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Hello, good morning.
Welcome to Interpol.

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Today,
we will focus on this match.

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Bahrain versus Togo,
in September 2010.

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You see in the picture
that we have the players

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with a question mark.

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For months or years,
it was not clear

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who this team was from Togo.

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At Interpol, we use this match
like a case study.

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What happened?

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Give it up for Adam Fields!

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(crowd clapping and cheering)

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I don't know about you but I'm
not really a big football fan...

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Actually the match I
would love to have seen...

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love to have seen,
was Togo against Bahrain.

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Not many people know about this,
but it's gone down in history

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as the craziest
football match ever.

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So the thing is,
I know a bunch of guys

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who first heard this story

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and they found this
whole story so incredible

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they decided to make
a documentary about it,

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and they've travelled
around the world,

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interviewing all these
dodgy characters.

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But they wanted
to find out the truth

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of what really
happened in this match.

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Of course, the match between
Bahrain and Togo in 2010...

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is one that I remember
perfectly well.

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It was a very odd
and special match.

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You are actually
the first ones...

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at least the first people
outside of Austria...

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to talk about this
match publicly.

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It was the most curious
and extraordinary match...

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that I ever attended on
the bench as a coach.

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Basically in 2010,
it was the Golf Cup

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in the Middle East, and that's
a big deal in the Middle East,

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and Bahrain was taking part,

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they had to have
a practice match.

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The coaches decided they
needed three friendly matches…

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The first match
was against Qatar.

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They needed a second one.

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But they still
didn't have a team.

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They contacted a man
called Wilson Raj Perumal.

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Remember that name,
Wilson Raj Perumal.

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No, I've never heard the name
Wilson Perumal.

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Can we google him?

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Can we google him?

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He was from Singapore and he
had a company called Football4U.

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Football, 4, U, right?

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And he organised
international friendly matches.

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I thnk the fact
that this company,

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Football4U was
able to pay the air fair,

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pay the hotel accommodation

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and even pay their parents
fee for the visiting team.

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That was a very juicy
deal for Bahrain FA.

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Wilson Raj Perumal.

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So they asked him,
organise a good opponent

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against Bahrain, so they
could get a good practice in.

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So, he knew someone
at the Togo team.

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Organised the Togo team,
they fixed a date.

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Great to have a
match in Bahrain.

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And my local contact
in Togo was Bana.

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Yes, it's the first time
that I talk about this publicly.

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Before today, I was only ever
questioned by a prosecutor.

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Can any of you here

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actually point out those
two countries on a map?

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These are the two
most obscure countries

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you could possibly have,
and that was the point,

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because this was
perfect for match fixing.

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Bahrain is not
known for football.

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When the national team plays,
the stadium is as good as empty.

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However,
it’s a country with some

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political stature in football.

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Besides, Bahrain has money.

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But in the capital, Manama,

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you won't see many
children playing football.

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In Lomé, you will find
it’s the exact opposite.

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(whistle blowing)
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(excited chatter)

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Youth in Togo regard football as
just about their only chance...

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to move up socially.

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(clapping)

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- That's exactly what gave me
the conviction...

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to help these players,
by selecting them.

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- So, Togo is a country
where football is important.

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It brings hope.

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It was just that the Togolese
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especially at the time
of the Togo vs Bahrain match...

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was in a state of
total disintegration.

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That's how much these players
had suffered.

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Their generation
had been left behind.

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- So: no money, no organisation.

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But everyone lives
and breathes football.

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All the players are famous.

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(laughter)

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So Bahrain against Togo.

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- For Wilson Raj Perumal,

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this match must
have been stressful.

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(laughter)

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The trouble was,
this guy, Wilson Perumal,

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he kind of got the
dates a bit wrong.

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The Togo national team wasn't
actually available that date,

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and that's where all the fun
begins ladies and gentlemen.

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(speaking on radio)

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- I just needed a
team from Togo.

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But I was not aware who
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who plays for the national team,
and who has a number of caps,

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and so on, I don't
keep a record of all this.

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- It was a last-minute thing.

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He was afraid the
match couldn’t take place.

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So he called me for help.

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He was in a situation where he
had to find replacement players.

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The national team would simply
not make it in time.

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So replacements
needed to be found.

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And that's exactly what I did.

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- Only problem was,

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there wasn't a
second national team.

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So this guy,

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he literally got a few guys,

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just off the street,

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and said: "Right, you're
on the national team now."

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"Am I ? Oh that's nice"

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- He was quite helpful,

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but I was really
surprised at why

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he selected a group
of amateur players.

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That was a very...

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tricky situation,

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because I had no knowledge that
they were all amateur players.

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(typing sounds)

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(shouting from football pitch)

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- The coach of the national
team selected the players

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and we left.

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- It was just like
any other match.

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I was given notice
to play. I showed up.

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Yes, it was our chance.

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We were selected to play
from six million inhabitants.

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If you're selected to
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you can’t refuse.

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- I only took eligible players

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from Togo,
with a Togolese passport.

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- We went through
the formalities,

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we left Lomé together,
all the players.

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- Everyone was happy.
We were in the national team.

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- Was Bahrain aware of us
not selecting the top players?

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No, they weren't.

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- We were just happy
to have an opponent.

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- To me,
Wilson Perumal was a saviour.

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Thanks to him,
I could play matches...

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that allowed me to
get my teams in shape.

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- I think not many people
knew who Wilson Raj was

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or who...

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what company was this,
called Football4U.

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So when the bubble
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the company became very famous.

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I became very famous.

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Okay can you give me two taxis?

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- Thanks to him, I had the
privilege of taking a trip...

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with some local players, who
could discover another world.

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- We became good friends. I
think we met in some tournament,

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some kind of African
tournament somehwere...

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and then I spoke to him
and we became good friends.

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- He was a friend who
was there to help us.

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He helped like a friend would.

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- Bana Tchanilé, just so that
everyone is clear about this...

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is not a 'fake' trainer.

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- Yes, they call me 'coach'.

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I'm one of the few coaches with
a successful national career.

