1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:42,870 --> 00:00:45,631 Alright, alright, alright, shut up! 4 00:00:45,666 --> 00:00:47,150 Shut up! 5 00:00:47,875 --> 00:00:49,601 Shut your goddamn mouth, 6 00:00:49,635 --> 00:00:52,052 and let me make a piece of my mind. 7 00:00:53,708 --> 00:00:54,882 Alright! 8 00:00:54,916 --> 00:00:57,885 Everybody that likes to rape women, 9 00:00:57,919 --> 00:00:59,887 say, "Sieg Heil!" 10 00:00:59,921 --> 00:01:01,992 Sieg Heil! 11 00:01:18,043 --> 00:01:19,079 What are we doing? 12 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:21,253 We... 13 00:03:00,041 --> 00:03:01,284 Yeah! 14 00:03:14,987 --> 00:03:16,334 What's up? 15 00:03:16,368 --> 00:03:18,370 Huh? I guess we're going home. 16 00:03:22,098 --> 00:03:24,065 I'm trying to bring peace to this world. 17 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:25,653 I hope you guys are happy. 18 00:03:31,314 --> 00:03:33,178 It's real stoked. 19 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:35,215 Peace! Love! Whatever... 20 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,218 - No it doesn't. - It happens all the time. 21 00:03:43,809 --> 00:03:45,949 It's good shit, man. 22 00:04:04,036 --> 00:04:05,797 We are going to keep on 23 00:04:05,831 --> 00:04:08,938 trying to strengthen the American family 24 00:04:08,972 --> 00:04:12,148 to make American families a lot more like the Waltons 25 00:04:12,182 --> 00:04:14,184 and a lot less like the Simpsons. 26 00:04:41,211 --> 00:04:43,317 If you believe in free speech, 27 00:04:43,352 --> 00:04:45,319 people have the right to burn a cross 28 00:04:45,354 --> 00:04:47,563 people have a right to burn the flag. 29 00:04:47,597 --> 00:04:50,082 It's offending people, and it's offending somebody's religion 30 00:04:50,117 --> 00:04:52,084 or offending somebody's love of country. What's the difference? 31 00:04:52,119 --> 00:04:54,052 You offend people every day. Should you go to jail? 32 00:05:21,286 --> 00:05:24,289 I wanna take the president, 33 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:28,604 chop off his head, and mail it to them in a garbage bag. 34 00:06:10,749 --> 00:06:12,613 Jerry! Jerry! 35 00:06:12,648 --> 00:06:15,064 - Jerry! Jerry! - Thank you very much! 36 00:06:15,098 --> 00:06:17,066 'And now, here he is, 37 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:19,309 'the conservative voice of television, 38 00:06:19,344 --> 00:06:21,760 'Wally George!' 39 00:06:24,694 --> 00:06:28,215 Today we're gonna take a look into the world of shock rock, 40 00:06:28,249 --> 00:06:31,736 rock music that is violent, scary, and even perverse. 41 00:06:31,770 --> 00:06:34,428 We have one of the most disgusting perverts 42 00:06:34,463 --> 00:06:36,672 I've ever seen in my whole life on the show here. 43 00:06:45,025 --> 00:06:47,268 Here is El Duce. 44 00:06:51,756 --> 00:06:53,447 Hold on! 45 00:06:53,482 --> 00:06:55,691 Hey, hold it! 46 00:06:55,725 --> 00:06:58,452 How do you describe your music? 47 00:06:58,487 --> 00:06:59,695 Well, it's rape rock. 48 00:06:59,729 --> 00:07:02,905 - "Rape rock"! 49 00:07:02,939 --> 00:07:05,459 You know, I wanna be polite to anyone who comes on our show, 50 00:07:05,494 --> 00:07:09,912 but I gotta say, when I hear that you promote rape, 51 00:07:09,946 --> 00:07:12,224 that is not only thoroughly disgusting, 52 00:07:12,259 --> 00:07:14,675 but it can't possibly be viewed as entertainment. 53 00:07:18,610 --> 00:07:19,991 Well, it is to me. 54 00:07:36,732 --> 00:07:38,734 Duce! 55 00:08:22,571 --> 00:08:23,882 I have two sons, 56 00:08:23,917 --> 00:08:26,367 a sixteen-year-old who's sitting in the audience now, 57 00:08:26,402 --> 00:08:27,541 an a ten-year-old, 58 00:08:27,576 --> 00:08:30,717 and I try to teach my sons how to be respectful, 59 00:08:30,751 --> 00:08:33,685 and that sodomizing people... 60 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,792 Do you realize that Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible 61 00:08:36,826 --> 00:08:39,726 was destroyed by God because that was wrong? 62 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,555 Do you realize that? 63 00:08:42,142 --> 00:08:43,453 I like music, 64 00:08:43,488 --> 00:08:46,629 but I do not like things that promote violence against people. 65 00:08:46,664 --> 00:08:48,769 Let me ask you something. When were you raped? 66 00:08:48,804 --> 00:08:51,323 I was raped in '70. 67 00:08:51,358 --> 00:08:53,187 You look kind of familiar, I have to say. 68 00:08:53,222 --> 00:08:56,052 - No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 69 00:08:56,605 --> 00:08:57,916 Sorry. 70 00:08:57,951 --> 00:09:00,850 That's just... That's just plain disrespectful. 71 00:09:00,885 --> 00:09:03,163 - I mean, that's not... - He doesn't know any better. 72 00:09:03,197 --> 00:09:05,165 That's not a point of view. 73 00:09:09,238 --> 00:09:11,654 Oh, Wally! 74 00:09:11,689 --> 00:09:14,761 You shouldn't have the right to be on any stage 75 00:09:14,795 --> 00:09:17,108 or any radio station in the United States of America. 76 00:09:20,732 --> 00:09:23,804 And now, here they are: Gwar. 77 00:09:26,842 --> 00:09:28,533 - Uh, you like Gwar, huh? - Yes. 78 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:34,574 Is it OK that some of the message, let's say, is violent? 79 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:36,299 - Would that be OK? - Yes. 80 00:09:36,334 --> 00:09:37,542 That's OK? 81 00:10:07,261 --> 00:10:09,470 Well, um, obviously... 82 00:10:09,505 --> 00:10:11,541 I think, yeah, ours is simulated. 83 00:10:11,576 --> 00:10:12,646 And theirs is real! 84 00:10:12,681 --> 00:10:14,268 - One time... - When he's on the sauce! 85 00:10:14,303 --> 00:10:15,684 When he's on the sauce! 86 00:10:15,718 --> 00:10:18,376 One time, we had the misfortune 87 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:19,653 of taking El Duce... 88 00:10:19,688 --> 00:10:21,034 Being on bus with him is horrible. 89 00:10:21,068 --> 00:10:22,829 ...from New York City... 90 00:10:22,863 --> 00:10:24,831 The whole band, the whole band... 91 00:10:24,865 --> 00:10:29,249 There's sixteen of us, and all of them in our bus. 92 00:10:29,283 --> 00:10:31,665 It was like... no room at all to do anything. 93 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:33,667 We were taking him from New York City to Richmond. 94 00:10:33,702 --> 00:10:36,014 He had this punching balloon like kids play with. 95 00:10:36,049 --> 00:10:37,188 He kept whacking it. 96 00:10:37,222 --> 00:10:38,672 First, he started spitting on it, 97 00:10:38,707 --> 00:10:40,467 like, licking big loogies on it, 98 00:10:40,501 --> 00:10:42,193 and then he'd go, boogey-boogey-boogey... 99 00:10:42,227 --> 00:10:44,644 so it splashed everywhere. 100 00:10:44,678 --> 00:10:45,955 - Yeah. - But then... 101 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:48,268 - But then... - He peed on it. 102 00:10:48,302 --> 00:10:50,166 And he was, like, running around the bus, 103 00:10:50,201 --> 00:10:51,789 going tk-uh-tk-uh-tk-uh... 104 00:10:51,823 --> 00:10:53,929 into people's face with this pee balloon. 105 00:10:55,102 --> 00:10:57,242 He gets on stage, 106 00:10:57,277 --> 00:10:59,244 pulls his pants down, 107 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:02,800 pulls his dick out, and starts flopping it around and stuff, 108 00:11:02,834 --> 00:11:07,183 and then some super sick gross slut 109 00:11:07,218 --> 00:11:10,635 runs out on stage and starts sucking him off 110 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:13,120 in front of the whole audience. 111 00:11:13,155 --> 00:11:15,398 - And... - Gross! 112 00:11:15,433 --> 00:11:16,710 Eurgh! 113 00:11:16,745 --> 00:11:18,919 In front of the whole fucking audience! 114 00:11:18,954 --> 00:11:23,130 And the bouncers didn't do a goddamn thing. 115 00:11:23,165 --> 00:11:25,132 OK, this is because.. 116 00:11:25,167 --> 00:11:28,101 He's one of the weirdest guys I know, man. 117 00:11:28,135 --> 00:11:29,240 I like him. 118 00:11:29,274 --> 00:11:32,139 I like him, because he's always nice to me. 119 00:11:32,174 --> 00:11:33,693 He always is nice to me, 120 00:11:33,727 --> 00:11:36,350 but I really... 121 00:11:36,385 --> 00:11:38,387 You know, it does bother me a little bit, 122 00:11:38,421 --> 00:11:39,629 the way he treats women. 123 00:11:39,664 --> 00:11:41,010 Very early on, 124 00:11:41,045 --> 00:11:44,117 he started referring to the band as "rape rock", which I... 125 00:11:44,151 --> 00:11:46,567 If you asked me earlier, was there anything, 126 00:11:46,602 --> 00:11:48,742 any song or anything that really, uh... 127 00:11:48,777 --> 00:11:50,226 I thought was going a little too far, 128 00:11:50,261 --> 00:11:51,607 when he first came out with that, 129 00:11:51,641 --> 00:11:54,265 I thought that was going a little too far. 130 00:11:54,299 --> 00:11:57,164 Personally, I'm not in favor of rape, you know, 131 00:11:57,199 --> 00:11:59,132 I think it's hideous, and uh... 132 00:12:00,823 --> 00:12:04,068 So, to that extent, I think that's going a little too far, 133 00:12:04,102 --> 00:12:06,173 but again, that's his personal vision. 134 00:12:37,584 --> 00:12:40,069 What kind of people go to your gigs? 135 00:12:40,104 --> 00:12:42,554 Uh, we get sort of a broad mix, you know, 136 00:12:42,589 --> 00:12:45,454 we get a lot of your kind of nihilistic punkers 137 00:12:45,488 --> 00:12:47,249 and some of your intellectuals. 138 00:12:47,283 --> 00:12:49,354 What do you think of your brother? 139 00:12:49,389 --> 00:12:50,597 I think he's rocking. 140 00:12:50,631 --> 00:12:52,012 Is he? 141 00:12:52,979 --> 00:12:55,291 - He's a real man. - Yeah. 142 00:12:55,326 --> 00:12:56,914 El Duce, your brother, is a real man? 143 00:12:56,948 --> 00:12:59,364 - He's a real Aryan man. - Yeah! 144 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:01,159 Yeah! Sieg Heil! 145 00:13:15,518 --> 00:13:17,727 So El Duce is, um... 146 00:13:19,384 --> 00:13:21,214 Do El Duce's lyrics offend you? 147 00:13:22,871 --> 00:13:23,975 No, not really. 148 00:13:24,010 --> 00:13:28,221 The one song, "On The Rag", kind of... 149 00:13:28,255 --> 00:13:31,155 "When I'm On The Rag", that bothers me. 150 00:13:31,189 --> 00:13:33,295 But... 151 00:13:33,329 --> 00:13:35,676 Do you think he is serious about his lyrics, 152 00:13:35,711 --> 00:13:39,957 or do you think he's kind of just trying to have a laugh? 153 00:13:39,991 --> 00:13:41,337 I think a little of both. 154 00:13:41,372 --> 00:13:44,754 I don't know which more, you know, 155 00:13:44,789 --> 00:13:46,687 which one is more... 156 00:13:47,550 --> 00:13:48,828 But... 157 00:13:49,932 --> 00:13:51,900 Does he ever scare you? 158 00:13:53,453 --> 00:13:55,524 No. 159 00:13:55,558 --> 00:13:58,803 He's... you know, he's pretty nice, you know... 160 00:14:01,564 --> 00:14:04,947 for being a Mentor, you know. 161 00:14:04,982 --> 00:14:08,640 Where do you think he gets his ideas for lyrics? 162 00:14:09,607 --> 00:14:10,953 Mm... 163 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:15,406 From um... 164 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,823 what he's seen other people cringe about. 165 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,584 Like a few... 166 00:14:21,619 --> 00:14:23,759 He loves to see people cringe. 167 00:14:23,793 --> 00:14:25,657 Even once or twice I think they picketed, 168 00:14:25,692 --> 00:14:27,487 feminist groups have picketed the man. 169 00:14:27,521 --> 00:14:29,144 Rape rock is not a joke! 170 00:14:29,178 --> 00:14:30,628 Rape rock is not a joke! 171 00:14:30,662 --> 00:14:32,181 What do you think of the demonstration 172 00:14:32,216 --> 00:14:34,252 that's going on outside? 173 00:14:34,287 --> 00:14:35,736 I think it's great. 174 00:14:35,771 --> 00:14:38,981 'Ted Weatherhead, CBC News, Winnipeg.' 175 00:14:39,016 --> 00:14:41,604 You know, a lot of girls trip out about it, but... 176 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:44,849 you know, they shouldn't take that all so seriously. 177 00:14:46,609 --> 00:14:48,680 Do you think it's clever? 178 00:14:48,715 --> 00:14:49,923 Yeah. 179 00:14:49,958 --> 00:14:52,512 Yeah, the way they come up with these ideas. 180 00:14:52,546 --> 00:14:55,308 It's pretty perverted, but, you know... 181 00:14:56,481 --> 00:14:59,553 It's really funny that they think of these things. 182 00:15:43,045 --> 00:15:45,979 I figure, you know, El Duce is his own man. 183 00:15:46,014 --> 00:15:48,602 He's, uh... In his own way he's a genius 184 00:15:48,637 --> 00:15:50,708 and a great comedian and a great musician. 185 00:15:50,742 --> 00:15:53,676 So I don't want to attempt 186 00:15:53,711 --> 00:15:57,991 to put his point of view through my filter. 187 00:15:58,026 --> 00:16:00,752 You know, I'm content to play my part with the music 188 00:16:00,787 --> 00:16:05,930 and whatever he comes up with in terms of his lyrics, uh... 189 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:08,415 You know, I'm a great El Duce fan, 190 00:16:08,450 --> 00:16:09,796 just from being in the band, 191 00:16:09,830 --> 00:16:13,420 it's great to watch him come up with new lyrics and funny lines. 192 00:16:13,455 --> 00:16:15,802 So I would consider myself 193 00:16:15,836 --> 00:16:17,977 probably one of the greatest connoisseurs of what he does, 194 00:16:18,011 --> 00:16:20,151 and I'm able - at least I think I am - 195 00:16:20,186 --> 00:16:23,568 to recognize a good El Duce performance from a bad one. 196 00:16:23,603 --> 00:16:26,295 I think to a certain extent, he's, like, a great artist 197 00:16:26,330 --> 00:16:28,884 in that he doesn't really give a damn what people think of him. 198 00:16:28,918 --> 00:16:32,474 You know, if you look at a Van Gogh or something like that, 199 00:16:32,508 --> 00:16:35,856 these guys are so far out in their own thing... 