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[birds chirping]

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[Nathan] <i>I'm Nathan. I'm 13.</i>

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<i>I live in Denver, Colorado
with my mom.</i>

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<i>When I get home,
I'll go longboard,</i>

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<i>maybe Skype a friend
or go outside,</i>

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<i>play with the neighbors.</i>

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I don't know how old I was
when I figured out

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that I was conceived
with donor sperm though.

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<i>Most of my friends</i>

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<i>come from a pretty
normal family.</i>

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<i>I tried to look
for the donor, but...</i>

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[man speaking]

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No.

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<i>When I was first contacted
by other siblings,</i>

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<i>I remember that I was talking</i>

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<i>to friends on Facebook</i>

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<i>and I got a message saying,</i>

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<i>you know, "Are you Nathan?
Do you live in Denver?"</i>

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<i>I said "Yes."</i>

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And that's how I met them.

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[woman] <i>This is the audio tape</i>

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<i>of donor 5114.</i>

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<i>Today's date
is October 23rd, 1996.</i>

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[man]<i> Hello,</i>
<i>my donor number is 5114.</i>

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<i>I am six feet one inch tall.</i>

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<i>I have medium build,
straight brown hair,</i>

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<i>and brown eyes.</i>

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<i>I have full lips,</i>

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<i>and my racial color code
as established</i>

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<i>by the California Cryobank
is white.</i>

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[woman]<i> Can you give me</i>
<i>one or two adjectives</i>

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<i>that best describe you?</i>

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[man]<i> I would say</i>
<i>optimistic and curious.</i>

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[woman] <i>Do you have any hobbies?</i>

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[man]<i> Any hobbies, yes.</i>

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<i>I like fly fishing and running,</i>

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<i>reading,
and traveling especially.</i>

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[woman]<i> Do you have anything</i>
<i>that you would like to say</i>

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<i>to the recipient of your sperm</i>

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<i>or a child born from your sperm?</i>

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[man]<i> Yes.</i>
<i>I wish them all the luck.</i>

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[woman]<i> This is, like,</i>
<i>one of the three pictures</i>

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<i>I have of me and you together.</i>

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No, it's... You're not
in anything in here,

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this is all before...
B.N., Before Nathan.

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That's the first...
That's Hawaii,

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that's...
You were seven weeks old.

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<i>People thought I was crazy.</i>

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<i>"They said "What'd you do,
just give birth</i>

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<i>and get on a plane?"</i> [chuckles]

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I think I knew from the time
I was seven years old

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that basically
what I wanted to be

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when I grow up was a mommy,

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<i>and it just ended up</i>

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<i>that I was single
for most of my life</i>

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and so I decided to do

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a donor insemination.

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I never considered
an extended family.

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<i>I never really...
Even the thought of siblings</i>

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<i>didn't really enter my mind.</i>

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You're so excited about the fact

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that you're starting
this journey

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with having a baby.
You don't think of,

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you know, you got...

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You don't think about
the wider picture.

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Everyone thought
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a nine-pound baby

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and you were six pounds,
thirteen ounces.

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You were microscopic.

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[Nathan]<i> When my half-siblings</i>
<i>first contacted me,</i>

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I remember being happy
that I had half-siblings

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<i>but a little frustrated
with my mom</i>

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because she had known
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and she hadn't told me before.

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Well, I had told my mom
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and she didn't think

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it would be a good idea
to tell Nathan.

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<i>She believed that
he had a family</i>

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<i>and he didn't need
any other family.</i>

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<i>Then I thought, well, you know,</i>

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<i>when he's older,
if he ever wants to know,</i>

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if he ever puts it together
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you know, there might be,

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I just thought
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And I left it alone.

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I never really thought that

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I would come in contact
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but I knew that
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that there were, out there.

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<i>Me and the other siblings
always get on Skype,</i>

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<i>talk to each other online</i>

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<i>after we all get home
from school.</i>

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<i>I feel like
I've already known them</i>

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for longer than I have

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even though I might know
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<i>Being online having social media</i>

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<i>really helps us stay connected</i>

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because so far,

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it's the only contact we have

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between each other.

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[woman]<i> He's been on Skype</i>
<i>with these siblings</i>

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since the day he met them

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<i>and tomorrow
we are getting on a plane</i>

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<i>and we are flying to Taos</i>

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<i>and he is going to meet
five of his half-siblings.</i>

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- [Nathan] Hi.
- [Zeke] Hi.

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[woman] You must be Zeke.

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[Zeke] My name is Zeke.

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- [man] Yeah.
- [man] Do you have a...

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- [woman] Hi.
- [Nick] Hey.

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Hello.

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[indistinct chatter]

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- [woman] Let's go.
- [girl] Let's go.

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- Hi.
- [Nathan] Hi.

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[Alexis] Hi, Nate.

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- [Nathan] Hi.
- Okay.

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[indistinct chatter]

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[Alexis] Ten hours.

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[indistinct chatter]

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[man speaking]

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[Danny] Oh, yeah.

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[Alexis] Danny,
I brought you a flower.

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[indistinct chatter]

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So where did you come from?

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[indistinct chatter]

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[Danny] Oh we got a tarantula.

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[man] Yeah, where
is the tarantula anyway?

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[indistinct chatter]

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[woman]
It's kind of overwhelming.

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It's... There's a lot of people

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and a lot of children
and I had talked

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<i>to a couple of people outside</i>

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when I first got here
and everyone's so friendly

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and nice and it's just exciting.

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[Neylan] Oh, I have
a present for you.

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Oh, cool.

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A bracelet.

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- Yeah, it's pretty.
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Yeah. We're sisters, you know?

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They all say "sisters forever."

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Yeah. We're all girls here.

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- Right, Danny?
- [Zeke] What?

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[Danny] What? No, yes.

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[man] <i>So when you guys got here,</i>

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<i>you guys got here last night.</i>

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Like,
what did you guys do today?

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- Waiting for Nathan.
- Yeah. He never came.

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[Danny] On Skype, he told me
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by, like, 5:00 in the morning

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so we were all up till like
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- waiting for him.
- Yeah.

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- And then...
- We slept on the balcony.

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And then it turned out
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in the morning.
I was like, "wow."

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[Nick]<i> At first,</i>
<i>I was really nervous.</i>

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<i>I didn't know what to say
because I feel like</i>

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<i>we're brothers and sisters but,</i>

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like, we've never met before.

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So I didn't really know
what to say.

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My name is Nick.

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May name is Danny.

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My name is Alexis.

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My name is Neylan.

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My name is Zeke.

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[Nick] I've noticed that
we all have full lips.

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[Alexis]<i> Yeah.</i>
<i>And dark eyebrows.</i>

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[Neylan]
<i>And bushy eyebrows, yeah.</i>

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[Alexis]<i> Some of us have,</i>
<i>like, kind of wide-ish noses</i>

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like we do
and he does kind of...

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And we all play soccer.

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- Yeah.
- Right?

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Do most of us do track?

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I do track, yeah.

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It's my favorite sport, so.

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[Nick] Today, like,
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We got to know each other
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- [Neylan] Yeah.
- Yeah.

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And I wanna know
Nathan more, too.

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[Danny]<i> At first,</i>
<i>meeting Neylan's mom,</i>

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they found each other
and we've been talking

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ever since we were little.

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[Alexis]
Their moms found, like, Nick

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and a few other people
and then like my mom really

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wasn't into the whole
donor thing

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and she was kind of like
staying away from it.

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And then I got interested

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and I started looking
for my half-siblings.

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She wasn't, like, against it.
She just didn't really

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think about it that much

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and, like, she was like,
"Oh, if my daughter's"

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interested in it,
I'll be interested in it...

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in it, too."
So, when I was old enough

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to understand and, like,
look for my half-siblings,

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then she kind of like
helped me out.

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Yeah.

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I have not had any contact

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with any of the mothers
before this.

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I've been sort of on the margin.

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So I find the experience
both delightful,

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I think they're all
very, very wonderful,

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but I also find it
quite frankly odd

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because here I am
with a group of women

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who have had children
by the same man as I have

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and we just met.
So it is a bit...

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Again, it's very delightful

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but it's also weird, I think.

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But we can't hate each other...

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- No. No. No.
- ...because our man

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didn't, like, screw around
or anything.

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- No. No.
- It's all by choice.

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It's... Yeah.

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I never in my wildest dreams

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would have thought
we would be sitting here

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with other children
from the same donor.

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I guess I never really
thought about the fact

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that Neylan was gonna
meet these other children,

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and they were gonna
be like siblings.

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They've got a connection

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and I think it's hard
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to understand because
we all have the connection

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because we've picked
the same number.

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But the kids have the connection

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that they came
from the same person.

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[woman]<i> Okay, Donor 5114,</i>
<i>are you a student?</i>

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[Nathan]<i> Yes.</i>

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[woman]
And what are you studying?

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[man]<i> I'm studying</i>
<i>my masters in architecture.</i>

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[woman]<i> Can you give me</i>
<i>one or two adjectives</i>

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<i>that best describe you?</i>

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[man]<i> I'd say optimistic</i>
<i>and curious.</i>

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[woman]<i> And what do you</i>
<i>admire in others?</i>

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[man]<i> I admire when people</i>
<i>show a sense of courage</i>

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<i>and honesty.</i>

243
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[woman]<i> And what do you least</i>
<i>like about others?</i>

244
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[man]
<i>I least like lying, really.</i>

245
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<i>It something
that bothers me a lot.</i>

246
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- [woman]<i> Dishonesty?</i>
- [man]<i> Dishonesty.</i>

247
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[woman]<i> Okay. Great. Good.</i>

248
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<i>Do you have anything
that you would like to say</i>

249
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<i>to your recipient of your sperm</i>

250
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<i>or a child born from your sperm?</i>

251
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[man]<i> Yes.</i>
<i>I wish them all the luck.</i>

252
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[woman]<i> Okay. All right.</i>
<i>That's it. Thank you.</i>

253
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Well, the first time
I heard it, I was like...

254
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I was kind of shocked
to hear his voice

255
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because I didn't really, like,

256
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I didn't know like at all
what he was like

257
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and it just, like,
makes me more curious

258
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about what he's like
and what he looks like.

259
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[Alexis] I wished that
he had said more in the tape,

260
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like, I expected more.

261
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When they asked him, like,
if there was anything

262
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that he'd like
to pass on to, like,

263
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the recipients of his donation,

264
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like, I wish he had said
more than good luck,

265
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like, that kind...
That part kind of

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made me feel kind of empty,

267
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like, that's all
you have to say? Yeah.

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[Danny] Like it was almost
like in the profile

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that he like just donated

270
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because he needed
the college money.

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Sort of seemed like that.

272
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- [Neylan] Yeah.
- Right.

273
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If he wants to have,
like, contact with us

274
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when we get older.

275
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[dramatic music playing]

276
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[birds chirping]

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[Alexis]<i> I want our donor</i>
<i>to know that,</i>

278
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<i>yeah, we really want to meet him</i>

279
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<i>and we know that
he probably has a life</i>

280
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<i>of his own now
and he might have, like,</i>

281
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a partner and kids
that he's raised

282
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and that we just wanna have,

283
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like, some identity
of who we are.

284
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[Danny]<i> Because you wanna</i>
<i>know the other half of you,</i>

285
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<i>like, you only know
what your mom gave you.</i>

286
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- Yeah. Like...
- And sometimes

287
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you're not even that
similar to your mom,

288
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so you're like ugh.

289
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[Nick]
<i>It's, like, hard to, like,</i>

290
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<i>not be able to think
of who your dad is.</i>

291
00:13:34,713 --> 00:13:36,481
<i>Most of my friends
can just, like,</i>

292
00:13:36,515 --> 00:13:38,583
talk about their dad
or, like, know who they are

293
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and I can't, like...

294
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Like I can't even picture him
in my head

295
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of what he looks like,
only my mom.

296
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[dramatic music playing]

297
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[Alexis] So we're all
here in California

298
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and we're gathering
for our second

299
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sibling reunion.
Some of us haven't met before

300
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- and... Like Mattie...
- And me.

301
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...and Sadie.

302
00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:22,894
I think we're all
just looking forward

303
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to having a really good time
here with one another.

304
00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:28,233
[dramatic music playing]

305
00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:35,473
[Mattie] It hasn't, like,
hit me yet

306
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that, like, I met everyone

307
00:14:37,443 --> 00:14:39,444
because we all
just kind of clicked

308
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and we connected really well.

