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Alright, alright, alright,
shut up!

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Shut up!

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Shut your goddamn mouth,

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and let me make
a piece of my mind.

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Alright!

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Everybody
that likes to rape women,

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say, "Sieg Heil!"

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Sieg Heil!

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What are we doing?

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We...

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Yeah!

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What's up?

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Huh? I guess
we're going home.

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I'm trying to bring peace
to this world.

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I hope you guys are happy.

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It's real stoked.

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Peace! Love! Whatever...

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- No it doesn't.
- It happens all the time.

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It's good shit, man.

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We are going to keep on

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trying to strengthen
the American family

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to make American families
a lot more like the Waltons

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and a lot less
like the Simpsons.

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If you believe in free speech,

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people have the right
to burn a cross

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people have a right
to burn the flag.

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It's offending people, and it's
offending somebody's religion

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or offending somebody's love of
country. What's the difference?

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You offend people every day.
Should you go to jail?

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I wanna take the president,

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chop off his head, and mail it
to them in a garbage bag.

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Jerry! Jerry!

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- Jerry! Jerry!
- Thank you very much!

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'And now, here he is,

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'the conservative voice
of television,

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'Wally George!'

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Today we're gonna take a look
into the world of shock rock,

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rock music that is violent,
scary, and even perverse.

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We have one of the most
disgusting perverts

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I've ever seen in my whole life
on the show here.

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Here is El Duce.

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Hold on!

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Hey, hold it!

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How do you describe
your music?

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Well, it's rape rock.

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- "Rape rock"!

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You know, I wanna be polite
to anyone who comes on our show,

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but I gotta say, when I hear
that you promote rape,

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that is not only
thoroughly disgusting,

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but it can't possibly
be viewed as entertainment.

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Well, it is to me.

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Duce!

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I have two sons,

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a sixteen-year-old who's
sitting in the audience now,

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an a ten-year-old,

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and I try to teach my sons
how to be respectful,

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and that sodomizing people...

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Do you realize that
Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible

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was destroyed by God
because that was wrong?

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Do you realize that?

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I like music,

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but I do not like things that
promote violence against people.

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Let me ask you something.
When were you raped?

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I was raped in '70.

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You look kind of familiar,
I have to say.

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- No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Sorry.

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That's just...
That's just plain disrespectful.

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- I mean, that's not...
- He doesn't know any better.

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That's not a point of view.

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Oh, Wally!

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You shouldn't have the right
to be on any stage

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or any radio station
in the United States of America.

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And now,
here they are: Gwar.

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- Uh, you like Gwar, huh?
- Yes.

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Is it OK that some of the
message, let's say, is violent?

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- Would that be OK?
- Yes.

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That's OK?

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Well, um, obviously...

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I think, yeah,
ours is simulated.

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And theirs is real!

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- One time...
- When he's on the sauce!

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When he's on the sauce!

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One time,
we had the misfortune

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of taking El Duce...

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Being on bus with him
is horrible.

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...from New York City...

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The whole band,
the whole band...

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There's sixteen of us,
and all of them in our bus.

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It was like...
no room at all to do anything.

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We were taking him
from New York City to Richmond.

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He had this punching balloon
like kids play with.

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He kept whacking it.

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First, he started
spitting on it,

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like, licking
big loogies on it,

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and then he'd go,
boogey-boogey-boogey...

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so it splashed everywhere.

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- Yeah.
- But then...

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- But then...
- He peed on it.

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And he was, like,
running around the bus,

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going tk-uh-tk-uh-tk-uh...

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into people's face
with this pee balloon.

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He gets on stage,

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pulls his pants down,

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pulls his dick out, and starts
flopping it around and stuff,

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and then some super sick
gross slut

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runs out on stage
and starts sucking him off

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in front of the whole audience.

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- And...
- Gross!

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Eurgh!

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In front of the whole
fucking audience!

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And the bouncers
didn't do a goddamn thing.

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OK, this is because..

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He's one of the weirdest guys
I know, man.

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I like him.

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I like him, because
he's always nice to me.

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He always is nice to me,

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but I really...

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You know, it does bother me
a little bit,

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the way he treats women.

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Very early on,

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he started referring to the band
as "rape rock", which I...

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If you asked me earlier,
was there anything,

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any song or anything
that really, uh...

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I thought was going
a little too far,

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when he first came out
with that,

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I thought that was going
a little too far.

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Personally, I'm not in favor
of rape, you know,

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I think it's hideous, and uh...

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So, to that extent, I think
that's going a little too far,

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but again,
that's his personal vision.

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What kind of people
go to your gigs?

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Uh, we get sort of a broad mix,
you know,

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we get a lot of your kind
of nihilistic punkers

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and some of your intellectuals.

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What do you think
of your brother?

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I think he's rocking.

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Is he?

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- He's a real man.
- Yeah.

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El Duce, your brother,
is a real man?

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- He's a real Aryan man.
- Yeah!

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Yeah! Sieg Heil!

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So El Duce is, um...

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Do El Duce's lyrics offend you?

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No, not really.

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The one song, "On The Rag",
kind of...

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"When I'm On The Rag",
that bothers me.

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But...

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Do you think he is serious
about his lyrics,

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or do you think he's kind of
just trying to have a laugh?

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I think a little of both.

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I don't know which more,
you know,

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which one is more...

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But...

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Does he ever scare you?

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No.

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He's... you know,
he's pretty nice, you know...

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for being a Mentor, you know.

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Where do you think he gets
his ideas for lyrics?

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Mm...

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From um...

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what he's seen other people
cringe about.

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Like a few...

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He loves to see people cringe.

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Even once or twice
I think they picketed,

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feminist groups
have picketed the man.

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Rape rock
is not a joke!

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Rape rock is not a joke!

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What do you think
of the demonstration

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that's going on outside?

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I think it's great.

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'Ted Weatherhead,
CBC News, Winnipeg.'

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You know, a lot of girls
trip out about it, but...

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you know, they shouldn't
take that all so seriously.

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Do you think it's clever?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, the way they come up
with these ideas.

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It's pretty perverted,
but, you know...

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It's really funny
that they think of these things.

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I figure, you know,
El Duce is his own man.

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He's, uh...
In his own way he's a genius

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and a great comedian
and a great musician.

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So I don't want to attempt

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to put his point of view
through my filter.

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You know, I'm content
to play my part with the music

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and whatever he comes up with
in terms of his lyrics, uh...

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You know,
I'm a great El Duce fan,

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just from being in the band,

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it's great to watch him come up
with new lyrics and funny lines.

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So I would consider myself

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probably one of the greatest
connoisseurs of what he does,

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and I'm able -
at least I think I am -

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to recognize a good El Duce
performance from a bad one.

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I think to a certain extent,
he's, like, a great artist

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in that he doesn't really give
a damn what people think of him.

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You know, if you look at a
Van Gogh or something like that,

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these guys are so far out
in their own thing...

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they're just doing
what they're doing,

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they're on the auto pilot.

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And I think he's on auto pilot.

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He's not calculating anything
in minute details.

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He's not saying, "I'm going
to sing this particular line

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"cos I think this is going
to make the biggest impact."

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I think he's going to do
what he...

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what comes naturally.

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It's a legitimate expression
of his own psyche.

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Um...

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That's kind of a tough one,

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I guess maybe
"Free Fix For A Fuck"

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is a big favorite of mine.

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The lyrics that sort of

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pictorialized
abuse to women and all that

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doesn't bother you?

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Well, I like the "Straight
Out Of Compton" NWA tape, too.

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I heard that and I ran down
and bought it.

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It's talking about stuff
that is in some people's heads.

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He'll bring it out. Like...

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If El and them...

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If they were just running around
raping chicks

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that didn't want to be raped
and doing all this shit,

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if NWA was out gangbanging,

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I wouldn't be into their music.

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But they're musicians, they're
not into that stuff at all.

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You know, they're just
talking about a reflection

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of part of the human condition.

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And El has just... He has
such a humorous twist to it,

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nobody could take it
offensively.

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Turn on the camera,
I'm ready to rock.

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You better have that camera
on there, Ryan.

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Is that right?

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Does this light work?

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Yeah.

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Peaceful rape.

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What's peaceful rape?

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That's when you knock
a broad out on...

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Thorazine,

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maybe some, um...

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'ludes.

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So you don't believe in, uh...

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No, no, let me finish.

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Then hypnotism.

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Babe...

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take your bra off.

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Slut.

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Peel your panties off.

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Your clitoris here.

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Lock them legs.

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Uh! Uh! Mm...

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Ah! Swallow it.

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It's as easy as that.

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Heil Hitler.

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Mm!

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Mm, mm, mm, mm,
mm, mm, mm, mm... Mm!

256
00:20:34.578 --> 00:20:35.751
Mm!

257
00:20:35.786 --> 00:20:37.166
Mm!

258
00:20:43.172 --> 00:20:45.520
Have you always drank
for relaxation?

259
00:20:47.970 --> 00:20:49.972
I've been an alcoholic
all my life.

260
00:20:50.007 --> 00:20:52.975
I stole my first beer
from my dad.

261
00:20:53.010 --> 00:20:56.013
- El Duce likes to drink a lot.
- Yeah.

262
00:20:56.047 --> 00:20:57.635
He says he has
an alcohol problem.

263
00:20:57.670 --> 00:21:00.466
Yeah he's a full-on alcoholic.

264
00:21:00.500 --> 00:21:05.712
El Duce when he's sober
is a really nice guy,

265
00:21:05.747 --> 00:21:07.266
when he's drunk he's horrible.

266
00:21:08.577 --> 00:21:12.063
That way I know
that only I can drink it.

267
00:21:12.098 --> 00:21:14.963
Anybody who drinks it,
drinks my spit.

268
00:21:14.997 --> 00:21:16.965
El Duce drinks a lot
when he's around you?

269
00:21:16.999 --> 00:21:18.380
Yeah.

270
00:21:18.415 --> 00:21:20.175
He probably drinks a lot
when he's not around you.

271
00:21:20.209 --> 00:21:21.556
Yeah.

272
00:21:22.660 --> 00:21:24.248
Is that a problem for you?

273
00:21:25.491 --> 00:21:30.219
Sometimes when he's
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

274
00:21:32.118 --> 00:21:34.396
What do you think of El
as a human being?

275
00:21:34.431 --> 00:21:38.814
Well, see, personally
I'm really fond of him, and...

276
00:21:41.334 --> 00:21:42.853
I don't know,

277
00:21:42.887 --> 00:21:45.752
part of it is because we worked
at the Ivar Theater together

278
00:21:45.787 --> 00:21:48.134
for a long time,
We have memories...

279
00:21:48.168 --> 00:21:51.482
you know, about all the shit
that went down there.

280
00:21:51.517 --> 00:21:53.622
You also are
the Master of Ceremonies

281
00:21:53.657 --> 00:21:56.798
at one of the grimiest places
I know of in Hollywood,

282
00:21:56.832 --> 00:22:01.181
the Ivar Theater,
which features naked dancers.

283
00:22:03.943 --> 00:22:06.808
You worked at the Ivar Theater?

284
00:22:06.842 --> 00:22:07.809
Yeah.

285
00:22:07.843 --> 00:22:09.328
Is that the best job
you ever had?

286
00:22:09.362 --> 00:22:10.708
Yeah.

287
00:22:10.743 --> 00:22:12.503
I worked there
for about eight years,

288
00:22:12.538 --> 00:22:15.299
I got to run the spot light

289
00:22:15.334 --> 00:22:17.888
and play the girls
cassette tapes

290
00:22:17.922 --> 00:22:20.994
and play the porno movies
and announce the girls,

291
00:22:21.029 --> 00:22:23.790
all up in the light booth.

292
00:22:25.136 --> 00:22:27.794
Yeah, he was the light man
at the Ivar.

293
00:22:29.037 --> 00:22:30.003
Yeah.

294
00:22:30.038 --> 00:22:32.005
So, he brought Steve by?

295
00:22:32.040 --> 00:22:35.146
No, actually he wanted me
to go dance, do a show

296
00:22:35.181 --> 00:22:38.840
cos the chicks
he had doing his show...

297
00:22:39.979 --> 00:22:42.222
were flaking out.

298
00:22:42.257 --> 00:22:43.465
And I'd listened to his music,

299
00:22:43.500 --> 00:22:45.156
I thought his music
was really good,

300
00:22:45.191 --> 00:22:48.470
but that wasn't my scene,
I wasn't into going.

301
00:22:48.505 --> 00:22:51.128
But my girlfriend Zylmar says,

302
00:22:51.162 --> 00:22:54.925
"Yeah let's go, let's go."
So I said, "OK."

303
00:22:54.959 --> 00:22:58.446
And then when I started meeting
these other guys, you know.

304
00:22:59.101 --> 00:23:00.068
Yes.

305
00:23:00.102 --> 00:23:02.829
Yes. I'm stripper
at the Ivar Theater,

306
00:23:02.864 --> 00:23:05.314
and I'm damn proud of it, too!

307
00:23:05.349 --> 00:23:07.075
Right on, Duce!

308
00:23:37.036 --> 00:23:40.211
Hey, all you sluts out there,

309
00:23:40.246 --> 00:23:41.972
are tired of hanging out

310
00:23:42.006 --> 00:23:45.907
with a bunch of low-life
glam rock fags?

311
00:23:46.804 --> 00:23:48.461
Why don't you go
for a real man,

312
00:23:48.496 --> 00:23:51.395
a booze-guzzling,
porno-reading man?

313
00:23:52.603 --> 00:23:57.228
Just enter the
Mentors Dream Date Contest,

314
00:23:57.263 --> 00:24:01.474
and you can win a good date
with me, El Duce.

315
00:24:02.820 --> 00:24:06.479
Do what they're doing in these
dirty magazines with me, baby.

316
00:24:06.514 --> 00:24:09.827
How long have you been
El Duce's girlfriend?

317
00:24:09.862 --> 00:24:11.450
Um...

318
00:24:12.830 --> 00:24:14.936
About six weeks.

319
00:24:16.351 --> 00:24:18.318
So, how did you run into him?

320
00:24:19.354 --> 00:24:22.115
The first time that I met him,

321
00:24:22.150 --> 00:24:24.324
just hanging out in Hollywood,

322
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:28.674
just hanging out drinking,
trashing.

323
00:24:28.708 --> 00:24:31.711
Do you remember
the first time you met him?

324
00:24:31.746 --> 00:24:33.989
Yeah. Yeah, I remember.

