1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:02:09,875 --> 00:02:12,208 Good evening, everyone. Good evening. 4 00:02:12,542 --> 00:02:14,542 Hi. Welcome. 5 00:02:14,792 --> 00:02:15,750 Hello. 6 00:02:17,083 --> 00:02:18,667 Hi, everybody. My name is Kabir Sehgal. 7 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:21,375 I'm the executive producer of "Fandango at the Wall." 8 00:02:21,834 --> 00:02:24,583 This is my mentor and colleague Arturo O'Farrill. 9 00:02:24,667 --> 00:02:26,125 Everyone, Arturo O'Farrill. 10 00:02:27,875 --> 00:02:30,041 And this is Jorge Francisco Castillo. 11 00:02:30,125 --> 00:02:33,959 Jorge is the inspiration for Fandango Fronterizo, 12 00:02:34,041 --> 00:02:35,125 and its founder. 13 00:02:35,208 --> 00:02:36,333 This project has taken us 14 00:02:36,417 --> 00:02:37,583 to the US-Mexico border 15 00:02:37,667 --> 00:02:39,417 and beyond to Veracruz, Mexico, 16 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:41,792 where we met the incredible son jarocho artists 17 00:02:41,875 --> 00:02:43,125 who you will see tonight. 18 00:02:43,208 --> 00:02:44,667 We recorded an album with them 19 00:02:44,750 --> 00:02:47,333 and the Afro Latin Jazz Orchestra in Tijuana 20 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:48,959 at the Fandango Fronterizo. 21 00:02:49,041 --> 00:02:50,583 And now for the first time, 22 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:53,041 we're bringing that fandango here to New York. 23 00:03:46,417 --> 00:03:49,125 Arturo O'Farrill: Chico and Lupe are my mother and father 24 00:03:49,208 --> 00:03:52,250 My father was a famous Afro-Cuban jazz composer. 25 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:53,875 Considered one of the architects 26 00:03:53,959 --> 00:03:55,458 of Afro-Cuban Jazz. 27 00:03:56,041 --> 00:03:57,458 We, had, um... 28 00:03:57,542 --> 00:03:59,458 a big ceremony 29 00:04:00,208 --> 00:04:02,583 when they unveiled the street sign 30 00:04:02,917 --> 00:04:04,875 and we planned this concert 31 00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:07,417 at the Soldiers and Sailors Monument. 32 00:04:07,792 --> 00:04:10,375 And we had Wyn Marsalis and Paquito D'Rivera, 33 00:04:10,458 --> 00:04:12,417 and the Afro Latin Jazz Orchestra. 34 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:15,667 We had, like, a sound system and a whole stage, 35 00:04:16,166 --> 00:04:18,083 and it rained like crazy. 36 00:04:30,625 --> 00:04:32,500 My mother was, uh, 37 00:04:32,583 --> 00:04:36,417 brought to Nuevo Laredo, Texas, at the age of 12 to sing, 38 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:37,750 and she just kind of 39 00:04:37,834 --> 00:04:41,417 was a child Mexican singer and, um... 40 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:45,583 From her I got this real sense of justice. 41 00:04:45,875 --> 00:04:48,250 I got this real sense of what ought to be 42 00:04:48,333 --> 00:04:49,375 and what is not right. 43 00:04:49,458 --> 00:04:51,750 And this is kind of what happened 44 00:04:51,834 --> 00:04:54,041 when I came upon this article, 45 00:04:54,417 --> 00:04:56,750 uh, about Jorge Francisco Castillo 46 00:04:56,834 --> 00:05:00,875 and about the whole concept of, um... 47 00:05:03,125 --> 00:05:07,041 The whole concept of being an immigrant, being a Mexican. 48 00:05:07,291 --> 00:05:08,583 Being... 49 00:05:09,750 --> 00:05:11,375 a non... 50 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,792 Being not the member 51 00:05:14,875 --> 00:05:19,291 of the dominant, uh, societal, uh, culture. 52 00:05:19,375 --> 00:05:21,792 Arturo and I were having dinner together 53 00:05:21,875 --> 00:05:25,291 and he said, "I came across this article in the newspaper." 