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Okay.

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So I wanna begin
with a... with a simple question:

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you've been
pursuing justice all your life,

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you've been singing
about justice all your life.

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Right.

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So, can
music change the world?

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<i>In 2015, System of a
Down played our first show in</i>

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<i>Armenia.</i>

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<i>We were so excited to
perform for our people.</i>

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<i>But there was something
that was really gnawing at me.</i>

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<i>I knew that Armenia's government
was corrupt to the core and</i>

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<i>needed to change.</i>

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<i>And the country's biggest square
was filling up with people</i>

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<i>waiting to hear
what we had to say.</i>

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<i>Before the show...</i>

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<i>I had this sense of
calmness that is rare.</i>

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And I just looked at the
guys and it almost felt like we

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were... created...

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to play that night.

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We've come a
long way, Armenia.

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But there's still a lot
of fucking work to do.

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I didn't know how long it
would take for the reversal

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of fortunes.

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But I knew that it was coming.

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We are System of a Down,
and it's our responsibility...

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to tell you these things and
to rock you at the same time.

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The Armenian hard rockers
System of a Down are political

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and popular.

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They're a damn good
rock and roll band!

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System of a Down!

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<i>The
Grammy Award-winning band...</i>

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<i>Sold
nearly 20 million CDs.</i>

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<i>Propelled by the powerful band,</i>

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<i>frontman Serj Tankian...</i>

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<i>Serj Tankian
has emerged as a voice of</i>

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<i>justice for the Armenian people.</i>

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My grandfather's a survivor
of the Armenian genocide.

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<i>Calling on the
world to recognize the forgotten</i>

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<i>Armenian genocide of 1915, but
also taking on Armenia's own</i>

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<i>government.</i>

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The people are out there,
tired of a corrupt regime,

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and they want it to change.

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<i>And calling
on his millions of fans...</i>

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<i>to bring down the system.</i>

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Continue your path of peaceful
resistance and don't fall into

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the traps of provocateurs.

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This is our living room,
and, uh, we're surrounded

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by trees and... and
love living amongst them.

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Because of touring, I... I don't
get a lot of time to relax on

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the road, so when I come home,
I like being in a silent place.

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So we've got, uh, a Grammy here.

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"System of a Down...

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B.Y.O.B, Best Hard
Rock Performance."

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They used to be downstairs in my
office but that turned into our

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son's room so...

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now they hang out here.

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All right.

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So that's the closet.

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<i>Music was always
important to me.</i>

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<i>Um, you know, I listened
to music at home as a kid.</i>

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Let's see what's in here.

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<i>But I've been writing poetry
longer than I've been playing</i>

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<i>music.</i>

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So this is '97.

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January 8, '97.

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So this is... this must be the
year we got signed with System.

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Poetry, to me, was very
important because it was a way

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of reaching the truth
without necessarily,

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uh, reasonable prose.

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<i>I had a habit of writing every
night before I went to sleep.</i>

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<i>That's why a lot of it,
I've converted into lyrics.</i>

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Oh, here's... here's a... here's
an early System song that no

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one's ever heard because
we've never released it.

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It's called "Friik."

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F-R-double I-K.

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So it goes, "What's my problem?

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Here's my problem.

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My problem is that I'm
too visual to be blind,

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too audiological to be deaf,
too idealogical to be in peace,

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too compassionate to be in
war, too crazy to be sane,

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too sane to be lazy,
too emotional to be you."

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<i>It's kind of interesting because
when I first started music,</i>

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<i>I had no idea of
where I would end up.</i>

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<i>My own family came
here to Los Angeles,</i>

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<i>migrated in 1975.</i>

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You can see some
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written in Armenian.

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You can see a sign that
says "Little Armenia"...

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here.

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Where?

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I don't see it.

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Um, trust me,
it's Little Armenia.

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<i>Right in the
middle of Hollywood,</i>

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<i>the Armenian
community had a school,</i>

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<i>a church,
different cafes, bakeries,</i>

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<i>restaurants.</i>

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- Hey!
- Hey!

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- How are you, bro?
- Hey, Serj.

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<i>You know, it was... it
was a settlement with Armenians</i>

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<i>from all over the world.</i>
Very good!

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- How's everything?
- Good.

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Good to see you.

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Very good!

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<i>You know, the
different foods...</i>

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<i>the smells that you'd get
walking on Hollywood Boulevard</i>

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<i>or Fountain...</i>

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I mean, look at this.

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It's like heaven.

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Gata.

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<i>Or the yelling on the streets
and... and honking for someone to</i>

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<i>come down.</i>

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<i>All of those are kind of a
really beautiful tapestry in...</i>

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<i>in my mind as a child.</i>

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Mm.

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Wow.

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That's good.

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That looks good, too.

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I'm gonna try the same one.

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<i>When my parents came
here, they had zero money and</i>

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<i>they did not
neglect our education.</i>

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<i>From day one, they put
us in Armenian school.</i>

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<i>And within that community, I
made a lot of great friends.</i>

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<i>After graduating high school,</i>

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<i>I got accepted to Cal
State University Northridge.</i>

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<i>At the time, I didn't really
know what I wanted to do as a</i>

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<i>career, so I
thought I'd do business.</i>

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It's while I was going to
university that I got a small

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Casio keyboard and started
playing it as a way to kind of

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relieve my senses from
my mind always working,

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whether it was on studies or
what was going on with the rest

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of my life at the time.

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<i>I was always very
rational, very studious,</i>

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<i>very... kind of thinking
and the studying mind.</i>

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But once I started doing music,
I realized that the right side

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of my brain can really take off.

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<i>The first band
that I ever played in,</i>

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<i>uh, was called Forever Young.</i>

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<i>I started playing
keyboards with them.</i>

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<i>The one and only show
that we ever played was</i>

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<i>at the Armenian Cultural
Center in Hollywood.</i>

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It was an
interesting start,

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'cause first of all, we were
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Armenian.

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<i>'Cause that really
was our lives as young</i>

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<i>Armenian-Americans
growing up in Los Angeles.</i>

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<i>You know, we were a part of
both cultures simultaneously.</i>

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<i>So while
in Forever Young,</i>

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<i>we... we were sharing a rehearsal
space with another band,</i>

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<i>ano... uh, a bunch
of friends of ours.</i>

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<i>And at one point, they
brought in a new guitarist,</i>

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<i>and that was Daron Malakian.</i>

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<i>The first time we
actually worked together was</i>

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<i>on a song called "Waco Jesus."</i>

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<i>It's a song that we both
co-wrote along with the guys</i>

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<i>from Forever Young.</i>

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<i>And it's the first song
I ever recorded as a vocalist.</i>

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And the reason I sang on it was
our singer wasn't around to sing

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and... and I had written
the lyrics already for it.

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<i>So after working
on the song with Daron,</i>

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<i>we clicked.</i>

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Dave Hakopyan was our
bassist in both bands,

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so he joined us as our bassist.

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- Is it recording?
- Yeah.

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<i>And formed
a band called Soil.</i>

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<i>♪ Why can't you ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Look at me... ♪</i>

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<i>Soil was around
for eight months.</i>

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And it's in Soil that I
started developing my chops.

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<i>I was, like, going for anything.</i>

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Why did you
guys play it so fast,

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man?

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I was playing music
at nights, but still,

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I wouldn't admit to myself
that that was my calling.

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<i>And after university, uh,
started working with my uncle in</i>

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<i>the jewelry
business in downtown LA.</i>

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<i>You know, uh, doing trade
shows and being on the calls,</i>

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<i>taking orders.</i>

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<i>And a few years in, I was...
I was really disgruntled.</i>

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<i>I'm like, "This
is not my vision.</i>

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<i>This is not my path."</i>

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After a long day
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I drove to Long Beach, uh, to
take these Kaplan classes to,

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uh, learn how to take the
L-SAT, and I realized I had zero

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enthusiasm for the legal field,
even though I thought I could do

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it, you know?

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And I remember going once or
twice and it was horrible.

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I... I... I didn't know
what I was doing there.

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I was fuckin' depressed.

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It was really late at
night, raining like crazy,

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and I had an
epiphany, I just...

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<i>I got overwhelmed.</i>

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<i>My subconscious
literally took over.</i>

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I slammed on
the... on the brakes.

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I started hitting my dashboard
and going "I wanna fucking do

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music.

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Fuck all this shit."

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<i>And from there, my life changed.</i>

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603, take two,
common mark.

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Ouch.

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<i>I was playing in a band...</i>

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off of Verdugo in Burbank at
Nightingale Studios where Serj

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was at, so that's
where I met Serj.

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<i>I kind of saw him as
a keyboard player.</i>

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<i>He was always, like, the elder
and he had businesses and he was</i>

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<i>doing other things.</i>

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He's always done too
many... a lot of things.

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I said "too many."

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He's always done
a lot of things.

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<i>Two weeks later, I get
a call from their bass player,</i>

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<i>Dave, and he's like, "You know,
I'm not gonna be in the band</i>

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<i>anymore.</i>

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I don't know if... I think
they want to play with you."

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And I'm like, "What do
you mean 'play with me?'"

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A couple of days... a
couple of weeks passed and...

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we talked and we said, "We're
gonna do a different band.

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We're not doing Soil.

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We're not continuing Soil.

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Soil is... Soil was what it was.

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We're gonna go
somewhere else with me.

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And we'll find a drummer."

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So, it was on.

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<i>Daron's always
been a great songwriter.</i>

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<i>I was bringing in the lyrics,
Shavo would bring in a riff or</i>

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<i>two.</i>

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<i>But I can tell you, I remember
the day when John first played</i>

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<i>with us.</i>

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System of a Down's
sound went from this...

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to this.

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Praise the Lord!

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Pass the ammunition!

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God wants you to go to war.

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<i>Being that
we're all Armenian,</i>

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<i>it is pretty unique, you know?</i>

236
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Um, not too many people
knew what Armenians were,

237
00:12:50,583 --> 00:12:52,786
especially in the
United States at that time.

238
00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:55,056
Uh, there were no
Kardashians yet.

239
00:12:59,359 --> 00:13:02,163
<i>It wasn't just
a band playing music.</i>

240
00:13:02,196 --> 00:13:06,533
It was a musical
cause taking the stage.

241
00:13:06,567 --> 00:13:10,104
<i>And Serj came with a
chip on his shoulder.</i>

242
00:13:15,109 --> 00:13:18,179
Once you're onstage, I've
called it the "truth serum" in a

243
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way, because I don't think
about what I'm going to say,

244
00:13:20,847 --> 00:13:22,682
how I'm going to say it.

245
00:13:22,716 --> 00:13:25,086
I just open my
mouth and it comes out.

246
00:13:35,797 --> 00:13:38,533
But all of it comes
from a personal place.

247
00:13:45,239 --> 00:13:47,541
<i>One of the songs that I
remember from my childhood very</i>

248
00:13:47,573 --> 00:13:51,111
<i>vividly is a song that my
dad used to always sing.</i>

249
00:13:51,412 --> 00:13:53,648
<i>A song called "Bari Aragil."</i>

250
00:14:03,423 --> 00:14:05,692
<i>As a kid, I didn't
know what the lyrics meant.</i>

251
00:14:05,725 --> 00:14:10,431
<i>"Bari aragil," uh, literally
translated means "kind stork."</i>

252
00:14:10,464 --> 00:14:14,268
<i>And the stork is known as
the bird that returns home.</i>

253
00:14:14,301 --> 00:14:18,772
And so, um, it's been used as
a symbolism for Armenians that

254
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want to return home because
most Armenians are diasporan

255
00:14:21,807 --> 00:14:22,942
Armenians.

256
00:14:22,975 --> 00:14:26,246
<i>Most Armenians have lived
outside of the homeland.</i>

257
00:14:28,347 --> 00:14:29,916
The reason that the
Armenian community is spread

258
00:14:29,950 --> 00:14:33,521
around the world is
because of the genocide.

259
00:14:33,953 --> 00:14:36,456
<i>During the first World War,
the Ottomans committed their</i>

260
00:14:36,490 --> 00:14:38,325
<i>atrocities, there
was a genocide,</i>

261
00:14:38,357 --> 00:14:40,260
<i>one-and-a-half
million people were killed,</i>

262
00:14:40,293 --> 00:14:41,761
<i>and those that
escaped... you know,</i>

263
00:14:41,794 --> 00:14:44,631
<i>the orphans and whatnot...
made it all the way to the</i>

264
00:14:44,664 --> 00:14:47,634
<i>Middle East and
different parts of the world.</i>

265
00:14:50,703 --> 00:14:52,939
<i>When we were at an age where we
could actually understand and</i>

266
00:14:52,972 --> 00:14:55,909
<i>speak about these things, my
grandparents explained to us</i>

267
00:14:55,942 --> 00:14:59,480
<i>their family story and how
they survived the genocide.</i>

268
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<i>After witnessing the murder of
his father and going blind from</i>

269
00:15:10,957 --> 00:15:13,760
<i>hunger, my grandfather
eventually ended up in an</i>

270
00:15:13,793 --> 00:15:16,329
<i>orphanage in Lebanon.</i>

271
00:15:16,663 --> 00:15:19,399
<i>So I was actually
born in Beirut.</i>

272
00:15:19,666 --> 00:15:24,371
<i>But a civil war in 1975 forced
my family to escape again,</i>

273
00:15:24,403 --> 00:15:26,841
<i>this time, to Los Angeles.</i>

274
00:15:28,042 --> 00:15:31,644
The continued denial of the
genocide by the government of

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00:15:31,677 --> 00:15:34,715
Turkey has further
fueled this trauma.

276
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And it doesn't help the US
government being a NATO ally for

277
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political expediency or to sell
them more Apache helicopters or

278
00:15:51,365 --> 00:15:52,667
different economic reasons.

279
00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:55,002
<i>Congress has
once again failed to recognize</i>

280
00:15:55,034 --> 00:15:58,572
<i>the Armenian genocide,
presumably fearing repercussions</i>

281
00:15:58,605 --> 00:15:59,572
<i>from Turkey.</i>

282
00:15:59,605 --> 00:16:02,875
<i>A sour note for the
Armenian community.</i>

283
00:16:02,908 --> 00:16:04,711
- Hey, wow.
- How are you?

