WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:33.506 --> 00:00:35.964 We are the first all-girl band 4 00:00:36.047 --> 00:00:37.923 that wrote their own material and played 5 00:00:38.005 --> 00:00:40.881 their own instruments to be really successful. 6 00:00:42.464 --> 00:00:45.506 Alright, this is for you for being so nice. 7 00:01:03.255 --> 00:01:07.255 ♪ I gave up looking for a reason ♪ 8 00:01:08.422 --> 00:01:11.923 ♪ To live with things just the way they were ♪ 9 00:01:13.923 --> 00:01:16.172 ♪ I came around, used to be ♪ 10 00:01:16.255 --> 00:01:18.798 ♪ Easy to get to so they ♪ 11 00:01:18.881 --> 00:01:22.381 ♪ Got to me in just about every way ♪ 12 00:01:22.464 --> 00:01:24.881 ♪ Caught with no cards up your sleeve ♪ 13 00:01:24.964 --> 00:01:27.130 ♪ Not much to choose from ♪ 14 00:01:28.089 --> 00:01:29.547 ♪ Grew up all along ♪ 15 00:01:29.631 --> 00:01:32.047 ♪ Just thinking that you couldn't lose ♪ 16 00:01:34.130 --> 00:01:36.756 ♪ I came around, used to be ♪ 17 00:01:36.839 --> 00:01:39.214 ♪ Easy to get to so they ♪ 18 00:01:39.297 --> 00:01:43.172 ♪ Got to me in just about every way ♪ 19 00:01:44.130 --> 00:01:46.381 ♪ Can't stop the world ♪ 20 00:01:46.464 --> 00:01:50.381 ♪ Can't stop the world, why let it stop you? ♪ 21 00:01:50.464 --> 00:01:53.381 People automatically assumed 22 00:01:53.464 --> 00:01:55.714 that we were probably put together by some guy, 23 00:01:55.798 --> 00:01:58.214 but we did it all ourselves. 24 00:01:58.297 --> 00:01:59.547 Let's go! 25 00:02:08.547 --> 00:02:10.547 We got on stage, 26 00:02:10.631 --> 00:02:13.714 and it happened to be a group of women really kicking ass. 27 00:02:13.798 --> 00:02:15.255 It was great. 28 00:02:15.339 --> 00:02:17.381 One in a million bands 29 00:02:17.464 --> 00:02:19.422 gets to where we got. 30 00:02:19.506 --> 00:02:21.964 America knew who The Go-Go's were. 31 00:02:22.047 --> 00:02:24.339 These are The Go-Go's. 32 00:02:24.422 --> 00:02:26.839 Charlotte Caffey, Gina Schock, 33 00:02:26.923 --> 00:02:29.881 Jane Wiedlin, Kathy Valentine 34 00:02:29.964 --> 00:02:31.798 and Belinda Carlisle. 35 00:02:31.881 --> 00:02:35.422 The greatest all-girl group of all time, The Go-Go's. 36 00:02:35.506 --> 00:02:36.589 The Go-Go's! 37 00:02:36.673 --> 00:02:38.506 - The Go-Go's! 38 00:02:38.589 --> 00:02:40.839 We were really making big strides, 39 00:02:40.923 --> 00:02:42.089 loving what we were doing 40 00:02:42.172 --> 00:02:44.506 and being in that moment of, like, wow! 41 00:02:44.589 --> 00:02:47.422 ♪ Can't stop the world... ♪ 42 00:02:47.506 --> 00:02:50.506 I couldn't walk down the street at that time. 43 00:02:50.589 --> 00:02:52.714 That's how famous The Go-Go's were. 44 00:02:52.798 --> 00:02:54.631 In the course of a year, 45 00:02:54.714 --> 00:02:57.673 we had gone from playing dive bars to Madison Square Garden. 46 00:02:57.756 --> 00:02:59.047 ♪ Can't stop the world ♪ 47 00:02:59.130 --> 00:03:00.673 I was on top of the world, 48 00:03:00.756 --> 00:03:02.047 I felt like we had made it. 49 00:03:16.881 --> 00:03:19.422 There never would have been The Go-Go's 50 00:03:19.506 --> 00:03:22.464 without the punk rock scene in Los Angeles. 51 00:03:22.547 --> 00:03:25.964 Well, you got it! From Hollywood, The Go-Go's! 52 00:03:26.047 --> 00:03:28.047 Happy Saint Patrick's Day. 53 00:03:31.214 --> 00:03:33.339 There's a problem with the monitor here, 54 00:03:33.422 --> 00:03:35.214 and I'm getting shocked. 55 00:03:35.297 --> 00:03:36.339 Sorry. 56 00:03:38.506 --> 00:03:41.964 At the time, there were 50 kids tops 57 00:03:42.047 --> 00:03:44.255 in the L.A. punk scene. 58 00:03:44.339 --> 00:03:46.005 It was D.I.Y. 59 00:03:46.089 --> 00:03:48.339 and if you were terrible you were cooler, 60 00:03:48.422 --> 00:03:50.756 and anybody could do whatever they wanted. 61 00:03:50.839 --> 00:03:52.172 It was total freedom. 62 00:03:52.255 --> 00:03:54.506 ♪ Don't assume that we never think ♪ 63 00:03:54.589 --> 00:03:56.547 ♪ You think you know but you haven't a clue ♪ 64 00:03:56.631 --> 00:03:58.381 -♪ 'Cause we're ♪ -♪ We're ♪ 65 00:03:58.464 --> 00:03:59.923 -♪ Here... -♪ Here ♪ 66 00:04:00.005 --> 00:04:02.089 -♪ Now... -♪ Now ♪ 67 00:04:02.172 --> 00:04:05.798 ♪ We don't need you around ♪ 68 00:04:07.047 --> 00:04:09.839 It was about feeling emotion, anger, rage, 69 00:04:09.923 --> 00:04:12.005 and you got to express it. 70 00:04:12.089 --> 00:04:14.506 And the rawer the better. 71 00:04:17.297 --> 00:04:19.881 ♪ Don't make the mistake of criticizing ♪ 72 00:04:19.964 --> 00:04:21.798 ♪ Don't even bother patronizing ♪ 73 00:04:21.881 --> 00:04:25.464 I was such a punk, it was like my identity. 74 00:04:26.756 --> 00:04:30.589 Being in The Go-Go's meant being more involved in the scene 75 00:04:30.673 --> 00:04:34.923 with all your friends, just a great sense of belonging. 76 00:04:35.005 --> 00:04:37.130 ♪ ...around ♪ 77 00:04:37.214 --> 00:04:39.381 ♪ And we're... ♪ 78 00:04:39.464 --> 00:04:41.839 I was a little bit of an outsider 79 00:04:41.923 --> 00:04:44.297 because I wasn't overtly punk rock. 80 00:04:44.381 --> 00:04:45.881 You wouldn't think so looking at me, 81 00:04:45.964 --> 00:04:48.714 I look really straight, but I have a very twisted mind. 82 00:04:52.798 --> 00:04:55.381 We hated society and our parents, 83 00:04:55.464 --> 00:04:58.047 but we supported each other. 84 00:04:58.130 --> 00:05:00.297 Everyone was welcome, 85 00:05:00.381 --> 00:05:02.589 outcasts, geeks, gays, straights, 86 00:05:02.673 --> 00:05:04.756 people of color, women. 87 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.214 It was inclusive. 88 00:05:07.297 --> 00:05:08.839 -♪ 'Cause we're ♪ -♪ We're ♪ 89 00:05:08.923 --> 00:05:10.130 -♪ Here ♪ -♪ Here ♪ 90 00:05:10.214 --> 00:05:11.589 -♪ Now ♪ -♪ Now ♪ 91 00:05:11.673 --> 00:05:13.756 And that was a great place for me to be, 92 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.506 because I always felt like I didn't fit in. 93 00:05:19.005 --> 00:05:20.464 I kind of have this image 94 00:05:20.547 --> 00:05:22.798 of being this really happy person, and I can be. 95 00:05:22.881 --> 00:05:25.714 But I have this thing in me that's just always there, 96 00:05:25.798 --> 00:05:27.839 like, ugh, urgh. 97 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:32.506 I have a lifelong history of depression. 98 00:05:32.589 --> 00:05:36.005 When I was 15, I tried to kill myself. 99 00:05:39.005 --> 00:05:40.339 Right around that same time 100 00:05:40.422 --> 00:05:42.130 I was looking at Women's Wear Daily 101 00:05:42.214 --> 00:05:45.255 and they had all these photos of the London punk scene. 102 00:05:46.214 --> 00:05:47.881 Oh, my God, it really spoke to me. 103 00:05:47.964 --> 00:05:50.464 I was like, "Ah, I want this!" 104 00:05:50.547 --> 00:05:52.714 So I just started making my own punk clothes, 105 00:05:52.798 --> 00:05:56.089 and one weekend I went to this store on Sunset Strip 106 00:05:56.172 --> 00:05:58.547 that was called Granny Takes a Trip, 107 00:05:58.631 --> 00:06:02.130 and while I was in there I met Pleasant Gehman. 108 00:06:03.714 --> 00:06:06.172 This little girl came in, she had huge eyes. 109 00:06:06.255 --> 00:06:09.089 She looked like an anime action figure. 110 00:06:09.172 --> 00:06:10.297 She had these shirts 111 00:06:10.381 --> 00:06:13.089 that had two zippers sewn in over the boobs, 112 00:06:13.172 --> 00:06:15.798 and so, when you unzipped them, you know, 113 00:06:15.881 --> 00:06:18.964 your bra or your bare boobs would come out. 114 00:06:19.047 --> 00:06:22.005 She told me that there was a scene in Hollywood, 115 00:06:22.089 --> 00:06:23.214 a punk scene, 116 00:06:23.297 --> 00:06:26.005 and she gave me a flyer for this club called The Masque. 117 00:06:32.422 --> 00:06:36.881 In the punk scene, there was just so much energy and anger. 118 00:06:40.130 --> 00:06:43.589 And having suppressed bad feelings my whole life, 119 00:06:43.673 --> 00:06:47.130 the suicide attempt was obviously it trying to come out, 120 00:06:47.214 --> 00:06:48.798 and then, becoming a punk rocker, 121 00:06:48.881 --> 00:06:51.464 I felt was a really positive way for it to come out. 122 00:06:53.172 --> 00:06:56.631 People used to cross the street when they saw me. 123 00:06:56.714 --> 00:06:59.589 I felt powerful for the first time. 124 00:07:01.130 --> 00:07:03.381 I just felt like I had found my home. 125 00:07:05.422 --> 00:07:08.005 The punk scene gave me an outlet to act out 126 00:07:08.089 --> 00:07:12.172 and be the badass that I thought I was. 127 00:07:13.339 --> 00:07:15.464 I'm the oldest of seven kids. 128 00:07:15.547 --> 00:07:18.381 My father left when I was five. 129 00:07:18.464 --> 00:07:21.339 My stepfather was hardcore, 130 00:07:21.422 --> 00:07:23.881 very much an old-school disciplinarian. 131 00:07:23.964 --> 00:07:25.839 We had no money. 132 00:07:25.923 --> 00:07:27.756 I remember growing up and being in school 133 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.881 and always feeling like I was pretending to be something 134 00:07:30.964 --> 00:07:32.839 that I probably wasn't... 135 00:07:32.923 --> 00:07:36.464 I was a real good student, I was a cheerleader. 136 00:07:36.547 --> 00:07:38.506 Does anybody have a cigarette? 137 00:07:38.589 --> 00:07:41.214 ...But then, I discovered the punk scene, 138 00:07:41.297 --> 00:07:45.589 and that opened up a whole new world for me. 139 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.631 Everybody in the L.A. punk rock scene, 140 00:07:49.714 --> 00:07:53.422 it was like there was invisible smoke signals 141 00:07:53.506 --> 00:07:55.130 getting sent out of, like, you know, 142 00:07:55.214 --> 00:07:57.673 "You need to go to this club on that night." 143 00:07:58.964 --> 00:08:02.339 And the Sex Pistols were playing at Winterland in San Francisco 144 00:08:02.422 --> 00:08:04.839 and pretty much everybody in L.A. drove up. 145 00:08:06.714 --> 00:08:09.714 It was really like a religious pilgrimage. 146 00:08:09.798 --> 00:08:12.923 They were just the kings of the original, original punk scene. 147 00:08:13.005 --> 00:08:17.631 ♪ Problem, problem, problem, problem... ♪ 148 00:08:18.798 --> 00:08:21.756 The Sex Pistols gave this, like, slacker performance 149 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.214 that wasn't compelling at all. 150 00:08:25.005 --> 00:08:27.214 Johnny Rotten at the end of the show 151 00:08:27.297 --> 00:08:29.964 said the famous quote of his. 152 00:08:31.464 --> 00:08:34.089 Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? 153 00:08:34.172 --> 00:08:35.798 Good night! 154 00:08:36.631 --> 00:08:38.339 You know, it was kind of like, 155 00:08:38.422 --> 00:08:40.839 "Oh, man, you guys were our heroes" 156 00:08:40.923 --> 00:08:42.089 and they kind of suck. 157 00:08:43.714 --> 00:08:48.631 And it also felt like the first wave of punk was sort of dying. 158 00:08:48.714 --> 00:08:51.881 It was time for some new people to start doing something. 159 00:08:53.047 --> 00:08:55.714 I think that was the weekend I actually got to know Margot, 160 00:08:55.798 --> 00:08:58.422 and then we started talking about forming a band, 161 00:08:58.506 --> 00:08:59.923 a girl band, actually. 162 00:09:00.005 --> 00:09:01.089 Everybody was in a band. 163 00:09:01.172 --> 00:09:03.631 I mean, it was like the cool thing to be in a band 164 00:09:03.714 --> 00:09:05.631 and we were basically the only people left 165 00:09:05.714 --> 00:09:08.756 that weren't in a band, so we decided to do it too. 166 00:09:10.547 --> 00:09:11.798 I met Elissa. 167 00:09:11.881 --> 00:09:15.589 She was one of my high school friend's cousins. 168 00:09:15.673 --> 00:09:17.798 Margot then met Belinda. 169 00:09:17.881 --> 00:09:19.839 The punk scene was so small, 170 00:09:19.923 --> 00:09:21.923 so we all knew each other vaguely. 171 00:09:22.005 --> 00:09:24.547 Thinking about bands like The Shirelles 172 00:09:24.631 --> 00:09:27.589 and The Shangri-Las, it was exciting to think 173 00:09:27.673 --> 00:09:30.631 we could do the new version of that. 174 00:09:30.714 --> 00:09:33.506 But this time, we were going to play instruments. 175 00:09:33.589 --> 00:09:35.714 With one little problem? 176 00:09:35.798 --> 00:09:38.631 That we didn't know how to play instruments. 177 00:09:40.756 --> 00:09:44.005 Well, I wanted to play bass 178 00:09:44.089 --> 00:09:47.631 and I knew I would have to learn by doing. 179 00:09:49.089 --> 00:09:52.714 I didn't have drums, I had to go out and find drums. 180 00:09:54.172 --> 00:09:57.297 You know, I had a couple of weeks of folk guitar lessons 181 00:09:57.381 --> 00:09:59.631 when I was 12, I'll just play guitar. 182 00:10:03.130 --> 00:10:04.589 I certainly thought I could sing. 183 00:10:04.673 --> 00:10:07.547 I thought I sounded like Julie Andrews. But... 184 00:10:07.631 --> 00:10:10.714 ♪ We can do what we want we can say... ♪ 185 00:10:10.798 --> 00:10:12.673 We didn't know what we were doing. 186 00:10:12.756 --> 00:10:14.047 In the punk scene it was like, 187 00:10:14.130 --> 00:10:16.214 "Great, you don't know what you're doing? 188 00:10:16.297 --> 00:10:17.881 Just fucking do it." 189 00:10:20.798 --> 00:10:23.464 We'd sort of been, like, going over different names, 190 00:10:23.547 --> 00:10:25.547 nothing really seemed right. Whatever-- 191 00:10:25.631 --> 00:10:27.047 Was it The Misfits was going to be, 192 00:10:27.130 --> 00:10:29.297 because that's how we sort of felt at the time. 193 00:10:29.381 --> 00:10:32.255 At that time, The Kinks came out with Misfits the album, 194 00:10:32.339 --> 00:10:34.631 we thought, no, everyone will think, you know, 195 00:10:34.714 --> 00:10:35.798 we stole it from them. 196 00:10:35.881 --> 00:10:39.673 So, The Go-Go's seemed to fit us. 197 00:10:42.255 --> 00:10:44.339 I remember doing our first show. 198 00:10:44.422 --> 00:10:46.172 It was at the Masque. 199 00:10:47.589 --> 00:10:49.673 Everyone was excited 200 00:10:49.756 --> 00:10:52.172 when The Go-Go's played at the Masque. 201 00:10:52.255 --> 00:10:53.756 Their set was three songs long 202 00:10:53.839 --> 00:10:56.339 and two of them were the same song. 203 00:10:58.130 --> 00:10:59.964 We only knew those songs, 204 00:11:00.047 --> 00:11:03.005 so it wasn't a matter of having a set list. 205 00:11:03.089 --> 00:11:05.839 We didn't need one. 206 00:11:07.881 --> 00:11:10.214 There's one song about Robert Hilburn 207 00:11:10.297 --> 00:11:12.923 who was a huge music critic at the L.A. Times. 208 00:11:22.714 --> 00:11:24.673 People were either laughing 209 00:11:24.756 --> 00:11:27.464 or completely mortified in horror. 210 00:11:27.547 --> 00:11:29.673 It was a big, fat mess. 211 00:11:29.756 --> 00:11:31.964 I wasn't really intimidated 212 00:11:32.047 --> 00:11:35.297 about being as terrible as we were in the beginning. 213 00:11:35.381 --> 00:11:36.673 That was the whole point, 214 00:11:36.756 --> 00:11:39.130 you can sound horrible and still make music. 215 00:11:40.839 --> 00:11:42.839 I think that deep down inside 216 00:11:42.923 --> 00:11:45.297 we knew that we had something really special, 217 00:11:45.381 --> 00:11:50.631 but we needed someone that actually knew how to do it. 218 00:11:53.589 --> 00:11:56.214 Let's try plugging the amps into the wall first, 219 00:11:56.297 --> 00:11:58.047 like, you know what I mean? 220 00:11:58.130 --> 00:12:02.631 When I was very, very young, like, first and second grade, 221 00:12:02.714 --> 00:12:06.005 I had an Elvis Presley record 222 00:12:06.089 --> 00:12:09.172 and Johann Strauss "Blue Danube Waltz". 223 00:12:09.255 --> 00:12:13.881 I would listen to both of them, like put one on, dance around, 224 00:12:13.964 --> 00:12:16.172 put the other one on, waltz around, yeah. 225 00:12:18.255 --> 00:12:21.005 I started playing piano when I was four years old. 226 00:12:21.923 --> 00:12:24.422 At a very young age, I was moved by music. 227 00:12:24.506 --> 00:12:26.964 I had an ear for music. 228 00:12:28.798 --> 00:12:32.923 I went to Immaculate Heart College, taking classical piano. 229 00:12:35.005 --> 00:12:37.839 I loved it, but it was kind of snotty attitude, 230 00:12:37.923 --> 00:12:41.381 like, some of these students were just like, "Who are you?" 231 00:12:42.881 --> 00:12:46.714 I started going to some of the punk rock shows. 232 00:12:46.798 --> 00:12:49.881 The punk bands just busted me open, 233 00:12:49.964 --> 00:12:52.631 knowing that all this music theory, 234 00:12:52.714 --> 00:12:55.631 rules had to be thrown out the window. 235 00:12:57.255 --> 00:13:00.547 ♪ Don't talk to me ♪ 236 00:13:00.631 --> 00:13:02.005 When I graduated college, 237 00:13:02.089 --> 00:13:05.297 my best friend Joe Ramirez and I started a band. 238 00:13:05.381 --> 00:13:07.422 We named it The Eyes. 239 00:13:07.506 --> 00:13:09.673 It was one of the most freeing things 240 00:13:09.756 --> 00:13:11.839 just to turn up our amps to ten, 241 00:13:11.923 --> 00:13:15.089 bash through and just anything went. 242 00:13:15.172 --> 00:13:17.547 ♪ Don't talk to me, don't look at me ♪ 243 00:13:17.631 --> 00:13:19.923 ♪ Don't talk to me, oh yeah ♪ 244 00:13:20.005 --> 00:13:23.714 "Don't talk to me, don't look at me, don't talk to me..." 245 00:13:23.798 --> 00:13:25.631 That is like a feminist anthem 246 00:13:25.714 --> 00:13:28.089 for women of my generation. 