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- [Narrator] An attorney called
him "a thug for the Lord."

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His daughter dubbed him
"the rescue machine."

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To those who loved him, he was a hero.

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A tough, tenacious,
cantankerous, lovable hero.

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A proud Marine who took the heart both on

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and off the bench the motto,
"Leave no one behind".

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To his critics, he was
a bleeding heart liberal

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on the notorious Ninth
Circuit Court of Appeals,

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a would-be social engineer,
a judicial activist

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who ruled with his heart
instead of his head.

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He was a judge for over 50 years.

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When he died still on the
bench at 94, it was said,

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"In the field of law and public
interest, there are stars,

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there are superstars and then
there's Harry Pregerson."

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- This morning, Harry's family and I laid

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his body to rest at the
VA Cemetery in Westwood.

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We said Kaddish for
his soul and we laughed

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at the certainty with
which we knew that Harry

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after surveying his new surroundings

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would have said, "It's about time,

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I have always wanted to
live on the Westside."

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(audience laughs)

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That was Harry.

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Funny as hell.

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He did not care about
convention or much else,

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other than living in the
best tradition of the Hebrew

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prophets who railed against
oppression and hypocrisy

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and stupidity and anything
or anyone that subverted

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the rights of the poor or the
powerless or the vulnerable.

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- We all recognize this, right?

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This is the hardest thing
I've ever had to do.

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First of all, I want to thank you all

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for coming today to honor my dad.

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I loved him so much.

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I have to tell you, he was the best father

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in the entire world and
I know you loved him too.

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On the night that he passed
away, I sat in his office.

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At first glance when you walk in,

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it looks like Hurricane
Katrina just blew through it.

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There are papers everywhere.

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There's books everywhere,
pictures, mementos.

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You name it, it's all stuffed into this

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very messy office and
you could learn a lot

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from him just studying
what was on those shelves.

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As I went through his desk,
I found hundreds of letters,

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handwritten notes and cards.

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There were lots and lots of pictures,

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mostly pictures of my
beautiful mother, Bern.

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There were pictures of
my brother Dean and I.

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There were pictures of
the late Congressman

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Jim Corman, who was very dear to him.

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Pictures of guys he
served within the Marines

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and finally pictures of
lots and lots of people

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in this audience from the
Bell Shelter or the Courthouse

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or any one of the hundreds
of charity events that

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he was schlepping to almost
every night of the week.

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If you really wanted to
understand what made my dad tick,

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all you had to do was sit in that office.

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- Robert Alton Harris was strapped

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in a chair in the gas chamber.

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The acid bath was filling beneath him

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and then the telephone rang.

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- [Newswoman] That's when Federal

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Appeals Judge Harry Pregerson jumped in.

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- Evidently Federal Courts have ruled

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that San Diego County can
make welfare applicants

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submit to unannounced
searches of their homes.

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Bleeding heart judges
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"shameful," an "attack on the poor."

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One of them added "The government does not

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search through the closets and medicine

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cabinets of farmers receiving subsidies.

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They do not dig through the
laundry baskets and garbage

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pails of real estate developers
or radio broadcasters."

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Of course not, because those
people aren't on welfare.

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They receive corporate
subsidies, totally different.

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The Federal Appeals Court
based in San Francisco has

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refused to reinstate President
Trump's immigration order.

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- [Newswoman] President Trump's travel ban

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met its end at the Ninth
Circuit Court of Appeals.

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- [Protesters] The people united-

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- [Newswoman] By this
afternoon, the President

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was telling The Washington
Examiner he would

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absolutely consider breaking
up the Ninth Circuit.

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- You go to the Ninth
Circuit and it's a disgrace

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and I'm gonna put in a major complaint

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because you cannot win,
if you're us, a case

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in the Ninth Circuit and
I think it's a disgrace.

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- [Harry] I'm not gonna sign
any order that's gonna have

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the effect of kicking out of
this country kids who were

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born here and who have the
birthright as American citizens.

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I'm just not gonna do it because
I think it's morally wrong.

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My father was born in the Ukraine

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in a village called Kusrilla.

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He came here about 1904
and he landed in Boston.

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Ended up working in Chicago
and then the War came

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and he was drafted in the American Army

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and was in the Saint-Mihiel
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campaigns and he was badly wounded.

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My mother came here as the young girl.

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She lived in Philadelphia and worked

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in one of the sweatshops
for like $3 a week.

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They met here in Los Angeles.

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It was up real hustling, bustling place.

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People moving up and down the street,

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the Five & Dime and the
pool halls, delicatessens,

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creameries, bakeries, all the
great smells, the markets.

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You had poultry stores where

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the live chickens would running around.

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We lived on Sea View Avenue
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and it was heavily Jewish
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There were many Japanese families,

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Mexican families, Slavs, Italians.

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It was heavily Italian too.

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In grammar school, junior
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there was always an emphasis
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respect for others' cultural
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This was emphasized.

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In my high school, we had
52 different ethnic groups

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but everybody got along and
that was very important.

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- [Interviewer] Did you
experience any anti-Semitism?

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- [Harry] These kids, I
think they were Mexican,

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they asked me "Well, like what are you?"

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So I said "I'm a boy."

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"No, no, no, we want to know
whether you're a Jew or not."

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I said "Yeah" and then they

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wanted to know why I killed Christ.

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Then I worked for The
Broadway in Pasadena.

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That was a good job because
that paid like $5 a day.

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I was there for a few days

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and they found out I was
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- [Interviewer] That was
really your first experience?

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- [Harry] That was the real
first experience, yeah.

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- [Interviewer] When did you first

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begin to think about being a lawyer?

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- [Harry] Well, I think it
all came from my father.

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He used to go and listen
to Darrow in Chicago.

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He had Darrow's debates
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and from earliest childhood,

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I knew I was gonna go to law school.

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I used to go to the Ocean Park Pier.

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There were a lot of fishermen on the wharf

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and this guy's caught a big one

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and it's on the ground, so it's flopping.

