1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:02,105 --> 00:00:03,831 NEWSREADER: In this highly industrial decade, 3 00:00:03,865 --> 00:00:05,695 just how pure is our air? 4 00:00:05,729 --> 00:00:09,147 To what degree are we contaminating it by oil and gas fumes? 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:09,181 --> 00:00:12,046 Pollution and over pollution, unless checked, 7 00:00:12,081 --> 00:00:14,359 could so warm the Earth in 200 years 8 00:00:14,393 --> 00:00:16,292 as to create a greenhouse effect... 9 00:00:16,326 --> 00:00:18,639 RICHARD NIXON: This land that is ours together 10 00:00:18,673 --> 00:00:20,606 is a great and a good land. 11 00:00:20,641 --> 00:00:22,712 It is in that spirit that I address myself 12 00:00:22,746 --> 00:00:24,955 to those great issues facing our nation, 13 00:00:24,990 --> 00:00:26,681 which are above partisanship. 14 00:00:26,716 --> 00:00:30,133 FEMALE REPORTER: Will your policies become more, say, pro-environment now? 15 00:00:30,168 --> 00:00:32,377 They've always been pro-environment. 16 00:00:32,411 --> 00:00:34,620 Anyone who allows political bickering 17 00:00:34,655 --> 00:00:37,347 to weaken our progress against pollution 18 00:00:37,382 --> 00:00:40,178 does a tragic disservice to every American. 19 00:00:40,212 --> 00:00:45,631 We have worked as one people, for 25 years as one people. 20 00:00:45,666 --> 00:00:49,980 One of the key strategies was to sow doubt about climate change science... 21 00:00:50,015 --> 00:00:54,606 There has been consideration both of scientific certainties and uncertainties. 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,713 We do not know how much effect natural fluctuations in climate 23 00:00:58,748 --> 00:01:00,336 may have had on warming. 24 00:01:00,370 --> 00:01:04,443 No one in the scientific community disputes that this would be catastrophic. 25 00:01:04,478 --> 00:01:06,721 The science is screaming at us. 26 00:01:06,756 --> 00:01:08,171 If we set our minds to it, 27 00:01:08,206 --> 00:01:13,556 we could, in this country, produce 100% of our electricity. 28 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:14,936 BARACK OBAMA: I said before the world 29 00:01:14,971 --> 00:01:18,250 that we needed a strong global agreement. 30 00:01:18,285 --> 00:01:21,046 DONALD TRUMP: The United States will withdraw 31 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:23,738 from the Paris Climate Accord. 32 00:01:23,773 --> 00:01:24,774 We're getting out. 33 00:01:31,988 --> 00:01:32,851 [COUGHING] 34 00:01:33,472 --> 00:01:34,680 [PANTING] 35 00:01:50,696 --> 00:01:52,871 JEREMY JONES: We're gonna build an anchor. 36 00:01:52,905 --> 00:01:54,459 I'm gonna, um, 37 00:01:54,493 --> 00:01:57,876 go over this top roll on belay. 38 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:59,843 And then, um, 39 00:01:59,878 --> 00:02:01,500 we'll go from there. 40 00:02:02,605 --> 00:02:03,744 One... 41 00:02:05,677 --> 00:02:06,540 Two... 42 00:02:07,679 --> 00:02:08,818 Three. 43 00:02:09,474 --> 00:02:10,337 Whoo! 44 00:02:11,614 --> 00:02:12,477 [EXHALES] All right. 45 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:19,346 How much more rope? 46 00:02:19,380 --> 00:02:21,934 MAN: Yeah, that's probably your last turn. 47 00:02:21,969 --> 00:02:23,212 JEREMY: Okay. 48 00:02:26,422 --> 00:02:27,664 Uh! 49 00:02:27,699 --> 00:02:29,287 MAN: All right, Jeremy. 50 00:02:29,873 --> 00:02:31,185 Be careful. 51 00:02:31,220 --> 00:02:32,876 JEREMY: One, two... 52 00:02:33,705 --> 00:02:34,706 [EXHALES] 53 00:02:39,952 --> 00:02:42,058 MAN: Traditionally, when we think about climate activists, 54 00:02:42,092 --> 00:02:43,646 we might think about conservationists, 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,475 we might think about people who have 56 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:47,926 dedicated their lives to protecting the environment, 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,722 or we might think about people who live along the coasts. 58 00:02:50,756 --> 00:02:56,003 But the truth is that climate change is impacting everyone. 59 00:02:56,037 --> 00:02:59,800 JEREMY: The environment wasn't always a divisive issue. 60 00:03:01,353 --> 00:03:03,493 And at the end of the day, what we're fighting for is, 61 00:03:03,528 --> 00:03:05,426 clean air and clean water 62 00:03:05,461 --> 00:03:07,601 and a sustainable future for kids. 63 00:03:07,635 --> 00:03:11,294 So why is that so polarizing? 64 00:03:11,329 --> 00:03:13,227 How do we get there? 65 00:03:14,263 --> 00:03:15,988 You know, when I started Protect Our Winters, 66 00:03:16,023 --> 00:03:17,714 I had no idea that the, um, 67 00:03:17,749 --> 00:03:22,305 the front lines would be here in Washington, DC, 68 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:23,962 but it just became clear 69 00:03:23,996 --> 00:03:27,448 that real action needs to happen at the policy level, 70 00:03:27,483 --> 00:03:29,761 at the federal level, at the international level. 71 00:03:35,456 --> 00:03:38,977 Winter as we know it will be half in 2050. 72 00:03:40,047 --> 00:03:42,912 And by 2090, 80%, 73 00:03:42,946 --> 00:03:46,398 which means winter as we know it will be three weeks long. 74 00:03:46,433 --> 00:03:47,641 That is heartbreaking. 75 00:03:50,368 --> 00:03:54,717 The winter sports community represents $72 billion, 76 00:03:54,751 --> 00:03:56,753 695,000 jobs, 77 00:03:56,788 --> 00:04:00,032 which, I point out, is 70,000 more jobs 78 00:04:00,067 --> 00:04:01,551 than the extraction industry. 79 00:04:03,139 --> 00:04:04,347 As bad as that is, 80 00:04:04,382 --> 00:04:06,384 and the thought of not having winter 81 00:04:06,418 --> 00:04:08,489 as we know it absolutely breaks my heart, 82 00:04:08,524 --> 00:04:11,458 we realize the global effects 83 00:04:11,492 --> 00:04:14,564 on the importance of snow for our water. 84 00:04:17,291 --> 00:04:20,743 California, 60% of its water comes from snowmelt. 85 00:04:20,777 --> 00:04:23,953 The Sierra is this perfect aquifer. 86 00:04:25,092 --> 00:04:27,508 The alarms are everywhere. 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:31,857 [CROWD CHEERING] 88 00:04:31,892 --> 00:04:35,136 This is the challenge of our time. 89 00:04:35,171 --> 00:04:38,243 We represent a huge audience 90 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,314 and they want action on this. 91 00:04:40,349 --> 00:04:41,936 But we are running out of time. 92 00:04:44,180 --> 00:04:47,183 I definitely never thought of myself as an environmentalist. 93 00:04:47,217 --> 00:04:50,911 I was not looking to be a so-called environmentalist, 94 00:04:50,945 --> 00:04:56,779 but my whole life is committed to the mountains. 95 00:05:00,748 --> 00:05:03,613 I ended up having a lot of success 96 00:05:03,648 --> 00:05:06,375 going to the world's most beautiful mountains 97 00:05:06,409 --> 00:05:08,584 and figuring out how to ride those. 98 00:05:10,102 --> 00:05:13,243 The best lines are the ones that you are, like, 99 00:05:13,278 --> 00:05:16,039 right on the edge of life and death. 100 00:05:18,421 --> 00:05:20,596 Big mountain riding is about exploration 101 00:05:20,630 --> 00:05:23,530 and figuring out what's around the next corner. 102 00:05:23,564 --> 00:05:26,947 You know, that's where a lot of the buzz comes from. 103 00:05:26,981 --> 00:05:30,571 It was through that time and spending time amongst the glaciers 104 00:05:30,606 --> 00:05:34,506 that I started really seeing this change. 105 00:05:34,541 --> 00:05:36,784 I'm seeing the glaciers recede. 106 00:05:36,819 --> 00:05:39,787 I am seeing more consistent rain. 107 00:05:39,822 --> 00:05:41,686 I mean, it's nothing's more heartbreak 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,621 than rain to the top of the mountains in January, 109 00:05:45,655 --> 00:05:49,866 At that time I had a massive carbon footprint. 110 00:05:49,901 --> 00:05:55,044 I realized even though my career was just cranking, 111 00:05:57,598 --> 00:06:03,155 I couldn't justify that my love was having this just blatant, 112 00:06:03,190 --> 00:06:06,469 obvious impact on the planet. 113 00:06:08,091 --> 00:06:10,024 The other key factor is 114 00:06:10,059 --> 00:06:13,062 I was finding the edge of the boundaries. 115 00:06:13,096 --> 00:06:16,168 If I can figure out how to walk for days on end 116 00:06:16,203 --> 00:06:17,756 and live out in these mountains 117 00:06:17,791 --> 00:06:19,171 and hike up these mountains, 118 00:06:19,206 --> 00:06:23,452 I have 90% more of the world's mountains to choose from. 119 00:06:24,625 --> 00:06:27,663 My first foot powered trip in Alaska, 120 00:06:27,697 --> 00:06:29,665 I got this whole new group of people 121 00:06:29,699 --> 00:06:31,632 and I've sold these other people on the idea that, 122 00:06:31,667 --> 00:06:33,807 "Hey, we're gonna go out there and we're gonna camp 123 00:06:33,841 --> 00:06:35,429 and we're gonna hike these things." 