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- Nobody could
have ever foreseen

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where we would be in 2020.

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- God, there
was just so much

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that was supposed to
happen this year, you know?

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We had a lot going on.

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We had a really cool
tour planned for Europe.

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- I think, in a
way, the pandemic happening

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really makes us appreciate
what we have more.

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Being able to get together
and make music together

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is a release.

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- It's bizarre how
weird this time has become.

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- Any solid plans we
had at the end of last year,

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you know, everything was
just kinda up in the air.

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Like, what are we
supposed to do?

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- You know, I think
what we all learned this year

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is how to adapt, how
to adjust ourselves

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to what's going on in the world.

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- There was a
lot of good groundwork

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that set us up to
be in this place

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to make this album, finally.

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♪ Three two one zero

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♪ There is no way
back this time ♪

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♪ What is real and what is not

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♪ Oh

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♪ Survival hurts

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- So much has changed

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since we made a full
new album as a band.

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I remember, at one point, we
had a little tour in Canada,

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and, at the end, nobody
really had anything going on,

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so I was like, "Hey,
let's stay a week,

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find an Airbnb in the woods,"

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and, oh man, did we.

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So good.

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And we were just really way up.

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I had to drive way out
into the middle of nowhere

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and just camped out in
the woods, set up a rig,

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and like, wrote music together.

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I am so grateful.

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It wasn't foresight, 'cause
nobody could have ever foreseen

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where we would be in 2020,

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but I'm really grateful
that we made time

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when we didn't have to,

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that we could be together
and just jam in a room

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and be creative and
get into that zone

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intermittently throughout 2019

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so that we had this
big pile, already,

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of material to work off
of when we got here,

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and we have had to spend
so much of this year apart.

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The last concert that we
went to go play

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was in Mexico City for Knotfest,

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and it was one of those
things, it was a one-off.

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It was like, the day
after Thanksgiving

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was the day we all had to fly.

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- It was a bad ending
to a great year.

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It was a heavy festival.

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There was a lot of
heavy bands playing,

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and the barricades
started failing.

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- It was just this really,

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like, almost out of a bad
movie kinda situation,

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and somewhat comical
and somewhat comical,

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and the seriousness of
it and the gravity of it.

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- The band that played
before us, Behemoth,

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I went up on their side
stage and was just watching

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because I thought that
their get up was fun.

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Like, their Halloween looking
costumes and their masks,

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just standing there watching it.

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I bolted back to
the dressing room

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and our security guard, Richie,

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he's just like, "Oh, they
got problems up there."

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Like, what are
you talking about?

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And it turns out that
the crowd got all rowdy

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during Behemoth's set.

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- The barricades weren't secure,

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and it was this crazy thing

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where we were
sitting back there,

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hoping that they would fix it,

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hoping it will be
able to be fixed.

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It just wasn't something
that could happen.

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And a safety call had to be
made about, okay, you know,

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the last two bands can't go on.

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Hey guys, Mexico City, we
are so, so disappointed

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that we didn't get our chance
to play for you tonight

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at Knotfest.

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The last couple bands
didn't get to play

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because of a safety issue.

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I've never really been
in that situation before

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where we really
were feeling like,

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Oh no, this is all going wrong,

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and it's kind of
out of our control.

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It was the saddest
thing, driving away,

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seeing our beautiful
set, all ready to go.

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The piano's in the middle
of the stage, like,

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I've never even seen that before

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with just, thousands
of people lined up,

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waiting to see us play,
and having to leave it.

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The only thing that could
have been worse is if,

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later in the night, they
burned our set to the ground,

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which they did.

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- A lot of people got on stage,

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and the first thing they
went for was the drum kit,

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and they just annihilated
Will's drum kit.

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- Like, we're
getting out of there,

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and I get back to the hotel,

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and, you know, my drum
tech's still down there,

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and he says, "You gotta
turn on the news."

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I turn on the news, and
there's my drum kit on fire.

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You know, being completely
burned to the ground,

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you know, like a bonfire.

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And I was like,
"Wow, man," you know?

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It was really weird, man,

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and it wasn't that
many of them, you know?

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It was less people
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that had really kinda
caused that destruction.

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I mean, people had
broken the barricade

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and there were thousands
of people running around,

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but the people that
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it was a small group
and it's unfortunate

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'cause it, you know,
made 'em all look bad.

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Looking back on it was kinda,

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"Man, that really just sort of,

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kinda summed up
2020 right there,

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watching my drum kit
burn up, you know?"

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And basically just
watched everything

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that was supposed to happen
in 2020 go up in smoke.

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- I think, when something
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you're in such a
hectic struggle,

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just trying to go
through that now,

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whatever life throws
at you in that moment,

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that it takes a
little bit of time,

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and I think, for me, personally,

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it was at the airport

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when we've been waiting
for our gate to open

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when everybody was
kinda like, in that mood

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halfway through being in
shock, but also giggling.

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I mean, that was not our fans.

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Our fans would
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so it was just a situation
that created this energy,

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and it was just,
unfortunately, us.

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- So, we came back, and it
was time to do the video

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for the chain.

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♪ And if you don't love me now

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♪ You will never love me again

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♪ I can still hear you

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I just went, "Hey,
that's it," you know?

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We're just gonna
pour this into that,

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make this, put it into
the video somehow.

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We had totally lit the
drum kit on fire for fun,

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and, you know, took
that back.

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I think there's always a way

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to take the situation
you're given

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and make something out of
it, go with it, use it.

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We've had to do that more,
and more, and more this year.

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That mentality had to
carry over into this year

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where then, we went
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We hadn't locked down yet. It
wasn't COVID in the US yet.

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And we were able to record
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and that went really great.

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We had such a wonderful
creative connection with Nick

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that we decided we really
did want to continue with him

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for the rest of the record.

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The fact that I've been able
to be here, with Nick here,

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and we've had the
ability to work

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amidst the craziness
of having to wait weeks

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before being
together, sometimes,

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because somebody's, you know,

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come in contact with somebody
and needs to quarantine.

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Even to be together in a way

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where we can be across
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but I never have had
to be in a situation

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where I either had
to get on a plane

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to continue this process.

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It didn't even need
to be that way for me.

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It was more to get the guys
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- We recorded a few
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and then I was
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and then things started to get
really weird all of a sudden,

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so we stopped.

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I think it was right
around the time we stopped

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it was kinda like, "Whoa,
this is getting serious."

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And then, you know, over the
course of the next few months,

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we just kinda kept in touch
and watch things develop

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and got to a point
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it would be safe if we kept
the studio really tight

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and cleaned it all the
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that we would be able
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- We had our first four songs.

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We had "Wasted on You",
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"Use My Voice", and "Yeah Right"

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recorded from our first batch,

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and even finishing it,
we weren't quite done

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when we really
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and then I got a sore throat.

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It wasn't COVID.

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We needed to still record some
background vocals and stuff,

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but Nick and I couldn't
get together, just in case.

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And I remember coming up here,

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and he brought the mic and
the preamp and the compressor

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into the parking lot,

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and laid it out, like,
on the ground for me,

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and was explaining
like, across the parking lot.

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He's like, "I set
this knob already.

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You do this and this and this.

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Plug this in here,"
and like, whatever.

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And then, you know, recorded
the end of that remotely,

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and mixing remotely
is no big deal,

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so it was just like this

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we're not gonna let
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even from then.

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- The cool thing about this band

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is that there's a
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to what we were doing,

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and I think that came
from a few places.

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It came from that
we really believed

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in the music that
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and it came from
really good management

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that just was determined to
not let this thing put us down.

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- We were just about to release,

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It was gonna be "Use My
Voice" for the first song,

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and we were about
to release that,

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and we were working on
the video idea for that,

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and we were about
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and then it was like,
none of that's happening.

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And suddenly, the
feeling of "Use My Voice"

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doesn't fit right now.

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What do we do?

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And it was really that
there was this choice

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whether we were gonna
either just wait it out

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and just hold on
and do it our way

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and not go with
the flow of things,

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or use it and go, "Hey, let's
look at what we have here."

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We picked another song

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that fit really, really
well for the moment

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with lines in it that
picked up a new meaning

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all of a sudden, where
we were all locked down,

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frozen in time and waiting
for a miracle.