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I just ran over and threw
it back in the ocean.

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Well the guy was mad as hell,
it was probably his supper.

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So the guy starts to run after me.

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But I just couldn't leave that boy alone.

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He was a humanitarian, but
I'll never forget that.

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- All of us were the
center of Harry's universe.

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He made sure that I felt like
a girl who could do anything,

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who was tough, who had the fortitude

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to really take care of
myself, to weather any storm.

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A turning point came when I was in

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the seventh grade and my mom announced

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that she was going back to
school to study microbiology.

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Bern told Harry that he needed to step up

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to the plate and assume
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of parenting and because
my dad was totally

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helpless in the kitchen,
we went out every night.

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Over dinner, he would tell me

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what a mediocre student he was.

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By far and away, the brightest

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in the class were always the girls.

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He'd say, "And what
happened to those girls?"

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Well, those girls got
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they put their husbands through college

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put 'em through graduate school,

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raised the kids and then what happened?

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Sometimes the husband would die.

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the husband would get bored

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and the marriage would end in divorce

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and it was too late for
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in her life to start
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It bothered him so much

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that these women never had an opportunity

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to really live up to their potential

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and then he'd tell me, "That's why Katie,

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you need to get a good education.

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You need to be your own boss.

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You need to make your own money.

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You need to determine
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you're lucky enough to marry
the man of your dreams."

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- What was it like to grow up with Harry?

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Just imagine you're a barely
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You are happily reading "The
Hardy Boys" mystery series,

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maybe watching a little "Sea Hunt" on TV.

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Harry strides up and hands you a poem.

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"Read it, it's called 'Invictus.'"

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"But why?"

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"It builds character."

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"Out of the night that covers me,

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black as the pit from pole to pole,

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I thank whatever gods may be
for my unconquerable soul.

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In the fell clutch of circumstance,

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I have not winced nor cried aloud.

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Under the bludgeonings of chance,

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my head is bloody but unbowed.

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Beyond this place of wrath and tears

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looms but the horror of the shade

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and yet the menace of the years

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finds and shall find me unafraid.

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It matters not how strait the gate,

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how charged with punishments the scroll,

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I am the master of my fate,

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I am the captain of my soul."

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When Harry was working
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washing dishes at
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he decided that he was gonna
run for Student Body President.

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Those were different times.

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Anti-Semitism was not in the shadows.

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There were restrictive
covenants and deeds.

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Some schools had quotas,

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private clubs had Jews
not allowed policies,

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anti-Semitic slogans
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No one who was Jewish had ever been

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elected Student Body President of UCLA.

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The other side smeared Harry, his heritage

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and just said terrible,
terrible things about him.

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Harry in despair went
to see the campus Rabbi.

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"What should I do, Rabbi?" he asked.

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The Rabbi said one word,
a word that carried

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Harry through the rest
of his life, "Fight."

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Harry the dishwasher
won by a good landslide.

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(explosions booming)

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It was 1944, the survival
of America was at stake.

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Harry enlisted in the
Marine Corps and soon

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found himself in Officer's
Training in Quantico, Virginia.

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Harry and three of his Marine

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buddies are sent to the Pacific.

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One is killed, one loses
an eye and one a leg.

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For Harry, it meant Okinawa.

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More than 200,000 perished
in the 82-day struggle,

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twice the number of
Japanese lost at Hiroshima

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and more American blood than
had been shed at Gettysburg.

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(anxious violin, trumpet music)

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It's May 3rd, 1945.

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Harry is wounded both ways by bullets

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from a machine gun shooting
Dum Dum exploding rounds.

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He's able to like flat
in a small depression

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of dirt while ordinance
flies in both directions.

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He slows the bleeding by using

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his belt and clothing as tourniquets.

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Through that long night alone, he hears

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"Marine, tonight you die.

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Marine, tonight you die."

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At dawn, two guys run
through hell to get him.

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They dropped him several times
sliding down embankments,

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trying to escape, trying to stay alive

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and this is where we remember that Harry

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is from East LA and proud of it.

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His friends were working class Latinos,

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Jews, Asians, Italians,
Irish, you name it.

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The guys that saved his life
were the Martinez cousins.

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He didn't know them, but he knew them.

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They were just like his buddies
from the old neighborhood.

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The greatest guys in the world.

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(anxious violin tones)

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(somber trumpet music)

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Harry had spent about a year

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at the Naval Hospital in San Diego.

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His weight went up from
110 to a healthy 175.

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He had a limp and he had a cane.

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One day, he was playing pool
with one of his buddies.

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Harry said "Hey, do you know
any girls I could meet?"

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His friend said "Well you
know, I'm going on a date

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with this girl and I'll ask
if she has any friends."

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Well, this car drives
up and Bern is sitting

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in the front seat with
Harry's friend who's driving.

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Harry opens the door, looks at Bern,

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looks at his date in the back seat

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and he sits in the front seat.

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(audience laughs)

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Is anyone surprised?

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And from that day forward,

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he knew he was going to marry her.

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- When I first met Harry,
he was on crutches.

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He was this handsome Marine

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and what could be more
romantic than a handsome

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Marine on crutches to an 18 year old girl?

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It was after about five or six times

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that I had gone out with Harry,

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I said "What do you want
to do with your life?"

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And he said without a minute's hesitation,

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"Oh, I want to help people."

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And he said, "So I'm
gonna go to law school

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and acquire the tools that
I'll need to do that."

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My background was living in Boyle Heights

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during the Depression,
growing up very poor.

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My father never had a permanent job.

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In fact, most of the time
he didn't have a job at all.

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He was a mechanic and they
were not hiring mechanics

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and so there were six
children and sometimes

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it was lean pickings when it came to food

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and I felt poor

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and so when I went to UCLA
the semester I met Harry,

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I couldn't believe how
beautiful those homes

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were around UCLA and I thought to myself

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you know, I'd really like one of those.