124 00:06:35,464 --> 00:06:36,534 See you later. 125 00:06:37,673 --> 00:06:40,054 The problem was I didn't know if I could do it. 126 00:06:42,471 --> 00:06:44,956 Holy-- We should get out of the way. 127 00:06:44,990 --> 00:06:46,613 MAN: Oh, my God! 128 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:48,546 MAN 2: Oh! 129 00:06:51,721 --> 00:06:54,310 MAN: Are we gonna go worked right here? 130 00:06:54,344 --> 00:06:55,725 MAN 2: I don't think so. 131 00:07:00,281 --> 00:07:03,492 JEREMY: When we shifted to foot powered snowboarding, 132 00:07:03,526 --> 00:07:06,356 it brought in so much more complexities. 133 00:07:06,391 --> 00:07:09,877 And in many ways it was more dangerous 134 00:07:09,912 --> 00:07:14,710 because instead of being on a slope for one to two minutes, 135 00:07:14,744 --> 00:07:18,472 we're on a slope for one to two hours. 136 00:07:20,025 --> 00:07:23,270 You are forced to let everything strip away 137 00:07:23,304 --> 00:07:25,134 and give the mountains your attention. 138 00:07:27,550 --> 00:07:29,828 JEREMY: Yeah, can somebody check here real quick? 139 00:07:29,863 --> 00:07:32,003 One, two, three. 140 00:07:33,522 --> 00:07:35,869 JEREMY: These windows of opportunity 141 00:07:35,903 --> 00:07:39,389 when this unridden, big, serious mountain 142 00:07:39,424 --> 00:07:41,461 is safe to ride. 143 00:07:41,495 --> 00:07:45,741 That window opens and closes with these really little subtleties. 144 00:07:45,775 --> 00:07:47,087 Dropping. 145 00:07:59,375 --> 00:08:00,583 Whoo! 146 00:08:02,309 --> 00:08:05,346 Line of my life, man. [LAUGHING] 147 00:08:05,381 --> 00:08:11,560 I'm alive today because of my intimate connection with the mountains. 148 00:08:11,594 --> 00:08:15,736 So, naturally, I saw changes to the mountains, 149 00:08:15,771 --> 00:08:18,981 and it coincided with what scientists were telling me. 150 00:08:22,881 --> 00:08:24,745 As I've learned about the science 151 00:08:24,780 --> 00:08:29,923 and how critical snow is to humanity, 152 00:08:29,957 --> 00:08:32,063 I'm like, if we don't have snow, 153 00:08:32,097 --> 00:08:36,377 the least of our problems is gonna be that a chairlift isn't spinning. 154 00:08:36,412 --> 00:08:40,105 The ripple effects on that and the disruption of that, 155 00:08:40,140 --> 00:08:45,766 I can't even imagine what that means on society on a whole. 156 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:54,568 Family is hugely important to me. 157 00:08:54,603 --> 00:08:57,537 Now, my highs in the mountains, 158 00:08:57,571 --> 00:09:00,125 they're generally tied to being out there with my kids. 159 00:09:02,887 --> 00:09:06,028 I really started thinking like, 160 00:09:06,062 --> 00:09:09,307 what is the planet my kids were coming up in? 161 00:09:12,517 --> 00:09:15,278 Any parent wants to provide their kid with this safe, 162 00:09:15,313 --> 00:09:20,076 opportunistic, sky's the limit kind of life. 163 00:09:21,595 --> 00:09:23,597 The more that you look at the science, 164 00:09:23,632 --> 00:09:30,777 it's really clear that we're doing a major disservice to the kids being born today. 165 00:09:36,196 --> 00:09:38,681 I knew that, collectively, 166 00:09:38,716 --> 00:09:42,029 we needed to come together to do something for it. 167 00:09:44,376 --> 00:09:48,346 And that's what led me to start Protect Our Winters. 168 00:09:48,380 --> 00:09:50,072 [PHONE BEEPS] 169 00:10:28,351 --> 00:10:30,008 JEREMY: I hate conflict. 170 00:10:30,043 --> 00:10:35,358 I pride myself in always finding common ground with people over anything. 171 00:10:35,393 --> 00:10:39,673 My idea of a good time is not debating trolls out there. 172 00:10:39,708 --> 00:10:42,987 I mean, there's 413 comments on here. 173 00:10:43,021 --> 00:10:45,368 I don't even know where to start. 174 00:10:45,403 --> 00:10:47,543 Well, here's the classic. 175 00:10:47,577 --> 00:10:51,167 "You fly to Alaska into Alaska range probably all over the world. 176 00:10:51,202 --> 00:10:54,792 And I bet you drive something that utilizes 177 00:10:54,826 --> 00:10:56,483 said fossil fuels on a regular basis. 178 00:10:56,517 --> 00:11:00,694 And those boards you ride are product made from fossil fuels as well." 179 00:11:00,729 --> 00:11:03,835 Hashtag "hypocrisy," hashtag "bandwagon," 180 00:11:03,870 --> 00:11:08,081 hashtag "don't bite the hand that feeds you." 181 00:11:08,115 --> 00:11:11,394 "Dude, don't say stupid crap. This planet is warming 182 00:11:11,429 --> 00:11:14,604 with or without humans, it happens every 10,000 years. 183 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:16,089 We all wanna keep riding, bro." 184 00:11:16,123 --> 00:11:19,506 "Coal is cleaner than wind generated." 185 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:21,335 That's "There's just no science." 186 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:25,305 "Why doesn't Jeremy Jones set an example and stop using fossil fuels himself?" 187 00:11:25,339 --> 00:11:28,342 "No more helicopter flights, synthetic clothing 188 00:11:28,377 --> 00:11:30,413 or epoxy or fiberglass." 189 00:11:30,448 --> 00:11:34,003 My response to that is I live a very examined life, 190 00:11:34,038 --> 00:11:36,281 chipping away at my personal footprint. 191 00:11:36,316 --> 00:11:40,700 It is important for us to embrace ways to reduce our personal footprint. 192 00:11:40,734 --> 00:11:43,737 But we also need large scale, 193 00:11:43,772 --> 00:11:46,464 systemic change to get the reduction that we need. 194 00:11:46,498 --> 00:11:50,744 It's just not getting there with just personal choice. 195 00:11:50,779 --> 00:11:53,574 The Earth may or may not be heating up, 196 00:11:53,609 --> 00:11:57,544 but there's no debate that the fight over man-made climate change certainly is. 197 00:11:57,578 --> 00:12:03,653 We're now at 17 years and eight months of no global warming. 198 00:12:03,688 --> 00:12:05,448 Carbon dioxide has not caused 199 00:12:05,483 --> 00:12:06,933 weather to become more extreme. 200 00:12:06,967 --> 00:12:09,211 We just had two of the coldest years, 201 00:12:09,245 --> 00:12:11,454 the biggest drop in global temperatures. 202 00:12:11,489 --> 00:12:16,287 Bottom line. Big tornadoes F3 and larger since 1950s have dropped dramatically. 203 00:12:16,321 --> 00:12:19,669 Bottom line, we've gone the longest period without a major US category three 204 00:12:19,704 --> 00:12:21,292 or larger hurricane hitting the US. 205 00:12:21,326 --> 00:12:22,017 Bottom line. 206 00:12:22,051 --> 00:12:24,398 This isn't about science. 207 00:12:24,433 --> 00:12:26,055 It's not about facts. 208 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:30,301 This is really about government controlling almost every aspect of your life. 209 00:12:30,335 --> 00:12:33,407 -And 97% of all scientists believe-- -It's just a bogus number. 210 00:12:33,442 --> 00:12:35,547 -It's so not a bogus number. -It's so a bogus number. 211 00:12:35,582 --> 00:12:37,170 Okay, yours is, mine is yours is... 212 00:12:37,204 --> 00:12:39,655 A lot of these scientists are driven by the money that they receive. 213 00:12:39,689 --> 00:12:40,967 If there was no climate change, 214 00:12:41,001 --> 00:12:42,934 we'd have a lot of scientists looking for work. 215 00:12:42,969 --> 00:12:45,523 What about the scientists who say it's worse than ever? 216 00:12:46,282 --> 00:12:47,594 Uh... 217 00:12:47,628 --> 00:12:49,976 I don't think your party's passionately committed to science 218 00:12:50,010 --> 00:12:51,909 or to fighting global warming 219 00:12:51,943 --> 00:12:54,221 or dealing with the scientific facts we live with. 220 00:12:54,256 --> 00:12:56,361 I think the science is very mixed. 221 00:12:59,606 --> 00:13:02,333 JEREMY: It became clear to me that I live in a bubble 222 00:13:02,367 --> 00:13:04,645 with like-minded people, 223 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:10,030 and that there was a large population of this country 224 00:13:10,065 --> 00:13:13,827 that have different views when it comes to climate. 225 00:13:13,862 --> 00:13:15,864 I wanted to know where the spin was coming from. 226 00:13:15,898 --> 00:13:18,038 So, I decided to reach out 227 00:13:18,073 --> 00:13:21,421 to some of the most prominent climate deniers in the country. 228 00:13:21,455 --> 00:13:24,148 People that have spent their whole professional career 229 00:13:24,182 --> 00:13:27,841 trying to discredit this mountain of scientific evidence. 230 00:13:27,876 --> 00:13:30,326 But they're not actually scientists. 