54 00:05:25,375 --> 00:05:27,458 So I said, "Let me see it." And I read it. 55 00:05:27,542 --> 00:05:29,792 And it was about this, uh, festival 56 00:05:29,875 --> 00:05:31,667 that happens at the border wall 57 00:05:32,083 --> 00:05:34,333 between San Diego and Tijuana. 58 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:36,417 And all it said was there was this man 59 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:38,458 named Jorge Castillo 60 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:40,583 and he's a librarian. 61 00:05:40,667 --> 00:05:44,208 And he puts on a festival called Fandango Fronterizo. 62 00:05:52,667 --> 00:05:54,458 This is the wall that I came to visit 63 00:05:54,542 --> 00:05:56,709 for the first time in 2007. 64 00:05:56,792 --> 00:05:59,000 And I saw some families on the other side. 65 00:05:59,083 --> 00:06:02,500 And I remember a little boy handed me a bottle of water. 66 00:06:02,583 --> 00:06:04,208 And shaking my hand. 67 00:06:04,291 --> 00:06:08,083 And I was totally shocked by that action and... 68 00:06:08,166 --> 00:06:10,709 immediately to my mind came the possibility 69 00:06:10,792 --> 00:06:13,375 of having a fandango in this place. 70 00:06:13,709 --> 00:06:15,417 I ended up starting, just to call 71 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:19,709 all the local libraries in... in San Diego. 72 00:06:19,792 --> 00:06:21,625 And I finally found Jorge. 73 00:06:21,709 --> 00:06:23,458 And then I asked him whether he would like 74 00:06:23,542 --> 00:06:25,458 to join Arturo and me at the border 75 00:06:25,542 --> 00:06:27,208 between the United States and Mexico 76 00:06:27,291 --> 00:06:30,250 to record a live album inspired by what he started. 77 00:06:32,917 --> 00:06:34,542 -Welcome to Mexico. -Mexico. 78 00:06:34,625 --> 00:06:35,792 México. 79 00:07:07,625 --> 00:07:10,250 Welcome, everyone, to day number one 80 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:11,834 of "Fandango at the Wall." 81 00:07:11,917 --> 00:07:14,250 This is an incredible project we're bringing together. 82 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:17,333 Probably 150 people to make a statement. 83 00:07:17,417 --> 00:07:19,917 To make music, but really to, uh, 84 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,917 to dramatize what's going on in our countries. 85 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,792 To bring people and countries together. 86 00:07:25,875 --> 00:07:28,166 We're doing something that's never been done before. 87 00:07:28,250 --> 00:07:30,333 And we're doing something that we hope will draw 88 00:07:30,417 --> 00:07:32,083 all of us together 89 00:07:32,166 --> 00:07:35,834 in a way that, um, nothing like music can. 90 00:07:35,917 --> 00:07:37,917 Bienvenidos. Welcome, everybody. 91 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 We're really honored to have all of you here. 92 00:07:41,083 --> 00:07:43,667 Starting with Arturo and Kabir. 93 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:45,750 It's a real blessing 94 00:07:45,834 --> 00:07:48,542 to have so many people in-- in Tijuana, 95 00:07:48,834 --> 00:07:50,709 being part of the Fandango Fronterizo. 96 00:07:50,792 --> 00:07:53,208 It's gonna be a great experience to play together 97 00:07:53,291 --> 00:07:55,000 tomorrow at the-- at the wall. 98 00:07:55,083 --> 00:07:57,625 And, uh, to be part of one family. 99 00:07:57,709 --> 00:07:58,917 That's the whole idea. 100 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,834 I really... I'm really touched with this. 101 00:08:00,917 --> 00:08:03,458 This is really amazing. It's very emotional. 