1 00:00:42,083 --> 00:00:44,083 ♪ intermittent percussive beats ♪ 2 00:01:35,208 --> 00:01:37,375 ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪ 3 00:01:48,458 --> 00:01:51,083 I don't know. I just like coming-of-age stories. 4 00:01:51,083 --> 00:01:53,333 There's something about them. 5 00:01:56,959 --> 00:01:58,709 Not... 6 00:01:59,792 --> 00:02:01,291 ...hero versus villain. 7 00:02:12,834 --> 00:02:15,625 Maybe it's the trans part of me that feels like 8 00:02:15,625 --> 00:02:17,875 life is a coming-of-age story. 9 00:02:25,208 --> 00:02:27,500 I'm not the person that people think I am. 10 00:02:28,667 --> 00:02:30,041 I just know that. 11 00:03:35,917 --> 00:03:38,250 Hold on. I've got to take this call. 12 00:03:38,250 --> 00:03:40,583 I've got to take this call. 13 00:03:40,583 --> 00:03:42,250 Hello. 14 00:03:46,583 --> 00:03:48,250 Hello? 15 00:03:52,083 --> 00:03:53,917 Hello? 16 00:03:58,250 --> 00:04:00,083 Yes, it is. 17 00:04:02,417 --> 00:04:03,917 I do. 18 00:04:08,917 --> 00:04:11,041 Oh, my God. 19 00:04:12,041 --> 00:04:14,792 - Oh, my God! 20 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:17,625 What did he commute it to? 21 00:04:20,125 --> 00:04:21,875 Oh. 22 00:04:23,625 --> 00:04:25,959 Oh, I can't tell you... 23 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:28,125 I can't tell you how happy I am. 24 00:04:28,125 --> 00:04:30,542 Thank you so much. How do I... 25 00:04:30,542 --> 00:04:33,125 He's gonna announce it in a couple of minutes? 26 00:04:33,125 --> 00:04:35,291 And how do we tell her? 27 00:04:39,875 --> 00:04:41,625 Vince! 28 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:46,917 I'm sorry to interrupt you. 29 00:04:46,917 --> 00:04:50,125 I just got a call from the President's counsel. 30 00:04:50,125 --> 00:04:52,709 It's commuted plus 120 days. 31 00:04:52,709 --> 00:04:54,834 - Are you serious? - Yeah, the... 32 00:04:54,834 --> 00:04:56,291 Let's do it out here. 33 00:04:56,291 --> 00:04:58,166 The President's counsel just called me. 34 00:04:58,166 --> 00:05:00,208 He's gonna announce it in a couple of minutes. 35 00:05:00,208 --> 00:05:01,959 I'm pretty speechless. 36 00:05:01,959 --> 00:05:03,542 I'm gonna start crying. 37 00:05:03,542 --> 00:05:05,083 Holy shit! 38 00:05:08,458 --> 00:05:10,792 Fucking shit. 39 00:05:16,917 --> 00:05:18,041 It's just... 40 00:05:18,041 --> 00:05:19,834 I just... I just... 41 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:22,542 I can't even fucking... 42 00:05:24,125 --> 00:05:25,959 It's crazy. 43 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,166 Jesus fucking Christ. 44 00:05:31,625 --> 00:05:35,583 First of all...let's be clear, 45 00:05:35,583 --> 00:05:39,458 Chelsea Manning has served 46 00:05:39,458 --> 00:05:42,125 a tough prison sentence. 47 00:05:43,834 --> 00:05:46,792 The sentence that she received was disproportionate 48 00:05:46,792 --> 00:05:51,291 relative to what other leakers had received. 49 00:05:52,583 --> 00:05:56,792 She took responsibility for her crime. 50 00:05:59,417 --> 00:06:03,792 It made sense to commute, and not pardon, her sentence. 51 00:06:05,417 --> 00:06:07,291 - Nancy just got the order... - I just got it. 52 00:06:07,291 --> 00:06:09,208 ...with the Barack Obama signature. 53 00:06:09,208 --> 00:06:12,041 - Oh, my God! - So that is in possession. 54 00:06:12,041 --> 00:06:13,875 Oh, God. 55 00:06:32,166 --> 00:06:34,542 - This is a lot to process. - Yeah, it is. 56 00:06:34,542 --> 00:06:36,417 - These types of huge changes. - Yeah, yeah. 57 00:06:36,417 --> 00:06:37,583 So... 58 00:06:41,083 --> 00:06:43,500 You know, we're here, Chelsea. We're thrilled for you. 59 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:46,000 But it doesn't mean it's all just simple. 60 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,625 - An inmate 61 00:07:02,625 --> 00:07:05,208 at a military correctional complex... 62 00:07:05,208 --> 00:07:07,792 - ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. 63 00:07:07,792 --> 00:07:10,083 This call is from a correction facility 64 00:07:10,083 --> 00:07:12,917 and is subject to monitoring and recording. 65 00:07:12,917 --> 00:07:14,959 This is a prepaid call from... 66 00:07:14,959 --> 00:07:17,083 - Manning. 67 00:07:19,583 --> 00:07:23,709 Hey. So, you're on today's New York Times. 68 00:07:25,375 --> 00:07:28,166 And your story is upper right-hand corner, baby. 69 00:07:29,041 --> 00:07:31,083 Yay! 70 00:07:31,083 --> 00:07:33,500 He had to be a human being for this to work. 71 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:36,041 We didn't know if he was or not, right? 72 00:07:36,041 --> 00:07:37,458 I didn't know. 73 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:44,333 Yeah? 74 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:49,417 I got the Elle magazine. 75 00:07:49,417 --> 00:07:51,333 Hold on. I'm running off to get it. 76 00:07:52,542 --> 00:07:54,834 Where did that thing go? Oh, here it is. 77 00:07:54,834 --> 00:07:58,041 I got the Elle. They didn't have Marie Claire. 78 00:07:58,041 --> 00:08:00,000 But it's gonna come in tomorrow. 79 00:08:12,417 --> 00:08:14,458 Yes. And bow... 80 00:08:14,458 --> 00:08:17,083 And a bow. Bows on the shoulders. 81 00:08:22,125 --> 00:08:23,208 Yes? 82 00:08:24,083 --> 00:08:25,625 Six women. 83 00:08:28,542 --> 00:08:31,417 - Far left. A little suit. - Yeah. 84 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:37,542 Yeah. That's cute. 85 00:08:37,542 --> 00:08:39,959 - Vincent? - Yes, ma'am. 86 00:08:39,959 --> 00:08:43,041 Commander, sir. I'm gonna be there to make sure she's safe. 87 00:08:43,041 --> 00:08:45,375 - That's great. - You know, we did her clemency. 88 00:08:45,375 --> 00:08:46,709 We're her clemency lawyers. 89 00:08:46,709 --> 00:08:49,041 We're gonna make sure this clemency happens. 90 00:08:49,041 --> 00:08:50,375 She's really worried 91 00:08:50,375 --> 00:08:52,250 that she's gonna do something stupid. 92 00:08:52,250 --> 00:08:54,041 What does that mean? 93 00:08:54,041 --> 00:08:55,625 Well, what she kept saying was, 94 00:08:55,625 --> 00:08:58,542 "I might run away. You guys should be aware of that." 95 00:08:58,542 --> 00:09:00,291 And I said, "You're not... 96 00:09:00,291 --> 00:09:03,083 Once you're with us, you won't be able to run away." 97 00:09:03,083 --> 00:09:05,333 I don't think people realize how traumatic 98 00:09:05,333 --> 00:09:06,667 getting out of jail is. 99 00:09:06,667 --> 00:09:08,583 Imagine going from being in the military 100 00:09:08,583 --> 00:09:10,500 - to being incarcerated. - I know. 101 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:13,417 Because people who are in the military and get out 102 00:09:13,417 --> 00:09:15,709 - have difficulty transitioning. - That's right. 103 00:09:15,709 --> 00:09:18,083 She needs to go figure out her life. 104 00:09:22,458 --> 00:09:24,417 Having been in the military, 105 00:09:24,417 --> 00:09:27,709 I can't imagine making a decision like that. 106 00:09:27,709 --> 00:09:30,417 I just can't. No chance I would've done that. 107 00:09:35,166 --> 00:09:37,500 It takes a rare historical person 108 00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:41,250 who is willing to sacrifice personal freedom 109 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:43,500 and all the privileges of life, 110 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:46,875 doing what he or she thinks is the right thing to do. 111 00:09:49,625 --> 00:09:53,333 You have to have a little bit of a sense of self-importance 112 00:09:53,333 --> 00:09:55,041 about yourself... 113 00:09:56,250 --> 00:09:58,125 ...a bit of ignorance... 114 00:09:59,458 --> 00:10:01,792 ...a little bit of a sense of optimism. 115 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,125 Mostly, they're just people who, deep down, 116 00:10:09,125 --> 00:10:11,375 feel as though there's some problem 117 00:10:11,375 --> 00:10:13,625 or something's really wrong. 118 00:10:45,166 --> 00:10:47,166 Yeah. 119 00:11:00,875 --> 00:11:03,625 I'm particularly bitter that a Commander in Chief, 120 00:11:03,625 --> 00:11:06,125 in a time of war, would pardon a traitor. 121 00:11:06,125 --> 00:11:08,208 Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan 122 00:11:08,208 --> 00:11:09,500 released a statement saying, 123 00:11:09,500 --> 00:11:12,667 "Chelsea Manning's treachery put American lives at risk." 124 00:11:12,667 --> 00:11:15,375 This young man or woman, or whatever, 125 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:17,709 should have been hung. 126 00:11:17,709 --> 00:11:19,208 I don't think it's right. 127 00:11:19,208 --> 00:11:22,208 She should serve her time. 35 years. 128 00:11:23,041 --> 00:11:24,291 100 years ago, 129 00:11:24,291 --> 00:11:26,542 they'd have just taken him out and shot him. 130 00:11:27,917 --> 00:11:31,667 The debate about how much harm was caused, 131 00:11:31,667 --> 00:11:34,291 or wasn't, by her actions, is ongoing. 132 00:11:34,291 --> 00:11:36,458 National security officials will tell you 133 00:11:36,458 --> 00:11:39,041 Manning gravely harmed national security. 134 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:41,208 So far as actually killing someone, 135 00:11:41,208 --> 00:11:43,875 there's absolutely no credible allegation of that happening. 136 00:11:43,875 --> 00:11:45,959 And another factor, as you alluded to, 137 00:11:45,959 --> 00:11:49,208 seems to be the stress for Manning's gender transition. 138 00:11:49,208 --> 00:11:50,375 Chelsea Manning 139 00:11:50,375 --> 00:11:52,542 attempted to commit suicide twice last year. 140 00:11:52,542 --> 00:11:55,083 Is it clear that the gender transition concern 141 00:11:55,083 --> 00:11:57,583 was part of this, that she'd been going through...? 142 00:11:57,583 --> 00:11:59,583 It seems to be. 143 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:11,959 ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪ 144 00:12:43,667 --> 00:12:45,834 ♪ brooding piano music ♪ 145 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:14,500 ♪ tone of music brightening ♪ 146 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:38,625 - Another day. - Hey. 147 00:13:38,625 --> 00:13:40,500 Another day in the woods. 148 00:14:10,083 --> 00:14:12,583 God, it's such a beautiful sight. 149 00:14:23,291 --> 00:14:25,834 I wasn't handling it very well initially. 150 00:14:25,834 --> 00:14:27,709 - You... - Aargh. 151 00:14:27,709 --> 00:14:30,542 We were in an actually incredibly stressful situation 152 00:14:30,542 --> 00:14:32,542 where I thought I was gonna vomit. 