1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,250 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 4 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,417 (RAIN PATTERING) 5 00:00:28,042 --> 00:00:30,834 DR. THOMAS BURTON: Some people call me a folklorist, 6 00:00:30,918 --> 00:00:32,876 sometimes a filmmaker. 7 00:00:32,959 --> 00:00:37,083 Some people call me a closet anthropologist. 8 00:00:37,751 --> 00:00:39,876 I'm a retired professor, 9 00:00:39,959 --> 00:00:44,751 but still a student of southern Appalachia, really. 10 00:00:45,834 --> 00:00:48,417 (CLICKING) 11 00:00:49,626 --> 00:00:54,000 DR. BURTON: The archives started back in the late '60s. 12 00:00:54,083 --> 00:00:56,417 A colleague and I studied folklore 13 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:57,792 and talked folklore, 14 00:00:57,876 --> 00:01:00,209 and we wanted to preserve it. 15 00:01:00,292 --> 00:01:03,709 So that's how the Archives of Appalachia 16 00:01:03,792 --> 00:01:05,250 was established. 17 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:11,918 I find that in collecting their life stories, 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,626 traditions, and beliefs, 19 00:01:13,709 --> 00:01:16,709 it's, uh, really one way of understanding 20 00:01:16,792 --> 00:01:18,375 our own history. 21 00:01:19,667 --> 00:01:23,083 This is oral history and folklore. 22 00:01:23,167 --> 00:01:24,667 Appalachian folklore. 23 00:01:27,876 --> 00:01:30,125 ♪ (QUIET MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 24 00:01:30,209 --> 00:01:35,000 With people that I've researched and recorded, 25 00:01:35,083 --> 00:01:38,626 it gives them a little bit of immortality. 26 00:01:38,709 --> 00:01:41,876 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 27 00:01:43,125 --> 00:01:46,500 -(CRICKETS CHIRPING) -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 28 00:01:49,417 --> 00:01:53,250 In one case, we made a documentary 29 00:01:53,334 --> 00:01:54,751 about mountain people 30 00:01:54,834 --> 00:01:58,751 and the tradition of handling serpents. 31 00:01:58,834 --> 00:02:01,459 PREACHER: Now, we have, uh, three rattlesnakes, 32 00:02:01,542 --> 00:02:02,667 our guests tonight. 33 00:02:02,751 --> 00:02:05,042 I know that according to what the scripture said 34 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:06,834 in Saint Mark 16, 35 00:02:06,918 --> 00:02:08,626 was that they shall take up serpents. 36 00:02:08,709 --> 00:02:11,709 Not many places left where you can obey God 37 00:02:11,792 --> 00:02:14,626 in the fullest and then without fear of reprisal. 38 00:02:14,709 --> 00:02:17,375 DR. BURTON: While we were filming the service, 39 00:02:17,459 --> 00:02:21,375 one of those church members was bitten. 40 00:02:21,459 --> 00:02:23,042 (INDISTINCT CLAMOR) 41 00:02:23,125 --> 00:02:27,500 What happened in that church had a profound effect on me. 42 00:02:27,584 --> 00:02:30,792 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 43 00:02:30,876 --> 00:02:32,417 PREACHER: In the name of Jesus! 44 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:40,709 (SOUND DISTORTING) 45 00:02:42,751 --> 00:02:44,792 (WOMAN SCREAMS) 46 00:02:44,876 --> 00:02:48,042 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 47 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:53,250 PREACHER: Lord, in Jesus's name... 48 00:02:54,167 --> 00:02:56,334 -The law is final. -(WOMAN CHEERS) 49 00:02:56,417 --> 00:02:57,334 PREACHER: Yes, God. 50 00:02:57,417 --> 00:02:59,667 (WOMAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) 51 00:02:59,751 --> 00:03:02,584 DR. BURTON: That night was my initiation 52 00:03:02,667 --> 00:03:04,083 into serpent handling. 53 00:03:05,459 --> 00:03:08,292 And of course, I didn't know that it would lead 54 00:03:08,375 --> 00:03:13,584 to over 40 years of studying Pentecostal serpent handlers. 55 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:16,209 But out of all of my experiences, 56 00:03:16,292 --> 00:03:21,667 there is one that stands out from all the rest. 57 00:03:21,751 --> 00:03:26,459 This story is a story of the Serpent and the Spirit. 58 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:30,709 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 59 00:03:42,292 --> 00:03:44,834 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 60 00:03:57,834 --> 00:04:00,959 ♪ (TENSE VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 61 00:04:43,876 --> 00:04:45,459 DAVID KENNAMER: My name is David Kennamer, 62 00:04:45,542 --> 00:04:46,876 born and raised here in Scottsboro. 63 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:48,167 I'm a paramedic. 64 00:04:48,250 --> 00:04:51,250 And, uh, this is my partner, Bobby, who is an EMT. 65 00:04:51,334 --> 00:04:53,834 He was my driver that night. 66 00:04:53,918 --> 00:04:57,667 Well, working on the ambulance, you eat when you can. 67 00:04:57,751 --> 00:05:00,292 We was here at the Piggly Wiggly when they gave us the call 68 00:05:00,375 --> 00:05:01,500 and that's when we said, 69 00:05:01,584 --> 00:05:03,667 "Well, we're not gonna get to eat anytime soon." 70 00:05:03,751 --> 00:05:04,876 (LAUGHS) 71 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:07,459 -(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER) -(ENGINE STARTS) 72 00:05:09,792 --> 00:05:13,042 DAVID: We got the call, uh, to head out to Barbee Lane 73 00:05:13,125 --> 00:05:14,667 to a snake bite victim. 74 00:05:14,751 --> 00:05:16,959 (SIREN WAILING) 75 00:05:17,751 --> 00:05:20,417 (RADIO CHATTER) 76 00:05:22,918 --> 00:05:25,334 DAVID: At the time, we didn't know any more about it 77 00:05:25,417 --> 00:05:27,959 than a possible snake bite. 78 00:05:28,042 --> 00:05:29,959 BOBBY CARSON: We have gotten calls like this before, 79 00:05:30,042 --> 00:05:32,709 but when you get there, there's nothing to it. 80 00:05:33,584 --> 00:05:36,000 (SIREN WAILING) 81 00:05:41,209 --> 00:05:43,334 DAVID: And as we got closer, uh, 82 00:05:43,417 --> 00:05:46,751 they told us to, uh, go in Code One, 83 00:05:46,834 --> 00:05:48,959 which is with the lights and sirens off. 84 00:05:49,542 --> 00:05:50,626 (SIREN STOPS) 85 00:05:53,250 --> 00:05:55,751 They didn't know exactly why, but if the patient 86 00:05:55,834 --> 00:05:58,042 or whoever's calling you tell you this, 87 00:05:58,125 --> 00:06:00,709 you need to listen to them. There's a reason for this. 88 00:06:02,876 --> 00:06:05,042 And it was dark. There's no streetlights. 89 00:06:05,125 --> 00:06:06,250 BOBBY: Nope. 90 00:06:06,334 --> 00:06:09,167 DAVID: So the only lights we had were what was on us. 91 00:06:09,250 --> 00:06:11,542 BOBBY: I don't like snakes. 92 00:06:11,626 --> 00:06:13,167 You don't come to me with a snake. 93 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:15,042 That'd be like pointing a gun at me. 94 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:16,334 (DAVID LAUGHS) 95 00:06:18,209 --> 00:06:20,751 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 96 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:35,292 DAVID: This lady was walking towards us. 97 00:06:35,375 --> 00:06:36,959 (TIRES SCREECH) 98 00:06:37,042 --> 00:06:39,125 (DOGS BARKING) 99 00:06:39,209 --> 00:06:42,500 (OWL HOOTING) 100 00:06:51,792 --> 00:06:54,959 ♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 101 00:06:59,918 --> 00:07:02,334 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 102 00:07:11,167 --> 00:07:12,709 It's a critical situation. 103 00:07:12,792 --> 00:07:15,167 (SIREN WAILING) 104 00:07:15,250 --> 00:07:17,709 It was black. The skin was starting to die. 105 00:07:17,792 --> 00:07:19,167 That's when I got real concerned 106 00:07:19,250 --> 00:07:20,918 because that gets in your blood stream, 107 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,459 it can go to your heart. 108 00:07:22,542 --> 00:07:25,042 We've gotta get this girl over there in a hurry. 109 00:07:25,125 --> 00:07:27,250 (SIREN WAILING) 110 00:07:27,334 --> 00:07:29,167 JEANETTE GREEN: There were lots of strange things, 111 00:07:29,250 --> 00:07:30,626 lots of strange things. 112 00:07:30,709 --> 00:07:32,792 You never know what's coming in. 113 00:07:32,876 --> 00:07:34,959 This snake bite was different. 114 00:07:35,042 --> 00:07:39,209 Uh, we didn't see a lot of snake bites 115 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:42,334 to the magnitude of, uh... 116 00:07:43,209 --> 00:07:45,209 the one that occurred that night. 117 00:07:45,292 --> 00:07:47,000 (SIREN WAILING) 118 00:07:49,459 --> 00:07:52,209 DAVID: With us, we don't carry any antivenom. 119 00:07:52,292 --> 00:07:55,000 And now, this is for the doctors to decide if they need it, 120 00:07:55,083 --> 00:07:56,083 what kind they need. 121 00:07:56,167 --> 00:07:57,918 JEANETTE: We treated her, but you know, 122 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,667 small county hospital, 123 00:07:59,751 --> 00:08:03,334 uh, we didn't have antivenom. 124 00:08:03,417 --> 00:08:05,459 DAVID: Then we load her back up and I tell Bobby, 125 00:08:05,542 --> 00:08:06,792 "Get me to Birmingham." 126 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:09,542 (SIREN WAILING) 127 00:08:09,626 --> 00:08:12,417 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 128 00:08:15,250 --> 00:08:17,334 I can only get a limited amount of information 129 00:08:17,417 --> 00:08:18,626 in the back of the ambulance. 