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[Stephen Hawking]<i> A black hole</i>
<i>is stranger than anything</i>

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<i>dreamed up by science fiction writers.</i>

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<i>A region of space</i>

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<i>where gravity is so strong</i>

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<i>that nothing can escape.</i>

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<i>Once you are over the edge,</i>

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<i>there's no way back.</i>

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[rooster crows]

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-[dog barking]
-[bells clanging]

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[birds chirping]

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[coyote barking]

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[horn honking]

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Wow.

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It never ceases to get me,
seeing these two mountains up here.

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It's a bit deceptive.

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It looks as though you can just hike up
there in a couple of hours.

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But that is a big
elevation shift from where we are now.

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[Shep Doeleman]
<i>I was not a boy astronomer,</i>

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<i>I didn't have a telescope growing up...</i>

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<i>but I do remember seeing</i>
<i>what a black hole was.</i>

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<i>I thought there are</i>
<i>very interesting things</i>

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<i>in the universe to be explored.</i>

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<i>The Event Horizon Telescope</i>
<i>is a new instrument</i>

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<i>that a global team is assembling...</i>

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<i>that will have</i>
<i>the magnifying power to resolve</i>

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<i>the region immediately</i>
<i>around a black hole.</i>

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<i>That's never been done before.</i>

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<i>We are chasing down</i>
<i>something that struggles</i>

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<i>with all of its might to be unseen.</i>

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<i>And we're saying "we're gonna catch you".</i>

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When you get to about 15,000 feet,

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you're-you're above
quite a bit of the atmosphere.

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<i>You really need to be above</i>
<i>the atmosphere to see through</i>

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<i>to the emptiness of space.</i>

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<i>The goal of the Event Horizon Telescope</i>

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<i>is really easy to state,</i>

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<i>we're gonna take</i>
<i>the first picture of a black hole.</i>

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{\an8}What I had yesterday as of noon,

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was every part of the system
of the front end working...

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[Shep]<i> We've come to</i>
<i>the LMT here in January</i>

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<i>specifically to do</i>
<i>what's called a dry run.</i>

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<i>And we're discovering problems.</i>

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Then, we tried to replace the Gunn,
now we've lost power,

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and that's what we're
troubleshooting upstairs now.

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Today I'm going to try to get
the Gunn working again, the old Gunn...

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[Shep] But if we went back
to this old Gunn...

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-then...
-Yeah.

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we're still compatible with the EHT...

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-By doing a double-down conversion. Yes.
-for January and April.

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April is when we're going to have
all the telescopes around the world,

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the full EHT working,

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and it's our best shot
at imaging a black hole.

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But before we get there, we've got
to make sure that everything is working.

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So the first goal is to try to get
the 232.1 gigahertz

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-working again with the old Gunn.
-Yeah. right.

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If that doesn't work...

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-My plan B... My plan B...
-then what?

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is that... [audio fades out]

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[birds chirping]

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[Gopal]<i> The larger the telescope,</i>
<i>the better it's able to see tiny objects.</i>

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{\an8}To resolve the black hole
in the center of our galaxy

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{\an8}or the bigger black hole in M87,

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{\an8}we need a telescope
nearly the size of the earth.

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<i>Well, that's clearly impossible.</i>

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<i>So we do the next best thing.</i>

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<i>We take telescopes</i>
<i>scattered around the world</i>

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<i>and make them all look simultaneously</i>
<i>at the black hole.</i>

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[Shep]<i> Imagine taking a mirror</i>

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<i>and smashing it with a hammer</i>

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<i>and distributing these shards</i>
<i>all over the world.</i>

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And then recording what happens
on each of those shards

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and then bringing them together

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and reconstructing that mirror
in a supercomputer.

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That's what the
Event Horizon Telescope is doing.

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<i>So at every site,</i>
<i>everything has to work perfectly.</i>

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I think this thing took quite a hit.

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In shipping?

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If it turns on and it smokes then
we'll know there's something wrong.

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Yeah.

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[Shep]<i> We still have to make some tests.</i>

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<i>Tomorrow we are going to trigger</i>
<i>a real observation.</i>

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<i>And that's gonna involve</i>
<i>the South Pole, Spain, Chile,</i>

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<i>and God willing, the LMT.</i>

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[producer]
You've got a clock ticking.

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I know.

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Cue the Mission Impossible theme.

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[Gopal]<i> Look at-- That's the telescope,</i>
<i>buried underneath that</i>

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uh, S-H-I-T, if I may say so.

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Wait, what happened here?

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-What-What happened?
-Weather happened to us.

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Wait, you're shitting me.

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Last 16 hours it's been beautiful

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and as soon as we come up,
like the gods hammer us?

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<i>That's crap.</i>

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[Gopal]<i> Well we can't point and focus</i>
<i>through this weather right now</i>

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[Shep] The schedule is supposed to start

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In 40 minutes...

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In, uh, 35 now.

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If we're still in the clouds
and it gets really cold,

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-it's going to be an ice situation.
-[Gopal] Yeah.

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That's a possibility.

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-[Gopal] That's what I'm worrying about.
-Yeah, I'm really worrying about that.

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Everybody cross their fingers,
use your favorite incantations,

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and we'll clear through this.

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[Shep] Okay, so we're gonna
set levels in the other room

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-and then we'll be ready to go.
-I need to adjust the power level

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of the upstairs a little bit.

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[Shep] You realize
that we're firing this thing off

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-in exactly 14 minutes and 15 seconds.
-[Gopal] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know but...

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Ah, jeez.

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Did you say 65-73?

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So it's RCP and LCP high, right?

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We got one minute.

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[Gopal] Here we go, people,
hold onto your hats.

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Okay, we're ready.

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[Gopal] Four, three, two, one, zero!

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Blast off.

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[Ramesh Narayan]<i> Oh boy.</i>

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<i>What is a black hole?</i>

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<i>It is so deep,</i>

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<i>it's so hard to fully appreciate</i>
<i>all of the physics that's going on.</i>

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<i>You can spend your life studying this.</i>

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Imagine an object
where gravity has become so strong

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it has compressed all of the material

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with which it started down into a point.

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<i>This object develops</i>
<i>what's called an event horizon.</i>

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<i>And this event horizon</i>
<i>has this amazing property</i>

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<i>that it's a one-way street.</i>

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<i>You can go from the outside to the inside,</i>
<i>but nothing will ever get out.</i>

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The gravitational pull is so strong

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that anything that comes close enough
to it will just vanish inside.

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<i>If something disappears</i>
<i>over the event horizon it's gone.</i>

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<i>And we no longer</i>
<i>have any knowledge of it.</i>

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<i>It is no longer detectable,</i>
<i>it's no longer knowable.</i>

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It might still exist,

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it might not still exist,
we have no way of knowing.

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<i>We have a contact</i>
<i>with a kind of phenomenon</i>

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<i>that we don't fully understand.</i>

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[Janna Levin]<i> It's like a vortex</i>
<i>in the universe in space and time.</i>

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The darkest object we can imagine
mathematically fundamentally

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emits no light, reflects no light.

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<i>But it becomes the engine</i>

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<i>of the most powerful events</i>
<i>we now observe in the universe.</i>

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<i>There's something about them</i>

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<i>that really pushes the mind. [laughs]</i>

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[Hawking] Can you hear me?

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[audience] Yes.

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It is said that fact
is sometimes stranger than fiction,

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but nowhere is that more true
than in the case of black holes.

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Currently I'm working
with my Cambridge colleague Malcolm Perry,

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and Andy Strominger from Harvard,

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on a new theory to explain the mechanism

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by which information is returned
out of the black hole.

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Watch this space...

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[Andy Strominger]<i> I met Stephen in 1982.</i>

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<i>Over the years we coincided on a number</i>
<i>of topics, a surprising number,</i>

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<i>but the very kind of intense thing</i>
<i>that's grown over the last,</i>

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-what is it now, three years? Yeah.
-Three years. Yeah.

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Has been a whole new, wonderful level.

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-[Malcolm]<i> And quite different.</i>
<i>-</i>[Andy]<i> Quite different, yeah.</i>

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[Malcolm]<i> It was a fabulous warm day,</i>

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kind of unusual in England for April,

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so we had a lecture outside.

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<i>This was in a place</i>
<i>called Great Brampton House.</i>

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[Andy]<i> For the last 10 years, Stephen</i>
<i>and friends organized a small retreat.</i>

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<i>I had these ideas about</i>

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the structure
of the edges of infinity and...

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how they could store information.

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[Malcolm]<i> I was simply listening</i>
<i>to this lecture and I felt</i>

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<i>that the phenomenon he was describing</i>

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could be happening
on the surface of the black hole.

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[Andy]<i> Stephen picked up</i>
<i>on that immediately.</i>

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He said, this is it, this is the piece
that we've been missing.

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<i>He is very eager to unravel the paradox</i>

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<i>that he unleashed on the world in 1975.</i>

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{\an8}[Malcolm]<i> Something called</i>
<i>the information paradox,</i>

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{\an8}which basically says that black holes
annihilate information,

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{\an8}<i>which should not be possible.</i>
<i>That's the paradox.</i>

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<i>It implies that there's a breakdown</i>

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<i>of laws of physics</i>
<i>in the presence of black holes.</i>

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[Sasha Haco]<i> This is why</i>
<i>we're chasing this problem,</i>

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because if information is lost,
then that contradicts

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almost everything we know about physics.

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<i>Something's gone wrong</i>
<i>understanding how black holes work.</i>

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From the outside you can't tell
what is inside a black hole.

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When you look at a black hole,
all you can tell about it

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are its mass, its charge
and its state of rotation.

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And that's the same for any black hole
no matter what it was made out of.

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This means that a black hole contains
a lot of information

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that is hidden from the outside world.

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That was a very weird thing people
to get to grips with and then

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Stephen Hawking made
this amazing discovery

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of Hawking Radiation, that says actually

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stuff comes out of a black hole,

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<i>and that's where</i>
<i>the problem really started.</i>

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{\an8}[Laura Ruetsche]<i> It turns out</i>
<i>they're not black, they radiate.</i>

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<i>And as they radiate they lose mass</i>
<i>and eventually disappear.</i>

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<i>An equivalent mass of elephants</i>
<i>could form a black hole,</i>

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an equivalent mass of Encyclopedia
Britannica could form a black hole.

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The black hole evaporates
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is the same sea of Hawking Radiation.

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It appears that the information
about what fell in is lost.

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The particles that
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seem to be completely random

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<i>and to bear no relation to what fell in.</i>

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[Andy]<i> If what Hawking said were correct,</i>
<i>it can spit out anything.</i>

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It can spit out a piano,
it can spit out a trombone, it--

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It can-- Anything can come out.

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<i>That means that</i>
<i>the basic nature of the universe</i>

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<i>is just random.</i>

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<i>There aren't really physical laws</i>
<i>which govern the entire universe.</i>

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<i>This is every physicist's nightmare.</i>

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[James Weatherall]
<i>Much of our knowledge of the universe</i>

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<i>is grounded on</i>

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<i>our belief that we can reliably predict</i>
<i>using the laws of nature.</i>

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We have a physical theory,
we make predictions using that theory,

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we do experiments or observations
to see if those predictions were realized.

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<i>We understand the early universe</i>
<i>by using the laws of physics</i>

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<i>to predict backwards and say</i>
<i>what the world must have been like.</i>

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<i>If those laws break down,</i>

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<i>it's about the limits of knowledge.</i>

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<i>What sorts of things</i>
<i>could we possibly know about the world?</i>

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[Hawking]<i> If the predictability</i>
<i>of the universe</i>

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<i>breaks down with black holes,</i>

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<i>it could break down in other situations.</i>

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<i>Even worse, if information is lost,</i>

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<i>we can't be sure</i>
<i>of our past history either.</i>

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The history books and our memories
could just be illusions.

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It is the past that tells us who we are.

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Without it we lose our identity.

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[dishes clattering]

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[mixing]

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[Andy]<i> Since I was a graduate student,</i>
<i>the information paradox</i>

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<i>has been central in my thinking.</i>

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<i>It's a sort of 24/7 thing.</i>

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<i>I get up, I make myself a cup of coffee,</i>
<i>I sit down with a pad of paper.</i>

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<i>I'm thinking about it</i>
<i>when I brush my teeth,</i>

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<i>dream about it.</i>

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<i>It is the most interesting,</i>
<i>well-posed question</i>

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<i>in modern physics.</i>

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So interesting that

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I was ready to devote my life
to trying to understand it.

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[indistinct chatter]

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[indistinct chatter]

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[Andy]<i> In the 40 years</i>
<i>since Hawking's argument...</i>

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By the way,
while, while Malcolm's erasing...

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[Andy]<i> There's certainly been</i>
<i>thousands of papers</i>

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<i>about how the paradox might be avoided.</i>

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[indistinct chatter]

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None of them has gained

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universal acceptance

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and they all are problematic
in one way or another.

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So the magical formula I think

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-I could write out in excruciating detail.
-[Andy] Yeah.

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So while Malcolm's writing, um...

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what we've done
is first of all worked out...

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<i>But now, Stephen, Malcolm</i>
<i>and I have found a mechanism</i>

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by which the information paradox
might possibly be resolved.

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-[beeps]
-Wow. Seems very exciting.

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It's the beginning of something deep,
we really quite don't know what...

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[Andy]<i> Investigating this</i>
<i>is vigorously underway now.</i>

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-But central terms of what...
-[Hawking] What is the super rotation?

