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‐ Take my phone?
‐ Sure.
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‐ Roddy.
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Official YIFY movies site:
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Yeah, I'm doing great.
How are you?
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We're just getting ready
to do an interview about you.
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A little warm down there, huh?
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You what?
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Yeah, not anytime soon,
though.
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You're holding a place for me.
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Right next to you
at the table, huh?
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Great.
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No, I...no, I'm just gonna
talk about you,
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all good things,
not to worry about it.
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Great.
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Thanks, Roddy.
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Roddy's in heaven.
Roddy's not in hell.
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♪ ♪
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‐ We'll check you
down there, guys.
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We'll check you down there.
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♪ ♪
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‐ Rowdy Ronda Rousey!
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‐ Coming to the WWE,
I really wanted to make sure
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that every single time
that I walked out there,
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everyone remembered
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
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Rowdy is the only name
I could have taken on.
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I wanted to make sure that
that next generation of kids
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knew who he was
and respected his memory
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and what he's contributed
to the business.
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‐ When I ran into Piper,
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he's the one that made
everything else possible.
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He was the key,
the cog in the wheel.
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Without Piper,
we could have never launched
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into the stratosphere.
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‐ It's as simple as this.
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When RP talks, brother,
people listen.
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‐ He was the ultimate bad guy.
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‐ How you doing, fatso?
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‐ He sold it. He practiced it.
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He was good at what he did.
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♪ ♪
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‐ Just when they think
they got the answers,
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I change the questions.
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‐ Even if you had never heard
of Roddy Piper,
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you could tell
you didn't like this guy.
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‐ Nobody messes with Piper!
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‐ He was riveting.
‐ I seen a lot of men buried...
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‐ A really good‐hearted guy,
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a really tough
son of a bitch.
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‐ He was not like
any other wrestler.
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He was in his own world,
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real strong family man.
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‐ He kept his family
completely out of the business,
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and I think he took
too much of it on himself.
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‐ Yeah!
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‐ Everything he did
from the moment
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he walked out in the ring
rubbed people wrong.
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‐ You're gonna
see something
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you never seen
in your life before.
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‐ Whatever it was,
he went against the grain,
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and he just lived
in that glory.
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♪ ♪
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[droning bagpipe music]
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♪ ♪
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‐ You know, God takes care
of fools and babies.
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Before I was a pro wrestler,
I got hit by a pickup truck.
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I was lived
in an Indian reservation.
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I had tonsillitis,
so they took out my appendix.
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I moved a lot.
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I got hurt a lot
as a little kid.
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‐ My dad, Roddy Piper,
he was born in Canada
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in a place called
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,
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which is one of the coldest
places in the world.
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He used to tell me, you know,
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the story of running uphill
both ways to school,
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right, in the snow?
He actually did that.
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His dad was a police officer
that worked for the railroad,
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and this meant
that they traveled 24/7.
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They would spend a week in
one town, a week in the next.
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I think he was
about 10 years old.
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He was on a Indian reservation
for about six months,
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and he's the only
white kid on it.
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Everybody else is Indian,
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and they don't like
white people at the time,
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so he had to learn how
to fight his way through
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and get their respect.
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So every few months,
no matter where he was going,
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he would have to start over,
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build his reputation,
and be the tough guy
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so he wouldn't get hurt.
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He would go out and get
in trouble and come home
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and face all kinds
of physical punishment.
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[somber music]
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‐ It was a hard
Victorian upbringing,
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very strict.
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Being the youngest,
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he always kind of felt like
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he was an afterthought
in his family
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is what he would tell me.
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Like, he wasn't expected.
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Not a lot of hugs.
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Not a lot of verbal
"I love yous."
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‐ My grandpa did beat my dad.
I don't know how often,
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but he was physical enough
with him
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that it was a dark place
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that my dad never really wanted
to talk about with us.
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‐ You're 12, 11, 10 years old.
You move 10 times.
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All of a sudden,
you get into a fight,
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and you come back home
and you get into a fight
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because you got into a fight.
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You know, it's...
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♪ ♪
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I don't think that punishment,
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physical punishment,
is a way to raise a kid.
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None of it goes on
in my house ever.
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‐ There was a lot of trauma
in his childhood,
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and it followed him.
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He seemed like
the kind of person
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that always had a demon
or something on his shoulder
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and that he was fighting with
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and I think that that started
at a very, very young age
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long before wrestling.
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[bagpipe music]
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‐ I got into my bagpipes
a lot,
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and it kind of pulled me away
from everybody.
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I don't know how,
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but that's where I started,
when I was six years old
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playing the bagpipes.
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It was a place for me to go.
It was loud.
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People knew,
don't interrupt.
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It actually became
a hideaway for me.
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♪ ♪
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‐ One day I was in my house,
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and there was a knock
at my back door.
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And there was two friends
of mine with this new guy, Rod.
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And so they said to me,
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"Cam, you're a pretty
tough guy,
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"and this new guy, Rod,
he's a pretty tough guy.
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Why don't you have a fight?"
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I said, "Sure."
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And we went at it.
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Like in the movies,
he drilled me a good one
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and I flew overtop
of my motorcycle.
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And he won the fight.
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As I found out later,
Rod told me he was
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the light heavyweight boxing
champ of Toronto.
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And from that point on,
we became best friends.
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He was a high school wrestler,
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and he was number two
in the city.
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That was his goal
was to be a wrestler.
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‐ And the day he did
graduate school,
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he finally did leave home.
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He would have liked a better
relationship with his father.
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You know, that was
eating him up.
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As Rod became a young adult,
it just became too much
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'cause Rod wanted
to get rough back,
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but the only other choice would
be to have an all‐out brawl
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with your father.
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♪ ♪
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He left home
and was out on his own.
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‐ It was just time to go,
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so I took my bagpipes
and I just never went back.
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‐ He was really a nomad.
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He went to youth hostels,
YMCAs, anywhere.
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Usually back then,
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five bucks for the night
and you could do it.
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Or you'd get there
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so you would be
on the street that night.
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‐ I had to make money,
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and so played my bagpipes
and I'd get quarters
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or whatever they give me.
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You sleep during the day.
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It's too dangerous
to sleep at nighttime.
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At nighttime, you get cold,
you get hungry,
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and so you start
to try to feed
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some of these necessities.
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I started stealing
what I needed
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and then got
with a group of bad guys.
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And all of a sudden,
you're carrying a switchblade,
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and‐‐you know,
and then the fights.
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Now I was getting off
on this bully type of thing,
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which I hated.
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‐ He was beaten up.
He was made fun of.
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Half of those beatings
were because
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somebody was trying
to sexually abuse him,
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and you fight back.
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‐ You know, I think he did a
little robbery here and there,
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and he was terribly
ashamed of it.
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It was a brief part
of his life.
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He also would fight.
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People would pay to see him
fight on the street.
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Doing whatever it takes
to survive.
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‐ I was living
in a youth hostel.
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Father O'Malley,
you know, he says,
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"You know, Roderick,
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have you ever seen
professional wrestling?"
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I said, "No, sir."
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He says, "I can get you $25."
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Whew! You know, that was,
like, three months' rent.
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‐ He was 15 years old
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when he had his
first professional fight
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against
Larry "The Axe" Hennig.
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‐ Larry Hennig
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coming into the ring
at this time...
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‐ You know, Rod, he knew
that he needed an angle.
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I don't believe at that time
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he'd come up with
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
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His name was Rod Toombs,
so he went by that name.
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I don't know
how many wrestlers
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can play the bagpipes
and has kilt.
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And so that's what he did
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to distinguish himself
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based on the talent
that he actually had.
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‐ The announcer, he just
knew my name was Roddy.
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He had to announce something,
and he says,
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"Ladies and gentlemen
here comes...
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♪ ♪
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Roddy the Piper."
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‐ He was just
naturally good at it,
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and then that evolved
into his wrestling career,
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since it was a special skill
that he could use as a gimmick.
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People would stand up and say...
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you know, and yell at him.
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That was his goal
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was to get people
pissed off at him,
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so they're going to look
in the program:
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"Who is this guy?"
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‐ My nose was broke, you know?
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And Larry only hit me twice,
but he did a good job.
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My eye was drooping,
and he says,
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"Kid, how'd you like to go
to Kansas City?"
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And that's how I got
into pro wrestling,
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and I never stopped.
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‐ He knew that there was going
to be many days
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that he didn't know where
the next paycheck was coming,
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and so he just
threw himself at it.
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That took him
all across Canada
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and then into the States,
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just wherever
he could get a job.
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‐ When wrestling came along,
that's why I just boom!
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Because it had all the
elements without the police.
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‐ There were more
than two dozen
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wrestling territories
in North America,
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so that meant that guys
could make a living uprooting,
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going from territory
to territory.
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‐ I'm so fortunate
to have wrestling
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and the way it evolved.
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If it hadn't,
I would've been dead.
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There's no doubt about it.
255
00:10:21.121 --> 00:10:24.332
I've got a baby face
that looks 12,
256
00:10:24.415 --> 00:10:26.334
in a dress,
playing bagpipes,
257
00:10:26.417 --> 00:10:28.878
and they just beat me up.
258
00:10:29.003 --> 00:10:30.630
‐ So when you're
just getting in,
259
00:10:30.755 --> 00:10:31.965
you're breaking
into pro wrestling,
260
00:10:32.006 --> 00:10:33.091
what do you do?
261
00:10:33.174 --> 00:10:34.717
They beat you up,
262
00:10:34.843 --> 00:10:36.719
and you have to continuously
get up and keep coming back.
263
00:10:36.845 --> 00:10:40.640
‐ I got my first break
in Los Angeles,
264
00:10:40.682 --> 00:10:42.725
and holy cow.
265
00:10:42.851 --> 00:10:46.229
Really, really brutal,
brutal days.
266
00:10:50.358 --> 00:10:52.360
‐ Roddy came into the gym.
267
00:10:52.485 --> 00:10:54.863
I says, "What are you doing?"
268
00:10:54.988 --> 00:10:57.615
"You gonna sweep up
the place,
269
00:10:57.699 --> 00:11:00.577
or sell hot doggies,
chicken on a bun?"
270
00:11:00.702 --> 00:11:03.496
He says, "No, I'm a wrestler."
271
00:11:03.580 --> 00:11:07.000
And I says, "You look like
you got polio in your stomach,
272
00:11:07.083 --> 00:11:08.293
"you're so small.
273
00:11:08.376 --> 00:11:11.337
"You'll never make it.
You got to learn how to wrestle
274
00:11:11.421 --> 00:11:14.632
so you can be
a sadistic bastard."
275
00:11:14.757 --> 00:11:16.467
‐ We're gonna see things
that are different,
276
00:11:16.551 --> 00:11:19.971
that's never been seen before,
ever, ever on any film.
277
00:11:20.054 --> 00:11:21.973
♪ ♪
278
00:11:22.015 --> 00:11:25.476
Don't practice this without
a qualified instructor
279
00:11:25.602 --> 00:11:27.020
right there with you.
280
00:11:28.188 --> 00:11:31.691
‐ Judo Gene‐‐if you don't
know, look him up‐‐
281
00:11:31.816 --> 00:11:33.985
was the toughest man
in the world,
282
00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:37.488
trained Bruce Lee,
Chuck Norris,
283
00:11:37.614 --> 00:11:39.991
Rowdy Ronda Rousey.
284
00:11:40.033 --> 00:11:42.577
‐ Gene LeBell
I would consider
285
00:11:42.702 --> 00:11:45.830
the most decorated stuntman
of all time.
286
00:11:45.955 --> 00:11:51.169
He was in the first‐ever
televised MMA event.
287
00:11:51.294 --> 00:11:53.504
When I was doing judo,
he would help me a lot.
288
00:11:53.630 --> 00:11:55.215
And then when I got in to MMA,
289
00:11:55.298 --> 00:11:58.760
he was in my corner for, like,
every single match.
290
00:11:58.843 --> 00:12:01.930
‐ Judo Gene saw that these
guys were bullying me,
291
00:12:02.013 --> 00:12:04.682
and Gene would tell me
what to do on the fly.
292
00:12:04.807 --> 00:12:07.727
‐ You got to beat them
with the dark side of the moon.
293
00:12:07.852 --> 00:12:10.813
Roddy said, "What's the dark
side of the moon?"
294
00:12:10.939 --> 00:12:14.817
"Well, what the referee
doesn't see, didn't happen."
295
00:12:14.901 --> 00:12:16.152
Watch you don't
take the eyes out.
296
00:12:16.236 --> 00:12:19.155
This is the throat.
Throat's a great handle.
297
00:12:19.280 --> 00:12:20.365
‐ [yells]
298
00:12:20.490 --> 00:12:22.367
‐ He'd call me late at night.
299
00:12:22.492 --> 00:12:24.577
And my wife said,
300
00:12:24.702 --> 00:12:27.497
"Hey, it must be Roddy
calling again."
301
00:12:27.622 --> 00:12:31.084
So he says, "Hey, let's go
and roll for a couple hours."
302
00:12:31.167 --> 00:12:35.713
We worked out hard,
no playing games.
303
00:12:35.838 --> 00:12:37.924
He wanted to know
how to wrestle.
304
00:12:38.841 --> 00:12:40.301
‐ The LeBell family is...
305
00:12:40.426 --> 00:12:41.636
they're legendary.
306
00:12:41.761 --> 00:12:43.304
They ran
the Olympic Auditorium,
307
00:12:43.429 --> 00:12:45.640
and because Dad
had earned their respect,
308
00:12:45.682 --> 00:12:48.351
he was able then to wrestle
there in LA
309
00:12:48.476 --> 00:12:50.019
for the LeBell family,
310
00:12:50.103 --> 00:12:51.521
and that is really where Dad
311
00:12:51.646 --> 00:12:53.523
got the chance
to spread his wings
312
00:12:53.648 --> 00:12:56.359
and really become
not just another fighter
313
00:12:56.484 --> 00:12:58.987
but the one they came to see.
314
00:12:59.070 --> 00:13:05.910
♪ ♪
315
00:13:06.035 --> 00:13:07.787
‐ One of my favorite memories
with him
316
00:13:07.870 --> 00:13:10.665
is when I was, like, 15.
317
00:13:10.748 --> 00:13:13.001
He brought me to LA
to see Hollywood,
318
00:13:13.126 --> 00:13:16.129
and I wanted to be an actress
and a singer.
319
00:13:16.212 --> 00:13:18.298
And so, to me,
Hollywood was like, "Whoo!"
320
00:13:18.381 --> 00:13:21.134
Marilyn Monroe handprints,
and the glamour and all of that.
321
00:13:21.217 --> 00:13:23.970
And we get here
and he rents a car,
322
00:13:24.012 --> 00:13:25.179
he's like, "All right, kid,
323
00:13:25.263 --> 00:13:27.140
I'm gonna take you
around town."
324
00:13:28.349 --> 00:13:30.685
First thing he does is,
he goes somewhere
325
00:13:30.810 --> 00:13:32.770
into, like, the Compton,
maybe, area.
326
00:13:32.854 --> 00:13:34.439
I was a little young
to understand
327
00:13:34.522 --> 00:13:35.440
what I was looking at.
328
00:13:35.523 --> 00:13:36.816
And he was like,
329
00:13:36.899 --> 00:13:38.860
"That's where your father
slept on the streets.
330
00:13:38.985 --> 00:13:42.947
"A woman got murdered
right outside my window,
331
00:13:43.031 --> 00:13:45.074
but I didn't say anything,
'cause I'm not a snitch."
332
00:13:45.158 --> 00:13:48.995
He's just telling me
these horrific stories.
333
00:13:50.413 --> 00:13:53.666
So then I come home
from that vacation.
334
00:13:53.791 --> 00:13:55.043
My friends asked me,
they're like,
335
00:13:55.168 --> 00:13:56.586
"How's Hollywood?"
And they were like,
336
00:13:56.669 --> 00:13:58.087
"Did you see this and that?"
337
00:13:58.171 --> 00:14:00.965
I was like, "I think I got
the wrestlers' tour."
338
00:14:01.049 --> 00:14:02.216
[laughs]
339
00:14:03.593 --> 00:14:06.471
[upbeat Spanish guitar music]
340
00:14:06.596 --> 00:14:11.684
♪ ♪
341
00:14:11.809 --> 00:14:14.312
‐ I was born and grew up
in Los Angeles,
342
00:14:14.395 --> 00:14:16.064
and some of my earliest memories
that I have
343
00:14:16.189 --> 00:14:17.648
are actually about
professional wrestling,
344
00:14:17.732 --> 00:14:19.650
being a professional
wrestling fan.
345
00:14:19.776 --> 00:14:21.402
I remember going
down on the bus,
346
00:14:21.486 --> 00:14:23.780
running with my stepfather,
trying to catch a bus
347
00:14:23.863 --> 00:14:25.365
to go down
to the Olympic Auditorium.
348
00:14:25.490 --> 00:14:28.868
In 1976, one of the new faces
in the territory
349
00:14:28.993 --> 00:14:31.037
was a young lad
by the name of Roddy Piper.
350
00:14:31.162 --> 00:14:34.123
He was 21 years old.
351
00:14:34.207 --> 00:14:36.042
He was a young,
fresh‐faced kid.
352
00:14:36.167 --> 00:14:39.045
Fans gave him
polite applause.
353
00:14:41.005 --> 00:14:43.716
They start wrestling, and it
starts out as a clean match.
354
00:14:43.841 --> 00:14:46.928
But little by little, subtly,
355
00:14:47.011 --> 00:14:50.098
he starts doing these things
that only a villain would do.
356
00:14:51.682 --> 00:14:53.017
He was fighting,
357
00:14:53.142 --> 00:14:54.519
and he was giving people
kicks to the groin
358
00:14:54.644 --> 00:14:56.062
during his wrestling matches.
359
00:14:56.145 --> 00:14:58.648
♪ ♪
360
00:14:58.689 --> 00:15:01.484
It was like watching
a caterpillar
361
00:15:01.567 --> 00:15:03.152
transform into a butterfly,
362
00:15:03.236 --> 00:15:07.323
and you just saw this magic
happening before your eyes.
363
00:15:07.365 --> 00:15:09.200
People were booing
Roddy Piper.
364
00:15:09.325 --> 00:15:11.953
They absolutely hated
who he was.
365
00:15:12.036 --> 00:15:13.329
‐ I am the intelligence.
366
00:15:13.413 --> 00:15:15.623
I think the most controversial
thing I did
367
00:15:15.706 --> 00:15:17.041
was stir up controversy
368
00:15:17.166 --> 00:15:18.876
because it draws money.
369
00:15:19.001 --> 00:15:21.254
Conflict draws money.
370
00:15:21.337 --> 00:15:23.714
‐ The wheels were always turning
for him as to what can I say,
371
00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:25.133
what can I do next?
372
00:15:25.216 --> 00:15:27.009
'cause you had
to keep them interested.
373
00:15:27.135 --> 00:15:28.928
You had to keep them
coming back.
374
00:15:29.011 --> 00:15:31.013
‐ There's no way, Piper!
‐ Hey!
375
00:15:31.139 --> 00:15:32.348
‐ Oh!
‐ Hey! Piper!
376
00:15:32.473 --> 00:15:34.267
‐ Get up, you think
you're so tough!
377
00:15:34.350 --> 00:15:36.477
‐ Anything he did,
he wanted to be good at it.
378
00:15:36.561 --> 00:15:38.855
‐ I don't plan to go in there
and make it easy.
379
00:15:38.980 --> 00:15:40.815
I don't plan to go in there
and not have some knocks
380
00:15:40.857 --> 00:15:42.483
on my own noggin, brother.
381
00:15:42.567 --> 00:15:45.069
‐ And they used him
to do the interviews
382
00:15:45.194 --> 00:15:51.159
because he would showboat
and help sell boletos, tickets.
383
00:15:51.284 --> 00:15:52.869
‐ You're a pig,
Guerrero!
384
00:15:52.994 --> 00:15:55.163
Your father was a pig,
385
00:15:55.246 --> 00:15:56.998
your brother was a pig,
386
00:15:57.081 --> 00:15:58.666
and you're a pig, Guerrero!
387
00:15:58.749 --> 00:16:01.961
‐ The Guerrero family
was one of the first families
388
00:16:02.003 --> 00:16:03.963
in professional wrestling.
389
00:16:04.046 --> 00:16:05.465
If you're of Latino descent,
390
00:16:05.506 --> 00:16:08.718
you didn't really see
a lot of faces on television
391
00:16:08.843 --> 00:16:10.344
that were like yours.