309
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<i>And it all felt
just really natural.</i>

310
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[Sadie]<i> Yeah.</i>
<i>We get along so well already</i>

311
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because we're related
so we're kind of not afraid

312
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to just be ourselves

313
00:14:49,588 --> 00:14:51,122
and we don't have
to like impress them

314
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<i>because we're all like
brothers and sisters,</i>

315
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and it's not like
meeting new people,

316
00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:56,895
<i>you have to worry about like
what they think of you.</i>

317
00:14:56,929 --> 00:14:59,797
[Mattie]<i> Yeah.</i>
<i>And we all like talk about</i>

318
00:14:59,832 --> 00:15:01,766
stuff about ourselves
that you normally

319
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wouldn't share
with other people,

320
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<i>and we compare ourselves,
like, oh,</i>

321
00:15:05,504 --> 00:15:07,705
<i>- you have the same...</i>
- [Sadie]<i> Yeah.</i>

322
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We have the same feet.

323
00:15:10,142 --> 00:15:12,377
[dramatic music playing]

324
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[Lisa]<i> Sadie and I found out</i>
<i>about the first reunion</i>

325
00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:17,715
<i>and it was too late
for us to come to</i>

326
00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:19,517
<i>and Sadie was devastated,</i>

327
00:15:19,551 --> 00:15:21,119
<i>and she wanted
to come on her own</i>

328
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and I had to explain that

329
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we really didn't know
anyone yet.

330
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And I promised her
that the next one,

331
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<i>that we would come
to no matter what.</i>

332
00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:32,063
[Amanda] <i>When I got with Cindy,</i>

333
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I said I will not be with you

334
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- unless we can have a child.
- We can have kids.

335
00:15:35,734 --> 00:15:37,335
And at that point,
we didn't know

336
00:15:37,369 --> 00:15:39,637
any other gay people
to begin with, much less

337
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any other people that
had children for sure.

338
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<i>For her to have not only a
connection to other families</i>

339
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<i>that are similar to ours
but then also to have</i>

340
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<i>a half-sibling or relation
to that connection.</i>

341
00:15:49,381 --> 00:15:52,483
And it's just bigger
than we could ever dream

342
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- and it's beautiful.
- [woman] Best ever.

343
00:15:54,753 --> 00:15:56,788
- [woman] [indistinct]
- Hey.

344
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[woman] I'm just gonna talk
to you later.

345
00:15:58,557 --> 00:15:59,991
[woman] Hey, Nate.

346
00:16:00,025 --> 00:16:03,728
[indistinct chatter]

347
00:16:03,762 --> 00:16:04,896
[Mattie]
<i>I've been looking forward</i>

348
00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:06,531
<i>to going to the Cryrobank</i>

349
00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:08,833
<i>just to like see
what it's all about.</i>

350
00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:11,102
It's just weird going
somewhere that he's been

351
00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:13,037
because I know
that I've always, like,

352
00:16:13,072 --> 00:16:15,506
imagined in my head ever
since I was a little girl,

353
00:16:15,541 --> 00:16:19,010
"Oh, I wonder,
like, how my dad is or,

354
00:16:19,044 --> 00:16:20,912
like, what he's doing
or where he's been."

355
00:16:20,946 --> 00:16:23,348
So it's just, kind of,
like a weird feeling.

356
00:16:23,382 --> 00:16:25,283
Like Mattie said,
since I was young,

357
00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:27,352
I've always had this
really, like,

358
00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:29,454
profound curiosity
to, like, know he is.

359
00:16:29,488 --> 00:16:32,123
So I guess whenever
I go places, like,

360
00:16:32,157 --> 00:16:33,958
when I went to New York.
I was like,

361
00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:36,127
"Oh, I bet he walked here.
I bet he's been here before."

362
00:16:36,161 --> 00:16:38,229
And when we go
to the California Cryrobank,

363
00:16:38,263 --> 00:16:39,897
we will know for sure
he's been here before.

364
00:16:39,932 --> 00:16:42,000
So that's, kind of, like,
a weird feeling

365
00:16:42,034 --> 00:16:44,202
but I'm excited.

366
00:16:44,236 --> 00:16:47,238
[dramatic music playing]

367
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,881
[Dr. Cappy] Hello.

368
00:16:56,915 --> 00:16:59,784
Hello, welcome
to the California Cryrobank.

369
00:16:59,818 --> 00:17:01,953
It's wonderful to see everybody.

370
00:17:01,987 --> 00:17:04,489
Whether you realize it or not,

371
00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:07,792
you're a brand new generation
of what's taking place.

372
00:17:07,826 --> 00:17:10,528
I mean, all of a sudden,
from individuals

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you become an extended family,

374
00:17:12,664 --> 00:17:14,399
in two or three generations,
wow,

375
00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:16,701
what an extended family
you're gonna be.

376
00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:23,674
<i>All right. So this
is our cryogenic center</i>

377
00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:27,612
<i>and we distribute about
30 plus thousands of sperm</i>

378
00:17:27,646 --> 00:17:29,514
<i>every year all over the world.</i>

379
00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,349
And I would think
that at this time,

380
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we probably have about 65

381
00:17:33,819 --> 00:17:36,988
to maybe 70,000 children born.

382
00:17:37,022 --> 00:17:40,792
And by looking at your group
as an example,

383
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we're doing a good job.

384
00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:44,829
So somebody asked about sperm.

385
00:17:44,863 --> 00:17:47,432
So right here,
you can see the ampules,

386
00:17:47,466 --> 00:17:49,767
their sperm when it came.
Want to...

387
00:17:49,802 --> 00:17:51,636
Anybody want to take
and interesting picture?

388
00:17:54,673 --> 00:17:55,773
Whoa.

389
00:17:59,711 --> 00:18:01,179
How's that for a birthday cake?

390
00:18:01,213 --> 00:18:02,580
[indistinct chatter]

391
00:18:02,614 --> 00:18:04,582
Happy birthday.

392
00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:07,752
[Latrice]<i> I'm Latrice Allen.</i>

393
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I'm the donor
matching counselor.

394
00:18:11,623 --> 00:18:13,424
Initially when clients

395
00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:14,926
are coming in and they need help

396
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,195
with making a selection
of the donor,

397
00:18:17,229 --> 00:18:18,930
they generally
will send me a picture

398
00:18:18,964 --> 00:18:20,565
of whomever
they're trying to match

399
00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:22,133
and I try to find a donor

400
00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:25,002
that has the same
similar characteristics.

401
00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:27,038
And then at the end of that,

402
00:18:27,072 --> 00:18:29,540
when the offsprings
are turning 18,

403
00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:31,742
they're calling me
to help them find

404
00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:33,811
their donors if possible.

405
00:18:33,846 --> 00:18:36,681
Who's the oldest of...
Out of all the offsprings?

406
00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:38,116
- How old are you?
- Fifteen.

407
00:18:38,183 --> 00:18:39,817
[Latrice] You're 15?
So I would imagine

408
00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:41,853
that you would be the first
one that would call me

409
00:18:41,887 --> 00:18:43,554
to find out if we could get
in contact with the owner.

410
00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:44,922
On my 18th birthday.

411
00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:45,890
[Latrice] What donor number?

412
00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:48,926
[all] 5114.

413
00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,194
[Latrice] Basically what happens

414
00:18:50,229 --> 00:18:52,196
with anonymous contact,
if the donor

415
00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:53,898
still wants to remain anonymous,

416
00:18:53,932 --> 00:18:55,900
he doesn't wanna release
his identity.

417
00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:58,169
However,
he's willing to participate

418
00:18:58,203 --> 00:18:59,470
in some type of communication

419
00:18:59,505 --> 00:19:01,072
that's facilitated through me.

420
00:19:01,106 --> 00:19:03,908
So, I will have the offspring
send me a bio.

421
00:19:03,942 --> 00:19:06,110
Maybe a list of questions,
some photos

422
00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,745
if they're comfortable
with doing that,

423
00:19:07,779 --> 00:19:10,248
I'll cut and paste,
email that to the donor,

424
00:19:10,282 --> 00:19:12,483
the donor responds,
cut and paste, send it back,

425
00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:14,952
we play Ping-Pong
until the donor says,

426
00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:16,287
you know, "Have a great life."

427
00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:17,989
I have answered
all your questions.

428
00:19:18,023 --> 00:19:20,791
I wish you the best." Or,
"I feel comfortable enough

429
00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:24,762
to have this person
have my contact information."

430
00:19:24,796 --> 00:19:26,797
A lot of these donors
are married.

431
00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:28,232
They have their own children.

432
00:19:28,267 --> 00:19:29,967
So some of them
have discussed it

433
00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:31,802
with their wives,
some of them haven't.

434
00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:33,304
I find that the ones

435
00:19:33,338 --> 00:19:35,072
that haven't discussed it
with their wives

436
00:19:35,107 --> 00:19:37,108
are a little bit
more apprehensive

437
00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:39,877
about having any type
of communication.

438
00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:43,214
I can generally talk them
into anonymous communication,

439
00:19:43,248 --> 00:19:45,783
especially if they say
no right off the bat.

440
00:19:45,817 --> 00:19:47,652
So it's, you know,
just give us this.

441
00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:50,755
These kids are not looking
for a father figure,

442
00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:53,424
they're looking for a missing
piece to their puzzle.

443
00:19:53,458 --> 00:19:56,460
[dramatic music playing]

444
00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:09,340
[woman] I'd love to, like,
analyze it.

445
00:20:10,609 --> 00:20:12,109
- Oh, my gosh.
- [man] Is it...

446
00:20:12,144 --> 00:20:13,778
Is that real speed?

447
00:20:13,812 --> 00:20:15,813
[man] That is real speed, yeah.

448
00:20:16,848 --> 00:20:17,982
[woman] What?

449
00:20:20,252 --> 00:20:23,454
[Margot]<i> We're checking out</i>
<i>actual sperm in microscopes</i>

450
00:20:23,488 --> 00:20:25,456
and on the screen,

451
00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:27,258
checking it where it all began.

452
00:20:31,096 --> 00:20:33,564
<i>What's your favorite one?</i>

453
00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:35,800
<i>Only one of those guys
is gonna be the winner.</i>

454
00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:40,304
[woman]<i> When you talk</i>
<i>about with your siblings,</i>

455
00:20:40,339 --> 00:20:41,639
like, when you saw the tanks

456
00:20:41,673 --> 00:20:43,207
and when you saw
the dry ice or...

457
00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:45,409
I don't know. It's just weird
to know that, like,

458
00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:47,645
part of us has been here before.

459
00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:49,413
[Dr. Cappy]
Mattie, how is it having

460
00:20:49,448 --> 00:20:51,649
so many new siblings?

461
00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:54,051
I like them all. They're great.

462
00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:55,886
Thank you so much.

463
00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,221
[Dr. Cappy]
And thanks for coming,

464
00:20:57,256 --> 00:20:59,657
- I'm sorry you're leaving.
- Oh, me too.

465
00:20:59,691 --> 00:21:01,659
I wish I could stay forever.

466
00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:11,502
[Sadie]<i> I'm glad</i>
<i>I went to the Cryrobank</i>

467
00:21:11,536 --> 00:21:14,038
<i>but at the same time
it made me feel a little bit</i>

468
00:21:14,072 --> 00:21:16,107
<i>like we're not empty, but...</i>

469
00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:17,675
we didn't really get
more answers.

470
00:21:17,709 --> 00:21:18,676
- I don't know.
- We didn't...

471
00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:19,977
I'm glad I went but I...

472
00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,313
we didn't really get
more answers,

473
00:21:22,347 --> 00:21:23,814
but I think it was good
to just see

474
00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:26,017
where it all began.

475
00:21:26,051 --> 00:21:28,486
<i>Even if the donor
wanted to meet us</i>

476
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,621
<i>and we opened up
to meeting him as well,</i>

477
00:21:30,656 --> 00:21:32,290
<i>they couldn't connect us</i>

478
00:21:32,324 --> 00:21:34,025
<i>and I don't really think
that's really fair.</i>

479
00:21:34,059 --> 00:21:35,626
I don't think there's any
practical reason

480
00:21:35,661 --> 00:21:37,295
why you should say no

481
00:21:37,329 --> 00:21:40,598
if both sides
are open to contact.

482
00:21:42,534 --> 00:21:44,201
[Alexis]
<i>I think as soon as someone's</i>

483
00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:45,970
<i>close to turning 18,
I think we'll probably have</i>

484
00:21:46,004 --> 00:21:47,805
<i>like a countdown or something.</i>

485
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:49,273
- [Sadie]<i> Yeah.</i>
- [Alexis]<i> But I don't think</i>

486
00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:50,808
<i>we should get our hopes
too high up</i>

487
00:21:50,842 --> 00:21:52,476
because there's a good chance
he'll say no,

488
00:21:52,511 --> 00:21:55,046
but we can get excited about it.

