1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,049 --> 00:00:05,150 [bright tone] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:23,230 --> 00:00:26,120 [reflective music] 5 00:00:26,140 --> 00:00:28,120 - How have you changed as a person 6 00:00:28,140 --> 00:00:31,219 since we first started filming? 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,149 - I started off not really knowing who I was, 8 00:00:35,170 --> 00:00:38,009 'cause, I mean, I was a kid. 9 00:00:38,030 --> 00:00:40,210 I was 7, and I'm 12 now. 10 00:00:40,229 --> 00:00:45,179 That was a little bit after the trans--trans-- 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,229 transformation? 12 00:00:48,009 --> 00:00:50,200 Yeah, that's pretty much what I remember. 13 00:00:50,219 --> 00:00:52,070 Here we go! 14 00:00:52,090 --> 00:00:56,030 [Cut Copy's "Where I'm Going"] 15 00:00:56,049 --> 00:00:57,189 [hooting] - Avery, can we come in? 16 00:00:57,210 --> 00:00:59,149 Can you show-- - No! 17 00:00:59,170 --> 00:01:01,119 Never! 18 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:03,210 Fine. Maybe one day. 19 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:05,069 - [laughs] - Just come on in. 20 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:07,150 Now. 21 00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:10,039 - ♪ Take my hand if you know ♪ 22 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:11,189 ♪ What I'm going through ♪ 23 00:01:11,210 --> 00:01:13,129 ♪ Take my hand if you know ♪ 24 00:01:13,150 --> 00:01:14,189 - I used to love "Little Mermaid" 25 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:16,019 when I was younger. 26 00:01:16,039 --> 00:01:17,180 I think I related to it so much 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,109 because she wanted to be something that she couldn't, 28 00:01:20,129 --> 00:01:22,060 so she had to go and get, like, a surgery 29 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:23,060 to make her have legs, 30 00:01:23,079 --> 00:01:25,079 but, like, obviously for my predicament, 31 00:01:25,099 --> 00:01:28,049 it's something different. 32 00:01:28,069 --> 00:01:30,159 - Well, a few nights ago, 33 00:01:30,180 --> 00:01:35,079 Phoenix said that he's-- she's a girl. 34 00:01:35,099 --> 00:01:37,000 - [laughs] 35 00:01:37,020 --> 00:01:40,159 I just like to wear girl things. 36 00:01:40,180 --> 00:01:42,200 - ♪ Ooh ♪ 37 00:01:42,219 --> 00:01:44,159 - ♪ Whoa, yeah! ♪ 38 00:01:44,180 --> 00:01:46,030 ♪ Yeah! Yeah! ♪ 39 00:01:46,049 --> 00:01:50,120 - I was meant to be a boy, but I turned out to be a girl. 40 00:01:50,140 --> 00:01:52,189 - ♪ Whoa, yeah! ♪ 41 00:01:52,210 --> 00:01:54,150 ♪ Yeah! Yeah! ♪ 42 00:01:54,170 --> 00:01:55,229 ♪ Whoo! ♪ 43 00:01:56,009 --> 00:01:57,090 - Why are we filming with you? 44 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,230 - [whispering] Because I'm transgender! 45 00:02:04,010 --> 00:02:05,030 Doop! 46 00:02:05,049 --> 00:02:06,159 - ♪ Ooh ♪ 47 00:02:06,180 --> 00:02:09,219 ♪ Ooh ♪ 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,229 ♪ ♪ 49 00:02:29,060 --> 00:02:32,000 - I know there's people out there that are like me. 50 00:02:35,020 --> 00:02:37,009 I mean, maybe there might be some people like me 51 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:40,000 at my school. 52 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:42,170 They might be hiding it too. 53 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:48,139 Today's a special day 'cause I'm starting blockers. 54 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:52,020 They, like, stop female hormone things. 55 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:54,219 - So how sure are you that you wanna do this? 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,030 - Positive. 57 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:00,069 I'm doing this for myself. 58 00:03:00,090 --> 00:03:02,039 - The syringe itself is ginormous, 59 00:03:02,060 --> 00:03:05,069 and it's a lot bigger than the needle. 60 00:03:05,090 --> 00:03:06,099 - [laughs nervously] 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,210 - This is--you know? - Yeah. 62 00:03:07,229 --> 00:03:09,060 - This is what's gonna help you, okay? 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,080 - Three, two, one. 64 00:03:11,099 --> 00:03:13,050 - Ah. - Breathe, breathe. 65 00:03:13,069 --> 00:03:15,169 - Breathe, breathe, breathe. Worst part's done. 66 00:03:18,090 --> 00:03:21,210 - Shh. - Ah. Done. 67 00:03:21,229 --> 00:03:23,050 All right, don't look at that. - Take a deep breath. 68 00:03:23,069 --> 00:03:24,079 You see, it's done. It's over. 69 00:03:24,099 --> 00:03:26,009 Take a deep breath. - Whoop! 70 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:27,159 - See? That's all it is. 71 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:30,170 You think you can handle that? - Yeah. 72 00:03:30,189 --> 00:03:34,120 - It'll get better. - Till you're 16? 73 00:03:34,139 --> 00:03:36,110 Oh, you're happy, aren't you? - Yeah. 74 00:03:36,129 --> 00:03:38,110 - Yeah. 75 00:03:38,129 --> 00:03:40,069 Remember when you used to put ice packs on you? 76 00:03:40,090 --> 00:03:41,069 - Mom. 77 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:42,069 - Every single night, 78 00:03:42,090 --> 00:03:43,210 I would have to go downstairs 79 00:03:43,229 --> 00:03:45,110 and take ice packs off of his chest, 80 00:03:45,129 --> 00:03:46,159 and I used to tell him, 81 00:03:46,180 --> 00:03:48,110 "The swelling isn't gonna stop." 82 00:03:48,129 --> 00:03:50,000 [laughs] 83 00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:52,150 And duct tape. No more duct tape. 84 00:03:52,170 --> 00:03:55,170 And maybe you won't have to wear binders anymore either. 85 00:03:55,189 --> 00:03:57,020 Does that--how does that make you feel? 86 00:03:57,039 --> 00:03:59,009 - Good. - You're, like, glowing. 87 00:03:59,030 --> 00:04:02,020 [laughs] 88 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:03,030 I'm not gonna cry. 89 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:05,099 I know you're waiting, but it's not gonna happen. 90 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,099 [laughs] 91 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,099 [sweet music] 92 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:17,129 ♪ ♪ 93 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:27,209 - My girlfriend is 13. 94 00:04:27,230 --> 00:04:30,110 Her name is Mildred. 95 00:04:30,129 --> 00:04:32,159 We've been going out for three months. 96 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:35,079 ♪ ♪ 97 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:36,189 I don't want Mildred to know I'm trans 98 00:04:36,209 --> 00:04:38,230 because I think that 99 00:04:39,009 --> 00:04:41,019 it would kind of, like, ruin some things. 100 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,029 ♪ ♪ 101 00:04:45,050 --> 00:04:48,149 I wanna tell her first more than anybody else. 102 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:50,170 But right now, I don't think it's the time. 103 00:04:53,129 --> 00:04:55,110 It's just hard. Like, you're in between. 104 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:56,209 Like, you wanna tell that person, 105 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:58,009 but then you don't. 106 00:04:58,029 --> 00:05:01,040 ♪ ♪ 107 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:04,089 If she really does like me like she says she does, 108 00:05:04,110 --> 00:05:06,129 I don't really think she will take it 109 00:05:06,149 --> 00:05:07,209 over the top, you know? 110 00:05:07,230 --> 00:05:11,189 Oh, am I doing that salsa dance with you guys 111 00:05:11,209 --> 00:05:12,209 in the quinceañera? 112 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:15,050 - That's an everyone thing. 113 00:05:15,069 --> 00:05:17,120 - Do you have a huge cake? 114 00:05:17,139 --> 00:05:20,040 - See, we don't exactly-- how big the cake's gonna be. 115 00:05:20,060 --> 00:05:22,129 - And I have to--don't I have to dance with you like this? 116 00:05:22,149 --> 00:05:24,160 Like-- 117 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:25,199 'Cause your dress is-- - Probably. 118 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:27,120 'Cause my dress is gonna be like-- 119 00:05:27,139 --> 00:05:29,079 [both whoosh] 120 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:30,110 [laughs] Bigger than that. 121 00:05:30,129 --> 00:05:31,199 - Here, you can swing. 122 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:34,120 - Thank you. 123 00:05:34,139 --> 00:05:37,100 - Okay, so day one 124 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,220 of my hormone blockers. 125 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,180 Pill number one, ever. 126 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:47,019 Water. 127 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,019 Kay. Well, here it is. 128 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,220 Tiny. Nothing too big. 129 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,149 ♪ ♪ 130 00:05:54,170 --> 00:05:56,170 Done. [laughs] 131 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:59,199 Oh, my God, so many results already! 132 00:05:59,220 --> 00:06:02,129 ♪ ♪ 133 00:06:02,149 --> 00:06:04,000 [bell rings] Ding dong. 134 00:06:04,019 --> 00:06:05,009 - Hello. How you doing? 135 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:06,129 - Is there anything I can help y'all find? 136 00:06:06,149 --> 00:06:07,170 - Actually, yes. 137 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:09,129 We're getting ready to go skiing next weekend 138 00:06:09,149 --> 00:06:12,129 and we're hoping--water skiing, so we're hoping to find a-- 139 00:06:12,149 --> 00:06:15,009 a little more athletic, maybe-- 140 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:16,050 - Essentially like this. 141 00:06:16,069 --> 00:06:18,029 - Maybe a sports bra type top. - Okay. 142 00:06:18,050 --> 00:06:19,160 - Not, like, a string bikini. - Yeah. 143 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:21,019 Something a little more substantial. 144 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,079 - Yeah. - Okay. 145 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,060 - I kinda like that print. 146 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:27,040 - How 'bout these for bottoms? That's plenty of coverage. 147 00:06:27,060 --> 00:06:29,079 - Yeah. I like this fringe one. 148 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:30,110 - No. We're not getting fringe. 149 00:06:30,129 --> 00:06:32,069 - How 'bout this one? - No. 150 00:06:32,090 --> 00:06:33,110 [laughs] 151 00:06:33,129 --> 00:06:35,120 - Do you have any that have, like, 152 00:06:35,139 --> 00:06:37,069 a little bit of padding to them? 153 00:06:37,090 --> 00:06:40,090 - Well, this one has a little bit more substantial padding. 154 00:06:40,110 --> 00:06:42,069 - Mm-hmm. - But this one... 155 00:06:42,090 --> 00:06:44,060 - I'm 15 years old. 156 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:46,100 My transition started a long time ago, 157 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,019 when I was 11 years old. 158 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,139 How 'bout we just get something like this? 159 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:50,180 - That would be perfect. - [laughs] 160 00:06:50,199 --> 00:06:51,220 - That's it. It's good. - Yeah, there you go. 161 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,069 - It's got the-- - That makes dads happy. 162 00:06:53,090 --> 00:06:55,110 - Yeah. - Do you wanna try this one on? 163 00:06:55,129 --> 00:06:56,220 - I don't wanna try it on. You can try it on. 164 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,040 [both laugh] 165 00:06:58,060 --> 00:06:59,159 - I'll try this one on. - Okay. 166 00:06:59,180 --> 00:07:00,160 - I like the color. 167 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:02,110 - That looks good. - I like it. 168 00:07:02,129 --> 00:07:05,000 Since I've gotten older, my body has changed a little. 169 00:07:05,019 --> 00:07:06,209 The actual visual of, like, looking in the mirror 170 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:10,000 and, like, seeing myself has gotten a little worse. 171 00:07:10,019 --> 00:07:11,230 Some people are all right with just doing hormones 172 00:07:12,009 --> 00:07:13,050 and vocal therapy, 173 00:07:13,069 --> 00:07:15,079 but I do wanna, you know, change my body 174 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:18,040 for what will make me happier in the future. 175 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:20,149 Dad, maybe we can try on that Michael Kors one. 176 00:07:20,170 --> 00:07:21,189 - No, we're not trying on Michael. 177 00:07:21,209 --> 00:07:23,019 It has no straps. 178 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,069 If you get that one, then I get to try on some Speedos. 179 00:07:26,089 --> 00:07:28,069 - I don't think that's a good look for anyone. 180 00:07:28,089 --> 00:07:29,149 - [laughs] 181 00:07:29,170 --> 00:07:32,000 - Well, it's vital for me to have my parents understand 182 00:07:32,019 --> 00:07:33,090 what I'm trying to get at. 183 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:37,069 Like, being a teenager is just hard enough on its own. 184 00:07:37,090 --> 00:07:39,149 Going through puberty as someone that you're not 185 00:07:39,170 --> 00:07:41,159 is a little harder. 186 00:07:44,019 --> 00:07:48,009 - I didn't get to do anything when I was 15. 187 00:07:48,029 --> 00:07:49,050 - So how do you think it would've been 188 00:07:49,069 --> 00:07:51,009 if I would've been, like, 15 and, like, transgender 189 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:52,050 back in that day? 190 00:07:52,069 --> 00:07:53,120 How do you think people would've, like, treated me? 191 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:54,139 - Oh. 192 00:07:54,159 --> 00:07:57,090 They would not have accepted it. 193 00:07:57,110 --> 00:08:00,009 It would not have been-- 194 00:08:00,029 --> 00:08:04,079 I don't know how Grandma Hall would be with it if she knew. 195 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:06,000 - Well, how do you feel about it, Grandma? 196 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:07,160 - Oh, I'm fine. 197 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:10,079 I've taken care of you since you were two months old. 198 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:11,199 - [laughs] 199 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:13,000 - You're my grandchild, 200 00:08:13,019 --> 00:08:15,160 and whether you're male or female, 201 00:08:15,180 --> 00:08:17,149 you're still my grandchild. 202 00:08:17,170 --> 00:08:19,160 - I like that you don't care about anything 203 00:08:19,180 --> 00:08:21,100 except for if I got, like, tattoos. 204 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,220 You wouldn't like that. - No. 205 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,139 There are some things that I've put my foot down, 206 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,040 whether you're male or female. 207 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:29,110 - [laughs] 208 00:08:29,129 --> 00:08:31,199 - Thank you very much for-- for tuning in with us. 209 00:08:31,220 --> 00:08:35,230 Avery, how early did you know that you were a girl? 210 00:08:36,009 --> 00:08:37,059 - When I was about 4. 211 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,070 - And you're being homeschooled right now. 212 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:40,139 - Yeah. Because-- 213 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:42,019 - Was there an incident that occurred, 214 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:43,009 or what happened? 215 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:44,210 - Yeah, most--like, at school, 216 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:46,210 I just started dressing like a girl, 217 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:49,019 and everyone just didn't like it. 218 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:52,000 They just were really mad for whatever reason. 219 00:08:52,019 --> 00:08:53,080 I don't really know. 220 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:55,120 - In her pre-K class, 221 00:08:55,139 --> 00:08:59,019 she was starting to assert herself 222 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:00,059 a little bit more 223 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,179 and started with pink sparkly shoes, 224 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,070 and then it would progress to girl clothing. 225 00:09:05,090 --> 00:09:07,230 The kids started saying, you know, "Come on. 226 00:09:08,009 --> 00:09:09,029 "When are you gonna stop this? 227 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:11,129 When are you just gonna start acting like a boy again?" 228 00:09:11,149 --> 00:09:15,070 And that's when she told us, "I don't wanna be here anymore. 229 00:09:15,090 --> 00:09:16,090 "I'll give up all my friends. 230 00:09:16,110 --> 00:09:18,029 "I would rather just be able to be a girl 231 00:09:18,049 --> 00:09:19,179 and not have any friends at all." 232 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,230 - Oh, wow. 233 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,190 - So you're going to be able to have 234 00:09:26,210 --> 00:09:28,070 your own children's book. 235 00:09:28,090 --> 00:09:29,139 - I don't get this. 236 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:31,169 - It's for transgender awareness. 237 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:33,019 You're gonna be the author, 238 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:35,120 and you get to look at the pictures 239 00:09:35,139 --> 00:09:38,009 and decide which ones you like best 240 00:09:38,029 --> 00:09:39,019 and we like. 241 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:41,200 - So basically, they're letting me decide--decide? 242 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:42,220 - Mm-hmm. 243 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,070 And hopefully next week, 244 00:09:44,090 --> 00:09:46,120 we're gonna get some for you to look at. 245 00:09:46,139 --> 00:09:47,220 - Pretty cool. 246 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,129 - Then they want to maybe have you do a book tour 247 00:09:51,149 --> 00:09:52,159 to promote it. 248 00:09:52,179 --> 00:09:57,000 So you have to practice autographing your name. 249 00:09:57,019 --> 00:09:59,090 - This is not gonna go well. - Or at least smiling. 250 00:09:59,110 --> 00:10:01,100 - Who'd wanna take pictures with me? 251 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,000 - Smile--lots of people would wanna take pictures with you! 252 00:10:04,019 --> 00:10:05,190 - Why? - Because you're awesome. 253 00:10:05,210 --> 00:10:08,070 - I'm not even famous on anything. 254 00:10:08,090 --> 00:10:10,029 ♪ ♪ 255 00:10:10,049 --> 00:10:12,220 I'm gonna go play Xbox. 256 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,019 Gimme that camera. 257 00:10:14,039 --> 00:10:16,120 ♪ ♪ 258 00:10:16,139 --> 00:10:18,190 - "Emily slid into a shiny yellow dress 259 00:10:18,210 --> 00:10:21,070 "while Jacob wiggled into a sparkly pink dress. 260 00:10:21,090 --> 00:10:23,120 "'What are you wearing?' asked Mom. 261 00:10:23,139 --> 00:10:25,190 "'It's like a dress. I made it.' 262 00:10:25,210 --> 00:10:26,200 "Dad frowned. 263 00:10:26,220 --> 00:10:28,169 "'You can't go to school like that.' 264 00:10:28,190 --> 00:10:30,049 "'Put on some shorts and a shirt 265 00:10:30,070 --> 00:10:31,200 "'under that dress thing,' Mom said. 266 00:10:31,220 --> 00:10:35,090 'And hurry. We're late for school.'" 267 00:10:35,110 --> 00:10:37,159 You're never late for school, right? 268 00:10:37,179 --> 00:10:40,129 'Cause you're homeschooled. 269 00:10:40,149 --> 00:10:42,019 "'Let's get the sewing machine,' 270 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:43,129 "she said finally. 271 00:10:43,149 --> 00:10:45,220 "Jacob felt the air refill his body. 272 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,059 "He grinned. Mom smiled back. 273 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,120 "'There are all sorts of ways to be a boy,' she said. 274 00:10:51,139 --> 00:10:53,039 'Right?'" - Wait, I'm a boy. 275 00:10:53,059 --> 00:10:54,210 - I know. - And also-- 276 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:55,230 - You're a rainbow boy. 277 00:10:56,009 --> 00:10:59,169 - And I'm also wearing girl's-- girl clothes! 278 00:10:59,190 --> 00:11:01,049 - You are wearing-- they are your clothes, 279 00:11:01,070 --> 00:11:03,120 so they are boy clothes. 280 00:11:03,139 --> 00:11:05,070 "Dad looked up from his book." - No, girl clothes. 281 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:06,120 - Okay, then they're girl clothes. 282 00:11:06,139 --> 00:11:07,159 They can be whatever you wanna be. 283 00:11:07,179 --> 00:11:08,190 - Bleh. - Bleh. 284 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:09,200 - Bleh. - [laughs] 285 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:12,220 - I am a girl-boy. 286 00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:18,129 A girl-boy is a boy want to be a girl. 287 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,169 Now for race car. 288 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:29,129 Actually, I love rainbows. 289 00:11:29,149 --> 00:11:31,129 ♪ ♪ 290 00:11:31,149 --> 00:11:33,210 - Why? 291 00:11:33,230 --> 00:11:38,039 - 'Cause they're so beautiful. 292 00:11:38,059 --> 00:11:39,059 Hey. 293 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:45,090 ♪ ♪ 294 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:48,220 - Phoenix, costumes are this way. 295 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,039 - Ooh! 296 00:11:50,059 --> 00:11:52,029 - When he plays pretend, he's always a girl. 297 00:11:52,049 --> 00:11:54,230 He's a queen, he's a princess, he's a mom, he's a sister. 298 00:11:55,009 --> 00:11:56,149 But then, still, he'll correct people. 299 00:11:56,169 --> 00:11:58,019 He says, "I'm a boy." 300 00:11:58,039 --> 00:11:59,149 Ooh. 301 00:11:59,169 --> 00:12:02,029 We say gender expansive, nonbinary, 302 00:12:02,049 --> 00:12:06,019 gender nonconforming, under the trans umbrella, 303 00:12:06,039 --> 00:12:09,009 gender awesome, girl-boy, rainbow boy-- 304 00:12:09,029 --> 00:12:11,129 we don't really have a good term. 305 00:12:11,149 --> 00:12:13,139 - [giggles] 306 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:15,059 - We don't use "his" or "her" so much 307 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,120 just because it's kind of up in the air right now. 308 00:12:18,139 --> 00:12:20,110 - We're supporting Phoenix along the way, 309 00:12:20,129 --> 00:12:21,159 whatever it is. 310 00:12:21,179 --> 00:12:22,179 - [shouts] - Oh! 311 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,220 - Oh-- - [groans] 312 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,049 - Are you okay? - You okay? 313 00:12:25,070 --> 00:12:26,179 - [laughs] 314 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,139 - Too many feathers. 