392
00:16:10.470 --> 00:16:12.763
And usually if you did, they
played the roles of a gardener,
393
00:16:12.847 --> 00:16:14.474
or they played the role
of a maid.
394
00:16:14.557 --> 00:16:20.646
So for us to see the Guerrero
family in hero roles
395
00:16:20.771 --> 00:16:22.690
was very important.
396
00:16:22.773 --> 00:16:24.484
We worshiped them.
397
00:16:24.567 --> 00:16:26.152
‐ You get in that ring,
Chavo Guerrero,
398
00:16:26.235 --> 00:16:27.945
and it's going to be
all over for you, brother,
399
00:16:28.029 --> 00:16:29.614
because I don't give a damn
about nothing no more.
400
00:16:29.697 --> 00:16:31.866
‐ When Roddy Piper
would insult the Guerreros,
401
00:16:31.991 --> 00:16:34.035
we took it very personally.
402
00:16:34.160 --> 00:16:36.996
‐ You sitting at home
with your fat bellies
403
00:16:37.038 --> 00:16:39.499
and your construction boots
drinking your beer,
404
00:16:39.540 --> 00:16:41.000
you know who I am.
405
00:16:41.083 --> 00:16:43.711
‐ Roddy really had
the whole package.
406
00:16:43.836 --> 00:16:45.421
In the ring,
he was a dirty wrestler,
407
00:16:45.505 --> 00:16:48.132
but he had all this
tremendous frenetic energy.
408
00:16:48.216 --> 00:16:51.302
But also, he knew how to get
a reaction out of the fans,
409
00:16:51.385 --> 00:16:53.012
and one of the ways
he would do that
410
00:16:53.137 --> 00:16:54.931
was to bring his bagpipes
out to the ring.
411
00:16:55.014 --> 00:16:56.057
[playing off‐key]
412
00:16:56.182 --> 00:16:58.059
‐ One time, he told everybody
413
00:16:58.184 --> 00:17:01.103
and silenced
the entire stadium,
414
00:17:01.187 --> 00:17:03.439
he'd play the Mexican
national anthem
415
00:17:03.523 --> 00:17:06.817
to apologize for attacking
the Guerreros.
416
00:17:06.943 --> 00:17:10.154
‐ I said, "You know,
I love you people.
417
00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:13.658
I'd like to do
something special."
418
00:17:13.741 --> 00:17:15.201
[crowd booing]
419
00:17:15.284 --> 00:17:18.746
And all the wonderful
Hispanic people came in.
420
00:17:18.871 --> 00:17:20.581
I'm in the ring.
421
00:17:20.706 --> 00:17:27.421
And, "Please stand for
the Mexican national anthem."
422
00:17:29.507 --> 00:17:33.636
[whispering] Just like this
I said to myself,
423
00:17:33.719 --> 00:17:35.930
"I'm gonna die."
424
00:17:36.013 --> 00:17:38.641
I put those bagpipes up, man.
425
00:17:38.724 --> 00:17:40.393
It's too late, right?
426
00:17:40.518 --> 00:17:42.311
‐ And Roddy starts
playing his notes,
427
00:17:42.395 --> 00:17:44.480
and it's not the Mexican
national anthem.
428
00:17:44.605 --> 00:17:46.899
But he starts playing
"La Cucaracha."
429
00:17:47.024 --> 00:17:48.568
He starts playing a song
about a cockroach.
430
00:17:48.693 --> 00:17:51.696
[playing "La Cucaracha"
on bagpipes]
431
00:17:51.821 --> 00:17:54.115
♪ ♪
432
00:17:54.198 --> 00:17:56.826
♪ La cucaracha, la cucaracha ♪
433
00:17:56.951 --> 00:17:58.494
[hums]
434
00:17:58.619 --> 00:18:02.456
Holy cow, chairs that were
bolted down in the cement,
435
00:18:02.540 --> 00:18:04.959
here they come.
436
00:18:05.001 --> 00:18:06.294
‐ And the fans...
437
00:18:06.335 --> 00:18:08.713
♪ ♪
438
00:18:08.838 --> 00:18:10.047
They're just shocked.
439
00:18:10.172 --> 00:18:12.633
‐ Chairs come up.
Things are being thrown.
440
00:18:12.717 --> 00:18:14.302
Stage is being overcome.
441
00:18:14.427 --> 00:18:17.138
‐ It was like watching...
watching a car wreck, you know?
442
00:18:17.263 --> 00:18:19.056
It's a horrible thing to see,
but at the same time,
443
00:18:19.181 --> 00:18:20.516
you can't take your eyes
away from it.
444
00:18:20.641 --> 00:18:23.019
‐ I was there that night,
445
00:18:23.144 --> 00:18:25.479
and I was going to...
446
00:18:25.563 --> 00:18:27.148
whiz in my pants.
447
00:18:27.273 --> 00:18:29.233
‐ You can't write
that kind of stuff.
448
00:18:29.358 --> 00:18:31.819
‐ I says,
"This guy is a natural."
449
00:18:31.902 --> 00:18:36.115
♪ ♪
450
00:18:43.372 --> 00:18:47.376
‐ You had to move around,
especially as a bad guy.
451
00:18:47.460 --> 00:18:49.378
You would run your course,
452
00:18:49.503 --> 00:18:54.050
and then you needed to go on
and find another place to go
453
00:18:54.175 --> 00:18:56.052
and stake your claim
for a while
454
00:18:56.177 --> 00:18:58.179
and then you would move on
somewhere else.
455
00:18:58.304 --> 00:19:00.973
‐ I am extremely pleased
456
00:19:01.057 --> 00:19:04.769
to take my wonderful trophy.
457
00:19:04.852 --> 00:19:07.647
‐ Once I left Los Angeles,
when I went to Portland,
458
00:19:07.688 --> 00:19:09.023
nobody knew who I was,
459
00:19:09.106 --> 00:19:10.858
so you had to start
all over again.
460
00:19:10.941 --> 00:19:13.944
[hopeful music]
461
00:19:14.028 --> 00:19:19.325
♪ ♪
462
00:19:26.165 --> 00:19:27.750
Did you find the choke?
‐ Yeah.
463
00:19:27.875 --> 00:19:31.379
‐ Okay, kick the engine over,
leaving the throttle closed.
464
00:19:32.546 --> 00:19:35.883
It's probably just new.
It needs‐‐takes a lot of kicks.
465
00:19:35.966 --> 00:19:37.134
‐ Yeah.
466
00:19:37.218 --> 00:19:39.595
‐ I met Roddy in 1979.
467
00:19:39.679 --> 00:19:43.349
I was working graveyard shift
as a waitress
468
00:19:43.474 --> 00:19:45.351
just southwest side
of Portland.
469
00:19:45.476 --> 00:19:47.395
‐ Get you something out there.
470
00:19:47.520 --> 00:19:50.147
‐ Roderick, you're lucky
I had it high enough
471
00:19:50.272 --> 00:19:53.192
that that didn't show.
‐ [laughs]
472
00:19:53.275 --> 00:19:56.320
‐ He was the funniest
human being on the planet.
473
00:19:56.445 --> 00:19:58.864
[snickers]
‐ Is that it?
474
00:19:58.989 --> 00:20:00.491
‐ Oh, the guy...
475
00:20:00.574 --> 00:20:04.495
all the wrinkles on my face
are from him making me laugh.
476
00:20:04.578 --> 00:20:06.747
I was young,
I was 19 years old,
477
00:20:06.872 --> 00:20:09.333
and so all the other
waitresses would say,
478
00:20:09.458 --> 00:20:11.293
"You go wait
on those wrestlers."
479
00:20:11.419 --> 00:20:12.962
Prime rib was always
what he got.
480
00:20:13.087 --> 00:20:16.924
He ordered two prime ribs and
always two pieces of lemon pie.
481
00:20:17.007 --> 00:20:19.176
He started asking me,
482
00:20:19.301 --> 00:20:20.344
"Hey, can I have
your phone number?
483
00:20:20.469 --> 00:20:22.138
I'd like to ask you out."
484
00:20:23.681 --> 00:20:26.475
I thought he was cute as heck.
Thought he cute as heck.
485
00:20:26.600 --> 00:20:29.478
But the crowd he was with
was so loud, and so I'm like,
486
00:20:29.562 --> 00:20:32.314
"Nah, you know.
Hey, hi, hi."
487
00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:35.234
So we kind of flirted,
but after about a month,
488
00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:37.528
his tag‐team partner,
Killer Brooks,
489
00:20:37.611 --> 00:20:39.196
got down on his knees
and he says,
490
00:20:39.321 --> 00:20:40.364
"Please give him
your phone number.
491
00:20:40.448 --> 00:20:41.657
"I'm his tag‐team partner,
492
00:20:41.741 --> 00:20:43.743
"and I'm getting
beat to heck out there
493
00:20:43.868 --> 00:20:46.162
"because he's only
thinking about you.
494
00:20:46.245 --> 00:20:47.663
He wants to get to know you."
495
00:20:47.747 --> 00:20:50.124
So I said, "Okay, I'll take
his phone number."
496
00:20:50.207 --> 00:20:52.710
And then we hit it off.
497
00:20:54.503 --> 00:20:58.215
♪ ♪
498
00:20:58.340 --> 00:20:59.717
Portland wrestling
499
00:20:59.842 --> 00:21:03.262
in the late '70s,
early '80s was huge.
500
00:21:03.345 --> 00:21:05.556
The buildings
were always packed.
501
00:21:05.639 --> 00:21:07.641
From the moment
I started dating him,
502
00:21:07.767 --> 00:21:10.144
anywhere we would go,
people knew who he was.
503
00:21:10.227 --> 00:21:12.813
Everyone pretty much
had the same reaction.
504
00:21:12.938 --> 00:21:13.981
They were shocked,
505
00:21:14.064 --> 00:21:15.775
but after they met him,
506
00:21:15.858 --> 00:21:20.488
they all understood that he
was a genuine guy and caring.
507
00:21:20.571 --> 00:21:22.406
‐ You come down here
and burn your bra
508
00:21:22.531 --> 00:21:23.532
and think you're something?
509
00:21:23.616 --> 00:21:25.075
You're getting in there
with men...
510
00:21:25.201 --> 00:21:27.411
‐ And to have to do something
511
00:21:27.495 --> 00:21:29.580
like when he attacked
a woman wrestler,
512
00:21:29.663 --> 00:21:31.665
he has to do it over the top
513
00:21:31.749 --> 00:21:34.251
because it's so hard
for him to do.
514
00:21:34.335 --> 00:21:37.379
‐ This is why men wrestle
and why women don't!
515
00:21:37.505 --> 00:21:39.507
This is why!
Get outta here!
516
00:21:39.632 --> 00:21:41.467
Get outta here!
That's why!
517
00:21:41.550 --> 00:21:45.805
‐ For Roddy in real life,
a woman is on a pedestal.
518
00:21:45.888 --> 00:21:47.139
♪ ♪
519
00:21:47.223 --> 00:21:48.974
He's very old‐fashioned.
520
00:21:49.058 --> 00:21:50.434
He would never hit a woman.
521
00:21:50.518 --> 00:21:53.771
He would never
insult a woman.
522
00:21:53.854 --> 00:21:56.315
And I decided early on,
523
00:21:56.398 --> 00:21:58.651
I was gonna love Roddy
no matter what.
524
00:21:58.734 --> 00:22:00.402
I did and I do
525
00:22:00.528 --> 00:22:03.906
and wouldn't change it
for the world.
526
00:22:03.989 --> 00:22:12.832
♪ ♪
527
00:22:12.957 --> 00:22:16.460
‐ In Portland,
it was a smaller territory.
528
00:22:16.585 --> 00:22:19.004
In Atlanta,
the business was growing.
529
00:22:19.129 --> 00:22:20.673
You had to move around,
530
00:22:20.798 --> 00:22:25.302
and you had to be able to go
from territory to territory.
531
00:22:25.386 --> 00:22:27.680
That's the way that the
business worked at the time.
532
00:22:27.805 --> 00:22:30.641
‐ They called me
on the East Coast.
533
00:22:30.724 --> 00:22:33.727
I was ready at any time to get
up and take a left‐hand turn.
534
00:22:33.853 --> 00:22:36.188
And I drove the old
yellow canary
535
00:22:36.313 --> 00:22:38.274
right across the country.
536
00:22:38.357 --> 00:22:42.236
[upbeat rock music]
537
00:22:42.361 --> 00:22:45.239
‐ WTBS in Atlanta, Georgia,
538
00:22:45.322 --> 00:22:47.825
Ted Turner's superstation,
539
00:22:47.908 --> 00:22:50.327
wrestling was a staple.
540
00:22:51.871 --> 00:22:53.831
Here's Roddy Piper.
541
00:22:53.914 --> 00:22:57.626
Very few people knew who he
was on a national basis.
542
00:22:57.710 --> 00:22:59.962
He wasn't the biggest guy
in the world,
543
00:23:00.087 --> 00:23:01.755
but the one thing that he did
544
00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:04.633
better than anybody else
was talk.
545
00:23:04.717 --> 00:23:06.719
‐ It's a pleasure for you
to have me here, I'm sure.
546
00:23:06.844 --> 00:23:09.138
You see, being the expert
that I am...
547
00:23:09.221 --> 00:23:14.310
‐ The promoters realized Roddy
knew how to tell a story,
548
00:23:14.435 --> 00:23:18.480
not just his own story,
but other people's stories.
549
00:23:18.606 --> 00:23:20.149
‐ People want to get
familiar with me.
550
00:23:20.190 --> 00:23:21.692
People like yourself...
551
00:23:21.775 --> 00:23:23.110
‐ He was brought in
as Rod Piper,
552
00:23:23.193 --> 00:23:25.070
the color commentator:
553
00:23:25.195 --> 00:23:27.823
sport coat, no kilt,
554
00:23:27.907 --> 00:23:33.245
and then the color commentator
began to skew his views...
555
00:23:33.370 --> 00:23:35.831
‐ You got a big,
big, big mouth.
556
00:23:35.915 --> 00:23:37.833
‐ If they let a bald‐headed
geek like you in...
557
00:23:37.958 --> 00:23:40.252
‐ Maybe a little bit
more nasty...
558
00:23:40.336 --> 00:23:42.171
‐ You just stay out of my way,
pig face!
559
00:23:42.296 --> 00:23:45.633
‐ Maybe a little bit more
against the fan favorites.
560
00:23:45.758 --> 00:23:47.885
‐ And you won't have
to worry about nothing, man.
561
00:23:48.010 --> 00:23:49.303
‐ Pig face?
562
00:23:49.428 --> 00:23:53.349
‐ And they created another way
563
00:23:53.474 --> 00:23:55.768
to get this character over.
564
00:23:55.851 --> 00:23:57.686
‐ They say stick and stones
may break my bones
565
00:23:57.770 --> 00:23:59.355
but words will never hurt me.
566
00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:01.148
Well, some of the words he
says about me and my family
567
00:24:01.231 --> 00:24:02.524
have hurt me deeply.
568
00:24:02.608 --> 00:24:04.234
‐ Sticks and stones
may break your bones.
569
00:24:04.360 --> 00:24:05.945
You are right!
570
00:24:06.028 --> 00:24:09.198
And I'm nuts enough
to throw sticks and stones!
571
00:24:09.323 --> 00:24:11.492
‐ Now you've got,
572
00:24:11.533 --> 00:24:13.953
"I'm gonna kick
that commentator's butt."
573
00:24:14.036 --> 00:24:15.788
‐ Piper into the ring.
574
00:24:15.871 --> 00:24:17.831
‐ The commentator was
a wrestler and a tough guy.
575
00:24:17.957 --> 00:24:20.334
‐ As he gets through the
ropes, and they go at it!
576
00:24:20.459 --> 00:24:22.294
‐ Now he comes out
with the kilt.
577
00:24:22.419 --> 00:24:24.129
‐ The wild man, Roddy Piper.
578
00:24:24.213 --> 00:24:25.839
‐ Now he's Roddy Piper.
579
00:24:25.923 --> 00:24:28.801
‐ Roddy Piper, the only way
that he's really been
580
00:24:28.926 --> 00:24:32.179
outstanding in this match
is his bad sportsmanship.
581
00:24:32.304 --> 00:24:35.641
They're trying to literally
carry Piper out of the ring.
582
00:24:35.766 --> 00:24:37.726
‐ I told you Piper pays back!
583
00:24:37.810 --> 00:24:41.146
I told you, nobody‐‐
nobody messes with Piper!
584
00:24:41.271 --> 00:24:43.440
‐ When he wrestles
as a bad guy,
585
00:24:43.524 --> 00:24:45.567
that was the most comfortable
for him.
586
00:24:45.693 --> 00:24:48.612
‐ Come out here right now
and fight me like a man!
587
00:24:48.696 --> 00:24:50.614
Come right now!
‐ If you're a bad guy,
588
00:24:50.698 --> 00:24:54.076
fans aren't gonna come up
and shake your hand as much.
589
00:24:54.201 --> 00:24:57.162
He could be alone more
if he was a bad guy.
590
00:24:57.287 --> 00:25:01.667
Maybe because he was alone
in life early on so often,
591
00:25:01.792 --> 00:25:03.460
that's where he was
comfortable.
592
00:25:03.585 --> 00:25:05.629
‐ Piper has
hit him with his fist.
593
00:25:05.754 --> 00:25:08.132
He hit him in the jaw
with a roll of coins.
594
00:25:08.173 --> 00:25:11.802
‐ As a kid, he was around
some of the roughest people
595
00:25:11.927 --> 00:25:13.387
you can imagine.
‐ It's mine!
596
00:25:13.512 --> 00:25:15.014
‐ And sometimes I wonder
if that's part
597
00:25:15.139 --> 00:25:19.226
of what pieced together that
bad guy psychology that he had.
598
00:25:19.309 --> 00:25:21.854
‐ I am the legend killer.
599
00:25:22.646 --> 00:25:23.856
[pen scratching]
600
00:25:23.981 --> 00:25:25.649
‐ So my dad did
this thing.
601
00:25:25.733 --> 00:25:27.818
There were these yellow
legal pads that he would write.
602
00:25:27.860 --> 00:25:30.070
He would write
all kinds of ideas.
603
00:25:30.195 --> 00:25:32.406
‐ Just in case he had
the opportunity
604
00:25:32.531 --> 00:25:33.824
that a mic was handed to him
605
00:25:33.907 --> 00:25:35.492
so that he had something
great to say.
606
00:25:35.617 --> 00:25:36.910
‐ You know, you couldn't
get a date
607
00:25:37.036 --> 00:25:39.079
with a $100 bill
on your forehead.
608
00:25:39.204 --> 00:25:40.831
I wouldn't fight you
609
00:25:40.914 --> 00:25:43.500
if my grandma was threatened
by the Huns.
610
00:25:43.584 --> 00:25:45.711
Sometimes maybe I heard it
611
00:25:45.836 --> 00:25:47.629
in the middle
of a rock and roll song.
612
00:25:47.755 --> 00:25:52.009
I just had a knack for putting
that kind of stuff together.
613
00:25:52.134 --> 00:25:53.635
Of course, I don't have
to impress somebody.
614
00:25:53.719 --> 00:25:54.970
They got to impress me,
615
00:25:55.054 --> 00:25:56.972
because I'm Roddy Piper
and you're not.
616
00:25:57.014 --> 00:25:58.599
‐ And that's why
he was so quick‐witted,
617
00:25:58.682 --> 00:26:00.601
because he put in work
nobody else did.
618
00:26:00.684 --> 00:26:03.979
When everybody else was partying
and drinking, which he did,
619
00:26:04.104 --> 00:26:06.607
he also was thinking and writing
these things down.
620
00:26:06.690 --> 00:26:08.317
‐ Like, sometimes
people say to me,
621
00:26:08.442 --> 00:26:10.319
"Oh, you just say what comes
off the top of your head."
622
00:26:10.360 --> 00:26:12.237
Oh, [bleep] horse[bleep].
623
00:26:12.362 --> 00:26:13.489
[scoffs]
624
00:26:13.614 --> 00:26:16.825
You have no idea
how much work went into it.
625
00:26:16.909 --> 00:26:20.496
I seen a lot of men buried
wearing a $50 Stetson
626
00:26:20.621 --> 00:26:23.165
and carrying a five‐buck gun,
you geek.
627
00:26:23.290 --> 00:26:24.583
‐ Whoo‐whoo!