489
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,180
Mmm-hmm.

490
00:22:02,587 --> 00:22:05,389
[Danny] That was my first
time swimming in the ocean.

491
00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:06,590
- Ever?
- Uh-huh.

492
00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,392
- Are you serious?
- Yes. I...

493
00:22:08,427 --> 00:22:09,760
Where have you been
all your life?

494
00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:13,230
Not like this on the east,
though.

495
00:22:13,265 --> 00:22:15,533
[woman] Grab your bag, Nathan.

496
00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:16,767
This is it.

497
00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:19,103
Anybody claim these socks? Ray?

498
00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:20,404
[indistinct chatter]

499
00:22:20,439 --> 00:22:21,739
[woman]
I think that there's a phone

500
00:22:21,773 --> 00:22:23,040
- underneath the bed.
- [man] Oh, good,

501
00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:24,942
because we're missing two.

502
00:22:24,976 --> 00:22:26,610
[Alexis]<i> The hardest part</i>
<i>of the trip, I think</i>

503
00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:29,046
<i>is just knowing
that you have to leave.</i>

504
00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,448
[Sadie]<i> It's gonna be</i>
<i>a while probably</i>

505
00:22:30,482 --> 00:22:32,550
<i>until we see each other.</i>

506
00:22:32,584 --> 00:22:34,352
[woman] Oh, yeah.

507
00:22:34,386 --> 00:22:35,753
[indistinct chatter]

508
00:22:35,787 --> 00:22:37,254
[woman]<i> The kids</i>
<i>are already starting</i>

509
00:22:37,289 --> 00:22:40,791
<i>to anticipate their goodbyes.</i>

510
00:22:40,826 --> 00:22:43,294
<i>There's a lot
of emotions flowing.</i>

511
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:48,332
[Nick]<i> I'm thankful</i>
<i>that all the families</i>

512
00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:50,000
<i>let us come and let us have</i>

513
00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:52,570
<i>the opportunity to do all this.</i>

514
00:22:52,604 --> 00:22:54,105
[Neylan]<i> I just think</i>
<i>it's really bittersweet</i>

515
00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:56,006
<i>but you can definitely
feel the love</i>

516
00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:58,843
<i>and how much we're gonna
miss one another.</i>

517
00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:00,611
[Danny]<i> Every time,</i>
<i>it gets a bit harder</i>

518
00:23:00,645 --> 00:23:03,414
<i>to say goodbye,
but it's reassuring to know</i>

519
00:23:03,448 --> 00:23:04,815
<i>that we'll have another one</i>

520
00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:07,017
<i>of these visits again
sometime soon.</i>

521
00:23:13,792 --> 00:23:16,193
[dramatic music playing]

522
00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:18,863
[Latrice] So two of the moms,
Brandy and Fran,

523
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,031
approached me after their visit

524
00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,800
and was curious to know

525
00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:25,002
if we had any additional vials

526
00:23:25,036 --> 00:23:27,171
from donor 5114.

527
00:23:27,205 --> 00:23:29,017
<i>And we did a little research</i>

528
00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:32,076
<i>and found that we had
an abandoned purchase</i>

529
00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:34,011
<i>and storage account
where the client</i>

530
00:23:34,045 --> 00:23:35,646
<i>didn't pay for the vial.</i>

531
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,481
<i>So, they were deemed abandoned</i>

532
00:23:37,516 --> 00:23:39,817
<i>and we were able to take
those vials back</i>

533
00:23:39,851 --> 00:23:41,185
<i>and make those available</i>

534
00:23:41,219 --> 00:23:44,622
<i>for Brandy and Fran.</i>

535
00:23:44,656 --> 00:23:47,691
<i>The chances of having vials
from a donor,</i>

536
00:23:47,726 --> 00:23:51,462
<i>from that far back is just,
like, pretty unlikely.</i>

537
00:23:51,496 --> 00:23:53,998
<i>As far as we know,
the vials that we found</i>

538
00:23:54,032 --> 00:23:56,267
<i>were the two last vials
that we have</i>

539
00:23:56,301 --> 00:23:59,737
<i>or will have available
on donor 5114</i>

540
00:23:59,771 --> 00:24:02,673
<i>and we wish them all the best.</i>

541
00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:09,013
[wind blowing]

542
00:24:11,082 --> 00:24:12,716
[Brandy] So this is the cane

543
00:24:12,751 --> 00:24:14,852
that the specimen comes in

544
00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:17,054
and the vial is clipped

545
00:24:17,088 --> 00:24:19,356
into this little cane.

546
00:24:19,391 --> 00:24:22,059
And this is the vial.
This is all we get.

547
00:24:22,093 --> 00:24:23,427
This is our shot.

548
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:24,929
It's not very much,

549
00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:27,531
but hopefully it'll do
the trick.

550
00:24:27,566 --> 00:24:29,633
[Francesca] We just need one.

551
00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:31,168
[Brandy]<i> We've been together</i>
<i>almost eight years</i>

552
00:24:31,203 --> 00:24:32,703
and it was pretty cool

553
00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:35,539
because Francesca and I
never would have thought

554
00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:38,242
that this could have been
a possibility for us.

555
00:24:38,276 --> 00:24:40,878
[Francesca]<i> I knew that</i>
<i>we were getting ready to try.</i>

556
00:24:40,912 --> 00:24:43,981
Our goal was, like,
within the next six months.

557
00:24:44,015 --> 00:24:45,082
I mean it was just like destiny

558
00:24:45,116 --> 00:24:46,684
that this was just frozen

559
00:24:46,718 --> 00:24:48,085
just waiting for me to mature...

560
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,386
- Grow up?
- ...and get old enough

561
00:24:49,421 --> 00:24:52,556
and grow up to be able
to use them.

562
00:24:52,591 --> 00:24:53,591
[Brandy] This is the vial.

563
00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:56,260
This is the 5114 vial.

564
00:24:56,294 --> 00:24:59,497
This is the sperm
that come in here

565
00:24:59,531 --> 00:25:00,998
- that we used get...
- Is this actually 5114?

566
00:25:01,032 --> 00:25:02,233
...pregnant. Yeah.

567
00:25:03,935 --> 00:25:05,736
- That's pretty small, huh?
- It's...

568
00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:07,438
they're still stuff in there?

569
00:25:07,472 --> 00:25:08,906
[Brandy] Probably.

570
00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:10,774
Besides the...

571
00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:11,876
yellow thing?

572
00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:13,210
[Brandy] I wouldn't open it.

573
00:25:13,245 --> 00:25:15,446
I'm not going to.

574
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,882
[Danny]<i> It's crazy to think</i>
<i>that I was like</i>

575
00:25:17,916 --> 00:25:20,251
<i>once in a tiny little
container like this</i>

576
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:22,586
being shipped off to New Mexico

577
00:25:22,621 --> 00:25:24,221
and that I came in

578
00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:26,323
this just little tiny container.

579
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:27,558
It was just neat thinking like

580
00:25:27,592 --> 00:25:28,492
that could be your brother

581
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,394
and, or sister in there.

582
00:25:30,428 --> 00:25:33,163
Just this little thing could
change your whole future.

583
00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:35,232
It's pretty crazy.

584
00:25:35,267 --> 00:25:36,767
I'm really nervous for tomorrow

585
00:25:36,801 --> 00:25:40,204
when we find out if my mom
is pregnant or not.

586
00:25:40,238 --> 00:25:42,540
It would be definitely cool
if she is,

587
00:25:42,574 --> 00:25:43,874
to have another half-sibling

588
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:45,743
and it'll be cool

589
00:25:45,777 --> 00:25:48,045
to have another addition
to my family.

590
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:51,015
[dramatic music playing]

591
00:25:57,188 --> 00:26:00,791
[Brandy]<i> I'm excited</i>
<i>but I'm pretty nervous.</i>

592
00:26:00,825 --> 00:26:02,560
This could be like...

593
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:06,897
a new life for us

594
00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:11,402
with a baby
or keep trying, so...

595
00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:14,705
I'm just a little nervous...

596
00:26:16,675 --> 00:26:18,509
excited.

597
00:26:18,543 --> 00:26:21,612
I can't wait to see
what it shows.

598
00:26:21,646 --> 00:26:22,880
But I'm nervous.

599
00:26:24,983 --> 00:26:28,185
Fran, do you want to use
the digital or the other one?

600
00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:33,190
Yeah.

601
00:26:33,224 --> 00:26:34,992
- Here we go.
- Here we go.

602
00:26:35,026 --> 00:26:37,928
[dramatic music playing]

603
00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:04,154
[indistinct]

604
00:27:08,393 --> 00:27:10,427
We've been waiting
for a long time.

605
00:27:14,933 --> 00:27:17,001
Maybe this test is a dud.

606
00:27:17,035 --> 00:27:18,702
Yeah.

607
00:27:18,737 --> 00:27:20,404
[Brandy] It's on a timer
right now

608
00:27:20,438 --> 00:27:22,072
- and it'll tell us...
- [Francesca] I think it says

609
00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:23,941
three minutes, so.

610
00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:26,443
You're so shaky.

611
00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:28,045
[Brandy] I know.

612
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,447
A little more pressure
this time than the last time.

613
00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:36,787
[dramatic music playing]

614
00:27:41,926 --> 00:27:44,161
[Francesca crying]

615
00:27:53,271 --> 00:27:54,738
Next time.

616
00:27:57,575 --> 00:27:58,876
I love you.

617
00:27:58,910 --> 00:27:59,777
I love you, too.

618
00:27:59,811 --> 00:28:01,612
I'm proud of you.

619
00:28:01,646 --> 00:28:04,548
[dramatic music playing]

620
00:28:10,288 --> 00:28:11,655
It's a new journey
for us, though,

621
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,424
because you've never had
to keep trying.

622
00:28:13,458 --> 00:28:14,825
I know.

623
00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:16,126
I don't know
what this feels like.

624
00:28:16,161 --> 00:28:17,461
The last time it was positive

625
00:28:17,495 --> 00:28:19,830
the first try.

626
00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:21,565
It's okay.

627
00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:24,501
[dramatic music playing]

628
00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:42,286
[Lorie]<i> So we're in Provo, Utah.</i>

629
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,288
I'm here for a parent conference

630
00:28:44,322 --> 00:28:48,325
at Nathan's new school.

631
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,361
He's been here
for five months today.

632
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,030
And it's a...

633
00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,133
therapeutic boarding school,

634
00:28:56,167 --> 00:28:58,235
is where he's at now.

635
00:28:58,269 --> 00:28:59,837
And he...

636
00:28:59,871 --> 00:29:02,239
he was having some struggles
in his school in Denver.

637
00:29:02,273 --> 00:29:04,575
And at the end
of the first semester

638
00:29:04,609 --> 00:29:06,477
of ninth grade,

639
00:29:06,511 --> 00:29:11,215
he didn't pass
many of his classes.

640
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:14,218
<i>There were relationship
issues at home</i>

641
00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:18,255
<i>and some behaviors
that were concerning.</i>

642
00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:21,091
He didn't wanna go to therapy.

643
00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:22,860
And he was past the point

644
00:29:22,894 --> 00:29:24,528
where I could just pick him up
and put him in the car

645
00:29:24,562 --> 00:29:25,896
and take him places.

646
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:27,898
So when I decided
to send him away,

647
00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:29,566
I could either let him know

648
00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:31,668
what was going to be coming,

649
00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:36,807
or they show up at your door
at 3:00 AM

650
00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:40,511
and wake your child up
and take them.

651
00:29:40,545 --> 00:29:43,847
And I was afraid if I told him

652
00:29:43,882 --> 00:29:46,316
what would be coming,
that he would run away,

653
00:29:46,351 --> 00:29:48,352
and I didn't want him
out on the streets,

654
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:50,554
I didn't want him, you know,

655
00:29:50,588 --> 00:29:52,489
to disappear.

656
00:29:52,524 --> 00:29:54,158
So, I chose the path

657
00:29:54,192 --> 00:29:57,895
of having them come at 3:00 AM.

658
00:29:57,929 --> 00:29:59,930
It was the hardest thing
I ever did.

659
00:30:03,334 --> 00:30:05,335
And he was angry.

660
00:30:07,906 --> 00:30:10,307
Well, one day, like,
kinda early in the morning,

661
00:30:10,341 --> 00:30:12,543
two guys just like showed up
in my room

662
00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:14,244
and didn't really explain,

663
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:15,512
like, what they were doing,

664
00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:17,581
but they just kind of said like,

665
00:30:17,615 --> 00:30:19,082
"Either you could just come
with us to

666
00:30:19,117 --> 00:30:21,418
the airport or, like,
we could handcuff you

667
00:30:21,452 --> 00:30:24,221
and, like, put you in the car
and take you to the airport."

