WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:23.357 --> 00:00:25.151 PHARRELL WILLIAMS: Well, the Internet was just 4 00:00:25.234 --> 00:00:28.529 opening things up so widely that there were only 5 00:00:28.612 --> 00:00:31.949 maybe a handful of archetypes in the industry 6 00:00:32.032 --> 00:00:35.327 that were representing only a part of what it is 7 00:00:35.411 --> 00:00:37.079 that we were thinking and feeling, 8 00:00:37.163 --> 00:00:39.457 and so we just were like, let’s just go. 9 00:00:39.540 --> 00:00:42.460 Let’s just completely be ourselves, unabashedly, 10 00:00:42.543 --> 00:00:43.669 and be... 11 00:00:43.753 --> 00:00:47.798 very proud of what and who we are. 12 00:00:47.882 --> 00:00:51.051 And what and who we are is, like-- 13 00:00:51.135 --> 00:00:54.555 where we come from made huge impressions on us. 14 00:00:54.638 --> 00:00:56.932 Huge impressions on our spirits and on our bodies 15 00:00:57.016 --> 00:01:00.853 and what we wore and how we talked. 16 00:01:02.146 --> 00:01:04.273 So, when you mention Cudi 17 00:01:04.356 --> 00:01:08.944 and the, like, ever-growing, ever-expanding generation of folks 18 00:01:09.028 --> 00:01:12.156 who do not adhere to boundaries, 19 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:16.160 we’re doing it because we’re human and it’s our right. 20 00:01:16.243 --> 00:01:19.538 We can’t edit what we were exposed to 21 00:01:19.622 --> 00:01:23.083 and what helped to form the way we see the world, 22 00:01:23.167 --> 00:01:27.087 so we’re not gonna edit the result. 23 00:01:28.506 --> 00:01:30.466 We now have the opportunity. 24 00:01:30.549 --> 00:01:32.426 We are in front of cameras. 25 00:01:32.510 --> 00:01:35.012 We are behind microphones. We are behind keyboards. 26 00:01:35.095 --> 00:01:38.808 We are the pushers of pencils and pens. 27 00:01:38.891 --> 00:01:43.020 And no one can tell us how to express ourselves. 28 00:01:43.103 --> 00:01:45.439 In different modes of creativity, 29 00:01:45.523 --> 00:01:49.193 there are different formulas, and all of that is subject to change. 30 00:01:49.276 --> 00:01:51.487 In fact, that’s one thing I’ve learned about this life, 31 00:01:51.570 --> 00:01:54.156 is nothing is really fixed. 32 00:01:54.240 --> 00:01:57.284 All of it can be changed. 33 00:01:58.452 --> 00:01:59.870 CUDI: All right, run it. 34 00:01:59.954 --> 00:02:02.957 ("Speedin’ Bullet 2 Heaven" by Kid Cudi playing) 35 00:02:28.524 --> 00:02:31.193 ♪ Oh, when I crash ♪ 36 00:02:31.277 --> 00:02:33.737 ♪ When I crash ♪ 37 00:02:33.821 --> 00:02:36.323 ♪ Or if I land ♪ 38 00:02:36.407 --> 00:02:39.535 ♪ No matter the case ♪ 39 00:02:39.618 --> 00:02:44.248 ♪ When I crash, when I crash ♪ 40 00:02:44.331 --> 00:02:47.042 ♪ Or if I land ♪ 41 00:02:47.126 --> 00:02:49.920 ♪ No matter the case ♪ 42 00:02:50.004 --> 00:02:55.467 ♪ I’m all smiles, I’m all smiles ♪ 43 00:02:55.551 --> 00:02:57.553 ♪ I’m all smiles ♪ 44 00:02:57.636 --> 00:03:00.180 ♪ Give a fuck what they say ♪ 45 00:03:00.264 --> 00:03:03.017 ♪ And I’m all smiles ♪ 46 00:03:03.100 --> 00:03:05.477 ♪ I’m all smiles ♪ 47 00:03:05.561 --> 00:03:07.563 ♪ Mm. ♪ 48 00:03:07.646 --> 00:03:09.648 (song fades) 49 00:03:21.285 --> 00:03:23.078 CUDI: My mom always used to say, like, 50 00:03:23.162 --> 00:03:25.831 "You were born to be on someone’s television." 51 00:03:25.915 --> 00:03:27.458 And I’d be like, "Ah, yeah, right. 52 00:03:27.541 --> 00:03:29.668 That’s not for me." 53 00:03:29.752 --> 00:03:32.796 But, like, hanging out, I was always on. 54 00:03:34.298 --> 00:03:37.593 I’m Kid Cudi, an artist out of, uh, Cleveland, Ohio. 55 00:03:37.676 --> 00:03:41.305 I started pursuing music when I was 15. 56 00:03:41.388 --> 00:03:45.017 I started writing, like, poems, 57 00:03:45.100 --> 00:03:48.646 like, after my father passed away when I was 11. 58 00:03:48.729 --> 00:03:52.358 I-I started trying to get in the game, doing talent shows, 59 00:03:52.441 --> 00:03:55.194 um, all types of shit, like open mics, 60 00:03:55.277 --> 00:03:58.364 like, anything I could get my name out there. 61 00:03:58.447 --> 00:04:01.075 Freestyle battles, all that shit. 62 00:04:02.534 --> 00:04:05.329 With my music, I’m definitely trying to inspire. 63 00:04:05.412 --> 00:04:10.084 And my movement is a inspirational one. 64 00:04:10.167 --> 00:04:15.339 I’m trying to lead the new movement to open kids’ minds about that. 65 00:04:15.422 --> 00:04:17.633 And in Cleveland, it’s like there’s no room for that. 66 00:04:17.716 --> 00:04:20.386 And if, you know, you try to do something different, 67 00:04:20.469 --> 00:04:24.014 it’s like... motherfuckers is like, "Who this nigga?" 68 00:04:24.098 --> 00:04:26.976 You know what I’m saying? Like, "Stick to the script." 69 00:04:27.059 --> 00:04:29.853 -I felt like... -(crowd cheering) 70 00:04:29.937 --> 00:04:31.271 fuck that. 71 00:04:31.355 --> 00:04:33.148 Now is when we fucking turn up. 72 00:04:33.232 --> 00:04:37.695 ♪ I’m on the pursuit of happiness... ♪ 73 00:04:39.989 --> 00:04:41.907 That’s why I felt like I need to be in New York. 74 00:04:41.991 --> 00:04:44.410 Yeah! 75 00:04:44.493 --> 00:04:46.161 CUDI: Oh, is the camcorder actually recording? 76 00:04:46.245 --> 00:04:47.997 -DOT DA GENIUS: Yeah. -CUDI: You recording all this? 77 00:04:48.080 --> 00:04:51.166 I call myself Old Dot da Evil Genius, baby, you know, 78 00:04:51.250 --> 00:04:53.085 ’cause I got that crack for the street, man. 79 00:04:53.168 --> 00:04:55.212 You know, I’m the George Jefferson of the ghetto, man. 80 00:04:55.295 --> 00:04:56.797 -(laughter) -DOT: As far as rap, 81 00:04:56.880 --> 00:04:58.549 at that moment, I had only worked 82 00:04:58.632 --> 00:05:00.551 with all the drug dealers in my neighborhood. 83 00:05:01.802 --> 00:05:04.304 We become closest friends, and he would come over, 84 00:05:04.388 --> 00:05:09.893 and we’d be working on music from like 7:00 p.m. to like 7:00 a.m. 85 00:05:09.977 --> 00:05:11.437 We got Kid Cudi. You know what I’m saying? 86 00:05:11.520 --> 00:05:13.564 That nigga’s about to drop, so look out for the Kid, man. 87 00:05:13.647 --> 00:05:14.815 -Kid Cudi. -From the Midwest side. 88 00:05:14.898 --> 00:05:15.899 -Ah, man. -(laughing) 89 00:05:15.983 --> 00:05:17.609 DOT: It was obsessive. 90 00:05:17.693 --> 00:05:19.862 Like, we didn’t do anything. 91 00:05:19.945 --> 00:05:21.947 -Just make music. -DOT: Cowboy Cudi. 92 00:05:22.031 --> 00:05:23.866 -Let’s go hit up Carl’s Jr. -(Dot laughing) 93 00:05:23.949 --> 00:05:25.325 Let’s go see what they got. 94 00:05:25.409 --> 00:05:27.453 DOT: Cudi was one of the first few people I met 95 00:05:27.536 --> 00:05:30.998 that it seemed like he didn’t care about what anyone thought. 96 00:05:31.081 --> 00:05:33.459 Where the fuck did you get that shirt from? 97 00:05:33.542 --> 00:05:34.918 Uh-oh. 98 00:05:35.002 --> 00:05:36.879 Where’s he going? Come back! 99 00:05:37.921 --> 00:05:39.339 (laughing) 100 00:05:39.423 --> 00:05:40.674 It was different for me. 101 00:05:40.758 --> 00:05:42.134 I’m from Brooklyn, man. 102 00:05:42.217 --> 00:05:43.552 We... It’s about rap 103 00:05:43.635 --> 00:05:45.179 at the end of the day, 104 00:05:45.262 --> 00:05:47.014 but he was just bringing musical references 105 00:05:47.097 --> 00:05:49.433 that I was not paying any attention to. 106 00:05:49.516 --> 00:05:51.268 Pretty much, like, all I’ve been listening to is, 107 00:05:51.351 --> 00:05:53.520 like, shit other than hip-hop. 108 00:05:53.604 --> 00:05:55.189 Like, I’ve been zoning out, listening to 109 00:05:55.272 --> 00:05:57.024 some Coldplay, you know, John Mayer. 110 00:05:57.107 --> 00:05:58.150 You know what I’m saying? 111 00:05:58.233 --> 00:06:00.027 Like, a lot of other shit like, you know, 112 00:06:00.110 --> 00:06:03.238 alternative music, rock, old-school rock, 113 00:06:03.322 --> 00:06:05.783 Electric Light Orchestra, Queen. 114 00:06:05.866 --> 00:06:07.951 Whole bunch of shit like that, man, Crash Test Dummies. 115 00:06:08.035 --> 00:06:10.454 I just been zoning out, listening to a lot of different music 116 00:06:10.537 --> 00:06:12.164 so I could incorporate it in mine-- 117 00:06:12.247 --> 00:06:13.999 you know what I’m saying?-- as far as, like, 118 00:06:14.083 --> 00:06:16.043 you know, good substance. 119 00:06:20.589 --> 00:06:23.175 SCHOOLBOY Q: Most of my homeys never left California 120 00:06:23.258 --> 00:06:25.886 until I, like, put ’em on a plane. 121 00:06:28.263 --> 00:06:32.684 When you really get to travel the world and you get so far away from it, 122 00:06:32.768 --> 00:06:36.605 you look at it like, "Whoa." 123 00:06:36.688 --> 00:06:39.566 The ghetto’s so small. That’s all you see. 124 00:06:39.650 --> 00:06:41.318 That’s all you know. What else you gonna do? 125 00:06:41.401 --> 00:06:43.487 Like, what else you gonna rap about? 126 00:06:43.570 --> 00:06:44.863 What else you gonna... 127 00:06:44.947 --> 00:06:46.824 want to listen to? 128 00:06:46.907 --> 00:06:50.369 That’s why I try to get my homeys out and expand they mind a little bit. 129 00:06:53.539 --> 00:06:55.499 You can get distracted because most of 130 00:06:55.582 --> 00:06:57.584 y-your main homeys, they ain’t into this shit. 131 00:06:57.668 --> 00:06:59.336 So, even when you get in the car, 132 00:06:59.419 --> 00:07:00.838 they’re only playing a certain type of shit. 133 00:07:00.921 --> 00:07:03.715 You go to their house, they’re only doing a certain type of shit. 134 00:07:03.799 --> 00:07:05.467 They dress only a certain type of way. 135 00:07:05.551 --> 00:07:08.095 But there’s just so much space out there, like... 136 00:07:08.178 --> 00:07:11.098 Like, niggas is walking on the moon and shit. 137 00:07:11.181 --> 00:07:14.560 You know, when you get bored of one thing, do the next. 138 00:07:14.643 --> 00:07:16.937 We’re just creators, man. We just want to create. 139 00:07:19.314 --> 00:07:23.569 And it kind of makes you a weirdo, you know, but it’s a dope thing. 140 00:07:23.652 --> 00:07:28.448 Like, we come up with a whole fucking thing from just the sound of air. 141 00:07:28.532 --> 00:07:30.868 Our imagination is crazy. 142 00:07:32.619 --> 00:07:35.455 So, it’s just being open to new things. 143 00:07:35.539 --> 00:07:37.791 You never know. It might change your life. 144 00:07:40.002 --> 00:07:41.962 He held down some jobs. 145 00:07:42.045 --> 00:07:43.630 You know, kept getting fired. 146 00:07:43.714 --> 00:07:45.799 This was actually a talk that he had with my parents, 147 00:07:45.883 --> 00:07:48.135 ’cause he got evicted, and they was letting him live, 148 00:07:48.218 --> 00:07:51.388 but then after a while, it was like, "Yo, you got to do something. 149 00:07:51.471 --> 00:07:53.140 Like, you can’t just stay at home all day." 150 00:07:53.223 --> 00:07:56.560 And he was like, "I don’t want to work no more." 151 00:07:56.643 --> 00:07:58.645 He was like, "I want to just do music." 152 00:07:58.729 --> 00:08:00.063 We was all in the room, 153 00:08:00.147 --> 00:08:02.107 like... 154 00:08:02.191 --> 00:08:04.818 Man, shit, ’cause we, you know, living in the hood, 155 00:08:04.902 --> 00:08:08.488 no glimmer of anything happening at all. 156 00:08:08.572 --> 00:08:10.365 And he’s just like, "It’s gonna work. Trust me. 157 00:08:10.449 --> 00:08:11.909 I don’t need a plan B." 158 00:08:13.493 --> 00:08:17.915 Cudi would just have ideas in his head, and he’ll just shoot ’em to me, like, 159 00:08:17.998 --> 00:08:19.583 "Yo, I think we should sample this. 160 00:08:19.666 --> 00:08:20.751 "Listen to this rap. 161 00:08:20.834 --> 00:08:22.169 What you think about this?" And... 162 00:08:22.252 --> 00:08:24.129 He had an idea 163 00:08:24.213 --> 00:08:27.216 for-for this song. 164 00:08:27.299 --> 00:08:29.051 (melody from Kid Cudi’s "Day N Nite" plays) 165 00:08:29.134 --> 00:08:31.803 He had the song pretty much written in his head. 166 00:08:33.347 --> 00:08:36.016 I remember it being a two-day process. 167 00:08:37.851 --> 00:08:39.186 We... 168 00:08:39.269 --> 00:08:42.314 -pretty much made the beat. -(beat plays) 169 00:08:42.397 --> 00:08:43.815 Recorded it the next day. 170 00:08:43.899 --> 00:08:45.400 ♪ Day and night ♪ 171 00:08:45.484 --> 00:08:48.820 ♪ The lonely stoner seems to free his mind at night... ♪ 172 00:08:48.904 --> 00:08:51.114 Uploaded it to Myspace. 173 00:08:53.867 --> 00:08:55.202 (beat stops) 174 00:08:55.285 --> 00:08:56.620 And that was it. 175 00:08:56.703 --> 00:08:58.080 (beat resumes) 176 00:08:58.163 --> 00:09:00.624 CUDI: I wasn’t thinking about making an album. 177 00:09:00.707 --> 00:09:04.211 I was just like, "Let’s try to make one good song here." 178 00:09:04.294 --> 00:09:08.840 Just one good song and just perfect that, 179 00:09:08.924 --> 00:09:10.968 and then from there we’ll figure everything out. 180 00:09:11.051 --> 00:09:13.011 But, like, let me just make at least, like, 181 00:09:13.095 --> 00:09:15.514 one song that I know is amazing. 182 00:09:15.597 --> 00:09:19.685 I was going through a really rough time, and, uh, 183 00:09:19.768 --> 00:09:23.230 it was really just, like, therapy for me to write it. 184 00:09:23.313 --> 00:09:26.733 When I was working on "Day N Nite," like, I started to sing it. 185 00:09:26.817 --> 00:09:29.152 Like... ♪ Day and night ♪ 186 00:09:29.236 --> 00:09:31.488 ♪ Oh, I toss and turn... ♪ 187 00:09:31.571 --> 00:09:33.490 Like, just really sing it. 188 00:09:34.825 --> 00:09:39.037 Dot was like, "Maybe you shouldn’t try to sing it. 189 00:09:39.121 --> 00:09:44.334 "Maybe you should just, like, say it in a melodic way." 190 00:09:44.418 --> 00:09:46.920 I wasn’t thinking about making a hit record. 191 00:09:47.004 --> 00:09:48.547 I wasn’t thinking about if motherfuckers would like it. 192 00:09:48.630 --> 00:09:49.798 I really didn’t give a fuck. 193 00:09:49.881 --> 00:09:52.301 I wrote it for me. You know what I’m saying? 194 00:09:52.384 --> 00:09:54.636 And if people felt it, that’s cool. 195 00:09:56.346 --> 00:09:59.141 I was like, "Oh, shit. Okay. 196 00:09:59.224 --> 00:10:01.643 Let me go lay this down and see what happens." 197 00:10:03.270 --> 00:10:04.313 BOTH: It came out how it came out. 198 00:10:04.396 --> 00:10:05.397 You know? 199 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.191 It was like, "Oh, shit." 200 00:10:08.275 --> 00:10:09.776 You know what I mean? 201 00:10:09.860 --> 00:10:12.029 That’s exactly how it was, is: "Oh, shit." 202 00:10:12.112 --> 00:10:14.865 ♪ ’Cause day and night... ♪ 203 00:10:14.948 --> 00:10:16.366 Man... (sighs) 204 00:10:16.450 --> 00:10:18.744 Dope. 205 00:10:18.827 --> 00:10:20.787 Man. 206 00:10:20.871 --> 00:10:22.831 "Day N Nite" is just gonna keep growing. 207 00:10:22.914 --> 00:10:26.918 It’s gonna be a timeless record that anybody’s gonna fuck with. 208 00:10:27.002 --> 00:10:28.378 ’Cause it’s so... you can relate to it 209 00:10:28.462 --> 00:10:30.297 on so many different levels, you know what I mean? 210 00:10:30.380 --> 00:10:31.631 So many different levels. 211 00:10:31.715 --> 00:10:33.842 Anybody... anybody has some type of... 212 00:10:33.925 --> 00:10:36.970 they can relate to at least one thing I talk about-- everybody. 213 00:10:37.054 --> 00:10:38.263 You know what I’m saying? 214 00:10:38.347 --> 00:10:39.639 It’s gonna be around for a long time. 215 00:10:39.723 --> 00:10:40.724 It’s gonna be a classic. 216 00:10:40.807 --> 00:10:42.351 ♪ ’Cause day and night... ♪ 217 00:10:42.434 --> 00:10:44.227 DOT: "Day N Nite" is on the radio at this time. 218 00:10:44.311 --> 00:10:45.812 Working security at Vice. 219 00:10:45.896 --> 00:10:48.565 You know, I’m like, "Yo, I made this beat." 220 00:10:49.900 --> 00:10:53.111 Like, "If you made this beat, why are you working here? 221 00:10:53.195 --> 00:10:54.946 Why are you... why are you working in security?" 222 00:10:55.030 --> 00:10:57.032 "I-I don’t know how I’m supposed to get money. 223 00:10:57.115 --> 00:10:59.910 I don’t know how it works." Like, we didn’t know anything. 224 00:10:59.993 --> 00:11:01.286 ♪ At, at, at night. ♪ 225 00:11:01.370 --> 00:11:02.913 (song ends) 226 00:11:02.996 --> 00:11:05.207 DENNIS CUMMINGS: Me and Cudi, we grew up together. 227 00:11:05.290 --> 00:11:08.960 Always the different kids in our neighborhood. 228 00:11:09.044 --> 00:11:11.129 I was a promoter in Cincinnati, 229 00:11:11.213 --> 00:11:16.259 and I’m sitting in a... in a meeting, and "Day N Nite" comes on. 230 00:11:16.343 --> 00:11:18.178 The one guy who was... 231 00:11:18.261 --> 00:11:21.640 I was getting a club from, he’s like, "Yo, I love this song." 232 00:11:21.723 --> 00:11:23.517 And I’m like, "Word. This is my guy." 233 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:24.935 He’s like, "That’s not your guy." 234 00:11:25.018 --> 00:11:26.770 I’m like, "No, this is my guy. Like, this is my guy." 235 00:11:26.853 --> 00:11:28.688 Like, "Well, let’s book him for a show." 236 00:11:28.772 --> 00:11:30.440 Get away from him and call Cudi. 237 00:11:30.524 --> 00:11:33.777 I’m like, "Yo, I got these guys who want to do this show. 238 00:11:33.860 --> 00:11:35.195 I think we can pull it off." 239 00:11:35.278 --> 00:11:38.198 He’s like, "Well, if it’s serious, let’s see if you can close it. 240 00:11:38.281 --> 00:11:40.158 "I’ll make you my road manager. 