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[concertgoers cheering]

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[clapping rhythmically]

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[screaming and cheering]

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[Jane Wiedlin]
We are the first all-girl band

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that wrote their own material
and played

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their own instruments to be
really successful.

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[crowd cheering]

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Alright, this is for you
for being so nice.

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[cheering]

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[drumsticks tapping]

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[band playing
"Can't Stop the World"]

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♪♪♪

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♪ I gave up looking
for a reason ♪

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♪ To live with things
just the way they were ♪

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♪ I came around, used to be ♪

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♪ Easy to get to so they ♪

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♪ Got to me
in just about every way ♪

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♪ Caught with no cards up
your sleeve ♪

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♪ Not much to choose from ♪

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♪ Grew up all along ♪

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♪ Just thinking that you
couldn't lose ♪

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♪ I came around, used to be ♪

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♪ Easy to get to so they ♪

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♪ Got to me
in just about every way ♪

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♪ Can't stop the world ♪

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♪ Can't stop the world,
why let it stop you? ♪

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[Belinda Carlisle]
People automatically assumed

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that we were probably put
together by some guy,

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but we did it all ourselves.

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Let's go!

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[band playing
instrumental break]

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♪♪♪

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[Charlotte Caffey]
We got on stage,

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and it happened to be a group
of women really kicking ass.

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It was great.

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[Kathy Valentine]
One in a million bands

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gets to where we got.

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[Gina Schock] America knew
who The Go-Go's were.

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[male announcer]
These are The Go-Go's.

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Charlotte Caffey, Gina Schock,

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Jane Wiedlin, Kathy Valentine

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and Belinda Carlisle.

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The greatest all-girl group
of all time, The Go-Go's.

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[man] The Go-Go's!

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-[woman] The Go-Go's!
-[cheering]

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[Kathy] We were really making
big strides,

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loving what we were doing

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and being in that moment of,
like, wow!

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♪ Can't stop the world... ♪

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[Belinda] I couldn't walk down
the street at that time.

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That's how famous
The Go-Go's were.

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[Jane]
In the course of a year,

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we had gone from playing dive
bars to Madison Square Garden.

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♪ Can't stop the world ♪

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[Gina]
I was on top of the world,

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I felt like we had made it.

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[song ending]

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[crowd cheering and applauding]

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[instruments tuning]

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[Jane] There never would have
been The Go-Go's

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without the punk rock scene
in Los Angeles.

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[MC] Well, you got it!
From Hollywood, The Go-Go's!

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[Margot]
Happy Saint Patrick's Day.

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[crowd cheering]

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There's a problem
with the monitor here,

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and I'm getting shocked.

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Sorry.

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[Belinda] At the time,
there were 50 kids tops

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in the L.A. punk scene.

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It was D.I.Y.

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and if you were terrible
you were cooler,

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and anybody could
do whatever they wanted.

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It was total freedom.

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♪ Don't assume that we never
think ♪

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♪ You think you know
but you haven't a clue ♪

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-♪ 'Cause we're ♪
-♪ We're ♪

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-♪ Here...
-♪ Here ♪

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-♪ Now...
-♪ Now ♪

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♪ We don't need you around ♪

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[Elissa Bello] It was about
feeling emotion, anger, rage,

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and you got to express it.

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And the rawer the better.

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♪♪♪

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♪ Don't make the mistake
of criticizing ♪

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♪ Don't even bother
patronizing ♪

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I was such a punk,
it was like my identity.

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Being in The Go-Go's meant being
more involved in the scene

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with all your friends,
just a great sense of belonging.

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♪ ...around ♪

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♪ And we're... ♪

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[Charlotte] I was a little bit
of an outsider

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because I wasn't overtly
punk rock.

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You wouldn't think so
looking at me,

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I look really straight, but I
have a very twisted mind.

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♪♪♪

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We hated society
and our parents,

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but we supported each other.

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Everyone was welcome,

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outcasts, geeks, gays,
straights,

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people of color, women.

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It was inclusive.

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-♪ 'Cause we're ♪
-♪ We're ♪

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-♪ Here ♪
-♪ Here ♪

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-♪ Now ♪
-♪ Now ♪

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And that was a great place
for me to be,

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because I always
felt like I didn't fit in.

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I kind of have this image

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of being this really happy
person, and I can be.

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But I have this thing in me
that's just always there,

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like, ugh, urgh.

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I have a lifelong history
of depression.

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When I was 15,
I tried to kill myself.

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Right around that same time

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I was looking at
Women's Wear Daily

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and they had all these photos
of the London punk scene.

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Oh, my God,
it really spoke to me.

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I was like, "Ah, I want this!"

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So I just started making
my own punk clothes,

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and one weekend I went to
this store on Sunset Strip

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that was called
Granny Takes a Trip,

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and while I was in there
I met Pleasant Gehman.

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This little girl came in,
she had huge eyes.

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She looked like an anime
action figure.

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She had these shirts

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that had two zippers sewn in
over the boobs,

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and so, when you unzipped
them, you know,

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your bra or your bare boobs
would come out.

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[Jane] She told me that there
was a scene in Hollywood,

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a punk scene,

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and she gave me a flyer
for this club called The Masque.

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[punk band playing]

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[indistinct shouting]

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[feedback]

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In the punk scene, there was
just so much energy and anger.

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♪♪♪

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And having suppressed bad
feelings my whole life,

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the suicide attempt was
obviously it trying to come out,

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and then,
becoming a punk rocker,

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I felt was a really positive way
for it to come out.

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People used to cross the street
when they saw me.

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I felt powerful
for the first time.

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I just felt like I had
found my home.

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[Belinda] The punk scene gave me
an outlet to act out

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and be the badass
that I thought I was.

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I'm the oldest of seven kids.

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My father left when I was five.

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My stepfather was hardcore,

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very much an old-school
disciplinarian.

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We had no money.

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I remember growing up
and being in school

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and always feeling like I was
pretending to be something

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that I probably wasn't...

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I was a real good student,
I was a cheerleader.

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Does anybody have a cigarette?

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...But then, I discovered
the punk scene,

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and that opened up
a whole new world for me.

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[Pleasant] Everybody in the L.A.
punk rock scene,

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it was like there was invisible
smoke signals

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getting sent out of, like,
you know,

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"You need to go to this club
on that night."

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And the Sex Pistols were playing
at Winterland in San Francisco

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and pretty much
everybody in L.A. drove up.

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It was really like a religious
pilgrimage.

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They were just the kings of the
original, original punk scene.

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♪ Problem, problem, problem,
problem... ♪

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[Jane] The Sex Pistols gave
this, like, slacker performance

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that wasn't compelling at all.

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Johnny Rotten at the end
of the show

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said the famous quote of his.

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[Johnny laughing]

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Ever get the feeling
you've been cheated?

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Good night!

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[Jane]
You know, it was kind of like,

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"Oh, man,
you guys were our heroes"

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and they kind of suck.

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And it also felt like the first
wave of punk was sort of dying.

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It was time for some new people
to start doing something.

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I think that was the weekend
I actually got to know Margot,

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and then we started talking
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a girl band, actually.

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Everybody was in a band.

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I mean, it was like the cool
thing to be in a band

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and we were basically
the only people left

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that weren't in a band,
so we decided to do it too.

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[Margot] I met Elissa.

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She was one of my high school
friend's cousins.

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[Elissa]
Margot then met Belinda.

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[Belinda]
The punk scene was so small,

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so we all knew each other
vaguely.

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[Jane] Thinking about bands like
The Shirelles

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and The Shangri-Las,
it was exciting to think

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we could do the new version
of that.

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But this time, we were going
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[director]
With one little problem?

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That we didn't know how
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[laughing]

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[Margot]
Well, I wanted to play bass

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and I knew I would have
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[Elissa] I didn't have drums,
I had to go out and find drums.

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[playing guitar riff]

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[Jane] You know, I had a couple
of weeks of folk guitar lessons

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when I was 12,
I'll just play guitar.

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[Belinda singing indistinctly]

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I certainly thought
I could sing.

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I thought I sounded like
Julie Andrews. But...

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♪ We can do what we want
we can say... ♪

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[Jane] We didn't know what
we were doing.

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In the punk scene it was like,

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"Great, you don't know
what you're doing?

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Just fucking do it."

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We'd sort of been, like,
going over different names,

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nothing really seemed right.
Whatever--

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Was it The Misfits
was going to be,

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because that's how we sort of
felt at the time.

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At that time, The Kinks came out
with Misfits  the album,

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we thought, no, everyone will
think, you know,

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we stole it from them.

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So, The Go-Go's seemed
to fit us.

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[crowd cheering and clapping]

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I remember doing our first show.

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It was at the Masque.

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[Pleasant] Everyone was excited

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when The Go-Go's played
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Their set was three songs long

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and two of them
were the same song. [laughs]

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[Margot]
We only knew those songs,

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so it wasn't a matter
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[laughing]
We didn't need one.

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[Jane] There's one song about
Robert Hilburn

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who was a huge music critic
at the L.A. Times.

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[Belinda]
People were either laughing

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or completely mortified
in horror.

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It was a big, fat mess.

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[Margot]
I wasn't really intimidated

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about being as terrible
as we were in the beginning.

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That was the whole point,

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you can sound horrible
and still make music.

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[giggling]

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[Belinda]
I think that deep down inside

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we knew that we had something
really special,

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but we needed someone
that actually knew how to do it.

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[electrical feedback]

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Let's try plugging the amps
into the wall first,

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like, you know what I mean?

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When I was very, very young,
like, first and second grade,

249
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I had an Elvis Presley record

250
00:12:06,089 --> 00:12:09,172
and Johann Strauss
"Blue Danube Waltz".

251
00:12:09,255 --> 00:12:13,881
I would listen to both of them,
like put one on, dance around,

252
00:12:13,964 --> 00:12:16,172
put the other one on,
waltz around, yeah.

253
00:12:16,255 --> 00:12:18,172
[classical piano playing]

254
00:12:18,255 --> 00:12:21,005
I started playing piano
when I was four years old.

255
00:12:21,923 --> 00:12:24,422
At a very young age,
I was moved by music.

256
00:12:24,506 --> 00:12:26,964
I had an ear for music.

257
00:12:28,798 --> 00:12:32,923
I went to Immaculate Heart
College, taking classical piano.

258
00:12:35,005 --> 00:12:37,839
I loved it, but it was kind
of snotty attitude,

259
00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:41,381
like, some of these students
were just like, "Who are you?"

260
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[screaming]

261
00:12:42,881 --> 00:12:46,714
I started going to some of
the punk rock shows.

262
00:12:46,798 --> 00:12:49,881
The punk bands
just busted me open,

263
00:12:49,964 --> 00:12:52,631
knowing that all
this music theory,

264
00:12:52,714 --> 00:12:55,631
rules had to be
thrown out the window.

265
00:12:57,255 --> 00:13:00,547
♪ Don't talk to me ♪

266
00:13:00,631 --> 00:13:02,005
When I graduated college,

267
00:13:02,089 --> 00:13:05,297
my best friend Joe Ramirez
and I started a band.

268
00:13:05,381 --> 00:13:07,422
We named it The Eyes.

269
00:13:07,506 --> 00:13:09,673
It was one of the most
freeing things

270
00:13:09,756 --> 00:13:11,839
just to turn up our amps to ten,

271
00:13:11,923 --> 00:13:15,089
bash through
and just anything went.

272
00:13:15,172 --> 00:13:17,547
♪ Don't talk to me,
don't look at me ♪

273
00:13:17,631 --> 00:13:19,923
♪ Don't talk to me, oh yeah ♪

274
00:13:20,005 --> 00:13:23,714
"Don't talk to me, don't look at
me, don't talk to me..."

275
00:13:23,798 --> 00:13:25,631
That is like a feminist anthem

276
00:13:25,714 --> 00:13:28,089
for women of my generation.

277
00:13:29,297 --> 00:13:32,589
[Belinda] Margot and I went
to an Eyes show,

278
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where we thought,
"Oh, Charlotte."

279
00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:36,673
♪ Yeah ♪

280
00:13:36,756 --> 00:13:38,881
We thought she was perfect.

281
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[Charlotte]
I'm backstage,

282
00:13:42,172 --> 00:13:45,214
and I see these two sets of legs
walking up.

283
00:13:45,297 --> 00:13:48,339
One has spikey heels,

284
00:13:48,422 --> 00:13:52,130
ripped fishnets, a trash bag.

285
00:13:52,214 --> 00:13:53,923
That was Belinda.

286
00:13:54,005 --> 00:13:55,923
She said, "Hi, Charlotte.
"You know,

287
00:13:56,005 --> 00:13:58,589
we're starting this all-girl
band, do you wanna join?"

288
00:13:58,673 --> 00:14:00,756
And what am I gonna say, no?

289
00:14:04,214 --> 00:14:07,214
I was totally intimidated
by them

290
00:14:07,297 --> 00:14:08,964
because Jane and Belinda
and Margot,

291
00:14:09,047 --> 00:14:12,756
they're all like punks
and they're asking me,

292
00:14:12,839 --> 00:14:16,673
like the dork of all time,
to, like, join their band.

293
00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:19,547
So, I felt kind of special,
I guess.

294
00:14:23,047 --> 00:14:25,631
When they asked,
"Hey, do you play lead guitar?"

295
00:14:25,714 --> 00:14:27,631
I lied.

296
00:14:27,714 --> 00:14:30,047
I figured I played bass
so, you know,

297
00:14:30,130 --> 00:14:32,506
"Yeah, it's a couple more
strings, it'll be okay."

298
00:14:32,589 --> 00:14:33,798
[sighing]

299
00:14:33,881 --> 00:14:36,047
[guitar riff plays]

300
00:14:37,506 --> 00:14:41,506
We started rehearsing,

301
00:14:41,589 --> 00:14:46,673
but, you know, we were pretty
crappy in the beginning.

302
00:14:46,756 --> 00:14:48,589
We really didn't sound
that great.

303
00:14:48,673 --> 00:14:50,339
[Belinda singing indistinctly]

304
00:14:50,422 --> 00:14:53,839
[Ginger Canzoneri]
It was pretty screechy.

305
00:14:53,923 --> 00:14:57,005
I remember going into The Masque
one Saturday afternoon,

306
00:14:57,089 --> 00:14:58,881
hearing some music
and thinking,

307
00:14:58,964 --> 00:15:00,964
"Oh, who's rehearsing
down here today?"

308
00:15:01,047 --> 00:15:03,631
And then, opening a door
and seeing Belinda on stage

309
00:15:03,714 --> 00:15:05,464
holding a mic kind of awkwardly.

310
00:15:06,422 --> 00:15:09,005
I just thought,
"Oh, God, that's so great,

311
00:15:09,089 --> 00:15:11,923
women pulling together
to achieve something,"

312
00:15:12,005 --> 00:15:16,381
and I wanted to support
that cause and be part of it.

313
00:15:16,464 --> 00:15:19,214
I love communities of women.

314
00:15:19,297 --> 00:15:23,422
This band caught my interest
for that reason.

315
00:15:23,506 --> 00:15:25,923
[crowd cheering]

316
00:15:26,005 --> 00:15:28,881
This song's called
"Fashion Seekers."

317
00:15:28,964 --> 00:15:34,130
♪♪♪

318
00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:43,964
♪ Bland ideas
in a borrowed head ♪

319
00:15:44,047 --> 00:15:46,839
[Belinda] We saw no reason why
we couldn't be

320
00:15:46,923 --> 00:15:49,214
just as good as the boys or men.

321
00:15:49,297 --> 00:15:53,047
♪ They'll suck the shirt
right off of your back ♪

322
00:15:53,130 --> 00:15:56,297
We weren't going to be anything
but a great band.

323
00:16:00,130 --> 00:16:02,422
[Elissa] They were really
on the fast track

324
00:16:02,506 --> 00:16:04,172
and they wanted to get going.

325
00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:07,756
And so, they weren't going to
let anything stand in their way.

326
00:16:10,339 --> 00:16:12,881
[Jane]
Elissa was very, very eccentric.

327
00:16:14,005 --> 00:16:16,673
I don't know if she was shy
or an introvert,

328
00:16:16,756 --> 00:16:19,297
but she was never
really part of the gang.

329
00:16:19,381 --> 00:16:21,881
She always held herself apart.

330
00:16:21,964 --> 00:16:25,422
[Elissa] I was coming from
two different worlds.

331
00:16:25,506 --> 00:16:27,756
I had to answer to my employer

332
00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:30,756
and I had to answer to the band.

333
00:16:30,839 --> 00:16:34,047
And they wanted me to quit
my job, the girls,

334
00:16:34,130 --> 00:16:36,506
and be more dedicated.

335
00:16:36,589 --> 00:16:41,172
I stuck my toe in the water,
but I never dove in all the way.

336
00:16:41,255 --> 00:16:43,923
[Belinda] We definitely needed
to bring somebody in

337
00:16:44,005 --> 00:16:46,047
that wanted to be there.

338
00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:48,756
I happened to meet the girls
at a party one night,

339
00:16:48,839 --> 00:16:51,422
and um... that's how it started,
I invited 'em over for--

340
00:16:51,506 --> 00:16:54,214
You know, they said, "Oh, we're
looking for a drummer."

341
00:16:54,297 --> 00:16:56,255
"Oh, we're looking
for a drummer."

342
00:16:56,339 --> 00:16:59,005
And I said, "Great.
I'll try out for the band."

343
00:16:59,089 --> 00:17:00,756
♪ One, two, three, four ♪

344
00:17:00,839 --> 00:17:03,464
♪♪♪

345
00:17:03,547 --> 00:17:06,297
The amps are set up, they bring
their guitars, plug in,

346
00:17:06,381 --> 00:17:09,339
we play like three songs,
and it was like, done deal.

347
00:17:09,422 --> 00:17:11,130
♪ I buy you cologne ♪

348
00:17:11,214 --> 00:17:12,631
[Jane] Holy shit!

349
00:17:12,714 --> 00:17:15,172
I don't even know how
to describe the difference.

350
00:17:15,255 --> 00:17:18,714
It was really, like, ta-da!

351
00:17:19,714 --> 00:17:21,798
♪ I need promises... ♪

352
00:17:21,881 --> 00:17:25,464
[Elissa] The next thing I know
they found this other drummer.

353
00:17:25,547 --> 00:17:28,464
I was very upset and hurt.

354
00:17:28,547 --> 00:17:32,214
[Jane] When you kick people out
of bands, it's fucking tough.

355
00:17:32,297 --> 00:17:35,089
But at the time, these things
just seemed necessary

356
00:17:35,172 --> 00:17:37,297
and they seemed
for the good of the band.

357
00:17:37,381 --> 00:17:40,714
[Mrs. Schock] When she was 13
she would come home from school,

358
00:17:40,798 --> 00:17:42,130
go up into the front bedroom,

359
00:17:42,214 --> 00:17:45,881
put the earphones on
and bang on the drums.

360
00:17:45,964 --> 00:17:49,172
[Gina] A lot of girls weren't
playing drums back then and so,

361
00:17:49,255 --> 00:17:51,255
I got in a band
right away.

362
00:17:51,339 --> 00:17:54,339
We were Baltimore's first
new wave punk band.

363
00:17:54,422 --> 00:17:55,631
We had a lot of fun,

364
00:17:55,714 --> 00:17:58,589
but at that point I was like,
"I want to play in arenas,

365
00:17:58,673 --> 00:18:01,464
I don't want to stay playing
in clubs my whole life."

366
00:18:01,547 --> 00:18:03,172
♪♪♪

367
00:18:03,255 --> 00:18:05,339
When I left Baltimore
I told everybody,

368
00:18:05,422 --> 00:18:07,964
"The next time you see me,
I'm gonna be a rock star."

369
00:18:08,047 --> 00:18:11,214
I drove across country
with a dream and a camera.

370
00:18:11,297 --> 00:18:13,464
I was, like,
always taking pictures.