102 00:08:03,542 --> 00:08:05,500 Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, guys. 103 00:08:05,583 --> 00:08:07,542 -Thank you. 104 00:08:08,333 --> 00:08:09,333 Thank you. 105 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,500 It's 40 feet from here, 106 00:09:17,583 --> 00:09:18,834 is the US border. 107 00:09:21,125 --> 00:09:22,959 No wall's gonna stop us, man. 108 00:09:23,041 --> 00:09:24,125 -No. 109 00:09:24,208 --> 00:09:25,333 Down! 110 00:09:27,333 --> 00:09:29,917 Next year, the demilitarized zone. 111 00:09:32,375 --> 00:09:34,750 There's, like, 75,000 guns in Mexico 112 00:09:34,834 --> 00:09:36,500 -that have been traced to America. -Yeah. 113 00:09:36,583 --> 00:09:38,542 -So the drugs are going this way. -Right, and the guns... 114 00:09:38,625 --> 00:09:40,208 And the money and guns coming this way. 115 00:09:40,291 --> 00:09:42,041 -I know. -And it's like this loop. 116 00:09:42,125 --> 00:09:46,750 A vicious loop of drugs, people, money, all tied up. 117 00:09:46,834 --> 00:09:48,250 And the addictions are right here. 118 00:10:10,583 --> 00:10:11,709 Arturo. 119 00:10:36,834 --> 00:10:39,291 I walked up to the water 120 00:10:39,375 --> 00:10:41,417 and I felt my mother's presence 121 00:10:42,333 --> 00:10:43,583 on this project. 122 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,458 It's incredibly important to me 123 00:10:47,542 --> 00:10:49,041 that people have been gathered 124 00:10:49,125 --> 00:10:51,709 from every corner of the Earth to the border. 125 00:10:51,792 --> 00:10:54,458 To New York. To Veracruz. 126 00:10:54,542 --> 00:10:56,125 To San Diego. To Tijuana. 127 00:10:56,208 --> 00:10:57,917 From Iran. From Iraq. 128 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,583 Uh, people who have never met 129 00:11:00,667 --> 00:11:03,875 have gathered around this campfire 130 00:11:04,542 --> 00:11:06,125 that we've built. 131 00:11:06,208 --> 00:11:10,375 And I'm just really grateful that this is the way 132 00:11:10,458 --> 00:11:13,083 my life's energy is being spent right now. 133 00:11:50,125 --> 00:11:51,792 I think I'm a free soul, 134 00:11:51,875 --> 00:11:55,166 that I like to travel, I like to meet people. 135 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:57,542 And that's how son jarocho came to me. 136 00:11:57,625 --> 00:11:59,291 I was going through a divorce 137 00:11:59,375 --> 00:12:01,542 at that time, in-- in my life. 138 00:12:01,625 --> 00:12:03,291 So, uh... 139 00:12:03,709 --> 00:12:05,542 I was kinda like at a stage 140 00:12:05,625 --> 00:12:07,959 where I didn't know where I was going 141 00:12:08,208 --> 00:12:09,875 with the music, with the... 142 00:12:09,959 --> 00:12:11,417 Well, a lot of things were happening. 143 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:12,750 My kids were growing up, 144 00:12:12,834 --> 00:12:14,542 they were leaving the house. 145 00:12:14,625 --> 00:12:16,583 And then son jarocho came to me 146 00:12:16,667 --> 00:12:19,583 and, and brought me all these friends and people 147 00:12:19,792 --> 00:12:22,250 and all this community. 148 00:12:22,333 --> 00:12:24,291 And I fell in love with this music. 149 00:12:24,959 --> 00:12:29,125 I just felt like, uh, it-it held me in its arms. 150 00:12:29,375 --> 00:12:32,250 And it was hugging me all the time. 151 00:12:32,333 --> 00:12:33,750 Even though I was born in Texas 152 00:12:33,834 --> 00:12:36,041 and then raised in Juarez, Mexico, 153 00:12:36,125 --> 00:12:38,917 and being in California and then Tijuana, 154 00:12:39,125 --> 00:12:41,458 and connect all this music and all this 155 00:12:41,542 --> 00:12:43,583 through this movement of the Fandango. 