130 00:08:18,709 --> 00:08:20,500 She described a very gruesome story 131 00:08:20,584 --> 00:08:23,042 of her husband trying to kill her. 132 00:08:23,751 --> 00:08:25,834 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 133 00:08:28,542 --> 00:08:31,125 ♪ (SLOW MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 134 00:08:33,667 --> 00:08:36,626 CHIEF RALPH DAWE: Back then, I was working as a patrolman. 135 00:08:37,626 --> 00:08:39,250 Been a police officer for... 136 00:08:39,334 --> 00:08:41,876 in March, it'll be 30 years. 137 00:08:41,959 --> 00:08:43,918 I was here two years, 138 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,459 when this all happened. 139 00:08:46,542 --> 00:08:48,626 All I thought about was the pain 140 00:08:48,709 --> 00:08:51,417 and what was going through her head mentally, 141 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:53,167 you know, whether she's gonna live or die 142 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:55,459 and make it to the hospital or not. 143 00:08:56,417 --> 00:09:00,250 And the idea that somebody... 144 00:09:01,042 --> 00:09:02,334 close to her... 145 00:09:03,709 --> 00:09:05,042 made her get bit. 146 00:09:06,209 --> 00:09:07,500 Allegedly. 147 00:09:08,834 --> 00:09:10,125 OFFICER: Drop the gun! 148 00:09:10,209 --> 00:09:11,584 (VOICES ECHOING) 149 00:09:11,667 --> 00:09:12,751 OFFICER: Drop it! 150 00:09:14,209 --> 00:09:17,709 CHIEF DAWE: Our officers practice on different scenarios 151 00:09:17,792 --> 00:09:21,292 with making contact with bad people. 152 00:09:21,375 --> 00:09:24,459 (GUNSHOTS) 153 00:09:32,459 --> 00:09:33,751 (LAUGHS) 154 00:09:34,667 --> 00:09:36,667 I've been in meth homes before 155 00:09:36,751 --> 00:09:40,375 that they actually had pet rattlesnakes in the house. 156 00:09:41,334 --> 00:09:43,083 I've heard this story since I was a kid. 157 00:09:43,167 --> 00:09:45,667 My dad was an investigator at the sheriff's office 158 00:09:45,751 --> 00:09:47,083 when, uh, Chief Dawe-- 159 00:09:47,167 --> 00:09:49,000 when this-- when this whole case went down. 160 00:09:49,083 --> 00:09:51,125 It's not a story you hear every day, 161 00:09:51,209 --> 00:09:53,000 anywhere else in the world. 162 00:09:53,083 --> 00:09:56,667 Religion, relationships, and murder. 163 00:09:56,751 --> 00:09:58,083 -Booze. -And booze. 164 00:09:58,167 --> 00:10:00,417 Tie all four of those together, and you've got a story, 165 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:02,083 there's no question there. 166 00:10:02,751 --> 00:10:05,959 (RATTLING) 167 00:10:06,042 --> 00:10:08,125 REPORTER 1: Scottsboro police say this five-foot-long 168 00:10:08,209 --> 00:10:11,292 poisonous rattlesnake was used as a weapon. 169 00:10:11,375 --> 00:10:14,959 This snake and 15 others are owned by Glenn Summerford. 170 00:10:15,042 --> 00:10:17,125 But earlier this week, police say, 171 00:10:17,209 --> 00:10:18,292 Summerford used the snakes 172 00:10:18,375 --> 00:10:21,083 to assault his wife, Darlene Summerford. 173 00:10:23,209 --> 00:10:26,167 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 174 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,375 CLARENCE BOLTE: Well, I was the lead investigator. 175 00:10:33,459 --> 00:10:36,209 But as to whether that qualifies me or not, 176 00:10:36,292 --> 00:10:37,667 I don't know. 177 00:10:37,751 --> 00:10:40,542 I was just a police officer doing a job. 178 00:10:41,584 --> 00:10:45,292 Well I received a report one morning about a... 179 00:10:46,792 --> 00:10:49,667 woman being bit by a rattlesnake. 180 00:10:49,751 --> 00:10:51,834 -♪ (DELICATE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(DOG BARKING) 181 00:10:51,918 --> 00:10:54,918 We went out to her husband's house. 182 00:10:56,584 --> 00:11:00,167 He gave us permission to search his property. 183 00:11:02,167 --> 00:11:06,292 He carried us out there to where they kept the snakes. 184 00:11:06,375 --> 00:11:09,083 He had them in a locked shed or something. 185 00:11:12,167 --> 00:11:14,542 And he unlocked it, and we went in, 186 00:11:14,626 --> 00:11:16,042 and in these cages... 187 00:11:16,125 --> 00:11:17,417 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 188 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:19,375 ...is where the snakes were. 189 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,250 That was the weapon that was used in the crime. 190 00:11:26,334 --> 00:11:28,584 (CHATTER CONTINUES) 191 00:11:28,667 --> 00:11:31,375 And this is collected as evidence. 192 00:11:31,459 --> 00:11:34,125 The snake became the evidence. 193 00:11:35,417 --> 00:11:37,042 MAN 1: Bring this new box out here. 194 00:11:37,125 --> 00:11:39,083 MAN 2: All right. Let me get this top down. 195 00:11:39,167 --> 00:11:41,500 MAN 1: (LAUGHING) Yeah, please, get the top down. 196 00:11:41,584 --> 00:11:42,959 -(MAN 3 LAUGHS) -(SNAKE RATTLING) 197 00:11:43,042 --> 00:11:45,209 MAN 1: Holy smoke. 198 00:11:45,292 --> 00:11:48,626 CLARENCE: The biggest one, a big diamondback. 199 00:11:49,292 --> 00:11:50,250 Big snake. 200 00:11:50,334 --> 00:11:51,375 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 201 00:11:51,459 --> 00:11:53,292 CLARENCE: They put this noose around him 202 00:11:53,375 --> 00:11:55,083 and took him out and yeah, he-- 203 00:11:55,876 --> 00:11:57,292 he put up a fight. 204 00:11:57,375 --> 00:11:59,417 -(MAN 3 SHOUTS) -SNAKE HISSES 205 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:00,751 MAN 2: Get that sucker. 206 00:12:03,209 --> 00:12:04,459 (LAUGHTER) 207 00:12:04,542 --> 00:12:06,709 MAN 1: Holy-- Should get that on him, yeah. 208 00:12:06,792 --> 00:12:08,459 Oh, mercy! 209 00:12:08,542 --> 00:12:10,876 (LAUGHTER) 210 00:12:11,876 --> 00:12:13,667 CLARENCE: We confiscated all of them. 211 00:12:13,751 --> 00:12:15,042 MAN 2: Think that's going pretty good. 212 00:12:15,125 --> 00:12:17,918 CLARENCE: Because all of them were potential weapons 213 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,375 that could be used. 214 00:12:23,125 --> 00:12:24,959 It's the first time I've ever 215 00:12:25,042 --> 00:12:27,125 had anything like that happen. 216 00:12:28,125 --> 00:12:30,459 And nothing else since. 217 00:12:31,876 --> 00:12:34,167 We got all the snakes, 218 00:12:34,250 --> 00:12:36,334 and then we went inside the house 219 00:12:36,417 --> 00:12:38,667 and we searched inside the house. 220 00:12:40,542 --> 00:12:42,375 Just about every room 221 00:12:43,125 --> 00:12:45,042 was disarranged. 222 00:12:45,125 --> 00:12:48,083 You know, I mean there was chairs turned over, 223 00:12:48,792 --> 00:12:51,584 covers strowed around. 224 00:12:51,667 --> 00:12:53,083 I couldn't really determine 225 00:12:53,167 --> 00:12:54,792 if there had been a fight or not, 226 00:12:54,876 --> 00:12:59,125 because of everything just strowed around like it was. 227 00:13:00,459 --> 00:13:04,042 We didn't find any weapons or anything of that nature. 228 00:13:06,250 --> 00:13:08,167 There was a purse, 229 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:11,083 one of these bag-like purses hanging on the-- 230 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:13,834 on the door. 231 00:13:16,584 --> 00:13:18,876 And it started moving. 232 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:22,334 And I thought, "Now we're gonna find a snake in there." 233 00:13:22,417 --> 00:13:24,667 -(RADIO CHATTER) -♪ (MUSIC SWELLS DRAMATICALLY) ♪ 234 00:13:28,626 --> 00:13:30,959 CLARENCE: A raccoon jumped out of the purse 235 00:13:31,042 --> 00:13:33,626 and ran off up the wall. 236 00:13:33,709 --> 00:13:35,292 Within a few days, 237 00:13:35,375 --> 00:13:37,459 Glenn Summerford was arrested, 238 00:13:38,792 --> 00:13:42,959 and they ended up charging him with attempted murder 239 00:13:43,042 --> 00:13:44,959 and carried him into court. 240 00:13:50,334 --> 00:13:52,667 (DOOR CREAKING) 241 00:13:52,751 --> 00:13:55,209 CLARENCE: But your facts and your evidence 242 00:13:55,292 --> 00:13:58,334 is what makes your case. 243 00:13:58,417 --> 00:14:02,918 Your biggest thing you had was her statement against him. 244 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,500 "Well, he forced me with a gun to do this, 245 00:14:06,584 --> 00:14:09,334 and I was bitten twice." 246 00:14:09,417 --> 00:14:12,417 And then him saying she had gone out there 247 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:14,751 to commit suicide. 248 00:14:14,834 --> 00:14:17,751 and they'd had an argument, and he got drunk, passed out, 249 00:14:17,834 --> 00:14:21,292 and when he woke up, she'd got bit by the snake. 250 00:14:21,375 --> 00:14:25,542 This hinged mainly on the victim. 251 00:14:25,626 --> 00:14:28,375 So I was surprised that we got in there. 252 00:14:28,459 --> 00:14:32,000 I didn't think the case was that strong. 253 00:14:33,459 --> 00:14:36,209 THEO LOVE: Why did these people have snakes? 254 00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:39,083 They handled them in their religious service. 255 00:14:41,209 --> 00:14:43,792 There was some videos collected as evidence. 256 00:14:43,876 --> 00:14:46,459 We turned them over to the district attorney. 