371
00:18:16,964 --> 00:18:19,631
I had $2000,
and two grams of coke.

372
00:18:19,714 --> 00:18:22,047
[laughing]

373
00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:25,214
[Belinda] I remember the first
time I met Gina,

374
00:18:25,297 --> 00:18:28,547
she had this frizzy blonde hair
and she was wearing overalls.

375
00:18:28,631 --> 00:18:31,297
She looked crazy, and I was
like, "I'm going to fix you."

376
00:18:31,381 --> 00:18:34,339
She needed a little bit of,
you know, punking up.

377
00:18:35,631 --> 00:18:39,547
So, we cut her hair,
dyed it black and she was ready.

378
00:18:41,381 --> 00:18:44,172
[Gina] Then, I was into taking
just Polaroids.

379
00:18:46,214 --> 00:18:49,214
The punk scene allowed you
to be whoever you wanted to be,

380
00:18:49,297 --> 00:18:51,881
play the way you wanted to play
and you fit in.

381
00:18:52,005 --> 00:18:53,255
You were accepted.

382
00:18:55,506 --> 00:18:58,923
Being in that setting
made me feel safe.

383
00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:02,923
And it just allowed us
a lot more freedom

384
00:19:03,005 --> 00:19:06,381
to do what we wanted to do.

385
00:19:06,464 --> 00:19:11,255
It's like a dream,
only you're really living it.

386
00:19:13,798 --> 00:19:17,339
Jane was just so cute and sweet
and bubbly

387
00:19:17,422 --> 00:19:19,130
and her little voice.

388
00:19:19,214 --> 00:19:22,172
We both had crushes on each
other, I guess you could say,

389
00:19:22,255 --> 00:19:24,506
but we were girlfriends
for a while.

390
00:19:25,673 --> 00:19:27,464
She was the boss
in the relationship,

391
00:19:27,547 --> 00:19:31,339
I was the new kid in town
and it made me feel comfortable.

392
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,547
Jane broke up with me.

393
00:19:37,798 --> 00:19:39,255
[laughing]

394
00:19:41,089 --> 00:19:44,130
It wasn't like either one of us
were heartbroken or anything.

395
00:19:44,214 --> 00:19:47,506
You think something like that's
going to fuck with the band?

396
00:19:47,589 --> 00:19:48,589
No way.

397
00:19:48,673 --> 00:19:51,964
♪ One, two, G-O, G-O... ♪

398
00:19:52,047 --> 00:19:54,005
[Charlotte] What Gina brought,

399
00:19:54,089 --> 00:19:55,881
besides being a really
amazing drummer,

400
00:19:55,964 --> 00:19:57,756
is that she made us work hard.

401
00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:01,422
She said, "You guys have
to rehearse every single night."

402
00:20:01,506 --> 00:20:03,923
And we're just like,
"What are you talking about?"

403
00:20:04,005 --> 00:20:06,506
[Gina] Hey, it doesn't hurt
to rehearse,

404
00:20:06,589 --> 00:20:08,464
it only makes you tighter.

405
00:20:08,547 --> 00:20:11,756
I mean, I was determined
to whip them into shape.

406
00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:17,255
Because I felt there was
something magical there,

407
00:20:17,339 --> 00:20:19,172
you just needed to push it more.

408
00:20:19,255 --> 00:20:21,339
You needed to get the girls
to be more focused

409
00:20:21,422 --> 00:20:23,756
and more serious
about what they're doing.

410
00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:25,214
[Belinda] She was right.

411
00:20:25,297 --> 00:20:29,589
We improved and it pushed us
to another level.

412
00:20:29,673 --> 00:20:32,130
[Gina] And I was on fire!

413
00:20:35,089 --> 00:20:39,255
I was sitting at home,
it was about midnight,

414
00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,339
I was watching
The Twilight Zone.

415
00:20:41,422 --> 00:20:43,506
[TV announcer]
You're flying to a new planet,

416
00:20:43,589 --> 00:20:47,255
a planet of light,
of darkness and the in-between.

417
00:20:48,673 --> 00:20:50,381
[Charlotte]
I wanted to write a song

418
00:20:50,464 --> 00:20:53,172
and I was listening to the music
all day long.

419
00:20:53,255 --> 00:20:55,422
I really wanted to write
something with a beat.

420
00:20:55,506 --> 00:20:57,714
I was hearing something
in my mind.

421
00:20:57,798 --> 00:20:58,756
[clock ticking]

422
00:20:58,839 --> 00:21:02,130
I was just sitting there
minding my own business

423
00:21:02,214 --> 00:21:04,047
and all of a sudden
this whole melody,

424
00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:08,547
this whole idea came to my mind
and I was like, "Oh, shit."

425
00:21:09,464 --> 00:21:11,381
I ran and got my little
cassette player.

426
00:21:11,464 --> 00:21:13,881
[beginning notes of
"We Got The Beat" plays]

427
00:21:13,964 --> 00:21:15,047
And I wrote the song,

428
00:21:15,130 --> 00:21:18,464
it was like five minutes,
it just all came out.

429
00:21:18,547 --> 00:21:21,130
The zone of writing,
I don't know what happens,

430
00:21:21,214 --> 00:21:22,881
but I can get to that place
and boom,

431
00:21:22,964 --> 00:21:25,547
just these ideas just start
flowing and it's like,

432
00:21:25,631 --> 00:21:28,547
it's pretty... pretty phenomenal
when it happens.

433
00:21:31,255 --> 00:21:35,214
Back then, I didn't have
a sense of myself.

434
00:21:36,172 --> 00:21:38,047
Songwriting was
so important to me,

435
00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,255
it was my identity,
my safety zone.

436
00:21:43,589 --> 00:21:46,047
And so, with "We Got The Beat"
I was terrified.

437
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:47,214
I was thinking, "Man,

438
00:21:47,297 --> 00:21:49,756
these girls are going to throw
me out of this band"

439
00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:51,881
because it was a pop song.

440
00:21:52,923 --> 00:21:55,631
♪ See the people
walking down the street  ♪

441
00:21:55,714 --> 00:21:58,005
[Belinda] I don't remember her
being nervous,

442
00:21:58,089 --> 00:22:00,422
I just remember thinking
it was an amazing song.

443
00:22:00,506 --> 00:22:03,297
I mean, it's just so obvious.

444
00:22:03,381 --> 00:22:05,130
[Margot]
We all loved it right away.

445
00:22:05,214 --> 00:22:07,923
♪ They got the beat,
they got the beat ♪

446
00:22:08,005 --> 00:22:10,506
♪ They got the beat ♪

447
00:22:11,881 --> 00:22:14,547
[Gina] When she started playing
that eighth-note riff,

448
00:22:14,631 --> 00:22:18,464
the pattern that I play on the
drums just poured out of me.

449
00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:21,923
It was "do-do da-da
do-do da-da."

450
00:22:22,005 --> 00:22:22,798
[drumming]

451
00:22:22,881 --> 00:22:24,464
[Jane]
I felt like we had arrived.

452
00:22:24,547 --> 00:22:28,464
It was definitely another step
up that ladder.

453
00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:30,923
[Charlotte]
Fortunately, they just loved it.

454
00:22:31,005 --> 00:22:35,923
♪♪♪

455
00:22:37,714 --> 00:22:40,881
And I believe that changed
the trajectory of the band.

456
00:22:40,964 --> 00:22:45,881
♪♪♪

457
00:22:50,714 --> 00:22:53,464
♪ Go-Go music really
makes us dance ♪

458
00:22:53,547 --> 00:22:55,631
We were rough sounding
when we played live,

459
00:22:55,714 --> 00:22:59,214
but we had these songs
that were just coming together.

460
00:22:59,297 --> 00:23:00,881
♪ That's when we fall in line ♪

461
00:23:00,964 --> 00:23:04,506
Just doing those little shows,
it was a really cool time.

462
00:23:04,589 --> 00:23:07,464
[Gina] We were the house band
at The Whisky.

463
00:23:08,464 --> 00:23:10,547
So, we would open up
for whatever bands

464
00:23:10,631 --> 00:23:11,839
would come into town.

465
00:23:11,923 --> 00:23:15,005
Madness came into town and they
were English, you know,

466
00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:16,339
we loved that.

467
00:23:16,422 --> 00:23:19,005
[Thompson] All-girl band writing
their own tunes?

468
00:23:19,089 --> 00:23:20,839
I mean, outrageous.

469
00:23:20,923 --> 00:23:24,172
Yeah, we got it!

470
00:23:24,255 --> 00:23:26,214
♪ We got the beat ♪

471
00:23:26,297 --> 00:23:28,005
Come on, don't be too cool.

472
00:23:28,089 --> 00:23:29,923
[Gina]
They thought we were great

473
00:23:30,005 --> 00:23:32,839
and they went back and spread
the word about The Go-Go's.

474
00:23:32,923 --> 00:23:37,255
And then, The Specials came
and we opened for them.

475
00:23:37,339 --> 00:23:40,130
One of the best things that
happened for The Go-Go's

476
00:23:40,214 --> 00:23:41,631
was meeting us, you know,

477
00:23:41,714 --> 00:23:45,589
and I would say probably one
of the best thing happened to us

478
00:23:45,673 --> 00:23:47,214
was meeting The Go-Go's.

479
00:23:50,464 --> 00:23:54,923
They were young, they were
fresh, they were beautiful.

480
00:23:55,005 --> 00:23:58,464
We are a bunch of misfits,
of course, that's why it works!

481
00:23:58,547 --> 00:24:00,881
[Gina] Their manager started
talking with Ginger

482
00:24:00,964 --> 00:24:02,756
about how to bring us over
to England

483
00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:05,964
so we could tour
with both bands.

484
00:24:06,047 --> 00:24:08,756
[Ginger] Somebody from The
Specials came to me and said,

485
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,047
"We're planning
a seaside tour in England.

486
00:24:11,130 --> 00:24:14,881
Do you think your band might be
able to get over there?"

487
00:24:14,964 --> 00:24:16,464
And I said, "Yes!"

488
00:24:17,506 --> 00:24:19,881
I did a lot of pawning
of jewelry

489
00:24:19,964 --> 00:24:21,547
and selling a lot of things

490
00:24:21,631 --> 00:24:24,631
to be able to get the girls
over on that trip.

491
00:24:25,506 --> 00:24:27,172
[Belinda] She sold everything.

492
00:24:27,255 --> 00:24:30,339
Her car,
she put her whole life on sale

493
00:24:30,422 --> 00:24:32,673
basically to fund us
to get to London.

494
00:24:34,547 --> 00:24:37,255
[Charlotte] My dad was in
the entertainment industry,

495
00:24:37,339 --> 00:24:40,673
but he was not behind me
being in this band.

496
00:24:41,464 --> 00:24:43,631
He said,
"Hey, there's an opening

497
00:24:43,714 --> 00:24:46,756
at the music library
at Paramount."

498
00:24:47,881 --> 00:24:51,464
I remember it was like
a really good-paying job,

499
00:24:51,547 --> 00:24:54,631
and I just said to him, I said,
"I can't,"

500
00:24:54,714 --> 00:24:57,422
because inside of me
I had to leave.

501
00:24:57,506 --> 00:24:59,839
I had to do this,
I had to do it.

502
00:24:59,923 --> 00:25:02,714
♪♪♪

503
00:25:02,798 --> 00:25:05,255
♪ Seen your pictures
in the 'zines ♪

504
00:25:05,339 --> 00:25:07,089
♪ And you look real good ♪

505
00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,464
♪ Pale blank faces,
black and white keen ♪

506
00:25:09,547 --> 00:25:11,798
♪ London boys, cigarette lean ♪

507
00:25:11,881 --> 00:25:13,714
♪ London boys,
wish you were here ♪

508
00:25:13,798 --> 00:25:16,673
[Jane] Because the punk rock
scene had started in England,

509
00:25:16,756 --> 00:25:18,881
all the bands that we worshipped
were English.

510
00:25:18,964 --> 00:25:21,381
I mean, England was always,
for us,

511
00:25:21,464 --> 00:25:24,547
ground zero of great rock music.

512
00:25:24,631 --> 00:25:26,714
It was like Mecca!
[laughing]

513
00:25:29,547 --> 00:25:31,547
[Golding]
When The Go-Go's come over here,

514
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:34,714
walking around the city is just
really, really bleak.

515
00:25:34,798 --> 00:25:38,339
Shite, absolutely grim, grey.

516
00:25:38,422 --> 00:25:41,631
It wasn't a very nice place
to be.

517
00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:45,464
There seemed to be an air
of something's about to go off.

518
00:25:45,547 --> 00:25:49,839
♪ We're living
in gangster times ♪

519
00:25:50,798 --> 00:25:52,547
Don't call me Scarface!

520
00:25:52,631 --> 00:25:56,881
[Jane] The Specials
and Madness were both ska bands

521
00:25:56,964 --> 00:25:59,214
and they were stars.

522
00:25:59,297 --> 00:26:02,547
We felt like having these
opening slots with two bands

523
00:26:02,631 --> 00:26:04,506
that were at the top
of their game

524
00:26:04,589 --> 00:26:06,964
and were very, very
successful there,

525
00:26:07,047 --> 00:26:09,214
that, I mean, how could we fail?

526
00:26:09,297 --> 00:26:12,839
♪♪♪

527
00:26:12,923 --> 00:26:16,172
[Margot] It was our first time
touring in a tour bus

528
00:26:16,255 --> 00:26:17,756
and playing every night.

529
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:21,923
♪ The street lights
are shining bright ♪

530
00:26:22,005 --> 00:26:25,005
♪ The billboards are shedding
their light ♪

531
00:26:25,089 --> 00:26:26,506
[glass breaking]

532
00:26:26,589 --> 00:26:29,214
♪ My crowd's hanging around ♪

533
00:26:29,297 --> 00:26:31,255
[Charlotte]
We were being spit at,

534
00:26:31,339 --> 00:26:33,881
stuff thrown at us
every single night.

535
00:26:35,089 --> 00:26:38,047
[Jane] Ska music attracted a
bunch of the white nationalists,

536
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,255
they called themselves the
National Front in England.

537
00:26:41,339 --> 00:26:43,506
And they hated us!

538
00:26:43,589 --> 00:26:45,589
First of all, we were not ska,

539
00:26:45,673 --> 00:26:48,547
so what the hell were we doing
opening for these ska bands?

540
00:26:48,631 --> 00:26:50,798
Second of all,
we we're Americans.

541
00:26:50,881 --> 00:26:54,714
And third of all, maybe worst
of all, we were chicks.

542
00:26:57,631 --> 00:26:59,172
[Belinda] No, we don't do
that...

543
00:26:59,255 --> 00:27:00,506
[crowd jeering]

544
00:27:00,589 --> 00:27:03,214
[Belinda] You know, here are
these five little girls

545
00:27:03,297 --> 00:27:04,422
from southern California,

546
00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:07,964
get up on stage and play
to these scary skinheads.

547
00:27:08,047 --> 00:27:09,881
It was frightening.

548
00:27:09,964 --> 00:27:13,089
[Thompson] One venue, a fella
was standing people in a line

549
00:27:13,172 --> 00:27:16,714
with a razor,
and another fella with a hammer.

550
00:27:19,547 --> 00:27:21,589
[Jane]
The tours were not going at all

551
00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:24,422
like we thought they were going
to go.

552
00:27:24,506 --> 00:27:25,756
But at the same time,

553
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,923
we were also having the time
of our lives.

554
00:27:28,964 --> 00:27:31,005
There was like a lot of romances
going on

555
00:27:31,089 --> 00:27:32,422
between the band members.

556
00:27:32,506 --> 00:27:35,381
But it was good 'cause we all
had boyfriends in like, Madness

557
00:27:35,464 --> 00:27:39,047
or The Specials to console us
when we got off stage.

558
00:27:39,130 --> 00:27:41,339
[Golding]
Gina is... I love her.

559
00:27:41,422 --> 00:27:43,798
"I just didn't know how
to come and approach you."

560
00:27:43,881 --> 00:27:45,589
I should've asked you
to marry me

561
00:27:45,673 --> 00:27:47,631
and you probably would've
said no,

562
00:27:47,714 --> 00:27:49,339
but I'd have felt better
that I asked.

563
00:27:49,422 --> 00:27:52,005
We had such a good laugh,
oh, she's lovely she is.

564
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,964
[Jane] I met Terry.
He was in The Specials.

565
00:27:58,047 --> 00:28:00,381
We were very attracted
to each other.

566
00:28:00,464 --> 00:28:02,673
We spent a lot of time together
on the tour

567
00:28:02,756 --> 00:28:04,631
and it was kind of
sort of a romance,

568
00:28:04,714 --> 00:28:07,005
but, I mean, he had a
girlfriend, and supposedly,

569
00:28:07,089 --> 00:28:09,589
she was a fiancée and they were
going to get married.

570
00:28:09,673 --> 00:28:12,047
And I don't know what I was
thinking.

571
00:28:12,130 --> 00:28:15,714
You know, I just thought it was
this big, important romance.

572
00:28:19,631 --> 00:28:20,673
[Ginger] Behind the scenes,

573
00:28:20,756 --> 00:28:23,297
I was bringing their cassette
tapes around.

574
00:28:23,381 --> 00:28:25,714
Stiff Records might have been
a small label,

575
00:28:25,798 --> 00:28:28,381
but they had a group
of dedicated people.

576
00:28:28,464 --> 00:28:30,714
[Dave Robinson]
I think Ginger asked us

577
00:28:30,798 --> 00:28:33,339
whether we would like
to sign them,

578
00:28:33,422 --> 00:28:35,881
but I thought an American
punk girl band

579
00:28:36,005 --> 00:28:38,255
who are objecting to
being spit at,

580
00:28:38,339 --> 00:28:41,464
I don't know
that it's going to really work.

581
00:28:41,547 --> 00:28:44,714
But I remember seeing
"We've Got the Beat"

582
00:28:44,798 --> 00:28:46,214
as a potential single,

583
00:28:46,297 --> 00:28:51,214
which was my talent
to find the door opener.

584
00:28:51,297 --> 00:28:53,339
I tried to publish the song

585
00:28:53,422 --> 00:28:55,255
'cause I could see
that it would do well.

586
00:28:55,339 --> 00:28:58,756
They were really pressuring
about the publishing,

587
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:00,172
and I had been told

588
00:29:00,255 --> 00:29:02,339
that that was something
you don't give up.

589
00:29:02,422 --> 00:29:06,673
Ginger, I think,
was a bit more knowledgeable

590
00:29:06,756 --> 00:29:09,506
about the idea of hold onto
what you've got.

591
00:29:09,589 --> 00:29:11,673
[Jane] Thank dog she knew

592
00:29:11,756 --> 00:29:13,923
an artist needs to keep
their publishing,

593
00:29:14,005 --> 00:29:17,673
because really it's one of
the only ways to make money,

594
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:21,714
and it's very valuable and it's
valuable for a lifetime.

595
00:29:21,798 --> 00:29:23,839
[Ginger] Well,
I stuck to my guns

596
00:29:23,923 --> 00:29:27,422
and signed this one single deal
with Stiff Records.

597
00:29:27,506 --> 00:29:32,214
♪♪♪

598
00:29:32,297 --> 00:29:36,214
[Gina reading] "Friday,
June the 6th in Bridlington.

599
00:29:36,297 --> 00:29:40,798
"Tonight was okay, the audience
were rude but we played fair.

600
00:29:40,881 --> 00:29:43,255
"Bridlington was pretty shitty.

601
00:29:43,339 --> 00:29:46,714
Oh, well,
I guess we'll try harder".

602
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,047
[Charlotte]
We were just determined, like,

603
00:29:50,130 --> 00:29:52,005
"We're gonna show
those fuckers."

604
00:29:52,089 --> 00:29:53,673
Every night, we'd get on stage

605
00:29:53,756 --> 00:29:56,798
and we would be so belligerent
with our playing,

606
00:29:56,881 --> 00:30:00,589
and just being even more
of who we were.