284
00:16:04,745 --> 00:16:07,548
- Such a long time, how are you?
- I know, good seeing you...

285
00:16:07,581 --> 00:16:09,383
<i>In other words, we're
dealing with a country that has</i>

286
00:16:09,416 --> 00:16:11,986
<i>committed genocide that is not
admitting that they've committed</i>

287
00:16:12,019 --> 00:16:12,887
<i>genocide.</i>

288
00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:15,521
And we're treating
them like a close ally.

289
00:16:15,554 --> 00:16:17,357
And that is wrong
in anybody's book.

290
00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:20,526
You guys are the generation to
come up with new ways and new

291
00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:23,863
interesting, uh,
empathetic ways of,

292
00:16:23,897 --> 00:16:27,868
uh, having people understand not
just the Armenian genocide but,

293
00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:30,370
because of our history
and what we've experienced,

294
00:16:30,403 --> 00:16:33,841
having people understand the
scourge of genocide in general.

295
00:16:38,446 --> 00:16:40,014
We have a surprise for you.

296
00:16:40,047 --> 00:16:42,016
- Okay.
- And we really hope you like it.

297
00:16:42,048 --> 00:16:43,451
Okay.

298
00:16:43,884 --> 00:16:44,851
Oh, wow.

299
00:16:44,884 --> 00:16:46,620
A musical number.

300
00:16:58,597 --> 00:17:01,769
<i>For me, the recognition
of the Armenian genocide has</i>

301
00:17:01,802 --> 00:17:03,937
<i>always been a personal quest.</i>

302
00:17:05,939 --> 00:17:07,474
Amazing, wow.

303
00:17:07,507 --> 00:17:09,576
Before my
grandfather passed away,

304
00:17:09,608 --> 00:17:13,079
I made a promise that I would
do my best to take this issue to

305
00:17:13,113 --> 00:17:16,450
the forefront of
whatever I do in my life.

306
00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:24,791
Wow.

307
00:17:27,961 --> 00:17:29,630
You guys are awesome.

308
00:17:31,664 --> 00:17:33,366
That was beautiful.

309
00:17:33,866 --> 00:17:35,635
That's awesome, thank you.

310
00:17:37,703 --> 00:17:39,673
<i>A lot of the
labels were scared of them.</i>

311
00:17:39,705 --> 00:17:40,873
<i>They didn't get it.</i>

312
00:17:40,906 --> 00:17:43,509
How do you market four Armenian
guys that are not scared to

313
00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:46,112
speak their mind, that can
polarize people by speaking

314
00:17:46,145 --> 00:17:48,481
about the lack of recognition
of Armenian genocide,

315
00:17:48,515 --> 00:17:51,785
about... about
politics, about corruption.

316
00:17:51,817 --> 00:17:53,820
Free-thinkers are dangerous!

317
00:17:56,222 --> 00:17:57,790
<i>And that's one of
the things that people really</i>

318
00:17:57,824 --> 00:17:59,692
<i>latched onto as fans.</i>

319
00:17:59,726 --> 00:18:02,963
<i>And so through time, that
uniqueness became their biggest</i>

320
00:18:02,996 --> 00:18:03,997
<i>power.</i>

321
00:18:04,029 --> 00:18:07,800
<i>♪ Need the ones you love and ♪</i>

322
00:18:07,834 --> 00:18:11,839
<i>♪ Love the ones you bleed... ♪</i>

323
00:18:12,372 --> 00:18:15,976
<i>By the time that we
actually played the Viper Room,</i>

324
00:18:16,009 --> 00:18:18,945
<i>our manager mentioned that he'd
love to have Rick Rubin hear our</i>

325
00:18:18,979 --> 00:18:19,947
<i>band.</i>

326
00:18:19,980 --> 00:18:20,814
<i>And we were like, "What?</i>

327
00:18:20,847 --> 00:18:23,116
Rick Rubin might
come to see us play?

328
00:18:23,150 --> 00:18:23,984
Wow."

329
00:18:24,017 --> 00:18:25,920
Like, we were blown away.

330
00:18:26,753 --> 00:18:31,657
<i>From Def Jam to, you know,
Slayer to everything he had</i>

331
00:18:31,691 --> 00:18:33,826
<i>done, the Chili
Peppers and, you know,</i>

332
00:18:33,859 --> 00:18:36,363
<i>it's... we just thought
it would be perfect.</i>

333
00:18:37,330 --> 00:18:41,501
So we started playing,
and we see Rick Rubin walking in

334
00:18:41,535 --> 00:18:43,704
and sitting right there.

335
00:18:44,203 --> 00:18:48,375
<i>♪ It'll be all right ♪</i>

336
00:19:00,453 --> 00:19:03,022
Hey!

337
00:19:03,056 --> 00:19:04,091
The Viper
Room was packed.

338
00:19:04,124 --> 00:19:06,559
I can remember where I
was sitting in the booth.

339
00:19:06,593 --> 00:19:08,695
Sitting up on the top of the
booth because it was... you

340
00:19:08,728 --> 00:19:11,164
couldn't s... everybody was so
wild that you had to be up high

341
00:19:11,198 --> 00:19:13,167
to be able to see anything.

342
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,036
And I remember watching
the show and just laughing.

343
00:19:16,068 --> 00:19:18,938
And I... it was so...

344
00:19:18,971 --> 00:19:23,543
extreme and different than
anything that I saw before that

345
00:19:23,576 --> 00:19:25,211
the... the only
reaction was to laugh.

346
00:19:25,244 --> 00:19:28,915
What it sounded like to me was
a combination of ancient folk

347
00:19:28,949 --> 00:19:32,885
music mixed with heavy
metal, and I'd never heard that

348
00:19:32,919 --> 00:19:34,054
combination.

349
00:19:34,086 --> 00:19:35,955
And it was thrilling.

350
00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:54,106
This is
Rick's house's studio.

351
00:19:54,140 --> 00:19:57,811
Look, we've got
machinery, we've got animals...

352
00:19:57,844 --> 00:19:58,245
Molly!

353
00:19:58,278 --> 00:19:59,112
Molly!

354
00:20:09,855 --> 00:20:13,093
<i>So when the record was ready,
we went on tour with Slayer.</i>

355
00:20:13,125 --> 00:20:14,961
We are in System of a
Down's dressing room.

356
00:20:14,994 --> 00:20:17,096
Serj, the resident terrorist.

357
00:20:17,130 --> 00:20:21,935
And that was like bootcamp, to
learn how to deal with a Slayer

358
00:20:21,968 --> 00:20:23,202
audience.

359
00:20:23,236 --> 00:20:28,108
<i>There was this one show where we
played the first song and no one</i>

360
00:20:28,141 --> 00:20:30,009
<i>reacted to it.</i>

361
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:33,779
<i>And I think it was Daron's idea
to just play the song again.</i>

362
00:20:33,813 --> 00:20:35,148
We're System of a Down.

363
00:20:35,181 --> 00:20:37,651
And whether you like
us or you hate us...

364
00:20:37,683 --> 00:20:39,086
They're gonna kill us!

365
00:20:39,118 --> 00:20:41,254
I'm like, "I'm so
glad you loved that song.

366
00:20:41,288 --> 00:20:42,788
We're gonna play
it for you again."

367
00:20:42,821 --> 00:20:45,258
We played it again and
we got their respect.

368
00:20:49,296 --> 00:20:52,132
<i>That experience
basically prepared me</i>

369
00:20:52,164 --> 00:20:53,966
<i>for a touring career.</i>

370
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,971
See, you can play a lampshade
and consider yourself an artist.

371
00:20:58,003 --> 00:21:01,040
If you do it right, it there's
lights going on and off and on

372
00:21:01,074 --> 00:21:02,676
and off and on...

373
00:21:02,709 --> 00:21:05,278
I'm so lucky to be
playing music with three of

374
00:21:05,311 --> 00:21:07,680
my best friends in the world.

375
00:21:07,713 --> 00:21:08,914
That's my life, you know?

376
00:21:08,949 --> 00:21:11,151
I don't have to play... 'cause
if I had a 9-to-5 job at a bank

377
00:21:11,183 --> 00:21:13,319
like I used to or
delivering flowers,

378
00:21:13,353 --> 00:21:16,690
I'd still go home at
night and play my guitar.

379
00:21:16,722 --> 00:21:19,659
<i>Those first two and a
half years of touring is what</i>

380
00:21:19,692 --> 00:21:22,162
<i>solidified System permanently.</i>

381
00:21:23,195 --> 00:21:27,733
<i>Created that one-on-one
interaction with people that</i>

382
00:21:27,767 --> 00:21:29,201
<i>became the early System fans.</i>

383
00:21:29,234 --> 00:21:30,870
System of a Down, man!

384
00:21:30,903 --> 00:21:32,005
Wooh!

385
00:21:32,038 --> 00:21:34,307
<i>They're the ones
that spread the gospel.</i>

386
00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:38,210
We are having our say and we
are having our voice on... on

387
00:21:38,243 --> 00:21:40,313
political issues, but
they're putting it into music,

388
00:21:40,346 --> 00:21:43,215
which is getting out to loads
of people across... across the

389
00:21:43,249 --> 00:21:44,718
world.

390
00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:46,019
<i>♪ Why'd you leave the
keys upon the table? ♪</i>

391
00:21:46,051 --> 00:21:46,719
<i>♪ (You wanted to) ♪</i>

392
00:21:46,752 --> 00:21:48,221
♪ I don't think you trust... ♪

393
00:21:48,253 --> 00:21:50,057
<i>We were writing
our second record,</i>

394
00:21:50,089 --> 00:21:53,693
<i>in the studio
recording the song "Chop Suey."</i>

395
00:21:53,727 --> 00:21:56,196
So we were writing, you
know, the... the lyrics but that

396
00:21:56,229 --> 00:21:59,199
middle, the
breakdown part, I was stuck.

397
00:21:59,231 --> 00:22:01,902
<i>We went to the
library of my house and I said,</i>

398
00:22:01,934 --> 00:22:04,203
<i>"Just pick a book randomly"
and you picked a book randomly,</i>

399
00:22:04,237 --> 00:22:07,106
<i>and I said, "Open it up randomly
and just point to a phrase."</i>

400
00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:10,611
I couldn't believe it when I
put my finger and I read it.

401
00:22:10,810 --> 00:22:13,346
<i>The universe is
conspiring on our behalf all the</i>

402
00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:16,717
<i>time if you're... if you're open.</i>

403
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:19,885
And that ended up being the
first line of the bridge.

404
00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:21,121
"Father, have you forsaken me?

405
00:22:21,153 --> 00:22:22,189
Father, have you forsaken me?"

406
00:22:22,221 --> 00:22:23,923
<i>♪ Father! (Father!) ♪</i>

407
00:22:23,957 --> 00:22:26,059
<i>♪ Father! (Father!) ♪</i>

408
00:22:26,092 --> 00:22:29,763
<i>♪ Father, into your hands,
I commend my spirit ♪</i>

409
00:22:29,796 --> 00:22:34,802
<i>♪ Father, into your hands,
why have you forsaken me? ♪</i>

410
00:22:35,269 --> 00:22:38,971
<i>♪ In your eyes forsaken me ♪</i>

411
00:22:39,005 --> 00:22:42,776
<i>♪ In your thoughts forsaken me ♪</i>

412
00:22:42,808 --> 00:22:46,245
<i>♪ I cry ♪</i>

413
00:22:46,278 --> 00:22:49,281
<i>♪ When angels deserve to die... ♪</i>

414
00:22:49,315 --> 00:22:52,818
<i>'Toxicity' was
released September of 2001.</i>

415
00:22:52,852 --> 00:22:56,256
And the day before, we were
gonna have a show in Hollywood

416
00:22:56,288 --> 00:22:57,824
to obviously set up the record.

417
00:22:57,856 --> 00:22:59,259
<i>It was a free show.</i>

418
00:22:59,659 --> 00:23:04,098
<i>And I don't think anyone
knew how big the band was.</i>

419
00:23:04,998 --> 00:23:07,801
<i>As were about
to play the show...</i>

420
00:23:08,634 --> 00:23:10,436
we're told that there
are too many people.

421
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:13,273
This was supposed to be a free
concert by the group System of a

422
00:23:13,306 --> 00:23:16,109
Down, and it did
go downhill fast.

423
00:23:16,142 --> 00:23:17,243
Police on horseback...

424
00:23:17,277 --> 00:23:19,846
The fire marshal won't
let us on the stage to play.

425
00:23:19,878 --> 00:23:21,180
<i>Breaking down barricades,</i>

426
00:23:21,213 --> 00:23:23,416
<i>fans tipped over
speakers onstage,</i>

427
00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:25,786
<i>took off running with
expensive equipment,</i>

428
00:23:25,818 --> 00:23:26,953
<i>and vandalized anything...</i>

429
00:23:26,987 --> 00:23:28,822
<i>They didn't know
who the riot was about,</i>

430
00:23:28,855 --> 00:23:29,789
<i>what was happening.</i>

431
00:23:29,823 --> 00:23:30,424
Like, what?

432
00:23:30,457 --> 00:23:31,658
This is all about a band?

433
00:23:31,692 --> 00:23:34,861
<i>Like wildfire,
through the crowd and then the</i>

434
00:23:34,894 --> 00:23:35,995
<i>streets of Hollywood...</i>

435
00:23:36,028 --> 00:23:39,965
The newswire circulated
nationwide on the eve of our

436
00:23:39,999 --> 00:23:41,000
record release.

437
00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:44,003
<i>Are System of a
Down fans taking the message of</i>

438
00:23:44,037 --> 00:23:46,673
<i>political rebellion too far?</i>

439
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,710
I mean, who the hell
thought System of a Down,

440
00:23:49,742 --> 00:23:54,047
four Armenian kids, misfits that
came together and made music

441
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:56,817
that never should
have been popular,

442
00:23:56,849 --> 00:24:00,186
now we're on CNN and
there's a riot because of us?