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♪ Wasted on you

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♪ Waiting for a miracle

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♪ I can't move on

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♪ Feels like we're
frozen in time ♪

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♪ I'm wasted on you

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♪ Just pass me
the bitter truth ♪

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I have been really
fueled, in a way,

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by needing to think
about ideas in a new way

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and having to find a new
way out of the problem.

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My fans know that

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I'm a big fan of Legend
of Zelda.

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Well, a big part of why

250
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is because it's about
the problem solving.

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It's like, find your
way out of the room.

252
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A lot of this year
has been like that.

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Like, you have to
solve the puzzle,

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and when you do, the
satisfaction is so great

255
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because you really
had to work for it.

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On a different level
where emotions are high,

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you know, and anxiety is
real, and just all of it,

258
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it's been such a ray of light

259
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to have our music for
ourselves and for our fans.

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It's felt good to be
able to put it out there

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and just not be a piece
of bad news

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amongst so much bad news,

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but I think that, on
a real serious note,

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there's a lot of hope,

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and music, hopefully, you
know, shines that hope

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and that idea that when we
can be honest, truly honest,

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be broken, and not be afraid
to be that, connect in that,

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then we can start to
climb out together,

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and there is a way through this,

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and there is a light at
the end of the tunnel

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because we really aren't alone,

272
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even though, physically, we
have been so much in this year.

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- I talked
to Amy about it,

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Well, we all we all
did, on a Zoom call,

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and she was like, "Hey guys,

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we have to get this record done,

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and we have to get
together to do it."

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Okay, well, how are
we gonna do that

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and make sure it's safe?

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- And it was kinda like,
how do we, you know,

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Okay, how do we get everybody
from their own states,

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and Jen, who lives in Germany,

283
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how do we get everybody
back to Nashville?

284
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And, you know, there
were lots of ideas.

285
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One of those ideas
was to, you know,

286
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let's rent a tour bus and
park it in the parking lot,

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and we can just have the
band stay on the bus,

288
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and, that way, they can
just walk from the bus

289
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into the studio, and
nobody has to be here.

290
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- Amy's top priority
was making sure

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that everybody was
safe and taken care of.

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And so, she sent tour buses
to everybody, individually,

293
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to take us from our
homes to Nashville.

294
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- We all got tested.

295
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We tried to be as
careful as possible.

296
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It was a real bummer that
we couldn't get Jen here.

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She's stuck in Europe,

298
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and, you know, at the
time, there were no flights

299
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coming from over there,

300
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so she couldn't have got
here if she wanted to.

301
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- I love Amy and
I love the guys,

302
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and just being apart
from them for so long,

303
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especially because we left
Nashville in February,

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and everybody went like,

305
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"Okay, padi padi pa,
see you next time,"

306
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so nobody knew that
this was coming,

307
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and that this was
happening in 2020.

308
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And what was really the
toughest part of this year

309
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while working on this album

310
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was for me to know that they
are able to hang out together

311
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and I couldn't even make
it into the country.

312
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That was hard.

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♪ Stand in the
front but shut up ♪

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♪ 'Til I tell you to go

315
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♪ And don't get
caught up in pretend ♪

316
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♪ 'Cause you're not in control

317
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- Hey!

318
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- Hi. We're back!

319
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- So, where
are we right now?

320
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- We are at Rock Falcon.

321
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The epic, legendary Rock Falcon,

322
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coming out of our holes
for the first time

323
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in a very long time

324
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to get together and
finish this thing.

325
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- This is such a positive

326
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and blessed thing
to happen for us,

327
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to be able to come and do this.

328
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To be able to come in now and
do this and finish this record

329
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has given it an urgency

330
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that I don't think that we
would have had any other way.

331
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- We had to be apart
for a few months

332
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after the first four
songs were recorded,

333
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and then, it was like,
super, super locked down.

334
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Got the buses for the guys,
we got to get back together,

335
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and we were hungry for it.

336
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I'd just gotten to a point

337
00:14:55.295 --> 00:14:56.563
where I couldn't do it
alone anymore, you know?

338
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I'd gotten as far as I
could get to on my own.

339
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We just needed to be together.

340
00:15:00.867 --> 00:15:03.503
We got here, and
there was a new spark.

341
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There was a new
passion and energy

342
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and appreciation for the ability

343
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to be here in the first place.

344
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The guys were here, just
camped out for like,

345
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I think it was six weeks.

346
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And, you know, knowing that
we would have to go back apart

347
00:15:17.284 --> 00:15:20.187
and potentially not get back
together again for the album,

348
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we had to cram it all in,

349
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so it was like, we didn't
have all the songs written,

350
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so it started with a
writing session happening

351
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during the pre-production phase,

352
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which, especially with Nick,
always yields something,

353
00:15:33.133 --> 00:15:34.901
always yields something cool.

354
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I think the coolest one

355
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that came out of
that pre-pro moment

356
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was "Better Without You".

357
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We all love that song,

358
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and it's cool when you
can really see something

359
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take shape together, 'cause
that's often not the case.

360
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Like, I'll come
up with something

361
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or if something
comes from somewhere,

362
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and then, there you go.

363
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But having that time to
be in the creative zone,

364
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and jam in here, and
just play in the room,

365
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kinda like a show, but
focused in a creative way,

366
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and then to take it in
there and start going for it

367
00:16:01.661 --> 00:16:04.831
and laying tracks
down, oh, felt so good.

368
00:16:04.831 --> 00:16:07.734
Just a little piece
of something normal

369
00:16:07.734 --> 00:16:10.870
in a time where
nothing feels like

370
00:16:10.870 --> 00:16:14.941
it will ever be normal
again felt great.

371
00:16:14.941 --> 00:16:17.844
And, you know, it's weird,

372
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but it felt good to be reminded

373
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that we're good at something,

374
00:16:22.815 --> 00:16:24.284
'cause it's hard
not to just feel

375
00:16:24.284 --> 00:16:26.453
like everything's too
hard this year,

376
00:16:26.453 --> 00:16:28.288
and coming in here
and making music

377
00:16:28.288 --> 00:16:30.190
is somewhere where I am running,

378
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I am feet on the
ground, running,

379
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and it's like, "Oh yeah!
We're good at this!"

380
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Like, this is something
I know how to do,

381
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and I'm not failing at.

382
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♪ As empires fall to pieces

383
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♪ Our ashes twisting
in the air ♪

384
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♪ It makes me smile
to know that ♪

385
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♪ I'm better without you

386
00:17:03.690 --> 00:17:05.292
- The whole atmosphere

387
00:17:05.292 --> 00:17:06.826
of what's going on in
the world right now

388
00:17:06.826 --> 00:17:10.230
has really lent itself to
what this record sounds like.

389
00:17:10.230 --> 00:17:11.598
And this, in my mind,

390
00:17:11.598 --> 00:17:13.066
you know, and I don't
wanna speak out of turn,

391
00:17:13.066 --> 00:17:17.337
but in my mind, this
is a very aggressive

392
00:17:17.337 --> 00:17:19.639
and heavy record
for Evanescence,

393
00:17:19.639 --> 00:17:21.074
and when I say heavy,

394
00:17:21.074 --> 00:17:24.377
I mean musically, it's
probably the heaviest thing

395
00:17:24.377 --> 00:17:27.947
that we've ever done
through and through,

396
00:17:27.947 --> 00:17:30.350
but also, lyrically,

397
00:17:31.484 --> 00:17:34.654
it's the most pointed
and timely lyrics

398
00:17:34.654 --> 00:17:36.989
that I think Amy's ever
written, in my opinion.

399
00:17:36.989 --> 00:17:38.191
- I had a moment,

400
00:17:38.191 --> 00:17:41.794
when we were mixing "Use
My Voice", actually,

401
00:17:41.794 --> 00:17:45.398
I just felt this
weight in my heart.

402
00:17:45.398 --> 00:17:46.866
Like, this conviction.

403
00:17:46.866 --> 00:17:51.438
We had to do more than
just write a protest song.

404
00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.142
We needed to do something
that could actually, you know,

405
00:17:55.142 --> 00:17:58.878
potentially inspire
people and move people

406
00:17:58.878 --> 00:18:02.415
and help to shine
light on truth,

407
00:18:02.415 --> 00:18:07.420
because lies have
just flooded our world

408
00:18:08.955 --> 00:18:12.091
and our country lately.

