1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:14,125 --> 00:00:17,250 (kid chatter) 4 00:00:24,417 --> 00:00:26,625 ("If I Ever Was A Child" by Wilco playing) 5 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:35,417 ♪ I've never been alone ♪ 6 00:00:37,291 --> 00:00:39,333 ♪ Long enough to know ♪ 7 00:00:40,792 --> 00:00:43,333 ♪ If I ever was a child ♪ 8 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:49,625 ♪ I was tied up like a boat ♪ 9 00:00:51,625 --> 00:00:53,667 ♪ On a button like a coat ♪ 10 00:00:55,125 --> 00:00:57,166 ♪ Set free for the wild ♪ 11 00:00:59,667 --> 00:01:01,709 ♪ I'd jump ♪ 12 00:01:01,792 --> 00:01:04,500 ♪ To jolt my clumsy blood ♪ 13 00:01:09,792 --> 00:01:12,542 ♪ So, I... ♪ 14 00:01:12,625 --> 00:01:14,667 ♪ Won't ever wanna touch ♪ 15 00:01:16,166 --> 00:01:19,166 ♪ Your heart too much ♪ 16 00:01:19,709 --> 00:01:21,792 ♪ Or hold you too tight ♪ 17 00:01:24,041 --> 00:01:25,625 ♪ I saw ♪ 18 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,000 ♪ Behind my brain ♪ 19 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:32,542 ♪ A haunted stain ♪ 20 00:01:34,166 --> 00:01:36,166 ♪ Will never fade ♪ 21 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:40,333 ♪ I hunt ♪ 22 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,542 ♪ For the kind of pain ♪ 23 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,041 ♪ I can take ♪ 24 00:01:49,542 --> 00:01:52,125 ♪ I... ♪ 25 00:01:52,208 --> 00:01:54,291 ♪ Never was alone ♪ 26 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:57,542 ♪ Long enough to know ♪ 27 00:01:59,166 --> 00:02:01,208 ♪ If I ever was a child ♪ 28 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:09,375 ♪ ♪ 29 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,041 Diana Serra Cary: Well, it was just one of those things. 30 00:02:18,417 --> 00:02:20,250 I didn't know what a regular kid was 31 00:02:20,333 --> 00:02:22,375 because I didn't have any friends. 32 00:02:26,041 --> 00:02:27,959 There were certain limitations. 33 00:02:28,041 --> 00:02:30,625 I didn't know there was another world out there for children. 34 00:02:30,709 --> 00:02:34,083 (children chattering) 35 00:02:36,458 --> 00:02:40,542 And the life of a child was not my life. 36 00:02:40,625 --> 00:02:42,709 ♪ ♪ 37 00:02:45,792 --> 00:02:47,834 As of 1920, 38 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:50,083 I started to work. 39 00:02:51,083 --> 00:02:54,417 I was born in 1918, so I went to work at two. 40 00:02:56,917 --> 00:02:59,917 I didn't realize it was so special. 41 00:03:01,125 --> 00:03:05,000 I thought every parent had worked as a child 42 00:03:05,083 --> 00:03:06,375 for their parents. 43 00:03:07,417 --> 00:03:09,250 I had put that together. 44 00:03:10,417 --> 00:03:13,208 It was a piece of cake as far as a director was concerned. 45 00:03:13,291 --> 00:03:15,125 Anything they told me to do, I did, 46 00:03:15,208 --> 00:03:17,083 you know, without any fuss. 47 00:03:17,417 --> 00:03:20,750 (upbeat music playing) 48 00:03:22,959 --> 00:03:26,291 My three big feature films were very successful. 49 00:03:28,125 --> 00:03:30,959 So I went on with my career for quite a while. 50 00:03:37,959 --> 00:03:40,667 We had employees, we had a chauffeur, 51 00:03:40,750 --> 00:03:43,417 and we had maids, and we had a cook, 52 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:46,375 and this was because we couldn't function 53 00:03:46,458 --> 00:03:47,875 as a star 54 00:03:47,959 --> 00:03:50,125 without those accoutrements, you know? 55 00:03:51,458 --> 00:03:54,458 They even had a doll made for me. 56 00:03:55,667 --> 00:03:59,750 They featured me as the million-dollar child star. 57 00:03:59,834 --> 00:04:02,458 Every film was gonna be a million dollars. 58 00:04:04,333 --> 00:04:05,875 But my father discovered 59 00:04:05,959 --> 00:04:10,041 that he would not be cut into the profits, 60 00:04:10,125 --> 00:04:12,250 so my father got furious. 61 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:15,000 So, he quit. He broke the contract. 62 00:04:15,667 --> 00:04:18,917 And my career was over at seven. 63 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,333 (upbeat music ends) 64 00:04:24,667 --> 00:04:27,667 (birds chirping) 65 00:04:29,709 --> 00:04:31,583 -(beep) -Marc: Hi. My name is Marc Slater, 66 00:04:31,667 --> 00:04:34,667 and I'm reading for the role of Proud Peacock. 67 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,875 (creepy voice): Born to a family of former heroes 68 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:42,125 in the veil of the great spirit... 69 00:04:42,208 --> 00:04:45,250 Melanie: With the kids, I feel like the rings around Saturn. 70 00:04:45,333 --> 00:04:47,166 I feel like he and I, at this point, 71 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:48,959 we're on this outer ring. 72 00:04:49,041 --> 00:04:52,458 Your physical appearance and your parents. 73 00:04:52,542 --> 00:04:54,000 (quiet laughter) 74 00:04:54,083 --> 00:04:55,750 -(beep) -Good. 75 00:04:55,834 --> 00:04:57,792 I know they say for every 100 auditions, 76 00:04:57,875 --> 00:04:59,000 you're gonna get one. 77 00:04:59,083 --> 00:05:01,625 Okay, so if we're on the outer ring of Saturn, 78 00:05:01,709 --> 00:05:04,000 how long is it before we get to the second ring closer 79 00:05:04,083 --> 00:05:05,458 with the callback ring? 80 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:08,125 Okay, this is the callback ring of kids 81 00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:11,583 that have done this or that-- 82 00:05:11,667 --> 00:05:14,125 So, it goes-- So, lemme get this straight. 83 00:05:14,208 --> 00:05:17,500 It goes-- it goes audition... 84 00:05:18,542 --> 00:05:21,083 callback, booked, 85 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:24,333 -and the planet is the job. Got it. -Right. (laughs) 86 00:05:24,417 --> 00:05:27,417 ♪ ♪ 87 00:05:28,417 --> 00:05:29,875 Melanie: We came out from Florida. 88 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:31,166 This is our second year, 89 00:05:31,250 --> 00:05:33,333 and Marc had expressed interest 90 00:05:33,417 --> 00:05:35,583 that he wanted to be an actor. 91 00:05:39,417 --> 00:05:43,000 You know, he watched movies ad he was always trying to portry 92 00:05:43,083 --> 00:05:44,458 that character in the movie. 93 00:05:44,542 --> 00:05:46,333 And so, when he portrayed that, 94 00:05:46,417 --> 00:05:48,500 he would do really good imitating. 95 00:05:48,583 --> 00:05:50,792 The imitation was... 96 00:05:50,875 --> 00:05:52,917 amazing, so... 97 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:58,125 You have the-- the stage moms, 98 00:05:58,208 --> 00:06:02,166 you know, and I don't ever wanna be one of those, 99 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:04,208 because you see them, 100 00:06:04,291 --> 00:06:07,542 and they have told me that I was a bad mother 101 00:06:07,625 --> 00:06:09,500 because I let him go to karate. 102 00:06:09,583 --> 00:06:11,125 -Ah! -I let him spar. 103 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,375 Okay, they said, "This is the moneymaker." 104 00:06:14,458 --> 00:06:17,041 -"Moneymaker! Moneymaker!" -Don't let-- (laughs) 105 00:06:17,125 --> 00:06:20,667 Well, I mean-- and I, you know, I'm horrified. 106 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:23,792 (stirring music playing) 107 00:06:24,166 --> 00:06:25,709 (high-pitched tone) 108 00:06:25,792 --> 00:06:28,583 I'll... be... 109 00:06:28,667 --> 00:06:31,542 right... here. 110 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:34,208 Henry Thomas: Acting scared the hell out of me. Like, I-- 111 00:06:34,291 --> 00:06:36,166 I pissed my pants first time I was on stage. 112 00:06:36,250 --> 00:06:38,083 Like, just outright. (whoosh) 113 00:06:38,166 --> 00:06:41,041 And then, as I was sitting in the wings, 114 00:06:41,125 --> 00:06:43,333 waiting for my pants to dry, I thought... 115 00:06:45,333 --> 00:06:47,959 "It's not so bad. I don't think I'll do that again." (laughs) 116 00:06:48,041 --> 00:06:50,709 (acoustic guitar playing) 117 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:54,083 I grew up in south Texas, 118 00:06:54,166 --> 00:06:57,250 sort of in a rural community. 119 00:06:57,333 --> 00:06:59,458 Being an actor wasn't really on the radar. 120 00:06:59,542 --> 00:07:01,083 Like, there weren't a lot of guys 121 00:07:01,166 --> 00:07:04,041 going off to Hollywood, like, in my neighborhood. 122 00:07:04,125 --> 00:07:07,667 The only kind of show business was, like, rodeo show business. 123 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,959 My piano teacher was 124 00:07:10,041 --> 00:07:12,542 the musical director for the local theater. 125 00:07:12,625 --> 00:07:15,417 She got me involved in acting, 126 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:16,875 and I thought it was great 127 00:07:16,959 --> 00:07:20,208 because it took me out of piano lessons. 128 00:07:20,959 --> 00:07:23,083 I thought, like, I could do this. 129 00:07:23,166 --> 00:07:24,750 I could do this acting thing. 130 00:07:24,834 --> 00:07:28,625 Mama, did our daddy love us? 131 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:31,000 Henry: I mean, I was-- I was acting 132 00:07:31,083 --> 00:07:33,291 and I was reading lines and doing all of that, 133 00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:37,041 but I still didn't really have an idea of what I was doing. 134 00:07:37,333 --> 00:07:40,291 And nothing about the film industry. 135 00:07:40,375 --> 00:07:42,750 We didn't know what was fair or what was right, 136 00:07:42,834 --> 00:07:45,917 and you hear all sorts of horror stories, of course. 137 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,792 Hollywood tales, right? 138 00:07:47,875 --> 00:07:50,750 Breaking news from Los Angeles where '80s teen heartthrob 139 00:07:50,834 --> 00:07:53,792 Corey Haim has died from an apparent overdose. 140 00:07:53,875 --> 00:07:55,959 -(siren, paparazzi chatter) -Reporter 1: Troubled pop singer 141 00:07:56,041 --> 00:07:58,166 Britney Spears has been carried out of her home 142 00:07:58,250 --> 00:08:00,250 on a stretcher and taken to hospital. 143 00:08:01,542 --> 00:08:03,291 Reporter 2: Shia LaBeouf taken out of a Broadway theater 144 00:08:03,375 --> 00:08:05,750 in handcuffs after an outburst. 145 00:08:05,834 --> 00:08:08,583 Lindsay Lohan spent her first night in jail Tuesday on charges 146 00:08:08,667 --> 00:08:12,333 of parole violation relating to a 2007 DUI conviction. 147 00:08:12,417 --> 00:08:14,417 Judge: That's 90 days in jail. 148 00:08:15,375 --> 00:08:17,208 The court's also going to order... 149 00:08:17,583 --> 00:08:19,458 My parents knew nothing about the business. 150 00:08:19,542 --> 00:08:20,792 Not even a little bit, um, 151 00:08:20,875 --> 00:08:22,166 it kind of scared them, I think. 152 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:23,667 It was kind of, you know, 153 00:08:23,750 --> 00:08:24,959 'cause you hear all these horror stories. 154 00:08:25,041 --> 00:08:26,709 Hey. I'm Cameron Boyce from "Jessie," 155 00:08:26,792 --> 00:08:28,458 and you're watching Disney Channel. 156 00:08:28,792 --> 00:08:29,959 (stretch, pop) 157 00:08:31,750 --> 00:08:33,291 Cameron: I was actually gonna ask if I could cuss 158 00:08:33,375 --> 00:08:35,041 in this thing 'cause I was like... 159 00:08:35,125 --> 00:08:36,875 -I don't know. But like, for a Disney kid-- -Man: Yeah, of course-- 160 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:39,667 No, I know. It's HBO. No, I know. Fuck, right? Yeah, yeah. 161 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:42,500 But, like, from a Disney kid, 162 00:08:42,583 --> 00:08:44,000 I'm thinking about that, right? 163 00:08:44,083 --> 00:08:45,667 I'm like, Oh, should I... should-- you know? 164 00:08:45,750 --> 00:08:47,875 Didn't anyone ever teach you to knock? 165 00:08:48,750 --> 00:08:50,792 I did knock. You did not hear it. 166 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,375 After this, knock harder. 167 00:08:54,458 --> 00:08:57,333 I hated it, to be honest. I hated working. 168 00:08:57,959 --> 00:09:00,208 I hated going on set. 169 00:09:00,291 --> 00:09:03,208 -(children chattering) -(rattling) 170 00:09:03,291 --> 00:09:04,875 You know, I was-- I was 11 years old. 171 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:07,750 I was really a little girl that wanted to play with dolls. 172 00:09:07,834 --> 00:09:10,041 Well, I always wanted to be in show business since I was kid. 173 00:09:10,125 --> 00:09:11,750 I used to watch "Sanford and Son," 174 00:09:11,834 --> 00:09:14,166 and I liked television and I wanted to be on television. 175 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:15,542 I told my mom from the very beginning 176 00:09:15,625 --> 00:09:17,250 that I was gonna be an actor on television. 177 00:09:17,333 --> 00:09:19,917 ♪ But they got, Diff'rent Strokes ♪ 178 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,917 ♪ It takes Diff'rent Strokes, 179 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,208 ♪ It takes Diff'rent Strokes to move the world ♪ 180 00:09:25,291 --> 00:09:27,709 I did the first Parkay Margarine commercial 181 00:09:27,792 --> 00:09:29,208 that was ever made where it goes "butter." 182 00:09:29,291 --> 00:09:31,542 -Parkay: Butter. -(laughs) 183 00:09:31,625 --> 00:09:33,542 -Tastes good. -You are butter. 184 00:09:33,625 --> 00:09:34,917 (giggling) 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,041 -Parkay: Parkay. -(laughs) 186 00:09:37,125 --> 00:09:39,750 -Did you say that? -No, it was the Parkay! 187 00:09:39,834 --> 00:09:41,750 The songs that I would make up, the stories that I would make up, 188 00:09:41,834 --> 00:09:43,291 and the performing that I would do, 189 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:45,709 people actually wanted to watch you perform. 190 00:09:45,792 --> 00:09:48,208 It wasn't you, you know, holding-- 191 00:09:48,291 --> 00:09:50,750 it wasn't you holding your family captive on holidays 192 00:09:50,834 --> 00:09:53,709 to-- to, you know, see the show that you made up about it. 193 00:09:53,792 --> 00:09:56,291 That was when I kinda put that together and I went to my mom 194 00:09:56,375 --> 00:09:59,333 and I told her that I wanted to act. 195 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:01,291 Teacher: And a-one 196 00:10:01,375 --> 00:10:03,458 and two and three and four, 197 00:10:03,542 --> 00:10:04,709 quietly. 198 00:10:04,792 --> 00:10:07,333 Five and six, seven and eight. 199 00:10:07,875 --> 00:10:11,250 One and two, three and four, 200 00:10:11,333 --> 00:10:14,125 five and six and seven and eight. 201 00:10:14,208 --> 00:10:16,542 Yeah, you're on the little toe on this foot. 202 00:10:17,542 --> 00:10:19,834 (whispers): Quietly. Other foot. 203 00:10:20,834 --> 00:10:22,625 Demi: I'm Demi. 204 00:10:22,709 --> 00:10:26,792 I'm originally from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, 205 00:10:26,875 --> 00:10:29,625 and I moved to New York when I was three years old. 206 00:10:29,709 --> 00:10:32,291 -(piano playing) -Good afternoon, Times Square. How is everybody? 207 00:10:32,375 --> 00:10:33,750 (cheering and applause) 208 00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:35,000 Tricia: Early on, I knew 209 00:10:35,083 --> 00:10:36,458 that she wanted to perform. 210 00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:39,959 ♪ I saw the cover and I judged the book ♪ 211 00:10:40,041 --> 00:10:42,959 ♪ I turned away without a second look ♪ 212 00:10:43,041 --> 00:10:45,959 Demi: Before I started acting, I wanted to be a pop star. 213 00:10:46,041 --> 00:10:47,333 I think before I started singing, 214 00:10:47,417 --> 00:10:49,291 I wanted to be a ballerina or a gymnast. 215 00:10:49,375 --> 00:10:50,792 (cheering) 216 00:10:50,875 --> 00:10:52,875 Interviewer: What was the first thing you booked? 217 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:55,917 -What was the first... -Well, the first big thing 218 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 -was "School of Rock." -The first big thing was "School of Rock." 219 00:10:58,083 --> 00:11:00,417 -Bring it in. -Children: Yeah! 220 00:11:00,625 --> 00:11:02,500 Demi: So, I was in it for 10 months, 221 00:11:02,583 --> 00:11:04,375 if you include the rehearsals and stuff. 222 00:11:04,458 --> 00:11:07,417 It was a lot of fun, and I made a lot of friends. 223 00:11:07,917 --> 00:11:10,667 ♪ Stick it to the man ♪ 224 00:11:10,750 --> 00:11:12,375 She left "School of Rock," and then, two days later, 225 00:11:12,458 --> 00:11:13,542 she booked "Lion King." 226 00:11:13,625 --> 00:11:15,375 (woman vocalizing) 227 00:11:15,458 --> 00:11:17,041 Interviewer: And how long were you in "Lion King"? 228 00:11:17,125 --> 00:11:18,792 -Six months. -Just six months. 229 00:11:18,875 --> 00:11:22,041 ♪ ♪ 230 00:11:22,125 --> 00:11:25,667 -And then she left to do the Epix show, so... -Yeah. 231 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:27,500 Man: I've been on the street for 30 years, 232 00:11:27,583 --> 00:11:28,792 and I'm still here. 233 00:11:29,875 --> 00:11:31,667 ♪ Just get it, just get it, just get it ♪ 234 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:34,625 So, she's been really busy for the past couple of years. 235 00:11:34,709 --> 00:11:36,291 Like, nonstop. 236 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:39,500 ♪ I thought I could get over, I tried to play safe ♪ 237 00:11:39,583 --> 00:11:42,917 ♪ But my mom said, "No, no way, uh-uh, forget it" ♪ 238 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,709 Jada Pinkett Smith: I was three years old when I started performing. 239 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:48,542 I would perform every, um, 240 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:50,709 holiday for my family. 241 00:11:50,792 --> 00:11:52,542 I would gather my cousins, and, 242 00:11:52,625 --> 00:11:54,500 you know, construct different plays 243 00:11:54,583 --> 00:11:57,375 and, oh, play something on the piano for Christmas. 244 00:11:57,458 --> 00:11:59,542 It was always some kind of holiday show. 245 00:11:59,625 --> 00:12:03,000 My grandmother made sure I was in dance class, 246 00:12:03,083 --> 00:12:05,709 tap dance, ballet, pottery, 247 00:12:05,792 --> 00:12:07,500 piano lessons, singing lessons. 248 00:12:07,583 --> 00:12:10,250 My Saturdays and my after school 249 00:12:10,333 --> 00:12:14,750 were full of learning different skill sets for the arts. 250 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:16,333 (imitates gunshot) 251 00:12:16,417 --> 00:12:19,375 Wil Wheaton: My mom wanted to be an actor, 252 00:12:19,458 --> 00:12:21,417 -and wanted to be a model. -(gunshot) 253 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:22,792 -And the way she tells it... -Both: Jesus! 254 00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:24,291 she didn't get a lot of support 255 00:12:24,375 --> 00:12:25,709 from my grandmother. 256 00:12:25,792 --> 00:12:29,041 And, in my opinion, 257 00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:31,458 she went maybe a little too far, 258 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:34,458 uh, encouraging me, um, uh, 259 00:12:34,542 --> 00:12:37,583 to go into the industry that she wanted to go into. 260 00:12:37,667 --> 00:12:39,792 'Cause it was never really my idea. 261 00:12:39,875 --> 00:12:41,417 I don't know a seven-year-old who's like, 262 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:43,041 "What I wanna do is go to work." 263 00:12:43,125 --> 00:12:44,709 You know somebody's a child star 264 00:12:44,792 --> 00:12:46,625 when they're really good at juggling, 265 00:12:46,709 --> 00:12:48,583 and Hacky Sacks 266 00:12:48,667 --> 00:12:50,875 and, like, the string game. 267 00:12:50,959 --> 00:12:52,917 Like, any kind of weird skill 268 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,291 that you had to master by yourself, I think I have. 269 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:58,583 And everyone's like, "Well, how do you know how to do all this weird stuff?" 270 00:12:58,667 --> 00:13:01,625 Because I spent a lot of time alone on set 271 00:13:01,709 --> 00:13:04,959 in a trailer, doing school in a trailer, 272 00:13:05,041 --> 00:13:07,250 -being alone in hotel rooms. -I'm gonna go home. 273 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:09,625 You know, you're very much isolated most of the time, 274 00:13:09,709 --> 00:13:13,083 and it's a very fulfilling but lonely experience. 