1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,208 --> 00:00:10,125 MAN: In 2016 we faced an attack of a new kind. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:10,875 --> 00:00:12,834 The Russians hacked democracy. 5 00:00:12,917 --> 00:00:14,166 ♪ (MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 6 00:00:14,250 --> 00:00:15,917 MAN 2: The Russian interference only worked 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,709 because America was a vulnerable target. 8 00:00:19,083 --> 00:00:20,250 MAN 3: In the alleged collusion... 9 00:00:20,542 --> 00:00:23,834 These allegations are just absolutely preposterous. 10 00:00:24,083 --> 00:00:26,750 Of course Russians preferred Trump because Trump said 11 00:00:26,834 --> 00:00:27,834 that he preferred Russians. 12 00:00:28,208 --> 00:00:30,250 (SPEAKING IN RUSSIAN) 13 00:00:31,417 --> 00:00:33,583 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 14 00:00:41,917 --> 00:00:44,041 [exciting music] 15 00:00:44,125 --> 00:00:47,291 announcer: The following is a presentation of HBO Sports. 16 00:00:54,125 --> 00:00:57,041 [solemn music] 17 00:00:57,125 --> 00:01:03,667 ♪ ♪ 18 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:05,333 - My name is Craig Carton. 19 00:01:05,417 --> 00:01:07,083 I have lived through the most public, 20 00:01:07,166 --> 00:01:10,709 vicious, self-inflicted fall from grace. 21 00:01:10,792 --> 00:01:13,375 I was the cohost of "Boomer and Carton," 22 00:01:13,458 --> 00:01:16,375 one of the most successful sports radio shows in America. 23 00:01:16,458 --> 00:01:22,041 ♪ ♪ 24 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:23,875 I fought my way to the top, 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,750 and for ten years, I had the dream job. 26 00:01:27,834 --> 00:01:29,625 But it was never enough. 27 00:01:29,709 --> 00:01:31,458 Never enough to make me happy. 28 00:01:31,542 --> 00:01:33,250 Never enough to chase away the demons 29 00:01:33,333 --> 00:01:35,041 that have haunted me since childhood. 30 00:01:35,125 --> 00:01:40,917 ♪ ♪ 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 I had it all. 32 00:01:42,083 --> 00:01:44,583 The career. The beautiful country house. 33 00:01:44,667 --> 00:01:47,250 I made more than $2 million a year. 34 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:49,625 And now, it's all gone. 35 00:01:49,709 --> 00:01:52,667 ♪ ♪ 36 00:01:52,750 --> 00:01:55,250 I've hurt my wife and kids deeply, 37 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:56,458 and I've promised to shield them 38 00:01:56,542 --> 00:01:58,917 from the public spotlight that's on me. 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,208 But I am going to tell you my story 40 00:02:01,291 --> 00:02:04,083 of how stupidity, bad decisions, 41 00:02:04,166 --> 00:02:07,583 and a secret addiction cost me everything, 42 00:02:07,667 --> 00:02:10,834 including the one thing I took for granted: 43 00:02:10,917 --> 00:02:13,458 my freedom. 44 00:02:13,542 --> 00:02:14,917 [gate slams] 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:22,000 ♪ ♪ 46 00:02:28,750 --> 00:02:30,417 [radio tunes] 47 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:31,959 - Cross Island Parkway northbound left lanes 48 00:02:32,041 --> 00:02:34,291 locked up with a crash by the Grand Central. 49 00:02:34,375 --> 00:02:36,000 - Offer ends March 29th. 50 00:02:36,083 --> 00:02:37,500 Terms and restrictions-- 51 00:02:37,583 --> 00:02:38,750 - With great offers on everything 52 00:02:38,834 --> 00:02:40,583 from airfare to accommoda-- 53 00:02:40,667 --> 00:02:43,625 [Jane's Addiction's "Stop!"] 54 00:02:43,709 --> 00:02:44,834 [rock music] 55 00:02:44,917 --> 00:02:47,959 - It's Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton on The FAN. 56 00:02:48,041 --> 00:02:50,583 - ♪ Here we go ♪ 57 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:52,667 ♪ Go ♪ 58 00:02:52,750 --> 00:02:54,333 - Welcome, welcome, welcome. 59 00:02:54,417 --> 00:02:56,709 Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton on The FAN 60 00:02:56,792 --> 00:02:59,000 and, of course, worldwide. 61 00:02:59,083 --> 00:03:01,834 September 4, 2007, 62 00:03:01,917 --> 00:03:04,667 was the very first show for "Boomer and Carton," 63 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:06,542 and ten years later, 64 00:03:06,625 --> 00:03:09,208 it was the number one most listened to morning show 65 00:03:09,291 --> 00:03:10,709 in New York and in America. 66 00:03:10,792 --> 00:03:12,542 - ♪ The world ♪ 67 00:03:12,625 --> 00:03:15,166 ♪ Is loaded ♪ 68 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:17,291 - There you go. - [laughs] 69 00:03:17,375 --> 00:03:18,959 - What am I doing with my life? 70 00:03:19,041 --> 00:03:20,667 - ♪ No ♪ 71 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:22,709 ♪ One ♪ 72 00:03:22,792 --> 00:03:25,458 - "Boomer and Carton" became a sensation. 73 00:03:25,542 --> 00:03:28,834 Boomer had the big name, but Carton had the skills. 74 00:03:28,917 --> 00:03:30,041 He had that magic. 75 00:03:30,125 --> 00:03:31,875 Now sometimes, he'd go a little too far, 76 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:35,208 but he could really make a show out of nothing. 77 00:03:35,291 --> 00:03:37,709 - We're doing what manly men do. 78 00:03:37,792 --> 00:03:39,291 We're exfoliating. 79 00:03:39,375 --> 00:03:41,041 We have cucumbers on our eyes 80 00:03:41,125 --> 00:03:42,250 and we're picking football games. 81 00:03:42,333 --> 00:03:43,333 Hit it, boys. 82 00:03:43,417 --> 00:03:45,583 - I have never met anybody like him in my life. 83 00:03:45,667 --> 00:03:49,417 He is like a cross between a Martian 84 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,583 and, like, Don Rickles. 85 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:53,417 - So LeBron James being a loser, 86 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:56,667 a big choke-arse, a big donut, a big nothing. 87 00:03:56,750 --> 00:03:59,542 - At 6:00, when the music rolled 88 00:03:59,625 --> 00:04:01,500 and the light went on, 89 00:04:01,583 --> 00:04:03,542 something just overcame him, an energy 90 00:04:03,625 --> 00:04:05,542 a passion for what he was doing. 91 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:07,500 - I win. Yes! 92 00:04:07,583 --> 00:04:08,500 Whoo! 93 00:04:08,583 --> 00:04:11,083 [laughter] 94 00:04:11,166 --> 00:04:13,208 [as Sylvester Stallone] Adrienne! 95 00:04:13,291 --> 00:04:15,000 I did it! 96 00:04:15,083 --> 00:04:18,417 - In terms of morning sports hosts, 97 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:21,458 I would put him at the top of the list. 98 00:04:21,542 --> 00:04:23,959 I couldn't even think of a close second. 99 00:04:24,041 --> 00:04:25,667 - Jerry, good morning. How you doing, buddy? 100 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:27,417 - Craig, don't ever lose your sense of humor. 101 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:29,625 - I never will. I've seen myself naked. 102 00:04:29,709 --> 00:04:32,333 - Craig comes from a line of shock jocks. 103 00:04:32,417 --> 00:04:35,125 You know, he's sort of happy to portray himself 104 00:04:35,208 --> 00:04:36,542 as a bit of an asshole. 105 00:04:36,625 --> 00:04:38,959 - He got a reaction, no matter what you thought of him. 106 00:04:39,041 --> 00:04:41,375 You wanted to throw stuff at your radio, 107 00:04:41,458 --> 00:04:43,125 or you wanted to be one of his gang. 108 00:04:43,208 --> 00:04:46,250 - It really was a "love him or hate him" relationship. 109 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:47,750 - If you wanna go into it, let's go into it, 110 00:04:47,834 --> 00:04:49,750 but not today, because I got other people who wanna talk 111 00:04:49,834 --> 00:04:50,750 and you're boring me. 112 00:04:50,834 --> 00:04:51,750 Good-bye. 113 00:04:51,834 --> 00:04:53,125 - I mean, he had the will to do some stuff 114 00:04:53,208 --> 00:04:55,000 that was just outrageous. 115 00:04:55,083 --> 00:04:57,000 I mean, he walked across the Brooklyn Bridge 116 00:04:57,083 --> 00:05:00,000 in a Speedo with a sausage in his pants. 117 00:05:00,083 --> 00:05:01,792 I mean, what are we talking about? 118 00:05:01,875 --> 00:05:03,792 - ♪ No ♪ 119 00:05:03,875 --> 00:05:04,792 ♪ One ♪ 120 00:05:04,875 --> 00:05:06,458 - This business is about ratings and revenue, 121 00:05:06,542 --> 00:05:09,500 and Craig Carton has proven he can get both. 122 00:05:09,583 --> 00:05:12,875 - ♪ Stop ♪ 123 00:05:14,875 --> 00:05:17,625 - 6:03 a.m. 124 00:05:17,709 --> 00:05:19,500 Good morning, everybody! 125 00:05:19,583 --> 00:05:23,583 Boomer Esiason, Craig Carton on The FAN. 126 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:25,458 As you wake up this morning, 127 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:27,959 the New York Jets have been knocked out 128 00:05:28,041 --> 00:05:29,667 of the post season, 129 00:05:29,750 --> 00:05:31,625 but in addition to that, 130 00:05:31,709 --> 00:05:33,917 what else do you need to see 131 00:05:34,041 --> 00:05:37,291 to understand that Mike Woodson can't coach? 132 00:05:37,375 --> 00:05:39,625 On the radio, I'm a big mouth, I'm loud, I'm obnoxious, 133 00:05:39,709 --> 00:05:42,333 it's boisterous, and I'm successful, 134 00:05:42,417 --> 00:05:44,959 and I'm gonna throw that in everyone's face, 135 00:05:45,041 --> 00:05:47,000 because that's the type of show I did. 136 00:05:47,083 --> 00:05:49,667 You have 500 other choices on the radio 137 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:51,041 and guess what you do. 138 00:05:51,125 --> 00:05:52,542 You listen to me. 139 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:55,375 'Cause you can't live without me. 140 00:05:55,458 --> 00:05:58,000 - Craig's on-air personality is an act. 141 00:05:58,083 --> 00:06:02,166 It's a very polished, well-rehearsed act. 142 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:03,875 [reflective music] 143 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:07,792 - He was funny, he was edgy, he was into the show, 144 00:06:07,875 --> 00:06:10,166 but at the end of the day, when the show was off, 145 00:06:10,250 --> 00:06:12,500 he became one of the nicest people 146 00:06:12,583 --> 00:06:14,041 you ever wanna meet. 147 00:06:14,125 --> 00:06:15,834 - There are a lot of different angles to that guy. 148 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:18,208 There's Craig, who is very thoughtful, 149 00:06:18,291 --> 00:06:21,542 very kind, very timid, very shy, 150 00:06:21,625 --> 00:06:22,500 and then there's Carton. 151 00:06:22,583 --> 00:06:23,709 - You have to listen with your ears, 152 00:06:23,792 --> 00:06:25,375 not with your fat face. 153 00:06:25,458 --> 00:06:27,000 - And he's an asshole. 154 00:06:27,083 --> 00:06:29,667 - But off the air, he's kind. 155 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:31,542 He's generous. 156 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:34,041 - He also cared about charities that he worked with. 157 00:06:34,125 --> 00:06:36,000 You know, fire department, police department, 158 00:06:36,083 --> 00:06:38,208 the 9/11 first responders. 159 00:06:38,291 --> 00:06:39,834 - You're the brave men and women that show up, 160 00:06:39,917 --> 00:06:42,041 and we're indebted to you for doing that. 161 00:06:42,125 --> 00:06:44,583 - He has compassion for kids who are misunderstood, 162 00:06:44,667 --> 00:06:46,709 'cause I think that's how he sees himself 163 00:06:46,792 --> 00:06:47,709 when he was growing up. 164 00:06:47,792 --> 00:06:50,166 - When I say "camp," you say "Carton." 165 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:51,375 Camp. all: Carton! 166 00:06:51,458 --> 00:06:55,417 - Camp. all: Carton! 167 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:56,542 - I love Craig. 168 00:06:56,625 --> 00:06:59,750 I owe a lot to him for our success on radio. 169 00:06:59,834 --> 00:07:01,083 We were a team. 170 00:07:01,166 --> 00:07:03,250 We had the world by the balls, man. 171 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:04,458 We had built the brand, 172 00:07:04,542 --> 00:07:07,625 and the brand was unbelievably popular, 173 00:07:07,709 --> 00:07:09,458 and he went off the wagon 174 00:07:09,542 --> 00:07:11,417 or however you wanna describe it 175 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:15,250 and just, you know, ruined what we all had. 176 00:07:15,333 --> 00:07:18,250 [somber music] 177 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:25,333 ♪ ♪ 178 00:07:28,125 --> 00:07:31,125 - July 6, 2019. 179 00:07:31,208 --> 00:07:33,583 Day 20. 180 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:35,792 This is my first month in prison, 181 00:07:35,875 --> 00:07:38,709 and I'm keeping this journal as a part of rehab. 182 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:43,125 ♪ ♪ 183 00:07:43,208 --> 00:07:44,834 I'm just another prisoner, 184 00:07:44,917 --> 00:07:46,083 and everything I own fits 185 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:49,792 into this 7 foot by 7 foot cubicle. 186 00:07:49,875 --> 00:07:51,792 Lunch is at 10:00 in the morning, 187 00:07:51,875 --> 00:07:54,667 and dinner at 3:00 in the afternoon. 188 00:07:54,750 --> 00:07:58,125 Every meal seems to be served with rice and beans. 189 00:07:58,208 --> 00:08:01,125 ♪ ♪ 190 00:08:01,208 --> 00:08:04,625 One wrong move here and they send you to the hole, 191 00:08:04,709 --> 00:08:08,458 solitary confinement in the big house next door. 192 00:08:08,542 --> 00:08:11,166 Lewisburg is a notorious prison. 193 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:14,500 Jimmy Hoffa and John Gotti did time here. 194 00:08:17,041 --> 00:08:18,667 Ever since I was a kid, 195 00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:21,333 my greatest fear was being sent to prison. 196 00:08:21,417 --> 00:08:23,709 My dad once had me locked in a cell 197 00:08:23,792 --> 00:08:26,375 in our local police station for a couple of minutes. 198 00:08:26,458 --> 00:08:28,500 That was only a prank. 199 00:08:28,583 --> 00:08:30,542 This is all too real. 200 00:08:30,625 --> 00:08:34,458 ♪ ♪ 201 00:08:34,542 --> 00:08:36,166 [projector whirring] 202 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:39,166 [Emerson, Lake & Palmer's "From the Beginning"] 203 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:42,208 [bluesy acoustic rock] 204 00:08:42,291 --> 00:08:46,917 ♪ ♪ 205 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,500 From the outside looking in, 206 00:08:48,583 --> 00:08:52,208 we had a very basic, typical, middle-class family. 207 00:08:52,291 --> 00:08:54,333 I had an older brother 208 00:08:54,417 --> 00:08:56,000 and a younger sister. 209 00:08:56,083 --> 00:08:59,041 - ♪ From the beginning ♪ 210 00:08:59,125 --> 00:09:00,542 - My dad's name was Paul. 211 00:09:00,625 --> 00:09:02,208 He was an orthopedic surgeon, 212 00:09:02,291 --> 00:09:04,875 had a very small practice in Yonkers, New York. 213 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:06,375 My mother's name was Bobbi. 214 00:09:06,458 --> 00:09:07,792 She used to be a registered nurse, 215 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:09,417 then became a real estate agent. 216 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:13,375 ♪ ♪ 217 00:09:13,458 --> 00:09:14,750 I was a good athlete 218 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:16,542 and I had my core group 219 00:09:16,625 --> 00:09:19,041 of, you know, five or six buddies. 220 00:09:19,125 --> 00:09:21,166 You know, we did what normal kids 221 00:09:21,250 --> 00:09:22,709 in the '70s and '80s did. 222 00:09:22,792 --> 00:09:25,250 Play outside as much as possible. 223 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:27,709 We'd play cards on Friday nights. 224 00:09:27,792 --> 00:09:29,375 I got Intellivision. 225 00:09:29,458 --> 00:09:30,834 It was a gaming console 226 00:09:30,917 --> 00:09:33,333 which had blackjack and craps on it. 227 00:09:33,417 --> 00:09:36,583 I turned that into a living room casino, 228 00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:38,792 and that came to an end when a kid's father came 229 00:09:38,875 --> 00:09:41,083 to our front door, knocked on it. 230 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:42,208 He goes, "With all due respect, 231 00:09:42,291 --> 00:09:43,417 "if you just look in your backyard, 232 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:44,750 my son's bike is there." 233 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:46,583 "Why is your son's bike here?" 234 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:49,834 "He lost it to your son in a game of blackjack." 235 00:09:49,917 --> 00:09:53,834 I mean, I was a middle schooler at that time. 236 00:09:53,917 --> 00:09:55,750 Now, I know my parents love me, 237 00:09:55,834 --> 00:09:58,291 but they just never said it. 238 00:09:58,375 --> 00:10:01,917 I didn't think that my voice mattered, 239 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,417 so I was always fighting for approval, 240 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:06,917 and I grew up, 241 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,750 you know, very protective of my emotions. 