153 00:14:32,542 --> 00:14:35,750 - Um, so... - You wanted to vomit, too? 154 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:37,875 Yeah. I really did. I was, like, "Oh, 155 00:14:37,875 --> 00:14:39,792 I'm gonna be super embarrassed 156 00:14:39,792 --> 00:14:43,959 if I throw up in front of these security guys." 157 00:14:43,959 --> 00:14:45,750 - We're still trying to adjust. - Yeah. 158 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:47,834 To find a soft landing. So, I think, today, 159 00:14:47,834 --> 00:14:50,875 just kind of... vegging out a little bit 160 00:14:50,875 --> 00:14:53,417 and, like, you know, like, learning. 161 00:14:54,917 --> 00:14:56,583 Learning how to... 162 00:14:56,583 --> 00:14:59,083 I mean, for me, learning how to... 163 00:14:59,083 --> 00:15:00,625 Yeah. 164 00:15:00,625 --> 00:15:02,875 ...be again. 165 00:15:02,875 --> 00:15:05,709 Yeah, fuck, I mean, you're, like... 166 00:15:05,709 --> 00:15:07,667 - Fuck. 167 00:15:07,667 --> 00:15:09,917 - It's still sort of amazing. - Yeah. 168 00:15:09,917 --> 00:15:12,125 And unimaginable, like, this is... 169 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,834 ...this is where you are 170 00:15:14,834 --> 00:15:17,250 on May 17, 2017. 171 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:20,250 - Yeah. - And not 2045. 172 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:22,834 - How the fuck did I get here? - Yeah. 173 00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:25,125 You ever find yourself asking yourself that? 174 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:27,500 - Yeah. Yeah, I do. - "How did I get here?" 175 00:15:28,458 --> 00:15:30,333 Yeah. 176 00:15:30,333 --> 00:15:33,583 It just feels so natural for me to do whatever I want... 177 00:15:33,583 --> 00:15:35,667 - Yeah. Yeah. - ...in nature. 178 00:15:36,959 --> 00:15:38,709 You get past this idea 179 00:15:38,709 --> 00:15:40,959 of, like, "Oh, a miracle might happen." 180 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:45,458 I mean, I was in prison for the rest of my life. 181 00:15:47,583 --> 00:15:49,959 There was a lot of people that... 182 00:15:49,959 --> 00:15:52,417 didn't think it was worth the effort, 183 00:15:52,417 --> 00:15:55,875 didn't think Obama would consider it, 184 00:15:55,875 --> 00:15:58,125 it was never gonna happen. 185 00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:01,917 It was a shot in the dark. 186 00:16:17,625 --> 00:16:20,041 I am not a make-up artist, by any means. 187 00:16:21,834 --> 00:16:24,583 I had to learn in prison, 188 00:16:24,583 --> 00:16:27,166 making shit up as I went along. 189 00:16:27,166 --> 00:16:30,083 I'm sure there's a bazillion tutorials on YouTube. 190 00:16:32,667 --> 00:16:34,250 There's a disproportionate number 191 00:16:34,250 --> 00:16:36,083 of trans women in the military. 192 00:16:36,917 --> 00:16:38,417 You know? Like something... 193 00:16:38,417 --> 00:16:41,125 Something about, like, our twenties, 194 00:16:41,125 --> 00:16:44,417 and I was, like, running away from, you know... 195 00:16:46,834 --> 00:16:49,500 ...this... this weird problem 196 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:51,875 that, like, we're cross-dressing and stuff. 197 00:16:51,875 --> 00:16:54,458 Like, I was trying to, like, man up and... 198 00:16:54,458 --> 00:16:56,834 I... I think I'm not alone in that. 199 00:16:56,834 --> 00:16:58,709 There's a lot of social pressure, 200 00:16:58,709 --> 00:17:02,000 especially for people in, like, the South 201 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,083 and people in the Southwest, and the West. 202 00:17:05,834 --> 00:17:07,583 Um... 203 00:17:07,583 --> 00:17:11,000 Yeah, I think there's a pressure to...conform, 204 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,667 and what better conformity environment 205 00:17:13,667 --> 00:17:14,917 than the military? 206 00:17:14,917 --> 00:17:16,542 So... 207 00:17:19,583 --> 00:17:23,875 I saw it as kind of like going cold turkey from, like... 208 00:17:23,875 --> 00:17:25,333 a drug addiction or something, 209 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:27,750 or, like, trying to quit cigarettes or something. 210 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:30,250 But, obviously, you can't stop being who you are. 211 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:33,917 So, that was always... never gonna happen. 212 00:17:35,875 --> 00:17:38,250 And this is a fantastic shade of lipstick. 213 00:17:57,959 --> 00:18:00,750 I could hear the river from... 214 00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:02,834 prison, on a non-windy day. 215 00:18:02,834 --> 00:18:05,125 Because there was the Missouri River... 216 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:08,125 ...right outside the uh... 217 00:18:08,125 --> 00:18:10,083 right outside the prison itself. 218 00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:11,333 Through the tree... 219 00:18:11,333 --> 00:18:13,250 If you go beyond the treeline of the prison, 220 00:18:13,250 --> 00:18:15,208 there's the river...um... 221 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:18,792 And...so, but... 222 00:18:18,792 --> 00:18:20,834 I haven't heard a stream like this. 223 00:18:20,834 --> 00:18:22,792 This is just... It's nice. 224 00:18:23,625 --> 00:18:25,834 It's nice to have a stream. 225 00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:28,792 It's nice to have leaves, you know? 226 00:18:33,625 --> 00:18:35,875 What story? 227 00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:38,458 Uh... That's a good question. 228 00:18:49,792 --> 00:18:51,709 ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪ 229 00:19:01,667 --> 00:19:05,166 I grew up in a small town: Crescent, Oklahoma. 230 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:09,917 I had a...complicated relationship with my father. 231 00:19:11,208 --> 00:19:12,750 You know, like, he would just... 232 00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:14,667 take his anger out, from being... 233 00:19:15,583 --> 00:19:18,041 ...angry at work, and just... 234 00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:26,750 My mother, she would drink pretty heavily. 235 00:19:28,166 --> 00:19:30,041 My father drank very heavily. 236 00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:35,375 And they finally split up when I was 13. 237 00:19:40,041 --> 00:19:42,542 My father had a new wife. 238 00:19:42,542 --> 00:19:45,291 She didn't like the fact that I even existed. 239 00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:51,375 She saw that, you know, I was dating boys and... 240 00:19:51,375 --> 00:19:54,125 ...eventually she had me removed from the house... 241 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,208 ...and I was homeless. 242 00:20:03,208 --> 00:20:06,375 All Americans know that the stakes in Iraq are enormous. 243 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:08,250 On television every night, 244 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:11,000 you'd see images of the Iraq surge. 245 00:20:11,875 --> 00:20:13,041 It was chaos. 246 00:20:13,041 --> 00:20:16,041 I am saying we must significantly increase... 247 00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:18,208 That realization that I was on thin ice 248 00:20:18,208 --> 00:20:20,166 and that I didn't know who I was, 249 00:20:20,166 --> 00:20:21,583 and that I needed meaning. 250 00:20:21,583 --> 00:20:25,333 I understand the consequence of committing people into war. 251 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:30,166 So, I enlisted in the Army. 252 00:20:35,083 --> 00:20:37,166 I did it kind of on a whim. 253 00:20:39,291 --> 00:20:42,583 They needed people, I signed the paperwork. 254 00:20:42,583 --> 00:20:45,166 And a few days later, I was in basic training. 255 00:20:57,291 --> 00:20:59,667 Oh, shit! 256 00:20:59,667 --> 00:21:01,542 Where the fuck did you come from? 257 00:21:05,125 --> 00:21:06,333 Shit. 258 00:21:22,792 --> 00:21:24,000 Yep. 259 00:21:26,834 --> 00:21:28,333 What's up? 260 00:21:36,875 --> 00:21:39,542 Lisa just says, "Great photo." 261 00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:44,000 You know, I'm just making sure... 262 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,750 Disconcerting amount of boobage there. 263 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:50,542 Like, my eye is drawn to it, so I'm just, like... 264 00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:53,250 ...super aware of the fact 265 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:55,542 that dresses expose a lot more skin 266 00:21:55,542 --> 00:21:57,417 and it's uh... 267 00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:03,166 I don't know if my body movements are trained yet 268 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,041 for this kind of thing. 269 00:22:06,041 --> 00:22:08,500 You're moving around a lot and you're not used to it. 270 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:11,166 There's always the possibility of, "Oop, there you go." 271 00:22:11,166 --> 00:22:12,583 The whole world could see. 272 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:16,542 And I had that in prison, too. 273 00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:19,375 You know, I was definitely scrutinized by... 274 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,792 prison staff, you know... 275 00:22:21,792 --> 00:22:25,208 inmates, visitors, you know? 276 00:22:25,208 --> 00:22:28,625 Because even though I wore a loose-fitting uniform, 277 00:22:28,625 --> 00:22:31,208 you could tell... you know, they could tell. 278 00:22:31,208 --> 00:22:33,667 And they... I could sense the judgment. 279 00:22:33,667 --> 00:22:36,041 Guards would walk in on me sometimes 280 00:22:36,041 --> 00:22:39,458 while I'm doing... You know, while I was changing my shirt 281 00:22:39,458 --> 00:22:43,375 or, like, taking my bra off or putting it on, or whatever. 282 00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:46,375 So, you know, stuff happened and people would go... 283 00:22:46,375 --> 00:22:50,417 And then there are strip searches, so... 284 00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:53,542 Their reactions could sometimes be... 285 00:22:54,125 --> 00:22:56,041 ...you know... 286 00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:58,750 ...complicated. 287 00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:00,417 Human. 