247 00:13:29.297 --> 00:13:32.589 Margot and I went to an Eyes show, 248 00:13:32.673 --> 00:13:34.631 where we thought, "Oh, Charlotte." 249 00:13:34.714 --> 00:13:36.673 ♪ Yeah ♪ 250 00:13:36.756 --> 00:13:38.881 We thought she was perfect. 251 00:13:40.798 --> 00:13:42.089 I'm backstage, 252 00:13:42.172 --> 00:13:45.214 and I see these two sets of legs walking up. 253 00:13:45.297 --> 00:13:48.339 One has spikey heels, 254 00:13:48.422 --> 00:13:52.130 ripped fishnets, a trash bag. 255 00:13:52.214 --> 00:13:53.923 That was Belinda. 256 00:13:54.005 --> 00:13:55.923 She said, "Hi, Charlotte. "You know, 257 00:13:56.005 --> 00:13:58.589 we're starting this all-girl band, do you wanna join?" 258 00:13:58.673 --> 00:14:00.756 And what am I gonna say, no? 259 00:14:04.214 --> 00:14:07.214 I was totally intimidated by them 260 00:14:07.297 --> 00:14:08.964 because Jane and Belinda and Margot, 261 00:14:09.047 --> 00:14:12.756 they're all like punks and they're asking me, 262 00:14:12.839 --> 00:14:16.673 like the dork of all time, to, like, join their band. 263 00:14:16.756 --> 00:14:19.547 So, I felt kind of special, I guess. 264 00:14:23.047 --> 00:14:25.631 When they asked, "Hey, do you play lead guitar?" 265 00:14:25.714 --> 00:14:27.631 I lied. 266 00:14:27.714 --> 00:14:30.047 I figured I played bass so, you know, 267 00:14:30.130 --> 00:14:32.506 "Yeah, it's a couple more strings, it'll be okay." 268 00:14:37.506 --> 00:14:41.506 We started rehearsing, 269 00:14:41.589 --> 00:14:46.673 but, you know, we were pretty crappy in the beginning. 270 00:14:46.756 --> 00:14:48.589 We really didn't sound that great. 271 00:14:50.422 --> 00:14:53.839 It was pretty screechy. 272 00:14:53.923 --> 00:14:57.005 I remember going into The Masque one Saturday afternoon, 273 00:14:57.089 --> 00:14:58.881 hearing some music and thinking, 274 00:14:58.964 --> 00:15:00.964 "Oh, who's rehearsing down here today?" 275 00:15:01.047 --> 00:15:03.631 And then, opening a door and seeing Belinda on stage 276 00:15:03.714 --> 00:15:05.464 holding a mic kind of awkwardly. 277 00:15:06.422 --> 00:15:09.005 I just thought, "Oh, God, that's so great, 278 00:15:09.089 --> 00:15:11.923 women pulling together to achieve something," 279 00:15:12.005 --> 00:15:16.381 and I wanted to support that cause and be part of it. 280 00:15:16.464 --> 00:15:19.214 I love communities of women. 281 00:15:19.297 --> 00:15:23.422 This band caught my interest for that reason. 282 00:15:26.005 --> 00:15:28.881 This song's called "Fashion Seekers." 283 00:15:39.130 --> 00:15:43.964 ♪ Bland ideas in a borrowed head ♪ 284 00:15:44.047 --> 00:15:46.839 We saw no reason why we couldn't be 285 00:15:46.923 --> 00:15:49.214 just as good as the boys or men. 286 00:15:49.297 --> 00:15:53.047 ♪ They'll suck the shirt right off of your back ♪ 287 00:15:53.130 --> 00:15:56.297 We weren't going to be anything but a great band. 288 00:16:00.130 --> 00:16:02.422 They were really on the fast track 289 00:16:02.506 --> 00:16:04.172 and they wanted to get going. 290 00:16:04.255 --> 00:16:07.756 And so, they weren't going to let anything stand in their way. 291 00:16:10.339 --> 00:16:12.881 Elissa was very, very eccentric. 292 00:16:14.005 --> 00:16:16.673 I don't know if she was shy or an introvert, 293 00:16:16.756 --> 00:16:19.297 but she was never really part of the gang. 294 00:16:19.381 --> 00:16:21.881 She always held herself apart. 295 00:16:21.964 --> 00:16:25.422 I was coming from two different worlds. 296 00:16:25.506 --> 00:16:27.756 I had to answer to my employer 297 00:16:27.839 --> 00:16:30.756 and I had to answer to the band. 298 00:16:30.839 --> 00:16:34.047 And they wanted me to quit my job, the girls, 299 00:16:34.130 --> 00:16:36.506 and be more dedicated. 300 00:16:36.589 --> 00:16:41.172 I stuck my toe in the water, but I never dove in all the way. 301 00:16:41.255 --> 00:16:43.923 We definitely needed to bring somebody in 302 00:16:44.005 --> 00:16:46.047 that wanted to be there. 303 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:48.756 I happened to meet the girls at a party one night, 304 00:16:48.839 --> 00:16:51.422 and um... that's how it started, I invited 'em over for-- 305 00:16:51.506 --> 00:16:54.214 You know, they said, "Oh, we're looking for a drummer." 306 00:16:54.297 --> 00:16:56.255 "Oh, we're looking for a drummer." 307 00:16:56.339 --> 00:16:59.005 And I said, "Great. I'll try out for the band." 308 00:16:59.089 --> 00:17:00.756 ♪ One, two, three, four ♪ 309 00:17:03.547 --> 00:17:06.297 The amps are set up, they bring their guitars, plug in, 310 00:17:06.381 --> 00:17:09.339 we play like three songs, and it was like, done deal. 311 00:17:09.422 --> 00:17:11.130 ♪ I buy you cologne ♪ 312 00:17:11.214 --> 00:17:12.631 Holy shit! 313 00:17:12.714 --> 00:17:15.172 I don't even know how to describe the difference. 314 00:17:15.255 --> 00:17:18.714 It was really, like, ta-da! 315 00:17:19.714 --> 00:17:21.798 ♪ I need promises... ♪ 316 00:17:21.881 --> 00:17:25.464 The next thing I know they found this other drummer. 317 00:17:25.547 --> 00:17:28.464 I was very upset and hurt. 318 00:17:28.547 --> 00:17:32.214 When you kick people out of bands, it's fucking tough. 319 00:17:32.297 --> 00:17:35.089 But at the time, these things just seemed necessary 320 00:17:35.172 --> 00:17:37.297 and they seemed for the good of the band. 321 00:17:37.381 --> 00:17:40.714 When she was 13 she would come home from school, 322 00:17:40.798 --> 00:17:42.130 go up into the front bedroom, 323 00:17:42.214 --> 00:17:45.881 put the earphones on and bang on the drums. 324 00:17:45.964 --> 00:17:49.172 A lot of girls weren't playing drums back then and so, 325 00:17:49.255 --> 00:17:51.255 I got in a band right away. 326 00:17:51.339 --> 00:17:54.339 We were Baltimore's first new wave punk band. 327 00:17:54.422 --> 00:17:55.631 We had a lot of fun, 328 00:17:55.714 --> 00:17:58.589 but at that point I was like, "I want to play in arenas, 329 00:17:58.673 --> 00:18:01.464 I don't want to stay playing in clubs my whole life." 330 00:18:03.255 --> 00:18:05.339 When I left Baltimore I told everybody, 331 00:18:05.422 --> 00:18:07.964 "The next time you see me, I'm gonna be a rock star." 332 00:18:08.047 --> 00:18:11.214 I drove across country with a dream and a camera. 333 00:18:11.297 --> 00:18:13.464 I was, like, always taking pictures. 334 00:18:16.964 --> 00:18:19.631 I had $2000, and two grams of coke. 335 00:18:22.130 --> 00:18:25.214 I remember the first time I met Gina, 336 00:18:25.297 --> 00:18:28.547 she had this frizzy blonde hair and she was wearing overalls. 337 00:18:28.631 --> 00:18:31.297 She looked crazy, and I was like, "I'm going to fix you." 338 00:18:31.381 --> 00:18:34.339 She needed a little bit of, you know, punking up. 339 00:18:35.631 --> 00:18:39.547 So, we cut her hair, dyed it black and she was ready. 340 00:18:41.381 --> 00:18:44.172 Then, I was into taking just Polaroids. 341 00:18:46.214 --> 00:18:49.214 The punk scene allowed you to be whoever you wanted to be, 342 00:18:49.297 --> 00:18:51.881 play the way you wanted to play and you fit in. 343 00:18:52.005 --> 00:18:53.255 You were accepted. 344 00:18:55.506 --> 00:18:58.923 Being in that setting made me feel safe. 345 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:02.923 And it just allowed us a lot more freedom 346 00:19:03.005 --> 00:19:06.381 to do what we wanted to do. 347 00:19:06.464 --> 00:19:11.255 It's like a dream, only you're really living it. 348 00:19:13.798 --> 00:19:17.339 Jane was just so cute and sweet and bubbly 349 00:19:17.422 --> 00:19:19.130 and her little voice. 350 00:19:19.214 --> 00:19:22.172 We both had crushes on each other, I guess you could say, 351 00:19:22.255 --> 00:19:24.506 but we were girlfriends for a while. 352 00:19:25.673 --> 00:19:27.464 She was the boss in the relationship, 353 00:19:27.547 --> 00:19:31.339 I was the new kid in town and it made me feel comfortable. 354 00:19:33.506 --> 00:19:35.547 Jane broke up with me. 355 00:19:41.089 --> 00:19:44.130 It wasn't like either one of us were heartbroken or anything. 356 00:19:44.214 --> 00:19:47.506 You think something like that's going to fuck with the band? 357 00:19:47.589 --> 00:19:48.589 No way. 358 00:19:48.673 --> 00:19:51.964 ♪ One, two, G-O, G-O... ♪ 359 00:19:52.047 --> 00:19:54.005 What Gina brought, 360 00:19:54.089 --> 00:19:55.881 besides being a really amazing drummer, 361 00:19:55.964 --> 00:19:57.756 is that she made us work hard. 362 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:01.422 She said, "You guys have to rehearse every single night." 363 00:20:01.506 --> 00:20:03.923 And we're just like, "What are you talking about?" 364 00:20:04.005 --> 00:20:06.506 Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse, 365 00:20:06.589 --> 00:20:08.464 it only makes you tighter. 366 00:20:08.547 --> 00:20:11.756 I mean, I was determined to whip them into shape. 367 00:20:14.214 --> 00:20:17.255 Because I felt there was something magical there, 368 00:20:17.339 --> 00:20:19.172 you just needed to push it more. 369 00:20:19.255 --> 00:20:21.339 You needed to get the girls to be more focused 370 00:20:21.422 --> 00:20:23.756 and more serious about what they're doing. 371 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:25.214 She was right. 372 00:20:25.297 --> 00:20:29.589 We improved and it pushed us to another level. 373 00:20:29.673 --> 00:20:32.130 And I was on fire! 374 00:20:35.089 --> 00:20:39.255 I was sitting at home, it was about midnight, 375 00:20:39.339 --> 00:20:41.339 I was watching The Twilight Zone. 376 00:20:41.422 --> 00:20:43.506 You're flying to a new planet, 377 00:20:43.589 --> 00:20:47.255 a planet of light, of darkness and the in-between. 378 00:20:48.673 --> 00:20:50.381 I wanted to write a song 379 00:20:50.464 --> 00:20:53.172 and I was listening to the music all day long. 380 00:20:53.255 --> 00:20:55.422 I really wanted to write something with a beat. 381 00:20:55.506 --> 00:20:57.714 I was hearing something in my mind. 382 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:02.130 I was just sitting there minding my own business 383 00:21:02.214 --> 00:21:04.047 and all of a sudden this whole melody, 384 00:21:04.130 --> 00:21:08.547 this whole idea came to my mind and I was like, "Oh, shit." 385 00:21:09.464 --> 00:21:11.381 I ran and got my little cassette player. 386 00:21:13.964 --> 00:21:15.047 And I wrote the song, 387 00:21:15.130 --> 00:21:18.464 it was like five minutes, it just all came out. 388 00:21:18.547 --> 00:21:21.130 The zone of writing, I don't know what happens, 389 00:21:21.214 --> 00:21:22.881 but I can get to that place and boom, 390 00:21:22.964 --> 00:21:25.547 just these ideas just start flowing and it's like, 391 00:21:25.631 --> 00:21:28.547 it's pretty... pretty phenomenal when it happens. 392 00:21:31.255 --> 00:21:35.214 Back then, I didn't have a sense of myself. 393 00:21:36.172 --> 00:21:38.047 Songwriting was so important to me, 394 00:21:38.130 --> 00:21:41.255 it was my identity, my safety zone. 395 00:21:43.589 --> 00:21:46.047 And so, with "We Got The Beat" I was terrified. 396 00:21:46.130 --> 00:21:47.214 I was thinking, "Man, 397 00:21:47.297 --> 00:21:49.756 these girls are going to throw me out of this band" 398 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:51.881 because it was a pop song. 399 00:21:52.923 --> 00:21:55.631 ♪ See the people walking down the street ♪ 400 00:21:55.714 --> 00:21:58.005 I don't remember her being nervous, 401 00:21:58.089 --> 00:22:00.422 I just remember thinking it was an amazing song. 402 00:22:00.506 --> 00:22:03.297 I mean, it's just so obvious. 403 00:22:03.381 --> 00:22:05.130 We all loved it right away. 404 00:22:05.214 --> 00:22:07.923 ♪ They got the beat, they got the beat ♪ 405 00:22:08.005 --> 00:22:10.506 ♪ They got the beat ♪ 406 00:22:11.881 --> 00:22:14.547 When she started playing that eighth-note riff, 407 00:22:14.631 --> 00:22:18.464 the pattern that I play on the drums just poured out of me. 408 00:22:18.547 --> 00:22:21.923 It was "do-do da-da do-do da-da." 409 00:22:22.881 --> 00:22:24.464 I felt like we had arrived. 410 00:22:24.547 --> 00:22:28.464 It was definitely another step up that ladder. 411 00:22:28.547 --> 00:22:30.923 Fortunately, they just loved it. 412 00:22:37.714 --> 00:22:40.881 And I believe that changed the trajectory of the band. 413 00:22:50.714 --> 00:22:53.464 ♪ Go-Go music really makes us dance ♪ 414 00:22:53.547 --> 00:22:55.631 We were rough sounding when we played live, 415 00:22:55.714 --> 00:22:59.214 but we had these songs that were just coming together. 416 00:22:59.297 --> 00:23:00.881 ♪ That's when we fall in line ♪ 417 00:23:00.964 --> 00:23:04.506 Just doing those little shows, it was a really cool time. 418 00:23:04.589 --> 00:23:07.464 We were the house band at The Whisky. 419 00:23:08.464 --> 00:23:10.547 So, we would open up for whatever bands 420 00:23:10.631 --> 00:23:11.839 would come into town. 421 00:23:11.923 --> 00:23:15.005 Madness came into town and they were English, you know, 422 00:23:15.089 --> 00:23:16.339 we loved that. 423 00:23:16.422 --> 00:23:19.005 All-girl band writing their own tunes? 424 00:23:19.089 --> 00:23:20.839 I mean, outrageous. 425 00:23:20.923 --> 00:23:24.172 Yeah, we got it! 426 00:23:24.255 --> 00:23:26.214 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 427 00:23:26.297 --> 00:23:28.005 Come on, don't be too cool. 428 00:23:28.089 --> 00:23:29.923 They thought we were great 429 00:23:30.005 --> 00:23:32.839 and they went back and spread the word about The Go-Go's. 430 00:23:32.923 --> 00:23:37.255 And then, The Specials came and we opened for them. 431 00:23:37.339 --> 00:23:40.130 One of the best things that happened for The Go-Go's 432 00:23:40.214 --> 00:23:41.631 was meeting us, you know, 433 00:23:41.714 --> 00:23:45.589 and I would say probably one of the best thing happened to us 434 00:23:45.673 --> 00:23:47.214 was meeting The Go-Go's. 435 00:23:50.464 --> 00:23:54.923 They were young, they were fresh, they were beautiful. 436 00:23:55.005 --> 00:23:58.464 We are a bunch of misfits, of course, that's why it works! 437 00:23:58.547 --> 00:24:00.881 Their manager started talking with Ginger 438 00:24:00.964 --> 00:24:02.756 about how to bring us over to England 439 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.964 so we could tour with both bands. 440 00:24:06.047 --> 00:24:08.756 Somebody from The Specials came to me and said, 441 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.047 "We're planning a seaside tour in England. 442 00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:14.881 Do you think your band might be able to get over there?" 443 00:24:14.964 --> 00:24:16.464 And I said, "Yes!" 444 00:24:17.506 --> 00:24:19.881 I did a lot of pawning of jewelry 445 00:24:19.964 --> 00:24:21.547 and selling a lot of things 446 00:24:21.631 --> 00:24:24.631 to be able to get the girls over on that trip. 447 00:24:25.506 --> 00:24:27.172 She sold everything. 448 00:24:27.255 --> 00:24:30.339 Her car, she put her whole life on sale 449 00:24:30.422 --> 00:24:32.673 basically to fund us to get to London. 450 00:24:34.547 --> 00:24:37.255 My dad was in the entertainment industry, 451 00:24:37.339 --> 00:24:40.673 but he was not behind me being in this band. 452 00:24:41.464 --> 00:24:43.631 He said, "Hey, there's an opening 453 00:24:43.714 --> 00:24:46.756 at the music library at Paramount." 454 00:24:47.881 --> 00:24:51.464 I remember it was like a really good-paying job, 455 00:24:51.547 --> 00:24:54.631 and I just said to him, I said, "I can't," 456 00:24:54.714 --> 00:24:57.422 because inside of me I had to leave. 457 00:24:57.506 --> 00:24:59.839 I had to do this, I had to do it. 458 00:25:02.798 --> 00:25:05.255 ♪ Seen your pictures in the 'zines ♪ 459 00:25:05.339 --> 00:25:07.089 ♪ And you look real good ♪ 460 00:25:07.172 --> 00:25:09.464 ♪ Pale blank faces, black and white keen ♪ 461 00:25:09.547 --> 00:25:11.798 ♪ London boys, cigarette lean ♪ 462 00:25:11.881 --> 00:25:13.714 ♪ London boys, wish you were here ♪ 463 00:25:13.798 --> 00:25:16.673 Because the punk rock scene had started in England, 464 00:25:16.756 --> 00:25:18.881 all the bands that we worshipped were English. 465 00:25:18.964 --> 00:25:21.381 I mean, England was always, for us, 466 00:25:21.464 --> 00:25:24.547 ground zero of great rock music. 467 00:25:24.631 --> 00:25:26.714 It was like Mecca! 468 00:25:29.547 --> 00:25:31.547 When The Go-Go's come over here, 469 00:25:31.631 --> 00:25:34.714 walking around the city is just really, really bleak. 470 00:25:34.798 --> 00:25:38.339 Shite, absolutely grim, grey. 471 00:25:38.422 --> 00:25:41.631 It wasn't a very nice place to be. 472 00:25:41.714 --> 00:25:45.464 There seemed to be an air of something's about to go off. 473 00:25:45.547 --> 00:25:49.839 ♪ We're living in gangster times ♪ 474 00:25:50.798 --> 00:25:52.547 Don't call me Scarface! 