275 00:13:13,166 --> 00:13:15,875 It's, like, it's a lot of time alone. 276 00:13:16,917 --> 00:13:20,000 (light, upbeat music playing) 277 00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:30,834 Todd: Usually, you audition for an agency and you get an agen. 278 00:13:30,917 --> 00:13:33,291 You take lessons, stuff like that. 279 00:13:33,375 --> 00:13:35,500 But in my case, my mom taught me, 280 00:13:35,583 --> 00:13:37,792 and she was an actress and an acting coach. She was both. 281 00:13:37,875 --> 00:13:40,792 And also a manager. She does everything, so... 282 00:13:40,875 --> 00:13:43,917 Don't you look wonderful, Willis? 283 00:13:44,041 --> 00:13:47,458 (laughs) But, why the sunglasses? 284 00:13:47,542 --> 00:13:49,750 So nobody recognizes me. 285 00:13:50,542 --> 00:13:52,458 ♪ ♪ 286 00:13:52,542 --> 00:13:54,166 Todd: I started out with a lot of commercials, 287 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,000 and then I slowly got a lot of different roles. 288 00:13:56,083 --> 00:13:58,625 Would you rather be black and live to be 100, 289 00:14:00,542 --> 00:14:02,500 or white and live to be 50? 290 00:14:02,583 --> 00:14:04,333 And you weren't really a child there. 291 00:14:04,417 --> 00:14:05,625 You were more of a mini-adult. 292 00:14:05,709 --> 00:14:07,458 You know, that's kinda how it was. 293 00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:10,959 And my mom was, you know, she was a real mom. 294 00:14:11,041 --> 00:14:12,959 You know, I got to do kids' stuff. 295 00:14:13,041 --> 00:14:14,834 You know, I got to play Little League baseball, 296 00:14:14,917 --> 00:14:16,625 got to play Pop Warner football. 297 00:14:16,709 --> 00:14:18,834 Even though I was working, I still got to do all that. 298 00:14:18,917 --> 00:14:21,500 It kind of-- I was able to be a regular child 299 00:14:21,583 --> 00:14:23,166 than most other actors were not able to do that, 300 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:24,542 but I was able to be a regular child. 301 00:14:24,625 --> 00:14:27,208 Most child actors don't get a chance to be regular children. 302 00:14:27,291 --> 00:14:29,166 I had that chance to be that. 303 00:14:30,333 --> 00:14:33,208 There was this sort of snobbery in our family 304 00:14:33,291 --> 00:14:36,333 about acting and about the right way to go about it 305 00:14:36,417 --> 00:14:39,000 and the right way to present yourself in that 306 00:14:39,083 --> 00:14:41,500 we weren't gonna be the cutesy, like, child stars. 307 00:14:41,583 --> 00:14:44,542 We were serious. You know, this was-- We were gonna do this right. 308 00:14:44,625 --> 00:14:46,208 It was about doing great work, 309 00:14:46,291 --> 00:14:48,208 working with great people, and like... 310 00:14:48,291 --> 00:14:49,542 We were kinda snobs. 311 00:14:49,625 --> 00:14:51,625 (laughs) 312 00:14:51,959 --> 00:14:55,000 ("The Shoop Shoop Song" by Betty Everett playing) 313 00:14:57,959 --> 00:15:00,834 Evan: I came from a family of artists. 314 00:15:00,917 --> 00:15:04,208 I grew up in Raleigh, North Carolina, 315 00:15:04,291 --> 00:15:07,709 and my father ran a regional theater. 316 00:15:07,792 --> 00:15:09,375 Still runs the theater there. 317 00:15:09,458 --> 00:15:12,291 My name is Cobweb. This is Mud. We're fairies! 318 00:15:12,375 --> 00:15:15,917 I'm not Mud! I'm Moss Ladybug! 319 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,750 Evan: It was just kind of normal. 320 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:19,792 It's just something that I did 321 00:15:19,875 --> 00:15:21,667 'cause everyone did it. 322 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:24,250 (singing along): ♪ Oh yes, it's in his kiss ♪ 323 00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:26,417 That's where it is! 324 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:28,291 -Having a party! -Oh! 325 00:15:28,375 --> 00:15:30,792 Look what you girls have been up to! 326 00:15:30,875 --> 00:15:32,959 Evan: There was a part of me 327 00:15:33,041 --> 00:15:35,083 that just really wanted to play, 328 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:37,709 and it was really apparent early on 329 00:15:37,792 --> 00:15:40,750 that you would get in trouble if you wanted to play. 330 00:15:40,834 --> 00:15:42,792 It would be very disappointing to people 331 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:44,625 if I didn't want to do this 332 00:15:44,709 --> 00:15:46,417 because I was talented. 333 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:48,458 I just, at a very young age, I guess, 334 00:15:48,542 --> 00:15:50,250 connected to something, 335 00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:53,875 and was able to communicate through this medium 336 00:15:54,208 --> 00:15:56,291 in a way that... 337 00:15:56,375 --> 00:15:58,458 if I didn't wanna pursue it, 338 00:15:58,542 --> 00:16:01,291 the vibe was "What a-- What a waste. 339 00:16:01,375 --> 00:16:04,291 "Like, what a waste. I can't believe you won't-- you won't do this. 340 00:16:04,375 --> 00:16:06,792 You won't pursue this. You're so good at it." 341 00:16:06,875 --> 00:16:10,417 And so I didn't feel like I could stop because I was good. 342 00:16:11,709 --> 00:16:13,792 So, I just did it. 343 00:16:13,875 --> 00:16:17,291 (acoustic guitar playing) 344 00:16:17,375 --> 00:16:20,208 (traffic noise) 345 00:16:23,375 --> 00:16:24,834 Melanie: If you get cast, 346 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:27,583 I think they're gonna let these chefs, 347 00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:29,250 they're gonna try to make your dish, 348 00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:32,208 and then you get to be the judge of what... 349 00:16:32,291 --> 00:16:35,166 -Today? -No, I don't think that's today. 350 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:38,667 -Oh, that's gonna be on the show if I get it. -Yeah. (laughs) 351 00:16:38,750 --> 00:16:40,667 Melanie: Jeff, my husband, sat down, 352 00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:43,500 we had a conversation, and I'm like, "Can we do this?" 353 00:16:43,583 --> 00:16:44,834 Last year, it was easier 354 00:16:44,917 --> 00:16:46,291 because he had a better job last year. 355 00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:47,667 He just changed companies. 356 00:16:47,750 --> 00:16:50,208 This year, we've had to go into savings. 357 00:16:50,291 --> 00:16:52,000 -I've got my drawings right here. -Alright. 358 00:16:52,083 --> 00:16:53,792 Jeff Slater: I think it'll be easier for us 359 00:16:53,875 --> 00:16:57,000 -if we make it than if we don't. -(laughs) 360 00:16:57,083 --> 00:17:00,125 You know, we're spending a lot of money, and we're working hard. 361 00:17:00,208 --> 00:17:03,417 We're both doing the equivalent of two jobs in some ways. 362 00:17:03,959 --> 00:17:06,667 Melanie: Good? Okay. 363 00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:09,291 -Wait, I wanna take a picture over here. -Marc: What a day. 364 00:17:12,250 --> 00:17:13,792 Melanie: Good. Okay. 365 00:17:14,625 --> 00:17:17,500 -So, how'd it go? -Great. 366 00:17:17,959 --> 00:17:22,000 Wil: I spent nearly every day after school 367 00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,875 driving into Hollywood 368 00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:27,959 for auditions and going to the agency and all that stuff. 369 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,208 I'm the oldest of three kids. 370 00:17:31,291 --> 00:17:35,125 I'm the only one who was put into show business. 371 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:38,041 I was a really successful commercial actor. 372 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:40,250 I was really good at taking direction. 373 00:17:40,333 --> 00:17:42,250 Narrator: ..."Return of the Jedi" collection. 374 00:17:42,333 --> 00:17:44,709 -Boy 1: How's business? -Boy 2: Not bad for a bounty hunter! 375 00:17:44,792 --> 00:17:47,000 Narrator: Chewbacca, Princess Leia, new AT and AT-ST driver 376 00:17:47,083 --> 00:17:48,875 action figures. Each sold separately. 377 00:17:48,959 --> 00:17:50,500 Wil: I had been cast in a commercial, 378 00:17:50,583 --> 00:17:52,875 and what they wanted me to do was, like, 379 00:17:52,959 --> 00:17:56,417 take a big bite of this brownie, and then sing the song. 380 00:17:56,500 --> 00:17:59,250 And-- so, I was doing what I was told to do, 381 00:17:59,333 --> 00:18:01,208 but there was brownie in my teeth. 382 00:18:01,291 --> 00:18:03,917 And this director kept yelling at me about it. 383 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,417 So, I was like eight or nine years old, right? 384 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:09,625 This guy's just yelling at me, and it's super abusive. 385 00:18:09,709 --> 00:18:12,583 But, I'm nine or eight or whatever. I don't know. 386 00:18:12,667 --> 00:18:14,917 I can't express that. I don't know how to do that. 387 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,417 What I ended up doing is getting through the day, 388 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:20,083 finishing the job, and then saying to my mom, 389 00:18:20,166 --> 00:18:23,333 "I don't wanna do commercials anymore. I wanna do movies." 390 00:18:23,834 --> 00:18:27,083 So, I stopped going on commercial auditions, 391 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:29,458 and I started going on 392 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:31,583 theatrical auditions. 393 00:18:31,667 --> 00:18:33,083 (chatter) 394 00:18:33,166 --> 00:18:34,959 I am Landon Olsen. 395 00:18:35,041 --> 00:18:37,166 Hi, my name is Natalie Parker. 396 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,125 -Kaylee Mullins. -Karsyn Cameron. 397 00:18:39,208 --> 00:18:40,291 Nigel Gonzalez. 398 00:18:40,375 --> 00:18:41,667 -Hi. -Hi. 399 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:43,750 -Hello. -Hello. My name is Tam. 400 00:18:43,834 --> 00:18:45,250 And I am eight years old. 401 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:47,291 -I'm four. -I'm 10 years old. 402 00:18:47,375 --> 00:18:50,959 My age range is six to eight. 403 00:18:51,041 --> 00:18:52,625 And reading the role of Alex. 404 00:18:52,709 --> 00:18:54,625 (sighs) What do you think you're doing? 405 00:18:54,709 --> 00:18:57,500 What do we look like, frickin' Charlie Brown? 406 00:18:57,583 --> 00:19:00,417 Juiciest, freshest tomatoes made in our bottle. 407 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,041 (background chatter) 408 00:19:05,834 --> 00:19:08,792 June and those kids have been harassing me at lunch 409 00:19:08,875 --> 00:19:09,959 every dang day, 410 00:19:10,041 --> 00:19:11,208 and I hit her. 411 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:14,917 That may be, but instigators will not be tolerated. 412 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,625 I'm suspending her for a week. 413 00:19:16,709 --> 00:19:18,583 You can't do that. I'll miss band. 414 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:21,500 Mara: My mom and my brothers, they set up this kind of, 415 00:19:21,583 --> 00:19:23,166 like, mock audition for me, 416 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:24,417 where they made me say certain lines, 417 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:26,542 and then told me at the end, "Okay, you were very good, 418 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:27,875 but you didn't get the part." 419 00:19:27,959 --> 00:19:31,041 And I said, "Well, that's okay. I can just go on another one." 420 00:19:31,125 --> 00:19:33,000 ♪ ♪ 421 00:19:33,083 --> 00:19:36,291 I was born and raised in Burbank, California. 422 00:19:36,792 --> 00:19:39,125 Growing up in Burbank, California, meant that 423 00:19:39,208 --> 00:19:41,875 you were going to see other kids going to auditions 424 00:19:41,959 --> 00:19:43,667 the same way you did. It was-- 425 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:46,834 It was just kind of like the way that other kids did youth soccer 426 00:19:46,917 --> 00:19:49,375 or-- or, you know, Girl Scouts or things like that. 427 00:19:49,458 --> 00:19:51,625 I was a Girl Scout and I went on auditions. 428 00:19:51,709 --> 00:19:53,083 That was what it was. 429 00:19:54,291 --> 00:19:56,500 It felt kind of normal, and I don't think my parents 430 00:19:56,583 --> 00:19:57,792 would've let me do it 431 00:19:57,875 --> 00:19:59,542 if they had ever though that 432 00:19:59,625 --> 00:20:01,709 I would be cast in movies. 433 00:20:01,792 --> 00:20:04,583 I think they would've wanted to keep it, you know, very small, 434 00:20:04,667 --> 00:20:07,709 sort of just, like, putting away money for college kind of. 435 00:20:07,792 --> 00:20:10,041 Have some fun with it, but nothing really that big. 436 00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:11,959 (hip-hop music playing) 437 00:20:12,792 --> 00:20:14,875 (crowd cheering) 438 00:20:14,959 --> 00:20:17,458 Cameron: So, I was a dancer originally. 439 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:21,208 At, you know, six years old, I was taking dance classes. 440 00:20:21,291 --> 00:20:23,041 ♪ That's life ♪ 441 00:20:23,125 --> 00:20:25,083 Cameron: We had, like, a little recital at the end of the year, 442 00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:28,709 and that recital was sort of the thing 443 00:20:28,792 --> 00:20:30,583 that lead my parents to go, 444 00:20:30,667 --> 00:20:32,208 "Oh, he might be able to do that. 445 00:20:32,291 --> 00:20:33,709 He seems like he's having fun." 446 00:20:33,792 --> 00:20:35,834 I was the only kid who seemed interested at all. 447 00:20:35,917 --> 00:20:38,333 Everyone else was picking their nose and, you know, digging in their butts. 448 00:20:38,417 --> 00:20:40,583 -(shutter snapping) -There were plenty of times 449 00:20:40,667 --> 00:20:42,750 where, you know, you'd go on 1,000 auditions, 450 00:20:42,834 --> 00:20:44,333 and you book none of them. 451 00:20:44,417 --> 00:20:47,917 And my dad is going, "Why am I pulling you out of school two hours early 452 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,041 just so you can go and fail at this audition?" 453 00:20:50,125 --> 00:20:51,583 -(plays trumpet) -Woman: I'm gonna have to take you. 454 00:20:51,667 --> 00:20:54,083 Cameron: Once I started booking things, it made a little more sense. 455 00:20:54,166 --> 00:20:56,750 Just sort of became a part of my life. 456 00:20:56,834 --> 00:20:59,000 A big, big, big part of my life for a long time. 457 00:20:59,834 --> 00:21:02,250 I was not following you, and no. 458 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:04,458 Dad would not let you keep a falcon. 459 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,375 I always say genius skips a generation 460 00:21:08,458 --> 00:21:10,250 'cause my daughter's this incredible actress, 461 00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:11,959 and my mother's this incredible actress, 462 00:21:12,041 --> 00:21:15,208 and I have to work so hard to, like, find it. 463 00:21:15,291 --> 00:21:16,917 ♪ ♪ 464 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,542 I grew up in California mostly. 465 00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:21,458 I was born in Russia. 466 00:21:21,542 --> 00:21:23,417 My father was a doctor, 467 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:26,125 and my mother was a movie star 468 00:21:26,208 --> 00:21:28,250 in the former Soviet Union. 469 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:31,458 My parents ended up finding a job 470 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:33,750 being a cook and a housekeeper 471 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,875 at this big mansion up off Mulholland. 472 00:21:37,083 --> 00:21:38,917 All these movie stars 473 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,041 and big directors were staying there all the time. 474 00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:44,750 My mom was pretty much expecting 475 00:21:44,834 --> 00:21:47,125 that she would walk into the room with food, 476 00:21:47,208 --> 00:21:49,583 and they'd be like, "Put the tray down! 477 00:21:49,667 --> 00:21:51,792 You should be sitting with us!" 478 00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:54,250 You know, and that didn't happen. 479 00:21:55,417 --> 00:21:58,458 My mom pretty early on 480 00:21:58,542 --> 00:22:00,792 realized that, in a sense, like, 481 00:22:00,875 --> 00:22:02,875 I was her ticket out. 482 00:22:04,583 --> 00:22:05,959 You know, being an actress, 483 00:22:06,041 --> 00:22:09,125 she kind of tried to teach me what she knew. 484 00:22:09,208 --> 00:22:12,208 ♪ ♪ 485 00:22:12,291 --> 00:22:15,333 I started going to dance class 486 00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:17,333 and taking guitar lessons and piano lessons 487 00:22:17,417 --> 00:22:18,792 and acting classes 488 00:22:18,875 --> 00:22:20,625 and tried to find me an agent 489 00:22:20,709 --> 00:22:22,625 really quickly, and, you know, 490 00:22:22,709 --> 00:22:25,250 started slowly going on auditions. 491 00:22:26,208 --> 00:22:27,333 But, you know, 492 00:22:27,417 --> 00:22:30,166 I just wasn't a good actress. 493 00:22:30,250 --> 00:22:33,375 You know, a lot of people just talk about how 494 00:22:33,458 --> 00:22:35,542 you know, just intimidating the business could be for them 495 00:22:35,625 --> 00:22:36,834 at a young age, 496 00:22:36,917 --> 00:22:38,834 and I just feel like I'm very grateful 497 00:22:38,917 --> 00:22:41,792 that I had the adversity that I had 498 00:22:41,875 --> 00:22:43,208 before I got to Hollywood 499 00:22:43,291 --> 00:22:45,208 because I was prepared 500 00:22:45,291 --> 00:22:46,875 for all the slick stuff 501 00:22:46,959 --> 00:22:49,375 people were trying to pull, you know. 502 00:22:49,458 --> 00:22:52,375 I've had so many people at a young age 503 00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:54,917 try to play me as if I were gullible. 504 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,667 I was just like, I'm not the one. 505 00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,250 I'd survived the streets of Baltimore, 506 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:00,709 so as far as I was concerned, 507 00:23:00,792 --> 00:23:02,208 this was kind of a Disneyland. 508 00:23:02,291 --> 00:23:05,333 (big band music playing) 509 00:23:06,834 --> 00:23:07,792 ♪ Tell me that you love me...♪ 510 00:23:07,875 --> 00:23:10,500 Diana: There was a belief in Hollywood 511 00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:12,500 that children were rubber. 512 00:23:12,583 --> 00:23:13,875 They were flexible. 513 00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:16,458 ♪ To hear, a little something... ♪ 514 00:23:16,667 --> 00:23:19,500 We were flexible, but not-- not willingly. 515 00:23:19,583 --> 00:23:22,333 ♪ Always will be true 'cause you know ♪ 516 00:23:22,417 --> 00:23:24,959 ♪ That I do, dear ♪ 517 00:23:25,792 --> 00:23:28,834 Diana: was hard work. I found that I was adaptable. 518 00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:31,542 I had the talent. 519 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:32,667 That was my genius. 520 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:35,417 People said, "She's a genius." You know, well. 521 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,542 The only genius was I stayed on my feet. 522 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,083 And my family kept eating, you know? 523 00:23:43,166 --> 00:23:45,083 ♪ ♪ 524 00:23:45,166 --> 00:23:47,750 ♪ Don't care what other people say ♪ 525 00:23:47,834 --> 00:23:50,375 ♪ It's you I think of every day ♪ 526 00:23:50,458 --> 00:23:52,208 ♪ Makes me smile when you're away ♪ 527 00:23:52,291 --> 00:23:54,917 ♪ From home... ♪ 528 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,417 Shirley Temple: You start at age three. 529 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:58,875 Seems very normal. I thought everybody worked. 530 00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:00,875 I didn't realize in the Depression 531 00:24:00,959 --> 00:24:02,625 that a lot of people weren't, 532 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:05,333 but I just felt it was a normal kind of thing. 