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So, the super rotations,
so ordinary BMS group

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Physics is about finding the truth

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about the universe.

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<i>We might not ever get all of it...</i>

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This then gives us a conservation law...

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but I think
there's a good shot that, uh,

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in my lifetime, we'll nail this one.

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And so that's conservation
of super rotation charge.

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Now, let me erase here...

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[Heino Falcke]<i> Seeing is believing.</i>

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<i>That's the most credible and the most</i>
<i>powerful sense that we have.</i>

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<i>We need to see things.</i>

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<i>We long to see things.</i>

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In my mind, like for 10 years,
there's no question there is a black hole

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and there's no question it's possible.
I still want to see that stupid image.

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I want to see it.

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[Dimitrios Psaltis] We have never actually
seen the telltale sign of the black hole

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which is that virtual region, the horizon,
from which not even light can escape.

283
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<i>With the Event Horizon Telescope</i>
<i>we're going to zoom</i>

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<i>all the way to the size of the horizon,</i>

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<i>and see if it will cast</i>
<i>a silhouette, will cast a shadow.</i>

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[Shep]<i> The Event Horizon Telescope</i>
<i>is the culmination</i>

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<i>of really decades of work.</i>

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[Shep]<i> Once we began</i>
<i>to realize that we could make an image,</i>

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<i>that became fascinating.</i>

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<i>So over the past years</i>
<i>we've gone to new sites,</i>

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{\an8}<i>and we've had to convince those</i>
<i>new sites that the science is worthy.</i>

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We've had to develop
and install very specialized

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and expensive equipment
at all of these sites

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{\an8}<i>in all of these extreme places.</i>

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We are now at the moment when
we'll be doing our first observing

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with the chance of making an image.

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[Feryal Ozel]
<i>That's still a question mark but</i>

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-local wisdom is a go.
-[Dimitrios] Yeah.

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SPT weather good, no-go for pointing.

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[Feryal Ozel] Pointing issues.

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SMT technically ready, weather forecast

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possible of high wind
but unlikely to cause anything.

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[Feryal] So night's outlook
is good, right?

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[Dimitrios] Yes.

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We set up telescopes around the earth
that can talk to each other,

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that can record data in tandem,

307
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<i>so after the fact</i>
<i>we can combine these data</i>

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<i>and make it act like</i>
<i>they were actually one telescope.</i>

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<i>Right now, the Event Horizon Telescope</i>
<i>is an array</i>

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<i>of eight dishes across the globe</i>

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<i>from the South Pole</i>
<i>to the Arizona desert to Hawaii to Chile</i>

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<i>creating, effectively,</i>
<i>an earth-sized telescope.</i>

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{\an8}[Dimitrios]
Weather forecast is good for Pico.

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{\an8}[Feryal] I mean, they say excellent, so...

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{\an8}-[Shep] Looks pretty good to me.
-[Feryal] I'm changing this to .2...

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I'd like to see the LMT water vapor map.

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[indistinct chatter]

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[Shep]<i> When you have a single facility,</i>

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it's the weather above that one telescope

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that has to be perfect
for a night's observing.

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Now imagine you need perfect weather
at every single site around the array.

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By the time we start observing,
it's going to have moved past

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but we don't know
what else is going to move in.

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Seems to be accelerating.

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-Right.
-So SMT is getting worse.

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[Shep] So what are the pinch points here?

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It's really just LMT and SMT,

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and we're gonna have to make
a decision based... at South Pole,

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just based on what we know now
which is they might have pointing issues.

330
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LMT, how worried are you
about the maser?

331
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I'm a little worried about the maser

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just because we haven't done
some of the tests that would let us...

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see how good it is.

334
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-Shep, it's 3:30, we have half an hour.
-Yeah.

335
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Should we call it?

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[hesitant noise]

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I basically think
that we should trigger for tonight.

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I think it's probably
the best weather we're gonna get,

339
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technical issues are breaking our way.

340
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I mean, of all the nights
to have a question mark

341
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by South Pole this is the one to have it.

342
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[Dimitrios] Yeah.

343
00:24:15,078 --> 00:24:16,037
Um...

344
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We'll get some pretty good
M87 scans, one hopes, right?

345
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[general agreement]

346
00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:25,922
So let it be written, so let it be done.

347
00:24:26,673 --> 00:24:29,551
I will make the decision,
I will broadcast it.

348
00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:32,304
Night five, track D is a go!

349
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[Dimitrios] May all future nights
be as good as this one.

350
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[Shep]<i> And then, all around the world,</i>

351
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<i>all the telescopes swivel at the same time</i>

352
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<i>and we will begin to record photons</i>
<i>from the black hole.</i>

353
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[Feryal]<i> How big a black hole looks</i>
<i>in the sky is a combination of its mass</i>

354
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<i>and how far away it is.</i>

355
00:25:07,422 --> 00:25:10,967
<i>The black hole at the center</i>
<i>of our galaxy, Sagittarius A*,</i>

356
00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:15,597
has the largest angular size in the sky
followed by M87.

357
00:25:16,598 --> 00:25:19,726
<i>M87's black hole</i>
<i>is a thousand times bigger</i>

358
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<i>but roughly a thousand times farther away.</i>

359
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<i>They turn out to have</i>
<i>pretty comparable sizes in the sky.</i>

360
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This is central command,
it's always manned 24/7.

361
00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:40,956
Uh, people write in and they say
I'm having an emergency with

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one of my recorders,
or my receiver, or something.

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We hope to be bored.

364
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{\an8}We hope that there's nothing to do

365
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:51,633
{\an8}and that everything is going smoothly
and that nothing goes wrong.

366
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But you know, we're here just in case.

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We've just finished Day Three
of the EHT observations.

368
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It's been unprecedented.

369
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We triggered three consecutive
nights of observing

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and that's because
the weather has been phenomenal.

371
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And the team is quite tired

372
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because we've been working
round the clock for three days.

373
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They're at high altitude sites,

374
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they're paying
a lot of attention to detail,

375
00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:20,453
they're under a lot of stress,

376
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they're trying to run down problems,

377
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and we're pushing people
to the limit at this point.

378
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[birds chirping]

379
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[vehicle honks]

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[Atish Kamble]<i> Final scan</i>
<i>of Sagittarius A* begins.</i>

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This is it, oh yeah,
so this is it. The final scan

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of the 2017 observations

383
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on Sagittarius A*.

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["Over the Rainbow" by Israel
Kamakawiwoole begins playing]

385
00:27:01,619 --> 00:27:07,542
♪<i> Somewhere over the rainbow </i>♪

386
00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:11,629
<i>♪ Bluebirds fly ♪</i>

387
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,757
-Did you write that "woohoo"?
-Yup.

388
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,261
[singing along]
<i>♪ Dreams that you dream of ♪</i>

389
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{\an8}<i>♪ Dreams really do come true-ooh-ooh ♪</i>

390
00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:29,481
{\an8}<i>♪ Someday I'll wish upon a star ♪</i>

391
00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:36,988
{\an8}<i>♪ Wake up where</i>
<i>the clouds are far behind me ♪</i>

392
00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:39,032
<i>♪ Where ♪</i>

393
00:27:39,115 --> 00:27:44,788
I think this song just really captures
how good it is to realize something

394
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that you've been working on for ages.

395
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[producer] How long?

396
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:53,755
I've been working on this for...

397
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I don't know, 20 years.

398
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Next at every EHT site, everybody
will pack up the hard disk drives

399
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carefully, very carefully,

400
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ship them back
to the central processing facility.

401
00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:14,943
Wait. Guys, we're done!

402
00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:18,780
We just finished...
We've finished the whole thing?

403
00:28:19,322 --> 00:28:21,324
We're done, it's a wrap!

404
00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:22,283
[clapping]

405
00:28:24,577 --> 00:28:27,122
We just finished the entire scan,

406
00:28:27,956 --> 00:28:31,709
and the entire schedule,
and the entire campaign,

407
00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:36,756
and the entire Event Horizon Telescope

408
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observations for this year.

409
00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,682
[Shep]<i> The great challenge</i>
<i>for the Event Horizon Telescope</i>

410
00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:49,394
is only when you get all the data back
to the central correlation facility

411
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do you truly know that everything worked.

412
00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:53,898
<i>And that will take over a month.</i>

413
00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:57,527
<i>Until then there's always this tension,</i>

414
00:28:57,986 --> 00:29:01,072
<i>there's always this slight uncertainty</i>
<i>that something's been overlooked.</i>

415
00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:08,663
So May, springtime, rebirth,
imaging black holes,

416
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,417
it's gonna be quite a summer,
I'll tell you that.

417
00:31:19,794 --> 00:31:20,962
[Lydia Patton]<i> It's been</i>
<i>a perennial question</i>

418
00:31:21,045 --> 00:31:22,547
<i>in the philosophy of science,</i>

419
00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:28,094
<i>if what we're primarily</i>
<i>interested in are phenomena</i>

420
00:31:28,177 --> 00:31:30,930
<i>as they can be detected experimentally,</i>

421
00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:36,519
how, in fact,

422
00:31:36,811 --> 00:31:39,898
do we come to have knowledge
about unobservable entities?

423
00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:57,040
{\an8}I've always had a pull
towards the invisible

424
00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:58,666
{\an8}and the mysterious.

425
00:31:59,959 --> 00:32:03,004
<i>I've sort of naturally gravitated</i>
<i>to black holes.</i>

426
00:32:06,382 --> 00:32:11,387
<i>But a black hole is very, very hard</i>
<i>to understand with just the equations.</i>

427
00:32:19,562 --> 00:32:23,566
If you really want to know anything
at any level of detail,

428
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,987
you're not going to do it
with just, just pure mathematics,

429
00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:29,113
it's not going to happen.

430
00:32:29,489 --> 00:32:31,741
You need to simulate it on a computer.

431
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:42,794
<i>You have what's called an accretion disk</i>
<i>that's orbiting the black hole.</i>

432
00:32:44,128 --> 00:32:45,088
<i>It's chaotic.</i>

433
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:51,844
<i>It's ionized gas,</i>
<i>it's got magnetic fields,</i>

434
00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:53,763
<i>the whole thing is churning.</i>

435
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,684
<i>The gas gets hot and then it radiates.</i>

436
00:33:02,438 --> 00:33:04,440
<i>That gets a little too complicated</i>

437
00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:07,193
<i>for a theorist to calculate</i>
<i>with pencil and paper.</i>

438
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:20,456
{\an8}[Priyamvada]<i> Simulations really</i>
<i>help us make what is invisible,</i>

439
00:33:21,082 --> 00:33:24,502
{\an8}<i>what is unseen, seen.</i>

440
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:44,647
{\an8}[birds chirping]

441
00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:57,785
-[Malcolm Perry] It must be Andy.
-[Sasha] Hiya.

442
00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:01,164
We have almost incredibly good news.

443
00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:03,166
-What?
-[indistinct chatter]

444
00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:05,168
But not quite.

445
00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:07,587
[Malcolm]
<i>There's a missing link somewhere.</i>

446
00:34:08,254 --> 00:34:10,673
If you don't worry about it
you get the right answer.

447
00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,717
[Andy] Oh well, I never worry, so...

448
00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:16,179
[Malcolm]<i> Once a year,</i>
<i>Stephen Hawking and his friends</i>

449
00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:19,599
<i>take over some house somewhere,</i>

450
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:23,144
where we can exchange ideas,
where we can have fun,

451
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,229
where we can go off into
the mountains and have a hike.

452
00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:26,355
Stephen arrived.

453
00:34:26,522 --> 00:34:28,316
-[Andy] Stephen's here, great.
-So if you go

454
00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:29,650
all the way that way,

455
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:30,735
-you can say hello to him.
-Okay.

456
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:32,737
[woman laughing]

457
00:34:33,029 --> 00:34:37,909
Stephen, Sasha, Malcolm and I found
a chink in the armor

458
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,578
of, uh... more than a chink,

459
00:34:40,661 --> 00:34:44,707
a huge gap in the armor
of the information paradox.

460
00:34:44,791 --> 00:34:47,126
-Why don't we use the blackboard in there.
-All right.

461
00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:48,669
[Andy]<i> The old story was...</i>

462
00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:53,925
<i>there just wasn't any way that</i>
<i>a black hole could store information,</i>

463
00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:55,676
<i>it was just a hole in space.</i>

464
00:34:57,762 --> 00:34:59,597
[Malcolm]<i> What we've discovered</i>
<i>is that the horizon</i>

465
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,016
<i>does have some properties</i>
<i>that encode information.</i>

466
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:07,105
Namely, the supertranslation
and the superrotation degrees of freedom<i>,</i>

467
00:35:07,188 --> 00:35:08,898
what we now call the "soft hair"

468
00:35:08,981 --> 00:35:10,775
-Okay.
-Uh oh, put it round.

469
00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:17,698
[Andy]<i> The hair is spread</i>
<i>around the horizon of the black hole.</i>

470
00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:20,785
When you throw
something into the black hole

471
00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,578
you change its hairdo.

472
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,957
So you start like this, you throw
something in, it goes like that.

473
00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:32,088
<i>We discovered there's a record</i>
<i>of what fell into the black hole.</i>

474
00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:37,969
<i>Some information</i>
<i>is definitely transferred.</i>

475
00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:43,683
<i>We don't know yet if all of it is.</i>

476
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:49,856
And that's really what we are currently
trying hard to investigate

477
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:50,857
-It looks like this.
-[Sasha Haco] Yeah.

