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[clink]

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[siren wailing]

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[siren wailing]

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[Intercom] All right
you fuckers,

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you're forgetting this is
the end of the world.

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It's time to start
acting like it.

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It's happening right now.

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If you're masturbating,

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wrap it up.

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Make it a good one.

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It's the last masturbation
you'll ever have.

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[Susie] I actively don't plan
anything for after X Day.

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Been doing it since 96

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and it's like, yeah,

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if there's any chance,
I'm not going to

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screw it up by not buying
into this.

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- Okay folks, it's almost
quarter of seven

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in the morning July 5th, 1998.

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Friends, it's not about when
we get everything we want.

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What it's really about,
like every other religion,

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it's about for the non-believers
get what they deserve.

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No seriously, now and
I do mean seriously,

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you're going to get
whatever you want.

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The important thing is to
really know what you want.

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If your imagination is so
limited that all you can

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think of is a better version
of your crappy apartment,

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that's exactly what you'll get

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and it won't seem that
different after 7:00 AM.

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[Susie] Bob is teaching me
things about disappointment

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except the
disappointment in Bob

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is sweeter than the
disappointment in life.

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- Ten seconds.

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[Susie] Life's disappointments
are brutal,

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Bob's are part of a joke

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that once you finally get
over the butt hurt,

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you start laughing at it.

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[crowd] Two, one...

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- Fuck them if they
can't take a joke!

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[cheering]

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For 30 years, almost none
of us ever broke character.

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Fretten, sometimes the
character might take over.

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Once again, we find ourselves

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in that age-old
traditional situation,

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7:00 AM or something
like that.

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Something like July 5th,
something like 1998,

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something like the planet earth,

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we don't have any idea
where or when we are

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and that is the point
of the whole thing.

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X Day could happen any second.

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It may not happen this year.

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[cheering]

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There have been times when
we were so good at

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keeping a straight face,

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that we could have had
another Scientology.

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We love fooling people,

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but we don't want to
fool anybody that way.

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[Man] The young people
of our generation

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have no moral norm for
their actions today.

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They want somebody to
stand up and say,

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"What is right and
what is wrong?

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How far can I go?"

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- Nearly moment by moment,

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young people are bombarded by
distorted visual images

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that are saturating their minds

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and yes, sabotaging
their future.

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- In the early 80s we
were outliers,

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we were outside the norm.

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People who'd grown up in the
50s were just trying to

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come out of all of
the weird stuff

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that had been heaped on us.

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- Once a person is pervert,

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it is practically impossible
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to adjust to normal attitude.

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[Ivan Stang] The 60s were
still echoing,

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but it turned into the 80s

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and that whole spirit got
flipped on its head.

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[Man] You are being deceived.

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You're being brainwashed
every day by the devil.

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- Everything's getting
too square again.

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- The normalcy was
oppressive to me.

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- I grew up in a cultural
vacuum,

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a small conservative
Illinois town.

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- I kind of prided myself
on being the outsider

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in high school.

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You know, the guy
that's so weird,

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and no one would talk to him.

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[Commercial VO] There is a
conspiracy of unimaginable

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proportions working solely to
rob you of your very abnormality

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and I'm here to tell
you tonight...

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[Sternodox] The
Conspiracy is them.

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They're the ones that
want to hold us down.

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They're the ones in control.

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- People are always telling us
how to talk, how to walk.

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[Nurse Vicki] It was the
war of the weirdos

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against the straights.

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- To enjoy a feeling of
being with the in crowd

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is so seductive.

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[Commercial VO] Marion
was rejected today.

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If she felt accepted,

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the whole pattern of her life
would be different.

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- We were grasping for
this crazy religion

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to help us see the light.

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[Reporter] It's the
Church of the SubGenius,

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their prophet's name is Bob.

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- Bob Dobbs came to town
to set you free.

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- It was just this outpour of
expressing ourselves

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and how wrong we thought the
direction of society was.

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I thought it was hilarious.

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- We're probably the
only cult that admits

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that we're ripping them off
every day

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and teaching them to
enjoy it.

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[Commercial VO] There
must be discipline.

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- It's wrong.

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It's sin.

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- Just say no.

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- If Jim Jones could talk 900
people into killing themselves,

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we can talk 900 people
in the sending us dollar.

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[Commercial VO] There's only
one guaranteed way

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you can have peace.

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- The world will end the 1998.

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[Commercial VO] God said
judgment is going to come.

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[Commercial VO] Repent.

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Quit your job.

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Slack off.

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[Susie] The idea of being
able to get away

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from this shit stew
of a world--

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it's a dream.

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- For those who've
abandoned hope,

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we'll restore hope and we'll
welcome them into a

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great national crusade to
make America great again.

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[echoing VO] Great again,
great again, great again.

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- I grew up as a
little white boy

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in America in the 1950s
in a middle-class home,

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so I have nothing to
complain about.

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I feel like anybody who
grew up in that situation

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has it better than most
medieval kings

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because we had aspirin

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and some people had
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- I'm one of those
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fortunate to have like an
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My family was as normal
as they could get.

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I was forced to go to a
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for the first 18 years
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so that probably had some
effect on why I rebelled

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so strongly once I got
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- I can't say that I'm
rebelling against my

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religious upbringing or
anything like that

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because I didn't really
have one.

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I was raised basically
secular humanist scientist.

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This is Fort Worth, Texas.

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I was surrounded by Baptists.

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I really did feel like a weirdo.

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Kids would go,

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"Hey, Doug, where's you
family go to church?"

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I didn't even know the
name of a single church.

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I'd really be stuck.

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I'd say things like,
"Oh, the [mumbles]."

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[indistinct room chatter]

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[Philo] I was very much
into comic books

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and any kind of
alternate publications

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and music like Frank Zappa
and Captain Beefheart

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and people that were
not mainstream.

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[Ivan] I did not feel like
my classmates.

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Despite my very fun childhood,

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I had terrible teenage years.

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I had to hang around the
theater department

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in order to meet girls.

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That's how I met my
first wife, in fact.

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[Philo] I was discouraged
from participating in art.

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Art was not a place
where you can make money.

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You need to get a real type job.

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So I worked for AT&T

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and that's kind of like where my

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inside to The Conspiracy
took place.

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- My sister-in-law, she said,
"I have these friends

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"Philo and Cookie that I met
that you should meet them,

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they've just moved to Dallas."

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I said, "I don't want to
meet any friends.

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I don't need friends."

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Said, "No, you might
like this guy.

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He collects comic books and
he likes Captain Beefheart."

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I thought, what?!

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Both comic books and
Captain Beefheart?!

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[Philo] We just became
great friends.

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He was the liberal.

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I was the conservative,

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but we were both so
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We didn't believe
any of it was true.

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- What we really had in common
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well, what we might call
kook pamphlets

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or extremist literature of
religious or political cards.

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You'd go to a laundromat
and there would be

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The Watchtower from
Jehovah's Witnesses

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or a comic book from
Chick Publications.

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You know, "This Was Your Life".

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We loved the range of
ridiculous things

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that human beings can
convince themselves of.

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- If I went out and made
my daily quota,

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the first thing I'd do is go
over and wake up Reverend Stang

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and say, "Let's get up.

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"Let's go do something.

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Let's have some fun."

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- We were trolls before
they had that term.

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The internet hadn't been
invented, but CB radios had

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and Philo, because he had a
real job, had a CB radio...

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but we didn't use it to
help the world.

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We used it to puzzle
and confuse strangers.

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We would get on and
say things like,

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[alien-like] "Men of earth,
men of Earth,

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"we are speaking to you from
50 million light years

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away in space."

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- "Come in pink boy,"
remember?

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- Well there were these two
guys that were doing it

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back to us.

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They were trolling us
and they were saying,

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"Shut up pink boy,
shut up pink boy."

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And we interpreted that as,

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"Oh, the aliens are
finally talking to him.

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And that was what
they had to say."

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The next thing we knew,

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pink boys were everybody
we didn't like:

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bosses, rude waiters,
nasty clerks in stores.

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We were surrounded
by dumb asses.

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We knew that we were
dumb asses too,

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but we felt like it was
a matter of degrees.

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[Philo] People that we didn't
want to have anything

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to do with, the pinks
and the mediocritines,

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the techno glorps.

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[Stang] Part of me was in
terror of all of that,

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but there was also the terrible
stress of having to, you know,

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make the living and
not lose your soul.

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At some point, one of us
said something like,

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"Why aren't we rich yet?

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We've got all these
skills and things."

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And Philo goes, "Well, I guess
we're not geniuses.

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We're really just sub-geniuses."

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And in my head, everything fell
together like a puzzle box.

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A Rubik's Cube suddenly formed
itself.

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A weird fringe cult for weirdos,

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specifically for weirdos.

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That was the Church
of the SubGenius.

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[Philo] When we did the
first pamphlet,

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it was really a labor of love.

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The pasting up, the cutting.

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[Stang] We tied together
every fringe belief

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you could think of.

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It was like getting all your
toys, your dinosaur toys,

251
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and your army men toys and
your cowboy and Indian toys,

252
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putting them all together
on the floor

253
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and having this whole world
that was a conglomerate

254
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of all the cool stuff ever.

255
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It was so much fun!

256
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[Philo] We had this sort of an
icon we can blame everything on,

257
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the conspiracy of normalcy.

258
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[Stang] There's Bob,
The Conspiracy and Slack.

259
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If you're going to have a cult,

260
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you have to have a cult leader.

261
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Well, that's Bob.

262
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- We need to put a face
to that entity.

263
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- We can't afford artwork.

264
00:13:16,657 --> 00:13:19,902
No, this clip art,
this public domain stuff.

265
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It's old, nobody cares about it.

266
00:13:21,870 --> 00:13:24,079
- As we flip through
the catalog,

267
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there was that face.

268
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[Stang] We both instantly knew,
that's Bob.

269
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After a couple of months,
we had assembled

270
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SubGenius pamphlet number one.

271
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- When the printing bill came
in on the first pamphlet,

272
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it was $60.

273
00:13:48,931 --> 00:13:51,865
My wife got very
upset with that.

274
00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:54,074
You're going to have to
send these to publishers.

275
00:13:54,109 --> 00:13:55,248
We can't afford
that kind of thing.

276
00:13:55,282 --> 00:13:58,113
You need to try to turn it
into a book or something.

277
00:13:58,147 --> 00:14:00,356
Publishers, wow, okay.

278
00:14:00,391 --> 00:14:04,153
I got Writer's Digest and got
the addresses of every publisher

279
00:14:04,188 --> 00:14:07,294
in the United States and
mailed the pamphlet to them.

280
00:14:11,022 --> 00:14:13,507
We've got 150 rejection
slips back.

281
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The rest of them
didn't say anything.

282
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- I was living in San Francisco,

283
00:14:27,452 --> 00:14:30,214
working with my
colleague partner,

284
00:14:30,248 --> 00:14:32,941
Gilbert Shelton at
Rip Off Press.

285
00:14:32,975 --> 00:14:37,531
I wandered into the publisher's
office, and a fellow named Fred,

286
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and he opened some envelope up

287
00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:43,917
and pulled out the
initial pamphlet.

288
00:14:43,952 --> 00:14:46,437
He grumbled something about it

289
00:14:46,471 --> 00:14:50,061
and threw it in the trash can
next to his desk.

290
00:14:50,751 --> 00:14:53,030
To his complete irritation,

291
00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:56,481
I pulled it out and
started laughing at it.

292
00:14:57,103 --> 00:14:59,070
It was the funniest
thing I've ever read.

293
00:14:59,105 --> 00:15:01,521
It was good to, like--
how refreshing.

294
00:15:01,555 --> 00:15:05,283
I think my first act was
to get an envelope

295
00:15:05,318 --> 00:15:08,148
and put all the cash
I had in my wallet

296
00:15:08,183 --> 00:15:12,187
and it wrote a note saying,
"Send me more pamphlets."

297
00:15:16,122 --> 00:15:18,434
- The first pamphlet,
pamphlet number one,

298
00:15:18,469 --> 00:15:22,128
is a significant document
in many ways.

299
00:15:22,162 --> 00:15:26,408
It is the vector by which many
people have had their

300
00:15:26,442 --> 00:15:30,515
most significant introduction to
the Church of the SubGenius.

301
00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:32,690
- Doug sent a pamphlet to KPFA

302
00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:36,383
and so I saw that and really
loved it and for years,

303
00:15:36,418 --> 00:15:37,488
since I was a kid,

304
00:15:37,522 --> 00:15:39,490
I've been putting stuff
in the mail to strangers,

305
00:15:39,524 --> 00:15:41,319
so they became new strangers.

306
00:15:41,354 --> 00:15:43,252
They start mailing stuff back.

307
00:15:43,287 --> 00:15:45,047
It was like the internet really,

308
00:15:45,082 --> 00:15:46,669
but instead of a
thousand people,

309
00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:49,327
it was 10 or 15 of us.

310
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It was really fun.

311
00:15:50,259 --> 00:15:53,297
- It was such a seminal
little pamphlet;

312
00:15:53,331 --> 00:15:57,025
it was almost like a
test of your mindset

313
00:15:57,059 --> 00:15:59,061
like were you a SubGenius
or not?

314
00:15:59,096 --> 00:16:01,961
If you got it, you
were a SubGenius.

315
00:16:02,202 --> 00:16:03,583
[Nurse Kelly] It really
spoke to me.

316
00:16:03,617 --> 00:16:06,413
It had this whole thing about
how the goal is Slack

317
00:16:06,448 --> 00:16:10,072
and the motto is fuck them
if they can't take a joke.

318
00:16:10,107 --> 00:16:13,765
- The central doctrine more
than anything else

319
00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,422
in the Church of SubGenius
of course,

320
00:16:15,457 --> 00:16:17,355
is this Slack thing.

321
00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:19,012
- It's probably one of the
hardest things to

322
00:16:19,047 --> 00:16:20,634
describe in the church,
you know.

323
00:16:20,669 --> 00:16:23,775
- We don't describe it
because by definition

324
00:16:23,810 --> 00:16:26,261
Slack is really different
for each person.

325
00:16:26,295 --> 00:16:28,125
[Margaret] Slack is what
everybody wants,

326
00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:29,367
it's what we still want.

327
00:16:29,402 --> 00:16:33,371
[Nurse Kelly] This idea of a
place where people can live

328
00:16:33,406 --> 00:16:37,237
where they don't feel harried
by just the multiple things

329
00:16:37,272 --> 00:16:39,136
that one feels harried
by all the time.

330
00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:41,069
- You know when you
don't have it.

331
00:16:41,103 --> 00:16:42,139
- That's for sure.

332
00:16:42,173 --> 00:16:44,486
[Paul] It was like finding
like-minded people.

333
00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,111
If you could truly say any
of us had minds to be alike.

334
00:16:49,146 --> 00:16:53,633
Somebody with the same type
of cynical perspective,

335
00:16:53,667 --> 00:16:55,669
same reference points.

336
00:16:55,704 --> 00:16:58,155
[Margaret] They were so
layered in everything.

337
00:16:58,189 --> 00:17:02,780
It was, it was part pop culture,
part science, part religion.

338
00:17:02,814 --> 00:17:04,471
So it appealed to me
a great deal

339
00:17:04,506 --> 00:17:07,509
and I did do just as it said,

340
00:17:07,543 --> 00:17:09,752
I sent a dollar with
the letter.

341
00:17:09,787 --> 00:17:10,684
- What's that say?

342
00:17:10,719 --> 00:17:12,548
Send a dollar?

343
00:17:12,583 --> 00:17:14,136
Even I've got a dollar.

344
00:17:14,171 --> 00:17:17,277
So I sent off a dollar and I got
this little pamphlet

345
00:17:17,312 --> 00:17:19,624
and that was where the
crushing loneliness started

346
00:17:19,659 --> 00:17:21,281
to get chipped away.

347
00:17:21,316 --> 00:17:25,216
- I was doing a magazine called
Famous Potatoes

348
00:17:25,251 --> 00:17:28,564
using a lot of ads
and clip art stuff

349
00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:31,705
and it was a fine artist,
Robert Williams who said,

350
00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:34,294
"Hey, you ought to send
some stuff off to the

351
00:17:34,329 --> 00:17:35,433
Church of the SubGenius.

352
00:17:35,468 --> 00:17:40,128
They're doing a bunch of
clip art stuff like you do."