242 00:10:10,834 --> 00:10:14,750 I was also hiding from some childhood trauma, 243 00:10:14,834 --> 00:10:18,417 demons I had mentally, emotionally, 244 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,667 and that goes back to something 245 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:23,083 I didn't tell anyone about. 246 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:26,625 Something I clearly built up bad coping habits 247 00:10:26,709 --> 00:10:28,792 to get through it. 248 00:10:28,875 --> 00:10:30,792 Living a life of secrets 249 00:10:30,875 --> 00:10:35,333 and lying and protecting myself 250 00:10:35,417 --> 00:10:37,792 really became my salvation 251 00:10:37,875 --> 00:10:40,583 and my life preserver. 252 00:10:40,667 --> 00:10:43,417 And I've been doing it ever since. 253 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:46,417 [somber music] 254 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:48,959 ♪ ♪ 255 00:10:49,041 --> 00:10:51,917 When I left home at 18 for college, 256 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,792 I got into Syracuse 257 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:57,208 and was enrolled there in the fall of 1987. 258 00:10:57,291 --> 00:10:59,291 I majored in broadcast journalism. 259 00:10:59,375 --> 00:11:01,125 Good evening and welcome to "Sports Look Tonight." 260 00:11:01,208 --> 00:11:03,166 I'm Craig Carton, and tonight, we'll take a look 261 00:11:03,250 --> 00:11:05,583 at how the Celtics are doing without Bird. 262 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:07,583 I got very little experience, 263 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:11,125 so I immersed myself in being on the radio, 264 00:11:11,208 --> 00:11:12,834 and I fell in love with it. 265 00:11:12,917 --> 00:11:16,166 Radio allowed me to be whoever I wanted to be. 266 00:11:16,250 --> 00:11:19,000 It gave me an outlet to be opinionated, 267 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:22,166 to be boisterous, to be loud, to be confident, 268 00:11:22,250 --> 00:11:24,166 all the things I really wasn't 269 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:26,375 in my interpersonal relationships, 270 00:11:26,458 --> 00:11:28,875 so I basically was able to create 271 00:11:28,959 --> 00:11:31,875 an on-air version of myself that I liked. 272 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:38,709 ♪ ♪ 273 00:11:39,709 --> 00:11:41,000 When you turned on a microphone 274 00:11:41,083 --> 00:11:43,834 in front of my mouth, I could just do it, 275 00:11:43,917 --> 00:11:44,875 and that's what I did. 276 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:46,959 - WGR with Craig Carton. 277 00:11:47,041 --> 00:11:48,500 - Yeah! 278 00:11:48,583 --> 00:11:49,834 The weekend is back. 279 00:11:49,917 --> 00:11:51,709 [radio tunes] Here on 3WE. 280 00:11:51,792 --> 00:11:53,166 A little bit less than a half hour to go. 281 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:55,500 "Sportsline" and you till 7:00. 282 00:11:55,583 --> 00:11:57,709 Craig Carton-- [radio tunes] 283 00:11:57,792 --> 00:11:59,667 Sports radio, 610 WIP. 284 00:11:59,750 --> 00:12:01,375 Well, a lot of stuff going on this morning. 285 00:12:01,458 --> 00:12:02,375 [radio tunes] 286 00:12:02,458 --> 00:12:03,500 It's a radio station in Denver. 287 00:12:03,583 --> 00:12:04,500 You're on the air. 288 00:12:04,583 --> 00:12:06,041 We're doing a search for Busch 289 00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:07,667 and we're wondering if you have Busch. 290 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:08,875 - Is this a joke? both: No. 291 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:10,875 - We're doing a search for Busch. 292 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:12,667 [radio tunes] 293 00:12:12,750 --> 00:12:14,709 It's called a radio show. 294 00:12:14,792 --> 00:12:16,917 I always viewed it as that. It's a show. 295 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,500 So I'm putting on a performance. 296 00:12:18,583 --> 00:12:20,000 Doesn't get any weaker than that. 297 00:12:20,083 --> 00:12:21,667 Lethargic. Pathetic. 298 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:24,041 I mean, if I had a thesaurus, I'd give you ten other words 299 00:12:24,125 --> 00:12:26,500 to describe how the Cavs played yesterday. 300 00:12:26,583 --> 00:12:29,709 I wanted to be the guy that had the balls to say 301 00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:33,083 what most people are thinking without fear of retribution. 302 00:12:33,166 --> 00:12:35,625 [upbeat music] 303 00:12:35,709 --> 00:12:38,083 - He's shown in every market that he's been in 304 00:12:38,166 --> 00:12:41,417 that he gets ratings, that he pushes buttons, 305 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:43,250 he creates headlines. 306 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:44,417 For an audience, 307 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:46,125 if they love him or they hate him, 308 00:12:46,208 --> 00:12:47,291 they can't resist him. 309 00:12:47,375 --> 00:12:49,125 - Is this a picture of your daughter? 310 00:12:49,208 --> 00:12:50,083 [laughs] 311 00:12:50,166 --> 00:12:52,083 This is not an attractive daughter. 312 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:53,417 I got an email one day 313 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:56,625 that the morning show at WNEW in New York, 314 00:12:56,709 --> 00:12:59,083 they had just fired one of the hosts, 315 00:12:59,166 --> 00:13:01,458 and they hired me off of two demo shows. 316 00:13:01,542 --> 00:13:04,917 The "Sports Guys," WNEW, here in New York City. 317 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,709 I was now the morning man in the city I grew up in. 318 00:13:08,792 --> 00:13:11,083 Sid Rosenberg was the cohost. 319 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:13,166 - We became very friendly very, very quickly, 320 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:16,917 and he was really okay being that second guy, right? 321 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,458 "I just got here. You've been here, Sid. 322 00:13:19,542 --> 00:13:22,041 You're the host of the show. You're the guy." 323 00:13:22,125 --> 00:13:24,000 - Hey, I got a new tagline for you. 324 00:13:24,083 --> 00:13:26,834 "One sports guru, one sports idiot." 325 00:13:26,917 --> 00:13:29,291 - Why would you refer to Sid as a sports idiot? 326 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:30,834 - No, it's not--Craig. It's not Sidney. 327 00:13:30,917 --> 00:13:31,834 - Oh. - It's Craig. 328 00:13:31,917 --> 00:13:32,875 [laughter] Craig, come on. 329 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:34,458 You gotta get off the horse. 330 00:13:34,542 --> 00:13:36,458 - He agreed to be that second wheel 331 00:13:36,542 --> 00:13:38,458 until one Monday morning 332 00:13:38,542 --> 00:13:42,125 when I saw Craig sitting in the host's chair. 333 00:13:42,208 --> 00:13:43,458 He was the better talent. 334 00:13:43,542 --> 00:13:44,917 He should've been in that chair. 335 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,458 But when you come up a month or two before 336 00:13:46,542 --> 00:13:47,917 with your tail between your legs 337 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,625 and your balls basically in your mouth, 338 00:13:49,709 --> 00:13:51,750 thankful to God you got this job, 339 00:13:51,834 --> 00:13:54,125 you don't sit in the host's chair. 340 00:13:54,208 --> 00:13:56,709 So needless to say, that Monday morning 341 00:13:56,792 --> 00:13:57,917 was the very beginning 342 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,041 of what turned out to be many, many years 343 00:14:00,125 --> 00:14:01,500 of a hateful relationship. 344 00:14:01,583 --> 00:14:04,667 [dramatic music] 345 00:14:04,750 --> 00:14:07,000 - In December of 2001, they said, 346 00:14:07,083 --> 00:14:09,542 "Well, you're not being fired, but you're not being renewed." 347 00:14:09,625 --> 00:14:12,208 So I walked into a last place show 348 00:14:12,291 --> 00:14:16,000 and left--I'm pretty sure it was a last place show. 349 00:14:16,083 --> 00:14:18,417 And in May of 2002, 350 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:20,125 I started doing the afternoon show 351 00:14:20,208 --> 00:14:21,125 in New Jersey. 352 00:14:21,208 --> 00:14:22,667 2:34, "Jersey Guys." 353 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:24,333 Craig Carton and Ray Rossi. 354 00:14:24,417 --> 00:14:26,125 - He was one of the Jersey Guys 355 00:14:26,208 --> 00:14:28,500 on New Jersey 101.5. 356 00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:30,959 Craig was one of the afternoon drive guys, 357 00:14:31,041 --> 00:14:33,458 and I was the United States Attorney at the time, 358 00:14:33,542 --> 00:14:37,375 and that's how we first met and we became friends. 359 00:14:37,458 --> 00:14:40,041 - I got in a lot of trouble publicly, 360 00:14:40,125 --> 00:14:41,875 but I always viewed that as a good thing. 361 00:14:41,959 --> 00:14:43,208 Instead of saying West Virginia, 362 00:14:43,291 --> 00:14:44,375 you know what they put on the screen 363 00:14:44,458 --> 00:14:45,542 on ESPN last night? 364 00:14:45,625 --> 00:14:46,875 both: What? - West Virgina. 365 00:14:46,959 --> 00:14:48,542 [laughter] 366 00:14:48,625 --> 00:14:49,709 Very quickly became 367 00:14:49,792 --> 00:14:52,667 the most listened to afternoon show in America. 368 00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:54,709 - I had the best seat in the house. 369 00:14:54,792 --> 00:14:57,667 I was sitting back ringside watching it all happen. 370 00:14:57,750 --> 00:15:00,041 He got to pull back a lot of the curtain on things 371 00:15:00,125 --> 00:15:01,667 because he wasn't afraid to expose you. 372 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:03,500 He wasn't afraid to call people out. 373 00:15:03,583 --> 00:15:04,875 - The real question was gonna be, 374 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:08,041 would his outrageousness on-air, 375 00:15:08,125 --> 00:15:10,917 would that prevent a bigger broadcaster 376 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,750 from being willing to take a chance on him? 377 00:15:12,834 --> 00:15:16,375 ♪ ♪ 378 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,417 - And I'm sitting there one day 379 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:22,625 and Don Imus utters the words, "nappy-headed hos." 380 00:15:22,709 --> 00:15:24,375 Those words changed my life. 381 00:15:24,458 --> 00:15:25,917 - Some rough girls from Rutgers. 382 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,709 Man, they got tattoos and-- 383 00:15:27,792 --> 00:15:29,375 that's some nappy-headed hos there, 384 00:15:29,458 --> 00:15:31,125 I'm gonna tell you that now. 385 00:15:31,208 --> 00:15:34,750 - Don Imus got suspended and then fired for what he said 386 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,709 about the Rutgers women's basketball team. 387 00:15:37,792 --> 00:15:40,417 - "Imus in the Morning" had been a legendary show 388 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:43,792 and really had helped create what became WFAN, 389 00:15:43,875 --> 00:15:46,250 the most important sports talk show station 390 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:47,417 in the country. 391 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:49,917 - The FAN, Sports Radio 66. 392 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,208 - When Imus was removed from the air, 393 00:15:52,291 --> 00:15:54,875 it was a giant blow. 394 00:15:54,959 --> 00:15:55,917 It was ratings, 395 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,083 but even more so, it was revenue. 396 00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:02,417 - Everyone well-known Tom, Dick, and Harry wanted the job 397 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:03,583 'cause, you know, 398 00:16:03,667 --> 00:16:05,333 it's the single best platform in radio. 399 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:10,792 - I tried Jim Cramer, I tried Lou Dobbs, 400 00:16:10,875 --> 00:16:14,834 I tried Joe Scarborough, I tried the McEnroe brothers, 401 00:16:14,917 --> 00:16:20,125 I teamed up Boomer Esiason with Monica Crowley. 402 00:16:20,208 --> 00:16:22,083 Thought the show was a little too political. 403 00:16:22,166 --> 00:16:25,667 I said, "I don't think that's the direction we wanna go." 404 00:16:25,750 --> 00:16:27,500 - I got a phone call, 405 00:16:27,583 --> 00:16:28,792 and they asked if I'd be interested 406 00:16:28,875 --> 00:16:31,291 in doing the morning show at WFAN. 407 00:16:31,375 --> 00:16:35,000 ♪ ♪ 408 00:16:35,083 --> 00:16:38,083 - Craig and I talked a lot about the really short leash 409 00:16:38,166 --> 00:16:40,792 that his contract was putting him on, 410 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,333 and if he did anything 411 00:16:42,417 --> 00:16:45,291 that they found to be objectionable, distasteful, 412 00:16:45,375 --> 00:16:47,000 that they could terminate him immediately, 413 00:16:47,083 --> 00:16:48,959 and I said to him, "I think that's the only contract 414 00:16:49,041 --> 00:16:50,834 "you're gonna get to sign. 415 00:16:50,917 --> 00:16:54,834 So I'd sign it if I were you and behave yourself." 416 00:16:54,917 --> 00:16:56,041 - They wanted me to have a cohost, 417 00:16:56,125 --> 00:16:58,166 and I said, "Who's the cohost gonna be?" 418 00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:01,125 And they said, "New Yorkers love him. 419 00:17:01,208 --> 00:17:04,041 "He was a quarterback, he's blond, 420 00:17:04,125 --> 00:17:05,834 and he played in New York." 421 00:17:05,917 --> 00:17:08,208 And I said, "Great. Phil Simms. 422 00:17:08,291 --> 00:17:09,542 He'll be a great partner." 423 00:17:09,625 --> 00:17:12,291 And they said, "No, this one didn't win the Super Bowl." 424 00:17:12,375 --> 00:17:13,333 And I've always made the joke, 425 00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:15,333 I was like, "Shit, it's Boomer?" 426 00:17:15,417 --> 00:17:16,542 - Well, I mentioned it to Boomer, 427 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:18,542 and he didn't wanna have anything to do with Craig. 428 00:17:18,625 --> 00:17:21,375 I said, "Boomer, he's really talented 429 00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:23,291 "and, you know, it might be a good mix. 430 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:26,333 It's worth a shot." 431 00:17:26,417 --> 00:17:28,417 - We met at the Brooklyn Diner. 432 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:30,500 Kay, we had never met before, and he said-- 433 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:32,750 - "Let it rip and let's see what happens." 434 00:17:32,834 --> 00:17:34,375 - 6:06 on The FAN. 435 00:17:34,458 --> 00:17:36,583 Good morning and welcome to the first ever edition 436 00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:38,041 of the "Boomer and Carton" show. 437 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:39,417 Boomer Esiason, Craig Carton. 438 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:40,834 Good morning, Boomer, buddy boy. 439 00:17:40,917 --> 00:17:41,834 How are you today? 440 00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:43,417 - I'm wide awake this morning, Craig. 441 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:45,125 It's good to see you. It's great to work with you. 442 00:17:45,208 --> 00:17:47,250 - When they brought in "Boomer and Carton," 443 00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:49,542 they didn't know that they'd be able to replace Imus, 444 00:17:49,625 --> 00:17:51,417 and they made it a number one hit. 445 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:52,709 - You know what's happening right now? 446 00:17:52,792 --> 00:17:54,542 Every guy that listens to this show, 447 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:56,875 all 3.7 million of 'em, right? 448 00:17:56,959 --> 00:17:59,000 - Boomer's sports knowledge was great, 449 00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:00,834 and I knew Craig was an entertainer. 450 00:18:00,917 --> 00:18:02,542 - [with fancy accent] No one gave them a prayer, 451 00:18:02,625 --> 00:18:04,583 but here, 3 1/2 years later, 452 00:18:04,667 --> 00:18:06,625 they dominate the radio landscape 453 00:18:06,709 --> 00:18:08,250 with booger jokes. 454 00:18:08,333 --> 00:18:10,750 - He was able to articulate 455 00:18:10,834 --> 00:18:14,750 just absolutely crazy opinions with a straight face. 456 00:18:14,834 --> 00:18:15,875 - Dwarves. 457 00:18:15,959 --> 00:18:17,250 That's my answer. - That's your answer. 458 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:19,542 - You bring out-- you give every dwarf 459 00:18:19,625 --> 00:18:20,750 in the tristate area-- 460 00:18:20,834 --> 00:18:22,458 - A free ticket. - A free ticket to the game. 461 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:25,625 - The only time that I even was concerned, 462 00:18:25,709 --> 00:18:28,083 they would sometimes make what they call fart jokes. 