288 00:23:13,834 --> 00:23:17,417 I remember it was a really hot and muggy day. 289 00:23:21,792 --> 00:23:25,041 The lawyers advised against coming out 290 00:23:25,041 --> 00:23:26,875 in the middle of a court martial. 291 00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:29,542 They thought it would be misinterpreted 292 00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:32,250 as some kind of stunt or something. 293 00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:39,125 But I came to the conclusion that I needed to just 294 00:23:39,125 --> 00:23:40,792 come out publicly. 295 00:23:48,125 --> 00:23:51,041 As I transition into this next phase of my life, 296 00:23:51,041 --> 00:23:53,291 I want everyone to know the real me. 297 00:23:53,291 --> 00:23:55,375 I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. 298 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,583 I'm confused, Bill. 299 00:23:58,583 --> 00:24:00,875 I don't care if you call him a he or a she. 300 00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:03,458 He's a traitor. She's a traitor. 301 00:24:04,291 --> 00:24:06,709 You had these rumors. 302 00:24:06,709 --> 00:24:10,166 "What does it mean that Manning is really a woman 303 00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:11,709 or is claiming to be a woman?" 304 00:24:11,709 --> 00:24:14,959 "Did she leak the documents because she's transgender?" 305 00:25:14,709 --> 00:25:17,208 This is late January, 2010. 306 00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:21,208 I came back from Iraq, on leave. 307 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,417 And I came to an empty house. 308 00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,709 It was...surreal. 309 00:25:36,208 --> 00:25:39,792 I had this sense of disconnect. 310 00:25:41,375 --> 00:25:43,166 People were living normal lives 311 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,375 while we were killing or being killed. 312 00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:47,500 Thank you for calling the New York Times. 313 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,375 ..for calling the Washington Post. 314 00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:51,250 News outlets, they didn't care. 315 00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,959 - It wasn't newsworthy to them. 316 00:25:56,625 --> 00:25:58,333 The notion of the Iraq War 317 00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:00,000 has left the consciousness. 318 00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:07,583 I'm trying to do something different. 319 00:26:17,917 --> 00:26:21,083 I have all these documents and I have the data 320 00:26:21,083 --> 00:26:23,458 and I need to do something with it. 321 00:26:54,458 --> 00:26:56,291 We have no reason to doubt 322 00:26:56,291 --> 00:26:58,709 the reliability of these documents. 323 00:26:58,709 --> 00:27:02,041 It is up to a court to decide... 324 00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:05,792 ...clearly, whether something is, in the end, a crime. 325 00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:08,125 That said, prima facie, 326 00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:10,125 there does appear to be 327 00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:12,333 evidence of war crimes in this material. 328 00:27:25,583 --> 00:27:28,000 We also have one individual, 329 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,917 uh...appears to be wounded, trying to crawl away. 330 00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:41,667 Come on, buddy. 331 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000 All you gotta do is pick up a weapon. 332 00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:55,208 They're taking him! 333 00:27:56,291 --> 00:27:58,458 Bushmaster, Crazy Horse 1-8. 334 00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:01,208 Come on, let us shoot. 335 00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:03,333 This is Bushmaster 7. Go ahead. 336 00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:06,375 Roger, we have a black SUV, uh, Bongo truck 337 00:28:06,375 --> 00:28:07,750 picking up the bodies. 338 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:09,875 Request permission to engage. 339 00:28:11,417 --> 00:28:13,375 Bushmaster 7. Roger. 340 00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:15,709 This is Bushmaster 7. Roger. Engage. 341 00:28:15,709 --> 00:28:18,208 1-8. Okay. Clear. 342 00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:20,542 - Come on. 343 00:28:21,625 --> 00:28:23,959 - Clear. 344 00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:27,458 - Clear. - We're engaging. 345 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,417 - Come around. Clear. - Roger. 346 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,750 Hacker Adrian Lamo, who turned him in, 347 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,291 says that he contacted the Army 348 00:29:14,291 --> 00:29:17,625 after a series of very intense email exchanges 349 00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,959 with the Army specialist in late May. 350 00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:25,250 Adrian Lamo claims that Manning was unhappy 351 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:27,375 with some policies in the military. 352 00:29:27,375 --> 00:29:29,875 He said that there was an ideology problem, 353 00:29:29,875 --> 00:29:31,333 that he had leaked other information 354 00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:33,375 to the website WikiLeaks. 355 00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,291 Now, among the charges, of course, the most serious one 356 00:29:44,291 --> 00:29:47,667 for Private Bradley Manning, that of aiding the enemy. 357 00:29:47,667 --> 00:29:49,625 In a way, it's the sheer scale of it 358 00:29:49,625 --> 00:29:50,792 that's hurt America's image. 359 00:29:50,792 --> 00:29:53,792 That a vast volume of sensitive documents 360 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:56,625 was so easily available to a private soldier 361 00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:58,000 with some hacking skills. 362 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,500 The United States Of America is on trial today. 363 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:04,750 Let him go! 364 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:06,750 Manning stood up as an American soldier, 365 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:08,709 put himself in harm's way, 366 00:30:08,709 --> 00:30:10,750 and he should be free. 367 00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:36,709 No, ma'am. 368 00:31:49,125 --> 00:31:51,625 You've been invisible for so long... 369 00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:54,291 Yeah. - ...people have already... 370 00:31:54,291 --> 00:31:56,709 formed their own opinions of who you are. 371 00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:01,583 I feel pressure to correct that and to, like, 372 00:32:01,583 --> 00:32:03,458 clear that up. 373 00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:09,000 I was an unknown before. 374 00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:21,375 It's a little bit nerve-racking. 375 00:32:25,834 --> 00:32:27,959 I'm not... I'm not ashamed of anything. 376 00:32:27,959 --> 00:32:29,500 I'm not ashamed of being trans. 377 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,959 I'm not ashamed of what happened. 378 00:32:30,959 --> 00:32:33,709 Everything happened and, like... 379 00:32:33,709 --> 00:32:35,333 I'm okay with that. 380 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,333 Yeah? And... 381 00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,417 The main thing that I had to do was just let go... 382 00:32:44,417 --> 00:32:46,834 of other people's expectations. 383 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:50,333 And that was tough. 384 00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:53,000 It was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do 385 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,917 because I had built my life 386 00:32:54,917 --> 00:32:57,500 around other people's expectations. 387 00:32:58,792 --> 00:33:01,542 And I'm not gonna fucking do that any more. 388 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,583 It does feel a little bit like a calm before a storm. 389 00:33:15,667 --> 00:33:18,166 We know how fragile she is. 390 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,083 What I worry about is that she'll be a big name 391 00:33:25,083 --> 00:33:28,875 and there'll be all this press that'll happen, 392 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:31,542 and then all of a sudden, it'll be over 393 00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:35,291 and she'll just be out there on her own. 394 00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:39,667 We make these in the wood shop, 395 00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:41,792 but we don't paint ours. 396 00:33:41,792 --> 00:33:43,083 We put oil on ours. 397 00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:47,792 We made Adirondack chairs at the prison. 398 00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:52,458 Yeah. 399 00:33:54,583 --> 00:33:57,291 Oh, it'll be like that for a few weeks, I'm sure. 400 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,667 God, I missed trying to do this. 401 00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,583 - I feel old. 402 00:34:47,583 --> 00:34:49,792 - Feel old? - Yeah. 403 00:34:49,792 --> 00:34:52,125 I lost... 404 00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:54,375 I've lost seven years of my life already. 405 00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:56,375 That's unfair. 406 00:34:56,375 --> 00:34:59,625 Last time I walked down these streets, 407 00:34:59,625 --> 00:35:01,875 down the streets of this city, 408 00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,959 Lady Gaga had just become big 409 00:35:03,959 --> 00:35:06,500 and the Iraq War was still going on. 410 00:35:10,291 --> 00:35:13,542 It just feels like I've been through a time machine. 411 00:35:13,542 --> 00:35:14,875 Time warp. 412 00:35:23,458 --> 00:35:26,583 An inmate at a military correctional complex... 