443
00:24:00,554 --> 00:24:02,155
And that was it, man.

444
00:24:02,188 --> 00:24:04,191
That was the spark.

445
00:24:05,258 --> 00:24:09,863
<i>♪ When angels deserve to die ♪</i>

446
00:24:09,895 --> 00:24:13,067
And then, it was like
two weeks later and.

447
00:24:15,501 --> 00:24:17,203
<i>It
is beautiful outside,</i>

448
00:24:17,237 --> 00:24:19,306
<i>perfect September day
with lots of sunshine.</i>

449
00:24:19,338 --> 00:24:20,373
<i>Oh, would you look at...</i>

450
00:24:20,405 --> 00:24:21,640
<i>This just in.</i>

451
00:24:21,673 --> 00:24:24,310
<i>You are looking at, obviously, a
very disturbing live shot there.</i>

452
00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:26,346
<i>That is the World Trade
Center and we have...</i>

453
00:24:26,378 --> 00:24:27,046
<i>Oh, my God.</i>

454
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:28,481
<i>Another plane has just hit.</i>

455
00:24:28,515 --> 00:24:29,850
<i>Oh,
another one just hit!</i>

456
00:24:29,883 --> 00:24:31,183
<i>Oh, my God.</i>

457
00:24:31,217 --> 00:24:32,051
<i>It was fucked up.</i>

458
00:24:32,085 --> 00:24:33,119
Like, everything
felt out-of-control.

459
00:24:33,153 --> 00:24:36,021
Everything felt like
there was no one in charge.

460
00:24:36,055 --> 00:24:37,923
I saw smoke coming out and
everybody started running out

461
00:24:37,957 --> 00:24:40,894
and we saw the plane on the
other s... side of the building

462
00:24:40,926 --> 00:24:43,096
and there was smoke everywhere
and people were jumping out the

463
00:24:43,128 --> 00:24:44,330
windows... over there!

464
00:24:44,364 --> 00:24:45,665
They're jumping
out the windows...

465
00:24:45,699 --> 00:24:49,035
<i>I was so depressed by
what was going on that it made</i>

466
00:24:49,067 --> 00:24:51,872
<i>me really look into the causes.</i>

467
00:24:51,904 --> 00:24:54,340
<i>What can cause
something like this?</i>

468
00:24:54,374 --> 00:24:58,879
<i>"Understanding
oil, September 13, 2001."</i>

469
00:24:58,912 --> 00:25:00,146
<i>So I wrote an essay...</i>

470
00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:03,216
<i>"Why did these people
do this horrific act of violence</i>

471
00:25:03,249 --> 00:25:04,284
<i>and destruction?</i>

472
00:25:04,317 --> 00:25:05,418
<i>To be able to
understand the answer to this,</i>

473
00:25:05,451 --> 00:25:08,087
<i>we must first look at
our US Mid-East policy..."</i>

474
00:25:08,121 --> 00:25:13,127
I kind of analyzed what type of
dictators and despots have the

475
00:25:13,326 --> 00:25:16,395
US supported over
the last 50 years.

476
00:25:16,429 --> 00:25:18,064
<i>"What everyone fails
to realize is that the bombings</i>

477
00:25:18,096 --> 00:25:21,433
<i>are a reaction to existing
injustices around the world,</i>

478
00:25:21,467 --> 00:25:23,370
<i>generally unseen to
most Americans...</i>

479
00:25:23,403 --> 00:25:25,806
<i>The wars waged by our government
have landed smack in the middle</i>

480
00:25:25,838 --> 00:25:26,773
<i>of our living room..."</i>

481
00:25:26,807 --> 00:25:29,142
<i>So I posted it to
the band's website.</i>

482
00:25:29,174 --> 00:25:31,478
And I didn't
think anything of it.

483
00:25:34,413 --> 00:25:37,151
And then all hell broke loose.

484
00:25:39,152 --> 00:25:42,122
<i>Serj, without discussing
it with anybody in the band,</i>

485
00:25:42,154 --> 00:25:44,456
<i>put up something
that was really...</i>

486
00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:47,093
<i>It wasn't... it wasn't untrue.</i>

487
00:25:47,125 --> 00:25:48,994
But you don't go to somebody
that just had a death in the

488
00:25:49,028 --> 00:25:52,432
family and talk about how
shitty that person was to them.

489
00:25:52,464 --> 00:25:54,266
And it certainly didn't
represent the way the rest of us

490
00:25:54,299 --> 00:25:54,800
felt.

491
00:25:54,834 --> 00:25:56,570
I was really pissed.

492
00:25:56,603 --> 00:25:58,305
The way it came
off is "Fuck you,

493
00:25:58,337 --> 00:25:59,439
America.

494
00:25:59,472 --> 00:26:01,441
It's your fault that this
happened to your people."

495
00:26:01,473 --> 00:26:03,277
And that was uncool.

496
00:26:04,611 --> 00:26:06,947
We got banned
everywhere, you know?

497
00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:10,016
For the first month
of our record release.

498
00:26:12,218 --> 00:26:15,455
Clear Channel sent out a bunch
of titles of songs that they

499
00:26:15,488 --> 00:26:17,324
wanted removed
from the playlists.

500
00:26:17,356 --> 00:26:19,859
One of them was "Chop Suey."

501
00:26:19,893 --> 00:26:22,194
"Trust in my self-righteous
suicide," the... the main lyric

502
00:26:22,228 --> 00:26:23,395
in the chorus.

503
00:26:23,429 --> 00:26:25,131
<i>The lead
singer of System of a Down</i>

504
00:26:25,163 --> 00:26:27,000
<i>is gonna call in,
Serj, because...</i>

505
00:26:27,032 --> 00:26:28,100
<i>Oh, wonderful.</i>

506
00:26:28,134 --> 00:26:29,402
<i>He
wants to explain himself.</i>

507
00:26:29,435 --> 00:26:31,370
<i>That he's just a man of peace
and love and he's getting...</i>

508
00:26:31,403 --> 00:26:33,339
I remember being
in a hotel room,

509
00:26:33,373 --> 00:26:36,643
having to wake up at 4AM to
get on the Howard Stern Show and

510
00:26:36,675 --> 00:26:39,144
defend my words and...
and... and explain that,

511
00:26:39,178 --> 00:26:41,147
"Look, I'm just trying to
understand what's going on.

512
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:43,048
Everything I've said is factual.

513
00:26:43,082 --> 00:26:45,485
And... and I'd be
happy to talk about it."

514
00:26:45,518 --> 00:26:47,354
But I also felt scared.

515
00:26:47,386 --> 00:26:49,489
We were getting
personal death threats.

516
00:26:49,521 --> 00:26:52,157
The band pulled me
into a room, sat me down,

517
00:26:52,191 --> 00:26:55,194
and goes, "What the fuck
are you trying to do to us,

518
00:26:55,228 --> 00:26:56,496
get us killed?!"

519
00:26:56,528 --> 00:26:57,998
And I'm like,
"Guys, I'm so sorry,

520
00:26:58,030 --> 00:27:00,532
I'm just... it's...
honestly, it's the truth!"

521
00:27:00,566 --> 00:27:04,371
Like, I was so naive that I
thought that because it was the

522
00:27:04,403 --> 00:27:06,506
truth, that it
was okay to say it.

523
00:27:06,538 --> 00:27:08,407
<i>Did we
deserve to be bombed...?</i>

524
00:27:08,441 --> 00:27:09,742
<i>Oh, absolutely not.</i>

525
00:27:09,776 --> 00:27:10,710
<i>I think people think
that maybe that's what you're</i>

526
00:27:10,743 --> 00:27:11,610
<i>saying, that we
deserved to be bombed.</i>

527
00:27:11,644 --> 00:27:13,813
<i>Oh, no,
man, absolutely...</i>

528
00:27:13,846 --> 00:27:14,913
<i>That
we brought it on ourselves.</i>

529
00:27:14,948 --> 00:27:16,182
<i>- Right.
- No, absolutely not...</i>

530
00:27:16,215 --> 00:27:20,920
<i>When I hung up that phone, I
remember feeling like shit.</i>

531
00:27:20,953 --> 00:27:23,690
I was playing a line
where I was defending myself,

532
00:27:23,722 --> 00:27:27,059
but I couldn't really get
into the main issues and kind of

533
00:27:27,093 --> 00:27:29,028
really fight for my words.

534
00:27:29,061 --> 00:27:31,030
And that made me
feel really bad.

535
00:27:31,064 --> 00:27:32,532
I f... I felt constrained.

536
00:27:32,565 --> 00:27:33,732
I felt...

537
00:27:33,766 --> 00:27:36,469
I felt like I couldn't say
what I wanted in a well-known

538
00:27:36,501 --> 00:27:37,569
democracy.

539
00:27:37,603 --> 00:27:38,037
<i>I
don't know what Serj said.</i>

540
00:27:38,069 --> 00:27:39,237
<i>Believe me...</i>

541
00:27:39,271 --> 00:27:40,505
<i>He
wasn't gonna say what he said.</i>

542
00:27:40,539 --> 00:27:42,942
<i>Yeah, I don't know...
I don't know what kind of</i>

543
00:27:42,976 --> 00:27:44,177
<i>guy Serj is so, you know, I gave
Serj the opportunity to speak</i>

544
00:27:44,211 --> 00:27:47,047
<i>and... and what the hell, you
make your own conclusions.</i>

545
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,515
<i>That's the true
artist's role in society.</i>

546
00:27:49,548 --> 00:27:51,918
<i>That's why we're here.</i>

547
00:27:52,752 --> 00:27:55,554
<i>The things you're talking about
are reflecting what's really</i>

548
00:27:55,587 --> 00:27:56,623
<i>going on.</i>

549
00:27:56,655 --> 00:27:59,091
A lot of people just
don't want to talk about it.

550
00:27:59,291 --> 00:28:02,261
Not talking about it
doesn't make it go away.

551
00:28:02,528 --> 00:28:06,732
So it is... it is our
responsibility to push back.

552
00:28:10,103 --> 00:28:11,270
<i>Despite controversy,</i>

553
00:28:11,304 --> 00:28:15,408
<i>'Toxicity' has hit number
one on the Billboard 200.</i>

554
00:28:15,441 --> 00:28:17,477
<i>System of a Down has arrived.</i>

555
00:28:17,509 --> 00:28:19,546
System of a Down officially
announced that they're going to

556
00:28:19,578 --> 00:28:21,714
release 'Steal This
Album, ' a collection of

557
00:28:21,748 --> 00:28:22,982
previously-recorded...

558
00:28:23,016 --> 00:28:25,719
So at the time there was the
whole build up to the Iraq War

559
00:28:25,751 --> 00:28:26,586
movement.

560
00:28:26,619 --> 00:28:29,421
Simply stated,
there is no doubt...

561
00:28:29,454 --> 00:28:32,591
that Saddam Hussein now has
weapons of mass destruction.

562
00:28:32,625 --> 00:28:35,595
Alliances with terrorists could
allow the Iraqi regime to attack

563
00:28:35,627 --> 00:28:37,364
America...

564
00:28:37,696 --> 00:28:40,466
without leaving
any fingerprints.

565
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,268
<i>I remember having a
meeting with the band and</i>

566
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:43,636
<i>management.</i>

567
00:28:43,936 --> 00:28:46,105
<i>And they were like, "Okay, well,
we're gonna release this other</i>

568
00:28:46,138 --> 00:28:46,939
<i>record.</i>

569
00:28:46,972 --> 00:28:49,108
<i>You know, we
should pick a single."</i>

570
00:28:49,142 --> 00:28:52,479
And I'm just holding...
holding my breath going,

571
00:28:52,511 --> 00:28:54,480
"I know everyone's
gonna hate what I say now,"

572
00:28:54,513 --> 00:28:55,180
you know?

573
00:28:55,213 --> 00:28:56,315
<i>Kind of thing.</i>

574
00:28:56,348 --> 00:29:00,119
And I said, "I think we
should make a video for the song

575
00:29:00,153 --> 00:29:04,190
'Boom' which talks about
bombing people and the adverse

576
00:29:04,222 --> 00:29:09,229
effects of war, uh, and I think
Michael Moore should direct it.

577
00:29:09,862 --> 00:29:11,498
Let's just make a statement."

578
00:29:12,699 --> 00:29:15,201
As a Vietnam vet, I do not
believe that war should be

579
00:29:15,233 --> 00:29:16,668
fought in America's name.

580
00:29:16,701 --> 00:29:17,903
It's the most
ridiculous thing...

581
00:29:17,936 --> 00:29:20,773
I'm here because my brother is
in the Navy and we want him to

582
00:29:20,807 --> 00:29:21,807
come home alive.

583
00:29:24,242 --> 00:29:27,547
I don't understand why dropping
bombs on children is the best

584
00:29:27,579 --> 00:29:30,182
way to achieve peace.

585
00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:35,555
<i>♪ Why must we ♪</i>

586
00:29:36,388 --> 00:29:41,394
<i>♪ Kill our own kind? ♪</i>

587
00:29:43,563 --> 00:29:47,034
<i>♪ Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! ♪</i>

588
00:29:48,601 --> 00:29:49,803
<i>I went to...</i>

589
00:29:49,836 --> 00:29:52,105
<i>I... I think it was an Ozzfest.</i>

590
00:29:52,371 --> 00:29:55,408
I was outraged that there were a
l... it was in San Bernardino and

591
00:29:55,441 --> 00:29:58,644
there were a lot of, like, Nazi
and white power tattoos in the

592
00:29:58,678 --> 00:29:59,813
audience.

593
00:29:59,846 --> 00:30:03,348
And onstage, almost every
band had at least one non-white

594
00:30:03,382 --> 00:30:04,549
member in it.

595
00:30:04,583 --> 00:30:06,553
And I just thought, "That's like
a... that's just... that's not

596
00:30:06,586 --> 00:30:07,520
right.

597
00:30:07,554 --> 00:30:08,755
And somebody needs to do
something about that."