409
00:18:13.326 --> 00:18:18.331
♪ Go and take everything
and throw it away ♪

410
00:18:19.866 --> 00:18:24.871
♪ But I will use my voice

411
00:18:28.107 --> 00:18:29.942
♪ Oh

412
00:18:33.446 --> 00:18:35.282
We got to get together
for the video.

413
00:18:36.649 --> 00:18:38.951
That in itself was something
to be so excited for,

414
00:18:40.019 --> 00:18:41.721
and it was different.

415
00:18:41.721 --> 00:18:44.424
We had a medic onsite
taking temperatures

416
00:18:44.424 --> 00:18:46.959
and making sure
everybody was apart.

417
00:18:46.959 --> 00:18:48.428
Everybody was wearing
masks all the time.

418
00:18:48.428 --> 00:18:53.400
Also, just feeling like
this really awesome support

419
00:18:54.567 --> 00:18:56.869
came out of people that
I did and didn't know.

420
00:18:56.869 --> 00:18:59.739
Eric and his crew? Incredible.

421
00:18:59.739 --> 00:19:02.609
I mean, anytime you're gonna
get together like that,

422
00:19:02.609 --> 00:19:05.278
especially in that moment
when we were doing it,

423
00:19:05.278 --> 00:19:08.047
you know, there's a little
bit of risk involved.

424
00:19:08.047 --> 00:19:10.850
I mean, you could just
choose to not do it,

425
00:19:10.850 --> 00:19:14.621
but there was a lot of passion
from the creative team,

426
00:19:14.621 --> 00:19:17.457
and even all the
extras that we found

427
00:19:17.457 --> 00:19:19.326
who were willing to
be a part of the video

428
00:19:19.326 --> 00:19:20.660
wanted to be a part of it.

429
00:19:20.660 --> 00:19:23.730
Really wanted to. Wanted
to help make it happen.

430
00:19:23.730 --> 00:19:26.098
We were all in it like
this big group of people

431
00:19:26.098 --> 00:19:30.102
wanting to make this together,

432
00:19:30.102 --> 00:19:31.404
wanting to make this statement,

433
00:19:31.404 --> 00:19:33.873
that we stand for each
other and for truth,

434
00:19:33.873 --> 00:19:35.208
and against the lies,

435
00:19:35.208 --> 00:19:37.043
and against the
suppression and oppression.

436
00:19:38.745 --> 00:19:40.947
♪ But don't you speak for me

437
00:19:40.947 --> 00:19:45.952
♪ Oh

438
00:19:46.853 --> 00:19:49.389
♪ No don't you speak for me

439
00:19:49.389 --> 00:19:52.992
We shot here in Nashville
for the majority of it

440
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with Tim, and Troy,
and Will, and I,

441
00:19:56.195 --> 00:19:57.530
and a lot of the extras,

442
00:19:57.530 --> 00:19:59.999
and then Jen's shots
were done in Germany

443
00:19:59.999 --> 00:20:03.102
with another director
who was with her,

444
00:20:03.102 --> 00:20:04.571
matching the shots,

445
00:20:04.571 --> 00:20:06.339
you know, sending each
other pictures of things.

446
00:20:06.339 --> 00:20:08.541
- It kind of looks as
if we're all together,

447
00:20:08.541 --> 00:20:09.742
but we were not.

448
00:20:09.742 --> 00:20:11.378
I mean, I was in
Cologne, in Germany,

449
00:20:11.378 --> 00:20:12.779
but it's fascinating

450
00:20:12.779 --> 00:20:15.615
what technology
can do these days.

451
00:20:15.615 --> 00:20:16.983
So, I'm like, "Whoa!"

452
00:20:16.983 --> 00:20:18.251
When I watched the
video I'm like,

453
00:20:18.251 --> 00:20:20.453
"I'm with Amy and the
guys! This is amazing!

454
00:20:20.453 --> 00:20:21.454
I'm so happy!"

455
00:20:22.622 --> 00:20:23.890
And it was interesting.

456
00:20:24.791 --> 00:20:26.693
We shot it on a day,

457
00:20:26.693 --> 00:20:29.396
I remember the weather
was really weird.

458
00:20:29.396 --> 00:20:31.931
Maybe the weather gods
were just on my side

459
00:20:31.931 --> 00:20:34.434
and they were like, "Yeah,
let's make it look exactly like

460
00:20:34.434 --> 00:20:36.803
Amy and the guys who recorded
it, and natural".

461
00:20:36.803 --> 00:20:38.471
I don't know.

462
00:20:38.471 --> 00:20:40.473
- It was just kind
of like this project

463
00:20:40.473 --> 00:20:44.744
where Eric really poured
himself into it big time.

464
00:20:44.744 --> 00:20:47.480
Eric knew the song
before it was finished,

465
00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.182
and has been along
for this journey.

466
00:20:50.182 --> 00:20:53.052
It's been really valuable to
me, more, and more, and more,

467
00:20:53.052 --> 00:20:58.024
to have other creatives,
friends, and artists in my life

468
00:20:58.658 --> 00:21:00.660
to just support.

469
00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:01.628
We support each other.

470
00:21:01.628 --> 00:21:02.595
We listen to each other's work,

471
00:21:02.595 --> 00:21:03.896
we read each other's stories,

472
00:21:03.896 --> 00:21:05.432
we talked to each other
and have conversations,

473
00:21:05.432 --> 00:21:08.368
and it only can inspire you

474
00:21:08.368 --> 00:21:12.038
and open your mind to different
perspectives, which is good.

475
00:21:12.038 --> 00:21:15.742
♪ We're gonna break
right through ♪

476
00:21:15.742 --> 00:21:16.776
♪ Like it or not

477
00:21:24.451 --> 00:21:28.455
♪ Whoa

478
00:21:28.455 --> 00:21:30.056
♪ If we can't talk about it

479
00:21:30.056 --> 00:21:32.325
♪ We'll just keep
drowning in it ♪

480
00:21:32.325 --> 00:21:33.826
♪ Give me credit or not

481
00:21:33.826 --> 00:21:37.430
♪ I give a lot give a lot

482
00:21:37.430 --> 00:21:41.267
♪ But don't you speak for me

483
00:21:43.403 --> 00:21:46.406
It's hard to know sometimes,
the best way to use your voice.

484
00:21:46.406 --> 00:21:48.808
It's not true that the online
world is the whole world.

485
00:21:48.808 --> 00:21:50.042
It's just not.

486
00:21:50.042 --> 00:21:53.813
We had to make, we have
to continue, you know,

487
00:21:53.813 --> 00:21:56.516
to say what's up, to
say where we stand

488
00:21:56.516 --> 00:22:01.488
on these hugely
important social issues,

489
00:22:03.155 --> 00:22:05.492
and we're already in such
a weak place as a world.

490
00:22:05.492 --> 00:22:07.594
Everybody's hurting,
people are sick,

491
00:22:07.594 --> 00:22:08.995
people have lost family members.

492
00:22:08.995 --> 00:22:11.163
That is all real,

493
00:22:11.163 --> 00:22:14.767
and to have a force that we're
supposed to be able to trust

494
00:22:14.767 --> 00:22:19.205
telling everybody that
it's fake, it just hurts.

495
00:22:19.205 --> 00:22:20.407
It really hurts.

496
00:22:20.407 --> 00:22:22.875
More people voted
than ever in history.

497
00:22:22.875 --> 00:22:25.978
I'm proud of that fact alone,

498
00:22:25.978 --> 00:22:27.980
and I do feel like we were
a teeny tiny part of it.

499
00:22:27.980 --> 00:22:30.417
So many people
were a part of it.

500
00:22:30.417 --> 00:22:31.884
I am proud of that.

501
00:22:31.884 --> 00:22:34.387
I'm proud that we
had that moment

502
00:22:34.387 --> 00:22:39.392
and chose to stand up,
and I know it's not over.

503
00:22:40.993 --> 00:22:42.529
- Music's that
bridge for people.

504
00:22:42.529 --> 00:22:45.898
We can create, we can write,
we can record this stuff,

505
00:22:45.898 --> 00:22:46.866
we can put it out.

