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Good evening, everyone.
Good evening.

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Hi. Welcome.

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Hello.

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Hi, everybody.
My name is Kabir Sehgal.

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I'm the executive producer
of "Fandango at the Wall."

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This is my mentor
and colleague Arturo O'Farrill.

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Everyone,
Arturo O'Farrill.

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And this is
Jorge Francisco Castillo.

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Jorge is the inspiration
for Fandango Fronterizo,

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and its founder.

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This project has taken us

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to the US-Mexico border

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and beyond to Veracruz, Mexico,

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where we met the incredible
son jarocho artists

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who you will see tonight.

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We recorded an album with them

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and the Afro Latin
Jazz Orchestra in Tijuana

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at the Fandango Fronterizo.

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And now for the first time,

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we're bringing that fandango
here to New York.

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Arturo O'Farrill:
Chico and Lupe
are my mother and father

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My father was a famous
Afro-Cuban jazz composer.

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Considered one of
the architects

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of Afro-Cuban Jazz.

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We, had, um...

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a big ceremony

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when they unveiled
the street sign

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and we planned this concert

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at the Soldiers
and Sailors Monument.

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And we had Wyn Marsalis
and Paquito D'Rivera,

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and the
Afro Latin Jazz Orchestra.

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We had, like, a sound system
and a whole stage,

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and it rained like crazy.

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My mother was, uh,

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brought to Nuevo Laredo, Texas,
at the age of 12 to sing,

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and she just kind of

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was a child
Mexican singer and, um...

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From her I got
this real sense of justice.

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I got this real sense
of what ought to be

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and what is not right.

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And this is kind of
what happened

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when I came upon
this article,

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uh, about
Jorge Francisco Castillo

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and about
the whole concept of, um...

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The whole concept of being
an immigrant, being a Mexican.

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Being...

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a non...

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Being not the member

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of the dominant,
uh, societal, uh, culture.

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Arturo and I were
having dinner together

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and he said, "I came across
this article in the newspaper."

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So I said,
"Let me see it."
And I read it.

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And it was
about this, uh, festival

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that happens
at the border wall

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between San Diego
and Tijuana.

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And all it said was
there was this man

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named Jorge Castillo

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and he's a librarian.

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And he puts on a festival
called Fandango Fronterizo.

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This is the wall
that I came to visit

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for the first time in 2007.

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And I saw some families
on the other side.

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And I remember a little boy
handed me a bottle of water.

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And shaking my hand.

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And I was totally shocked
by that action and...

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immediately to my mind
came the possibility

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of having a fandango
in this place.

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I ended up starting,
just to call

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all the local libraries in...
in San Diego.

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And I finally found Jorge.

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And then I asked him
whether he would like

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to join Arturo and me
at the border

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between the United States
and Mexico

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to record a live album
inspired by what he started.

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-Welcome to Mexico.
-Mexico.

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México.

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Welcome, everyone,
to day number one

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of "Fandango at the Wall."

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This is an incredible project
we're bringing together.

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Probably 150 people
to make a statement.

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To make music,
but really to, uh,

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to dramatize what's going on
in our countries.

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To bring people
and countries together.

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We're doing something
that's never been done before.

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And we're doing something
that we hope will draw

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all of us together

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in a way that, um,
nothing like music can.

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Bienvenidos.
Welcome, everybody.

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We're really honored
to have all of you here.

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Starting with
Arturo and Kabir.

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It's a real blessing

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to have so many people
in-- in Tijuana,

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being part of
the Fandango Fronterizo.

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It's gonna be a great experience
to play together

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tomorrow at the--
at the wall.

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And, uh, to be part
of one family.

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That's the whole idea.

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I really...
I'm really touched with this.

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This is really amazing.
It's very emotional.

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Thank you so much. Thank you.
Thank you, guys.

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-Thank you.

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Thank you.

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It's 40 feet from here,

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is the US border.

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No wall's gonna stop us, man.

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-No.

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Down!

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Next year,
the demilitarized zone.

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There's, like,
75,000 guns in Mexico

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-that have been
traced to America.
-Yeah.

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-So the drugs
are going this way.
-Right, and the guns...

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And the money and guns
coming this way.

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-I know.
-And it's like
this loop.

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A vicious loop of drugs,
people, money, all tied up.

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And the addictions
are right here.

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Arturo.

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I walked up to the water

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and I felt
my mother's presence

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on this project.

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It's incredibly
important to me

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that people have been gathered

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from every corner of the Earth
to the border.

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To New York. To Veracruz.

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To San Diego. To Tijuana.

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From Iran. From Iraq.

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Uh, people who
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have gathered
around this campfire

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that we've built.

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And I'm just really grateful
that this is the way

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my life's energy
is being spent right now.

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I think I'm a free soul,

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that I like to travel,
I like to meet people.

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And that's how
son jarocho came to me.

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I was going through
a divorce

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at that time,
in-- in my life.

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So, uh...

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I was kinda like at a stage

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where I didn't know
where I was going

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with the music,
with the...

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Well, a lot of things
were happening.

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My kids were growing up,

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they were leaving
the house.