463 00:18:28,166 --> 00:18:30,709 - [blows raspberry] That's right. I had gas. 464 00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:34,625 - They don't need five minutes of gas noises. 465 00:18:34,709 --> 00:18:36,834 - And the TV aspect of it, 466 00:18:36,917 --> 00:18:41,250 by being on CBS Sports Network and also on MSG Network, 467 00:18:41,333 --> 00:18:42,750 that just gave it a bigger feel. 468 00:18:42,834 --> 00:18:45,750 [Joan Jett's "Bad Reputation"] 469 00:18:45,834 --> 00:18:46,917 [defiant rock music] 470 00:18:47,041 --> 00:18:49,041 - The thing I did very well 471 00:18:49,125 --> 00:18:51,291 was create compelling content 472 00:18:51,375 --> 00:18:54,291 where the listeners, even if they didn't like me, 473 00:18:54,375 --> 00:18:56,834 didn't wanna miss what I was gonna say next. 474 00:18:56,917 --> 00:18:59,083 - Oh, my God. [laughter] 475 00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:01,792 - I wanna make love to Mark Sanchez 476 00:19:01,875 --> 00:19:03,959 while Rex Ryan tickles my feet. 477 00:19:04,041 --> 00:19:06,291 - He was the crazy, zany radio guy 478 00:19:06,375 --> 00:19:08,291 that had ludicrous ideas, 479 00:19:08,375 --> 00:19:10,291 and then you had the common sense athlete 480 00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,583 that would be like, "Look at this idiot." 481 00:19:12,667 --> 00:19:14,375 - So I'm just gonna put 'em in. - Hey. 482 00:19:14,458 --> 00:19:15,667 - Okay, now I want you to take 483 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:16,792 an M&M out of the cup and eat it. 484 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:18,250 - You know what, Gary Bettman right now-- 485 00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:19,667 - Loves me. - Is just absolutely sweating. 486 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:20,959 - Do you want me to eat it? 487 00:19:21,041 --> 00:19:22,166 - He knew what he was doing. 488 00:19:22,250 --> 00:19:23,625 He was the fire starter, 489 00:19:23,709 --> 00:19:25,583 and I knew that I had to be the older brother, 490 00:19:25,667 --> 00:19:26,834 I had to be the mature one, 491 00:19:26,917 --> 00:19:28,166 I had to play off of him. 492 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,333 - ♪ And I don't give a damn 'bout my bad reputation ♪ 493 00:19:30,417 --> 00:19:31,500 - [laughs] 494 00:19:31,583 --> 00:19:33,166 - I mean, we can't all, you know, tuck our shirts in 495 00:19:33,250 --> 00:19:35,041 and pull our jeans up to our nipples, Boomer. 496 00:19:35,125 --> 00:19:38,333 I mean, some of us actually like to be casual and relaxed. 497 00:19:38,417 --> 00:19:41,333 - Although Boomer was the true quarterback, 498 00:19:41,417 --> 00:19:43,208 Craig was the radio quarterback. 499 00:19:43,291 --> 00:19:44,583 - I have a lot to say today. I just started. 500 00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:46,166 I wanted to get to you quickly. - Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 501 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:47,834 Yeah, you had a lot to say last week too. 502 00:19:47,917 --> 00:19:48,834 - Yeah, I did. 503 00:19:48,917 --> 00:19:50,000 - You have to be thought-provoking 504 00:19:50,083 --> 00:19:52,959 and entertaining and nasty and nice. 505 00:19:53,041 --> 00:19:54,375 You have to evoke emotion. 506 00:19:54,458 --> 00:19:55,792 - [fake crying] 507 00:19:55,875 --> 00:19:58,208 Just so--I gotta tell you, the Yankees are great. 508 00:19:58,291 --> 00:20:00,458 - And you can't teach it. 509 00:20:00,542 --> 00:20:01,792 Craig's got it. 510 00:20:01,875 --> 00:20:03,208 - Right, so zip your lip. 511 00:20:03,291 --> 00:20:05,750 I mean, you decided to get a job in TV, 512 00:20:05,834 --> 00:20:06,959 and you ain't that attractive. 513 00:20:07,041 --> 00:20:08,291 - There's almost something Trumpian 514 00:20:08,375 --> 00:20:12,417 about his nose for what will work on TV, 515 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:13,667 what will work for a crowd. 516 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:14,750 both: Bang! - One more. 517 00:20:14,834 --> 00:20:16,041 both: Bam! Bam! 518 00:20:16,125 --> 00:20:17,500 - One more, one more, one more. - Nice! 519 00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,917 - He clearly had this great knack 520 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,709 for radio performance. 521 00:20:21,792 --> 00:20:22,875 - We will play the audio 522 00:20:22,959 --> 00:20:24,583 of the foot fetish video for you-- 523 00:20:24,667 --> 00:20:26,875 - Why? - At 7:10 this morning. 524 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:29,166 - Why? - 'Cause it's what we do. 525 00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:32,041 What made "Boomer and Carton" special was 526 00:20:32,125 --> 00:20:34,583 the thing that came most natural to us, 527 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:37,000 and that was our on-air relationship. 528 00:20:37,083 --> 00:20:39,208 - Went out and framed your article 529 00:20:39,291 --> 00:20:40,542 that was in "The New York Times." 530 00:20:40,625 --> 00:20:42,250 - That's a nice frame you did there. 531 00:20:42,333 --> 00:20:43,375 "What were you doing when I was playing 532 00:20:43,458 --> 00:20:44,458 "in the Super Bowl, Craig? 533 00:20:44,542 --> 00:20:46,709 You were inside, probably playing Intellivision." 534 00:20:46,792 --> 00:20:48,834 - As goofy as you are on the radio 535 00:20:48,917 --> 00:20:51,667 is as good a dad as you are at home. 536 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:53,625 - Well, thanks. - You are a tremendous father. 537 00:20:53,709 --> 00:20:55,625 - It got better and better from year to year. 538 00:20:55,709 --> 00:20:58,458 The closer they became, the better the show became. 539 00:20:58,542 --> 00:20:59,458 - ♪ Not me ♪ 540 00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:01,959 both: J! E! T! S! 541 00:21:02,041 --> 00:21:04,458 Jets! Jets! Jets! 542 00:21:04,542 --> 00:21:06,959 - He made Boomer laugh a lot more. 543 00:21:07,041 --> 00:21:08,166 Boomer would sometimes sit there 544 00:21:08,250 --> 00:21:09,875 with his arms folded like this 545 00:21:09,959 --> 00:21:11,959 just listening to what Craig had to say 546 00:21:12,041 --> 00:21:13,041 and belly laughing. 547 00:21:13,125 --> 00:21:14,709 - Your name is Punto! 548 00:21:14,792 --> 00:21:17,458 [laughter] 549 00:21:17,542 --> 00:21:19,542 Boomer's wearing the Pajamagram hoodie footies 550 00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:21,083 and really getting into it. 551 00:21:21,166 --> 00:21:23,208 [both laugh] 552 00:21:23,291 --> 00:21:24,917 Let me see what you got here. 553 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,250 Oh, yes. - [laughs] 554 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:29,458 - I've seen guys that are famous 555 00:21:29,542 --> 00:21:31,750 from something other than radio come into radio 556 00:21:31,834 --> 00:21:34,375 and they don't really like you busting their balls. 557 00:21:34,458 --> 00:21:35,959 - I have procured... 558 00:21:36,041 --> 00:21:38,917 - Boomer was okay being made fun of. 559 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,291 - That's a handsome guy right there. 560 00:21:40,375 --> 00:21:43,625 - The oil painting of Boomer Esiason 561 00:21:43,709 --> 00:21:46,041 that he does keep in his home. 562 00:21:46,125 --> 00:21:47,291 How 'bout that? [laughter] 563 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:50,625 My greatest gift to him was humanizing him. 564 00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,291 I made Boomer Esiason a real person 565 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,542 with a family and a dog, 566 00:21:55,625 --> 00:21:59,125 put his pants on the way we put our pants on. 567 00:21:59,208 --> 00:22:02,291 And the greatest gift he gave me was, 568 00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:06,166 he bought into my vision 569 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:08,333 of what would make the show successful. 570 00:22:08,417 --> 00:22:11,250 It's surreal that I'm the guy on the morning drive show 571 00:22:11,333 --> 00:22:13,458 that Imus held for all those years successfully, 572 00:22:13,542 --> 00:22:15,542 and we get to do that every single day. 573 00:22:15,625 --> 00:22:17,667 They overpay me, unless they're here, 574 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:19,083 and then you underpay me greatly. 575 00:22:19,166 --> 00:22:20,041 [laughter] 576 00:22:20,125 --> 00:22:22,333 I wanted to prove everybody wrong 577 00:22:22,417 --> 00:22:24,083 that said I wasn't good enough 578 00:22:24,166 --> 00:22:27,667 to be major market successful. 579 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:32,208 You know, the vindictiveness of proving people wrong, 580 00:22:32,291 --> 00:22:35,458 to this day, is very important to me. 581 00:22:35,542 --> 00:22:39,166 It's a driving force of my life. 582 00:22:39,250 --> 00:22:42,166 [dramatic music] 583 00:22:42,250 --> 00:22:43,709 ♪ ♪ 584 00:22:43,792 --> 00:22:45,208 Day 68. 585 00:22:45,291 --> 00:22:49,166 ♪ ♪ 586 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:51,792 One guy here says he's a member of the mafia. 587 00:22:51,875 --> 00:22:55,250 He tries to talk tough and use Italian phrases. 588 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:57,375 One guy here really is mafia 589 00:22:57,458 --> 00:23:00,375 and made a call to check him out. 590 00:23:00,458 --> 00:23:02,917 Turns out the guy is full of shit. 591 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,500 So he's been given the unforgettable nickname 592 00:23:05,583 --> 00:23:09,041 Phony Soprano. 593 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:12,792 Not long ago, I arranged a huge charity softball game 594 00:23:12,875 --> 00:23:13,834 at Yankee Stadium. 595 00:23:13,917 --> 00:23:15,250 - Carton might try to go all the way. 596 00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:16,417 - Come on home! - Let's see. 597 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,208 - Now, I've been drafted by the Yankees 598 00:23:19,291 --> 00:23:21,458 in the prison softball league. 599 00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:24,375 There's trash talk, and guys get into beefs. 600 00:23:24,458 --> 00:23:26,667 It's all pride and ego. 601 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:28,041 So I say nothing. 602 00:23:28,125 --> 00:23:31,291 ♪ ♪ 603 00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:33,709 I feel like life's passing me by 604 00:23:33,792 --> 00:23:35,709 while I sit here. 605 00:23:35,792 --> 00:23:38,041 I wanna scream and explode. 606 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:40,625 Every day feels like a marathon. 607 00:23:40,709 --> 00:23:44,375 My days used to be my shows and planning new ventures. 608 00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:46,959 Now it's walking 3 miles, 609 00:23:47,041 --> 00:23:49,917 reading, and learning to crochet. 610 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,417 Real men crochet. 611 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,250 Or that's what I keep telling myself. 612 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:59,333 ♪ ♪ 613 00:24:00,542 --> 00:24:02,333 - Now let me ask you this question: 614 00:24:02,417 --> 00:24:03,500 how are we doing the picks? 615 00:24:03,583 --> 00:24:05,250 Straight up, right? These are straight picks? 616 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:06,375 - Against the spread. 617 00:24:06,458 --> 00:24:07,417 - They are against the spread? 618 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:08,625 - It's gotta be against the spread. 619 00:24:08,709 --> 00:24:09,625 - No, I don't think it does. 620 00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:11,917 - How do you make picks not with a spread? 621 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,417 I mean, what am I, 5 years old? 622 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:14,583 - Just like we do it on the NFL today. 623 00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:16,875 - [with lisp] I think the Cowboys are gonna win. 624 00:24:16,959 --> 00:24:17,875 - Oh, you're an idiot. 625 00:24:17,959 --> 00:24:19,583 You really are. - I mean, come on, dude. 626 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:21,792 - Gambling was a big part of the show. 627 00:24:21,875 --> 00:24:25,125 - The Green Bay Packers will beat the Chicago Bears, 628 00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:27,625 and I also love the under. 629 00:24:27,709 --> 00:24:29,166 - Talking about the games 630 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:31,500 and, you know, who to bet here or there. 631 00:24:31,583 --> 00:24:32,792 - You can have your 2 grand back 632 00:24:32,875 --> 00:24:35,000 and I'll double it and give you 2,000 more. 633 00:24:35,083 --> 00:24:38,792 Gambling has always been, you know, a part of my life. 634 00:24:38,875 --> 00:24:41,834 [energetic music] 635 00:24:41,917 --> 00:24:44,125 - I always had an affinity for gambling. 636 00:24:44,208 --> 00:24:45,500 I enjoyed it. I liked it. 637 00:24:45,583 --> 00:24:48,750 The action, the energy in the room. 638 00:24:48,834 --> 00:24:50,959 I was a good card player as a kid, 639 00:24:51,041 --> 00:24:52,125 but later on in life, 640 00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:56,125 the majority of my gambling was sports-related. 641 00:24:56,208 --> 00:24:59,125 My biggest wager was probably a thousand bucks, 642 00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:01,625 and it was many years later 643 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:04,834 that I really started playing blackjack. 644 00:25:04,917 --> 00:25:07,625 - Craig's infatuation with gambling was never 645 00:25:07,709 --> 00:25:09,458 a secret to me. 646 00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:11,709 Even when we were at 101.5 with the Jersey Guys, 647 00:25:11,792 --> 00:25:13,542 we would be in Atlantic City. 648 00:25:13,625 --> 00:25:17,125 The tables were $10 a hand up to $200 a hand, 649 00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:19,166 and even at that time, he was a social butterfly, 650 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:21,000 spinning around, going from table to table, 651 00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:24,125 having a good time, gambling. 652 00:25:24,208 --> 00:25:27,000 - About 2013, '14, 653 00:25:27,083 --> 00:25:29,208 I'm now playing more blackjack. 654 00:25:29,291 --> 00:25:31,125 I thought that if I treated it 655 00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:34,291 with the discipline of a stockbroker 656 00:25:34,375 --> 00:25:36,333 and thought of it as a job 657 00:25:36,417 --> 00:25:38,542 that I could actually be very lucrative doing it. 658 00:25:38,625 --> 00:25:43,166 ♪ ♪ 659 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:44,500 - He could play one, two, 660 00:25:44,583 --> 00:25:46,917 sometimes three hands at one time 661 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,375 and never skipped a beat. 662 00:25:48,458 --> 00:25:50,750 I've played blackjack. I love playing blackjack. 663 00:25:50,834 --> 00:25:53,041 I have trouble with my one hand. 664 00:25:53,125 --> 00:25:55,208 - I had been around him a couple times 665 00:25:55,291 --> 00:25:58,834 where he won a lot of money. 666 00:25:58,917 --> 00:26:00,041 I would start to think to myself, 667 00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:03,041 "He has this figured out. Why can't I figure this out? 668 00:26:03,125 --> 00:26:07,333 This seems like great additional income." 669 00:26:07,417 --> 00:26:10,417 - When it came to gambling, I thought I was the best at it 670 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:14,583 and I didn't think any casino could beat me. 671 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:17,583 The cockiness that I'm really good at it, 672 00:26:17,667 --> 00:26:19,083 I'm gonna win, 673 00:26:19,166 --> 00:26:21,083 that plays into your ego. 674 00:26:21,166 --> 00:26:22,959 So there's an arrogance to it-- 675 00:26:23,041 --> 00:26:23,917 there was for me, at least-- 676 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 where, you know, I always compared it 677 00:26:26,083 --> 00:26:28,583 to Tiger Woods on a golf course, 678 00:26:28,667 --> 00:26:30,959 Michael Jordan on a basketball court. 679 00:26:31,041 --> 00:26:33,583 When they stepped on the court and the golf course, 680 00:26:33,667 --> 00:26:35,208 nothing else mattered. 681 00:26:35,291 --> 00:26:38,709 So when I sat down at a table to play blackjack, 682 00:26:38,792 --> 00:26:40,709 nothing else mattered. 683 00:26:40,792 --> 00:26:42,125 - I'm not really a gambler, 684 00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:44,458 but Craig and I sat down at a blackjack table, 685 00:26:44,542 --> 00:26:46,750 and after about 20 hands, 686 00:26:46,834 --> 00:26:49,458 I had won $3,500. 