200 00:16:35,891 --> 00:16:38,031 they're just doing what they're doing, 201 00:16:38,066 --> 00:16:39,757 they're on the auto pilot. 202 00:16:39,791 --> 00:16:41,379 And I think he's on auto pilot. 203 00:16:41,414 --> 00:16:46,936 He's not calculating anything in minute details. 204 00:16:46,971 --> 00:16:49,870 He's not saying, "I'm going to sing this particular line 205 00:16:49,905 --> 00:16:53,253 "cos I think this is going to make the biggest impact." 206 00:16:53,288 --> 00:16:57,085 I think he's going to do what he... 207 00:16:57,119 --> 00:16:58,500 what comes naturally. 208 00:16:58,534 --> 00:17:01,158 It's a legitimate expression of his own psyche. 209 00:17:03,332 --> 00:17:04,851 Um... 210 00:17:04,885 --> 00:17:07,474 That's kind of a tough one, 211 00:17:07,509 --> 00:17:09,373 I guess maybe "Free Fix For A Fuck" 212 00:17:09,407 --> 00:17:10,891 is a big favorite of mine. 213 00:17:35,399 --> 00:17:36,848 The lyrics that sort of 214 00:17:36,883 --> 00:17:38,885 pictorialized abuse to women and all that 215 00:17:38,919 --> 00:17:40,956 doesn't bother you? 216 00:17:40,990 --> 00:17:47,376 Well, I like the "Straight Out Of Compton" NWA tape, too. 217 00:17:47,411 --> 00:17:49,896 I heard that and I ran down and bought it. 218 00:17:49,930 --> 00:17:55,108 It's talking about stuff that is in some people's heads. 219 00:17:55,143 --> 00:17:57,317 He'll bring it out. Like... 220 00:17:57,352 --> 00:17:59,319 If El and them... 221 00:17:59,354 --> 00:18:01,632 If they were just running around raping chicks 222 00:18:01,666 --> 00:18:03,910 that didn't want to be raped and doing all this shit, 223 00:18:03,944 --> 00:18:06,706 if NWA was out gangbanging, 224 00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:08,604 I wouldn't be into their music. 225 00:18:08,639 --> 00:18:11,642 But they're musicians, they're not into that stuff at all. 226 00:18:11,676 --> 00:18:13,609 You know, they're just talking about a reflection 227 00:18:13,644 --> 00:18:17,372 of part of the human condition. 228 00:18:18,718 --> 00:18:21,686 And El has just... He has such a humorous twist to it, 229 00:18:21,721 --> 00:18:23,895 nobody could take it offensively. 230 00:18:26,001 --> 00:18:28,590 Turn on the camera, I'm ready to rock. 231 00:18:30,385 --> 00:18:33,422 You better have that camera on there, Ryan. 232 00:18:33,457 --> 00:18:35,079 Is that right? 233 00:18:37,737 --> 00:18:39,359 Does this light work? 234 00:18:40,429 --> 00:18:42,121 Yeah. 235 00:18:45,054 --> 00:18:46,539 Peaceful rape. 236 00:18:46,573 --> 00:18:48,541 What's peaceful rape? 237 00:18:48,575 --> 00:18:51,164 That's when you knock a broad out on... 238 00:18:51,199 --> 00:18:53,546 Thorazine, 239 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,860 maybe some, um... 240 00:19:00,829 --> 00:19:02,210 'ludes. 241 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:06,179 So you don't believe in, uh... 242 00:19:06,214 --> 00:19:08,319 No, no, let me finish. 243 00:19:09,217 --> 00:19:11,184 Then hypnotism. 244 00:19:12,806 --> 00:19:14,498 Babe... 245 00:19:17,742 --> 00:19:19,503 take your bra off. 246 00:19:21,746 --> 00:19:23,576 Slut. 247 00:19:26,855 --> 00:19:28,788 Peel your panties off. 248 00:19:37,486 --> 00:19:39,419 Your clitoris here. 249 00:19:40,972 --> 00:19:42,836 Lock them legs. 250 00:20:05,721 --> 00:20:07,413 Uh! Uh! Mm... 251 00:20:10,692 --> 00:20:13,039 Ah! Swallow it. 252 00:20:16,767 --> 00:20:18,562 It's as easy as that. 253 00:20:20,046 --> 00:20:21,737 Heil Hitler. 254 00:20:28,434 --> 00:20:29,435 Mm! 255 00:20:29,469 --> 00:20:34,543 Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm... Mm! 256 00:20:34,578 --> 00:20:35,751 Mm! 257 00:20:35,786 --> 00:20:37,166 Mm! 258 00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:45,520 Have you always drank for relaxation? 259 00:20:47,970 --> 00:20:49,972 I've been an alcoholic all my life. 260 00:20:50,007 --> 00:20:52,975 I stole my first beer from my dad. 261 00:20:53,010 --> 00:20:56,013 - El Duce likes to drink a lot. - Yeah. 262 00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:57,635 He says he has an alcohol problem. 263 00:20:57,670 --> 00:21:00,466 Yeah he's a full-on alcoholic. 264 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:05,712 El Duce when he's sober is a really nice guy, 265 00:21:05,747 --> 00:21:07,266 when he's drunk he's horrible. 266 00:21:08,577 --> 00:21:12,063 That way I know that only I can drink it. 267 00:21:12,098 --> 00:21:14,963 Anybody who drinks it, drinks my spit. 268 00:21:14,997 --> 00:21:16,965 El Duce drinks a lot when he's around you? 269 00:21:16,999 --> 00:21:18,380 Yeah. 270 00:21:18,415 --> 00:21:20,175 He probably drinks a lot when he's not around you. 271 00:21:20,209 --> 00:21:21,556 Yeah. 272 00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:24,248 Is that a problem for you? 273 00:21:25,491 --> 00:21:30,219 Sometimes when he's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. 274 00:21:32,118 --> 00:21:34,396 What do you think of El as a human being? 275 00:21:34,431 --> 00:21:38,814 Well, see, personally I'm really fond of him, and... 276 00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:42,853 I don't know, 277 00:21:42,887 --> 00:21:45,752 part of it is because we worked at the Ivar Theater together 278 00:21:45,787 --> 00:21:48,134 for a long time, We have memories... 279 00:21:48,168 --> 00:21:51,482 you know, about all the shit that went down there. 280 00:21:51,517 --> 00:21:53,622 You also are the Master of Ceremonies 281 00:21:53,657 --> 00:21:56,798 at one of the grimiest places I know of in Hollywood, 282 00:21:56,832 --> 00:22:01,181 the Ivar Theater, which features naked dancers. 283 00:22:03,943 --> 00:22:06,808 You worked at the Ivar Theater? 284 00:22:06,842 --> 00:22:07,809 Yeah. 285 00:22:07,843 --> 00:22:09,328 Is that the best job you ever had? 286 00:22:09,362 --> 00:22:10,708 Yeah. 287 00:22:10,743 --> 00:22:12,503 I worked there for about eight years, 288 00:22:12,538 --> 00:22:15,299 I got to run the spot light 289 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,888 and play the girls cassette tapes 290 00:22:17,922 --> 00:22:20,994 and play the porno movies and announce the girls, 291 00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:23,790 all up in the light booth. 292 00:22:25,136 --> 00:22:27,794 Yeah, he was the light man at the Ivar. 293 00:22:29,037 --> 00:22:30,003 Yeah. 294 00:22:30,038 --> 00:22:32,005 So, he brought Steve by? 295 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,146 No, actually he wanted me to go dance, do a show 296 00:22:35,181 --> 00:22:38,840 cos the chicks he had doing his show... 297 00:22:39,979 --> 00:22:42,222 were flaking out. 298 00:22:42,257 --> 00:22:43,465 And I'd listened to his music, 299 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:45,156 I thought his music was really good, 300 00:22:45,191 --> 00:22:48,470 but that wasn't my scene, I wasn't into going. 301 00:22:48,505 --> 00:22:51,128 But my girlfriend Zylmar says, 302 00:22:51,162 --> 00:22:54,925 "Yeah let's go, let's go." So I said, "OK." 303 00:22:54,959 --> 00:22:58,446 And then when I started meeting these other guys, you know. 304 00:22:59,101 --> 00:23:00,068 Yes. 305 00:23:00,102 --> 00:23:02,829 Yes. I'm stripper at the Ivar Theater, 306 00:23:02,864 --> 00:23:05,314 and I'm damn proud of it, too! 307 00:23:05,349 --> 00:23:07,075 Right on, Duce! 308 00:23:37,036 --> 00:23:40,211 Hey, all you sluts out there, 309 00:23:40,246 --> 00:23:41,972 are tired of hanging out 310 00:23:42,006 --> 00:23:45,907 with a bunch of low-life glam rock fags? 311 00:23:46,804 --> 00:23:48,461 Why don't you go for a real man, 312 00:23:48,496 --> 00:23:51,395 a booze-guzzling, porno-reading man? 313 00:23:52,603 --> 00:23:57,228 Just enter the Mentors Dream Date Contest, 314 00:23:57,263 --> 00:24:01,474 and you can win a good date with me, El Duce. 315 00:24:02,820 --> 00:24:06,479 Do what they're doing in these dirty magazines with me, baby. 316 00:24:06,514 --> 00:24:09,827 How long have you been El Duce's girlfriend? 317 00:24:09,862 --> 00:24:11,450 Um... 318 00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:14,936 About six weeks. 319 00:24:16,351 --> 00:24:18,318 So, how did you run into him? 320 00:24:19,354 --> 00:24:22,115 The first time that I met him, 321 00:24:22,150 --> 00:24:24,324 just hanging out in Hollywood, 322 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,674 just hanging out drinking, trashing. 323 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:31,711 Do you remember the first time you met him? 324 00:24:31,746 --> 00:24:33,989 Yeah. Yeah, I remember. 325 00:24:34,024 --> 00:24:35,474 Saw him on the street. 326 00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:36,923 It was him and a couple of his friends, 327 00:24:36,958 --> 00:24:38,615 and I was the only girl there, 328 00:24:38,649 --> 00:24:41,687 and they wanted to not hang out in Hollywood drinking, 329 00:24:41,721 --> 00:24:42,791 cos of the cops, 330 00:24:42,826 --> 00:24:44,931 and they wanted to go to this one place. 331 00:24:44,966 --> 00:24:46,001 First I was up for it, 332 00:24:46,036 --> 00:24:49,660 and then I started thinking, "This is El Duce. 333 00:24:49,695 --> 00:24:51,490 "There's three guys and just one of me." 334 00:24:51,524 --> 00:24:53,906 And I just kind of blew them off. 335 00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:56,771 I was like, "I forgot I got something to do." 336 00:24:56,805 --> 00:24:59,256 You know, I thought something would happen. 337 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:01,223 What did you hear about him? 338 00:25:02,328 --> 00:25:05,331 Oh, a lot of stories. 339 00:25:05,365 --> 00:25:08,299 You know, El Duce stories, his reputation. 340 00:25:09,473 --> 00:25:11,786 - Like what? - About... 341 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:13,581 About being a big pervert 342 00:25:13,615 --> 00:25:17,446 and stuff he does to girls and stuff. 343 00:25:17,481 --> 00:25:18,724 You know, cos this guy said, 344 00:25:18,758 --> 00:25:21,658 "Oh, he'll piss all over you, he'll rape you," 345 00:25:21,692 --> 00:25:23,936 this and that, you know, and I was kind of scared of him. 346 00:25:25,351 --> 00:25:28,803 Do a lot of girls come on to El Duce at the concerts? 347 00:25:30,252 --> 00:25:31,737 Enough do. 348 00:25:32,841 --> 00:25:34,947 Yeah, I... 349 00:25:34,981 --> 00:25:38,364 I think one is enough, you know, too much. 350 00:25:38,398 --> 00:25:39,814 Duce say anything to 'em? 351 00:25:39,848 --> 00:25:41,712 Oh, yeah, he loves it. 352 00:25:42,402 --> 00:25:44,266 Does he treat you nicely? 353 00:25:44,301 --> 00:25:46,855 Yeah, he treats me pretty good. 354 00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:52,205 How did you all get together as Mentors? 355 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,484 Well, The Mentors got together in Seattle, 356 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,486 and we've been childhood friends. 357 00:25:57,521 --> 00:26:02,353 I've known El Duce since we were in 4th grade. 358 00:26:02,388 --> 00:26:04,563 We went to the same elementary school together, 359 00:26:04,597 --> 00:26:09,084 and then I met Sickie when we were in 7th grade. 360 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,603 We're all the same age. 361 00:26:15,159 --> 00:26:17,161 1976. 362 00:26:18,784 --> 00:26:21,027 Right when the Sex Pistols came out. 363 00:26:21,062 --> 00:26:23,409 - Before. - Before? 364 00:26:25,342 --> 00:26:27,965 First of all, I can't believe that El Duce is only 32, though. 365 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,519 How old are you going to be this birthday? 366 00:26:30,554 --> 00:26:35,594 - Same age as Jesus Christ. - As they were nailing him down. 367 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:38,597 Hey, if he could be nailed, I'll be nailed. 368 00:26:38,631 --> 00:26:40,702 If Jesus could take it, I can take it. 369 00:26:41,634 --> 00:26:43,394 When did you start playing music? 370 00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:46,708 When I was about seven years old. 371 00:26:47,675 --> 00:26:49,573 And then I got really into the drums 372 00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:51,644 and I'd listen to records 373 00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:54,854 that my mom and dad would play and stuff. 374 00:26:54,889 --> 00:26:57,339 When my dad was drunk and in a good mood, 375 00:26:57,374 --> 00:26:59,272 trying to fuck my mom, 376 00:26:59,307 --> 00:27:02,448 and they'd put on the Tijuana Brass or whatever, you know, 377 00:27:02,482 --> 00:27:04,519 and I'd listen to it and I'd go like, "Wow man, 378 00:27:04,553 --> 00:27:06,728 "I dig that drum sound." You know. 379 00:27:10,836 --> 00:27:13,010 He started drums very early. 380 00:27:13,045 --> 00:27:16,186 I think he started drum lessons in 3rd or 4th grade, 381 00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:17,808 and he had so much native talent 382 00:27:17,843 --> 00:27:21,640 that he established himself very quickly in the drumming classes. 383 00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:24,470 The best student, essentially. 384 00:27:24,504 --> 00:27:27,093 And I think when he was in 6th grade, 385 00:27:27,128 --> 00:27:30,372 he joined this All City Youth Orchestra, you know, 386 00:27:30,407 --> 00:27:32,029 which was like the crème de la crme 387 00:27:32,064 --> 00:27:36,655 of all musicians in Seattle, you know, the child musicians. 