628
00:26:24.708 --> 00:26:26.210
[dramatic music]
629
00:26:26.293 --> 00:26:28.754
‐ There was a guy named
Ric Flair on the East Coast.
630
00:26:28.837 --> 00:26:32.424
‐ The greatest wrestling
in the whole entire wide world
631
00:26:32.508 --> 00:26:34.551
comes right out
of the Mid‐Atlantic area,
632
00:26:34.676 --> 00:26:36.804
and Roddy Piper and I
are glad to be here, brother.
633
00:26:36.929 --> 00:26:38.597
‐ Ric and I were so different.
634
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.474
You know, I wear a kilt.
Ric doesn't.
635
00:26:40.557 --> 00:26:44.061
He's blond. I ain't.
You know?
636
00:26:44.186 --> 00:26:47.314
That we got along real well
outside the ring,
637
00:26:47.356 --> 00:26:50.442
and then everything
started to get out of control.
638
00:26:50.526 --> 00:26:52.986
‐ Piper and Flair
have formed a pact,
639
00:26:53.070 --> 00:26:56.156
and where there's trouble,
we won't be hard to find.
640
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:57.658
‐ He's got a belt.
641
00:26:57.699 --> 00:26:59.118
‐ Well, I knew‐‐
yeah, I'd heard his name,
642
00:26:59.201 --> 00:27:01.286
but I didn't know
anything about him.
643
00:27:01.370 --> 00:27:03.664
He came in the studio,
644
00:27:03.705 --> 00:27:05.082
and I knew right away
I was gonna like him.
645
00:27:05.207 --> 00:27:08.627
He was full of himself,
and, man, I mean, talent.
646
00:27:08.669 --> 00:27:10.212
‐ Ric Flair, Roddy Piper!
647
00:27:10.337 --> 00:27:11.839
That's what it's all about!
648
00:27:11.964 --> 00:27:13.465
That's what
it's all about!
649
00:27:13.590 --> 00:27:15.551
‐ God, he was entertaining.
650
00:27:15.676 --> 00:27:17.970
It was so good
that it made everybody mad.
651
00:27:18.053 --> 00:27:22.141
‐ You're gonna find it's a
whole lot easier to jump on
652
00:27:22.266 --> 00:27:23.308
than it is to jump off.
653
00:27:23.433 --> 00:27:24.852
‐ Whoo!
654
00:27:26.520 --> 00:27:29.148
‐ I had moved over there
to the East Coast with Roddy,
655
00:27:29.231 --> 00:27:32.401
and we were expecting
our first child.
656
00:27:32.526 --> 00:27:34.153
It was very rowdy times.
657
00:27:34.236 --> 00:27:37.948
Roddy and Ric
and the other wrestlers,
658
00:27:38.031 --> 00:27:40.659
they lived on a planet
that was theirs.
659
00:27:40.742 --> 00:27:44.121
They were a wild,
wild pair of men,
660
00:27:44.204 --> 00:27:47.833
lots of drinking and hotels
getting damaged and such.
661
00:27:47.875 --> 00:27:49.543
‐ Next thing I remember,
662
00:27:49.668 --> 00:27:51.920
I'm in my bed,
my clothes are on,
663
00:27:52.004 --> 00:27:53.964
the door's knocked off
the hinges.
664
00:27:54.089 --> 00:27:55.632
I didn't know what happened,
665
00:27:55.757 --> 00:27:57.176
but I got the hell
out of there.
666
00:27:57.259 --> 00:27:59.636
‐ You hear things.
You know some things.
667
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.930
You don't know
a lot of things.
668
00:28:02.014 --> 00:28:05.726
Roddy was Roddy,
and that's what it was.
669
00:28:05.851 --> 00:28:09.521
‐ We like our kamikazes on ice
and our women on fire.
670
00:28:09.646 --> 00:28:11.064
You understand
what I'm saying?
671
00:28:11.190 --> 00:28:12.816
‐ A little woman?
‐ And everywhere we go,
672
00:28:12.941 --> 00:28:17.112
we do it better, longer,
harder than anybody else!
673
00:28:18.530 --> 00:28:20.449
We were the Beatles, man.
674
00:28:20.532 --> 00:28:23.076
It was suicidal
putting us together.
675
00:28:23.202 --> 00:28:26.455
Ingesting or drinking,
anything,
676
00:28:26.538 --> 00:28:28.999
Roddy could beat anybody
to the draw.
677
00:28:29.875 --> 00:28:32.211
‐ It just got way out of hand.
678
00:28:32.336 --> 00:28:36.673
This is where Ric Flair started
the, you know, 99 kamikazes.
679
00:28:36.757 --> 00:28:38.383
You know, here I'm, like‐‐
whoa, you know?
680
00:28:38.467 --> 00:28:40.052
I'm pretty hard core man.
Pretty hard core.
681
00:28:40.177 --> 00:28:41.637
I'm drinking mine,
682
00:28:41.762 --> 00:28:43.639
and I'd be the one always
be getting in trouble.
683
00:28:43.722 --> 00:28:48.477
‐ It was a time to make money,
but it was go, go, go, go, go.
684
00:28:48.602 --> 00:28:50.395
And you get three days off,
685
00:28:50.479 --> 00:28:52.898
and then you come back on the
road for another couple weeks.
686
00:28:53.023 --> 00:28:56.109
And I remember we were
driving in a snowstorm.
687
00:28:56.193 --> 00:28:58.111
You know, we had beers
and everything in the car.
688
00:28:58.195 --> 00:28:59.446
So we got out,
689
00:28:59.529 --> 00:29:01.156
and we're all taking a leak
on the side of the road.
690
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.242
And all of a sudden,
Roddy ran to the car.
691
00:29:03.367 --> 00:29:05.619
And I remember it's like
we ran after him,
692
00:29:05.702 --> 00:29:06.954
'cause we knew
that Roddy was in
693
00:29:07.037 --> 00:29:08.497
one of those kind of
states of mind
694
00:29:08.580 --> 00:29:10.666
where he was gonna
take the car.
695
00:29:10.707 --> 00:29:11.959
We pretty much tackled Roddy
696
00:29:12.084 --> 00:29:13.669
while he was trying to drive
off in the car.
697
00:29:13.794 --> 00:29:16.755
‐ He was a...
a tough guy to handle.
698
00:29:16.838 --> 00:29:19.466
He was a heavy partier.
699
00:29:19.549 --> 00:29:21.176
And I would scoop him up,
700
00:29:21.301 --> 00:29:23.011
and I'd make sure he got
701
00:29:23.095 --> 00:29:24.721
to where he was
supposed to be going.
702
00:29:24.805 --> 00:29:27.266
Got him to his rooms.
Got him to the hotel.
703
00:29:27.349 --> 00:29:29.893
Got him to the airports.
704
00:29:29.977 --> 00:29:33.063
‐ You go out there and wrestle
for 45 minutes,
705
00:29:33.188 --> 00:29:34.898
and you come back,
take a shower.
706
00:29:34.982 --> 00:29:37.150
You're wide frigging awake.
707
00:29:37.234 --> 00:29:40.362
And a lot of times,
I'd look at the coke and...
708
00:29:40.487 --> 00:29:41.905
"Oh, I don't want to do this."
709
00:29:42.030 --> 00:29:43.907
But you end up doing it.
710
00:29:44.032 --> 00:29:46.368
‐ It was, "I need this
to wake up to wrestle."
711
00:29:46.493 --> 00:29:47.661
"I need this to go to bed,
712
00:29:47.786 --> 00:29:49.246
'cause I work in an hour
and this is all I have."
713
00:29:49.371 --> 00:29:52.666
‐ It was also
about to numb the pain,
714
00:29:52.749 --> 00:29:55.085
the physical pain,
the pain of being alone,
715
00:29:55.168 --> 00:29:57.921
always having
to be in transition.
716
00:29:58.005 --> 00:30:00.966
You know, you're never
sitting still.
717
00:30:01.091 --> 00:30:04.011
‐ It's a vicious cycle that
would just go round and round.
718
00:30:04.136 --> 00:30:06.138
It's easier to go
have a drink.
719
00:30:06.221 --> 00:30:08.473
It's easier to go take a pill
or go smoke a joint.
720
00:30:08.557 --> 00:30:10.475
‐ Back in those days,
721
00:30:10.600 --> 00:30:13.854
like, any injury
could cost you your job.
722
00:30:13.979 --> 00:30:15.647
If you can't do it,
723
00:30:15.689 --> 00:30:18.191
they replace you a few minutes
later with somebody else.
724
00:30:18.317 --> 00:30:20.319
You learn to be
your own doctors.
725
00:30:20.402 --> 00:30:22.237
That's kind of the sad thing
is, you're your own doctor.
726
00:30:22.362 --> 00:30:25.657
Roddy was pretty
out of control.
727
00:30:25.782 --> 00:30:27.784
Lord knows what kind
of drugs and alcohol
728
00:30:27.868 --> 00:30:33.832
were being consumed.
729
00:30:33.915 --> 00:30:35.334
[chuckles]
730
00:30:37.377 --> 00:30:38.879
‐ [laughter]
731
00:30:39.963 --> 00:30:42.090
‐ Having Roddy travel so often
732
00:30:42.174 --> 00:30:46.345
and be gone so much
and having a growing family,
733
00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:48.764
it was very difficult.
734
00:30:48.847 --> 00:30:53.935
‐ When you live like we did,
you know, 3,000 miles a week,
735
00:30:54.019 --> 00:30:57.022
you become desensitized.
736
00:30:57.147 --> 00:30:58.774
‐ Say merry Christmas.
737
00:30:58.857 --> 00:31:01.151
all: Merry Christmas.
738
00:31:01.234 --> 00:31:03.153
‐ One thing that Roddy did,
739
00:31:03.195 --> 00:31:07.657
he kept his family completely
out of the business
740
00:31:07.741 --> 00:31:11.787
'cause he didn't want them
to see what he went through.
741
00:31:11.870 --> 00:31:13.246
He wanted them to grow up
742
00:31:13.372 --> 00:31:15.374
and be beautiful
and healthy and happy,
743
00:31:15.499 --> 00:31:19.127
and I think he took
too much of it on himself.
744
00:31:19.211 --> 00:31:20.921
♪ ♪
745
00:31:21.004 --> 00:31:23.507
‐ Sometimes when Rod
would come home from the road,
746
00:31:23.632 --> 00:31:25.050
he wouldn't come
straight home.
747
00:31:25.175 --> 00:31:29.054
He would check into a
hotel room and just get rested
748
00:31:29.179 --> 00:31:31.431
because when he got home,
he couldn't rest.
749
00:31:31.515 --> 00:31:33.683
I'd like to know
where mine is.
750
00:31:33.809 --> 00:31:35.477
‐ [laughs]
To Barnacle Bill.
751
00:31:35.560 --> 00:31:37.020
♪ ♪
752
00:31:37.104 --> 00:31:38.855
‐ He almost had to do
a transition mentally
753
00:31:38.980 --> 00:31:40.565
when he came from
the road to home,
754
00:31:40.690 --> 00:31:42.859
because he didn't want
to bring that character home.
755
00:31:42.943 --> 00:31:45.195
He had such a hot temper
as Hot Rod.
756
00:31:45.320 --> 00:31:46.738
And he had to,
757
00:31:46.863 --> 00:31:48.240
because he had to be
on guard a lot.
758
00:31:49.449 --> 00:31:51.201
It was very separate.
759
00:31:51.326 --> 00:31:55.288
He didn't like to take us
to a lot of events.
760
00:31:55.372 --> 00:31:58.375
We were very concerned
about safety
761
00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:02.838
because of how much aggression
was being put towards Rod.
762
00:32:02.963 --> 00:32:05.882
[crowd cheering]
763
00:32:05.966 --> 00:32:07.801
‐ He had been a villain
in the Deep South
764
00:32:07.926 --> 00:32:10.345
and fighting fans
and, you know,
765
00:32:10.470 --> 00:32:11.888
getting assault charges.
766
00:32:12.013 --> 00:32:13.390
I mean, I can think
of a few situations
767
00:32:13.515 --> 00:32:15.976
with Roddy with fans
trying to run us off the road
768
00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:18.895
and chasing us in cities
like Detroit.
769
00:32:19.020 --> 00:32:21.565
‐ People would throw
thumbtacks in the ring,
770
00:32:21.648 --> 00:32:23.024
hit with beer bottles.
771
00:32:23.150 --> 00:32:24.359
In Asheville, North Carolina,
772
00:32:24.484 --> 00:32:26.903
they threw a rattlesnake
in the ring one night.
773
00:32:27.028 --> 00:32:28.780
Guy ran down to the ringside
with a gunnysack
774
00:32:28.864 --> 00:32:30.031
and threw a rattlesnake.
775
00:32:30.157 --> 00:32:31.992
[bell dings]
[crowd booing]
776
00:32:32.033 --> 00:32:34.619
‐ There was a lot
of crazy fans back then,
777
00:32:34.703 --> 00:32:37.914
and being a bad guy could be
a very dangerous living.
778
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.000
‐ 'Cause I'm going to shove it
down your throat!
779
00:32:40.125 --> 00:32:41.960
‐ There's certainly times
when I'd seen him
780
00:32:42.002 --> 00:32:43.170
say or do something on TV
where I'm like,
781
00:32:43.253 --> 00:32:45.380
"Oh, my gosh,
we're in for it now.
782
00:32:45.505 --> 00:32:48.049
This is gonna get worse
before it gets better."
783
00:32:48.175 --> 00:32:53.138
But I never asked him
to curtail or tone it down
784
00:32:53.221 --> 00:32:56.600
because that would hinder
his creativity.
785
00:32:56.683 --> 00:33:00.687
‐ People wanted to kill me.
786
00:33:00.812 --> 00:33:02.772
‐ I remember there was
a gentleman.
787
00:33:02.856 --> 00:33:04.399
I wasn't really paying
much attention,
788
00:33:04.524 --> 00:33:08.487
but Roddy went taking off
down this hallway.
789
00:33:08.570 --> 00:33:12.949
And the next thing,
I see them having some words
790
00:33:13.033 --> 00:33:16.286
and the police
got involved in it.
791
00:33:16.369 --> 00:33:20.540
He did have a big knife,
you know, like a Bowie knife.
792
00:33:20.665 --> 00:33:23.835
So finally the officer said,
"Mr. Piper, we've got him.
793
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:25.337
He's going to jail."
794
00:33:25.462 --> 00:33:28.882
He said, "Well, I just wanted to
have a couple seconds with him."
795
00:33:29.007 --> 00:33:30.300
The officer said, "Why?"
796
00:33:30.383 --> 00:33:33.011
And he said,
"Because he stabbed me."
797
00:33:33.094 --> 00:33:35.639
And Roddy took his thumb
off of his chest,
798
00:33:35.764 --> 00:33:39.851
and the blood started squirting
in the officer's face
799
00:33:39.976 --> 00:33:41.353
at every heartbeat.
800
00:33:41.436 --> 00:33:44.523
‐ It was going tsst‐tsst,
tsst‐tsst.
801
00:33:44.648 --> 00:33:46.024
‐ And I went, "Oh!"
802
00:33:46.107 --> 00:33:47.400
‐ Sergeant Slaughter
took me to the hospital
803
00:33:47.526 --> 00:33:49.986
and held the...
held the wound.
804
00:33:50.111 --> 00:33:51.321
‐ Doctor said,
"If that would've went
805
00:33:51.446 --> 00:33:56.576
one more 1/2 inch or less,
you'd be dead."
806
00:33:56.701 --> 00:33:57.994
‐ So what was it like?
807
00:33:58.119 --> 00:33:59.829
It was a living hell.
808
00:33:59.913 --> 00:34:03.333
‐ It wasn't just, "You're a
bad guy on TV," and that's it.
809
00:34:03.458 --> 00:34:04.876
It followed you everywhere.
810
00:34:05.001 --> 00:34:06.836
Dad was stabbed three times
in his life.
811
00:34:06.962 --> 00:34:08.588
Three times they actually
stabbed him,
812
00:34:08.672 --> 00:34:10.465
to the point where
he had a leather jacket
813
00:34:10.590 --> 00:34:13.385
that was Kevlar‐lined
and it was stab‐proof
814
00:34:13.510 --> 00:34:15.428
because he had been stabbed
so many times.
815
00:34:15.512 --> 00:34:21.643
‐ He was the next generation
to take it to the next level.
816
00:34:23.103 --> 00:34:25.981
‐ What a tremendous match
to have live.
817
00:34:26.106 --> 00:34:27.857
Millions of fans everywhere
818
00:34:27.983 --> 00:34:30.610
can see Greg Valentine and
Roddy Piper go at each other.
819
00:34:30.694 --> 00:34:36.324
‐ Me and Piper started out
a long, long, long journey.
820
00:34:36.408 --> 00:34:39.619
We'd probably wrestled
each other for a year.
821
00:34:39.703 --> 00:34:41.663
[crowd cheering]
822
00:34:41.746 --> 00:34:43.331
We just walloped each other.
823
00:34:43.373 --> 00:34:46.626
♪ ♪
824
00:34:46.710 --> 00:34:51.840
I took Piper's head and rammed
it into the turnbuckle.
825
00:34:51.965 --> 00:34:53.717
♪ ♪
826
00:34:53.842 --> 00:34:55.802
Every time I'd go out there,
827
00:34:55.927 --> 00:34:57.554
I'd beat on his ear.
828
00:34:57.637 --> 00:34:58.888
♪ ♪
829
00:34:59.014 --> 00:34:59.973
Blam!
830
00:35:00.015 --> 00:35:01.641
♪ ♪
831
00:35:01.725 --> 00:35:05.312
So I end up naming it
the Year of the Ear.
832
00:35:05.395 --> 00:35:07.272
‐ Watch him go to that ear.
833
00:35:07.355 --> 00:35:10.650
‐ And I'd laugh, "Ha, ha, ha,
the Year of the Ear."
834
00:35:10.775 --> 00:35:12.777
♪ ♪
835
00:35:12.861 --> 00:35:17.449
And then finally they want
to blow it off, end it.
836
00:35:17.532 --> 00:35:18.283
♪ ♪
837
00:35:18.366 --> 00:35:19.993
‐ What happened was
838
00:35:20.076 --> 00:35:22.162
Bruno Sammartino
and Larry Zbyszko
839
00:35:22.287 --> 00:35:24.831
did $500,000 in Shea Stadium,
840
00:35:24.873 --> 00:35:28.960
so it became a war of
the North against the South,
841
00:35:29.044 --> 00:35:30.420
so the South said,
"All right,
842
00:35:30.503 --> 00:35:32.464
we're gonna put on
the first pay‐per‐view ever."
843
00:35:32.589 --> 00:35:34.257
So they come to me
and they said,
844
00:35:34.341 --> 00:35:37.510
"I want you to make up
the meanest,
845
00:35:37.636 --> 00:35:42.223
nastiest, most brutal match
you can possibly think of."
846
00:35:42.349 --> 00:35:45.352
‐ And Piper came up
with this dog collar.
847
00:35:45.477 --> 00:35:48.396
‐ 40 pounds of chain.
I want you to check it out.
848
00:35:48.521 --> 00:35:49.939
You're gonna see something
849
00:35:50.023 --> 00:35:52.067
you never seen
in your life before.
850
00:35:52.192 --> 00:35:54.361
‐ Well, it was a great idea.
It was my birthday.
851
00:35:54.486 --> 00:35:56.988
Oh, what is this?
This is beautiful.
852
00:35:57.072 --> 00:35:58.323
They presented me
with this big cake.
853
00:35:58.406 --> 00:36:00.700
I love cake.
Wait a minute, what is this?
854
00:36:00.825 --> 00:36:04.579
I look at it and I see
some steel in there,
855
00:36:04.704 --> 00:36:08.166
and I reached down
and pulled out a dog collar.
856
00:36:08.249 --> 00:36:10.293
What? What are you doing?
857
00:36:10.377 --> 00:36:12.170
What are you trying
to do to me?
858
00:36:12.253 --> 00:36:15.548
He wants to have
a dog collar match.
859
00:36:15.674 --> 00:36:19.135
Piper was the best,
the best performer.
860
00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:22.514
Good at the mic.
Probably number one at the mic.
861
00:36:22.597 --> 00:36:25.141
Some people said he sounded
like Daffy Duck.
862
00:36:25.266 --> 00:36:27.602
I love Daffy Duck.
[laughs]
863
00:36:27.686 --> 00:36:29.604
‐ You're talking about
the biggest thing
864
00:36:29.688 --> 00:36:32.315
that's ever gonna happen
in the history of wrestling.