231 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,157 [INDISTINCT] 232 00:13:35,642 --> 00:13:37,126 Okay, I'm recording. 233 00:13:44,375 --> 00:13:45,134 MARC MORANO: Hello? 234 00:13:45,169 --> 00:13:46,618 Hey, Marc. How you doing? Jeremy-- 235 00:13:46,653 --> 00:13:49,656 One second, I can't hear you. Let me get the sound. 236 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:51,209 You see me? You don't see me yet? 237 00:13:51,244 --> 00:13:53,763 I don't see you, though. I'd love to see you. 238 00:13:53,798 --> 00:13:56,007 -Hold on. Hold on. -Oh, wait. I got you. 239 00:13:56,042 --> 00:13:57,457 JEREMY: Cool. All right. 240 00:13:57,491 --> 00:14:00,598 To kick things off again, it's pretty clear 241 00:14:00,632 --> 00:14:04,913 that you don't believe in the impacts of climate change 242 00:14:04,947 --> 00:14:10,090 and I guess just getting some background behind why? 243 00:14:10,125 --> 00:14:12,023 Well, good question. 244 00:14:12,058 --> 00:14:13,887 Uh, I won't go too far into my background. 245 00:14:13,922 --> 00:14:17,580 Essentially, I come at this as an investigative reporter, not a scientist. 246 00:14:17,615 --> 00:14:20,652 I like to joke that I sometimes play one on TV, a scientist, 247 00:14:20,687 --> 00:14:25,381 but I look at climate as essentially a political movement, 248 00:14:25,416 --> 00:14:28,419 using the latest environmental scare 249 00:14:28,453 --> 00:14:29,972 to lobby for politics. 250 00:14:30,007 --> 00:14:32,802 When you testified before the House Select Committee on Climate, 251 00:14:32,837 --> 00:14:34,943 that is one of the most anti-freedom, 252 00:14:34,977 --> 00:14:36,082 most regulatory things. 253 00:14:36,116 --> 00:14:38,463 They're excited about the prospect 254 00:14:38,498 --> 00:14:39,637 of government regulation. 255 00:14:39,671 --> 00:14:42,157 So, that's where this debate goes off the rails. 256 00:14:42,191 --> 00:14:44,055 I mean, I couldn't agree more 257 00:14:44,090 --> 00:14:46,816 the facts should not be political. 258 00:14:46,851 --> 00:14:48,957 Hate the fact that it's a partisan issue. 259 00:14:48,991 --> 00:14:51,994 I guess, as you've dug into the science, 260 00:14:52,029 --> 00:14:53,306 I mean, what is... 261 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:56,447 Science gets in line behind the preferred policies, 262 00:14:56,481 --> 00:14:58,311 and we see this with the National Academy of Sciences. 263 00:14:58,345 --> 00:15:00,623 Oh, this is the body founded by Abraham Lincoln, 264 00:15:00,658 --> 00:15:02,315 this august science body, no. 265 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:05,421 It's literally 100% dependent on government funding. 266 00:15:05,456 --> 00:15:07,009 Do you have kids? 267 00:15:07,044 --> 00:15:08,079 I have four kids. 268 00:15:08,114 --> 00:15:09,874 They're being taught that, 269 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:13,257 you know, my old 14-year-old jeep is not a weather machine. 270 00:15:13,291 --> 00:15:15,638 It's not. Your SUV does not control the weather, 271 00:15:15,673 --> 00:15:19,090 that we're not in unprecedented times of any kind. 272 00:15:19,125 --> 00:15:21,265 And I tell them not to worry about climate one ounce. 273 00:15:21,299 --> 00:15:26,097 It's terrifying for me what I'm seeing happening with snow. 274 00:15:26,132 --> 00:15:28,582 It's tough as a business. 275 00:15:28,617 --> 00:15:31,447 I worry about my kids. It keeps me up at night. 276 00:15:31,482 --> 00:15:34,761 The idea that we're faced with climate catastrophe is not happening. 277 00:15:34,795 --> 00:15:37,798 The idea of a climate emergency is a political construct. 278 00:15:37,833 --> 00:15:41,319 When I hear you say about the volatility, of the extremes, 279 00:15:41,354 --> 00:15:43,873 that's called weather, that's called climate, it does that. 280 00:15:43,908 --> 00:15:45,737 You can't predict anything. 281 00:15:45,772 --> 00:15:48,361 It's just that when people tell you that, you know, "The climate's changing, 282 00:15:48,395 --> 00:15:50,915 we're causing it. This is a record here record there," 283 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,020 it's meaningless. 284 00:15:55,609 --> 00:15:57,163 JAMES TAYLOR: I think the important thing is 285 00:15:57,197 --> 00:16:01,477 to understand what it is that divides, 286 00:16:01,512 --> 00:16:04,273 uh, climate activists and climate skeptics. 287 00:16:04,308 --> 00:16:05,516 Really, what it boils down to 288 00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:07,656 is are we creating a climate crisis? 289 00:16:07,690 --> 00:16:10,624 Are we creating a climate where we have 290 00:16:10,659 --> 00:16:14,007 much greater negative impacts than positive impacts? 291 00:16:14,042 --> 00:16:15,629 You guys recognize 292 00:16:15,664 --> 00:16:19,012 that the earth is warming. 293 00:16:19,047 --> 00:16:23,258 You're not sure what the most effective way 294 00:16:23,292 --> 00:16:27,400 to address that or how much humans are playing a role in that? 295 00:16:27,434 --> 00:16:30,368 I think your question, it presupposes 296 00:16:30,403 --> 00:16:31,921 that a warming climate is bad 297 00:16:31,956 --> 00:16:34,338 or a warming climate is something that we must fight. 298 00:16:34,372 --> 00:16:38,411 Where I live, we get our water from snow in the mountains. 299 00:16:38,445 --> 00:16:43,761 Not having snow would affect our water source. 300 00:16:43,795 --> 00:16:45,418 Well, you make a few points there 301 00:16:45,452 --> 00:16:49,732 that we see statistics and facts that contradict this. 302 00:16:49,767 --> 00:16:50,906 So, for example, 303 00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:52,356 well, first of all, about the snow, 304 00:16:52,390 --> 00:16:55,048 if you go to Rutgers Snow Lab, 305 00:16:55,083 --> 00:16:57,154 what they say is for the past 30 years, 306 00:16:57,188 --> 00:16:58,431 the data that they have is that 307 00:16:58,465 --> 00:17:01,192 there has been increasing Snow Cover Extent. 308 00:17:01,227 --> 00:17:04,471 Well, I guess just to back up that, 309 00:17:04,506 --> 00:17:07,992 you know, I am not a climate scientist, 310 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,787 but I am someone whose life 311 00:17:09,821 --> 00:17:13,756 literally revolves and watches every drop of snowfall 312 00:17:13,791 --> 00:17:15,827 in my range and the stuff I do in the mountains 313 00:17:15,862 --> 00:17:21,454 is really based around having a really good understanding of snow. 314 00:17:21,488 --> 00:17:22,800 And so... 315 00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:25,423 It's easy if you think that if you've heard in the media 316 00:17:25,458 --> 00:17:27,253 or from other people, from activists 317 00:17:27,287 --> 00:17:31,395 that global warming is causing decline in snow, 318 00:17:31,429 --> 00:17:33,742 uh, to therefore look around 319 00:17:33,776 --> 00:17:36,124 and try to get a little confirmation bias on that. 320 00:17:36,158 --> 00:17:38,057 But the evidence is what the evidence is. 321 00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:41,612 On average, the amount of snow cover that you're going to see today 322 00:17:41,646 --> 00:17:43,959 is greater than it was 10 years ago, 323 00:17:43,993 --> 00:17:45,478 is greater than it was 20 years ago, 324 00:17:45,512 --> 00:17:47,376 is greater than it was 30 years ago. 325 00:17:47,411 --> 00:17:49,516 And I'm just amused that you would laugh at that 326 00:17:49,551 --> 00:17:51,518 when you're just going on subjective thoughts 327 00:17:51,553 --> 00:17:53,417 and I'm going on scientific evidence. 328 00:17:58,318 --> 00:18:01,356 JEREMY: Misinformation and propaganda works 329 00:18:01,390 --> 00:18:04,221 because it's based in reality, 330 00:18:04,255 --> 00:18:05,843 but it's not real. 331 00:18:07,189 --> 00:18:09,640 Reading a scientific paper 332 00:18:09,674 --> 00:18:12,574 and pulling one fact that supports your narrative 333 00:18:12,608 --> 00:18:14,541 is how the game works. 334 00:18:14,576 --> 00:18:17,337 Because, really, how many people read the science? 335 00:18:22,894 --> 00:18:25,863 It's only when you dive deeper that you find the real facts, 336 00:18:25,897 --> 00:18:27,485 and facts don't lie. 337 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:35,252 Satellite data has shown 338 00:18:35,286 --> 00:18:39,152 a slight increase in snow cover in the fall, 339 00:18:39,187 --> 00:18:41,154 but the average snow cover throughout the year 340 00:18:41,189 --> 00:18:45,365 has decreased year after year after year. 341 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,849 I've seen it firsthand, 342 00:18:46,884 --> 00:18:50,094 and I've heard it from real climate scientists. 