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Of the six seasons I
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I won the title all six times.

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In Niger I coached three teams,
three teams in Burkina Faso...

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one in Mali, one in Nigeria.

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And about everywhere I went,

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I was fortunate to
succeed in my career.

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- In the countries
surrounding Togo...

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Bana Tchanilé is
sometimes nicknamed

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the Mourinho of Africa.

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The players trust him
and he has a very African style.

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- He's a good man.

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He is the only coach
who really loves local players.

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The only one who
really loves them.

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- He’s more than a parent to us,
all the players.

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And we will be grateful
for the rest of our lives.

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He knows how to
help us move forward...

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through the difficult conditions
in this country.

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And it's not just
me saying that.

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- In Togo, before his arrest,
before Bahrain vs Togo...

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and before he
got banned for life,

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Bana Tchanilé was a true legend.

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- But today,
I am an informed man.

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If I could work in football
again, I would be a lot wiser.

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(drumming)

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(car passing)

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(traffic sounds)

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- The atmosphere at the
stadium was very peculiar.

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There were hardly any people.

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The opposing team
was nowhere to be seen.

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- There were no more
than one hundred spectators.

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Apart from the wives and
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and some staff.

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- Right. We arrived in Bahrain.

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I noticed right away
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a sort of harsh climate.

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I was in England at the time.

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I was supposed to be there,

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but I couldn't catch
the flight on time.

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That was the only reason why
I did not make it for the match.

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During our preparation...

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I decided to change my strategy.

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Before,
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I asked that the
anthems not be sung.

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In addition, I asked that
the flags were not hoisted.

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Normally,
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before official
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There had been incidents
during past matches.

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And now we left with
the wrong jerseys.

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We told them that these weren't

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the official jerseys
from our sponsor.

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These were store-bought jerseys.

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Okay, and these guys
were wearing Adidas.

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Honestly, I have no clue.

257
00:15:00,005 --> 00:15:03,153
I didn't really bother where the
jerseys come from, and so on.

258
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,320
The play-by-play
of the Bahrain vs Togo match...

259
00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,743
is still a bit of a mystery.

260
00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,018
There was no live coverage.

261
00:15:16,124 --> 00:15:20,604
It was as good as
hidden from the public.

262
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,360
There’s no video.
Or very little.

263
00:15:23,779 --> 00:15:26,794
I think I've seen
the highlights before,

264
00:15:26,849 --> 00:15:29,348
and this is the
second or third time

265
00:15:29,372 --> 00:15:30,872
that I'm looking
at the highlights.

266
00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,600
(eclectic drum music)

267
00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,698
(typing sounds)

268
00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,348
- The Togolese
players we expected,

269
00:15:42,372 --> 00:15:44,040
those who played in Europe...

270
00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,973
were nowhere to be seen.

271
00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,240
Every one of their players
was a question mark to us.

272
00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,208
We hadn't heard of any of them.

273
00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,301
In 2010,
when I played against Bahrain,

274
00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,676
I was the team captain.

275
00:16:00,090 --> 00:16:04,370
I participated in this
match as a player.

276
00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,280
I was a Togolese player,
like the others.

277
00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,040
- Well,
I told the players outright...

278
00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,835
that this match had really been
organised to avert a disaster.

279
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,870
Since the first team
had been unavailable...

280
00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,640
they really had to
play their best game.

281
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,815
Give it your all, so that the
score won't turn out disastrous.

282
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,948
The Togo team were beginners,

283
00:16:32,972 --> 00:16:35,400
simple amateurs,
hobby footballers.

284
00:16:35,425 --> 00:16:39,265
The match started and...

285
00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:42,094
it was...

286
00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:44,310
very, very strange.

287
00:16:44,450 --> 00:16:46,250
(suspenseful ambient music)

288
00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,503
(typing sounds, click)

289
00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,055
- Sayed Adnan with a long pass
to Salman Isa on the left side.

290
00:16:54,095 --> 00:16:59,570
A cross into the box to
Abdullah Omar, who passes back.

291
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,668
Bravo. Beautiful
pass by Sayed Adnan,

292
00:17:03,692 --> 00:17:05,240
who then crosses from the left…

293
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,200
As the game progressed...

294
00:17:08,215 --> 00:17:10,828
the Togo players

295
00:17:10,852 --> 00:17:14,615
couldn’t keep up
physically at all.

296
00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,424
We were struggling. Primarily
because of the acclimatisation.

297
00:17:21,251 --> 00:17:26,516
And also on a tactical level.

298
00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,086
It was tough. Bahrain
was in good shape.

299
00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:33,160
(mouse click)

300
00:17:33,976 --> 00:17:35,176
(typing, click)

301
00:17:35,367 --> 00:17:37,179
(ambient music)

302
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,824
- A dangerous attack,
and the second goal.

303
00:17:40,255 --> 00:17:43,293
The second goal,
also by Jaycee John.

304
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,095
Jaycee John scores his
second goal with a final touch.

305
00:17:49,885 --> 00:17:53,834
The coach tried
to boost our spirits.

306
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:59,317
Usually, when I head a team,
I concede fewer goals.

307
00:17:59,551 --> 00:18:03,871
They just cleared the ball,
right off the pitch.

308
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,817
It was nothing like a
normal match. It was useless.

309
00:18:09,576 --> 00:18:14,083
I think it looks pretty funny,
because...

310
00:18:14,138 --> 00:18:16,103
I see, fter the second goal,

311
00:18:16,127 --> 00:18:19,005
I see the linesman
lifting the flag.

312
00:18:19,576 --> 00:18:20,576
Offside.

313
00:18:20,592 --> 00:18:22,858
But the goal is
still being given...

314
00:18:25,454 --> 00:18:27,134
and it's quite strange.

315
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,563
Did you notice that as well?

316
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,788
- And in the second half,

317
00:18:33,812 --> 00:18:37,769
players collapsed
for minutes on end.

318
00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:44,960
They cried out in pain.
They cramped, or pretended to.

319
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,843
The referee interrupted
the match for minutes.