353
00:17:40,162 --> 00:17:42,509
So I sent stuff off
and I think it arrived

354
00:17:42,544 --> 00:17:44,477
just after Stang's birthday
or something,

355
00:17:44,511 --> 00:17:47,307
and he just flipped out
over the Famous Potatoes

356
00:17:47,342 --> 00:17:52,416
and he sent me all the pack
and I didn't have to pay.

357
00:17:52,864 --> 00:17:55,764
- There was a flyer on a
phone pole that said,

358
00:17:55,798 --> 00:17:58,422
"Get ready for a pretty
tough future,

359
00:17:58,456 --> 00:18:00,665
what scientists are
afraid to tell us."

360
00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:03,116
And then there was a
picture of Bob.

361
00:18:03,151 --> 00:18:04,393
I showed it to all my pals

362
00:18:04,428 --> 00:18:06,188
and they were like,
"yeah, yeah."

363
00:18:06,223 --> 00:18:07,258
So we didn't send them a dollar,

364
00:18:07,293 --> 00:18:10,158
we sent him $100
from Little Rock

365
00:18:10,192 --> 00:18:12,436
and we got the first
pamphlet back.

366
00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:15,301
That just Bobbed us
all up immediately.

367
00:18:15,335 --> 00:18:18,476
- It was a little bit of a
sense that there are

368
00:18:18,511 --> 00:18:21,203
other people interested
in these things.

369
00:18:21,238 --> 00:18:22,515
They might be far away

370
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:26,346
and they might exist from post
office box to post office box,

371
00:18:26,381 --> 00:18:27,761
but they are out there.

372
00:18:29,073 --> 00:18:31,213
[Susie] It was intoxicating to
think that there was somewhere

373
00:18:31,248 --> 00:18:32,904
where you didn't have to fit in,

374
00:18:32,939 --> 00:18:36,908
where people were crazy
in the good way.

375
00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:42,397
So I sent in my 10 bucks
and I became a SubGenius.

376
00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:46,194
[Philo] We got the first few
orders coming in,

377
00:18:46,228 --> 00:18:48,782
remember we were so excited
and then all of a sudden-

378
00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:50,370
- Terrified more like it
was like, what?

379
00:18:50,405 --> 00:18:52,234
Somebody actually sent us $10,

380
00:18:52,269 --> 00:18:53,787
now we really have to
do that newsletter.

381
00:18:53,822 --> 00:18:55,651
- Now we actually had
to start working

382
00:18:55,686 --> 00:18:57,377
and doing stuff.

383
00:18:57,688 --> 00:18:58,689
- Hey Reverend Stang?

384
00:18:58,723 --> 00:18:59,586
[Stang] Huh?

385
00:18:59,621 --> 00:19:01,347
- Another gun.

386
00:19:01,381 --> 00:19:03,280
- We said, you've got
a religion,

387
00:19:03,314 --> 00:19:04,936
now you've got to have
the tent revivals.

388
00:19:04,971 --> 00:19:07,318
You know, you can't just
say you have religion.

389
00:19:07,353 --> 00:19:09,631
You have to have this
gathering of the faithful.

390
00:19:09,665 --> 00:19:12,392
- It was a sad day
for mankind.

391
00:19:12,427 --> 00:19:16,189
It was a sad day for mankind
when man stopped,

392
00:19:16,224 --> 00:19:19,675
started sticking with his head
and walking on his feet,

393
00:19:19,710 --> 00:19:21,781
the kind with four-legged
backup.

394
00:19:21,815 --> 00:19:23,438
Awww, yeah,

395
00:19:23,472 --> 00:19:24,956
I can feel it emanating.

396
00:19:24,991 --> 00:19:27,511
I can feel its eyes just
burning into my eye.

397
00:19:27,545 --> 00:19:30,410
I can feel a man staring at me
and screaming at me

398
00:19:30,445 --> 00:19:32,240
and threaten his eyebrows.

399
00:19:32,274 --> 00:19:36,278
I can feel that man saying
he wants to testify to Bob.

400
00:19:36,865 --> 00:19:39,902
[Philo] A devival is a
SubGenius revival.

401
00:19:41,766 --> 00:19:44,666
It didn't sound good
to say revival.

402
00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:46,392
Devival sounds a lot better.

403
00:19:46,426 --> 00:19:48,739
It actually sounds
kind of like devil.

404
00:19:49,878 --> 00:19:53,295
[Stang] They were a way for
us to act as if we were

405
00:19:53,330 --> 00:19:56,643
rock and roll stars or
preachers or something.

406
00:19:57,265 --> 00:20:00,268
- Thank you Bob,

407
00:20:00,302 --> 00:20:02,684
♪ for closing my memory.

408
00:20:02,718 --> 00:20:04,720
[Stang] I was the one who was
supposed to get up on stage

409
00:20:04,755 --> 00:20:07,551
and do stuff and I actually
had terrible stage fright.

410
00:20:07,585 --> 00:20:09,725
I wasn't interested
in that at all.

411
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,247
But a Dallas character who
later ended up calling himself

412
00:20:14,282 --> 00:20:15,662
Reverend Buck Nakid,

413
00:20:15,697 --> 00:20:18,355
the SubGenius thing really
clicked with him.

414
00:20:18,389 --> 00:20:22,497
- The word crime is serving
the conspiracy and the penalty.

415
00:20:23,049 --> 00:20:24,153
And the penalty...

416
00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:26,708
[Stang] He was ready to
get up on stage and preach.

417
00:20:26,742 --> 00:20:30,505
- The penalty is worse than
having your gonads cut off.

418
00:20:30,884 --> 00:20:33,680
The penalty is worse than
having your head cut off.

419
00:20:33,715 --> 00:20:35,544
[Stang] Eventfully, I didn't
really like the way

420
00:20:35,579 --> 00:20:36,856
Buck did it.

421
00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:38,064
- And the rest of them are wrong

422
00:20:38,098 --> 00:20:38,961
and you're only one
that's right.

423
00:20:38,996 --> 00:20:40,515
That's how you're
supposed to feel-

424
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:42,344
- So I started doing it.

425
00:20:42,379 --> 00:20:43,656
Before we start the services,

426
00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:46,900
we should have a

427
00:20:46,935 --> 00:20:49,040
just a moment of,

428
00:20:49,075 --> 00:20:50,525
a moment of sacred noise.

429
00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:54,770
[screaming]

430
00:20:54,805 --> 00:20:59,672
Thanks to the SubGenius thing,
I discovered I wasn't alone.

431
00:21:00,535 --> 00:21:02,985
There were weirdos
all over the place.

432
00:21:11,131 --> 00:21:13,444
[Margaret] They were very
normal people who just talked

433
00:21:13,479 --> 00:21:15,653
nutty stuff about the
Church of the SubGenius,

434
00:21:15,688 --> 00:21:19,381
which made them very
easy to relate to

435
00:21:19,416 --> 00:21:21,038
and get along with.

436
00:21:22,971 --> 00:21:25,387
[Byron] I remember seeing
all these bands and stuff

437
00:21:25,422 --> 00:21:26,768
and I thought, you know,

438
00:21:26,802 --> 00:21:30,012
These guys are loaded,
these guys are drunk.

439
00:21:30,047 --> 00:21:32,981
Then I saw Doctors for Bob
perform

440
00:21:33,015 --> 00:21:36,812
and I thought these guys are
clinically insane.

441
00:21:39,988 --> 00:21:44,958
- Anti-music is a concept of
unfettered expression

442
00:21:44,993 --> 00:21:48,686
musically and sonically to
try to create this sound that

443
00:21:48,721 --> 00:21:51,620
trained hands can't do.

444
00:21:52,518 --> 00:21:54,416
You have to go totally
on instinct

445
00:21:54,451 --> 00:21:57,074
and that's what we did
with Doctors for Bob.

446
00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:00,836
- It was kind of this
Looney Tunes fraternity

447
00:22:00,871 --> 00:22:05,047
and you had to kind of enjoy
guys to be a part of it.

448
00:22:05,082 --> 00:22:07,498
The way that I viewed the
Church and the SubGenius

449
00:22:07,533 --> 00:22:11,157
is that in a way it is the
patriarchy strained

450
00:22:11,191 --> 00:22:12,883
through cheese cloth.

451
00:22:13,573 --> 00:22:17,405
- It was a boy's club and
I was attracted to it

452
00:22:17,439 --> 00:22:19,061
because I wanted
to meet the boys.

453
00:22:19,096 --> 00:22:22,064
- It is divinely taking
itself by the hair

454
00:22:22,099 --> 00:22:24,722
and turning itself inside out

455
00:22:24,757 --> 00:22:27,449
and looking at the world
with fresh eyes

456
00:22:27,484 --> 00:22:29,140
and that's why it's
such a special place

457
00:22:29,175 --> 00:22:30,866
for special people doing
special things

458
00:22:30,901 --> 00:22:33,938
having special feelings and
we have to put up with.

459
00:22:33,973 --> 00:22:37,666
[cheers and applause]

460
00:22:37,701 --> 00:22:40,669
I think it was this way of
saying it's them and not you,

461
00:22:40,704 --> 00:22:41,705
you know.

462
00:22:41,739 --> 00:22:43,465
Don't you worry if the
world or The Conspiracy

463
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:45,743
is getting you down,
you come stand by me

464
00:22:45,778 --> 00:22:47,607
cause you're one of ours.

465
00:22:47,642 --> 00:22:49,885
- The Conspiracy's major
efforts is to take your

466
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,476
Slack away and to sell you
a false version of it,

467
00:22:54,511 --> 00:22:55,857
which they manufacture.

468
00:22:55,891 --> 00:22:58,446
- Well, I'm afraid we all
discovered The Conspiracy

469
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,034
probably our first day of school

470
00:23:01,069 --> 00:23:02,898
when the other kids
made fun of you

471
00:23:02,933 --> 00:23:05,798
for using the wrong
color crayon

472
00:23:05,832 --> 00:23:07,489
or you're not doing it right.

473
00:23:07,524 --> 00:23:09,836
- It was important that
we encapsulate

474
00:23:09,871 --> 00:23:14,634
everybody's best enemy into
something that could be

475
00:23:14,669 --> 00:23:18,155
easily distilled
into one thing.

476
00:23:18,189 --> 00:23:20,191
Something that people could say,

477
00:23:20,226 --> 00:23:24,541
"Yeah, I understand that,
we're all victims of that."

478
00:23:24,817 --> 00:23:28,199
- Anything that bothers you
is the Conspiracy.

479
00:23:28,234 --> 00:23:31,064
It's a little bit, the thing
that assassinates presidents

480
00:23:31,099 --> 00:23:33,204
from both depository libraries.

481
00:23:33,239 --> 00:23:36,173
It's a little bit the
suppressed saucer technology

482
00:23:36,207 --> 00:23:39,659
that is owned by the
European union,

483
00:23:39,694 --> 00:23:43,422
but it's also just when it's
too hot on the bus.

484
00:23:44,837 --> 00:23:49,704
- In 1953, Jehovah I,
the alien space god

485
00:23:49,738 --> 00:23:52,845
informed Bob Dobbs that

486
00:23:52,879 --> 00:23:56,089
there was this conspiracy
of normal people

487
00:23:56,124 --> 00:23:59,472
robbing the Slack of the
SubGeniuses for centuries.

488
00:23:59,507 --> 00:24:05,029
But that on July 5th, 1998
at precisely 7:00 AM,

489
00:24:05,064 --> 00:24:09,068
the men from planet X would
come rupture up to these

490
00:24:09,102 --> 00:24:11,726
paying believing SubGeniuses

491
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,902
and give them the power to wreak
revenge on all the normals.

492
00:24:16,593 --> 00:24:18,526
Next thing you know,
you've got the doctrine

493
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,735
for an entire religion.

494
00:24:20,769 --> 00:24:21,874
Oh yes.

495
00:24:21,908 --> 00:24:24,670
Bob can set free the winos.

496
00:24:24,704 --> 00:24:26,948
He can set free the prisoners.

497
00:24:26,982 --> 00:24:29,847
Do we have any more testimonials
from the crowd?

498
00:24:30,572 --> 00:24:33,506
- I found the image of
Bob's head in a bed pan

499
00:24:33,541 --> 00:24:36,716
and ever since it's just
been Bob all the way.

500
00:24:36,751 --> 00:24:38,891
- Saved by the image of
Bob in a bed pan.

501
00:24:38,925 --> 00:24:42,584
Our tendency is to just
let everybody throw in,

502
00:24:42,619 --> 00:24:45,207
so we don't really
have any rules.

503
00:24:45,242 --> 00:24:50,730
- I was once a degenerate
but Bob saved me.

504
00:24:51,041 --> 00:24:52,145
- Amen.

505
00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:53,181
Amen!

506
00:24:53,215 --> 00:24:56,218
We encourage people to
form their own schism.

507
00:24:56,253 --> 00:24:58,635
You know, join the church
and send us money,

508
00:24:58,669 --> 00:25:00,326
but immediately rebel
against it.

509
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,121
- Well, there's always a
split in the church

510
00:25:02,155 --> 00:25:04,123
and if there wasn't,
we'd create some

511
00:25:04,157 --> 00:25:07,989
because you can't have a
church without schisms

512
00:25:08,023 --> 00:25:11,648
and the more schisms in a cult,
the better.

513
00:25:12,787 --> 00:25:15,306
- Ladies and gentlemen, I think
we need to inject this

514
00:25:15,341 --> 00:25:17,550
campground with some real hate.

515
00:25:17,585 --> 00:25:18,896
[cheers]

516
00:25:18,931 --> 00:25:23,625
I would like to bring to you
the great Papa Joe Mama.

517
00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:26,041
[cheers]

518
00:25:26,076 --> 00:25:28,941
[Joe Mama] One of the major
magnets of religion

519
00:25:28,975 --> 00:25:30,874
isn't the common
love of something,

520
00:25:30,908 --> 00:25:32,289
it's the common
hatred of something.

521
00:25:32,323 --> 00:25:34,291
That's what brings
everybody together.

522
00:25:34,325 --> 00:25:38,916
So, I just wanted to offer
that sort of alter ego,

523
00:25:38,951 --> 00:25:40,746
the sort of anti-Bob,
if you will,

524
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:42,057
and the Church of the SubGenius.

525
00:25:42,092 --> 00:25:46,199
There are two distinct branches
in the Church of the SubGenius,

526
00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:50,031
the highbrow,
Ivangelical branch,

527
00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:53,379
led by Ivan Stang and his
philosophical followers.

528
00:25:53,413 --> 00:25:56,071
[Stang] Some of the SubGeniuses
were looking at me

529
00:25:56,106 --> 00:25:57,625
as kind of the do-gooder.

530
00:25:57,659 --> 00:26:00,006
I was a little too
easy on the normals.

531
00:26:00,041 --> 00:26:02,768
I didn't really want to
destroy the whole world.

532
00:26:02,802 --> 00:26:06,737
I just wanted to loot it, get
all the good comic books.

533
00:26:06,772 --> 00:26:09,671
Well, other people really
do hate the normals.

534
00:26:09,706 --> 00:26:11,880
- The Ivangelicals and
the Holocaustals represent

535
00:26:11,915 --> 00:26:12,985
two sides of the church.

536
00:26:13,019 --> 00:26:15,815
Now the Ivangelicals
believed that all the pinks

537
00:26:15,850 --> 00:26:19,198
need to be enslaved and
can still serve a purpose

538
00:26:19,232 --> 00:26:22,995
after the final judgment in
which earth is liberated

539
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:26,861
from the chains of pink
and conspiracy rule.

540
00:26:27,137 --> 00:26:28,966
Now the Holocaustals,
we're kind of a more

541
00:26:29,001 --> 00:26:31,624
traditional fundamentalist
if you will.

542
00:26:31,659 --> 00:26:35,110
We believe that you do need to
eliminate and exterminate

543
00:26:35,145 --> 00:26:36,595
all the normals.

544
00:26:37,147 --> 00:26:39,252
- Not every one of the
Churches of the SubGenius

545
00:26:39,287 --> 00:26:42,704
gets along with one another
cause it's the group for people

546
00:26:42,739 --> 00:26:44,982
who can't join groups.