478
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:53,067
It only contains, um, with two derivatives

479
00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:55,778
-in epsilon, so that'll vanish.
-Okay.

480
00:35:55,903 --> 00:35:59,073
We need to see if this soft hair
and these soft particles

481
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,159
can encode
all the information in a black hole.

482
00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:02,827
Okay, so we're not worried
about that term.

483
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:04,704
-[Malcolm] No.
-Did you look at that term, too?

484
00:36:05,204 --> 00:36:06,455
[Andy]<i> There's a formula,</i>

485
00:36:07,081 --> 00:36:10,835
{\an8}<i>by Bekenstein and Hawking</i>
<i>in the early '70s</i>

486
00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:14,255
for exactly how many

487
00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:18,843
gigabytes of information
can be stored in a black hole.

488
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,515
So the very first test,
which we have not yet passed,

489
00:36:25,933 --> 00:36:29,729
<i>is counting the information</i>
<i>using the soft hair</i>

490
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:35,109
<i>and showing that it gives</i>
<i>exactly the right answer.</i>

491
00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:41,199
[Sasha] If we can get
the central charge to be 12J,

492
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:43,201
information is not lost.

493
00:36:43,743 --> 00:36:45,203
Information is conserved,

494
00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:46,996
and that we'll be able to trace
this information

495
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,873
by looking at the horizon.

496
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:52,418
And we've spent about
three months getting zero,

497
00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:54,295
then another three months
getting infinity,

498
00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:56,214
and the last few weeks, Malcolm

499
00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:59,300
thought he got 12 and now we think
that's actually wrong again.

500
00:37:00,176 --> 00:37:02,303
<i>As of today, we have 12,</i>

501
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:05,223
<i>but with a dubious step.</i>

502
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,517
[Andy]<i> Are you saying</i>
<i>that that integration by parts</i>

503
00:37:08,601 --> 00:37:10,645
<i>was done to get this last formula?</i>

504
00:37:12,104 --> 00:37:13,105
I have a feeling.

505
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:17,818
Yeah, because there's no terms
with two derivatives on zeta.

506
00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:21,405
Well, the whole point was to get rid
of two derivative terms on zeta.

507
00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:24,533
But maybe they're really there.

508
00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:31,791
What-- Um, let's see, uh, okay.

509
00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:35,670
So I think we need to think
a little more about this. Um...

510
00:37:38,881 --> 00:37:40,883
[Andy] Oh, Stephen's here. Saved!

511
00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:42,802
[everyone laughing]

512
00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:44,887
-[Andy] Hello, Stephen!
-[Sasha] Hi, Stephen.

513
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:45,805
[Malcolm] Hello, Stephen.

514
00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:49,892
[Andy] Why don't we give Stephen
the executive summary.

515
00:37:50,142 --> 00:37:51,477
Assuming everything is right.

516
00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:53,354
-To be confirmed.
-No, no,

517
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:54,981
you never assume everything is right.

518
00:37:56,857 --> 00:37:59,485
-To be checked, everything to be checked.
-[Malcolm] Yeah. Everything to be checked.

519
00:38:00,027 --> 00:38:03,990
You know, it's the usual roller coaster,
a few minutes ago we were very excited

520
00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:08,411
because the central term
came out on the nose

521
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:14,750
exactly what it needs to be
to get the, uh, area law,

522
00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:19,463
then we realized we...
we might have missed some terms.

523
00:38:23,676 --> 00:38:25,428
Something good seems to be happening.

524
00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:29,348
But we have our work cut out.

525
00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:31,684
[crickets chirping]

526
00:38:39,525 --> 00:38:41,152
[Malcolm] There's something else
we might have forgotten.

527
00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:42,528
[Andy] What?

528
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,364
[Malcolm] There was a question
of an F plus minus term.

529
00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:48,159
Yeah, I've been bothered by that.

530
00:38:48,451 --> 00:38:51,996
So, it could be the F plus minus
term takes this away.

531
00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:55,666
Well, what are we doing
about that, because...

532
00:38:55,958 --> 00:39:00,713
Well I thought I didn't produce anything
with three derivatives of epsilon,

533
00:39:01,213 --> 00:39:02,631
-but...
-We better check that.

534
00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:07,678
[Andy] There's a number we're after.

535
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,306
12 times the angular momentum.

536
00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:14,226
-So I think that is...
-Or divergence of--

537
00:39:14,393 --> 00:39:17,563
[Andy]<i> It's so hard to get the number,</i>
<i>it's really hard to get the number.</i>

538
00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:21,359
If you do get the number...

539
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,194
[Malcolm] Up here.

540
00:39:23,277 --> 00:39:26,864
[Andy]<i> ...that will tell you that black</i>
<i>holes have the capacity to store...</i>

541
00:39:26,947 --> 00:39:28,199
[indistinct chatter]

542
00:39:28,282 --> 00:39:30,493
[Andy]<i> ...all the information</i>
<i>that might have been lost...</i>

543
00:39:30,576 --> 00:39:32,411
I think there's a path in there somewhere.

544
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:36,082
<i>A giant step towards solving</i>
<i>the information paradox.</i>

545
00:39:36,582 --> 00:39:39,377
[Sasha] And Malcolm got from
that to this by integrating by parts.

546
00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:42,004
-Illegally.
-Yes.

547
00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:45,299
[Sasha] But, by using divergence
of a three-form...

548
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,177
-You can do the same thing.
-You can get to this exact equation

549
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:51,013
-and you always have room for...
-[Hawking] How many conformal

550
00:39:51,097 --> 00:39:53,599
killing vectors on the two sphere?

551
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:55,935
-Three!
-[Hawking] An infinite number?

552
00:39:56,769 --> 00:39:57,895
Six!

553
00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:01,982
Stephen's a very interesting person
to work with because...

554
00:40:02,691 --> 00:40:06,570
I guess he's a man of few words,
so everything he says is really important.

555
00:40:06,654 --> 00:40:10,491
Globally well-defined
strict killing vectors,

556
00:40:10,574 --> 00:40:13,911
there are three of them.
Globally well-defined...

557
00:40:14,703 --> 00:40:16,705
[Sasha]<i> He'll ask something</i>
<i>which might at first sight</i>

558
00:40:16,997 --> 00:40:19,041
<i>seem to be he's just clarifying something,</i>

559
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,127
and actually it turns out to be

560
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:23,879
he's got a slightly different idea or...

561
00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:27,174
he just gives a bit
of his insight or intuition.

562
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:30,928
<i>Which might then sort of confuse everybody</i>

563
00:40:31,011 --> 00:40:32,972
<i>and then we realize</i>
<i>actually it's really important.</i>

564
00:40:33,055 --> 00:40:34,765
So we've been, uh...

565
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,978
we're religiously abiding
by your instructions to...

566
00:40:41,188 --> 00:40:43,232
forget about infinity.

567
00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:47,445
[Andy]<i> I was laying some groundwork first,</i>

568
00:40:47,778 --> 00:40:49,280
<i>sort of circling the mountain,</i>

569
00:40:49,363 --> 00:40:52,324
trying to figure out
which was the best route to the top.

570
00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:57,621
And Stephen was like,
"okay, we're taking this one now."

571
00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:01,876
<i>He's very daring.</i>

572
00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:06,297
He doesn't want to spend a lot of time

573
00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:10,050
exploring all the subcases
and different possibilities.

574
00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:13,095
<i>He wants to go for the jugular.</i>

575
00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:16,765
[Hawking] Would diffeomorphism
give all the entropy<i>?</i>

576
00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:18,726
Which diffeomorphisms
give you the entropy?

577
00:41:19,518 --> 00:41:20,436
[beeps]

578
00:41:20,686 --> 00:41:22,771
Ah, so the question is
what are the diffeomorphisms...

579
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:25,274
[Malcolm]<i> This problem is probably</i>
<i>too hard to do on your own,</i>

580
00:41:25,357 --> 00:41:28,152
but different people think
about things in different ways

581
00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:32,490
and, well, each brings
their own little bit of it

582
00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:33,866
<i>to the table.</i>

583
00:41:33,949 --> 00:41:37,161
It's basically
E to the i-n-phi around the...

584
00:41:38,245 --> 00:41:41,874
-it's basically...
-E to the i-n-phi but somehow...

585
00:41:42,082 --> 00:41:43,459
[Andy]<i> I tend to race</i>

586
00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:46,712
<i>to the end and then try</i>
<i>to fill in the spaces...</i>

587
00:41:46,795 --> 00:41:47,671
[producer] Really?

588
00:41:47,922 --> 00:41:52,259
...which is a methodology which
is particularly prone to making errors

589
00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:55,262
<i>because you've already decided</i>
<i>what answer you want.</i>

590
00:41:55,596 --> 00:41:56,805
[birds chirping]

591
00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:00,559
[Andy]<i> Whereas Malcolm</i>
<i>would be more likely to just</i>

592
00:42:01,268 --> 00:42:04,522
<i>start from the beginning</i>
<i>and systematically</i>

593
00:42:05,022 --> 00:42:07,816
<i>work through it,</i>
<i>which has the other problem</i>

594
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,485
<i>that if you're not heading</i>
<i>in the right direction,</i>

595
00:42:09,568 --> 00:42:10,653
<i>you'll never get there.</i>

596
00:42:11,987 --> 00:42:13,948
<i>So I think we compliment each other well.</i>

597
00:42:16,408 --> 00:42:19,578
<i>Sasha has been a fantastic addition.</i>

598
00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:23,415
<i>She started as Malcolm's graduate student,</i>

599
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,755
<i>and she went from zero to sixty</i>
<i>in a rather spectacular way.</i>

600
00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:31,924
[Andy laughing]

601
00:42:33,133 --> 00:42:37,137
We had it once and it went away,
and we got it again about 10 days ago,

602
00:42:37,596 --> 00:42:38,889
but it's gone away again.

603
00:42:42,768 --> 00:42:44,019
<i>We're on the right track,</i>

604
00:42:45,521 --> 00:42:48,065
<i>but it's turning out</i>
<i>to be monstrously complicated.</i>

605
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:49,275
I think let's go this way.

606
00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:50,317
I think go that way.

607
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:51,569
We should've brought a helicopter.

608
00:42:52,194 --> 00:42:53,696
Well do you want to go down that way?

609
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,531
-[Andy] This one, you mean?
-[Malcolm] No.

610
00:43:11,964 --> 00:43:16,885
This was a really convoluted international
shipment because of what went on in Chile.

611
00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:19,555
-You know this is important data, right?
-[Michael Titus] Yes.

612
00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:24,602
I don't like to hear the word convoluted
in the same sentence as "your data."

613
00:43:24,977 --> 00:43:26,604
The implement of destruction.

614
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:29,732
{\an8}This is freshly delivered data.

615
00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:34,486
All the way from Chile,

616
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,406
recorder three, slot two, set two.

617
00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:40,743
-Nicely labeled. Mm-hmm.
-Vincent?

618
00:43:40,993 --> 00:43:44,413
Photons from Chile. Frozen.

619
00:43:45,831 --> 00:43:49,126
When we get the data
from these different telescopes,

620
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:52,921
the amount of data is immense.

621
00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:55,591
We really have to measure
every single wave,

622
00:43:55,674 --> 00:43:57,426
every single trough and crest

623
00:43:57,593 --> 00:43:59,303
of the waves
as they come to the telescope.

624
00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:03,849
[Feryal]<i> We have to record this faithfully</i>

625
00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:06,810
and then match up each wave front

626
00:44:06,894 --> 00:44:09,647
<i>with the corresponding one</i>
<i>from another telescope</i>

627
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:11,023
<i>halfway across the earth.</i>

628
00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:12,941
Okay, the latest addition from ALMA.

629
00:44:13,692 --> 00:44:14,777
What else do we have here?

630
00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:18,072
We are generating about
one and a half petabytes of data

631
00:44:18,155 --> 00:44:19,406
per night of observation.

632
00:44:20,574 --> 00:44:22,910
-Okay.
-Yeah, once we cleared...

633
00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:26,830
By far the largest amount of data
per night of observing

634
00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:30,292
than any physics experiment
in the history of science.

635
00:44:30,751 --> 00:44:32,127
I want to see...

636
00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:34,421
Okay, so here's a whole ALMA set

637
00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:37,591
[Shep]<i> We bring all the data back,</i>

638
00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:40,260
<i>all these disk drives to a super computer,</i>

639
00:44:40,594 --> 00:44:43,681
<i>one is at the MIT</i>
<i>Haystack Observatory,</i>

640
00:44:44,556 --> 00:44:47,476
and the other is at the Max Planck
Institute for Radio Astronomy

641
00:44:47,601 --> 00:44:50,521
in Bonn, Germany.
Then between these two sites,

642
00:44:50,854 --> 00:44:53,148
we process and handle all of the data.

643
00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:55,734
This is how you make
an earth-size telescope.

644
00:44:55,984 --> 00:44:57,986
It's like a map of the entire globe.

645
00:44:58,237 --> 00:45:02,074
So up here we have
modules that were recorded in Mexico,

646
00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:05,452
uh, these are also from Mexico,
this is from Arizona,

647
00:45:05,702 --> 00:45:07,955
uh, this is from Spain over here,

648
00:45:08,664 --> 00:45:10,332
uh, this is from Hawaii.