533 00:24:09,166 --> 00:24:11,166 -(humming) -(laughing) 534 00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:13,458 Man: What's going on around here? 535 00:24:13,542 --> 00:24:15,125 -Oh... -Dean Martin: Kid, come here. 536 00:24:15,208 --> 00:24:17,166 Come on, I'll give you a free ride. You do it again. 537 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:19,083 Show this boy. Go ahead. 538 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:20,792 Christopher Walken: My mother was, uh, 539 00:24:20,875 --> 00:24:22,458 -was smitten with show business. -(bell rings) 540 00:24:22,542 --> 00:24:25,792 -Terrific, kid, that's terrific... -(laughter) 541 00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:28,667 In the '50s, after the war, television got started. 542 00:24:28,750 --> 00:24:32,333 They'd just bring kids in and stick them around like, you know, plants. 543 00:24:32,875 --> 00:24:36,250 Narrator: And now, back to "Kids Are People Too"! 544 00:24:37,333 --> 00:24:39,667 Host: It must be kinda weird for you to watch TV in the afternoon 545 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:41,458 where they're-- they're showing "Happy Days," 546 00:24:41,542 --> 00:24:43,959 and they're also still showing "The Andy Griffith Show." 547 00:24:44,041 --> 00:24:46,625 -In some spots, back to back. -(laughs) Really? 548 00:24:46,709 --> 00:24:49,500 -Who are you? -Opie. Opie Taylor. 549 00:24:49,583 --> 00:24:51,500 Host: Does it bring back those memories 550 00:24:51,583 --> 00:24:52,667 -of being that young? -Ron: Oh yeah. 551 00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:54,333 Tremendous memories because 552 00:24:54,417 --> 00:24:56,625 you know, the real fun of a situation like that 553 00:24:56,709 --> 00:24:58,166 are the relationships that you develop 554 00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:59,792 -with the people. -Host: Yeah. 555 00:24:59,875 --> 00:25:02,417 Ron: And the things that were going on in between. 556 00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:06,792 The first thing Drew Barrymore ever says to me is, 557 00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:08,834 "How many movies have you been in?" 558 00:25:08,917 --> 00:25:11,041 He's really real. 559 00:25:11,125 --> 00:25:14,208 Henry: And I say, "Uh, just one." 560 00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:17,208 She goes, "Oh, you poor thing. 561 00:25:17,291 --> 00:25:19,667 I've been in four." 562 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:21,875 -Interviewer: How old was she? -Six. 563 00:25:21,959 --> 00:25:23,750 (laughter) 564 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:26,375 Man: Now, young man, I understand 565 00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:28,500 that you have an alien somewhere in this house. 566 00:25:28,583 --> 00:25:29,959 Is that true? 567 00:25:31,917 --> 00:25:33,583 I really, I have all the authority to take him, 568 00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:36,458 and, I gotta tell ya, I'm gonna take him. 569 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:40,291 -You can't take him. -Man: Well... 570 00:25:41,959 --> 00:25:44,041 I'm afraid I have to, son. 571 00:25:44,125 --> 00:25:46,667 You can't take him away! He's mine! 572 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:48,250 Man: But it's not my choice. 573 00:25:48,333 --> 00:25:50,375 The President asked me to come here and get him. 574 00:25:50,458 --> 00:25:52,250 I don't care what the President says! 575 00:25:52,333 --> 00:25:54,000 He's my best friend, 576 00:25:54,083 --> 00:25:56,125 and you can't take him away! 577 00:25:57,917 --> 00:26:00,542 -Steven Spielberg: Okay, kid, you got the job. -(laughter) 578 00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:02,375 ("E.T." theme playing) 579 00:26:02,458 --> 00:26:04,500 Henry: "E.T." came along... 580 00:26:04,583 --> 00:26:06,500 E.T.: E.T.... 581 00:26:07,083 --> 00:26:09,750 home... phone. 582 00:26:10,583 --> 00:26:13,041 Henry: It was intimidating on set... 583 00:26:13,125 --> 00:26:15,041 ♪ ♪ 584 00:26:15,125 --> 00:26:17,000 because there were all these kids there. 585 00:26:18,041 --> 00:26:20,875 Suddenly, you're not, like, the kid coming in, hitting your mark, 586 00:26:20,959 --> 00:26:22,041 and saying your line. 587 00:26:22,125 --> 00:26:24,291 You're watching other kids do it, 588 00:26:24,375 --> 00:26:27,000 and you're watching how they work, and you say, "Oh... 589 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,875 Oh, why didn't I do it like that?" 590 00:26:30,959 --> 00:26:32,709 Or "Was that how I'm supposed to do it?" 591 00:26:33,041 --> 00:26:34,917 He gets a little tear in his eye. Just pretend there's a tear. 592 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,417 Then you'll wipe the tear away from E.T.'s face, 593 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:39,917 and we'll play it that way. Okay? 594 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,041 Real softly, gently. No rush. 595 00:26:43,458 --> 00:26:47,125 Henry: I felt like I had just robbed a bank or something, 596 00:26:49,166 --> 00:26:51,542 and I was gonna get caught. 597 00:26:51,625 --> 00:26:54,083 When I was, I think 10, 598 00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:56,333 I was cast in a film called "The Buddy System" 599 00:26:56,417 --> 00:26:58,041 that was a pretty big studio picture. 600 00:26:59,041 --> 00:27:00,625 Narrator: Emily was a struggling mother, 601 00:27:00,709 --> 00:27:03,417 raising a kid who already knew too much. 602 00:27:03,875 --> 00:27:06,291 Wil: Roger Ebert hated it, and hated me. 603 00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:08,625 Um, which I took super personally 604 00:27:08,709 --> 00:27:10,041 'cause I didn't know how not to. 605 00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:12,125 Gene Siskel: As soon as you hear the little kid's first few 606 00:27:12,208 --> 00:27:14,291 obscenity-filled wisecracks when he walks in, you think, 607 00:27:14,375 --> 00:27:16,291 "Let me out of this theater." 608 00:27:16,375 --> 00:27:18,458 Gene, I think I liked it even less than you did. 609 00:27:18,542 --> 00:27:19,917 -No, you didn't. -(laughs) 610 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,125 Wil: A thing that I think people forget, 611 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:25,000 at least in my experience people forget, 612 00:27:25,083 --> 00:27:26,959 you're not just talking about an actor. 613 00:27:27,041 --> 00:27:28,583 You're talking about a child. 614 00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:32,625 You're talking about a kid who is giving up their childhood 615 00:27:32,709 --> 00:27:34,834 to be in this thing that you're reviewing. 616 00:27:34,917 --> 00:27:36,291 No individual could be this stupid. 617 00:27:36,375 --> 00:27:37,375 This is a very bad film. 618 00:27:37,458 --> 00:27:39,834 Think that just about covers "The Buddy System." 619 00:27:39,917 --> 00:27:41,792 -Our next movie is... -Wil: But, 620 00:27:41,875 --> 00:27:43,667 the next thing after that was "Stand By Me," 621 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:45,333 and that kinda changed everything. 622 00:27:45,417 --> 00:27:48,625 ("Stand By Me" by Ben E. King playing) 623 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:52,375 ♪ When the night has come... ♪ 624 00:27:52,458 --> 00:27:55,125 Wil: When I was cast, 625 00:27:55,208 --> 00:27:58,542 and all of us met for the very first time, 626 00:27:58,917 --> 00:28:02,375 Rob brought us up to Oregon two weeks before production 627 00:28:02,458 --> 00:28:04,000 and put us in a little drama school. 628 00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:06,500 (indistinct chatter) 629 00:28:06,583 --> 00:28:10,333 And took the four of us through some technique. 630 00:28:10,417 --> 00:28:12,959 What we were learning to do was get out of our own way, 631 00:28:13,041 --> 00:28:16,458 stop thinking about things, and just be kids. 632 00:28:16,542 --> 00:28:18,667 -Sleeper hold! Sleeper hold! -Stop it! I'm serious! 633 00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:21,875 No one gets out of a sleeper hold! (laughs) 634 00:28:21,959 --> 00:28:23,500 Wil: And one of the reasons 635 00:28:23,583 --> 00:28:25,375 "Stand By Me" is such a successful film 636 00:28:25,458 --> 00:28:27,875 and one of the reasons it connects with people 637 00:28:27,959 --> 00:28:29,834 so honestly 638 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:32,041 is that Rob cast four kids 639 00:28:32,125 --> 00:28:33,709 who very much were 640 00:28:33,792 --> 00:28:35,250 the kids we played. 641 00:28:35,333 --> 00:28:37,750 (birds chirping) 642 00:28:37,834 --> 00:28:40,375 Chris Columbus: The thing about Mara Wilson is she was completely new. 643 00:28:40,458 --> 00:28:41,875 She had not done any theater. 644 00:28:41,959 --> 00:28:43,000 She had not done any film work. 645 00:28:43,083 --> 00:28:44,417 She'd done a couple of commercials. 646 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:46,041 She was like taking a real person 647 00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:47,875 and putting her in front of a camera. 648 00:28:47,959 --> 00:28:49,333 Daddy! 649 00:28:50,750 --> 00:28:54,041 Mara: I got called for an open call for "Mrs. Doubtfire." 650 00:28:54,125 --> 00:28:56,041 -Your name is Mara. -Mm-hmm. 651 00:28:56,125 --> 00:28:59,041 -What a beautiful name. Do you know what my name is? -What? 652 00:28:59,125 --> 00:29:01,375 Euphegenia. 653 00:29:01,458 --> 00:29:02,917 -Do you know what that means? -What? 654 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,917 -I don't. (laughs) -(giggles) 655 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,542 Everything kind of, you know, snowballed from there, I guess. 656 00:29:07,625 --> 00:29:10,291 I got cast in that, and then I got cast on "Melrose Place," 657 00:29:10,375 --> 00:29:12,875 and then I got cast in "Miracle On 34th Street." 658 00:29:12,959 --> 00:29:14,625 That's a good one. 659 00:29:14,709 --> 00:29:16,375 Mara: And eventually "Matilda." 660 00:29:16,458 --> 00:29:18,917 ♪ Tell you a story ♪ 661 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,458 ♪ Happened a long time ago ♪ 662 00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:22,250 Mara: It all happened very, very quickly. 663 00:29:22,333 --> 00:29:25,625 This happened from, like, five to seven, this all happened, 664 00:29:25,709 --> 00:29:29,083 and I kinda didn't know how I felt about it all, 665 00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:30,542 but I was having fun, 666 00:29:30,625 --> 00:29:32,083 so I wanted to keep going. 667 00:29:32,166 --> 00:29:35,417 Don't be phony. Be truthful. 668 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:39,542 Be real. Don't be like, "Ah!" Be real. 669 00:29:39,625 --> 00:29:41,417 Act like this is real life. 670 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:43,625 Mara: As funny as it is, I could act, 671 00:29:43,709 --> 00:29:45,125 but I couldn't lie. 672 00:29:45,208 --> 00:29:47,750 There was this separation of 673 00:29:47,834 --> 00:29:50,291 this is what play is, this is what lying is, 674 00:29:50,375 --> 00:29:53,417 and this is what acting is. 675 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,458 ("Jessie" theme song playing) 676 00:29:56,542 --> 00:29:58,875 ♪ Hey, Jessie! Hey, Jessie! ♪ 677 00:29:59,208 --> 00:30:01,792 Cameron: I booked "Jessie" when I was 11. 678 00:30:01,875 --> 00:30:04,000 -Who wants a brownie treat? -Ooh! I do! Luke does! 679 00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:05,166 (laughter) 680 00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:06,959 Cameron: Four years, 681 00:30:07,041 --> 00:30:09,125 we did a hundred-and-something episodes of the show. 682 00:30:09,208 --> 00:30:10,792 You guys are gonna see 683 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:12,500 your favorite cast members from "Jessie"! 684 00:30:12,583 --> 00:30:15,583 (cheering, applause) 685 00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:18,041 (fans screaming) 686 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:20,750 Cameron: Being on set when I was a kid 687 00:30:20,834 --> 00:30:22,625 because that's sort of naturally who I am, 688 00:30:22,709 --> 00:30:24,291 I wasn't one of those kids who was, like, 689 00:30:24,375 --> 00:30:26,041 you know, causing trouble for anybody. 690 00:30:26,125 --> 00:30:28,333 I wanted to do it right, and I wanted to do it well, 691 00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:29,959 and I wanted people to be impressed with me. 692 00:30:30,041 --> 00:30:32,667 -Director: Action! -Hey, give it back! 693 00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:35,291 -(grunting) -Director: And hit! 694 00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:38,166 -Or keep her. -Cameron: No one was scared of me. 695 00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:39,834 That's the key, right? 696 00:30:39,917 --> 00:30:42,709 If a child actor comes on the set and they're 13 years old, 697 00:30:42,792 --> 00:30:44,166 and the crew's scared of them? 698 00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:46,166 And they're like, "Oh, that's the star of the..." 699 00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:47,667 No, fuck that shit. 700 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:49,709 These people were like, "Listen. 701 00:30:49,792 --> 00:30:51,834 "Don't do that. Do do that. 702 00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:55,667 "Respect these people and ask questions and be nice, 703 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:57,333 and that's what you do." 704 00:30:57,417 --> 00:30:59,375 And because of that, I think 705 00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:01,333 I was so much better off. 706 00:31:01,417 --> 00:31:02,834 So, I was just sort of lucky to be 707 00:31:02,917 --> 00:31:05,000 in that little bubble of, like, you know, 708 00:31:05,083 --> 00:31:07,583 "Everything's good, everything's fine." 709 00:31:07,667 --> 00:31:10,750 But, yeah, a lot of other people didn't have that luxury. 710 00:31:12,625 --> 00:31:15,375 -Did you learn your lines? -Oh yeah. 711 00:31:15,458 --> 00:31:17,542 Did you know what action 712 00:31:17,625 --> 00:31:20,041 or how emotionally you're supposed to feel when you give those lines? 713 00:31:20,125 --> 00:31:21,667 Well... 714 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:24,458 -Well, no. Good. -She's gonna work with you on that, so. 715 00:31:28,959 --> 00:31:31,000 -Hi, how are you? -Hi. Good. 716 00:31:31,083 --> 00:31:33,375 Hi, sweetheart. Come on in. 717 00:31:33,458 --> 00:31:35,500 -Hi. I'm Marnie. -Hi. 718 00:31:35,583 --> 00:31:38,875 -Nice to meet you. Come on in. -Nice to meet you. Thank you. 719 00:31:38,959 --> 00:31:40,917 -So, if you wouldn't mind coming back in an hour. -Okay! 720 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000 -That would be great. Thank you. -Sure. Thank you. 721 00:31:43,667 --> 00:31:47,083 "Anything everywhere. I just, I don't know. 722 00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,583 Maybe I don't belong here." 723 00:31:49,667 --> 00:31:51,709 Okay. Let's stop for a second 724 00:31:51,792 --> 00:31:54,458 because I'm hearing the words too much. 725 00:31:54,542 --> 00:31:56,250 Do you know what I mean by that? 726 00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:59,250 -No... -Like, I can hear the writer's words, 727 00:31:59,333 --> 00:32:01,083 and I don't wanna be able to hear the writer's words. 728 00:32:01,166 --> 00:32:03,375 I wanna be able to hear you. 729 00:32:03,458 --> 00:32:05,250 (yawning) Okay. 730 00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:06,959 Do you like doing this stuff? 731 00:32:07,041 --> 00:32:08,583 -Mm-hmm. -Do you? 732 00:32:08,667 --> 00:32:11,000 -Mm-hmm. -Then why are you yawning so much? 733 00:32:11,959 --> 00:32:14,875 -(squawks) -Did you not sleep very well last night? 734 00:32:14,959 --> 00:32:16,750 -Not really. -No? 735 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:19,125 -Is this interesting to you? -Mm. 736 00:32:19,208 --> 00:32:21,250 Sort of, or are you... 737 00:32:21,333 --> 00:32:23,750 -Mm... -Okay. Well, that's honest. 738 00:32:23,834 --> 00:32:25,792 I like your honesty. 739 00:32:25,875 --> 00:32:28,208 We're gonna explore this, okay? 740 00:32:28,291 --> 00:32:30,959 But if you don't fall in love with acting, 741 00:32:31,041 --> 00:32:33,458 then you need to 742 00:32:33,542 --> 00:32:36,625 talk to Mom and say, "This is not my cup of tea. 743 00:32:36,709 --> 00:32:39,208 This is not something I love doing." 744 00:32:39,709 --> 00:32:42,291 Melanie: You know, I've offered plenty of times, 745 00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:45,250 "Do you wanna stop? We'll be done. Let's--" 746 00:32:45,333 --> 00:32:48,834 "No, no, no!" And then, it's like, I mean, he... 747 00:32:49,417 --> 00:32:52,500 is passionate about what he does. 748 00:32:52,583 --> 00:32:54,458 I've given him the choice. 749 00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:56,458 I always am clear with him, 750 00:32:56,542 --> 00:32:59,083 if anything, he didn't like anything, 751 00:32:59,166 --> 00:33:01,667 or there was something he would be upset about, 752 00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:04,959 he always has the choice to stop. 753 00:33:05,041 --> 00:33:06,792 Marnie: You're a kid. 754 00:33:06,875 --> 00:33:09,583 You don't have to work, right? 755 00:33:09,667 --> 00:33:11,250 Do you have to pay your mortgage? 756 00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:13,000 Do you have to pay your rent? 757 00:33:13,083 --> 00:33:14,709 No. That's a good thing. 758 00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:16,166 You get to be a kid. 759 00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:18,458 -I have to pay my taxes... -That's right! 760 00:33:18,542 --> 00:33:20,667 -And understand taxes... -That's right! All this stuff 761 00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:24,166 you have to do when you're older that you don't have to do now. 762 00:33:24,250 --> 00:33:26,166 How cool is that? 763 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:29,625 -Yeah! -If you want to do this, 764 00:33:29,709 --> 00:33:32,750 then we have to put in a lot of the work. 765 00:33:33,583 --> 00:33:36,000 Drama-- drama may be not... 766 00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:38,125 it may be not my thing. Comedy is my thing, 767 00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:40,333 but I'll still have to try. 768 00:33:40,417 --> 00:33:42,500 Try and try. You'll make it. 769 00:33:42,583 --> 00:33:44,083 Melanie: Try and try. 770 00:33:45,208 --> 00:33:47,125 -Okay. -Mm. 771 00:33:47,208 --> 00:33:50,041 As long as you're happy, I'm happy. Whatever... 772 00:33:54,291 --> 00:33:56,208 You good? Okay. 773 00:33:56,291 --> 00:33:58,709 ♪ ♪ 774 00:33:58,792 --> 00:34:01,166 Mara: Sometimes, I'll feel like there were kind of gaps in my childhood. 775 00:34:01,250 --> 00:34:03,667 Like, I never really learned how to ride a bike. 776 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,709 Or I remember going back to school and being like, 777 00:34:05,792 --> 00:34:07,583 "What is this kickball game that everybody's playing? 778 00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:09,041 I don't understand it." 779 00:34:09,125 --> 00:34:11,250 I didn't really do well in school 780 00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:15,208 because I wasn't used to setting my own schedule 781 00:34:15,291 --> 00:34:17,500 because you don't have to develop a work ethic 782 00:34:17,583 --> 00:34:20,417 when everybody around you is telling you what to do 783 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:21,750 at what time all the time. 784 00:34:21,834 --> 00:34:24,208 When you have people escorting you to hair and makeup 785 00:34:24,291 --> 00:34:26,166 and to, you know, to the set back and forth, 786 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:27,709 telling you they're ready for you... 787 00:34:27,792 --> 00:34:29,375 Right this way, please. 