WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:18.745 --> 00:00:21.548 : Ambush, ambush! Checkpoint Danny Boy. 4 00:00:22.551 --> 00:00:24.848 Outnumbered. Two men down. Request backup. 5 00:00:24.883 --> 00:00:26.421 : Received. Backup deployed. 6 00:00:26.456 --> 00:00:27.752 Three Warriors. 7 00:00:27.787 --> 00:00:29.622 : Heavy incoming! - : Whisky 2-2 8 00:00:29.657 --> 00:00:31.096 five minutes away. 9 00:00:36.895 --> 00:00:38.301 : This is Whisky 2-2 10 00:00:38.336 --> 00:00:39.566 approaching Checkpoint Danny Boy. 11 00:00:39.601 --> 00:00:41.337 RPG and gunshot incoming. 12 00:00:41.372 --> 00:00:43.735 I don't like it. - Just sit tight, mate, OK? 13 00:00:43.770 --> 00:00:45.143 You're gonna be alright. 14 00:00:47.741 --> 00:00:50.445 : Woody, listen up. Enemy are dug in. 15 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:52.348 Your orders are to leave the vehicle. 16 00:00:52.383 --> 00:00:55.252 Sorry, say again, Stick. You want us to dismount into that? 17 00:00:55.287 --> 00:00:57.089 They've got two men down. They need help. 18 00:00:57.124 --> 00:00:58.387 So prep the boys for dismount. 19 00:01:00.127 --> 00:01:01.192 What's he saying? 20 00:01:06.892 --> 00:01:09.266 We're gonna dismount and close with the enemy. 21 00:01:09.301 --> 00:01:11.169 : What, here? Just us? 22 00:01:12.766 --> 00:01:14.832 After me. Be quick about it, yeah? 23 00:01:32.258 --> 00:01:34.357 : How does it feel to be accused of war crimes? 24 00:01:34.392 --> 00:01:35.193 It's Brian Wood. 25 00:01:37.329 --> 00:01:39.362 - 26 00:01:46.173 --> 00:01:48.437 : A boy at school says you're a murderer. 27 00:01:48.472 --> 00:01:50.175 : And that's what's upsetting you? 28 00:01:50.210 --> 00:01:51.308 That is upsetting. 29 00:01:55.875 --> 00:01:57.545 Come here, little man. 30 00:02:00.385 --> 00:02:03.188 Say you're not. - Not what? 31 00:02:03.223 --> 00:02:04.156 Dad. 32 00:02:05.291 --> 00:02:06.488 Bailey... 33 00:02:08.195 --> 00:02:09.590 do I look like a murderer to you? 34 00:02:10.725 --> 00:02:14.529 The inquiry's terms of reference are as follows, and I quote: 35 00:02:14.729 --> 00:02:17.532 "To investigate and report on the allegations made 36 00:02:17.567 --> 00:02:20.172 by the claimants against British soldiers 37 00:02:20.207 --> 00:02:24.275 on the 14th and 15th of May 2004." 38 00:02:24.310 --> 00:02:28.279 Corporal Wood, do you understand how matters will proceed? 39 00:02:30.008 --> 00:02:32.382 I do, sir, yes. 40 00:02:43.659 --> 00:02:45.263 : OK, lads, you're on your own. 41 00:02:45.298 --> 00:02:46.561 You ready for this? 42 00:02:46.959 --> 00:02:48.893 Rushy, you ready for this? - Yes! 43 00:02:48.928 --> 00:02:50.928 Spud? Let's do this! Go, go, go! 44 00:03:07.881 --> 00:03:10.354 Ah, Jesus, babe. 45 00:03:13.623 --> 00:03:15.887 Do you ever get that thing, you wake up 46 00:03:15.922 --> 00:03:17.724 and you haven't got a bloody clue where you are? 47 00:03:18.826 --> 00:03:20.331 No. 48 00:03:26.603 --> 00:03:28.273 Want me to tell you where you are? 49 00:03:28.935 --> 00:03:30.242 I know now. 50 00:03:31.773 --> 00:03:32.838 Want me to tell you? 51 00:03:34.941 --> 00:03:35.841 : Yeah, go on, then. 52 00:03:37.713 --> 00:03:40.285 You are in London. - Yeah? 53 00:03:41.387 --> 00:03:42.947 To meet the Queen. 54 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:45.389 And why's that then? 55 00:03:45.424 --> 00:03:48.755 Because you're a hero and she wants to pin something on you. 56 00:04:01.473 --> 00:04:03.440 : Come on, wee man, come on. Let's go find your mum. 57 00:04:03.475 --> 00:04:05.310 - Here we go, come on. 58 00:04:05.345 --> 00:04:07.246 She's in there. Go and see her. On you go, son. 59 00:04:07.776 --> 00:04:10.381 Ho-ho! Look at this smart wee laddie. 60 00:04:10.416 --> 00:04:12.647 : Wahey! Alright, Bailey boy? 61 00:04:12.682 --> 00:04:14.550 How did you like spending the night with Nana and Grandad? 62 00:04:14.585 --> 00:04:16.750 Hello! - He wants to see his mum. 63 00:04:16.785 --> 00:04:18.686 Did you forget your kecks? - Is that a problem? 64 00:04:18.721 --> 00:04:21.689 He's got great legs. Look at my lovely boy! 65 00:04:21.724 --> 00:04:24.054 He's our lovely boy. - Are you our lovely boy? 66 00:04:24.089 --> 00:04:26.496 Are you our lovely boy? - Are you two not ready yet? 67 00:04:26.531 --> 00:04:28.399 Do you know what time it is? - : Er, tranquillo. 68 00:04:28.434 --> 00:04:29.763 Dad, be honest, is this tie straight? 69 00:04:29.798 --> 00:04:31.468 It's straight. Come on, get a move on. 70 00:04:31.503 --> 00:04:33.569 Don't muss him all up, you. Took me forever getting him dressed. 71 00:04:33.604 --> 00:04:35.098 You might have to do the same for Brian. 72 00:04:35.133 --> 00:04:36.935 Wouldn't be the first time. Give that here 73 00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:39.707 and get your trousers on. - Right, that's it. Chop chop. 74 00:04:39.742 --> 00:04:42.314 I'm putting you two on the clock. T-minus ten. 75 00:04:56.660 --> 00:04:58.495 : 23 years in the Army, son. 76 00:04:58.530 --> 00:05:00.090 It never took me to places like this. 77 00:05:13.809 --> 00:05:16.975 : On the 14th of May 2004, Lance Corporal Brian Wood 78 00:05:17.010 --> 00:05:18.746 was sent to the aid of comrades 79 00:05:18.781 --> 00:05:21.551 ambushed under enemy fire at Checkpoint Danny Boy. 80 00:05:22.785 --> 00:05:24.081 In recognition of his leadership 81 00:05:24.116 --> 00:05:25.687 courage and selfless action 82 00:05:25.722 --> 00:05:28.052 during some of the fiercest fighting in Iraq 83 00:05:28.087 --> 00:05:31.330 Lance Corporal Wood receives the Military Cross for gallantry. 84 00:05:35.127 --> 00:05:36.863 : Come on, Brian. Keep up. 85 00:05:36.898 --> 00:05:39.734 : He does know other stuff, but mainly he's keepers. 86 00:05:39.769 --> 00:05:41.736 : Don't tell me they have a coach just for goalies. 87 00:05:41.771 --> 00:05:43.738 : Anyway, he asked me to be the one taking penalties 88 00:05:43.773 --> 00:05:45.773 for the goalies to have penalty-taking practice 89 00:05:45.808 --> 00:05:47.709 cos he said they can never tell where I was gonna go 90 00:05:47.744 --> 00:05:49.711 and also I could put it where I wanted it to go. 91 00:05:49.746 --> 00:05:51.713 Whereas a lot of the other kids just froze up 92 00:05:51.748 --> 00:05:53.616 when it came to spot kicks, or looked at the keepers 93 00:05:53.651 --> 00:05:55.387 and lost their concentration. And he said-- 94 00:05:55.422 --> 00:05:58.390 OK, OK, Brian. - "Keep it brief." 95 00:05:58.425 --> 00:05:59.820 : Keep it brief. 96 00:06:00.592 --> 00:06:02.592 So, you wanted to come out running. 97 00:06:02.627 --> 00:06:05.023 Let's see what you're made of. - Yeah? 98 00:06:05.058 --> 00:06:06.090 : Yeah. 99 00:06:06.664 --> 00:06:07.828 Alright. - Yeah! 100 00:06:07.863 --> 00:06:08.796 Alright! 101 00:06:19.446 --> 00:06:20.841 : It begins with R, Brian! 102 00:06:25.012 --> 00:06:26.616 Resilience. 103 00:06:28.917 --> 00:06:30.081 Dad! 104 00:06:51.775 --> 00:06:53.775 : Alright, Woody? Where's your medal? 105 00:07:21.574 --> 00:07:22.870 : Sir, what's it like 106 00:07:22.905 --> 00:07:25.070 jumping out of a Warrior under fire? 107 00:07:25.105 --> 00:07:26.874 That's a good question. 108 00:07:26.909 --> 00:07:29.239 It's, er, Johnno, right? - Sir. 109 00:07:31.749 --> 00:07:33.144 Johnno, I'm here today to tell you 110 00:07:33.179 --> 00:07:34.519 all about the realities of war. 111 00:07:37.524 --> 00:07:40.283 And maybe one of the realities of war is it's not so easy 112 00:07:40.318 --> 00:07:41.724 to stand up and talk about it. 113 00:07:44.894 --> 00:07:46.256 And you're gonna have guys out there 114 00:07:46.291 --> 00:07:48.258 who are making a big song and dance about what they did 115 00:07:48.293 --> 00:07:49.666 getting their names in the paper. 116 00:07:49.701 --> 00:07:50.997 Good luck to them. 117 00:07:51.230 --> 00:07:52.933 I'll let you make your own judgment about that. 118 00:07:52.968 --> 00:07:54.231 I've got nothing to say about that. 119 00:07:56.708 --> 00:07:58.235 You know what I was focusing on? 120 00:08:00.173 --> 00:08:02.679 Eh? Anyone? 121 00:08:04.342 --> 00:08:06.617 I wasn't thinking about being brave 122 00:08:06.652 --> 00:08:09.213 being a hero, or winning medals. 123 00:08:09.622 --> 00:08:11.589 I was focusing on destroying the enemy 124 00:08:11.624 --> 00:08:13.591 and keeping myself and my men alive. 125 00:08:15.287 --> 00:08:17.023 I was fighting my own fight. 126 00:08:18.026 --> 00:08:20.290 I wasn't worried about what everybody else was doing. 127 00:08:20.325 --> 00:08:22.666 Alright? That's a sure-fire way to get yourself-- 128 00:08:22.701 --> 00:08:24.668 - Corporal Wood? 129 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:27.605 Yeah? 130 00:08:34.273 --> 00:08:36.713 Spencer. HE CLEARS THROAT 131 00:08:47.286 --> 00:08:49.121 I'm teaching. What's this about? 132 00:08:49.893 --> 00:08:51.189 We just want a little chat with you. 133 00:08:51.224 --> 00:08:52.630 A little chat? 134 00:08:53.391 --> 00:08:55.765 Congratulations on the medal, Corporal. 135 00:08:55.965 --> 00:08:57.569 Are you gonna tell me what this is about? 136 00:08:58.330 --> 00:08:59.802 We will, yeah. 137 00:09:10.309 --> 00:09:13.750 You just take a seat here for me, please, Corporal Wood. 138 00:09:16.018 --> 00:09:18.084 We're gonna show you photos, Corporal 139 00:09:18.119 --> 00:09:21.758 from the Battle of Danny Boy, from its aftermath. 140 00:09:21.793 --> 00:09:23.826 You tell us if you recognise anyone in them. 141 00:09:25.291 --> 00:09:26.565 OK? 142 00:09:42.044 --> 00:09:43.109 And this one? 143 00:09:46.686 --> 00:09:48.081 What's this about? 144 00:09:48.116 --> 00:09:51.018 Just whether you know who these people are, Corporal. 145 00:09:51.053 --> 00:09:52.085 No. 146 00:10:01.767 --> 00:10:03.096 That's my unit. 147 00:10:05.331 --> 00:10:06.363 : Him? 148 00:10:08.972 --> 00:10:10.873 Do you recognise this detainee, Corporal Wood? 149 00:10:16.045 --> 00:10:17.143 Yeah, I, um... 150 00:10:18.344 --> 00:10:19.783 I took him prisoner. 151 00:10:19.818 --> 00:10:21.015 And what was the manner of that? 152 00:10:23.481 --> 00:10:26.185 Do you recall the rules of engagement, Corporal Wood? 153 00:10:29.421 --> 00:10:32.290 Yes. - So you took this man prisoner. 154 00:10:35.229 --> 00:10:38.263 Tell me about the use of force. - He gave himself up. 155 00:10:38.298 --> 00:10:39.737 He was armed? 156 00:10:40.839 --> 00:10:43.004 Was he just a man in a field, or...? 157 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:44.808 No, he was armed. 