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- In the armed forces,

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there's a nuclear
weapons program

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called the Personnel
Reliability Program.

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Do you have personal defects?

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Do you have financial problems
which could compromise you?

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Do you have a problem
with infidelity?

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This is the program
where they screen you

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to see if you can be trusted

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to hold an M16 to
guard the truck

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that might carry
a nuclear weapon.

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Not that it will, that it might.

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That also is the program
where they determine

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whether you're an Air Force
missile flight officer,

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whether you can go
down into a bunker

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and be responsible
to turn the keys on

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a Minuteman-III missile.

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- [Announcer] The Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

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- That is an entire
scaled evaluation program

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that shows your
personal reliability

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to carry out your orders and
to do the highest risk things

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like fly a B-52
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and drop a nuclear weapon.

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The President of
the United States

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doesn't have to meet
any of these parameters,

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none of them whatsoever,

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because the electorate
choosing you

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clears you into all
of these programs.

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[crowd cheering]

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We have a president
of the United States

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who was duly elected,
he was put into office,

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given the great faith of
the people who voted him in.

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- I Donald John Trump
do solemnly swear.

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- I Donald John Trump
do solemnly swear.

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- And if we look at
the great presidents

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of the United States,

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there's one unifying thing:

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they maintained the continuity

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in how the Constitution
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- [John] So help me God.

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- So help me God.

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- Congratulations,
Mr. President.

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- At first, it was just
political name calling

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and insults suggesting
Donald Trump was a lunatic.

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- This man is a
pathological liar.

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- Guarantee I have a vocabulary
better than all of 'em,

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I know I have an IQ
better than all of them.

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I'm very highly educated.

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I know words.

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I have the best words

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but there's no better
word than stupid.

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Oh, I don't know what I said.

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I don't remember.

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I could stand in the
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and shoot somebody and I
wouldn't lose any voters, okay?

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- [Man] But more recently,

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the conversation about the
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has taken a more serious tone.

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- I can't explain
this crazy behavior,

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but I can call it crazy.

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- [Donald] We've taken
this big, beautiful ship

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and it's being turned
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- [Man] I'm not a
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but the guy needs therapy.

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- USA!

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USA!

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I am the chosen one.

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- [Man] Almost everyone
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Could Donald Trump
be unfit for office?

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- Good evening.

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Thank you guys for coming.

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I know our first
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is gonna to be on Monday

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but I wanted to give
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on the President's activities.

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But before I get to
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I think I'd like to discuss
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in the past 24 hours.

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Yesterday, at a time when
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was watching the peaceful
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some members of the
media were engaged

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in deliberately false reporting.

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Photographs of the
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were intentionally framed in a
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to minimize the enormous support

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that had gathered on
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No one had numbers.

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This was the largest audience

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to ever witness an
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both in person and
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Even the New York Times
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- Why put him out there
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and utter a falsehood?

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Why did he do that?

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It undermines the credibility

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of the entire White House
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- No it doesn't.

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Don't be so overly
dramatic about it, Chuck.

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You're saying it's a falsehood

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and they're giving Sean
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gave alternative facts to that

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but the point remains
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- Wait a minute,
alternative facts?

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Look, alternative facts are
not facts, they're falsehoods.

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- My name's George Conway.

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I'm a lawyer, I'm a litigator.

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I principally practice
securities litigation.

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I've argued appeals

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including a big case
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My wife was Donald
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and now is Counselor
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- And he said a lot
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- I was a Republican
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when Ronald Reagan
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I voted for Donald Trump in 2016

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and I almost took a job in
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to run the Civil Division of
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Donald Trump wasn't
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among the Republican nominees

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but I was hopeful that
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and get better as time went on.

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He started to show a
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He would only go off the
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instead of every day,

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but the problem was

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once he got into the
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he lost some of his
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and I'm thinking at
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"What is wrong with him?"

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Donald Trump is like a practical
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I mean, that's the problem.

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I mean, I didn't go
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for a lot of reasons

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but the fundamental
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I guess I must've been googling
Trump and mental health

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because I clearly thought

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there's something
seriously wrong with him

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and I came across an article
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Is Trump a Malignant Narcissist?

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And a number of people like
Dr. Gartner were interviewed

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and as soon as I read
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You cannot understand his
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- My name is John Gartner.

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I'm a psychologist.

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I taught in the
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at Johns Hopkins
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I've written some books and I'm
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an organization of mental
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that believe that Donald
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because he's
psychologically unfit.

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My name is Lance Dodes.

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I'm a psychiatrist
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I've spent most of
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looking at compulsive
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and I've become interested in
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in politics in recent years

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because of the threat
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- My name is Justin Frank,

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a psychoanalyst
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I've been in practice in
DC for about 40 years.

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Is Donald Trump fit to
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and Commander in Chief?

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I can answer that
with one word, no.

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Trump is a sociopath,
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a racist, a misogynist,
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and I think it is a problem.

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- How dare liberals,
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try to undo democracy
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of being mentally ill
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Look, these psychiatrists now
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without ever having met the man.

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- This is not the first time

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the left has gone
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They did the same thing
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they did the same
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- Over 1,000 psychiatrists
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and said he was mentally ill,

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they were then rebuked

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by the American
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"Do not make diagnosis
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And they continue
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- [Narrator] The
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bellwether state of the nation.

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It goes to the
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and growing support
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- So, the Goldwater rule
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In 1964, Barry Goldwater
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and a now defunct
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did a survey of psychiatrists
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saying psychiatrists think
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Goldwater sued them and he won

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and as it turns out,
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It was libelous.

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He was not unstable.

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who wrote those statements
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it's important for
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the history of our field,

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this was in the '60s
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really ruled the roost.

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- This is what I've discovered.

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We are constantly
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unconscious forces
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- [John] And so their
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he's a latent homosexual,

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he's been scarred by
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he has an unresolved
Oedipus complex.

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- [Narrator] Based
on unconscious hate
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caused by childhood jealousy.

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- Freudian psychiatry,

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though it has many important
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and helped move the
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it's not been used well

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in terms of its
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I actually interviewed
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of the ethics committee that
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and he said these were
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they weren't founded in fact,

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and so they embarrassed
the profession

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because they were
really idle speculations

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and so that's why
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He said to me,

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"We never intended it
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meaning that psychiatrists
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about public figures,

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"We just didn't want them
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- The Goldwater rule today
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and the incorrect part about it

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is that it now is being
used to suppress speech

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about things that are knowable.

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It's as nonsensical as
saying an orthopedic surgeon

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shouldn't be able to watch
somebody in a football injury

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and say that person
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he can say it because he's
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Something happened,
he observed it.

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- And what people
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is that actually the
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is the least reliable
method of making a diagnosis

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because our current
diagnostic system, the DSM,

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is based on observable,
behavioral criteria.

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Well, when you meet with
someone they can lie to you.

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So, they can say, "Oh,
I never did that,"

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or, "I don't do that."

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But if you can actually
observe their behavior,

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if you can follow them around,

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if you can watch them on TV,

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if you can read
their social media,

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if you could talk to all
their significant others,

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you'd probably get a much
more reliable indicator

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of how they behave.

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- I'm not concerned
about anything

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with the Russian investigation
because it's a hoax.

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That's enough.

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Put down the mic.
- Mr. President.

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- I am more confident in my
diagnosis of Donald Trump

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than any diagnosis
I've ever made before

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because I have more information.

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- By outward appearance,

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you're 10 years older
than you were a year ago.

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- Some weariness
has bit at my bones.

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- It's not true

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that having any kind of
mental health disorder

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would make someone
a bad president.

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One of my favorite books

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is a book called
"Lincoln's Melancholy",

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about how Lincoln's being
a depressive personality

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is part of what allowed
him to win the Civil War.

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He had a capacity to
endure mental suffering

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that was baked into who he was

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and so the enormous
burden of the Civil War

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was something he was
actually able to endure.

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- I have seen what's happened
in this last four years

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when in my state, when
people lose their jobs

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there's a good chance I'll
know them by their names.

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- Bill Clinton, I wrote a
biography of Bill Clinton,

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about how his hypomania was
part of what energized him

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in terms of his charisma
and his creativity,

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it also had to do with his
impulse control problems

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and his hypersexuality,

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so it was a double-edged sword

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but it doesn't disqualify
someone from being president

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if they have a
psychological disorder,

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but Donald Trump
shows clear signs

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of the most severe
personality disorder,

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it's called malignant narcissism

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and was first introduced
by Erich Fromm

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who escaped the Nazis and
spent a lot of his life

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trying to understand
the psychology of evil.

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And he formulated this diagnosis
of malignant narcissism

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which has four components:
narcissism, paranoia,

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anti-social personality
disorder and sadism.

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I think everybody knows Donald
Trump's a narcissist by now.

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- I will be the
greatest jobs producer

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that God ever created.

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I know more about ISIS than
the generals do, believe me.

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- Who are you consulting
with consistently

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so that you're ready on day one?

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- [Donald] I'm speaking
with myself, number one,

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because I have a
very good brain.

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- But it's the other
three components

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that make him truly dangerous,

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because many politicians
are narcissistic

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but he's also paranoid.

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So all of his crazy
conspiracy theories.

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- The state of Hawaii released

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my official long-form
birth certificate.

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- [Moderator] The
birth certificate
was produced in 2011.

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You continued to tell the story

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and question the president's
legitimacy in 2012,

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'13, '14, '15.

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- Yeah.

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- How about this one
about Ted Cruz's father?

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- [Donald] His father was
with Lee Harvey Oswald

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prior to Oswald's being shot
and nobody even brings it up.

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- And his sense
of being a victim.

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- [Reporter] Mr. Trump turned
his sights on Google tweeting,

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"They have it rigged
for me and others

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"so that almost all
stories and news is bad."

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- And his demonization of
anyone who disagrees with him.

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- Nasty guy.

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Now I know why he doesn't
have one endorsement

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from any of his colleagues.

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- All right, John,
I get to respond.

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- [Moderator] Senator has
picked from the buffet there.

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- He's a nasty guy.

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- These are all signs
of a paranoid process,

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anti-social
personality disorder,

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or what used to be called
psychopathy or sociopathy.

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It's constant lying, well,
he's the most documented liar

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in human history, I
think, at this point.

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It's violating the
rights of other people

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and exploiting other people.

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So, sexual assault
would be violating

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the rights of other people,

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not paying your bills,

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or defrauding people
through Trump University

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would be an example of
exploiting other people

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and it's breaking laws
and breaking norms.

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Well, he's broken every
norm of the presidency,

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that's one of the reasons
he's so out of control.

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There's certain norms we
thought no one would ever break

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but it's part of his personality
disorder to break norms

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and to break laws and
it's a lack of remorse.

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He has no guilt or anxiety

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about the destructive
things that he does.

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- Impeachment for that?

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It was beautiful.

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It was just a
perfect conversation.

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- And the fourth component

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that Erich Fromm
identified is sadism,

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truly taking pleasure
in harming, humiliating,

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and degrading
other human beings.

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If you read his tweets,

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I wrote an introduction to
a book about his tweets,

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I had to read to read
thousands of his tweets

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and they literally made me ill

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because it was just
one vicious attack

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and humiliating insult
after another after another.

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I was like how can
someone even come up

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with thousands of vicious things

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to say about so many people?

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But he enjoys degrading
and humiliating

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and insulting other people.

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- I do think that we
have enough evidence

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that most psychiatrists would
feel like it's important

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to warn about Trump.

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We have a duty to warn.

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- Psychologists, and really all
mental health professionals,

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have the duty to protect society

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if there's a risk to society.

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[eerie music]

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- So the Tarasoff
case was in the 1970s.

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A patient said to
a psychologist,

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"I'm gonna go home and
murder my girlfriend."

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The psychologist didn't
warn the potential victim

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and the patient went home
and killed the girlfriend

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and it's now the
law in all 50 states

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that if you are
aware that a patient

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might be a danger to someone,

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confidentiality
goes out the window,

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and confidentiality is
one of our core values

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but it's more important
to warn someone

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who could be harmed

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than it is to maintain
even our core value

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of confidentiality.

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Trump is not my patient,

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he's not saying I'm gonna
go kill my girlfriend

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but the number of
people who are at risk,

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the number of people who could
be harmed isn't one person,

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it's hundreds of
millions of people.

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So if we didn't speak up,
that would be the morality.

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What annoys me about
the Goldwater rule

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the way it's being
interpreted now,

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is it's being interpreted
as if we are being unethical

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by speaking out and
warning the public

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when in fact I
asked this question

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to whom will history be kinder?

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Those who spoke up during
the age when Trump rose,

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or those who were silent?

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- I want the cleanest
water on Earth.

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I want the cleanest
air on Earth,

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and that's what we're doing

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and I'm an
environmentalist as you,

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a lot of people don't
understand that.

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I have done more environmental
impact statements

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probably than anybody that's
I guess I can say definitely

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because I've done many,
many, many of them

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more than anybody that's
ever been president,

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or vice president, or anything
even close to president,

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and I think I know more
about the environment

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than most people.

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[upbeat music]

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- Gaslighting is a crucial
tool of abusive personalities.

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It is lying to someone in a way

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that makes them doubt their
own perception of reality.

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- I'm Dr. Ramani Durvasula.

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I'm a professor of psychology.

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It's an interesting place

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where the origin of this
term gaslight came from,

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it came from what was
a play in the '30s

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and then became a film
called "Gaslight",

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and it was about a man

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who was slowly trying
to drive his wife mad.

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- A moment ago, the gas dimmed

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as it does when someone turns
on another light in the house.

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Did you turn on another
light, Elizabeth?

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- No, ma'am, there's no
one in the house but us.

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- [Ramani] The gaslights kept
getting turned up and down

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and he was denying
having done it.

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- You're going to
see a doctor, Madam.

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- No.

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- [Husband] More than one
doctor tomorrow morning.

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- Very common sorts of
gaslighting statements

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are things like, it
never happened that way,

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you must be losing your mind.

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They'll literally say things
happened that didn't happen,

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I didn't do that,
I didn't say that.

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Many people call gaslighting
a form of emotional abuse

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because what you're really
doing is setting out

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to confuse another person.

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When you confuse
someone like that,

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you really do almost render
them more vulnerable to you

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and actually easier to coerce

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because now they don't
really know which way is up.

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It's as though you've
turned gravity off

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and turned them upside down.

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- I don't know if you remember
the point where Trump said,

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"Listen, don't pay attention
to what you're seeing,

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"don't pay attention to
what you're hearing."

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- What you're seeing
and what you're reading

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is not what's happening.

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- And it's interesting
because as human beings

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we're actually
vulnerable to this.

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There's a famous experience
in social psychology

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called the Asch Experiment.

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The Asch Experiment is they
show lines on a screen,

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one is clearly
longer than the other

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and they ask them
which line is longer

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and they get it correct
100% of the time.

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- That's two.

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- Then you bring in
four confederates

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who work for the experimenter

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but you pretend they're also
in the study as subjects

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and they all say that the
shorter line is longer.

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- [Man] Three.

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- [Three] Three.

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- Three.

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- Three?

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- 50% of the time the person
will reverse themselves

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and say, "You're right, the
shorter line is the longer one."

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We're very subject
to the influence,

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our reality testing is very
subject to the influence

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of social pressures.

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So when he does these things

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that are blatantly
destructive and disordered

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and yet people act
as if they're normal

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and they poo-poo
these observations,

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eventually we begin to
quest ourselves and think,

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"Oh, maybe I'm wrong.

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"Maybe it actually is normal."

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- What has been so disturbing

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is that we've discovered,
at least some of us,

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that it's much quicker

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to demolish a building
than to build one

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and Trump understands that

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and I think he can demolish a
lot of our faith as a nation

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in our institutions,

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he can demolish the
effectiveness of institutions,

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he can certainly psychologically
confuse and gaslight people

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like nobody's business.

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[cameras clicking]

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- Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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I said during the transition,
I'll say it up here,

508
00:22:16.749 --> 00:22:18.751
I think there's been, at times,

509
00:22:18.785 --> 00:22:21.547
a disconnect between the
way we see the president

510
00:22:21.581 --> 00:22:23.411
and how much we
love the president

511
00:22:23.445 --> 00:22:26.275
and the way some of you
perhaps see the president.