315 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:31,149 [dramatic music] 316 00:12:31,169 --> 00:12:38,169 ♪ ♪ 317 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:44,080 - I'm headed to the memorial service 318 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:46,090 for Tamara Dominguez, 319 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:50,009 and she's a Latina trans woman who was murdered 320 00:12:50,029 --> 00:12:53,059 here in Kansas City a couple of weeks ago. 321 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,009 ♪ ♪ 322 00:12:56,029 --> 00:12:59,049 You know, lately, we've seen the Obama administration 323 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:02,110 making a lot of progress for trans equality, 324 00:13:02,129 --> 00:13:04,080 but there's been backlash 325 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:06,120 and violence, 326 00:13:06,139 --> 00:13:08,120 especially against trans women of color, 327 00:13:08,139 --> 00:13:10,090 is one of those things 328 00:13:10,110 --> 00:13:13,000 that reminds us we have a lot of work to do. 329 00:13:13,019 --> 00:13:14,169 - Three people have been killed 330 00:13:14,190 --> 00:13:17,120 in the LGBTQ community in Kansas City 331 00:13:17,139 --> 00:13:19,000 in the past year. 332 00:13:19,019 --> 00:13:21,090 Now others are hoping to replace hate 333 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:22,120 with understanding. 334 00:13:22,139 --> 00:13:23,129 - You realize that we needed 335 00:13:23,149 --> 00:13:25,049 to bring together our community 336 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:26,129 and celebrate who she was, 337 00:13:26,149 --> 00:13:28,019 but also realize that this is an epidemic 338 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:29,070 that's facing our country. 339 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:31,059 - And an epidemic in Kansas City, 340 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,049 which some have called the epicenter 341 00:13:33,070 --> 00:13:34,179 of transgender violence. 342 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:41,139 ♪ ♪ 343 00:13:43,210 --> 00:13:45,129 - How are the shots going? - Good. 344 00:13:45,149 --> 00:13:47,000 - Are you getting a monthly or every-- 345 00:13:47,019 --> 00:13:48,070 - Every three months. - Three months. 346 00:13:48,090 --> 00:13:49,070 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 347 00:13:49,090 --> 00:13:50,149 - Are they working? - Yeah. 348 00:13:50,169 --> 00:13:51,149 - Do they hurt? 349 00:13:51,169 --> 00:13:54,039 - Uh, some--yes. A lot. 350 00:13:54,059 --> 00:13:58,110 - One option is to think about that implant. 351 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,139 - Yeah. 352 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,110 - It's just a little--did we talk about that last time? 353 00:14:02,129 --> 00:14:04,019 - Yeah, I don't-- I don't remember if we had seen 354 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:06,039 if insurance was gonna cover that, or-- 355 00:14:06,059 --> 00:14:10,059 - The generic one that we like to use is $2,500. 356 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,190 It's just a little tube that go-- 357 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:13,169 would go under your arm right here. 358 00:14:13,190 --> 00:14:15,019 It acts just like the shot. 359 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:16,139 It would take the place of the shots. 360 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:17,169 - Oh. Okay. 361 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:18,169 - And then he was curious-- 362 00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:20,000 'cause I know last time we were here, 363 00:14:20,019 --> 00:14:21,139 you had talked about a pill that he could take 364 00:14:21,159 --> 00:14:23,100 that has a little bit of testosterone, I think, in it 365 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,059 to help change his voice a little bit 366 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,070 or deepen it. 367 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:28,049 - Exactly, and that's called oxandrolone. 368 00:14:28,070 --> 00:14:29,049 - Mm-hmm. 369 00:14:29,070 --> 00:14:31,169 He gets made fun of at school for being-- 370 00:14:31,190 --> 00:14:34,039 having, like, a very high-pitched voice and-- 371 00:14:34,059 --> 00:14:35,169 - We'll just have our nurse call 372 00:14:35,190 --> 00:14:37,070 and see if we can get that prior authorized. 373 00:14:37,090 --> 00:14:39,019 - Yeah, 'cause we did the genetic testing, 374 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:40,230 and I just had a heart attack when I got the bills. 375 00:14:41,009 --> 00:14:42,059 Like, there's no way I can pay-- 376 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,149 I don't even make that in a month. 377 00:14:43,169 --> 00:14:45,149 [laughs] So-- 378 00:14:45,169 --> 00:14:47,179 - Your insurance didn't cover it? 379 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,120 - Um, it was, like, $2,000. 380 00:14:50,139 --> 00:14:53,110 - Maybe it's something... 381 00:14:53,129 --> 00:14:55,230 we can re-discuss with them. 382 00:15:02,149 --> 00:15:05,049 'Kay, I'm just gonna put in some orders here. 383 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,100 Usually, when things are medically necessary, 384 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,230 the insurance will pay. 385 00:15:18,179 --> 00:15:19,179 - Sorry. 386 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,149 These appointments are just really hard. 387 00:15:30,220 --> 00:15:33,129 - [humming] 388 00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:36,019 ♪ Mm, got some eggs, mm, mm ♪ 389 00:15:36,039 --> 00:15:38,210 ♪ I got some eggs, I got some eggs, mm, mm ♪ 390 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:41,179 ♪ I got some eggs from chickens ♪ 391 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,190 I'm not scared of anything. 392 00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:44,200 Eggs! 393 00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:46,230 I am a great explorer, 394 00:15:47,009 --> 00:15:51,059 I love animals, bugs, and all sorts of things, 395 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,230 and I just like the outdoors. 396 00:15:54,009 --> 00:15:55,120 Going up. 397 00:15:55,139 --> 00:15:57,070 Going up. 398 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:59,200 Going up on top. 399 00:15:59,220 --> 00:16:01,210 - Everyone's used to tomboys, 400 00:16:01,230 --> 00:16:05,120 and I just happen to have a tomboy trans girl. 401 00:16:05,139 --> 00:16:07,220 ♪ ♪ 402 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,169 Avery was born in 2007, 403 00:16:10,190 --> 00:16:13,090 and she was assigned male at birth. 404 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:15,080 We thought we had two boys, 405 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:18,009 but at the age of 4, she corrected us 406 00:16:18,029 --> 00:16:21,059 and started her social transition that year. 407 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,120 ♪ ♪ 408 00:16:23,139 --> 00:16:25,110 A lot of people out there think 409 00:16:25,129 --> 00:16:28,000 that 4 year olds have sex change operations 410 00:16:28,019 --> 00:16:30,230 or start taking hormones. 411 00:16:31,009 --> 00:16:33,129 It's an incredibly common misperception. 412 00:16:33,149 --> 00:16:36,149 Children before puberty do not have medical interventions. 413 00:16:36,169 --> 00:16:38,080 It is a social transition. 414 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:41,110 It is clothing, it is pronouns, 415 00:16:41,129 --> 00:16:42,230 and that sort of thing only. 416 00:16:43,009 --> 00:16:44,110 - What is Mario? 417 00:16:44,129 --> 00:16:46,009 I think he's a plumber. 418 00:16:46,029 --> 00:16:49,059 But the main question is what gender is Yoshi? 419 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,190 No one knows the answer to that question, 420 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:53,210 and no one ever will. 421 00:16:53,230 --> 00:16:56,070 - When we started with Avery and her transition, 422 00:16:56,090 --> 00:16:57,230 we didn't feel like there was anywhere to turn. 423 00:16:58,009 --> 00:17:01,070 We didn't know who to talk to or where to go, 424 00:17:01,090 --> 00:17:04,170 and we felt desperately lost. 425 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:06,119 - I never thought 426 00:17:06,140 --> 00:17:10,170 that I would be an advocate for the LGBT community. 427 00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:14,009 I was raised as a Southern Baptist, 428 00:17:14,029 --> 00:17:16,049 hardcore conservative, 429 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:19,160 but we were asked to do one story in the newspaper 430 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:21,160 where we were completely anonymous 431 00:17:21,180 --> 00:17:24,069 and only used Avery's initials, 432 00:17:24,089 --> 00:17:27,190 and after that, I was asked to give a speech. 433 00:17:27,210 --> 00:17:31,059 We lost most of our friends and some of our family. 434 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,099 We basically went into hiding for about a year 435 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,200 while my daughter grew out her hair 436 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:36,109 to look like the girl that she is. 437 00:17:36,130 --> 00:17:39,039 Once that went viral, Avery decided 438 00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:41,069 that she could tell her story better than I could 439 00:17:41,089 --> 00:17:43,180 and asked if we could make a video of her 440 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,029 telling her own story. 441 00:17:45,049 --> 00:17:46,180 - Hi, I'm Avery, 442 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,150 and welcome to Avery Chat! 443 00:17:49,170 --> 00:17:52,059 Whoo-hoo! 444 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:54,150 - From there, a lot of people started writing stories 445 00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:55,150 about her. 446 00:17:55,170 --> 00:17:59,029 She was very proud to be transgender. 447 00:17:59,049 --> 00:18:01,220 She said her job as a trans person 448 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,069 was to help change the world for other kids. 449 00:18:06,089 --> 00:18:09,009 - I'm just a normal girl. 450 00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:11,039 Your average, everyday, 451 00:18:11,059 --> 00:18:13,130 normal transgender girl. 452 00:18:13,150 --> 00:18:17,230 ♪ ♪ 453 00:18:18,009 --> 00:18:19,119 - Are you getting black? 454 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:21,119 - Yeah, black with white. 455 00:18:21,140 --> 00:18:23,079 - You need red and white. 456 00:18:23,099 --> 00:18:24,180 - Red? - [laughs] 457 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,230 - But black goes with everything, Grandma. 458 00:18:28,009 --> 00:18:31,200 - It's kind of a dull color. 459 00:18:31,220 --> 00:18:33,109 I'm her grandmother, 460 00:18:33,130 --> 00:18:36,230 and I always take her to get her manicures. 461 00:18:37,009 --> 00:18:39,069 She thinks she's older than she is. 462 00:18:39,089 --> 00:18:40,109 - How old is she? 463 00:18:40,130 --> 00:18:41,180 - She's just 15. 464 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,069 - Hmm. 465 00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:44,119 - Modeling, first off. 466 00:18:44,140 --> 00:18:45,230 That's what I wanna do when I'm older, 467 00:18:46,009 --> 00:18:47,079 but if that doesn't work out, 468 00:18:47,099 --> 00:18:50,140 plan B is I wanna go to, like, cosmetology school 469 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,049 and first be a makeup artist and then do, like, nails, 470 00:18:53,069 --> 00:18:54,160 and then I would do, like, hair. 471 00:18:54,180 --> 00:18:57,019 - This one, I dropped a turkey on my toe, 472 00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:58,200 and the nail popped off. 473 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:01,009 - Oh, nail popped off from the turkey? 474 00:19:01,029 --> 00:19:03,019 - 20 pound turkey. - Oh. 475 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:04,160 - It was frozen, too. 476 00:19:06,109 --> 00:19:09,039 You look like a cat. 477 00:19:09,059 --> 00:19:10,109 - No. [laughs] 478 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:15,130 - Let's see. 479 00:19:15,150 --> 00:19:17,039 Oh, dear gussy. 480 00:19:17,059 --> 00:19:18,210 [both laugh] 481 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:20,089 - Do you like 'em? 482 00:19:20,109 --> 00:19:22,009 - Little wild. - I'll help you with the coat. 483 00:19:22,029 --> 00:19:24,079 - Okay, okay. Thank you. 484 00:19:24,099 --> 00:19:26,119 I hope Brian's gonna like them. 485 00:19:26,140 --> 00:19:28,119 - It's all right if he doesn't. 486 00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:29,140 - Yeah. I think his favorite-- 487 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,180 - If he likes you, he'll like that. 488 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,109 - I gotta go and get him some candy today 489 00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:35,170 'cause I had this really cute idea for him. 490 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:38,099 So you know how we had, like, one month yesterday? 491 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,220 So I got, like, a mason jar, and I decorated it all pretty, 492 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,190 and I put inside of it, like, a red piece of paper, 493 00:19:42,210 --> 00:19:44,180 and I wrote, like, "I love you" on the bottom of it, 494 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,019 and I, like, taped it to the bottom. 495 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:48,009 - Now, don't put it on too heavy. 496 00:19:48,029 --> 00:19:49,109 - What? 497 00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:51,099 The candy? 498 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,190 - No, all this mushy stuff. 499 00:19:53,210 --> 00:19:54,180 - [laughs] 500 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,200 - Remember your age, young lady. 501 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:05,170 - I'm nervous. 502 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:07,009 - You're nervous? - Yes. 503 00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:08,130 - Oh, you got this. 504 00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:10,059 - [groans] 505 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:12,119 - It shows a $60 specialty copay. 506 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:13,230 Did you wanna take care of that today? 507 00:20:14,009 --> 00:20:15,230 - Yeah, that's fine. 508 00:20:16,009 --> 00:20:18,109 - Thank you. And this is-- 509 00:20:18,130 --> 00:20:19,200 - Yeah. Goes by Jay though. 510 00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:20,190 - Jay? - Mm-hmm. 511 00:20:20,210 --> 00:20:22,150 - So what do we got going on here today? 512 00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:25,150 - We are having-- he's getting an implant put in 513 00:20:25,170 --> 00:20:26,150 by Dr. Gatti. 514 00:20:26,170 --> 00:20:31,079 - Okay. 515 00:20:31,099 --> 00:20:33,059 - Some kids are really nervous 516 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:35,019 It'd be ideal to have this in the office setting 517 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:37,119 rather than to have Jay go to sleep for it. 518 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:39,069 In this case, Jay's mom didn't feel 519 00:20:39,089 --> 00:20:40,210 that he would do well in that scenario, 520 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:44,099 so we can do a brief anesthetic. 521 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,029 - I refer to this as a Band-Aid. 522 00:20:46,049 --> 00:20:47,150 We're putting a Band-Aid on the situation 523 00:20:47,170 --> 00:20:49,200 because I don't wanna play God. 524 00:20:49,220 --> 00:20:51,220 So I figure we're giving him the blockers 525 00:20:52,009 --> 00:20:53,039 to block all the hormones 526 00:20:53,059 --> 00:20:55,059 so that he doesn't spend his entire college fund 527 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:57,230 on removing the breasts that he never wanted. 528 00:20:58,009 --> 00:21:01,000 But also, that if he does, by miracle, 529 00:21:01,019 --> 00:21:02,079 decide that he wants to be a female, 530 00:21:02,099 --> 00:21:04,200 that he can go through that puberty at 18, 531 00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:06,130 if he wants to, or 16, 532 00:21:06,150 --> 00:21:08,119 and develop just like a normal female would, 533 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:10,039 except later. 534 00:21:10,059 --> 00:21:12,140 But that is probably not gonna happen. 535 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,059 I mean, he is--he's Jay. 536 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:17,109 I mean, [...] is nonexistent anymore. 537 00:21:21,099 --> 00:21:23,200 Hold on. I'm sorry. 538 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:28,049 Sorry. 539 00:21:28,069 --> 00:21:30,069 - It's okay. 540 00:21:30,089 --> 00:21:33,109 - It's just hard seeing your name on that wristband. 541 00:21:33,130 --> 00:21:35,130 - I know. 542 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:43,200 ♪ ♪ 543 00:21:49,109 --> 00:21:51,099 - Come on, Bryce. Come on, you can do it. 544 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,049 - Push. - Come on, Bryce. 545 00:21:53,069 --> 00:21:54,130 It's right there! 546 00:21:54,150 --> 00:21:56,079 - It's a girl. - It's a girl, Bryce! 547 00:21:56,099 --> 00:21:57,150 - Look at that. [baby crying] 548 00:21:57,170 --> 00:21:59,029 - It looks like you. 549 00:21:59,049 --> 00:22:00,130 [baby cries] 550 00:22:00,150 --> 00:22:03,029 Aww. 551 00:22:03,049 --> 00:22:05,119 - [sobbing] [baby cries] 552 00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:07,029 - Aww, no. 553 00:22:07,049 --> 00:22:10,000 ♪ ♪ 554 00:22:10,019 --> 00:22:13,019 - Love you. Take great care of him. 555 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:15,009 The therapist that Jay sees always says, 556 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:16,160 "Well, they're not becoming. 557 00:22:16,180 --> 00:22:20,099 They're always been that person." 558 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,210 But for me, I see that transition. 559 00:22:23,230 --> 00:22:25,119 [baby cries] 560 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:27,140 It started out as, "I wanna be a boy." 561 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,019 And I was like, "Well, you're not." 562 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:31,059 But now it's, within the last two years, 563 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:32,170 "I am a boy. 564 00:22:32,190 --> 00:22:34,009 I'm not a girl." 565 00:22:34,029 --> 00:22:36,190 ♪ ♪ 566 00:22:36,210 --> 00:22:39,009 We switched schools in the same city, 567 00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:41,009 and when he went to this new school, 568 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:42,089 I didn't know for six months 569 00:22:42,109 --> 00:22:44,009 that he was telling everybody he was a boy. 570 00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:47,000 Had no idea. 571 00:22:47,019 --> 00:22:49,069 That's when I knew this is not a joke. 572 00:22:49,089 --> 00:22:50,180 This is not some phase. 573 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,200 This is not something that he's gonna grow out of. 574 00:22:52,220 --> 00:22:54,170 Say, "Hi, Grandma. Hi, Grandpa. 575 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:57,140 Hi, Mary Jane. Hi, Auntie Mary Jane." 576 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,069 I've lost a lot of people. 577 00:23:00,089 --> 00:23:01,230 My family really doesn't talk to me, 578 00:23:02,009 --> 00:23:05,000 and my mother... 579 00:23:05,019 --> 00:23:07,079 thinks I'm a child abuser. 580 00:23:07,099 --> 00:23:08,109 But, I mean, I know in my heart 581 00:23:08,130 --> 00:23:10,029 that it's the right thing to do, 582 00:23:10,049 --> 00:23:12,119 and I would rather have a healthy son 583 00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:14,069 than a suicidal daughter. 584 00:23:14,089 --> 00:23:15,220 - Jay. Mom's here. 585 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,230 both: Look. 586 00:23:17,009 --> 00:23:18,130 - Hey. 587 00:23:18,150 --> 00:23:20,220 [laughter] 588 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,099 You tired? 589 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,190 Yeah? 590 00:23:23,210 --> 00:23:25,029 It's all done. 591 00:23:25,049 --> 00:23:27,109 ♪ ♪ 592 00:23:27,130 --> 00:23:29,210 But at this point, at school, 593 00:23:29,230 --> 00:23:33,039 Jay's friends do not know that he is trans, 594 00:23:33,059 --> 00:23:36,220 and I know it's a ticking time bomb. 595 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,089 I'm gonna push him to come out 596 00:23:38,109 --> 00:23:41,039 and be who he's supposed to be. 597 00:23:41,059 --> 00:23:43,119 - ♪ It's a place I can be ♪ 598 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:45,170 ♪ So authentic and free ♪ 599 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:49,230 ♪ When the universe opens to shut out the pain ♪ 600 00:23:50,009 --> 00:23:54,000 ♪ Of a life of pretend and the shame that won't end ♪ 601 00:23:54,019 --> 00:23:58,109 ♪ And the soul that is broken is starting to mend ♪ 602 00:23:58,130 --> 00:24:00,069 ♪ There's a place that I know ♪ 603 00:24:00,089 --> 00:24:04,130 ♪ It's a place where I go to be me ♪ 604 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,099 [cheers and applause] 605 00:24:11,019 --> 00:24:13,019 - Good morning. all: Good morning. 606 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:14,200 - Today, we choose to recognize, 607 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:17,140 honor, love, and celebrate 608 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,079 anyone here who would claim their identity publicly 609 00:24:21,099 --> 00:24:25,029 as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, 610 00:24:25,049 --> 00:24:29,049 queer or questioning, intersex, pansexual, asexual, 611 00:24:29,069 --> 00:24:31,130 or any category that I've left out. 612 00:24:31,150 --> 00:24:34,200 [laughter] 613 00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:36,119 - This is Phoenix. 