241 00:11:40.242 --> 00:11:42.411 You know, we gonna get out here and really do it." 242 00:11:42.494 --> 00:11:43.995 And then right after that, 243 00:11:44.079 --> 00:11:46.039 like, googling what a road manager was and the duties. 244 00:11:46.123 --> 00:11:48.333 (laughing): You know what I’m saying? Like... 245 00:11:50.877 --> 00:11:54.631 That whole "Internet rapper" thing is very hard for me to understand. 246 00:11:54.714 --> 00:11:58.260 So, you put your song... you... Correct me if I’m wrong. 247 00:11:58.343 --> 00:12:00.387 You didn’t have a computer, but you got your song 248 00:12:00.470 --> 00:12:02.431 -on Myspace. -Yeah. Yeah. 249 00:12:02.514 --> 00:12:04.683 Now, is this the "Day N Nite" record that we hear now today? 250 00:12:04.766 --> 00:12:07.352 Yeah, I put, um, "Day N Nite" on my Myspace for the first time... 251 00:12:07.436 --> 00:12:09.438 And when was that? What month was that? 252 00:12:09.521 --> 00:12:11.648 That was like March 2007. 253 00:12:11.731 --> 00:12:13.358 Around there. Yeah, March... 254 00:12:13.442 --> 00:12:16.236 -2007? -Yeah. Yeah. 255 00:12:16.319 --> 00:12:18.947 It was around then. I used to borrow my homeboy... 256 00:12:19.030 --> 00:12:20.991 -Two thou... Hold on, it’s ’09. -My homeboy... 257 00:12:21.074 --> 00:12:22.909 And so it’s been on there since... 258 00:12:22.993 --> 00:12:24.286 -Yeah. -(sighs) 259 00:12:24.369 --> 00:12:26.079 Been on there that long, man. 260 00:12:26.163 --> 00:12:27.747 So you had a deal then, you didn’t have a deal then? 261 00:12:27.831 --> 00:12:30.542 Uh, I actually just got my deal like two months ago. (laughs) 262 00:12:30.625 --> 00:12:32.836 While this record’s been playing on the radio all the time, 263 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:34.379 -you just got your deal? -Yeah. 264 00:12:34.463 --> 00:12:36.214 We made it on Billboard without a deal. 265 00:12:39.092 --> 00:12:41.011 EMILE HAYNIE: I’d be in my studio, man, just, like, 266 00:12:41.094 --> 00:12:43.221 making beats, going through people’s Myspace 267 00:12:43.305 --> 00:12:44.890 and listening to new sounds, new artists. 268 00:12:44.973 --> 00:12:48.101 That’s the way you kind of listened to new music at the time. 269 00:12:48.185 --> 00:12:50.562 And I came across Cudi’s page. 270 00:12:50.645 --> 00:12:52.647 He had "Day N Nite," was one of his songs, 271 00:12:52.731 --> 00:12:53.857 and I was blown away the second I heard it. 272 00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:56.693 I just thought I had... it was unlike anything I’d ever heard. 273 00:12:56.776 --> 00:12:57.903 It just sounded new. 274 00:12:57.986 --> 00:12:59.529 Like, what is this gen... 275 00:12:59.613 --> 00:13:00.864 Like, what is he doing? 276 00:13:00.947 --> 00:13:06.828 He’s singing, he’s got melody, but he’s not pushing the vocals too hard. 277 00:13:06.912 --> 00:13:10.499 The production, everything about it just felt really new and exciting. 278 00:13:10.582 --> 00:13:13.793 And then I noticed on his top eight friends list 279 00:13:13.877 --> 00:13:15.545 was my friend Plain Pat. 280 00:13:15.629 --> 00:13:17.297 PLAIN PAT: Well, I met Cudi in 2005. 281 00:13:17.380 --> 00:13:19.132 When I heard the music, I was like, "Oh, okay. 282 00:13:19.216 --> 00:13:20.509 This kid’s onto something." 283 00:13:20.592 --> 00:13:22.844 And I bumped into him at a party downtown, 284 00:13:22.928 --> 00:13:24.804 and we just... and we just started kicking it, 285 00:13:24.888 --> 00:13:27.891 and then it turned into, like, "Need you to do this mixtape." 286 00:13:27.974 --> 00:13:29.601 And I was... I was always apprehensive 287 00:13:29.684 --> 00:13:32.062 ’cause I didn’t want that responsibility of a artist, 288 00:13:32.145 --> 00:13:34.189 but he was persistent, so... (chuckles) 289 00:13:34.272 --> 00:13:35.482 All his early shit, he used to send it to me, 290 00:13:35.565 --> 00:13:36.942 used to be like, "Man, this shit is, like..." 291 00:13:37.025 --> 00:13:41.363 It’s so different and, like, weird that I would be, like, uncomfortable 292 00:13:41.446 --> 00:13:43.198 but I loved it. (laughs) 293 00:13:43.281 --> 00:13:45.408 You know what I mean? His flows, like, he would be... 294 00:13:45.492 --> 00:13:48.453 you know, they would be, like, carry on into the next bar 295 00:13:48.537 --> 00:13:50.539 or they would be, like, a little off beat or a little, like... 296 00:13:50.622 --> 00:13:52.541 You know, but it was just so dope to me. 297 00:13:52.624 --> 00:13:55.835 Like, it was just, like, so refreshing, so, like... kind of like when... 298 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:58.046 you know, when I first heard Ye, I was like, "Oh, whoa." 299 00:14:01.216 --> 00:14:03.218 ♪ ♪ 300 00:14:10.809 --> 00:14:14.396 KANYE WEST: We always listened to all forms of music. 301 00:14:16.731 --> 00:14:20.110 That’s what was good about just watching MTV. 302 00:14:20.193 --> 00:14:22.028 You got exposed to... 303 00:14:22.112 --> 00:14:26.199 ♪ Mr. Jones and me... ♪ (hums melody) 304 00:14:26.283 --> 00:14:28.577 Like, all this alternative rock, 305 00:14:28.660 --> 00:14:31.413 West Coast rap, East Coast rap, 306 00:14:31.496 --> 00:14:34.541 Southern rap, singer-songwriter. 307 00:14:34.624 --> 00:14:37.961 And the expanding your mind of "I listen to this 308 00:14:38.044 --> 00:14:41.256 style of music and different styles of music" is... 309 00:14:41.339 --> 00:14:43.675 That frontier’s been crossed, so the new frontier 310 00:14:43.758 --> 00:14:45.844 of expanding your mind is 311 00:14:45.927 --> 00:14:51.766 to not be boxed into a idea of your politics. 312 00:14:51.850 --> 00:14:55.270 To be boxed into a idea of what the Internet is feeding you 313 00:14:55.353 --> 00:14:58.315 within the echo chamber of the billion people 314 00:14:58.398 --> 00:15:00.525 that are controlled by 50. 315 00:15:00.609 --> 00:15:04.279 It’s just to go out, get out into nature, 316 00:15:04.362 --> 00:15:06.531 go to places that are less crowded, 317 00:15:06.615 --> 00:15:10.577 get into your own mind, into your own space. 318 00:15:10.660 --> 00:15:14.956 And not just for, you know, the accolades 319 00:15:15.040 --> 00:15:19.544 with inside of a system that was, you know, designed. 320 00:15:19.628 --> 00:15:23.798 And what’s beautiful is that musicians and artists tap in 321 00:15:23.882 --> 00:15:27.093 and express things in a way 322 00:15:27.177 --> 00:15:29.179 and sew together things in a way 323 00:15:29.262 --> 00:15:32.182 that help us to free our minds a lot of times. 324 00:15:32.265 --> 00:15:35.810 That’s the connection that people have with Cudi and pure artists. 325 00:15:35.894 --> 00:15:37.145 It’s just a thing 326 00:15:37.228 --> 00:15:39.814 that... it’s what we felt. 327 00:15:39.898 --> 00:15:42.734 It’s what we feel. 328 00:15:42.817 --> 00:15:44.819 Cudi just does what he feels. 329 00:15:44.903 --> 00:15:49.074 That’s the difference between the artist and others. 330 00:15:49.157 --> 00:15:55.330 Cudi’s music, it connects with people, and it’s-it’s healing. 331 00:15:55.413 --> 00:15:58.124 It’s not just for the sake of, "Here’s the rap music 332 00:15:58.208 --> 00:16:00.418 "that you play while alcohol is being poured, 333 00:16:00.502 --> 00:16:02.879 while DMs are being sent." 334 00:16:02.962 --> 00:16:07.300 Like, nah, it’s not part of that game of popularity. 335 00:16:07.384 --> 00:16:11.388 And it was always an alternative thing that became popular. 336 00:16:11.471 --> 00:16:14.474 We all don’t have to do the exact same thing. 337 00:16:15.517 --> 00:16:18.478 We were programmed from zero to seven 338 00:16:18.561 --> 00:16:21.690 to fit into this thing we call reality, 339 00:16:21.773 --> 00:16:25.568 but we’re breaking out of the constructs. 340 00:16:25.652 --> 00:16:31.116 We’re not satisfied with the constructs of current society. 341 00:16:31.199 --> 00:16:33.159 We as artists 342 00:16:33.243 --> 00:16:35.120 are like a faucet, 343 00:16:35.203 --> 00:16:38.164 and the more of our own dirt that we have, 344 00:16:38.248 --> 00:16:40.959 you know, the harder it is, actually, for people to get 345 00:16:41.042 --> 00:16:44.504 a clean message and a clean idea 346 00:16:44.587 --> 00:16:47.882 and for us to be used to the maximum 347 00:16:47.966 --> 00:16:52.262 of what God would want us to use us for. 348 00:16:52.345 --> 00:16:54.347 I feel... 349 00:17:01.354 --> 00:17:03.982 Well, that’s the end of those thoughts right there. 350 00:17:06.401 --> 00:17:09.571 DOT: So, when I say, "Kid," y’all say, "Cudi." 351 00:17:09.654 --> 00:17:10.947 -Kid. -AUDIENCE: Cudi! 352 00:17:11.030 --> 00:17:12.490 -Kid. -Cudi! 353 00:17:12.574 --> 00:17:15.326 When I say, "Fool’s," y’all say, "Gold." 354 00:17:15.410 --> 00:17:18.413 -Fool’s. Fool’s. -Gold! Gold! 355 00:17:18.496 --> 00:17:20.373 Yo, yo. Yo, yo. 356 00:17:20.457 --> 00:17:22.375 That’s what I’m talking about. 357 00:17:22.459 --> 00:17:24.586 What the fuck is up, y’all? 358 00:17:24.669 --> 00:17:27.213 I just had that long-ass flight over here, man. 359 00:17:27.297 --> 00:17:30.008 Y’all better show me some love up in this motherfucker. 360 00:17:30.091 --> 00:17:32.343 I got crazy jet lag. 361 00:17:32.427 --> 00:17:36.306 It’s like 10:35 New York time, and I’m rocking with y’all on no sleep. 362 00:17:36.389 --> 00:17:37.682 Know what I’m talking about? 363 00:17:37.766 --> 00:17:39.434 So I need everybody to come up to the stage. 364 00:17:39.517 --> 00:17:40.602 Show me some love. 365 00:17:40.685 --> 00:17:42.103 I know you got your drink and everything. 366 00:17:42.187 --> 00:17:43.563 It’s all good. 367 00:17:43.646 --> 00:17:45.273 We gonna rock out, man. 368 00:17:45.356 --> 00:17:47.400 I got my homeboy Dot da Genius with me. 369 00:17:47.484 --> 00:17:49.360 -I represent Fool’s Gold. -(feedback squeals) 370 00:17:49.444 --> 00:17:50.987 Oh, man, we got feedback. 371 00:17:51.070 --> 00:17:53.156 That’s how live we are right now. (chuckles) 372 00:17:53.239 --> 00:17:56.075 Yeah, it wasn’t until we met Pat 373 00:17:56.159 --> 00:18:01.122 and he locked in with Emile and there was some type of movement 374 00:18:01.206 --> 00:18:03.500 that we started talking about a mixtape. 375 00:18:03.583 --> 00:18:07.128 The mixtape released, and then we went to Australia. 376 00:18:07.212 --> 00:18:09.798 Which was, like, the first tour ever. 377 00:18:09.881 --> 00:18:12.383 -Just me and him. -(audience shouting) 378 00:18:12.467 --> 00:18:13.718 (phone rings) 379 00:18:13.802 --> 00:18:15.094 ROBERT ALEXANDER: Hello. 380 00:18:15.178 --> 00:18:16.721 CUDI: I just have one note. 381 00:18:16.805 --> 00:18:18.723 I just feel like this is a big moment. 382 00:18:18.807 --> 00:18:20.600 -Mm-hmm. -Like, I toured the whole country, 383 00:18:20.683 --> 00:18:23.520 and, like, maybe there should be some text on black 384 00:18:23.603 --> 00:18:24.854 where it says... 385 00:18:32.111 --> 00:18:34.405 ’Cause BAPE wouldn’t give me three weeks off... 386 00:18:39.911 --> 00:18:41.454 You know? 387 00:18:41.538 --> 00:18:42.622 -Kid. -Cudi! 388 00:18:42.705 --> 00:18:44.374 I know there’s been some, you know, problems 389 00:18:44.457 --> 00:18:46.459 with pronouncing my name, but it’s "Cudi." 390 00:18:46.543 --> 00:18:48.378 You know what I’m saying? It’s Cudi. 391 00:18:48.461 --> 00:18:50.421 -So everybody say, "Cudi." -Cudi! 392 00:18:50.505 --> 00:18:52.799 -Cudi! Cudi! -Cudi! Cudi! 393 00:18:52.882 --> 00:18:54.759 Yeah, so there’ll be nobody coming up to me 394 00:18:54.843 --> 00:18:56.803 saying "Coodie," then, a’ight? 395 00:18:56.886 --> 00:18:58.555 Then we got that established. 396 00:18:58.638 --> 00:19:00.765 It was crazy. The first show was literally, 397 00:19:00.849 --> 00:19:03.685 like, maybe ten, 15 people. 398 00:19:03.768 --> 00:19:06.646 And you could tell they were just drunk and they were just like, 399 00:19:06.729 --> 00:19:08.982 "Oh, you know, it’s entertainment," you know? 400 00:19:09.065 --> 00:19:12.110 You can tell that they didn’t know who he was, 401 00:19:12.193 --> 00:19:15.738 but they might have heard "Day N Nite," which was kind of crazy. 402 00:19:15.822 --> 00:19:19.659 ♪ The lonely stoner seems to free his mind at night ♪ 403 00:19:19.742 --> 00:19:23.371 ♪ He’s all alone, some things will never change ♪ 404 00:19:23.454 --> 00:19:26.666 ♪ The lonely loner seems to free his mind at night ♪ 405 00:19:26.749 --> 00:19:28.710 ♪ At, at, at night. ♪ 406 00:19:28.793 --> 00:19:30.795 (heavy beat plays) 407 00:19:35.884 --> 00:19:37.844 SYLVIA RHONE: I’ve always looked for 408 00:19:37.927 --> 00:19:41.055 the most off-the-wall music and artists that I can find, 409 00:19:41.139 --> 00:19:42.682 because I think that’s 410 00:19:42.765 --> 00:19:45.518 where the excitement comes. 411 00:19:45.602 --> 00:19:50.356 When I signed Cudi, it was a very competitive bidding war. 412 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:52.734 It was night and day I stayed up... 413 00:19:52.817 --> 00:19:55.612 (chuckles) to make this deal for a week. 414 00:19:55.695 --> 00:19:57.488 He was the guy who 415 00:19:57.572 --> 00:20:01.910 smashed and mashed culture and defied genres. 416 00:20:01.993 --> 00:20:03.161 Everybody could see 417 00:20:03.244 --> 00:20:06.623 that he was on the wave of something new. 418 00:20:06.706 --> 00:20:08.708 (electronic music playing) 419 00:20:23.514 --> 00:20:25.516 ♪ ♪ 420 00:20:41.199 --> 00:20:43.785 JEFF BHASKER: He definitely has a keen sense of harmony. 421 00:20:43.868 --> 00:20:45.203 I feel like 422 00:20:45.286 --> 00:20:49.248 he has his own point of view and... 423 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:54.087 ...maybe he feeds off, like, a certain energy 424 00:20:54.170 --> 00:20:57.173 and there was an aesthetic going back and forth 425 00:20:57.256 --> 00:20:59.217 through Pat and Emile 426 00:20:59.300 --> 00:21:04.472 and Pat working with Kanye and crossing, 427 00:21:04.555 --> 00:21:06.099 and then Kid Cudi put his stuff... 428 00:21:06.182 --> 00:21:09.185 It was all in this, like, solar system 429 00:21:09.268 --> 00:21:10.812 of vibration. 430 00:21:10.895 --> 00:21:13.022 (music stops) 431 00:21:13.106 --> 00:21:14.816 Shit. 432 00:21:14.899 --> 00:21:16.609 Didn’t record it. 433 00:21:16.693 --> 00:21:20.446 KANYE: When I first heard Cudi, it felt really new, 434 00:21:20.530 --> 00:21:23.282 the combination of him 435 00:21:23.366 --> 00:21:28.705 putting the melody with the rap in a way that 436 00:21:28.788 --> 00:21:33.418 I hadn’t really heard that since, like, Bone Thugs. 437 00:21:33.501 --> 00:21:35.670 PAT: I would play Kanye 438 00:21:35.753 --> 00:21:38.172 early Cudi demos, like the stuff him and Dot were doing. 439 00:21:38.256 --> 00:21:39.841 And then I guess, after we made the mixtape, 440 00:21:39.924 --> 00:21:41.926 he was like, "Man, I need to be a part of this." 441 00:21:42.010 --> 00:21:43.219 ("Maui Wowie" by Kid Cudi playing) 442 00:21:43.302 --> 00:21:44.846 ♪ Going back to Honolulu. ♪ 443 00:21:44.929 --> 00:21:46.472 We were in Hawaii, and I was like, "Yo, Cudi, 444 00:21:46.556 --> 00:21:48.182 you need to get out here. Figure it out." 445 00:21:48.266 --> 00:21:50.309 He figured it out. He got out there. 446 00:21:50.393 --> 00:21:52.020 And K-Kanye didn’t pay for it or nothing. 447 00:21:52.103 --> 00:21:54.313 -First night in, he was writing... -ALL: "Heartless." 448 00:21:54.397 --> 00:21:55.940 JEFF: I think it was actually the first time 449 00:21:56.024 --> 00:21:58.443 that he had come down to Hawaii. 450 00:21:58.526 --> 00:22:01.487 Had "Day N Nite" was, like, poppin’. 451 00:22:01.571 --> 00:22:03.948 He’s on... he’s on a... on a high. 452 00:22:04.032 --> 00:22:05.742 Then he’s got a... then he’s in the studio, 453 00:22:05.825 --> 00:22:07.744 and we’re gonna, like, write, and we have the beat. 454 00:22:07.827 --> 00:22:09.954 I just go, "Okay, Cudi, like, do the melody. 455 00:22:10.038 --> 00:22:12.790 Do the... do the... do your Kid Cudi thing." 456 00:22:12.874 --> 00:22:16.502 He was sitting in the front area in-in the Hawaii studio, 457 00:22:16.586 --> 00:22:19.797 and I’m on the laptop, and he’s like, "Okay, this is what I got." 458 00:22:19.881 --> 00:22:22.717 (audience cheering) 459 00:22:25.762 --> 00:22:27.013 He said... 460 00:22:37.482 --> 00:22:39.942 It’s like, "Aah! What?" 461 00:22:44.864 --> 00:22:45.990 ♪ Yo... ♪ 462 00:22:46.074 --> 00:22:49.035 Slam dunk for the win. 463 00:22:49.118 --> 00:22:50.578 ♪ I hear ’em talk ♪ 464 00:22:50.661 --> 00:22:53.414 ♪ The coldest story ever told ♪ 465 00:22:53.498 --> 00:22:56.084 ♪ Somewhere far along this road ♪ 466 00:22:56.167 --> 00:22:59.670 ♪ He lost his soul to a woman so heartless... ♪ 467 00:22:59.754 --> 00:23:02.632 That’s just Cudi, man. Cudi just has that, like... 468 00:23:02.715 --> 00:23:05.051 his thing with melody is just amazing. 