WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:46.291 --> 00:00:49.417 - A lot of people don't really fully understand immigrants, 4 00:00:49.500 --> 00:00:51.375 especially when they come from poor countries, 5 00:00:51.458 --> 00:00:53.917 that they're kind of burdened with shame, 6 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.875 and sometimes that music that comes with the cultures, 7 00:00:57.959 --> 00:01:00.166 people wanna get away from because they feel ashamed. 8 00:01:00.250 --> 00:01:02.000 To me, it's the saddest thing in the world 9 00:01:02.083 --> 00:01:05.792 because that's your connection to your strength. 10 00:01:05.875 --> 00:01:07.834 Your family is your strength. 11 00:01:17.917 --> 00:01:21.917 - Your father is half Mexican. How far back in-- 12 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.500 - My father is sort of full Mexican. 13 00:01:23.583 --> 00:01:24.959 - Well, excuse me. 14 00:01:25.041 --> 00:01:26.291 How far back in your family tree 15 00:01:26.375 --> 00:01:28.709 do you have to go before you hear 16 00:01:28.792 --> 00:01:31.250 the Spanish sound in your name? 17 00:01:31.333 --> 00:01:34.000 - Well, you can go back one generation on either side. 18 00:01:34.083 --> 00:01:35.041 I mean, it-- 19 00:01:36.834 --> 00:01:39.667 Spain is not Mexican either. - Mm-hmm, all right. 20 00:01:39.750 --> 00:01:43.417 The point we're making is that these are songs 21 00:01:43.500 --> 00:01:45.583 of Linda Ronstadt's childhood. 22 00:01:45.667 --> 00:01:47.417 These aren't just songs 23 00:01:47.500 --> 00:01:50.125 that you didn't put on a Mexican costume and sing. 24 00:01:50.208 --> 00:01:51.834 - Oh, no, no, no, no, no. - These are your family songs. 25 00:01:51.917 --> 00:01:52.917 - We spoke Spanish in my house. 26 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:54.750 We ate tamales at Christmastime, you know. 27 00:01:54.834 --> 00:01:56.291 These are songs that I heard when I was growing up, 28 00:01:56.375 --> 00:01:57.917 and that we sang as a family. 29 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:59.750 It was a family project altogether, this record. 30 00:01:59.834 --> 00:02:02.250 - Take it away, guys. 31 00:02:18.542 --> 00:02:20.875 - My older brother had seen her on channel nine. 32 00:02:20.959 --> 00:02:23.166 He was like, "Oh, my God, you gotta see this lady." 33 00:02:23.250 --> 00:02:24.792 So I go and I see her, and I was just like... 34 00:02:25.875 --> 00:02:27.000 I didn't know how to get her music 35 00:02:27.083 --> 00:02:29.667 or her CDs or anything, so I would call channel nine, 36 00:02:29.750 --> 00:02:31.792 and I would just be listening to her songs, 37 00:02:31.875 --> 00:02:33.291 'cause when you'd call, they'd play the music. 38 00:02:33.375 --> 00:02:36.583 It was just very inspiring. Brought me a lot of hope. 39 00:02:39.375 --> 00:02:41.792 - In the '80s, with "Canciones de Mi Padre," 40 00:02:41.875 --> 00:02:45.458 in the Mexican community, Linda's music was everywhere. 41 00:02:52.875 --> 00:02:55.875 - And the fact that she invested her talent 42 00:02:55.959 --> 00:02:59.375 into our music-- our music-- 43 00:02:59.458 --> 00:03:02.834 was an enormous source of pride for people. 44 00:03:07.417 --> 00:03:10.041 - During the time I had my "Los Canciones" show, 45 00:03:10.125 --> 00:03:12.458 I was down by the Palace of Fine Arts, 46 00:03:12.542 --> 00:03:14.917 and I saw these kids playing and dancing, 47 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:16.500 and I could tell by the way they were dancing 48 00:03:16.583 --> 00:03:17.542 they were really authentic. 49 00:03:20.375 --> 00:03:22.500 - So I got into a conversation with Eugene, 50 00:03:22.583 --> 00:03:24.375 and I said, "Yeah, you guys are really good." 51 00:03:24.458 --> 00:03:26.083 And he said, "Well, we've been trying to raise enough money 52 00:03:26.166 --> 00:03:28.166 "to take a trip to Mexico 'cause I want the kids 53 00:03:28.250 --> 00:03:30.041 "to learn what it is to be a Mexican, you know, 54 00:03:30.125 --> 00:03:31.291 so they can feel proud of it." 55 00:03:31.375 --> 00:03:33.834 I could see the value of a trip like that, 56 00:03:33.917 --> 00:03:35.208 to go down for musical purposes, 57 00:03:35.291 --> 00:03:36.917 for a musical exchange. 58 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.583 And I said, "Oh, I'll help you 59 00:03:38.667 --> 00:03:40.583 with the money to go to Mexico." 60 00:03:40.667 --> 00:03:43.083 So I added an extra concert into my tour 61 00:03:43.166 --> 00:03:45.083 to help pay for their trip to Mexico. 62 00:03:49.291 --> 00:03:51.125 And that's how we started our friendship. 63 00:03:55.291 --> 00:03:57.375 - Why don't we do "San Lorenzo"? 64 00:04:00.750 --> 00:04:03.750 - When I went to the center to see how the kids were trained, 65 00:04:03.834 --> 00:04:05.959 I was so impressed by how much they were validated 66 00:04:06.041 --> 00:04:07.333 and how much they were respected 67 00:04:07.417 --> 00:04:09.208 and how much dignity they were given. 68 00:04:18.333 --> 00:04:20.792 I thought the Cenzontles were really special, 69 00:04:20.875 --> 00:04:22.250 and I thought they were doing a great job 70 00:04:22.333 --> 00:04:23.625 teaching kids music. 71 00:04:23.709 --> 00:04:26.083 Every time I would introduce another musician, 72 00:04:26.166 --> 00:04:28.458 they got as enthusiastic as I was about it. 73 00:04:35.875 --> 00:04:38.083 Linda told me about this guy Eugene 74 00:04:38.166 --> 00:04:39.083 and that what he was doing 75 00:04:39.166 --> 00:04:40.583 with his kids was really important. 76 00:04:40.667 --> 00:04:43.291 - Good! 77 00:04:43.375 --> 00:04:44.959 - It's important that the kids growing up 78 00:04:45.041 --> 00:04:47.417 in the United States-- they're Americans. 79 00:04:47.500 --> 00:04:50.291 It's important that they know that we're all immigrants, 80 00:04:50.375 --> 00:04:51.625 every one of us. 81 00:04:51.709 --> 00:04:54.125 Every one of us is an immigrant to this country 82 00:04:54.208 --> 00:04:56.792 that isn't native. 