156 00:12:43,667 --> 00:12:48,667 It's been one of the best experiences in my life. 157 00:12:48,750 --> 00:12:50,750 Jorge said to me, if you're gonna make an album 158 00:12:50,834 --> 00:12:52,333 that features son jarocho music 159 00:12:52,417 --> 00:12:54,834 you have to come to Veracruz and learn about this music 160 00:12:54,917 --> 00:12:56,333 and meet the masters themselves. 161 00:12:56,417 --> 00:12:59,125 So I said Arturo, "We're going to Veracruz." 162 00:13:07,834 --> 00:13:09,000 Jacob was telling me... 163 00:13:10,333 --> 00:13:14,166 that this is sacred magic land. 164 00:13:14,250 --> 00:13:15,291 Exactly. 165 00:13:15,375 --> 00:13:16,458 That little mystical creatures 166 00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:17,625 called Pecheques or... 167 00:13:17,709 --> 00:13:19,166 -Chaneques. -Chaneques. 168 00:13:19,250 --> 00:13:20,458 -Chaneques. -Chaneques. 169 00:13:20,542 --> 00:13:22,333 And that this whole area is known 170 00:13:22,417 --> 00:13:25,208 for mystical occurrences. 171 00:13:25,291 --> 00:13:26,542 -Sí. -And so, you... 172 00:13:26,625 --> 00:13:28,792 Yeah, you come here and you kinda feel that. 173 00:13:28,875 --> 00:13:32,709 You feel that there is something in the Earth here. 174 00:13:33,417 --> 00:13:35,959 There's something in the air here that is-- 175 00:13:36,041 --> 00:13:38,458 I think you have some Chaneques within you, Arturo. 176 00:13:39,041 --> 00:13:40,792 -I think-- -Probably, we all do. 177 00:13:43,041 --> 00:13:45,625 No, it's funny, now that I think of, at just this very moment, 178 00:13:45,709 --> 00:13:48,792 I remember visiting my friend 179 00:13:48,875 --> 00:13:50,625 in the University of Vermont. 180 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,375 And him giving me a whole rundown 181 00:13:53,458 --> 00:13:56,834 of how the only place in Mexico 182 00:13:56,917 --> 00:13:59,500 that really has Afro-Mexican music 183 00:13:59,583 --> 00:14:01,917 is son jarocho in Veracruz. 184 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,667 And how the roots of son jarocho 185 00:14:04,750 --> 00:14:08,500 and Afro-Mexican music is directly traced 186 00:14:08,583 --> 00:14:13,041 to the, uh, the landing of slave ships here. 187 00:15:37,250 --> 00:15:39,542 Don Andres is almost 90 years old, 188 00:15:39,625 --> 00:15:41,750 and to me this, uh, icon. 189 00:15:41,834 --> 00:15:44,250 He's one of the best son jarocho musicians. 190 00:17:49,083 --> 00:17:51,792 -Sí, sí, sí. 191 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:54,000 Martha is one of today's 192 00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:55,500 most accomplished dancers. 193 00:19:55,583 --> 00:19:58,583 Or like we say in son jarocho, zapateado. 194 00:19:58,667 --> 00:20:01,417 Dancing is very important for son jarocho 195 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,333 'cause that's your percussion. 196 00:20:03,417 --> 00:20:05,000 The dancer is the drummer. 197 00:20:14,041 --> 00:20:14,959 Oh! 198 00:20:15,041 --> 00:20:16,291 Ohh! 199 00:20:17,458 --> 00:20:18,458 Do you want me to go get it? 200 00:20:18,542 --> 00:20:19,667 No, it's okay. 201 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:03,625 Arturo. 202 00:21:12,291 --> 00:21:14,291 -La tierra. 203 00:21:26,417 --> 00:21:27,500 Exactly. 204 00:21:30,166 --> 00:21:31,458 Beautiful with the animals. 205 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:32,917 I just felt like I was in a... 206 00:21:33,041 --> 00:21:34,250 not a postcard, but... 207 00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:36,291 in a, like, a time capsule in a way. 208 00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:37,792 Everyone in the kitchen yesterday making 209 00:21:37,875 --> 00:21:40,041 -that best, amazing meal and those tortillas. 