WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:30.943 --> 00:00:32.771 - It was early in the morning 4 00:00:32.815 --> 00:00:34.382 on the streets of Philadelphia. 5 00:00:34.425 --> 00:00:36.123 It was freezing cold. 6 00:00:36.166 --> 00:00:39.213 And I just started to feel something welling inside. 7 00:00:39.256 --> 00:00:41.041 And they go, "Sly, are you ready?" 8 00:00:41.084 --> 00:00:43.217 I go, "I'm not. 9 00:00:43.260 --> 00:00:44.087 "But Rocky is." 10 00:01:32.266 --> 00:01:36.444 I was a complete unknown, even unknown to myself. 11 00:01:36.487 --> 00:01:37.836 And I had this idea. 12 00:01:38.881 --> 00:01:41.492 A lot of people were feeling kind of the way I was, 13 00:01:41.536 --> 00:01:42.885 going nowhere fast. 14 00:01:44.191 --> 00:01:46.584 And I didn't know whether I had it or not. 15 00:01:49.761 --> 00:01:52.547 So I wrote this story about an underdog, 16 00:01:52.590 --> 00:01:55.071 a person who wasn't very appreciated, 17 00:01:55.941 --> 00:01:59.380 and I was given a break by United Artist 18 00:01:59.423 --> 00:02:02.992 and now, you had to put up or shut up, 19 00:02:03.035 --> 00:02:05.777 so I couldn't believe my good fortune 20 00:02:05.821 --> 00:02:08.519 and every day we'd go to the studio 21 00:02:08.563 --> 00:02:10.304 and work on the script a littlebit. 22 00:02:10.347 --> 00:02:14.090 Of course, I had a bit of an odd personality I guess. 23 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:17.833 Maybe I was born to play this part, I don't know, 24 00:02:17.876 --> 00:02:20.314 but it just seemed to fit into all the things 25 00:02:20.357 --> 00:02:22.446 that I sort of believed in. 26 00:02:25.232 --> 00:02:26.972 Anyway, we started working on 27 00:02:27.016 --> 00:02:29.671 experimental ideas about boxing. 28 00:02:29.714 --> 00:02:31.542 There had been many boxing filmslike, 29 00:02:31.586 --> 00:02:34.937 maybe over 300 made in Hollywood 30 00:02:34.980 --> 00:02:37.026 and they weren't very successfulso 31 00:02:37.069 --> 00:02:39.028 I couldn't believe my good luck here 32 00:02:39.071 --> 00:02:42.466 when they're doing a boxing film about this character. 33 00:02:42.510 --> 00:02:46.383 But the point is, it wasn't a boxing film. 34 00:02:46.427 --> 00:02:50.605 It was a story about obsolescence, 35 00:02:50.648 --> 00:02:53.216 about not getting an opportunityin life, 36 00:02:53.260 --> 00:02:58.090 and more importantly, eventually, a serious love story. 37 00:02:58.134 --> 00:03:00.484 And he happens to be a boxer. 38 00:03:00.528 --> 00:03:02.443 So the relationship comes a little bit later on 39 00:03:02.486 --> 00:03:04.314 but it's the key to the whole movie. 40 00:03:10.973 --> 00:03:12.496 John Avildsen in the background. 41 00:03:12.540 --> 00:03:14.281 He always took these, he's driving me crazy 42 00:03:14.324 --> 00:03:15.978 with these eight millimeter films 43 00:03:16.021 --> 00:03:17.936 but here we are, so I'm glad he did it. 44 00:03:17.980 --> 00:03:21.853 But at the time I thought, what a waste of film. 45 00:03:21.897 --> 00:03:24.639 Now, Mike Westmore, who was a great, great, great 46 00:03:24.682 --> 00:03:27.076 makeup artist, part of the Westmore family, 47 00:03:27.119 --> 00:03:29.252 he started doing all of the experiments. 48 00:03:29.296 --> 00:03:31.472 Here again, I'm just overdoing everything. 49 00:03:32.690 --> 00:03:34.518 Makeup tests. 50 00:03:34.562 --> 00:03:38.174 And it was great, but I ended up with barely any eyebrows 51 00:03:38.218 --> 00:03:41.569 left the rest of my life, so there is that. 52 00:03:41.612 --> 00:03:44.224 At one time I actually wanted Rocky to look 53 00:03:44.267 --> 00:03:46.095 very, very punchy and I thought, 54 00:03:46.138 --> 00:03:49.011 why don't you glue my nose to the side of my face? 55 00:03:49.054 --> 00:03:52.232 So they got this kind of colostomy bad glue 56 00:03:52.275 --> 00:03:54.930 and it was so bad, it looked like a cartoon, 57 00:03:54.973 --> 00:03:57.715 like I had run into a wall like Gumby. 58 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:02.590 So anyway as you can see, Itook things to kind of extremes. 59 00:04:02.633 --> 00:04:05.723 I mean, it looks like a lost clam. 60 00:04:13.862 --> 00:04:15.690 We got lucky with Burgess Meredith 61 00:04:15.733 --> 00:04:19.737 who was a world class actor with 50 years experience 62 00:04:19.781 --> 00:04:21.913 and he took it very serious. 63 00:04:22.914 --> 00:04:25.265 He was fantastic and developed his character 64 00:04:25.308 --> 00:04:28.442 that was based on a real character 65 00:04:28.485 --> 00:04:30.748 and he had all the mannerisms. 66 00:04:30.792 --> 00:04:31.967 'Cause I did real good last night, 67 00:04:32.010 --> 00:04:33.273 and you should've seen me. 68 00:04:33.316 --> 00:04:34.361 - Big deal. 69 00:04:34.404 --> 00:04:35.927 - You should've seen me, too. 70 00:04:35.971 --> 00:04:37.451 - Hey, kid. 71 00:04:37.494 --> 00:04:39.322 You ever think about retiring? 