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So when Harry said he
wanted to help people

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and I'm thinking about
those beautiful houses,

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it didn't seem to me, as
naive as I was, that maybe

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helping people was not such
a money-making proposition.

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That maybe those houses would be out

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of range with Harry
working on helping people.

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But I thought it was such an unusual thing

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for him to say and when I
dated him more and more,

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I realized that I would
probably never meet

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anybody as unique as
this man and so that's

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when I decided that maybe
this was the guy for me.

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(up tempo Jewish style wedding music)

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Harry took any case that
came through the door

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and I mean any case, he
did wills for maybe $10.

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Never thought about billable hours,

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just whatever they could pay.

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I remember Harry coming
home with a package

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of chicken legs or we got a free tire.

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It never occurred to him to limit himself

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to people of position, people of influence

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and that's when he first
embarked on the idea of

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trying to find a way for the
little guy to be represented.

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- In the late 50s, I got to hanging around

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with what was then the neighborhood gang.

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My mother's optometrist
was Dr. Edward Lamar

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and every afternoon
from about 2:00 to 4:00,

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he'd put an out to lunch sign

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and him and his receptionist would

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basically have a lovemaking
session in the afternoons

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with their lunch and
so we knew that the car

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wasn't going anywhere
for at least two hours.

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So we actually went joyriding twice

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before the third time, we got caught.

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Detectives came that evening to the house

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and told my dad that they
knew that I was in the car

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and after my dad got through straightening

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me out with his belt,
we had to go to court

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and that's when I met
Harry and he was hard.

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I never met somebody that
could scare me like he did.

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I still remember one thing he said

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that just kind of stuck with
me and that was that if that's

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the kind of life I wanted to
lead, then I wasn't a very

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good person and that they
should throw the book at me.

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But if I wanted to change,

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then the change had to be with me.

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It couldn't be anybody else

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and I couldn't blame anybody else

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and my father made the
comment that he was a Marine

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and he was a combat Marine
and a decorated Marine

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and that Marines didn't
put up with any nonsense.

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So that put the idea in my head that maybe

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these Marines were a pretty
tough outfit to belong to.

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I wanted to be a Marine if
they could make you that tough.

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- It was when Jim Corman, the Congressman

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who was very close to
Harry said to him one day,

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he said, "You know,
you'd make a fine judge."

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And he said "I'm going to try

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to see whether that's possible."

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Pat Brown, who was Governor Brown

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was impressed with my husband.

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He liked what Harry was doing

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and so it just happened
there was an opening.

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Harry first became a
Municipal Court Judge.

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One year later, he was appointed

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to be a Superior Court Judge.

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He was appointed to the District Court

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by President Lyndon Johnson.

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(gunfire clacking)

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(explosion booms)

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Harry was torn when it came to Vietnam.

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He felt that everybody should serve

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but he understood why
others didn't feel that way.

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- The War was just heating up
when I got out of high school

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and you could go into college,
you could get a deferment

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and avoid going in the service at all

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and so I took that deferment
and I went to college,

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not necessarily because
I wanted to go to college

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but because I could get a deferment.

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A couple of years down the
line when the War began getting

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worse, I decided I had to
take personal responsibility

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for my position on the War
and that I had sort of white

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privilege going to school
when other kids couldn't.

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So I sent in my 2-S
and they made me a 1-A.

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They called me for a physical

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and I refused to take the
physical and then I was indicted.

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When they said "The People
of the United States

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of America versus Robert Paul Zaugh,"

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I felt this huge wave of adrenal fear

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jolt me and pass through my body

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and once it did, I was not nervous.

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The Judge didn't have to
let you defend yourself.

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They could just keep it to

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"Did you refuse induction or did you not?"

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It's a yes or no answer

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and that could be the end of your case.

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Even though the prosecutor
objected to my presentation,

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Pregerson said, "I want to hear
what Mr. Zaugh has to say."

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So I spoke for, I don't know, 20 minutes.

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He acquitted me of refusing induction

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and he convicted me of
refusing to take a physical.

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He sentenced me to work
in the national interest.

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I told them that I was
working at Peace Press,

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that we printed for Angela
Davis, Daniel Ellsberg,

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the Communist Party, the
Black Panthers, et cetera

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and that that was the
national interest and that's

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what I was going to do and
they never challenged that.

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I thought perhaps it was my so-called

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brilliant defense that
had kept me out of prison.

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But what Pregerson said was
that he visits everybody

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he sends to prison and
that he went up to Lompoc

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to visit a bank robber and he looked on

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the prison manifest and he
saw the name of Mike Swartz.

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He thought Schwartz was picking
corn in Safford, Arizona,

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the minimum security prison

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that most resisters were sent to.

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It wasn't my argument that got me off.

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It was one, he didn't like the conditions

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in that prison and two,
he realized how serious

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the draft resisters were
about what they were doing

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and he decided personally he was not gonna

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send any more draft resisters to prison

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and lo and behold, I was the next case.

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(relaxed guitar music)

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- They came home, they had to find a job.

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Many of them had been gone
for a number of years.

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They hadn't had training
to move into the mainstream

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and so many of them
wound up on the streets.

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They were homeless and they were needing

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help and nobody was giving them help.

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So Harry just went crazy over that idea

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that you have people
serving, putting their life

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on the line, as he saw all these men do,

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Marines

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and Navy and Army guys

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and gals and he said, "How
can you treat them so poorly?"

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- In Los Angeles alone, there
were about 24,000 homeless

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veterans and he really took
it to heart that these guys

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were out on the street and
they and they couldn't get help

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and tears came to his eyes,

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just showing that he cared
deeply about everyone,

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about every veteran who wasn't
being helped in the world.

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Harry and I really
connected early on in that.

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He found out that I was a Marine.

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We are taught to protect those around us.

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We become a unit and we
watch each other's back,

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which in combat is absolutely essential.

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So he identified a building, he found

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the people who would give the
down payment on the building.