607
00:30:00,673 --> 00:30:03,506
♪ And you're the one to blame ♪

608
00:30:03,589 --> 00:30:05,839
♪ I used to know my name ♪

609
00:30:05,923 --> 00:30:09,673
♪ But I've lost control
of the game ♪

610
00:30:11,005 --> 00:30:13,422
♪ 'Cause even though I set
the rules ♪

611
00:30:13,506 --> 00:30:16,047
♪ You've got me acting
like a fool ♪

612
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:18,964
[Margot] They were really wild,
crazy audiences,

613
00:30:19,047 --> 00:30:21,130
but we made fans, as well.

614
00:30:21,214 --> 00:30:22,798
♪ Lust to love ♪

615
00:30:22,881 --> 00:30:25,130
♪ Was the last thing I was
dreaming of ♪

616
00:30:25,214 --> 00:30:27,589
♪ And now all I want is
just to love ♪

617
00:30:27,673 --> 00:30:31,005
♪ Lust turned to love ♪

618
00:30:31,089 --> 00:30:34,214
[Golding] They're grew,
they proved themselves,

619
00:30:34,297 --> 00:30:36,839
and for The Go-Go's to pick
themselves from L.A.

620
00:30:36,923 --> 00:30:38,714
and come to London, you know,

621
00:30:38,798 --> 00:30:41,547
wow, respect to them girls,
man, you know.

622
00:30:42,881 --> 00:30:45,130
[Thompson] Their musicianship
compared to us

623
00:30:45,214 --> 00:30:46,631
was second to none.

624
00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:50,130
They taught me a thing or two.

625
00:30:51,214 --> 00:30:52,339
♪ Lust to love ♪

626
00:30:52,422 --> 00:30:53,923
[Gina] There was nothing much

627
00:30:54,005 --> 00:30:56,130
that we couldn't handle
at that point.

628
00:30:56,214 --> 00:30:57,631
♪ Just to love ♪

629
00:30:57,714 --> 00:31:00,714
♪ Lust turned to love ♪

630
00:31:00,798 --> 00:31:03,047
♪ Lust to love ♪

631
00:31:03,130 --> 00:31:05,964
It was us against the world,

632
00:31:06,047 --> 00:31:10,130
and I think we were ready to
take it to the next level.

633
00:31:10,214 --> 00:31:14,130
♪♪♪

634
00:31:14,214 --> 00:31:18,464
Our Stiff Records single was
the key that unlocked the door.

635
00:31:18,547 --> 00:31:22,964
People were able to buy
the single in Los Angeles.

636
00:31:24,673 --> 00:31:28,964
KROQ-AM in Burbank
and KROQ-FM in Pasadena,

637
00:31:29,047 --> 00:31:31,047
we're live on the rocks.

638
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:33,881
Okay, here's The Go-Go's,
"We Got The Beat."

639
00:31:33,964 --> 00:31:35,756
[Jane] When we did come back,

640
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:38,506
it was like the triumphant
return of the home girls,

641
00:31:38,589 --> 00:31:40,047
The Go-Go's!

642
00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:42,381
Everyone thought we were huge
stars in England

643
00:31:42,464 --> 00:31:45,339
and we were not telling them
anything different.

644
00:31:45,422 --> 00:31:47,673
[Belinda]
I remember doing our first show

645
00:31:47,756 --> 00:31:50,589
after we got back
at the Starwood.

646
00:31:50,673 --> 00:31:53,673
There were kids wrapped around
the block to get in to see us.

647
00:31:53,756 --> 00:31:55,631
We were like,
"Whoa, what happened?"

648
00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:57,589
And I guess our strategy worked.

649
00:31:57,673 --> 00:32:02,839
♪♪♪

650
00:32:06,464 --> 00:32:10,381
I was in the Starwood one night
and The Go-Go's were playing,

651
00:32:10,464 --> 00:32:12,547
and they had been in England.

652
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:15,964
♪ Go-Go music really
makes us dance ♪

653
00:32:16,047 --> 00:32:19,589
It was packed
and everyone was going crazy.

654
00:32:19,673 --> 00:32:22,214
That's when they got more
of my attention.

655
00:32:22,297 --> 00:32:24,422
I thought,
"Okay, they're going places."

656
00:32:24,506 --> 00:32:27,506
♪ 'Cause we got the beat,
we got the beat ♪

657
00:32:27,589 --> 00:32:29,839
♪ We got the beat ♪

658
00:32:29,923 --> 00:32:33,381
♪ Yeah, we got it ♪

659
00:32:33,464 --> 00:32:35,214
♪ We got the beat ♪

660
00:32:35,297 --> 00:32:38,255
The difference from before
that tour and after the tour

661
00:32:38,339 --> 00:32:40,130
was just stunning.

662
00:32:40,214 --> 00:32:41,547
♪ We got the beat ♪

663
00:32:41,631 --> 00:32:44,214
I was like, "Oh, my God,
this is going to be huge."

664
00:32:44,297 --> 00:32:46,339
-♪ We got the beat ♪
-♪ We got the beat ♪

665
00:32:46,422 --> 00:32:48,255
♪ We got the beat ♪

666
00:32:48,339 --> 00:32:50,130
-♪ We got the beat ♪
-♪ We got the beat ♪

667
00:32:50,214 --> 00:32:52,089
-♪ We got the beat ♪
-♪ We got the beat ♪

668
00:32:52,172 --> 00:32:54,381
♪ We got the beat ♪

669
00:32:54,464 --> 00:32:56,297
[crowd cheering]

670
00:32:56,381 --> 00:32:58,756
[Jane] People would freak out
when we played.

671
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:00,089
It was great.

672
00:33:00,172 --> 00:33:03,881
I mean, we felt like we were
at the top of our game,

673
00:33:03,964 --> 00:33:06,047
and yet we couldn't get anywhere
with it.

674
00:33:12,297 --> 00:33:14,673
[Ginger] I had a file folder
of rejection letters

675
00:33:14,756 --> 00:33:16,422
from record labels
in Los Angeles.

676
00:33:16,506 --> 00:33:20,464
"Thanks, but you know, all-girl
bands just don't sell records."

677
00:33:21,381 --> 00:33:23,422
[Belinda] They wouldn't sign us
we were told

678
00:33:23,506 --> 00:33:26,297
because we were girls, and
there'd been no predecessor

679
00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:27,756
that had been that successful.

680
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,297
There'd been The Runaways,

681
00:33:29,381 --> 00:33:33,631
but we put ourselves together,
we had no Svengali.

682
00:33:33,714 --> 00:33:35,255
[Gina] It was ridiculous.

683
00:33:35,339 --> 00:33:38,756
Okay, we were girls,
but look at what we're doing.

684
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,130
You know,
close your eyes and listen.

685
00:33:41,214 --> 00:33:44,297
♪ I know a cat who can
really do the cool jerk ♪

686
00:33:44,381 --> 00:33:46,589
[Belinda] Through the years
I've been asked,

687
00:33:46,673 --> 00:33:48,381
"Were you feminists?"

688
00:33:48,464 --> 00:33:52,589
We were, I realize it now,
because of our attitudes,

689
00:33:52,673 --> 00:33:55,381
but we weren't, "We're going
to do this against the guys

690
00:33:55,464 --> 00:33:57,881
and you know, fuck them,"
that kind of thing.

691
00:33:57,964 --> 00:33:59,130
We weren't like that at all.

692
00:33:59,214 --> 00:34:01,172
♪ When they see me
walking down the street ♪

693
00:34:01,255 --> 00:34:02,839
We thought anything
was possible,

694
00:34:02,923 --> 00:34:05,089
including succeeding
in that industry

695
00:34:05,172 --> 00:34:06,798
that was run by men.

696
00:34:06,881 --> 00:34:10,673
♪ They know I'm the queen
of the cool jerk ♪

697
00:34:10,756 --> 00:34:12,381
♪ Oh cool jerk ♪

698
00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:15,172
[Kathleen Hanna] Knowing
about being a woman in a band

699
00:34:15,255 --> 00:34:18,339
and how many obstacles
they'd had to face,

700
00:34:18,422 --> 00:34:22,172
that the response isn't,
"I'm going to quit."

701
00:34:22,255 --> 00:34:23,547
[Belinda]
Bring it down!

702
00:34:23,631 --> 00:34:26,422
Whooooo!

703
00:34:26,506 --> 00:34:29,714
It's, "Thank you, assholes,
for telling me I can't do this.

704
00:34:29,798 --> 00:34:31,089
Thanks for the inspiration,

705
00:34:31,172 --> 00:34:33,297
now watch me get my next
hit single."

706
00:34:33,381 --> 00:34:38,005
[guitar playing]

707
00:34:40,089 --> 00:34:42,714
[Jane]
After we got home from England,

708
00:34:42,798 --> 00:34:45,923
I would move back and forth
from my parents' all the time

709
00:34:46,005 --> 00:34:48,923
because I'd run out of money.

710
00:34:49,005 --> 00:34:51,172
Terry stayed in touch.

711
00:34:51,255 --> 00:34:53,547
He would send me letters,
and in one letter

712
00:34:53,631 --> 00:34:56,547
he talked about how he dreamed
of having his own band.

713
00:34:56,631 --> 00:34:58,214
and he sent me a bunch
of lyrics.

714
00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,839
And he said, "I'm going to write
these songs."

715
00:35:02,881 --> 00:35:05,631
[Jane singing lyrics]

716
00:35:12,089 --> 00:35:15,964
I saw the lyrical beginning
to "Our Lips Are Sealed."

717
00:35:31,297 --> 00:35:33,339
And even though I'd gotten
a little bit lazy

718
00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:36,297
about writing music because
Charlotte was so good at it,

719
00:35:36,381 --> 00:35:38,798
I figured, why should
I bother, I'll just do lyrics.

720
00:35:38,881 --> 00:35:41,839
But this time, I actually went
back to writing music.

721
00:35:56,422 --> 00:35:58,339
I just thought it was such
a good song.

722
00:35:58,422 --> 00:35:59,506
I was so in love with it.

723
00:35:59,589 --> 00:36:01,839
I didn't show it to the band
for weeks and weeks

724
00:36:01,923 --> 00:36:04,214
'cause I was so afraid
if they didn't like it,

725
00:36:04,297 --> 00:36:06,381
what was I gonna do?
I was gonna... die.

726
00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:09,923
[Belinda] I remember hearing
that song for the first time.

727
00:36:10,005 --> 00:36:11,756
I was completely blown away
with it.

728
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:13,422
♪ No secrets to reveal ♪

729
00:36:13,506 --> 00:36:16,631
Because of Jane's not being
a trained musician and writer,

730
00:36:16,714 --> 00:36:19,297
the chord progression
in that song is so unusual.

731
00:36:19,381 --> 00:36:21,297
♪ ...people play ♪

732
00:36:21,381 --> 00:36:23,297
It really got your attention.

733
00:36:23,381 --> 00:36:25,839
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪

734
00:36:25,923 --> 00:36:28,381
♪ Pay no mind to what
they say ♪

735
00:36:28,464 --> 00:36:32,214
[Charlotte] We started writing
more melodic songs,

736
00:36:32,297 --> 00:36:35,756
and we got this hybrid
of pop and punk.

737
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,964
♪ Hush now darling,
our lips are sealed ♪

738
00:36:39,047 --> 00:36:40,923
♪ Hush now... ♪

739
00:36:41,005 --> 00:36:43,422
[microphone feedback]

740
00:36:43,506 --> 00:36:46,464
It was changing and some people
didn't like the change.

741
00:36:48,839 --> 00:36:50,631
[Margot]
My identity as a punk,

742
00:36:50,714 --> 00:36:52,464
I was so absorbed in the scene,

743
00:36:52,547 --> 00:36:57,047
it was my life, my lifestyle,
my everything.

744
00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:59,422
Oh, yeah, Margot, fuck, man,
yeah, she hated it.

745
00:36:59,506 --> 00:37:01,881
She's like, "I don't want
to be a fucking pop band!

746
00:37:01,964 --> 00:37:03,798
I'm in a punk band."

747
00:37:03,881 --> 00:37:07,673
And I don't know, I think
the rest of us were like,

748
00:37:07,756 --> 00:37:09,464
this is evolving,

749
00:37:09,547 --> 00:37:13,172
so fucking get with it
or get out, I don't know.

750
00:37:13,255 --> 00:37:16,339
[Margot] You know,
it wasn't just the music,

751
00:37:16,422 --> 00:37:20,506
it was the sense of being
packaged into a product.

752
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:26,589
It was just becoming less
about art and more about money.

753
00:37:27,798 --> 00:37:30,547
[Gina] I just felt like, what
the fuck are you doing it for,

754
00:37:30,631 --> 00:37:33,506
to stay with a following
of a couple of thousand people?

755
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:35,881
Or do you want to have people
all over this country

756
00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:38,089
know your music
and know your songwriting,

757
00:37:38,172 --> 00:37:40,714
know, you know, what kind of
musician you are?

758
00:37:42,839 --> 00:37:47,214
[Jane] We had shows over
New Year's Eve at The Whisky,

759
00:37:47,297 --> 00:37:49,547
and Margot had
gotten really, really sick.

760
00:37:49,631 --> 00:37:52,381
So, we had to scramble around
and find someone.

761
00:37:54,964 --> 00:37:59,381
[Charlotte] Kathy, I met
at the Whisky a Go Go.

762
00:37:59,464 --> 00:38:01,464
[Kathy]
I was approached by Charlotte

763
00:38:01,547 --> 00:38:04,547
and asked if I could play bass,
and I said yes.

764
00:38:04,631 --> 00:38:05,756
It was a big lie.

765
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:09,964
I figured, I've been playing
guitar five or six years,

766
00:38:10,047 --> 00:38:12,339
why can't I play a bass?

767
00:38:12,422 --> 00:38:14,005
So, I go home.

768
00:38:14,089 --> 00:38:17,714
First thing in the morning,
I borrow a bass from somebody.

769
00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:19,005
Charlotte came over.

770
00:38:19,089 --> 00:38:20,964
She brought me a little
cassette.

771
00:38:21,047 --> 00:38:23,381
She left.

772
00:38:23,464 --> 00:38:26,047
I plugged my bass
into my guitar amp.

773
00:38:27,756 --> 00:38:29,589
Feels weird, I use my pick.

774
00:38:29,673 --> 00:38:33,756
[Go-go's playing fast song]

775
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:36,923
I start listening, I can't
hear, it's a rehearsal tape.

776
00:38:37,005 --> 00:38:38,464
It sounds, you know... zzzt!

777
00:38:38,547 --> 00:38:40,923
[music playing, quickly]

778
00:38:41,005 --> 00:38:42,255
You know, I'm like, "Shit."

779
00:38:42,339 --> 00:38:44,089
[rewinding tape]

780
00:38:44,172 --> 00:38:45,714
[music playing]

781
00:38:45,798 --> 00:38:48,589
First thing I have to do is
learn on guitar the chords,

782
00:38:48,673 --> 00:38:50,923
because I can't hear.

783
00:38:51,005 --> 00:38:53,089
[bass playing]

784
00:38:53,172 --> 00:38:56,255
Then, I started picking up
some of the bass parts.

785
00:38:56,339 --> 00:38:58,297
What I could make out
I learned,

786
00:38:58,381 --> 00:39:02,047
what I couldn't make out
I just made up my own.

787
00:39:02,130 --> 00:39:04,964
♪♪♪

788
00:39:05,047 --> 00:39:06,589
[rewinding tape]

789
00:39:06,673 --> 00:39:08,756
I played it over and over.

790
00:39:08,839 --> 00:39:10,381
[rewinding tape]

791
00:39:10,464 --> 00:39:12,089
I'm a perfectionist, you know.

792
00:39:12,172 --> 00:39:14,547
[rewinding tape]

793
00:39:14,631 --> 00:39:16,673
The only way to do it
as much as I was doing it

794
00:39:16,756 --> 00:39:20,297
was to get pharmaceutical help.

795
00:39:20,381 --> 00:39:23,547
[sniffing]

796
00:39:24,714 --> 00:39:27,798
I basically learned all
their songs on a coke binge.

797
00:39:29,381 --> 00:39:31,214
[sniffing, rewinding tape]

798
00:39:31,297 --> 00:39:34,130
[sniffing]

799
00:39:34,214 --> 00:39:37,339
[bass and guitar playing]

800
00:39:37,422 --> 00:39:39,464
Charlotte came over to see
how it was going.

801
00:39:39,547 --> 00:39:41,631
[laughing]
I went to her house.

802
00:39:41,714 --> 00:39:43,297
She was kind of like
in the middle

803
00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,673
of like a three-day bender
on coke,

804
00:39:45,756 --> 00:39:48,214
and I'd never met anyone
like that.

805
00:39:48,297 --> 00:39:49,964
And I thought, "Wow, my God."

806
00:39:50,047 --> 00:39:53,714
She was a badass musician.

807
00:39:53,798 --> 00:39:57,631
She learned those songs on bass
in, like, a couple days,

808
00:39:57,714 --> 00:39:59,047
and she had never played bass.

809
00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,255
[Kathy] By the time
I'd learned those songs,

810
00:40:01,339 --> 00:40:02,798
I just wanted to be in the band.

811
00:40:02,881 --> 00:40:04,673
[Belinda]
In case you haven't noticed,

812
00:40:04,756 --> 00:40:07,881
we have a bass player filling
in for Margot, she's sick,

813
00:40:07,964 --> 00:40:09,005
and her name's Kathy.

814
00:40:09,089 --> 00:40:11,130
[Charlotte]
Kathy Valentine, yeah.

815
00:40:11,214 --> 00:40:12,714
[crowd cheering]

816
00:40:12,798 --> 00:40:17,214
In came Kathy Valentine like
a knight in shining armor.

817
00:40:17,297 --> 00:40:19,631
♪

818
00:40:19,714 --> 00:40:23,381
[Kathy] I got to be there
with the sold-out shows.

819
00:40:23,464 --> 00:40:26,297
It was everything that I had
been looking for

820
00:40:26,381 --> 00:40:29,005
since I started playing.

821
00:40:30,214 --> 00:40:31,673
I'm an only child,

822
00:40:31,756 --> 00:40:35,255
and it was just me
and my mom when I was raised.

823
00:40:35,339 --> 00:40:39,964
I really liked the idea
of a band being a family.

824
00:40:41,214 --> 00:40:42,881
Right away, I just felt like

825
00:40:42,964 --> 00:40:44,798
these are going to be
my sisters.

826
00:40:44,881 --> 00:40:48,422
Something just felt right,
it just felt like, "We're here."

827
00:40:48,506 --> 00:40:51,255
♪ Last night you slept,
you slept in fits ♪

828
00:40:51,339 --> 00:40:53,339
♪ You smashed your windows
bit by bit ♪

829
00:40:53,422 --> 00:40:55,506
[Kathy] They wanted me
and I wanted them

830
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:58,339
and I guess it's a lot
like cheaters,

831
00:40:58,422 --> 00:41:01,130
you know, people having affairs.

832
00:41:02,756 --> 00:41:05,547
[Belinda] I remember Margot
being true to herself

833
00:41:05,631 --> 00:41:07,297
and very authentic.

834
00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:10,589
She wanted to remain a punk band
but we didn't,

835
00:41:10,673 --> 00:41:15,547
so we just decided it was best
to carry on without her.

836
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:20,756
I was told I had to do
the firing because,

837
00:41:20,839 --> 00:41:23,714
"You're the manager, Ginger,
you've got to do it."

838
00:41:23,798 --> 00:41:27,214
Because none of them had the...
the guts to do it.

839
00:41:27,297 --> 00:41:30,005
[phone ringing]

840
00:41:30,089 --> 00:41:34,047
[Margot] It was a shock to get
a phone call from Ginger.

841
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:35,631
"You're out of the band.

842
00:41:35,714 --> 00:41:38,130
The girls didn't want
to tell you."

843
00:41:38,214 --> 00:41:42,172
It was a decision that they had
made and that was it.