547
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,330
I've often tried to
explain to people about

548
00:26:48,365 --> 00:26:49,435
Church of the SubGenius,

549
00:26:49,469 --> 00:26:52,369
these can be very smart,
talented people,

550
00:26:52,403 --> 00:26:56,994
but somewhere along line they've
got a personality problem

551
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:59,445
that keeps them from
joining in and being

552
00:26:59,479 --> 00:27:01,447
sociable and

553
00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:03,898
popular and

554
00:27:03,932 --> 00:27:04,864
normal.

555
00:27:06,314 --> 00:27:09,179
[radio distortion]

556
00:27:09,213 --> 00:27:11,284
[Woman on tape] I like
go to the lake.

557
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,873
I like to roller-skate
and go walking around.

558
00:27:13,908 --> 00:27:16,358
Um, I like to do-

559
00:27:16,393 --> 00:27:19,016
- This character named
Doug Wellman

560
00:27:19,051 --> 00:27:21,847
using the handle
Puzzling Evidence,

561
00:27:21,881 --> 00:27:27,128
he was way ahead of us in
collaging found sound.

562
00:27:27,162 --> 00:27:32,823
[indistinct distorted noise]

563
00:27:32,858 --> 00:27:36,137
[Paul] Doug Wellman had been
making these audio collage tapes

564
00:27:36,171 --> 00:27:39,934
with sound effects
and improvised,

565
00:27:39,968 --> 00:27:41,452
humor as it were.

566
00:27:41,487 --> 00:27:43,385
- It was like a network of
people that traded

567
00:27:43,420 --> 00:27:44,421
cassette tapes.

568
00:27:44,455 --> 00:27:46,768
- You'd get the tape and
you'd listen to the tape

569
00:27:46,803 --> 00:27:49,737
and you'd immediately start a
tape back to the friend

570
00:27:49,771 --> 00:27:51,911
and it was just such a
great way to communicate.

571
00:27:51,946 --> 00:27:55,087
[CoSG tape] Wouldn't you like
revenge on these mediocritines,

572
00:27:55,121 --> 00:27:56,467
these pink boys,

573
00:27:56,502 --> 00:28:00,368
these normals who have made
normality the norm?

574
00:28:02,266 --> 00:28:04,786
- Doug was in Berkeley and
I was in San Francisco

575
00:28:04,821 --> 00:28:09,308
and we turned on KPFA and
heard ourselves on the radio,

576
00:28:09,342 --> 00:28:11,793
which was a little moment
of discontinuity

577
00:28:11,828 --> 00:28:14,140
because how could we be on
the radio when we were

578
00:28:14,175 --> 00:28:15,935
here listening to it

579
00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:19,387
and it turned out this fellow
had gotten a hold of one of

580
00:28:19,421 --> 00:28:24,047
Doug's tapes and was just
filling his show out with them.

581
00:28:24,081 --> 00:28:28,879
We contacted him and invited
ourself onto his show

582
00:28:28,914 --> 00:28:32,952
and at some point that
became our Slack,

583
00:28:32,987 --> 00:28:35,990
which, you know, was a great
name because the show

584
00:28:36,024 --> 00:28:38,337
is actually 90 minutes long.

585
00:28:38,855 --> 00:28:43,307
[CoSG Radio] Welcome to the
SubGenius Radio Ministry

586
00:28:43,342 --> 00:28:45,965
Hour of Slack.

587
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,554
- This gave us a body
of cassette tapes

588
00:28:48,588 --> 00:28:52,178
that made us sound a little more
developed than we really were.

589
00:28:52,213 --> 00:28:54,525
[Paul] Nobody had met each
other to that point.

590
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,770
No real events or anything.

591
00:28:57,805 --> 00:29:01,187
It was all just a
mail media network.

592
00:29:01,463 --> 00:29:04,259
There were finally enough people
who were curious about

593
00:29:04,294 --> 00:29:07,953
each other and becoming actual
friends that we wanted to meet,

594
00:29:07,987 --> 00:29:12,405
so we decided we were going to
have a convention in Dallas.

595
00:29:16,202 --> 00:29:18,549
- Have you ever wondered
about your neighbors?

596
00:29:18,584 --> 00:29:21,173
Maybe wondered about the
weird thumps and bumps

597
00:29:21,207 --> 00:29:23,796
or chants emanating from
their apartment?

598
00:29:23,831 --> 00:29:27,110
They may be followers of Bob,
that's the fastest growing cult

599
00:29:27,144 --> 00:29:28,318
here in the Southwest.

600
00:29:28,352 --> 00:29:31,183
[Stang] Somehow or another,
Channel 4 News

601
00:29:31,217 --> 00:29:34,289
got wind of this
SubGenius thing.

602
00:29:35,014 --> 00:29:38,190
[Paul] Ivan was really
resistant at first.

603
00:29:39,018 --> 00:29:40,917
[Stang] I was married
to a schoolteacher.

604
00:29:40,951 --> 00:29:44,023
We didn't want to get my wife
in trouble or get Philo fired,

605
00:29:44,058 --> 00:29:46,888
plus Philo's parents didn't
know anything about this

606
00:29:46,923 --> 00:29:48,027
whole SubGenius thing.

607
00:29:48,062 --> 00:29:49,373
They were very religious.

608
00:29:49,408 --> 00:29:51,513
- I didn't ever want to do
anything that was

609
00:29:51,548 --> 00:29:54,033
going to embarrass
them in public.

610
00:29:54,068 --> 00:29:57,174
Even though I had this really
strong need to rebel,

611
00:29:57,209 --> 00:29:59,073
I wanted to kind of
do it privately.

612
00:29:59,107 --> 00:30:03,974
The church is so omni-pervasive
that we couldn't possibly

613
00:30:04,009 --> 00:30:07,598
get into the dogma in any less
than three or four hours.

614
00:30:07,633 --> 00:30:10,981
I thought maybe a secret
identity is a good thing.

615
00:30:11,499 --> 00:30:13,259
[News Anchor] It's the
Church of the SubGenius

616
00:30:13,294 --> 00:30:15,054
and they're holding a revival.

617
00:30:15,089 --> 00:30:17,850
- My name is Sternodox
from Little Rock, Arkansas.

618
00:30:17,885 --> 00:30:21,198
This is Puzzling Evidence
representative Doug Wellman

619
00:30:21,233 --> 00:30:23,442
from, Oakland, California.

620
00:30:23,476 --> 00:30:26,238
- I'm Paul Mavrides from the
LIES foundation

621
00:30:26,272 --> 00:30:27,653
in San Francisco, California.

622
00:30:27,687 --> 00:30:29,586
- Deep in the heart of
San Francisco.

623
00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:32,071
[Stang] People came from
all over the country.

624
00:30:32,106 --> 00:30:35,212
- I'm from Houston and I came
to learn more about Bob.

625
00:30:35,247 --> 00:30:38,077
- Bob is like a super salesman.

626
00:30:38,112 --> 00:30:40,355
- He can sell you anything
and I bought it.

627
00:30:40,390 --> 00:30:42,633
- I just kept hearing the word
Bob, Bob, Bob.

628
00:30:42,668 --> 00:30:44,497
It would wake me up in
the middle of the night.

629
00:30:44,532 --> 00:30:45,671
I'd wake up doing jumping jacks.

630
00:30:45,705 --> 00:30:47,190
I wouldn't know why.

631
00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:49,468
- Devo was in town

632
00:30:49,502 --> 00:30:52,091
and Mark Mothersbaugh came by.

633
00:30:52,126 --> 00:30:54,576
- It was only by chance that
I started receiving mail

634
00:30:54,611 --> 00:30:57,372
from the SubGenius Foundation

635
00:30:57,407 --> 00:30:59,961
and I realized who Bob was.

636
00:30:59,996 --> 00:31:03,033
- Two of the guys from Devo
are at the convention.

637
00:31:03,068 --> 00:31:05,518
I thought this is really cool.

638
00:31:05,553 --> 00:31:10,040
- Everything was completely
like a parallel universe

639
00:31:10,075 --> 00:31:12,594
to what Devo had been
doing back in Akron

640
00:31:12,629 --> 00:31:15,149
and now was trying to foist
upon the world.

641
00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:20,671
This was big time major,
grade A proof positive

642
00:31:20,706 --> 00:31:22,570
that it had been going
on somewhere else.

643
00:31:23,226 --> 00:31:26,539
- There's a good Bob and
there is a bad Bob.

644
00:31:26,574 --> 00:31:29,991
There's a big tall Bob and
there's a little short Bob.

645
00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:32,545
There's a kitchen Bob
and a living room Bob...

646
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:34,409
[crosstalk]

647
00:31:34,444 --> 00:31:36,549
[Reporter] And where is
Bob leading them?

648
00:31:36,584 --> 00:31:39,725
- When you first look at it,
some people go, "Oh, I get it.

649
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,556
This is a takeoff on weird
cults and conspiracies."

650
00:31:43,591 --> 00:31:45,420
Then they look a
little bit deeper

651
00:31:45,455 --> 00:31:48,458
and if they're really an
attuned sort of person,

652
00:31:48,492 --> 00:31:50,391
then they realize,
"Oh, I get it.

653
00:31:50,425 --> 00:31:54,153
This really is a weird cult
with cosmic wisdom and dogma

654
00:31:54,188 --> 00:31:56,155
that I've been needing
all my life,"

655
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:59,952
and that's usually when they
write their first check.

656
00:31:59,987 --> 00:32:02,437
- Kelly Lane, Channel 4 News,
Dallas.

657
00:32:02,472 --> 00:32:05,199
- As the song says, different
strokes for different folks.

658
00:32:05,233 --> 00:32:08,029
- Doug's been standing out in
the sun too long, I think.

659
00:32:08,064 --> 00:32:09,272
[laughing]

660
00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:11,584
- I lost my ass on that.

661
00:32:11,619 --> 00:32:14,622
It was disastrous
for me personally,

662
00:32:14,656 --> 00:32:18,177
it hurt my job

663
00:32:18,212 --> 00:32:21,663
and probably my marriage.

664
00:32:23,355 --> 00:32:26,772
[Philo] He was struggling
to make money

665
00:32:26,806 --> 00:32:30,776
and I have to admit for me that
was probably the time in my life

666
00:32:30,810 --> 00:32:35,091
when I had the least amount
of trouble earning an income.

667
00:32:36,023 --> 00:32:39,612
- I was in the perfect position
of being desperate enough

668
00:32:39,647 --> 00:32:43,547
to do low budget promotion
for a weird cult.

669
00:32:43,582 --> 00:32:45,756
[Philo] Stark Fist...

670
00:32:45,791 --> 00:32:47,966
7,000 of them.

671
00:32:48,518 --> 00:32:50,209
That's a lot of weird shit.

672
00:32:50,244 --> 00:32:51,176
- It certainly is.

673
00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:53,350
- I kicked in a few bucks
now and then,

674
00:32:53,385 --> 00:32:57,251
for the most part he was the guy
that was shelling out his money.

675
00:32:57,665 --> 00:33:00,081
- Now you should make a film
about slave labor

676
00:33:00,116 --> 00:33:01,220
in the SubGenius church.

677
00:33:01,255 --> 00:33:02,221
- That's what I'm doing.

678
00:33:02,256 --> 00:33:03,257
- Yeah.

679
00:33:03,291 --> 00:33:06,605
- I was kidnapped in my
native country of Africa

680
00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:08,503
walking down the street

681
00:33:08,538 --> 00:33:11,403
and these five people
came up and told me to

682
00:33:11,437 --> 00:33:15,096
get over here to American and
fold these damn envelope.

683
00:33:16,235 --> 00:33:19,445
- It was like a carrot was being
dangled in front of me

684
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,551
personally all the time.

685
00:33:21,585 --> 00:33:23,277
This thing could be big.

686
00:33:24,795 --> 00:33:26,763
- We were aware that
we were sort of

687
00:33:26,797 --> 00:33:28,178
influencing other of the people.

688
00:33:28,213 --> 00:33:29,317
That was exciting.

689
00:33:29,352 --> 00:33:31,043
You didn't know who, but you
could kind of tell other

690
00:33:31,078 --> 00:33:34,115
people were like, "What's that
Bob thing you're doing?"

691
00:33:35,737 --> 00:33:37,670
[Linklater] I kind of wish I
had found the Church of the

692
00:33:37,705 --> 00:33:41,536
SubGenius when I was a teenager
living in East Texas,

693
00:33:41,571 --> 00:33:44,056
a little town where
the state prison was

694
00:33:44,091 --> 00:33:46,852
and it was nothing but
Baptist churches everywhere,

695
00:33:46,886 --> 00:33:48,267
which my family didn't go to.

696
00:33:48,302 --> 00:33:51,063
So we were sort of the oddballs.

697
00:33:51,788 --> 00:33:53,755
- What do you do to
earn a living?

698
00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:55,550
- You mean work?

699
00:33:55,585 --> 00:33:58,553
To hell with the kind of work
you have to do to earn a living.

700
00:33:58,588 --> 00:34:00,348
All that does is fill the
bellies of the pigs

701
00:34:00,383 --> 00:34:02,281
who exploit us.

702
00:34:02,316 --> 00:34:03,179
- They look at you and say,

703
00:34:03,213 --> 00:34:04,559
"Oh, you're not getting
anything done.

704
00:34:04,594 --> 00:34:06,285
"You're a bum.

705
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,355
"You're a slacker.

706
00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:09,737
You're disengaged,"

707
00:34:09,771 --> 00:34:12,636
all the put downs that
people throw at people

708
00:34:12,671 --> 00:34:14,811
who seem to be living
their own lives,

709
00:34:14,845 --> 00:34:18,539
who kind of following
their own passions.

710
00:34:19,126 --> 00:34:20,092
[Interviewer] What is this?

711
00:34:20,127 --> 00:34:24,165
Some kind of a psychic
TV type parallel...

712
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,377
- Well, we all know the psychic
powers of the televised image,

713
00:34:29,412 --> 00:34:32,622
but we need to
capitalize on it

714
00:34:32,656 --> 00:34:36,350
and make it work for us
instead of us working for it.

715
00:34:36,695 --> 00:34:37,799
[Linklater] That's a threat.

716
00:34:37,834 --> 00:34:40,285
That's a threat to
The Conspiracy.

717
00:34:40,319 --> 00:34:43,115
That's a threat to the
mediocrity machine

718
00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:46,291
that is the modern
capitalist world.

719
00:34:47,499 --> 00:34:51,192
[Philo] Other creative people
started coming into the church.

720
00:34:51,227 --> 00:34:54,333
[Penn Jillette] There was a guy
who owned a record store

721
00:34:54,368 --> 00:34:55,886
in Amherst, Massachusetts.

722
00:34:55,921 --> 00:34:58,682
I think he's the one that
told me about the SubGenius.

723
00:34:58,717 --> 00:35:02,617
I was told at one point that
I was the only person

724
00:35:02,652 --> 00:35:05,241
who had paid his dues
to the SubGenius

725
00:35:05,275 --> 00:35:07,174
every single time they asked.

726
00:35:07,588 --> 00:35:10,556
The effect they had on
David Byrne,

727
00:35:10,591 --> 00:35:12,489
the effect they had on
The Residents,

728
00:35:12,524 --> 00:35:14,767
the effect they had on
Paul Reubens.

729
00:35:14,802 --> 00:35:16,804
Even people who didn't know

730
00:35:16,838 --> 00:35:20,221
were building on
SubGenius tropes

731
00:35:20,256 --> 00:35:21,809
and sensibilities.

732
00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:23,707
[Philo] It was very flattering.

733
00:35:23,742 --> 00:35:26,365
Some of these people
were like our heroes.

734
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,954
So to be recognized
by your heroes,

735
00:35:28,988 --> 00:35:30,783
it's a real ego boost.

736
00:35:30,818 --> 00:35:33,545
We actually got big
heads and stuff.

737
00:35:38,688 --> 00:35:41,760
[Stang] My sister-in-law,
she'd moved to New York

738
00:35:41,794 --> 00:35:44,176
and was in the
publishing business.

739
00:35:44,211 --> 00:35:46,523
She went to a picnic with a
bunch of other people in the

740
00:35:46,558 --> 00:35:50,320
publishing business and a young
man named Tim McGinnis,

741
00:35:50,355 --> 00:35:53,634
who was a brand new editor
at McGraw Hill,

742
00:35:53,668 --> 00:35:58,673
found this smudged pamphlet
on the floor of her car.

743
00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:00,434
He goes, "Where'd
this come from?"

744
00:36:00,468 --> 00:36:02,229
She goes, "Oh it's my
crazy brother-in-law.

