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The 2000 election
was a street brawl

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for the presidency
of the United States.

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What happened in Miami
changed this country, forever.

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While Democrats wanted
to do the right thing,

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Republicans wanted to win.

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The election was lost
in many different places.

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But it was stolen in Miami.

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...Branch One or Battalion 44.

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Get ahold of OES there
at the command post

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and let's push it
all the way out

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to the edge of the city
of Ventura.

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Take a look at this.
It has exploded into 500 acres.

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These high winds,
not so good with the helicopter.

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We're working our way
over there,

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but we can tell you

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that this is burning very close
to Santa Paula.

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It's right off the 126
and the 150.

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The 150 is actually the road
that takes you to Ojai.

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Just wanna make sure
you're aware of the fire.

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It's moving at
a rapid rate of spread.

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There's
Thomas Aquinas University
that's in that area.

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That's where
it's getting the name.

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Now, there are plenty of homes
in this area as well.

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If they are not evacuating,
they will be told to.

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Obviously, life foremost,
property second.

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-I'm in a bad spot, ooh.
- As we understood it

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listening to
some scanner traffic,

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they could not get
enough resources

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to this fire fast enough.

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There's helicopters in the air,

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there's ground crews
on the ground,

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but the high winds this evening,

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along with the dry temperatures,

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has made this into a huge fire,
and these flames continue

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just to gobble up acreage
out here

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and keep moving out
to the west.

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What are you making?

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NOÉMIE DUMONT MILANO:
I'm making a cheese-slash-potato
French dish...

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that I'm gonna make my husband
for the first time tonight,

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on the 3rd of December.

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Go.

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We met in San Francisco.

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We fell in love and got married.

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When I was around
five months pregnant,

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we decided to explore California

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in the hope
to find the right place

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to raise our little girl.

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As we learned
more and more about California,

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people kept telling us about
this special place called Ojai.

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There is a place

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that everybody finds
in this valley

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that is home to them.

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I grew up here
in the Ojai Valley.

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"Ojai" is a Chumash word,
and it's a village

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that's up here
in this upper valley.

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And it means "moon"
or "lunar phase."

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So when you're up here
and the moon comes up,

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it's as if you could touch it.

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NOÉMIE: We just fell in love
with the weather,

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the flower, the smells,
and the animals.

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Maé was born
two months prematurely

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and, uh, when we move to Ojai,
she was not even two months old.

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The size of a tiny
little human being.

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So as a new mom,

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this move across California
was pretty rough on me.

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We moved here
about a month before the fire.

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A house directly on the edge

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of the Los Padres
National Forest.

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High wind advisories
have all been upgraded
to all-out warnings

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as the dangerous Santa Ana winds
are blowing big time.

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NOÉMIE: Uh, I remember
telling myself,

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"What's going on
with this wind?"

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I went outside, I was like,

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"This is not normal."

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I just had a feeling.

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I knew that something bad
was gonna happen.

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-911 OPERATOR: Fire paramedics.

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We were just sitting
out on the front porch

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and I noticed, uh,
an orange glow and smoke.

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It's really blowing up now.

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We have a fire.
We are in a house here

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at Anlauf Canyon Road
above Steckel Park.

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911 OPERATOR:
Is your structure threatened?

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Yes, it is.

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The first engine that arrived

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was from Upper Ojai.

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The fire captain got in

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and he said, "Look,
it's in Anlauf Canyon,

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but we can't access it yet."

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It was a total envelopment

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of Anlauf Canyon in flames,

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50 acres of hell.

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Basically, we had
about 30 engines ordered

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in the first 10 minutes.

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Has anyone reported a fire?

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911 OPERATOR: Yes, ma'am. It was
Saint Thomas Aquinas College,

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that's--
that's where it started.

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We're almost next to them.

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-What should we do?
-911 OPERATOR: Yes, ma'am.

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You do what you feel is best.

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For the Highway 150 corridors,

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we move into Santa Paula
for immediate evacuation

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of approximately
500 residences.

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Sheriff's office!

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-Fire!
-911 OPERATOR: Fire paramedics.

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We're on Wheeler Canyon Road,

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and there's no fire engines here

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for structure protection
or anything,

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and the fire is coming down
the mountain right now.

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This area has to be
evacuated right now.

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I'm not kidding around!

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Winds
on the ridgetop probably...

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-...it's 40 to 50 miles an hour.

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Active long-range spotting.

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Where are the fire department?

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911 OPERATOR:
They're all there, ma'am.

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-They're all there.
- No, they're not!

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We're surrounded by fire
and we can't get out.

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-We have no help!

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My mom's stuck
in the fire down there,

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and she can't get out.
She's with my brother.

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The tree right above my house.

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And there's embers.
Oh my God, it's starting to go.

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I'm at home alone,
and I can see the flames

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-coming over the next canyon.
-911 OPERATOR: Yes.

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And I don't know what
to do. I can hear the crackling.

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There was just
fire absolutely everywhere.

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It was getting so bad,
I couldn't breathe,

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I couldn't see much more
than an arm's length,

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and as we were driving out, uh,

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the fire was pinching off
and we barely made it out.

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Go! Let's go!

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And it hopscotched
from canyon to canyon to canyon

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and moved, in a matter
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what it would probably
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to accomplish on a normal day
without the wind.

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Residents north of Foothill,

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-evacuate your home.

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While all this was taking place,
a new fire started.

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A transformer just blew up,

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and, uh, it's going pretty good.

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Very end of Koenigstein,

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there's, uh--
A transformer just blew, and--

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and there's a major fire
started up here.

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That new fire
started in Upper Ojai.