865
00:36:32.399 --> 00:36:33.650
[bell dings]
‐ Ladies and gentlemen,
866
00:36:33.775 --> 00:36:37.153
our next event of the evening
is a very special match.
867
00:36:37.237 --> 00:36:39.948
This is a collar match.
868
00:36:40.031 --> 00:36:41.866
‐ It was the very first
pay‐per‐view
869
00:36:41.991 --> 00:36:43.827
ever for wrestling.
870
00:36:43.952 --> 00:36:45.495
[bell dings]
871
00:36:45.620 --> 00:36:48.832
‐ Two men linked together
like this in mortal combat.
872
00:36:48.915 --> 00:36:50.458
‐ This is a strategy.
873
00:36:50.542 --> 00:36:52.544
This is what Piper
talked to me about.
874
00:36:52.669 --> 00:36:55.296
And then, see, I'm the first
one to get nailed.
875
00:36:55.422 --> 00:36:57.882
‐ Used exactly as a whip
as we had talked about.
876
00:36:58.007 --> 00:37:00.719
‐ You could use it
to batter the guy.
877
00:37:00.844 --> 00:37:04.222
Now he's gonna get me
in the teeth right there.
878
00:37:04.305 --> 00:37:06.224
I had to go to the dentist
the next day.
879
00:37:06.307 --> 00:37:07.600
‐ You can see the concern
880
00:37:07.684 --> 00:37:09.310
of the people
watching this match.
881
00:37:09.394 --> 00:37:11.146
They really don't know
what to expect
882
00:37:11.271 --> 00:37:12.981
when two men are going at it
like this.
883
00:37:13.106 --> 00:37:14.649
‐ Now I'm going for the ear.
884
00:37:14.774 --> 00:37:16.860
‐ Look at Valentine
pounding on him now.
885
00:37:16.985 --> 00:37:18.778
♪ ♪
886
00:37:18.862 --> 00:37:20.947
‐ It was a ridiculously
hard match.
887
00:37:21.030 --> 00:37:23.491
It was the toughest match,
probably, I've ever been in,
888
00:37:23.575 --> 00:37:25.201
especially with Valentine.
889
00:37:25.326 --> 00:37:26.369
‐ Used as a whip.
890
00:37:26.494 --> 00:37:28.204
Valentine on his knees.
891
00:37:28.329 --> 00:37:29.831
Hard blow to the top
of the head.
892
00:37:29.914 --> 00:37:33.460
‐ No, I'm not just selling;
I'm hurt.
893
00:37:33.585 --> 00:37:35.712
But it's all
for you wrestling fans.
894
00:37:35.837 --> 00:37:39.382
Giving you our love
in a strange way.
895
00:37:39.507 --> 00:37:41.551
[laughs]
896
00:37:41.634 --> 00:37:43.094
♪ ♪
897
00:37:43.178 --> 00:37:44.637
This is the end of it,
right there.
898
00:37:44.763 --> 00:37:46.222
He hog‐tied me.
899
00:37:46.306 --> 00:37:48.141
‐ He got the count.
900
00:37:48.266 --> 00:37:50.810
‐ I think he was the greatest
of all time...
901
00:37:50.935 --> 00:37:52.312
♪ ♪
902
00:37:52.353 --> 00:37:55.231
A really good‐hearted guy
903
00:37:55.356 --> 00:37:57.734
but a really tough
son of a bitch.
904
00:37:59.194 --> 00:38:00.487
‐ Valentine, you say‐‐
905
00:38:00.612 --> 00:38:03.698
you say your strategy
was to take away all my hearing.
906
00:38:03.823 --> 00:38:06.826
You see, what you forgot is,
you got one more ear to go.
907
00:38:06.951 --> 00:38:10.079
♪ ♪
908
00:38:10.205 --> 00:38:13.958
‐ When you look for, you know,
attributes of a bad guy,
909
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.961
you have to be fearless;
910
00:38:17.086 --> 00:38:19.005
you have to have
the gift of gab;
911
00:38:19.130 --> 00:38:22.175
you can say anything
that you want,
912
00:38:22.300 --> 00:38:23.968
even though you know
it's gonna be controversial;
913
00:38:24.052 --> 00:38:26.262
you have to be able to
communicate with the audience;
914
00:38:26.346 --> 00:38:30.308
and you have to a certain
attitude about you.
915
00:38:30.350 --> 00:38:33.645
And Roddy had all those
attributes and more.
916
00:38:33.728 --> 00:38:35.188
♪ ♪
917
00:38:35.313 --> 00:38:39.734
‐ Vince McMahon has these
plans of expanding nationally.
918
00:38:39.859 --> 00:38:42.904
What's the best way to expand
all over North America?
919
00:38:43.029 --> 00:38:47.033
You get the best wrestlers
from the individual territories
920
00:38:47.158 --> 00:38:51.037
and you bring them all to WWE.
921
00:38:51.162 --> 00:38:52.872
And Vince McMahon
wants it all.
922
00:38:52.997 --> 00:38:57.293
‐ I got a call from Roddy.
He says, "Mr. McMahon called."
923
00:38:57.335 --> 00:38:59.295
I said,
"Yeah, are you coming up?"
924
00:38:59.379 --> 00:39:00.380
He goes, "Yeah, he wants me
to come up."
925
00:39:00.505 --> 00:39:02.131
I said, "Come on up."
926
00:39:02.257 --> 00:39:08.471
Roddy was coming
to New York City.
927
00:39:08.555 --> 00:39:11.266
‐ Let me tell you
how to be Roddy Piper.
928
00:39:11.349 --> 00:39:13.351
[laughs]
Have a nice [bleep] day.
929
00:39:13.476 --> 00:39:14.686
Go [bleep] yourself.
930
00:39:14.769 --> 00:39:16.479
Gimme the microphone
and get out of the way.
931
00:39:16.604 --> 00:39:19.983
Bowlegged, big, fat,
ugly penguin.
932
00:39:20.066 --> 00:39:22.193
You know what?
You both stink!
933
00:39:22.277 --> 00:39:23.528
It's as simple as this:
934
00:39:23.653 --> 00:39:26.656
when RP talks, brother,
people listen.
935
00:39:27.198 --> 00:39:30.243
‐ And New York,
936
00:39:30.326 --> 00:39:33.121
New York is big guys,
937
00:39:33.204 --> 00:39:36.374
at least 250‐pounders,
6‐foot whatever.
938
00:39:36.457 --> 00:39:37.959
That's what I was.
939
00:39:38.042 --> 00:39:39.419
You know, Piper, later on,
940
00:39:39.502 --> 00:39:41.170
I guess he gained weight.
941
00:39:41.296 --> 00:39:43.631
But when he first came in,
he was smaller.
942
00:39:43.673 --> 00:39:45.633
‐ So if Roddy's not
the greatest physical specimen
943
00:39:45.717 --> 00:39:47.302
in the world,
then don't let him do that.
944
00:39:47.385 --> 00:39:51.639
Do what Roddy does best.
Let him be a talk show host.
945
00:39:51.764 --> 00:39:53.433
In a moment,
ladies and gentlemen,
946
00:39:53.516 --> 00:39:55.184
we're going to take you
to "Piper's Pit,"
947
00:39:55.310 --> 00:39:56.769
involving, of course,
the rather controversial
948
00:39:56.853 --> 00:40:00.148
and certainly opinionated
Roddy Piper.
949
00:40:00.231 --> 00:40:02.400
‐ They put up a backdrop,
950
00:40:02.525 --> 00:40:04.819
and it was basically
a wrestling talk show
951
00:40:04.903 --> 00:40:05.987
to stir the pot.
952
00:40:06.070 --> 00:40:08.156
‐ You're a lousy wrestler.
It's a simple as that.
953
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:10.408
‐ I might be a lousy wrestler,
but I'm still in there,
954
00:40:10.533 --> 00:40:12.493
and I'm not afraid
of nobody‐‐
955
00:40:13.745 --> 00:40:15.830
‐ It was "The Tonight Show"
956
00:40:15.914 --> 00:40:19.083
where the host could end up
beating up the guest.
957
00:40:19.167 --> 00:40:22.670
It was just the most
off‐the‐walls, unpredictable,
958
00:40:22.795 --> 00:40:25.798
amazing idea that ever happened
in television,
959
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:27.842
in my opinion.
I'm biased, but whatever.
960
00:40:27.926 --> 00:40:29.010
[laughs]
961
00:40:29.135 --> 00:40:31.179
‐ Is he supposed
to scare me?
962
00:40:31.304 --> 00:40:33.139
‐ You had to be ready.
963
00:40:33.181 --> 00:40:34.515
He was witty, smart.
964
00:40:34.641 --> 00:40:35.808
He was like the fastest gun
in the West.
965
00:40:35.892 --> 00:40:37.185
‐ Hello, peasants.
966
00:40:37.310 --> 00:40:38.978
‐ Don't call my father stupid.
967
00:40:39.062 --> 00:40:39.979
‐ Wait, wait, wait...
968
00:40:40.104 --> 00:40:41.564
How you doing, fatso?
969
00:40:41.689 --> 00:40:44.025
‐ He could take some guys
and make them look
970
00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:45.443
like heroes and superstars,
971
00:40:45.526 --> 00:40:47.820
or he could kind of like,
if he wanted to,
972
00:40:47.904 --> 00:40:50.365
he could chop you down to size
pretty quick.
973
00:40:50.490 --> 00:40:52.659
‐ I could slam you myself!
I don't care.
974
00:40:52.742 --> 00:40:55.119
You're saying John Studd
did at 520...
975
00:40:56.329 --> 00:40:59.832
[crowd cheering]
976
00:40:59.958 --> 00:41:01.292
‐ The most famous one,
of course,
977
00:41:01.376 --> 00:41:02.794
is the interview
with Jimmy Snuka.
978
00:41:02.835 --> 00:41:04.379
‐ There you go.
979
00:41:04.504 --> 00:41:06.673
‐ There were a couple
of coconuts,
980
00:41:06.798 --> 00:41:09.926
and one of them, you know, had
been what we call "gimmicked,"
981
00:41:10.009 --> 00:41:12.470
but that's not the one
Roddy chose.
982
00:41:12.595 --> 00:41:13.805
‐ Am I making fun of you?
983
00:41:13.846 --> 00:41:15.056
No, sir, no, sir.
984
00:41:21.145 --> 00:41:22.939
[indistinct shouting]
985
00:41:24.023 --> 00:41:25.984
‐ Nothing was scripted
on "Piper's Pit."
986
00:41:26.109 --> 00:41:27.402
‐ There, you sucker!
987
00:41:27.527 --> 00:41:29.278
‐ It was all off of the top
of Dad's head
988
00:41:29.362 --> 00:41:31.489
or something that he'd maybe
written down in a note before.
989
00:41:31.572 --> 00:41:33.324
And that's where
the magic happens.
990
00:41:33.449 --> 00:41:36.202
‐ Just when they think
they got the answers,
991
00:41:36.327 --> 00:41:37.996
I change the questions.
992
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.832
‐ He wasn't famous
for his technique
993
00:41:40.915 --> 00:41:43.042
or his type of wrestling
or how big his arms were
994
00:41:43.126 --> 00:41:44.460
or anything like that.
995
00:41:44.585 --> 00:41:45.753
He was just
an incredible talker
996
00:41:45.837 --> 00:41:47.505
and a guy that was taking
wrestling
997
00:41:47.588 --> 00:41:49.090
and telling a different story.
998
00:41:49.173 --> 00:41:53.052
‐ You do not throw rocks at
a man who's got a machine gun!
999
00:41:55.096 --> 00:41:57.223
[Cyndi Lauper's
"Girls Just Want to Have Fun"]
1000
00:41:57.348 --> 00:41:58.474
‐ Ladies and gentlemen,
1001
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.435
I want to introduce to you
1002
00:42:00.518 --> 00:42:02.478
the female entertainer
of the year,
1003
00:42:02.603 --> 00:42:03.688
Miss Cyndi Lauper!
1004
00:42:03.813 --> 00:42:06.482
[crowd cheers]
[laughs]
1005
00:42:06.566 --> 00:42:08.651
‐ Wrestling began
to work with MTV,
1006
00:42:08.735 --> 00:42:11.487
which was absolutely
red‐hot.
1007
00:42:11.612 --> 00:42:13.531
‐ You look wonderful, Cyndi.
1008
00:42:13.656 --> 00:42:17.452
‐ Captain Lou Albano
and Cyndi Lauper were friends,
1009
00:42:17.535 --> 00:42:20.496
and Cyndi Lauper
had put Lou Albano
1010
00:42:20.621 --> 00:42:23.124
in her "Girls Want to Have Fun"
video.
1011
00:42:23.207 --> 00:42:25.460
‐ I said, "Vince, I got
this guy named Dave Wolff
1012
00:42:25.585 --> 00:42:27.086
"that manages Cyndi Lauper,
1013
00:42:27.170 --> 00:42:29.088
"and they just did a video
with Albano
1014
00:42:29.172 --> 00:42:31.215
but now they wanna get involved
in the wrestling business."
1015
00:42:31.340 --> 00:42:32.925
And Vince was like, "Hmm, hmm."
1016
00:42:33.009 --> 00:42:35.595
‐ Dave thought it was going
to be good for Cyndi's career.
1017
00:42:35.678 --> 00:42:37.305
You know, here she's doing
this crossover
1018
00:42:37.430 --> 00:42:39.807
in this very unusual world.
1019
00:42:39.891 --> 00:42:42.393
It's like,
"What the hell is this?"
1020
00:42:42.518 --> 00:42:46.064
‐ Would you please welcome
Cyndi Lauper!
1021
00:42:46.189 --> 00:42:48.107
[crowd cheering]
1022
00:42:48.191 --> 00:42:54.280
‐ So now there's all this
attention, suddenly, to WWE.
1023
00:42:54.363 --> 00:42:55.990
People who were fashionable,
1024
00:42:56.074 --> 00:42:59.368
people who were in
the rock and roll world,
1025
00:42:59.494 --> 00:43:02.371
they're gonna start
watching WWE.
1026
00:43:02.455 --> 00:43:05.666
So they had this ceremony
in Madison Square Garden.
1027
00:43:05.750 --> 00:43:10.671
Lou Albano was one
of the primary forces
1028
00:43:10.797 --> 00:43:13.758
responsible for the
Rock 'n' Wrestling Connection,
1029
00:43:13.841 --> 00:43:16.761
and what better way
to honor a man
1030
00:43:16.844 --> 00:43:18.930
but to give him
a gold record?
1031
00:43:19.013 --> 00:43:21.808
‐ I'm so grateful
to receive this award.
1032
00:43:21.933 --> 00:43:24.102
‐ Now that's going
to provoke some jealousy,
1033
00:43:24.185 --> 00:43:27.480
and who is the most jealous
performer of all?
1034
00:43:27.522 --> 00:43:28.856
‐ There is Roddy Piper.
1035
00:43:28.981 --> 00:43:30.858
‐ This is beautiful, Cyndi.
1036
00:43:30.983 --> 00:43:33.319
‐ Maybe they have some kind
of presentation to make.
1037
00:43:33.444 --> 00:43:35.154
‐ I want to present you
with this.
1038
00:43:36.697 --> 00:43:38.116
‐ Oh! Look out!
1039
00:43:39.826 --> 00:43:42.120
Captain Lou Albano
clobbered!
1040
00:43:42.203 --> 00:43:48.459
‐ Roddy Piper shockingly kicks
the biggest pop star in America,
1041
00:43:48.543 --> 00:43:51.712
a female pop star,
in the head.
1042
00:43:51.838 --> 00:43:54.132
‐ David Wolff trying
to come to the rescue,
1043
00:43:54.215 --> 00:43:56.134
but he's no match!
1044
00:43:56.259 --> 00:43:59.095
Oh, he pile‐drived him
right down into the canvas.
1045
00:43:59.178 --> 00:44:02.890
‐ 20 minutes before
the match, I was asked,
1046
00:44:02.974 --> 00:44:05.560
"Do you think you can kick
Cyndi Lauper and not hurt her?"
1047
00:44:05.685 --> 00:44:07.478
by her manager.
1048
00:44:07.562 --> 00:44:10.314
I'm thinking,
"I hope you never manage me."
1049
00:44:10.439 --> 00:44:11.482
You know?
1050
00:44:11.566 --> 00:44:14.819
But when they saw that,
1051
00:44:14.944 --> 00:44:18.656
uh, Saddam Hussein
got nothing on me.
1052
00:44:18.739 --> 00:44:20.074
‐ Look out!
1053
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.827
The Hulkster's
hitting the ring!
1054
00:44:22.910 --> 00:44:24.745
‐ Cyndi wasn't a wrestler,
1055
00:44:24.871 --> 00:44:26.873
so she had to have somebody
defend her honor.
1056
00:44:26.998 --> 00:44:29.458
‐ He knew what he was doing.
He was stirring up the crowd
1057
00:44:29.542 --> 00:44:30.918
and he knew it
and he loved it.
1058
00:44:31.002 --> 00:44:32.295
All heels do.
1059
00:44:32.420 --> 00:44:34.755
‐ What a disgraceful display.
1060
00:44:34.839 --> 00:44:37.300
Cyndi, look at her.
1061
00:44:37.425 --> 00:44:39.093
Tears running down her face.
1062
00:44:39.177 --> 00:44:41.304
Hulkster's hot.
Everybody's hot.
1063
00:44:41.387 --> 00:44:45.349
Boy, he wishes he could have
got his hands on Roddy Piper.
1064
00:44:45.474 --> 00:44:47.101
‐ Every dog has its day,
1065
00:44:47.185 --> 00:44:48.477
you know what I'm talking
about?
1066
00:44:48.603 --> 00:44:50.313
And that one's
gonna get his.
1067
00:44:50.396 --> 00:44:53.107
‐ She expects me to sit there
and do nothing about her,
1068
00:44:53.191 --> 00:44:54.817
so I kick her
12 yards across the field.
1069
00:44:54.942 --> 00:44:56.319
‐ But she's a woman.
She's a woman.
1070
00:44:56.444 --> 00:44:57.528
‐ Just imagine it.
1071
00:44:57.653 --> 00:44:59.697
In about a four‐month period,
1072
00:44:59.822 --> 00:45:02.825
I had the kicked Cyndi Lauper
in the head.
1073
00:45:02.909 --> 00:45:05.703
I don't know how many guys
on Piper's Pit I had,
1074
00:45:05.786 --> 00:45:08.497
whatever I had done,
all in this very short time.
1075
00:45:08.623 --> 00:45:11.876
It was getting
really heated up.
1076
00:45:11.959 --> 00:45:14.128
I couldn't go anyplace.
I was fighting.
1077
00:45:14.212 --> 00:45:15.671
I had a family.
1078
00:45:15.796 --> 00:45:17.590
I was fighting
in and out of Denny's.
1079
00:45:17.673 --> 00:45:19.675
It was crazy.
1080
00:45:19.759 --> 00:45:23.554
‐ Roddy understood
that bringing in the musicians
1081
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:24.889
brings it to a whole
nother level,
1082
00:45:25.014 --> 00:45:26.515
so he was onboard for that.
1083
00:45:26.641 --> 00:45:29.227
‐ All right, let me just
step out this way a tad.
1084
00:45:29.352 --> 00:45:32.605
‐ But he found it very hard
being the old‐school person,
1085
00:45:32.688 --> 00:45:36.484
and he tried best he could
to cooperate.
1086
00:45:36.567 --> 00:45:37.985
It was never easy.
1087
00:45:38.110 --> 00:45:41.030
‐ And the last one
is, "MTV stinks"?
1088
00:45:41.113 --> 00:45:43.282
‐ Once we got hooked up
with MTV,
1089
00:45:43.366 --> 00:45:45.117
it took us to mainstream.
1090
00:45:45.201 --> 00:45:46.577
‐ MTV...
1091
00:45:46.702 --> 00:45:48.496
[laughs]
1092
00:45:48.579 --> 00:45:51.832
Music To Vomit by.
1093
00:45:51.916 --> 00:45:53.834
‐ Tonight,
ladies and gentlemen,
1094
00:45:53.918 --> 00:45:56.003
the War to Settle the Score,
1095
00:45:56.128 --> 00:45:57.797
the hottest ticket in town.
1096
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.674
‐ The Rock 'n' Wrestling
Connection
1097
00:45:59.799 --> 00:46:03.135
helped us change the look
of the business
1098
00:46:03.261 --> 00:46:06.389
to where we get families
and kids at ringside.