614 00:24:41,109 --> 00:24:44,119 Can you tell them? 615 00:24:44,140 --> 00:24:46,119 - Mommy, I'm a little shy. 616 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,000 - You're a little shy? 617 00:24:48,019 --> 00:24:51,079 Do you wanna tell everyone if you're a boy or a girl? 618 00:24:51,099 --> 00:24:54,029 - I just want to tell them that I'm a girl. 619 00:24:54,049 --> 00:24:55,079 - Okay. You can tell them that. 620 00:24:55,099 --> 00:24:58,190 - Say that. 621 00:24:58,210 --> 00:25:00,130 - Mm... [laughter] 622 00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:02,170 I don't want to do it. - Okay. 623 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:04,200 - Phoenix would like you to know that she's a girl 624 00:25:04,220 --> 00:25:08,180 and she prefers "she" and "her" pronouns. 625 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,140 'Kay, let's go this way. 626 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,059 all: May you be well, safe, and whole. 627 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:18,119 We honor you exactly as you are. 628 00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:21,059 - I really don't feel like Phoenix ever really was a boy. 629 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:22,109 [upbeat music] 630 00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:25,130 From a very young age, didn't wanna cut her hair, 631 00:25:25,150 --> 00:25:27,160 didn't wanna wear boy clothes. 632 00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:29,210 ♪ ♪ 633 00:25:29,230 --> 00:25:31,230 We didn't really think of anything 634 00:25:32,009 --> 00:25:34,089 until she became, you know, vocal about it 635 00:25:34,109 --> 00:25:37,049 and started saying she wanted to be a girl. 636 00:25:37,069 --> 00:25:41,069 ♪ ♪ 637 00:25:41,089 --> 00:25:44,230 We don't cram this down anyone's throat. 638 00:25:45,009 --> 00:25:46,200 It's what it is, though. 639 00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:49,069 It's who we are. It's who Phoenix is. 640 00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:56,079 ♪ ♪ 641 00:25:59,170 --> 00:26:01,059 - That's cool. 642 00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:07,210 - Hey, Avery. 643 00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:09,049 - Avery. - Hey. 644 00:26:09,069 --> 00:26:11,029 - Love the hair. - Thank you. 645 00:26:11,049 --> 00:26:12,190 - So what's new? Tell me what's new. 646 00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:17,019 - We wanted to come in and double check on puberty 647 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:18,150 and what signs we're looking for... 648 00:26:18,170 --> 00:26:19,190 - Mm-kay. 649 00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:23,210 - Because we have read all of the sex education books, 650 00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:27,069 and she gets really, really, really upset 651 00:26:27,089 --> 00:26:28,119 looking at the books. 652 00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:33,009 Sweaty panic attacks of "I can't get facial hair" 653 00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:36,099 and "What if my voice gets low and people know?" 654 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,039 So we wanna make sure that she knows 655 00:26:39,059 --> 00:26:40,200 what the signs are. 656 00:26:40,220 --> 00:26:43,000 - So there shouldn't be any signs of puberty 657 00:26:43,019 --> 00:26:44,089 before age nine. - Mm-hmm. 658 00:26:44,109 --> 00:26:46,130 - Otherwise, it would be considered too early, so... 659 00:26:46,150 --> 00:26:48,150 - Too early, right. Precocious puberty. 660 00:26:48,170 --> 00:26:49,190 - Yeah. But then, as soon 661 00:26:49,210 --> 00:26:53,029 as you do start showing signs, 662 00:26:53,049 --> 00:26:55,200 we can start some treatments to block it. 663 00:26:55,220 --> 00:26:57,130 - Why do I have to be--grow up? 664 00:26:57,150 --> 00:27:00,000 I just wanna stay a kid. 665 00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:01,190 - You can't stay a kid forever. 666 00:27:01,210 --> 00:27:04,119 Peter Pan's not real. 667 00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:07,130 [sweet music] 668 00:27:07,150 --> 00:27:10,109 ♪ ♪ 669 00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:13,059 - I ain't gonna lie to you, it's a little awkward. 670 00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:14,089 I would've thought for sure 671 00:27:14,109 --> 00:27:16,130 that somebody would've picked Lee up 672 00:27:16,150 --> 00:27:17,220 and took her out to dinner. 673 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,089 ♪ ♪ 674 00:27:24,109 --> 00:27:27,099 [laughs] 675 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,079 ♪ ♪ 676 00:27:31,099 --> 00:27:34,210 [whispering] Oh, they holding hands too. 677 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:39,089 Be young and in love again. Is that awesome or what? 678 00:27:39,109 --> 00:27:40,119 - [laughs] 679 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:42,170 I can feel-- I'll be your seeing eye dog. 680 00:27:42,190 --> 00:27:48,029 ♪ ♪ 681 00:27:48,049 --> 00:27:49,049 - How 'bout sports? 682 00:27:49,069 --> 00:27:51,049 Anything else other than wrestling? 683 00:27:51,069 --> 00:27:52,150 Or is that it? - I only wrestle. 684 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:54,180 - You look like you'd be a basketball player. 685 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,039 - Nice sarcasm. I like that. 686 00:27:56,059 --> 00:27:57,109 - I'm just playing with you. 687 00:27:57,130 --> 00:28:03,059 ♪ ♪ 688 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:04,089 Sure, she's been on a date, 689 00:28:04,109 --> 00:28:06,220 but this is her first Valentine date 690 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,049 with Brian. 691 00:28:09,069 --> 00:28:12,039 I'd tell him what any father would say. 692 00:28:12,059 --> 00:28:14,049 If you treat her bad, then don't come around, 693 00:28:14,069 --> 00:28:16,049 'cause I'll probably beat you up. 694 00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:17,049 [laughs] 695 00:28:17,069 --> 00:28:19,039 I'll break you in half or something. 696 00:28:19,059 --> 00:28:21,049 But, you know, just what a father would say to him, 697 00:28:21,069 --> 00:28:22,059 you know? 698 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:23,170 Hey, I'm cool with this, 699 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:25,079 but just don't-- don't hurt my daughter 700 00:28:25,099 --> 00:28:27,220 and I'll be-- everything'll be okay. 701 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,130 - Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 702 00:28:29,150 --> 00:28:31,009 - Hold on. - Sit still, babe. 703 00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:32,069 Sit still. 704 00:28:32,089 --> 00:28:34,230 Like, focus. 705 00:28:35,009 --> 00:28:38,190 - You're so cute. - Like, look. 706 00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:40,109 They look like a galaxy. 707 00:28:40,130 --> 00:28:41,230 - That's what your eyes look like. 708 00:28:42,009 --> 00:28:45,109 - No. 709 00:28:45,130 --> 00:28:47,109 Isn't he nice? 710 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:49,130 Don't you guys like him? 711 00:28:49,150 --> 00:28:51,119 I like him. I think he's really cute. 712 00:28:51,140 --> 00:28:54,099 ♪ ♪ 713 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:55,140 It's kinda, like, a weird feeling 714 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,069 'cause in the predicament I'm in, 715 00:28:57,089 --> 00:28:58,180 most of the people, like, judge me 716 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,059 and so I always, like, nitpick myself. 717 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:03,000 Like, oh, my nails look funny 718 00:29:03,019 --> 00:29:06,079 or is my makeup all the way blended? 719 00:29:06,099 --> 00:29:07,130 And it's kind of strange 720 00:29:07,150 --> 00:29:09,180 knowing that someone's, like, not looking at that 721 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,130 and they're just, like, looking at who you are 722 00:29:11,150 --> 00:29:13,200 and your personality and not, like, 723 00:29:13,220 --> 00:29:16,089 your physical, like, being, and I like that. 724 00:29:16,109 --> 00:29:17,150 Cute. 725 00:29:17,170 --> 00:29:18,200 Wanna walk towards that thing 726 00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:21,049 with, like, the kaleidoscope of colors? 727 00:29:21,069 --> 00:29:22,119 - And take pictures? - And like--yeah. 728 00:29:22,140 --> 00:29:23,160 [laughs] - All right. 729 00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:25,109 - When it comes down to, like, the bedroom area, 730 00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:27,119 I don't plan on doing something like that 731 00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:29,019 until I'm comfortable. 732 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,089 Right now, I'm just not comfortable 733 00:29:30,109 --> 00:29:32,109 doing something like that. 734 00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:34,059 - No, I haven't ever dated someone 735 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:35,109 who was transgender before. 736 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:38,190 It was a first, but, I mean, I don't see it 737 00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:40,140 as, like, any kind of big deal. 738 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,150 She's a normal girl just like anyone else. 739 00:29:45,059 --> 00:29:46,230 - [laughs] 740 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,150 - I do have something to ask you, though. 741 00:29:52,170 --> 00:29:54,109 Not literally. - It's not that! 742 00:29:54,130 --> 00:29:57,000 - Then what is it? - It's a bite! 743 00:29:57,019 --> 00:29:58,140 - Why is--why do you have a bite? 744 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,200 - Because I was being annoying, so she bit me playfully. 745 00:30:01,220 --> 00:30:03,210 - You weren't kissing? - No, Mom. 746 00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:06,049 We were playing around. 747 00:30:06,069 --> 00:30:08,210 And all her cousins were there. 748 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:09,220 - Looks like a hickey. 749 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,119 - It's not and you don't believe me, 750 00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:12,150 and it's really disappointing 751 00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:13,220 'cause I'm trying to tell you the sto-- 752 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,220 - I-- 753 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,119 - The real truth and you don't believe me. 754 00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:19,079 - If my son comes home with marks on his neck-- 755 00:30:19,099 --> 00:30:20,210 - It's not a hickey. - I'm gonna ask you. 756 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:22,079 - Okay, that's fine, but it's not a hickey. 757 00:30:22,099 --> 00:30:24,049 - But the fact that you're getting so angry and mad 758 00:30:24,069 --> 00:30:26,079 makes me wonder if it really is a hickey. 759 00:30:26,099 --> 00:30:28,069 - But it's not a hickey! - I know. 760 00:30:28,089 --> 00:30:29,119 Well, I better not see another one, 761 00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:32,109 so if she wants to "playfully bite" you... 762 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:34,200 - I--not unquote, unquote. - Have her bite you on the-- 763 00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:36,230 Have her bite you on the arm. - Okay. 764 00:30:37,009 --> 00:30:38,099 - Because that looks bad. 765 00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:40,220 - I know. - That's all I'm saying. 766 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,230 - God, no one ever believes me. 767 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,049 - Did Mildred go at all? 768 00:30:48,069 --> 00:30:49,180 I know that you wanted to invite her, but-- 769 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,099 - Yeah, I invited her, but she had modeling. 770 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:53,210 - She had what? - Modeling. 771 00:30:53,230 --> 00:30:56,019 - Oh, okay. 772 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:57,019 - I think I told you 773 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,039 I was gonna be in the quinceañera. 774 00:30:59,059 --> 00:31:00,220 - Oh, yeah. Yeah. 775 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,089 - Well, it's coming up. - Okay. 776 00:31:03,109 --> 00:31:06,089 - And I'm excited, but I can't dance. 777 00:31:06,109 --> 00:31:07,099 - [laughs] 778 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:09,130 I've seen your videos. I think you can dance. 779 00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:11,170 - A little. - [laughs] 780 00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:13,009 - But like, you know, I hang out with her, 781 00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:14,089 like, every day... 782 00:31:14,109 --> 00:31:15,089 - Mm-hmm. 783 00:31:15,109 --> 00:31:17,170 - So I'm gonna have a lot of practice. 784 00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:19,059 - So you guys have been working at it already? 785 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:20,140 - Yeah. 786 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,140 It's hard. 787 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,000 - [laughs] 788 00:31:23,019 --> 00:31:30,009 ♪ ♪ 789 00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:45,180 - I feel, like, more like a boy 790 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,190 when I get my hair cut. 791 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,059 - Even when we thought she was a boy, 792 00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:51,150 we always gave her the option. 793 00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:52,230 She always wanted to grow it out. 794 00:31:53,009 --> 00:31:55,180 ♪ ♪ 795 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,099 - To me, when I think of girly, 796 00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:01,089 I think of just, like, long, flowy hair. 797 00:32:01,109 --> 00:32:03,079 It took my hair, like, three years 798 00:32:03,099 --> 00:32:06,119 to get, like, this long. 799 00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:09,049 - I like being a girl 'cause I get to wear dresses 800 00:32:09,069 --> 00:32:11,150 and get to paint my nails. 801 00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:14,089 ♪ ♪ 802 00:32:14,109 --> 00:32:17,160 - I don't know what I see. I just see me. 803 00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:22,109 ♪ ♪ 804 00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:26,079 all: ♪ Happy birthday, dear Lee ♪ 805 00:32:26,099 --> 00:32:29,180 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 806 00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:32,200 - Ooh. [laughter] 807 00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:33,230 - Wait a minute. Gotta get those. 808 00:32:34,009 --> 00:32:34,230 - Only one. 809 00:32:35,009 --> 00:32:36,079 - All right, let's eat. - All right. 810 00:32:36,099 --> 00:32:38,059 [laughter] - All right, let's eat. 811 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:39,220 [indistinct chatter] 812 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,049 - 'Cause you'll probably power through 813 00:32:41,069 --> 00:32:42,059 about six or seven of them. 814 00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:44,089 - Yeah, you'll eat at least six of them. 815 00:32:44,109 --> 00:32:46,109 - All right, guys, move over. You guys are sitting too close. 816 00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:48,009 Let me get in there. - Stop. 817 00:32:48,029 --> 00:32:51,130 - Told her to leave room for Jesus. 818 00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:53,089 - Scoot closer. 819 00:32:53,109 --> 00:32:55,230 - ...bathrooms according to their sex at birth. 820 00:32:56,009 --> 00:32:57,170 A similar bill has also been proposed in Missouri. 821 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:59,009 - Okay. 822 00:32:59,029 --> 00:33:00,170 - The bill would force trans students 823 00:33:00,190 --> 00:33:02,089 in public schools to use bathrooms 824 00:33:02,109 --> 00:33:04,089 according to their sex at birth. 825 00:33:04,109 --> 00:33:08,089 - Yeah, these are people commenting on the situation. 826 00:33:08,109 --> 00:33:09,130 "This is ridiculous. 827 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:11,119 "Transgender people should be able to use the bathroom 828 00:33:11,140 --> 00:33:12,170 like everyone else." 829 00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:14,059 Preach. 830 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:15,210 "You're wrong and you know it. 831 00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:17,130 "You were born a man and not a girl. 832 00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:20,150 #WhatHappenedtotheWorld." 833 00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:22,150 What happened to the world is got a better-- 834 00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:23,220 it became a better place. 835 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,190 - Yeah. 836 00:33:25,210 --> 00:33:26,220 - The bill proposed 837 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,099 by Republican state representative John Whitmer 838 00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,109 would prevent transgender students 839 00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:34,049 from using public school bathrooms and locker rooms 840 00:33:34,069 --> 00:33:36,079 of the gender they associate with. 841 00:33:36,099 --> 00:33:37,150 - If the bill passes, 842 00:33:37,170 --> 00:33:40,220 schools would have to pay $2,500 to students 843 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,019 who encounter a transgender student 844 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,049 in the bathroom. 845 00:33:44,069 --> 00:33:45,130 - This bill has put 846 00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:49,049 a $2,500 bounty 847 00:33:49,069 --> 00:33:52,170 on the head of every transgender child 848 00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:54,160 in the state of Kansas. 849 00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:57,130 Every school kid who's nonconforming 850 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:58,210 is going to be subject 851 00:33:58,230 --> 00:34:01,089 to the worst kinds of harassment 852 00:34:01,109 --> 00:34:05,089 that could lead to injury or, God forbid, death. 853 00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:09,190 And if this bill passes and if it gets signed 854 00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:12,219 by that man whose office is right behind us, 855 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,139 the blood will be on his hands 856 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,119 and on the hands of every legislator 857 00:34:17,139 --> 00:34:18,190 who votes in favor 858 00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:22,159 of this horrible nightmare of legislation. 859 00:34:22,179 --> 00:34:25,179 - Whoo! [cheers and applause] 860 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,099 - Hi. - Hi. I'm a reporter. 861 00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:33,059 I wondered if I could ask you a couple of questions. 862 00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:34,059 - Sure. - 'Kay. 863 00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,010 Why are you here today? 864 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:37,219 - 'Cause we have a transgender child, 865 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,019 so this matters to us. 866 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,139 If laws like this are enacted, 867 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,139 suddenly, kids who are seen as complete equals 868 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,199 by their peers 869 00:34:46,219 --> 00:34:48,199 are going to be outcast. 870 00:34:48,219 --> 00:34:50,000 They're gonna be ostracized. 871 00:34:50,019 --> 00:34:51,150 [dramatic music] 872 00:34:51,170 --> 00:34:54,130 - This bounty on transgender students 873 00:34:54,150 --> 00:34:57,000 is absurd and terrifying. 874 00:34:57,019 --> 00:35:00,119 They want to out and... 875 00:35:00,139 --> 00:35:03,150 just catch our kids in the bathroom 876 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:05,150 and get paid for it. 877 00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:08,070 ♪ ♪ 878 00:35:08,090 --> 00:35:11,150 - The sin du jour now is this transgender nonsense. 879 00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:14,099 Now we have to worry about what bathrooms we can go into 880 00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:16,150 and about what pronoun we're supposed to use. 881 00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:19,070 Ultimately, if you were born a female, 882 00:35:19,090 --> 00:35:22,070 you're gonna be a female all your days. 883 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:28,110 ♪ ♪ 884 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:30,139 - See what I mean? 885 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,179 - Let me see what pictures. 886 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:36,059 - This is from kindergarten. 887 00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,179 - Okay. - This-- 888 00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:40,170 - Well, somebody has your-- pictures of your yearbook. 889 00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:41,190 Somebody knows. 890 00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:42,210 - I just checked Snapchat, 891 00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:44,210 and we see all these text messages from Mildred, 892 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:46,090 like, "What's going on?" 893 00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:50,030 - Will she tell you who gave them to her? 894 00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:51,070 - That's what I'm about to ask her 895 00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:53,119 and see if she'll tell me who did it. 896 00:35:53,139 --> 00:35:56,079 - I know that you're used to hiding everything, 897 00:35:56,099 --> 00:35:58,119 but now it's kinda like-- 898 00:35:58,139 --> 00:36:00,119 you're gonna have to be open about everything now. 899 00:36:00,139 --> 00:36:02,059 There's no deception involved. - She can get on the phone. 900 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:03,070 - Huh? - In a second. 901 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:04,070 She can get on the phone in a second. 902 00:36:04,090 --> 00:36:05,119 - Okay. 903 00:36:05,139 --> 00:36:06,159 - Hello? 