844
00:41:44,005 --> 00:41:47,089
It was something I'd worked
so hard for

845
00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:50,255
and with friends.

846
00:41:50,339 --> 00:41:53,923
People ask me, "How do you deal
with such betrayal?"

847
00:41:54,005 --> 00:41:56,172
[Belinda]
In our little scene in L.A.,

848
00:41:56,255 --> 00:41:59,255
there was lots of gossip and
lots of people talking about us,

849
00:41:59,339 --> 00:42:00,881
and not in a good way.

850
00:42:00,964 --> 00:42:03,964
We had fired Margot,
we had sold out,

851
00:42:04,047 --> 00:42:07,756
we weren't a punk band,
we were ambitious.

852
00:42:09,631 --> 00:42:12,589
[Pleasant] In the community,
it became like a divorce

853
00:42:12,673 --> 00:42:15,673
because it was like they were
on a rocket to fame

854
00:42:15,756 --> 00:42:17,631
and they decided to fuck
Margot over.

855
00:42:17,714 --> 00:42:21,339
[Margot] I knew I would miss
the scene and the community,

856
00:42:21,422 --> 00:42:23,547
but I didn't want to be
hanging out

857
00:42:23,631 --> 00:42:27,130
where I would risk running
into them.

858
00:42:27,214 --> 00:42:29,214
I didn't want to see them
at all.

859
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,089
♪ Pay no mind
to what they say ♪

860
00:42:34,464 --> 00:42:37,547
♪ It doesn't matter anyway,
hey hey hey ♪

861
00:42:37,631 --> 00:42:40,631
[Kathy] I didn't think about how
that must have felt for her.

862
00:42:40,714 --> 00:42:41,964
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪

863
00:42:42,047 --> 00:42:44,464
There were shows booked
for three weeks later

864
00:42:44,547 --> 00:42:46,047
and I just wanted to make sure

865
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:47,756
I was the one doing them,
you know.

866
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:51,005
♪ Pay no mind
to what they say ♪

867
00:42:51,089 --> 00:42:53,506
[Ginger]
Kathy Valentine fit right in

868
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:55,464
and was the needed change

869
00:42:55,547 --> 00:42:57,673
to propel the band
to their next step.

870
00:42:57,756 --> 00:43:02,673
♪ Our lips are sealed,
our lips are sealed ♪

871
00:43:04,798 --> 00:43:09,589
You have no idea how barren
the landscape was in '81.

872
00:43:09,673 --> 00:43:13,339
The idea that women,
a host of different women,

873
00:43:13,422 --> 00:43:16,339
would tell their stories
in these kinds of songs

874
00:43:16,422 --> 00:43:17,881
and do it the punk way.

875
00:43:19,297 --> 00:43:22,297
Finding their own way
in a very difficult environment,

876
00:43:22,381 --> 00:43:23,923
that was unheard of.

877
00:43:24,005 --> 00:43:28,964
♪♪♪

878
00:43:30,756 --> 00:43:33,130
There was a whole new generation
of music coming up

879
00:43:33,214 --> 00:43:36,005
and the establishment record
business

880
00:43:36,089 --> 00:43:38,047
really sort of dismissed them,

881
00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:42,339
and I saw them
as a generational change.

882
00:43:42,422 --> 00:43:44,714
[Jane] Miles Copeland,
who managed The Police,

883
00:43:44,798 --> 00:43:47,547
decided to start his
own boutique label.

884
00:43:47,631 --> 00:43:49,881
He called it IRS Records.

885
00:43:49,964 --> 00:43:51,881
[Miles] Part of what
I wanted to do

886
00:43:51,964 --> 00:43:55,172
was to find some local
American bands.

887
00:43:56,255 --> 00:43:58,297
And I'd heard about The Go-Go's.

888
00:43:58,381 --> 00:44:01,923
All girls, punks from L.A.?

889
00:44:02,005 --> 00:44:04,547
Even if they were crap
you'd almost want to sign them,

890
00:44:04,631 --> 00:44:05,756
you know what I mean?

891
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:09,255
But they were good
and they had good songs.

892
00:44:09,339 --> 00:44:12,631
[Kathy] We signed on April 1st
to IRS Records

893
00:44:12,714 --> 00:44:16,214
and the next day
we flew to New York.

894
00:44:16,297 --> 00:44:19,089
♪ ...if you could
and be one of us ♪

895
00:44:19,172 --> 00:44:21,297
We played a couple more gigs.

896
00:44:21,381 --> 00:44:25,923
♪♪♪

897
00:44:26,005 --> 00:44:28,422
You know, I was 22 years old

898
00:44:28,506 --> 00:44:30,506
in New York City making
a record.

899
00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:33,297
♪ Change the lines
that were said before ♪

900
00:44:33,381 --> 00:44:34,756
♪ We're all dreamers ♪

901
00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:37,631
[Richard Gottehrer]
With The Go-Go's as a punk band,

902
00:44:37,714 --> 00:44:38,881
they didn't have the experience

903
00:44:38,964 --> 00:44:43,839
to know they could do more than
just execute the moment.

904
00:44:43,923 --> 00:44:47,339
That's what I would try
to instill in them,

905
00:44:47,422 --> 00:44:50,464
to say there are grooves,
there are feelings.

906
00:44:50,547 --> 00:44:55,005
If your songs are really good,
you don't run through them.

907
00:44:55,089 --> 00:44:58,005
♪ Change the lines
that were said before ♪

908
00:44:58,089 --> 00:45:00,881
♪ We're all dreamers,
we're all whores ♪

909
00:45:00,964 --> 00:45:04,547
♪ Discarded stars
like worn-out cars ♪

910
00:45:04,631 --> 00:45:07,339
[Gina] When Richard Gottehrer
got a hold of us,

911
00:45:07,422 --> 00:45:08,923
he said, "Slow everything down."

912
00:45:09,005 --> 00:45:11,798
♪ This town,
litter the streets ♪

913
00:45:11,881 --> 00:45:14,631
So, you could actually
understand the words

914
00:45:14,714 --> 00:45:17,464
and the melodies were more
flowing.

915
00:45:17,547 --> 00:45:20,047
♪ This town is our town ♪

916
00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:22,839
♪ It is so glamorous ♪

917
00:45:22,923 --> 00:45:25,506
That's when I realized,
these are all pop songs.

918
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:28,297
♪ And be one of us ♪

919
00:45:30,881 --> 00:45:32,673
[Belinda]
I think actually it was my idea

920
00:45:32,756 --> 00:45:34,964
for the face masks
and towels,

921
00:45:35,047 --> 00:45:37,547
to sort of be timeless
and incognito.

922
00:45:37,631 --> 00:45:39,964
[Ginger]
I thought fabulous graphically,

923
00:45:40,047 --> 00:45:42,923
I thought, "Oh, that could be
really brilliant."

924
00:45:43,964 --> 00:45:45,673
[Gina]
Once again we had no money,

925
00:45:45,756 --> 00:45:49,506
so Ginger went to Macy's
and bought all those towels.

926
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:53,047
She returned those towels
to Macy's afterwards. [laughs]

927
00:45:53,130 --> 00:45:54,506
I couldn't invest in all these

928
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:56,756
brand-new fluffy, white,
expensive towels.

929
00:45:56,839 --> 00:45:58,464
We couldn't afford those.

930
00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:01,297
♪ It is so glamorous ♪

931
00:46:01,381 --> 00:46:04,964
We were like going through
adolescence again together.

932
00:46:08,130 --> 00:46:10,881
[Richard] Being the good
middle-class boy growing up,

933
00:46:10,964 --> 00:46:13,255
girls are one way,
guys are another way.

934
00:46:13,339 --> 00:46:15,464
Well, I learned it's not
like that.

935
00:46:15,547 --> 00:46:18,130
I learned that completely
from them.

936
00:46:20,172 --> 00:46:23,130
We'd get done with a session
and I'd hear something like,

937
00:46:23,214 --> 00:46:25,047
"Let's go get some booty
tonight."

938
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:26,714
And I'm thinking, "booty?"

939
00:46:28,589 --> 00:46:30,547
We had a lot of fun,
did a lot of drugs,

940
00:46:30,631 --> 00:46:33,047
drank a lot,
just like a band does.

941
00:46:34,089 --> 00:46:36,589
[Kathy]
Just a bunch of scruffy girls

942
00:46:36,673 --> 00:46:39,381
having the time of our life.

943
00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:41,172
♪ This town ♪

944
00:46:43,255 --> 00:46:48,089
But in the midst of all the
bonding and insanity and fun,

945
00:46:48,172 --> 00:46:52,881
I just felt so much distance
with Charlotte.

946
00:46:55,297 --> 00:46:58,881
[Belinda] Charlotte tended to
isolate herself quite a bit.

947
00:46:58,964 --> 00:47:00,089
So, we had really...

948
00:47:00,172 --> 00:47:02,130
she had this whole secret life
going on.

949
00:47:02,214 --> 00:47:04,005
We knew it probably wasn't good.

950
00:47:05,964 --> 00:47:08,130
Okay, let me talk about myself.

951
00:47:08,214 --> 00:47:10,923
I was full-blown heroin addict
at the time.

952
00:47:11,005 --> 00:47:13,923
So, I would be scoring dope,
which is so scary.

953
00:47:14,005 --> 00:47:16,339
Like, I'd go down
to Alphabet City. Yikes!

954
00:47:18,005 --> 00:47:20,923
[Margot] When I moved to
New York, I became a squatter

955
00:47:21,005 --> 00:47:23,214
living in what is now
the East Village,

956
00:47:23,297 --> 00:47:27,964
and I saw Charlotte walking east
to Alphabet City.

957
00:47:29,464 --> 00:47:32,923
The Alphabets is where everyone
would go to cop drugs,

958
00:47:33,005 --> 00:47:35,214
so I knew where she was going.

959
00:47:41,089 --> 00:47:43,297
[Charlotte]
After I graduated from college,

960
00:47:43,381 --> 00:47:45,130
I tried heroin
for the first time.

961
00:47:45,214 --> 00:47:47,923
"Oh, let me try this.
I'll be fine!"

962
00:47:48,005 --> 00:47:49,005
It was like, you know,

963
00:47:49,089 --> 00:47:52,714
a little matchstick head size
that I snorted.

964
00:47:53,798 --> 00:47:55,339
It made me feel like really
great,

965
00:47:55,422 --> 00:47:58,130
and I was like,
"Wow, I like this feeling!"

966
00:47:58,214 --> 00:48:00,297
But I didn't understand
at that time,

967
00:48:00,381 --> 00:48:02,422
like, it was deadly shit.

968
00:48:02,506 --> 00:48:05,172
Then, I became addicted.

969
00:48:05,255 --> 00:48:08,964
♪ Automatic, time stop ♪

970
00:48:09,047 --> 00:48:11,297
[Jane] She and I were like
sharing a room together

971
00:48:11,381 --> 00:48:15,172
and she was actively having
a heroin addiction,

972
00:48:15,255 --> 00:48:18,714
which I never saw her take
heroin, I never saw heroin.

973
00:48:18,798 --> 00:48:21,297
I mean, how did she do that?
She was very secretive.

974
00:48:21,381 --> 00:48:24,422
She'd come to rehearsal, I'd
say, "Look at her fucking eyes!

975
00:48:24,506 --> 00:48:26,339
Her eyes are pinned,
look at her eyes!"

976
00:48:26,422 --> 00:48:28,631
[Kathy] I went and I knocked
on her door.

977
00:48:28,714 --> 00:48:31,214
She answered
and she had on her Ray-Bans.

978
00:48:31,297 --> 00:48:33,673
And I said, "They told me
that you do heroin."

979
00:48:33,756 --> 00:48:36,172
And she just looked at me,
she said, "No, no, no."

980
00:48:36,255 --> 00:48:38,130
And I was like,
"Oh, okay, good."

981
00:48:38,214 --> 00:48:40,339
[Gina]
She was way more out of control

982
00:48:40,422 --> 00:48:44,089
than I think any of us
really knew about.

983
00:48:46,172 --> 00:48:47,214
[man]
You alright?

984
00:48:47,297 --> 00:48:49,714
Yeah, I'm trying to figure
something out here.

985
00:48:49,798 --> 00:48:50,798
[man]
Okay, go ahead.

986
00:48:50,881 --> 00:48:52,881
Just put yours first,
just keep it the same.

987
00:48:52,964 --> 00:48:55,673
Are we both saying it?
"Hi, we're Kathy and Charlotte."

988
00:48:55,756 --> 00:48:57,547
Yeah, let's just do it.

989
00:48:57,631 --> 00:48:59,756
[man] Okay,
we'll give it a try.

990
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:02,756
Here we go.
In three, two...

991
00:49:02,839 --> 00:49:06,089
[both] Hi, we're Kathy and
Charlotte of The Go-Go's

992
00:49:06,172 --> 00:49:09,589
and you can watch MTV
24 hours a day

993
00:49:09,673 --> 00:49:12,297
on cable vision in stereo.

994
00:49:12,381 --> 00:49:17,297
♪♪♪

995
00:49:18,756 --> 00:49:20,798
♪ Can you hear them? ♪

996
00:49:20,881 --> 00:49:22,798
♪ They talk about us... ♪

997
00:49:22,881 --> 00:49:25,089
The Go-Go's and MTV came up

998
00:49:25,172 --> 00:49:28,130
at the perfect time
for each other,

999
00:49:28,214 --> 00:49:30,673
because MTV was all about,

1000
00:49:30,756 --> 00:49:33,923
"This is what the artists
that you love look like."

1001
00:49:34,005 --> 00:49:38,381
They came along looking adorable
and effervescent and fun.

1002
00:49:38,464 --> 00:49:40,923
It just was a match made
in heaven.

1003
00:49:41,005 --> 00:49:43,172
♪ Hey hey hey ♪

1004
00:49:44,172 --> 00:49:47,214
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪

1005
00:49:47,297 --> 00:49:50,214
[Jane] Well, it was a cheap
music video, actually.

1006
00:49:50,297 --> 00:49:53,756
"Our Lips Are Sealed"
was done on a $6000 budget,

1007
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:57,631
and that money came
from a Police video

1008
00:49:57,714 --> 00:50:00,005
that they didn't spend
all their money on,

1009
00:50:00,089 --> 00:50:04,005
so Miles took the money
and let us spend it.

1010
00:50:04,089 --> 00:50:05,547
♪ Doesn't matter
what they say ♪

1011
00:50:05,631 --> 00:50:08,589
[Belinda] We had no idea how
important video was going to be,

1012
00:50:08,673 --> 00:50:10,964
so we thought,
"This is a big waste of time.

1013
00:50:11,047 --> 00:50:12,839
Why are we doing this?"

1014
00:50:12,923 --> 00:50:14,089
None of us took it seriously.

1015
00:50:14,172 --> 00:50:17,130
We wanted to get arrested
and have that on tape.

1016
00:50:18,172 --> 00:50:20,506
[Jane] We decided if we jumped
in the fountain,

1017
00:50:20,589 --> 00:50:22,839
the Beverly Hills cops
would come and arrest us

1018
00:50:22,923 --> 00:50:25,172
and it would be a really great
way to end the video.

1019
00:50:25,255 --> 00:50:27,839
So, we're sitting there
frolicking in the water,

1020
00:50:27,923 --> 00:50:29,714
frolicking, frolicking,
frolicking.

1021
00:50:29,798 --> 00:50:32,172
[Gina] We jumped around
in that goddamn fountain

1022
00:50:32,255 --> 00:50:35,089
for quite a while and nobody
even paid any attention to us.

1023
00:50:35,172 --> 00:50:37,798
No one would arrest us.

1024
00:50:37,881 --> 00:50:41,297
[Jane] Next thing you know, MTV
is the biggest thing in America

1025
00:50:41,381 --> 00:50:43,839
and they're showing The Go-Go's
every half hour.

1026
00:50:43,923 --> 00:50:47,381
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪

1027
00:50:47,464 --> 00:50:51,047
[Copeland] I was saying to
Ginger, "Your band is happening.

1028
00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:53,381
If we put you on
opening for The Police,

1029
00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:58,214
it's going to really open so
many more eyes and more ears

1030
00:50:58,297 --> 00:51:01,172
that it might really help make
the difference."

1031
00:51:01,255 --> 00:51:05,047
[Ginger] Miles Copeland,
with his vision saying,

1032
00:51:05,130 --> 00:51:08,172
"Would you like The Go-Go's to
open for The Police?" Why, yes!

1033
00:51:08,255 --> 00:51:12,255
It was a coup for us because
they were huge at the time.

1034
00:51:12,339 --> 00:51:14,756
We traveled around the world
opening for them.

1035
00:51:14,839 --> 00:51:20,005
♪♪♪

1036
00:51:21,255 --> 00:51:24,172
They were the best
opening act ever.

1037
00:51:24,255 --> 00:51:27,005
The Go-Go's came out, they were
so enthusiastic, so up,

1038
00:51:27,089 --> 00:51:28,547
their songs were so bright

1039
00:51:28,631 --> 00:51:30,756
that they just would light up
the room.

1040
00:51:31,964 --> 00:51:34,172
♪ Walking by ♪

1041
00:51:34,255 --> 00:51:39,005
♪ You hold your head
so close to hers ♪

1042
00:51:39,089 --> 00:51:44,005
♪ I could cry, I could cry ♪

1043
00:51:44,089 --> 00:51:45,964
♪ I want to be... ♪

1044
00:51:46,047 --> 00:51:48,339
[Gina]
When we toured with The Police,

1045
00:51:48,422 --> 00:51:51,589
it took us from playing clubs
to arenas.

1046
00:51:51,673 --> 00:51:54,964
When I walked out on stage,
I almost died.

1047
00:51:55,047 --> 00:51:57,464
♪♪♪

1048
00:51:57,547 --> 00:51:59,798
♪ How much more can I take ♪

1049
00:51:59,881 --> 00:52:02,339
[Stewart] They had the most
important ingredient

1050
00:52:02,422 --> 00:52:04,297
of musicianship, which is feel.

1051
00:52:04,381 --> 00:52:07,881
They established a groove
that worked,

1052
00:52:07,964 --> 00:52:09,506
that you could lock into.

1053
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:12,714
They just created something
that exploded on the stage.

1054
00:52:12,798 --> 00:52:15,881
♪ Yeah,
crazy oh yeah ♪

1055
00:52:15,964 --> 00:52:17,339
Yeah!

1056
00:52:17,422 --> 00:52:21,339
[crowd cheering]

1057
00:52:23,506 --> 00:52:25,839
[Jane] During that Police tour,

1058
00:52:25,923 --> 00:52:28,339
our album kept going up and up
and up in the chart.

1059
00:52:28,422 --> 00:52:31,506
Their album was like a sky
rocket,

1060
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:33,839
and that made it really fun
for us.

1061
00:52:33,923 --> 00:52:37,798
It was like a vicarious thrill
because we were old and jaded,

1062
00:52:37,881 --> 00:52:40,756
to see these women, a new band,

1063
00:52:40,839 --> 00:52:43,756
experiencing the thrill
for the first time,

1064
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:45,589
that lit us up.

1065
00:52:45,673 --> 00:52:49,005
[Kathy] We were in Atlanta and
Sting came in the dressing room

1066
00:52:49,089 --> 00:52:52,589
and he's got champagne.
"Congratulations, girls."

1067
00:52:52,673 --> 00:52:54,214
We're looking at him,
like, what?

1068
00:52:54,297 --> 00:52:58,339
He said,
"Your record has passed ours."

1069
00:52:58,422 --> 00:53:01,464
They were number six
and then we went to number one.

1070
00:53:04,255 --> 00:53:06,214
[Jane]
They brought us champagne.

1071
00:53:06,297 --> 00:53:09,130
It was actually very gentlemanly
of them to do that

1072
00:53:09,214 --> 00:53:11,631
and not kick us off the tour!
[laughing]

1073
00:53:11,714 --> 00:53:14,464
[Ginger] Beauty And The Beat's
gone to number one

1074
00:53:14,547 --> 00:53:18,297
and I think we were all kind
of over the moon.

