WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:00.488 --> 00:00:05.155 (cow mooing) (clanking) 2 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:16.189 --> 00:00:18.856 (pensive music) 5 00:00:56.521 --> 00:00:58.790 - [Narrator] On December 16th, 2017, 6 00:00:58.790 --> 00:01:00.460 footage shot by the U.S. Navy 7 00:01:00.460 --> 00:01:03.460 spread panic among the American population. 8 00:01:03.460 --> 00:01:06.980 Until then classified as a top secret defense matter, 9 00:01:06.980 --> 00:01:09.660 three videos of unidentified flying objects 10 00:01:09.660 --> 00:01:12.830 filmed by F-18s were made public. 11 00:01:12.830 --> 00:01:16.930 They would be authenticated by the Pentagon in April 2020. 12 00:01:16.930 --> 00:01:20.240 The first video dates from November 2004. 13 00:01:20.240 --> 00:01:21.690 It was filmed by a patrol 14 00:01:21.690 --> 00:01:24.760 flying near the U.S. aircraft carrier, Nimitz. 15 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:27.150 In the footage, a capsule-shaped object 16 00:01:27.150 --> 00:01:30.690 is performing maneuvers that defy the laws of physics. 17 00:01:30.690 --> 00:01:31.660 On that same day, 18 00:01:31.660 --> 00:01:34.540 the radars of the missile cruiser, USS Princeton, 19 00:01:34.540 --> 00:01:37.840 confirmed the presence of several flying objects. 20 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:41.100 An F-18 patrol was immediately dispatched to the spot 21 00:01:41.100 --> 00:01:44.920 and filmed one of what are commonly known as UFOs, 22 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:48.740 but what experts prefer to refer to as UAPs, 23 00:01:48.740 --> 00:01:51.370 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. 24 00:01:51.370 --> 00:01:52.510 Around the same time, 25 00:01:52.510 --> 00:01:54.960 the serious and respected New York Times 26 00:01:54.960 --> 00:01:57.503 revealed the existence of a secret program. 27 00:01:58.770 --> 00:02:00.070 - [Anchor] Tonight, CNN has learned 28 00:02:00.070 --> 00:02:03.430 the Pentagon had a secretive program to research UFOs 29 00:02:03.430 --> 00:02:05.350 like the one Fravor spotted. 30 00:02:05.350 --> 00:02:06.290 The project was called 31 00:02:06.290 --> 00:02:09.430 the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program 32 00:02:09.430 --> 00:02:11.800 run by an official named Luis Elizondo. 33 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:13.260 Tens of millions of dollars 34 00:02:13.260 --> 00:02:15.120 for the project were pushed through 35 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.683 by former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. 36 00:02:19.500 --> 00:02:21.563 - I was a leader of the Senate at the time, 37 00:02:21.563 --> 00:02:26.140 and I went and talked to Senator Inouye from Hawaii, 38 00:02:26.140 --> 00:02:28.260 Senator Stevens from Alaska. 39 00:02:28.260 --> 00:02:31.420 They were the two leading members of Corporations Committee 40 00:02:31.420 --> 00:02:35.960 that determined where money would be spent for defense. 41 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.940 They also controlled what is called the dark money, 42 00:02:38.940 --> 00:02:41.743 the black money, that didn't show up any place. 43 00:02:43.470 --> 00:02:45.913 It was secretive, it was classified. 44 00:02:46.980 --> 00:02:50.410 And so, I asked them to meet in a secure room 45 00:02:50.410 --> 00:02:52.620 in the United States Capitol. 46 00:02:52.620 --> 00:02:55.710 And I said, "Give a little bit of background." 47 00:02:55.710 --> 00:02:59.740 I said, "I want to spend some money trying figure out 48 00:02:59.740 --> 00:03:01.477 what the hell is this all about." 49 00:03:03.810 --> 00:03:06.530 - [Narrative] the U.S. media leapt on these revelations. 50 00:03:06.530 --> 00:03:09.180 The disclosure of the existence of a secret program 51 00:03:09.180 --> 00:03:13.050 to study UFOs at a cost of $22 million 52 00:03:13.050 --> 00:03:14.870 was taken very seriously. 53 00:03:14.870 --> 00:03:17.160 Alain Juillet is the former head of intelligence 54 00:03:17.160 --> 00:03:19.363 for the French Secret Service Overseas. 55 00:03:20.233 --> 00:03:22.200 (speaks in foreign language) 56 00:03:22.200 --> 00:03:24.350 - [Interpreter] The fact that it was a US Senator 57 00:03:24.350 --> 00:03:25.840 who insisted on this inquiry 58 00:03:26.700 --> 00:03:28.750 shows that there was a very real problem. 59 00:03:32.247 --> 00:03:35.110 And the American authorities decided, 60 00:03:35.110 --> 00:03:36.803 due to the senator's request, 61 00:03:37.860 --> 00:03:39.223 to carry out this inquiry. 62 00:03:40.430 --> 00:03:42.170 And it did so because there were 63 00:03:42.170 --> 00:03:44.700 a certain number of phenomena 64 00:03:44.700 --> 00:03:48.143 about which American pilots, along with some others, 65 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.560 were asking very serious questions 66 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.580 due to the images they had filmed or seen. 67 00:03:55.580 --> 00:03:59.060 - [Narrator] In the States, the story hit the headlines, 68 00:03:59.060 --> 00:04:01.690 and David Fravor, one of the F-18 pilots 69 00:04:01.690 --> 00:04:03.440 flying during the Nimitz case, 70 00:04:03.440 --> 00:04:06.263 gave his account on CNN at peak viewing time. 71 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:09.360 - Well, the first thing is it had no wings, 72 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:11.680 so you think, "Okay, it's a helicopter." 73 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.240 But there's no rotor wash in the water. 74 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:14.420 There's no rotors. 75 00:04:14.420 --> 00:04:16.500 This was extremely abrupt, like a ping pong ball 76 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:17.333 bouncing off a wall. 77 00:04:17.333 --> 00:04:18.480 It would hit and go the other way, 78 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:20.820 and change directions at will. 79 00:04:20.820 --> 00:04:23.380 And then the ability to hover over the water, 80 00:04:23.380 --> 00:04:26.210 and then start a vertical climb from basically zero 81 00:04:26.210 --> 00:04:28.340 up towards about 12,000 feet, 82 00:04:28.340 --> 00:04:31.030 and then accelerate in less than two seconds and disappear 83 00:04:31.030 --> 00:04:33.600 is something I had never seen in my life. 84 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:35.670 I believe, as do the other folks 85 00:04:35.670 --> 00:04:37.890 that were on the flight, when we visually saw it, 86 00:04:37.890 --> 00:04:39.990 that it was something not from this world. 87 00:04:41.690 --> 00:04:42.670 - [Narrator] For the experts, 88 00:04:42.670 --> 00:04:45.060 this eyewitness account was mind-blowing, 89 00:04:45.060 --> 00:04:47.040 and legitimized the film. 90 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.430 Until then, the military had rarely given its opinion. 91 00:04:50.430 --> 00:04:53.920 a massive shift had just taken place in the United States. 92 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.990 - The United States military has said, 93 00:04:55.990 --> 00:04:59.293 okay, there's no need trying to keep all this secret. 94 00:05:00.410 --> 00:05:04.110 So pilots can report these phenomenon 95 00:05:04.110 --> 00:05:06.840 without fear of not being promoted. 96 00:05:06.840 --> 00:05:08.800 They can report these to their superiors. 97 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.250 They couldn't do that before. 98 00:05:11.840 --> 00:05:13.690 - [Narrator] But the Americans aren't the only ones 99 00:05:13.690 --> 00:05:15.780 to study this subject seriously. 100 00:05:15.780 --> 00:05:17.780 Across the globe, a number of countries 101 00:05:17.780 --> 00:05:20.340 have established organizations or programs 102 00:05:20.340 --> 00:05:23.000 to carry out research into UAP. 103 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:24.750 In France, the SIGMA 2 commission 104 00:05:24.750 --> 00:05:27.773 examines the most credible incidents like the Nimitz case. 105 00:05:27.773 --> 00:05:29.820 - [Interpreter] So we tried to reconstruct 106 00:05:29.820 --> 00:05:31.880 what had been observed during the Naval exercises 107 00:05:31.880 --> 00:05:34.980 carried out around the Nimitz, the Princeton, et cetera, 108 00:05:34.980 --> 00:05:39.980 between November 10th and 13th, 2004. 109 00:05:40.020 --> 00:05:41.810 A certain number of repeated detections 110 00:05:41.810 --> 00:05:45.300 were picked up by the radars between eight and 20 miles 111 00:05:45.300 --> 00:05:48.130 to the South of Catalina Island off California 112 00:05:49.540 --> 00:05:53.113 at 80,000 feet and moving at about 100 knots. 113 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.810 Now, 100 knots is extremely slow 114 00:05:56.810 --> 00:05:59.373 for an aircraft flying at such an altitude. 115 00:06:01.550 --> 00:06:03.420 - [Narrator] Formed in 2013, SIGMA 2 116 00:06:03.420 --> 00:06:05.770 was made up of fighter pilots, engineers, 117 00:06:05.770 --> 00:06:08.100 military officials, and even astronauts 118 00:06:08.100 --> 00:06:10.100 such as Jean-Francois Clervoy. 119 00:06:10.100 --> 00:06:12.560 As for Pierre Bescond, he's a former director 120 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:14.790 of the space center in Kourou French Guiana, 121 00:06:14.790 --> 00:06:17.090 where the famous Ariane rockets were launched. 122 00:06:18.770 --> 00:06:19.960 - [Interpreter 1] I don't agree with scientists 123 00:06:19.960 --> 00:06:21.693 who immediately say it's baloney. 124 00:06:22.893 --> 00:06:23.726 No. 125 00:06:24.830 --> 00:06:26.240 If observations are made by those 126 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:28.400 whose job it is to make observations, 127 00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:30.630 like fighter pilots, for example, 128 00:06:30.630 --> 00:06:32.480 then what they've seen isn't baloney. 129 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:36.810 If you don't understand something, 130 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:38.380 then you put it on a shelf 131 00:06:38.380 --> 00:06:40.690 and wait till there's a better scientific understanding 132 00:06:40.690 --> 00:06:43.200 of the physical phenomenon, 133 00:06:43.200 --> 00:06:45.650 until the correct study of it can be carried out. 134 00:06:46.750 --> 00:06:48.340 But you don't just discard it as baloney. 