320
00:18:49,152 --> 00:18:55,832
We soon got the feeling...

321
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,126
that the referee team
was also from Togo.

322
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:06,410
Yes. The referee Ibrahim Chaibou
made the trip with us.

323
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,621
He came with us.

324
00:19:08,667 --> 00:19:11,348
I can still recall clearly

325
00:19:11,372 --> 00:19:15,043
that Josef was so
furious about this match...

326
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:21,560
that I had a pretty hard time
calming him down.

327
00:19:21,790 --> 00:19:23,510
He was beside himself.

328
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,952
They whistled for
made up things.

329
00:19:26,977 --> 00:19:32,255
The Togo players were delaying.
Unbelievable.

330
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,599
For every throw-in
two minutes passed.

331
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,699
(commentator speaking Arabic)

332
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,268
- Under normal conditions

333
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,199
I would have been sent
off for insulting the referee.

334
00:19:50,122 --> 00:19:52,055
They tried everything...

335
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:59,215
to save their friends
from a debacle.

336
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,226
I think that in the second half
there was perhaps...

337
00:20:04,251 --> 00:20:09,241
ten minutes of playing time,
net.

338
00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:12,488
For the rest,
they either lay on the pitch

339
00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:14,538
or the referee stopped play.

340
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,880
(typing sounds)

341
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,224
(energetic drum music)

342
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,520
- Abdullatif about to
take the penalty kick.

343
00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:25,319
And he scores the third goal.

344
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:33,192
After 3-0 they defended their
penalty area with all players.

345
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,515
And with help from the linesmen
they kept it 3-0.

346
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,901
(indistinct Arabic commentary)

347
00:20:40,964 --> 00:20:43,089
(eclectic ambient music)

348
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,668
- The further the
match progressed,

349
00:20:45,692 --> 00:20:48,215
the more obvious it became...

350
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,880
that there was
something fishy going on.

351
00:20:54,489 --> 00:20:57,020
I had no knowledge
of what was going on

352
00:20:57,036 --> 00:20:58,077
because there was no live

353
00:20:58,102 --> 00:21:01,426
or there's no online live match
going on for this game.

354
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:07,073
We were not involved.
That day we had a bad referee.

355
00:21:09,726 --> 00:21:12,068
It's clear that the referee was

356
00:21:12,092 --> 00:21:14,561
the lead actor
in this situation.

357
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,593
Because, well...

358
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,306
Every time the ball went
towards the Togo goal...

359
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,361
He immediately whistled
and stopped the game.

360
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,240
So that's how the
match was played.

361
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,680
But there's another
layer to the story.

362
00:21:34,705 --> 00:21:36,905
There’s a story on the pitch.

363
00:21:37,025 --> 00:21:40,348
And in the background,
the match tells a story

364
00:21:40,372 --> 00:21:43,903
about sports betting.

365
00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:49,086
(traffic sounds)

366
00:21:52,067 --> 00:21:53,507
(motorbike engine)

367
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,800
(calm jazzy double bass)

368
00:22:01,387 --> 00:22:02,827
(knocking on door)

369
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,075
(door opening)

370
00:22:06,269 --> 00:22:07,347
Good afternoon, how are you?

371
00:22:07,504 --> 00:22:08,680
(double bass plays)

372
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,238
(typing sounds)

373
00:22:15,082 --> 00:22:17,995
Well at that time,
I was Head of Security at FIFA.

374
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,574
And, we had...

375
00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:22,269
no real information
before the match,

376
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,108
we had no information
during the match that it was...

377
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,551
subject to at least
some integrity issues.

378
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,180
So...

379
00:22:31,204 --> 00:22:34,308
the internet was
not busting with

380
00:22:34,332 --> 00:22:37,875
articles about match
fixing at that period of time.

381
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,886
FIFA wasn't going to the match,
FIFA didn't observe the match.

382
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,304
In those days we only had
the early warning system...

383
00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:47,748
which was a very small unit

384
00:22:47,772 --> 00:22:49,618
that was looking
at the betting trends.

385
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,642
But don't forget most
of these matches

386
00:22:51,666 --> 00:22:53,190
were not bet on
the legal market.

387
00:22:53,490 --> 00:22:56,626
So looking at the legal
market wouldn't have shown...

388
00:22:56,658 --> 00:22:59,251
the possibilty of a betting
fraud was taking place.

389
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,446
It was actually in
the illegal market,

390
00:23:01,470 --> 00:23:04,014
the black market, out of China,
out of Southeast Asia.

391
00:23:04,387 --> 00:23:06,793
(suspenseful music)

392
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,805
Basically nobody knew
that I was a match fixer,

393
00:23:14,812 --> 00:23:17,695
who actually streamed match
fixing and so on in Singapore.

394
00:23:19,221 --> 00:23:20,673
(typing sounds)

395
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,611
Wilson Raj Perumal,
in my opinion...

396
00:23:24,636 --> 00:23:29,354
is a legend in the
world of match-fixing.

397
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,471
I have fixed quite a
lot of friendly matches.

398
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,307
It was afterwards,
when he was arrested in Finland

399
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,053
that we found
out the full details

400
00:23:38,077 --> 00:23:39,518
of that particular match.

401
00:23:41,201 --> 00:23:44,721
And he sits safely, as a
protected witness, in Hungary.

402
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,400
So, after this match, when
problems started to come up...

403
00:23:58,436 --> 00:24:01,708
we got to see the true face
of Wilson Perumal.

404
00:24:08,165 --> 00:24:13,071
- Well my life took a differnent
turn, after my school days.

405
00:24:13,103 --> 00:24:15,736
I grew up in a society where

406
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,429
match fixing was so common,
and so rife.

407
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:22,367
Match fixing at that time,
my time, was not a crime.

408
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,459
So, I became a gambler and...

409
00:24:27,509 --> 00:24:30,797
I was told by a friend of mine,
that there's some people-

410
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,028
all the people who are
gambling on football matches

411
00:24:33,052 --> 00:24:34,108
at a certain stadium

412
00:24:34,132 --> 00:24:35,860
called Jalan Besar
stadium in Singapore.

