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Hello, good morning.
Welcome to Interpol.

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Today,
we will focus on this match.

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Bahrain versus Togo,
in September 2010.

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(typing sounds)

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You see in the picture
that we have the players

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with a question mark.

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For months or years,
it was not clear

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who this team was from Togo.

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At Interpol, we use this match
like a case study.

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What happened?

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(background chatter)

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Give it up for Adam Fields!

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(crowd clapping and cheering)

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I don't know about you but I'm
not really a big football fan...

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Actually the match I
would love to have seen...

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love to have seen,
was Togo against Bahrain.

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Not many people know about this,
but it's gone down in history

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as the craziest
football match ever.

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So the thing is,
I know a bunch of guys

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who first heard this story

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and they found this
whole story so incredible

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they decided to make
a documentary about it,

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and they've travelled
around the world,

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interviewing all these
dodgy characters.

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But they wanted
to find out the truth

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of what really
happened in this match.

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Of course, the match between
Bahrain and Togo in 2010...

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is one that I remember
perfectly well.

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It was a very odd
and special match.

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You are actually
the first ones...

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at least the first people
outside of Austria...

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to talk about this
match publicly.

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It was the most curious
and extraordinary match...

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that I ever attended on
the bench as a coach.

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Basically in 2010,
it was the Golf Cup

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in the Middle East, and that's
a big deal in the Middle East,

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and Bahrain was taking part,

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they had to have
a practice match.

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The coaches decided they
needed three friendly matches…

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The first match
was against Qatar.

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They needed a second one.

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But they still
didn't have a team.

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They contacted a man
called Wilson Raj Perumal.

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Remember that name,
Wilson Raj Perumal.

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No, I've never heard the name
Wilson Perumal.

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Can we google him?

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Can we google him?

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He was from Singapore and he
had a company called Football4U.

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Football, 4, U, right?

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And he organised
international friendly matches.

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I thnk the fact
that this company,

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Football4U was
able to pay the air fair,

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pay the hotel accommodation

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and even pay their parents
fee for the visiting team.

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That was a very juicy
deal for Bahrain FA.

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Wilson Raj Perumal.

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So they asked him,
organise a good opponent

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against Bahrain, so they
could get a good practice in.

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So, he knew someone
at the Togo team.

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Organised the Togo team,
they fixed a date.

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Great to have a
match in Bahrain.

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And my local contact
in Togo was Bana.

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Yes, it's the first time
that I talk about this publicly.

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Before today, I was only ever
questioned by a prosecutor.

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Can any of you here

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actually point out those
two countries on a map?

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These are the two
most obscure countries

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you could possibly have,
and that was the point,

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because this was
perfect for match fixing.

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Bahrain is not
known for football.

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When the national team plays,
the stadium is as good as empty.

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However,
it’s a country with some

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political stature in football.

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Besides, Bahrain has money.

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But in the capital, Manama,

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you won't see many
children playing football.

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In Lomé, you will find
it’s the exact opposite.

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Youth in Togo regard football as
just about their only chance...

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to move up socially.

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(clapping)

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- That's exactly what gave me
the conviction...

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to help these players,
by selecting them.

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- So, Togo is a country
where football is important.

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It brings hope.

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It was just that the Togolese
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especially at the time
of the Togo vs Bahrain match...

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was in a state of
total disintegration.

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That's how much these players
had suffered.

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Their generation
had been left behind.

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- So: no money, no organisation.

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But everyone lives
and breathes football.

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All the players are famous.

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(laughter)

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So Bahrain against Togo.

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- For Wilson Raj Perumal,

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this match must
have been stressful.

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(laughter)

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The trouble was,
this guy, Wilson Perumal,

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he kind of got the
dates a bit wrong.

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The Togo national team wasn't
actually available that date,

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and that's where all the fun
begins ladies and gentlemen.

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(speaking on radio)

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- I just needed a
team from Togo.

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But I was not aware who
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who plays for the national team,
and who has a number of caps,

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and so on, I don't
keep a record of all this.

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- It was a last-minute thing.

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He was afraid the
match couldn’t take place.

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So he called me for help.

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He was in a situation where he
had to find replacement players.

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The national team would simply
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So replacements
needed to be found.

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And that's exactly what I did.

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- Only problem was,

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there wasn't a
second national team.

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So this guy,

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he literally got a few guys,

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just off the street,

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and said: "Right, you're
on the national team now."

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"Am I ? Oh that's nice"

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- He was quite helpful,

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but I was really
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he selected a group
of amateur players.

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That was a very...

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tricky situation,

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because I had no knowledge that
they were all amateur players.

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(typing sounds)

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(shouting from football pitch)

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- The coach of the national
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and we left.

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- It was just like
any other match.

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I was given notice
to play. I showed up.

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Yes, it was our chance.

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We were selected to play
from six million inhabitants.

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If you're selected to
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you can’t refuse.

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- I only took eligible players

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from Togo,
with a Togolese passport.

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- We went through
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we left Lomé together,
all the players.

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- Everyone was happy.
We were in the national team.

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- Was Bahrain aware of us
not selecting the top players?

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No, they weren't.

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- We were just happy
to have an opponent.

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- To me,
Wilson Perumal was a saviour.

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Thanks to him,
I could play matches...

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that allowed me to
get my teams in shape.

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- I think not many people
knew who Wilson Raj was

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or who...

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what company was this,
called Football4U.

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So when the bubble
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the company became very famous.

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I became very famous.

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Okay can you give me two taxis?

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- Thanks to him, I had the
privilege of taking a trip...

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with some local players, who
could discover another world.

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- We became good friends. I
think we met in some tournament,

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some kind of African
tournament somehwere...

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and then I spoke to him
and we became good friends.

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- He was a friend who
was there to help us.

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He helped like a friend would.

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- Bana Tchanilé, just so that
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is not a 'fake' trainer.

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- Yes, they call me 'coach'.

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I'm one of the few coaches with
a successful national career.

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Of the six seasons I
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I won the title all six times.

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In Niger I coached three teams,
three teams in Burkina Faso...

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one in Mali, one in Nigeria.

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And about everywhere I went,

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I was fortunate to
succeed in my career.

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- In the countries
surrounding Togo...

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Bana Tchanilé is
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the Mourinho of Africa.

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The players trust him
and he has a very African style.

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- He's a good man.

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He is the only coach
who really loves local players.

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The only one who
really loves them.

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- He’s more than a parent to us,
all the players.

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And we will be grateful
for the rest of our lives.

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He knows how to
help us move forward...

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through the difficult conditions
in this country.

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And it's not just
me saying that.

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- In Togo, before his arrest,
before Bahrain vs Togo...