158 00:10:44.843 --> 00:10:46.711 The CSM shouted, "Drop your weapons," and he did. 159 00:10:46.746 --> 00:10:47.877 The CSM just shouted-- 160 00:10:47.912 --> 00:10:49.747 "Drop your fucking weapons," yeah. 161 00:10:52.785 --> 00:10:54.345 You'd drop 'em, wouldn't you? 162 00:10:54.754 --> 00:10:56.413 You met the CSM. 163 00:10:56.855 --> 00:10:58.888 Was he barefoot when you took him prisoner? 164 00:11:03.829 --> 00:11:05.928 Yeah. - Did you plasticuff him? 165 00:11:07.096 --> 00:11:09.899 No, no, not at the time, no. - Did you offer him water? 166 00:11:13.267 --> 00:11:15.003 Not that I recall. 167 00:11:15.038 --> 00:11:16.807 I'd have thought that date was printed on your memory. 168 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:21.977 It is. 169 00:11:27.215 --> 00:11:29.050 So, did you offer him water... 170 00:11:31.054 --> 00:11:32.317 Corporal Wood? 171 00:11:36.026 --> 00:11:37.355 Did you? 172 00:11:39.766 --> 00:11:41.293 Did you offer him water? - Corporal Wood-- 173 00:11:41.328 --> 00:11:42.701 Or were you not there? 174 00:11:56.409 --> 00:11:59.377 Sorry, say again, Stick. You want us to dismount into that? 175 00:11:59.412 --> 00:12:01.753 : They've got two men down. They need help. 176 00:12:01.788 --> 00:12:02.820 Prep the boys for dismount. 177 00:12:05.825 --> 00:12:07.187 OK, lads. You're on your own. 178 00:12:07.222 --> 00:12:08.859 You ready for this? - 179 00:12:08.894 --> 00:12:10.795 Rushy, you ready for this? - Yes. 180 00:12:10.830 --> 00:12:13.094 Spud? Let's do this! Go, go, go! 181 00:12:33.545 --> 00:12:35.578 : Enemy, bridge line. We close with the enemy 182 00:12:35.613 --> 00:12:37.283 we take position one, yeah? 183 00:12:37.318 --> 00:12:39.120 : But that's 120 metres away! 184 00:12:41.421 --> 00:12:42.486 Right, he's firing us in! 185 00:12:42.521 --> 00:12:45.324 Five, four, three, 186 00:12:45.997 --> 00:12:47.227 two, one! 187 00:12:53.004 --> 00:12:53.970 On me! 188 00:12:57.844 --> 00:12:58.810 50 metres! 189 00:13:03.949 --> 00:13:05.080 : Go, go, go! 190 00:13:10.450 --> 00:13:12.824 Get your hands up now! 191 00:13:13.420 --> 00:13:15.090 On the ground now! 192 00:13:15.125 --> 00:13:18.027 Get the fuck on the ground now! You fucking... Shut the fuck up! 193 00:13:22.033 --> 00:13:23.232 : Where'd the rest of them go? 194 00:13:23.268 --> 00:13:25.034 : They could be back any minute. Get the cuffs on. 195 00:13:27.874 --> 00:13:30.468 Position one. Not a scratch on us, boys. 196 00:13:30.503 --> 00:13:32.338 British fighting spirit done that, mate. 197 00:13:32.373 --> 00:13:34.076 Here we go, lads. Get in. 198 00:13:51.491 --> 00:13:54.228 Wait there, wait there. I'll be right down. 199 00:14:00.533 --> 00:14:01.873 Morning. 200 00:14:02.337 --> 00:14:04.271 Put this intercom and security in 201 00:14:04.306 --> 00:14:05.976 because of all the threats against us. 202 00:14:06.011 --> 00:14:07.571 It doesn't work properly 203 00:14:08.112 --> 00:14:11.047 so I spend all my time running up and down these stairs. 204 00:14:11.544 --> 00:14:13.511 It won't be the nutjobs that kill me. 205 00:14:13.546 --> 00:14:15.117 It'll be the exhaustion. 206 00:14:15.152 --> 00:14:17.185 Thanks for coming up to the office to see me. 207 00:14:17.220 --> 00:14:19.550 It'll give you a chance to see the job the way it really is. 208 00:14:20.091 --> 00:14:21.585 Of course, I'm too bloody busy 209 00:14:21.620 --> 00:14:23.895 to get up to the university at the moment. 210 00:14:25.558 --> 00:14:28.262 Some of you will end up in big fuck-off law practices 211 00:14:28.297 --> 00:14:31.265 in the City with smoked glass and neck massages 212 00:14:31.300 --> 00:14:34.268 but the vast majority of lawyers work like this. 213 00:14:34.303 --> 00:14:36.270 You'll need to get your brains around that. 214 00:14:36.305 --> 00:14:38.371 Right, straight through, in here, come on. 215 00:14:39.605 --> 00:14:42.573 My advice is go running 216 00:14:43.543 --> 00:14:46.951 do yoga, start flower-arranging. 217 00:14:47.382 --> 00:14:49.954 Anything to give you a sense of perspective. 218 00:14:51.254 --> 00:14:52.418 This job will eat you up 219 00:14:52.453 --> 00:14:54.189 and spit you out if you're not careful. 220 00:14:54.224 --> 00:14:55.553 Who wants tea? - Me. 221 00:14:55.588 --> 00:14:57.588 Ah. What's your name? 222 00:14:57.623 --> 00:14:59.095 Deena. - Sugar? 223 00:14:59.460 --> 00:15:00.558 Two, please. - Ah. 224 00:15:01.495 --> 00:15:03.495 Oh, shit. There is none. 225 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:09.369 Er, right. So, you want to be human rights lawyers. 226 00:15:09.767 --> 00:15:12.537 What's the first quality you're going to need? Hm? 227 00:15:14.145 --> 00:15:16.046 Got some sachets here somewhere. 228 00:15:16.510 --> 00:15:17.949 Come on, I won't bite. 229 00:15:17.984 --> 00:15:20.116 Compassion? - Compassion? OK. 230 00:15:20.745 --> 00:15:22.085 Anything else? 231 00:15:23.385 --> 00:15:25.055 Empathy? - A thick skin. 232 00:15:25.486 --> 00:15:27.552 You're going to need a thick skin. 233 00:15:27.587 --> 00:15:29.257 And why do I say that, Deena? 234 00:15:29.292 --> 00:15:30.720 Because some of the things we might be doing-- 235 00:15:30.755 --> 00:15:33.228 Because people will tear you up. 236 00:15:33.263 --> 00:15:36.132 Politicians, the press, the establishment. 237 00:15:36.629 --> 00:15:39.971 It doesn't matter how clear it is to you 238 00:15:40.006 --> 00:15:41.698 that human rights are sacrosanct 239 00:15:41.733 --> 00:15:43.535 and you have a duty to protect them 240 00:15:43.570 --> 00:15:45.042 whoever's they might be. 241 00:15:46.210 --> 00:15:48.309 Other people will tell you different. 242 00:15:48.344 --> 00:15:50.212 They'll tell you you're a bleeding heart 243 00:15:50.247 --> 00:15:51.378 they'll tell you you're naive 244 00:15:51.413 --> 00:15:53.116 they'll tell you you're money-grubbing. 245 00:15:53.151 --> 00:15:55.118 Why do they say those things? 246 00:15:55.153 --> 00:15:56.746 Hm? Mush? Why do they say those things? 247 00:15:58.090 --> 00:16:00.222 Who? The-- - Because now and then 248 00:16:00.257 --> 00:16:02.026 you're going to have to tell them things 249 00:16:02.061 --> 00:16:04.061 they really don't want to hear. 250 00:16:05.328 --> 00:16:06.591 And here's one of them. 251 00:16:08.133 --> 00:16:10.595 British soldiers get away with murder. 252 00:16:12.038 --> 00:16:13.237 Who's heard of Baha Mousa? 253 00:16:14.403 --> 00:16:18.306 Couple of years ago, Iraqi lad, worked in a hotel in Basra. 254 00:16:18.539 --> 00:16:20.473 About the same age as you lot. He's, uh... 255 00:16:21.839 --> 00:16:25.016 He's a father of two kids aged two and four. 256 00:16:25.051 --> 00:16:27.315 He's dead, right? - He is now, yes. 257 00:16:27.713 --> 00:16:29.317 Brace yourselves. 258 00:16:30.221 --> 00:16:34.058 That's him after a period at Her Majesty's pleasure. 259 00:16:36.557 --> 00:16:40.823 So, on behalf of his family, I respectfully argued in court 260 00:16:40.858 --> 00:16:44.233 that Baha Mousa, in British custody in Iraq 261 00:16:44.268 --> 00:16:46.664 had the same human rights as any other prisoner 262 00:16:46.699 --> 00:16:49.271 in any other British jail. 263 00:16:49.306 --> 00:16:52.637 Doesn't matter if it's in Basra or in Birmingham. 264 00:16:53.178 --> 00:16:54.573 Anyone want to argue with that? 265 00:16:54.608 --> 00:16:56.377 The MOD. - Ha! 266 00:16:56.412 --> 00:16:58.742 The Ministry of Defence, very good, they did indeed 267 00:16:58.777 --> 00:17:02.119 because it made their job much more difficult. 268 00:17:02.154 --> 00:17:05.782 But the High Court and the Court of Appeal agreed with me. 269 00:17:05.817 --> 00:17:10.160 British law applies wherever British soldiers have command. 270 00:17:10.195 --> 00:17:12.327 Anybody want to argue with that principle? 271 00:17:13.297 --> 00:17:14.791 Well, you want to be human rights lawyers 272 00:17:14.826 --> 00:17:16.265 so I bloody well hope not. 273 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:18.762 But here's my question. 274 00:17:20.172 --> 00:17:22.733 Tell you what, everyone, come here. Put your drinks down. 275 00:17:22.768 --> 00:17:25.043 Come round here. Come on, chop chop. 276 00:17:25.606 --> 00:17:26.605 Over here. 277 00:17:27.740 --> 00:17:28.805 Right. 278 00:17:29.643 --> 00:17:31.247 Here's Baha Mousa. 279 00:17:31.678 --> 00:17:35.713 Face-down in the dirt with British soldiers all around him 280 00:17:35.748 --> 00:17:38.452 with their SA80s pointed down at him. 281 00:17:38.487 --> 00:17:42.258 That's you lot, come on. SA80s pointed down at him. 282 00:17:45.527 --> 00:17:46.526 Now... 283 00:17:48.299 --> 00:17:51.828 we teach our soldiers how to kill other soldiers in a war 284 00:17:51.863 --> 00:17:53.863 and there's nothing wrong with that. 285 00:17:53.898 --> 00:17:56.866 But the judge found that Baha Mousa died 286 00:17:56.901 --> 00:18:00.573 as a result of 93 injuries 287 00:18:00.608 --> 00:18:05.182 incurred over a 36-hour period in British Army custody. 288 00:18:06.779 --> 00:18:08.482 I proved that case. 289 00:18:09.353 --> 00:18:12.123 But not one soldier was found guilty of murder 290 00:18:12.158 --> 00:18:14.554 or even manslaughter or unlawful killing. 291 00:18:15.656 --> 00:18:17.821 Is it right you guys get away with murder? 292 00:18:18.527 --> 00:18:19.889 Put your guns down. 293 00:18:22.894 --> 00:18:26.830 So how come it's me that's a disgrace to my country? 294 00:18:42.815 --> 00:18:45.519 Shh! - Bloody push-ups? 295 00:18:45.818 --> 00:18:47.257 - 296 00:19:00.800 --> 00:19:02.470 Say if I'm buttering too loud for you. 297 00:19:04.804 --> 00:19:07.871 Brian, I just thought you might call out to him or something. 298 00:19:07.906 --> 00:19:09.708 I've been up with him since four. 299 00:19:09.743 --> 00:19:11.446 I, uh... HE COUGHS 300 00:19:12.317 --> 00:19:14.218 I tried to get up for him but he didn't want me. 301 00:19:17.256 --> 00:19:18.519 It's gonna take time. 302 00:19:22.360 --> 00:19:23.557 You want him like this, don't you? 303 00:19:25.660 --> 00:19:26.758 You want him all yours. 304 00:19:27.827 --> 00:19:29.596 I'm not starting all that again. 305 00:19:29.631 --> 00:19:32.236 If it's a problem at work, let's talk about it. 306 00:19:59.463 --> 00:20:01.661 Who is it? - Is that Phil Shiner? 307 00:20:03.929 --> 00:20:05.500 Who wants to know? 308 00:20:05.535 --> 00:20:07.502 David Monaghan. I'm a journalist. 309 00:20:07.867 --> 00:20:08.899 You agreed to meet me. 310 00:20:18.075 --> 00:20:19.250 Did I? 311 00:20:21.518 --> 00:20:22.913 The Battle of Danny Boy. 312 00:20:24.818 --> 00:20:25.850 Right. 313 00:20:27.392 --> 00:20:28.292 Right. 314 00:20:30.692 --> 00:20:34.562 Iraqi farmers, apparently, at work in their fields 315 00:20:35.565 --> 00:20:37.895 when the Princess of Wales Regiment happened along. 