1075
00:53:19,506 --> 00:53:22,506
[Kathy]
This is it, this is everything.

1076
00:53:22,589 --> 00:53:26,631
Every step along the way,
it just kept getting better.

1077
00:53:26,714 --> 00:53:31,047
I wish there was another phrase
other than "dream come true,"

1078
00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:32,839
because it was so beyond that.

1079
00:53:32,923 --> 00:53:35,464
It was like fulfilled
everything.

1080
00:53:35,547 --> 00:53:37,297
This is a circus.

1081
00:53:37,381 --> 00:53:39,381
[laughing]

1082
00:53:40,464 --> 00:53:43,130
[Miles] When you have something
that bucks the system

1083
00:53:43,214 --> 00:53:45,422
and succeeds,
it opens people's eyes.

1084
00:53:45,506 --> 00:53:48,255
They did something that no group
has ever done before them,

1085
00:53:48,339 --> 00:53:51,172
and that is have a number-one
album in the United States,

1086
00:53:51,255 --> 00:53:53,005
being all girls.

1087
00:53:53,089 --> 00:53:56,506
They opened people's eyes
to potential for women

1088
00:53:56,589 --> 00:53:59,923
to do something that had never
really been done before.

1089
00:54:01,339 --> 00:54:04,506
For The Go-Go's to have a debut
album go to number one,

1090
00:54:04,589 --> 00:54:07,839
that's something that only like
26 other artists have done,

1091
00:54:07,923 --> 00:54:12,047
like you know, the biggies,
Elvis, The Beatles.

1092
00:54:12,130 --> 00:54:14,047
[Chris Connelly]
They made history.

1093
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:15,881
They're the first
all-female band

1094
00:54:15,964 --> 00:54:17,339
to play their own instruments,

1095
00:54:17,422 --> 00:54:21,756
write their own songs,
number-one record for six weeks.

1096
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,005
Mic drop.

1097
00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:25,923
[crowd cheering]

1098
00:54:27,005 --> 00:54:30,464
[Hanna] When I went to
The Go-Go's concert in 1982,

1099
00:54:30,547 --> 00:54:33,214
as a young girl going
into a space

1100
00:54:33,297 --> 00:54:36,964
where women own the stage,

1101
00:54:37,047 --> 00:54:40,255
and own it unapologetically

1102
00:54:40,339 --> 00:54:42,756
like they were born to be there,

1103
00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:46,756
to me it represented a moment
of possibility.

1104
00:54:46,839 --> 00:54:48,172
Thanks, good night!

1105
00:54:48,255 --> 00:54:53,005
[crowd cheering and applauding]

1106
00:54:53,089 --> 00:54:54,506
Thanks a lot!

1107
00:54:54,589 --> 00:54:57,255
These-- we're having a high
school reunion, you see.

1108
00:54:57,339 --> 00:54:59,422
I went to high school
with all these people.

1109
00:54:59,506 --> 00:55:00,756
Girls run up to us and say,

1110
00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:02,422
"We started a band
because of you!"

1111
00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,798
That's probably the best feeling
in the world,

1112
00:55:04,881 --> 00:55:07,464
it's really great
to think that you inspire people

1113
00:55:07,547 --> 00:55:08,673
to go out and start a band.

1114
00:55:08,756 --> 00:55:11,589
So, this is the dawning
of a new era, this is it.

1115
00:55:14,714 --> 00:55:17,089
Everybody has a different
perspective I'm sure

1116
00:55:17,172 --> 00:55:19,255
on what happened at
Saturday Night Live.

1117
00:55:19,339 --> 00:55:20,506
Oh, God.

1118
00:55:21,881 --> 00:55:24,297
[Kathy] We got there
11 in the morning,

1119
00:55:24,381 --> 00:55:27,130
and we had to wait
until 11 at night basically.

1120
00:55:27,214 --> 00:55:30,381
I think it was just a case of us

1121
00:55:30,464 --> 00:55:34,464
sitting around a TV studio
way too long,

1122
00:55:34,547 --> 00:55:36,881
and then, just starting to dip
into the booze.

1123
00:55:36,964 --> 00:55:39,881
[Kathy]
Let's have a toast, champagne.

1124
00:55:39,964 --> 00:55:44,297
And then, oh, it's lunch time,
we'll have some wine.

1125
00:55:44,381 --> 00:55:46,172
So then, you want to balance
it out,

1126
00:55:46,255 --> 00:55:48,172
you want to lift things up
a little,

1127
00:55:48,255 --> 00:55:50,297
so magically the blow appears.

1128
00:55:50,381 --> 00:55:52,005
[Charlotte]
Right before we went on,

1129
00:55:52,089 --> 00:55:53,631
they said, "Remember, girls,

1130
00:55:53,714 --> 00:55:56,089
you're playing in front of 50
million people live."

1131
00:55:56,172 --> 00:55:58,130
And we were just like ...

1132
00:55:58,214 --> 00:56:00,130
♪ Yeah, we got it ♪

1133
00:56:00,214 --> 00:56:02,255
[Gina]
We were like cross-eyed drunk.

1134
00:56:02,339 --> 00:56:03,547
[laughing]

1135
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:10,047
The funny thing is, the next day
we sold a ton of records.

1136
00:56:11,005 --> 00:56:13,422
[Kathy]
Even buzzing, messed-up Go-Go's

1137
00:56:13,506 --> 00:56:15,631
being beamed into people's
living rooms,

1138
00:56:15,714 --> 00:56:18,047
it' still something that people
are just going,

1139
00:56:18,130 --> 00:56:19,089
"Whoa, we like this."

1140
00:56:19,172 --> 00:56:22,130
[audience cheering]

1141
00:56:22,214 --> 00:56:25,130
Now that we've had a little bit
of success and stuff

1142
00:56:25,214 --> 00:56:28,673
and now we know how wonderful
it can be, we want more.

1143
00:56:30,422 --> 00:56:32,089
[Jane]
The Rolling Stone  cover

1144
00:56:32,172 --> 00:56:34,506
was supposed to be a comment
on sexism,

1145
00:56:34,589 --> 00:56:35,964
and obviously it backfired,

1146
00:56:36,047 --> 00:56:39,005
because if we had really been
trying to be sexy

1147
00:56:39,089 --> 00:56:40,839
and push our wares as women,

1148
00:56:40,923 --> 00:56:42,923
you know, we would have worn
sexy underwear

1149
00:56:43,005 --> 00:56:45,422
instead of, you know, Hanes
and Fruit of the Loom.

1150
00:56:45,506 --> 00:56:47,756
It's so tame,
but when it came out

1151
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:51,172
it did not help that Rolling
Stone  chose the headline:

1152
00:56:51,255 --> 00:56:53,422
"The Go-Go's Put Out."

1153
00:56:53,506 --> 00:56:56,130
[Ginger] "Ginger, you've gotta
call Rolling Stone.

1154
00:56:56,214 --> 00:56:57,339
We're not happy.

1155
00:56:57,422 --> 00:56:59,839
We don't like that they used
these pictures

1156
00:56:59,923 --> 00:57:02,089
on the front of the magazine."

1157
00:57:02,172 --> 00:57:03,506
So, I phoned
Rolling Stone

1158
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:05,255
and asked for Jann
the publisher.

1159
00:57:05,339 --> 00:57:08,589
I said, "Jann, some of the girls
are very upset about the image

1160
00:57:08,673 --> 00:57:10,547
used on the front
of the magazine."

1161
00:57:10,631 --> 00:57:13,839
And there was a brief pause
and Jann said,

1162
00:57:13,923 --> 00:57:16,798
"I thought you were calling me
to thank me for the cover.

1163
00:57:16,881 --> 00:57:19,005
You girls need to grow up."
Clunk!

1164
00:57:19,089 --> 00:57:22,047
Maybe that's why we're not in
the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame,

1165
00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:24,464
those ungrateful wenches.

1166
00:57:26,798 --> 00:57:29,631
Our success was so quick,

1167
00:57:29,714 --> 00:57:32,381
and I always felt like a little
bit of an impostor

1168
00:57:32,464 --> 00:57:34,673
when it came to success,
like it was undeserved.

1169
00:57:34,756 --> 00:57:37,089
[host] We asked them
why they are succeeding

1170
00:57:37,172 --> 00:57:38,756
where other girl groups
have failed.

1171
00:57:38,839 --> 00:57:41,673
The majority of the reason must
be because of the songs,

1172
00:57:41,756 --> 00:57:44,464
if people don't like your songs
they're not gonna wanna

1173
00:57:44,547 --> 00:57:46,297
come see you live,
or buy your records.

1174
00:57:46,381 --> 00:57:48,756
[Gina] Whether you're a girl or
whatever you are.

1175
00:57:48,839 --> 00:57:52,255
I think that timing and luck,
there is an element of that.

1176
00:57:52,339 --> 00:57:55,923
I think luckily for us
there are now five....

1177
00:57:56,005 --> 00:58:01,756
women all in one band
who all have fear of failure.

1178
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,005
Really.

1179
00:58:04,089 --> 00:58:06,464
[Belinda] I think everybody,
not just the band,

1180
00:58:06,547 --> 00:58:07,756
probably the record company,

1181
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,255
was scrambling around to figure
out what to do next

1182
00:58:10,339 --> 00:58:11,756
on the back of such a big
success.

1183
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,881
Putting out a second album made
sense to the record industry

1184
00:58:14,964 --> 00:58:18,255
because they want to make more
records and make more money.

1185
00:58:18,339 --> 00:58:22,255
And they're going to milk it
for everything that they can,

1186
00:58:22,339 --> 00:58:24,047
but at a price.

1187
00:58:24,130 --> 00:58:26,339
[host] Do you have any time to
write songs now

1188
00:58:26,422 --> 00:58:28,339
with all the traveling
you're doing?

1189
00:58:28,422 --> 00:58:30,839
[Charlotte] We've come,
right now we're starting,

1190
00:58:30,923 --> 00:58:33,506
this next month we're going
to work on new stuff.

1191
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:35,756
[host] What are you gonna
write about?

1192
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:37,756
[Charlotte]
Well, I can't really say

1193
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:40,798
what we're going to write
about, I don't know.

1194
00:58:40,881 --> 00:58:42,964
Vacation  as a record,

1195
00:58:43,047 --> 00:58:47,881
we were so rushed that
the songwriting reflects that.

1196
00:58:48,881 --> 00:58:51,422
But I felt like, "Oh, my God,
I wrote a hit song

1197
00:58:51,506 --> 00:58:53,130
and now what do I do,"
you know?

1198
00:58:53,214 --> 00:58:56,130
It's like,
it messes with your head.

1199
00:58:56,214 --> 00:58:59,714
And, you know, you always hear
about the sophomore jinx.

1200
00:59:03,547 --> 00:59:06,798
I was freaking out because
we were scrambling for material

1201
00:59:06,881 --> 00:59:08,673
and then, luckily we got
"Vacation."

1202
00:59:08,756 --> 00:59:12,214
Kathy wrote "Vacation" and was
playing it in her previous band

1203
00:59:12,297 --> 00:59:14,631
to The Go-Go's, The Textones.

1204
00:59:17,047 --> 00:59:21,047
♪ I've thought a lot of things
about you ♪

1205
00:59:22,130 --> 00:59:26,339
♪ I've stayed awake just
thinking 'bout you ♪

1206
00:59:26,422 --> 00:59:27,964
[Kathy]
I showed it to Charlotte,

1207
00:59:28,047 --> 00:59:29,756
she said,
"I really like this song,

1208
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:31,881
I think, you know,
it needs more of a chorus."

1209
00:59:31,964 --> 00:59:36,964
♪ Tomorrow's a day of mine
that you won't be in ♪

1210
00:59:37,047 --> 00:59:40,547
I really felt like the original
version kind of went down,

1211
00:59:40,631 --> 00:59:42,506
and this, it just should have
gone up.

1212
00:59:42,589 --> 00:59:45,339
♪ Vacation, all I ever wanted ♪

1213
00:59:45,422 --> 00:59:48,255
♪ A vacation,
had to get away ♪

1214
00:59:48,339 --> 00:59:50,881
If we hadn't had that song
on the record,

1215
00:59:50,964 --> 00:59:53,839
it would have been a very
different outcome for us.

1216
00:59:53,923 --> 00:59:56,673
That probably would've ended
everything right there,

1217
00:59:56,756 --> 00:59:58,381
'cause that song
was really cool.

1218
00:59:58,464 --> 00:59:59,923
♪ Had to get away ♪

1219
01:00:00,005 --> 01:00:02,839
♪ Vacation,
meant to be spent alone ♪

1220
01:00:02,923 --> 01:00:05,923
Who knew that the girls were
such able water skiers?

1221
01:00:06,005 --> 01:00:10,589
At the video shoot,
they started wandering off

1222
01:00:10,673 --> 01:00:13,089
wearing their little
water ski tutus

1223
01:00:13,172 --> 01:00:15,589
and started walking up
La Brea Avenue.

1224
01:00:15,673 --> 01:00:18,756
I followed them
and started snapping away.

1225
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:21,756
They just looked like
four ballerinas

1226
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:24,631
between takes on a movie set
or something.

1227
01:00:27,547 --> 01:00:30,839
"Vacation" soon hit
the radio waves

1228
01:00:30,923 --> 01:00:34,839
and did really, really well
and got lots of play.

1229
01:00:34,964 --> 01:00:38,130
But it stalled in the charts.

1230
01:00:38,214 --> 01:00:42,047
[interviewer]
Are you still getting along?

1231
01:00:42,130 --> 01:00:46,214
Yeah, we're getting along really
good, as a matter of fact.

1232
01:00:46,297 --> 01:00:48,297
I mean, but this is
the beginning of tour,

1233
01:00:48,381 --> 01:00:50,172
so we'll see how it is
the last week.

1234
01:00:50,255 --> 01:00:51,297
No, we'll get along,

1235
01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:54,089
we always have got along pretty
good I'd say.

1236
01:00:54,172 --> 01:00:55,506
[crowd cheering]

1237
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:56,547
Show time!

1238
01:00:56,631 --> 01:01:00,089
♪ It's everything
but party time ♪

1239
01:01:00,172 --> 01:01:04,255
♪ It's everything but
party time... ♪

1240
01:01:04,339 --> 01:01:06,798
[Gina] I mean, this was like
a fucking treadmill.

1241
01:01:06,881 --> 01:01:10,422
They were pushing us constantly.
We were on tour constantly.

1242
01:01:12,381 --> 01:01:14,547
[Ginger] You would be
absolutely exhausted

1243
01:01:14,631 --> 01:01:18,464
and arrive from some long
transatlantic flight,

1244
01:01:18,547 --> 01:01:21,381
and the promoter
for an upcoming show

1245
01:01:21,464 --> 01:01:23,631
was reaching out to you
in panic saying,

1246
01:01:23,714 --> 01:01:25,964
"We need the girls to do this,
this, this and this."

1247
01:01:26,047 --> 01:01:28,631
[interviewer] This has been
an incredible year.

1248
01:01:28,714 --> 01:01:30,547
The success,
how's it affected your life

1249
01:01:30,631 --> 01:01:32,130
at this stage of the ball game?

1250
01:01:32,214 --> 01:01:34,756
[Charlotte] We're aware of
how well we're doing

1251
01:01:34,839 --> 01:01:36,714
but we don't feel it, yeah,
not yet.

1252
01:01:36,798 --> 01:01:39,881
[Kathy] Just too much overload
on the brain right now.

1253
01:01:41,381 --> 01:01:43,464
[Belinda] My life has been
planned out for me

1254
01:01:43,547 --> 01:01:45,339
for the next two years.

1255
01:01:45,422 --> 01:01:46,714
I can tell you my schedule

1256
01:01:46,798 --> 01:01:49,422
until September of next year
practically.

1257
01:01:51,923 --> 01:01:54,506
[Miles] When you go
from nowhere to number one,

1258
01:01:54,589 --> 01:01:57,714
things change, it's inevitable.

1259
01:01:59,422 --> 01:02:02,047
The old joke is, you know,
when you're a new manager

1260
01:02:02,130 --> 01:02:03,631
and you knew what you were doing

1261
01:02:03,714 --> 01:02:06,547
and you're signing a new band,
you're God.

1262
01:02:06,631 --> 01:02:09,130
The day they're number one,
you're the janitor.

1263
01:02:09,214 --> 01:02:12,047
♪ Can't seem to get my mind
off of you ♪

1264
01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:15,089
[director] What's the worst
thing about being a manager?

1265
01:02:17,297 --> 01:02:19,422
When they don't want you
anymore.

1266
01:02:21,923 --> 01:02:26,839
[Belinda] I think the band just
got too big for her to handle.

1267
01:02:26,923 --> 01:02:30,589
[Gina] We wanted to make
the most of the time

1268
01:02:30,673 --> 01:02:32,047
that we had in the spotlight.

1269
01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:35,631
We wanted to make money
and continue to be successful,

1270
01:02:35,714 --> 01:02:38,589
and we felt like we needed...

1271
01:02:38,673 --> 01:02:41,673
a more experienced person
at the helm.

1272
01:02:42,673 --> 01:02:44,881
[Ginger]
It was surprising how quickly

1273
01:02:44,964 --> 01:02:47,798
people came out of the woodwork,
other managers,

1274
01:02:47,881 --> 01:02:49,923
saying how they could do
so much better

1275
01:02:50,005 --> 01:02:53,047
if they had a big management
team behind them.

1276
01:02:54,714 --> 01:02:56,381
[Gina]
I'm pretty sure that she knew

1277
01:02:56,464 --> 01:02:59,422
we wanted her to work
with a bigger manager

1278
01:02:59,506 --> 01:03:02,673
that had a firm
instead of like one person.

1279
01:03:02,756 --> 01:03:05,339
I'm getting kind of choked up,
my throat.

1280
01:03:05,422 --> 01:03:06,923
It's like...

1281
01:03:07,005 --> 01:03:09,631
No, no, it's just that
it's emotional for me,

1282
01:03:09,714 --> 01:03:11,047
because going back to that time

1283
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:14,506
it was difficult, remembering it
and how I felt.

1284
01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:18,839
It was very painful.

1285
01:03:18,923 --> 01:03:21,089
My band was taken away from me.

1286
01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,047
I remember sitting in
on meetings

1287
01:03:23,130 --> 01:03:25,881
and feeling incredibly little

1288
01:03:25,964 --> 01:03:27,923
as the girls sat
on the edge of their seat

1289
01:03:28,005 --> 01:03:31,381
looking enthralled
by these new managers,

1290
01:03:31,464 --> 01:03:33,089
all men,
not that that mattered,

1291
01:03:33,172 --> 01:03:35,297
but just like a new power base,

1292
01:03:35,381 --> 01:03:37,047
like this was going
to be great,

1293
01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:39,923
that this was going to be,
like, change everything.

1294
01:03:40,005 --> 01:03:42,798
It was horrible having them say
with the band there,

1295
01:03:42,881 --> 01:03:45,923
"Well, Ginger, we know you know
how to take a band from A to B,

1296
01:03:46,005 --> 01:03:47,381
and you do a great job.

1297
01:03:47,464 --> 01:03:50,214
We can take that band
from B to Z."

1298
01:03:50,297 --> 01:03:55,172
We felt like it was going
to help us go to another level.

1299
01:03:55,255 --> 01:03:56,839
People that set all of it
in motion,

1300
01:03:56,923 --> 01:03:59,047
they knew that my days
would be numbered,

1301
01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:01,005
that anyone with any integrity,

1302
01:04:01,089 --> 01:04:04,089
you're not going to stick
around. Why would you?

1303
01:04:04,172 --> 01:04:07,547
I guess we hurt her,
must have hurt her pretty badly

1304
01:04:07,631 --> 01:04:11,422
because she just,
one day she was gone.