649
00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:13,502
We cannot do any of the processing
from the South Pole.

650
00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:15,671
The South Pole station is closed now.

651
00:45:15,754 --> 00:45:16,588
[wind howling]

652
00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:18,382
[Andy]<i> Nothing can land or take off.</i>

653
00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:22,845
<i>All the data's</i>
<i>in the deep freeze until October.</i>

654
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:27,224
This is where all the data come together

655
00:45:27,641 --> 00:45:29,852
and we get the final data products.

656
00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:34,273
So, it's happening. It's hard to believe
after so long, but it's happening.

657
00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:38,694
Drop it for now and let's try,
let's just put the baseline in.

658
00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:43,407
Once you correct the manual phase cals...

659
00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:45,576
then this will clean up...

660
00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:51,248
and even the signal-to-noise ratio
will go up and the amplitude will go up.

661
00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:54,126
That is really amazing.

662
00:45:55,335 --> 00:45:57,671
We're getting the kind of sensitivities

663
00:45:57,838 --> 00:46:02,301
and the resolution that we have been after
for about a decade.

664
00:46:04,803 --> 00:46:06,930
<i>For me, personally,</i>

665
00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:11,685
this is a moment of great anxiety.

666
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,815
We've worked for a long time
for this result.

667
00:46:17,524 --> 00:46:21,778
And we don't know even now what we have.

668
00:47:09,618 --> 00:47:15,541
[no audible dialogue]

669
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,020
[no audible dialogue]

670
00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:12,783
[Silke Weinfurtner]
<i>Black holes are out of reach.</i>

671
00:49:16,453 --> 00:49:19,539
<i>We do not know</i>
<i>if the equations we're using</i>

672
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:21,750
<i>actually describes a black hole.</i>

673
00:49:23,168 --> 00:49:27,631
That's what we cannot directly test,
that's-that's the dilemma we're in.

674
00:49:32,302 --> 00:49:34,137
<i>In my laboratory,</i>

675
00:49:34,221 --> 00:49:37,724
<i>I have a model that mimics</i>
<i>certain features of black holes.</i>

676
00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:43,271
Of course it is not a real black hole,
it would be pretty dangerous.

677
00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:50,153
<i>What we really have is</i>
<i>a gigantic pool of water.</i>

678
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:55,033
<i>You get this nice vortex</i>
<i>forming right in the center.</i>

679
00:49:57,411 --> 00:50:02,207
<i>For small fluctuations on the surface</i>
<i>it should look like a rotating black hole.</i>

680
00:50:10,507 --> 00:50:13,760
<i>There is physics associated</i>
<i>to the horizon:</i>

681
00:50:15,303 --> 00:50:16,263
<i>light bending,</i>

682
00:50:16,805 --> 00:50:18,056
<i>Hawking radiation,</i>

683
00:50:18,473 --> 00:50:19,433
<i>superradiance.</i>

684
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:24,104
<i>And these are the kinds</i>
<i>of effects we can simulate.</i>

685
00:50:24,604 --> 00:50:26,940
<i>All the effects that happen outside</i>
<i>the event horizon.</i>

686
00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:35,198
<i>And at the end, you see an effect</i>
<i>which has been predicted for many years</i>

687
00:50:35,282 --> 00:50:37,534
<i>without any experimental confirmation.</i>

688
00:50:40,203 --> 00:50:41,455
<i>That's real physics.</i>

689
00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:43,331
<i>It has been detected.</i>

690
00:50:48,587 --> 00:50:52,340
There is a limit to what we know
about black hole now,

691
00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:53,842
but I'm a scientist,

692
00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:57,137
this is the best situation you can be in.

693
00:51:01,099 --> 00:51:03,477
<i>We have this universe in a Petri dish.</i>

694
00:51:05,187 --> 00:51:09,149
<i>And it's holding fantastic new insights</i>

695
00:51:09,357 --> 00:51:11,109
<i>waiting to be discovered.</i>

696
00:51:25,415 --> 00:51:26,792
[Malcolm]<i> So zeta minus</i>

697
00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:28,418
zeta-tilda-Y,

698
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:33,673
and this contains an epsilon double prime,
that contains an epsilon prime.

699
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:35,926
[Andy]<i> So that will go like</i>
<i>one over W plus.</i>

700
00:51:36,009 --> 00:51:38,762
[Malcolm] This goes one over W plus,

701
00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:43,225
which means you got to compute
this thing to W plus,

702
00:51:43,308 --> 00:51:45,018
you're sure there's not something else?

703
00:51:45,977 --> 00:51:47,270
[Andy] No it doesn't.

704
00:51:47,354 --> 00:51:51,191
No, it doesn't, because it's only the one
over W plus term that can contribute.

705
00:51:54,402 --> 00:51:55,237
[Malcolm] Right.

706
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,947
We need that one over W plus.

707
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:58,990
[Malcolm] So you have to
compute this to order W plus.

708
00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:00,242
No.

709
00:52:00,325 --> 00:52:03,286
[Sasha] No, because you want
one over W plus in the integrand.

710
00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:04,913
[Malcolm] Oh right.

711
00:52:04,996 --> 00:52:06,998
Because the range of W plus is zero.

712
00:52:07,082 --> 00:52:10,377
So if we don't have one
over W plus there, we get zero.

713
00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:15,799
We didn't understand this in Brinsop.

714
00:52:15,882 --> 00:52:17,551
[Malcolm] No, I guess we did not
understand that.

715
00:52:21,471 --> 00:52:23,849
We thought at Brinsop that
things were relatively simple,

716
00:52:24,266 --> 00:52:26,142
we didn't have to think about so much,

717
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:29,354
But since then, we've discovered
all kinds of other things

718
00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:31,314
which do contribute
and complicate matters.

719
00:52:32,065 --> 00:52:35,402
[Andy] In Brinsop, we thought
we could do it by hand.

720
00:52:36,361 --> 00:52:38,572
You know, ten pages.

721
00:52:42,284 --> 00:52:44,995
Turns out to be among the most

722
00:52:46,371 --> 00:52:50,333
long calculations
that any of us has done.

723
00:52:50,542 --> 00:52:52,878
[Malcolm] That's actually spot on.

724
00:52:57,048 --> 00:52:58,550
[Sasha] One thousand and fifty terms.

725
00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:04,180
[Andy] 1050 terms? You can't do,
you cannot add 1050 terms

726
00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:06,433
without making a single mistake.

727
00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:08,393
Or I can't.

728
00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:10,520
I think that's even beyond Malcolm.

729
00:53:10,604 --> 00:53:12,731
[Malcolm] I think I can do
about half of that, but...

730
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:16,484
[Andy] So a month ago,

731
00:53:17,152 --> 00:53:21,156
we realized we were going to
have to use computers.

732
00:53:23,241 --> 00:53:26,578
Essentially adding up
many thousands of terms;

733
00:53:26,912 --> 00:53:31,499
if they all add up to exactly 12J,

734
00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:34,169
it will mean the hair
that's on the black hole

735
00:53:34,794 --> 00:53:38,673
is enough to completely reconstruct
how it was made.

736
00:53:39,215 --> 00:53:41,635
That's a long way towards solving
the information paradox.

737
00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:44,596
[Andy] We haven't seen that
happening so far.

738
00:53:45,472 --> 00:53:49,476
Which either means that we-- there's
a mistake in our computer program,

739
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:50,936
a mistake in our input,

740
00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:54,689
or a mistake in our conceptual
analysis of the problem.

741
00:53:56,066 --> 00:53:59,486
And we've been up and down
in our level of optimism.

742
00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:03,365
We must believe that actually,
it's going to work out properly

743
00:54:03,448 --> 00:54:04,866
for the very simple reason

744
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:08,495
that we would not be putting this much
effort into it if we didn't believe that.

745
00:54:10,997 --> 00:54:13,917
-[Malcolm] We are putting the effort in.
-We are putting the effort in, yeah.

746
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,212
And the reason we're doing that is
because we believe it.

747
00:54:18,713 --> 00:54:20,465
If we didn't believe it
we probably would have...

748
00:54:22,926 --> 00:54:24,803
-[Sasha] Given up months ago.
-been a bit more discouraged.

749
00:54:26,805 --> 00:54:27,889
[Sasha] I'm optimistic.

750
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:32,185
But I think we're missing
something quite--

751
00:54:33,311 --> 00:54:34,938
we're missing a term or something.

752
00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:37,816
[Malcolm] Or an idea.

753
00:54:37,899 --> 00:54:41,987
Or an idea or something. We haven't just
not added things up correctly.

754
00:54:45,156 --> 00:54:50,245
[Andy]<i> The information paradox says</i>
<i>that because of black holes,</i>

755
00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:51,538
<i>the universe</i>

756
00:54:52,163 --> 00:54:53,999
<i>can't be described</i>

757
00:54:54,708 --> 00:54:57,502
<i>exactly by physical laws.</i>

758
00:55:00,171 --> 00:55:02,215
I'm putting my money on an idea that

759
00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:06,302
there are physical laws
and that we can figure out what they are.

760
00:55:08,763 --> 00:55:10,724
<i>But it's not over yet.</i>

761
00:55:23,403 --> 00:55:26,781
[Andrea Ghez]<i> I think it is</i>
<i>interesting when observations</i>

762
00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:29,200
<i>don't conform to</i>

763
00:55:29,367 --> 00:55:32,996
our standard picture of how things behave.

764
00:55:33,163 --> 00:55:36,416
And that's when people start to look for

765
00:55:36,666 --> 00:55:38,543
more exotic explanations.

766
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,631
<i>And that's what happened</i>
<i>with the black hole story.</i>

767
00:55:46,509 --> 00:55:49,095
<i>Black holes were initially very</i>

768
00:55:49,345 --> 00:55:53,183
esoteric, mathematical,
very hard to accept,

769
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,644
<i>and yet increasingly over time,</i>

770
00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:59,731
<i>there were observations</i>
<i>that didn't make sense.</i>

771
00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:04,652
<i>Black holes were the best explanation</i>
<i>for what was observed.</i>

772
00:56:05,987 --> 00:56:09,240
What was still quite controversial
were the supermassive black holes,

773
00:56:09,324 --> 00:56:12,243
the ones that were a million to a billion
times the mass of the sun.

774
00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:18,374
<i>Maybe all galaxies harbor supermassive</i>
<i>black holes at their cores.</i>

775
00:56:19,334 --> 00:56:21,086
<i>Even our own galaxy.</i>

776
00:56:22,128 --> 00:56:24,005
That was pretty controversial,

777
00:56:24,714 --> 00:56:28,802
and that is certainly the idea
that I got very interested in.

778
00:56:31,346 --> 00:56:33,473
<i>And I had this technique</i>
<i>that I was working on,</i>

779
00:56:33,556 --> 00:56:35,850
<i>my group and then the group in Germany,</i>

780
00:56:36,017 --> 00:56:39,646
<i>that in principle could figure it out.</i>

781
00:56:41,606 --> 00:56:44,943
<i>And this was just as the Keck Observatory</i>
<i>was opening up in Hawaii.</i>

782
00:56:48,488 --> 00:56:51,032
<i>It's kind of amazing</i>
<i>that a very big telescope</i>

783
00:56:51,116 --> 00:56:53,368
<i>let us monkey around with</i>
<i>the instrumentation at all.</i>

784
00:56:56,579 --> 00:56:57,413
<i>And yet it worked.</i>

785
00:56:58,081 --> 00:56:59,624
<i>All of a sudden you could</i>
<i>see the center of the galaxy,</i>

786
00:56:59,707 --> 00:57:01,334
<i>these stars at the center of the galaxy.</i>

787
00:57:05,421 --> 00:57:08,716
<i>And if there's a black hole there that has</i>
<i>a few million times the mass of sun,</i>

788
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,386
these things are gonna move
really, really fast.

789
00:57:13,346 --> 00:57:15,223
<i>‘95 was our first measurement,</i>

790
00:57:15,515 --> 00:57:19,352
<i>‘96, we saw a second picture,</i>
<i>and oh my goodness!</i>

791
00:57:20,979 --> 00:57:23,648
<i>Those things were absolutely</i>
<i>not in the same place.</i>

792
00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:26,985
These things were hauling!

793
00:57:28,486 --> 00:57:31,239
<i>‘98, ‘99, it was already clear</i>

794
00:57:31,322 --> 00:57:33,741
<i>that the ones that were really close,</i>
<i>were starting to curve.</i>

795
00:57:36,327 --> 00:57:38,788
<i>The curvature gives you a direction</i>
<i>to the black hole.</i>

796
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,250
<i>And we had three stars that were curving,</i>
<i>so it was like three arrows</i>

797
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,796
and they all intersected
at the same place.

798
00:57:50,675 --> 00:57:52,927
<i>You need something very massive</i>

799
00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:56,139
<i>to drive that kind of short-period orbit.</i>

800
00:58:01,102 --> 00:58:06,149
<i>It's hard to conceive of</i>
<i>anything else at its center</i>

801
00:58:06,232 --> 00:58:09,110
<i>other than a supermassive black hole.</i>

802
00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:15,033
<i>We're on our way in.</i>

803
00:58:17,952 --> 00:58:19,454
<i>You can just taste it.</i>

804
00:58:30,798 --> 00:58:31,925
[Michael] 345

805
00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:33,968
{\an8}No, I think Kazu told me--

806
00:58:34,052 --> 00:58:36,638
{\an8}Yeah, but Kazu told me
to look at 120 yesterday

807
00:58:36,721 --> 00:58:38,348
{\an8}and that's why that we
were looking at that one.