904 00:36:06,179 --> 00:36:07,159 - Hello. 905 00:36:07,179 --> 00:36:09,179 - Hey, do you wanna talk to my mom? 906 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:11,190 - Sure. 907 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,059 - Hey, honey. 908 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,070 So do you want me to explain it to you, or... 909 00:36:16,090 --> 00:36:17,099 - Yeah. 910 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:20,099 - Okay, well, Jay's transgender, 911 00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:23,230 which means female to male. 912 00:36:24,010 --> 00:36:26,110 The reason why we haven't really said anything to anybody 913 00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:28,110 is just because, I mean, Jay looks like a boy, 914 00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:29,190 he acts like a boy. 915 00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:31,039 That is who he is. He's Jay. 916 00:36:31,059 --> 00:36:33,130 He's--you know, he's not [...] anymore. 917 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:36,000 He's never gonna be [...] anymore. 918 00:36:36,019 --> 00:36:39,030 He just--he probably should've told you who he was, 919 00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:41,119 that he's trans, but he is Jay. 920 00:36:41,139 --> 00:36:43,219 He never lied to you about who he was, 921 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,090 if that makes sense. 922 00:36:45,110 --> 00:36:46,170 - Yeah. 923 00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:48,179 - So are you okay? 924 00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:49,179 - Yeah. 925 00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,219 - Okay. 926 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,230 Okay. 927 00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:55,099 The only thing that I ask you is... 928 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,150 find it in your heart not to kinda make this a joke 929 00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:59,070 at school or-- 930 00:36:59,090 --> 00:37:00,070 - Right. - You know. 931 00:37:00,090 --> 00:37:01,199 Because this really does affect his life 932 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:04,199 and how he feels about himself and who he is, 933 00:37:04,219 --> 00:37:09,019 and the damages of that in general are horrible 934 00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:12,099 outside of what you would see in school. 935 00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:13,130 It's a... - Yeah. 936 00:37:13,150 --> 00:37:16,050 - Difficult situation for anybody to have to endure. 937 00:37:16,070 --> 00:37:18,019 So... 938 00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:19,179 but I'll let you talk to Jay. 939 00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:20,230 - Okay. - Okay. 940 00:37:21,010 --> 00:37:23,179 ♪ ♪ 941 00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:25,030 - Hello? 942 00:37:25,050 --> 00:37:28,019 - Hello. 943 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:29,150 - Are you there? 944 00:37:29,170 --> 00:37:31,019 - Yeah. 945 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:32,190 - I'm sorry. 946 00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:33,199 - It's okay. 947 00:37:33,219 --> 00:37:34,210 - I just don't know-- 948 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:36,039 I just didn't know how to tell you 949 00:37:36,059 --> 00:37:39,170 'cause, like, it's really hard and nobody would understand it 950 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:41,110 and... 951 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:43,039 it's not easy being trans. 952 00:37:43,059 --> 00:37:46,170 It's really not, and I thought maybe if no one knew my past 953 00:37:46,190 --> 00:37:50,139 and no one knew that, then I could just be Jay 954 00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,070 and nobody would have to worry about it or-- 955 00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:55,050 or have to think different about me. 956 00:37:55,070 --> 00:37:56,230 Everybody would think I was just a guy 957 00:37:57,010 --> 00:37:58,130 and just go on with it, 958 00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:00,110 but I know that I-- 959 00:38:00,130 --> 00:38:01,170 I probably should've told you 960 00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:03,110 because it was probably important to tell you, 961 00:38:03,130 --> 00:38:06,170 and I'm sorry I didn't tell you earlier. 962 00:38:08,059 --> 00:38:10,059 - It's okay. 963 00:38:12,210 --> 00:38:15,050 - And I understand if you don't wanna talk to me 964 00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:17,019 or if you don't like me anymore. 965 00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:18,170 I understand. 966 00:38:18,190 --> 00:38:21,010 I'm really sorry. 967 00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:22,030 - Okay. 968 00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:24,000 - All right. Bye. 969 00:38:24,019 --> 00:38:25,130 - Bye. 970 00:38:25,150 --> 00:38:26,190 [phone beeps] 971 00:38:29,019 --> 00:38:30,059 - I-- 972 00:38:34,179 --> 00:38:37,230 [indistinct chatter] 973 00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:39,219 [light piano music] 974 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,090 - Can barely even see anybody. 975 00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:46,199 - Tensions with Zach's family have definitely increased. 976 00:38:46,219 --> 00:38:48,090 We started calling her "she" and "her," 977 00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:51,219 and that was just too much for them. 978 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,219 - My dad can't shut up 979 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,090 and keep his beliefs to himself. 980 00:38:54,110 --> 00:38:56,130 Saying, "You're going to Hell." 981 00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:58,139 It's almost like they're trying to push it on Phoenix 982 00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:01,190 to try and change her back into a boy or something. 983 00:39:01,210 --> 00:39:03,090 - All right, you remember-- I asked you girls, 984 00:39:03,110 --> 00:39:07,070 do you want ivory, pink, rosy, or purple, 985 00:39:07,090 --> 00:39:08,090 and you both said... 986 00:39:08,110 --> 00:39:09,150 both: Rosy. - All right. 987 00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:11,010 Close your eyes. 988 00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:12,070 Hold out your hands. 989 00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,019 Happy birthday. 990 00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:17,070 [both gasp] 991 00:39:17,090 --> 00:39:19,079 - [laughs] 992 00:39:19,099 --> 00:39:21,139 - Beautiful. - Flower crowns. 993 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,050 - It's a little strange 994 00:39:23,070 --> 00:39:24,190 that my parents wouldn't wanna be here 995 00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:27,119 when they were invited. 996 00:39:27,139 --> 00:39:28,130 If they don't wanna be here 997 00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:30,230 because of Phoenix being transgender, 998 00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:31,219 I can't make them. 999 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,079 I can't force them. 1000 00:39:33,099 --> 00:39:36,050 ♪ ♪ 1001 00:39:36,070 --> 00:39:39,099 - Also, we went to the bathroom bill protests, 1002 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,030 and I regret it. 1003 00:39:41,050 --> 00:39:45,000 It left an impression on Phoenix. 1004 00:39:45,019 --> 00:39:49,050 Like, regularly, she's afraid of us dying. 1005 00:39:49,070 --> 00:39:50,230 She's afraid of us dying and being left with someone 1006 00:39:51,010 --> 00:39:53,190 who'll make her go to the boys' bathroom. 1007 00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:56,190 ["Do-Re-Mi"] 1008 00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:58,199 ♪ ♪ 1009 00:39:58,219 --> 00:40:00,170 Sometimes I feel like... 1010 00:40:00,190 --> 00:40:02,059 I'm not giving Lotus enough attention. 1011 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:03,210 Like she's growing up without me. 1012 00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:07,139 I mean, I'm right there, but... 1013 00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:09,170 you know, Phoenix definitely takes up a lot of it, 1014 00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:12,019 and it's, like, not, like, her fault or anything. 1015 00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:14,039 It's just-- 1016 00:40:14,059 --> 00:40:15,030 I'm just always thinking, 1017 00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:17,059 "Am I doing the right thing here? 1018 00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:18,070 Is this the right choice?" 1019 00:40:18,090 --> 00:40:21,119 - Here, can you touch me? 1020 00:40:21,139 --> 00:40:23,090 - But then also, 1021 00:40:23,110 --> 00:40:25,119 Zephyr starts, like-- 1022 00:40:25,139 --> 00:40:27,050 he'll put on Lotus' clothes, 1023 00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:29,159 and he'll dance in them. 1024 00:40:29,179 --> 00:40:31,159 And I look at him, like, 1025 00:40:31,179 --> 00:40:33,090 "Please, not you too. 1026 00:40:33,110 --> 00:40:35,090 "Please be a boy. 1027 00:40:35,110 --> 00:40:37,150 "Don't be transgender. Don't be gender nonconforming. 1028 00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:38,199 Please be a boy." 1029 00:40:38,219 --> 00:40:40,050 - Mommy! 1030 00:40:40,070 --> 00:40:41,190 - "Can I please not have two?" 1031 00:40:41,210 --> 00:40:43,030 - Mommy. 1032 00:40:43,050 --> 00:40:45,119 all: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1033 00:40:45,139 --> 00:40:48,099 - I take pride in being okay. 1034 00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,030 And last night, I was not okay. 1035 00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:51,230 Today, I'm not okay. 1036 00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:56,070 all: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1037 00:40:56,090 --> 00:40:59,070 [laughter and cheering] 1038 00:40:59,090 --> 00:41:01,170 - Confetti! 1039 00:41:01,190 --> 00:41:04,059 ♪ ♪ 1040 00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:05,099 - Stop. - Nope. 1041 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:06,210 - Stop. Come here. 1042 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:08,230 Avery. - No! 1043 00:41:09,010 --> 00:41:11,010 - What are you gonna do when the guy gets here? 1044 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:12,030 - What guy? 1045 00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:15,010 - The photographer from "National Geographic." 1046 00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:16,170 - You put me in everything! 1047 00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:18,139 - Avery, we've-- - And I don't approve of it. 1048 00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:19,170 - We've talked about it. 1049 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:21,119 The problem is, you do approve things, 1050 00:41:21,139 --> 00:41:22,210 and then you change your mind. 1051 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:23,199 - No! 1052 00:41:23,219 --> 00:41:25,000 - I'm going to-- - No, you're not. 1053 00:41:25,019 --> 00:41:26,150 - If you don't get up and cooperate, 1054 00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:27,159 it's going off. 1055 00:41:27,179 --> 00:41:29,079 Avery. - Not right now. 1056 00:41:29,099 --> 00:41:30,210 Not if you can't find me! 1057 00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:32,230 - Okay. 1058 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:35,199 Makes you wanna just go out 1059 00:41:35,219 --> 00:41:39,000 and have a few kids, doesn't it? 1060 00:41:39,019 --> 00:41:40,170 Hello, Robin. 1061 00:41:40,190 --> 00:41:42,210 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you too. 1062 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,030 - Thanks for having me. - Yeah. 1063 00:41:44,050 --> 00:41:45,099 - Hello. - There's Avery. 1064 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:46,110 - Hello. - Don't be rude. 1065 00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:47,139 - Nice to meet you. 1066 00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:48,139 - Okay, I thought 1067 00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:50,019 that you were gonna have a British accent, 1068 00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:52,019 but it sounds like you're an Aussie? 1069 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:53,190 Or maybe a Kiwi? - A Kiwi. 1070 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:55,000 - Ah. 1071 00:41:55,019 --> 00:41:57,179 - So when I explained to you guys what-- 1072 00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:58,170 I mean, you kind of know, 1073 00:41:58,190 --> 00:42:00,059 but we're doing a whole issue on gender 1074 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,079 and "National Geographic," 1075 00:42:02,099 --> 00:42:05,170 and the story I'm doing is about 9-year-olds 1076 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:07,010 around the world. 1077 00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:09,059 So it's really important that we work super hard 1078 00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:12,130 to get an amazing picture of you. 1079 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:15,210 So that's gonna mean that I'm gonna request 1080 00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:17,159 that you're gonna have-- 1081 00:42:17,179 --> 00:42:18,170 give me some time 1082 00:42:18,190 --> 00:42:21,010 and be a little patient with me. 1083 00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:23,099 'Cause I'm gonna take a lot of pictures. 1084 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:24,179 I'll coach you through it. Don't worry. 1085 00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:27,199 [peaceful music] 1086 00:42:27,219 --> 00:42:29,079 ♪ ♪ 1087 00:42:29,099 --> 00:42:30,199 Are you ready? - Yes. 1088 00:42:30,219 --> 00:42:33,019 - So just relax your lips. - I'll try. 1089 00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:34,110 - Yeah. That's it. 1090 00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:36,050 [shutter clicks] 1091 00:42:36,070 --> 00:42:37,070 See? You're a natural. 1092 00:42:37,090 --> 00:42:38,199 [shutter clicks] 1093 00:42:38,219 --> 00:42:40,000 Let me see if this is gonna work. 1094 00:42:40,019 --> 00:42:41,070 - Nailed it. 1095 00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:42,119 [shutter clicks] 1096 00:42:42,139 --> 00:42:43,219 - Good. [shutter clicks] 1097 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,030 That's looking really good. 1098 00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:47,179 That's not so great. - That's not so great. 1099 00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:49,190 Avery. [shutter clicks] 1100 00:42:49,210 --> 00:42:52,170 - You just be yourself. That's awesome. 1101 00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:53,219 Stay there. 1102 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,070 Don't move. Do that. 1103 00:42:55,090 --> 00:42:56,070 What you're doing. 1104 00:42:56,090 --> 00:42:57,150 You did something really cool-- like that. 1105 00:42:57,170 --> 00:42:58,179 You went like that. Yeah, that's good for me. 1106 00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,059 - It feels like I'm meditating now. 1107 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,179 - You do look like you're kind of floating. 1108 00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:02,219 [shutter clicks] 1109 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,019 Good. Awesome. 1110 00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:05,070 You're actually very photogenic. 1111 00:43:05,090 --> 00:43:06,190 - I thought that was good. 1112 00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:09,199 [shutter clicks] 1113 00:43:09,219 --> 00:43:10,199 - Cara. 1114 00:43:10,219 --> 00:43:13,000 Her hair just flows. - Her hair, I know. 1115 00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:17,000 Mm-hmm. - I like that. 1116 00:43:17,019 --> 00:43:18,059 What's it look like on? 1117 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:22,039 Oh, God! - [laughs] 1118 00:43:22,059 --> 00:43:25,079 - Half the freaking dress is missing. 1119 00:43:25,099 --> 00:43:27,199 You pay $4,000 for a piece of clothing 1120 00:43:27,219 --> 00:43:29,230 that doesn't even cover both of your boobs. 1121 00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:31,010 [both laugh] 1122 00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:33,110 - Cathy knew me before my transition. 1123 00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:36,159 We've been best friends for about four years now. 1124 00:43:36,179 --> 00:43:38,110 Super exciting that I can have someone 1125 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:42,099 who's there for me 100% throughout my transition. 1126 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,119 I would love to model for them. 1127 00:43:44,139 --> 00:43:46,099 - Are you gonna do anything about modeling? 1128 00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,039 - I've been thinking about it a lot, 1129 00:43:48,059 --> 00:43:49,219 and I'm almost 17 1130 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,170 and that's a year away from being 18, and... 1131 00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:54,099 once you're 18, you really have to start thinking 1132 00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,079 about your career and where you're going with that, 1133 00:43:56,099 --> 00:43:57,210 'cause I don't wanna be, like, 30 years old, 1134 00:43:57,230 --> 00:43:59,090 like, "Yes, I'm still gonna make it." 1135 00:43:59,110 --> 00:44:02,050 [both laugh] "Just wait." 1136 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,010 Hi. - Hi. 1137 00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:08,099 I'm Becky. - Nice to meet you. 1138 00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,000 I'm Leena. - Nice to meet you. 1139 00:44:10,019 --> 00:44:11,010 Hi. - Hi, Becky. I'm Cathy. 1140 00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:12,099 - Hi. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 1141 00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:13,110 - I'm Michael. - Hi. 1142 00:44:13,130 --> 00:44:14,159 Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 1143 00:44:14,179 --> 00:44:16,199 - You guys can have a seat here. 1144 00:44:16,219 --> 00:44:19,139 - My goal is to do modeling and fashion 1145 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:20,230 for big name corporations 1146 00:44:21,010 --> 00:44:22,110 'cause I wanna model for, like, Dior, 1147 00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:24,079 and my biggest top of my list 1148 00:44:24,099 --> 00:44:26,010 is I wanna model for Victoria's Secret. 1149 00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:27,059 - Okay. 1150 00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:29,159 So we do a two-year contract. 1151 00:44:29,179 --> 00:44:31,130 It's exclusive here in Kansas City. 1152 00:44:31,150 --> 00:44:32,219 We just wanna stick here to start with, 1153 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,019 see how you progress, 1154 00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:35,210 and then we can kind of, you know, shoot you out there 1155 00:44:35,230 --> 00:44:37,190 to some other places. 1156 00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:40,039 We do have KC Fashion Week coming up. 1157 00:44:40,059 --> 00:44:42,170 They're getting ready to have castings 1158 00:44:42,190 --> 00:44:44,090 on the 10th, 13th, and 20th, 1159 00:44:44,110 --> 00:44:45,179 so that would be the very first thing 1160 00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:46,230 I would try to send you on. 1161 00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:48,030 - Yeah. 1162 00:44:48,050 --> 00:44:50,099 Where my passion is just the, like, runway aspect of it. 1163 00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,010 - Yeah, absolutely. - So-- 1164 00:44:52,030 --> 00:44:53,210 - Okay, let's shoot some headshots. 1165 00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:57,019 ♪ ♪ 1166 00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,090 - It started early. 1167 00:44:59,110 --> 00:45:01,130 We were divorced, and there was two separate households, 1168 00:45:01,150 --> 00:45:04,090 and 6, 7 years old, and she would tell us, 1169 00:45:04,110 --> 00:45:05,090 "I'm a little girl," 1170 00:45:05,110 --> 00:45:07,050 and I'm like, "You have no idea. 1171 00:45:07,070 --> 00:45:08,130 You don't." 1172 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:10,050 I don't know how many times she would come back 1173 00:45:10,070 --> 00:45:12,010 and tell both of us, "I am, I am, I am." 1174 00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:13,150 - I just always knew, 1175 00:45:13,170 --> 00:45:16,110 but it was trying to figure out 1176 00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:18,199 what the right, like, words were 1177 00:45:18,219 --> 00:45:20,230 to use for it. 1178 00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:22,190 At first, yeah, I came out to my parents 1179 00:45:22,210 --> 00:45:24,030 as, "I'm gay." 1180 00:45:24,050 --> 00:45:26,230 - She wrote her dad and I this book, 1181 00:45:27,010 --> 00:45:29,219 kinda help us understand what she was feeling inside. 1182 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,030 ♪ ♪ 1183 00:45:34,050 --> 00:45:35,179 I love every page of it 1184 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:40,110 because it was written from her heart. 1185 00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:43,179 - It kinda opened my eyes. 1186 00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:45,099 - And then I started researching more and more, 1187 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,090 and I was like, "I'm not gay. 1188 00:45:47,110 --> 00:45:48,130 "I'm transgender, 1189 00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:51,059 and I just didn't know the word for it." 1190 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:52,210 - I mean, it was--it was-- it was difficult. 1191 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,210 I ain't gonna lie. It was difficult. 1192 00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:56,119 It was much more-- 1193 00:45:56,139 --> 00:45:58,019 easier transition for my ex-wife 1194 00:45:58,039 --> 00:45:59,079 than it was for me. 1195 00:45:59,099 --> 00:46:03,159 - She was very adamant about, "Okay, I am a girl, 1196 00:46:03,179 --> 00:46:06,039 "and I need you guys to understand 1197 00:46:06,059 --> 00:46:08,210 that nothing you say is gonna make a difference." 