598
00:30:08,788 --> 00:30:10,824
And I had the idea to form an
organization called Axis of

599
00:30:10,856 --> 00:30:12,024
Justice.

600
00:30:12,057 --> 00:30:13,359
They preach out to a
community and to an audience...

601
00:30:13,393 --> 00:30:16,863
<i>Tom said, "Look, would
you be interested in... in... in</i>

602
00:30:16,895 --> 00:30:17,663
<i>talking about this?"</i>

603
00:30:17,696 --> 00:30:19,598
And I said, "Fuck yeah."

604
00:30:19,632 --> 00:30:22,869
<i>I think the very first
time we met was at an action.</i>

605
00:30:22,902 --> 00:30:28,107
Santa Monica had outlawed
people feeding homeless people,

606
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:29,908
and we were... in
defiance of this ordinance,

607
00:30:29,942 --> 00:30:33,278
we were going to feed all
the homeless people in sight.

608
00:30:33,311 --> 00:30:34,680
Stewart Copeland goes
over to Travis Barker,

609
00:30:34,713 --> 00:30:36,715
taps him on the
shoulder and goes...

610
00:30:36,749 --> 00:30:38,282
Oh, no way!

611
00:30:38,284 --> 00:30:38,718
No way!

612
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:39,885
That's awesome!

613
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:43,123
I had only known Serj as
like sort of the painted sort of

614
00:30:43,155 --> 00:30:46,459
hysterical shaman
of... of Armenian,

615
00:30:46,491 --> 00:30:47,693
you know, death metal.

616
00:30:47,727 --> 00:30:50,596
Uh, and he was the
gentlest soul...

617
00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:52,632
maybe in the history
of rock and roll music.

618
00:30:52,664 --> 00:30:54,701
This is the Axis of Justice...

619
00:30:54,733 --> 00:30:55,768
Radio Network.

620
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,635
I'm Tom Morello.

621
00:30:56,669 --> 00:30:57,870
I'm Serj Tankian.

622
00:30:57,903 --> 00:31:00,306
And for the next hour, we are
going to be spinning rebel jams

623
00:31:00,338 --> 00:31:03,475
of various genres and
revealing dangerous truths.

624
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:04,610
Very dangerous.

625
00:31:04,644 --> 00:31:05,912
<i>And that's how we
very much saw ourselves,</i>

626
00:31:05,944 --> 00:31:08,881
<i>as... as being social justice
warriors and really moving the</i>

627
00:31:08,914 --> 00:31:13,286
<i>goalposts for what ideas could
be discussed in popular music.</i>

628
00:31:15,288 --> 00:31:18,758
<i>Press gravitated toward
us earlier on because of our</i>

629
00:31:18,790 --> 00:31:22,162
<i>political message, and that's
fine and that's totally cool.</i>

630
00:31:22,194 --> 00:31:23,896
But one of the
reactions that I always got,

631
00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:25,932
especially from
the other guys is,

632
00:31:25,964 --> 00:31:27,766
"They're only
talking about, you know,

633
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,169
our two, three
songs out of the 12."

634
00:31:30,202 --> 00:31:32,805
It takes people like System
of a Down to get the word out.

635
00:31:32,837 --> 00:31:34,005
And I think they do
a good job of it.

636
00:31:34,038 --> 00:31:37,309
Without them, there would be
nobody out there that does that.

637
00:31:37,643 --> 00:31:41,280
We didn't want to, uh,
pigeonhole ourselves as purely a

638
00:31:41,314 --> 00:31:42,515
political band.

639
00:31:42,548 --> 00:31:45,184
And we also didn't want the
politics to be more important

640
00:31:45,218 --> 00:31:47,220
than the music.

641
00:31:48,487 --> 00:31:50,957
<i>Yeah, we had to have some
talks about that and just say,</i>

642
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:55,327
<i>"Look, let's not alienate
half our audience every night.</i>

643
00:31:55,361 --> 00:31:56,462
We've got
Axis of Justice,

644
00:31:56,496 --> 00:31:59,465
we've got Amnesty International,
Darfur Action Committee,

645
00:31:59,498 --> 00:32:01,366
uh, each with their
own booths to pass out,

646
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,504
uh, information about causes
that people wouldn't necessarily

647
00:32:04,537 --> 00:32:05,638
see at a rock event.

648
00:32:05,672 --> 00:32:07,807
<i>But if you know
Serj, he's a... a little bit of a</i>

649
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:09,474
<i>stubborn guy.</i>

650
00:32:09,508 --> 00:32:12,711
If he thinks he's right, if
the entire world thinks the

651
00:32:12,744 --> 00:32:16,348
opposite, he's still right
in his head and that's that.

652
00:32:18,416 --> 00:32:20,953
<i>One thing our band
always did agree upon is,</i>

653
00:32:20,987 --> 00:32:23,990
<i>you know, pursuing recognition
for the Armenian genocide</i>

654
00:32:24,022 --> 00:32:27,526
<i>because all our grandparents
are survivors of the genocide.</i>

655
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,395
Tonight is not just the 90th
anniversary of the Armenian

656
00:32:30,429 --> 00:32:31,663
genocide.

657
00:32:33,365 --> 00:32:35,667
It's also time to break
down all the walls of

658
00:32:35,701 --> 00:32:39,672
hypocrisy around the world
with all genocides known and

659
00:32:39,704 --> 00:32:41,340
unknown...

660
00:32:41,374 --> 00:32:43,809
accepted or not accepted...

661
00:32:43,843 --> 00:32:46,846
It's time to make the
Turkish government...

662
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,849
pay for their fucking crime!

663
00:32:55,855 --> 00:32:57,257
<i>♪ Ignition ♪</i>

664
00:32:58,723 --> 00:32:59,891
<i>♪ Ignition ♪</i>

665
00:32:59,924 --> 00:33:03,596
I was making a documentary,
um, for British television,

666
00:33:03,628 --> 00:33:05,897
and I had a colleague
at the time who said,

667
00:33:05,931 --> 00:33:09,535
"Hey, do you know
about this Armenian band,

668
00:33:09,567 --> 00:33:11,371
System of a Down?"

669
00:33:11,403 --> 00:33:13,605
And I said, "Well,
sure, but, you know,

670
00:33:13,638 --> 00:33:16,842
I'm working on human
rights, political documentaries.

671
00:33:16,875 --> 00:33:18,411
Why would I be
interested in that?"

672
00:33:18,443 --> 00:33:20,913
<i>♪ A whole race, genocide ♪</i>

673
00:33:20,945 --> 00:33:23,715
<i>♪ Taking away all of our pride ♪</i>

674
00:33:23,749 --> 00:33:26,919
<i>♪ A whole race, genocide ♪</i>

675
00:33:26,951 --> 00:33:30,056
<i>♪ Taken away
(Watch it all fall down) ♪</i>

676
00:33:30,088 --> 00:33:34,894
In 2004, you had a
movement in Congress to get the

677
00:33:34,926 --> 00:33:36,428
genocide recognized.

678
00:33:36,461 --> 00:33:38,865
- All in favor, say "Aye."
- Aye.

679
00:33:38,897 --> 00:33:40,799
- Opposed, "nay."
- Nay.

680
00:33:40,833 --> 00:33:42,769
The ayes have it.

681
00:33:42,801 --> 00:33:44,469
We're
over a very difficult,

682
00:33:44,502 --> 00:33:45,703
important hurdle.

683
00:33:45,738 --> 00:33:47,807
We haven't had a, uh, victory
in this committee for half a

684
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:48,875
decade.

685
00:33:48,907 --> 00:33:51,777
But now we're up, uh,
against just as difficult,

686
00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:55,881
uh, opposition in getting it
scheduled for the House floor.

687
00:33:55,914 --> 00:33:57,783
Uh, this committee
received, last night,

688
00:33:57,817 --> 00:33:59,885
a letter from the State
Department opposing these

689
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:01,421
resolutions.

690
00:34:01,453 --> 00:34:03,789
So we're gonna have to
fight to get this done.

691
00:34:04,623 --> 00:34:05,724
Hello?

692
00:34:05,758 --> 00:34:08,760
<i>At one point, I remember
being in Chicago for a show and,</i>

693
00:34:08,794 --> 00:34:13,099
<i>uh, we realized that it's the
hometown of Dennis Hastert,</i>

694
00:34:13,132 --> 00:34:14,900
<i>who at the time was
Speaker of the House.</i>

695
00:34:14,934 --> 00:34:17,804
We found out that it's back
to Dennis Hastert's hands,

696
00:34:17,836 --> 00:34:19,972
the Speaker of the
House, to... you know,

697
00:34:20,005 --> 00:34:22,775
it's... it's under his power to...
whether he's gonna allow it to

698
00:34:22,807 --> 00:34:23,976
go to a full house vote or not.

699
00:34:24,009 --> 00:34:27,813
<i>And there's all these claims
about him taking hush money from</i>

700
00:34:27,847 --> 00:34:29,515
<i>different Turkish sources.</i>

701
00:34:29,547 --> 00:34:32,451
Yeah, we just decided
to ramp up the process.

702
00:34:33,985 --> 00:34:35,621
Hey, way to keep
it medium-level,

703
00:34:35,653 --> 00:34:36,489
Serj.

704
00:34:36,521 --> 00:34:38,824
You can't deny the truth!

705
00:34:38,858 --> 00:34:40,693
You
can't deny the truth!

706
00:34:40,726 --> 00:34:42,662
Recognize it now!

707
00:34:42,695 --> 00:34:44,530
Recognize it now!

708
00:34:44,563 --> 00:34:46,932
It just so happens that people
gravitate more towards the

709
00:34:46,965 --> 00:34:48,800
political aspect of the band.

710
00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:49,935
And when it
concerns this, this is,

711
00:34:49,969 --> 00:34:51,871
for us, a personal issue.

712
00:34:51,903 --> 00:34:53,106
- How are you?
- I'm fine, nice to see you.

713
00:34:53,139 --> 00:34:54,673
- I'm Serj, how are you?
- Good.

714
00:34:54,706 --> 00:34:56,675
I'm... I'm from the
band System of a Down.

715
00:34:56,708 --> 00:34:58,710
- From where?
- From the band System of a Down.

716
00:34:58,744 --> 00:34:59,679
- Oh, yeah, right.
- Yeah.

717
00:34:59,711 --> 00:35:00,679
Yeah, great, very good.

718
00:35:00,713 --> 00:35:02,115
We came to your office
to give you to a letter.

719
00:35:02,148 --> 00:35:03,015
Oh, excellent.

720
00:35:03,047 --> 00:35:04,116
Yeah.

721
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:05,385
Did you happen to get it?

722
00:35:05,418 --> 00:35:06,719
Not... I haven't
looked at it yet,

723
00:35:06,751 --> 00:35:07,920
'cause I've been...

724
00:35:07,952 --> 00:35:09,021
- I'm sure you're very busy.
- One of those days, yeah, right.

725
00:35:09,054 --> 00:35:10,255
I'll look at it... I do
that usually in the evening.

726
00:35:10,289 --> 00:35:12,725
Well, we've been here meeting
members of Congress and some

727
00:35:12,757 --> 00:35:15,827
senators, talking about the
Armenian genocide resolution...

728
00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:16,795
Okay.

729
00:35:16,829 --> 00:35:17,963
And the importance
to pass it, you know,

730
00:35:17,996 --> 00:35:21,867
regarding our history and
the Armenian community and,

731
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,870
you know, how important it is to
all of us to face a historical

732
00:35:24,903 --> 00:35:28,907
reality and help get
over this with with Turkey.

733
00:35:29,108 --> 00:35:31,010
And everyone's been
very receptive and...

734
00:35:31,043 --> 00:35:31,876
That's good.

735
00:35:31,911 --> 00:35:32,945
It's been going
great and, you know,

736
00:35:32,978 --> 00:35:35,514
we know that it's in
your hands and.

737
00:35:35,547 --> 00:35:36,915
I'll take a look
at your letter.

738
00:35:36,949 --> 00:35:37,750
Okay.

739
00:35:37,782 --> 00:35:39,418
- Thank you very much.
- Thank you.

740
00:35:41,052 --> 00:35:44,056
Before System of a
Down came onto the scene,

741
00:35:44,088 --> 00:35:48,894
we had artists who happened to
be Armenian but who did not wear

742
00:35:49,695 --> 00:35:51,998
their Armenian
identity on their sleeves,

743
00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:54,433
like Cher, for example.

744
00:35:55,134 --> 00:35:56,936
<i>And suddenly, you
see these guys,</i>

745
00:35:56,969 --> 00:36:01,074
<i>who are heavy metal rockers,
who are having a huge impact.</i>

746
00:36:01,773 --> 00:36:06,980
<i>I think Armenians in the
diaspora craved somebody to have</i>

747
00:36:07,914 --> 00:36:12,919
<i>the power of celebrity to
get real political change.</i>

748
00:36:26,965 --> 00:36:28,467
- Brains!
- Brains!

749
00:36:28,501 --> 00:36:29,235
Brains!

750
00:36:29,268 --> 00:36:30,635
<i>Touring was always fun.</i>

751
00:36:32,237 --> 00:36:36,107
<i>Going from city to city
and meeting different people...</i>

752
00:36:36,141 --> 00:36:38,911
<i>System of
a Down is filling stadiums,</i>

753
00:36:38,943 --> 00:36:39,911
<i>sweeping awards...</i>

754
00:36:39,945 --> 00:36:40,412
System of a Down!

755
00:36:40,445 --> 00:36:41,746
System of a Down!

756
00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:43,115
System of a Down!

757
00:36:44,148 --> 00:36:45,349
<i>And
changing the world.</i>

758
00:36:45,384 --> 00:36:48,086
<i>Talk to me a little
bit about your grandfather.</i>

759
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:53,125
Your grandfather miraculously
somehow survived this holocaust

760
00:36:53,326 --> 00:36:54,226
in...

