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- Many people are gonna think

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they know what this story
is about.

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But they do not.

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- This morning,
we look to America's

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civil rights struggle
of the '60s and late '50s.

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Sadly, it's now estimated
that one

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if not two generations
of Americans

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are too young to have
direct recollection

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of those years.

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Now, thankfully, the years
are dramatically reconstructed

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in a six-part
documentary series

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which begins on PBS next week.

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It's called
"Eyes on the Prize."

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Henry Hampton
is executive producer

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of the series,
and he joins us now

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from our newsroom in Burbank.

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Good morning.
- Good morning, Bryant.

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- What is it you wanted to
achieve with it?

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- Well, I wanted
to capture the miracle.

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You had an extraordinary group
of leaders

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who emerged who literally

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changed the course
of the country's history.

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- Camera roll 1032,
sound roll 114.

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- Mark it.

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- Copy that.
- Team K.

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- The purpose of this series
is really to put the cameras

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on those unknown individuals,
those little-known people

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from the backwater counties

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of Georgia and Alabama
and Mississippi

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who really made this movement.

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- Have you seen the original
"Eyes on Prize," Prentis?

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- Yeah, of course.
- Okay.

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- I mean, not in a long time,
but yes.

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- The first time I saw "Eyes"

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I must've been a teenager.

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My former high school teachers

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had all these cassette tapes.

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It had such an impact on me.

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I don't know if I would
be doing what I'm doing now

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if it weren't
for "Eyes on the Prize,"

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if I didn't
have representation,

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if I didn't
have a place to see,

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you know, what was possible.

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- I always remember
being inspired

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but very traumatized.

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I was traumatized by looking
at the water, the dogs,

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these people dressed up
in this beautiful style

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having coffee poured on them,
not moving.

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I'm just enamored
and terrorized

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and inspired at the same time.

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So it was like this tender rage
and this beauty and terror.

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- I watched
"Eyes on the Prize"

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on the south side of Chicago
in my community center.

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I was like 14, 15.

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A bunch of Howard College kids
came to talk to us

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about their organizing
campaigns on campus.

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And then we watched
"Eyes on the Prize"

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for, like, three days.

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- "Eyes on the Prize" kept us--
it was like a bridge

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that kept us connected
to this history long enough

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for us to understand
how important it was.

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- When you really watch it
and look closely,

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it's like a record of...

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- Of just Black brilliance.

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Absolute Black brilliance,

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and all that

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we brought to movement--

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our spirit,
our love, our strategy,

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all of it
in there for the record.

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- We have gone
in our own past...

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And in the past of others

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to look
for alternative visions.

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- The archive ain't there
to be enclosed in amber.

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It ain't there to be

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just dusted off
every now and again.

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It's a tangible, living thing.

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And now it's like
technology'll put things

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in the hands of people
that you--

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that wasn't supposed
to have it,

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and now they get
to tell the story,

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and they get to shift
the narrative.

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Like, never before
could you see

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these things happen
in real time.

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- This country
teaches you to forget.

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We are supposed to forget.
That is America.

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If it doesn't run on anything,
it runs on forgetting.

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You forget
what happened to you.

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Move on.
That is the past, right?

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You walk it off,
but we must remember.

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Remember...

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- My first memory of
civil rights really revolves

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around the story
of a 14-year-old boy.

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It became--
for many of us,

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it was a time
that we understood

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our vulnerability
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- In the summer of 1955,
Emmett Louis Till,

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a junior high school student
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came down to the Delta
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Moses Wright.

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- When I opened the door,
there was a man standing

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with a pistol in one hand
and flashlight in the other

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and wanted to know,

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did I have two boys
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I told him I did,

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and said they wanted
the boy that didn't talk.

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- It's all yours, Kelly.
- Okay.

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How did you hear about

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the Emmett Till case,
Ms. Parks?

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- Well, it was on the news.

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- Would you start that again?
Tell me what was on the news.

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Remember, people
won't hear my voice.

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-  Oh, I'm sorry.

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The murder of Emmett Till--

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I believe he was
about 14 years old

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who was visiting his relatives.

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His home was in Chicago,

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and the...

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news came that he had been
brutally murdered

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and put into the river.

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His body was removed
from the river

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after it had been
weighted down

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and he was so badly mutilated

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he was unrecognizable.

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- I believe
that the whole United States

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is mourning with me.

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For him to have died a hero

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would mean more to me
than for him just to have died,

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and I hope that his death will
certainly start a movement

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in these United States
to clean up

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our own back alleys.

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Emmett was not just mine.

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He was a universal child.

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- I'm never gonna
get my son back.

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He's never gonna come back.

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So I'm gonna use my time
and my energy

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to help somebody else's son,

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to make a difference
in somebody else's life.

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- I believed in all
of the stories of America.

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You know, I thought
I could be the exceptional one.

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And very quickly
over those years,

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those Obama years specifically,

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I think, for a lot of us,
the veneer of what the U.S.

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has told us we could be
and what we could do snapped.

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- When Trayvon happened,
it echoed to Emmett Till,

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but it also echoed
to the people in my own life

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whose names
we all didn't get to know.

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- This exists.

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The country, no matter who
is the leader of the country,

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the steward of the empire,
it's gonna remain the same,

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gonna be recalcitrant,

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gonna be evil, gonna murder.

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- For them, I feel committed

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to creating
new possibilities for us.

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That feels like the honoring.
That feels like the listening.

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Understanding what's created it

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and making it less possible
each time

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for that to happen
to any more of us.

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That that is how

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we create a monument for them.

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- What kind of impact

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did his death have
on you personally?

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- Well, just like
any person murdered,

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I couldn't be any way than...

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Very upset,

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very...devastated

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by the...

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fact that in...

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The United States of America,

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that a child could be

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just taken out and killed.

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- Listen to me!

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They'll pretend

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that I'm crazy!

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Let me tell you
something right here.

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Listen to me!

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- So you go ahead and vote.
So what?

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- How you gonna tell me
to love

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this property that has
flaunted me every day?

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- Anger inside me night

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after night!

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- I wanna get your-your-your
feelings-feelings

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specifically towards
white people at that time.

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- At the time he was killed?
- Mm-hmm.

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- When Medgar was felled
by that shot,

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and I rushed out
and saw him lying there,

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and people
from the neighborhood

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began to gather,

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there were also
some whose color

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happened to have been white.

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I don't think I have ever

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hated as much in my life

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as I did
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with anyone who had white skin.

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I screamed at the neighbors,

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and when the police
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I told them
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and I can recall wanting
so much to have

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a machine gun or something
in my hands

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and just stand there
and mow them all down.

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I was just--

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I can't explain the depth

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of my hatred at that point.

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- On the day
that Medgar was--funeral.

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I mean, there was violence.

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I mean, there was no way
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There was a different element,
the people

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who had never participated
in the movement before.

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The police department
and others came there.

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They actually antagonized
the people.

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They were there
in full battalion gear

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with the riot armor on
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and they were being
pretty rough

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with the people
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And the people just said,
"We're not going to take that.

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"This is a funeral
of our leader.

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"And here they are,
you know, harassing us,

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and the white folk
killed him."

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Don't shoot!
Hands up!

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Don't shoot!

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Don't shoot!

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Don't shoot!

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We're still here!

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We're still here!
We're still here!

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- When I think about...

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The times I have felt
ancestral rage,

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it has been in moments

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where Black dignity
was stripped away.

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I remember everything
about August 9th--

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where I was, what I wore.

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I understood the interaction.

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Police officer stops
Black person.

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Harasses them.
I understood that.

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Every Black person
in St. Louis understood that.

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What I didn't understand

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was how that stop

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turned into Mike Brown
being killed.

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- Your child's in my heart.
- Thank you.

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- And when I went,
and I saw...

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I saw all these Black people
holding space.

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I knew what that was, right?

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This, like--this mourning,
this public funeral,

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this grieving out loud.

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And then I saw police come in
to attack that.

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Black mourning out loud
was a threat,

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and they reacted
as if though it was a threat.

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Black people being together
in public was a threat.

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To try to suppress
our mourning,

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I had a visceral response
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that there are mothers
who were crying,

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that there were
people's children out there,

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and they drove
down that street,

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and they got out those cars,

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and they had these dogs,

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and they had these
aerosol cans of mace.

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And I just remember thinking,
"This is violence.