788 00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:32,834 -Mara: Yeah, you see here we go this way. -Man: To the set. 789 00:34:32,917 --> 00:34:35,208 It's gonna be hard for you to set your own schedule 790 00:34:35,291 --> 00:34:37,709 to do your homework and to be doing these things. 791 00:34:38,166 --> 00:34:40,250 Kinda miss only having a four-hour work day. 792 00:34:40,333 --> 00:34:42,917 You go to school for four hours a day, 793 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,458 and then you work for the other four. 794 00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:47,583 So, we kinda miss that. (laughs) 795 00:34:47,667 --> 00:34:50,625 Interviewer: How do the kids in school treat you, Henry? 796 00:34:50,709 --> 00:34:52,709 They-- most of them treat me alright. 797 00:34:52,792 --> 00:34:54,834 They treat me normal, um. 798 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:57,250 But some, you know, they-- 799 00:34:57,333 --> 00:35:00,250 they tease me about "E.T.," 800 00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:03,375 -and, you know, some other movies. -Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 801 00:35:03,458 --> 00:35:05,542 Henry: The school thing was the biggest... 802 00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:08,750 the biggest mix-up for me, 803 00:35:08,834 --> 00:35:11,083 and that was the hardest thing about 804 00:35:11,166 --> 00:35:12,542 working as a kid. 805 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:16,250 I mean, they called me Hollywood or E.T., you know, 806 00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:19,792 but I had been designated as being that guy, 807 00:35:19,875 --> 00:35:22,083 so I was always gonna be that guy. 808 00:35:22,166 --> 00:35:24,125 I just didn't realize it at 13. 809 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:26,625 I thought I could not be that guy anymore, and-- 810 00:35:26,709 --> 00:35:30,291 but just have friends and go to school 811 00:35:30,375 --> 00:35:32,166 and do normal things. 812 00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:34,917 (playing piano) 813 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,417 Cameron: I had to finish my sixth grade year on set. 814 00:35:38,667 --> 00:35:40,125 And seventh grade was the first year 815 00:35:40,208 --> 00:35:42,041 that I went into homeschooling. 816 00:35:43,166 --> 00:35:46,125 And so that was sort of the beginning of 817 00:35:46,208 --> 00:35:48,333 instead of 35 kids in my class, 818 00:35:48,417 --> 00:35:49,959 I have three. 819 00:35:50,041 --> 00:35:52,417 And they're all different ages than me. (laughs) 820 00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,875 Like, it's just not, like... 821 00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:58,083 it's just not a normal experience. 822 00:36:04,083 --> 00:36:07,166 Tricia: When Demi first started, I made it a point 823 00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:09,125 that she had to go to school 824 00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:11,041 and, like, get a proper education. 825 00:36:11,959 --> 00:36:14,834 Demi: As of right now, this is something I wanna do 826 00:36:14,917 --> 00:36:17,750 for, like, ever, um. 827 00:36:18,083 --> 00:36:21,166 Yes, I'm gonna go to college, but, um... 828 00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:23,875 Yeah, she can take a little break. Four-year break. 829 00:36:23,959 --> 00:36:25,667 -(laughs) -Yeah, but, uh, yeah. 830 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:29,083 I really think that this is something that's gonna last, so... 831 00:36:30,208 --> 00:36:32,333 Interviewer: What are you gonna do this summer 832 00:36:32,417 --> 00:36:34,625 -if you're free? -Summer camp. 833 00:36:34,709 --> 00:36:37,333 I wanna go to sleepaway camp because I've never been. 834 00:36:37,417 --> 00:36:40,166 I was gonna go the year I booked "School of Rock," 835 00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:41,709 but then that didn't happen 836 00:36:41,792 --> 00:36:43,375 because I was in "School of Rock." 837 00:36:43,458 --> 00:36:45,375 I really, really wanna go to sleepaway camp. 838 00:36:45,458 --> 00:36:47,709 -This might be her first free summer in a while. Yeah. -Yeah. 839 00:36:47,792 --> 00:36:49,041 If I don't book anything, 840 00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:50,542 this might be, like, my first summer 841 00:36:50,625 --> 00:36:52,667 where I'm not doing anything. 842 00:36:53,792 --> 00:36:55,542 You know, it was tough. Like, some of the-- I-- 843 00:36:55,625 --> 00:36:58,792 I was in an adult acting class when I was nine. 844 00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:02,542 And so, that started at like 845 00:37:02,625 --> 00:37:04,750 7:00 or something, 846 00:37:04,834 --> 00:37:07,583 and didn't end until 11:00 some days. 847 00:37:08,291 --> 00:37:10,750 And then I needed a new acting headshot, 848 00:37:10,834 --> 00:37:13,208 and the photographer, at the end of the shoot, 849 00:37:13,291 --> 00:37:15,875 just had them kind of put more makeup on me, and... 850 00:37:15,959 --> 00:37:16,917 (camera flash) 851 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,834 like people freaked out over the pictures 852 00:37:18,917 --> 00:37:21,125 'cause I looked really grown up. 853 00:37:22,041 --> 00:37:23,542 And I always thought I looked like a monster 854 00:37:23,625 --> 00:37:24,792 when they were finished with me 855 00:37:24,875 --> 00:37:26,750 because it was, like, the late '80s. 856 00:37:26,834 --> 00:37:28,875 You know, it was like all that crazy makeup, 857 00:37:28,959 --> 00:37:31,041 and photographers loved me. 858 00:37:31,125 --> 00:37:33,583 I was like this little Lolita. 859 00:37:33,667 --> 00:37:37,583 It was all just so risqué and so bizarre working with a kid. 860 00:37:37,667 --> 00:37:39,917 I mean, you'd never get away with it today. 861 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,083 ♪ ♪ 862 00:37:42,166 --> 00:37:44,375 Evan: Photo shoots and stuff were like really... 863 00:37:44,458 --> 00:37:46,375 Maybe it's more of a girl thing, I don't know, 864 00:37:46,458 --> 00:37:50,583 but, like, that stuff was much more traumatizing 865 00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:52,291 than filming for me. 866 00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:55,750 I didn't wanna be in dresses. I didn't wanna be in heels. 867 00:37:55,834 --> 00:37:57,583 I didn't-- I was a tomboy, 868 00:37:57,667 --> 00:37:59,583 and that stuff was really forced onto me, 869 00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:01,625 and it's forced onto a lot of girls, 870 00:38:01,709 --> 00:38:03,291 and we're starting to reject it now. 871 00:38:03,375 --> 00:38:05,500 You're seeing it more. But, like, 872 00:38:05,583 --> 00:38:07,792 I also know that so many people have been pressured 873 00:38:07,875 --> 00:38:09,125 into staying into the closet 874 00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:11,959 and conforming to certain gender norms 875 00:38:12,041 --> 00:38:16,875 that are really prevalent in the film industry. 876 00:38:19,542 --> 00:38:21,792 Interviewer 1: How old were you when you were picked for this picture 877 00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:23,625 -by Mr. Kubrick? -Sue Lyon: I was 14. 878 00:38:23,709 --> 00:38:26,959 -Interviewer 1: Did you know what the story was about? -Sue: Yes, I did. 879 00:38:27,041 --> 00:38:29,750 My mother had read the book, and we discussed the story, 880 00:38:29,834 --> 00:38:31,750 and she knew of their previous work. 881 00:38:31,834 --> 00:38:34,125 She knew that Mr. Harris and Mr. Kubrick do 882 00:38:34,208 --> 00:38:36,417 very artful pictures, 883 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:38,166 and that they are not a quickie film company. 884 00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:40,250 She had quite a bit of faith in them. 885 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:42,959 How old are you? 886 00:38:43,041 --> 00:38:44,667 Interviewer 2: Jodie Foster loves her life. 887 00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:47,041 Even though she has worked since she was three, 888 00:38:47,125 --> 00:38:48,834 she doesn't feel she has missed anything. 889 00:38:48,917 --> 00:38:50,333 On the contrary... 890 00:38:50,417 --> 00:38:52,500 I missed all the bad things, really. 891 00:38:52,583 --> 00:38:56,000 I missed all the pimples and insecurities, and, 892 00:38:56,083 --> 00:38:58,000 "Oh, what am I gonna do? He doesn't like me?" 893 00:38:58,083 --> 00:39:02,166 You know, I missed-- I missed all the bad things about growing up, really. 894 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:03,834 ♪ ♪ 895 00:39:03,917 --> 00:39:06,208 Interviewer 3: Do you see yourself as a... 896 00:39:06,291 --> 00:39:08,458 a 12-year-old girl, an actress, 897 00:39:08,542 --> 00:39:10,667 a model, 898 00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:12,333 an adult, a kid? 899 00:39:12,417 --> 00:39:15,709 -What do you see-- -I see myself as a 12-year-old kid. 900 00:39:15,792 --> 00:39:18,000 But that just has maybe more privileges 901 00:39:18,083 --> 00:39:20,792 and has experienced more than another 12-year-old kid. 902 00:39:22,917 --> 00:39:24,125 (sighs) 903 00:39:24,208 --> 00:39:25,792 ♪ ♪ 904 00:39:25,875 --> 00:39:27,750 Leon... 905 00:39:27,834 --> 00:39:30,000 think I'm kind of falling in love with you. 906 00:39:30,083 --> 00:39:31,291 (gags) 907 00:39:33,125 --> 00:39:35,375 It's the first time for me, you know? 908 00:39:35,458 --> 00:39:38,041 Todd Thaler: I just knew that that movie was nothing 909 00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:40,458 without the casting of Mathilda being perfect. 910 00:39:41,959 --> 00:39:43,875 I don't think the director, Luc Besson, 911 00:39:43,959 --> 00:39:45,542 fully understood that at first, 912 00:39:45,625 --> 00:39:48,041 how big a challenge it was gonna be to find parents 913 00:39:48,125 --> 00:39:51,166 that would let their 11-year-old daughter play this part. 914 00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:54,959 Man: Hi, Mathilda. 915 00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:57,834 Hi, piggy. 916 00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:00,750 -Man: How you doin'? -I've seen better days, 917 00:40:00,834 --> 00:40:03,291 but I've seen worse also. 918 00:40:04,291 --> 00:40:06,083 Speak up, I can't hear you. 919 00:40:06,166 --> 00:40:08,875 It's a belly button ring! 920 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,792 How else can I say it? I don't speak no other languages! 921 00:40:11,875 --> 00:40:14,041 Oh, and you wanna know what that is? 922 00:40:16,041 --> 00:40:17,792 That is a tongue ring. 923 00:40:17,875 --> 00:40:20,542 Evan: It's that dichotomy with art, of, 924 00:40:20,625 --> 00:40:23,208 well, teenagers do have a sexuality, 925 00:40:23,792 --> 00:40:25,709 and there's a part of me that believes 926 00:40:25,792 --> 00:40:28,041 we should explore that in a way 927 00:40:28,125 --> 00:40:30,917 that makes them feel less crazy 928 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,291 and more in tune with themselves, 929 00:40:32,375 --> 00:40:34,542 and also sometimes, if it's done right, 930 00:40:34,625 --> 00:40:37,208 it can be a really beautiful exploration 931 00:40:37,291 --> 00:40:40,375 of innocence and coming-of-age. 932 00:40:40,458 --> 00:40:41,792 You need them to be sexual, 933 00:40:41,875 --> 00:40:43,875 but you also need them to not be sexual. 934 00:40:43,959 --> 00:40:46,542 Um, you need to push the boundaries 935 00:40:46,625 --> 00:40:49,375 while not pushing any boundaries. 936 00:40:49,458 --> 00:40:52,959 And you're navigating this super adult world, 937 00:40:53,041 --> 00:40:55,000 which is just kind of being dangled in front of your face 938 00:40:55,083 --> 00:40:57,500 while being told to stay a kid. 939 00:40:57,583 --> 00:41:00,792 It's like, that's-- that option is gone already. 940 00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:04,000 Kids talk about sex all the time, but... 941 00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:06,500 truthfully, I still think it's kinda gross. 942 00:41:06,583 --> 00:41:10,750 I also, like, knew about my sexuality when I was about 12. 943 00:41:10,834 --> 00:41:13,500 Um, I'm bisexual. 944 00:41:13,583 --> 00:41:18,000 Uh, and that was really interesting to navigate as well. 945 00:41:18,917 --> 00:41:22,458 When I started doing better in the industry, yeah, 946 00:41:22,542 --> 00:41:24,625 and I was sort of prepubescent, 947 00:41:24,709 --> 00:41:27,083 and you're put in these situations, 948 00:41:27,166 --> 00:41:29,458 a lot of them are your first experiences, 949 00:41:29,542 --> 00:41:31,542 and they're, like, on camera. 950 00:41:32,959 --> 00:41:36,625 Milla: You're put into an environment with a lot of adults. 951 00:41:36,709 --> 00:41:38,792 You end up becoming very friendly 952 00:41:38,875 --> 00:41:42,000 with a lot of adults, and, you know, 953 00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:44,375 your mom can't always be there. 954 00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:47,709 And, of course, especially in your teenage years 955 00:41:47,792 --> 00:41:50,375 where you're also pushing your boundaries. 956 00:41:50,458 --> 00:41:52,667 "Am I a girl? Am I a woman yet? 957 00:41:52,750 --> 00:41:54,959 "I wanna be a woman, but, like, 958 00:41:55,041 --> 00:41:57,625 you know, my mom won't let me" kind of thing. 959 00:41:57,709 --> 00:41:59,959 I mean, I got myself into some messes 960 00:42:00,041 --> 00:42:02,375 with-- with guys for sure, older guys. 961 00:42:02,458 --> 00:42:05,875 I mean, when I think now, like, what were they doing with me? 962 00:42:05,959 --> 00:42:07,834 I'm like, jeez, what, you know, 963 00:42:07,917 --> 00:42:11,083 schmucks and what creeps, you know, but at the time, 964 00:42:11,583 --> 00:42:14,000 I just thought, you know, because I'm so special 965 00:42:14,083 --> 00:42:15,709 and I'm so mature and this and that. 966 00:42:15,792 --> 00:42:17,375 And I guess I was, you know! 967 00:42:17,458 --> 00:42:20,166 I was like this magical little creature at the time. 968 00:42:21,083 --> 00:42:23,375 You know, it just saddens me 969 00:42:23,458 --> 00:42:26,458 that people would wanna take advantage of that. 970 00:42:27,959 --> 00:42:30,959 ♪ ♪ 971 00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:34,625 (cars honking) 972 00:42:36,125 --> 00:42:38,166 (street chatter) 973 00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:42,333 (crowd chatter) 974 00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:53,542 -Woman: You're so lucky! -Boy: Thanks. 975 00:42:53,625 --> 00:42:55,625 Woman: Thank you for signing! 976 00:42:55,709 --> 00:42:58,208 -Thank you! -Thank you so much! 977 00:42:58,291 --> 00:42:59,834 Okay, thanks. 978 00:43:04,667 --> 00:43:07,917 Henry: After "E.T." and two weeks in the theater, 979 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,792 it was kind of a sensation for a few months. 980 00:43:10,875 --> 00:43:12,250 Reporter: "E.T." is a phenomenon, 981 00:43:12,333 --> 00:43:14,750 the biggest thing ever to hit the cinema. 982 00:43:14,834 --> 00:43:17,166 That seemed like forever as a kid. 983 00:43:18,041 --> 00:43:19,875 I was in San Antonio, Texas, 984 00:43:19,959 --> 00:43:21,750 and people were like, "Oh my God! 985 00:43:21,834 --> 00:43:23,709 It's the kid from 'E.T.'!" 986 00:43:23,792 --> 00:43:28,375 And I wasn't set up for that at 10 or 11. 987 00:43:28,458 --> 00:43:31,500 (crowd screaming) 988 00:43:33,667 --> 00:43:36,375 Mara: The best way I can describe it is for a long time, 989 00:43:36,458 --> 00:43:39,166 to me, being recognized felt like 990 00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:41,250 the way it does when you're in a restaurant 991 00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:43,291 and they sing to you on your birthday. 992 00:43:43,375 --> 00:43:45,792 Just that, like, "Oh God. This is nice, 993 00:43:45,875 --> 00:43:48,250 but I don't feel comfortable with this," 994 00:43:48,333 --> 00:43:51,166 and "Oh, in front of everybody and everybody's gonna know. 995 00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:53,083 It's nice, but, oh, okay." 996 00:43:53,166 --> 00:43:55,500 That's-- that's kind of how I felt about being recognized. 997 00:43:55,583 --> 00:43:57,125 Hi, I'm Wil Wheaton, and... 998 00:43:57,208 --> 00:43:59,125 Wil: My experience switched. 999 00:43:59,208 --> 00:44:02,166 I stopped being a kid who was an actor, 1000 00:44:02,250 --> 00:44:03,792 and I became a child star. 1001 00:44:03,875 --> 00:44:06,834 And that fundamentally changed my life. 1002 00:44:06,917 --> 00:44:09,291 ♪ ♪ 1003 00:44:09,375 --> 00:44:11,166 I was all of a sudden getting letters 1004 00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,250 from people from all over the country. 1005 00:44:13,333 --> 00:44:16,458 Those of you who write hate letters, please spell correctly. 1006 00:44:16,542 --> 00:44:20,500 I was recognized when I went places for my work. 1007 00:44:20,583 --> 00:44:22,166 All of a sudden, these expectations for me. 1008 00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:23,709 People wanted me to talk about stuff 1009 00:44:23,792 --> 00:44:25,208 that I knew nothing about. 1010 00:44:25,291 --> 00:44:26,792 (crowd cheering) 1011 00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:28,500 Man: Wil Wheaton! You're our guy. Come on. 1012 00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:31,500 Wil: I turned into, like, a teen magazine 1013 00:44:31,583 --> 00:44:33,250 teeny bopper idol kid. 1014 00:44:34,875 --> 00:44:36,333 I hated all of that stuff. 1015 00:44:36,417 --> 00:44:38,333 I didn't like it at all. 1016 00:44:38,417 --> 00:44:41,291 It was way outside of my comfort zone. 1017 00:44:41,375 --> 00:44:43,333 It was not what I wanted to do. 1018 00:44:43,417 --> 00:44:45,333 Am I famous? I don't think-- Am I famous? 1019 00:44:45,417 --> 00:44:46,959 It created this reality for me 1020 00:44:47,041 --> 00:44:49,208 where I kind of had to play the role 1021 00:44:49,291 --> 00:44:51,333 of the young celebrity. 1022 00:44:51,417 --> 00:44:52,667 The adults in my life 1023 00:44:52,750 --> 00:44:54,625 who should've been protecting me from that were like, 1024 00:44:54,709 --> 00:44:56,000 "This is the dream!" 1025 00:44:56,083 --> 00:44:58,166 And, like, kept pushing me in front of them 1026 00:44:58,250 --> 00:45:00,166 and pushing me into these places where-- 1027 00:45:00,250 --> 00:45:03,166 where I didn't feel safe, and I felt really afraid. 1028 00:45:03,250 --> 00:45:06,542 (street chatter) 1029 00:45:06,625 --> 00:45:09,208 Cameron: You shouldn't have to deal with, you know, 1030 00:45:09,291 --> 00:45:11,542 all the responsibilities and all of the eyeballs 1031 00:45:11,625 --> 00:45:14,667 when you're that young. 1032 00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:18,041 Everybody has an idea of what they want you to be, 1033 00:45:18,125 --> 00:45:21,083 and, at that age, you don't even know what the hell you wanna be. 1034 00:45:21,166 --> 00:45:23,792 (acoustic guitar playing) 1035 00:45:28,417 --> 00:45:30,166 It's fucked up to think about, you know, 1036 00:45:30,250 --> 00:45:32,542 your entire adolescent life 1037 00:45:32,625 --> 00:45:35,166 is documented for the entire world to see. 1038 00:45:35,625 --> 00:45:36,917 That's crazy to think about. 1039 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,709 That's when you go through your awkward phase. 1040 00:45:38,792 --> 00:45:40,333 That's when you go through, "What am I? 1041 00:45:40,417 --> 00:45:41,875 I don't know what I want in this world," 1042 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,041 and everyone's watching you. 1043 00:45:44,125 --> 00:45:45,333 Everyone has something to say. 1044 00:45:45,417 --> 00:45:47,583 Everyone has an opinion about what you should be doing, 1045 00:45:47,667 --> 00:45:49,041 what you shouldn't be doing. 1046 00:45:49,125 --> 00:45:50,417 People would just not tell the truth. 1047 00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:52,083 Just say whatever they wanna say, 1048 00:45:52,166 --> 00:45:54,417 and they're believed by, you know, whoever their followers are. 1049 00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,625 Wil: When you get a like on social media, 1050 00:45:56,709 --> 00:45:59,250 you get a little hit in your brain, 1051 00:45:59,333 --> 00:46:01,583 and it becomes this self-perpetuating, 1052 00:46:01,667 --> 00:46:03,083 self-reinforcing thing. 