325
00:24:34.024 --> 00:24:35.474
Saw him on the street.

326
00:24:35.508 --> 00:24:36.923
It was him
and a couple of his friends,

327
00:24:36.958 --> 00:24:38.615
and I was the only girl there,

328
00:24:38.649 --> 00:24:41.687
and they wanted to not hang out
in Hollywood drinking,

329
00:24:41.721 --> 00:24:42.791
cos of the cops,

330
00:24:42.826 --> 00:24:44.931
and they wanted to go
to this one place.

331
00:24:44.966 --> 00:24:46.001
First I was up for it,

332
00:24:46.036 --> 00:24:49.660
and then I started thinking,
"This is El Duce.

333
00:24:49.695 --> 00:24:51.490
"There's three guys
and just one of me."

334
00:24:51.524 --> 00:24:53.906
And I just kind of
blew them off.

335
00:24:53.940 --> 00:24:56.771
I was like, "I forgot
I got something to do."

336
00:24:56.805 --> 00:24:59.256
You know, I thought
something would happen.

337
00:24:59.290 --> 00:25:01.223
What did you hear about him?

338
00:25:02.328 --> 00:25:05.331
Oh, a lot of stories.

339
00:25:05.365 --> 00:25:08.299
You know, El Duce stories,
his reputation.

340
00:25:09.473 --> 00:25:11.786
- Like what?
- About...

341
00:25:11.820 --> 00:25:13.581
About being a big pervert

342
00:25:13.615 --> 00:25:17.446
and stuff he does to girls
and stuff.

343
00:25:17.481 --> 00:25:18.724
You know,
cos this guy said,

344
00:25:18.758 --> 00:25:21.658
"Oh, he'll piss all over you,
he'll rape you,"

345
00:25:21.692 --> 00:25:23.936
this and that, you know,
and I was kind of scared of him.

346
00:25:25.351 --> 00:25:28.803
Do a lot of girls come on
to El Duce at the concerts?

347
00:25:30.252 --> 00:25:31.737
Enough do.

348
00:25:32.841 --> 00:25:34.947
Yeah, I...

349
00:25:34.981 --> 00:25:38.364
I think one is enough,
you know, too much.

350
00:25:38.398 --> 00:25:39.814
Duce say anything to 'em?

351
00:25:39.848 --> 00:25:41.712
Oh, yeah, he loves it.

352
00:25:42.402 --> 00:25:44.266
Does he treat you nicely?

353
00:25:44.301 --> 00:25:46.855
Yeah, he treats me pretty good.

354
00:25:49.375 --> 00:25:52.205
How did you all get together
as Mentors?

355
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:55.484
Well, The Mentors
got together in Seattle,

356
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.486
and we've been
childhood friends.

357
00:25:57.521 --> 00:26:02.353
I've known El Duce
since we were in 4th grade.

358
00:26:02.388 --> 00:26:04.563
We went to the same
elementary school together,

359
00:26:04.597 --> 00:26:09.084
and then I met Sickie
when we were in 7th grade.

360
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:10.603
We're all the same age.

361
00:26:15.159 --> 00:26:17.161
1976.

362
00:26:18.784 --> 00:26:21.027
Right when the Sex Pistols
came out.

363
00:26:21.062 --> 00:26:23.409
- Before.
- Before?

364
00:26:25.342 --> 00:26:27.965
First of all, I can't believe
that El Duce is only 32, though.

365
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.519
How old are you going to be
this birthday?

366
00:26:30.554 --> 00:26:35.594
- Same age as Jesus Christ.
- As they were nailing him down.

367
00:26:35.628 --> 00:26:38.597
Hey, if he could be nailed,
I'll be nailed.

368
00:26:38.631 --> 00:26:40.702
If Jesus could take it,
I can take it.

369
00:26:41.634 --> 00:26:43.394
When did you start
playing music?

370
00:26:44.430 --> 00:26:46.708
When I was about
seven years old.

371
00:26:47.675 --> 00:26:49.573
And then I got really
into the drums

372
00:26:49.608 --> 00:26:51.644
and I'd listen to records

373
00:26:51.679 --> 00:26:54.854
that my mom and dad
would play and stuff.

374
00:26:54.889 --> 00:26:57.339
When my dad was drunk
and in a good mood,

375
00:26:57.374 --> 00:26:59.272
trying to fuck my mom,

376
00:26:59.307 --> 00:27:02.448
and they'd put on the Tijuana
Brass or whatever, you know,

377
00:27:02.482 --> 00:27:04.519
and I'd listen to it
and I'd go like, "Wow man,

378
00:27:04.553 --> 00:27:06.728
"I dig that drum sound."
You know.

379
00:27:10.836 --> 00:27:13.010
He started drums very early.

380
00:27:13.045 --> 00:27:16.186
I think he started drum lessons
in 3rd or 4th grade,

381
00:27:16.220 --> 00:27:17.808
and he had so much native talent

382
00:27:17.843 --> 00:27:21.640
that he established himself very
quickly in the drumming classes.

383
00:27:21.674 --> 00:27:24.470
The best student, essentially.

384
00:27:24.504 --> 00:27:27.093
And I think
when he was in 6th grade,

385
00:27:27.128 --> 00:27:30.372
he joined this All City
Youth Orchestra, you know,

386
00:27:30.407 --> 00:27:32.029
which was like
the crème de la crme

387
00:27:32.064 --> 00:27:36.655
of all musicians in Seattle,
you know, the child musicians.

388
00:27:36.689 --> 00:27:39.002
So he played big concerts
at the Symphony Hall

389
00:27:39.036 --> 00:27:40.693
with this youth orchestra.

390
00:27:40.728 --> 00:27:42.557
Then he was later in drum corps,

391
00:27:42.591 --> 00:27:45.698
which is a marching
kind of drum corps thing.

392
00:27:45.733 --> 00:27:47.182
He was always very good
at that.

393
00:27:47.217 --> 00:27:48.977
He could read music very well

394
00:27:49.012 --> 00:27:52.671
and knew his way around
the drums perfectly.

395
00:27:52.705 --> 00:27:56.295
What really motivated me
was Jimmy Hendrix Experience.

396
00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:58.297
I wanted to play drums
like Mitch Mitchell.

397
00:28:01.438 --> 00:28:03.095
Then I got a hip to The Who

398
00:28:03.129 --> 00:28:05.545
and I wanted to play
like Keith Moon.

399
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:12.967
And then I got into
jazz fusion music.

400
00:28:13.001 --> 00:28:16.142
Then I wanted to play
like Billy Cobham.

401
00:28:16.902 --> 00:28:18.938
And then as time marched by,

402
00:28:18.973 --> 00:28:21.354
I just kind of combined
all those styles,

403
00:28:21.389 --> 00:28:22.701
all into my own style.

404
00:28:35.610 --> 00:28:38.751
He was into sort of funk and
jazz rock and stuff like that

405
00:28:38.786 --> 00:28:39.994
which we were into, too,

406
00:28:40.028 --> 00:28:41.409
like Mahavishnu Orchestra

407
00:28:41.443 --> 00:28:43.929
and Chick Corea,
"Return to Forever",

408
00:28:43.963 --> 00:28:45.516
and all that kind of
fusion jazz rock

409
00:28:45.551 --> 00:28:46.966
that was going on at the time.

410
00:28:54.008 --> 00:28:55.423
If you were into this kind of

411
00:28:55.457 --> 00:28:58.046
advanced Jazz fusion
type of music

412
00:28:58.081 --> 00:29:00.739
that not many people were
playing, kids your age anyway,

413
00:29:00.773 --> 00:29:06.296
how did you end up in sort of
the punk rock and metal areas?

414
00:29:06.330 --> 00:29:09.748
Well, I guess in a way it was
sort of a conscious sell-out.

415
00:29:10.887 --> 00:29:12.578
We were so into
this fusion thing

416
00:29:12.612 --> 00:29:14.131
and we tried to play fusion,

417
00:29:14.166 --> 00:29:15.961
we worked up
a lot of these original songs

418
00:29:15.995 --> 00:29:19.930
in the band before The Mentors,
the Eldon Hoke Band,

419
00:29:19.965 --> 00:29:22.588
we played exclusively
instrumental fusion.

420
00:29:22.622 --> 00:29:24.210
But there was just
nowhere to play it.

421
00:29:24.245 --> 00:29:25.694
There was one club I remember

422
00:29:25.729 --> 00:29:28.456
that they advertised that
they wanted that kind of stuff,

423
00:29:28.490 --> 00:29:30.182
and we went in there
and tried to get a gig there.

424
00:29:30.216 --> 00:29:32.736
They wouldn't let us play there.
It just was going nowhere,

425
00:29:32.771 --> 00:29:35.808
so it was sort of
the kind of thing that we...

426
00:29:35.843 --> 00:29:39.018
I guess you'd consider it
a conscious sell-out.

427
00:29:39.053 --> 00:29:42.711
Well, see, no one really
understood our fusion music,

428
00:29:42.746 --> 00:29:46.577
so I said, "We got to
entertain these clowns,

429
00:29:46.612 --> 00:29:49.684
"so let's sing
some dirty lyrics.

430
00:29:49.718 --> 00:29:51.513
"Throw them in there."

431
00:29:51.548 --> 00:29:55.655
So we went from jazz fusion...

432
00:29:57.278 --> 00:29:59.004
to perversion,

433
00:29:59.038 --> 00:30:01.765
and then we just broke it down
into easy rock

434
00:30:01.800 --> 00:30:04.285
that they could understand.

435
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.528
- Punk rock.
- Yeah, punk rock.

436
00:30:50.710 --> 00:30:53.679
The Dean of Students
at Roosevelt High school.

437
00:30:54.887 --> 00:30:57.131
I used to cause
a lot of vandalism,

438
00:30:57.165 --> 00:30:59.133
cos I hated everybody.

439
00:30:59.167 --> 00:31:03.033
I used to blow up toilets
with M-80s, and...

440
00:31:03.068 --> 00:31:09.557
you know, write dirty drawings
all over the walls and shoplift.

441
00:31:09.591 --> 00:31:13.319
I did everything, and set fires,
I did all kinds of shit.

442
00:31:13.354 --> 00:31:18.117
Anything that raised hell,
I would do it.

443
00:31:18.152 --> 00:31:21.396
You know,
I used to urinate in jars

444
00:31:21.431 --> 00:31:24.434
and pour them on the radiators
in the morning

445
00:31:24.468 --> 00:31:26.194
because it was freezing cold
in Seattle,

446
00:31:26.229 --> 00:31:30.647
like it was 40 degrees outside,
you're freezing cold.

447
00:31:30.681 --> 00:31:33.201
You come into the school,
you want to warm up,

448
00:31:33.236 --> 00:31:39.276
and here is a radiator with
urine smell pouring off of it.

449
00:31:39.311 --> 00:31:43.971
I used to shit in foil
and stack it in the freezer

450
00:31:44.005 --> 00:31:46.697
and I'd take it to school,
let it thaw out,

451
00:31:46.732 --> 00:31:49.528
and then I'd smear it
all over the door knobs

452
00:31:49.562 --> 00:31:52.013
of all the classrooms,

453
00:31:52.048 --> 00:31:53.428
and vomit.

454
00:31:53.463 --> 00:31:55.810
I did all kinds of sick shit.

455
00:31:55.844 --> 00:32:00.366
I could go on for hours telling
you all the sick shit I did.

456
00:32:00.401 --> 00:32:04.163
But I was just the number one
nuisance to the school.

457
00:32:04.198 --> 00:32:10.031
So finally I'm in this
language arts class,

458
00:32:10.066 --> 00:32:12.102
and the teacher gets this call,

459
00:32:12.137 --> 00:32:17.211
"Will you send El Duce down
to the Dean of Students?"

460
00:32:17.245 --> 00:32:19.489
Oh, no!

461
00:32:19.523 --> 00:32:23.355
Some dipshit finked me off.

462
00:32:23.389 --> 00:32:25.667
So I go down there,

463
00:32:25.702 --> 00:32:30.017
and sure enough these two idiots
that were working for me...

464
00:32:31.156 --> 00:32:34.469
So I go in there,
acting all smooth and shit,

465
00:32:34.504 --> 00:32:36.368
and I sit down,
the Dean of Students goes,

466
00:32:36.402 --> 00:32:38.853
"Alright, El Duce...

467
00:32:40.372 --> 00:32:43.685
"I have had reports that you are
the one behind everything.

468
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.377
"You're the mentor."

469
00:32:45.411 --> 00:32:46.481
And I go, "What?"

470
00:32:46.516 --> 00:32:49.795
He goes, "You're
the mentor behind it all."

471
00:32:49.829 --> 00:32:52.522
I just drilled it in my head
and I go, "Mentor?

472
00:32:52.556 --> 00:32:53.592
"What do you mean, mentor?"

473
00:32:53.626 --> 00:32:55.456
And he goes, "Look it up
here in the dictionary."

474
00:32:55.490 --> 00:32:57.906
And he throws the dictionary
and he goes, "See that?

475
00:32:57.941 --> 00:32:59.736
"Read that to me."

476
00:32:59.770 --> 00:33:04.016
And I go, "Mentor, the one
that everybody looks up to..."

477
00:33:04.051 --> 00:33:06.087
"You are the one
who instructed all these guys

478
00:33:06.122 --> 00:33:09.884
"to shit and piss and throw
garbage all over the school,

479
00:33:09.918 --> 00:33:11.610
"because you are the mentor."

480
00:33:11.644 --> 00:33:14.785
And he threw this big fit
about me being the mentor.

481
00:33:14.820 --> 00:33:17.133
So I just said, "Fine,
that's the name of the band,

482
00:33:17.167 --> 00:33:20.791
"it's got to be The Mentors."

483
00:33:30.008 --> 00:33:32.010
Rockin' and a rollin'
all the way

484
00:33:39.086 --> 00:33:41.812
Do you guys fight a lot
in the band?

485
00:33:41.847 --> 00:33:44.746
Um, me and Steve don't,

486
00:33:44.781 --> 00:33:47.646
but Sickie throws in the wrench
every time he can.

487
00:33:55.688 --> 00:33:58.622
Boy, maybe you should
write down some questions.

488
00:33:58.657 --> 00:34:01.108
Me and Sickie
bicker probably the worst.

489
00:34:01.142 --> 00:34:02.523
What do you bicker about?

490
00:34:02.557 --> 00:34:04.835
Little petty ass things,

491
00:34:04.870 --> 00:34:06.975
the more pettier,
the more we bicker.