687 00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:52,000 And I said, "I'm done. I'm leaving. 688 00:26:52,083 --> 00:26:53,625 I got my 3,500. I'm good." 689 00:26:53,709 --> 00:26:55,125 You know, everybody said, "No, you gotta stay. 690 00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:57,583 You gotta stay." I'm like, "No, I'm leaving." 691 00:26:57,667 --> 00:26:59,417 And really, when you think about the difference 692 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,417 between me and Craig when it comes to gambling, 693 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:03,750 there it is right there. 694 00:27:03,834 --> 00:27:06,083 I left, he stayed, 695 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:08,500 and then later on came the bet for the Borgata 696 00:27:08,583 --> 00:27:10,458 because I guess he felt like, 697 00:27:10,542 --> 00:27:12,834 you know, he had to prove something to me. 698 00:27:12,917 --> 00:27:14,458 - We were doing a show 699 00:27:14,542 --> 00:27:16,792 at the Borgata in Atlantic City. 700 00:27:16,875 --> 00:27:17,959 We would go down there once a year, 701 00:27:18,041 --> 00:27:20,000 do a broadcast from down there. 702 00:27:20,083 --> 00:27:22,500 - In a strange way, it kinda happened overnight. 703 00:27:22,583 --> 00:27:24,792 An infamous event called the Boomer Bet. 704 00:27:24,875 --> 00:27:27,458 - If you show me how to win some money. 705 00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:29,291 - Here's what I would do for you at Borgata. 706 00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:31,625 You just have to take the leap of faith. 707 00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:35,208 - He was on such a roll and so cocky and confident 708 00:27:35,291 --> 00:27:37,125 with his blackjack winning, 709 00:27:37,208 --> 00:27:39,792 Craig brought up on the air 710 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:42,625 that he would double Boomer's money. 711 00:27:42,709 --> 00:27:45,125 - Talking about what a great gambler he was 712 00:27:45,208 --> 00:27:47,667 and that he could take $10,000 of my money 713 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:50,166 and double it and all this other-- 714 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:52,125 I said, "Oh, really? You could double my money? 715 00:27:52,208 --> 00:27:53,125 You could double my money?" 716 00:27:53,208 --> 00:27:54,667 And I just kept, you know, pushing him 717 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:55,834 and pushing him and pushing him, 718 00:27:55,917 --> 00:27:57,333 and he kept saying, "Yeah, I could double your money. 719 00:27:57,417 --> 00:27:58,333 I could double your money." 720 00:27:58,417 --> 00:28:00,291 How 'bout if I give you 10 grand? 721 00:28:00,375 --> 00:28:02,000 - If you gave me 10 grand? - Yeah. 722 00:28:02,083 --> 00:28:04,667 - I'd guarantee you 25,000. 723 00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:06,250 - Guarantee me--I'm in. 724 00:28:06,333 --> 00:28:09,834 - To guarantee a win is just stupid, 725 00:28:09,917 --> 00:28:12,667 but I said it on the air and he called me on it. 726 00:28:12,750 --> 00:28:15,959 [dramatic music] 727 00:28:16,041 --> 00:28:20,000 Boomer came into the studio with $10,000 in cash 728 00:28:20,083 --> 00:28:23,834 and counted out every single $100 bill. 729 00:28:23,917 --> 00:28:25,208 - I gave him 10 grand. 730 00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:26,834 It was crazy radio. 731 00:28:26,917 --> 00:28:28,750 You had gambling and the Borgata 732 00:28:28,834 --> 00:28:30,500 and money and cash. 733 00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:32,333 - We talk it up and talk it up 734 00:28:32,417 --> 00:28:35,208 for the weeks leading up to this Borgata remote. 735 00:28:35,291 --> 00:28:36,750 - I remember listeners calling up 736 00:28:36,834 --> 00:28:38,834 and saying, you know, "You're full of baloney. 737 00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:41,542 You're not doing that. That's not real money." 738 00:28:41,625 --> 00:28:42,625 - Alan and I were, like, trying 739 00:28:42,709 --> 00:28:44,000 to do the math in our heads, 740 00:28:44,083 --> 00:28:46,750 saying, like, "How is this gonna work?" 741 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,250 - That night, I won about $80,000 742 00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:53,333 playing blackjack. 743 00:28:53,417 --> 00:28:55,041 "Boomer and Carton" live at the Borgata. 744 00:28:55,125 --> 00:28:57,000 We're inside the B Bar. 745 00:28:57,083 --> 00:28:58,542 At 11:00 this morning, 746 00:28:58,625 --> 00:29:00,917 it's the first ever "Boomer and Carton" deep stack 747 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,542 Texas Hold'em tournament. 748 00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:05,041 Normally, when we did our show at the Borgata, 749 00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:06,208 a hundred people came 750 00:29:06,291 --> 00:29:08,834 to watch us do the show Friday morning. 751 00:29:08,917 --> 00:29:10,166 That Friday morning, 752 00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:12,583 there might have been a thousand people there. 753 00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:14,834 - Craig has a sack of cash. 754 00:29:14,917 --> 00:29:18,041 He takes it, puts it down on the desk, 755 00:29:18,125 --> 00:29:20,750 and presented to Boomer, 756 00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:23,291 and there was much rejoicing. 757 00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:26,000 - So I gave him the 25 grand. The place goes crazy. 758 00:29:26,083 --> 00:29:28,917 - And that bet was the coolest thing 759 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,291 and, as it's turned out, 760 00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:33,291 probably the worst thing that's ever happened. 761 00:29:33,375 --> 00:29:35,083 - The real problem with the Boomer Bet 762 00:29:35,166 --> 00:29:36,583 is that I won. 763 00:29:36,667 --> 00:29:38,792 As a result of that win, 764 00:29:38,875 --> 00:29:42,417 I'm now, you know, the blackjack whisperer. 765 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:44,041 - I would get calls from callers, 766 00:29:44,125 --> 00:29:45,917 "Hey, let me give Craig 10 grand." 767 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,917 You know, I'd hang up on 'em. 768 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,250 I never would put anybody through, 769 00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:50,417 'cause that seemed silly to me. 770 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,917 Well, he's not gonna take some random dude's $10,000 771 00:29:54,041 --> 00:29:55,125 and promise to double it. 772 00:29:55,208 --> 00:29:56,583 That didn't make sense. 773 00:29:56,667 --> 00:29:57,959 - So I started to get approached 774 00:29:58,041 --> 00:29:59,959 by a number of these types of people 775 00:30:00,041 --> 00:30:02,959 who heard the bet, knew that I had paid it off, 776 00:30:03,041 --> 00:30:04,000 and then wanted to know 777 00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:06,000 if I wanted to be in business with them. 778 00:30:06,083 --> 00:30:09,458 "Hey, Craig, I'll give you 100,000 bucks. 779 00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:12,792 Give me 110,000 back next month." 780 00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:14,458 - That's where the craziness began, 781 00:30:14,542 --> 00:30:17,291 and I guess it just got worse and worse and worse for him. 782 00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:20,291 [dramatic music] 783 00:30:20,375 --> 00:30:26,959 ♪ ♪ 784 00:30:27,041 --> 00:30:29,291 - Once people started giving me money to gamble 785 00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:32,458 on a regular basis, and significant sums of money, 786 00:30:32,542 --> 00:30:36,542 then I was all in. 787 00:30:36,625 --> 00:30:38,375 There were four different individuals, 788 00:30:38,458 --> 00:30:40,750 two of whom I've never met to this day, 789 00:30:40,834 --> 00:30:44,291 who extended me loans upwards of a million dollars. 790 00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:46,917 There were times when I met a buddy 791 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,166 on a street corner in New York City 792 00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:51,375 and he would hand me a knapsack, 793 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:54,750 and inside that knapsack was a million dollars cash. 794 00:30:56,375 --> 00:30:58,166 Blackjack became a drug for me. 795 00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:00,959 [indistinct chatter] 796 00:31:01,041 --> 00:31:04,542 - A blackjack player is like somebody doing cocaine. 797 00:31:04,625 --> 00:31:08,959 You have to keep taking cocaine to maintain that rush, 798 00:31:09,041 --> 00:31:11,041 and blackjack is extremely similar. 799 00:31:11,125 --> 00:31:17,041 ♪ ♪ 800 00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:19,000 - Everyone knew that I gambled. 801 00:31:19,083 --> 00:31:20,417 They all knew I liked to gamble. 802 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:23,208 Nobody knew the amounts I was gambling. 803 00:31:23,291 --> 00:31:26,583 There was one time I won $325,000 804 00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:28,542 in, like, nine minutes. 805 00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:31,959 Two hands, $15,000 per hand, 806 00:31:32,041 --> 00:31:35,083 so 30,000 bucks every deal. 807 00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:36,834 I won 325 grand 808 00:31:36,917 --> 00:31:40,166 and walked out the door to go to work. 809 00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:46,959 ♪ ♪ 810 00:31:47,959 --> 00:31:49,417 When I decided I wanted to gamble, 811 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,041 I would reach out to one of the investors. 812 00:31:52,125 --> 00:31:54,250 I would then wire that money to the casino. 813 00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:57,041 It's called front money. 814 00:31:57,125 --> 00:31:59,917 Most of the time, I was there after I worked, 815 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,083 and I would go there right after a show. 816 00:32:03,166 --> 00:32:04,125 - If you really think about it, 817 00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:06,458 what normal person, at 12:00 noon, 818 00:32:06,542 --> 00:32:08,750 decides to drive 2 1/2 hours 819 00:32:08,834 --> 00:32:10,375 to go play blackjack for an hour 820 00:32:10,458 --> 00:32:11,583 to drive back 2 1/2 hours? 821 00:32:11,667 --> 00:32:12,750 I mean, think about that. 822 00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:17,250 Five hours of driving to play blackjack for an hour? 823 00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,208 Who the--why? 824 00:32:19,291 --> 00:32:21,583 - When I was gambling late at night, nobody knew. 825 00:32:21,667 --> 00:32:23,417 I didn't tell anybody. 826 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:25,375 I would leave my apartment at midnight, 827 00:32:25,458 --> 00:32:27,959 everyone was sleeping, and I was gone. 828 00:32:29,667 --> 00:32:32,458 I got on a helicopter in New York City 829 00:32:32,542 --> 00:32:34,917 and flew to Atlantic City. 830 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,250 I had a $600,000 wire 831 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:39,917 that was sent on my behalf, 832 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,166 and I wagered from about 1:00 in the morning 833 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:44,792 to 3:30. 834 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,166 3:30 was always the cutoff time 835 00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:48,333 for me to be able to get back on a helicopter 836 00:32:48,417 --> 00:32:49,667 and fly back to the city 837 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:52,500 to make it to the Tribeca Radio Studios, 838 00:32:52,583 --> 00:32:53,667 where WFAN was. 839 00:32:53,750 --> 00:33:00,166 ♪ ♪ 840 00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:02,542 Good morning, everybody! 841 00:33:02,625 --> 00:33:05,792 6:03, Boomer Esiason, Craig Carton, 842 00:33:05,875 --> 00:33:08,417 on The FAN. 843 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:11,000 I didn't realize that I was an addict at the time. 844 00:33:11,083 --> 00:33:13,125 I really loved playing, 845 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,750 and I convinced myself 846 00:33:14,834 --> 00:33:16,625 you know, as long as I'm doing a good radio show 847 00:33:16,709 --> 00:33:19,625 and we're number one and they don't know about it, 848 00:33:19,709 --> 00:33:21,250 well, I'll just continue to do it. 849 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:23,208 I will give the Jets credit for this. 850 00:33:23,291 --> 00:33:24,583 We'll start Jets, I guess, okay? 851 00:33:24,667 --> 00:33:26,709 - All right. - Jets are down three-- 852 00:33:26,792 --> 00:33:28,500 Gambling aside, I always got involved 853 00:33:28,583 --> 00:33:30,291 in other types of businesses. 854 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:32,709 - Craig was one of those guys that always had an idea. 855 00:33:32,792 --> 00:33:35,000 He always had, you know, the next big thing. 856 00:33:35,083 --> 00:33:38,542 - I have a cologne deal. 857 00:33:38,625 --> 00:33:40,291 - You have a cologne deal. - I have a cologne deal. 858 00:33:40,375 --> 00:33:42,875 - That's what I wanna do. I wanna smell like Craigy. 859 00:33:42,959 --> 00:33:44,500 What's the name of it gonna be called? 860 00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:45,500 Fart? 861 00:33:45,583 --> 00:33:47,166 - He felt he was a businessman. 862 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:48,750 Like, he thought he was a real businessman, 863 00:33:48,834 --> 00:33:50,000 not just a radio personality. 864 00:33:50,083 --> 00:33:53,291 - There were a million of these little side projects. 865 00:33:53,375 --> 00:33:56,125 - I did come up with another genius idea this weekend. 866 00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:57,834 Junk Balm. 867 00:33:57,917 --> 00:33:59,000 - Which is, like, deodorant 868 00:33:59,083 --> 00:34:02,667 for your nether regions, I guess. 869 00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:06,583 - Al and I always thought, "Just do the show. 870 00:34:06,667 --> 00:34:08,917 Why do you have to do all this other stuff?" 871 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,667 - You know, he was sort of a serial entrepreneur. 872 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,709 He had this sort of restless spirit. 873 00:34:14,792 --> 00:34:17,834 He obviously wanted to do more than just talk on the radio. 874 00:34:17,917 --> 00:34:20,208 - I think Craig wanted to see himself 875 00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:23,709 as a, you know, $20 million a year entertainer, 876 00:34:23,792 --> 00:34:24,709 where he wanted to live 877 00:34:24,792 --> 00:34:26,000 in the penthouse in New York City, 878 00:34:26,083 --> 00:34:28,375 where he wanted his kids to go to private school 879 00:34:28,458 --> 00:34:30,041 and he wanted to make sure that he could drive 880 00:34:30,125 --> 00:34:32,375 around New York City with a driver. 881 00:34:32,458 --> 00:34:34,875 At the end of the day, he was always striving, 882 00:34:34,959 --> 00:34:38,208 you know, for the next thing, the next big thing. 883 00:34:38,291 --> 00:34:40,834 - If I was just content being successful 884 00:34:40,917 --> 00:34:43,875 and number one on the radio, 885 00:34:43,959 --> 00:34:45,709 well, we wouldn't be sitting here today. 886 00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:48,583 [downbeat music] 887 00:34:48,667 --> 00:34:50,709 In May of 2016, 888 00:34:50,792 --> 00:34:53,417 I started a company called Tier One Tickets 889 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,959 to resell tickets to concert events 890 00:34:56,041 --> 00:34:58,000 on the secondary market. 891 00:34:58,083 --> 00:35:01,417 - Talent on the radio doesn't equal talent 892 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:02,750 in business, 893 00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:06,750 and I think he had a hard time understanding that. 894 00:35:06,834 --> 00:35:08,250 - I will always remember saying to him, 895 00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:10,375 "Just keep it real, man. Always keep it real. 896 00:35:10,458 --> 00:35:12,625 "Don't get involved with the wrong people. 897 00:35:12,709 --> 00:35:14,250 You gotta keep it real." 898 00:35:14,333 --> 00:35:16,083 - He surrounded himself with some real beauties. 899 00:35:16,166 --> 00:35:19,917 Joe Meli, if he was a conman, he was a brilliant conman. 