1198 00:46:10,099 --> 00:46:13,119 - At that time, we started letting her grow her hair out, 1199 00:46:13,139 --> 00:46:16,099 become a little more effeminate. 1200 00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:19,110 And then between the summer of eighth and ninth grade, 1201 00:46:19,130 --> 00:46:21,190 that's--we as a family sat down and said, 1202 00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:24,150 you know, "If this is who you truly are, 1203 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:26,019 then this is the time to do it." 1204 00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:32,030 ♪ ♪ 1205 00:46:32,050 --> 00:46:34,179 - I wouldn't tell the people who I was auditioning for 1206 00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,170 that I was transgender necessarily 1207 00:46:36,190 --> 00:46:38,210 just because it's none of their business and-- 1208 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:40,090 - Maybe that's what they're looking for. 1209 00:46:40,110 --> 00:46:41,230 Maybe they're looking for someone like you. 1210 00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:43,179 - Well, I mean, if they're looking for a trans model, 1211 00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,170 then I'll say I'm a trans model, you know. 1212 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:47,179 - If they ask, you be honest. 1213 00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:49,130 You're not ashamed of anything. 1214 00:46:49,150 --> 00:46:51,170 But I wouldn't offer any information. 1215 00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:54,070 Don't give 'em any more than what they need to know. 1216 00:46:54,090 --> 00:46:55,050 - Now it's a different story 1217 00:46:55,070 --> 00:46:57,199 if I go in and I'm doing gown auditions 1218 00:46:57,219 --> 00:46:59,050 whether than, 1219 00:46:59,070 --> 00:47:02,190 "We want you in a bikini," you know, 1220 00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:07,019 because I wanna do VS, you know, and I wanna do-- 1221 00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:09,030 - That's pretty skimpy. - That type of modeling. 1222 00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:10,030 - Yeah. 1223 00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:12,170 - More along the lines of less-- 1224 00:47:12,190 --> 00:47:13,170 - Yeah, but say-- 1225 00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:15,119 - Couture and gowns and all that. 1226 00:47:15,139 --> 00:47:17,050 More along the lines of-- 1227 00:47:17,070 --> 00:47:19,070 - Yeah, but let's say-- - VS, you know. 1228 00:47:19,090 --> 00:47:20,150 - Let's say right now, you're just doing 1229 00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:23,099 some "mom and pop" type of things, you know. 1230 00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:24,110 And then-- - Well, yeah, it's-- 1231 00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:25,230 - Say in a couple years, well, maybe we'd-- 1232 00:47:26,010 --> 00:47:27,070 - I don't think I would tell them, no. 1233 00:47:27,090 --> 00:47:28,119 - You know, maybe in a couple years, 1234 00:47:28,139 --> 00:47:30,050 when you do have the surgery, 1235 00:47:30,070 --> 00:47:32,059 then we won't have to worry about your bikini 1236 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:33,230 or anything that--you know? 1237 00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:36,219 - Just, I don't want someone to look at me 1238 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,190 and question my womanhood, 1239 00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:40,050 'cause I don't wanna do that 1240 00:47:40,070 --> 00:47:41,090 and I don't wanna go down that road. 1241 00:47:41,110 --> 00:47:42,210 - Sure. Absolutely. 1242 00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:47,219 [buzzing and chirping] 1243 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,059 - I'm the chef. 1244 00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,150 Do you--how much do you want? 1245 00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:05,119 [humming] 1246 00:48:05,139 --> 00:48:07,079 - So how come you and Mildred can't be friends? 1247 00:48:07,099 --> 00:48:09,110 Like, why does she say to you that you can't-- 1248 00:48:09,130 --> 00:48:12,230 - Because her mom doesn't like that I'm transgender. 1249 00:48:13,010 --> 00:48:15,030 - Like, how do you know that? What did Mildred tell you? 1250 00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:16,090 I would like to know that. 1251 00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:17,190 - Her mom basically said 1252 00:48:17,210 --> 00:48:19,199 she doesn't want her talking to me or being near me 1253 00:48:19,219 --> 00:48:22,010 because I am the way I am. 1254 00:48:22,030 --> 00:48:23,110 - Really? - Yep. 1255 00:48:23,130 --> 00:48:24,110 Remember when she pulled up 1256 00:48:24,130 --> 00:48:26,000 at the parking lot the other day? 1257 00:48:26,019 --> 00:48:27,019 - Yeah, and she circled around 1258 00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:28,070 'cause she didn't wanna park by us? 1259 00:48:28,090 --> 00:48:29,070 - Yeah. 1260 00:48:29,090 --> 00:48:30,070 - Is it all because you're trans? 1261 00:48:30,090 --> 00:48:31,070 - Yep. 1262 00:48:31,090 --> 00:48:32,139 - Does she even understand what transgender is? 1263 00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:33,139 - Probably not. 1264 00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:34,139 - That's kinda cool now that-- 1265 00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,000 I mean, 'cause now you're seeing the true light 1266 00:48:36,019 --> 00:48:37,119 of, like, how she is and how fast she moves on. 1267 00:48:37,139 --> 00:48:38,190 - Okay, this is what I'm talking about. 1268 00:48:38,210 --> 00:48:41,070 This is not--why I did not wanna talk about this. 1269 00:48:41,090 --> 00:48:42,090 - I'm just saying. 1270 00:48:42,110 --> 00:48:43,170 - No, 'cause you get very defensive-- 1271 00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:45,039 - I'm not defensive. - And you bring up it all up. 1272 00:48:45,059 --> 00:48:47,050 - I'm just saying. 1273 00:48:53,099 --> 00:48:54,199 Sorry. 1274 00:48:54,219 --> 00:48:57,079 [gentle dramatic music] 1275 00:48:57,099 --> 00:48:58,159 Jay. 1276 00:48:58,179 --> 00:49:00,230 - I didn't like how you outed me 1277 00:49:01,010 --> 00:49:02,070 to her mom. 1278 00:49:02,090 --> 00:49:04,000 I don't like how you did that. 1279 00:49:04,019 --> 00:49:07,150 But I had no say in it, because you were mad. 1280 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:10,039 - I was wrong for doing that, but at the same time, 1281 00:49:10,059 --> 00:49:13,070 I watched this relationship for ten months go down, 1282 00:49:13,090 --> 00:49:15,090 and I didn't ever interfere, 1283 00:49:15,110 --> 00:49:17,070 but when somebody's mother comes to me 1284 00:49:17,090 --> 00:49:18,110 and says I need to love my son more 1285 00:49:18,130 --> 00:49:21,019 and support him more because he's highly emotional, 1286 00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:22,159 that's when I got angry. 1287 00:49:22,179 --> 00:49:23,170 - I understand that. 1288 00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:25,130 - Because she was basically patronizing me 1289 00:49:25,150 --> 00:49:27,039 and being condescending on the phone. 1290 00:49:27,059 --> 00:49:29,119 - Coming out is my decision. 1291 00:49:29,139 --> 00:49:31,070 - Mildred's mo--parents should have known 1292 00:49:31,090 --> 00:49:34,139 that you were trans from the get-go, I feel. 1293 00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:35,210 - And you know we were gonna tell 'em, 1294 00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:37,010 but we just didn't know how. 1295 00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:38,219 - But it had been ten months, and you hadn't said anything 1296 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,230 and now you know why 1297 00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:41,090 she didn't wanna ever tell her parents. 1298 00:49:41,110 --> 00:49:43,010 Because now she can't even look at us. 1299 00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:44,210 She won't even park her car next to us at a soccer-- 1300 00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:48,010 at the soccer field. 1301 00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:49,039 - Okay. 1302 00:49:49,059 --> 00:49:50,190 - So she never had planned on telling her parents. 1303 00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:52,159 - Okay. 1304 00:49:52,179 --> 00:49:58,170 ♪ ♪ 1305 00:49:58,190 --> 00:50:00,119 - Oh, my goodness. 1306 00:50:00,139 --> 00:50:07,150 ♪ ♪ 1307 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:12,010 - You know, like, sometimes you think 1308 00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:15,010 there's not a reason to be here. 1309 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:17,110 That runs through my head a lot. 1310 00:50:17,130 --> 00:50:19,050 I just think about all the times 1311 00:50:19,070 --> 00:50:22,110 people have not accepted who I am. 1312 00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:26,039 Sometimes, I say that I'm going to take my life. 1313 00:50:26,059 --> 00:50:29,000 And you're just like, "No, you can't do this," 1314 00:50:29,019 --> 00:50:30,119 and you just, like-- all of a sudden, 1315 00:50:30,139 --> 00:50:32,170 it's just, like, come out of that moment, 1316 00:50:32,190 --> 00:50:35,099 and you're just like, "Why am I doing this?" 1317 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:41,090 ♪ ♪ 1318 00:50:41,110 --> 00:50:43,010 It's just hard. 1319 00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:44,110 You don't know what's gonna happen. 1320 00:50:44,130 --> 00:50:46,230 People these days-- they could do anything. 1321 00:50:47,010 --> 00:50:50,039 ♪ ♪ 1322 00:50:50,059 --> 00:50:52,230 - Right now, a terror attack on a gay nightclub. 1323 00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:54,230 - My son was in there with his boyfriend 1324 00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,039 and two other guys. 1325 00:50:57,059 --> 00:50:59,070 They heard about 20 shots. 1326 00:50:59,090 --> 00:51:00,070 [gunshots] - Get outta here. 1327 00:51:00,090 --> 00:51:01,179 - Oh, my God, dude. 1328 00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:03,230 - It went bang, bang, bang, bang. 1329 00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:05,190 - This weekend, Avery's supposed to be 1330 00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:08,099 the grand marshal in one of the local Pride parades, 1331 00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:11,010 but we are rethinking that right now 1332 00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:13,059 with everything that's happened in Orlando. 1333 00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:14,150 - Come on out. 1334 00:51:14,170 --> 00:51:18,159 - We have the reality of our family being so visible 1335 00:51:18,179 --> 00:51:21,159 that we're easy targets. 1336 00:51:21,179 --> 00:51:24,110 So we need to check in with her. 1337 00:51:24,130 --> 00:51:28,130 ♪ ♪ 1338 00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:30,210 I've been talking to the police, 1339 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:34,059 and I even had a meeting with the FBI today. 1340 00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:38,119 They wanna make sure that you are completely safe 1341 00:51:38,139 --> 00:51:42,090 if you decide you still want to go to the parade. 1342 00:51:42,110 --> 00:51:45,150 If you don't want to do it, 1343 00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:47,190 that's okay, and we can talk about that. 1344 00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:50,000 So they said they don't want you to feel scared. 1345 00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:52,019 - I don't wanna go to the parade. 1346 00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:54,139 - You don't? - No, I don't wanna die. 1347 00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:56,230 I don't wanna--I don't wanna. 1348 00:51:57,010 --> 00:51:57,230 - Okay. 1349 00:51:58,010 --> 00:52:01,070 - I don't wanna go to the parade anymore. 1350 00:52:01,090 --> 00:52:04,070 - Okay. 1351 00:52:04,090 --> 00:52:08,090 You know, this is a lot for anyone to process, 1352 00:52:08,110 --> 00:52:10,050 so we don't wanna push her on those decisions 1353 00:52:10,070 --> 00:52:12,059 and make her feel like she's forced to do something 1354 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,150 she doesn't wanna do. 1355 00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:21,199 - You guys wanna make a wish? 1356 00:52:21,219 --> 00:52:24,130 So you make a wish, and then you throw it in there. 1357 00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:25,139 Or you throw it in there 1358 00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:26,159 and make a wish at the same time. 1359 00:52:26,179 --> 00:52:28,000 I'm not sure how it works, but-- 1360 00:52:28,019 --> 00:52:29,090 - Guess what I-- - [laughs] 1361 00:52:29,110 --> 00:52:31,230 Just, like, dump all the change in there. 1362 00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:33,130 - You want one? - Yes. 1363 00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:36,139 I wish Phoenix would tell us how she's feeling 1364 00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:38,050 instead of acting out. 1365 00:52:38,070 --> 00:52:40,159 ♪ ♪ 1366 00:52:40,179 --> 00:52:45,030 [both giggling] 1367 00:52:45,050 --> 00:52:48,000 This has been a stressful year. 1368 00:52:48,019 --> 00:52:49,190 - We've cut people like my family 1369 00:52:49,210 --> 00:52:52,059 out of my life. 1370 00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:57,030 It has just been so much, mentally, to deal with. 1371 00:52:57,050 --> 00:52:59,139 - I'm just frazzled every day, 1372 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:02,030 and I apparently don't handle stress well. 1373 00:53:02,050 --> 00:53:03,139 - Whoa! - Wee! 1374 00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:04,210 [giggling] 1375 00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:06,010 - You need to be the homeschooler, 1376 00:53:06,030 --> 00:53:07,019 and I need to work full-time. 1377 00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:08,150 - You can go do that and I'll stay at home. 1378 00:53:08,170 --> 00:53:10,150 - Mm-hmm. We will do that. 1379 00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:14,000 I can go away from the kids and hang out with adults. 1380 00:53:14,019 --> 00:53:15,190 - I might get a little lonely. 1381 00:53:15,210 --> 00:53:17,099 - Yes, the at-home parent gets lonely. 1382 00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:18,210 That's what happens. 1383 00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:22,079 [bell rings] - [giggles] 1384 00:53:22,099 --> 00:53:25,090 - We are considering getting divorced or separated. 1385 00:53:27,099 --> 00:53:28,230 Our marriage has baggage. 1386 00:53:29,010 --> 00:53:32,179 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1387 00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:34,000 - It's a confusing time. 1388 00:53:34,019 --> 00:53:40,079 ♪ ♪ 1389 00:53:40,099 --> 00:53:41,119 - I don't really know 1390 00:53:41,139 --> 00:53:44,099 if they're getting divorced or not. 1391 00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:47,199 I think that our family should stay together 1392 00:53:47,219 --> 00:53:50,150 and not get divorced. 1393 00:53:50,170 --> 00:53:53,019 But it's so-- 1394 00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:55,230 but I also think it's okay either way. 1395 00:53:56,010 --> 00:53:58,230 [hopeful music] 1396 00:53:59,010 --> 00:54:06,000 ♪ ♪ 1397 00:54:06,019 --> 00:54:08,150 - Avery, Anson, come here. 1398 00:54:08,170 --> 00:54:10,219 I wanna show you something. 1399 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,000 - [panting] 1400 00:54:15,019 --> 00:54:16,050 Yeah? 1401 00:54:16,070 --> 00:54:18,159 - What do you think of that? 1402 00:54:18,179 --> 00:54:20,039 - Amazing. - Oh, my gosh. 1403 00:54:20,059 --> 00:54:22,039 Look at you. 1404 00:54:22,059 --> 00:54:24,230 - It's amazing. - Look at your face. 1405 00:54:25,010 --> 00:54:27,130 That is a fierce kid right there. 1406 00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:29,150 Look at the quote that they have for you. 1407 00:54:29,170 --> 00:54:31,079 - "The best thing about being a girl 1408 00:54:31,099 --> 00:54:35,079 is now I don't have to pretend to be a boy." 1409 00:54:35,099 --> 00:54:37,070 Cool. - I'm so proud of you. 1410 00:54:37,090 --> 00:54:38,110 - My gar! - Mwah. 1411 00:54:38,130 --> 00:54:40,159 - [grunts] - Oh, my goodness. 1412 00:54:40,179 --> 00:54:43,130 ♪ ♪ 1413 00:54:43,150 --> 00:54:46,070 - We moved in with my parents, just the kids and I, 1414 00:54:46,090 --> 00:54:49,050 while Zach was out of town. 1415 00:54:49,070 --> 00:54:52,079 Zach and I are divorcing. 1416 00:54:52,099 --> 00:54:53,199 When we first got married, I was really young 1417 00:54:53,219 --> 00:54:55,079 and trying to find my way, 1418 00:54:55,099 --> 00:54:58,219 but right now, I'm ready to move on. 1419 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,039 Currently working on... 1420 00:55:02,059 --> 00:55:03,110 getting the kids in school 1421 00:55:03,130 --> 00:55:07,010 and getting our legal stuff figured out. 1422 00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:09,059 Lots of changes for the kids. 1423 00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:11,219 And Phoenix is sorta just fine. 1424 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,190 She's just like, "Eh. 1425 00:55:13,210 --> 00:55:15,059 We live here now. Whatever." 1426 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,130 Just-- 1427 00:55:17,150 --> 00:55:19,090 [laughing] I don't know. 1428 00:55:19,110 --> 00:55:24,119 ♪ ♪ 1429 00:55:24,139 --> 00:55:27,130 - Now I'm a junior, so... 1430 00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:29,219 oh, my God, I'm a junior. 1431 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,130 - This is my freshman. 1432 00:55:31,150 --> 00:55:33,079 He won't let me drop him off in front of the school. 1433 00:55:33,099 --> 00:55:35,010 I have to drop him off at the corner. 1434 00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:36,039 - [laughs] - He won't-- 1435 00:55:36,059 --> 00:55:37,050 [smooches] - [groans] 1436 00:55:37,070 --> 00:55:40,139 - Let me kiss him either in front of everybody. 1437 00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:41,219 I'm getting emotional. 1438 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,099 [sighs] 1439 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:44,139 - Stop. - Oh. 1440 00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,019 You're in high school. 1441 00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,139 - Oh, my God. - [laughs] 1442 00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:50,210 And you have your first pimple. 1443 00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:53,230 - Oh, my God. - [laughs] 1444 00:55:54,010 --> 00:55:59,070 ♪ ♪ 1445 00:55:59,090 --> 00:56:01,010 - I'll probably just go home, 1446 00:56:01,030 --> 00:56:02,170 but, like, aren't you going over 1447 00:56:02,190 --> 00:56:05,099 to Brian's house later? 1448 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:07,199 - All he wants to do is just cuddle and sleep. 1449 00:56:07,219 --> 00:56:09,059 - [laughs] 1450 00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:12,010 - So I asked him, like, "Why am I, like, an exception, 1451 00:56:12,030 --> 00:56:15,030 I guess, to, like, the norm that you would usually date?" 1452 00:56:15,050 --> 00:56:16,219 And he's like, "Oh, because I love you for you 1453 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,150 and not who you are, like, physically." 1454 00:56:19,170 --> 00:56:21,110 He's like, "Yeah, I love your, like, physical," 1455 00:56:21,130 --> 00:56:24,110 but he's like, "But you-- you're just on a-- 1456 00:56:24,130 --> 00:56:25,150 I guess"--what is that called? 1457 00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:26,159 Like, emotional? - Emotional? 1458 00:56:26,179 --> 00:56:27,199 - Yeah, I guess. - Yeah. 1459 00:56:27,219 --> 00:56:29,170 - Emotional level. 1460 00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:31,110 I think that's where he likes me, which is good, 1461 00:56:31,130 --> 00:56:33,159 but I don't know, I just was getting in my feelings, 1462 00:56:33,179 --> 00:56:35,000 and I was like-- 1463 00:56:35,019 --> 00:56:37,030 what happens if he goes off and leaves me? 1464 00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:38,110 - He's not. - [laughs] 1465 00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:40,190 - 'Cause you know that saying where you're-- 1466 00:56:40,210 --> 00:56:42,130 both: Where you're your own biggest critic? 1467 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:43,139 Yeah. - Yeah. 1468 00:56:43,159 --> 00:56:46,139 - But imagine being, like, you 1469 00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:47,139 and then looking in the mirror 1470 00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:49,059 and seeing, like, a six-foot gorilla 1471 00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:51,070 and so you're like, "Oh, God, what is that?" 1472 00:56:51,090 --> 00:56:52,099 - Yeah. 1473 00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:54,190 - If I could change something, 1474 00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:56,219 it'd be, like, the one thing with me being trans, 1475 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,050 like, my SRS. 1476 00:56:58,070 --> 00:57:00,039 Sexual reassignment surgery. - Mm-hmm. 1477 00:57:00,059 --> 00:57:01,050 - But that's it. - Mm-hmm. 1478 00:57:01,070 --> 00:57:02,199 - Like, I don't want anything else done. 1479 00:57:02,219 --> 00:57:05,079 - Yeah. 1480 00:57:05,099 --> 00:57:07,110 - Are these leggings, or are these your pants? 1481 00:57:07,130 --> 00:57:08,110 - These are leggings. 1482 00:57:08,130 --> 00:57:09,190 - Oh. 1483 00:57:17,090 --> 00:57:19,070 - Everything's looking good with your-- 1484 00:57:19,090 --> 00:57:20,119 - Hormones. - Yeah, your hormones? 1485 00:57:20,139 --> 00:57:22,070 Your estrogen, your-- - Go where I wanna go. 1486 00:57:22,090 --> 00:57:24,230 I think the thing that we need to look into now most of all 1487 00:57:25,010 --> 00:57:26,119 is we need to find a surgeon, first off, 1488 00:57:26,139 --> 00:57:29,159 that we wanna go with and see what their things are 1489 00:57:29,179 --> 00:57:33,070 on insurance and payment and long-term and all of that, 1490 00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:36,030 because I'm not gonna pay $35,000 up front I don't think. 