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We were being hit
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As priorities came through
for the Koenigstein Road area,

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the fire apparatus
was quickly cut off

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from traveling
the Highway 150 corridor.

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We had burning power poles,

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we had live electrical lines
down across the highway.

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And that main thoroughfare
that got companies

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up to Upper Ojai quick
was immediately cut off.

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NOÉMIE:
It was exactly 8:00 p.m.

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and I was very, very excited

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because for the first time,
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to just put her in bed
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My excitement faded pretty fast

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because right after that,

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I started to hear
sounds of helicopters.

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We put all of the aircraft

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up in the Koenigstein Road area,

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but the water that you drop
is just being taken by the wind.

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The aircraft called Operations
on the radio and say,

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"It's unsafe for us
to be up in the air.

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We're shutting down."

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As it was rapidly escalating,

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the potential for loss of life

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was greater than anything
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NOÉMIE:
When I went outside the house,

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I saw this gigantic glow
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And I decided to check
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and I just read,
"There is a fire...

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two miles from your house

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with 70-miles-per-hour gusts."

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I remember telling my husband,
"We gotta go now."

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I woke up the baby,
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-put her in the car.

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NOÉMIE: I run back
inside the house and...

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...the baby starts screaming,
and I turn

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and I could see
this insane, scary glow...

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that was coming right at us.

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We drove down
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and spent the night
watching the news.

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The Thomas Fire
in Ventura County

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forced new evacuations
overnight.

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It is the largest
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and it's only five percent
contained.

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Now, winds
are actually carrying the fire

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toward Ojai.

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We saw a wall of flames
that had to have been

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300 feet or higher.

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We've been hearing
the sparks and loud booms

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from transformers
that have caught fire

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and they blasted off.

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Uh, have 'em
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on Highway 126.
It's at the Aquatic Center

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is what we're being told
for the nighttime spot.

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I hear the screaming.

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"You need to evacuate!
You need to evacuate!

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Search and rescue."

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He says, "Sweetheart,

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the fire is right there
in Bill's yard.

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You have to get out of here."

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I see the fire in that canyon,

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and I don't wanna leave

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because I spended a lot of time
to build my house.

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And then all of a sudden,
the wall of flame came over.

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Then I looked to the left,

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and the flames are coming
up the valley.

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Then I looked behind me,

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and the fire
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so virtually surrounded.

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When I got to the perimeter
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I could see
that my neighbor's house...

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was completely on fire.

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I've seen a lot of fires
in the Australian Outback

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and in surrounding suburbs
and around the cities,

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but I'd never seen it move
this fast.

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We're alive. And, uh...

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You go on.

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Now we have five fire fronts.

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We're still dealing
with Santa Paula,

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Fillmore, Upper Ojai,

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and now the topography drives
this dry weather

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and the wind is even stronger,

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and now it starts moving
around Ojai,

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and you're getting an idea now
how this is a monster.

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NOÉMIE: We were
in the hotel room in shock.

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And in the morning,

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when my husband went
to get coffee,

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one of our neighbor
in the lobby said

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that he personally witnessed
our house

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being attacked by flames.

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As this news try to sink in,

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someone knocked crazy
and just yelled,

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"Get out, get out,
evacuation again."

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I mean, everything is on fire.

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I was extremely scared...

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because we were new to the area.

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I just didn't know
what was the best escape plan.

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Oh, my God,
are we driving right at it?

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It's okay,
this is turning away from it.

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NOÉMIE: No, I don't think so.

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These people are just looking.

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NOÉMIE: Oh, my God.

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We escaped north
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towards Santa Barbara.

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00:14:34.917 --> 00:14:37.542
The fire got to our house
so fast the night before

252
00:14:37.625 --> 00:14:39.709
that we didn't have time
to pack anything.

253
00:14:39.792 --> 00:14:41.250
We just ran out,

254
00:14:41.333 --> 00:14:44.291
and, uh, we didn't know
what was gonna happen next.

255
00:14:45.792 --> 00:14:47.208
Going into the weekend,

256
00:14:47.291 --> 00:14:50.500
red flag warnings are saturating
much of the state.

257
00:14:50.583 --> 00:14:52.125
The Thomas Fire is larger

258
00:14:52.208 --> 00:14:55.125
than New York City
and Boston combined.

259
00:14:56.375 --> 00:14:57.542
As we're listening

260
00:14:57.625 --> 00:14:59.875
to how it's just raging
towards us

261
00:14:59.959 --> 00:15:02.208
down on the west end
of the Ojai Valley,

262
00:15:02.291 --> 00:15:04.000
we started thinking
about the things

263
00:15:04.083 --> 00:15:06.500
that we needed to gather.

264
00:15:07.458 --> 00:15:08.875
We had seven cats,

265
00:15:08.959 --> 00:15:12.333
three dogs, two ratties,
and two birds

266
00:15:12.417 --> 00:15:14.000
to travel with five of us.

267
00:15:14.083 --> 00:15:17.458
We took two vehicles,
and we drove to Santa Barbara.

268
00:15:20.041 --> 00:15:21.625
As of Saturday afternoon,

269
00:15:21.709 --> 00:15:24.750
8,400 firefighters
working on this fire.

270
00:15:24.834 --> 00:15:27.709
Already we've seen
1,000 structures destroyed,

271
00:15:27.792 --> 00:15:30.333
18,000 structures threatened.

272
00:15:31.667 --> 00:15:35.041
NOÉMIE:

273
00:15:52.792 --> 00:15:54.917
NOÉMIE:
On our wedding anniversary,

274
00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:56.792
we decided to drive back.