512
00:22:26.310 --> 00:22:28.347
I certainly see the American
probably see the president

513
00:22:28.381 --> 00:22:29.589
the way I do,

514
00:22:29.624 --> 00:22:31.764
but we wanna get that
message out there

515
00:22:31.798 --> 00:22:33.938
and to use a Wall
Street expression,

516
00:22:33.973 --> 00:22:35.871
there might be an
arbitrage spread

517
00:22:35.906 --> 00:22:38.011
between how well we are doing

518
00:22:38.046 --> 00:22:39.668
and how well some of you
guys think we're doing

519
00:22:39.703 --> 00:22:41.498
and we're gonna work hard
to close that spread.

520
00:22:41.532 --> 00:22:43.327
My name's Anthony Scaramucci.

521
00:22:44.466 --> 00:22:45.674
I spent 11 days
in the White House

522
00:22:45.709 --> 00:22:47.883
as the president's
Communications Director.

523
00:22:48.884 --> 00:22:51.508
Trump is wickedly smart.

524
00:22:51.542 --> 00:22:55.028
The guy made it to the American
presidency, he's not stupid.

525
00:22:55.063 --> 00:22:58.031
You can hate Trump 'cause he
says assholeish things, okay?

526
00:22:58.066 --> 00:23:01.380
And he's an obnoxious
guy at times,

527
00:23:01.414 --> 00:23:04.866
but what you're missing is
that he's now a reflection

528
00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:07.213
of the cultural zeitgeist,

529
00:23:07.247 --> 00:23:09.871
he's an avatar of that anger.

530
00:23:09.905 --> 00:23:12.460
So when he's lighting
people up on Twitter,

531
00:23:12.494 --> 00:23:14.151
there's a very large group of
people in the United States

532
00:23:14.185 --> 00:23:16.567
that are actually giggling
and they enjoy it.

533
00:23:17.741 --> 00:23:18.983
- [Interviewer] What are
you earliest memories

534
00:23:19.018 --> 00:23:20.468
of Donald Trump?

535
00:23:20.502 --> 00:23:23.194
- My earliest memories of
Donald Trump are actually 1983,

536
00:23:24.748 --> 00:23:28.268
during the Christmas season
I visited the Trump Tower.

537
00:23:29.615 --> 00:23:31.133
- [Narrator] The Trump
Tower when it's completed,

538
00:23:31.168 --> 00:23:33.722
will be $400 million worth
of high-priced apartments,

539
00:23:33.757 --> 00:23:36.000
commercial space and boutiques.

540
00:23:36.035 --> 00:23:37.450
- What's happened is phenomenal.

541
00:23:37.485 --> 00:23:39.107
I've never seen
anything to the extent

542
00:23:39.141 --> 00:23:40.349
that I have in New York.

543
00:23:40.384 --> 00:23:42.006
It now, from a real
estate standpoint,

544
00:23:42.041 --> 00:23:44.526
has probably become the
hottest city in the world.

545
00:23:46.632 --> 00:23:49.082
- That building was
a brand new building

546
00:23:49.117 --> 00:23:50.739
in the center of New York

547
00:23:50.774 --> 00:23:53.673
and it was a lot of
publicity and fanfare.

548
00:23:53.708 --> 00:23:56.987
It's got brass and
a ton of pink marble

549
00:23:57.021 --> 00:23:59.092
and it's a modern structure,

550
00:23:59.127 --> 00:24:01.336
and he did a great
job marketing it.

551
00:24:01.370 --> 00:24:02.820
He sold out the condominiums

552
00:24:02.855 --> 00:24:05.927
and he built for
himself a triplex

553
00:24:05.961 --> 00:24:09.309
which literally looks like
Louis XIV smoked crystal meth

554
00:24:09.344 --> 00:24:10.518
and then decorated it for him.

555
00:24:10.552 --> 00:24:12.485
I mean, it's ridiculous.

556
00:24:12.520 --> 00:24:13.762
Walk into his office,

557
00:24:13.797 --> 00:24:16.316
he had a ton of pictures
of himself on the wall,

558
00:24:16.351 --> 00:24:19.250
ton of magazine covers and
all that sort of stuff.

559
00:24:21.045 --> 00:24:23.220
I read "The Art of the Deal"
when I was in law school

560
00:24:23.254 --> 00:24:24.497
when it first came out,

561
00:24:24.532 --> 00:24:27.569
and I said, "Okay, this
guy's got it goin' on."

562
00:24:28.881 --> 00:24:30.365
- Ladies and gentlemen,

563
00:24:30.399 --> 00:24:32.712
please welcome the author
of this book right here,

564
00:24:32.747 --> 00:24:35.543
"Trump: The Art of the
Deal", Donald J. Trump.

565
00:24:35.577 --> 00:24:37.959
[audience applauding]

566
00:24:37.993 --> 00:24:39.201
At the beginning of the show,

567
00:24:39.236 --> 00:24:40.548
I said you either love
him or you hate him.

568
00:24:40.582 --> 00:24:42.411
Now, do you find
that that's true

569
00:24:42.446 --> 00:24:44.724
or does everybody love you
or does everybody hate you?

570
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:46.208
- No, most people love me

571
00:24:46.243 --> 00:24:48.625
and a few really have great
distaste for me, David.

572
00:24:48.659 --> 00:24:51.041
- And why is it that
those people, that few,

573
00:24:51.075 --> 00:24:52.387
would not care for you?

574
00:24:52.421 --> 00:24:53.353
Because you're so successful?
- I can't imagine.

575
00:24:53.388 --> 00:24:54.803
No, no, I don't think so.

576
00:24:54.838 --> 00:24:57.012
It's just I sort of speak
my mind a little bit,

577
00:24:57.047 --> 00:24:58.393
a little bit like
you in that respect.

578
00:24:58.427 --> 00:24:59.739
- Yeah.
- A little bit like you.

579
00:24:59.774 --> 00:25:00.706
- A little bit like me.

580
00:25:00.740 --> 00:25:01.638
- Not too much, hopefully.

581
00:25:01.672 --> 00:25:02.880
- What were you like as a kid?

582
00:25:02.915 --> 00:25:04.399
- Very normal in
a lot of respects,

583
00:25:04.433 --> 00:25:06.746
but a very solid child.

584
00:25:06.781 --> 00:25:08.507
- [John] He grew up in Queens.

585
00:25:08.541 --> 00:25:12.234
His father was making good
money as he was being raised.

586
00:25:12.269 --> 00:25:15.755
He built a lot of lower
middle-income housing

587
00:25:15.790 --> 00:25:17.723
on the border of
Brooklyn and Queens.

588
00:25:19.414 --> 00:25:22.037
- Fred Trump was a
successful businessman,

589
00:25:22.072 --> 00:25:25.524
he made a lot of money and
he was smart at what he did.

590
00:25:26.973 --> 00:25:31.219
However, Fred Trump was
a dishonest, crooked guy,

591
00:25:31.253 --> 00:25:34.291
who stole from the
federal government,

592
00:25:34.325 --> 00:25:35.948
who wouldn't allow black people

593
00:25:35.982 --> 00:25:38.606
to move into his apartments.

594
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.953
His father said, "You've
got to be a killer.

595
00:25:40.987 --> 00:25:44.059
"You've gotta be king,
you've gotta be tough,"

596
00:25:44.094 --> 00:25:46.441
and he took that in.

597
00:25:46.475 --> 00:25:48.616
- Is what you do something
you've always wanted to do?

598
00:25:48.650 --> 00:25:50.687
I know you're father
was and still is

599
00:25:50.721 --> 00:25:51.929
a real estate developer.

600
00:25:51.964 --> 00:25:53.137
- My father was in
real estate business

601
00:25:53.172 --> 00:25:56.106
and I've been in that
and other businesses

602
00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:57.314
and different things.

603
00:25:58.246 --> 00:25:59.109
I like what I'm doing.

604
00:25:59.143 --> 00:26:00.213
I just enjoy what I'm doing.

605
00:26:00.248 --> 00:26:01.801
I love the real estate business.

606
00:26:01.836 --> 00:26:04.321
I learned a lot from my father,
more than anything else,

607
00:26:04.355 --> 00:26:05.218
I learned a lot.

608
00:26:07.911 --> 00:26:10.603
- He wanted to make
a name for himself

609
00:26:10.638 --> 00:26:12.881
and he believed
early on his career

610
00:26:12.916 --> 00:26:14.573
that having a lot of publicity

611
00:26:14.607 --> 00:26:16.644
and a lot of profile
was gonna be good

612
00:26:16.678 --> 00:26:19.612
for the sales and marketing
of his apartment buildings

613
00:26:19.647 --> 00:26:21.821
and condominiums and
things that he was doing,

614
00:26:21.856 --> 00:26:25.100
but he also wanted to have
a unique celebrity persona

615
00:26:25.135 --> 00:26:28.069
and so Howard Stern
represented that for him.

616
00:26:28.103 --> 00:26:30.623
[funky music]

617
00:26:32.107 --> 00:26:33.833
- You once said that the
best way to treat a woman

618
00:26:33.868 --> 00:26:35.317
is to treat her like doody.

619
00:26:35.352 --> 00:26:36.905
- No, I never said that
- You never did?

620
00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:38.079
- But it was attributed to me.

621
00:26:38.113 --> 00:26:39.632
- So you never did say that?

622
00:26:39.667 --> 00:26:41.634
- No, I never said that but
it was attributed to me.

623
00:26:41.669 --> 00:26:44.188
- [Howard] I see, so, you
treat women with respect?

624
00:26:44.223 --> 00:26:45.120
- I can't say that either.

625
00:26:45.155 --> 00:26:46.363
- All right, good, all right.

626
00:26:46.397 --> 00:26:47.191
Somewhere in between.

627
00:26:47.226 --> 00:26:48.434
- [Donald] I do.

628
00:26:48.468 --> 00:26:49.608
I treat women with
great respect.

629
00:26:49.642 --> 00:26:51.161
- Treat women somewhere
in between respect

630
00:26:51.195 --> 00:26:52.438
and doo-doo.

631
00:26:52.472 --> 00:26:55.683
- My initial impressions
of Donald Trump,

632
00:26:55.717 --> 00:26:58.547
like everybody else,
I was starstruck.

633
00:26:58.582 --> 00:27:03.483
Back then, speaking
about women that way

634
00:27:03.518 --> 00:27:05.520
it was more the norm.

635
00:27:05.554 --> 00:27:06.694
- Where's Marla go?

636
00:27:06.728 --> 00:27:07.971
- I think we have to
put Marla right up here.

637
00:27:08.005 --> 00:27:09.041
- Come on, let's do that.

638
00:27:09.075 --> 00:27:10.801
Let's take down Frederique.

639
00:27:10.836 --> 00:27:12.803
- I went to a fundraiser

640
00:27:12.838 --> 00:27:17.808
right after Ivana
and Donald divorced

641
00:27:17.843 --> 00:27:22.848
so I was excited
that he was there.

642
00:27:23.711 --> 00:27:25.851
I went up to him and I said,

643
00:27:25.885 --> 00:27:30.303
"Hello, I'm a huge
Howard Stern fan

644
00:27:30.338 --> 00:27:33.686
"and I wanted to
introduce myself."

645
00:27:33.721 --> 00:27:38.346
And he said, "Why
would I speak to you

646
00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:40.693
"when there's so many
beautiful women here?

647
00:27:40.728 --> 00:27:42.868
"I wouldn't even let
you suck my dick."

648
00:27:43.731 --> 00:27:45.387
[gaping music]

649
00:27:45.422 --> 00:27:46.837
- One of the problems here

650
00:27:46.872 --> 00:27:50.254
is that Donald Trump
doesn't have empathy

651
00:27:50.289 --> 00:27:51.704
and that's not a
modest statement,

652
00:27:51.739 --> 00:27:54.051
he literally has no empathy.

653
00:27:54.086 --> 00:27:58.573
He does not feel
emotions like care and--

654
00:27:59.747 --> 00:28:01.162
- [News Anchor]
He's a sociopath?

655
00:28:01.196 --> 00:28:04.165
- Well, as I've said since
2016 in The New Yorker

656
00:28:04.199 --> 00:28:05.822
when he started to
run for president,

657
00:28:05.856 --> 00:28:07.858
yes, he is a sociopath.

658
00:28:07.893 --> 00:28:09.342
There is no question.

659
00:28:09.377 --> 00:28:11.897
He's a sociopath meaning
he neither has a conscience

660
00:28:11.931 --> 00:28:13.174
nor does he have a heart.

661
00:28:13.208 --> 00:28:14.727
- You make it sound
like "Blade Runner"

662
00:28:14.762 --> 00:28:18.213
when the replicant knows
you've found him out

663
00:28:18.248 --> 00:28:19.628
and he doesn't feel
anything anyway.

664
00:28:19.663 --> 00:28:21.320
- He doesn't feel anything.

665
00:28:22.252 --> 00:28:23.460
[gun firing]

666
00:28:23.494 --> 00:28:25.565
- Empathy is a
normal human trait,

667
00:28:25.600 --> 00:28:28.914
it's actually normal
in all mammals.

668
00:28:28.948 --> 00:28:32.434
It starts in childhood
with a parent and a child

669
00:28:32.469 --> 00:28:34.782
and it continues
throughout society,

670
00:28:34.816 --> 00:28:36.300
it's what glues people together

671
00:28:36.335 --> 00:28:39.131
instead of just fighting
against each other.

672
00:28:39.165 --> 00:28:43.756
Almost everybody has
empathy, but not everybody.

673
00:28:43.791 --> 00:28:45.482
People who don't have empathy

674
00:28:45.516 --> 00:28:49.072
are the people that we call
sociopaths or psychopaths.

675
00:28:50.452 --> 00:28:53.490
- That sounds like a very
destructive business philosophy.

676
00:28:53.524 --> 00:28:55.561
- They often were
treated cruelly.

677
00:28:55.595 --> 00:28:58.150
They were treated without
empathy themselves.

678
00:28:58.184 --> 00:29:00.946
- You talk in your book
about getting even,

679
00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:02.671
the importance of getting even.

680
00:29:02.706 --> 00:29:04.501
Is revenge sweet?

681
00:29:04.535 --> 00:29:06.503
- I believe strongly
in getting even.

682
00:29:06.537 --> 00:29:07.987
If somebody has hurt you,

683
00:29:08.022 --> 00:29:09.817
if somebody has gone out
of their way to hurt you,

684
00:29:09.851 --> 00:29:11.750
I think that if you
have the opportunity

685
00:29:11.784 --> 00:29:13.406
you should certainly
go out of your way

686
00:29:13.441 --> 00:29:14.925
to do a number on them

687
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:17.790
and I've had more criticism
about that one statement

688
00:29:17.825 --> 00:29:19.758
in my book than any
other statement,

689
00:29:19.792 --> 00:29:22.243
the clergy has
called, the ministers,

690
00:29:22.277 --> 00:29:24.003
the priests, the rabbis,

691
00:29:24.038 --> 00:29:26.247
they've all said, "What
a terrible thing to say,

692
00:29:26.281 --> 00:29:27.696
"that's against our teachings."

693
00:29:27.731 --> 00:29:29.802
I just believe it, I believe
in an eye for an eye.

694
00:29:29.837 --> 00:29:32.253
- If you don't have
normal empathy,

695
00:29:32.287 --> 00:29:36.188
you're going to mistreat people
because they don't matter,

696
00:29:36.222 --> 00:29:38.086
there's an abscense of loyalty.

697
00:29:38.121 --> 00:29:40.709
The absence of loyalty is a sign

698
00:29:40.744 --> 00:29:42.781
of anti-social
personality disorder.

699
00:29:44.230 --> 00:29:47.440
Loyalty at its best means
I care about this person,

700
00:29:47.475 --> 00:29:48.476
I value this person,

701
00:29:48.510 --> 00:29:50.512
so I will stick by this person.