388 00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:39,002 So he played big concerts at the Symphony Hall 389 00:27:39,036 --> 00:27:40,693 with this youth orchestra. 390 00:27:40,728 --> 00:27:42,557 Then he was later in drum corps, 391 00:27:42,591 --> 00:27:45,698 which is a marching kind of drum corps thing. 392 00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:47,182 He was always very good at that. 393 00:27:47,217 --> 00:27:48,977 He could read music very well 394 00:27:49,012 --> 00:27:52,671 and knew his way around the drums perfectly. 395 00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:56,295 What really motivated me was Jimmy Hendrix Experience. 396 00:27:56,329 --> 00:27:58,297 I wanted to play drums like Mitch Mitchell. 397 00:28:01,438 --> 00:28:03,095 Then I got a hip to The Who 398 00:28:03,129 --> 00:28:05,545 and I wanted to play like Keith Moon. 399 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,967 And then I got into jazz fusion music. 400 00:28:13,001 --> 00:28:16,142 Then I wanted to play like Billy Cobham. 401 00:28:16,902 --> 00:28:18,938 And then as time marched by, 402 00:28:18,973 --> 00:28:21,354 I just kind of combined all those styles, 403 00:28:21,389 --> 00:28:22,701 all into my own style. 404 00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:38,751 He was into sort of funk and jazz rock and stuff like that 405 00:28:38,786 --> 00:28:39,994 which we were into, too, 406 00:28:40,028 --> 00:28:41,409 like Mahavishnu Orchestra 407 00:28:41,443 --> 00:28:43,929 and Chick Corea, "Return to Forever", 408 00:28:43,963 --> 00:28:45,516 and all that kind of fusion jazz rock 409 00:28:45,551 --> 00:28:46,966 that was going on at the time. 410 00:28:54,008 --> 00:28:55,423 If you were into this kind of 411 00:28:55,457 --> 00:28:58,046 advanced Jazz fusion type of music 412 00:28:58,081 --> 00:29:00,739 that not many people were playing, kids your age anyway, 413 00:29:00,773 --> 00:29:06,296 how did you end up in sort of the punk rock and metal areas? 414 00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:09,748 Well, I guess in a way it was sort of a conscious sell-out. 415 00:29:10,887 --> 00:29:12,578 We were so into this fusion thing 416 00:29:12,612 --> 00:29:14,131 and we tried to play fusion, 417 00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:15,961 we worked up a lot of these original songs 418 00:29:15,995 --> 00:29:19,930 in the band before The Mentors, the Eldon Hoke Band, 419 00:29:19,965 --> 00:29:22,588 we played exclusively instrumental fusion. 420 00:29:22,622 --> 00:29:24,210 But there was just nowhere to play it. 421 00:29:24,245 --> 00:29:25,694 There was one club I remember 422 00:29:25,729 --> 00:29:28,456 that they advertised that they wanted that kind of stuff, 423 00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:30,182 and we went in there and tried to get a gig there. 424 00:29:30,216 --> 00:29:32,736 They wouldn't let us play there. It just was going nowhere, 425 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:35,808 so it was sort of the kind of thing that we... 426 00:29:35,843 --> 00:29:39,018 I guess you'd consider it a conscious sell-out. 427 00:29:39,053 --> 00:29:42,711 Well, see, no one really understood our fusion music, 428 00:29:42,746 --> 00:29:46,577 so I said, "We got to entertain these clowns, 429 00:29:46,612 --> 00:29:49,684 "so let's sing some dirty lyrics. 430 00:29:49,718 --> 00:29:51,513 "Throw them in there." 431 00:29:51,548 --> 00:29:55,655 So we went from jazz fusion... 432 00:29:57,278 --> 00:29:59,004 to perversion, 433 00:29:59,038 --> 00:30:01,765 and then we just broke it down into easy rock 434 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,285 that they could understand. 435 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:06,528 - Punk rock. - Yeah, punk rock. 436 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:53,679 The Dean of Students at Roosevelt High school. 437 00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:57,131 I used to cause a lot of vandalism, 438 00:30:57,165 --> 00:30:59,133 cos I hated everybody. 439 00:30:59,167 --> 00:31:03,033 I used to blow up toilets with M-80s, and... 440 00:31:03,068 --> 00:31:09,557 you know, write dirty drawings all over the walls and shoplift. 441 00:31:09,591 --> 00:31:13,319 I did everything, and set fires, I did all kinds of shit. 442 00:31:13,354 --> 00:31:18,117 Anything that raised hell, I would do it. 443 00:31:18,152 --> 00:31:21,396 You know, I used to urinate in jars 444 00:31:21,431 --> 00:31:24,434 and pour them on the radiators in the morning 445 00:31:24,468 --> 00:31:26,194 because it was freezing cold in Seattle, 446 00:31:26,229 --> 00:31:30,647 like it was 40 degrees outside, you're freezing cold. 447 00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:33,201 You come into the school, you want to warm up, 448 00:31:33,236 --> 00:31:39,276 and here is a radiator with urine smell pouring off of it. 449 00:31:39,311 --> 00:31:43,971 I used to shit in foil and stack it in the freezer 450 00:31:44,005 --> 00:31:46,697 and I'd take it to school, let it thaw out, 451 00:31:46,732 --> 00:31:49,528 and then I'd smear it all over the door knobs 452 00:31:49,562 --> 00:31:52,013 of all the classrooms, 453 00:31:52,048 --> 00:31:53,428 and vomit. 454 00:31:53,463 --> 00:31:55,810 I did all kinds of sick shit. 455 00:31:55,844 --> 00:32:00,366 I could go on for hours telling you all the sick shit I did. 456 00:32:00,401 --> 00:32:04,163 But I was just the number one nuisance to the school. 457 00:32:04,198 --> 00:32:10,031 So finally I'm in this language arts class, 458 00:32:10,066 --> 00:32:12,102 and the teacher gets this call, 459 00:32:12,137 --> 00:32:17,211 "Will you send El Duce down to the Dean of Students?" 460 00:32:17,245 --> 00:32:19,489 Oh, no! 461 00:32:19,523 --> 00:32:23,355 Some dipshit finked me off. 462 00:32:23,389 --> 00:32:25,667 So I go down there, 463 00:32:25,702 --> 00:32:30,017 and sure enough these two idiots that were working for me... 464 00:32:31,156 --> 00:32:34,469 So I go in there, acting all smooth and shit, 465 00:32:34,504 --> 00:32:36,368 and I sit down, the Dean of Students goes, 466 00:32:36,402 --> 00:32:38,853 "Alright, El Duce... 467 00:32:40,372 --> 00:32:43,685 "I have had reports that you are the one behind everything. 468 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,377 "You're the mentor." 469 00:32:45,411 --> 00:32:46,481 And I go, "What?" 470 00:32:46,516 --> 00:32:49,795 He goes, "You're the mentor behind it all." 471 00:32:49,829 --> 00:32:52,522 I just drilled it in my head and I go, "Mentor? 472 00:32:52,556 --> 00:32:53,592 "What do you mean, mentor?" 473 00:32:53,626 --> 00:32:55,456 And he goes, "Look it up here in the dictionary." 474 00:32:55,490 --> 00:32:57,906 And he throws the dictionary and he goes, "See that? 475 00:32:57,941 --> 00:32:59,736 "Read that to me." 476 00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:04,016 And I go, "Mentor, the one that everybody looks up to..." 477 00:33:04,051 --> 00:33:06,087 "You are the one who instructed all these guys 478 00:33:06,122 --> 00:33:09,884 "to shit and piss and throw garbage all over the school, 479 00:33:09,918 --> 00:33:11,610 "because you are the mentor." 480 00:33:11,644 --> 00:33:14,785 And he threw this big fit about me being the mentor. 481 00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:17,133 So I just said, "Fine, that's the name of the band, 482 00:33:17,167 --> 00:33:20,791 "it's got to be The Mentors." 483 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,010 Rockin' and a rollin' all the way 484 00:33:39,086 --> 00:33:41,812 Do you guys fight a lot in the band? 485 00:33:41,847 --> 00:33:44,746 Um, me and Steve don't, 486 00:33:44,781 --> 00:33:47,646 but Sickie throws in the wrench every time he can. 487 00:33:55,688 --> 00:33:58,622 Boy, maybe you should write down some questions. 488 00:33:58,657 --> 00:34:01,108 Me and Sickie bicker probably the worst. 489 00:34:01,142 --> 00:34:02,523 What do you bicker about? 490 00:34:02,557 --> 00:34:04,835 Little petty ass things, 491 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:06,975 the more pettier, the more we bicker. 492 00:34:07,010 --> 00:34:08,874 Do you fight about the music? 493 00:34:08,908 --> 00:34:12,084 No, we fight about whose beer is whose. 494 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,087 - No, I said Miller's Special. - You owe me five bucks. 495 00:34:15,122 --> 00:34:17,089 How do I owe you five bucks? 496 00:34:17,124 --> 00:34:19,229 Because I loaned you the money to get it. 497 00:34:21,369 --> 00:34:23,095 Wow, Miller's on sale. 498 00:34:28,652 --> 00:34:30,792 Do you have a car? Yeah, you came out in a car. 499 00:34:30,827 --> 00:34:32,863 After the gig, 500 00:34:32,898 --> 00:34:36,591 while Broy's waiting around getting paid, we can trunk up, 501 00:34:36,626 --> 00:34:38,317 so we just better get the six. 502 00:34:39,629 --> 00:34:41,803 Miller in cans, I hate that shit. 503 00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:48,500 You owe me five bucks. 504 00:34:48,534 --> 00:34:49,811 How do I owe you five? 505 00:34:49,846 --> 00:34:52,366 Because I paid for the fucking beer, 506 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,643 and you owe me two beers 507 00:34:53,677 --> 00:34:56,197 and you wanted me to loan you the money. 508 00:34:56,232 --> 00:34:58,130 Broy owes you the money, he couldn't pay you, 509 00:34:58,165 --> 00:35:00,788 so I gave you five bucks out of that. 510 00:35:00,822 --> 00:35:02,169 Duh. 511 00:35:04,757 --> 00:35:06,621 Just take five dollars' worth. 512 00:35:06,656 --> 00:35:08,071 Yeah... 513 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,763 - I want my $5 back. - That's the whole thing... 514 00:35:10,798 --> 00:35:13,387 I loaned you five dollars so he could get some beer. 515 00:35:13,421 --> 00:35:15,734 - Right. - Right, so you owe me 5 bucks. 516 00:35:15,768 --> 00:35:17,149 No, you get your two beers. 517 00:35:17,184 --> 00:35:18,495 No, you owe me five dollars. 518 00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:20,221 I owe you five bucks but if you want to get... 519 00:35:20,256 --> 00:35:22,361 And two beers! 520 00:35:22,396 --> 00:35:23,776 Five dollars and two beers. 521 00:35:23,811 --> 00:35:25,123 It's not that hard to figure it out. 522 00:35:25,157 --> 00:35:29,057 We've got this one clown, Ed Danky, in our band 523 00:35:29,092 --> 00:35:31,750 that's sort of in the band and sort of not in the band. 524 00:35:31,784 --> 00:35:35,340 I think Mr. Danky has something to say. 525 00:35:35,374 --> 00:35:36,582 We're over here, 526 00:35:36,617 --> 00:35:40,414 and this is Sneaky Spermshooter down here on the ground. 527 00:35:40,448 --> 00:35:42,416 - Time to rock. - It's time to rock? 528 00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:44,176 We're ready to blow. 529 00:35:44,211 --> 00:35:47,490 - Ready to blow? - Yeah, heavy rock is coming up. 530 00:35:47,524 --> 00:35:49,664 He doesn't believe in the Four F club, 531 00:35:49,699 --> 00:35:52,184 and, you know, it doesn't work. 532 00:35:52,219 --> 00:35:54,600 How long have you known El Duce? 533 00:35:54,635 --> 00:36:00,744 Oh, I've known the scum bag about, oh, 10 grueling years. 534 00:36:00,779 --> 00:36:03,989 In what capacity have you worked with him? 535 00:36:04,023 --> 00:36:07,095 I do a little background vocals for them sometimes, 536 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:10,651 and I jam with the guys all the time, and you know, 537 00:36:10,685 --> 00:36:14,172 I guess I'm like the Billy Preston of The Mentors. 538 00:36:14,206 --> 00:36:17,899 I remember you at that bar when you saw that. 539 00:36:17,934 --> 00:36:20,247 I saw this, and I went apeshit. 540 00:36:20,281 --> 00:36:24,009 A lot of the songs are sex oriented. 541 00:36:24,043 --> 00:36:25,217 Were they back then? 542 00:36:26,114 --> 00:36:27,392 Uh, yeah. 543 00:36:27,426 --> 00:36:30,395 Yeah, we kind of hit upon that as a gimmick. 544 00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:31,706 See, El Duce was... 545 00:36:31,741 --> 00:36:35,158 The one thing he was known for 546 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,368 when we going to junior high was, 547 00:36:38,403 --> 00:36:41,544 he was known as the guy who had all the pornography. 548 00:36:41,578 --> 00:36:44,547 His dad was a porno collector, 549 00:36:44,581 --> 00:36:48,206 and his dad tried to hide this porno from El Duce. 550 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,310 He had this little work room 551 00:36:49,345 --> 00:36:50,829 that was all locked up in the basement, 552 00:36:50,863 --> 00:36:52,279 but El Duce knew how to pick the lock, 553 00:36:52,313 --> 00:36:54,488 and he'd go down there while his dad and mum were off at work, 554 00:36:54,522 --> 00:36:55,868 and he'd have his buddies come over 555 00:36:55,903 --> 00:36:57,353 and he'd show them all the porn, 556 00:36:57,387 --> 00:36:59,182 and he'd give some of the magazines away. 557 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:00,908 So, El Duce had a real reputation 558 00:37:00,942 --> 00:37:02,737 as being sort of porn-meister. 559 00:37:02,772 --> 00:37:05,361 And El Duce would do this drum solo 560 00:37:05,395 --> 00:37:06,948 with these dildos he bought, 561 00:37:06,983 --> 00:37:09,296 these, you know, like, about 14 inch dildos 562 00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:12,678 he bought down at the porno store, 563 00:37:12,713 --> 00:37:16,199 and it was just a big gimmick thing, you know, I guess. 564 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:17,890 I don't know if we thought of it like that, 565 00:37:17,925 --> 00:37:19,754 but that was basically how it wound up. 566 00:37:36,737 --> 00:37:38,704 Not all of our stuff is pornographic. 