413
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,344
Things got a little harder.
We were losing money.

414
00:24:39,501 --> 00:24:45,089
Then I... I used another option,
to rig matches.

415
00:24:48,376 --> 00:24:50,411
I booked my own football stadium

416
00:24:50,443 --> 00:24:52,348
and we did quite a
healthy sum of money,

417
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,356
maybe about 15,000, 10,000 euro

418
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,231
that was the first
match that I rigged.

419
00:24:59,278 --> 00:25:01,196
I don't quite like to
watch football matches

420
00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:02,699
for the entire 90 minutes.

421
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,431
We don't look at football in
the manner of a football fan.

422
00:25:08,862 --> 00:25:11,068
So, I go into this football game

423
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,244
with the hope of
manipulating this match.

424
00:25:14,269 --> 00:25:17,179
I think Perumal
does love football.

425
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,279
But as an instrument.

426
00:25:20,545 --> 00:25:25,745
An instrument that enables him
sustain, or did enable him...

427
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,328
to sustain an addiction,
a need for adrenaline.

428
00:25:30,449 --> 00:25:32,839
(energetic drumming music)

429
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,587
(shouts from football pitch)

430
00:25:40,574 --> 00:25:43,675
- I am a fan of money.

431
00:25:47,942 --> 00:25:48,942
(clapping)

432
00:25:52,838 --> 00:25:55,361
- I prefer to approach
black people...

433
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,737
So I find that it's easier
to work with black people,

434
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,409
than to work with
white people...

435
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,705
because...

436
00:26:05,792 --> 00:26:09,195
I've been to England before,
some time in 1995.

437
00:26:09,532 --> 00:26:11,255
I did approach
one or two people,

438
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,734
and I see that
white people are...

439
00:26:14,024 --> 00:26:17,415
have principles and they don't
want to lose football matches,

440
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,805
and... their mindset
is completely different.

441
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,188
- I would say that
Wilson Raj Perumal is...

442
00:26:23,212 --> 00:26:25,789
a cold-blooded animal.

443
00:26:28,337 --> 00:26:30,476
- Even I myself,
I've played football

444
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,988
and if somebody were to offer
me a couple of hundred dollars

445
00:26:33,012 --> 00:26:35,265
to lose a football match,
I would not want to do so.

446
00:26:35,306 --> 00:26:36,329
I want to win.

447
00:26:36,454 --> 00:26:40,166
But if you put 100,000
or 200,000, then my...

448
00:26:40,436 --> 00:26:44,857
there's a possibility that
my principle might change.

449
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,400
So what do you do? You approach
players who maybe need money.

450
00:26:49,423 --> 00:26:51,103
Who are paid much less.

451
00:26:54,107 --> 00:26:56,283
- It proved to be very
simple to Perumal,

452
00:26:56,307 --> 00:26:58,177
to corrupt people in football.

453
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,628
- I usually bring
them out for a drink,

454
00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:02,026
claiming to be a football agent,

455
00:27:02,050 --> 00:27:04,459
I can put them in a
respectable club and so on...

456
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,600
I try to buy them
football boots,

457
00:27:06,624 --> 00:27:09,525
or some kind of iPhone
or sone latest gadget.

458
00:27:09,768 --> 00:27:13,080
So as soon as he
takes this gift from me,

459
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,783
then he's more committed to me,
so he will not make-

460
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,765
lodge a police report against
me, or something like that.

461
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,288
So that is like a business
loss that I'm prepared to...

462
00:27:24,176 --> 00:27:27,300
prepared to forego, even if
he doesn't cooperate with me.

463
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,440
(boy strikes ball)

464
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,508
And once I get one player,

465
00:27:31,532 --> 00:27:36,245
that particular player may lead
me to a couple of his friends.

466
00:27:36,511 --> 00:27:38,987
Then we have maybe 4 or 5 guys.

467
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,298
He's a typical criminal really.

468
00:27:42,228 --> 00:27:43,228
But he's...

469
00:27:43,252 --> 00:27:45,388
he's not so intelligent,
but he was able to do

470
00:27:45,412 --> 00:27:47,105
so much harm to football.

471
00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:49,820
Which shows how
vulnerable football is,

472
00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:55,228
and was, to corruption,
for people like Wilson Perumal.

473
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,064
So when I have the
sufficient number of players,

474
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:02,647
then the ball gets rolling.

475
00:28:02,829 --> 00:28:04,297
(dramatic drum music)

476
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,000
(indistinct commentary)

477
00:28:06,234 --> 00:28:09,635
So, I had everything
worked out for that match.

478
00:28:11,596 --> 00:28:16,111
To be manipulated in the manner
I would want it to happen.

479
00:28:16,224 --> 00:28:18,309
(drum music)
(indistinct commentary)

480
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,200
- Bahrain vs Togo was a
real source of stress for him.

481
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,738
But as a person who
runs on adrenaline,

482
00:28:26,762 --> 00:28:30,040
is addicted to the
game and loves risks...

483
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,388
he manages to
talk about it today

484
00:28:32,412 --> 00:28:35,007
almost as if it was a big joke.

485
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,400
(dramatic music)

486
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,547
I was in London, in Wembley.

487
00:28:39,211 --> 00:28:41,011
And what happened was that

488
00:28:41,313 --> 00:28:43,148
we had some dispute
with my taxi driver

489
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,754
who was driving
us to the airport.

490
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,059
And he left us stranded
at some point in time...

491
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,628
halfway,
and he didn't want to travel,

492
00:28:51,652 --> 00:28:54,730
because he said if you know the
route, you drive it by yourself.

493
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
So he took a hotel
room in London...

494
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,097
where he followed the match
via his mobile phone.

495
00:29:02,122 --> 00:29:04,668
A first or
second-generation iPhone.

496
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,316
Not as advanced as today's ones.

497
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,621
And with this mobile phone
he carried out his operations.

498
00:29:14,012 --> 00:29:17,084
So what we needed to do was,
to check whether...