72 00:04:39.366 --> 00:04:40.497 - No. 73 00:04:40.541 --> 00:04:42.151 - You think about it. 74 00:04:42.194 --> 00:04:43.239 - My friend Stan Shaw in the back. 75 00:04:43.283 --> 00:04:44.719 Great guy. 76 00:04:51.073 --> 00:04:52.944 I didn't know anything. 77 00:04:52.988 --> 00:04:56.557 You know, I talked a good game like, yeah, I'm a good boxer. 78 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.386 I didn't know how to box anything, except maybe oranges. 79 00:05:00.387 --> 00:05:02.127 But I was willing to try. 80 00:05:05.957 --> 00:05:10.614 The character was not supposed to be a gifted fighter. 81 00:05:10.658 --> 00:05:12.921 He was gifted in other ways. 82 00:05:12.964 --> 00:05:15.967 He just could take anincredible amount of punishment, 83 00:05:16.011 --> 00:05:18.361 and he was fighting for an ideal. 84 00:05:18.405 --> 00:05:21.146 He had no allusions that he was a winner, 85 00:05:21.190 --> 00:05:23.323 he just wanted an opportunity. 86 00:05:28.980 --> 00:05:32.070 Then we came across this amazing guy, Carl Weathers, 87 00:05:32.941 --> 00:05:35.639 the greatest film boxer of all time. 88 00:05:37.467 --> 00:05:39.251 This man could move. 89 00:05:39.295 --> 00:05:42.864 Well, he was a world class athlete and a great actor, 90 00:05:42.907 --> 00:05:44.692 but God, could he move. 91 00:05:48.304 --> 00:05:50.915 This is us really beginning to figure it out. 92 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.614 There was a situation happening. 93 00:05:53.657 --> 00:05:56.268 They had hired a choreographer 94 00:05:56.312 --> 00:06:00.229 and the choreographer was used to doing old-fashioned films 95 00:06:00.272 --> 00:06:03.275 like you hit me, I hit you, you hit me, I hit you. 96 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:07.889 And that's what was normally done in a closeup of two guys 97 00:06:07.932 --> 00:06:10.282 just sort of, as we say, shoe-shining. 98 00:06:10.326 --> 00:06:12.502 One-two, one-two, one-two, one-two. 99 00:06:12.546 --> 00:06:15.418 And I thought you know, let's try to do something different. 100 00:06:15.462 --> 00:06:17.333 Oh, look who just popped up. 101 00:06:17.377 --> 00:06:18.856 My brother. 102 00:06:18.900 --> 00:06:21.076 He was a great singer, is a great singer, 103 00:06:21.119 --> 00:06:24.209 and I thought well,since I can't affordanyone else, 104 00:06:24.253 --> 00:06:25.297 I'll use him. 105 00:06:30.912 --> 00:06:33.088 Now here's him in the ring, 106 00:06:33.131 --> 00:06:35.699 really showing his love and appreciation for the job. 107 00:06:35.743 --> 00:06:39.007 Appreciate it, like start tackling me, knocking me down. 108 00:06:39.050 --> 00:06:40.661 Of course I'm trying to make him feel good here 109 00:06:40.704 --> 00:06:42.358 by getting a concussion. 110 00:06:47.407 --> 00:06:50.453 Back to Carl, he's improving a great deal. 111 00:06:50.497 --> 00:06:52.412 And I said to the stunt coordinator, 112 00:06:52.455 --> 00:06:53.891 I said, "Why doesn't Carl come out 113 00:06:53.935 --> 00:06:55.327 "and hit me like four jabs on the right? 114 00:06:55.371 --> 00:06:56.981 He goes, "That isn't the way it is." 115 00:06:57.025 --> 00:06:58.766 I said, "Well how about three jabs on the right?" 116 00:06:58.809 --> 00:07:00.724 He goes, "No, just follow my thing." 117 00:07:00.768 --> 00:07:03.945 I said, "Well, I wanna see something different." 118 00:07:03.988 --> 00:07:05.163 He goes, "Okay. 119 00:07:05.207 --> 00:07:06.338 "I quit." 120 00:07:06.382 --> 00:07:08.645 So he left, and I was stuck, 121 00:07:08.689 --> 00:07:12.736 and Irwin looked at me like hey, who are you to... 122 00:07:12.780 --> 00:07:14.869 Well this is the guy actually right before he left. 123 00:07:14.912 --> 00:07:17.654 His name was I think Stackler or something like that. 124 00:07:17.698 --> 00:07:19.482 Nice guy, but he had his 125 00:07:19.526 --> 00:07:21.397 old-fashioned way of doing something, 126 00:07:21.441 --> 00:07:25.401 and I wanted it to look as close to real as possible, 127 00:07:25.445 --> 00:07:27.359 and usually boxing films, 128 00:07:27.403 --> 00:07:31.581 the actors really were not in any kind of great shape 129 00:07:31.625 --> 00:07:33.627 and they didn't work any kind of choreography, 130 00:07:33.670 --> 00:07:36.325 it was sort of done on the fly. 131 00:07:36.368 --> 00:07:37.892 You hit me, I hit you, 132 00:07:37.935 --> 00:07:39.546 and no one was ever in really excellent shape 133 00:07:39.589 --> 00:07:42.070 so we started writing it up. 134 00:07:42.113 --> 00:07:45.116 The director said hey, why don't you write it out? 135 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.989 And I thought okay, you mean like a dance? 136 00:07:48.032 --> 00:07:49.425 Absolutely like a dance. 