413 00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:29,000 - ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. 414 00:35:52,625 --> 00:35:54,333 Where do you think he got that idea? 415 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,291 All I was trying to get at 416 00:36:11,291 --> 00:36:14,625 was this whole idea of personal responsibility 417 00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:18,208 that you seem to feel, even though, of course, 418 00:36:18,208 --> 00:36:20,792 you...didn't have any... 419 00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:23,750 ...direct... Absolutely. 420 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:25,625 You didn't pull the trigger. 421 00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:51,583 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 422 00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:57,375 It's hard for me now, 423 00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:59,291 just because I know you and love you 424 00:37:59,291 --> 00:38:01,375 and I hate the idea of you being in prison. 425 00:38:01,375 --> 00:38:03,333 And so, for me, it's easy to wonder 426 00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:04,959 if it was worth it. 427 00:38:18,917 --> 00:38:22,417 It was just me and Lisa against the world. 428 00:38:23,792 --> 00:38:27,083 We actually hadn't met before I went to prison. 429 00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:30,625 But she wrote to me, you know, 430 00:38:30,625 --> 00:38:33,500 this really sweet, kind, thoughtful letter. 431 00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:40,834 It'll be the first time I've ever seen her in person. 432 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,667 You know, helping her get released, 433 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:56,166 it really was sort of like my life's work. 434 00:38:56,166 --> 00:38:57,667 It's really been... 435 00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:01,917 There was a point when we were just trying to keep her alive. 436 00:39:10,875 --> 00:39:12,709 Oh, shit. 437 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:22,041 Alright? 438 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,500 You look fantastic. 439 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,625 Thanks. 440 00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,875 - It's one thing that... - Your pictures... 441 00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:39,417 Your pictures do you justice but, I mean, like, 442 00:39:39,417 --> 00:39:40,834 in real life, wow. 443 00:39:43,291 --> 00:39:45,417 - Look at you. - Look at you. 444 00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:49,291 - How different do I look? 445 00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:52,166 If you do a side-by-side comparison, 446 00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:53,750 you can tell, right? 447 00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:57,208 I don't know if I would say that. 448 00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,417 Okay. 449 00:39:58,417 --> 00:40:00,458 You don't look anything like your old picture. 450 00:40:00,458 --> 00:40:01,917 - No. - Not even a little. 451 00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,000 And your cheekbones and stuff. 452 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,083 I mean, it's really... It's amazing to me. 453 00:40:07,083 --> 00:40:09,417 I didn't realize that... 454 00:40:09,417 --> 00:40:13,208 that hormones changed that much 455 00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:16,458 of, like...bone structure? 456 00:40:16,458 --> 00:40:19,542 No, it doesn't change the bone structure. 457 00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,125 Well, it changed... It changed something. 458 00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:24,291 It changes how the skin, like... 459 00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:27,917 how the skin wraps around the bones a little bit. 460 00:40:27,917 --> 00:40:30,166 Okay. It's just so much different. 461 00:40:30,917 --> 00:40:32,792 - It's really different. - Yeah. 462 00:40:32,792 --> 00:40:34,333 Yeah. 463 00:40:46,166 --> 00:40:48,125 Lisa was everything. 464 00:40:51,959 --> 00:40:53,500 She's family. 465 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,542 Chelsea? 466 00:41:16,542 --> 00:41:18,333 Hello? 467 00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:30,917 Um... 468 00:41:45,375 --> 00:41:47,542 Shit. 469 00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:54,291 Even I didn't realize how much you were hurting, Chelsea. 470 00:41:54,291 --> 00:41:56,291 Even I didn't know. 471 00:41:56,291 --> 00:41:58,750 You... You... You weren't really telling me. 472 00:41:59,709 --> 00:42:02,208 And... And... I want you to... 473 00:42:07,542 --> 00:42:09,709 Very good at...? 474 00:42:22,208 --> 00:42:25,250 You know, she watched the firework celebration 475 00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:27,583 from her window... 476 00:42:27,583 --> 00:42:30,083 and then she took the shoestrings 477 00:42:30,083 --> 00:42:32,625 that were, you know, on her boots, 478 00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:35,250 attached them to a vent hanging from the ceiling, 479 00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:39,625 put a pillowcase over her head... 480 00:42:39,625 --> 00:42:43,250 bound her hands and her legs, 481 00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:46,417 and then the next thing that she remembers, actually, 482 00:42:46,417 --> 00:42:48,667 is being on the floor. 483 00:42:52,792 --> 00:42:55,000 She was unconscious... 484 00:42:56,125 --> 00:42:58,500 ...and it could have very well worked. 485 00:43:07,542 --> 00:43:10,500 I wouldn't say that I've ever seen Chelsea... 486 00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:13,125 ...be happy. 487 00:43:13,125 --> 00:43:16,583 I've seen her smile, I've seen her laugh. 488 00:43:16,583 --> 00:43:19,917 I've seen her crack jokes. 489 00:43:19,917 --> 00:43:22,291 But, honestly, I don't know that I've ever seen her 490 00:43:22,291 --> 00:43:24,792 be happy. 491 00:43:24,792 --> 00:43:26,667 ♪ contemplative music ♪ 492 00:44:55,458 --> 00:44:57,750 When I was a teenager... 493 00:44:58,750 --> 00:45:00,625 ...I was completely helpless 494 00:45:00,625 --> 00:45:03,208 and I didn't have anybody to protect me, 495 00:45:03,208 --> 00:45:06,458 and I didn't have anybody to tell me that... 496 00:45:06,458 --> 00:45:08,709 it's okay for me to be who I am. 497 00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:15,000 I've built up these defense mechanisms. 498 00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:19,458 I have these walls and... 499 00:45:21,917 --> 00:45:25,750 ...I had to go through hell to get to that point. 500 00:45:33,625 --> 00:45:35,250 I can get through this. 501 00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:37,583 This is just a few weeks of chaos. 502 00:45:43,709 --> 00:45:46,583 Like I said, it'll be a one-hour interview. 503 00:45:46,583 --> 00:45:49,333 They'll pick us up here at 10:30. 504 00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:51,375 - Yeah. We'll bring the outfit. - Exactly. 505 00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:53,792 Bring the outfit, and there'll be hair and make-up. 506 00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:55,917 - Cool. - Yeah. 507 00:45:55,917 --> 00:45:58,625 The main things is... 508 00:45:58,625 --> 00:46:01,458 the decision-making process 509 00:46:01,458 --> 00:46:04,291 in choosing to disclose the documents. 510 00:46:04,291 --> 00:46:08,250 So, let's say that Juju asks you a question. 511 00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,917 Um... 512 00:46:10,917 --> 00:46:12,709 So, you'd looked at the documents, 513 00:46:12,709 --> 00:46:14,458 and you made the judgment 514 00:46:14,458 --> 00:46:17,625 that they wouldn't harm any individuals 515 00:46:17,625 --> 00:46:19,291 before you disclosed them? 516 00:46:19,291 --> 00:46:21,500 It's not possible to read every single line 517 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:22,792 of every single document. 518 00:46:22,792 --> 00:46:25,291 But I knew exactly what was in these documents. 519 00:46:25,291 --> 00:46:27,333 I knew the specific types of information 520 00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:28,667 in these documents. 521 00:46:28,667 --> 00:46:32,583 And I carefully considered it and, no, I don't believe... 522 00:46:32,583 --> 00:46:34,709 I did not believe that any harm would come 523 00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:36,667 from these documents. 524 00:46:38,959 --> 00:46:40,917 Some of these questions are really hard, 525 00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:42,834 so practice helps a little bit 526 00:46:42,834 --> 00:46:45,959 in being able to navigate. 527 00:46:45,959 --> 00:46:47,834 I'm not somebody who's going on TV 528 00:46:47,834 --> 00:46:49,583 for the sake of being on TV. 529 00:46:49,583 --> 00:46:53,333 I... I-I-I... There is an underlying... 530 00:46:55,125 --> 00:46:58,583 We're in a moment of history, where this stuff is important 531 00:46:58,583 --> 00:47:01,333 and I don't want to screw it up for somebody else. 532 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,542 One of the things that's nice 533 00:47:19,542 --> 00:47:22,458 is, like, when you have a historical figure like this, 534 00:47:22,458 --> 00:47:24,291 is there is something that's um... 535 00:47:25,542 --> 00:47:28,166 ...that's quite powerful about being so up close. 536 00:47:28,166 --> 00:47:30,792 But there's also something very powerful about seeing 537 00:47:30,792 --> 00:47:33,041 her entire body, like, head to toe. 538 00:47:33,041 --> 00:47:36,875 She's, like...the entire figure is present on this cover. 539 00:47:37,709 --> 00:47:41,375 I love how she just totally... 