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He really put together

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the building blocks of
what became US Vets.

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Our workers go out into the streets,

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go under the bridges, by the freeways

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and when they see an
encampment of homeless people,

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they'll say, "Are any of you veterans?"

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- Are you a veteran?

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You got any vets out here?

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And Army, Navy, Marines?
- Army.

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- Are you a veteran by any chance?

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Are you a United States veteran?

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- Once be bring them in, we
assess them, try to determine

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what are those things that
led them to homelessness?

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- We got guys that just got out

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of the military last year, you know?

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We have from World War II all the way up.

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(plane humming)

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The only family they have is
right here, this community.

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- You see, it started 35 years ago.

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Harry was watching
television and on the news,

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the Salvation Army was managing

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a homeless shelter, a cold winter shelter.

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It was a very bleak and cold winter

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and many of the homeless
were dying on the streets.

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The city announced that the shelter would

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be closed and that the
Salvation Army would cease

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to manage it because there
were no more funds left.

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They asked my father, "What are
these homeless going to do?"

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And he says, "They're gonna probably

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have to go back to
sleeping on the streets."

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Well, Harry saw that
interview on television

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and just within about
an hour after my father

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got back to his office, he
got a phone call from Harry

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and you know that when you
get a phone call from Harry,

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something's about to happen,
something's going to be done

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and it's probably gonna
challenge you to do

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a lot more than you ever
thought you were gonna do.

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The Judge drove him down to Bell,

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government land that wasn't being used.

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He said, "What could you do with this?"

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500 men and women from
that day forward were

499
00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:29,265
housed at this complex
because Harry made it happen.

500
00:26:29,265 --> 00:26:31,830
(relaxed guitar music)

501
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:34,250
- [Harry] If you want to
meet wonderful people,

502
00:26:34,250 --> 00:26:37,990
kind people, sharing
people, decent people,

503
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:41,200
you go to a homeless shelter
and you sit down with them.

504
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,670
They'll share whatever they
have with the next person.

505
00:26:44,670 --> 00:26:47,450
They're concerned about others' problems.

506
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:49,320
There's so much talent there.

507
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,470
We've had lawyers who were homeless.

508
00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:53,810
We've had bankers who were homeless.

509
00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:56,720
We've had NBA basketball players.

510
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,810
We've had a lot of folks that

511
00:26:58,810 --> 00:27:02,170
are just struggling to survive every day.

512
00:27:02,170 --> 00:27:05,550
They come to our place
and we have a total array

513
00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:08,633
of programs to help 'em
get back on their feet.

514
00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:12,990
- When the Pregerson family

515
00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:16,023
asked me to share a few reflections,

516
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,850
I wanted to speak from my
heart and think of what's

517
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:23,340
the truest thing I can say
to honor this magnificent man

518
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:25,330
and it occurred to me
it is somewhat ironic

519
00:27:25,330 --> 00:27:28,910
that as a Catholic and
Christian, the person

520
00:27:28,910 --> 00:27:32,350
who most has reminded me
of Jesus on my journey

521
00:27:32,350 --> 00:27:34,950
was a man of Jewish persuasion named Harry

522
00:27:35,890 --> 00:27:38,180
and I had mentioned this to my wife,

523
00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:40,470
my most honest critic, Denise.

524
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:42,130
She said "No, you're not gonna say that.

525
00:27:42,130 --> 00:27:44,430
First of all, Jesus was a Jew.

526
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:45,680
You're gonna sound like an ignorant

527
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,900
Catholic boy who doesn't know his history.

528
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:48,250
You're not gonna say that."

529
00:27:49,151 --> 00:27:51,560
It kinda reminded me of those
moments when you've been

530
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,280
at those events that honor
Harry and as was mentioned,

531
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,960
he has a tendency to kinda go on and on

532
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,120
with his enthusiasm and so finally Bern

533
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,080
pops up and says "Harry, get down,

534
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,120
you're done, get off the stage."

535
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,400
God bless our wives.

536
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,210
Harry recognized that as devastating

537
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:10,513
as material poverty can be,

538
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:16,430
it is the disconnection
from a community of care

539
00:28:16,790 --> 00:28:20,483
that most depresses the plights
of our homeless neighbors.

540
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,590
I am convinced that this is
why the individual attention

541
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:29,490
he devoted to the poor and
powerless surpassed that

542
00:28:29,490 --> 00:28:31,913
which he directed to the
powerful and the elite.

543
00:28:33,250 --> 00:28:37,040
His message to the homeless
was you deserve more

544
00:28:37,910 --> 00:28:42,910
and I believe in you, don't
give up on your dreams.

545
00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:45,517
The message he conveyed
to the powerful was

546
00:28:45,517 --> 00:28:49,658
you need to do more or I won't
believe in you because you'll

547
00:28:49,658 --> 00:28:54,097
be giving up on the dream of
what we must be as a community.

548
00:28:55,170 --> 00:28:59,100
- In 1979, Harry was
nominated to the Ninth Circuit

549
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:03,200
Court of Appeals by
President Jimmy Carter.

550
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,610
He went before the Senate

551
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:07,193
Judiciary Committee for confirmation.

552
00:29:08,650 --> 00:29:12,970
Harry was asked by one of the Senators

553
00:29:12,970 --> 00:29:16,287
and pushed by one of the Senators,

554
00:29:16,287 --> 00:29:18,180
"What would you do, Judge,

555
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:22,950
if you had a case in
which you had to decide

556
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:26,230
according to the law or your conscience?"

557
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:29,510
And Harry really said afterwards to me

558
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:32,060
and others that that made
him very uncomfortable

559
00:29:32,060 --> 00:29:34,110
to try to answer a question like that

560
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:39,410
and he finally, because
they pressed him, he finally

561
00:29:39,410 --> 00:29:43,700
said "My conscience is the
product of the 10 Commandments,

562
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:46,800
the Bill of Rights, the Boy Scout Oath

563
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,343
and the Marine Corps Hymn.