210 00:21:40,125 --> 00:21:42,000 -Bro! What about those tortillas? -Oh, my God. 211 00:21:42,083 --> 00:21:43,750 Those tortillas are, like, I don't know, 212 00:21:43,834 --> 00:21:45,291 I can't get them out of my mind. 213 00:21:45,375 --> 00:21:47,000 Bro, I don't think I'm ever... 214 00:21:47,083 --> 00:21:50,375 Jorge, I don't think I'm ever gonna have a tortilla again. 215 00:21:50,458 --> 00:21:52,166 Ever. Unless I come here. 216 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:54,458 How often do you come now? 217 00:21:54,542 --> 00:21:55,792 -You come like every year? -Oh, I... 218 00:21:55,875 --> 00:21:58,208 I come like two or three times a year now. 219 00:21:58,291 --> 00:22:00,125 And-- and I love it. Uh, I love it. 220 00:22:00,208 --> 00:22:02,166 Although I try to avoid the summer. 221 00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:03,750 -Yeah. 222 00:23:34,375 --> 00:23:37,542 Ramon Gutierrez is one of the best requinto players. 223 00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:42,041 And requinto is the lead guitar of the son jarocho. 224 00:23:42,125 --> 00:23:44,500 He likes to improvise a lot. 225 00:23:44,583 --> 00:23:47,375 So, I think he will be perfect for this encounter 226 00:23:47,458 --> 00:23:49,750 with the Afro Latin Jazz Orchestra 227 00:23:49,834 --> 00:23:51,500 at the Fandango Fronterizo. 228 00:27:34,875 --> 00:27:37,166 The leona is the bass of son jarocho. 229 00:27:37,250 --> 00:27:39,709 And Tacho is an accomplished leona player. 230 00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:41,291 One of the best. 231 00:27:41,375 --> 00:27:44,125 And Wendy is fantastic with the quijada, 232 00:27:44,208 --> 00:27:47,375 a percussive instrument also known as the jawbone. 233 00:34:37,417 --> 00:34:40,083 Patricio Hidalgo, one of the best musicians 234 00:34:40,166 --> 00:34:41,500 in modern son jarocho 235 00:34:41,583 --> 00:34:44,709 and at the same time he is like a mentor to me. 236 00:34:44,792 --> 00:34:47,667 And he motivated me to be part of this music. 237 00:41:10,792 --> 00:41:13,417 Fernando Guadarrama is a great poet. 238 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:17,583 In son jarocho, the decima is like a poem of ten lines. 239 00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:19,709 Fernando will improvise. 240 00:41:19,792 --> 00:41:22,458 Improvising on the spot is not easy. 241 00:41:22,542 --> 00:41:24,208 And he is one of the best, 242 00:41:24,291 --> 00:41:26,291 so I thought he will be a perfect match 243 00:41:26,375 --> 00:41:27,792 for the Fandango Fronterizo. 244 00:49:23,083 --> 00:49:24,917 One of the things I really like about the borderlands 245 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,417 is that people who grow up in the borderlands 246 00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:28,834 grow up speaking two languages, 247 00:49:28,917 --> 00:49:31,959 and America is one of the few places in the world 248 00:49:32,041 --> 00:49:33,500 that if you speak one language, 249 00:49:33,583 --> 00:49:34,917 you're considered well educated. 250 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,250 -No matter where you are. -Yeah. 251 00:49:36,333 --> 00:49:37,417 That's true. 252 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:38,583 And so, when you talk about 253 00:49:38,667 --> 00:49:39,834 the kinda world we're living in, 254 00:49:39,917 --> 00:49:41,667 we're increasingly living together. 255 00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:44,166 We can communicate with anyone online. 256 00:49:45,917 --> 00:49:47,625 Being able to speak different languages. 257 00:49:47,875 --> 00:49:49,041 We all come from kinda different... 258 00:49:49,125 --> 00:49:50,792 We're kinda like hyphenated Americans, right? 