316 00:20:41.307 --> 00:20:43.637 With Baha Mousa, you proved a single act 317 00:20:43.672 --> 00:20:46.002 of terrible inhumanity. This could be 20. 318 00:20:47.313 --> 00:20:48.873 It's not a head count. 319 00:20:48.908 --> 00:20:51.876 Footage of the dead bodies was filmed by Al Jazeera and... 320 00:20:53.451 --> 00:20:55.715 there's some trophy photos floating around 321 00:20:55.750 --> 00:20:57.420 taken by British soldiers. 322 00:20:58.016 --> 00:20:59.653 The Red Cross demanded an inquiry 323 00:20:59.688 --> 00:21:01.622 within days of what happened. 324 00:21:01.657 --> 00:21:03.690 Military Police picked it up but it's going nowhere. 325 00:21:05.122 --> 00:21:07.364 Loads of inconsistencies in what they did find. 326 00:21:08.895 --> 00:21:10.026 Something stinks. 327 00:21:13.438 --> 00:21:16.032 Make your programme. Get it on the screen. 328 00:21:16.067 --> 00:21:17.968 Tell the world. - I intend to. 329 00:21:19.741 --> 00:21:21.510 So why do you need me? 330 00:21:21.545 --> 00:21:24.073 I don't need you, Phil. These people might. 331 00:21:27.144 --> 00:21:30.079 Have you got any idea the amount of work this would take? 332 00:21:30.114 --> 00:21:32.290 How busy I am already? - Just read it. 333 00:21:32.754 --> 00:21:33.885 What have you got to lose? 334 00:21:52.774 --> 00:21:53.674 Night, Phil. 335 00:21:55.007 --> 00:21:56.380 Night. 336 00:22:45.090 --> 00:22:46.496 Mazin, hi. 337 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:50.126 Yeah, thanks for getting back to me. 338 00:22:52.834 --> 00:22:55.406 That's right, that's right. Listen, I might need you 339 00:22:55.441 --> 00:22:58.409 to go back to Iraq for me. Something new. 340 00:22:58.444 --> 00:22:59.806 Same arrangement? 341 00:23:00.578 --> 00:23:02.479 Same arrangement as before, only... 342 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:05.944 the scale of this thing could be huge 343 00:23:05.979 --> 00:23:08.749 so I'd need you to track down witnesses 344 00:23:08.784 --> 00:23:11.081 sound them out, and I'll meet them in Istanbul. 345 00:23:13.624 --> 00:23:14.623 Right. 346 00:23:51.992 --> 00:23:53.222 : Babe. 347 00:23:53.928 --> 00:23:54.993 Babe. 348 00:23:55.864 --> 00:23:57.468 He went to sleep. Shh! 349 00:23:57.503 --> 00:23:59.503 : He went to sleep! Oh! 350 00:24:01.804 --> 00:24:02.869 You're a star. 351 00:24:04.103 --> 00:24:05.608 Come on! 352 00:24:05.808 --> 00:24:07.610 That's the first time he's went to sleep for me. 353 00:24:09.108 --> 00:24:11.009 : I mean it, you're a star. 354 00:24:11.044 --> 00:24:13.682 You're getting there with him. - The sleep master. 355 00:24:19.085 --> 00:24:21.250 What? - Nothing. 356 00:24:22.286 --> 00:24:24.088 Nothing... - No, babe, what? 357 00:24:28.127 --> 00:24:29.962 You were like you used to be just then. 358 00:24:30.833 --> 00:24:32.470 When you came through that door. 359 00:24:33.066 --> 00:24:35.869 Can't we have a happy moment? 360 00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:38.069 I just took my son up to bed. 361 00:24:38.104 --> 00:24:39.642 I got him off to sleep for the first time. 362 00:24:39.677 --> 00:24:41.512 That's me, I'm being a dad, I'm being a proper dad. 363 00:24:42.075 --> 00:24:43.877 I am happy. 364 00:24:43.912 --> 00:24:44.845 You don't look happy. 365 00:24:47.179 --> 00:24:48.849 I was at the doctor today 366 00:24:48.884 --> 00:24:50.950 getting a prescription for sleeping pills. 367 00:24:51.315 --> 00:24:54.085 Every other night, you're waking up not knowing where you are. 368 00:24:54.989 --> 00:24:57.858 Yeah, well, no doubt about where I am before I'm waking up. 369 00:24:58.190 --> 00:24:59.926 OK. 370 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.897 Come on. Let's talk about that. 371 00:25:06.066 --> 00:25:07.769 What's going on, Brian? 372 00:25:09.069 --> 00:25:11.168 You really think, don't you 373 00:25:11.203 --> 00:25:14.237 that if you don't say anything's wrong then nothing's wrong? 374 00:25:30.288 --> 00:25:31.760 I feel like you don't want me home. 375 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:34.290 OK? 376 00:25:38.131 --> 00:25:40.670 And I feel like every fucking thing I do is wrong. 377 00:26:12.297 --> 00:26:13.934 I don't know any more than you do. 378 00:26:24.144 --> 00:26:25.110 Ho! 379 00:26:26.344 --> 00:26:27.783 We going on this run, or what? 380 00:26:56.473 --> 00:26:58.044 I thought we were running together. 381 00:27:01.412 --> 00:27:04.787 Fifteen years retired, I am. - Not whingeing, are we? 382 00:27:06.791 --> 00:27:08.890 It wasn't cruelty I was teaching you, Brian. 383 00:27:09.992 --> 00:27:12.388 It was resilience. - Yeah, I know that, Dad. 384 00:27:13.226 --> 00:27:14.764 I got that. You did that. 385 00:27:19.804 --> 00:27:20.737 Look, son... 386 00:27:22.070 --> 00:27:23.366 Your mother's worried about you. 387 00:27:24.468 --> 00:27:25.973 Is everything OK with you and Lucy? 388 00:27:27.438 --> 00:27:29.273 Yeah. No, it's, um... 389 00:27:30.749 --> 00:27:33.849 You know, one minute I was in Al Amara 390 00:27:33.884 --> 00:27:36.181 and the next minute I was going in through the door 391 00:27:36.216 --> 00:27:39.085 and seeing my baby boy for the first time, so... 392 00:27:39.285 --> 00:27:40.724 You know, it's gonna, um... 393 00:27:42.959 --> 00:27:44.662 You know, it's gonna be a... 394 00:27:55.202 --> 00:27:56.399 You never killed anybody. 395 00:27:58.139 --> 00:27:59.336 No. 396 00:28:03.276 --> 00:28:04.748 It never fell to me to do it. 397 00:28:06.147 --> 00:28:07.113 But if it had, I woulda. 398 00:28:08.215 --> 00:28:10.985 Mind you, it was Northern Ireland, it's different. 399 00:28:11.020 --> 00:28:12.789 You couldnae tell who was friend, who was foe. 400 00:28:12.824 --> 00:28:14.516 And it's Northern Ireland. 401 00:28:14.551 --> 00:28:16.793 They're our own people, it's the UK. 402 00:28:16.828 --> 00:28:19.829 You know, I trained for it, and I did it and it works 403 00:28:20.766 --> 00:28:22.095 and you think... 404 00:28:22.361 --> 00:28:25.494 "Fuck," you know, "I'm alive and he's dead." 405 00:28:26.464 --> 00:28:27.969 And then after... 406 00:28:35.176 --> 00:28:37.044 You know we're here for you, right? 407 00:28:37.882 --> 00:28:40.817 Yeah. Then the RMP come knocking on your door-- 408 00:28:40.852 --> 00:28:43.314 The RMP? Are you kidding? 409 00:28:43.349 --> 00:28:45.756 A decorated war hero? Tell 'em to piss off! 410 00:28:45.791 --> 00:28:48.759 You can't just tell them... They get your head in a spin, Dad. 411 00:28:48.794 --> 00:28:50.057 You start thinking what you did 412 00:28:50.092 --> 00:28:53.093 or didn't-- - You did a good job, son. 413 00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:54.864 That's what you did. 414 00:28:56.131 --> 00:28:57.328 Hey. 415 00:28:59.563 --> 00:29:01.332 For 300 years 416 00:29:01.906 --> 00:29:03.400 this family served this country. 417 00:29:04.337 --> 00:29:05.743 Twelve generations. 418 00:29:06.372 --> 00:29:07.470 Those guys... 419 00:29:08.946 --> 00:29:10.407 they're right here with us. 420 00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:16.886 OK. 421 00:29:20.353 --> 00:29:21.385 Brian? 422 00:29:22.554 --> 00:29:25.257 Aye, he's alright. Just doesnae like losing, that's all. 423 00:29:25.292 --> 00:29:26.797 He's not the only one. 424 00:29:26.832 --> 00:29:28.491 : Come on. In we go. 425 00:29:37.502 --> 00:29:39.139 ...your fucking mouth, mate! 426 00:29:39.174 --> 00:29:41.779 Shut your mouth! - I tell you right now, mate. 427 00:29:45.543 --> 00:29:46.817 Get a blindfold on him! 428 00:29:49.151 --> 00:29:50.414 Where'd the rest of them go? 429 00:29:50.449 --> 00:29:52.119 They could be back any minute. Get your cuffs on. 430 00:29:52.154 --> 00:29:53.153 Blindfolds! Blindfolds! 431 00:29:54.387 --> 00:29:56.387 - Are we good? 432 00:29:57.159 --> 00:29:59.060 Everyone OK? - All good. 433 00:30:00.426 --> 00:30:03.262 Boys, keep your heads down. Remember, two-way range. 434 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:09.499 Is the battlefield clear? - No, sir. 435 00:30:10.172 --> 00:30:11.105 No. 436 00:30:13.010 --> 00:30:16.110 Right. Leave this shower to your men. You come with me. 437 00:31:11.662 --> 00:31:13.101 : Woody, walk on! 438 00:31:36.060 --> 00:31:38.423 We're over-committed. Woody, back this way, come on. 439 00:31:39.998 --> 00:31:41.393 Drop your fucking weapons! 440 00:31:41.428 --> 00:31:44.000 - Put your fucking hands up now! 441 00:31:44.266 --> 00:31:45.232 Now! Here! 442 00:31:46.235 --> 00:31:47.663 Hands up! Get your hands up right now! To me. 443 00:31:49.271 --> 00:31:51.073 You. - Arms. 444 00:31:54.012 --> 00:31:55.638 He's good. To me now. - Come here. 445 00:31:55.673 --> 00:31:57.574 To me. Do you speak English? 446 00:31:58.148 --> 00:31:59.048 Stay there. 447 00:32:02.053 --> 00:32:03.448 He's clean. 448 00:32:03.483 --> 00:32:05.285 Move, now! - Go! 449 00:32:07.058 --> 00:32:08.321 Why didn't they shoot us? 450 00:32:10.655 --> 00:32:13.656 Hey! Why didn't you shoot us? We never even saw you. 451 00:32:16.298 --> 00:32:17.528 What kind of soldiers are you? 452 00:32:22.601 --> 00:32:23.974 Go, go! 453 00:32:25.043 --> 00:32:26.977 Keep going! - 454 00:32:27.012 --> 00:32:28.077 Lose our lives over a flip-flop? 455 00:32:29.212 --> 00:32:31.949 Lose this again, I'm throwing it! 456 00:32:36.516 --> 00:32:39.088 Go! Go! - 457 00:32:40.157 --> 00:32:41.519 Yeah, in English, mate. 458 00:32:41.554 --> 00:32:43.455 Farmer! - Farmer? 459 00:32:43.490 --> 00:32:45.127 He's a farmer? 460 00:32:45.162 --> 00:32:46.755 You're farmers, I'm a fucking Brigadier, mate. 461 00:32:48.165 --> 00:32:49.428 How old are you? 462 00:32:49.760 --> 00:32:52.332 - Stay there. 463 00:32:55.106 --> 00:32:56.303 16! 464 00:32:56.668 --> 00:32:57.700 : Stay there! 465 00:32:58.175 --> 00:32:59.438 Get a move on. - Go. 466 00:33:01.310 --> 00:33:02.474 Go. 467 00:33:35.740 --> 00:33:38.576 : 468 00:33:56.893 --> 00:34:00.466 : 469 00:34:00.501 --> 00:34:01.830 Has he had his expenses? 470 00:34:02.536 --> 00:34:04.536 : 471 00:34:06.672 --> 00:34:08.078 His mother has. 472 00:34:08.113 --> 00:34:11.609 Istanbul interviews, day two. Time, 9:30am. 473 00:34:17.683 --> 00:34:21.487 He was face-down in the ditch. He could hear soldiers coming. 474 00:34:21.819 --> 00:34:26.393 Take him back to the beginning. Family set-up and all that. 475 00:34:28.628 --> 00:34:30.661 Mother and sister hated Saddam 476 00:34:30.696 --> 00:34:33.334 because Saddam killed their uncle and cousin. 477 00:34:33.600 --> 00:34:36.700 All family happy to see British soldiers when they came. 478 00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:38.405 Friends bringing freedom. 479 00:34:39.342 --> 00:34:41.210 Does he work? School? 