564
00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:53,290
If I had to follow my
conscience or the law,

565
00:29:53,290 --> 00:29:55,277
I would follow my conscience."

566
00:29:58,950 --> 00:30:00,680
Harry could not lie.

567
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,620
Harry had no guile.

568
00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:05,710
He just was what he was.

569
00:30:05,710 --> 00:30:08,350
People would take him for what he was

570
00:30:08,350 --> 00:30:12,900
and I think everybody recognized
that this was a man of

571
00:30:15,170 --> 00:30:16,690
great

572
00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:17,523
honor,

573
00:30:18,410 --> 00:30:21,962
of great morality, of integrity.

574
00:30:21,962 --> 00:30:25,545
(soft piano, violin music)

575
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,060
- I was asked to speak on behalf

576
00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:59,890
of HP's law clerks past and present.

577
00:30:59,890 --> 00:31:02,670
There are over 150 of us

578
00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:06,050
over his 45 years on the Federal bench.

579
00:31:06,050 --> 00:31:07,580
He has sworn most of us

580
00:31:07,580 --> 00:31:10,230
into the Bar and into other positions.

581
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:13,150
Since he's been a Circuit
Judge, he has taken

582
00:31:13,150 --> 00:31:16,413
the liberty of embellishing
the State Bar Oath.

583
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:21,387
He adds the promise, which
he makes us all repeat,

584
00:31:21,387 --> 00:31:24,761
"I will never file an oversized brief."

585
00:31:24,761 --> 00:31:27,250
(audience laughs)

586
00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:29,490
He bragged about other people's kids

587
00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:32,463
and shared pictures as
if they were his own.

588
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:36,760
He took the cane, an
item that some might view

589
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,510
as a symbol of weakness and
made it powerful and fun.

590
00:31:40,510 --> 00:31:42,690
He used to do tricks with his cane.

591
00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:46,970
HP regularly hired female
law clerks from the get-go,

592
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:49,160
long before many of his colleagues

593
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,970
would even consider such
a hire and if you got

594
00:31:51,970 --> 00:31:55,100
pregnant while you were
working for him, no problem.

595
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,300
Just bring the crib in.

596
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:59,413
He had it all set up as a nursery.

597
00:32:00,350 --> 00:32:02,030
He was always on the phone,

598
00:32:02,030 --> 00:32:04,900
moving and shaking, wheeling and dealing.

599
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,740
It was so frustrating if
you were trying to keep him

600
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:12,070
on a deadline or help him get
an opinion out but he taught

601
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:16,710
us how to get amazing things
done by personal contact.

602
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:19,040
When he saw a wrong that
needed to be righted,

603
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,520
he gathered the law clerks

604
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480
and he gave us our marching orders.

605
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,200
Find the law and build
to the right decision.

606
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,400
He said the law is like
going to Builder's Emporium,

607
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,690
figure out what you want to build

608
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:35,950
and then use the law
as a tool to build it.

609
00:32:35,950 --> 00:32:38,763
And he had amazing legal vision.

610
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,777
His dissent in Sullivan
versus United States in 1985

611
00:32:45,890 --> 00:32:49,770
lamented the failure of the
Court and our government

612
00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:54,713
to recognize the importance of
a party's same-sex marriage.

613
00:32:56,310 --> 00:33:00,270
In 1998 in US versus Lipman,

614
00:33:00,270 --> 00:33:03,680
long before the DACA controversy,

615
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,860
he authored a little-known opinion that

616
00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:11,203
gave legal recognition to
real life on the street.

617
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:15,320
That it is no surprise that children

618
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,040
brought to this country
illegally by their parents

619
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,223
become as American as the rest of us.

620
00:33:23,370 --> 00:33:25,760
- He was obviously incredibly impactful

621
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,120
as a jurist and I think
for two different reasons.

622
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,673
One, he personified idealism.

623
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,863
The law was there to protect people.

624
00:33:36,970 --> 00:33:41,420
It was infused with values,
equality and fairness

625
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,280
but he also was the consummate pragmatist.

626
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,150
He measured whether something was just

627
00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:56,150
based on its actual effect
on real people's lives.

628
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,467
(relaxed piano music)

629
00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:05,130
- In the mid-80s, it came
to light that the city

630
00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:08,460
of Los Angeles had been
inadequately treating its sewage

631
00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:10,190
and was essentially
dumping everything that

632
00:34:10,190 --> 00:34:13,293
was flushed down a toilet
into Santa Monica Bay.

633
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,130
- The Hyperion Treatment
Plant was not coming close

634
00:34:18,130 --> 00:34:20,720
to meeting the requirements
under the Clean Water Act.

635
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,640
We had a dead zone in the
middle of Santa Monica Bay.

636
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,790
We had sewage spills closing the beaches

637
00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:28,380
even in the height of
summer and people were

638
00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:30,780
just sick and tired of
the poor water quality.

639
00:34:32,620 --> 00:34:34,530
It was very much under the radar.

640
00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:37,180
Then Assemblyman Tom Hayden held hearings.

641
00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:38,790
Then all of a sudden, the sorry state

642
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:41,103
of sewage became front page news.

643
00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:45,360
Judge Pregerson had
been the District Judge

644
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,500
who had been presiding
over the enforcement case.

645
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,990
It then got put on hold for
many, many years and by the time

646
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:54,880
it reopened, he was an Appellate
Court Judge but he kept

647
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,090
on the case because he
already had the experience.

648
00:34:58,090 --> 00:35:00,250
He required all of us to go on a tour

649
00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:02,860
of the Hyperion Treatment
Plant and he made sure

650
00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:04,900
that everybody got up close and personal

651
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:06,750
to what's known as the headworks,

652
00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:08,550
where there are bar screens that screen

653
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:11,930
out the crazy large items
and things that people dump

654
00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:14,880
into sewers down manholes
and flush down the toilets.

655
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,750
It's the most odorful area.