808
00:58:38,431 --> 00:58:40,141
So this is 3C345?

809
00:58:40,225 --> 00:58:41,226
-[Katie] Yeah.
-Okay.

810
00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:43,645
The fact that we're aiming
so high with the EHT

811
00:58:43,728 --> 00:58:46,231
to see something you know
no one's ever seen before means

812
00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:49,192
we have to develop an entirely
new set of tools.

813
00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:51,945
It's a lot easier to start
with a big field of view...

814
00:58:52,111 --> 00:58:54,656
<i>We have to reconstruct an image</i>
<i>with sufficient fidelity</i>

815
00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:56,574
<i>that we can trust what we're seeing.</i>

816
00:58:56,658 --> 00:58:58,284
...small and then you get
some weird structuring on there.

817
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:02,205
Yeah, anyway, I don't have it loaded on
linear scale with them all in the same

818
00:59:02,288 --> 00:59:05,083
When we take a picture
on our camera, right,

819
00:59:05,166 --> 00:59:08,461
you believe that picture
is exactly reality, right?

820
00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:10,755
You actually saw that with your own eyes

821
00:59:10,838 --> 00:59:12,632
and you can see, oh, okay, that matches.

822
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:16,302
When we take a picture of a black hole
with the Event Horizon Telescope,

823
00:59:16,386 --> 00:59:17,971
we don't get to see that,

824
00:59:18,054 --> 00:59:20,098
we don't know if the picture we generate

825
00:59:20,181 --> 00:59:21,849
is actually what the
black hole looks like.

826
00:59:22,934 --> 00:59:25,144
<i>How do we evaluate what's the true image?</i>

827
00:59:26,187 --> 00:59:27,188
So which is right?

828
00:59:27,730 --> 00:59:28,856
What I'm saying is in general...

829
00:59:29,023 --> 00:59:32,360
which is right?
You know, people publish...

830
00:59:32,485 --> 00:59:35,196
[Katie]<i> One way we approach the problem</i>
<i>is by separating the teams</i>

831
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,365
<i>into different groups</i>
<i>that can't talk to each other.</i>

832
00:59:38,408 --> 00:59:41,286
<i>We generate data from</i>
<i>lots of different kinds of images,</i>

833
00:59:41,661 --> 00:59:44,872
<i>realistic data like we would get</i>
<i>from the Event Horizon Telescope,</i>

834
00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:48,167
<i>then release to the community</i>
<i>but without the true image</i>

835
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:52,130
<i>and we say, do your best job,</i>
<i>get your best image from this data.</i>

836
00:59:52,547 --> 00:59:56,718
What happens in Team One room
stays in Team One room, right?

837
00:59:57,385 --> 00:59:59,554
If I see another team's image,

838
00:59:59,637 --> 01:00:02,640
I might start trying to push
my imaging algorithms,

839
01:00:02,724 --> 01:00:05,810
even subconsciously, in a direction
that would favor that kind of image.

840
01:00:05,893 --> 01:00:07,645
Look at these amplitude error bars

841
01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:13,568
[Katie]<i> We want to have many rounds of</i>
<i>imaging and refining that imaging process</i>

842
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:17,196
<i>before we actually compare the images</i>

843
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,074
You look at all these different things
with the same data,

844
01:00:20,366 --> 01:00:21,951
it's a cage match of love...

845
01:00:22,076 --> 01:00:25,913
<i>We should be able to cross-compare the</i>
<i>different algorithms between the teams.</i>

846
01:00:26,205 --> 01:00:28,207
And if we start getting
convergence on those,

847
01:00:28,499 --> 01:00:32,253
then we'll know that we're in a good
position to do the same for Sag-A* and M87

848
01:00:32,337 --> 01:00:35,006
[Mareki] And here is
low closure amplitude.

849
01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:37,091
There's a really big difference.

850
01:00:37,258 --> 01:00:38,593
[Sarah] It is three days apart.

851
01:00:39,093 --> 01:00:41,095
Yeah, but the source
has not changed that much,

852
01:00:41,721 --> 01:00:43,222
and you cannot change the speed of light.

853
01:00:44,098 --> 01:00:49,937
But you know, orange and blue, that's
exactly same day, exactly same time

854
01:00:50,396 --> 01:00:54,442
[Mareki]<i> In Team Two,</i>
<i>I would say we had a hard time.</i>

855
01:00:55,234 --> 01:00:59,322
My feeling is that data are not yet ready,

856
01:01:00,031 --> 01:01:02,075
not yet well-calibrated

857
01:01:02,617 --> 01:01:03,951
for imaging.

858
01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:06,788
<i>So there is still work to be done.</i>

859
01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:17,340
I just happened to be looking
at the Guardian website

860
01:01:17,757 --> 01:01:21,719
at around midnight
on the evening of the 13th,

861
01:01:22,387 --> 01:01:23,680
and they announced it.

862
01:01:25,306 --> 01:01:26,182
And that was it.

863
01:01:28,851 --> 01:01:32,689
[Andy]<i> We had been talking</i>
<i>about going to see him.</i>

864
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:35,692
Because we were worried, and because

865
01:01:36,401 --> 01:01:40,488
we knew that the work
would lift his spirits.

866
01:01:42,448 --> 01:01:45,451
[Sasha]<i> We kept saying as soon as</i>
<i>we get somewhere,</i>

867
01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,203
<i>we're flying straight back to the UK</i>

868
01:01:47,286 --> 01:01:50,039
<i>to talk to him about it</i>
<i>and discuss the next step with him.</i>

869
01:01:50,748 --> 01:01:55,294
It would have made him so happy to realize
that we'd got somewhere with this project.

870
01:01:55,753 --> 01:01:59,340
And unfortunately we just
didn't get there in time.

871
01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:03,803
-[Malcolm]<i> We all think in different ways,</i>
-[Andy]<i> Yeah.</i>

872
01:02:03,886 --> 01:02:07,014
[Malcolm]<i> and he has his own</i>
<i>unique way of thinking about things</i>

873
01:02:08,224 --> 01:02:12,687
and we're not going to be allowed
to have access to his mind anymore.

874
01:02:13,062 --> 01:02:14,605
That's a huge loss.

875
01:02:15,648 --> 01:02:17,942
There's a special kind of friendship

876
01:02:18,943 --> 01:02:24,657
that grows out of scientific
collaboration and discovery

877
01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:28,786
that's in my experience like no other.

878
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:34,375
And to have a, you know...

879
01:02:36,002 --> 01:02:37,545
scientific...

880
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,506
a productive scientific interaction

881
01:02:41,841 --> 01:02:46,012
with somebody over many decades

882
01:02:47,096 --> 01:02:48,639
and then lose them,

883
01:02:49,557 --> 01:02:51,142
is very sad.

884
01:02:52,351 --> 01:02:56,606
It's sad in a different way than losing
a relative or, but it's...

885
01:02:57,482 --> 01:02:59,400
it's, uh...

886
01:03:02,153 --> 01:03:05,406
it's a special thing and
it's very sad to lose that.

887
01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:46,572
[Janna]<i> You can imagine</i>
<i>if you were floating</i>

888
01:03:46,864 --> 01:03:48,950
<i>near two black holes that collided.</i>

889
01:03:50,785 --> 01:03:54,914
<i>As they orbit, space time begins</i>
<i>to ring in response.</i>

890
01:03:56,332 --> 01:03:58,251
<i>They're like mallets on a drum.</i>

891
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:00,545
<i>The drum is space time itself.</i>

892
01:04:01,587 --> 01:04:02,922
<i>It begins to ring.</i>

893
01:04:04,048 --> 01:04:06,884
<i>Gravitational waves, squeezing</i>
<i>and stretching space.</i>

894
01:04:09,053 --> 01:04:12,098
<i>In principle, they would pluck</i>
<i>your ear drum,</i>

895
01:04:12,765 --> 01:04:16,143
<i>you would hear them</i>
<i>even though it's empty space.</i>

896
01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:26,320
<i>Gravitational waves are actually like</i>
<i>a sound in the medium of space time.</i>

897
01:04:33,536 --> 01:04:37,456
<i>And that was the greatest</i>
<i>discovery of 2015.</i>

898
01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:42,545
The experiment LIGO recorded the collision
of two completely dark black holes.

899
01:04:47,425 --> 01:04:50,261
{\an8}<i>The final one-fifth of a second</i>

900
01:04:50,344 --> 01:04:53,639
{\an8}<i>before the black holes merged</i>
<i>and went quiet as a bigger black hole.</i>

901
01:04:54,807 --> 01:04:56,058
{\an8}And that's stunning.

902
01:04:56,142 --> 01:04:59,312
The only evidence we've had
for black holes before then

903
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,355
was what they do to their environment.

904
01:05:02,064 --> 01:05:03,441
{\an8}<i>This felt direct.</i>

905
01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:06,277
{\an8}<i>The first completely direct evidence</i>

906
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,905
{\an8}<i>of not only the existence of black holes,</i>

907
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:11,782
<i>but the existence of</i>
<i>a pair of black holes.</i>

908
01:05:12,283 --> 01:05:15,536
<i>This signal comes after traveling</i>
<i>over a billion years,</i>

909
01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:17,413
{\an8}<i>and they record it.</i>

910
01:05:17,496 --> 01:05:20,708
{\an8}<i>Just a spectacular, spectacular discovery.</i>

911
01:05:22,919 --> 01:05:26,672
My work very much was about
theoretically how black holes collide,

912
01:05:26,756 --> 01:05:28,966
what it would sound like,
simulating those sounds,

913
01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:32,303
and understanding the dynamics
of black hole orbits.

914
01:05:36,766 --> 01:05:40,227
{\an8}<i>Gravitational waves are so quiet</i>
<i>by the time that they reach the earth,</i>

915
01:05:41,854 --> 01:05:46,108
{\an8}the experiments only pick up
the final few orbits.

916
01:05:48,402 --> 01:05:50,821
<i>To dig deeper and hear the approach,</i>

917
01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:55,701
<i>my group has been doing approximations</i>
<i>of the final several minutes.</i>

918
01:05:57,286 --> 01:05:58,829
<i>Listening to the longer run-up,</i>

919
01:05:59,413 --> 01:06:02,667
we can tell if the black holes had a
more interesting dynamic,

920
01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:04,460
if it was a more complicated motion.

921
01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:10,174
<i>So in this case not only are the</i>
<i>black holes different masses,</i>

922
01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:13,511
<i>not only are they on</i>
<i>a more complicated orbit,</i>

923
01:06:13,594 --> 01:06:15,012
<i>but they're also spinning.</i>

924
01:06:18,849 --> 01:06:21,852
<i>The system begins to rotate in space</i>

925
01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,940
<i>and you can hear it get quieter</i>

926
01:06:26,524 --> 01:06:28,734
<i>as the gravitational waves</i>
<i>are beamed away from you,</i>

927
01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:31,529
<i>and louder as they're beamed to you.</i>

928
01:06:32,363 --> 01:06:34,991
<i>And so these are all</i>
<i>details we can extract</i>

929
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,493
<i>from the gravitational waves'</i>
<i>sound just by listening.</i>

930
01:06:39,787 --> 01:06:41,330
<i>And then they get louder, faster,</i>

931
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:43,207
<i>right before they merge.</i>

932
01:06:44,834 --> 01:06:46,877
<i>And then it goes quiet</i>
<i>as one big black hole.</i>

933
01:06:48,921 --> 01:06:50,631
There is a human pleasure

934
01:06:50,965 --> 01:06:55,052
in being able to experience, viscerally,

935
01:06:55,136 --> 01:06:56,804
<i>a recording like that.</i>

936
01:06:57,471 --> 01:07:00,057
<i>In some sense,</i>
<i>making black holes more real.</i>

937
01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:04,020
<i>What a remarkable time to be alive:</i>

938
01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:10,026
to actually be on that cusp
of not knowing, and then discovering.

939
01:07:26,876 --> 01:07:29,712
All right guys,
we're gonna release the data.

940
01:07:30,004 --> 01:07:30,838
[group] Whoo!

941
01:07:30,921 --> 01:07:32,840
[Shep] Big moment, let's do it then.

942
01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:37,470
Okay, I'm including everybody in the
entire collaboration on this note.

943
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:43,267
The end goal is to have this snapshot
of reality: how a black hole really looks.

944
01:07:44,351 --> 01:07:48,564
<i>Black holes at the center of galaxies</i>
<i>are bathed in this hot glowing plasma,</i>

945
01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:50,941
<i>and so there's light coming</i>
<i>from behind the black hole</i>

946
01:07:51,025 --> 01:07:52,943
<i>and in front of it and every which way.</i>

947
01:07:53,736 --> 01:07:55,613
<i>They curve their spacetime so much</i>

948
01:07:55,696 --> 01:07:57,907
<i>that even light from behind the black hole</i>

949
01:07:57,990 --> 01:08:00,910
<i>can be bent around them</i>
<i>to reach the observer.</i>

950
01:08:04,497 --> 01:08:05,331
<i>You can imagine</i>

951
01:08:05,414 --> 01:08:08,459
<i>some of the photons would be</i>
<i>far enough away they'd just come to you,</i>

952
01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:12,421
<i>some of them would be close to the horizon</i>
<i>and they get bent inward,</i>

953
01:08:13,214 --> 01:08:16,592
<i>and some of them would be too close</i>
<i>and they'd fall into the black hole.</i>

954
01:08:18,302 --> 01:08:21,097
<i>And so the shadow of the black hole</i>
<i>is this circular area</i>

955
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:22,515
<i>of diminished brightness</i>

956
01:08:22,723 --> 01:08:24,225
<i>with this bright ring around it.</i>

957
01:08:25,434 --> 01:08:28,896
{\an8}<i>It's really a special thing that</i>
<i>there's such a concrete prediction</i>

958
01:08:28,979 --> 01:08:30,523
{\an8}<i>for something that no one's ever seen.</i>

959
01:08:31,524 --> 01:08:34,610
[Katie] You know, if you're making an
image, you have to come in the other room,

960
01:08:34,693 --> 01:08:36,362
-[Michael] Okay.
-[Katie] So we all start at the same time.