506
00:22:49.001 --> 00:22:51.237
I mean, the goal is to
get the message out there

507
00:22:51.237 --> 00:22:52.939
and bring folks together.

508
00:22:52.939 --> 00:22:54.206
Definitely not to divide.

509
00:22:58.411 --> 00:23:00.246
- Are you guys sure it does
that climb in this song

510
00:23:00.246 --> 00:23:01.981
and it's not the other song?

511
00:23:01.981 --> 00:23:03.450
- It's this song.

512
00:23:03.450 --> 00:23:05.251
- It does that exact
climb into the bridge of,

513
00:23:09.422 --> 00:23:10.590
- I thought that's what it was.

514
00:23:10.590 --> 00:23:12.592
- Yeah, that's that other song.

515
00:23:12.592 --> 00:23:13.426
- What song is that?

516
00:23:13.426 --> 00:23:15.495
- That was * Whoa

517
00:23:15.495 --> 00:23:16.596
That's "The Little
Mermaid" part.

518
00:23:16.596 --> 00:23:17.430
- Oh, yeah!

519
00:23:17.430 --> 00:23:18.297
- Oh, yeah.

520
00:23:18.297 --> 00:23:20.433
Well, son of a bitch.

521
00:23:33.245 --> 00:23:38.250
♪ Do you remember

522
00:23:39.118 --> 00:23:44.123
♪ What made the scar

523
00:23:45.024 --> 00:23:49.962
♪ How deep will you cut

524
00:23:50.863 --> 00:23:55.868
♪ Seeking my heart

525
00:23:56.736 --> 00:24:01.741
♪ Seeking my heart

526
00:24:02.942 --> 00:24:07.680
♪ Well you know that
you can't hide ♪

527
00:24:08.848 --> 00:24:13.219
♪ And you know that
you can't lie ♪

528
00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:19.191
♪ 'Cause I know
all your secrets ♪

529
00:24:20.126 --> 00:24:23.863
♪ And I won't let you forget

530
00:24:31.203 --> 00:24:33.405
- I think it's
fresh as fuck sounding.

531
00:24:33.405 --> 00:24:35.908
I think it's definitely
the heaviest record

532
00:24:35.908 --> 00:24:37.744
that they've ever made.

533
00:24:37.744 --> 00:24:41.413
I mean, Amy really, I
was surprised at times

534
00:24:41.413 --> 00:24:43.550
at how heavy she wanted to go

535
00:24:43.550 --> 00:24:45.317
on some of these songs
and some of the parts,

536
00:24:45.317 --> 00:24:47.019
some of the elements
within the songs,

537
00:24:47.019 --> 00:24:48.521
but actually not that surprised

538
00:24:48.521 --> 00:24:50.823
because she's a total rocker
and she loves heavy shit,

539
00:24:50.823 --> 00:24:52.058
and it's awesome.

540
00:24:52.058 --> 00:24:54.561
She loves that energy
and that power,

541
00:24:54.561 --> 00:24:56.428
and that's one of the fun
things about working with her.

542
00:24:56.428 --> 00:24:58.464
She's not afraid
to try anything.

543
00:24:58.464 --> 00:25:00.933
Now, us together,
we'll direct a song

544
00:25:00.933 --> 00:25:03.202
through, you know
all over the course.

545
00:25:03.202 --> 00:25:04.236
It's like a map, you know?

546
00:25:04.236 --> 00:25:05.672
It starts out over here,

547
00:25:05.672 --> 00:25:07.139
and then it's like driving
across the country.

548
00:25:07.139 --> 00:25:08.107
Hey, let's go down to here,
and let's go up to here,

549
00:25:08.107 --> 00:25:09.609
and let's go over to here,

550
00:25:09.609 --> 00:25:12.478
and we finally end up on
the east coast, you know?

551
00:25:12.478 --> 00:25:14.246
- Nick is incredible.

552
00:25:15.147 --> 00:25:17.183
He is a partner.

553
00:25:17.183 --> 00:25:19.686
It's like he's absolutely
one of the band

554
00:25:19.686 --> 00:25:21.087
when we're working together,

555
00:25:21.087 --> 00:25:24.791
and we had that experience
last time in 2011,

556
00:25:24.791 --> 00:25:26.693
where we made our
self-titled album.

557
00:25:26.693 --> 00:25:30.262
It's self titled because
he put us in a place

558
00:25:30.262 --> 00:25:32.131
where it was like, oh, okay.

559
00:25:32.131 --> 00:25:34.300
We're a real band for
the first time.

560
00:25:34.300 --> 00:25:37.269
With all the experience
and perspective

561
00:25:37.269 --> 00:25:41.140
and everything that we've
gained, and he has, too,

562
00:25:41.140 --> 00:25:43.309
You know, he's the
mixer now, as well.

563
00:25:43.309 --> 00:25:48.314
Just letting it be a place
where we can go in there

564
00:25:49.148 --> 00:25:50.750
and do it together.

565
00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:52.418
Like, I feel like we really,

566
00:25:53.285 --> 00:25:55.087
oftentimes, but not always,

567
00:25:55.087 --> 00:25:57.423
have a vision for
the same end goal,

568
00:25:57.423 --> 00:25:59.626
not all the little
pieces along the way,

569
00:25:59.626 --> 00:26:01.928
and that's what makes
a good collaboration.

570
00:26:01.928 --> 00:26:04.530
But for like, that
basic end goal,

571
00:26:04.530 --> 00:26:06.966
I feel like we
really get each other

572
00:26:06.966 --> 00:26:11.838
in a way that's super, super
productive and beautiful.

573
00:26:21.313 --> 00:26:22.548
♪ After it all

574
00:26:22.548 --> 00:26:24.516
♪ Your ego your greed

575
00:26:24.516 --> 00:26:26.085
♪ You dug your grave

576
00:26:26.085 --> 00:26:31.090
♪ So come on inside

577
00:26:32.524 --> 00:26:34.426
♪ Rest in peace

578
00:26:34.426 --> 00:26:36.863
♪ Take cover

579
00:26:40.399 --> 00:26:44.203
- He carries that
incredible positive drive

580
00:26:44.203 --> 00:26:48.675
and that energy that I have
hardly seen in producers so far.

581
00:26:48.675 --> 00:26:51.310
Like, he is the
utmost coolest guy.

582
00:26:51.310 --> 00:26:53.813
I step back a little bit,
observed how he's working,

583
00:26:53.813 --> 00:26:56.716
and he's got this amazing talent

584
00:26:56.716 --> 00:26:59.952
of understanding
and feeling music,

585
00:26:59.952 --> 00:27:02.689
and he's such a great energy

586
00:27:02.689 --> 00:27:04.924
and you feel so
comfortable around him,

587
00:27:04.924 --> 00:27:07.159
recording and contributing

588
00:27:07.159 --> 00:27:09.261
because he makes you
feel so welcomed,

589
00:27:09.261 --> 00:27:11.230
like all your ideas
are so welcomed,

590
00:27:11.230 --> 00:27:12.999
and he's such an amazing person.

591
00:27:12.999 --> 00:27:17.169
- Nick is absolutely
my favorite rock producer.

592
00:27:17.169 --> 00:27:19.772
Like, hands down, the
dude is a mind reader.

593
00:27:19.772 --> 00:27:22.441
He gets it. He
understands the vibe.

594
00:27:22.441 --> 00:27:25.211
You show him something,
you show him an idea,

595
00:27:25.211 --> 00:27:26.645
he's already five steps ahead,

596
00:27:26.645 --> 00:27:28.247
he's already heard
the rest of the song

597
00:27:28.247 --> 00:27:30.582
that you're trying to write
before you've heard it.

598
00:27:30.582 --> 00:27:35.221
And he sits there and he
listens to what you're doing,

599
00:27:35.221 --> 00:27:37.489
and he computes it,
and he feels it,

600
00:27:37.489 --> 00:27:40.526
and he says, "Try this,
try that, try this."

601
00:27:40.526 --> 00:27:42.929
Most of the time, you try
that, and you try that,

602
00:27:42.929 --> 00:27:44.163
and you try this,
and you're like,

603
00:27:44.163 --> 00:27:45.664
"Holy shit, that's way better

604
00:27:45.664 --> 00:27:47.900
than what I thought
I was already doing."