499
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,148
the team was able to perform
up to the required standard,

500
00:29:21,173 --> 00:29:22,235
to fight Bahrain.

501
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,583
There you are. Typically, for
Bahrain vs Togo.

502
00:29:25,628 --> 00:29:29,646
They followed this match live...

503
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,400
to decide their strategy
during the match.

504
00:29:33,947 --> 00:29:36,001
A lot of people around the
world, and particularly in Asia,

505
00:29:36,009 --> 00:29:39,025
like to gamble on
football matches.

506
00:29:39,978 --> 00:29:43,021
And this match was no exception,
people could follow

507
00:29:43,045 --> 00:29:46,866
the match on line, the score,
you know read the scores...

508
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,070
in real time,
and place bets in real time.

509
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,749
Like how many goals would there
be, when would they be scored...

510
00:29:53,937 --> 00:29:55,942
We need three goals in
this match, and that's it.

511
00:29:55,997 --> 00:29:57,864
It doesn't matter who scores,
so we just...

512
00:29:58,443 --> 00:30:00,567
put money on the
total number of goals.

513
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,630
And that's what I do.

514
00:30:03,099 --> 00:30:06,171
Perumal is part of a
syndicate out of Singapore.

515
00:30:06,724 --> 00:30:09,833
But it's not a Singaporean
syndicate really, it's a...

516
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,662
Chinese syndicate.

517
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,310
And the head of that syndicate
was a man called Dan Tan.

518
00:30:15,426 --> 00:30:17,613
(dramatic bass music)

519
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,400
- Dan Tan is known
in these circles...

520
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,600
as the one who pulls
the strings of the fixer.

521
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,655
Someone who doesn't go to
stadiums, or works the players.

522
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,495
But his role is
to take the bets.

523
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,640
To organise the bets
on the fixed matches.

524
00:30:44,832 --> 00:30:47,855
Dan Tan was one of six people
that were in this syndicate.

525
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,936
Dan Tan was implicated
in the Bahrain vs Togo match.

526
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:59,615
That is to say, Wilson Raj
Perumal offered him this match.

527
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,600
And Dan Tan financed it.

528
00:31:02,421 --> 00:31:04,101
I arranged the match,

529
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,200
the manipulated match
and then Dan Tan uses...

530
00:31:08,206 --> 00:31:12,409
his sources to throw
the bet in China.

531
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,545
So the betting house is
another professional people

532
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,426
who are trained

533
00:31:17,670 --> 00:31:21,880
who have the ability to fulfill
how much you want to bet,

534
00:31:22,186 --> 00:31:23,186
and so on...

535
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,908
- Four touches and it's a goal,

536
00:31:25,932 --> 00:31:28,938
only nine minutes
into the first half.

537
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,422
And... 8 minutes or 9 minutes,
1-0.

538
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,444
So we haven't
placed any bet yet.

539
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,889
1-0. So what do we do?

540
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,264
Ten minutes in, I knew that this
should be a double-digit win.

541
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,320
If the scoreline is 5-0,
we lose our money.

542
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,988
During the match,
behind the scenes,

543
00:31:50,012 --> 00:31:52,520
Dan Tan got nervous
and called Perumal.

544
00:31:52,863 --> 00:31:55,339
I said "You hang on a second,
let me check with Bana

545
00:31:55,386 --> 00:32:00,151
if the team can hold Bahrain.
Then we will go the other way.

546
00:32:00,285 --> 00:32:02,526
So just bear with me for five
minutes, I'll call you back."

547
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,263
So I called Bana...

548
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,376
(phone ringing)

549
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,306
- Well. He made
telephone contact...

550
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,120
through one of his agents,
who I'd never met.

551
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,450
He came down from the stands
to ask me something. I said: No.

552
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,468
I said "Bana,
how is the team performing?

553
00:32:25,493 --> 00:32:27,247
Do you think they
can withstand?"

554
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,333
"Can we stop them from
beating us by 3 or 4-0?"

555
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,120
I can't accept instructions
from the stands.

556
00:32:36,719 --> 00:32:39,340
Right, so no more
goals until I tell you so.

557
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,496
Pack the defence,
put all your 11 men back there.

558
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,601
I can't accept instructions from
the stands. So I cut him short.

559
00:32:46,716 --> 00:32:48,396
(sound of fans cheering)

560
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,593
- I didn't know this was a
fake team, so I took a gamble.

561
00:32:51,771 --> 00:32:54,062
(phone ringing)

562
00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:56,687
I called Dan Tan,
I said: "Collect the bet.

563
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,902
Alright, don't worry. I have
referees and I have 11 players.

564
00:33:00,918 --> 00:33:03,253
And I don't see
ourself losing 5-0."

565
00:33:03,301 --> 00:33:05,699
Okay, so what do you
do? You start collecting.

566
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,200
(dramatic music)

567
00:33:07,378 --> 00:33:09,058
(sound of fans cheering)

568
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,905
- The problem was that

569
00:33:11,967 --> 00:33:16,037
something was brewing
in the betting world.

570
00:33:16,343 --> 00:33:18,873
There were a lot
of people punting

571
00:33:18,959 --> 00:33:20,240
(typing sounds)
(mouse click)

572
00:33:20,741 --> 00:33:24,915
in favour of Bahrain to
win the match by 4 or 5-0.

573
00:33:26,291 --> 00:33:27,908
They had all anticipated that

574
00:33:27,932 --> 00:33:29,860
Togo was there
to lose the match.

575
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,092
But I think only me,
Dan Tan and two of my friends

576
00:33:34,116 --> 00:33:37,764
who were in the apartment
together with me, probably knew

577
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,686
that we were doing
a betting against

578
00:33:43,729 --> 00:33:45,862
Togo losing by a healthy margin.

579
00:33:46,463 --> 00:33:47,463
So, but...

580
00:33:47,729 --> 00:33:49,775
Our man Wilson,
now he's a smart guy.

581
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,348
He wasn't taking any chances,

582
00:33:51,372 --> 00:33:54,220
no,
he paid off the referee as well.