259 00:49:50,875 --> 00:49:52,125 I'm an Indian American. 260 00:49:52,208 --> 00:49:54,041 You're a Mexican Irish American. 261 00:49:54,125 --> 00:49:55,417 Jorge here, bi... 262 00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,417 Bi-national, right? Mexican American. 263 00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:00,166 And so being a hyphenated American, 264 00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:01,875 I think is increasingly the future 265 00:50:01,959 --> 00:50:03,875 because Hispanics are gonna be 266 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000 the largest minority majority group in America, 267 00:50:07,083 --> 00:50:08,667 if not they're... if they aren't already. 268 00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:10,125 And it just... 269 00:50:10,542 --> 00:50:13,083 the sooner you encounter people who are different from you, 270 00:50:13,166 --> 00:50:14,583 it prepares you for the world. 271 00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:20,583 Do you think that there should be no border wall? 272 00:50:21,083 --> 00:50:22,208 Yeah, I-I think, uh... 273 00:50:22,291 --> 00:50:23,083 There should be no wall? 274 00:50:23,166 --> 00:50:24,166 There should be no wall. 275 00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:25,417 Do you want the wall to go away? 276 00:50:25,583 --> 00:50:27,166 I think it's a meaningless... 277 00:50:27,250 --> 00:50:30,208 Your book states the statistics... 278 00:50:30,291 --> 00:50:31,959 -Right. But-- -That... No. 279 00:50:32,041 --> 00:50:33,291 Your book states the statistics 280 00:50:33,375 --> 00:50:35,792 that most of the illegal immigration 281 00:50:35,875 --> 00:50:37,166 is visa overstays. 282 00:50:37,250 --> 00:50:39,667 It takes place through border points. 283 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:42,542 That most of the drugs go through border points. 284 00:50:42,625 --> 00:50:43,667 The wall is ineffective. 285 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:45,208 It has been ineffective. It will... 286 00:50:45,291 --> 00:50:47,750 If you can make it profitable to be peaceful, 287 00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:49,375 that's the way to do it. 288 00:50:49,458 --> 00:50:50,375 When you... When you... 289 00:50:50,458 --> 00:50:51,458 When you have to rely on someone 290 00:50:51,542 --> 00:50:53,208 to get a part of an automobile 291 00:50:53,291 --> 00:50:55,542 or you're part of the supply chain, like... 292 00:50:55,625 --> 00:50:57,041 That's good business, yeah. 293 00:50:57,125 --> 00:50:58,792 You make it profitable to do work with each other. 294 00:50:58,875 --> 00:51:00,417 In Atlanta, where I'm from, 295 00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:02,875 blacks and whites do joint business deals together, 296 00:51:02,959 --> 00:51:04,333 they bid on contracts. 297 00:51:04,417 --> 00:51:06,458 When you work with someone, you don't wanna kill 'em. 298 00:51:06,542 --> 00:51:07,875 You wanna make money together. 299 00:51:07,959 --> 00:51:10,125 So I say, how do we make this borderland community? 300 00:51:10,208 --> 00:51:11,959 How do we bring more industry there 301 00:51:12,041 --> 00:51:13,834 and do cross-border factories? 302 00:51:13,917 --> 00:51:15,500 -Cross-border commerce. -But-- 303 00:51:15,583 --> 00:51:16,709 Cross-border trade. 304 00:51:16,792 --> 00:51:17,709 -But think about-- -Really across border. 305 00:51:17,792 --> 00:51:19,500 But if it's... if it's equal 306 00:51:19,583 --> 00:51:21,166 then-- then it'll work. 307 00:54:37,041 --> 00:54:40,834 My story goes right to that matter 308 00:54:40,917 --> 00:54:42,458 because I escaped... 