605
00:27:47.900 --> 00:27:49.368
- Some producers,

606
00:27:49.368 --> 00:27:51.470
you bring something up
and they just blow you off

607
00:27:51.470 --> 00:27:53.539
because they have a specific way

608
00:27:53.539 --> 00:27:56.142
that they wanna do everything.

609
00:27:56.142 --> 00:27:58.945
Sometimes they want you to play
it through all their stuff.

610
00:27:58.945 --> 00:28:00.479
It's a bummer, you know?

611
00:28:00.479 --> 00:28:02.281
It's like, I've been working
on this tone my whole life,

612
00:28:02.281 --> 00:28:04.851
and you want me to
play through some amp

613
00:28:04.851 --> 00:28:06.318
I've never played through.

614
00:28:06.318 --> 00:28:10.823
Nick's always open to
ideas, ways of recording.

615
00:28:10.823 --> 00:28:15.227
It's more like having another
band member in the band.

616
00:28:15.227 --> 00:28:17.730
- Obviously, other
friends that work with him,

617
00:28:17.730 --> 00:28:19.598
and I'm real familiar
with what he had done

618
00:28:19.598 --> 00:28:21.801
with Alice In Chains in
"Black Gives Way to Blue",

619
00:28:21.801 --> 00:28:24.570
"Diamond eyes", and, you know,
obviously, The Foo Fighters,

620
00:28:24.570 --> 00:28:26.873
and then, you know, Rush,

621
00:28:26.873 --> 00:28:29.776
but I'd never met him, so
we came in and met the guy,

622
00:28:29.776 --> 00:28:32.378
and it was just like
this thing of like,

623
00:28:32.378 --> 00:28:34.280
you know, we're similar in age,

624
00:28:34.280 --> 00:28:38.184
and we really like a lot
of the same stuff, man.

625
00:28:38.184 --> 00:28:41.788
And just felt like
I was hanging out

626
00:28:41.788 --> 00:28:43.823
with one of my best buddies

627
00:28:43.823 --> 00:28:47.126
from high school and
beyond, you know?

628
00:28:47.126 --> 00:28:49.595
In my music scene,
you know, whatever.

629
00:28:49.595 --> 00:28:52.298
You know, mixed kind of guy.
You know, he likes to hang out.

630
00:28:52.298 --> 00:28:53.766
But he's also got a job to do,

631
00:28:53.766 --> 00:28:55.734
and he's really
good at doing that

632
00:28:55.734 --> 00:28:58.037
without it seeming like that's
what he's doing.

633
00:28:58.037 --> 00:29:00.139
- The band that she's
got backing her right now

634
00:29:00.139 --> 00:29:02.842
is truly a force to
be reckoned with.

635
00:29:02.842 --> 00:29:06.745
Those guys, and Jen
included. They're awesome.

636
00:29:06.745 --> 00:29:11.717
Will Hunt who is from
a different galaxy,

637
00:29:12.919 --> 00:29:15.654
made of a different
composition of DNA,

638
00:29:16.989 --> 00:29:21.660
was formed in the
millennia, many eons ago,

639
00:29:22.528 --> 00:29:23.729
and sits behind the drums

640
00:29:23.729 --> 00:29:25.965
and plays with that
nuclear energy.

641
00:29:25.965 --> 00:29:29.301
And Tim on the bass
is, I mean, he's great.

642
00:29:29.301 --> 00:29:30.636
They're all great!
They're all great.

643
00:29:30.636 --> 00:29:32.071
Troy's great, Jen's great.

644
00:29:32.071 --> 00:29:36.742
Her band is just completely
on point all the time,

645
00:29:36.742 --> 00:29:39.245
and they're great people,
they're great players,

646
00:29:39.245 --> 00:29:40.712
and they come together

647
00:29:40.712 --> 00:29:44.316
and they create this giant
sound of Evanescence.

648
00:29:44.316 --> 00:29:46.185
There's a lot of
power behind it.

649
00:29:46.185 --> 00:29:48.587
- A really important
element to a functional band

650
00:29:48.587 --> 00:29:53.259
is everyone
respecting each other.

651
00:29:53.259 --> 00:29:54.961
Like, personally
and professionally,

652
00:29:54.961 --> 00:29:57.663
really believing in each other.

653
00:29:57.663 --> 00:29:59.098
One of the reasons for that

654
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:05.004
is you need to let somebody
go down a road for a minute

655
00:30:05.004 --> 00:30:06.839
before shooting it down.

656
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:08.908
Also, be comfortable
with each other

657
00:30:08.908 --> 00:30:10.609
as brothers and
sisters, you know,

658
00:30:10.609 --> 00:30:11.743
to where we can go
down a road and go,

659
00:30:11.743 --> 00:30:12.979
"Okay, cool. Let's not do that.

660
00:30:12.979 --> 00:30:13.913
Let's do something
else," you know?

661
00:30:13.913 --> 00:30:15.714
And not feel threatened by that.

662
00:30:15.714 --> 00:30:19.818
We have been a unit, this
core, the five of us,

663
00:30:19.818 --> 00:30:22.054
for about five years
since we've had Jen,

664
00:30:22.054 --> 00:30:24.390
but with the exception of Jen,

665
00:30:24.390 --> 00:30:26.225
the rest of the guys
that I have been together

666
00:30:26.225 --> 00:30:27.559
for over a decade,

667
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.298
and really developed
some major bond

668
00:30:33.432 --> 00:30:35.001
from the experiences
that we've had,

669
00:30:35.001 --> 00:30:37.669
and from just, like,
having a deep understanding

670
00:30:37.669 --> 00:30:42.674
with each other, and I
really create the best

671
00:30:43.842 --> 00:30:45.544
the only way that I
really, truly can.

672
00:30:45.544 --> 00:30:49.048
Like, open myself up all the
way as to trust somebody,

673
00:30:50.149 --> 00:30:51.717
and I trust them,

674
00:30:51.717 --> 00:30:54.753
and I know what it's like
for it to not be that way,

675
00:30:55.988 --> 00:30:57.389
and I just wouldn't
wanna be doing this

676
00:30:57.389 --> 00:30:58.857
if it wasn't that way.

677
00:30:58.857 --> 00:31:00.326
Each of them brings something
different to the table,

678
00:31:00.326 --> 00:31:02.962
and each of us has a
slightly different style.

679
00:31:04.130 --> 00:31:05.731
We don't all have the
same exact vision.

680
00:31:05.731 --> 00:31:08.434
We don't all want all the
same things for music,

681
00:31:08.434 --> 00:31:11.170
but that's why it can
be so multilayered.

682
00:31:11.170 --> 00:31:13.505
I think that brings something
good, the push and pull.

683
00:31:13.505 --> 00:31:14.941
Same thing with
working with Nick.

684
00:31:14.941 --> 00:31:16.408
Like, a little bit
of that push and pull

685
00:31:16.408 --> 00:31:17.609
is what makes it great.

686
00:31:18.610 --> 00:31:21.280
So, I don't know.

687
00:31:22.448 --> 00:31:25.417
It's sort of like, just
this particular recipe

688
00:31:25.417 --> 00:31:29.188
that makes up this
time for us as a band,

689
00:31:29.188 --> 00:31:31.057
and I'm really grateful for it.

690
00:31:31.057 --> 00:31:32.959
- A few of the elements
that I really love

691
00:31:32.959 --> 00:31:36.062
about recording with
Evanescence, and Amy
in particular is,

692
00:31:36.062 --> 00:31:39.865
you know, all of the recording
involved in the process,

693
00:31:39.865 --> 00:31:43.035
which is, she's down to
get a string section,

694
00:31:43.035 --> 00:31:44.470
and get a choir,

695
00:31:44.470 --> 00:31:47.206
and we'll have two or three
different programmers,

696
00:31:47.206 --> 00:31:50.042
and everybody's just throwing
information, and tracks,

697
00:31:50.042 --> 00:31:51.610
and ideas and creativity,

698
00:31:51.610 --> 00:31:55.181
and it's just this thing,
it's hard to describe,

699
00:31:55.181 --> 00:31:57.083
and when we're in
the thick of that,

700
00:31:57.083 --> 00:31:59.418
it's really, really fun,
and really exciting.