469 00:23:05.134 --> 00:23:08.387 ♪ Heartless, mm, whoa ♪ 470 00:23:08.471 --> 00:23:10.640 ♪ How could you be so heartless? ♪ 471 00:23:10.723 --> 00:23:12.517 -Wow. (laughs) -KANYE: Make some noise for Kid Cudi. 472 00:23:12.600 --> 00:23:14.268 (audience cheering) 473 00:23:15.937 --> 00:23:18.106 CUDI: From there, like, Kanye cosigned me, 474 00:23:18.189 --> 00:23:20.108 and then I started working on 808s & Heartbreak. 475 00:23:20.191 --> 00:23:21.734 I started working on Blueprint 3. 476 00:23:24.320 --> 00:23:26.364 And this is all before my debut. 477 00:23:27.615 --> 00:23:30.076 So it was like people were waiting. 478 00:23:30.159 --> 00:23:33.496 If I had got caught up in expectations 479 00:23:33.579 --> 00:23:36.082 and what people wanted from me, 480 00:23:36.165 --> 00:23:40.044 Man on the Moon: The End of Day would not have sounded how it sounded. 481 00:23:40.128 --> 00:23:44.590 Going in, I had this idea, like, "Yeah, Kanye’s gonna be involved," 482 00:23:44.674 --> 00:23:46.384 and all this and all that. 483 00:23:46.467 --> 00:23:49.804 But, like, when it got to it and I got the deal done 484 00:23:49.887 --> 00:23:54.475 and I was working on these songs with Pat and Emile and Dot, 485 00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:57.436 I was really, like, "I’m creating a sound here. 486 00:23:57.520 --> 00:23:59.814 I trust my vision." 487 00:23:59.897 --> 00:24:01.899 And... 488 00:24:01.983 --> 00:24:04.443 I might not need Kanye like that. 489 00:24:04.527 --> 00:24:08.906 You know, and I kind of just put that noise out of my mind 490 00:24:08.990 --> 00:24:11.367 and just kind of focused on the art 491 00:24:11.450 --> 00:24:14.036 and my story and what I was trying to tell. 492 00:24:14.120 --> 00:24:17.039 ♪ You’re in my dream now. ♪ 493 00:24:18.541 --> 00:24:21.002 WILLOW SMITH: ♪ I watch the sun collapse and took up in the clizzoud ♪ 494 00:24:21.085 --> 00:24:23.337 ♪ I am the lone wolf, go where I wanna. ♪ 495 00:24:24.422 --> 00:24:27.842 The acceptance and the knowledge to see 496 00:24:27.925 --> 00:24:31.971 how to get your vision done 497 00:24:32.054 --> 00:24:35.099 is-is an art in itself. (chuckles) 498 00:24:35.183 --> 00:24:39.187 And really, it honestly just comes or it doesn’t. 499 00:24:39.270 --> 00:24:43.065 And that’s something that I struggle with a lot 500 00:24:43.149 --> 00:24:44.984 because it just sucks when you’re like, 501 00:24:45.067 --> 00:24:47.737 "Let’s get it," and your heart and your mind is just like, 502 00:24:47.820 --> 00:24:49.530 "We don’t really have anything to say right now. 503 00:24:49.614 --> 00:24:50.823 So sorry about that." 504 00:24:50.907 --> 00:24:54.994 You have to dig that well and get to that place 505 00:24:55.077 --> 00:24:57.246 in order to really see what’s going on. 506 00:24:57.330 --> 00:25:00.499 Or else I feel like I’m just writing... 507 00:25:00.583 --> 00:25:02.752 some BS, low-key. 508 00:25:02.835 --> 00:25:05.254 I never say no. (chuckles) 509 00:25:05.338 --> 00:25:08.716 Never tell a artist no or, "You can’t," or, you know, 510 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:10.384 "Don’t do that." 511 00:25:10.468 --> 00:25:12.720 They’re artists. They’re supposed to think outside the box 512 00:25:12.803 --> 00:25:16.724 and do things that you think that you’re not supposed to do. 513 00:25:16.807 --> 00:25:19.560 I mean, just making something is a fucking achievement, 514 00:25:19.644 --> 00:25:21.103 and you shouldn’t, like, 515 00:25:21.187 --> 00:25:24.232 say something is wack just because you don’t like it. 516 00:25:24.315 --> 00:25:25.858 You know, like, somebody still 517 00:25:25.942 --> 00:25:29.320 sat fucking down and made that shit with their hands and their, and their head. 518 00:25:29.403 --> 00:25:33.115 You really got to be like-- I don’t even know. 519 00:25:33.199 --> 00:25:35.368 I was about to say "comfortable," but, uh, 520 00:25:35.451 --> 00:25:36.786 that’s definitely not me or anybody I know. 521 00:25:36.869 --> 00:25:38.079 (laughs) You know what I mean? 522 00:25:38.162 --> 00:25:40.665 You got to just, like-- you just got to love the shit, man. 523 00:25:42.333 --> 00:25:45.962 SHIA LaBEOUF: What makes an artist is fully investing your heart. 524 00:25:46.045 --> 00:25:47.421 That’s all it takes. 525 00:25:47.505 --> 00:25:50.967 And so, if you don’t give a fuck, 526 00:25:51.050 --> 00:25:53.636 then why invest your heart? 527 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.639 I think the best artists all have that... 528 00:25:56.722 --> 00:26:02.270 one, that drive that they feel like they need to, to be able to survive, 529 00:26:02.353 --> 00:26:06.524 but also this confidence in that 530 00:26:06.607 --> 00:26:10.111 the people on the other side need this shit. 531 00:26:10.194 --> 00:26:12.488 That, in sharing this with people, 532 00:26:12.571 --> 00:26:15.324 healing can happen not just for the person making this shit 533 00:26:15.408 --> 00:26:17.952 but for the person receiving this shit. 534 00:26:18.035 --> 00:26:20.955 And in that connection, that’s where art is. 535 00:26:21.038 --> 00:26:22.540 It’s in that 536 00:26:22.623 --> 00:26:25.543 full investment of heart on both sides. 537 00:26:30.840 --> 00:26:33.301 My favorite shit has come from 538 00:26:33.384 --> 00:26:35.970 when I know in my heart I couldn’t have given anything else, 539 00:26:36.053 --> 00:26:40.558 when I lose myself wholly and completely to this other thing. 540 00:26:40.641 --> 00:26:42.852 Which really comes through collaboration. 541 00:26:46.605 --> 00:26:50.526 It’s really nice to, like, fail in front of people. 542 00:26:50.609 --> 00:26:53.237 And also feel like, on the other side of that failure, 543 00:26:53.321 --> 00:26:55.323 these people still fuck with you. 544 00:26:56.741 --> 00:27:01.370 It gives you a confidence level where you’re not afraid to fail. 545 00:27:02.538 --> 00:27:05.374 JEFF: People can get so hung up on fucking up, 546 00:27:05.458 --> 00:27:08.210 and, like, that’s kind of the main way you learn. 547 00:27:09.837 --> 00:27:11.839 And sometimes you can just fuck up 548 00:27:11.922 --> 00:27:14.300 into creating something new and amazing and beautiful. 549 00:27:15.801 --> 00:27:18.137 Daring to suck. 550 00:27:18.220 --> 00:27:20.473 (chuckles) Just dare to suck. 551 00:27:20.556 --> 00:27:22.725 DON C: That new frontier, 552 00:27:22.808 --> 00:27:25.436 it takes a lot of courage to go towards, 553 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.772 especially if it hasn’t been done before. 554 00:27:29.231 --> 00:27:34.487 We see in a small bubble how positive energy can inspire others 555 00:27:34.570 --> 00:27:37.615 to then effect even a bigger bubble. 556 00:27:37.698 --> 00:27:41.327 So let’s just apply that principle and keep expounding on it 557 00:27:41.410 --> 00:27:45.956 until all seven billion people on Earth is 558 00:27:46.040 --> 00:27:47.792 inspired and happy. 559 00:27:50.169 --> 00:27:52.630 SHIA: You’ll always have some haters, yeah, 560 00:27:52.713 --> 00:27:55.883 who’ll be like, "What’s this weird Wiccan shit?" 561 00:27:55.966 --> 00:28:00.346 If it was just me and somebody said that, I’d fucking sink into myself. 562 00:28:00.429 --> 00:28:02.181 I’d fall apart. 563 00:28:02.264 --> 00:28:05.393 But because I got a group of people holding me up, 564 00:28:05.476 --> 00:28:08.562 I can actually have that no-fucks-to-give mentality. 565 00:28:08.646 --> 00:28:11.232 JEFF: It’s okay to question. 566 00:28:11.315 --> 00:28:17.405 It’s okay to explore all angles of a sound or a thought or an idea. 567 00:28:17.488 --> 00:28:19.573 It radiates positivity. 568 00:28:21.492 --> 00:28:27.540 And the belief that you can accomplish your dreams. 569 00:28:27.623 --> 00:28:32.086 You can express yourself, and your deepest self is great. 570 00:28:36.882 --> 00:28:39.468 The scariest, ugliest thing about you... 571 00:28:41.011 --> 00:28:42.638 ...is great. 572 00:28:47.393 --> 00:28:49.854 COMMON: ♪ But toward the end of our first ten years ♪ 573 00:28:49.937 --> 00:28:51.647 ♪ Into the millennium, we heard a voice ♪ 574 00:28:51.730 --> 00:28:53.399 ♪ A voice who was speaking to us ♪ 575 00:28:53.482 --> 00:28:54.942 ♪ From the underground for some time ♪ 576 00:28:55.025 --> 00:28:56.861 ♪ A voice who spoke of vulnerabilities ♪ 577 00:28:56.944 --> 00:28:58.821 ♪ And other human emotions and issues ♪ 578 00:28:58.904 --> 00:29:00.573 ♪ Never before heard so vividly and honest ♪ 579 00:29:00.656 --> 00:29:02.575 ♪ This is the story of a young man ♪ 580 00:29:02.658 --> 00:29:06.328 ♪ Who not only believed in himself but his dreams, too ♪ 581 00:29:06.412 --> 00:29:10.583 ♪ This is the story of the Man on the Moon. ♪ 582 00:29:17.339 --> 00:29:21.135 The first thing that was important to me 583 00:29:21.218 --> 00:29:25.306 is to make something that... 584 00:29:25.389 --> 00:29:29.560 kind of called out to the broken and the lost. 585 00:29:29.643 --> 00:29:33.230 For me to find kids that felt like how I felt. 586 00:29:33.314 --> 00:29:36.358 So I wanted to kind of design something tailor-made to Scott. 587 00:29:36.442 --> 00:29:37.651 ♪ Scotty... ♪ 588 00:29:54.919 --> 00:29:57.546 -♪ The soundtrack to my life ♪ -♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 589 00:29:57.630 --> 00:29:59.757 ♪ The soundtrack to my life. ♪ 590 00:29:59.840 --> 00:30:04.845 "Soundtrack 2 My Life" was like my introduction to the world. 591 00:30:04.929 --> 00:30:08.182 Like, kind of like my... my mission statement. 592 00:30:08.265 --> 00:30:12.186 It was really important for me to be as honest as possible. 593 00:30:12.269 --> 00:30:13.771 Moments where I say, like, 594 00:30:13.854 --> 00:30:15.773 "I’m probably this close to go and trying some coke." 595 00:30:15.856 --> 00:30:18.609 Like, that was a real... 596 00:30:18.692 --> 00:30:20.361 feeling. 597 00:30:20.444 --> 00:30:22.780 I was a little worried about what my mom may think 598 00:30:22.863 --> 00:30:26.700 and my family and friends, 599 00:30:26.784 --> 00:30:28.869 but, uh, ultimately, 600 00:30:28.953 --> 00:30:33.082 it was about being honest and just being a true artist. 601 00:30:33.165 --> 00:30:35.543 EMILE: The way I knew how to make music 602 00:30:35.626 --> 00:30:40.506 until I met Cudi was to sit in my studio alone and make beats, 603 00:30:40.589 --> 00:30:44.927 come up with a beat, and then try to go pitch it. 604 00:30:45.010 --> 00:30:49.265 I remember playing him the beats that I already had, and he just didn’t... 605 00:30:49.348 --> 00:30:51.767 it wasn’t really connecting with him, you know? 606 00:30:51.850 --> 00:30:54.228 And it wasn’t until I started playing records 607 00:30:54.311 --> 00:30:57.856 and playing synth sounds and this that he started going. 608 00:30:57.940 --> 00:30:59.567 It was instantaneous. 609 00:30:59.650 --> 00:31:03.654 The second I started playing fresh stuff that was creating stuff on the spot, 610 00:31:03.737 --> 00:31:06.615 that’s when the wheels started turning and he would just start writing. 611 00:31:06.699 --> 00:31:07.866 You know, if I... 612 00:31:07.950 --> 00:31:09.952 (playing chords) 613 00:31:13.872 --> 00:31:16.041 Like, I’d be playing these kind of chords-- 614 00:31:16.125 --> 00:31:19.295 like, really simple things-- ’cause I just didn’t have 615 00:31:19.378 --> 00:31:22.047 the wherewithal to, like, do anything more complex, 616 00:31:22.131 --> 00:31:23.674 and he would just... I would do that, 617 00:31:23.757 --> 00:31:26.510 and he would put the mic on, and he would go in the booth. 618 00:31:26.594 --> 00:31:28.846 And I’m like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, I got to, like, put this... 619 00:31:28.929 --> 00:31:31.056 I got to put this on tempo and put it in the computer." 620 00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:33.601 And he just didn’t want to hear that. He was ready to go. 621 00:31:33.684 --> 00:31:37.938 So, as... as kind of basic as that was that I just played, 622 00:31:38.022 --> 00:31:41.025 he would then take it and do something fresh with it. 623 00:31:41.108 --> 00:31:43.110 Anything I come up with 624 00:31:43.193 --> 00:31:45.195 that I would maybe second-guess if I was just alone-- 625 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.406 I would think, like, you know, "Who am I gonna play..."-- 626 00:31:47.489 --> 00:31:49.325 like, he would get inspired by it 627 00:31:49.408 --> 00:31:51.327 and come up with something cool that would then inspire me, 628 00:31:51.410 --> 00:31:52.661 and we would go back and forth. 629 00:31:52.745 --> 00:31:55.956 So it was like-- completely changed 630 00:31:56.040 --> 00:31:58.709 the way I thought about music, the way my process happened, 631 00:31:58.792 --> 00:32:00.836 the sounds that I was looking for. 632 00:32:00.919 --> 00:32:06.925 This takes you from being a beat maker to being a songwriter. 633 00:32:08.469 --> 00:32:10.971 So we’d just kind of be listening... 634 00:32:11.055 --> 00:32:13.515 we’d, like, flip through records... 635 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.601 ("Birds" by Menahan Street Band playing) 636 00:32:15.684 --> 00:32:17.895 And, um... I remember on this one he heard, like... 637 00:32:17.978 --> 00:32:20.981 ("The Contender" by Menahan Street Band playing) 638 00:32:22.024 --> 00:32:23.984 Let’s see. 639 00:32:25.027 --> 00:32:26.403 Is this the right record? 640 00:32:26.487 --> 00:32:28.322 ("The Traitor" by Menahan Street Band playing) 641 00:32:28.405 --> 00:32:29.657 That sounds like it. 642 00:32:29.740 --> 00:32:31.325 And we just kind of like... 643 00:32:31.408 --> 00:32:34.411 (synth beat plays along with "The Traitor") 644 00:32:37.790 --> 00:32:40.167 I think we were, like, probably playing video games or something 645 00:32:40.250 --> 00:32:43.504 and that came on in the background, and he was just like, "What is that?" 646 00:32:43.587 --> 00:32:45.214 I’m like, "Ah, it’s, like, my friends’ thing." 647 00:32:45.297 --> 00:32:47.633 And he’s like, you know, "Loop it up and maybe pitch it." 648 00:32:47.716 --> 00:32:49.426 So we, like, pitched it. 649 00:32:51.679 --> 00:32:53.514 Pitched it way down, something like... 650 00:32:53.597 --> 00:32:55.557 (plays melody with low pitch) 651 00:33:01.271 --> 00:33:03.315 So I’d have something like that, 652 00:33:03.399 --> 00:33:07.861 and by the time it took me to just do that and then put it into the computer 653 00:33:07.945 --> 00:33:11.073 and just do a loop, he’s got the verse written. 654 00:33:11.156 --> 00:33:13.033 So that would kind of be the process. 655 00:33:13.117 --> 00:33:16.203 "Solo Dolo" was just so unorthodox and weird. 656 00:33:16.286 --> 00:33:17.705 It’s just got that-that loop. 657 00:33:17.788 --> 00:33:19.123 (loop from "The Traitor" continues playing) 658 00:33:19.206 --> 00:33:20.708 That... (humming melody) 659 00:33:22.501 --> 00:33:25.337 It’s just, like, hypnotizing. 660 00:33:25.421 --> 00:33:27.089 And eerie. 661 00:33:27.172 --> 00:33:29.299 It’s a little scary a little bit. 662 00:33:29.383 --> 00:33:34.263 And I-I love how I sound on that record, you know? 663 00:33:34.346 --> 00:33:37.766 Like, I’m really... I’m really proud of the performance. 664 00:33:37.850 --> 00:33:40.352 (laughs) 665 00:33:40.436 --> 00:33:43.105 ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪ 666 00:33:48.277 --> 00:33:50.028 SCHOOLBOY Q: "Solo Dolo," like, 667 00:33:50.112 --> 00:33:51.989 bro, when that shit come in, like... 668 00:33:52.072 --> 00:33:54.867 ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪ 669 00:33:54.950 --> 00:33:58.328 And it’s like, "Oh, my God, this shit is crazy." 670 00:34:07.504 --> 00:34:08.881 PAT: We already had "Pursuit." 671 00:34:08.964 --> 00:34:11.508 I mean, we had basically the album, and the label was like, 672 00:34:11.592 --> 00:34:12.718 "We need another ’Day N Nite.’" 673 00:34:12.801 --> 00:34:14.261 And it’s like, yeah, but "Day N Nite" 674 00:34:14.344 --> 00:34:16.138 wasn’t "Day N Nite" until it became "Day N Nite." 675 00:34:16.221 --> 00:34:18.098 And they were pushing us to, you know, 676 00:34:18.182 --> 00:34:20.476 make a radio song or make something catchy. 677 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.228 But, you know, Cudi wasn’t hearing... he wasn’t trying to hear none of that. 678 00:34:23.312 --> 00:34:26.023 And I was like, "No, you have to listen to me. 679 00:34:26.106 --> 00:34:27.357 You have to listen." 680 00:34:27.441 --> 00:34:29.359 Like, I was in that office having a tantrum. 681 00:34:29.443 --> 00:34:30.569 I was like, "No. 682 00:34:30.652 --> 00:34:32.821 "This is the next single. 