702
00:29:50.547 --> 00:29:52.652
If you have a person
without empathy,

703
00:29:52.687 --> 00:29:55.034
what you find is that
loyalty disappears

704
00:29:55.069 --> 00:29:58.279
as soon as the other
person crosses them.

705
00:29:58.313 --> 00:30:01.385
As soon as somebody says,
"I'm not with you anymore,"

706
00:30:01.420 --> 00:30:03.180
or, "I disagree,"

707
00:30:03.215 --> 00:30:06.218
it flips from you are
the greatest person

708
00:30:06.252 --> 00:30:09.324
to you are a horrible person,
you are a worthless person,

709
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.258
and I will attack you,
I will destroy you.

710
00:30:13.708 --> 00:30:14.847
- Some of the people that
were most loyal to me

711
00:30:14.882 --> 00:30:16.573
are people that I
didn't think would be,

712
00:30:16.607 --> 00:30:18.333
some of the people that
were least loyal to me

713
00:30:18.368 --> 00:30:19.541
are people that are--
- You gotta.

714
00:30:19.576 --> 00:30:21.026
- I think I would've
treated 'em differently,

715
00:30:21.060 --> 00:30:22.510
I think I would've treated
different groups differently,

716
00:30:22.544 --> 00:30:25.858
I would've wiped the floor
with the guys weren't loyal,

717
00:30:25.893 --> 00:30:27.756
which I will now
do which is great.

718
00:30:27.791 --> 00:30:29.517
You know I love getting
even with people but,

719
00:30:29.551 --> 00:30:31.243
- You're gonna get
even with some people

720
00:30:31.277 --> 00:30:33.176
because they--
- Yeah,

721
00:30:33.210 --> 00:30:34.694
if given the opportunity,

722
00:30:34.729 --> 00:30:36.696
I will get even with some
people that were disloyal to me.

723
00:30:36.731 --> 00:30:38.871
- Here comes one of the
things they say about you

724
00:30:38.906 --> 00:30:42.530
is that there ticks within
you a vindictiveness.

725
00:30:42.564 --> 00:30:44.187
- The people who
climb to the top

726
00:30:44.221 --> 00:30:46.189
by squashing other people,

727
00:30:46.223 --> 00:30:49.192
those are what we call
a successful sociopath.

728
00:30:49.226 --> 00:30:53.403
Sociopaths can be successful
because they are conmen.

729
00:30:53.437 --> 00:30:54.922
If you're a conman,

730
00:30:54.956 --> 00:30:57.269
you're convincing them that
you are much better, greater,

731
00:30:57.303 --> 00:31:00.030
more caring, more
honest than you are.

732
00:31:02.032 --> 00:31:04.276
- My name's Rick Reilly,
I'm a golf writer,

733
00:31:04.310 --> 00:31:07.900
and I've known Trump
for 35 years maybe.

734
00:31:07.935 --> 00:31:10.558
[upbeat music]

735
00:31:12.940 --> 00:31:15.908
Trump is among our best
golfing presidents.

736
00:31:15.943 --> 00:31:17.220
- [Crowd Member] Oh, nice.

737
00:31:17.254 --> 00:31:19.567
- For a 72-year-old guy,
Trump is a good golfer.

738
00:31:19.601 --> 00:31:23.364
He's got a really good,
powerful move through the ball

739
00:31:23.398 --> 00:31:27.299
and he hits it a long way
and his putting is good,

740
00:31:27.333 --> 00:31:30.267
he's a very wristy sort
of old-school putter.

741
00:31:30.302 --> 00:31:33.477
Cheating in golf at
all is completely wrong

742
00:31:33.512 --> 00:31:35.617
because it's the easiest
sport to cheat at.

743
00:31:35.652 --> 00:31:37.792
There's no refs,
there's no umps.

744
00:31:37.826 --> 00:31:40.208
You could cheat every
shot if you wanted

745
00:31:40.243 --> 00:31:43.142
but it reveals your
character that you don't,

746
00:31:43.177 --> 00:31:45.489
or it reveals your
character that you do

747
00:31:45.524 --> 00:31:46.939
and he cheats all the time.

748
00:31:46.974 --> 00:31:48.492
- I actually played
golf with him

749
00:31:48.527 --> 00:31:51.254
with Anthony Anderson one day.

750
00:31:51.288 --> 00:31:52.496
- [Seth] Gotcha.

751
00:31:52.531 --> 00:31:53.773
- And we were all
playing together

752
00:31:53.808 --> 00:31:55.327
and we clearly saw him
hit a ball, hook a ball,

753
00:31:55.361 --> 00:31:58.054
into a lake at Trump
National in Jersey

754
00:31:58.088 --> 00:32:00.953
and his caddy told
him he found it.

755
00:32:00.988 --> 00:32:03.611
[Seth laughs]

756
00:32:03.645 --> 00:32:07.097
- People don't know this but
he jerry rigs his golf carts

757
00:32:07.132 --> 00:32:08.409
to go really fast.

758
00:32:08.443 --> 00:32:09.686
He has somebody do that.

759
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.240
Only one golf cart at
every course he owns

760
00:32:12.275 --> 00:32:14.622
goes about 30 miles an
hour and that's his,

761
00:32:14.656 --> 00:32:15.968
it's number one,

762
00:32:16.003 --> 00:32:18.660
everyone else goes about
15 to 18 miles per hour.

763
00:32:18.695 --> 00:32:21.180
So he can hit the
ball, zip he's out,

764
00:32:21.215 --> 00:32:22.699
and you're still,
"Hey, where's Trump?"

765
00:32:22.733 --> 00:32:23.942
You hit, you hit.

766
00:32:23.976 --> 00:32:26.013
By then he can kick the
ball, move the ball,

767
00:32:26.047 --> 00:32:27.980
take it out of lakes, whatever.

768
00:32:28.015 --> 00:32:29.533
There's your ball.

769
00:32:29.568 --> 00:32:31.984
Usually, you would put a mark
down and pick up the ball.

770
00:32:32.019 --> 00:32:35.160
What he does, he
secretly puts the marker

771
00:32:35.194 --> 00:32:37.024
on the end of the putter

772
00:32:37.058 --> 00:32:38.784
and then he looks
like he's marking it

773
00:32:38.818 --> 00:32:41.442
but really now the mark
is three feet closer,

774
00:32:41.476 --> 00:32:43.168
that's a way easier putt.

775
00:32:43.202 --> 00:32:45.722
He tried to cheat Tiger Woods
in a round of golf once,

776
00:32:45.756 --> 00:32:47.620
Tiger freaking Woods.

777
00:32:47.655 --> 00:32:49.001
He's off to the right.

778
00:32:49.036 --> 00:32:50.969
He's playing
against Tiger Woods.

779
00:32:51.003 --> 00:32:52.901
They each have a partner.

780
00:32:52.936 --> 00:32:57.630
He chokes one flat
into the water, splash.

781
00:32:57.665 --> 00:32:58.804
He says to his partner,

782
00:32:58.838 --> 00:33:00.185
"Throw me another
one, they didn't see."

783
00:33:00.219 --> 00:33:02.221
I'm like, "That's Tiger Woods."

784
00:33:02.256 --> 00:33:03.636
- Tiger, we are inspired

785
00:33:03.671 --> 00:33:07.019
by everything you have
become and attained.

786
00:33:07.054 --> 00:33:09.332
The job you've
done is incredible.

787
00:33:09.366 --> 00:33:12.024
- He's telling people he's
won club championships

788
00:33:12.059 --> 00:33:14.130
that he didn't even play in.

789
00:33:14.164 --> 00:33:15.476
He won a club championship

790
00:33:15.510 --> 00:33:18.513
that's being played in
Bedminster, New Jersey,

791
00:33:18.548 --> 00:33:20.377
when he was playing
in Philadelphia

792
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.001
and he called in and said,

793
00:33:23.035 --> 00:33:25.348
"Hey, what won the club
championship today?"

794
00:33:25.382 --> 00:33:29.524
And the guy goes, "Ah,
75, Joe Shmoe won it."

795
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:33.080
"Oh, I shot 73 today,
make me the champion."

796
00:33:33.114 --> 00:33:35.358
And the pro's like, "Ha, what?"

797
00:33:35.392 --> 00:33:37.532
"Yeah, make me the champion.

798
00:33:37.567 --> 00:33:39.534
"I played better here today."

799
00:33:39.569 --> 00:33:42.020
So, Joe Shmoe's name
comes off the wall,

800
00:33:42.054 --> 00:33:44.056
maybe one of the great
moments of his life

801
00:33:44.091 --> 00:33:46.058
and Trump's name goes up

802
00:33:46.093 --> 00:33:48.267
and this has happened
over and over again.

803
00:33:48.302 --> 00:33:51.960
And then he won at
least six or seven times

804
00:33:51.995 --> 00:33:53.686
tournaments where
he was the only guy

805
00:33:53.721 --> 00:33:55.205
playing in the tournament.

806
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.069
He'll buy a new golf course,

807
00:33:57.104 --> 00:33:59.416
play the first round
by himself and Melania,

808
00:33:59.451 --> 00:34:02.247
and unless Melania gets hot,
he's gonna be the winner

809
00:34:02.281 --> 00:34:04.180
and so if you go to
any of his courses

810
00:34:04.214 --> 00:34:06.734
his first few
years it's just him

811
00:34:06.768 --> 00:34:08.115
because no one else played.

812
00:34:09.461 --> 00:34:12.119
As a writer, I
love Donald Trump.

813
00:34:13.292 --> 00:34:16.123
I loved him 'cause he
would say anything.

814
00:34:16.157 --> 00:34:17.779
He was like, "Yeah, I
banged Marilyn Monroe

815
00:34:17.814 --> 00:34:19.264
"and I punched out Sinatra."

816
00:34:19.298 --> 00:34:21.128
And we're like, "Yeah,
what else you got?"

817
00:34:21.162 --> 00:34:22.715
Because he'd say anything.

818
00:34:22.750 --> 00:34:25.649
But as an American, I
don't like him at all.

819
00:34:25.684 --> 00:34:27.099
He terrifies me.

820
00:34:27.134 --> 00:34:28.549
If he's gonna cheat at golf,

821
00:34:28.583 --> 00:34:30.482
you don't think he's
gonna cheat on his taxes?

822
00:34:30.516 --> 00:34:32.070
You don't think he's
gonna cheat on his wives?

823
00:34:32.104 --> 00:34:33.795
You don't think he's gonna
cheat to win an election?

824
00:34:33.830 --> 00:34:36.108
You don't think he's gonna
cheat to stop an investigation?

825
00:34:36.143 --> 00:34:38.421
You don't think he's gonna
cheat to break rules,

826
00:34:38.455 --> 00:34:40.492
to get information
from foreign countries?

827
00:34:40.526 --> 00:34:42.494
My God, he just
admitted he does it.

828
00:34:47.015 --> 00:34:48.155
- I'm Bill Kristol.

829
00:34:48.189 --> 00:34:49.570
I came to Washington
over 30 years ago

830
00:34:49.604 --> 00:34:50.985
to work in the Reagan
Administration.

831
00:34:51.019 --> 00:34:52.504
I was Chief of Staff
to the Vice President

832
00:34:52.538 --> 00:34:54.471
in the George H.W.
Bush White House

833
00:34:54.506 --> 00:34:56.024
so I worked in government,

834
00:34:56.059 --> 00:34:57.750
worked in some
Republican politics,

835
00:34:57.785 --> 00:35:00.926
edited The Weekly Standard
for a little over two decades.

836
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:02.410
- I'm Richard Painter.

837
00:35:02.445 --> 00:35:05.241
I'm a law professor at the
University of Minnesota.

838
00:35:05.275 --> 00:35:07.001
I was the Chief White
House Ethics Lawyer

839
00:35:07.035 --> 00:35:08.796
for President George W. Bush.

840
00:35:10.211 --> 00:35:13.387
Most of my life I was
in the Republican party.

841
00:35:15.389 --> 00:35:18.046
- I'm Malcom Nance, a former
U.S. Intelligence officer.

842
00:35:18.081 --> 00:35:20.808
Started out actually
in cryptology

843
00:35:20.842 --> 00:35:22.189
and sort of an expert

844
00:35:22.223 --> 00:35:25.261
in all things related to
foreign intelligence operations,

845
00:35:25.295 --> 00:35:29.196
counterterrorism, and now
Russian intelligence activities

846
00:35:29.230 --> 00:35:30.335
in the United States.

847
00:35:32.578 --> 00:35:33.683
- What a great looking group.

848
00:35:33.717 --> 00:35:37.204
We're taking some pictures?

849
00:35:37.238 --> 00:35:40.172
- We can just move right along.

850
00:35:40.207 --> 00:35:43.175
- The traits that are
important in a leader vary

851
00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:45.798
but there are some
absolute constants

852
00:35:45.833 --> 00:35:48.698
and the way to look
at them is the titles

853
00:35:48.732 --> 00:35:53.737
and the core values that we
see for each armed service,

854
00:35:55.049 --> 00:35:58.086
honor, courage,
commitment, country, duty,

855
00:35:58.121 --> 00:36:01.193
service above self,
excellence in all that we do,

856
00:36:01.228 --> 00:36:03.920
always faithful,
always prepared.

857
00:36:03.954 --> 00:36:06.233
These are some of
the core values

858
00:36:06.267 --> 00:36:09.650
that we entrust in our
national military leaders

859
00:36:09.684 --> 00:36:11.686
and those should be
the same core values

860
00:36:11.721 --> 00:36:14.344
that we should have in
our political leaders.

861
00:36:14.379 --> 00:36:15.759
- To be a good leader,

862
00:36:15.794 --> 00:36:17.934
a person has to first
of all recognize

863
00:36:17.968 --> 00:36:22.214
that other people have
rights and individualities

864
00:36:22.249 --> 00:36:24.251
that you need to
take into account.

865
00:36:24.285 --> 00:36:27.599
You appreciate who they are
and what's important to them.

866
00:36:27.633 --> 00:36:29.670
The problem arises in leadership

867
00:36:29.704 --> 00:36:32.397
when you have a person
who does not appreciate

868
00:36:32.431 --> 00:36:35.710
that others are there
as independent folks

869
00:36:35.745 --> 00:36:37.298
but who are there to serve you.

870
00:36:38.472 --> 00:36:41.199
- We expect leaders to
bring people together,

871
00:36:41.233 --> 00:36:45.375
to try to unify the
country as best they can.

872
00:36:45.410 --> 00:36:47.205
The number of attacks
that this president

873
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:51.036
is making on Twitter
are astronomical,

874
00:36:51.070 --> 00:36:54.039
and then the attacks on
the media on top of that.

875
00:36:54.073 --> 00:36:56.628
- I've never really liked
the Trump is an idiot,

876
00:36:56.662 --> 00:37:00.942
Trump is a buffoon aspect
of the anti-Trump rhetoric.

877
00:37:00.977 --> 00:37:03.462
I think it does diminish
more than it should

878
00:37:03.497 --> 00:37:05.775
some of the real
dangers he poses.

879
00:37:07.673 --> 00:37:10.124
- [Interviewer] Do you think
Donald Trump is fit to serve

880
00:37:10.158 --> 00:37:11.608
as Commander in Chief?

881
00:37:11.643 --> 00:37:13.265
- No, he's not fit to serve,

882
00:37:13.300 --> 00:37:15.716
I think either by
character or judgment,

883
00:37:15.750 --> 00:37:17.476
I don't agree with his policies,

884
00:37:17.511 --> 00:37:18.926
I don't think he
has much experience,

885
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:20.721
he doesn't know how
government works

886
00:37:20.755 --> 00:37:24.483
but that can all be
tolerated or survived

887
00:37:24.518 --> 00:37:28.729
but in terms of his just
basic character and judgment,

888
00:37:28.763 --> 00:37:30.972
his basic sense of
putting the country first,

889
00:37:31.007 --> 00:37:33.009
at least in key moments,

890
00:37:33.043 --> 00:37:36.150
every politician has moments
where he cuts corners

891
00:37:36.184 --> 00:37:38.497
and watches out for
himself or herself

892
00:37:40.016 --> 00:37:41.293
but Trump is the opposite.