343 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:51,509 We can choose not to listen, 344 00:18:51,544 --> 00:18:54,063 or we can choose to do something, 345 00:18:54,098 --> 00:18:57,136 but we can't ignore the facts. 346 00:18:57,170 --> 00:19:00,173 It's science, facts are the facts. 347 00:19:01,209 --> 00:19:03,280 So I have been talking, uh, 348 00:19:03,314 --> 00:19:08,250 recently to these professional climate skeptics, deniers, 349 00:19:08,285 --> 00:19:09,355 what have you. 350 00:19:09,389 --> 00:19:13,324 And the consistency of the messaging 351 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,119 has been impressive. 352 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:16,465 The fact that many of these people 353 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:18,536 have the same talking points is not a coincidence. 354 00:19:18,571 --> 00:19:23,162 Almost all of them are funded through right wing and libertarian think tanks, 355 00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:24,749 and those think tanks are themselves 356 00:19:24,784 --> 00:19:26,682 funded by the fossil fuel industry. 357 00:19:26,717 --> 00:19:29,823 So, there's a very conscious and very deliberate effort 358 00:19:29,858 --> 00:19:31,860 to pump out disinformation. 359 00:19:31,894 --> 00:19:34,932 It's always been about discrediting the science, 360 00:19:34,966 --> 00:19:36,313 trying to make us think 361 00:19:36,347 --> 00:19:38,073 that the scientists don't know what they're talking about 362 00:19:38,107 --> 00:19:42,181 or that scientists are just in it for the money or the attention. 363 00:19:42,215 --> 00:19:44,769 Besides trying to discredit the science, 364 00:19:44,804 --> 00:19:47,876 climate change deniers have really played on identity politics. 365 00:19:47,910 --> 00:19:50,672 They've tried to make conservatives think 366 00:19:50,706 --> 00:19:54,227 that they should not accept the evidence of climate change 367 00:19:54,262 --> 00:19:56,264 because if they do, 368 00:19:56,298 --> 00:19:58,300 it will lead to higher taxes 369 00:19:58,335 --> 00:19:59,439 or bigger government. 370 00:19:59,474 --> 00:20:02,718 Have you had any success 371 00:20:02,753 --> 00:20:07,551 in changing someone's mind on climate? 372 00:20:07,585 --> 00:20:10,381 There are some people who are really, really recalcitrant 373 00:20:10,416 --> 00:20:14,178 but in the middle there's a very wide range of views, 374 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,042 people who maybe kind of get the issue, 375 00:20:16,076 --> 00:20:18,527 but they don't really understand why it's important 376 00:20:18,562 --> 00:20:20,046 or they've heard these things about, 377 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,636 maybe it's a liberal hoax, and so they're not that happy. 378 00:20:23,670 --> 00:20:26,225 And I feel like most of my work is in that space. 379 00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:29,089 It's trying to explain to people this is not a liberal hoax. 380 00:20:29,124 --> 00:20:30,263 It's not a hoax of any kind. 381 00:20:30,298 --> 00:20:31,782 Nobody invented climate change 382 00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:33,956 as an excuse to expand big government 383 00:20:33,991 --> 00:20:35,855 or raise taxes. 384 00:20:35,889 --> 00:20:38,651 But we have this problem and now we have to figure out what the solution is. 385 00:20:38,685 --> 00:20:40,308 And then the other thing is just 386 00:20:40,342 --> 00:20:43,138 to remind people of conservative 387 00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:44,588 and Republican solutions. 388 00:20:44,622 --> 00:20:49,075 We have models of successful conservative interventions, 389 00:20:49,109 --> 00:20:50,628 and so then the question becomes, 390 00:20:50,663 --> 00:20:52,423 "So why has the fossil fuel industry 391 00:20:52,458 --> 00:20:54,218 been denying these models?" 392 00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:55,633 Why does the fossil fuel industry 393 00:20:55,668 --> 00:20:57,394 tell you that climate change is a hoax, 394 00:20:57,428 --> 00:21:01,018 rather than telling you, "Oh, we could fix this with emissions trading, 395 00:21:01,052 --> 00:21:03,089 just as we did for acid rain." 396 00:21:03,123 --> 00:21:05,298 And then that brings to the third important point, 397 00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:07,024 which is that this is a big lie. 398 00:21:07,058 --> 00:21:08,715 That's actually a con game. 399 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:10,786 That the reason we're confused and divided 400 00:21:10,821 --> 00:21:12,409 is because the fossil fuel industry 401 00:21:12,443 --> 00:21:15,998 has been trying deliberately to confuse and divide us. 402 00:21:16,033 --> 00:21:18,587 ExxonMobil is laughing all the way to the bank, 403 00:21:18,622 --> 00:21:22,419 making trillions of dollars in profits off this con game, 404 00:21:22,453 --> 00:21:24,317 and we're stuck paying the bill. 405 00:21:24,352 --> 00:21:25,387 We have to vote. 406 00:21:25,422 --> 00:21:26,664 We have to vote in people 407 00:21:26,699 --> 00:21:28,252 who will represent our interests 408 00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:30,012 and not the fossil fuel industry. 409 00:21:36,502 --> 00:21:39,263 JEREMY: After a decade of going to Washington, DC 410 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:40,885 with Protect Our Winters, 411 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,200 I've learned that these elected officials don't actually lead, 412 00:21:45,234 --> 00:21:46,960 they follow the people. 413 00:21:46,995 --> 00:21:51,896 And there are a handful of purple states that are equally divided 414 00:21:51,931 --> 00:21:53,381 Republican or Democrat 415 00:21:53,415 --> 00:21:55,314 that can go either way. 416 00:21:55,348 --> 00:21:57,108 These are states that swing elections, 417 00:21:57,143 --> 00:22:01,216 and these are the places that will choose our course on climate action. 418 00:22:01,250 --> 00:22:02,976 But a recent New York Times poll 419 00:22:03,011 --> 00:22:06,842 showed that climate is the most divisive issue in our country, 420 00:22:06,877 --> 00:22:08,430 even more than guns. 421 00:22:08,465 --> 00:22:10,915 So much weight is put on these elections 422 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:14,678 with the hope that people just take 10 minutes 423 00:22:14,712 --> 00:22:17,577 out of their day or an hour out of their day 424 00:22:17,612 --> 00:22:19,890 every two to four years 425 00:22:19,924 --> 00:22:23,687 and just check a box for what they believe in. 426 00:22:25,585 --> 00:22:28,036 I live in the blue state of California, 427 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:30,590 just 30 minutes from Nevada. 428 00:22:30,625 --> 00:22:34,767 And Nevada is one of those crucial states. 429 00:22:34,801 --> 00:22:40,048 It's actually the most mountainous state in the lower 48. 430 00:22:40,082 --> 00:22:43,292 So, I started exploring Nevada 431 00:22:43,327 --> 00:22:44,846 just to get a feel for it. 432 00:22:46,986 --> 00:22:50,852 All right, man, we might just have to start exploring. 433 00:22:57,445 --> 00:23:01,932 Oh, I just really missed carrying a heavy pack. 434 00:23:03,899 --> 00:23:06,868 JEREMY: As a country, we used to agree 435 00:23:06,902 --> 00:23:09,457 that the environment was worth protecting. 436 00:23:11,217 --> 00:23:15,359 Conservation used to be a bedrock issue for conservatives 437 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:16,740 not that long ago. 438 00:23:20,433 --> 00:23:21,676 Richard Nixon championed 439 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:24,713 a lot of our environmental laws. 440 00:23:24,748 --> 00:23:26,991 He signed the Clean Air and Clean Water Act 441 00:23:27,026 --> 00:23:28,855 and created the EPA. 442 00:23:32,376 --> 00:23:35,414 Why has it become so polarizing 443 00:23:35,448 --> 00:23:37,692 that people have made it their job 444 00:23:37,726 --> 00:23:40,211 to troll people like myself 445 00:23:40,246 --> 00:23:44,146 that are fighting for clean air and clean water? 446 00:23:49,082 --> 00:23:53,121 It's just amazing how divided we have become. 447 00:24:09,965 --> 00:24:11,208 Yeah. 448 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:14,832 Just totally blown away 449 00:24:14,867 --> 00:24:20,251 at the raw wilderness in Nevada. 450 00:24:21,114 --> 00:24:22,322 Everywhere I look, 451 00:24:22,357 --> 00:24:24,601 protected land covered in snow 452 00:24:24,635 --> 00:24:26,499 that provides water 453 00:24:26,534 --> 00:24:29,985 for farmers, family and a healthy ecosystem. 