135 00:06:48.340 --> 00:06:50.640 In my mind, that's nonsensical. 136 00:06:50.640 --> 00:06:52.170 - [Interpreter 2] It's not a question of believing 137 00:06:52.170 --> 00:06:54.770 in UFO's or UAPs or not. 138 00:06:54.770 --> 00:06:57.483 Serious research is being carried on on the subject. 139 00:06:58.330 --> 00:07:00.350 This radar detected 14 echoes 140 00:07:00.350 --> 00:07:03.990 spread uniformly over a distance of about 100 miles 141 00:07:03.990 --> 00:07:08.170 at altitudes of between 28,000 feet and 500 feet. 142 00:07:08.170 --> 00:07:11.070 And these readings correlate with those from other radars. 143 00:07:13.970 --> 00:07:16.450 - [Narrator] SIGMA 2 works closely with the CNES, 144 00:07:16.450 --> 00:07:18.850 the French National Center for Space Studies, 145 00:07:18.850 --> 00:07:22.250 and more precisely with one of its branches, GEIPAN, 146 00:07:22.250 --> 00:07:25.610 Group for the Study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. 147 00:07:25.610 --> 00:07:28.010 For more than 40 years, they've been trying to shed light 148 00:07:28.010 --> 00:07:29.750 on the origin of certain UAPs. 149 00:07:35.050 --> 00:07:37.720 - [Interpreter] GEIPAN is tasked with collecting, 150 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:41.300 examining and analyzing sightings made by eyewitnesses 151 00:07:41.300 --> 00:07:42.343 on French soil. 152 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.050 - [Narrator] Indeed, it was one such incident in France, 153 00:07:48.050 --> 00:07:50.970 very similar to the case revealed by the U.S. Navy, 154 00:07:50.970 --> 00:07:53.440 which was behind the founding of GEIPAN. 155 00:07:53.440 --> 00:07:55.790 A former head of the group Jean-Jacques Velasco 156 00:07:55.790 --> 00:07:59.460 in charge for 21 years and now an independent expert, 157 00:07:59.460 --> 00:08:01.300 clearly remembers the unsolved case 158 00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:03.433 at the origin of the group's creation. 159 00:08:07.610 --> 00:08:11.280 - [Interpreter 1] In France one siting in 1951 160 00:08:11.280 --> 00:08:12.733 involved the air force. 161 00:08:17.380 --> 00:08:20.320 Fighter pilots out on a patrolling mission 162 00:08:20.320 --> 00:08:22.070 observed over the town of Orange 163 00:08:23.364 --> 00:08:26.873 an object moving at the same speed as their own planes. 164 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:31.133 when they flew alongside to intercept it, 165 00:08:33.450 --> 00:08:34.950 it suddenly accelerated 166 00:08:36.920 --> 00:08:38.983 and flew off at incredible speed. 167 00:08:40.650 --> 00:08:43.970 A report was submitted to the air force chief of staff. 168 00:08:43.970 --> 00:08:45.913 And it went all the way up to the minister. 169 00:08:48.290 --> 00:08:50.750 And then recommendations were made 170 00:08:50.750 --> 00:08:52.930 to create a French agency 171 00:08:55.800 --> 00:08:58.623 to collect and analyze data on UAPs. 172 00:09:01.866 --> 00:09:05.160 And that's how Claude Poher, the ufologist and astronomer 173 00:09:05.160 --> 00:09:09.133 at CNES was given the task of founding GEIPAN. 174 00:09:11.424 --> 00:09:12.630 - [Interpreter 2] It was a very brave move 175 00:09:12.630 --> 00:09:14.690 by the CNES at the time 176 00:09:14.690 --> 00:09:18.503 to decide to respond to such questions and create GEIPAN. 177 00:09:19.561 --> 00:09:23.020 It was very brave because it was a scientific approach. 178 00:09:23.020 --> 00:09:26.610 Certain phenomena are cited that we don't understand, 179 00:09:26.610 --> 00:09:29.140 so we'll question the people who saw them, 180 00:09:29.140 --> 00:09:32.310 said about studying them and try to find some answers. 181 00:09:32.310 --> 00:09:34.633 It was a very scientific approach. 182 00:09:36.510 --> 00:09:37.810 - [Interpreter 1] At first patrol was sent out 183 00:09:37.810 --> 00:09:40.023 to about 60 miles from the Nimitz. 184 00:09:41.420 --> 00:09:43.713 A trace of foam was observed at sea level. 185 00:09:47.050 --> 00:09:50.020 So one of the F-18s made a fast downward move 186 00:09:50.020 --> 00:09:51.793 towards this area of foam. 187 00:09:55.893 --> 00:09:58.430 There was an object described as a big Tic Tac, 188 00:09:58.430 --> 00:10:01.370 which changed course and began to climb. 189 00:10:01.370 --> 00:10:02.340 So there was a maneuver 190 00:10:02.340 --> 00:10:04.253 which could be considered intelligent. 191 00:10:07.460 --> 00:10:09.073 A second patrol was sent out, 192 00:10:09.910 --> 00:10:11.180 but it wasn't until the third group 193 00:10:11.180 --> 00:10:15.930 of F-18s reached the area equipped with infrared cameras, 194 00:10:15.930 --> 00:10:18.173 that they could capture the famous images. 195 00:10:19.870 --> 00:10:21.360 - [Narrator] And along with the images, 196 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.604 the comments of the stupefied U.S. Navy pilots. 197 00:10:24.604 --> 00:10:27.686 - [Pilot] There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the S.A. 198 00:10:27.686 --> 00:10:28.519 My gosh. 199 00:10:30.760 --> 00:10:31.965 They are going against the wind. 200 00:10:31.965 --> 00:10:34.251 The wind is 120 miles to the west. 201 00:10:34.251 --> 00:10:36.334 Look at that thing, dude. 202 00:10:44.753 --> 00:10:49.231 That's not a (indistinct), is it? 203 00:10:49.231 --> 00:10:50.750 Look at that thing! 204 00:10:50.750 --> 00:10:51.583 It's rotating. 205 00:10:52.770 --> 00:10:57.170 - [Interpreter] Here was something undeniable as it were, 206 00:10:57.170 --> 00:10:59.380 the pilots saw it, the cameras filmed it, 207 00:10:59.380 --> 00:11:00.973 the control tower picked it up. 208 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.700 Suddenly there was a real problem. 209 00:11:05.160 --> 00:11:06.490 - [Interpreter] A certain number of cases 210 00:11:06.490 --> 00:11:08.763 clearly show interaction with the planes. 211 00:11:10.937 --> 00:11:12.083 And this was proven. 212 00:11:14.290 --> 00:11:17.510 When you take the number of aerial cases worldwide, 213 00:11:17.510 --> 00:11:21.843 officially recorded cases, there were about 2,000 of them, 214 00:11:24.087 --> 00:11:27.350 and 140 of these feature the same stereotypes 215 00:11:27.350 --> 00:11:30.033 that have been reported since 1947, 216 00:11:32.250 --> 00:11:36.170 objects with speeds that can go from zero 217 00:11:36.170 --> 00:11:40.883 up to 10,000, 20,000 kilometers an hour recorded by radars. 218 00:11:42.310 --> 00:11:44.523 Absolutely phenomenal accelerations. 219 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:48.753 Trajectories, which are totally impossible for our planes. 220 00:11:51.890 --> 00:11:55.900 Spinning around our planes, climbing vertically, 221 00:11:55.900 --> 00:11:58.600 then zooming off horizontally. 222 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.260 - What I say is this: 223 00:12:02.183 --> 00:12:05.810 we originally thought these were confined to the air, 224 00:12:05.810 --> 00:12:08.800 but that's not what we know now. 225 00:12:08.800 --> 00:12:11.430 There have been a very unusual occurrences 226 00:12:11.430 --> 00:12:13.560 in the water, in the ocean, 227 00:12:13.560 --> 00:12:16.440 not once, but numerous times now. 228 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:19.620 people reporting strange things happening to ships. 229 00:12:19.620 --> 00:12:22.393 Sometimes our communication is just terminated. 230 00:12:23.530 --> 00:12:26.440 So yes, I think it's extremely important 231 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.780 that we do everything we can 232 00:12:28.780 --> 00:12:31.230 to find out what this is all about. 233 00:12:31.230 --> 00:12:33.813 (uneasy music) 234 00:12:42.420 --> 00:12:45.227 - [Interpreter] Periodically, Pentagon 235 00:12:45.227 --> 00:12:47.530 and the U.S. air force chief of staff 236 00:12:47.530 --> 00:12:48.680 show interest in UFO's, 237 00:12:51.880 --> 00:12:55.403 because there are regular alerts that pose big questions. 238 00:12:57.762 --> 00:12:59.883 This is very worrying for the military, 239 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.783 because soldiers like to know who they are facing. 240 00:13:05.140 --> 00:13:08.670 So if you're faced with something you don't understand 241 00:13:08.670 --> 00:13:11.750 and therefore can't master, it's only natural for them 242 00:13:11.750 --> 00:13:14.559 to try to understand and set up commissions 243 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:16.300 to find out what exactly was going on 244 00:13:16.300 --> 00:13:17.650 with some of the sightings. 245 00:13:18.890 --> 00:13:20.660 - [Narrator] And these worries aren't recent. 246 00:13:20.660 --> 00:13:23.410 Since the end of World War II, the U.S. authorities 247 00:13:23.410 --> 00:13:25.170 have established several commissions 248 00:13:25.170 --> 00:13:27.210 to investigate such phenomena, 249 00:13:27.210 --> 00:13:29.420 notably project Blue Book, 250 00:13:29.420 --> 00:13:32.220 for which the famous astronomer J. Allen Hynek 251 00:13:32.220 --> 00:13:34.260 was the scientific consultant. 252 00:13:34.260 --> 00:13:37.395 He didn't believe in UFO's, but after several years of study 253 00:13:37.395 --> 00:13:40.899 he began to have doubts and finally validated the reality 254 00:13:40.899 --> 00:13:43.173 of these unexplained phenomena. 255 00:13:44.160 --> 00:13:46.595 At the time, the U.S. military was already forced 256 00:13:46.595 --> 00:13:49.633 to communicate on these very special cases. 257 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:57.233 - I am here to discuss the so-called flying saucers. 258 00:13:58.450 --> 00:14:01.299 The air force interest in this problem 259 00:14:01.299 --> 00:14:03.910 has been due to our feeling of an obligation 260 00:14:03.910 --> 00:14:08.890 to identify and analyze to the best of our ability 261 00:14:08.890 --> 00:14:13.720 anything in the air that may have the possibility of threat 262 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:15.423 or menace to the United States. 263 00:14:16.640 --> 00:14:20.183 In pursuit of this obligation, since 1947, 264 00:14:21.090 --> 00:14:25.363 we have received and analyzed between one and 2,000 reports. 