893
00:37:42.501 --> 00:37:43.985
I think it's a miracle
when he actually seems

894
00:37:44.020 --> 00:37:46.333
not to simply put his own
narrow interests first,

895
00:37:46.367 --> 00:37:49.163
and the recklessness,
and the demagoguery,

896
00:37:49.197 --> 00:37:54.202
so undercuts democratic norms
and constitutional processes

897
00:37:55.342 --> 00:37:56.343
that it's dangerous
to the country.

898
00:37:58.345 --> 00:37:59.656
- Why do they hate his guts?

899
00:37:59.691 --> 00:38:01.140
They hate his guts

900
00:38:01.175 --> 00:38:04.005
because he represents a
threat to their status quo.

901
00:38:04.040 --> 00:38:05.593
It's a very weird salad

902
00:38:05.628 --> 00:38:07.354
because it doesn't
fit in the box

903
00:38:07.388 --> 00:38:10.460
of the traditional
Republican establishment

904
00:38:10.495 --> 00:38:12.497
or the Democratic Party.

905
00:38:12.531 --> 00:38:14.533
I mean, he is a reflection

906
00:38:14.568 --> 00:38:17.122
of our politically
correct society.

907
00:38:17.156 --> 00:38:19.193
If I'm not allowed to
say what I'm thinking

908
00:38:19.227 --> 00:38:21.160
and everyone's got
me in a tight box,

909
00:38:21.195 --> 00:38:24.543
when I go into the voting
booth I'm gonna vote for him.

910
00:38:24.578 --> 00:38:27.650
The more politically
correct the society is,

911
00:38:27.684 --> 00:38:29.721
the greater the
reaction formation is

912
00:38:29.755 --> 00:38:31.723
of the orange man comes to town.

913
00:38:38.523 --> 00:38:40.939
- Why I support
Trump is pretty easy.

914
00:38:42.423 --> 00:38:46.565
He is the only president in
the last probably 40 years

915
00:38:46.600 --> 00:38:49.430
that has been for the people.

916
00:38:54.228 --> 00:38:57.404
- I had an epiphany at
my first Trump rally.

917
00:38:57.438 --> 00:39:00.890
I tell people that it was
a reconnection to my life

918
00:39:00.924 --> 00:39:04.238
because I grew up in a
blue-collar situation

919
00:39:04.272 --> 00:39:06.758
and I hustled my
way to some dough,

920
00:39:06.792 --> 00:39:08.829
went to Tufts and
Harvard Law School,

921
00:39:08.863 --> 00:39:10.175
I worked at Goldman,

922
00:39:10.209 --> 00:39:12.384
built two successful
hedge fund businesses,

923
00:39:12.419 --> 00:39:14.766
started to become
independently wealthy

924
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.112
and then what ends up happening

925
00:39:16.146 --> 00:39:18.286
is you pick up the
collective biases

926
00:39:18.321 --> 00:39:19.771
of the people around you

927
00:39:19.805 --> 00:39:22.014
and so you don't really have
a good ear to the ground.

928
00:39:22.049 --> 00:39:24.431
And so when I got to
the first Trump rally,

929
00:39:24.465 --> 00:39:26.743
I crossed the
security perimeter,

930
00:39:26.778 --> 00:39:28.296
went in and started
talking to people,

931
00:39:28.331 --> 00:39:29.712
and I was like, "Oh, my God,

932
00:39:31.092 --> 00:39:33.025
"Mr. Trump is talking to
the people I grew up with."

933
00:39:33.060 --> 00:39:35.752
And these are people that
economically desperate.

934
00:39:35.787 --> 00:39:39.860
We went from a
economically middle class,

935
00:39:39.894 --> 00:39:41.033
and lower middle class,

936
00:39:41.068 --> 00:39:44.036
working class
aspirational society

937
00:39:44.071 --> 00:39:47.868
to a desperational
society in 35 years

938
00:39:47.902 --> 00:39:49.594
and I can explain what happened

939
00:39:49.628 --> 00:39:52.286
through the forces of
trade and globalism

940
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.289
and our mistakes about
repositioning manufacturing

941
00:39:55.323 --> 00:39:56.808
away from the United States,

942
00:39:56.842 --> 00:39:58.085
all of those things that we did,

943
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.088
some of it accidental,
some of it intentional,

944
00:40:01.122 --> 00:40:03.124
left a very large
group of people

945
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:05.092
feeling very, very desperate

946
00:40:05.126 --> 00:40:08.475
about their economic
aspirations and their wellbeing

947
00:40:08.509 --> 00:40:11.443
and so that first
Trump rally I was like,

948
00:40:11.478 --> 00:40:13.341
"Whoa, there's a lot
of people out here

949
00:40:13.376 --> 00:40:15.758
"that are in a lot of
pain and I missed it."

950
00:40:16.621 --> 00:40:18.795
They have economic anxiety

951
00:40:18.830 --> 00:40:22.281
and they are going to vote
to reject the status quo,

952
00:40:23.144 --> 00:40:24.491
it's an anger-based vote

953
00:40:24.525 --> 00:40:28.943
and you have to work on
policy solutions to fix that,

954
00:40:28.978 --> 00:40:29.979
you have to heal that

955
00:40:30.013 --> 00:40:32.257
because when you create a breach

956
00:40:32.291 --> 00:40:34.639
in the social fabric
of the society,

957
00:40:34.673 --> 00:40:36.917
you create a systemic
rise of populism

958
00:40:36.951 --> 00:40:38.470
and you get all of
these unintended,

959
00:40:38.505 --> 00:40:41.162
or unexpected
political outcomes.

960
00:40:41.197 --> 00:40:43.648
I didn't see it myself,
but Trump saw it

961
00:40:43.682 --> 00:40:46.616
and so that's something you
have to give him credit for.

962
00:40:46.651 --> 00:40:48.825
Here is a billionaire
so you'd have to say

963
00:40:48.860 --> 00:40:50.827
this is a completely
out of touch dude

964
00:40:50.862 --> 00:40:52.450
but he saw it, I did not see it

965
00:40:52.484 --> 00:40:54.003
and I grew up with it.

966
00:40:54.037 --> 00:40:57.144
[gentle piano music]

967
00:40:57.178 --> 00:40:59.491
So, take a step back.

968
00:40:59.526 --> 00:41:02.494
We racked up $18
trillion of debt,

969
00:41:02.529 --> 00:41:04.634
we killed a million
people in the Middle East,

970
00:41:04.669 --> 00:41:07.844
we wounded 70,000
servicemen and women,

971
00:41:07.879 --> 00:41:10.157
7,000 servicemen
and women have died

972
00:41:10.191 --> 00:41:13.367
and 22 are dying a day
in the United States

973
00:41:13.401 --> 00:41:16.508
from suicide related to
posttraumatic stress.

974
00:41:16.543 --> 00:41:20.512
Our educational system K-12 is
completely uneven and broken,

975
00:41:20.547 --> 00:41:23.653
our infrastructure
completely failed and broken,

976
00:41:23.688 --> 00:41:26.000
we have no industrial policy,

977
00:41:26.035 --> 00:41:27.657
there's nobody in
the United States

978
00:41:27.692 --> 00:41:30.142
as a public servant
that has a 10-year plan,

979
00:41:30.177 --> 00:41:31.903
they don't even have
a five-year plan.

980
00:41:31.937 --> 00:41:35.631
So the American population
is looking at the situation

981
00:41:35.665 --> 00:41:37.909
and saying, "Wait a minute,
this is not working for me."

982
00:41:37.943 --> 00:41:39.566
The stock market crashes

983
00:41:39.600 --> 00:41:42.223
and the very big bank is
about to go out of business,

984
00:41:42.258 --> 00:41:45.157
the government sends them
$1 trillion to protect them

985
00:41:45.192 --> 00:41:46.745
what about me?

986
00:41:46.780 --> 00:41:49.921
And so people feel that
the system is rigged

987
00:41:49.955 --> 00:41:52.130
and the system is
unfair towards them.

988
00:41:53.476 --> 00:41:56.928
You call these people
deplorable, white ethnocentrics,

989
00:41:56.962 --> 00:41:58.826
white nationalists,

990
00:41:58.861 --> 00:42:02.934
whatever those knuckle
dragging misnomers,

991
00:42:02.968 --> 00:42:06.731
those adjectives of
attack on these people,

992
00:42:06.765 --> 00:42:07.801
they tune you out.

993
00:42:09.147 --> 00:42:10.700
You'd be better served

994
00:42:10.735 --> 00:42:13.600
going into those areas of the
country and listening to them

995
00:42:13.634 --> 00:42:14.601
and say, "Hey, you know what?

996
00:42:14.635 --> 00:42:15.740
"I don't think you're a racist

997
00:42:15.774 --> 00:42:18.363
"or you're a white trash person,

998
00:42:18.397 --> 00:42:19.882
"I think you're a person

999
00:42:19.916 --> 00:42:21.435
"that really just wants your
family to have a better life

1000
00:42:21.469 --> 00:42:22.574
"and as a public servant,

1001
00:42:22.609 --> 00:42:24.369
"I'm gonna try to
come up with policies

1002
00:42:24.403 --> 00:42:25.543
"that help you do that."

1003
00:42:26.613 --> 00:42:28.028
David Axelrod said to me,

1004
00:42:28.062 --> 00:42:29.926
"Remember, Anthony, people
will vote for somebody

1005
00:42:29.961 --> 00:42:31.445
"they won't like.

1006
00:42:31.479 --> 00:42:33.447
"They gave Richard Nixon a
landslide, nobody liked him,

1007
00:42:33.481 --> 00:42:35.035
"they gave him a landslide.

1008
00:42:35.069 --> 00:42:36.554
"What they don't like doing

1009
00:42:36.588 --> 00:42:39.073
"is they don't like voting
for people that dislike them."

1010
00:42:39.108 --> 00:42:40.592
See the difference?

1011
00:42:40.627 --> 00:42:42.594
So you're standing at a podium
calling people deplorable,

1012
00:42:42.629 --> 00:42:45.045
they're like, "Okay, give
my vote to the orange man.

1013
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:46.287
"Let's see how he does."

1014
00:42:49.256 --> 00:42:50.706
[crowd cheering]

1015
00:42:50.740 --> 00:42:53.294
- I think Trump speaks to people
in a really very good way.

1016
00:42:54.641 --> 00:42:58.230
He is appealing to people
who are hurt, angry,

1017
00:42:58.265 --> 00:43:01.164
they feel bypassed, ignored,

1018
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.304
and not taken seriously.

1019
00:43:04.478 --> 00:43:07.067
The problem is that
he doesn't speak

1020
00:43:07.101 --> 00:43:09.794
to the humanity of the people
who don't agree with him.

1021
00:43:11.934 --> 00:43:15.109
- They're bringing drugs,
they're bringing crime,

1022
00:43:15.144 --> 00:43:16.628
they're rapists.

1023
00:43:16.663 --> 00:43:18.941
We're building that wall
and it's going up very big.

1024
00:43:18.975 --> 00:43:21.806
[crowd cheering]

1025
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.808
- If you have any racism in you,

1026
00:43:23.842 --> 00:43:25.188
Trump's gonna let
you bring it out.

1027
00:43:25.223 --> 00:43:26.845
I get to be a jerk again.

1028
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.986
I get to be 1956 America again.

1029
00:43:30.021 --> 00:43:34.094
- It's not a racist, this guy
treats everybody like shit.

1030
00:43:34.128 --> 00:43:35.854
He's not a racist, okay?

1031
00:43:35.889 --> 00:43:37.753
It doesn't matter if
you're black, white,

1032
00:43:37.787 --> 00:43:41.308
lesbian, transgender, he
treats everybody the same.

1033
00:43:41.342 --> 00:43:44.967
He went to Elton John's
wedding, he's an asshole,

1034
00:43:45.001 --> 00:43:47.314
that's different
from being a racist.

1035
00:43:47.348 --> 00:43:48.695
He's obviously an asshole.

1036
00:43:50.213 --> 00:43:53.320
- It's so sad that so many
people have let their worst side

1037
00:43:53.354 --> 00:43:55.011
come out through Trump.

1038
00:43:55.046 --> 00:43:56.979
- Get the fuck out of here!

1039
00:43:57.013 --> 00:43:58.774
Our country, motherfucker!

1040
00:43:58.808 --> 00:44:00.568
Our country!

1041
00:44:00.603 --> 00:44:03.675
Go fucking cook
my burrito, bitch!

1042
00:44:03.710 --> 00:44:05.194
Trump!

1043
00:44:05.228 --> 00:44:06.402
I love Trump!

1044
00:44:06.436 --> 00:44:07.299
Fuck you!

1045
00:44:07.334 --> 00:44:08.680
- Are you racist?

1046
00:44:08.715 --> 00:44:12.580
- I am the least racist
person that you have ever met.

1047
00:44:12.615 --> 00:44:15.031
I look at my African
American over here.

1048
00:44:15.066 --> 00:44:16.377
Look at him.

1049
00:44:16.412 --> 00:44:17.551
Are you the greatest?

1050
00:44:17.585 --> 00:44:19.691
You know what I'm talking about?

1051
00:44:19.726 --> 00:44:22.314
I have a great relationship
with the blacks.

1052
00:44:22.349 --> 00:44:24.558
I've always had a great
relationship with the blacks.

1053
00:44:24.592 --> 00:44:25.801
I love the old days.

1054
00:44:25.835 --> 00:44:27.388
You know what they used
to do to guys like that

1055
00:44:27.423 --> 00:44:28.873
when they're in a
place like this?

1056
00:44:28.907 --> 00:44:31.565
They'd be carried out
on a stretcher, folks.

1057
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:36.156
- I resisted for quite some time

1058
00:44:36.190 --> 00:44:38.848
the notion that he is racist.

1059
00:44:38.883 --> 00:44:42.231
It's more a function of his
narcissism than anything else,

1060
00:44:42.265 --> 00:44:44.164
it's not really racism.

1061
00:44:44.198 --> 00:44:47.754
That was sort of the
way I viewed Trump,

1062
00:44:47.788 --> 00:44:50.446
that he doesn't like them
because they oppose him

1063
00:44:51.654 --> 00:44:52.862
and that's really
what it's about,

1064
00:44:52.897 --> 00:44:54.243
it's all function
of his narcissism

1065
00:44:54.277 --> 00:44:57.246
and when he says things
that were supportive

1066
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.421
of some of those bad
people at Charlottesville,

1067
00:45:00.456 --> 00:45:02.354
that's again a function
of his narcissism

1068
00:45:02.389 --> 00:45:05.841
because the people who
were attacking those people

1069
00:45:05.875 --> 00:45:07.428
were attacking him.

1070
00:45:07.463 --> 00:45:09.534
- You had a group on
one side that was bad

1071
00:45:09.568 --> 00:45:11.087
and you had a group
on the other side

1072
00:45:11.122 --> 00:45:13.365
that was also very violent

1073
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:18.060
but you also had people
that were very fine people,

1074
00:45:18.094 --> 00:45:19.475
on both sides.

1075
00:45:19.509 --> 00:45:22.374
You had people in that
group, excuse me, excuse me,

1076
00:45:22.409 --> 00:45:24.756
I saw the same
pictures as you did.

1077
00:45:24.791 --> 00:45:27.103
- [Crowd] Russia is our friend.

1078
00:45:27.138 --> 00:45:29.485
The south will rise again.

1079
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.452
- You had people in that group

1080
00:45:31.487 --> 00:45:33.075
that were there to protest

1081
00:45:33.109 --> 00:45:35.802
the taking down of the
statue Robert E. Lee.

1082
00:45:36.941 --> 00:45:39.322
To them, a very, very
important statue.

1083
00:45:39.357 --> 00:45:41.290
- [Crowd] You will
not replace us.

1084
00:45:42.429 --> 00:45:44.258
- My mother came
from the Philippines.

1085
00:45:44.293 --> 00:45:48.746
She came to the United
States in the late 1950s

1086
00:45:48.780 --> 00:45:50.678
so I'm half Filipino
and the other half

1087
00:45:50.713 --> 00:45:53.578
is some mixture
of Irish-Scottish,

1088
00:45:53.612 --> 00:45:56.581
I'm classic American mutt.