275
00:15:56.875 --> 00:15:59.417
It was... apocalyptic.

276
00:16:01.458 --> 00:16:04.583
When we finally turn
into our street,

277
00:16:04.667 --> 00:16:07.000
um, I was shocked.

278
00:16:08.375 --> 00:16:12.667
All those houses, so many,
they were just gone.

279
00:16:17.125 --> 00:16:19.792
When we finally arrived
to our house,

280
00:16:19.875 --> 00:16:21.458
I couldn't believe it.

281
00:16:21.542 --> 00:16:24.834
After thinking
that your house is gone,

282
00:16:24.917 --> 00:16:27.792
this feeling of knowing
that it's still there

283
00:16:27.875 --> 00:16:31.500
is just amazing,
but at the same time,

284
00:16:31.583 --> 00:16:35.917
I just felt so sorry
for all my neighbors.

285
00:16:45.041 --> 00:16:47.333
We got really, really lucky.

286
00:16:47.417 --> 00:16:49.959
Because our house
is the last house

287
00:16:50.041 --> 00:16:51.583
just before the national forest,

288
00:16:51.667 --> 00:16:53.750
the last fire hydrant
on the street

289
00:16:53.834 --> 00:16:57.041
is actually right here,
which made it an ideal place

290
00:16:57.125 --> 00:16:59.291
for the firefighters
to battle the blaze.

291
00:16:59.375 --> 00:17:03.291
They were literally firing
their hoses over the house

292
00:17:03.375 --> 00:17:06.458
as the fire
blew over here.

293
00:17:08.125 --> 00:17:11.709
NOÉMIE: Some of my neighbors
just were not that lucky.

294
00:17:12.959 --> 00:17:15.583
The people of
the Upper Ojai suffered greatly,

295
00:17:15.667 --> 00:17:18.583
due, in part,
to the second start

296
00:17:18.667 --> 00:17:20.458
up in the Koenigstein area.

297
00:17:20.542 --> 00:17:21.750
It started right here.

298
00:17:21.834 --> 00:17:23.583
I remember coming up here,
and we were already evacuate--

299
00:17:23.667 --> 00:17:26.083
trying to evacuate, uh,
some of these residents up here,

300
00:17:26.166 --> 00:17:27.917
and we looked at it,
we go, "Wow.

301
00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.041
We know where it's going."

302
00:17:29.125 --> 00:17:30.583
It's going right toward
your house, basically,

303
00:17:30.667 --> 00:17:31.959
and everyone else's house
down there.

304
00:17:32.041 --> 00:17:33.500
So the whole team is en route.

305
00:17:33.583 --> 00:17:35.208
Mark Scantlin,
we went to school together.

306
00:17:35.291 --> 00:17:36.792
Oh, gosh,
Mark, yes. How are you?

307
00:17:36.875 --> 00:17:38.125
I'm doing all right, John.

308
00:17:38.208 --> 00:17:39.709
-Were you
up here that night?
-Yeah.

309
00:17:39.792 --> 00:17:42.041
-How'd it go for you?
-Oh, I lost everything.

310
00:17:42.125 --> 00:17:43.375
-Oh, man.

311
00:17:43.458 --> 00:17:44.875
-Everything. House--
-Yeah.

312
00:17:44.959 --> 00:17:47.917
House, garage, barns, cars.

313
00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:50.542
-Yeah.
-Looked like a tornado
after it went by.

314
00:17:50.625 --> 00:17:52.166
I hope the future's bright.

315
00:17:52.250 --> 00:17:53.375
-We're moving.
-Are ya?

316
00:17:53.458 --> 00:17:55.250
-Yeah. Yeah.
-Out of the area, or what?

317
00:17:55.333 --> 00:17:56.625
Yeah, I'm done.

318
00:18:01.291 --> 00:18:05.417
The Thomas Fire
currently is at 242,000 acres.

319
00:18:05.500 --> 00:18:07.000
It's been burning for 10 days.

320
00:18:07.083 --> 00:18:09.750
It ran through
to the western edge

321
00:18:09.834 --> 00:18:11.500
of the City of Ventura
in five hours.

322
00:18:13.166 --> 00:18:16.583
We evacuated in this area,
I think the estimate's around

323
00:18:16.667 --> 00:18:19.250
60,000 people
in that five-hour period.

324
00:18:19.333 --> 00:18:21.250
The first fire started
in the creek bed.

325
00:18:21.333 --> 00:18:23.417
Within an hour of that,
we get information

326
00:18:23.500 --> 00:18:26.125
that we have a second start
on Koenigstein Road.

327
00:18:26.208 --> 00:18:28.208
You couldn't start a fire
in a worse spot.

328
00:18:28.291 --> 00:18:31.417
We were watching it from up
on the other side of the road.

329
00:18:31.500 --> 00:18:32.583
We saw it start,

330
00:18:32.667 --> 00:18:36.000
we saw you guys lined up,
and we saw you guys leave,

331
00:18:36.083 --> 00:18:37.458
and then it came our way.

332
00:18:37.542 --> 00:18:39.750
-We couldn't get out
fast enough.
- Hmm.

333
00:18:39.834 --> 00:18:41.917
Why weren't you fighting
that fire when that--

334
00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:42.959
when it just started,

335
00:18:43.041 --> 00:18:44.417
when it was just local,
right there?

336
00:18:44.500 --> 00:18:46.333
-We have-- Hold on. Wait.
- Another question.

337
00:18:46.417 --> 00:18:48.959
-Let-- let me finish. Hold on.
- You're charging
an extra tax to us.