475 00:25:52.631 --> 00:25:56.881 The Specials and Madness were both ska bands 476 00:25:56.964 --> 00:25:59.214 and they were stars. 477 00:25:59.297 --> 00:26:02.547 We felt like having these opening slots with two bands 478 00:26:02.631 --> 00:26:04.506 that were at the top of their game 479 00:26:04.589 --> 00:26:06.964 and were very, very successful there, 480 00:26:07.047 --> 00:26:09.214 that, I mean, how could we fail? 481 00:26:12.923 --> 00:26:16.172 It was our first time touring in a tour bus 482 00:26:16.255 --> 00:26:17.756 and playing every night. 483 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.923 ♪ The street lights are shining bright ♪ 484 00:26:22.005 --> 00:26:25.005 ♪ The billboards are shedding their light ♪ 485 00:26:26.589 --> 00:26:29.214 ♪ My crowd's hanging around ♪ 486 00:26:29.297 --> 00:26:31.255 We were being spit at, 487 00:26:31.339 --> 00:26:33.881 stuff thrown at us every single night. 488 00:26:35.089 --> 00:26:38.047 Ska music attracted a bunch of the white nationalists, 489 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:41.255 they called themselves the National Front in England. 490 00:26:41.339 --> 00:26:43.506 And they hated us! 491 00:26:43.589 --> 00:26:45.589 First of all, we were not ska, 492 00:26:45.673 --> 00:26:48.547 so what the hell were we doing opening for these ska bands? 493 00:26:48.631 --> 00:26:50.798 Second of all, we we're Americans. 494 00:26:50.881 --> 00:26:54.714 And third of all, maybe worst of all, we were chicks. 495 00:26:57.631 --> 00:26:59.172 No, we don't do that... 496 00:27:00.589 --> 00:27:03.214 You know, here are these five little girls 497 00:27:03.297 --> 00:27:04.422 from southern California, 498 00:27:04.506 --> 00:27:07.964 get up on stage and play to these scary skinheads. 499 00:27:08.047 --> 00:27:09.881 It was frightening. 500 00:27:09.964 --> 00:27:13.089 One venue, a fella was standing people in a line 501 00:27:13.172 --> 00:27:16.714 with a razor, and another fella with a hammer. 502 00:27:19.547 --> 00:27:21.589 The tours were not going at all 503 00:27:21.673 --> 00:27:24.422 like we thought they were going to go. 504 00:27:24.506 --> 00:27:25.756 But at the same time, 505 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:27.923 we were also having the time of our lives. 506 00:27:28.964 --> 00:27:31.005 There was like a lot of romances going on 507 00:27:31.089 --> 00:27:32.422 between the band members. 508 00:27:32.506 --> 00:27:35.381 But it was good 'cause we all had boyfriends in like, Madness 509 00:27:35.464 --> 00:27:39.047 or The Specials to console us when we got off stage. 510 00:27:39.130 --> 00:27:41.339 Gina is... I love her. 511 00:27:41.422 --> 00:27:43.798 "I just didn't know how to come and approach you." 512 00:27:43.881 --> 00:27:45.589 I should've asked you to marry me 513 00:27:45.673 --> 00:27:47.631 and you probably would've said no, 514 00:27:47.714 --> 00:27:49.339 but I'd have felt better that I asked. 515 00:27:49.422 --> 00:27:52.005 We had such a good laugh, oh, she's lovely she is. 516 00:27:54.673 --> 00:27:57.964 I met Terry. He was in The Specials. 517 00:27:58.047 --> 00:28:00.381 We were very attracted to each other. 518 00:28:00.464 --> 00:28:02.673 We spent a lot of time together on the tour 519 00:28:02.756 --> 00:28:04.631 and it was kind of sort of a romance, 520 00:28:04.714 --> 00:28:07.005 but, I mean, he had a girlfriend, and supposedly, 521 00:28:07.089 --> 00:28:09.589 she was a fiancée and they were going to get married. 522 00:28:09.673 --> 00:28:12.047 And I don't know what I was thinking. 523 00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:15.714 You know, I just thought it was this big, important romance. 524 00:28:19.631 --> 00:28:20.673 Behind the scenes, 525 00:28:20.756 --> 00:28:23.297 I was bringing their cassette tapes around. 526 00:28:23.381 --> 00:28:25.714 Stiff Records might have been a small label, 527 00:28:25.798 --> 00:28:28.381 but they had a group of dedicated people. 528 00:28:28.464 --> 00:28:30.714 I think Ginger asked us 529 00:28:30.798 --> 00:28:33.339 whether we would like to sign them, 530 00:28:33.422 --> 00:28:35.881 but I thought an American punk girl band 531 00:28:36.005 --> 00:28:38.255 who are objecting to being spit at, 532 00:28:38.339 --> 00:28:41.464 I don't know that it's going to really work. 533 00:28:41.547 --> 00:28:44.714 But I remember seeing "We've Got the Beat" 534 00:28:44.798 --> 00:28:46.214 as a potential single, 535 00:28:46.297 --> 00:28:51.214 which was my talent to find the door opener. 536 00:28:51.297 --> 00:28:53.339 I tried to publish the song 537 00:28:53.422 --> 00:28:55.255 'cause I could see that it would do well. 538 00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:58.756 They were really pressuring about the publishing, 539 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:00.172 and I had been told 540 00:29:00.255 --> 00:29:02.339 that that was something you don't give up. 541 00:29:02.422 --> 00:29:06.673 Ginger, I think, was a bit more knowledgeable 542 00:29:06.756 --> 00:29:09.506 about the idea of hold onto what you've got. 543 00:29:09.589 --> 00:29:11.673 Thank dog she knew 544 00:29:11.756 --> 00:29:13.923 an artist needs to keep their publishing, 545 00:29:14.005 --> 00:29:17.673 because really it's one of the only ways to make money, 546 00:29:17.756 --> 00:29:21.714 and it's very valuable and it's valuable for a lifetime. 547 00:29:21.798 --> 00:29:23.839 Well, I stuck to my guns 548 00:29:23.923 --> 00:29:27.422 and signed this one single deal with Stiff Records. 549 00:29:32.297 --> 00:29:36.214 "Friday, June the 6th in Bridlington. 550 00:29:36.297 --> 00:29:40.798 "Tonight was okay, the audience were rude but we played fair. 551 00:29:40.881 --> 00:29:43.255 "Bridlington was pretty shitty. 552 00:29:43.339 --> 00:29:46.714 Oh, well, I guess we'll try harder". 553 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.047 We were just determined, like, 554 00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:52.005 "We're gonna show those fuckers." 555 00:29:52.089 --> 00:29:53.673 Every night, we'd get on stage 556 00:29:53.756 --> 00:29:56.798 and we would be so belligerent with our playing, 557 00:29:56.881 --> 00:30:00.589 and just being even more of who we were. 558 00:30:00.673 --> 00:30:03.506 ♪ And you're the one to blame ♪ 559 00:30:03.589 --> 00:30:05.839 ♪ I used to know my name ♪ 560 00:30:05.923 --> 00:30:09.673 ♪ But I've lost control of the game ♪ 561 00:30:11.005 --> 00:30:13.422 ♪ 'Cause even though I set the rules ♪ 562 00:30:13.506 --> 00:30:16.047 ♪ You've got me acting like a fool ♪ 563 00:30:16.130 --> 00:30:18.964 They were really wild, crazy audiences, 564 00:30:19.047 --> 00:30:21.130 but we made fans, as well. 565 00:30:21.214 --> 00:30:22.798 ♪ Lust to love ♪ 566 00:30:22.881 --> 00:30:25.130 ♪ Was the last thing I was dreaming of ♪ 567 00:30:25.214 --> 00:30:27.589 ♪ And now all I want is just to love ♪ 568 00:30:27.673 --> 00:30:31.005 ♪ Lust turned to love ♪ 569 00:30:31.089 --> 00:30:34.214 They're grew, they proved themselves, 570 00:30:34.297 --> 00:30:36.839 and for The Go-Go's to pick themselves from L.A. 571 00:30:36.923 --> 00:30:38.714 and come to London, you know, 572 00:30:38.798 --> 00:30:41.547 wow, respect to them girls, man, you know. 573 00:30:42.881 --> 00:30:45.130 Their musicianship compared to us 574 00:30:45.214 --> 00:30:46.631 was second to none. 575 00:30:46.714 --> 00:30:50.130 They taught me a thing or two. 576 00:30:51.214 --> 00:30:52.339 ♪ Lust to love ♪ 577 00:30:52.422 --> 00:30:53.923 There was nothing much 578 00:30:54.005 --> 00:30:56.130 that we couldn't handle at that point. 579 00:30:56.214 --> 00:30:57.631 ♪ Just to love ♪ 580 00:30:57.714 --> 00:31:00.714 ♪ Lust turned to love ♪ 581 00:31:00.798 --> 00:31:03.047 ♪ Lust to love ♪ 582 00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:05.964 It was us against the world, 583 00:31:06.047 --> 00:31:10.130 and I think we were ready to take it to the next level. 584 00:31:14.214 --> 00:31:18.464 Our Stiff Records single was the key that unlocked the door. 585 00:31:18.547 --> 00:31:22.964 People were able to buy the single in Los Angeles. 586 00:31:24.673 --> 00:31:28.964 KROQ-AM in Burbank and KROQ-FM in Pasadena, 587 00:31:29.047 --> 00:31:31.047 we're live on the rocks. 588 00:31:31.130 --> 00:31:33.881 Okay, here's The Go-Go's, "We Got The Beat." 589 00:31:33.964 --> 00:31:35.756 When we did come back, 590 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.506 it was like the triumphant return of the home girls, 591 00:31:38.589 --> 00:31:40.047 The Go-Go's! 592 00:31:40.130 --> 00:31:42.381 Everyone thought we were huge stars in England 593 00:31:42.464 --> 00:31:45.339 and we were not telling them anything different. 594 00:31:45.422 --> 00:31:47.673 I remember doing our first show 595 00:31:47.756 --> 00:31:50.589 after we got back at the Starwood. 596 00:31:50.673 --> 00:31:53.673 There were kids wrapped around the block to get in to see us. 597 00:31:53.756 --> 00:31:55.631 We were like, "Whoa, what happened?" 598 00:31:55.714 --> 00:31:57.589 And I guess our strategy worked. 599 00:32:06.464 --> 00:32:10.381 I was in the Starwood one night and The Go-Go's were playing, 600 00:32:10.464 --> 00:32:12.547 and they had been in England. 601 00:32:12.631 --> 00:32:15.964 ♪ Go-Go music really makes us dance ♪ 602 00:32:16.047 --> 00:32:19.589 It was packed and everyone was going crazy. 603 00:32:19.673 --> 00:32:22.214 That's when they got more of my attention. 604 00:32:22.297 --> 00:32:24.422 I thought, "Okay, they're going places." 605 00:32:24.506 --> 00:32:27.506 ♪ 'Cause we got the beat, we got the beat ♪ 606 00:32:27.589 --> 00:32:29.839 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 607 00:32:29.923 --> 00:32:33.381 ♪ Yeah, we got it ♪ 608 00:32:33.464 --> 00:32:35.214 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 609 00:32:35.297 --> 00:32:38.255 The difference from before that tour and after the tour 610 00:32:38.339 --> 00:32:40.130 was just stunning. 611 00:32:40.214 --> 00:32:41.547 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 612 00:32:41.631 --> 00:32:44.214 I was like, "Oh, my God, this is going to be huge." 613 00:32:44.297 --> 00:32:46.339 -♪ We got the beat ♪ -♪ We got the beat ♪ 614 00:32:46.422 --> 00:32:48.255 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 615 00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:50.130 -♪ We got the beat ♪ -♪ We got the beat ♪ 616 00:32:50.214 --> 00:32:52.089 -♪ We got the beat ♪ -♪ We got the beat ♪ 617 00:32:52.172 --> 00:32:54.381 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 618 00:32:56.381 --> 00:32:58.756 People would freak out when we played. 619 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:00.089 It was great. 620 00:33:00.172 --> 00:33:03.881 I mean, we felt like we were at the top of our game, 621 00:33:03.964 --> 00:33:06.047 and yet we couldn't get anywhere with it. 622 00:33:12.297 --> 00:33:14.673 I had a file folder of rejection letters 623 00:33:14.756 --> 00:33:16.422 from record labels in Los Angeles. 624 00:33:16.506 --> 00:33:20.464 "Thanks, but you know, all-girl bands just don't sell records." 625 00:33:21.381 --> 00:33:23.422 They wouldn't sign us we were told 626 00:33:23.506 --> 00:33:26.297 because we were girls, and there'd been no predecessor 627 00:33:26.381 --> 00:33:27.756 that had been that successful. 628 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:29.297 There'd been The Runaways, 629 00:33:29.381 --> 00:33:33.631 but we put ourselves together, we had no Svengali. 630 00:33:33.714 --> 00:33:35.255 It was ridiculous. 631 00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:38.756 Okay, we were girls, but look at what we're doing. 632 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.130 You know, close your eyes and listen. 633 00:33:41.214 --> 00:33:44.297 ♪ I know a cat who can really do the cool jerk ♪ 634 00:33:44.381 --> 00:33:46.589 Through the years I've been asked, 635 00:33:46.673 --> 00:33:48.381 "Were you feminists?" 636 00:33:48.464 --> 00:33:52.589 We were, I realize it now, because of our attitudes, 637 00:33:52.673 --> 00:33:55.381 but we weren't, "We're going to do this against the guys 638 00:33:55.464 --> 00:33:57.881 and you know, fuck them," that kind of thing. 639 00:33:57.964 --> 00:33:59.130 We weren't like that at all. 640 00:33:59.214 --> 00:34:01.172 ♪ When they see me walking down the street ♪ 641 00:34:01.255 --> 00:34:02.839 We thought anything was possible, 642 00:34:02.923 --> 00:34:05.089 including succeeding in that industry 643 00:34:05.172 --> 00:34:06.798 that was run by men. 644 00:34:06.881 --> 00:34:10.673 ♪ They know I'm the queen of the cool jerk ♪ 645 00:34:10.756 --> 00:34:12.381 ♪ Oh cool jerk ♪ 646 00:34:12.464 --> 00:34:15.172 Knowing about being a woman in a band 647 00:34:15.255 --> 00:34:18.339 and how many obstacles they'd had to face, 648 00:34:18.422 --> 00:34:22.172 that the response isn't, "I'm going to quit." 649 00:34:22.255 --> 00:34:23.547 Bring it down! 650 00:34:23.631 --> 00:34:26.422 Whooooo! 651 00:34:26.506 --> 00:34:29.714 It's, "Thank you, assholes, for telling me I can't do this. 652 00:34:29.798 --> 00:34:31.089 Thanks for the inspiration, 653 00:34:31.172 --> 00:34:33.297 now watch me get my next hit single." 654 00:34:40.089 --> 00:34:42.714 After we got home from England, 655 00:34:42.798 --> 00:34:45.923 I would move back and forth from my parents' all the time 656 00:34:46.005 --> 00:34:48.923 because I'd run out of money. 657 00:34:49.005 --> 00:34:51.172 Terry stayed in touch. 658 00:34:51.255 --> 00:34:53.547 He would send me letters, and in one letter 659 00:34:53.631 --> 00:34:56.547 he talked about how he dreamed of having his own band. 660 00:34:56.631 --> 00:34:58.214 and he sent me a bunch of lyrics. 661 00:34:58.297 --> 00:35:01.839 And he said, "I'm going to write these songs." 662 00:35:12.089 --> 00:35:15.964 I saw the lyrical beginning to "Our Lips Are Sealed." 663 00:35:31.297 --> 00:35:33.339 And even though I'd gotten a little bit lazy 664 00:35:33.422 --> 00:35:36.297 about writing music because Charlotte was so good at it, 665 00:35:36.381 --> 00:35:38.798 I figured, why should I bother, I'll just do lyrics. 666 00:35:38.881 --> 00:35:41.839 But this time, I actually went back to writing music. 667 00:35:56.422 --> 00:35:58.339 I just thought it was such a good song. 668 00:35:58.422 --> 00:35:59.506 I was so in love with it. 669 00:35:59.589 --> 00:36:01.839 I didn't show it to the band for weeks and weeks 670 00:36:01.923 --> 00:36:04.214 'cause I was so afraid if they didn't like it, 671 00:36:04.297 --> 00:36:06.381 what was I gonna do? I was gonna... die. 672 00:36:06.464 --> 00:36:09.923 I remember hearing that song for the first time. 673 00:36:10.005 --> 00:36:11.756 I was completely blown away with it. 674 00:36:11.839 --> 00:36:13.422 ♪ No secrets to reveal ♪ 675 00:36:13.506 --> 00:36:16.631 Because of Jane's not being a trained musician and writer, 676 00:36:16.714 --> 00:36:19.297 the chord progression in that song is so unusual. 677 00:36:19.381 --> 00:36:21.297 ♪ ...people play ♪ 678 00:36:21.381 --> 00:36:23.297 It really got your attention. 679 00:36:23.381 --> 00:36:25.839 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 680 00:36:25.923 --> 00:36:28.381 ♪ Pay no mind to what they say ♪ 681 00:36:28.464 --> 00:36:32.214 We started writing more melodic songs, 682 00:36:32.297 --> 00:36:35.756 and we got this hybrid of pop and punk. 683 00:36:35.839 --> 00:36:38.964 ♪ Hush now darling, our lips are sealed ♪ 684 00:36:39.047 --> 00:36:40.923 ♪ Hush now... ♪ 685 00:36:43.506 --> 00:36:46.464 It was changing and some people didn't like the change. 686 00:36:48.839 --> 00:36:50.631 My identity as a punk, 687 00:36:50.714 --> 00:36:52.464 I was so absorbed in the scene, 688 00:36:52.547 --> 00:36:57.047 it was my life, my lifestyle, my everything. 689 00:36:57.130 --> 00:36:59.422 Oh, yeah, Margot, fuck, man, yeah, she hated it. 690 00:36:59.506 --> 00:37:01.881 She's like, "I don't want to be a fucking pop band! 691 00:37:01.964 --> 00:37:03.798 I'm in a punk band." 692 00:37:03.881 --> 00:37:07.673 And I don't know, I think the rest of us were like, 693 00:37:07.756 --> 00:37:09.464 this is evolving, 694 00:37:09.547 --> 00:37:13.172 so fucking get with it or get out, I don't know. 695 00:37:13.255 --> 00:37:16.339 You know, it wasn't just the music, 696 00:37:16.422 --> 00:37:20.506 it was the sense of being packaged into a product. 697 00:37:21.839 --> 00:37:26.589 It was just becoming less about art and more about money. 698 00:37:27.798 --> 00:37:30.547 I just felt like, what the fuck are you doing it for, 699 00:37:30.631 --> 00:37:33.506 to stay with a following of a couple of thousand people? 