668
00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:26,690
So then I just went with them.

669
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:28,859
<i>When they woke me up,
I saw her in my room</i>

670
00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:30,227
<i>but she didn't really
talk to me,</i>

671
00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:32,262
<i>she just said,
"I love you, really.</i>

672
00:30:32,297 --> 00:30:34,998
<i>I'm sorry," or something,
and just walked out.</i>

673
00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:37,000
I guess when I got here,
I was pretty confused

674
00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:39,469
because I didn't really,
like, know how things worked.

675
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,738
And then also angry at my mom

676
00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:45,142
because I felt like betrayed.

677
00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:48,045
Being an only parent was...

678
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,813
in hindsight now, it's...

679
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:52,716
It was not as easy
as I thought it would be.

680
00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:54,251
You don't have the checks
and balances,

681
00:30:54,285 --> 00:30:57,020
you don't have someone there
to say,

682
00:30:57,055 --> 00:30:58,388
you know,
"Is that the way you wanted

683
00:30:58,423 --> 00:30:59,756
to handle that situation?"

684
00:30:59,791 --> 00:31:02,025
It's just you and your kid,
you know?

685
00:31:04,329 --> 00:31:07,464
And so I was...
I was a little controlling,

686
00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:09,366
I was critical,

687
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,202
<i>and I think that it was hard</i>

688
00:31:12,237 --> 00:31:14,571
<i>not having anyone else.</i>

689
00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:17,074
Like, not knowing my dad
hasn't really...

690
00:31:17,108 --> 00:31:18,876
I don't think it's like
caused any problems

691
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:21,278
between me and my mom,

692
00:31:21,312 --> 00:31:23,780
even though she thinks that
as, like,

693
00:31:23,815 --> 00:31:25,883
when I'm angry with her,
she'll ask me, like,

694
00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:28,752
is it because you, like,
don't know your dad?

695
00:31:28,786 --> 00:31:31,455
When she asked me that,
I just tell her, like,

696
00:31:31,489 --> 00:31:33,457
it's not true
because it really isn't.

697
00:31:33,491 --> 00:31:36,360
I don't really care.

698
00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:37,494
[Lorie] You know,
what I'm hoping

699
00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:39,663
is that we can fix

700
00:31:39,697 --> 00:31:42,065
what has gone wrong

701
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:45,302
and move on and enjoy each other

702
00:31:45,336 --> 00:31:49,206
for, you know, from here on out.

703
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,241
[indistinct chatter]

704
00:31:56,514 --> 00:31:58,916
[Nathan]<i> Heritage wanted</i>
<i>to bring all the parents</i>

705
00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:00,651
<i>and the kids
over to a ropes course</i>

706
00:32:00,685 --> 00:32:03,387
<i>so that families going
can, like,</i>

707
00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:06,957
<i>help build trust and work
on their relationship.</i>

708
00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:08,725
I don't know, I don't think
you can really, like,

709
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,928
fix a relationship
with a ropes course.

710
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:14,398
[Lorie] Holy smokes.

711
00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:17,634
[laughs]

712
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:19,369
Oh, my God.

713
00:32:19,404 --> 00:32:22,039
[dramatic music playing]

714
00:32:22,073 --> 00:32:23,941
I'm only gonna get,
like, two steps.

715
00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:26,176
[laughs]

716
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:27,644
- I can't lift.
- Why?

717
00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:29,513
Because it's hard to lift
this weight up.

718
00:32:29,547 --> 00:32:31,181
- You think it's easy?
- [indistinct]

719
00:32:31,215 --> 00:32:34,718
[Lorie] I weigh about
as much as a car.

720
00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:36,553
<i>I am planning on pushing myself</i>

721
00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:37,988
<i>out of my comfort zone.</i>

722
00:32:38,022 --> 00:32:39,723
<i>I think it's important
for Nathan</i>

723
00:32:39,757 --> 00:32:43,193
<i>to see how important
this is to me.</i>

724
00:32:43,227 --> 00:32:45,395
And if I bug out and say,

725
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:47,397
"I don't wanna do it,"

726
00:32:47,432 --> 00:32:49,933
what message is that sending
to him, you know?

727
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,202
That he's not worth me

728
00:32:52,236 --> 00:32:54,504
getting a little uncomfortable.

729
00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:58,709
So I'm terrified

730
00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:01,878
but I'm gonna go
a little bit farther

731
00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:04,781
than I thought I could go.

732
00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:07,150
- [woman] Okay. I just want...
- [man] Yeah. Me, too.

733
00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:11,054
- [woman] Did you grab it?
- [woman] Yeah.

734
00:33:11,089 --> 00:33:12,723
[man] It'll suspend you.

735
00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:14,658
It'll suspend you like a bridge.

736
00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,693
[man] There you go. Yes.
Way to go.

737
00:33:16,728 --> 00:33:18,261
Good job.

738
00:33:18,296 --> 00:33:21,231
[indistinct chatter]

739
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:27,270
[man] You have the strength
in the middle.

740
00:33:27,305 --> 00:33:28,905
Strength's in the middle.

741
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,008
[indistinct chatter]

742
00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:33,110
[Nathan] Push on me.
Push on my arms.

743
00:33:34,545 --> 00:33:36,113
Oh.

744
00:33:36,147 --> 00:33:37,914
- [woman] We got her.
- [woman] We got her.

745
00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:40,017
- [man] Oh. Good job.
- [woman] Okay.

746
00:33:40,051 --> 00:33:42,619
Good job. Look it up.

747
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:43,920
[Lorie] Okay. He's good.

748
00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:46,023
He's too fast.

749
00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:47,124
[woman] Great.

750
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,594
[woman] Good job.

751
00:33:50,628 --> 00:33:53,897
[Lorie] Oh, good try.

752
00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:55,766
- [man] Good job.
- [Lorie] Awesome.

753
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,900
[Nathan] I missed.

754
00:33:56,934 --> 00:33:59,870
[dramatic music playing]

755
00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:05,075
Oh, my God. I'm doing this.

756
00:34:05,109 --> 00:34:07,277
Okay. Well, we'll see
how far I get.

757
00:34:07,311 --> 00:34:08,445
[laughs]

758
00:34:08,479 --> 00:34:09,579
Are you gonna go upside down?

759
00:34:09,614 --> 00:34:11,448
Yeah, right.

760
00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:13,216
Yeah, that's my style.

761
00:34:14,986 --> 00:34:17,087
Shit.

762
00:34:17,121 --> 00:34:19,456
[woman] Keep your eyes
on your goal.

763
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:20,824
Climbing.

764
00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:24,494
Push up good with your left leg.

765
00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:31,334
Push with that left leg
with everything you got.

766
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:32,903
[woman] Yeah, push your leg.

767
00:34:32,937 --> 00:34:35,939
[Lorie panting]

768
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:37,774
[Lorie] I think I'm stuck.

769
00:34:39,444 --> 00:34:40,944
I can't...

770
00:34:40,978 --> 00:34:42,512
- Bring your right foot up.
- [woman] It's okay.

771
00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:44,281
- Shit.
- [woman] Nathan,

772
00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:45,449
make her hear your voice.

773
00:34:45,483 --> 00:34:47,918
"Mom, try one more step."

774
00:34:47,952 --> 00:34:49,920
[Nathan] Mom, before you
give up, try to...

775
00:34:49,954 --> 00:34:51,822
- There you go.
- [woman] Go. Go.

776
00:34:51,856 --> 00:34:53,190
[woman] She's gonna hear
your voice

777
00:34:53,224 --> 00:34:54,958
- over anybody else's.
- [Lorie gasping]

778
00:34:54,992 --> 00:34:56,760
[woman] Don't look go down,
you can take one more step.

779
00:34:56,794 --> 00:34:58,795
- [man] Done.
- [Lorie] I'm done.

780
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,899
[man] Grab the rope.

781
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,234
- Put your weight back.
- [Lorie gasping]

782
00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:05,669
[woman] There you go,
there you go,

783
00:35:05,703 --> 00:35:07,604
- there you go.
- You're fine, you're fine.

784
00:35:10,374 --> 00:35:11,508
There you go.

785
00:35:13,244 --> 00:35:14,644
[man] Hey, good job for trying.

786
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,513
[woman] Okay. Your legs
are gonna be wobbly.

787
00:35:16,547 --> 00:35:18,415
Your legs are gonna be wobbly
so just sit right down.

788
00:35:20,551 --> 00:35:22,519
Okay, Lorie, you are awesome.

789
00:35:22,553 --> 00:35:24,187
- [man] Good job trying.
- [woman] Really good job.

790
00:35:24,222 --> 00:35:25,689
- [man] Great job.
- You're gonna wanna find

791
00:35:25,723 --> 00:35:27,390
somewhere just to sit
and kinda shake it out

792
00:35:27,425 --> 00:35:29,159
- a little bit.
- Okay.

793
00:35:29,193 --> 00:35:30,560
- Yeah, I don't know... Okay.
- Okay?

794
00:35:30,595 --> 00:35:32,062
Did you hear Nathan
talking to you?

795
00:35:32,096 --> 00:35:33,763
No, I didn't hear anything.

796
00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:35,332
[woman] I thought if you were
gonna hear anyone,

797
00:35:35,366 --> 00:35:36,900
you would hear him over us.

798
00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:38,635
- Good job.
- Good try.

799
00:35:38,669 --> 00:35:39,836
[man] Are you tight?

800
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,708
Oh, that was scary.

801
00:35:44,742 --> 00:35:46,910
Super, super intimidating, huh?

802
00:35:46,944 --> 00:35:48,645
Really, really amazing.

803
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:50,514
I don't know if you realize
how far you were,

804
00:35:50,548 --> 00:35:52,516
but you were halfway
up that pole.

805
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:53,717
- [man] Yeah.
- Halfway up the pole.

806
00:35:53,751 --> 00:35:54,918
You pushed yourself. Good job.

807
00:35:54,952 --> 00:35:56,153
You did.

808
00:35:56,187 --> 00:35:57,254
And you took the one more step

809
00:35:57,288 --> 00:35:58,599
even when you didn't want to.

810
00:35:58,623 --> 00:36:00,056
- Yeah.
- [woman] We're good.

811
00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:01,057
[man] We're good.

812
00:36:01,092 --> 00:36:03,059
[cheerful music playing]

813
00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:04,427
[Nathan] <i>I didn't really, like,</i>

814
00:36:04,462 --> 00:36:06,062
<i>have any set goals coming here,</i>

815
00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:08,064
<i>but I know, like,
I was gonna try</i>

816
00:36:08,099 --> 00:36:11,468
<i>to do my best on all
the courses or activities.</i>

817
00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:13,770
<i>And I think I did that.</i>

818
00:36:13,804 --> 00:36:16,740
[cheerful music playing]

819
00:36:18,609 --> 00:36:19,943
[Lorie]<i> I was happy</i>
<i>with the experience.</i>

820
00:36:19,977 --> 00:36:21,311
<i>It gave me a little confidence</i>

821
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:22,712
<i>that I could something</i>

822
00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:24,614
<i>that I was terrified of doing.</i>

823
00:36:24,649 --> 00:36:26,783
<i>I took one step
more than I thought I could.</i>

824
00:36:26,817 --> 00:36:28,919
<i>So I was happy with that.</i>

825
00:36:28,953 --> 00:36:30,820
I think there was,
like, one course

826
00:36:30,855 --> 00:36:33,089
that helped me and my mom,

827
00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:36,159
like, kinda like build
a little bit more trust.

828
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,494
- I don't know what to call it.
- The wires?

829
00:36:37,528 --> 00:36:38,962
- The two wires.
- Yeah.

830
00:36:38,996 --> 00:36:42,032
The wires where you have
to support each other.

831
00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:44,968
He approached every obstacle

832
00:36:45,002 --> 00:36:47,971
with such confidence and...

833
00:36:48,005 --> 00:36:49,573
But I didn't see you
back down from anything.

834
00:36:49,607 --> 00:36:51,608
You didn't...
you didn't walk away,

835
00:36:51,642 --> 00:36:52,809
you didn't give up.

836
00:36:52,843 --> 00:36:55,445
You tried your hardest,
you know?

837
00:36:55,479 --> 00:36:57,314
And that's all I can ask.

838
00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:02,185
You should do your best.

839
00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:06,656
And it made me really proud.

840
00:37:08,426 --> 00:37:11,361
[dramatic music playing]

841
00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:17,867
[Nancy] You have to see.

842
00:37:20,838 --> 00:37:22,639
These are heavier
than you think they'd be.

843
00:37:22,673 --> 00:37:23,940
- [Hannah] Are they?
- Yeah.