1305
01:04:11,506 --> 01:04:14,255
It was no "fuck you" or nothing,
it was just gone.

1306
01:04:14,339 --> 01:04:17,130
[director]
How angry were you?

1307
01:04:17,214 --> 01:04:19,130
Angry enough to move
to New York?

1308
01:04:21,631 --> 01:04:24,756
[Belinda]
She was like the sixth Go-Go.

1309
01:04:24,839 --> 01:04:29,798
When she left, it really turned
into a big business.

1310
01:04:29,881 --> 01:04:32,172
It wasn't even that much fun
anymore.

1311
01:04:32,255 --> 01:04:35,422
We just, that's all we knew
how to do was be a Go-Go.

1312
01:04:38,047 --> 01:04:40,130
[Jane] Gina was in our new
manager's office,

1313
01:04:40,214 --> 01:04:42,964
supposedly a more professional
management company

1314
01:04:43,047 --> 01:04:44,172
who turned out to suck,

1315
01:04:44,255 --> 01:04:46,756
we should've just stuck
with Ginger.

1316
01:04:46,839 --> 01:04:50,839
But, I guess Gina saw a check
that Charlotte got

1317
01:04:50,923 --> 01:04:53,214
and it was for, like,
a gazillion dollars.

1318
01:04:53,297 --> 01:04:56,005
And of course, Gina wasn't
getting a check like that.

1319
01:04:56,089 --> 01:04:57,756
I almost fell over.

1320
01:04:57,839 --> 01:05:00,839
He said,
"See how much she makes?

1321
01:05:00,923 --> 01:05:03,631
That's 'cause she's
a songwriter."

1322
01:05:03,714 --> 01:05:06,506
[Miles] There are two ways
you make money out of a record.

1323
01:05:06,589 --> 01:05:08,881
You make it in the recording
and the publishing.

1324
01:05:08,964 --> 01:05:10,673
The person who writes
the songs,

1325
01:05:10,756 --> 01:05:14,673
which is really
the vehicle that you need...

1326
01:05:14,756 --> 01:05:16,506
is going to make more money.

1327
01:05:16,589 --> 01:05:18,506
And that can cause problems.

1328
01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:20,297
You write a lot
of the songs, right?

1329
01:05:20,381 --> 01:05:21,464
-Yeah.
-With Charlotte?

1330
01:05:21,547 --> 01:05:23,714
[Jane] Charlotte writing
"We Got The Beat"

1331
01:05:23,798 --> 01:05:25,214
all by herself,
that song was huge.

1332
01:05:25,297 --> 01:05:28,214
It's like everyone wanted it for
commercials and movies

1333
01:05:28,297 --> 01:05:29,631
and TV shows, and that's like

1334
01:05:29,714 --> 01:05:32,047
cha-ching, cha-ching,
cha-ching, cha-ching.

1335
01:05:32,130 --> 01:05:35,047
Songwriting was so important
to me, it was my identity.

1336
01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:38,172
That's why I held so close,
so dear to me

1337
01:05:38,255 --> 01:05:41,047
and, you know, you can't, you
can't take any part of this.

1338
01:05:41,130 --> 01:05:44,047
This is mine, this is who I am.

1339
01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:46,923
I will still stand behind
the belief that songwriting

1340
01:05:47,005 --> 01:05:49,881
is a really specific skill
that many people don't have,

1341
01:05:49,964 --> 01:05:51,422
and it's a lot of extra
hard work

1342
01:05:51,506 --> 01:05:53,172
that other people aren't doing.

1343
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:57,047
[Kathy] I'd made more money

1344
01:05:57,130 --> 01:06:00,005
than I'd ever imagined
in my lifetime,

1345
01:06:00,089 --> 01:06:03,964
but I knew there was going to be
an issue in the discrepancy

1346
01:06:04,047 --> 01:06:07,130
between the highest earner,
who was Charlotte,

1347
01:06:07,214 --> 01:06:10,798
and the lowest earner,
who was Gina and Belinda.

1348
01:06:10,881 --> 01:06:12,631
I knew there was gonna be
a problem.

1349
01:06:12,714 --> 01:06:15,506
Most people think that we're
really rich right now,

1350
01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:18,339
but I don't...

1351
01:06:18,422 --> 01:06:21,255
I know that we're
not rich right now!

1352
01:06:21,339 --> 01:06:24,047
[Belinda] I was too busy
having a lot of fun,

1353
01:06:24,130 --> 01:06:27,255
and I just let the others
write the songs.

1354
01:06:27,339 --> 01:06:29,923
Gina would say to me,
"This is not fair,"

1355
01:06:30,005 --> 01:06:34,339
and, you know, and I would say,
"I know it's not fair,"

1356
01:06:34,422 --> 01:06:36,923
but I felt like inside

1357
01:06:37,005 --> 01:06:39,089
like I really had no right
to say anything

1358
01:06:39,172 --> 01:06:41,172
because I was such a fuck-up.

1359
01:06:43,172 --> 01:06:46,589
[Kathy] What scared me was
an unhappy lead singer,

1360
01:06:46,673 --> 01:06:50,047
who pretty much made the band
into contenders,

1361
01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:53,964
feeling cheated
and unappreciated.

1362
01:06:54,047 --> 01:06:55,964
It set up a vibe

1363
01:06:56,047 --> 01:07:00,547
where I started feeling very
concerned about our future.

1364
01:07:02,589 --> 01:07:05,172
And it's like,
are you fucking kidding me?

1365
01:07:05,255 --> 01:07:08,964
Now, we're already having this
be a problem?

1366
01:07:09,047 --> 01:07:11,172
The fighting
and the real drugs

1367
01:07:11,255 --> 01:07:15,881
happen when we all get money,
you know.

1368
01:07:15,964 --> 01:07:17,923
It wrecks everything.

1369
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:24,547
♪ Walking around it's clear
that I'm worlds away ♪

1370
01:07:24,631 --> 01:07:28,631
Charlotte was isolating
quite a bit.

1371
01:07:28,714 --> 01:07:30,589
I spend a lot of time here.

1372
01:07:30,673 --> 01:07:31,881
I don't go out that often,

1373
01:07:32,005 --> 01:07:34,297
because I like it here a lot
in my house.

1374
01:07:34,381 --> 01:07:38,339
I bought a house up in the hills
and I was by myself.

1375
01:07:38,422 --> 01:07:40,673
It was a bad situation.

1376
01:07:40,756 --> 01:07:43,089
I was suffering,

1377
01:07:43,172 --> 01:07:46,798
and I didn't know who to talk
to or what to do.

1378
01:07:46,881 --> 01:07:48,798
[Belinda]
No, we're just like sisters

1379
01:07:48,881 --> 01:07:51,756
and we're all looking out for,
you know,

1380
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:54,339
each other all the time,

1381
01:07:54,422 --> 01:07:57,172
and we all love each other
very much.

1382
01:07:58,255 --> 01:08:01,172
We didn't communicate,
and then when we did communicate

1383
01:08:01,255 --> 01:08:03,881
we didn't do it in a loving,
sort of respectful way.

1384
01:08:03,964 --> 01:08:08,422
[Jane] By 1984, things were
getting pretty frazzled with us.

1385
01:08:08,506 --> 01:08:12,798
We'd still really never had been
given enough time to write

1386
01:08:12,881 --> 01:08:14,381
or recuperate or anything.

1387
01:08:14,464 --> 01:08:16,339
So, it was very tense.

1388
01:08:16,422 --> 01:08:20,047
[Gina] Being in a band, you
become each other's best friends

1389
01:08:20,130 --> 01:08:22,381
and also each other's
worst enemies.

1390
01:08:23,464 --> 01:08:26,881
[Kathy] It became a difficult
place to be

1391
01:08:26,964 --> 01:08:29,381
because I always wanted
to put out fires.

1392
01:08:30,631 --> 01:08:34,297
Somebody's not happy, you know,
fix this, fix, fix, fix,

1393
01:08:34,381 --> 01:08:37,255
you know, and have fun.

1394
01:08:37,339 --> 01:08:39,756
No matter how miserable
everyone is, have fun.

1395
01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:43,714
[military drumming]

1396
01:08:43,798 --> 01:08:47,381
[car horns honking]

1397
01:08:47,464 --> 01:08:49,881
[Gina] This is when we first
got to England,

1398
01:08:49,964 --> 01:08:51,756
making the third record.

1399
01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,631
And this was the clown family.

1400
01:08:54,714 --> 01:08:57,339
[Kathy] We had something called
the clown family

1401
01:08:57,422 --> 01:09:00,673
where everybody posed the same
way and put on a clown nose.

1402
01:09:01,881 --> 01:09:04,673
[Gina] This is the clown family
watching TV.

1403
01:09:08,339 --> 01:09:11,923
And here's the clown family
doing some blow,

1404
01:09:12,005 --> 01:09:14,422
upon arrival in London.

1405
01:09:16,214 --> 01:09:19,255
[laughing]

1406
01:09:20,631 --> 01:09:24,255
The ultimate is the clown family
giving birth to another clown.

1407
01:09:24,339 --> 01:09:27,923
[laughing]
Except Jane was the other clown.

1408
01:09:28,005 --> 01:09:30,339
Every single person
birthed Jane.

1409
01:09:32,089 --> 01:09:35,381
♪ Like an old movie backdrop ♪

1410
01:09:37,422 --> 01:09:40,214
♪ The radio's blasting ♪

1411
01:09:40,297 --> 01:09:42,839
We still managed to have a lot
of fun,

1412
01:09:42,923 --> 01:09:45,464
despite what might have
been going on.

1413
01:09:45,547 --> 01:09:50,297
♪ She says "I just wanted
to make you" ♪

1414
01:09:50,381 --> 01:09:54,714
♪ "I never meant to break you"
♪

1415
01:09:54,798 --> 01:09:58,547
♪ He says "Have some mercy
on me" ♪

1416
01:10:01,297 --> 01:10:06,130
♪ "Do you have to be
such a mercenary?" ♪

1417
01:10:10,798 --> 01:10:12,172
[Miles] I went into the studio

1418
01:10:12,255 --> 01:10:14,422
when they were recording
the third album.

1419
01:10:14,506 --> 01:10:17,297
There was a famous scene of one
of the members vomiting on me,

1420
01:10:17,381 --> 01:10:19,506
you know,
she'd had too much to drink.

1421
01:10:19,589 --> 01:10:21,172
I won't mention who,

1422
01:10:21,255 --> 01:10:24,339
but I was covered in vomit
in the studio.

1423
01:10:24,422 --> 01:10:26,089
So, I knew stuff was going on.

1424
01:10:26,172 --> 01:10:28,381
Good evening,
I'm Charlotte.

1425
01:10:28,464 --> 01:10:31,339
-Good evening, I'm Gina.
-Good evening, I'm Jane.

1426
01:10:31,422 --> 01:10:33,255
-I'm Kathy.
-Good evening, I'm Belinda,

1427
01:10:33,339 --> 01:10:36,005
-I'm The Go-Go's.
-She's not! No, I'm The Go-Go's.

1428
01:10:36,089 --> 01:10:38,506
-I'm The Go-Go's.
-No, we're all The Go-Go's.

1429
01:10:38,589 --> 01:10:40,422
Well, anyway...

1430
01:10:40,506 --> 01:10:43,756
[Kathy] We'd started writing
songs for the third record,

1431
01:10:43,839 --> 01:10:48,089
but Charlotte hit
a bit of a writing block.

1432
01:10:48,172 --> 01:10:52,089
It got harder to write,
actually, it prevented me.

1433
01:10:52,172 --> 01:10:53,631
I was really writing a lot,

1434
01:10:53,714 --> 01:10:57,589
because Charlotte was in a lot
of trouble with the drugs.

1435
01:10:57,673 --> 01:11:02,214
♪ When it goes dark,
forget the night ♪

1436
01:11:03,339 --> 01:11:06,589
There are people that really
loved that album,

1437
01:11:06,673 --> 01:11:08,714
but I can't even listen to it

1438
01:11:08,798 --> 01:11:13,464
because to me I was so miserable
during that time, oh, my God.

1439
01:11:14,506 --> 01:11:17,130
♪ When it goes dark ♪

1440
01:11:17,214 --> 01:11:19,339
♪ Get me to bed ♪

1441
01:11:19,422 --> 01:11:22,047
On that trip,
there was an implosion.

1442
01:11:22,130 --> 01:11:23,631
Jane got really upset.

1443
01:11:23,714 --> 01:11:26,214
♪ Wait for the light of day ♪

1444
01:11:26,297 --> 01:11:28,964
I think she felt frustrated
probably with me

1445
01:11:29,047 --> 01:11:31,172
and with wanting to have
a bigger role.

1446
01:11:31,255 --> 01:11:32,923
♪ I'm the only one you run to ♪

1447
01:11:33,005 --> 01:11:34,798
♪ The one you come to ♪

1448
01:11:34,881 --> 01:11:36,589
♪ The only one you can get to ♪

1449
01:11:36,673 --> 01:11:39,089
♪ I'm the only one for you ♪

1450
01:11:39,172 --> 01:11:41,964
-♪ I'm the only one ♪
-♪ Only one for you ♪

1451
01:11:42,047 --> 01:11:45,422
-♪ I'm the only one ♪
-♪ Only one for you ♪

1452
01:11:45,506 --> 01:11:48,589
-♪ I'm the only one ♪
-♪ Only one for you ♪

1453
01:11:48,673 --> 01:11:50,214
♪ I'm the only one ♪

1454
01:11:50,297 --> 01:11:52,089
[Jane] When we were recording
the album,

1455
01:11:52,172 --> 01:11:55,089
I had decided that I wanted
to sing one song on the record,

1456
01:11:55,172 --> 01:11:56,923
and there was one song
that I'd written

1457
01:11:57,005 --> 01:11:59,839
that was super personal to me
called "Forget That Day."

1458
01:11:59,923 --> 01:12:01,756
Then, I went to each girl
and was like,

1459
01:12:01,839 --> 01:12:03,923
"Please,
can I sing this one song?"

1460
01:12:04,005 --> 01:12:07,214
♪ I remember that day ♪

1461
01:12:07,297 --> 01:12:10,756
♪ Wind pushing birds around ♪

1462
01:12:10,839 --> 01:12:14,714
She came to us
and we just said, "No."

1463
01:12:14,798 --> 01:12:18,214
Belinda was the lead singer,
it just felt weird.

1464
01:12:18,297 --> 01:12:20,923
We decided that
that wasn't the way to go,

1465
01:12:21,005 --> 01:12:24,464
that we wanted to keep everybody
had their role within the band,

1466
01:12:24,547 --> 01:12:26,297
and that was the way
it was going to be.

1467
01:12:26,381 --> 01:12:28,005
I don't really like to talk
about that,

1468
01:12:28,089 --> 01:12:32,464
because it wasn't like a
unanimous thing in this band.

1469
01:12:32,547 --> 01:12:33,964
One of them said,

1470
01:12:34,047 --> 01:12:36,964
"What makes you think you're
good enough to sing a song?"

1471
01:12:37,047 --> 01:12:40,047
Which is something I'll never
forget hearing.

1472
01:12:40,130 --> 01:12:41,798
It was a huge betrayal,

1473
01:12:41,881 --> 01:12:44,464
and I did not know how to get
past it.

1474
01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:46,422
♪ I lost my heart ♪

1475
01:12:46,506 --> 01:12:50,172
♪ But I just said
I hate heights ♪

1476
01:12:50,255 --> 01:12:52,089
It never occurred to any of us

1477
01:12:52,172 --> 01:12:55,756
that we have to sit down
and how can we make this work?

1478
01:12:56,798 --> 01:13:00,172
But, no, nothing could change,
nobody could grow.

1479
01:13:00,255 --> 01:13:01,964
And I was part of it, too.

1480
01:13:02,047 --> 01:13:04,464
♪ I left to get
some work done ♪

1481
01:13:04,547 --> 01:13:09,339
We made Belinda feel guilty
for being a star and a diva.

1482
01:13:11,923 --> 01:13:16,673
We made Jane feel like what
she wanted and needed

1483
01:13:16,756 --> 01:13:20,172
was not important enough for us
to even sit down and talk about.

1484
01:13:21,506 --> 01:13:24,798
We made Gina feel like what she
contributed wasn't enough.

1485
01:13:24,881 --> 01:13:27,172
You don't deserve to make
as much.

1486
01:13:27,255 --> 01:13:30,172
♪ Why'd you say you love me ♪

1487
01:13:30,255 --> 01:13:32,756
And we couldn't see the pain

1488
01:13:32,839 --> 01:13:36,214
that Charlotte was walking
around in.

1489
01:13:36,297 --> 01:13:38,589
♪ Try to forget that day ♪

1490
01:13:46,381 --> 01:13:48,214
[Miles] I was always an optimist

1491
01:13:48,297 --> 01:13:51,297
hoping that we would keep
the things together.

1492
01:13:51,381 --> 01:13:54,547
I don't know that they
recognized then,

1493
01:13:54,631 --> 01:13:58,172
and after the third album,
what they really had together.

1494
01:13:59,714 --> 01:14:02,381
♪ Head over heels,
where should I go ♪

1495
01:14:02,464 --> 01:14:04,798
[Kathy] "Head Over Heels",
we made a video,

1496
01:14:04,881 --> 01:14:07,881
it got released as a single.

1497
01:14:07,964 --> 01:14:10,589
The tour machine's picking up.

1498
01:14:10,673 --> 01:14:12,714
♪ ...out of sync ♪

1499
01:14:12,798 --> 01:14:16,506
♪♪♪

1500
01:14:16,589 --> 01:14:18,881
We were getting ready to tour
for the third record.

1501
01:14:18,964 --> 01:14:20,798
We were at rehearsal
and a call came in,

1502
01:14:20,881 --> 01:14:23,214
it was like, "Gina,
your doctor's on the phone."

1503
01:14:23,297 --> 01:14:25,839
I was like... We all sort of
stopped, like, what is this?

1504
01:14:25,923 --> 01:14:29,172
Gina had always been like coming
off stage, "I can't breathe,"

1505
01:14:29,255 --> 01:14:31,798
and we'd be like, "Oh, my God,
she's such a drama queen,"

1506
01:14:31,881 --> 01:14:35,923
like, no, absolutely like no
sympathy whatsoever for her.

1507
01:14:36,005 --> 01:14:37,255
Now what?

1508
01:14:37,339 --> 01:14:41,422
Because she has been seeing
this doctor and that doctor

1509
01:14:41,506 --> 01:14:43,381
and we're just like,
"Oh, come on."

1510
01:14:43,464 --> 01:14:45,339
But as it turns out she couldn't
breathe

1511
01:14:45,422 --> 01:14:46,798
because she had a hole
in her heart

1512
01:14:46,881 --> 01:14:49,756
and she wasn't getting enough
oxygen. Yeah, so... our bad.

1513
01:14:49,839 --> 01:14:52,172
Gina was diagnosed with a hole
in her heart.

1514
01:14:52,255 --> 01:14:53,798
She was going to have surgery.

1515
01:14:53,881 --> 01:14:55,464
Heart surgery, what the fuck?

1516
01:14:55,547 --> 01:14:56,631
It was a little scary,

1517
01:14:56,714 --> 01:14:59,130
but we dealt with it
with a lot of, like, humor.

1518
01:14:59,214 --> 01:15:01,714
Our humor was, you know,

1519
01:15:01,798 --> 01:15:04,673
always gallows dark.

1520
01:15:04,756 --> 01:15:07,923
So, we decided to have
this final lost weekend

1521
01:15:08,005 --> 01:15:11,130
in Palm Springs together
just in case Gina croaked.

1522
01:15:11,214 --> 01:15:13,631
They were taking me out
on my last hurrah.

1523
01:15:13,714 --> 01:15:16,839
♪♪♪

1524
01:15:16,923 --> 01:15:20,798
We rented I think a convertible
Jag and a convertible Cadillac.