137 00:07:51.732 --> 00:07:53.821 Then we hired Jimmy Nickerson 138 00:07:53.864 --> 00:07:56.563 and he got in some semi-pros here 139 00:07:56.606 --> 00:07:59.566 who blocked out the actual real boxing 140 00:07:59.609 --> 00:08:01.263 and I would study it and go hmm, 141 00:08:01.306 --> 00:08:03.570 that's believable, that's believable. 142 00:08:04.658 --> 00:08:06.181 And then I started to borrow things 143 00:08:06.224 --> 00:08:08.313 from the world's greatest fights 144 00:08:08.357 --> 00:08:12.143 and condense them into moments in our film. 145 00:08:12.187 --> 00:08:14.319 So everything you've ever seen in Rocky 146 00:08:14.363 --> 00:08:15.799 has actually happened before. 147 00:08:15.843 --> 00:08:17.801 In the back there's famous Gene LeBell, 148 00:08:17.845 --> 00:08:20.978 world famous stuntman and Judo champion. 149 00:08:24.591 --> 00:08:26.506 This is all practice footage, 150 00:08:26.549 --> 00:08:28.203 and he's working on Jimmy Nickerson 151 00:08:28.246 --> 00:08:31.032 who insists on him actually hitting him a lot, 152 00:08:31.075 --> 00:08:33.556 which I don't know what was going through Jimmy's head. 153 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:35.253 He actually did get knocked out. 154 00:08:36.516 --> 00:08:39.301 There's Gene LeBell practicing. 155 00:08:39.344 --> 00:08:41.390 He's overacting as his 156 00:08:41.433 --> 00:08:43.261 as a referee. 157 00:08:44.262 --> 00:08:46.003 I never saw a referee get into a full squat, 158 00:08:46.047 --> 00:08:46.874 but why not? 159 00:08:51.182 --> 00:08:54.011 This is footage that was never seen in the movie. 160 00:08:54.055 --> 00:08:55.665 It was supposed to be in the movie. 161 00:08:55.709 --> 00:08:59.800 Rocky is watching Apollo knock all these people out. 162 00:08:59.843 --> 00:09:02.106 Mickey is going, "You don't have a chance," basically. 163 00:09:02.150 --> 00:09:04.848 This is a real fighter named Sonny Shields, 164 00:09:04.892 --> 00:09:08.373 father of the world class fighter named Randy Shields. 165 00:09:08.417 --> 00:09:10.462 He thought Carl was just an actor, 166 00:09:10.506 --> 00:09:14.336 I said he's a powerful man, and he blasted him, 167 00:09:14.379 --> 00:09:17.339 and eventually knocked him down again, for real. 168 00:09:21.343 --> 00:09:24.346 We never used this footage, which is unfortunate. 169 00:09:24.389 --> 00:09:26.043 It was a work in progress. 170 00:09:26.087 --> 00:09:30.308 So in between setups, I would constantly be re-writing 171 00:09:30.352 --> 00:09:32.920 and re-writing 172 00:09:32.963 --> 00:09:35.792 and trying to make this thing work 173 00:09:35.836 --> 00:09:38.621 for the budget that we had, which was nothing. 174 00:09:38.665 --> 00:09:41.015 And our locations were pretty, 175 00:09:41.058 --> 00:09:42.756 you know, pretty sparse. 176 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:46.455 But you know, I think that worked out for the best. 177 00:09:51.286 --> 00:09:53.375 I hadn't figured out Rocky's color combination, 178 00:09:53.418 --> 00:09:58.336 so this is just us practicing basically choreography 179 00:09:58.380 --> 00:10:00.469 and makeup tests. 180 00:10:00.512 --> 00:10:02.819 And you can see like the ropes hanging on the ground. 181 00:10:02.863 --> 00:10:04.342 This was again, just for us, 182 00:10:04.386 --> 00:10:06.823 too much smoke or too much makeup, 183 00:10:06.867 --> 00:10:07.955 we were trying to figure out. 184 00:10:07.998 --> 00:10:09.652 Like this. 185 00:10:09.696 --> 00:10:11.349 Hey, anybody want a hamburger? 186 00:10:11.393 --> 00:10:12.263 How you doin'? 187 00:10:13.656 --> 00:10:15.658 Like, little bit of overacting 188 00:10:15.702 --> 00:10:18.008 putting the cart in front of the horse here. 189 00:10:22.839 --> 00:10:25.189 I think Carl again, this was mostly a makeup test. 190 00:10:25.233 --> 00:10:26.582 This place was freezing by the way, 191 00:10:26.626 --> 00:10:28.802 it was in the dead of winter, so. 192 00:10:30.891 --> 00:10:35.069 It was not conducive to moving around a lot. 193 00:10:35.112 --> 00:10:37.375 But again, we did what we could 194 00:10:37.419 --> 00:10:39.856 because we were borrowing the Olympic Auditorium. 195 00:10:43.294 --> 00:10:45.819 And we're seeing how close we could get with the punches. 196 00:10:45.862 --> 00:10:48.038 Those are actual eight ounce gloves 197 00:10:48.082 --> 00:10:50.084 that are not doctored up, 198 00:10:50.127 --> 00:10:52.913 and when you get hit with them, it's... 199 00:10:54.218 --> 00:10:58.222 My eye is closed, your depth perception 200 00:10:58.266 --> 00:10:59.833 is way off. 201 00:10:59.876 --> 00:11:03.358 So this is what these rehearsals helped with, 202 00:11:03.401 --> 00:11:05.665 figuring out what works and what doesn't work. 203 00:11:10.278 --> 00:11:11.671 Oh there's my father. 