745
00:36:02,263 --> 00:36:03,747
He and his buddy did this."

746
00:36:03,782 --> 00:36:05,818
He goes, "I want to get
in touch with him.

747
00:36:05,853 --> 00:36:07,544
And tell him to get
an agent."

748
00:36:09,339 --> 00:36:12,549
Next thing we knew Simon and
Schuster, McGraw Hill

749
00:36:12,584 --> 00:36:17,244
and MacMillan were all bidding
on the book of the SubGenius,

750
00:36:17,278 --> 00:36:21,386
which caused the asking price
to go up to $20,000.

751
00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:24,941
That was enough to pay Paul
Mavrides and John Hagan-Brenner

752
00:36:24,975 --> 00:36:27,806
to do professional design on it.

753
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,396
- Doug brought in
hand-scrawled manuscripts

754
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:37,298
and packets of clip art and
stuff that he wanted included

755
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,990
so I'd take a chapter
and I'd paste it up,

756
00:36:40,025 --> 00:36:42,924
I'd generate some
original material.

757
00:36:42,959 --> 00:36:47,619
[Stang] John's style was
perfect because it kind of

758
00:36:47,653 --> 00:36:49,552
matched the clip art.

759
00:36:49,586 --> 00:36:51,761
[Philo] When McGraw Hill
first released it,

760
00:36:51,795 --> 00:36:54,557
some places we could find it
in the religion section,

761
00:36:54,591 --> 00:36:57,560
and I thought that
was a huge win.

762
00:36:57,870 --> 00:36:59,596
We got a contract for a book.

763
00:36:59,631 --> 00:37:02,530
We got it in the stores and
it's in the religion section

764
00:37:02,565 --> 00:37:03,842
instead of the comedy section.

765
00:37:03,876 --> 00:37:05,050
It's not next to Doonesbury.

766
00:37:05,084 --> 00:37:07,017
It's next to the
Bible and stuff.

767
00:37:07,052 --> 00:37:10,020
- People go, "Man, I barely
made it through high school,

768
00:37:10,055 --> 00:37:14,749
"but I stumbled upon your
book and I realized

769
00:37:14,784 --> 00:37:16,889
I'm not the only one."

770
00:37:17,752 --> 00:37:19,478
[Penn] I got that book.

771
00:37:19,513 --> 00:37:22,067
I read it beginning to end.

772
00:37:22,101 --> 00:37:23,793
I absorbed that book.

773
00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:25,070
I adored that book.

774
00:37:25,104 --> 00:37:26,658
I love that book.

775
00:37:26,692 --> 00:37:30,765
They kept me with, "I get this,
I get this, I get this.

776
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,941
"I understand that this is
directly from my heart...

777
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:36,737
"What the fuck are
they talking about?

778
00:37:36,771 --> 00:37:38,980
I have no idea what this is."

779
00:37:39,015 --> 00:37:41,707
- This is the word of
all mighty Bob...

780
00:37:41,742 --> 00:37:43,433
Is the roadmap.

781
00:37:43,468 --> 00:37:45,711
There is no other book
like this book.

782
00:37:45,746 --> 00:37:47,541
No other word like this word.

783
00:37:47,575 --> 00:37:52,580
- It was these older,
wiser miscreants

784
00:37:52,615 --> 00:37:56,619
letting us know that indeed,
all of these human-made

785
00:37:56,653 --> 00:38:00,968
organizational systems are
as flawed as you suspect

786
00:38:01,002 --> 00:38:03,108
because they're made by us.

787
00:38:03,142 --> 00:38:05,421
- This was the age of Jim Jones

788
00:38:05,455 --> 00:38:09,804
and all kinds of other vampires
and psychic parasites

789
00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:14,084
out there using religion
to establish

790
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:17,916
control of a segment of
a confused and desperate

791
00:38:17,950 --> 00:38:20,539
population, and there's
no shortage of people

792
00:38:20,574 --> 00:38:23,853
like that for reasons
good and bad

793
00:38:23,887 --> 00:38:25,993
and real and imagined.

794
00:38:27,615 --> 00:38:32,931
- It's fascinating to me to
look at religious experience,

795
00:38:32,965 --> 00:38:34,484
to look at cults,

796
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,348
to look at us and them

797
00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:40,456
and all this stuff that I
passionately disavowed,

798
00:38:40,939 --> 00:38:44,114
and then saying to me, which
is what the SubGenius did,

799
00:38:44,149 --> 00:38:48,981
"No, no, we know you don't
believe in any of this stuff.

800
00:38:49,016 --> 00:38:53,123
"We know that us and them
is role,

801
00:38:53,158 --> 00:38:55,850
"But we're going to worship
Bob Dobbs

802
00:38:55,885 --> 00:38:58,577
"and we're all a congregation
and there's the pinks out there

803
00:38:58,612 --> 00:39:00,648
"and there's us in here
and we hate them

804
00:39:00,683 --> 00:39:03,410
and we love us and won't that
be fun for a little while?"

805
00:39:03,444 --> 00:39:06,067
- Slack is a gift to the God.

806
00:39:06,102 --> 00:39:08,932
The Baptist Church
did not save you.

807
00:39:08,967 --> 00:39:11,935
The Catholic Church
did not save you.

808
00:39:11,970 --> 00:39:14,869
The Unification Church
did not save you.

809
00:39:14,904 --> 00:39:17,665
The Jewish Synagogue
did not save you.

810
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:20,081
The Church of the SubGenius
did not save you,

811
00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:21,462
but it was Bob.

812
00:39:21,497 --> 00:39:23,395
Bob who walked on hot pavements-

813
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:26,156
[Paul] We actually are
a religion.

814
00:39:26,191 --> 00:39:27,365
You know, uh...

815
00:39:27,399 --> 00:39:31,161
that seems like a art piece
that seems like a religion

816
00:39:31,196 --> 00:39:34,579
that seems like performance art
that seems like a joke

817
00:39:34,613 --> 00:39:36,166
that seems like a religion.

818
00:39:36,201 --> 00:39:40,481
- Simply because we're involved
in something that is funny,

819
00:39:40,516 --> 00:39:43,450
we don't believe that for that
reason we should be taken

820
00:39:43,484 --> 00:39:45,486
any less seriously.

821
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,628
- We started getting invited to
things like art museums.

822
00:39:49,663 --> 00:39:52,493
They thought it was
performance art.

823
00:39:52,528 --> 00:39:56,083
[Paul] Ivan Stang was approached
by a fellow in San Francisco,

824
00:39:56,117 --> 00:39:59,845
wanted to put on a SubGenius
party in San Francisco

825
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,608
and Zoe pictured some storefront
or a loft or something

826
00:40:03,642 --> 00:40:07,577
with a hundred people and went,
"Yeah, we'll do that."

827
00:40:07,612 --> 00:40:09,959
And we came back to
the second meeting

828
00:40:09,993 --> 00:40:11,581
and Tom was all excited.

829
00:40:11,616 --> 00:40:15,102
He had gone out and rented a
900 seat theater

830
00:40:15,136 --> 00:40:16,552
for two nights.

831
00:40:16,586 --> 00:40:18,968
- San Francisco tonight is
the location of the

832
00:40:19,002 --> 00:40:23,973
first international SubGenius
World Survival Crusade.

833
00:40:24,007 --> 00:40:26,631
[Paul] TV stations picked up
on the show.

834
00:40:26,665 --> 00:40:29,496
[Beirn] It all began with
the book of the SubGenius

835
00:40:29,530 --> 00:40:31,774
and the Church's deity,
Bob Dobbs.

836
00:40:31,808 --> 00:40:35,709
- I was preparing tacos one day
for my children and...

837
00:40:37,952 --> 00:40:39,022
[Beirn] Now Bob-

838
00:40:39,057 --> 00:40:40,817
- The face appeared
and it's Bob.

839
00:40:40,852 --> 00:40:44,511
[Stang] The night of Slack show
in San Francisco in 1984

840
00:40:44,545 --> 00:40:47,962
was the first time anybody
had put any money

841
00:40:47,997 --> 00:40:49,826
into a SubGenius show

842
00:40:49,861 --> 00:40:53,899
and flew several people from
Dallas and other cities

843
00:40:53,934 --> 00:40:56,005
into San Francisco

844
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:59,629
and there was even a paid
stage manager.

845
00:40:59,664 --> 00:41:03,668
There were people building
sets just for that show.

846
00:41:03,702 --> 00:41:05,808
About half the people here
will have a great time.

847
00:41:05,842 --> 00:41:08,120
The rest of them will
probably run for the exits.

848
00:41:08,811 --> 00:41:10,916
[Paul] The one thing none
of us were at that point,

849
00:41:10,951 --> 00:41:13,263
and still aren't,
are professionals

850
00:41:13,298 --> 00:41:18,027
and I knew that nobody had ever
been in front of an audience

851
00:41:18,061 --> 00:41:21,133
as big as the one we were
hopefully going to draw.

852
00:41:21,168 --> 00:41:23,722
- I remember Friday night going
out around the corner

853
00:41:23,757 --> 00:41:25,621
of the Victoria Theater
and the line went out,

854
00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:27,761
up to Mission and
around the corner;

855
00:41:27,795 --> 00:41:29,521
I almost threw up
because I thought,

856
00:41:29,556 --> 00:41:32,835
"We're not showman, these
people are paying $7.50."

857
00:41:32,869 --> 00:41:35,665
- It looked like it was going
to be a disaster.

858
00:41:37,149 --> 00:41:38,737
As people were coming in,

859
00:41:38,772 --> 00:41:43,846
we had a galvanized tub
of evil-looking Kool-Aid.

860
00:41:45,123 --> 00:41:47,090
- Some people would come over
and they would take it eagerly,

861
00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:49,714
the Dixie cups, just like
they did in Jonestown

862
00:41:49,748 --> 00:41:52,268
and they would drink it and
they would come over and say,

863
00:41:52,302 --> 00:41:53,925
"How long till I get off?"

864
00:41:53,959 --> 00:41:57,307
And they thought it was like,
acid Kool-Aid,

865
00:41:57,342 --> 00:42:00,034
it was like, "Oh, about
20 minutes."

866
00:42:00,932 --> 00:42:03,762
- Of course some people
were very nervous.

867
00:42:03,797 --> 00:42:08,595
The real question was,
is this cyanide or LSD?

868
00:42:10,976 --> 00:42:13,772
We made sure it was
non-sweetened

869
00:42:13,807 --> 00:42:16,154
so we wouldn't kill
any diabetics.

870
00:42:16,188 --> 00:42:18,190
[organ music]

871
00:42:25,025 --> 00:42:27,579
[tempo picks up]

872
00:42:27,614 --> 00:42:29,616
[cheers and clapping]

873
00:42:35,656 --> 00:42:36,795
[Philo] It was great.

874
00:42:36,830 --> 00:42:40,109
It was really the first event
where a lot of people

875
00:42:40,143 --> 00:42:42,939
got together and said, "Hey,
we're all SubGeniuses,"

876
00:42:42,974 --> 00:42:44,182
rubbing elbows.

877
00:42:45,701 --> 00:42:47,599
- The Night of Slack ran
for two nights

878
00:42:47,634 --> 00:42:50,637
and was surprisingly successful.

879
00:42:51,292 --> 00:42:54,882
[Stang] It was the first show
that Bob Dobbs himself

880
00:42:54,917 --> 00:42:56,228
ever showed up at.

881
00:42:56,263 --> 00:42:59,024
We were not expecting
that at all.

882
00:43:00,785 --> 00:43:02,925
He walked out on stage,

883
00:43:02,959 --> 00:43:05,272
and then Puzzling Evidence,
Doug Wellman,

884
00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:09,345
runs out and shoots him
with a hand gun

885
00:43:09,379 --> 00:43:11,140
right in front of everybody.

886
00:43:11,174 --> 00:43:17,215
[indistinct crowd chatter]

887
00:43:17,249 --> 00:43:19,838
- Oh my God, Bob was
killed that night.

888
00:43:19,873 --> 00:43:21,357
It was so sad.

889
00:43:21,391 --> 00:43:22,220
[laughing]

890
00:43:22,254 --> 00:43:23,980
- We were coming from
the airport

891
00:43:24,015 --> 00:43:27,397
and I got to thinking, if you
want to sell a religion,

892
00:43:27,432 --> 00:43:28,778
you have to kill the deity.

893
00:43:28,813 --> 00:43:29,952
That's how you do it.

894
00:43:29,986 --> 00:43:32,713
So I shot Bob thinking the
thing would just take off.

895
00:43:32,748 --> 00:43:35,992
[Stang] The audience
went berserk.

896
00:43:36,027 --> 00:43:39,133
But the funny thing was
the cops didn't care.

897
00:43:39,168 --> 00:43:40,652
Nobody cared afterwards.

898
00:43:40,687 --> 00:43:42,136
People were having drinks.

899
00:43:42,171 --> 00:43:46,934
The band was dancing on the
corpse of J.R. Bob Dobbs.

900
00:43:46,969 --> 00:43:50,973
[chaotic music]

901
00:43:51,007 --> 00:43:53,700
- It was this chance
to just sing

902
00:43:53,734 --> 00:43:55,356
and dance and be crazy.

903
00:43:55,391 --> 00:43:58,946
It was really, really,
really, really fun.

904
00:43:59,429 --> 00:44:02,398
- Science does not remove the
terror of the gods.

905
00:44:03,433 --> 00:44:06,816
We can't do much about
those evil gods

906
00:44:06,851 --> 00:44:09,025
from the other side
of the cosmos.

907
00:44:09,301 --> 00:44:10,855
But enough of this,

908
00:44:10,889 --> 00:44:12,304
you don't want to hear
about this.

909
00:44:12,339 --> 00:44:14,444
Who is the right hand
man of Bob?

910
00:44:14,479 --> 00:44:17,240
Who sits on the right
hand side of Bob?

911
00:44:17,275 --> 00:44:21,693
None other than the
Reverend Ivan Stang.

912
00:44:21,728 --> 00:44:29,149
[cheers and applause]

913
00:44:29,183 --> 00:44:35,224
[cheers and applause]

914
00:44:36,087 --> 00:44:42,024
- I'm not here to talk about the
Bleeding Head of Arnold Palmer.

915
00:44:43,094 --> 00:44:47,029
- One of the things that we
liked to talk about

916
00:44:47,063 --> 00:44:49,272
was how the Church of the
SubGenius would allow you

917
00:44:49,307 --> 00:44:51,723
to control your own time.

918
00:44:51,758 --> 00:44:54,450
- Can we have the house lights
up a little bit?

919
00:44:54,484 --> 00:44:56,797
- We decided to have
our producer

920
00:44:56,832 --> 00:44:59,144
be our plant in the audience.

921
00:44:59,179 --> 00:45:02,389
- There's a main doctrine of the
church called time control.

922
00:45:02,423 --> 00:45:03,424
Many people don't want it.

923
00:45:03,459 --> 00:45:04,909
Will you take your watch off?

924
00:45:04,943 --> 00:45:07,463
[audience laughing]

925
00:45:07,497 --> 00:45:08,947
It's a nice watch.

926
00:45:08,982 --> 00:45:11,398
[audience laughing]

927
00:45:14,125 --> 00:45:18,405
[Paul] Then before he
presumably could be stopped,

928
00:45:18,439 --> 00:45:21,822
Ivan put the watch down
on the concrete block

929
00:45:21,857 --> 00:45:24,238
and not just smashed the watch,

930
00:45:24,273 --> 00:45:27,069
but broke the concrete
block into pieces.

931
00:45:28,277 --> 00:45:29,830
- Time control.

932
00:45:29,865 --> 00:45:31,418
It is time control.

933
00:45:31,452 --> 00:45:33,247
You've got to be willing
to kill everything

934
00:45:33,282 --> 00:45:34,835
in your previous life.

935
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:38,390
[Paul] And then what happened
was the unexpected.

936
00:45:38,425 --> 00:45:40,979
We were going to move on
to the next thing,

937
00:45:41,014 --> 00:45:44,811
but people in the audience
suddenly ran up to us

938
00:45:44,845 --> 00:45:46,985
and started taking
their watches off

939
00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:49,022
and throwing them on stage.

940
00:45:50,161 --> 00:45:52,853
Some of them were
really nice watches,

941
00:45:52,888 --> 00:45:56,408
but the audience demanded
that we smashed them all.