900 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,917 Craig said, you know, 901 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,417 "He's the smartest person I've ever met." 902 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:23,917 He was, you know, the smartest person 903 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,917 in every room we were ever in. 904 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,333 I think he was seduced and besotted by Meli. 905 00:35:30,417 --> 00:35:33,417 - Everybody in that ticket reselling business 906 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:34,750 seemed scummy to me. 907 00:35:34,834 --> 00:35:38,792 ♪ ♪ 908 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:41,166 - As we started to acquire more tickets 909 00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:42,875 and sell more tickets, 910 00:35:42,959 --> 00:35:44,792 I reached out to a hedge fund 911 00:35:44,875 --> 00:35:47,291 to loan me money personally 912 00:35:47,375 --> 00:35:49,625 so that I could buy even more tickets. 913 00:35:49,709 --> 00:35:51,959 The hedge fund gave me $2 million 914 00:35:52,041 --> 00:35:55,417 specifically to invest in the purchase of tickets. 915 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,000 I took $950,000 of it 916 00:35:58,083 --> 00:36:00,625 and used it for gambling purposes. 917 00:36:00,709 --> 00:36:02,333 That was the single biggest mistake 918 00:36:02,417 --> 00:36:03,917 I've made in my entire life. 919 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,125 It's at 2 1/2 right now. 920 00:36:06,208 --> 00:36:07,583 The "Boomer and Carton" program does not condone 921 00:36:07,667 --> 00:36:08,792 illegal gambling. 922 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:11,166 Bet it today before it gets to 3. 923 00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:12,542 You don't wanna start buying points. 924 00:36:12,625 --> 00:36:14,000 - All of us would hear him talk about it 925 00:36:14,083 --> 00:36:15,625 both on the air and off the air 926 00:36:15,709 --> 00:36:18,959 about what a central part of his life gambling, 927 00:36:19,041 --> 00:36:22,500 blackjack in particular, was becoming. 928 00:36:22,583 --> 00:36:25,000 - I think he was in Bimini, 929 00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:27,125 and he told me he had won $2 million. 930 00:36:27,208 --> 00:36:28,625 [machine clicking] 931 00:36:28,709 --> 00:36:31,166 I said, "You're paying taxes on that, right?" 932 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:32,333 And he goes, "Yeah, I gotta pay taxes." 933 00:36:32,417 --> 00:36:33,333 I said, "Fine. 934 00:36:33,417 --> 00:36:35,375 "Put half of that money away for your kids 935 00:36:35,458 --> 00:36:37,083 "and their education. 936 00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:39,166 Don't do anything stupid with it." 937 00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:41,667 I'll never forget that conversation. 938 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:44,458 And then after that, 939 00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:46,291 that's the last I heard of it. 940 00:36:46,375 --> 00:36:48,625 You know, and I had no idea how much he was gambling. 941 00:36:48,709 --> 00:36:50,333 I had no idea where he got the money from. 942 00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:53,041 I had no idea that anybody was contacting him. 943 00:36:53,125 --> 00:36:54,875 - I knew Craig liked to gamble 944 00:36:54,959 --> 00:36:56,208 'cause he talked about it on the air. 945 00:36:56,291 --> 00:36:57,875 He wrote about it in his book. 946 00:36:57,959 --> 00:36:59,542 But that doesn't mean you know 947 00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:01,709 that somebody's gambling millions of dollars. 948 00:37:01,792 --> 00:37:04,041 - I don't think there was one person at that station 949 00:37:04,125 --> 00:37:06,875 that had any idea how bad it was. 950 00:37:06,959 --> 00:37:10,542 - You know, how stupid were we to not really see 951 00:37:10,625 --> 00:37:14,625 that this guy was sort of falling apart? 952 00:37:14,709 --> 00:37:15,583 - I got to a level 953 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:19,041 where I'm now wagering $125,000 954 00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:21,208 on the table to start. 955 00:37:21,291 --> 00:37:24,709 I was winning and losing obscene amounts of money, 956 00:37:24,792 --> 00:37:27,041 and it didn't bother me. 957 00:37:27,125 --> 00:37:28,542 I just wanted to play more. 958 00:37:28,625 --> 00:37:31,542 [dramatic music] 959 00:37:31,625 --> 00:37:32,709 ♪ ♪ 960 00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:36,875 The worst trip was, an investor gave $1/2 million. 961 00:37:36,959 --> 00:37:39,083 He expected a 10% return. 962 00:37:39,166 --> 00:37:41,583 Everything beyond that, I keep. 963 00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:42,875 I was there to gamble, 964 00:37:42,959 --> 00:37:46,250 so I did it as much as I could. 965 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,250 I fell asleep at the table in the middle of a hand, 966 00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:51,375 and I remember waking up. 967 00:37:51,458 --> 00:37:54,291 I popped up and I said, "Hit," 968 00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:56,375 and I won a $20,000 hand. 969 00:37:58,834 --> 00:38:02,583 In the first 12 hours, I had his 550 970 00:38:02,667 --> 00:38:05,917 plus 1.5 million. 971 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,417 - There are so many incidences 972 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:10,625 where even a casino employee says, "You're winning. 973 00:38:10,709 --> 00:38:12,041 Go home." 974 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:13,792 - And you walk out the door 975 00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:16,458 with 1 1/2 million in profit 976 00:38:16,542 --> 00:38:18,417 that I'm keeping. 977 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:19,625 I walked out with nothing. 978 00:38:19,709 --> 00:38:25,375 ♪ ♪ 979 00:38:25,458 --> 00:38:27,959 I lost the 1 1/2 million I had won 980 00:38:28,041 --> 00:38:31,291 and I lost the 500,000 he had given me. 981 00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:33,709 So I essentially lost $2 million 982 00:38:33,792 --> 00:38:36,166 in a 24 hour period. 983 00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:38,125 So I took a personal loan 984 00:38:38,208 --> 00:38:40,625 to pay back the blackjack investor, 985 00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:43,333 and that's when I really started getting in trouble. 986 00:38:43,417 --> 00:38:45,333 'Cause now you're borrowing from other people 987 00:38:45,417 --> 00:38:47,000 to cover debts, 988 00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:50,834 and when you start going down that slope, 989 00:38:50,917 --> 00:38:53,250 that only ends one way, 990 00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:54,625 and it's not good. 991 00:38:54,709 --> 00:38:57,750 [indistinct chatter] 992 00:38:59,917 --> 00:39:03,000 - We have this idea that gambling is about thrill 993 00:39:03,083 --> 00:39:05,792 and risk and uncertainty, 994 00:39:05,875 --> 00:39:07,041 'cause certainly you are 995 00:39:07,125 --> 00:39:09,542 technically risking money, right? 996 00:39:09,625 --> 00:39:12,667 But when you're actually in the zone of gambling, 997 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:14,041 it doesn't feel that way. 998 00:39:14,125 --> 00:39:17,041 [tense music] 999 00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:19,834 ♪ ♪ 1000 00:39:19,917 --> 00:39:21,500 - There was no emotion to winning. 1001 00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:23,125 There's no emotion to losing. 1002 00:39:23,208 --> 00:39:25,959 Blackjack became an escape. 1003 00:39:26,041 --> 00:39:28,500 - They say, "Everything in my life felt 1004 00:39:28,583 --> 00:39:30,000 "so uncertain. 1005 00:39:30,083 --> 00:39:32,333 "The one place that I was certain about anything 1006 00:39:32,417 --> 00:39:36,041 "or that I could calm down or get away from my anxieties 1007 00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:39,458 was when I was gambling." 1008 00:39:39,542 --> 00:39:41,583 - Gambling allowed me to escape, 1009 00:39:41,667 --> 00:39:44,041 you know, the "demons." 1010 00:39:44,125 --> 00:39:46,583 I felt like I was kinda in this protective bubble 1011 00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:48,875 when I played. 1012 00:39:48,959 --> 00:39:51,166 - Solitude is very important. 1013 00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:52,500 Gamblers used to tell me, 1014 00:39:52,583 --> 00:39:54,583 "I liked to go into the corners 1015 00:39:54,667 --> 00:39:56,250 "where I could hide. 1016 00:39:56,333 --> 00:39:58,333 I felt safe." 1017 00:39:58,417 --> 00:40:00,709 He was gambling at a high enough level 1018 00:40:00,792 --> 00:40:03,000 where the casino would cater to his wish 1019 00:40:03,083 --> 00:40:04,750 to really be alone. 1020 00:40:04,834 --> 00:40:06,542 - I was not looking for attention. 1021 00:40:06,625 --> 00:40:08,166 I was looking to hide. 1022 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:12,333 And every casino in the world would allow me to gamble alone 1023 00:40:12,417 --> 00:40:13,750 in great privacy. 1024 00:40:13,834 --> 00:40:18,417 ♪ ♪ 1025 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:20,542 - The thing is that they care more 1026 00:40:20,625 --> 00:40:23,750 about staying in the flow of action, 1027 00:40:23,834 --> 00:40:25,542 staying in that continuous zone, 1028 00:40:25,625 --> 00:40:27,083 than they do about winning. 1029 00:40:27,166 --> 00:40:29,583 [indistinct chatter] 1030 00:40:29,667 --> 00:40:31,875 - It was the only thing I found in my life 1031 00:40:31,959 --> 00:40:35,291 that matched the speed of my brain, 1032 00:40:35,375 --> 00:40:38,083 the speed of the cards coming out. 1033 00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:41,458 I used to have multiple tables reserved, 1034 00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:43,709 and I used to make sure that they shuffled 1035 00:40:43,792 --> 00:40:45,625 before I sat down. 1036 00:40:45,709 --> 00:40:48,125 I couldn't wait the five minutes 1037 00:40:48,208 --> 00:40:49,417 for the dealer to shuffle. 1038 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:50,417 I hated it. 1039 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:51,959 It felt like an eternity to me. 1040 00:40:52,041 --> 00:40:54,959 [dramatic music] 1041 00:40:55,041 --> 00:40:59,375 ♪ ♪ 1042 00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:00,625 - When somebody has a sickness 1043 00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:03,000 and somebody is wrapped up in something 1044 00:41:03,083 --> 00:41:04,792 that you're not really that aware of 1045 00:41:04,875 --> 00:41:06,333 and you can't get out in front of it 1046 00:41:06,417 --> 00:41:08,834 and help that person stop, 1047 00:41:08,917 --> 00:41:11,250 there's a level of guilt that you have as well. 1048 00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:14,291 - I was as much of an enabler 1049 00:41:14,375 --> 00:41:16,417 as anybody was. 1050 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,458 There was a moment when his wife had asked me 1051 00:41:20,542 --> 00:41:22,625 to stop going with him, 1052 00:41:22,709 --> 00:41:23,959 and I just remember looking in her eyes 1053 00:41:24,041 --> 00:41:26,250 and realizing, "All right, you know what? 1054 00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:28,291 I got it. I understand." 1055 00:41:28,375 --> 00:41:30,625 - I know Boomer was concerned about it. 1056 00:41:30,709 --> 00:41:31,959 Al Dukes was concerned about it. 1057 00:41:32,041 --> 00:41:33,458 I know there were others who were concerned 1058 00:41:33,542 --> 00:41:34,959 about it as well. 1059 00:41:35,041 --> 00:41:37,625 I talked to him a couple of times about it. 1060 00:41:37,709 --> 00:41:39,458 "Hey, do we have a problem here?" 1061 00:41:39,542 --> 00:41:40,458 You know, "Do you think 1062 00:41:40,542 --> 00:41:42,083 you should be talking to somebody?" 1063 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:46,333 And he perpetually denied it was ever a problem. 1064 00:41:46,417 --> 00:41:50,166 - Hiding the gambling was so easy for me. 1065 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:53,250 But then you start lying about everything. 1066 00:41:53,333 --> 00:41:55,834 - With gambling, there's no saturation point. 1067 00:41:55,917 --> 00:41:58,333 Like, you could only do so much drugs 1068 00:41:58,417 --> 00:41:59,917 before you're gonna pass out or die, 1069 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,500 whereas with gambling, it's virtually unlimited, 1070 00:42:02,583 --> 00:42:04,208 so you could imagine the high. 1071 00:42:04,291 --> 00:42:07,208 ♪ ♪ 1072 00:42:07,291 --> 00:42:08,792 Eventually, everybody runs out of money, 1073 00:42:08,875 --> 00:42:10,959 and then, like a house of cards, 1074 00:42:11,041 --> 00:42:12,625 it all collapses. 1075 00:42:15,250 --> 00:42:18,166 [somber music] 1076 00:42:18,250 --> 00:42:20,834 ♪ ♪ 1077 00:42:20,917 --> 00:42:22,375 - Day 210. 1078 00:42:22,458 --> 00:42:28,041 ♪ ♪ 1079 00:42:28,125 --> 00:42:29,917 I used to make millions. 1080 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,709 Now, I get 5 bucks a month as a prison tutor. 1081 00:42:33,792 --> 00:42:35,375 But the real currency here 1082 00:42:35,458 --> 00:42:37,792 is stamps and packets of mackerel, 1083 00:42:37,875 --> 00:42:39,667 things other prisoners want. 1084 00:42:42,166 --> 00:42:45,250 I bought some basics to make my own prison meals. 1085 00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:49,417 My best is Ramen a la Carton y Pollo. 1086 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,041 It's chicken breast and turkey log 1087 00:42:51,125 --> 00:42:53,166 with ramen noodles. 1088 00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:55,375 Now, you gotta make sure to shake the chicken 1089 00:42:55,458 --> 00:42:58,375 in an empty Dorito bag for extra flavor. 1090 00:42:58,458 --> 00:43:05,000 ♪ ♪ 1091 00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:09,875 Visiting day is the best and the worst day of the week. 1092 00:43:09,959 --> 00:43:12,875 I live for the visits of family and friends, 1093 00:43:12,959 --> 00:43:14,250 but it's tough when they go. 1094 00:43:14,333 --> 00:43:19,625 ♪ ♪ 1095 00:43:19,709 --> 00:43:22,750 Being here makes the decisions and risks I took 1096 00:43:22,834 --> 00:43:25,458 so unfathomably stupid. 1097 00:43:25,542 --> 00:43:29,083 Why wasn't being number one on the radio good enough? 1098 00:43:29,166 --> 00:43:31,583 Why wasn't my family more important 1099 00:43:31,667 --> 00:43:33,709 than my selfish desires? 1100 00:43:33,792 --> 00:43:36,959 I'm trying to understand what I was chasing 1101 00:43:37,041 --> 00:43:39,417 and why that chase was so important. 1102 00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:43,333 ♪ ♪ 1103 00:43:45,792 --> 00:43:48,291 I had every single thing you could ever want in life. 1104 00:43:48,375 --> 00:43:49,583 I made a lot of money, 1105 00:43:49,667 --> 00:43:52,083 I had a beautiful family, great apartment, 1106 00:43:52,166 --> 00:43:55,500 but I was clearly living, you know, kinda two lives. 1107 00:43:55,583 --> 00:43:58,792 One, the affable, outgoing radio talk show host 1108 00:43:58,875 --> 00:44:01,333 who had achieved everything he ever wanted in life, 1109 00:44:01,417 --> 00:44:02,417 but at the same time, 1110 00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:06,291 I had these personal demons chasing me. 1111 00:44:06,375 --> 00:44:07,291 And that goes back 1112 00:44:07,375 --> 00:44:10,083 to, you know, the unfortunate reality 1113 00:44:10,166 --> 00:44:14,834 of being molested as a child at a summer camp. 1114 00:44:14,917 --> 00:44:17,291 I was abused every night for eight weeks, 1115 00:44:17,375 --> 00:44:18,333 something I withheld 1116 00:44:18,417 --> 00:44:21,625 for more than 30 years of my life. 1117 00:44:21,709 --> 00:44:23,959 I still had shame over it. 1118 00:44:24,041 --> 00:44:27,333 You know, it still haunted me and bothered me. 1119 00:44:27,417 --> 00:44:30,291 I was never living a full life emotionally, 1120 00:44:30,375 --> 00:44:34,333 'cause I had this secret which gnawed at me. 1121 00:44:34,417 --> 00:44:38,000 I wish I had been strong enough much earlier in my life 1122 00:44:38,083 --> 00:44:41,291 to tell people. 1123 00:44:41,375 --> 00:44:44,875 You know, I wasn't able to do that. 1124 00:44:44,959 --> 00:44:46,542 The first time I wanted to put it out 1125 00:44:46,625 --> 00:44:48,750 was when I wrote my book, "Loudmouth," 1126 00:44:48,834 --> 00:44:51,000 and I wrote a chapter on it. 1127 00:44:51,083 --> 00:44:53,667 Simon & Schuster actually made the decision 1128 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:55,792 that I shouldn't put it in the book 1129 00:44:55,875 --> 00:44:57,792 because the rest of the book is 1130 00:44:57,875 --> 00:45:00,834 hijinks and laughter and fun stuff. 