204 00:11:11.714 --> 00:11:14.891 We're sitting around before the film 205 00:11:14.935 --> 00:11:19.113 kind of figuring out thelogistics with the set designer 206 00:11:19.156 --> 00:11:21.942 and it was great to be part of all of this. 207 00:11:21.985 --> 00:11:24.466 I didn't know what I was doing, but it sounded good 208 00:11:24.509 --> 00:11:25.989 and it looked good. 209 00:11:26.033 --> 00:11:28.992 And we were pretty passionate about it. 210 00:11:29.036 --> 00:11:30.515 But really there's something good 211 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:32.126 about not knowing everything, 212 00:11:32.169 --> 00:11:35.303 you're just throwing yourself headlong into it. 213 00:11:35.346 --> 00:11:38.262 Made my father the bell ringer, that was interesting. 214 00:11:38.306 --> 00:11:40.395 He'd always ring the bell about 20 seconds late 215 00:11:40.438 --> 00:11:42.223 and I would take a beating. 216 00:11:42.266 --> 00:11:44.921 And I kept going, is this kind of Freudian by any chance? 217 00:11:46.575 --> 00:11:49.709 That's me wearing my incredibly expensive York shirt. 218 00:11:51.058 --> 00:11:53.451 Kind of hung up on the tank tops at the time, 219 00:11:53.495 --> 00:11:54.322 I don't know why. 220 00:12:02.504 --> 00:12:04.898 Storyboards are something I'd never seen before. 221 00:12:04.941 --> 00:12:06.682 It was very interesting. 222 00:12:06.726 --> 00:12:09.424 It was laid out what we were supposed to do. 223 00:12:09.467 --> 00:12:12.035 This whole kind of ritual of twomen 224 00:12:12.079 --> 00:12:13.863 getting ready to face one another, 225 00:12:13.907 --> 00:12:16.344 Rocky being incredibly inferior 226 00:12:16.387 --> 00:12:20.478 and Carl, or Apollo Creed, just taking it as another day 227 00:12:21.871 --> 00:12:25.048 in the life of a champion, no big deal. 228 00:12:25.092 --> 00:12:27.137 But all these maneuvers here like the Vick's 229 00:12:27.181 --> 00:12:29.183 and the greasing up, this is pretty much 230 00:12:29.226 --> 00:12:32.316 what we were taught by authentictrainers. 231 00:12:34.057 --> 00:12:36.668 Rocky knows he's basically going to get slaughtered 232 00:12:36.712 --> 00:12:39.889 so he's just praying he doesn't get hurt too much. 233 00:12:39.933 --> 00:12:42.326 And Carl, this is the first time we actually see him 234 00:12:42.370 --> 00:12:45.025 get serious in the film as Apollo Creed. 235 00:12:48.680 --> 00:12:50.030 You won't believe this camera. 236 00:12:50.073 --> 00:12:51.814 This is so gigantic. 237 00:12:53.598 --> 00:12:56.863 Everything we had was, I don't know, 238 00:12:56.906 --> 00:12:58.821 just scraping things together. 239 00:12:58.865 --> 00:13:02.738 This gigantic camera, that we had to lash to the car. 240 00:13:02.782 --> 00:13:04.392 They don't even exist anymore. 241 00:13:11.268 --> 00:13:13.140 This fella here, his name was Jimmy Gambina, 242 00:13:13.183 --> 00:13:15.751 he was also a trainer, his father's a trainer, 243 00:13:15.795 --> 00:13:17.318 and I thought I'd put him in a movie 244 00:13:17.361 --> 00:13:19.537 'cause he was really some kind of character. 245 00:13:19.581 --> 00:13:21.017 And it worked out. 246 00:13:21.061 --> 00:13:22.192 - Don't you think you oughta take a rest? 247 00:13:22.236 --> 00:13:23.498 - No, my back is hurt. 248 00:13:23.541 --> 00:13:24.368 - Your back? 249 00:13:24.412 --> 00:13:25.108 - My back is hurt. 250 00:13:25.152 --> 00:13:26.327 You deaf? 251 00:13:26.370 --> 00:13:27.284 - No, I'm short. 252 00:13:30.897 --> 00:13:32.594 - As I was getting prepared again, 253 00:13:32.637 --> 00:13:35.205 me being very mature between takes, 254 00:13:36.206 --> 00:13:37.729 this is how I prepare for a movie, 255 00:13:37.773 --> 00:13:39.993 by chasing Adrian with a meat cleaver. 256 00:13:40.036 --> 00:13:43.866 You think it's a little odd perhaps. 257 00:13:43.910 --> 00:13:45.868 We tried to keep it loose. 258 00:13:45.912 --> 00:13:49.176 It was a lot of fun in a way, and I tend to 259 00:13:49.219 --> 00:13:54.659 not want to walk around all moody, and I just try to 260 00:13:54.703 --> 00:13:56.748 keep it relaxed 'cause if you'rerelaxed, 261 00:13:56.792 --> 00:13:58.663 the rest of the crew is relaxed. 262 00:13:58.707 --> 00:14:00.491 And then you turn it on when youhave to, 263 00:14:00.535 --> 00:14:03.973 so you can see me with Joe Spinell who played Mr. Gazzo 264 00:14:04.017 --> 00:14:06.671 and John Avildsen, makeup man Mike Westmore, 265 00:14:06.715 --> 00:14:08.673 and we're just having a good time. 266 00:14:11.024 --> 00:14:13.069 That hat was a real bone of contention. 267 00:14:13.113 --> 00:14:15.115 Nobody wanted me to wear the hat. 268 00:14:15.158 --> 00:14:17.073 They wanted me to just be, you know, bareheaded. 