492
00:34:07.010 --> 00:34:08.874
Do you fight about the music?

493
00:34:08.908 --> 00:34:12.084
No, we fight about
whose beer is whose.

494
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.087
- No, I said Miller's Special.
- You owe me five bucks.

495
00:34:15.122 --> 00:34:17.089
How do I owe you five bucks?

496
00:34:17.124 --> 00:34:19.229
Because I loaned you
the money to get it.

497
00:34:21.369 --> 00:34:23.095
Wow, Miller's on sale.

498
00:34:28.652 --> 00:34:30.792
Do you have a car?
Yeah, you came out in a car.

499
00:34:30.827 --> 00:34:32.863
After the gig,

500
00:34:32.898 --> 00:34:36.591
while Broy's waiting around
getting paid, we can trunk up,

501
00:34:36.626 --> 00:34:38.317
so we just better get the six.

502
00:34:39.629 --> 00:34:41.803
Miller in cans,
I hate that shit.

503
00:34:46.739 --> 00:34:48.500
You owe me five bucks.

504
00:34:48.534 --> 00:34:49.811
How do I owe you five?

505
00:34:49.846 --> 00:34:52.366
Because I paid
for the fucking beer,

506
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:53.643
and you owe me two beers

507
00:34:53.677 --> 00:34:56.197
and you wanted me
to loan you the money.

508
00:34:56.232 --> 00:34:58.130
Broy owes you the money,
he couldn't pay you,

509
00:34:58.165 --> 00:35:00.788
so I gave you five bucks
out of that.

510
00:35:00.822 --> 00:35:02.169
Duh.

511
00:35:04.757 --> 00:35:06.621
Just take five dollars' worth.

512
00:35:06.656 --> 00:35:08.071
Yeah...

513
00:35:08.106 --> 00:35:10.763
- I want my $5 back.
- That's the whole thing...

514
00:35:10.798 --> 00:35:13.387
I loaned you five dollars
so he could get some beer.

515
00:35:13.421 --> 00:35:15.734
- Right.
- Right, so you owe me 5 bucks.

516
00:35:15.768 --> 00:35:17.149
No, you get your two beers.

517
00:35:17.184 --> 00:35:18.495
No, you owe me five dollars.

518
00:35:18.530 --> 00:35:20.221
I owe you five bucks
but if you want to get...

519
00:35:20.256 --> 00:35:22.361
And two beers!

520
00:35:22.396 --> 00:35:23.776
Five dollars and two beers.

521
00:35:23.811 --> 00:35:25.123
It's not that hard
to figure it out.

522
00:35:25.157 --> 00:35:29.057
We've got this one clown,
Ed Danky, in our band

523
00:35:29.092 --> 00:35:31.750
that's sort of in the band
and sort of not in the band.

524
00:35:31.784 --> 00:35:35.340
I think Mr. Danky
has something to say.

525
00:35:35.374 --> 00:35:36.582
We're over here,

526
00:35:36.617 --> 00:35:40.414
and this is Sneaky Spermshooter
down here on the ground.

527
00:35:40.448 --> 00:35:42.416
- Time to rock.
- It's time to rock?

528
00:35:42.450 --> 00:35:44.176
We're ready to blow.

529
00:35:44.211 --> 00:35:47.490
- Ready to blow?
- Yeah, heavy rock is coming up.

530
00:35:47.524 --> 00:35:49.664
He doesn't believe
in the Four F club,

531
00:35:49.699 --> 00:35:52.184
and, you know, it doesn't work.

532
00:35:52.219 --> 00:35:54.600
How long have you known El Duce?

533
00:35:54.635 --> 00:36:00.744
Oh, I've known the scum bag
about, oh, 10 grueling years.

534
00:36:00.779 --> 00:36:03.989
In what capacity
have you worked with him?

535
00:36:04.023 --> 00:36:07.095
I do a little background vocals
for them sometimes,

536
00:36:07.130 --> 00:36:10.651
and I jam with the guys
all the time, and you know,

537
00:36:10.685 --> 00:36:14.172
I guess I'm like the
Billy Preston of The Mentors.

538
00:36:14.206 --> 00:36:17.899
I remember you at that bar
when you saw that.

539
00:36:17.934 --> 00:36:20.247
I saw this,
and I went apeshit.

540
00:36:20.281 --> 00:36:24.009
A lot of the songs
are sex oriented.

541
00:36:24.043 --> 00:36:25.217
Were they back then?

542
00:36:26.114 --> 00:36:27.392
Uh, yeah.

543
00:36:27.426 --> 00:36:30.395
Yeah, we kind of hit upon that
as a gimmick.

544
00:36:30.429 --> 00:36:31.706
See, El Duce was...

545
00:36:31.741 --> 00:36:35.158
The one thing
he was known for

546
00:36:35.193 --> 00:36:38.368
when we going
to junior high was,

547
00:36:38.403 --> 00:36:41.544
he was known as the guy
who had all the pornography.

548
00:36:41.578 --> 00:36:44.547
His dad was a porno collector,

549
00:36:44.581 --> 00:36:48.206
and his dad tried to hide
this porno from El Duce.

550
00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:49.310
He had this little work room

551
00:36:49.345 --> 00:36:50.829
that was all locked up
in the basement,

552
00:36:50.863 --> 00:36:52.279
but El Duce knew
how to pick the lock,

553
00:36:52.313 --> 00:36:54.488
and he'd go down there while his
dad and mum were off at work,

554
00:36:54.522 --> 00:36:55.868
and he'd have his buddies
come over

555
00:36:55.903 --> 00:36:57.353
and he'd show them all the porn,

556
00:36:57.387 --> 00:36:59.182
and he'd give
some of the magazines away.

557
00:36:59.217 --> 00:37:00.908
So, El Duce
had a real reputation

558
00:37:00.942 --> 00:37:02.737
as being sort of porn-meister.

559
00:37:02.772 --> 00:37:05.361
And El Duce would do
this drum solo

560
00:37:05.395 --> 00:37:06.948
with these dildos he bought,

561
00:37:06.983 --> 00:37:09.296
these, you know, like,
about 14 inch dildos

562
00:37:09.330 --> 00:37:12.678
he bought down
at the porno store,

563
00:37:12.713 --> 00:37:16.199
and it was just a big gimmick
thing, you know, I guess.

564
00:37:16.234 --> 00:37:17.890
I don't know
if we thought of it like that,

565
00:37:17.925 --> 00:37:19.754
but that was basically
how it wound up.

566
00:37:36.737 --> 00:37:38.704
Not all of our stuff
is pornographic.

567
00:37:38.739 --> 00:37:41.466
I mean if you listen to it
carefully,

568
00:37:41.500 --> 00:37:43.502
you know,
the total catalogue,

569
00:37:43.537 --> 00:37:45.470
now I haven't tabulated it all,

570
00:37:45.504 --> 00:37:50.889
but I'd say maybe 50% is not
wholly concerned with sex.

571
00:37:50.923 --> 00:37:52.787
First thing we do
when we wake up in the morning

572
00:37:52.822 --> 00:37:54.548
- is take a shower...
- No.

573
00:37:54.582 --> 00:37:57.309
- ...and put on a fresh hood.
- Jack off!

574
00:37:58.862 --> 00:38:00.519
This hood smells
like Sickie, though.

575
00:38:00.554 --> 00:38:02.280
- I know.
- Disgusting.

576
00:38:02.314 --> 00:38:04.454
That's what you get
for putting on his hood.

577
00:38:04.489 --> 00:38:06.111
It's not a fresh hood.

578
00:38:06.145 --> 00:38:07.423
Why the hoods?

579
00:38:07.457 --> 00:38:08.907
That was El Duce's idea.

580
00:38:08.941 --> 00:38:11.772
He had this idea when we
put together The Mentors,

581
00:38:11.806 --> 00:38:13.532
that they'd have
this very strong image.

582
00:38:13.567 --> 00:38:15.603
I saw it
in the horror films

583
00:38:15.638 --> 00:38:18.537
and I go, "That's what we'll do,
we'll all wear execution hoods."

584
00:38:18.572 --> 00:38:22.748
You see,
I saw KISS do their thing.

585
00:38:22.783 --> 00:38:26.304
I go, "We got to be
as outrageous as KISS."

586
00:38:26.338 --> 00:38:30.722
El Duce told me that
he scheduled their first tour

587
00:38:30.756 --> 00:38:34.622
by calling around people
and telling them

588
00:38:34.657 --> 00:38:41.595
that he had the most incredible
KISS cover band that there was,

589
00:38:41.629 --> 00:38:44.874
and then he took
just the KISS album,

590
00:38:44.908 --> 00:38:48.291
like, he taped a compilation
of KISS records

591
00:38:48.326 --> 00:38:51.570
and sent them as a demo tape
out to people,

592
00:38:51.605 --> 00:38:54.780
and then, like... You know,
that was his press kit,

593
00:38:54.815 --> 00:38:57.127
it was this demo tape that was
just KISS, and he's like,

594
00:38:57.162 --> 00:38:59.820
"We're one of the most
incredible KISS simulation

595
00:38:59.854 --> 00:39:01.373
"that has ever been,"

596
00:39:01.408 --> 00:39:04.134
- and then they show up and...
- Play El Duce!

597
00:39:04.169 --> 00:39:06.205
...and they're the fucking...
they're The Mentors.

598
00:39:21.359 --> 00:39:23.982
How do you describe
Mentors music?

599
00:39:24.016 --> 00:39:25.155
What is it to you?

600
00:39:25.190 --> 00:39:28.918
Uh, male chauvinism rock.

601
00:39:51.458 --> 00:39:54.840
don't go their way

602
00:39:57.049 --> 00:40:00.846
for their pay

603
00:40:13.065 --> 00:40:15.896
Do you think Mentors music
is a joke?

604
00:40:15.930 --> 00:40:18.968
No it's a form of life.

605
00:40:19.002 --> 00:40:23.248
I just speak about what's
on my mind and what I believe.

606
00:40:23.282 --> 00:40:26.251
So when did the ideology
emerge in him?

607
00:40:27.494 --> 00:40:29.634
Uh, the whole...

608
00:40:29.668 --> 00:40:32.637
become fully flowered you mean?

609
00:40:32.671 --> 00:40:34.846
It was probably after
The Mentors had been together

610
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:38.850
for about two or three years,
when it really...

611
00:40:38.884 --> 00:40:41.266
you know, became very monolithic
like that.

612
00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:44.165
It was just
sort of a slow evolution.

613
00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:46.927
- What about "Golden Showers"?
- Oh, yeah.

614
00:40:46.961 --> 00:40:50.482
See, I caught this one girl
cheating on me.

615
00:40:50.517 --> 00:40:52.726
She goes, "He was so cute,
can you blame me?"

616
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.072
and I go, "Yeah, I can."

617
00:40:54.106 --> 00:40:55.936
"I'm going to have to give you
the treatment."

618
00:40:55.970 --> 00:40:59.180
She goes, "Whatever you want,
I love you...

619
00:40:59.215 --> 00:41:01.424
"Oh, I love you."

620
00:41:01.459 --> 00:41:04.392
I said, "All right,
prove your love."

621
00:41:32.075 --> 00:41:34.112
Now Mr. Chairman,
one point we've already made,

622
00:41:34.146 --> 00:41:35.976
the material which has caused
the concern

623
00:41:36.010 --> 00:41:37.046
is new and different.

624
00:41:37.080 --> 00:41:38.599
It's not just a continuation

625
00:41:38.634 --> 00:41:41.119
of controversies
of past generations.

626
00:41:41.153 --> 00:41:42.638
To illustrate this point,

627
00:41:42.672 --> 00:41:45.848
we would like to show
a slide presentation.

628
00:41:45.882 --> 00:41:47.677
The purpose of this presentation
is to acquaint you

629
00:41:47.712 --> 00:41:49.990
with the type of material
that is in question.

630
00:41:50.024 --> 00:41:52.613
I will be covering the themes
of violence and sexuality.

631
00:41:52.648 --> 00:41:55.271
Bear in mind that what you are
about to see and hear

632
00:41:55.305 --> 00:41:56.755
is a small sample

633
00:41:56.790 --> 00:41:58.895
of the abundant material
available today.

634
00:41:58.930 --> 00:42:02.174
Ozzy Osborne, on his first
solo album shown here,

635
00:42:02.209 --> 00:42:04.245
sings a song called
"Suicide Solution".

636
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.385
Ozzy insists
that he in no way

637
00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:09.043
encourages suicidal behavior
in young people,

638
00:42:09.078 --> 00:42:12.012
and yet he appears
in photographs such as these.

639
00:42:14.635 --> 00:42:16.982
For those of you who can't make
that out because of the lights,

640
00:42:17.017 --> 00:42:20.330
it's a picture of Ozzy with a
gun barrel stuck into his mouth.

641
00:42:44.354 --> 00:42:46.184
My apologies.

642
00:42:46.218 --> 00:42:48.635
How bad can it get?
The list is endless.

643
00:42:48.669 --> 00:42:51.258
This album was released
just recently

644
00:42:51.292 --> 00:42:53.950
by a band called The Mentors.

645
00:42:53.985 --> 00:42:57.229
It was released on the label
Enigma Records,

646
00:42:57.264 --> 00:43:00.819
which also launched
Motley Crue's career.

647
00:43:00.854 --> 00:43:02.372
The album includes songs like

648
00:43:02.407 --> 00:43:05.513
"Four F Club: Find Her, Feel
Her, Fuck Her And Forget Her",

649
00:43:05.548 --> 00:43:06.963
"Free Fix For A Fuck",

650
00:43:06.998 --> 00:43:09.345
"Clap Queen",
"My Erection is Over",

651
00:43:09.379 --> 00:43:12.348
and the song "Golden Showers"
which says these words,

652
00:43:12.382 --> 00:43:14.902
"Listen you little slut,
do as you're told,

653
00:43:14.937 --> 00:43:17.215
"come with Daddy
for me to pour the gold.

654
00:43:17.249 --> 00:43:20.632
"Golden showers, all through
my excrements you shall roam,

655
00:43:20.667 --> 00:43:22.841
"bend up and smell
my anal vapor,

656
00:43:22.876 --> 00:43:24.878
"your face is my toilet paper,

657
00:43:24.912 --> 00:43:27.328
"on your face
I leave a shit tower,

658
00:43:27.363 --> 00:43:29.192
"golden showers."

659
00:43:29.227 --> 00:43:31.298
Mr. Chairman that concludes
my remarks, I thank you.