700 00:37:33.589 --> 00:37:35.881 Or do you want to have people all over this country 701 00:37:35.964 --> 00:37:38.089 know your music and know your songwriting, 702 00:37:38.172 --> 00:37:40.714 know, you know, what kind of musician you are? 703 00:37:42.839 --> 00:37:47.214 We had shows over New Year's Eve at The Whisky, 704 00:37:47.297 --> 00:37:49.547 and Margot had gotten really, really sick. 705 00:37:49.631 --> 00:37:52.381 So, we had to scramble around and find someone. 706 00:37:54.964 --> 00:37:59.381 Kathy, I met at the Whisky a Go Go. 707 00:37:59.464 --> 00:38:01.464 I was approached by Charlotte 708 00:38:01.547 --> 00:38:04.547 and asked if I could play bass, and I said yes. 709 00:38:04.631 --> 00:38:05.756 It was a big lie. 710 00:38:05.839 --> 00:38:09.964 I figured, I've been playing guitar five or six years, 711 00:38:10.047 --> 00:38:12.339 why can't I play a bass? 712 00:38:12.422 --> 00:38:14.005 So, I go home. 713 00:38:14.089 --> 00:38:17.714 First thing in the morning, I borrow a bass from somebody. 714 00:38:17.798 --> 00:38:19.005 Charlotte came over. 715 00:38:19.089 --> 00:38:20.964 She brought me a little cassette. 716 00:38:21.047 --> 00:38:23.381 She left. 717 00:38:23.464 --> 00:38:26.047 I plugged my bass into my guitar amp. 718 00:38:27.756 --> 00:38:29.589 Feels weird, I use my pick. 719 00:38:33.839 --> 00:38:36.923 I start listening, I can't hear, it's a rehearsal tape. 720 00:38:37.005 --> 00:38:38.464 It sounds, you know... zzzt! 721 00:38:41.005 --> 00:38:42.255 You know, I'm like, "Shit." 722 00:38:45.798 --> 00:38:48.589 First thing I have to do is learn on guitar the chords, 723 00:38:48.673 --> 00:38:50.923 because I can't hear. 724 00:38:53.172 --> 00:38:56.255 Then, I started picking up some of the bass parts. 725 00:38:56.339 --> 00:38:58.297 What I could make out I learned, 726 00:38:58.381 --> 00:39:02.047 what I couldn't make out I just made up my own. 727 00:39:06.673 --> 00:39:08.756 I played it over and over. 728 00:39:10.464 --> 00:39:12.089 I'm a perfectionist, you know. 729 00:39:14.631 --> 00:39:16.673 The only way to do it as much as I was doing it 730 00:39:16.756 --> 00:39:20.297 was to get pharmaceutical help. 731 00:39:24.714 --> 00:39:27.798 I basically learned all their songs on a coke binge. 732 00:39:37.422 --> 00:39:39.464 Charlotte came over to see how it was going. 733 00:39:39.547 --> 00:39:41.631 I went to her house. 734 00:39:41.714 --> 00:39:43.297 She was kind of like in the middle 735 00:39:43.381 --> 00:39:45.673 of like a three-day bender on coke, 736 00:39:45.756 --> 00:39:48.214 and I'd never met anyone like that. 737 00:39:48.297 --> 00:39:49.964 And I thought, "Wow, my God." 738 00:39:50.047 --> 00:39:53.714 She was a badass musician. 739 00:39:53.798 --> 00:39:57.631 She learned those songs on bass in, like, a couple days, 740 00:39:57.714 --> 00:39:59.047 and she had never played bass. 741 00:39:59.130 --> 00:40:01.255 By the time I'd learned those songs, 742 00:40:01.339 --> 00:40:02.798 I just wanted to be in the band. 743 00:40:02.881 --> 00:40:04.673 In case you haven't noticed, 744 00:40:04.756 --> 00:40:07.881 we have a bass player filling in for Margot, she's sick, 745 00:40:07.964 --> 00:40:09.005 and her name's Kathy. 746 00:40:09.089 --> 00:40:11.130 Kathy Valentine, yeah. 747 00:40:12.798 --> 00:40:17.214 In came Kathy Valentine like a knight in shining armor. 748 00:40:19.714 --> 00:40:23.381 I got to be there with the sold-out shows. 749 00:40:23.464 --> 00:40:26.297 It was everything that I had been looking for 750 00:40:26.381 --> 00:40:29.005 since I started playing. 751 00:40:30.214 --> 00:40:31.673 I'm an only child, 752 00:40:31.756 --> 00:40:35.255 and it was just me and my mom when I was raised. 753 00:40:35.339 --> 00:40:39.964 I really liked the idea of a band being a family. 754 00:40:41.214 --> 00:40:42.881 Right away, I just felt like 755 00:40:42.964 --> 00:40:44.798 these are going to be my sisters. 756 00:40:44.881 --> 00:40:48.422 Something just felt right, it just felt like, "We're here." 757 00:40:48.506 --> 00:40:51.255 ♪ Last night you slept, you slept in fits ♪ 758 00:40:51.339 --> 00:40:53.339 ♪ You smashed your windows bit by bit ♪ 759 00:40:53.422 --> 00:40:55.506 They wanted me and I wanted them 760 00:40:55.589 --> 00:40:58.339 and I guess it's a lot like cheaters, 761 00:40:58.422 --> 00:41:01.130 you know, people having affairs. 762 00:41:02.756 --> 00:41:05.547 I remember Margot being true to herself 763 00:41:05.631 --> 00:41:07.297 and very authentic. 764 00:41:07.381 --> 00:41:10.589 She wanted to remain a punk band but we didn't, 765 00:41:10.673 --> 00:41:15.547 so we just decided it was best to carry on without her. 766 00:41:17.839 --> 00:41:20.756 I was told I had to do the firing because, 767 00:41:20.839 --> 00:41:23.714 "You're the manager, Ginger, you've got to do it." 768 00:41:23.798 --> 00:41:27.214 Because none of them had the... the guts to do it. 769 00:41:30.089 --> 00:41:34.047 It was a shock to get a phone call from Ginger. 770 00:41:34.130 --> 00:41:35.631 "You're out of the band. 771 00:41:35.714 --> 00:41:38.130 The girls didn't want to tell you." 772 00:41:38.214 --> 00:41:42.172 It was a decision that they had made and that was it. 773 00:41:44.005 --> 00:41:47.089 It was something I'd worked so hard for 774 00:41:47.172 --> 00:41:50.255 and with friends. 775 00:41:50.339 --> 00:41:53.923 People ask me, "How do you deal with such betrayal?" 776 00:41:54.005 --> 00:41:56.172 In our little scene in L.A., 777 00:41:56.255 --> 00:41:59.255 there was lots of gossip and lots of people talking about us, 778 00:41:59.339 --> 00:42:00.881 and not in a good way. 779 00:42:00.964 --> 00:42:03.964 We had fired Margot, we had sold out, 780 00:42:04.047 --> 00:42:07.756 we weren't a punk band, we were ambitious. 781 00:42:09.631 --> 00:42:12.589 In the community, it became like a divorce 782 00:42:12.673 --> 00:42:15.673 because it was like they were on a rocket to fame 783 00:42:15.756 --> 00:42:17.631 and they decided to fuck Margot over. 784 00:42:17.714 --> 00:42:21.339 I knew I would miss the scene and the community, 785 00:42:21.422 --> 00:42:23.547 but I didn't want to be hanging out 786 00:42:23.631 --> 00:42:27.130 where I would risk running into them. 787 00:42:27.214 --> 00:42:29.214 I didn't want to see them at all. 788 00:42:30.506 --> 00:42:33.089 ♪ Pay no mind to what they say ♪ 789 00:42:34.464 --> 00:42:37.547 ♪ It doesn't matter anyway, hey hey hey ♪ 790 00:42:37.631 --> 00:42:40.631 I didn't think about how that must have felt for her. 791 00:42:40.714 --> 00:42:41.964 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 792 00:42:42.047 --> 00:42:44.464 There were shows booked for three weeks later 793 00:42:44.547 --> 00:42:46.047 and I just wanted to make sure 794 00:42:46.130 --> 00:42:47.756 I was the one doing them, you know. 795 00:42:47.839 --> 00:42:51.005 ♪ Pay no mind to what they say ♪ 796 00:42:51.089 --> 00:42:53.506 Kathy Valentine fit right in 797 00:42:53.589 --> 00:42:55.464 and was the needed change 798 00:42:55.547 --> 00:42:57.673 to propel the band to their next step. 799 00:42:57.756 --> 00:43:02.673 ♪ Our lips are sealed, our lips are sealed ♪ 800 00:43:04.798 --> 00:43:09.589 You have no idea how barren the landscape was in '81. 801 00:43:09.673 --> 00:43:13.339 The idea that women, a host of different women, 802 00:43:13.422 --> 00:43:16.339 would tell their stories in these kinds of songs 803 00:43:16.422 --> 00:43:17.881 and do it the punk way. 804 00:43:19.297 --> 00:43:22.297 Finding their own way in a very difficult environment, 805 00:43:22.381 --> 00:43:23.923 that was unheard of. 806 00:43:30.756 --> 00:43:33.130 There was a whole new generation of music coming up 807 00:43:33.214 --> 00:43:36.005 and the establishment record business 808 00:43:36.089 --> 00:43:38.047 really sort of dismissed them, 809 00:43:38.130 --> 00:43:42.339 and I saw them as a generational change. 810 00:43:42.422 --> 00:43:44.714 Miles Copeland, who managed The Police, 811 00:43:44.798 --> 00:43:47.547 decided to start his own boutique label. 812 00:43:47.631 --> 00:43:49.881 He called it IRS Records. 813 00:43:49.964 --> 00:43:51.881 Part of what I wanted to do 814 00:43:51.964 --> 00:43:55.172 was to find some local American bands. 815 00:43:56.255 --> 00:43:58.297 And I'd heard about The Go-Go's. 816 00:43:58.381 --> 00:44:01.923 All girls, punks from L.A.? 817 00:44:02.005 --> 00:44:04.547 Even if they were crap you'd almost want to sign them, 818 00:44:04.631 --> 00:44:05.756 you know what I mean? 819 00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:09.255 But they were good and they had good songs. 820 00:44:09.339 --> 00:44:12.631 We signed on April 1st to IRS Records 821 00:44:12.714 --> 00:44:16.214 and the next day we flew to New York. 822 00:44:16.297 --> 00:44:19.089 ♪ ...if you could and be one of us ♪ 823 00:44:19.172 --> 00:44:21.297 We played a couple more gigs. 824 00:44:26.005 --> 00:44:28.422 You know, I was 22 years old 825 00:44:28.506 --> 00:44:30.506 in New York City making a record. 826 00:44:30.589 --> 00:44:33.297 ♪ Change the lines that were said before ♪ 827 00:44:33.381 --> 00:44:34.756 ♪ We're all dreamers ♪ 828 00:44:34.839 --> 00:44:37.631 With The Go-Go's as a punk band, 829 00:44:37.714 --> 00:44:38.881 they didn't have the experience 830 00:44:38.964 --> 00:44:43.839 to know they could do more than just execute the moment. 831 00:44:43.923 --> 00:44:47.339 That's what I would try to instill in them, 832 00:44:47.422 --> 00:44:50.464 to say there are grooves, there are feelings. 833 00:44:50.547 --> 00:44:55.005 If your songs are really good, you don't run through them. 834 00:44:55.089 --> 00:44:58.005 ♪ Change the lines that were said before ♪ 835 00:44:58.089 --> 00:45:00.881 ♪ We're all dreamers, we're all whores ♪ 836 00:45:00.964 --> 00:45:04.547 ♪ Discarded stars like worn-out cars ♪ 837 00:45:04.631 --> 00:45:07.339 When Richard Gottehrer got a hold of us, 838 00:45:07.422 --> 00:45:08.923 he said, "Slow everything down." 839 00:45:09.005 --> 00:45:11.798 ♪ This town, litter the streets ♪ 840 00:45:11.881 --> 00:45:14.631 So, you could actually understand the words 841 00:45:14.714 --> 00:45:17.464 and the melodies were more flowing. 842 00:45:17.547 --> 00:45:20.047 ♪ This town is our town ♪ 843 00:45:20.130 --> 00:45:22.839 ♪ It is so glamorous ♪ 844 00:45:22.923 --> 00:45:25.506 That's when I realized, these are all pop songs. 845 00:45:25.589 --> 00:45:28.297 ♪ And be one of us ♪ 846 00:45:30.881 --> 00:45:32.673 I think actually it was my idea 847 00:45:32.756 --> 00:45:34.964 for the face masks and towels, 848 00:45:35.047 --> 00:45:37.547 to sort of be timeless and incognito. 849 00:45:37.631 --> 00:45:39.964 I thought fabulous graphically, 850 00:45:40.047 --> 00:45:42.923 I thought, "Oh, that could be really brilliant." 851 00:45:43.964 --> 00:45:45.673 Once again we had no money, 852 00:45:45.756 --> 00:45:49.506 so Ginger went to Macy's and bought all those towels. 853 00:45:49.589 --> 00:45:53.047 She returned those towels to Macy's afterwards. 854 00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:54.506 I couldn't invest in all these 855 00:45:54.589 --> 00:45:56.756 brand-new fluffy, white, expensive towels. 856 00:45:56.839 --> 00:45:58.464 We couldn't afford those. 857 00:45:58.547 --> 00:46:01.297 ♪ It is so glamorous ♪ 858 00:46:01.381 --> 00:46:04.964 We were like going through adolescence again together. 859 00:46:08.130 --> 00:46:10.881 Being the good middle-class boy growing up, 860 00:46:10.964 --> 00:46:13.255 girls are one way, guys are another way. 861 00:46:13.339 --> 00:46:15.464 Well, I learned it's not like that. 862 00:46:15.547 --> 00:46:18.130 I learned that completely from them. 863 00:46:20.172 --> 00:46:23.130 We'd get done with a session and I'd hear something like, 864 00:46:23.214 --> 00:46:25.047 "Let's go get some booty tonight." 865 00:46:25.130 --> 00:46:26.714 And I'm thinking, "booty?" 866 00:46:28.589 --> 00:46:30.547 We had a lot of fun, did a lot of drugs, 867 00:46:30.631 --> 00:46:33.047 drank a lot, just like a band does. 868 00:46:34.089 --> 00:46:36.589 Just a bunch of scruffy girls 869 00:46:36.673 --> 00:46:39.381 having the time of our life. 870 00:46:39.464 --> 00:46:41.172 ♪ This town ♪ 871 00:46:43.255 --> 00:46:48.089 But in the midst of all the bonding and insanity and fun, 872 00:46:48.172 --> 00:46:52.881 I just felt so much distance with Charlotte. 873 00:46:55.297 --> 00:46:58.881 Charlotte tended to isolate herself quite a bit. 874 00:46:58.964 --> 00:47:00.089 So, we had really... 875 00:47:00.172 --> 00:47:02.130 she had this whole secret life going on. 876 00:47:02.214 --> 00:47:04.005 We knew it probably wasn't good. 877 00:47:05.964 --> 00:47:08.130 Okay, let me talk about myself. 878 00:47:08.214 --> 00:47:10.923 I was full-blown heroin addict at the time. 879 00:47:11.005 --> 00:47:13.923 So, I would be scoring dope, which is so scary. 880 00:47:14.005 --> 00:47:16.339 Like, I'd go down to Alphabet City. Yikes! 881 00:47:18.005 --> 00:47:20.923 When I moved to New York, I became a squatter 882 00:47:21.005 --> 00:47:23.214 living in what is now the East Village, 883 00:47:23.297 --> 00:47:27.964 and I saw Charlotte walking east to Alphabet City. 884 00:47:29.464 --> 00:47:32.923 The Alphabets is where everyone would go to cop drugs, 885 00:47:33.005 --> 00:47:35.214 so I knew where she was going. 886 00:47:41.089 --> 00:47:43.297 After I graduated from college, 887 00:47:43.381 --> 00:47:45.130 I tried heroin for the first time. 888 00:47:45.214 --> 00:47:47.923 "Oh, let me try this. I'll be fine!" 889 00:47:48.005 --> 00:47:49.005 It was like, you know, 890 00:47:49.089 --> 00:47:52.714 a little matchstick head size that I snorted. 891 00:47:53.798 --> 00:47:55.339 It made me feel like really great, 892 00:47:55.422 --> 00:47:58.130 and I was like, "Wow, I like this feeling!" 893 00:47:58.214 --> 00:48:00.297 But I didn't understand at that time, 894 00:48:00.381 --> 00:48:02.422 like, it was deadly shit. 895 00:48:02.506 --> 00:48:05.172 Then, I became addicted. 896 00:48:05.255 --> 00:48:08.964 ♪ Automatic, time stop ♪ 897 00:48:09.047 --> 00:48:11.297 She and I were like sharing a room together 898 00:48:11.381 --> 00:48:15.172 and she was actively having a heroin addiction, 899 00:48:15.255 --> 00:48:18.714 which I never saw her take heroin, I never saw heroin. 900 00:48:18.798 --> 00:48:21.297 I mean, how did she do that? She was very secretive. 901 00:48:21.381 --> 00:48:24.422 She'd come to rehearsal, I'd say, "Look at her fucking eyes! 902 00:48:24.506 --> 00:48:26.339 Her eyes are pinned, look at her eyes!" 903 00:48:26.422 --> 00:48:28.631 I went and I knocked on her door. 904 00:48:28.714 --> 00:48:31.214 She answered and she had on her Ray-Bans. 905 00:48:31.297 --> 00:48:33.673 And I said, "They told me that you do heroin." 906 00:48:33.756 --> 00:48:36.172 And she just looked at me, she said, "No, no, no." 907 00:48:36.255 --> 00:48:38.130 And I was like, "Oh, okay, good." 908 00:48:38.214 --> 00:48:40.339 She was way more out of control 909 00:48:40.422 --> 00:48:44.089 than I think any of us really knew about. 910 00:48:46.172 --> 00:48:47.214 You alright? 911 00:48:47.297 --> 00:48:49.714 Yeah, I'm trying to figure something out here. 912 00:48:49.798 --> 00:48:50.798 Okay, go ahead. 913 00:48:50.881 --> 00:48:52.881 Just put yours first, just keep it the same. 914 00:48:52.964 --> 00:48:55.673 Are we both saying it? "Hi, we're Kathy and Charlotte." 915 00:48:55.756 --> 00:48:57.547 Yeah, let's just do it. 916 00:48:57.631 --> 00:48:59.756 Okay, we'll give it a try. 917 00:48:59.839 --> 00:49:02.756 Here we go. In three, two... 918 00:49:02.839 --> 00:49:06.089 Hi, we're Kathy and Charlotte of The Go-Go's 919 00:49:06.172 --> 00:49:09.589 and you can watch MTV 24 hours a day 920 00:49:09.673 --> 00:49:12.297 on cable vision in stereo. 921 00:49:18.756 --> 00:49:20.798 ♪ Can you hear them? ♪ 922 00:49:20.881 --> 00:49:22.798 ♪ They talk about us... ♪ 923 00:49:22.881 --> 00:49:25.089 The Go-Go's and MTV came up 924 00:49:25.172 --> 00:49:28.130 at the perfect time for each other, 925 00:49:28.214 --> 00:49:30.673 because MTV was all about, 926 00:49:30.756 --> 00:49:33.923 "This is what the artists that you love look like." 927 00:49:34.005 --> 00:49:38.381 They came along looking adorable and effervescent and fun. 928 00:49:38.464 --> 00:49:40.923 It just was a match made in heaven. 929 00:49:41.005 --> 00:49:43.172 ♪ Hey hey hey ♪ 930 00:49:44.172 --> 00:49:47.214 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 931 00:49:47.297 --> 00:49:50.214 Well, it was a cheap music video, actually. 932 00:49:50.297 --> 00:49:53.756 "Our Lips Are Sealed" was done on a $6000 budget, 933 00:49:53.839 --> 00:49:57.631 and that money came from a Police video 934 00:49:57.714 --> 00:50:00.005 that they didn't spend all their money on, 935 00:50:00.089 --> 00:50:04.005 so Miles took the money and let us spend it. 936 00:50:04.089 --> 00:50:05.547 ♪ Doesn't matter what they say ♪ 937 00:50:05.631 --> 00:50:08.589 We had no idea how important video was going to be, 938 00:50:08.673 --> 00:50:10.964 so we thought, "This is a big waste of time. 939 00:50:11.047 --> 00:50:12.839 Why are we doing this?" 940 00:50:12.923 --> 00:50:14.089 None of us took it seriously. 