269 00:14:17.117 --> 00:14:18.770 I go, 270 00:14:18.814 --> 00:14:20.468 So there was a store there and I bought the hat, 271 00:14:20.511 --> 00:14:22.035 there's the director's children, 272 00:14:22.078 --> 00:14:24.080 bought that hat for like $3 273 00:14:24.124 --> 00:14:26.126 and I wanna wear the hat. 274 00:14:26.169 --> 00:14:27.736 And the producer goes, "You can't wear this hat." 275 00:14:27.779 --> 00:14:28.606 and I go, "Why?" 276 00:14:28.650 --> 00:14:30.173 He says, "Because, 277 00:14:30.217 --> 00:14:32.132 "Gene Hackman wore it in French Connection." 278 00:14:32.175 --> 00:14:34.003 I says, "So, that's the end of hats? 279 00:14:34.047 --> 00:14:35.700 "So, hats are banned?" 280 00:14:35.744 --> 00:14:38.051 I said, "It kind of tops off the character." 281 00:14:38.094 --> 00:14:41.663 And I just went ahead and used the hat. 282 00:14:41.706 --> 00:14:43.230 I'd never seen a hat like it, 283 00:14:43.273 --> 00:14:45.406 it was like this cheap, felt, cardboard hat, 284 00:14:45.449 --> 00:14:48.017 but it just worked perfectly, 285 00:14:48.061 --> 00:14:50.977 and I think made a great impression on the character. 286 00:14:51.020 --> 00:14:54.719 I think it just set the whole thing like a suit of armor. 287 00:14:54.763 --> 00:14:58.680 It was a costume that he was sort of hiding behind. 288 00:14:58.723 --> 00:15:00.595 And then when you see him put on the glasses 289 00:15:00.638 --> 00:15:03.511 like they should realize, he's not this real tough specimen, 290 00:15:03.554 --> 00:15:06.427 he's kind of nerdy in a way. 291 00:15:10.257 --> 00:15:14.783 Oh yeah, this is us in between takes, just hanging out. 292 00:15:17.003 --> 00:15:18.874 This is a scene that was amazing. 293 00:15:18.918 --> 00:15:20.745 I wrote it for 300 extras. 294 00:15:21.703 --> 00:15:24.575 And Adrian was supposed to be taken out on the ice 295 00:15:24.619 --> 00:15:27.274 by this incredible ice skater and he's showing off 296 00:15:27.317 --> 00:15:28.971 and I'm sort of humiliated 297 00:15:29.015 --> 00:15:33.367 and then I get into sort of a beef with the fella. 298 00:15:33.410 --> 00:15:35.064 I show up on the set, they said, 299 00:15:35.108 --> 00:15:37.327 "Well, we've had to cut the extras back a little bit." 300 00:15:37.371 --> 00:15:38.241 I go, "To what?" 301 00:15:38.285 --> 00:15:39.634 He goes, "To none." 302 00:15:39.677 --> 00:15:40.765 You're kidding me! 303 00:15:40.809 --> 00:15:42.942 How about a heads up? 304 00:15:42.985 --> 00:15:46.206 So I went back and I started re-writing immediately 305 00:15:46.249 --> 00:15:50.514 and, well, the proof is in the pudding. 306 00:15:50.558 --> 00:15:53.039 It became just the two of us on the ice 307 00:15:53.082 --> 00:15:57.739 and since I can't ice skate, Rocky runs alongside of her. 308 00:15:57.782 --> 00:15:59.828 That's George Memmoli who was a great character, 309 00:15:59.871 --> 00:16:01.482 actor and a friend, 310 00:16:01.525 --> 00:16:04.398 and it turned out to be a thousand times better 311 00:16:04.441 --> 00:16:07.096 if there had been a big, big crowd here. 312 00:16:07.140 --> 00:16:11.361 So, again, taking the negative and making it a positive. 313 00:16:11.405 --> 00:16:13.407 Got very lucky on that day. 314 00:16:13.450 --> 00:16:17.150 But that scene sort of set the tone for Rocky's first date. 315 00:16:17.193 --> 00:16:20.370 He wasn't used to you know, being very... 316 00:16:20.414 --> 00:16:22.372 Well we'll just say sophisticated, 317 00:16:22.416 --> 00:16:26.507 but I think that was part of his charm was his honesty. 318 00:16:26.550 --> 00:16:28.161 No it's okay, it's okay. 319 00:16:28.204 --> 00:16:29.901 Hey listen, are you closed to the general public, 320 00:16:29.945 --> 00:16:31.860 or are you just closed toeverybody, you know what I mean? 321 00:16:33.818 --> 00:16:36.604 You can see here, we really struggling. 322 00:16:36.647 --> 00:16:41.000 She was not exactly you know, Ice Capades either. 323 00:16:41.043 --> 00:16:42.479 We're just struggling out there which I thought 324 00:16:42.523 --> 00:16:45.265 kind of reflected on who they were, too. 325 00:16:45.308 --> 00:16:50.313 It's like, neither one of them is very graceful in life. 326 00:16:50.357 --> 00:16:54.230 But together, they're a perfect fit, they really really are. 327 00:16:55.231 --> 00:16:57.494 I almost broke my neck on this about 10 times. 328 00:16:57.538 --> 00:16:59.148 This turned out to be very, verygood. 329 00:16:59.192 --> 00:17:01.803 You can see where John's rehearsals 330 00:17:01.846 --> 00:17:04.893 were absolutely duplicated in reality, 331 00:17:04.936 --> 00:17:06.199 so it was a perfect thing. 332 00:17:07.635 --> 00:17:10.029 I tell you, things get pretty rough in the rink. 333 00:17:13.423 --> 00:17:17.253 Again, this is the makeup with Mike Westmore 334 00:17:17.297 --> 00:17:18.907 and we'd be running lines here. 335 00:17:18.950 --> 00:17:21.518 So we've hit the ground running. 336 00:17:21.562 --> 00:17:23.912 I like to learn a lot of dialogue 337 00:17:23.955 --> 00:17:26.567 a long time before the production 338 00:17:26.610 --> 00:17:30.005 so you can let it go and ad lib 339 00:17:30.049 --> 00:17:31.876 and then come back to the script. 