338
00:18:49.041 --> 00:18:51.959
-So, hey, we have a--
-And you're requiring us
to have hydrants,

339
00:18:52.041 --> 00:18:53.917
but you won't use them?
I don't understand that.

340
00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.583
One hose would have
reached my house

341
00:18:56.667 --> 00:18:59.125
and put it out
and saved five more

342
00:18:59.208 --> 00:19:01.709
from burning down on Cesar.
One hose.

343
00:19:01.792 --> 00:19:03.500
Not to downplay
any of the losses,

344
00:19:03.583 --> 00:19:06.375
but to not have more life loss
is pretty remarkable.

345
00:19:06.458 --> 00:19:08.959
And this is the third time
I've been wearing this
this year.

346
00:19:09.041 --> 00:19:10.417
How many homes did you save?

347
00:19:10.500 --> 00:19:12.458
More than we lost,
I'll tell you that.

348
00:19:12.542 --> 00:19:15.333
The numbers that I'm getting
on the property loss

349
00:19:15.417 --> 00:19:19.458
is somewhere around 100,
uh, structures in this area.

350
00:19:19.542 --> 00:19:21.333
Per capita,
that's the highest loss

351
00:19:21.417 --> 00:19:23.208
we've had on a fire. Um...

352
00:19:24.417 --> 00:19:27.083
That's-- that's a tough
discussion to have.

353
00:19:34.917 --> 00:19:38.834
I lost my home
from the Thomas Fire.

354
00:19:38.917 --> 00:19:44.500
And, uh, it take me 13 years
to build my beautiful house.

355
00:19:44.583 --> 00:19:46.291
And I-- my son told me,

356
00:19:46.375 --> 00:19:49.959
"Daddy, could you please
save the house?"

357
00:19:51.750 --> 00:19:54.417
And I said,
"Yes. I will save the house."

358
00:19:58.750 --> 00:20:01.041
My daughter
who lives in Santa Paula,

359
00:20:01.125 --> 00:20:05.291
she called me and she says,
"Mom, our house is gone."

360
00:20:07.917 --> 00:20:09.291
And when I saw it...

361
00:20:11.125 --> 00:20:13.125
it was devastating.

362
00:20:14.875 --> 00:20:16.500
I still can't believe it.

363
00:20:18.834 --> 00:20:21.250
E-- Even though
I'm sitting here...

364
00:20:22.125 --> 00:20:23.500
with my back to it.

365
00:20:29.125 --> 00:20:30.333
And my cats...

366
00:20:31.834 --> 00:20:33.083
didn't live.

367
00:20:41.750 --> 00:20:43.208
We just
spray-painted some signs

368
00:20:43.291 --> 00:20:45.792
on pieces of plywood
that said, "Fire relief."

369
00:20:45.875 --> 00:20:48.000
And the supplies kept coming in.

370
00:20:49.208 --> 00:20:52.333
That's how the relief station
was born.

371
00:20:56.917 --> 00:21:00.625
Leona Mote says,
"I live right here on this road,

372
00:21:01.500 --> 00:21:04.041
and I've lived there
for 54 years.

373
00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:08.166
And my husband
just died in October.

374
00:21:08.250 --> 00:21:10.750
And when the fire came,
I was panicking,

375
00:21:10.834 --> 00:21:13.375
looking for my cats."

376
00:21:13.458 --> 00:21:16.125
And I say, "Hey, Leona,
do you need any help?"

377
00:21:16.667 --> 00:21:17.750
She says, "Yeah.

378
00:21:17.834 --> 00:21:19.291
One of the things
that was sitting on my dresser

379
00:21:19.375 --> 00:21:22.041
was my husband's size 13
wedding ring."

380
00:21:26.667 --> 00:21:30.291
First thing we find,
size 13 wedding ring.

381
00:21:30.375 --> 00:21:31.709
Swear to God.

382
00:21:32.625 --> 00:21:35.166
The first thing
that the sifters found

383
00:21:35.250 --> 00:21:38.375
was this ring and another ring.

384
00:21:38.458 --> 00:21:41.875
I love the way the neighborhood
has rallied around.

385
00:21:47.709 --> 00:21:50.583
It's called Star Point Ranch.

386
00:21:50.667 --> 00:21:53.250
We're grateful that,
uh, we got this help

387
00:21:53.333 --> 00:21:54.750
to help clean up
a bit of the mess.

388
00:21:54.834 --> 00:21:57.125
'Cause as you can see,
it's quite devastating

389
00:21:57.208 --> 00:22:00.500
to lose a beautiful
1930s wooden home

390
00:22:00.583 --> 00:22:02.208
and all your belongings.

391
00:22:02.291 --> 00:22:04.417
And we saved bugger all,
you know what I mean?

392
00:22:04.500 --> 00:22:06.458
So nothing, and virtually
the clothes on our back,

393
00:22:06.542 --> 00:22:07.583
basically.

394
00:22:12.458 --> 00:22:14.208
After the fire,

395
00:22:14.291 --> 00:22:16.709
it looked like
we had been through hell.

396
00:22:16.792 --> 00:22:18.917
We couldn't breathe,
and we couldn't drink the water,

397
00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:20.834
and we c--
we had to wear masks.

398
00:22:20.917 --> 00:22:22.125
And it was like,

399
00:22:22.208 --> 00:22:24.917
"Are we gonna be able
to live here?"

400
00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:26.709
NOÉMIE: The air quality
was just so bad

401
00:22:26.792 --> 00:22:30.166
that we just couldn't risk
to bring our baby back

402
00:22:30.250 --> 00:22:31.959
before it got better.

403
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.875
The air quality
and the conditions

404
00:22:34.959 --> 00:22:37.750
in Ojai Valley were untenable
by most people.