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"You killed somebody.

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00:15:13,078 --> 00:15:15,114
"And then you get to come in
and tell us

260
00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:17,216
how to mourn what you did?"

261
00:15:17,283 --> 00:15:20,052
- You are in the streets
blocking the roadway.

262
00:15:20,119 --> 00:15:22,054
You are unlawfully assembled.

263
00:15:22,121 --> 00:15:24,456
You need
to disperse immediately,

264
00:15:24,556 --> 00:15:26,058
or you will be
subject to arrest.

265
00:15:26,125 --> 00:15:27,459
Do it now.

266
00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:29,762
- I was mad because
Black people couldn't be.

267
00:15:29,828 --> 00:15:31,463
Mike Brown couldn't be,

268
00:15:31,563 --> 00:15:32,798
and then the people who came

269
00:15:32,898 --> 00:15:34,900
to mourn Mike Brown
couldn't be.

270
00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:40,973
And that felt deep in my body
like something

271
00:15:41,073 --> 00:15:44,109
I had never felt before,
that level of anger.

272
00:15:48,847 --> 00:15:50,482
- I think that was
the most fearless

273
00:15:50,582 --> 00:15:52,952
I've ever been in my life.

274
00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:58,824
I was so out of body.

275
00:15:58,924 --> 00:16:03,662
It felt like
all spirit, all heart.

276
00:16:09,101 --> 00:16:12,871
Those long nights in Ferguson.

277
00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:19,778
The boots, the cop boots,

278
00:16:19,845 --> 00:16:23,949
the baton sticks
that they use,

279
00:16:24,016 --> 00:16:29,021
the shields, the weapons.

280
00:16:31,223 --> 00:16:35,060
It's like I have never
heard coldness, right?

281
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,628
But...

282
00:16:39,164 --> 00:16:41,867
In that moment,
at that time, I did.

283
00:16:41,967 --> 00:16:45,204
It felt and it sounded

284
00:16:45,304 --> 00:16:47,740
just cold.

285
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,744
It just felt dangerous,

286
00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:54,246
and it felt
like a loveless place,

287
00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:56,148
and time felt still.

288
00:16:58,217 --> 00:17:00,919
I would be out in Ferguson

289
00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:03,655
from as early as 6:00 p.m.

290
00:17:03,722 --> 00:17:06,525
until about 4:00
in the morning.

291
00:17:06,592 --> 00:17:10,863
No concept of time.
I wasn't even on my own time.

292
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,037
It wasn't until one day--

293
00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:21,540
I was doing my rotation
at a children's hospital,

294
00:17:21,607 --> 00:17:23,942
and I had to draw up
some medication.

295
00:17:24,042 --> 00:17:25,911
And my hands were shaking.

296
00:17:26,011 --> 00:17:30,716
That was the day
I went home from clinical...

297
00:17:33,118 --> 00:17:35,354
I made a phone call,

298
00:17:35,421 --> 00:17:38,590
and I said, "I'm dropping out."

299
00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,862
If I have to choose,

300
00:17:43,929 --> 00:17:47,199
I have to choose the community.

301
00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:48,867
That's where my heart is at...

302
00:17:52,604 --> 00:17:55,040
And I'm glad I did

303
00:17:55,107 --> 00:17:58,544
because Michael Brown

304
00:17:58,610 --> 00:18:00,813
changed this world...

305
00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:06,585
And the people
who fought for him

306
00:18:06,652 --> 00:18:09,088
changed this entire world.

307
00:18:22,968 --> 00:18:26,171
- I believed in all
of the stories of America.

308
00:18:26,271 --> 00:18:28,640
It's gonna be recalcitrant,
gonna be evil,

309
00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:30,409
gonna murder.

310
00:18:30,476 --> 00:18:33,946
- Makani Themba
caused 2020 a rupture.

311
00:18:34,012 --> 00:18:36,515
- Taylor, a 26-year-old
former EMT

312
00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:39,251
was shot and killed by police
in March.

313
00:18:39,318 --> 00:18:40,986
- Justified
in their use of force.

314
00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:42,521
- Have not been fired.

315
00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:44,423
- Protesters demanding
swift justice.

316
00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:45,991
- The death of George Floyd.

317
00:18:46,091 --> 00:18:47,860
- And the police officer
has not been charged.

318
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,161
- Violence and protests.

319
00:18:49,261 --> 00:18:51,196
- You couldn't situate

320
00:18:51,296 --> 00:18:53,599
the encounter George Floyd had

321
00:18:53,665 --> 00:18:55,100
with those officers

322
00:18:55,167 --> 00:18:57,202
without understanding
the larger pandemic

323
00:18:57,302 --> 00:18:58,837
and the economic devastation

324
00:18:58,937 --> 00:19:00,672
Black folks
were going through.

325
00:19:00,772 --> 00:19:03,008
You couldn't separate
the fact that Breonna Taylor

326
00:19:03,108 --> 00:19:05,511
was a frontline worker

327
00:19:05,611 --> 00:19:08,213
surviving COVID
killed by police.

328
00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:12,451
All of that came
to a head at that moment.

329
00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:13,819
In the face of a virus

330
00:19:13,886 --> 00:19:15,454
that was literally
killing people,

331
00:19:15,521 --> 00:19:17,556
folks felt
that it was still important

332
00:19:17,656 --> 00:19:18,857
to be in the street.

333
00:19:18,957 --> 00:19:20,492
So I understood it
as a rupture.

334
00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:21,727
That's how I understand it.

335
00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:25,364
- What we're trying to do
has never been done

336
00:19:25,464 --> 00:19:27,166
in the history on Earth!

337
00:19:27,232 --> 00:19:30,536
- Our lives matter.
Black lives matter.

338
00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:38,477
- Our streets!
- Our streets!

339
00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:39,811
- Our streets!
- Our streets!

340
00:19:39,878 --> 00:19:41,346
- Our streets!
- Our streets!

341
00:19:43,148 --> 00:19:46,885
- That uprising is so large
because everyone was suffering.

342
00:19:48,554 --> 00:19:52,324
- Human life, let it marinate.

343
00:19:52,991 --> 00:19:54,726
So many people
have reached out to me

344
00:19:54,826 --> 00:19:56,895
telling me they're sorry

345
00:19:56,995 --> 00:19:59,231
that this happened
to my family.

346
00:19:59,331 --> 00:20:01,934
Well, don't be sorry
'cause this has been happening

347
00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:04,570
to my family for a long time.

348
00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:11,009
Emmett Till is my family.
Philando, Mike Brown, Sandra.

349
00:20:11,076 --> 00:20:13,445
This has been happening
to my family.

350
00:20:13,545 --> 00:20:16,381
- And so by the time
George Floyd come around,

351
00:20:16,448 --> 00:20:18,083
I'm not surprised.

352
00:20:18,183 --> 00:20:19,251
- Unarmed.
- Unarmed.

353
00:20:19,351 --> 00:20:20,552
- Unarmed.
- Black teenager.

354
00:20:20,619 --> 00:20:21,720
- 18-year-old.

355
00:20:21,787 --> 00:20:23,088
- 26-year-old.
- 17.

356
00:20:23,188 --> 00:20:24,923
- African American man.
- Chicago woman.

357
00:20:25,023 --> 00:20:26,558
- Shot and killed by police.

358
00:20:26,625 --> 00:20:28,260
- Having any kind of
conversation around this

359
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,929
with anybody that ain't Black
is a chore in itself.

360
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:34,633
- This is nothing new.
I'm not sad.

361
00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:37,936
I'm not sorry.
I'm angry.

362
00:20:38,036 --> 00:20:42,941
And I'm tired.
I haven't cried one time.

363
00:20:43,041 --> 00:20:45,777
I stopped crying years ago.

364
00:20:45,877 --> 00:20:48,280
I am numb.

365
00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:50,983
I have been watching
police murder people

366
00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:53,452
that look like me for years.

367
00:20:55,554 --> 00:20:58,123
- The dream of Black people
in the United States

368
00:20:58,223 --> 00:21:02,127
necessitates the destruction
of this country

369
00:21:02,227 --> 00:21:05,297
from its roots.

370
00:21:05,397 --> 00:21:07,599
- They don't give
two damns about us,

371
00:21:07,666 --> 00:21:09,501
and a lot of us
always turn around

372
00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:12,471
worrying about what's good
for America, what's good--

373
00:21:12,571 --> 00:21:16,008
later for America.
What's good for Black people?