83 00:04:56.875 --> 00:05:00.667 - Linda, Linda, you tricked me. - I tricked you? 84 00:05:00.750 --> 00:05:03.083 - Yeah, so I was gonna come up here 85 00:05:03.166 --> 00:05:05.625 and do an interview with you for "The Sound of My Voice," 86 00:05:05.709 --> 00:05:07.792 and you said the only way you'd do an interview 87 00:05:07.875 --> 00:05:10.500 for your own documentary was if I went to Mexico 88 00:05:10.583 --> 00:05:13.417 with you and Los Cenzontles and interviewed you there. 89 00:05:15.333 --> 00:05:18.458 It was a nice trick, though. I wanted to go. 90 00:05:20.417 --> 00:05:22.750 And the bus was going, so I had a chance. 91 00:05:25.083 --> 00:05:26.959 - How'd you get Jackson to come? 92 00:05:27.041 --> 00:05:28.959 - We asked him. 93 00:05:29.041 --> 00:05:30.291 He likes to eat. 94 00:05:30.375 --> 00:05:32.291 Well, you know, and he likes good music. 95 00:05:32.375 --> 00:05:35.208 - Look, if Linda Ronstadt invites you to go to Mexico, 96 00:05:35.291 --> 00:05:37.166 I don't need to know any more than that. 97 00:05:37.250 --> 00:05:40.750 It's, you know, of course, let's go. 98 00:05:42.125 --> 00:05:45.041 I knew that she wanted to take Los Cenzontles, 99 00:05:45.125 --> 00:05:47.166 and I already knew them, 100 00:05:47.250 --> 00:05:49.166 so I knew it would be a great trip. 101 00:05:58.083 --> 00:06:00.333 - Los Cenzontles means "the mockingbirds." 102 00:06:00.417 --> 00:06:03.375 The mockingbird doesn't mock other birds. 103 00:06:03.458 --> 00:06:06.458 A mockingbird listens to the sounds of other birds, 104 00:06:06.542 --> 00:06:08.000 and they incorporate those songs 105 00:06:08.083 --> 00:06:09.166 into their voices. 106 00:06:09.250 --> 00:06:11.166 This is what we try to do. 107 00:06:11.250 --> 00:06:13.125 - I was 15 when I first joined 108 00:06:13.208 --> 00:06:15.458 Los Cenzontles back in the '90s. 109 00:06:21.166 --> 00:06:23.375 And it's going to be 25 years this year 110 00:06:23.458 --> 00:06:25.875 that I've been at Los Cenzontles. 111 00:06:29.250 --> 00:06:33.041 Now that I'm teaching, I see my students. 112 00:06:35.625 --> 00:06:37.041 I plant seeds. 113 00:06:42.583 --> 00:06:44.250 When I see those kids growing, 114 00:06:44.333 --> 00:06:47.041 the seeds growing, it just makes me very proud, 115 00:06:47.125 --> 00:06:48.875 and I see the potential that they have, 116 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:49.875 and I wanna give them more. 117 00:06:51.417 --> 00:06:54.375 It's a satisfaction knowing that what I'm doing, 118 00:06:54.458 --> 00:06:58.291 it's making an impact in their lives. 119 00:07:04.208 --> 00:07:06.083 I am looking forward to going to Mexico. 120 00:07:06.166 --> 00:07:07.583 I love Mexico. 121 00:07:07.667 --> 00:07:10.250 Linda invited our group to join her 122 00:07:10.333 --> 00:07:12.583 in this trip going to Senora. 123 00:07:12.667 --> 00:07:16.083 She wanted to take us back to where her grandpa was from 124 00:07:16.166 --> 00:07:18.291 and experience that with us. 125 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:21.500 - Maybe it's genetic memory, 126 00:07:21.583 --> 00:07:24.041 but I feel very at home when I go to Mexico. 127 00:07:24.125 --> 00:07:26.917 When I'm in Mexico, I have a better understanding 128 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.375 of who I am and who my family is, you know? 129 00:07:29.458 --> 00:07:32.375 I feel great pride in it, and I always have. 130 00:07:32.458 --> 00:07:34.542 I hope it makes the kids feel like that they have 131 00:07:34.625 --> 00:07:36.041 more of an understanding of where they came from, 132 00:07:36.125 --> 00:07:38.583 the culture they came from, who they are, 133 00:07:38.667 --> 00:07:40.583 why they're important, why they should 134 00:07:40.667 --> 00:07:43.750 never be rendered invisible or without their dignity. 135 00:07:47.375 --> 00:07:50.000 Jackson and I used to tour together. 136 00:07:50.083 --> 00:07:51.083 When we were on the road, 137 00:07:51.166 --> 00:07:52.792 somebody would be hungover in the corner, 138 00:07:52.875 --> 00:07:54.125 and somebody else would be playing 139 00:07:54.208 --> 00:07:56.959 some Rolling Stones song or something on the guitar, 140 00:07:57.041 --> 00:07:58.792 but this time, it was these kids. 141 00:08:05.375 --> 00:08:06.917 - They were playing these really great grooves, 142 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:08.750 you know, and singing really great together. 143 00:08:08.834 --> 00:08:10.291 It was really a thrill for me. 144 00:08:10.375 --> 00:08:12.125 I wish I could sing with 'em. 145 00:08:18.375 --> 00:08:20.333 - We will be going into Mexico here 146 00:08:20.417 --> 00:08:22.709 in about another 50 meters or so. 147 00:08:22.792 --> 00:08:24.875 Those of you who might be interested, 148 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.041 sometimes the people who work for ICE 149 00:08:27.125 --> 00:08:30.542 will drop off folks right here, and they'll send 'em 150 00:08:30.625 --> 00:08:32.041 through these little turnstiles, 151 00:08:32.125 --> 00:08:33.834 and this is where a lot of deportees 152 00:08:33.917 --> 00:08:36.792 just walk along this wall here. 153 00:08:38.417 --> 00:08:41.166 - Lucina, tell me how you came to the United States. 154 00:08:41.250 --> 00:08:43.625 - I was born and raised in Mexico 155 00:08:43.709 --> 00:08:46.000 till I was ten years old, and my dad 156 00:08:46.083 --> 00:08:48.041 was in the United States, so he wanted 157 00:08:48.125 --> 00:08:50.000 the rest of the family to join him. 158 00:08:50.083 --> 00:08:53.500 I came with my mom and my two younger brothers. 159 00:08:53.583 --> 00:08:55.125 I was ten, and my younger brothers 160 00:08:55.208 --> 00:08:57.166 were seven and five. 161 00:08:57.250 --> 00:09:00.875 We had to cross the border illegally. 