1053 00:46:03,166 --> 00:46:05,792 (indistinct) 1054 00:46:05,875 --> 00:46:07,583 But, what are we doing? 1055 00:46:07,667 --> 00:46:10,208 Will Smith: You're blogging for, like, the YouTube channel. 1056 00:46:10,291 --> 00:46:11,959 It's like the Smith family vacation. 1057 00:46:12,041 --> 00:46:14,542 But it's not a vacation 'cause we're working. 1058 00:46:14,625 --> 00:46:16,291 Jada: Just dealing with the pressures 1059 00:46:16,375 --> 00:46:18,875 of social media alone. 1060 00:46:18,959 --> 00:46:22,208 If I had to cultivate my career as a young person 1061 00:46:22,291 --> 00:46:23,792 under the spotlight in the way 1062 00:46:23,875 --> 00:46:26,959 as young people have to cultivate their career today, 1063 00:46:27,041 --> 00:46:28,625 I don't know... 1064 00:46:28,709 --> 00:46:30,917 I-- don't-- I don't know 1065 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,792 who or what I would've become, honestly. 1066 00:46:33,875 --> 00:46:36,709 ♪ ♪ 1067 00:46:40,834 --> 00:46:43,959 (shutters snapping) 1068 00:46:44,041 --> 00:46:45,959 Wil: We're doing the best that we can do on the set, 1069 00:46:46,041 --> 00:46:49,125 but we also have to do it in public, 1070 00:46:49,208 --> 00:46:51,458 and we have to live in public, 1071 00:46:51,542 --> 00:46:53,917 and we have to get attention from people in public, 1072 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,166 and then, one day, it's gone. 1073 00:46:56,250 --> 00:46:58,291 And you don't know what to do anymore. 1074 00:46:58,375 --> 00:47:00,792 And that's how you end up on a shitty reality show 1075 00:47:00,875 --> 00:47:02,917 because you're like, "Please, just somebody pay attention to me, 1076 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,250 'cause that's the only way I know how to exist." 1077 00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,166 Ooh! Can I get my face painted? 1078 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:10,667 How about we wait till the line's a little shorter? 1079 00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:12,500 We'll come back. 1080 00:47:12,583 --> 00:47:14,500 Cameron: We are professionals. 1081 00:47:14,583 --> 00:47:16,083 Manny? Manny! 1082 00:47:16,166 --> 00:47:19,208 Cameron: We are, probably, a little moe mature than the average kid. 1083 00:47:19,625 --> 00:47:22,792 Uh, socially, we probably have more skills. 1084 00:47:24,291 --> 00:47:26,542 But, we still don't know jack shit about the world. 1085 00:47:26,625 --> 00:47:29,333 I understand that you see me in a certain way. 1086 00:47:29,417 --> 00:47:30,792 People put you on a pedestal. 1087 00:47:30,875 --> 00:47:32,667 People think you're really smart and, you know, 1088 00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:35,959 "Oh my God. You're so clever and witty and," blah blah blah, whatever. 1089 00:47:36,041 --> 00:47:38,041 But that's just because you're a child actor. 1090 00:47:38,125 --> 00:47:39,500 They don't actually know you. 1091 00:47:39,583 --> 00:47:42,166 You might recognize Mara, by the way, from-- 1092 00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:43,709 Barbara, can we swap over here? 1093 00:47:43,792 --> 00:47:45,667 Just swap Mom. No, come in! 1094 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:47,542 -Scooch. Just scooch right over. -Scooch over. 1095 00:47:47,625 --> 00:47:49,917 But, uh, you may recognize Mara 1096 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,250 -from "Mrs. Doubtfire," and... -Yes! 1097 00:47:53,333 --> 00:47:56,709 Mara: It felt very out of control to have everybody know my name, 1098 00:47:56,792 --> 00:47:58,875 and I didn't feel like I could trust anybody. 1099 00:47:58,959 --> 00:48:01,583 And that's still a problem that I have now sometimes is 1100 00:48:01,667 --> 00:48:03,709 because I-I don't know when people want me 1101 00:48:03,792 --> 00:48:05,542 because they think I have connections, 1102 00:48:05,625 --> 00:48:08,041 or they-- they, you know, like me 1103 00:48:08,125 --> 00:48:10,667 because of an image that they have of me as a child. 1104 00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:12,500 Evan, how did it feel to get nominated 1105 00:48:12,583 --> 00:48:14,083 for a Young Star Award? 1106 00:48:14,166 --> 00:48:16,166 It's wonderful. I was nominated last year, 1107 00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:17,333 and I had such a fun time, 1108 00:48:17,417 --> 00:48:19,917 so I'm really looking forward to going again. Yeah. 1109 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,333 Evan: The better I did, the more I felt like 1110 00:48:23,417 --> 00:48:25,000 who I was wasn't acceptable. 1111 00:48:25,083 --> 00:48:28,041 And I don't think that anybody did that on purpose, 1112 00:48:28,125 --> 00:48:30,542 but suddenly, I felt like 1113 00:48:30,625 --> 00:48:32,125 I didn't belong to myself anymore. 1114 00:48:32,208 --> 00:48:34,917 I was a commodity that needed to be monitored 1115 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,083 and groomed and I had to look a certain way 1116 00:48:38,166 --> 00:48:40,417 and present myself a certain way. 1117 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:43,542 Photographer: And then bring your hand up-- There you go. Excellent. 1118 00:48:43,625 --> 00:48:46,083 (shutters snapping) 1119 00:48:46,166 --> 00:48:48,208 My voice just kept getting quieter and quieter. 1120 00:48:48,291 --> 00:48:51,250 After a while, you don't really know, like, 1121 00:48:51,333 --> 00:48:53,417 do you wanna be my friend 'cause you wanna be my friend, 1122 00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:55,542 or do you wanna be my friend because I'm on TV? 1123 00:48:56,834 --> 00:48:59,750 And, you know, that's-- you gotta figure that out for yourself, 1124 00:48:59,834 --> 00:49:01,208 and at 13, how do you... 1125 00:49:01,291 --> 00:49:02,792 you don't have the social skills yet 1126 00:49:02,875 --> 00:49:04,417 to sniff out a social climber 1127 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:06,709 or a person who's trying to use you. 1128 00:49:06,792 --> 00:49:07,917 And I got used. 1129 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,250 All of a sudden, all of my cousins 1130 00:49:10,333 --> 00:49:12,959 who've either ignored me or tormented me, 1131 00:49:13,041 --> 00:49:15,291 are treating me like I'm a big deal. 1132 00:49:15,375 --> 00:49:17,250 And I knew that it wasn't because of me. 1133 00:49:17,333 --> 00:49:18,792 I knew that it was because of the movie. 1134 00:49:18,875 --> 00:49:22,834 And I remember kind of resenting that and feeling like, you know, 1135 00:49:22,917 --> 00:49:24,667 I imagine like it would've been better to be like, 1136 00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:26,417 "Yay, they finally care that I exist," 1137 00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:28,291 but I remember feeling like... 1138 00:49:28,375 --> 00:49:30,291 like, this is all bullshit! 1139 00:49:30,375 --> 00:49:33,000 Like, this isn't about me. This is because I'm famous. 1140 00:49:33,083 --> 00:49:35,458 And that was the beginning 1141 00:49:35,542 --> 00:49:38,792 of not being able to trust anybody. 1142 00:49:38,875 --> 00:49:41,875 (upbeat music playing) 1143 00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:47,583 Henry: Professionally, it made me, like, the It Kid 1144 00:49:47,667 --> 00:49:50,166 that every casting director wanted to get 1145 00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:53,208 a Henry Thomas-type for the next role. 1146 00:49:53,583 --> 00:49:55,458 Help, police, murder. 1147 00:49:55,542 --> 00:49:59,667 I remember I was getting scripts with straight offers, 1148 00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:02,208 and we had to listen to an agent. 1149 00:50:02,291 --> 00:50:04,583 -It was just a strange time. -Action. 1150 00:50:04,959 --> 00:50:06,834 Henry: And I also felt like 1151 00:50:06,917 --> 00:50:09,500 I really didn't know what I was doing still, 1152 00:50:09,583 --> 00:50:11,959 but now everybody was acting like 1153 00:50:12,041 --> 00:50:15,333 I did know everything about what I was doing. 1154 00:50:15,417 --> 00:50:18,208 -Man: 54 Henry, take two. -Woman: We're rolling! 1155 00:50:18,291 --> 00:50:19,834 Man: Marker. 1156 00:50:19,917 --> 00:50:22,125 Henry: It's a funny dance, I think, when you're a kid 1157 00:50:22,208 --> 00:50:23,375 because... 1158 00:50:23,458 --> 00:50:25,542 it hits you all at once, and emotions, 1159 00:50:25,625 --> 00:50:29,000 for me as a kid, were so overwhelming and palpable. 1160 00:50:29,083 --> 00:50:31,125 That sense of-- of pressure, 1161 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:33,709 of "you have to perform now." 1162 00:50:33,792 --> 00:50:35,125 Director: Go. 1163 00:50:36,291 --> 00:50:38,208 Hey, Ricey! What's the matter? Can't shoot straight? 1164 00:50:38,291 --> 00:50:40,375 -Oh, wait. -Director: "Can't you shoot straight." Cut. 1165 00:50:40,458 --> 00:50:43,625 -Go. -Hey, Ricey! What's the matter? Can't you str-- 1166 00:50:44,625 --> 00:50:47,667 (upbeat piano playing) 1167 00:50:50,458 --> 00:50:53,333 Diana: Child stars never earned any money at all. 1168 00:50:53,417 --> 00:50:56,458 It was just considered taking candy from a baby. 1169 00:50:57,166 --> 00:51:00,083 So at 10, I retired, having made for my family, 1170 00:51:00,166 --> 00:51:02,542 between films and vaudeville, 1171 00:51:02,625 --> 00:51:04,417 two million that I'm sure of, 1172 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:06,959 and another million that I'm not quite certain of. 1173 00:51:08,125 --> 00:51:12,041 Jackie Coogan was a victim of being exploited. 1174 00:51:12,125 --> 00:51:14,917 His family had exploited him terrifically. 1175 00:51:15,166 --> 00:51:17,291 He endures everything. 1176 00:51:18,291 --> 00:51:20,333 I had... 1177 00:51:20,834 --> 00:51:23,750 innumerable outside interests, uh, 1178 00:51:23,834 --> 00:51:25,917 endorsements of, uh, of product 1179 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,542 and food and clothing. 1180 00:51:29,166 --> 00:51:31,083 So that I was earning about 1181 00:51:31,166 --> 00:51:33,458 a million dollars a year, all told. 1182 00:51:34,667 --> 00:51:37,542 Diana: Coogan had success as a child star, 1183 00:51:37,625 --> 00:51:39,458 and he ran a full course. 1184 00:51:40,834 --> 00:51:44,375 But he was destitute. He died broke. 1185 00:51:44,458 --> 00:51:47,500 ♪ ♪ 1186 00:51:49,834 --> 00:51:52,458 I had money, but not the money I should've had. 1187 00:51:52,542 --> 00:51:54,625 My dad didn't tell us something he should've told us. 1188 00:51:54,709 --> 00:51:56,417 That these people were ripping off his clients. 1189 00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:57,750 My dad didn't tell us for three years, 1190 00:51:57,834 --> 00:52:00,250 and they got most of my stuff, too, so... 1191 00:52:00,333 --> 00:52:01,834 And, you know, the unfortunate part, 1192 00:52:01,917 --> 00:52:04,291 when they come to get you, they come in a little... 1193 00:52:04,375 --> 00:52:05,792 They don't come by themselves. 1194 00:52:05,875 --> 00:52:07,333 They come in a little minivan full of people, 1195 00:52:07,417 --> 00:52:08,959 and everyone's doing something different, 1196 00:52:09,041 --> 00:52:10,500 working a different angle. 1197 00:52:10,583 --> 00:52:12,959 And it's all to get your money out of your pocket. 1198 00:52:13,041 --> 00:52:14,750 That's what it's all about. 1199 00:52:14,834 --> 00:52:16,959 Henry: The money that I earn from movies 1200 00:52:17,041 --> 00:52:18,625 goes into a savings account, 1201 00:52:18,709 --> 00:52:20,875 but I get my allowance. 1202 00:52:21,166 --> 00:52:24,083 But what people don't realize, no matter how little 1203 00:52:24,166 --> 00:52:27,125 or how much money that the child makes, 1204 00:52:27,208 --> 00:52:31,166 that it is the child's money. It's not our money. 1205 00:52:32,208 --> 00:52:34,250 Henry: I think I felt an enormous pressure 1206 00:52:34,333 --> 00:52:36,750 on myself, like, to... 1207 00:52:37,542 --> 00:52:41,542 sort of stay at home and-- and make that peaceful 1208 00:52:41,625 --> 00:52:45,291 and have a degree of normalcy and... 1209 00:52:45,375 --> 00:52:46,250 (shutter snap) 1210 00:52:46,333 --> 00:52:49,166 But, there was an ongoing existential 1211 00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:51,208 "now what" with the family. 1212 00:52:51,291 --> 00:52:53,500 My mom was there with me all the time. 1213 00:52:53,583 --> 00:52:56,542 My dad was still working and... 1214 00:52:56,625 --> 00:52:59,458 she basically came with me for the next 1215 00:52:59,542 --> 00:53:01,208 four years, five years 1216 00:53:01,291 --> 00:53:03,166 on all of my films, 1217 00:53:03,250 --> 00:53:04,917 until I was 17. 1218 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:07,250 I think she, uh, 1219 00:53:08,041 --> 00:53:09,208 she resented me for that 1220 00:53:09,291 --> 00:53:12,375 for years afterwards, but... 1221 00:53:13,458 --> 00:53:15,959 you know, when you're a kid, you don't really think about 1222 00:53:16,041 --> 00:53:19,041 what everybody else has to do to accommodate your-- 1223 00:53:19,125 --> 00:53:21,041 your burgeoning film career. 1224 00:53:21,125 --> 00:53:22,750 Henry Thomas Sr.: We try to keep him, you know, 1225 00:53:24,083 --> 00:53:25,875 halfway normal. 1226 00:53:25,959 --> 00:53:28,583 He just wants to be regular. 1227 00:53:28,667 --> 00:53:31,834 She was coming at it from a place of... 1228 00:53:32,792 --> 00:53:35,083 ignorance, of... 1229 00:53:35,458 --> 00:53:39,333 "I don't know this world, and it's scary to me, 1230 00:53:39,417 --> 00:53:42,375 "and I feel like people are trying to rip us off, 1231 00:53:42,458 --> 00:53:46,125 and, possibly, hurt us." So, 1232 00:53:47,917 --> 00:53:50,959 that was her front and that was her attitude, and... 1233 00:53:52,166 --> 00:53:54,333 I don't think it necessarily, like, 1234 00:53:54,417 --> 00:53:56,875 did me a lot of favors, career-wise, 1235 00:53:56,959 --> 00:53:59,041 because I think she was labeled 1236 00:53:59,125 --> 00:54:01,875 as difficult to work with, and, 1237 00:54:01,959 --> 00:54:05,834 consequently, I was labeled as difficult to work with. 1238 00:54:06,166 --> 00:54:07,458 Wait, what? 1239 00:54:09,542 --> 00:54:11,625 -Yay! Yeah. -A callback. 1240 00:54:11,709 --> 00:54:12,792 (text chimes) 1241 00:54:13,375 --> 00:54:15,959 -But, when is it? -Next week. 1242 00:54:16,041 --> 00:54:18,542 You have to prepare the sides 1243 00:54:18,625 --> 00:54:21,166 with a Southern accent and... 1244 00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:24,625 "if the music director asks 1245 00:54:24,709 --> 00:54:27,542 please be prepared to riff on the songs." 1246 00:54:27,625 --> 00:54:29,542 -(chuckles) -Okay. 1247 00:54:29,625 --> 00:54:31,875 Tricia: Everything revolves around her right now, 1248 00:54:31,959 --> 00:54:33,125 so, like, I don't work 1249 00:54:33,208 --> 00:54:34,959 because I follow her around all day 1250 00:54:35,041 --> 00:54:37,583 and bring her to auditions, and she needs to be on set. 1251 00:54:37,667 --> 00:54:39,208 You know, I have to be there, 1252 00:54:39,291 --> 00:54:42,208 so we've all kind of sacrificed a lot 1253 00:54:42,291 --> 00:54:45,041 so she could do what she loves. 1254 00:54:45,542 --> 00:54:49,166 So, I hope she knows that, but. (laughs) 1255 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,125 Morning, Dad. 1256 00:54:51,208 --> 00:54:53,166 (both laugh) 1257 00:54:53,250 --> 00:54:55,458 Cameron: You know, people have to sacrifice for you, 1258 00:54:55,542 --> 00:54:58,333 which I didn't understand as a kid, but then, 1259 00:54:58,417 --> 00:55:00,458 sort of looking back on it now, I go, wow, 1260 00:55:00,542 --> 00:55:02,291 you know, my dad quit his job. 1261 00:55:02,375 --> 00:55:05,125 My son is irritated with me 'cause I'm documenting this. 1262 00:55:05,208 --> 00:55:07,458 -Why? (laughs) -But I'm documenting this 1263 00:55:07,542 --> 00:55:09,834 -because I can! -Great. 1264 00:55:09,917 --> 00:55:11,959 Cameron: My mom was letting me skip, 1265 00:55:12,041 --> 00:55:13,959 you know, my last period in school 1266 00:55:14,041 --> 00:55:16,875 so I could go to some stupid audition that I didn't book. 1267 00:55:17,208 --> 00:55:18,917 And when it really hit home for me 1268 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,792 was when my sister 1269 00:55:21,875 --> 00:55:23,583 would come home from school, 1270 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000 and talk about how her classmates 1271 00:55:27,083 --> 00:55:30,500 would just naturally associate her with me, 1272 00:55:30,583 --> 00:55:32,166 and that's what she was. 1273 00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:34,458 I hated that, and that killed me. 1274 00:55:35,458 --> 00:55:37,875 I didn't want her to feel like she was in my shadow, 1275 00:55:37,959 --> 00:55:39,875 or that she was lesser than. 1276 00:55:39,959 --> 00:55:42,041 So, there are definitely things that, like, you think back on, 1277 00:55:42,125 --> 00:55:45,875 and you're like that changed the entire fabric of, you know, 1278 00:55:45,959 --> 00:55:48,792 my family and the way that 1279 00:55:48,875 --> 00:55:50,792 we work as a unit. 1280 00:55:50,875 --> 00:55:53,250 I think with, especially with my mother, 1281 00:55:54,083 --> 00:55:56,333 she clung to me 1282 00:55:56,417 --> 00:55:58,166 during that time 1283 00:55:58,250 --> 00:56:00,208 'cause she wanted to be very protective. 1284 00:56:00,291 --> 00:56:01,709 I can't help but think 1285 00:56:01,792 --> 00:56:04,959 that I'm sure people in my family felt like 1286 00:56:05,041 --> 00:56:06,709 she started disappearing with me 1287 00:56:06,792 --> 00:56:08,375 when my career started taking off. 1288 00:56:08,458 --> 00:56:10,417 I think it just happens, 1289 00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:12,542 and I think we all felt it. 1290 00:56:12,625 --> 00:56:15,542 And I think I felt a lot of guilt for it 1291 00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:18,041 that I never really... 1292 00:56:18,125 --> 00:56:21,667 vocalized or knew how to process. 1293 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:24,792 And then, very quickly, felt like... 1294 00:56:26,458 --> 00:56:29,500 whatever struggles I was going through, or whatever... 1295 00:56:30,834 --> 00:56:34,750 I couldn't talk about because I was where... 1296 00:56:35,625 --> 00:56:39,083 I felt like a lot of people in my family wanted to be, 1297 00:56:39,166 --> 00:56:41,500 and so I think I... 1298 00:56:43,458 --> 00:56:45,375 I silenced my voice pretty quick, 1299 00:56:45,458 --> 00:56:47,583 and just felt like, well, I can't-- I don't-- 1300 00:56:47,667 --> 00:56:49,917 I can't complain about anything anymore. 1301 00:56:50,959 --> 00:56:53,625 Reporter: Mara clearly has a grip on playing a dramatic role, 1302 00:56:53,709 --> 00:56:55,709 but nothing in her training could've prepared her 1303 00:56:55,792 --> 00:56:58,083 for what happened in the midde of our "E.T." interview 1304 00:56:58,166 --> 00:56:59,834 when she lost a tooth. 1305 00:57:02,125 --> 00:57:04,333 -Yes. Oh no. -(man, indistinct) 1306 00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:09,041 (Mara, indistinct) 1307 00:57:10,041 --> 00:57:11,959 Mara: My mother died during 1308 00:57:12,041 --> 00:57:14,542 the post-production process of "Matilda." 1309 00:57:14,625 --> 00:57:16,917 I felt kind of lost and unmoored without her, 1310 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,959 and just kinda kept acting in movies 1311 00:57:19,041 --> 00:57:22,083 because it felt like a constant in my life. 1312 00:57:22,166 --> 00:57:25,834 The entertainment industry is gonna make a decision about me. 1313 00:57:26,667 --> 00:57:29,917 Am I a serious actor 1314 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,625 who's going to follow a track 1315 00:57:32,709 --> 00:57:36,291 that leads to serious work and serious roles? 1316 00:57:36,375 --> 00:57:38,834 Am I an accident 1317 00:57:38,917 --> 00:57:40,458 that got lucky in one movie? 1318 00:57:40,542 --> 00:57:43,583 -(insects chirping) -(thunder) 1319 00:57:43,667 --> 00:57:45,750 My parents put me in a shitty horror movie... 1320 00:57:45,834 --> 00:57:49,625 Narrator: But here, nothing is what it seems. 