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and before he
got banned for life,

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Bana Tchanilé was a true legend.

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- But today,
I am an informed man.

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If I could work in football
again, I would be a lot wiser.

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(car passing)

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(traffic sounds)

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- The atmosphere at the
stadium was very peculiar.

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There were hardly any people.

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The opposing team
was nowhere to be seen.

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- There were no more
than one hundred spectators.

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Apart from the wives and
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and some staff.

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- Right. We arrived in Bahrain.

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I noticed right away
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a sort of harsh climate.

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I was in England at the time.

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I was supposed to be there,

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but I couldn't catch
the flight on time.

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That was the only reason why
I did not make it for the match.

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During our preparation...

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I decided to change my strategy.

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Before,
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I asked that the
anthems not be sung.

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In addition, I asked that
the flags were not hoisted.

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Normally,
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before official
international matches.

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There had been incidents
during past matches.

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And now we left with
the wrong jerseys.

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We told them that these weren't

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the official jerseys
from our sponsor.

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These were store-bought jerseys.

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Okay, and these guys
were wearing Adidas.

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00:14:56.784 --> 00:14:58.237
Honestly, I have no clue.

257
00:15:00.005 --> 00:15:03.153
I didn't really bother where the
jerseys come from, and so on.

258
00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:08.320
The play-by-play
of the Bahrain vs Togo match...

259
00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.743
is still a bit of a mystery.

260
00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.018
There was no live coverage.

261
00:15:16.124 --> 00:15:20.604
It was as good as
hidden from the public.

262
00:15:20.920 --> 00:15:23.360
There’s no video.
Or very little.

263
00:15:23.779 --> 00:15:26.794
I think I've seen
the highlights before,

264
00:15:26.849 --> 00:15:29.348
and this is the
second or third time

265
00:15:29.372 --> 00:15:30.872
that I'm looking
at the highlights.

266
00:15:30.920 --> 00:15:32.600
(eclectic drum music)

267
00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:34.698
(typing sounds)

268
00:15:38.520 --> 00:15:42.348
- The Togolese
players we expected,

269
00:15:42.372 --> 00:15:44.040
those who played in Europe...

270
00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:46.973
were nowhere to be seen.

271
00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.240
Every one of their players
was a question mark to us.

272
00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.208
We hadn't heard of any of them.

273
00:15:53.680 --> 00:15:56.301
In 2010,
when I played against Bahrain,

274
00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.676
I was the team captain.

275
00:16:00.090 --> 00:16:04.370
I participated in this
match as a player.

276
00:16:04.560 --> 00:16:08.280
I was a Togolese player,
like the others.

277
00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:12.040
- Well,
I told the players outright...

278
00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.835
that this match had really been
organised to avert a disaster.

279
00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:20.870
Since the first team
had been unavailable...

280
00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.640
they really had to
play their best game.

281
00:16:24.800 --> 00:16:28.815
Give it your all, so that the
score won't turn out disastrous.

282
00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.948
The Togo team were beginners,

283
00:16:32.972 --> 00:16:35.400
simple amateurs,
hobby footballers.

284
00:16:35.425 --> 00:16:39.265
The match started and...

285
00:16:39.532 --> 00:16:42.094
it was...

286
00:16:42.790 --> 00:16:44.310
very, very strange.

287
00:16:44.450 --> 00:16:46.250
(suspenseful ambient music)

288
00:16:46.280 --> 00:16:47.503
(typing sounds, click)

289
00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:54.055
- Sayed Adnan with a long pass
to Salman Isa on the left side.

290
00:16:54.095 --> 00:16:59.570
A cross into the box to
Abdullah Omar, who passes back.

291
00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:03.668
Bravo. Beautiful
pass by Sayed Adnan,

292
00:17:03.692 --> 00:17:05.240
who then crosses from the left…

293
00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.200
As the game progressed...

294
00:17:08.215 --> 00:17:10.828
the Togo players

295
00:17:10.852 --> 00:17:14.615
couldn’t keep up
physically at all.

296
00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:20.424
We were struggling. Primarily
because of the acclimatisation.

297
00:17:21.251 --> 00:17:26.516
And also on a tactical level.

298
00:17:26.760 --> 00:17:31.086
It was tough. Bahrain
was in good shape.

299
00:17:32.120 --> 00:17:33.160
(mouse click)

300
00:17:33.976 --> 00:17:35.176
(typing, click)

301
00:17:35.367 --> 00:17:37.179
(ambient music)

302
00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:39.824
- A dangerous attack,
and the second goal.

303
00:17:40.255 --> 00:17:43.293
The second goal,
also by Jaycee John.

304
00:17:43.840 --> 00:17:48.095
Jaycee John scores his
second goal with a final touch.

305
00:17:49.885 --> 00:17:53.834
The coach tried
to boost our spirits.

306
00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:59.317
Usually, when I head a team,
I concede fewer goals.

307
00:17:59.551 --> 00:18:03.871
They just cleared the ball,
right off the pitch.

308
00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.817
It was nothing like a
normal match. It was useless.

309
00:18:09.576 --> 00:18:14.083
I think it looks pretty funny,
because...

310
00:18:14.138 --> 00:18:16.103
I see, fter the second goal,

311
00:18:16.127 --> 00:18:19.005
I see the linesman
lifting the flag.

312
00:18:19.576 --> 00:18:20.576
Offside.

313
00:18:20.592 --> 00:18:22.858
But the goal is
still being given...

314
00:18:25.454 --> 00:18:27.134
and it's quite strange.

315
00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:29.563
Did you notice that as well?

316
00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:33.788
- And in the second half,

317
00:18:33.812 --> 00:18:37.769
players collapsed
for minutes on end.

318
00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:44.960
They cried out in pain.
They cramped, or pretended to.

319
00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.843
The referee interrupted
the match for minutes.

320
00:18:49.152 --> 00:18:55.832
We soon got the feeling...

321
00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.126
that the referee team
was also from Togo.

322
00:19:00.800 --> 00:19:06.410
Yes. The referee Ibrahim Chaibou
made the trip with us.

323
00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:08.621
He came with us.

324
00:19:08.667 --> 00:19:11.348
I can still recall clearly

325
00:19:11.372 --> 00:19:15.043
that Josef was so
furious about this match...

326
00:19:15.080 --> 00:19:21.560
that I had a pretty hard time
calming him down.

327
00:19:21.790 --> 00:19:23.510
He was beside himself.

328
00:19:23.560 --> 00:19:26.952
They whistled for
made up things.

329
00:19:26.977 --> 00:19:32.255
The Togo players were delaying.
Unbelievable.

330
00:19:32.280 --> 00:19:37.599
For every throw-in
two minutes passed.