1099
00:46:06.514 --> 00:46:08.766
‐ This is broadcast on MTV.
1100
00:46:08.849 --> 00:46:11.269
This is big time.
1101
00:46:11.352 --> 00:46:14.146
‐ Everybody wants
to be a part of it.
1102
00:46:14.272 --> 00:46:15.856
Well, there's something
going on here.
1103
00:46:15.982 --> 00:46:18.651
I got to see what it is.
I got to check it out.
1104
00:46:18.734 --> 00:46:21.612
‐ Piper was
the ultimate villain,
1105
00:46:21.696 --> 00:46:23.531
so you want to have
the ultimate villain
1106
00:46:23.656 --> 00:46:25.783
against the ultimate hero.
1107
00:46:25.866 --> 00:46:27.493
‐ It was
the biggest thing ever.
1108
00:46:27.576 --> 00:46:29.912
It was Hogan and Piper
going at it.
1109
00:46:30.037 --> 00:46:31.831
‐ We have got action.
1110
00:46:31.956 --> 00:46:34.166
Oh! They're at it!
[bell dings]
1111
00:46:35.376 --> 00:46:36.794
It's under way.
1112
00:46:36.919 --> 00:46:38.254
Look at this,
back and forth.
1113
00:46:38.337 --> 00:46:40.381
Oh, raking the eyes
of Roddy Piper.
1114
00:46:40.464 --> 00:46:41.799
‐ When I ran into Piper,
1115
00:46:41.882 --> 00:46:43.926
he's the one that made
everything else possible.
1116
00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:47.346
‐ Oh! Dropped
the big elbow on him.
1117
00:46:47.430 --> 00:46:49.181
‐ I had to have an opponent,
1118
00:46:49.307 --> 00:46:52.476
and nobody had the air,
the arrogance, the attitude
1119
00:46:52.560 --> 00:46:54.979
to go to toe‐to‐toe with me
and not back down.
1120
00:46:55.062 --> 00:46:56.689
Without Piper,
we could have never,
1121
00:46:56.814 --> 00:46:58.190
never launched
into the stratosphere.
1122
00:46:58.316 --> 00:46:59.942
‐ Oh!
1123
00:47:00.026 --> 00:47:03.195
‐ Piper has two confederates:
1124
00:47:03.321 --> 00:47:07.116
Cowboy Bob Orton, Jr., and
Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff.
1125
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:08.826
‐ Orndorff going up
to the top rope!
1126
00:47:08.909 --> 00:47:11.579
‐ Oh, please.
‐ Look out!
1127
00:47:11.704 --> 00:47:13.122
‐ They interfere in the match.
1128
00:47:13.205 --> 00:47:15.416
‐ Cyndi Lauper
up on the apron.
1129
00:47:15.499 --> 00:47:18.127
Orndorff going around the side
rope now at Cyndi Lauper.
1130
00:47:18.210 --> 00:47:19.754
‐ What? Wait a minute.
Hold on!
1131
00:47:19.837 --> 00:47:21.547
‐ Mr. T over the railing!
1132
00:47:21.630 --> 00:47:22.965
‐ Oh, no!
1133
00:47:23.090 --> 00:47:25.718
‐ Here comes Mr. T,
ladies and gentlemen...
1134
00:47:25.843 --> 00:47:27.261
‐ Who was going
to save the day?
1135
00:47:27.345 --> 00:47:32.058
Well, Mr. T, the biggest TV star
in the United States.
1136
00:47:32.183 --> 00:47:36.145
Everybody in the country
knows Mr. T.
1137
00:47:36.228 --> 00:47:38.439
‐ They're inviting him
inside the ring.
1138
00:47:38.522 --> 00:47:40.232
‐ And so insert Mr. T.
1139
00:47:40.316 --> 00:47:43.486
It was Vince's way
to interject entertainment.
1140
00:47:43.569 --> 00:47:44.904
It was nothing but excitement
and electricity
1141
00:47:45.029 --> 00:47:46.530
and it sure worked.
1142
00:47:46.655 --> 00:47:47.948
‐ I don't know anything
1143
00:47:48.032 --> 00:47:49.075
about his background
as a wrestler...
1144
00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:50.493
‐ I used to be a bodyguard.
1145
00:47:50.618 --> 00:47:51.744
I used to be a bouncer
at a disco
1146
00:47:51.827 --> 00:47:53.162
and all that stuff.
1147
00:47:53.245 --> 00:47:55.581
You know, now, I knew
how to wrestle, you know,
1148
00:47:55.664 --> 00:47:57.541
and I wasn't no fluff.
1149
00:47:57.625 --> 00:48:00.836
So I stepped into the ring,
and Piper snuck up behind me.
1150
00:48:00.961 --> 00:48:02.380
‐ Piper nailed him
from behind.
1151
00:48:02.463 --> 00:48:03.881
‐ I didn't think it would
go down like that.
1152
00:48:04.006 --> 00:48:05.341
If I'd knew it'd go down
like that,
1153
00:48:05.466 --> 00:48:06.926
I would've have did
something else.
1154
00:48:07.009 --> 00:48:08.302
So therefore I was so...
1155
00:48:08.386 --> 00:48:09.720
I guess I can say pissed.
1156
00:48:09.804 --> 00:48:11.680
‐ All hell has broken loose.
1157
00:48:11.806 --> 00:48:13.557
‐ Roddy was
the ultimate bad guy.
1158
00:48:13.682 --> 00:48:16.602
He sold it. He practiced it.
He was good at what he did.
1159
00:48:16.685 --> 00:48:18.646
‐ We've got a madhouse here.
1160
00:48:18.771 --> 00:48:20.606
‐ Security holding
everyone back.
1161
00:48:20.689 --> 00:48:23.275
‐ And it just went‐‐it just
went berserk, you know?
1162
00:48:23.359 --> 00:48:24.693
It was‐‐
[laughs]
1163
00:48:24.819 --> 00:48:26.654
I laugh at it now
'cause it's so old,
1164
00:48:26.737 --> 00:48:28.155
I think about it,
you know.
1165
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.199
It reminded me
of the Keystone Cops
1166
00:48:30.282 --> 00:48:31.534
'cause everybody
was fighting.
1167
00:48:31.617 --> 00:48:33.661
‐ What happened to our match?
1168
00:48:33.786 --> 00:48:35.538
‐ We don't have
a match anymore.
1169
00:48:35.621 --> 00:48:36.539
It's pandemonium.
1170
00:48:36.664 --> 00:48:38.082
‐ Well, back then,
1171
00:48:38.165 --> 00:48:39.875
we were still really
protecting the business.
1172
00:48:39.959 --> 00:48:41.794
"Should we tell the cops
what we're doing or not?"
1173
00:48:41.836 --> 00:48:43.587
And the standard mode was,
1174
00:48:43.671 --> 00:48:45.047
"Oh, don't tell anybody
anything."
1175
00:48:45.131 --> 00:48:46.757
Let's just get
their natural reaction.
1176
00:48:46.841 --> 00:48:48.926
‐ All of a sudden,
some policemen
1177
00:48:49.009 --> 00:48:50.719
came in the ring on me.
1178
00:48:50.803 --> 00:48:54.306
There's a cop with a gun,
and here the rest of 'em come.
1179
00:48:54.390 --> 00:48:55.766
‐ Piper was fighting the cops
and everything.
1180
00:48:55.850 --> 00:48:58.185
It was just insanity.
1181
00:48:58.310 --> 00:49:01.147
‐ Hulk Hogan
was the biggest hero.
1182
00:49:01.230 --> 00:49:02.148
♪ ♪
1183
00:49:02.273 --> 00:49:05.985
Roddy Piper was the most
detested villain.
1184
00:49:06.110 --> 00:49:10.823
And now we are ready
to start our road
1185
00:49:10.906 --> 00:49:16.912
to the first WrestleMania.
1186
00:49:17.037 --> 00:49:18.914
‐ Okay, Ariel, let's go.
Whoo, whoo, whoo!
1187
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:20.499
Come on, Ariel.
1188
00:49:20.583 --> 00:49:21.834
‐ She's tired.
1189
00:49:21.917 --> 00:49:24.378
There's the proud papa.
1190
00:49:24.503 --> 00:49:26.338
Papa Piper.
1191
00:49:26.464 --> 00:49:29.800
‐ My dad often
would say things like,
1192
00:49:29.925 --> 00:49:30.968
"I can't imagine
how hard it is
1193
00:49:31.093 --> 00:49:32.136
to be Roddy Piper's kid."
1194
00:49:32.261 --> 00:49:36.098
‐ Here comes Roddy and Ariel.
1195
00:49:36.182 --> 00:49:38.642
‐ He felt guilty, like he was
some way a bad parent
1196
00:49:38.767 --> 00:49:40.811
because his career was,
in some way,
1197
00:49:40.936 --> 00:49:42.146
affecting our lives.
1198
00:49:42.229 --> 00:49:44.148
[laughter and
indistinct chatter]
1199
00:49:46.525 --> 00:49:49.445
‐ When we were starting out
as a young family,
1200
00:49:49.528 --> 00:49:52.698
he came to me and said,
1201
00:49:52.823 --> 00:49:54.283
"I really do not
want our children
1202
00:49:54.366 --> 00:49:56.660
"to grow up in a hundred
different places.
1203
00:49:56.744 --> 00:49:58.412
I want them to have roots."
1204
00:49:58.537 --> 00:50:00.414
You sure are pretty.
1205
00:50:00.498 --> 00:50:03.542
'Cause he never felt like
he had a home.
1206
00:50:05.002 --> 00:50:06.629
We chose to live
in the country...
1207
00:50:06.712 --> 00:50:07.963
‐ [laughing]
1208
00:50:08.088 --> 00:50:09.673
‐ And have a lot of land
around us.
1209
00:50:09.798 --> 00:50:12.134
It was a safe zone.
1210
00:50:12.218 --> 00:50:16.055
‐ We lived on a 10‐acre ranch
in the middle of nowhere,
1211
00:50:16.180 --> 00:50:17.598
end of a gravel road,
1212
00:50:17.681 --> 00:50:22.686
and we really kept
to just that ranch.
1213
00:50:22.770 --> 00:50:25.022
‐ Good‐bye.
With any kind of luck,
1214
00:50:25.147 --> 00:50:27.274
she'll keep going and we won't
have to feed her.
1215
00:50:27.358 --> 00:50:28.526
[laughs]
1216
00:50:28.651 --> 00:50:30.361
‐ We wanted to be isolated
1217
00:50:30.486 --> 00:50:33.322
because we had actual stalkers
who would come
1218
00:50:33.447 --> 00:50:36.951
and try and break into our house
or be on our property.
1219
00:50:38.035 --> 00:50:42.039
‐ We did not go to the malls.
We did not go to the movies.
1220
00:50:42.164 --> 00:50:45.000
I must've gotten 30 fights
in one year,
1221
00:50:45.084 --> 00:50:46.835
just because people wanted
1222
00:50:46.961 --> 00:50:49.255
to test their moxie
against me.
1223
00:50:50.005 --> 00:50:51.215
[dog barks]
1224
00:50:51.298 --> 00:50:54.009
♪ ♪
1225
00:50:54.134 --> 00:50:56.220
‐ And this kind of thing
is real life.
1226
00:50:56.303 --> 00:50:57.513
♪ ♪
1227
00:50:57.638 --> 00:51:00.808
This is the kind of thing
that makes a family.
1228
00:51:00.849 --> 00:51:02.560
♪ ♪
1229
00:51:02.685 --> 00:51:04.895
It's a great way of nature,
1230
00:51:04.979 --> 00:51:07.147
just teaching a family
how to be a family
1231
00:51:07.231 --> 00:51:08.399
and stay together.
1232
00:51:08.482 --> 00:51:11.110
♪ ♪
1233
00:51:13.404 --> 00:51:17.658
‐ I had a meeting with a small
room full of our executives,
1234
00:51:17.700 --> 00:51:18.993
and I said,
1235
00:51:19.076 --> 00:51:20.119
"There is a Super Bowl,
you know.
1236
00:51:20.202 --> 00:51:21.328
There's a World Series."
1237
00:51:21.412 --> 00:51:22.621
There's this, there's that.
1238
00:51:22.705 --> 00:51:24.164
It was really common sense.
1239
00:51:24.290 --> 00:51:26.792
So why not have
one of your own?
1240
00:51:26.875 --> 00:51:28.794
Call it WrestleMania.
1241
00:51:28.877 --> 00:51:30.421
We would not have
WrestleMania I
1242
00:51:30.504 --> 00:51:32.339
had it not been for Roddy
because you have to have,
1243
00:51:32.464 --> 00:51:35.175
again, a strong antagonist
to go with the protagonist.
1244
00:51:35.301 --> 00:51:37.469
‐ Check this out, dude.
Check that out.
1245
00:51:37.511 --> 00:51:39.096
‐ You have to have
good stories
1246
00:51:39.179 --> 00:51:41.056
and you have to have
bold characters
1247
00:51:41.181 --> 00:51:42.683
and larger‐than‐life
individuals,
1248
00:51:42.766 --> 00:51:44.351
and Roddy was all of that.
1249
00:51:44.476 --> 00:51:47.271
So I knew I had Roddy,
I knew I had Hogan and Mr. T.
1250
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:49.815
It was like,
that was gonna work.
1251
00:51:49.857 --> 00:51:53.277
‐ How does it feel to be
portraying someone like myself?
1252
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:54.820
‐ Well, you ain't nothing, man.
1253
00:51:54.945 --> 00:51:56.196
‐ Oh, oh, why?
1254
00:51:56.322 --> 00:51:58.449
Oh, because I don't have
a chair with my name on it?
1255
00:51:58.532 --> 00:52:01.118
‐ Roddy Piper really did not
like Mr. T.
1256
00:52:01.201 --> 00:52:03.537
‐ Don't look at‐‐
‐ Hey, hey, hey.
1257
00:52:03.662 --> 00:52:05.164
[overlapping shouting]
1258
00:52:05.289 --> 00:52:08.959
‐ In those days, you know,
you really paid some dues
1259
00:52:09.001 --> 00:52:11.253
to be in the main event.
1260
00:52:11.337 --> 00:52:15.215
Then Mr. T walks in, not even
having a match anywhere,
1261
00:52:15.341 --> 00:52:17.843
and it's like, "What right
does he have to be in my ring
1262
00:52:17.968 --> 00:52:18.969
in the main event?"
1263
00:52:19.094 --> 00:52:20.471
‐ You want to get in there,
brother,
1264
00:52:20.596 --> 00:52:22.431
and you want to try
some fighting, huh?
1265
00:52:22.514 --> 00:52:26.143
‐ We'd never brought in
somebody from the outside,
1266
00:52:26.226 --> 00:52:27.519
and one of the biggest
problems I had
1267
00:52:27.603 --> 00:52:30.564
was the barbaric mindset
of Piper and Orndorff.
1268
00:52:30.689 --> 00:52:32.399
‐ You're looking at someone
that will...
1269
00:52:32.483 --> 00:52:33.942
‐ "He's an actor.
He's not into wrestling.
1270
00:52:34.026 --> 00:52:34.985
We're just gonna
break his legs."
1271
00:52:35.069 --> 00:52:36.445
I said, "Guys, please."
1272
00:52:36.528 --> 00:52:38.364
‐ How can I say it
without sounding cocky?
1273
00:52:38.447 --> 00:52:41.200
They didn't understand
that bringing me in
1274
00:52:41.325 --> 00:52:43.160
would broaden they thing
1275
00:52:43.285 --> 00:52:45.579
because, basically,
you know, Vince,
1276
00:52:45.704 --> 00:52:47.539
being the pioneer
that he is, he said,
1277
00:52:47.665 --> 00:52:49.958
"Wow, we gonna broaden,
bring it to the world."
1278
00:52:50.042 --> 00:52:51.460
‐ You come on down, T.
1279
00:52:51.543 --> 00:52:54.672
We'll put an X
where the T should be.
1280
00:52:54.797 --> 00:52:57.716
‐ Roddy hated the thought
of a Mr. T
1281
00:52:57.841 --> 00:52:59.802
coming into his arena.
1282
00:52:59.927 --> 00:53:03.013
It's an insult. It's a slap
in the face to the business.
1283
00:53:03.138 --> 00:53:05.015
‐ I had these two guys
1284
00:53:05.140 --> 00:53:06.725
that had this
old‐school mentality,
1285
00:53:06.850 --> 00:53:11.313
and plus I got this guy who's
got this real edgy attitude.
1286
00:53:11.397 --> 00:53:12.940
You know, he's always talking
in the third person.
1287
00:53:13.023 --> 00:53:14.316
"Mr. T don't put up with that."
1288
00:53:14.441 --> 00:53:15.818
‐ Mr. T ain't no powder puff,
1289
00:53:15.901 --> 00:53:17.903
you had to understand,
you know.
1290
00:53:18.028 --> 00:53:20.489
‐ They didn't want to lose
to Mr. T
1291
00:53:20.614 --> 00:53:22.616
because he's not
a "real wrestler."
1292
00:53:22.700 --> 00:53:24.326
[no audible dialogue]
1293
00:53:24.410 --> 00:53:27.579
‐ There I am, the hottest heel
they've ever had,
1294
00:53:27.705 --> 00:53:31.333
and now they want me
to take a dive.
1295
00:53:31.417 --> 00:53:33.460
I said, "I ain't doing it."
1296
00:53:33.544 --> 00:53:35.421
‐ I was kind of like
the babysitter,
1297
00:53:35.504 --> 00:53:37.339
the moderator,
the peacekeeper,
1298
00:53:37.423 --> 00:53:39.550
and I was ready to have
a nervous breakdown.
1299
00:53:39.675 --> 00:53:43.887
‐ The wrestling extravaganza
of all time, WrestleMania.
1300
00:53:44.012 --> 00:53:45.180
‐ The people knew
1301
00:53:45.305 --> 00:53:47.766
the wrestling business
was changing that night.
1302
00:53:47.850 --> 00:53:52.646
There was a fever pitch
in Madison Square Garden.
1303
00:53:52.771 --> 00:53:54.398
‐ Piper's gonna get it.
‐ Get what?
1304
00:53:54.523 --> 00:53:55.941
‐ Get his butt kicked.
1305
00:53:56.024 --> 00:53:57.818
♪ ♪
1306
00:53:57.901 --> 00:54:02.489
‐ What do you do to show
the world what this product is
1307
00:54:02.614 --> 00:54:04.908
and what it will be, you know,
in a really big way?
1308
00:54:04.992 --> 00:54:07.536
Liberace, how the hell
doe he fit into any of this?
1309
00:54:07.661 --> 00:54:09.496
He doesn't.
That's why I had him.
1310
00:54:09.580 --> 00:54:13.333
This is what sports
entertainment is all about.
1311
00:54:13.417 --> 00:54:15.544
It was everything we had,
we threw it in,
1312
00:54:15.669 --> 00:54:17.838
and let's roll the dice
and do it in a big way.
1313
00:54:17.921 --> 00:54:19.965
Everything I had
was on the line.
1314
00:54:20.048 --> 00:54:21.133
[playing
spirited bagpipe music]
1315
00:54:21.175 --> 00:54:22.801
‐ There he is.
1316
00:54:22.885 --> 00:54:23.969
[crowd booing]
1317
00:54:24.052 --> 00:54:25.596
‐ Rowdy Roddy Piper...
1318
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.349
‐ Here is what is arguably
the turning point
1319
00:54:29.475 --> 00:54:32.895
of the WWE
in just so many ways.
1320
00:54:32.978 --> 00:54:34.980
Roddy was very stubborn,
1321
00:54:35.063 --> 00:54:37.232
but you're about
to make more money
1322
00:54:37.357 --> 00:54:39.985
than you ever had
in your entire lifetime.
1323
00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:41.653
[bell dings]
1324
00:54:41.779 --> 00:54:44.323
‐ There goes the bell.
Look at the bell by Liberace.
1325
00:54:44.406 --> 00:54:45.991
‐ Fans are chanting T, T, T.
1326
00:54:46.116 --> 00:54:47.159
And they're going
nose‐to‐nose.
1327
00:54:47.201 --> 00:54:48.744
‐ Lookit, nose‐to‐nose.
1328
00:54:48.869 --> 00:54:51.663
‐ Mr. T and Rowdy Roddy Piper,
nose‐to‐nose...
1329
00:54:51.789 --> 00:54:54.917
‐ Roddy was smart enough
to know,
1330
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:56.210
"Yeah, I'm gonna do business,
1331
00:54:56.293 --> 00:54:57.377
and I'm gonna make it
look right.