656
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:20,160
- [Mark] We ended up
meeting once a quarter.

657
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,530
Judge Harry Pregerson presided
to run those meetings.

658
00:35:23,530 --> 00:35:26,560
- Stuck in a room having
to go through everything,

659
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,230
we started to develop
some honest relationships.

660
00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:30,547
Being able to ask questions, you know,

661
00:35:30,547 --> 00:35:33,130
"Would you let your daughter go swim

662
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:34,720
in the beach out near the plant?"

663
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:35,990
And the answer was no.

664
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:38,730
- He was so down earth and so folksy

665
00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:41,780
and he just had this incredible way

666
00:35:41,780 --> 00:35:44,830
of making everybody in
that room feel at ease

667
00:35:44,830 --> 00:35:47,720
and also feel that their
voice was important.

668
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,830
We I think realized,
somewhat to our horror,

669
00:35:50,830 --> 00:35:52,740
that we had approached talking about

670
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:57,850
the men and women of the
Public Works Department

671
00:35:57,850 --> 00:35:59,700
as if the folks who went
to work at the sewage

672
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:02,260
treatment plant went there
every morning to manufacturer

673
00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:05,210
sewage for the joy of
dumping it in the ocean

674
00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:08,530
as opposed to it being
hardworking men and women

675
00:36:08,530 --> 00:36:10,650
who were dealing with
a river of human waste

676
00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:13,210
coming at them 24 hours a
day that they hadn't been

677
00:36:13,210 --> 00:36:16,822
given the resources they
needed to deal with adequately.

678
00:36:16,822 --> 00:36:20,489
(soft piano, trumpet music)

679
00:36:22,493 --> 00:36:25,350
I think Judge Pregerson
and his very humanity

680
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,510
in forcing us to come together
as people to figure out

681
00:36:28,510 --> 00:36:31,410
what could be done as
opposed to fighting in the

682
00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:35,283
traditional sense really brought
the best out of all of us.

683
00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:00,133
- We hear the term activist judge.

684
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,290
That doesn't really encompass

685
00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:08,680
the activist judge that
Harry Pregerson was.

686
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,930
He taught us it's not
just what you do in law

687
00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:13,970
with your hands in the
opinions that you write

688
00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:17,470
but it's what you do with your
feet outside the courtroom.

689
00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:20,130
When a freeway going through
South Los Angeles was going

690
00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:24,810
to uproot low income families,
he stopped it in its tracks.

691
00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:27,980
The first time in the history
perhaps of this nation

692
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:30,840
that a judge stopped an
infrastructure project

693
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,130
like that out of justice, to
make sure that something that

694
00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:38,653
was supposed to serve all of
us did not leave anyone behind.

695
00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:42,490
- The Century Freeway was planned

696
00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:47,490
deliberately to go right
through the urban area

697
00:37:47,530 --> 00:37:51,370
and in doing so, it would destroy

698
00:37:51,370 --> 00:37:54,803
approximately 8,000 housing units.

699
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,410
We were very young, still very green

700
00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:00,450
and trying to figure out what

701
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,920
public interest law could be about.

702
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,110
Judge Pregerson understood
the need to act quickly

703
00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:10,440
and Judge Pregerson kept
going back to Caltrans

704
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,320
and saying "You need to do a better job

705
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,250
of addressing the problems of blight."

706
00:38:15,250 --> 00:38:19,923
He continued the injunction
in effect for seven years.

707
00:38:21,330 --> 00:38:26,330
Judge Pregerson clearly
understood that a very robust

708
00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:31,510
mitigation plan was going
to be the optimum solution.

709
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:35,210
He delivered that message
and that was critical

710
00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:37,570
to getting both the Federal and the State

711
00:38:37,570 --> 00:38:40,910
government to agree to a plan that was

712
00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:44,680
going to cost hundreds
of millions of dollars.

713
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,480
The settlement provided that
roughly half the cost of the

714
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,250
freeway was going to be put
into the mitigation measures.

715
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:56,920
Pregerson was more
responsible than anybody

716
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,860
for establishing the
Apprenticeship Program.

717
00:38:59,860 --> 00:39:02,660
You should have certain numbers of women,

718
00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:05,450
you should have certain
numbers of the minority.

719
00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:07,030
You should try to have as many people

720
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:09,329
from the impacted area as possible.

721
00:39:09,329 --> 00:39:12,800
That proved to be extremely difficult

722
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,320
because a lot of people
that you would want

723
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,600
to get those jobs didn't have the skills.

724
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,130
Pregerson said "Well, let's
have an Apprenticeship Program

725
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:25,070
where we teach these people
the skills from the beginning,

726
00:39:25,070 --> 00:39:27,210
how to hit a hammer into a nail,

727
00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:30,728
then go up from there
and drive the bulldozer."

728
00:39:30,728 --> 00:39:32,400
(bulldozer rumbles)

729
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,430
He had a great concern for minorities.

730
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:37,290
Maybe it was his Jewish background,

731
00:39:37,290 --> 00:39:41,150
that he felt he was a minority religiously

732
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:44,840
and that the Jewish community was one

733
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,550
of many minority groups as he grew up

734
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:50,310
and so he felt concerned
for other minority groups.

735
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:52,073
I'm not sure where he got that.

736
00:39:53,482 --> 00:39:56,815
(relaxed trumpet music)

737
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:05,030
- This is a letter from a Congressman,

738
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:09,000
Chuck Holifield of the
19th District in California

739
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,000
and he writes to my husband
on September 11th, 1945,

740
00:40:14,217 --> 00:40:17,420
"Dear Harry, I rejoice with you

741
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:20,600
in the restoration of your Commission.

742
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,960
The most important thing
in this whole affair

743
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,130
is that you've proven your ability

744
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:28,727
to overcome what seemed to
be a very great tragedy."

745
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:32,783
Oh, where to begin?

746
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,760
There's no question that my
husband suffered from PTSD.