844
00:37:23,975 --> 00:37:25,475
- [Hannah] Are those snails?
- Yeah.

845
00:37:25,509 --> 00:37:29,479
[dramatic music playing]

846
00:37:29,513 --> 00:37:32,148
[Nancy]<i> I have two kids</i>
<i>from donor 5114.</i>

847
00:37:32,183 --> 00:37:34,517
Johnny who will be 15
in a few weeks

848
00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:37,053
and Hannah who's 12 and a half.

849
00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:39,990
<i>And I think our journey
to joining up</i>

850
00:37:40,024 --> 00:37:41,491
<i>with the other kids</i>

851
00:37:41,525 --> 00:37:43,293
<i>has been a little bit different.</i>

852
00:37:43,327 --> 00:37:45,729
They just haven't really seemed

853
00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:47,964
to feel the need and the pull

854
00:37:47,999 --> 00:37:50,467
that some of the other kids
do to get together

855
00:37:50,501 --> 00:37:51,935
and get to know the others

856
00:37:51,969 --> 00:37:55,272
and I've been wanting
to follow them

857
00:37:55,306 --> 00:37:57,507
and let their wisdom and comfort

858
00:37:57,541 --> 00:37:59,109
sort of guide the journey.

859
00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:01,111
[dramatic music playing]

860
00:38:01,145 --> 00:38:04,014
[Hannah]<i> I haven't always</i>
<i>wanted to meet my siblings</i>

861
00:38:04,048 --> 00:38:06,016
<i>and I was really nervous.</i>

862
00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:07,584
The biggest surprise

863
00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:10,287
is not what anybody's like
or what they look like

864
00:38:10,321 --> 00:38:12,022
<i>because I've seen pictures
of all of them.</i>

865
00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:14,691
<i>It's really
that I keep forgetting</i>

866
00:38:14,725 --> 00:38:16,259
<i>that I'm related to them</i>

867
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,862
<i>and then I'll just...
It'll just hit me</i>

868
00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:20,263
and I'll remember it
and I'm like,

869
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:22,332
"Wait, these people
are like my family.

870
00:38:22,366 --> 00:38:25,235
And it's just kind of cool
and strange

871
00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:27,404
at the same time."

872
00:38:27,438 --> 00:38:30,907
[Elisa]<i> When we drove up</i>
<i>to have this mini reunion,</i>

873
00:38:30,941 --> 00:38:33,209
<i>I was extremely nervous.</i>

874
00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:35,111
I had worked
for three quarters of the day

875
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:36,913
at my job and I...

876
00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:38,682
When walked in my office
that morning,

877
00:38:38,716 --> 00:38:40,016
I told my coworkers,

878
00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:41,551
"I'm on another planet."

879
00:38:41,585 --> 00:38:45,355
<i>And I just had
this crazy energy in me</i>

880
00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:49,025
ever since we got in the car
to drive up here.

881
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:50,527
[Lily]<i> I used to be</i>
<i>very nervous, like,</i>

882
00:38:50,594 --> 00:38:52,395
<i>I was about to throw up
when I was about</i>

883
00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:53,697
<i>to meet my siblings</i>

884
00:38:53,731 --> 00:38:54,964
because it really does matter.

885
00:38:54,999 --> 00:38:56,666
Like, you're meeting...
It's one thing

886
00:38:56,701 --> 00:38:58,401
where you're just meeting
someone for the first time,

887
00:38:58,436 --> 00:39:00,904
but it's another
being related to them.

888
00:39:00,938 --> 00:39:03,306
And having this huge, like,
biological connection,

889
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,242
like, you have no idea
how that's gonna turn out.

890
00:39:06,277 --> 00:39:09,279
[rain pattering]

891
00:39:09,313 --> 00:39:11,748
[Lily] And you have
a huge family.

892
00:39:11,782 --> 00:39:13,450
- Is it a crazy family?
- Well, from what I've heard,

893
00:39:13,484 --> 00:39:15,218
you have a huge family, too.

894
00:39:16,887 --> 00:39:18,121
- One person.
- She doesn't even

895
00:39:18,155 --> 00:39:20,423
understand the joke.

896
00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:21,791
How can I work with this?

897
00:39:21,826 --> 00:39:23,693
[laughs] Okay. Okay.

898
00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:25,095
Do you mean this family?

899
00:39:25,129 --> 00:39:27,197
Yeah, this is part
of your family too.

900
00:39:27,231 --> 00:39:29,099
Got you.

901
00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:30,767
[Neylan]<i> I think meeting</i>
<i>your siblings</i>

902
00:39:30,801 --> 00:39:32,836
<i>and how comfortable
you feel around them</i>

903
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,437
<i>kind of depends on their age</i>

904
00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:36,239
because if they're older,
you're gonna be like,

905
00:39:36,273 --> 00:39:38,241
"Well, are they gonna think
I'm took kiddish?

906
00:39:38,275 --> 00:39:40,643
Are they gonna get annoyed
by me and stuff?"

907
00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:42,412
But then if they're younger,
you're like,

908
00:39:42,446 --> 00:39:44,180
<i>"Am I gonna get along with them?"</i>

909
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,082
<i>Are they gonna like stuff
that I've grown out of?</i>

910
00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:48,485
<i>"Or are we gonna get
along better?"</i>

911
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,820
[Sadie]<i> It's kinda hard</i>
<i>that there's so many</i>

912
00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:52,756
because I don't know,
it just seems not as special

913
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:54,457
if there are, like, as many...

914
00:39:54,492 --> 00:39:56,926
Like, the... There's a huge
quantity of siblings

915
00:39:56,961 --> 00:39:59,129
and it's not as special
as if there's a few.

916
00:39:59,163 --> 00:40:00,130
- But...
- And it's kind of hard

917
00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:02,031
because, like,

918
00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:04,434
there's always gonna be
someone that gets left out

919
00:40:04,468 --> 00:40:06,002
or can't come to a reunion

920
00:40:06,036 --> 00:40:08,438
and that their feelings
are gonna be hurt sometimes

921
00:40:08,472 --> 00:40:10,240
but you can't please everyone

922
00:40:10,274 --> 00:40:11,841
with 21 siblings.

923
00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:13,343
[rain pattering]

924
00:40:13,377 --> 00:40:15,812
[Nancy] I think there
has to be some quality

925
00:40:15,846 --> 00:40:17,814
in all of us that we,

926
00:40:17,848 --> 00:40:20,417
out of thousands
of potential donors,

927
00:40:20,451 --> 00:40:22,685
we zeroed in on that one.

928
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,789
But I have absolutely
no interest whatsoever

929
00:40:25,823 --> 00:40:27,624
in knowing who he is.

930
00:40:27,658 --> 00:40:30,527
What we called him when Lily
was growing up was the seed.

931
00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:31,928
- [laughter]
- Like, I mean,

932
00:40:31,962 --> 00:40:33,630
because he's not...

933
00:40:33,664 --> 00:40:36,733
I don't see him
as other than the genes,

934
00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:40,236
I don't see him
as being at all related

935
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:41,438
to these kids.

936
00:40:41,472 --> 00:40:43,106
I mean, he didn't raise them,

937
00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:44,574
he's not their father,

938
00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:46,176
he's a seed.

939
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:48,678
I mean, maybe it's because
Lily has a father.

940
00:40:48,712 --> 00:40:50,246
You know, when she was seven,

941
00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:52,682
she was adopted by my husband.

942
00:40:52,716 --> 00:40:54,017
- Mmm-hmm.
- [Linette] I don't have

943
00:40:54,051 --> 00:40:55,785
any emotional connection to him

944
00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:58,488
and it's hard for me to...

945
00:40:58,522 --> 00:41:00,824
I mean, because I do have
an emotional connection

946
00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:03,059
with all of you.

947
00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:05,762
And it's hard for me,

948
00:41:05,796 --> 00:41:07,997
like, when somebody had asked

949
00:41:08,032 --> 00:41:11,968
or, you know, where's your dad?

950
00:41:12,002 --> 00:41:13,703
I don't have a dad.

951
00:41:13,737 --> 00:41:16,840
She made up a story about him
being eaten by sharks

952
00:41:16,874 --> 00:41:19,476
because she got tired
of people asking,

953
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:21,478
you know, where's your...
where's your dad?

954
00:41:21,512 --> 00:41:23,146
It's very complicated

955
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:25,682
but, you know,

956
00:41:25,716 --> 00:41:28,151
their relationship
with each other

957
00:41:28,185 --> 00:41:32,055
is unique.

958
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:35,058
But their relationship with him

959
00:41:35,092 --> 00:41:37,527
will be a whole
different ball game.

960
00:41:37,561 --> 00:41:39,262
Worst that could happen
is he would completely

961
00:41:39,296 --> 00:41:40,897
- reject them.
- [woman] And that would have

962
00:41:40,931 --> 00:41:42,832
a very negative effect on them.

963
00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:44,334
But then on the other hand,
I also think, well,

964
00:41:44,368 --> 00:41:47,136
maybe I'm overestimating

965
00:41:47,171 --> 00:41:48,238
how much that would affect them

966
00:41:48,272 --> 00:41:50,907
because when I think about,

967
00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:53,977
you know, a father figure
or connection to men

968
00:41:54,011 --> 00:41:56,579
who, you know,
I'm biologically connected,

969
00:41:56,614 --> 00:41:58,348
too, if he had rejected me,

970
00:41:58,382 --> 00:42:01,251
that would have been horrible,
but he was my dad.

971
00:42:01,285 --> 00:42:03,953
[Lisa] For me, that isn't
something that says,

972
00:42:03,988 --> 00:42:05,388
"Well, don't go there

973
00:42:05,422 --> 00:42:07,790
because you might get hurt
or rejected."

974
00:42:07,825 --> 00:42:09,926
- Mmm-hmm.
- That means

975
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,661
- thought needs to go into it.
- Mmm-hmm. Mmm-hmm.

976
00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:14,230
But that's like
any relationship, job...

977
00:42:14,265 --> 00:42:15,732
Anything has risks.

978
00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:17,834
[dramatic music playing]

979
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:27,410
[Nancy S]<i> I guess</i>
<i>one of the differences</i>

980
00:42:27,444 --> 00:42:29,112
<i>between the kids and the moms</i>

981
00:42:29,146 --> 00:42:31,114
<i>is that, as the kids grow older,</i>

982
00:42:31,148 --> 00:42:33,249
the fact
that they're donor kids,

983
00:42:33,284 --> 00:42:36,452
for me, fades, it has faded.

984
00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:37,987
And for them,
it doesn't fade, in fact,

985
00:42:38,022 --> 00:42:39,889
I think, may...
As they get older

986
00:42:39,924 --> 00:42:41,157
and wanna know more
about who they are,

987
00:42:41,191 --> 00:42:42,492
it gets stronger for them.

988
00:42:42,526 --> 00:42:44,160
<i>And I just worry</i>

989
00:42:44,194 --> 00:42:45,795
<i>that they're gonna get caught up</i>

990
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:49,132
<i>in real strong
emotional entanglements</i>

991
00:42:49,166 --> 00:42:51,534
that may be difficult for them

992
00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:54,337
to sort out down the road.

993
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:00,543
[Alexis]<i> The exterior,</i>
<i>even though it seems, like,</i>

994
00:43:00,578 --> 00:43:03,046
<i>it's really fun and it's
a real good experience</i>

995
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,882
being in this,
like, donor situation,

996
00:43:05,916 --> 00:43:08,451
there are just, like,
a lot of aspects

997
00:43:08,485 --> 00:43:10,186
about the donor situation

998
00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:12,956
that are painful,

999
00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:15,491
that even little things
that just add up,

1000
00:43:15,526 --> 00:43:18,962
like, there's this whole
other side of your family

1001
00:43:18,996 --> 00:43:20,830
that you know nothing about.

1002
00:43:20,864 --> 00:43:24,934
And just having
20 other half-siblings

1003
00:43:24,969 --> 00:43:26,869
is a lot to take in,

1004
00:43:26,904 --> 00:43:28,438
like, you tell people
and they say,

1005
00:43:28,472 --> 00:43:30,440
"Oh, that's so cool.
Do you know them all?"

1006
00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:33,009
But it's impossible
to know them all

1007
00:43:33,043 --> 00:43:36,479
and it's hard to know
that you have to share

1008
00:43:36,513 --> 00:43:40,883
the donor with all
of these other people.

1009
00:43:40,918 --> 00:43:43,620
And it's just...
It's not competition

1010
00:43:43,654 --> 00:43:46,956
but it's hard to explain.