331
00:19:37.800 --> 00:19:41.699
(commentator speaking Arabic)

332
00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:44.268
- Under normal conditions

333
00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:48.199
I would have been sent
off for insulting the referee.

334
00:19:50.122 --> 00:19:52.055
They tried everything...

335
00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:59.215
to save their friends
from a debacle.

336
00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:04.226
I think that in the second half
there was perhaps...

337
00:20:04.251 --> 00:20:09.241
ten minutes of playing time,
net.

338
00:20:09.266 --> 00:20:12.488
For the rest,
they either lay on the pitch

339
00:20:12.512 --> 00:20:14.538
or the referee stopped play.

340
00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:16.880
(typing sounds)

341
00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:19.224
(energetic drum music)

342
00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.520
- Abdullatif about to
take the penalty kick.

343
00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.319
And he scores the third goal.

344
00:20:27.600 --> 00:20:33.192
After 3-0 they defended their
penalty area with all players.

345
00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:38.515
And with help from the linesmen
they kept it 3-0.

346
00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:40.901
(indistinct Arabic commentary)

347
00:20:40.964 --> 00:20:43.089
(eclectic ambient music)

348
00:20:43.560 --> 00:20:45.668
- The further the
match progressed,

349
00:20:45.692 --> 00:20:48.215
the more obvious it became...

350
00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:53.880
that there was
something fishy going on.

351
00:20:54.489 --> 00:20:57.020
I had no knowledge
of what was going on

352
00:20:57.036 --> 00:20:58.077
because there was no live

353
00:20:58.102 --> 00:21:01.426
or there's no online live match
going on for this game.

354
00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:07.073
We were not involved.
That day we had a bad referee.

355
00:21:09.726 --> 00:21:12.068
It's clear that the referee was

356
00:21:12.092 --> 00:21:14.561
the lead actor
in this situation.

357
00:21:14.800 --> 00:21:17.593
Because, well...

358
00:21:18.520 --> 00:21:24.306
Every time the ball went
towards the Togo goal...

359
00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:27.361
He immediately whistled
and stopped the game.

360
00:21:27.560 --> 00:21:31.240
So that's how the
match was played.

361
00:21:31.520 --> 00:21:34.680
But there's another
layer to the story.

362
00:21:34.705 --> 00:21:36.905
There’s a story on the pitch.

363
00:21:37.025 --> 00:21:40.348
And in the background,
the match tells a story

364
00:21:40.372 --> 00:21:43.903
about sports betting.

365
00:21:45.500 --> 00:21:49.086
(traffic sounds)

366
00:21:52.067 --> 00:21:53.507
(motorbike engine)

367
00:21:58.600 --> 00:22:00.800
(calm jazzy double bass)

368
00:22:01.387 --> 00:22:02.827
(knocking on door)

369
00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:05.075
(door opening)

370
00:22:06.269 --> 00:22:07.347
Good afternoon, how are you?

371
00:22:07.504 --> 00:22:08.680
(double bass plays)

372
00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.238
(typing sounds)

373
00:22:15.082 --> 00:22:17.995
Well at that time,
I was Head of Security at FIFA.

374
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:19.574
And, we had...

375
00:22:20.090 --> 00:22:22.269
no real information
before the match,

376
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.108
we had no information
during the match that it was...

377
00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:28.551
subject to at least
some integrity issues.

378
00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:31.180
So...

379
00:22:31.204 --> 00:22:34.308
the internet was
not busting with

380
00:22:34.332 --> 00:22:37.875
articles about match
fixing at that period of time.

381
00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.886
FIFA wasn't going to the match,
FIFA didn't observe the match.

382
00:22:42.040 --> 00:22:45.304
In those days we only had
the early warning system...

383
00:22:45.330 --> 00:22:47.748
which was a very small unit

384
00:22:47.772 --> 00:22:49.618
that was looking
at the betting trends.

385
00:22:50.120 --> 00:22:51.642
But don't forget most
of these matches

386
00:22:51.666 --> 00:22:53.190
were not bet on
the legal market.

387
00:22:53.490 --> 00:22:56.626
So looking at the legal
market wouldn't have shown...

388
00:22:56.658 --> 00:22:59.251
the possibilty of a betting
fraud was taking place.

389
00:22:59.800 --> 00:23:01.446
It was actually in
the illegal market,

390
00:23:01.470 --> 00:23:04.014
the black market, out of China,
out of Southeast Asia.

391
00:23:04.387 --> 00:23:06.793
(suspenseful music)

392
00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.805
Basically nobody knew
that I was a match fixer,

393
00:23:14.812 --> 00:23:17.695
who actually streamed match
fixing and so on in Singapore.

394
00:23:19.221 --> 00:23:20.673
(typing sounds)

395
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:24.611
Wilson Raj Perumal,
in my opinion...

396
00:23:24.636 --> 00:23:29.354
is a legend in the
world of match-fixing.

397
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.471
I have fixed quite a
lot of friendly matches.

398
00:23:33.360 --> 00:23:36.307
It was afterwards,
when he was arrested in Finland

399
00:23:36.320 --> 00:23:38.053
that we found
out the full details

400
00:23:38.077 --> 00:23:39.518
of that particular match.

401
00:23:41.201 --> 00:23:44.721
And he sits safely, as a
protected witness, in Hungary.

402
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:58.400
So, after this match, when
problems started to come up...

403
00:23:58.436 --> 00:24:01.708
we got to see the true face
of Wilson Perumal.

404
00:24:08.165 --> 00:24:13.071
- Well my life took a differnent
turn, after my school days.

405
00:24:13.103 --> 00:24:15.736
I grew up in a society where

406
00:24:15.760 --> 00:24:18.429
match fixing was so common,
and so rife.

407
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:22.367
Match fixing at that time,
my time, was not a crime.

408
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:27.459
So, I became a gambler and...

409
00:24:27.509 --> 00:24:30.797
I was told by a friend of mine,
that there's some people-

410
00:24:30.840 --> 00:24:33.028
all the people who are
gambling on football matches

411
00:24:33.052 --> 00:24:34.108
at a certain stadium

412
00:24:34.132 --> 00:24:35.860
called Jalan Besar
stadium in Singapore.

413
00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.344
Things got a little harder.
We were losing money.

414
00:24:39.501 --> 00:24:45.089
Then I... I used another option,
to rig matches.

415
00:24:48.376 --> 00:24:50.411
I booked my own football stadium

416
00:24:50.443 --> 00:24:52.348
and we did quite a
healthy sum of money,

417
00:24:52.360 --> 00:24:54.356
maybe about 15,000, 10,000 euro

418
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:56.231
that was the first
match that I rigged.