660
00:43:31.332 --> 00:43:33.956
I'm sorry
your time has expired.

661
00:43:35.992 --> 00:43:38.305
Thanks to the PMRC,

662
00:43:38.339 --> 00:43:41.239
we tripled our sales,

663
00:43:41.273 --> 00:43:43.724
we're like a nothing band
for a while,

664
00:43:43.759 --> 00:43:47.176
then the PMRC came up there
and bitched about us,

665
00:43:47.210 --> 00:43:49.040
next thing you know
our records skyrocketed.

666
00:43:49.074 --> 00:43:51.421
It's all just bullshit.

667
00:43:51.456 --> 00:43:55.046
I mean, he's successful
because he gets a reaction.

668
00:43:55.080 --> 00:43:57.600
It's like there's a need
for that in society,

669
00:43:57.635 --> 00:44:00.292
otherwise it's just
boring and dull.

670
00:44:00.327 --> 00:44:03.019
I mean, people...
you know, they get all upset

671
00:44:03.054 --> 00:44:04.227
and they go to the Senate,

672
00:44:04.262 --> 00:44:06.402
and they do all this protesting
and all that stuff

673
00:44:06.436 --> 00:44:08.266
that just hypes his trip.

674
00:44:08.300 --> 00:44:09.819
The records
start selling more,

675
00:44:09.854 --> 00:44:11.338
and I mean,
mean they're doing the...

676
00:44:11.372 --> 00:44:13.236
They're giving him
just what he wants.

677
00:44:13.271 --> 00:44:15.342
And I got to give him
a lot of credit.

678
00:44:15.376 --> 00:44:16.930
Man, he gets away with it.

679
00:44:16.964 --> 00:44:20.174
He's exactly...
he's a total success in himself.

680
00:44:31.807 --> 00:44:32.842
El Duce!

681
00:44:45.441 --> 00:44:48.824
What kind of clubs were you
playing before the PMRC?

682
00:44:51.758 --> 00:44:53.829
Holes in the wall, dives,

683
00:44:53.863 --> 00:44:56.003
somebody's backyard,

684
00:44:56.038 --> 00:44:58.178
but when the PMRC...

685
00:45:00.628 --> 00:45:02.113
When they snapped into action,

686
00:45:02.147 --> 00:45:05.150
man, we started playing
big halls, auditoriums.

687
00:45:05.185 --> 00:45:08.982
and smell my anal vapor

688
00:45:18.060 --> 00:45:19.751
What kind of bands
did you play with?

689
00:45:19.786 --> 00:45:21.235
Well, we started off playing

690
00:45:21.270 --> 00:45:24.549
with just everybody's local
brother's band, you know.

691
00:45:24.583 --> 00:45:27.794
and then once the PMRC
kicked into action,

692
00:45:27.828 --> 00:45:29.934
we started playing
with big groups,

693
00:45:29.968 --> 00:45:35.318
like Metal Church, Montrose,
Ronnie Montrose, Plasmatics.

694
00:45:35.353 --> 00:45:38.183
Probably the biggest bands
we played with is, like, Fear

695
00:45:38.218 --> 00:45:40.358
and Killing Joke, Black Flag.

696
00:45:40.392 --> 00:45:44.742
What's the best road experience
you ever had with The Mentors?

697
00:45:44.776 --> 00:45:47.123
Probably with Saint Vitus.

698
00:45:48.815 --> 00:45:52.888
I got laid about seven times
on that tour.

699
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.775
If you just look at LA,
you know, the past few years,

700
00:46:17.809 --> 00:46:20.191
there's a huge explosion
of metal bands

701
00:46:20.225 --> 00:46:22.365
that are coming out
and being very popular,

702
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.955
Poison and you know,
whomever else, Warrant.

703
00:46:25.990 --> 00:46:30.028
But I think these guys
are extremely calculated.

704
00:46:30.063 --> 00:46:33.100
First of all, they're part of
a very big money making machine.

705
00:46:33.135 --> 00:46:35.447
Any time you're in that...
your league,

706
00:46:35.482 --> 00:46:37.346
you're talking
to a big conglomerate

707
00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:39.658
putting a lot of money
into you,

708
00:46:39.693 --> 00:46:41.419
expecting you to behave
professionally

709
00:46:41.453 --> 00:46:43.076
as far as not blowing shows,

710
00:46:43.110 --> 00:46:45.181
you know, showing up on time,

711
00:46:45.216 --> 00:46:47.770
producing a record on time,
things of that nature.

712
00:46:47.805 --> 00:46:51.601
This band, you know, Mentors
is not set up for that at all.

713
00:46:51.636 --> 00:46:56.192
I'm not sure if people will
listen to us in 100 years.

714
00:46:57.849 --> 00:46:59.264
I think they might...

715
00:47:01.163 --> 00:47:03.475
as opposed to a band
that's somewhat disposable,

716
00:47:03.510 --> 00:47:05.926
enjoyable music,
quality music,

717
00:47:05.961 --> 00:47:10.034
but yet easily replaced.

718
00:47:10.068 --> 00:47:12.622
So you see Mentor's music
as what?

719
00:47:12.657 --> 00:47:14.866
As art,
I would consider it art

720
00:47:14.901 --> 00:47:19.284
to the extent where
most music that's sold

721
00:47:19.319 --> 00:47:20.527
is less art,

722
00:47:20.561 --> 00:47:22.805
and more of it just product,
it's a commercial product.

723
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.014
What constitutes art to you?

724
00:47:26.705 --> 00:47:30.744
I think art has got...

725
00:47:30.778 --> 00:47:34.058
True art is something
that is independent of time.

726
00:47:36.405 --> 00:47:37.785
Uh...

727
00:47:37.820 --> 00:47:42.135
I would say it deals
with lasting human themes

728
00:47:42.169 --> 00:47:47.278
that are, again,
time-independent to an extent.

729
00:47:47.312 --> 00:47:49.625
They sign a lot
of these glam rock bands,

730
00:47:49.659 --> 00:47:51.247
tens of thousands of these bands

731
00:47:51.282 --> 00:47:54.802
and all look the same,
all sound the same,

732
00:47:54.837 --> 00:47:56.943
you can't tell one band
from the other.

733
00:47:56.977 --> 00:47:59.393
but you could always tell
The Mentors,

734
00:47:59.428 --> 00:48:01.050
cos we stand out.

735
00:48:01.085 --> 00:48:04.329
We're tired of sissy groups
like Motley Crue

736
00:48:04.364 --> 00:48:06.642
and all this sissy stuff.

737
00:48:06.676 --> 00:48:07.815
We want rape rock.

738
00:48:07.850 --> 00:48:10.508
Sneaky, what do you think
of the Beatles?

739
00:48:10.542 --> 00:48:13.131
- Who?
- The Beatles.

740
00:48:13.166 --> 00:48:14.201
They don't rock.

741
00:48:27.283 --> 00:48:30.804
They could say, "Bon Jovi
is really on an up move,"

742
00:48:30.838 --> 00:48:31.909
you know whatever,

743
00:48:31.943 --> 00:48:34.532
I don't care
if he goes up or down.

744
00:48:34.566 --> 00:48:38.329
I've got my lyrics,
and if they don't like it,

745
00:48:38.363 --> 00:48:40.987
they can eat shit out of my ass.

746
00:48:41.021 --> 00:48:43.575
I want to ask you something.

747
00:48:43.610 --> 00:48:46.164
What does your mother
think about you? Huh?

748
00:48:47.717 --> 00:48:50.272
Was El Duce...

749
00:48:50.306 --> 00:48:53.827
Early on was he a sort of
a teddy bear of a guy

750
00:48:53.861 --> 00:48:56.416
or was he mean,
was he good? Was he...

751
00:48:56.450 --> 00:48:57.555
I mean,
he was obviously your friend.

752
00:48:57.589 --> 00:48:58.866
Yeah.

753
00:48:58.901 --> 00:49:00.420
Um...

754
00:49:00.454 --> 00:49:03.216
I wouldn't call him
Mr. Nice guy.

755
00:49:03.250 --> 00:49:05.977
He had a lot of weird aspects
to his personality.

756
00:49:06.012 --> 00:49:07.461
He was...

757
00:49:08.428 --> 00:49:11.362
See, he was from
a family of four, OK?

758
00:49:11.396 --> 00:49:12.777
As far as other kids.

759
00:49:12.811 --> 00:49:16.988
He had two sisters
and one brother.

760
00:49:17.023 --> 00:49:21.096
Now, one brother and one sister
were older than he was,

761
00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:22.994
and they were
very good students,

762
00:49:23.029 --> 00:49:25.963
and his father is... or was

763
00:49:25.997 --> 00:49:30.691
a highly paid, high-up in the
bureaucracy, engineer at Boeing.

764
00:49:30.726 --> 00:49:32.659
He was an aeronautical engineer.

765
00:49:32.693 --> 00:49:35.006
And so there was a certain
amount of expectation

766
00:49:35.041 --> 00:49:36.766
put on El Duce

767
00:49:36.801 --> 00:49:39.010
to follow in the good
student footsteps

768
00:49:39.045 --> 00:49:40.598
of these two elder siblings.

769
00:49:40.632 --> 00:49:44.774
But he just wasn't cut out
for that kind of thing and he...

770
00:49:44.809 --> 00:49:46.638
You know,
I think a couple of times

771
00:49:46.673 --> 00:49:48.330
he almost got put back a grade,

772
00:49:48.364 --> 00:49:52.886
and that kind of scarred his
personality to a certain extent.

773
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:54.301
Was, um...

774
00:49:54.336 --> 00:49:57.304
As a kid or a teenager
was El Duce lazy?

775
00:49:57.339 --> 00:49:58.650
Extremely.

776
00:49:59.651 --> 00:50:01.515
Extremely lazy.

777
00:50:02.723 --> 00:50:04.484
Did he... Was he...

778
00:50:04.518 --> 00:50:06.658
Always since birth.

779
00:50:06.693 --> 00:50:09.558
- Dramatically different than...
- Since birth he was...

780
00:50:09.592 --> 00:50:12.319
And he's one of those people
that work harder at not working.

781
00:50:12.354 --> 00:50:14.218
Like if he would...
You know what I'm saying?

782
00:50:14.252 --> 00:50:16.841
All these lengths to avoid
doing the simple task,

783
00:50:16.875 --> 00:50:18.636
if he would have done
the simple task,

784
00:50:18.670 --> 00:50:20.500
he wouldn't have to go
to all this other bullshit,

785
00:50:20.534 --> 00:50:22.088
you know what I mean?

786
00:50:22.122 --> 00:50:23.261
Does that make sense?

787
00:50:23.296 --> 00:50:26.575
Now, I don't give a damn
about books...

788
00:50:27.921 --> 00:50:31.028
because I don't care what year
George Washington flipped a coin

789
00:50:31.062 --> 00:50:33.996
across the Delaware River
or whatever,

790
00:50:34.031 --> 00:50:37.965
I'll find that out later,
when I'm damn well ready.

791
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.175
So how did he become
such a good drummer?

792
00:50:40.209 --> 00:50:43.868
It was the one thing that he
clung on too that he couldn't...

793
00:50:43.902 --> 00:50:46.215
I think also he could take out
a lot of anger on those drums.

794
00:50:47.147 --> 00:50:48.700
A lot of anger
towards my father.

795
00:50:48.735 --> 00:50:50.495
You know what?

796
00:50:50.530 --> 00:50:54.913
That's me as little bastard
right there.

797
00:50:54.948 --> 00:50:59.021
I'm going like,
"Who's going to fuck up my life,

798
00:50:59.056 --> 00:51:01.851
"then make me the weirdo
that I is right now?"

799
00:51:01.886 --> 00:51:03.094
Right? Tells myself,

800
00:51:03.129 --> 00:51:05.372
"I ain't fucked up,
I ain't weird, I ain't nothing."

801
00:51:05.407 --> 00:51:07.443
What's your family like?

802
00:51:08.686 --> 00:51:10.377
Square.

803
00:51:10.412 --> 00:51:12.931
My dad designed bombs.

804
00:51:16.659 --> 00:51:19.283
He designed
part of the Apollo 11...

805
00:51:21.354 --> 00:51:23.080
that landed on the moon.

806
00:51:24.460 --> 00:51:26.290
What about your mother?

807
00:51:26.324 --> 00:51:29.224
She was a secretary.

808
00:51:29.258 --> 00:51:31.295
What was your childhood like,
growing up?

809
00:51:31.329 --> 00:51:34.021
Oh, my dad
beat me all the time.

810
00:51:34.056 --> 00:51:35.954
He got a thrill out of it, boy.

811
00:51:35.989 --> 00:51:38.474
His eyes would light up
when he cracked that whip.

812
00:51:38.509 --> 00:51:40.338
Bam!

813
00:51:41.132 --> 00:51:43.548
And I'd go like, "Yow!"

814
00:51:43.583 --> 00:51:47.242
The more I yelled,
the more he got a turn-on.

815
00:51:47.276 --> 00:51:48.864
And your mother?

816
00:51:48.898 --> 00:51:51.384
Well, she just closed her ears
and closed her eyes and said,

817
00:51:51.418 --> 00:51:54.145
"It's not real, it's not real."

818
00:51:54.180 --> 00:51:55.940
I said, "It is real."

819
00:51:57.321 --> 00:52:00.151
And I started the ball rolling
with my dad,

820
00:52:00.186 --> 00:52:04.259
because of my grade card.

821
00:52:05.674 --> 00:52:11.783
I got nothing but flunks
and bad grades when I was a kid.

822
00:52:13.233 --> 00:52:14.372
He goes,

823
00:52:14.407 --> 00:52:16.271
"Why aren't you as smart
as your brother and sister?"

824
00:52:16.305 --> 00:52:19.066
And I said,
"Well, because I'm smarter.

825
00:52:19.101 --> 00:52:20.930
"I do not submit."

826
00:52:22.277 --> 00:52:24.141
I mean, that's what
I was thinking on my head.

827
00:52:24.175 --> 00:52:27.213
I didn't tell my dad that,
but that's what I was thinking.

828
00:52:27.247 --> 00:52:30.008
I do not submit to people
that order me around.

829
00:52:30.043 --> 00:52:32.010
He says his dad...

830
00:52:32.045 --> 00:52:34.081
he says your dad beat him
when he was a kid.

831
00:52:34.116 --> 00:52:35.911
Were you aware of that?

832
00:52:35.945 --> 00:52:38.638
He spanked him really hard
with a paddle, yeah.