374
00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:19,911
- We must arm ourselves,
that we are in imminent danger.

375
00:21:19,978 --> 00:21:21,613
- Am I under arrest?
Am I under arrest?

376
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,148
- Why don't you place him
under arrest?

377
00:21:23,248 --> 00:21:25,350
- Liberation is not
about being killed.

378
00:21:25,450 --> 00:21:27,319
We are not interested
in those suicides.

379
00:21:27,419 --> 00:21:31,290
- We must continue to push
for all of our demands.

380
00:21:31,356 --> 00:21:34,293
- We want a new life.
- All power to the people.

381
00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:40,532
- We want a life
that we remember vaguely

382
00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:43,001
sometimes
in the back of our heads

383
00:21:43,101 --> 00:21:45,170
as a liberated African people.

384
00:21:47,506 --> 00:21:49,374
- I think it's
generally agreed

385
00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:51,677
that if we are to solve
our problems,

386
00:21:51,777 --> 00:21:54,946
we've got to transform
our powerlessness

387
00:21:55,013 --> 00:21:57,516
into causative
and creative power.

388
00:21:57,616 --> 00:22:00,385
- Then you talk
about Black power.

389
00:22:00,485 --> 00:22:02,688
I wanna know
what's wrong with it.

390
00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:04,456
- We believe
that Black power

391
00:22:04,523 --> 00:22:06,692
is not only legitimate,

392
00:22:06,792 --> 00:22:09,995
it is necessary
because we feel it.

393
00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:13,031
- We want Black power.
- Black power!

394
00:22:13,131 --> 00:22:15,200
- We want Black power.

395
00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:18,837
We want Black power!
We want Black power!

396
00:22:20,906 --> 00:22:22,908
- A lot of people
call a revolution

397
00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:24,710
a confrontation.

398
00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:27,145
Really what you and I meant
by revolution

399
00:22:27,212 --> 00:22:29,348
was a need to revolve
more political power

400
00:22:29,414 --> 00:22:31,883
and economic power back
into the hands of the people.

401
00:22:31,983 --> 00:22:33,218
That's really
what revolution is.

402
00:22:33,318 --> 00:22:34,553
- Power is always being used

403
00:22:34,653 --> 00:22:35,887
against us, right?

404
00:22:35,987 --> 00:22:37,022
Power has been used

405
00:22:37,089 --> 00:22:38,590
as a force to oppress us,

406
00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:41,093
and so we naturally grow up
feeling like power

407
00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:45,230
is inherently negative and bad,
but power is neutral, right?

408
00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:48,600
Power can absolutely be shared.
Power can be broken up.

409
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:51,436
Power can be used.
Power should not be hidden.

410
00:22:51,536 --> 00:22:53,171
Power should be discussed
and talked about.

411
00:22:53,238 --> 00:22:54,840
And when Black people
have power,

412
00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:57,008
we have the opportunity
to show what life looks like

413
00:22:57,075 --> 00:22:58,577
when people use their power

414
00:22:58,677 --> 00:23:01,012
for the betterment
of other people.

415
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:04,516
- What the Black Panther Party
has done and was able to do

416
00:23:04,583 --> 00:23:08,253
and where they emphasized
their work or effort,

417
00:23:08,353 --> 00:23:10,255
you know, absolutely
hitting the streets,

418
00:23:10,355 --> 00:23:13,024
absolutely talking to people,
and they're also organizing

419
00:23:13,091 --> 00:23:16,228
but also caring
for their communities too.

420
00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:33,278
- The idea
was obviously twofold

421
00:23:33,378 --> 00:23:35,781
for the specific purpose
of serving those people

422
00:23:35,881 --> 00:23:38,884
who were directly benefited
by our programs,

423
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:40,952
but also secondarily
to influence

424
00:23:41,052 --> 00:23:42,788
the minds of people
to understand

425
00:23:42,888 --> 00:23:44,956
not only
that the Black Panther Party

426
00:23:45,056 --> 00:23:47,426
was providing them this,
but more importantly,

427
00:23:47,492 --> 00:23:49,127
that if they could get food,

428
00:23:49,227 --> 00:23:50,829
that maybe
they would want clothing,

429
00:23:50,929 --> 00:23:52,564
and maybe they want housing,
and maybe they'd want land,

430
00:23:52,631 --> 00:23:53,932
and maybe they would ultimately

431
00:23:53,999 --> 00:23:56,067
want some abstract thing
called freedom.

432
00:23:56,134 --> 00:23:59,271
- Power is who gets
to set the choices,

433
00:23:59,337 --> 00:24:00,972
who gets to set the options.

434
00:24:01,072 --> 00:24:02,941
I want Black people
to have more choices.

435
00:24:03,008 --> 00:24:04,643
I want them to define
what those choices are,

436
00:24:04,743 --> 00:24:05,977
not just respond to what

437
00:24:06,077 --> 00:24:08,113
has been given to them
as the options.

438
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:11,783
- Affirmative action
is not reverse discrimination.

439
00:24:11,850 --> 00:24:14,252
It is rather the recognition
of the fact

440
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,421
that, for over 200 years,

441
00:24:16,488 --> 00:24:19,991
Black persons in these
United States of America

442
00:24:20,091 --> 00:24:21,460
have been excluded

443
00:24:21,526 --> 00:24:24,830
from the economic, social,
and political milieu

444
00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:26,331
of this great country.

445
00:24:26,431 --> 00:24:27,666
- We got to be
in every arena

446
00:24:27,766 --> 00:24:29,334
where they have power.

447
00:24:29,434 --> 00:24:31,603
We got to be willing
to go contest for it.

448
00:24:31,670 --> 00:24:33,171
- Tonight we show the world

449
00:24:33,271 --> 00:24:35,340
that working people
are united.

450
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,343
- We want teachers
who understand our community.

451
00:24:38,443 --> 00:24:40,645
- We will not compromise
on any term.

452
00:24:40,712 --> 00:24:42,848
- We are reclaiming this house

453
00:24:42,948 --> 00:24:45,350
from a billion-dollar
corporation.

454
00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:50,355
- The Black Panther Party
talked about the police

455
00:24:50,455 --> 00:24:53,892
as an occupying force
in the community,

456
00:24:53,992 --> 00:24:58,530
but we had not really
understood the extent

457
00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:01,166
to which the whole
criminal justice system,

458
00:25:01,233 --> 00:25:04,169
the police, the courts,

459
00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:06,738
the prison system

460
00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:09,741
is very much intertwined

461
00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:14,346
with the economic oppression

462
00:25:14,412 --> 00:25:16,047
of Black people.

463
00:25:16,147 --> 00:25:18,383
- The carceral system,
it's a whole pie, right?

464
00:25:18,483 --> 00:25:20,018
It's a whole thing.
It has many slices.

465
00:25:20,085 --> 00:25:21,386
Many different things
that come into it.

466
00:25:21,486 --> 00:25:22,888
We got cut somewhere.

467
00:25:22,988 --> 00:25:25,390
We give our permission
to cage our folks.

468
00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:29,528
We take the resources
from this jail,

469
00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:32,230
our folks will be better off
because that money

470
00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:33,598
can go to our people,

471
00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:35,066
and people can go home.

472
00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:37,002
- So when we say
"defund the police,"

473
00:25:37,068 --> 00:25:40,772
we mean take their money
and invest it in the things

474
00:25:40,872 --> 00:25:43,742
that actually create
safe communities.

475
00:25:43,842 --> 00:25:46,244
We mean
reimagine public safety.

476
00:25:46,344 --> 00:25:49,514
When we defund the police,
we have the capacity

477
00:25:49,581 --> 00:25:53,385
to reimagine public safety
and invest those dollars

478
00:25:53,451 --> 00:25:57,622
in what actually
makes safe communities.

479
00:25:57,722 --> 00:26:00,058
- When you have power,
you have the ability

480
00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:01,760
to make your tomorrows

481
00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:04,095
look like you wanted
them to look like.

482
00:26:04,195 --> 00:26:06,565
- I was talking about time.

483
00:26:06,631 --> 00:26:09,267
It's so hard for me
to believe in it.

484
00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:13,471
Some things go pass on.
Some things just stay.

485
00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:16,808
I used to think
it was my rememory.