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And then son jarocho came to me

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and, and brought me all
these friends and people

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and all this community.

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And I fell in love
with this music.

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I just felt like, uh,
it-it held me in its arms.

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And it was hugging me
all the time.

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Even though
I was born in Texas

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and then raised
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and being in California
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and connect all this music
and all this

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through this movement
of the Fandango.

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It's been one of
the best experiences in my life.

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Jorge said to me, if you're
gonna make an album

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that features son jarocho music

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you have to come to Veracruz
and learn about this music

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and meet
the masters themselves.

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So I said Arturo,
"We're going to Veracruz."

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Jacob was telling me...

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that this is
sacred magic land.

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Exactly.

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That little mystical creatures

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called Pecheques or...

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-Chaneques.
-Chaneques.

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-Chaneques.
-Chaneques.

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And that this whole area
is known

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for mystical occurrences.

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-Sí.
-And so, you...

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Yeah, you come here
and you kinda feel that.

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You feel that there is
something in the Earth here.

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There's something
in the air here that is--

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I think you have some Chaneques
within you, Arturo.

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-I think--
-Probably, we all do.

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No, it's funny,
now that I think of,
at just this very moment,

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I remember
visiting my friend

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in the University
of Vermont.

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And him giving me
a whole rundown

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of how the only place
in Mexico

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that really has
Afro-Mexican music

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is son jarocho in Veracruz.

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And how the roots
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and Afro-Mexican music
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to the, uh, the landing
of slave ships here.

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Don Andres
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and to me this, uh, icon.

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He's one of the best
son jarocho musicians.

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-Sí, sí, sí.

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Martha is one of today's

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most accomplished dancers.

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Or like we say
in son jarocho, zapateado.

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Dancing is very important
for son jarocho

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'cause that's your percussion.

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The dancer is the drummer.

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Oh!

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Ohh!

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Do you want me
to go get it?

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No, it's okay.

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Arturo.

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-La tierra.

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Exactly.

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Beautiful with the animals.

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I just felt like
I was in a...

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not a postcard, but...

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in a, like,
a time capsule in a way.

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Everyone in the kitchen
yesterday making

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-that best, amazing meal
and those tortillas.

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-Bro! What about
those tortillas?
-Oh, my God.

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Those tortillas are,
like, I don't know,

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I can't get them
out of my mind.

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Bro, I don't think
I'm ever...

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Jorge, I don't think I'm ever
gonna have a tortilla again.

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Ever.
Unless I come here.

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How often do you come now?

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-You come like every year?
-Oh, I...

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I come like two or three times
a year now.

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And-- and I love it.
Uh, I love it.

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Although I try
to avoid the summer.

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-Yeah.

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Ramon Gutierrez is one of
the best requinto players.

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And requinto is the lead guitar
of the son jarocho.

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He likes to improvise a lot.

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So, I think he will be perfect
for this encounter

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with the Afro Latin
Jazz Orchestra

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at the Fandango Fronterizo.

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The leona is the bass
of son jarocho.

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And Tacho is
an accomplished leona player.

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One of the best.

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And Wendy is fantastic
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a percussive instrument
also known as the jawbone.

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Patricio Hidalgo,
one of the best musicians

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in modern son jarocho

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and at the same time
he is like a mentor to me.

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And he motivated me
to be part of this music.

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Fernando Guadarrama
is a great poet.

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In son jarocho, the decima
is like a poem of ten lines.

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Fernando will improvise.

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Improvising on the spot
is not easy.

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And he is one of the best,

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so I thought he will be
a perfect match

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for the Fandango Fronterizo.

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One of the things I really
like about the borderlands

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is that people who grow up
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grow up speaking
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and America is one of
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that if you speak
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you're considered
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-No matter where you are.
-Yeah.

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That's true.

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And so, when you talk about

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the kinda world
we're living in,

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we're increasingly
living together.

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We can communicate
with anyone online.

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Being able to speak
different languages.

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We all come
from kinda different...

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We're kinda like
hyphenated Americans, right?

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I'm an Indian American.

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You're a Mexican
Irish American.

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Jorge here, bi...

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Bi-national, right?
Mexican American.

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And so being
a hyphenated American,

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I think is increasingly
the future

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because Hispanics
are gonna be

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the largest minority
majority group in America,

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if not they're...
if they aren't already.

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And it just...

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the sooner you encounter people
who are different from you,

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it prepares you
for the world.

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Do you think that
there should be
no border wall?

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Yeah, I-I think, uh...

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There should be no wall?

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There should be
no wall.

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Do you want the wall
to go away?

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I think it's a meaningless...

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Your book states
the statistics...

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-Right. But--
-That... No.

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Your book states
the statistics

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that most
of the illegal immigration

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is visa overstays.

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It takes place
through border points.

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That most of the drugs
go through border points.

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The wall is ineffective.

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It has been ineffective.
It will...

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If you can make it
profitable to be peaceful,

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that's the way to do it.

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When you...
When you...

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When you have to
rely on someone

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to get a part
of an automobile

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or you're part of
the supply chain, like...