1131 00:45:00,917 --> 00:45:04,333 So I regrettably took it out of the book. 1132 00:45:04,417 --> 00:45:06,458 I still read it now and then. 1133 00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:10,125 So you want me to just read it, or... 1134 00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:11,208 - Yeah. 1135 00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:59,291 "And I never cried again 1136 00:45:59,375 --> 00:46:02,291 and haven't cried once since that night." 1137 00:46:02,375 --> 00:46:07,959 ♪ ♪ 1138 00:46:08,041 --> 00:46:10,041 - Sexual abuse is obviously something 1139 00:46:10,125 --> 00:46:13,166 that he hid deep inside himself. 1140 00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:16,041 And I don't know who knew, but I could tell you I didn't. 1141 00:46:16,125 --> 00:46:17,291 He never talked to me about it. 1142 00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:20,083 - He never, ever shared 1143 00:46:20,166 --> 00:46:21,458 the most intimate details 1144 00:46:21,542 --> 00:46:23,458 of that part of his life when he was a child. 1145 00:46:23,542 --> 00:46:27,083 - I found that out just this year. 1146 00:46:27,166 --> 00:46:28,959 - Obviously, Sandusky's the bad guy here. 1147 00:46:29,041 --> 00:46:31,083 He's, you know, the Big Bad Wolf, 1148 00:46:31,166 --> 00:46:33,709 but the reality is that Joe Paterno is the godfather 1149 00:46:33,792 --> 00:46:35,125 of everything in Penn State. 1150 00:46:35,208 --> 00:46:38,792 The worst moment for me in not coming forward was 1151 00:46:38,875 --> 00:46:40,834 being on the radio 1152 00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:44,750 during the whole Jerry Sandusky situation at Penn State. 1153 00:46:44,834 --> 00:46:48,959 This is a predator, a hunter, of young boys 1154 00:46:49,041 --> 00:46:51,125 who did the most despicable thing 1155 00:46:51,208 --> 00:46:53,083 you could ever do to a child, 1156 00:46:53,166 --> 00:46:56,208 and the guy that was in charge of everything at Penn State 1157 00:46:56,291 --> 00:46:58,125 allowed it to go on 1158 00:46:58,208 --> 00:47:00,125 without thinking twice about it. 1159 00:47:00,208 --> 00:47:02,333 - I had never seen him 1160 00:47:02,417 --> 00:47:06,792 react to something so viciously. 1161 00:47:06,875 --> 00:47:08,792 - Here's a man that was told 1162 00:47:08,875 --> 00:47:12,125 that a 10-year-old boy was being sodomized 1163 00:47:12,208 --> 00:47:13,959 in his backyard 1164 00:47:14,041 --> 00:47:15,792 and did nothing about it. 1165 00:47:15,875 --> 00:47:17,208 - And I now think 1166 00:47:17,291 --> 00:47:19,834 that all the things that he has been through, 1167 00:47:19,917 --> 00:47:21,375 the way that he is, 1168 00:47:21,458 --> 00:47:23,166 obviously stems from some of the things 1169 00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:25,041 that happened while he was in camp. 1170 00:47:25,125 --> 00:47:28,333 ♪ ♪ 1171 00:47:28,417 --> 00:47:30,959 - From the minute I decided not to share 1172 00:47:31,041 --> 00:47:33,500 being molested at summer camp, 1173 00:47:33,583 --> 00:47:35,959 I became good at lying. 1174 00:47:36,041 --> 00:47:38,166 Because your... 1175 00:47:38,250 --> 00:47:40,542 all your emotions are now lies. 1176 00:47:40,625 --> 00:47:42,542 'Cause you're protecting how you really feel. 1177 00:47:45,417 --> 00:47:48,709 You build up these defense mechanisms, 1178 00:47:48,792 --> 00:47:52,250 really, as a way just to get through life. 1179 00:47:52,333 --> 00:47:55,333 Ultimately, I transferred that 1180 00:47:55,417 --> 00:47:58,709 into lying about gambling, 1181 00:47:58,792 --> 00:48:00,375 and they're very much connected. 1182 00:48:00,458 --> 00:48:03,750 ♪ ♪ 1183 00:48:03,834 --> 00:48:05,792 - When you have trauma issues that are unresolved 1184 00:48:05,875 --> 00:48:08,083 and you're having these big wins, 1185 00:48:08,166 --> 00:48:11,041 it makes you really forget about that trauma. 1186 00:48:11,125 --> 00:48:12,709 Gambling is one of the perfect drugs. 1187 00:48:12,792 --> 00:48:14,875 It almost always works. 1188 00:48:14,959 --> 00:48:21,959 ♪ ♪ 1189 00:48:23,458 --> 00:48:25,542 - Which number will be higher? 1190 00:48:25,625 --> 00:48:29,208 Rangers' shots on goal tomorrow night 1191 00:48:29,291 --> 00:48:32,375 or Carmelo Anthony points tonight? 1192 00:48:32,458 --> 00:48:35,542 - Rangers' shots on goal. - I will take Carmelo. 1193 00:48:35,625 --> 00:48:37,709 We got a hundy on that though. We shook like men. 1194 00:48:37,792 --> 00:48:38,875 You wanna pinky swear like men too? 1195 00:48:38,959 --> 00:48:40,083 - I'm not gonna pinky swear anything. 1196 00:48:40,166 --> 00:48:41,583 - Well, I'm just saying. - I shook your hand. 1197 00:48:41,667 --> 00:48:43,333 - It made sense to me at the time, 1198 00:48:43,417 --> 00:48:46,417 but the very first loan I took to gamble with, 1199 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,583 it's immediately wrong and out of control. 1200 00:48:49,667 --> 00:48:51,583 If you lose their money, 1201 00:48:51,667 --> 00:48:54,125 you have to pay them back out of your money 1202 00:48:54,208 --> 00:48:55,458 with interest. 1203 00:48:55,542 --> 00:48:58,834 If you add up all the loans over a couple of years, 1204 00:48:58,917 --> 00:49:02,750 I borrowed over $30 million to gamble with. 1205 00:49:02,834 --> 00:49:04,458 In 2017, 1206 00:49:04,542 --> 00:49:07,875 I was the net loser of a couple million dollars. 1207 00:49:07,959 --> 00:49:11,542 I had to cover the losses personally. 1208 00:49:11,625 --> 00:49:14,083 - The amazing thing about Craig 1209 00:49:14,166 --> 00:49:18,083 and one of the reasons we were all sort of blindsided 1210 00:49:18,166 --> 00:49:21,750 is that when the light came on, he was ready to go 1211 00:49:21,834 --> 00:49:24,083 and still performing at his best. 1212 00:49:24,166 --> 00:49:25,125 - Now I'm sure, guy, 1213 00:49:25,208 --> 00:49:27,000 your intellect is probably illiterate, 1214 00:49:27,083 --> 00:49:28,959 so I read the newspaper for you. 1215 00:49:29,041 --> 00:49:30,792 - He was the mailman. That guy delivered. 1216 00:49:30,875 --> 00:49:32,166 No matter what was going on around him, 1217 00:49:32,250 --> 00:49:36,166 he could block it out and just zoom in on that camera 1218 00:49:36,250 --> 00:49:37,750 and capture that audience. 1219 00:49:37,834 --> 00:49:39,500 - What do you have a thing for? 1220 00:49:39,583 --> 00:49:41,125 - Lasagna. - Okay. 1221 00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:42,250 - Yes. - Good. Nice. 1222 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:44,291 - And I will admit, 1223 00:49:44,375 --> 00:49:47,166 hot chicks in nothing at all but football jerseys 1224 00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:49,500 and me pouring barbecue sauce all over them 1225 00:49:49,583 --> 00:49:51,417 and working them like a rib. 1226 00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:53,583 But that's me, Boomer. That's my fetish. 1227 00:49:53,667 --> 00:49:55,291 - It is absolutely shocking to me 1228 00:49:55,375 --> 00:49:58,792 that he was able to come in and do radio shows. 1229 00:49:58,875 --> 00:50:00,542 I can't imagine the stress he was under. 1230 00:50:00,625 --> 00:50:02,792 - All hail the king! 1231 00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:04,458 - Even though you knew there had to be bad, 1232 00:50:04,542 --> 00:50:06,291 you never saw it. 1233 00:50:06,375 --> 00:50:08,709 He was a master of disguise in that manner. 1234 00:50:10,959 --> 00:50:14,667 - Part of the appeal of Craig and the tragic nature of Craig 1235 00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:17,959 is that, you know, he manages to screw things up for himself 1236 00:50:18,041 --> 00:50:19,834 even when things are going really well. 1237 00:50:19,917 --> 00:50:23,250 Self-sabotage, it's like it's part of his arsenal. 1238 00:50:24,917 --> 00:50:27,333 - There was one time that he had called me 1239 00:50:27,417 --> 00:50:29,625 to meet at the Greek downtown. 1240 00:50:29,709 --> 00:50:31,875 He started rambling on about this pitch 1241 00:50:31,959 --> 00:50:35,166 and, you know, tickets, and, you know, investment 1242 00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:38,834 and this business that made no sense whatsoever to me, 1243 00:50:38,917 --> 00:50:40,834 and at that moment, 1244 00:50:40,917 --> 00:50:43,166 I said to myself, "Hmm. 1245 00:50:43,250 --> 00:50:45,583 "Something bad is going on here. 1246 00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:47,709 He's in trouble." 1247 00:50:47,792 --> 00:50:50,083 - And then a guy that I've partnered with 1248 00:50:50,166 --> 00:50:54,166 in a ticket business gets arrested by the FBI. 1249 00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:58,333 - We investigated Joe Meli for some illegal activity 1250 00:50:58,417 --> 00:51:01,250 around secondary market sales of tickets, 1251 00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:02,875 and in the course of that investigation, 1252 00:51:02,959 --> 00:51:06,041 we saw some communications and some financial transactions 1253 00:51:06,125 --> 00:51:08,083 that he had with Craig Carton, 1254 00:51:08,166 --> 00:51:10,041 and so as we began to look into Mr. Meli, 1255 00:51:10,125 --> 00:51:12,375 we started to look into Mr. Carton's activity 1256 00:51:12,458 --> 00:51:13,750 as well. 1257 00:51:13,834 --> 00:51:16,041 - The FBI picked up Joe Meli, 1258 00:51:16,125 --> 00:51:18,000 and once Craig got wind of the story, 1259 00:51:18,083 --> 00:51:19,542 he started to talk to me more and more about, 1260 00:51:19,625 --> 00:51:20,834 "I can't believe this is happening. 1261 00:51:20,917 --> 00:51:22,417 "How come nobody told me this guy was no good? 1262 00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:24,375 I can't believe I'm wrapped up in this." 1263 00:51:24,458 --> 00:51:27,041 - Ultimately, what Craig did was 1264 00:51:27,125 --> 00:51:30,291 defraud a hedge fund of money that they invested 1265 00:51:30,375 --> 00:51:32,750 in what they thought was legitimate business. 1266 00:51:32,834 --> 00:51:35,083 - What he actually used the funds for was to pay off 1267 00:51:35,166 --> 00:51:38,291 old investors in some of these other similar schemes 1268 00:51:38,375 --> 00:51:41,500 and to repay debts, particularly gambling debts. 1269 00:51:41,583 --> 00:51:43,458 - The one thing I'm guilty of 1270 00:51:43,542 --> 00:51:46,750 is misappropriating the hedge fund's money. 1271 00:51:46,834 --> 00:51:47,917 I spent their money 1272 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,417 five weeks before the money should've been spent. 1273 00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:54,125 Now, I still bought everything they expected me to buy, 1274 00:51:54,208 --> 00:51:56,750 but still, the timing of when I did it 1275 00:51:56,834 --> 00:51:57,792 is illegal. 1276 00:51:57,875 --> 00:51:59,375 - You can't take money for one purpose 1277 00:51:59,458 --> 00:52:02,959 and use it for another in business. 1278 00:52:06,709 --> 00:52:10,750 - It's mentally draining to live life, 1279 00:52:10,834 --> 00:52:13,583 and then live a secret life 1280 00:52:13,667 --> 00:52:17,792 and to mentally process all the lies you've told. 1281 00:52:17,875 --> 00:52:19,166 Clearly, the amount of crap 1282 00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:21,917 going on inside my head was overwhelming. 1283 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,792 I've got my gambling crap over here, 1284 00:52:24,875 --> 00:52:27,500 I've got my work responsibilities here, 1285 00:52:27,583 --> 00:52:30,291 I've got my family responsibilities here, 1286 00:52:30,375 --> 00:52:32,667 and now I'm juggling, 1287 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:35,667 and I'm juggling on a high wire. 1288 00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:39,083 Because now I'm worried, "They arrested this guy. 1289 00:52:39,166 --> 00:52:40,750 "They're gonna come talk to me at some point. 1290 00:52:40,834 --> 00:52:42,125 We did business together." 1291 00:52:42,208 --> 00:52:43,667 I was mentally drained. 1292 00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:48,417 ♪ ♪ 1293 00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:51,542 My wife and I went to Whistler, British Columbia, 1294 00:52:51,625 --> 00:52:55,208 for just an adult vacation. 1295 00:52:55,291 --> 00:52:56,709 So I get on the lift 1296 00:52:56,792 --> 00:52:58,208 and I took it to the top of the mountain 1297 00:52:58,291 --> 00:53:00,667 and I'm kinda admiring the scenery on the way up. 1298 00:53:00,750 --> 00:53:03,166 It's a beautiful place. 1299 00:53:03,250 --> 00:53:05,583 I eat lunch, I have a couple drinks, 1300 00:53:05,667 --> 00:53:07,709 and after about an hour or so, 1301 00:53:07,792 --> 00:53:09,542 I decide it's time to go back down. 1302 00:53:09,625 --> 00:53:13,166 I'm gonna meet my wife. 1303 00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:15,875 So I get on the lift chair by myself, 1304 00:53:15,959 --> 00:53:18,291 and as I'm going down, 1305 00:53:18,375 --> 00:53:22,500 I now have a desire to jump... 1306 00:53:22,583 --> 00:53:25,000 off the lift chair, down to the mountain. 1307 00:53:25,083 --> 00:53:28,000 [ominous music] 1308 00:53:28,083 --> 00:53:31,500 ♪ ♪ 1309 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,750 I lifted the bar up 1310 00:53:33,834 --> 00:53:36,458 and I'm now inching closer to the edge of the seat. 1311 00:53:38,959 --> 00:53:41,208 And I got very upset. 1312 00:53:41,291 --> 00:53:42,709 I started crying, 1313 00:53:42,792 --> 00:53:45,667 and I had this... 1314 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:48,875 out loud conversation with myself. 1315 00:53:48,959 --> 00:53:51,041 And I'm tell--"Don't do it. Don't do it. 1316 00:53:51,125 --> 00:53:54,041 You're better than this. You're not jumping." 1317 00:53:54,125 --> 00:53:56,333 And as I'm telling myself not to do it, 1318 00:53:56,417 --> 00:54:00,250 I'm inching closer and closer to the edge of the seat, 1319 00:54:00,333 --> 00:54:01,250 'cause I'm going. 1320 00:54:01,333 --> 00:54:03,083 There's no doubt in my mind, 1321 00:54:03,166 --> 00:54:04,834 I'm jumping off this chairlift. 1322 00:54:04,917 --> 00:54:05,917 It's just a matter of when. 1323 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:12,417 ♪ ♪ 1324 00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,875 Fortunately, I had my phone with me. 1325 00:54:14,959 --> 00:54:17,125 And I just called the first person whose name I saw 1326 00:54:17,208 --> 00:54:20,125 that I knew was a friend. 1327 00:54:20,208 --> 00:54:22,208 - I'm just going about my day. 1328 00:54:22,291 --> 00:54:24,917 I get a phone call from Craig. 1329 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,750 I didn't understand, really, what he was saying. 1330 00:54:26,834 --> 00:54:29,750 He was outta control, inconsolable. 1331 00:54:29,834 --> 00:54:33,083 He was truly in a desperate situation. 1332 00:54:33,166 --> 00:54:35,625 - And I said, "I need you to just talk to me. 1333 00:54:35,709 --> 00:54:37,250 "I'm gonna hurt myself. 1334 00:54:37,333 --> 00:54:39,458 I'm about to jump off a chairlift." 1335 00:54:39,542 --> 00:54:41,000 And I'm crying. 1336 00:54:43,875 --> 00:54:45,458 - Really, it was only maybe five seconds 1337 00:54:45,542 --> 00:54:48,959 before I went from him kidding to "This is actually real." 1338 00:54:49,041 --> 00:54:53,083 ♪ ♪ 1339 00:54:53,166 --> 00:54:54,583 - He talked. 1340 00:54:54,667 --> 00:54:58,125 He talked to me for however long it was. 1341 00:54:58,208 --> 00:54:59,125 - So all I could say 1342 00:54:59,208 --> 00:55:00,125 at that point was, "I love you." 1343 00:55:00,208 --> 00:55:01,125 "Listen, I love you. 1344 00:55:01,208 --> 00:55:02,208 "You're gonna make it to the bottom. 1345 00:55:02,291 --> 00:55:03,333 "You're gonna get to the bottom of this thing. 1346 00:55:03,417 --> 00:55:07,250 You're not gonna jump." 1347 00:55:07,333 --> 00:55:09,834 And slowly but surely, the yelling stopped 1348 00:55:09,917 --> 00:55:11,667 and the breathing started to slow down. 1349 00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:13,625 I just kinda coaxed him down for the last few bits. 1350 00:55:13,709 --> 00:55:16,500 [soft music] 1351 00:55:16,583 --> 00:55:18,959 And the crazy part about it is, 1352 00:55:19,041 --> 00:55:21,083 just as he gets off of the ski lift... 1353 00:55:21,166 --> 00:55:22,291 - I said, "Go eff yourself. 1354 00:55:22,375 --> 00:55:23,750 I'll talk to you about this later." 1355 00:55:23,834 --> 00:55:24,792 - Click, and just hangs up, 1356 00:55:24,875 --> 00:55:28,792 and I was like, "Oh, uh, that's it." 1357 00:55:28,875 --> 00:55:31,834 He needed me, I was there, 1358 00:55:31,917 --> 00:55:33,375 and then on to the next. 1359 00:55:36,041 --> 00:55:38,667 - Thankfully, I haven't felt that way since. 1360 00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:40,709 But I absolutely was gonna jump. 1361 00:55:40,792 --> 00:55:44,166 There was no doubt about it. 1362 00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:47,208 [tense music] 1363 00:55:47,291 --> 00:55:53,041 ♪ ♪ 1364 00:55:53,125 --> 00:55:55,959 The morning of September 6, 2017, 1365 00:55:56,041 --> 00:55:57,542 that was our first night ever 1366 00:55:57,625 --> 00:56:00,875 living in this new apartment we had moved into. 1367 00:56:00,959 --> 00:56:02,792 I got up at 3:00 in the morning. 