480 00:34:56.161 --> 00:34:58.524 School in the mornings, farm in the afternoons. 481 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.098 That day he had to cut fresh grass for his cow. 482 00:35:01.958 --> 00:35:03.562 Did he have a gun with him? 483 00:35:13.772 --> 00:35:17.213 For wolves, for bandits. Kalashnikov. 484 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.252 Er, Iraqi men in black clothes with guns got out of trucks 485 00:35:23.287 --> 00:35:24.946 and spread in the field near the farm. 486 00:35:29.392 --> 00:35:31.623 : And when the British came past, there was shooting 487 00:35:31.658 --> 00:35:33.856 and he lay down in the ditch, facing the ditch. 488 00:35:40.403 --> 00:35:43.635 He was bleeding, crying, asking them, "Please, stop." 489 00:35:43.670 --> 00:35:46.176 They drag him a long, long way 490 00:35:46.211 --> 00:35:48.409 throw him in the vehicle with dead bodies. 491 00:35:49.940 --> 00:35:50.939 And... 492 00:35:52.349 --> 00:35:53.942 what... what happened to his weapon? 493 00:36:01.787 --> 00:36:03.226 He didn't have weapon. 494 00:36:05.758 --> 00:36:08.495 He said just now he did. A Kalashnikov? 495 00:36:12.996 --> 00:36:14.831 He had weapon but only at home. 496 00:36:16.604 --> 00:36:19.374 I need to know whether he was carrying the weapon that day. 497 00:36:20.872 --> 00:36:25.413 Hm? Ask him, because in his previous statement, here... 498 00:36:31.014 --> 00:36:32.948 : Here. He said he had it. 499 00:36:32.983 --> 00:36:35.720 Now, if he's gonna chop and change 500 00:36:35.755 --> 00:36:37.557 he'll be no good to me in the witness box. 501 00:36:41.024 --> 00:36:42.826 : As-Salaam-Alaikum. 502 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:49.866 - 503 00:36:50.671 --> 00:36:52.033 What's he saying? 504 00:36:52.068 --> 00:36:53.870 He says he's been waiting two hours and he needs to eat. 505 00:36:53.905 --> 00:36:56.004 Oh, does he need money for food? 506 00:36:57.040 --> 00:37:00.481 : 507 00:37:00.516 --> 00:37:02.252 No, he doesn't need money. I'm telling him 508 00:37:02.287 --> 00:37:05.651 we're not finished with this guy yet, but he's insisting. 509 00:37:05.851 --> 00:37:07.015 Maybe we are... 510 00:37:07.622 --> 00:37:10.326 Maybe we are finished here. Thank you. 511 00:37:15.465 --> 00:37:16.695 Thank you. Please. 512 00:37:23.770 --> 00:37:24.967 Please. 513 00:37:28.379 --> 00:37:30.907 And your name is...? - Hussein. 514 00:37:30.942 --> 00:37:32.249 : Hussein. 515 00:37:34.748 --> 00:37:36.913 And were you at the Battle of Danny Boy? 516 00:37:37.421 --> 00:37:39.685 Yes. - And why were you there? 517 00:37:45.121 --> 00:37:47.022 He is saying that he is-- 518 00:37:47.057 --> 00:37:48.661 Not fighter. 519 00:37:48.894 --> 00:37:51.466 I am farmer. Farmer. 520 00:37:57.606 --> 00:37:59.034 : Come on, then. The guys are out the back. 521 00:37:59.069 --> 00:38:01.509 Hey, you alright? Yeah! Just go through. 522 00:38:01.544 --> 00:38:02.376 Hi. 523 00:38:04.140 --> 00:38:05.909 : Nice one, Bailey, keep bouncing! 524 00:38:14.590 --> 00:38:17.492 It's not like you, hanging back when there's meat on the grill. 525 00:38:17.989 --> 00:38:20.627 Just taking it all in, you know? A happy family. 526 00:38:27.636 --> 00:38:29.900 Y'know, I'm only here cos of what two guys did out there. 527 00:38:31.376 --> 00:38:32.903 What, your mates had your back? 528 00:38:33.807 --> 00:38:35.004 It was Iraqis. 529 00:38:35.380 --> 00:38:36.643 Could've killed me, but didn't. 530 00:38:38.548 --> 00:38:40.009 What sort of soldier's that? 531 00:38:40.946 --> 00:38:42.352 What sort of soldier 532 00:38:42.387 --> 00:38:43.749 won't even fire his weapon? - Brian-- 533 00:38:43.784 --> 00:38:45.388 What sort of soldier wears flipflops and a dishdash? 534 00:38:45.423 --> 00:38:46.323 Brian. 535 00:38:48.019 --> 00:38:49.359 You might only be here 536 00:38:49.394 --> 00:38:50.954 because of those two guys, but you are here. 537 00:38:50.989 --> 00:38:53.121 No. - No? 538 00:38:53.156 --> 00:38:54.659 I'm here because they didn't do what I did. 539 00:38:58.568 --> 00:39:00.095 You said you'd have killed if you had to. 540 00:39:05.168 --> 00:39:06.838 Well, that's when you decide who's who. 541 00:39:09.007 --> 00:39:10.512 That moment decides for you. 542 00:39:15.453 --> 00:39:17.013 The dead have questions for you, Brian. 543 00:39:19.490 --> 00:39:20.753 You need to answer them. 544 00:39:28.158 --> 00:39:29.762 : Brian! 545 00:39:35.803 --> 00:39:37.132 Deep breaths, babe, deep breaths. 546 00:39:37.167 --> 00:39:39.068 You're doing great, babe, you're doing amazing. 547 00:39:39.103 --> 00:39:40.509 Deep breaths, babe, in and out. 548 00:39:43.712 --> 00:39:45.547 I want my mum. - She's on her way. 549 00:39:45.582 --> 00:39:47.549 I can't do this. - Yes, you can, babe. 550 00:39:47.584 --> 00:39:48.880 You don't know what I can and can't do. 551 00:39:48.915 --> 00:39:50.486 I do, babe! I know you. 552 00:40:06.097 --> 00:40:07.965 : It is our contention 553 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:11.067 that British soldiers abused and mistreated Iraqis 554 00:40:11.102 --> 00:40:12.970 on the battlefield at Danny Boy 555 00:40:13.005 --> 00:40:17.007 and afterwards at their base, at Camp Abu Naji. 556 00:40:18.945 --> 00:40:20.109 More than that... 557 00:40:21.378 --> 00:40:25.180 we believe that many of those killed, injured or detained... 558 00:40:26.755 --> 00:40:28.183 were not soldiers at all. 559 00:40:29.659 --> 00:40:32.528 There were farmers there, and innocent bystanders 560 00:40:32.563 --> 00:40:34.222 going about their daily business. 561 00:40:35.500 --> 00:40:39.700 We believe that the Army carried out unlawful killings. 562 00:40:39.735 --> 00:40:42.098 Perhaps up to 20. - 563 00:40:43.805 --> 00:40:45.475 Any questions, please? 564 00:40:45.708 --> 00:40:47.202 : So the Iraqis were executed? 565 00:40:48.304 --> 00:40:49.941 : That's what we need to find out. 566 00:40:51.307 --> 00:40:53.648 It's normal in that lawless part of Iraq 567 00:40:53.683 --> 00:40:55.716 for farmers to carry guns, but 568 00:40:56.147 --> 00:40:57.619 does that make them soldiers? 569 00:41:00.987 --> 00:41:03.251 : British soldiers are held to high standards 570 00:41:03.286 --> 00:41:04.890 and rightly so. 571 00:41:04.925 --> 00:41:08.124 I see it as part of my job to hold them to that. 572 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.896 And in my view, there is powerful evidence 573 00:41:10.931 --> 00:41:14.196 that on the day in question, they let this country down. 574 00:41:14.231 --> 00:41:16.099 : So categorically, you're saying 575 00:41:16.134 --> 00:41:18.739 British soldiers killed civilians in cold blood? 576 00:41:18.774 --> 00:41:21.038 : What I'm saying is the Army's own 577 00:41:21.073 --> 00:41:23.909 Military Police investigation closed too soon. 578 00:41:23.944 --> 00:41:25.240 It wasn't good enough. 579 00:41:26.410 --> 00:41:28.914 That's why we've called upon the government 580 00:41:28.949 --> 00:41:31.587 to set up a full public inquiry. 581 00:41:31.622 --> 00:41:33.622 : Brian's phone. Leave a message. 582 00:41:33.657 --> 00:41:35.118 We don't want to be talked about 583 00:41:35.153 --> 00:41:36.955 in the same way as the Japanese 584 00:41:36.990 --> 00:41:40.090 in the Second World War, or the Americans at My Lai. 585 00:41:40.125 --> 00:41:42.730 We need to get this all out in the open 586 00:41:42.765 --> 00:41:45.535 and only a public inquiry can do that. 587 00:41:45.570 --> 00:41:47.163 : Several years have passed 588 00:41:47.198 --> 00:41:49.198 since the Battle of Danny Boy, and the Ministry of Defence 589 00:41:49.233 --> 00:41:51.200 insists the allegations are unfounded 590 00:41:51.642 --> 00:41:53.301 but has promised its full cooperation. 591 00:41:56.141 --> 00:41:57.877 It's a summons to a public inquiry. 592 00:42:02.213 --> 00:42:04.048 This guy, Shiner-- - He's all talk. 593 00:42:05.018 --> 00:42:07.557 Well, he's not all talk, is he? - It'll come to nothing. 594 00:42:09.253 --> 00:42:10.659 : You're not looking! 595 00:42:12.861 --> 00:42:13.761 : Smile! 596 00:42:16.062 --> 00:42:18.062 You know how you used to complain about me 597 00:42:18.097 --> 00:42:19.536 not wanting to know what you'd done 598 00:42:20.264 --> 00:42:22.539 when you got your medal? - I was always joking. 599 00:42:23.674 --> 00:42:27.104 It's you I wanted, not your medal. 600 00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:28.171 Yeah, I know. 601 00:42:29.845 --> 00:42:30.844 Do you? 602 00:42:35.015 --> 00:42:36.179 Yeah. 603 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:40.150 Good. 604 00:42:56.872 --> 00:42:59.675 Right, show me that fucking thing! 605 00:42:59.710 --> 00:43:01.611 : Gavin! The baby. 606 00:43:02.845 --> 00:43:03.646 The baby. 607 00:43:05.683 --> 00:43:06.308 Sorry, love. 608 00:43:07.817 --> 00:43:08.750 Aye, he's lovely. 609 00:43:10.985 --> 00:43:11.852 Hi. 610 00:43:14.791 --> 00:43:16.252 : Give you a medal wi' one hand 611 00:43:16.287 --> 00:43:17.660 and knock your teeth oot wi' the other. 612 00:43:18.256 --> 00:43:19.761 They accuse you of these things 613 00:43:19.796 --> 00:43:22.027 our own government accuses you of these things 614 00:43:22.062 --> 00:43:23.633 on the say-so of what? 615 00:43:23.668 --> 00:43:25.030 The men who were trying to kill you? 616 00:43:26.264 --> 00:43:28.704 "In the Northern engagement, you participated in 617 00:43:28.739 --> 00:43:30.871 witnessed or were aware of," I mean, which one is it? 618 00:43:30.906 --> 00:43:31.938 Jesus Christ. 619 00:43:33.711 --> 00:43:35.139 There's 11 counts here. You must've been busy. 620 00:43:35.174 --> 00:43:36.305 That's all I can say. 621 00:43:38.045 --> 00:43:39.814 They probably sent the same letter to all of us, Dad. 622 00:43:39.849 --> 00:43:41.178 No, no way. Look. 623 00:43:42.346 --> 00:43:44.654 "In the course of clearing the trench with CSM Falconer 624 00:43:44.689 --> 00:43:47.151 and others, you were..." Blah-blah-blah. You. 625 00:43:47.186 --> 00:43:48.350 Nobody else. You. 626 00:43:50.728 --> 00:43:53.421 The solicitors for the Iraqis are saying that they were, um... 627 00:43:55.095 --> 00:43:56.666 farmers and not militia. 628 00:43:56.701 --> 00:43:58.668 Are they trying to tell me you wouldnae know the difference 629 00:43:58.703 --> 00:43:59.900 between a farmer and a trained killer 630 00:43:59.935 --> 00:44:01.132 working for what-was-his-name? 631 00:44:01.167 --> 00:44:02.364 Muqtada al-Sadr. - God's sake. 632 00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:05.070 Public inquiry. 633 00:44:05.875 --> 00:44:06.907 The world's gone mad. 634 00:44:27.193 --> 00:44:28.489 : Listen up. New orders. 