1321 00:57:49,709 --> 00:57:51,250 (rumbling) 1322 00:57:51,333 --> 00:57:53,625 Wil: Because they threw a bunch of money at us 1323 00:57:53,709 --> 00:57:58,125 and dangled a trip to Rome for the family. 1324 00:57:58,208 --> 00:58:00,750 Narrator: Wil Wheaton of "Stand By Me" 1325 00:58:00,834 --> 00:58:03,625 -must stand alone... -(screaming) 1326 00:58:03,709 --> 00:58:06,750 against "The Curse." 1327 00:58:06,834 --> 00:58:09,083 Wil: At the time, my mother was being my manager. 1328 00:58:09,166 --> 00:58:11,333 In my life circumstance, 1329 00:58:11,417 --> 00:58:14,208 her being my manager was all about her needs 1330 00:58:14,291 --> 00:58:16,291 and not about what was best for me. 1331 00:58:16,917 --> 00:58:20,125 I went and worked in a phenomenally abusive environment 1332 00:58:20,208 --> 00:58:22,375 and had a terrible experience, 1333 00:58:22,458 --> 00:58:24,208 and I think it really hurt my film career. 1334 00:58:24,291 --> 00:58:26,333 Our next movie is "Return to the Blue Lagoon." 1335 00:58:26,417 --> 00:58:28,458 It is easily one of the most ridiculous movies 1336 00:58:28,542 --> 00:58:31,000 I have ever seen in a long career 1337 00:58:31,083 --> 00:58:33,166 of many ridiculous movies. 1338 00:58:33,250 --> 00:58:36,875 I felt so horrible, um, after reading 1339 00:58:36,959 --> 00:58:39,166 you know, bad review after bad review after bad review, 1340 00:58:39,250 --> 00:58:40,500 and it screws you up. 1341 00:58:40,583 --> 00:58:42,417 I mean, you're just becoming a teenager, 1342 00:58:43,041 --> 00:58:45,834 and this is, like, your first understanding 1343 00:58:45,917 --> 00:58:48,458 of where your place is in the world, 1344 00:58:48,542 --> 00:58:49,709 how people view you, 1345 00:58:49,792 --> 00:58:53,333 and that really put a bad taste in my mouth for acting, 1346 00:58:53,417 --> 00:58:55,709 and that really convinced me that 1347 00:58:55,792 --> 00:58:58,208 this wasn't what I was meant to do. 1348 00:58:58,291 --> 00:59:00,834 Like, my mother was an amazing actress, but... 1349 00:59:01,583 --> 00:59:03,500 I needed to find myself. 1350 00:59:03,583 --> 00:59:06,542 -(bell ringing) -Very quiet, please. We're rolling. 1351 00:59:06,625 --> 00:59:08,875 -Henry: You're in this environment of... -Speed. 1352 00:59:08,959 --> 00:59:10,458 -Henry : ...a circus. -Action. 1353 00:59:11,625 --> 00:59:13,208 Henry: Where everybody's part of the circus, 1354 00:59:13,291 --> 00:59:15,041 and everybody understands, 1355 00:59:15,125 --> 00:59:17,417 and everybody's there to accommodate you 1356 00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,709 because you're all in the same world. 1357 00:59:19,792 --> 00:59:22,083 You're working together to do something. 1358 00:59:23,291 --> 00:59:25,750 And then you leave that, and you go back to, 1359 00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:29,500 in my case, rural Texas, 1360 00:59:29,583 --> 00:59:33,417 where mostly no one has been on a film set, and... 1361 00:59:34,834 --> 00:59:37,583 you start to get this feeling like, 1362 00:59:37,667 --> 00:59:39,917 "Oh, well I don't belong here. 1363 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,458 "I belong there in the circus world. 1364 00:59:42,834 --> 00:59:45,041 "So, everything that fails here, 1365 00:59:45,125 --> 00:59:47,917 "I'm just gonna take this back to the circus, 1366 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,792 "and the circus people, 1367 00:59:49,875 --> 00:59:51,792 they'll be cool to me." 1368 00:59:53,333 --> 00:59:56,250 Let's hug. Let's all hug and pretend like we like each other. 1369 00:59:56,333 --> 00:59:58,250 (indistinct chatter) 1370 00:59:58,333 --> 01:00:00,041 Evan: My mom really felt like she was 1371 01:00:00,125 --> 01:00:02,375 doing the right thing most of the time. 1372 01:00:02,458 --> 01:00:04,417 Um... 1373 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,792 but I think where everyone failed, 1374 01:00:06,875 --> 01:00:09,750 moms, managers, lawyers, everybody, um, 1375 01:00:09,834 --> 01:00:12,375 no one ever asked me how I was doing. 1376 01:00:13,041 --> 01:00:15,750 Um, my emotional state 1377 01:00:15,834 --> 01:00:19,333 was equated with how well I was doing... 1378 01:00:20,208 --> 01:00:22,000 you know, in my career. 1379 01:00:22,083 --> 01:00:23,625 And so, the better I did in my career, 1380 01:00:23,709 --> 01:00:25,750 the more they just assumed I was fine. 1381 01:00:25,834 --> 01:00:27,750 (laughs) No one really checked in, 1382 01:00:27,834 --> 01:00:30,125 especially as things began to ramp up, 1383 01:00:30,208 --> 01:00:31,625 and the fame came in. 1384 01:00:31,709 --> 01:00:34,208 No one asked, "How are you?" 1385 01:00:36,250 --> 01:00:39,125 You know? (laughs) Just a simple question. 1386 01:00:39,208 --> 01:00:41,458 -(reporters chattering) -(shutters snapping) 1387 01:00:41,542 --> 01:00:43,792 Jada: The amount of pressure 1388 01:00:43,875 --> 01:00:47,625 that young entertainers have to have it all together 1389 01:00:47,709 --> 01:00:49,750 and to not be allowed 1390 01:00:49,834 --> 01:00:52,458 to actually be young. 1391 01:00:52,542 --> 01:00:55,500 -(reporters shouting) - The kind of detriment that I see 1392 01:00:55,583 --> 01:00:57,125 that it has on the psychology 1393 01:00:57,208 --> 01:00:59,625 -(shutter snap) -of young adults. 1394 01:00:59,709 --> 01:01:01,375 It's a lot of pressure. 1395 01:01:01,458 --> 01:01:03,333 -(reporters shouting) -(shutters snapping) 1396 01:01:03,417 --> 01:01:06,000 One thing that Jaden and Willow don't necessarily, 1397 01:01:06,083 --> 01:01:07,792 they don't have to figure it all out. 1398 01:01:07,875 --> 01:01:09,500 So, there's some pitfalls that we can see and go, 1399 01:01:09,583 --> 01:01:11,208 "No, no, not that." 1400 01:01:11,291 --> 01:01:13,542 -We really are proud of Willow. -Yes. 1401 01:01:13,625 --> 01:01:16,333 Money, fame, 1402 01:01:16,417 --> 01:01:17,792 glamour, 1403 01:01:17,875 --> 01:01:20,417 I have seen people lose sight of that. 1404 01:01:21,125 --> 01:01:23,208 Even Will and I have slipped into that. 1405 01:01:23,291 --> 01:01:25,333 You know, we had to catch ourselves, and Willow's like, 1406 01:01:25,417 --> 01:01:27,458 "I'm not doing 'Whip My Hair' anymore!" It's like, okay, we get it! 1407 01:01:27,542 --> 01:01:28,667 ♪ I whip my hair back and forth ♪ 1408 01:01:28,750 --> 01:01:30,500 ♪ I whip my hair back and forth ♪ 1409 01:01:30,583 --> 01:01:32,500 Willow Smith: After that whole "Whip My Hair" thing, 1410 01:01:32,583 --> 01:01:35,959 I was just, like, plunged into this, like, black hole. 1411 01:01:36,041 --> 01:01:38,500 -Mm-hmm. -And I was, like, cutting myself-- 1412 01:01:38,583 --> 01:01:39,583 What? 1413 01:01:40,792 --> 01:01:44,000 I've seen a lot of beautiful young people and children... 1414 01:01:45,291 --> 01:01:46,667 (sighs) 1415 01:01:46,750 --> 01:01:48,834 You know, I've seen them... 1416 01:01:49,291 --> 01:01:51,000 Yeah, I've seen them... 1417 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,041 just be destroyed. 1418 01:01:55,125 --> 01:01:58,083 ♪ ♪ 1419 01:01:58,166 --> 01:02:00,041 Mara: My parents were always telling me, 1420 01:02:00,125 --> 01:02:02,709 you have to be happy and smiley when we're meeting people. 1421 01:02:02,792 --> 01:02:04,208 You have to be glad to meet people 1422 01:02:04,291 --> 01:02:06,000 and you have to be nice to your fans, 1423 01:02:06,083 --> 01:02:07,709 and it could be hard for me sometimes. 1424 01:02:07,792 --> 01:02:09,583 I struggled with it because sometimes 1425 01:02:09,667 --> 01:02:11,208 I just wanted to hang out with my friends. 1426 01:02:11,291 --> 01:02:13,083 I didn't really want to 1427 01:02:13,166 --> 01:02:14,917 you know, be signing autographs and doing all these things. 1428 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,083 I felt kind of uncomfortable with it. 1429 01:02:17,166 --> 01:02:19,208 I had some kind of impostor syndrome. 1430 01:02:19,291 --> 01:02:20,875 But, I started picking up on things, 1431 01:02:20,959 --> 01:02:23,041 and it happened from a young age. 1432 01:02:23,125 --> 01:02:26,083 I noticed, like, much older men 1433 01:02:26,166 --> 01:02:27,917 being interested in me and knowing my name, 1434 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,500 which felt wrong to me. 1435 01:02:29,875 --> 01:02:31,583 I remember Googling my own name, 1436 01:02:31,667 --> 01:02:33,083 which was a terrible thing, 1437 01:02:33,166 --> 01:02:35,875 and I saw people, like, talking about 1438 01:02:35,959 --> 01:02:37,834 Photoshopped child porn for me. 1439 01:02:39,458 --> 01:02:41,583 It was hard for me sometimes to talk to my parents and my family about this, 1440 01:02:41,667 --> 01:02:43,750 because I felt like 1441 01:02:43,834 --> 01:02:46,083 I was a burden on them. I felt ashamed. 1442 01:02:46,166 --> 01:02:48,583 My parents tried to protect me from these dangers, 1443 01:02:48,667 --> 01:02:50,375 but I could sense them. 1444 01:02:50,458 --> 01:02:53,291 I could feel them, and I knew that there were times when 1445 01:02:53,375 --> 01:02:55,792 they just weren't going to be able to protect me. 1446 01:02:56,208 --> 01:02:58,792 Maybe it would be best if you didn't even mention 1447 01:02:58,875 --> 01:03:00,709 you know, that you came back here 1448 01:03:00,792 --> 01:03:03,917 and I gave you all this ice cream before dinner. 1449 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,291 Why don't we just make it our little secret, huh? 1450 01:03:07,375 --> 01:03:10,291 -You know something, Mr. Horton? You're sneaky. -(laughter) 1451 01:03:10,375 --> 01:03:12,625 Todd: The thing about that issue 1452 01:03:12,709 --> 01:03:14,959 when you're young is you're not able to talk about it. 1453 01:03:15,041 --> 01:03:17,959 That's the biggest problem. The person wants to keep it a secret, 1454 01:03:18,041 --> 01:03:20,291 but then you feel ashamed of yourself, so then you keep it a secret. 1455 01:03:20,375 --> 01:03:23,041 Well, I was 12 years old, and my publicist, he... 1456 01:03:23,667 --> 01:03:25,792 basically, got-- talked me into 1457 01:03:25,875 --> 01:03:27,458 doing things that I didn't really wanna do. 1458 01:03:27,542 --> 01:03:29,583 I was-- hadn't had sex before, 1459 01:03:29,667 --> 01:03:32,792 and he kinda convinced me that this was the right thing to do, 1460 01:03:32,875 --> 01:03:36,083 and kinda told me, like, "Don't tell your parents," 1461 01:03:36,166 --> 01:03:38,166 you know, and he bought me a bicycle. 1462 01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:40,125 He always kept doing things for me 1463 01:03:40,208 --> 01:03:41,834 that I didn't quite really understand. 1464 01:03:41,917 --> 01:03:44,125 -So he kinda seduced you? -It started at 11-- 1465 01:03:44,208 --> 01:03:47,500 Yeah, he seduced me, and it started at 11 years old to 12. 1466 01:03:47,583 --> 01:03:49,333 You know, when I first came out and told my mom about it, 1467 01:03:49,417 --> 01:03:50,959 my mom knew I was telling the truth. 1468 01:03:51,041 --> 01:03:52,333 She could look in my eyes and knew I was telling the truth. 1469 01:03:52,417 --> 01:03:53,792 My dad took his side, 1470 01:03:53,875 --> 01:03:55,041 and that was the bad thing. 1471 01:03:55,125 --> 01:03:56,792 My dad-- It kinda crushed-- 1472 01:03:56,875 --> 01:03:58,333 When my dad took his side, that crushed me. 1473 01:03:58,417 --> 01:03:59,792 It ruined me, actually, 1474 01:03:59,875 --> 01:04:02,166 because then I was on a self-destruction course 1475 01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:04,208 to destroy myself just to hurt him. 1476 01:04:04,291 --> 01:04:07,166 It's something that a lot of parents need to see 1477 01:04:07,250 --> 01:04:09,166 and understand that these people are right there, 1478 01:04:09,250 --> 01:04:10,709 ready to trick you, you know, 1479 01:04:10,792 --> 01:04:12,333 and not trick you out of your money. 1480 01:04:12,417 --> 01:04:14,709 Trick you away from your kid, and that's a bad thing. 1481 01:04:14,792 --> 01:04:18,333 In my experience, I know a lot of, um, 1482 01:04:18,417 --> 01:04:19,959 kids that grew up in the industry, 1483 01:04:20,041 --> 01:04:22,500 and what surprised me when I got older 1484 01:04:22,583 --> 01:04:24,000 was finding out that pretty much 1485 01:04:24,083 --> 01:04:27,208 all of the young men 1486 01:04:27,291 --> 01:04:29,542 were abused in some way, sexually. 1487 01:04:29,625 --> 01:04:32,250 -(reporters chattering) -(shutters snapping) 1488 01:04:32,333 --> 01:04:35,166 I was at the Golden Globes. 1489 01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:38,125 -(applause) -I watched a pedophile win. 1490 01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:41,375 I knew. Not a lot of people know, 1491 01:04:41,458 --> 01:04:43,709 but I know that he's molested boys in the industry. 1492 01:04:43,792 --> 01:04:46,834 And I watched him get up and accept an award, 1493 01:04:46,917 --> 01:04:50,625 and I walked out and just started sobbing. 1494 01:04:51,291 --> 01:04:53,041 And a bunch of people ran after me, and they said, 1495 01:04:53,125 --> 01:04:55,041 "What? What? What's wrong?" And I just was like, 1496 01:04:55,125 --> 01:04:56,917 "I don't know if I can do this anymore. 1497 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,250 "I can't keep watching this happen. 1498 01:04:59,333 --> 01:05:02,542 I don't know how to handle this. This has to stop." 1499 01:05:02,625 --> 01:05:04,875 Reporter 1: After years of claiming sexual abuse, 1500 01:05:04,959 --> 01:05:07,542 '80s star Corey Feldman is finally being heard 1501 01:05:07,625 --> 01:05:09,166 by the LAPD. 1502 01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:11,750 I can tell you that the number one problem in Hollywood was, 1503 01:05:11,834 --> 01:05:14,375 and is and always will be, pedophilia. 1504 01:05:14,458 --> 01:05:17,458 Reporter 2: This morning, Kevin Spacey in a drama of his own. 1505 01:05:17,542 --> 01:05:20,417 The "House of Cards" star under fire following allegations 1506 01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:22,083 of sexual misconduct. 1507 01:05:22,166 --> 01:05:24,959 Reporter 3: At least six men accused Bryan Singer 1508 01:05:25,041 --> 01:05:28,041 of sexual misconduct spanning two decades. 1509 01:05:28,125 --> 01:05:31,083 Evan: Any industry that has that muh power and is that competitive, 1510 01:05:31,166 --> 01:05:33,542 because after a while, it starts to become 1511 01:05:33,625 --> 01:05:35,542 "Well, who can take the most abuse?" 1512 01:05:35,625 --> 01:05:37,709 Because somebody's waiting in line to take your place, 1513 01:05:37,792 --> 01:05:41,291 so you just start to allow yourself 1514 01:05:41,375 --> 01:05:44,792 to be abused in some form or another. 1515 01:05:44,875 --> 01:05:47,750 Um, every actor is guilty of that. 1516 01:05:47,834 --> 01:05:49,709 -They're lying if they say they're not. -Interviewer: For sure. 1517 01:05:49,792 --> 01:05:52,458 (laughs) Because it's just part of the deal at this point, 1518 01:05:52,542 --> 01:05:54,625 and, unfortunately, until things change, 1519 01:05:54,709 --> 01:05:56,959 there's always gonna be somebody willing to 1520 01:05:57,041 --> 01:05:58,417 -take abuse. -Interviewer: And stay quiet. 1521 01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:00,250 And stay quiet. Yep. Yep. Yep. 1522 01:06:00,333 --> 01:06:02,291 -It happened to me, too. -Me, too. 1523 01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:03,500 It happened to me, too. 1524 01:06:04,709 --> 01:06:05,667 Jada: People are coming out, women are coming out 1525 01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:08,125 and talking about things that they've experienced 1526 01:06:08,208 --> 01:06:09,959 so that young women, 1527 01:06:10,041 --> 01:06:12,625 and young boys, who are coming up in the game 1528 01:06:12,709 --> 01:06:15,333 can have more awareness that it's not just a saying. 1529 01:06:15,417 --> 01:06:18,583 It's actually (laughs)-- It is actually a reality. 1530 01:06:18,667 --> 01:06:21,709 -(traffic noise) -(birds chirping) 1531 01:06:22,542 --> 01:06:24,959 Melanie: I put a GizmoWatch on him 1532 01:06:25,041 --> 01:06:26,959 when I go-- so he can call me. 1533 01:06:27,041 --> 01:06:29,750 I mean, if anything happens, I was like, you call me. 1534 01:06:29,834 --> 01:06:33,583 I mean, you hit one button, I'm in that door. (laughs) I don't care! 1535 01:06:33,667 --> 01:06:34,875 Okay, I can do my... 1536 01:06:34,959 --> 01:06:37,875 Melanie: I'm-- I'm realistic of what really goes on, 1537 01:06:37,959 --> 01:06:40,333 or can go on. I didn't think that back-- 1538 01:06:40,417 --> 01:06:43,125 I mean, about children back then. 1539 01:06:43,208 --> 01:06:46,458 Now, you know, the-- always the MeToo thing. 1540 01:06:46,542 --> 01:06:48,291 That-- I had some instances like that 1541 01:06:48,375 --> 01:06:50,542 that I had to say "absolutely not." 1542 01:06:50,625 --> 01:06:53,709 -(reporters chattering) -(shutters snapping) 1543 01:06:55,083 --> 01:06:56,834 Jada: I'm grateful that 1544 01:06:56,917 --> 01:07:00,166 Willow may not have to 1545 01:07:00,250 --> 01:07:02,208 come up against that as well because it's so-- 1546 01:07:02,291 --> 01:07:04,667 people are like... 1547 01:07:04,750 --> 01:07:07,000 people are talking. (laughs) 1548 01:07:07,083 --> 01:07:08,333 You know? 1549 01:07:08,417 --> 01:07:09,500 (puffing) 1550 01:07:09,583 --> 01:07:12,458 -(steam hissing) -(crossing bell ringing) 1551 01:07:15,458 --> 01:07:17,250 (brakes creaking) 1552 01:07:18,834 --> 01:07:21,875 "Shining Time"? What does that mean? 1553 01:07:21,959 --> 01:07:23,208 (barking) 1554 01:07:23,291 --> 01:07:25,208 Do you want me to get off here? 1555 01:07:25,291 --> 01:07:27,083 (steam hissing) 1556 01:07:27,166 --> 01:07:29,375 Mara: I had been burned out on acting for a while, 1557 01:07:29,458 --> 01:07:31,041 but... 1558 01:07:31,125 --> 01:07:34,375 Hollywood wasn't really interested in me anymore either 1559 01:07:34,458 --> 01:07:37,750 because I was pubescent and deeply insecure, 1560 01:07:37,834 --> 01:07:40,375 and I was not a cute teenager. 1561 01:07:40,458 --> 01:07:41,917 I'd been a cute kid, 1562 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,875 and I hadn't even realized that I'd been a cute kid. 1563 01:07:43,959 --> 01:07:45,875 In fact, I didn't like being told that I was a cute kid 1564 01:07:45,959 --> 01:07:47,500 because I thought it was condescending. 1565 01:07:47,583 --> 01:07:50,375 I would self-sabotage on auditions all the time. 1566 01:07:50,458 --> 01:07:52,709 Just didn't wanna go to them. I felt so desperately insecure. 1567 01:07:52,792 --> 01:07:54,333 I would look at all the other girls around me, 1568 01:07:54,417 --> 01:07:56,583 which was something that I'd never done before. 1569 01:07:56,667 --> 01:07:58,583 ♪ ♪ 1570 01:07:58,667 --> 01:08:02,792 Henry: I had never felt particularly great at auditions. 1571 01:08:02,875 --> 01:08:04,375 But now, I was... 1572 01:08:05,166 --> 01:08:06,709 16, 1573 01:08:06,792 --> 01:08:08,875 and I was going into rooms 1574 01:08:08,959 --> 01:08:10,000 where they were expecting 1575 01:08:10,083 --> 01:08:13,917 like, an 11-year-old boy to walk through sometimes. 1576 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,875 And I remember being at several, uh... 1577 01:08:18,667 --> 01:08:21,583 meetings and sitting in the green room, waiting, 1578 01:08:21,667 --> 01:08:25,750 um, and seeing, like, 1579 01:08:25,834 --> 01:08:28,208 a producer walk out, 1580 01:08:28,291 --> 01:08:31,625 and kind of try to casually, like... 1581 01:08:31,709 --> 01:08:33,583 take a look, and go back, and then I'd see 1582 01:08:33,667 --> 01:08:36,458 another producer come out, take a look, 1583 01:08:36,542 --> 01:08:40,291 go back, and then be five minutes of silence. 1584 01:08:40,375 --> 01:08:44,125 And then a receptionist would come and say, 1585 01:08:44,208 --> 01:08:45,834 "I'm sorry. 1586 01:08:45,917 --> 01:08:48,417 "You know, they're not gonna see you today. 1587 01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:50,417 We're-- we rescheduled it." Blah blah blah. 1588 01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:54,208 And I-I realized quickly, I was like, "Oh. 1589 01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:57,625 "They-- they're not looking for teenage me. 1590 01:08:57,709 --> 01:09:01,000 They're looking for, like, 'E.T.' me." 1591 01:09:02,208 --> 01:09:03,792 Diana: It's almost as though 1592 01:09:03,875 --> 01:09:06,250 you had ceased to be alive. 