540 00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:43,375 uh...seems at ease. 541 00:47:43,375 --> 00:47:45,041 I like this one because it has... 542 00:47:45,041 --> 00:47:47,250 It feels to me enormous power, 543 00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:48,834 the kind of power that she must have 544 00:47:48,834 --> 00:47:50,709 to be the person she is. 545 00:47:52,542 --> 00:47:55,250 There's something about the atmosphere of that picture, 546 00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:58,083 like, there's a sense of narrative to this one... 547 00:47:58,083 --> 00:47:59,625 Yeah. 548 00:47:59,625 --> 00:48:01,750 There's also, like, some vague suggestion 549 00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:04,500 of, like, an interrogation, or something like that, 550 00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:05,667 sitting in the chair, 551 00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:07,500 in a kind of, like, stripped-down room. 552 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,583 And for her first time, sort of, sitting down 553 00:48:09,583 --> 00:48:12,291 and telling her story, I think that works. 554 00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:20,083 Alright. You ready to go on the record? 555 00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,917 About how many weeks into the second deployment 556 00:48:22,917 --> 00:48:25,917 did you get in touch with WikiLeaks? 557 00:48:25,917 --> 00:48:28,458 It was all one deployment, but after, it was... 558 00:48:28,458 --> 00:48:31,417 It was uh... It was during leave... 559 00:48:31,417 --> 00:48:33,750 It was during my leave that I... 560 00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:35,792 that I started using the site. 561 00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:40,875 It was never about being caught. 562 00:48:40,875 --> 00:48:44,166 I...wanted the information out. 563 00:48:44,792 --> 00:48:46,792 Uh... 564 00:48:46,792 --> 00:48:49,041 I was eventually going to go public. 565 00:48:49,041 --> 00:48:50,959 - You were? - Yes. 566 00:48:50,959 --> 00:48:53,125 I just didn't know how to do that. 567 00:49:04,709 --> 00:49:09,625 Yes, I was worried that being trans would be... 568 00:49:09,625 --> 00:49:11,542 would take over everything else. 569 00:49:14,875 --> 00:49:16,625 Right. I was worried it would... 570 00:49:16,625 --> 00:49:18,500 It would be used against me. 571 00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:23,917 I wanted people to know then the things I was seeing. 572 00:49:35,959 --> 00:49:38,542 Life was cheap in Iraq. 573 00:49:44,583 --> 00:49:46,542 And it made me realize 574 00:49:46,542 --> 00:49:50,041 that... how precious life actually is. 575 00:49:52,792 --> 00:49:55,166 How precious everyone's life is. 576 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:57,667 ♪ tense music ♪ 577 00:50:56,917 --> 00:50:58,125 That's right. 578 00:51:15,417 --> 00:51:19,709 This is a war that resulted in the deaths 579 00:51:19,709 --> 00:51:22,959 of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, 580 00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:26,125 four and a half thousand American soldiers... 581 00:51:34,542 --> 00:51:39,417 It was also a war that we sped into 582 00:51:39,417 --> 00:51:43,166 in no small part because of government secrecy. 583 00:51:44,125 --> 00:51:46,250 How can a nation function 584 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:48,208 if we don't know what we've done? 585 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,667 And the finale of this war, 586 00:52:24,667 --> 00:52:28,375 that started under cover of secrecy and lies, 587 00:52:28,375 --> 00:52:32,166 ends with the prosecution and court martial 588 00:52:32,166 --> 00:52:34,875 of someone who got the truth out. 589 00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:01,250 Mm. 590 00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:13,583 He was good. 591 00:54:14,792 --> 00:54:16,375 Oh... 592 00:54:16,375 --> 00:54:18,792 So sorry, sweetheart. Um... 593 00:54:18,792 --> 00:54:21,792 Ch-Ch-Chelsea. I'm getting used to it now. 594 00:54:22,667 --> 00:54:24,291 Slowly. 595 00:54:25,041 --> 00:54:26,792 It's tough. Tough. 596 00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:32,000 He was always my baby. 597 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,834 He was always my... 598 00:54:36,667 --> 00:54:38,458 ...Bradley. Hm. 599 00:54:44,083 --> 00:54:46,625 He had the box room, where he slept in. 600 00:54:47,417 --> 00:54:49,792 And he had how many computers? 601 00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:53,125 I think it was... one, two, three... 602 00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:58,375 Three computers set up. 603 00:54:59,166 --> 00:55:02,583 And he had this desk chair, 604 00:55:02,583 --> 00:55:04,166 on rollers. 605 00:55:09,417 --> 00:55:11,208 Ah. 606 00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:14,000 And... Oh! And it was locked. 607 00:55:14,792 --> 00:55:16,542 There was a bolt. 608 00:55:16,542 --> 00:55:19,834 I used to say, "That's one room I don't have to clean." 609 00:55:35,959 --> 00:55:37,291 I can't remember. 610 00:55:37,291 --> 00:55:39,125 Quant... Quant-something. 611 00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,375 That's it. 612 00:55:43,375 --> 00:55:46,125 It was a cinder block, cinder block, 613 00:55:46,125 --> 00:55:48,375 and just two chairs. 614 00:55:52,875 --> 00:55:56,250 I-I didn't say a lot because... 615 00:55:57,375 --> 00:55:59,166 ...I don't know. 616 00:55:59,166 --> 00:56:01,125 He's, like... 617 00:56:04,417 --> 00:56:06,709 I couldn't touch, couldn't hug. 618 00:56:08,041 --> 00:56:10,250 He was, like... 619 00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:14,125 Oh. 620 00:56:14,125 --> 00:56:17,625 Sorry. But I do love you. 621 00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:21,208 And if I could hug you, 622 00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:24,250 I'd give you the biggest hug you ever had. 623 00:56:38,125 --> 00:56:39,917 It's ten o'clock. 624 00:56:50,083 --> 00:56:52,000 Twitter's quite addictive. 625 00:56:55,792 --> 00:56:59,208 They're seeing me push back from, you know... 626 00:56:59,208 --> 00:57:03,542 In a reasonable way for the first time. 627 00:57:05,458 --> 00:57:07,709 "I don't agree with what Chelsea Manning did. 628 00:57:07,709 --> 00:57:09,834 There are appropriate channels to go through. 629 00:57:09,834 --> 00:57:11,959 Our national security is important." 630 00:57:11,959 --> 00:57:15,458 And I just... I responded to that 631 00:57:15,458 --> 00:57:19,000 and said, "Ever actually try those channels?" 632 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,959 And that's it. 633 00:57:20,959 --> 00:57:23,834 And, like, people went nuts after that. 634 00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:25,041 So... 635 00:57:26,375 --> 00:57:28,625 "She Will" 636 00:58:27,208 --> 00:58:28,542 ♪ Oh... ♪ 637 00:58:28,542 --> 00:58:31,542 ♪ You've got to get used to it♪ 638 00:58:31,542 --> 00:58:33,875 ♪ And give your heart a little kick ♪ 639 00:58:33,875 --> 00:58:36,959 ♪ She will, she will, she will, she will ♪ 640 00:58:36,959 --> 00:58:40,125 ♪ She will, she will, she will, she will... ♪ 641 00:58:44,375 --> 00:58:47,083 I was trans before I started taking hormones. 642 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:52,500 I'm the same person as I was. 643 00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:55,458 I just am presenting myself differently. 644 00:59:03,458 --> 00:59:05,208 People don't understand 645 00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,291 how young the people are who are in the military. 646 00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,917 I'm uniquely situated to have been the person 647 00:59:12,917 --> 00:59:16,375 that probably interacted with Chelsea face to face the most 648 00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:19,333 over the last several years now. 649 00:59:19,333 --> 00:59:22,375 However many years it's been. I don't even know. 650 00:59:22,375 --> 00:59:26,083 And I have my own sense of who she is as a person, right? 651 00:59:26,083 --> 00:59:28,417 It doesn't always line up and match 652 00:59:28,417 --> 00:59:30,750 what the public perception of Chelsea is. 653 00:59:34,667 --> 00:59:38,041 And I think that she's aware 654 00:59:38,041 --> 00:59:42,250 of that journey ahead of her. 655 00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:46,333 And I think she also recognizes that she can't... 656 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:47,500 You can't really dictate... 657 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:49,291 She can't dictate for herself 658 00:59:49,291 --> 00:59:52,375 which path that's gonna go, right? 659 00:59:52,375 --> 00:59:55,000 Because she's been prevented for the last ten years 660 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,375 of having the kinds of experiences that we had 661 00:59:57,375 --> 00:59:59,583 that helped shape us. 662 00:59:59,583 --> 01:00:03,000 And then that becomes very overwhelming for people. 663 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,333 But particularly for somebody like Chelsea, 664 01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:07,458 who's still trying to be her. 665 01:00:07,458 --> 01:00:10,041 You know, she's still trying to be who she is. 666 01:00:10,959 --> 01:00:14,375 So as she's finally able to be who she is, 667 01:00:14,375 --> 01:00:17,542 I just can't wait to see what she turns into. 668 01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:21,625 Ahh... 669 01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:26,625 Mm... 670 01:00:42,333 --> 01:00:44,583 You are now an icon to many people 671 01:00:44,583 --> 01:00:47,291 who believe that the government needs to be more transparent, 672 01:00:47,291 --> 01:00:49,083 not just in war but in general. 673 01:00:49,083 --> 01:00:50,625 If someone, 674 01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:52,083 let's say a young programmer, 675 01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:53,667 comes to you 676 01:00:53,667 --> 01:00:56,750 who wants to work for more government transparency, 677 01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:59,542 what would you suggest? 678 01:00:59,542 --> 01:01:01,792 Make your own decisions, make your own choices, 679 01:01:01,792 --> 01:01:03,834 make your own judgment... 680 01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:06,500 Are there specific things that they could do 681 01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,166 to further that particular cause? 682 01:01:08,166 --> 01:01:10,834 No. I mean, you have to pay attention. 683 01:01:10,834 --> 01:01:12,291 You have to pay attention. 684 01:01:12,291 --> 01:01:16,542 How did the turmoil that you were going through 685 01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:20,417 in terms of thinking about transitioning... 