1332
00:54:57.461 --> 00:54:59.797
You don't have to like it.
1333
00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:01.840
‐ They're exchanging‐‐oh!
1334
00:55:01.965 --> 00:55:04.802
Piper now goes behind quickly,
takes him down to the canvas.
1335
00:55:04.885 --> 00:55:08.514
‐ At a certain point,
Roddy Piper instructs Mr. T,
1336
00:55:08.597 --> 00:55:11.141
"Pick me up
in a fireman's carry."
1337
00:55:11.225 --> 00:55:13.811
‐ Oh, nice fireman's carry.
1338
00:55:13.936 --> 00:55:15.312
‐ Even though he didn't want
1339
00:55:15.395 --> 00:55:17.481
Mr. T
to take advantage of him,
1340
00:55:17.606 --> 00:55:20.943
Roddy Piper knows
how to sell himself,
1341
00:55:21.026 --> 00:55:23.695
and he knows that's the photo
1342
00:55:23.821 --> 00:55:25.656
that will go
all over the world.
1343
00:55:25.739 --> 00:55:27.324
♪ ♪
1344
00:55:27.366 --> 00:55:28.867
‐ What's he gonna
do with him?
1345
00:55:28.951 --> 00:55:31.411
Oh, drops him like
yesterday's newspaper.
1346
00:55:31.537 --> 00:55:32.955
‐ You need to make Mr. T
the hero.
1347
00:55:33.038 --> 00:55:34.498
This is what this is all about.
1348
00:55:34.581 --> 00:55:35.999
‐ Mr. T now
in the wrong corner.
1349
00:55:36.124 --> 00:55:37.626
Here comes the Hulk.
1350
00:55:37.751 --> 00:55:39.294
‐ Mr. T should have beaten
one of those guys
1351
00:55:39.378 --> 00:55:40.879
right in the middle
of the ring,
1352
00:55:41.004 --> 00:55:42.297
preferably Piper.
1353
00:55:42.381 --> 00:55:43.882
‐ As Piper
was about to lower‐‐
1354
00:55:44.007 --> 00:55:45.425
Look out!
1355
00:55:45.509 --> 00:55:48.220
‐ But instead,
they had to have Orton
1356
00:55:48.303 --> 00:55:49.930
jump off the top rope
with a cast.
1357
00:55:50.013 --> 00:55:53.684
It hits Orndorff on the head
just so we could get a win.
1358
00:55:53.809 --> 00:55:55.936
Piper didn't want
to do the job,
1359
00:55:56.019 --> 00:55:57.855
even in WrestleMania.
1360
00:55:57.980 --> 00:55:59.982
You're the bad guy.
You're supposed to get beat.
1361
00:56:00.107 --> 00:56:01.608
That's what bad guys do.
1362
00:56:01.692 --> 00:56:03.026
♪ ♪
1363
00:56:03.110 --> 00:56:05.863
He was so protective
about protecting Roddy Piper,
1364
00:56:05.988 --> 00:56:09.908
and he didn't realize if
you just listen to our opinion,
1365
00:56:09.992 --> 00:56:12.536
I think you might find things
a lot easier.
1366
00:56:12.661 --> 00:56:13.996
♪ ♪
1367
00:56:14.121 --> 00:56:16.164
But Piper didn't like me,
you know, at all.
1368
00:56:16.248 --> 00:56:18.959
I mean, there was no rapport
at all with him and I.
1369
00:56:19.042 --> 00:56:20.377
It was strictly business.
1370
00:56:20.502 --> 00:56:22.129
We didn't talk
unless we had to.
1371
00:56:22.254 --> 00:56:25.299
But later on in life, Piper and
I got to be real good friends.
1372
00:56:25.382 --> 00:56:26.884
I said, "You screwed up, man.
1373
00:56:27.009 --> 00:56:28.719
"You could've been one of
the richest guys I've ever met,
1374
00:56:28.802 --> 00:56:31.346
but you wouldn't let me
beat you."
1375
00:56:31.471 --> 00:56:32.514
So he goes, "Damn it.
I'm so pissed.
1376
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:33.891
I wish we would've talked."
1377
00:56:34.016 --> 00:56:36.602
I said, "I tried to talk.
You wouldn't talk to me."
1378
00:56:38.061 --> 00:56:39.897
‐ Hulk Hogan, Mr. T,
1379
00:56:40.022 --> 00:56:43.275
kind of taking the center
stage of that whole event,
1380
00:56:43.358 --> 00:56:45.402
he always felt
1381
00:56:45.485 --> 00:56:46.945
they couldn't have been
the center stage
1382
00:56:47.029 --> 00:56:48.989
without him being there,
being the bad guy.
1383
00:56:49.031 --> 00:56:52.993
And he knew his worth.
He knew his worth.
1384
00:56:53.035 --> 00:56:59.333
‐ It's things like that that
made Roddy the ultimate rebel.
1385
00:56:59.374 --> 00:57:02.169
♪ ♪
1386
00:57:02.294 --> 00:57:04.046
‐ For myself to stay on top,
1387
00:57:04.171 --> 00:57:07.299
I needed to get out
of the business completely,
1388
00:57:07.341 --> 00:57:09.635
do something
in another form.
1389
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:11.219
♪ ♪
1390
00:57:11.345 --> 00:57:12.763
‐ I spent a lot of time
with Roddy
1391
00:57:12.846 --> 00:57:14.973
and had a lot
of big talks with Roddy
1392
00:57:15.057 --> 00:57:16.308
about that time period,
1393
00:57:16.391 --> 00:57:17.976
and I remember Roddy
basically telling me
1394
00:57:18.101 --> 00:57:22.522
that you got to have something
else after wrestling.
1395
00:57:22.606 --> 00:57:23.649
"What are you gonna do
after that?"
1396
00:57:23.732 --> 00:57:25.317
And he's like, "Hollywood."
1397
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:29.154
♪ ♪
1398
00:57:29.237 --> 00:57:33.241
‐ Roddy had a quality
that I could use in a movie.
1399
00:57:33.325 --> 00:57:35.410
‐ Well, first of all, he didn't
have a pretty‐boy face
1400
00:57:35.535 --> 00:57:36.995
like a Hollywood actor,
1401
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:40.332
and this role required him
to be kind of a working man.
1402
00:57:40.457 --> 00:57:42.542
‐ You, you're okay.
1403
00:57:42.626 --> 00:57:45.212
This one?
Real [bleep] ugly.
1404
00:57:45.337 --> 00:57:48.840
‐ The character of John Nada
is really based a lot on Roddy
1405
00:57:48.924 --> 00:57:50.842
and his past
and what he'd been through,
1406
00:57:50.968 --> 00:57:53.220
and he added a lot
of color to that.
1407
00:57:53.303 --> 00:57:56.098
He gave me a notebook.
1408
00:57:56.181 --> 00:57:58.600
Now, this notebook were
written all these phrases
1409
00:57:58.684 --> 00:58:00.811
and ideas he had
for interviews.
1410
00:58:00.894 --> 00:58:03.313
♪ ♪
1411
00:58:03.438 --> 00:58:04.898
And right there,
sitting there, was,
1412
00:58:04.982 --> 00:58:06.650
"I've come here to chew
bubble gum and kick ass,
1413
00:58:06.692 --> 00:58:09.069
and I'm all out
of bubble gum."
1414
00:58:09.194 --> 00:58:11.113
I went, "That's a great line.
I could use that."
1415
00:58:11.196 --> 00:58:16.368
‐ I have come here to chew
bubble gum and kick ass,
1416
00:58:16.493 --> 00:58:18.996
and I'm all out of bubble gum.
1417
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:20.080
‐ Oh, [bleep]!
[gunshot]
1418
00:58:22.708 --> 00:58:26.294
‐ That's all his idea.
That was all from his brain.
1419
00:58:26.420 --> 00:58:29.214
‐ I've never felt safer
in my life
1420
00:58:29.339 --> 00:58:32.217
than fighting
with Roddy Piper.
1421
00:58:32.342 --> 00:58:34.219
[both grunting]
1422
00:58:35.429 --> 00:58:36.930
I believe that fight scene
1423
00:58:37.014 --> 00:58:39.474
lasts literally about
seven minutes onscreen.
1424
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:41.893
[both grunting and shouting]
1425
00:58:42.019 --> 00:58:43.186
‐ We really, you know,
1426
00:58:43.270 --> 00:58:45.063
choreographed the [bleep]
out of it.
1427
00:58:45.188 --> 00:58:48.567
But there was one time
we were both so hyped up‐‐
1428
00:58:48.692 --> 00:58:50.027
I was especially hyped up‐‐
1429
00:58:50.152 --> 00:58:52.404
and that first punch,
1430
00:58:52.487 --> 00:58:54.031
I hit him right in the face.
1431
00:58:54.156 --> 00:58:56.825
And it was‐‐and I'd be like,
"Oh, [bleep]. Oh, [bleep]."
1432
00:58:56.950 --> 00:58:58.493
And he's like,
"Come on, man. Don't worry.
1433
00:58:58.618 --> 00:59:01.121
"Come on, snap out of it.
Come on, let's start again."
1434
00:59:01.204 --> 00:59:02.497
And he was great.
1435
00:59:02.581 --> 00:59:06.209
‐ Brother, life's a bitch.
1436
00:59:07.461 --> 00:59:09.129
Don't feel sorry for me.
1437
00:59:09.212 --> 00:59:10.714
My name's John Nada.
1438
00:59:10.839 --> 00:59:12.049
‐ [laughs]
1439
00:59:12.132 --> 00:59:13.925
A year and a half
we were in Los Angeles
1440
00:59:14.009 --> 00:59:15.469
while he was filming
those movies.
1441
00:59:15.594 --> 00:59:16.970
He brought the scripts home,
1442
00:59:17.054 --> 00:59:18.555
and we'd go over them.
1443
00:59:18.680 --> 00:59:22.934
He was always leaving
to go to acting classes.
1444
00:59:23.894 --> 00:59:26.855
I mean, it was‐‐it was
a whole nother lifestyle.
1445
00:59:29.524 --> 00:59:31.568
‐ It was not
like it was today,
1446
00:59:31.651 --> 00:59:33.320
where it's a lot more flexible
1447
00:59:33.403 --> 00:59:35.447
for wrestlers
to also do acting.
1448
00:59:35.530 --> 00:59:37.324
Back then, it was,
you didn't do that.
1449
00:59:37.449 --> 00:59:39.618
It was not an easy road to be,
1450
00:59:39.701 --> 00:59:42.329
really, the first wrestler
to go into film.
1451
00:59:42.412 --> 00:59:43.413
‐ When Vince
was booking everything,
1452
00:59:43.538 --> 00:59:44.915
without Piper's name,
1453
00:59:45.040 --> 00:59:47.709
it was real hard for us
to make that transition
1454
00:59:47.793 --> 00:59:49.836
'cause Piper was so hot
at the time.
1455
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:51.546
‐ If Roddy wanted to go off
and do film,
1456
00:59:51.671 --> 00:59:53.048
what am I going to say?
1457
00:59:53.173 --> 00:59:54.800
No, don't take advantage
of that opportunity?
1458
00:59:54.925 --> 00:59:56.843
As long as I know
that he's coming back.
1459
00:59:56.968 --> 00:59:59.679
‐ He loved acting
and he loved the work of it
1460
00:59:59.805 --> 01:00:01.681
but he felt alienated
1461
01:00:01.807 --> 01:00:03.558
and didn't really have
a lot in common
1462
01:00:03.683 --> 01:00:06.103
with a lot of the people
in Hollywood.
1463
01:00:06.186 --> 01:00:09.022
‐ The only people
that can understand me
1464
01:00:09.147 --> 01:00:10.357
are other wrestlers.
1465
01:00:10.482 --> 01:00:12.859
♪ ♪
1466
01:00:12.984 --> 01:00:15.821
I needed to come back
to the WWE...
1467
01:00:15.946 --> 01:00:17.489
♪ ♪
1468
01:00:17.572 --> 01:00:19.032
and walk back in
the front door.
1469
01:00:19.157 --> 01:00:25.163
♪ ♪
1470
01:00:25.288 --> 01:00:27.624
‐ Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1471
01:00:27.707 --> 01:00:32.629
‐ When I came back into
wrestling from Hollywood,
1472
01:00:32.671 --> 01:00:37.217
bringing that credibility back
was huge.
1473
01:00:38.844 --> 01:00:41.179
‐ As far as Roddy's
standpoint is,
1474
01:00:41.263 --> 01:00:42.597
well, you had to bring me back
1475
01:00:42.681 --> 01:00:44.015
because I was the greatest
star of all time.
1476
01:00:44.141 --> 01:00:47.853
You know, that would be Roddy's
point of view.
1477
01:00:47.978 --> 01:00:49.563
But it didn't matter
what you want.
1478
01:00:49.688 --> 01:00:51.606
You give the audience
what they want.
1479
01:00:51.690 --> 01:00:54.484
They want Roddy to come back,
well, let's give them Roddy.
1480
01:00:54.568 --> 01:00:57.362
‐ Standing ovation here
for Rowdy Roddy.
1481
01:00:57.487 --> 01:00:58.989
‐ And after a respite,
1482
01:00:59.072 --> 01:01:00.657
you know,
Roddy's ready to come back.
1483
01:01:00.740 --> 01:01:02.409
Great, he's fresh.
He's new all over again.
1484
01:01:02.534 --> 01:01:03.660
Different set of opponents.
1485
01:01:03.785 --> 01:01:05.370
‐ Mr. Downey?
1486
01:01:05.495 --> 01:01:07.539
‐ Yes, Mr. Piper?
1487
01:01:07.664 --> 01:01:10.083
‐ Don't blow no more smoke
in my face.
1488
01:01:10.167 --> 01:01:11.376
‐ Morton Downey, Jr.,
was a talk show host.
1489
01:01:11.459 --> 01:01:12.711
You know, he was a big mouth.
1490
01:01:12.836 --> 01:01:14.462
And Roddy had this
impeccable timing.
1491
01:01:14.588 --> 01:01:17.799
So when Downey blows smoke
in Roddy's face,
1492
01:01:17.924 --> 01:01:21.303
it's like,
"One, two, three, four."
1493
01:01:21.386 --> 01:01:23.054
Instead of
immediately doing it,
1494
01:01:23.138 --> 01:01:24.973
"Watch something's going
to happen now."
1495
01:01:25.056 --> 01:01:26.141
And then it does.
1496
01:01:26.224 --> 01:01:27.350
‐ Ya‐ha!
1497
01:01:27.434 --> 01:01:28.393
[laughs]
1498
01:01:30.353 --> 01:01:31.938
‐ He was so creative.
1499
01:01:32.022 --> 01:01:34.316
‐ I think the fire is out,
Jess.
1500
01:01:34.399 --> 01:01:35.859
‐ Very quick on his feet.
1501
01:01:35.984 --> 01:01:37.068
♪ ♪
1502
01:01:37.194 --> 01:01:40.655
But at the same time,
he was very opinionated
1503
01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:42.991
and wanted someone
to listen to his opinion.
1504
01:01:43.116 --> 01:01:45.327
I listened to a lot
of Roddy's ideas,
1505
01:01:45.452 --> 01:01:47.120
some of which were really
dead on
1506
01:01:47.204 --> 01:01:49.998
and some of which were,
whew, wow, that was out there.
1507
01:01:50.081 --> 01:01:51.958
‐ They say you shouldn't blow
your own horn.
1508
01:01:52.042 --> 01:01:53.210
Don't they say that?
Why not?
1509
01:01:53.293 --> 01:01:55.670
‐ You are the most
arrogant individual
1510
01:01:55.795 --> 01:01:57.297
I think we've ever had.
1511
01:01:57.380 --> 01:01:58.840
‐ I believe Roddy once
described our relationship
1512
01:01:58.965 --> 01:02:01.468
as a love‐hate relationship.
1513
01:02:01.509 --> 01:02:02.969
We never fought.
1514
01:02:03.094 --> 01:02:05.680
There were a couple times
when it was very close,
1515
01:02:05.764 --> 01:02:07.766
but that was the way it was
back in those days.
1516
01:02:07.849 --> 01:02:10.143
A lot of times, you settled
things in a fistfight.
1517
01:02:10.227 --> 01:02:11.645
You just did.
1518
01:02:11.770 --> 01:02:14.314
‐ Vince and I were two peas
in a pod.
1519
01:02:14.397 --> 01:02:16.274
I love the ass[bleep].
1520
01:02:16.358 --> 01:02:17.484
I do.
1521
01:02:17.525 --> 01:02:19.319
He's an ass[bleep] sometimes.
1522
01:02:19.402 --> 01:02:21.696
So am I.
1523
01:02:21.821 --> 01:02:23.448
[crowd chanting "Roddy"]
1524
01:02:23.531 --> 01:02:27.160
‐ Roddy Piper was
an attraction all to himself.
1525
01:02:27.244 --> 01:02:30.038
The fans could no longer
boo him.
1526
01:02:30.163 --> 01:02:31.665
♪ ♪
1527
01:02:31.706 --> 01:02:34.459
You came to see
Roddy Piper's intensity,
1528
01:02:34.542 --> 01:02:36.753
you came
to hear his big mouth,
1529
01:02:36.836 --> 01:02:40.632
and you came to watch
that frenzied,
1530
01:02:40.757 --> 01:02:45.262
kinetic spirit
he brought between the ropes.
1531
01:02:45.345 --> 01:02:50.058
‐ Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1532
01:02:50.183 --> 01:02:54.771
‐ Whether he won
or whether he was humiliated,
1533
01:02:54.854 --> 01:02:56.773
he was a draw,
and he remained a draw.
1534
01:02:56.856 --> 01:02:59.985
‐ We have a new
intercontinental champion:
1535
01:03:00.068 --> 01:03:02.821
Hot Rod Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1536
01:03:02.946 --> 01:03:05.782
‐ Roddy Piper was maturing,
1537
01:03:05.865 --> 01:03:08.994
and it wasn't
all about Roddy
1538
01:03:09.077 --> 01:03:14.457
and Roddy was proving that,
hey, I can make people too.
1539
01:03:14.541 --> 01:03:16.126
♪ ♪
1540
01:03:16.251 --> 01:03:19.087
‐ I wouldn't lay my shoulders
down for anybody.
1541
01:03:19.170 --> 01:03:23.216
But when I do,
I make somebody,
1542
01:03:23.341 --> 01:03:24.926
and it means something.
1543
01:03:25.010 --> 01:03:26.928
‐ This is
going to be something!
1544
01:03:27.762 --> 01:03:29.514
‐ This was a special match.
1545
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:30.807
This is the biggest moment
in my life,
1546
01:03:30.932 --> 01:03:31.975
for sure, up to this point.
1547
01:03:32.058 --> 01:03:35.061
Roddy really launched me.
1548
01:03:35.186 --> 01:03:36.980
Like, my whole career
just starting climbing,
1549
01:03:37.105 --> 01:03:40.233
and it was Roddy was the one
that gave me that first boost.
1550
01:03:40.317 --> 01:03:43.028
‐ This is the first time
these two men are meeting
1551
01:03:43.153 --> 01:03:44.654
for the World Wrestling
Entertainment
1552
01:03:44.738 --> 01:03:46.114
intercontinental title.
1553
01:03:46.197 --> 01:03:48.366
‐ I think the last time‐‐I think
I did watch this, maybe,
1554
01:03:48.491 --> 01:03:49.451
when Roddy died.
1555
01:03:49.534 --> 01:03:50.827
I always make a point of, like,
1556
01:03:50.910 --> 01:03:53.496
trying to go back
and find some good memories.
1557
01:03:53.580 --> 01:03:57.751
‐ I always felt Roddy
took a special interest in me.
1558
01:03:57.876 --> 01:03:59.294
Roddy was born in Saskatoon,
1559
01:03:59.377 --> 01:04:01.171
and my dad grew up
in Saskatoon.
1560
01:04:01.296 --> 01:04:03.965
And there was a possibility
that their name‐‐
1561
01:04:04.007 --> 01:04:05.383
like, they were in
the same family.
1562
01:04:05.467 --> 01:04:08.345
Maybe there was
some blood between us.
1563
01:04:08.470 --> 01:04:10.221
When I first met him,
1564
01:04:10.347 --> 01:04:12.098
we joked that we might
be cousins.
1565
01:04:12.182 --> 01:04:13.933
Like, it was like, "Hey, cuz."
1566
01:04:14.017 --> 01:04:16.519
And I didn't mind. I never
minded Roddy being a cousin.