761
00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:55,461
<i>Just this year, Canada,</i>

762
00:36:55,494 --> 00:37:00,799
<i>Russia, Argentina, and a dozen
other countries have recognized</i>

763
00:37:00,833 --> 00:37:01,934
<i>the Armenian genocide.</i>

764
00:37:01,967 --> 00:37:04,603
The Armenian genocide is
recognized by a number of

765
00:37:04,637 --> 00:37:06,939
nations in the world
already, and eventually,

766
00:37:06,972 --> 00:37:09,275
the US will have
to do it as well.

767
00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:13,980
<i>Whe... when you do it
for a long period of time,</i>

768
00:37:14,012 --> 00:37:16,882
<i>it... it wears on you, you know?</i>

769
00:37:22,153 --> 00:37:23,655
<i>"Claustrophobia.</i>

770
00:37:27,025 --> 00:37:30,128
<i>Losing sight of the eternal
garden could be devastating at</i>

771
00:37:30,161 --> 00:37:31,429
<i>best.</i>

772
00:37:31,463 --> 00:37:35,034
<i>What drives me insane are the
catastrophic perplexities of</i>

773
00:37:35,067 --> 00:37:38,170
<i>those close souls with whom
I have drunk from the pure</i>

774
00:37:38,202 --> 00:37:40,105
<i>fountain of harmony.</i>

775
00:37:40,139 --> 00:37:42,041
<i>As long as there is a way..."</i>

776
00:37:42,974 --> 00:37:46,811
<i>The whole concept behind
bands staying together and,</i>

777
00:37:46,844 --> 00:37:49,881
<i>uh, continuing a long
tradition of something is,</i>

778
00:37:49,914 --> 00:37:53,552
<i>uh, I think it's
commercially motivated.</i>

779
00:37:53,585 --> 00:37:57,155
And I don't think anything,
uh, in life and especially art

780
00:37:57,188 --> 00:38:01,159
should be, uh, put in
that much of a format,

781
00:38:01,193 --> 00:38:02,361
you know?

782
00:38:02,393 --> 00:38:04,029
So I personally don't think
bands should exist forever,

783
00:38:04,063 --> 00:38:05,664
to be honest with you.

784
00:38:05,697 --> 00:38:08,067
I'm gonna quit the
band after this interview.

785
00:38:10,268 --> 00:38:13,004
<i>The way I think Daron
always saw this band and... and</i>

786
00:38:13,038 --> 00:38:15,206
<i>maybe even the other
guys, I gotta say,</i>

787
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,742
<i>is that we each had a
role, like a sports team,</i>

788
00:38:17,775 --> 00:38:20,078
<i>is... is how it's
been described before.</i>

789
00:38:20,112 --> 00:38:23,349
And that we should each kind
of excel at that role and then

790
00:38:23,382 --> 00:38:27,219
bring the unit
together as a team to score.

791
00:38:27,251 --> 00:38:29,154
Like, if you want
to use sporting,

792
00:38:29,188 --> 00:38:31,190
uh, terminology.

793
00:38:32,724 --> 00:38:34,893
<i>And that's fine if you
think of it that way.</i>

794
00:38:34,927 --> 00:38:37,195
<i>And there's some truth to that.</i>

795
00:38:37,228 --> 00:38:39,230
<i>But I've always thought
as an artist as more than</i>

796
00:38:39,264 --> 00:38:42,702
<i>just... playing a
guitar or, you know,</i>

797
00:38:42,735 --> 00:38:44,704
<i>I'm only supposed to
write lyrics or... you know,</i>

798
00:38:44,737 --> 00:38:48,106
<i>as you grow as an
artist, you have more to give.</i>

799
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,076
<i>And for me, that's what it was.</i>

800
00:38:50,108 --> 00:38:52,177
I felt artistically stifled.

801
00:38:52,210 --> 00:38:55,246
<i>"The enigmatic loss of vision
and its accompanying diverse</i>

802
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,752
<i>avenues of existence
caused this lockdown hysteria."</i>

803
00:39:01,253 --> 00:39:03,623
<i>I told the guys that, "Look,
after the next record,"</i>

804
00:39:03,655 --> 00:39:05,358
<i>which turned out to be two
records, 'Mesmerize'/</i>

805
00:39:05,391 --> 00:39:08,260
<i>'Hypnotize, ' "I want to do
my own thing, take a hiatus."</i>

806
00:39:08,293 --> 00:39:10,229
<i>The
announcement has sent shockwaves</i>

807
00:39:10,262 --> 00:39:12,198
<i>around the rock world.</i>

808
00:39:12,231 --> 00:39:15,935
<i>With two number one albums
and a Grammy just this year,</i>

809
00:39:15,967 --> 00:39:20,072
<i>System of a Down is
stepping off the stage.</i>

810
00:39:31,983 --> 00:39:36,087
From the
rainmaker sound to, uh,

811
00:39:36,121 --> 00:39:38,391
a baby Chinese
accordion...

812
00:39:40,858 --> 00:39:43,429
<i>Working on my first solo record,
'Elect the Dead, ' was a lot of</i>

813
00:39:43,461 --> 00:39:45,431
<i>fun, 'cause it was a
whole different process.</i>

814
00:39:45,463 --> 00:39:47,766
Okay, uh, kalimba.

815
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:52,137
<i>I'm making a rock
record without a rock band.</i>

816
00:39:55,340 --> 00:39:57,175
So it... it doesn't sound
great without really being

817
00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,443
hooked up.

818
00:39:58,476 --> 00:40:00,413
You throw a little delay pedal
on there and... and some phaser

819
00:40:00,445 --> 00:40:02,414
and stuff and it
sounds phenomenal.

820
00:40:02,447 --> 00:40:04,016
It's great for
composing, really...

821
00:40:04,048 --> 00:40:05,250
<i>Now, I'm writing
every aspect of it.</i>

822
00:40:05,284 --> 00:40:07,952
<i>I'm writing, you know, the
rhythmical patterns for the</i>

823
00:40:07,985 --> 00:40:09,254
<i>drums, the bass lines...</i>

824
00:40:09,288 --> 00:40:11,023
That's the pianos.

825
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:15,027
So I started with that,
with just the pianos.

826
00:40:18,329 --> 00:40:20,132
<i>And... and most of the
songs are written either on</i>

827
00:40:20,164 --> 00:40:22,701
<i>acoustic guitar or
piano with vocals,</i>

828
00:40:22,735 --> 00:40:24,170
<i>uh, to start with.</i>

829
00:40:24,202 --> 00:40:26,172
<i>And then just building up.</i>

830
00:40:26,871 --> 00:40:28,973
And then brought in the vocals.

831
00:40:29,007 --> 00:40:31,811
<i>♪ Pretentious attention ♪</i>

832
00:40:31,844 --> 00:40:34,346
<i>♪ Dismissive apprehension ♪</i>

833
00:40:34,378 --> 00:40:39,184
<i>♪ Don't waste your
time on coffins today... ♪</i>

834
00:40:39,217 --> 00:40:41,152
<i>And just, you know,
tracking the whole thing and</i>

835
00:40:41,186 --> 00:40:43,889
<i>then bringing live musicians to
replace some of the stuff that</i>

836
00:40:43,922 --> 00:40:45,391
<i>I've performed on.</i>

837
00:40:46,458 --> 00:40:51,497
<i>♪ Don't waste your
time on coffins today... ♪</i>

838
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:53,332
<i>It's... it's...
it's invigorating.</i>

839
00:40:53,364 --> 00:40:55,067
<i>It's emancipating.</i>

840
00:40:55,099 --> 00:40:56,367
<i>♪ Desolate and full of yearning ♪</i>

841
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,036
<i>♪ Dying of anticipation ♪</i>

842
00:40:58,070 --> 00:40:59,472
<i>♪ Choking from intoxication ♪</i>

843
00:40:59,505 --> 00:41:01,240
<i>♪ Don't you see
their bodies burning?... ♪</i>

844
00:41:01,273 --> 00:41:04,309
<i>I remember that there was
this one point in the recording</i>

845
00:41:04,342 --> 00:41:08,379
<i>studio by myself, listening
back to some of the tracks.</i>

846
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,048
I was, like,
running around and, like,

847
00:41:10,081 --> 00:41:13,018
really amped into it by myself,
which probably would look

848
00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:14,853
ridiculous if you saw
someone doing that.

849
00:41:14,887 --> 00:41:16,122
Insane.

850
00:41:16,155 --> 00:41:19,358
But that's when I really knew
that the music would connect.

851
00:41:19,391 --> 00:41:23,394
<i>And rock is a unique delivery
mechanism for rebellion.</i>

852
00:41:23,427 --> 00:41:25,063
<i>♪ Don't you see
their bodies burning? ♪</i>

853
00:41:25,097 --> 00:41:26,365
<i>♪ Desolate and full of yearning ♪</i>

854
00:41:26,398 --> 00:41:28,033
<i>♪ Dying of anticipation ♪</i>

855
00:41:28,065 --> 00:41:29,400
<i>♪ Choking from intoxication ♪</i>

856
00:41:29,434 --> 00:41:31,036
<i>♪ Don't you see
their bodies burning? ♪</i>

857
00:41:31,068 --> 00:41:32,771
<i>♪ Desolate and
full of yearning... ♪</i>

858
00:41:32,804 --> 00:41:34,539
<i>"Empty Walls"
actually, you know,</i>

859
00:41:34,572 --> 00:41:38,777
<i>had a lot of radio play and
we made this incredible video.</i>

860
00:41:38,811 --> 00:41:43,215
<i>There was a reenactment of 9/11
with kids and the Abu Ghraib</i>

861
00:41:43,248 --> 00:41:44,383
<i>situation.</i>

862
00:41:44,416 --> 00:41:48,554
<i>♪ Taunt you to see from
behind those empty walls ♪</i>

863
00:41:48,586 --> 00:41:52,791
<i>♪ I want you to
be left behind... ♪</i>

864
00:41:52,824 --> 00:41:54,527
<i>And then, I got an
offer to do something with an</i>

865
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,262
<i>orchestra and I... I
was bewildered by that.</i>

866
00:41:57,295 --> 00:41:59,831
<i>I was like, "Wow, that
could be really interesting."</i>

867
00:42:00,798 --> 00:42:05,538
So, uh, I was able to rearrange
my music from 'Elect the Dead'

868
00:42:05,570 --> 00:42:07,972
and create a
symphonic version of it.

869
00:42:08,005 --> 00:42:10,141
<i>And it turned into
'Elect the Dead' symphony.</i>

870
00:42:10,175 --> 00:42:15,181
<i>♪ I want you to be left
behind those empty walls ♪</i>

871
00:42:17,583 --> 00:42:21,420
<i>♪ Taunt you to see ♪</i>

872
00:42:21,452 --> 00:42:24,255
♪ Left behind those empty walls ♪

873
00:42:24,289 --> 00:42:27,593
<i>♪ Taunt you to see ♪</i>

874
00:42:27,626 --> 00:42:31,096
<i>♪ From behind those empty walls ♪</i>

875
00:42:31,128 --> 00:42:34,165
<i>♪ From behind
those fucking walls ♪</i>

876
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:35,835
<i>♪ From behind those... ♪</i>

877
00:42:35,867 --> 00:42:38,269
<i>System of a
Down's frontman Serj Tankian and</i>

878
00:42:38,302 --> 00:42:41,406
<i>his Serjical Strike Records have
hit a little smooth sailing.</i>

879
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,844
So next year, Serj and his label
will release several projects,

880
00:42:44,876 --> 00:42:47,579
including Kittens for Christian
and avant-garde goth art punk

881
00:42:47,612 --> 00:42:48,813
band...

882
00:42:48,847 --> 00:42:50,114
<i>We had signed this
amazing band called Fair to</i>

883
00:42:50,148 --> 00:42:51,383
<i>Midland out of Texas.</i>

884
00:42:51,416 --> 00:42:53,452
Serj says he'll put out five
albums a year and continue to

885
00:42:53,485 --> 00:42:55,287
sign bands that inspire him.

886
00:42:56,521 --> 00:42:58,958
And there were a number of
record companies interested,

887
00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:02,327
and through Atlantic, uh, the
head of Atlantic Records at the

888
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,597
time, I got a, you know,
unexpected visit with,

889
00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:08,634
uh, the old, uh,
co-chair, you know,

890
00:43:08,666 --> 00:43:12,371
the old CEO, Ahmet
Ertegun, who was Turkish.

891
00:43:14,373 --> 00:43:17,208
<i>So we sat down and had a great
conversation about music and...</i>

892
00:43:17,242 --> 00:43:20,144
<i>and how much I appreciated the
bands that he had signed like</i>

893
00:43:20,177 --> 00:43:21,614
<i>Zeppelin and...
and Ray and, like,</i>

894
00:43:21,646 --> 00:43:22,815
<i>all this stuff.</i>

895
00:43:22,847 --> 00:43:25,351
And then, on my way home, I
just... something... there was an

896
00:43:25,384 --> 00:43:29,487
inkling feeling inside of me
that I needed to kind of ex...

897
00:43:29,521 --> 00:43:32,625
uh, figure out what it
was and I typed his name,

898
00:43:32,657 --> 00:43:35,627
Ahmet Ertegun, and I put the
world "genocide" behind it and

899
00:43:35,661 --> 00:43:40,164
Googled it, and I realized that
he had paid for a lot of foreign

900
00:43:40,197 --> 00:43:45,270
policy think tanks and trusts
that were encouraging Congress

901
00:43:45,304 --> 00:43:48,039
not to recognize the
Armenian genocide.

902
00:43:48,773 --> 00:43:53,344
<i>He had also paid for chairs at
universities that had encouraged</i>

903
00:43:53,378 --> 00:43:55,681
<i>scholars, uh,
so-called scholars,</i>

904
00:43:55,713 --> 00:43:57,682
<i>uh, that would deny
the Armenian genocide.</i>

905
00:43:57,715 --> 00:44:00,251
Now, this became a
big problem, uh,

906
00:44:00,284 --> 00:44:03,922
for me personally, uh, and
for the band ultimately.