1011
00:43:46,991 --> 00:43:50,827
[dramatic music playing]

1012
00:43:50,861 --> 00:43:53,763
[indistinct chatter]

1013
00:43:56,734 --> 00:43:59,669
[dramatic music playing]

1014
00:44:42,046 --> 00:44:43,513
- [woman] Here you go.
- Oh, yeah.

1015
00:44:43,547 --> 00:44:46,282
[woman] Good job, honey.

1016
00:44:46,316 --> 00:44:48,117
Push again for me.
Push, push, push, push, push.

1017
00:44:48,152 --> 00:44:49,452
Yeah. There we go. Yeah.

1018
00:44:49,486 --> 00:44:52,188
Perfect. Okay. Okay.

1019
00:44:52,222 --> 00:44:53,356
Push again. Okay.

1020
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:54,590
Take your baby. Take your baby.

1021
00:44:54,625 --> 00:44:56,459
Take your child and grab him.

1022
00:44:56,493 --> 00:44:58,061
Hey, buddy.

1023
00:44:58,095 --> 00:45:00,596
[woman] There you go.
You got him.

1024
00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:02,098
- All right.
- Baby is disconnected.

1025
00:45:02,132 --> 00:45:03,833
If you wanna go get some O2.

1026
00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:05,301
Okay.

1027
00:45:05,335 --> 00:45:07,537
- [baby crying]
- There you go. There we go.

1028
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:14,510
Congratulations.

1029
00:45:17,681 --> 00:45:18,948
[Brandy]<i> So we had</i>
<i>one vial left,</i>

1030
00:45:18,982 --> 00:45:20,316
<i>we just had one more shot</i>

1031
00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:21,451
<i>to be able to get pregnant</i>

1032
00:45:21,485 --> 00:45:23,152
<i>and so we're just grateful</i>

1033
00:45:23,187 --> 00:45:25,788
<i>that the second time,
obviously, worked.</i>

1034
00:45:25,823 --> 00:45:27,256
<i>And here he is.</i>

1035
00:45:27,291 --> 00:45:29,492
<i>He's just a perfect blessing.</i>

1036
00:45:31,862 --> 00:45:34,163
[Danny]<i> It's really cool</i>
<i>to see them just overwhelmed</i>

1037
00:45:34,198 --> 00:45:36,999
<i>with joy with baby Grayson
coming into the family</i>

1038
00:45:37,034 --> 00:45:39,268
and mama Fran being able
to have a kid

1039
00:45:39,303 --> 00:45:42,739
from 5114 and be able to,
maybe, like,

1040
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:46,075
link together and be more
connected with the others.

1041
00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:48,845
[dramatic music playing]

1042
00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:52,749
[Brandy] Hi, Grayson,
does that feel good?

1043
00:45:52,783 --> 00:45:54,584
[Zeke] It's your mom...

1044
00:45:54,618 --> 00:45:56,419
[Brandy] Look at you
rocking him.

1045
00:45:56,453 --> 00:45:59,522
You're such a good big brother.

1046
00:45:59,556 --> 00:46:02,258
[Zeke]<i> I think having</i>
<i>another brother</i>

1047
00:46:02,292 --> 00:46:04,093
<i>is really cool</i>

1048
00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:06,929
because once he gets older,

1049
00:46:06,964 --> 00:46:10,867
we might all do

1050
00:46:10,901 --> 00:46:15,404
a lot of fun stuff if we're
really close together.

1051
00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:18,374
[dramatic music playing]

1052
00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:23,012
[indistinct] baby.

1053
00:46:23,046 --> 00:46:24,714
[Brandy]<i> So, this is Grayson.</i>

1054
00:46:24,748 --> 00:46:27,717
He's the very last 5114.

1055
00:46:27,751 --> 00:46:30,820
He was born
on the 25th of August

1056
00:46:30,854 --> 00:46:33,022
<i>at 3:47.</i>

1057
00:46:33,056 --> 00:46:36,392
<i>This family that we have
has been primarily</i>

1058
00:46:36,426 --> 00:46:38,394
<i>because of the artificial
insemination</i>

1059
00:46:38,428 --> 00:46:39,896
<i>and this donor.</i>

1060
00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:41,564
<i>And we just wanna let
our kids know</i>

1061
00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:43,199
<i>that we're so blessed</i>

1062
00:46:43,233 --> 00:46:44,534
for each and every one of them

1063
00:46:44,568 --> 00:46:46,369
and that they all mean
so much to us

1064
00:46:46,403 --> 00:46:48,704
and we're not
the perfect parents,

1065
00:46:48,739 --> 00:46:52,074
but we sure enjoy the journey
and being with them

1066
00:46:52,109 --> 00:46:55,845
and trying to learn as we go.

1067
00:46:55,879 --> 00:46:57,914
It kind evens things out
because before,

1068
00:46:57,948 --> 00:46:59,182
as you all know,

1069
00:46:59,216 --> 00:47:01,450
we have two moms
and a little sister.

1070
00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:02,485
And it was just me and Zeke.

1071
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:04,287
So now, it, kinda, evens out

1072
00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:07,590
the estrogen to testosterone
in the house.

1073
00:47:07,624 --> 00:47:09,158
The what?

1074
00:47:09,193 --> 00:47:10,993
[laughs]

1075
00:47:11,028 --> 00:47:12,728
What's that mean?

1076
00:47:12,763 --> 00:47:15,665
[jet ski revving]

1077
00:47:23,907 --> 00:47:27,143
[Nancy C]<i> I was not able</i>
<i>to go to the last reunion.</i>

1078
00:47:27,177 --> 00:47:29,712
<i>And when Alexis came back,</i>

1079
00:47:29,746 --> 00:47:33,449
<i>she was very emotionally
absent with us</i>

1080
00:47:33,483 --> 00:47:37,587
<i>and so we felt
very rejected by her.</i>

1081
00:47:37,621 --> 00:47:40,590
Even from the time I picked
her up at the airport,

1082
00:47:40,624 --> 00:47:43,259
you know, she didn't embrace me,

1083
00:47:43,293 --> 00:47:45,761
she didn't say,
"Hey, it's great to see you,

1084
00:47:45,796 --> 00:47:47,263
I missed you,"

1085
00:47:47,297 --> 00:47:50,099
it was, like,
she didn't wanna be home.

1086
00:47:50,133 --> 00:47:51,734
I think the part of it
is that...

1087
00:47:51,768 --> 00:47:54,136
About the rejection
that my mom and Luke feel

1088
00:47:54,171 --> 00:47:57,039
is that... They feel that,
like, at least to me,

1089
00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:59,275
they're not enough, kind of.

1090
00:47:59,309 --> 00:48:02,511
And, I mean, that's not true,

1091
00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:04,380
but it's also a little true.

1092
00:48:04,414 --> 00:48:07,817
Like I do feel
this thing missing

1093
00:48:07,851 --> 00:48:09,986
and I do, like, for myself

1094
00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:12,488
need to go and fill that.

1095
00:48:14,324 --> 00:48:15,958
So as much as I love them,

1096
00:48:15,993 --> 00:48:18,527
no, they're not enough
in some ways.

1097
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:20,229
And, yeah, that's hurtful and...

1098
00:48:20,264 --> 00:48:23,266
But, yeah, that's true,
so I can't change that.

1099
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:25,801
[Nancy C] You know,
I will say that I want her

1100
00:48:25,836 --> 00:48:28,871
to love her siblings
and I want them to love her

1101
00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:32,842
and I do genuinely feel
that way,

1102
00:48:32,876 --> 00:48:35,811
but I also feel
that our little family

1103
00:48:35,846 --> 00:48:39,615
is uniquely special
because we share

1104
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:41,217
our day-to-day lives together.

1105
00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:43,452
And when, you know,
when we're depressed,

1106
00:48:43,487 --> 00:48:45,221
when we're sick,
we're going through

1107
00:48:45,255 --> 00:48:47,056
all the tough times together.

1108
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:50,526
You can, kind of, juxtapose
that to my siblings,

1109
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,728
like, we don't live together

1110
00:48:52,763 --> 00:48:55,865
and we share this huge problem.

1111
00:48:55,899 --> 00:48:59,502
And we're able to empathize
with one another

1112
00:48:59,536 --> 00:49:02,672
despite the fact
that we live so far away.

1113
00:49:02,706 --> 00:49:07,009
So, that needs to count
for something, too.

1114
00:49:07,044 --> 00:49:08,377
[Nancy] I understand that.

1115
00:49:08,412 --> 00:49:10,579
I think that's a really
valid point,

1116
00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:13,349
is the affinity that you feel

1117
00:49:13,383 --> 00:49:17,019
because you share
this quest, this identity,

1118
00:49:17,054 --> 00:49:19,622
this pursuit that no one else
shares with you,

1119
00:49:19,656 --> 00:49:21,557
I completely get that.

1120
00:49:21,591 --> 00:49:25,394
You know, we can empathize
with the separation

1121
00:49:25,429 --> 00:49:27,096
that you've experienced
from your siblings,

1122
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:29,098
but I'm simply talking about

1123
00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:32,068
the way we feel, I think,
is also very legitimate.

1124
00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:35,338
And I think that you should
show empathy for that as well.

1125
00:49:35,372 --> 00:49:37,673
I never even felt, like, "Ugh,
I don't wanna be with them,"

1126
00:49:37,708 --> 00:49:39,342
I didn't wanna be
with anybody, you know,

1127
00:49:39,376 --> 00:49:42,545
not specifically you,
I just wanted to be by myself.

1128
00:49:42,579 --> 00:49:45,581
So, yeah.

1129
00:49:48,218 --> 00:49:51,220
[dramatic music playing]

1130
00:49:55,092 --> 00:49:56,459
[Alexis]<i> I've known</i>
<i>my whole life</i>

1131
00:49:56,493 --> 00:49:58,194
<i>that I came from a sperm donor.</i>

1132
00:49:58,261 --> 00:50:00,696
<i>I mean, when I was,
like, three years old,</i>

1133
00:50:00,731 --> 00:50:02,932
<i>I didn't know
in the same way I know now,</i>

1134
00:50:02,966 --> 00:50:04,600
<i>but I still knew that
there was something different</i>

1135
00:50:04,634 --> 00:50:06,569
<i>from most other people.</i>

1136
00:50:06,603 --> 00:50:09,005
<i>I always really wanted a dad
and I would always ask my mom</i>

1137
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,007
<i>"Mom, when am I gonna
get a dad?"</i>

1138
00:50:11,041 --> 00:50:13,109
<i>And until, like,
third or fourth grade,</i>

1139
00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:16,112
<i>all I knew was that
I had a donor,</i>

1140
00:50:16,146 --> 00:50:18,180
<i>but I didn't know
anything about him.</i>

1141
00:50:18,215 --> 00:50:21,784
<i>Ever since then, my curiosity
has just grown exponentially.</i>

1142
00:50:21,818 --> 00:50:24,353
<i>And then, in middle school,
I started looking for him.</i>

1143
00:50:24,388 --> 00:50:26,956
<i>And then it just
all led up to here.</i>

1144
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:29,992
[dramatic music playing]

1145
00:50:34,598 --> 00:50:36,332
[Alexis]<i> I guess the first</i>
<i>thing I ever did</i>

1146
00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:37,666
<i>in terms of looking
for the donor</i>

1147
00:50:37,701 --> 00:50:39,535
<i>is I went on ancestry.com.</i>

1148
00:50:39,569 --> 00:50:41,504
I just looked up
people born in 1969

1149
00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:43,305
in Fort Collins, Colorado.

1150
00:50:43,339 --> 00:50:46,108
And I hoped that, like,
somehow I'd find him like that

1151
00:50:46,143 --> 00:50:48,944
and nothing.

1152
00:50:48,979 --> 00:50:52,114
I learned that he was, like,
top 20 in the nation in track.

1153
00:50:52,149 --> 00:50:54,583
I ordered track record books.

1154
00:50:54,618 --> 00:50:56,118
And, of course, as soon
as I got this, I was, like,

1155
00:50:56,153 --> 00:50:57,887
"That's him,"
obviously it isn't.

1156
00:50:57,921 --> 00:51:00,956
And I, like, highlighted
all the ones that say 1969

1157
00:51:00,991 --> 00:51:02,992
and I, like, Googled all of them

1158
00:51:03,026 --> 00:51:05,194
and that was
a fruitless endeavor.

1159
00:51:05,228 --> 00:51:06,929
Just shows you
how huge of a world it is

1160
00:51:06,963 --> 00:51:09,965
and that it is really tough
to find people.

1161
00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:11,801
I just like
keeping stuff like this

1162
00:51:11,835 --> 00:51:14,403
to, kinda, make connections
with him, I don't know,

1163
00:51:14,438 --> 00:51:16,572
but he's probably
in here somewhere.