942
00:45:56,443 --> 00:45:59,239
[audience cheering]

943
00:45:59,273 --> 00:46:02,967
Doug had to sit up there and
smashing one after another.

944
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:07,040
So there it was.

945
00:46:07,074 --> 00:46:10,388
The audience was ready
to take it way beyond

946
00:46:10,422 --> 00:46:12,045
what we were doing.

947
00:46:12,321 --> 00:46:13,460
- Praise Bob!

948
00:46:13,494 --> 00:46:14,426
Praise Bob!

949
00:46:14,461 --> 00:46:16,152
[Wellman] I thought this
thing goes farther

950
00:46:16,187 --> 00:46:17,809
than I ever imagined.

951
00:46:19,569 --> 00:46:22,331
- We had run for the exits,
but only in order to get

952
00:46:22,365 --> 00:46:24,471
you this report on time tonight.

953
00:46:24,505 --> 00:46:26,438
However, if you're the kind of
person who likes to

954
00:46:26,473 --> 00:46:28,337
pull the wool over
your own eyes,

955
00:46:28,371 --> 00:46:30,960
church is in session again
tomorrow at 8:00 PM.

956
00:46:30,995 --> 00:46:33,066
- That was an amazing evening

957
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:37,449
and also, I met my first
crazy SubGenius.

958
00:46:38,554 --> 00:46:42,420
This was the first person
I ran into

959
00:46:42,454 --> 00:46:46,907
who took it all the wrong way.

960
00:46:47,494 --> 00:46:51,878
He came up to me after that
second show and he was livid.

961
00:46:51,912 --> 00:46:54,466
"The people in Dallas that did
this thing, and Bob,

962
00:46:54,501 --> 00:46:56,606
"when they find out you're just
making a Sonny and Cher

963
00:46:56,641 --> 00:46:59,299
"Comedy Show out of it,
they're going to kill you.

964
00:46:59,333 --> 00:47:00,265
"This is terrible.

965
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:01,853
"Look in this book here it says,

966
00:47:01,888 --> 00:47:03,337
"stop what you're doing
right now.

967
00:47:03,372 --> 00:47:04,304
"This is serious.

968
00:47:04,338 --> 00:47:05,512
"This is not a fan club.

969
00:47:05,546 --> 00:47:06,478
This is not a joke."

970
00:47:06,513 --> 00:47:10,482
And I said, "Dude, I wrote
all that stuff.

971
00:47:10,517 --> 00:47:13,244
"Me and Philo got high one night
and we wrote all this crap.

972
00:47:13,278 --> 00:47:14,383
Give me a break."

973
00:47:14,417 --> 00:47:16,143
It really shook me up.

974
00:47:17,248 --> 00:47:19,215
[Philo] It was a
little bit scary.

975
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:22,391
We realized some crazy people
are attracted to this.

976
00:47:22,425 --> 00:47:25,359
You know the ones that are
like, "Where's Bob?

977
00:47:25,394 --> 00:47:27,845
No, where's the real Bob?"

978
00:47:28,984 --> 00:47:32,056
- I think what starts off
like a joke,

979
00:47:32,090 --> 00:47:35,093
a few kind of believers who
want their life to have

980
00:47:35,128 --> 00:47:38,372
a little more meaning than
it does or they feel it does

981
00:47:38,407 --> 00:47:41,375
and then they get a
little too gung-ho.

982
00:47:41,410 --> 00:47:43,274
They want to adhere
a little too much.

983
00:47:43,308 --> 00:47:47,312
They start believing a little
too much, and then here we go.

984
00:47:49,418 --> 00:47:52,007
[Penn] You are playing
with fire

985
00:47:52,041 --> 00:47:57,012
and the idea of taking fire

986
00:47:57,046 --> 00:47:59,531
and doing what the
SubGenius did,

987
00:47:59,566 --> 00:48:01,533
which is setting off fireworks.

988
00:48:01,568 --> 00:48:02,949
It's really beautiful.

989
00:48:02,983 --> 00:48:04,260
It's really fun.

990
00:48:04,295 --> 00:48:09,196
And every second of that,

991
00:48:09,231 --> 00:48:11,509
just a little bit of gasoline

992
00:48:11,543 --> 00:48:14,167
and it'll tear your face off.

993
00:48:15,202 --> 00:48:17,722
- There are religions that were

994
00:48:17,756 --> 00:48:21,208
originally intended to be jokes

995
00:48:21,243 --> 00:48:23,693
and then they turned into gangs,

996
00:48:23,728 --> 00:48:25,592
you know, into mafias.

997
00:48:26,317 --> 00:48:30,252
- I'm here to offer you
an opportunity to know

998
00:48:30,286 --> 00:48:34,221
the truth so that if you
can connect with it,

999
00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:36,534
then you might survive.

1000
00:48:36,983 --> 00:48:39,330
- It's a kind of horrifying
moment when we realized

1001
00:48:39,364 --> 00:48:43,368
that we could probably pick up
300 people randomly

1002
00:48:43,403 --> 00:48:47,476
from anywhere who had
pledged their lives to us

1003
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:49,064
if we asked them to.

1004
00:48:49,098 --> 00:48:52,136
[screaming]

1005
00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:55,208
- I suspect that some of the
people who call themselves

1006
00:48:55,242 --> 00:48:58,176
SubGenius were actually
replacing their

1007
00:48:58,211 --> 00:49:00,592
childhood religion with this,

1008
00:49:00,627 --> 00:49:03,043
and that wasn't my world view,

1009
00:49:03,078 --> 00:49:06,357
but when I saw people do that,
it was a little scary.

1010
00:49:07,185 --> 00:49:09,601
- I guess I was angry at...

1011
00:49:09,636 --> 00:49:10,982
everyone.

1012
00:49:12,156 --> 00:49:15,159
I'd been treated pretty shitty
my entire life by folks.

1013
00:49:16,539 --> 00:49:18,231
Their message appealed to me.

1014
00:49:18,645 --> 00:49:23,132
[Paul] The traditional
exchange is that you

1015
00:49:23,167 --> 00:49:25,341
take responsibility for them.

1016
00:49:25,376 --> 00:49:28,758
They want you to tell
them what to do,

1017
00:49:28,793 --> 00:49:31,451
and this was the kind of power
we didn't want.

1018
00:49:31,485 --> 00:49:34,523
It was the exact opposite of
what we're aiming for,

1019
00:49:34,557 --> 00:49:38,182
which was to remove people
from that kind of a hook.

1020
00:49:38,527 --> 00:49:41,530
[Stang] There are people who
really want to join this cult

1021
00:49:41,564 --> 00:49:44,464
and want it to be everything
it says it is,

1022
00:49:44,498 --> 00:49:48,261
and then when they find out that
it's not anything it says it is,

1023
00:49:48,295 --> 00:49:50,470
they get really mad.

1024
00:49:51,816 --> 00:49:56,545
- You've heard our phrase "fuck
them if they can't take a joke."

1025
00:49:56,579 --> 00:49:58,374
This is important to us.

1026
00:49:58,409 --> 00:50:01,791
- Just when you think you
might get a handle on--

1027
00:50:01,826 --> 00:50:04,104
Oh, it's a collaborative
network of artists

1028
00:50:04,139 --> 00:50:05,071
all over the country.

1029
00:50:05,105 --> 00:50:06,106
That's all it is.

1030
00:50:06,141 --> 00:50:07,418
Oh no, that's not what it is.

1031
00:50:07,452 --> 00:50:11,801
So it's really a secretly sort
of a subversive organization.

1032
00:50:11,836 --> 00:50:13,286
No, no, it's not really that.

1033
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,597
It's just a bunch of
drunk guys in Dallas

1034
00:50:14,632 --> 00:50:16,254
trying to freak people out.

1035
00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:18,670
- You either got the joke
or you didn't,

1036
00:50:18,705 --> 00:50:21,846
and you got the joke instantly
or you didn't.

1037
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,538
- Occasionally people will
call us out on that whole

1038
00:50:24,573 --> 00:50:27,127
"fuck them if they can't take
a joke" thing or it's like,

1039
00:50:27,162 --> 00:50:29,405
"Well that just
excuses everything."

1040
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,787
No, it's just funny.

1041
00:50:31,821 --> 00:50:34,410
- When was the last time you
gave a straight answer?

1042
00:50:34,824 --> 00:50:36,550
- Well, these are all...

1043
00:50:36,585 --> 00:50:38,656
We don't care whether
they get the joke or not.

1044
00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:39,726
Half of them can't.

1045
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,659
- We're trying to make you laugh

1046
00:50:41,693 --> 00:50:44,144
but also maybe shock you
a little bit

1047
00:50:44,179 --> 00:50:46,698
with our irreverence and
you may think it's funny.

1048
00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:49,529
We hope you do,
but if you don't,

1049
00:50:49,563 --> 00:50:50,633
you shouldn't punish us

1050
00:50:50,668 --> 00:50:54,396
because we are trying to
deliver medicine of a sort

1051
00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:58,434
and if you can't take the joke,
then please go fuck yourself.

1052
00:51:04,475 --> 00:51:07,788
- It began in the heart of the
Bible Belt in Dallas, Texas,

1053
00:51:07,823 --> 00:51:10,584
but its membership is spreading
across the nation.

1054
00:51:10,619 --> 00:51:12,690
[News Anchor] Their
prophet's name is Bob

1055
00:51:12,724 --> 00:51:14,588
and their followers are legion.

1056
00:51:14,623 --> 00:51:17,729
[Paul] Everybody in
every mass media liked

1057
00:51:17,764 --> 00:51:20,560
Church of the SubGenius because
it was this crazy thing

1058
00:51:20,594 --> 00:51:25,151
that they could just inject
into their own stream.

1059
00:51:25,185 --> 00:51:26,876
In the absence of the internet,

1060
00:51:26,911 --> 00:51:29,500
it was kind of a meme for media.

1061
00:51:29,534 --> 00:51:32,641
[Reporter] People, 4,000 of
them so far and more every day

1062
00:51:32,675 --> 00:51:34,160
have already joined up.

1063
00:51:34,194 --> 00:51:36,472
Suddenly the joke
has become serious.

1064
00:51:36,507 --> 00:51:39,475
- At first it was a joke,
but there was something

1065
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:43,755
much deeper and more life
affirming than I even realize.

1066
00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:47,621
- Y'all are out to put down
outrageous cult groups.

1067
00:51:47,656 --> 00:51:48,622
What does this mean?

1068
00:51:48,657 --> 00:51:50,659
- No, no, this is an
outrageous cult group.

1069
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:54,904
[Philo] The church was meant
to never be mass marketable.

1070
00:51:54,939 --> 00:51:57,355
We never really wanted to
have a lot of followers.

1071
00:51:57,390 --> 00:52:00,496
- Basically I was a very
lonely weirdo

1072
00:52:00,531 --> 00:52:02,360
in a small Massachusetts town.

1073
00:52:02,395 --> 00:52:05,191
I finally got a boyfriend who
was a member of the church

1074
00:52:05,225 --> 00:52:07,917
and show me the pamphlets
and I said, this is it.

1075
00:52:07,952 --> 00:52:09,333
- They imparted into
me the values

1076
00:52:09,367 --> 00:52:12,232
that have gotten me
where I am today.

1077
00:52:12,267 --> 00:52:14,924
- We got this
attention, a lot of attention

1078
00:52:14,959 --> 00:52:19,274
and I started a fear that this
thing's going to get too big.

1079
00:52:19,619 --> 00:52:21,793
- What the hell do you
think you're doing?

1080
00:52:21,828 --> 00:52:24,796
Dragging your butt through the
day selling body and soul

1081
00:52:24,831 --> 00:52:27,247
to a bunch of bland normals?

1082
00:52:27,282 --> 00:52:30,250
There is a simple answer,
dear friend.

1083
00:52:30,285 --> 00:52:32,563
- I feel like I'm part of
something, yeah,

1084
00:52:32,597 --> 00:52:35,428
I feel like I'm finally being
represented by something.

1085
00:52:35,462 --> 00:52:39,846
[Speaker] The next president of
the United States of Brighton,

1086
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,538
Mr. Bob Dobbs.

1087
00:52:42,573 --> 00:52:44,402
- You have voted by
Time Magazine as the

1088
00:52:44,437 --> 00:52:45,679
fraud of the century.

1089
00:52:45,714 --> 00:52:48,406
Do you get any flak from the
folks from mainstream religion?

1090
00:52:48,441 --> 00:52:49,787
- Not nearly enough.

1091
00:52:49,821 --> 00:52:52,410
There was a little wave
of people going,

1092
00:52:52,445 --> 00:52:53,653
"Oh, they're corporate now.

1093
00:52:53,687 --> 00:52:55,413
"They're huge.
"They're sold out.

1094
00:52:55,448 --> 00:52:56,552
They're pink now."

1095
00:52:56,587 --> 00:52:58,830
Well, not really.

1096
00:52:58,865 --> 00:53:00,591
[Philo] Oh, we got Will at
just the right time,

1097
00:53:00,625 --> 00:53:01,626
counting checks.

1098
00:53:01,661 --> 00:53:03,249
- Huge wad of cash.

1099
00:53:03,283 --> 00:53:05,630
[Philo] Here we go again.

1100
00:53:05,665 --> 00:53:07,805
[Reporter] Like any other
prophet, Bob preaches about

1101
00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:08,840
the end of the world.

1102
00:53:08,875 --> 00:53:11,705
Only his predictions are
just a little different.

1103
00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:15,709
- The men from planet X
will arrive to rupture

1104
00:53:15,744 --> 00:53:19,713
the true believers of geniuses
up into the escape vessels

1105
00:53:19,748 --> 00:53:21,439
of the sex goddesses.

1106
00:53:21,474 --> 00:53:23,579
- Why do you do this?

1107
00:53:23,614 --> 00:53:25,719
[Stang] We offer eternal
salvation

1108
00:53:25,754 --> 00:53:27,756
or triple your money back.

1109
00:53:27,790 --> 00:53:29,620
[laughing]

1110
00:53:29,654 --> 00:53:31,346
- Triple your money back.

1111
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:32,588
- Is the world going to end?

1112
00:53:32,623 --> 00:53:34,038
That's what I'm asking you.

1113
00:53:34,072 --> 00:53:36,247
I said do you have a
prophecy of doom here for us?

1114
00:53:36,282 --> 00:53:38,594
- The world will
end for those who deserve it.

1115
00:53:38,629 --> 00:53:39,423
- All right, all right.

1116
00:53:39,457 --> 00:53:40,596
- Those who-
- Wait, wait, wait,

1117
00:53:40,631 --> 00:53:41,563
now we're getting somewhere.

1118
00:53:41,597 --> 00:53:44,013
All right, so basically
here's your deal.

1119
00:53:44,048 --> 00:53:47,707
For 30 bucks, you don't die
at the end of the world.

1120
00:53:58,062 --> 00:54:02,411
[screaming and yelling]

1121
00:54:02,446 --> 00:54:04,448
[Stang] It occurred to me,
this is the fulcrum event

1122
00:54:04,482 --> 00:54:06,035
of human history.

1123
00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:08,037
This is when we finally get
our history back

1124
00:54:08,072 --> 00:54:09,349
in our own hands.

1125
00:54:09,384 --> 00:54:10,385
- What an ass.

1126
00:54:10,419 --> 00:54:14,561
- It's time to join the
SubGenius Revolution.

1127
00:54:14,596 --> 00:54:16,045
The countdown has begun.

1128
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,840
It's like Christmas.

1129
00:54:17,875 --> 00:54:20,049
Santa is coming, Santa is
coming real soon

1130
00:54:20,084 --> 00:54:21,706
and we've got the short wave
you can tune in

1131
00:54:21,741 --> 00:54:23,915
and hear Santa delivering
his little gifts of

1132
00:54:23,950 --> 00:54:25,952
death and destruction.

1133
00:54:25,986 --> 00:54:28,506
- At X day, you always see
all sorts of different

1134
00:54:28,541 --> 00:54:31,785
people and they all had this
kind of common sense of humor,

1135
00:54:31,820 --> 00:54:33,925
a warped sense of humor,
a dark sense of humor

1136
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,721
and I find dark sense of humor
to be the most fascinating

1137
00:54:36,756 --> 00:54:39,103
type of sense of humor
because it's taboo.