583
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,299
Of course he did.

584
00:33:55,458 --> 00:33:59,298
So, we were planning to hold
the score until the 85th minute

585
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,840
and probably concede one more,
and that's it, 0-3.

586
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,650
So this was my game plan.

587
00:34:06,289 --> 00:34:10,062
Okay, so around 40
minutes into the game,

588
00:34:10,227 --> 00:34:13,094
Dan Tan called me and he
said he needed one goal now.

589
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,281
He wants Togo to concede one.

590
00:34:16,508 --> 00:34:18,314
So, I had to call Bana.

591
00:34:18,455 --> 00:34:24,895
No, that message...
I never got it, at any moment.

592
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,000
Not before and not
during the match.

593
00:34:28,141 --> 00:34:31,976
I said "I'll tell Ibrahim
Chaibou we need one goal now.

594
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,359
Concede one goal."

595
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:36,647
(suspenseful music)

596
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,760
- Strange decision
by the linesman.

597
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,720
He passes into the box,
a fine assist.

598
00:34:47,073 --> 00:34:52,873
A great attack.
And Jaycee John's second goal.

599
00:34:53,055 --> 00:34:56,255
Jaycee Johns scores
his second goal.

600
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Congratulations to everyone
in the Bahrain National Stadium.

601
00:35:01,846 --> 00:35:05,205
- Ibrahim Chaibou fixed
innumerable matches,

602
00:35:05,237 --> 00:35:07,013
around the world for Perumal.

603
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,728
And Perumal's methodology
of fixing matches

604
00:35:10,772 --> 00:35:14,420
elevated from trying to recruit
players, corrupt players,

605
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,582
to corrupting team
managers and coaches,

606
00:35:18,598 --> 00:35:20,788
and then finally,
to corrupting referees,

607
00:35:20,813 --> 00:35:23,192
because he found that
to be the most effective.

608
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,999
This referee is
considered by many

609
00:35:27,024 --> 00:35:30,191
to be the biggest
rigger of matches.

610
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,544
I didn't even know that it was
Perumal who hired the referees.

611
00:35:35,896 --> 00:35:38,188
It is my duty to
assemble a team to play

612
00:35:38,212 --> 00:35:40,458
in Bahrain on the
FIFA calendar day.

613
00:35:40,834 --> 00:35:43,300
So that was my responsibility,
and...

614
00:35:43,334 --> 00:35:45,748
I also encouraged Bahrain FA

615
00:35:45,772 --> 00:35:48,740
to place my referees and
my linesmen for the match.

616
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,830
Whether it was done
by Bana Tchanilé or

617
00:35:51,854 --> 00:35:54,115
whether it happened
at another time...

618
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,813
the referee Ibrahim Chaibou,
also known as 'The Iron Man'...

619
00:35:59,214 --> 00:36:02,335
was told to limit
the number of goals.

620
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,948
Rather than allowing many goals,

621
00:36:05,972 --> 00:36:07,960
he should limit them
to less than four.

622
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,651
So what happened was 2-0
was the first half scoreline.

623
00:36:14,152 --> 00:36:17,777
And 65 minutes,
the score is 3-0.

624
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,680
3-0.

625
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,045
- Our national team
scores its third goal.

626
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:30,460
The 65th minute, Ibrahim Chaibou
gives a penalty to Bahrain.

627
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,195
I said "Why would he
want to give a penalty

628
00:36:33,219 --> 00:36:35,418
at this point of time,
it's still very early

629
00:36:35,465 --> 00:36:37,696
he cannot,
how are we going to hold?"

630
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,104
But Perumal was
in direct contact

631
00:36:41,128 --> 00:36:44,297
with the referee, Ibrahim.

632
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,948
According to almost everyone
present, the referee then

633
00:36:48,972 --> 00:36:50,535
changed his tack.

634
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,868
He stopped the game

635
00:36:52,892 --> 00:36:56,440
under any pretext,
every little contact.

636
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,400
Perumal couldn't go through me,
the coach...

637
00:37:01,419 --> 00:37:04,739
to instruct the referee.
He had his own channels.

638
00:37:06,067 --> 00:37:12,825
(dramatic, suspenseful music)

639
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,811
(typing sounds)

640
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,446
- Rest assured that this is
the real Togolese football team.

641
00:37:22,837 --> 00:37:24,668
Their identity's
been in some doubt,

642
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,083
ever since a group of imposters

643
00:37:26,107 --> 00:37:27,793
appeared in the
national colours,

644
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,649
for a friendly match in Bahrain.

645
00:37:30,275 --> 00:37:32,075
So who were the phony team?

646
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,708
They're thought to
be professional players

647
00:37:33,732 --> 00:37:35,800
from Togo's 1st or 2nd Division,

648
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,464
though no one knows for sure.

649
00:37:37,691 --> 00:37:40,206
Though it might sound like
something from a comedy film,

650
00:37:40,261 --> 00:37:42,795
the incident's
provoked anger in Togo.

651
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:46,703
- After the 90 minutes
I think I look at it

652
00:37:46,781 --> 00:37:48,718
in a very hilarious manner.

653
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,988
Firstly, I think this
whole thing is so funny,

654
00:37:53,012 --> 00:37:55,224
that I was able to succesfully

655
00:37:55,248 --> 00:38:01,135
get the result that I want
with just a mobile phone.

656
00:38:01,557 --> 00:38:04,436
Right? And secondly,
I was able to get a volume

657
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:08,893
of half a million euro, which
was beyond what I could believe.

658
00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:16,775
I think you could best
describe Perumal...

659
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,480
as a fox.

660
00:38:19,511 --> 00:38:23,991
He thinks twice
before showing his cards.

661
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,832
(tense, suspenseful music)

662
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,670
- In Europe,

663
00:38:32,694 --> 00:38:36,705
a football player can live
comfortably off their earnings.

664
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,840
But in Togo,
a top league player...

665
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,778
earns between 20 and 40 euros
per month.