1089
00:45:56.615 --> 00:45:58.134
I think of myself as an American

1090
00:45:58.169 --> 00:46:00.550
and I just assume
people aren't racist

1091
00:46:01.931 --> 00:46:06.453
and I tend to forget that,
well, some people are

1092
00:46:07.523 --> 00:46:09.456
and that's the
lesson with Trump is

1093
00:46:09.490 --> 00:46:11.803
I just gave him the
benefit of the doubt.

1094
00:46:11.838 --> 00:46:16.256
- These are people that
if they don't like it here

1095
00:46:16.290 --> 00:46:17.326
they can leave.

1096
00:46:18.983 --> 00:46:22.193
- But what he said about
those members of Congress,

1097
00:46:22.227 --> 00:46:24.264
it brought back that memory

1098
00:46:24.298 --> 00:46:26.473
of the one time I
really remember, wow,

1099
00:46:26.507 --> 00:46:28.475
there really are
people like that here.

1100
00:46:29.683 --> 00:46:34.308
I was with my mother
when I was a teenager

1101
00:46:34.343 --> 00:46:37.864
in a parking lot in
Massachusetts when
somebody said to her,

1102
00:46:39.141 --> 00:46:40.521
"Go back to your country."

1103
00:46:43.317 --> 00:46:45.457
Sorry, and I found that to be,

1104
00:46:45.492 --> 00:46:49.323
and it really came
home to me then.

1105
00:46:49.358 --> 00:46:52.326
This man is a
racist, he is evil.

1106
00:46:52.361 --> 00:46:55.709
- The Democrat Party
is now being led

1107
00:46:55.743 --> 00:46:58.125
by four left wing extremists

1108
00:46:58.160 --> 00:47:01.853
who reject everything
that we hold dear.

1109
00:47:01.888 --> 00:47:03.199
- [Crowd] Send her back!

1110
00:47:03.234 --> 00:47:04.580
Send her back!

1111
00:47:04.614 --> 00:47:06.030
Send her back!

1112
00:47:06.064 --> 00:47:07.583
Send her back!

1113
00:47:07.617 --> 00:47:08.446
Send her back!

1114
00:47:09.723 --> 00:47:12.381
- He's a racist
beyond any question.

1115
00:47:13.623 --> 00:47:14.832
- [Crowd] USA!

1116
00:47:14.866 --> 00:47:16.074
USA!

1117
00:47:16.109 --> 00:47:19.871
- The first time I
saw Trump at a rally

1118
00:47:19.906 --> 00:47:22.598
telling the crowd
that he loved them

1119
00:47:22.632 --> 00:47:25.083
but he also hated
everybody else,

1120
00:47:25.118 --> 00:47:26.878
when I saw him leading them

1121
00:47:26.913 --> 00:47:30.261
in a loyalty oath using
emotions in that way

1122
00:47:30.295 --> 00:47:33.781
I realized that this was
not politics as usual.

1123
00:47:40.443 --> 00:47:42.756
- Raise you right
hand, everybody.

1124
00:47:43.895 --> 00:47:45.586
Do you swear that you're going

1125
00:47:45.621 --> 00:47:47.519
to vote for Donald
Trump tomorrow?

1126
00:47:47.554 --> 00:47:49.245
Raise that hand.

1127
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.075
I love you, I love you.

1128
00:47:51.109 --> 00:47:55.907
- He had talked about being
president for many, many years

1129
00:47:55.942 --> 00:47:58.634
with his advisor of
the time, Steve Bannon,

1130
00:47:58.668 --> 00:48:02.017
who is a White Nationalist,
an unabashed racist.

1131
00:48:02.051 --> 00:48:05.089
Steve Bannon considers
himself a student of history

1132
00:48:05.123 --> 00:48:09.541
and he likes to think that he
knows the cycles of history

1133
00:48:09.576 --> 00:48:11.923
in terms of
resentment and racism

1134
00:48:11.958 --> 00:48:13.683
and in this case,
he was correct.

1135
00:48:15.237 --> 00:48:18.136
- [Narrator] This
is Italy in 1922.

1136
00:48:18.171 --> 00:48:20.311
These marching men
are charter members

1137
00:48:20.345 --> 00:48:23.555
of a new Italian political
party, the fascists,

1138
00:48:23.590 --> 00:48:26.662
founded and led by a
flamboyant ex-editor,

1139
00:48:26.696 --> 00:48:30.838
ex-army corporal,
ex-socialist, Benito Mussolini.

1140
00:48:30.873 --> 00:48:33.082
His movement numbers
a million members

1141
00:48:33.117 --> 00:48:35.429
including uniformed Black Shirts

1142
00:48:35.464 --> 00:48:38.053
and Mussolini successfully
forces his leadership

1143
00:48:38.087 --> 00:48:40.503
on the Italian king and people.

1144
00:48:40.538 --> 00:48:42.747
Despite the fact
that 80% of Italians

1145
00:48:42.781 --> 00:48:45.163
still support the
constitutional monarchy,

1146
00:48:45.198 --> 00:48:47.579
his threats of
violence and revolution

1147
00:48:47.614 --> 00:48:49.443
win him the office of Premier.

1148
00:48:51.204 --> 00:48:52.860
On his first anniversary,

1149
00:48:52.895 --> 00:48:56.588
with the aid of gunfire,
kidnapping and castor oil,

1150
00:48:56.623 --> 00:48:58.452
he is absolute dictator.

1151
00:48:59.833 --> 00:49:03.181
- At the time Mussolini came
on the political scene in 1919,

1152
00:49:04.458 --> 00:49:06.598
Italy was a limited democracy.

1153
00:49:06.633 --> 00:49:08.842
People had the vote,
women could vote,

1154
00:49:11.017 --> 00:49:13.329
and Mussolini came in
as a revolutionary,

1155
00:49:13.364 --> 00:49:16.643
as a rabble-rouser to
completely shake things up.

1156
00:49:16.677 --> 00:49:19.197
One of the most crucial moments
of authoritarian capture

1157
00:49:19.232 --> 00:49:21.096
is when traditional elites

1158
00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:25.307
invite the
authoritarian-in-the-making
into power.

1159
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.587
Fascism was a very
violent movement.

1160
00:49:31.175 --> 00:49:33.108
The political establishment,

1161
00:49:33.142 --> 00:49:34.972
these traditional conservatives,

1162
00:49:35.006 --> 00:49:38.458
were so frightened of the
continuation of the violence

1163
00:49:38.492 --> 00:49:42.117
that they actually invited
him to become Prime Minister.

1164
00:49:42.151 --> 00:49:44.119
He was invited into the office

1165
00:49:44.153 --> 00:49:46.742
and they thought that
he could be contained

1166
00:49:46.776 --> 00:49:48.502
and he would do their dirty work

1167
00:49:48.537 --> 00:49:50.504
and then they could control him

1168
00:49:50.539 --> 00:49:53.818
and tragically,
that was not to be.

1169
00:49:53.852 --> 00:49:55.509
He attacked the press.

1170
00:49:55.544 --> 00:49:59.686
He attacked democracy
as something that
was not necessary.

1171
00:49:59.720 --> 00:50:02.896
He joked about having
term limits removed.

1172
00:50:04.725 --> 00:50:07.314
His arch enemy,
Giacomo Matteotti,

1173
00:50:07.349 --> 00:50:09.006
the leader of the
Socialist Party,

1174
00:50:09.040 --> 00:50:12.043
was seen being taken
away by fascist thugs.

1175
00:50:12.078 --> 00:50:13.596
Eventually, his body was found

1176
00:50:13.631 --> 00:50:15.046
but it was a huge outrage

1177
00:50:15.081 --> 00:50:17.566
and a special
investigation was launched

1178
00:50:17.600 --> 00:50:19.326
with the prosecutor

1179
00:50:19.361 --> 00:50:20.879
and in the course of this,

1180
00:50:20.914 --> 00:50:23.503
Mussolini's career
looked like it was over

1181
00:50:23.537 --> 00:50:25.574
and he was being asked to resign

1182
00:50:25.608 --> 00:50:30.613
and to end this, he declared a
dictatorship in January 1925.

1183
00:50:31.752 --> 00:50:33.064
He changed the
special prosecutors.

1184
00:50:33.099 --> 00:50:36.102
The assassins were given
light prison sentences

1185
00:50:36.136 --> 00:50:37.551
and eventually pardoned

1186
00:50:37.586 --> 00:50:40.071
because dictators love
to pardon criminals

1187
00:50:41.486 --> 00:50:44.558
and the Italian society
was never the same again.

1188
00:50:47.113 --> 00:50:51.013
[chanting in foreign language]

1189
00:50:52.980 --> 00:50:56.087
There are times in history
when figures appear

1190
00:50:56.122 --> 00:51:00.264
who are able to coalesce
existing hatreds and anxieties

1191
00:51:00.298 --> 00:51:01.817
that exist in a culture

1192
00:51:01.851 --> 00:51:05.476
and form from them a
movement through rallies,

1193
00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:08.479
through propaganda,
through promises to them.

1194
00:51:08.513 --> 00:51:11.585
- We will be ending
the AIDS epidemic

1195
00:51:11.620 --> 00:51:14.312
and curing childhood cancer.

1196
00:51:14.347 --> 00:51:16.107
- [Ruth] Only they
know the truth,

1197
00:51:16.142 --> 00:51:18.075
only they can fix the problems.

1198
00:51:18.109 --> 00:51:21.492
- We are finally
putting America first.

1199
00:51:22.769 --> 00:51:24.288
- My name is Cheryl Koos

1200
00:51:24.322 --> 00:51:27.843
and I'm a historian
of interwar Europe,

1201
00:51:27.877 --> 00:51:30.501
and fascism and
authoritarianism.

1202
00:51:32.054 --> 00:51:35.644
Hitler gained his followers by
promising them a better life,

1203
00:51:35.678 --> 00:51:36.748
a better Germany

1204
00:51:36.783 --> 00:51:38.819
but he also had a scapegoat.

1205
00:51:38.854 --> 00:51:42.685
- Jews as diseased
and foreign objects.

1206
00:51:42.720 --> 00:51:45.688
One of the most dangerous things
about authoritarian leaders

1207
00:51:45.723 --> 00:51:48.622
is that they're particular
personal quirks,

1208
00:51:48.657 --> 00:51:51.591
their obsessions,
their preoccupations

1209
00:51:51.625 --> 00:51:53.800
often become state policy.

1210
00:51:53.834 --> 00:51:55.767
- And I think one of the
manifestations of that

1211
00:51:55.802 --> 00:51:59.046
that we've seen in policy is
the Zero Tolerance Policy.

1212
00:51:59.081 --> 00:52:03.327
- Immigration is the fault
in all of the problems

1213
00:52:03.361 --> 00:52:04.604
that we're having.

1214
00:52:04.638 --> 00:52:06.053
You look at what's
happening in Europe,

1215
00:52:06.088 --> 00:52:07.710
you look at what's
happening in other places,

1216
00:52:07.745 --> 00:52:10.368
we can't allow that to
happen to the United States,

1217
00:52:10.403 --> 00:52:11.680
not on my watch.

1218
00:52:11.714 --> 00:52:14.441
- The separating of
children from parents,

1219
00:52:14.476 --> 00:52:16.443
think about the kind
of mind to think,

1220
00:52:16.478 --> 00:52:18.169
"I know how we're gonna
restrict immigration.

1221
00:52:18.204 --> 00:52:21.034
"Let's take their
children away [cackles]"

1222
00:52:21.068 --> 00:52:24.313
I mean, it's a cruel,
almost cartoonishly evil,

1223
00:52:24.348 --> 00:52:25.797
kind of thing to do.

1224
00:52:25.832 --> 00:52:27.834
- Who's number one
with Hispanics?

1225
00:52:27.868 --> 00:52:29.387
Trump.

1226
00:52:29.422 --> 00:52:32.321
- It's a violation
of human rights

1227
00:52:32.356 --> 00:52:35.290
to take children away
from their parents,

1228
00:52:35.324 --> 00:52:39.225
to be so uncaring about
the permanent effect

1229
00:52:39.259 --> 00:52:41.641
on these children, and
it is gonna be permanent,

1230
00:52:41.675 --> 00:52:44.575
is cruel and sadistic behavior,

1231
00:52:44.609 --> 00:52:46.646
it's completely
different from saying

1232
00:52:46.680 --> 00:52:48.475
we need to have strong borders,

1233
00:52:48.510 --> 00:52:51.513
or we need to limit immigration
or something like that.

1234
00:52:51.547 --> 00:52:54.205
Those things, if
they are worth doing,

1235
00:52:54.240 --> 00:52:57.277
can be done without
destroying children's lives.

1236
00:52:59.521 --> 00:53:00.729
- One institution,
in my opinion,

1237
00:53:00.763 --> 00:53:03.663
that hasn't stood up
for themselves at all

1238
00:53:03.697 --> 00:53:06.044
are Congress and the
Republican Party.

1239
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.393
- It's quite extraordinary
that the Republic Party,

1240
00:53:09.427 --> 00:53:14.398
they're slotting right into
behavior in Italy in 1920s

1241
00:53:15.571 --> 00:53:18.298
and Germany in the
early 1930s and so on.

1242
00:53:20.266 --> 00:53:21.439
- [Donald] I wanna
know who's the person

1243
00:53:21.474 --> 00:53:24.373
who gave the whistleblower,

1244
00:53:24.408 --> 00:53:27.238
who's the person who gave the
whistleblower the information?

1245
00:53:27.273 --> 00:53:28.757
Because that's close to a spy.

1246
00:53:29.930 --> 00:53:31.622
You know what we used
to do in the old days

1247
00:53:31.656 --> 00:53:33.244
when we were smart?

1248
00:53:33.279 --> 00:53:35.384
The spies and treason,

1249
00:53:35.419 --> 00:53:38.215
we used to handle it a little
differently than we do now.

1250
00:53:39.837 --> 00:53:42.149
- He does not
believe in democracy.

1251
00:53:43.323 --> 00:53:46.292
The way he rules in the
White House shows that.

1252
00:53:46.326 --> 00:53:49.156
It reminded me of something
I read by Ivana Trump

1253
00:53:49.191 --> 00:53:50.951
when he was married to her

1254
00:53:50.986 --> 00:53:52.815
and in their divorce proceedings

1255
00:53:52.850 --> 00:53:57.544
she had written that he liked
reading Hitler's speeches,

1256
00:53:57.579 --> 00:54:00.271
and Hitler's speeches
would always build you up

1257
00:54:00.306 --> 00:54:03.136
to this crescendo of shouting

1258
00:54:03.170 --> 00:54:05.587
and repeating things three times

1259
00:54:05.621 --> 00:54:07.830
because if you repeat
something three times,

1260
00:54:07.865 --> 00:54:09.315
it breaks through
to the audience

1261
00:54:09.349 --> 00:54:11.972
and it becomes a
fact in their mind.

1262
00:54:12.007 --> 00:54:13.457
- And I want you all to know

1263
00:54:13.491 --> 00:54:15.804
that we are fighting
the fake news,

1264
00:54:15.838 --> 00:54:17.633
it's fake, phony, fake.

1265
00:54:17.668 --> 00:54:20.360
[crowd cheering]

1266
00:54:23.605 --> 00:54:24.813
A few days ago

1267
00:54:24.847 --> 00:54:27.402
I called the fake news
the enemy of the people,

1268
00:54:27.436 --> 00:54:30.474
and they are, they are
the enemy of the people.

1269
00:54:32.441 --> 00:54:35.858
- The big lie technique
that came from Nazis,

1270
00:54:35.893 --> 00:54:38.516
so now we're faced
with the same problem.