907
00:44:05,056 --> 00:44:07,392
And then, you
know, at that time,

908
00:44:07,425 --> 00:44:11,496
I got news from a very reliable
source that there possibly could

909
00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:16,502
be Turkish intelligence sources
looking at me to assassinate me,

910
00:44:16,534 --> 00:44:19,938
uh, because of my
activism against Dennis Hastert.

911
00:44:19,972 --> 00:44:23,676
Art can be very dangerous,
um, which is why tyrants and

912
00:44:23,708 --> 00:44:27,413
tyrannical states love
to clamp down on artists.

913
00:44:27,445 --> 00:44:29,514
Um, in February...

914
00:44:29,547 --> 00:44:33,051
There are many situations in
life where you don't expect,

915
00:44:33,085 --> 00:44:37,056
you know, something that... that
is political or that is social

916
00:44:37,088 --> 00:44:39,525
to interact with the business
that you do or with the other

917
00:44:39,557 --> 00:44:40,759
work that you do.

918
00:44:40,793 --> 00:44:44,563
And somehow, it pops up and it
challenges your kind of... the...

919
00:44:44,596 --> 00:44:47,432
the narrative of
your moral compass.

920
00:44:48,699 --> 00:44:52,270
<i>In the end, we ended up not
working with Ahmet Ertegun.</i>

921
00:44:53,371 --> 00:44:57,076
I wanted to talk to you about
the latest in terms of genocide

922
00:44:57,108 --> 00:44:58,576
recognition in the US.

923
00:44:58,610 --> 00:45:02,581
Both the Senate and the House
introduced new legislation.

924
00:45:02,614 --> 00:45:05,583
It's not just US
recognition of the genocide,

925
00:45:05,617 --> 00:45:07,553
it's also a matter
of prevention of...

926
00:45:07,585 --> 00:45:11,255
- Right.
- Of just genocides in general.

927
00:45:11,289 --> 00:45:15,461
I want us all to put up
our right arms in protest,

928
00:45:15,494 --> 00:45:17,262
and I want us all to say...

929
00:45:17,295 --> 00:45:22,101
As President, I will
recognize the Armenian genocide!

930
00:45:22,134 --> 00:45:23,769
As President, I
will recognize...

931
00:45:23,802 --> 00:45:26,105
<i>Barack
Obama has joined a long line of</i>

932
00:45:26,137 --> 00:45:29,107
<i>Presidents who broke their
campaign promise to recognize</i>

933
00:45:29,141 --> 00:45:31,143
<i>the Armenian genocide.</i>

934
00:45:38,483 --> 00:45:42,121
Social media has given
unadulterated access for

935
00:45:42,153 --> 00:45:44,188
artists, uh,
directly to their fanbase,

936
00:45:44,222 --> 00:45:45,758
which didn't exist before.

937
00:45:45,791 --> 00:45:48,394
That's one of the positive
aspects for me about it.

938
00:45:48,659 --> 00:45:50,461
<i>But it also allowed
me, as an activist,</i>

939
00:45:50,494 --> 00:45:52,364
<i>to express myself.</i>

940
00:45:52,396 --> 00:45:54,365
<i>"We have a lot to
learn from the Chilean students</i>

941
00:45:54,398 --> 00:45:55,666
<i>protesting here in Santiago..."</i>

942
00:45:55,701 --> 00:45:59,304
<i>"I hope the Occupy Wall Street
movement truly turns into a</i>

943
00:45:59,336 --> 00:46:00,505
<i>political force..."</i>

944
00:46:00,538 --> 00:46:01,673
<i>"I support the Global Zero
movement to eliminate all</i>

945
00:46:01,706 --> 00:46:02,907
<i>nuclear weapons by 2030..."</i>

946
00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:06,644
<i>I was thrilled to see the impact
I was making on so many issues</i>

947
00:46:06,677 --> 00:46:07,846
<i>across the world.</i>

948
00:46:07,878 --> 00:46:09,047
<i>"I'm appalled by
Obama's closeness to this</i>

949
00:46:09,081 --> 00:46:11,517
<i>hypocrite named Erdogan,
Turkey's Prime Minister..."</i>

950
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:12,785
<i>Of course, there was
the other side of this,</i>

951
00:46:12,818 --> 00:46:13,819
<i>too.</i>

952
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,789
As time went by and
System of a Down didn't make a

953
00:46:17,822 --> 00:46:21,692
record, there was a, uh,
growing disgruntlement,

954
00:46:21,726 --> 00:46:25,197
uh, among fans to get
a new System record.

955
00:46:36,708 --> 00:46:38,811
I love the fact the
he represents the entire metal

956
00:46:38,844 --> 00:46:40,579
community, or she.

957
00:46:50,387 --> 00:46:52,723
<i>I don't want to come
across that I know everything</i>

958
00:46:52,757 --> 00:46:55,094
<i>and... and... and
whatnot, but, you know,</i>

959
00:46:55,126 --> 00:46:58,262
<i>whatever statement I make is
based on an injustice occurring</i>

960
00:46:58,295 --> 00:47:00,832
<i>somewhere that I
want to rectify.</i>

961
00:47:00,865 --> 00:47:03,534
And whether I'm right or wrong
to do it is... is... is another

962
00:47:03,568 --> 00:47:04,536
factor.

963
00:47:04,568 --> 00:47:05,536
But I need to do it.

964
00:47:05,570 --> 00:47:07,206
It's... it's... it's the truth.

965
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,373
Like, it's gotta come out.

966
00:47:08,405 --> 00:47:09,407
And same with justice.

967
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,877
I feel like the
environmental balance that is,

968
00:47:12,911 --> 00:47:17,215
you know, that we're seeing
in... in... in climate change is,

969
00:47:17,248 --> 00:47:21,752
uh, also indicative of the human
imbalance that is existing due

970
00:47:21,786 --> 00:47:25,257
to wars, profits over
people, and all of this stuff.

971
00:47:25,289 --> 00:47:28,860
We have to change our ways in
every way for us to survive.

972
00:47:29,862 --> 00:47:31,730
Uh, both in the
spiritual world and in the

973
00:47:31,762 --> 00:47:32,563
physical world.

974
00:47:32,597 --> 00:47:34,733
They're all
mirrors of each other.

975
00:47:36,001 --> 00:47:37,102
<i>We are at war
with the most dangerous enemy</i>

976
00:47:37,135 --> 00:47:39,403
<i>that has ever faced
mankind in his long climb...</i>

977
00:47:39,436 --> 00:47:41,405
<i>With 'Harakiri, ' I
took on a whole new set of</i>

978
00:47:41,438 --> 00:47:42,339
<i>political issues.</i>

979
00:47:42,373 --> 00:47:43,474
<i>There's
no place to escape to.</i>

980
00:47:43,507 --> 00:47:45,710
This is the last stand on Earth.

981
00:47:45,744 --> 00:47:48,747
<i>From corporate
greed to climate change.</i>

982
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:52,251
<i>♪ We're the day birds ♪</i>

983
00:47:52,284 --> 00:47:55,653
<i>♪ Deciding to fly
against the sky ♪</i>

984
00:47:55,686 --> 00:47:56,889
<i>♪ Within our dreams... ♪</i>

985
00:47:56,922 --> 00:48:00,592
<i>But a voice for
justice always needs to evolve.</i>

986
00:48:00,625 --> 00:48:03,461
<i>So, I began to experiment.</i>

987
00:48:04,329 --> 00:48:07,333
<i>I did 'Orca, ' which
was my first symphony.</i>

988
00:48:10,302 --> 00:48:12,271
<i>I did 'Jazz is
Christ, ' a jazz record,</i>

989
00:48:12,304 --> 00:48:14,606
<i>with a bunch of
really amazing musicians.</i>

990
00:48:17,641 --> 00:48:20,512
<i>I did a musical called
'Prometheus Bound.'</i>

991
00:48:21,447 --> 00:48:24,717
<i>And I also started
painting for the first time.</i>

992
00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:27,786
All of my paintings
are musically scored,

993
00:48:27,818 --> 00:48:28,786
like a film.

994
00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:30,622
For example, the first
piece that I ever did,

995
00:48:30,655 --> 00:48:32,524
you can actually read the
music of the first measure.

996
00:48:32,556 --> 00:48:33,457
And it's a piano piece.

997
00:48:33,492 --> 00:48:34,960
It's a beautiful,
haunting piano piece.

998
00:48:34,992 --> 00:48:36,761
<i>And I've always
thought, like films,</i>

999
00:48:36,795 --> 00:48:39,364
<i>how would one score a
series of paintings?</i>

1000
00:48:39,396 --> 00:48:42,634
So I started
inserting speakers and MP3

1001
00:48:42,666 --> 00:48:44,936
players within the
actual, uh, painting.

1002
00:48:44,969 --> 00:48:47,538
So you've got two
speakers on the sides,

1003
00:48:47,572 --> 00:48:48,773
stereo speakers...

1004
00:48:48,806 --> 00:48:51,842
<i>And I got lost in that world and
it became another new artistic</i>

1005
00:48:51,876 --> 00:48:53,245
<i>expression.</i>

1006
00:48:54,246 --> 00:48:56,548
<i>Doing all this stuff and
coming into my own and feeling</i>

1007
00:48:56,581 --> 00:48:59,351
<i>confident of
myself as a songwriter,</i>

1008
00:48:59,384 --> 00:49:00,952
<i>uh, as a composer...</i>

1009
00:49:00,985 --> 00:49:02,788
That sounds much better.

1010
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:05,824
Uh, it really kind of changed
the way that I looked at System

1011
00:49:05,856 --> 00:49:09,961
again, to a point where, when
there was that opening for us to

1012
00:49:09,994 --> 00:49:13,965
discuss touring together again,
I was way more open to it and...

1013
00:49:13,998 --> 00:49:16,534
and be like "Okay, well, I've
done all these things and I'm

1014
00:49:16,568 --> 00:49:18,370
gonna continue
doing all these things,

1015
00:49:18,402 --> 00:49:20,238
but if you guys wanna
play some music together,

1016
00:49:20,271 --> 00:49:21,739
I think that
might be really fun."

1017
00:49:21,773 --> 00:49:22,841
Hello.

1018
00:49:22,873 --> 00:49:23,674
Just want to say hi.

1019
00:49:23,708 --> 00:49:24,643
Hi.

1020
00:49:24,675 --> 00:49:26,510
- Serj.
- Michael, nice to meet you.

1021
00:49:33,885 --> 00:49:35,721
We are!

1022
00:49:35,753 --> 00:49:36,887
We're System of a Down!

1023
00:49:39,757 --> 00:49:41,359
<i>So I shot everything.</i>

1024
00:49:41,393 --> 00:49:41,994
Whoa.

1025
00:49:42,027 --> 00:49:43,528
Yo, watch out!

1026
00:49:44,929 --> 00:49:46,831
<i>I strapped a
camera on my head...</i>

1027
00:49:46,864 --> 00:49:48,899
I just blinded you with science.

1028
00:49:48,932 --> 00:49:51,737
<i>♪ She blinded
me with science ♪</i>

1029
00:49:52,237 --> 00:49:53,905
<i>I had spy glasses...</i>

1030
00:49:54,206 --> 00:49:55,874
These are skinny mirrors.

1031
00:49:55,907 --> 00:49:58,410
If you are skinny,
you will be skinnier.

1032
00:49:58,443 --> 00:49:59,044
How are you, man?

1033
00:49:59,077 --> 00:50:00,112
How are you?

1034
00:50:00,144 --> 00:50:01,679
- Everything cool?
- Good to see you again.

1035
00:50:01,713 --> 00:50:02,948
- Sounds good in the house.
- Great, thank you. Thanks for everything.

1036
00:50:02,981 --> 00:50:07,253
I... I think the reason that I
wanted to shoot all of that...

1037
00:50:07,452 --> 00:50:11,623
was because, irrespective of
feeling confident coming back to

1038
00:50:11,655 --> 00:50:15,893
the System camp, there was still
some lingering insecurities

1039
00:50:15,927 --> 00:50:17,062
and... and fears.

1040
00:50:17,094 --> 00:50:18,429
You fuckin' fuck.

1041
00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:20,331
over your head.

1042
00:50:20,364 --> 00:50:24,402
<i>So I think by having a
camera in the middle to be able</i>

1043
00:50:24,436 --> 00:50:28,640
<i>to look through kind of gave me
the perspective that I needed to</i>

1044
00:50:28,672 --> 00:50:32,310
<i>more comfortably and
unemotionally reconnect with my</i>

1045
00:50:32,344 --> 00:50:33,912
<i>past and with my band.</i>

1046
00:50:38,949 --> 00:50:40,652
That was a such a great show.

1047
00:50:40,684 --> 00:50:42,887
That felt like a
badass fucking show.

1048
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,855
Woo!

1049
00:50:43,889 --> 00:50:45,757
<i>My girlfriend Ang
was on tour with me.</i>

1050
00:50:45,789 --> 00:50:47,358
Hold on, hold on, hold on.

1051
00:50:48,793 --> 00:50:49,461
Okay, got it.

1052
00:50:49,494 --> 00:50:51,596
And George, my manager.

1053
00:50:51,628 --> 00:50:52,963
I tried to come
here two hours late.

1054
00:50:52,996 --> 00:50:54,965
I only got here an
hour late.

1055
00:50:54,998 --> 00:50:55,699
I'm so disappointed.

1056
00:50:55,733 --> 00:50:57,501
<i>You know, it was just like...</i>

1057
00:50:57,534 --> 00:50:59,637
<i>w... we just... we were
having so much fun.</i>

1058
00:51:07,112 --> 00:51:09,014
Look at that view of Jordan.