340 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.793 And Burgess, who's a classicallytrained actor and I wasn't, 341 00:17:35.837 --> 00:17:38.013 was totally on board with that. 342 00:17:38.057 --> 00:17:40.363 And he was just fantastic. 343 00:17:40.407 --> 00:17:43.192 He's really a consummate performer. 344 00:17:43.236 --> 00:17:44.802 I didn't realize it at the time 345 00:17:44.846 --> 00:17:46.326 'cause I had never worked with anyone that good, 346 00:17:46.369 --> 00:17:49.851 but now, as I reflect on it, one of the greatest. 347 00:17:52.549 --> 00:17:55.335 This was an actual apartment, believe it or not, 348 00:17:55.378 --> 00:17:59.165 and I thought we should add some things that are a bit odd, 349 00:17:59.208 --> 00:18:02.559 like a mattress stuck to the wall full of bayonets. 350 00:18:02.603 --> 00:18:05.345 Don't explain it, just, that's the way he lives. 351 00:18:05.388 --> 00:18:07.869 And a bowl full of turtles and so on. 352 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:23.754 We couldn't afford a hose to wet down the street, 353 00:18:23.798 --> 00:18:25.843 so we'd do it by buckets. 354 00:18:28.150 --> 00:18:31.284 Rocky solidifies his relationship with Mickey 355 00:18:31.327 --> 00:18:34.678 after a tempestuous brawl a few moments earlier 356 00:18:34.722 --> 00:18:37.942 where he just unloaded on Mickey about being ignored. 357 00:18:37.986 --> 00:18:39.379 But that's what made the character, 358 00:18:39.422 --> 00:18:41.032 he's just always forgiving. 359 00:18:42.469 --> 00:18:44.949 This is my friend Gene Kirkwood,he was very, very important 360 00:18:44.993 --> 00:18:46.864 in having the film actually made. 361 00:18:46.908 --> 00:18:49.128 And Burt Young, who was fantastic. 362 00:18:54.916 --> 00:18:59.094 We start in Philadelphia and we end up here, this is L.A., 363 00:18:59.138 --> 00:19:02.402 running along the side of the meat packing place. 364 00:19:02.445 --> 00:19:07.233 I don't know exactly why I wrote in a slider house, 365 00:19:07.276 --> 00:19:10.671 but it was just an idea. 366 00:19:10.714 --> 00:19:14.544 Like boxers are considered meat,you know, 367 00:19:14.588 --> 00:19:17.330 we don't think of them as you know, 368 00:19:17.373 --> 00:19:19.810 regular human beings, but they are. 369 00:19:19.854 --> 00:19:21.203 They have a lot of heart and soul, 370 00:19:21.247 --> 00:19:23.945 they're not just flesh to be hitupon. 371 00:19:23.988 --> 00:19:27.296 And so that was somewhat a symbolic move, 372 00:19:27.340 --> 00:19:29.777 a little heavy-handed but I think it worked. 373 00:19:34.564 --> 00:19:38.046 And here we are outside. 374 00:19:38.089 --> 00:19:41.919 Yeah, with my dog Butkus which was actually my dog 375 00:19:41.963 --> 00:19:45.271 and I thought Rocky and the dog looked very much alike, 376 00:19:45.314 --> 00:19:47.229 so I wanted him in the movie. 377 00:19:47.273 --> 00:19:49.710 And I thought it again added a little bit of character 378 00:19:49.753 --> 00:19:52.582 to who Rocky was, and it was a gift from Adrian. 379 00:19:55.498 --> 00:19:58.109 This is a scene that was made up on the spot. 380 00:19:58.153 --> 00:19:59.763 What's that, Butkus, huh? 381 00:19:59.807 --> 00:20:00.895 Whose truck is this? 382 00:20:00.938 --> 00:20:02.244 Come on. 383 00:20:02.288 --> 00:20:03.985 I was supposed to just be in there. 384 00:20:04.028 --> 00:20:06.205 I thought, you know, it'd be great if he just shows up 385 00:20:06.248 --> 00:20:08.816 and there's Burt saying, "Hey, hope you don't mind, 386 00:20:08.859 --> 00:20:11.732 "I called your television network, 387 00:20:11.775 --> 00:20:14.735 "and I'm basically here to embarrass you." 388 00:20:14.778 --> 00:20:16.737 And of course, Rocky takes it instride 389 00:20:16.780 --> 00:20:19.740 and goes along with it 'cause he's that kind of a guy. 390 00:20:25.659 --> 00:20:26.747 This place was so magical. 391 00:20:26.790 --> 00:20:28.662 I mean just these streets, 392 00:20:28.705 --> 00:20:31.230 I go back there every now and then. 393 00:20:31.273 --> 00:20:32.840 It's amazing. 394 00:20:32.883 --> 00:20:35.364 They're so small, so narrow, so claustrophobic, 395 00:20:35.408 --> 00:20:38.541 the terrain is just so graphically interesting. 396 00:20:38.585 --> 00:20:39.412 Yo. 397 00:20:40.804 --> 00:20:42.371 - Yo. 398 00:20:42.415 --> 00:20:44.112 - Yo, you look great. 399 00:20:44.155 --> 00:20:47.028 And then, right here, this is where she just exploded. 400 00:20:47.071 --> 00:20:49.770 I mean, she became Cinderella. 401 00:20:49.813 --> 00:20:51.598 This is what he saw. 402 00:20:51.641 --> 00:20:53.774 When he's here to pesh up, everyone else saw this homely, 403 00:20:53.817 --> 00:20:55.558 very, very shy woman. 