265 00:14:26.510 --> 00:14:29.110 However, there have been a certain percentage 266 00:14:29.110 --> 00:14:30.680 of this volume of reports 267 00:14:31.830 --> 00:14:35.280 that have been made by credible observers 268 00:14:35.280 --> 00:14:37.593 of relatively incredible thing. 269 00:14:39.130 --> 00:14:41.360 It is this group of observations 270 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.983 that we now are attempting to resolve. 271 00:14:45.180 --> 00:14:46.960 - [Narrator] Today, the U.S. is still driven 272 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:48.580 by the same preoccupations. 273 00:14:48.580 --> 00:14:51.710 Nothing has changed. They fear for homeland security. 274 00:14:51.710 --> 00:14:55.060 They must protect their population from a potential attack. 275 00:14:55.060 --> 00:14:58.430 Like in the 1950s, this concern motivated officials 276 00:14:58.430 --> 00:15:01.080 to analyze new footage shot by the U.S. Navy 277 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:02.240 in recent years. 278 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:05.233 This was the reason behind the famous ATIP program. 279 00:15:06.370 --> 00:15:11.010 - There are scores and scores of occurrences 280 00:15:11.010 --> 00:15:12.370 that are reported. 281 00:15:12.370 --> 00:15:13.720 And not only that, our technology 282 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.670 has gotten much better on airplanes, 283 00:15:15.670 --> 00:15:18.120 and they can take pictures of these things. 284 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.370 And we've got some stunningly good pictures of them. 285 00:15:21.370 --> 00:15:23.770 Are they a threat? I don't know. 286 00:15:23.770 --> 00:15:26.930 But I do know that we can't turn our heads 287 00:15:26.930 --> 00:15:29.893 and pretend they don't exist, because they do exist. 288 00:15:31.914 --> 00:15:34.031 - [Pilot 1] (mumbling) object on the- 289 00:15:34.031 --> 00:15:37.780 - [Pilot 2] Oh my god, dude! (laughing) 290 00:15:37.780 --> 00:15:40.067 - [Pilot 1] Roger. 291 00:15:40.067 --> 00:15:42.399 - [Pilot 2] Look at this right here! 292 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:45.065 You got to (indistinct). 293 00:15:45.065 --> 00:15:46.381 - [Pilot 1] No, I took (indistinct). 294 00:15:46.381 --> 00:15:47.989 - [Pilot 2] Oh, okay. 295 00:15:47.989 --> 00:15:49.607 - [Pilot 1] Oh my gosh, dude. 296 00:15:49.607 --> 00:15:54.607 - [Pilot 2] Wow, what is that? (indistinct) 297 00:15:54.912 --> 00:15:56.330 - [Interpreter] After World War II, 298 00:15:56.330 --> 00:15:57.870 a lot of Americans believed 299 00:15:57.870 --> 00:16:00.043 that the Russians were behind UFO's. 300 00:16:01.740 --> 00:16:05.000 They thought the reds have discovered new technologies 301 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:06.853 and they're using them to spy on us. 302 00:16:08.530 --> 00:16:11.123 If it were one of the super powers behind UFO's, 303 00:16:12.797 --> 00:16:15.870 the U.S., Russia or China, 304 00:16:15.870 --> 00:16:17.820 since the beginning of these incidents, 305 00:16:18.880 --> 00:16:21.470 there would certainly have been a leak at some point 306 00:16:21.470 --> 00:16:23.020 to show that this was the case. 307 00:16:23.860 --> 00:16:27.450 But no intelligence has ever come out on this subject, 308 00:16:27.450 --> 00:16:30.130 neither confirming, nor refuting 309 00:16:30.130 --> 00:16:32.350 that it's the Russians, the Americans, or the Chinese. 310 00:16:32.350 --> 00:16:35.000 So I don't believe that. I think it's something else. 311 00:16:40.770 --> 00:16:42.920 - [Narrator] Something else? Then what? 312 00:16:42.920 --> 00:16:44.990 While those in charge are asking questions, 313 00:16:44.990 --> 00:16:47.050 so too is the general public. 314 00:16:47.050 --> 00:16:49.400 And that's the mission of Mufon. 315 00:16:49.400 --> 00:16:53.110 Since the 1950s, this network of scientists and engineers 316 00:16:53.110 --> 00:16:55.520 have collected piles of eyewitness accounts 317 00:16:55.520 --> 00:16:57.520 from across the United States. 318 00:16:57.520 --> 00:16:59.740 It even has branches in Europe. 319 00:16:59.740 --> 00:17:01.300 It has a long reaching network 320 00:17:01.300 --> 00:17:03.980 with investigators in every state. 321 00:17:03.980 --> 00:17:05.770 Mufon is taken very seriously 322 00:17:05.770 --> 00:17:07.810 even by the American government. 323 00:17:07.810 --> 00:17:10.120 It was one of its reports that drew the interest 324 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:11.650 of Senator Harry Reid 325 00:17:11.650 --> 00:17:14.113 and gave rise to the famous AATIP program. 326 00:17:15.290 --> 00:17:18.720 - Based on the information in the Mufon database, 327 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:23.510 that information was used to justify to Congress funding 328 00:17:23.510 --> 00:17:26.090 for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification program, 329 00:17:26.090 --> 00:17:27.380 which is what was revealed 330 00:17:27.380 --> 00:17:32.380 in the December 16th, 2017 Times' front page article 331 00:17:32.470 --> 00:17:34.840 about the Pentagon secret UFO development. 332 00:17:34.840 --> 00:17:36.770 It was the Mufon data that was used 333 00:17:36.770 --> 00:17:40.510 to justify getting that program in place. 334 00:17:40.510 --> 00:17:42.570 10 years later, when the story broke 335 00:17:42.570 --> 00:17:44.440 on the front page of New York Times, 336 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:47.820 that was really the beginning of disclosure, in my opinion, 337 00:17:47.820 --> 00:17:49.570 for this being a real phenomenon 338 00:17:49.570 --> 00:17:51.470 and for people paying attention to it. 339 00:17:53.910 --> 00:17:56.210 - [Narrator] Disclosure, the key word. 340 00:17:56.210 --> 00:17:59.910 Was this revelation involuntary or organized? 341 00:17:59.910 --> 00:18:03.080 In effect, since December 16th, 2017, 342 00:18:03.080 --> 00:18:05.150 military officials and politicians 343 00:18:05.150 --> 00:18:07.313 have regularly appeared in the media. 344 00:18:09.810 --> 00:18:10.670 - [Interpreter] There is undeniably 345 00:18:10.670 --> 00:18:12.243 a communication operation. 346 00:18:13.460 --> 00:18:17.980 It's hard to imagine, in the United States army offices, 347 00:18:17.980 --> 00:18:20.250 former Pentagon officials et cetera, 348 00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:23.650 are communicating like this in a totally free 349 00:18:23.650 --> 00:18:26.890 and unbridled way, without there being 350 00:18:26.890 --> 00:18:28.783 some kind of framework behind them. 351 00:18:31.570 --> 00:18:32.560 - [Interpreter] The moment that you have 352 00:18:32.560 --> 00:18:35.640 a communication campaign with expert professionals 353 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:40.640 explaining things, the least that you can say 354 00:18:40.930 --> 00:18:42.700 is that it's an awareness campaign 355 00:18:42.700 --> 00:18:44.100 for the American population. 356 00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:46.870 The least you can say. 357 00:18:46.870 --> 00:18:49.740 It could also be preparation for a new reality, 358 00:18:49.740 --> 00:18:51.630 with the authorities telling people, 359 00:18:51.630 --> 00:18:55.360 this is how it really is, so that we're all ready for it. 360 00:18:55.360 --> 00:18:59.890 Imagine us simply being told, okay, we're now certain: 361 00:18:59.890 --> 00:19:02.853 our world is visited by beings from other worlds, 362 00:19:06.150 --> 00:19:10.043 or passages between several worlds have been opened up. 363 00:19:11.600 --> 00:19:12.960 That would cause a huge problem 364 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:15.304 and get a lot of people thinking, 365 00:19:15.304 --> 00:19:19.093 because humankind would be entering unchartered territory, 366 00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:22.800 territory where we're no longer in control of things. 367 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:27.920 We think they're friendly, but we're not really sure. 368 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:30.870 That means being confronted with something we can't master. 369 00:19:32.896 --> 00:19:34.850 And human beings, today more than ever, 370 00:19:34.850 --> 00:19:38.213 hate being in situations where they have no control. 371 00:19:40.830 --> 00:19:42.920 - [Narrator] This is clearly what the American experts 372 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:44.660 inside Mufon think. 373 00:19:44.660 --> 00:19:46.520 Paul Hynek is well-placed to know it. 374 00:19:46.520 --> 00:19:48.890 He's the son of the scientific consultant 375 00:19:48.890 --> 00:19:52.200 of the famous project Blue Book in the '50s and '60s 376 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:53.630 J. Allen Hynek. 377 00:19:53.630 --> 00:19:56.410 He was raised amid piles of UFO reports 378 00:19:56.410 --> 00:19:59.610 and he now sees a shift in the recent communication policies 379 00:19:59.610 --> 00:20:01.360 of the American government. 380 00:20:01.360 --> 00:20:05.173 - The disclosure of the existence of the AATIP program, 381 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:09.400 Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program, 382 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:13.900 and their recent disclosures about what the Navy has seen 383 00:20:13.900 --> 00:20:15.970 and admitted that they've been seeing 384 00:20:15.970 --> 00:20:18.890 for over nine month periods of UFOs every day almost. 385 00:20:18.890 --> 00:20:20.370 And they can't explain them, 386 00:20:20.370 --> 00:20:22.150 and to be frank, they need some help. 387 00:20:22.150 --> 00:20:23.610 That's rather startling. 388 00:20:23.610 --> 00:20:26.500 It's very candid confession on the part of the government. 389 00:20:26.500 --> 00:20:30.100 So it certainly seems, and my friend Richard Dolan 390 00:20:30.100 --> 00:20:32.870 is very convincing in a presentation he makes 391 00:20:32.870 --> 00:20:35.920 of sort of the timeline of events leading up 392 00:20:36.770 --> 00:20:39.690 to what may be a grand disclosure. 393 00:20:39.690 --> 00:20:42.120 There certainly seems to be activity 394 00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:44.130 by the U.S. government recently 395 00:20:44.130 --> 00:20:47.310 that's consistent with that of a government 396 00:20:47.310 --> 00:20:49.750 that's acclimating the populace 397 00:20:49.750 --> 00:20:51.853 to a potential grand disclosure. 