747
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,080
I've known it, Harry has known
it and you could say well,

748
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,180
he certainly suffered in the battlefield.

749
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:51,920
He had these severe wounds in Okinawa

750
00:40:52,820 --> 00:40:57,470
but by far the greatest
suffering that my husband had

751
00:40:57,470 --> 00:41:00,110
was when he was in Quantico, Virginia

752
00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:03,330
in the Officer's Training Facility

753
00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:06,403
to become a Second Lieutenant
in the Marine Corps.

754
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:11,300
When Harry and his friend
Mike graduated from the ROTC

755
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:14,993
program at UCLA, they were
then sent to Quantico.

756
00:41:16,697 --> 00:41:19,100
They were absolutely shocked

757
00:41:20,733 --> 00:41:23,530
by the outrageous racism,

758
00:41:23,530 --> 00:41:24,673
bigotry,

759
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,290
anti-Semitism that would permeate

760
00:41:29,290 --> 00:41:33,013
every aspect of their military life there.

761
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,850
Right after they had taken an exam,

762
00:41:36,850 --> 00:41:40,590
they were called into
the office of an officer

763
00:41:40,590 --> 00:41:45,590
who they considered not very
friendly towards Jews and told

764
00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:49,840
that they had been found
to have cheated on the exam

765
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,707
and of course they denied it
and then the officer said,

766
00:41:52,707 --> 00:41:54,720
"Well then now that you've denied it,

767
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,007
you're not only a cheat but you're liars."

768
00:41:58,010 --> 00:42:01,500
Just before graduation,
they were called in

769
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,463
and told they were going to
be dishonorably discharged.

770
00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:11,953
That was probably the greatest
pain that Harry's ever known.

771
00:42:13,970 --> 00:42:17,480
The day that they received
their dishonorable discharges,

772
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,330
Harry decided that he would enlist

773
00:42:20,330 --> 00:42:24,373
the very next day in the
Marine Corps as a Private.

774
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,373
He was going into that War.

775
00:42:30,830 --> 00:42:33,380
And then a strange thing happened.

776
00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:35,700
Evidently there were enough people

777
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:39,790
in high places who said
this is terrible travesty,

778
00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:42,350
what was done to these two boys.

779
00:42:42,350 --> 00:42:43,640
Harry was told

780
00:42:45,290 --> 00:42:48,050
that he would get back his commission

781
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:50,320
and it would be a field commission.

782
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,330
But what happened was he was severely

783
00:42:52,330 --> 00:42:55,653
wounded with these badly mangled legs.

784
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,603
The doctor came to see
him and he said, "Son,

785
00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:03,920
one of the requirements is
you're going to have to walk.

786
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,357
You're gonna have to walk."

787
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:08,690
And so

788
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:12,180
Harry got up

789
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,433
and he walked.

790
00:43:18,490 --> 00:43:21,750
He walked about 10 steps

791
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:25,910
and the doctor had a
wheelchair waiting for him and

792
00:43:28,450 --> 00:43:30,200
he got his commission back

793
00:43:31,330 --> 00:43:36,330
and so, this wound that Harry suffered

794
00:43:36,670 --> 00:43:39,440
was rectified and yet it wasn't.

795
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,610
He never wanted to talk about this.

796
00:43:41,610 --> 00:43:44,860
He didn't tell our children
for years and years

797
00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:48,563
because he felt it was a
stain on his character.

798
00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:53,330
One of the things that Harry learned

799
00:43:53,330 --> 00:43:58,330
from this experience was that
a little person like Harry

800
00:43:58,540 --> 00:44:02,680
who was barely out of his
teens when this event happened,

801
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,530
a little person who had no
power and had no network,

802
00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:11,170
no resource, no person who could help him

803
00:44:11,170 --> 00:44:16,170
was totally at the mercy
of whatever powers might be

804
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:20,440
and so I think Harry learned

805
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,030
that one of the things he
needed to do was to get power,

806
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:29,083
to have some voice and
then to start networking.

807
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,673
I'll never forget his last words.

808
00:44:35,467 --> 00:44:38,370
"I'm so sorry.

809
00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:43,370
I regret so much that I can
no longer help anybody."

810
00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:53,920
- I'm gonna bring it home.

811
00:44:57,330 --> 00:45:00,410
When I was eight years
old, my grandfather gave me

812
00:45:00,410 --> 00:45:05,410
a stone with the inscription
"Never, never, ever quit."

813
00:45:06,850 --> 00:45:11,499
Being eight, I didn't have
anything yet to quit from.

814
00:45:11,499 --> 00:45:14,110
(audience laughs)

815
00:45:14,110 --> 00:45:17,457
When I was 10 years old,
he bought me the book

816
00:45:17,457 --> 00:45:20,507
"How to Win Friends and Influence People."

817
00:45:22,070 --> 00:45:24,120
Win friends?

818
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,150
Influence people?

819
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:29,593
I was just focused on trying
to be like Michael Jordan.

820
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:36,770
As I got older, my grandpa
continued to buy me books.

821
00:45:37,090 --> 00:45:39,340
Autobiographies of Abraham Lincoln,

822
00:45:39,340 --> 00:45:41,890
speeches of Winston Churchill

823
00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:45,580
and of course, Strunk's
"Elements of Style."

824
00:45:45,580 --> 00:45:48,840
One summer, we went through
this book cover to cover.

825
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,170
He would call me each Sunday

826
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:54,617
and say without any introduction,

827
00:45:54,617 --> 00:45:56,990
"Turn to page 57."

828
00:45:56,990 --> 00:46:00,310
(audience laughs)

829
00:46:00,310 --> 00:46:03,540
During one weekend session
that I will never forget

830
00:46:03,540 --> 00:46:07,170
because it was a particularly
beautiful summer day,

831
00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:09,903
I asked him if we could
skip that day's session.

832
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,290
Grandpa, I said, "It's a beautiful day.