941 00:50:14.172 --> 00:50:17.130 We wanted to get arrested and have that on tape. 942 00:50:18.172 --> 00:50:20.506 We decided if we jumped in the fountain, 943 00:50:20.589 --> 00:50:22.839 the Beverly Hills cops would come and arrest us 944 00:50:22.923 --> 00:50:25.172 and it would be a really great way to end the video. 945 00:50:25.255 --> 00:50:27.839 So, we're sitting there frolicking in the water, 946 00:50:27.923 --> 00:50:29.714 frolicking, frolicking, frolicking. 947 00:50:29.798 --> 00:50:32.172 We jumped around in that goddamn fountain 948 00:50:32.255 --> 00:50:35.089 for quite a while and nobody even paid any attention to us. 949 00:50:35.172 --> 00:50:37.798 No one would arrest us. 950 00:50:37.881 --> 00:50:41.297 Next thing you know, MTV is the biggest thing in America 951 00:50:41.381 --> 00:50:43.839 and they're showing The Go-Go's every half hour. 952 00:50:43.923 --> 00:50:47.381 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 953 00:50:47.464 --> 00:50:51.047 I was saying to Ginger, "Your band is happening. 954 00:50:51.130 --> 00:50:53.381 If we put you on opening for The Police, 955 00:50:53.464 --> 00:50:58.214 it's going to really open so many more eyes and more ears 956 00:50:58.297 --> 00:51:01.172 that it might really help make the difference." 957 00:51:01.255 --> 00:51:05.047 Miles Copeland, with his vision saying, 958 00:51:05.130 --> 00:51:08.172 "Would you like The Go-Go's to open for The Police?" Why, yes! 959 00:51:08.255 --> 00:51:12.255 It was a coup for us because they were huge at the time. 960 00:51:12.339 --> 00:51:14.756 We traveled around the world opening for them. 961 00:51:21.255 --> 00:51:24.172 They were the best opening act ever. 962 00:51:24.255 --> 00:51:27.005 The Go-Go's came out, they were so enthusiastic, so up, 963 00:51:27.089 --> 00:51:28.547 their songs were so bright 964 00:51:28.631 --> 00:51:30.756 that they just would light up the room. 965 00:51:31.964 --> 00:51:34.172 ♪ Walking by ♪ 966 00:51:34.255 --> 00:51:39.005 ♪ You hold your head so close to hers ♪ 967 00:51:39.089 --> 00:51:44.005 ♪ I could cry, I could cry ♪ 968 00:51:44.089 --> 00:51:45.964 ♪ I want to be... ♪ 969 00:51:46.047 --> 00:51:48.339 When we toured with The Police, 970 00:51:48.422 --> 00:51:51.589 it took us from playing clubs to arenas. 971 00:51:51.673 --> 00:51:54.964 When I walked out on stage, I almost died. 972 00:51:57.547 --> 00:51:59.798 ♪ How much more can I take ♪ 973 00:51:59.881 --> 00:52:02.339 They had the most important ingredient 974 00:52:02.422 --> 00:52:04.297 of musicianship, which is feel. 975 00:52:04.381 --> 00:52:07.881 They established a groove that worked, 976 00:52:07.964 --> 00:52:09.506 that you could lock into. 977 00:52:09.589 --> 00:52:12.714 They just created something that exploded on the stage. 978 00:52:12.798 --> 00:52:15.881 ♪ Yeah, crazy oh yeah ♪ 979 00:52:15.964 --> 00:52:17.339 Yeah! 980 00:52:23.506 --> 00:52:25.839 During that Police tour, 981 00:52:25.923 --> 00:52:28.339 our album kept going up and up and up in the chart. 982 00:52:28.422 --> 00:52:31.506 Their album was like a sky rocket, 983 00:52:31.589 --> 00:52:33.839 and that made it really fun for us. 984 00:52:33.923 --> 00:52:37.798 It was like a vicarious thrill because we were old and jaded, 985 00:52:37.881 --> 00:52:40.756 to see these women, a new band, 986 00:52:40.839 --> 00:52:43.756 experiencing the thrill for the first time, 987 00:52:43.839 --> 00:52:45.589 that lit us up. 988 00:52:45.673 --> 00:52:49.005 We were in Atlanta and Sting came in the dressing room 989 00:52:49.089 --> 00:52:52.589 and he's got champagne. "Congratulations, girls." 990 00:52:52.673 --> 00:52:54.214 We're looking at him, like, what? 991 00:52:54.297 --> 00:52:58.339 He said, "Your record has passed ours." 992 00:52:58.422 --> 00:53:01.464 They were number six and then we went to number one. 993 00:53:04.255 --> 00:53:06.214 They brought us champagne. 994 00:53:06.297 --> 00:53:09.130 It was actually very gentlemanly of them to do that 995 00:53:09.214 --> 00:53:11.631 and not kick us off the tour! 996 00:53:11.714 --> 00:53:14.464 Beauty And The Beat's gone to number one 997 00:53:14.547 --> 00:53:18.297 and I think we were all kind of over the moon. 998 00:53:19.506 --> 00:53:22.506 This is it, this is everything. 999 00:53:22.589 --> 00:53:26.631 Every step along the way, it just kept getting better. 1000 00:53:26.714 --> 00:53:31.047 I wish there was another phrase other than "dream come true," 1001 00:53:31.130 --> 00:53:32.839 because it was so beyond that. 1002 00:53:32.923 --> 00:53:35.464 It was like fulfilled everything. 1003 00:53:35.547 --> 00:53:37.297 This is a circus. 1004 00:53:40.464 --> 00:53:43.130 When you have something that bucks the system 1005 00:53:43.214 --> 00:53:45.422 and succeeds, it opens people's eyes. 1006 00:53:45.506 --> 00:53:48.255 They did something that no group has ever done before them, 1007 00:53:48.339 --> 00:53:51.172 and that is have a number-one album in the United States, 1008 00:53:51.255 --> 00:53:53.005 being all girls. 1009 00:53:53.089 --> 00:53:56.506 They opened people's eyes to potential for women 1010 00:53:56.589 --> 00:53:59.923 to do something that had never really been done before. 1011 00:54:01.339 --> 00:54:04.506 For The Go-Go's to have a debut album go to number one, 1012 00:54:04.589 --> 00:54:07.839 that's something that only like 26 other artists have done, 1013 00:54:07.923 --> 00:54:12.047 like you know, the biggies, Elvis, The Beatles. 1014 00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:14.047 They made history. 1015 00:54:14.130 --> 00:54:15.881 They're the first all-female band 1016 00:54:15.964 --> 00:54:17.339 to play their own instruments, 1017 00:54:17.422 --> 00:54:21.756 write their own songs, number-one record for six weeks. 1018 00:54:21.839 --> 00:54:23.005 Mic drop. 1019 00:54:27.005 --> 00:54:30.464 When I went to The Go-Go's concert in 1982, 1020 00:54:30.547 --> 00:54:33.214 as a young girl going into a space 1021 00:54:33.297 --> 00:54:36.964 where women own the stage, 1022 00:54:37.047 --> 00:54:40.255 and own it unapologetically 1023 00:54:40.339 --> 00:54:42.756 like they were born to be there, 1024 00:54:42.839 --> 00:54:46.756 to me it represented a moment of possibility. 1025 00:54:46.839 --> 00:54:48.172 Thanks, good night! 1026 00:54:53.089 --> 00:54:54.506 Thanks a lot! 1027 00:54:54.589 --> 00:54:57.255 These-- we're having a high school reunion, you see. 1028 00:54:57.339 --> 00:54:59.422 I went to high school with all these people. 1029 00:54:59.506 --> 00:55:00.756 Girls run up to us and say, 1030 00:55:00.839 --> 00:55:02.422 "We started a band because of you!" 1031 00:55:02.506 --> 00:55:04.798 That's probably the best feeling in the world, 1032 00:55:04.881 --> 00:55:07.464 it's really great to think that you inspire people 1033 00:55:07.547 --> 00:55:08.673 to go out and start a band. 1034 00:55:08.756 --> 00:55:11.589 So, this is the dawning of a new era, this is it. 1035 00:55:14.714 --> 00:55:17.089 Everybody has a different perspective I'm sure 1036 00:55:17.172 --> 00:55:19.255 on what happened at Saturday Night Live. 1037 00:55:19.339 --> 00:55:20.506 Oh, God. 1038 00:55:21.881 --> 00:55:24.297 We got there 11 in the morning, 1039 00:55:24.381 --> 00:55:27.130 and we had to wait until 11 at night basically. 1040 00:55:27.214 --> 00:55:30.381 I think it was just a case of us 1041 00:55:30.464 --> 00:55:34.464 sitting around a TV studio way too long, 1042 00:55:34.547 --> 00:55:36.881 and then, just starting to dip into the booze. 1043 00:55:36.964 --> 00:55:39.881 Let's have a toast, champagne. 1044 00:55:39.964 --> 00:55:44.297 And then, oh, it's lunch time, we'll have some wine. 1045 00:55:44.381 --> 00:55:46.172 So then, you want to balance it out, 1046 00:55:46.255 --> 00:55:48.172 you want to lift things up a little, 1047 00:55:48.255 --> 00:55:50.297 so magically the blow appears. 1048 00:55:50.381 --> 00:55:52.005 Right before we went on, 1049 00:55:52.089 --> 00:55:53.631 they said, "Remember, girls, 1050 00:55:53.714 --> 00:55:56.089 you're playing in front of 50 million people live." 1051 00:55:56.172 --> 00:55:58.130 And we were just like ... 1052 00:55:58.214 --> 00:56:00.130 ♪ Yeah, we got it ♪ 1053 00:56:00.214 --> 00:56:02.255 We were like cross-eyed drunk. 1054 00:56:05.589 --> 00:56:10.047 The funny thing is, the next day we sold a ton of records. 1055 00:56:11.005 --> 00:56:13.422 Even buzzing, messed-up Go-Go's 1056 00:56:13.506 --> 00:56:15.631 being beamed into people's living rooms, 1057 00:56:15.714 --> 00:56:18.047 it' still something that people are just going, 1058 00:56:18.130 --> 00:56:19.089 "Whoa, we like this." 1059 00:56:22.214 --> 00:56:25.130 Now that we've had a little bit of success and stuff 1060 00:56:25.214 --> 00:56:28.673 and now we know how wonderful it can be, we want more. 1061 00:56:30.422 --> 00:56:32.089 The Rolling Stone cover 1062 00:56:32.172 --> 00:56:34.506 was supposed to be a comment on sexism, 1063 00:56:34.589 --> 00:56:35.964 and obviously it backfired, 1064 00:56:36.047 --> 00:56:39.005 because if we had really been trying to be sexy 1065 00:56:39.089 --> 00:56:40.839 and push our wares as women, 1066 00:56:40.923 --> 00:56:42.923 you know, we would have worn sexy underwear 1067 00:56:43.005 --> 00:56:45.422 instead of, you know, Hanes and Fruit of the Loom. 1068 00:56:45.506 --> 00:56:47.756 It's so tame, but when it came out 1069 00:56:47.839 --> 00:56:51.172 it did not help that Rolling Stone chose the headline: 1070 00:56:51.255 --> 00:56:53.422 "The Go-Go's Put Out." 1071 00:56:53.506 --> 00:56:56.130 "Ginger, you've gotta call Rolling Stone. 1072 00:56:56.214 --> 00:56:57.339 We're not happy. 1073 00:56:57.422 --> 00:56:59.839 We don't like that they used these pictures 1074 00:56:59.923 --> 00:57:02.089 on the front of the magazine." 1075 00:57:02.172 --> 00:57:03.506 So, I phoned Rolling Stone 1076 00:57:03.589 --> 00:57:05.255 and asked for Jann the publisher. 1077 00:57:05.339 --> 00:57:08.589 I said, "Jann, some of the girls are very upset about the image 1078 00:57:08.673 --> 00:57:10.547 used on the front of the magazine." 1079 00:57:10.631 --> 00:57:13.839 And there was a brief pause and Jann said, 1080 00:57:13.923 --> 00:57:16.798 "I thought you were calling me to thank me for the cover. 1081 00:57:16.881 --> 00:57:19.005 You girls need to grow up." Clunk! 1082 00:57:19.089 --> 00:57:22.047 Maybe that's why we're not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, 1083 00:57:22.130 --> 00:57:24.464 those ungrateful wenches. 1084 00:57:26.798 --> 00:57:29.631 Our success was so quick, 1085 00:57:29.714 --> 00:57:32.381 and I always felt like a little bit of an impostor 1086 00:57:32.464 --> 00:57:34.673 when it came to success, like it was undeserved. 1087 00:57:34.756 --> 00:57:37.089 We asked them why they are succeeding 1088 00:57:37.172 --> 00:57:38.756 where other girl groups have failed. 1089 00:57:38.839 --> 00:57:41.673 The majority of the reason must be because of the songs, 1090 00:57:41.756 --> 00:57:44.464 if people don't like your songs they're not gonna wanna 1091 00:57:44.547 --> 00:57:46.297 come see you live, or buy your records. 1092 00:57:46.381 --> 00:57:48.756 Whether you're a girl or whatever you are. 1093 00:57:48.839 --> 00:57:52.255 I think that timing and luck, there is an element of that. 1094 00:57:52.339 --> 00:57:55.923 I think luckily for us there are now five.... 1095 00:57:56.005 --> 00:58:01.756 women all in one band who all have fear of failure. 1096 00:58:01.839 --> 00:58:03.005 Really. 1097 00:58:04.089 --> 00:58:06.464 I think everybody, not just the band, 1098 00:58:06.547 --> 00:58:07.756 probably the record company, 1099 00:58:07.839 --> 00:58:10.255 was scrambling around to figure out what to do next 1100 00:58:10.339 --> 00:58:11.756 on the back of such a big success. 1101 00:58:11.839 --> 00:58:14.881 Putting out a second album made sense to the record industry 1102 00:58:14.964 --> 00:58:18.255 because they want to make more records and make more money. 1103 00:58:18.339 --> 00:58:22.255 And they're going to milk it for everything that they can, 1104 00:58:22.339 --> 00:58:24.047 but at a price. 1105 00:58:24.130 --> 00:58:26.339 Do you have any time to write songs now 1106 00:58:26.422 --> 00:58:28.339 with all the traveling you're doing? 1107 00:58:28.422 --> 00:58:30.839 We've come, right now we're starting, 1108 00:58:30.923 --> 00:58:33.506 this next month we're going to work on new stuff. 1109 00:58:33.589 --> 00:58:35.756 What are you gonna write about? 1110 00:58:35.839 --> 00:58:37.756 Well, I can't really say 1111 00:58:37.839 --> 00:58:40.798 what we're going to write about, I don't know. 1112 00:58:40.881 --> 00:58:42.964 Vacation as a record, 1113 00:58:43.047 --> 00:58:47.881 we were so rushed that the songwriting reflects that. 1114 00:58:48.881 --> 00:58:51.422 But I felt like, "Oh, my God, I wrote a hit song 1115 00:58:51.506 --> 00:58:53.130 and now what do I do," you know? 1116 00:58:53.214 --> 00:58:56.130 It's like, it messes with your head. 1117 00:58:56.214 --> 00:58:59.714 And, you know, you always hear about the sophomore jinx. 1118 00:59:03.547 --> 00:59:06.798 I was freaking out because we were scrambling for material 1119 00:59:06.881 --> 00:59:08.673 and then, luckily we got "Vacation." 1120 00:59:08.756 --> 00:59:12.214 Kathy wrote "Vacation" and was playing it in her previous band 1121 00:59:12.297 --> 00:59:14.631 to The Go-Go's, The Textones. 1122 00:59:17.047 --> 00:59:21.047 ♪ I've thought a lot of things about you ♪ 1123 00:59:22.130 --> 00:59:26.339 ♪ I've stayed awake just thinking 'bout you ♪ 1124 00:59:26.422 --> 00:59:27.964 I showed it to Charlotte, 1125 00:59:28.047 --> 00:59:29.756 she said, "I really like this song, 1126 00:59:29.839 --> 00:59:31.881 I think, you know, it needs more of a chorus." 1127 00:59:31.964 --> 00:59:36.964 ♪ Tomorrow's a day of mine that you won't be in ♪ 1128 00:59:37.047 --> 00:59:40.547 I really felt like the original version kind of went down, 1129 00:59:40.631 --> 00:59:42.506 and this, it just should have gone up. 1130 00:59:42.589 --> 00:59:45.339 ♪ Vacation, all I ever wanted ♪ 1131 00:59:45.422 --> 00:59:48.255 ♪ A vacation, had to get away ♪ 1132 00:59:48.339 --> 00:59:50.881 If we hadn't had that song on the record, 1133 00:59:50.964 --> 00:59:53.839 it would have been a very different outcome for us. 1134 00:59:53.923 --> 00:59:56.673 That probably would've ended everything right there, 1135 00:59:56.756 --> 00:59:58.381 'cause that song was really cool. 1136 00:59:58.464 --> 00:59:59.923 ♪ Had to get away ♪ 1137 01:00:00.005 --> 01:00:02.839 ♪ Vacation, meant to be spent alone ♪ 1138 01:00:02.923 --> 01:00:05.923 Who knew that the girls were such able water skiers? 1139 01:00:06.005 --> 01:00:10.589 At the video shoot, they started wandering off 1140 01:00:10.673 --> 01:00:13.089 wearing their little water ski tutus 1141 01:00:13.172 --> 01:00:15.589 and started walking up La Brea Avenue. 1142 01:00:15.673 --> 01:00:18.756 I followed them and started snapping away. 1143 01:00:19.589 --> 01:00:21.756 They just looked like four ballerinas 1144 01:00:21.839 --> 01:00:24.631 between takes on a movie set or something. 1145 01:00:27.547 --> 01:00:30.839 "Vacation" soon hit the radio waves 1146 01:00:30.923 --> 01:00:34.839 and did really, really well and got lots of play. 1147 01:00:34.964 --> 01:00:38.130 But it stalled in the charts. 1148 01:00:38.214 --> 01:00:42.047 Are you still getting along? 1149 01:00:42.130 --> 01:00:46.214 Yeah, we're getting along really good, as a matter of fact. 1150 01:00:46.297 --> 01:00:48.297 I mean, but this is the beginning of tour, 1151 01:00:48.381 --> 01:00:50.172 so we'll see how it is the last week. 1152 01:00:50.255 --> 01:00:51.297 No, we'll get along, 1153 01:00:51.381 --> 01:00:54.089 we always have got along pretty good I'd say. 1154 01:00:55.589 --> 01:00:56.547 Show time! 1155 01:00:56.631 --> 01:01:00.089 ♪ It's everything but party time ♪ 1156 01:01:00.172 --> 01:01:04.255 ♪ It's everything but party time... ♪ 1157 01:01:04.339 --> 01:01:06.798 I mean, this was like a fucking treadmill. 1158 01:01:06.881 --> 01:01:10.422 They were pushing us constantly. We were on tour constantly. 1159 01:01:12.381 --> 01:01:14.547 You would be absolutely exhausted 1160 01:01:14.631 --> 01:01:18.464 and arrive from some long transatlantic flight, 1161 01:01:18.547 --> 01:01:21.381 and the promoter for an upcoming show 1162 01:01:21.464 --> 01:01:23.631 was reaching out to you in panic saying, 1163 01:01:23.714 --> 01:01:25.964 "We need the girls to do this, this, this and this." 1164 01:01:26.047 --> 01:01:28.631 This has been an incredible year. 1165 01:01:28.714 --> 01:01:30.547 The success, how's it affected your life 1166 01:01:30.631 --> 01:01:32.130 at this stage of the ball game? 1167 01:01:32.214 --> 01:01:34.756 We're aware of how well we're doing 1168 01:01:34.839 --> 01:01:36.714 but we don't feel it, yeah, not yet. 1169 01:01:36.798 --> 01:01:39.881 Just too much overload on the brain right now. 1170 01:01:41.381 --> 01:01:43.464 My life has been planned out for me 1171 01:01:43.547 --> 01:01:45.339 for the next two years. 