701
00:31:59.418 --> 00:32:02.955
When you work with a band
or an artist, whoever,

702
00:32:02.955 --> 00:32:04.423
you partner up with all of 'em

703
00:32:04.423 --> 00:32:06.525
at, kinda, different
times during the process,

704
00:32:06.525 --> 00:32:08.160
and, you know, it's a lot of fun

705
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.196
when me and her really get
to dig into all this stuff,

706
00:32:10.196 --> 00:32:13.265
'cause she's super creative,
and a great piano player.

707
00:32:13.265 --> 00:32:18.270
And she's just really flowing
with creativity and ideas,

708
00:32:19.438 --> 00:32:20.372
and she understands
the process, you know?

709
00:32:20.372 --> 00:32:21.907
She knows things take a while.

710
00:32:21.907 --> 00:32:24.310
You can do things a lot
easier these days, obviously,

711
00:32:24.310 --> 00:32:26.912
with programming and
synthesized keyboards

712
00:32:26.912 --> 00:32:28.414
and all that stuff,
and, you know,

713
00:32:28.414 --> 00:32:30.449
there's instances where
I'm like, "Hey," you know?

714
00:32:30.449 --> 00:32:31.717
"Let's do a little
string thing in here!

715
00:32:31.717 --> 00:32:33.319
Let's just grab the
keyboard real quick!"

716
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.687
And she looks at me
like, are you crazy?

717
00:32:36.555 --> 00:32:38.524
She's like, "No.

718
00:32:38.524 --> 00:32:41.027
We're gonna record
strings in a studio,"

719
00:32:41.027 --> 00:32:44.830
and I'm just like,
"Okay. Let's go!"

720
00:33:03.649 --> 00:33:07.519
- * We can't be trusted

721
00:33:08.820 --> 00:33:13.725
♪ Oh

722
00:33:14.626 --> 00:33:18.830
♪ The future starts with us

723
00:33:19.665 --> 00:33:21.567
♪ Blind belief

724
00:33:21.567 --> 00:33:25.104
♪ Are you afraid to see

725
00:33:25.104 --> 00:33:30.109
♪ That our fathers were wrong

726
00:33:31.277 --> 00:33:35.281
♪ We hold the key
to redemption ♪

727
00:33:38.016 --> 00:33:40.819
♪ Let icons fall

728
00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:44.756
At first, I really had held
out on strings this time,

729
00:33:44.756 --> 00:33:48.127
because part of the
vision for this album

730
00:33:48.127 --> 00:33:51.363
was to make it really
raw, and it's not.

731
00:33:51.363 --> 00:33:53.065
It's Evanescence, come on!

732
00:33:53.065 --> 00:33:54.466
There's a million layers,

733
00:33:54.466 --> 00:33:58.370
but coming off of
"Synthesis" in particular,

734
00:33:58.370 --> 00:34:00.306
combined with the
themes of the music,

735
00:34:00.306 --> 00:34:04.376
which are very exposed,
just opening up,

736
00:34:06.178 --> 00:34:07.679
just felt like the right thing,

737
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:11.817
to have it not have
that beautiful element.

738
00:34:11.817 --> 00:34:16.555
But, you know, as the album
has been such a journey,

739
00:34:16.555 --> 00:34:17.956
it took us to that place

740
00:34:17.956 --> 00:34:19.858
where if it needs
something, we could do it,

741
00:34:19.858 --> 00:34:23.195
and we could do it,
and it was possible.

742
00:34:23.195 --> 00:34:24.530
David Campbell,

743
00:34:24.530 --> 00:34:26.265
I mean, he's just
a part of this.

744
00:34:26.265 --> 00:34:29.000
He's been a part of this
since our very first album,

745
00:34:30.369 --> 00:34:32.904
and that's why "Synthesis"
was so gratifying,

746
00:34:32.904 --> 00:34:34.606
because we were able
to re-experience it

747
00:34:34.606 --> 00:34:36.475
and re-dig into it together,

748
00:34:36.475 --> 00:34:40.446
and have our thing together
that we always collaborate on

749
00:34:40.446 --> 00:34:41.747
be the forefront.

750
00:34:41.747 --> 00:34:46.752
♪ Open your eyes to the light

751
00:34:47.986 --> 00:34:52.491
♪ I denied it for so long

752
00:34:52.491 --> 00:34:55.627
♪ Oh so long

753
00:34:55.627 --> 00:35:00.632
♪ Say goodbye

754
00:35:01.267 --> 00:35:02.934
♪ Goodbye

755
00:35:26.925 --> 00:35:28.727
In this, to come back again
and have it be with him,

756
00:35:28.727 --> 00:35:30.996
it made it all feel real.

757
00:35:30.996 --> 00:35:33.499
It's like, okay, now we've
done an Evanescence album.

758
00:35:33.499 --> 00:35:35.201
We've got some strings going on,

759
00:35:35.201 --> 00:35:37.203
and they sound beautiful.

760
00:35:37.203 --> 00:35:41.607
David doesn't just put
strings on something.

761
00:35:41.607 --> 00:35:45.844
He takes in the song and
interprets it in his mind,

762
00:35:45.844 --> 00:35:49.715
and like, puts it
back out in a new way,

763
00:35:49.715 --> 00:35:54.720
and having that layer of
just, like, vision and light

764
00:35:56.522 --> 00:35:58.857
is so precious.

765
00:35:58.857 --> 00:36:00.125
I love it so much.

766
00:36:00.125 --> 00:36:04.930
I really am inspired by
David Campbell, always,

767
00:36:06.097 --> 00:36:08.700
and I just look up to
him in such a major way.

768
00:36:08.700 --> 00:36:10.236
He was able to do
it through Zoom,

769
00:36:10.236 --> 00:36:12.137
and actually, Nick was
quarantining at the time,

770
00:36:12.137 --> 00:36:13.639
so he was doing it
through Zoom, too,

771
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.942
and it was just me and the
engineers in the studio,

772
00:36:16.942 --> 00:36:19.110
which was cool, too.

773
00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:21.313
It was beautiful
to watch it happen

774
00:36:21.313 --> 00:36:25.817
and to feel like, "Hey, you
know, we are still all here.

775
00:36:25.817 --> 00:36:27.085
We're doing this together,

776
00:36:27.085 --> 00:36:29.788
even though we can't
really be together."

777
00:36:29.788 --> 00:36:31.723
That makes me feel
really good to know.

778
00:36:44.236 --> 00:36:45.304
♪ Had enough

779
00:36:45.304 --> 00:36:49.107
♪ I've really had enough

780
00:36:49.107 --> 00:36:54.112
♪ Had enough of denial

781
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:55.847
♪ I'm not alright

782
00:36:55.847 --> 00:36:57.683
♪ But I'm not gonna lie

783
00:36:57.683 --> 00:37:02.688
♪ I don't know that I ever was

784
00:37:03.922 --> 00:37:06.525
♪ All alone I've waited

785
00:37:06.525 --> 00:37:08.026
♪ All alone

786
00:37:08.026 --> 00:37:09.160
- Fingers crossed.

787
00:37:09.160 --> 00:37:10.095
We can't control
anything as far as like,

788
00:37:10.095 --> 00:37:11.497
when we can really go back out

789
00:37:11.497 --> 00:37:14.733
and it's safe, for the audience
in particular, you know,

790
00:37:14.733 --> 00:37:15.801
to have concerts again.

791
00:37:15.801 --> 00:37:17.936
I feel like we're gonna be able

792
00:37:17.936 --> 00:37:22.708
to still find ways
to give and receive.

793
00:37:22.708 --> 00:37:25.210
Like, we're still
going to find a way

794
00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:27.379
to keep going in a new way.

795
00:37:27.379 --> 00:37:29.047
Doing the live stream
was really cool,

796
00:37:29.047 --> 00:37:30.982
because it was sort of a hybrid

797
00:37:30.982 --> 00:37:34.886
of a show, like, a performance,

798
00:37:34.886 --> 00:37:36.488
and the studio experience,

799
00:37:36.488 --> 00:37:39.591
'cause we're here in the place
where we've made the music,

800
00:37:39.591 --> 00:37:41.593
and were isolated in ways

801
00:37:41.593 --> 00:37:43.629
that we can make it sound
really good, you know?

802
00:37:43.629 --> 00:37:47.165
Like, where everybody's in
separate places and everything.