419
00:24:59.278 --> 00:25:01.196
I don't quite like to
watch football matches

420
00:25:01.220 --> 00:25:02.699
for the entire 90 minutes.

421
00:25:03.560 --> 00:25:08.431
We don't look at football in
the manner of a football fan.

422
00:25:08.862 --> 00:25:11.068
So, I go into this football game

423
00:25:11.080 --> 00:25:14.244
with the hope of
manipulating this match.

424
00:25:14.269 --> 00:25:17.179
I think Perumal
does love football.

425
00:25:17.560 --> 00:25:20.279
But as an instrument.

426
00:25:20.545 --> 00:25:25.745
An instrument that enables him
sustain, or did enable him...

427
00:25:26.040 --> 00:25:30.328
to sustain an addiction,
a need for adrenaline.

428
00:25:30.449 --> 00:25:32.839
(energetic drumming music)

429
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:39.587
(shouts from football pitch)

430
00:25:40.574 --> 00:25:43.675
- I am a fan of money.

431
00:25:47.942 --> 00:25:48.942
(clapping)

432
00:25:52.838 --> 00:25:55.361
- I prefer to approach
black people...

433
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.737
So I find that it's easier
to work with black people,

434
00:26:01.760 --> 00:26:04.409
than to work with
white people...

435
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:05.705
because...

436
00:26:05.792 --> 00:26:09.195
I've been to England before,
some time in 1995.

437
00:26:09.532 --> 00:26:11.255
I did approach
one or two people,

438
00:26:11.280 --> 00:26:13.734
and I see that
white people are...

439
00:26:14.024 --> 00:26:17.415
have principles and they don't
want to lose football matches,

440
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.805
and... their mindset
is completely different.

441
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:23.188
- I would say that
Wilson Raj Perumal is...

442
00:26:23.212 --> 00:26:25.789
a cold-blooded animal.

443
00:26:28.337 --> 00:26:30.476
- Even I myself,
I've played football

444
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.988
and if somebody were to offer
me a couple of hundred dollars

445
00:26:33.012 --> 00:26:35.265
to lose a football match,
I would not want to do so.

446
00:26:35.306 --> 00:26:36.329
I want to win.

447
00:26:36.454 --> 00:26:40.166
But if you put 100,000
or 200,000, then my...

448
00:26:40.436 --> 00:26:44.857
there's a possibility that
my principle might change.

449
00:26:45.600 --> 00:26:49.400
So what do you do? You approach
players who maybe need money.

450
00:26:49.423 --> 00:26:51.103
Who are paid much less.

451
00:26:54.107 --> 00:26:56.283
- It proved to be very
simple to Perumal,

452
00:26:56.307 --> 00:26:58.177
to corrupt people in football.

453
00:26:58.760 --> 00:27:00.628
- I usually bring
them out for a drink,

454
00:27:00.652 --> 00:27:02.026
claiming to be a football agent,

455
00:27:02.050 --> 00:27:04.459
I can put them in a
respectable club and so on...

456
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.600
I try to buy them
football boots,

457
00:27:06.624 --> 00:27:09.525
or some kind of iPhone
or sone latest gadget.

458
00:27:09.768 --> 00:27:13.080
So as soon as he
takes this gift from me,

459
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:16.783
then he's more committed to me,
so he will not make-

460
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.765
lodge a police report against
me, or something like that.

461
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.288
So that is like a business
loss that I'm prepared to...

462
00:27:24.176 --> 00:27:27.300
prepared to forego, even if
he doesn't cooperate with me.

463
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:28.440
(boy strikes ball)

464
00:27:29.040 --> 00:27:31.508
And once I get one player,

465
00:27:31.532 --> 00:27:36.245
that particular player may lead
me to a couple of his friends.

466
00:27:36.511 --> 00:27:38.987
Then we have maybe 4 or 5 guys.

467
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:41.298
He's a typical criminal really.

468
00:27:42.228 --> 00:27:43.228
But he's...

469
00:27:43.252 --> 00:27:45.388
he's not so intelligent,
but he was able to do

470
00:27:45.412 --> 00:27:47.105
so much harm to football.

471
00:27:47.220 --> 00:27:49.820
Which shows how
vulnerable football is,

472
00:27:49.970 --> 00:27:55.228
and was, to corruption,
for people like Wilson Perumal.

473
00:27:55.720 --> 00:28:00.064
So when I have the
sufficient number of players,

474
00:28:00.546 --> 00:28:02.647
then the ball gets rolling.

475
00:28:02.829 --> 00:28:04.297
(dramatic drum music)

476
00:28:04.320 --> 00:28:06.000
(indistinct commentary)

477
00:28:06.234 --> 00:28:09.635
So, I had everything
worked out for that match.

478
00:28:11.596 --> 00:28:16.111
To be manipulated in the manner
I would want it to happen.

479
00:28:16.224 --> 00:28:18.309
(drum music)
(indistinct commentary)

480
00:28:18.520 --> 00:28:23.200
- Bahrain vs Togo was a
real source of stress for him.

481
00:28:23.280 --> 00:28:26.738
But as a person who
runs on adrenaline,

482
00:28:26.762 --> 00:28:30.040
is addicted to the
game and loves risks...

483
00:28:30.120 --> 00:28:32.388
he manages to
talk about it today

484
00:28:32.412 --> 00:28:35.007
almost as if it was a big joke.

485
00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:36.400
(dramatic music)

486
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.547
I was in London, in Wembley.

487
00:28:39.211 --> 00:28:41.011
And what happened was that

488
00:28:41.313 --> 00:28:43.148
we had some dispute
with my taxi driver

489
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.754
who was driving
us to the airport.

490
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.059
And he left us stranded
at some point in time...

491
00:28:49.840 --> 00:28:51.628
halfway,
and he didn't want to travel,

492
00:28:51.652 --> 00:28:54.730
because he said if you know the
route, you drive it by yourself.

493
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:57.560
So he took a hotel
room in London...

494
00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:02.097
where he followed the match
via his mobile phone.

495
00:29:02.122 --> 00:29:04.668
A first or
second-generation iPhone.

496
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.316
Not as advanced as today's ones.

497
00:29:07.760 --> 00:29:13.621
And with this mobile phone
he carried out his operations.

498
00:29:14.012 --> 00:29:17.084
So what we needed to do was,
to check whether...

499
00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:21.148
the team was able to perform
up to the required standard,

500
00:29:21.173 --> 00:29:22.235
to fight Bahrain.

501
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.583
There you are. Typically, for
Bahrain vs Togo.

502
00:29:25.628 --> 00:29:29.646
They followed this match live...