833
00:52:38.672 --> 00:52:39.742
He did that to me, too.

834
00:52:39.777 --> 00:52:43.021
We feared our father
like Hitler.

835
00:52:43.056 --> 00:52:44.609
We did not...
we didn't respect him.

836
00:52:44.644 --> 00:52:47.371
It wasn't healthy respect,
it was downright fear.

837
00:52:47.405 --> 00:52:51.340
I mean, this is what my dad
used to do there.

838
00:52:51.375 --> 00:52:56.173
He drilled holes like that big
around in his paddle...

839
00:52:57.622 --> 00:53:00.107
to get a good swing on it.

840
00:53:00.142 --> 00:53:02.317
Bam! And crack my ass.

841
00:53:02.351 --> 00:53:07.045
He'd beat me an average
of about twice a week

842
00:53:07.080 --> 00:53:11.049
for not doing this,
not mowing the lawn right,

843
00:53:11.084 --> 00:53:13.604
this or that,
I'm a retarded person, you know,

844
00:53:13.638 --> 00:53:16.814
any excuse he could find
to beat me, he would beat me.

845
00:53:16.848 --> 00:53:19.230
Do you think your dad
feels responsible in some way?

846
00:53:19.265 --> 00:53:21.025
No.

847
00:53:21.059 --> 00:53:26.410
I think he absolved himself
of all of it.

848
00:53:26.444 --> 00:53:29.413
Because, you know,
my dad's a sicko.

849
00:53:29.447 --> 00:53:35.384
He designed bombs
for the Vietnam War

850
00:53:35.419 --> 00:53:38.180
that tortured and killed people.

851
00:53:38.215 --> 00:53:42.184
He helped design, what they
called a Bouncing Napalm Bomb,

852
00:53:42.219 --> 00:53:45.256
which is a spinning bomb.

853
00:53:45.291 --> 00:53:47.085
They shoot it out of B52,

854
00:53:47.120 --> 00:53:50.434
and it goes down
right through the tree line,

855
00:53:50.468 --> 00:53:54.403
and it spins and drops off
canisters of napalm.

856
00:53:54.438 --> 00:53:57.130
So for a five mile stretch,

857
00:53:57.164 --> 00:53:59.615
it blows like in
"Apocalypse Now".

858
00:53:59.650 --> 00:54:02.894
My dad designed
that motherfucker.

859
00:54:02.929 --> 00:54:05.138
El's just like, you know...

860
00:54:06.312 --> 00:54:09.211
He's everything that is
my dad's worst nightmare,

861
00:54:09.246 --> 00:54:11.834
and that's kind of great, too.

862
00:54:11.869 --> 00:54:15.286
My dad needs that karma.

863
00:54:15.321 --> 00:54:17.012
He does.

864
00:54:22.224 --> 00:54:26.884
My dad is demented,
sick, warped and retarded.

865
00:54:26.918 --> 00:54:28.644
I'm normal.

866
00:54:30.543 --> 00:54:32.441
So, you do love your family?

867
00:54:32.476 --> 00:54:34.443
Yeah, I love my family.

868
00:54:34.478 --> 00:54:36.134
Who doesn't?

869
00:54:36.169 --> 00:54:38.033
Do you go home at Christmas?

870
00:54:38.067 --> 00:54:39.241
Nope, not this year,

871
00:54:39.276 --> 00:54:42.140
because my dad told me to
get lost and never come back,

872
00:54:42.175 --> 00:54:46.110
and I said,
"You got your wish.

873
00:54:47.456 --> 00:54:50.114
"I'm going to dance on your
grave when you get cancer!"

874
00:54:50.148 --> 00:54:51.495
Bleurgh!

875
00:55:18.625 --> 00:55:21.283
Alright, come on.
since you're helping me move it.

876
00:55:21.318 --> 00:55:23.630
Yeah, one more thing
to get up.

877
00:55:23.665 --> 00:55:26.150
Wait till you see
my drum set!

878
00:55:36.609 --> 00:55:38.404
Hey, I didn't see you on...

879
00:55:38.438 --> 00:55:40.233
I missed you
on "General High School".

880
00:55:40.267 --> 00:55:42.373
Oh, I'm going to be on
on August 7th.

881
00:55:42.408 --> 00:55:46.032
- August 7th.
- Yeah, one more show.

882
00:55:46.066 --> 00:55:47.930
What are you bringing
to set the pace?

883
00:55:47.965 --> 00:55:51.209
A Walkman
with about 200 cassettes

884
00:55:51.244 --> 00:55:53.142
and an amplifier

885
00:55:53.177 --> 00:55:56.767
and a couple of pairs of socks
and underwear, and that's it.

886
00:55:56.801 --> 00:55:59.908
Hey, look at that, there's
plenty of room in here.

887
00:56:03.187 --> 00:56:05.396
You can fit how many people
in here with the equipment?

888
00:56:05.431 --> 00:56:08.192
We're going to take six people,
and the amps back there,

889
00:56:08.226 --> 00:56:09.849
and the drums
on top of the amps,

890
00:56:09.883 --> 00:56:11.298
so it looks like
pretty good shape.

891
00:56:11.333 --> 00:56:14.129
I think we've got enough room
for everybody.

892
00:56:14.163 --> 00:56:16.096
What's the farthest East
you go?

893
00:56:16.131 --> 00:56:17.960
New York City.

894
00:56:19.272 --> 00:56:20.825
Where are you going to play
in New York?

895
00:56:20.860 --> 00:56:22.827
- The Ritz.
- Really?

896
00:56:26.521 --> 00:56:27.798
Yeah.

897
00:56:36.393 --> 00:56:37.566
No.

898
00:56:41.536 --> 00:56:43.330
No, I think this one's
under control.

899
00:56:44.470 --> 00:56:45.678
Are those tools?

900
00:56:45.712 --> 00:56:47.507
I got a phone number
for tools.

901
00:56:47.542 --> 00:56:50.579
- Here's your hood, Sneaky.
- Yeesh!

902
00:56:50.614 --> 00:56:53.548
I got a phone number
for a guy that's really good.

903
00:56:53.582 --> 00:56:55.032
Don't leave home without it.

904
00:57:02.315 --> 00:57:03.592
So everything else you have

905
00:57:03.627 --> 00:57:06.250
you're just going to leave here
when you leave the road huh?

906
00:57:06.284 --> 00:57:08.528
Yeah, more or less.

907
00:57:09.805 --> 00:57:12.187
- Can we get... You think...

908
00:57:12.221 --> 00:57:14.741
you think Sneaky Spermshooter
will throw it all away

909
00:57:14.776 --> 00:57:16.536
when he realizes
you left without him?

910
00:57:16.571 --> 00:57:18.365
Oh, yeah, he's going
to be damn pissed.

911
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:19.815
So you just sneak in

912
00:57:19.850 --> 00:57:21.748
and tell him you are just
taking the stuff for a minute,

913
00:57:21.783 --> 00:57:25.234
- and you see him tomorrow, huh?
- Yeah.

914
00:57:25.269 --> 00:57:26.891
But you guys are gonna be
in St. Louis

915
00:57:26.926 --> 00:57:28.962
- and he's gonna be here, huh?
- Right.

916
00:57:44.806 --> 00:57:46.117
I'm sitting there
looking at him,

917
00:57:46.152 --> 00:57:48.844
sitting out in the electric car
waiting on...

918
00:57:59.337 --> 00:58:01.547
So, uh...

919
00:58:03.100 --> 00:58:05.240
we were going to kick him
out of the band anyway

920
00:58:05.274 --> 00:58:06.310
right before the tour,

921
00:58:06.344 --> 00:58:12.247
this last tour we did
with the Revolting Cocks,

922
00:58:12.281 --> 00:58:15.146
but we didn't know
how we were going to tell him.

923
00:58:15.181 --> 00:58:16.251
and then, uh...

924
00:58:18.287 --> 00:58:21.946
luckily he was so gone
towards the end,

925
00:58:21.981 --> 00:58:24.846
that he just up and died,
killed himself,

926
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:29.022
shooting up dope,
speedballs, and...

927
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.751
so that was a big load
off our shoulders.

928
00:58:34.407 --> 00:58:36.513
I liked that guy, Ed.

929
00:58:36.547 --> 00:58:38.411
Well, I didn't really like Ed.
He was kind of a...

930
00:58:38.445 --> 00:58:39.861
Sneaky Spermshooter,
you know?

931
00:58:39.895 --> 00:58:42.104
- Yeah, he's dead.
- He's not dead, is he?

932
00:58:42.139 --> 00:58:44.037
- Swear to God, he's dead.
- No way.

933
00:58:44.072 --> 00:58:45.073
He's dead.

934
00:58:45.107 --> 00:58:46.523
- You swear?
- I swear to God.

935
00:58:46.557 --> 00:58:48.663
- Who told you that, Ed?
- I know he's dead.

936
00:58:48.697 --> 00:58:49.664
How do you know he's dead?

937
00:58:49.698 --> 00:58:50.941
Ed didn't tell me
he's dead, no.

938
00:58:50.975 --> 00:58:54.116
Did you feel, I know you kind
of skirted around, so...

939
00:58:54.151 --> 00:58:56.947
Well, see, I was bummed out
because I lost my pad.

940
00:58:56.981 --> 00:59:01.468
And I lost a lot of clothes,
my color TV,

941
00:59:01.503 --> 00:59:05.058
my espresso coffee maker,

942
00:59:05.093 --> 00:59:07.578
my popcorn,
hot air popcorn popper.

943
00:59:07.613 --> 00:59:09.960
I don't wish that on anybody,

944
00:59:09.994 --> 00:59:13.550
but, you know,
he was a little bit of a...

945
00:59:17.726 --> 00:59:20.522
I mean if he's dead,
he was an alright guy.

946
01:00:32.007 --> 01:00:33.940
The way the band's set up,

947
01:00:33.975 --> 01:00:35.839
there's so much infighting
going on,

948
01:00:35.873 --> 01:00:38.427
so much personal stuff,

949
01:00:38.462 --> 01:00:42.017
that I don't think
the band has got what it takes

950
01:00:42.052 --> 01:00:45.089
to totally go to the top.

951
01:00:45.124 --> 01:00:47.160
I just don't see that happening.

952
01:00:48.230 --> 01:00:51.095
And so what drives you then

953
01:00:51.130 --> 01:00:53.650
is just your enjoyment
of playing music,

954
01:00:53.684 --> 01:00:55.997
you know, just doing it,

955
01:00:56.031 --> 01:01:00.139
and you have to enjoy doing it
just for the sake of doing it.

956
01:01:10.287 --> 01:01:13.428
have the right to rock

957
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:58.922
He comes down pretty hard
and is pretty anti-homosexual

958
01:01:58.956 --> 01:02:01.890
and such very terrible things.

959
01:02:01.925 --> 01:02:03.892
Well, you got to understand,

960
01:02:03.927 --> 01:02:07.102
the appeal of The Mentors in
a lot of ways is very juvenile,

961
01:02:07.137 --> 01:02:10.450
and it's sort of
a male bonding thing,

962
01:02:10.485 --> 01:02:18.148
a thing that 16-year-olds
can get together and listen to

963
01:02:18.182 --> 01:02:20.633
and set themselves apart
from all their friends

964
01:02:20.667 --> 01:02:24.671
by being into this band,
The Mentors, and...

965
01:02:24.706 --> 01:02:28.710
As you know 16-year-old males
in general are very homophobic,

966
01:02:28.745 --> 01:02:31.782
and I think that's
where it comes from, you know.

967
01:02:31.817 --> 01:02:33.370
He's not the kind of guy

968
01:02:33.404 --> 01:02:36.511
to go out and "fag bash"
or anything like that,

969
01:02:36.545 --> 01:02:39.721
it's just part and parcel
of the whole Mentors package

970
01:02:39.756 --> 01:02:41.585
that these things
come into the music.

971
01:02:46.038 --> 01:02:47.004
Yeah.

972
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:49.593
- Do you like that guitar sound?
- Yeah.

973
01:02:49.627 --> 01:02:50.801
AJ.

974
01:02:50.836 --> 01:02:52.630
Go get fucked up!

975
01:02:54.563 --> 01:02:55.772
AJ.

976
01:02:55.806 --> 01:02:57.601
I like the devil hearts.

977
01:02:57.635 --> 01:02:58.947
Thanks, man.

978
01:03:01.260 --> 01:03:03.055
What's up, man?

979
01:03:03.089 --> 01:03:04.504
Alright, kid?

980
01:03:04.539 --> 01:03:06.368
Get that hood on right.

981
01:03:12.236 --> 01:03:13.272
It's not...

982
01:03:16.793 --> 01:03:18.484
You're nobody to look up to.

983
01:03:18.518 --> 01:03:20.313
I'll tell you right now
where you're going.

984
01:03:28.528 --> 01:03:30.841
Your next gig
was going to be where?

985
01:03:30.876 --> 01:03:33.395
This White Power movement thing.

986
01:03:34.672 --> 01:03:36.847
See, there's a lot
of these fanatics

987
01:03:36.882 --> 01:03:39.436
down at Huntington Beach
that want to...

988
01:03:40.644 --> 01:03:44.648
They want The Mentors
to play there.

989
01:03:44.682 --> 01:03:47.478
But I don't know, I got a lot
of black friends, too, you know.

990
01:03:47.513 --> 01:03:49.618
I... I got...

991
01:03:49.653 --> 01:03:52.587
Living in LA, you got
all kinds of friends, you know.

992
01:03:52.621 --> 01:03:56.418
I got Chinese friends
and Mexican friends...

993
01:03:56.453 --> 01:03:59.283
You know, it wouldn't look right
for me to go down there

994
01:03:59.318 --> 01:04:03.460
and play for a bunch of...
a limited amount of people

995
01:04:03.494 --> 01:04:06.359
that don't think too deeply.

996
01:04:06.394 --> 01:04:08.706
Why do you, uh...

997
01:04:08.741 --> 01:04:11.054
I mean I believe that whites
have rights, you know,

998
01:04:11.088 --> 01:04:13.125
and if there's a black movement,

999
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:16.059
there should be
a white movement.

1000
01:04:16.093 --> 01:04:17.854
I'm proud of being a white.

1001
01:04:18.993 --> 01:04:22.859
When I become sheriff
of this county,

1002
01:04:22.893 --> 01:04:25.309
I'll be like Buford Pusser.

1003
01:04:26.655 --> 01:04:28.830
I'm going to be the strongest.

1004
01:04:33.835 --> 01:04:37.874
I'm a Klansman,
I'm a redneck, hallelujah!