404 00:20:55.602 --> 00:20:59.040 He saw really a beautiful person, inside and out. 405 00:20:59.083 --> 00:21:01.869 And she really sold it in that moment. 406 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:05.786 This is the game changer. 407 00:21:07.266 --> 00:21:09.006 This man's name is Garrett Brown, he's an inventor, 408 00:21:09.050 --> 00:21:12.053 he lives in Philadelphia and just out of luck, 409 00:21:12.096 --> 00:21:14.751 he goes, "I got this camera called the Steadicam." 410 00:21:14.795 --> 00:21:17.319 I go, "Excuse me?" It kinda looks like a vacuum cleaner. 411 00:21:17.363 --> 00:21:20.017 But no, this thing was amazing. 412 00:21:20.061 --> 00:21:24.326 You could run as fast as you could, be on a bouncy truck, 413 00:21:24.370 --> 00:21:27.547 yet the picture is incredibly level. 414 00:21:27.590 --> 00:21:30.506 And here we are in this very, very inexpensive film 415 00:21:30.550 --> 00:21:33.509 using a revolutionary camera, which really, 416 00:21:33.553 --> 00:21:35.685 basically revolutionized the business 417 00:21:35.729 --> 00:21:38.384 and is used probably on every movie there is 418 00:21:38.427 --> 00:21:39.820 around the world. 419 00:21:39.863 --> 00:21:40.734 Extraordinary. 420 00:21:46.348 --> 00:21:48.263 Oh yeah, fight night. 421 00:21:49.395 --> 00:21:51.745 Carl, we had this idea of him being Uncle Sam. 422 00:21:51.788 --> 00:21:53.964 I thought, we're gonna push the envelope here. 423 00:21:54.008 --> 00:21:56.271 This probably was so much out of our budget 424 00:21:56.315 --> 00:21:57.664 we could barely afford it. 425 00:21:57.707 --> 00:21:59.056 The robe they made for me 426 00:21:59.100 --> 00:22:00.971 was for a guy who was six foot five 427 00:22:01.015 --> 00:22:03.017 but again, we work it into the movie. 428 00:22:03.060 --> 00:22:04.932 "Don't you think this robe is kind of baggy?" 429 00:22:04.975 --> 00:22:07.151 "Eh it looks great, don't worry about it." 430 00:22:12.287 --> 00:22:13.723 We don't have many extras, 431 00:22:13.767 --> 00:22:15.769 so the camera angles are very, very important 432 00:22:15.812 --> 00:22:17.510 to be shooting up 433 00:22:17.553 --> 00:22:19.163 and these little lights which you see in the background 434 00:22:19.207 --> 00:22:21.949 which add depth of field, these Christmas lights, 435 00:22:21.992 --> 00:22:23.951 they're very effective. 436 00:22:23.994 --> 00:22:28.956 And out here, we're starting out working on the choreography 437 00:22:28.999 --> 00:22:32.394 that eventually will be almost punch for punch 438 00:22:32.438 --> 00:22:36.355 exactly what happens in the final product. 439 00:22:36.398 --> 00:22:39.053 So it's interesting to see how, bam bam. 440 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:43.710 It worked! 441 00:22:43.753 --> 00:22:45.189 I mean, it was shocking. 442 00:22:45.233 --> 00:22:47.757 I enjoy seeing this here. 443 00:22:47.801 --> 00:22:49.237 Of course, you never know when you get out there. 444 00:22:49.280 --> 00:22:51.892 It could be the biggest waste oftime 445 00:22:51.935 --> 00:22:54.024 and you go oh, it looks really phony, 446 00:22:54.068 --> 00:22:57.419 but we're able to take it from the gym 447 00:22:58.681 --> 00:23:00.509 where you didn't know, I mean, 448 00:23:00.553 --> 00:23:02.859 you have to understand, we didn't know what we were doing. 449 00:23:02.903 --> 00:23:05.688 No one ever rehearsed for months and months and months 450 00:23:05.732 --> 00:23:07.255 and months and months. 451 00:23:07.298 --> 00:23:09.866 And boxing films weren't very, very popular, 452 00:23:09.910 --> 00:23:12.652 so I thought, are we just really wasting our time? 453 00:23:12.695 --> 00:23:15.263 Or is this actually going to translate into something? 454 00:23:15.306 --> 00:23:17.396 So every day you go in there, 455 00:23:17.439 --> 00:23:20.660 I hope this is just not gonna be an embarrassment. 456 00:23:20.703 --> 00:23:23.793 From that little gym, it worked in the big picture. 457 00:23:23.837 --> 00:23:25.665 Punch for punch. 458 00:23:25.708 --> 00:23:29.190 And we were able to do this time and time and time again, 459 00:23:30.452 --> 00:23:33.063 which is why I always advocate for a long, long, 460 00:23:33.107 --> 00:23:36.153 long rehearsal for boxing films. 461 00:23:36.197 --> 00:23:38.678 And most people don't do it. 462 00:23:38.721 --> 00:23:40.549 It's well worth the effort. 463 00:23:45.075 --> 00:23:45.946 - He can't even get his gloves up 464 00:23:45.989 --> 00:23:47.513 to protect himself. 465 00:23:47.556 --> 00:23:49.340 - Here's Carl just laying it on me. 466 00:23:49.384 --> 00:23:50.211 Oh! 467 00:23:50.254 --> 00:23:51.647 Beautiful. 468 00:23:51.691 --> 00:23:54.433 His timing is amazing, it reallyis. 469 00:23:54.476 --> 00:23:56.086 The canvas was interesting. 470 00:23:56.130 --> 00:23:58.611 We designed these stars which was reminiscent 471 00:23:58.654 --> 00:24:00.134 of Apollo Creed's trunks. 