1491 00:57:36,050 --> 00:57:38,070 - In another year or two, you know, 1492 00:57:38,090 --> 00:57:40,179 even after you graduate, year and a half, two years, 1493 00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:42,079 maybe new laws have passed on insurance and-- 1494 00:57:42,099 --> 00:57:43,190 - I mean, I understand that, but I just-- 1495 00:57:43,210 --> 00:57:44,219 - I don't know. All sorts of stuff. 1496 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,070 - I just can't wait. 1497 00:57:46,090 --> 00:57:47,190 - SRS, it's a major-- - Major surgery. 1498 00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:49,139 - Yeah, it's a major surgery. Something different. 1499 00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:51,199 It's not, you know, something that they do every day. 1500 00:57:51,219 --> 00:57:53,170 - It's not getting your appendix taken out. 1501 00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:55,019 - Yeah, you know, if something happened, 1502 00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:56,199 blood loss, loss to your heart rate or-- 1503 00:57:56,219 --> 00:57:58,019 you know, whatever the case may be, 1504 00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:00,110 and we lost you... 1505 00:58:00,130 --> 00:58:02,210 Let's--we really need to think about this. 1506 00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:05,210 [dramatic music] 1507 00:58:05,230 --> 00:58:07,230 ♪ ♪ 1508 00:58:08,010 --> 00:58:10,010 - But I don't think it's for everyone, 1509 00:58:10,030 --> 00:58:11,190 and it doesn't make you any less of a woman 1510 00:58:11,210 --> 00:58:13,190 or any more of a woman because you have it, 1511 00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:15,019 but for me personally, 1512 00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:18,000 I don't feel like I could live, like, in this-- 1513 00:58:18,019 --> 00:58:19,219 in the body that I have now 1514 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,199 for the rest of my life without being upset by it. 1515 00:58:21,219 --> 00:58:22,230 - I know. 1516 00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:30,019 ♪ ♪ 1517 00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:36,130 - Ladies and gentlemen, girls and boys, 1518 00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:39,000 please welcome to the field 1519 00:58:39,019 --> 00:58:41,059 your Kansas City Titans. 1520 00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:43,019 - Lanie's out there. You see her? 1521 00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:44,059 There she is. - Yeah. 1522 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:45,190 - Where? - She's 21. 1523 00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:48,079 Defensive lineman. - Oh! 1524 00:58:48,099 --> 00:58:52,019 - My mom met Lanie not even a month ago. 1525 00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:53,059 - Right there. She's right there. 1526 00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:54,079 - I know. 1527 00:58:54,099 --> 00:58:57,210 I met Lanie late one night on Facebook. 1528 00:58:57,230 --> 00:58:59,039 Just started out as a friendship, 1529 00:58:59,059 --> 00:59:02,170 and then it grew into a crazy love story 1530 00:59:02,190 --> 00:59:05,099 like something you would see in a movie. 1531 00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:07,019 Never thought it would happen. 1532 00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:09,119 I mean, it hit me... 1533 00:59:09,139 --> 00:59:10,119 like a storm. 1534 00:59:10,139 --> 00:59:11,150 - Go, Lanie! 1535 00:59:11,170 --> 00:59:14,030 - 21, Lanie Ford of the Titans says-- 1536 00:59:14,050 --> 00:59:16,039 - Oh, go! - "You're not getting by me." 1537 00:59:16,059 --> 00:59:19,030 - Go, Lanie! [cheers and applause] 1538 00:59:19,050 --> 00:59:21,190 [laughter] 1539 00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:23,190 - Jay is very needy with his mom. 1540 00:59:23,210 --> 00:59:27,150 I'm very needy with his mom, so... 1541 00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:30,199 it's fireworks a lot. 1542 00:59:30,219 --> 00:59:32,150 I'm gonna try to bond with him. 1543 00:59:32,170 --> 00:59:34,090 He never really wants to hang out with me right now, 1544 00:59:34,110 --> 00:59:38,050 but I'm sure that'll change the more I'm here. 1545 00:59:38,070 --> 00:59:39,099 You know, "I gotta go to the store. 1546 00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:41,010 Do you wanna go with me?" 1547 00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:43,059 One-on-one time. I know it's baby steps. 1548 00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:46,019 I hated my stepdad for, like, ten years 1549 00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:48,130 and then woke up one day and was like, "Oh. 1550 00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:50,199 This man's here to help me, and he loves me." 1551 00:59:50,219 --> 00:59:52,030 And ever since that happened, 1552 00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:54,039 he became one of my best friends. 1553 00:59:56,019 --> 00:59:59,039 - Come on. Let's go. 1554 00:59:59,059 --> 01:00:00,159 Stretch. 1555 01:00:00,179 --> 01:00:04,119 [door creaks] 1556 01:00:04,139 --> 01:00:07,159 - "National Geographic" put a 9-year-old boy, 1557 01:00:07,179 --> 01:00:08,170 emphasis on boy, 1558 01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:11,030 who wants people to think he's really a girl 1559 01:00:11,050 --> 01:00:13,050 on the January cover of the magazine. 1560 01:00:13,070 --> 01:00:14,059 - That's the article, 1561 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:17,070 this wicked, satanic movement that's promoted 1562 01:00:17,090 --> 01:00:19,199 and messed around with this poor young man's mind. 1563 01:00:19,219 --> 01:00:21,230 - God has made us male and female. 1564 01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:23,130 - You know, a person who's turning themselves 1565 01:00:23,150 --> 01:00:26,070 into a transgender is some kind of a creature. 1566 01:00:26,090 --> 01:00:27,159 - Like this Avery young person. 1567 01:00:27,179 --> 01:00:29,150 - Same exact people. 1568 01:00:29,170 --> 01:00:32,010 - How does he define himself as a "girl?" 1569 01:00:32,030 --> 01:00:33,010 - Right. 1570 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:37,210 - What "National Geographic" has on its cover 1571 01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:40,219 is pedophilia. 1572 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,219 [tense music] 1573 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:49,130 ♪ ♪ 1574 01:00:49,150 --> 01:00:51,079 - "National Geographic" is something 1575 01:00:51,099 --> 01:00:52,210 that we're very proud of. 1576 01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:54,050 I also think it's something 1577 01:00:54,070 --> 01:00:56,150 that has caused a lot of turmoil 1578 01:00:56,170 --> 01:00:59,119 in our life for the last month. 1579 01:00:59,139 --> 01:01:01,159 - I got a message 1580 01:01:01,179 --> 01:01:04,079 from my mom and dad 1581 01:01:04,099 --> 01:01:06,119 that they're not happy about seeing you 1582 01:01:06,139 --> 01:01:08,010 on "National Geographic" and stuff, 1583 01:01:08,030 --> 01:01:12,139 and they think that we have put you out there 1584 01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,150 trying to get fame and attention, 1585 01:01:15,170 --> 01:01:18,230 and they're worried that you will never be able 1586 01:01:19,010 --> 01:01:22,219 to come back later now that people have seen you 1587 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,070 on such a big stage 1588 01:01:25,090 --> 01:01:26,219 and tell us that you're really a boy 1589 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,170 and you wanna go back to living like a boy. 1590 01:01:28,190 --> 01:01:31,130 'Cause that's what they seem to think. 1591 01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:34,210 Do you think you're gonna ever wanna go back 1592 01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:36,090 to just living like a boy? 1593 01:01:36,110 --> 01:01:38,110 - No. - Why not? 1594 01:01:38,130 --> 01:01:41,050 - Because I'm a girl, I guess. 1595 01:01:41,070 --> 01:01:43,199 I don't really know how to answer the question. 1596 01:01:43,219 --> 01:01:50,210 ♪ ♪ 1597 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,070 Good Meat. Good Meat. 1598 01:01:54,090 --> 01:01:56,050 Good, good, good, good, good Meat. 1599 01:01:56,070 --> 01:01:58,019 Good Meat. 1600 01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:00,019 [exhales] 1601 01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:05,230 ♪ ♪ 1602 01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:07,219 - The inauguration of the 45th U.S. president 1603 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,030 now in the books-- 1604 01:02:09,050 --> 01:02:12,099 - TVs across Kansas City broadcasting the inauguration. 1605 01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:14,079 - Now that Trump is our president, 1606 01:02:14,099 --> 01:02:15,119 that does worry me 1607 01:02:15,139 --> 01:02:17,110 just because of all the transgender inequality stuff. 1608 01:02:17,130 --> 01:02:19,019 I am just in fear all the time. 1609 01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:20,179 - We're more than a thousand miles 1610 01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:22,139 from the heart of it all in Washington, D.C., 1611 01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:24,019 but that did not stop Kansas Citians 1612 01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:25,019 from tuning in. 1613 01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:26,219 Many people I spoke with off-camera 1614 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,179 still not comfortable with President Donald Trump. 1615 01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:31,190 - Transgenders here in the metro worry 1616 01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:33,059 about what may happen next. 1617 01:02:33,079 --> 01:02:34,150 - President Trump announcing 1618 01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:37,079 that most transgender troops would no longer be able 1619 01:02:37,099 --> 01:02:38,219 to serve in the military. 1620 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,019 - I think when you have an administration of people 1621 01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:44,090 that are actively vying against you, 1622 01:02:44,110 --> 01:02:46,079 yeah, it's very scary, and we're terrified 1623 01:02:46,099 --> 01:02:48,119 of what the next four years is gonna bring. 1624 01:02:48,139 --> 01:02:52,199 - This is not a pleasant time to be out and visibly trans. 1625 01:02:55,070 --> 01:02:57,139 - ♪ Toodly-doo, boo boo ♪ 1626 01:03:03,150 --> 01:03:05,030 Hi. My name is Phoenix. 1627 01:03:05,050 --> 01:03:06,230 I live in kindergarten. 1628 01:03:07,010 --> 01:03:08,070 - You live in kindergarten? 1629 01:03:08,090 --> 01:03:10,179 No, you live in Lawrence. 1630 01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:12,190 - No. 1631 01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:14,119 - You-- 1632 01:03:14,139 --> 01:03:17,050 - I live in country. 1633 01:03:17,070 --> 01:03:20,090 Country is United States of America. 1634 01:03:20,110 --> 01:03:23,010 - So I've got the kids in public school. 1635 01:03:23,030 --> 01:03:24,230 The night before school pictures, 1636 01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:28,059 Phoenix decided to go back to living as a boy. 1637 01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:30,210 We didn't know what was going on. 1638 01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:31,219 It was all very sudden. 1639 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,139 - Nuh-uh. Me boy. 1640 01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:35,210 - You know, it is okay 1641 01:03:35,230 --> 01:03:38,039 for boys to wear girl clothes and-- 1642 01:03:38,059 --> 01:03:39,119 - Nuh-uh. - Girls to wear boy clothes. 1643 01:03:39,139 --> 01:03:43,050 - Not dresses. Or skirt. 1644 01:03:43,070 --> 01:03:45,110 - Yeah, boys can wear dresses and skirts. 1645 01:03:45,130 --> 01:03:47,039 That's really okay. - Not dress. 1646 01:03:47,059 --> 01:03:50,050 - We have several theories about what's going on 1647 01:03:50,070 --> 01:03:53,039 with why Phoenix went back to boy. 1648 01:03:53,059 --> 01:03:56,039 One is, was Zach encouraging it? 1649 01:03:56,059 --> 01:03:58,050 Or now that we live with my dad, 1650 01:03:58,070 --> 01:04:02,010 he has a more regular male role model. 1651 01:04:03,050 --> 01:04:04,059 - Bang. 1652 01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:05,139 - Every time I've asked him what he wants 1653 01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:07,099 for his birthday, he'd say, "A gun!" 1654 01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:09,099 Remember, you never have this pointed at something 1655 01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:11,000 you don't wanna destroy. 1656 01:04:11,019 --> 01:04:12,230 I'm curious to see how this pans out. 1657 01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:14,170 We don't really know. [laughs] 1658 01:04:14,190 --> 01:04:15,170 What do you think? 1659 01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:18,079 - I think he's gonna be gender-fluid. 1660 01:04:18,099 --> 01:04:19,170 - You think he's gonna be gender-fluid? 1661 01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:21,050 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 1662 01:04:21,070 --> 01:04:23,059 We really could just place bets. 1663 01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:25,159 No one knows. [laughs] 1664 01:04:25,179 --> 01:04:28,170 [dramatic music] 1665 01:04:28,190 --> 01:04:31,199 - I'm just hoping 1666 01:04:31,219 --> 01:04:34,210 that... 1667 01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:36,210 Phoenix is fully aware of what's going on 1668 01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:38,159 and, you know, doing this 1669 01:04:38,179 --> 01:04:42,159 for the right reasons and everything. 1670 01:04:42,179 --> 01:04:46,130 Yeah, I think we would both be ecstatic for, you know... 1671 01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:49,059 Phoenix to not have to deal with the transgender issues 1672 01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:51,150 the rest of Phoenix's life. 1673 01:04:51,170 --> 01:04:54,190 The whole thing is kind of a mystery at this point. 1674 01:04:54,210 --> 01:04:56,070 I don't know, the peer influence or whatever 1675 01:04:56,090 --> 01:04:58,039 maybe had something to do with it. 1676 01:04:58,059 --> 01:05:00,210 He got into school and started seeing other boys 1677 01:05:00,230 --> 01:05:03,230 wearing boy clothes and things like that. 1678 01:05:04,010 --> 01:05:07,179 It's also never been a huge deal to me, 1679 01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:09,110 because... 1680 01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:14,130 I love Phoenix, 1681 01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:17,099 not, like, my son Phoenix or my daughter Phoenix. 1682 01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:18,130 It's, I love Phoenix. 1683 01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:33,190 - Hey. - You got a car? 1684 01:05:33,210 --> 01:05:36,159 - Yes, girl. How do you like it? 1685 01:05:36,179 --> 01:05:38,119 - It's nice. When'd you get it? 1686 01:05:38,139 --> 01:05:40,030 - [laughing] Today. 1687 01:05:40,050 --> 01:05:42,119 - Now that you have a car, we can go, like, wherever now. 1688 01:05:42,139 --> 01:05:43,150 - Downtown, honey. 1689 01:05:43,170 --> 01:05:44,230 - Downtown. - Yes. 1690 01:05:45,010 --> 01:05:46,139 - Westport. 1691 01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:47,230 Vintage shopping. 1692 01:05:48,010 --> 01:05:50,039 - Yes. - We don't have to ask. 1693 01:05:50,059 --> 01:05:51,070 - I think it'll be cool 1694 01:05:51,090 --> 01:05:53,079 'cause then we can go to guys' houses 1695 01:05:53,099 --> 01:05:55,210 whenever we want. 1696 01:05:55,230 --> 01:05:58,110 There's been some changes. 1697 01:05:58,130 --> 01:06:00,199 Me and Brian broke up. 1698 01:06:00,219 --> 01:06:03,139 The ending of it-- it kinda hit me as a surprise 1699 01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:05,170 for his feelings on it because I thought 1700 01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:09,079 that he really, really, truly loved me. 1701 01:06:09,099 --> 01:06:11,139 He told me that he was using me as a cover-up 1702 01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:13,130 because he wasn't sure of his identity 1703 01:06:13,150 --> 01:06:15,050 in the sexual world, 1704 01:06:15,070 --> 01:06:17,170 and that was really what crushed me, 1705 01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:19,139 'cause I felt used, and I felt betrayed 1706 01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:21,210 by someone who told me that they had loved me 1707 01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:23,010 and cared about me for who I was, 1708 01:06:23,030 --> 01:06:24,130 and to be told that I was just a cover-up 1709 01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:27,090 was heart-wrenching. 1710 01:06:27,110 --> 01:06:28,159 - Yeah. 1711 01:06:28,179 --> 01:06:31,119 - I just kind of told him, you know, stay out of my life. 1712 01:06:31,139 --> 01:06:33,030 Stay out of my business. 1713 01:06:33,050 --> 01:06:34,039 I just felt betrayed. 1714 01:06:34,059 --> 01:06:36,039 - It was all so, like, sudden. - I know. 1715 01:06:36,059 --> 01:06:37,210 - Like, it kinda just came out of the blue, 1716 01:06:37,230 --> 01:06:41,059 and you told me and I was like, "Oh." 1717 01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:43,119 - I mean, there were some, like, signs, I think, 1718 01:06:43,139 --> 01:06:44,119 that we both saw 1719 01:06:44,139 --> 01:06:47,099 and were just kinda like, mm, mm. 1720 01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:51,090 - But--but is it--yeah. - Yeah. 1721 01:06:51,110 --> 01:06:52,139 When I started dating Brian, 1722 01:06:52,159 --> 01:06:54,099 it felt like an authentication kinda thing. 1723 01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:58,059 Like, I'm dating a straight man and he sees me as a woman, 1724 01:06:58,079 --> 01:06:59,139 and I was like, that is so exciting, 1725 01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:00,230 'cause I was like, that's all I wanted, 1726 01:07:01,010 --> 01:07:03,150 and, I mean, when I loved him, I genuinely did, 1727 01:07:03,170 --> 01:07:05,219 so that's pretty sad, 1728 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,019 but...you move on. 1729 01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:09,099 [laughs] 1730 01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:11,170 And so instead of dating boys, I buy shoes now. 1731 01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:13,050 [laughing] So-- 1732 01:07:13,070 --> 01:07:15,090 it brings me just as much joy. 1733 01:07:15,110 --> 01:07:19,010 ♪ ♪ 1734 01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:26,219 - How's it going? - Good. 1735 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,030 It's cold outside. - Yeah. 1736 01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:29,199 You wanna take your jacket off real quick? 1737 01:07:29,219 --> 01:07:32,010 So Lanie's fully moved in, right? 1738 01:07:32,030 --> 01:07:33,110 - Yeah. - Yeah? 1739 01:07:33,130 --> 01:07:35,219 How's it going? - We still butt heads a lot. 1740 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:36,230 - Yeah? 1741 01:07:37,010 --> 01:07:38,190 - Oh, I forgot to-- I can self-shot myself. 1742 01:07:38,210 --> 01:07:40,119 - Yeah? I saw a video-- - I don't need help. 1743 01:07:40,139 --> 01:07:42,079 - But I didn't know if that was just a one-time thing. 1744 01:07:42,099 --> 01:07:43,179 - No, I do it every night by myself. 1745 01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:44,190 - That's awesome. 1746 01:07:44,210 --> 01:07:46,150 I do mine every Saturday, not every day, 1747 01:07:46,170 --> 01:07:49,099 but I'll still take, like, a second and breathe 1748 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:51,139 and sometimes I'll even close my eyes when I do it, 1749 01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:53,030 but it's just, like, a deep breath and then-- 1750 01:07:53,050 --> 01:07:54,099 [inhales sharply] Go. 1751 01:07:54,119 --> 01:07:55,139 So-- - Yeah. 1752 01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:57,099 - I don't know that it ever actually gets any easier. 1753 01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,030 - So how's everything with your surgery? 1754 01:08:00,050 --> 01:08:02,059 - I've had a complete total hysterectomy, 1755 01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:05,230 so my primary hormone is testosterone. 1756 01:08:06,010 --> 01:08:09,090 So how about the medicine for your voice and everything? 1757 01:08:09,110 --> 01:08:10,119 Is that still going okay? 1758 01:08:10,139 --> 01:08:11,170 - Yeah. - Good. 1759 01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:15,000 - I just don't feel like there's any change. 1760 01:08:15,019 --> 01:08:16,079 - Well, it's one of those things 1761 01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:18,020 they said, too, it takes a while to build up, right? 1762 01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:20,229 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1763 01:08:21,010 --> 01:08:24,159 Looks good. 1764 01:08:24,180 --> 01:08:27,020 - Jay, we have some news for you. 1765 01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:30,060 - Are you--you wanna tell him? 1766 01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:34,010 - [sighs] - [laughs] 1767 01:08:34,029 --> 01:08:37,109 - Your mom and I... 1768 01:08:37,130 --> 01:08:40,100 are pretty sure we're gonna go get married. 1769 01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:44,029 - We're getting married 'cause we love each other. 1770 01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:46,149 That's a given. 1771 01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:48,189 But a lot of the reason is, remember when I told you 1772 01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:51,020 that with my insurance at work, 1773 01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:55,000 we changed insurance companies this last--last January? 1774 01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:56,010 - Mm-hmm. 1775 01:08:56,029 --> 01:08:58,090 - Without your human growth hormone medication, 1776 01:08:58,109 --> 01:09:00,159 you're never gonna grow taller. 