567 00:37:38,739 --> 00:37:41,466 I mean if you listen to it carefully, 568 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:43,502 you know, the total catalogue, 569 00:37:43,537 --> 00:37:45,470 now I haven't tabulated it all, 570 00:37:45,504 --> 00:37:50,889 but I'd say maybe 50% is not wholly concerned with sex. 571 00:37:50,923 --> 00:37:52,787 First thing we do when we wake up in the morning 572 00:37:52,822 --> 00:37:54,548 - is take a shower... - No. 573 00:37:54,582 --> 00:37:57,309 - ...and put on a fresh hood. - Jack off! 574 00:37:58,862 --> 00:38:00,519 This hood smells like Sickie, though. 575 00:38:00,554 --> 00:38:02,280 - I know. - Disgusting. 576 00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:04,454 That's what you get for putting on his hood. 577 00:38:04,489 --> 00:38:06,111 It's not a fresh hood. 578 00:38:06,145 --> 00:38:07,423 Why the hoods? 579 00:38:07,457 --> 00:38:08,907 That was El Duce's idea. 580 00:38:08,941 --> 00:38:11,772 He had this idea when we put together The Mentors, 581 00:38:11,806 --> 00:38:13,532 that they'd have this very strong image. 582 00:38:13,567 --> 00:38:15,603 I saw it in the horror films 583 00:38:15,638 --> 00:38:18,537 and I go, "That's what we'll do, we'll all wear execution hoods." 584 00:38:18,572 --> 00:38:22,748 You see, I saw KISS do their thing. 585 00:38:22,783 --> 00:38:26,304 I go, "We got to be as outrageous as KISS." 586 00:38:26,338 --> 00:38:30,722 El Duce told me that he scheduled their first tour 587 00:38:30,756 --> 00:38:34,622 by calling around people and telling them 588 00:38:34,657 --> 00:38:41,595 that he had the most incredible KISS cover band that there was, 589 00:38:41,629 --> 00:38:44,874 and then he took just the KISS album, 590 00:38:44,908 --> 00:38:48,291 like, he taped a compilation of KISS records 591 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:51,570 and sent them as a demo tape out to people, 592 00:38:51,605 --> 00:38:54,780 and then, like... You know, that was his press kit, 593 00:38:54,815 --> 00:38:57,127 it was this demo tape that was just KISS, and he's like, 594 00:38:57,162 --> 00:38:59,820 "We're one of the most incredible KISS simulation 595 00:38:59,854 --> 00:39:01,373 "that has ever been," 596 00:39:01,408 --> 00:39:04,134 - and then they show up and... - Play El Duce! 597 00:39:04,169 --> 00:39:06,205 ...and they're the fucking... they're The Mentors. 598 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,982 How do you describe Mentors music? 599 00:39:24,016 --> 00:39:25,155 What is it to you? 600 00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:28,918 Uh, male chauvinism rock. 601 00:39:51,458 --> 00:39:54,840 don't go their way 602 00:39:57,049 --> 00:40:00,846 for their pay 603 00:40:13,065 --> 00:40:15,896 Do you think Mentors music is a joke? 604 00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:18,968 No it's a form of life. 605 00:40:19,002 --> 00:40:23,248 I just speak about what's on my mind and what I believe. 606 00:40:23,282 --> 00:40:26,251 So when did the ideology emerge in him? 607 00:40:27,494 --> 00:40:29,634 Uh, the whole... 608 00:40:29,668 --> 00:40:32,637 become fully flowered you mean? 609 00:40:32,671 --> 00:40:34,846 It was probably after The Mentors had been together 610 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,850 for about two or three years, when it really... 611 00:40:38,884 --> 00:40:41,266 you know, became very monolithic like that. 612 00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:44,165 It was just sort of a slow evolution. 613 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,927 - What about "Golden Showers"? - Oh, yeah. 614 00:40:46,961 --> 00:40:50,482 See, I caught this one girl cheating on me. 615 00:40:50,517 --> 00:40:52,726 She goes, "He was so cute, can you blame me?" 616 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,072 and I go, "Yeah, I can." 617 00:40:54,106 --> 00:40:55,936 "I'm going to have to give you the treatment." 618 00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:59,180 She goes, "Whatever you want, I love you... 619 00:40:59,215 --> 00:41:01,424 "Oh, I love you." 620 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:04,392 I said, "All right, prove your love." 621 00:41:32,075 --> 00:41:34,112 Now Mr. Chairman, one point we've already made, 622 00:41:34,146 --> 00:41:35,976 the material which has caused the concern 623 00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:37,046 is new and different. 624 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,599 It's not just a continuation 625 00:41:38,634 --> 00:41:41,119 of controversies of past generations. 626 00:41:41,153 --> 00:41:42,638 To illustrate this point, 627 00:41:42,672 --> 00:41:45,848 we would like to show a slide presentation. 628 00:41:45,882 --> 00:41:47,677 The purpose of this presentation is to acquaint you 629 00:41:47,712 --> 00:41:49,990 with the type of material that is in question. 630 00:41:50,024 --> 00:41:52,613 I will be covering the themes of violence and sexuality. 631 00:41:52,648 --> 00:41:55,271 Bear in mind that what you are about to see and hear 632 00:41:55,305 --> 00:41:56,755 is a small sample 633 00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:58,895 of the abundant material available today. 634 00:41:58,930 --> 00:42:02,174 Ozzy Osborne, on his first solo album shown here, 635 00:42:02,209 --> 00:42:04,245 sings a song called "Suicide Solution". 636 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,385 Ozzy insists that he in no way 637 00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:09,043 encourages suicidal behavior in young people, 638 00:42:09,078 --> 00:42:12,012 and yet he appears in photographs such as these. 639 00:42:14,635 --> 00:42:16,982 For those of you who can't make that out because of the lights, 640 00:42:17,017 --> 00:42:20,330 it's a picture of Ozzy with a gun barrel stuck into his mouth. 641 00:42:44,354 --> 00:42:46,184 My apologies. 642 00:42:46,218 --> 00:42:48,635 How bad can it get? The list is endless. 643 00:42:48,669 --> 00:42:51,258 This album was released just recently 644 00:42:51,292 --> 00:42:53,950 by a band called The Mentors. 645 00:42:53,985 --> 00:42:57,229 It was released on the label Enigma Records, 646 00:42:57,264 --> 00:43:00,819 which also launched Motley Crue's career. 647 00:43:00,854 --> 00:43:02,372 The album includes songs like 648 00:43:02,407 --> 00:43:05,513 "Four F Club: Find Her, Feel Her, Fuck Her And Forget Her", 649 00:43:05,548 --> 00:43:06,963 "Free Fix For A Fuck", 650 00:43:06,998 --> 00:43:09,345 "Clap Queen", "My Erection is Over", 651 00:43:09,379 --> 00:43:12,348 and the song "Golden Showers" which says these words, 652 00:43:12,382 --> 00:43:14,902 "Listen you little slut, do as you're told, 653 00:43:14,937 --> 00:43:17,215 "come with Daddy for me to pour the gold. 654 00:43:17,249 --> 00:43:20,632 "Golden showers, all through my excrements you shall roam, 655 00:43:20,667 --> 00:43:22,841 "bend up and smell my anal vapor, 656 00:43:22,876 --> 00:43:24,878 "your face is my toilet paper, 657 00:43:24,912 --> 00:43:27,328 "on your face I leave a shit tower, 658 00:43:27,363 --> 00:43:29,192 "golden showers." 659 00:43:29,227 --> 00:43:31,298 Mr. Chairman that concludes my remarks, I thank you. 660 00:43:31,332 --> 00:43:33,956 I'm sorry your time has expired. 661 00:43:35,992 --> 00:43:38,305 Thanks to the PMRC, 662 00:43:38,339 --> 00:43:41,239 we tripled our sales, 663 00:43:41,273 --> 00:43:43,724 we're like a nothing band for a while, 664 00:43:43,759 --> 00:43:47,176 then the PMRC came up there and bitched about us, 665 00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:49,040 next thing you know our records skyrocketed. 666 00:43:49,074 --> 00:43:51,421 It's all just bullshit. 667 00:43:51,456 --> 00:43:55,046 I mean, he's successful because he gets a reaction. 668 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,600 It's like there's a need for that in society, 669 00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:00,292 otherwise it's just boring and dull. 670 00:44:00,327 --> 00:44:03,019 I mean, people... you know, they get all upset 671 00:44:03,054 --> 00:44:04,227 and they go to the Senate, 672 00:44:04,262 --> 00:44:06,402 and they do all this protesting and all that stuff 673 00:44:06,436 --> 00:44:08,266 that just hypes his trip. 674 00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:09,819 The records start selling more, 675 00:44:09,854 --> 00:44:11,338 and I mean, mean they're doing the... 676 00:44:11,372 --> 00:44:13,236 They're giving him just what he wants. 677 00:44:13,271 --> 00:44:15,342 And I got to give him a lot of credit. 678 00:44:15,376 --> 00:44:16,930 Man, he gets away with it. 679 00:44:16,964 --> 00:44:20,174 He's exactly... he's a total success in himself. 680 00:44:31,807 --> 00:44:32,842 El Duce! 681 00:44:45,441 --> 00:44:48,824 What kind of clubs were you playing before the PMRC? 682 00:44:51,758 --> 00:44:53,829 Holes in the wall, dives, 683 00:44:53,863 --> 00:44:56,003 somebody's backyard, 684 00:44:56,038 --> 00:44:58,178 but when the PMRC... 685 00:45:00,628 --> 00:45:02,113 When they snapped into action, 686 00:45:02,147 --> 00:45:05,150 man, we started playing big halls, auditoriums. 687 00:45:05,185 --> 00:45:08,982 and smell my anal vapor 688 00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:19,751 What kind of bands did you play with? 689 00:45:19,786 --> 00:45:21,235 Well, we started off playing 690 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:24,549 with just everybody's local brother's band, you know. 691 00:45:24,583 --> 00:45:27,794 and then once the PMRC kicked into action, 692 00:45:27,828 --> 00:45:29,934 we started playing with big groups, 693 00:45:29,968 --> 00:45:35,318 like Metal Church, Montrose, Ronnie Montrose, Plasmatics. 694 00:45:35,353 --> 00:45:38,183 Probably the biggest bands we played with is, like, Fear 695 00:45:38,218 --> 00:45:40,358 and Killing Joke, Black Flag. 696 00:45:40,392 --> 00:45:44,742 What's the best road experience you ever had with The Mentors? 697 00:45:44,776 --> 00:45:47,123 Probably with Saint Vitus. 698 00:45:48,815 --> 00:45:52,888 I got laid about seven times on that tour. 699 00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,775 If you just look at LA, you know, the past few years, 700 00:46:17,809 --> 00:46:20,191 there's a huge explosion of metal bands 701 00:46:20,225 --> 00:46:22,365 that are coming out and being very popular, 702 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,955 Poison and you know, whomever else, Warrant. 703 00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:30,028 But I think these guys are extremely calculated. 704 00:46:30,063 --> 00:46:33,100 First of all, they're part of a very big money making machine. 705 00:46:33,135 --> 00:46:35,447 Any time you're in that... your league, 706 00:46:35,482 --> 00:46:37,346 you're talking to a big conglomerate 707 00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:39,658 putting a lot of money into you, 708 00:46:39,693 --> 00:46:41,419 expecting you to behave professionally 709 00:46:41,453 --> 00:46:43,076 as far as not blowing shows, 710 00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:45,181 you know, showing up on time, 711 00:46:45,216 --> 00:46:47,770 producing a record on time, things of that nature. 712 00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:51,601 This band, you know, Mentors is not set up for that at all. 713 00:46:51,636 --> 00:46:56,192 I'm not sure if people will listen to us in 100 years. 714 00:46:57,849 --> 00:46:59,264 I think they might... 715 00:47:01,163 --> 00:47:03,475 as opposed to a band that's somewhat disposable, 716 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:05,926 enjoyable music, quality music, 717 00:47:05,961 --> 00:47:10,034 but yet easily replaced. 718 00:47:10,068 --> 00:47:12,622 So you see Mentor's music as what? 719 00:47:12,657 --> 00:47:14,866 As art, I would consider it art 720 00:47:14,901 --> 00:47:19,284 to the extent where most music that's sold 721 00:47:19,319 --> 00:47:20,527 is less art, 722 00:47:20,561 --> 00:47:22,805 and more of it just product, it's a commercial product. 723 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,014 What constitutes art to you? 724 00:47:26,705 --> 00:47:30,744 I think art has got... 725 00:47:30,778 --> 00:47:34,058 True art is something that is independent of time. 726 00:47:36,405 --> 00:47:37,785 Uh... 727 00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:42,135 I would say it deals with lasting human themes 728 00:47:42,169 --> 00:47:47,278 that are, again, time-independent to an extent. 729 00:47:47,312 --> 00:47:49,625 They sign a lot of these glam rock bands, 730 00:47:49,659 --> 00:47:51,247 tens of thousands of these bands 731 00:47:51,282 --> 00:47:54,802 and all look the same, all sound the same, 732 00:47:54,837 --> 00:47:56,943 you can't tell one band from the other. 733 00:47:56,977 --> 00:47:59,393 but you could always tell The Mentors, 734 00:47:59,428 --> 00:48:01,050 cos we stand out. 735 00:48:01,085 --> 00:48:04,329 We're tired of sissy groups like Motley Crue 736 00:48:04,364 --> 00:48:06,642 and all this sissy stuff. 737 00:48:06,676 --> 00:48:07,815 We want rape rock. 738 00:48:07,850 --> 00:48:10,508 Sneaky, what do you think of the Beatles? 739 00:48:10,542 --> 00:48:13,131 - Who? - The Beatles. 740 00:48:13,166 --> 00:48:14,201 They don't rock. 741 00:48:27,283 --> 00:48:30,804 They could say, "Bon Jovi is really on an up move," 742 00:48:30,838 --> 00:48:31,909 you know whatever, 743 00:48:31,943 --> 00:48:34,532 I don't care if he goes up or down. 744 00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:38,329 I've got my lyrics, and if they don't like it, 745 00:48:38,363 --> 00:48:40,987 they can eat shit out of my ass. 746 00:48:41,021 --> 00:48:43,575 I want to ask you something. 