686 01:01:20,417 --> 01:01:23,709 How did that affect your disclosures later on... 687 01:01:23,709 --> 01:01:25,709 - I don't... - ...as your attorney says? 688 01:01:25,709 --> 01:01:27,083 I don't think it did. You know, 689 01:01:27,083 --> 01:01:30,375 it was this endless, straight, like, you know, like... 690 01:01:30,375 --> 01:01:32,125 They're not connected. 691 01:01:32,125 --> 01:01:33,583 I don't think they're connected. 692 01:01:33,583 --> 01:01:35,792 I see the, like, endless stream 693 01:01:35,792 --> 01:01:37,875 of violence and death and destruction 694 01:01:37,875 --> 01:01:40,083 as being the primary motivator. 695 01:01:40,083 --> 01:01:41,583 Okay. 696 01:01:41,583 --> 01:01:45,291 Now, WikiLeaks, it's gone a whole road since back then. 697 01:01:45,291 --> 01:01:47,542 What did you know about WikiLeaks in 2010? 698 01:01:47,542 --> 01:01:49,750 What did you... It was much more obscure. 699 01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:51,709 Well, I mean... Yeah, it was, it was. 700 01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:53,750 I wasn't really a part of, like, you know... 701 01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:55,792 It was, like... I was, like... 702 01:01:55,792 --> 01:01:57,917 I was running out of time and decisions 703 01:01:57,917 --> 01:01:59,625 and they just had the tools available. 704 01:01:59,625 --> 01:02:01,458 They knew how to use them. That was it. 705 01:02:01,458 --> 01:02:02,917 That's all it boiled own to. 706 01:02:02,917 --> 01:02:04,667 It's like, I... I was running out of time. 707 01:02:04,667 --> 01:02:07,250 - Because you had to go to Iraq. - I had to go back to Iraq. 708 01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:08,625 And, you know... 709 01:02:08,625 --> 01:02:12,375 There was no way I was gonna be able to upload it from Iraq. 710 01:02:12,375 --> 01:02:15,500 You know, it's a policy of newspapers to redact names 711 01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:18,625 to protect the identities of people who might be in danger 712 01:02:18,625 --> 01:02:21,750 and the head of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, 713 01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,375 believes in much more complete transparency 714 01:02:24,375 --> 01:02:27,333 and he believes that it would contaminate the evidence, 715 01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:28,583 to use his phrase, 716 01:02:28,583 --> 01:02:30,250 if you did redact those names. 717 01:02:30,250 --> 01:02:33,083 And so he did not, in some cases, 718 01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:37,500 which potentially endangered informants, 719 01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,208 particularly in Afghanistan. 720 01:02:39,208 --> 01:02:41,250 We strongly dispute those facts. 721 01:02:41,250 --> 01:02:42,375 Okay. 722 01:02:42,375 --> 01:02:44,083 We strongly dispute those facts. 723 01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:47,583 The government was not able to show any indication of that. 724 01:02:47,583 --> 01:02:49,625 - Yes, yes. - Zero. 725 01:02:49,625 --> 01:02:52,959 Did you not fear sending out these things 726 01:02:52,959 --> 01:02:54,750 that you didn't know what was in them? 727 01:02:54,750 --> 01:02:57,166 I did know. I worked with this information every day. 728 01:02:57,166 --> 01:02:59,208 Did you not fear that it might hurt someone 729 01:02:59,208 --> 01:03:01,458 - if you didn't know exactly... - Absolutely not. 730 01:03:01,458 --> 01:03:02,709 It was historical data. 731 01:03:02,709 --> 01:03:04,500 There's no sources. There's no methods. 732 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,125 There's no intelligence information in here. 733 01:03:07,125 --> 01:03:10,667 It's not there. It's people dying and people getting killed 734 01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:12,500 and people suffering 735 01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:14,875 and on a massive, incredible scale. 736 01:03:18,542 --> 01:03:21,667 As a result... I'm going to skip ahead a little bit... 737 01:03:21,667 --> 01:03:23,041 It must be a difficult position 738 01:03:23,041 --> 01:03:26,458 because you're an important public figure for many people 739 01:03:26,458 --> 01:03:28,083 and yet I can understand 740 01:03:28,083 --> 01:03:30,917 how you want to just get on with a new life as well 741 01:03:30,917 --> 01:03:32,667 and these things keep coming back. 742 01:03:32,667 --> 01:03:34,667 How do you deal with that? 743 01:03:38,417 --> 01:03:39,875 I don't know. 744 01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:43,500 I haven't figured that out yet. 745 01:05:58,291 --> 01:06:00,875 How did you survive in solitary confinement? 746 01:06:05,834 --> 01:06:09,500 I just remember, you know, whenever I was in Kuwait, 747 01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:11,667 that I died. 748 01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,500 I was alive but I was dead. 749 01:06:17,667 --> 01:06:20,583 And I've been dead ever since. 750 01:06:20,583 --> 01:06:22,583 Sort of... If that makes any sense. 751 01:06:25,417 --> 01:06:28,667 Like, somehow I'm, like, in this visceral, like, purgatory 752 01:06:28,667 --> 01:06:32,709 between...the two. 753 01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,875 And that time. 754 01:06:35,875 --> 01:06:38,041 And then I wake up for a while. 755 01:06:40,625 --> 01:06:42,834 I just want to forget it ever happened. 756 01:06:49,458 --> 01:06:51,166 I just want to not be reminded 757 01:06:51,166 --> 01:06:53,083 that it ever happened to me ever. 758 01:06:55,959 --> 01:06:58,959 I think that the moments that I've enjoyed, 759 01:06:59,917 --> 01:07:01,417 you know, in the years since, 760 01:07:01,417 --> 01:07:04,208 have been whenever I've completely forgotten. 761 01:07:19,125 --> 01:07:22,041 People want me to relive it and I can't. 762 01:07:28,375 --> 01:07:31,834 I'm just trying to find some closure 763 01:07:31,834 --> 01:07:33,583 and some peace to all this. 764 01:07:36,125 --> 01:07:39,041 I live in a state of, you know, uncertainty 765 01:07:39,041 --> 01:07:41,709 and I feel like every step I take 766 01:07:41,709 --> 01:07:44,583 is a step on thin ice. 767 01:07:44,583 --> 01:07:46,208 I mean, I'm just, you know, 768 01:07:46,208 --> 01:07:49,250 I'm just another one of us that's scared. 769 01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:52,083 You know. I just... I find myself backed in a corner 770 01:07:52,083 --> 01:07:53,750 and there's no other way to go 771 01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:55,583 other than to fight back 772 01:07:55,583 --> 01:07:59,125 and I'm certainly not going to wait for somebody to save me. 773 01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:03,750 Or save any of us. 774 01:08:05,291 --> 01:08:08,250 I'm certainly not going to wait for anybody to save any of us 775 01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:12,458 because, chances are... nobody's coming. 776 01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:18,291 Go ahead. 777 01:08:26,125 --> 01:08:30,166 These are not the people that made our country great. 778 01:08:30,166 --> 01:08:32,208 But we're gonna make it great again. 779 01:08:34,041 --> 01:08:37,291 These are the people that are destroying our country. 780 01:08:39,792 --> 01:08:41,083 The Trump administration's ban 781 01:08:41,083 --> 01:08:42,500 on military service 782 01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:43,792 by transgender people 783 01:08:43,792 --> 01:08:45,417 was announced via Tweet. 784 01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:47,750 What happens to transgender service members now? 785 01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:50,041 Are they immediately thrown out of the military? 786 01:09:24,792 --> 01:09:27,000 - Hey. 787 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,917 - How are ya? - I'm doing okay. 788 01:09:28,917 --> 01:09:32,917 I just wanted to check in 'cause I know I've been super busy. 789 01:09:32,917 --> 01:09:35,375 Yeah. It's nice to hear your voice. 790 01:09:35,375 --> 01:09:37,208 It's like everything's just falling apart 791 01:09:37,208 --> 01:09:39,250 and getting worse and becoming a disaster again. 792 01:09:39,250 --> 01:09:41,500 - Mm-hm. - My safe is coming. 793 01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:45,041 And my surveillance cameras are... I have them installed. 794 01:09:45,041 --> 01:09:46,709 I just need to wire them. 795 01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:48,583 Good. You do what needs to be done. 796 01:09:48,583 --> 01:09:49,709 Yeah. 797 01:09:51,166 --> 01:09:52,875 As soon as I started to see... 798 01:09:52,875 --> 01:09:54,250 As soon as Charlottesville happened, 799 01:09:54,250 --> 01:09:56,542 I was, like, I need security. 800 01:10:03,041 --> 01:10:06,125 For the last six months, the alt-right, 801 01:10:06,125 --> 01:10:08,291 they've been, like, mobilized, 802 01:10:08,291 --> 01:10:13,333 and emboldened by the fact that, 803 01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:15,250 you know, they have an administration 804 01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:17,458 that appears to be favorable to them. 805 01:10:25,333 --> 01:10:28,166 Can you explain what we're doing? 806 01:10:31,875 --> 01:10:34,166 For somebody like me, like a trans person, 807 01:10:34,166 --> 01:10:36,875 or somebody who's black or brown in this country, 808 01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:40,542 or Jewish in this country... this is an existential threat. 809 01:10:40,542 --> 01:10:44,792 You know, today it might not be an existential threat. 810 01:10:44,792 --> 01:10:47,917 But five years from now, it's an absolute existential threat. 811 01:10:53,542 --> 01:10:56,333 We can be afraid to say something sometimes. 812 01:10:56,333 --> 01:11:00,250 And I'm not as afraid any more as I used to be 813 01:11:00,250 --> 01:11:02,625 of saying the thing that needs to be said. 814 01:11:05,041 --> 01:11:06,917 What are they gonna do? 815 01:11:06,917 --> 01:11:09,125 Throw me in prison? 816 01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:11,959 Or kill me? 817 01:11:11,959 --> 01:11:14,125 They're gonna do that anyway. 818 01:11:14,125 --> 01:11:17,417 If we let them, you know... 819 01:11:17,417 --> 01:11:21,542 If we let them take the reins of our society. 