961
01:08:36,445 --> 01:08:38,364
[Michael]<i> Team One Imagers!</i>

962
01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:40,950
Okay, which day has the best coverage
by the way?

963
01:08:41,033 --> 01:08:42,827
I'm doing 3601.

964
01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:44,870
-[Andrew] I was going to do 3601 for now.
-[Michael] Same.

965
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:46,455
[Katie] Okay, are we ready?

966
01:08:46,539 --> 01:08:47,748
[Andrew] I'm giddy.

967
01:08:47,832 --> 01:08:50,417
[Katie] Oh, my God, wait, should we close
the door, are we ready?

968
01:08:50,501 --> 01:08:52,920
Wait, what is happening?

969
01:08:53,337 --> 01:08:54,755
[Katie] We're trying to make
an image right now!

970
01:08:54,839 --> 01:08:57,883
Can we just pace things a little bit?

971
01:08:58,634 --> 01:09:00,261
Well no, first of all.

972
01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:02,096
Shep, close the door!

973
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,514
Oh, my God!

974
01:09:03,889 --> 01:09:05,933
Can we start Michael?!
You don't have to start...

975
01:09:06,016 --> 01:09:07,184
Let's wait for Michael

976
01:09:07,518 --> 01:09:09,854
[Michael] Can we just go on
our little trajectories

977
01:09:09,937 --> 01:09:11,897
and you know meet up in 20 minutes?

978
01:09:12,982 --> 01:09:13,816
[Daniel] No.

979
01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:16,318
I just think it's like a big moment,

980
01:09:16,485 --> 01:09:20,114
[stammering]
and I think for me, I'm just saying, like,

981
01:09:20,948 --> 01:09:23,242
I think it'd be fun for us all
to do the first one together,

982
01:09:23,325 --> 01:09:27,663
see that shit, and then go off in our
own little ways and fix it.

983
01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:31,000
I think it's just so exciting that you--
do you want to do it alone?

984
01:09:31,083 --> 01:09:34,670
[Shep] I'd like to see it all together so
we can kind of get some idea of the data.

985
01:09:34,795 --> 01:09:35,629
[Katie] Are we ready?

986
01:09:35,713 --> 01:09:36,922
[group] Ready.

987
01:09:37,006 --> 01:09:38,674
[Katie] It's not gonna work at all!

988
01:09:38,757 --> 01:09:40,634
[Andrew] Enhance, enhance, enhance!

989
01:09:41,135 --> 01:09:41,969
[Katie] Ready?

990
01:09:42,344 --> 01:09:43,179
[Andrew] Set.

991
01:09:43,762 --> 01:09:44,597
[group] Go!

992
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,099
[Katie] Oh, my God!
Oh, my God we pressed go!

993
01:09:48,809 --> 01:09:50,269
[Andrew] It's just a waffle.

994
01:09:51,604 --> 01:09:54,815
[Shep] Ah! That looks really,
really interesting.

995
01:09:55,274 --> 01:09:58,736
[Katie vocalizing]

996
01:09:58,819 --> 01:10:00,070
How's the waffling going?

997
01:10:00,321 --> 01:10:01,822
[Katie] Andrew's looks beautiful but...

998
01:10:02,656 --> 01:10:04,992
there's no tweaking involved.

999
01:10:06,368 --> 01:10:08,621
[Andrew] I put compactness very high.

1000
01:10:10,623 --> 01:10:13,667
[Michael] Daniel and I were both getting
something like this, with--

1001
01:10:14,919 --> 01:10:16,587
That's what I get when I use only closure.

1002
01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:17,588
[Shep] Only closure?

1003
01:10:17,671 --> 01:10:19,173
Oh, my God, look at the chi squareds!

1004
01:10:20,174 --> 01:10:21,258
[Shep] That's pretty good!

1005
01:10:22,426 --> 01:10:24,929
[Michael] And then this is,
after a few more iterations,

1006
01:10:25,137 --> 01:10:27,932
it smooths it out and gets rid
of some of the extended junk.

1007
01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:29,683
-[Shep] This is all on low-band?
-[Michael] Yeah

1008
01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:31,268
[Shep] Is this only one day?

1009
01:10:31,644 --> 01:10:32,561
This only one day?

1010
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:34,104
[Shep] You know what –

1011
01:10:34,188 --> 01:10:35,397
That's pretty suggestive.

1012
01:10:36,273 --> 01:10:37,608
[Andrew] Well, it seems--

1013
01:10:37,691 --> 01:10:39,276
[Shep] Did you remove these outliers
in the amplitude?

1014
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,611
I didn't touch anything.

1015
01:10:41,111 --> 01:10:45,449
[Shep] That is very cool guys.
It's really, really cool.

1016
01:10:45,532 --> 01:10:46,617
Wait, which one is that?

1017
01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:47,701
[Andrew] This is Katie's image.

1018
01:10:48,369 --> 01:10:50,037
[Katie] See it looks different though,

1019
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,749
because you guys have a
bright spot more on this side.

1020
01:10:53,832 --> 01:10:55,209
[Michael] Okay, seriously?!

1021
01:10:55,459 --> 01:10:59,505
Look, we're all getting kind of a crescent
that's about the right size--

1022
01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:03,217
[Shep] So what is the size on that,
it's like--

1023
01:11:03,300 --> 01:11:04,301
This is about 40.

1024
01:11:05,761 --> 01:11:10,641
[Shep] That's when you expect if M87
has six billion solar masses.

1025
01:11:10,891 --> 01:11:12,142
[Michael] That's a high mass case.

1026
01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:15,813
[Shep] You know what this is?
This is a scale to weigh black holes.

1027
01:11:15,896 --> 01:11:18,232
[Michael] Okay, seriously if we can get
anything that looks remotely

1028
01:11:18,315 --> 01:11:19,692
like that on all the days--

1029
01:11:19,775 --> 01:11:21,610
[Shep] Guys, the only way
anyone's leaving this room

1030
01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:23,821
is if everybody gets over there
so we take a picture.

1031
01:11:23,904 --> 01:11:25,239
It could have been awful!

1032
01:11:25,322 --> 01:11:27,491
Am I short enough
that I can just stand here?

1033
01:11:30,411 --> 01:11:31,787
And you got to get the thing!

1034
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:34,915
[Shep]<i> We're at a point now</i>

1035
01:11:35,207 --> 01:11:37,918
where things could inadvertently go south.

1036
01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:40,713
Okay, so I took a picture on my phone,

1037
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,173
of something on the screen.

1038
01:11:43,382 --> 01:11:45,634
See you guys tomorrow, we'll do some more
imaging tomorrow.

1039
01:11:45,718 --> 01:11:48,012
<i>All it's gonna take is</i>
<i>for one of these images</i>

1040
01:11:48,679 --> 01:11:50,889
<i>to be texted to the wrong person,</i>

1041
01:11:51,015 --> 01:11:54,059
people will look at it,
they will measure it off of a screen,

1042
01:11:54,143 --> 01:11:55,477
they'll go write a paper.

1043
01:11:56,061 --> 01:11:57,354
I guarantee you.

1044
01:11:58,022 --> 01:12:01,275
<i>There has to be an absolute, 100% embargo.</i>

1045
01:12:02,651 --> 01:12:05,738
<i>No one outside the EHT collaboration</i>
<i>can see anything,</i>

1046
01:12:06,947 --> 01:12:08,574
<i>anything that happens here</i>

1047
01:12:09,491 --> 01:12:11,493
<i>can never leave Team One.</i>

1048
01:12:13,203 --> 01:12:14,997
<i>This is pretty wild.</i>

1049
01:12:15,539 --> 01:12:17,207
<i>It's all wrong, I'm sure it's all wrong,</i>

1050
01:12:17,291 --> 01:12:19,251
<i>but if that works out,</i>

1051
01:12:19,877 --> 01:12:22,004
<i>it's pretty amazing.</i>

1052
01:12:27,968 --> 01:12:29,970
[birds chirping]

1053
01:12:49,615 --> 01:12:50,657
[Malcolm]<i> Things are going well.</i>

1054
01:12:52,785 --> 01:12:56,872
<i>We think that we have managed</i>
<i>to do this part of the project.</i>

1055
01:13:03,295 --> 01:13:04,380
We've managed to get

1056
01:13:05,422 --> 01:13:08,217
our target answer of 12J.

1057
01:13:11,095 --> 01:13:12,513
<i>There's a little bit left to do.</i>

1058
01:13:24,691 --> 01:13:28,737
[Andy] I think the only thing
that matters is 3.5.

1059
01:13:29,446 --> 01:13:31,073
-[Malcolm] 3.5?
-[Andy] Yeah.

1060
01:13:35,953 --> 01:13:36,829
Good to see you.

1061
01:13:38,455 --> 01:13:39,456
[Andy] Hey Sasha!

1062
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:41,125
Oh hey, you're here already!

1063
01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:44,420
Yeah, we've already done
like five pages of calculations,

1064
01:13:44,503 --> 01:13:45,337
you're late!

1065
01:13:50,259 --> 01:13:52,469
[Andy] You're allowed to put your stuff
away and go to the bathroom.

1066
01:13:53,178 --> 01:13:55,514
That's alright, I'm needed.

1067
01:13:55,597 --> 01:13:57,307
-[Malcolm] No time for that!
-Nope.

1068
01:13:59,810 --> 01:14:01,353
[Andy] Okay, uh...

1069
01:14:01,562 --> 01:14:05,107
[Sasha] So where are we at?
Like, what still needs to be done?

1070
01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:09,153
-[Andy] The only things I see now...
-Mm-hmm.

1071
01:14:09,236 --> 01:14:13,323
is understanding this
G plus minus to the P.

1072
01:14:13,490 --> 01:14:15,159
-[Sasha] Yep.
-Right. And the past horizon.

1073
01:14:15,742 --> 01:14:17,828
[Andy] And the past horizon.
Does anybody see anything else?

1074
01:14:17,911 --> 01:14:18,829
No, that's it.

1075
01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:24,126
[Sasha]<i> Back at Brinsop, one year on.</i>

1076
01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:27,171
<i>Last year we thought</i>
<i>it'd be pretty plain sailing,</i>

1077
01:14:27,546 --> 01:14:29,673
we would spend a few
more weeks then we'd just

1078
01:14:29,756 --> 01:14:31,925
sum up all these terms
and get the answer we wanted.

1079
01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:34,011
And then over the course of last year,

1080
01:14:34,094 --> 01:14:36,513
we realized actually it's so much
more complicated than that.

1081
01:14:36,597 --> 01:14:38,724
T-left, over T-right plus T-left

1082
01:14:39,057 --> 01:14:42,227
<i>We found there were millions of terms</i>
<i>and it was never going be a two-week job,</i>

1083
01:14:42,311 --> 01:14:45,147
<i>and we got out computers</i>
<i>for the first time, and that didn't work.</i>

1084
01:14:46,648 --> 01:14:47,816
One over Y.

1085
01:14:48,984 --> 01:14:52,196
And then, what we realized is that you can
actually break this equation we had,

1086
01:14:52,279 --> 01:14:55,532
<i>we could break it down into an integrable</i>
<i>part, and a non-integrable part.</i>

1087
01:14:55,741 --> 01:14:57,034
<i>I think that was the breakthrough.</i>

1088
01:14:58,243 --> 01:14:59,578
<i>We had to realize that</i>

1089
01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:01,413
we had almost everything we needed,

1090
01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:02,998
but there was somehow

1091
01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:05,334
a few terms got lost I guess.

1092
01:15:05,417 --> 01:15:06,585
N, D, here

1093
01:15:06,668 --> 01:15:07,961
<i>What we've discovered is that</i>

1094
01:15:08,921 --> 01:15:11,965
<i>the equation is the sum of the</i>
<i>variation of the inertia charge</i>

1095
01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:15,802
<i>and the variation of the</i>
<i>angular velocity of the horizon.</i>

1096
01:15:16,178 --> 01:15:19,223
<i>Which, when evaluated you get 12J.</i>

1097
01:15:20,349 --> 01:15:22,017
Before, we just had a few of the terms

1098
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,936
involved in the
angular velocity of the horizon.