398 00:20:53.590 --> 00:20:55.510 - [Narrator] Paul Hynek and the other members of Mufon 399 00:20:55.510 --> 00:20:58.540 are convinced: in 2018 they even invited 400 00:20:58.540 --> 00:21:02.480 the former head of AATIP, Luis Elizondo, as a guest speaker. 401 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:04.270 He confirmed their intuitions. 402 00:21:04.270 --> 00:21:06.880 - I think disclosure already occurred. 403 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.190 I don't think necessarily disclosure is an event. 404 00:21:09.190 --> 00:21:10.890 I think it's a process. 405 00:21:10.890 --> 00:21:12.440 And I think that process began. 406 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:13.920 This is real. 407 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:17.760 This is what your $22 million worth of tax money 408 00:21:17.760 --> 00:21:19.220 was spent on. 409 00:21:19.220 --> 00:21:20.420 And there's a lot of it. 410 00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:24.830 - [Narrator] But what purpose did this $22 million serve? 411 00:21:24.830 --> 00:21:28.370 What light has been shed on unidentified aerial phenomena? 412 00:21:28.370 --> 00:21:29.750 What studies exactly 413 00:21:29.750 --> 00:21:32.880 did the Americans carry out within AATIP? 414 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:36.210 Work was essentially overseen by Bigelow Aerospace, 415 00:21:36.210 --> 00:21:38.940 a company run by Robert Bigelow, 416 00:21:38.940 --> 00:21:40.700 a businessman with strong views 417 00:21:40.700 --> 00:21:43.703 who's convinced extra terrestrial life exists. 418 00:21:44.900 --> 00:21:47.470 - I'm absolutely convinced. That's all there is to it. 419 00:21:47.470 --> 00:21:50.650 - Do you also believe that UFO's have come to earth? 420 00:21:50.650 --> 00:21:52.781 - There has been and is an existing presence, 421 00:21:52.781 --> 00:21:54.102 an ET presence. 422 00:21:54.102 --> 00:21:54.935 - Where exactly? 423 00:21:54.935 --> 00:21:56.620 - It's just like right under people's noses. 424 00:21:56.620 --> 00:21:59.920 Oh my gosh. Wow. 425 00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:02.010 - [Narrator] Why did Senator Reid decide to work 426 00:22:02.010 --> 00:22:03.600 with Bigelow Aerospace? 427 00:22:03.600 --> 00:22:05.880 A choice that may seem surprising 428 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.850 and one that earned him a good deal of reproach. 429 00:22:08.850 --> 00:22:11.360 Today, he still backs his decision. 430 00:22:11.360 --> 00:22:12.943 - I wanted to spend this money. 431 00:22:13.780 --> 00:22:16.590 I indicated $22 million. 432 00:22:16.590 --> 00:22:19.170 But we couldn't direct that money to someone. 433 00:22:19.170 --> 00:22:21.330 So we put it out for bid, 434 00:22:21.330 --> 00:22:23.640 and everybody had the opportunity 435 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:25.970 that was interested to bid on it. 436 00:22:25.970 --> 00:22:29.670 Bigelow bid on it and the United States military thought 437 00:22:29.670 --> 00:22:31.470 his bid was the best. 438 00:22:31.470 --> 00:22:33.820 And so that's why he undertook this. 439 00:22:33.820 --> 00:22:36.443 And he did it for a number of reasons. 440 00:22:36.443 --> 00:22:40.760 First of all, he's been interested in these objects 441 00:22:40.760 --> 00:22:42.500 for many, many years. 442 00:22:42.500 --> 00:22:44.780 And because of that, he was willing 443 00:22:44.780 --> 00:22:48.630 to provide a lot more than any that of the bidders would do. 444 00:22:48.630 --> 00:22:53.200 I mean, office space and space for technology. 445 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.401 He did a good job of appearing for his bid 446 00:22:55.401 --> 00:22:58.183 and he got the bid, and I'm glad he did. 447 00:22:59.890 --> 00:23:03.080 - [Narrator] So what fields did Bigelow Aerospace work in? 448 00:23:03.080 --> 00:23:05.390 This document recently declassified 449 00:23:05.390 --> 00:23:07.610 by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency 450 00:23:07.610 --> 00:23:10.650 reveals the research carried out by the company. 451 00:23:10.650 --> 00:23:14.030 In all 38 ultra complex fields of study 452 00:23:14.030 --> 00:23:15.970 covering futuristic technologies 453 00:23:15.970 --> 00:23:18.020 we've yet to master today. 454 00:23:18.020 --> 00:23:22.900 For example, anti-gravity, nuclear propulsion in deep space, 455 00:23:22.900 --> 00:23:26.470 wormholes allowing us to pass into parallel universes, 456 00:23:26.470 --> 00:23:30.060 negative energy, and magnetohydrodynamics. 457 00:23:30.060 --> 00:23:32.984 It wasn't down to chance that this cutting edge research 458 00:23:32.984 --> 00:23:35.563 was carried out by Bigelow Aerospace. 459 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.440 In 1995, even before founding his company, 460 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.250 Robert Bigelow had created the National Institute 461 00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:46.740 for Discovery Science with the aim of shedding light 462 00:23:46.740 --> 00:23:51.360 on a number of scientific mysteries, including UFOs. 463 00:23:51.360 --> 00:23:54.060 He invested millions from his private fortune. 464 00:23:54.060 --> 00:23:55.840 It's simple to the experts: 465 00:23:55.840 --> 00:23:58.920 Robert Bigelow is a national hero. 466 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:00.470 - Robert Bigelow has spent more money 467 00:24:00.470 --> 00:24:04.120 than any other individual in the world, his private money, 468 00:24:04.120 --> 00:24:05.760 to fund UFO research. 469 00:24:05.760 --> 00:24:08.410 So he's actually a hero within the UFO community, 470 00:24:08.410 --> 00:24:09.750 in my opinion. 471 00:24:09.750 --> 00:24:13.550 And he's a stellar guy and he runs the Bigelow Aerospace 472 00:24:13.550 --> 00:24:14.910 out in Las Vegas, 473 00:24:14.910 --> 00:24:19.180 which builds inflatable habitats for space, right? 474 00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:23.160 So I think I'm happy to hear him being successful 475 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.029 in his work with NASA and his work with his space program. 476 00:24:26.029 --> 00:24:28.710 I thank him for the time we spent together. 477 00:24:28.710 --> 00:24:31.050 And I think it's all leading us in the right direction 478 00:24:31.050 --> 00:24:32.080 in terms of disclosure. 479 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:33.280 So I'm excited about it. 480 00:24:34.130 --> 00:24:37.010 - [Narrator] Over the years, serious unimpeachable figures 481 00:24:37.010 --> 00:24:40.510 have worked with Bigelow: Dr. John B. Alexander, 482 00:24:40.510 --> 00:24:44.410 the pillar of the military research lab at Los Alamos, 483 00:24:44.410 --> 00:24:48.070 and Edgar D. Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon. 484 00:24:48.070 --> 00:24:51.770 And after years of research, their verdict is unequivocal. 485 00:24:51.770 --> 00:24:53.610 - [Edgar] I happen to be privileged enough 486 00:24:53.610 --> 00:24:56.943 to be in on the fact 487 00:24:56.943 --> 00:24:59.760 that we have been visited on this planet, 488 00:24:59.760 --> 00:25:01.930 and the UFO phenomenon is real, 489 00:25:01.930 --> 00:25:03.740 although it's been covered up by our government 490 00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:05.390 for quite a long time. 491 00:25:05.390 --> 00:25:07.660 - [Interviewer] Whoa! Hang on a minute! 492 00:25:07.660 --> 00:25:08.560 Well, this is big. 493 00:25:10.130 --> 00:25:14.240 So, whoa, all of this is quite a shock to me. 494 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:15.510 - [Edgar] Well, I'm sorry. 495 00:25:15.510 --> 00:25:17.030 Have you not been reading the papers recently, 496 00:25:17.030 --> 00:25:19.520 it's starting to open up quite a bit. 497 00:25:19.520 --> 00:25:22.230 - [Interviewer] So you're telling me, (chuckling) 498 00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:24.040 well, there's a lot of information to take on board. 499 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:25.030 Hang on a minute. 500 00:25:25.030 --> 00:25:29.100 I mean, listen, I've heard like, you know, crazy UFO nuts 501 00:25:29.100 --> 00:25:30.610 tell me this kind of thing before. 502 00:25:30.610 --> 00:25:33.610 I've never had Dr. Ed Mitchell, 503 00:25:33.610 --> 00:25:36.450 you know, the sixth man to walk on the moon, 504 00:25:36.450 --> 00:25:39.219 a respected scientist in his own right 505 00:25:39.219 --> 00:25:42.790 announce to me that we've been visited 506 00:25:42.790 --> 00:25:45.750 by aliens from other planets 507 00:25:45.750 --> 00:25:47.750 and that they definitely are out there, 508 00:25:47.750 --> 00:25:49.320 there's no debating it. 509 00:25:49.320 --> 00:25:50.153 - [Edgar] Well, that's your first time 510 00:25:50.153 --> 00:25:50.986 you've ever talked to me 511 00:25:50.986 --> 00:25:53.332 or I'd have told you about it before. 512 00:25:53.332 --> 00:25:56.665 (interviewer chuckling) 513 00:26:00.157 --> 00:26:01.490 - [Narrator] And for Edgar Mitchell, 514 00:26:01.490 --> 00:26:03.450 along with many other specialists, 515 00:26:03.450 --> 00:26:06.350 the nuclear industry has a close link with the phenomenon. 516 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:10.090 - [Interpreter] Nuclear nuclear testing 517 00:26:10.090 --> 00:26:14.060 was a very scary thing, because 540 nuclear 518 00:26:14.060 --> 00:26:18.300 or thermonuclear bombs have been exploded in the atmosphere, 519 00:26:18.300 --> 00:26:19.834 which is a lot. 520 00:26:19.834 --> 00:26:24.200 And that corresponds mainly to the period 1960 to '61, 521 00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.160 when there was one explosion every three days 522 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.127 carried out by the Americans or the Soviets. 523 00:26:29.127 --> 00:26:31.877 (dramatic music) 524 00:26:33.747 --> 00:26:36.580 (explosion booms) 525 00:26:39.290 --> 00:26:41.433 - [Commentator] This is atomic energy. 526 00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:46.040 - [Interpreter] In 1949, there were already clues 527 00:26:46.040 --> 00:26:48.480 as to why these surprising phenomena were reported 528 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:50.943 in certain geographical areas. 