1138
00:54:39,137 --> 00:54:41,416
You could talk about all
these taboo subjects

1139
00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:44,522
and make jokes about things
that polite company

1140
00:54:44,557 --> 00:54:47,318
would find extremely
distasteful.

1141
00:54:47,353 --> 00:54:49,389
- We're going to find out
if he's really Jewish.

1142
00:54:49,424 --> 00:54:51,805
[laughing]

1143
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,531
[Follower] Let's make him
Jewish if he's not.

1144
00:54:53,566 --> 00:54:55,326
[cheers]

1145
00:54:55,361 --> 00:54:56,845
- It was cool as shit.

1146
00:54:56,879 --> 00:54:59,951
I was a socially awkward person
and suddenly, you know,

1147
00:54:59,986 --> 00:55:04,439
after a couple of sermons,
I could go to half the towns

1148
00:55:04,473 --> 00:55:07,131
on the East Coast and people
would open their doors to me,

1149
00:55:07,165 --> 00:55:08,374
buy me dinner.

1150
00:55:08,408 --> 00:55:13,620
About a week ago, I had a
vision of seven o'clock coming,

1151
00:55:13,655 --> 00:55:16,347
and Reverend Stang getting up on
stage and making some kind of

1152
00:55:16,382 --> 00:55:19,143
lame excuse while the
saucers didn't come,

1153
00:55:19,177 --> 00:55:21,766
then some bent dumb ass
out in the audience

1154
00:55:21,801 --> 00:55:23,630
just putting a bullet in him.

1155
00:55:23,665 --> 00:55:28,394
- We're missing Jesus and Stang.

1156
00:55:28,428 --> 00:55:30,741
Perhaps there are some amongst
us that are worried

1157
00:55:30,775 --> 00:55:34,020
that if nothing shows up
in 20 minutes,

1158
00:55:34,054 --> 00:55:37,334
they're going to get themselves
beat to a bloody pulp.

1159
00:55:38,127 --> 00:55:41,027
- There's a white limo
pulling up.

1160
00:55:41,061 --> 00:55:42,856
[Speaker] It is a
white limousine.

1161
00:55:42,891 --> 00:55:47,585
[indistinct chatter]

1162
00:55:47,620 --> 00:55:48,862
[Follower] Hail the limousine.

1163
00:55:48,897 --> 00:55:50,899
[Stang] Of course, there's
tremendous feeling

1164
00:55:50,933 --> 00:55:52,141
of anticipation.

1165
00:55:52,176 --> 00:55:56,076
Twenty years ago I thought
1998 was a million years off.

1166
00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:59,425
Geez it's really coming,
this is really happening.

1167
00:56:00,184 --> 00:56:04,499
This is the original handwritten
note in J.R. Bob Dobbs

1168
00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:12,541
own hand that says the world
ends July 5th, 7am, 1998.

1169
00:56:13,197 --> 00:56:16,994
This is the original
paper touched by Bob.

1170
00:56:18,064 --> 00:56:20,584
- It's been difficult
to be patient,

1171
00:56:20,618 --> 00:56:22,965
but I knew that if I
just persevered,

1172
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,485
I'd be able to say
goodbye from above,

1173
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,659
from the saucers.

1174
00:56:26,693 --> 00:56:28,626
[Stang] Thirty seconds.

1175
00:56:28,661 --> 00:56:32,043
- Here's this joke that I've
been telling myself

1176
00:56:32,078 --> 00:56:36,013
and other people for
over half my life.

1177
00:56:36,565 --> 00:56:40,742
[Followers] Thirteen,
twelve, eleven, ten,

1178
00:56:40,776 --> 00:56:44,055
nine, eight, seven,

1179
00:56:44,090 --> 00:56:47,576
six, five, four,

1180
00:56:47,611 --> 00:56:50,752
three, two, one.

1181
00:56:50,786 --> 00:56:56,723
Fuck them if they
can't take a joke.

1182
00:56:59,554 --> 00:57:02,695
[Onan] And then the saucers
didn't show up.

1183
00:57:03,972 --> 00:57:07,665
- At one time, this, uh, date
was comfortably far

1184
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:12,808
in the future, but it has
turned out that the

1185
00:57:12,843 --> 00:57:14,845
pleasure saucers of
the sex goddesses

1186
00:57:14,879 --> 00:57:17,813
did not descend on that
occasion to lift us

1187
00:57:17,848 --> 00:57:21,541
all off into universes of slack.

1188
00:57:22,577 --> 00:57:23,992
[Onan] Everybody was
looking around.

1189
00:57:24,026 --> 00:57:25,511
Looking around at each other.

1190
00:57:25,545 --> 00:57:27,582
- He's a charlatan.

1191
00:57:28,686 --> 00:57:30,895
He's a fucking charlatan
and he's been lying to us

1192
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:32,690
all these years.

1193
00:57:32,725 --> 00:57:35,659
There ain't no Bob Dobbs,
it's just a fucking dummy.

1194
00:57:35,693 --> 00:57:37,108
It's a fucking dummy.

1195
00:57:37,143 --> 00:57:39,110
- I just did what Bob
told me to do.

1196
00:57:40,526 --> 00:57:42,769
- I had a real philosophical
problem with the X day thing,

1197
00:57:42,804 --> 00:57:44,806
and I still have a hard
time remembering the date

1198
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,014
because in any religion,

1199
00:57:46,048 --> 00:57:47,774
if you have an end
of the world date,

1200
00:57:47,809 --> 00:57:50,570
I think it should be written
in the bylaws that that date

1201
00:57:50,605 --> 00:57:53,262
has to happen long after you,
the person issuing the date,

1202
00:57:53,297 --> 00:57:54,229
is dead.

1203
00:57:54,263 --> 00:57:55,472
You don't put it just
a few years later.

1204
00:57:55,506 --> 00:57:59,993
[Philo] We never really expected
the Church to go to 1998.

1205
00:58:00,028 --> 00:58:03,997
Back in 1981, we set 98 out
there cause it was still

1206
00:58:04,032 --> 00:58:05,171
way out there.

1207
00:58:05,205 --> 00:58:07,794
[Speaker] We tried to warn you
children.

1208
00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:09,693
You wouldn't listen.

1209
00:58:11,798 --> 00:58:14,007
You can't take all the money,

1210
00:58:14,042 --> 00:58:15,008
all the girls,

1211
00:58:15,043 --> 00:58:16,147
and all the Slack

1212
00:58:16,182 --> 00:58:18,287
and never have to pay it back.

1213
00:58:18,322 --> 00:58:21,601
We're going to need a good
lubricant, aren't we children?

1214
00:58:21,636 --> 00:58:28,608
[screaming and cheering]

1215
00:58:28,643 --> 00:58:34,856
[screaming and cheering]

1216
00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:36,685
[Dr. Legume] I guess to
be honest,

1217
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,239
I'd have to say that I
never really expected

1218
00:58:39,274 --> 00:58:41,069
any flying saucers.

1219
00:58:42,346 --> 00:58:44,762
To be honest,

1220
00:58:44,797 --> 00:58:48,904
a lot of this stuff is
really, really stupid,

1221
00:58:48,939 --> 00:58:53,875
but I guess a lot of people
need something really stupid

1222
00:58:53,909 --> 00:58:56,084
in their lives to
give it meaning.

1223
00:58:56,602 --> 00:58:58,086
- I don't know, it's still a
pretty beautiful world

1224
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,159
we've got here and Bob is still
a very important part of my life

1225
00:59:02,193 --> 00:59:03,850
and always will be.

1226
00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:10,581
[Philo] There was some
sense that, now what?

1227
00:59:12,963 --> 00:59:15,310
- The decade has been
marked by strong growth,

1228
00:59:15,344 --> 00:59:17,761
the lowest unemployment
in a generation

1229
00:59:17,795 --> 00:59:20,902
and yet remarkably little
inflation.

1230
00:59:20,936 --> 00:59:24,353
[Reporter] Some think it's
a boom without end.

1231
00:59:24,388 --> 00:59:28,116
- I was about to give up
on the church.

1232
00:59:29,186 --> 00:59:32,361
The thing was 10, 15 years old
and people were

1233
00:59:32,396 --> 00:59:33,604
starting to get tired of it

1234
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:38,989
and things weren't quite as
terrifying as they are now.

1235
00:59:40,749 --> 00:59:42,786
[Reporter] As freer trade
flourished this decade,

1236
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:46,065
the internet evolved into a
commercial phenomenon.

1237
00:59:46,099 --> 00:59:47,929
- Then the internet came along.

1238
00:59:47,963 --> 00:59:51,346
[Onan] People can tune in
to it 24 hours a day.

1239
00:59:51,380 --> 00:59:56,006
[Stang] Suddenly we could
reach those fringe people

1240
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,734
that weren't going to run
into it in a bookstore.

1241
00:59:59,768 --> 01:00:02,322
[Onan] There's the loss of
you have to know a guy.

1242
01:00:03,082 --> 01:00:07,983
- In the 80s, there was a cost
to knowing about them.

1243
01:00:08,018 --> 01:00:13,195
Now you can meet people and
signal who you are

1244
01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,646
in quicker and more
efficient ways,

1245
01:00:15,681 --> 01:00:17,890
perhaps with less depth.

1246
01:00:18,269 --> 01:00:20,686
[Philo] The internet
did so much to kill

1247
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,758
so much old ways of
doing things.

1248
01:00:23,792 --> 01:00:27,140
I think it makes it a lot harder
now to make a big splash.

1249
01:00:27,175 --> 01:00:28,763
[Paul] It was a medium.

1250
01:00:28,797 --> 01:00:32,905
It flattens everything out
like TV used to do,

1251
01:00:32,939 --> 01:00:35,735
so that an inconsequential
offend is the same

1252
01:00:35,770 --> 01:00:37,806
as a horrendous calamity

1253
01:00:37,841 --> 01:00:41,085
or a staggering triumph
of humanity

1254
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,296
and the people exposed to
it no longer can distinguish

1255
01:00:45,331 --> 01:00:50,198
between factual things
and fantasies and trite.

1256
01:00:57,412 --> 01:00:58,689
[News Anchor] Good evening
everyone.

1257
01:00:58,724 --> 01:01:01,312
The reaction of so many people
today was, "Oh no, not again."

1258
01:01:01,347 --> 01:01:04,764
Another high school, Columbine
High in Littleton, Colorado

1259
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:08,043
this time on the edge of Denver,
it has been a horror.

1260
01:01:08,078 --> 01:01:09,976
[Reporter] Police have
identified the gunmen as

1261
01:01:10,011 --> 01:01:12,496
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

1262
01:01:12,530 --> 01:01:15,257
They apparently belonged to a
cliché of outcasts called

1263
01:01:15,292 --> 01:01:17,052
the Trench-coat Mafia.

1264
01:01:17,087 --> 01:01:18,951
[News Anchor] Do you have an
explanation for this stuff?

1265
01:01:18,985 --> 01:01:21,298
- A lot of it's the feeling
of being an outsider,

1266
01:01:21,332 --> 01:01:22,609
feeling disempowered.

1267
01:01:22,644 --> 01:01:24,750
[News Anchor] You have middle
class kids that are alienated

1268
01:01:24,784 --> 01:01:28,063
and angry, and we've always
had alienated kids,

1269
01:01:28,098 --> 01:01:30,514
but these kids become real
powerful because they get

1270
01:01:30,548 --> 01:01:32,240
linked together via the internet

1271
01:01:32,274 --> 01:01:35,761
and the sad thing is that
this may not be the end.

1272
01:01:35,795 --> 01:01:37,383
[Ray] Joe's next in Tallahassee.

1273
01:01:37,417 --> 01:01:38,556
Hi Joe.
- Hey Ray.

1274
01:01:38,591 --> 01:01:40,904
This is all part of that Church
and the SubGenius thing,

1275
01:01:40,938 --> 01:01:44,908
which is a big deal about
exterminating the normals

1276
01:01:44,942 --> 01:01:46,150
and killing the pinks

1277
01:01:46,185 --> 01:01:48,912
and now we see the ultimate
tuition of that.

1278
01:01:48,946 --> 01:01:50,085
Don't we?

1279
01:01:51,362 --> 01:01:56,160
- Father Joe Mama, not one to be
accused of extra good taste.

1280
01:01:56,195 --> 01:02:01,062
He decided to promote our
upcoming Boston show

1281
01:02:01,096 --> 01:02:03,547
in a kind of reverse way.

1282
01:02:03,581 --> 01:02:05,376
- Another one of my little
functions in the

1283
01:02:05,411 --> 01:02:09,346
Church of the SubGenius is
that of agent provocateur.

1284
01:02:09,380 --> 01:02:11,969
The face that makes the
outside world think of the

1285
01:02:12,004 --> 01:02:14,523
Church of the SubGenius
is very dangerous.

1286
01:02:14,558 --> 01:02:17,492
[Radio Host] Joe, you obviously
know a lot about this cult,

1287
01:02:17,526 --> 01:02:21,461
and it sounds horrifying
by your description.

1288
01:02:21,496 --> 01:02:24,119
[Joe Mama] They're having a
devival this weekend in Boston

1289
01:02:24,154 --> 01:02:26,881
and the bodies aren't
even cold in the graves.

1290
01:02:26,915 --> 01:02:28,399
And then the host says,
"Well I always heard the

1291
01:02:28,434 --> 01:02:29,884
Church of the SubGenius
was a joke."

1292
01:02:29,918 --> 01:02:30,885
Well see, that's the thing.

1293
01:02:30,919 --> 01:02:32,058
They pawn it off as a joke.

1294
01:02:32,093 --> 01:02:33,853
So people don't take
it seriously.

1295
01:02:33,888 --> 01:02:35,821
[Philo] That was over the top.

1296
01:02:35,855 --> 01:02:38,375
Sure, you want to find the
media event that you can

1297
01:02:38,409 --> 01:02:41,965
go get attention from,
but that's bad taste.

1298
01:02:42,828 --> 01:02:45,347
[Stang] I didn't really
appreciate that,

1299
01:02:45,382 --> 01:02:48,972
but I'm generally not going to
run around censoring people

1300
01:02:49,006 --> 01:02:51,491
or telling people what
they can or can't say.

1301
01:02:51,526 --> 01:02:55,012
- Somebody in Boston City
Council did take us seriously

1302
01:02:55,047 --> 01:02:58,326
and they managed to get
the venue to shut down

1303
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,604
and not allow us to
do the devival.

1304
01:03:00,638 --> 01:03:03,987
- The Cambridge Baptist Church
heard about it

1305
01:03:04,021 --> 01:03:06,230
and came to our rescue and said,

1306
01:03:06,265 --> 01:03:11,132
you can do your devival
at our church.

1307
01:03:11,166 --> 01:03:13,444
Then they started
getting bomb threats.

1308
01:03:19,036 --> 01:03:20,589
[Joe Mama] We had basically
performed outside the

1309
01:03:20,624 --> 01:03:22,937
venue in some park or
something like that

1310
01:03:22,971 --> 01:03:26,285
and Friday had a chance to
basically put me on trial

1311
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:29,322
for this questionable humor
and the whole time,

1312
01:03:29,357 --> 01:03:31,290
even though Friday and I
are good friends

1313
01:03:31,324 --> 01:03:33,188
and I wasn't worried about
what she would do,

1314
01:03:33,223 --> 01:03:37,330
the audience kind of took
it a lot more seriously.

1315
01:03:37,365 --> 01:03:40,126
The choice is yours, my friends,
do you merely want to

1316
01:03:40,161 --> 01:03:42,922
enslave the normals or do you
want to add the options

1317
01:03:42,957 --> 01:03:44,855
to kill them dead on instinct?

1318
01:03:44,890 --> 01:03:46,408
- Like this one.

1319
01:03:46,443 --> 01:03:47,340
Kill.

1320
01:03:47,375 --> 01:03:49,653
Kill. Kill. Kill.

1321
01:03:49,687 --> 01:03:50,619
Kill.

1322
01:03:52,690 --> 01:03:54,106
[Joe Mama] You were wondering,

1323
01:03:54,140 --> 01:03:56,453
did they know that
this was a joke?

1324
01:03:57,937 --> 01:04:02,424
- There've been many
situations where people

1325
01:04:02,459 --> 01:04:05,289
got the wrong idea about Church
of the SubGenius.

1326
01:04:05,324 --> 01:04:09,466
Of course we want them to,
so we asked for it,

1327
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:13,021
but it has backfired
a few times.