257 00:14:46,542 --> 00:14:49,667 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 258 00:14:53,584 --> 00:14:56,334 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 259 00:14:58,167 --> 00:14:59,334 MAN 4: You need help? 260 00:15:07,250 --> 00:15:08,542 DARLENE SUMMERFORD: ...before you go in. 261 00:15:08,626 --> 00:15:09,584 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 262 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:10,876 They ain't started nothing. 263 00:15:10,959 --> 00:15:12,626 MAN 5: Now come on, what you asking for? 264 00:15:12,709 --> 00:15:13,876 Everybody's in church. 265 00:15:14,918 --> 00:15:19,417 -MAN 6: Yeah, Lord. -(SNAKE RATTLES) 266 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:22,626 (INDISTINCT PRAYING) 267 00:15:31,751 --> 00:15:33,667 PREACHER: Praise you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus. 268 00:15:33,751 --> 00:15:35,918 -Glory to God Jesus. -♪ (INDISTINCT SINGING) ♪ 269 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,751 (SINGING) ♪ I believe The more you wander... ♪ 270 00:15:39,834 --> 00:15:43,626 (OVERLAPPING PREACHING AND SINGING) 271 00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:56,167 (SINGING AND PREACHING CONTINUE) 272 00:16:08,876 --> 00:16:11,584 (HISSING) 273 00:16:12,334 --> 00:16:15,459 (PRAYING AND SINGING) 274 00:16:22,751 --> 00:16:25,000 ♪ (INDISTINCT SINGING) ♪ 275 00:16:25,083 --> 00:16:29,542 GLENN SUMMERFORD: Praise God, praise God, praise God. Glory. 276 00:16:43,918 --> 00:16:47,584 (RADIO CHATTER) 277 00:16:47,667 --> 00:16:50,584 CHIEF DAWE: I think people that live up on the mountain 278 00:16:50,667 --> 00:16:55,292 tend to take care of their own problems. 279 00:16:55,375 --> 00:16:59,918 They don't-- they don't need or want the policing 280 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,375 that you would find here in Scottsboro. 281 00:17:04,375 --> 00:17:06,876 Back then, you know, people didn't realize 282 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:10,542 that that element had moved down here in the valley 283 00:17:10,626 --> 00:17:14,542 in Scottsboro and was, you know, operating here. 284 00:17:14,626 --> 00:17:17,542 I don't think any person in Scottsboro 285 00:17:17,626 --> 00:17:20,959 would like that to be prevalent in their city. 286 00:17:21,042 --> 00:17:23,542 I think they're ashamed of the whole idea 287 00:17:23,626 --> 00:17:24,876 of snake handling. 288 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:26,792 You know, a lot of people were like, 289 00:17:26,876 --> 00:17:29,292 "Well, we didn't know they were here," you know? 290 00:17:29,375 --> 00:17:30,584 They didn't know. 291 00:17:32,709 --> 00:17:34,459 Until something bad happens. 292 00:17:34,542 --> 00:17:37,667 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 293 00:17:39,209 --> 00:17:40,959 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 294 00:17:41,042 --> 00:17:42,959 In opening arguments here this afternoon, 295 00:17:43,042 --> 00:17:45,334 the prosecution painted Glenn Summerford 296 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:48,584 as a brutal, jealous husband who tried to kill his wife 297 00:17:48,667 --> 00:17:50,792 using rattlesnakes as the weapon. 298 00:17:50,876 --> 00:17:52,209 REPORTER 2: To the defense, 299 00:17:52,292 --> 00:17:53,959 Darlene was a troubled woman 300 00:17:54,042 --> 00:17:55,918 trying to send her husband to prison 301 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,792 by fabricating a murder story 302 00:17:57,876 --> 00:18:00,584 based on the reptiles with whom she was obsessed. 303 00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:02,876 GARY LACKEY: The evidence will show that, uh, 304 00:18:02,959 --> 00:18:05,334 this lady is a snake handler from way back, 305 00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:07,334 and that if she handled any snakes and was bitten, 306 00:18:07,417 --> 00:18:09,876 she did it voluntarily and no one forced her to. 307 00:18:09,959 --> 00:18:11,292 CHIEF DAWE: He was trying to kill her. 308 00:18:11,375 --> 00:18:13,500 He was going to try to get away with killing her 309 00:18:13,584 --> 00:18:17,292 by saying she got bit by a snake accidentally. 310 00:18:17,375 --> 00:18:19,834 Jesus lives, that's all I know to say. 311 00:18:19,918 --> 00:18:22,751 REPORTER 3: Glenn Summerford was tried for attempted murder. 312 00:18:22,834 --> 00:18:25,250 He tried to kill me. I know that was what he done. 313 00:18:25,334 --> 00:18:26,709 He tried to kill me. 314 00:18:26,792 --> 00:18:31,500 What do the people in the church think about this? 315 00:18:31,584 --> 00:18:34,709 They believe I just told this whole story, 316 00:18:34,792 --> 00:18:37,292 and just made this whole story up. 317 00:18:37,375 --> 00:18:39,125 PARISHIONER: The man was put on trial 318 00:18:39,209 --> 00:18:42,792 not for what he did but for what he stands for. 319 00:18:42,876 --> 00:18:45,792 For serpent handling. The word of God. 320 00:18:45,876 --> 00:18:48,250 And it is the word of God. 321 00:18:48,709 --> 00:18:49,834 (SIGHS) 322 00:18:49,918 --> 00:18:52,751 I really don't know that much about their religion. 323 00:18:52,834 --> 00:18:56,042 What they did at their church, that's their business. 324 00:18:56,792 --> 00:18:59,334 She testified before the jury. 325 00:19:00,751 --> 00:19:03,542 On Friday, after she got bit, 326 00:19:03,626 --> 00:19:06,500 he wouldn't let her go to the doctor. 327 00:19:06,584 --> 00:19:08,584 The following morning, on Saturday, 328 00:19:08,667 --> 00:19:10,667 he carried her several places. 329 00:19:10,751 --> 00:19:14,417 Then after dark on Saturday, he forced her hand down 330 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:19,083 in that snake cage again, and she was bit one more time. 331 00:19:20,167 --> 00:19:22,542 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 332 00:19:24,417 --> 00:19:26,876 She says one thing and he says something else, 333 00:19:26,959 --> 00:19:29,459 so did it occur? 334 00:19:29,542 --> 00:19:32,167 I can't tell you yes or no. 335 00:19:33,334 --> 00:19:36,584 Because it wasn't my decision to decide. 336 00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:39,292 Go to the court if you want to know what happened. 337 00:19:41,167 --> 00:19:43,375 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 338 00:19:43,459 --> 00:19:47,125 (DOOR CREAKS OPEN) 339 00:19:47,209 --> 00:19:51,000 TALITHA LOVIN: These are boxes going back at least 30 years 340 00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:53,042 of all the cases in Jackson County. 341 00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,709 Back before steno machines went digital, 342 00:19:55,792 --> 00:19:57,417 they used to write to paper. 343 00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:02,042 We're looking for January through June of 1992. 344 00:20:02,125 --> 00:20:04,584 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 345 00:20:08,209 --> 00:20:09,500 I bet this is it. 346 00:20:13,334 --> 00:20:15,417 State versus Glenn Summerford. 347 00:20:16,876 --> 00:20:19,083 (DOOR CREAKING) 348 00:20:20,417 --> 00:20:21,792 TALITHA: I'm the one that sits there 349 00:20:21,876 --> 00:20:23,792 and writes everything down that's said in court. 350 00:20:23,876 --> 00:20:26,626 It's typing in a different language. 351 00:20:26,709 --> 00:20:29,959 Court reporters are certified at 225 words a minute, 352 00:20:30,042 --> 00:20:33,167 so if you tried to type on a regular keyboard, 353 00:20:34,042 --> 00:20:35,209 there is no way. I mean, 354 00:20:35,292 --> 00:20:37,417 your fingers would be burning, smoking, everything, 355 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:39,083 so that wouldn't be possible. 356 00:20:39,167 --> 00:20:40,417 So this is shorthand. 357 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,667 Instead of symbols, we use letters. 358 00:20:54,209 --> 00:20:56,959 "He started screaming and hollering 359 00:20:57,042 --> 00:21:00,000 and accusing me of running around. 360 00:21:00,083 --> 00:21:04,751 And then he said that he was going to go... 361 00:21:06,209 --> 00:21:09,667 make me get bit and die, 362 00:21:09,751 --> 00:21:14,500 and say it was going to look like a suicide, 363 00:21:14,584 --> 00:21:18,292 and he was going to tell everybody when I died, 364 00:21:18,375 --> 00:21:20,209 he just woke up." 365 00:21:20,292 --> 00:21:23,834 "Question: Did he carry you anywhere then?" 366 00:21:25,042 --> 00:21:27,542 "He grabbed me 367 00:21:27,626 --> 00:21:31,459 and held this gun to my head, 368 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:34,876 and he made me go out to the shed. 369 00:21:36,334 --> 00:21:38,918 He said if I didn't reach over there 370 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,375 and pick up that snake, 371 00:21:42,459 --> 00:21:46,209 he was going to stick my face in it. 372 00:21:46,292 --> 00:21:48,667 He had me by the hair of the head 373 00:21:48,751 --> 00:21:51,125 and the gun right here. 374 00:21:51,209 --> 00:21:55,417 I was praying, and I reached in there 375 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,000 and got to get it. 376 00:21:57,083 --> 00:22:01,334 I picked it up, but it bit me on the thumb." 