1172 01:01:45.422 --> 01:01:46.714 I can tell you my schedule 1173 01:01:46.798 --> 01:01:49.422 until September of next year practically. 1174 01:01:51.923 --> 01:01:54.506 When you go from nowhere to number one, 1175 01:01:54.589 --> 01:01:57.714 things change, it's inevitable. 1176 01:01:59.422 --> 01:02:02.047 The old joke is, you know, when you're a new manager 1177 01:02:02.130 --> 01:02:03.631 and you knew what you were doing 1178 01:02:03.714 --> 01:02:06.547 and you're signing a new band, you're God. 1179 01:02:06.631 --> 01:02:09.130 The day they're number one, you're the janitor. 1180 01:02:09.214 --> 01:02:12.047 ♪ Can't seem to get my mind off of you ♪ 1181 01:02:12.130 --> 01:02:15.089 What's the worst thing about being a manager? 1182 01:02:17.297 --> 01:02:19.422 When they don't want you anymore. 1183 01:02:21.923 --> 01:02:26.839 I think the band just got too big for her to handle. 1184 01:02:26.923 --> 01:02:30.589 We wanted to make the most of the time 1185 01:02:30.673 --> 01:02:32.047 that we had in the spotlight. 1186 01:02:32.130 --> 01:02:35.631 We wanted to make money and continue to be successful, 1187 01:02:35.714 --> 01:02:38.589 and we felt like we needed... 1188 01:02:38.673 --> 01:02:41.673 a more experienced person at the helm. 1189 01:02:42.673 --> 01:02:44.881 It was surprising how quickly 1190 01:02:44.964 --> 01:02:47.798 people came out of the woodwork, other managers, 1191 01:02:47.881 --> 01:02:49.923 saying how they could do so much better 1192 01:02:50.005 --> 01:02:53.047 if they had a big management team behind them. 1193 01:02:54.714 --> 01:02:56.381 I'm pretty sure that she knew 1194 01:02:56.464 --> 01:02:59.422 we wanted her to work with a bigger manager 1195 01:02:59.506 --> 01:03:02.673 that had a firm instead of like one person. 1196 01:03:02.756 --> 01:03:05.339 I'm getting kind of choked up, my throat. 1197 01:03:05.422 --> 01:03:06.923 It's like... 1198 01:03:07.005 --> 01:03:09.631 No, no, it's just that it's emotional for me, 1199 01:03:09.714 --> 01:03:11.047 because going back to that time 1200 01:03:11.130 --> 01:03:14.506 it was difficult, remembering it and how I felt. 1201 01:03:17.130 --> 01:03:18.839 It was very painful. 1202 01:03:18.923 --> 01:03:21.089 My band was taken away from me. 1203 01:03:21.172 --> 01:03:23.047 I remember sitting in on meetings 1204 01:03:23.130 --> 01:03:25.881 and feeling incredibly little 1205 01:03:25.964 --> 01:03:27.923 as the girls sat on the edge of their seat 1206 01:03:28.005 --> 01:03:31.381 looking enthralled by these new managers, 1207 01:03:31.464 --> 01:03:33.089 all men, not that that mattered, 1208 01:03:33.172 --> 01:03:35.297 but just like a new power base, 1209 01:03:35.381 --> 01:03:37.047 like this was going to be great, 1210 01:03:37.130 --> 01:03:39.923 that this was going to be, like, change everything. 1211 01:03:40.005 --> 01:03:42.798 It was horrible having them say with the band there, 1212 01:03:42.881 --> 01:03:45.923 "Well, Ginger, we know you know how to take a band from A to B, 1213 01:03:46.005 --> 01:03:47.381 and you do a great job. 1214 01:03:47.464 --> 01:03:50.214 We can take that band from B to Z." 1215 01:03:50.297 --> 01:03:55.172 We felt like it was going to help us go to another level. 1216 01:03:55.255 --> 01:03:56.839 People that set all of it in motion, 1217 01:03:56.923 --> 01:03:59.047 they knew that my days would be numbered, 1218 01:03:59.130 --> 01:04:01.005 that anyone with any integrity, 1219 01:04:01.089 --> 01:04:04.089 you're not going to stick around. Why would you? 1220 01:04:04.172 --> 01:04:07.547 I guess we hurt her, must have hurt her pretty badly 1221 01:04:07.631 --> 01:04:11.422 because she just, one day she was gone. 1222 01:04:11.506 --> 01:04:14.255 It was no "fuck you" or nothing, it was just gone. 1223 01:04:14.339 --> 01:04:17.130 How angry were you? 1224 01:04:17.214 --> 01:04:19.130 Angry enough to move to New York? 1225 01:04:21.631 --> 01:04:24.756 She was like the sixth Go-Go. 1226 01:04:24.839 --> 01:04:29.798 When she left, it really turned into a big business. 1227 01:04:29.881 --> 01:04:32.172 It wasn't even that much fun anymore. 1228 01:04:32.255 --> 01:04:35.422 We just, that's all we knew how to do was be a Go-Go. 1229 01:04:38.047 --> 01:04:40.130 Gina was in our new manager's office, 1230 01:04:40.214 --> 01:04:42.964 supposedly a more professional management company 1231 01:04:43.047 --> 01:04:44.172 who turned out to suck, 1232 01:04:44.255 --> 01:04:46.756 we should've just stuck with Ginger. 1233 01:04:46.839 --> 01:04:50.839 But, I guess Gina saw a check that Charlotte got 1234 01:04:50.923 --> 01:04:53.214 and it was for, like, a gazillion dollars. 1235 01:04:53.297 --> 01:04:56.005 And of course, Gina wasn't getting a check like that. 1236 01:04:56.089 --> 01:04:57.756 I almost fell over. 1237 01:04:57.839 --> 01:05:00.839 He said, "See how much she makes? 1238 01:05:00.923 --> 01:05:03.631 That's 'cause she's a songwriter." 1239 01:05:03.714 --> 01:05:06.506 There are two ways you make money out of a record. 1240 01:05:06.589 --> 01:05:08.881 You make it in the recording and the publishing. 1241 01:05:08.964 --> 01:05:10.673 The person who writes the songs, 1242 01:05:10.756 --> 01:05:14.673 which is really the vehicle that you need... 1243 01:05:14.756 --> 01:05:16.506 is going to make more money. 1244 01:05:16.589 --> 01:05:18.506 And that can cause problems. 1245 01:05:18.589 --> 01:05:20.297 You write a lot of the songs, right? 1246 01:05:20.381 --> 01:05:21.464 -Yeah. -With Charlotte? 1247 01:05:21.547 --> 01:05:23.714 Charlotte writing "We Got The Beat" 1248 01:05:23.798 --> 01:05:25.214 all by herself, that song was huge. 1249 01:05:25.297 --> 01:05:28.214 It's like everyone wanted it for commercials and movies 1250 01:05:28.297 --> 01:05:29.631 and TV shows, and that's like 1251 01:05:29.714 --> 01:05:32.047 cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. 1252 01:05:32.130 --> 01:05:35.047 Songwriting was so important to me, it was my identity. 1253 01:05:35.130 --> 01:05:38.172 That's why I held so close, so dear to me 1254 01:05:38.255 --> 01:05:41.047 and, you know, you can't, you can't take any part of this. 1255 01:05:41.130 --> 01:05:44.047 This is mine, this is who I am. 1256 01:05:44.130 --> 01:05:46.923 I will still stand behind the belief that songwriting 1257 01:05:47.005 --> 01:05:49.881 is a really specific skill that many people don't have, 1258 01:05:49.964 --> 01:05:51.422 and it's a lot of extra hard work 1259 01:05:51.506 --> 01:05:53.172 that other people aren't doing. 1260 01:05:55.130 --> 01:05:57.047 I'd made more money 1261 01:05:57.130 --> 01:06:00.005 than I'd ever imagined in my lifetime, 1262 01:06:00.089 --> 01:06:03.964 but I knew there was going to be an issue in the discrepancy 1263 01:06:04.047 --> 01:06:07.130 between the highest earner, who was Charlotte, 1264 01:06:07.214 --> 01:06:10.798 and the lowest earner, who was Gina and Belinda. 1265 01:06:10.881 --> 01:06:12.631 I knew there was gonna be a problem. 1266 01:06:12.714 --> 01:06:15.506 Most people think that we're really rich right now, 1267 01:06:15.589 --> 01:06:18.339 but I don't... 1268 01:06:18.422 --> 01:06:21.255 I know that we're not rich right now! 1269 01:06:21.339 --> 01:06:24.047 I was too busy having a lot of fun, 1270 01:06:24.130 --> 01:06:27.255 and I just let the others write the songs. 1271 01:06:27.339 --> 01:06:29.923 Gina would say to me, "This is not fair," 1272 01:06:30.005 --> 01:06:34.339 and, you know, and I would say, "I know it's not fair," 1273 01:06:34.422 --> 01:06:36.923 but I felt like inside 1274 01:06:37.005 --> 01:06:39.089 like I really had no right to say anything 1275 01:06:39.172 --> 01:06:41.172 because I was such a fuck-up. 1276 01:06:43.172 --> 01:06:46.589 What scared me was an unhappy lead singer, 1277 01:06:46.673 --> 01:06:50.047 who pretty much made the band into contenders, 1278 01:06:50.130 --> 01:06:53.964 feeling cheated and unappreciated. 1279 01:06:54.047 --> 01:06:55.964 It set up a vibe 1280 01:06:56.047 --> 01:07:00.547 where I started feeling very concerned about our future. 1281 01:07:02.589 --> 01:07:05.172 And it's like, are you fucking kidding me? 1282 01:07:05.255 --> 01:07:08.964 Now, we're already having this be a problem? 1283 01:07:09.047 --> 01:07:11.172 The fighting and the real drugs 1284 01:07:11.255 --> 01:07:15.881 happen when we all get money, you know. 1285 01:07:15.964 --> 01:07:17.923 It wrecks everything. 1286 01:07:19.839 --> 01:07:24.547 ♪ Walking around it's clear that I'm worlds away ♪ 1287 01:07:24.631 --> 01:07:28.631 Charlotte was isolating quite a bit. 1288 01:07:28.714 --> 01:07:30.589 I spend a lot of time here. 1289 01:07:30.673 --> 01:07:31.881 I don't go out that often, 1290 01:07:32.005 --> 01:07:34.297 because I like it here a lot in my house. 1291 01:07:34.381 --> 01:07:38.339 I bought a house up in the hills and I was by myself. 1292 01:07:38.422 --> 01:07:40.673 It was a bad situation. 1293 01:07:40.756 --> 01:07:43.089 I was suffering, 1294 01:07:43.172 --> 01:07:46.798 and I didn't know who to talk to or what to do. 1295 01:07:46.881 --> 01:07:48.798 No, we're just like sisters 1296 01:07:48.881 --> 01:07:51.756 and we're all looking out for, you know, 1297 01:07:51.839 --> 01:07:54.339 each other all the time, 1298 01:07:54.422 --> 01:07:57.172 and we all love each other very much. 1299 01:07:58.255 --> 01:08:01.172 We didn't communicate, and then when we did communicate 1300 01:08:01.255 --> 01:08:03.881 we didn't do it in a loving, sort of respectful way. 1301 01:08:03.964 --> 01:08:08.422 By 1984, things were getting pretty frazzled with us. 1302 01:08:08.506 --> 01:08:12.798 We'd still really never had been given enough time to write 1303 01:08:12.881 --> 01:08:14.381 or recuperate or anything. 1304 01:08:14.464 --> 01:08:16.339 So, it was very tense. 1305 01:08:16.422 --> 01:08:20.047 Being in a band, you become each other's best friends 1306 01:08:20.130 --> 01:08:22.381 and also each other's worst enemies. 1307 01:08:23.464 --> 01:08:26.881 It became a difficult place to be 1308 01:08:26.964 --> 01:08:29.381 because I always wanted to put out fires. 1309 01:08:30.631 --> 01:08:34.297 Somebody's not happy, you know, fix this, fix, fix, fix, 1310 01:08:34.381 --> 01:08:37.255 you know, and have fun. 1311 01:08:37.339 --> 01:08:39.756 No matter how miserable everyone is, have fun. 1312 01:08:47.464 --> 01:08:49.881 This is when we first got to England, 1313 01:08:49.964 --> 01:08:51.756 making the third record. 1314 01:08:51.839 --> 01:08:54.631 And this was the clown family. 1315 01:08:54.714 --> 01:08:57.339 We had something called the clown family 1316 01:08:57.422 --> 01:09:00.673 where everybody posed the same way and put on a clown nose. 1317 01:09:01.881 --> 01:09:04.673 This is the clown family watching TV. 1318 01:09:08.339 --> 01:09:11.923 And here's the clown family doing some blow, 1319 01:09:12.005 --> 01:09:14.422 upon arrival in London. 1320 01:09:20.631 --> 01:09:24.255 The ultimate is the clown family giving birth to another clown. 1321 01:09:24.339 --> 01:09:27.923 Except Jane was the other clown. 1322 01:09:28.005 --> 01:09:30.339 Every single person birthed Jane. 1323 01:09:32.089 --> 01:09:35.381 ♪ Like an old movie backdrop ♪ 1324 01:09:37.422 --> 01:09:40.214 ♪ The radio's blasting ♪ 1325 01:09:40.297 --> 01:09:42.839 We still managed to have a lot of fun, 1326 01:09:42.923 --> 01:09:45.464 despite what might have been going on. 1327 01:09:45.547 --> 01:09:50.297 ♪ She says "I just wanted to make you" ♪ 1328 01:09:50.381 --> 01:09:54.714 ♪ "I never meant to break you" 1329 01:09:54.798 --> 01:09:58.547 ♪ He says "Have some mercy on me" ♪ 1330 01:10:01.297 --> 01:10:06.130 ♪ "Do you have to be such a mercenary?" ♪ 1331 01:10:10.798 --> 01:10:12.172 I went into the studio 1332 01:10:12.255 --> 01:10:14.422 when they were recording the third album. 1333 01:10:14.506 --> 01:10:17.297 There was a famous scene of one of the members vomiting on me, 1334 01:10:17.381 --> 01:10:19.506 you know, she'd had too much to drink. 1335 01:10:19.589 --> 01:10:21.172 I won't mention who, 1336 01:10:21.255 --> 01:10:24.339 but I was covered in vomit in the studio. 1337 01:10:24.422 --> 01:10:26.089 So, I knew stuff was going on. 1338 01:10:26.172 --> 01:10:28.381 Good evening, I'm Charlotte. 1339 01:10:28.464 --> 01:10:31.339 -Good evening, I'm Gina. -Good evening, I'm Jane. 1340 01:10:31.422 --> 01:10:33.255 -I'm Kathy. -Good evening, I'm Belinda, 1341 01:10:33.339 --> 01:10:36.005 -I'm The Go-Go's. -She's not! No, I'm The Go-Go's. 1342 01:10:36.089 --> 01:10:38.506 -I'm The Go-Go's. -No, we're all The Go-Go's. 1343 01:10:38.589 --> 01:10:40.422 Well, anyway... 1344 01:10:40.506 --> 01:10:43.756 We'd started writing songs for the third record, 1345 01:10:43.839 --> 01:10:48.089 but Charlotte hit a bit of a writing block. 1346 01:10:48.172 --> 01:10:52.089 It got harder to write, actually, it prevented me. 1347 01:10:52.172 --> 01:10:53.631 I was really writing a lot, 1348 01:10:53.714 --> 01:10:57.589 because Charlotte was in a lot of trouble with the drugs. 1349 01:10:57.673 --> 01:11:02.214 ♪ When it goes dark, forget the night ♪ 1350 01:11:03.339 --> 01:11:06.589 There are people that really loved that album, 1351 01:11:06.673 --> 01:11:08.714 but I can't even listen to it 1352 01:11:08.798 --> 01:11:13.464 because to me I was so miserable during that time, oh, my God. 1353 01:11:14.506 --> 01:11:17.130 ♪ When it goes dark ♪ 1354 01:11:17.214 --> 01:11:19.339 ♪ Get me to bed ♪ 1355 01:11:19.422 --> 01:11:22.047 On that trip, there was an implosion. 1356 01:11:22.130 --> 01:11:23.631 Jane got really upset. 1357 01:11:23.714 --> 01:11:26.214 ♪ Wait for the light of day ♪ 1358 01:11:26.297 --> 01:11:28.964 I think she felt frustrated probably with me 1359 01:11:29.047 --> 01:11:31.172 and with wanting to have a bigger role. 1360 01:11:31.255 --> 01:11:32.923 ♪ I'm the only one you run to ♪ 1361 01:11:33.005 --> 01:11:34.798 ♪ The one you come to ♪ 1362 01:11:34.881 --> 01:11:36.589 ♪ The only one you can get to ♪ 1363 01:11:36.673 --> 01:11:39.089 ♪ I'm the only one for you ♪ 1364 01:11:39.172 --> 01:11:41.964 -♪ I'm the only one ♪ -♪ Only one for you ♪ 1365 01:11:42.047 --> 01:11:45.422 -♪ I'm the only one ♪ -♪ Only one for you ♪ 1366 01:11:45.506 --> 01:11:48.589 -♪ I'm the only one ♪ -♪ Only one for you ♪ 1367 01:11:48.673 --> 01:11:50.214 ♪ I'm the only one ♪ 1368 01:11:50.297 --> 01:11:52.089 When we were recording the album, 1369 01:11:52.172 --> 01:11:55.089 I had decided that I wanted to sing one song on the record, 1370 01:11:55.172 --> 01:11:56.923 and there was one song that I'd written 1371 01:11:57.005 --> 01:11:59.839 that was super personal to me called "Forget That Day." 1372 01:11:59.923 --> 01:12:01.756 Then, I went to each girl and was like, 1373 01:12:01.839 --> 01:12:03.923 "Please, can I sing this one song?" 1374 01:12:04.005 --> 01:12:07.214 ♪ I remember that day ♪ 1375 01:12:07.297 --> 01:12:10.756 ♪ Wind pushing birds around ♪ 1376 01:12:10.839 --> 01:12:14.714 She came to us and we just said, "No." 1377 01:12:14.798 --> 01:12:18.214 Belinda was the lead singer, it just felt weird. 1378 01:12:18.297 --> 01:12:20.923 We decided that that wasn't the way to go, 1379 01:12:21.005 --> 01:12:24.464 that we wanted to keep everybody had their role within the band, 1380 01:12:24.547 --> 01:12:26.297 and that was the way it was going to be. 1381 01:12:26.381 --> 01:12:28.005 I don't really like to talk about that, 1382 01:12:28.089 --> 01:12:32.464 because it wasn't like a unanimous thing in this band. 1383 01:12:32.547 --> 01:12:33.964 One of them said, 1384 01:12:34.047 --> 01:12:36.964 "What makes you think you're good enough to sing a song?" 1385 01:12:37.047 --> 01:12:40.047 Which is something I'll never forget hearing. 1386 01:12:40.130 --> 01:12:41.798 It was a huge betrayal, 1387 01:12:41.881 --> 01:12:44.464 and I did not know how to get past it. 1388 01:12:44.547 --> 01:12:46.422 ♪ I lost my heart ♪ 1389 01:12:46.506 --> 01:12:50.172 ♪ But I just said I hate heights ♪ 1390 01:12:50.255 --> 01:12:52.089 It never occurred to any of us 1391 01:12:52.172 --> 01:12:55.756 that we have to sit down and how can we make this work? 1392 01:12:56.798 --> 01:13:00.172 But, no, nothing could change, nobody could grow. 1393 01:13:00.255 --> 01:13:01.964 And I was part of it, too. 1394 01:13:02.047 --> 01:13:04.464 ♪ I left to get some work done ♪ 1395 01:13:04.547 --> 01:13:09.339 We made Belinda feel guilty for being a star and a diva. 1396 01:13:11.923 --> 01:13:16.673 We made Jane feel like what she wanted and needed 1397 01:13:16.756 --> 01:13:20.172 was not important enough for us to even sit down and talk about. 1398 01:13:21.506 --> 01:13:24.798 We made Gina feel like what she contributed wasn't enough. 