820 01:11:21,542 --> 01:11:24,041 You know, like, they're gonna do that anyway. 821 01:11:24,875 --> 01:11:28,125 So I'd rather go down fighting. 822 01:11:30,291 --> 01:11:32,291 ♪ dramatic instrumental music ♪ 823 01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:42,166 Here I am. 824 01:11:42,166 --> 01:11:44,333 - Chelsea! - Whoo! 825 01:11:46,792 --> 01:11:49,041 I was told not to come here by numerous people. 826 01:11:49,041 --> 01:11:50,500 Fuck 'em! - Yeah. 827 01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:53,000 For so long, I wasn't able to even be seen 828 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,333 or be out on the streets. 829 01:11:54,333 --> 01:11:56,250 I've been in prison for seven years. 830 01:11:56,250 --> 01:11:59,000 It was being silenced that made me so afraid and so... 831 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,125 You're a hero! 832 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:06,959 When I first got out, I did not think I was gonna be 833 01:12:06,959 --> 01:12:09,166 jumping straight back into activism. 834 01:12:10,375 --> 01:12:12,166 I feel embattled. 835 01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:16,875 I've seen what an occupied country is. 836 01:12:16,875 --> 01:12:19,917 And I've seen what local suppression looks like. 837 01:12:20,959 --> 01:12:23,125 And I'm seeing all of this right here 838 01:12:23,125 --> 01:12:26,875 in a place that I want to call home. 839 01:12:40,291 --> 01:12:42,458 - Good? Good? - Yes. 840 01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:44,208 Good? Good? 841 01:12:44,208 --> 01:12:46,208 - Consensus. - Consensus. 842 01:12:46,208 --> 01:12:47,834 Tweet. 843 01:12:47,834 --> 01:12:49,041 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 844 01:12:52,959 --> 01:12:54,917 We need to stop expecting 845 01:12:54,917 --> 01:12:58,125 that our systems will somehow fix themselves. 846 01:12:58,125 --> 01:13:02,083 We need to actually take the reins of power from them. 847 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,291 We need to fix this. 848 01:13:05,291 --> 01:13:07,417 USA! USA! 849 01:13:07,417 --> 01:13:09,625 Damn right we got this. 850 01:13:12,542 --> 01:13:13,750 Whistle-blower Chelsea Manning 851 01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:15,750 surprised the political world this week 852 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,458 by announcing she was running for the US Senate. 853 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:23,208 Manning is challenging Democratic incumbent Ben Cardin 854 01:13:23,208 --> 01:13:25,208 in the upcoming June primaries. 855 01:13:26,083 --> 01:13:28,250 You are on the air. Go ahead, please. 856 01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:29,417 My question is, so, Chelsea, 857 01:13:29,417 --> 01:13:31,458 you had some suicide attempts in prison. 858 01:13:31,458 --> 01:13:33,458 For someone who's had those kind of issues, 859 01:13:33,458 --> 01:13:35,417 what makes you the candidate 860 01:13:35,417 --> 01:13:37,750 to represent the people of Maryland? 861 01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:39,875 Are you suggesting that someone 862 01:13:39,875 --> 01:13:41,917 who has suffered from clinical depression 863 01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:43,792 is not qualified to run for office? 864 01:13:43,792 --> 01:13:44,834 No, that's not what I'm suggesting. 865 01:13:44,834 --> 01:13:45,917 Okay. 866 01:13:45,917 --> 01:13:48,041 He's asking, are you mentally stable now 867 01:13:48,041 --> 01:13:51,250 given all the horrific...? I think that's what he's asking. 868 01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,166 Given discussions about the President 869 01:13:53,166 --> 01:13:55,500 and his mental stability, 870 01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,375 I think that should be something 871 01:13:57,375 --> 01:13:59,333 we ask about all candidates. 872 01:13:59,333 --> 01:14:00,917 I strongly disagree. 873 01:14:00,917 --> 01:14:03,291 You know, we shouldn't be stigmatizing anybody 874 01:14:03,291 --> 01:14:04,917 for any mental health issues. 875 01:14:04,917 --> 01:14:06,458 You know. But um... 876 01:14:06,458 --> 01:14:10,125 Like, I'm more than willing to admit I'm in therapy. 877 01:14:10,125 --> 01:14:12,417 As a senator, would you release confidential information 878 01:14:12,417 --> 01:14:14,583 that was being held by Senate panel? 879 01:14:14,583 --> 01:14:18,250 No, but I would certainly move to push for as much transparency 880 01:14:18,250 --> 01:14:20,709 in government as possible. 881 01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:22,709 You're challenging the Democratic incumbent 882 01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:24,166 in the primary. 883 01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:26,542 Your platform includes closing prisons, 884 01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:28,917 free college, universal healthcare... 885 01:14:33,834 --> 01:14:36,166 Hi, I'm Chelsea Manning. I'm running for US Senate. 886 01:14:36,166 --> 01:14:38,333 And I get asked this a lot by reporters, you know. 887 01:14:38,333 --> 01:14:40,417 "Why are you running for Senate?" 888 01:14:40,417 --> 01:14:43,583 If you look around and you look at everything that's going on, 889 01:14:43,583 --> 01:14:45,458 whether it's the immigration debate, 890 01:14:45,458 --> 01:14:48,792 healthcare or police, police brutality, 891 01:14:48,792 --> 01:14:50,166 and mass surveillance... 892 01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:52,417 Like, why the hell wouldn't I be running? 893 01:14:52,417 --> 01:14:54,041 You know, in this environment, 894 01:14:54,041 --> 01:14:57,000 in this toxic environment that we live in, 895 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,709 where's our say? 896 01:15:06,083 --> 01:15:07,625 We're just trying to excite people. 897 01:15:07,625 --> 01:15:09,083 And... And... 898 01:15:09,083 --> 01:15:11,041 Yeah, we know it's an uphill battle. 899 01:15:11,041 --> 01:15:13,291 We know... 900 01:15:13,291 --> 01:15:16,458 words like "Cinderella story", 901 01:15:16,458 --> 01:15:18,959 "long shot", "underdog", 902 01:15:18,959 --> 01:15:20,917 words like that are going to be applied. 903 01:15:22,041 --> 01:15:23,417 Is it stressful? Oh, yeah. 904 01:15:23,417 --> 01:15:25,542 This is very stressful. 905 01:15:25,542 --> 01:15:29,542 But we also know that 906 01:15:29,542 --> 01:15:31,375 at the end of it all 907 01:15:31,375 --> 01:15:34,417 we're going to be so happy that we tried. 908 01:15:34,417 --> 01:15:36,625 Changing the world isn't easy. 909 01:15:36,625 --> 01:15:39,291 It's not. I mean... 910 01:15:39,291 --> 01:15:41,458 Chelsea knows. 911 01:16:10,834 --> 01:16:12,917 If you're an intelligence analyst, 912 01:16:12,917 --> 01:16:15,500 you really have to understand your opponent. 913 01:16:17,542 --> 01:16:19,750 And you have to think like your opponent. 914 01:16:21,417 --> 01:16:24,291 A certain amount of empathy is a requirement 915 01:16:24,291 --> 01:16:26,250 to being effective. 916 01:16:35,917 --> 01:16:38,417 Whenever I've protested 917 01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:40,834 against the alt-right, 918 01:16:40,834 --> 01:16:43,625 I realized that Cassandra Fairbanks 919 01:16:43,625 --> 01:16:45,208 was there. 920 01:16:45,208 --> 01:16:48,125 She was a supporter in my campaign 921 01:16:48,125 --> 01:16:50,000 to get me out of prison. 922 01:16:55,291 --> 01:16:57,458 I decided to use that connection 923 01:16:57,458 --> 01:17:00,250 to try to see what information we could glean 924 01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:03,667 from that particular flavor of the alt-right. 925 01:17:06,083 --> 01:17:09,000 It's called rapport-building in intelligence work. 926 01:17:11,458 --> 01:17:14,500 I didn't really know what the fuck I was getting myself into. 927 01:17:17,417 --> 01:17:19,500 I finally hit the jackpot. 928 01:17:20,458 --> 01:17:23,417 She invited me to an event. 929 01:17:23,417 --> 01:17:27,417 All of alt-right Twitter in the same fucking room. 930 01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:31,208 USA! USA! 931 01:17:32,166 --> 01:17:34,333 Manning... 932 01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:36,375 We're never coming down. 933 01:17:36,375 --> 01:17:38,291 We took America back. 934 01:17:38,291 --> 01:17:40,291 America's ours now. 935 01:17:40,291 --> 01:17:41,709 We're never coming down. 936 01:17:41,709 --> 01:17:43,458 - Never! - Never! 937 01:17:43,458 --> 01:17:45,166 - Never coming down. 938 01:17:45,166 --> 01:17:47,166 - We're never coming down. - We're coming to get you 939 01:17:47,166 --> 01:17:48,500 if you try and take our firearms! 940 01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:49,709 America's back! 941 01:17:49,709 --> 01:17:52,333 - That's what's up! - You piece of filth! 942 01:18:54,125 --> 01:18:56,375 Everybody keeps getting mad at me. 943 01:18:56,375 --> 01:18:58,542 Every time I open my phone, people are mad at me. 944 01:18:58,542 --> 01:19:01,250 Every time they fucking talk to me, I have to break shit up. 945 01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:02,542 They're fucking... 946 01:19:02,542 --> 01:19:05,583 And guess what, they're gonna counter-attack for months, okay? 947 01:19:05,583 --> 01:19:06,750 Every time we do something, 948 01:19:06,750 --> 01:19:08,250 they're going to fucking respond. 949 01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:09,417 - Shh. - We're not going to. 950 01:19:09,417 --> 01:19:10,834 Chelsea, I'm not mad. 951 01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:12,917 - I'm not mad. - Yeah, you are. 952 01:19:12,917 --> 01:19:15,208 You might not think you're mad but you're mad. 953 01:19:15,208 --> 01:19:17,458 Do you realize, this is like a scene in the movie 954 01:19:17,458 --> 01:19:19,000 when all the good guys realize 955 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,834 that the enemies are manipulating them 956 01:19:20,834 --> 01:19:22,375 and dividing them against each other. 957 01:19:22,375 --> 01:19:23,959 We are a roomful of allies. 958 01:19:23,959 --> 01:19:26,625 We're all on the same team in here and we're fighting. 959 01:19:34,166 --> 01:19:36,625 - This is old fucking news. - Okay. 960 01:19:37,875 --> 01:19:40,125 Seven days old now. 961 01:19:41,166 --> 01:19:42,875 I'm tired of fucking hearing about this. 962 01:19:42,875 --> 01:19:45,417 I am too. We all are. 963 01:19:45,417 --> 01:19:47,959 This is driving us into the fucking ground. 