529 00:26:53.510 --> 00:26:57.343 Nuclear sites in particular were irregularly flown over. 530 00:26:58.300 --> 00:27:00.090 For two top secret commissions, 531 00:27:00.090 --> 00:27:02.760 since disclosed to the public, 532 00:27:02.760 --> 00:27:05.650 Edward Teller, the scientific advisor to the White House, 533 00:27:05.650 --> 00:27:07.360 was a participant. 534 00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:09.120 He was the father of the hydrogen bomb. 535 00:27:09.120 --> 00:27:13.440 He claimed that UFO's had flown over several nucleus sites, 536 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.270 notably Oak Ridge, where plutonium was manufactured. 537 00:27:16.270 --> 00:27:19.160 A missile test range White Sands, 538 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:21.870 Roswell were a nuclear bombers were once based, 539 00:27:21.870 --> 00:27:23.480 basically a whole host of things 540 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.163 pointing to UFO's flying over these places. 541 00:27:27.040 --> 00:27:31.270 - For example, I learned that a number of our missile bases 542 00:27:32.410 --> 00:27:35.390 in the Midwest, Dakotas, up that way, 543 00:27:35.390 --> 00:27:38.040 that they had been shut down. 544 00:27:38.040 --> 00:27:42.710 They would come out at night, almost always at nighttime, 545 00:27:42.710 --> 00:27:46.170 and they would look up and see these objects in the air, 546 00:27:46.170 --> 00:27:48.590 and they shut off all the communications 547 00:27:48.590 --> 00:27:49.910 in the missile site. 548 00:27:49.910 --> 00:27:53.573 It didn't happen once, it happens quite a few times. 549 00:27:54.410 --> 00:27:56.150 - [Narrator] One of the most disturbing cases 550 00:27:56.150 --> 00:28:01.000 was in 1967, over Malmstrom air force base in Montana. 551 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.620 We met with one of the last surviving eye witnesses 552 00:28:03.620 --> 00:28:04.670 of the events. 553 00:28:04.670 --> 00:28:07.790 Like many others, he remained silent for 30 years 554 00:28:07.790 --> 00:28:10.290 before the case was finally divulged. 555 00:28:10.290 --> 00:28:12.620 Lieutenant Robert Salas was in charge of launching 556 00:28:12.620 --> 00:28:14.420 intercontinental ballistic missiles. 557 00:28:15.470 --> 00:28:19.280 - It was a underground facility, about 60 feet underground. 558 00:28:19.280 --> 00:28:21.473 My commander's name was Fred Meiwald. 559 00:28:23.530 --> 00:28:28.530 We were taking turns staying on alert status. 560 00:28:29.170 --> 00:28:33.250 And sometime in the evening, I get a phone call 561 00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:37.363 from my top side guard, we had six guards upstairs, 562 00:28:38.790 --> 00:28:41.650 and he said, they'd been seeing strange lights in the sky 563 00:28:41.650 --> 00:28:46.650 flying very fast, stopping in mid air and reversing course. 564 00:28:48.350 --> 00:28:50.460 He couldn't hear any engine noise, 565 00:28:50.460 --> 00:28:53.053 strictly lights in the sky, 566 00:28:54.260 --> 00:28:55.790 but they were very strange lights. 567 00:28:55.790 --> 00:28:57.570 He didn't think they were airplanes. 568 00:28:57.570 --> 00:29:00.660 He was screaming into the phone, babbling, 569 00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:04.710 telling me that there was some orange reddish light 570 00:29:04.710 --> 00:29:06.723 hovering above the front gate. 571 00:29:07.820 --> 00:29:11.780 And he had all the guards out there with their weapons 572 00:29:11.780 --> 00:29:16.170 and asked me what he should do. 573 00:29:16.170 --> 00:29:19.513 And of course, I was shocked by this report. 574 00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:22.073 He was obviously frightened. 575 00:29:24.170 --> 00:29:27.930 I told him, as I recall, "Just make sure nothing comes in 576 00:29:27.930 --> 00:29:32.670 the fenced area, use whatever force necessary." 577 00:29:32.670 --> 00:29:35.170 And then he hung up. He said, "I had to go, 578 00:29:35.170 --> 00:29:38.690 because one of his guards was injured." 579 00:29:38.690 --> 00:29:40.960 I went to wake up my commander. 580 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.823 And as I was telling him about the phone calls, 581 00:29:45.320 --> 00:29:46.650 our missiles shut down. 582 00:29:46.650 --> 00:29:49.630 We had a 10 missiles under our control 583 00:29:49.630 --> 00:29:54.630 and all 10 of them, what we call no-go, 584 00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:57.430 they couldn't be launched, they couldn't be used. 585 00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:01.360 So that's basically the story. 586 00:30:01.360 --> 00:30:04.720 Of course, we reported to a command post. 587 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.330 - Some would go even further, 588 00:30:06.330 --> 00:30:08.430 not hesitating to speak officially 589 00:30:08.430 --> 00:30:11.470 about extraterrestrial encounters on their missions. 590 00:30:11.470 --> 00:30:13.070 For three years, Paul Hellyer 591 00:30:13.070 --> 00:30:15.860 was Canada's national defense minister. 592 00:30:15.860 --> 00:30:20.860 - During the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFO's 593 00:30:20.910 --> 00:30:25.910 in formation, flying south from Russia across Europe. 594 00:30:26.570 --> 00:30:30.380 And the Supreme Allied Commander was very concerned 595 00:30:31.500 --> 00:30:33.870 and about ready to press the panic button, 596 00:30:33.870 --> 00:30:36.940 when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. 597 00:30:36.940 --> 00:30:40.340 So they decided to do an investigation, 598 00:30:40.340 --> 00:30:43.340 and they investigated for three years 599 00:30:43.340 --> 00:30:47.600 and they decided with absolute certainty 600 00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:51.920 that four species, four different species, at least, 601 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:56.400 had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. 602 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:58.837 So, we have a long history of UFO's, 603 00:30:58.837 --> 00:31:01.660 and of course, there's been a lot more activity 604 00:31:01.660 --> 00:31:06.660 on the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb. 605 00:31:08.360 --> 00:31:11.070 And they're very concerned about that 606 00:31:11.070 --> 00:31:14.620 and the fact that we might use it again, 607 00:31:14.620 --> 00:31:18.030 because the whole cosmos is a unity 608 00:31:18.030 --> 00:31:21.590 and it affects not just us, but other people in the cosmos. 609 00:31:21.590 --> 00:31:24.410 They're very much afraid that we might be stupid enough 610 00:31:24.410 --> 00:31:27.390 to start using atomic weapons again. 611 00:31:27.390 --> 00:31:30.610 And this would be very bad for us and for them as well. 612 00:31:31.600 --> 00:31:34.050 - [Interpreter] He says it clearly: aliens exist. 613 00:31:35.070 --> 00:31:37.013 They came here to stop us, et cetera. 614 00:31:37.013 --> 00:31:38.360 I'm not at that stage. 615 00:31:38.360 --> 00:31:42.940 I simply say there a phenomenon, controlled objects, 616 00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:46.433 which confront us with a certain number of questions. 617 00:31:46.433 --> 00:31:47.773 Is that a signal? 618 00:31:48.950 --> 00:31:51.610 I'm simply saying that on a scientific level, 619 00:31:51.610 --> 00:31:53.790 to put things into perspective, 620 00:31:53.790 --> 00:31:56.370 our satellites are capable of detecting explosions 621 00:31:56.370 --> 00:31:58.973 of supernovas dozens of light years away. 622 00:32:04.110 --> 00:32:07.840 So why couldn't a civilization more advanced than ours 623 00:32:07.840 --> 00:32:11.253 have the capacity to detect nuclear explosions on Earth? 624 00:32:13.620 --> 00:32:15.800 Because a nuclear explosion has all the elements 625 00:32:15.800 --> 00:32:17.740 of the electromagnetic spectrum 626 00:32:20.020 --> 00:32:22.520 and enters the field of the microwave spectrum 627 00:32:23.520 --> 00:32:25.653 via ultraviolets and infrareds. 628 00:32:27.540 --> 00:32:29.693 Consequently, this signal is an artificial one 629 00:32:29.693 --> 00:32:32.393 that could be detected a long, long way away. 630 00:32:36.637 --> 00:32:39.430 And this could explain why there have been 631 00:32:39.430 --> 00:32:43.610 such a huge number of sightings over nuclear sites. 632 00:32:43.610 --> 00:32:44.823 The question remains. 633 00:32:47.320 --> 00:32:49.120 - [Narrator] In France, Michael Vaillant, 634 00:32:49.120 --> 00:32:52.710 an expert data consultant for GEIPAN for more than 12 years, 635 00:32:52.710 --> 00:32:55.110 clearly links the sightings of UFO's 636 00:32:55.110 --> 00:32:57.640 and civil and military facilities in a study 637 00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.590 he published under the aegis of the University of Toulouse. 638 00:33:04.350 --> 00:33:05.183 - [Interpreter] When we worked 639 00:33:05.183 --> 00:33:07.540 with the Toulouse mathematics laboratory, 640 00:33:07.540 --> 00:33:09.973 we did a study in 2015, 641 00:33:11.210 --> 00:33:14.000 which showed there was a large statistical significance 642 00:33:15.101 --> 00:33:17.810 in the breakdown of unexplained aerial phenomena data 643 00:33:17.810 --> 00:33:19.233 and nuclear facilities. 644 00:33:21.490 --> 00:33:23.253 But also polluted sites. 645 00:33:25.030 --> 00:33:26.880 So there are questions to be asked 646 00:33:27.750 --> 00:33:31.543 about the kind of intelligence observing these places, 647 00:33:33.430 --> 00:33:36.440 and why intelligent extraterrestrials 648 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.393 are watching our nuclear and polluted sites. 649 00:33:42.830 --> 00:33:46.093 I think it's pretty weird but pretty tasty at the same time. 650 00:33:48.870 --> 00:33:50.580 - [Narrator] Whether it's to monitor humans 651 00:33:50.580 --> 00:33:53.810 playing with nuclear fire or for some other reason, 652 00:33:53.810 --> 00:33:57.070 the number of politicians, scientists, and engineers 653 00:33:57.070 --> 00:34:00.080 who dare to speak out about non-human intelligence 654 00:34:00.080 --> 00:34:01.283 is clearly growing. 