377 00:22:03,834 --> 00:22:04,792 (CLOCK TOLLING) 378 00:22:04,876 --> 00:22:06,792 She was bitten two different times, 379 00:22:06,876 --> 00:22:09,667 and he did not allow her to seek medical attention, 380 00:22:09,751 --> 00:22:11,667 which is attempted murder. 381 00:22:11,751 --> 00:22:14,334 REPORTER 4: The jury found Summerford guilty. 382 00:22:14,417 --> 00:22:16,459 He had two prior felony convictions, 383 00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:19,292 and under our habitual offender act, 384 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:22,209 the least sentence was 99 years, 385 00:22:22,292 --> 00:22:25,042 uh, so I didn't have much choice. 386 00:22:26,125 --> 00:22:28,459 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 387 00:22:33,042 --> 00:22:36,167 DR. BURTON: When I first started researching this story, 388 00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:41,042 it wasn't about reopening Glenn Summerford's case. 389 00:22:41,125 --> 00:22:43,584 It was about understanding it. 390 00:22:46,959 --> 00:22:49,417 These are the tapes that I made 391 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:53,083 relative to the Glenn Summerford trial 392 00:22:53,167 --> 00:22:58,083 and the incident of his being put in prison. 393 00:22:58,167 --> 00:23:01,250 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 394 00:23:03,876 --> 00:23:06,042 (RATTLESNAKE HISSES) 395 00:23:10,292 --> 00:23:13,125 DR. BURTON (ON TAPE): Interview with Glenn Summerford 396 00:23:13,209 --> 00:23:16,083 at Limestone Correctional Facility. 397 00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:40,459 (BIRDS SINGING) 398 00:23:40,542 --> 00:23:43,626 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 399 00:23:47,584 --> 00:23:49,375 GLENN (ON TAPE): 400 00:23:53,083 --> 00:23:55,751 (RAUCOUS LAUGHTER) 401 00:24:32,125 --> 00:24:34,000 (APPROACHING FOOTSTEPS) 402 00:24:41,792 --> 00:24:43,667 (COINS JANGLING) 403 00:25:00,459 --> 00:25:01,792 GLENN: 404 00:25:09,125 --> 00:25:11,667 ♪ (DETERMINED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 405 00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:27,876 (YOUNG GLENN GRUNTS) 406 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:10,834 (YOUNG GLENN GRUNTING) 407 00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:13,459 (GLENN'S STEPFATHER GRUNTS) 408 00:26:21,834 --> 00:26:23,083 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 409 00:26:39,417 --> 00:26:45,083 DORIS SUMMERFORD: ♪ (SINGING INDISTINCTLY) ♪ 410 00:26:47,209 --> 00:26:49,417 ♪ (CONTINUES SINGING) ♪ 411 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,667 ♪ It seemed the waves ♪ 412 00:26:53,751 --> 00:26:56,250 ♪ Would not obey ♪ 413 00:26:56,334 --> 00:27:01,417 ♪ The master's call For peace ♪ 414 00:27:02,709 --> 00:27:06,000 Y'all still filmin'? (LAUGHS) 415 00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:09,042 My name is Doris Summerford. 416 00:27:10,042 --> 00:27:12,959 I'm Glenn Summerford's wife. 417 00:27:16,834 --> 00:27:18,667 Was. (CHUCKLES) 418 00:27:19,959 --> 00:27:22,292 I've always liked to sing, 419 00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:24,459 but, uh, see, according to my family 420 00:27:24,542 --> 00:27:26,876 I can't carry a tune in a bucket, 421 00:27:26,959 --> 00:27:29,500 so I just mostly sing to me. 422 00:27:29,584 --> 00:27:32,167 (CHUCKLES) And the good Lord. 423 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:33,667 He don't complain. 424 00:27:34,584 --> 00:27:38,167 -(BIRDS CALLING) -(INSECTS BUZZING) 425 00:27:40,209 --> 00:27:43,626 DORIS: I met him when I was in the first grade. 426 00:27:43,709 --> 00:27:47,500 He run up and hollered he was gonna marry me, 427 00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:51,500 and I said, "No, you ain't." (LAUGHS) 428 00:27:51,584 --> 00:27:55,167 September 14th of '63, we got married, 429 00:27:55,250 --> 00:27:59,417 which tells you how dumb I was. (LAUGHS) 430 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,876 When I gave my heart away, I gave it all away. 431 00:28:03,167 --> 00:28:04,626 -I loved him... -(YOUNG DORIS GIGGLES) 432 00:28:04,709 --> 00:28:07,542 ...and I tried to do about anything he said to do. 433 00:28:09,209 --> 00:28:12,667 It was taken right after we got married. 434 00:28:12,751 --> 00:28:14,542 He had been down there in the shed, 435 00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:16,959 him and one of his buddies, boxing. 436 00:28:17,042 --> 00:28:19,250 He loved to fight before we got married, 437 00:28:19,334 --> 00:28:22,375 and he still fought after we got married. (LAUGHS) 438 00:28:25,334 --> 00:28:27,459 If he was out drinkin', 439 00:28:27,542 --> 00:28:29,459 you come up and said something to him, 440 00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:32,876 got in his face, you might wind up sittin' on the floor. 441 00:28:35,626 --> 00:28:37,500 (OWL HOOTING) 442 00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:42,209 (OWL HOOTING) 443 00:28:44,959 --> 00:28:49,751 DR. BURTON: Glenn was a really rough, tough person 444 00:28:49,834 --> 00:28:51,459 in the early part of his life, 445 00:28:51,542 --> 00:28:53,876 before he was really converted. 446 00:28:57,918 --> 00:29:01,209 That was the kind of person they knew Glenn to be, 447 00:29:01,292 --> 00:29:03,709 especially when he was drinking. 448 00:29:08,626 --> 00:29:12,375 Earlier in his life, he was convicted 449 00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:16,667 of two... what were then considered felonies, 450 00:29:16,751 --> 00:29:20,918 and he had a history of conflict with the law. 451 00:29:38,667 --> 00:29:40,500 (MEN SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY) 452 00:29:40,584 --> 00:29:43,292 GLENN: 453 00:29:53,334 --> 00:29:54,500 (PANTING) 454 00:29:55,584 --> 00:29:56,626 So... 455 00:29:56,709 --> 00:29:58,375 (INDISTINCT CHANTING) 456 00:29:58,459 --> 00:29:59,584 (ALL CHEER) 457 00:30:03,709 --> 00:30:05,292 GLENN: 458 00:30:09,125 --> 00:30:10,417 DR. BURTON: 459 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,125 GLENN: 460 00:30:15,042 --> 00:30:17,876 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 461 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,250 -(CRICKETS CHIRPING) -(WATER SPLASHING) 462 00:31:14,125 --> 00:31:16,209 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 463 00:31:27,709 --> 00:31:29,500 (WATER SPLASHING) 464 00:31:29,834 --> 00:31:31,375 GLENN: 465 00:31:36,709 --> 00:31:39,167 (SARAH LAUGHS) 466 00:31:49,459 --> 00:31:53,417 DORIS: He always said somebody caused the house fire. 467 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:57,375 But it, uh, never was provable. 468 00:31:58,250 --> 00:31:59,542 (GLASS BREAKING) 469 00:32:01,667 --> 00:32:05,209 Glenn Jr. was the one that woke us up 470 00:32:05,292 --> 00:32:07,709 about 4:30, 5 o'clock in the morning. 471 00:32:28,292 --> 00:32:31,292 DORIS: I was reaching for her when I caught on fire. 472 00:32:31,375 --> 00:32:33,083 -GLENN: Come on! -(DORIS SCREAMS) 473 00:32:36,918 --> 00:32:40,375 He said he saw my hair blaze up, 474 00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,667 and he grabbed me, 475 00:32:42,751 --> 00:32:46,709 and, well, was trying to put me out, 476 00:32:46,792 --> 00:32:49,209 and I was fighting him, and he said 477 00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,167 we both went out the window. 478 00:32:58,250 --> 00:33:01,334 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 479 00:33:24,209 --> 00:33:27,417 He tried to get back in the window and some of the... 480 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,918 neighbors had got there and... 481 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,834 they held him back. 482 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,918 I kept hollering, "My baby! My baby!" 483 00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:43,042 Sarah was one year, eight months, 484 00:33:43,125 --> 00:33:45,250 twenty-five days old when she died. 485 00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:48,876 But in her short life, 486 00:33:49,918 --> 00:33:52,792 she had a... a lot of love. 487 00:34:24,751 --> 00:34:27,167 DORIS: He carried us to the hospital. 488 00:34:28,209 --> 00:34:29,876 I was leaving my baby, 489 00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:32,375 and I wasn't liking it. 490 00:34:32,459 --> 00:34:34,834 But there wasn't nothing I could do about it. 491 00:34:39,167 --> 00:34:40,292 (MUMBLES) 492 00:34:55,375 --> 00:34:57,918 Glenn wasn't the same after that. 493 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,209 He would go down and sit at the cemetery. 494 00:35:04,542 --> 00:35:05,667 Uh... 495 00:35:06,584 --> 00:35:09,292 He wouldn't talk that much about her. 496 00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:16,626 He-- I don't know whether he kind of blamed his self 497 00:35:16,709 --> 00:35:18,918 'cause he couldn't get back in there to her. 498 00:35:21,375 --> 00:35:24,959 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(FAUCET RUNNING) 499 00:35:25,042 --> 00:35:28,542 DORIS: We did pretty good most of the time, 500 00:35:29,292 --> 00:35:30,709 but, uh... 501 00:35:32,167 --> 00:35:33,667 you didn't argue with him. 502 00:35:37,167 --> 00:35:38,918 I loved him, 503 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,500 but at times I was afraid of him. 504 00:35:44,167 --> 00:35:45,876 Fear and love. 505 00:35:45,959 --> 00:35:47,500 They went together. 