162 00:09:00.959 --> 00:09:03.542 I remember just, you know, being super scared 163 00:09:03.625 --> 00:09:06.333 and thinking they were either gonna separate us or... 164 00:09:06.417 --> 00:09:09.417 I thought they were gonna kill us or something like that. 165 00:09:09.500 --> 00:09:11.583 - Sounds horrible. 166 00:09:11.667 --> 00:09:14.709 - It was very traumatic for us, 167 00:09:14.792 --> 00:09:17.041 so we were walking around in the Mexican side, 168 00:09:17.125 --> 00:09:19.542 and we had no money, so my mom, you know, 169 00:09:19.625 --> 00:09:21.709 had to actually ask for money. 170 00:09:21.792 --> 00:09:24.333 It was kind of embarrassing for us because, I mean, 171 00:09:24.417 --> 00:09:26.583 that's something that we had never done, 172 00:09:26.667 --> 00:09:31.875 but my mom had to do it so that we can get some food. 173 00:09:34.750 --> 00:09:36.375 People don't understand. 174 00:09:36.458 --> 00:09:40.500 Even though, you know, I'm a citizen now, 175 00:09:40.583 --> 00:09:42.000 every time I see this fence 176 00:09:42.083 --> 00:09:44.917 or every time I go across border, 177 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:49.250 and although I can cross and, you know, 178 00:09:49.333 --> 00:09:52.291 many times and leave the country 179 00:09:52.375 --> 00:09:56.125 and travel the world, you still have that in you. 180 00:10:05.834 --> 00:10:06.750 - I had written a song 181 00:10:06.834 --> 00:10:08.458 about the violence at the border. 182 00:10:08.542 --> 00:10:10.959 It was called "A Silence," and Jackson was nice enough 183 00:10:11.041 --> 00:10:13.250 to sing with David Hidalgo from Los Lobos, 184 00:10:13.333 --> 00:10:14.959 and while we were in the studio, 185 00:10:15.041 --> 00:10:17.709 Jackson said, "Hey, I got this song about the border." 186 00:10:17.792 --> 00:10:20.417 - I wanted to write a song about the problem 187 00:10:20.500 --> 00:10:22.458 with the border, like, 30 years ago 188 00:10:22.542 --> 00:10:25.083 with the lines, "The Klan's been down on the border. 189 00:10:25.166 --> 00:10:26.792 They say it's to keep law and order." 190 00:10:26.875 --> 00:10:28.291 I just could never get anywhere with it. 191 00:10:28.375 --> 00:10:29.291 Later I'd change it to, 192 00:10:29.375 --> 00:10:32.083 "Well, the minutemen are down on the border." 193 00:10:32.166 --> 00:10:33.500 - And I thought, "Yeah, that's cool." 194 00:10:33.583 --> 00:10:35.125 He wanted to maybe do something with it, 195 00:10:35.208 --> 00:10:37.500 but can we not make this about the minutemen? 196 00:10:37.583 --> 00:10:39.625 Like, let's make it about us 197 00:10:39.709 --> 00:10:41.625 'cause I'm sick of talking about them. 198 00:10:41.709 --> 00:10:43.333 I wanna talk about us. 199 00:10:43.417 --> 00:10:46.959 And so, you know, it came almost immediately. 200 00:10:53.834 --> 00:10:55.792 So then, you know, that's Lucina. 201 00:10:55.875 --> 00:10:57.959 - You know, ten years old, a young girl 202 00:10:58.041 --> 00:11:00.000 coming to a new place, never seen this, 203 00:11:00.083 --> 00:11:02.000 and then--it was all new. 204 00:11:02.083 --> 00:11:04.291 I didn't know the language. 205 00:11:04.375 --> 00:11:06.333 Then you were called a beaner, 206 00:11:06.417 --> 00:11:10.125 so there were a lot of problems during that time. 207 00:12:08.125 --> 00:12:11.542 - I sing "The Dreamer" in every show I do. 208 00:12:11.625 --> 00:12:14.083 I introduce it by telling them about Eugene 209 00:12:14.166 --> 00:12:16.208 and how we came to write this song, 210 00:12:16.291 --> 00:12:19.375 and that it's inspired by the story of my friend Lucina. 211 00:12:19.458 --> 00:12:21.000 It's very well received, 212 00:12:21.083 --> 00:12:23.709 and people usually stand at the end and applaud. 213 00:12:28.625 --> 00:12:31.583 At the end, I do a song called "I'm a Patriot," 214 00:12:31.667 --> 00:12:34.542 and when I say, "And I ain't no white supremacist," 215 00:12:34.625 --> 00:12:35.834 and the place just roars 216 00:12:35.917 --> 00:12:38.083 because who would be a white supremist 217 00:12:38.166 --> 00:12:39.083 in this country? 218 00:12:39.166 --> 00:12:43.458 This country... this country's not white. 219 00:12:43.542 --> 00:12:45.583 It was not founded to be white. 220 00:12:45.667 --> 00:12:49.333 - Because I was light skinned and with a German surname, 221 00:12:49.417 --> 00:12:51.291 people didn't suspect that I was Mexican, 222 00:12:51.375 --> 00:12:53.750 and they'd make some kind of anti-Mexican remark. 223 00:12:53.834 --> 00:12:55.041 They'd go, "Well, these greasers 224 00:12:55.125 --> 00:12:56.542 coming in here, you know." 225 00:12:56.625 --> 00:12:58.583 And I'd always get pretty hot about it. 226 00:13:03.125 --> 00:13:04.583 - My name is Camila. 227 00:13:04.667 --> 00:13:06.417 I dance, sing, and play instruments. 228 00:13:06.500 --> 00:13:09.417 - My name's Belinda, and I'm a dancer, singer, 229 00:13:09.500 --> 00:13:10.917 and I play instruments too. 230 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:12.583 - My name is Clarissa. 231 00:13:12.667 --> 00:13:15.166 I dance, sing, and play instruments. 232 00:13:15.250 --> 00:13:16.166 - My name's Avena. 233 00:13:16.250 --> 00:13:18.166 I play instruments, sing, and dance. 234 00:13:18.250 --> 00:13:20.125 - I'm Jacquina. 235 00:13:20.208 --> 00:13:22.458 I dance. 236 00:13:22.542 --> 00:13:25.125 - Juan Ortega, I'm the father. 237 00:13:25.208 --> 00:13:26.667 I'm a carpenter by trade. 238 00:13:31.083 --> 00:13:32.500 - Could you translate that? 239 00:13:32.583 --> 00:13:34.333 - It's a good family. It's stable. 240 00:13:34.417 --> 00:13:38.291 We're respectful and a pretty good family. 241 00:13:38.375 --> 00:13:40.917 - They'll play music all night. 242 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:42.458 You know, they'll sit down in the back room. 243 00:13:42.542 --> 00:13:43.625 They'll just play. 244 00:13:43.709 --> 00:13:44.667 You know, some--you know, I gotta tell 'em, 245 00:13:44.750 --> 00:13:46.959 "Hey, that's it." 246 00:13:47.041 --> 00:13:48.750 "That's it, no more. It's 10:00. 