964 01:19:50,083 --> 01:19:51,625 We've said so much to your supporters, 965 01:19:51,625 --> 01:19:53,291 so much to people who were upset. 966 01:19:53,291 --> 01:19:55,125 We can't say any more to smooth it over. 967 01:19:55,125 --> 01:19:57,208 Nothing we say will change anyone's minds. 968 01:19:57,208 --> 01:19:59,834 No matter what we do, people's minds are set. 969 01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:09,875 This week was fucking traumatic. 970 01:20:09,875 --> 01:20:11,917 And I am over it. I'm so over it. 971 01:20:12,542 --> 01:20:13,667 You don't fucking... 972 01:20:13,667 --> 01:20:15,917 You don't do that. You don't play their game. 973 01:20:15,917 --> 01:20:17,875 Yeah, don't play their game. Thank you. 974 01:20:19,458 --> 01:20:21,667 I messed this up. 975 01:20:24,041 --> 01:20:26,000 ♪ brooding violin music ♪ 976 01:21:04,542 --> 01:21:06,917 I knew I'd fucked up. 977 01:21:06,917 --> 01:21:10,875 I immediately knew that it was indefensible. 978 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,458 It was wrong. 979 01:21:33,959 --> 01:21:35,917 I don't know what people are expecting out of me. 980 01:21:35,917 --> 01:21:38,542 I mean, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 981 01:21:38,542 --> 01:21:40,500 I just got out of prison. 982 01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:46,750 You know. And here we are. 983 01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,834 We're right next to Quantico, by the way. 984 01:21:48,834 --> 01:21:50,625 Where we are. 985 01:21:50,625 --> 01:21:52,709 So... About a mile and a half 986 01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:55,583 from where I was held in solitary confinement. 987 01:22:12,917 --> 01:22:16,458 I was never gonna be a... a mouthpiece. 988 01:22:19,959 --> 01:22:22,125 I'm not a hero. 989 01:22:27,792 --> 01:22:29,792 I'm just somebody who... 990 01:22:32,417 --> 01:22:34,792 ...you know... 991 01:22:34,792 --> 01:22:36,959 I've always been somebody 992 01:22:36,959 --> 01:22:39,291 willing to, like, jump in and do something. 993 01:22:45,125 --> 01:22:47,667 I've spoken through other family members to her 994 01:22:47,667 --> 01:22:49,709 but it's very difficult to reach her. 995 01:22:56,834 --> 01:22:59,083 You know, and she's not well. 996 01:23:00,792 --> 01:23:03,000 She had a stroke. Yeah. 997 01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:07,208 I try to not get them involved 998 01:23:07,208 --> 01:23:09,417 in all the craziness that happens around me. 999 01:23:13,625 --> 01:23:16,667 I heard from my father but... we don't talk much. 1000 01:23:22,667 --> 01:23:24,583 Our... 1001 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,083 Our positions on life are so divergent 1002 01:23:30,083 --> 01:23:32,709 that I don't know if we can reconcile. 1003 01:23:33,917 --> 01:23:35,959 I don't know if we can reconcile. 1004 01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:41,917 He cared less about me being gay. 1005 01:23:43,041 --> 01:23:47,291 I think he's kind of in denial about my trans-ness. 1006 01:23:50,667 --> 01:23:52,125 I think... 1007 01:23:54,792 --> 01:23:56,583 I think... 1008 01:24:00,709 --> 01:24:02,709 I think he doesn't know who I am. 1009 01:25:11,041 --> 01:25:12,959 Suspicions undoubtedly have been raised 1010 01:25:12,959 --> 01:25:15,792 that this happened to Chelsea Manning. 1011 01:25:15,792 --> 01:25:17,542 The police raid her home with guns drawn 1012 01:25:17,542 --> 01:25:19,500 in this so-called "Wellness Check". 1013 01:25:20,792 --> 01:25:22,625 She's a candidate for the US Senate 1014 01:25:22,625 --> 01:25:24,208 who is known for participating 1015 01:25:24,208 --> 01:25:26,166 in political protests. 1016 01:25:57,125 --> 01:25:59,000 Come on, Janice. 1017 01:26:03,166 --> 01:26:05,166 Hey, I have the final statement 1018 01:26:05,166 --> 01:26:07,333 if you want me to read it. 1019 01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:08,667 Uh-huh. 1020 01:26:09,959 --> 01:26:12,417 "Last year, when I was released from prison, 1021 01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:15,041 I emerged into a world of hate and injustice. 1022 01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:18,291 I wondered if I should spend 1023 01:26:18,291 --> 01:26:20,041 my first year of freedom recovering. 1024 01:26:20,875 --> 01:26:23,875 But I couldn't sit still. 1025 01:26:23,875 --> 01:26:26,250 I tried to use my platform as a public figure 1026 01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:27,625 to send a message. 1027 01:26:27,625 --> 01:26:29,625 Every one of us has power. 1028 01:26:31,083 --> 01:26:33,542 Over the past several months it has become clear 1029 01:26:33,542 --> 01:26:36,208 that my experiences have taken an enormous toll 1030 01:26:36,208 --> 01:26:38,375 on my physical and emotional health. 1031 01:26:40,083 --> 01:26:41,750 I stepped back from campaigning 1032 01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:43,750 to prioritize my own well-being. 1033 01:26:46,041 --> 01:26:48,875 I found the space and the treatment I need to heal. 1034 01:26:49,917 --> 01:26:51,375 I'm not giving up. 1035 01:26:51,375 --> 01:26:53,792 I'm grateful for everyone who believes in me. 1036 01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:57,208 Together we got this." 1037 01:26:57,208 --> 01:26:59,500 - Does that sound good? 1038 01:27:01,792 --> 01:27:04,000 Chelsea? 1039 01:27:20,917 --> 01:27:23,667 It's harder to do the right thing 1040 01:27:23,667 --> 01:27:26,583 than it is to go within the process. 1041 01:27:28,750 --> 01:27:31,792 And so I think everybody has to make their own call 1042 01:27:31,792 --> 01:27:33,834 as to what they're willing to do. 1043 01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:42,792 Being trans, being queer as a kid... 1044 01:27:45,458 --> 01:27:47,041 ...being unwanted 1045 01:27:47,041 --> 01:27:48,917 and being unloved... 1046 01:27:48,917 --> 01:27:52,125 being not cared about... 1047 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,542 ...I've always felt a close connection 1048 01:27:56,542 --> 01:27:59,792 with the people who are hurting the most. 1049 01:28:02,166 --> 01:28:03,750 If I wasn't exposed to that, 1050 01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:05,959 maybe I could ignore it or not see it. 1051 01:28:05,959 --> 01:28:07,542 But I can't. 1052 01:28:42,500 --> 01:28:44,542 I think Chelsea will always be 1053 01:28:44,542 --> 01:28:46,417 looking over her shoulder... 1054 01:28:46,417 --> 01:28:47,834 ♪ foreboding music ♪ 1055 01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:50,709 ...for the rest of her life. 1056 01:28:54,542 --> 01:28:56,041 In this country, once you've been marked 1057 01:28:56,041 --> 01:28:57,500 as an enemy of the state, 1058 01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,291 I think you'll always be an enemy of the state 1059 01:29:00,291 --> 01:29:02,375 and you'll always have to worry 1060 01:29:02,375 --> 01:29:05,083 that they'll find some other reason. 1061 01:29:10,041 --> 01:29:14,625 There is this sense of impending doom 1062 01:29:14,625 --> 01:29:17,917 that just never dissipates and never goes away. 1063 01:29:27,208 --> 01:29:29,250 Chelsea Manning is back behind bars 1064 01:29:29,250 --> 01:29:31,041 after refusing to testify 1065 01:29:31,041 --> 01:29:34,125 in an investigation into WikiLeaks. 1066 01:29:34,125 --> 01:29:37,041 Manning can be held for a maximum of 18 months 1067 01:29:37,041 --> 01:29:38,583 for refusing to testify. 1068 01:29:38,583 --> 01:29:40,667 Her attorney says they'll likely appeal. 1069 01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:44,667 As everybody knows, Chelsea has tremendous courage. 1070 01:29:44,667 --> 01:29:47,750 Our primary concern at this point is her health 1071 01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:49,583 - while she is confined. 1072 01:29:49,583 --> 01:29:52,959 Julian Assange's arrest in London on Thursday, 1073 01:29:52,959 --> 01:29:56,417 inside Ecuador's embassy, was done by British police 1074 01:29:56,417 --> 01:29:59,750 under a warrant from the United States for extradition. 1075 01:29:59,750 --> 01:30:02,750 This is the charge that he faces. Conspiracy. 1076 01:30:02,750 --> 01:30:05,333 Specifically related to hacking a government computer 1077 01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:07,917 and his relationship to Chelsea Manning. 1078 01:30:12,875 --> 01:30:14,750 It was a perjury trap. 1079 01:30:14,750 --> 01:30:16,333 Oh, it is a perjury trap. 1080 01:30:16,333 --> 01:30:19,917 How do you think she's holding up? Do you have any idea? 1081 01:30:19,917 --> 01:30:23,500 I'm worried and I think other people are worried about her. 1082 01:30:24,458 --> 01:30:27,125 I'm really concerned now about the... 1083 01:30:27,125 --> 01:30:30,333 that they're holding her in solitary. 1084 01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:32,625 The grand jury can go for what? About 18 months. 1085 01:30:32,625 --> 01:30:34,542 And then they can start all over again. 1086 01:30:34,542 --> 01:30:37,125 - They could. - They can go forever. 1087 01:30:37,125 --> 01:30:39,542 She's gonna have to do something to... 1088 01:30:39,542 --> 01:30:43,125 motivate herself to go through this. 1089 01:30:43,125 --> 01:30:44,750 ♪ tense music ♪ 1090 01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:07,834 It's never gonna stop. 1091 01:31:07,834 --> 01:31:09,750 They're not gonna stop. 1092 01:31:11,667 --> 01:31:14,375 It's not gonna stop until we stop them. 1093 01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:18,542 "Deep Space Probe" 1094 01:31:31,583 --> 01:31:35,542 ♪ I used to be silent ♪ 1095 01:31:35,542 --> 01:31:38,375 ♪ Now I am ready ♪ 1096 01:31:38,375 --> 01:31:41,166 ♪ To let it all ♪ 1097 01:31:42,542 --> 01:31:46,250 ♪ Let it all out ♪ 1098 01:31:48,125 --> 01:31:51,125 ♪ There's a sadness in me ♪ 1099 01:31:52,208 --> 01:31:55,083 ♪ I cannot control ♪ 1100 01:31:55,083 --> 01:31:57,375 ♪ I let it all ♪ 1101 01:31:59,375 --> 01:32:02,709 ♪ Let it all out ♪ 1102 01:32:05,166 --> 01:32:07,041 ♪ Out on the streets ♪ 1103 01:32:09,250 --> 01:32:12,542 ♪ On the stupid and the weak ♪ 1104 01:32:14,375 --> 01:32:16,375 ♪ You can hold me now ♪ 1105 01:32:18,291 --> 01:32:20,125 ♪ You can hold me now ♪ 1106 01:32:20,125 --> 01:32:24,083 ♪ Let it all ♪ 1107 01:32:28,083 --> 01:32:32,458 ♪ Let it all ♪