1328
01:04:13,056 --> 01:04:16,197
[Dr. Legume] There actually were
serious cult deprogrammers

1329
01:04:16,231 --> 01:04:20,408
who had added Church of the
SubGenius to their watch lists

1330
01:04:20,442 --> 01:04:24,377
of cults to watch out for
and warn people about.

1331
01:04:24,412 --> 01:04:27,380
This Church of the SubGenius
hates a lot of things.

1332
01:04:27,415 --> 01:04:30,107
They hate the right things.

1333
01:04:30,142 --> 01:04:35,009
Sometimes they make fun
of the wrong things.

1334
01:04:37,563 --> 01:04:40,428
- I dropped character now
because there've been

1335
01:04:40,462 --> 01:04:42,223
so many crazies.

1336
01:04:42,257 --> 01:04:47,607
It's important for me
not to leave behind

1337
01:04:47,642 --> 01:04:52,647
another Scientology
or Mormonism.

1338
01:04:52,681 --> 01:04:55,339
- I don't know that they
really got the message.

1339
01:04:55,374 --> 01:04:59,274
You know that the
real message is:

1340
01:04:59,309 --> 01:05:00,689
Think for yourself,

1341
01:05:00,724 --> 01:05:02,208
be your own leader.

1342
01:05:02,243 --> 01:05:06,695
- The idea is not in restraint.

1343
01:05:06,730 --> 01:05:10,492
It's in confronting
the dark things.

1344
01:05:11,010 --> 01:05:15,083
Finding the things that hurt us
and tear us apart

1345
01:05:15,118 --> 01:05:17,534
and pulling the fangs
out of them,

1346
01:05:17,568 --> 01:05:21,538
making them into a
fucking joke

1347
01:05:21,572 --> 01:05:24,713
because that's the whole
premise of the Church,

1348
01:05:24,748 --> 01:05:27,475
is fuck them if they
can't take a joke.

1349
01:05:38,624 --> 01:05:41,006
[News Anchor] This just in, you
are looking at obviously

1350
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,593
a very disturbing live shot
there.

1351
01:05:42,628 --> 01:05:45,596
The plane has crashed into
one of the towers

1352
01:05:45,631 --> 01:05:47,702
of the World Trade Center.

1353
01:05:48,496 --> 01:05:53,052
- Terrorism against our
nation will not stand

1354
01:05:53,087 --> 01:05:55,503
and now if you join me in a
moment of silence.

1355
01:05:58,609 --> 01:06:02,406
- The view from my apartment...

1356
01:06:06,479 --> 01:06:08,136
was the World Trade Center.

1357
01:06:08,481 --> 01:06:11,001
- Watching all of this, I wasn't
sure that I should be doing

1358
01:06:11,036 --> 01:06:15,247
a television show because for
20 years we've been in the city

1359
01:06:15,281 --> 01:06:16,524
making fun of everything,

1360
01:06:16,558 --> 01:06:19,768
making fun of the city to come
to this circumstance that is

1361
01:06:19,803 --> 01:06:22,771
so desperately sad, I and I
don't trust my judgment

1362
01:06:22,806 --> 01:06:24,635
in matters like this.

1363
01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:26,810
- Like I was thinking the other
day that you can figure out

1364
01:06:26,844 --> 01:06:29,606
how bad a person you are by
how soon after September 11th

1365
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,298
you masturbated, like how
long you waited.

1366
01:06:32,333 --> 01:06:34,231
- I don't like political
correctness in any of its forms.

1367
01:06:34,266 --> 01:06:35,784
I'm not saying you shouldn't
be allowed to say it.

1368
01:06:35,819 --> 01:06:36,923
Not funny at all.

1369
01:06:36,958 --> 01:06:40,651
- I can hear you, the rest of
the world hears you,

1370
01:06:40,686 --> 01:06:44,345
and the people who knocked
these buildings down

1371
01:06:44,379 --> 01:06:47,210
will hear all of us soon.

1372
01:06:47,244 --> 01:06:49,695
[Nurse Kelly] Time was
changing and we could feel it.

1373
01:06:50,385 --> 01:06:52,629
- I kind of feared that this
may be the end of the

1374
01:06:52,663 --> 01:06:56,529
Church and the SubGenius soon
just because...

1375
01:06:58,221 --> 01:07:02,397
just because we're not going
to be able to make fun of

1376
01:07:02,432 --> 01:07:04,089
things that hurt people.

1377
01:07:04,123 --> 01:07:06,194
[Reporter] President Bush finds
himself enjoying huge

1378
01:07:06,229 --> 01:07:07,402
public support.

1379
01:07:07,437 --> 01:07:09,542
[George W. Bush] Either
you're with us,

1380
01:07:09,577 --> 01:07:11,579
either you love freedom

1381
01:07:11,613 --> 01:07:13,305
or you're with the enemy.

1382
01:07:15,307 --> 01:07:19,414
[Stang] It was getting kind of
serious and disturbing.

1383
01:07:25,455 --> 01:07:28,699
[Radio Host] Yetis and
simpletons, we have a lot of

1384
01:07:28,734 --> 01:07:31,806
fun here at the Institute,

1385
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,466
but unfortunately the fish
has hit the fan.

1386
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:41,471
Reverend Mary Magdalen has had
her child taken from her

1387
01:07:41,505 --> 01:07:44,715
for no greater crime than
her membership in the

1388
01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:46,683
Church of the SubGenius

1389
01:07:46,717 --> 01:07:50,721
and her participation in
X day drills.

1390
01:07:50,756 --> 01:07:53,310
[Stang] Because of pictures
on the internet,

1391
01:07:53,345 --> 01:07:57,694
the family court judge in this
little town in New York state

1392
01:07:57,728 --> 01:08:00,731
took the little boy away
from the mom

1393
01:08:00,766 --> 01:08:04,597
because she was a SubGenius.

1394
01:08:04,632 --> 01:08:08,187
[Radio Host] Why don't you head
to your favorite web browser

1395
01:08:08,222 --> 01:08:14,193
and type in
subgenius.com/maghelp.

1396
01:08:14,918 --> 01:08:16,609
- They got the kid back,

1397
01:08:16,644 --> 01:08:19,647
not because of sanity on
the part of the judges,

1398
01:08:19,681 --> 01:08:24,203
it was because the biological
father screwed up so very badly,

1399
01:08:24,238 --> 01:08:28,483
but for two years,
we were in the news.

1400
01:08:30,658 --> 01:08:34,455
- I just thought, if I'm
associated with something

1401
01:08:34,489 --> 01:08:36,629
where they can take
away my kids,

1402
01:08:36,664 --> 01:08:39,736
I don't want my name anywhere
on it and I think that's a

1403
01:08:39,770 --> 01:08:42,359
reminder about who we are today,

1404
01:08:42,394 --> 01:08:45,328
where you get punished for
who you're associated with.

1405
01:08:45,362 --> 01:08:49,194
- You must be ready to unleash a
shitload of fire and brimstone,

1406
01:08:49,228 --> 01:08:52,507
death, bullets, lead, guns,
fucking knives...

1407
01:08:52,542 --> 01:08:55,476
For a while, I was feeling a
bit morally culpable about

1408
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:59,894
telling a group of people who
are attracted to an organization

1409
01:08:59,928 --> 01:09:03,760
that is targeted towards

1410
01:09:03,794 --> 01:09:07,936
awkward and marginalized and
sometimes mentally ill people

1411
01:09:07,971 --> 01:09:10,215
and standing up in front of
them like some big

1412
01:09:10,249 --> 01:09:13,321
pumped up superheroes
screaming and yelling about

1413
01:09:13,356 --> 01:09:15,599
how they should live
a life of hate.

1414
01:09:17,877 --> 01:09:20,880
[Stang] A lot of the energy
that was there was from,

1415
01:09:20,915 --> 01:09:23,607
I won't say we were pissed off
or mad or angry,

1416
01:09:23,642 --> 01:09:26,403
but maybe we were a
little bit angry;

1417
01:09:26,438 --> 01:09:28,957
angry young man railing
against the system

1418
01:09:28,992 --> 01:09:31,443
a little bit through humor.

1419
01:09:31,477 --> 01:09:33,169
- Because we hate you.

1420
01:09:33,583 --> 01:09:36,689
[Stang] But I think that you
can't sustain that level

1421
01:09:36,724 --> 01:09:38,622
for that long and I think
the people get tired

1422
01:09:38,657 --> 01:09:40,762
and want something new
after a while.

1423
01:09:41,694 --> 01:09:44,663
- I took a lot of these zaniness
and the absurdity

1424
01:09:44,697 --> 01:09:47,321
and that actually was very
helpful to have

1425
01:09:47,355 --> 01:09:50,427
and to kind of have in your hip
pocket as you went through life.

1426
01:09:50,462 --> 01:09:54,880
But it got a little
too far out for me.

1427
01:09:57,434 --> 01:09:59,022
- I had an epiphany.

1428
01:09:59,056 --> 01:10:03,992
I realized that The Conspiracy
that had stolen my Slack

1429
01:10:04,027 --> 01:10:07,893
for 50 years of my life was me.

1430
01:10:09,032 --> 01:10:12,346
I had to lay off
the hate part of it.

1431
01:10:13,657 --> 01:10:18,662
Like anything, Bob is best in
reasonable, sensible doses.

1432
01:10:19,594 --> 01:10:22,873
You do not want to drink the
whole pitcher of Kool-Aid,

1433
01:10:22,908 --> 01:10:26,222
you just what to drink
a small cup.

1434
01:10:27,326 --> 01:10:28,810
I don't really want to
destroy you, man,

1435
01:10:28,845 --> 01:10:32,228
and you don't even care if
the saucers come or not.

1436
01:10:34,022 --> 01:10:36,991
[Philo] I took a short break
when I was transferred

1437
01:10:37,025 --> 01:10:38,751
to California.

1438
01:10:38,786 --> 01:10:42,617
I was actually being career
advanced in the company

1439
01:10:42,652 --> 01:10:43,480
I was working for.

1440
01:10:43,515 --> 01:10:45,896
They thought I was doing
a great job,

1441
01:10:45,931 --> 01:10:48,416
so I just followed it.

1442
01:10:48,451 --> 01:10:54,871
I couldn't be as strong in the
church as I wanted to be

1443
01:10:54,905 --> 01:10:58,771
and having as much fun
with it as I did, you know.

1444
01:10:59,669 --> 01:11:02,534
[Stang] The world never did know
about Church of the SubGenius.

1445
01:11:02,568 --> 01:11:06,538
We never were that big.

1446
01:11:07,332 --> 01:11:09,851
It is kind of obscure
that keeps it special.

1447
01:11:09,886 --> 01:11:11,784
If everybody knew about it,

1448
01:11:11,819 --> 01:11:13,579
it would be normal.

1449
01:11:14,684 --> 01:11:15,892
[Paul] We were just too lazy.

1450
01:11:15,926 --> 01:11:19,067
We didn't want to be responsible
for our own cult members.

1451
01:11:19,102 --> 01:11:23,693
We just wanted to tap them on
the forehead and say, wake up.

1452
01:11:24,452 --> 01:11:29,354
And of course some people you
have to hit with a sledgehammer,

1453
01:11:29,388 --> 01:11:31,977
and even then that
doesn't do the trick.

1454
01:11:32,426 --> 01:11:35,325
Or you can get them to wake
for a second or two

1455
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,672
and then they doze off again

1456
01:11:37,707 --> 01:11:41,366
as soon as they see a cat
picture on the internet.

1457
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:48,407
[dramatic music]

1458
01:11:48,442 --> 01:11:50,685
- Today's secret ingredient
is...

1459
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,482
[dramatic music]

1460
01:11:54,517 --> 01:11:57,589
[cheers]

1461
01:12:00,592 --> 01:12:01,524
- How am I doing?

1462
01:12:01,558 --> 01:12:02,490
Am I doing okay?

1463
01:12:02,525 --> 01:12:03,388
I'm President.

1464
01:12:03,422 --> 01:12:04,699
Hey, I'm President.

1465
01:12:04,734 --> 01:12:06,598
Can you believe it?

1466
01:12:07,530 --> 01:12:10,774
[Paul] Donald Trump's
probably the most SubGenius

1467
01:12:10,809 --> 01:12:13,329
world leader there's ever been.

1468
01:12:15,848 --> 01:12:18,886
He's completely caught up
in his own world.

1469
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,683
Does what he wants makes
up his own reality.

1470
01:12:22,717 --> 01:12:23,994
- I'm not going to give
you a question.

1471
01:12:24,029 --> 01:12:25,755
- Can you state-
- You are fake news.

1472
01:12:25,789 --> 01:12:28,999
- Sean Spicer, our
Press Secretary gave

1473
01:12:29,034 --> 01:12:29,966
alternative facts.

1474
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,729
- Facts and lies have
no meaning to him.

1475
01:12:34,764 --> 01:12:37,732
SubGenius, but not in a
good way.

1476
01:12:37,767 --> 01:12:38,699
- Trump steaks.

1477
01:12:38,733 --> 01:12:40,183
Where are the steaks?
Do we have steaks?

1478
01:12:40,217 --> 01:12:41,874
We've been friends
for a long time.

1479
01:12:41,909 --> 01:12:44,014
- We're living in a world
that's upside down.

1480
01:12:44,049 --> 01:12:46,189
Trump is the perfect example now

1481
01:12:46,223 --> 01:12:48,778
of a world turned upside down.

1482
01:12:49,503 --> 01:12:50,883
He's the "Joker."

1483
01:12:51,125 --> 01:12:53,023
- This is a special year.

1484
01:12:53,058 --> 01:12:55,612
Our country is doing great.

1485
01:12:55,923 --> 01:12:59,547
[Penn] We've got surreal,

1486
01:12:59,582 --> 01:13:01,687
unbelievable,

1487
01:13:01,722 --> 01:13:02,895
shocking,

1488
01:13:02,930 --> 01:13:04,172
psychedelic

1489
01:13:04,207 --> 01:13:06,071
covered with reality right now.

1490
01:13:06,105 --> 01:13:08,970
- It's not a good place for
any party to end up

1491
01:13:09,005 --> 01:13:12,042
with a cult-like situation.

1492
01:13:12,077 --> 01:13:15,908
- I mean, Bob Dobbs is
not in any way

1493
01:13:15,943 --> 01:13:17,841
weirder than Donald Trump.

1494
01:13:17,876 --> 01:13:19,153
I mean, Donald Trump wins.

1495
01:13:19,187 --> 01:13:22,087
- I could stand in the middle of
5th Avenue and shoot somebody

1496
01:13:22,121 --> 01:13:23,502
and I wouldn't lose any voters.

1497
01:13:23,537 --> 01:13:24,503
Okay?

1498
01:13:24,538 --> 01:13:26,540
[Audience] USA. USA.

1499
01:13:26,574 --> 01:13:28,783
- It's very effective
to slice the world up

1500
01:13:28,818 --> 01:13:31,786
and to pit everyone against
each other.

1501
01:13:31,821 --> 01:13:34,479
It's an effective
means for power.

1502
01:13:34,513 --> 01:13:37,205
- The country of Mexico
is killing us.

1503
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,071
The crime, and the gangs,
and the drugs.

1504
01:13:41,106 --> 01:13:41,934
[Group Chant] Build that wall.

1505
01:13:41,969 --> 01:13:43,108
Build that wall.

1506
01:13:43,142 --> 01:13:44,178
Build that wall.

1507
01:13:44,212 --> 01:13:49,114
- We're torn as SubGeniuses
because of course

1508
01:13:49,148 --> 01:13:53,946
a good portion of our
viewpoint is that

1509
01:13:53,981 --> 01:13:57,156
The Conspiracy is
out of control.

1510
01:13:58,226 --> 01:14:01,540
In fact, to our horror
each passing day,

1511
01:14:01,575 --> 01:14:04,681
the world seems more
and more SubGenius.

1512
01:14:04,716 --> 01:14:08,202
- I've got highly effective
all-natural weight loss aids-

1513
01:14:08,236 --> 01:14:09,928
[screaming and cheering]

1514
01:14:09,962 --> 01:14:13,828
- The great story here is this
vast right-wing conspiracy.

1515
01:14:13,863 --> 01:14:15,278
[Donald Trump] There are many
people that don't agree

1516
01:14:15,312 --> 01:14:16,555
with that birth certificate.

1517
01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:18,177
- I can't trust Obama.