486
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:28,420
- Who told you
to buy a brownstone

487
00:26:28,486 --> 00:26:31,289
on my block in my neighborhood
on my side of the street?

488
00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:33,224
- And our new Miss America

489
00:26:33,291 --> 00:26:34,626
is Vanessa Williams,
Miss New York!

490
00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:35,961
- ...This happen just because

491
00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:37,429
you were walking
down the street

492
00:26:37,495 --> 00:26:38,597
in a neighborhood where people

493
00:26:38,663 --> 00:26:39,965
thought you didn't belong?

494
00:26:40,065 --> 00:26:42,000
- Stop worrying
about integrating

495
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,802
and being accepted
and start thinking

496
00:26:43,902 --> 00:26:47,005
about building for yourself,
for our people

497
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:51,476
so that we can provide
a future for our children.

498
00:26:54,846 --> 00:26:56,314
- Liftoff.

499
00:26:56,414 --> 00:26:58,650
- If we were up in space,
I would be floating around.

500
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,088
- Lift me!

501
00:27:03,154 --> 00:27:04,990
- You've seen
these young children.

502
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:07,592
- What is it, a crime
to be Black in this country?

503
00:27:09,260 --> 00:27:12,330
- I felt that I had
to tell the truth.

504
00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:14,432
I could not keep silent.

505
00:27:17,936 --> 00:27:20,505
- You know,
the end of the '80s, early '90s

506
00:27:20,605 --> 00:27:23,274
was very similar
to this moment in history

507
00:27:23,341 --> 00:27:25,510
where there was
a lot of uprising,

508
00:27:25,610 --> 00:27:28,680
a lot of, you know, people

509
00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:31,316
who were doing movement work.

510
00:27:31,383 --> 00:27:34,519
- We will picket.
We will sit in.

511
00:27:34,619 --> 00:27:36,721
- Corrupt creatures--
- We will march.

512
00:27:36,821 --> 00:27:38,123
- Do you think age

513
00:27:38,189 --> 00:27:39,624
is a problem
in your community?

514
00:27:39,691 --> 00:27:42,360
- You will be hunted
no matter what you do.

515
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,529
- They said
we did not have name.

516
00:27:44,629 --> 00:27:45,897
- Where is the justice?

517
00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:49,134
- Things like this still
exist in America.

518
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,671
- I feel like the movement
of the '80s and '90s is lost.

519
00:27:52,737 --> 00:27:55,040
I came up in that.
There are young people--

520
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:57,242
I met a young person
from Ferguson

521
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,077
who was part
of the Ferguson uprising

522
00:27:59,177 --> 00:28:02,080
and stuff
who was--beautiful spirit,

523
00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:04,749
but he was telling me like,
"We finally got, you know,

524
00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:07,218
people pushing back
against police brutality."

525
00:28:07,318 --> 00:28:08,520
And I was like, "Are you--

526
00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:11,322
are you--
what are you talking about?"

527
00:28:11,389 --> 00:28:13,324
- What was happening
to me was happening

528
00:28:13,391 --> 00:28:15,560
to virtually everyone
whom you could identify

529
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:17,729
in that community
who was of color.

530
00:28:17,829 --> 00:28:19,264
- Today we're willing
to get arrested

531
00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,599
just so Giuliani knows
that we're really serious

532
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,268
and that the police shootings
must stop.

533
00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:26,571
- What happened today
with Rodney King was unjust.

534
00:28:26,671 --> 00:28:28,506
- Why'd they have to beat
the mess out of him like that?

535
00:28:28,573 --> 00:28:31,576
- Movement has to continue
or it's not movement.

536
00:28:31,676 --> 00:28:36,448
And so it may be lulls in it,
but it never stops.

537
00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:41,453
So many people jump
from the '60s to 2013.

538
00:28:42,454 --> 00:28:44,389
Yusef Hawkins,

539
00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:47,692
Amadou Diallo,
Abner Louima.

540
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,428
I was in the streets
for all of that.

541
00:28:50,528 --> 00:28:52,797
Million Youth March
was, like, '98.

542
00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:55,433
That was huge.

543
00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:57,435
We were protesting.
We were marching.

544
00:28:57,535 --> 00:29:00,438
We were organizing,
but a lot of that is lost.

545
00:29:00,538 --> 00:29:02,273
Guilty, guilty, guilty!

546
00:29:02,373 --> 00:29:07,112
Guilty, guilty, guilty!
Guilty, guilty, guilty!

547
00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:12,817
- The documentation
of movements,

548
00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:14,953
they're essential.

549
00:29:15,053 --> 00:29:17,122
And...

550
00:29:17,222 --> 00:29:19,491
where would I be
without that information?

551
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,729
I may have learned it
a little late,

552
00:29:24,796 --> 00:29:27,132
but I needed it.

553
00:29:27,232 --> 00:29:29,801
I needed to know the truth.

554
00:29:29,901 --> 00:29:31,603
What happens when we isolate,

555
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:34,172
when we single-story
a systemic issue?

556
00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:35,907
If we only see

557
00:29:35,974 --> 00:29:37,809
Martin Luther King Jr.
for example.

558
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:40,912
- We are depending
on moral and spiritual forces.

559
00:29:40,979 --> 00:29:43,815
using the method
of passive resistance.

560
00:29:43,915 --> 00:29:47,152
- If we see him
without the administration,

561
00:29:47,252 --> 00:29:49,921
without all the Black women
that made it possible,

562
00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:51,322
without Malcolm,

563
00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:53,591
without understanding
the story of the nation.

564
00:29:53,658 --> 00:29:56,961
- By any means necessary.

565
00:29:57,028 --> 00:29:58,663
- Sure, I learned
about Bayard.

566
00:29:58,763 --> 00:30:00,598
- My point is that
all the police,

567
00:30:00,665 --> 00:30:03,368
all the curfews,
all the bully clubs,

568
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:06,204
all the guns
will not stop rioting.

569
00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:08,273
- But where were the other
queer and trans people?

570
00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:11,843
But the truth is,
there were more of us

571
00:30:11,943 --> 00:30:13,611
than I could even know about

572
00:30:13,678 --> 00:30:17,949
because I'm here,
and I'm not so unique.

573
00:30:18,016 --> 00:30:20,185
I'm not so special.

574
00:30:20,285 --> 00:30:23,721
- We had to find things,
uncover things.

575
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:26,391
So much was hidden.
So much was untold.

576
00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:29,661
So much stuff
was not even given a space

577
00:30:29,727 --> 00:30:33,531
to be able to exist, right?

578
00:30:33,631 --> 00:30:35,700
So there are many lost stories,

579
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,002
stories that
weren't told at all.

580
00:30:38,069 --> 00:30:41,573
- I do mourn for those stories,

581
00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:43,374
that nuance, those details

582
00:30:43,474 --> 00:30:46,744
that inevitably
get lost in time.

583
00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:52,417
- I truly believe
from the bottom of my heart

584
00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:55,420
that Black trans women are
the architects of resilience.

585
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,591
I think about ancestors
like Francis Thompson.

586
00:31:00,825 --> 00:31:02,560
Many of us
were taught in schools

587
00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:04,829
that Elizabeth Cady Stanton
was the first woman to testify

588
00:31:04,896 --> 00:31:06,497
before
a congressional committee,

589
00:31:06,564 --> 00:31:08,900
but in reality,
it was Francis Thompson,

590
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,170
a formerly enslaved
Black disabled trans woman.

591
00:31:13,504 --> 00:31:15,907
That testimony
about the atrocities

592
00:31:16,007 --> 00:31:18,610
that happened
during the Memphis riots

593
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:20,278
was the reason
why the 14th amendment

594
00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:24,115
was ratified,
which afforded Black Americans

595
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:26,584
equal protection
under the law.

596
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:29,454
A Black trans woman's legacy

597
00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:30,922
is forever engraved

598
00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:33,358
in the United States
Constitution.

599
00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:35,560
The reason why she was robbed

600
00:31:35,627 --> 00:31:37,962
of her historical
acknowledgment

601
00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:42,734
is because years later
there started to be rumors

602
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,904
that she was
assigned male at birth.

603
00:31:46,938 --> 00:31:50,308
Francis Thompson's story
is not an uncommon one.

604
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:01,920
- Darling, I want
my gay rights now.