747 00:48:43,610 --> 00:48:46,164 What does your mother think about you? Huh? 748 00:48:47,717 --> 00:48:50,272 Was El Duce... 749 00:48:50,306 --> 00:48:53,827 Early on was he a sort of a teddy bear of a guy 750 00:48:53,861 --> 00:48:56,416 or was he mean, was he good? Was he... 751 00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:57,555 I mean, he was obviously your friend. 752 00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:58,866 Yeah. 753 00:48:58,901 --> 00:49:00,420 Um... 754 00:49:00,454 --> 00:49:03,216 I wouldn't call him Mr. Nice guy. 755 00:49:03,250 --> 00:49:05,977 He had a lot of weird aspects to his personality. 756 00:49:06,012 --> 00:49:07,461 He was... 757 00:49:08,428 --> 00:49:11,362 See, he was from a family of four, OK? 758 00:49:11,396 --> 00:49:12,777 As far as other kids. 759 00:49:12,811 --> 00:49:16,988 He had two sisters and one brother. 760 00:49:17,023 --> 00:49:21,096 Now, one brother and one sister were older than he was, 761 00:49:21,130 --> 00:49:22,994 and they were very good students, 762 00:49:23,029 --> 00:49:25,963 and his father is... or was 763 00:49:25,997 --> 00:49:30,691 a highly paid, high-up in the bureaucracy, engineer at Boeing. 764 00:49:30,726 --> 00:49:32,659 He was an aeronautical engineer. 765 00:49:32,693 --> 00:49:35,006 And so there was a certain amount of expectation 766 00:49:35,041 --> 00:49:36,766 put on El Duce 767 00:49:36,801 --> 00:49:39,010 to follow in the good student footsteps 768 00:49:39,045 --> 00:49:40,598 of these two elder siblings. 769 00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:44,774 But he just wasn't cut out for that kind of thing and he... 770 00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:46,638 You know, I think a couple of times 771 00:49:46,673 --> 00:49:48,330 he almost got put back a grade, 772 00:49:48,364 --> 00:49:52,886 and that kind of scarred his personality to a certain extent. 773 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,301 Was, um... 774 00:49:54,336 --> 00:49:57,304 As a kid or a teenager was El Duce lazy? 775 00:49:57,339 --> 00:49:58,650 Extremely. 776 00:49:59,651 --> 00:50:01,515 Extremely lazy. 777 00:50:02,723 --> 00:50:04,484 Did he... Was he... 778 00:50:04,518 --> 00:50:06,658 Always since birth. 779 00:50:06,693 --> 00:50:09,558 - Dramatically different than... - Since birth he was... 780 00:50:09,592 --> 00:50:12,319 And he's one of those people that work harder at not working. 781 00:50:12,354 --> 00:50:14,218 Like if he would... You know what I'm saying? 782 00:50:14,252 --> 00:50:16,841 All these lengths to avoid doing the simple task, 783 00:50:16,875 --> 00:50:18,636 if he would have done the simple task, 784 00:50:18,670 --> 00:50:20,500 he wouldn't have to go to all this other bullshit, 785 00:50:20,534 --> 00:50:22,088 you know what I mean? 786 00:50:22,122 --> 00:50:23,261 Does that make sense? 787 00:50:23,296 --> 00:50:26,575 Now, I don't give a damn about books... 788 00:50:27,921 --> 00:50:31,028 because I don't care what year George Washington flipped a coin 789 00:50:31,062 --> 00:50:33,996 across the Delaware River or whatever, 790 00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:37,965 I'll find that out later, when I'm damn well ready. 791 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,175 So how did he become such a good drummer? 792 00:50:40,209 --> 00:50:43,868 It was the one thing that he clung on too that he couldn't... 793 00:50:43,902 --> 00:50:46,215 I think also he could take out a lot of anger on those drums. 794 00:50:47,147 --> 00:50:48,700 A lot of anger towards my father. 795 00:50:48,735 --> 00:50:50,495 You know what? 796 00:50:50,530 --> 00:50:54,913 That's me as little bastard right there. 797 00:50:54,948 --> 00:50:59,021 I'm going like, "Who's going to fuck up my life, 798 00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:01,851 "then make me the weirdo that I is right now?" 799 00:51:01,886 --> 00:51:03,094 Right? Tells myself, 800 00:51:03,129 --> 00:51:05,372 "I ain't fucked up, I ain't weird, I ain't nothing." 801 00:51:05,407 --> 00:51:07,443 What's your family like? 802 00:51:08,686 --> 00:51:10,377 Square. 803 00:51:10,412 --> 00:51:12,931 My dad designed bombs. 804 00:51:16,659 --> 00:51:19,283 He designed part of the Apollo 11... 805 00:51:21,354 --> 00:51:23,080 that landed on the moon. 806 00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:26,290 What about your mother? 807 00:51:26,324 --> 00:51:29,224 She was a secretary. 808 00:51:29,258 --> 00:51:31,295 What was your childhood like, growing up? 809 00:51:31,329 --> 00:51:34,021 Oh, my dad beat me all the time. 810 00:51:34,056 --> 00:51:35,954 He got a thrill out of it, boy. 811 00:51:35,989 --> 00:51:38,474 His eyes would light up when he cracked that whip. 812 00:51:38,509 --> 00:51:40,338 Bam! 813 00:51:41,132 --> 00:51:43,548 And I'd go like, "Yow!" 814 00:51:43,583 --> 00:51:47,242 The more I yelled, the more he got a turn-on. 815 00:51:47,276 --> 00:51:48,864 And your mother? 816 00:51:48,898 --> 00:51:51,384 Well, she just closed her ears and closed her eyes and said, 817 00:51:51,418 --> 00:51:54,145 "It's not real, it's not real." 818 00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:55,940 I said, "It is real." 819 00:51:57,321 --> 00:52:00,151 And I started the ball rolling with my dad, 820 00:52:00,186 --> 00:52:04,259 because of my grade card. 821 00:52:05,674 --> 00:52:11,783 I got nothing but flunks and bad grades when I was a kid. 822 00:52:13,233 --> 00:52:14,372 He goes, 823 00:52:14,407 --> 00:52:16,271 "Why aren't you as smart as your brother and sister?" 824 00:52:16,305 --> 00:52:19,066 And I said, "Well, because I'm smarter. 825 00:52:19,101 --> 00:52:20,930 "I do not submit." 826 00:52:22,277 --> 00:52:24,141 I mean, that's what I was thinking on my head. 827 00:52:24,175 --> 00:52:27,213 I didn't tell my dad that, but that's what I was thinking. 828 00:52:27,247 --> 00:52:30,008 I do not submit to people that order me around. 829 00:52:30,043 --> 00:52:32,010 He says his dad... 830 00:52:32,045 --> 00:52:34,081 he says your dad beat him when he was a kid. 831 00:52:34,116 --> 00:52:35,911 Were you aware of that? 832 00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:38,638 He spanked him really hard with a paddle, yeah. 833 00:52:38,672 --> 00:52:39,742 He did that to me, too. 834 00:52:39,777 --> 00:52:43,021 We feared our father like Hitler. 835 00:52:43,056 --> 00:52:44,609 We did not... we didn't respect him. 836 00:52:44,644 --> 00:52:47,371 It wasn't healthy respect, it was downright fear. 837 00:52:47,405 --> 00:52:51,340 I mean, this is what my dad used to do there. 838 00:52:51,375 --> 00:52:56,173 He drilled holes like that big around in his paddle... 839 00:52:57,622 --> 00:53:00,107 to get a good swing on it. 840 00:53:00,142 --> 00:53:02,317 Bam! And crack my ass. 841 00:53:02,351 --> 00:53:07,045 He'd beat me an average of about twice a week 842 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,049 for not doing this, not mowing the lawn right, 843 00:53:11,084 --> 00:53:13,604 this or that, I'm a retarded person, you know, 844 00:53:13,638 --> 00:53:16,814 any excuse he could find to beat me, he would beat me. 845 00:53:16,848 --> 00:53:19,230 Do you think your dad feels responsible in some way? 846 00:53:19,265 --> 00:53:21,025 No. 847 00:53:21,059 --> 00:53:26,410 I think he absolved himself of all of it. 848 00:53:26,444 --> 00:53:29,413 Because, you know, my dad's a sicko. 849 00:53:29,447 --> 00:53:35,384 He designed bombs for the Vietnam War 850 00:53:35,419 --> 00:53:38,180 that tortured and killed people. 851 00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:42,184 He helped design, what they called a Bouncing Napalm Bomb, 852 00:53:42,219 --> 00:53:45,256 which is a spinning bomb. 853 00:53:45,291 --> 00:53:47,085 They shoot it out of B52, 854 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,434 and it goes down right through the tree line, 855 00:53:50,468 --> 00:53:54,403 and it spins and drops off canisters of napalm. 856 00:53:54,438 --> 00:53:57,130 So for a five mile stretch, 857 00:53:57,164 --> 00:53:59,615 it blows like in "Apocalypse Now". 858 00:53:59,650 --> 00:54:02,894 My dad designed that motherfucker. 859 00:54:02,929 --> 00:54:05,138 El's just like, you know... 860 00:54:06,312 --> 00:54:09,211 He's everything that is my dad's worst nightmare, 861 00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:11,834 and that's kind of great, too. 862 00:54:11,869 --> 00:54:15,286 My dad needs that karma. 863 00:54:15,321 --> 00:54:17,012 He does. 864 00:54:22,224 --> 00:54:26,884 My dad is demented, sick, warped and retarded. 865 00:54:26,918 --> 00:54:28,644 I'm normal. 866 00:54:30,543 --> 00:54:32,441 So, you do love your family? 867 00:54:32,476 --> 00:54:34,443 Yeah, I love my family. 868 00:54:34,478 --> 00:54:36,134 Who doesn't? 869 00:54:36,169 --> 00:54:38,033 Do you go home at Christmas? 870 00:54:38,067 --> 00:54:39,241 Nope, not this year, 871 00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:42,140 because my dad told me to get lost and never come back, 872 00:54:42,175 --> 00:54:46,110 and I said, "You got your wish. 873 00:54:47,456 --> 00:54:50,114 "I'm going to dance on your grave when you get cancer!" 874 00:54:50,148 --> 00:54:51,495 Bleurgh! 875 00:55:18,625 --> 00:55:21,283 Alright, come on. since you're helping me move it. 876 00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:23,630 Yeah, one more thing to get up. 877 00:55:23,665 --> 00:55:26,150 Wait till you see my drum set! 878 00:55:36,609 --> 00:55:38,404 Hey, I didn't see you on... 879 00:55:38,438 --> 00:55:40,233 I missed you on "General High School". 880 00:55:40,267 --> 00:55:42,373 Oh, I'm going to be on on August 7th. 881 00:55:42,408 --> 00:55:46,032 - August 7th. - Yeah, one more show. 882 00:55:46,066 --> 00:55:47,930 What are you bringing to set the pace? 883 00:55:47,965 --> 00:55:51,209 A Walkman with about 200 cassettes 884 00:55:51,244 --> 00:55:53,142 and an amplifier 885 00:55:53,177 --> 00:55:56,767 and a couple of pairs of socks and underwear, and that's it. 886 00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:59,908 Hey, look at that, there's plenty of room in here. 887 00:56:03,187 --> 00:56:05,396 You can fit how many people in here with the equipment? 888 00:56:05,431 --> 00:56:08,192 We're going to take six people, and the amps back there, 889 00:56:08,226 --> 00:56:09,849 and the drums on top of the amps, 890 00:56:09,883 --> 00:56:11,298 so it looks like pretty good shape. 891 00:56:11,333 --> 00:56:14,129 I think we've got enough room for everybody. 892 00:56:14,163 --> 00:56:16,096 What's the farthest East you go? 893 00:56:16,131 --> 00:56:17,960 New York City. 894 00:56:19,272 --> 00:56:20,825 Where are you going to play in New York? 895 00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:22,827 - The Ritz. - Really? 896 00:56:26,521 --> 00:56:27,798 Yeah. 897 00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:37,566 No. 898 00:56:41,536 --> 00:56:43,330 No, I think this one's under control. 899 00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:45,678 Are those tools? 900 00:56:45,712 --> 00:56:47,507 I got a phone number for tools. 901 00:56:47,542 --> 00:56:50,579 - Here's your hood, Sneaky. - Yeesh! 902 00:56:50,614 --> 00:56:53,548 I got a phone number for a guy that's really good. 903 00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:55,032 Don't leave home without it. 904 00:57:02,315 --> 00:57:03,592 So everything else you have 905 00:57:03,627 --> 00:57:06,250 you're just going to leave here when you leave the road huh? 906 00:57:06,284 --> 00:57:08,528 Yeah, more or less. 907 00:57:09,805 --> 00:57:12,187 - Can we get... You think... 908 00:57:12,221 --> 00:57:14,741 you think Sneaky Spermshooter will throw it all away 909 00:57:14,776 --> 00:57:16,536 when he realizes you left without him? 910 00:57:16,571 --> 00:57:18,365 Oh, yeah, he's going to be damn pissed. 911 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,815 So you just sneak in 912 00:57:19,850 --> 00:57:21,748 and tell him you are just taking the stuff for a minute, 913 00:57:21,783 --> 00:57:25,234 - and you see him tomorrow, huh? - Yeah. 914 00:57:25,269 --> 00:57:26,891 But you guys are gonna be in St. Louis 915 00:57:26,926 --> 00:57:28,962 - and he's gonna be here, huh? - Right. 916 00:57:44,806 --> 00:57:46,117 I'm sitting there looking at him, 917 00:57:46,152 --> 00:57:48,844 sitting out in the electric car waiting on... 918 00:57:59,337 --> 00:58:01,547 So, uh... 919 00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:05,240 we were going to kick him out of the band anyway 920 00:58:05,274 --> 00:58:06,310 right before the tour, 921 00:58:06,344 --> 00:58:12,247 this last tour we did with the Revolting Cocks, 922 00:58:12,281 --> 00:58:15,146 but we didn't know how we were going to tell him. 923 00:58:15,181 --> 00:58:16,251 and then, uh... 924 00:58:18,287 --> 00:58:21,946 luckily he was so gone towards the end, 925 00:58:21,981 --> 00:58:24,846 that he just up and died, killed himself, 926 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,022 shooting up dope, speedballs, and... 927 00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,751 so that was a big load off our shoulders. 