503
00:29:30.080 --> 00:29:33.400
to decide their strategy
during the match.

504
00:29:33.947 --> 00:29:36.001
A lot of people around the
world, and particularly in Asia,

505
00:29:36.009 --> 00:29:39.025
like to gamble on
football matches.

506
00:29:39.978 --> 00:29:43.021
And this match was no exception,
people could follow

507
00:29:43.045 --> 00:29:46.866
the match on line, the score,
you know read the scores...

508
00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:50.070
in real time,
and place bets in real time.

509
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.749
Like how many goals would there
be, when would they be scored...

510
00:29:53.937 --> 00:29:55.942
We need three goals in
this match, and that's it.

511
00:29:55.997 --> 00:29:57.864
It doesn't matter who scores,
so we just...

512
00:29:58.443 --> 00:30:00.567
put money on the
total number of goals.

513
00:30:01.320 --> 00:30:02.630
And that's what I do.

514
00:30:03.099 --> 00:30:06.171
Perumal is part of a
syndicate out of Singapore.

515
00:30:06.724 --> 00:30:09.833
But it's not a Singaporean
syndicate really, it's a...

516
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.662
Chinese syndicate.

517
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.310
And the head of that syndicate
was a man called Dan Tan.

518
00:30:15.426 --> 00:30:17.613
(dramatic bass music)

519
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:27.400
- Dan Tan is known
in these circles...

520
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.600
as the one who pulls
the strings of the fixer.

521
00:30:30.800 --> 00:30:35.655
Someone who doesn't go to
stadiums, or works the players.

522
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:40.495
But his role is
to take the bets.

523
00:30:40.520 --> 00:30:44.640
To organise the bets
on the fixed matches.

524
00:30:44.832 --> 00:30:47.855
Dan Tan was one of six people
that were in this syndicate.

525
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:52.936
Dan Tan was implicated
in the Bahrain vs Togo match.

526
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.615
That is to say, Wilson Raj
Perumal offered him this match.

527
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.600
And Dan Tan financed it.

528
00:31:02.421 --> 00:31:04.101
I arranged the match,

529
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.200
the manipulated match
and then Dan Tan uses...

530
00:31:08.206 --> 00:31:12.409
his sources to throw
the bet in China.

531
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.545
So the betting house is
another professional people

532
00:31:15.560 --> 00:31:17.426
who are trained

533
00:31:17.670 --> 00:31:21.880
who have the ability to fulfill
how much you want to bet,

534
00:31:22.186 --> 00:31:23.186
and so on...

535
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:25.908
- Four touches and it's a goal,

536
00:31:25.932 --> 00:31:28.938
only nine minutes
into the first half.

537
00:31:29.040 --> 00:31:33.422
And... 8 minutes or 9 minutes,
1-0.

538
00:31:33.520 --> 00:31:35.444
So we haven't
placed any bet yet.

539
00:31:35.840 --> 00:31:37.889
1-0. So what do we do?

540
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:42.264
Ten minutes in, I knew that this
should be a double-digit win.

541
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:46.320
If the scoreline is 5-0,
we lose our money.

542
00:31:46.520 --> 00:31:49.988
During the match,
behind the scenes,

543
00:31:50.012 --> 00:31:52.520
Dan Tan got nervous
and called Perumal.

544
00:31:52.863 --> 00:31:55.339
I said "You hang on a second,
let me check with Bana

545
00:31:55.386 --> 00:32:00.151
if the team can hold Bahrain.
Then we will go the other way.

546
00:32:00.285 --> 00:32:02.526
So just bear with me for five
minutes, I'll call you back."

547
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:04.263
So I called Bana...

548
00:32:04.360 --> 00:32:06.376
(phone ringing)

549
00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:12.306
- Well. He made
telephone contact...

550
00:32:12.320 --> 00:32:16.120
through one of his agents,
who I'd never met.

551
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:21.450
He came down from the stands
to ask me something. I said: No.

552
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.468
I said "Bana,
how is the team performing?

553
00:32:25.493 --> 00:32:27.247
Do you think they
can withstand?"

554
00:32:28.360 --> 00:32:31.333
"Can we stop them from
beating us by 3 or 4-0?"

555
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.120
I can't accept instructions
from the stands.

556
00:32:36.719 --> 00:32:39.340
Right, so no more
goals until I tell you so.

557
00:32:39.360 --> 00:32:42.496
Pack the defence,
put all your 11 men back there.

558
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.601
I can't accept instructions from
the stands. So I cut him short.

559
00:32:46.716 --> 00:32:48.396
(sound of fans cheering)

560
00:32:48.760 --> 00:32:51.593
- I didn't know this was a
fake team, so I took a gamble.

561
00:32:51.771 --> 00:32:54.062
(phone ringing)

562
00:32:54.273 --> 00:32:56.687
I called Dan Tan,
I said: "Collect the bet.

563
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:00.902
Alright, don't worry. I have
referees and I have 11 players.

564
00:33:00.918 --> 00:33:03.253
And I don't see
ourself losing 5-0."

565
00:33:03.301 --> 00:33:05.699
Okay, so what do you
do? You start collecting.

566
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.200
(dramatic music)

567
00:33:07.378 --> 00:33:09.058
(sound of fans cheering)

568
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:11.905
- The problem was that

569
00:33:11.967 --> 00:33:16.037
something was brewing
in the betting world.

570
00:33:16.343 --> 00:33:18.873
There were a lot
of people punting

571
00:33:18.959 --> 00:33:20.240
(typing sounds)
(mouse click)

572
00:33:20.741 --> 00:33:24.915
in favour of Bahrain to
win the match by 4 or 5-0.

573
00:33:26.291 --> 00:33:27.908
They had all anticipated that

574
00:33:27.932 --> 00:33:29.860
Togo was there
to lose the match.

575
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.092
But I think only me,
Dan Tan and two of my friends

576
00:33:34.116 --> 00:33:37.764
who were in the apartment
together with me, probably knew

577
00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:42.686
that we were doing
a betting against

578
00:33:43.729 --> 00:33:45.862
Togo losing by a healthy margin.

579
00:33:46.463 --> 00:33:47.463
So, but...

580
00:33:47.729 --> 00:33:49.775
Our man Wilson,
now he's a smart guy.

581
00:33:49.800 --> 00:33:51.348
He wasn't taking any chances,

582
00:33:51.372 --> 00:33:54.220
no,
he paid off the referee as well.

583
00:33:54.280 --> 00:33:55.299
Of course he did.

584
00:33:55.458 --> 00:33:59.298
So, we were planning to hold
the score until the 85th minute

585
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.840
and probably concede one more,
and that's it, 0-3.

586
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.650
So this was my game plan.