506 00:35:48,626 --> 00:35:51,667 I had to be very careful what I said and what I did. 507 00:35:52,417 --> 00:35:54,375 To me, he was just abusive... 508 00:35:55,083 --> 00:35:56,459 at times. 509 00:35:56,542 --> 00:35:59,751 He could be good, he could be bad. 510 00:35:59,834 --> 00:36:01,959 THEO: Do you think Glenn's capable of murder? 511 00:36:07,918 --> 00:36:09,000 Possibly. 512 00:36:10,834 --> 00:36:12,876 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 513 00:36:39,626 --> 00:36:44,500 The original story, I presume, 514 00:36:44,584 --> 00:36:48,375 of the "serpent" in the Bible 515 00:36:48,459 --> 00:36:49,918 begins in Genesis. 516 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,125 Satan appears in the form of a serpent 517 00:36:53,209 --> 00:36:57,417 to tempt Eve with the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. 518 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:00,792 As result of her eating the apple, 519 00:37:00,876 --> 00:37:04,125 some people believe that women 520 00:37:04,209 --> 00:37:07,083 are symbolic of temptation and sin. 521 00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:10,542 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 522 00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:30,751 Darlene, Glenn, and the good Lord 523 00:37:30,834 --> 00:37:32,584 is all that knows what happened. 524 00:37:34,209 --> 00:37:37,042 'Cause I have heard 525 00:37:37,125 --> 00:37:39,834 both of 'em tell the truth, 526 00:37:39,918 --> 00:37:42,250 and I've heard both of 'em tell lies. 527 00:37:44,083 --> 00:37:46,709 I don't know exactly when him and her 528 00:37:46,792 --> 00:37:48,834 started seeing each other, 529 00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:52,292 but in '74, I think it was, 530 00:37:52,375 --> 00:37:54,334 him and her got married. 531 00:37:55,042 --> 00:37:57,083 They got married on my birthday. 532 00:37:57,876 --> 00:37:59,959 (LAUGHS) 533 00:38:00,042 --> 00:38:01,709 I always told him he didn't-- 534 00:38:01,792 --> 00:38:03,959 he wanted to make sure I didn't forget. 535 00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:09,542 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 536 00:38:30,167 --> 00:38:32,125 DARLENE: 537 00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:40,417 (LAUGHS) 538 00:38:50,584 --> 00:38:52,459 (LAUGHING) 539 00:39:25,959 --> 00:39:29,125 (MARTY FUSSING) 540 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:35,000 (CRYING) 541 00:39:52,751 --> 00:39:55,334 ♪ (QUIET MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 542 00:40:04,626 --> 00:40:05,918 (DOOR CREAKS OPEN) 543 00:40:07,834 --> 00:40:10,125 MARTY SUMMERFORD: I ain't never really talked to nobody about it, 544 00:40:10,209 --> 00:40:11,584 you know, uh... 545 00:40:12,250 --> 00:40:14,542 not never been somethin' 546 00:40:14,626 --> 00:40:17,250 that I cared much about talkin' about, but... 547 00:40:18,834 --> 00:40:20,876 heck, I lived it though. 548 00:40:25,834 --> 00:40:27,709 (CAR ENGINE STARTS) 549 00:40:29,417 --> 00:40:31,042 I was probably the poorest kid that ever went 550 00:40:31,125 --> 00:40:33,167 to Scottsboro School, you know? 551 00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:35,667 Got picked on a lot. Fought a lot. 552 00:40:35,751 --> 00:40:39,042 Daddy always told me, "Boy, don't you ever start a fight." 553 00:40:39,125 --> 00:40:41,792 He said, "But if someone else starts it you better finish it, 554 00:40:41,876 --> 00:40:43,792 or I'll finish it when you get home." 555 00:40:44,918 --> 00:40:47,876 He was probably the toughest man I ever seen. 556 00:40:47,959 --> 00:40:51,334 He cast a big shadow, you know? 557 00:40:51,417 --> 00:40:53,250 Hard to hold up to that. 558 00:40:54,250 --> 00:40:57,334 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 559 00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:20,918 MARTY: I gotta be careful with what I say, but... 560 00:41:24,083 --> 00:41:27,709 Daddy, when he was mad at somebody, he didn't-- 561 00:41:27,792 --> 00:41:29,375 he didn't really have a conscience 562 00:41:29,459 --> 00:41:31,042 before he got church. 563 00:41:34,876 --> 00:41:36,334 -(GLENN CURSING) -(CLATTERING) 564 00:41:36,417 --> 00:41:38,626 MARTY: There was this one guy, tried to hit on my mom. 565 00:41:38,709 --> 00:41:40,167 He was drunk, they was drinking, 566 00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:42,542 and he kept trying to hit on my mom. 567 00:41:42,626 --> 00:41:45,167 Daddy end up whooping him like that, 568 00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:46,459 knocking his eyeball out. 569 00:41:46,542 --> 00:41:48,626 And he did that with a pair of vice grips. 570 00:41:48,709 --> 00:41:51,667 I mean he-- he didn't care. 571 00:41:51,751 --> 00:41:53,834 He threw him off a waterfall for dead. 572 00:41:53,918 --> 00:41:55,292 We just left him. 573 00:41:55,375 --> 00:41:57,000 (FLIES BUZZING) 574 00:42:04,209 --> 00:42:06,918 DR. BURTON: Glenn was the kind of person, 575 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,709 if he wanted her dead, she would be dead. 576 00:42:10,792 --> 00:42:14,542 That was the kind of person they knew Glenn to be 577 00:42:14,626 --> 00:42:19,375 up to this point that he became redeemed. 578 00:42:19,459 --> 00:42:22,918 When he went through that redemption, 579 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,209 then he was a holy man who was intent on doing right. 580 00:42:28,292 --> 00:42:33,542 And to him, this would explain his innocence. 581 00:42:34,375 --> 00:42:37,250 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 582 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,375 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 583 00:43:48,584 --> 00:43:52,375 ♪ (MUSIC BUILDS) ♪ 584 00:43:59,959 --> 00:44:02,459 (FIRE CRACKLING) 585 00:44:08,292 --> 00:44:10,918 DR. BURTON: Holiness Pentecostals like Glenn 586 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,000 believe a man can be redeemed 587 00:44:15,083 --> 00:44:17,375 from previous sins 588 00:44:17,459 --> 00:44:22,834 and attain a new state of sanctification. 589 00:44:24,083 --> 00:44:27,959 Glenn wanted to be a man of God. 590 00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:33,709 (WATER DRIPPING) 591 00:44:35,751 --> 00:44:40,584 GLENN: 592 00:44:43,626 --> 00:44:46,292 (DISTANT CHANTING AND SINGING) 593 00:44:54,042 --> 00:44:55,083 (CHUCKLES) 594 00:45:00,250 --> 00:45:03,250 (RATTLING) 595 00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:14,626 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 596 00:45:30,209 --> 00:45:32,542 DR. BURTON: Holiness Pentecostals 597 00:45:32,626 --> 00:45:35,667 go out to a stream or to a lake 598 00:45:35,751 --> 00:45:39,375 and baptize by immersion 599 00:45:39,459 --> 00:45:41,334 for the remission of sin. 600 00:45:45,542 --> 00:45:49,375 Born again by the water and the Spirit. 601 00:45:49,459 --> 00:45:52,626 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 602 00:46:03,959 --> 00:46:07,375 DR. BURTON: 603 00:46:11,417 --> 00:46:14,292 ♪ (MUSIC BUILDS) ♪ 604 00:46:17,834 --> 00:46:19,459 (GASPS) 605 00:46:22,125 --> 00:46:24,876 (PANTING) 606 00:46:24,959 --> 00:46:28,876 DR. BURTON: Why does anyone have a conversion 607 00:46:28,959 --> 00:46:30,709 from one life to another? 608 00:46:30,792 --> 00:46:33,959 That's-- that's a psychological, 609 00:46:34,042 --> 00:46:36,292 emotional experience 610 00:46:36,375 --> 00:46:40,125 that would be different in every individual's life. 611 00:46:40,667 --> 00:46:41,876 Why? 612 00:46:41,959 --> 00:46:45,417 (CHUCKLES) A lot of people hit the bottom and die. 613 00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:48,250 A lot of people hit the bottom and don't die. 614 00:46:48,334 --> 00:46:52,459 Some of 'em hit the bottom and find Jesus. 615 00:46:58,709 --> 00:47:02,709 (INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER) 616 00:47:02,792 --> 00:47:04,959 A crime happens and you go-- and you go out 617 00:47:05,042 --> 00:47:07,667 to your usual suspects, right? 618 00:47:07,751 --> 00:47:10,500 And you go ask them about the crime and then, 619 00:47:10,584 --> 00:47:12,709 you know, "Oh, no, no, I'm good, 620 00:47:12,792 --> 00:47:15,751 I don't do that no more, I go to church and..." 621 00:47:15,834 --> 00:47:17,334 But, you know... 622 00:47:17,417 --> 00:47:20,792 it's just all a farce. (CHUCKLES) 623 00:47:25,542 --> 00:47:27,417 MARTY: When he-- when he started going to church, 624 00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:29,250 it was hard for people to understand 625 00:47:29,334 --> 00:47:31,584 how somebody could change that quick, you know? 626 00:47:31,667 --> 00:47:34,375 And I might be part of the reason he got in church. 627 00:47:34,459 --> 00:47:36,459 He wanted to be a better daddy. 