605
00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:03,821
I think it's about time

606
00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:06,457
the gay brothers and sisters
got their rights.

607
00:32:06,557 --> 00:32:08,927
- You know, when I was a kid,

608
00:32:08,993 --> 00:32:12,163
I couldn't see
far into the future.

609
00:32:12,263 --> 00:32:15,300
I didn't see myself
very far into the future.

610
00:32:16,301 --> 00:32:19,337
There was so much richness,
so much joy in my life,

611
00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,606
but I grew up queer,

612
00:32:21,673 --> 00:32:23,975
and I didn't know
many queer people

613
00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:26,477
who were the age
that I am now.

614
00:32:26,577 --> 00:32:28,079
So many people
didn't make it that far.

615
00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:30,848
- You need to begin
with a movement

616
00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:32,150
which is what Black Power

617
00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:33,685
and the Civil Rights
Movement was.

618
00:32:33,785 --> 00:32:35,186
Then immediately within it,

619
00:32:35,286 --> 00:32:36,854
you are going to get
those people

620
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,857
whose differences
are not being articulated.

621
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:43,161
- For me, it's a discovery
to be this age.

622
00:32:43,261 --> 00:32:47,098
Life or God is out here
creating

623
00:32:47,165 --> 00:32:50,001
just so many different ways
of being.

624
00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:53,504
What if I looked at the world
with reverence

625
00:32:53,604 --> 00:32:56,140
and not control?
What would I see?

626
00:32:56,207 --> 00:32:57,775
- Those balls and all that,

627
00:32:57,842 --> 00:33:00,144
that's like our fantasy
of being a superstar.

628
00:33:00,211 --> 00:33:01,679
- What if I looked at myself

629
00:33:01,779 --> 00:33:03,948
with curiosity
and not control?

630
00:33:06,651 --> 00:33:07,852
- It helps out
when somebody else

631
00:33:07,952 --> 00:33:08,853
is there in your corner.

632
00:33:08,953 --> 00:33:10,221
- 'Cause with y'all

633
00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:12,323
vicious mother ,
it do take nerve.

634
00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:15,994
- And allowed myself
to discover myself,

635
00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:18,696
to unfold in front of myself.

636
00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:21,799
That's what my experience
as a queer person

637
00:33:21,866 --> 00:33:24,035
is really about.

638
00:33:24,135 --> 00:33:27,839
- I know how you watch
as you grow older--literally,

639
00:33:27,905 --> 00:33:30,041
that is not
a figure of speech--

640
00:33:30,141 --> 00:33:31,509
the corpses of your brothers

641
00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:33,578
and your sisters
pile up around you

642
00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:37,215
and not for anything
they have done.

643
00:33:37,315 --> 00:33:39,717
They were too young
to have done anything.

644
00:33:39,817 --> 00:33:42,186
In any case, too helpless.

645
00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:46,324
- Also just the wonder
of creation, you know,

646
00:33:46,391 --> 00:33:49,894
that I am, that we are.

647
00:33:49,994 --> 00:33:53,564
That's really been the teacher
of queerness for me.

648
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,070
- I don't want there
to ever be a moment

649
00:33:59,170 --> 00:34:01,105
in which someone else
can tell us

650
00:34:01,205 --> 00:34:03,941
what was true for us,

651
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:09,614
and we not have
the proof,

652
00:34:09,714 --> 00:34:11,249
the material,

653
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:15,853
the documentation
to show otherwise.

654
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,758
We know what
erasure can do to us.

655
00:34:24,028 --> 00:34:28,099
- What movement does each time
and what we are seeing happen

656
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,436
is that we're starting
to even tease apart

657
00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:33,738
the things that our movement
has not done right, right?

658
00:34:33,805 --> 00:34:37,108
The things that have been
unseen that we made unseen.

659
00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:38,609
And the thing that I think
about the most

660
00:34:38,709 --> 00:34:42,480
is how this iteration
of movement centers

661
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:44,649
and lifts up
the voices of people

662
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:47,285
who are often silenced
in previous moments, right?

663
00:34:47,385 --> 00:34:49,787
That, like,
our labor has been unseen.

664
00:34:49,887 --> 00:34:51,756
Our contributions
have been unseen.

665
00:34:51,823 --> 00:34:53,658
What does it mean
for Black queer women

666
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,426
to be at the forefront
of a movement?

667
00:34:55,493 --> 00:34:56,894
What does it mean
for trans folks

668
00:34:56,961 --> 00:34:59,130
to be leading in this time?

669
00:34:59,230 --> 00:35:00,965
- Ours didn't really
cover women

670
00:35:01,065 --> 00:35:02,633
as strongly as it should have,

671
00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:05,503
you know, but at least
we got to see them.

672
00:35:08,573 --> 00:35:11,976
- It is staggering when you
look at the history books

673
00:35:12,076 --> 00:35:13,411
and get a sense
that this period

674
00:35:13,478 --> 00:35:15,746
was basically males
because nothing

675
00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:18,749
could be further
than the true.

676
00:35:18,816 --> 00:35:22,520
- Black women were playing
extremely important roles.

677
00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:25,623
The Civil Rights Movement
would not have been what it was

678
00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:28,993
without the roles
of Fannie Lou Hamer

679
00:35:29,093 --> 00:35:31,863
and Daisy Bates
and Ella Baker

680
00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:35,299
and Ruby Doris Robinson
and Joanne Robinson,

681
00:35:35,366 --> 00:35:37,001
and we can go
on and on and on.

682
00:35:37,101 --> 00:35:41,038
- We're not taught
about Ida B. Wells, Ella Baker,

683
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:43,474
Fannie Lou Hamer, right?

684
00:35:43,541 --> 00:35:45,776
And it's not just about
the work that they did.

685
00:35:45,843 --> 00:35:48,846
I think it's also
who they are as people.

686
00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:52,116
I know who I want to be,
and it's informed

687
00:35:52,183 --> 00:35:53,718
by a lot of these Black women

688
00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:57,155
that I've seen, like,
in movement spaces.

689
00:35:57,221 --> 00:36:00,057
- When we think about the ways
in which Black women

690
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:03,694
put our bodies on the line,
our health on the line,

691
00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:07,865
and our safety on the line
for the rights and dignity

692
00:36:07,965 --> 00:36:09,367
that everyone benefits from,

693
00:36:09,467 --> 00:36:14,839
but yet we're the last ones
to reap the reward.

694
00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:19,377
- Black women
have carried the labor

695
00:36:19,477 --> 00:36:22,480
of cultivating this country
and this world

696
00:36:22,547 --> 00:36:24,849
on their shoulders
in a particular way,

697
00:36:24,916 --> 00:36:26,417
and a particular experience.

698
00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:29,887
To navigate anti-Blackness,
white supremacy,

699
00:36:29,987 --> 00:36:32,924
and then on top of it,
navigate patriarchy,

700
00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:34,892
heteronormativity, transphobia,

701
00:36:34,992 --> 00:36:37,862
and all of these other levels
of oppression

702
00:36:37,929 --> 00:36:39,530
creates
this particular experience.

703
00:36:39,597 --> 00:36:41,866
- I have literally,
since 14 years old,

704
00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:44,569
dedicated my life
to Black people.

705
00:36:44,669 --> 00:36:47,772
I don't--there's nothing
I love more than Black people.

706
00:36:47,872 --> 00:36:49,740
That includes Black men.

707
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,410
I have stood by,
worked with, held up,

708
00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:55,012
held down Black men
my whole life.

709
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,683
But the minute I talk about
violence against Black women,

710
00:36:58,749 --> 00:37:01,786
I suddenly have become
the enemy of Black men.

711
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:04,589
There was this whole uprising
around police brutality.

712
00:37:04,689 --> 00:37:06,057
Right?
For the last several years,

713
00:37:06,123 --> 00:37:08,526
definitely.
This new wave of people

714
00:37:08,593 --> 00:37:11,429
being outraged
about police brutality.

715
00:37:11,529 --> 00:37:13,798
What people said to me is
this is not the time

716
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:17,134
for that "me too" stuff.
We gotta deal with Black lives.

717
00:37:18,636 --> 00:37:21,072
And I'm incredulous, all right?

718
00:37:21,138 --> 00:37:25,610
I'm like, "So you think,
you believe with all your heart

719
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:27,445
"that Black lives matter,

720
00:37:27,545 --> 00:37:29,413
"and you don't think
about the Black lives

721
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,716
that are ruined
by sexual violence?"