928 00:58:34,407 --> 00:58:36,513 I liked that guy, Ed. 929 00:58:36,547 --> 00:58:38,411 Well, I didn't really like Ed. He was kind of a... 930 00:58:38,445 --> 00:58:39,861 Sneaky Spermshooter, you know? 931 00:58:39,895 --> 00:58:42,104 - Yeah, he's dead. - He's not dead, is he? 932 00:58:42,139 --> 00:58:44,037 - Swear to God, he's dead. - No way. 933 00:58:44,072 --> 00:58:45,073 He's dead. 934 00:58:45,107 --> 00:58:46,523 - You swear? - I swear to God. 935 00:58:46,557 --> 00:58:48,663 - Who told you that, Ed? - I know he's dead. 936 00:58:48,697 --> 00:58:49,664 How do you know he's dead? 937 00:58:49,698 --> 00:58:50,941 Ed didn't tell me he's dead, no. 938 00:58:50,975 --> 00:58:54,116 Did you feel, I know you kind of skirted around, so... 939 00:58:54,151 --> 00:58:56,947 Well, see, I was bummed out because I lost my pad. 940 00:58:56,981 --> 00:59:01,468 And I lost a lot of clothes, my color TV, 941 00:59:01,503 --> 00:59:05,058 my espresso coffee maker, 942 00:59:05,093 --> 00:59:07,578 my popcorn, hot air popcorn popper. 943 00:59:07,613 --> 00:59:09,960 I don't wish that on anybody, 944 00:59:09,994 --> 00:59:13,550 but, you know, he was a little bit of a... 945 00:59:17,726 --> 00:59:20,522 I mean if he's dead, he was an alright guy. 946 01:00:32,007 --> 01:00:33,940 The way the band's set up, 947 01:00:33,975 --> 01:00:35,839 there's so much infighting going on, 948 01:00:35,873 --> 01:00:38,427 so much personal stuff, 949 01:00:38,462 --> 01:00:42,017 that I don't think the band has got what it takes 950 01:00:42,052 --> 01:00:45,089 to totally go to the top. 951 01:00:45,124 --> 01:00:47,160 I just don't see that happening. 952 01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:51,095 And so what drives you then 953 01:00:51,130 --> 01:00:53,650 is just your enjoyment of playing music, 954 01:00:53,684 --> 01:00:55,997 you know, just doing it, 955 01:00:56,031 --> 01:01:00,139 and you have to enjoy doing it just for the sake of doing it. 956 01:01:10,287 --> 01:01:13,428 have the right to rock 957 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,922 He comes down pretty hard and is pretty anti-homosexual 958 01:01:58,956 --> 01:02:01,890 and such very terrible things. 959 01:02:01,925 --> 01:02:03,892 Well, you got to understand, 960 01:02:03,927 --> 01:02:07,102 the appeal of The Mentors in a lot of ways is very juvenile, 961 01:02:07,137 --> 01:02:10,450 and it's sort of a male bonding thing, 962 01:02:10,485 --> 01:02:18,148 a thing that 16-year-olds can get together and listen to 963 01:02:18,182 --> 01:02:20,633 and set themselves apart from all their friends 964 01:02:20,667 --> 01:02:24,671 by being into this band, The Mentors, and... 965 01:02:24,706 --> 01:02:28,710 As you know 16-year-old males in general are very homophobic, 966 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:31,782 and I think that's where it comes from, you know. 967 01:02:31,817 --> 01:02:33,370 He's not the kind of guy 968 01:02:33,404 --> 01:02:36,511 to go out and "fag bash" or anything like that, 969 01:02:36,545 --> 01:02:39,721 it's just part and parcel of the whole Mentors package 970 01:02:39,756 --> 01:02:41,585 that these things come into the music. 971 01:02:46,038 --> 01:02:47,004 Yeah. 972 01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:49,593 - Do you like that guitar sound? - Yeah. 973 01:02:49,627 --> 01:02:50,801 AJ. 974 01:02:50,836 --> 01:02:52,630 Go get fucked up! 975 01:02:54,563 --> 01:02:55,772 AJ. 976 01:02:55,806 --> 01:02:57,601 I like the devil hearts. 977 01:02:57,635 --> 01:02:58,947 Thanks, man. 978 01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:03,055 What's up, man? 979 01:03:03,089 --> 01:03:04,504 Alright, kid? 980 01:03:04,539 --> 01:03:06,368 Get that hood on right. 981 01:03:12,236 --> 01:03:13,272 It's not... 982 01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:18,484 You're nobody to look up to. 983 01:03:18,518 --> 01:03:20,313 I'll tell you right now where you're going. 984 01:03:28,528 --> 01:03:30,841 Your next gig was going to be where? 985 01:03:30,876 --> 01:03:33,395 This White Power movement thing. 986 01:03:34,672 --> 01:03:36,847 See, there's a lot of these fanatics 987 01:03:36,882 --> 01:03:39,436 down at Huntington Beach that want to... 988 01:03:40,644 --> 01:03:44,648 They want The Mentors to play there. 989 01:03:44,682 --> 01:03:47,478 But I don't know, I got a lot of black friends, too, you know. 990 01:03:47,513 --> 01:03:49,618 I... I got... 991 01:03:49,653 --> 01:03:52,587 Living in LA, you got all kinds of friends, you know. 992 01:03:52,621 --> 01:03:56,418 I got Chinese friends and Mexican friends... 993 01:03:56,453 --> 01:03:59,283 You know, it wouldn't look right for me to go down there 994 01:03:59,318 --> 01:04:03,460 and play for a bunch of... a limited amount of people 995 01:04:03,494 --> 01:04:06,359 that don't think too deeply. 996 01:04:06,394 --> 01:04:08,706 Why do you, uh... 997 01:04:08,741 --> 01:04:11,054 I mean I believe that whites have rights, you know, 998 01:04:11,088 --> 01:04:13,125 and if there's a black movement, 999 01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:16,059 there should be a white movement. 1000 01:04:16,093 --> 01:04:17,854 I'm proud of being a white. 1001 01:04:18,993 --> 01:04:22,859 When I become sheriff of this county, 1002 01:04:22,893 --> 01:04:25,309 I'll be like Buford Pusser. 1003 01:04:26,655 --> 01:04:28,830 I'm going to be the strongest. 1004 01:04:33,835 --> 01:04:37,874 I'm a Klansman, I'm a redneck, hallelujah! 1005 01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:40,497 And I'm going to get them, 1006 01:04:40,531 --> 01:04:41,843 and you know what? 1007 01:04:42,775 --> 01:04:45,122 When I become sheriff of this county... 1008 01:04:46,330 --> 01:04:48,298 I'm going to carry a bat so big 1009 01:04:48,332 --> 01:04:52,198 it's going to have spikes sticking of the sides. 1010 01:04:52,233 --> 01:04:56,271 and then when they see me coming with my Nazi German helmet, 1011 01:04:56,306 --> 01:04:59,447 the crack dealers are going to spread like ants. 1012 01:05:00,379 --> 01:05:02,691 But to tell you the truth... 1013 01:06:00,577 --> 01:06:02,303 I'm American all the way. 1014 01:06:04,857 --> 01:06:06,686 All liberals must die. 1015 01:06:06,721 --> 01:06:08,274 Why? 1016 01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:13,003 They stand up for gangs and wars and literacy and... 1017 01:06:14,591 --> 01:06:16,834 How the hell do they expect to... 1018 01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:21,632 That calls for a drink. 1019 01:06:24,394 --> 01:06:26,672 I like him because he's a Nazi. 1020 01:06:29,847 --> 01:06:31,401 So you agree with both the liberals 1021 01:06:31,435 --> 01:06:33,196 and the conservatives? 1022 01:06:42,101 --> 01:06:43,344 What do you think of that? 1023 01:06:43,378 --> 01:06:46,968 I think it's a pile of crap, we're already overpopulated. 1024 01:06:49,315 --> 01:06:51,007 What are they going to feed them? 1025 01:06:51,041 --> 01:06:54,079 Alfalfa leaves and welfare stamps? 1026 01:06:56,391 --> 01:06:57,565 What's that? 1027 01:07:04,882 --> 01:07:06,436 They don't want to pay us, 1028 01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:08,955 but if they want us that bad, 1029 01:07:08,990 --> 01:07:11,717 they'll have to pay us 150 bucks and a keg of beer. 1030 01:07:11,751 --> 01:07:16,204 As far as El Duce's sort of philosophy 1031 01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:19,242 on Nazism and homosexuals... 1032 01:07:19,276 --> 01:07:20,898 Oh, he picked that up from a friend. 1033 01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:24,005 I think he picked that up from a friend of his a while back. 1034 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,007 That's just something he's latched on to 1035 01:07:26,042 --> 01:07:27,560 just to be offensive. 1036 01:07:27,595 --> 01:07:29,286 It's not to be taken seriously? 1037 01:07:29,321 --> 01:07:33,290 No, one of his best friends is as black as your pants. 1038 01:07:34,257 --> 01:07:36,190 Are you racist at all? 1039 01:07:36,224 --> 01:07:37,398 No. 1040 01:07:38,295 --> 01:07:40,435 I got a lot of black friends. 1041 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:43,266 Do you think he really idolizes Hitler? 1042 01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:46,372 Not in a serious sense, I don't think so. 1043 01:07:46,407 --> 01:07:48,064 Just in terms of the entertainment of it? 1044 01:07:48,098 --> 01:07:49,341 Yeah, I think he... 1045 01:07:49,375 --> 01:07:51,515 In terms of the entertainment, yes. 1046 01:07:52,758 --> 01:07:54,380 But no, he doesn't idolize Hitler, 1047 01:07:54,415 --> 01:07:56,865 certainly, you know, doesn't read books about Hitler, 1048 01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:59,799 nor have pictures of Hitler up on his wall or anything. 1049 01:08:01,456 --> 01:08:03,182 Your dad beat you, 1050 01:08:03,217 --> 01:08:05,322 and you resented that and you hated that, 1051 01:08:05,357 --> 01:08:08,084 and yet people like Hitler and Idi Amin, 1052 01:08:08,118 --> 01:08:10,431 brutalize and torture people, and you like that. 1053 01:08:10,465 --> 01:08:12,709 - Yeah, I do. - How do you justify that? 1054 01:08:12,743 --> 01:08:14,090 Because it's entertainment, 1055 01:08:14,124 --> 01:08:18,094 and I've finally grown up to realize what a fun party he is. 1056 01:08:18,128 --> 01:08:19,336 Did you think it was entertainment 1057 01:08:19,371 --> 01:08:20,406 when your dad was beating you? 1058 01:08:20,441 --> 01:08:22,339 Oh, yeah, he got a kick out of it. 1059 01:08:22,374 --> 01:08:23,513 You didn't, though? 1060 01:08:23,547 --> 01:08:25,515 Hell no, I was a victim of it. 1061 01:08:25,549 --> 01:08:27,137 You know what it's like to be the victim, 1062 01:08:27,172 --> 01:08:28,897 how come you like the idea of it? 1063 01:08:28,932 --> 01:08:30,002 Because you grow up, 1064 01:08:30,036 --> 01:08:31,866 and now I'm going to do it to somebody else, 1065 01:08:31,900 --> 01:08:34,765 cos my dad did it to me. 1066 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,698 Is that fair to the person you do it to, though? 1067 01:08:36,733 --> 01:08:40,012 Hell no, he's going to learn how to do it to the next victim. 1068 01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,672 It's a chain reaction, brother. 1069 01:09:00,343 --> 01:09:07,453 Mom, if it were only you and El Duce in the room together, 1070 01:09:07,488 --> 01:09:11,077 what do you want to just say to him? 1071 01:09:11,112 --> 01:09:13,045 You know what you're doing to kids? 1072 01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:16,082 Do you realize that you're making boys think 1073 01:09:16,117 --> 01:09:18,050 that they can go out and do this to girls, 1074 01:09:18,084 --> 01:09:19,534 and take their innocence away 1075 01:09:19,569 --> 01:09:21,709 when they don't want it taken away? 1076 01:09:21,743 --> 01:09:23,780 Well, girls shouldn't go out there advertising for it. 1077 01:09:23,814 --> 01:09:26,334 No, I'm sorry, I wasn't advertising for it, 1078 01:09:26,369 --> 01:09:27,749 I was only 12 years old. 1079 01:09:38,898 --> 01:09:41,832 This dive is where The Mentors started from. 1080 01:09:44,249 --> 01:09:46,975 They threw me out of here 1081 01:09:47,010 --> 01:09:51,014 because Stoney T said I set fire to the dumpster. 1082 01:09:52,567 --> 01:09:56,192 Let me tell you I'm going to buy this club and fire everybody. 1083 01:09:57,641 --> 01:10:00,092 But these guys are my friends. 1084 01:10:00,126 --> 01:10:02,094 That's right, brother. 1085 01:10:02,128 --> 01:10:04,648 - Eldon! - Yeah, what's up there, buddy? 1086 01:10:26,152 --> 01:10:28,258 How are you doin'? 1087 01:10:28,293 --> 01:10:30,709 This is El Duce. I named my dog after him. 1088 01:10:30,743 --> 01:10:32,193 "I named my dog after him!" 1089 01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:33,608 - What? - I named my dog after him. 1090 01:10:36,370 --> 01:10:38,199 I'm your fucking wife, asshole. 1091 01:10:51,833 --> 01:10:53,283 Good to see you. 1092 01:11:34,669 --> 01:11:36,015 OK. 1093 01:11:37,051 --> 01:11:38,742 Big stash. 1094 01:11:43,264 --> 01:11:44,300 There you go. 1095 01:11:44,334 --> 01:11:46,129 Thanks for welfare. 1096 01:11:54,586 --> 01:11:57,796 And then, see, he works part-time for me now, 1097 01:11:57,830 --> 01:12:00,350 so he'll help me in my business. 1098 01:12:00,385 --> 01:12:03,802 So we got this mutual thing going there. 1099 01:12:03,836 --> 01:12:05,148 What do you do? 1100 01:12:05,182 --> 01:12:07,253 I do private parties. 1101 01:12:07,288 --> 01:12:09,601 I'm an entertainer, too, and he's... 1102 01:12:09,635 --> 01:12:12,017 He comes a lot, he carries my shit in and out, 1103 01:12:12,051 --> 01:12:14,571 cos I go do private parties in people's houses, 1104 01:12:14,606 --> 01:12:16,539 he carries the shit in and out for me. 1105 01:12:16,573 --> 01:12:18,092 What kind of work do you do? 1106 01:12:18,126 --> 01:12:21,026 I paint apartments, do some plumbing. 1107 01:12:22,545 --> 01:12:23,753 Movie extra work. 1108 01:12:23,787 --> 01:12:26,307 well, that sounds pretty bad. 1109 01:12:26,342 --> 01:12:29,655 Well, it's not good news. 1110 01:12:29,690 --> 01:12:31,416 But it's better than the gas chamber. 1111 01:12:34,004 --> 01:12:36,144 How many 40 ounces do you drink a day? 1112 01:12:37,422 --> 01:12:39,458 I don't know, about two or three, sometimes four, 1113 01:12:39,493 --> 01:12:42,219 sometimes six, sometimes eight. 1114 01:12:43,497 --> 01:12:45,257 How many before you pass out? 1115 01:12:46,707 --> 01:12:48,467 Probably around six. 1116 01:12:50,227 --> 01:12:52,160 Do you pretty much pass out every night? 1117 01:12:53,092 --> 01:12:55,232 No, I'm... 1118 01:12:55,267 --> 01:12:57,683 Some nights I don't even sleep. 1119 01:12:57,718 --> 01:12:58,822 How is, uh... 1120 01:12:58,857 --> 01:13:03,793 Has El Duce's alcoholism ever affected shows? 