635 00:44:28.524 --> 00:44:29.996 We've got to pick up the enemy dead 636 00:44:30.031 --> 00:44:31.162 and bring them back with us. 637 00:44:32.365 --> 00:44:34.330 Intel reports person of interest in the field today. 638 00:44:34.805 --> 00:44:36.134 Whose orders is this? 639 00:44:37.071 --> 00:44:39.973 : No one does this. We shouldn't be doing it. 640 00:44:42.912 --> 00:44:44.208 Fuck this! 641 00:44:44.243 --> 00:44:46.749 They think some local warlord is among the dead. 642 00:44:46.784 --> 00:44:48.509 So we're taking the bodies back for ID-ing. 643 00:44:48.544 --> 00:44:50.049 Falconer picked us out for it. 644 00:44:52.284 --> 00:44:54.757 Right, I'll pick him up. 645 00:44:54.792 --> 00:44:56.385 You yank his trousers back up. 646 00:44:56.959 --> 00:44:58.090 What? 647 00:44:59.896 --> 00:45:01.357 Who did all that? 648 00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:07.429 Chain gun could do that. A 30mm tank shell. 649 00:45:10.467 --> 00:45:12.137 Killing someone's one thing. 650 00:45:13.877 --> 00:45:16.405 Picking them up after, looking them in the eye... 651 00:45:19.278 --> 00:45:20.915 Tell you what I don't see. 652 00:45:20.950 --> 00:45:23.280 I don't see any village elders who sent these kids out here 653 00:45:23.315 --> 00:45:26.448 with rifles against a company full of tanks and Warriors. 654 00:46:33.649 --> 00:46:35.055 : Drop your fucking weapons! 655 00:46:36.355 --> 00:46:38.124 Killing someone's one thing. 656 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:39.994 Picking them up after, looking them in the eye... 657 00:46:40.524 --> 00:46:42.293 Why didn't they shoot us? 658 00:46:42.328 --> 00:46:43.998 Why didn't you shoot us? We never even saw you. 659 00:46:44.396 --> 00:46:45.494 What kind of soldiers are you? 660 00:46:53.240 --> 00:46:54.910 : Hey. Hey. 661 00:46:55.143 --> 00:46:56.912 Come on. Come here. 662 00:46:56.947 --> 00:46:59.046 Come on. Hey, come on. 663 00:47:00.181 --> 00:47:01.246 It's alright. 664 00:47:01.281 --> 00:47:02.412 It's alright. 665 00:47:03.888 --> 00:47:06.383 I'm here. Come on. Come inside. 666 00:47:07.991 --> 00:47:08.957 Inside. 667 00:47:30.046 --> 00:47:32.211 : When the judges approved our judicial review 668 00:47:32.477 --> 00:47:36.248 they slammed the Military Police and the Ministry of Defence 669 00:47:36.283 --> 00:47:38.184 for not going far enough. 670 00:47:38.384 --> 00:47:41.220 Took our side on every point of substance. 671 00:47:42.091 --> 00:47:45.422 Left the government no option but a full public inquiry. 672 00:47:45.655 --> 00:47:47.094 Listen to this, Patrick. 673 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:49.459 It's not some Guardian editorial. 674 00:47:49.494 --> 00:47:51.560 This is from the judge's own ruling. 675 00:47:51.595 --> 00:47:53.969 "In our view, the Military Police investigation 676 00:47:54.004 --> 00:47:56.367 relating to allegations of murder and torture 677 00:47:56.402 --> 00:47:59.271 was deficient." It wasn't fit for purpose. 678 00:47:59.702 --> 00:48:02.043 No major incident room. 679 00:48:02.078 --> 00:48:05.981 Failure to identity or interview relevant personnel. 680 00:48:06.313 --> 00:48:10.018 Failure to seize all contemporaneous records. 681 00:48:10.053 --> 00:48:11.954 Failure to interview the detainees. 682 00:48:11.989 --> 00:48:13.549 Well, you've done an amazing job, Phil 683 00:48:13.584 --> 00:48:15.254 no one's doubting that. 684 00:48:15.289 --> 00:48:18.092 Getting a public inquiry awarded is an extraordinary achievement 685 00:48:18.127 --> 00:48:19.390 for a practice this size. 686 00:48:20.261 --> 00:48:21.359 But? 687 00:48:22.197 --> 00:48:23.394 But nothing. 688 00:48:23.429 --> 00:48:26.001 So, the eminent barrister's coming on board? 689 00:48:26.036 --> 00:48:28.234 Coming on with the legal team who, uh... 690 00:48:28.269 --> 00:48:29.301 Hang on. 691 00:48:30.073 --> 00:48:31.270 Where is it? 692 00:48:31.305 --> 00:48:34.075 How did the judges describe us, Deena? 693 00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:36.077 They said we were greatly outnumbered 694 00:48:36.112 --> 00:48:37.540 by the Secretary of State's legal team 695 00:48:37.575 --> 00:48:41.082 but persisted with requests for disclosure skilfully 696 00:48:41.117 --> 00:48:42.644 and with commendable determination. 697 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.514 Commendable determination, Patrick. 698 00:48:44.549 --> 00:48:46.516 Couldn't have put it better myself. 699 00:48:46.551 --> 00:48:49.057 That war shames our nation, Patrick. 700 00:48:49.092 --> 00:48:50.619 That's not what the inquiry is about. 701 00:48:52.392 --> 00:48:54.689 Ever thought of getting a bigger office, Phil? 702 00:48:55.098 --> 00:48:57.527 Having the walls closing in concentrates the mind. 703 00:48:57.562 --> 00:49:00.068 Doesn't it, Deena? - That's the theory, yes. 704 00:49:00.103 --> 00:49:02.235 Right, so, what have you got? 705 00:49:02.600 --> 00:49:04.699 "We", Patrick. We. Come on. 706 00:49:06.340 --> 00:49:09.638 We've got 20 dead Iraqis taken off the battlefield. 707 00:49:09.673 --> 00:49:11.211 Taken why? 708 00:49:11.246 --> 00:49:12.773 The Army says they needed to ID the bodies 709 00:49:12.808 --> 00:49:14.742 but our witnesses say at least some of them were alive 710 00:49:14.777 --> 00:49:16.282 when they left the battlefield. 711 00:49:16.317 --> 00:49:18.581 And some of them were beaten and shot back at the camp 712 00:49:18.616 --> 00:49:20.253 after they were detained. 713 00:49:20.288 --> 00:49:23.091 More to the point, the Army say they were combatants 714 00:49:23.126 --> 00:49:24.587 and the families say they weren't. 715 00:49:24.622 --> 00:49:26.754 What are you looking for? - The trophy pictures. 716 00:49:26.789 --> 00:49:28.360 Over there. - 717 00:49:29.099 --> 00:49:31.726 Shift your arse, Patrick. You're sitting on Exhibit A. 718 00:49:31.761 --> 00:49:33.398 : Public Interest Lawyers. Hi, Carrie. 719 00:49:33.433 --> 00:49:35.136 Is that...? - Yeah. 720 00:49:35.171 --> 00:49:36.467 Show these to Patrick. 721 00:49:36.502 --> 00:49:38.007 I'll pass you over to him. 722 00:49:38.042 --> 00:49:39.767 Carrie? Hi, yes, I've got... 723 00:49:39.802 --> 00:49:42.209 So these are photos taken by soldiers on the day. 724 00:49:42.244 --> 00:49:44.343 You can see blood on the soldiers' hands in this one. 725 00:49:45.115 --> 00:49:47.181 Why do the Army need to take dead Iraqis for ID-ing 726 00:49:47.216 --> 00:49:48.776 if they had all these cameras in the field? 727 00:49:48.811 --> 00:49:51.647 Exactly! Carrie, I'm gonna pass you back to Deena. 728 00:49:51.682 --> 00:49:53.319 One second. - Oh. 729 00:49:54.157 --> 00:49:56.586 Hi, Carrie... - There were cameras everywhere. 730 00:49:56.621 --> 00:49:58.357 It doesn't make sense. 731 00:49:58.656 --> 00:49:59.996 Look at these. 732 00:50:01.165 --> 00:50:03.131 Look at the condition of these prisoners. It's shameful. 733 00:50:03.430 --> 00:50:05.100 I interviewed this guy in Istanbul. 734 00:50:05.135 --> 00:50:07.762 He's willing to testify. He's just a farmer. 735 00:50:07.797 --> 00:50:09.269 Almost all of them 736 00:50:09.304 --> 00:50:11.040 say they were denied water. - 737 00:50:11.075 --> 00:50:12.239 They've clearly been knocked about. 738 00:50:12.274 --> 00:50:13.834 It's a fucking disgrace, Patrick 739 00:50:13.869 --> 00:50:15.572 and it's our chance to expose it. 740 00:50:15.607 --> 00:50:17.376 Our duty to expose it. 741 00:50:17.411 --> 00:50:18.674 : Phil, that's another delivery. 742 00:50:18.709 --> 00:50:20.214 Well, can you deal with it? 743 00:50:20.249 --> 00:50:22.381 The Iraqi witnesses, what's your process there? 744 00:50:22.416 --> 00:50:24.515 Er, vetted by my man in Iraq. 745 00:50:24.550 --> 00:50:26.484 If he thinks they've got what it takes 746 00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:28.090 then I meet them 747 00:50:28.125 --> 00:50:30.158 on neutral ground in Istanbul. - 748 00:50:30.490 --> 00:50:31.621 The funding? 749 00:50:31.656 --> 00:50:33.326 : The High Court ordered the MOD 750 00:50:33.361 --> 00:50:35.757 to reimburse all our costs getting us this far. 751 00:50:35.792 --> 00:50:37.066 : Door's open, come on up. 752 00:50:37.101 --> 00:50:38.562 You know how many gallantry awards 753 00:50:38.597 --> 00:50:39.596 went to the soldiers at Danny Boy? 754 00:50:40.236 --> 00:50:41.268 Ten. 755 00:50:41.600 --> 00:50:42.830 And to a man, they'll be saying 756 00:50:42.865 --> 00:50:44.667 the Iraqi witnesses are liars. 757 00:50:44.702 --> 00:50:47.175 That the men they killed were soldiers, shot in battle. 758 00:50:47.210 --> 00:50:49.111 No one was mistreated. - : Course they will. 759 00:50:49.839 --> 00:50:51.872 But you and I know what British soldiers 760 00:50:51.907 --> 00:50:53.808 are capable of doing to detainees. 761 00:50:53.843 --> 00:50:56.184 Baha Mousa proved that. 762 00:50:56.219 --> 00:50:58.186 And this is just as grave and important as that. 763 00:50:59.387 --> 00:51:02.256 Only more sprawling. - That's an understatement. 764 00:51:03.787 --> 00:51:06.689 It's an uphill struggle, Patrick, I get that. 765 00:51:06.724 --> 00:51:08.229 It always is. 766 00:51:08.264 --> 00:51:10.660 There's 40 shipping containers of disclosure 767 00:51:10.695 --> 00:51:11.760 for us to wade through. 768 00:51:11.795 --> 00:51:14.103 : Signature, please. - Hm? Oh. 769 00:51:15.634 --> 00:51:18.404 This is the MOD sending us a haystack, saying 770 00:51:18.439 --> 00:51:20.340 "Good luck finding the needle." Thanks. 771 00:51:20.375 --> 00:51:21.836 Do you want this job or don't you? 772 00:51:21.871 --> 00:51:24.113 Cos, as you can probably see 773 00:51:24.148 --> 00:51:25.708 we've got a lot of work to get through. 774 00:51:27.184 --> 00:51:28.711 I'll start with a sandwich. - Hm? 775 00:51:30.451 --> 00:51:32.847 Well, they've got crusts on, Patrick. 776 00:51:32.882 --> 00:51:34.486 Do you think you can cope with that? 777 00:51:38.756 --> 00:51:41.394 You struggling, Dad? - Are you havin' a laugh? 778 00:51:41.627 --> 00:51:44.265 Think I cannae handle a couple of suitcases? 779 00:51:44.300 --> 00:51:46.366 I'll put you through some proper PT, boy. 780 00:51:46.401 --> 00:51:48.236 Now don't you be worrying, either of you. 781 00:51:48.271 --> 00:51:49.798 Not gonna worry. - Call us any time. 782 00:51:49.833 --> 00:51:51.173 Alright. - We're off. 783 00:51:51.208 --> 00:51:53.175 Good luck. - See you when I see you. 784 00:51:53.210 --> 00:51:54.671 I'll give you a bell when we get back. 785 00:51:54.706 --> 00:51:56.838 What's going on, little man? - : He loves that boy. 786 00:51:56.873 --> 00:51:58.444 Loves them both. 787 00:51:58.479 --> 00:51:59.874 Alright, hen? You heard what Margaret said. 788 00:52:01.350 --> 00:52:02.613 Get him back for me. 789 00:52:04.617 --> 00:52:06.188 Getting angry at what's happening to him... 790 00:52:07.488 --> 00:52:09.257 It's not the same as getting him through it. 791 00:52:18.499 --> 00:52:20.466 Are you trying to tell me how to father my son? 792 00:52:22.470 --> 00:52:25.405 You've done a very good job of fathering him, Gavin. 