683 00:34:32.905 --> 00:34:35.491 You have to believe me. Trust me." 684 00:34:35.574 --> 00:34:37.785 Our next guest is a, uh, popular rapper 685 00:34:37.868 --> 00:34:40.996 whose forthcoming CD, uh, right here is entitled... 686 00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:42.831 ALL: Man on the Moon: The End of the Day. 687 00:34:42.915 --> 00:34:45.083 Please give a huge welcome to Kid Cudi. 688 00:34:45.167 --> 00:34:48.962 ♪ I’m on the pursuit of happiness, and I know ♪ 689 00:34:49.046 --> 00:34:54.218 ♪ Everything that shine ain’t always gonna be gold, hey ♪ 690 00:34:54.301 --> 00:34:58.388 ♪ I’ll be fine once I get it ♪ 691 00:34:58.472 --> 00:35:01.767 ♪ I’ll be good... ♪ 692 00:35:01.850 --> 00:35:02.851 ALL: Man on the Moon... 693 00:35:02.935 --> 00:35:04.561 NOAH CALLAHAN-BEVER: ...is arguably 694 00:35:04.645 --> 00:35:07.189 one of the most influential albums in the last 695 00:35:07.272 --> 00:35:08.482 20 years. 696 00:35:10.984 --> 00:35:12.945 SCHOOLBOY Q: Where I come from, we don’t... 697 00:35:13.028 --> 00:35:14.905 we don’t even try to touch those feelings 698 00:35:14.988 --> 00:35:18.075 and emotions, like being, like, uh, depressed or sad. 699 00:35:18.158 --> 00:35:20.077 And if you are depressed, you don’t mention it. 700 00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:21.620 You keep that in. 701 00:35:21.703 --> 00:35:23.288 You-you fight through it, nigga. Suck it up. 702 00:35:23.372 --> 00:35:24.957 Like, you know what I mean? 703 00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:27.167 No crying. Chin up, chest out. 704 00:35:27.251 --> 00:35:28.877 NOAH: He pulled back the layers 705 00:35:28.961 --> 00:35:31.129 to show you some universal truths. 706 00:35:31.213 --> 00:35:33.006 That created a depth of connection 707 00:35:33.090 --> 00:35:36.343 that very, very few artists are able to create. 708 00:35:36.426 --> 00:35:38.929 SCHOOLBOY Q: Songs like "Pursuit of Happiness" and shit. 709 00:35:39.012 --> 00:35:42.099 You know, that’s, like, basically saying, "Hey, nigga, you depressed. 710 00:35:42.182 --> 00:35:43.559 "You can’t hide it. 711 00:35:43.642 --> 00:35:45.894 "You trying to act like you don’t want to hear the song. 712 00:35:45.978 --> 00:35:47.688 "You’re constantly listening to it 713 00:35:47.771 --> 00:35:49.898 while trying to act like you’re not listening to it." 714 00:35:49.982 --> 00:35:51.358 That was like a caver for me. 715 00:35:51.441 --> 00:35:53.527 Like, all that "chin up, chest out" shit was a real caver 716 00:35:53.610 --> 00:35:56.905 when that "Pursuit of Happiness" really hits you. 717 00:35:56.989 --> 00:35:58.866 CUDI: It’s a really dark song. 718 00:35:58.949 --> 00:36:00.784 Probably one of the darkest on the album. 719 00:36:00.868 --> 00:36:02.286 That’s why it’s labeled "Nightmare." 720 00:36:02.369 --> 00:36:04.162 I think that got lost on some people. 721 00:36:04.246 --> 00:36:08.083 When we did the remix and stuff like that, it became, like, something else. 722 00:36:08.166 --> 00:36:09.626 So it bothered me at first. 723 00:36:09.710 --> 00:36:11.253 I was like, "Oh, they missed the point. 724 00:36:11.336 --> 00:36:12.963 "This is not supposed to be celebrated. 725 00:36:13.046 --> 00:36:14.506 I’m talking about drinking and driving." 726 00:36:14.590 --> 00:36:16.967 Like, I’m very reckless on the song. 727 00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:20.304 I’m saying, "I’m-a do just what I want." Saying, "Fuck that." 728 00:36:20.387 --> 00:36:23.223 Like, it’s... it’s very rebellious. 729 00:36:23.307 --> 00:36:26.184 But now, like, I-I don’t really... 730 00:36:26.268 --> 00:36:28.061 I don’t really trip about that. 731 00:36:28.145 --> 00:36:31.732 Like, I love the reaction to "Pursuit" every time I do it at the shows. 732 00:36:31.815 --> 00:36:33.692 Like, I got to perform that song. You know? 733 00:36:33.775 --> 00:36:36.361 Like, I’ll be performing that song forever. 734 00:36:36.445 --> 00:36:39.364 ♪ Hey, hey, hey... ♪ 735 00:36:39.448 --> 00:36:40.657 ALL: Man on the Moon. 736 00:36:40.741 --> 00:36:43.619 ♪ Uh, little homey... ♪ 737 00:36:43.702 --> 00:36:45.537 He’s soulful, and he’s funny, 738 00:36:45.621 --> 00:36:47.247 -and he’s so sensitive. -You say what, now? 739 00:36:47.331 --> 00:36:48.498 -JEFF: But those melodies. -ALL: Melodies. 740 00:36:48.582 --> 00:36:50.542 No one else has those melodies. 741 00:36:50.626 --> 00:36:52.044 Like on, uh, "Heart of a Lion" and... 742 00:36:52.127 --> 00:36:53.921 ♪ No, no, no, no, no ♪ 743 00:36:54.004 --> 00:36:55.589 -♪ Yeah. ♪ -And all that stuff. 744 00:36:55.672 --> 00:36:57.633 You feel like, "Aw, if I had a beat, man, 745 00:36:57.716 --> 00:37:00.636 I could come up with that shit," you know, but you can’t. 746 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.346 SCHOOLBOY Q: It was just a different vibe, 747 00:37:02.429 --> 00:37:04.306 and it was no shit I never heard before. 748 00:37:04.389 --> 00:37:05.474 Dude, I was just like, 749 00:37:05.557 --> 00:37:07.392 "What the fuck am I listening to?" 750 00:37:07.476 --> 00:37:08.977 Right, I’m like... I didn’t get it. 751 00:37:09.061 --> 00:37:11.021 Like, "Why do I like this shit?" Like... 752 00:37:11.104 --> 00:37:12.981 I kept playing this shit. 753 00:37:13.065 --> 00:37:15.067 Kept, kept playing this shit. 754 00:37:15.150 --> 00:37:18.737 And then I got it. I’m like, "This shit is just hard." 755 00:37:18.820 --> 00:37:20.572 JADEN SMITH: When I was younger, I would just always 756 00:37:20.656 --> 00:37:23.200 hang out with my older brother, and my older brother 757 00:37:23.283 --> 00:37:24.952 was just obsessed with listening to Cudi, you know... 758 00:37:25.035 --> 00:37:26.578 -"Pursuit of Happiness." -"Cudi Zone." -"Heart of a Lion." 759 00:37:26.662 --> 00:37:28.789 ...and he would just put it on loop, like, all day, 760 00:37:28.872 --> 00:37:30.624 so, like, I didn’t even know who we were listening to 761 00:37:30.707 --> 00:37:32.209 for the longest time, 762 00:37:32.292 --> 00:37:35.170 and then it just kind of became ingrained into me. 763 00:37:35.253 --> 00:37:38.382 It’s showing people all over the world that they can do whatever they want, 764 00:37:38.465 --> 00:37:40.258 especially people of color who are just like, 765 00:37:40.342 --> 00:37:43.095 "Oh, I can’t do this," or, "This is not my thing." 766 00:37:43.178 --> 00:37:45.097 It’s like, "No, this can be your thing." 767 00:37:45.180 --> 00:37:47.724 Whatever your thing is, you can do that. 768 00:37:47.808 --> 00:37:51.895 That opened up a whole new frontier of just kids 769 00:37:51.979 --> 00:37:54.564 that are now today the ones that are 770 00:37:54.648 --> 00:37:57.317 -the forerunners of culture. -I know. 771 00:37:57.401 --> 00:37:59.152 When I heard Man on the Moon, that was the first time 772 00:37:59.236 --> 00:38:01.488 I heard an album, like, so... 773 00:38:01.571 --> 00:38:02.614 ALL: ...unique. 774 00:38:02.698 --> 00:38:04.074 He just was the wizard. 775 00:38:04.157 --> 00:38:07.077 Bridging techno and rap, I mean, just all these things, you know, like, 776 00:38:07.160 --> 00:38:10.038 that weren’t necessarily being done. 777 00:38:10.122 --> 00:38:11.999 Wizard. 778 00:38:12.082 --> 00:38:15.168 You know, you bring in something from a completely different world 779 00:38:15.252 --> 00:38:18.088 into your world, and it’s not normal, 780 00:38:18.171 --> 00:38:21.883 but it works, and people like, "Okay, well, now we can do that." 781 00:38:21.967 --> 00:38:24.511 I don’t know. 782 00:38:24.594 --> 00:38:28.056 That nigga just was a different... he was a weird, ill nigga. 783 00:38:28.140 --> 00:38:29.933 (chuckling): Like... 784 00:38:30.017 --> 00:38:33.270 he was a ill nigga, man, you know? 785 00:38:33.353 --> 00:38:34.855 Honestly, "Sky Might Fall." 786 00:38:34.938 --> 00:38:36.898 Like, I can’t lie. I can’t lie. 787 00:38:36.982 --> 00:38:38.358 (laughs) 788 00:38:39.693 --> 00:38:44.698 ♪ The sky might fall, the sky might fall ♪ 789 00:38:44.781 --> 00:38:47.826 ♪ But I’m not worried at all ♪ 790 00:38:47.909 --> 00:38:49.745 ♪ Hey, hey, I let ’em know somethin’... ♪ 791 00:38:49.828 --> 00:38:51.955 -DON C: When it came out... -BOTH: Man on the Moon. 792 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.417 DON C: ...album connected with a audience of kids 793 00:38:55.500 --> 00:38:58.170 that had never had a artist connect with them. 794 00:38:58.253 --> 00:39:01.173 Ye started the movement with College Dropout. 795 00:39:01.256 --> 00:39:04.634 Man on the Moon picked it up, and then it was a big momentum 796 00:39:04.718 --> 00:39:07.888 of that snowball effect that really completely affected culture. 797 00:39:07.971 --> 00:39:10.390 Before then, people only represented, 798 00:39:10.474 --> 00:39:12.517 like, "I’m the cool guy," or, "I’m the thug," 799 00:39:12.601 --> 00:39:14.269 or, "I’m the gangster." 800 00:39:14.352 --> 00:39:16.938 But it was never, like, "I’m a introvert. 801 00:39:17.022 --> 00:39:19.274 I’m hurt over these things that have happened in my life." 802 00:39:19.357 --> 00:39:22.402 These are feelings we all go through, but nobody wants to talk about it. 803 00:39:22.486 --> 00:39:25.697 Now we all feel comfortable because of that. 804 00:39:25.781 --> 00:39:29.451 A$AP ROCKY: He was changing the game by being his own protégé 805 00:39:29.534 --> 00:39:33.580 and musing himself and letting Kanye muse him and... 806 00:39:33.663 --> 00:39:35.499 and show people, like, yo, you can be weird. 807 00:39:35.582 --> 00:39:37.209 You can be yourself. 808 00:39:37.292 --> 00:39:38.585 You can be from Cleveland. 809 00:39:38.668 --> 00:39:40.212 You can be from wherever. 810 00:39:40.295 --> 00:39:41.838 TIMOTHÉE CHALAMET: There was that relatability to it. 811 00:39:41.922 --> 00:39:43.465 There was that immediacy to it. 812 00:39:43.548 --> 00:39:45.175 And this was the music 813 00:39:45.258 --> 00:39:49.805 I was hearing that I felt like, "Whoa, he’s speaking to my soul." 814 00:39:49.888 --> 00:39:51.598 I remember having to take pauses from listening to it 815 00:39:51.681 --> 00:39:53.225 ’cause I loved it and it was therapeutic, 816 00:39:53.308 --> 00:39:55.060 and yet at the same time, I don’t know what that... 817 00:39:55.143 --> 00:39:56.895 I’m sure a scientist could speak to it better than I could. 818 00:39:56.978 --> 00:40:00.190 DR. CANDICE NORCOTT: We don’t all have language about emotions, 819 00:40:00.273 --> 00:40:02.317 so to be able to see a piece of art 820 00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:06.363 and have that pull from you an authentic emotion is so powerful. 821 00:40:06.446 --> 00:40:11.118 Music that is emotional or "sad" helps you but also, like, 822 00:40:11.201 --> 00:40:13.245 brings it on even more in some way. 823 00:40:13.328 --> 00:40:15.497 And I think that’s really important. 824 00:40:15.580 --> 00:40:17.040 CUDI: All right, run it. 825 00:40:18.375 --> 00:40:20.585 ♪ I never gave a fuck ♪ 826 00:40:20.669 --> 00:40:24.548 ♪ I never gave a fuck about what niggas thought about me ♪ 827 00:40:24.631 --> 00:40:26.550 ♪ I mean, I did, but, like, fuck it ♪ 828 00:40:26.633 --> 00:40:28.677 ♪ You know what I’m saying? ♪ 829 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.263 NOAH: Hip-hop had done an incredible job 830 00:40:31.346 --> 00:40:33.640 of articulating a lot of things 831 00:40:33.723 --> 00:40:36.101 about the environments that these artists 832 00:40:36.184 --> 00:40:39.896 were coming up in and did a lot less talking about 833 00:40:39.980 --> 00:40:42.566 what was going on inside of those artists’ heads. 834 00:40:42.649 --> 00:40:45.610 Cudi had no reservations 835 00:40:45.694 --> 00:40:50.448 about delving into his most private, dark thoughts. 836 00:40:50.532 --> 00:40:53.368 JOE LA PUMA: You’ll see it in today’s artists. 837 00:40:53.451 --> 00:40:55.537 They don’t talk about Cudi, 838 00:40:55.620 --> 00:40:57.455 "Oh, I love his music. He’s so dope. He dress great." 839 00:40:57.539 --> 00:40:59.207 You know what they say? 840 00:40:59.291 --> 00:41:01.251 Kid Cudi, man, Kid Cudi’s, like, really, like, 841 00:41:01.334 --> 00:41:05.088 one of the main dudes I kind of, like, looked at or listened to all the time. 842 00:41:05.172 --> 00:41:06.131 BOTH: He saved my life. 843 00:41:06.214 --> 00:41:07.591 He saved me from doing, 844 00:41:07.674 --> 00:41:10.969 like, random bad things to myself, kept me, like, focused. 845 00:41:11.052 --> 00:41:13.054 JOE: You hear that numerous times 846 00:41:13.138 --> 00:41:14.931 when people talk about Cudi. 847 00:41:15.015 --> 00:41:16.183 You hear that when 848 00:41:16.266 --> 00:41:17.767 his fans talk about Cudi. 849 00:41:17.851 --> 00:41:19.936 And you also hear it from 850 00:41:20.020 --> 00:41:21.813 some of the biggest people 851 00:41:21.897 --> 00:41:24.524 -in pop culture right now a decade later. -Pop culture. 852 00:41:24.608 --> 00:41:26.818 TRAVIS SCOTT: I feel like he really dialed in on, like, 853 00:41:26.902 --> 00:41:30.113 the youth and really dialed in on, like, um, inspiration, 854 00:41:30.197 --> 00:41:31.656 like, how to inspire you. 855 00:41:31.740 --> 00:41:34.868 Like, his words was, like, very selected on, like, what to do. 856 00:41:34.951 --> 00:41:36.578 I-I feel like he always made the soundtrack 857 00:41:36.661 --> 00:41:37.871 -to, like, my life. -Soundtrack to my life. 858 00:41:37.954 --> 00:41:39.039 Or anybody’s life who was, 859 00:41:39.122 --> 00:41:40.373 like, going through the same thing. 860 00:41:40.457 --> 00:41:43.335 If you’re a big Cudi fan, like, you know exactly what I’m saying. 861 00:41:43.418 --> 00:41:45.545 When I think about albums that have colored my life 862 00:41:45.629 --> 00:41:49.299 or narrated my come-up, this is the biggest one. 863 00:41:49.382 --> 00:41:53.136 This is the biggest one for my maturation from, like, being a little teenager 864 00:41:53.220 --> 00:41:55.222 to, like, stepping into the real world. 865 00:41:55.305 --> 00:41:58.141 He spit his truth in a way that seemed accessible, 866 00:41:58.225 --> 00:41:59.726 -and he was vulnerable. -DOT: Vulnerable. 867 00:41:59.809 --> 00:42:01.937 And was talking about things like, 868 00:42:02.020 --> 00:42:04.981 "Nobody knows, but I’m-I’m feeling a lot." 869 00:42:05.065 --> 00:42:08.109 He gave me, like, a waiver to be open to my emotions, you know? 870 00:42:08.193 --> 00:42:09.778 The album really starts there. 871 00:42:09.861 --> 00:42:11.404 TIMOTHÉE: And isn’t it ironic that 872 00:42:11.488 --> 00:42:15.408 in a genre that is about impenetrability, 873 00:42:15.492 --> 00:42:18.703 bravado in the face of pain, 874 00:42:18.787 --> 00:42:21.790 that the one that would’ve transcended 875 00:42:21.873 --> 00:42:27.212 that confrontation of ego and of, like, competition 876 00:42:27.295 --> 00:42:32.884 would be the one that was the least about how big his chain was 877 00:42:32.968 --> 00:42:36.012 or, you know, how hard his beats slapped 878 00:42:36.096 --> 00:42:39.474 but was the guy that was, like, "Hey, I’m a human, 879 00:42:39.557 --> 00:42:41.601 "and this is what I go through, 880 00:42:41.685 --> 00:42:46.147 and love it or hate it, like, this is my reality." 881 00:42:55.115 --> 00:42:57.993 LIL YACHTY: You know, I went to college, and I had this red hair, 882 00:42:58.076 --> 00:43:02.122 and, man, I’d walk in the cafeteria or when I walked to class, yo, I just... 883 00:43:02.205 --> 00:43:06.543 I saw people looking at me, laughing at me and made jokes. 884 00:43:06.626 --> 00:43:09.337 I mean, I was hurt, I felt it, I could feel the eyes, 885 00:43:09.421 --> 00:43:11.464 but it was this thing I had on my head. 886 00:43:11.548 --> 00:43:13.675 I always used to know, like, I had to embrace myself. 887 00:43:13.758 --> 00:43:15.844 With Cudi-- and I would never say this to his face. 888 00:43:15.927 --> 00:43:17.554 That’d be kind of weird. 889 00:43:17.637 --> 00:43:23.268 But definitely appreciate him for being him so that I could be me. 890 00:43:23.351 --> 00:43:24.853 ’Cause, you know, times get hard, 891 00:43:24.936 --> 00:43:28.064 for anyone at any time, but you just always have to realize 892 00:43:28.148 --> 00:43:33.486 that there’s more to life than that very moment. 