1005
01:04:38.633 --> 01:04:40.497
And I'm going to get them,

1006
01:04:40.531 --> 01:04:41.843
and you know what?

1007
01:04:42.775 --> 01:04:45.122
When I become sheriff
of this county...

1008
01:04:46.330 --> 01:04:48.298
I'm going to carry a bat so big

1009
01:04:48.332 --> 01:04:52.198
it's going to have spikes
sticking of the sides.

1010
01:04:52.233 --> 01:04:56.271
and then when they see me coming
with my Nazi German helmet,

1011
01:04:56.306 --> 01:04:59.447
the crack dealers are going
to spread like ants.

1012
01:05:00.379 --> 01:05:02.691
But to tell you the truth...

1013
01:06:00.577 --> 01:06:02.303
I'm American all the way.

1014
01:06:04.857 --> 01:06:06.686
All liberals must die.

1015
01:06:06.721 --> 01:06:08.274
Why?

1016
01:06:08.309 --> 01:06:13.003
They stand up for gangs
and wars and literacy and...

1017
01:06:14.591 --> 01:06:16.834
How the hell
do they expect to...

1018
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:21.632
That calls for a drink.

1019
01:06:24.394 --> 01:06:26.672
I like him
because he's a Nazi.

1020
01:06:29.847 --> 01:06:31.401
So you agree
with both the liberals

1021
01:06:31.435 --> 01:06:33.196
and the conservatives?

1022
01:06:42.101 --> 01:06:43.344
What do you think of that?

1023
01:06:43.378 --> 01:06:46.968
I think it's a pile of crap,
we're already overpopulated.

1024
01:06:49.315 --> 01:06:51.007
What are they going
to feed them?

1025
01:06:51.041 --> 01:06:54.079
Alfalfa leaves
and welfare stamps?

1026
01:06:56.391 --> 01:06:57.565
What's that?

1027
01:07:04.882 --> 01:07:06.436
They don't want to pay us,

1028
01:07:06.470 --> 01:07:08.955
but if they want us that bad,

1029
01:07:08.990 --> 01:07:11.717
they'll have to pay us 150 bucks
and a keg of beer.

1030
01:07:11.751 --> 01:07:16.204
As far as El Duce's
sort of philosophy

1031
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:19.242
on Nazism and homosexuals...

1032
01:07:19.276 --> 01:07:20.898
Oh, he picked that up
from a friend.

1033
01:07:20.933 --> 01:07:24.005
I think he picked that up from
a friend of his a while back.

1034
01:07:24.040 --> 01:07:26.007
That's just something
he's latched on to

1035
01:07:26.042 --> 01:07:27.560
just to be offensive.

1036
01:07:27.595 --> 01:07:29.286
It's not to be taken seriously?

1037
01:07:29.321 --> 01:07:33.290
No, one of his best friends
is as black as your pants.

1038
01:07:34.257 --> 01:07:36.190
Are you racist at all?

1039
01:07:36.224 --> 01:07:37.398
No.

1040
01:07:38.295 --> 01:07:40.435
I got a lot of black friends.

1041
01:07:40.470 --> 01:07:43.266
Do you think
he really idolizes Hitler?

1042
01:07:43.300 --> 01:07:46.372
Not in a serious sense,
I don't think so.

1043
01:07:46.407 --> 01:07:48.064
Just in terms
of the entertainment of it?

1044
01:07:48.098 --> 01:07:49.341
Yeah, I think he...

1045
01:07:49.375 --> 01:07:51.515
In terms of
the entertainment, yes.

1046
01:07:52.758 --> 01:07:54.380
But no, he doesn't
idolize Hitler,

1047
01:07:54.415 --> 01:07:56.865
certainly, you know,
doesn't read books about Hitler,

1048
01:07:56.900 --> 01:07:59.799
nor have pictures of Hitler
up on his wall or anything.

1049
01:08:01.456 --> 01:08:03.182
Your dad beat you,

1050
01:08:03.217 --> 01:08:05.322
and you resented that
and you hated that,

1051
01:08:05.357 --> 01:08:08.084
and yet people
like Hitler and Idi Amin,

1052
01:08:08.118 --> 01:08:10.431
brutalize and torture people,
and you like that.

1053
01:08:10.465 --> 01:08:12.709
- Yeah, I do.
- How do you justify that?

1054
01:08:12.743 --> 01:08:14.090
Because it's entertainment,

1055
01:08:14.124 --> 01:08:18.094
and I've finally grown up to
realize what a fun party he is.

1056
01:08:18.128 --> 01:08:19.336
Did you think
it was entertainment

1057
01:08:19.371 --> 01:08:20.406
when your dad was beating you?

1058
01:08:20.441 --> 01:08:22.339
Oh, yeah,
he got a kick out of it.

1059
01:08:22.374 --> 01:08:23.513
You didn't, though?

1060
01:08:23.547 --> 01:08:25.515
Hell no, I was a victim of it.

1061
01:08:25.549 --> 01:08:27.137
You know what it's like
to be the victim,

1062
01:08:27.172 --> 01:08:28.897
how come you like
the idea of it?

1063
01:08:28.932 --> 01:08:30.002
Because you grow up,

1064
01:08:30.036 --> 01:08:31.866
and now I'm going to do it
to somebody else,

1065
01:08:31.900 --> 01:08:34.765
cos my dad did it to me.

1066
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:36.698
Is that fair to the person
you do it to, though?

1067
01:08:36.733 --> 01:08:40.012
Hell no, he's going to learn
how to do it to the next victim.

1068
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.672
It's a chain reaction, brother.

1069
01:09:00.343 --> 01:09:07.453
Mom, if it were only you and
El Duce in the room together,

1070
01:09:07.488 --> 01:09:11.077
what do you want
to just say to him?

1071
01:09:11.112 --> 01:09:13.045
You know what you're doing
to kids?

1072
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:16.082
Do you realize
that you're making boys think

1073
01:09:16.117 --> 01:09:18.050
that they can go out
and do this to girls,

1074
01:09:18.084 --> 01:09:19.534
and take their innocence away

1075
01:09:19.569 --> 01:09:21.709
when they don't want it
taken away?

1076
01:09:21.743 --> 01:09:23.780
Well, girls shouldn't go
out there advertising for it.

1077
01:09:23.814 --> 01:09:26.334
No, I'm sorry,
I wasn't advertising for it,

1078
01:09:26.369 --> 01:09:27.749
I was only 12 years old.

1079
01:09:38.898 --> 01:09:41.832
This dive is where
The Mentors started from.

1080
01:09:44.249 --> 01:09:46.975
They threw me out of here

1081
01:09:47.010 --> 01:09:51.014
because Stoney T said
I set fire to the dumpster.

1082
01:09:52.567 --> 01:09:56.192
Let me tell you I'm going to buy
this club and fire everybody.

1083
01:09:57.641 --> 01:10:00.092
But these guys are my friends.

1084
01:10:00.126 --> 01:10:02.094
That's right, brother.

1085
01:10:02.128 --> 01:10:04.648
- Eldon!
- Yeah, what's up there, buddy?

1086
01:10:26.152 --> 01:10:28.258
How are you doin'?

1087
01:10:28.293 --> 01:10:30.709
This is El Duce.
I named my dog after him.

1088
01:10:30.743 --> 01:10:32.193
"I named my dog after him!"

1089
01:10:32.228 --> 01:10:33.608
- What?
- I named my dog after him.

1090
01:10:36.370 --> 01:10:38.199
I'm your fucking wife, asshole.

1091
01:10:51.833 --> 01:10:53.283
Good to see you.

1092
01:11:34.669 --> 01:11:36.015
OK.

1093
01:11:37.051 --> 01:11:38.742
Big stash.

1094
01:11:43.264 --> 01:11:44.300
There you go.

1095
01:11:44.334 --> 01:11:46.129
Thanks for welfare.

1096
01:11:54.586 --> 01:11:57.796
And then, see,
he works part-time for me now,

1097
01:11:57.830 --> 01:12:00.350
so he'll help me in my business.

1098
01:12:00.385 --> 01:12:03.802
So we got this mutual thing
going there.

1099
01:12:03.836 --> 01:12:05.148
What do you do?

1100
01:12:05.182 --> 01:12:07.253
I do private parties.

1101
01:12:07.288 --> 01:12:09.601
I'm an entertainer, too,
and he's...

1102
01:12:09.635 --> 01:12:12.017
He comes a lot,
he carries my shit in and out,

1103
01:12:12.051 --> 01:12:14.571
cos I go do private parties
in people's houses,

1104
01:12:14.606 --> 01:12:16.539
he carries the shit
in and out for me.

1105
01:12:16.573 --> 01:12:18.092
What kind of work do you do?

1106
01:12:18.126 --> 01:12:21.026
I paint apartments,
do some plumbing.

1107
01:12:22.545 --> 01:12:23.753
Movie extra work.

1108
01:12:23.787 --> 01:12:26.307
well, that sounds pretty bad.

1109
01:12:26.342 --> 01:12:29.655
Well, it's not good news.

1110
01:12:29.690 --> 01:12:31.416
But it's better
than the gas chamber.

1111
01:12:34.004 --> 01:12:36.144
How many 40 ounces
do you drink a day?

1112
01:12:37.422 --> 01:12:39.458
I don't know, about
two or three, sometimes four,

1113
01:12:39.493 --> 01:12:42.219
sometimes six, sometimes eight.

1114
01:12:43.497 --> 01:12:45.257
How many before you pass out?

1115
01:12:46.707 --> 01:12:48.467
Probably around six.

1116
01:12:50.227 --> 01:12:52.160
Do you pretty much
pass out every night?

1117
01:12:53.092 --> 01:12:55.232
No, I'm...

1118
01:12:55.267 --> 01:12:57.683
Some nights I don't even sleep.

1119
01:12:57.718 --> 01:12:58.822
How is, uh...

1120
01:12:58.857 --> 01:13:03.793
Has El Duce's alcoholism
ever affected shows?

1121
01:13:03.827 --> 01:13:06.692
I mean, I love being
in the band and everything,

1122
01:13:06.727 --> 01:13:09.419
but it's affected
the band to such a degree

1123
01:13:09.454 --> 01:13:13.319
that probably only 50%
of the shows we're gonna do

1124
01:13:13.354 --> 01:13:14.562
are gonna be any good,

1125
01:13:14.597 --> 01:13:17.047
just due to the fact
of the alcohol problem.

1126
01:13:17.082 --> 01:13:19.533
I mean there's been more shows
than I could count

1127
01:13:19.567 --> 01:13:21.707
where he's been so out of it

1128
01:13:21.742 --> 01:13:24.296
that he literally
could not even play,

1129
01:13:24.330 --> 01:13:26.402
barely even talk.

1130
01:13:28.507 --> 01:13:30.544
He's even gotten sloppy
on his drums,

1131
01:13:30.578 --> 01:13:32.822
I mean there's
another side of...

1132
01:13:32.856 --> 01:13:34.720
he just cruises.

1133
01:13:34.755 --> 01:13:39.069
This lyric shit is the same
variations of the same crap.

1134
01:13:39.104 --> 01:13:40.277
He's lazy about that,

1135
01:13:40.312 --> 01:13:42.279
he can't even
write lyrics anymore,

1136
01:13:42.314 --> 01:13:45.317
he just goes and improvises
recordings and everything.

1137
01:14:03.818 --> 01:14:06.821
So that has been
extremely detrimental,

1138
01:14:06.856 --> 01:14:09.306
now of course
there has been lot of times

1139
01:14:09.341 --> 01:14:10.584
when it's been humorous...

1140
01:14:10.618 --> 01:14:13.828
El Duce
might get mad about this one,

1141
01:14:13.863 --> 01:14:19.040
but this one place in Florida
where he was frying...

1142
01:14:19.075 --> 01:14:23.079
I'm going to fucking get
in the ring, and I'm gonna...

1143
01:14:23.113 --> 01:14:24.563
Ooh!

1144
01:14:25.599 --> 01:14:27.739
Yeah. Maybe
I'm gonna be a wrestler.

1145
01:14:29.568 --> 01:14:31.881
The Billygoat!

1146
01:14:31.915 --> 01:14:33.365
Everybody thought he was
talking to somebody, like,

1147
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:34.366
"Who is he talking to?"

1148
01:14:34.400 --> 01:14:37.473
This was, like,
four hours' talking,

1149
01:14:37.507 --> 01:14:42.616
you know, all this shit,
like the wrestling guys in WWE?

1150
01:14:42.650 --> 01:14:45.135
Doing all that shit
for four hours,

1151
01:14:45.170 --> 01:14:49.277
and finally I got up to see
who he was talking to,

1152
01:14:49.312 --> 01:14:50.865
and he's talking in the mirror.

1153
01:14:50.900 --> 01:14:52.177
He'd say stuff about,

1154
01:14:52.211 --> 01:14:54.800
"Yeah, I'm gonna
kick this guy's ass."

1155
01:14:54.835 --> 01:14:57.078
You know, he's doing all...

1156
01:14:58.286 --> 01:15:00.288
That was really funny.

1157
01:15:02.843 --> 01:15:04.085
I'm going to take on anyone,

1158
01:15:04.120 --> 01:15:06.812
I'll lose the match,
who cares?

1159
01:15:07.986 --> 01:15:11.265
I'll get the chicks
and the money afterwards.

1160
01:15:11.299 --> 01:15:15.476
Do you feel that the band kind
of keeps him from getting clean?

1161
01:15:16.512 --> 01:15:17.789
Uh...

1162
01:15:19.722 --> 01:15:23.277
Well no, no, I don't think so,
I don't think so.

1163
01:15:23.311 --> 01:15:26.245
I mean, to a certain extent
his persona of El Duce

1164
01:15:26.280 --> 01:15:29.490
is being, you know,
this rock and roll party animal.

1165
01:15:30.836 --> 01:15:36.152
Sure, that reinforces that
behavior to a certain extent.

1166
01:15:36.186 --> 01:15:37.809
But to point
to any one thing and say,

1167
01:15:37.843 --> 01:15:40.087
"That's why he's the way he is,"

1168
01:15:40.121 --> 01:15:44.885
or "If he wasn't doing that,
he wouldn't be drinking,"

1169
01:15:44.919 --> 01:15:47.335
I don't think one can make
those statements or assumptions.