1518
01:14:18,212 --> 01:14:19,903
He's an Arab.

1519
01:14:19,938 --> 01:14:21,111
He is not-

1520
01:14:21,146 --> 01:14:24,011
- Everybody is in their
own private Idaho.

1521
01:14:24,045 --> 01:14:25,840
Everybody's in their own bubble

1522
01:14:25,875 --> 01:14:28,705
and all they do is go
into a feedback loop

1523
01:14:28,740 --> 01:14:31,259
where they can get
things to reaffirm

1524
01:14:31,294 --> 01:14:32,916
what they already think.

1525
01:14:32,951 --> 01:14:35,229
- This administration is
trying to fool you

1526
01:14:35,263 --> 01:14:37,714
into believing that the news
the white house doesn't

1527
01:14:37,749 --> 01:14:39,267
really like, well, isn't news.

1528
01:14:39,302 --> 01:14:40,993
- Three million illegals voted.

1529
01:14:41,028 --> 01:14:42,926
- Where are you getting
your information?

1530
01:14:42,961 --> 01:14:45,584
- The Soviet Union has a
worldwide

1531
01:14:45,619 --> 01:14:47,828
disinformation network.

1532
01:14:47,862 --> 01:14:50,900
[Stang] They go to media
sites that incite them,

1533
01:14:50,934 --> 01:14:53,592
that make them paranoid
and worried

1534
01:14:53,627 --> 01:14:55,732
and fretful about the future.

1535
01:14:55,767 --> 01:14:58,148
- They can't control the amount
of rapes that are going on.

1536
01:14:58,183 --> 01:14:59,287
- Just because they're refugees
doesn't mean they're

1537
01:14:59,322 --> 01:15:00,599
fucking rapists.

1538
01:15:00,634 --> 01:15:02,739
- They're racist, sexist,
homophobic,

1539
01:15:02,774 --> 01:15:03,878
xenophobic.

1540
01:15:03,913 --> 01:15:05,639
- I am no racists.

1541
01:15:05,673 --> 01:15:07,192
- You're voting for
Donald Trump.

1542
01:15:07,226 --> 01:15:09,746
[Jerry Casale] None of them
are interested in breaking

1543
01:15:09,781 --> 01:15:13,854
out of the loop and realizing,
"Oh, I've been duped,

1544
01:15:13,888 --> 01:15:15,303
I've been programmed."

1545
01:15:15,338 --> 01:15:17,340
- Trump Derangement Syndrome,

1546
01:15:17,374 --> 01:15:20,067
hatred of Donald Trump
so intense that it

1547
01:15:20,101 --> 01:15:21,896
impairs people's judgment.

1548
01:15:22,828 --> 01:15:25,624
[Jerry Casale] Like if you
quit being real humans

1549
01:15:25,659 --> 01:15:28,593
and thinking for yourselves,
it's over.

1550
01:15:30,698 --> 01:15:33,943
[Donald Trump] This
is your country.

1551
01:15:35,945 --> 01:15:39,776
[Penn] I don't know
how you carve out

1552
01:15:39,811 --> 01:15:45,195
a place for that kind of
playful us and them

1553
01:15:45,230 --> 01:15:48,371
in a place where the news

1554
01:15:48,405 --> 01:15:51,132
is filling so many
of those roles.

1555
01:15:51,823 --> 01:15:54,273
That being said,

1556
01:15:54,308 --> 01:15:59,382
I also couldn't have thought
of the SubGenius in 1978,

1557
01:15:59,416 --> 01:16:03,628
so obviously they're
better at this than I am.

1558
01:16:05,008 --> 01:16:07,321
[Howland] There's always
going to be a conspiracy.

1559
01:16:07,355 --> 01:16:09,806
It can morph, it can change
and it can evolve

1560
01:16:09,841 --> 01:16:12,050
and so can the Church
of the SubGenius.

1561
01:16:12,084 --> 01:16:14,880
- We'll never fix the
government like,

1562
01:16:14,915 --> 01:16:17,020
we'll never get it to
where everyone is happy.

1563
01:16:17,055 --> 01:16:19,609
There will always be acrimony

1564
01:16:19,644 --> 01:16:23,337
and so we desperately
need comedy.

1565
01:16:23,371 --> 01:16:26,236
- Well, I think the best
thing we can do is

1566
01:16:26,271 --> 01:16:28,860
spread our message

1567
01:16:28,894 --> 01:16:34,313
and hope that it is useful
in the coming crisis,

1568
01:16:34,348 --> 01:16:38,145
which is descending
on the planet

1569
01:16:38,179 --> 01:16:40,803
and the human world
that inhabits it.

1570
01:17:02,445 --> 01:17:05,172
[Stang] For the last 20 years,
the only thing I had to do

1571
01:17:05,206 --> 01:17:07,070
to make my half of the
mortgage payments

1572
01:17:07,105 --> 01:17:10,833
is keep selling SubGenius
ministerships.

1573
01:17:12,041 --> 01:17:13,352
And it occurred to me,
wait a minute,

1574
01:17:13,387 --> 01:17:14,595
this isn't a bad gig at all.

1575
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:17,460
Once a month I have to sit here
and assemble these things.

1576
01:17:17,494 --> 01:17:21,326
Maybe spend half an hour a day
taking them to the post office?

1577
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,673
That's not bad.

1578
01:17:25,813 --> 01:17:28,713
People are still obviously
getting a lot out of it.

1579
01:17:29,161 --> 01:17:31,301
Just last week, I went
to the post office

1580
01:17:31,336 --> 01:17:35,340
and there was this envelope
there, postage due.

1581
01:17:35,374 --> 01:17:39,171
I had to fork out $2 and 45
cents just to find out

1582
01:17:39,206 --> 01:17:43,141
what was in this letter and it
had no return address on it.

1583
01:17:44,383 --> 01:17:46,972
The postal guy said, "Well,
I could just throw it away."

1584
01:17:47,007 --> 01:17:49,768
And I went, "Man, it's probably
a joke, but it better be funny."

1585
01:17:50,182 --> 01:17:51,908
I got home and opened it up.

1586
01:17:51,943 --> 01:17:55,809
It had $1,000 in $20 bills
in there

1587
01:17:55,843 --> 01:17:57,258
just out of the blue.

1588
01:17:58,121 --> 01:18:01,711
I immediately took half of it to
a sick person that I know

1589
01:18:01,746 --> 01:18:03,955
who cried with gratitude.

1590
01:18:04,818 --> 01:18:07,268
It's like, no, we're not
crazy to keep doing this.

1591
01:18:07,993 --> 01:18:12,342
It really does come along at
the right time for some people.

1592
01:18:12,377 --> 01:18:14,379
[cars passing]

1593
01:18:21,386 --> 01:18:23,388
[cars passing]

1594
01:18:32,121 --> 01:18:33,329
- Palmer,

1595
01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:35,711
Palmer,

1596
01:18:36,125 --> 01:18:37,367
what happened to Philo?

1597
01:18:37,402 --> 01:18:38,265
- He's hiding.

1598
01:18:38,299 --> 01:18:39,473
- Oh.

1599
01:18:39,507 --> 01:18:41,475
You guys look awful,

1600
01:18:41,509 --> 01:18:43,442
but a lot better
than I expected.

1601
01:18:43,477 --> 01:18:44,961
Ay yi yi yi yi.

1602
01:18:45,375 --> 01:18:46,342
Praise Bob.

1603
01:18:46,376 --> 01:18:48,102
Welcome to Austin.

1604
01:18:51,416 --> 01:18:53,349
[Philo] This is sort of
like a booze quest.

1605
01:18:55,420 --> 01:18:57,422
Uh-oh, another human blockade.

1606
01:18:59,389 --> 01:19:01,081
Look, there's something.

1607
01:19:01,115 --> 01:19:02,807
There's a mermaid woman.

1608
01:19:03,497 --> 01:19:04,567
A mer-woman.

1609
01:19:04,601 --> 01:19:07,984
- That's you, once you get
your shirt off, honey.

1610
01:19:08,019 --> 01:19:09,883
[Philo] Oh, I thought it
was for real.

1611
01:19:09,917 --> 01:19:11,194
- You first-
- This is just a sad-

1612
01:19:11,229 --> 01:19:13,058
- I bet you if you take
your clothes off,

1613
01:19:13,093 --> 01:19:14,197
everybody here will follow you.

1614
01:19:14,232 --> 01:19:15,578
[Philo] This is just a
sad, sad joke.

1615
01:19:15,612 --> 01:19:16,821
- Do it.
- No, no.

1616
01:19:16,855 --> 01:19:19,099
- If you took your clothes off
and I'll bet you anything-

1617
01:19:19,133 --> 01:19:20,410
[Philo] I'm not a leader.

1618
01:19:20,445 --> 01:19:21,964
I'm just a fast follower.

1619
01:19:21,998 --> 01:19:24,449
- If you were to do that.

1620
01:19:24,483 --> 01:19:25,484
- I'm the second guy in.

1621
01:19:25,519 --> 01:19:29,143
- She'd be next, and then her,
and then her...

1622
01:19:29,178 --> 01:19:32,077
To me it's always been play.

1623
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,011
You go to a SubGenius show,

1624
01:19:35,046 --> 01:19:37,565
they're not waving their
arms in anger.

1625
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,465
They might be pretending to,

1626
01:19:40,499 --> 01:19:43,157
but that's the main
thing you get,

1627
01:19:43,192 --> 01:19:44,400
is laughter.

1628
01:19:46,989 --> 01:19:49,405
[Philo] We're still
just playing.

1629
01:19:50,164 --> 01:19:53,616
- This is Philo and I'm Ivan.

1630
01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:55,307
- Tony, this is Reverend Stang.

1631
01:19:55,342 --> 01:19:56,826
- Yeah, I'm a reverend.

1632
01:19:56,861 --> 01:19:58,552
- We're cult leaders is
what we really are.

1633
01:19:58,586 --> 01:20:01,003
Our real job is to
be cult leaders.

1634
01:20:01,037 --> 01:20:03,384
[Stang] There you go,
these'll take you like a

1635
01:20:03,419 --> 01:20:05,352
week and a half to read.

1636
01:20:05,386 --> 01:20:08,217
It's called Church
of the SubGenius.

1637
01:20:08,251 --> 01:20:11,496
If you're not a genius,
you'd probably qualify.

1638
01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:15,949
- If you feel different and
you feel oppressed by

1639
01:20:15,983 --> 01:20:20,436
society's imposition of
normalcy on you,

1640
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:22,058
you don't have to be that way.

1641
01:20:22,093 --> 01:20:24,509
You could be the person
that you want to be.

1642
01:20:26,649 --> 01:20:29,100
We know that we think for
ourselves,

1643
01:20:29,134 --> 01:20:32,966
and that's more important
than you thinking like me.

1644
01:20:59,130 --> 01:21:00,959
[Stang] Test, test, test.

1645
01:21:00,994 --> 01:21:01,891
[Sound Crew] Okay.

1646
01:21:01,926 --> 01:21:04,031
- It was the night
62 million assholes

1647
01:21:04,066 --> 01:21:07,517
scraped rat feces into their
exposed skull cavities

1648
01:21:07,552 --> 01:21:10,106
with a rusty butter knife.

1649
01:21:10,141 --> 01:21:13,144
Everyone agreed that change
was needed to make America

1650
01:21:13,178 --> 01:21:16,423
great again, and it didn't much
matter that we'd soon be having

1651
01:21:16,457 --> 01:21:19,978
our urethras board out with a
high speed electric drill,

1652
01:21:20,013 --> 01:21:23,223
at least until the Ku Klux Klan
settled in and got comfortable

1653
01:21:23,257 --> 01:21:25,466
over at the Justice Department.

1654
01:21:25,673 --> 01:21:29,367
Every week when the baboons came
down from Oatmeal Ridge,

1655
01:21:29,401 --> 01:21:32,197
they'd all circle around
the plasma TV to watch

1656
01:21:32,232 --> 01:21:34,372
Fox and Friends.

1657
01:21:34,406 --> 01:21:37,030
Now that the judicial branch
was well-stocked with

1658
01:21:37,064 --> 01:21:40,136
white nationalists, they didn't
have to worry so much about the

1659
01:21:40,171 --> 01:21:44,451
colored folk or the multi-dicked
Mexican rape demons.

1660
01:21:44,485 --> 01:21:48,351
Best of all, there'd still be
plenty of sports to watch

1661
01:21:48,386 --> 01:21:50,491
and everyone loved all the
choices of the

1662
01:21:50,526 --> 01:21:52,528
Applebee's salad bar.

1663
01:21:54,047 --> 01:21:54,910
The end.

1664
01:21:54,944 --> 01:21:56,325
Now it's time for
you kids get bed.

1665
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:57,636
Nighty night.

1666
01:22:00,674 --> 01:22:05,058
[Radio Crew] Five,
four, three, two.

1667
01:22:06,369 --> 01:22:08,095
- It's bubbling-

1668
01:22:08,130 --> 01:22:09,234
- Bubbling Evidence?

1669
01:22:09,269 --> 01:22:10,235
- Yes.

1670
01:22:10,270 --> 01:22:12,237
- But I think it's Bubbling
Evidence, yeah.

1671
01:22:12,272 --> 01:22:14,136
Yeah, I'm not sure what the
name of the show is.

1672
01:22:14,170 --> 01:22:16,310
- It's Puddling Effluence.
- Questionable Judgment.

1673
01:22:16,345 --> 01:22:18,140
I think it's
Questionable Judgment.

1674
01:22:18,174 --> 01:22:20,452
- Questionable Judgment,
that's for sure.

1675
01:22:20,487 --> 01:22:21,177
That's a description.

1676
01:22:21,212 --> 01:22:22,696
That's the abstract of the show.

1677
01:22:22,730 --> 01:22:25,216
- Bishop Joey
is here with us.

1678
01:22:25,250 --> 01:22:26,286
- Yeah, he is.

1679
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,528
- Tonight on the show.

1680
01:22:27,563 --> 01:22:30,704
- Well Bishop Joey, what is your
church's version of Slack?

1681
01:22:30,738 --> 01:22:32,016
- Most of us wear clothes.

1682
01:22:40,024 --> 01:22:41,128
- We already did that.

1683
01:22:41,163 --> 01:22:43,475
Our church did that long ago
with the all-inclusive

1684
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:44,338
divine excuse.

1685
01:22:44,373 --> 01:22:46,168
That's the first
thing we gave them.

1686
01:22:46,202 --> 01:22:48,653
You just need an excuse that
excuses you for anything

1687
01:22:48,687 --> 01:22:50,413
that may have happened
or might happen at

1688
01:22:50,448 --> 01:22:56,143
any time in the future.

1689
01:22:56,178 --> 01:23:01,045
♪ Is it true what they
say about Bob? ♪

1690
01:23:01,424 --> 01:23:05,739
♪ That when you have Bob
life's no prob? ♪

1691
01:23:06,671 --> 01:23:09,156
♪ He'll give you Slack

1692
01:23:09,191 --> 01:23:12,021
♪ And more sex than
you can hack. ♪

1693
01:23:12,056 --> 01:23:16,094
♪ Oh, life's a bowl of
cherries with Bob Dobbs. ♪

1694
01:23:16,612 --> 01:23:20,996
♪ Is it true what
they say about Bob? ♪

1695
01:23:21,375 --> 01:23:25,310
♪ That when you have Bob
life's no prob? ♪

1696
01:23:25,828 --> 01:23:28,451
♪ If you want drugs, then
he will give you God's. ♪

1697
01:23:31,178 --> 01:23:35,113
♪ Oh life's a bowl of
cherries with Bob Dobbs. ♪

1698
01:23:35,596 --> 01:23:40,118
♪ Is it true what
they say about Bob? ♪

1699
01:23:40,463 --> 01:23:45,054
♪ That when you have Bob
life's no prob? ♪

1700
01:23:45,365 --> 01:23:47,746
♪ Send a dollar and a letter

1701
01:23:47,781 --> 01:23:51,233
♪ And you'll feel, oh,
so much better. ♪

1702
01:23:51,267 --> 01:23:53,338
♪ Life's a bowl of
cherries with, ♪

1703
01:23:53,373 --> 01:23:55,547
♪ And life's a bowl
of cherries with, ♪

1704
01:23:55,582 --> 01:24:00,587
♪ Oh life's a bowl of
cherries with Bob Dobbs. ♪