405
00:22:37.834 --> 00:22:41.000
There's a lot more going on
than the fire itself.

406
00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:55.208
Oh, don't try to walk, buddy.

407
00:22:59.667 --> 00:23:01.041
So, it just happens to be

408
00:23:01.125 --> 00:23:03.458
that this upper valley
is a place

409
00:23:03.542 --> 00:23:08.417
where the people considered bear
to be their spirit animal.

410
00:23:09.959 --> 00:23:14.750
That poor little bear that--
that survived the dehydration,

411
00:23:14.834 --> 00:23:18.166
it must have suffered
the burning of its feet.

412
00:23:18.250 --> 00:23:20.083
Great resilience.

413
00:23:25.291 --> 00:23:28.542
The power and the spirit
of these animals,

414
00:23:28.625 --> 00:23:30.041
even the smallest little ones,

415
00:23:30.125 --> 00:23:32.208
hummingbird, butterfly,

416
00:23:32.291 --> 00:23:38.709
they all have abilities that,
as human beings, we want.

417
00:23:38.792 --> 00:23:40.792
Oh, it's coming,
it's coming.

418
00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:46.291
And so to see it
suffer that way,

419
00:23:47.583 --> 00:23:49.917
I could just feel his grief

420
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:51.625
and total sorrow.

421
00:23:54.333 --> 00:23:56.250
Oh, he's thirsty as hell.

422
00:23:56.333 --> 00:23:57.667
And then to think about

423
00:23:57.750 --> 00:23:59.792
how many other animals
perished...

424
00:23:59.875 --> 00:24:01.709
Here, pal.
Little bit more.

425
00:24:01.792 --> 00:24:03.333
One second, one second.

426
00:24:29.542 --> 00:24:33.250
Let's do 1.5 of Telazol
and 1.5 of water.

427
00:24:33.333 --> 00:24:35.208
You can't overdose a bear
on Telazol,

428
00:24:35.291 --> 00:24:36.667
so that's the good thing.

429
00:24:37.625 --> 00:24:39.291
Just don't hit its lung.

430
00:24:39.375 --> 00:24:41.208
No,
I got a front right shoulder.

431
00:24:41.291 --> 00:24:42.917
-You guys ready?
- Yeah.

432
00:24:52.333 --> 00:24:54.458
-Clean hit.
- Good shot.

433
00:24:54.542 --> 00:24:56.458
So,
it was just like the last bear.

434
00:24:56.542 --> 00:24:58.083
The animal had to be immobilized

435
00:24:58.166 --> 00:24:59.750
so it could be assessed
for further injuries

436
00:24:59.834 --> 00:25:01.041
to see if, you know,

437
00:25:01.125 --> 00:25:03.834
rehabilitation is something
that we can do.

438
00:25:03.917 --> 00:25:05.125
What's the weight estimate now?

439
00:25:05.208 --> 00:25:07.166
- Now, about 30.
-Yeah.

440
00:25:07.250 --> 00:25:09.333
- It's a he.
-It's a he, yeah.

441
00:25:09.417 --> 00:25:11.417
- Okay.
-All right.

442
00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:14.333
Can you tell me sort of
about the scale of this event

443
00:25:14.417 --> 00:25:16.500
in terms of its effect
on the wildlife?

444
00:25:16.583 --> 00:25:17.834
It's gonna be significant,

445
00:25:17.917 --> 00:25:19.458
especially of a fire
of this magnitude,

446
00:25:19.542 --> 00:25:22.417
you know, raging through
the Los Padres National Forest

447
00:25:22.500 --> 00:25:24.500
as well as up
into the urban community.

448
00:25:24.583 --> 00:25:26.083
And anytime you have wildlife,

449
00:25:26.166 --> 00:25:28.208
just like people living at homes
where they're affected,

450
00:25:28.291 --> 00:25:30.625
you're gonna have wildlife
that's impacted.

451
00:25:33.583 --> 00:25:35.166
It was a really devastating time

452
00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:37.625
for the natural world out here.

453
00:25:37.709 --> 00:25:40.667
But it isn't our first time
that we've experienced fire

454
00:25:40.750 --> 00:25:42.458
growing up here in Ojai.

455
00:25:50.875 --> 00:25:53.208
Evacuation is now taking place.

456
00:25:53.291 --> 00:25:55.458
Three quarters of the town
has been wiped out,

457
00:25:55.542 --> 00:25:56.792
Blackened waste.

458
00:25:58.125 --> 00:26:00.625
Entire communities
to be evacuated.

459
00:26:04.458 --> 00:26:08.125
The president today proclaimed
the fires a national disaster.

460
00:26:10.917 --> 00:26:12.875
We can't keep doing
what we've been doing.

461
00:26:12.959 --> 00:26:15.875
And what we've been doing
is not considering,

462
00:26:15.959 --> 00:26:17.917
"Well, this is a fire corridor.

463
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.208
We know that.
We have to rethink things."

464
00:26:21.291 --> 00:26:23.083
You see something
on that side over there?

465
00:26:23.166 --> 00:26:24.083
Yeah.

466
00:26:24.166 --> 00:26:25.875
That means people may not
be able to build

467
00:26:25.959 --> 00:26:29.208
in places they wanted to build,
and if they do build,

468
00:26:29.291 --> 00:26:30.542
they need to recognize

469
00:26:30.625 --> 00:26:33.959
the fire department's not gonna
be able to protect them.