893 00:43:33.570 --> 00:43:36.114 That thought can get clouded, 894 00:43:36.197 --> 00:43:38.616 you know, because sometimes it’s just, in the moment, 895 00:43:38.700 --> 00:43:42.704 things get so tough that it’s hard to even imagine 896 00:43:42.787 --> 00:43:45.498 the fact that-that things could be better somewhere else. 897 00:43:45.582 --> 00:43:47.917 I don’t know, it was just something I always had in mind. 898 00:43:48.001 --> 00:43:50.045 I always knew there was more to life than this. 899 00:43:50.128 --> 00:43:54.215 Than this school, than this dorm and these kids. 900 00:43:54.299 --> 00:43:57.927 Just knew there was more, and I knew I was gonna achieve it. 901 00:43:58.011 --> 00:43:59.554 ("Up Up & Away" by Kid Cudi playing) 902 00:43:59.637 --> 00:44:01.431 COMMON: ♪ The end is never the end ♪ 903 00:44:01.514 --> 00:44:03.350 ♪ A new challenge awaits ♪ 904 00:44:03.433 --> 00:44:05.852 ♪ A test no man could be prepared for ♪ 905 00:44:05.935 --> 00:44:08.396 ♪ A new hell he must conquer and destroy ♪ 906 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.566 ♪ A new level of growth he must confront himself ♪ 907 00:44:11.649 --> 00:44:14.069 ♪ The machine and the ghost within ♪ 908 00:44:14.152 --> 00:44:17.572 ♪ This is the journey of the Man on the Moon. ♪ 909 00:44:23.661 --> 00:44:25.663 (song ends) 910 00:44:28.124 --> 00:44:30.543 I never worried about the music part. 911 00:44:30.627 --> 00:44:33.963 The sadness, I only worried about him. 912 00:44:34.047 --> 00:44:37.384 He was a guy that stayed to himself a lot. 913 00:44:37.467 --> 00:44:41.137 In the beginning, it was a hard adjustment for him to make. 914 00:44:44.015 --> 00:44:46.518 There’s the saying, right? "Everywhere you go, there you are." 915 00:44:48.436 --> 00:44:52.148 And when you get more money, you think that things will get better, 916 00:44:52.232 --> 00:44:54.442 things will get easier. 917 00:44:54.526 --> 00:44:57.070 But when you have lots of eyes on you, 918 00:44:57.153 --> 00:44:59.948 it can magnify feelings of negative self-perception, 919 00:45:00.031 --> 00:45:02.242 and that can be particularly vulnerable and hurtful. 920 00:45:05.495 --> 00:45:08.456 There are people who say, you know, "That song saved my life." 921 00:45:08.540 --> 00:45:10.834 And that’s got to feel extremely scary. 922 00:45:10.917 --> 00:45:15.672 I have these people’s lives in my hand, but I’m struggling here, too. 923 00:45:15.755 --> 00:45:17.757 What’s my responsibility? 924 00:45:19.217 --> 00:45:22.303 The pressure in that can be overwhelming. 925 00:45:27.392 --> 00:45:33.273 CUDI: I just really found it hard to be happy. 926 00:45:33.356 --> 00:45:35.275 (audience cheering) 927 00:45:35.358 --> 00:45:37.402 I’m like, "Okay, I’m successful." 928 00:45:37.485 --> 00:45:42.449 Like, I accomplished what I came to New York City to accomplish. 929 00:45:42.532 --> 00:45:45.243 But, um... 930 00:45:45.326 --> 00:45:47.454 I was miserable, man. 931 00:45:47.537 --> 00:45:52.625 I just couldn’t help but feel like Richie Rich or somebody. 932 00:45:52.709 --> 00:45:55.587 Like, you know, I had security with me everywhere I went 933 00:45:55.670 --> 00:45:57.630 and, like, people looking out for me. 934 00:45:58.882 --> 00:46:02.135 There would be some nights where I’d be at the club 935 00:46:02.218 --> 00:46:06.431 and I would just run out the club 936 00:46:06.514 --> 00:46:09.058 and run for blocks. 937 00:46:09.142 --> 00:46:13.271 And I would hop in a yellow cab, trying to get away from my security. 938 00:46:13.354 --> 00:46:15.148 And my security would get in a cab 939 00:46:15.231 --> 00:46:17.984 and follow me all the way home and be right there. 940 00:46:18.067 --> 00:46:20.069 I could never lose his ass. 941 00:46:21.112 --> 00:46:25.325 I just had a hard time dealing with the adjustments 942 00:46:25.408 --> 00:46:28.411 from being this-this guy, 943 00:46:28.495 --> 00:46:32.081 from being Scott, to being Kid Cudi. 944 00:46:43.426 --> 00:46:45.428 ♪ ♪ 945 00:46:55.647 --> 00:46:58.983 It was a little bit of a nightmare for me 946 00:46:59.067 --> 00:47:03.071 because I wasn’t right with myself. 947 00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:11.496 When I would do shows, I didn’t feel anything. 948 00:47:12.914 --> 00:47:18.378 I think I was scared and intimidated by the stage. 949 00:47:20.922 --> 00:47:22.966 Like, if you look at some of my early performances, 950 00:47:23.049 --> 00:47:24.676 I’m not smiling. 951 00:47:26.010 --> 00:47:29.180 I just want to be around good people. 952 00:47:29.264 --> 00:47:31.307 I want to look them in the eyes and see their soul 953 00:47:31.391 --> 00:47:34.978 and know that they’re real people and they’re shooting me straight. 954 00:47:35.061 --> 00:47:37.730 I didn’t get that a lot. 955 00:47:37.814 --> 00:47:39.524 I was just like, "Man, these people might... 956 00:47:39.607 --> 00:47:41.526 "I-I don’t know if they like me for me 957 00:47:41.609 --> 00:47:45.071 or if they like me ’cause of my cosign with Kanye." 958 00:47:45.154 --> 00:47:47.031 Or maybe they just like "Day N Nite" 959 00:47:47.115 --> 00:47:49.075 and they don’t even know about the other music. 960 00:47:49.158 --> 00:47:53.454 Like, I don’t... I didn’t really know what that was, 961 00:47:53.538 --> 00:47:58.042 why people were into me as a artist. 962 00:48:01.546 --> 00:48:04.465 And I was just like, "Well, maybe this isn’t for me." 963 00:48:07.218 --> 00:48:10.430 There was a lot of good moments recording the album. 964 00:48:13.391 --> 00:48:15.977 But after it was done, it was, like... 965 00:48:16.060 --> 00:48:19.606 promoting it, and people would ask me questions, 966 00:48:19.689 --> 00:48:23.985 personal questions that I wasn’t ready to answer. 967 00:48:24.068 --> 00:48:26.362 For some reason-- and this is the truth-- 968 00:48:26.446 --> 00:48:32.118 I never thought that being so honest would, in turn, have people wanting 969 00:48:32.201 --> 00:48:34.829 to ask me so many personal questions. 970 00:48:34.912 --> 00:48:37.290 People would be like, "Oh, you lost your dad at 11 years old. 971 00:48:37.373 --> 00:48:39.459 What was that like?" 972 00:48:39.542 --> 00:48:42.295 These are questions that I’ve never been asked before. 973 00:48:42.378 --> 00:48:44.922 This is, like, stuff that I’ve never even thought about. 974 00:48:45.006 --> 00:48:48.426 When my father died, I camouflaged all my feelings. 975 00:48:48.509 --> 00:48:50.720 I-I tucked that shit away. 976 00:48:50.803 --> 00:48:53.222 I pretended like that shit didn’t even happen. 977 00:48:53.306 --> 00:48:55.725 And I would do interviews with sunglasses on, 978 00:48:55.808 --> 00:48:57.727 and I’d be on cocaine, and I’d just be, like, 979 00:48:57.810 --> 00:49:00.271 sitting there and answering these questions. 980 00:49:00.355 --> 00:49:03.066 Because that’s the only way I could talk about stuff like that. 981 00:49:07.487 --> 00:49:10.156 I would never leave my house. 982 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.784 I wouldn’t go out and do anything. 983 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.916 But when I did cocaine, I could be out in the street. 984 00:49:22.335 --> 00:49:24.462 I’d be the mayor. 985 00:49:24.545 --> 00:49:26.130 I’d be running out in the street. 986 00:49:26.214 --> 00:49:28.132 People were seeing me signing autographs. 987 00:49:28.216 --> 00:49:30.718 I’m taking pictures. I’m like, "Yo, what’s good?" 988 00:49:32.387 --> 00:49:35.807 It gave me confidence to step out the house. 989 00:49:38.726 --> 00:49:39.894 To be normal. 990 00:49:42.855 --> 00:49:44.482 ROBERT: So, what was the approach 991 00:49:44.565 --> 00:49:46.401 of, uh, Man on the Moon II? 992 00:49:50.697 --> 00:49:53.408 (laughs) 993 00:49:53.491 --> 00:49:56.119 Ah, man. 994 00:49:56.202 --> 00:49:57.578 (sucks teeth) 995 00:50:01.040 --> 00:50:02.959 I don’t want to talk about Man on the Moon II. 996 00:50:03.042 --> 00:50:05.294 I don’t really want to get-- D-Do you want to go to Man on the... 997 00:50:05.378 --> 00:50:07.380 -Yeah. -Yeah? 998 00:50:09.632 --> 00:50:12.135 You know, early on, it was fine. 999 00:50:14.011 --> 00:50:17.682 It wasn’t till after, uh, everything became su-successful 1000 00:50:17.765 --> 00:50:20.935 that everything kind of, like, got dark. 1001 00:50:22.019 --> 00:50:23.479 Oh, you mean the ending? 1002 00:50:23.563 --> 00:50:25.898 -Yeah, it’s too... -(electronic tone plays) 1003 00:50:29.068 --> 00:50:31.279 (beat plays briefly) 1004 00:50:32.321 --> 00:50:34.282 Mm... 1005 00:50:34.365 --> 00:50:35.825 I want to put more, like... 1006 00:50:35.908 --> 00:50:37.702 -(makes whooshing sound) -PAT: Right, it needs... 1007 00:50:37.785 --> 00:50:39.537 it needs, like, some more layers and shit. 1008 00:50:39.620 --> 00:50:41.622 CUDI: After Man on the Moon was finished, 1009 00:50:41.706 --> 00:50:45.042 I went right back to the studio. 1010 00:50:45.126 --> 00:50:46.627 EMILE: You know, we were like brothers. 1011 00:50:46.711 --> 00:50:50.423 We were all in the studio constantly, and, like, you know, you have that thing 1012 00:50:50.506 --> 00:50:54.510 of, like, we shared hotel rooms and going and doing his first shows 1013 00:50:54.594 --> 00:50:56.512 for 30 people in Jersey somewhere and... 1014 00:50:56.596 --> 00:50:59.974 You know, we went through all that, and, uh, 1015 00:51:00.057 --> 00:51:03.060 you know, the dynamic shifts naturally. It just has to. 1016 00:51:04.270 --> 00:51:06.189 DOT: He definitely was going through things. 1017 00:51:06.272 --> 00:51:10.151 You could tell that he just wasn’t, like, feeling it. 1018 00:51:10.234 --> 00:51:13.905 I just remember it going from us doing a show, 1019 00:51:13.988 --> 00:51:15.281 doing an after-party. 1020 00:51:15.364 --> 00:51:17.033 (lively chatter) 1021 00:51:17.116 --> 00:51:20.870 Like, usually having a lot going on all the time, 1022 00:51:20.953 --> 00:51:23.873 and then he just completely deaded all that. 1023 00:51:23.956 --> 00:51:26.918 He would have moments like this before the first album. 1024 00:51:27.001 --> 00:51:29.670 You know, like, he would be dealing with something. 1025 00:51:29.754 --> 00:51:32.965 He’ll just lock himself in a room in the house by himself. 1026 00:51:33.049 --> 00:51:36.552 So that whole "lonely stoner" shit is... 1027 00:51:36.636 --> 00:51:38.054 you know, it’s a fact. 1028 00:51:38.137 --> 00:51:42.266 PAT: You know, for me personally, it was like... with Ye... 1029 00:51:42.350 --> 00:51:45.812 just, like, working with Cudi and Ye, I was... 1030 00:51:45.895 --> 00:51:48.397 I... it-it was a lot for me to handle because... 1031 00:51:48.481 --> 00:51:50.858 ’cause I-I feel like... I feel like I could’ve... 1032 00:51:50.942 --> 00:51:53.486 I feel like, um... (sucks teeth) 1033 00:51:53.569 --> 00:51:55.696 like I was... I just feel like I could’ve been there 1034 00:51:55.780 --> 00:51:58.449 for Cudi more, and maybe it would’ve went different. 1035 00:51:58.533 --> 00:52:01.452 -(cameras clicking) -(indistinct chatter) 1036 00:52:01.536 --> 00:52:04.121 EMILE: The train is just moving, like, super fast, 1037 00:52:04.205 --> 00:52:06.374 and he’s, like, traveling the world. 1038 00:52:06.457 --> 00:52:08.876 He’s got all these obligations. 1039 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:10.169 CREW MEMBER: Roll playback! 1040 00:52:10.253 --> 00:52:11.504 EMILE: He’s got superfans. 1041 00:52:11.587 --> 00:52:13.464 He’s got huge tours. It’s all moving. 1042 00:52:13.548 --> 00:52:16.509 You don’t want to stop it, but what do you do? 1043 00:52:16.592 --> 00:52:18.219 He didn’t seem happy at all, 1044 00:52:18.302 --> 00:52:20.012 and he didn’t seem to be looking forward to anything. 1045 00:52:20.096 --> 00:52:25.643 I also think that he just had this idea that he wasn’t gonna live. 1046 00:52:25.726 --> 00:52:28.229 DOT: Besides the mood swings, it was always 1047 00:52:28.312 --> 00:52:31.023 100% in the studio. 1048 00:52:32.108 --> 00:52:34.402 You have to understand, Cudi’s my brother. 1049 00:52:34.485 --> 00:52:37.029 The fact that he was able to hide it from me 1050 00:52:37.113 --> 00:52:38.906 bothers me a lot, 1051 00:52:38.990 --> 00:52:42.493 but he was very good at-at hiding it. 1052 00:52:42.577 --> 00:52:47.081 CUDI: The pressures of having to live up to the hype, 1053 00:52:47.164 --> 00:52:52.086 I didn’t know if I could really embrace what I was becoming. 1054 00:52:52.169 --> 00:52:55.381 (sings indistinctly) 1055 00:52:55.464 --> 00:52:58.718 And I was using cocaine 1056 00:52:58.801 --> 00:53:04.098 to escape from reality. 1057 00:53:04.181 --> 00:53:06.684 PAT (chuckling): I didn’t realize that, like, how deep it was 1058 00:53:06.767 --> 00:53:08.561 of, like, how deep the lyrics were. 1059 00:53:09.645 --> 00:53:11.898 ♪ Want to know what it sound like ♪ 1060 00:53:11.981 --> 00:53:13.608 ♪ When I’m not on drugs? ♪ 1061 00:53:13.691 --> 00:53:17.236 ♪ Please, please don’t play this song... ♪ 1062 00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:18.779 Yeah, that song... I don’t know, man. 1063 00:53:18.863 --> 00:53:20.031 I never liked that song. 1064 00:53:20.114 --> 00:53:21.741 I produced it. We did it together. 1065 00:53:21.824 --> 00:53:25.119 It was too re... it was, like, I was seeing it every day. 1066 00:53:26.579 --> 00:53:27.830 ♪ ♪ 1067 00:53:27.914 --> 00:53:30.082 PAT: Like, you hear the lyrics, you know, 1068 00:53:30.166 --> 00:53:32.835 but it’s not just, like, for this album. 1069 00:53:32.919 --> 00:53:34.754 It’s like... this is his real life. 1070 00:53:47.266 --> 00:53:50.561 CUDI: I had got arrested before the album was finished, 1071 00:53:50.645 --> 00:53:55.900 and, uh, I remember I got out of jail, and I was ashamed 1072 00:53:55.983 --> 00:54:00.738 because I grew up with two uncles that were addicted to crack. 1073 00:54:00.821 --> 00:54:04.283 So the fact that I got into cocaine 1074 00:54:04.367 --> 00:54:07.870 really made me feel like I let them down, 1075 00:54:07.954 --> 00:54:10.498 like I was letting my mom down. 1076 00:54:12.041 --> 00:54:14.669 But I’m glad I got arrested because that’s when I quit. 1077 00:54:16.128 --> 00:54:18.214 I don’t think I would’ve quit if I... 1078 00:54:18.297 --> 00:54:22.885 If-if people didn’t find out about it, I would’ve kept-kept doing it. 1079 00:54:24.220 --> 00:54:25.554 (song changes) 1080 00:54:25.638 --> 00:54:26.931 ♪ ♪ 1081 00:54:27.014 --> 00:54:29.058 People started treating me different 1082 00:54:29.141 --> 00:54:33.980 and looking at me different, and that fucked me up. 1083 00:54:34.063 --> 00:54:38.609 Everybody, I think, like, in the media, they kind of... 1084 00:54:38.693 --> 00:54:42.279 for a long time, they just painted me as this guy who 1085 00:54:42.363 --> 00:54:46.492 has some personal problems and is depressed. 1086 00:54:46.575 --> 00:54:48.452 ♪ No one wants a troubled boy... ♪ 1087 00:54:48.536 --> 00:54:51.288 That really bothered me a lot... 1088 00:54:53.124 --> 00:54:58.087 ...’cause I wasn’t depressed and down all the time. 1089 00:54:59.338 --> 00:55:01.465 And that was the year my daughter was born. 1090 00:55:01.549 --> 00:55:03.134 And I want y’all to meet my daughter. 1091 00:55:03.217 --> 00:55:05.094 She’s the love of my life, and I just want her 1092 00:55:05.177 --> 00:55:07.805 -to see what Daddy does. -(cheering) 1093 00:55:07.888 --> 00:55:11.726 When I was with her, I was the happiest I could ever be. 1094 00:55:11.809 --> 00:55:13.728 But I wasn’t with her all the time. 1095 00:55:15.479 --> 00:55:17.857 It’s just something that comes with it. 1096 00:55:17.940 --> 00:55:20.609 It’s not about what the media is saying. 1097 00:55:20.693 --> 00:55:22.486 It’s about these kids. 1098 00:55:22.570 --> 00:55:25.614 So I just made sure to focus, like, on that, 1099 00:55:25.698 --> 00:55:29.160 the fact that it was helping people, 1100 00:55:29.243 --> 00:55:30.661 and that’s always been my mission. 1101 00:55:30.745 --> 00:55:32.204 It’s just like the line... 1102 00:55:36.417 --> 00:55:39.253 That’s truly what it was, you know? 1103 00:55:39.336 --> 00:55:43.591 I sacrifice the privacy of my life 1104 00:55:43.674 --> 00:55:46.886 and put my story out there to help others. 1105 00:55:46.969 --> 00:55:48.804 ♪ ♪ 1106 00:55:51.307 --> 00:55:53.225 (music stops) 1107 00:55:53.309 --> 00:55:55.436 -Need a break. -ROBERT: Okay. 1108 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:57.146 Thank you. 1109 00:55:57.229 --> 00:55:58.606 ("Soundtrack 2 My Life" by Kid Cudi playing) 1110 00:55:58.689 --> 00:56:01.233 ♪ She copped the toys I would play with in my room by myself ♪ 1111 00:56:01.317 --> 00:56:04.028 ♪ Why he by himself? He got two older brothers... ♪ 1112 00:56:04.111 --> 00:56:07.865 SHIA: I’ve always felt like me and him are just very similar, man. 1113 00:56:07.948 --> 00:56:09.950 Like, he was always-- some kind of kinship, spirit-wise. 1114 00:56:10.034 --> 00:56:12.328 I have really charming memories of him, man. 1115 00:56:12.411 --> 00:56:13.954 He’s like a fucking teddy bear in my heart. 1116 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:17.083 I remember being in Amsterdam with him. 1117 00:56:17.166 --> 00:56:19.251 People running around all through the fucking streets, 1118 00:56:19.335 --> 00:56:20.961 trying to chase him-- no bodyguard. 