722
00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:40,291
Black women experience

723
00:37:40,391 --> 00:37:41,759
the second-highest rate
of sexual violence

724
00:37:41,826 --> 00:37:43,961
in this country,
and a lot of that violence

725
00:37:44,061 --> 00:37:46,330
happens at the hands
of Black men.

726
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:49,400
It's a truth that does not mean
that Black men

727
00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:52,169
are bad, immoral, evil,

728
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:55,606
but it does mean that we have
to talk about something.

729
00:37:55,673 --> 00:37:57,475
There's a conversation
to be had

730
00:37:57,575 --> 00:37:59,176
internally in our community.

731
00:38:02,246 --> 00:38:04,849
I need somewhere
for this truth to live.

732
00:38:04,949 --> 00:38:07,618
This is a truth
that Black women are holding.

733
00:38:21,766 --> 00:38:22,967
- Last year...
- Okay.

734
00:38:23,034 --> 00:38:24,468
- Do you remember
the young woman

735
00:38:24,535 --> 00:38:27,972
Oluwatoyin Salau?
- Of course, Toyin, yeah.

736
00:38:29,607 --> 00:38:31,208
I didn't know
you was gonna ask about that.

737
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:33,377
It still makes me emotional.

738
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:39,517
She was 19, you know?

739
00:38:39,617 --> 00:38:42,053
And she looked like
one of my daughter's friends.

740
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:44,722
- Our lives matter.
Black lives matter.

741
00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:47,692
Black trans lives matter.
- Yes!

742
00:38:47,792 --> 00:38:49,560
- Trans lives matter!

743
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,000
You cannot take my Blackness

744
00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:57,301
away from me.

745
00:38:57,368 --> 00:38:58,369
My Blackness is not

746
00:38:58,469 --> 00:39:00,037
for your consumption!

747
00:39:00,137 --> 00:39:01,539
It is not!

748
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:04,975
- There's no way
that you should be able to

749
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:08,179
go to a action...

750
00:39:08,245 --> 00:39:11,315
not have a place to stay,

751
00:39:11,382 --> 00:39:14,819
and sitting on a bus stop
on your way

752
00:39:14,885 --> 00:39:18,556
to try to figure out
your housing,

753
00:39:18,656 --> 00:39:21,192
be taken and killed.

754
00:39:25,096 --> 00:39:27,698
- That video is haunting.

755
00:39:27,765 --> 00:39:29,700
She's just
dancing and laughing

756
00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:32,536
and twerking in the mirror
and just being regular

757
00:39:32,603 --> 00:39:34,438
like what she should be--

758
00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:37,074
free and feeling good
about herself,

759
00:39:37,174 --> 00:39:39,410
and somebody took
that away from her.

760
00:39:44,949 --> 00:39:47,918
She was running
from sexual violence

761
00:39:48,018 --> 00:39:50,788
and ended up being vulnerable,

762
00:39:50,888 --> 00:39:52,356
and there's
just not enough spaces

763
00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:55,760
for vulnerable Black girls
to be safe.

764
00:39:57,695 --> 00:40:00,898
- She loved it so much...

765
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:05,136
and she deserves to be here.

766
00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:16,414
I see so many Black women
in her.

767
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,751
I think about what could have
been possible in her life.

768
00:40:20,818 --> 00:40:22,787
Who loved her?

769
00:40:22,887 --> 00:40:25,790
You know,
what was important to her?

770
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:27,758
Was she loved?

771
00:40:27,825 --> 00:40:30,294
Just her power
and her dignity.

772
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:35,132
When she told her story

773
00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:38,636
about what happened
to her publicly,

774
00:40:38,736 --> 00:40:40,304
and I think about,

775
00:40:40,404 --> 00:40:45,409
"What if just someone
would have listened,

776
00:40:45,476 --> 00:40:47,244
"would've been there,
would have intervened

777
00:40:47,311 --> 00:40:49,113
in some kind of way?"

778
00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:55,820
- I don't know
if we have solutions--

779
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,090
the necessary solutions
to patriarchal violence yet.

780
00:41:01,325 --> 00:41:02,993
I want Black women
particularly

781
00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:05,763
to be able to live out
their wildest dreams,

782
00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:08,466
and so I hope that we can
put more intention

783
00:41:08,532 --> 00:41:10,935
into asking Black women
and girls,

784
00:41:11,001 --> 00:41:12,870
"What does it look like
to feel safe?

785
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:16,173
"What would need to happen here
for you to feel safe,

786
00:41:16,273 --> 00:41:18,843
and how can we embody that?"

787
00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:30,154
- So many of our girls

788
00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:33,991
don't have
a soft place to land.

789
00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:53,410
- Yer.
- What?

790
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:54,411
What is "yer"?

791
00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:58,816
- My dream sacred space

792
00:41:58,883 --> 00:42:01,252
involves a lot
of trees around,

793
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:04,522
to being close to nature
and feeling around it.

794
00:42:06,156 --> 00:42:09,159
I would say
that my sacred space

795
00:42:09,226 --> 00:42:12,196
will also have my dog Dream
'cause she's like--

796
00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:13,330
- Puppy!
- Yes.

797
00:42:13,397 --> 00:42:15,399
She's like--
she gives me--

798
00:42:15,499 --> 00:42:17,268
like, you know, like,
when I'm feeling sad

799
00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:19,169
or when I'm, like, depressed
and laying in my bed,

800
00:42:19,236 --> 00:42:21,839
like if Dream comes and, like,
licks my face or something,

801
00:42:21,906 --> 00:42:24,875
it's like everything to me.

802
00:42:24,942 --> 00:42:27,444
I would want a room that has--

803
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:30,347
that holds, like, a lot
of emotional space for me

804
00:42:30,414 --> 00:42:32,550
to be vulnerable.

805
00:42:32,616 --> 00:42:35,519
And I think for me really
to be okay

806
00:42:35,586 --> 00:42:37,087
with being vulnerable
and not being like,

807
00:42:37,187 --> 00:42:38,756
"Well, you have
to suck it up,"

808
00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:40,624
or "You have to stop"
because there's like

809
00:42:40,724 --> 00:42:43,093
all this other stuff going on.

810
00:42:43,193 --> 00:42:44,795
If I didn't have to worry
about, like,

811
00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:46,363
all of this other
outside stuff,

812
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:47,932
there would be nothing
holding me back,

813
00:42:48,032 --> 00:42:52,136
but I think the fear
of, like, not being settled

814
00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:53,637
and not being like--

815
00:42:53,737 --> 00:42:55,105
like it's not,
like, necessarily,

816
00:42:55,205 --> 00:42:56,540
I guess, a safe space,

817
00:42:56,607 --> 00:42:58,542
but you know
that your ends are gonna meet,

818
00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:00,277
and you're gonna, like--
you're gonna survive.

819
00:43:00,377 --> 00:43:03,948
And I think sometimes we choose
survival over safe space.

820
00:43:15,726 --> 00:43:16,927
That's the ultimate goal.

821
00:43:16,994 --> 00:43:18,629
To just, like, be.
- Yeah.

822
00:43:18,729 --> 00:43:20,264
- To be, and we've been
talking about that all day.

823
00:43:20,331 --> 00:43:21,799
Like, no matter
what we're gonna do,

824
00:43:21,899 --> 00:43:23,300
being a Black girl, like,

825
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,802
there's always
gonna be something,

826
00:43:24,902 --> 00:43:27,004
and sometimes
you just want to be.

827
00:43:31,642 --> 00:43:33,844
- To me, building a home
is like having

828
00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:38,082
my own sacred space where
I think like, "You're safe.

829
00:43:38,148 --> 00:43:39,249
You're taken care of."

830
00:43:39,316 --> 00:43:40,751
Like, yes, life is difficult,

831
00:43:40,818 --> 00:43:42,353
but you're still growing
every single day

832
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:43,988
and everything is temporary.

833
00:44:22,292 --> 00:44:26,063
- A sacredness
is a respect of the divine,

834
00:44:26,163 --> 00:44:28,732
even in places
of trauma and terror.

835
00:45:13,844 --> 00:45:18,248
- These children unoffending,

836
00:45:18,348 --> 00:45:22,219
innocent, and beautiful...