470
00:26:34.041 --> 00:26:37.083
And the fire agencies
in these firestorms

471
00:26:37.166 --> 00:26:40.125
are basically at wits' end,
and all they can do

472
00:26:40.208 --> 00:26:42.834
is try to keep people safe
and get them out of the way.

473
00:26:42.917 --> 00:26:45.542
Okay, sir.
Keep your arms in for me.

474
00:26:45.625 --> 00:26:50.000
Sadly, through lack
of understanding of nature

475
00:26:50.083 --> 00:26:52.750
and understanding
this fire ecology,

476
00:26:52.834 --> 00:26:55.583
we have allowed houses
to be built

477
00:26:55.667 --> 00:26:59.583
further and further into
the urban wildland interface

478
00:26:59.667 --> 00:27:02.083
right on the edge
between the chaparral

479
00:27:02.166 --> 00:27:03.917
-and the urban areas.

480
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.291
The areas that are
very difficult to defend.

481
00:27:12.166 --> 00:27:14.375
JONATHAN "YONNI" SCHWARTZ:
Well, the fire comes and goes,

482
00:27:14.458 --> 00:27:17.250
but for the vegetation
to reestablish itself,

483
00:27:17.333 --> 00:27:19.000
it takes a few years.

484
00:27:20.333 --> 00:27:24.709
Now, concern was
how this burned landscape

485
00:27:24.792 --> 00:27:28.458
is going to respond
to rainstorms.

486
00:27:38.875 --> 00:27:40.417
Equally as scary to the fire

487
00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:44.208
is the risk of a mudslide
or some sort of debris flow.

488
00:27:46.709 --> 00:27:48.250
During the 1969 flood,

489
00:27:48.333 --> 00:27:50.667
there was actually a family
living right here

490
00:27:50.750 --> 00:27:52.041
that got washed out

491
00:27:52.125 --> 00:27:55.125
by the amount of water
that comes off this hillside.

492
00:27:57.709 --> 00:28:00.667
We were able to move back in
about a month after the fire,

493
00:28:00.750 --> 00:28:03.458
just in time for the biggest
rainstorm in years.

494
00:28:04.542 --> 00:28:06.625
I started digging
some trenches out back

495
00:28:06.709 --> 00:28:08.291
to protect our house.

496
00:28:08.375 --> 00:28:11.083
A cold front
and a squall line with lightning

497
00:28:11.166 --> 00:28:13.959
is developing and moving
into the Los Angeles area.

498
00:28:14.041 --> 00:28:16.834
The National Weather Service
has warned that flash flooding,

499
00:28:16.917 --> 00:28:19.333
debris flow,
and mudslides are possible

500
00:28:19.417 --> 00:28:21.417
in the communities
already devastated

501
00:28:21.500 --> 00:28:23.917
by the Thomas and La Tuna Fires.

502
00:28:29.959 --> 00:28:32.875
Mandatory evacuation
orders are in place here.

503
00:28:32.959 --> 00:28:36.375
Thirty thousand people
are in these evacuation zones.

504
00:28:36.458 --> 00:28:40.250
Many of these slopes
right above Ojai

505
00:28:40.333 --> 00:28:43.959
have very high probabilities

506
00:28:44.041 --> 00:28:46.417
of producing debris flows.

507
00:28:48.875 --> 00:28:52.625
People have these big boulders
in their backyards,

508
00:28:52.709 --> 00:28:53.834
really like them.

509
00:28:53.917 --> 00:28:56.667
It was great landscaping,
but none of them thought,

510
00:28:56.750 --> 00:28:59.291
"Well, how did these boulders
come here?"

511
00:29:00.458 --> 00:29:02.917
For the second time
in about a month,

512
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.166
search and rescue
was on our street,

513
00:29:05.250 --> 00:29:06.792
evacuating residents.

514
00:29:09.125 --> 00:29:10.542
It happened in the past.

515
00:29:10.625 --> 00:29:12.750
It will happen again
in the future.

516
00:29:12.834 --> 00:29:14.875
That's a basic law of geology.

517
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.250
Developing tonight,
the search is on

518
00:29:18.333 --> 00:29:22.583
for mudslide survivors
in Southern California.

519
00:29:22.667 --> 00:29:26.250
Rescuers are trying to reach
13 people reported missing,

520
00:29:26.333 --> 00:29:28.250
17 have already died.

521
00:29:28.333 --> 00:29:30.542
Authorities say at least
100 homes are destroyed,

522
00:29:30.625 --> 00:29:33.208
-washed away by the wall of mud.
- The staging area

523
00:29:33.291 --> 00:29:34.667
for the urban search
and rescue efforts

524
00:29:34.750 --> 00:29:36.333
-had been set up...
- Live in Montecito

525
00:29:36.417 --> 00:29:40.083
where the streets are absolutely
littered with cars and debris.

526
00:29:40.166 --> 00:29:43.834
I heard the rumble of the rocks
and I looked over at the river,

527
00:29:43.917 --> 00:29:46.500
and the trees are just
coming down.

528
00:29:50.625 --> 00:29:55.625
We were able to crawl out
our window to the roof.

529
00:29:55.709 --> 00:29:58.709
House is wiped out.
Just took everything out.

530
00:29:58.792 --> 00:30:01.667
And then later, we were worried
about our neighbor's house

531
00:30:01.750 --> 00:30:04.625
and we went over to see if,
uh, they were okay,

532
00:30:04.709 --> 00:30:07.000
and we heard
a little baby crying

533
00:30:07.083 --> 00:30:10.125
and, uh, dug down,
found a little baby.

534
00:30:10.208 --> 00:30:12.083
I don't know where it came from.

535
00:30:12.166 --> 00:30:16.333
But, uh, we got it out,
got the mud out of its mouth.