1399 01:13:24.881 --> 01:13:27.172 You don't deserve to make as much. 1400 01:13:27.255 --> 01:13:30.172 ♪ Why'd you say you love me ♪ 1401 01:13:30.255 --> 01:13:32.756 And we couldn't see the pain 1402 01:13:32.839 --> 01:13:36.214 that Charlotte was walking around in. 1403 01:13:36.297 --> 01:13:38.589 ♪ Try to forget that day ♪ 1404 01:13:46.381 --> 01:13:48.214 I was always an optimist 1405 01:13:48.297 --> 01:13:51.297 hoping that we would keep the things together. 1406 01:13:51.381 --> 01:13:54.547 I don't know that they recognized then, 1407 01:13:54.631 --> 01:13:58.172 and after the third album, what they really had together. 1408 01:13:59.714 --> 01:14:02.381 ♪ Head over heels, where should I go ♪ 1409 01:14:02.464 --> 01:14:04.798 "Head Over Heels", we made a video, 1410 01:14:04.881 --> 01:14:07.881 it got released as a single. 1411 01:14:07.964 --> 01:14:10.589 The tour machine's picking up. 1412 01:14:10.673 --> 01:14:12.714 ♪ ...out of sync ♪ 1413 01:14:16.589 --> 01:14:18.881 We were getting ready to tour for the third record. 1414 01:14:18.964 --> 01:14:20.798 We were at rehearsal and a call came in, 1415 01:14:20.881 --> 01:14:23.214 it was like, "Gina, your doctor's on the phone." 1416 01:14:23.297 --> 01:14:25.839 I was like... We all sort of stopped, like, what is this? 1417 01:14:25.923 --> 01:14:29.172 Gina had always been like coming off stage, "I can't breathe," 1418 01:14:29.255 --> 01:14:31.798 and we'd be like, "Oh, my God, she's such a drama queen," 1419 01:14:31.881 --> 01:14:35.923 like, no, absolutely like no sympathy whatsoever for her. 1420 01:14:36.005 --> 01:14:37.255 Now what? 1421 01:14:37.339 --> 01:14:41.422 Because she has been seeing this doctor and that doctor 1422 01:14:41.506 --> 01:14:43.381 and we're just like, "Oh, come on." 1423 01:14:43.464 --> 01:14:45.339 But as it turns out she couldn't breathe 1424 01:14:45.422 --> 01:14:46.798 because she had a hole in her heart 1425 01:14:46.881 --> 01:14:49.756 and she wasn't getting enough oxygen. Yeah, so... our bad. 1426 01:14:49.839 --> 01:14:52.172 Gina was diagnosed with a hole in her heart. 1427 01:14:52.255 --> 01:14:53.798 She was going to have surgery. 1428 01:14:53.881 --> 01:14:55.464 Heart surgery, what the fuck? 1429 01:14:55.547 --> 01:14:56.631 It was a little scary, 1430 01:14:56.714 --> 01:14:59.130 but we dealt with it with a lot of, like, humor. 1431 01:14:59.214 --> 01:15:01.714 Our humor was, you know, 1432 01:15:01.798 --> 01:15:04.673 always gallows dark. 1433 01:15:04.756 --> 01:15:07.923 So, we decided to have this final lost weekend 1434 01:15:08.005 --> 01:15:11.130 in Palm Springs together just in case Gina croaked. 1435 01:15:11.214 --> 01:15:13.631 They were taking me out on my last hurrah. 1436 01:15:16.923 --> 01:15:20.798 We rented I think a convertible Jag and a convertible Cadillac. 1437 01:15:20.881 --> 01:15:24.631 Let's buy a bunch of drugs and go out to the desert. 1438 01:15:24.714 --> 01:15:26.964 We had just like a shit ton of drugs 1439 01:15:27.047 --> 01:15:29.589 and we're driving into Palm Springs 1440 01:15:29.673 --> 01:15:31.047 going 100 miles an hour. 1441 01:15:35.214 --> 01:15:37.255 It was a total weekend of debauchery 1442 01:15:37.339 --> 01:15:41.297 and drugs and drinking. 1443 01:15:41.381 --> 01:15:44.297 ♪ Sex ♪ 1444 01:15:46.964 --> 01:15:48.631 And we had a special rule 1445 01:15:48.714 --> 01:15:50.631 that Gina was not allowed to do cocaine, 1446 01:15:50.714 --> 01:15:53.047 she can only do booze, Valium and mushrooms, 1447 01:15:53.130 --> 01:15:54.798 so you know, we were keeping her safe! 1448 01:15:54.881 --> 01:15:58.047 Because they didn't want me to have a heart attack. 1449 01:16:10.506 --> 01:16:13.506 It did bring the band together temporarily. 1450 01:16:13.589 --> 01:16:16.756 It's funny how you can feel so isolated 1451 01:16:16.839 --> 01:16:18.839 from people in the band, 1452 01:16:18.923 --> 01:16:22.923 and then in a minute, in a second, you're family again. 1453 01:16:24.005 --> 01:16:26.798 We were really at odds, and when I had that surgery 1454 01:16:26.881 --> 01:16:30.547 everybody sort of came together for a while there. 1455 01:16:30.631 --> 01:16:33.005 We've gotten a lot of calls and letters 1456 01:16:33.089 --> 01:16:34.714 and your fans are real concerned. 1457 01:16:34.798 --> 01:16:37.255 If you could just give us an update on your health? 1458 01:16:37.339 --> 01:16:38.631 I'm fine. My heart is better. 1459 01:16:38.714 --> 01:16:40.673 My doctor told me I can do anything I like. 1460 01:16:40.756 --> 01:16:44.089 I can't wait to get out on tour because I'm bored to death. 1461 01:16:45.881 --> 01:16:48.047 Well, I do want to talk about the tour. 1462 01:16:48.130 --> 01:16:50.714 What kind of tour sponsorship are you considering? 1463 01:16:50.798 --> 01:16:53.255 Before the album was released, that's kind of 1464 01:16:53.339 --> 01:16:55.964 when the publishing thing really came to a head. 1465 01:16:56.047 --> 01:16:57.381 We were called to a meeting 1466 01:16:57.464 --> 01:16:59.506 at the crappy management's office, 1467 01:16:59.589 --> 01:17:03.214 and it was stated all the publishing 1468 01:17:03.297 --> 01:17:04.673 needs to be split equally. 1469 01:17:04.756 --> 01:17:07.381 And then, I said, "Well, wait a minute, 1470 01:17:07.464 --> 01:17:09.381 "this album is totally done. 1471 01:17:09.464 --> 01:17:12.422 "I totally agree to do that for the next album, 1472 01:17:12.506 --> 01:17:14.214 "but I'm not doing it for this album, 1473 01:17:14.297 --> 01:17:16.089 because I fucking worked my ass off." 1474 01:17:16.172 --> 01:17:18.422 And they're like, "Nope, you gotta do it." 1475 01:17:18.506 --> 01:17:19.547 I'm like, "I won't do it." 1476 01:17:19.631 --> 01:17:21.381 "You've gotta do it." "I won't do it." 1477 01:17:21.464 --> 01:17:23.506 And then, I just said, "Fuck you, I quit." 1478 01:17:23.589 --> 01:17:25.214 And that's when I quit the band. 1479 01:17:26.255 --> 01:17:28.881 But, of course, I couldn't leave the band yet 1480 01:17:28.964 --> 01:17:31.255 because we had a whole, huge tour planned 1481 01:17:31.339 --> 01:17:32.631 to support the new album. 1482 01:17:32.714 --> 01:17:34.923 She told us that she was, after the tour for 1483 01:17:35.005 --> 01:17:36.798 Talk Show she was going to leave. 1484 01:17:36.881 --> 01:17:40.422 You guys have been together now for quite a while. 1485 01:17:40.506 --> 01:17:43.756 Do you still all just get along as friends? 1486 01:17:43.839 --> 01:17:45.631 Argh! 1487 01:17:45.714 --> 01:17:47.422 There would be a lot of questions 1488 01:17:47.506 --> 01:17:50.255 about what our relationship with each other was like. 1489 01:17:50.339 --> 01:17:53.214 "Oh, we love each other. We're like sisters." 1490 01:17:53.297 --> 01:17:56.589 Yeah, like sisters that fucking stab each other in the back. 1491 01:18:07.756 --> 01:18:09.798 It was a little toxic, shall we say. 1492 01:18:11.005 --> 01:18:13.089 ♪ But I know what you're doing ♪ 1493 01:18:13.172 --> 01:18:16.381 But the machine, Go-Go machine, had to keep going. 1494 01:18:16.464 --> 01:18:18.923 ♪ Falling to ruin ♪ 1495 01:18:19.005 --> 01:18:21.589 ♪ You got your walls so high ♪ 1496 01:18:21.673 --> 01:18:24.089 Things were really coming apart. 1497 01:18:24.172 --> 01:18:27.297 ♪ There may be some explanation ♪ 1498 01:18:27.381 --> 01:18:31.130 This band is everything to me. 1499 01:18:31.214 --> 01:18:36.255 My driving focus was to keep that shit together. 1500 01:18:36.339 --> 01:18:39.047 ♪ I just want to turn to you ♪ 1501 01:18:39.130 --> 01:18:41.214 -♪ Come on let me turn to you ♪ -♪ Turn to you ♪ 1502 01:18:41.297 --> 01:18:42.881 ♪ Turn to you ♪ 1503 01:18:42.964 --> 01:18:45.923 There was a lot of crap going on, 1504 01:18:46.005 --> 01:18:50.673 and it felt like the dream of The Go-Go's was slipping away 1505 01:18:50.756 --> 01:18:54.464 and, of course, I more so felt like my life was slipping away. 1506 01:18:56.547 --> 01:18:58.923 ♪ It has a lot to do ♪ 1507 01:18:59.005 --> 01:19:00.839 There were definitely times 1508 01:19:00.923 --> 01:19:04.673 when you really had to fake it to get through it. 1509 01:19:04.756 --> 01:19:07.881 We had this whole thing that we called robo Go-Go-ing, 1510 01:19:07.964 --> 01:19:10.589 where you would just get out there on stage 1511 01:19:10.673 --> 01:19:12.422 and no one would fucking know 1512 01:19:12.506 --> 01:19:14.964 that you had just had a screaming fight backstage. 1513 01:19:15.047 --> 01:19:18.339 You would just get out there and be like, robo Go-Go! 1514 01:19:18.422 --> 01:19:21.255 ♪ I want to turn to you ♪ 1515 01:19:21.339 --> 01:19:23.881 ♪ Come on, let me turn to you ♪ 1516 01:19:23.964 --> 01:19:25.964 ♪ Please let me turn to you ♪ 1517 01:19:26.047 --> 01:19:27.422 During the tour, 1518 01:19:27.506 --> 01:19:30.381 Jane announced that she was leaving, which I didn't believe. 1519 01:19:30.464 --> 01:19:34.381 And then, sure enough she did and it was really devastating. 1520 01:19:36.673 --> 01:19:38.714 I felt completely betrayed. 1521 01:19:38.798 --> 01:19:40.422 I felt like... 1522 01:19:40.506 --> 01:19:44.005 she was breaking up something that was so precious. 1523 01:19:44.089 --> 01:19:46.214 We knew we were in trouble then, 1524 01:19:46.297 --> 01:19:49.089 because, I mean, she's an original member, 1525 01:19:49.172 --> 01:19:51.714 she's a key songwriter, and she's irreplaceable. 1526 01:19:51.798 --> 01:19:53.839 It was like a hatchet had come and just... 1527 01:19:53.923 --> 01:19:56.130 it was never going to be the same after that. 1528 01:19:56.214 --> 01:19:59.798 That was it, really, a piece of the puzzle was missing. 1529 01:20:02.089 --> 01:20:06.547 I felt like the rat that had, you know, left the sinking ship. 1530 01:20:08.047 --> 01:20:12.047 The Go-Go's as a unit worked. 1531 01:20:12.130 --> 01:20:15.255 And you take out a piece, is the picture complete? 1532 01:20:16.631 --> 01:20:17.881 Maybe not. 1533 01:20:19.964 --> 01:20:23.589 I just thought this could be the end of everything. 1534 01:20:23.673 --> 01:20:27.464 All I was, I was a Go-Go, that was all. 1535 01:20:27.547 --> 01:20:31.589 That meant I could take care of my mom. 1536 01:20:31.673 --> 01:20:34.422 By this time, I'm supporting my mom. 1537 01:20:34.506 --> 01:20:36.631 It's easier to find a bass player 1538 01:20:36.714 --> 01:20:38.255 than it is a guitar player. 1539 01:20:38.339 --> 01:20:40.506 I'll play guitar, we'll get a bass player. 1540 01:20:40.589 --> 01:20:43.047 Hundreds of girls wanted to be in The Go-Go's. 1541 01:20:43.130 --> 01:20:44.714 Big surprise. 1542 01:20:46.047 --> 01:20:48.547 I really wanted Paula Jean, 1543 01:20:48.631 --> 01:20:51.297 and the other girls weren't really agreeing with me, 1544 01:20:51.381 --> 01:20:53.214 but for some reason they acquiesced, 1545 01:20:53.297 --> 01:20:56.047 and Paula Jean became our bass player. 1546 01:20:57.297 --> 01:20:59.964 I felt like Dorothy walking into Oz, 1547 01:21:00.047 --> 01:21:02.589 because they were all so much shorter than me. 1548 01:21:02.673 --> 01:21:05.631 I knew before I auditioned that the band was having problems 1549 01:21:05.714 --> 01:21:07.005 because Jane quit the band, 1550 01:21:07.089 --> 01:21:09.464 and I had read enough and followed them enough 1551 01:21:09.547 --> 01:21:14.130 to know that things weren't going great interpersonally. 1552 01:21:15.214 --> 01:21:17.798 So, we started rehearsing with Paula Jean, 1553 01:21:17.881 --> 01:21:19.798 getting ready to go to Rio. 1554 01:21:19.881 --> 01:21:21.923 We're playing the biggest show of our life. 1555 01:21:22.005 --> 01:21:25.631 It's the Rock in Rio festival. 1556 01:21:25.714 --> 01:21:27.130 Belinda! 1557 01:21:27.214 --> 01:21:30.005 What are your expectations towards the festival? 1558 01:21:30.089 --> 01:21:31.964 Should be a lot of fun. 1559 01:21:33.339 --> 01:21:36.673 I could tell that the joy of them playing together 1560 01:21:36.756 --> 01:21:39.506 was not what it probably once was. 1561 01:21:39.589 --> 01:21:43.881 It felt to me like they were all trying to muster it 1562 01:21:43.964 --> 01:21:46.089 for the occasion. 1563 01:21:46.923 --> 01:21:48.047 In Rio, 1564 01:21:48.130 --> 01:21:50.339 this is the height of everybody's drug intake. 1565 01:21:50.422 --> 01:21:53.172 People driving around in cabs searching for coke all night. 1566 01:21:53.255 --> 01:21:56.089 I didn't sleep for, like, a week. 1567 01:21:58.339 --> 01:22:00.923 I'm supposed to go to sound check 1568 01:22:01.005 --> 01:22:03.047 and I went out to cop some dope. 1569 01:22:03.130 --> 01:22:05.506 I was late, and I had to make up a big lie, 1570 01:22:05.589 --> 01:22:07.381 and that's another thing with drugs, 1571 01:22:07.464 --> 01:22:11.005 like, you become a big liar. 1572 01:22:11.089 --> 01:22:13.089 Charlotte was so out of control 1573 01:22:13.172 --> 01:22:15.714 that Ozzy Osbourne threw her out of his dressing room. 1574 01:22:15.798 --> 01:22:17.297 Now that's pretty fucking bad. 1575 01:22:17.381 --> 01:22:20.005 ♪ Head over heels, where should I go ♪ 1576 01:22:20.089 --> 01:22:23.464 ♪ Can't stop myself, outta control ♪ 1577 01:22:23.547 --> 01:22:25.547 ♪ Head over heels, no time to think ♪ 1578 01:22:25.631 --> 01:22:28.839 ♪ Looks like the whole world's out of sync ♪ 1579 01:22:31.506 --> 01:22:33.381 The Go-Go's were a family, 1580 01:22:33.464 --> 01:22:35.464 and, you know, I think that Gina and Kathy 1581 01:22:35.547 --> 01:22:38.798 kind of had become the caretakers in a way, 1582 01:22:38.881 --> 01:22:40.714 trying to hold it together. 1583 01:22:43.881 --> 01:22:48.005 Charlotte was there, but you could tell just not there. 1584 01:22:50.381 --> 01:22:54.089 It was just getting to be where it was unsustainable. 1585 01:22:58.589 --> 01:23:00.130 Paula goes, 1586 01:23:00.214 --> 01:23:04.047 "You guys, Charlotte's really in trouble." 1587 01:23:04.130 --> 01:23:06.422 What? 1588 01:23:06.506 --> 01:23:07.923 New girl says what? 1589 01:23:08.005 --> 01:23:11.172 I said, "I just really feel like she's going to die." 1590 01:23:12.881 --> 01:23:15.422 Paula came to me one day and said, you know, 1591 01:23:15.506 --> 01:23:18.923 "Charlotte, I know a place where you can go to get some help." 1592 01:23:19.005 --> 01:23:20.839 And I said, "What are you talking about?" 1593 01:23:20.923 --> 01:23:23.130 She told me about, you know, 1594 01:23:23.214 --> 01:23:28.089 a recovery hospital, you know, for addicts. 1595 01:23:29.172 --> 01:23:32.798 And then, something shifted in me. 1596 01:23:32.881 --> 01:23:34.422 I went back to Los Angeles 1597 01:23:34.506 --> 01:23:38.506 and I checked myself into rehab with Paula's help. 1598 01:23:38.589 --> 01:23:42.631 I'm not saying it was easy, but I was dedicated. 1599 01:23:42.714 --> 01:23:46.130 And I'm forever grateful to her for giving me that information, 1600 01:23:46.214 --> 01:23:50.255 because it totally changed my life and saved me. 1601 01:23:54.005 --> 01:23:56.673 When I got sober, it was so amazing 1602 01:23:56.756 --> 01:24:01.589 to be free of that prison that I was living in. 1603 01:24:02.464 --> 01:24:06.839 As dedicated as I was to my band, 1604 01:24:06.923 --> 01:24:09.839 I was dedicated to myself. 1605 01:24:09.923 --> 01:24:12.673 When we started rehearsing again for the fourth album, 1606 01:24:12.756 --> 01:24:16.172 I made the decision to choose myself over the band. 1607 01:24:16.255 --> 01:24:18.673 It just wasn't working, it wasn't going to work. 1608 01:24:18.756 --> 01:24:21.673 Paula was great, but she wasn't Jane. 1609 01:24:21.756 --> 01:24:24.839 The only decent song that came out of it was "Mad About You." 1610 01:24:24.923 --> 01:24:26.839 They really liked "Mad About You." 1611 01:24:26.923 --> 01:24:29.964 It's a song that Paula wrote for our band. 1612 01:24:30.047 --> 01:24:34.047 The relationships were just disintegrating in the band. 1613 01:24:34.130 --> 01:24:38.297 Charlotte and I discussed ending the band. 1614 01:24:41.089 --> 01:24:43.339 Gina and I are feeling more and more 1615 01:24:43.422 --> 01:24:45.881 like Charlotte and Belinda are on one side, 1616 01:24:45.964 --> 01:24:48.756 and me and Gina are on the other side. 1617 01:24:51.130 --> 01:24:53.506 Her and Belinda called Kathy and myself 1618 01:24:53.589 --> 01:24:55.089 into management's office. 1619 01:24:55.172 --> 01:24:57.881 I was like, "This is not good." 1620 01:24:57.964 --> 01:24:59.297 It's not good. 1621 01:24:59.381 --> 01:25:02.714 Even now, I can't. Remembering this makes me feel ill. 1622 01:25:02.798 --> 01:25:05.047 "We've decided to break up the band," 1623 01:25:05.130 --> 01:25:06.631 that was the first thing. 1624 01:25:06.714 --> 01:25:08.714 And Gina and I said, "You can't. 1625 01:25:08.798 --> 01:25:11.547 You can't do that, it's our band too." 1626 01:25:11.631 --> 01:25:13.798 "Yes, we can." 1627 01:25:14.798 --> 01:25:16.964 Somebody said, 1628 01:25:17.047 --> 01:25:20.464 "She writes the hits and I am the voice." 1629 01:25:20.547 --> 01:25:23.297 "She's the voice and I write the hits." 1630 01:25:25.089 --> 01:25:28.381 And Kathy and I were fucking flabbergasted. 1631 01:25:28.464 --> 01:25:32.631 They completely freaked out, completely freaked out. 1632 01:25:32.714 --> 01:25:35.130 There was a lot of crying and screaming. 