1777 01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:02,130 Ever. 1778 01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:04,180 My insurance won't cover anything. 1779 01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:06,170 But... 1780 01:09:06,189 --> 01:09:09,140 Lanie's insurance, we've checked into it, 1781 01:09:09,159 --> 01:09:11,229 and her insurance covers everything. 1782 01:09:12,010 --> 01:09:16,119 So that's why we're rushing the marriage. 1783 01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:18,050 Because you can't legally be on her insurance 1784 01:09:18,069 --> 01:09:21,029 if we're not married. 1785 01:09:21,050 --> 01:09:23,069 - I love your mom. I'm gonna marry her anyway. 1786 01:09:23,090 --> 01:09:24,130 We're just gonna do it now. 1787 01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:26,090 - 'Kay. 1788 01:09:26,109 --> 01:09:28,100 - Mm-hmm. 1789 01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:46,119 - Avery. 1790 01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:49,199 You have behaved so well for the last week and a half, 1791 01:09:49,220 --> 01:09:52,180 and you're starting to mess it up right now. 1792 01:09:52,199 --> 01:09:55,229 - I'm not choosing to be difficult at all. 1793 01:09:57,149 --> 01:09:59,020 - What's the conference about? 1794 01:09:59,039 --> 01:10:01,010 - It's going to be in Washington, D.C. 1795 01:10:01,029 --> 01:10:02,170 - Yeah, we're going to Washington, D.C. 1796 01:10:02,189 --> 01:10:03,170 We're gonna-- - Again? 1797 01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:04,170 - We're gonna-- - Again. 1798 01:10:04,189 --> 01:10:07,090 - And we're gonna be moving to the White House 1799 01:10:07,109 --> 01:10:08,100 the central area, 1800 01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:11,140 to throw a book at Donald Trump's face. 1801 01:10:11,159 --> 01:10:14,039 - I don't think that we wanna say that, no. 1802 01:10:14,060 --> 01:10:15,149 This one is Time to THRIVE, 1803 01:10:15,170 --> 01:10:19,020 and it's for people who work with LGBTQ youth, 1804 01:10:19,039 --> 01:10:21,149 and we actually go and meet with our senators, 1805 01:10:21,170 --> 01:10:23,039 some representatives. 1806 01:10:23,060 --> 01:10:24,189 After we do that, 1807 01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:26,159 we go and sit 1808 01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:29,229 and sell some of Avery's books for a little while. 1809 01:10:30,010 --> 01:10:31,029 Avery. 1810 01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:32,130 Manners. 1811 01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:35,109 - I just don't wanna even have a book. 1812 01:10:35,130 --> 01:10:37,130 I've done too much in this world. 1813 01:10:37,149 --> 01:10:40,100 It's ruined my life enough, and now 1814 01:10:40,119 --> 01:10:43,140 everyone in this world is going to know. 1815 01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:45,229 If I sell my book, it's gonna get on the news 1816 01:10:46,010 --> 01:10:47,180 for, like--along with me 1817 01:10:47,199 --> 01:10:50,180 for, like, the 50th time at this point, 1818 01:10:50,199 --> 01:10:53,140 and it's just gonna make my life worse. 1819 01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:56,090 - A couple years ago, you wanted people to know. 1820 01:10:56,109 --> 01:10:57,220 - Yeah, I did. - But now? 1821 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,079 - But now--that was really a stupid, silly mistake, 1822 01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:01,109 and now I don't. 1823 01:11:01,130 --> 01:11:04,039 [dramatic music] 1824 01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:05,210 Yeah. That's something. 1825 01:11:05,229 --> 01:11:07,079 - Mm-hmm. - I'll go pack now. 1826 01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:13,210 ♪ ♪ 1827 01:11:13,229 --> 01:11:15,029 - This is hard 1828 01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:18,220 because her future depends on what we do right now. 1829 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,100 - Take it. - Stop, Ave. 1830 01:11:20,119 --> 01:11:22,119 Here. Put it in here. 1831 01:11:22,140 --> 01:11:25,180 Things are going to get worse if more people don't step up 1832 01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:28,130 and fight. 1833 01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:29,189 But I do struggle 1834 01:11:29,210 --> 01:11:33,100 with letting her just enjoy childhood. 1835 01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:35,149 Avery. 1836 01:11:35,170 --> 01:11:40,220 ♪ ♪ 1837 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,159 Oh, my goodness. 1838 01:11:43,180 --> 01:11:45,060 - It's ginormous. 1839 01:11:45,079 --> 01:11:49,050 ♪ ♪ 1840 01:11:49,069 --> 01:11:50,210 - It's so critical right now 1841 01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:52,229 that we personalize trans issues 1842 01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:54,199 for senators and representatives 1843 01:11:54,220 --> 01:11:58,050 and they understand what's at stake. 1844 01:11:58,069 --> 01:12:00,010 I don't know if she understands 1845 01:12:00,029 --> 01:12:01,029 the gravity of that, 1846 01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:03,159 but she is walking these halls, 1847 01:12:03,180 --> 01:12:06,000 and that visibility alone matters. 1848 01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:09,069 I'm Debi Jackson, and I live in South Kansas City. 1849 01:12:09,090 --> 01:12:16,079 ♪ ♪ 1850 01:12:22,119 --> 01:12:26,119 It's her story in her own words from after she transitioned, 1851 01:12:26,140 --> 01:12:28,220 and, you know, all the other things that she is 1852 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,149 besides being transgender. 1853 01:12:30,170 --> 01:12:31,220 - Right. 1854 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,060 - Can you sign? 1855 01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:36,180 Oh, my goodness. With force. 1856 01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:38,180 - I am an independent woman. 1857 01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:40,220 - I just really need you to not be rude. 1858 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,010 Okay? 1859 01:12:42,029 --> 01:12:43,069 - Is Avery signing copies? 1860 01:12:43,090 --> 01:12:46,050 - She is not at the moment. - All right. 1861 01:12:46,069 --> 01:12:49,140 - But maybe after a few bites of cheese. 1862 01:12:49,159 --> 01:12:51,130 - We're waiting to meet you. - I'm not-- 1863 01:12:51,149 --> 01:12:53,050 - Are you kidding? You're pretty famous. 1864 01:12:53,069 --> 01:12:54,210 - No, that--I'm not Avery. 1865 01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:57,039 I am--Avery's not here. 1866 01:12:57,060 --> 01:12:58,189 I'm just filling in. 1867 01:12:58,210 --> 01:13:01,229 - Do you mind signing a book for me? 1868 01:13:02,010 --> 01:13:06,210 Smiley face or, like, a unicorn or a star? 1869 01:13:08,130 --> 01:13:10,029 - We've had a very long day. [laughs] 1870 01:13:10,050 --> 01:13:13,079 - Yeah, I hear ya. 1871 01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:16,029 - She doesn't wanna be on display. 1872 01:13:16,050 --> 01:13:17,149 It's exhausting 1873 01:13:17,170 --> 01:13:21,020 constantly being looked at. 1874 01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:23,180 So obviously, she's going to need a break 1875 01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:25,180 from all the attention. 1876 01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:32,100 ♪ ♪ 1877 01:13:40,180 --> 01:13:42,109 - Everybody's hair is down. 1878 01:13:42,130 --> 01:13:43,220 If I would've known you could've had 1879 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,050 your hair down, I would've had my hair down. 1880 01:13:46,069 --> 01:13:51,159 ♪ ♪ 1881 01:13:51,180 --> 01:13:53,119 - I am very nervous, and this is a big deal though. 1882 01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:55,220 But anyways, yeah, it's Kansas City Fashion Week. 1883 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,079 Huge, huge opportunity for her, so, I mean-- 1884 01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:00,039 but there's gonna be hundreds of girls here. 1885 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:01,109 - Oh, you're so glittery. 1886 01:14:01,130 --> 01:14:03,220 - [laughs] 1887 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,119 - Right over there. 1888 01:14:06,140 --> 01:14:07,159 - Okay. 1889 01:14:07,180 --> 01:14:10,000 [whispering] I'm so nervous. 1890 01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:16,229 ♪ ♪ 1891 01:14:17,010 --> 01:14:20,069 - 478? 1892 01:14:20,090 --> 01:14:22,069 Hi. - How are you? 1893 01:14:22,090 --> 01:14:23,069 - Good. How are you? 1894 01:14:23,090 --> 01:14:25,069 - Pretty good. - Good. 1895 01:14:25,090 --> 01:14:26,199 All right. Jenna? 1896 01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:28,039 - Leena. - Oh, sorry, Leena. 1897 01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:29,060 - You're fine. You're fine. 1898 01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:36,069 ♪ ♪ 1899 01:14:41,069 --> 01:14:42,100 - Yeah. 1900 01:14:42,119 --> 01:14:49,100 ♪ ♪ 1901 01:14:56,069 --> 01:14:58,069 - Thank you. - Thank you. 1902 01:14:58,090 --> 01:15:04,069 ♪ ♪ 1903 01:15:04,090 --> 01:15:06,100 - I got a call from, like, a couple of designers, 1904 01:15:06,119 --> 01:15:10,039 and I got cast to walk for a swimwear line. 1905 01:15:10,060 --> 01:15:11,180 And we had called them and told them, you know, 1906 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:13,060 like, "Just so you know, like, I'm trans. 1907 01:15:13,079 --> 01:15:14,170 "Like, everything's fine. 1908 01:15:14,189 --> 01:15:16,069 "I can still, like, wear swimwear and all that 1909 01:15:16,090 --> 01:15:17,140 "and that's, like, not a problem, 1910 01:15:17,159 --> 01:15:19,010 "but we just want you to be aware 1911 01:15:19,029 --> 01:15:20,069 "of, you know, everything, 1912 01:15:20,090 --> 01:15:23,210 "so you as a designer can have that information or whatever." 1913 01:15:23,229 --> 01:15:27,210 And about two days later or so, I got a call back 1914 01:15:27,229 --> 01:15:29,210 saying, "We had, you know, had a meeting 1915 01:15:29,229 --> 01:15:31,109 "with our creative directors, 1916 01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:34,039 and we'll be switching some girls out." 1917 01:15:34,060 --> 01:15:36,140 ♪ ♪ 1918 01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:38,130 I was the only person on the whole cast 1919 01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:40,079 that got cut. 1920 01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,220 ♪ ♪ 1921 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,199 There's a little, you know, bias out there. 1922 01:15:46,220 --> 01:15:50,149 You get used to it. 1923 01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:52,109 'Cause it is such a-- like, a religious area, 1924 01:15:52,130 --> 01:15:54,170 and it's so conservative that it's hard 1925 01:15:54,189 --> 01:15:56,180 for other people to have, you know, 1926 01:15:56,199 --> 01:15:58,079 any sort of an open mind 1927 01:15:58,100 --> 01:15:59,220 for people who aren't like them. 1928 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,119 ♪ ♪ 1929 01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:06,220 The designer has 900 followers on Instagram, 1930 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,220 so pretty irrelevant in my life, so... 1931 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:16,050 ♪ ♪ 1932 01:16:18,130 --> 01:16:21,069 [hopeful music] 1933 01:16:21,090 --> 01:16:22,229 ♪ ♪ 1934 01:16:23,010 --> 01:16:25,020 - I'm nervous. - I know. 1935 01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:26,100 - You're not the one who has to talk 1936 01:16:26,119 --> 01:16:27,199 in front of a bunch of people. 1937 01:16:27,220 --> 01:16:29,170 - Yes, I do. 1938 01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:30,229 - What are you talking about? 1939 01:16:31,010 --> 01:16:33,189 - I'm gonna do a speech. 1940 01:16:33,210 --> 01:16:36,050 - Speech about what? - None of your business. 1941 01:16:36,069 --> 01:16:40,119 ♪ ♪ 1942 01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:44,100 - So I had to un-invite my mom to the wedding. 1943 01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:47,060 I just couldn't handle the negativity anymore 1944 01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:50,029 and the comments that she was saying about Jay. 1945 01:16:50,050 --> 01:16:53,220 It's supposed to be a day of celebration for all of us. 1946 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,149 I mean, I feel bad, 1947 01:16:55,170 --> 01:16:58,199 but I don't need that around me. 1948 01:16:58,220 --> 01:17:02,069 And Jay doesn't need that around him either. 1949 01:17:02,090 --> 01:17:03,140 - No. Nuh-uh. 1950 01:17:03,159 --> 01:17:04,229 Keep your eyes closed. - They're closed. 1951 01:17:05,010 --> 01:17:06,069 - Look that way. - They're closed. 1952 01:17:08,029 --> 01:17:09,159 - Hey, babe. 1953 01:17:09,180 --> 01:17:11,020 - Hey. 1954 01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:14,090 - [laughs] - You look beautiful. 1955 01:17:14,109 --> 01:17:16,020 - So before we get started, 1956 01:17:16,039 --> 01:17:17,210 Jay said he had some words 1957 01:17:17,229 --> 01:17:19,170 he'd like to share with everyone. 1958 01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:21,020 - Hi, everyone. 1959 01:17:21,039 --> 01:17:23,130 [all cheering] 1960 01:17:23,149 --> 01:17:27,000 So I just wanna say that... 1961 01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:28,140 - [laughs] 1962 01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:32,000 - That I love you guys and that--oh, my God. 1963 01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:34,079 That they mean a lot to me 1964 01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:37,039 and I'm really happy that Lanie makes my mom happy 1965 01:17:37,060 --> 01:17:39,090 and it's really important that my mom's happy 1966 01:17:39,109 --> 01:17:42,020 and I'm glad that we can be here tonight 1967 01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:44,199 to celebrate their happiness. 1968 01:17:44,220 --> 01:17:45,199 I love you guys. 1969 01:17:45,220 --> 01:17:47,039 - Oh, Jay. - Oh! 1970 01:17:47,060 --> 01:17:51,039 - Hug it out. Hug it out. 1971 01:17:51,060 --> 01:17:53,149 - I pronounce you married. You may kiss the bride. 1972 01:17:53,170 --> 01:17:54,140 - Yes! - Yeah! 1973 01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:56,180 [cheers and applause] 1974 01:17:56,199 --> 01:17:57,180 - [laughs] 1975 01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:04,189 ♪ ♪ 1976 01:18:09,039 --> 01:18:11,109 - She only needs, like, two or three pieces of sweet potato 1977 01:18:11,130 --> 01:18:12,149 about that big. 1978 01:18:12,170 --> 01:18:14,010 Watch your fingers there. 1979 01:18:14,029 --> 01:18:16,130 - Okay. 1980 01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:18,109 My mom found this really cool nature program 1981 01:18:18,130 --> 01:18:21,050 where I get to go take care of animals. 1982 01:18:21,069 --> 01:18:23,199 I get to feed them, clean their cages, 1983 01:18:23,220 --> 01:18:27,020 and just kinda hang out with them. 1984 01:18:27,039 --> 01:18:28,220 Is this a poisonous snake? 1985 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,220 - No. 1986 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,000 - Do you think 1987 01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:34,220 I would let you do a poisonous snake? 1988 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,020 - Nope. 1989 01:18:36,039 --> 01:18:38,170 - She's one of the best ones. 1990 01:18:38,189 --> 01:18:40,189 - It's actually something with responsibilities 1991 01:18:40,210 --> 01:18:43,159 that I actually have to do something 1992 01:18:43,180 --> 01:18:46,229 and, like, it's just something that's fun 1993 01:18:47,010 --> 01:18:51,050 and that makes me excited for when I get to go. 1994 01:18:51,069 --> 01:18:52,189 - Anything with a mouth can bite, 1995 01:18:52,210 --> 01:18:55,170 so we don't touch the mouth or the head, right? 1996 01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:57,199 So we always stay towards the back or the tail. 1997 01:18:57,220 --> 01:18:59,229 - I'm very happy my mom found this 1998 01:19:00,010 --> 01:19:02,220 'cause now I get to experience the real world 1999 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,060 of that place, which is amazing. 2000 01:19:06,079 --> 01:19:13,130 ♪ ♪ 2001 01:19:14,039 --> 01:19:16,119 - So just, like, the doctor that I've chosen 2002 01:19:16,140 --> 01:19:18,060 for a consultation. 2003 01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:20,039 - Where? - In San Francisco. 2004 01:19:20,060 --> 01:19:22,010 Sexual reassignment surgery. 2005 01:19:22,029 --> 01:19:24,000 Or you can call it GRS, 2006 01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:25,069 which is just gender reassignment-- 2007 01:19:25,090 --> 01:19:26,159 - What? Jeer-ess? 2008 01:19:26,180 --> 01:19:28,199 - GRS. - Oh. 2009 01:19:32,020 --> 01:19:33,189 - What do you mean? - So you can have sex? 2010 01:19:33,210 --> 01:19:35,039 - [laughing] Grandma. 2011 01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:36,079 The playpen. 2012 01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:39,090 - Well, that's one way to look at it. 2013 01:19:39,109 --> 01:19:42,069 - Yeah, that's the-- that's the whole surgery. 2014 01:19:42,090 --> 01:19:43,159 [laughing] Creating a playpen. 2015 01:19:43,180 --> 01:19:47,180 ♪ ♪ 2016 01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:49,039 - 5'2". 2017 01:19:49,060 --> 01:19:51,050 - [gasps] Yes! 2018 01:19:51,069 --> 01:19:53,149 - Oh, my God. - We broke five foot. 2019 01:19:53,170 --> 01:19:56,140 - We've had so many changes since the wedding. 2020 01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,130 We've moved to a new apartment. 2021 01:19:58,149 --> 01:20:01,050 - This is our living room. 2022 01:20:01,069 --> 01:20:04,090 Then this is my room. 2023 01:20:04,109 --> 01:20:06,119 - Jay was able to get his birth certificate changed 2024 01:20:06,140 --> 01:20:07,130 to male. 2025 01:20:07,149 --> 01:20:09,180 They changed it! 2026 01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:11,050 - Okay, stop shaking me. 2027 01:20:11,069 --> 01:20:13,010 - And the biggest change of all 2028 01:20:13,029 --> 01:20:16,130 is that Jay finally is taking testosterone. 2029 01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:18,170 - Your face is way different than it was last year. 2030 01:20:18,189 --> 01:20:21,159 - No, go like this. 2031 01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:25,039 - Oh, man! You got your peach fuzz. 2032 01:20:25,060 --> 01:20:27,199 - He is physically changing so much so fast. 2033 01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:28,210 It's crazy. 2034 01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:31,079 - Four, five. 2035 01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:32,140 Done. 2036 01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:34,090 - Oh, you didn't cry. 2037 01:20:34,109 --> 01:20:36,090 - Oh, my God. Now it burns. 2038 01:20:36,109 --> 01:20:38,079 - Yeah, but you're gonna get used to it, 2039 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:40,029 and it's only every two weeks. 2040 01:20:40,050 --> 01:20:42,039 - Gimme five. - Burns so bad. 2041 01:20:42,060 --> 01:20:43,109 - ♪ Proud of you ♪ 2042 01:20:43,130 --> 01:20:48,090 ♪ ♪ 2043 01:20:48,109 --> 01:20:49,199 - I like it. - [laughs] 2044 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,069 - Hi, Phoenix. 2045 01:20:54,090 --> 01:20:56,039 Every day, first thing I do when I wake up 2046 01:20:56,060 --> 01:20:58,140 is go to Facebook Memories 2047 01:20:58,159 --> 01:21:01,170 and delete any mention of him being a girl 2048 01:21:01,189 --> 01:21:05,039 and change pronouns back to he if it shows up. 2049 01:21:07,029 --> 01:21:09,000 There's this whole little precious time 2050 01:21:09,020 --> 01:21:10,000 in his childhood 2051 01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:12,119 that is, like, a dark secret, 2052 01:21:12,140 --> 01:21:16,130 which, in retrospect, I can't believe that happened. 2053 01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:18,050 It was a huge mistake. 2054 01:21:18,069 --> 01:21:19,210 Children are not transgender. 2055 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,199 He's a boy. 2056 01:21:21,220 --> 01:21:23,100 He was born a boy. He's always been a boy. 2057 01:21:23,119 --> 01:21:24,100 He'll always be a boy. 2058 01:21:24,119 --> 01:21:27,149 And maybe there are people who actually are, 2059 01:21:27,170 --> 01:21:30,170 and it's probably a mental disorder. 2060 01:21:30,189 --> 01:21:33,159 But I don't think it's, like, inherently bad. 2061 01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:36,229 Like, ADHD is a mental disorder. 2062 01:21:37,010 --> 01:21:38,199 That's--you can live with that. 2063 01:21:41,010 --> 01:21:43,100 - You do seem like you've had, like, a 180 change. 2064 01:21:43,119 --> 01:21:45,109 - Oh, I know. 2065 01:21:45,130 --> 01:21:48,060 No, I've--yeah, no, I'm glad I changed. 2066 01:21:48,079 --> 01:21:51,000 I like this a lot more. 2067 01:21:51,020 --> 01:21:53,010 I don't know, it was just, like, a whole-- 2068 01:21:53,029 --> 01:21:55,010 it completely changed my life. 2069 01:21:55,029 --> 01:21:58,010 [dramatic music] 2070 01:21:58,029 --> 01:21:59,090 ♪ ♪ 2071 01:21:59,109 --> 01:22:01,060 I think a lot of it was just-- 2072 01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:04,229 I'm being me now without a spouse's influence. 2073 01:22:07,140 --> 01:22:10,050 [laughs] 2074 01:22:10,069 --> 01:22:11,140 - Phoenix was so young 2075 01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:13,010 when these things were happening. 2076 01:22:13,029 --> 01:22:14,010 I think there was always 2077 01:22:14,029 --> 01:22:16,069 kind of in the back of our mind of, 2078 01:22:16,090 --> 01:22:17,199 is this just a kid being a kid 2079 01:22:17,220 --> 01:22:19,199 and just wanting to dress up in clothes 2080 01:22:19,220 --> 01:22:21,199 and, you know, 2081 01:22:21,220 --> 01:22:23,229 being primarily surrounded by Mom 2082 01:22:24,010 --> 01:22:24,229 and an older sister at home 2083 01:22:25,010 --> 01:22:27,220 and Dad's at work all the time? 2084 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,079 - I don't know where it came from. 2085 01:22:30,100 --> 01:22:33,100 I do wonder how much Zach had an influence on that. 2086 01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:35,050 Like, when Phoenix said he was girl, 2087 01:22:35,069 --> 01:22:36,109 I was freaking out, 2088 01:22:36,130 --> 01:22:40,069 and he was like, la-dee-da-dee, it's all fine. 2089 01:22:40,090 --> 01:22:43,029 - There's a lot to it that I have no idea 2090 01:22:43,050 --> 01:22:45,050 if Molly or I made the right decisions, 2091 01:22:45,069 --> 01:22:49,180 or, you know, but it doesn't feel wrong 2092 01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:53,069 to support my kid, so I don't feel bad about that. 2093 01:22:55,029 --> 01:22:59,050 - If Phoenix came to me again and said he thinks he's a girl, 2094 01:22:59,069 --> 01:23:01,220 I would... 