837
00:45:23,787 --> 00:45:25,556
Were the victims of one

838
00:45:25,622 --> 00:45:30,894
of the most vicious
and tragic crimes

839
00:45:30,961 --> 00:45:34,932
ever perpetrated
against humanity.

840
00:45:35,032 --> 00:45:37,568
- 18 days after
the March on Washington,

841
00:45:37,634 --> 00:45:39,236
Birmingham, Alabama,

842
00:45:39,303 --> 00:45:42,272
a bomb exploded in
the 16th Street Baptist church

843
00:45:42,372 --> 00:45:44,408
just before
a Sunday morning service.

844
00:45:44,475 --> 00:45:48,979
15 people were injured.
Four children were killed.

845
00:45:51,148 --> 00:45:53,550
- They are
the martyred heroines

846
00:45:53,617 --> 00:45:56,954
of a holy crusade

847
00:45:57,054 --> 00:46:00,224
for freedom and human dignity.

848
00:46:00,290 --> 00:46:02,259
We must be concerned

849
00:46:02,326 --> 00:46:05,763
not merely
about who murdered them,

850
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:08,799
but about the system,
the way of life,

851
00:46:08,899 --> 00:46:12,736
the philosophy
which produced the murderers.

852
00:46:25,249 --> 00:46:27,785
- Good night,
sweet princesses.

853
00:46:31,121 --> 00:46:34,091
- May the flight of angels

854
00:46:34,158 --> 00:46:38,695
take thee to thy eternal rest.

855
00:47:10,627 --> 00:47:13,897
- Places like
Ferguson and Baltimore

856
00:47:13,997 --> 00:47:16,033
where these uprisings
took place

857
00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:18,702
after these
state-sanctioned killings

858
00:47:18,802 --> 00:47:20,504
are hallow ground, right?

859
00:47:20,571 --> 00:47:25,175
And so seven years almost
after Mike Brown is killed,

860
00:47:25,242 --> 00:47:28,812
I can't go on Canfield Drive

861
00:47:28,879 --> 00:47:33,483
and not feel immense energy,

862
00:47:33,550 --> 00:47:35,752
like, coming from the concrete.

863
00:47:44,895 --> 00:47:48,765
- A sacredness is
a respect of the divine,

864
00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:51,368
even in places
of trauma and terror,

865
00:47:51,435 --> 00:47:53,437
that there's this idea
and understanding

866
00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:55,038
that there is something
more to this,

867
00:47:55,105 --> 00:47:56,740
that there is
a spiritual dimension,

868
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,508
that there's always
something happening

869
00:47:58,575 --> 00:48:02,045
behind the scenes
that we can't see.

870
00:48:06,850 --> 00:48:09,386
I also I wanna uplift that

871
00:48:09,453 --> 00:48:11,188
anywhere
where Black people are

872
00:48:11,255 --> 00:48:13,390
is a sacred space.
You know?

873
00:48:15,926 --> 00:48:17,728
- What then is Black

874
00:48:17,794 --> 00:48:21,031
that it should be redefined?

875
00:48:24,401 --> 00:48:29,406
Black is the form of forms,

876
00:48:29,473 --> 00:48:33,477
the womb of infinity

877
00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:37,614
out of which all things come

878
00:48:37,714 --> 00:48:41,718
and to which
they in time return.

879
00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:50,661
It contains all things
without distinction.

880
00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:53,730
In its deep pitch,

881
00:48:53,797 --> 00:48:57,401
the seed of life begins.

882
00:48:57,467 --> 00:49:02,472
From its dark down
comes healing sleep.

883
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,810
To its merciful ink,

884
00:49:06,910 --> 00:49:10,480
consciousness flees pain.

885
00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:13,684
From its infinite reach

886
00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:15,786
comes the light of day.

887
00:49:18,422 --> 00:49:21,925
Black plagued, blacklist,

888
00:49:21,992 --> 00:49:25,162
Black Sunday,
black market

889
00:49:25,262 --> 00:49:26,797
notwithstanding.

890
00:49:28,932 --> 00:49:31,034
- Roll 428.
Marker.

891
00:49:33,203 --> 00:49:36,039
- And I'm gonna ask you
one more time.

892
00:49:36,139 --> 00:49:38,642
You go--all Mississippi people
go through,

893
00:49:38,709 --> 00:49:40,711
the violence, the struggles,
the...

894
00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:42,646
Why--

895
00:49:42,713 --> 00:49:45,349
why do you stay in Mississippi?

896
00:49:45,449 --> 00:49:47,517
- We put a lot in it.

897
00:49:47,617 --> 00:49:51,488
People like myself
was born on this river.

898
00:49:53,357 --> 00:49:57,494
I love the land.
It's the Delta.

899
00:49:57,561 --> 00:50:01,798
And to me it's now a challenge.
It's history.

900
00:50:01,865 --> 00:50:05,035
It's everything of what
Black people is all about.

901
00:50:05,135 --> 00:50:08,038
We came up out of slavery.

902
00:50:09,373 --> 00:50:11,708
And this is where
we acted it out,

903
00:50:11,808 --> 00:50:14,711
I suppose, all of the work,
all of the hard work,

904
00:50:14,811 --> 00:50:16,213
and all that.

905
00:50:16,313 --> 00:50:20,350
But we put in
our blood, sweat, and tears,

906
00:50:20,417 --> 00:50:22,552
and we love the land.

907
00:50:29,326 --> 00:50:32,329
- It's only fitting
that--and inevitable

908
00:50:32,396 --> 00:50:36,233
that Vincent Harding
would be our first speaker.

909
00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:39,236
He was without doubt

910
00:50:39,336 --> 00:50:41,438
the spiritual father
in many ways

911
00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:44,541
of "Eyes" and led us
from the very beginning.

912
00:50:44,608 --> 00:50:47,344
- In this period,

913
00:50:47,411 --> 00:50:51,048
I think that the major part

914
00:50:51,114 --> 00:50:53,683
of our experience

915
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:57,888
has been the search
for alternative visions.

916
00:50:58,755 --> 00:51:03,293
And we have gone
in our own past...

917
00:51:03,393 --> 00:51:05,562
and in the past of others

918
00:51:05,629 --> 00:51:08,865
to look for
those alternative visions.

919
00:51:21,044 --> 00:51:22,779
- If you're only looking
at what's in front of you,

920
00:51:22,879 --> 00:51:26,483
you can't look up.

921
00:51:30,787 --> 00:51:33,590
- Matter cannot be created
nor destroyed.

922
00:51:33,657 --> 00:51:36,493
I existed from
the beginning of time.

923
00:51:36,593 --> 00:51:38,595
I just didn't exist
in this form.

924
00:51:38,662 --> 00:51:42,732
All the particles
and atoms in me

925
00:51:42,799 --> 00:51:44,134
were somewhere.

926
00:51:44,234 --> 00:51:47,237
They just weren't together
yet to form me.

927
00:51:47,304 --> 00:51:49,272
And so I've been here.

928
00:51:49,339 --> 00:51:53,310
I have pride that I'm related
in some form or fashion

929
00:51:53,410 --> 00:51:55,312
to whatever heritage
that I, unfortunately,

930
00:51:55,412 --> 00:51:58,348
I don't know about.
I share their blood.

931
00:51:58,448 --> 00:52:01,284
They live inside me
in some form or fashion,

932
00:52:01,351 --> 00:52:03,987
and their energy
has traveled with me too.

933
00:52:04,087 --> 00:52:06,823
And I feel like they will
always continue to guide us.

934
00:52:06,923 --> 00:52:08,792
They will always live in us.

935
00:52:11,628 --> 00:52:16,199
- My dreams are a space
of radical imagination.

936
00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:21,872
They are not restricted
and confined to a world

937
00:52:21,972 --> 00:52:25,041
in which white supremacy
has dominated.

938
00:52:25,142 --> 00:52:29,846
They allow for creativity
and exploration.

939
00:52:32,115 --> 00:52:34,017
Sometimes
what we are fighting for

940
00:52:34,117 --> 00:52:35,852
is right in front of us.

941
00:52:35,952 --> 00:52:37,654
It's a safe house
along the way

942
00:52:37,721 --> 00:52:39,289
to the North Star.

943
00:52:39,356 --> 00:52:40,957
Getting people safe,

944
00:52:41,024 --> 00:52:43,627
improving their conditions
gives them opportunity

945
00:52:43,693 --> 00:52:46,396
to think about the North Star
because if you're only looking

946
00:52:46,496 --> 00:52:49,399
at what's in front of you,
you can't look up.