793 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:29.178 He's just like you. He's a soldier, like you. 794 00:52:29.213 --> 00:52:31.180 He keeps it all in-house, like you. 795 00:52:31.908 --> 00:52:33.611 He doesn't let on what's going on up here 796 00:52:33.646 --> 00:52:35.184 and he really thinks that's working. 797 00:52:36.781 --> 00:52:38.220 He's like you. 798 00:52:38.684 --> 00:52:39.947 He's just like you. 799 00:52:46.692 --> 00:52:48.758 : Point two, Charlie, eh? 800 00:52:50.234 --> 00:52:53.235 Point two. Oh! Is that the one you want to hear? 801 00:52:53.666 --> 00:52:54.995 OK. 802 00:52:55.030 --> 00:52:56.337 Point two. 803 00:52:56.372 --> 00:52:58.405 "That you've given... 804 00:52:59.276 --> 00:53:02.508 an untruthful and/or inaccurate account 805 00:53:03.478 --> 00:53:06.644 in suggesting that the Iraqis you apprehended 806 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:08.679 had with them any weapons at all. 807 00:53:09.550 --> 00:53:12.485 You're incorrect to suggest or imply 808 00:53:12.520 --> 00:53:17.259 that they had been shooting at... British troops." 809 00:53:17.294 --> 00:53:19.624 Three. 810 00:53:20.627 --> 00:53:23.430 "Any failure to report the misconduct or... 811 00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:28.765 or the allegations of misconduct of which you were aware 812 00:53:29.064 --> 00:53:31.405 is the direct result... 813 00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.968 ...by you, deliberately... 814 00:53:35.873 --> 00:53:37.906 to conceal the misconduct of others." 815 00:53:50.426 --> 00:53:51.854 What kind of soldiers are you? 816 00:53:52.824 --> 00:53:54.659 What's that? - Hm? 817 00:53:56.597 --> 00:53:57.827 What was what, sir? 818 00:54:00.029 --> 00:54:03.437 See you got a letter, then, Woody. That from the inquiry? 819 00:54:03.670 --> 00:54:05.670 Yeah. I did, sir. 820 00:54:06.673 --> 00:54:07.573 Me too. 821 00:54:09.346 --> 00:54:10.675 How's that sitting with you now, then? 822 00:54:12.877 --> 00:54:14.008 I love soldiering, sir. 823 00:54:15.649 --> 00:54:16.780 I do, but... 824 00:54:17.750 --> 00:54:18.947 right now, it's... 825 00:54:20.357 --> 00:54:22.324 Train you up, send you out to fight 826 00:54:22.359 --> 00:54:23.820 then you get back for questioning. 827 00:54:23.855 --> 00:54:26.020 I mean, what's that about? - Yeah, they were firing at us. 828 00:54:26.055 --> 00:54:27.956 Yeah, live rounds. 829 00:54:28.530 --> 00:54:31.762 And, no, I didn't... gouge anyone's eye out. 830 00:54:33.634 --> 00:54:34.831 You had all that, too? 831 00:54:35.801 --> 00:54:36.866 Yeah. 832 00:54:38.903 --> 00:54:40.309 Still think about them days? 833 00:54:41.345 --> 00:54:42.641 Danny Boy and the rest? 834 00:54:43.512 --> 00:54:44.907 Five years ago now. More. 835 00:54:48.682 --> 00:54:50.011 I do, sir. 836 00:54:50.948 --> 00:54:51.947 Yeah. 837 00:54:53.423 --> 00:54:54.389 Tough days. 838 00:54:56.085 --> 00:54:57.084 Punchy days. 839 00:54:59.594 --> 00:55:00.593 Yeah. 840 00:55:01.728 --> 00:55:03.024 Immense. 841 00:55:07.602 --> 00:55:09.470 Who do you talk to about them days? 842 00:55:11.870 --> 00:55:13.100 Prefer to just sort of... 843 00:55:14.774 --> 00:55:17.478 you know, keep it where it is, sir. 844 00:55:17.513 --> 00:55:18.611 For the time being. 845 00:55:18.646 --> 00:55:20.448 Got a shifting cargo, though, Woody. 846 00:55:20.813 --> 00:55:21.944 You sure that's a good idea? 847 00:55:24.179 --> 00:55:25.486 Ever thought about knocking on a door 848 00:55:25.521 --> 00:55:26.718 and getting some help with that? 849 00:55:27.820 --> 00:55:29.457 I'm fine, sir. 850 00:55:29.492 --> 00:55:30.821 You were just a kid then, Woody. 851 00:55:32.594 --> 00:55:33.560 But you're not now. 852 00:55:35.498 --> 00:55:36.629 Knock on a door. 853 00:55:39.535 --> 00:55:40.600 I did. 854 00:55:56.585 --> 00:55:58.684 OK. Stress test. 855 00:55:59.148 --> 00:56:00.917 Their claims against ours. 856 00:56:01.524 --> 00:56:02.688 Deena. 857 00:56:02.954 --> 00:56:04.954 The orders to take away the bodies. 858 00:56:04.989 --> 00:56:06.560 Everything flows from that. 859 00:56:06.958 --> 00:56:08.727 If they were dead, like the Army says 860 00:56:08.762 --> 00:56:11.598 removing them is unprecedented and needs a better explanation. 861 00:56:11.633 --> 00:56:13.864 If they were alive, like the families say... 862 00:56:14.933 --> 00:56:16.097 then they must've been executed. 863 00:56:16.539 --> 00:56:18.902 Hm. So who gave that order? 864 00:56:20.004 --> 00:56:21.509 No one seems to know. 865 00:56:23.172 --> 00:56:25.678 If the dead bodies needed ID-ing 866 00:56:25.944 --> 00:56:28.516 why didn't they photograph them there? Hm? 867 00:56:30.047 --> 00:56:31.684 Instead of transporting them. 868 00:56:32.522 --> 00:56:35.556 The trophy pictures show that there were cameras present. 869 00:56:38.154 --> 00:56:39.153 If you were an Iraqi mother 870 00:56:39.188 --> 00:56:40.891 searching through shredded bodies 871 00:56:40.926 --> 00:56:42.530 in a morgue two days later 872 00:56:42.565 --> 00:56:44.191 you would suspect something very bad. 873 00:56:45.095 --> 00:56:46.831 Lots of unanswered questions. 874 00:56:48.835 --> 00:56:49.867 Patrick. 875 00:56:50.936 --> 00:56:52.199 Bit of balance? 876 00:56:53.477 --> 00:56:54.575 Well, the inquiry will want to test 877 00:56:54.610 --> 00:56:56.038 the credibility of the witnesses. 878 00:56:56.073 --> 00:56:57.644 When did their injuries occur? 879 00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:58.843 How can anyone be sure 880 00:56:58.878 --> 00:57:00.075 they weren't members of a militia group? 881 00:57:00.110 --> 00:57:01.208 And the dead, too, for that matter-- 882 00:57:01.243 --> 00:57:02.682 The militia stuff... 883 00:57:03.951 --> 00:57:05.817 Neither side can prove that. That's our word against theirs. 884 00:57:05.852 --> 00:57:07.984 It's not "our" word, Phil, it's the witnesses'. 885 00:57:08.690 --> 00:57:11.526 We present their evidence to the inquiry, we don't own it. 886 00:57:12.254 --> 00:57:13.561 Very noble, Patrick. 887 00:57:15.829 --> 00:57:17.961 Why did the Military Police drop their investigation? 888 00:57:19.668 --> 00:57:21.096 Incompetence or cover-up? 889 00:57:21.131 --> 00:57:22.603 OK, what do we say to that one? 890 00:57:22.638 --> 00:57:24.770 We say incompetence or cover-up. Anything else? 891 00:57:24.805 --> 00:57:26.673 As I'm reading, I'm trying to put myself in the position 892 00:57:26.708 --> 00:57:28.708 of the Army soldiers. - Useful exercise. 893 00:57:28.743 --> 00:57:30.270 If you're fired up and you've been shot at 894 00:57:30.305 --> 00:57:32.074 and you're charging across a field 895 00:57:32.109 --> 00:57:33.548 and someone puts their hands up... 896 00:57:34.848 --> 00:57:36.716 where does the war bit stop 897 00:57:36.751 --> 00:57:38.883 and the arrest and restraint bit start? 898 00:57:38.918 --> 00:57:40.918 : That's the inquiry's focus in a nutshell. 899 00:57:40.953 --> 00:57:42.623 What happens after the war bit stops? 900 00:57:42.658 --> 00:57:45.021 It's grey... It's a grey area. 901 00:57:45.595 --> 00:57:46.253 OK. 902 00:57:47.223 --> 00:57:49.058 It is. So, you're fired up 903 00:57:49.962 --> 00:57:51.258 you've been shot at 904 00:57:51.634 --> 00:57:54.998 you've taken a guy with his hands up prisoner 905 00:57:55.704 --> 00:57:57.902 and you live that grey area, you're in it. 906 00:58:00.071 --> 00:58:02.236 Maybe you knock him about. Is that what you're saying? 907 00:58:02.271 --> 00:58:04.645 Why wouldn't you? - I guess. 908 00:58:05.010 --> 00:58:07.175 Hm. Well, here's your answer. 909 00:58:09.212 --> 00:58:11.080 Because they're British soldiers. 910 00:58:11.852 --> 00:58:12.884 They're trained 911 00:58:12.919 --> 00:58:14.985 to be better than that. - Right. 912 00:58:15.020 --> 00:58:17.053 I mean, either they are or they aren't. Right? 913 00:58:18.188 --> 00:58:20.628 Either they are better than that or they're not. 914 00:58:24.898 --> 00:58:26.227 Sorry. Have to take this. 915 00:58:27.263 --> 00:58:29.098 Hello? Yeah. 916 00:58:29.573 --> 00:58:30.968 And... 917 00:58:32.873 --> 00:58:34.642 Go on. - 918 00:58:34.677 --> 00:58:37.645 The arrangements we used to gather our witnesses 919 00:58:37.680 --> 00:58:39.306 the fact that we've operated through a middleman 920 00:58:39.341 --> 00:58:41.616 some of the financial arrangements... 921 00:58:41.651 --> 00:58:42.518 What? 922 00:58:45.380 --> 00:58:48.216 Well... is all of that definitely OK? 923 00:58:50.924 --> 00:58:52.990 We literally had no choice. 924 00:58:54.895 --> 00:58:59.161 Either we let the killings of 20 potentially innocent Iraqis 925 00:58:59.196 --> 00:59:02.604 go unchallenged, or we do what we did. 926 00:59:03.068 --> 00:59:04.298 What choice did we have? 927 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.543 If we win, it'll all be forgotten. 928 00:59:08.370 --> 00:59:10.172 If we lose, it'll all be irrelevant. 929 00:59:22.725 --> 00:59:24.593 : Can't abide the coffee they have here. 930 00:59:25.728 --> 00:59:27.695 But if I leave my good coffee in the kitchen 931 00:59:27.730 --> 00:59:28.795 everyone drinks it. 932 00:59:29.699 --> 00:59:31.325 I've had your statement typed up 933 00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.603 into the same basic form as the other soldiers. 934 00:59:34.638 --> 00:59:36.132 I want you to read it through now 935 00:59:36.167 --> 00:59:38.266 and say if it's an accurate reflection of what you told me. 936 00:59:41.073 --> 00:59:42.842 Let's have it out loud. 937 00:59:43.042 --> 00:59:44.613 There's a good chap. 938 00:59:44.648 --> 00:59:45.372 It's good practice. 939 00:59:45.946 --> 00:59:46.978 Yeah. 940 00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:02.224 "I deployed to Iraq on the 8th of April 2004 941 01:00:02.259 --> 01:00:04.699 in support of Operation TELIC 4. 942 01:00:06.703 --> 01:00:10.903 I deployed as a Lance Corporal with A Platoon, C Company 943 01:00:10.938 --> 01:00:13.367 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment. 944 01:00:16.713 --> 01:00:19.076 This was my first deployment to Iraq. 945 01:00:19.111 --> 01:00:21.342 My role was as dismount commander 946 01:00:21.916 --> 01:00:24.048 and I would rarely get out of the Warrior 947 01:00:24.083 --> 01:00:26.083 as we would be vulnerable to incoming fire. 948 01:00:26.118 --> 01:00:28.987 The plan was to go to the side of trench one 949 01:00:29.022 --> 01:00:30.659 and take the enemy by surprise. 