833
00:46:14,290 --> 00:46:18,290
I want to go outside and have
fun with the other kids."

834
00:46:18,290 --> 00:46:20,963
He said "Brad, let me tell you something.

835
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:25,349
Fun is bullshit."

836
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:28,850
(audience laughs)

837
00:46:28,850 --> 00:46:32,370
And I'll never forget
that but it was ironic

838
00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:36,110
coming from someone who
loved to make people laugh

839
00:46:36,110 --> 00:46:39,243
and even at 12 years old, I
knew what he really meant.

840
00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:43,080
Don't waste time, work every day

841
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,560
towards bettering yourself
and strive to be better.

842
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,620
In his later years, I went with him

843
00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:53,160
to many dinners and charity
events and at those events,

844
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,240
he would be seated at a
table and a stranger would

845
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,550
inevitably approach him
and introduce themselves.

846
00:47:00,550 --> 00:47:02,633
He would slowly extend his hand.

847
00:47:03,570 --> 00:47:06,970
They would shake and suddenly the stranger

848
00:47:06,970 --> 00:47:10,843
was confronted with a Kung Fu
grip they could not escape.

849
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,620
The crippling grip continued
as pleasantries were exchanged

850
00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:20,813
while the stranger pretended
everything was normal.

851
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:26,040
The handshake would continue an unusually

852
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,880
long period of time where this stranger

853
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,070
would finally begin to smile or laugh,

854
00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:36,110
I'm sure thinking this crazy old judge

855
00:47:36,110 --> 00:47:39,863
is squeezing the crap out
of my hand and won't let go.

856
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,400
Eventually grandpa would release his grip

857
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,400
and a conversation or rather
a history lesson would ensue.

858
00:47:49,517 --> 00:47:54,040
"Where do you live? Near
downtown, near Pershing Square?

859
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,746
Do you know about General Pershing?"

860
00:47:56,746 --> 00:47:58,080
(audience laughs)

861
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,120
Soon contact information was requested

862
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,900
and then exchanged and then
the stranger unknowingly

863
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:09,870
had enlisted as a member
of grandpa's army.

864
00:48:09,870 --> 00:48:13,840
The truth is that all the
good deeds he was able

865
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,800
to accomplish were not the
result of his efforts alone.

866
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,320
No, there was an army of people who stood

867
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,380
and fought with him
who began as strangers,

868
00:48:26,380 --> 00:48:29,490
who were brought in with a Kung Fu grip

869
00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:31,983
and soon became lifelong friends.

870
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:37,210
But grandpa wasn't afraid
to take bold action,

871
00:48:37,210 --> 00:48:41,120
inspiring others to join him and they did

872
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,850
because they knew he was
fighting the good fight.

873
00:48:44,850 --> 00:48:49,850
He was a good man and he
would never, never, ever quit.

874
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:52,315
Thank you.

875
00:48:52,315 --> 00:48:55,315
(audience applauds)

876
00:48:57,376 --> 00:49:00,626
(somber trumpet music)

877
00:49:14,307 --> 00:49:18,690
- [Narrator] In his last days,
Harry knew his work was done.

878
00:49:18,690 --> 00:49:21,693
That it was time for others
to carry on his legacy.

879
00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:27,703
His message was we have to
make this world a better place.

880
00:49:28,610 --> 00:49:31,763
We have to leave it in better
shape than when we entered it.

881
00:49:33,277 --> 00:49:37,243
"God puts us here to take care
of each other," he once said.

882
00:49:38,367 --> 00:49:39,763
And I really believe that.

883
00:50:00,056 --> 00:50:03,292
(soft piano music)

884
00:50:03,292 --> 00:50:06,459
(audience applauding)

885
00:50:12,190 --> 00:50:14,193
- I grew up in East LA.

886
00:50:15,211 --> 00:50:16,633
It was a wonderful place.

887
00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:19,383
In my high school,

888
00:50:20,830 --> 00:50:24,140
the students' parents came from

889
00:50:25,070 --> 00:50:26,880
over 50 countries

890
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:29,403
around the world.

891
00:50:32,401 --> 00:50:34,700
You know, we all got along.

892
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:36,920
We were like brothers and sisters.

893
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,970
People worked together,
they respected each other.

894
00:50:40,970 --> 00:50:45,210
I've looked at people
that way, that they're all

895
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,713
important.

896
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,920
That they all have so
much goodness within them.

897
00:50:54,570 --> 00:50:58,033
It's been a great journey
for me, it's not finished.

898
00:51:01,044 --> 00:51:04,044
(audience applauds)

899
00:51:09,997 --> 00:51:12,387
I guess that means I should sit down.

900
00:51:12,387 --> 00:51:13,620
(audience laughs)

901
00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:16,370
But I just want to say this.

902
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:17,463
As a country,

903
00:51:19,690 --> 00:51:21,793
we have a great future.

904
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:27,063
We have great strength,
we have great resources.

905
00:51:29,146 --> 00:51:30,596
But we need to come together.

906
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:35,920
We need to embrace each
other as brothers and sisters

907
00:51:37,650 --> 00:51:38,590
and we need

908
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:44,690
to devote so much of our resources

909
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,560
to educating our children and
the parents of our children.

910
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:56,060
Every child that is here
today, every child born here

911
00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:59,200
and every child who is brought here

912
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,430
is a precious asset

913
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,440
and the wealth of our country
is in the minds of our people.

914
00:52:10,780 --> 00:52:13,573
The other thing I want to say, and I'll

915
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,520
probably get half the people
in this room mad at me but

916
00:52:22,340 --> 00:52:25,030
I feel very good about the future

917
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:27,983
of our country, and you know why?

918
00:52:29,260 --> 00:52:32,574
Because the women are
gonna take over and run it.

919
00:52:32,574 --> 00:52:35,128
(audience applauds)

920
00:52:35,128 --> 00:52:36,295
- Good ending.

921
00:52:41,855 --> 00:52:45,188
(relaxed trumpet music)