628 00:47:36,542 --> 00:47:39,375 ♪ (SINGING INDISTINCTLY) ♪ 629 00:47:46,292 --> 00:47:48,751 There's always something good that comes of it. 630 00:47:54,667 --> 00:47:56,209 And so, everybody praise... 631 00:47:57,083 --> 00:47:59,792 GLENN: 632 00:48:09,125 --> 00:48:11,334 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 633 00:48:20,375 --> 00:48:22,250 MARTY: The night he got the Holy Ghost, 634 00:48:22,334 --> 00:48:25,417 he prayed all night long. I remember it. 635 00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:27,334 It was pretty wild. 636 00:48:27,417 --> 00:48:29,959 He dranked all the time before that. 637 00:48:30,042 --> 00:48:32,584 He quit that instant. He was done. 638 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:34,542 Tears rolled up in his eyes 639 00:48:34,626 --> 00:48:36,334 and he said, "I'm not that man no more." 640 00:48:36,417 --> 00:48:38,250 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 641 00:48:38,334 --> 00:48:40,125 MARTY: 'Cause he didn't just change one thing, 642 00:48:40,209 --> 00:48:43,292 he changed his whole life. I mean everything. 643 00:48:43,375 --> 00:48:45,584 It was like someone else just stepped in his body 644 00:48:45,667 --> 00:48:47,626 and it wasn't even him no more, you know? 645 00:48:49,709 --> 00:48:52,834 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 646 00:48:56,584 --> 00:48:58,500 He was on his knees all night. 647 00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:01,751 (VOICES WHISPERING) 648 00:49:04,167 --> 00:49:06,083 His knees was on fire. 649 00:49:09,959 --> 00:49:13,375 When he got up, the whole knees of his pants was gone. 650 00:49:13,459 --> 00:49:16,125 It was like he was a whole new man. 651 00:49:16,209 --> 00:49:19,167 Nothing could hurt him when he was in the Spirit. 652 00:49:20,459 --> 00:49:22,834 DR. BURTON: In the Bible... 653 00:49:29,918 --> 00:49:32,083 (GLENN SPEAKING IN TONGUES) 654 00:49:34,626 --> 00:49:35,876 Glory to God. 655 00:49:36,626 --> 00:49:40,250 (SPEAKING IN TONGUES) 656 00:49:40,334 --> 00:49:43,209 A lot of serpent handlers believe 657 00:49:43,292 --> 00:49:47,292 that they should be anointed with the Holy Spirit 658 00:49:47,375 --> 00:49:51,125 in order to handle serpents or do these other signs, 659 00:49:51,209 --> 00:49:56,167 and that confirms that they have God's power. 660 00:49:56,918 --> 00:50:00,876 The principle verse in... 661 00:50:31,709 --> 00:50:37,042 Those are the so-called five signs 662 00:50:38,167 --> 00:50:41,292 that will follow them that believe. 663 00:50:42,042 --> 00:50:43,918 (RATTLING) 664 00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:47,000 DR. BURTON: 665 00:51:03,626 --> 00:51:06,626 MARTY: Daddy always said he was just a man, you know? 666 00:51:06,709 --> 00:51:08,918 He wasn't nothin' without God. 667 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,417 He couldn't do nothin' without God. 668 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:13,209 I've seen him pray for people in wheelchairs, 669 00:51:13,292 --> 00:51:14,876 and they'd get up and walk. 670 00:51:14,959 --> 00:51:18,667 Like 80-year-old people that hadn't walked in 20 years. 671 00:51:18,751 --> 00:51:21,375 They'd get up and run all over the church. 672 00:51:21,459 --> 00:51:23,167 It had to be God 'cause nothin' else 673 00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:24,667 could do nothin' like that. 674 00:51:29,792 --> 00:51:32,751 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 675 00:51:37,626 --> 00:51:39,834 (FEMALE VOICE 1) 676 00:51:53,542 --> 00:51:54,667 (BONES CRACKING) 677 00:51:59,375 --> 00:52:00,292 (KNIFE CHOPPING) 678 00:52:00,375 --> 00:52:02,542 (FEMALE VOICE 2) 679 00:52:04,542 --> 00:52:05,959 (FLESH CUTS) 680 00:52:06,042 --> 00:52:08,125 (FLY BUZZING) 681 00:52:13,125 --> 00:52:14,626 ♪ (MUSIC SWELLS) ♪ 682 00:52:20,125 --> 00:52:22,500 (MALE VOICE) 683 00:52:23,417 --> 00:52:24,709 (DOG PANTS, WHINES) 684 00:52:27,709 --> 00:52:29,626 (LOW RUMBLING) 685 00:52:41,125 --> 00:52:42,959 -(INDISTINCT CLAMOR) -(BUZZING) 686 00:52:52,167 --> 00:52:54,584 Praise God tonight. We've got power tonight. 687 00:52:54,667 --> 00:52:58,000 (CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY) 688 00:52:59,709 --> 00:53:02,918 MARTY: I saw demons cast out. I saw my daddy do it. 689 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,667 I wasn't but about eight, maybe nine. 690 00:53:07,751 --> 00:53:10,292 I saw him cast one out of a guy one night at church, 691 00:53:10,375 --> 00:53:15,125 and it literally came out and run across the floor. 692 00:53:15,209 --> 00:53:18,042 I mean, it was-- it was crazy looking. 693 00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:19,709 But there was somethin' come out of him 694 00:53:19,792 --> 00:53:21,042 just run right across the floor. 695 00:53:21,125 --> 00:53:22,334 And it was runnin' around everywhere 696 00:53:22,417 --> 00:53:24,459 trying to get back into somebody else. 697 00:53:24,542 --> 00:53:26,209 And they just kept prayin'. 698 00:53:26,292 --> 00:53:28,626 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 699 00:53:30,584 --> 00:53:35,167 (INDISTINCT CLAMOR, SHOUTING) 700 00:53:37,375 --> 00:53:39,751 MARTY: It was almost like a fog-like. 701 00:53:41,125 --> 00:53:44,209 I don't know what it was-- it was-- you can't explain it. 702 00:53:45,459 --> 00:53:46,876 (ROARS) 703 00:53:46,959 --> 00:53:48,459 (DORIS LAUGHS) 704 00:53:48,542 --> 00:53:51,667 DORIS: There's more evil today than there ever has been. 705 00:53:52,042 --> 00:53:53,500 (CHUCKLES) 706 00:53:53,584 --> 00:53:56,042 So if you get scared enough, you gonna pray. 707 00:53:59,167 --> 00:54:01,584 But it's supposed to be scary. 708 00:54:03,417 --> 00:54:04,959 Fear the Lord. 709 00:54:05,042 --> 00:54:08,292 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 710 00:54:09,125 --> 00:54:12,375 (DISTANT GROWLING) 711 00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:28,334 (DISHES CLATTERING) 712 00:54:28,417 --> 00:54:29,959 GLENN: 713 00:54:30,042 --> 00:54:32,584 (RACCOON CHITTERING) 714 00:54:37,292 --> 00:54:39,125 -(RACCOON SCREECHES) -(DARLENE YELPS) 715 00:54:39,918 --> 00:54:41,125 (SOBS) 716 00:54:41,209 --> 00:54:43,209 GLENN: 717 00:54:47,334 --> 00:54:49,334 MARTY: I don't think nobody's ever really told 718 00:54:49,417 --> 00:54:50,792 the truth about it. 719 00:54:50,876 --> 00:54:53,626 And I know right there where she said she got bit, 720 00:54:53,709 --> 00:54:55,834 a 'coon bit her about a week before that. 721 00:54:55,918 --> 00:54:58,667 And that's the only bite marks I've seen on her. 722 00:54:58,751 --> 00:55:01,083 I don't know if she got bit or not. 723 00:55:01,167 --> 00:55:03,542 Yeah, she handled snakes all the time. 724 00:55:04,375 --> 00:55:06,250 They wouldn't bite her neither. 725 00:55:09,250 --> 00:55:10,834 I mean, you know, 726 00:55:10,918 --> 00:55:13,584 she could've got bit. I ain't saying she didn't. 727 00:55:13,667 --> 00:55:16,125 But I've always kinda questioned it to myself, 728 00:55:16,209 --> 00:55:18,000 you know? I've never really asked her that. 729 00:55:18,083 --> 00:55:20,000 Never really talked to her about it. 730 00:55:20,083 --> 00:55:23,167 She's not a person that you can really talk to like that, 731 00:55:23,250 --> 00:55:25,125 you know? Uh... 732 00:55:25,209 --> 00:55:28,042 It was always hard for me and her to get close. 733 00:55:28,876 --> 00:55:30,667 She had lost a kid before. 734 00:55:31,918 --> 00:55:34,584 DR. BURTON: Before she was married to Glenn, 735 00:55:34,667 --> 00:55:36,834 she had a child, Bobby Joe, 736 00:55:36,918 --> 00:55:39,292 and it was taken away from her 737 00:55:39,375 --> 00:55:41,918 because of her misconduct. 738 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,918 And I think that had a profound effect on her 739 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,626 doing anything that would prevent her 740 00:55:53,209 --> 00:55:54,918 keeping Marty. 741 00:56:17,167 --> 00:56:18,459 (CAR APPROACHING) 742 00:56:23,459 --> 00:56:24,667 (CAR DOOR OPENS) 743 00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:47,667 (ENGINE STARTS) 744 00:57:12,876 --> 00:57:14,417 GLENN: 745 00:57:35,375 --> 00:57:36,792 (DOOR CREAKING) 746 00:57:52,334 --> 00:57:55,292 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 747 00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:05,834 (SNAKES RATTLING, HISSING) 748 00:58:12,584 --> 00:58:14,250 (RATTLING) 749 00:58:33,042 --> 00:58:35,876 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 750 00:58:50,459 --> 00:58:53,292 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 751 00:59:14,751 --> 00:59:16,959 DR. BURTON: 752 00:59:18,167 --> 00:59:20,751 GLENN: 753 00:59:23,292 --> 00:59:25,626 (PILLS RATTLING) 754 00:59:41,167 --> 00:59:42,292 (DOOR SLAMS) 755 00:59:42,375 --> 00:59:44,626 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 756 00:59:46,375 --> 00:59:48,375 (MARTY PANTING) 757 01:00:00,667 --> 01:00:02,792 ♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFIES) ♪ 758 01:00:06,918 --> 01:00:08,626 (DARLENE STRUGGLING) 759 01:00:11,292 --> 01:00:12,876 (DARLENE GASPS) 760 01:00:20,834 --> 01:00:21,876 (RETCHING) 761 01:00:24,334 --> 01:00:26,876 (COUGHING) 762 01:00:30,792 --> 01:00:32,000 GLENN: 763 01:00:32,083 --> 01:00:34,083 DR. BURTON: 764 01:00:35,626 --> 01:00:38,167 GLENN: 765 01:00:45,459 --> 01:00:47,876 DR. BURTON: 766 01:01:03,083 --> 01:01:05,792 (RATTLING) 767 01:01:09,792 --> 01:01:12,125 DR. BURTON: One way of looking at this whole thing 768 01:01:12,209 --> 01:01:15,250 is like in a witch trial in New England. 