803
00:37:48.266 --> 00:37:52.404
♪ Change me

804
00:37:52.404 --> 00:37:57.409
♪ Into something I believe in

805
00:37:58.209 --> 00:38:01.647
♪ Change me

806
00:38:01.647 --> 00:38:06.652
♪ So I don't have to pretend

807
00:38:08.754 --> 00:38:10.021
♪ Take a breath and try

808
00:38:10.021 --> 00:38:11.957
- You know, when
I went to that studio

809
00:38:11.957 --> 00:38:13.191
where I recorded my solo album

810
00:38:13.191 --> 00:38:15.461
to record the live
stream audio and video,

811
00:38:15.461 --> 00:38:16.762
it was just like,

812
00:38:16.762 --> 00:38:18.930
You know, I had my
eyes closed a lot.

813
00:38:18.930 --> 00:38:21.633
When I closed my eyes and I
played and sang these songs,

814
00:38:21.633 --> 00:38:23.134
I was just like,

815
00:38:23.134 --> 00:38:25.771
putting myself emotionally
back to that moment of like,

816
00:38:25.771 --> 00:38:28.306
being together with
the band and playing,

817
00:38:28.306 --> 00:38:31.410
and it was just,
it felt so good.

818
00:38:33.512 --> 00:38:37.082
- * From your mouth
flow a thousand truths ♪

819
00:38:37.082 --> 00:38:41.353
♪ But you know

820
00:38:41.353 --> 00:38:44.255
♪ There's only one

821
00:38:48.394 --> 00:38:50.962
The feeling, in real time,

822
00:38:50.962 --> 00:38:53.198
you know, to play
those songs together,

823
00:38:53.198 --> 00:38:54.332
felt so good.

824
00:38:54.332 --> 00:38:55.901
The new songs in particular,

825
00:38:55.901 --> 00:38:57.536
because that is the thing

826
00:38:57.536 --> 00:38:59.771
that we would have
been doing right now

827
00:38:59.771 --> 00:39:01.306
that we haven't been able to do.

828
00:39:01.306 --> 00:39:03.875
So, to get to just jam
them and enjoy them

829
00:39:03.875 --> 00:39:06.778
without thinking about
writing or correcting,

830
00:39:06.778 --> 00:39:10.482
just playing them,
just mastering the
performance of a song

831
00:39:10.482 --> 00:39:11.817
feels really good.

832
00:39:11.817 --> 00:39:15.286
I was really grateful
for that moment

833
00:39:15.286 --> 00:39:18.189
and the fact that we were
able to make that happen.

834
00:39:33.171 --> 00:39:36.675
- It feels a little
like, all encompassing.

835
00:39:36.675 --> 00:39:39.277
We all come from different
places, you know?

836
00:39:39.277 --> 00:39:43.715
This band has come together
from all parts of the world,

837
00:39:43.715 --> 00:39:45.917
all parts of the country.

838
00:39:45.917 --> 00:39:48.186
We all had different
upbringings,

839
00:39:49.387 --> 00:39:52.624
our ages are pretty, you
know, there's a wide gap

840
00:39:54.092 --> 00:39:57.429
between the oldest arson,
the youngest person,

841
00:39:57.429 --> 00:40:00.666
so I feel like
this is like a soup

842
00:40:00.666 --> 00:40:03.268
like we've never done before.

843
00:40:03.268 --> 00:40:05.904
- This experience, when
I first joined this band,

844
00:40:05.904 --> 00:40:08.940
how I saw how the fan base was,

845
00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:11.477
how I was embraced
by the fan base, too.

846
00:40:11.477 --> 00:40:16.247
Like, I remember saying to Amy

847
00:40:16.247 --> 00:40:18.817
shortly after we first started
playing shows together,

848
00:40:18.817 --> 00:40:19.985
I remember saying to her, like,

849
00:40:19.985 --> 00:40:22.120
"Holy shit, these
people are passionate!"

850
00:40:22.120 --> 00:40:23.822
And she's just like,
"Oh yeah, dude.

851
00:40:23.822 --> 00:40:25.757
Oh yeah. You have no idea."

852
00:40:25.757 --> 00:40:29.561
As the years go by, I can't
imagine it any other way.

853
00:40:29.561 --> 00:40:31.663
- They are loyal.

854
00:40:31.663 --> 00:40:34.232
Admittedly, we take
a little longer

855
00:40:34.232 --> 00:40:36.668
to put out our
records, you know?

856
00:40:36.668 --> 00:40:38.937
We take a lot of
time to write songs,

857
00:40:38.937 --> 00:40:42.608
and I don't think that we
could ever release enough music

858
00:40:42.608 --> 00:40:46.277
fast enough for 'em,
which is great, you know?

859
00:40:46.277 --> 00:40:49.014
We're lucky to have
people that are hungry

860
00:40:49.014 --> 00:40:51.382
to hear more from
us all the time.

861
00:40:51.382 --> 00:40:52.684
They're all over the place.

862
00:40:52.684 --> 00:40:54.953
We're lucky that we get to tour

863
00:40:56.254 --> 00:40:58.724
almost everywhere in the world.

864
00:40:58.724 --> 00:40:59.991
- A band like Evanescence,

865
00:40:59.991 --> 00:41:01.660
you can think about
it as such an anomaly

866
00:41:01.660 --> 00:41:04.563
because this is a band
that released a record

867
00:41:04.563 --> 00:41:06.632
and then put out
their second record,

868
00:41:06.632 --> 00:41:08.667
maybe two and a half,
three years later,

869
00:41:08.667 --> 00:41:10.802
so that's kind of
a long stretch,

870
00:41:10.802 --> 00:41:13.639
and then did not put out
another record for six years

871
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.641
almost five, almost six years,

872
00:41:15.641 --> 00:41:18.209
and that record
debuted at number one

873
00:41:18.209 --> 00:41:19.410
on the Billboard charts.

874
00:41:19.410 --> 00:41:21.012
Billboard Top 200 Album Chart.

875
00:41:21.012 --> 00:41:23.949
Not the rock chart, but
the Top 200 Album Chart.

876
00:41:23.949 --> 00:41:26.585
I don't know if there's
another band out there,

877
00:41:26.585 --> 00:41:28.654
I mean, and I'm sure there
is, but I can't think of it,

878
00:41:28.654 --> 00:41:30.388
that's done that.

879
00:41:30.388 --> 00:41:32.323
That's gone away and
taking these breaks,

880
00:41:32.323 --> 00:41:34.626
and it's a testament
to who these fans are.

881
00:41:34.626 --> 00:41:37.495
And again, we took a long break

882
00:41:37.495 --> 00:41:39.598
before we came back
and played any shows

883
00:41:39.598 --> 00:41:41.900
with no new material, and
the fans were still there.

884
00:41:41.900 --> 00:41:44.536
We threw a massive curve ball

885
00:41:44.536 --> 00:41:46.805
and did a completely
orchestral record,

886
00:41:46.805 --> 00:41:49.107
and when I say orchestral
electronic record,

887
00:41:49.107 --> 00:41:51.743
I mean we didn't just
play the way that we play

888
00:41:51.743 --> 00:41:52.978
and add an orchestra to it,

889
00:41:52.978 --> 00:41:54.680
we flipped the whole
thing upside down.

890
00:41:54.680 --> 00:41:58.416
They were there and
they're there now.

891
00:41:58.416 --> 00:42:00.451
And it's just incredible.

892
00:42:00.451 --> 00:42:02.320
They're incredibly dedicated.

893
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:03.855
I've been able to
meet a lot of them,

894
00:42:03.855 --> 00:42:07.458
and they come from so many
different walks of life

895
00:42:07.458 --> 00:42:09.695
and so many different stories,

896
00:42:09.695 --> 00:42:13.665
and, you know, we're
all weird our own way,

897
00:42:13.665 --> 00:42:15.667
and I think that's
maybe what we share, you know?

898
00:42:15.667 --> 00:42:16.868
We're pretty open about it.

899
00:42:16.868 --> 00:42:18.704
- Ever since I started
playing in bands,

900
00:42:18.704 --> 00:42:22.774
I thought there's always gotta
be this one person, you know?