1368 00:56:02,875 --> 00:56:06,625 I called Uber to take me to work. 1369 00:56:06,709 --> 00:56:08,375 I walked out of the apartment. 1370 00:56:08,458 --> 00:56:11,000 There was a woman coming up the stairs, 1371 00:56:11,083 --> 00:56:13,458 and she immediately said, "Are you Craig Carton?" 1372 00:56:13,542 --> 00:56:14,709 "Yes, I am." 1373 00:56:14,792 --> 00:56:16,750 "FBI. You're under arrest." 1374 00:56:19,083 --> 00:56:23,542 That was my "day of reckoning." 1375 00:56:23,625 --> 00:56:25,417 I was immediately cuffed. 1376 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:27,875 Then they brought me to the park bench 1377 00:56:27,959 --> 00:56:31,000 and told me to call my wife. 1378 00:56:31,083 --> 00:56:32,417 I woke her up. 1379 00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:33,834 You know, probably the worst phone call 1380 00:56:33,917 --> 00:56:35,375 I ever had to make. 1381 00:56:35,458 --> 00:56:37,375 And when she came down, she had this terrible look 1382 00:56:37,458 --> 00:56:41,041 of, you know, sadness on her face and bewilderment. 1383 00:56:41,125 --> 00:56:43,875 It's still dark outside, 1384 00:56:43,959 --> 00:56:47,041 and I'm sitting there handcuffed to a park bench 1385 00:56:47,125 --> 00:56:49,750 surrounded by FBI agents. 1386 00:56:49,834 --> 00:56:54,542 ♪ ♪ 1387 00:56:54,625 --> 00:56:58,166 - I drive in with Jerry Recco on a lot of days. 1388 00:56:58,250 --> 00:57:02,083 We had just parked the car, and my phone rings. 1389 00:57:02,166 --> 00:57:04,458 It was Craig's wife, Kim. 1390 00:57:04,542 --> 00:57:05,625 - And I remember him looking at it, 1391 00:57:05,709 --> 00:57:08,291 looking at me, and saying, "This isn't good." 1392 00:57:08,375 --> 00:57:11,875 - Kim said, "Al, Craig will not be in today." 1393 00:57:11,959 --> 00:57:13,333 I said, "Okay." 1394 00:57:13,417 --> 00:57:14,917 I said, "Is everything okay?" 1395 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,625 She said, "No, but I can't talk to you right now about it." 1396 00:57:18,709 --> 00:57:20,458 - "Something's going on, Craig's not coming in, 1397 00:57:20,542 --> 00:57:21,583 so you have to host." 1398 00:57:21,667 --> 00:57:22,625 That was it. 1399 00:57:22,709 --> 00:57:23,750 "Okay. That's fine. 1400 00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:24,792 "Maybe they had an argument. 1401 00:57:24,875 --> 00:57:26,458 Maybe one of the kids was sick." 1402 00:57:26,542 --> 00:57:28,750 Never thought anything of it other than, "Ugh, 1403 00:57:28,834 --> 00:57:30,125 now I gotta go in there for four hours," 1404 00:57:30,208 --> 00:57:31,375 really unprepared. 1405 00:57:31,458 --> 00:57:34,875 ♪ ♪ 1406 00:57:34,959 --> 00:57:38,250 - It's only a little bit after 4:00 in the morning now, 1407 00:57:38,333 --> 00:57:39,500 so there's no traffic, 1408 00:57:39,583 --> 00:57:41,125 there's no hustle and bustle yet of New York. 1409 00:57:41,208 --> 00:57:48,166 ♪ ♪ 1410 00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:49,417 - There were two young agents. 1411 00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:51,583 One of them made a point of telling me 1412 00:57:51,667 --> 00:57:53,625 how big a fan he was of mine, 1413 00:57:53,709 --> 00:57:55,792 and this was kind of a surreal moment for him. 1414 00:57:55,875 --> 00:57:59,125 - He was, you know, shocked a little bit at first, 1415 00:57:59,208 --> 00:58:01,458 but he was, you know, very calm 1416 00:58:01,542 --> 00:58:03,792 and he was actually very respectful as well. 1417 00:58:03,875 --> 00:58:05,458 He did say to the agents at one point, 1418 00:58:05,542 --> 00:58:07,417 "I just want you guys to know that I respect you 1419 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:10,792 and I respect what you do." 1420 00:58:10,875 --> 00:58:13,583 - They drove me to Federal Plaza, 1421 00:58:13,667 --> 00:58:16,291 and there was a guard in the guard tower, 1422 00:58:16,375 --> 00:58:18,250 and it was the first time I ever heard myself 1423 00:58:18,333 --> 00:58:21,333 being referred to as a criminal. 1424 00:58:21,417 --> 00:58:22,959 They were very nonchalant. 1425 00:58:23,041 --> 00:58:25,458 "Hey, we got one criminal in the back." 1426 00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:30,834 - All righty. Here we are. 1427 00:58:30,917 --> 00:58:33,792 Al Dukes comes to me and says, "Kim just called. 1428 00:58:33,875 --> 00:58:35,333 Craig's not coming in today." 1429 00:58:35,417 --> 00:58:38,792 ♪ ♪ 1430 00:58:38,875 --> 00:58:41,291 - As the morning show was getting close to 6:00, 1431 00:58:41,375 --> 00:58:42,625 Craig wasn't there. 1432 00:58:42,709 --> 00:58:45,250 He had appeared to be under the weather 1433 00:58:45,333 --> 00:58:48,291 for a few days before and sluggish. 1434 00:58:48,375 --> 00:58:50,667 - He was a little edgy the day before. 1435 00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:53,166 He was actually even, I believe, sleeping 1436 00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:56,500 in between, you know, some of our commercial breaks. 1437 00:58:56,583 --> 00:58:57,917 I figured there was something wrong, 1438 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,166 but I had no idea what it was. 1439 00:59:01,250 --> 00:59:03,375 - WFAN-FM, New York. 1440 00:59:03,458 --> 00:59:05,834 It's "Boomer and Carton" on The FAN. 1441 00:59:05,917 --> 00:59:10,125 - September 6, 2017, was my 55th birthday. 1442 00:59:11,417 --> 00:59:15,291 And I flipped on "Boomer and Carton" 1443 00:59:15,375 --> 00:59:16,875 and only saw Boomer. 1444 00:59:16,959 --> 00:59:19,500 - I remember opening the show as, 1445 00:59:19,583 --> 00:59:21,500 "Numb Nuts is not here today." 1446 00:59:21,583 --> 00:59:23,542 If you hear me starting the show, 1447 00:59:23,625 --> 00:59:25,417 that means Numb Nuts is under the weather. 1448 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,000 - [laughs] - And he's not here. 1449 00:59:27,083 --> 00:59:28,208 - And it was pretty clear to me 1450 00:59:28,291 --> 00:59:30,625 that they didn't know why Craig wasn't there. 1451 00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:36,375 - They brought me into a very small office room 1452 00:59:36,458 --> 00:59:38,375 and then cuffed me to something 1453 00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:39,709 on the side of the wall, 1454 00:59:39,792 --> 00:59:41,875 and I was sitting at a table basically 1455 00:59:41,959 --> 00:59:43,542 for the next four hours. 1456 00:59:43,625 --> 00:59:48,083 - We don't handle celebrities or people of any notability 1457 00:59:48,166 --> 00:59:49,625 any different than anyone else we arrest. 1458 00:59:49,709 --> 00:59:51,250 If you're being arrested by the FBI, 1459 00:59:51,333 --> 00:59:52,458 you're being arrested by the FBI 1460 00:59:52,542 --> 00:59:54,750 because you committed a federal crime. 1461 00:59:54,834 --> 00:59:55,917 He definitely was not 1462 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,750 the Craig Carton you heard on the radio though. 1463 00:59:57,834 --> 00:59:58,750 He didn't have 1464 00:59:58,834 --> 01:00:00,542 that brash personality that day. 1465 01:00:00,625 --> 01:00:02,750 - They brought me, like, a snack bar or something to eat 1466 01:00:02,834 --> 01:00:04,083 and a soda, 1467 01:00:04,166 --> 01:00:07,250 and then press release went out. 1468 01:00:07,333 --> 01:00:10,625 - And it was probably in the 7:00 hour 1469 01:00:10,709 --> 01:00:12,083 when I started to see 1470 01:00:12,166 --> 01:00:14,583 the alerts come across on Twitter 1471 01:00:14,667 --> 01:00:16,917 that Craig had been arrested. 1472 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,083 Most of us thought it was something... 1473 01:00:20,166 --> 01:00:22,959 smoking pot, maybe a DUI. 1474 01:00:23,041 --> 01:00:26,750 - It was about an hour later that it comes out 1475 01:00:26,834 --> 01:00:30,583 that he was arrested by the FBI. 1476 01:00:30,667 --> 01:00:31,875 Boom. 1477 01:00:31,959 --> 01:00:34,458 - "Boomer and Carton" cohost Craig Carton was arrested 1478 01:00:34,542 --> 01:00:36,000 at his home on federal charges 1479 01:00:36,083 --> 01:00:38,667 related to white-collar crime early this morning. 1480 01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:42,000 It's unclear what those charges are. 1481 01:00:42,083 --> 01:00:44,250 - I called Al Dukes 1482 01:00:44,333 --> 01:00:46,709 and I said, "Al, what is going on?" 1483 01:00:46,792 --> 01:00:49,291 And he said, "The FBI arrested him." 1484 01:00:49,375 --> 01:00:50,542 And I said, "For what?" 1485 01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:52,625 And he said, "I have no idea." 1486 01:00:52,709 --> 01:00:54,625 - All right, it's 7:36 on The FAN. 1487 01:00:54,709 --> 01:00:55,917 "Boomer and Carton" in the morning. 1488 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,792 Jerry Recco sitting in the power chair this morning 1489 01:00:57,875 --> 01:00:58,792 for Craigy. 1490 01:00:58,875 --> 01:01:00,041 - I was stunned, 1491 01:01:00,125 --> 01:01:01,458 and you start to think, like, 1492 01:01:01,542 --> 01:01:03,125 "What has he gotten himself into?" 1493 01:01:03,208 --> 01:01:04,417 - [laughs] 1494 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:06,125 Mark Chernoff, our program director, 1495 01:01:06,208 --> 01:01:08,291 comes running into the studio and says, "Don't say anything! 1496 01:01:08,375 --> 01:01:10,500 Don't say anything!" 1497 01:01:10,583 --> 01:01:12,625 And I'm like, "Don't say anything? 1498 01:01:12,709 --> 01:01:14,000 "I mean, we're a talk show, 1499 01:01:14,083 --> 01:01:16,834 "and the talk show host that is not here 1500 01:01:16,917 --> 01:01:19,333 "is arrested by the FBI, for Christ's sake. 1501 01:01:19,417 --> 01:01:21,500 What am I supposed to say?" 1502 01:01:21,583 --> 01:01:23,417 - All right, top of the hour, 9:00. 1503 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:25,375 "Boomer and Carton" on The FAN. 1504 01:01:25,458 --> 01:01:26,709 I am sitting in for Craig 1505 01:01:26,792 --> 01:01:28,500 and Boomer will be back in just a moment. 1506 01:01:28,583 --> 01:01:29,792 We got a lot going on. 1507 01:01:29,875 --> 01:01:31,333 - Radio's an interesting thing 1508 01:01:31,417 --> 01:01:34,000 in that it doesn't stop for anything. 1509 01:01:34,083 --> 01:01:37,000 You kinda have to roll with the changes. 1510 01:01:37,083 --> 01:01:38,166 - And I gotta look in the camera 1511 01:01:38,250 --> 01:01:40,208 and I gotta say, "Well... 1512 01:01:40,291 --> 01:01:42,333 "now I know why my partner's not here this morning. 1513 01:01:42,417 --> 01:01:44,500 He's been arrested by the FBI." 1514 01:01:44,583 --> 01:01:46,834 I am aware, now, why Craig is not here this morning. 1515 01:01:46,917 --> 01:01:50,000 Unfortunately, he was arrested this morning. 1516 01:01:50,083 --> 01:01:52,875 Over here at the station, they're aware of it as well. 1517 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,542 They're cooperating with authorities. 1518 01:01:55,625 --> 01:01:58,083 I'm taken aback and surprised by it, 1519 01:01:58,166 --> 01:01:59,959 just like I'm sure everybody else is. 1520 01:02:00,041 --> 01:02:02,417 I have no other information. There's nothing else I can say. 1521 01:02:02,500 --> 01:02:04,583 I thought he called in sick this morning, 1522 01:02:04,667 --> 01:02:06,959 but unfortunately, my partner was arrested, 1523 01:02:07,041 --> 01:02:10,041 so I guess there'll be more news to come, I'm sure, 1524 01:02:10,125 --> 01:02:11,083 from somewhere. 1525 01:02:11,166 --> 01:02:12,875 "But at this moment, I'm as shocked 1526 01:02:12,959 --> 01:02:14,208 as everybody else." 1527 01:02:14,291 --> 01:02:16,333 Because I was. 1528 01:02:16,417 --> 01:02:17,834 And not only shocked. 1529 01:02:17,917 --> 01:02:18,875 I was angry. 1530 01:02:18,959 --> 01:02:21,542 I was brokenhearted over the whole thing. 1531 01:02:21,625 --> 01:02:28,375 ♪ ♪ 1532 01:02:28,458 --> 01:02:31,041 - And then it all started clicking into place 1533 01:02:31,125 --> 01:02:33,875 that he was doing the old shell game, 1534 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,959 just pay off the gambling debts. 1535 01:02:37,041 --> 01:02:38,375 - The formal charges that were brought 1536 01:02:38,458 --> 01:02:40,625 were securities fraud, wire fraud, 1537 01:02:40,709 --> 01:02:43,083 and then conspiracy to commit those offenses. 1538 01:02:43,166 --> 01:02:44,917 Basically, that just means he lied to people 1539 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,875 to solicit funds from them and did that with other people. 1540 01:02:48,959 --> 01:02:51,417 - Shortly after that, I was in front of a judge. 1541 01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:52,750 It's surreal. 1542 01:02:52,834 --> 01:02:54,542 Like, this can't possibly be happening. 1543 01:02:54,625 --> 01:02:58,583 ♪ ♪ 1544 01:02:58,667 --> 01:02:59,959 You know, the courtroom was packed, 1545 01:03:00,041 --> 01:03:01,583 and it's all media. 1546 01:03:01,667 --> 01:03:04,083 The judge made a wisecrack about, 1547 01:03:04,166 --> 01:03:05,750 "Apparently, there's a lot of sports fans 1548 01:03:05,834 --> 01:03:06,792 here in the building today." 1549 01:03:06,875 --> 01:03:12,291 ♪ ♪ 1550 01:03:12,375 --> 01:03:15,917 I remember seeing my wife, my brother. 1551 01:03:16,041 --> 01:03:17,792 That was very upsetting to me, 1552 01:03:17,875 --> 01:03:19,959 to see people I loved and cared for 1553 01:03:20,041 --> 01:03:21,959 who are there looking at me, 1554 01:03:22,041 --> 01:03:24,834 you know, as a potential criminal. 1555 01:03:26,709 --> 01:03:28,959 - All right, it's 9:59 on The FAN. 1556 01:03:29,041 --> 01:03:29,959 "Boomer and Carton" here. 1557 01:03:30,041 --> 01:03:31,959 This is me signing off for today, 1558 01:03:32,041 --> 01:03:33,625 and it's been a very interesting day 1559 01:03:33,709 --> 01:03:35,709 around here at WFAN for sure. 1560 01:03:35,792 --> 01:03:38,959 - I spoke to Boomer after the show was over. 1561 01:03:39,041 --> 01:03:41,166 He said to me, "I think he's got real trouble here." 1562 01:03:41,250 --> 01:03:47,500 ♪ ♪ 1563 01:03:47,583 --> 01:03:49,125 - I knew we were popular, 1564 01:03:49,208 --> 01:03:51,458 but when I walked out of that courtroom, 1565 01:03:51,542 --> 01:03:53,959 I mean, I've never experienced anything like that in my life. 1566 01:03:54,041 --> 01:03:57,500 [crowd shouting] 1567 01:03:57,583 --> 01:03:59,166 I mean, it was like "Lord of the Flies" 1568 01:03:59,250 --> 01:04:00,875 amongst the media to get in my face 1569 01:04:00,959 --> 01:04:03,166 with a camera or a microphone. 1570 01:04:03,250 --> 01:04:04,875 You know, personal space meant nothing. 1571 01:04:04,959 --> 01:04:08,667 ♪ ♪ 1572 01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:10,583 - When you see the video footage of him 1573 01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:12,208 coming from the courthouse, 1574 01:04:12,291 --> 01:04:15,667 I mean, jaw-dropping doesn't even begin to--I was stunned. 1575 01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:19,166 ♪ ♪ 1576 01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:21,542 - I was hoping it was some kind of mistake. 1577 01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:26,166 ♪ ♪ 1578 01:04:26,250 --> 01:04:27,417 But it's highly unlikely 1579 01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:30,333 that federal prosecutors are gonna drop these charges. 1580 01:04:30,417 --> 01:04:33,166 Especially with a big public figure, 1581 01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:35,667 you usually shoot to kill. 1582 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:37,709 You don't shoot to wound. 1583 01:04:37,792 --> 01:04:40,250 And you usually don't miss the shot. 1584 01:04:40,333 --> 01:04:42,875 - I knew right away that I was screwed job-wise. 1585 01:04:42,959 --> 01:04:44,333 There was no doubt in my mind. 1586 01:04:44,417 --> 01:04:49,041 ♪ ♪ 1587 01:04:49,125 --> 01:04:51,125 - That was the moment that that show was over. 1588 01:04:59,291 --> 01:05:01,166 - I wanna say thank you to all of our listeners 1589 01:05:01,250 --> 01:05:02,417 that reached out to me yesterday. 1590 01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:04,542 As you can imagine, my phone blew up 1591 01:05:04,625 --> 01:05:06,875 as everybody was finding out what was going on. 1592 01:05:06,959 --> 01:05:08,875 - For ten years, we were one 1593 01:05:08,959 --> 01:05:12,375 of the most listened to sports talk radio shows in America. 1594 01:05:12,458 --> 01:05:13,583 And for those ten years, 1595 01:05:13,667 --> 01:05:15,250 we never had a single argument. 1596 01:05:15,333 --> 01:05:17,375 Never had a single fight. 1597 01:05:17,458 --> 01:05:18,834 We were kinda brothers in arms. 1598 01:05:18,917 --> 01:05:20,417 - I just want people to know out there 1599 01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:22,417 that I loved my partner for ten years. 1600 01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:24,250 I still love my partner. 