655 00:34:02.280 --> 00:34:04.530 - My personal, I can't speak on behalf of the government, 656 00:34:04.530 --> 00:34:06.940 obviously, I'm not in the U.S. government anymore, 657 00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:10.180 my personal belief is that there's very compelling evidence 658 00:34:10.180 --> 00:34:14.070 that we may not be alone. 659 00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:14.903 Whatever that means. 660 00:34:14.903 --> 00:34:17.030 - The reason we had so much secrecy 661 00:34:17.030 --> 00:34:20.440 is people acknowledged they couldn't understand 662 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:21.860 what it was all about. 663 00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:25.090 And rather than make people afraid, 664 00:34:25.090 --> 00:34:27.760 they just ignored it, hoping it would go away. 665 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.860 But it hasn't gone away. 666 00:34:29.860 --> 00:34:32.720 And now they're being forced to do something about it, 667 00:34:32.720 --> 00:34:35.020 because there are so many occurrences now, 668 00:34:35.020 --> 00:34:37.290 because people who are flying airplanes 669 00:34:37.290 --> 00:34:41.053 are no longer afraid of telling people what they saw. 670 00:34:43.073 --> 00:34:45.370 - [Interpreter 1] Those who take it most seriously today, 671 00:34:45.370 --> 00:34:49.640 are the scientists, because they're saying aliens do exist. 672 00:34:49.640 --> 00:34:52.870 And asking where they're from, what makes them tick. 673 00:34:52.870 --> 00:34:54.270 And that's very interesting. 674 00:34:55.560 --> 00:34:56.630 - [Interpreter 2] It's only imaginable 675 00:34:56.630 --> 00:34:59.230 through the idea of technology 676 00:34:59.230 --> 00:35:01.153 that's far more advanced than ours. 677 00:35:02.568 --> 00:35:04.130 And as we're not able to do it, 678 00:35:04.130 --> 00:35:07.603 then it must come from elsewhere, from space. 679 00:35:10.580 --> 00:35:12.950 - [Narrator] Intelligent life coming from space, 680 00:35:12.950 --> 00:35:16.020 what made the scientific community snicker for decades 681 00:35:16.020 --> 00:35:19.570 has now become a true subject, and for good reason: 682 00:35:19.570 --> 00:35:23.280 in just 25 years, astronomers have discovered the existence 683 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.440 of 4,000 exoplanets, some of which are similar to Earth 684 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.480 and could therefore be home to forms of intelligent life. 685 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.513 And why not a civilization more advanced than ours? 686 00:35:34.510 --> 00:35:37.093 (solemn music) 687 00:35:42.790 --> 00:35:45.470 Avi Loeb is the chair of the astrophysics department 688 00:35:45.470 --> 00:35:47.070 at Harvard university. 689 00:35:47.070 --> 00:35:50.160 He's also head of two institutes working on mathematics 690 00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:53.180 and black holes with numerous eminent physicists, 691 00:35:53.180 --> 00:35:56.010 astronomers and mathematicians as their members, 692 00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:59.020 which goes to show that he's one of the most serious 693 00:35:59.020 --> 00:36:02.610 and respected researchers in his field in the world. 694 00:36:02.610 --> 00:36:03.980 He and his teams has studied 695 00:36:03.980 --> 00:36:05.700 one of the most surprising phenomenon 696 00:36:05.700 --> 00:36:07.900 ever observed in our solar system: 697 00:36:07.900 --> 00:36:11.000 the arrival of an unidentified interstellar object 698 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.700 with very unique properties. 699 00:36:12.700 --> 00:36:16.770 Its name Oumuamua, which in Hawaiian means messenger. 700 00:36:16.770 --> 00:36:20.930 - Oumuamua was discovered on October 19th, 2017. 701 00:36:20.930 --> 00:36:24.120 It was the very first object that we identified 702 00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:26.230 near the Earth that originated 703 00:36:26.230 --> 00:36:28.860 from outside the solar system. 704 00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:31.980 And it was clear that it's unbound to the Sun, 705 00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:35.180 because it moves too fast near the Earth. 706 00:36:35.180 --> 00:36:36.750 At first, the astronomers thought 707 00:36:36.750 --> 00:36:41.750 that it's a rock, an asteroid, or perhaps a comet. 708 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.440 So it was monitored only for one week. 709 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:46.410 And then it was realized 710 00:36:46.410 --> 00:36:48.770 that it has some strange properties. 711 00:36:48.770 --> 00:36:52.660 For one thing, as it spun around every eight hours, 712 00:36:52.660 --> 00:36:55.840 it changed its brightness by a factor of 10. 713 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.240 And that implies that its area on the sky 714 00:36:59.240 --> 00:37:01.530 changes by a factor of 10, 715 00:37:01.530 --> 00:37:04.580 because all we see is reflected sunlight. 716 00:37:04.580 --> 00:37:09.160 And what it implies is that it's at least 10 times longer 717 00:37:09.160 --> 00:37:12.480 than it is wide, much more extreme in shape 718 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:14.400 than any other object that we have seen 719 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.393 from within the solar system before. 720 00:37:17.700 --> 00:37:20.920 And then astronomers looked at it a little more 721 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:22.360 the following month, 722 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.240 but they didn't much pay attention to it. 723 00:37:25.240 --> 00:37:28.873 And by January it was too faint for us to look at. 724 00:37:30.080 --> 00:37:33.250 But the data that was taken earlier was analyzed, 725 00:37:33.250 --> 00:37:36.210 and then it was realized that in fact Oumuamua 726 00:37:36.210 --> 00:37:38.290 deviated from an orbit 727 00:37:38.290 --> 00:37:41.360 that is shaped just by the Sun's gravity. 728 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:45.833 And there was an extra force pushing it away from the Sun. 729 00:37:47.040 --> 00:37:51.100 This could have been the result of outgassing 730 00:37:51.100 --> 00:37:53.250 the way we see in comets, 731 00:37:53.250 --> 00:37:58.250 where water ice on the surface of the comet evaporates 732 00:37:58.520 --> 00:38:00.690 due to the illumination by sunlight. 733 00:38:00.690 --> 00:38:03.820 But in the case of Oumuamua, we didn't see any evidence 734 00:38:03.820 --> 00:38:05.910 for a cometary tail. 735 00:38:05.910 --> 00:38:09.310 There was no gas that was traced around it. 736 00:38:09.310 --> 00:38:11.730 And there were very tight limits derived 737 00:38:11.730 --> 00:38:15.440 by the Spitzer space telescope on carbon based molecules 738 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.540 in the vicinity of this object. 739 00:38:17.540 --> 00:38:21.723 And so it was very puzzling, what gives it this extra push? 740 00:38:23.090 --> 00:38:27.330 And so in a paper that we wrote, we suggested 741 00:38:27.330 --> 00:38:31.593 that perhaps the push is given by sunlight, 742 00:38:32.530 --> 00:38:36.420 and in order for sunlight, as it off the object, 743 00:38:36.420 --> 00:38:40.773 to give it enough push, the object needs to be very thin, 744 00:38:41.610 --> 00:38:45.250 less than a millimeter in thickness, similar to a sail 745 00:38:45.250 --> 00:38:48.393 that is being pushed by wind on a sailboat. 746 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.630 And in fact, our civilization is currently developing 747 00:38:52.630 --> 00:38:54.470 the technology of flight sales, 748 00:38:54.470 --> 00:38:58.030 where a push on a lightweight sail with light 749 00:38:58.910 --> 00:39:03.380 and as a result, as the light bounces off the sail, 750 00:39:03.380 --> 00:39:08.380 it gives it a push that can propel it to very high speeds, 751 00:39:09.340 --> 00:39:11.900 up to the speed of light potentially. 752 00:39:11.900 --> 00:39:16.280 And so it's possible, we said, that this is some device 753 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:22.330 that was sent, that was made artificially 754 00:39:22.330 --> 00:39:24.523 that was sent by an alien civilization. 755 00:39:26.290 --> 00:39:30.760 And we just mentioned that as a possibility, 756 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.330 simply because the alternative, a comet, 757 00:39:35.330 --> 00:39:37.773 seem to be inconsistent with the data. 758 00:39:39.780 --> 00:39:41.700 - [Narrator] Although Avi Loeb's solar sail 759 00:39:41.700 --> 00:39:44.730 is still an exotic yet possible hypothesis, 760 00:39:44.730 --> 00:39:46.410 the technologies that could explain 761 00:39:46.410 --> 00:39:48.990 the unparalleled performances of such objects 762 00:39:48.990 --> 00:39:51.520 are inspiring scientists, the military, 763 00:39:51.520 --> 00:39:53.530 and private companies. 764 00:39:53.530 --> 00:39:56.080 So are these research programs smoke screens 765 00:39:56.080 --> 00:39:59.333 for a fiercely competitive race for tomorrow's technology? 766 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.460 - [Interpreter] The technology used by these objects, 767 00:40:03.460 --> 00:40:06.423 apparently in the case, is one that we don't master, 768 00:40:07.460 --> 00:40:09.840 because clearly, if we could obtain the technology 769 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:13.480 that enables a UFO to go from zero speed 770 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.680 to staggering speeds, 771 00:40:15.680 --> 00:40:19.120 whilst performing complicated maneuvers, 772 00:40:19.120 --> 00:40:20.820 then everyone would be interested. 773 00:40:22.510 --> 00:40:23.910 Because it would change the fighter plane 774 00:40:23.910 --> 00:40:24.860 among other things. 775 00:40:26.263 --> 00:40:28.060 After all, if we discovered it, 776 00:40:28.060 --> 00:40:30.540 we could use it to defend France. 