587
00:34:06.289 --> 00:34:10.062
Okay, so around 40
minutes into the game,

588
00:34:10.227 --> 00:34:13.094
Dan Tan called me and he
said he needed one goal now.

589
00:34:13.120 --> 00:34:16.281
He wants Togo to concede one.

590
00:34:16.508 --> 00:34:18.314
So, I had to call Bana.

591
00:34:18.455 --> 00:34:24.895
No, that message...
I never got it, at any moment.

592
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.000
Not before and not
during the match.

593
00:34:28.141 --> 00:34:31.976
I said "I'll tell Ibrahim
Chaibou we need one goal now.

594
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.359
Concede one goal."

595
00:34:33.720 --> 00:34:36.647
(suspenseful music)

596
00:34:37.600 --> 00:34:40.760
- Strange decision
by the linesman.

597
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.720
He passes into the box,
a fine assist.

598
00:34:47.073 --> 00:34:52.873
A great attack.
And Jaycee John's second goal.

599
00:34:53.055 --> 00:34:56.255
Jaycee Johns scores
his second goal.

600
00:34:56.280 --> 00:35:01.640
Congratulations to everyone
in the Bahrain National Stadium.

601
00:35:01.846 --> 00:35:05.205
- Ibrahim Chaibou fixed
innumerable matches,

602
00:35:05.237 --> 00:35:07.013
around the world for Perumal.

603
00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:10.728
And Perumal's methodology
of fixing matches

604
00:35:10.772 --> 00:35:14.420
elevated from trying to recruit
players, corrupt players,

605
00:35:14.720 --> 00:35:18.582
to corrupting team
managers and coaches,

606
00:35:18.598 --> 00:35:20.788
and then finally,
to corrupting referees,

607
00:35:20.813 --> 00:35:23.192
because he found that
to be the most effective.

608
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.999
This referee is
considered by many

609
00:35:27.024 --> 00:35:30.191
to be the biggest
rigger of matches.

610
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.544
I didn't even know that it was
Perumal who hired the referees.

611
00:35:35.896 --> 00:35:38.188
It is my duty to
assemble a team to play

612
00:35:38.212 --> 00:35:40.458
in Bahrain on the
FIFA calendar day.

613
00:35:40.834 --> 00:35:43.300
So that was my responsibility,
and...

614
00:35:43.334 --> 00:35:45.748
I also encouraged Bahrain FA

615
00:35:45.772 --> 00:35:48.740
to place my referees and
my linesmen for the match.

616
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.830
Whether it was done
by Bana Tchanilé or

617
00:35:51.854 --> 00:35:54.115
whether it happened
at another time...

618
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.813
the referee Ibrahim Chaibou,
also known as 'The Iron Man'...

619
00:35:59.214 --> 00:36:02.335
was told to limit
the number of goals.

620
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.948
Rather than allowing many goals,

621
00:36:05.972 --> 00:36:07.960
he should limit them
to less than four.

622
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.651
So what happened was 2-0
was the first half scoreline.

623
00:36:14.152 --> 00:36:17.777
And 65 minutes,
the score is 3-0.

624
00:36:18.680 --> 00:36:19.680
3-0.

625
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:25.045
- Our national team
scores its third goal.

626
00:36:25.226 --> 00:36:30.460
The 65th minute, Ibrahim Chaibou
gives a penalty to Bahrain.

627
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.195
I said "Why would he
want to give a penalty

628
00:36:33.219 --> 00:36:35.418
at this point of time,
it's still very early

629
00:36:35.465 --> 00:36:37.696
he cannot,
how are we going to hold?"

630
00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:41.104
But Perumal was
in direct contact

631
00:36:41.128 --> 00:36:44.297
with the referee, Ibrahim.

632
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.948
According to almost everyone
present, the referee then

633
00:36:48.972 --> 00:36:50.535
changed his tack.

634
00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:52.868
He stopped the game

635
00:36:52.892 --> 00:36:56.440
under any pretext,
every little contact.

636
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:01.400
Perumal couldn't go through me,
the coach...

637
00:37:01.419 --> 00:37:04.739
to instruct the referee.
He had his own channels.

638
00:37:06.067 --> 00:37:12.825
(dramatic, suspenseful music)

639
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.811
(typing sounds)

640
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.446
- Rest assured that this is
the real Togolese football team.

641
00:37:22.837 --> 00:37:24.668
Their identity's
been in some doubt,

642
00:37:24.680 --> 00:37:26.083
ever since a group of imposters

643
00:37:26.107 --> 00:37:27.793
appeared in the
national colours,

644
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:29.649
for a friendly match in Bahrain.

645
00:37:30.275 --> 00:37:32.075
So who were the phony team?

646
00:37:32.080 --> 00:37:33.708
They're thought to
be professional players

647
00:37:33.732 --> 00:37:35.800
from Togo's 1st or 2nd Division,

648
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:37.464
though no one knows for sure.

649
00:37:37.691 --> 00:37:40.206
Though it might sound like
something from a comedy film,

650
00:37:40.261 --> 00:37:42.795
the incident's
provoked anger in Togo.

651
00:37:43.820 --> 00:37:46.703
- After the 90 minutes
I think I look at it

652
00:37:46.781 --> 00:37:48.718
in a very hilarious manner.

653
00:37:49.080 --> 00:37:52.988
Firstly, I think this
whole thing is so funny,

654
00:37:53.012 --> 00:37:55.224
that I was able to succesfully

655
00:37:55.248 --> 00:38:01.135
get the result that I want
with just a mobile phone.

656
00:38:01.557 --> 00:38:04.436
Right? And secondly,
I was able to get a volume

657
00:38:04.460 --> 00:38:08.893
of half a million euro, which
was beyond what I could believe.

658
00:38:12.375 --> 00:38:16.775
I think you could best
describe Perumal...

659
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.480
as a fox.

660
00:38:19.511 --> 00:38:23.991
He thinks twice
before showing his cards.

661
00:38:24.680 --> 00:38:28.832
(tense, suspenseful music)

662
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:32.670
- In Europe,

663
00:38:32.694 --> 00:38:36.705
a football player can live
comfortably off their earnings.

664
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.840
But in Togo,
a top league player...

665
00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:44.778
earns between 20 and 40 euros
per month.

666
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:50.960
20 to 40 euros per month is
not enough to support a family.

667
00:38:56.720 --> 00:39:02.320
When Bana called
the players to say:

668
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.320
"You have the chance to play
on the national team...

669
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:11.480
a national team
selected from local players..."

670
00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:12.713
Everybody said yes.

671
00:39:16.767 --> 00:39:21.527
- It's important. Very
important. We have nothing.