247 00:13:48.834 --> 00:13:50.166 Hey, no more guitars." 248 00:13:53.667 --> 00:13:56.000 - The best place for people to learn to play music, 249 00:13:56.083 --> 00:13:59.000 in my opinion, is in family 250 00:13:59.083 --> 00:14:00.208 as a way to just connect 251 00:14:00.291 --> 00:14:01.959 to your brothers and sisters, to your parents, 252 00:14:02.041 --> 00:14:03.291 to your grandparents, to yourself. 253 00:14:10.375 --> 00:14:12.041 - Culturally, I've always felt Mexican. 254 00:14:14.750 --> 00:14:17.709 And I feel great pride in it, and I always have. 255 00:14:17.792 --> 00:14:20.125 My grandmother who identified as Mexican 256 00:14:20.208 --> 00:14:23.208 was born in Arizona when half of the western territory 257 00:14:23.291 --> 00:14:24.709 of the United States used to be Mexico, 258 00:14:24.792 --> 00:14:27.875 so you know, who's the newcomer? 259 00:14:27.959 --> 00:14:30.834 Mexico went all the way up through Nevada and Utah 260 00:14:30.917 --> 00:14:33.375 and all the way up to Wyoming. 261 00:14:33.458 --> 00:14:36.458 We didn't migrate. The border migrated. 262 00:14:36.542 --> 00:14:38.542 - Check one, two. Check one, two. 263 00:14:38.625 --> 00:14:40.083 - Get everybody together. 264 00:14:40.166 --> 00:14:42.417 The show starts at 3:00, but we don't go first. 265 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:45.208 The other group goes first, and so what I suggest is, 266 00:14:45.291 --> 00:14:46.750 for those of you who aren't playing, 267 00:14:46.834 --> 00:14:48.542 maybe you guys can go dance... 268 00:14:48.625 --> 00:14:50.041 Just freely in the front. 269 00:14:50.125 --> 00:14:52.583 I grew up in Glendale, in the LA area. 270 00:14:52.667 --> 00:14:55.375 At that time, you don't see Mexicans on television. 271 00:14:55.458 --> 00:14:57.709 We're not really on mainstream radio. 272 00:14:57.792 --> 00:14:59.375 We don't exist. 273 00:14:59.458 --> 00:15:01.542 What we're trying to do with music 274 00:15:01.625 --> 00:15:04.166 and through our children is to cultivate 275 00:15:04.250 --> 00:15:06.667 all that they are because we are no better or no worse 276 00:15:06.750 --> 00:15:08.041 than anybody on this planet. 277 00:15:10.458 --> 00:15:12.709 - Which one's Miriam's? 278 00:15:12.792 --> 00:15:16.000 I was taking care of all the costumes for the children. 279 00:15:16.083 --> 00:15:18.500 We made two different sets of costumes. 280 00:15:19.834 --> 00:15:23.792 The folklórico group, the children wear costumes 281 00:15:23.875 --> 00:15:28.792 for the mariachi style and some jarocho style too. 282 00:15:28.875 --> 00:15:31.542 Our costumes are made with what we find. 283 00:15:31.625 --> 00:15:33.709 - Astrid, where are you from? 284 00:15:33.792 --> 00:15:35.709 - I was an immigrant twice. 285 00:15:35.792 --> 00:15:38.083 My father was from Vietnam. 286 00:15:38.166 --> 00:15:39.917 My mother is French, 287 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:41.458 and I was born in France. 288 00:15:41.542 --> 00:15:43.458 Gonna start gluing more sticks. 289 00:15:43.542 --> 00:15:48.166 I came over here to the U.S. after the Vietnam War, 290 00:15:48.250 --> 00:15:50.250 and actually, now most of the time, 291 00:15:50.333 --> 00:15:54.834 people think that I'm Latina, so--because of the mixture 292 00:15:54.917 --> 00:16:00.417 that I have, but then I get what Latinas get sometimes. 293 00:16:00.500 --> 00:16:02.250 - And what is that? 294 00:16:04.542 --> 00:16:09.458 - Sometimes it surprises me how people will not be so nice, 295 00:16:09.542 --> 00:16:12.125 not be as open 296 00:16:12.208 --> 00:16:16.792 or want to struggle communicating with me 297 00:16:16.875 --> 00:16:18.667 thinking that I only speak Spanish, 298 00:16:18.750 --> 00:16:21.125 and you know, they decide already 299 00:16:21.208 --> 00:16:22.667 that you have limitations. 300 00:16:22.750 --> 00:16:24.333 And of course, glue the head pin on. 301 00:16:24.417 --> 00:16:26.125 25 years, I've been teaching. 302 00:16:26.208 --> 00:16:28.125 - Do you know the man who runs the place? 303 00:16:28.208 --> 00:16:29.917 - Yes. 304 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:31.500 He's my husband. 305 00:16:32.542 --> 00:16:33.959 You should have ten, I think. 306 00:16:35.458 --> 00:16:39.792 - My name is Oswaldo, and what I do mostly 307 00:16:39.875 --> 00:16:43.500 is I'm still in school. 308 00:16:43.583 --> 00:16:45.125 - Mostly. - Yeah. 309 00:16:58.959 --> 00:17:00.375 - Could you translate that? 310 00:17:00.458 --> 00:17:02.500 - Some of the values that we follow 311 00:17:02.583 --> 00:17:06.834 are the same that my grandparents 312 00:17:06.917 --> 00:17:10.166 taught my parents, which is respect 313 00:17:10.250 --> 00:17:14.667 or being hardworking and being united 314 00:17:14.750 --> 00:17:17.125 with our family and with our loved ones. 315 00:17:17.208 --> 00:17:19.625 - What kind of family are you, Oswaldo? 316 00:17:19.709 --> 00:17:24.041 - We're a family that helps each other out 317 00:17:24.125 --> 00:17:28.583 when we need some help. 318 00:17:33.625 --> 00:17:35.000 - This long trip to get over here-- 319 00:17:35.083 --> 00:17:38.208 we're gonna get down. 320 00:17:38.291 --> 00:17:39.542 They don't wanna hear me. 321 00:17:39.625 --> 00:17:42.333 We gotta get Fabi and Lucina ready first. 322 00:17:44.083 --> 00:17:46.208 - I am a very stubborn person, 323 00:17:46.291 --> 00:17:51.875 so Eugene has been very tough on us, 324 00:17:51.959 --> 00:17:53.709 and he has contributed 325 00:17:53.792 --> 00:17:55.542 to a lot of the things that I've done. 326 00:17:55.625 --> 00:17:58.375 For example, when I first came to the U.S., 327 00:17:58.458 --> 00:18:01.542 I didn't wanna speak English, 328 00:18:01.625 --> 00:18:04.709 but Eugene only spoke English to me, 329 00:18:04.792 --> 00:18:06.709 so he's like, "You have to speak English." 