1119 00:56:21.045 --> 00:56:22.838 And I remember thinking, like, 1120 00:56:22.922 --> 00:56:24.632 "This motherfucker’s a superstar, and he’s just, 1121 00:56:24.715 --> 00:56:26.550 like, hanging out with us, you know?" 1122 00:56:26.634 --> 00:56:28.636 He never lost that... 1123 00:56:30.763 --> 00:56:32.598 You know, he still has that. 1124 00:56:32.681 --> 00:56:34.934 And really, you can only be his friend 1125 00:56:35.017 --> 00:56:38.145 if you are in the midst of creating something with him. 1126 00:56:38.229 --> 00:56:40.940 Not because he’s trying to use you, but because that’s the only time 1127 00:56:41.023 --> 00:56:43.067 when his spirits are up. 1128 00:56:44.860 --> 00:56:47.071 How’d the Shia interview come out? 1129 00:56:47.154 --> 00:56:49.573 I remember sitting with him. (laughing): Oh, my God. 1130 00:56:49.657 --> 00:56:51.200 I remember sitting with him. 1131 00:56:51.283 --> 00:56:53.244 I think he was on tour or something, and he’s like, 1132 00:56:53.327 --> 00:56:56.372 "Hey, man, I want to make this... this fucking cartoon about my childhood." 1133 00:56:56.455 --> 00:56:58.124 I’m like, "Bet. I’m on it." 1134 00:56:58.207 --> 00:57:01.377 So I write this treatment, and I put everything into it. 1135 00:57:01.460 --> 00:57:03.963 ROBERT: He talked about a Adult Swim meeting 1136 00:57:04.046 --> 00:57:06.590 -you went to with him. -(laughing) 1137 00:57:06.674 --> 00:57:08.717 There’s like five people in the room from Adult Swim, 1138 00:57:08.801 --> 00:57:10.761 and they’re all, like, kind of vibing with the treatment. 1139 00:57:10.845 --> 00:57:12.972 And I never really pitched shit in my life ever, 1140 00:57:13.055 --> 00:57:15.141 so I’m thinking, "Ooh, gosh, this is going well." 1141 00:57:15.224 --> 00:57:18.394 (laughing): And he, in the middle of the meeting, 1142 00:57:18.477 --> 00:57:20.271 he just takes the pages out of my hand. 1143 00:57:20.354 --> 00:57:23.732 He goes, "This is bullshit," and he threw the fucking pages out 1144 00:57:23.816 --> 00:57:26.152 in the meeting, and then stormed out of the meeting. 1145 00:57:26.235 --> 00:57:28.821 (laughing): Nah, I didn’t do that. 1146 00:57:28.904 --> 00:57:32.491 I grabbed... I grabbed the script out his hand 1147 00:57:32.575 --> 00:57:36.620 ’cause it was a script that I didn’t read that he wrote on his own. 1148 00:57:36.704 --> 00:57:37.746 It was quite aggressive. 1149 00:57:37.830 --> 00:57:39.415 It was really smooth how I did it 1150 00:57:39.498 --> 00:57:42.251 ’cause he took it out, and then right when he pulled it out, 1151 00:57:42.334 --> 00:57:43.794 I was like, "No, no, no, no." 1152 00:57:43.878 --> 00:57:45.379 And he was pissed. 1153 00:57:45.462 --> 00:57:48.799 He had given me a passport to his life story. 1154 00:57:48.883 --> 00:57:51.427 He had given me access to everything. I’m talking to his mother. 1155 00:57:51.510 --> 00:57:53.137 And I had put it in the pages. 1156 00:57:53.220 --> 00:57:55.139 And there was shit in the pages that he just... 1157 00:57:55.222 --> 00:57:57.099 we had never double-checked with each other, 1158 00:57:57.183 --> 00:57:59.310 and there were certain things he didn’t want to talk about. 1159 00:57:59.393 --> 00:58:04.732 He’s so aware of how he’s being perceived that he wants to shape it 1160 00:58:04.815 --> 00:58:07.067 to such a degree that it doesn’t allow him to be free. 1161 00:58:07.151 --> 00:58:09.528 Which is why we’ve had contention, me and him. 1162 00:58:09.612 --> 00:58:12.448 It’s ’cause I am a digger and I’m curious as fuck, 1163 00:58:12.531 --> 00:58:14.909 and I’ll go there with him and he’ll shut it down. 1164 00:58:14.992 --> 00:58:16.994 I didn’t understand that for years, you know? 1165 00:58:17.077 --> 00:58:19.205 Um, and we got better, and-and then we fell out, 1166 00:58:19.288 --> 00:58:20.873 and we got better and we fell out. 1167 00:58:20.956 --> 00:58:24.460 We both love each other, but we’re both really passionate people. 1168 00:58:24.543 --> 00:58:26.378 That’s why I love him so much, because, like, 1169 00:58:26.462 --> 00:58:28.339 I feel like he understands me 1170 00:58:28.422 --> 00:58:29.882 and I understand him. 1171 00:58:29.965 --> 00:58:31.467 It’s hard to find 1172 00:58:31.550 --> 00:58:33.385 people like that in the industry 1173 00:58:33.469 --> 00:58:37.556 that are, like, trying to create something new, 1174 00:58:37.640 --> 00:58:41.560 but it’s always been an escape for me. 1175 00:58:42.645 --> 00:58:44.647 And it’s freeing. 1176 00:58:47.566 --> 00:58:49.568 ♪ ♪ 1177 00:58:59.536 --> 00:59:01.247 Dennis, my manager, 1178 00:59:01.330 --> 00:59:03.916 bought me a guitar one year, and I was like... 1179 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:07.628 "Why’d you buy me that?" 1180 00:59:07.711 --> 00:59:11.090 He said, "Ah, man, I was just thinking you could get into the guitar." 1181 00:59:11.173 --> 00:59:14.551 I was like, "I don’t play guitar, though." 1182 00:59:14.635 --> 00:59:16.136 (laughing): You know? 1183 00:59:16.220 --> 00:59:17.638 And he just bought me this guitar. 1184 00:59:17.721 --> 00:59:23.310 And then I got the idea to just go ahead and teach myself. 1185 00:59:23.394 --> 00:59:24.937 That was... 1186 00:59:25.020 --> 00:59:27.731 me just... 1187 00:59:27.815 --> 00:59:31.026 trying to feel something. 1188 00:59:31.110 --> 00:59:33.279 I needed to feel something with the music. 1189 00:59:34.363 --> 00:59:38.617 The fact that I was Black, playing the guitar, doing rock music, 1190 00:59:38.701 --> 00:59:41.870 that was, like, weird for people, I think. 1191 00:59:42.955 --> 00:59:44.832 Even if it was a weird thing, 1192 00:59:44.915 --> 00:59:47.209 I still wouldn’t care and I still was just, like, 1193 00:59:47.293 --> 00:59:49.336 adamant about learning this instrument 1194 00:59:49.420 --> 00:59:52.548 and proving to myself that I could do it. 1195 00:59:52.631 --> 00:59:54.633 (plays repeating electric guitar riff) 1196 01:00:06.020 --> 01:00:07.730 -Get any of that? -Hmm? 1197 01:00:07.813 --> 01:00:09.857 -You got it? -Uh, no. 1198 01:00:09.940 --> 01:00:12.067 Uh, let’s-let’s do it again. I wasn’t recording. 1199 01:00:12.151 --> 01:00:14.111 -You recording? -No. 1200 01:00:14.194 --> 01:00:16.488 (laughing): Son of a bitch. 1201 01:00:16.572 --> 01:00:17.906 Son of a bitch. 1202 01:00:17.990 --> 01:00:19.742 I was just getting warm anyway. 1203 01:00:19.825 --> 01:00:22.369 ("Brake" by WZRD playing) 1204 01:00:22.453 --> 01:00:26.040 WZRD, I did that album sober. 1205 01:00:26.123 --> 01:00:27.541 I wasn’t drinking. 1206 01:00:27.624 --> 01:00:29.918 I wasn’t smoking, I don’t think. 1207 01:00:30.002 --> 01:00:33.005 Or was I smoking and I wasn’t drinking? 1208 01:00:33.088 --> 01:00:35.341 I can’t remember. (laughs) 1209 01:00:35.424 --> 01:00:38.719 ♪ Mm, somebody help me ♪ 1210 01:00:38.802 --> 01:00:41.138 ♪ Does anyone care? ♪ 1211 01:00:41.221 --> 01:00:43.182 ♪ Can anyone hear me? ♪ 1212 01:00:43.265 --> 01:00:45.059 ♪ Is anyone there? ♪ 1213 01:00:45.142 --> 01:00:47.519 DENNIS: The motivation from that was 1214 01:00:47.603 --> 01:00:52.775 he definitely wanted to start a band with Dot. 1215 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:56.403 ♪ ♪ 1216 01:00:56.487 --> 01:00:59.490 He may say something different, but I think some of it also 1217 01:00:59.573 --> 01:01:04.828 stemmed from him being, like, over being out on that stage by himself. 1218 01:01:04.912 --> 01:01:07.247 Him wanting to bring somebody else in that fishbowl. 1219 01:01:07.331 --> 01:01:10.417 ("Teleport 2 Me, Jamie" by WZRD playing) 1220 01:01:12.795 --> 01:01:14.797 (indistinct chatter) 1221 01:01:19.843 --> 01:01:21.845 (laughter) 1222 01:01:23.180 --> 01:01:24.932 ♪ I want you, girl ♪ 1223 01:01:25.015 --> 01:01:29.895 ♪ And I need your body right here... ♪ 1224 01:01:29.978 --> 01:01:33.190 CUDI: I was excited about this new sound 1225 01:01:33.273 --> 01:01:35.859 and everything about it. 1226 01:01:35.943 --> 01:01:37.528 I had the perm, and... 1227 01:01:37.611 --> 01:01:38.904 (laughing): Like, I had a new look and... 1228 01:01:38.987 --> 01:01:40.155 Like, you know what I’m saying? 1229 01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:41.490 ♪ Won’t you teleport to me? ♪ 1230 01:01:41.573 --> 01:01:46.662 ♪ Yo, oh, oh... ♪ 1231 01:01:46.745 --> 01:01:49.456 ♪ Right here, won’t you teleport... ♪ 1232 01:01:49.540 --> 01:01:51.083 It was therapeutic. 1233 01:01:51.166 --> 01:01:52.960 -♪ Baby. ♪ -(song ends) 1234 01:01:53.043 --> 01:01:57.256 You know, I was in a really happy place when I made WZRD. 1235 01:01:58.424 --> 01:02:00.342 We’re not coming at you like, "Shut the fuck up 1236 01:02:00.426 --> 01:02:02.177 and, like, listen to our music." 1237 01:02:02.261 --> 01:02:04.304 -You came here for a purpose. -WOMAN: Exactly. 1238 01:02:04.388 --> 01:02:06.140 -You came here to hear our music. -Fuck that... 1239 01:02:06.223 --> 01:02:08.058 So fucking listen to what we’re talking about 1240 01:02:08.142 --> 01:02:10.894 because we’re trying to educate you on what we’re doing. 1241 01:02:10.978 --> 01:02:13.897 -It’s as simple as that. -(applause, cheering) 1242 01:02:13.981 --> 01:02:15.441 You know what I’m saying? 1243 01:02:15.524 --> 01:02:17.651 -No claps! No claps! -(applause stops) 1244 01:02:17.734 --> 01:02:20.028 A lot of people think I’m an asshole and shit. 1245 01:02:20.112 --> 01:02:21.989 Whatever. Think what you want. 1246 01:02:22.072 --> 01:02:23.991 But, like, nigga, I... this is the shit 1247 01:02:24.074 --> 01:02:26.243 that keeps me alive, making these fucking songs, 1248 01:02:26.326 --> 01:02:29.455 so fuck you if you can’t listen while I’m playing ’em. 1249 01:02:31.165 --> 01:02:33.500 That’s how I feel. 1250 01:02:33.584 --> 01:02:35.711 Wholeheartedly. 1251 01:02:35.794 --> 01:02:37.796 (scattered chatter) 1252 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:40.382 No more questions. I want to just get the fuck out of here. 1253 01:02:41.967 --> 01:02:44.136 I wouldn’t want to wish my life on anybody. 1254 01:02:44.219 --> 01:02:48.223 Like, the stuff that I was going through, I wouldn’t want anyone to go through that. 1255 01:02:50.684 --> 01:02:53.437 But I was coming to terms 1256 01:02:53.520 --> 01:02:57.941 with the reality of me being such a... 1257 01:02:59.735 --> 01:03:04.823 ...a dark person and being depressed 1258 01:03:04.907 --> 01:03:07.743 and facing the fact that people 1259 01:03:07.826 --> 01:03:12.581 don’t really want to fuck with someone who doesn’t have their shit together. 1260 01:03:13.916 --> 01:03:18.128 And then, after the second album, that’s when I switched labels. 1261 01:03:19.505 --> 01:03:24.968 And I lost Sylvia Rhone, and that was a big deal for me. 1262 01:03:25.052 --> 01:03:29.097 The person that believed in me and signed me, I lost her. 1263 01:03:30.432 --> 01:03:35.229 My career would have been different if I had Sylvia Rhone. 1264 01:03:36.271 --> 01:03:40.609 ’Cause Sylvia believed in me like nobody else in the industry. 1265 01:03:41.610 --> 01:03:43.904 No matter how weird or how strange the music would be, 1266 01:03:43.987 --> 01:03:47.157 she would be totally all in with what I wanted to do. 1267 01:03:47.241 --> 01:03:50.827 And it’s tough ’cause these labels are cutthroat. 1268 01:03:52.371 --> 01:03:54.540 I know they support me, but it’s still like, 1269 01:03:54.623 --> 01:03:56.625 "Where’s the radio single?" 1270 01:03:58.585 --> 01:04:00.587 And it’s like, "Man, I’m Kid Cudi. 1271 01:04:02.005 --> 01:04:04.341 We don’t think about that." 1272 01:04:06.343 --> 01:04:08.262 SHIA: You know, you wouldn’t have had 1273 01:04:08.345 --> 01:04:12.057 that lean into punk rock from rap without Cudi, like, risking. 1274 01:04:12.140 --> 01:04:14.977 He had to risk himself and get flayed for it 1275 01:04:15.060 --> 01:04:17.854 ’cause what they wanted from him was another Man on the Moon. 1276 01:04:17.938 --> 01:04:21.108 He’s got a bunch of Man on the Moons sitting in a backpack. 1277 01:04:21.191 --> 01:04:23.193 His thing is he hates repeating himself. 1278 01:04:23.277 --> 01:04:26.321 He feels passé or like he’s not pushing it. 1279 01:04:27.322 --> 01:04:32.160 He winds up sabotaging himself from, like, a certain kind of pop success 1280 01:04:32.244 --> 01:04:35.163 because he’s so dissatisfied with the rest of life. 1281 01:04:35.247 --> 01:04:38.458 Out of that dissatisfaction, you wind up with incredible art 1282 01:04:38.542 --> 01:04:41.336 and a really fractured person. 1283 01:04:41.420 --> 01:04:43.297 CUDI: I’ll be having to remind cats, 1284 01:04:43.380 --> 01:04:47.926 like, yo, we exist on a whole nother plane. 1285 01:04:48.010 --> 01:04:50.095 I didn’t get on through radio. 1286 01:04:50.178 --> 01:04:52.139 I got on on the Internet. 1287 01:04:52.222 --> 01:04:57.185 I was working with Kanye West, Jay-Z without radio play. 1288 01:05:02.733 --> 01:05:06.236 I can’t busy myself worrying about the radio. 1289 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:08.238 The fucking radio. 1290 01:05:08.322 --> 01:05:11.408 (beat playing) 1291 01:05:11.491 --> 01:05:14.244 Do I want to have a record on the radio? 1292 01:05:14.328 --> 01:05:16.288 Yeah, but I want it to be organic. 1293 01:05:16.371 --> 01:05:19.833 I want people to play my record because it’s hot, not because 1294 01:05:19.916 --> 01:05:22.085 the label is telling them to play it. 1295 01:05:22.169 --> 01:05:26.590 I don’t really get caught up on sales or anything like that. 1296 01:05:26.673 --> 01:05:29.509 If I did, I would’ve been like, "Aw, it’s over. 1297 01:05:29.593 --> 01:05:33.055 People don’t want to listen to me anymore. I’m done." 1298 01:05:33.138 --> 01:05:35.515 But I was like, "Okay. 1299 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:37.768 "People didn’t respond to that. 1300 01:05:37.851 --> 01:05:39.394 "Cool. 1301 01:05:39.478 --> 01:05:43.815 I’m-a get back to my shit, introduce some new vibes." 1302 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:47.361 (heavy beat playing) 1303 01:05:50.113 --> 01:05:52.115 Let’s go! 1304 01:05:53.742 --> 01:05:56.328 All these songs, like, to perform at the concerts, 1305 01:05:56.411 --> 01:05:58.455 -are gonna be outrageous. -(music stops) 1306 01:05:58.538 --> 01:06:01.541 Outrageous, ’cause, see, the thing, like, with my shows, 1307 01:06:01.625 --> 01:06:03.293 there’s so much of that slow shit 1308 01:06:03.377 --> 01:06:05.170 on the Man on the Moon material, so it’s like, 1309 01:06:05.253 --> 01:06:07.047 we got high ones, we got low ones. 1310 01:06:07.130 --> 01:06:09.549 -Yeah, yeah. -And I never really have done up-tempo records. 1311 01:06:09.633 --> 01:06:11.218 -Right. -So the only time the show get hype 1312 01:06:11.301 --> 01:06:13.053 -is when we do the remix part. -Right, right, right. 1313 01:06:13.136 --> 01:06:14.930 But all these songs, "Immortal," like... 1314 01:06:15.013 --> 01:06:17.182 -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -Niggas gonna be turned up. 1315 01:06:17.265 --> 01:06:19.267 -♪ I’m living my life ♪ -(crowd cheering) 1316 01:06:19.351 --> 01:06:21.978 ♪ As if I got powers ♪ 1317 01:06:22.062 --> 01:06:26.066 ♪ And tonight I feel immortal ♪ 1318 01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:31.988 ♪ I said, tonight I feel immortal ♪ 1319 01:06:32.072 --> 01:06:33.699 ♪ Oh ♪ 1320 01:06:33.782 --> 01:06:37.202 ♪ Tonight I feel immortal ♪ 1321 01:06:37.285 --> 01:06:38.870 ♪ Whoa. ♪ 1322 01:06:38.954 --> 01:06:43.375 We have a job to introduce new flavors and new experiences. 1323 01:06:43.458 --> 01:06:45.919 -Hit it. -(beat plays, crowd cheers) 1324 01:06:46.002 --> 01:06:49.089 I’ve always been about: How can I do that? 1325 01:06:49.172 --> 01:06:50.799 How can I push it? 1326 01:06:50.882 --> 01:06:53.427 -How can I... -Everybody! 1327 01:06:53.510 --> 01:06:55.721 ...give people something that they haven’t heard before? 1328 01:06:55.804 --> 01:06:57.764 ♪ Say, who gonna hold me down now? ♪ 1329 01:06:57.848 --> 01:06:59.683 ♪ I wanna get high, y’all ♪ 1330 01:06:59.766 --> 01:07:02.060 Hey! ♪ Whoa, whoa ♪ 1331 01:07:02.144 --> 01:07:03.937 -♪ I wanna get high, y’all ♪ -♪ Let me know, hey ♪ 1332 01:07:04.020 --> 01:07:06.398 ♪ Need it, need it to get by, y’all ♪ 1333 01:07:06.481 --> 01:07:08.066 ♪ Whoa, I need it ♪ 1334 01:07:08.150 --> 01:07:11.570 -♪ Can you get me high, y’all? ♪ -♪ Hey, oh. ♪ 1335 01:07:11.653 --> 01:07:14.573 (cheering and applause) 1336 01:07:14.656 --> 01:07:18.243 In the moment, people might not understand that, but... 1337 01:07:18.326 --> 01:07:21.538 you have to stay true to your beliefs. 1338 01:07:21.621 --> 01:07:24.541 (chanting): Cudi! Cudi! Cudi! Cudi! Cudi! 1339 01:07:24.624 --> 01:07:26.084 CUDI: I always stay true to Scott. 1340 01:07:26.168 --> 01:07:30.589 And as long as I focus in that way, 1341 01:07:30.672 --> 01:07:32.174 I should be good. 1342 01:07:32.257 --> 01:07:33.967 Look at all these fucking people! 1343 01:07:34.050 --> 01:07:35.719 Y’all feel that energy?! 1344 01:07:35.802 --> 01:07:37.137 (cheering) 1345 01:07:37.220 --> 01:07:39.222 ("Down & Out" playing) 1346 01:07:39.306 --> 01:07:41.183 Let’s take it to the mixtape! 