769 01:01:15,334 --> 01:01:19,375 If Darlene was bitten, that would prove that, uh, 770 01:01:19,459 --> 01:01:20,584 that she was guilty. 771 01:01:20,667 --> 01:01:23,500 If she handled the serpents and wasn't bitten, 772 01:01:23,584 --> 01:01:28,334 then it very likely would prove that she wasn't guilty. 773 01:01:28,417 --> 01:01:33,751 He would be using the serpent as divine verification. 774 01:01:35,209 --> 01:01:37,834 GLENN: 775 01:01:58,834 --> 01:02:01,083 DR. BURTON: The next morning, they get up 776 01:02:01,167 --> 01:02:05,209 and they go to return videos 777 01:02:05,292 --> 01:02:07,250 at the video shop. 778 01:02:07,626 --> 01:02:10,375 GLENN: 779 01:02:15,292 --> 01:02:16,626 (STORE BELL RINGING) 780 01:02:25,792 --> 01:02:27,417 (CAR ENGINE REVVING) 781 01:02:28,667 --> 01:02:31,417 DR. BURTON: 782 01:02:33,125 --> 01:02:35,125 GLENN: 783 01:03:23,459 --> 01:03:24,918 (SNORING) 784 01:03:36,709 --> 01:03:39,459 CLARENCE: There was a note that was found. 785 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,542 A suicide note. 786 01:03:43,417 --> 01:03:46,250 Seemed like it was written to the boy. 787 01:03:47,751 --> 01:03:50,042 (PENCIL SCRATCHING) 788 01:03:50,125 --> 01:03:52,792 TALITHA: "Marty, I love you. I love. 789 01:03:52,876 --> 01:03:56,167 Do what Daddy says. Daddy was asleep. 790 01:03:56,250 --> 01:03:59,876 I tried to fix everything, but it didn't work out. 791 01:03:59,959 --> 01:04:00,959 Don't blame Daddy 792 01:04:01,042 --> 01:04:03,334 because he loves me and trying to help me. 793 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,918 But I wouldn't listen. 794 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,959 Daddy's asleep and he don't know what I'm doing. 795 01:04:09,042 --> 01:04:11,792 Marty, always remember, I love you for the good, 796 01:04:11,876 --> 01:04:13,709 not the bad, but love you. 797 01:04:13,792 --> 01:04:15,751 Try to get right. Your mama. 798 01:04:16,584 --> 01:04:18,542 I went out and got snake bit. 799 01:04:18,626 --> 01:04:20,500 Glenn is asleep and don't know. 800 01:04:20,584 --> 01:04:22,959 You and Daddy live right, okay? 801 01:04:23,500 --> 01:04:24,834 I love you." 802 01:04:27,751 --> 01:04:29,000 "Question: 803 01:04:29,083 --> 01:04:31,876 Is it the note you wrote on that occasion?" 804 01:04:33,209 --> 01:04:35,209 "Answer: Yes." 805 01:04:35,292 --> 01:04:37,667 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 806 01:04:37,751 --> 01:04:39,751 (CRICKETS CHIRPING) 807 01:04:41,334 --> 01:04:44,667 THEO: Do you-- Do you remember the note that you left? 808 01:04:44,751 --> 01:04:47,000 DARLENE: Oh, yeah, that-- He made me write that note. 809 01:04:47,083 --> 01:04:49,042 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 810 01:05:03,626 --> 01:05:04,959 (COUGHS) 811 01:05:08,334 --> 01:05:09,500 (COUGHS) 812 01:05:23,667 --> 01:05:26,584 (SNORING) 813 01:05:29,292 --> 01:05:32,375 (DOOR CREAKS) 814 01:05:38,083 --> 01:05:39,959 DARLENE: 815 01:05:49,292 --> 01:05:51,125 (DEMON GROWLING) 816 01:05:57,542 --> 01:05:58,584 (YELPS) 817 01:06:10,709 --> 01:06:11,876 (DEMON SCREECHES) 818 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,209 Yep. 819 01:06:27,083 --> 01:06:28,083 (GLENN GRUNTS) 820 01:06:29,083 --> 01:06:30,167 DARLENE: 821 01:06:31,584 --> 01:06:32,709 (DARLENE YELLS) 822 01:06:34,417 --> 01:06:35,542 And... 823 01:06:37,125 --> 01:06:39,709 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 824 01:06:43,334 --> 01:06:46,250 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 825 01:06:46,334 --> 01:06:49,542 DR. BURTON: Nobody knows what really happened. 826 01:06:49,626 --> 01:06:53,709 We have what Glenn says happened, 827 01:06:53,792 --> 01:06:57,375 and we have what Darlene says that happened. 828 01:06:57,459 --> 01:06:59,751 There were no other witnesses 829 01:06:59,834 --> 01:07:02,500 that know what happened that night. 830 01:07:03,209 --> 01:07:05,584 Except maybe Marty. 831 01:07:08,959 --> 01:07:10,959 MARTY: Daddy tried hard to live for God. 832 01:07:11,584 --> 01:07:13,125 He tried real hard. 833 01:07:13,959 --> 01:07:15,083 And I always heard 834 01:07:15,167 --> 01:07:16,918 the harder you try to live for God, 835 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,250 the harder the devil will fight to keep you. 836 01:07:21,125 --> 01:07:23,083 I remember it. I was a kid. 837 01:07:23,167 --> 01:07:25,834 -I didn't want 'em fightin', you know? -(DARLENE GRUNTS) 838 01:07:25,918 --> 01:07:28,500 -MARTY: I didn't know what was really going on. -(GLASS SHATTERS) 839 01:07:28,584 --> 01:07:31,626 They'd been fighting and chasing one another around the yard. 840 01:07:32,876 --> 01:07:34,167 And I just walked up, and you know, 841 01:07:34,250 --> 01:07:35,834 it was the first thought that went through my head, 842 01:07:35,918 --> 01:07:37,792 I had a bow and arrow in my hand. 843 01:07:37,876 --> 01:07:40,083 I just whiz one by him. 844 01:07:41,542 --> 01:07:43,709 -(GUN COCKS) -(DOG BARKING) 845 01:07:45,209 --> 01:07:46,417 (ARROW WHOOSHES) 846 01:07:47,334 --> 01:07:49,918 (DOGS BARKING IN DISTANCE) 847 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,667 MARTY: I was tryin' to protect my mama, I thought. 848 01:07:56,500 --> 01:07:57,584 It's a scary thought 849 01:07:57,667 --> 01:07:59,292 thinking you could've killed your daddy, though. 850 01:08:00,792 --> 01:08:02,834 Uh, some things are best forgotten. 851 01:08:06,375 --> 01:08:09,209 So they called my brother-in-law and sister to come and get me. 852 01:08:15,918 --> 01:08:19,417 (RATTLING) 853 01:08:23,083 --> 01:08:24,292 (HISSES) 854 01:08:26,334 --> 01:08:27,500 DARLENE: 855 01:08:43,792 --> 01:08:46,375 DR. BURTON: The next morning, they get up, 856 01:08:46,459 --> 01:08:50,792 and they go to return the videos 857 01:08:50,876 --> 01:08:54,459 at the Lakeside Grocery and Video Shop. 858 01:08:54,542 --> 01:08:57,125 Darlene goes in to return the videos. 859 01:08:57,209 --> 01:08:59,375 (DARLENE BREATHING HEAVILY) 860 01:08:59,459 --> 01:09:01,751 DR. BURTON: And she says her hand is swollen 861 01:09:01,834 --> 01:09:03,542 at that point, somewhat. 862 01:09:05,209 --> 01:09:06,918 DARLENE: 863 01:09:24,083 --> 01:09:26,125 -(LAUGHS) -(DARLENE GASPS) 864 01:09:26,751 --> 01:09:28,667 SALLY JESSY RAPHAEL: 865 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,292 CHARLOTTE COLÓN: 866 01:09:49,584 --> 01:09:50,626 Right. 867 01:09:51,167 --> 01:09:53,209 (COUGHING) 868 01:09:53,292 --> 01:09:55,500 CLARENCE: Everybody says this is a cruel world. 869 01:09:55,584 --> 01:09:57,751 This isn't a cruel world. 870 01:09:57,834 --> 01:10:00,167 It's a lovely world, it's a good world. 871 01:10:01,250 --> 01:10:03,334 But the people that are in it, 872 01:10:04,292 --> 01:10:06,334 is what's making it cruel. 873 01:10:06,417 --> 01:10:10,667 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 874 01:10:12,542 --> 01:10:15,292 There was a point, uh, in the interviews 875 01:10:15,375 --> 01:10:18,125 that he was saying that he did not drink. 876 01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:21,417 He would say things like, "If I had been drunk, 877 01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,250 then there would have been a problem. 878 01:10:23,334 --> 01:10:26,292 I could have lost it, or gone off, 879 01:10:26,375 --> 01:10:29,959 and done some real serious damage or something." 880 01:10:30,042 --> 01:10:32,292 But I talked to several other people 881 01:10:32,375 --> 01:10:36,626 and they said he was obviously inebriated. 882 01:10:38,167 --> 01:10:39,792 (ON TAPE) 883 01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:09,417 (GUN COCKS) 884 01:11:28,083 --> 01:11:30,459 DWIGHT DUKE: It was supposed to be addressed to her son. 885 01:11:30,542 --> 01:11:33,042 It states about three different times 886 01:11:33,125 --> 01:11:36,083 that, "Daddy doesn't know about this." 887 01:11:36,167 --> 01:11:37,459 "Daddy loves us." 888 01:11:38,083 --> 01:11:39,125 Um, "Daddy's asleep 889 01:11:39,209 --> 01:11:41,542 and doesn't know that I'm doing this." 890 01:11:41,626 --> 01:11:43,542 "You and Daddy live right." 891 01:11:43,626 --> 01:11:47,209 And it just keeps not referring to her, 892 01:11:47,292 --> 01:11:49,709 but kept giving Glenn an alibi. 