1525
01:15:20,881 --> 01:15:24,631
Let's buy a bunch of drugs
and go out to the desert.

1526
01:15:24,714 --> 01:15:26,964
[Jane] We had just like
a shit ton of drugs

1527
01:15:27,047 --> 01:15:29,589
and we're driving
into Palm Springs

1528
01:15:29,673 --> 01:15:31,047
going 100 miles an hour.

1529
01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:32,589
[truck horn blaring]

1530
01:15:35,214 --> 01:15:37,255
It was a total weekend
of debauchery

1531
01:15:37,339 --> 01:15:41,297
and drugs and drinking.

1532
01:15:41,381 --> 01:15:44,297
♪ Sex ♪

1533
01:15:46,964 --> 01:15:48,631
[Jane]
And we had a special rule

1534
01:15:48,714 --> 01:15:50,631
that Gina was not allowed
to do cocaine,

1535
01:15:50,714 --> 01:15:53,047
she can only do booze,
Valium and mushrooms,

1536
01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:54,798
so you know,
we were keeping her safe!

1537
01:15:54,881 --> 01:15:58,047
Because they didn't want me
to have a heart attack.

1538
01:15:58,130 --> 01:15:59,673
[laughing]

1539
01:15:59,756 --> 01:16:04,673
♪♪♪

1540
01:16:10,506 --> 01:16:13,506
[Belinda] It did bring the band
together temporarily.

1541
01:16:13,589 --> 01:16:16,756
[Gina] It's funny how you can
feel so isolated

1542
01:16:16,839 --> 01:16:18,839
from people in the band,

1543
01:16:18,923 --> 01:16:22,923
and then in a minute, in a
second, you're family again.

1544
01:16:24,005 --> 01:16:26,798
We were really at odds,
and when I had that surgery

1545
01:16:26,881 --> 01:16:30,547
everybody sort of came together
for a while there.

1546
01:16:30,631 --> 01:16:33,005
[host] We've gotten a lot of
calls and letters

1547
01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:34,714
and your fans are real
concerned.

1548
01:16:34,798 --> 01:16:37,255
If you could just give us
an update on your health?

1549
01:16:37,339 --> 01:16:38,631
I'm fine.
My heart is better.

1550
01:16:38,714 --> 01:16:40,673
My doctor told me I can do
anything I like.

1551
01:16:40,756 --> 01:16:44,089
I can't wait to get out on tour
because I'm bored to death.

1552
01:16:44,172 --> 01:16:45,798
[laughing]

1553
01:16:45,881 --> 01:16:48,047
[host] Well, I do want
to talk about the tour.

1554
01:16:48,130 --> 01:16:50,714
What kind of tour sponsorship
are you considering?

1555
01:16:50,798 --> 01:16:53,255
[Jane] Before the album was
released, that's kind of

1556
01:16:53,339 --> 01:16:55,964
when the publishing thing
really came to a head.

1557
01:16:56,047 --> 01:16:57,381
We were called to a meeting

1558
01:16:57,464 --> 01:16:59,506
at the crappy management's
office,

1559
01:16:59,589 --> 01:17:03,214
and it was stated all
the publishing

1560
01:17:03,297 --> 01:17:04,673
needs to be split equally.

1561
01:17:04,756 --> 01:17:07,381
And then, I said,
"Well, wait a minute,

1562
01:17:07,464 --> 01:17:09,381
"this album is totally done.

1563
01:17:09,464 --> 01:17:12,422
"I totally agree to do that
for the next album,

1564
01:17:12,506 --> 01:17:14,214
"but I'm not doing it
for this album,

1565
01:17:14,297 --> 01:17:16,089
because I fucking worked
my ass off."

1566
01:17:16,172 --> 01:17:18,422
And they're like,
"Nope, you gotta do it."

1567
01:17:18,506 --> 01:17:19,547
I'm like, "I won't do it."

1568
01:17:19,631 --> 01:17:21,381
"You've gotta do it."
"I won't do it."

1569
01:17:21,464 --> 01:17:23,506
And then, I just said,
"Fuck you, I quit."

1570
01:17:23,589 --> 01:17:25,214
And that's when I quit
the band.

1571
01:17:26,255 --> 01:17:28,881
But, of course,
I couldn't leave the band yet

1572
01:17:28,964 --> 01:17:31,255
because we had a whole,
huge tour planned

1573
01:17:31,339 --> 01:17:32,631
to support the new album.

1574
01:17:32,714 --> 01:17:34,923
She told us that she was, after
the tour for

1575
01:17:35,005 --> 01:17:36,798
Talk Show
she was going to leave.

1576
01:17:36,881 --> 01:17:40,422
[host] You guys have been
together now for quite a while.

1577
01:17:40,506 --> 01:17:43,756
Do you still all just get along
as friends?

1578
01:17:43,839 --> 01:17:45,631
Argh!

1579
01:17:45,714 --> 01:17:47,422
There would be a lot
of questions

1580
01:17:47,506 --> 01:17:50,255
about what our relationship
with each other was like.

1581
01:17:50,339 --> 01:17:53,214
"Oh, we love each other.
We're like sisters."

1582
01:17:53,297 --> 01:17:56,589
Yeah, like sisters that fucking
stab each other in the back.

1583
01:17:56,673 --> 01:17:59,923
[crowd cheering]

1584
01:18:02,756 --> 01:18:07,673
♪♪♪

1585
01:18:07,756 --> 01:18:09,798
It was a little toxic,
shall we say.

1586
01:18:11,005 --> 01:18:13,089
♪ But I know
what you're doing ♪

1587
01:18:13,172 --> 01:18:16,381
But the machine, Go-Go machine,
had to keep going.

1588
01:18:16,464 --> 01:18:18,923
♪ Falling to ruin ♪

1589
01:18:19,005 --> 01:18:21,589
♪ You got your walls so high ♪

1590
01:18:21,673 --> 01:18:24,089
Things were really coming apart.

1591
01:18:24,172 --> 01:18:27,297
♪ There may be some
explanation ♪

1592
01:18:27,381 --> 01:18:31,130
[Kathy]
This band is everything to me.

1593
01:18:31,214 --> 01:18:36,255
My driving focus was to keep
that shit together.

1594
01:18:36,339 --> 01:18:39,047
♪ I just want to turn to you ♪

1595
01:18:39,130 --> 01:18:41,214
-♪ Come on let me turn to you ♪
-♪ Turn to you ♪

1596
01:18:41,297 --> 01:18:42,881
♪ Turn to you ♪

1597
01:18:42,964 --> 01:18:45,923
[Charlotte] There was a lot
of crap going on,

1598
01:18:46,005 --> 01:18:50,673
and it felt like the dream
of The Go-Go's was slipping away

1599
01:18:50,756 --> 01:18:54,464
and, of course, I more so felt
like my life was slipping away.

1600
01:18:56,547 --> 01:18:58,923
♪ It has a lot to do ♪

1601
01:18:59,005 --> 01:19:00,839
[Jane]
There were definitely times

1602
01:19:00,923 --> 01:19:04,673
when you really had to fake it
to get through it.

1603
01:19:04,756 --> 01:19:07,881
We had this whole thing
that we called robo Go-Go-ing,

1604
01:19:07,964 --> 01:19:10,589
where you would just get out
there on stage

1605
01:19:10,673 --> 01:19:12,422
and no one would fucking know

1606
01:19:12,506 --> 01:19:14,964
that you had just had
a screaming fight backstage.

1607
01:19:15,047 --> 01:19:18,339
You would just get out there
and be like, robo Go-Go!

1608
01:19:18,422 --> 01:19:21,255
♪ I want to turn to you ♪

1609
01:19:21,339 --> 01:19:23,881
♪ Come on,
let me turn to you ♪

1610
01:19:23,964 --> 01:19:25,964
♪ Please let me turn to you ♪

1611
01:19:26,047 --> 01:19:27,422
During the tour,

1612
01:19:27,506 --> 01:19:30,381
Jane announced that she was
leaving, which I didn't believe.

1613
01:19:30,464 --> 01:19:34,381
And then, sure enough she did
and it was really devastating.

1614
01:19:34,464 --> 01:19:36,589
[crowd cheering]

1615
01:19:36,673 --> 01:19:38,714
I felt completely betrayed.

1616
01:19:38,798 --> 01:19:40,422
I felt like...

1617
01:19:40,506 --> 01:19:44,005
she was breaking up something
that was so precious.

1618
01:19:44,089 --> 01:19:46,214
We knew we were in trouble then,

1619
01:19:46,297 --> 01:19:49,089
because, I mean,
she's an original member,

1620
01:19:49,172 --> 01:19:51,714
she's a key songwriter,
and she's irreplaceable.

1621
01:19:51,798 --> 01:19:53,839
It was like a hatchet had come
and just...

1622
01:19:53,923 --> 01:19:56,130
it was never going to be
the same after that.

1623
01:19:56,214 --> 01:19:59,798
That was it, really, a piece
of the puzzle was missing.

1624
01:20:02,089 --> 01:20:06,547
I felt like the rat that had,
you know, left the sinking ship.

1625
01:20:08,047 --> 01:20:12,047
[Miles]
The Go-Go's as a unit worked.

1626
01:20:12,130 --> 01:20:15,255
And you take out a piece,
is the picture complete?

1627
01:20:16,631 --> 01:20:17,881
Maybe not.

1628
01:20:19,964 --> 01:20:23,589
[Kathy] I just thought this
could be the end of everything.

1629
01:20:23,673 --> 01:20:27,464
All I was, I was a Go-Go,
that was all.

1630
01:20:27,547 --> 01:20:31,589
That meant I could take care
of my mom.

1631
01:20:31,673 --> 01:20:34,422
By this time,
I'm supporting my mom.

1632
01:20:34,506 --> 01:20:36,631
It's easier to find
a bass player

1633
01:20:36,714 --> 01:20:38,255
than it is a guitar player.

1634
01:20:38,339 --> 01:20:40,506
I'll play guitar,
we'll get a bass player.

1635
01:20:40,589 --> 01:20:43,047
Hundreds of girls wanted to be
in The Go-Go's.

1636
01:20:43,130 --> 01:20:44,714
Big surprise.

1637
01:20:46,047 --> 01:20:48,547
[Charlotte]
I really wanted Paula Jean,

1638
01:20:48,631 --> 01:20:51,297
and the other girls weren't
really agreeing with me,

1639
01:20:51,381 --> 01:20:53,214
but for some reason
they acquiesced,

1640
01:20:53,297 --> 01:20:56,047
and Paula Jean became
our bass player.

1641
01:20:57,297 --> 01:20:59,964
[Paula Jean] I felt like Dorothy
walking into Oz,

1642
01:21:00,047 --> 01:21:02,589
because they were all
so much shorter than me.

1643
01:21:02,673 --> 01:21:05,631
I knew before I auditioned that
the band was having problems

1644
01:21:05,714 --> 01:21:07,005
because Jane quit the band,

1645
01:21:07,089 --> 01:21:09,464
and I had read enough
and followed them enough

1646
01:21:09,547 --> 01:21:14,130
to know that things weren't
going great interpersonally.

1647
01:21:15,214 --> 01:21:17,798
[Kathy] So, we started
rehearsing with Paula Jean,

1648
01:21:17,881 --> 01:21:19,798
getting ready to go to Rio.

1649
01:21:19,881 --> 01:21:21,923
We're playing the biggest show
of our life.

1650
01:21:22,005 --> 01:21:25,631
It's the Rock in Rio festival.

1651
01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:27,130
[man]
Belinda!

1652
01:21:27,214 --> 01:21:30,005
What are your expectations
towards the festival?

1653
01:21:30,089 --> 01:21:31,964
Should be a lot of fun.

1654
01:21:33,339 --> 01:21:36,673
[Paula Jean] I could tell that
the joy of them playing together

1655
01:21:36,756 --> 01:21:39,506
was not what it probably
once was.

1656
01:21:39,589 --> 01:21:43,881
It felt to me like they were
all trying to muster it

1657
01:21:43,964 --> 01:21:46,089
for the occasion.

1658
01:21:46,923 --> 01:21:48,047
[Gina] In Rio,

1659
01:21:48,130 --> 01:21:50,339
this is the height of
everybody's drug intake.

1660
01:21:50,422 --> 01:21:53,172
People driving around in cabs
searching for coke all night.

1661
01:21:53,255 --> 01:21:56,089
[Belinda] I didn't sleep for,
like, a week.

1662
01:21:58,339 --> 01:22:00,923
[Charlotte] I'm supposed to go
to sound check

1663
01:22:01,005 --> 01:22:03,047
and I went out to cop some dope.

1664
01:22:03,130 --> 01:22:05,506
I was late,
and I had to make up a big lie,

1665
01:22:05,589 --> 01:22:07,381
and that's another thing
with drugs,

1666
01:22:07,464 --> 01:22:11,005
like, you become a big liar.

1667
01:22:11,089 --> 01:22:13,089
[Gina]
Charlotte was so out of control

1668
01:22:13,172 --> 01:22:15,714
that Ozzy Osbourne threw her out
of his dressing room.

1669
01:22:15,798 --> 01:22:17,297
Now that's pretty fucking bad.

1670
01:22:17,381 --> 01:22:20,005
♪ Head over heels,
where should I go ♪

1671
01:22:20,089 --> 01:22:23,464
♪ Can't stop myself,
outta control ♪

1672
01:22:23,547 --> 01:22:25,547
♪ Head over heels,
no time to think ♪

1673
01:22:25,631 --> 01:22:28,839
♪ Looks like the whole world's
out of sync ♪

1674
01:22:31,506 --> 01:22:33,381
[Paula Jean]
The Go-Go's were a family,

1675
01:22:33,464 --> 01:22:35,464
and, you know,
I think that Gina and Kathy

1676
01:22:35,547 --> 01:22:38,798
kind of had become
the caretakers in a way,

1677
01:22:38,881 --> 01:22:40,714
trying to hold it together.

1678
01:22:43,881 --> 01:22:48,005
Charlotte was there, but you
could tell just not there.

1679
01:22:50,381 --> 01:22:54,089
It was just getting to be where
it was unsustainable.

1680
01:22:58,589 --> 01:23:00,130
[Kathy]
Paula goes,

1681
01:23:00,214 --> 01:23:04,047
"You guys, Charlotte's
really in trouble."

1682
01:23:04,130 --> 01:23:06,422
What?

1683
01:23:06,506 --> 01:23:07,923
New girl says what?

1684
01:23:08,005 --> 01:23:11,172
I said, "I just really feel
like she's going to die."

1685
01:23:12,881 --> 01:23:15,422
[Charlotte] Paula came to me
one day and said, you know,

1686
01:23:15,506 --> 01:23:18,923
"Charlotte, I know a place where
you can go to get some help."

1687
01:23:19,005 --> 01:23:20,839
And I said,
"What are you talking about?"

1688
01:23:20,923 --> 01:23:23,130
She told me about, you know,

1689
01:23:23,214 --> 01:23:28,089
a recovery hospital, you know,
for addicts.

1690
01:23:29,172 --> 01:23:32,798
And then, something shifted
in me.

1691
01:23:32,881 --> 01:23:34,422
I went back to Los Angeles

1692
01:23:34,506 --> 01:23:38,506
and I checked myself into rehab
with Paula's help.

1693
01:23:38,589 --> 01:23:42,631
I'm not saying it was easy,
but I was dedicated.

1694
01:23:42,714 --> 01:23:46,130
And I'm forever grateful to her
for giving me that information,

1695
01:23:46,214 --> 01:23:50,255
because it totally changed
my life and saved me.

1696
01:23:54,005 --> 01:23:56,673
When I got sober,
it was so amazing

1697
01:23:56,756 --> 01:24:01,589
to be free of that prison
that I was living in.

1698
01:24:02,464 --> 01:24:06,839
As dedicated as I was
to my band,

1699
01:24:06,923 --> 01:24:09,839
I was dedicated to myself.

1700
01:24:09,923 --> 01:24:12,673
When we started rehearsing again
for the fourth album,

1701
01:24:12,756 --> 01:24:16,172
I made the decision to choose
myself over the band.

1702
01:24:16,255 --> 01:24:18,673
It just wasn't working,
it wasn't going to work.

1703
01:24:18,756 --> 01:24:21,673
Paula was great,
but she wasn't Jane.

1704
01:24:21,756 --> 01:24:24,839
The only decent song that came
out of it was "Mad About You."

1705
01:24:24,923 --> 01:24:26,839
They really liked
"Mad About You."

1706
01:24:26,923 --> 01:24:29,964
It's a song that Paula wrote
for our band.

1707
01:24:30,047 --> 01:24:34,047
The relationships were
just disintegrating in the band.

1708
01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:38,297
Charlotte and I discussed
ending the band.

1709
01:24:41,089 --> 01:24:43,339
[Kathy] Gina and I are feeling
more and more

1710
01:24:43,422 --> 01:24:45,881
like Charlotte and Belinda
are on one side,

1711
01:24:45,964 --> 01:24:48,756
and me and Gina
are on the other side.

1712
01:24:51,130 --> 01:24:53,506
[Gina] Her and Belinda
called Kathy and myself

1713
01:24:53,589 --> 01:24:55,089
into management's office.

1714
01:24:55,172 --> 01:24:57,881
I was like, "This is not good."

1715
01:24:57,964 --> 01:24:59,297
It's not good.

1716
01:24:59,381 --> 01:25:02,714
Even now, I can't. Remembering
this makes me feel ill.

1717
01:25:02,798 --> 01:25:05,047
"We've decided to break up
the band,"

1718
01:25:05,130 --> 01:25:06,631
that was the first thing.

1719
01:25:06,714 --> 01:25:08,714
And Gina and I said, "You can't.

1720
01:25:08,798 --> 01:25:11,547
You can't do that,
it's our band too."

1721
01:25:11,631 --> 01:25:13,798
"Yes, we can."

1722
01:25:14,798 --> 01:25:16,964
Somebody said,

1723
01:25:17,047 --> 01:25:20,464
"She writes the hits
and I am the voice."

1724
01:25:20,547 --> 01:25:23,297
"She's the voice
and I write the hits."

1725
01:25:25,089 --> 01:25:28,381
And Kathy and I were fucking
flabbergasted.

1726
01:25:28,464 --> 01:25:32,631
They completely freaked out,
completely freaked out.

1727
01:25:32,714 --> 01:25:35,130
There was a lot of crying
and screaming.

1728
01:25:35,214 --> 01:25:36,923
I definitely raged,

1729
01:25:37,005 --> 01:25:39,714
and then, I dialed back the rage

1730
01:25:39,798 --> 01:25:42,964
and groveled, apologizing.

1731
01:25:43,047 --> 01:25:46,589
I... I wanted to kill
both of them.

1732
01:25:46,673 --> 01:25:48,589
I really did.

1733
01:25:48,673 --> 01:25:50,214
After all we'd been through,

1734
01:25:50,297 --> 01:25:52,923
how could you fucking dare
say that to me?

1735
01:25:53,005 --> 01:25:56,130
I won't survive this
if I stay here

1736
01:25:56,214 --> 01:25:59,089
and I cannot risk using
and drinking again,

1737
01:25:59,172 --> 01:26:00,422
I cannot risk that.

1738
01:26:00,506 --> 01:26:04,297
What was horrible was like
going home from that meeting

1739
01:26:04,381 --> 01:26:05,923
just shattered.

1740
01:26:06,005 --> 01:26:07,923
And then, the phone rings

1741
01:26:08,005 --> 01:26:11,547
and it's the guy
from the management company

1742
01:26:11,631 --> 01:26:15,422
and my heart just, like, "Ah,
they've changed their mind!"

1743
01:26:16,297 --> 01:26:17,756
And instead he goes,

1744
01:26:17,839 --> 01:26:20,214
"You're going to get a call from
The L.A. Times

1745
01:26:20,297 --> 01:26:23,172
to make a comment
about the band breaking up."

1746
01:26:23,255 --> 01:26:26,297
It's like, "What,
are you fucking kidding me?"