1347 01:07:41.266 --> 01:07:42.893 Hands high! 1348 01:07:42.976 --> 01:07:44.478 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1349 01:07:44.561 --> 01:07:46.980 ♪ Ha-ha-ha-ha ♪ 1350 01:07:47.063 --> 01:07:48.565 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1351 01:07:48.648 --> 01:07:51.526 ♪ Ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha ♪ 1352 01:07:51.610 --> 01:07:54.613 What? When I say, "Kid," y’all say, "Cudi." 1353 01:07:54.696 --> 01:07:57.741 -Kid. Kid. -Cudi! Cudi! 1354 01:07:57.824 --> 01:07:59.910 When I say, "Kid," y’all say, "Cudi." 1355 01:07:59.993 --> 01:08:02.913 -Kid. Kid. -Cudi! Cudi! 1356 01:08:02.996 --> 01:08:05.665 -Nice! -(cheering) 1357 01:08:05.749 --> 01:08:07.292 LIL YACHTY: When I do shit, 1358 01:08:07.375 --> 01:08:10.796 like, I’ll be so fearful of people 1359 01:08:10.879 --> 01:08:13.590 not understanding something, I’ll explain everything. 1360 01:08:14.633 --> 01:08:16.426 He’s kind of opposite. 1361 01:08:16.510 --> 01:08:17.886 He just drops it. 1362 01:08:17.969 --> 01:08:20.013 If you don’t understand it, whatever. 1363 01:08:20.096 --> 01:08:21.848 Which is so cool. 1364 01:08:21.932 --> 01:08:24.267 ("Going to the Ceremony" playing) 1365 01:08:24.351 --> 01:08:26.478 I wish I could be like that. 1366 01:08:27.521 --> 01:08:29.981 -Do you guys feel it? -(cheering) 1367 01:08:30.065 --> 01:08:31.858 CUDI: The moment I start 1368 01:08:31.942 --> 01:08:34.069 sounding like somebody else, that’s when I fail. 1369 01:08:34.152 --> 01:08:36.988 ♪ Drinking again, drinking again... ♪ 1370 01:08:37.072 --> 01:08:38.990 But then there’s also a side of me that’s like, 1371 01:08:39.074 --> 01:08:40.534 "Well, what if they don’t like it 1372 01:08:40.617 --> 01:08:44.871 and the label’s not gonna promote it and people are gonna shit on it?" 1373 01:08:46.540 --> 01:08:50.085 There’s kind of that, but it’s not stopping me 1374 01:08:50.168 --> 01:08:52.170 from executing it. 1375 01:08:52.254 --> 01:08:54.589 It’s like a thought, and then it’s like, "Well, fuck it. 1376 01:08:54.673 --> 01:08:56.466 I’m just gonna do this." 1377 01:08:56.550 --> 01:08:58.260 You know, I’m human. 1378 01:08:58.343 --> 01:09:00.512 (vocalizing) 1379 01:09:04.975 --> 01:09:08.061 -(song ends) -(cheering) 1380 01:09:09.104 --> 01:09:10.939 A$AP ROCKY: The connection is the high. 1381 01:09:12.649 --> 01:09:14.776 And that’s really what everybody’s chasing-- 1382 01:09:14.860 --> 01:09:16.820 that high, you know? 1383 01:09:16.903 --> 01:09:21.324 That’s when you finally feel like a natural part of something. 1384 01:09:21.408 --> 01:09:24.286 It’s like finding your roots. 1385 01:09:24.369 --> 01:09:26.705 Because you could have an opinion, 1386 01:09:26.788 --> 01:09:30.083 a strong opinion on something that says, 1387 01:09:30.166 --> 01:09:32.627 I know that this naturally isn’t supposed to be cool, 1388 01:09:32.711 --> 01:09:34.880 but there’s something really dope about this. 1389 01:09:34.963 --> 01:09:36.882 Man, this is amazing. 1390 01:09:36.965 --> 01:09:38.884 ♪ Can we take the journey... ♪ 1391 01:09:38.967 --> 01:09:41.177 You could make music about nothing all day, 1392 01:09:41.261 --> 01:09:44.556 and people still could play it-- it’s a dope beat. 1393 01:09:44.639 --> 01:09:47.767 You know, you’re saying some shit, repetitive, on the hook, but... 1394 01:09:47.851 --> 01:09:51.062 some people make shit you connect to, and you’re like, "Damn." 1395 01:09:51.146 --> 01:09:53.398 ♪ Where you at? Where you going? ♪ 1396 01:09:53.481 --> 01:09:55.650 ♪ Hey, Mr. Rager ♪ 1397 01:09:55.734 --> 01:09:58.403 ♪ Where the hell you at? Where the fuck you going? ♪ 1398 01:09:58.486 --> 01:10:00.655 ♪ Hey, Mr. Rager ♪ 1399 01:10:00.739 --> 01:10:02.824 ♪ Where you at? Where you going? ♪ 1400 01:10:02.908 --> 01:10:07.537 ♪ Hey, Mr. Rager ♪ 1401 01:10:07.621 --> 01:10:09.497 ♪ Hey ♪ 1402 01:10:09.581 --> 01:10:12.292 ♪ Mm ♪ 1403 01:10:12.375 --> 01:10:13.501 ♪ Yeah. ♪ 1404 01:10:13.585 --> 01:10:15.921 -Thank you! -(cheering) 1405 01:10:19.799 --> 01:10:21.801 ♪ ♪ 1406 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.273 SHIA: His pain is always felt very at the surface. 1407 01:10:38.777 --> 01:10:41.363 He smiles a whole lot, 1408 01:10:41.446 --> 01:10:45.158 but his smile is hiding something. 1409 01:10:49.287 --> 01:10:50.830 I remember coming in one time. 1410 01:10:50.914 --> 01:10:52.666 I think he was making the rock album with Pat. 1411 01:10:52.749 --> 01:10:54.960 And I came in-- it was too far ahead for me. 1412 01:10:55.043 --> 01:10:56.962 I was like, "Nah, man, this ain’t it at all." 1413 01:10:57.045 --> 01:10:58.922 And I said that, and he kicked me out his house, 1414 01:10:59.005 --> 01:11:00.340 and we didn’t talk for a long time. 1415 01:11:00.423 --> 01:11:02.050 Even if-if you’re gonna tell him the truth, 1416 01:11:02.133 --> 01:11:06.429 you got to find a way to deliver it ’cause he’s such a fucking feeler. 1417 01:11:06.513 --> 01:11:09.391 He’s mining his heart every time he makes an album. 1418 01:11:09.474 --> 01:11:11.142 He’s in there digging. 1419 01:11:11.226 --> 01:11:14.479 You know, he’s digging and mining for his truth 1420 01:11:14.562 --> 01:11:17.357 that is also something that he feels like he can present 1421 01:11:17.440 --> 01:11:20.485 in an accessible way and make jams out of. 1422 01:11:21.778 --> 01:11:26.282 Sometimes you make your dopest shit in the darkest place. 1423 01:11:26.366 --> 01:11:31.037 I mean, my favorite Kid Cudi album is fucking, uh, 1424 01:11:31.121 --> 01:11:33.206 Speedin’ Bullet 2 Heaven. 1425 01:11:33.289 --> 01:11:35.208 It’s crazy. 1426 01:11:35.291 --> 01:11:38.461 Man, and "Confused," of course, "Confused." 1427 01:11:38.545 --> 01:11:41.881 It must have been a dark time for bro. 1428 01:11:50.932 --> 01:11:52.934 I don’t know if I want to talk about "Confused" 1429 01:11:53.018 --> 01:11:55.520 ’cause that was, like, a really dark time for me. 1430 01:11:55.603 --> 01:11:58.481 I don’t want to talk about any song from... 1431 01:11:58.565 --> 01:12:00.025 -Speedin’ Bullet. -ROBERT: Speedin’ Bullet? 1432 01:12:00.108 --> 01:12:01.651 -Okay, cool. -Yeah, yeah. 1433 01:12:09.242 --> 01:12:12.370 Speedin’ Bullet 2 Heaven, I was the darkest. 1434 01:12:12.454 --> 01:12:14.998 I was darker than Man on the Moon II. 1435 01:12:15.081 --> 01:12:19.753 I felt like I was living the right way, 1436 01:12:19.836 --> 01:12:22.464 but I still felt empty inside. 1437 01:12:23.757 --> 01:12:27.677 People look up to me, but I’m not a happy person. 1438 01:12:29.137 --> 01:12:32.390 So, a lot of the times, I felt like a fraud, 1439 01:12:32.474 --> 01:12:35.685 and that’s what drove me to... 1440 01:12:35.769 --> 01:12:39.522 the dark side of what I was dealing with. 1441 01:12:39.606 --> 01:12:42.275 SHIA: You know, the cocaine shit scared me deeply. 1442 01:12:42.358 --> 01:12:44.819 When he started doing it, I couldn’t talk to him no more. 1443 01:12:44.903 --> 01:12:46.321 Like, I couldn’t get to him no more. 1444 01:12:46.404 --> 01:12:48.323 He started getting isolated. 1445 01:12:48.406 --> 01:12:50.700 Wouldn’t respond, kind of thing. 1446 01:12:50.784 --> 01:12:52.577 That’s when we, like... 1447 01:12:52.660 --> 01:12:55.038 we lost all contact with each other for a long time. 1448 01:12:55.121 --> 01:12:57.165 Not just me, but a lot of his fr... 1449 01:12:57.248 --> 01:12:59.876 Like, he just... he got very, very isolated. 1450 01:12:59.959 --> 01:13:02.587 And I don’t really know about that chunk of his life. 1451 01:13:02.670 --> 01:13:04.589 I don’t re... We didn’t hang out then. 1452 01:13:06.883 --> 01:13:08.968 CUDI: Passion, Pain, I wrote from a hopeful place. 1453 01:13:09.052 --> 01:13:11.429 Like, "I hope I can feel this way someday," 1454 01:13:11.513 --> 01:13:14.265 and, "This is what I want to feel." 1455 01:13:15.767 --> 01:13:19.604 I feel sorry for every relationship I had, you know? 1456 01:13:19.687 --> 01:13:23.650 I just put girls through such... 1457 01:13:25.944 --> 01:13:31.574 ...drama because I wasn’t happy and I wasn’t where I needed to be. 1458 01:13:32.867 --> 01:13:34.536 That added to my darkness, 1459 01:13:34.619 --> 01:13:39.040 the fact that I couldn’t be in a relationship. 1460 01:13:42.544 --> 01:13:46.756 I had just started using again. 1461 01:13:48.007 --> 01:13:50.093 I’m not happy with myself 1462 01:13:50.176 --> 01:13:54.514 that I allowed myself to go back to that... 1463 01:13:55.723 --> 01:13:57.725 ...after all these years. 1464 01:13:58.935 --> 01:14:01.187 I was just really ashamed. 1465 01:14:02.981 --> 01:14:06.151 I was suicidal, 1466 01:14:06.234 --> 01:14:11.281 and I was at a place where I was trying to plan it. 1467 01:14:13.074 --> 01:14:16.494 And I knew that if I... 1468 01:14:18.246 --> 01:14:23.334 ...didn’t go get help that something would’ve happened. 1469 01:14:26.129 --> 01:14:29.674 I wanted to, deep down... 1470 01:14:29.757 --> 01:14:31.759 I wanted to be better. 1471 01:14:33.845 --> 01:14:36.055 And I didn’t want to give up 1472 01:14:36.139 --> 01:14:38.057 and let people down. 1473 01:14:40.059 --> 01:14:43.021 All would’ve been lost. 1474 01:14:43.104 --> 01:14:46.316 Everything I worked hard for. 1475 01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:49.319 I couldn’t leave my daughter. 1476 01:14:51.196 --> 01:14:53.615 Leave my mom. 1477 01:14:53.698 --> 01:14:55.408 My sister and my brothers. 1478 01:14:59.287 --> 01:15:01.581 I just had to get my shit together. 1479 01:15:01.664 --> 01:15:03.666 ♪ ♪ 1480 01:15:42.413 --> 01:15:44.415 (audience cheering) 1481 01:15:48.461 --> 01:15:51.798 I just want to take this time out to say 1482 01:15:51.881 --> 01:15:54.175 that... 1483 01:15:54.259 --> 01:15:57.804 Kid Cudi is my brother and I hope he’s doing well tonight. 1484 01:15:57.887 --> 01:15:59.889 (cheering) 1485 01:16:04.769 --> 01:16:07.563 The most important artist in the past ten years. 1486 01:16:08.898 --> 01:16:10.608 Most influential. 1487 01:16:12.193 --> 01:16:14.195 And I hope he’s doing well. 1488 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.281 ♪ ♪ 1489 01:16:20.994 --> 01:16:22.912 WILLOW: We’re taught to come from 1490 01:16:22.996 --> 01:16:25.915 a mindset at a very young age of lack. 1491 01:16:25.999 --> 01:16:27.500 Everybody. 1492 01:16:27.583 --> 01:16:32.505 And I feel like that feeling of not thinking that you’re good enough 1493 01:16:32.588 --> 01:16:36.342 or being insecure about your art is-is natural, 1494 01:16:36.426 --> 01:16:39.762 but at the same time, I feel like it’s taught. 1495 01:16:41.264 --> 01:16:44.017 All humans are different, and every single human 1496 01:16:44.100 --> 01:16:47.061 has something so unique and special to offer. 1497 01:16:48.354 --> 01:16:52.525 And people forget that everyone is basically feeling the same way: 1498 01:16:52.608 --> 01:16:55.528 lost, confused, 1499 01:16:55.611 --> 01:16:58.364 not really sure why they’re here. 1500 01:16:58.448 --> 01:17:01.367 That anxiety-- like, everyone is feeling that 1501 01:17:01.451 --> 01:17:03.703 and trying to cover it up in some sort of way. 1502 01:17:05.246 --> 01:17:07.915 We’re gonna come together in our flaws, 1503 01:17:07.999 --> 01:17:13.087 in our insecurities, in our joy, in our happiness, 1504 01:17:13.171 --> 01:17:17.967 and accept it all as beautiful and as natural. 1505 01:17:18.051 --> 01:17:22.722 That’s what’s gonna break down those walls and make everyone be like, 1506 01:17:22.805 --> 01:17:25.725 "Nah, I understand you and your pain and your joy. 1507 01:17:25.808 --> 01:17:27.810 We’re gonna be okay." 1508 01:17:29.896 --> 01:17:31.898 WOMAN: I’m a little nervous, okay? 1509 01:17:34.567 --> 01:17:37.445 Every time I talk about him, I get a little emotional. 1510 01:17:37.528 --> 01:17:39.530 Always been there for me. 1511 01:17:39.614 --> 01:17:41.366 Tough times, sad times. 1512 01:17:41.449 --> 01:17:43.034 Good times. 1513 01:17:43.117 --> 01:17:45.661 His music helps me a lot. 1514 01:17:45.745 --> 01:17:47.997 When you’re feeling alone. 1515 01:17:49.082 --> 01:17:51.000 He means the world to me. 1516 01:17:51.084 --> 01:17:53.544 WOMAN 2: There was always someone who related to me. 1517 01:17:53.628 --> 01:17:54.879 Yeah, I knew that 1518 01:17:54.962 --> 01:17:57.173 somebody out there sort of knew how I felt. 1519 01:17:57.256 --> 01:17:59.509 And that was Cudi to me. 1520 01:18:01.636 --> 01:18:04.180 MAN: To me, he means like a brother to me. 1521 01:18:04.263 --> 01:18:05.765 Somebody I look up to. 1522 01:18:05.848 --> 01:18:11.521 Man on the Moon, that was like the start of my life. 1523 01:18:11.604 --> 01:18:15.149 WOMAN 3: He just... he opened up a new side of me 1524 01:18:15.233 --> 01:18:18.694 to where I could just totally understand that I wasn’t alone. 1525 01:18:19.821 --> 01:18:22.448 WOMAN 4: He’s helped me and motivated me 1526 01:18:22.532 --> 01:18:25.493 through a lot of down times in my life, 1527 01:18:25.576 --> 01:18:28.037 and I feel like he’s helped me as an artist grow 1528 01:18:28.121 --> 01:18:29.580 and be more vulnerable myself 1529 01:18:29.664 --> 01:18:32.708 and letting people around me know that, like, 1530 01:18:32.792 --> 01:18:36.963 it’s okay to feel the way you do and it’s okay to be sad. 1531 01:18:37.046 --> 01:18:39.632 SHIA: You know, I have huge chunks of my 20s, like, 1532 01:18:39.715 --> 01:18:43.136 where I held this, like... this bullshit exterior. 1533 01:18:43.219 --> 01:18:46.139 ’Cause I come from fucking Disney Channel into Spielberg, 1534 01:18:46.222 --> 01:18:48.224 where it was like, "You better smile a lot." 1535 01:18:48.307 --> 01:18:51.352 He had that, and I always identified with that in him-- 1536 01:18:51.436 --> 01:18:54.480 the fact that he smiles as a way of surviving. 1537 01:18:54.564 --> 01:18:59.318 And so I would bump his album nonstop all through that whole chapter of my life 1538 01:18:59.402 --> 01:19:01.487 because we shared sensibilities. 1539 01:19:01.571 --> 01:19:05.032 So he unlocked this certain kind of vulnerability which felt 1540 01:19:05.116 --> 01:19:07.618 more authentic to who I was. 1541 01:19:07.702 --> 01:19:10.705 It’s always been, like... like, that journey, like-- 1542 01:19:10.788 --> 01:19:13.458 he was always meant to be my best friend. Yeah. 1543 01:19:13.541 --> 01:19:15.460 And he may not speak about it the same way, 1544 01:19:15.543 --> 01:19:17.462 but I have no shame in saying that. 1545 01:19:17.545 --> 01:19:19.505 He... the dude has my heart. 1546 01:19:19.589 --> 01:19:22.550 Not just because of his music but because of the fabric of him. 1547 01:19:25.761 --> 01:19:27.763 This dude means so much to me, bro. 1548 01:19:27.847 --> 01:19:29.849 He’s really, like... 1549 01:19:32.059 --> 01:19:33.936 ...integral to my life. 1550 01:19:34.020 --> 01:19:36.481 Not just the music but just as a person, like, 1551 01:19:36.564 --> 01:19:40.443 just a big, big chunk of my... my life. 1552 01:19:40.526 --> 01:19:42.278 (chuckles): God. 1553 01:19:42.361 --> 01:19:44.947 But the music, too. Yeah, the music, too. 1554 01:19:50.077 --> 01:19:52.079 DENNIS: The highest moment... 1555 01:19:56.209 --> 01:19:58.586 ...if I look back... 1556 01:19:59.837 --> 01:20:02.423 ...is probably him going to rehab. 1557 01:20:04.258 --> 01:20:06.886 To know that I could’ve, like, 1558 01:20:06.969 --> 01:20:10.223 lost... lost him, you know what I mean? 1559 01:20:10.306 --> 01:20:12.808 It wasn’t like a... 1560 01:20:12.892 --> 01:20:17.230 a moment of happiness at all, 1561 01:20:17.313 --> 01:20:22.485 but looking back, it was like, man, I’m so glad that... 1562 01:20:24.070 --> 01:20:25.821 ...he went when he did 1563 01:20:25.905 --> 01:20:28.866 and not a... not a minute later. 1564 01:20:32.745 --> 01:20:35.414 CUDI: I wasn’t the best me I could be. 1565 01:20:38.751 --> 01:20:42.922 We sometimes have that in our lives, you know? 1566 01:20:43.005 --> 01:20:45.424 And these are things that I touched on in rehab. 1567 01:20:45.508 --> 01:20:48.386 I talked about could’ve did this way better, 1568 01:20:48.469 --> 01:20:50.221 I could’ve been there, 1569 01:20:50.304 --> 01:20:53.224 or I could’ve understood, I could’ve not been afraid. 1570 01:20:54.475 --> 01:20:57.728 I realize that a lot of what I was dealing with 1571 01:20:57.812 --> 01:21:00.064 was because I was always working. 1572 01:21:01.107 --> 01:21:06.779 And I wasn’t giving myself the time to live my life. 1573 01:21:06.862 --> 01:21:08.447 And I told myself 1574 01:21:08.531 --> 01:21:13.536 that I was going to pace myself with this shit. 1575 01:21:13.619 --> 01:21:16.414 I’m in such a happier place, and I feel 1576 01:21:16.497 --> 01:21:19.625 like I can talk about certain things, 1577 01:21:19.709 --> 01:21:22.670 and I’ve come to terms with my bullshit. 1578 01:21:22.753 --> 01:21:24.589 I faced my bullshit. 1579 01:21:26.299 --> 01:21:28.884 I know where I went wrong. 1580 01:21:28.968 --> 01:21:30.970 There’s no confusion about it. 1581 01:21:32.263 --> 01:21:34.348 So now I can talk about it. 1582 01:21:36.142 --> 01:21:39.729 And knowing that I’m at a better place with me, 1583 01:21:39.812 --> 01:21:43.190 with Scott, that I love myself, that I’m happy. 