1121 01:13:03,827 --> 01:13:06,692 I mean, I love being in the band and everything, 1122 01:13:06,727 --> 01:13:09,419 but it's affected the band to such a degree 1123 01:13:09,454 --> 01:13:13,319 that probably only 50% of the shows we're gonna do 1124 01:13:13,354 --> 01:13:14,562 are gonna be any good, 1125 01:13:14,597 --> 01:13:17,047 just due to the fact of the alcohol problem. 1126 01:13:17,082 --> 01:13:19,533 I mean there's been more shows than I could count 1127 01:13:19,567 --> 01:13:21,707 where he's been so out of it 1128 01:13:21,742 --> 01:13:24,296 that he literally could not even play, 1129 01:13:24,330 --> 01:13:26,402 barely even talk. 1130 01:13:28,507 --> 01:13:30,544 He's even gotten sloppy on his drums, 1131 01:13:30,578 --> 01:13:32,822 I mean there's another side of... 1132 01:13:32,856 --> 01:13:34,720 he just cruises. 1133 01:13:34,755 --> 01:13:39,069 This lyric shit is the same variations of the same crap. 1134 01:13:39,104 --> 01:13:40,277 He's lazy about that, 1135 01:13:40,312 --> 01:13:42,279 he can't even write lyrics anymore, 1136 01:13:42,314 --> 01:13:45,317 he just goes and improvises recordings and everything. 1137 01:14:03,818 --> 01:14:06,821 So that has been extremely detrimental, 1138 01:14:06,856 --> 01:14:09,306 now of course there has been lot of times 1139 01:14:09,341 --> 01:14:10,584 when it's been humorous... 1140 01:14:10,618 --> 01:14:13,828 El Duce might get mad about this one, 1141 01:14:13,863 --> 01:14:19,040 but this one place in Florida where he was frying... 1142 01:14:19,075 --> 01:14:23,079 I'm going to fucking get in the ring, and I'm gonna... 1143 01:14:23,113 --> 01:14:24,563 Ooh! 1144 01:14:25,599 --> 01:14:27,739 Yeah. Maybe I'm gonna be a wrestler. 1145 01:14:29,568 --> 01:14:31,881 The Billygoat! 1146 01:14:31,915 --> 01:14:33,365 Everybody thought he was talking to somebody, like, 1147 01:14:33,399 --> 01:14:34,366 "Who is he talking to?" 1148 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,473 This was, like, four hours' talking, 1149 01:14:37,507 --> 01:14:42,616 you know, all this shit, like the wrestling guys in WWE? 1150 01:14:42,650 --> 01:14:45,135 Doing all that shit for four hours, 1151 01:14:45,170 --> 01:14:49,277 and finally I got up to see who he was talking to, 1152 01:14:49,312 --> 01:14:50,865 and he's talking in the mirror. 1153 01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:52,177 He'd say stuff about, 1154 01:14:52,211 --> 01:14:54,800 "Yeah, I'm gonna kick this guy's ass." 1155 01:14:54,835 --> 01:14:57,078 You know, he's doing all... 1156 01:14:58,286 --> 01:15:00,288 That was really funny. 1157 01:15:02,843 --> 01:15:04,085 I'm going to take on anyone, 1158 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,812 I'll lose the match, who cares? 1159 01:15:07,986 --> 01:15:11,265 I'll get the chicks and the money afterwards. 1160 01:15:11,299 --> 01:15:15,476 Do you feel that the band kind of keeps him from getting clean? 1161 01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:17,789 Uh... 1162 01:15:19,722 --> 01:15:23,277 Well no, no, I don't think so, I don't think so. 1163 01:15:23,311 --> 01:15:26,245 I mean, to a certain extent his persona of El Duce 1164 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,490 is being, you know, this rock and roll party animal. 1165 01:15:30,836 --> 01:15:36,152 Sure, that reinforces that behavior to a certain extent. 1166 01:15:36,186 --> 01:15:37,809 But to point to any one thing and say, 1167 01:15:37,843 --> 01:15:40,087 "That's why he's the way he is," 1168 01:15:40,121 --> 01:15:44,885 or "If he wasn't doing that, he wouldn't be drinking," 1169 01:15:44,919 --> 01:15:47,335 I don't think one can make those statements or assumptions. 1170 01:15:47,370 --> 01:15:50,373 I think alcoholism is a very tricky thing 1171 01:15:50,407 --> 01:15:53,410 and certainly there's millions of alcoholics in the world 1172 01:15:53,445 --> 01:15:55,171 who aren't in rock bands, 1173 01:15:55,205 --> 01:15:59,347 you know, your doctors, lawyers, truck drivers... 1174 01:15:59,382 --> 01:16:00,935 Drug abuse and alcoholism, 1175 01:16:00,970 --> 01:16:03,420 they're chronic endemic problems with people, 1176 01:16:03,455 --> 01:16:06,044 and it's not necessarily attributed to any one thing 1177 01:16:06,078 --> 01:16:08,184 or any two or three things. 1178 01:16:08,218 --> 01:16:12,913 I started messing around with Vodka 100 Proof Smirnoff, 1179 01:16:12,947 --> 01:16:14,880 the blue bottles, 1180 01:16:14,915 --> 01:16:17,780 and I was drinking that shit, a fifth a day, 1181 01:16:17,814 --> 01:16:20,334 and that just tears your shit right up. 1182 01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:23,717 Your shit is gone within a month. 1183 01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:27,065 You know, drinking that stiff. 1184 01:16:27,099 --> 01:16:30,758 Cos I thought I was Superman, I could do anything, you know. 1185 01:16:32,035 --> 01:16:36,212 And then I woke up in the hospital, 1186 01:16:36,246 --> 01:16:38,317 tubes stuck in my arms and stuff, 1187 01:16:38,352 --> 01:16:41,942 and I was like, "I got to do something." 1188 01:16:43,426 --> 01:16:45,877 They gave me all these knock-out pills and shit, 1189 01:16:45,911 --> 01:16:48,396 so that I could kick the booze. 1190 01:16:50,675 --> 01:16:53,160 And then I drifted back into drinking, 1191 01:16:53,194 --> 01:16:55,058 but now all I drink is... 1192 01:16:56,370 --> 01:16:58,337 Cos I can kind of control it. 1193 01:16:59,753 --> 01:17:03,101 You know, having grown up with the guy, 1194 01:17:03,135 --> 01:17:04,585 being a close friend and everything, 1195 01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:06,587 nobody wants to see somebody they know 1196 01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:09,176 destroy themselves in that way, but you know... 1197 01:17:10,591 --> 01:17:13,663 You now, I kind of, to a certain extent, wash my hands of it. 1198 01:17:13,698 --> 01:17:16,839 I sort of made my attempt to get him clean, 1199 01:17:16,873 --> 01:17:19,186 it didn't really work, and, uh... 1200 01:17:19,220 --> 01:17:21,119 I just let him live his own life now. 1201 01:17:21,153 --> 01:17:23,259 Whatever he's going to do, he's going to do. 1202 01:17:23,293 --> 01:17:25,261 I can't assume any responsibility for him 1203 01:17:25,295 --> 01:17:28,022 in terms of his own personal wellbeing. 1204 01:17:43,451 --> 01:17:45,453 When do you feel bad for him? 1205 01:17:47,663 --> 01:17:49,803 When I see him, 1206 01:17:49,837 --> 01:17:53,116 like, with a bottle, half of a bottle of vodka in his hand. 1207 01:17:54,635 --> 01:17:58,087 And he just wants to be duced, 1208 01:17:58,121 --> 01:18:02,229 cos I know that thought, I have been there, too. 1209 01:18:02,263 --> 01:18:04,852 And it's just... 1210 01:18:04,887 --> 01:18:07,890 I don't want to go back there anymore. 1211 01:18:07,924 --> 01:18:09,788 And he's... 1212 01:18:09,823 --> 01:18:13,723 It took such incredible will for me to get out of that, 1213 01:18:13,758 --> 01:18:14,931 and I don't think... 1214 01:18:14,966 --> 01:18:17,175 I mean, I know Eldon doesn't have that will. 1215 01:18:17,209 --> 01:18:20,074 He doesn't even have the will to, you know, 1216 01:18:20,109 --> 01:18:23,388 get a regular place to stay, 1217 01:18:23,422 --> 01:18:25,528 and clothes and shower, 1218 01:18:25,562 --> 01:18:28,220 and that's too much responsibility. 1219 01:18:28,255 --> 01:18:32,190 You have to be so determined in mind, and he just isn't. 1220 01:18:34,330 --> 01:18:37,126 So, where do you live? 1221 01:18:38,196 --> 01:18:40,750 Well, it depends on my attitude. 1222 01:18:41,717 --> 01:18:44,616 Either jail, cardboard condominium, 1223 01:18:44,650 --> 01:18:48,275 Sickie Wifebeater's, Dr. Heathen Scum's. 1224 01:18:48,309 --> 01:18:49,966 I do the couch tour. 1225 01:18:53,798 --> 01:18:54,902 Um... 1226 01:18:55,869 --> 01:18:58,216 It's like being on the road. 1227 01:18:58,250 --> 01:19:01,219 But I'm on the road in one little area. 1228 01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:08,467 It makes me a nervous wreck. 1229 01:19:08,502 --> 01:19:11,229 Makes me want to drink more. 1230 01:19:11,263 --> 01:19:15,820 I'm going to show you how real kings live. 1231 01:19:17,925 --> 01:19:20,238 Who needs a job? You do. 1232 01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:23,759 Who needs the booze? I do. 1233 01:19:24,898 --> 01:19:28,073 Who's an asshole? You are. 1234 01:19:28,108 --> 01:19:31,628 Who's a creep? I am. 1235 01:19:31,663 --> 01:19:34,700 Let's get out a dictionary and write down the words. 1236 01:19:45,608 --> 01:19:47,955 It's funny how you find your real friends. 1237 01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:50,993 Last I saw him, he was living in a box. 1238 01:19:51,890 --> 01:19:53,098 Oh, yeah! 1239 01:19:53,133 --> 01:19:56,550 He was living in a box on the side of the highway in LA. 1240 01:19:56,584 --> 01:19:59,691 We got to Hollywood, and we pulled over, 1241 01:19:59,725 --> 01:20:04,661 I mean we're, like, sitting in this parking lot in our bus, 1242 01:20:04,696 --> 01:20:07,078 and all of a sudden we hear this... 1243 01:20:07,112 --> 01:20:10,564 There's this empty, deserted, like, broken-down cube truck, 1244 01:20:10,598 --> 01:20:13,394 and we hear this... 1245 01:20:13,429 --> 01:20:14,740 And then we look over there, 1246 01:20:14,775 --> 01:20:18,020 and this whole refrigerator box falls out of the back, 1247 01:20:18,054 --> 01:20:21,023 and El Duce comes crawling out of it. 1248 01:20:21,057 --> 01:20:23,370 And he looks up and he goes, 1249 01:20:24,785 --> 01:20:25,924 "Gwar?" 1250 01:20:51,916 --> 01:20:53,331 See you, brother. 1251 01:20:53,365 --> 01:20:55,333 You wouldn't be able to spare a nickel? 1252 01:20:55,367 --> 01:20:56,644 Spare what? 1253 01:20:56,679 --> 01:20:58,750 You wouldn't be able to spare a nickel, could you? 1254 01:20:58,784 --> 01:21:00,856 Nickel, what is that? 1255 01:21:02,305 --> 01:21:03,582 A quarter. 1256 01:21:03,617 --> 01:21:06,447 Oh, you mean money? 1257 01:21:06,482 --> 01:21:08,070 What are you going to do with that nickel, man? 1258 01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:11,280 You are going to do what? 1259 01:21:11,314 --> 01:21:12,419 Buy booze. 1260 01:21:12,453 --> 01:21:13,903 - Booze? - Yeah. 1261 01:21:14,455 --> 01:21:15,905 Hey, Thirty... 1262 01:21:19,288 --> 01:21:21,738 How do we make money? 1263 01:21:21,773 --> 01:21:23,533 I bum. 1264 01:21:23,568 --> 01:21:25,811 Yeah, but how to be a perfect bum? 1265 01:21:25,846 --> 01:21:28,228 Eldon Hoke. That man's, like, true terror, 1266 01:21:28,262 --> 01:21:29,850 left and right. 1267 01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:32,784 That guy used to work at the Ivar Theatre. 1268 01:21:32,818 --> 01:21:34,337 Get over here. 1269 01:21:34,372 --> 01:21:35,960 What? 1270 01:21:35,994 --> 01:21:38,272 Tell them what I'd do at the Ivar. 1271 01:21:38,307 --> 01:21:39,929 Tell them what I'd do at the Ivar. 1272 01:21:39,964 --> 01:21:43,864 In 1984, he used to work as an announcer at the Ivar Theatre, 1273 01:21:43,899 --> 01:21:46,073 which was a totally nude burlesque theater. 1274 01:21:46,108 --> 01:21:49,111 That's where I became an announcer also. 1275 01:21:49,145 --> 01:21:50,975 Tell them what we did in the light booth. 1276 01:21:51,009 --> 01:21:53,770 I am not even going to speak such things on camera. Sorry. 1277 01:21:53,805 --> 01:21:55,324 I mean, I grew up with him, 1278 01:21:55,358 --> 01:21:58,948 I watched him become El Duce, you know, slowly. 1279 01:21:58,983 --> 01:22:02,952 I mean, from drawing little chopped off arms and axes 1280 01:22:02,987 --> 01:22:06,197 and torture scenes in the fourth grade... 1281 01:22:06,231 --> 01:22:10,166 instead of Bambi pictures and shit. 1282 01:22:10,201 --> 01:22:14,999 I mean, he's always been real different. 1283 01:22:15,033 --> 01:22:17,380 Do you get along with her the best of anyone in your family? 1284 01:22:17,415 --> 01:22:18,450 Yep. 1285 01:22:19,451 --> 01:22:21,177 I love my sister. 1286 01:22:22,109 --> 01:22:25,630 She's the only family I got, really. 1287 01:22:25,664 --> 01:22:30,600 Everyone else is gonna die a gruesome death for their evil. 1288 01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:48,032 How would you like to die? 1289 01:22:48,066 --> 01:22:51,104 Uh, maybe a lethal injection 1290 01:22:51,138 --> 01:22:53,830 or have me a... 1291 01:22:55,625 --> 01:22:57,006 hmm... 1292 01:22:58,835 --> 01:23:02,115 parachute without a parachute that doesn't work. 1293 01:23:05,394 --> 01:23:06,705 Yeah. 1294 01:23:08,776 --> 01:23:12,332 The expression on their face when they go. 1295 01:23:15,093 --> 01:23:17,785 Because they think they had everything going together, 1296 01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:20,478 and then when it's time for them to die, 1297 01:23:20,512 --> 01:23:22,859 get a good look at them! Argh! 1298 01:23:26,346 --> 01:23:28,589 He talks a lot about death and dying. 1299 01:23:28,624 --> 01:23:29,935 How seriously do you take that? 1300 01:23:29,970 --> 01:23:32,869 Well, you know, he first started coming up with that 1301 01:23:32,904 --> 01:23:35,251 about ten years ago. He'd start saying stuff like, 1302 01:23:35,286 --> 01:23:38,013 "I have seen death and I want to die." 1303 01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:40,463 When he gets really drunk, 1304 01:23:40,498 --> 01:23:43,018 he'll go off onto this death trip he's got. 1305 01:23:43,052 --> 01:23:44,985 I guess when he first started coming up with it, 1306 01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:46,435 I got pretty concerned about it. 1307 01:23:46,469 --> 01:23:50,887 I thought it was maybe indicative 1308 01:23:50,922 --> 01:23:53,131 of what was soon to follow. 