330 00:18:06.792 --> 00:18:09.291 You know, you have to be-- you're here in the U.S., 331 00:18:09.375 --> 00:18:10.583 so you gotta speak English. 332 00:18:10.667 --> 00:18:12.583 It was always hard for me to take myself seriously 333 00:18:12.667 --> 00:18:15.083 in playing instruments, so he's like, 334 00:18:15.166 --> 00:18:17.083 "Come on, you can do this. You can do this." 335 00:18:17.166 --> 00:18:19.458 Okay, and then I would just do it. 336 00:18:21.333 --> 00:18:23.750 - What I want Los Cenzontles-- I want them to be themselves. 337 00:18:23.834 --> 00:18:24.750 - Hey, what about me? 338 00:18:24.834 --> 00:18:26.125 - This is what we're trying to do. 339 00:18:26.208 --> 00:18:27.250 - Smile. - Got it? 340 00:18:27.333 --> 00:18:28.625 - Smile. - No, I can't. 341 00:18:28.709 --> 00:18:30.792 I don't want to. - Oh, don't want to? 342 00:18:30.875 --> 00:18:32.125 - When I met Lucina, she was 15, 343 00:18:32.208 --> 00:18:34.417 and I'm not kidding you, she didn't smile for six years. 344 00:18:34.500 --> 00:18:35.583 Am I serious? 345 00:18:35.667 --> 00:18:36.583 - Yes. 346 00:18:36.667 --> 00:18:38.250 - It took her six years to even smile. 347 00:18:42.041 --> 00:18:43.583 My point is, is that that wasn't why 348 00:18:43.667 --> 00:18:44.959 she was invited into the group. 349 00:18:45.041 --> 00:18:47.000 She wasn't invited to be a puppet. 350 00:18:47.083 --> 00:18:49.625 She was invited to be herself, and we gave her time 351 00:18:49.709 --> 00:18:51.458 for her smile to come out naturally, 352 00:18:51.542 --> 00:18:53.041 and now she has a natural smile. 353 00:18:53.125 --> 00:18:54.917 Fabiola too. 354 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:56.792 Give us a big smile for the camera. 355 00:18:56.875 --> 00:18:59.625 - Look at the camera. 356 00:18:59.709 --> 00:19:01.959 - She came. She didn't sing for a while. 357 00:19:02.041 --> 00:19:03.625 And when it came out, it was time to come out. 358 00:19:05.333 --> 00:19:07.291 She came from a pretty big family 359 00:19:07.375 --> 00:19:08.458 and tough neighborhood. 360 00:19:08.542 --> 00:19:09.959 You know, she would walk around kind of like a boy. 361 00:19:10.041 --> 00:19:12.166 She had her big puffy jacket on, 362 00:19:12.250 --> 00:19:14.625 and she said she wanted to learn guitar. 363 00:19:14.709 --> 00:19:16.041 I tried to teach her guitar. 364 00:19:16.125 --> 00:19:18.750 Next week, "Did you practice?" "No." 365 00:19:18.834 --> 00:19:19.750 Next week, "Did you practice?" 366 00:19:19.834 --> 00:19:20.875 I said, "Why are you here? 367 00:19:20.959 --> 00:19:22.291 You're not practicing guitar." 368 00:19:22.375 --> 00:19:24.458 I figured out that she really wanted to sing... 369 00:19:24.542 --> 00:19:26.125 But she was too shy 370 00:19:26.208 --> 00:19:27.542 to say that she wanted sing. 371 00:19:33.917 --> 00:19:35.208 - And then when she started singing, 372 00:19:35.291 --> 00:19:36.208 she had a beautiful voice. 373 00:19:38.375 --> 00:19:42.291 A soulful voice, and then Fabiola became a singer. 374 00:19:42.375 --> 00:19:45.166 - Who's that baby? He's beautiful. 375 00:19:45.250 --> 00:19:47.208 So cute. - Isn't he cute? 376 00:19:47.291 --> 00:19:48.834 - I forget how tiny they are. 377 00:19:51.208 --> 00:19:53.458 We hope you enjoy this performance. 378 00:19:53.542 --> 00:19:56.709 It's from folkloric Mexican dances. 379 00:20:04.125 --> 00:20:05.834 - Wearing western shirts, 380 00:20:05.917 --> 00:20:07.625 that was a Northern Mexican costume, 381 00:20:07.709 --> 00:20:10.709 and the boots and the pants with the flare-- 382 00:20:10.792 --> 00:20:12.291 they call 'em frontier pants. 383 00:20:12.375 --> 00:20:14.917 The hat, it's all from Mexico. 384 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:17.625 - All right, partner, freeze. 385 00:20:18.792 --> 00:20:20.375 - Hi, fellas. 386 00:20:20.458 --> 00:20:21.959 - Roy Rogers! 387 00:20:22.041 --> 00:20:25.709 - The cowboy is all based on Mexican tradition. 388 00:20:25.792 --> 00:20:27.917 - How would you like to surprise your pals like that? 389 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.542 Well, you can with my new Roy Rogers Quick Shooter Hat. 390 00:20:30.625 --> 00:20:33.208 - Roy Rogers--there wouldn't be any Roy Rogers 391 00:20:33.291 --> 00:20:35.208 if there weren't those Mexican cowboys. 392 00:20:41.792 --> 00:20:44.208 We don't realize we're taking from them all the time, 393 00:20:44.291 --> 00:20:48.208 and giving back, so it's an interactive loop. 394 00:20:49.458 --> 00:20:51.834 The dancers from Mexico are wonderful. 395 00:20:51.917 --> 00:20:53.500 I've known that group for a while 396 00:20:53.583 --> 00:20:55.250 and supported them. I love them. 397 00:20:55.333 --> 00:20:57.750 They're very elegant. The girls are very graceful. 398 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:10.917 - What's different 399 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.458 about the folklórico dancing and yours? 400 00:21:13.542 --> 00:21:15.917 - I think each girl has a guy to dance with. 401 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:17.000 That... 402 00:21:18.166 --> 00:21:19.375 - Do you guys have boyfriends? 403 00:21:19.458 --> 00:21:21.083 all: No. 404 00:21:23.834 --> 00:21:25.250 - Are you ready for your performance? 405 00:21:25.333 --> 00:21:26.250 How do you feel? 406 00:21:26.333 --> 00:21:29.041 - I feel cold, but I feel ready. 407 00:21:29.125 --> 00:21:30.417 - I also feel cold. 408 00:21:30.500 --> 00:21:33.792 - Gracias, grupo Cenzontles. 409 00:21:44.667 --> 00:21:45.834 - Most of these performers are kids 410 00:21:45.917 --> 00:21:48.458 from 8 to 17 years old. 411 00:21:48.542 --> 00:21:51.291 To have that level of musicianship that early, 412 00:21:51.375 --> 00:21:52.834 even if they don't play it as well 413 00:21:52.917 --> 00:21:55.166 as a grown-up professional, they play it right. 