1601 01:05:24,333 --> 01:05:26,083 We tried to have a conversation here or there 1602 01:05:26,166 --> 01:05:28,208 and, you know, it never went well 1603 01:05:28,291 --> 01:05:29,583 because he didn't wanna understand, 1604 01:05:29,667 --> 01:05:30,917 I don't think he wanted to understand, 1605 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,583 that, you know, I have other people in my life 1606 01:05:32,667 --> 01:05:34,959 that are like, "Get the hell away from that guy. 1607 01:05:35,041 --> 01:05:37,583 He got arrested by the FBI." 1608 01:05:37,667 --> 01:05:40,458 - When you get arrested, you don't tell the FBI, 1609 01:05:40,542 --> 01:05:42,792 "Give me a minute. I gotta call 30 people." 1610 01:05:42,875 --> 01:05:44,291 So unfortunately, he found out 1611 01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:46,083 the way the rest of the world found out. 1612 01:05:46,166 --> 01:05:48,250 He either texted or emailed me back 1613 01:05:48,333 --> 01:05:50,917 that he needed a few days before he could call me. 1614 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,083 - It took me a while. 1615 01:05:52,166 --> 01:05:53,291 It took me a while. 1616 01:05:53,375 --> 01:05:56,542 And the reason it took me a while was because 1617 01:05:56,625 --> 01:05:58,458 I felt like I didn't wanna know, you know? 1618 01:05:58,542 --> 01:06:01,417 I just--I don't wanna know all the seedy details. 1619 01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:03,291 [dramatic music] 1620 01:06:03,375 --> 01:06:05,250 I didn't wanna get myself embroiled 1621 01:06:05,333 --> 01:06:07,917 in what he had to do to defend himself. 1622 01:06:10,375 --> 01:06:11,583 They told me to read this. 1623 01:06:11,667 --> 01:06:13,959 "My cohost Craig Carton has been suspended from this show 1624 01:06:14,041 --> 01:06:15,583 until further notice." 1625 01:06:15,667 --> 01:06:18,750 ♪ ♪ 1626 01:06:18,834 --> 01:06:22,250 I remember him sending me a pretty negative email. 1627 01:06:22,333 --> 01:06:24,458 When I read the email, it made me puke, actually, 1628 01:06:24,542 --> 01:06:26,875 it was just so pathetic, but-- 1629 01:06:26,959 --> 01:06:28,959 and I remember that I was very angry 1630 01:06:29,041 --> 01:06:30,625 when I got the email because-- 1631 01:06:30,709 --> 01:06:31,959 [laughs] 1632 01:06:32,041 --> 01:06:34,166 You know, he talked about something 1633 01:06:34,250 --> 01:06:35,500 that we often talked about 1634 01:06:35,583 --> 01:06:36,792 when once of us would be in trouble. 1635 01:06:36,875 --> 01:06:38,291 You know, "We're foxhole guys." 1636 01:06:38,375 --> 01:06:39,959 That was something that we would always say. 1637 01:06:40,041 --> 01:06:41,125 "I got your back. I got your back. 1638 01:06:41,208 --> 01:06:42,417 You got my back." 1639 01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:44,417 And I always would tell him, like, "I'll be in your foxhole 1640 01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,000 "as long as you don't bring a hand grenade 1641 01:06:46,083 --> 01:06:48,792 in the foxhole with you." 1642 01:06:48,875 --> 01:06:50,834 I was very angry at that, 1643 01:06:50,917 --> 01:06:52,667 and that even pushed me 1644 01:06:52,750 --> 01:06:55,125 further away from him initially. 1645 01:06:55,208 --> 01:07:00,166 ♪ ♪ 1646 01:07:00,250 --> 01:07:02,166 - So he's mad at me that I ruined 1647 01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:04,291 what we had created. 1648 01:07:04,375 --> 01:07:07,542 He can be mad at me for that. He should be. 1649 01:07:07,625 --> 01:07:10,125 But I didn't do it on purpose. 1650 01:07:10,208 --> 01:07:13,834 I didn't set out to ruin, you know, "Boomer and Carton." 1651 01:07:13,917 --> 01:07:20,542 ♪ ♪ 1652 01:07:21,542 --> 01:07:24,625 - He told me, "Nothing to this. 1653 01:07:24,709 --> 01:07:26,208 "It's a bunch of mistakes. 1654 01:07:26,291 --> 01:07:27,542 "They're gonna get to the bottom of it 1655 01:07:27,625 --> 01:07:28,709 "and then they're gonna just, 1656 01:07:28,792 --> 01:07:30,917 you know, drop any charges against him." 1657 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,834 - And I pleaded not guilty to the charges against me. 1658 01:07:33,917 --> 01:07:35,667 I did that for one reason: 1659 01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:37,917 because I am unequivocally not guilty 1660 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,500 of what I'm being charged with. 1661 01:07:39,583 --> 01:07:41,208 - He took loans 1662 01:07:41,291 --> 01:07:45,375 and did not immediately purchase tickets 1663 01:07:45,458 --> 01:07:47,333 with those moneys, 1664 01:07:47,417 --> 01:07:51,041 but treated those moneys as if they were fungible 1665 01:07:51,125 --> 01:07:53,667 and purchased tickets at a later date. 1666 01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:55,875 - If you are soliciting investments from people 1667 01:07:55,959 --> 01:07:57,583 and you do something other than what you say 1668 01:07:57,667 --> 01:07:59,041 you're going to do with the money, 1669 01:07:59,125 --> 01:08:02,417 that is fraud. 1670 01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:04,041 - Radio host Craig Carton. 1671 01:08:04,125 --> 01:08:07,041 This afternoon, a jury convicted him. 1672 01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:09,417 Carton was accused of swindling investors 1673 01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:12,750 in a ticket reselling business. 1674 01:08:12,834 --> 01:08:14,083 - When it finally came to fruition 1675 01:08:14,166 --> 01:08:17,291 that he was found guilty and there was no defense, 1676 01:08:17,375 --> 01:08:18,458 he realized that was the end of it 1677 01:08:18,542 --> 01:08:21,417 and that was the reality of it. 1678 01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:24,709 - On the day of sentencing, Carton was subdued. 1679 01:08:24,792 --> 01:08:27,417 You know, this is kinda the walk of shame here. 1680 01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:29,208 I think he was wearing a jacket and even a tie. 1681 01:08:29,291 --> 01:08:30,959 I had never seen him do that before. 1682 01:08:31,041 --> 01:08:33,375 He was like a chastised kid. 1683 01:08:33,458 --> 01:08:35,625 He got up and addressed the court 1684 01:08:35,709 --> 01:08:36,750 and delivered, you know, 1685 01:08:36,834 --> 01:08:39,250 an emotional, soul-baring account 1686 01:08:39,333 --> 01:08:41,875 of his gambling addiction, of his sexual abuse, 1687 01:08:41,959 --> 01:08:44,417 of his regret. 1688 01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:45,417 His family was there. 1689 01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:47,125 You know, it was hard to see the family. 1690 01:08:47,208 --> 01:08:51,625 ♪ ♪ 1691 01:08:51,709 --> 01:08:55,792 - Judge McMahon sentenced Craig to 3 1/2 years, 1692 01:08:55,875 --> 01:08:58,208 and he has to pay restitution 1693 01:08:58,291 --> 01:09:01,458 back to the victims in his criminal case. 1694 01:09:01,542 --> 01:09:02,792 - The feeling you have when you look 1695 01:09:02,875 --> 01:09:05,291 at Craig Carton's situation is sadness, 1696 01:09:05,375 --> 01:09:06,792 because there are no winners. 1697 01:09:06,875 --> 01:09:08,333 There's nothing good that came 1698 01:09:08,417 --> 01:09:10,125 of the trouble he got himself in. 1699 01:09:10,208 --> 01:09:12,667 There was only losers. 1700 01:09:12,750 --> 01:09:15,792 - You look at the talent, 1701 01:09:15,875 --> 01:09:19,291 the friendships, the lies, 1702 01:09:19,375 --> 01:09:21,083 and you just say to yourself, "Why? 1703 01:09:21,166 --> 01:09:22,458 Why?" 1704 01:09:22,542 --> 01:09:26,959 ♪ ♪ 1705 01:09:27,041 --> 01:09:30,625 - All of a sudden, it's like, "Wow, that ten years is gone." 1706 01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:31,875 You know, as fast as it happened, 1707 01:09:31,959 --> 01:09:33,125 that's how quick it ended. 1708 01:09:33,208 --> 01:09:39,208 ♪ ♪ 1709 01:09:45,458 --> 01:09:48,375 [somber music] 1710 01:09:48,458 --> 01:09:49,875 ♪ ♪ 1711 01:09:49,959 --> 01:09:52,667 - Day 371. 1712 01:09:52,750 --> 01:09:55,333 In prison jargon, I have two sleeps and a wake 1713 01:09:55,417 --> 01:09:57,500 before I leave this place. 1714 01:09:57,583 --> 01:09:59,917 For the first month, my wife and family wrote me 1715 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,667 every single day. 1716 01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:03,959 I saved every one of those letters. 1717 01:10:04,041 --> 01:10:05,834 They mean the world to me. 1718 01:10:05,917 --> 01:10:08,333 I've been away from them for a year. 1719 01:10:08,417 --> 01:10:09,542 I'm going to work hard 1720 01:10:09,625 --> 01:10:11,875 to rebuild my relationship with them 1721 01:10:11,959 --> 01:10:15,875 and everyone else in my life. 1722 01:10:15,959 --> 01:10:17,291 I'm excited and nervous. 1723 01:10:17,375 --> 01:10:19,583 Excited to leave this place behind, 1724 01:10:19,667 --> 01:10:22,959 but nervous because I have no idea what's waiting for me 1725 01:10:23,041 --> 01:10:25,000 beyond the gates. 1726 01:10:25,083 --> 01:10:26,583 I'm 51. 1727 01:10:26,667 --> 01:10:27,875 I had it all 1728 01:10:27,959 --> 01:10:29,709 and I lost it all, 1729 01:10:29,792 --> 01:10:33,375 and now I've gotta start all over again. 1730 01:10:33,458 --> 01:10:40,458 ♪ ♪ 1731 01:10:50,625 --> 01:10:53,250 - I see a number pop up on my screen 1732 01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:55,625 and I hear a very familiar voice saying, 1733 01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:57,583 "Hey, it's me. I'm out." 1734 01:10:57,667 --> 01:10:59,208 And it was Craigy. 1735 01:10:59,291 --> 01:11:00,750 He's paid his debt to society. 1736 01:11:00,834 --> 01:11:02,625 He did not get out because of coronavirus. 1737 01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:04,083 He got out because of all the things 1738 01:11:04,166 --> 01:11:05,959 he was doing in prison 1739 01:11:06,041 --> 01:11:09,792 to get early release. 1740 01:11:09,875 --> 01:11:12,917 What I heard was a happy and relieved Craig Carton. 1741 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,583 He was with his family yesterday. 1742 01:11:14,667 --> 01:11:16,792 They all went to pick him up at the penitentiary 1743 01:11:16,875 --> 01:11:17,917 and they brought him home, 1744 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,917 and now the real work begins for him, 1745 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,625 and that's rebuilding his life. 1746 01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:25,792 - There was a point where I thought 1747 01:11:25,875 --> 01:11:27,750 this day was never gonna come. 1748 01:11:27,834 --> 01:11:29,625 Greatest moment I had in over a year. 1749 01:11:29,709 --> 01:11:32,417 Just seeing my wife, seeing my four kids, 1750 01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:34,834 seeing the smiles on their faces 1751 01:11:34,917 --> 01:11:36,333 and the tears of joy 1752 01:11:36,417 --> 01:11:39,625 that their dad and husband finally got out of prison. 1753 01:11:39,709 --> 01:11:42,667 [solemn music] 1754 01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:48,291 ♪ ♪ 1755 01:11:48,375 --> 01:11:49,458 And now it's just about enjoying 1756 01:11:49,542 --> 01:11:50,583 all the little things. 1757 01:11:50,667 --> 01:11:52,625 Looking up in the sky, seeing the sun, clouds, 1758 01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:53,875 hearing birds chirp, 1759 01:11:53,959 --> 01:11:55,667 being able to walk down the street, 1760 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:58,667 being able to work, being able to spend time with my family, 1761 01:11:58,750 --> 01:12:00,166 and just having my freedom back, 1762 01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:03,333 which is something, for sure, I took for granted. 1763 01:12:03,417 --> 01:12:08,125 ♪ ♪ 1764 01:12:08,208 --> 01:12:10,458 Boomer was the very first person I called, 1765 01:12:10,542 --> 01:12:13,291 and I probably got to him about 27 minutes after 1766 01:12:13,375 --> 01:12:15,125 I actually walked out of prison. 1767 01:12:15,208 --> 01:12:17,834 It was important that he be the first person I called. 1768 01:12:17,917 --> 01:12:20,625 My relationship with him, it's had its ups and downs, 1769 01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:24,500 but all the downs were inflicted by my actions. 1770 01:12:24,583 --> 01:12:25,834 So I'm really happy to say 1771 01:12:25,917 --> 01:12:28,875 that Boomer and I are in a very good place now. 1772 01:12:28,959 --> 01:12:32,333 Closer than we've been in a long time. 1773 01:12:32,417 --> 01:12:33,709 He was mad at me, 1774 01:12:33,792 --> 01:12:35,375 and he had every right to be mad at me, 1775 01:12:35,458 --> 01:12:36,792 and the other guys on the show, 1776 01:12:36,875 --> 01:12:39,875 they had every right to be angry with me too. 1777 01:12:39,959 --> 01:12:42,041 I would love to just look in that camera 1778 01:12:42,125 --> 01:12:43,834 and one day look them all in the eye and just say 1779 01:12:43,917 --> 01:12:45,166 I'm sorry for being selfish 1780 01:12:45,250 --> 01:12:49,834 and into my own shit way too much 1781 01:12:49,917 --> 01:12:53,417 and not taking account of, you know, their wellbeing. 1782 01:12:55,417 --> 01:12:57,959 And I also have to be upfront with who I am, 1783 01:12:58,041 --> 01:12:59,917 and I have to do that 24/7. 1784 01:13:00,041 --> 01:13:01,875 That can never take a day off. 1785 01:13:01,959 --> 01:13:03,750 The pledge I made to the people 1786 01:13:03,834 --> 01:13:05,709 who did stay with me through prison 1787 01:13:05,792 --> 01:13:07,834 is that I'll do that. 1788 01:13:07,917 --> 01:13:10,041 They deserve me to be straight with them. 1789 01:13:10,125 --> 01:13:11,542 Honest with them. 1790 01:13:11,625 --> 01:13:13,083 And if I ever go back on that pledge, 1791 01:13:13,166 --> 01:13:16,291 I don't deserve those people to be there for me. 1792 01:13:17,792 --> 01:13:19,875 If I falter, I lose everything. 1793 01:13:19,959 --> 01:13:22,166 If I make those mistakes again, 1794 01:13:22,250 --> 01:13:24,041 I lose my family. 1795 01:13:24,125 --> 01:13:26,375 There's no, "Hey, you get another shot. 1796 01:13:26,458 --> 01:13:28,500 Hey, we're gonna sit through this crap"--no. 1797 01:13:28,583 --> 01:13:30,583 No, no, no. 1798 01:13:30,667 --> 01:13:34,125 If I go down the rabbit hole again, 1799 01:13:34,208 --> 01:13:35,583 it's over. 1800 01:13:35,667 --> 01:13:41,709 ♪ ♪ 1801 01:13:41,792 --> 01:13:43,417 What's important that it comes through 1802 01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:46,917 that I recognize why I went to prison. 1803 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,917 ♪ ♪ 1804 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,041 I take full ownership of every bad decision I made. 1805 01:13:53,125 --> 01:13:54,041 Every one of 'em. 1806 01:13:54,125 --> 01:13:57,917 ♪ ♪ 1807 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,709 No one forced me to do anything I did. 1808 01:13:59,792 --> 01:14:02,667 I was an adult in clear control of my actions. 1809 01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:09,041 Going to prison is a lifechanging experience, 1810 01:14:09,125 --> 01:14:10,917 and I emerged a better person. 1811 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,417 ♪ ♪ 1812 01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:16,291 What I learned about myself, 1813 01:14:16,375 --> 01:14:18,959 other than the fact that I'm a compulsive gambler, 1814 01:14:19,041 --> 01:14:22,291 is that I'm a lousy businessman 1815 01:14:22,375 --> 01:14:24,208 and I'm good at one thing, 1816 01:14:24,291 --> 01:14:26,750 and that's hosting a radio show. 1817 01:14:26,834 --> 01:14:29,208 When you come to terms with what you're good at 1818 01:14:29,291 --> 01:14:30,625 and what you're not good at 1819 01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:33,125 and can be honest about that, 1820 01:14:33,208 --> 01:14:35,542 man, that's liberating. 1821 01:14:37,583 --> 01:14:40,000 I've spent every day for the last year 1822 01:14:40,083 --> 01:14:42,917 dreaming of the opportunity to be back on the radio, 1823 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,250 and I can't wait just to flick a button 1824 01:14:46,333 --> 01:14:50,000 and welcome an audience into my world again. 1825 01:14:50,083 --> 01:14:57,083 ♪ ♪ 1826 01:15:09,417 --> 01:15:11,333 - ♪ Oh ♪ 1827 01:15:11,417 --> 01:15:12,500 ♪ Break ♪ 1828 01:15:12,583 --> 01:15:15,500 [rock music] 1829 01:15:15,583 --> 01:15:19,208 ♪ ♪ 1830 01:15:19,291 --> 01:15:20,208 ♪ Break ♪ 1831 01:15:20,291 --> 01:15:25,291 ♪ ♪ 1832 01:15:25,375 --> 01:15:27,291 ♪ Oh ♪ 1833 01:15:27,375 --> 01:15:34,375 ♪ ♪ 1834 01:15:47,792 --> 01:15:48,917 ♪ Hey ♪ 1835 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,709 ♪ ♪ 1836 01:15:55,792 --> 01:15:56,917 ♪ Hey ♪ 1837 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,208 ♪ ♪ 1838 01:15:59,291 --> 01:16:00,417 ♪ Break ♪ 1839 01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:07,208 ♪ ♪ 1840 01:16:07,291 --> 01:16:08,417 ♪ Break ♪ 1841 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