1170
01:15:47.370 --> 01:15:50.373
I think alcoholism
is a very tricky thing

1171
01:15:50.407 --> 01:15:53.410
and certainly there's millions
of alcoholics in the world

1172
01:15:53.445 --> 01:15:55.171
who aren't in rock bands,

1173
01:15:55.205 --> 01:15:59.347
you know, your doctors,
lawyers, truck drivers...

1174
01:15:59.382 --> 01:16:00.935
Drug abuse and alcoholism,

1175
01:16:00.970 --> 01:16:03.420
they're chronic endemic problems
with people,

1176
01:16:03.455 --> 01:16:06.044
and it's not necessarily
attributed to any one thing

1177
01:16:06.078 --> 01:16:08.184
or any two or three things.

1178
01:16:08.218 --> 01:16:12.913
I started messing around
with Vodka 100 Proof Smirnoff,

1179
01:16:12.947 --> 01:16:14.880
the blue bottles,

1180
01:16:14.915 --> 01:16:17.780
and I was drinking that shit,
a fifth a day,

1181
01:16:17.814 --> 01:16:20.334
and that just tears
your shit right up.

1182
01:16:21.300 --> 01:16:23.717
Your shit is gone
within a month.

1183
01:16:24.649 --> 01:16:27.065
You know,
drinking that stiff.

1184
01:16:27.099 --> 01:16:30.758
Cos I thought I was Superman,
I could do anything, you know.

1185
01:16:32.035 --> 01:16:36.212
And then I woke up
in the hospital,

1186
01:16:36.246 --> 01:16:38.317
tubes stuck in my arms
and stuff,

1187
01:16:38.352 --> 01:16:41.942
and I was like,
"I got to do something."

1188
01:16:43.426 --> 01:16:45.877
They gave me all these
knock-out pills and shit,

1189
01:16:45.911 --> 01:16:48.396
so that I could kick the booze.

1190
01:16:50.675 --> 01:16:53.160
And then I drifted
back into drinking,

1191
01:16:53.194 --> 01:16:55.058
but now all I drink is...

1192
01:16:56.370 --> 01:16:58.337
Cos I can kind of control it.

1193
01:16:59.753 --> 01:17:03.101
You know, having grown up
with the guy,

1194
01:17:03.135 --> 01:17:04.585
being a close friend
and everything,

1195
01:17:04.620 --> 01:17:06.587
nobody wants to see
somebody they know

1196
01:17:06.622 --> 01:17:09.176
destroy themselves in that way,
but you know...

1197
01:17:10.591 --> 01:17:13.663
You now, I kind of, to a certain
extent, wash my hands of it.

1198
01:17:13.698 --> 01:17:16.839
I sort of made my attempt
to get him clean,

1199
01:17:16.873 --> 01:17:19.186
it didn't really work,
and, uh...

1200
01:17:19.220 --> 01:17:21.119
I just let him
live his own life now.

1201
01:17:21.153 --> 01:17:23.259
Whatever he's going to do,
he's going to do.

1202
01:17:23.293 --> 01:17:25.261
I can't assume
any responsibility for him

1203
01:17:25.295 --> 01:17:28.022
in terms of his own
personal wellbeing.

1204
01:17:43.451 --> 01:17:45.453
When do you feel bad for him?

1205
01:17:47.663 --> 01:17:49.803
When I see him,

1206
01:17:49.837 --> 01:17:53.116
like, with a bottle, half of
a bottle of vodka in his hand.

1207
01:17:54.635 --> 01:17:58.087
And he just wants to be duced,

1208
01:17:58.121 --> 01:18:02.229
cos I know that thought,
I have been there, too.

1209
01:18:02.263 --> 01:18:04.852
And it's just...

1210
01:18:04.887 --> 01:18:07.890
I don't want to go
back there anymore.

1211
01:18:07.924 --> 01:18:09.788
And he's...

1212
01:18:09.823 --> 01:18:13.723
It took such incredible will
for me to get out of that,

1213
01:18:13.758 --> 01:18:14.931
and I don't think...

1214
01:18:14.966 --> 01:18:17.175
I mean, I know Eldon
doesn't have that will.

1215
01:18:17.209 --> 01:18:20.074
He doesn't even have
the will to, you know,

1216
01:18:20.109 --> 01:18:23.388
get a regular place to stay,

1217
01:18:23.422 --> 01:18:25.528
and clothes and shower,

1218
01:18:25.562 --> 01:18:28.220
and that's too much
responsibility.

1219
01:18:28.255 --> 01:18:32.190
You have to be so determined
in mind, and he just isn't.

1220
01:18:34.330 --> 01:18:37.126
So, where do you live?

1221
01:18:38.196 --> 01:18:40.750
Well, it depends on my attitude.

1222
01:18:41.717 --> 01:18:44.616
Either jail,
cardboard condominium,

1223
01:18:44.650 --> 01:18:48.275
Sickie Wifebeater's,
Dr. Heathen Scum's.

1224
01:18:48.309 --> 01:18:49.966
I do the couch tour.

1225
01:18:53.798 --> 01:18:54.902
Um...

1226
01:18:55.869 --> 01:18:58.216
It's like being on the road.

1227
01:18:58.250 --> 01:19:01.219
But I'm on the road
in one little area.

1228
01:19:06.500 --> 01:19:08.467
It makes me a nervous wreck.

1229
01:19:08.502 --> 01:19:11.229
Makes me want to drink more.

1230
01:19:11.263 --> 01:19:15.820
I'm going to show you
how real kings live.

1231
01:19:17.925 --> 01:19:20.238
Who needs a job?
You do.

1232
01:19:21.480 --> 01:19:23.759
Who needs the booze?
I do.

1233
01:19:24.898 --> 01:19:28.073
Who's an asshole?
You are.

1234
01:19:28.108 --> 01:19:31.628
Who's a creep?
I am.

1235
01:19:31.663 --> 01:19:34.700
Let's get out a dictionary
and write down the words.

1236
01:19:45.608 --> 01:19:47.955
It's funny how you find
your real friends.

1237
01:19:47.990 --> 01:19:50.993
Last I saw him,
he was living in a box.

1238
01:19:51.890 --> 01:19:53.098
Oh, yeah!

1239
01:19:53.133 --> 01:19:56.550
He was living in a box on
the side of the highway in LA.

1240
01:19:56.584 --> 01:19:59.691
We got to Hollywood,
and we pulled over,

1241
01:19:59.725 --> 01:20:04.661
I mean we're, like, sitting
in this parking lot in our bus,

1242
01:20:04.696 --> 01:20:07.078
and all of a sudden
we hear this...

1243
01:20:07.112 --> 01:20:10.564
There's this empty, deserted,
like, broken-down cube truck,

1244
01:20:10.598 --> 01:20:13.394
and we hear this...

1245
01:20:13.429 --> 01:20:14.740
And then we look over there,

1246
01:20:14.775 --> 01:20:18.020
and this whole refrigerator box
falls out of the back,

1247
01:20:18.054 --> 01:20:21.023
and El Duce
comes crawling out of it.

1248
01:20:21.057 --> 01:20:23.370
And he looks up and he goes,

1249
01:20:24.785 --> 01:20:25.924
"Gwar?"

1250
01:20:51.916 --> 01:20:53.331
See you, brother.

1251
01:20:53.365 --> 01:20:55.333
You wouldn't be able
to spare a nickel?

1252
01:20:55.367 --> 01:20:56.644
Spare what?

1253
01:20:56.679 --> 01:20:58.750
You wouldn't be able
to spare a nickel, could you?

1254
01:20:58.784 --> 01:21:00.856
Nickel, what is that?

1255
01:21:02.305 --> 01:21:03.582
A quarter.

1256
01:21:03.617 --> 01:21:06.447
Oh, you mean money?

1257
01:21:06.482 --> 01:21:08.070
What are you going to do
with that nickel, man?

1258
01:21:09.865 --> 01:21:11.280
You are going to do what?

1259
01:21:11.314 --> 01:21:12.419
Buy booze.

1260
01:21:12.453 --> 01:21:13.903
- Booze?
- Yeah.

1261
01:21:14.455 --> 01:21:15.905
Hey, Thirty...

1262
01:21:19.288 --> 01:21:21.738
How do we make money?

1263
01:21:21.773 --> 01:21:23.533
I bum.

1264
01:21:23.568 --> 01:21:25.811
Yeah, but how to be
a perfect bum?

1265
01:21:25.846 --> 01:21:28.228
Eldon Hoke.
That man's, like, true terror,

1266
01:21:28.262 --> 01:21:29.850
left and right.

1267
01:21:30.886 --> 01:21:32.784
That guy used to work
at the Ivar Theatre.

1268
01:21:32.818 --> 01:21:34.337
Get over here.

1269
01:21:34.372 --> 01:21:35.960
What?

1270
01:21:35.994 --> 01:21:38.272
Tell them
what I'd do at the Ivar.

1271
01:21:38.307 --> 01:21:39.929
Tell them what I'd do
at the Ivar.

1272
01:21:39.964 --> 01:21:43.864
In 1984, he used to work as an
announcer at the Ivar Theatre,

1273
01:21:43.899 --> 01:21:46.073
which was a totally nude
burlesque theater.

1274
01:21:46.108 --> 01:21:49.111
That's where I became
an announcer also.

1275
01:21:49.145 --> 01:21:50.975
Tell them what we did
in the light booth.

1276
01:21:51.009 --> 01:21:53.770
I am not even going to speak
such things on camera. Sorry.

1277
01:21:53.805 --> 01:21:55.324
I mean,
I grew up with him,

1278
01:21:55.358 --> 01:21:58.948
I watched him become El Duce,
you know, slowly.

1279
01:21:58.983 --> 01:22:02.952
I mean, from drawing
little chopped off arms and axes

1280
01:22:02.987 --> 01:22:06.197
and torture scenes
in the fourth grade...

1281
01:22:06.231 --> 01:22:10.166
instead of
Bambi pictures and shit.

1282
01:22:10.201 --> 01:22:14.999
I mean, he's always been
real different.

1283
01:22:15.033 --> 01:22:17.380
Do you get along with her the
best of anyone in your family?

1284
01:22:17.415 --> 01:22:18.450
Yep.

1285
01:22:19.451 --> 01:22:21.177
I love my sister.

1286
01:22:22.109 --> 01:22:25.630
She's the only family
I got, really.

1287
01:22:25.664 --> 01:22:30.600
Everyone else is gonna die
a gruesome death for their evil.

1288
01:22:46.133 --> 01:22:48.032
How would you like to die?

1289
01:22:48.066 --> 01:22:51.104
Uh, maybe a lethal injection

1290
01:22:51.138 --> 01:22:53.830
or have me a...

1291
01:22:55.625 --> 01:22:57.006
hmm...

1292
01:22:58.835 --> 01:23:02.115
parachute without a parachute
that doesn't work.

1293
01:23:05.394 --> 01:23:06.705
Yeah.

1294
01:23:08.776 --> 01:23:12.332
The expression on their face
when they go.

1295
01:23:15.093 --> 01:23:17.785
Because they think they had
everything going together,

1296
01:23:17.820 --> 01:23:20.478
and then when it's time
for them to die,

1297
01:23:20.512 --> 01:23:22.859
get a good look at them! Argh!

1298
01:23:26.346 --> 01:23:28.589
He talks a lot
about death and dying.

1299
01:23:28.624 --> 01:23:29.935
How seriously do you take that?

1300
01:23:29.970 --> 01:23:32.869
Well, you know, he first
started coming up with that

1301
01:23:32.904 --> 01:23:35.251
about ten years ago.
He'd start saying stuff like,

1302
01:23:35.286 --> 01:23:38.013
"I have seen death
and I want to die."

1303
01:23:39.083 --> 01:23:40.463
When he gets really drunk,

1304
01:23:40.498 --> 01:23:43.018
he'll go off
onto this death trip he's got.

1305
01:23:43.052 --> 01:23:44.985
I guess when he first
started coming up with it,

1306
01:23:45.020 --> 01:23:46.435
I got pretty
concerned about it.

1307
01:23:46.469 --> 01:23:50.887
I thought it was
maybe indicative

1308
01:23:50.922 --> 01:23:53.131
of what was soon to follow.

1309
01:23:53.166 --> 01:23:56.134
And I'm certainly still worried
about him expiring early.

1310
01:23:56.169 --> 01:23:58.964
I mean, the guy's been a serious
alcoholic for 10 or 15 years.

1311
01:23:58.999 --> 01:24:00.104
Certainly, you know,

1312
01:24:00.138 --> 01:24:01.864
I don't know how much time
he has got left,

1313
01:24:01.898 --> 01:24:07.456
but, again, I just sort of
close my mind to it.

1314
01:24:07.490 --> 01:24:11.563
I figure my only alternative
is to not associate with him.

1315
01:24:11.598 --> 01:24:13.289
I don't want to do that,
I mean...

1316
01:24:13.324 --> 01:24:15.740
I enjoy being around the guy
when he is more or less sober.

1317
01:24:15.774 --> 01:24:18.122
I like working with him,
playing with him.

1318
01:24:18.156 --> 01:24:19.778
He is a friend of mine,

1319
01:24:19.813 --> 01:24:22.091
and I think I just have
to accept him for what he is,

1320
01:24:22.126 --> 01:24:27.027
and if part of what he is,
is to die early, then so be it,

1321
01:24:27.062 --> 01:24:29.616
although I don't think anybody
wants to see that.

1322
01:24:56.194 --> 01:24:57.989
Mm... yeah.

1323
01:25:20.460 --> 01:25:22.979
He is fascinated
with people dying

1324
01:25:23.014 --> 01:25:24.671
and killing and getting hurt
and all that,

1325
01:25:24.705 --> 01:25:26.880
but he seems to be
a peaceful guy.

1326
01:25:26.914 --> 01:25:29.262
Yeah, he's harmless.

1327
01:25:29.296 --> 01:25:31.056
That's the ironic thing
about it,

1328
01:25:31.091 --> 01:25:32.748
he's totally harmless.

1329
01:25:33.611 --> 01:25:35.337
Didn't seem like
he'd hurt anybody.

1330
01:25:35.371 --> 01:25:38.754
He wouldn't.
He is absolutely nonviolent.

1331
01:25:38.788 --> 01:25:40.480
Do you mind
taking your mask off?

1332
01:25:48.902 --> 01:25:50.145
OK, put it back on.

1333
01:25:59.188 --> 01:26:02.157
I am an ugly motherfucker.

1334
01:26:02.191 --> 01:26:03.882
I admit it.

1335
01:26:05.643 --> 01:26:07.679
I don't care anymore.