454 00:24:31,642 --> 00:24:33,368 It's what I live for. 455 00:24:33,402 --> 00:24:35,715 Seeing new mountains, 456 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:38,753 picking out what really calls your name 457 00:24:38,787 --> 00:24:40,617 and figuring out how to climb them. 458 00:24:52,629 --> 00:24:55,148 One thing that probably gets under my skin 459 00:24:55,183 --> 00:25:01,292 more than anything is when I'm being attacked as being Un-American, 460 00:25:01,327 --> 00:25:04,813 because I'm very proud about the country I live in. 461 00:25:07,989 --> 00:25:11,648 Patriotism isn't just about waving the flag around. 462 00:25:11,682 --> 00:25:14,202 It's about coming together as a nation 463 00:25:14,236 --> 00:25:17,895 and working hard to solve these key issues. 464 00:25:20,864 --> 00:25:24,074 America is based on people 465 00:25:24,108 --> 00:25:25,869 standing up for what they believe in. 466 00:25:25,903 --> 00:25:28,837 It's based on people having different opinions 467 00:25:28,872 --> 00:25:32,082 and coming together and finding common ground. 468 00:25:36,604 --> 00:25:40,297 What we stopped doing as Americans and society 469 00:25:40,331 --> 00:25:41,850 is talking to each other. 470 00:25:48,650 --> 00:25:51,308 Big badass mountains. 471 00:25:52,205 --> 00:25:55,277 Love my Nevada board. 472 00:25:59,627 --> 00:26:05,080 MAN: The whole point of the climate change advocate alarmism is shame 473 00:26:05,115 --> 00:26:09,706 to get you to stop behaving in ways they say are destroying the planet. 474 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:12,087 That's how they've succeeded in it. 475 00:26:12,122 --> 00:26:17,472 JEREMY: I always wondered if we are as divided as they say we are. 476 00:26:17,506 --> 00:26:22,235 I think everyone wants a clean, healthy environment for their family. 477 00:26:22,270 --> 00:26:26,136 We just gotta figure out how to get there. 478 00:26:26,170 --> 00:26:31,382 I decided to go to one of the most conservative counties in rural Nevada, 479 00:26:31,417 --> 00:26:35,145 and talk to these people that love the mountains as much as I do. 480 00:26:40,702 --> 00:26:44,810 CHAD: Right here we're about a half a mile from the base of the Ruby Mountains. 481 00:26:44,844 --> 00:26:48,227 From our backyard, we can hike basically from here to 9800 ft 482 00:26:48,261 --> 00:26:50,816 and ski back to the house in the wintertime. 483 00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:52,990 It's a winter wonderland here. 484 00:26:55,337 --> 00:26:58,582 I've been involved with National Ski Patrol for 23 years. 485 00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:02,034 You know, I grew up in the Sierra foothills and the mountains are my home. 486 00:27:02,068 --> 00:27:03,725 That's where I find my peace. 487 00:27:05,002 --> 00:27:06,763 It's been a great place for my kids. 488 00:27:11,146 --> 00:27:16,358 Skiing is the one hobby that really challenges us. 489 00:27:16,393 --> 00:27:19,776 But all of us take an interest in reviving old Volkswagens 490 00:27:19,810 --> 00:27:23,020 or old dune buggies and bringing them back to life. 491 00:27:23,055 --> 00:27:25,816 Those are things that bring our family together 492 00:27:25,851 --> 00:27:28,025 and keep our family connected. 493 00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:30,545 -Oh, that's a simple fix. -Ah... 494 00:27:30,579 --> 00:27:31,995 Looks like we need a new hose clamp. 495 00:27:32,029 --> 00:27:33,686 -GIRL 1: Oh! -GIRL 2: Mm. 496 00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:38,380 [ENGINE REVVING] 497 00:27:41,970 --> 00:27:46,181 LINDY: Many of my friends have been born and raised here. 498 00:27:47,873 --> 00:27:53,395 I think coming from a place that's very different than this 499 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:55,674 has given me a lot of insight. 500 00:27:58,607 --> 00:28:05,511 Like the cool thing around Elko County is trucks, horses and cows. 501 00:28:05,545 --> 00:28:08,169 I mean, I agree those are all cool, 502 00:28:08,203 --> 00:28:10,896 but there's a lot of other cool stuff too. 503 00:28:11,551 --> 00:28:14,002 Skiing, rocks. 504 00:28:14,037 --> 00:28:17,696 I don't think anyone else in my class of like 200 505 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,283 is going into geology. 506 00:28:25,738 --> 00:28:27,740 Right now with the climate change, 507 00:28:27,775 --> 00:28:30,018 I think it comes down to our groups. 508 00:28:30,053 --> 00:28:33,608 Just like high school, we have our little social groups 509 00:28:33,642 --> 00:28:35,817 and we want to fit in. 510 00:28:35,852 --> 00:28:40,719 If you agree with another group's perspective, 511 00:28:40,753 --> 00:28:45,413 your group might say, "Hey, we don't like that," and kick you out. 512 00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:50,038 I think a lot of people don't speak up. 513 00:28:50,073 --> 00:28:53,110 They just go with the group mentality of, 514 00:28:53,145 --> 00:28:56,079 "They believe this, so I will also." 515 00:29:01,153 --> 00:29:06,917 Volkswagen people are their own group. It has no lines. 516 00:29:06,952 --> 00:29:12,095 They share a love of driving their old tin cans. 517 00:29:12,889 --> 00:29:14,511 Skiing is very similar. 518 00:29:14,545 --> 00:29:17,617 They come from all different backgrounds, all different beliefs. 519 00:29:17,652 --> 00:29:22,139 But when it comes down to it, like, skiers just want to ski. 520 00:29:24,866 --> 00:29:27,420 JEREMY: I'm psyched to be out on your home mountain. 521 00:29:27,455 --> 00:29:29,802 CHAD: Yeah, this is the big Elko Snobowl. 522 00:29:29,837 --> 00:29:31,562 Patrolled here for a long time. 523 00:29:31,597 --> 00:29:34,289 It's definitely a great place for local families to learn how to ski. 524 00:29:34,324 --> 00:29:37,603 -We have our one chairlift.-And how much is the lift ticket? 525 00:29:37,637 --> 00:29:40,640 Twenty dollars for a lift ticket here, $20 for a rental. 526 00:29:40,675 --> 00:29:43,057 And if you're just doingthe rope tow and you're just getting going, 527 00:29:43,091 --> 00:29:45,300 it's cheaper. Cheaper yet. 528 00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:52,480 What's up, Justin? Nice to meet you. 529 00:29:52,514 --> 00:29:54,344 Gosh, pleasure to meet you. 530 00:29:56,311 --> 00:29:58,382 You're a geologist? 531 00:29:58,417 --> 00:30:01,178 Yeah, that was... That was what I went to school for. 532 00:30:01,213 --> 00:30:04,388 Mostly what I'm doing now is project management in mining... 533 00:30:04,423 --> 00:30:05,700 Yup. 534 00:30:05,734 --> 00:30:10,429 Both here and doing quite a bit over in Kazakhstan as well. 535 00:30:10,463 --> 00:30:13,018 Wow, there's some mountains there, huh? 536 00:30:13,052 --> 00:30:13,915 Yeah. 537 00:30:18,886 --> 00:30:20,853 -Thank you, sir. -Welcome. 538 00:30:22,027 --> 00:30:24,374 JEREMY: It's awesome to get out here with you. 539 00:30:24,408 --> 00:30:27,929 You know, someone who makes their living as a hunting guide. 540 00:30:27,964 --> 00:30:31,588 And as I learn more and more about conservation, 541 00:30:31,622 --> 00:30:36,075 I've learned that hunters are really the original conservationists, 542 00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:37,974 you know, through the Roosevelt era. 543 00:30:38,008 --> 00:30:42,771 And quite frankly, I think the outdoor community has a lot we can learn from 544 00:30:42,806 --> 00:30:47,086 the hunting community when it comes to protecting these public lands. 545 00:30:49,261 --> 00:30:52,160 What were you doing when-- You were boring holes underground? 546 00:30:52,195 --> 00:30:55,439 Yes, in New York, they were fixing the old aqueduct to supply 547 00:30:55,474 --> 00:30:58,546 500 million gallons a day to New York City. 548 00:30:58,580 --> 00:31:03,102 We came in, dropped like a $15 million machine down there and put it together 549 00:31:03,137 --> 00:31:05,794 and then drove away from the existing aqueduct, 550 00:31:05,829 --> 00:31:08,314 went underneath the Hudson, tied back in. 551 00:31:08,349 --> 00:31:11,179 So we go down the bottom of the shaft, get on a locomotive, 552 00:31:11,214 --> 00:31:13,009 go into the tunnel boring machine, 553 00:31:13,043 --> 00:31:16,875 and then you'd just be sitting there mining and building rings, all shift. 554 00:31:16,909 --> 00:31:22,156 I'm assuming you must have tons of engineers, like, the science and engineering, 555 00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:25,055 to do something like that is cutting edge. 556 00:31:25,090 --> 00:31:27,368 It's almost like going into space. 