1271
00:54:38.551 --> 00:54:40.691
People say over and
over and over again

1272
00:54:40.725 --> 00:54:42.831
something which has
never been true,

1273
00:54:42.865 --> 00:54:47.042
it's a lie, basically,
or it may be a prejudice

1274
00:54:47.076 --> 00:54:48.319
but when you repeat it,

1275
00:54:48.354 --> 00:54:51.322
unless it's challenged
quickly and effectively,

1276
00:54:51.357 --> 00:54:55.222
it becomes the norm, it
becomes accepted wisdom

1277
00:54:55.257 --> 00:54:57.535
even though it's
completely wrong.

1278
00:54:57.570 --> 00:54:58.709
- Repeat everything three times

1279
00:54:58.743 --> 00:55:00.711
and the third time
it becomes the truth.

1280
00:55:00.745 --> 00:55:03.369
He is capitalizing on that.

1281
00:55:03.403 --> 00:55:05.060
- The Authoritarian Playbook

1282
00:55:05.094 --> 00:55:10.099
is a way that these kinds
of men capture democracy.

1283
00:55:11.515 --> 00:55:14.690
After they get power, they
proceed to tame the judiciary,

1284
00:55:14.725 --> 00:55:16.796
they attack the press

1285
00:55:16.830 --> 00:55:19.626
and the ultimate aim is
to get people to believe

1286
00:55:19.661 --> 00:55:22.698
that reality is
what they say it is.

1287
00:55:22.733 --> 00:55:23.906
- The fake news, right?

1288
00:55:23.941 --> 00:55:24.873
The fake news.

1289
00:55:24.907 --> 00:55:28.048
[crowd cheering]

1290
00:55:28.083 --> 00:55:30.050
- They are not about
the greater good

1291
00:55:30.085 --> 00:55:32.881
and calling people to
their better angels,

1292
00:55:32.915 --> 00:55:37.920
they're about fostering a sense
of victimization and fear,

1293
00:55:39.059 --> 00:55:42.718
and how the nation
could be purer,

1294
00:55:42.753 --> 00:55:46.377
and how the nation
would be better

1295
00:55:46.412 --> 00:55:49.725
without X, Y and Z elements.

1296
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:50.864
- Hail Trump!

1297
00:55:50.899 --> 00:55:52.072
Hail our people!

1298
00:55:52.107 --> 00:55:53.211
Hail victory!

1299
00:55:54.385 --> 00:55:55.593
- [Interviewer] So,
is it appropriate

1300
00:55:55.628 --> 00:55:58.009
to compare Trump to Hitler?

1301
00:55:58.044 --> 00:56:00.115
- I compare Trump to
Hitler all the time

1302
00:56:00.149 --> 00:56:04.015
and that makes people angry and
I'm not gonna stop doing it,

1303
00:56:04.050 --> 00:56:06.501
and I'll tell you why I'm
not gonna stop doing it

1304
00:56:06.535 --> 00:56:09.366
because my father
was a great historian

1305
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.437
and student of Jewish history

1306
00:56:11.471 --> 00:56:13.024
and he used to say
to me all the time,

1307
00:56:13.059 --> 00:56:16.200
"John, the meaning of
history is in the Holocaust."

1308
00:56:16.234 --> 00:56:17.753
We cannot be silent.

1309
00:56:18.927 --> 00:56:21.067
It's not that he's
as bad as Hitler

1310
00:56:21.101 --> 00:56:23.380
or that he's the
equivalent of Hitler,

1311
00:56:23.414 --> 00:56:25.761
but he has the same
diagnosis as Hitler.

1312
00:56:25.796 --> 00:56:27.694
He's in the same category,

1313
00:56:27.729 --> 00:56:30.214
that it's a psychological type

1314
00:56:30.248 --> 00:56:32.872
that can be more or less extreme

1315
00:56:32.906 --> 00:56:35.150
but they share these
common characteristics,

1316
00:56:35.184 --> 00:56:36.910
they're cut from the same cloth.

1317
00:56:42.571 --> 00:56:45.885
Those of us who've been
raised in this current era,

1318
00:56:45.919 --> 00:56:47.818
we don't realize how
spoiled we've been.

1319
00:56:47.852 --> 00:56:50.924
We've been raised from the
World War II boom of prosperity

1320
00:56:50.959 --> 00:56:52.995
to today, one of
the greatest periods

1321
00:56:53.030 --> 00:56:55.273
of peace and prosperity
in human history

1322
00:56:56.447 --> 00:56:59.174
and we've also
taken it for granted

1323
00:56:59.208 --> 00:57:01.314
that our democracy was solid,

1324
00:57:01.348 --> 00:57:03.109
that liberal democracy

1325
00:57:03.143 --> 00:57:05.180
is now becoming the
touchstone for the planet,

1326
00:57:05.214 --> 00:57:07.458
that's what we believed
three years ago

1327
00:57:07.493 --> 00:57:11.738
but Plato predicted
thousands of years ago

1328
00:57:11.773 --> 00:57:14.672
that democracies
always end in autocracy

1329
00:57:18.365 --> 00:57:20.644
and we're so naive that
we don't understand

1330
00:57:20.678 --> 00:57:23.647
that every democracy
is always vulnerable

1331
00:57:23.681 --> 00:57:27.789
to being taken over and
turned into an autocracy.

1332
00:57:27.823 --> 00:57:30.136
- We are in the third era

1333
00:57:30.170 --> 00:57:33.588
of the rise of
charismatic threatening
strongmen in history.

1334
00:57:33.622 --> 00:57:35.590
The first was during
the Fascist period

1335
00:57:35.624 --> 00:57:37.350
in the '20s and '30s.

1336
00:57:37.384 --> 00:57:41.147
After World War II, you
had anticolonial strongmen

1337
00:57:41.181 --> 00:57:43.045
like Mobutu and Qaddafi

1338
00:57:43.080 --> 00:57:46.946
and today, we have a
new crop of leaders

1339
00:57:46.980 --> 00:57:49.500
who are threatening
liberal democracy

1340
00:57:49.535 --> 00:57:52.054
or have already
partly destroyed it.

1341
00:57:52.089 --> 00:57:54.229
- Trump has helped autocrats
all around the world just,

1342
00:57:54.263 --> 00:57:57.163
I mean, almost immediately
out of the box.

1343
00:57:57.197 --> 00:57:58.371
Erdogan in Turkey.

1344
00:57:58.405 --> 00:57:59.855
- [Translator]
Turkey has the right

1345
00:57:59.890 --> 00:58:02.133
to eliminate all possible
threats towards sovereignty,

1346
00:58:02.168 --> 00:58:04.204
with or without it's allies.

1347
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:05.896
- [Malcom] el-Sisi in Egypt.

1348
00:58:07.035 --> 00:58:08.243
- [Translator] Whenever
there is a minority

1349
00:58:08.277 --> 00:58:10.694
trying to impose their
extremist ideology,

1350
00:58:10.728 --> 00:58:13.490
we have to intervene
regardless of their numbers.

1351
00:58:13.524 --> 00:58:15.146
[speaks in foreign language]

1352
00:58:15.181 --> 00:58:16.493
- [Malcolm] Even in Libya,

1353
00:58:16.527 --> 00:58:19.012
they're backing the
strongman al-Haftar.

1354
00:58:19.047 --> 00:58:20.358
- His most important aim

1355
00:58:20.393 --> 00:58:21.981
is take over the
capital, of course,

1356
00:58:22.015 --> 00:58:23.845
because the one who
takes over the capital

1357
00:58:23.879 --> 00:58:25.571
is the one in power.

1358
00:58:25.605 --> 00:58:28.366
- [Malcolm] You have presidents
like Bolsonaro in Brazil.

1359
00:58:28.401 --> 00:58:29.575
[speaks in foreign language]

1360
00:58:29.609 --> 00:58:30.852
- [Translator]
These red outcasts

1361
00:58:30.886 --> 00:58:32.819
will be banished
from our homeland,

1362
00:58:32.854 --> 00:58:35.926
it will be a cleansing never
seen in Brazilian history.

1363
00:58:36.892 --> 00:58:38.031
- [Malcolm] You have strongmen

1364
00:58:38.066 --> 00:58:40.102
in the Philippines like Duterte.

1365
00:58:40.137 --> 00:58:43.071
- Hitler massacred
three million Jews.

1366
00:58:44.486 --> 00:58:47.385
Now, there is three
million drug addicts,

1367
00:58:49.698 --> 00:58:51.528
I'd be happy to slaughter them.

1368
00:58:51.562 --> 00:58:53.564
- [Malcolm] Vladimir Putin.

1369
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.395
[speaks in foreign language]

1370
00:59:05.162 --> 00:59:07.233
[crowd cheering]

1371
00:59:07.267 --> 00:59:09.407
- Russia is actually fueling

1372
00:59:09.442 --> 00:59:12.203
right wing extremist
governments in Europe,

1373
00:59:12.238 --> 00:59:13.722
they're funding them.

1374
00:59:13.757 --> 00:59:16.276
AFD in Germany, Alternative
for Deutschland.

1375
00:59:17.484 --> 00:59:21.592
[crowd chanting in
foreign language]

1376
00:59:23.421 --> 00:59:26.735
They're the second largest
political party in Germany

1377
00:59:26.770 --> 00:59:31.775
fueled mainly by hatred of
liberalism and immigration.

1378
00:59:32.983 --> 00:59:36.400
These people are all
fellow travelers now

1379
00:59:36.434 --> 00:59:37.815
and as fellow travelers,

1380
00:59:37.850 --> 00:59:39.610
they all believe
in the same thing

1381
00:59:39.645 --> 00:59:44.166
and they believe that democracy
is a failed experiment

1382
00:59:44.201 --> 00:59:48.481
and that the polar axis
of the world should shift.

1383
00:59:48.515 --> 00:59:53.003
We are in a battle for our
political and ideological lives,

1384
00:59:53.037 --> 00:59:57.076
what was America is now
under siege around the world.

1385
00:59:57.110 --> 01:00:00.769
This is a dangerous,
dangerous time for the world.

1386
01:00:00.804 --> 01:00:05.463
Are we moving to a time where
the 1930s have been forgotten

1387
01:00:05.498 --> 01:00:09.502
and people are viewing it
a template not a warning?

1388
01:00:10.814 --> 01:00:14.265
- The only way we can
perpetuate a democracy

1389
01:00:14.300 --> 01:00:16.958
is by people
sharing those values

1390
01:00:16.992 --> 01:00:20.478
and thinking that that is
something to be upheld.

1391
01:00:20.513 --> 01:00:22.964
- I mean, Trump is a
symptom of a lot of things,

1392
01:00:22.998 --> 01:00:25.829
including a rise of a
kind of ethnonationalism

1393
01:00:25.863 --> 01:00:27.382
and authoritarianism

1394
01:00:27.416 --> 01:00:31.041
but he is a symptom who's
become a very important cause.

1395
01:00:31.075 --> 01:00:33.181
The United States
is standing against

1396
01:00:33.215 --> 01:00:37.219
ethnonationalist sentiments
and authoritarian regimes

1397
01:00:37.254 --> 01:00:38.669
around the world,

1398
01:00:38.704 --> 01:00:41.810
I think that puts a certain
amount of check on them.

1399
01:00:41.845 --> 01:00:44.226
With the American
president on their side,

1400
01:00:44.261 --> 01:00:46.850
it's an exponential
shot in the arm

1401
01:00:46.884 --> 01:00:50.405
for them and an exponential
weakening of liberal democracy

1402
01:00:50.439 --> 01:00:51.337
around the world.

1403
01:00:55.237 --> 01:00:59.552
- I actually go back to,
believe it or not, chimpanzees.

1404
01:01:03.073 --> 01:01:06.179
When Jane Goodall was
observing chimpanzees,

1405
01:01:06.214 --> 01:01:09.182
one of the things she showed
us was how loving they were,

1406
01:01:10.287 --> 01:01:11.737
and how human they were,

1407
01:01:12.841 --> 01:01:14.153
and she bonded with them

1408
01:01:14.187 --> 01:01:15.395
and formed these
relationships with them

1409
01:01:15.430 --> 01:01:18.536
and then the males would
compete for dominance.

1410
01:01:18.571 --> 01:01:19.986
They'd pound their chest,

1411
01:01:20.021 --> 01:01:21.608
and they'd throw
dirt up in the air,

1412
01:01:21.643 --> 01:01:23.196
and they'd throw heavy
rocks into the river

1413
01:01:23.231 --> 01:01:25.164
to show who is more powerful

1414
01:01:25.198 --> 01:01:27.166
but no one ever really got hurt.

1415
01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:28.857
It was all called
display behavior

1416
01:01:28.892 --> 01:01:30.721
just to show who
was the toughest

1417
01:01:30.756 --> 01:01:32.861
and that person would
become the alpha.

1418
01:01:32.896 --> 01:01:34.760
What happened, though,
after many years

1419
01:01:34.794 --> 01:01:37.521
is that troop that she
observed became so big

1420
01:01:37.555 --> 01:01:40.041
that they split into two troops.

1421
01:01:40.075 --> 01:01:43.561
So everything she taught
us about chimpanzees

1422
01:01:43.596 --> 01:01:46.116
is really what we would
call within group behavior,

1423
01:01:46.150 --> 01:01:48.774
it says nothing about
between group behavior.

1424
01:01:51.397 --> 01:01:53.054
Once the troops had split apart,

1425
01:01:54.331 --> 01:01:57.265
a very aggressive
charismatic alpha male

1426
01:01:57.299 --> 01:01:59.854
from one of the groups would
start beating his chest,

1427
01:01:59.888 --> 01:02:01.890
and hooting, and
slapping the other males,

1428
01:02:01.925 --> 01:02:03.202
and getting them excited

1429
01:02:03.236 --> 01:02:04.962
and then they would
start marching

1430
01:02:04.997 --> 01:02:06.205
toward the other
group's territory

1431
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:08.034
and the other males
would follow him

1432
01:02:08.069 --> 01:02:10.934
[percussive music]

1433
01:02:10.968 --> 01:02:12.798
and they would wait at
the edge of the territory

1434
01:02:12.832 --> 01:02:14.109
for another male,

1435
01:02:14.144 --> 01:02:16.560
maybe even someone
they were friends with

1436
01:02:16.594 --> 01:02:18.493
when the troop was one troop

1437
01:02:18.527 --> 01:02:20.495
and they will
barrel down the hill

1438
01:02:20.529 --> 01:02:22.083
and beat that male to death.

1439
01:02:22.117 --> 01:02:25.465
[chimpanzees shrieking]

1440
01:02:26.777 --> 01:02:28.261
And they'll do
that systematically

1441
01:02:28.296 --> 01:02:29.676
until they're able to take over

1442
01:02:29.711 --> 01:02:31.748
the other group's
females and their land.

1443
01:02:33.335 --> 01:02:36.235
Now, think about this from an
evolutionary point of view.

1444
01:02:36.269 --> 01:02:38.271
Who's genes got to move on?

1445
01:02:40.101 --> 01:02:43.276
The troop with the malignant,
narcissistic leaders

1446
01:02:43.311 --> 01:02:45.900
that said, "Let's go kill
all the other chimpanzees."

1447
01:02:45.934 --> 01:02:49.075
[chimpanzees shrieking]

1448
01:02:49.110 --> 01:02:52.251
So this is very deep in
our genetic programming

1449
01:02:52.285 --> 01:02:54.701
and this is why
demagogues like Trump

1450
01:02:54.736 --> 01:02:57.014
are able to be successful

1451
01:02:57.049 --> 01:03:00.811
because before Trump we had
fractures in our society

1452
01:03:00.846 --> 01:03:03.710
but we had this overarching
identity as Americans.

1453
01:03:03.745 --> 01:03:05.022
Donald Trump
fractures it and says,

1454
01:03:05.057 --> 01:03:07.024
"No, we're actually two troops

1455
01:03:07.059 --> 01:03:10.165
"and our troop is being
attacked by that troop

1456
01:03:10.200 --> 01:03:12.650
"and if we don't go over there

1457
01:03:12.685 --> 01:03:14.307
"and beat the crap out of them,

1458
01:03:14.342 --> 01:03:15.792
"they're gonna destroy us."