666
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,960
20 to 40 euros per month is
not enough to support a family.

667
00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:02,320
When Bana called
the players to say:

668
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,320
"You have the chance to play
on the national team...

669
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,480
a national team
selected from local players..."

670
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,713
Everybody said yes.

671
00:39:16,767 --> 00:39:21,527
- It's important. Very
important. We have nothing.

672
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,500
A football player in Togo
can’t even afford a bicycle.

673
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,615
(dramatic music)

674
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,655
(video playing on laptop)

675
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,508
(indistinct Arabic commentary)

676
00:39:36,996 --> 00:39:38,628
- I don't think many
people realise

677
00:39:38,652 --> 00:39:40,667
the size of the
global betting market.

678
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,831
It's between 1.5 and
2 trillion dollars a year.

679
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:46,948
Now that's the size
of national economies,

680
00:39:46,972 --> 00:39:48,316
of very big countries.

681
00:39:49,752 --> 00:39:52,931
I don't handle how much each
player received,

682
00:39:52,963 --> 00:39:57,174
but we payed 60,000
as a sum for this match.

683
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,231
In between Togo and Bahrain.

684
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,760
It was 25,000 dollars
or 12 million CFA francs.

685
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,400
We had to share that
between up to 25 people.

686
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,052
(typing sounds)

687
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,080
I earned 200,000 CFA francs.

688
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,085
I don’t know about the others.
I was the team captain.

689
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,368
I got 200,000.

690
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,680
- 200,000 CFA francs
is roughly 300 euros.

691
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,097
It was something for someone
with empty pockets.

692
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,240
It really amounted to something.
And that's why I said earlier:

693
00:40:40,304 --> 00:40:43,239
Perumal was someone

694
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,560
who helped us to
help our young people.

695
00:40:46,608 --> 00:40:49,694
(suspenseful music)

696
00:40:50,028 --> 00:40:53,164
The bubble burst,
because one Togolese FIFA agent

697
00:40:53,235 --> 00:40:57,267
went to lodge a complaint that,
how could Togo play this match?

698
00:40:57,618 --> 00:40:59,148
And where did these
players come from,

699
00:40:59,172 --> 00:41:00,711
who were the players and so on.

700
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,935
This story about the fake team,
this phony team...

701
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,280
really created a commotion.

702
00:41:12,174 --> 00:41:13,508
- This was a mixture

703
00:41:13,532 --> 00:41:15,988
of embarrassments
and scandals that,

704
00:41:16,012 --> 00:41:17,264
I think shocked people.

705
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:19,879
Because it was so bold,
so brazen.

706
00:41:20,577 --> 00:41:23,337
And what we're seeing
since the fake Togo team,

707
00:41:23,377 --> 00:41:26,032
it was the beginning of
you like of a realisation

708
00:41:26,134 --> 00:41:28,079
of how serious it was.

709
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,914
Yet, how almost humorous it was.

710
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,880
That this was so
easy to corrupt.

711
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,227
And I think that that message,

712
00:41:36,809 --> 00:41:38,222
was taken by me at that time.

713
00:41:38,238 --> 00:41:40,550
That there was this arrogance

714
00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:44,792
of the criminals behind it,
that they didn't care anyway

715
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,428
that it was a junior
team mascot -

716
00:41:46,452 --> 00:41:49,191
"We can get away with it,
because no one really cares."

717
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,415
So this triggered a very
big investigation within Togo.

718
00:41:55,023 --> 00:41:57,819
Then they went to FIFA and
then FIFA went to Bahrain.

719
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,722
And then the local press...

720
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,028
"Football4U is a
company from Singapore.

721
00:42:03,052 --> 00:42:04,425
Wilson Raj Perumal..."

722
00:42:04,528 --> 00:42:07,433
So... it became a wildfire.

723
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,465
(suspenseful music)

724
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,240
(traffic, horns beeping)

725
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,840
- When Bana
Tchanilé returned home

726
00:42:20,864 --> 00:42:23,320
after the Bahrain
vs Togo match...

727
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,539
he was arrested.

728
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,858
We were truly
surprised and shocked.

729
00:42:28,412 --> 00:42:31,540
Suddenly we heard that the coach
had been arrested.

730
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,398
We were very surprised
and disappointed.

731
00:42:38,303 --> 00:42:39,303
And...

732
00:42:40,904 --> 00:42:42,904
We were disillusioned.

733
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:49,800
Because the coach, as I said,
gave us players so much.

734
00:42:50,181 --> 00:42:53,275
The players decided not to talk.

735
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:56,259
Some of them were interrogated
by the police.

736
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,320
But the majority
hid from the public eye...

737
00:43:00,345 --> 00:43:04,356
and refused to
talk to the media.

738
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,375
Because they were afraid.

739
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,040
I want to talk with my
face blurred, because...

740
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,992
first of all, for my safety.

741
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,360
In this country,
bad things can happen.

742
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,494
- They arrest those
who tell the truth.

743
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,902
We know that because
Coach Tchanilé was arrested.

744
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,198
He’s an honourable man.

745
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,057
- So just to finish
this story off guys,

746
00:43:40,092 --> 00:43:42,560
you're probably wondering -
"What happened at the end?"

747
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,373
I'll just make this short -
what happened at the end.

748
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,788
Basically,
FIFA just snapped into action,

749
00:43:47,812 --> 00:43:50,246
and immediately
took measures to...

750
00:43:50,763 --> 00:43:51,950
of course they didn't,
it's FIFA...

751
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,080
(laughs)

752
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,903
FIFA did what FIFA does,
and they just went:

753
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,059
"Hmm, I dunno about this, uh..."

754
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,062
(laughs)

755
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,560
- Meanwhile,
it was the talk of the town.

756
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:08,855
This match became a textbook
case in football education...

757
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,291
as well as in
police academies...

758
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,682
and for Interpol when they do
presentations on match-fixing.

759
00:44:18,843 --> 00:44:21,797
- For a variety of reasons,
I can't talk about what happened

760
00:44:21,898 --> 00:44:25,775
in my functions at FIFA,
because FIFA have...