1584 01:21:45.192 --> 01:21:48.029 I just hope the fans 1585 01:21:48.112 --> 01:21:51.824 can see that, like, I finally 1586 01:21:51.907 --> 01:21:54.785 am at a better place. 1587 01:21:54.869 --> 01:21:56.871 ♪ ♪ 1588 01:22:07.340 --> 01:22:09.258 KANYE: ♪ Beautiful mornin’ ♪ 1589 01:22:09.342 --> 01:22:12.470 ♪ You’re the sun in my mornin’, babe ♪ 1590 01:22:12.553 --> 01:22:14.597 ♪ Nothing unwanted ♪ 1591 01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:16.432 Okay, L.A. 1592 01:22:17.558 --> 01:22:20.144 Now, Kid Cudi is in rehab right now, 1593 01:22:20.227 --> 01:22:22.813 but he’s got a number one song on the radio. 1594 01:22:22.897 --> 01:22:24.774 (cheering) 1595 01:22:24.857 --> 01:22:27.693 And I want us to sing it tonight, 1596 01:22:27.777 --> 01:22:32.323 loud enough for... for him to hear it and feel it and know we love him. 1597 01:22:33.407 --> 01:22:35.076 Y’all ready? 1598 01:22:38.579 --> 01:22:40.665 ♪ Beautiful mornin’ ♪ 1599 01:22:40.748 --> 01:22:43.501 AUDIENCE: ♪ You’re the sun in my mornin’, babe ♪ 1600 01:22:43.584 --> 01:22:45.544 ♪ Nothing unwanted... ♪ 1601 01:22:48.506 --> 01:22:50.466 DR. NORCOTT: Feeling lost is okay. 1602 01:22:50.549 --> 01:22:52.551 Everybody should feel lost. 1603 01:22:52.635 --> 01:22:55.846 No one has our purpose figured out. 1604 01:22:55.930 --> 01:23:01.727 And you can use the time of feeling lost and reframe it to say you’re exploring. 1605 01:23:01.811 --> 01:23:04.980 A lot of healing is about changing your perception, 1606 01:23:05.064 --> 01:23:07.358 and a lot of the work towards recovery is about 1607 01:23:07.441 --> 01:23:09.735 changing your perception of what you’re experiencing 1608 01:23:09.819 --> 01:23:13.864 and knowing that you can feel lost with other people. 1609 01:23:13.948 --> 01:23:15.366 So... 1610 01:23:20.579 --> 01:23:23.124 CUDI: I had just got out of rehab, 1611 01:23:23.207 --> 01:23:27.211 and I knew there was a lot of excitement about me coming home. 1612 01:23:29.088 --> 01:23:31.340 I was just really nervous. 1613 01:23:31.424 --> 01:23:32.842 And hoped to God 1614 01:23:32.925 --> 01:23:35.594 the kids still want to hear me. 1615 01:23:35.678 --> 01:23:38.681 Los Angeles, make some motherfucking noise. 1616 01:23:38.764 --> 01:23:40.766 (cheering) 1617 01:23:42.768 --> 01:23:45.229 Yo, right now I’m fucking fanning out. 1618 01:23:45.312 --> 01:23:46.897 I’m fucking fanning out. 1619 01:23:46.981 --> 01:23:49.316 This is, like, my favorite artist of all time. 1620 01:23:49.400 --> 01:23:51.777 (cheering) 1621 01:23:51.861 --> 01:23:53.904 I don’t know how many motherfuckers out here 1622 01:23:53.988 --> 01:23:57.074 feel the same, but I grew up on this motherfucker right here. 1623 01:23:57.158 --> 01:24:00.745 So make some motherfucking noise for Kid Cudi! 1624 01:24:00.828 --> 01:24:02.872 -("Pursuit of Happiness" playing) -(cheering) 1625 01:24:02.955 --> 01:24:06.459 CUDI: I love you, motherfuckers! 1626 01:24:06.542 --> 01:24:07.877 The fans-- 1627 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:09.587 seeing the love, the excitement. 1628 01:24:09.670 --> 01:24:11.505 People were just so excited that I was home 1629 01:24:11.589 --> 01:24:13.758 and that I had made it. 1630 01:24:13.841 --> 01:24:15.259 Now, listen. 1631 01:24:15.342 --> 01:24:18.053 I missed every single one of you. 1632 01:24:18.137 --> 01:24:21.265 I love every single one of you. 1633 01:24:21.348 --> 01:24:25.770 I know life is crazy and shit, and shit comes our way, 1634 01:24:25.853 --> 01:24:27.521 but we can get through this shit. 1635 01:24:27.605 --> 01:24:29.440 We can make it through. 1636 01:24:29.523 --> 01:24:33.194 I am living proof. I am living proof. 1637 01:24:35.112 --> 01:24:38.741 And I don’t mean to preach, I don’t mean to preach... 1638 01:24:40.743 --> 01:24:43.996 ...but I just need you to know, I need you to know one thing. 1639 01:24:45.581 --> 01:24:46.957 Listen. 1640 01:24:47.041 --> 01:24:50.711 ♪ I’m on the pursuit of happiness, and I know ♪ 1641 01:24:50.795 --> 01:24:56.133 ♪ Everything that shine ain’t always gonna be gold, hey ♪ 1642 01:24:56.217 --> 01:25:00.387 ♪ I’ll be fine once I get it, yeah, what? ♪ 1643 01:25:00.471 --> 01:25:03.557 ♪ I’ll be good. ♪ 1644 01:25:05.893 --> 01:25:08.354 It brought me back a little bit... 1645 01:25:09.772 --> 01:25:11.315 ...into the light. 1646 01:25:11.398 --> 01:25:14.735 It was, like, it helped during that time. 1647 01:25:14.819 --> 01:25:16.362 ♪ ♪ 1648 01:25:16.445 --> 01:25:18.614 PAT: But when he came out of rehab, we just would cook. 1649 01:25:18.697 --> 01:25:21.242 Like, just go in the studio and work on music. 1650 01:25:21.325 --> 01:25:24.161 And that led into Kids See Ghosts. 1651 01:25:24.245 --> 01:25:27.873 And whether he was making beats with me or whether it was just him and Dot, 1652 01:25:27.957 --> 01:25:30.668 he just kept making and creating. 1653 01:25:30.751 --> 01:25:32.920 I don’t know if I would’ve dropped an album anytime soon. 1654 01:25:33.003 --> 01:25:36.632 I think I would’ve taken a couple years off. 1655 01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:40.928 But then Kanye, uh, 1656 01:25:41.011 --> 01:25:43.889 told me that he wanted to do this album, 1657 01:25:43.973 --> 01:25:46.225 and... 1658 01:25:46.308 --> 01:25:50.145 I was like, "Well, shit, this is cool, because... 1659 01:25:50.229 --> 01:25:54.191 now I have somebody lifting me up." 1660 01:25:54.275 --> 01:25:56.193 You know? 1661 01:25:56.277 --> 01:26:00.072 Letting me know that I can do this shit. 1662 01:26:00.155 --> 01:26:03.284 ("Reborn" by Kids See Ghosts playing) 1663 01:26:03.367 --> 01:26:05.286 So Kanye doesn’t know that, but he saved me. 1664 01:26:05.369 --> 01:26:09.832 He saved me from being depressed 1665 01:26:09.915 --> 01:26:15.087 all over again about where I was at with the music, and... 1666 01:26:15.170 --> 01:26:19.425 he helped me see that, like, no, no, I’m not done yet. 1667 01:26:22.428 --> 01:26:25.264 ♪ I’m so, I’m so reborn ♪ 1668 01:26:25.347 --> 01:26:27.433 ♪ I’m movin’ forward ♪ 1669 01:26:32.062 --> 01:26:35.274 ♪ Ain’t no stress on me, Lord ♪ 1670 01:26:35.357 --> 01:26:37.568 ♪ I’m movin’ forward ♪ 1671 01:26:37.651 --> 01:26:41.488 ♪ Keep movin’ forward, keep movin’ forward... ♪ 1672 01:26:41.572 --> 01:26:44.617 I just have no desire to make any more dark records. 1673 01:26:44.700 --> 01:26:46.452 ♪ I’m movin’ forward... ♪ 1674 01:26:46.535 --> 01:26:49.163 I don’t want to put more of that out into the world. 1675 01:26:49.246 --> 01:26:53.542 I hope people... got it when I put it out, 1676 01:26:53.626 --> 01:26:57.546 when I did it, but that chapter is done. 1677 01:26:57.630 --> 01:27:01.550 ♪ Keep movin’ forward, keep movin’ forward. ♪ 1678 01:27:01.634 --> 01:27:03.636 (cheering) 1679 01:27:07.431 --> 01:27:10.309 I recognized early on that 1680 01:27:10.392 --> 01:27:15.064 to be able to do music was such a special thing, 1681 01:27:15.147 --> 01:27:18.484 and it was a gift from God. 1682 01:27:18.567 --> 01:27:21.570 I knew that I had to use this gift, 1683 01:27:21.654 --> 01:27:25.991 this power that I had, for good. 1684 01:27:26.075 --> 01:27:27.993 So, listen, I just want to say, 1685 01:27:28.077 --> 01:27:29.870 before I go into this next jam, 1686 01:27:29.954 --> 01:27:31.872 I really appreciate each and every one of you 1687 01:27:31.956 --> 01:27:35.918 from the front to the motherfucking back that came here to see me rock right now. 1688 01:27:36.001 --> 01:27:38.379 Life is crazy, man. We all figuring this shit out. 1689 01:27:38.462 --> 01:27:39.546 It’s fucked-up, but we’ll survive. 1690 01:27:39.630 --> 01:27:40.965 We’re all survivors. 1691 01:27:41.048 --> 01:27:43.759 I like to think Kid Cudi fans are fucking survivors. 1692 01:27:43.842 --> 01:27:45.511 (cheering) 1693 01:27:45.594 --> 01:27:47.346 It’s been a long ride 1694 01:27:47.429 --> 01:27:49.807 since my mixtape, and you guys have been so supportive 1695 01:27:49.890 --> 01:27:51.475 in dealing with me all these years. 1696 01:27:51.558 --> 01:27:53.018 -MAN: I love you, Scott! -MAN 2: We love you! 1697 01:27:53.102 --> 01:27:56.480 And to come to the show tonight, to see all the beautiful faces 1698 01:27:56.563 --> 01:27:58.607 in the building, all the love, is just... 1699 01:27:58.691 --> 01:28:01.610 it’s still overwhelming to me, after all these years. 1700 01:28:01.694 --> 01:28:03.904 I just really want to let you guys know, you know, 1701 01:28:03.988 --> 01:28:05.781 when I was going through my shit, I really appreciated 1702 01:28:05.864 --> 01:28:07.408 that you guys never turned your back on me, 1703 01:28:07.491 --> 01:28:10.327 you never judged me, you never left me hanging, 1704 01:28:10.411 --> 01:28:13.831 and I could come out here and see all this love... 1705 01:28:13.914 --> 01:28:16.250 (crowd cheering) 1706 01:28:16.333 --> 01:28:19.753 ...from albums I dropped a year ago or two years ago or three years ago. 1707 01:28:19.837 --> 01:28:22.047 I mean, the shit is insane. 1708 01:28:22.131 --> 01:28:25.426 I know I’m helping you guys, but guess what-- 1709 01:28:25.509 --> 01:28:28.137 you guys are helping me more than you know. 1710 01:28:28.220 --> 01:28:29.972 This shit is like group therapy. 1711 01:28:30.055 --> 01:28:31.724 It’s amazing. 1712 01:28:31.807 --> 01:28:33.058 (cheering) 1713 01:28:33.142 --> 01:28:35.728 I knew that that was my mission. 1714 01:28:35.811 --> 01:28:39.064 I knew that that’s why I was born. 1715 01:28:40.315 --> 01:28:42.526 It’s my destiny. 1716 01:28:43.694 --> 01:28:46.947 Everything I make has to help people in some way. 1717 01:28:48.323 --> 01:28:50.451 Like, it has to. 1718 01:28:50.534 --> 01:28:53.662 I can’t make music any other way. 1719 01:28:53.746 --> 01:28:55.664 And that’s always been the goal-- 1720 01:28:55.748 --> 01:28:58.834 like, to inspire others... 1721 01:28:59.960 --> 01:29:02.546 ...so they can tell their story. 1722 01:29:02.629 --> 01:29:05.007 I felt like the rap game needed more of that. 1723 01:29:05.090 --> 01:29:06.633 Now it’s like... 1724 01:29:06.717 --> 01:29:08.385 you can’t get a deal 1725 01:29:08.469 --> 01:29:11.388 unless you sing and talk about your emotions. 1726 01:29:11.472 --> 01:29:16.310 And we single-handedly infected the industry with that shit 1727 01:29:16.393 --> 01:29:18.062 in 2009. 1728 01:29:18.145 --> 01:29:23.734 It sent a ripple effect through the whole entire industry for a decade. 1729 01:29:25.027 --> 01:29:27.362 So... 1730 01:29:27.446 --> 01:29:29.323 you’re welcome. 1731 01:29:29.406 --> 01:29:31.408 (laughing) 1732 01:29:34.286 --> 01:29:35.704 ("Freeee (Ghost Town, Pt. 2)" by Kids See Ghosts playing) 1733 01:29:35.788 --> 01:29:38.373 ♪ I don’t feel pain anymore ♪ 1734 01:29:38.457 --> 01:29:39.958 ♪ Guess what, babe ♪ 1735 01:29:40.042 --> 01:29:43.962 ♪ I am free ♪ 1736 01:29:45.881 --> 01:29:48.092 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1737 01:29:48.175 --> 01:29:51.053 ♪ Nothin’ hurts me anymore ♪ 1738 01:29:51.136 --> 01:29:52.805 ♪ Guess what, babe ♪ 1739 01:29:52.888 --> 01:29:56.433 ♪ I am free... ♪ 1740 01:29:58.268 --> 01:29:59.978 (song fades) 1741 01:30:00.062 --> 01:30:03.607 So, the ten-year anniversary of my first album. 1742 01:30:03.690 --> 01:30:05.109 (cheering) 1743 01:30:05.192 --> 01:30:08.862 It’s a beautiful journey we’ve all been on this whole time, huh? 1744 01:30:08.946 --> 01:30:11.365 (cheering) 1745 01:30:11.448 --> 01:30:12.950 I love y’all motherfuckers, too. 1746 01:30:13.033 --> 01:30:14.576 Let me see this tattoo right here. 1747 01:30:14.660 --> 01:30:16.954 MAN: Mr. Rager! I got it! I got a tattoo! 1748 01:30:17.037 --> 01:30:18.539 I fucking love you, Cudi! 1749 01:30:18.622 --> 01:30:20.874 -CUDI: Oh, fucking fire. -You saved my life, Cudi! 1750 01:30:20.958 --> 01:30:23.168 Can you sign my arm? Please, please! 1751 01:30:23.252 --> 01:30:25.295 -All right, I’ll sign your arm. -Please sign my arm. 1752 01:30:25.379 --> 01:30:26.588 (crowd exclaiming) 1753 01:30:26.672 --> 01:30:30.092 MAN: Oh, my God! Oh, my God! 1754 01:30:30.175 --> 01:30:31.969 Oh, fuck! 1755 01:30:33.929 --> 01:30:35.681 There you go. What’s your name? 1756 01:30:35.764 --> 01:30:37.432 You saved my life. My name’s Jacob. 1757 01:30:37.516 --> 01:30:38.684 I fucking love you. 1758 01:30:38.767 --> 01:30:40.227 (laughs) I love you, too, Jacob. 1759 01:30:40.310 --> 01:30:42.604 Make some noise for Jacob, y’all. Yeah! 1760 01:30:42.688 --> 01:30:44.439 (cheering) 1761 01:30:44.523 --> 01:30:46.733 So, look, Jacob. 1762 01:30:46.817 --> 01:30:48.861 This next song is for you, all right? 1763 01:30:48.944 --> 01:30:51.446 I’m gonna... I’m gonna be checking 1764 01:30:51.530 --> 01:30:54.408 and making sure you’re raging your fucking face off. 1765 01:30:54.491 --> 01:30:56.451 All right, you ready for this next one? 1766 01:30:57.536 --> 01:30:59.663 -Let’s do it. -("Pursuit of Happiness" playing) 1767 01:30:59.746 --> 01:31:02.791 -(cheering) -(Jacob shouting) 1768 01:31:02.875 --> 01:31:04.042 I fucking love you! 1769 01:31:04.126 --> 01:31:06.044 You ready? You gonna sing it with me? 1770 01:31:06.128 --> 01:31:07.754 Yeah. 1771 01:31:11.758 --> 01:31:13.343 Yeah. 1772 01:31:13.427 --> 01:31:16.805 ♪ Crush a bit, little bit, roll it up, take a hit ♪ 1773 01:31:16.889 --> 01:31:21.101 ♪ Feeling lit, feeling right, 2:00 a.m., summer night ♪ 1774 01:31:21.185 --> 01:31:22.686 ♪ I don’t care, hand on the wheel ♪ 1775 01:31:22.769 --> 01:31:24.188 ♪ Driving drunk, I’m doing my thing ♪ 1776 01:31:24.271 --> 01:31:26.315 ♪ Rolling the Midwest side and out ♪ 1777 01:31:26.398 --> 01:31:28.275 ♪ Living my life, getting out dreams ♪ 1778 01:31:28.358 --> 01:31:30.068 ♪ I’m-a do just what I want ♪ 1779 01:31:30.152 --> 01:31:31.820 ♪ Looking ahead, no turning back ♪ 1780 01:31:31.904 --> 01:31:34.656 ♪ People told me slow my roll, I’m screaming out ♪ 1781 01:31:34.740 --> 01:31:37.576 ♪ "Fuck that," I’m screaming out, "Fuck that" ♪ 1782 01:31:37.659 --> 01:31:40.329 ♪ I’m screaming out, "Fuck that, fuck that ♪ 1783 01:31:40.412 --> 01:31:43.081 -♪ Fuck that, fuck that, fuck that" ♪ -♪ Yeah ♪ 1784 01:31:43.165 --> 01:31:46.376 ♪ ♪ 1785 01:31:48.962 --> 01:31:50.839 (cheering) 1786 01:31:53.967 --> 01:31:56.261 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1787 01:31:57.888 --> 01:31:59.723 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1788 01:32:01.516 --> 01:32:03.310 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1789 01:32:03.393 --> 01:32:05.854 ♪ What? What? What? ♪ 1790 01:32:05.938 --> 01:32:09.942 ♪ What? What? What? What? ♪ 1791 01:32:10.025 --> 01:32:11.693 Yeah, Jacob, yeah! 1792 01:32:13.153 --> 01:32:16.657 ♪ Tell me what you know about dreaming, dreaming ♪ 1793 01:32:16.740 --> 01:32:20.619 ♪ You don’t really know about nothin’, nothin’ ♪ 1794 01:32:20.702 --> 01:32:24.081 ♪ Tell me what you know about them night terrors every night ♪ 1795 01:32:24.164 --> 01:32:28.335 ♪ 5:00 a.m. cold sweats, waking up to the sky ♪ 1796 01:32:31.421 --> 01:32:32.422 ♪ Hey ♪ 1797 01:32:35.717 --> 01:32:36.718 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1798 01:32:38.845 --> 01:32:39.846 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1799 01:32:43.308 --> 01:32:47.271 ♪ I’m on the pursuit of happiness, and I know ♪ 1800 01:32:47.354 --> 01:32:51.858 ♪ Everything that shine ain’t always gonna be gold, hey ♪ 1801 01:32:51.942 --> 01:32:55.195 ♪ I’ll be fine once I get it ♪ 1802 01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:58.198 ♪ I’ll be good ♪ 1803 01:32:58.282 --> 01:33:01.868 ♪ I’m on the pursuit of happiness, and I know ♪ 1804 01:33:01.952 --> 01:33:06.665 ♪ Everything that shine ain’t always gonna be gold, hey ♪ 1805 01:33:06.748 --> 01:33:09.167 ♪ I’ll be fine once I get it ♪ 1806 01:33:09.251 --> 01:33:12.462 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah... ♪ 1807 01:33:12.546 --> 01:33:14.965 ComplexCon! Yes! 1808 01:33:15.048 --> 01:33:17.384 Yes! 1809 01:33:17.467 --> 01:33:20.971 What the fuck?! Make some noise! 1810 01:33:24.850 --> 01:33:27.394 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 1811 01:33:31.565 --> 01:33:32.858 Yeah! 1812 01:33:32.941 --> 01:33:34.318 ♪ ♪ 1813 01:33:34.401 --> 01:33:35.819 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1814 01:33:38.405 --> 01:33:39.573 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1815 01:33:42.743 --> 01:33:44.202 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1816 01:33:45.120 --> 01:33:47.122 Yeah! 1817 01:33:47.205 --> 01:33:48.874 I love you motherfuckers. Yes! 1818 01:33:49.833 --> 01:33:51.335 I love you! Get home safe! 1819 01:33:52.502 --> 01:33:54.171 Jacob, I love you. 1820 01:33:54.254 --> 01:33:55.797 Get home safe. 1821 01:33:58.425 --> 01:34:01.261 (echoing): Yes. Yes. 1822 01:34:01.345 --> 01:34:03.263 -Peace. -(song ends) 1823 01:34:03.347 --> 01:34:05.682 (cheering)