309 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,500 Iraq in 1991 310 00:54:45,583 --> 00:54:49,333 to Jordan with false travel document. 311 00:54:50,166 --> 00:54:53,000 And, uh, crossing 312 00:54:53,542 --> 00:54:55,792 another border to Syria, 313 00:54:55,875 --> 00:54:56,959 to Damascus. 314 00:55:05,959 --> 00:55:09,583 As an Iranian person, I've been in that situation. 315 00:55:09,792 --> 00:55:11,375 But in my country, 316 00:55:11,583 --> 00:55:13,625 I'm as a Baha'i, that I practice 317 00:55:13,709 --> 00:55:16,041 another religion, not Muslim. 318 00:55:16,125 --> 00:55:18,709 I wasn't able to go to university 319 00:55:18,792 --> 00:55:20,834 for higher education after high school. 320 00:55:20,917 --> 00:55:23,625 So I came to the United States to just have 321 00:55:23,917 --> 00:55:26,041 um, I mean, better situation 322 00:55:26,125 --> 00:55:28,875 for studying and introducing my culture. 323 00:57:10,542 --> 00:57:13,208 You're saying we can only drive during the day? 324 00:57:13,291 --> 00:57:14,750 We shouldn't drive at night? 325 00:57:14,834 --> 00:57:16,083 -In this land? -Yeah. 326 00:57:16,166 --> 00:57:17,625 Yeah, it-- unfortunately, 327 00:57:17,709 --> 00:57:20,750 these days it has become very, very unsecure. 328 00:57:20,834 --> 00:57:21,792 What's the worst that could happen? 329 00:57:21,875 --> 00:57:22,709 Like someone stops us right now, 330 00:57:22,792 --> 00:57:23,792 what would happen? 331 00:57:23,875 --> 00:57:25,417 Well, you know, 332 00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,583 we could be stopped at any moment. 333 00:57:27,667 --> 00:57:29,500 And hopefully it doesn't happen. 334 00:57:30,583 --> 00:57:32,959 Some guys could all of a sudden stop you 335 00:57:33,041 --> 00:57:34,542 in the middle of the road with weapons 336 00:57:34,625 --> 00:57:36,583 and ask you to get out of your car 337 00:57:36,667 --> 00:57:39,250 and-- and either kidnap you, 338 00:57:39,333 --> 00:57:40,917 take your belongings away 339 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000 or-or even, you know, 340 00:57:43,083 --> 00:57:44,458 worse comes to worse, 341 00:57:44,542 --> 00:57:46,375 I mean, they can even... 342 00:57:46,875 --> 00:57:47,792 disappear you. 343 00:57:48,041 --> 00:57:49,792 I mean, unfortunately 344 00:57:49,875 --> 00:57:52,291 that's the kind of, uh, situation 345 00:57:52,375 --> 00:57:54,458 that is going on in-- in this area 346 00:57:54,542 --> 00:57:57,041 and a lot of places in Mexico right now. 347 01:01:17,375 --> 01:01:19,375 When I was talking to Patricio one day, 348 01:01:19,458 --> 01:01:21,166 Patricio Hidalgo, 349 01:01:21,250 --> 01:01:22,417 he mentioned one time, 350 01:01:22,667 --> 01:01:25,208 you know, um, Fandango... 351 01:01:25,875 --> 01:01:28,250 is the road of peace. 352 01:01:28,458 --> 01:01:30,625 The road of peace in Veracruz. 353 01:01:30,709 --> 01:01:32,583 I never been to a Fandango, 354 01:01:33,083 --> 01:01:36,333 uh, either in Veracruz or Tijuana 355 01:01:36,417 --> 01:01:39,333 or San Diego, LA, wherever. 356 01:01:39,417 --> 01:01:40,875 There is never violence, so... 357 01:01:40,959 --> 01:01:45,250 so it feels like-- like this Chaneques 358 01:01:45,792 --> 01:01:46,917 that we were talking about 359 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,709 are protecting us all the time. 360 01:04:08,917 --> 01:04:10,000 When you come here 361 01:04:10,083 --> 01:04:13,750 oddly you don't feel, uh, sad. 362 01:04:14,375 --> 01:04:17,083 You feel a spiritual sense. 363 01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:19,834 And you feel empowered on the human spirit 364 01:04:19,917 --> 01:04:23,792 because of how they've taken what was an abomination, 365 01:04:23,875 --> 01:04:25,375 have turned it into 366 01:04:25,458 --> 01:04:28,291 something of the human imagination and beauty. 