761
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,720
have reminded me many times,
over the past few years,

762
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:31,451
of my confidentiality
obligations.

763
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,120
But I can talk
about the generality.

764
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:37,526
FIFA haven’t done their job,
according to their own articles

765
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,760
according to its regulations.

766
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,214
You have to hear someone out
before judging them.

767
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,697
But they haven’t.
I don't know why.

768
00:44:46,996 --> 00:44:50,253
It was a very good job, very
highly paid job and a very...

769
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:52,940
travelling every week, almost.

770
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,870
For most people,
it would be a dream job.

771
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,736
Well for me it was a nightmare,

772
00:44:57,877 --> 00:45:00,508
because I could
see how manipulated

773
00:45:00,532 --> 00:45:02,962
and manipulable FIFA was.

774
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,520
This non-investigation
raises questions.

775
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,760
You can't help but
wonder whether FIFA...

776
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:16,004
at some level wanted to
avoid scandals on both sides.

777
00:45:16,091 --> 00:45:19,137
It was shocking to me, and...

778
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,780
essentially,
I left in 2012 for that reason.

779
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,391
This match has been
shrouded in mystery.

780
00:45:29,216 --> 00:45:32,215
(typing sounds)

781
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,908
It was either a mystery or

782
00:45:40,932 --> 00:45:44,280
the ruthlessness to
apprehend people...

783
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,365
and then punish them
when they are innocent.

784
00:45:49,463 --> 00:45:52,119
(clapping)

785
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:54,630
- He's a good coach.

786
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,264
- We're praying for FIFA
to remove his sanction.

787
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,948
And the guy from Singapore,

788
00:46:02,972 --> 00:46:05,624
who actually is the
mastermind behind it all.

789
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,850
This is the best bit. This
is what happened to him.

790
00:46:10,491 --> 00:46:12,751
- People may not
like me for what I did,

791
00:46:12,814 --> 00:46:17,447
but indirectly, they have to
also say that I am a person

792
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,828
who has brought
this to the attention,

793
00:46:19,852 --> 00:46:21,369
and they have to wake up.

794
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:24,321
(typing sounds)

795
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,920
If they don't wake up,

796
00:46:31,933 --> 00:46:34,390
somebody else is gonna
hit them like that once again.

797
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,069
So I will say that I
am an eye opener.

798
00:46:38,541 --> 00:46:40,884
And that I have been able to...

799
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,420
knock FIFA's door and say that

800
00:46:45,444 --> 00:46:46,631
"You have to do something more

801
00:46:46,655 --> 00:46:48,064
than what you are
doing right now."

802
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,900
By talking about it,
we grant him the favour...

803
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,205
of ensuring that he
won’t be forgotten.

804
00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:00,468
It allows him to
go down in history

805
00:47:00,492 --> 00:47:03,197
as the biggest
match-fixer ever arrested.

806
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,515
(sound of fans cheering)

807
00:47:08,611 --> 00:47:11,220
(commentary, whistle blowing)

808
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,348
- In hindsight,

809
00:47:17,372 --> 00:47:20,760
if only I had known about
the notion of match-fixing...

810
00:47:20,785 --> 00:47:23,185
I would have been
more attentive.

811
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,320
But back then, the thought
never crossed my mind.

812
00:47:31,315 --> 00:47:33,088
- It's not visible
to these guys.

813
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,237
That's why you need
to have investigations.

814
00:47:35,494 --> 00:47:36,956
That's what you guys realise,

815
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,700
that's why you have
investigative journalists.

816
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,640
- Of course when it happens to
a sport that is so dear to me...

817
00:47:46,665 --> 00:47:48,988
that I live for and
that supports me,

818
00:47:49,012 --> 00:47:52,465
it's obviously a disaster.

819
00:47:57,391 --> 00:47:59,719
I would like to win
money from football,

820
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,108
than to love football,

821
00:48:01,132 --> 00:48:02,268
because the love for football

822
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,723
is not gonna put
food on your table.

823
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:05,684
(laughs)

824
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,731
But he wants to put his
shady past behind him,

825
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,606
and wants to become
a better person.

826
00:48:10,794 --> 00:48:14,372
So... not only is he
a protected witness.

827
00:48:14,844 --> 00:48:19,555
He's now actually become
a Jehovah's witness.

828
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,422
We're working in the
right direction, as a family,

829
00:48:23,548 --> 00:48:25,899
because I would like to
see my children grow up

830
00:48:25,923 --> 00:48:30,959
as God-fearing people,
and responsible citizens.

831
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:34,123
So, I think I should
set a good example.

832
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,795
(ambient electronic music)

833
00:48:44,878 --> 00:48:47,830
(piano music)

834
00:48:49,322 --> 00:48:51,806
- You asked for a
fee for this interview.

835
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,017
Why did you ask a
fee for this interview?

836
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,607
Because I have been approached
by plenty of reporters

837
00:48:57,631 --> 00:48:59,650
asking me questions and...

838
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,755
"What is your opinion of
this and that?" and all...

839
00:49:02,763 --> 00:49:05,588
So I usually tell
reporters that...

840
00:49:05,612 --> 00:49:07,895
basically I am
tired of interviews.

841
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,722
I have done enough police
interviews over the years

842
00:49:10,746 --> 00:49:12,975
that I am so tired
to answer questions.

843
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,668
And I have a family,
I need money,

844
00:49:14,692 --> 00:49:16,796
so if I'm contributing
something,

845
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,589
my time for this and I'm
being honest with my answers.

846
00:49:21,351 --> 00:49:23,194
(typing sounds)

847
00:49:23,445 --> 00:49:24,554
- Okay guys, thank you.

848
00:49:24,578 --> 00:49:26,179
Good night,
enjoy the rest of your evening.

849
00:49:26,838 --> 00:49:32,822
(clapping)

850
00:49:32,877 --> 00:49:35,463
(cheering, clapping)

851
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,564
(melancholy music)

852
00:49:56,848 --> 00:50:01,316
(dramatic piano chord)