1459
01:03:16.723 --> 01:03:20.003
And that is like a siren song

1460
01:03:20.037 --> 01:03:21.970
to the deep genetic programming

1461
01:03:22.005 --> 01:03:24.317
in the base of our animal brains

1462
01:03:24.352 --> 01:03:26.872
that, yes, if
somebody convinces us

1463
01:03:26.906 --> 01:03:28.701
that other troop is
trying to kill us,

1464
01:03:28.735 --> 01:03:30.876
and I don't care how
bad my leader is,

1465
01:03:30.910 --> 01:03:32.843
but he's the one who's leading
us to the edge of the troop

1466
01:03:32.878 --> 01:03:35.673
so only one of us
is gonna survive

1467
01:03:35.708 --> 01:03:37.296
who cares if he's a liar?

1468
01:03:37.330 --> 01:03:38.573
We wanna survive

1469
01:03:38.607 --> 01:03:39.816
and the only way we survive

1470
01:03:39.850 --> 01:03:41.679
is by attacking
those other people.

1471
01:03:41.714 --> 01:03:45.994
That primitive programming
is actually not atypical,

1472
01:03:46.029 --> 01:03:48.652
they're not anomalous,
they're not unusual.

1473
01:03:48.686 --> 01:03:49.998
Humankind has been at war

1474
01:03:50.033 --> 01:03:51.862
in every place at
every time, right?

1475
01:03:51.897 --> 01:03:55.866
And they've been horrible in
war to burning down villages,

1476
01:03:55.901 --> 01:03:58.317
raping women, torturing
people, killing people,

1477
01:03:58.351 --> 01:04:02.562
that's actually normal for the
human animal, unfortunately.

1478
01:04:02.597 --> 01:04:05.082
It's the psychology of power.

1479
01:04:05.117 --> 01:04:06.566
[crowd cheering]

1480
01:04:06.601 --> 01:04:09.569
We all tend to fall
behind the powerful leader

1481
01:04:09.604 --> 01:04:12.227
out of self-preservation and
out of group perseveration,

1482
01:04:12.262 --> 01:04:13.746
it's the natural instinct.

1483
01:04:21.927 --> 01:04:23.342
- [Interviewer] What
are you most fearful of

1484
01:04:23.376 --> 01:04:26.414
about this president
being in control?

1485
01:04:26.448 --> 01:04:27.898
- Nuclear war.

1486
01:04:27.933 --> 01:04:31.074
I mean, that's the long-term,
that's the biggest risk,

1487
01:04:31.108 --> 01:04:34.801
is that he gets in
a confrontation with
a foreign leader,

1488
01:04:34.836 --> 01:04:39.841
North Korea, with China
where his ego's on the line.

1489
01:04:40.600 --> 01:04:41.463
- Several months ago,

1490
01:04:43.949 --> 01:04:48.919
a foreign policy expert
on an international level

1491
01:04:49.782 --> 01:04:51.473
went to advise Donald Trump

1492
01:04:51.508 --> 01:04:55.581
and three times he asked about
the use of nuclear weapons.

1493
01:04:56.685 --> 01:04:58.929
Three times he
asked, at one point,

1494
01:04:58.964 --> 01:05:01.759
"If we have them, why
can't we use them?"

1495
01:05:05.453 --> 01:05:08.974
- North Korea best not
make any more threats

1496
01:05:09.008 --> 01:05:10.527
to the United States,

1497
01:05:11.700 --> 01:05:15.152
they will be met
with fire and fury

1498
01:05:15.187 --> 01:05:20.054
the likes of which this
world has never seen before.

1499
01:05:20.088 --> 01:05:21.572
- A president of
the United States,

1500
01:05:21.607 --> 01:05:23.298
even if he's being a showman,

1501
01:05:23.333 --> 01:05:27.509
saying that we will bring
fire and fury to your country,

1502
01:05:27.544 --> 01:05:29.960
that is an implicit
nuclear threat.

1503
01:05:29.995 --> 01:05:32.411
Donald Trump does not
have the temperament

1504
01:05:32.445 --> 01:05:34.827
to be around these systems.

1505
01:05:34.861 --> 01:05:37.002
- Welcome to the White House.

1506
01:05:37.036 --> 01:05:39.590
This ceremony and the
treaty we are signing today

1507
01:05:39.625 --> 01:05:43.111
are both excellent examples
of the rewards of patience.

1508
01:05:43.146 --> 01:05:46.114
- [Narrator] It was 1987
and President Reagan

1509
01:05:46.149 --> 01:05:48.599
and Soviet leader
Mikhail Gorbachev

1510
01:05:48.634 --> 01:05:52.293
celebrated the Intermediate
Range Nuclear Forces Treaty

1511
01:05:52.327 --> 01:05:54.812
as calming Cold War tensions.

1512
01:05:56.228 --> 01:05:59.541
The INF scrapped thousands
of ground launched

1513
01:05:59.576 --> 01:06:01.716
nuclear and
conventional missiles

1514
01:06:02.924 --> 01:06:06.997
with ranges of from
300 to 3,400 miles.

1515
01:06:09.344 --> 01:06:10.863
- [Reporter] Moscow
and Washington

1516
01:06:10.897 --> 01:06:15.281
have repeatedly accused each
other of violating the treaty,

1517
01:06:15.316 --> 01:06:18.146
a deal that helps protect
the security of the U.S.

1518
01:06:18.181 --> 01:06:21.322
and its allies in
Europe and the Far East.

1519
01:06:21.356 --> 01:06:24.187
Russia has condemned
President Trump's intention

1520
01:06:24.221 --> 01:06:26.154
to withdraw from the pact,

1521
01:06:26.189 --> 01:06:27.914
the Deputy Foreign
Minister is saying

1522
01:06:27.949 --> 01:06:30.503
it would be a very
dangerous step.

1523
01:06:31.366 --> 01:06:33.748
- [Man] Sierra, Victor, Two.

1524
01:06:35.715 --> 01:06:37.717
- [Malcom] The President
of the United States

1525
01:06:37.752 --> 01:06:40.030
is a nuclear monarchy.

1526
01:06:40.065 --> 01:06:41.238
He is a king.

1527
01:06:41.273 --> 01:06:45.139
There are no safeguards
other than his whim,

1528
01:06:45.173 --> 01:06:48.038
that determines when he launches
an atomic bomb and where.

1529
01:06:49.212 --> 01:06:51.593
The briefcase that
he has, the football,

1530
01:06:51.628 --> 01:06:53.561
is a communications device

1531
01:06:53.595 --> 01:06:56.874
and all it does is
authenticates him

1532
01:06:56.909 --> 01:06:59.877
to the nuclear arsenal's
chain of command.

1533
01:06:59.912 --> 01:07:01.672
- [Commander] Unlock code enter,

1534
01:07:01.707 --> 01:07:03.226
Juliet, Papa, Papa.

1535
01:07:03.260 --> 01:07:05.573
- [Malcolm] And it
executes his order

1536
01:07:05.607 --> 01:07:07.471
once he has
authenticated himself.

1537
01:07:09.094 --> 01:07:10.060
- [Commander] Mark.

1538
01:07:10.095 --> 01:07:10.957
T-minus 50.

1539
01:07:12.959 --> 01:07:17.274
- Not one bomb's going,
multiple bombs are going

1540
01:07:17.309 --> 01:07:19.104
So when you choose that option,

1541
01:07:19.138 --> 01:07:24.074
that missile will blow that
country up in 35 minutes

1542
01:07:24.109 --> 01:07:25.765
and there is no turning it off.

1543
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:28.975
Once they boost into
space, they're gone.

1544
01:07:30.632 --> 01:07:35.430
- The president has
the authority to order
a nuclear attack,

1545
01:07:35.465 --> 01:07:36.949
including a first strike

1546
01:07:36.983 --> 01:07:41.781
and it is extremely unlikely
that the military command

1547
01:07:41.816 --> 01:07:43.542
would not take his orders.

1548
01:07:43.576 --> 01:07:45.199
- The president can decide

1549
01:07:45.233 --> 01:07:48.098
that France is a
national security threat

1550
01:07:48.133 --> 01:07:50.997
and he can order an ICBM strike.

1551
01:07:51.032 --> 01:07:52.482
- [Man] That's not
the correct procedure.

1552
01:07:52.516 --> 01:07:53.793
- Screw the procedure.

1553
01:07:53.828 --> 01:07:55.243
I want somebody on
the goddamn phone

1554
01:07:55.278 --> 01:07:56.313
before I kill 20 million people.

1555
01:07:56.348 --> 01:07:57.659
- Sir, we have a launch order.

1556
01:07:57.694 --> 01:07:59.316
- [Timer] Four, three, two

1557
01:07:59.351 --> 01:08:01.663
- Put your hand
on the keys, sir.

1558
01:08:01.698 --> 01:08:02.871
- [Timer] One, launch.

1559
01:08:08.049 --> 01:08:09.464
- So what do you say to people

1560
01:08:09.499 --> 01:08:12.571
who say that Trump is a
bluffer, a strategic thinker,

1561
01:08:12.605 --> 01:08:14.366
he won't do this?

1562
01:08:15.781 --> 01:08:18.508
Are you willing to bet
your children's life on it?

1563
01:08:18.542 --> 01:08:20.096
Are you willing to bet the lives

1564
01:08:20.130 --> 01:08:22.753
of every person in
this nation on it?

1565
01:08:22.788 --> 01:08:24.272
And if you're
willing to say that

1566
01:08:24.307 --> 01:08:29.070
about any person who will
pathologically lie to you,

1567
01:08:30.313 --> 01:08:34.282
to your face, documentable,
quantifiably lie

1568
01:08:34.317 --> 01:08:39.149
to you, your wife, your
children on a daily basis,

1569
01:08:39.184 --> 01:08:42.739
then you don't really
understand what the stakes are.

1570
01:08:43.843 --> 01:08:46.743
[missile blasting]

1571
01:08:55.993 --> 01:09:00.481
We cannot allow that kind
of gamesmanship to continue,

1572
01:09:00.515 --> 01:09:04.381
this man controls those weapons.

1573
01:09:06.487 --> 01:09:09.524
- I don't think you
can understand Trump

1574
01:09:09.559 --> 01:09:13.321
or much else of what's
going on in the world today

1575
01:09:13.356 --> 01:09:17.877
without factoring in the
effects of death anxiety.

1576
01:09:19.327 --> 01:09:23.952
Are we doing what we're doing
for the reasons that we claim

1577
01:09:24.781 --> 01:09:26.196
or could there be something

1578
01:09:26.231 --> 01:09:29.165
that lurks beneath the
surface of consciousness?

1579
01:09:31.270 --> 01:09:32.513
In "The Denial of Death",

1580
01:09:32.547 --> 01:09:37.034
Becker argues that
it is our awareness

1581
01:09:37.069 --> 01:09:39.347
that we will inevitably die

1582
01:09:39.382 --> 01:09:42.557
and our inability to
accept the reality

1583
01:09:42.592 --> 01:09:45.767
of the human condition
with grace and courage

1584
01:09:45.802 --> 01:09:49.702
that underlies almost
all human activity.

1585
01:09:52.602 --> 01:09:56.053
What Freud pointed out
is that we're animals

1586
01:09:56.088 --> 01:09:57.952
and we don't like that,

1587
01:09:57.986 --> 01:10:00.403
we're breathing pieces
of defecating meat

1588
01:10:00.437 --> 01:10:02.267
that aren't any more significant

1589
01:10:02.301 --> 01:10:05.062
or enduring than
lizards or potatoes.

1590
01:10:05.097 --> 01:10:06.374
So, if you think about it,

1591
01:10:06.409 --> 01:10:07.617
I'm gonna die,

1592
01:10:07.651 --> 01:10:10.689
I could walk outside and
get smoked by a comet.

1593
01:10:10.723 --> 01:10:12.725
You wouldn't be able to
stand up in the morning.

1594
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.072
You would literally
be overwhelmed

1595
01:10:15.107 --> 01:10:17.937
by paralyzing
existential terror.

1596
01:10:19.456 --> 01:10:24.116
What we do to bury that anxiety
is to embrace belief systems

1597
01:10:24.150 --> 01:10:26.636
that life has meaning
and we have value.

1598
01:10:27.637 --> 01:10:30.018
In a single word, culture.

1599
01:10:31.468 --> 01:10:36.301
So the prevailing belief in
the U.S. in the last century

1600
01:10:37.750 --> 01:10:40.305
is that America is the home
of the free and the brave,

1601
01:10:41.651 --> 01:10:44.757
anybody who works hard enough

1602
01:10:44.792 --> 01:10:46.932
can be just as successful

1603
01:10:46.966 --> 01:10:51.799
as Oprah, or Bill
Gates, or Warren Buffet

1604
01:10:51.833 --> 01:10:56.459
and that we will always be
the world's foremost economic,

1605
01:10:56.493 --> 01:10:59.979
as well as military power

1606
01:11:00.014 --> 01:11:02.499
and so one of the first knees

1607
01:11:02.534 --> 01:11:06.331
in our psychological
groin was 9/11

1608
01:11:07.470 --> 01:11:10.956
when both our military
and economic power

1609
01:11:10.990 --> 01:11:12.164
had been challenged,

1610
01:11:13.372 --> 01:11:16.582
then we get clobbered
with the recession,

1611
01:11:16.617 --> 01:11:18.964
combined with globalization,

1612
01:11:18.998 --> 01:11:21.277
combined with
demographic reality

1613
01:11:21.311 --> 01:11:23.417
that by the middle
of the century

1614
01:11:23.451 --> 01:11:26.696
white people will
be in the minority

1615
01:11:26.730 --> 01:11:28.870
and so for many Americans,

1616
01:11:28.905 --> 01:11:33.254
their world view have
been completely upended.

1617
01:11:34.082 --> 01:11:37.154
So fast forward to 2015,

1618
01:11:37.189 --> 01:11:40.468
Donald Trump declares that
he's running for President.

1619
01:11:41.504 --> 01:11:43.437
He comes down the escalator.

1620
01:11:43.471 --> 01:11:48.476
He's like, "Mexicans
are rapists, I'm
gonna keep you safe."

1621
01:11:49.650 --> 01:11:51.652
And I said to myself,
"That guy is gonna win."

1622
01:11:53.274 --> 01:11:57.313
- The American dream is dead.

1623
01:11:58.900 --> 01:12:01.627
- [Audience Member]
Bring it back.

1624
01:12:01.662 --> 01:12:04.354
- But if I get
elected president,

1625
01:12:04.389 --> 01:12:09.394
I will bring it back bigger
and better and stronger

1626
01:12:11.396 --> 01:12:13.156
than ever before

1627
01:12:13.190 --> 01:12:17.160
and we will make
America great again.

1628
01:12:17.194 --> 01:12:18.920
Thank you, thank you very much.

1629
01:12:18.955 --> 01:12:20.094
[crowd cheering]

1630
01:12:20.128 --> 01:12:21.820
- When the psychological
shit hits the fan,

1631
01:12:21.854 --> 01:12:23.166
if you'll pardon the expression,

1632
01:12:23.200 --> 01:12:25.927
and when people are economically

1633
01:12:25.962 --> 01:12:28.861
and psychologically insecure,

1634
01:12:28.896 --> 01:12:33.901
when somebody comes along
and confidently proclaims

1635
01:12:34.626 --> 01:12:36.352
in very simple terms

1636
01:12:36.386 --> 01:12:41.357
that they will keep them safe,
they will make them prosper,

1637
01:12:42.772 --> 01:12:45.878
they will bring back
the good old days,

1638
01:12:45.913 --> 01:12:48.950
that's the psychological hook.

1639
01:12:48.985 --> 01:12:52.678
If you look at it from
a detached perspective,

1640
01:12:52.713 --> 01:12:54.439
we're really at a crossroads,

1641
01:12:54.473 --> 01:12:57.959
the impending
environmental apocalypse

1642
01:12:57.994 --> 01:13:01.791
juxtaposed with simmering
ethnic tensions,

1643
01:13:01.825 --> 01:13:05.933
juxtaposed with rampant
economic inequality

1644
01:13:05.967 --> 01:13:10.972
and here we have Trump
magnifying all of
those difficulties.