367 01:04:31,208 --> 01:04:33,083 One of the musicians yesterday 368 01:04:33,333 --> 01:04:35,667 said something that was so heavy. 369 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:38,291 He said this wall is not dividing us, 370 01:04:38,583 --> 01:04:40,000 it's uniting us. 371 01:04:40,083 --> 01:04:41,083 How do you think, Arturo, 372 01:04:41,166 --> 01:04:42,625 the music makes a difference? 373 01:04:42,709 --> 01:04:45,083 I've been traveling as musician 374 01:04:45,166 --> 01:04:47,458 since I was 17 or 18. 375 01:04:47,792 --> 01:04:50,667 So I always considered myself a borderless person. 376 01:04:50,750 --> 01:04:51,625 Yeah. 377 01:04:51,917 --> 01:04:54,208 Japan, Germany, Korea, Russia. 378 01:04:54,291 --> 01:04:56,458 So, you don't really think about the fact 379 01:04:56,792 --> 01:04:59,083 that there's passports and borders and things. 380 01:04:59,166 --> 01:05:00,667 You become accustomed to the idea 381 01:05:00,750 --> 01:05:02,625 that you belong to all of this. 382 01:05:03,041 --> 01:05:06,375 And this is just... This is an aberration. 383 01:05:06,458 --> 01:05:09,291 The thing that's odd if you think about with, uh... 384 01:05:09,792 --> 01:05:11,875 Ronald Reagan 385 01:05:11,959 --> 01:05:13,625 who is considered the... 386 01:05:14,417 --> 01:05:17,291 paragon of American conservatism 387 01:05:17,375 --> 01:05:20,500 talking about "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall," 388 01:05:20,792 --> 01:05:23,208 and giving that amazing speech in Berlin 389 01:05:23,291 --> 01:05:24,625 about fighting for freedom, 390 01:05:24,709 --> 01:05:28,291 and then you come to the US-Mexican border 391 01:05:28,375 --> 01:05:31,583 and see an ugly barrier here 392 01:05:31,667 --> 01:05:33,709 of just metal jagging up 393 01:05:33,792 --> 01:05:37,125 and it kind of speaks against American democratic ideals 394 01:05:37,208 --> 01:05:41,750 to be, I think, treating our-- our border zone in such a way. 395 01:08:03,125 --> 01:08:06,542 -Sí, bueno, bueno, bueno. 396 01:09:46,917 --> 01:09:49,250 This has been a reality for the last... 397 01:09:49,333 --> 01:09:50,458 What, 50 years... 398 01:09:50,542 --> 01:09:51,709 Fifty years. 399 01:09:51,792 --> 01:09:53,750 Having this thing here, right here. 400 01:09:54,083 --> 01:09:55,208 It needs to come down. 401 01:09:55,667 --> 01:09:57,417 And this is gonna bring it down, eh. 402 01:09:57,625 --> 01:09:58,875 Art, music, culture. 403 01:09:58,959 --> 01:09:59,875 It goes right through. 404 01:09:59,959 --> 01:10:01,041 Our music goes right through. 405 01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:09,125 High pinky. 406 01:10:09,208 --> 01:10:10,125 High pinky. 407 01:10:10,333 --> 01:10:11,667 All: High pinky! 408 01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:12,583 High pinky. 409 01:10:17,125 --> 01:10:18,250 Wow! 410 01:10:21,166 --> 01:10:25,083 Every time you do that, the wall shakes. 411 01:17:25,125 --> 01:17:27,125 After Fandango Fronterizo, 412 01:17:27,208 --> 01:17:30,083 we coined this phrase "The Fandango Doctrine," 413 01:17:30,166 --> 01:17:33,208 which is all about bringing the fandango 414 01:17:33,291 --> 01:17:34,750 to different places around the world. 415 01:17:34,834 --> 01:17:36,500 And we thought, what better place 416 01:17:36,583 --> 01:17:38,583 than our hometown of New York? 417 01:19:02,333 --> 01:19:03,458 Wee-hee! 418 01:23:58,417 --> 01:23:59,583 Arturo! 419 01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:22,291 You're welcome to dance. 420 01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:33,750 Whoo!