901
00:42:22.774 --> 00:42:25.977
That one person you try
to not hang out with,

902
00:42:25.977 --> 00:42:28.079
and I thought that was normal

903
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:29.314
because I didn't know better,

904
00:42:29.314 --> 00:42:33.418
and I learned, when
I joined Evanescence,

905
00:42:33.418 --> 00:42:38.423
I learned that it is possible
to have a band, a team,

906
00:42:39.457 --> 00:42:42.393
a crew where
everybody gets along,

907
00:42:43.494 --> 00:42:48.433
and it's not the
norm, and I know that.

908
00:42:49.768 --> 00:42:51.903
I wish things were different
for this first album

909
00:42:51.903 --> 00:42:53.104
in such a long time,

910
00:42:53.104 --> 00:42:55.040
but it is what it is,

911
00:42:55.040 --> 00:42:58.076
and it turned out
to be so strong,

912
00:42:58.076 --> 00:42:59.477
and I believe the
whole situation,

913
00:42:59.477 --> 00:43:01.579
what happened with this year,

914
00:43:01.579 --> 00:43:04.215
not only in the US, but
also with the world,

915
00:43:04.215 --> 00:43:07.452
with the pandemic, with a
lot of things that happened,

916
00:43:08.620 --> 00:43:13.524
I believe you can
totally feel that vibe

917
00:43:14.693 --> 00:43:15.994
in every single
song on this album

918
00:43:15.994 --> 00:43:19.297
because it's honest.

919
00:43:19.297 --> 00:43:21.299
It's so powerful and strong.

920
00:43:21.299 --> 00:43:26.304
It's encouraging, but
it's also the beauty of,

921
00:43:27.172 --> 00:43:29.641
okay, this is a tough situation.

922
00:43:29.641 --> 00:43:32.310
This is a vulnerable situation.

923
00:43:33.812 --> 00:43:35.947
It's not the utmost
positive situation

924
00:43:35.947 --> 00:43:38.784
that we're in right now,
but let's make it better.

925
00:43:38.784 --> 00:43:41.019
Let's fight for the good,

926
00:43:41.019 --> 00:43:42.788
and the whole vibe of that album

927
00:43:42.788 --> 00:43:46.624
is encouragement,
for me, personally.

928
00:43:46.624 --> 00:43:48.193
When I read through the lyrics,

929
00:43:48.193 --> 00:43:53.198
when I listen to the sounds
and to the songs in general,

930
00:43:53.932 --> 00:43:55.133
it's encouraging.

931
00:43:55.133 --> 00:43:58.937
It's like, it's
okay to be not okay.

932
00:43:58.937 --> 00:44:01.439
- We really put these
records together as a band.

933
00:44:01.439 --> 00:44:04.075
You know, we write together
and we really dig in together.

934
00:44:04.075 --> 00:44:06.745
You know, each one of
us brings our own thing,

935
00:44:06.745 --> 00:44:10.481
and, I mean, it's cool that
Amy has come to a point

936
00:44:10.481 --> 00:44:13.651
where she trusts us to be
a part of that with her.

937
00:44:13.651 --> 00:44:15.887
I think that's a really ballsy,

938
00:44:15.887 --> 00:44:18.957
but also, you know, I'm honored,

939
00:44:18.957 --> 00:44:20.692
we're all honored that
she feels that way.

940
00:44:20.692 --> 00:44:24.730
At the same time, she has
a mutual respect to us

941
00:44:24.730 --> 00:44:27.833
that this is really
important to me.

942
00:44:27.833 --> 00:44:29.600
Nobody's just phoning it in.

943
00:44:29.600 --> 00:44:31.102
- We have this band

944
00:44:31.102 --> 00:44:35.907
and we've had this album,
this year, to focus on,

945
00:44:35.907 --> 00:44:40.011
to pour ourselves into all
the fear and frustration

946
00:44:40.011 --> 00:44:43.048
and rage and love and longing,

947
00:44:43.048 --> 00:44:44.549
and, more than anything,

948
00:44:44.549 --> 00:44:49.420
I feel a want for a human
connection across distances

949
00:44:50.655 --> 00:44:52.290
with people we do and don't know

950
00:44:53.291 --> 00:44:57.628
just to feel unity as humankind,

951
00:44:57.628 --> 00:45:01.933
and music is a place where
that is somehow possible.

952
00:45:01.933 --> 00:45:06.537
So, I have, you know,

953
00:45:06.537 --> 00:45:08.606
through the difficulty and
challenge of this year,

954
00:45:08.606 --> 00:45:10.842
We had just decided, early on,

955
00:45:10.842 --> 00:45:13.779
that we were going
to dive head first

956
00:45:13.779 --> 00:45:15.046
into the creative
part of things,

957
00:45:15.046 --> 00:45:17.883
and, however we
could, push forward

958
00:45:17.883 --> 00:45:19.417
and make the best album ever,

959
00:45:19.417 --> 00:45:20.986
and put our whole
selves into it.

960
00:45:20.986 --> 00:45:23.188
It's taken all year.

961
00:45:23.188 --> 00:45:26.591
It really has been
a long process.

962
00:45:26.591 --> 00:45:28.259
What it's kinda done
is given me something

963
00:45:28.259 --> 00:45:31.529
to always be able to focus on

964
00:45:31.529 --> 00:45:34.199
beyond, like, we
can't deny reality.

965
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.001
We all need to be
aware right now,

966
00:45:36.001 --> 00:45:37.836
but you need an
escape from that, too.

967
00:45:37.836 --> 00:45:39.838
I need an outlet to
pour my feelings into.

968
00:45:39.838 --> 00:45:44.810
I need a way to feel
like, I don't know,

969
00:45:44.810 --> 00:45:47.612
that something good can
still come out of this time,

970
00:45:47.612 --> 00:45:49.848
because just pushing
the snooze button

971
00:45:49.848 --> 00:45:53.151
and waiting for things
to get better isn't real.

972
00:45:53.151 --> 00:45:55.586
That isn't gonna happen, and
it's a huge waste of life.

973
00:45:55.586 --> 00:45:56.822
We don't know if
we have tomorrow.

974
00:45:56.822 --> 00:45:58.089
- I don't like to slow down.

975
00:45:58.089 --> 00:46:02.293
When we catch a train,
I guess, of thought,

976
00:46:02.293 --> 00:46:03.995
when we're in the zone,

977
00:46:03.995 --> 00:46:06.965
in the pocket, and
creating great stuff,

978
00:46:06.965 --> 00:46:08.699
I wanna keep going.

979
00:46:08.699 --> 00:46:10.501
Usually, at the end of the tour,

980
00:46:10.501 --> 00:46:12.303
there's quite a bit of burnout

981
00:46:12.303 --> 00:46:16.107
at the end of the album cycle,
and you wanna take some time,

982
00:46:16.107 --> 00:46:18.609
and then so much time passes,

983
00:46:18.609 --> 00:46:21.046
and it becomes almost maddening

984
00:46:21.046 --> 00:46:22.647
that you're not doing it again.

985
00:46:22.647 --> 00:46:26.317
I do what I can to keep
creativity flowing,

986
00:46:26.317 --> 00:46:31.322
and if we weren't
under pandemic,

987
00:46:32.790 --> 00:46:35.726
I would be pushing to
keep on rocking, I think.

988
00:46:35.726 --> 00:46:37.028
When the pandemic is over

989
00:46:37.028 --> 00:46:39.931
and we can finally get
back to doing work,

990
00:46:39.931 --> 00:46:44.169
the world is gonna be so
hungry for all this stuff

991
00:46:44.169 --> 00:46:47.305
that I don't know that it's
gonna be possible to slow down,

992
00:46:47.305 --> 00:46:48.840
even if you want it to.

993
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:53.044
- If anything, I honestly
just feel like this album,

994
00:46:53.044 --> 00:46:57.815
having this, has been so, so
good and healing for all of us,

995
00:46:57.815 --> 00:47:00.351
has just been a coping mechanism
that's been so good for me

996
00:47:00.351 --> 00:47:02.888
and really made me
remember, yet again,

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how much I love this
band and making music.

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00:47:10.728 --> 00:47:15.666
♪ Only scars on my heart

999
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♪ Even in dreams I
hear you calling ♪

1000
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♪ Breaking the surface
I won't let go ♪

1001
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♪ You're part of me now

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♪ And always