893 01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:57,667 (LAUGHS) 894 01:12:03,709 --> 01:12:04,709 (GUN COCKS) 895 01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:07,709 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 896 01:12:08,834 --> 01:12:10,000 GLENN: Come on! 897 01:12:10,459 --> 01:12:12,709 SALLY: 898 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,500 He grabbed me by the hair... 899 01:12:15,584 --> 01:12:16,667 (DARLENE GRUNTS) 900 01:12:21,167 --> 01:12:22,250 (SCREAMS) 901 01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:28,918 (RATTLING) 902 01:12:33,375 --> 01:12:34,918 -(GUN COCKS) -(HISSES) 903 01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:39,959 (GRUNTS, CRIES) 904 01:12:40,959 --> 01:12:43,834 (SOBBING) 905 01:12:45,792 --> 01:12:46,876 (SOBBING) Let go of me. 906 01:12:50,959 --> 01:12:52,500 (RATTLING) 907 01:12:52,584 --> 01:12:54,792 DARLENE: (SOBBING) No! No! 908 01:13:12,417 --> 01:13:13,459 (IMITATES STING) 909 01:13:18,375 --> 01:13:21,042 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 910 01:13:30,334 --> 01:13:31,751 (LAUGHS) 911 01:13:36,334 --> 01:13:39,000 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 912 01:13:44,417 --> 01:13:45,667 (GLENN SNORES) 913 01:13:48,626 --> 01:13:51,250 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 914 01:13:53,375 --> 01:13:55,375 (DARLENE PANTING) 915 01:14:16,042 --> 01:14:19,250 -(DISTANT BARKING) -(VEHICLE APPROACHING) 916 01:14:19,584 --> 01:14:21,792 DARLENE: 917 01:14:24,459 --> 01:14:27,626 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 918 01:14:34,125 --> 01:14:35,375 (DOOR SLAMS) 919 01:14:37,417 --> 01:14:38,626 (DARLENE CHUCKLES) 920 01:14:43,042 --> 01:14:46,459 (SIREN WAILING) 921 01:14:46,542 --> 01:14:50,083 DR. BURTON: The trial lasted only two and a half days 922 01:14:50,167 --> 01:14:54,167 and ended with Glenn being found guilty 923 01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:55,751 of attempted murder. 924 01:14:55,834 --> 01:14:58,459 He was a former two-time offender, 925 01:14:58,542 --> 01:15:03,918 and the judge had no recourse but to give him 99 years. 926 01:15:05,042 --> 01:15:07,042 REPORTER 5: The career of Glenn Summerford, 927 01:15:07,125 --> 01:15:09,542 Pentecostal minister, snake handler, 928 01:15:09,626 --> 01:15:12,584 and now convicted felon, is over. 929 01:15:12,667 --> 01:15:14,751 (SIGHS) I say, thank you, Lord. (CHUCKLES) 930 01:15:14,834 --> 01:15:17,709 I mean, that's all I can think of, you know, just... 931 01:15:19,042 --> 01:15:21,918 I know that he got it, you know, what he deserved. 932 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,125 REPORTER 5: With their minister headed from the pulpit to prison, 933 01:15:25,209 --> 01:15:28,250 many followers say the future of the Church of Jesus 934 01:15:28,334 --> 01:15:29,542 is in jeopardy. 935 01:15:29,626 --> 01:15:34,334 Others remain convinced Glenn Summerford isn't guilty. 936 01:15:45,459 --> 01:15:47,000 SALLY: All right, let me ask our psychologist. 937 01:15:47,083 --> 01:15:49,417 How does she deal with going back to her community, 938 01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:51,792 where the people believe the minister? 939 01:15:51,876 --> 01:15:53,542 There will be some who believe the minister 940 01:15:53,626 --> 01:15:54,792 and some who don't. 941 01:15:54,876 --> 01:15:57,042 I-- I think with great difficulty, 942 01:15:57,125 --> 01:15:58,792 because it's almost like a double abuse, 943 01:15:58,876 --> 01:16:00,417 you know, you're abused by the person 944 01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:01,876 and then when you go out in public 945 01:16:01,959 --> 01:16:03,417 and you're not believed, you're abused again. 946 01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:05,876 -I think it will take a lot of support. -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) 947 01:16:13,250 --> 01:16:14,626 DARLENE: 948 01:16:27,584 --> 01:16:29,709 (BIRDS SINGING) 949 01:16:30,459 --> 01:16:32,459 MARTY: I lost both my parents. 950 01:16:35,751 --> 01:16:37,709 I didn't get to live with neither one of 'em. 951 01:16:42,834 --> 01:16:46,500 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 952 01:16:51,209 --> 01:16:53,626 MARTY: It affected me a lot 'cause I really didn't know 953 01:16:53,709 --> 01:16:56,417 how to raise the kids, you know? Uh... 954 01:16:57,375 --> 01:16:58,959 I didn't have no experience. 955 01:16:59,959 --> 01:17:01,626 I got good kids, though. 956 01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:04,125 My kids are great. 957 01:17:04,209 --> 01:17:05,709 I really love 'em. 958 01:17:06,417 --> 01:17:08,000 I'd do anything for 'em. 959 01:17:09,209 --> 01:17:11,959 I tried not to be as tough as my dad. 960 01:17:12,042 --> 01:17:14,083 I wanna be a good father. 961 01:17:14,167 --> 01:17:16,918 Yeah, this is my daughter, Hayley, here's the, um... 962 01:17:17,751 --> 01:17:19,918 My little mini-me. 963 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,792 Yeah, I made sure they always had a mom and daddy, you know. 964 01:17:24,626 --> 01:17:28,417 I grew up on deer and dove and rabbit and squirrel 965 01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:30,209 and all that stuff, so... 966 01:17:30,292 --> 01:17:32,459 MARTY: Country as cornbread, I guess. 967 01:17:32,542 --> 01:17:34,959 I guess we was kinda made for one another. 968 01:17:38,209 --> 01:17:40,334 HEATHER SUMMERFORD: We fought hard to have what we have now. 969 01:17:40,417 --> 01:17:41,417 MARTY: Yeah. 970 01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:43,542 HEATHER: And last week we was married 20. 971 01:17:43,626 --> 01:17:45,334 MARTY: I don't know why she's crazy about me, 972 01:17:45,417 --> 01:17:46,834 but she is. 973 01:17:48,250 --> 01:17:51,000 I always been kinda crazy about her, I reckon. 974 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,918 I look back at it now and it's like, 975 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,125 if I'd stayed there, 976 01:17:57,209 --> 01:17:59,542 then ain't no tellin' where I'd be right now. 977 01:18:01,542 --> 01:18:03,584 I never really been a real religious man, 978 01:18:03,667 --> 01:18:05,500 but I got family. 979 01:18:06,125 --> 01:18:07,667 That's all I need. 980 01:18:13,292 --> 01:18:15,709 THEO: Do you think we believe what we want to believe? 981 01:18:17,584 --> 01:18:19,542 It might be the other way around. 982 01:18:21,250 --> 01:18:24,250 We believe things whether we want to or not. 983 01:18:26,292 --> 01:18:29,375 In one of those services that I had gone to earlier, 984 01:18:29,459 --> 01:18:32,334 the preacher came back in a service 985 01:18:32,417 --> 01:18:34,584 and anointed me with oil. 986 01:18:34,667 --> 01:18:37,918 And I kind of wanted to feel, at that point, 987 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,459 the infusion of the Spirit, you know? 988 01:18:41,542 --> 01:18:43,584 Have a real... 989 01:18:43,667 --> 01:18:48,292 real spiritual experience, you know. 990 01:18:48,375 --> 01:18:50,626 But nothing happened. (CHUCKLES) 991 01:18:52,626 --> 01:18:54,125 We may want to believe, 992 01:18:54,209 --> 01:18:57,417 and it would be nice to have an experience 993 01:18:57,500 --> 01:19:00,584 like Glenn, but I never got that. 994 01:19:01,459 --> 01:19:04,167 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 995 01:19:05,459 --> 01:19:08,042 DARLENE: 996 01:19:11,209 --> 01:19:13,292 THEO: 997 01:19:13,375 --> 01:19:14,792 DARLENE: 998 01:19:18,250 --> 01:19:21,042 -♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(INDISTINCT WHISPERING) 999 01:19:23,709 --> 01:19:27,500 ♪ (SOMBER PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1000 01:19:29,375 --> 01:19:32,417 DR. BURTON: Glenn believes in the providence of God. 1001 01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:35,542 If God wants him to be left in prison, 1002 01:19:35,626 --> 01:19:37,292 then he'll be left in there. 1003 01:19:37,375 --> 01:19:42,042 If He wants him out, then that will be provided. 1004 01:19:44,542 --> 01:19:47,834 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1005 01:19:47,918 --> 01:19:49,584 The last time I saw him 1006 01:19:49,667 --> 01:19:51,209 was before the escape. 1007 01:19:51,292 --> 01:19:54,250 -(DOGS BARKING) -(MEN SHOUTING DISTANTLY) 1008 01:19:56,876 --> 01:20:00,042 DR. BURTON: The whole story of Glenn Summerford 1009 01:20:00,125 --> 01:20:03,042 has become Appalachian folklore 1010 01:20:03,125 --> 01:20:05,584 just like some of the scriptures. 1011 01:20:07,959 --> 01:20:11,709 The name "Pentecostal" comes from a verse in Acts 1012 01:20:11,792 --> 01:20:15,709 in the second chapter, the day of Pentecost. 1013 01:20:18,959 --> 01:20:24,209 The scripture says, "There was a loud noise 1014 01:20:24,292 --> 01:20:27,042 like a great thunder. 1015 01:20:27,125 --> 01:20:32,375 And then cloven tongues, like as of fire, 1016 01:20:33,584 --> 01:20:38,667 descended and sat on them. 1017 01:20:38,751 --> 01:20:44,334 And they were filled with the Holy Spirit." 1018 01:20:44,417 --> 01:20:47,542 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1019 01:20:49,167 --> 01:20:52,250 (CRICKETS CHIRPING) 1020 01:20:56,584 --> 01:20:58,125 (WATER LAPPING) 1021 01:21:31,792 --> 01:21:32,959 GLENN: Mm-hmm. 1022 01:21:36,626 --> 01:21:38,584 (FIRE CRACKLING) 1023 01:21:40,292 --> 01:21:44,292 ♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFIES) ♪ 1024 01:21:48,125 --> 01:21:50,959 (VOICES WHISPERING) 1025 01:21:56,375 --> 01:21:59,167 (WHISPERING CONTINUES) 1026 01:22:15,083 --> 01:22:16,834 (DOGS BARKING) 1027 01:22:18,125 --> 01:22:20,834 (SIREN WAILS) 1028 01:22:20,918 --> 01:22:23,959 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1029 01:23:22,375 --> 01:23:26,500 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1030 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,876 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