950 01:00:30.694 --> 01:00:32.056 Three of us returned fire 951 01:00:32.091 --> 01:00:34.256 in an attempt to suppress the enemy position. 952 01:00:34.291 --> 01:00:35.829 When I reached the trench 953 01:00:35.864 --> 01:00:38.700 there were still four enemy combatants within it. 954 01:00:38.735 --> 01:00:41.098 One of them was shouting in Arabic. 955 01:00:43.135 --> 01:00:45.806 : He had his hands in the air and continued to shout. 956 01:00:45.841 --> 01:00:47.643 Get down! Get down! 957 01:00:47.909 --> 01:00:50.844 I shouted back at him something along the lines of... 958 01:00:51.176 --> 01:00:52.780 Get your fucking hands up! 959 01:00:52.815 --> 01:00:54.078 : "Put your fucking hands up." 960 01:00:54.751 --> 01:00:56.311 The detainees were grabbed by their clothes 961 01:00:56.346 --> 01:00:58.379 or arms and forced down. 962 01:00:58.414 --> 01:01:00.447 There was a large number of weapons. 963 01:01:00.482 --> 01:01:02.053 Once the search had been completed 964 01:01:02.088 --> 01:01:03.351 the detainees' hands were plasticuffed 965 01:01:03.386 --> 01:01:04.485 and they were blindfolded. 966 01:01:04.521 --> 01:01:07.058 CSM Falconer took charge of the situation 967 01:01:07.093 --> 01:01:08.455 and said that he and I were to advance 968 01:01:08.490 --> 01:01:09.689 to trench two to check it was clear. 969 01:01:09.725 --> 01:01:13.031 I saw an enemy combatant stand up and aim at CSM Falconer 970 01:01:13.066 --> 01:01:14.299 who reacted very quickly. 971 01:01:14.334 --> 01:01:17.167 Immediately after this, I saw another aimed at me. 972 01:01:17.202 --> 01:01:19.708 I fired two rounds at him and saw him drop to the ground. 973 01:01:19.743 --> 01:01:21.072 As we were walking back 974 01:01:21.107 --> 01:01:22.843 two enemy emerged with their hands up. 975 01:01:23.076 --> 01:01:25.780 We had not seen them or been aware of them at all. 976 01:01:25.815 --> 01:01:27.507 It was lucky for us that they chose to surrender 977 01:01:27.542 --> 01:01:28.750 rather than engage. 978 01:01:34.219 --> 01:01:36.692 The order to collect the dead was an unusual order. 979 01:01:37.761 --> 01:01:39.827 It would be normal to leave the dead on the battlefield. 980 01:01:42.260 --> 01:01:44.425 I had not been in such a situation previously 981 01:01:44.933 --> 01:01:47.098 and collecting the dead was a horrible job 982 01:01:47.133 --> 01:01:48.495 that no one wanted to do. 983 01:02:01.785 --> 01:02:03.114 I was not offered any counselling 984 01:02:03.149 --> 01:02:04.445 when I returned from my tour. 985 01:02:05.514 --> 01:02:07.217 I do not recall attending any debrief 986 01:02:07.252 --> 01:02:08.515 at the end of my tour either. 987 01:02:10.860 --> 01:02:13.289 I believe the facts in this witness statement are true." 988 01:02:18.197 --> 01:02:19.229 : OK. 989 01:02:23.334 --> 01:02:24.465 Well done. 990 01:02:36.281 --> 01:02:37.412 You alright? 991 01:02:44.058 --> 01:02:44.991 Hang on. 992 01:02:56.037 --> 01:02:57.333 Isn't he home? 993 01:02:57.368 --> 01:02:59.071 He's usually home by now. 994 01:02:59.106 --> 01:03:00.270 Uh, yeah, I don't know. 995 01:03:02.978 --> 01:03:04.142 You haven't knocked? 996 01:03:11.250 --> 01:03:12.216 You were right. 997 01:03:14.319 --> 01:03:15.582 You were right in what you said. 998 01:03:18.928 --> 01:03:19.993 OK. 999 01:03:21.898 --> 01:03:23.524 Do you wanna come in? - No, just... 1000 01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:25.592 Just get Brian out here for me, will you, love? 1001 01:03:51.653 --> 01:03:53.026 Brian. - Dad. 1002 01:04:07.009 --> 01:04:08.272 You know I love you, son. 1003 01:04:11.046 --> 01:04:12.474 Up to now, maybe. Is that what you're saying? 1004 01:04:12.509 --> 01:04:14.443 See, that's just exactly it. That's... 1005 01:04:15.149 --> 01:04:17.413 That's exactly it. That's where Lucy's got her head screwed on 1006 01:04:17.448 --> 01:04:19.987 and me and you havnae. That's... See, that's what it... 1007 01:04:20.022 --> 01:04:21.923 That's where she's exactly right. 1008 01:04:21.958 --> 01:04:23.287 Lucy? Dad... 1009 01:04:23.322 --> 01:04:25.190 Keep it all in-house, keep it in the headspace. 1010 01:04:25.225 --> 01:04:26.389 What's the fucking point, eh? 1011 01:04:33.068 --> 01:04:34.430 I can see what you're doing, Brian 1012 01:04:34.465 --> 01:04:35.871 and you took your cue from me. 1013 01:04:37.171 --> 01:04:39.039 And it's no good. It's no good at all. 1014 01:04:39.976 --> 01:04:41.910 I shouldnae have done it and you shouldnae be doing it. 1015 01:04:41.945 --> 01:04:43.978 All that, "I'm a tough guy" bollocks. 1016 01:04:44.013 --> 01:04:46.244 Cos that's what it is. Total bollocks. 1017 01:04:47.511 --> 01:04:49.544 There's naebody tough. None of us. 1018 01:04:49.579 --> 01:04:52.250 No' me. No' you. No' Arnie bloody... 1019 01:04:52.285 --> 01:04:53.383 Schwarzenegger. 1020 01:04:54.287 --> 01:04:55.451 Aye. 1021 01:05:03.065 --> 01:05:04.658 You remember how I told you about my pal 1022 01:05:04.693 --> 01:05:07.661 who got shot by the IRA? Shot and killed by the IRA? 1023 01:05:08.433 --> 01:05:09.663 Yeah. 1024 01:05:10.866 --> 01:05:12.633 And how I got promoted to Lance Corporal cos he was dead. 1025 01:05:14.010 --> 01:05:15.537 Right after the funeral. 1026 01:05:16.012 --> 01:05:17.440 They even give me his callsign. 1027 01:05:20.082 --> 01:05:22.346 I didn't... I didn't know that. - Aye, well, now you do. 1028 01:05:29.091 --> 01:05:31.025 I didnae even think about it. I was 20 years old. 1029 01:05:31.753 --> 01:05:33.522 But see, later, that gnawed at me. 1030 01:05:36.362 --> 01:05:37.592 It gnawed at me. 1031 01:05:38.496 --> 01:05:40.232 You know, his dying and me just stepping up 1032 01:05:40.267 --> 01:05:42.366 and saying to the major, "Aye, sure, gimme his stripes. 1033 01:05:42.401 --> 01:05:43.664 I'll take his callsign." 1034 01:05:45.107 --> 01:05:46.403 It's like I wiped him off the record. 1035 01:05:46.438 --> 01:05:48.174 No thought about anything else. 1036 01:05:48.209 --> 01:05:50.143 "Just gotta get these tapes sewed on." That was it. 1037 01:05:55.447 --> 01:05:56.952 But he found his way back in. 1038 01:05:59.649 --> 01:06:00.582 And rightly so. 1039 01:06:03.191 --> 01:06:05.521 There's never been a day from that moment to this 1040 01:06:05.556 --> 01:06:08.161 that I havnae thought about him, but did I tell anybody? 1041 01:06:09.329 --> 01:06:10.757 Dad-- - You know what it... 1042 01:06:12.200 --> 01:06:13.661 You know what it felt like? It felt like... 1043 01:06:16.600 --> 01:06:19.106 It felt like I had to live my life and his. 1044 01:06:20.043 --> 01:06:21.042 That's what it felt like. 1045 01:06:23.475 --> 01:06:26.014 That's what I meant when I said the dead have questions for you. 1046 01:06:28.678 --> 01:06:30.249 You see, when you join the Army 1047 01:06:30.284 --> 01:06:31.646 you're part of something massive. 1048 01:06:31.681 --> 01:06:33.252 You know, "We're all in this together." 1049 01:06:33.287 --> 01:06:35.386 But see, when it comes to the knocks you take, we're... 1050 01:06:35.586 --> 01:06:36.750 we're all a closed book. 1051 01:06:39.227 --> 01:06:40.391 OK. 1052 01:06:43.132 --> 01:06:44.791 I'm not a good example, Brian. 1053 01:06:45.530 --> 01:06:46.694 And that hurts me. 1054 01:06:48.368 --> 01:06:50.434 It hurts me to see you following that example. 1055 01:06:53.670 --> 01:06:56.209 OK. Come in now, Dad. Come on. 1056 01:06:56.244 --> 01:06:58.046 No, no, no. I've said what I came to say. 1057 01:07:07.816 --> 01:07:09.552 I couldn't be more proud of you, son! 1058 01:07:11.688 --> 01:07:13.193 I couldnae be more proud of you. 1059 01:07:15.890 --> 01:07:17.164 It's me I'm ashamed of. 1060 01:07:17.892 --> 01:07:19.529 For not saying it to you sooner. 1061 01:07:22.567 --> 01:07:25.535 I said to your mother, I said I couldnae even contemplate... 1062 01:07:25.570 --> 01:07:27.438 Aye, sure, I served 23 years 1063 01:07:27.473 --> 01:07:29.770 but I cannae even contemplate what my son went through. 1064 01:07:32.445 --> 01:07:33.741 I'm in awe of that. 1065 01:07:37.747 --> 01:07:39.219 I have no experience of that. 1066 01:07:43.753 --> 01:07:45.258 And that hurts, as a father. 1067 01:07:48.461 --> 01:07:50.428 I sent you places I've never been. 1068 01:07:58.801 --> 01:07:59.833 You were there, Dad. 1069 01:08:04.246 --> 01:08:05.278 You were there. 1070 01:08:20.328 --> 01:08:21.228 Oh, no! 1071 01:08:22.759 --> 01:08:24.462 - Babe. 1072 01:08:24.860 --> 01:08:25.859 What did you say to him? 1073 01:08:29.502 --> 01:08:31.469 I said he should tell you what was on his mind. 1074 01:08:33.671 --> 01:08:34.868 And did he? - Yeah. 1075 01:08:36.410 --> 01:08:38.212 Well, that's a good start then, isn't it? 1076 01:08:38.247 --> 01:08:39.114 Yeah. 1077 01:08:42.614 --> 01:08:43.679 Alright, Bailey boy. 1078 01:08:44.418 --> 01:08:46.781 You beat your mum. Can you beat your dad? 1079 01:08:48.554 --> 01:08:49.883 That was a good shot. 1080 01:08:49.918 --> 01:08:50.884 And again. 1081 01:08:51.491 --> 01:08:53.755 Oh-ho-ho. Oh! 1082 01:09:02.832 --> 01:09:04.832 Dad! 1083 01:09:08.409 --> 01:09:09.573 Bastard. 1084 01:09:24.018 --> 01:09:26.260 : A public inquiry opens today 1085 01:09:26.295 --> 01:09:27.921 into some of the most serious allegations 1086 01:09:27.956 --> 01:09:29.725 to have emerged from the Iraq war. 1087 01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.925 It'll examine claims that British troops 1088 01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:33.729 murdered up to 20 Iraqis 1089 01:09:33.764 --> 01:09:35.731 following a gun battle in 2004 1090 01:09:36.371 --> 01:09:38.404 and that nine detainees were mistreated. 1091 01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:39.768 : The inquiry is expected 1092 01:09:39.803 --> 01:09:40.967 to last for around a year. 1093 01:09:41.002 --> 01:09:42.804 Stop, please, sir. Thank you. 1094 01:09:42.839 --> 01:09:44.806 Just a few last-minute thoughts. 1095 01:09:45.413 --> 01:09:48.777 Oh. Even more last-minute than your 2am email? 1096 01:09:49.043 --> 01:09:51.681 The inquiry's terms of reference are as follows 1097 01:09:51.716 --> 01:09:55.652 and I quote: "To investigate and report on the allegations 1098 01:09:55.687 --> 01:09:59.293 made by the claimants against British soldiers. 1099 01:09:59.328 --> 01:10:01.724 It is also necessary to examine 1100 01:10:02.331 --> 01:10:04.925 the broad circumstances of the battle, the conduct 1101 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:07.730 and the actions of the soldiers and Iraqis involved 1102 01:10:07.765 --> 01:10:09.963 and the manner and cause of death. 