672
00:39:21.600 --> 00:39:24.500
A football player in Togo
can’t even afford a bicycle.

673
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.615
(dramatic music)

674
00:39:29.640 --> 00:39:32.655
(video playing on laptop)

675
00:39:32.680 --> 00:39:36.508
(indistinct Arabic commentary)

676
00:39:36.996 --> 00:39:38.628
- I don't think many
people realise

677
00:39:38.652 --> 00:39:40.667
the size of the
global betting market.

678
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.831
It's between 1.5 and
2 trillion dollars a year.

679
00:39:44.340 --> 00:39:46.948
Now that's the size
of national economies,

680
00:39:46.972 --> 00:39:48.316
of very big countries.

681
00:39:49.752 --> 00:39:52.931
I don't handle how much each
player received,

682
00:39:52.963 --> 00:39:57.174
but we payed 60,000
as a sum for this match.

683
00:39:57.200 --> 00:39:59.231
In between Togo and Bahrain.

684
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.760
It was 25,000 dollars
or 12 million CFA francs.

685
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.400
We had to share that
between up to 25 people.

686
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:09.052
(typing sounds)

687
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.080
I earned 200,000 CFA francs.

688
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:17.085
I don’t know about the others.
I was the team captain.

689
00:40:18.040 --> 00:40:19.368
I got 200,000.

690
00:40:20.680 --> 00:40:25.680
- 200,000 CFA francs
is roughly 300 euros.

691
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:33.097
It was something for someone
with empty pockets.

692
00:40:34.680 --> 00:40:40.240
It really amounted to something.
And that's why I said earlier:

693
00:40:40.304 --> 00:40:43.239
Perumal was someone

694
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.560
who helped us to
help our young people.

695
00:40:46.608 --> 00:40:49.694
(suspenseful music)

696
00:40:50.028 --> 00:40:53.164
The bubble burst,
because one Togolese FIFA agent

697
00:40:53.235 --> 00:40:57.267
went to lodge a complaint that,
how could Togo play this match?

698
00:40:57.618 --> 00:40:59.148
And where did these
players come from,

699
00:40:59.172 --> 00:41:00.711
who were the players and so on.

700
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:08.935
This story about the fake team,
this phony team...

701
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.280
really created a commotion.

702
00:41:12.174 --> 00:41:13.508
- This was a mixture

703
00:41:13.532 --> 00:41:15.988
of embarrassments
and scandals that,

704
00:41:16.012 --> 00:41:17.264
I think shocked people.

705
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:19.879
Because it was so bold,
so brazen.

706
00:41:20.577 --> 00:41:23.337
And what we're seeing
since the fake Togo team,

707
00:41:23.377 --> 00:41:26.032
it was the beginning of
you like of a realisation

708
00:41:26.134 --> 00:41:28.079
of how serious it was.

709
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.914
Yet, how almost humorous it was.

710
00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:33.880
That this was so
easy to corrupt.

711
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.227
And I think that that message,

712
00:41:36.809 --> 00:41:38.222
was taken by me at that time.

713
00:41:38.238 --> 00:41:40.550
That there was this arrogance

714
00:41:40.965 --> 00:41:44.792
of the criminals behind it,
that they didn't care anyway

715
00:41:45.040 --> 00:41:46.428
that it was a junior
team mascot -

716
00:41:46.452 --> 00:41:49.191
"We can get away with it,
because no one really cares."

717
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:54.415
So this triggered a very
big investigation within Togo.

718
00:41:55.023 --> 00:41:57.819
Then they went to FIFA and
then FIFA went to Bahrain.

719
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.722
And then the local press...

720
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.028
"Football4U is a
company from Singapore.

721
00:42:03.052 --> 00:42:04.425
Wilson Raj Perumal..."

722
00:42:04.528 --> 00:42:07.433
So... it became a wildfire.

723
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.465
(suspenseful music)

724
00:42:11.560 --> 00:42:13.240
(traffic, horns beeping)

725
00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:20.840
- When Bana
Tchanilé returned home

726
00:42:20.864 --> 00:42:23.320
after the Bahrain
vs Togo match...

727
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:24.539
he was arrested.

728
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.858
We were truly
surprised and shocked.

729
00:42:28.412 --> 00:42:31.540
Suddenly we heard that the coach
had been arrested.

730
00:42:32.040 --> 00:42:37.398
We were very surprised
and disappointed.

731
00:42:38.303 --> 00:42:39.303
And...

732
00:42:40.904 --> 00:42:42.904
We were disillusioned.

733
00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:49.800
Because the coach, as I said,
gave us players so much.

734
00:42:50.181 --> 00:42:53.275
The players decided not to talk.

735
00:42:53.300 --> 00:42:56.259
Some of them were interrogated
by the police.

736
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.320
But the majority
hid from the public eye...

737
00:43:00.345 --> 00:43:04.356
and refused to
talk to the media.

738
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.375
Because they were afraid.

739
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:14.040
I want to talk with my
face blurred, because...

740
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.992
first of all, for my safety.

741
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.360
In this country,
bad things can happen.

742
00:43:24.160 --> 00:43:26.494
- They arrest those
who tell the truth.

743
00:43:27.120 --> 00:43:30.902
We know that because
Coach Tchanilé was arrested.

744
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:33.198
He’s an honourable man.

745
00:43:38.080 --> 00:43:40.057
- So just to finish
this story off guys,

746
00:43:40.092 --> 00:43:42.560
you're probably wondering -
"What happened at the end?"

747
00:43:42.560 --> 00:43:44.373
I'll just make this short -
what happened at the end.

748
00:43:45.080 --> 00:43:47.788
Basically,
FIFA just snapped into action,

749
00:43:47.812 --> 00:43:50.246
and immediately
took measures to...

750
00:43:50.763 --> 00:43:51.950
of course they didn't,
it's FIFA...

751
00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:53.080
(laughs)

752
00:43:53.160 --> 00:43:54.903
FIFA did what FIFA does,
and they just went:

753
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.059
"Hmm, I dunno about this, uh..."

754
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.062
(laughs)

755
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.560
- Meanwhile,
it was the talk of the town.

756
00:44:01.640 --> 00:44:08.855
This match became a textbook
case in football education...

757
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:14.291
as well as in
police academies...

758
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:18.682
and for Interpol when they do
presentations on match-fixing.

759
00:44:18.843 --> 00:44:21.797
- For a variety of reasons,
I can't talk about what happened

760
00:44:21.898 --> 00:44:25.775
in my functions at FIFA,
because FIFA have...

761
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.720
have reminded me many times,
over the past few years,

762
00:44:29.109 --> 00:44:31.451
of my confidentiality
obligations.