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That's good business, yeah.

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You make it profitable
to do work with each other.

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In Atlanta,
where I'm from,

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blacks and whites do
joint business deals together,

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they bid on contracts.

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When you work with someone,
you don't wanna kill 'em.

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You wanna make
money together.

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So I say, how do we make
this borderland community?

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How do we bring
more industry there

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and do cross-border factories?

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-Cross-border commerce.
-But--

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Cross-border trade.

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-But think about--
-Really across border.

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But if it's...
if it's equal

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then-- then it'll work.

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My story goes
right to that matter

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because I escaped...

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Iraq in 1991

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to Jordan with
false travel document.

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And, uh, crossing

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another border to Syria,

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to Damascus.

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As an Iranian person,
I've been in that situation.

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But in my country,

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I'm as a Baha'i,
that I practice

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another religion,
not Muslim.

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I wasn't able to go
to university

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for higher education
after high school.

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So I came to the United States
to just have

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um, I mean,
better situation

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for studying
and introducing my culture.

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You're saying we can
only drive during the day?

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We shouldn't drive at night?

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-In this land?
-Yeah.

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Yeah, it-- unfortunately,

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these days it has become
very, very unsecure.

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What's the worst
that could happen?

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Like someone
stops us right now,

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what would happen?

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Well, you know,

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we could be stopped
at any moment.

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And hopefully
it doesn't happen.

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Some guys could
all of a sudden stop you

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in the middle of the road
with weapons

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and ask you
to get out of your car

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and-- and either kidnap you,

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take your belongings away

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or-or even, you know,

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worse comes to worse,

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I mean, they can even...

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disappear you.

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I mean, unfortunately

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that's the kind of,
uh, situation

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that is going on in--
in this area

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and a lot of places
in Mexico right now.

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When I was talking
to Patricio one day,

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Patricio Hidalgo,

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he mentioned one time,

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you know, um, Fandango...

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is the road of peace.

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The road of peace
in Veracruz.

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I never been to a Fandango,

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01:01:33.083 --> 01:01:36.333
uh, either in
Veracruz or Tijuana

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or San Diego, LA, wherever.

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There is never violence, so...

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so it feels like--
like this Chaneques

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that we were talking about

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are protecting us
all the time.

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When you come here

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oddly you don't feel,
uh, sad.

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You feel a spiritual sense.

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And you feel empowered
on the human spirit

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because of how they've taken
what was an abomination,

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have turned it into

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something of the human
imagination and beauty.

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One of the musicians
yesterday

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said something
that was so heavy.

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He said this wall
is not dividing us,

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it's uniting us.

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How do you think, Arturo,

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the music makes a difference?

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I've been traveling
as musician

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since I was 17 or 18.

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So I always considered
myself a borderless person.

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01:04:50.750 --> 01:04:51.625
Yeah.

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Japan, Germany,
Korea, Russia.

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So, you don't really
think about the fact

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that there's passports
and borders and things.

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You become
accustomed to the idea

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that you belong
to all of this.

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And this is just...
This is an aberration.

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The thing that's odd if
you think about with, uh...

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Ronald Reagan

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who is considered the...

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paragon of
American conservatism

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01:05:17.375 --> 01:05:20.500
talking about "Mr. Gorbachev,
tear down this wall,"

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01:05:20.792 --> 01:05:23.208
and giving that
amazing speech in Berlin

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about fighting for freedom,

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and then you come
to the US-Mexican border

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01:05:28.375 --> 01:05:31.583
and see an ugly barrier here

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01:05:31.667 --> 01:05:33.709
of just metal jagging up

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01:05:33.792 --> 01:05:37.125
and it kind of speaks against
American democratic ideals

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to be, I think, treating our--
our border zone in such a way.

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-Sí, bueno, bueno, bueno.

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This has been a reality
for the last...

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What, 50 years...

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01:09:50.542 --> 01:09:51.709
Fifty years.

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01:09:51.792 --> 01:09:53.750
Having this thing here,
right here.

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It needs to come down.

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01:09:55.667 --> 01:09:57.417
And this is gonna
bring it down, eh.

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Art, music, culture.

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It goes right through.

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01:09:59.959 --> 01:10:01.041
Our music goes
right through.

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High pinky.

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01:10:09.208 --> 01:10:10.125
High pinky.

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01:10:10.333 --> 01:10:11.667
All: High pinky!

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01:10:11.750 --> 01:10:12.583
High pinky.

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01:10:17.125 --> 01:10:18.250
Wow!

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Every time you do that,
the wall shakes.

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01:17:25.125 --> 01:17:27.125
After Fandango Fronterizo,

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01:17:27.208 --> 01:17:30.083
we coined this phrase
"The Fandango Doctrine,"

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01:17:30.166 --> 01:17:33.208
which is all about
bringing the fandango

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to different places
around the world.

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01:17:34.834 --> 01:17:36.500
And we thought,
what better place

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01:17:36.583 --> 01:17:38.583
than our hometown of New York?

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Wee-hee!

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Arturo!

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You're welcome to dance.

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Whoo!