1103 01:10:09.998 --> 01:10:12.768 : Why is this inquiry taking place? 1104 01:10:12.803 --> 01:10:15.903 This is a legitimate question for all participants to ask 1105 01:10:15.938 --> 01:10:17.410 in light of the public expense 1106 01:10:17.643 --> 01:10:19.610 and resources inevitably involved. 1107 01:10:20.976 --> 01:10:22.448 There is a clear answer 1108 01:10:22.483 --> 01:10:24.912 and that is because of the credible allegations 1109 01:10:24.947 --> 01:10:28.223 of unlawful killing by British soldiers of Iraqi civilians... 1110 01:10:28.489 --> 01:10:29.653 Tank chaser. 1111 01:10:31.624 --> 01:10:33.261 You care to repeat that? 1112 01:10:33.296 --> 01:10:34.856 Why do you hate us so much, Mr Shiner? 1113 01:10:36.893 --> 01:10:38.662 I've represented more soldiers 1114 01:10:38.697 --> 01:10:40.301 than any other lawyer in the country. 1115 01:10:40.336 --> 01:10:42.028 : Disaffected soldiers, maybe. 1116 01:10:42.063 --> 01:10:44.833 Is there any other kind, really? In the end? 1117 01:10:53.943 --> 01:10:55.910 : A boy at school says you're a murderer. 1118 01:10:56.814 --> 01:10:58.418 And that's what's upsetting you? 1119 01:10:58.651 --> 01:10:59.749 That is upsetting. 1120 01:11:01.423 --> 01:11:02.752 And what'd you say? 1121 01:11:02.952 --> 01:11:04.358 He didn't say it to me. 1122 01:11:05.394 --> 01:11:06.459 He just said it. 1123 01:11:06.494 --> 01:11:08.395 Well, he must've said it to somebody. 1124 01:11:16.031 --> 01:11:17.701 Come here, little man. 1125 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:21.837 Say you're not. 1126 01:11:23.071 --> 01:11:24.807 Not what? - Dad. 1127 01:11:25.909 --> 01:11:26.941 Bailey... 1128 01:11:28.813 --> 01:11:30.549 do I look like a murderer to you? 1129 01:11:33.587 --> 01:11:34.421 Hm? 1130 01:11:35.083 --> 01:11:36.555 Come on. Get to bed. 1131 01:11:40.462 --> 01:11:41.725 Right, goodnight. 1132 01:11:53.068 --> 01:11:55.541 Did you forget your kecks? 1133 01:11:55.576 --> 01:11:56.674 Is that a problem? 1134 01:12:02.748 --> 01:12:03.879 You OK? 1135 01:12:05.553 --> 01:12:06.552 Yeah, I'm OK. 1136 01:12:08.754 --> 01:12:10.017 Sure you don't want me to come? 1137 01:12:10.558 --> 01:12:11.392 Yeah. 1138 01:12:12.186 --> 01:12:13.658 Yeah, no, I'll be fine. 1139 01:12:14.859 --> 01:12:15.990 I'll be thinking about you. 1140 01:12:20.733 --> 01:12:23.503 Babe, I'm taking Bailey to school before I go to London. 1141 01:12:24.539 --> 01:12:25.604 OK. 1142 01:12:31.579 --> 01:12:32.809 Cheers. 1143 01:12:36.881 --> 01:12:38.782 Yo, let's get a move on. 1144 01:12:40.082 --> 01:12:42.984 Hey, you be good for your mum now, little man. Yeah? 1145 01:12:43.019 --> 01:12:45.492 And you be good for me too. 1146 01:12:45.527 --> 01:12:47.692 Yeah. I'll be as good as gold, babe. 1147 01:12:49.190 --> 01:12:50.464 Yo. 1148 01:12:52.831 --> 01:12:55.634 Love you. Have a good day. - Thanks. 1149 01:13:01.576 --> 01:13:02.674 So... 1150 01:13:03.777 --> 01:13:06.106 someone at school said that I was a murderer, yeah? 1151 01:13:09.012 --> 01:13:10.583 Do you think they'd say that to my face? 1152 01:13:11.619 --> 01:13:13.520 Huh? Why not? 1153 01:13:14.688 --> 01:13:16.116 Cos you're bigger than them. - Yeah? 1154 01:13:16.987 --> 01:13:19.757 And who's bigger? Them or you? 1155 01:13:20.661 --> 01:13:21.759 Them. 1156 01:13:21.794 --> 01:13:22.892 Yeah. 1157 01:13:24.962 --> 01:13:25.994 Don't come to school, Dad. 1158 01:13:28.768 --> 01:13:30.064 Hey. Come here. 1159 01:13:33.003 --> 01:13:34.101 Look... 1160 01:13:35.544 --> 01:13:36.840 for the record, Bailey... 1161 01:13:38.745 --> 01:13:39.909 I did kill people. 1162 01:13:40.945 --> 01:13:43.077 In Iraq... in a battle. 1163 01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:46.652 But I'm a soldier 1164 01:13:47.556 --> 01:13:49.490 and sometimes, that's what soldiers have to do. 1165 01:13:54.123 --> 01:13:55.188 What do you think about that? 1166 01:14:04.001 --> 01:14:05.099 OK. 1167 01:14:07.906 --> 01:14:12.139 There's a difference between that and being a murderer. 1168 01:14:13.307 --> 01:14:14.548 What is it? 1169 01:14:16.849 --> 01:14:19.047 That's what I'm going to London today to talk about. 1170 01:14:38.134 --> 01:14:39.474 Who's up today? 1171 01:14:40.103 --> 01:14:42.169 Brian Wood and... 1172 01:14:42.776 --> 01:14:43.841 Chris Broome. 1173 01:14:48.782 --> 01:14:50.045 What's that? 1174 01:14:58.924 --> 01:15:00.627 Who sent this? 1175 01:15:00.926 --> 01:15:03.960 The inquiry wanted an audit of evidence for disclosure 1176 01:15:03.995 --> 01:15:07.293 from all the different teams. This just turned up. 1177 01:15:07.328 --> 01:15:10.670 Turned up? From where? From our side? 1178 01:15:10.705 --> 01:15:12.298 Maybe it was at the bottom of a pile somewhere. 1179 01:15:15.578 --> 01:15:17.138 So the local warlord 1180 01:15:17.778 --> 01:15:20.680 lists all Iraqi dead and detainees as his soldiers. 1181 01:15:21.045 --> 01:15:22.176 Everyone there on the day. 1182 01:15:25.346 --> 01:15:26.554 Shit. 1183 01:15:29.889 --> 01:15:32.021 If they were soldiers, not farmers 1184 01:15:32.056 --> 01:15:33.924 the inquiry won't believe anything else we say. 1185 01:15:35.092 --> 01:15:36.564 Why didn't we know about this? 1186 01:15:37.864 --> 01:15:39.765 We should have known about this! 1187 01:15:42.396 --> 01:15:43.263 Phil! 1188 01:15:48.776 --> 01:15:50.171 For all we know, it's... 1189 01:15:50.844 --> 01:15:52.811 it's complete bullshit. It's... 1190 01:15:53.913 --> 01:15:58.179 propaganda put about by local Iraqi militia. 1191 01:15:59.655 --> 01:16:01.688 Turning them into martyrs. It's... 1192 01:16:01.723 --> 01:16:03.283 The judge will throw it out as irrelevant. 1193 01:16:03.318 --> 01:16:05.384 Will he? How can you know that? 1194 01:16:05.419 --> 01:16:08.024 Cos Patrick will point them in that direction. It's obvious. 1195 01:16:08.059 --> 01:16:10.862 You told me a case is only as strong as its weakest evidence. 1196 01:16:10.897 --> 01:16:12.732 This casts doubt on our witnesses! 1197 01:16:12.767 --> 01:16:14.360 I'll tell you what's not in doubt. 1198 01:16:14.395 --> 01:16:16.362 They're a bunch of lads with Kalashnikovs 1199 01:16:16.397 --> 01:16:18.870 that British troops threw 13,000 rounds at. 1200 01:16:19.136 --> 01:16:20.641 That's what they are. 1201 01:16:20.676 --> 01:16:23.369 Lads at breakfast, soldiers at teatime 1202 01:16:23.404 --> 01:16:25.844 lads again by bedtime, if they lasted that long. 1203 01:16:26.275 --> 01:16:27.681 I'll brief Patrick. 1204 01:16:57.273 --> 01:16:58.712 What did they say? - About the list? 1205 01:16:58.747 --> 01:16:59.438 What do you think? 1206 01:16:59.473 --> 01:17:01.110 They're taking it at face value? 1207 01:17:01.145 --> 01:17:03.178 Inquiry's already underwhelmed by some of our witnesses 1208 01:17:03.213 --> 01:17:05.719 and it's on headed paper, it's got a bloody rubber stamp. 1209 01:17:05.754 --> 01:17:08.216 It's probably just a boast, not a fucking employment record. 1210 01:17:08.251 --> 01:17:10.889 Our witnesses have most probably never even seen that list. 1211 01:17:10.924 --> 01:17:12.088 Yeah, shame we hadn't either. 1212 01:17:12.123 --> 01:17:13.958 It makes no difference. 1213 01:17:14.191 --> 01:17:16.928 It makes no difference at all to the human rights issues. 1214 01:17:16.963 --> 01:17:18.897 It makes no difference to what's important. 1215 01:17:18.932 --> 01:17:21.262 It's one piece of evidence amongst a mountain of stuff. 1216 01:17:21.297 --> 01:17:22.703 It's not one piece, though, is it? 1217 01:17:22.738 --> 01:17:24.331 It's part of a picture that's emerging. 1218 01:17:24.366 --> 01:17:26.333 A picture that's not the one you wanted to see. 1219 01:17:26.368 --> 01:17:29.171 It doesn't mean that terrible things didn't happen that day 1220 01:17:29.206 --> 01:17:31.140 or that everything our witnesses say is lies. 1221 01:17:31.175 --> 01:17:32.911 I know that, Phil. 1222 01:17:32.946 --> 01:17:35.111 But things like this, you start to look at best naive 1223 01:17:35.146 --> 01:17:36.343 and at worst mendacious. 1224 01:17:37.786 --> 01:17:38.983 It came out of nowhere! 1225 01:17:39.018 --> 01:17:41.051 It came out of somewhere you didn't look. 1226 01:18:46.855 --> 01:18:48.789 : Some evidence has just come to light. 1227 01:18:49.924 --> 01:18:52.485 An official list from the local Iraqi militia. 1228 01:18:53.422 --> 01:18:56.423 It clearly identifies all the dead and all the detainees 1229 01:18:57.525 --> 01:18:59.393 as members of their armed group. 1230 01:19:00.968 --> 01:19:03.265 It looks like they weren't just farmers, Brian. 1231 01:19:31.394 --> 01:19:33.064 You know what my vehicle commander said? 1232 01:19:34.595 --> 01:19:37.068 At Danny Boy, when it was over? 1233 01:19:39.842 --> 01:19:41.468 He said he didn't see the elders there. 1234 01:19:45.045 --> 01:19:46.341 Didn't see the ones in charge 1235 01:19:46.376 --> 01:19:48.442 who'd sent these kids out in flip-flops to fight us. 1236 01:19:52.052 --> 01:19:53.282 Then sent them halfway round the world 1237 01:19:53.317 --> 01:19:54.580 to fight us again in court. 1238 01:19:56.386 --> 01:19:58.122 Where are they when shit hits the fan? 1239 01:20:00.489 --> 01:20:01.829 Well, quite. 1240 01:20:01.864 --> 01:20:04.062 If these people wanna go and make war a crime 1241 01:20:04.097 --> 01:20:05.624 that's up to them 1242 01:20:05.659 --> 01:20:07.560 but I didn't do anything to be ashamed of in Al Amara. 1243 01:20:09.135 --> 01:20:10.431 I fought for my country. 1244 01:20:12.105 --> 01:20:13.401 And I'm proud of what I did. 1245 01:20:23.116 --> 01:20:24.819 But not doing anything to be ashamed of... 1246 01:20:27.186 --> 01:20:29.021 doesn't stop me from feeling ashamed. 1247 01:21:17.302 --> 01:21:19.335 - 1248 01:21:19.370 --> 01:21:21.139 Who's that? 1249 01:21:21.174 --> 01:21:22.371 : How does it feel to be accused of war crimes? 1250 01:21:22.406 --> 01:21:23.504 : Brian Wood. 1251 01:22:01.049 --> 01:22:04.545 leaves are falling... 1252 01:22:07.418 --> 01:22:08.648 Corporal Wood? 1253 01:22:53.266 --> 01:22:54.397 Who's going to be there? 1254 01:22:55.829 --> 01:22:57.202 Lawyers, mainly. 1255 01:22:57.237 --> 01:22:58.302 Um... 1256 01:22:59.107 --> 01:23:00.370 Some soldiers. 1257 01:23:00.768 --> 01:23:01.976 People from Iraq. 1258 01:23:03.111 --> 01:23:05.045 Because you killed people? 1259 01:23:05.278 --> 01:23:08.114 Well, not just me. There was a lot of people killed, mate. 1260 01:23:10.811 --> 01:23:13.680 And when you've talked about it, then what? 1261 01:23:14.749 --> 01:23:18.553 Well, when I've finished talking about it, then, er... 1262 01:23:22.493 --> 01:23:24.196 then I've finished with being a soldier.