1059
00:51:09,514 --> 00:51:13,018
<i>And I also filmed my family
as we went back to Lebanon.</i>

1060
00:51:16,721 --> 00:51:19,123
<i>We visited the orphanage that
took in my grandfather after the</i>

1061
00:51:19,157 --> 00:51:20,726
<i>genocide.</i>

1062
00:51:21,893 --> 00:51:24,096
<i>We went back to the home we
lived in before moving to Los</i>

1063
00:51:24,128 --> 00:51:25,496
<i>Angeles.</i>

1064
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:36,807
<i>And I even got to have a concert
there with my dad and sing the</i>

1065
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,344
<i>song he taught me so long ago.</i>

1066
00:52:14,711 --> 00:52:17,047
<i>The Armenian homeland was
destroyed by the genocide in</i>

1067
00:52:17,081 --> 00:52:18,849
<i>1915.</i>

1068
00:52:18,882 --> 00:52:21,919
<i>But a small part of
Armenia actually did survive.</i>

1069
00:52:21,952 --> 00:52:24,889
<i>After two years of independence,
it became part of the Soviet</i>

1070
00:52:24,922 --> 00:52:29,927
<i>Union, until finally regaining
its independence in 1991.</i>

1071
00:52:30,862 --> 00:52:35,700
<i>I had been to Armenia in
2005, and at that time,</i>

1072
00:52:35,733 --> 00:52:38,437
<i>I was starting to get
more interested politically.</i>

1073
00:52:42,206 --> 00:52:43,509
<i>The more I
visited Armenia,</i>

1074
00:52:43,541 --> 00:52:46,076
<i>the more I started to see some
of the injustices occurring in</i>

1075
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:49,181
<i>Armenia, mostly having to
do with the ruling elite,</i>

1076
00:52:49,213 --> 00:52:52,918
<i>a very corrupt ruling elite,
post-Soviet oligarchic ruling</i>

1077
00:52:52,951 --> 00:52:56,554
<i>elite, that felt that they
could do whatever they like,</i>

1078
00:52:56,588 --> 00:52:58,423
<i>uh, with impunity.</i>

1079
00:52:59,257 --> 00:53:00,958
<i>There was a
depopulation occurring,</i>

1080
00:53:00,992 --> 00:53:03,028
<i>people were leaving the country,
they were voting with their</i>

1081
00:53:03,061 --> 00:53:04,930
<i>feet, as it's called.</i>

1082
00:53:05,262 --> 00:53:06,730
Because they couldn't find jobs.

1083
00:53:06,764 --> 00:53:09,768
They didn't have, uh,
justice in the courts.

1084
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,737
They weren't able to provide a
great comfort and security and...

1085
00:53:13,771 --> 00:53:16,108
and... and lifestyle
for their children.

1086
00:53:18,076 --> 00:53:19,945
<i>Now, this was taboo in the
Armenian community in the</i>

1087
00:53:19,978 --> 00:53:22,581
<i>diaspora because
diasporan Armenians,</i>

1088
00:53:22,614 --> 00:53:25,650
<i>they didn't really want to talk
about the injustices in Armenia.</i>

1089
00:53:25,682 --> 00:53:28,920
<i>When you're going to Congress
asking for the recognition of</i>

1090
00:53:28,952 --> 00:53:32,791
<i>the genocide, it's not cool
for you to mention that there's</i>

1091
00:53:32,824 --> 00:53:34,992
<i>corruption in Armenia, there's
some bad shit happening in</i>

1092
00:53:35,025 --> 00:53:37,596
<i>Armenia that need to
be resolved as well.</i>

1093
00:53:44,635 --> 00:53:49,641
<i>March 1, 2008 is, uh, kind of
indelibly sketched into modern</i>

1094
00:53:50,474 --> 00:53:55,547
<i>Armenian history because there
were 10 deaths at a protest</i>

1095
00:53:55,579 --> 00:53:59,985
<i>protesting the election of
Serzh Sargsyan as President.</i>

1096
00:54:00,018 --> 00:54:03,255
In Armenia, at least nine
people now have died in clashes

1097
00:54:03,288 --> 00:54:06,123
between police and
opposition protesters.

1098
00:54:06,157 --> 00:54:09,961
<i>Outgoing President Robert
Kocharyan has imposed a...</i>

1099
00:54:09,994 --> 00:54:13,698
<i>People were dying,
uh, making their voices heard.</i>

1100
00:54:13,731 --> 00:54:16,167
<i>The protesters
accuse the government of rigging</i>

1101
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,703
<i>last month's
presidential election.</i>

1102
00:54:21,706 --> 00:54:24,976
And I was really, really
heartbroken that... that Armenia

1103
00:54:25,009 --> 00:54:27,646
is going through this
injustice and that,

1104
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:31,048
you know, this...
this hold on, you know,

1105
00:54:31,081 --> 00:54:34,552
uh, the populace and their
destiny was happening by a

1106
00:54:34,585 --> 00:54:37,054
handful of el...
elitists, corrupt elitists.

1107
00:54:37,088 --> 00:54:39,224
And so I wrote a public letter.

1108
00:54:54,172 --> 00:54:56,574
So after writing that
public letter to the President,

1109
00:54:56,608 --> 00:54:59,744
I... I didn't expect a
response, a... actually,

1110
00:54:59,777 --> 00:55:01,846
uh, but he did
respond, in public,

1111
00:55:01,878 --> 00:55:03,047
with his own letter.

1112
00:55:23,735 --> 00:55:26,771
<i>2015 was the centennial
of the Armenian genocide.</i>

1113
00:55:26,804 --> 00:55:28,206
<i>Thursday's
vote in the German parliament</i>

1114
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,108
<i>recognizing a genocide of
1.5 million Armenians...</i>

1115
00:55:31,141 --> 00:55:33,043
<i>Germany officially
recognized the genocide,</i>

1116
00:55:33,077 --> 00:55:36,048
<i>the... the Vatican officially
recognized the genocide.</i>

1117
00:55:43,788 --> 00:55:45,190
<i>It was the first time
System of a Down ever played</i>

1118
00:55:45,222 --> 00:55:46,958
<i>in Armenia, as well.</i>

1119
00:55:53,231 --> 00:55:55,066
<i>Here I was, dealing
with a government that</i>

1120
00:55:55,099 --> 00:55:56,267
<i>was unjust...</i>

1121
00:56:00,438 --> 00:56:02,273
that I was really
rallying against,

1122
00:56:02,306 --> 00:56:04,376
<i>yet I was also...</i>

1123
00:56:04,409 --> 00:56:07,077
spent my whole life fighting
for recognition of the Armenian

1124
00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:09,213
genocide, an external injustice.

1125
00:56:20,324 --> 00:56:22,760
<i>You know, I... I stayed up for
two nights thinking about how</i>

1126
00:56:22,793 --> 00:56:24,996
<i>I'm... how am I
gonna deal with this?</i>

1127
00:56:26,030 --> 00:56:28,833
At the time, it just came to
me in the middle of the night,

1128
00:56:28,865 --> 00:56:30,802
and I just said, "You know what?

1129
00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:32,771
I'm a fucking
musician, I'm an artist.

1130
00:56:32,804 --> 00:56:35,173
I'm gonna say everything I
need to say from my stage,

1131
00:56:35,206 --> 00:56:36,675
from our stage.

1132
00:56:36,708 --> 00:56:39,110
And the rest can
fall where it may."

1133
00:56:42,146 --> 00:56:45,250
<i>Before the show, we
got together with the guys from</i>

1134
00:56:45,282 --> 00:56:48,185
<i>System in the lobby of the
hotel we were at before we got</i>

1135
00:56:48,219 --> 00:56:49,019
<i>onstage.</i>

1136
00:56:49,052 --> 00:56:50,154
I'm honored to
be with you guys.

1137
00:56:50,188 --> 00:56:51,123
Me too.

1138
00:56:51,155 --> 00:56:53,791
This... this, like,
even more this time...

1139
00:56:53,824 --> 00:56:55,292
<i>And we
hugged each other.</i>

1140
00:56:57,161 --> 00:57:00,164
<i>I had this sense of
calmness that is rare.</i>

1141
00:57:00,364 --> 00:57:03,434
<i>And I just looked at the
guys and it almost felt like we</i>

1142
00:57:03,467 --> 00:57:06,270
<i>were... created...</i>

1143
00:57:06,304 --> 00:57:08,206
<i>to play that night.</i>

1144
00:57:08,672 --> 00:57:09,973
Now, let's go wait
for 20 more minutes.

1145
00:57:10,007 --> 00:57:11,309
Where are they?

1146
00:57:11,342 --> 00:57:12,977
<i>From day one, we had
songs about being Armenian and</i>

1147
00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:14,345
<i>the whole cause, you know?</i>

1148
00:57:14,378 --> 00:57:16,280
And it was like
one head, two head,

1149
00:57:16,313 --> 00:57:17,347
three head, four head.

1150
00:57:18,215 --> 00:57:19,417
And a whole
nation got... heard us.

1151
00:57:19,449 --> 00:57:22,152
They're like, "Fuck, they're...
they're... those young boys are...

1152
00:57:22,186 --> 00:57:24,155
are... are fucking soldiers."

1153
00:57:24,188 --> 00:57:27,826
We were soldiers with a
fucking... with a voice to say

1154
00:57:27,858 --> 00:57:28,726
something.

1155
00:57:29,927 --> 00:57:33,030
<i>It was as poignant
moment because all the drama of</i>

1156
00:57:33,063 --> 00:57:35,232
<i>the last 20 years,
it just went away.</i>

1157
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:39,336
And it was just four guys going
onstage and playing for their

1158
00:57:39,369 --> 00:57:40,471
people.

1159
00:57:47,378 --> 00:57:49,748
<i>We played
an amazing show.</i>

1160
00:57:50,114 --> 00:57:52,750
<i>It was raining, it
was really dramatic.</i>

1161
00:57:53,050 --> 00:57:55,420
<i>And the audience
was going crazy.</i>

1162
00:57:56,887 --> 00:57:58,355
<i>And I started talking.</i>

1163
00:57:58,389 --> 00:58:00,224
<i>The truth serum kicked in.</i>

1164
00:58:04,228 --> 00:58:06,364
For the last few days...

1165
00:58:07,197 --> 00:58:09,967
I haven't been
able to sleep well.

1166
00:58:10,768 --> 00:58:13,739
All I can think about
is my grandparents.

1167
00:58:14,405 --> 00:58:16,274
My grandfather...

1168
00:58:17,307 --> 00:58:20,043
My grandfather was five years
old when he saw his own father

1169
00:58:20,077 --> 00:58:21,379
die.

1170
00:58:23,146 --> 00:58:25,382
He lost his sight from hunger.

1171
00:58:26,282 --> 00:58:31,288
And I spoke about the
hypocrisy of Obama talking about

1172
00:58:31,621 --> 00:58:34,358
recognition of the genocide
as a senator before he became

1173
00:58:34,391 --> 00:58:37,895
President and not using the word
"genocide" because of Turkish

1174
00:58:37,929 --> 00:58:38,762
pressure.

1175
00:58:38,797 --> 00:58:41,132
So the fact that
the US government...

1176
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:44,434
picks the wrong word to
recognize what we know is

1177
00:58:44,467 --> 00:58:48,138
genocide is not
only appalling to us,

1178
00:58:48,172 --> 00:58:50,442
it's appalling to Americans.

1179
00:58:50,809 --> 00:58:52,544
And then I talked about
the Armenian government.

1180
00:58:52,577 --> 00:58:54,813
We've come a long way, Armenia.

1181
00:58:55,012 --> 00:58:57,382
But there's still a lot
of fucking work to do.

1182
00:59:00,585 --> 00:59:02,287
It is the responsibility
of the government

1183
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,123
of the Republic of Armenia...

1184
00:59:05,155 --> 00:59:09,427
to bring in the principles
of egalitarian civic society.

1185
00:59:14,965 --> 00:59:18,135
Getting rid of the institutional
injustice abound...

1186
00:59:22,974 --> 00:59:26,477
and stopping the
depopulation that is occurring.

1187
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,282
<i>I didn't know long
it would take for the</i>

1188
00:59:31,315 --> 00:59:35,954
<i>reversal of fortunes, but
I knew that it was coming.</i>

1189
00:59:45,161 --> 00:59:48,198
<i>In 2017, there were
parliamentary elections.</i>

1190
00:59:48,231 --> 00:59:52,202
<i>I saw that as the last hope for
Armenia to be able to come back</i>

1191
00:59:52,235 --> 00:59:56,607
<i>into progressive democracy
from this oligarchic decline.</i>

1192
00:59:56,641 --> 00:59:57,474
Calm down, man.

1193
00:59:57,507 --> 00:59:58,208
Calm down.

1194
00:59:58,242 --> 00:59:58,743
It's gonna be
okay.

1195
00:59:58,775 --> 01:00:00,010
It's gonna be okay.

1196
01:00:00,043 --> 01:00:00,644
You're gonna be fine.

1197
01:00:00,677 --> 01:00:01,746
You're gonna be just fine.

1198
01:00:01,778 --> 01:00:03,614
Just... as long as you
vote, you're gonna be fine.

1199
01:00:03,648 --> 01:00:05,350
As long as you vote,
you're gonna be fine.

1200
01:00:05,382 --> 01:00:06,516
As long as you vote.

1201
01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:07,818
<i>Myself and
a number of, uh,</i>

1202
01:00:07,851 --> 01:00:11,489
<i>artist friends, we went under
the coalition called Justice</i>

1203
01:00:11,521 --> 01:00:12,990
<i>Within Armenia.</i>

1204
01:00:13,023 --> 01:00:14,192
Young people, please vote.

1205
01:00:14,224 --> 01:00:17,394
Don't block these elections,
because this is your only chance

1206
01:00:17,427 --> 01:00:18,528
to make your voice heard.

1207
01:00:18,563 --> 01:00:21,231
Irrespective of corruption,
irrespective of all the

1208
01:00:21,264 --> 01:00:22,400
limitations...

1209
01:00:22,432 --> 01:00:24,501
Some people in... in the
government accused us of being

1210
01:00:24,534 --> 01:00:28,505
foreign spies, and to be
called a foreign spy in my own,

1211
01:00:28,539 --> 01:00:32,076
you know, cultural
homeland, you know?

1212
01:00:32,108 --> 01:00:34,511
And... that really
pissed us all off.