1164
00:51:16,606 --> 00:51:19,175
So, I've probably read
his name 500 times before,

1165
00:51:19,209 --> 00:51:23,179
but just don't know
which one it is.

1166
00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:25,414
When I first met my dad
or my stepdad,

1167
00:51:25,449 --> 00:51:27,817
whatever you wanna call him,

1168
00:51:27,851 --> 00:51:29,819
I really didn't like him.

1169
00:51:29,853 --> 00:51:32,455
<i>And it never really felt
like he was part of my life,</i>

1170
00:51:32,489 --> 00:51:34,623
<i>even though he lived with me,
he was just that guy</i>

1171
00:51:34,658 --> 00:51:36,992
<i>that lived in my house.</i>

1172
00:51:37,027 --> 00:51:39,195
He's a really critical person.

1173
00:51:39,229 --> 00:51:42,631
<i>He's not very affectionate.</i>

1174
00:51:42,666 --> 00:51:44,300
[Javier]<i> I always criticize</i>

1175
00:51:44,334 --> 00:51:45,935
because that was the way

1176
00:51:45,969 --> 00:51:47,970
that my parents were,
you know, they were all...

1177
00:51:48,004 --> 00:51:49,972
Always trying
to tell me to do...

1178
00:51:50,006 --> 00:51:51,974
Not because they didn't love
me, but, you know, the...

1179
00:51:52,008 --> 00:51:55,978
And I... And in the long-term,
I think it helped me out

1180
00:51:56,012 --> 00:51:59,148
when they were very strict,
you know, they were like,

1181
00:51:59,182 --> 00:52:00,983
"You need to do this,
you need to do that."

1182
00:52:01,017 --> 00:52:03,686
They never said, "Oh, Javier,
you're doing it great," okay?

1183
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,821
I never heard that from my...

1184
00:52:05,856 --> 00:52:08,657
from my... from my dad
or my mom.

1185
00:52:08,692 --> 00:52:10,559
<i>My father was always working</i>

1186
00:52:10,594 --> 00:52:13,696
<i>and when years went by
and I got older</i>

1187
00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:15,264
<i>and I had kids,</i>

1188
00:52:15,298 --> 00:52:18,200
I realized that he never
expressed himself too much,

1189
00:52:18,235 --> 00:52:21,670
but now I know that he really
loved me a lot, so...

1190
00:52:21,705 --> 00:52:24,473
Because I'm repeating
the same story.

1191
00:52:24,508 --> 00:52:27,076
Javier has never upfront
discussed his feelings

1192
00:52:27,110 --> 00:52:32,481
about the donors-sibling
situation with me,

1193
00:52:32,516 --> 00:52:34,917
but I just kind of know
he's supportive of it.

1194
00:52:34,951 --> 00:52:37,219
I'm Catholic
and I'm very religious

1195
00:52:37,254 --> 00:52:41,257
and I don't believe
too much in this situation

1196
00:52:41,291 --> 00:52:47,263
where you maneuver
or manage life, you know.

1197
00:52:47,297 --> 00:52:50,232
<i>But now that Alexis is here,
you know, of course,</i>

1198
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:54,403
<i>she's entitled to all
the love that I can give.</i>

1199
00:52:54,437 --> 00:52:56,038
And it's sad,
of course, I don't know

1200
00:52:56,072 --> 00:53:00,409
what would've happened to me
in that situation,

1201
00:53:00,443 --> 00:53:03,112
you know, because I had
the perfect family.

1202
00:53:03,146 --> 00:53:07,049
I do think having Javier
in my life has...

1203
00:53:07,083 --> 00:53:09,985
propelled me to want to find
my biological father because,

1204
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:11,654
like, even though I love Javier,

1205
00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,255
he was never enough.

1206
00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:15,758
<i>In situations
where it's been really bad</i>

1207
00:53:15,792 --> 00:53:17,493
<i>or bumpy with Javier,</i>

1208
00:53:17,527 --> 00:53:19,595
<i>I've always imagined
what would it be like</i>

1209
00:53:19,629 --> 00:53:21,764
if my real my dad
was there instead or...

1210
00:53:21,798 --> 00:53:25,301
"My real dad."

1211
00:53:25,335 --> 00:53:27,136
Yeah.

1212
00:53:29,773 --> 00:53:31,440
[Lisa]<i> Babe, you wanna get</i>
<i>some of your stuff</i>

1213
00:53:31,474 --> 00:53:33,943
- and start packing?
- [Sadie] Sure.

1214
00:53:33,977 --> 00:53:36,946
[Lisa] We're gonna be there
for four days.

1215
00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:39,481
<i>Sadie and I are packing up
to go to the reunion</i>

1216
00:53:39,516 --> 00:53:41,650
<i>in Breckenridge, Colorado.</i>

1217
00:53:41,685 --> 00:53:43,319
There's gonna be a ton
of people,

1218
00:53:43,353 --> 00:53:45,888
so that's good
and can be overwhelming,

1219
00:53:45,922 --> 00:53:48,324
but we're gonna meet
some new siblings.

1220
00:53:48,358 --> 00:53:50,226
<i>Which is always a good thing,</i>

1221
00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:53,095
<i>I'm glad people are starting
to reach out and come out.</i>

1222
00:53:53,129 --> 00:53:54,964
<i>And we're gonna see
some people we haven't seen</i>

1223
00:53:54,998 --> 00:53:57,466
<i>since the California reunion,</i>

1224
00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:00,035
so we're looking forward
to all of that.

1225
00:54:00,070 --> 00:54:02,605
You have all your cameras
and film?

1226
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:03,672
Chargers?

1227
00:54:03,707 --> 00:54:05,374
[Sadie] I'll get those.

1228
00:54:05,408 --> 00:54:07,176
<i>These time around, I haven't
talked to the siblings</i>

1229
00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:08,811
<i>as much over the year,</i>

1230
00:54:08,845 --> 00:54:10,379
some of the relationships
with the siblings

1231
00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:12,381
have kind of mellowed out
because...

1232
00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:14,383
well, we're just, like,
growing up and getting older.

1233
00:54:14,417 --> 00:54:16,329
<i>And at first, it was
really exciting</i>

1234
00:54:16,353 --> 00:54:17,953
<i>because it was like
a new thing in our life.</i>

1235
00:54:17,988 --> 00:54:19,722
<i>And then after a while,
it kind of becomes like</i>

1236
00:54:19,756 --> 00:54:21,624
<i>a normal thing.</i>

1237
00:54:21,658 --> 00:54:23,826
<i>And there's also so many
siblings, so it's hard to get</i>

1238
00:54:23,860 --> 00:54:26,362
<i>as excited every time
you meet like a new one,</i>

1239
00:54:26,396 --> 00:54:28,364
<i>even though it's always
interesting.</i>

1240
00:54:28,398 --> 00:54:31,166
And also, like, long-distance
relationships are always hard,

1241
00:54:31,201 --> 00:54:33,302
you know, the communication
and everything,

1242
00:54:33,336 --> 00:54:37,172
so I'm not really sure
how it'll be this time around.

1243
00:54:38,541 --> 00:54:41,543
[whimsical music playing]

1244
00:54:50,587 --> 00:54:52,021
[Margot]
<i>Baking a goat cheese, peach,</i>

1245
00:54:52,055 --> 00:54:54,056
caramelized onion, basil tarts.

1246
00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:56,625
Just a little something
to whip up for the family.

1247
00:54:56,660 --> 00:54:59,228
We've got 32 people,

1248
00:54:59,262 --> 00:55:02,765
and everybody has every kind
of eating lifestyles

1249
00:55:02,799 --> 00:55:04,733
and it's just fun.

1250
00:55:07,237 --> 00:55:08,671
[woman] You can have two,
there's more.

1251
00:55:08,705 --> 00:55:10,239
- I'm starving.
- And you can have a napkin

1252
00:55:10,273 --> 00:55:11,373
- if you want.
- Thank you.

1253
00:55:11,408 --> 00:55:13,876
Chelsea, do you want one?

1254
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:15,544
Yes, please.

1255
00:55:15,578 --> 00:55:18,881
[indistinct chatter]

1256
00:55:18,915 --> 00:55:21,250
[laughter]

1257
00:55:21,284 --> 00:55:22,918
[Jack] I wanna ask you
if you remember

1258
00:55:22,952 --> 00:55:24,620
making this decision?

1259
00:55:24,654 --> 00:55:28,691
No. I do not. I don't.

1260
00:55:28,725 --> 00:55:30,893
Here in Breckenridge
for the fourth reunion.

1261
00:55:30,927 --> 00:55:33,696
We have biggest group
of siblings that we ever had.

1262
00:55:33,730 --> 00:55:36,699
There's Zeke, Hannah, Sadie,

1263
00:55:36,733 --> 00:55:39,401
Neylan, Alexis, Mattie,

1264
00:55:39,436 --> 00:55:41,870
Danny, Lily, Nick,

1265
00:55:41,905 --> 00:55:44,940
Johnny, Bradley, me Jack,

1266
00:55:44,974 --> 00:55:47,443
and Grayson.

1267
00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,078
[Johnny]<i> I completely regret</i>

1268
00:55:49,112 --> 00:55:51,880
<i>not coming to
the other reunions already,</i>

1269
00:55:51,915 --> 00:55:53,682
because one of the ways
I kind of cope

1270
00:55:53,717 --> 00:55:55,017
with the whole donor dad thing

1271
00:55:55,051 --> 00:55:57,886
is kind of just
not thinking about it.

1272
00:55:57,921 --> 00:56:00,923
You know, it's kind of hard
to not think about it

1273
00:56:00,957 --> 00:56:04,126
when you're surrounded by,
you know, 13 other kids

1274
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,594
that have the same
donor dad as you.

1275
00:56:05,628 --> 00:56:07,196
How can you not think
about the donor?

1276
00:56:07,230 --> 00:56:08,931
<i>I've constantly been
talking about it,</i>

1277
00:56:08,965 --> 00:56:10,566
<i>ever since I got here,
all we've been talking about</i>

1278
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,067
<i>is like how much we look alike</i>

1279
00:56:12,102 --> 00:56:13,736
<i>and like the donor
and it feels good.</i>

1280
00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:15,971
<i>And I wish I had done it
earlier in my life</i>

1281
00:56:16,005 --> 00:56:19,475
and maybe I wouldn't be...
I wouldn't have had issues,

1282
00:56:19,509 --> 00:56:21,977
like, personal issues if I had
done it earlier in life.

1283
00:56:22,011 --> 00:56:24,313
[indistinct chatter]

1284
00:56:24,347 --> 00:56:26,148
You should get this,
you should get this.

1285
00:56:26,182 --> 00:56:28,517
Come on, look at their noses
bounce right now.

1286
00:56:28,551 --> 00:56:30,686
[Jack]<i> This being</i>
<i>the fourth reunion,</i>

1287
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:32,421
the other three
I just couldn't make it

1288
00:56:32,455 --> 00:56:34,323
or financial stuff.

1289
00:56:34,357 --> 00:56:36,325
I come from a family where...

1290
00:56:36,359 --> 00:56:37,993
flying a plane is a big deal

1291
00:56:38,027 --> 00:56:39,661
and just the fact
that my parents

1292
00:56:39,696 --> 00:56:42,431
were willing to spend
that money and get me out here

1293
00:56:42,465 --> 00:56:44,400
<i>and be able to meet
all these people,</i>

1294
00:56:44,434 --> 00:56:45,934
<i>hit me really hard on the plane.</i>

1295
00:56:45,969 --> 00:56:48,337
<i>I was just like, "Oh, wow."</i>

1296
00:56:48,371 --> 00:56:52,775
It was just all excitement,
and it's still all excitement.

1297
00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:54,176
[Bradley]<i> I've known about</i>
<i>my siblings</i>

1298
00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:56,412
<i>for almost like
two or three years now.</i>

1299
00:56:56,446 --> 00:56:57,813
<i>At first I was a bit nervous</i>

1300
00:56:57,847 --> 00:56:59,515
<i>about like finding out
about them.</i>

1301
00:56:59,549 --> 00:57:01,316
<i>I'm not really
like a people person,</i>

1302
00:57:01,351 --> 00:57:05,220
but here it's a lot easier
to get know like each other

1303
00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:07,756
and I was a lot less nervous
because I can actually, like,

1304
00:57:07,791 --> 00:57:09,992
you know, pinpoint things
that we had in common,

1305
00:57:10,026 --> 00:57:12,161
rather than like talking
on the phone for like a week

1306
00:57:12,195 --> 00:57:13,262
and still being nervous.