536
00:30:18.208 --> 00:30:19.417
I hope that it's okay.

537
00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:20.625
They took it
right to the hospital.

538
00:30:20.709 --> 00:30:23.834
But it was just a baby
four feet down in the mud,

539
00:30:23.917 --> 00:30:26.458
in nowhere,
just under the rocks.

540
00:30:26.542 --> 00:30:27.959
I'm glad we got it.

541
00:30:28.041 --> 00:30:30.333
But who knows
what else is out there.

542
00:30:36.750 --> 00:30:39.166
ALEXANDER "TREY" ROBERTSON IV:
Okay, folks. We'll go ahead
and get started.

543
00:30:39.250 --> 00:30:40.583
Thank you for coming.

544
00:30:40.667 --> 00:30:43.083
Collectively,
our group represents

545
00:30:43.166 --> 00:30:46.166
about 455 clients

546
00:30:46.250 --> 00:30:49.250
whose homes were either
completely destroyed or damaged

547
00:30:49.333 --> 00:30:52.750
in the fire
or the resulting debris flow.

548
00:30:52.834 --> 00:30:55.875
Cal Fire investigators
are looking at burn patterns,

549
00:30:55.959 --> 00:30:57.125
how it spread,

550
00:30:57.208 --> 00:30:59.083
and they specifically
are looking

551
00:30:59.166 --> 00:31:03.375
at Southern California Edison's
power lines and poles.

552
00:31:03.458 --> 00:31:05.166
I was sitting in our family room

553
00:31:05.250 --> 00:31:07.667
that has the beautiful view
up to the Topas,

554
00:31:07.750 --> 00:31:09.917
and I said, "Oh, my gosh!

555
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.125
I see two flashes,
two fires just started."

556
00:31:13.208 --> 00:31:15.583
And it was the transformers
that had exploded

557
00:31:15.667 --> 00:31:16.834
on Koenigstein.

558
00:31:16.917 --> 00:31:19.041
As soon
as the transformers exploded,

559
00:31:19.125 --> 00:31:20.458
our power went out.

560
00:31:21.542 --> 00:31:23.250
It was about a 50-foot
wall of flame

561
00:31:23.333 --> 00:31:25.291
that actually came up
and hit the house.

562
00:31:25.917 --> 00:31:27.458
It looked like a war zone.

563
00:31:28.959 --> 00:31:31.417
It's amazing to me in that,

564
00:31:31.500 --> 00:31:34.375
in this age of technology,

565
00:31:34.458 --> 00:31:39.625
we're still relying upon
World War II infrastructure

566
00:31:39.709 --> 00:31:41.834
to transmit electricity.

567
00:31:41.917 --> 00:31:43.750
It's-- it's just crazy.

568
00:31:47.041 --> 00:31:49.625
Overall, all the fires in 2017,

569
00:31:49.709 --> 00:31:53.458
you're talking
almost 10,000 structures lost.

570
00:31:53.542 --> 00:31:55.291
If you count
the Montecito mudslide,

571
00:31:55.375 --> 00:31:58.667
you're talking
60 plus fatalities.

572
00:32:00.333 --> 00:32:04.834
I was hoping that event
would create a wake-up call

573
00:32:04.917 --> 00:32:07.500
and force us to ask
the hard questions.

574
00:32:07.583 --> 00:32:10.250
Should the utilities
do something to create

575
00:32:10.333 --> 00:32:13.333
a more resilient system?
Absolutely.

576
00:32:14.333 --> 00:32:16.000
But we have to look
at the big picture,

577
00:32:16.083 --> 00:32:18.750
because what we're really doing
is putting Band-Aids everywhere.

578
00:32:18.834 --> 00:32:21.041
We're not looking
at the disease.

579
00:32:22.125 --> 00:32:24.000
The last drought we had recently

580
00:32:24.083 --> 00:32:27.166
was the worst drought we've had
in a thousand years.

581
00:32:29.083 --> 00:32:30.417
There's probably gonna be towns

582
00:32:30.500 --> 00:32:32.083
in the western side
of the Sierras

583
00:32:32.166 --> 00:32:35.000
that are just gonna become
drought ghost towns.

584
00:32:36.375 --> 00:32:39.667
I knew my neighbors
were not doing great.

585
00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:43.709
I knew my neighbors
were uninsured or underinsured,

586
00:32:43.792 --> 00:32:45.959
living in tents.

587
00:32:46.041 --> 00:32:48.583
But there are certain times
where I'm like,

588
00:32:48.667 --> 00:32:51.250
I don't wanna be waking up
at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning,

589
00:32:51.333 --> 00:32:53.625
looking out the windows when
there's 70-mile-an-hour winds,

590
00:32:53.709 --> 00:32:55.417
thinking my house
is gonna burn down.

591
00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:57.458
That's not normal.

592
00:32:57.542 --> 00:32:59.375
It's sad
because I always thought

593
00:32:59.458 --> 00:33:01.000
I'm gonna live here forever.

594
00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:06.125
I raised my kids here
on this property.

595
00:33:06.208 --> 00:33:09.667
And this is my new home.

596
00:33:09.750 --> 00:33:13.000
I got myself
two four-month-old kittens.

597
00:33:13.083 --> 00:33:15.583
And they are filling my house
with love.

598
00:33:15.667 --> 00:33:18.709
This is my sanctuary.