1645
01:13:13.354 --> 01:13:15.770
What Trump also did masterfully

1646
01:13:15.805 --> 01:13:19.636
was to take nonexistent problems

1647
01:13:19.671 --> 01:13:22.915
and render them
potentially traumatic

1648
01:13:22.950 --> 01:13:26.229
by grotesquely
overemphasizing the danger.

1649
01:13:26.263 --> 01:13:28.438
- Look at the deal
he's making with Iran.

1650
01:13:28.473 --> 01:13:31.407
- Once you get on
board psychologically,

1651
01:13:31.441 --> 01:13:36.412
once you commit to a
demagogueish ideologue,

1652
01:13:37.343 --> 01:13:40.623
that puts up a fact proof screen

1653
01:13:40.657 --> 01:13:42.970
between you and the world.

1654
01:13:43.004 --> 01:13:45.593
Once you are fully on board,

1655
01:13:45.628 --> 01:13:50.633
there's no rational argument
that will alter your opinion.

1656
01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:56.121
There is always a tendency
for charismatic leaders

1657
01:13:56.155 --> 01:14:00.263
to bring out the tribal
nature of humans,

1658
01:14:00.297 --> 01:14:05.302
it is very easy to lapse into
an us versus them mentality.

1659
01:14:08.513 --> 01:14:11.792
Rationality will
lose every time.

1660
01:14:12.827 --> 01:14:14.864
- Where is the red line?

1661
01:14:14.898 --> 01:14:16.452
Where do you say,

1662
01:14:16.486 --> 01:14:18.695
"Okay, hey, No mas, I'm not
supporting this guy anymore?"

1663
01:14:18.730 --> 01:14:19.972
Where is the line?

1664
01:14:20.007 --> 01:14:21.491
So, it's obviously been
crossed by many people

1665
01:14:21.526 --> 01:14:25.495
but for me the line would be
when you look at our documents

1666
01:14:25.530 --> 01:14:27.117
and you look at
our constitution,

1667
01:14:27.152 --> 01:14:32.157
North Korea, Russia, Venezuela
has the exact same language,

1668
01:14:32.985 --> 01:14:34.470
go look at their constitution,

1669
01:14:34.504 --> 01:14:37.818
they have the same flowery
language related to human rights

1670
01:14:37.852 --> 01:14:39.405
and all of that stuff

1671
01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:43.340
but what make us unique
is the checks and balances

1672
01:14:43.375 --> 01:14:45.619
and the power diffusion

1673
01:14:45.653 --> 01:14:48.000
in the construction
of the government.

1674
01:14:48.035 --> 01:14:51.728
So if Trump starts
to trample on that,

1675
01:14:51.763 --> 01:14:54.386
then I'm gonna turn
on him, have to.

1676
01:14:54.420 --> 01:14:58.632
You can't disrupt a
243-year experiment

1677
01:14:58.666 --> 01:15:00.599
for one dude's personality.

1678
01:15:03.913 --> 01:15:05.086
- It has now been a week

1679
01:15:05.121 --> 01:15:06.640
since the Centers
for Disease Control

1680
01:15:06.674 --> 01:15:09.263
confirmed the first community
transmission of coronavirus

1681
01:15:09.297 --> 01:15:10.747
in the United States.

1682
01:15:10.782 --> 01:15:12.438
- We all have personalities.

1683
01:15:12.473 --> 01:15:14.751
Some people are more dependent,

1684
01:15:15.856 --> 01:15:18.168
some people are more aggressive.

1685
01:15:18.203 --> 01:15:19.549
It becomes pathological

1686
01:15:19.584 --> 01:15:22.034
when you see the whole
world through a screen

1687
01:15:22.069 --> 01:15:26.073
that makes everything
fit your need.

1688
01:15:27.419 --> 01:15:32.079
- Now the Democrats are
politicizing the coronavirus.

1689
01:15:33.494 --> 01:15:35.254
- [Lance] It's not just
being manipulative,

1690
01:15:35.289 --> 01:15:39.431
it's a fundamental inability
to not be that way.

1691
01:15:40.812 --> 01:15:44.609
- This big, vast land of ours,
this great country of ours,

1692
01:15:44.643 --> 01:15:46.542
we have 240 cases.

1693
01:15:46.576 --> 01:15:49.027
Most of those people
are gonna be fine.

1694
01:15:49.061 --> 01:15:51.305
- Donald Trump doesn't
care about experts.

1695
01:15:51.339 --> 01:15:52.548
- [Journalist] Can
you also weigh in

1696
01:15:52.582 --> 01:15:54.411
on this issue of
hydroxychloroquine?

1697
01:15:54.446 --> 01:15:55.689
What do you think about this

1698
01:15:55.723 --> 01:15:56.931
and what is the
medical evidence?

1699
01:15:56.966 --> 01:15:58.208
- How many times I've
answered that question?

1700
01:15:58.243 --> 01:15:59.037
Maybe 15.

1701
01:15:59.071 --> 01:15:59.865
- [Journalist] Doctor.

1702
01:15:59.900 --> 01:16:00.866
- 15 times.

1703
01:16:00.901 --> 01:16:02.316
- He only cares about people

1704
01:16:02.350 --> 01:16:04.387
who will tell him what
he already wants to hear.

1705
01:16:04.421 --> 01:16:06.872
He makes himself ignorant
about almost everything

1706
01:16:06.907 --> 01:16:09.599
because he only wants to
hear what he wants to hear.

1707
01:16:09.634 --> 01:16:11.083
- We have it so
well under control.

1708
01:16:11.118 --> 01:16:12.809
I mean, view this
the same as the flu.

1709
01:16:12.844 --> 01:16:14.086
When somebody sneezes,

1710
01:16:14.121 --> 01:16:17.434
I mean, I try and bail
out as much as possible

1711
01:16:17.469 --> 01:16:21.093
and I haven't touched my
face in weeks, in weeks.

1712
01:16:21.128 --> 01:16:21.922
- [Journalist] Mr.
President, the--

1713
01:16:21.956 --> 01:16:23.475
- I miss it.

1714
01:16:23.509 --> 01:16:26.098
- And one of the most
devastating things
he's been doing

1715
01:16:26.133 --> 01:16:31.069
is to emotionally
train Americans not
to care about others,

1716
01:16:31.103 --> 01:16:32.933
to extinguish compassion

1717
01:16:32.967 --> 01:16:35.314
and to extinguish
kindness in themselves.

1718
01:16:35.349 --> 01:16:37.351
He terms it being tough.

1719
01:16:37.385 --> 01:16:40.596
- He is giving people
a license to hate,

1720
01:16:40.630 --> 01:16:44.185
to provide a source of anger,
to go after each other,

1721
01:16:45.221 --> 01:16:47.499
how are we all tolerating this?

1722
01:16:47.533 --> 01:16:50.778
Loyalty is not blind obedience

1723
01:16:50.813 --> 01:16:52.849
unless you're supporting
a demagogue, okay?

1724
01:16:52.884 --> 01:16:55.680
And so you don't wanna ever
be like that in your life.

1725
01:16:55.714 --> 01:16:58.268
- Relax, we're doing great.

1726
01:16:58.303 --> 01:17:00.995
- [Reporter] The DOW is
now down nearly 900 points.

1727
01:17:01.030 --> 01:17:02.652
- [New Anchor] Economists
have been ramping up

1728
01:17:02.687 --> 01:17:03.929
their projections.

1729
01:17:03.964 --> 01:17:05.828
- [Reporter] The virus
spreading explosively

1730
01:17:05.862 --> 01:17:07.968
like quote, a bomb.

1731
01:17:08.002 --> 01:17:11.799
- To be president, you have
to exercise good judgment

1732
01:17:11.834 --> 01:17:15.527
on behalf of the American
people for their interests.

1733
01:17:15.561 --> 01:17:17.667
- They have to go back to work,
our country has to go back,

1734
01:17:17.702 --> 01:17:19.876
our country is based on that.

1735
01:17:21.050 --> 01:17:23.569
I think it's gonna
happen pretty quickly.

1736
01:17:23.604 --> 01:17:26.849
- It's got nothing to do with
the safety of the people,

1737
01:17:26.883 --> 01:17:27.953
it's about him.

1738
01:17:27.988 --> 01:17:30.680
It's not about the country.

1739
01:17:30.715 --> 01:17:32.855
- He spent a lot of
time on Twitter today

1740
01:17:32.889 --> 01:17:36.341
boasting about the
excellent television ratings

1741
01:17:36.375 --> 01:17:38.861
his news conferences
have received lately.

1742
01:17:38.895 --> 01:17:41.967
- We have Monday Night
Football-type ratings

1743
01:17:42.002 --> 01:17:45.591
and that these are
like "Bachelor" finale.

1744
01:17:45.626 --> 01:17:49.181
- He is not fit because
he is unable to think,

1745
01:17:49.216 --> 01:17:51.252
he can only react and attack.

1746
01:17:51.287 --> 01:17:52.737
- What do you say to Americans

1747
01:17:52.771 --> 01:17:55.360
who are watching you
right now who are scared?

1748
01:17:55.394 --> 01:17:57.086
- I say that you're
a terrible reporter.

1749
01:17:57.120 --> 01:17:59.398
That's really bad reporting.

1750
01:17:59.433 --> 01:18:04.438
- He is unfit to be president
because he cannot think.

1751
01:18:05.611 --> 01:18:06.820
- [Reporter] The U.S.
is surpassing Italy

1752
01:18:06.854 --> 01:18:08.718
as the country with
the most fatalities.

1753
01:18:08.753 --> 01:18:10.720
- [News Anchor] He says he
wants to reopen the country

1754
01:18:10.755 --> 01:18:12.066
with a big bang.

1755
01:18:12.101 --> 01:18:15.621
- Pursuing truth is to the mind

1756
01:18:15.656 --> 01:18:17.623
like food is to the body.

1757
01:18:18.763 --> 01:18:22.594
Without pursuing truth,
your psyche starves

1758
01:18:22.628 --> 01:18:26.736
and Trump's psyche has been
starving for a long time.

1759
01:18:26.771 --> 01:18:28.462
- [Journalist] Say, sir,
what metrics you will use

1760
01:18:28.496 --> 01:18:29.877
to make that decision?

1761
01:18:29.912 --> 01:18:31.568
- The metrics right here.

1762
01:18:31.603 --> 01:18:36.435
If we can hold that down
between 100,000 and 200,000,

1763
01:18:36.470 --> 01:18:39.024
we all together have
done a very good job.

1764
01:18:39.059 --> 01:18:41.302
I am very proud to
be your president.

1765
01:18:41.337 --> 01:18:42.234
Thank you very much.

1766
01:18:42.269 --> 01:18:44.443
Thank you, everybody, thank you.

1767
01:18:44.478 --> 01:18:46.100
- He's detached from reality.

1768
01:18:48.585 --> 01:18:50.070
I mean, this is just demented.

1769
01:18:52.831 --> 01:18:56.007
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1770
01:18:59.838 --> 01:19:03.773
- The founding fathers always
knew that a king-like tyrant

1771
01:19:03.808 --> 01:19:06.742
would try to rule as
a personal dictator

1772
01:19:06.776 --> 01:19:08.916
and use the powers
of the presidency

1773
01:19:08.951 --> 01:19:11.056
to enhance or enrich himself,

1774
01:19:11.091 --> 01:19:15.095
but they never foresaw
the senate the judiciary

1775
01:19:15.129 --> 01:19:17.925
might completely abdicate
their responsibilities

1776
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:19.099
and go along with that.

1777
01:19:20.341 --> 01:19:22.758
- The natural tendency
of history in many ways

1778
01:19:22.792 --> 01:19:26.520
is towards greater
liberalism and altruism

1779
01:19:26.554 --> 01:19:30.455
but human nature has
these competing forces,

1780
01:19:30.489 --> 01:19:31.801
and so what we're seeing now

1781
01:19:31.836 --> 01:19:36.288
is this amazing regression
from where we were

1782
01:19:36.323 --> 01:19:39.533
we are literally going
backwards, I think,
a century or two.

1783
01:19:39.567 --> 01:19:42.985
We all have to do
everything that we can do

1784
01:19:43.019 --> 01:19:48.024
because our society is at
risk and we could lose it all,

1785
01:19:49.819 --> 01:19:53.650
we could lose this grand
experiment in democracy.

1786
01:19:53.685 --> 01:19:55.998
I think we're more
than halfway there,

1787
01:19:56.032 --> 01:19:58.483
I think people don't
realize how far this

1788
01:19:58.517 --> 01:20:00.347
has actually progressed.

1789
01:20:01.831 --> 01:20:06.008
- When you're in a period
of rising authoritarianism,

1790
01:20:06.042 --> 01:20:08.665
it's easy to get exhausted

1791
01:20:08.700 --> 01:20:10.633
because the news comes at you

1792
01:20:10.667 --> 01:20:15.017
like bullets from a
machine gun, all of it bad.

1793
01:20:15.051 --> 01:20:18.227
One of the best weapons
against authoritarianism

1794
01:20:18.261 --> 01:20:20.539
is protest in the street,

1795
01:20:20.574 --> 01:20:22.024
and protests are key

1796
01:20:22.058 --> 01:20:25.027
because not only does the
leader see that he's unpopular,

1797
01:20:25.061 --> 01:20:26.545
but even more important,

1798
01:20:26.580 --> 01:20:31.240
his allies see that the public
is actually against them.

1799
01:20:33.587 --> 01:20:35.278
- Think of what
you tell your kids.

1800
01:20:37.591 --> 01:20:38.972
You tell them to be honest.

1801
01:20:39.006 --> 01:20:40.870
You tell them to tell the truth.

1802
01:20:40.905 --> 01:20:45.875
You tell them, don't think
of yourself, don't brag.

1803
01:20:47.256 --> 01:20:48.809
don't trash other people
to make yourself feel good.

1804
01:20:51.087 --> 01:20:52.778
How can you support
Donald Trump?

1805
01:20:53.745 --> 01:20:55.333
How can you support somebody

1806
01:20:55.367 --> 01:20:58.923
who essentially violates
all of the things

1807
01:20:58.957 --> 01:21:00.476
that we want them to follow?

1808
01:21:01.546 --> 01:21:02.409
It makes no sense.

1809
01:21:03.651 --> 01:21:07.034
It's corrosive for them,
it's corrosive for you,

1810
01:21:07.069 --> 01:21:08.794
and it's corrosive
for the country.

1811
01:21:10.382 --> 01:21:13.696
- This is a phenomenal,
phenomenal country.

1812
01:21:13.730 --> 01:21:17.803
It's one of the most unique
historical experiments

1813
01:21:17.838 --> 01:21:20.979
in the 5,500 years
of recorded history.

1814
01:21:22.153 --> 01:21:25.466
We have to figure out
a way to help people

1815
01:21:25.501 --> 01:21:29.091
and bring them into the
new world of globalization,

1816
01:21:29.125 --> 01:21:31.610
they have to feel
like they're part

1817
01:21:31.645 --> 01:21:34.717
of the aspirational
success of America

1818
01:21:34.751 --> 01:21:36.063
that our parents felt.

1819
01:21:37.858 --> 01:21:41.413
- I believe at our best
that we have the capacity

1820
01:21:41.448 --> 01:21:45.417
to radically
reconceptualize who we are

1821
01:21:45.452 --> 01:21:49.387
and the extent to which
that we can accept

1822
01:21:49.421 --> 01:21:52.045
our commonality as human beings,

1823
01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:55.393
I think therein lies the key

1824
01:21:55.427 --> 01:21:59.155
because then there's
no one left to hate

1825
01:21:59.190 --> 01:22:01.675
and that's not gonna
stop us from hating

1826
01:22:01.709 --> 01:22:03.090
but as Ernest Becker put it,

1827
01:22:03.125 --> 01:22:05.921
maybe we can hate
stuff that we should

1828
01:22:05.955 --> 01:22:07.923
like poverty and injustice,

1829
01:22:07.957 --> 01:22:11.236
and maybe we can then
use righteous indignation

1830
01:22:11.271 --> 01:22:13.652
to everybody's best interest.

1831
01:22:13.687 --> 01:22:16.276
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