777 00:40:30.540 --> 00:40:32.570 So the two things go hand in hand: 778 00:40:32.570 --> 00:40:34.790 it's great to understand the phenomenon 779 00:40:34.790 --> 00:40:36.503 and then, why not benefit from it? 780 00:40:38.220 --> 00:40:39.760 - [Narrator] So was the goal of Bigelow 781 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.880 and the famous American $22 million project 782 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.060 to discover the technology of these phenomena, 783 00:40:45.060 --> 00:40:47.010 so as to benefit from them? 784 00:40:47.010 --> 00:40:49.060 The Senator at the origin of the program 785 00:40:49.060 --> 00:40:50.450 seems to confirm it. 786 00:40:50.450 --> 00:40:52.710 - Do I believe that technologically 787 00:40:52.710 --> 00:40:55.610 the program we've spent money on has been helpful? 788 00:40:55.610 --> 00:40:56.663 The answer is yes. 789 00:40:57.940 --> 00:40:59.040 Do we have any answers? 790 00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:01.780 Yes, we have answers, but not too many. 791 00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:03.840 I'm interested in science. 792 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.160 I believe we have to know what causes these, 793 00:41:07.160 --> 00:41:09.100 where do they come from. 794 00:41:09.100 --> 00:41:13.270 And I think we also have to do it to be competitive. 795 00:41:13.270 --> 00:41:17.050 Other countries, including France, have done work, 796 00:41:17.050 --> 00:41:18.770 trying to figure this out. 797 00:41:18.770 --> 00:41:23.770 And I'm confident China has, I'm confident that Russia 798 00:41:23.900 --> 00:41:26.320 which is run by former head of the KGB, 799 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.100 I'm sure they're doing work on it. 800 00:41:28.100 --> 00:41:30.490 That's why I think that we need to do work, 801 00:41:30.490 --> 00:41:31.970 we as the United States. 802 00:41:31.970 --> 00:41:33.740 - [Narrator] In the race the Americans seem 803 00:41:33.740 --> 00:41:35.640 to have gotten off to a good start. 804 00:41:35.640 --> 00:41:38.560 Looking again at the list of Bigelow's fields of study, 805 00:41:38.560 --> 00:41:41.400 many of them are on things we're yet to master, 806 00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:44.240 but their applications would be revolutionary. 807 00:41:44.240 --> 00:41:47.060 Among the most sensitive: anti-gravity, 808 00:41:47.060 --> 00:41:48.840 or the ability to free ourselves 809 00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.360 from the laws of Newtonian physics, and notably weight, 810 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.240 so as to fly an object with no physical resistance 811 00:41:55.240 --> 00:41:57.180 and nothing pulling it downwards. 812 00:41:57.180 --> 00:42:00.020 These futuristic technologies require the designing 813 00:42:00.020 --> 00:42:02.840 of new materials called metamaterials. 814 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.520 Recently, a private company signed a contract 815 00:42:05.520 --> 00:42:07.810 with the U.S. armed forces for the research 816 00:42:07.810 --> 00:42:09.700 and development of these technologies. 817 00:42:09.700 --> 00:42:13.610 In June, 2018, dr. Hal Puthoff, co-founder of the company 818 00:42:13.610 --> 00:42:15.160 and a former AATIP member 819 00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:17.416 made some surprising comments on the subject. 820 00:42:17.416 --> 00:42:21.310 - It was a multilayered bismuth and magnesium sample, 821 00:42:21.310 --> 00:42:24.240 bismuth layers of less than a human hair, 822 00:42:24.240 --> 00:42:28.250 magnesium samples, about 10 times the size of human hair, 823 00:42:28.250 --> 00:42:31.630 supposedly picked up in the crash retrieval 824 00:42:31.630 --> 00:42:34.003 of an advanced aerospace vehicle. 825 00:42:35.710 --> 00:42:37.900 It looks like it's been in the crash. 826 00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:40.460 - [Narrator] In Las Vegas in June, 2018, 827 00:42:40.460 --> 00:42:42.270 physicist Hal Puthoff implied 828 00:42:42.270 --> 00:42:44.710 that this strange metamaterial object 829 00:42:44.710 --> 00:42:48.450 came from a crashed UFO, but he's not certain. 830 00:42:48.450 --> 00:42:50.720 Puthoff and his colleague, Dr. Eric Davis, 831 00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:53.850 are on the verge of identifying a number of small parts, 832 00:42:53.850 --> 00:42:57.093 which appear to be beyond man's fabrication capacities. 833 00:42:57.930 --> 00:43:01.270 This sample was created with layers finer than microns 834 00:43:01.270 --> 00:43:03.340 using a process unknown on earth, 835 00:43:03.340 --> 00:43:05.533 and with an aim we can only guess at. 836 00:43:07.200 --> 00:43:08.910 - Nowhere could we find any evidence 837 00:43:08.910 --> 00:43:10.860 that anybody ever made one of these. 838 00:43:10.860 --> 00:43:14.030 When we talked to people who, in the materials field, 839 00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:17.460 who should know, they said, "We don't know why anybody 840 00:43:17.460 --> 00:43:19.400 would want to make anything like this." 841 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:20.390 - [Narrator] So it's no longer 842 00:43:20.390 --> 00:43:23.230 just a matter of understanding the origin of UFO's, 843 00:43:23.230 --> 00:43:25.160 but of benefiting from them. 844 00:43:25.160 --> 00:43:28.210 These metamaterials might have exceptional properties 845 00:43:28.210 --> 00:43:30.720 which could prove useful and profitable. 846 00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:32.120 - They definitely have metamaterials. 847 00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:33.720 I've seen the photographs of it. 848 00:43:33.720 --> 00:43:35.605 I've talked to them about that. 849 00:43:35.605 --> 00:43:37.730 They're trying to figure out how they operate. 850 00:43:37.730 --> 00:43:40.680 It appears that if you put a frequency into these materials, 851 00:43:40.680 --> 00:43:42.440 they actually can levitate. 852 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:44.140 I mean, that's what I'm being told. 853 00:43:44.140 --> 00:43:46.440 I haven't seen it, I don't know the details behind it, 854 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:47.750 but they're trying to understand 855 00:43:47.750 --> 00:43:49.410 exactly how these are created, 856 00:43:49.410 --> 00:43:53.230 it's a bismuth kind of a material 857 00:43:53.230 --> 00:43:57.300 and it's stratified, so it's new stuff to us 858 00:43:57.300 --> 00:43:59.500 and we're trying to figure out how it works. 859 00:44:01.990 --> 00:44:03.990 - [Narrator] This know-how could also help us solve 860 00:44:03.990 --> 00:44:08.060 our ecological problems and ward off global warming. 861 00:44:08.060 --> 00:44:11.150 - Energy and propulsion systems are two things right away, 862 00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:14.650 because there seems to be this sort of tantalizing promise 863 00:44:14.650 --> 00:44:19.650 of limitless free environmentally impact-free energy 864 00:44:19.870 --> 00:44:21.380 that we could tap into, 865 00:44:21.380 --> 00:44:23.330 whether it's anti-gravity 866 00:44:23.330 --> 00:44:26.980 or something beyond even photonic propulsion, 867 00:44:26.980 --> 00:44:30.090 teleportation, or something of that nature, 868 00:44:30.090 --> 00:44:33.010 such that we could sort of master the physical universe 869 00:44:33.010 --> 00:44:35.540 in ways that we can't even dream so far, 870 00:44:35.540 --> 00:44:38.160 which would move us well past fossil fuels 871 00:44:38.160 --> 00:44:40.510 and solar energy and nuclear power 872 00:44:40.510 --> 00:44:43.610 to limitless abundant energy for all 873 00:44:43.610 --> 00:44:47.193 that can do things so far beyond what we're able to do now. 874 00:44:48.610 --> 00:44:50.390 - [Narrator] Mastering new technologies, 875 00:44:50.390 --> 00:44:52.890 bringing radical ecological solutions, 876 00:44:52.890 --> 00:44:55.200 genuine issues for all governments 877 00:44:55.200 --> 00:44:57.923 but the stakes are also high for humankind. 878 00:44:58.830 --> 00:45:01.673 - The fundamental question is, are we alone? 879 00:45:03.200 --> 00:45:07.600 And the second question, if we find that we are not alone, 880 00:45:07.600 --> 00:45:10.443 are we the smartest kids on the block? 881 00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:12.840 There might be civilizations 882 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.200 that are far more advanced than we are 883 00:45:15.200 --> 00:45:16.730 and they have the technologies 884 00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:18.870 that we could potentially develop, 885 00:45:18.870 --> 00:45:21.090 but over a very long time. 886 00:45:21.090 --> 00:45:23.340 And when we establish contact 887 00:45:23.340 --> 00:45:26.563 or see evidence for those civilizations, 888 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:29.053 the evidence we shock us. 889 00:45:30.137 --> 00:45:33.980 It would just be like a caveman looking at the cell phone 890 00:45:33.980 --> 00:45:37.140 and trying to interpret it as a piece of fraud. 891 00:45:37.140 --> 00:45:40.070 A very advanced technological civilization 892 00:45:40.070 --> 00:45:42.670 is a good approximation to God. 893 00:45:42.670 --> 00:45:45.790 It can do things that we cannot imagine. 894 00:45:45.790 --> 00:45:49.823 And so we could learn a lot from such an encounter. 895 00:45:50.980 --> 00:45:54.180 We can also develop a sense of modesty, 896 00:45:54.180 --> 00:45:59.180 because right now we think that we are the smartest. 897 00:46:00.670 --> 00:46:03.840 And in fact, along human history, we thought 898 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.490 that we are at the center of the physical universe, 899 00:46:07.490 --> 00:46:10.450 that the sun revolves around the earth. 900 00:46:10.450 --> 00:46:14.650 And eventually we realized that we are not at the center 901 00:46:14.650 --> 00:46:16.400 of the physical universe. 902 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:17.810 The Earth moves around the sun 903 00:46:17.810 --> 00:46:20.700 and the sun moves around the center of the Milky Way galaxy 904 00:46:20.700 --> 00:46:23.220 and the Milky Way galaxy is moving in some random direction 905 00:46:23.220 --> 00:46:26.340 in a universe that is full of such galaxies. 906 00:46:26.340 --> 00:46:29.380 So we have no special position in the universe. 