2095 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,020 strongly prevent myself from combusting like a volcano 2096 01:23:05,039 --> 01:23:06,199 and get him in therapy and support him 2097 01:23:06,220 --> 01:23:10,039 as best as I can under his therapist's guidance. 2098 01:23:10,060 --> 01:23:13,210 - I don't feel like I would do anything differently. 2099 01:23:13,229 --> 01:23:15,119 You know, you were saying some things like that 2100 01:23:15,140 --> 01:23:17,000 to where you wanted to wear dresses 2101 01:23:17,020 --> 01:23:19,079 and you used to say 2102 01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:22,079 that, like, you identified as, like, girl-boy 2103 01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:24,079 and all those types of things, so-- 2104 01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:27,020 - I'm definitely a boy. 2105 01:23:27,039 --> 01:23:29,100 - Yeah. I think so too. 2106 01:23:29,119 --> 01:23:33,210 If that changes down the line, we'll-- 2107 01:23:33,229 --> 01:23:35,119 we'll call you a girl later if you want. 2108 01:23:35,140 --> 01:23:36,220 - Mm-mm. - [laughs] 2109 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,020 You think you're gonna stay a boy 2110 01:23:38,039 --> 01:23:39,140 the whole rest of your life? 2111 01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:42,149 Yeah. That's fine too. 2112 01:23:42,170 --> 01:23:44,229 Doesn't really matter. [clears throat] 2113 01:23:45,010 --> 01:23:46,010 Doesn't matter to me at least. 2114 01:23:46,029 --> 01:23:49,140 Some people, it matters, but I don't care. 2115 01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:56,159 ♪ ♪ 2116 01:23:58,029 --> 01:23:59,180 - Even if someone 2117 01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:04,010 starts a transition, and then they desist, 2118 01:24:04,029 --> 01:24:07,029 that doesn't mean it's always going to be 2119 01:24:07,050 --> 01:24:10,229 100% desistance. 2120 01:24:11,010 --> 01:24:15,079 It could be temporary. 2121 01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:18,119 They could also get messages from other people around them 2122 01:24:18,140 --> 01:24:20,079 that it's really not okay 2123 01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:21,149 and we're kind of tired of this 2124 01:24:21,170 --> 01:24:23,069 and this isn't natural, 2125 01:24:23,090 --> 01:24:25,189 and they can suppress things for a while. 2126 01:24:25,210 --> 01:24:30,060 ♪ ♪ 2127 01:24:30,079 --> 01:24:33,189 That's why it's important to let your child explore. 2128 01:24:33,210 --> 01:24:36,000 If they end up being trans, they're trans. 2129 01:24:36,020 --> 01:24:38,130 If they don't, all they got from you 2130 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:40,060 is that you love them enough 2131 01:24:40,079 --> 01:24:41,210 to give them a chance to figure it out. 2132 01:24:41,229 --> 01:24:48,220 ♪ ♪ 2133 01:24:55,199 --> 01:24:58,039 - Alexa, sing me "Happy Birthday." 2134 01:24:58,060 --> 01:25:01,079 - ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 2135 01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:04,159 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 2136 01:25:04,180 --> 01:25:06,130 ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 2137 01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:09,199 ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 2138 01:25:09,220 --> 01:25:14,100 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 2139 01:25:14,119 --> 01:25:16,029 - Alexa. 2140 01:25:16,050 --> 01:25:18,229 What is transgender? 2141 01:25:19,010 --> 01:25:21,130 - When a person identifies as transgender, 2142 01:25:21,149 --> 01:25:22,180 it means that the gender 2143 01:25:22,199 --> 01:25:24,109 with which they personally identify 2144 01:25:24,130 --> 01:25:25,140 does not match the sex 2145 01:25:25,159 --> 01:25:28,069 to which they were assigned at birth. 2146 01:25:28,090 --> 01:25:30,109 - Thank you. 2147 01:25:30,130 --> 01:25:32,210 - This is for MCC. 2148 01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:35,029 We want that. - This is a private university. 2149 01:25:35,050 --> 01:25:37,010 - Yeah, here's all the stuff for it. 2150 01:25:37,029 --> 01:25:40,050 Springfield. 2151 01:25:40,069 --> 01:25:43,010 Oh, my gosh. You have so much. 2152 01:25:43,029 --> 01:25:44,159 Rockhurst. 2153 01:25:44,180 --> 01:25:46,010 I think you can do A+ there. - No. 2154 01:25:46,029 --> 01:25:48,100 - No? 2155 01:25:48,119 --> 01:25:50,079 KU. We're gonna keep that, right? 2156 01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:52,199 - Yes. 2157 01:25:52,220 --> 01:25:54,079 - Never even heard of this college. 2158 01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:55,199 - It's a Christian college. 2159 01:25:55,220 --> 01:25:59,039 - Okay, so that's a no. - [laughs] 2160 01:25:59,060 --> 01:26:02,079 - Another KU. Man, it's a sign. 2161 01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:03,119 Ugh, Mizzou. 2162 01:26:03,140 --> 01:26:04,229 Okay, where's that-- 2163 01:26:05,010 --> 01:26:06,189 the military packet that you got in the mail? 2164 01:26:06,210 --> 01:26:08,000 You didn't even open it. 2165 01:26:08,020 --> 01:26:09,149 - Yeah, 'cause it's not an option. 2166 01:26:09,170 --> 01:26:11,159 - Why is it not an option? 2167 01:26:11,180 --> 01:26:14,020 - 'Cause the laws. 2168 01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:16,140 - I remember when you wanted to be in the military. 2169 01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:17,180 - Yeah. 2170 01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:21,069 - So I guess that's a throwaway? 2171 01:26:21,090 --> 01:26:23,069 - Yeah. - Sorry. 2172 01:26:23,090 --> 01:26:25,220 ♪ ♪ 2173 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,010 You know, you once told me that you had wished 2174 01:26:29,029 --> 01:26:31,229 you had just have owned your truth, I guess, in a sense 2175 01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:34,170 and not made everything so complicated 2176 01:26:34,189 --> 01:26:37,010 as far as, like, hiding who you were. 2177 01:26:37,029 --> 01:26:38,090 I mean, has that changed now? 2178 01:26:38,109 --> 01:26:40,090 Because I always thought that-- 2179 01:26:40,109 --> 01:26:42,210 well, when we talked about college the other day, 2180 01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:47,130 you had said that you would tell your roommates, 2181 01:26:47,149 --> 01:26:50,159 like, your dorm--the people that you're dorming with 2182 01:26:50,180 --> 01:26:51,159 that you were trans 2183 01:26:51,180 --> 01:26:53,000 so that they were comfortable with it, 2184 01:26:53,020 --> 01:26:55,189 so that they didn't feel deceived. 2185 01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:57,109 Does that make sense? - Yes. 2186 01:26:57,130 --> 01:26:59,109 - Do you feel like 2187 01:26:59,130 --> 01:27:01,109 you just don't wanna say anything at all 2188 01:27:01,130 --> 01:27:02,109 to your dorm buddies? 2189 01:27:02,130 --> 01:27:03,149 - Probably not at first, no. 2190 01:27:03,170 --> 01:27:04,199 Because on the first day of college, 2191 01:27:04,220 --> 01:27:06,079 if I tell them I'm trans, and then-- 2192 01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:07,109 what, I could get beat up 2193 01:27:07,130 --> 01:27:08,149 by a whole bunch of their friends 2194 01:27:08,170 --> 01:27:09,229 because I don't know who they are 2195 01:27:10,010 --> 01:27:11,069 or who they hang out with? 2196 01:27:11,090 --> 01:27:14,069 - You know that Lanie and I, especially me, 2197 01:27:14,090 --> 01:27:16,039 are 100% behind whatever decision you-- 2198 01:27:16,060 --> 01:27:18,050 you know, I'm not gonna force you to do anything. 2199 01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:22,180 - I know. Just--I don't know. 2200 01:27:22,199 --> 01:27:24,119 I think we should just take it step by step. 2201 01:27:24,140 --> 01:27:26,210 I mean, I don't really know. 2202 01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:28,020 - Okay. 2203 01:27:28,039 --> 01:27:34,210 ♪ ♪ 2204 01:27:38,229 --> 01:27:40,079 See you in five days. 2205 01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:41,109 - Good luck. 2206 01:27:41,130 --> 01:27:42,159 - Right. - Yeah, be careful. 2207 01:27:42,180 --> 01:27:43,199 - We'll see you girls. - Bye. 2208 01:27:43,220 --> 01:27:46,220 [indistinct chatter] 2209 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,029 - I'm going to meet 2210 01:27:48,050 --> 01:27:50,020 pretty much the most renowned doctor there is 2211 01:27:50,039 --> 01:27:51,130 for this procedure. 2212 01:27:51,149 --> 01:27:52,170 - Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 2213 01:27:52,189 --> 01:27:53,229 From the flight deck, I'd like to add a welcome 2214 01:27:54,010 --> 01:27:56,159 aboard Alaska Airlines flight 3375, 2215 01:27:56,180 --> 01:27:58,029 currently operated by SkyWest Airlines, 2216 01:27:58,050 --> 01:28:00,079 with service to San Francisco. 2217 01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:02,159 ♪ ♪ 2218 01:28:02,180 --> 01:28:04,109 - If I was to go to the doctor, 2219 01:28:04,130 --> 01:28:06,109 and I know this sounds, like, dramatic or whatever, 2220 01:28:06,130 --> 01:28:08,039 but if they were to tell me it wasn't an option 2221 01:28:08,060 --> 01:28:09,039 for some reason, 2222 01:28:09,060 --> 01:28:11,149 or that I wasn't a candidate for it, 2223 01:28:11,170 --> 01:28:14,020 I don't think I would be able to pick myself up from that. 2224 01:28:14,039 --> 01:28:17,140 I don't think I would be able to, like, carry on from that. 2225 01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:19,050 - Take a deep breath. 2226 01:28:19,069 --> 01:28:22,050 ♪ ♪ 2227 01:28:22,069 --> 01:28:23,180 - Hi. Hello. 2228 01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:25,039 - How are you? - Hello, hello. 2229 01:28:25,060 --> 01:28:26,140 - You must be Leena. - Yeah. Hi. 2230 01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:27,220 - Hi. I'm Dr. Bowers. - Nice to meet you. 2231 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,050 - Hi. It's a pleasure. 2232 01:28:30,069 --> 01:28:32,220 So where are you in the process of transition, then? 2233 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,119 - I started transitioning at about, like, 11 years old. 2234 01:28:36,140 --> 01:28:38,159 I think as I've just gotten older, 2235 01:28:38,180 --> 01:28:40,159 my gender dysphoria's gotten, like, a little worse. 2236 01:28:40,180 --> 01:28:42,039 - And so-- - Sure. 2237 01:28:42,060 --> 01:28:43,189 - I've noticed just kind of as I've gotten older, 2238 01:28:43,210 --> 01:28:45,050 I've gotten more uncomfortable by it. 2239 01:28:45,069 --> 01:28:46,039 - Mm-hmm. 2240 01:28:46,060 --> 01:28:49,000 This is something most kids, most adults, 2241 01:28:49,020 --> 01:28:51,189 have been fighting their entire lives. 2242 01:28:51,210 --> 01:28:54,199 You think that if you're born with a penis, 2243 01:28:54,220 --> 01:28:57,210 that means, automatically, you're a boy. 2244 01:28:57,229 --> 01:29:00,000 I delivered babies for 20 years. 2245 01:29:00,020 --> 01:29:02,109 We delivered a surprisingly large number 2246 01:29:02,130 --> 01:29:06,229 of kids whose genitals were not necessarily male or female. 2247 01:29:07,010 --> 01:29:10,220 So even in nature, God does not get it 2248 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:15,020 exactly divided into two camps. 2249 01:29:15,039 --> 01:29:18,029 The thing is, the penis is the same 2250 01:29:18,050 --> 01:29:19,069 as the clitoris, really. 2251 01:29:19,090 --> 01:29:21,170 Everything a boy has, a girl has, 2252 01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:23,079 and everything a girl has, a boy has. 2253 01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:26,229 And then I deconstruct genitals when I do my surgical work 2254 01:29:27,010 --> 01:29:28,050 and then build them back up. 2255 01:29:28,069 --> 01:29:31,060 We're just turning back the clock basically. 2256 01:29:31,079 --> 01:29:32,060 I know. 2257 01:29:32,079 --> 01:29:34,100 Are you on our list for surgery now? 2258 01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:35,100 Do you have a surgery date? 2259 01:29:35,119 --> 01:29:36,180 - I don't think we're on the list yet. 2260 01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:38,189 - 'Cause that's the biggest holdup. 2261 01:29:38,210 --> 01:29:39,220 That's what we should really do 2262 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,060 is get you on our list, though, for surgery. 2263 01:29:42,079 --> 01:29:45,149 [hopeful music] 2264 01:29:45,170 --> 01:29:48,000 - [laughs] - Thank you very much. 2265 01:29:48,020 --> 01:29:49,100 - Absolutely. - We greatly appreciate it. 2266 01:29:49,119 --> 01:29:50,199 You don't know how much this means. 2267 01:29:50,220 --> 01:29:53,189 ♪ ♪ 2268 01:29:53,210 --> 01:29:56,189 - Relief is the single biggest emotion that people feel 2269 01:29:56,210 --> 01:29:58,109 when they're done with this surgery. 2270 01:29:58,130 --> 01:30:00,130 They just feel like, "Ah, finally. 2271 01:30:00,149 --> 01:30:02,180 My body is aligned with my soul." 2272 01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:09,180 ♪ ♪ 2273 01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:15,029 - I don't know how much talking I'm gonna do, to be honest. 2274 01:30:15,050 --> 01:30:17,060 [exhales] 2275 01:30:17,079 --> 01:30:19,109 - Hey, let's roll this window up now. 2276 01:30:19,130 --> 01:30:22,220 ♪ ♪ 2277 01:30:23,010 --> 01:30:26,079 - Mm. 2278 01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:28,090 - It's just taken a long time to get here, 2279 01:30:28,109 --> 01:30:31,079 and she's very busy, 2280 01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:34,170 and just meeting her is just... 2281 01:30:34,189 --> 01:30:36,119 [exhales] 2282 01:30:36,140 --> 01:30:38,130 It's, like, kinda like-- 2283 01:30:38,149 --> 01:30:40,109 the only way I could put it into words would be, like, 2284 01:30:40,130 --> 01:30:42,149 imagine your heart failing and it getting worse and worse, 2285 01:30:42,170 --> 01:30:45,029 like, every day and then someone just being like, 2286 01:30:45,050 --> 01:30:47,000 "I have a heart for you." 2287 01:30:47,020 --> 01:30:50,140 It's just kind of like, wow. 2288 01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:53,020 So it's-- - Yeah. 2289 01:30:53,039 --> 01:30:55,000 - It's, like, everything. 2290 01:30:55,020 --> 01:31:00,189 ♪ ♪ 2291 01:31:00,210 --> 01:31:03,020 - Did I tell you today I love you? 2292 01:31:03,039 --> 01:31:04,170 - I love you too. 2293 01:31:04,189 --> 01:31:11,199 ♪ ♪ 2294 01:31:22,109 --> 01:31:25,100 - Get it to the perfect Pixie temperature. 2295 01:31:25,119 --> 01:31:26,199 - I think you like the bath, Pixie. 2296 01:31:26,220 --> 01:31:28,090 I didn't think you'd like it very much. 2297 01:31:28,109 --> 01:31:29,119 - She's not bothered. 2298 01:31:29,140 --> 01:31:31,159 Yeah, she's just, like, chilling. 2299 01:31:31,180 --> 01:31:33,130 This is, like, the most enjoyable thing ever. 2300 01:31:33,149 --> 01:31:34,159 - Okay. 2301 01:31:34,180 --> 01:31:36,109 - Was that fun? 2302 01:31:36,130 --> 01:31:38,069 Was it? 2303 01:31:38,090 --> 01:31:41,119 Good girl. 2304 01:31:41,140 --> 01:31:43,170 - You think someday, you'll wanna go out 2305 01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:46,000 and talk to people again? 2306 01:31:46,020 --> 01:31:47,170 - Heck no. - No? 2307 01:31:47,189 --> 01:31:49,010 - No. - Your time is done? 2308 01:31:49,029 --> 01:31:50,069 - Yeah, no. 2309 01:31:50,090 --> 01:31:51,210 - I think it's great 2310 01:31:51,229 --> 01:31:54,180 that Avery just gets to be a kid. 2311 01:31:54,199 --> 01:31:56,220 - I asked her if she would like all of us 2312 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,180 to just kinda fade into the background, 2313 01:31:58,199 --> 01:32:00,220 and she said no 2314 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,069 because it's still important work. 2315 01:32:03,090 --> 01:32:06,000 - I think we keep doing what we're doing. 2316 01:32:06,020 --> 01:32:10,010 I think, if anything, we have to do more. 2317 01:32:10,029 --> 01:32:13,119 - I don't just wanna be known 2318 01:32:13,140 --> 01:32:15,050 as someone that's transgender. 2319 01:32:15,069 --> 01:32:17,130 Like, that's not how I wanna make people happy. 2320 01:32:17,149 --> 01:32:21,090 I just wanna make people happy from being funny, lighthearted, 2321 01:32:21,109 --> 01:32:24,180 and not talk about all the serious things going on 2322 01:32:24,199 --> 01:32:27,130 'cause I don't want everyone to have to think 2323 01:32:27,149 --> 01:32:30,159 about everything that's wrong with the world. 2324 01:32:30,180 --> 01:32:33,119 I want them to think about what's good. 2325 01:32:33,140 --> 01:32:40,140 ♪ ♪ 2326 01:32:52,079 --> 01:32:53,060 - Hello, children. 2327 01:32:53,079 --> 01:32:54,229 - Hello. - Hi, Mommy. 2328 01:32:55,010 --> 01:32:58,069 ♪ ♪ 2329 01:32:58,090 --> 01:32:59,140 - Actually, that was pretty great. 2330 01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:01,180 See what happens when you look? 2331 01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:03,189 - This is "The Book With No Pictures," okay? 2332 01:33:03,210 --> 01:33:04,210 - Okay. 2333 01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:07,050 - Okay? - Eh! 2334 01:33:07,069 --> 01:33:09,079 - "It might seem no fun 2335 01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:12,159 "to have someone read you a book 2336 01:33:12,180 --> 01:33:15,229 "with no pictures. 2337 01:33:16,010 --> 01:33:17,149 It probably seems boring and serious." 2338 01:33:17,170 --> 01:33:19,010 - Wait, wait. - "Except--" 2339 01:33:19,029 --> 01:33:20,119 - It's in italics, 2340 01:33:20,140 --> 01:33:23,170 so you have to go like, "Boring and serious!" 2341 01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:30,189 ♪ ♪ 2342 01:33:35,050 --> 01:33:39,090 - Today, I'm going to be asking 2343 01:33:39,109 --> 01:33:42,189 a girl to prom and as my girlfriend. 2344 01:33:42,210 --> 01:33:44,180 So you see that? 2345 01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:46,010 - Want me to help you with the tie? 2346 01:33:46,029 --> 01:33:47,069 - No, I can reach it. 2347 01:33:47,090 --> 01:33:49,090 - I mean this. - No. 2348 01:33:51,109 --> 01:33:53,130 - You look very handsome. - [laughs] 2349 01:33:53,149 --> 01:33:55,069 - Why are you laughing? 2350 01:33:55,090 --> 01:33:58,060 - I was nervous of making this documentary 2351 01:33:58,079 --> 01:34:00,220 'cause it's gonna be, like, out in the public. 2352 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:01,229 I'm scared. I don't-- 2353 01:34:02,010 --> 01:34:05,159 I'm not sure if I am ready for it to come out. 2354 01:34:05,180 --> 01:34:07,220 But I know one thing that is gonna come out of it 2355 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,060 is that there's gonna be that one kid 2356 01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:11,079 or that one teenager 2357 01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:12,109 that's gonna go to their parents 2358 01:34:12,130 --> 01:34:14,079 and say, "Hey, look at this," 2359 01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:16,109 and it's gonna help that one person 2360 01:34:16,130 --> 01:34:18,000 figure out the rest of their journey. 2361 01:34:18,020 --> 01:34:25,010 ♪ ♪ 2362 01:34:29,210 --> 01:34:31,199 - What I really hope is that people realize 2363 01:34:31,220 --> 01:34:35,010 that we're not, like, some exotic species. 2364 01:34:35,029 --> 01:34:37,090 Like, we're a human. [laughs] 2365 01:34:37,109 --> 01:34:39,020 That's what matters. 2366 01:34:39,039 --> 01:34:41,060 We do human things. 2367 01:34:41,079 --> 01:34:43,210 We have human emotions. 2368 01:34:43,229 --> 01:34:45,060 We're human, 2369 01:34:45,079 --> 01:34:47,090 just that was born a little bit different. 2370 01:34:47,109 --> 01:34:49,189 That's--it's plain and simple. 2371 01:34:49,210 --> 01:34:52,050 ♪ ♪ 2372 01:34:52,069 --> 01:34:53,069 - Hey. - I'm ready to go. 2373 01:34:53,090 --> 01:34:55,060 - Hey. What's up, superstar? 2374 01:34:55,079 --> 01:34:58,010 - This is something you've been looking forward to. 2375 01:34:58,029 --> 01:34:59,220 - And thankfully, you guys are going with me and-- 2376 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,170 - I wouldn't have it any other way. 2377 01:35:01,189 --> 01:35:08,180 ♪ ♪ 2378 01:35:16,090 --> 01:35:18,109 [Cut Copy's "Where I'm Going"] 2379 01:35:18,130 --> 01:35:20,069 - ♪ Take my hand if you know ♪ 2380 01:35:20,090 --> 01:35:22,100 ♪ What I'm going through ♪ 2381 01:35:22,119 --> 01:35:24,109 ♪ Take my hand if you know ♪ 2382 01:35:24,130 --> 01:35:26,149 ♪ Where I'm going ♪ 2383 01:35:26,170 --> 01:35:30,159 [upbeat swing rock] 2384 01:35:30,180 --> 01:35:32,119 - ♪ You know, oh ♪ 2385 01:35:32,140 --> 01:35:34,069 ♪ You know, oh ♪ 2386 01:35:34,090 --> 01:35:36,100 - ♪ All you need is a dream ♪ 2387 01:35:36,119 --> 01:35:38,050 ♪ And a lover too ♪ 2388 01:35:38,069 --> 01:35:40,069 ♪ All you need is a dream ♪ 2389 01:35:40,090 --> 01:35:42,180 ♪ And a lover ♪ 2390 01:35:42,199 --> 01:35:45,010 ♪ ♪ 2391 01:35:45,029 --> 01:35:46,069 - Define "making out" for me. 2392 01:35:46,090 --> 01:35:49,069 - For us, it's three pecks on the lips. 2393 01:35:49,090 --> 01:35:50,079 - There's no tongue? 2394 01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:51,170 - No! Ew! 2395 01:35:51,189 --> 01:35:52,170 - [laughs] 2396 01:35:52,189 --> 01:35:54,029 - That's so gross! 2397 01:35:54,050 --> 01:35:57,199 I don't even know how French people do it! 2398 01:35:57,220 --> 01:35:59,010 - People ask you, 2399 01:35:59,029 --> 01:36:00,199 how is it living with someone who's transgender? 2400 01:36:00,220 --> 01:36:01,210 - Horrible! 2401 01:36:01,229 --> 01:36:03,210 Horrible! 2402 01:36:03,229 --> 01:36:06,000 [growls] - [laughs] 2403 01:36:06,020 --> 01:36:08,020 - ♪ Take my hand 'cause I know ♪ 2404 01:36:08,039 --> 01:36:09,229 ♪ What you're going through ♪ 2405 01:36:10,010 --> 01:36:11,010 ♪ Half the time ♪ 2406 01:36:11,029 --> 01:36:14,060 ♪ I had no way of knowing ♪ 2407 01:36:14,079 --> 01:36:17,010 - There's your answer. 2408 01:36:17,029 --> 01:36:20,029 I just broke the fourth wall. 2409 01:36:20,050 --> 01:36:22,159 - ♪ You know, oh ♪ 2410 01:36:22,180 --> 01:36:24,189 - ♪ Ooh ♪ 2411 01:36:24,210 --> 01:36:26,140 - ♪ Whoa ♪ 2412 01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:30,130 ♪ Whoa ♪ - ♪ Ooh ♪ 2413 01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:32,189 ♪ Ooh ♪ 2414 01:36:32,210 --> 01:36:34,140 - ♪ Whoa ♪ 2415 01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:38,119 ♪ Whoa ♪ - ♪ Ooh ♪ 2416 01:36:38,140 --> 01:36:41,060 ♪ Ooh ♪ 2417 01:36:41,079 --> 01:36:47,029 ♪ ♪ 2418 01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:01,159 [bright tone]