1567
01:04:16.644 --> 01:04:21.232
‐ I know this guy since he'd
been knee‐high to a grasshopper.
1568
01:04:21.316 --> 01:04:23.860
I remember when they were
changing your potty pants.
1569
01:04:23.943 --> 01:04:26.821
‐ I think it was a message
to the other wrestlers,
1570
01:04:26.905 --> 01:04:28.615
some of the other superstars
1571
01:04:28.698 --> 01:04:30.658
that weren't in the habit
of reaching down
1572
01:04:30.784 --> 01:04:32.243
to help the next guys.
1573
01:04:32.369 --> 01:04:33.995
Roddy was like, "Here,
I'll show you how it's done."
1574
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:36.331
‐ Eye‐to‐eye, nose‐to‐nose.
1575
01:04:36.456 --> 01:04:38.416
‐ But I was relieved
to find out
1576
01:04:38.541 --> 01:04:40.377
that this guy's really
pitching for me.
1577
01:04:40.460 --> 01:04:42.921
He's actually opening
the doors for me.
1578
01:04:44.047 --> 01:04:45.465
That match was Roddy's match.
1579
01:04:45.590 --> 01:04:46.716
‐ Now Rowdy Roddy...
1580
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:48.134
Oh, bulldog!
1581
01:04:48.218 --> 01:04:50.303
‐ Roddy put that match
together.
1582
01:04:50.345 --> 01:04:52.055
‐ Wide open!
1583
01:04:52.180 --> 01:04:55.683
‐ Roddy was so tuned in to
what would work with the fans.
1584
01:04:55.809 --> 01:04:57.060
‐ He's got the bell.
1585
01:04:57.185 --> 01:04:58.561
Piper's gonna
ring his bell.
1586
01:04:58.645 --> 01:05:01.898
‐ They don't want him
to brain me with the bell.
1587
01:05:02.857 --> 01:05:04.526
"No, no, don't do it."
1588
01:05:04.609 --> 01:05:06.820
‐ He's having second thoughts.
1589
01:05:06.903 --> 01:05:08.321
‐ His conscience
gets the better of him,
1590
01:05:08.446 --> 01:05:11.574
and he changes his mind here
and decides not to.
1591
01:05:13.201 --> 01:05:14.494
‐ Oh, look at that move
1592
01:05:14.536 --> 01:05:16.204
off the turnbuckle!
1593
01:05:16.329 --> 01:05:17.914
It's over!
[crowd cheers]
1594
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:19.666
‐ See that? Being a nice guy,
it cost him.
1595
01:05:19.707 --> 01:05:20.959
Idiot.
1596
01:05:22.168 --> 01:05:23.420
[laughs]
1597
01:05:23.503 --> 01:05:24.921
♪ ♪
1598
01:05:25.004 --> 01:05:27.298
Over the years,
Roddy told me many times
1599
01:05:27.382 --> 01:05:29.300
that it was his most
favorite match,
1600
01:05:29.384 --> 01:05:32.595
and, you know,
you never forget that.
1601
01:05:33.638 --> 01:05:35.348
‐ There's an old saying
that's,
1602
01:05:35.473 --> 01:05:37.809
"You need a license to hunt.
You need a license to fish.
1603
01:05:37.934 --> 01:05:39.477
"Any jerk can have a kid.
1604
01:05:39.561 --> 01:05:41.646
It takes a man to be a dad."
1605
01:05:41.729 --> 01:05:43.231
♪ ♪
1606
01:05:43.356 --> 01:05:44.607
Oh, man.
1607
01:05:44.691 --> 01:05:48.236
‐ When I look at my childhood,
my dad was gone almost every day
1608
01:05:48.361 --> 01:05:49.988
for at least
up until I was five.
1609
01:05:50.113 --> 01:05:53.825
‐ The first, at least,
12 years of my life,
1610
01:05:53.950 --> 01:05:55.660
he was gone for long periods
of time.
1611
01:05:55.702 --> 01:05:58.663
I think at one point, I didn't
see him for over a year.
1612
01:05:58.788 --> 01:06:00.373
♪ ♪
1613
01:06:00.457 --> 01:06:01.749
‐ We both made
the same choice,
1614
01:06:01.875 --> 01:06:03.126
that the wrestling business
1615
01:06:03.209 --> 01:06:05.545
took precedent over anything,
even family,
1616
01:06:05.670 --> 01:06:07.130
so that's a tough choice
1617
01:06:07.255 --> 01:06:09.090
to look in the mirror
and live with.
1618
01:06:09.174 --> 01:06:15.221
‐ You were gone at least
300 days a year, every year.
1619
01:06:15.346 --> 01:06:18.725
Roddy was‐‐like me,
was a real strong family man.
1620
01:06:18.850 --> 01:06:21.519
You know, you‐‐
you commiserate together,
1621
01:06:21.644 --> 01:06:23.813
and you're missing your kids'
birthday parties
1622
01:06:23.897 --> 01:06:25.565
and you miss Halloween
1623
01:06:25.690 --> 01:06:27.859
and you miss all these little
special days all the time.
1624
01:06:27.942 --> 01:06:29.486
You see pictures,
1625
01:06:29.611 --> 01:06:31.779
the heartbreak at home
of being gone all the time.
1626
01:06:31.863 --> 01:06:34.741
You know, it's just this
very tough part of your life.
1627
01:06:34.866 --> 01:06:39.496
‐ When Roddy would come home
and have to be Dad,
1628
01:06:39.579 --> 01:06:42.290
he was always fun.
1629
01:06:42.373 --> 01:06:44.000
[kids chattering excitedly]
1630
01:06:44.083 --> 01:06:47.003
He would spoil them rotten.
1631
01:06:48.379 --> 01:06:50.256
He would pull them
out of school,
1632
01:06:50.340 --> 01:06:52.383
didn't matter
what was going on.
1633
01:06:53.468 --> 01:06:55.136
[girls screaming]
1634
01:06:55.220 --> 01:06:59.724
Christmas, he was always home,
and always lots of presents.
1635
01:07:01.059 --> 01:07:03.686
‐ Hey, you!
‐ A lot of cuddle time.
1636
01:07:03.770 --> 01:07:08.316
He was trying very hard
to create what he didn't have.
1637
01:07:08.441 --> 01:07:12.278
‐ He would come home,
and he would be so exhausted,
1638
01:07:12.362 --> 01:07:14.155
you know,
while trying to see us.
1639
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.366
And then he would want
to have fun
1640
01:07:16.491 --> 01:07:18.493
or just do something
as a family.
1641
01:07:18.618 --> 01:07:21.204
And then immediately, like,
as soon as we were having fun,
1642
01:07:21.329 --> 01:07:24.332
you could see him
getting antsy about work.
1643
01:07:24.415 --> 01:07:26.167
You could see it start to tick
like a clock,
1644
01:07:26.292 --> 01:07:27.794
going faster and faster.
1645
01:07:27.877 --> 01:07:29.420
And I think he missed it.
1646
01:07:29.504 --> 01:07:31.339
You know, he missed us
when he was gone,
1647
01:07:31.464 --> 01:07:34.300
and he missed the action
when he was home.
1648
01:07:34.425 --> 01:07:36.719
‐ He was like a runaway
as a kid growing up
1649
01:07:36.803 --> 01:07:40.807
and spent a lot of time on the
road in his own mind‐set.
1650
01:07:40.848 --> 01:07:43.268
Like, Roddy against the world.
1651
01:07:43.351 --> 01:07:46.145
He was not like
any other wrestler.
1652
01:07:46.229 --> 01:07:48.606
He was in his own world.
1653
01:07:48.690 --> 01:07:51.609
I think that world
also meant going away.
1654
01:07:51.693 --> 01:07:56.114
‐ I'm gonna get 30 minutes
with my dad this month.
1655
01:07:56.197 --> 01:07:58.157
I just want to hug him,
cuddle with him,
1656
01:07:58.241 --> 01:08:00.702
kiss him, and do whatever
I can in that time,
1657
01:08:00.827 --> 01:08:01.953
because I literally get him
1658
01:08:02.036 --> 01:08:03.496
on his transfer
layover flight.
1659
01:08:03.580 --> 01:08:05.832
He wasn't an NFL player
that had a season.
1660
01:08:05.873 --> 01:08:07.083
He went 365.
1661
01:08:07.208 --> 01:08:08.501
‐ [plays note]
‐ There you go.
1662
01:08:08.626 --> 01:08:10.962
‐ They never liked
seeing him go,
1663
01:08:11.045 --> 01:08:12.797
everyone,
including myself.
1664
01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:14.799
‐ If you could wish for
anything in the whole world,
1665
01:08:14.841 --> 01:08:16.259
what would you wish for?
1666
01:08:16.342 --> 01:08:20.138
‐ For my family to be together
all the time.
1667
01:08:27.020 --> 01:08:28.229
You know, it's hard not
to get sad
1668
01:08:28.313 --> 01:08:30.732
when he's going out the door,
but...
1669
01:08:30.857 --> 01:08:32.233
Sorry.
[clears throat]
1670
01:08:33.526 --> 01:08:34.652
[exhales]
1671
01:08:34.736 --> 01:08:38.156
♪ ♪
1672
01:08:38.281 --> 01:08:43.661
[whispers]
I need a minute.
1673
01:08:43.786 --> 01:08:44.996
♪ ♪
1674
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:49.250
‐ It's hard to live with a man
that has constant injuries.
1675
01:08:49.375 --> 01:08:54.297
Of course, they varied
from bruises to broken bones.
1676
01:08:54.380 --> 01:08:58.843
He never let on how bad
he was hurting.
1677
01:08:58.968 --> 01:09:02.889
I would beg him to sit still
and recover from an injury.
1678
01:09:03.014 --> 01:09:04.557
Yes, yes, I would.
1679
01:09:04.682 --> 01:09:08.061
But you cannot make Rod
do anything he doesn't want to.
1680
01:09:08.144 --> 01:09:09.479
♪ ♪
1681
01:09:09.562 --> 01:09:12.065
‐ Dad was injured
90% of the time.
1682
01:09:12.148 --> 01:09:13.483
♪ ♪
1683
01:09:13.566 --> 01:09:15.276
So when I say I had
to lace his boots up
1684
01:09:15.360 --> 01:09:17.028
since I was eight years old,
1685
01:09:17.111 --> 01:09:18.905
it's because it physically
hurt him.
1686
01:09:21.157 --> 01:09:23.868
‐ He is sorely
outnumbered here.
1687
01:09:23.993 --> 01:09:27.288
‐ I remember the first time
that I really felt, like,
1688
01:09:27.372 --> 01:09:28.998
wow, he is mortal.
1689
01:09:29.040 --> 01:09:32.168
‐ Hogan gives a whuppin'
on him.
1690
01:09:32.293 --> 01:09:35.213
‐ And truly hating Hogan.
1691
01:09:35.296 --> 01:09:36.506
[crowd cheering]
1692
01:09:36.631 --> 01:09:38.299
‐ They can't hold him down!
1693
01:09:38.383 --> 01:09:41.594
‐ The hardest thing
as a kid, for me,
1694
01:09:41.678 --> 01:09:43.388
was knowing your dad's
injuries.
1695
01:09:43.471 --> 01:09:45.139
‐ And he had just had
a hip replacement.
1696
01:09:45.181 --> 01:09:47.517
‐ Showing that scar there.
You can see it.
1697
01:09:47.642 --> 01:09:49.477
‐ He had a scar
from the hip replacement.
1698
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.105
Hulk Hogan took a chair
and hit my dad.
1699
01:09:52.188 --> 01:09:54.357
‐ Oh, no! No!
1700
01:09:54.482 --> 01:09:55.775
‐ He's not supposed
to be wrestling.
1701
01:09:55.858 --> 01:09:57.985
We were told he might not
even walk again.
1702
01:09:58.069 --> 01:10:00.113
♪ ♪
1703
01:10:00.196 --> 01:10:03.324
‐ I just remember
breaking down in tears
1704
01:10:03.408 --> 01:10:06.035
because, for the first time,
it became real.
1705
01:10:06.160 --> 01:10:08.913
‐ Roddy! Roddy! Roddy!
1706
01:10:09.038 --> 01:10:10.498
‐ So at that point,
1707
01:10:10.623 --> 01:10:13.543
my parents stopped letting us
watch altogether.
1708
01:10:13.668 --> 01:10:16.170
‐ When we had the inside
and the outside view,
1709
01:10:16.295 --> 01:10:18.423
it was really rough.
1710
01:10:18.506 --> 01:10:20.883
‐ I mean, he was just
in constant pain
1711
01:10:21.008 --> 01:10:23.261
and yet could work through it.
1712
01:10:23.344 --> 01:10:27.640
As he got older,
he had a shoulder injury,
1713
01:10:27.724 --> 01:10:30.476
and his arm would just hang,
like, a couple inches lower
1714
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:32.645
than the other arm,
and he was probably like that
1715
01:10:32.729 --> 01:10:33.730
for a year or two.
1716
01:10:33.855 --> 01:10:35.148
It turned out his, like‐‐
1717
01:10:35.189 --> 01:10:37.817
they pulled out something
like five or six shattered bones
1718
01:10:37.900 --> 01:10:40.361
that were just, like,
floating around his shoulder.
1719
01:10:40.486 --> 01:10:43.281
‐ It was kind of fascinating
1720
01:10:43.364 --> 01:10:46.117
for me to see him
behind the scenes
1721
01:10:46.200 --> 01:10:48.035
having a hard time
getting out of bed,
1722
01:10:48.161 --> 01:10:49.412
having a hard time walking,
1723
01:10:49.495 --> 01:10:52.206
and two hours later,
he's in the ring
1724
01:10:52.331 --> 01:10:54.250
and you'd never know
anything was wrong
1725
01:10:54.375 --> 01:10:55.460
because he loved it.
1726
01:10:55.585 --> 01:10:57.462
He loved putting on a show.
1727
01:10:57.545 --> 01:11:01.799
It really was just two
completely different lives.
1728
01:11:01.841 --> 01:11:04.969
♪ ♪
1729
01:11:05.052 --> 01:11:09.223
‐ During the time of 2003
when Dad talked to HBO,
1730
01:11:09.348 --> 01:11:11.017
it was a dark time for Dad
1731
01:11:11.100 --> 01:11:12.977
in front of the camera
and at home.
1732
01:11:13.060 --> 01:11:14.979
‐ Everybody's dead.
1733
01:11:15.104 --> 01:11:17.440
They're all dying early,
1734
01:11:17.523 --> 01:11:20.651
and nobody cares about it.
1735
01:11:20.693 --> 01:11:23.404
‐ What the hell is he doing?
1736
01:11:23.529 --> 01:11:27.366
And what the hell is he saying?
It's like, really?
1737
01:11:27.492 --> 01:11:31.496
‐ They take them
and they screw them up so much
1738
01:11:31.579 --> 01:11:35.583
and they being the rash
of promoters
1739
01:11:35.708 --> 01:11:37.585
that I've gone through
in the 33 years.
1740
01:11:37.668 --> 01:11:39.462
‐ And a lot of times
you lash out, you know,
1741
01:11:39.545 --> 01:11:42.131
and that's what Roddy was
doing was lashing out.
1742
01:11:42.215 --> 01:11:43.633
♪ ♪
1743
01:11:43.716 --> 01:11:47.845
‐ A lot of his friends
had started passing away,
1744
01:11:47.970 --> 01:11:51.015
and it makes you worry
and it makes you concerned,
1745
01:11:51.098 --> 01:11:54.477
and so that's when he started
being vocal about it.
1746
01:11:54.602 --> 01:11:56.562
‐ I know he blamed the company
1747
01:11:56.687 --> 01:11:58.731
for just about everything
in the interviews,
1748
01:11:58.856 --> 01:12:02.276
but at that time,
he had lost so much.
1749
01:12:02.360 --> 01:12:04.070
He wasn't wrestling.
He was hurt.
1750
01:12:04.195 --> 01:12:06.781
He was just trying
to stand up for his buddies.
1751
01:12:06.864 --> 01:12:09.575
But later on,
towards the end,
1752
01:12:09.700 --> 01:12:11.160
Dad had talked to me and,
you know, he said,
1753
01:12:11.285 --> 01:12:14.413
"It's the business we get into.
We know what it is, you know.
1754
01:12:14.539 --> 01:12:16.207
"We don't get in there
thinking we're gonna live
1755
01:12:16.332 --> 01:12:17.834
to 70, 80 years old."
1756
01:12:17.875 --> 01:12:22.421
‐ What would you
have me do at 49 when,
1757
01:12:22.505 --> 01:12:25.049
like, my pension plan,
I can't take out until I'm 65.
1758
01:12:25.132 --> 01:12:28.636
I'm not gonna make 65.
Let's just face facts, guys.
1759
01:12:28.761 --> 01:12:31.639
‐ When someone says really
rotten thing about your company,
1760
01:12:31.764 --> 01:12:34.934
you know, you're not gonna
welcome them with open arms.
1761
01:12:35.017 --> 01:12:38.271
You know, you're gonna say,
"Time for us to say good‐bye."
1762
01:12:38.354 --> 01:12:40.398
♪ ♪
1763
01:12:40.481 --> 01:12:43.234
‐ He wasn't expecting
the consequences.
1764
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:44.652
He lost a contract.
1765
01:12:44.777 --> 01:12:46.153
It was pretty bad
for our family
1766
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:47.780
as far as, like,
our well‐being goes.
1767
01:12:47.864 --> 01:12:51.701
I think he felt very lost,
very depressed,
1768
01:12:51.784 --> 01:12:54.412
a little bit reckless
with his behavior.
1769
01:12:54.495 --> 01:12:55.496
Obviously,
with the HBO interview,
1770
01:12:55.621 --> 01:12:57.123
that's a good example.
1771
01:12:57.206 --> 01:13:00.084
And, you know, I've talked
about him having demons,
1772
01:13:00.167 --> 01:13:02.545
and I think that this was
sort of like the height
1773
01:13:02.628 --> 01:13:05.172
of his demons coming out
was this period of his life.
1774
01:13:05.256 --> 01:13:09.635
♪ ♪
1775
01:13:10.469 --> 01:13:12.054
‐ Yeah, nothing's permanent
in this business,
1776
01:13:12.179 --> 01:13:14.348
and as Piper's been fired,
1777
01:13:14.473 --> 01:13:15.516
I've been fired a couple times.
1778
01:13:15.641 --> 01:13:17.184
You know, but things change
1779
01:13:17.310 --> 01:13:20.146
and, you know,
the president or...
1780
01:13:20.271 --> 01:13:22.106
OJ or somebody
will do something
1781
01:13:22.189 --> 01:13:23.983
that takes precedent
over something that we did.
1782
01:13:24.066 --> 01:13:27.028
So I think Vince understands
that he's dealing with
1783
01:13:27.153 --> 01:13:29.822
a bunch of high,
intense personalities.
1784
01:13:29.906 --> 01:13:31.991
But Vince has been
pretty forgiving.
1785
01:13:32.033 --> 01:13:34.577
‐ Whoo! Ladies and gentlemen,
I give you‐‐
1786
01:13:34.702 --> 01:13:39.332
I give you the most
gifted entertainer
1787
01:13:39.415 --> 01:13:43.210
in the history
of professional wrestling:
1788
01:13:43.336 --> 01:13:46.464
my man, the Hot Rod.
1789
01:13:46.547 --> 01:13:49.717
[playing bagpipe music]
1790
01:13:49.842 --> 01:13:51.552
‐ I think it was huge for him,
1791
01:13:51.677 --> 01:13:53.346
you know, 'cause his whole
life was wrestling.
1792
01:13:53.429 --> 01:13:56.474
Even though wrestling
is an exhibition,
1793
01:13:56.557 --> 01:13:58.893
for us,
the Hall of Fame is real.
1794
01:13:59.018 --> 01:14:01.479
[crowd chanting "Roddy"]
1795
01:14:01.604 --> 01:14:03.981
Roddy! Roddy!
Roddy! Roddy!
1796
01:14:04.065 --> 01:14:05.232
♪ ♪
1797
01:14:05.358 --> 01:14:07.193
‐ I want to tell you this.
1798
01:14:09.028 --> 01:14:10.488
I love you s...
1799
01:14:10.613 --> 01:14:11.697
[chuckles]
1800
01:14:11.822 --> 01:14:13.074
[laughter]
1801
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.993
I love you so much, man.