557 00:31:27,402 --> 00:31:30,129 I had a great time, but like I said, it was either 558 00:31:30,164 --> 00:31:34,651 I do that and, like, focus on a career and money and, like, a powerful position. 559 00:31:34,685 --> 00:31:38,068 Or I come out and just focus more on life and living. 560 00:31:40,864 --> 00:31:42,452 I'm stoked you hit me up. 561 00:31:42,486 --> 00:31:44,937 Yeah, I was surprised. I'm like, man, there's thousands and thousands 562 00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:47,181 of riders like, pro riders that probably 563 00:31:47,215 --> 00:31:49,252 would wanna go ride with Jeremy, I don't know 564 00:31:49,286 --> 00:31:53,912 -why he's calling me, but... -Dude, this is your range, man. 565 00:31:53,946 --> 00:31:56,086 You spend more time here than anyone. 566 00:31:56,121 --> 00:31:59,676 You're the only local split border I know in this area. 567 00:32:01,195 --> 00:32:04,336 DANNY: I have no doubt climate is changing. 568 00:32:04,370 --> 00:32:06,200 -I mean, that's a no brainer. -Right. 569 00:32:06,234 --> 00:32:08,443 I guess my question to you is, 570 00:32:08,478 --> 00:32:11,757 why is it that, like here we're standing on ground that was 571 00:32:11,791 --> 00:32:15,968 considerably warmer, maybe a tropical climate at one point? 572 00:32:16,003 --> 00:32:18,522 JEREMY: I mean, a lot of this stuff was ocean, which is amazing. 573 00:32:18,557 --> 00:32:21,801 So the Earth has had several cycles, it's always changing. 574 00:32:21,836 --> 00:32:26,530 JEREMY: You're totally right. Glaciers move and shrink, and I mean, 575 00:32:26,565 --> 00:32:29,948 -they shaped these mountains. -That's right. 576 00:32:29,982 --> 00:32:33,986 -Um, it's just that the speed is why the alarm is coming. -Okay. 577 00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:38,370 JEREMY: You know, records show that it's happening 100 times faster than it ever has. 578 00:32:41,028 --> 00:32:45,170 Like your world operates on peer reviewed science 579 00:32:45,204 --> 00:32:49,415 from the best universities in the world, 580 00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:53,523 and that science is from the same universities 581 00:32:53,557 --> 00:32:55,939 -that the climate science is coming from. -Right. 582 00:32:55,974 --> 00:33:00,150 JEREMY: There's massive consensus from the scientific community 583 00:33:00,185 --> 00:33:03,464 that burning CO2 is warming the planet. 584 00:33:03,498 --> 00:33:07,744 I mean, imagine you going down 900 feet down and being like, 585 00:33:07,778 --> 00:33:13,129 98.8% of the scientists are telling you to do it this way. 586 00:33:13,163 --> 00:33:15,959 The rest are saying you do it that way, 587 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:17,547 -you know, you're gonna die. -Yeah. 588 00:33:17,581 --> 00:33:21,206 I would assume you guys are going with the 98 percent. 589 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,036 DANNY: I'm definitely not, um, like, kind of fighting. 590 00:33:24,071 --> 00:33:25,624 saying no, no, it's not happening. 591 00:33:25,658 --> 00:33:28,420 -You don't fight the science? -No, No, But it's just tough 592 00:33:28,454 --> 00:33:30,491 around here because, you know, the climate 593 00:33:30,525 --> 00:33:34,115 talk gets lumped into a bunch of other policies 594 00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:36,428 that are mostly in the liberal agenda. 595 00:33:36,462 --> 00:33:38,671 A lot of times that comes with a lot of other stuff 596 00:33:38,706 --> 00:33:40,673 that affects their business and their livelihood. 597 00:33:40,708 --> 00:33:43,055 -JEREMY: And their ideology, -DANNY: For sure, yeah, 598 00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:46,334 JEREMY: I'm a single-issue voter, as you can tell. 599 00:33:46,369 --> 00:33:51,581 I'll get past everything. If you're like serious about climate, 600 00:33:51,615 --> 00:33:54,308 you can get elected, I'm all in. 601 00:33:55,619 --> 00:34:00,417 So one of the things that we tried to do is to unify 602 00:34:00,452 --> 00:34:02,868 what we call the outdoor state, which is, 603 00:34:02,902 --> 00:34:04,766 all these outdoor enthusiasts, 604 00:34:04,801 --> 00:34:08,287 hunters and anglers, people that really relate 605 00:34:08,322 --> 00:34:12,809 to the outdoors, that rely on a healthy environment, 606 00:34:12,843 --> 00:34:17,331 to come together to fight for the environment. 607 00:34:17,365 --> 00:34:24,234 And specifically we recognize that long-term, climate change is the biggest threat. 608 00:34:24,269 --> 00:34:28,411 Yeah, because I mean it is a common, common thread. 609 00:34:28,445 --> 00:34:29,860 I mean yeah. 610 00:34:29,895 --> 00:34:33,001 I think it should be a no brainer that it's a non-partisan issue. 611 00:34:33,036 --> 00:34:35,625 I mean, it's just, uh, just a human issue. 612 00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:40,906 Unfortunately, I think we're gonna need something borderline catastrophic, 613 00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:43,495 if not catastrophic, to wake people up, 614 00:34:43,529 --> 00:34:47,292 and to make serious positive change, unfortunately. 615 00:34:47,326 --> 00:34:49,639 That's what I feel in my heart. 616 00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:51,227 I mean, my daughter is only nine years old. 617 00:34:51,261 --> 00:34:53,919 I'm genuinely scared for her future. 618 00:34:53,953 --> 00:34:56,232 -JEREMY: Yeah. -Genuinely. I mean, 619 00:34:57,025 --> 00:34:58,855 it's no joke. 620 00:34:58,889 --> 00:35:02,272 JEREMY: It's hard because the last thing you wanna do is, like, tell your daughter 621 00:35:02,307 --> 00:35:04,240 that you know, it's like everything's fine, 622 00:35:04,274 --> 00:35:06,207 like you don't wanna freak them out, 623 00:35:06,242 --> 00:35:07,657 but it's like... 624 00:35:07,691 --> 00:35:10,729 MICHAEL: I'm laughing because I've already told her that. 625 00:35:10,763 --> 00:35:12,075 [ENGINE REVVING] 626 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:14,664 JUSTIN: There are numerous coal fire power plants here, 627 00:35:14,698 --> 00:35:16,148 in northern Nevada. 628 00:35:16,183 --> 00:35:20,497 Held to really strict regulatory standards, emission standards. 629 00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:22,603 You look at the emissions coming out 630 00:35:22,637 --> 00:35:27,194 of those coal fire plants in those 2nd and 3rd World countries, 631 00:35:27,228 --> 00:35:29,161 and it's a black cloud coming out of it, 632 00:35:29,196 --> 00:35:30,990 -and it's nothing that... -Yeah. 633 00:35:31,025 --> 00:35:32,958 ...you see coming out of the ones here. 634 00:35:32,992 --> 00:35:34,960 Like I say, the regulation in the US 635 00:35:34,994 --> 00:35:38,032 is far and above the regulation across the rest of the world. 636 00:35:38,066 --> 00:35:42,623 We had this whole Paris climate accord, we pulled out of it. 637 00:35:42,657 --> 00:35:45,660 It was pretty much for that reason 638 00:35:45,695 --> 00:35:49,561 was you know, the US didn't want to pay for these other countries 639 00:35:49,595 --> 00:35:52,288 to say that, "Oh yeah, we care about the environment, 640 00:35:52,322 --> 00:35:54,635 but we're not gonna do anything about it." 641 00:35:54,669 --> 00:35:58,466 What bothers me, I think with some of the climate change legislation 642 00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:02,160 stuff that's going on, is it really affects just our country 643 00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:04,817 and we're still doing business internationally. 644 00:36:05,784 --> 00:36:09,788 Here we cripple our industry, but we still 645 00:36:09,822 --> 00:36:13,481 contribute to pollution by still buying those products 646 00:36:13,516 --> 00:36:15,966 from someone else that's just gonna pollute the environment. 647 00:36:16,001 --> 00:36:20,488 JEREMY: My big issue with it is, you know, the US 648 00:36:20,523 --> 00:36:24,906 extracts more fossil fuel than any country in the world. 649 00:36:24,941 --> 00:36:31,430 We heavily subsidize it, a ton of it is on public land. 650 00:36:31,465 --> 00:36:35,607 And we know that the burning of fossil fuels 651 00:36:35,641 --> 00:36:40,439 is a major contributor to warming of the climate. 652 00:36:40,474 --> 00:36:45,030 We do know ways to create clean energy. 653 00:36:45,064 --> 00:36:49,517 I just would like to see the country embrace that more. 654 00:36:49,552 --> 00:36:53,659 At the very least, I'd just love to see an even playing field. 655 00:36:53,694 --> 00:36:55,799 It's gonna have to be phased out eventually. 656 00:36:55,834 --> 00:36:59,700 You know, just because I mean, we're gonna run out of those resources. 