763
00:44:31.720 --> 00:44:34.120
But I can talk
about the generality.

764
00:44:34.319 --> 00:44:37.526
FIFA haven’t done their job,
according to their own articles

765
00:44:38.200 --> 00:44:39.760
according to its regulations.

766
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.214
You have to hear someone out
before judging them.

767
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.697
But they haven’t.
I don't know why.

768
00:44:46.996 --> 00:44:50.253
It was a very good job, very
highly paid job and a very...

769
00:44:50.300 --> 00:44:52.940
travelling every week, almost.

770
00:44:53.240 --> 00:44:55.870
For most people,
it would be a dream job.

771
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.736
Well for me it was a nightmare,

772
00:44:57.877 --> 00:45:00.508
because I could
see how manipulated

773
00:45:00.532 --> 00:45:02.962
and manipulable FIFA was.

774
00:45:03.240 --> 00:45:06.520
This non-investigation
raises questions.

775
00:45:06.640 --> 00:45:10.760
You can't help but
wonder whether FIFA...

776
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:16.004
at some level wanted to
avoid scandals on both sides.

777
00:45:16.091 --> 00:45:19.137
It was shocking to me, and...

778
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.780
essentially,
I left in 2012 for that reason.

779
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.391
This match has been
shrouded in mystery.

780
00:45:29.216 --> 00:45:32.215
(typing sounds)

781
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:40.908
It was either a mystery or

782
00:45:40.932 --> 00:45:44.280
the ruthlessness to
apprehend people...

783
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.365
and then punish them
when they are innocent.

784
00:45:49.463 --> 00:45:52.119
(clapping)

785
00:45:53.240 --> 00:45:54.630
- He's a good coach.

786
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:01.264
- We're praying for FIFA
to remove his sanction.

787
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:02.948
And the guy from Singapore,

788
00:46:02.972 --> 00:46:05.624
who actually is the
mastermind behind it all.

789
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.850
This is the best bit. This
is what happened to him.

790
00:46:10.491 --> 00:46:12.751
- People may not
like me for what I did,

791
00:46:12.814 --> 00:46:17.447
but indirectly, they have to
also say that I am a person

792
00:46:17.520 --> 00:46:19.828
who has brought
this to the attention,

793
00:46:19.852 --> 00:46:21.369
and they have to wake up.

794
00:46:22.150 --> 00:46:24.321
(typing sounds)

795
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:31.920
If they don't wake up,

796
00:46:31.933 --> 00:46:34.390
somebody else is gonna
hit them like that once again.

797
00:46:35.080 --> 00:46:38.069
So I will say that I
am an eye opener.

798
00:46:38.541 --> 00:46:40.884
And that I have been able to...

799
00:46:43.080 --> 00:46:45.420
knock FIFA's door and say that

800
00:46:45.444 --> 00:46:46.631
"You have to do something more

801
00:46:46.655 --> 00:46:48.064
than what you are
doing right now."

802
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:52.900
By talking about it,
we grant him the favour...

803
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.205
of ensuring that he
won’t be forgotten.

804
00:46:57.815 --> 00:47:00.468
It allows him to
go down in history

805
00:47:00.492 --> 00:47:03.197
as the biggest
match-fixer ever arrested.

806
00:47:05.680 --> 00:47:08.515
(sound of fans cheering)

807
00:47:08.611 --> 00:47:11.220
(commentary, whistle blowing)

808
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.348
- In hindsight,

809
00:47:17.372 --> 00:47:20.760
if only I had known about
the notion of match-fixing...

810
00:47:20.785 --> 00:47:23.185
I would have been
more attentive.

811
00:47:23.200 --> 00:47:28.320
But back then, the thought
never crossed my mind.

812
00:47:31.315 --> 00:47:33.088
- It's not visible
to these guys.

813
00:47:33.120 --> 00:47:35.237
That's why you need
to have investigations.

814
00:47:35.494 --> 00:47:36.956
That's what you guys realise,

815
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.700
that's why you have
investigative journalists.

816
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.640
- Of course when it happens to
a sport that is so dear to me...

817
00:47:46.665 --> 00:47:48.988
that I live for and
that supports me,

818
00:47:49.012 --> 00:47:52.465
it's obviously a disaster.

819
00:47:57.391 --> 00:47:59.719
I would like to win
money from football,

820
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:01.108
than to love football,

821
00:48:01.132 --> 00:48:02.268
because the love for football

822
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:03.723
is not gonna put
food on your table.

823
00:48:03.950 --> 00:48:05.684
(laughs)

824
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.731
But he wants to put his
shady past behind him,

825
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:10.606
and wants to become
a better person.

826
00:48:10.794 --> 00:48:14.372
So... not only is he
a protected witness.

827
00:48:14.844 --> 00:48:19.555
He's now actually become
a Jehovah's witness.

828
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.422
We're working in the
right direction, as a family,

829
00:48:23.548 --> 00:48:25.899
because I would like to
see my children grow up

830
00:48:25.923 --> 00:48:30.959
as God-fearing people,
and responsible citizens.

831
00:48:31.240 --> 00:48:34.123
So, I think I should
set a good example.

832
00:48:35.640 --> 00:48:40.795
(ambient electronic music)

833
00:48:44.878 --> 00:48:47.830
(piano music)

834
00:48:49.322 --> 00:48:51.806
- You asked for a
fee for this interview.

835
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.017
Why did you ask a
fee for this interview?

836
00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:57.607
Because I have been approached
by plenty of reporters

837
00:48:57.631 --> 00:48:59.650
asking me questions and...

838
00:49:00.200 --> 00:49:02.755
"What is your opinion of
this and that?" and all...

839
00:49:02.763 --> 00:49:05.588
So I usually tell
reporters that...

840
00:49:05.612 --> 00:49:07.895
basically I am
tired of interviews.

841
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.722
I have done enough police
interviews over the years

842
00:49:10.746 --> 00:49:12.975
that I am so tired
to answer questions.

843
00:49:13.040 --> 00:49:14.668
And I have a family,
I need money,

844
00:49:14.692 --> 00:49:16.796
so if I'm contributing
something,

845
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:20.589
my time for this and I'm
being honest with my answers.

846
00:49:21.351 --> 00:49:23.194
(typing sounds)

847
00:49:23.445 --> 00:49:24.554
- Okay guys, thank you.

848
00:49:24.578 --> 00:49:26.179
Good night,
enjoy the rest of your evening.

849
00:49:26.838 --> 00:49:32.822
(clapping)

850
00:49:32.877 --> 00:49:35.463
(cheering, clapping)

851
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.564
(melancholy music)

852
00:49:56.848 --> 00:50:01.316
(dramatic piano chord)