1099
01:15:24,853 --> 01:15:27,689
<i>And without the full thing</i>,
<i>it wasn't integrable.</i>

1100
01:15:29,858 --> 01:15:32,277
Now we've found a nice physical picture

1101
01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:34,655
and a nice way of getting 12J

1102
01:15:35,072 --> 01:15:36,657
<i>and now's the final, you know,</i>

1103
01:15:36,823 --> 01:15:38,825
<i>finishing touches, to make sure</i>
<i>that we really believe in it.</i>

1104
01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,832
<i>I'm just very sad that Stephen won't be</i>
<i>able to see this through to the end.</i>

1105
01:15:46,583 --> 01:15:48,210
<i>He would have been really, really excited.</i>

1106
01:15:52,631 --> 01:15:54,174
[Andy]<i> It's weird how personal</i>

1107
01:15:55,592 --> 01:15:56,927
<i>physics can become.</i>

1108
01:15:58,303 --> 01:16:03,350
One of the saddest things about Stephen's
passing in the middle of this is that

1109
01:16:04,351 --> 01:16:06,061
if it works we can't tell him.

1110
01:16:07,020 --> 01:16:08,355
[Malcolm]<i> One bottle in front...</i>

1111
01:16:12,442 --> 01:16:13,277
To Stephen.

1112
01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:14,861
[group] To Stephen.

1113
01:16:15,153 --> 01:16:19,575
[Andy]<i> One of the impressive</i>
<i>and wonderful things about Stephen,</i>

1114
01:16:20,033 --> 01:16:21,660
<i>was how much he really...</i>

1115
01:16:22,494 --> 01:16:26,999
cared... about--
about these questions.

1116
01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:34,006
<i>We know that it's somehow</i>
<i>very different inside a black hole.</i>

1117
01:16:34,631 --> 01:16:38,802
<i>And so the prize is a really</i>
<i>big one if you figure it out.</i>

1118
01:16:41,847 --> 01:16:43,265
The nature of spacetime.

1119
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:48,103
That's about right.

1120
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:55,819
[Andy]<i> Hawking handed us</i>
<i>the biggest clue that we have.</i>

1121
01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:00,949
<i>If this project we're on now</i>

1122
01:17:02,993 --> 01:17:06,538
works, it will be like a giant sign post,

1123
01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:08,165
"there's gold in this direction."

1124
01:17:10,917 --> 01:17:12,919
<i>You look up in the night sky</i>

1125
01:17:13,712 --> 01:17:16,048
<i>and of course you don't see them.</i>

1126
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:19,801
<i>But you know they're up there.</i>

1127
01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:22,763
<i>Almost mocking us:</i>

1128
01:17:24,765 --> 01:17:26,391
<i>"try and figure me out."</i>

1129
01:17:36,443 --> 01:17:37,778
{\an8}[Heino]<i> I just want to check my audio.</i>

1130
01:17:37,861 --> 01:17:39,363
[Kazu] Can you hear me?

1131
01:17:39,696 --> 01:17:40,864
[Heino] Yeah, I can hear you.

1132
01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:42,616
{\an8}-[Kazu] Hi Monica, can you hear us?
-[Monica] I can hear you. Hello!

1133
01:17:42,699 --> 01:17:44,576
{\an8}[Kazu] Okay, so I just want to start,

1134
01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:50,040
{\an8}the first telecon actually showing
the first images of M87.

1135
01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:52,626
{\an8}<i>All images are very consistent,</i>

1136
01:17:52,918 --> 01:17:54,878
{\an8}<i>there is a shadow-like feature.</i>

1137
01:17:55,545 --> 01:17:57,881
<i>Really really encouraging results.</i>

1138
01:17:59,841 --> 01:18:02,928
Wow, it worked. I mean,
it definitely worked.

1139
01:18:03,845 --> 01:18:04,805
<i>We see the ring,</i>

1140
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:09,893
and then you've got to be
very skeptical, actually.

1141
01:18:09,976 --> 01:18:11,478
You know, I would love to see that thing

1142
01:18:11,561 --> 01:18:13,689
and that's what makes me very suspicious

1143
01:18:13,772 --> 01:18:15,357
about myself and what I see.

1144
01:18:15,691 --> 01:18:19,152
I think it's okay to call that
a shadow feature, if you like,

1145
01:18:19,486 --> 01:18:20,737
as you see in the middle,

1146
01:18:20,821 --> 01:18:24,408
but we should be really careful of
what we think we see.

1147
01:18:24,491 --> 01:18:26,702
Are we going to see other teams' images?

1148
01:18:26,785 --> 01:18:27,953
[Kazu] No, no, no, no.

1149
01:18:28,036 --> 01:18:32,916
When we meet at imaging workshop
to inspect images from each team--

1150
01:18:33,250 --> 01:18:34,918
I could not sleep last night

1151
01:18:35,168 --> 01:18:36,461
because I was so excited.

1152
01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:40,507
I mean, I've waited for this data set
and this image for eight years.

1153
01:18:41,049 --> 01:18:44,219
{\an8}I'm really happy that we're all getting
pretty consistent results,

1154
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,264
<i>and I'm excited to see</i>
<i>what the other teams are doing.</i>

1155
01:18:47,472 --> 01:18:49,725
<i>We all kept pretty good secrets.</i>

1156
01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:57,107
{\an8}Imaging Team Three has been doing
mostly the standard technique

1157
01:18:57,232 --> 01:18:59,860
{\an8}where we use this algorithm called Clean.

1158
01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:06,283
<i>We have about half a dozen individuals</i>
<i>on the team who are making the images.</i>

1159
01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:10,579
The central part of the image
we're in general agreement on.

1160
01:19:12,456 --> 01:19:15,375
It'll be interesting to see what the
other teams using "maximum entropy"

1161
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:16,543
and some of the other methods,

1162
01:19:17,377 --> 01:19:18,545
what they got next week.

1163
01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:21,923
We hope that they will be consistent.

1164
01:19:23,091 --> 01:19:25,218
We're trying to be very,
very careful about it.

1165
01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:29,681
The worse thing would be to say
that we've seen black hole shadow

1166
01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:32,267
and then find out later
it was an imaging artifact.

1167
01:19:34,686 --> 01:19:36,480
[Katie]<i> Right now within Team One,</i>

1168
01:19:36,563 --> 01:19:39,191
<i>we feel pretty confident in the structures</i>
<i>that we're getting.</i>

1169
01:19:40,692 --> 01:19:43,236
[Andrew] We are feeling pretty good about
our consistency in our images,

1170
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,615
but we haven't seen anything
from the other teams, so,

1171
01:19:46,823 --> 01:19:48,575
it's possible that everything will be...
a complete--

1172
01:19:49,534 --> 01:19:51,369
a complete mess when
comparing between the teams.

1173
01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:54,915
And I'm a little scared for:
what is our plan moving forward,

1174
01:19:54,998 --> 01:19:56,875
-if we do get different images?
-Yeah.

1175
01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:04,966
[Joseph] Good morning!

1176
01:20:05,050 --> 01:20:06,301
-How's it going.
-Pretty good.

1177
01:20:10,597 --> 01:20:14,434
[indistinct chatter]

1178
01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:22,192
Okay, I look forward to it.

1179
01:20:23,276 --> 01:20:24,277
-Hey!
-Hey.

1180
01:20:24,361 --> 01:20:25,737
Nice to meet you finally.

1181
01:20:26,321 --> 01:20:27,197
I'm Katie.

1182
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,490
Nice to meet you!

1183
01:20:29,032 --> 01:20:30,534
Thanks for coming all this way!

1184
01:20:41,211 --> 01:20:43,004
[Shep]<i> This is an incredibly</i>
<i>exciting moment.</i>

1185
01:20:43,421 --> 01:20:45,090
For the first time we're gonna see if

1186
01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:47,175
all the teams are seeing
the same basic structure.

1187
01:20:47,259 --> 01:20:49,636
have not seen any of the results
from anywhere else.

1188
01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:53,557
So this is really a Christmas,
Hanukkah moment, right?

1189
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,477
This is when you unpack, this is when you
open up the gifts you know.

1190
01:20:57,602 --> 01:20:59,521
Did you get a pony? I don't know.

1191
01:20:59,604 --> 01:21:03,275
And then I self-calibrated and then
amplitude plus closure phase.

1192
01:21:03,358 --> 01:21:04,359
[Shep] Okay

1193
01:21:04,442 --> 01:21:06,736
<i>I had a little bit goosebumps.</i>

1194
01:21:07,487 --> 01:21:11,783
{\an8}I've been waiting for this moment
for like ten years.

1195
01:21:12,492 --> 01:21:15,120
{\an8}I've been modeling black holes
for ten years,

1196
01:21:15,579 --> 01:21:18,707
and finally it becomes real.

1197
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:20,333
[Lisa] Let's see what we could do

1198
01:21:20,417 --> 01:21:23,628
if we were to just use
the exact same script

1199
01:21:23,712 --> 01:21:26,172
without changing anything,
without any fine tuning,

1200
01:21:26,256 --> 01:21:28,300
to see what it will do.

1201
01:21:28,383 --> 01:21:30,343
[Joseph] Okay. That would be
very interesting to see.

1202
01:21:30,427 --> 01:21:33,763
Just out of curiosity.
To see if we can come up with one script

1203
01:21:33,847 --> 01:21:34,764
that could consistently...

1204
01:21:34,848 --> 01:21:36,683
all on microarcsecond scale.

1205
01:21:36,766 --> 01:21:40,520
So it does seem like kind of filling
in the vacuum with more.

1206
01:21:41,438 --> 01:21:45,358
So I guess we have two options
for response to zero baseline.

1207
01:21:45,483 --> 01:21:48,695
And in both it's producing more or less
the same image, right?

1208
01:21:48,778 --> 01:21:51,656
It doesn't make any
sense to use it in that.

1209
01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:55,243
It does actually, they do bring
extra information.

1210
01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:58,413
But it could be completely
extraneous information

1211
01:21:58,496 --> 01:22:01,583
Michael, I still haven't received an image
from Team Three, should I bug them?

1212
01:22:02,083 --> 01:22:03,001
Okay.

1213
01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:07,130
-Then it's going to be much much worse--
-Okay.

1214
01:22:07,213 --> 01:22:08,214
Sorry, real quick.

1215
01:22:08,381 --> 01:22:10,425
How much longer do you need
before you're ready?

1216
01:22:11,509 --> 01:22:13,845
Um, I don't know...

1217
01:22:14,262 --> 01:22:15,430
[Michael] Like 15 minutes?

1218
01:22:15,513 --> 01:22:17,182
Sure, if everything goes smoothly here,
15 minutes.

1219
01:22:17,265 --> 01:22:18,892
[Michael] How long does Team Three need?

1220
01:22:19,351 --> 01:22:21,269
Couple of minutes if it is working.

1221
01:22:21,353 --> 01:22:22,270
Let's just do that,

1222
01:22:22,354 --> 01:22:24,189
you can see the numbers,
if they look fine to you...

1223
01:22:24,272 --> 01:22:25,106
Okay.

1224
01:22:34,699 --> 01:22:35,617
Hey, I--

1225
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:37,369
I'm ready. I'm ready, yeah.

1226
01:22:40,121 --> 01:22:43,667
[overlapping conversations]

1227
01:22:44,334 --> 01:22:49,005
All right, so first we did a normalized
cross-correlation comparison

1228
01:22:49,089 --> 01:22:50,632
between all of the images.

1229
01:22:50,882 --> 01:22:55,595
A value of one is going to be a perfect
consistency between two images,

1230
01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:57,389
zero is pretty bad.

1231
01:22:57,931 --> 01:23:01,184
-So are we ready for the moment of truth?
-[audience simulates drum roll]

1232
01:23:01,518 --> 01:23:02,519
[all laugh]

1233
01:23:03,019 --> 01:23:05,021
Okay, I will scroll down.

1234
01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:06,231
[group] Oh, my God.

1235
01:23:06,356 --> 01:23:07,732
[group] Look at that.

1236
01:23:07,816 --> 01:23:09,317
[group] Wow!

1237
01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:14,698
[Katie] It's M87!

1238
01:23:14,781 --> 01:23:16,157
[all laughing]

1239
01:23:16,700 --> 01:23:19,661
We compared, basically pixel by pixel,

1240
01:23:19,744 --> 01:23:21,204
you know, how close the images were.

1241
01:23:23,498 --> 01:23:25,917
[Katie] We haven't talked at all
among the teams,

1242
01:23:26,001 --> 01:23:28,378
but these numbers tell us
that despite that,

1243
01:23:28,461 --> 01:23:31,089
we're all broadly seeing
the exact same structure,

1244
01:23:31,172 --> 01:23:32,799
so it's really promising.

1245
01:23:38,596 --> 01:23:40,348
[Sera]<i> It was surprisingly emotional.</i>

1246
01:23:41,683 --> 01:23:43,935
<i>You know it from</i>
<i>a mathematical point of view</i>

1247
01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:47,063
<i>and we've been looking at pictures</i>
<i>quite similar to that from our own models.</i>

1248
01:23:47,605 --> 01:23:51,401
But when you look at it and you have to
tell yourself that it's actually data,

1249
01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:55,905
that you're not seeing a simulation
but you're really looking at a black hole.

1250
01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:59,492
I found myself just with my cell phone
staring at it for hours.

1251
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,913
<i>What's going to have to happen now is,</i>

1252
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,833
<i>the whole collaboration has to</i>
<i>come together and agree.</i>

1253
01:24:11,755 --> 01:24:13,673
[Heino]<i> It's the same latitude as ALMA</i>

1254
01:24:15,091 --> 01:24:17,552
<i>This is a very, very critical phase</i>
<i>of the project.</i>

1255
01:24:18,636 --> 01:24:21,347
We have to bring very different people
with very different backgrounds

1256
01:24:21,431 --> 01:24:23,767
together to agree on something that

1257
01:24:24,684 --> 01:24:29,981
will be work representative of
200, 250 people.