1213
01:00:34,545 --> 01:00:36,213
<i>♪ I don't
give a fuck about the FBI ♪</i>

1214
01:00:36,246 --> 01:00:38,515
<i>♪ I don't give a
fuck about the CIA ♪</i>

1215
01:00:38,548 --> 01:00:40,518
<i>♪ I don't give a
fuck about the KGB ♪</i>

1216
01:00:40,550 --> 01:00:43,186
<i>♪ I don't give a
fuck about the FSB ♪</i>

1217
01:00:43,219 --> 01:00:45,188
Okay, so,...

1218
01:00:47,425 --> 01:00:49,560
<i>We wrote all these statements
encouraging monitors to come to</i>

1219
01:00:49,592 --> 01:00:53,464
<i>Armenia and be eyewitnesses
to what's going on.</i>

1220
01:01:06,443 --> 01:01:09,047
<i>I went to at least 12
polling stations around the</i>

1221
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:10,414
<i>country.</i>

1222
01:01:10,447 --> 01:01:13,083
Some guy's
writing stuff on a car.

1223
01:01:13,416 --> 01:01:16,554
But we realized quickly that the
votes were already bought and

1224
01:01:16,586 --> 01:01:17,755
paid for ahead of time.

1225
01:01:17,788 --> 01:01:21,224
We had a guy who basically
was keeping tabs on the voters,

1226
01:01:21,257 --> 01:01:23,694
sitting right
behind the ballot box.

1227
01:01:23,728 --> 01:01:26,530
<i>Right in front
of the eyes of the OSC,</i>

1228
01:01:26,563 --> 01:01:30,134
<i>right in front of the eyes of
the European Council of Nations.</i>

1229
01:01:33,737 --> 01:01:37,274
<i>Right in front of
the eyes of all us monitors.</i>

1230
01:01:46,117 --> 01:01:49,287
I was so disappointed, I
couldn't even bring myself to go

1231
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,090
speak at the
post-election press conference.

1232
01:01:56,126 --> 01:01:59,163
<i>President
Serzh Sargsyan's ruling party is</i>

1233
01:01:59,195 --> 01:02:02,266
<i>well ahead in Armenia's
landmark election.</i>

1234
01:02:02,298 --> 01:02:05,335
<i>This is the first ballot to
usher in a new parliamentary</i>

1235
01:02:05,369 --> 01:02:08,106
<i>system of government, yet
critics see the change as an</i>

1236
01:02:08,139 --> 01:02:10,641
<i>effort to prolong
his political life.</i>

1237
01:02:10,673 --> 01:02:13,510
<i>And with claims of
voting fraud multiplying...</i>

1238
01:02:13,543 --> 01:02:18,016
<i>The Republican Party
of Armenia won a huge majority,</i>

1239
01:02:18,048 --> 01:02:22,019
<i>and so it seemed like Armenia's
progressive democratic future</i>

1240
01:02:22,052 --> 01:02:23,286
<i>was doomed.</i>

1241
01:02:26,489 --> 01:02:29,393
<i>And I was fucking depressed.</i>

1242
01:02:55,385 --> 01:02:58,523
<i>Power is always afraid
of... of means that can</i>

1243
01:02:58,556 --> 01:03:01,659
<i>break out of it: music,
dancing, you know,</i>

1244
01:03:01,692 --> 01:03:04,628
<i>anything that can
move a soul, you know?</i>

1245
01:03:04,661 --> 01:03:07,197
<i>And stir the soul.</i>

1246
01:03:09,266 --> 01:03:13,070
So... can
music change the world?

1247
01:03:15,706 --> 01:03:18,242
Music changes our
intuitive hearts.

1248
01:03:18,275 --> 01:03:20,677
Like, our... our... our... music
changes the way we feel about

1249
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:22,246
things.

1250
01:03:22,547 --> 01:03:25,516
<i>How we feel about things
can overwhelm our logic.</i>

1251
01:03:25,548 --> 01:03:26,784
<i>Four Armenian kids.</i>

1252
01:03:26,817 --> 01:03:29,853
<i>And now, we're on CNN and
there's a riot because of us?</i>

1253
01:03:29,887 --> 01:03:32,557
<i>And our logic being a
part of the process can change</i>

1254
01:03:32,590 --> 01:03:33,791
<i>the world.</i>

1255
01:03:33,824 --> 01:03:35,725
<i>We were
soldiers with a voice to say</i>

1256
01:03:35,759 --> 01:03:37,027
<i>something.</i>

1257
01:03:37,061 --> 01:03:39,564
<i>That's the
true artist's role in society.</i>

1258
01:03:39,597 --> 01:03:42,834
<i>It is our
responsibility to push back.</i>

1259
01:03:42,867 --> 01:03:45,870
<i>But it requires people
realizing that they have the</i>

1260
01:03:45,902 --> 01:03:47,471
<i>power.</i>

1261
01:03:48,371 --> 01:03:51,208
<i>Open your
eyes, open your mouths,</i>

1262
01:03:51,242 --> 01:03:53,544
<i>close your hand and make a fist.</i>

1263
01:03:56,246 --> 01:03:58,282
<i>Down with the system.</i>

1264
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,269
So it's the end
of March and Ang goes,

1265
01:04:18,302 --> 01:04:20,438
"Hey, did you check out
what's going on in Armenia?"

1266
01:04:20,471 --> 01:04:21,806
And she was looking at Facebook.

1267
01:04:36,487 --> 01:04:37,755
<i>Nikol
Pashinyan, who was,</i>

1268
01:04:37,788 --> 01:04:40,490
<i>uh, an opposition
member of parliament,</i>

1269
01:04:40,523 --> 01:04:43,460
<i>started a protest walk.</i>

1270
01:04:48,632 --> 01:04:51,135
<i>And this little
movement was starting.</i>

1271
01:05:21,498 --> 01:05:24,302
<i>What was really unique
about this movement were the</i>

1272
01:05:24,335 --> 01:05:29,340
<i>ethos.</i>

1273
01:05:29,739 --> 01:05:32,376
<i>They said that we want
a completely peaceful movement.</i>

1274
01:06:07,878 --> 01:06:10,381
<i>The only way to describe
it is decentralized civil</i>

1275
01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:11,582
<i>disobedience.</i>

1276
01:06:16,887 --> 01:06:17,988
Police would come
and go, "All right,

1277
01:06:18,021 --> 01:06:19,222
you gotta unblock this
intersection," and they would

1278
01:06:19,255 --> 01:06:21,826
just go on the sidewalk and
the police would walk away and

1279
01:06:21,858 --> 01:06:23,795
they'd jump, the
police would come back...

1280
01:06:25,628 --> 01:06:27,030
<i>I mean, it
was like Tom and Jerry!</i>

1281
01:06:27,063 --> 01:06:28,699
<i>It was almost funny.</i>

1282
01:06:34,038 --> 01:06:38,376
This was an ingenious
way to show the people that they

1283
01:06:38,409 --> 01:06:39,911
owned the country.

1284
01:06:48,318 --> 01:06:50,887
I want to
congratulate you for, so far,

1285
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,290
holding one of the most
successful civil disobendience

1286
01:06:53,324 --> 01:06:56,027
campaigns in all of
Armenian history.

1287
01:06:56,059 --> 01:06:58,762
<i>You've realized this cultural
awakening and decision to pursue</i>

1288
01:06:58,795 --> 01:07:01,398
<i>justice is a basic human right.</i>

1289
01:07:01,431 --> 01:07:05,068
I can see the love in your eyes
and in your hearts like I did

1290
01:07:05,101 --> 01:07:08,905
when we played in 2015 with
System of a Down from the stage.

1291
01:07:12,943 --> 01:07:15,413
<i>Finally, the government
of Armenia realizes that there</i>

1292
01:07:15,445 --> 01:07:17,748
<i>is no way around these protests.</i>

1293
01:07:32,929 --> 01:07:34,964
Serzh Sargsyan,
the President, says,

1294
01:07:34,998 --> 01:07:38,601
"Let's talk about what...
what your demands are."

1295
01:07:38,635 --> 01:07:41,472
And Nikol says, "We
only have one demand..."

1296
01:08:03,994 --> 01:08:06,931
<i>So at this point, I've
got this horrendous flu from</i>

1297
01:08:06,963 --> 01:08:07,864
<i>hell.</i>

1298
01:08:07,898 --> 01:08:09,366
There's, like, shit
running out of my nose,

1299
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:10,367
I've got fever.

1300
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,538
But I'm, like, obsessed
just watching this 24/7.

1301
01:08:15,172 --> 01:08:16,740
<i>And then suddenly...</i>

1302
01:08:28,185 --> 01:08:31,122
"Serj Tankian, it's time that
you come and join your people."

1303
01:08:31,154 --> 01:08:32,856
And I'm like...

1304
01:08:33,689 --> 01:08:35,359
"Oh, my God."

1305
01:09:07,090 --> 01:09:09,760
Next thing you
know, you see priests,

1306
01:09:09,792 --> 01:09:13,029
you see soldiers on the
street with the people,

1307
01:09:13,063 --> 01:09:14,597
walking arm-to-arm.

1308
01:09:27,944 --> 01:09:30,613
And the announcement comes that
the Prime Minister of Armenia

1309
01:09:30,646 --> 01:09:31,314
has resigned.

1310
01:09:31,347 --> 01:09:33,016
"Serzh Sargsyan has resigned."

1311
01:09:38,121 --> 01:09:40,925
<i>An eruption
on the streets of Yerevan as</i>

1312
01:09:40,957 --> 01:09:44,894
<i>tens of thousands of citizens
flood the capital to celebrate</i>

1313
01:09:44,927 --> 01:09:48,765
<i>the miraculous
resignation of Serzh Sargsyan.</i>

1314
01:09:49,132 --> 01:09:51,601
<i>It was a
David versus Goliath battle,</i>

1315
01:09:51,635 --> 01:09:53,938
<i>as peaceful protests
brought down the most powerful</i>

1316
01:09:53,970 --> 01:09:57,941
<i>government in the history
of this post-Soviet nation.</i>

1317
01:11:18,188 --> 01:11:21,190
<i>There were so many
people on the street greeting us</i>

1318
01:11:21,224 --> 01:11:23,027
<i>that we couldn't drive.</i>

1319
01:11:27,029 --> 01:11:30,033
<i>I saw thousands
of people on the street...</i>

1320
01:11:30,667 --> 01:11:34,305
<i>with the most joy in their eyes
that I've ever seen in my life.</i>

1321
01:11:42,712 --> 01:11:44,847
<i>And they
were honoring him,</i>

1322
01:11:44,881 --> 01:11:49,887
<i>and me, with traditional
Armenian gata and cognac and</i>

1323
01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:51,922
<i>stuff like that,
you know?</i>

1324
01:11:54,123 --> 01:11:56,159
It's just so surreal, man.

1325
01:11:56,193 --> 01:11:58,596
It's so surreal.

1326
01:12:15,244 --> 01:12:19,782
<i>We, uh, went to have
some tea and... and some dessert.</i>

1327
01:12:19,815 --> 01:12:23,886
He... he's... he's executed
the perfect revolution,

1328
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,724
and I'm asking, "So, wh... how many
of you were there in the beginning?

1329
01:12:26,756 --> 01:12:27,290
And how was it?

1330
01:12:27,323 --> 01:12:28,058
How did you plan this?

1331
01:12:28,091 --> 01:12:29,159
Was that planned?
Was that..."

1332
01:12:29,193 --> 01:12:31,762
Like, he's just, like,
answering them and laughing.

1333
01:12:42,104 --> 01:12:45,141
And at one point, he says,
"Do you realize something?"

1334
01:12:45,175 --> 01:12:50,181
He goes, "You realize
that Anna and I, my wife and I,

1335
01:12:50,780 --> 01:12:54,251
were in the audience in 2015
watching you in System of a

1336
01:12:54,283 --> 01:12:55,152
Down."

1337
01:12:57,287 --> 01:12:58,655
Oh, yeah?

1338
01:13:01,824 --> 01:13:06,229
He goes, "I figured, if you
guys can bring 50,000 people,

1339
01:13:06,262 --> 01:13:09,298
we should be able to bring 50...
more... more than 50,000 people

1340
01:13:09,332 --> 01:13:10,500
and do a revolution."

1341
01:13:10,533 --> 01:13:12,403
He goes, "That made me feel
like this is all possible."

1342
01:13:12,435 --> 01:13:14,170
And I was like...

1343
01:14:17,234 --> 01:14:20,871
I'm so proud that I
come from a nation...

1344
01:14:43,894 --> 01:14:45,095
All right.

1345
01:14:45,128 --> 01:14:48,332
I'm so proud that I come from a
nation that created a peaceful

1346
01:14:48,364 --> 01:14:53,369
revolution that... that was able
to hand people their destiny.

1347
01:14:55,238 --> 01:14:58,876
And it's a lesson to the world
that positive change can occur

1348
01:14:58,908 --> 01:15:01,112
in today's era of division.

1349
01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:05,215
And, uh, all this right-wing
extremism and all this fucking

1350
01:15:05,247 --> 01:15:07,784
shit going on in the
world, there is hope.

1351
01:15:23,166 --> 01:15:26,270
The House voted overwhelmingly
to recognize the century-old

1352
01:15:26,302 --> 01:15:28,271
- mass killings...
- Mass killings of Armenians

1353
01:15:28,305 --> 01:15:30,106
by Ottoman Turks as genocide.

1354
01:15:30,140 --> 01:15:32,409
<i>As international
observers wrote at the time,</i>

1355
01:15:32,442 --> 01:15:35,813
<i>"It was a campaign of
race extermination."</i>

1356
01:15:35,845 --> 01:15:38,414
One that we, as members of
Congress and as freedom-loving

1357
01:15:38,448 --> 01:15:42,252
people, have a moral
obligation to never forget.

1358
01:15:42,284 --> 01:15:44,387
A moment when the House of
Representatives refused to be

1359
01:15:44,421 --> 01:15:47,825
enlisted in the cause
of genocide denial.

1360
01:15:47,858 --> 01:15:50,961
<i>The non-binding
resolution passed 405 to 11.</i>

1361
01:15:50,993 --> 01:15:52,395
The resolution is adopted.