657 00:36:59,734 --> 00:37:02,841 The main word there is transition 658 00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:05,844 and it's not a light switch. You can't just shut it off. 659 00:37:05,878 --> 00:37:10,366 Hundred percent, there is not a single plan like, 660 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,474 "Shut off all coal and oil tomorrow." 661 00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:19,444 Just depending on who you listen to. Yeah. 662 00:37:19,478 --> 00:37:23,482 I mean, there are some radicals on either side. 663 00:37:23,517 --> 00:37:24,897 -Right. -In reality, 664 00:37:24,932 --> 00:37:28,315 everybody's probably looking at something down the middle 665 00:37:28,349 --> 00:37:29,592 that everyone can agree on. 666 00:37:29,626 --> 00:37:33,354 But politics has become a game recently. 667 00:37:33,389 --> 00:37:35,701 -A sporting event. -Yeah, exactly. 668 00:37:37,116 --> 00:37:40,085 DANNY: I think the big thing is solutions for it, you know? 669 00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:43,951 That's where people get hung up, it's easier to blame, 670 00:37:43,985 --> 00:37:46,229 like there's no problem. 671 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:52,718 JEREMY: Well, I think debating solutions is a great debate. 672 00:37:52,753 --> 00:37:59,104 We have half the country, that is poking holes in the science 673 00:37:59,138 --> 00:38:04,592 when we need 100% of the people figuring out solutions. 674 00:38:04,627 --> 00:38:08,009 DANNY: Yeah, no, it's for sure. 675 00:38:08,044 --> 00:38:11,392 JEREMY: You know, I like to think about it like climbing a mountain. 676 00:38:11,427 --> 00:38:15,741 Like I'm not saying we have the summit ridge. 677 00:38:15,776 --> 00:38:18,951 We have our Hillary Step, to equate it to Everest, 678 00:38:18,986 --> 00:38:23,611 figured out, but we know which way the summit is, 679 00:38:23,646 --> 00:38:26,718 and we're still in base camp arguing about 680 00:38:26,752 --> 00:38:30,100 how to finish the summit ridge. 681 00:38:30,135 --> 00:38:34,277 And it's like maybe we should just start walking to camp one. 682 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,107 We definitely know how to get to camp one. 683 00:38:37,142 --> 00:38:42,285 We actually know how to get about three quarters of the way. 684 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,807 Let's start just going one step at a time. 685 00:38:46,841 --> 00:38:49,050 You know, I think there's a lot we have in common. 686 00:38:49,085 --> 00:38:52,399 -MICHAEL: Yeah, I agree. -You're hunting in the mountains 687 00:38:52,433 --> 00:38:55,402 As I am, I'm just hunting for different stuff. 688 00:38:55,436 --> 00:38:57,542 You're hunting for the ultimate turn, I guess, 689 00:38:57,576 --> 00:39:00,752 and I'm hunting for the elusive mule deer. 690 00:39:00,786 --> 00:39:02,754 JEREMY: I don't know if I could take the shot, 691 00:39:02,788 --> 00:39:05,032 because, full disclaimer. I don't eat meat. 692 00:39:05,066 --> 00:39:08,449 Well, full disclosure, I'm a carnivore, so I'll take the meat. 693 00:39:08,484 --> 00:39:10,969 [BOTH LAUGHING] 694 00:39:13,281 --> 00:39:16,664 DANNY: We get some epic sunsets in this state, that's for sure. 695 00:39:16,699 --> 00:39:20,530 -We're lucky to be here. -We are lucky to be here. 696 00:39:20,565 --> 00:39:22,463 DANNY: I appreciate the conversation, it's good. 697 00:39:22,498 --> 00:39:24,914 I have more questions than I have definitive answers. 698 00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:27,192 I'm not opposed to someone proving me wrong. 699 00:39:27,226 --> 00:39:31,127 I don't have that big of an ego where I feel that I'll never accept information. 700 00:39:31,161 --> 00:39:34,786 I just want to see it presented to me in a fashion that seems credible. 701 00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:37,375 JEREMY: I think if you step back, you know, 702 00:39:37,409 --> 00:39:40,412 we're all on the same team, team planet Earth. 703 00:39:47,799 --> 00:39:50,077 Classic coulee. 704 00:39:54,461 --> 00:39:56,739 Yeah, man, we're doing it. 705 00:39:58,672 --> 00:40:01,399 -Love this stuff. -DANNY: Yeah. Great. 706 00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:03,124 You got a nice backyard, Danny. 707 00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:04,229 That's right. 708 00:40:04,263 --> 00:40:05,920 What dreams are made of. 709 00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:28,529 JEREMY: Good old fashioned boarding. 710 00:40:28,564 --> 00:40:30,876 Dropping, baby. Yeah. 711 00:40:47,272 --> 00:40:48,929 [JEREMY YELLING] 712 00:41:05,221 --> 00:41:07,016 DANNY: Yeah, buddy. 713 00:41:18,993 --> 00:41:20,685 JEREMY: Keep it going. 714 00:41:35,872 --> 00:41:37,564 Whoo! 715 00:41:44,053 --> 00:41:46,365 DANNY: You wouldn't think that a hard rock miner 716 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,472 from Northeast Nevada and a pro snowboarder from California 717 00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:55,443 would ever really meet up, talk about everything and go snowboard in the mountains. 718 00:41:55,478 --> 00:41:57,998 That's not something that's normal. 719 00:42:00,103 --> 00:42:02,278 But, it's the type of communication and interaction 720 00:42:02,312 --> 00:42:06,593 that I think we need to get out there more, get different opinions. 721 00:42:08,836 --> 00:42:11,908 Coming from a bigger city or a different state, 722 00:42:11,943 --> 00:42:15,740 you got different things that push your buttons, different things are important to you. 723 00:42:15,774 --> 00:42:18,259 And just because I haven't thought about it, 724 00:42:18,294 --> 00:42:20,399 and it's not important to me doesn't mean that 725 00:42:20,434 --> 00:42:21,780 it's not a big issue. 726 00:42:21,815 --> 00:42:25,957 DANNY: Yeah, Jeremy. [LAUGHS] 727 00:42:28,753 --> 00:42:30,444 JEREMY: I met some great people in Nevada, 728 00:42:30,478 --> 00:42:35,069 even made some new friends, had some great conversations. 729 00:42:35,104 --> 00:42:39,660 And it turns out we are a lot closer on many of these issues. 730 00:42:39,695 --> 00:42:43,940 -Yeah, yeah. -Yeah. Whoo! 731 00:42:43,975 --> 00:42:46,874 JEREMY: But the heartbreaking reality 732 00:42:46,909 --> 00:42:49,739 is that unless some conservative leaders 733 00:42:49,774 --> 00:42:52,949 change their mind on climate, 734 00:42:52,984 --> 00:42:55,780 there's no candidates that these conservatives who care about 735 00:42:55,814 --> 00:42:57,920 the environment can vote for. 736 00:43:00,681 --> 00:43:03,477 It made me wonder if a conservative leader 737 00:43:03,511 --> 00:43:07,757 could get past identity politics and take climate serious. 738 00:43:10,242 --> 00:43:13,729 Are you afraid of the climate crisis? 739 00:43:13,763 --> 00:43:16,317 If I only listened to politicians like Al Gore, 740 00:43:16,352 --> 00:43:19,389 I'd be afraid too, very afraid too. Very afraid. 741 00:43:19,424 --> 00:43:22,876 JERRY TAYLOR: So I came out of the precincts of the right is a young man. 742 00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:27,984 I found myself working at the Cato Institute in 1991. 743 00:43:28,019 --> 00:43:31,539 I was hired to oversee their energy and environmental policies. 744 00:43:31,574 --> 00:43:35,474 For the better part of the next 23 years 745 00:43:35,509 --> 00:43:39,686 I spent my time at Cato arguing against the case for climate action. 746 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:41,204 You're not that worried. 747 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,553 Not particularly. There have been about 13 studies. 748 00:43:45,588 --> 00:43:49,178 Four of the estimates are that the economy would actually improve... 749 00:43:49,212 --> 00:43:51,180 But I found my ability to make a convincing case 750 00:43:51,214 --> 00:43:53,458 just completely fell apart over time. 751 00:43:53,492 --> 00:43:57,911 It's a monumental move that very few people have made. 752 00:43:57,945 --> 00:43:59,809 What changed your mind? 753 00:43:59,844 --> 00:44:01,846 It was not any one thing. 754 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,539 It was a series of three or four things. 755 00:44:05,573 --> 00:44:08,473 The first thing was my lack of faith 756 00:44:08,507 --> 00:44:12,684 in the overarching scientific narratives we were telling. 