1802
01:14:16.077 --> 01:14:19.956
I love you so much,
but I guarantee you this:
1803
01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:24.460
my name is Rowdy Roddy Piper,
and you ain't seen nothing yet.
1804
01:14:34.553 --> 01:14:37.723
[solemn music]
1805
01:14:37.807 --> 01:14:41.435
♪ ♪
1806
01:14:41.519 --> 01:14:43.604
[pen scratching]
1807
01:14:43.688 --> 01:14:45.314
‐ You can find sympathy
in the dictionary
1808
01:14:45.398 --> 01:14:47.733
between [bleep] and suicide.
1809
01:14:47.817 --> 01:14:49.860
♪ ♪
1810
01:14:49.986 --> 01:14:51.529
‐ Roddy was definitely
depressed
1811
01:14:51.654 --> 01:14:55.449
off and on during his life.
1812
01:14:55.533 --> 01:14:58.661
You know, you're either up
100%
1813
01:14:58.744 --> 01:15:00.246
or you're kind of down,
1814
01:15:00.329 --> 01:15:03.207
and it was always hard for him
to find the middle spot.
1815
01:15:04.709 --> 01:15:07.545
One of the demons was
that time in his life
1816
01:15:07.670 --> 01:15:11.007
as a teenager when he was
surviving on the street.
1817
01:15:11.132 --> 01:15:12.633
He never let that go.
1818
01:15:12.758 --> 01:15:14.093
‐ I was so young.
1819
01:15:14.176 --> 01:15:16.804
I had to fight
for everything I had.
1820
01:15:16.846 --> 01:15:19.724
♪ ♪
1821
01:15:19.849 --> 01:15:21.183
Oh, man.
1822
01:15:21.267 --> 01:15:23.436
♪ ♪
1823
01:15:23.519 --> 01:15:25.021
‐ He told me some stuff
about his childhood
1824
01:15:25.146 --> 01:15:26.480
and living on the street.
1825
01:15:26.522 --> 01:15:29.150
He was in a bad spot
and used and abused
1826
01:15:29.191 --> 01:15:32.361
and just a lot of bad stuff
that I had no idea.
1827
01:15:32.486 --> 01:15:33.988
♪ ♪
1828
01:15:34.071 --> 01:15:37.158
‐ Nobody‐‐you know,
nobody feel sorry for me, man.
1829
01:15:37.241 --> 01:15:38.951
‐ You know, he had phoned me
from the road,
1830
01:15:39.035 --> 01:15:41.287
and he'd been in his hotel
room for three days
1831
01:15:41.370 --> 01:15:42.955
with the lights off.
1832
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:44.999
He was depressed.
There was things on his mind
1833
01:15:45.124 --> 01:15:47.001
that went back
to his childhood.
1834
01:15:47.126 --> 01:15:48.836
♪ ♪
1835
01:15:48.961 --> 01:15:52.048
His mind went to spots
that weren't good for him.
1836
01:15:52.131 --> 01:15:53.841
♪ ♪
1837
01:15:53.924 --> 01:15:57.178
‐ He still had that crumbling
part inside his soul
1838
01:15:57.303 --> 01:15:59.305
that he could never mend.
1839
01:15:59.430 --> 01:16:00.848
He was so depressed at times,
1840
01:16:00.973 --> 01:16:05.019
I'm sure that he did
think of suicide.
1841
01:16:05.144 --> 01:16:06.771
He wouldn't follow through
with it
1842
01:16:06.854 --> 01:16:08.272
because, as he would
be the first to say,
1843
01:16:08.355 --> 01:16:10.900
he's not a coward,
and that's a coward's way out.
1844
01:16:11.025 --> 01:16:16.322
But he was so sad at times
inside himself
1845
01:16:16.405 --> 01:16:19.075
that I know that he did
think that occasionally,
1846
01:16:19.200 --> 01:16:20.743
and that's heartbreaking.
1847
01:16:28.501 --> 01:16:29.835
‐ At 242 pounds,
1848
01:16:29.919 --> 01:16:33.380
the Hot Rod,
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1849
01:16:33.464 --> 01:16:36.634
[playing jaunty piano music]
1850
01:16:36.717 --> 01:16:39.386
‐ Hey, buddy!
‐ How you doing, pal?
1851
01:16:39.470 --> 01:16:41.347
Yeah. Nice.
‐ Good to see you!
1852
01:16:41.472 --> 01:16:42.848
‐ Good to see you too.
Been in jail.
1853
01:16:42.973 --> 01:16:44.892
‐ As he started
to wind down wrestling,
1854
01:16:45.017 --> 01:16:46.894
he really started to have fun
1855
01:16:46.977 --> 01:16:50.815
going into acting
as well as comedy.
1856
01:16:56.362 --> 01:16:57.822
[laughter]
1857
01:16:57.905 --> 01:16:59.824
‐ In a weird way,
I think it was a nice,
1858
01:16:59.907 --> 01:17:02.034
therapeutic thing
that he realized
1859
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:03.828
that just because he couldn't
wrestle anymore
1860
01:17:03.911 --> 01:17:05.371
didn't mean
that he couldn't perform.
1861
01:17:11.085 --> 01:17:12.002
[laughter]
1862
01:17:15.756 --> 01:17:17.049
‐ He enjoyed telling
these stories,
1863
01:17:17.174 --> 01:17:18.884
he enjoyed connecting
with his fans,
1864
01:17:19.009 --> 01:17:21.220
and that was something that
he was very passionate about.
1865
01:17:21.303 --> 01:17:24.890
‐ May all your dreams
come true. God bless you.
1866
01:17:25.015 --> 01:17:26.600
[applause]
‐ How cool is that?
1867
01:17:26.684 --> 01:17:29.270
Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1868
01:17:29.353 --> 01:17:31.981
January of 2009,
1869
01:17:32.064 --> 01:17:34.483
his manager reached out
and said,
1870
01:17:34.525 --> 01:17:36.193
"Would you have any interest
1871
01:17:36.318 --> 01:17:40.406
in helping Roddy cultivate
a stand‐up comedy act?"
1872
01:17:40.531 --> 01:17:43.325
And I was like, "Absolutely."
1873
01:17:43.409 --> 01:17:44.743
Because here's the thing:
1874
01:17:44.869 --> 01:17:46.704
when you watch pro wrestling
with brothers,
1875
01:17:46.829 --> 01:17:48.372
that wasn't even a TV show.
1876
01:17:48.497 --> 01:17:51.208
That was an instruction guide
on how to hurt each other.
1877
01:17:51.292 --> 01:17:52.960
That's all it was.
1878
01:17:53.043 --> 01:17:57.464
I grew up the middle of three
boys in suburban Philadelphia
1879
01:17:57.590 --> 01:18:01.969
in really the Golden Age of
modern professional wrestling.
1880
01:18:02.052 --> 01:18:03.304
♪ ♪
1881
01:18:03.387 --> 01:18:07.141
I remember being a kid
when he showed up.
1882
01:18:07.266 --> 01:18:08.767
He was the worst.
1883
01:18:08.851 --> 01:18:10.227
[laughs]
Like, I remember being
1884
01:18:10.352 --> 01:18:12.813
a chubby 11‐year‐old kid
buying a T‐shirt that said,
1885
01:18:12.897 --> 01:18:14.565
"I hate Rowdy Roddy Piper."
1886
01:18:14.648 --> 01:18:19.486
Like, he could get you
to yell at a television set.
1887
01:18:19.570 --> 01:18:21.447
♪ ♪
1888
01:18:21.530 --> 01:18:24.658
And meeting Roddy
was like meeting somebody
1889
01:18:24.783 --> 01:18:26.160
out of a comic book.
1890
01:18:26.285 --> 01:18:28.913
That began a really cool
relationship
1891
01:18:28.996 --> 01:18:30.623
where I would just
listen to stories
1892
01:18:30.706 --> 01:18:35.836
and try to help him craft that
into some sort of cohesive act.
1893
01:18:42.176 --> 01:18:47.181
‐ As a comedian, I have a
unbelievable amount of respect
1894
01:18:47.264 --> 01:18:50.559
for somebody that can connect
with audiences
1895
01:18:50.684 --> 01:18:51.685
on such a deep level.
1896
01:18:51.810 --> 01:18:54.521
That was his mutant ability.
1897
01:18:54.605 --> 01:18:56.482
‐ Like that power walking...
1898
01:18:56.607 --> 01:18:58.692
[laughter]
1899
01:18:58.817 --> 01:19:00.736
‐ I got to go through
Roddy's life with him
1900
01:19:00.861 --> 01:19:02.238
on a comedic journey,
1901
01:19:02.363 --> 01:19:06.951
but hearing his life experience
was just so amazing.
1902
01:19:11.914 --> 01:19:13.707
‐ Roddy's darkness
is one of the things
1903
01:19:13.832 --> 01:19:15.376
that drew him
to stand‐up comedy.
1904
01:19:15.501 --> 01:19:18.462
[playing harmonica]
1905
01:19:19.421 --> 01:19:21.882
You can turn pain into joy,
1906
01:19:22.007 --> 01:19:26.387
and making people laugh
meant a lot to him.
1907
01:19:26.470 --> 01:19:31.809
♪ ♪
1908
01:19:31.892 --> 01:19:33.811
‐ He is the WWE
Hall of Famer
1909
01:19:33.852 --> 01:19:37.648
and one of the all‐time greats,
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1910
01:19:37.773 --> 01:19:39.358
‐ When he would
get off the road,
1911
01:19:39.483 --> 01:19:41.860
he would be tired or hurt,
and he'd recover.
1912
01:19:41.986 --> 01:19:45.155
But there was never a time
that he did an interview
1913
01:19:45.281 --> 01:19:47.741
or he got on camera
and he couldn't turn it on.
1914
01:19:47.866 --> 01:19:49.702
‐ What was the question?
[laughs]
1915
01:19:49.785 --> 01:19:51.704
‐ This time was different.
1916
01:19:51.829 --> 01:19:53.455
He had this interview.
1917
01:19:53.539 --> 01:19:55.124
And he gets on and he's, like,
1918
01:19:55.207 --> 01:19:57.001
can't put his thoughts
together.
1919
01:19:57.126 --> 01:19:59.795
‐ Nah, but‐‐but what I don't
think is an honor...
1920
01:20:01.297 --> 01:20:03.799
Uh...
Let me‐‐let me try to do this.
1921
01:20:03.882 --> 01:20:05.968
‐ It's one of those things
that, as a family member,
1922
01:20:06.010 --> 01:20:07.720
when you know someone close
and you're like,
1923
01:20:07.845 --> 01:20:09.013
"They're being odd."
1924
01:20:09.138 --> 01:20:10.973
‐ I went into a‐‐
excuse me.
1925
01:20:11.056 --> 01:20:14.685
I went into a Mexican...
uh, restaurant
1926
01:20:14.768 --> 01:20:17.521
with my youngest daughter,
who's, uh...
1927
01:20:17.646 --> 01:20:20.232
‐ It was heartbreaking
1928
01:20:20.357 --> 01:20:22.735
because that was not
the man I knew.
1929
01:20:22.818 --> 01:20:24.945
There was obvious problem
he was having.
1930
01:20:25.029 --> 01:20:27.114
‐ I just think that...
1931
01:20:27.197 --> 01:20:31.201
‐ It was like the moment the
world knew something was wrong.
1932
01:20:31.327 --> 01:20:33.329
♪ ♪
1933
01:20:33.370 --> 01:20:37.166
And a few days later,
Roddy was home.
1934
01:20:37.291 --> 01:20:39.043
He was very tired that night.
1935
01:20:39.168 --> 01:20:40.961
We were gonna go see
his doctor the next day.
1936
01:20:41.086 --> 01:20:43.255
We decided to do that.
1937
01:20:43.339 --> 01:20:44.965
And we went to bed
1938
01:20:45.090 --> 01:20:47.343
and he passed away
in his sleep.
1939
01:20:47.426 --> 01:20:48.677
♪ ♪
1940
01:20:48.802 --> 01:20:50.429
‐ His heart failed.
1941
01:20:50.512 --> 01:20:53.307
As far as the specifics
as to what was causing it,
1942
01:20:53.390 --> 01:20:57.144
it probably was a combination
of his entire life.
1943
01:20:57.186 --> 01:20:58.604
♪ ♪
1944
01:20:58.687 --> 01:21:02.816
‐ I am so grateful
that he was home because,
1945
01:21:02.900 --> 01:21:05.027
even at that age,
1946
01:21:05.110 --> 01:21:09.156
so many days of the year,
he was gone away from home,
1947
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:10.949
and he could have been alone.
1948
01:21:11.033 --> 01:21:13.077
Sorry.
[clears throat]
1949
01:21:13.160 --> 01:21:16.497
And I'm just very grateful
that he was home with me
1950
01:21:16.622 --> 01:21:17.831
when he passed.
1951
01:21:17.956 --> 01:21:22.294
♪ ♪
1952
01:21:22.378 --> 01:21:25.756
‐ You know, the news came
that he passed away, you know.
1953
01:21:25.839 --> 01:21:28.675
I felt like I got shot in the
chest with a cannon, you know.
1954
01:21:28.801 --> 01:21:33.013
And it kind of like knocked me
off track for a couple days,
1955
01:21:33.138 --> 01:21:36.058
and now all of a sudden,
I get this voice message.
1956
01:21:36.141 --> 01:21:37.518
It was really weird
because either
1957
01:21:37.643 --> 01:21:39.061
my phone was messed up,
1958
01:21:39.186 --> 01:21:41.814
sometimes you'll get
a text message at that night
1959
01:21:41.897 --> 01:21:43.315
when it was sent to you
in the morning.
1960
01:21:53.075 --> 01:21:54.701
‐ That really spooked me out.
1961
01:21:54.827 --> 01:21:57.496
Like, hmm, alien thing, you
know, like "Close Encounters."
1962
01:21:57.579 --> 01:22:00.999
It was just crazy to get
a voice message from somebody
1963
01:22:01.125 --> 01:22:03.335
after they passed away,
and especially for him to say,
1964
01:22:03.419 --> 01:22:05.462
"I'm loving you and walking
with Jesus, my brother.
1965
01:22:05.587 --> 01:22:07.464
Just loving you
and walking with Jesus."
1966
01:22:07.548 --> 01:22:09.633
I was like, "Wow."
1967
01:22:09.758 --> 01:22:11.593
Totally screwed me up.
1968
01:22:14.054 --> 01:22:17.307
[wistful music]
1969
01:22:17.391 --> 01:22:23.647
♪ ♪
1970
01:22:23.689 --> 01:22:25.149
‐ All right, guys.
1971
01:22:27.818 --> 01:22:30.946
[overlapping chatter]
1972
01:22:32.489 --> 01:22:33.449
‐ It is.
1973
01:22:43.375 --> 01:22:45.169
‐ Hey, nice to see you again.
How are you?
1974
01:22:45.294 --> 01:22:47.087
‐ So good to see you.
Oh, my God.
1975
01:22:47.171 --> 01:22:48.797
When I first started doing MMA,
1976
01:22:48.881 --> 01:22:50.466
I was trying to think
of a fight name,
1977
01:22:50.549 --> 01:22:52.468
and, of course, the first thing
that everybody thought of
1978
01:22:52.509 --> 01:22:54.136
was like, "What do you think
as a fight name?"
1979
01:22:54.178 --> 01:22:55.554
"Well, Rowdy.
Rowdy Ronda Rousey."
1980
01:22:55.679 --> 01:22:56.972
Like, I know, but it's like
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1981
01:22:57.097 --> 01:22:58.682
And he has that.
I don't want to steal it
1982
01:22:58.807 --> 01:23:03.562
until I happened to see
the original rowdy one
1983
01:23:03.687 --> 01:23:06.023
and got his blessing
1984
01:23:06.148 --> 01:23:07.483
and, yeah, he was very
sweet about it.
1985
01:23:07.566 --> 01:23:09.651
He was like, "Yeah, sure, kid.
No problem.
1986
01:23:09.735 --> 01:23:11.612
Better do the name proud."
Or something like that.
1987
01:23:11.695 --> 01:23:13.155
I don't know.
[laughs]
1988
01:23:13.238 --> 01:23:14.907
‐ And then Kitty, my mom.
‐ Hi.
1989
01:23:14.990 --> 01:23:22.039
♪ ♪
1990
01:23:35.594 --> 01:23:36.803
No one can do it better.
1991
01:23:36.887 --> 01:23:38.013
‐ [laughs]
Thank you so much.
1992
01:23:38.138 --> 01:23:39.264
Thank you so, so much.
1993
01:23:39.348 --> 01:23:42.768
‐ He was a loner and a wolf,
1994
01:23:42.851 --> 01:23:47.022
and he was often
misunderstood.
1995
01:23:48.232 --> 01:23:50.901
‐ I was so wild,
1996
01:23:51.026 --> 01:23:53.237
scary wild.
1997
01:23:53.320 --> 01:23:56.949
‐ But he was always 100%
in your face.
1998
01:23:57.032 --> 01:24:01.245
‐ You do not throw rocks at
a man who's got a machine gun!
1999
01:24:01.328 --> 01:24:04.289
‐ This is what you get.
I am who I am.
2000
01:24:04.373 --> 01:24:07.042
‐ What you got here
is all man.
2001
01:24:07.125 --> 01:24:09.294
‐ He didn't change
for anybody.
2002
01:24:09.419 --> 01:24:12.214
‐ We are the most popular
wrestlers in the entire world.
2003
01:24:12.339 --> 01:24:15.300
‐ I haven't found anyone
that has what Roddy had.
2004
01:24:16.677 --> 01:24:18.053
Loved life.
2005
01:24:18.178 --> 01:24:19.471
Lived it to its max.
2006
01:24:19.596 --> 01:24:20.764
‐ Ya‐ha!
2007
01:24:20.847 --> 01:24:24.059
‐ He came in spitting fire
and crapping thunder.
2008
01:24:24.935 --> 01:24:26.979
‐ I'm not afraid
of nobody‐‐
2009
01:24:27.062 --> 01:24:29.106
♪ ♪
2010
01:24:29.189 --> 01:24:30.816
‐ I am the legend killer.
2011
01:24:30.857 --> 01:24:33.402
‐ He started with so little
and ended with so much
2012
01:24:33.485 --> 01:24:36.572
and had every hardship
thrown at him along the way.
2013
01:24:36.697 --> 01:24:38.156
That's my dad's legacy.
2014
01:24:38.282 --> 01:24:40.158
I hope it is one
that gives people strength.
2015
01:24:40.284 --> 01:24:43.996
‐ I still hear new stories
about him all the time,
2016
01:24:44.121 --> 01:24:47.165
and I realize how lucky I am
to have a father
2017
01:24:47.291 --> 01:24:50.460
that has impacted
so many people in the world.
2018
01:24:50.544 --> 01:24:53.255
♪ ♪
2019
01:24:53.338 --> 01:24:55.716
‐ Best part of my job:
2020
01:24:55.841 --> 01:24:59.845
when you come with your daddy
and your mommy,
2021
01:24:59.970 --> 01:25:01.221
and you're all excited and...
2022
01:25:04.182 --> 01:25:08.103
We can put a smile
on a little boy's face.
2023
01:25:10.022 --> 01:25:11.315
That's the greatest reward
2024
01:25:11.398 --> 01:25:13.358
a guy can ever have
in his life.
2025
01:25:14.776 --> 01:25:16.486
Thank you.
2026
01:25:16.570 --> 01:25:17.863
I love you too.
2027
01:25:17.988 --> 01:25:22.492
♪ ♪
2028
01:25:22.618 --> 01:25:24.661
‐ I have come here
2029
01:25:24.786 --> 01:25:26.204
to chew bubble gum.
2030
01:25:26.330 --> 01:25:30.208
‐ I have come here to chew
bubble gum and kick butt.
2031
01:25:30.292 --> 01:25:32.544
‐ And I'm all
out of bubble gum.
2032
01:25:32.669 --> 01:25:34.421
‐ And I'm all out
of bubble gum.
2033
01:25:34.504 --> 01:25:36.840
‐ Just when they think
they have the answers...
2034
01:25:36.923 --> 01:25:39.635
‐ Just when they think they
have the answers...
2035
01:25:39.718 --> 01:25:41.303
‐ I change the questions.
2036
01:25:41.386 --> 01:25:43.180
‐ I change
the questions.
2037
01:25:43.305 --> 01:25:45.682
‐ You do not throw rocks...
2038
01:25:45.807 --> 01:25:47.976
‐ You do not throw rocks
2039
01:25:48.060 --> 01:25:51.271
at a man with a machine gun,
brother.