1633 01:25:35.214 --> 01:25:36.923 I definitely raged, 1634 01:25:37.005 --> 01:25:39.714 and then, I dialed back the rage 1635 01:25:39.798 --> 01:25:42.964 and groveled, apologizing. 1636 01:25:43.047 --> 01:25:46.589 I... I wanted to kill both of them. 1637 01:25:46.673 --> 01:25:48.589 I really did. 1638 01:25:48.673 --> 01:25:50.214 After all we'd been through, 1639 01:25:50.297 --> 01:25:52.923 how could you fucking dare say that to me? 1640 01:25:53.005 --> 01:25:56.130 I won't survive this if I stay here 1641 01:25:56.214 --> 01:25:59.089 and I cannot risk using and drinking again, 1642 01:25:59.172 --> 01:26:00.422 I cannot risk that. 1643 01:26:00.506 --> 01:26:04.297 What was horrible was like going home from that meeting 1644 01:26:04.381 --> 01:26:05.923 just shattered. 1645 01:26:06.005 --> 01:26:07.923 And then, the phone rings 1646 01:26:08.005 --> 01:26:11.547 and it's the guy from the management company 1647 01:26:11.631 --> 01:26:15.422 and my heart just, like, "Ah, they've changed their mind!" 1648 01:26:16.297 --> 01:26:17.756 And instead he goes, 1649 01:26:17.839 --> 01:26:20.214 "You're going to get a call from The L.A. Times 1650 01:26:20.297 --> 01:26:23.172 to make a comment about the band breaking up." 1651 01:26:23.255 --> 01:26:26.297 It's like, "What, are you fucking kidding me?" 1652 01:26:26.381 --> 01:26:28.964 You know, it's been an hour. 1653 01:26:32.422 --> 01:26:35.297 Within months of me leaving the band ended up breaking up, 1654 01:26:35.381 --> 01:26:37.589 and I certainly wasn't happy about it, 1655 01:26:37.673 --> 01:26:39.464 but I also wasn't surprised either. 1656 01:26:39.547 --> 01:26:41.798 We didn't speak to each other 1657 01:26:41.881 --> 01:26:44.130 for five years after that. 1658 01:26:44.214 --> 01:26:47.130 Gina and Kathy, I didn't speak to. 1659 01:26:47.214 --> 01:26:49.798 Jane was off doing her solo record. 1660 01:26:49.881 --> 01:26:52.297 I felt the need to try something new. 1661 01:26:52.381 --> 01:26:55.714 I was also interested in singing my own material. 1662 01:27:04.839 --> 01:27:06.839 I was used to being a big star, 1663 01:27:06.923 --> 01:27:09.673 and all of a sudden it was like, "She sucks!" 1664 01:27:09.756 --> 01:27:12.673 I hated it so much and I was just so mad, 1665 01:27:12.756 --> 01:27:17.547 but now honestly, I really feel like the person I am today 1666 01:27:17.631 --> 01:27:21.130 would not exist without all the failure I went through, 1667 01:27:21.214 --> 01:27:25.673 and all the success I ever had never taught me one damn thing. 1668 01:27:25.756 --> 01:27:26.673 Never. 1669 01:27:28.422 --> 01:27:33.506 I tried so hard to create another band 1670 01:27:33.589 --> 01:27:38.381 with the chemistry and the magic that The Go-Go's had, 1671 01:27:38.464 --> 01:27:42.130 and nothing I did seemed to work out. 1672 01:27:42.214 --> 01:27:43.506 I tried being a singer. 1673 01:27:43.589 --> 01:27:45.589 I never wanted to be a singer, but I tried it. 1674 01:27:45.673 --> 01:27:47.172 I couldn't be a studio player 1675 01:27:47.255 --> 01:27:49.047 because I didn't know how to read music 1676 01:27:49.130 --> 01:27:50.506 and that wasn't my thing. 1677 01:27:50.589 --> 01:27:53.673 And so, I went out and tried to get a solo deal. 1678 01:27:53.756 --> 01:27:56.881 I did one show at the Roxy and got signed by Capitol Records, 1679 01:27:56.964 --> 01:27:59.214 which was great for a while. 1680 01:27:59.297 --> 01:28:01.005 And then after a few years, 1681 01:28:01.089 --> 01:28:04.089 it was almost like The Go-Go's didn't even exist anymore. 1682 01:28:04.172 --> 01:28:06.381 It was only like, Belinda! 1683 01:28:06.464 --> 01:28:08.381 When The Go-Go's split up 1684 01:28:08.464 --> 01:28:10.464 I guess everybody went their separate ways, 1685 01:28:10.547 --> 01:28:13.047 but you're the only one who really hit it big. 1686 01:28:13.130 --> 01:28:14.839 Why do you think that's the case? 1687 01:28:14.923 --> 01:28:17.214 Well, I think I definitely had a head start 1688 01:28:17.297 --> 01:28:18.714 as being the focus of the band, 1689 01:28:18.798 --> 01:28:20.798 which, you know, people do tend to focus 1690 01:28:20.881 --> 01:28:22.798 on the lead singer of any band. 1691 01:28:22.881 --> 01:28:26.631 And, you know, that did give me some advantages. 1692 01:28:26.714 --> 01:28:28.714 Belinda offered me a job. 1693 01:28:28.798 --> 01:28:32.089 She said, "Do you wanna tour with me and write on my record?" 1694 01:28:32.172 --> 01:28:33.506 I was so grateful to her, 1695 01:28:33.589 --> 01:28:36.255 because that was still at that place in my life 1696 01:28:36.339 --> 01:28:39.255 where that was my identity, doing that, 1697 01:28:39.339 --> 01:28:43.297 and just beginning to find out that that wasn't who-- 1698 01:28:43.381 --> 01:28:46.297 that wasn't the totality of who I am. 1699 01:28:46.381 --> 01:28:49.673 So, she gave me that bridge. 1700 01:28:50.964 --> 01:28:52.381 As they went on, 1701 01:28:52.464 --> 01:28:54.547 Charlotte was working with Belinda. 1702 01:28:54.631 --> 01:28:56.339 Jane is back in the fold. 1703 01:28:56.422 --> 01:28:57.839 Now, all of a sudden, it's like, 1704 01:28:57.923 --> 01:28:59.964 the three of them are doing shit for Belinda. 1705 01:29:00.047 --> 01:29:03.923 I started feeling like it was a vendetta against me and Gina. 1706 01:29:04.005 --> 01:29:08.047 It was... it was horrible. 1707 01:29:10.089 --> 01:29:12.381 I just wanted to write and play drums. 1708 01:29:12.464 --> 01:29:14.964 I've written stuff for other people. 1709 01:29:15.047 --> 01:29:17.297 I had a song covered by Miley Cyrus, 1710 01:29:17.381 --> 01:29:19.464 and then four songs by Selena Gomez, 1711 01:29:19.547 --> 01:29:22.673 so I felt like, "Yeah, finally getting what I deserve." 1712 01:29:24.381 --> 01:29:26.464 I've always known I had a book in me... 1713 01:29:26.547 --> 01:29:27.631 When I turned 40, 1714 01:29:27.714 --> 01:29:30.506 I was dropped by my record company as a solo artist, 1715 01:29:30.589 --> 01:29:33.297 and that was actually the beginning of, like, 1716 01:29:33.381 --> 01:29:35.631 soul searching and what is this all about? 1717 01:29:35.714 --> 01:29:37.339 What were The Go-Go's all about? 1718 01:29:37.422 --> 01:29:38.839 Who am I? 1719 01:29:38.923 --> 01:29:42.923 With sobriety, my world is vast and bigger than it's ever been. 1720 01:29:43.005 --> 01:29:47.339 I think for me, there are a lot of ego issues, to be honest, 1721 01:29:47.422 --> 01:29:51.089 a lot of slapping down I've needed, 1722 01:29:51.172 --> 01:29:54.673 and a lot of... I needed a lot of humbling. 1723 01:29:54.756 --> 01:29:58.673 It's five people in this band, 1724 01:29:58.756 --> 01:30:03.172 and everybody was set on their own sort of course... 1725 01:30:04.214 --> 01:30:07.047 But then we got back together. 1726 01:30:07.130 --> 01:30:08.881 Because the story never ends! 1727 01:30:08.964 --> 01:30:10.589 The story never ends. 1728 01:30:15.381 --> 01:30:18.172 Thank you for coming out tonight. 1729 01:30:24.130 --> 01:30:26.923 ♪ See the people walking down the street ♪ 1730 01:30:27.005 --> 01:30:31.881 As angry as I was when they broke up the band, 1731 01:30:31.964 --> 01:30:33.673 I missed them. 1732 01:30:33.756 --> 01:30:37.714 Nobody really knows what that felt like to be in The Go-Go's, 1733 01:30:37.798 --> 01:30:41.923 only four other people know what that feels like. 1734 01:30:42.005 --> 01:30:43.214 And that's the bond. 1735 01:30:43.297 --> 01:30:48.381 Nothing has happened so bad that it overshadows that. 1736 01:30:51.297 --> 01:30:53.089 I don't know how this keeps going, 1737 01:30:53.172 --> 01:30:54.464 I swear to Christ, I don't. 1738 01:30:54.547 --> 01:30:56.714 The Go-Go's day in Hollywood! 1739 01:31:03.130 --> 01:31:04.714 We are making Go-Go's history 1740 01:31:04.798 --> 01:31:07.881 with our debut as Broadway songwriters. 1741 01:31:08.714 --> 01:31:10.756 You get older and you get wiser, 1742 01:31:10.839 --> 01:31:13.381 and you drop a lot of the bullshit. 1743 01:31:13.464 --> 01:31:16.214 We are a family, that's just what it is. 1744 01:31:16.297 --> 01:31:17.589 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 1745 01:31:17.673 --> 01:31:19.756 ♪ Everybody get on your feet ♪ 1746 01:31:19.839 --> 01:31:21.589 ♪ We know you can... ♪ 1747 01:31:21.673 --> 01:31:23.923 -Can you drum? 1748 01:31:24.005 --> 01:31:25.547 Gina needs coffee. 1749 01:31:25.631 --> 01:31:27.089 ♪ We used to have the beat ♪ 1750 01:31:27.172 --> 01:31:28.714 ♪ We had the beat ♪ 1751 01:31:28.798 --> 01:31:31.214 I remember when we had the beat! We got it back. 1752 01:31:31.297 --> 01:31:34.172 ♪ Everybody, we got the beat ♪ 1753 01:31:34.255 --> 01:31:36.464 ♪ We got the, we got the beat ♪ 1754 01:31:36.547 --> 01:31:38.172 That was fantastic. 1755 01:31:38.255 --> 01:31:39.839 That was amazing. 1756 01:31:39.923 --> 01:31:43.464 Oh, my God, do we have the motherfucking beat. 1757 01:31:43.547 --> 01:31:44.839 I love that. 1758 01:31:44.923 --> 01:31:48.005 That wasn't bad for not playing together a really long time. 1759 01:31:50.130 --> 01:31:51.798 Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse, 1760 01:31:51.881 --> 01:31:53.964 it only makes you tighter. 1761 01:31:54.047 --> 01:31:56.047 I think that The Go-Go's, 1762 01:31:56.130 --> 01:31:57.464 if you believe in karma, 1763 01:31:57.547 --> 01:32:00.798 there's a lot of karmic ties in this band. 1764 01:32:00.881 --> 01:32:03.381 Just the fact that we've been in each other's lives 1765 01:32:03.464 --> 01:32:06.172 for so many years, it has to be to work out something. 1766 01:32:06.255 --> 01:32:09.381 ♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪ 1767 01:32:09.464 --> 01:32:13.589 ♪ They may have control but we're not scared ♪ 1768 01:32:15.214 --> 01:32:16.923 ♪ Zero fucks given ♪ 1769 01:32:17.005 --> 01:32:18.297 Oops. 1770 01:32:18.381 --> 01:32:21.547 About a year ago, I went to a psychiatrist 1771 01:32:21.631 --> 01:32:24.589 who diagnosed me as being bipolar. 1772 01:32:24.673 --> 01:32:27.339 ♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪ 1773 01:32:27.422 --> 01:32:29.422 For the first time in my life 1774 01:32:29.506 --> 01:32:32.631 I haven't thought of suicide in a year, 1775 01:32:32.714 --> 01:32:34.923 which is like fucking mind-blowing to me. 1776 01:32:35.005 --> 01:32:37.464 Do you want to decide which key you like better? 1777 01:32:37.547 --> 01:32:38.839 -Yeah, that'd be good. -Okay. 1778 01:32:38.923 --> 01:32:41.631 And luckily, The Go-Go's have finally gotten to the point 1779 01:32:41.714 --> 01:32:44.673 where we actually can be civil to each other and get along. 1780 01:32:44.756 --> 01:32:47.130 I can see the good in everyone in the band. 1781 01:32:51.089 --> 01:32:55.089 ♪ There's a place for us, don't look for a sign ♪ 1782 01:32:55.172 --> 01:32:57.339 ♪ Not on a map ♪ 1783 01:32:57.422 --> 01:32:59.631 ♪ It's a state of mind ♪ 1784 01:33:01.089 --> 01:33:03.172 ♪ This is club zero ♪ 1785 01:33:03.255 --> 01:33:05.255 Okay, so, verse or chorus? 1786 01:33:05.339 --> 01:33:07.923 We talked about things we wanted to write about 1787 01:33:08.005 --> 01:33:10.964 and we did kind of make a conscious decision 1788 01:33:11.047 --> 01:33:13.673 to try to write about, you know, 1789 01:33:13.756 --> 01:33:16.381 the place of women and our future roles. 1790 01:33:16.464 --> 01:33:20.297 It's kind of a testament to our longevity and our bond. 1791 01:33:20.381 --> 01:33:22.464 -Tenacity. -And how we can work together. 1792 01:33:22.547 --> 01:33:25.130 That we've been able to withstand it, I think... 1793 01:33:26.089 --> 01:33:27.422 It was hard! 1794 01:33:27.506 --> 01:33:29.798 We've been able to live through it! 1795 01:33:31.047 --> 01:33:32.631 What were you saying, Gina? 1796 01:33:32.714 --> 01:33:34.297 Wait a minute! 1797 01:33:34.381 --> 01:33:36.089 Okay, are we ready to go loud? 1798 01:33:36.172 --> 01:33:38.547 - Yeah, man. - You wanna go loud? 1799 01:33:38.631 --> 01:33:40.381 One, two, a-one, two... 1800 01:33:46.422 --> 01:33:50.130 ♪ There's a place for us, don't look for a sign ♪ 1801 01:33:50.214 --> 01:33:51.714 ♪ Not on a map ♪ 1802 01:33:51.798 --> 01:33:54.172 ♪ It's a state of mind ♪ 1803 01:33:55.297 --> 01:33:57.381 ♪ This is club zero ♪ 1804 01:33:59.714 --> 01:34:02.547 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1805 01:34:02.631 --> 01:34:05.756 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1806 01:34:05.839 --> 01:34:09.923 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say... ♪ 1807 01:34:10.005 --> 01:34:13.714 There was this power that we all felt, 1808 01:34:13.798 --> 01:34:17.839 of us together doing what we're doing. 1809 01:34:17.923 --> 01:34:21.297 We showed up as who we were 1810 01:34:21.381 --> 01:34:24.255 and just, against all odds, 1811 01:34:24.339 --> 01:34:26.881 busted through some ceilings. 1812 01:34:39.547 --> 01:34:41.214 I don't know what more they have to do 1813 01:34:41.297 --> 01:34:43.130 to get in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. 1814 01:34:43.214 --> 01:34:46.589 What the fuck? They're not? 1815 01:34:46.673 --> 01:34:49.422 Come on! Come on! 1816 01:34:49.506 --> 01:34:51.631 They're in my Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. 1817 01:34:58.673 --> 01:35:02.005 ♪ There's a place for us, don't look for a sign ♪ 1818 01:35:02.089 --> 01:35:03.964 ♪ Not on a map ♪ 1819 01:35:04.047 --> 01:35:06.547 ♪ It's a state of mind ♪ 1820 01:35:07.547 --> 01:35:09.756 ♪ This is club zero ♪ 1821 01:35:11.631 --> 01:35:14.798 ♪ Time's up, it's the clarion call ♪ 1822 01:35:14.881 --> 01:35:19.422 ♪ 'Cause zero hour is upon us all ♪ 1823 01:35:19.506 --> 01:35:21.798 ♪ Tik-tok, tik-tok ♪ 1824 01:35:24.005 --> 01:35:27.297 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1825 01:35:27.381 --> 01:35:30.631 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1826 01:35:30.714 --> 01:35:35.297 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say ♪ 1827 01:35:35.381 --> 01:35:37.506 ♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪ 1828 01:35:37.589 --> 01:35:40.005 ♪ Ready or not, here we are ♪ 1829 01:35:40.089 --> 01:35:43.130 ♪ Better get out of our way ♪ 1830 01:35:43.214 --> 01:35:46.422 ♪ Looking for heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1831 01:35:48.589 --> 01:35:50.756 -I love it. - We did blow in our bras. 1832 01:35:50.839 --> 01:35:52.422 That day we did blow and gave birth. 1833 01:35:52.506 --> 01:35:54.381 Yeah, it was time to have babies. 1834 01:35:54.464 --> 01:35:55.673 Which one is that? 1835 01:35:55.756 --> 01:35:56.923 She's having her baby. 1836 01:35:57.005 --> 01:35:58.631 Why am I always the baby? 1837 01:35:58.714 --> 01:36:00.047 You were always the baby 1838 01:36:00.130 --> 01:36:03.506 'cause you were the only one that could fit between our legs. 1839 01:36:04.422 --> 01:36:07.381 ♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪ 1840 01:36:07.464 --> 01:36:11.297 ♪ They may have control but we're not scared ♪ 1841 01:36:12.631 --> 01:36:14.964 ♪ Zero fucks given ♪ 1842 01:36:17.089 --> 01:36:20.130 ♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪ 1843 01:36:20.214 --> 01:36:24.172 ♪ Heads up, we're the new MVPs 1844 01:36:24.255 --> 01:36:27.047 ♪ Of the twenty-first century ♪ 1845 01:36:28.881 --> 01:36:32.464 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1846 01:36:32.547 --> 01:36:35.714 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1847 01:36:35.798 --> 01:36:40.381 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say ♪ 1848 01:36:40.464 --> 01:36:42.214 ♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪ 1849 01:36:42.297 --> 01:36:44.756 ♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪ 1850 01:36:44.839 --> 01:36:48.339 ♪ You better get out of our way ♪ 1851 01:36:48.422 --> 01:36:51.589 ♪ We won't stop until we're done ♪ 1852 01:36:51.673 --> 01:36:55.047 ♪ Better get out of our way ♪ 1853 01:36:55.130 --> 01:36:59.923 ♪ Walking like heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1854 01:37:18.339 --> 01:37:21.422 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1855 01:37:21.506 --> 01:37:24.964 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1856 01:37:25.047 --> 01:37:29.631 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say ♪ 1857 01:37:29.714 --> 01:37:31.422 ♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪ 1858 01:37:31.506 --> 01:37:34.297 ♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪ 1859 01:37:34.381 --> 01:37:37.714 ♪ You better get out of our way ♪ 1860 01:37:37.798 --> 01:37:40.798 ♪ We won't stop until we're done ♪ 1861 01:37:40.881 --> 01:37:43.881 ♪ Better get out of our way ♪ 1862 01:37:43.964 --> 01:37:47.172 ♪ Looking for heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1863 01:37:47.255 --> 01:37:52.422 ♪ Walking like heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1864 01:37:53.547 --> 01:37:54.923 ♪ Oh ♪ 1865 01:37:56.381 --> 01:37:58.381 ♪ Oh ♪ 1866 01:37:59.381 --> 01:38:00.964 ♪h 1867 01:38:02.172 --> 01:38:03.214 ♪h