1593 01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:10,083 I had the feeling that I was a senior citizen at 15. 1594 01:09:10,166 --> 01:09:11,625 And it not only happened to m. 1595 01:09:11,709 --> 01:09:13,625 It happened to so many of the children. 1596 01:09:13,709 --> 01:09:16,583 They were adorable, they were wanted, 1597 01:09:16,667 --> 01:09:18,625 they were loved one day. 1598 01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:20,667 And almost the very next day, 1599 01:09:20,750 --> 01:09:23,166 just when they were becoming human beings, 1600 01:09:23,250 --> 01:09:25,834 in a sense, full adult human beings, 1601 01:09:25,917 --> 01:09:28,458 they were told, "You're finished." 1602 01:09:28,542 --> 01:09:30,959 -Congratulations. "Jessie" is nominated. -Yes. 1603 01:09:31,041 --> 01:09:32,667 That is amazing, and you guys just wrapped up. 1604 01:09:32,750 --> 01:09:34,709 -So, how was that, like, on set? How was that? -Yeah. 1605 01:09:34,792 --> 01:09:36,375 It was sad. It was really sad. 1606 01:09:36,458 --> 01:09:38,834 It was really hard saying goodbye, but at the same time, 1607 01:09:38,917 --> 01:09:42,041 we're all moving on to bigger and better things, hopefully. 1608 01:09:42,125 --> 01:09:44,000 So, it should be good for all of us, 1609 01:09:44,083 --> 01:09:46,000 and, uh, it was really sad though because I-- 1610 01:09:46,083 --> 01:09:47,959 we basically grew up on that stage. 1611 01:09:48,041 --> 01:09:51,542 Cameron: I think I started to sort of question everything. 1612 01:09:51,625 --> 01:09:54,709 When people would go, "Are you gonna go to college?" 1613 01:09:54,792 --> 01:09:56,959 I was like, oh shit. (laughs) 1614 01:09:57,041 --> 01:09:59,000 Um, no? I don't know. I've-- 1615 01:09:59,083 --> 01:10:02,834 Like, should I? Right? I'm, like, confused, and people are... 1616 01:10:03,125 --> 01:10:05,917 'Cause that's-- But that's society's plan, right? 1617 01:10:06,792 --> 01:10:09,500 My life was do two jobs at once. 1618 01:10:09,583 --> 01:10:12,041 -I'm doing school and I'm working. -Choreographer: Down, up! 1619 01:10:12,125 --> 01:10:14,375 Cameron: And now, you know, do I do college? I don't know. 1620 01:10:14,458 --> 01:10:16,417 Like, why-- why would I? 'Cause I've made money, 1621 01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:18,083 but also that-- that would be good for me, 1622 01:10:18,166 --> 01:10:20,375 and I don't know anything about money, and holy shit. 1623 01:10:20,458 --> 01:10:22,500 Then it's just, like, a spiral of 1624 01:10:22,583 --> 01:10:25,083 you know, okay, what-- Stop. What it is... 1625 01:10:25,166 --> 01:10:28,041 What-- what is it that I need to do 1626 01:10:28,125 --> 01:10:30,375 to prepare myself for the real world 1627 01:10:30,458 --> 01:10:32,208 because I wasn't living in it. 1628 01:10:32,291 --> 01:10:33,875 (laughs) This is not real. 1629 01:10:33,959 --> 01:10:35,375 (shutter snapping) 1630 01:10:35,458 --> 01:10:38,667 Milla: I really got turned off to the business. 1631 01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:40,542 I mean, when I was 16, 1632 01:10:40,625 --> 01:10:42,875 "A," I moved out of my house. 1633 01:10:42,959 --> 01:10:44,583 Listen, I was emancipated. 1634 01:10:44,667 --> 01:10:45,750 My mom emancipated me 1635 01:10:45,834 --> 01:10:48,000 so I could work adult hours. 1636 01:10:48,625 --> 01:10:51,583 You can't say anything about what I do. 1637 01:10:51,667 --> 01:10:54,458 I have my own money. I'm gonna move out. 1638 01:10:54,542 --> 01:10:56,417 I went and got married. 1639 01:10:56,500 --> 01:10:58,625 I, like, full on... 1640 01:10:58,709 --> 01:11:00,417 just kind of went crazy. 1641 01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:02,417 And I understand right now you're kind of in a tough time. 1642 01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:05,041 You actually don't have a place to stay right now, is that true? 1643 01:11:05,125 --> 01:11:06,375 -No... -So you have no place to live. 1644 01:11:06,458 --> 01:11:07,709 Where's all your stuff right now? 1645 01:11:07,792 --> 01:11:10,583 It's at JFK. (laughs) In storage. 1646 01:11:10,667 --> 01:11:13,041 -Really? It's in storage at JFK? -Yeah. I've got about... 1647 01:11:13,125 --> 01:11:15,834 -15 boxes. -What's in the boxes? 1648 01:11:16,208 --> 01:11:18,125 Um, well, candlesticks, 1649 01:11:18,208 --> 01:11:21,583 -books, uh, picture frames, you know, stuff. -Right. 1650 01:11:21,667 --> 01:11:24,250 -So you just pick-- -A lot of Carltons. 1651 01:11:24,333 --> 01:11:26,750 -(grunts) No. -A lot of cigarettes... 1652 01:11:26,834 --> 01:11:28,375 Milla: I did feel like 1653 01:11:28,834 --> 01:11:31,500 I had kind of a bad start in this industry, 1654 01:11:31,583 --> 01:11:34,458 and I knew that I wanted to be an artist. 1655 01:11:34,542 --> 01:11:37,709 Um, I knew I had a voice and I had something to say. 1656 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,667 After I turned 18, 1657 01:11:40,750 --> 01:11:43,458 and there were no signs of anything slowing down, 1658 01:11:43,542 --> 01:11:47,500 and I had done the film "Thirteen" when I was 14, 1659 01:11:47,583 --> 01:11:50,959 right on the verge of becoming a woman, 1660 01:11:51,041 --> 01:11:53,834 and I was-- all eyes were on me, 1661 01:11:53,917 --> 01:11:57,166 and at that point, there was a tremendous amount of pressure 1662 01:11:57,250 --> 01:11:59,000 of what I needed to be 1663 01:11:59,083 --> 01:12:01,083 in order to be successful. 1664 01:12:01,166 --> 01:12:02,583 And a lot of it went against 1665 01:12:02,667 --> 01:12:05,875 who I really was, and who I felt I really was. 1666 01:12:06,583 --> 01:12:08,208 Right, stay there. 1667 01:12:09,125 --> 01:12:10,208 Just, uh... 1668 01:12:11,250 --> 01:12:13,500 Evan: When I hit my early 20s, I just realized, 1669 01:12:13,583 --> 01:12:15,667 "Oh, I have no life skills." 1670 01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:18,375 I know how to be a really successful actor 1671 01:12:18,458 --> 01:12:20,917 and do really great work, and that's about it. 1672 01:12:21,208 --> 01:12:23,500 And it all kinda came crashing down on me at once, 1673 01:12:23,583 --> 01:12:25,709 and I short-circuited. 1674 01:12:25,792 --> 01:12:28,875 And I also was left with the question of, 1675 01:12:28,959 --> 01:12:31,834 "Is this even really who I am and what I wanna do?" 1676 01:12:31,917 --> 01:12:33,792 And what happens if I walk away? 1677 01:12:33,875 --> 01:12:36,625 Narrator: Born after the original series went off the air, 1678 01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:38,834 Wil Wheaton, the youngest member of the cast 1679 01:12:38,917 --> 01:12:40,709 of "Star Trek: The Next Generation," 1680 01:12:40,792 --> 01:12:42,375 considers himself, without a doubt, 1681 01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:43,875 to be a fan. 1682 01:12:43,959 --> 01:12:46,542 The people from "Star Trek" reach out to my agent, 1683 01:12:46,625 --> 01:12:49,709 and she sent me on the audition, 1684 01:12:49,792 --> 01:12:51,166 and I booked the job. 1685 01:12:52,291 --> 01:12:55,166 Sir, I know this may finish me as an acting ensign, 1686 01:12:55,250 --> 01:12:57,041 -but-- -Shut up, Wesley! 1687 01:12:57,125 --> 01:12:59,542 Everything that I have said would've been listened to 1688 01:12:59,625 --> 01:13:01,291 if it came from an adult officer. 1689 01:13:01,792 --> 01:13:03,875 Wil: Generally, young men were furious 1690 01:13:03,959 --> 01:13:05,709 that there was another young man 1691 01:13:05,792 --> 01:13:08,333 on their science fiction television show. 1692 01:13:08,750 --> 01:13:10,500 A hundred million words have been written about that. 1693 01:13:10,583 --> 01:13:12,583 I don't need to go over it again. 1694 01:13:12,667 --> 01:13:15,667 It was like being told this thing that you spend all day, 1695 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,333 every day, working on instead of being kid, 1696 01:13:18,417 --> 01:13:21,250 it doesn't matter, and we hate you for it. 1697 01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,166 And then, I turned 18. 1698 01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:25,709 I was an adult. I could make my own decisions. 1699 01:13:25,792 --> 01:13:27,333 And I had this revelation. 1700 01:13:27,417 --> 01:13:29,166 "Oh, I don't have to do this if I don't want to." 1701 01:13:29,250 --> 01:13:31,458 I don't have to do this thing 1702 01:13:31,542 --> 01:13:34,709 that means more to my mom than it does to me. 1703 01:13:34,792 --> 01:13:36,458 I can go live my life. 1704 01:13:36,542 --> 01:13:38,542 I can be my own person, 1705 01:13:38,625 --> 01:13:41,959 -and I just kinda walked away. -There. 1706 01:13:42,500 --> 01:13:44,375 What do you think of that, huh? 1707 01:13:44,458 --> 01:13:46,250 I think your mom is gonna kill you. 1708 01:13:46,333 --> 01:13:48,417 My mom? She hasn't been in here 1709 01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:50,542 -since I was six. -(scoffs) 1710 01:13:50,625 --> 01:13:54,625 I understand why young people who aren't ready for it, 1711 01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:58,417 and I really don't know of a young kid who is ready for it, 1712 01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:00,875 get resentful and get self-destructive, 1713 01:14:00,959 --> 01:14:04,417 and-- and, like, start engaging in dangerous behavior 1714 01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:06,709 because they feel so out of control. 1715 01:14:06,792 --> 01:14:08,959 -I'm looking for a job. -Hey, man, everybody's coming in here 1716 01:14:09,041 --> 01:14:11,750 asking me for a job. What am I supposed to do? 1717 01:14:11,834 --> 01:14:14,583 Todd: The transition for most kids when you transition from that 1718 01:14:14,667 --> 01:14:16,834 is you have to transition into adulthood 1719 01:14:16,917 --> 01:14:18,125 and hope that you continue to work, 1720 01:14:18,208 --> 01:14:19,500 but, for me, 1721 01:14:19,583 --> 01:14:21,250 I could've made that transition very well, 1722 01:14:21,333 --> 01:14:23,959 but I made it more difficult on me than it should've been. 1723 01:14:24,041 --> 01:14:27,625 When did it start to-to go sour for you? 1724 01:14:27,709 --> 01:14:29,792 Well, it's when I lost my self-esteem 1725 01:14:29,875 --> 01:14:31,625 and I lost my dignity 1726 01:14:31,709 --> 01:14:33,959 inside of myself, and I lost my, virtually, 1727 01:14:34,041 --> 01:14:35,834 you know, I lost myself. 1728 01:14:35,917 --> 01:14:37,250 So, how'd you respond to that? 1729 01:14:37,583 --> 01:14:40,125 I re-- I responded to it very negatively, evidently. 1730 01:14:40,208 --> 01:14:43,458 I ended up getting myself in a little bit of trouble. 1731 01:14:43,542 --> 01:14:45,792 -You wanna detail it? -Well, in trouble by using drugs 1732 01:14:45,875 --> 01:14:47,667 and doing things that I shouldn't have been doing. 1733 01:14:49,542 --> 01:14:51,792 Juror: We the jury, in the above entitled action, 1734 01:14:51,875 --> 01:14:55,333 find the defendant, Todd Anthony Bridges, not guilty 1735 01:14:55,417 --> 01:14:59,000 of simple assault in violation of penal code section 240... 1736 01:14:59,083 --> 01:15:02,792 (continues indistinctly) 1737 01:15:05,709 --> 01:15:08,000 Wasn't there a time where you actually went to his house, Betty? 1738 01:15:08,083 --> 01:15:10,834 -Yes. -And there you were. You went to his house. 1739 01:15:10,917 --> 01:15:13,542 -Oprah: You were all dressed in black... -He nailed me out. 1740 01:15:13,625 --> 01:15:15,166 -And you were all dressed in black, -Betty: Mm-hmm. 1741 01:15:15,250 --> 01:15:17,333 And you said, "I'm wearing black because..." 1742 01:15:17,417 --> 01:15:19,333 I know you're gonna die. 1743 01:15:19,417 --> 01:15:21,834 And I nail-- And he nailed me out of his house. 1744 01:15:21,917 --> 01:15:23,166 He wouldn't let me in. 1745 01:15:23,250 --> 01:15:27,500 He actually took furniture and nailed me out of the house. 1746 01:15:27,583 --> 01:15:30,041 Todd: For me, I always thought everything was supposed to be fair. 1747 01:15:30,125 --> 01:15:31,834 Like, everything's just supposed to be-- well, it has to be fair, 1748 01:15:31,917 --> 01:15:33,000 but it just wasn't. 1749 01:15:33,083 --> 01:15:35,333 And that's things you learn growing up as a child. 1750 01:15:35,417 --> 01:15:37,709 That you learn things just aren't fair, you know. 1751 01:15:37,792 --> 01:15:39,542 (laughs) It's not going to be. 1752 01:15:39,625 --> 01:15:41,500 From TV star to drug addict, 1753 01:15:41,583 --> 01:15:43,333 it's Dana Plato's last chance. 1754 01:15:43,417 --> 01:15:45,000 Just one month ago, 1755 01:15:45,083 --> 01:15:47,667 former "Diff'rent Strokes" star Dana Plato told us 1756 01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:49,542 she was getting her life back together. 1757 01:15:49,625 --> 01:15:51,750 Now, she's been hauled back into court 1758 01:15:51,834 --> 01:15:52,959 with a judge threatening, 1759 01:15:53,041 --> 01:15:56,333 "One more mistake, and it's behind bars for good" 1760 01:15:56,959 --> 01:15:58,917 Todd: Poor Dana. You know, to get people to believe that, 1761 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,208 "Oh, you just threw your life away." It's like, "Oh yeah, 1762 01:16:01,291 --> 01:16:03,083 "I chose to throw my life away. Let me just throw my life-- 1763 01:16:03,166 --> 01:16:04,875 I'm gonna throw everything I worked for away today." 1764 01:16:04,959 --> 01:16:07,208 No one chooses that. It's something that happens, 1765 01:16:07,291 --> 01:16:08,750 and then, you know, it's a tough journey, 1766 01:16:08,834 --> 01:16:10,333 and Dana had a hard journey. 1767 01:16:11,792 --> 01:16:13,041 Howard Stern: What can I tell you, Dana? 1768 01:16:13,125 --> 01:16:15,333 -You're controversial, evidently. - (Dana laughs) 1769 01:16:15,417 --> 01:16:18,083 Robin Quivers: Are you sorry that you were a child actress? 1770 01:16:18,166 --> 01:16:20,417 Dana: No, see, you know, that-- that term really bothers me. 1771 01:16:20,500 --> 01:16:24,125 I think a child actress is someone who only has it when they're little and cute. 1772 01:16:24,208 --> 01:16:26,375 You know? I'm better now than I ever have been. 1773 01:16:26,458 --> 01:16:28,375 -Howard: Acting-wise? Yes. -Dana: And I get better-- Yeah. 1774 01:16:28,458 --> 01:16:30,417 I get better all the time. The fire's still in there. 1775 01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:32,625 -Howard: It is? So, you enjoy it? -Dana: Yes. I'm an actress. 1776 01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:34,542 I consider myself an actor, 1777 01:16:34,625 --> 01:16:36,458 -not a child star. -Howard: Right. 1778 01:16:36,542 --> 01:16:38,083 -Dana: That really bothers me a lot -Howard: Why? 1779 01:16:38,166 --> 01:16:39,917 Dana: Because I never was young and cute, you know? 1780 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,959 (laughs) I got cute as I got older, maybe, you know, 1781 01:16:42,041 --> 01:16:44,834 but no really, I think it's something that it burns withi. 1782 01:16:50,166 --> 01:16:52,250 You know, we all had our share of things we went through, 1783 01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:54,083 but I think for Gary, it was a lot tougher 1784 01:16:54,166 --> 01:16:56,625 because he was also ill while he was working. 1785 01:16:57,625 --> 01:17:00,125 Sometimes when he was working, we didn't think he should be working at the time, 1786 01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:01,625 but, you know, can't say what the parents 1787 01:17:01,709 --> 01:17:03,458 are gonna do and that's up to them. 1788 01:17:03,542 --> 01:17:06,417 If you did, you wouldn't have done this! 1789 01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:08,000 Todd: I couldn't imagine being-- 1790 01:17:08,083 --> 01:17:10,125 like, he had just had a kidney transplant at one time, 1791 01:17:10,208 --> 01:17:12,500 and then he was back on the set, like, a day later. 1792 01:17:12,583 --> 01:17:14,834 And, um, that's why for a while, 1793 01:17:14,917 --> 01:17:16,834 he really resented the show. 1794 01:17:16,917 --> 01:17:19,709 It was because he was made to work when he was sick. 1795 01:17:20,750 --> 01:17:23,917 Terry Moran: The death of a child star, Gary Coleman, 1796 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,333 who, as a boy, provided so much amusement, 1797 01:17:26,417 --> 01:17:28,959 so many laughs on the hit show "Diff'rent Strokes" 1798 01:17:29,041 --> 01:17:30,542 died today. 1799 01:17:31,667 --> 01:17:33,125 Todd: My phone rang and I picked it up 1800 01:17:33,208 --> 01:17:34,458 and found out he had passed away. 1801 01:17:34,542 --> 01:17:36,625 You know, the interesting part is realizing that 1802 01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:37,917 the person they thought would not be here 1803 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,291 is actually the last person standing, which is kinda weird. 1804 01:17:42,875 --> 01:17:45,667 It's 7:33 now. An autopsy later today 1805 01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:47,834 will determine the exact cause of death 1806 01:17:47,917 --> 01:17:51,041 of one of Hollywood's rising stars, River Phoenix. 1807 01:17:51,125 --> 01:17:53,542 Today's "New York Daily News" quotes a paramedic who said 1808 01:17:53,625 --> 01:17:56,375 that the actor collapsed with all of the signs 1809 01:17:56,458 --> 01:17:58,125 of a cocaine reaction. 1810 01:17:58,542 --> 01:18:00,375 Anchor: It happened outside the Viper Room, 1811 01:18:00,458 --> 01:18:02,959 a popular West Hollywood night spot. 1812 01:18:03,041 --> 01:18:05,083 (siren wailing) 1813 01:18:13,291 --> 01:18:15,625 Went out the door and, um, 1814 01:18:16,417 --> 01:18:18,458 the paramedics were... 1815 01:18:19,917 --> 01:18:21,542 uh, working on him. 1816 01:18:22,417 --> 01:18:24,875 This young man, and I didn't, uh, 1817 01:18:24,959 --> 01:18:27,500 I didn't know at the time that it was River. 1818 01:18:28,083 --> 01:18:29,709 The, uh... 1819 01:18:29,792 --> 01:18:32,250 media wouldn't let not only River rest, 1820 01:18:32,333 --> 01:18:33,709 but they wouldn't let his family rest. 1821 01:18:33,792 --> 01:18:36,834 -(quiet chatter) -(siren wailing in distance) 1822 01:18:40,667 --> 01:18:42,458 River and I were real close. 1823 01:18:43,667 --> 01:18:45,875 He was a year and a half older than me, 1824 01:18:45,959 --> 01:18:48,750 but he was like an older brother who I looked up to. 1825 01:18:49,125 --> 01:18:50,333 I'll see ya. 1826 01:18:50,417 --> 01:18:52,458 Not if I see you first. 1827 01:18:54,959 --> 01:18:56,709 Wil: I looked up to him as a person, 1828 01:18:56,792 --> 01:18:58,000 I looked up to him as an actor, 1829 01:18:58,083 --> 01:19:00,792 and I just treasured him as a friend. 1830 01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:05,667 And then, around the time that I was... 1831 01:19:06,875 --> 01:19:08,792 15 or 16, 1832 01:19:10,166 --> 01:19:13,709 he was kind of experimenting with drugs. 1833 01:19:14,709 --> 01:19:18,291 And River and I began to sort of drift apart from each othe. 1834 01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:22,583 Which really made me sad, but I remember thinking like, 1835 01:19:22,667 --> 01:19:25,041 you know, when he's done with this, we'll be friends again. 1836 01:19:25,125 --> 01:19:27,458 ♪ ♪ 1837 01:19:27,542 --> 01:19:29,875 By the time River died, 1838 01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:34,458 I hadn't talked to him for, gosh, a couple of years, 1839 01:19:35,208 --> 01:19:37,375 and I couldn't believe it had happened. 1840 01:19:37,458 --> 01:19:41,250 And I was, and remain, so angry 1841 01:19:41,333 --> 01:19:43,083 at the predatory people around him 1842 01:19:43,166 --> 01:19:44,917 who didn't try to help him. 1843 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,333 And I know addicts are responsible for their own behavior, 1844 01:19:47,417 --> 01:19:49,792 and I know that, that it is, you know, 1845 01:19:49,875 --> 01:19:52,083 it's important to, like, hold people responsible 1846 01:19:52,166 --> 01:19:54,208 for the choices that they make. 1847 01:19:54,917 --> 01:19:56,792 But we also need help in our lives, 1848 01:19:56,875 --> 01:19:58,583 and we need people to look out for us, 1849 01:19:58,667 --> 01:20:00,917 and I don't think there was anybody looking out for him. 1850 01:20:02,375 --> 01:20:04,917 ♪ This talk is cheap ♪ 1851 01:20:05,875 --> 01:20:08,834 Milla: I think that's one of the sort of pitfalls 1852 01:20:08,917 --> 01:20:11,500 of being a kid in the entertainment business. 