414 00:21:55.250 --> 00:21:57.083 They play in the right rhythm figures, 415 00:21:57.166 --> 00:21:58.792 the right traditions, the right patterns, 416 00:21:58.875 --> 00:22:00.417 the right instruments. 417 00:22:02.375 --> 00:22:03.834 And their dance steps are right. 418 00:22:09.750 --> 00:22:11.291 So they're not compromising the rhythms. 419 00:22:11.375 --> 00:22:13.625 They don't make it into what I call Dorito music, 420 00:22:13.709 --> 00:22:16.166 which is kind of Latin-ish music, you know? 421 00:22:16.250 --> 00:22:17.583 This is Mexican music. 422 00:22:18.917 --> 00:22:20.458 - Oh! 423 00:22:29.083 --> 00:22:30.709 - When I share my traditions and my heritage 424 00:22:30.792 --> 00:22:33.166 with other people, I feel proud 425 00:22:33.250 --> 00:22:36.291 because this is music that comes from years ago, 426 00:22:36.375 --> 00:22:37.792 and we're bringing it back alive, 427 00:22:37.875 --> 00:22:38.959 and it's still alive. 428 00:22:46.750 --> 00:22:50.291 To play and to interpret these songs, 429 00:22:50.375 --> 00:22:51.834 I feel like I'm feeding my spirit. 430 00:22:51.917 --> 00:22:53.500 I feel like I'm feeding my soul, 431 00:22:53.583 --> 00:22:56.166 and my soul is speaking through the music, 432 00:22:56.250 --> 00:22:59.125 through what I'm doing, and then the joy 433 00:22:59.208 --> 00:23:01.125 that I see that people are having, 434 00:23:01.208 --> 00:23:04.166 that also feeds my soul, feeds my spirit. 435 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:07.166 It's just like a cycle that, you know, goes on. 436 00:23:07.250 --> 00:23:09.542 It's like you give, and then you take. 437 00:23:09.625 --> 00:23:10.875 You give and you take. 438 00:23:43.333 --> 00:23:44.959 - These kids learn the roots. 439 00:23:45.041 --> 00:23:46.542 They learn the tradition, and then they can learn 440 00:23:46.625 --> 00:23:48.583 how to break 'em, and they do come up 441 00:23:48.667 --> 00:23:49.750 with some really great stuff. 442 00:23:53.834 --> 00:23:55.792 - Gracias. 443 00:23:55.875 --> 00:23:58.083 - They're playing the music for the right reasons. 444 00:23:58.166 --> 00:24:00.959 You can play music right. You can play it well. 445 00:24:01.041 --> 00:24:02.959 You can play it in a very accomplished way. 446 00:24:03.041 --> 00:24:04.750 None of it makes any difference if you're not playing it 447 00:24:04.834 --> 00:24:07.250 for the right reasons, and the reason we play music 448 00:24:07.333 --> 00:24:09.792 is to celebrate our sorrows and our joys 449 00:24:09.875 --> 00:24:11.125 and try to help make sense of something 450 00:24:11.208 --> 00:24:13.917 that oppresses you 451 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.542 or celebrate something that lifts you up. 452 00:24:38.208 --> 00:24:40.000 - My mother, who picked vegetables 453 00:24:40.083 --> 00:24:42.166 and worked with her family from a very young age 454 00:24:42.250 --> 00:24:44.125 in Southern California, she said, 455 00:24:44.208 --> 00:24:45.917 "When the music happened, those were the few moments 456 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:47.917 of lightness in a heavy existence." 457 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.417 So to me, that's what music can do. 458 00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:52.083 There's nothing like playing music 459 00:24:52.166 --> 00:24:53.959 with your brothers and sisters and your family. 460 00:24:54.041 --> 00:24:55.291 It's so much better than going shopping 461 00:24:55.375 --> 00:24:57.291 or watching TV or playing video games. 462 00:24:57.375 --> 00:24:58.500 It's just beautiful. 463 00:26:27.291 --> 00:26:30.208 - Brava! - Gracias, thank you. 464 00:26:36.834 --> 00:26:38.250 - Can you understand the lyrics? 465 00:26:38.333 --> 00:26:39.792 - No. 466 00:26:39.875 --> 00:26:40.959 - It's about a little orphan girl 467 00:26:41.041 --> 00:26:43.208 that lives on the edge of a palm grove, 468 00:26:43.291 --> 00:26:45.041 and she has no friends to console her-- 469 00:26:45.125 --> 00:26:48.083 little, tiny girl-- and she comes and goes all-- 470 00:26:48.166 --> 00:26:49.750 passes her life, coming and going, 471 00:26:49.834 --> 00:26:50.750 like the waves of the ocean. 472 00:26:50.834 --> 00:26:51.917 It's a beautiful song. 473 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:53.583 I learned it from my grandfather. 474 00:26:53.667 --> 00:26:54.917 - The music you make 475 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.250 accompanies you your whole life, 476 00:26:57.333 --> 00:26:59.458 and if you're lucky enough 477 00:26:59.542 --> 00:27:01.750 to be still encountering new family 478 00:27:01.834 --> 00:27:04.917 and making new friends when you're old, 479 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.959 it's a very rich, rich experience. 480 00:27:12.875 --> 00:27:14.291 - They got the opportunity to show their dignity 481 00:27:14.375 --> 00:27:16.583 and their style, the way that they performed 482 00:27:16.667 --> 00:27:17.834 and the way they held themselves, 483 00:27:17.917 --> 00:27:20.000 and the Mexicans were really impressed. 484 00:27:23.417 --> 00:27:26.166 - It was really fantastic. 485 00:27:26.250 --> 00:27:28.166 The older college students and the graduates 486 00:27:28.250 --> 00:27:31.000 of that folkloric troupe were hanging out, 487 00:27:31.083 --> 00:27:33.000 and the kids went over there. 488 00:27:33.083 --> 00:27:36.125 It was so fantastic that they got to meet each other. 489 00:27:36.208 --> 00:27:38.000 That is something that will be indelible 490 00:27:38.083 --> 00:27:40.291 in the lives of these kids in Los Cenzontles. 491 00:27:44.583 --> 00:27:47.667 - We did a show in Idaho once. 492 00:27:47.750 --> 00:27:50.542 A Latino who was, I think, in the army, 493 00:27:50.625 --> 00:27:52.041 he came up to me afterwards, and he said, 494 00:27:52.125 --> 00:27:54.166 "You know, this is the first time in my life 495 00:27:54.250 --> 00:27:57.375 that I've felt proud of being Mexican." 