1747
01:26:26,381 --> 01:26:28,964
You know, it's been an hour.

1748
01:26:32,422 --> 01:26:35,297
Within months of me leaving
the band ended up breaking up,

1749
01:26:35,381 --> 01:26:37,589
and I certainly wasn't happy
about it,

1750
01:26:37,673 --> 01:26:39,464
but I also wasn't
surprised either.

1751
01:26:39,547 --> 01:26:41,798
[Charlotte]
We didn't speak to each other

1752
01:26:41,881 --> 01:26:44,130
for five years after that.

1753
01:26:44,214 --> 01:26:47,130
Gina and Kathy,
I didn't speak to.

1754
01:26:47,214 --> 01:26:49,798
Jane was off doing her solo
record.

1755
01:26:49,881 --> 01:26:52,297
I felt the need to try
something new.

1756
01:26:52,381 --> 01:26:55,714
I was also interested
in singing my own material.

1757
01:27:04,839 --> 01:27:06,839
I was used to being a big star,

1758
01:27:06,923 --> 01:27:09,673
and all of a sudden it was like,
"She sucks!"

1759
01:27:09,756 --> 01:27:12,673
I hated it so much
and I was just so mad,

1760
01:27:12,756 --> 01:27:17,547
but now honestly, I really feel
like the person I am today

1761
01:27:17,631 --> 01:27:21,130
would not exist without all
the failure I went through,

1762
01:27:21,214 --> 01:27:25,673
and all the success I ever had
never taught me one damn thing.

1763
01:27:25,756 --> 01:27:26,673
Never.

1764
01:27:28,422 --> 01:27:33,506
[Kathy] I tried so hard
to create another band

1765
01:27:33,589 --> 01:27:38,381
with the chemistry and the magic
that The Go-Go's had,

1766
01:27:38,464 --> 01:27:42,130
and nothing I did seemed
to work out.

1767
01:27:42,214 --> 01:27:43,506
I tried being a singer.

1768
01:27:43,589 --> 01:27:45,589
I never wanted to be a singer,
but I tried it.

1769
01:27:45,673 --> 01:27:47,172
I couldn't be a studio player

1770
01:27:47,255 --> 01:27:49,047
because I didn't know how
to read music

1771
01:27:49,130 --> 01:27:50,506
and that wasn't my thing.

1772
01:27:50,589 --> 01:27:53,673
And so, I went out
and tried to get a solo deal.

1773
01:27:53,756 --> 01:27:56,881
I did one show at the Roxy and
got signed by Capitol Records,

1774
01:27:56,964 --> 01:27:59,214
which was great for a while.

1775
01:27:59,297 --> 01:28:01,005
[Jane]
And then after a few years,

1776
01:28:01,089 --> 01:28:04,089
it was almost like The Go-Go's
didn't even exist anymore.

1777
01:28:04,172 --> 01:28:06,381
It was only like, Belinda!

1778
01:28:06,464 --> 01:28:08,381
[Katie Couric]
When The Go-Go's split up

1779
01:28:08,464 --> 01:28:10,464
I guess everybody went
their separate ways,

1780
01:28:10,547 --> 01:28:13,047
but you're the only one
who really hit it big.

1781
01:28:13,130 --> 01:28:14,839
Why do you think that's
the case?

1782
01:28:14,923 --> 01:28:17,214
Well, I think I definitely had
a head start

1783
01:28:17,297 --> 01:28:18,714
as being the focus
of the band,

1784
01:28:18,798 --> 01:28:20,798
which, you know,
people do tend to focus

1785
01:28:20,881 --> 01:28:22,798
on the lead singer of any band.

1786
01:28:22,881 --> 01:28:26,631
And, you know, that did give me
some advantages.

1787
01:28:26,714 --> 01:28:28,714
[Charlotte]
Belinda offered me a job.

1788
01:28:28,798 --> 01:28:32,089
She said, "Do you wanna tour
with me and write on my record?"

1789
01:28:32,172 --> 01:28:33,506
I was so grateful to her,

1790
01:28:33,589 --> 01:28:36,255
because that was still
at that place in my life

1791
01:28:36,339 --> 01:28:39,255
where that was my identity,
doing that,

1792
01:28:39,339 --> 01:28:43,297
and just beginning to find out
that that wasn't who--

1793
01:28:43,381 --> 01:28:46,297
that wasn't the totality
of who I am.

1794
01:28:46,381 --> 01:28:49,673
So, she gave me that bridge.

1795
01:28:50,964 --> 01:28:52,381
[Kathy] As they went on,

1796
01:28:52,464 --> 01:28:54,547
Charlotte was working
with Belinda.

1797
01:28:54,631 --> 01:28:56,339
Jane is back in the fold.

1798
01:28:56,422 --> 01:28:57,839
Now, all of a sudden, it's like,

1799
01:28:57,923 --> 01:28:59,964
the three of them
are doing shit for Belinda.

1800
01:29:00,047 --> 01:29:03,923
I started feeling like it was
a vendetta against me and Gina.

1801
01:29:04,005 --> 01:29:08,047
It was... it was horrible.

1802
01:29:10,089 --> 01:29:12,381
I just wanted to write
and play drums.

1803
01:29:12,464 --> 01:29:14,964
I've written stuff
for other people.

1804
01:29:15,047 --> 01:29:17,297
I had a song covered
by Miley Cyrus,

1805
01:29:17,381 --> 01:29:19,464
and then four songs
by Selena Gomez,

1806
01:29:19,547 --> 01:29:22,673
so I felt like, "Yeah, finally
getting what I deserve."

1807
01:29:22,756 --> 01:29:24,297
[laughing]

1808
01:29:24,381 --> 01:29:26,464
I've always known I had a book
in me...

1809
01:29:26,547 --> 01:29:27,631
When I turned 40,

1810
01:29:27,714 --> 01:29:30,506
I was dropped by my record
company as a solo artist,

1811
01:29:30,589 --> 01:29:33,297
and that was actually
the beginning of, like,

1812
01:29:33,381 --> 01:29:35,631
soul searching
and what is this all about?

1813
01:29:35,714 --> 01:29:37,339
What were The Go-Go's all about?

1814
01:29:37,422 --> 01:29:38,839
Who am I?

1815
01:29:38,923 --> 01:29:42,923
With sobriety, my world is vast
and bigger than it's ever been.

1816
01:29:43,005 --> 01:29:47,339
I think for me, there are a lot
of ego issues, to be honest,

1817
01:29:47,422 --> 01:29:51,089
a lot of slapping down
I've needed,

1818
01:29:51,172 --> 01:29:54,673
and a lot of...
I needed a lot of humbling.

1819
01:29:54,756 --> 01:29:58,673
It's five people in this band,

1820
01:29:58,756 --> 01:30:03,172
and everybody was set
on their own sort of course...

1821
01:30:04,214 --> 01:30:07,047
But then we got back together.
[laughing]

1822
01:30:07,130 --> 01:30:08,881
Because the story never ends!

1823
01:30:08,964 --> 01:30:10,589
The story never ends.

1824
01:30:10,673 --> 01:30:15,297
[crowd cheering loudly]

1825
01:30:15,381 --> 01:30:18,172
Thank you for coming out
tonight.

1826
01:30:18,255 --> 01:30:20,130
[playing "We Got the Beat"]

1827
01:30:20,214 --> 01:30:24,047
♪♪♪

1828
01:30:24,130 --> 01:30:26,923
♪ See the people walking
down the street ♪

1829
01:30:27,005 --> 01:30:31,881
[Kathy] As angry as I was when
they broke up the band,

1830
01:30:31,964 --> 01:30:33,673
I missed them.

1831
01:30:33,756 --> 01:30:37,714
Nobody really knows what that
felt like to be in The Go-Go's,

1832
01:30:37,798 --> 01:30:41,923
only four other people know
what that feels like.

1833
01:30:42,005 --> 01:30:43,214
And that's the bond.

1834
01:30:43,297 --> 01:30:48,381
Nothing has happened so bad
that it overshadows that.

1835
01:30:51,297 --> 01:30:53,089
I don't know how
this keeps going,

1836
01:30:53,172 --> 01:30:54,464
I swear to Christ, I don't.

1837
01:30:54,547 --> 01:30:56,714
[man]
The Go-Go's day in Hollywood!

1838
01:30:56,798 --> 01:30:59,714
[crowd cheering]

1839
01:31:03,130 --> 01:31:04,714
We are making Go-Go's history

1840
01:31:04,798 --> 01:31:07,881
with our debut as Broadway
songwriters.

1841
01:31:08,714 --> 01:31:10,756
[Gina]
You get older and you get wiser,

1842
01:31:10,839 --> 01:31:13,381
and you drop a lot
of the bullshit.

1843
01:31:13,464 --> 01:31:16,214
We are a family,
that's just what it is.

1844
01:31:16,297 --> 01:31:17,589
♪ We got the beat ♪

1845
01:31:17,673 --> 01:31:19,756
♪ Everybody get on your feet ♪

1846
01:31:19,839 --> 01:31:21,589
[out of sync]
♪ We know you can... ♪

1847
01:31:21,673 --> 01:31:23,923
-[laughing]
-Can you drum?

1848
01:31:24,005 --> 01:31:25,547
[Jane]
Gina needs coffee.

1849
01:31:25,631 --> 01:31:27,089
♪ We used to have the beat ♪

1850
01:31:27,172 --> 01:31:28,714
♪ We had the beat ♪

1851
01:31:28,798 --> 01:31:31,214
I remember when we had the beat!
We got it back.

1852
01:31:31,297 --> 01:31:34,172
♪ Everybody, we got the beat ♪

1853
01:31:34,255 --> 01:31:36,464
♪ We got the,
we got the beat ♪

1854
01:31:36,547 --> 01:31:38,172
[Kathy]
That was fantastic.

1855
01:31:38,255 --> 01:31:39,839
That was amazing.

1856
01:31:39,923 --> 01:31:43,464
Oh, my God, do we have
the motherfucking beat.

1857
01:31:43,547 --> 01:31:44,839
I love that.

1858
01:31:44,923 --> 01:31:48,005
That wasn't bad for not playing
together a really long time.

1859
01:31:48,089 --> 01:31:50,047
[playing guitar]

1860
01:31:50,130 --> 01:31:51,798
Hey, it doesn't hurt
to rehearse,

1861
01:31:51,881 --> 01:31:53,964
it only makes you tighter.

1862
01:31:54,047 --> 01:31:56,047
[Belinda]
I think that The Go-Go's,

1863
01:31:56,130 --> 01:31:57,464
if you believe in karma,

1864
01:31:57,547 --> 01:32:00,798
there's a lot of karmic ties
in this band.

1865
01:32:00,881 --> 01:32:03,381
Just the fact that we've been
in each other's lives

1866
01:32:03,464 --> 01:32:06,172
for so many years, it has to be
to work out something.

1867
01:32:06,255 --> 01:32:09,381
♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪

1868
01:32:09,464 --> 01:32:13,589
♪ They may have control
but we're not scared ♪

1869
01:32:15,214 --> 01:32:16,923
♪ Zero fucks given ♪

1870
01:32:17,005 --> 01:32:18,297
Oops.

1871
01:32:18,381 --> 01:32:21,547
About a year ago,
I went to a psychiatrist

1872
01:32:21,631 --> 01:32:24,589
who diagnosed me
as being bipolar.

1873
01:32:24,673 --> 01:32:27,339
♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪

1874
01:32:27,422 --> 01:32:29,422
For the first time in my life

1875
01:32:29,506 --> 01:32:32,631
I haven't thought of suicide
in a year,

1876
01:32:32,714 --> 01:32:34,923
which is like fucking
mind-blowing to me.

1877
01:32:35,005 --> 01:32:37,464
Do you want to decide which key
you like better?

1878
01:32:37,547 --> 01:32:38,839
-Yeah, that'd be good.
-Okay.

1879
01:32:38,923 --> 01:32:41,631
And luckily, The Go-Go's have
finally gotten to the point

1880
01:32:41,714 --> 01:32:44,673
where we actually can be civil
to each other and get along.

1881
01:32:44,756 --> 01:32:47,130
I can see the good in everyone
in the band.

1882
01:32:47,214 --> 01:32:51,005
[playing guitar]

1883
01:32:51,089 --> 01:32:55,089
♪ There's a place for us,
don't look for a sign ♪

1884
01:32:55,172 --> 01:32:57,339
♪ Not on a map ♪

1885
01:32:57,422 --> 01:32:59,631
♪ It's a state of mind ♪

1886
01:33:01,089 --> 01:33:03,172
♪ This is club zero ♪

1887
01:33:03,255 --> 01:33:05,255
Okay, so, verse or chorus?

1888
01:33:05,339 --> 01:33:07,923
We talked about things we wanted
to write about

1889
01:33:08,005 --> 01:33:10,964
and we did kind
of make a conscious decision

1890
01:33:11,047 --> 01:33:13,673
to try to write about, you know,

1891
01:33:13,756 --> 01:33:16,381
the place of women
and our future roles.

1892
01:33:16,464 --> 01:33:20,297
It's kind of a testament
to our longevity and our bond.

1893
01:33:20,381 --> 01:33:22,464
-Tenacity.
-And how we can work together.

1894
01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:25,130
That we've been able
to withstand it, I think...

1895
01:33:25,214 --> 01:33:26,005
[laughing]

1896
01:33:26,089 --> 01:33:27,422
[Charlotte]
It was hard!

1897
01:33:27,506 --> 01:33:29,798
We've been able to live
through it!

1898
01:33:29,881 --> 01:33:30,964
[laughing]

1899
01:33:31,047 --> 01:33:32,631
What were you saying,
Gina?

1900
01:33:32,714 --> 01:33:34,297
Wait a minute!

1901
01:33:34,381 --> 01:33:36,089
[Kathy]
Okay, are we ready to go loud?

1902
01:33:36,172 --> 01:33:38,547
-[Gina] Yeah, man.
-[Jane] You wanna go loud?

1903
01:33:38,631 --> 01:33:40,381
[Gina]
One, two, a-one, two...

1904
01:33:40,464 --> 01:33:43,506
♪♪♪

1905
01:33:46,422 --> 01:33:50,130
♪ There's a place for us,
don't look for a sign ♪

1906
01:33:50,214 --> 01:33:51,714
♪ Not on a map ♪

1907
01:33:51,798 --> 01:33:54,172
♪ It's a state of mind ♪

1908
01:33:55,297 --> 01:33:57,381
♪ This is club zero ♪

1909
01:33:59,714 --> 01:34:02,547
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪

1910
01:34:02,631 --> 01:34:05,756
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪

1911
01:34:05,839 --> 01:34:09,923
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say... ♪

1912
01:34:10,005 --> 01:34:13,714
[Charlotte] There was this power
that we all felt,

1913
01:34:13,798 --> 01:34:17,839
of us together
doing what we're doing.

1914
01:34:17,923 --> 01:34:21,297
We showed up as who we were

1915
01:34:21,381 --> 01:34:24,255
and just, against all odds,

1916
01:34:24,339 --> 01:34:26,881
busted through some ceilings.

1917
01:34:39,547 --> 01:34:41,214
I don't know what more
they have to do

1918
01:34:41,297 --> 01:34:43,130
to get in the Rock & Roll
Hall of Fame.

1919
01:34:43,214 --> 01:34:46,589
What the fuck? They're not?

1920
01:34:46,673 --> 01:34:49,422
Come on! Come on!

1921
01:34:49,506 --> 01:34:51,631
They're in my Rock & Roll
Hall of Fame.

1922
01:34:51,714 --> 01:34:56,881
♪♪♪

1923
01:34:58,673 --> 01:35:02,005
♪ There's a place for us,
don't look for a sign ♪

1924
01:35:02,089 --> 01:35:03,964
♪ Not on a map ♪

1925
01:35:04,047 --> 01:35:06,547
♪ It's a state of mind ♪

1926
01:35:07,547 --> 01:35:09,756
♪ This is club zero ♪

1927
01:35:11,631 --> 01:35:14,798
♪ Time's up,
it's the clarion call ♪

1928
01:35:14,881 --> 01:35:19,422
♪ 'Cause zero hour
is upon us all ♪

1929
01:35:19,506 --> 01:35:21,798
♪ Tik-tok, tik-tok ♪

1930
01:35:24,005 --> 01:35:27,297
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪

1931
01:35:27,381 --> 01:35:30,631
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪

1932
01:35:30,714 --> 01:35:35,297
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say ♪

1933
01:35:35,381 --> 01:35:37,506
♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪

1934
01:35:37,589 --> 01:35:40,005
♪ Ready or not, here we are ♪

1935
01:35:40,089 --> 01:35:43,130
♪ Better get out of our way ♪

1936
01:35:43,214 --> 01:35:46,422
♪ Looking for heroes,
we are club zero ♪

1937
01:35:46,506 --> 01:35:48,506
[laughing]

1938
01:35:48,589 --> 01:35:50,756
-I love it.
-[Gina] We did blow in our bras.

1939
01:35:50,839 --> 01:35:52,422
That day we did blow
and gave birth.

1940
01:35:52,506 --> 01:35:54,381
[Jane] Yeah, it was time
to have babies.

1941
01:35:54,464 --> 01:35:55,673
Which one is that?

1942
01:35:55,756 --> 01:35:56,923
She's having her baby.

1943
01:35:57,005 --> 01:35:58,631
[Jane] Why am I always the baby?

1944
01:35:58,714 --> 01:36:00,047
[Kathy]
You were always the baby

1945
01:36:00,130 --> 01:36:03,506
'cause you were the only one
that could fit between our legs.

1946
01:36:04,422 --> 01:36:07,381
♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪

1947
01:36:07,464 --> 01:36:11,297
♪ They may have control
but we're not scared ♪

1948
01:36:12,631 --> 01:36:14,964
♪ Zero fucks given ♪

1949
01:36:17,089 --> 01:36:20,130
♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪

1950
01:36:20,214 --> 01:36:24,172
♪ Heads up, we're the new MVPs
♪

1951
01:36:24,255 --> 01:36:27,047
♪ Of the twenty-first century ♪

1952
01:36:28,881 --> 01:36:32,464
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪

1953
01:36:32,547 --> 01:36:35,714
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪

1954
01:36:35,798 --> 01:36:40,381
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say ♪

1955
01:36:40,464 --> 01:36:42,214
♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪

1956
01:36:42,297 --> 01:36:44,756
♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪

1957
01:36:44,839 --> 01:36:48,339
♪ You better get out
of our way ♪

1958
01:36:48,422 --> 01:36:51,589
♪ We won't stop
until we're done ♪

1959
01:36:51,673 --> 01:36:55,047
♪ Better get out of our way ♪

1960
01:36:55,130 --> 01:36:59,923
♪ Walking like heroes,
we are club zero ♪

1961
01:37:01,255 --> 01:37:06,506
♪♪♪

1962
01:37:18,339 --> 01:37:21,422
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪

1963
01:37:21,506 --> 01:37:24,964
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪

1964
01:37:25,047 --> 01:37:29,631
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say ♪

1965
01:37:29,714 --> 01:37:31,422
♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪

1966
01:37:31,506 --> 01:37:34,297
♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪

1967
01:37:34,381 --> 01:37:37,714
♪ You better get out
of our way ♪

1968
01:37:37,798 --> 01:37:40,798
♪ We won't stop
until we're done ♪

1969
01:37:40,881 --> 01:37:43,881
♪ Better get out of our way ♪

1970
01:37:43,964 --> 01:37:47,172
♪ Looking for heroes,
we are club zero ♪

1971
01:37:47,255 --> 01:37:52,422
♪ Walking like heroes,
we are club zero ♪

1972
01:37:53,547 --> 01:37:54,923
♪ Oh ♪

1973
01:37:56,381 --> 01:37:58,381
♪ Oh ♪

1974
01:37:59,381 --> 01:38:00,964
♪h

1975
01:38:02,172 --> 01:38:03,214
♪h