757 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,551 It also became clear to me that I had not been doing my due diligence 758 00:44:17,585 --> 00:44:19,415 in really putting a critical eye 759 00:44:19,449 --> 00:44:21,693 to the arguments I wanted to believe to be true, 760 00:44:21,728 --> 00:44:24,869 that seemed, intuitively, pretty strong, 761 00:44:24,903 --> 00:44:27,837 and I found over and over and over again 762 00:44:27,872 --> 00:44:30,081 I was seeing variations of exactly this kind of thing. 763 00:44:30,115 --> 00:44:32,393 Sometimes, it was cherry picked data sets. 764 00:44:32,428 --> 00:44:34,741 Sometimes it was misrepresenting the position 765 00:44:34,775 --> 00:44:38,468 that was actually being taken by the mainstream scientific community. 766 00:44:38,503 --> 00:44:43,059 I'd love to just ask you a couple quick fire questions on 767 00:44:43,094 --> 00:44:45,510 what they're telling me, what I'm consistently hearing. 768 00:44:45,544 --> 00:44:48,858 So climate change is natural. We've seen fluctuations 769 00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:50,549 throughout history. 770 00:44:50,584 --> 00:44:52,379 That's like saying death is natural. 771 00:44:52,413 --> 00:44:54,139 We've seen people die all through history. 772 00:44:54,174 --> 00:44:56,003 That doesn't mean that Bob shot Jim. 773 00:44:56,038 --> 00:45:00,076 The [BLEEP] kind of argument is that? I'm sorry. I'm being... It's Friday. 774 00:45:00,111 --> 00:45:01,491 That's great. 775 00:45:01,526 --> 00:45:05,910 Okay, next one, there isn't a consensus amongst climate scientists 776 00:45:05,944 --> 00:45:07,877 on human-caused climate change. 777 00:45:07,912 --> 00:45:11,639 Screaming total out of this world goddamn lie. 778 00:45:11,674 --> 00:45:14,021 Every single survey of credentialed, 779 00:45:14,056 --> 00:45:17,093 peer reviewed published climate experts 780 00:45:17,128 --> 00:45:19,233 shows a near absolute consensus. 781 00:45:19,268 --> 00:45:21,857 Earth is old. We only have 100 years of data. 782 00:45:21,891 --> 00:45:23,306 Yeah, both true, 783 00:45:23,341 --> 00:45:28,070 but we know how to estimate temperatures from the past 784 00:45:28,104 --> 00:45:30,728 based on, you know, carbon rings 785 00:45:30,762 --> 00:45:32,522 and all kinds of sediment analysis and ice core. 786 00:45:32,557 --> 00:45:35,905 We're not, like, making this crap up or go playing on a Ouija board. 787 00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:38,736 Addressing climate change will ruin the economy. 788 00:45:38,770 --> 00:45:40,220 Yeah, these things will not be cheap. 789 00:45:40,254 --> 00:45:43,188 It's going to cost, depending upon your estimates, 790 00:45:43,223 --> 00:45:48,953 and your policy preferences, between six and $20 trillion in global decarbonizing. 791 00:45:48,987 --> 00:45:52,059 But, what are the costs of not globally decarbonizing? 792 00:45:52,094 --> 00:45:53,647 Well, there'll be a [BLEEP] ton more. 793 00:45:53,681 --> 00:45:57,030 I can tell you my biggest take away 794 00:45:57,064 --> 00:46:00,827 is just how blown away I am on their utter 795 00:46:00,861 --> 00:46:05,763 and total certainty that there is no problem here. 796 00:46:05,797 --> 00:46:08,593 It was actually, like, really hard to 797 00:46:08,627 --> 00:46:12,148 have a conversation with them because 798 00:46:12,183 --> 00:46:16,187 they're so cemented in their points of view. 799 00:46:16,221 --> 00:46:18,396 Risk management is not about picking 800 00:46:18,430 --> 00:46:21,330 the most likely scenario based on what we know 801 00:46:21,364 --> 00:46:24,229 and saying, policy needs to be determined on that scenario. 802 00:46:24,264 --> 00:46:27,439 You have to weight the probabilities of each of these 803 00:46:27,474 --> 00:46:29,648 scenarios coming to play, coming to pass, 804 00:46:29,683 --> 00:46:31,961 and looking at the costs and benefits that follow from each of them. 805 00:46:31,996 --> 00:46:35,620 If you do that, it is absolutely unmistakable 806 00:46:35,654 --> 00:46:38,485 that we need to decarbonize as fast as possible. 807 00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,867 'Cause if we're wrong about the scenario, 808 00:46:40,901 --> 00:46:42,420 we don't get the more likely scenario, 809 00:46:42,454 --> 00:46:45,837 we get a low probability, high impact scenario, 810 00:46:45,872 --> 00:46:47,632 it's game over. There is no other planet. 811 00:46:47,666 --> 00:46:51,291 There's no other way to, you know, we're just, we're completely effed. 812 00:47:10,897 --> 00:47:12,450 Right in here. 813 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:20,285 Under this eye. Yeah. 814 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:25,463 -[MACHINE BEEPING] -Yeah. 815 00:47:27,361 --> 00:47:28,535 Hold on. Okay. 816 00:47:28,569 --> 00:47:30,675 I got you. You're good. 817 00:47:30,709 --> 00:47:33,851 All right, we're off. 818 00:47:42,411 --> 00:47:46,070 So just we want to move through the convex rolls 819 00:47:46,104 --> 00:47:50,660 mm, with speed and kind of be a little light on them. 820 00:47:52,248 --> 00:47:56,321 and then, Cass, with your line, we just, 821 00:47:56,356 --> 00:48:00,705 I want to dally in with a cornice entry. 822 00:48:00,739 --> 00:48:02,500 -Okay. -Umm... 823 00:48:02,534 --> 00:48:03,915 There will be sluff. 824 00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:08,299 So if you do have to stop or you fall or something in the fall line, 825 00:48:09,507 --> 00:48:12,406 you expect some sluff coming down on you. 826 00:48:13,994 --> 00:48:17,204 Three, two, one, dropping. 827 00:48:26,973 --> 00:48:28,975 First crux of the day. 828 00:48:35,533 --> 00:48:38,432 CASS: Mia Jones, dropping. 829 00:48:38,467 --> 00:48:41,332 Make some nice heel turns to the toe. 830 00:48:44,507 --> 00:48:45,923 Nice air. 831 00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:54,517 JEREMY: You should get some Mom power. 832 00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:57,727 MIA: Yeah, Mom! 833 00:49:00,592 --> 00:49:03,492 JEREMY: It's not hard to understand what's at stake here, 834 00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:07,323 but sometimes you gotta step back and realize 835 00:49:07,358 --> 00:49:09,981 what the fight's all about. 836 00:49:10,016 --> 00:49:11,983 We don't have to agree on everything. 837 00:49:12,018 --> 00:49:14,261 But we do need to stop arguing, 838 00:49:14,296 --> 00:49:17,057 and start working together on solutions. 839 00:49:19,439 --> 00:49:23,339 We have an opportunity to make real change. 840 00:49:24,444 --> 00:49:28,793 Change is scary, but change is constant. 841 00:49:28,827 --> 00:49:32,452 And with change comes opportunities. 842 00:49:33,798 --> 00:49:35,455 -Cass. -[OVER MICROPHONE] Yeah. 843 00:49:35,489 --> 00:49:38,699 JEREMY: Are you going cornice or the rock or you crossed? 844 00:49:38,734 --> 00:49:39,942 Cornice. 845 00:49:39,977 --> 00:49:43,532 Okay, make sure you have your direction perfect. 846 00:49:43,808 --> 00:49:45,327 Ready? 847 00:49:51,022 --> 00:49:53,749 JEREMY: [SIGHS] So close. 848 00:49:55,751 --> 00:49:57,339 Good try. 849 00:49:58,202 --> 00:50:00,273 I think it was Martin Luther King 850 00:50:00,307 --> 00:50:03,621 who said you can't beat hate with hate. 851 00:50:03,655 --> 00:50:04,898 You can't, 852 00:50:04,932 --> 00:50:07,038 you know, beat darkness with darkness. 853 00:50:07,073 --> 00:50:08,350 It requires light. 854 00:50:08,384 --> 00:50:10,490 You see in the media, online, 855 00:50:10,524 --> 00:50:14,011 everything is all about, like, how can we get everyone 856 00:50:14,045 --> 00:50:16,737 as mad at each other as possible? 857 00:50:16,772 --> 00:50:18,256 I want to do this. 858 00:50:20,189 --> 00:50:24,573 The end goal is to try to connect us around clean air, 859 00:50:24,607 --> 00:50:27,334 clean water and a sustainable future. 860 00:50:29,198 --> 00:50:33,858 The path we're on is a path of destruction. 861 00:50:33,892 --> 00:50:36,378 It's unsustainable, 862 00:50:36,412 --> 00:50:41,107 you know, there's a real sense of urgency, and that's gonna take a lot of work, 863 00:50:41,141 --> 00:50:43,074 and that's what we're pushing for. 864 00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:47,596 The only way I'm looking my kids in the eye in 20 years is going, 865 00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:52,325 "I fought like hell, to try to get us on the right path." 866 00:50:56,053 --> 00:51:02,128 At the end of the day, we need climate champions leading our country. 867 00:51:02,162 --> 00:51:05,234 We don't need the whole country on board. 868 00:51:05,269 --> 00:51:08,996 We just need 51% in the right places. 869 00:51:09,031 --> 00:51:12,345 And if I can do that, one voter at a time, 870 00:51:12,379 --> 00:51:15,244 that's how it starts, just like climbing a mountain, 871 00:51:15,279 --> 00:51:18,523 one step at a time, one voter at a time.