1853 01:20:11,583 --> 01:20:14,291 It's so hard to, like, go from being a kid actor 1854 01:20:14,375 --> 01:20:16,000 to being, like, an adult artist. 1855 01:20:16,333 --> 01:20:19,834 ♪ I don't know how to trust you ♪ 1856 01:20:19,917 --> 01:20:22,959 I stopped modeling. I stopped acting. 1857 01:20:23,041 --> 01:20:26,583 I went to Europe. I recorded a record. 1858 01:20:26,667 --> 01:20:28,542 At the time, I really thought it was music 1859 01:20:28,625 --> 01:20:32,333 that I was gonna be able to leave my mark on the world with. 1860 01:20:32,417 --> 01:20:35,500 The big turning point for me, on so many levels, 1861 01:20:35,583 --> 01:20:37,125 but especially as an actress, 1862 01:20:37,208 --> 01:20:39,291 because I had kind of written it all off, 1863 01:20:39,375 --> 01:20:41,959 was, um, getting "The Fifth Element." 1864 01:20:42,041 --> 01:20:45,125 ♪ ♪ 1865 01:20:45,208 --> 01:20:46,625 I was 19. 1866 01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:49,458 You know, to access a character like Leeloo 1867 01:20:49,542 --> 01:20:52,667 that's kind of-- there was no reference point. 1868 01:20:52,750 --> 01:20:54,291 She was kind of brand new 1869 01:20:54,375 --> 01:20:55,917 and came out of nowhere. 1870 01:20:57,083 --> 01:20:58,333 So it was, like, very tricky. 1871 01:20:58,417 --> 01:21:00,500 Like, who is she and how to find her. 1872 01:21:00,583 --> 01:21:02,083 Hi. 1873 01:21:03,417 --> 01:21:06,000 Milla: Of course, when I-- when I did "The Fifth Element," 1874 01:21:06,083 --> 01:21:08,792 it suddenly gave me this feeling of control that 1875 01:21:09,250 --> 01:21:12,750 I had a talent and that I-- 1876 01:21:12,834 --> 01:21:15,667 I knew how to... 1877 01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:17,417 access it, in a way. 1878 01:21:18,125 --> 01:21:20,875 And not all the time. I mean, sometimes more than others, 1879 01:21:20,959 --> 01:21:23,208 and, you know, that's where you go through your journey 1880 01:21:23,291 --> 01:21:26,166 of kind of understanding, like, what scripts speak to you 1881 01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:28,375 when you just feel like, ooh, I can do something with this. 1882 01:21:28,458 --> 01:21:30,208 Like, it feels natural. You know, 1883 01:21:30,291 --> 01:21:32,709 or on the other hand, wow, this feels so crazy. 1884 01:21:32,792 --> 01:21:34,875 Like, I want-- it's a challenge. 1885 01:21:34,959 --> 01:21:36,667 Like now, you know, you get excited 1886 01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:38,375 by things that you've never done before. 1887 01:21:38,458 --> 01:21:41,083 -Director: Cut! -(laughter, applause) 1888 01:21:41,166 --> 01:21:42,917 But, you know, at the time, 1889 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,750 you know, it was difficult becoming a teenager 1890 01:21:45,834 --> 01:21:47,250 and having that confidence. 1891 01:21:47,333 --> 01:21:50,583 Like, I had no confidence as a teenager. 1892 01:21:50,667 --> 01:21:53,333 You know, it was definitely like a "fake it till you make it." 1893 01:21:53,875 --> 01:21:56,417 Luc Besson said to me, 1894 01:21:56,500 --> 01:21:57,875 "You know, look at it this way. 1895 01:21:57,959 --> 01:22:01,291 "Like, your mother is like an expert table-maker. 1896 01:22:01,375 --> 01:22:04,959 "She makes the most amazing tables ever, 1897 01:22:05,041 --> 01:22:06,583 "but you... 1898 01:22:06,667 --> 01:22:08,417 You make great chairs." 1899 01:22:08,500 --> 01:22:10,875 (laughter) 1900 01:22:10,959 --> 01:22:12,542 And I was like, yeah. 1901 01:22:12,625 --> 01:22:15,125 I like that. It's true, you know? 1902 01:22:15,208 --> 01:22:18,417 And it was interesting to be able to help me 1903 01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:21,291 kind of appreciate my mother, 1904 01:22:21,375 --> 01:22:25,041 but also separate and appreciate myself, too. 1905 01:22:26,375 --> 01:22:27,792 -(applause) -Now with Mara Wilson. 1906 01:22:27,875 --> 01:22:30,583 You undoubtedly know her from "Mrs. Doubtfire," 1907 01:22:30,667 --> 01:22:32,750 "Matilda," many other movies. 1908 01:22:32,834 --> 01:22:35,667 She's now revealing though the ups and downs of childhood stardom 1909 01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:38,125 in her new book, "Where Am I Now?" 1910 01:22:38,208 --> 01:22:40,291 Mara: It wasn't really until I was in my 20s 1911 01:22:40,375 --> 01:22:42,959 and I was doing other things that I could finally 1912 01:22:43,041 --> 01:22:44,583 make peace with it. 1913 01:22:44,667 --> 01:22:45,917 And, eventually, 1914 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,458 I ended up writing a book about my life. 1915 01:22:48,542 --> 01:22:51,291 And I knew, I'd always known that I wanted to do that. 1916 01:22:51,375 --> 01:22:53,125 I understand you're thinking about becoming 1917 01:22:53,208 --> 01:22:55,542 -a screenwriter. A scriptwriter. -Scriptwriter. 1918 01:22:55,875 --> 01:22:58,083 You wrote a piece that was picked up in "The Huffington Post." 1919 01:22:58,166 --> 01:23:01,291 -Mm-hmm. -And it really was about childhood fame, 1920 01:23:01,375 --> 01:23:03,417 -and in it... -Mara: There's a lot that I still want to do, 1921 01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:05,834 and I'm not limiting myself, I think, into it, 1922 01:23:05,917 --> 01:23:09,417 but for many reasons, I probably won't be, you know, a screen actor, 1923 01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:12,291 you know, a big star like that, ever again. 1924 01:23:12,375 --> 01:23:15,125 And I'm okay with that. I mean, I have this... 1925 01:23:15,208 --> 01:23:17,500 I have a very devoted fan group, and that's nice. 1926 01:23:17,583 --> 01:23:21,166 I haven't done a Disney project in over a year now. 1927 01:23:21,250 --> 01:23:23,500 The people who watch me are still, 1928 01:23:23,583 --> 01:23:25,000 a lot of the times, really young. 1929 01:23:25,083 --> 01:23:27,125 I still wanna be a good example, and I still wanna-- 1930 01:23:27,208 --> 01:23:29,542 But at the same time, right now, I'm doing a show about porn. 1931 01:23:29,625 --> 01:23:31,875 And, like, I love that shit. Like, I'm-- 1932 01:23:31,959 --> 01:23:33,792 That's what I'm supposed to be doing. 1933 01:23:33,875 --> 01:23:36,500 I'm an actor, and I wanna do cool stuff. 1934 01:23:36,583 --> 01:23:38,709 So, it's a weird balance, like, 1935 01:23:38,792 --> 01:23:41,291 when you are... 1936 01:23:41,375 --> 01:23:43,166 trying to break out of something, 1937 01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:44,583 but I also feel the responsibility of being 1938 01:23:44,667 --> 01:23:48,041 an example for these kids, and I take that seriously, you know? 1939 01:23:48,917 --> 01:23:51,333 How do I marry what I'm actually doing 1940 01:23:51,417 --> 01:23:52,667 and what I actually wanna be doing 1941 01:23:52,750 --> 01:23:55,542 with what people wanna see from me 1942 01:23:55,625 --> 01:23:58,542 and what people expect of me, um, 1943 01:23:58,625 --> 01:24:00,917 and those two things are not the same. 1944 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,041 -(set chatter) -Man: Show me minimum focus. 1945 01:24:04,125 --> 01:24:05,875 Directors: Action! 1946 01:24:05,959 --> 01:24:07,417 Evan: I'm just gonna go ahead and say 1947 01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:08,792 I was bred to do this. 1948 01:24:08,875 --> 01:24:11,709 It was about good work, and it was about working with good people, 1949 01:24:11,792 --> 01:24:14,000 but it was also about saying something 1950 01:24:14,083 --> 01:24:17,166 about something that you believed in, or moving people. 1951 01:24:17,959 --> 01:24:20,375 And it's one of the reasons why I did films like "Thirteen," 1952 01:24:20,458 --> 01:24:23,375 and why my parents allowed me to do films like that 1953 01:24:23,458 --> 01:24:25,750 because they understood the value of 1954 01:24:25,834 --> 01:24:27,208 showing something that was real 1955 01:24:27,291 --> 01:24:29,000 that a lot of people don't wanna look at. 1956 01:24:29,083 --> 01:24:34,000 And that's absolutely carried over into my activism. 1957 01:24:34,083 --> 01:24:36,709 I now recognize our first witness. We'll go in this order. 1958 01:24:36,792 --> 01:24:38,750 Ms. Wood, if you would, thank you. 1959 01:24:38,834 --> 01:24:41,250 I'm here today to use my position as an artist, survivor, 1960 01:24:41,333 --> 01:24:44,083 mother, and advocate to bring a human voice to the population 1961 01:24:44,166 --> 01:24:46,750 of 25 million survivors in the US 1962 01:24:46,834 --> 01:24:49,125 who are currently experiencing inequality under the law, 1963 01:24:49,208 --> 01:24:51,417 and who desperately need basic civil rights. 1964 01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:55,417 We need to pass the Sexual Assault Survivor Bill of Rights in all 50 states. 1965 01:24:55,500 --> 01:24:57,208 We've done this in nine so far, 1966 01:24:57,291 --> 01:25:00,417 and it's our job to make sure that survivors in the remaining 41 1967 01:25:00,500 --> 01:25:02,583 are treated with the same humanity and dignity. 1968 01:25:02,667 --> 01:25:06,375 And this is called progress and it starts here. Thank you. 1969 01:25:06,834 --> 01:25:10,250 I gave up my childhood for this industry, 1970 01:25:10,333 --> 01:25:12,417 and it wasn't my choice. Right? 1971 01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:15,083 I mean, it is what it is. I really like my life. 1972 01:25:15,166 --> 01:25:16,750 I have a really good life. 1973 01:25:16,834 --> 01:25:18,458 "Your friend, Wil Wheaton." 1974 01:25:19,542 --> 01:25:22,417 It's my last one. I want you to have it. 1975 01:25:24,542 --> 01:25:27,917 -Look, everyone! Wil Wheaton is my friend! -(laughter) 1976 01:25:28,417 --> 01:25:30,458 Wil: I have an amazing family, 1977 01:25:30,542 --> 01:25:32,792 and I am a successful writer, 1978 01:25:32,875 --> 01:25:35,625 and-- and, like, I'm good at being an actor. 1979 01:25:35,709 --> 01:25:37,125 It's not my first choice. 1980 01:25:37,208 --> 01:25:38,834 It's not, like, what gets me out of bed, 1981 01:25:38,917 --> 01:25:40,750 but when someone's like, "We need an actor for this," 1982 01:25:40,834 --> 01:25:42,834 I'm like, "I can do that." Right? (laughs) 1983 01:25:42,917 --> 01:25:46,000 I just developed that skill, you know? 1984 01:25:46,083 --> 01:25:48,291 But when I tried to talk to my parents about it, 1985 01:25:48,375 --> 01:25:50,417 and tried to... 1986 01:25:51,375 --> 01:25:53,959 express how I felt, 1987 01:25:54,041 --> 01:25:56,458 and-- and express my sense of loss 1988 01:25:56,542 --> 01:25:58,709 and express my sense of... 1989 01:25:59,542 --> 01:26:02,083 not having... 1990 01:26:02,750 --> 01:26:05,291 not having these things that I wanted and needed, 1991 01:26:05,375 --> 01:26:06,917 they weren't able to hear it. 1992 01:26:08,125 --> 01:26:10,208 (birds chirping) 1993 01:26:13,792 --> 01:26:16,667 Melanie: As a mother, it almost makes me feel like 1994 01:26:16,750 --> 01:26:18,542 did I not do something right? 1995 01:26:18,625 --> 01:26:21,333 Or why didn't I think to do that, 1996 01:26:21,417 --> 01:26:23,542 as far as Marc's career is concerned. 1997 01:26:23,625 --> 01:26:25,500 She always does everything right. 1998 01:26:25,583 --> 01:26:27,333 (laughs) Thanks. 1999 01:26:27,417 --> 01:26:28,709 To you, I hope so. 2000 01:26:28,792 --> 01:26:31,166 But it, it does make you think. 2001 01:26:31,250 --> 01:26:34,041 Could I have gone that extra mile as a mom 2002 01:26:34,125 --> 01:26:38,208 to maybe get him seen by somebody. 2003 01:26:38,291 --> 01:26:41,625 But we still, we're gonna do pilot season again next year, 2004 01:26:41,709 --> 01:26:43,834 and depending on how that goes, 2005 01:26:43,917 --> 01:26:47,166 we possibly could do episodic season in the fall. 2006 01:26:47,250 --> 01:26:49,500 It's really more about persistence 2007 01:26:49,583 --> 01:26:52,041 than it is about being lucky, you know. 2008 01:26:52,125 --> 01:26:53,542 Everybody else thinks it's lucky 2009 01:26:53,625 --> 01:26:56,208 until you've actually been there, and then it's just, 2010 01:26:56,291 --> 01:26:58,375 you know, one really good day 2011 01:26:58,458 --> 01:27:00,542 after a lot of days of hard work. 2012 01:27:00,625 --> 01:27:01,625 Mmm. 2013 01:27:02,625 --> 01:27:05,625 (street chatter) 2014 01:27:08,667 --> 01:27:10,208 Hello, Erin? 2015 01:27:10,291 --> 01:27:12,291 -Erin (on phone): Yeah? -Is there any homework? 2016 01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:15,458 Interviewer: So you said you wanted to go to summer camp. 2017 01:27:16,417 --> 01:27:18,542 -Did you get to go? -Yeah, no. 2018 01:27:18,625 --> 01:27:20,041 -No. -Were you disappointed? 2019 01:27:20,125 --> 01:27:22,917 A little bit. A little bit 'cause most of my friends 2020 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,000 are going to sleepaway camp for the whole summer. 2021 01:27:26,125 --> 01:27:28,750 But, I've been auditioning over the summer. 2022 01:27:28,834 --> 01:27:31,250 I really just really, really, really wanna 2023 01:27:31,333 --> 01:27:34,917 become a well-known actress and really get my, you know. 2024 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,458 When I was little, I used to always want 2025 01:27:36,542 --> 01:27:38,583 my name on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 2026 01:27:38,667 --> 01:27:40,917 I used to be like, "I want my name to be on one of the stars," 2027 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,875 so that's something I really wanna do. 2028 01:27:42,959 --> 01:27:46,083 I wanna become, like, a legacy and inspire other people 2029 01:27:46,166 --> 01:27:47,875 to do what they love. 2030 01:27:47,959 --> 01:27:49,917 That's my deepest dream, 2031 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,000 to do something for someone else. 2032 01:27:53,625 --> 01:27:55,917 You face Roscoe! I'll face... 2033 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,208 -I'll face this guy. -(children chattering) 2034 01:27:58,291 --> 01:28:00,250 Three, two, one! (exclaims) 2035 01:28:00,333 --> 01:28:02,417 (toys rattling) 2036 01:28:02,500 --> 01:28:05,792 -And rip! -Gary Coleman: If someone had told me 2037 01:28:05,875 --> 01:28:08,166 that, uh, my life 2038 01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:11,625 would've been like this early enough where I coulda got out, 2039 01:28:11,709 --> 01:28:13,125 I woulda got out. I'd say, uh, no. 2040 01:28:13,208 --> 01:28:15,333 Have a normal life, 2041 01:28:15,417 --> 01:28:17,917 -and have friends. -(chattering) 2042 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,625 It's a half kid because I still think about that. 2043 01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:23,083 That's something that I fantasize about. 2044 01:28:23,166 --> 01:28:26,250 ♪ ♪ 2045 01:28:26,875 --> 01:28:30,792 I find it very... scary, 2046 01:28:30,875 --> 01:28:33,208 and I would not want my kids 2047 01:28:33,875 --> 01:28:37,709 to pursue a career as a-- as a child. 2048 01:28:38,542 --> 01:28:41,583 'Cause I just find that it's so disruptive, you know? 2049 01:28:41,667 --> 01:28:44,667 -Milla: Yes, my love. -My toe hurts. 2050 01:28:44,750 --> 01:28:47,750 Milla: Your toe hurts. What part of your toe hurts? 2051 01:28:47,834 --> 01:28:50,000 My daughter, my eldest, 2052 01:28:50,083 --> 01:28:52,625 who's now 11, when she was four years old, 2053 01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:56,291 she said, "Mommy, I wanna be on TV." 2054 01:28:56,375 --> 01:28:59,834 My instincts are going, "You think you want this, 2055 01:28:59,917 --> 01:29:02,917 "but if I allow you to do this, 2056 01:29:03,875 --> 01:29:05,208 you're not gonna like it." 2057 01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:09,500 I don't know. I guess it really is one of those things where, like, 2058 01:29:09,583 --> 01:29:13,959 she wants to be an actress, and I wanna help her do what she loves to do 2059 01:29:14,041 --> 01:29:17,375 because she's really got a natural ability for it. 2060 01:29:17,458 --> 01:29:19,458 But, you're young. You don't need to, like, 2061 01:29:19,542 --> 01:29:21,458 do a bunch of movies right now. 2062 01:29:21,542 --> 01:29:23,834 Like, what you need right now is to 2063 01:29:23,917 --> 01:29:26,458 become strong. Like... 2064 01:29:26,542 --> 01:29:30,875 You need to be like a ship with full sails, 2065 01:29:30,959 --> 01:29:33,709 with a crew that knows how to navigate. 2066 01:29:33,792 --> 01:29:35,625 Like, I want you to be so strong. 2067 01:29:36,458 --> 01:29:38,583 Todd: My son was in the business originally, 2068 01:29:38,667 --> 01:29:40,375 and not anymore. 2069 01:29:40,458 --> 01:29:42,875 But I was like, time to get him out, like, "You need to get out." 2070 01:29:42,959 --> 01:29:44,667 You know, because it's great to a child. 2071 01:29:44,750 --> 01:29:46,333 You build a nice bank account for when you get older, 2072 01:29:46,417 --> 01:29:48,250 but you don't wanna stay in this business. 2073 01:29:48,333 --> 01:29:51,208 I got him in a business that's reliable and great 2074 01:29:51,291 --> 01:29:53,208 and, you know, make a lot of money 2075 01:29:53,291 --> 01:29:54,709 and his name won't even be talked about, 2076 01:29:54,792 --> 01:29:56,500 which is great. 2077 01:29:56,583 --> 01:29:59,333 I feel like a role model 'cause I'm a mom, um, 2078 01:29:59,417 --> 01:30:00,875 so that's really changed me... 2079 01:30:00,959 --> 01:30:04,709 Interviewer: You managed to keep your son completely off of the internet. 2080 01:30:04,792 --> 01:30:06,959 -Yeah. -Like, totally absent. 2081 01:30:07,583 --> 01:30:10,917 It's been a very conscious decision, um. 2082 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,291 I think because of the way I was raised, 2083 01:30:13,375 --> 01:30:15,625 I just don't wanna do anything that he doesn't have a say in yet. 2084 01:30:15,709 --> 01:30:17,208 If he doesn't wanna be a public figure, 2085 01:30:17,291 --> 01:30:18,750 if he doesn't want his image out there, 2086 01:30:18,834 --> 01:30:20,792 I didn't wanna put it out there for him. 2087 01:30:20,875 --> 01:30:23,250 Also, there's just a lot of creeps. 2088 01:30:23,333 --> 01:30:25,291 (laughs) So... 2089 01:30:25,375 --> 01:30:28,458 (acoustic guitar playing) 2090 01:30:38,959 --> 01:30:41,125 (trampoline bouncing) 2091 01:30:41,208 --> 01:30:45,500 ♪ ♪ 2092 01:30:49,875 --> 01:30:52,750 Henry: Now, as an adult and as a parent, 2093 01:30:52,834 --> 01:30:55,083 you look at all of the ways that 2094 01:30:55,166 --> 01:30:58,208 it takes a kid out of their world. 2095 01:30:59,709 --> 01:31:03,333 And it's nice to be a kid, 2096 01:31:03,417 --> 01:31:06,458 and it's nice to have a childhood that's a childhood, 2097 01:31:06,542 --> 01:31:08,834 completely unto itself. 2098 01:31:08,917 --> 01:31:14,000 (guitar continues) 2099 01:31:45,083 --> 01:31:48,125 (wind blowing) 2100 01:31:53,875 --> 01:31:54,750 Man: Yeah! 2101 01:31:54,834 --> 01:31:58,083 ("At a Distance" by Jeff Tweedy playing) 2102 01:32:10,542 --> 01:32:12,583 ♪ On the horizon ♪ 2103 01:32:13,792 --> 01:32:16,250 ♪ Behind the trees ♪ 2104 01:32:17,458 --> 01:32:19,291 ♪ Something's missing ♪ 2105 01:32:23,458 --> 01:32:26,792 ♪ There's something I can't see ♪ 2106 01:32:29,959 --> 01:32:33,750 ♪ And something's missing in me ♪ 2107 01:32:39,625 --> 01:32:41,959 ♪ Over the ocean ♪ 2108 01:32:42,834 --> 01:32:44,959 ♪ To some degree ♪ 2109 01:32:46,458 --> 01:32:49,583 ♪ I'm the same as I ♪ 2110 01:32:49,667 --> 01:32:51,750 ♪ Used to be ♪ 2111 01:32:52,959 --> 01:32:57,291 ♪ At a distance, I'm still me ♪ 2112 01:33:03,959 --> 01:33:06,667 ♪ Before I switch off ♪ 2113 01:33:07,166 --> 01:33:09,208 ♪ Before I go ♪ 2114 01:33:10,333 --> 01:33:12,750 ♪ Before you drift off ♪ 2115 01:33:12,834 --> 01:33:15,333 ♪ Into the unknown ♪ 2116 01:33:16,792 --> 01:33:18,834 ♪ Uncharted waters ♪ 2117 01:33:19,959 --> 01:33:22,166 ♪ Forgotten dreams ♪ 2118 01:33:23,500 --> 01:33:25,417 ♪ Missing moments ♪ 2119 01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:29,000 ♪ Where they all come back to me ♪ 2120 01:33:35,959 --> 01:33:38,333 ♪ On the horizon ♪ 2121 01:33:39,166 --> 01:33:41,208 ♪ Underneath my shoes ♪ 2122 01:33:42,208 --> 01:33:44,750 ♪ Still I'm bewildered ♪ 2123 01:33:44,834 --> 01:33:47,667 ♪ By the world I'm walking through ♪ 2124 01:33:49,208 --> 01:33:51,709 ♪ Something's missing ♪ 2125 01:34:09,834 --> 01:34:12,875 ♪ ♪