472 00:24:19.545 --> 00:24:23.157 The acting started six months earlier in the gym, 473 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:25.855 and you're just hoping it works there. 474 00:24:29.555 --> 00:24:31.644 We've been building up to this, right here. 475 00:24:31.687 --> 00:24:33.384 This is the harder part. 476 00:24:33.428 --> 00:24:36.736 How do you keep the audience engaged with the drama 477 00:24:36.779 --> 00:24:38.302 that these men are going through, 478 00:24:38.346 --> 00:24:41.044 and the trauma what they're going through. 479 00:24:48.791 --> 00:24:52.229 This I believe is after the show. 480 00:24:52.273 --> 00:24:54.057 We're all pretty much wrapped up 481 00:24:54.101 --> 00:24:56.146 and having a little bit of barbecue 482 00:24:56.190 --> 00:24:59.106 with John and his children. 483 00:25:01.282 --> 00:25:03.284 In my Howdy Doody shirt. 484 00:25:05.765 --> 00:25:07.941 This is uh, I guess, yeah, 485 00:25:07.984 --> 00:25:10.465 it has to be probably while we're editing 486 00:25:10.509 --> 00:25:11.945 because my hair is longer in this part. 487 00:25:11.988 --> 00:25:13.163 This is great. 488 00:25:18.299 --> 00:25:20.780 We tried to keep this as free tothe core, 489 00:25:20.823 --> 00:25:21.955 this kind of family group. 490 00:25:21.998 --> 00:25:24.479 Bill Conti, who I cannot express 491 00:25:24.523 --> 00:25:26.176 how important he was to this movie. 492 00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:28.788 His music just took it to another level. 493 00:25:28.831 --> 00:25:31.965 Yeah, classical music in an un-classical film. 494 00:25:32.008 --> 00:25:33.967 Very interesting dynamic. 495 00:25:34.968 --> 00:25:37.231 They wanted to put in rock music at one time 496 00:25:37.274 --> 00:25:39.929 and was talking about even Jimi Hendrix 497 00:25:39.973 --> 00:25:43.498 and bringing in Bill, he figured it all out. 498 00:25:54.074 --> 00:25:55.815 There's John's children 499 00:25:55.858 --> 00:25:56.685 Hey Rufus. 500 00:26:01.647 --> 00:26:04.084 I believe we opened up in maybe two theaters 501 00:26:04.127 --> 00:26:07.391 and this is the place where I was an usher 502 00:26:08.697 --> 00:26:10.351 several years earlier. 503 00:26:10.394 --> 00:26:12.179 Two doors away at the Baronette, 504 00:26:12.222 --> 00:26:14.616 and I would also work over there at Cinema 2. 505 00:26:16.096 --> 00:26:18.402 And now I'm back with a film. 506 00:26:18.446 --> 00:26:21.667 That was my beloved manager JaneOliver. 507 00:26:21.710 --> 00:26:22.755 She was great. 508 00:26:22.798 --> 00:26:24.670 And then John with his son. 509 00:26:24.713 --> 00:26:28.891 And the irony of being in this movie theater 510 00:26:28.935 --> 00:26:30.937 where I used to go back and forth with my brother 511 00:26:30.980 --> 00:26:32.721 there all the time 512 00:26:32.765 --> 00:26:35.419 and he was singing on the corner and I'm carrying tickets 513 00:26:35.463 --> 00:26:39.032 and now I'm in the theater, I'm on the marquis. 514 00:26:39.075 --> 00:26:40.555 How did this happen? 515 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:41.425 It's amazing. 516 00:26:42.905 --> 00:26:46.866 And this was in also on the West Coast, in Westwood. 517 00:26:48.737 --> 00:26:52.393 In one year, my life exploded for the better. 518 00:26:53.612 --> 00:26:55.483 So I tell people, you never know. 519 00:26:55.526 --> 00:27:00.314 You just never, never know if you're gonna hit the lottery. 520 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:02.142 You just gotta keep buying tickets, 521 00:27:02.185 --> 00:27:03.578 you gotta keep going for it. 522 00:27:04.971 --> 00:27:07.408 Yeah, I used to cut my own hair, I know, I know. 523 00:27:09.062 --> 00:27:10.672 Don't comment on it. 524 00:27:10.716 --> 00:27:12.805 I was too cheap to hire a barber at the time. 525 00:27:12.848 --> 00:27:14.110 I didn't know any better. 526 00:27:15.938 --> 00:27:18.201 Here on the lobby just greeting customers. 527 00:27:18.245 --> 00:27:21.422 I felt like hey, thank you for showing up. 528 00:27:21.465 --> 00:27:22.989 I didn't know how long it was going to last, 529 00:27:23.032 --> 00:27:25.774 I didn't know it was going to be successful. 530 00:27:26.993 --> 00:27:29.038 You're a very lucky person when you can find out 531 00:27:29.082 --> 00:27:31.345 the best friend you ever had is some character 532 00:27:31.388 --> 00:27:33.739 that just popped out of your mind, 533 00:27:33.782 --> 00:27:36.480 someone who was always there when things got rough 534 00:27:36.524 --> 00:27:38.352 and never quit on you. 535 00:27:38.395 --> 00:27:41.094 That's what I look at Rocky as, my best friend. 536 00:27:46.055 --> 00:27:50.103 - And the winner is, Rocky, 537 00:27:50.146 --> 00:27:53.410 Irwin Winkler and Robert Chartoff 538 00:27:53.454 --> 00:27:56.239 - To all the Rockys in the world, I love you.