907 00:46:29.380 --> 00:46:33.000 Nevertheless, many scientists still prefer to believe 908 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:35.670 that we are at the center of the biological universe, 909 00:46:35.670 --> 00:46:39.470 the living universe, that life is unique to Earth. 910 00:46:39.470 --> 00:46:43.970 And in particular, intelligent life is unique to Earth. 911 00:46:43.970 --> 00:46:48.150 And I think one way by which we can become modest 912 00:46:48.150 --> 00:46:52.703 is by collecting evidence about what is going on out there. 913 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.110 - [Narrator] If such a reality exists, 914 00:46:57.110 --> 00:46:59.260 will we be able to grasp it correctly 915 00:46:59.260 --> 00:47:01.060 and really enter into contact 916 00:47:01.060 --> 00:47:03.346 with intelligent life from elsewhere? 917 00:47:03.346 --> 00:47:05.820 Michael Vaillant has worked on the different waves 918 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:07.886 of past UFO sightings. 919 00:47:07.886 --> 00:47:10.810 - [Interpreter 1] Waves of sightings haven't really been 920 00:47:10.810 --> 00:47:13.083 that numerous in the history of mankind. 921 00:47:14.530 --> 00:47:17.330 They pretty much started after World War II. 922 00:47:17.330 --> 00:47:19.850 They've tended to occur in large regions of the earth, 923 00:47:19.850 --> 00:47:22.333 like the United States and Europe. 924 00:47:23.680 --> 00:47:27.480 And over a few days, hundreds of people report sightings 925 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:28.843 of unexplained phenomenon. 926 00:47:31.550 --> 00:47:35.200 When usually in France, for example, 927 00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:37.823 you just get one sighting every two days or so. 928 00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.593 That's already a lot, but during a wave, it skyrockets. 929 00:47:44.819 --> 00:47:48.220 Jacques Vallee and other scientists have posited 930 00:47:48.220 --> 00:47:50.303 what they call control theory. 931 00:47:52.970 --> 00:47:54.900 Maybe since external intelligence 932 00:47:54.900 --> 00:47:56.733 could be behind these waves, 933 00:47:57.760 --> 00:47:59.563 controlling how they're organized, 934 00:48:02.620 --> 00:48:05.190 and behind this control theory 935 00:48:05.190 --> 00:48:06.903 is the notion of learning theory, 936 00:48:08.120 --> 00:48:11.870 where the phenomenon teaches humans about their presence. 937 00:48:11.870 --> 00:48:14.783 There are what we call spaced in time learning methods, 938 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.000 which allow you to undergo a kind of apprenticeship 939 00:48:19.860 --> 00:48:22.393 on an individual rather than a societal basis, 940 00:48:23.524 --> 00:48:26.950 during which you learn to save time and energy 941 00:48:26.950 --> 00:48:28.150 when learning something. 942 00:48:32.420 --> 00:48:34.530 For example, if I'm a lazy person 943 00:48:34.530 --> 00:48:36.143 who must learn a list of words, 944 00:48:38.475 --> 00:48:41.580 I want to save energy rather than senselessly repeating 945 00:48:41.580 --> 00:48:43.130 the list of words sequentially. 946 00:48:45.885 --> 00:48:49.250 So every day I'll space the time between learning sessions, 947 00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:51.810 and this will follow a law of power, 948 00:48:51.810 --> 00:48:54.260 a law measured on a human scale, 949 00:48:54.260 --> 00:48:56.260 and generally a lot of the power of two. 950 00:48:58.600 --> 00:49:03.263 This means that time will double with each learning session. 951 00:49:05.640 --> 00:49:09.023 One, two, four, eight, 16, 32, et cetera. 952 00:49:09.864 --> 00:49:13.533 And we observed this same law with waves of sightings. 953 00:49:16.950 --> 00:49:21.250 Only here these waves follow a law to the power of 2.04 954 00:49:21.250 --> 00:49:22.533 to be very precise. 955 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:26.970 This precision is extremely important, 956 00:49:26.970 --> 00:49:30.010 because it allows to anticipate 957 00:49:30.010 --> 00:49:32.253 the date of the next wave of sightings. 958 00:49:36.460 --> 00:49:40.393 And next one, following a period of great inactivity today, 959 00:49:41.510 --> 00:49:44.790 should be in October, 2035. 960 00:49:44.790 --> 00:49:47.863 It's not tomorrow, but it isn't in the too distant future. 961 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:54.170 - [Interpreter 2] This is an area 962 00:49:54.170 --> 00:49:56.529 that is very, very complicated 963 00:49:56.529 --> 00:49:58.660 and is rejected by many upholders 964 00:49:58.660 --> 00:50:01.033 of mathematical progress and rationalism. 965 00:50:04.020 --> 00:50:06.120 Will we have more surprises in the future? 966 00:50:07.580 --> 00:50:08.780 That's another question. 967 00:50:11.540 --> 00:50:12.440 - [Interpreter 1] If the U.S. government 968 00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.940 still has things to disclose, it should do so now, 969 00:50:15.940 --> 00:50:17.380 because I think people may be ready 970 00:50:17.380 --> 00:50:18.893 to receive this information. 971 00:50:20.350 --> 00:50:22.720 - I believe, without any question 972 00:50:22.720 --> 00:50:24.610 that research scientifically 973 00:50:24.610 --> 00:50:26.830 on these uninvited flying objects 974 00:50:26.830 --> 00:50:29.110 is really good for humanity, 975 00:50:29.110 --> 00:50:31.910 not only for the United States, but the world. 976 00:50:31.910 --> 00:50:35.530 I think if I had my druthers, what I would do 977 00:50:35.530 --> 00:50:38.020 is other countries who are doing work on this, 978 00:50:38.020 --> 00:50:41.160 let's meet together, let's share information, 979 00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:43.150 let the United States share with France, 980 00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:46.040 let United States share with China, Russia. 981 00:50:46.040 --> 00:50:50.050 We should, because it's an issue we don't understand, 982 00:50:50.050 --> 00:50:52.450 we should work together and make it more public 983 00:50:52.450 --> 00:50:55.730 and share it, it's important not only to our country, 984 00:50:55.730 --> 00:50:57.403 but all civilization. 985 00:50:59.270 --> 00:51:00.900 - In the next year, we are gonna have 986 00:51:00.900 --> 00:51:02.620 a fundamentally different conversation 987 00:51:02.620 --> 00:51:03.820 than we're having today. 988 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.240 I think there's gonna be additional fidelity 989 00:51:08.630 --> 00:51:12.080 to a lot of the things that have come out recently, 990 00:51:12.080 --> 00:51:15.960 that are gonna help us have a better understanding 991 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.291 of what it is we're actually seeing here. 992 00:51:18.291 --> 00:51:21.291 (audience applauds) 993 00:51:22.390 --> 00:51:23.830 - [Interpreter 1] It will certainly bring upheavals 994 00:51:23.830 --> 00:51:25.463 to our biggest societies. 995 00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:30.280 You'll ask a lot of questions of philosophies, 996 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.823 religions, and even science. 997 00:51:35.290 --> 00:51:39.440 - [Interpreter 2] In 2035, if man's understanding 998 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.003 of the subject is stable, 999 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:44.633 we might even enter into contact, 1000 00:51:46.810 --> 00:51:48.680 contact that takes into account 1001 00:51:49.990 --> 00:51:54.990 the idea behind these waves and behind our apprenticeships, 1002 00:51:56.870 --> 00:51:58.540 which is to avoid at all costs 1003 00:51:58.540 --> 00:52:01.473 what we call cultural ethnocide, 1004 00:52:04.460 --> 00:52:07.540 meaning to prevent humans from being at a total loss 1005 00:52:07.540 --> 00:52:09.100 and in shock at the confirmation 1006 00:52:09.100 --> 00:52:12.693 of extra terrestrial phenomenon or intelligence. 1007 00:52:15.010 --> 00:52:17.890 But I think that in about 10 years time, 1008 00:52:17.890 --> 00:52:21.830 and almost certainly before, we'll have discovered life 1009 00:52:21.830 --> 00:52:22.943 in the solar system. 1010 00:52:24.550 --> 00:52:27.720 Not intelligent life, but life all the same. 1011 00:52:27.720 --> 00:52:31.730 And that alone would enable us to lay the foundations 1012 00:52:31.730 --> 00:52:34.560 of an intellectual edifice that will allow us 1013 00:52:34.560 --> 00:52:36.003 to explore further. 1014 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.160 That's certainly true for scientists who dare to believe 1015 00:52:40.160 --> 00:52:44.390 that beyond simple life, intelligent life exists too. 1016 00:52:44.390 --> 00:52:46.410 This will help mentalities to progress 1017 00:52:46.410 --> 00:52:49.110 and eventually acceptance will become more mainstream. 1018 00:52:52.331 --> 00:52:56.240 - There are more Earth-like planets that are habitable 1019 00:52:56.240 --> 00:52:58.580 in the observable volume of the universe 1020 00:52:58.580 --> 00:53:02.960 than there are grains of sand on all beaches on earth. 1021 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:04.580 To me, it sounds very reasonable 1022 00:53:05.470 --> 00:53:07.700 to search for other civilizations, 1023 00:53:07.700 --> 00:53:09.750 not necessarily here on Earth, 1024 00:53:09.750 --> 00:53:14.430 not necessarily in the solar system, but well beyond that, 1025 00:53:14.430 --> 00:53:19.120 and make it a central theme of future research, 1026 00:53:19.120 --> 00:53:22.170 because the consequences of finding evidence 1027 00:53:22.170 --> 00:53:24.723 for life out there would be tremendous. 1028 00:53:26.290 --> 00:53:27.900 It would change our conception 1029 00:53:27.900 --> 00:53:29.620 about our place in the universe. 1030 00:53:29.620 --> 00:53:34.200 It could teach us about advanced technologies 1031 00:53:34.200 --> 00:53:37.350 that we have never dreamt of developing, 1032 00:53:37.350 --> 00:53:42.080 and it can also provide us with an important lesson 1033 00:53:42.080 --> 00:53:46.020 about how to behave as a civilization to make us feel 1034 00:53:46.020 --> 00:53:50.630 as one team that is learning something together 1035 00:53:50.630 --> 00:53:53.070 from another team 1036 00:53:53.070 --> 00:53:55.703 that went through a similar process in there. 1037 00:53:58.833 --> 00:54:01.750 (light airy music)