496 00:27:57.458 --> 00:27:59.458 It's a heavy thing to hear, 497 00:27:59.542 --> 00:28:01.667 and it's not just people in the United States. 498 00:28:01.750 --> 00:28:03.000 It's also in Mexico. 499 00:28:05.083 --> 00:28:07.500 When we did our tour of Jalisco 500 00:28:07.583 --> 00:28:09.000 and we brought this old music back, 501 00:28:09.083 --> 00:28:11.792 so many people would come to us with tears in their eyes, 502 00:28:11.875 --> 00:28:13.667 just thanking us. 503 00:28:13.750 --> 00:28:16.667 You know, how meaningful it was for them 504 00:28:16.750 --> 00:28:19.500 because, you know, culture is so powerful. 505 00:28:35.083 --> 00:28:36.000 - There's Mexico, 506 00:28:36.083 --> 00:28:37.542 and then there's Mexico America. 507 00:28:37.625 --> 00:28:39.542 Mexican-American culture is huge. 508 00:28:39.625 --> 00:28:41.041 It's two different cultures. 509 00:28:41.125 --> 00:28:42.208 They have a lot of similarities, 510 00:28:42.291 --> 00:28:43.333 but it's fun to go and explore 511 00:28:43.417 --> 00:28:45.208 what's the same and what's different. 512 00:28:49.583 --> 00:28:51.875 - It's very rewarding for me to be on this trip 513 00:28:51.959 --> 00:28:53.375 to see you in Mexico. 514 00:28:53.458 --> 00:28:55.041 It's fantastic. 515 00:28:55.125 --> 00:28:57.500 - Do you have any musical-- any tips that you have? 516 00:28:57.583 --> 00:29:00.250 - Oh, my goodness, me give you guys advice? 517 00:29:00.333 --> 00:29:01.834 Just keep doing it. 518 00:29:01.917 --> 00:29:04.041 You know, what you're doing is really essential 519 00:29:04.125 --> 00:29:07.917 to every other thing, whether it's making a family 520 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.542 or whether it's having a band. 521 00:29:10.625 --> 00:29:14.250 You know, to be a part of something bigger, you know, 522 00:29:14.333 --> 00:29:16.750 that you have a role in, and you see the whole thing, 523 00:29:16.834 --> 00:29:18.917 like this moment, it's really great. 524 00:29:23.500 --> 00:29:25.166 - You guys were so good yesterday. 525 00:29:25.250 --> 00:29:26.792 I was so proud of you. 526 00:29:26.875 --> 00:29:29.291 - To me, it's magical to meet a woman 527 00:29:29.375 --> 00:29:33.250 who is so interested in so many things, 528 00:29:33.333 --> 00:29:34.792 and I appreciate 529 00:29:34.875 --> 00:29:36.709 that it's not just talk. 530 00:29:36.792 --> 00:29:39.875 She just does what she says. 531 00:29:39.959 --> 00:29:41.458 She means what she says. 532 00:29:41.542 --> 00:29:44.417 - You look so pretty when you smile from the stage. 533 00:29:44.500 --> 00:29:46.417 The whole time, you smiled. 534 00:29:46.500 --> 00:29:50.375 - I don't get to meet many people who are like her. 535 00:29:50.458 --> 00:29:52.583 - You know, as far as I'm concerned, 536 00:29:52.667 --> 00:29:55.458 what Linda's doing for these kids is fantastic. 537 00:29:55.542 --> 00:29:56.917 - Yes. - It's unbelievable. 538 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:57.917 - Yes. 539 00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:01.083 And I think it's about life too. 540 00:30:01.166 --> 00:30:03.417 It's how you choose your life to be. 541 00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:05.458 - I like that last song when everybody's singing together. 542 00:30:05.542 --> 00:30:08.125 - I think it's important for her to say 543 00:30:08.208 --> 00:30:10.291 that life for Latinos 544 00:30:10.375 --> 00:30:11.500 is important-- just as important 545 00:30:11.583 --> 00:30:14.083 as anybody else would think their life is. 546 00:30:18.709 --> 00:30:21.125 - So today, do you have any thoughts 547 00:30:21.208 --> 00:30:23.166 about going back across the border? 548 00:30:23.250 --> 00:30:27.125 - I think about how much I don't have to think about it 549 00:30:27.208 --> 00:30:30.125 because of the privilege I have of, like, 550 00:30:30.208 --> 00:30:32.291 being a citizen of the United States. 551 00:30:35.875 --> 00:30:37.834 - This is Camila. Is that right? 552 00:30:37.917 --> 00:30:40.041 - Yeah. - Hi, best friend! 553 00:30:40.125 --> 00:30:41.709 - We came back on the bus. 554 00:30:41.792 --> 00:30:44.792 We had my little great niece, Annabelle, with us. 555 00:30:44.875 --> 00:30:46.166 She was two, and she was the pet of the bus, 556 00:30:46.250 --> 00:30:47.792 and everybody was playing with her. 557 00:30:52.291 --> 00:30:53.709 And I thought, "What if we got to the border 558 00:30:53.792 --> 00:30:56.041 "and they took Annabelle away and put her in a cage? 559 00:30:56.125 --> 00:30:57.166 "What if they took her away 560 00:30:57.250 --> 00:30:59.375 "from her mother who loves her and will protect her 561 00:30:59.458 --> 00:31:01.375 "and her father who loves her and wants to protect her 562 00:31:01.458 --> 00:31:03.667 and just lost her in the system?" 563 00:31:08.083 --> 00:31:09.875 We'd just be beside ourselves. 564 00:31:13.917 --> 00:31:16.542 - I ask myself what music can do. 565 00:31:18.500 --> 00:31:23.166 I think musical culture is constantly in flux, 566 00:31:23.250 --> 00:31:25.875 and we have to see ourselves in this flow. 567 00:31:28.125 --> 00:31:29.583 We're part of something so much bigger 568 00:31:29.667 --> 00:31:32.709 than just where we are, and I think music and culture 569 00:31:32.792 --> 00:31:35.041 is the embodiment of that flow. 570 00:31:35.125 --> 00:31:36.333 - Well, music will find its way. 571 00:31:36.417 --> 00:31:37.458 It always does. 572 00:31:37.542 --> 00:31:39.875 It carries as much of the truth as it can hold, 573 00:31:39.959 --> 00:31:42.500 but it has to resonate in the zeitgeist. 574 00:31:42.583 --> 00:31:46.041 We have to have people out there to hear it. 575 00:33:12.875 --> 00:33:15.875 - There's a negative image being placed on Mexicans. 576 00:33:15.959 --> 00:33:17.750 Now becoming-- - It's growing stronger. 