1258
01:24:30,190 --> 01:24:32,317
[Shep]<i> That's a great question.</i>

1259
01:24:32,525 --> 01:24:34,569
I think that what would be best--

1260
01:24:34,944 --> 01:24:37,322
It's very easy to lose your credibility.

1261
01:24:37,655 --> 01:24:41,242
And the Event Horizon Telescope has
built up credibility over many years.

1262
01:24:42,744 --> 01:24:44,162
<i>We have to get it right.</i>

1263
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,210
[Sera]<i> How do you decide</i>
<i>what's the key essence?</i>

1264
01:24:51,002 --> 01:24:52,545
<i>What do we all agree on?</i>

1265
01:24:53,171 --> 01:24:55,590
This has been a discussion
and it's been contentious.

1266
01:24:56,257 --> 01:24:58,301
And it's probably not fully decided.

1267
01:25:01,179 --> 01:25:03,098
Yes, we do want to have a...

1268
01:25:03,973 --> 01:25:04,933
a single image,

1269
01:25:05,016 --> 01:25:06,935
but we do want to show
the variations as well.

1270
01:25:07,018 --> 01:25:08,603
[Katie] Yes, it's a compromise
we have to come up with.

1271
01:25:08,728 --> 01:25:12,232
Something that works.
That thing that works.

1272
01:25:12,482 --> 01:25:14,776
[Silke] I think it's not
what we want to show,

1273
01:25:14,859 --> 01:25:18,279
I think we should go for the best data set

1274
01:25:18,363 --> 01:25:20,698
and the best image of this,

1275
01:25:21,032 --> 01:25:24,202
easily reproducible for anybody
who wants to do it again.

1276
01:25:24,536 --> 01:25:26,579
I kind of like the average image

1277
01:25:26,704 --> 01:25:29,457
but since it's not consistent
with any data,

1278
01:25:29,541 --> 01:25:33,753
are we going to use this image
to do for instance a parameter estimation?

1279
01:25:37,382 --> 01:25:40,927
[Dimitrios]<i> Everybody came in with their</i>
<i>own funding, their own expectations,</i>

1280
01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:43,638
so it is all about convincing each other

1281
01:25:43,721 --> 01:25:46,224
and coercing each other
to find one way forward.

1282
01:25:46,307 --> 01:25:52,355
I mean, do you think there are unmodeled
systematics-- in the synthetic data...

1283
01:25:52,438 --> 01:25:53,898
<i>That made it very democratic,</i>

1284
01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:55,775
but it's not easy,

1285
01:25:56,192 --> 01:25:57,777
I will not lie.

1286
01:26:11,708 --> 01:26:15,211
[Ramesh]<i> I think the dream</i>
<i>of any physicist who studies black holes</i>

1287
01:26:16,588 --> 01:26:20,175
<i>is to be able to go through the horizon</i>
<i>and to the other side.</i>

1288
01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:28,516
<i>If I could take this trip,</i>

1289
01:26:30,351 --> 01:26:32,770
<i>having decided that I've had</i>
<i>enough of this world,</i>

1290
01:26:34,814 --> 01:26:35,857
<i>what would I see?</i>

1291
01:26:45,617 --> 01:26:48,494
[Shep]<i> Just as ancient explorers</i>
<i>were drawn to the sea,</i>

1292
01:26:49,495 --> 01:26:51,039
<i>we're drawn to the horizon.</i>

1293
01:26:54,959 --> 01:26:58,129
<i>We're drawn always to the limits.</i>

1294
01:27:03,676 --> 01:27:05,470
[Andy]<i> The horizon of a black hole</i>

1295
01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:10,350
<i>is the edge of our knowledge,</i>

1296
01:27:11,309 --> 01:27:13,937
<i>of our understanding of the universe.</i>

1297
01:27:16,940 --> 01:27:21,527
<i>And the great exciting problem</i>
<i>is to go beyond that edge.</i>

1298
01:27:27,867 --> 01:27:28,952
[Shep]<i> That's the ultimate.</i>

1299
01:27:29,744 --> 01:27:33,331
<i>That's the place</i>
<i>where there's no "beyond".</i>

1300
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,548
[Heino]<i> It's something that doesn't exist</i>

1301
01:27:42,632 --> 01:27:46,469
<i>as a physical, measurable part</i>
<i>of the universe.</i>

1302
01:27:48,054 --> 01:27:51,182
<i>But you personally could still go there</i>
<i>and experience it.</i>

1303
01:27:54,477 --> 01:27:56,229
<i>But you cannot tell anybody.</i>

1304
01:27:58,606 --> 01:28:00,775
<i>And you don't exist anymore</i>
<i>to the outside world.</i>

1305
01:28:05,154 --> 01:28:07,991
<i>People always make the link</i>
<i>intuitively to death.</i>

1306
01:28:31,639 --> 01:28:33,808
[Skype chime]

1307
01:28:42,483 --> 01:28:44,902
There they are! Smiling!

1308
01:28:45,278 --> 01:28:46,446
It's nice to see you again.

1309
01:28:46,529 --> 01:28:49,073
Miss you guys, miss you guys.

1310
01:28:49,198 --> 01:28:51,284
So we're free.

1311
01:28:53,036 --> 01:28:55,204
We've finished the paper.

1312
01:28:56,998 --> 01:28:58,791
That's why everybody's smiling.

1313
01:28:59,125 --> 01:29:00,835
I'm feeling pretty good.

1314
01:29:01,294 --> 01:29:03,588
<i>I must say I'm feeling amazingly good.</i>

1315
01:29:03,838 --> 01:29:08,009
<i>Simply because it has taken an amazingly</i>
<i>long time to actually get done.</i>

1316
01:29:08,092 --> 01:29:10,136
<i>It's a great relief.</i>

1317
01:29:10,595 --> 01:29:12,555
<i>It's nice to be able to...</i>

1318
01:29:13,056 --> 01:29:14,849
<i>to think about the</i>
<i>bigger picture a bit more,</i>

1319
01:29:14,974 --> 01:29:18,144
<i>I feel like, I spent a lot of time</i>
<i>getting really bogged down in--</i>

1320
01:29:18,311 --> 01:29:19,479
<i>You feel liberated.</i>

1321
01:29:19,562 --> 01:29:22,690
<i>Yeah, I feel liberated, to be able to</i>
<i>work out more what's going on,</i>

1322
01:29:22,774 --> 01:29:26,402
<i>and I feel like the result we have</i>
<i>is very compelling.</i>

1323
01:29:27,487 --> 01:29:32,325
[Andy] We've shown that
the soft hair can account

1324
01:29:33,076 --> 01:29:37,205
for all the information
that's stored in a black hole.

1325
01:29:38,706 --> 01:29:42,210
But we have to be very smart
about what to do next.

1326
01:29:42,668 --> 01:29:44,420
[Malcolm]<i> Yeah, absolutely right.</i>

1327
01:29:44,504 --> 01:29:47,256
[Andy] The big challenge is trying to show

1328
01:29:47,799 --> 01:29:49,675
not only that this could happen,

1329
01:29:49,759 --> 01:29:52,762
but that it does happen.
And that there's a mechanism

1330
01:29:52,887 --> 01:29:57,475
<i>for the flow of information</i>
<i>in and out of the black hole.</i>

1331
01:29:58,851 --> 01:30:01,437
<i>That is a much more complicated problem.</i>

1332
01:30:02,146 --> 01:30:04,107
That's what Stephen would
want us to be doing.

1333
01:30:06,859 --> 01:30:10,863
[Malcolm]<i> Are you coming to the--</i>
<i>this press release on the 15th?</i>

1334
01:30:14,075 --> 01:30:16,828
I'm, I'm hesitating.

1335
01:30:33,928 --> 01:30:35,221
[host]<i> Well, good afternoon.</i>

1336
01:30:35,638 --> 01:30:39,642
<i>Welcome to the press launch of the</i>
<i>final book by Professor Stephen Hawking.</i>

1337
01:30:40,309 --> 01:30:44,522
Now, up until his death he continued to
search for answers with his final paper,

1338
01:30:44,647 --> 01:30:47,275
a work with his long-time collaborators,

1339
01:30:47,525 --> 01:30:50,236
Professors Malcolm Perry
and Andy Strominger,

1340
01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:54,866
on one of the most puzzling problems
facing the scientific community today,

1341
01:30:54,991 --> 01:30:56,993
the information paradox.

1342
01:30:57,743 --> 01:31:01,664
So Malcolm, Andy, give us
a capsule summary of the paper.

1343
01:31:01,747 --> 01:31:04,083
Yeah, you know, it's a huge problem

1344
01:31:04,333 --> 01:31:06,961
that Stephen gave to us.

1345
01:31:07,795 --> 01:31:10,256
It took 50 years to understand

1346
01:31:10,381 --> 01:31:13,801
what a black hole was before you started
worrying about quantum...

1347
01:31:13,885 --> 01:31:16,179
<i>It'll be a decade before we know</i>

1348
01:31:16,262 --> 01:31:19,515
<i>whether this path is gonna get us</i>
<i>where we want to go.</i>

1349
01:31:20,349 --> 01:31:22,560
We also don't know that it can't.

1350
01:31:23,311 --> 01:31:28,065
And, I also have to confess,
not very scientific of me,

1351
01:31:29,025 --> 01:31:30,610
it has the right feel.

1352
01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:37,074
<i>I'm very excited to be part</i>
<i>of this grand adventure.</i>

1353
01:31:42,038 --> 01:31:44,749
-To Stephen.
-To Stephen.

1354
01:31:45,041 --> 01:31:47,376
-To soft hair.
-To soft hair.

1355
01:31:48,669 --> 01:31:51,756
And to the demise of
the information paradox.

1356
01:31:52,798 --> 01:31:54,300
And to the next paper.

1357
01:31:57,595 --> 01:31:58,721
[Andy]<i> It's a great life.</i>

1358
01:31:59,847 --> 01:32:01,557
<i>It's what life is about.</i>

1359
01:32:44,058 --> 01:32:48,229
[indistinct conversations]

1360
01:32:54,026 --> 01:32:56,654
-[laughing]
-I feel the same way.

1361
01:33:01,284 --> 01:33:04,912
[overlapping conversations]

1362
01:33:06,831 --> 01:33:09,292
Welcome to today's press conference.

1363
01:33:09,375 --> 01:33:12,670
{\an8}Brought to you by the National Science
Foundation and the Event Horizon--

1364
01:33:12,753 --> 01:33:14,088
{\an8}Good afternoon.

1365
01:33:14,171 --> 01:33:17,883
{\an8}We have very little time before the actual
announcement goes live

1366
01:33:17,967 --> 01:33:21,887
{\an8}across the globe, in six simultaneous
press conferences, so I will--

1367
01:33:21,971 --> 01:33:25,933
{\an8}<i>Buenos dias a todos, </i>today is an
extraordinary day for astronomy.

1368
01:33:27,018 --> 01:33:29,353
{\an8}[speaking Japanese]

1369
01:33:29,437 --> 01:33:30,438
{\an8}[overlapping announcements]

1370
01:33:30,521 --> 01:33:36,527
{\an8}What you're seeing here is the result
of many, many people working together.

1371
01:33:37,695 --> 01:33:39,280
Thank you, assembled guests,

1372
01:33:39,363 --> 01:33:40,906
black hole enthusiasts.

1373
01:33:41,115 --> 01:33:44,577
Black holes are the most mysterious
objects in the universe.

1374
01:33:45,328 --> 01:33:47,413
Now, we are members
of a large collaboration.

1375
01:33:47,997 --> 01:33:51,542
We are 200 members strong,
we have 60 institutes,

1376
01:33:51,834 --> 01:33:54,211
and we are working in
over 20 countries and regions.

1377
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,672
We worked for over a decade

1378
01:33:56,756 --> 01:34:00,009
to expose part of the universe
that was invisible to us before.

1379
01:34:00,843 --> 01:34:04,055
And we are delighted
to be able to report to you today

1380
01:34:04,305 --> 01:34:07,391
that we have seen what
we thought was unseeable.

1381
01:34:08,642 --> 01:34:12,730
We have seen,
and taken a picture of, a black hole.

1382
01:34:15,107 --> 01:34:16,192
<i>Here it is.</i>

1383
01:34:16,275 --> 01:34:18,152
[swelling instrumental music plays]

1384
01:34:19,862 --> 01:34:23,616
<i>We now have visual evidence</i>
<i>for the existence of a black hole.</i>

1385
01:34:24,533 --> 01:34:25,576
<i>We now know that</i>

1386
01:34:25,659 --> 01:34:28,829
<i>a black hole that weighs</i>
<i>6.5 billion times what our sun does</i>

1387
01:34:28,913 --> 01:34:31,165
<i>exists in the center of M87.</i>

1388
01:34:33,334 --> 01:34:35,461
<i>And this is just the beginning.</i>

1389
01:34:35,544 --> 01:34:37,630
[applause]

1390
01:34:37,713 --> 01:34:39,715
[music continues]

1391
01:34:48,724 --> 01:34:50,559
[no audible dialogue]

1392
01:34:52,770 --> 01:34:56,023
[no audible dialogue]

1393
01:35:08,828 --> 01:35:13,666
[no audible dialogue]

1394
01:35:41,193 --> 01:35:43,904
[gentle instrumental music plays]