1336
01:26:07.714 --> 01:26:11.821
Do you find his problem
with alcohol to be inhibiting?

1337
01:26:11.856 --> 01:26:13.927
No, see that's his own thing.

1338
01:26:13.961 --> 01:26:16.447
He's always talking
about dying early and stuff,

1339
01:26:16.481 --> 01:26:19.035
and that freaks some people out,

1340
01:26:19.070 --> 01:26:23.937
but I figure we all got to go
at our own pace,

1341
01:26:23.971 --> 01:26:26.457
and maybe the alcohol
is preserving him.

1342
01:26:29.563 --> 01:26:31.013
- What, uh...
- It doesn't bother me.

1343
01:26:31.047 --> 01:26:32.877
I don't give a fuck
what he does.

1344
01:26:40.160 --> 01:26:41.713
'...the value of your home.

1345
01:26:41.748 --> 01:26:44.647
'It's even tax-deductible,
so consult your CPA.

1346
01:26:44.682 --> 01:26:48.099
'That's 1-800-227-2888.

1347
01:26:48.133 --> 01:26:49.652
'Preferred financial funding.'

1348
01:26:57.315 --> 01:27:00.905
Just because El Duce
is bald and ugly...

1349
01:27:02.872 --> 01:27:06.600
...uses cheap cardboard drums,

1350
01:27:06.635 --> 01:27:09.500
doesn't mean you have the right

1351
01:27:09.534 --> 01:27:11.502
to sneak in there

1352
01:27:11.536 --> 01:27:14.090
and stick your little
peekaboo camera up there.

1353
01:27:20.890 --> 01:27:23.099
I like to have people
afraid of me.

1354
01:27:24.377 --> 01:27:27.380
- Uh, El...
- Don't do that.

1355
01:27:30.659 --> 01:27:32.039
No.

1356
01:27:36.389 --> 01:27:37.735
El!

1357
01:27:40.324 --> 01:27:41.670
Oh, God.

1358
01:27:50.368 --> 01:27:52.681
Whatever it takes
for entertainment.

1359
01:28:45.561 --> 01:28:47.425
Yes! Huh-huh!

1360
01:28:47.460 --> 01:28:48.461
Uh-huh! Huh!

1361
01:28:48.495 --> 01:28:50.463
This kicks butt!

1362
01:28:50.497 --> 01:28:51.774
Huh-huh! Huh-huh!

1363
01:28:52.465 --> 01:28:54.052
Nirvana is cool.

1364
01:28:54.087 --> 01:28:56.469
- Huh-huh! Huh-huh!
- Yeah! Huh-huh...

1365
01:29:08.998 --> 01:29:12.001
See, I went through all
of our videos over here.

1366
01:29:12.036 --> 01:29:13.313
Check it out.

1367
01:29:13.348 --> 01:29:14.694
I have been archiving videos

1368
01:29:14.728 --> 01:29:17.006
since I bought a video camera
last year,

1369
01:29:17.041 --> 01:29:19.008
and I got
all the good shit in here

1370
01:29:19.043 --> 01:29:22.322
that's going to kick ass
royally on this garbage.

1371
01:29:22.357 --> 01:29:26.222
So sit back and enjoy
the El Duce,

1372
01:29:26.257 --> 01:29:28.363
the man, the myth, the video...

1373
01:29:29.743 --> 01:29:33.022
and make sure you show it
to all your friends.

1374
01:29:40.202 --> 01:29:42.411
No, No, don't do...
El, El, El...

1375
01:29:42.446 --> 01:29:44.448
Don't do this right out
in the open like that.

1376
01:29:47.451 --> 01:29:51.247
Look at the queer-looking dudes
that call themselves rock.

1377
01:29:51.282 --> 01:29:54.492
I say fucking Poison,
suck some cock.

1378
01:29:56.736 --> 01:29:59.463
Let me bless my beer.

1379
01:29:59.497 --> 01:30:01.982
This is how you drink your beer
when you're a real man.

1380
01:30:08.955 --> 01:30:10.715
The beer gods.

1381
01:30:10.750 --> 01:30:15.444
I am the king that knows
how to drink beer, watch me.

1382
01:31:43.152 --> 01:31:44.740
Let's do it, dude!

1383
01:31:44.775 --> 01:31:47.502
OK, how about some Duce
nude in the jacuzzi?

1384
01:31:47.536 --> 01:31:48.882
Yeah!

1385
01:31:48.917 --> 01:31:50.332
Get out of here.

1386
01:31:50.366 --> 01:31:52.645
Come on, let's go.
Come on.

1387
01:32:46.388 --> 01:32:48.735
There is no doubt,
Courtney knowing him well,

1388
01:32:48.770 --> 01:32:51.496
would know, hey, if I wanted to
hire somebody to kill somebody,

1389
01:32:51.531 --> 01:32:52.912
El Duce would be the man.

1390
01:32:52.946 --> 01:32:54.569
He would love to do it
like that.

1391
01:32:54.603 --> 01:32:57.882
Is that... looks like him
right there actually.

1392
01:32:57.917 --> 01:32:59.746
That is... That's the one.

1393
01:32:59.781 --> 01:33:02.059
There he is, El Duce.

1394
01:33:04.337 --> 01:33:06.650
There he is right there.
So, he's, uh...

1395
01:33:06.684 --> 01:33:08.755
- Hey, I got some...

1396
01:33:08.790 --> 01:33:11.240
You did some deal
with Courtney, right?

1397
01:33:11.275 --> 01:33:12.448
Yeah.

1398
01:33:12.483 --> 01:33:15.072
She offered me 50 grand
to whack Kurt Cobain.

1399
01:33:15.106 --> 01:33:17.453
But did she tell you how she
wanted you to kill Kurt Cobain?

1400
01:33:17.488 --> 01:33:19.559
Yeah, she said
blow his fucking head off.

1401
01:33:19.594 --> 01:33:21.319
I got the shot gun.

1402
01:33:21.354 --> 01:33:23.908
- But she didn't say anything...
- Make it look like a suicide.

1403
01:33:23.943 --> 01:33:26.911
Well, yeah, but if he blew out
his brains like you said...

1404
01:33:59.530 --> 01:34:01.981
'Hello, you've reached
The Mentors hotline.

1405
01:34:02.015 --> 01:34:05.225
'If you are calling regarding
the rumors about El Duce,

1406
01:34:05.260 --> 01:34:07.538
'we're sorry to report
that they are indeed true.

1407
01:34:07.572 --> 01:34:09.057
'El Duce is deceased,

1408
01:34:09.091 --> 01:34:12.888
'and he was hit by a train
two Saturday nights ago.

1409
01:34:14.027 --> 01:34:15.822
'Thank you very much
for your condolences.

1410
01:34:15.857 --> 01:34:18.342
'They're are greatly
appreciated.'

1411
01:34:18.894 --> 01:34:20.171
[Beep]

1412
01:34:34.427 --> 01:34:36.429
You know how they found El Duce?

1413
01:34:37.499 --> 01:34:39.915
- Dead?
- Found him dead with no head.

1414
01:34:39.950 --> 01:34:41.848
Found him on train tracks

1415
01:34:41.883 --> 01:34:44.644
with his head on one side
and his body on the other.

1416
01:34:45.541 --> 01:34:48.717
The passing
of an American genius.

1417
01:34:52.341 --> 01:34:54.447
El Duce had to leave,

1418
01:34:54.481 --> 01:34:57.899
he had to catch a train
with his face.

1419
01:35:07.598 --> 01:35:09.289
Having maybe reached

1420
01:35:09.324 --> 01:35:12.845
the apex of commercial viability
with The Mentors,

1421
01:35:12.879 --> 01:35:15.848
why not now just play
a type of music

1422
01:35:15.882 --> 01:35:18.229
that you have always
wanted to play?

1423
01:35:18.264 --> 01:35:20.818
Well, I think we do,
we do play what we want to play.

1424
01:35:20.853 --> 01:35:23.545
Right now,
it's what we want to play.

1425
01:35:23.579 --> 01:35:25.202
You don't feel the need
to go off and, uh...

1426
01:35:25.236 --> 01:35:27.135
I mean, El Duce
doesn't feel the need

1427
01:35:27.169 --> 01:35:30.448
to find his fusion roots again?

1428
01:35:31.553 --> 01:35:33.072
- Uh, no.
- I'm just getting back to...

1429
01:35:33.106 --> 01:35:34.073
Yeah, I know what you're saying.

1430
01:35:34.107 --> 01:35:36.040
I know exactly
what you're saying.

1431
01:35:36.075 --> 01:35:37.973
When we started out,
it was contrived

1432
01:35:38.008 --> 01:35:40.631
to the extent
I've already described.

1433
01:35:40.665 --> 01:35:43.047
But that... we're way
past that point now.

1434
01:35:43.082 --> 01:35:44.773
It's no longer
a contrived thing,

1435
01:35:44.808 --> 01:35:50.468
it's a real legitimate
artistic thing that we do,

1436
01:35:50.503 --> 01:35:54.334
and there's very little pretense
behind it of that nature.

1437
01:35:54.369 --> 01:35:56.647
So I think we are doing
what we want to do.

1438
01:36:01.307 --> 01:36:03.516
I mean, I guess...

1439
01:36:03.550 --> 01:36:07.347
I think El would've
wound up the same way

1440
01:36:07.382 --> 01:36:10.005
whether or not he was ever
in The Mentors.

1441
01:36:10.040 --> 01:36:13.768
And so I guess
I'm glad that, um...

1442
01:36:15.873 --> 01:36:17.012
he was in The Mentors

1443
01:36:17.047 --> 01:36:20.084
so he will be remembered
for something.

1444
01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:21.603
El Duce, this is for you.

1445
01:36:21.637 --> 01:36:24.261
I hope you roll
in your fucking grave.

1446
01:36:39.586 --> 01:36:41.519
"Bend up
and smell my anal vapor.

1447
01:36:41.554 --> 01:36:44.108
"Your face is my toilet paper.

1448
01:36:44.143 --> 01:36:46.007
"On your face
I leave a shit tower.

1449
01:36:46.041 --> 01:36:47.698
"Golden showers.

1450
01:36:47.732 --> 01:36:49.873
- "Golden showers."

1451
01:36:49.907 --> 01:36:51.357
I'm sorry,
your time has expired.

1452
01:36:51.391 --> 01:36:52.668
Duce!

1453
01:36:52.703 --> 01:36:55.430
when you took a mic stand
and you shoved it in your ass,

1454
01:36:55.464 --> 01:36:57.639
and you hit me with it,

1455
01:36:57.673 --> 01:37:00.435
I felt like I graduated
from high school.

1456
01:37:00.469 --> 01:37:02.333
- Well, congratulations.
- Thanks.

1457
01:37:02.368 --> 01:37:06.648
This kind of thing might have
a big enough of an impact.

1458
01:37:06.682 --> 01:37:09.409
It said what it needed to say
in such a concise

1459
01:37:09.444 --> 01:37:11.308
yet humorous and pungent fashion

1460
01:37:11.342 --> 01:37:14.311
that I could see it
making a lasting impact.

1461
01:37:35.919 --> 01:37:38.576
You've spoken out against
all these... people.

1462
01:37:38.611 --> 01:37:40.855
Like, you say
you don't hire gay people.

1463
01:37:40.889 --> 01:37:42.063
No, no, no.

1464
01:37:42.097 --> 01:37:43.719
They're not as bad as women,
but no, I don't hire gays.

1465
01:37:43.754 --> 01:37:46.515
- But you know that's not...
- No, they're really...

1466
01:37:46.550 --> 01:37:48.448
- But you know that's just...
- Just kidding.

1467
01:37:48.483 --> 01:37:49.933
You're easy.

1468
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:55.973
What if you control
the entire world?

1469
01:37:56.008 --> 01:37:59.252
Somebody who could rise
to political power,

1470
01:37:59.287 --> 01:38:01.910
through nothing more
than pushing people's buttons

1471
01:38:01.945 --> 01:38:03.601
and getting them all riled up.

1472
01:38:08.158 --> 01:38:09.918
There is a bunch
of famous musicians

1473
01:38:09.953 --> 01:38:11.782
who were trying
to close down Gitmo,

1474
01:38:11.816 --> 01:38:13.577
and they are enraged,

1475
01:38:13.611 --> 01:38:15.993
thinking that perhaps
their music was being used

1476
01:38:16.028 --> 01:38:17.892
as torture against
these inmates.

1477
01:38:17.926 --> 01:38:20.308
How do you feel about that?

1478
01:38:20.342 --> 01:38:23.552
Well, I mean, rock'n'roll has
been an instrument of torture

1479
01:38:23.587 --> 01:38:25.347
for as long as I can remember.

1480
01:38:25.382 --> 01:38:27.556
to rape men

1481
01:38:33.735 --> 01:38:37.808
And there are like one, two,
three, four, five, six, seven Fs

1482
01:38:37.842 --> 01:38:39.120
in front of the 4th of July.

1483
01:38:39.154 --> 01:38:41.225
What does that signify
if anything?

1484
01:38:46.127 --> 01:38:47.438
Last night,

1485
01:38:47.473 --> 01:38:51.891
the number one trending topic
on Twitter was Obama Farewell.

1486
01:38:51.926 --> 01:38:54.790
And the second trending topic,
no kidding,

1487
01:38:54.825 --> 01:38:57.379
was "Golden Showers".

1488
01:38:59.968 --> 01:39:04.524
I think he's very proud of
what he has done with his life.

1489
01:39:04.559 --> 01:39:07.907
I think he's very cognizant
of the fact

1490
01:39:07.942 --> 01:39:09.391
that he is creating art,

1491
01:39:09.426 --> 01:39:11.738
and does consider himself
an artist.

1492
01:39:12.877 --> 01:39:14.914
I mean, he shocked
and grossed people out,

1493
01:39:14.949 --> 01:39:16.088
that's what he wanted to do.

1494
01:39:16.122 --> 01:39:18.745
And he was the best at it,
but it killed him inside.

1495
01:39:19.954 --> 01:39:21.438
I mean who wants to go around

1496
01:39:21.472 --> 01:39:25.373
being the biggest, fattest,
grossest, most disgusting thing?

1497
01:39:36.211 --> 01:39:37.557
Yep.

1498
01:39:42.252 --> 01:39:43.908
It's art.

1499
01:44:06.412 --> 01:44:08.690
See you in hell!

1500
01:44:13.316 --> 01:44:16.284
No, better yet,
I'm in heaven. Beugh!

1501
01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:17.734
Fooled ya!