577 00:33:17.834 --> 00:33:18.750 - Yeah. 578 00:33:18.834 --> 00:33:20.792 - Here, the negative presentation, 579 00:33:20.875 --> 00:33:23.000 they're choosing those bad people, 580 00:33:23.083 --> 00:33:27.959 and they're setting them as the face of my people. 581 00:33:28.041 --> 00:33:29.166 - How do you feel about it? 582 00:33:29.250 --> 00:33:32.625 - I feel sad because I feel like 583 00:33:32.709 --> 00:33:36.291 everybody should be treated the same way. 584 00:33:37.750 --> 00:33:40.166 - Oswaldo, as a kid, what do you think 585 00:33:40.250 --> 00:33:41.667 when you see these news stories 586 00:33:41.750 --> 00:33:44.375 of children being separated from their mom and dad? 587 00:33:44.458 --> 00:33:48.500 - I'm lucky to have a family and to be with them. 588 00:33:48.583 --> 00:33:50.208 - When me and my sister were little, 589 00:33:50.291 --> 00:33:52.000 my little brother wasn't here yet. 590 00:33:52.083 --> 00:33:53.375 I remember one time... 591 00:33:55.250 --> 00:33:58.125 I was smaller than my sister, 592 00:33:58.208 --> 00:34:01.000 they were gone, or my dad was gone. 593 00:34:03.083 --> 00:34:05.417 He had been detained. 594 00:34:09.333 --> 00:34:12.333 And that was very scary for me. 595 00:34:12.417 --> 00:34:15.709 'Cause I mean, I was little. I was, like, five. 596 00:34:20.917 --> 00:34:24.041 - One thing I will say about that 597 00:34:24.125 --> 00:34:28.417 is I think the parents should talk to their kids 598 00:34:28.500 --> 00:34:31.041 even at five, just to be informed 599 00:34:31.125 --> 00:34:33.917 that some parents don't go to pick up their kids 600 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.875 because, of course, they're already detained, 601 00:34:35.959 --> 00:34:37.417 or they're already gone, 602 00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:39.417 and I think it's the best decision 603 00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:41.917 for the kids to know even though 604 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.375 they think they're young, maybe they can 605 00:34:44.458 --> 00:34:46.458 not tell them everything, 606 00:34:46.542 --> 00:34:50.125 but something to start the conversation. 607 00:34:50.208 --> 00:34:52.709 - You think that they're agents of another country? 608 00:34:52.792 --> 00:34:54.625 You think these people came to the United States 609 00:34:54.709 --> 00:34:56.750 to serve the Mexican government? 610 00:34:56.834 --> 00:34:58.417 They left their country. 611 00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:00.542 They left their families. 612 00:35:00.625 --> 00:35:03.500 There's another amazing song that I can't sing 613 00:35:03.583 --> 00:35:06.750 because I can't get through it without crying, 614 00:35:06.834 --> 00:35:08.542 but it's a Joel Rafael song 615 00:35:08.625 --> 00:35:11.083 called "Sierra Blanca Massacre." 616 00:35:11.166 --> 00:35:12.542 Immigrants who were being smuggled 617 00:35:12.625 --> 00:35:14.583 into the United States were locked 618 00:35:14.667 --> 00:35:17.083 in a container and left in the heat 619 00:35:17.166 --> 00:35:18.792 by the people that were smuggling them, 620 00:35:18.875 --> 00:35:20.083 and they die. 621 00:35:20.166 --> 00:35:22.875 As they realized that they weren't gonna survive this, 622 00:35:22.959 --> 00:35:25.875 they wrote some things down, you know, that my friend Joel 623 00:35:25.959 --> 00:35:29.083 put into a song, and it's very moving. 624 00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:10.041 - These were people who were forced to leave. 625 00:37:10.125 --> 00:37:13.709 They left places that were beautiful and they had culture. 626 00:37:13.792 --> 00:37:15.458 So just to think about... 627 00:37:21.625 --> 00:37:23.333 I'll tell you, it's being sleep deprived. 628 00:37:23.417 --> 00:37:25.041 - What? - It's being sleep deprived. 629 00:37:25.125 --> 00:37:27.375 I'm not actually-- I have no sentiments. 630 00:37:27.458 --> 00:37:28.458 They just come out when I'm--- 631 00:37:28.542 --> 00:37:30.709 - I don't believe you for a second, you know. 632 00:37:30.792 --> 00:37:32.583 You wouldn't be doing what you do 633 00:37:32.667 --> 00:37:34.625 if you didn't care a lot. 634 00:37:39.875 --> 00:37:41.917 - Is underneath the sadness rage? 635 00:37:43.792 --> 00:37:46.542 - So yeah, so you know, why the hell 636 00:37:46.625 --> 00:37:48.709 should a little kid bear the burden? 637 00:37:48.792 --> 00:37:51.917 Why does a child have to bear that humiliation? 638 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.375 Why do their fathers have to bear the humiliation? 639 00:37:55.458 --> 00:37:57.583 Just because they're trying to make a living. 640 00:38:02.834 --> 00:38:05.917 - Oswaldo, what do you want for the country and your future? 641 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:09.917 - I want to see white people and Mexicans together. 642 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.375 I want to see them talking to each other. 643 00:38:19.917 --> 00:38:22.166 - People have been embracing aspects 644 00:38:22.250 --> 00:38:24.750 of Mexican culture for years and not even realizing. 645 00:38:28.834 --> 00:38:32.291 You can be proud of the culture you came from 646 00:38:32.375 --> 00:38:35.291 and feel good to identify yourself that way. 647 00:38:35.375 --> 00:38:37.166 I was always very proud of being Mexican. 648 00:38:37.250 --> 00:38:40.291 - What's a charro? 649 00:38:40.375 --> 00:38:43.500 - Well, in Mexico, that's kind of like a cowboy, 650 00:38:43.583 --> 00:38:44.500 and I have a feeling 651 00:38:44.583 --> 00:38:47.000 you guys are gonna make wonderful charros. 652 00:38:49.208 --> 00:38:51.834 - Oh, look! 653 00:39:15.750 --> 00:39:16.875 Yupa! 654 00:39:16.959 --> 00:39:20.625 - We're charros, cowboys! 655 00:39:23.125 --> 00:39:24.667 - Oh, look! 656 00:39:32.583 --> 00:39:34.041 - Yeah! 657 00:39:46.959 --> 00:39:48.000 - Oh, yeah!