599
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.458
NOÉMIE: You hear a lot
of people that say

600
00:33:25.542 --> 00:33:27.458
that we shouldn't be
living here,

601
00:33:27.542 --> 00:33:29.542
but I'm looking
all around the news

602
00:33:29.625 --> 00:33:33.375
and seeing all of those
big natural catastrophes

603
00:33:33.458 --> 00:33:35.583
happening everywhere,
and I'm just wondering,

604
00:33:35.667 --> 00:33:37.208
"Where am I safe
to be living in?"

605
00:33:37.291 --> 00:33:39.750
Tonight, rivers
are rising to record levels,

606
00:33:39.834 --> 00:33:43.208
threatening homes and businesses
in Arkansas, Oklahoma,

607
00:33:43.291 --> 00:33:44.750
Kansas, and Missouri.

608
00:33:44.834 --> 00:33:47.166
Hurricane Michael closing in
on the Florida Panhandle.

609
00:33:47.250 --> 00:33:49.375
It could be the strongest storm
ever to hit that area.

610
00:33:49.458 --> 00:33:51.125
The Mendocino Complex Fire

611
00:33:51.208 --> 00:33:53.625
is now the largest wildfire
in state history.

612
00:33:53.709 --> 00:33:55.750
Sixty-six
million Americans

613
00:33:55.834 --> 00:33:57.333
are bracing for impact.

614
00:33:57.417 --> 00:33:59.709
In the past week,
at least 15 people

615
00:33:59.792 --> 00:34:01.500
have been killed by tornadoes
and flooding.

616
00:34:01.583 --> 00:34:04.041
There are more
severe storms in the forecast

617
00:34:04.125 --> 00:34:05.667
for later on this week.

618
00:34:16.041 --> 00:34:17.750
All burned in here.

619
00:34:17.834 --> 00:34:19.458
This high up.

620
00:34:23.709 --> 00:34:24.875
When we look back

621
00:34:24.959 --> 00:34:27.709
at how the Native people
survived here,

622
00:34:27.792 --> 00:34:31.667
their connection and their
conversation with nature

623
00:34:31.750 --> 00:34:33.166
was supreme.

624
00:34:34.625 --> 00:34:37.834
We can learn a lot
from the natural world.

625
00:34:41.959 --> 00:34:44.208
Plants have
tremendous intelligence,

626
00:34:44.291 --> 00:34:47.500
the way they've adapted
to this fire climate.

627
00:34:47.583 --> 00:34:50.166
We can see corollaries
for our lives.

628
00:34:51.792 --> 00:34:54.583
And I know there's a mystique
about Ojai,

629
00:34:54.667 --> 00:34:57.542
uh, being a "spiritual center"
and stuff like that.

630
00:34:57.625 --> 00:35:00.375
And, uh, I think that's--
I think it's in the mountains.

631
00:35:00.458 --> 00:35:03.250
I think if you get up
to some of these amazing,

632
00:35:03.333 --> 00:35:05.375
beautiful places up there,

633
00:35:05.458 --> 00:35:08.792
you can have a spiritual
experience in nature.

634
00:35:11.250 --> 00:35:12.667
Oh, my God.

635
00:35:19.583 --> 00:35:21.000
Made it to the top.

636
00:35:22.041 --> 00:35:23.959
Really, really spectacular.

637
00:35:56.709 --> 00:35:58.458
NOÉMIE:
You know, I'm still traumatized.

638
00:35:58.542 --> 00:36:00.709
You don't want nobody
to just feel

639
00:36:00.792 --> 00:36:02.333
what we felt that night.

640
00:36:03.750 --> 00:36:06.458
Every time I hear
the helicopters,

641
00:36:06.542 --> 00:36:09.208
every time the wind picks up,

642
00:36:09.291 --> 00:36:12.542
I have this scared feeling
inside me.

643
00:36:12.625 --> 00:36:14.667
If we wanna continue
living here,

644
00:36:14.750 --> 00:36:16.834
that's what we will have
to deal

645
00:36:16.917 --> 00:36:19.041
for the rest of our time here.

646
00:36:19.125 --> 00:36:21.583
And I don't know
if I'm just ready for that.

647
00:36:22.917 --> 00:36:26.333
Offshore winds
begin, really, by tomorrow.

648
00:36:26.417 --> 00:36:29.458
Extreme fire danger
for Southern California.

649
00:36:30.667 --> 00:36:32.542
After the Thomas Fire,

650
00:36:32.625 --> 00:36:34.250
after Casitas Fire,

651
00:36:34.333 --> 00:36:38.792
another fire was right here
where I live right now.

652
00:36:42.333 --> 00:36:44.417
My daughter see me sometimes,

653
00:36:44.500 --> 00:36:47.792
that I went out of the house
and look in the stars,

654
00:36:47.875 --> 00:36:49.041
and I say,

655
00:36:51.166 --> 00:36:52.792
"What's going on?" You know?

656
00:36:54.458 --> 00:36:58.291
A 150-acre
brush fire broke out here

657
00:36:58.375 --> 00:37:01.083
at approximately
6:15 this afternoon.

658
00:37:01.166 --> 00:37:03.583
My phone starts going crazy
and I look up,

659
00:37:03.667 --> 00:37:04.875
and what do you know?

660
00:37:04.959 --> 00:37:08.500
There's another fire.
And that's one ridge away.

661
00:37:08.583 --> 00:37:10.959
Monsters come
in different forms.

662
00:37:13.250 --> 00:37:17.125
Halloween Night, 2019,

663
00:37:17.208 --> 00:37:19.709
there's a fire in Santa Paula.

664
00:37:19.792 --> 00:37:23.000
We can see it here
from Sulphur Mountain Ridge.

665
00:37:23.083 --> 00:37:25.750
And it begins again.

666
00:38:53.333 --> 00:38:54.709
Okay. That's it.