947
00:52:53,904 --> 00:52:55,572
- If we're gonna talk
about a Black dream,

948
00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:59,409
a Black African American dream,
a Black diasporic dream,

949
00:52:59,509 --> 00:53:01,244
it has to start
at the radical root.

950
00:53:01,344 --> 00:53:03,813
Who are we when we are not
the benefactors

951
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,383
of the exploitation of women,

952
00:53:06,483 --> 00:53:07,751
the exploitation of people

953
00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:09,586
in so-called
third world nations,

954
00:53:09,686 --> 00:53:11,488
the exploitation
of domestic colonies

955
00:53:11,555 --> 00:53:12,889
within the United States?

956
00:53:12,989 --> 00:53:15,659
Who are we when we reach
that self-actualization,

957
00:53:15,725 --> 00:53:17,394
that community actualization

958
00:53:17,494 --> 00:53:20,864
where we can just be?
Be who we're supposed to be?

959
00:53:20,931 --> 00:53:22,766
- This work
is about bringing people

960
00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:24,401
back to their true nature,

961
00:53:24,501 --> 00:53:26,102
to what you were
before the terror

962
00:53:26,203 --> 00:53:27,237
of white supremacy,

963
00:53:27,337 --> 00:53:29,739
to what you were
before the lies,

964
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:31,575
the terror of capitalism.

965
00:53:33,043 --> 00:53:34,611
- Healing is the work
of getting

966
00:53:34,711 --> 00:53:37,113
other people's stories
out of your system,

967
00:53:37,214 --> 00:53:40,116
other people's shame
out of your body.

968
00:53:42,852 --> 00:53:46,690
- When I think about
how our ancestors lived

969
00:53:46,756 --> 00:53:49,759
and I think about
African indigeneity,

970
00:53:49,859 --> 00:53:51,461
in particular,

971
00:53:51,561 --> 00:53:55,465
there wasn't "time."
There was space.

972
00:53:55,565 --> 00:53:57,434
There was us.
There was place.

973
00:53:57,534 --> 00:54:00,537
There was community.
There was sustenance.

974
00:54:00,604 --> 00:54:04,441
And that so much
of what we operated by

975
00:54:04,541 --> 00:54:06,943
was based off of the land.

976
00:54:13,617 --> 00:54:16,586
All of us may not be free yet,

977
00:54:16,653 --> 00:54:18,788
but we can create
freedom portals,

978
00:54:18,888 --> 00:54:23,326
and we can create
these experiences of freedom.

979
00:54:29,232 --> 00:54:31,668
- And we're talking
about Black futures.

980
00:54:31,768 --> 00:54:35,005
You can't get to a Black future
without Black dreaming.

981
00:54:37,274 --> 00:54:39,075
- Well, you know,
the title of the series

982
00:54:39,142 --> 00:54:40,477
is "Eyes on the Prize," and--

983
00:54:40,577 --> 00:54:42,078
- And the prize
remains elusive,

984
00:54:42,145 --> 00:54:43,613
the prize being freedom.

985
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,951
- I think the prize
remains well-defined

986
00:54:48,018 --> 00:54:50,487
for many Americans,
many Black Americans,

987
00:54:50,587 --> 00:54:53,490
many women, many people
out of the mainstream.

988
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:55,625
The prize
still remains elusive.

989
00:54:55,692 --> 00:54:57,093
But I think that those of us

990
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,796
who came
out of that experience

991
00:54:59,863 --> 00:55:03,600
continue to try
and focus on those areas

992
00:55:03,667 --> 00:55:06,503
where total dream
of the movement

993
00:55:06,603 --> 00:55:08,471
hasn't been realized.

994
00:55:10,206 --> 00:55:13,009
- If I had a legacy to leave,

995
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:15,679
there's very little else
I could ask of it,

996
00:55:15,779 --> 00:55:18,181
but, of course, I will,

997
00:55:18,281 --> 00:55:20,617
that maybe those countries
that haven't seen it will

998
00:55:20,684 --> 00:55:24,621
and maybe it'll be there
for generations yet born.

999
00:55:24,688 --> 00:55:26,523
- And then
I'm gonna do my last one.

1000
00:55:26,623 --> 00:55:29,459
I want to know
what the prize is.

1001
00:55:29,526 --> 00:55:31,061
- Hm.
- You know?

1002
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:32,662
What does that mean to you?

1003
00:55:32,729 --> 00:55:35,532
What is the prize
that your eyes are on?

1004
00:55:35,632 --> 00:55:37,967
- Hmm. Wow.

1005
00:55:40,236 --> 00:55:42,672
Ooh, ain't that
a question, huh?

1006
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:48,411
- Mary Hooks says
that the mandate

1007
00:55:48,511 --> 00:55:52,916
for Black people in this time
is to honor our ancestors,

1008
00:55:53,016 --> 00:55:55,018
earn the respect
of future generations,

1009
00:55:55,085 --> 00:55:56,853
and to be willing
to be transformed

1010
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,755
in the service of the work.

1011
00:55:58,855 --> 00:56:02,759
That willingness
and that transformation

1012
00:56:02,859 --> 00:56:05,395
is the prize.

1013
00:56:05,495 --> 00:56:08,164
- I don't think
I've ever really sat down

1014
00:56:08,231 --> 00:56:10,767
and thought
what does a world without me,

1015
00:56:10,867 --> 00:56:13,570
like, having to fight
for something look like.

1016
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:16,439
I don't think
we've ever historically

1017
00:56:16,539 --> 00:56:19,242
have had just, like,
a moment of rest.

1018
00:56:26,516 --> 00:56:28,718
- The prize for me
is that folks

1019
00:56:28,785 --> 00:56:31,054
should have
the fundamental necessities

1020
00:56:31,121 --> 00:56:33,289
of what it means
to be a human being,

1021
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,759
that folks can live
into their dreams.

1022
00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:47,370
- Most people would say
the prize is freedom.

1023
00:56:47,437 --> 00:56:50,106
And I think we define freedom
in different ways,

1024
00:56:50,206 --> 00:56:52,475
and think about freedom
in different ways,

1025
00:56:52,575 --> 00:56:55,478
but, you know, prize
is always our liberation.

1026
00:56:57,547 --> 00:56:59,916
- Just an equitable society
that yields

1027
00:56:59,983 --> 00:57:03,653
dignity, safety,
and access for all of us.

1028
00:57:03,753 --> 00:57:06,456
- The prize is abolition.

1029
00:57:06,556 --> 00:57:09,259
The prize is our ability

1030
00:57:09,325 --> 00:57:12,429
to determine our own destinies.

1031
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:16,900
- The prize is we win.

1032
00:57:16,966 --> 00:57:19,135
And I know you want to ask,
"What is winning?"

1033
00:57:19,235 --> 00:57:21,304
You know, what is the victory?

1034
00:57:23,139 --> 00:57:25,108
I think it's just
hundreds of thousands

1035
00:57:25,175 --> 00:57:28,311
if not millions of people
who are completely transformed

1036
00:57:28,411 --> 00:57:32,916
and know who they are,
know whose they are.

1037
00:57:32,982 --> 00:57:34,784
They love each other.

1038
00:57:34,851 --> 00:57:38,288
They feel powerful
in the presence of one another.

1039
00:57:41,991 --> 00:57:44,527
- Self-determination...

1040
00:57:44,627 --> 00:57:48,097
it's...it's...

1041
00:57:50,166 --> 00:57:51,334
Creation.

1042
00:57:51,434 --> 00:57:53,369
It's becoming all over again.

1043
00:57:56,973 --> 00:58:00,677
It's taking everything
that has happened

1044
00:58:00,777 --> 00:58:06,115
and remaking the world
in a new way.

1045
00:58:06,182 --> 00:58:10,353
It's Black children

1046
00:58:10,453 --> 00:58:14,791
that imagine futures

1047
00:58:14,858 --> 00:58:17,293
that I can't conceive of yet.

1048
00:58:29,672 --> 00:58:31,808
- Any and every part
of my journey

1049
00:58:31,875 --> 00:58:34,711
has had ancestral guidance.

1050
00:58:58,768 --> 00:59:00,236
- Come on, now, rock with me.