1309 01:23:53,166 --> 01:23:56,134 And I'm certainly still worried about him expiring early. 1310 01:23:56,169 --> 01:23:58,964 I mean, the guy's been a serious alcoholic for 10 or 15 years. 1311 01:23:58,999 --> 01:24:00,104 Certainly, you know, 1312 01:24:00,138 --> 01:24:01,864 I don't know how much time he has got left, 1313 01:24:01,898 --> 01:24:07,456 but, again, I just sort of close my mind to it. 1314 01:24:07,490 --> 01:24:11,563 I figure my only alternative is to not associate with him. 1315 01:24:11,598 --> 01:24:13,289 I don't want to do that, I mean... 1316 01:24:13,324 --> 01:24:15,740 I enjoy being around the guy when he is more or less sober. 1317 01:24:15,774 --> 01:24:18,122 I like working with him, playing with him. 1318 01:24:18,156 --> 01:24:19,778 He is a friend of mine, 1319 01:24:19,813 --> 01:24:22,091 and I think I just have to accept him for what he is, 1320 01:24:22,126 --> 01:24:27,027 and if part of what he is, is to die early, then so be it, 1321 01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:29,616 although I don't think anybody wants to see that. 1322 01:24:56,194 --> 01:24:57,989 Mm... yeah. 1323 01:25:20,460 --> 01:25:22,979 He is fascinated with people dying 1324 01:25:23,014 --> 01:25:24,671 and killing and getting hurt and all that, 1325 01:25:24,705 --> 01:25:26,880 but he seems to be a peaceful guy. 1326 01:25:26,914 --> 01:25:29,262 Yeah, he's harmless. 1327 01:25:29,296 --> 01:25:31,056 That's the ironic thing about it, 1328 01:25:31,091 --> 01:25:32,748 he's totally harmless. 1329 01:25:33,611 --> 01:25:35,337 Didn't seem like he'd hurt anybody. 1330 01:25:35,371 --> 01:25:38,754 He wouldn't. He is absolutely nonviolent. 1331 01:25:38,788 --> 01:25:40,480 Do you mind taking your mask off? 1332 01:25:48,902 --> 01:25:50,145 OK, put it back on. 1333 01:25:59,188 --> 01:26:02,157 I am an ugly motherfucker. 1334 01:26:02,191 --> 01:26:03,882 I admit it. 1335 01:26:05,643 --> 01:26:07,679 I don't care anymore. 1336 01:26:07,714 --> 01:26:11,821 Do you find his problem with alcohol to be inhibiting? 1337 01:26:11,856 --> 01:26:13,927 No, see that's his own thing. 1338 01:26:13,961 --> 01:26:16,447 He's always talking about dying early and stuff, 1339 01:26:16,481 --> 01:26:19,035 and that freaks some people out, 1340 01:26:19,070 --> 01:26:23,937 but I figure we all got to go at our own pace, 1341 01:26:23,971 --> 01:26:26,457 and maybe the alcohol is preserving him. 1342 01:26:29,563 --> 01:26:31,013 - What, uh... - It doesn't bother me. 1343 01:26:31,047 --> 01:26:32,877 I don't give a fuck what he does. 1344 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:41,713 '...the value of your home. 1345 01:26:41,748 --> 01:26:44,647 'It's even tax-deductible, so consult your CPA. 1346 01:26:44,682 --> 01:26:48,099 'That's 1-800-227-2888. 1347 01:26:48,133 --> 01:26:49,652 'Preferred financial funding.' 1348 01:26:57,315 --> 01:27:00,905 Just because El Duce is bald and ugly... 1349 01:27:02,872 --> 01:27:06,600 ...uses cheap cardboard drums, 1350 01:27:06,635 --> 01:27:09,500 doesn't mean you have the right 1351 01:27:09,534 --> 01:27:11,502 to sneak in there 1352 01:27:11,536 --> 01:27:14,090 and stick your little peekaboo camera up there. 1353 01:27:20,890 --> 01:27:23,099 I like to have people afraid of me. 1354 01:27:24,377 --> 01:27:27,380 - Uh, El... - Don't do that. 1355 01:27:30,659 --> 01:27:32,039 No. 1356 01:27:36,389 --> 01:27:37,735 El! 1357 01:27:40,324 --> 01:27:41,670 Oh, God. 1358 01:27:50,368 --> 01:27:52,681 Whatever it takes for entertainment. 1359 01:28:45,561 --> 01:28:47,425 Yes! Huh-huh! 1360 01:28:47,460 --> 01:28:48,461 Uh-huh! Huh! 1361 01:28:48,495 --> 01:28:50,463 This kicks butt! 1362 01:28:50,497 --> 01:28:51,774 Huh-huh! Huh-huh! 1363 01:28:52,465 --> 01:28:54,052 Nirvana is cool. 1364 01:28:54,087 --> 01:28:56,469 - Huh-huh! Huh-huh! - Yeah! Huh-huh... 1365 01:29:08,998 --> 01:29:12,001 See, I went through all of our videos over here. 1366 01:29:12,036 --> 01:29:13,313 Check it out. 1367 01:29:13,348 --> 01:29:14,694 I have been archiving videos 1368 01:29:14,728 --> 01:29:17,006 since I bought a video camera last year, 1369 01:29:17,041 --> 01:29:19,008 and I got all the good shit in here 1370 01:29:19,043 --> 01:29:22,322 that's going to kick ass royally on this garbage. 1371 01:29:22,357 --> 01:29:26,222 So sit back and enjoy the El Duce, 1372 01:29:26,257 --> 01:29:28,363 the man, the myth, the video... 1373 01:29:29,743 --> 01:29:33,022 and make sure you show it to all your friends. 1374 01:29:40,202 --> 01:29:42,411 No, No, don't do... El, El, El... 1375 01:29:42,446 --> 01:29:44,448 Don't do this right out in the open like that. 1376 01:29:47,451 --> 01:29:51,247 Look at the queer-looking dudes that call themselves rock. 1377 01:29:51,282 --> 01:29:54,492 I say fucking Poison, suck some cock. 1378 01:29:56,736 --> 01:29:59,463 Let me bless my beer. 1379 01:29:59,497 --> 01:30:01,982 This is how you drink your beer when you're a real man. 1380 01:30:08,955 --> 01:30:10,715 The beer gods. 1381 01:30:10,750 --> 01:30:15,444 I am the king that knows how to drink beer, watch me. 1382 01:31:43,152 --> 01:31:44,740 Let's do it, dude! 1383 01:31:44,775 --> 01:31:47,502 OK, how about some Duce nude in the jacuzzi? 1384 01:31:47,536 --> 01:31:48,882 Yeah! 1385 01:31:48,917 --> 01:31:50,332 Get out of here. 1386 01:31:50,366 --> 01:31:52,645 Come on, let's go. Come on. 1387 01:32:46,388 --> 01:32:48,735 There is no doubt, Courtney knowing him well, 1388 01:32:48,770 --> 01:32:51,496 would know, hey, if I wanted to hire somebody to kill somebody, 1389 01:32:51,531 --> 01:32:52,912 El Duce would be the man. 1390 01:32:52,946 --> 01:32:54,569 He would love to do it like that. 1391 01:32:54,603 --> 01:32:57,882 Is that... looks like him right there actually. 1392 01:32:57,917 --> 01:32:59,746 That is... That's the one. 1393 01:32:59,781 --> 01:33:02,059 There he is, El Duce. 1394 01:33:04,337 --> 01:33:06,650 There he is right there. So, he's, uh... 1395 01:33:06,684 --> 01:33:08,755 - Hey, I got some... 1396 01:33:08,790 --> 01:33:11,240 You did some deal with Courtney, right? 1397 01:33:11,275 --> 01:33:12,448 Yeah. 1398 01:33:12,483 --> 01:33:15,072 She offered me 50 grand to whack Kurt Cobain. 1399 01:33:15,106 --> 01:33:17,453 But did she tell you how she wanted you to kill Kurt Cobain? 1400 01:33:17,488 --> 01:33:19,559 Yeah, she said blow his fucking head off. 1401 01:33:19,594 --> 01:33:21,319 I got the shot gun. 1402 01:33:21,354 --> 01:33:23,908 - But she didn't say anything... - Make it look like a suicide. 1403 01:33:23,943 --> 01:33:26,911 Well, yeah, but if he blew out his brains like you said... 1404 01:33:59,530 --> 01:34:01,981 'Hello, you've reached The Mentors hotline. 1405 01:34:02,015 --> 01:34:05,225 'If you are calling regarding the rumors about El Duce, 1406 01:34:05,260 --> 01:34:07,538 'we're sorry to report that they are indeed true. 1407 01:34:07,572 --> 01:34:09,057 'El Duce is deceased, 1408 01:34:09,091 --> 01:34:12,888 'and he was hit by a train two Saturday nights ago. 1409 01:34:14,027 --> 01:34:15,822 'Thank you very much for your condolences. 1410 01:34:15,857 --> 01:34:18,342 'They're are greatly appreciated.' 1411 01:34:18,894 --> 01:34:20,171 [Beep] 1412 01:34:34,427 --> 01:34:36,429 You know how they found El Duce? 1413 01:34:37,499 --> 01:34:39,915 - Dead? - Found him dead with no head. 1414 01:34:39,950 --> 01:34:41,848 Found him on train tracks 1415 01:34:41,883 --> 01:34:44,644 with his head on one side and his body on the other. 1416 01:34:45,541 --> 01:34:48,717 The passing of an American genius. 1417 01:34:52,341 --> 01:34:54,447 El Duce had to leave, 1418 01:34:54,481 --> 01:34:57,899 he had to catch a train with his face. 1419 01:35:07,598 --> 01:35:09,289 Having maybe reached 1420 01:35:09,324 --> 01:35:12,845 the apex of commercial viability with The Mentors, 1421 01:35:12,879 --> 01:35:15,848 why not now just play a type of music 1422 01:35:15,882 --> 01:35:18,229 that you have always wanted to play? 1423 01:35:18,264 --> 01:35:20,818 Well, I think we do, we do play what we want to play. 1424 01:35:20,853 --> 01:35:23,545 Right now, it's what we want to play. 1425 01:35:23,579 --> 01:35:25,202 You don't feel the need to go off and, uh... 1426 01:35:25,236 --> 01:35:27,135 I mean, El Duce doesn't feel the need 1427 01:35:27,169 --> 01:35:30,448 to find his fusion roots again? 1428 01:35:31,553 --> 01:35:33,072 - Uh, no. - I'm just getting back to... 1429 01:35:33,106 --> 01:35:34,073 Yeah, I know what you're saying. 1430 01:35:34,107 --> 01:35:36,040 I know exactly what you're saying. 1431 01:35:36,075 --> 01:35:37,973 When we started out, it was contrived 1432 01:35:38,008 --> 01:35:40,631 to the extent I've already described. 1433 01:35:40,665 --> 01:35:43,047 But that... we're way past that point now. 1434 01:35:43,082 --> 01:35:44,773 It's no longer a contrived thing, 1435 01:35:44,808 --> 01:35:50,468 it's a real legitimate artistic thing that we do, 1436 01:35:50,503 --> 01:35:54,334 and there's very little pretense behind it of that nature. 1437 01:35:54,369 --> 01:35:56,647 So I think we are doing what we want to do. 1438 01:36:01,307 --> 01:36:03,516 I mean, I guess... 1439 01:36:03,550 --> 01:36:07,347 I think El would've wound up the same way 1440 01:36:07,382 --> 01:36:10,005 whether or not he was ever in The Mentors. 1441 01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:13,768 And so I guess I'm glad that, um... 1442 01:36:15,873 --> 01:36:17,012 he was in The Mentors 1443 01:36:17,047 --> 01:36:20,084 so he will be remembered for something. 1444 01:36:20,119 --> 01:36:21,603 El Duce, this is for you. 1445 01:36:21,637 --> 01:36:24,261 I hope you roll in your fucking grave. 1446 01:36:39,586 --> 01:36:41,519 "Bend up and smell my anal vapor. 1447 01:36:41,554 --> 01:36:44,108 "Your face is my toilet paper. 1448 01:36:44,143 --> 01:36:46,007 "On your face I leave a shit tower. 1449 01:36:46,041 --> 01:36:47,698 "Golden showers. 1450 01:36:47,732 --> 01:36:49,873 - "Golden showers." 1451 01:36:49,907 --> 01:36:51,357 I'm sorry, your time has expired. 1452 01:36:51,391 --> 01:36:52,668 Duce! 1453 01:36:52,703 --> 01:36:55,430 when you took a mic stand and you shoved it in your ass, 1454 01:36:55,464 --> 01:36:57,639 and you hit me with it, 1455 01:36:57,673 --> 01:37:00,435 I felt like I graduated from high school. 1456 01:37:00,469 --> 01:37:02,333 - Well, congratulations. - Thanks. 1457 01:37:02,368 --> 01:37:06,648 This kind of thing might have a big enough of an impact. 1458 01:37:06,682 --> 01:37:09,409 It said what it needed to say in such a concise 1459 01:37:09,444 --> 01:37:11,308 yet humorous and pungent fashion 1460 01:37:11,342 --> 01:37:14,311 that I could see it making a lasting impact. 1461 01:37:35,919 --> 01:37:38,576 You've spoken out against all these... people. 1462 01:37:38,611 --> 01:37:40,855 Like, you say you don't hire gay people. 1463 01:37:40,889 --> 01:37:42,063 No, no, no. 1464 01:37:42,097 --> 01:37:43,719 They're not as bad as women, but no, I don't hire gays. 1465 01:37:43,754 --> 01:37:46,515 - But you know that's not... - No, they're really... 1466 01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:48,448 - But you know that's just... - Just kidding. 1467 01:37:48,483 --> 01:37:49,933 You're easy. 1468 01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:55,973 What if you control the entire world? 1469 01:37:56,008 --> 01:37:59,252 Somebody who could rise to political power, 1470 01:37:59,287 --> 01:38:01,910 through nothing more than pushing people's buttons 1471 01:38:01,945 --> 01:38:03,601 and getting them all riled up. 1472 01:38:08,158 --> 01:38:09,918 There is a bunch of famous musicians 1473 01:38:09,953 --> 01:38:11,782 who were trying to close down Gitmo, 1474 01:38:11,816 --> 01:38:13,577 and they are enraged, 1475 01:38:13,611 --> 01:38:15,993 thinking that perhaps their music was being used 1476 01:38:16,028 --> 01:38:17,892 as torture against these inmates. 1477 01:38:17,926 --> 01:38:20,308 How do you feel about that? 1478 01:38:20,342 --> 01:38:23,552 Well, I mean, rock'n'roll has been an instrument of torture 1479 01:38:23,587 --> 01:38:25,347 for as long as I can remember. 1480 01:38:25,382 --> 01:38:27,556 to rape men 1481 01:38:33,735 --> 01:38:37,808 And there are like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven Fs 1482 01:38:37,842 --> 01:38:39,120 in front of the 4th of July. 1483 01:38:39,154 --> 01:38:41,225 What does that signify if anything? 1484 01:38:46,127 --> 01:38:47,438 Last night, 1485 01:38:47,473 --> 01:38:51,891 the number one trending topic on Twitter was Obama Farewell. 1486 01:38:51,926 --> 01:38:54,790 And the second trending topic, no kidding, 1487 01:38:54,825 --> 01:38:57,379 was "Golden Showers". 1488 01:38:59,968 --> 01:39:04,524 I think he's very proud of what he has done with his life. 1489 01:39:04,559 --> 01:39:07,907 I think he's very cognizant of the fact 1490 01:39:07,942 --> 01:39:09,391 that he is creating art, 1491 01:39:09,426 --> 01:39:11,738 and does consider himself an artist. 1492 01:39:12,877 --> 01:39:14,914 I mean, he shocked and grossed people out, 1493 01:39:14,949 --> 01:39:16,088 that's what he wanted to do. 1494 01:39:16,122 --> 01:39:18,745 And he was the best at it, but it killed him inside. 1495 01:39:19,954 --> 01:39:21,438 I mean who wants to go around 1496 01:39:21,472 --> 01:39:25,373 being the biggest, fattest, grossest, most disgusting thing? 1497 01:39:36,211 --> 01:39:37,557 Yep. 1498 01:39:42,252 --> 01:39:43,908 It's art. 1499 01:44:06,412 --> 01:44:08,690 See you in hell! 1500 01:44:13,316 --> 01:44:16,284 No, better yet, I'm in heaven. Beugh! 1501 01:44:16,319 --> 01:44:17,734 Fooled ya!