1307
00:57:15,432 --> 00:57:18,400
[guitar music playing]

1308
00:57:19,602 --> 00:57:22,604
[indistinct chatter]

1309
00:57:54,204 --> 00:57:55,471
[Alexis]<i> Yesterday,</i>
<i>all the siblings</i>

1310
00:57:55,505 --> 00:57:56,839
<i>slept at the big house.</i>

1311
00:57:56,873 --> 00:57:58,006
[Lily]<i> Yeah. That was awesome.</i>

1312
00:57:58,041 --> 00:57:59,741
Yeah, we stayed up all night.

1313
00:57:59,776 --> 00:58:00,943
Stayed up until 5:00

1314
00:58:00,977 --> 00:58:02,611
and then woke up at like 9:30.

1315
00:58:02,645 --> 00:58:04,980
[Lily] Some others didn't...

1316
00:58:05,014 --> 00:58:07,316
I don't know
who that was, though.

1317
00:58:08,651 --> 00:58:10,452
Also, it's kind of random,

1318
00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:12,788
but don't you guys feel
like you have these mannerisms

1319
00:58:12,822 --> 00:58:14,456
like stuck in the back
of your head, and, like,

1320
00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:15,891
you just don't feel
comfortable doing them

1321
00:58:15,925 --> 00:58:18,293
in, like, real world
or at your school,

1322
00:58:18,328 --> 00:58:19,995
and because you're with
all your siblings,

1323
00:58:20,029 --> 00:58:21,830
- like, let them loose?
- [Alexis] Yeah.

1324
00:58:21,865 --> 00:58:23,265
Like you didn't even know
you had it in you.

1325
00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:24,433
- [Alexis] Yeah.
- [Lily] Yeah.

1326
00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:26,635
[Alexis] No, that's true.

1327
00:58:26,669 --> 00:58:28,070
I'm really... I'm really shy
at school.

1328
00:58:28,104 --> 00:58:29,438
A spaz.

1329
00:58:29,472 --> 00:58:32,074
Last reunion,
I walked into the room

1330
00:58:32,108 --> 00:58:34,243
and I had really nothing
to compare it to,

1331
00:58:34,277 --> 00:58:36,879
so I wasn't... Honestly,
I wasn't disappointed.

1332
00:58:36,913 --> 00:58:39,715
But now that I have
something compare it to,

1333
00:58:39,749 --> 00:58:44,720
this reunion, it's like, wow.
That it's truly different.

1334
00:58:44,754 --> 00:58:47,289
<i>This reunion
has really blown my mind</i>

1335
00:58:47,323 --> 00:58:48,957
<i>and just the things we do</i>

1336
00:58:48,992 --> 00:58:52,294
<i>and how fast
we warmed up to each other</i>

1337
00:58:52,328 --> 00:58:53,996
is actually incredible.

1338
00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:55,898
I've never seen
anything like it.

1339
00:58:55,932 --> 00:58:58,634
<i>And I think the reason that
we connect so much quicker</i>

1340
00:58:58,668 --> 00:59:00,302
<i>is because...</i>

1341
00:59:00,336 --> 00:59:02,271
<i>one, because obviously
we share the same father,</i>

1342
00:59:02,305 --> 00:59:04,206
<i>but I think it's so much
more than that.</i>

1343
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,974
We're talking about...
Yesterday about this

1344
00:59:06,009 --> 00:59:09,144
and it's kind of just
that we've been brought up

1345
00:59:09,178 --> 00:59:10,946
with this mystery in our lives

1346
00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:13,482
<i>and having that mystery
in your life</i>

1347
00:59:13,516 --> 00:59:16,518
<i>and that driving curiosity
to find it, but you can't.</i>

1348
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:19,154
So when you find
a piece of it...

1349
00:59:19,188 --> 00:59:21,156
Well, 22 pieces of it,

1350
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:23,292
then it's like
I need to put these together

1351
00:59:23,326 --> 00:59:26,728
and it's so exciting
and it's very surreal,

1352
00:59:26,763 --> 00:59:28,530
but I love it.

1353
00:59:29,966 --> 00:59:31,533
[Sadie] We're gonna play
the audio tape we have.

1354
00:59:31,568 --> 00:59:32,968
- [woman] Ready, guys?
- [Sadie] Bradley

1355
00:59:33,002 --> 00:59:34,269
Apparently they can hear it
from there,

1356
00:59:34,304 --> 00:59:36,038
so, it's pretty wild.

1357
00:59:36,072 --> 00:59:38,340
[woman]<i> This is the audio tape</i>
<i>of donor 5114.</i>

1358
00:59:38,374 --> 00:59:42,511
<i>Today's date
is October 23rd, 1996.</i>

1359
00:59:42,545 --> 00:59:45,514
[man]<i> Hello.</i>
<i>My donor number is 5114.</i>

1360
00:59:45,548 --> 00:59:48,116
<i>I'm six-feet one inch tall.</i>

1361
00:59:48,151 --> 00:59:51,520
<i>I have a medium build.</i>

1362
00:59:51,554 --> 00:59:55,157
<i>I have straight brown hair
and brown eyes.</i>

1363
00:59:55,191 --> 00:59:59,728
<i>My skin color is slightly
olive, and I tan easily.</i>

1364
00:59:59,762 --> 01:00:01,363
<i>I have full lips</i>

1365
01:00:01,397 --> 01:00:03,999
<i>and normally an athletic build,</i>

1366
01:00:04,033 --> 01:00:05,867
<i>like when I work out,</i>

1367
01:00:05,902 --> 01:00:07,502
<i>I seem to get
results quickly, but...</i>

1368
01:00:07,537 --> 01:00:09,938
[laughs]

1369
01:00:09,973 --> 01:00:14,810
[man]<i> My mother originates</i>
<i>from Germany and England</i>

1370
01:00:14,844 --> 01:00:17,713
<i>and my father originates
from Germany.</i>

1371
01:00:17,747 --> 01:00:20,949
<i>At home, they say
that I'm most like my father.</i>

1372
01:00:20,984 --> 01:00:22,884
<i>I see both of them in me,
actually.</i>

1373
01:00:22,919 --> 01:00:24,186
[woman]<i> And how is that</i>
<i>that you're most</i>

1374
01:00:24,220 --> 01:00:25,787
<i>like your father they say?</i>

1375
01:00:25,822 --> 01:00:28,056
[man]<i> My father really</i>
<i>has tunnel vision</i>

1376
01:00:28,091 --> 01:00:29,691
<i>when it comes to doing things.</i>

1377
01:00:29,726 --> 01:00:33,729
<i>And so I seem to have focus
similar to his.</i>

1378
01:00:33,763 --> 01:00:36,732
[woman]<i> And what would do if</i>
<i>you had more time or money?</i>

1379
01:00:36,766 --> 01:00:39,768
<i>I would learn to play
an instrument well.</i>

1380
01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:41,703
<i>I've picked up
the guitar a few times,</i>

1381
01:00:41,738 --> 01:00:45,807
<i>but I haven't had time
to really learn it well.</i>

1382
01:00:45,842 --> 01:00:47,275
[Sadie] Was that your
first time hearing it?

1383
01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:48,877
[Jack] No. I've heard it before

1384
01:00:48,911 --> 01:00:50,445
but it was like
really crappy audio.

1385
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,880
- Oh, okay.
- Because I think someone

1386
01:00:51,914 --> 01:00:54,349
like recorded it
on their phone and sent to me.

1387
01:00:54,384 --> 01:00:55,684
[Alexis] That was...
I think that was me.

1388
01:00:55,718 --> 01:00:56,952
I think that was you. But I...

1389
01:00:56,986 --> 01:00:58,520
Like I could barely even hear it

1390
01:00:58,554 --> 01:01:00,722
and I just heard,
"I wish them all the luck."

1391
01:01:00,757 --> 01:01:02,457
That's all I heard. But...

1392
01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:04,559
It's like every time I listen
to it with another sibling

1393
01:01:04,594 --> 01:01:06,228
it's a little different
because you can just

1394
01:01:06,262 --> 01:01:08,930
connect it... Just...
You can connect things more.

1395
01:01:08,965 --> 01:01:11,166
To me, it just sounds
really like familiar,

1396
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,334
like we know him from somewhere

1397
01:01:12,368 --> 01:01:14,169
- but, like where?
- Yeah.

1398
01:01:14,203 --> 01:01:16,838
The first time I heard it,
it kind of like freaked me out

1399
01:01:16,873 --> 01:01:18,674
a little bit, but it didn't...

1400
01:01:18,708 --> 01:01:19,775
[Jack] He just sounds like

1401
01:01:19,809 --> 01:01:21,610
- Nick so much.
- Yeah.

1402
01:01:21,644 --> 01:01:23,412
He's got a really nice
voice like it's just...

1403
01:01:23,446 --> 01:01:25,514
Like, you know, how certain
people like with those voices,

1404
01:01:25,548 --> 01:01:26,848
so it's like,
it just soothes you

1405
01:01:26,883 --> 01:01:28,517
- to hear it.
- [Alexis] Yeah.

1406
01:01:28,551 --> 01:01:30,419
What I don't get is, like,
how there can be one dude

1407
01:01:30,486 --> 01:01:32,688
- that looks like all of us.
- [Neylan] Mmm-hmm.

1408
01:01:32,722 --> 01:01:34,389
Because sometimes
you see someone with their mom

1409
01:01:34,424 --> 01:01:36,091
and you're like, oh, God.
They look so much like them.

1410
01:01:36,125 --> 01:01:37,526
And then you see
their dad, and you're like,

1411
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,794
they look like them, too,
like a lot.

1412
01:01:38,828 --> 01:01:40,128
- [Alexis] What? Yeah.
- [Jack] Mmm-hmm.

1413
01:01:40,163 --> 01:01:43,165
[whimsical music playing]

1414
01:01:47,437 --> 01:01:50,405
[Nancy] So we have seven kids
born in 1998,

1415
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,407
six in 1999,

1416
01:01:52,442 --> 01:01:55,544
and then there's sort
of a fallow period for 2000,

1417
01:01:55,578 --> 01:01:57,846
and then two in 2001,

1418
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,083
and then Zeke was born in 2004,

1419
01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:05,420
and then we have
baby Grayson 2014.

1420
01:02:05,455 --> 01:02:07,122
[Jack] That's a big gap

1421
01:02:07,156 --> 01:02:10,192
between like Mattie and Grayson.

1422
01:02:10,226 --> 01:02:11,827
[Mattie]<i> My 18th birthday</i>
<i>is coming up</i>

1423
01:02:11,861 --> 01:02:14,496
and I feel like there's a lot
of the younger siblings

1424
01:02:14,530 --> 01:02:16,932
way more interested in finding
the donor than I am,

1425
01:02:16,966 --> 01:02:20,268
<i>but I am gonna definitely, like,</i>

1426
01:02:20,303 --> 01:02:22,070
<i>contact the Cryobank
and, like, request</i>

1427
01:02:22,105 --> 01:02:24,406
<i>for a picture and, like,
contact and stuff,</i>

1428
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,142
but I just kind of want to see
what they'll say.

1429
01:02:27,176 --> 01:02:29,745
I won't necessarily, like,

1430
01:02:29,779 --> 01:02:32,013
want to go meet him
if he does wanna meet.

1431
01:02:32,048 --> 01:02:34,649
But I feel, like,
just so they could like know,

1432
01:02:34,684 --> 01:02:36,818
like whenever they turn 18,

1433
01:02:36,853 --> 01:02:40,822
if he'll wanna, like,
meet them and stuff.

1434
01:02:40,857 --> 01:02:44,326
[dramatic music playing]

1435
01:02:46,329 --> 01:02:47,763
[Nancy]<i> You know,</i>
<i>you try to kind of wonder</i>

1436
01:02:47,797 --> 01:02:49,598
<i>what his life is like now.</i>

1437
01:02:49,632 --> 01:02:51,166
I mean, he donated for you guys

1438
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,270
like 20, 18, 19, 17 years ago.

1439
01:02:55,304 --> 01:02:57,405
And he was in his late 20s then,

1440
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,342
so he's probably
in his mid-40s now.

1441
01:03:00,376 --> 01:03:02,544
And, you know,
think about how different

1442
01:03:02,578 --> 01:03:04,613
your life is gonna be
in 20 years.

1443
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,416
And I'm willing to bet
that, when he donated,

1444
01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:13,088
he didn't fully
appreciate what he was doing,

1445
01:03:13,122 --> 01:03:15,157
that he didn't understand
that he was helping

1446
01:03:15,191 --> 01:03:17,159
to create all of you.

1447
01:03:17,193 --> 01:03:18,827
[Alexis] He obviously
has the right to his privacy.

1448
01:03:18,861 --> 01:03:20,695
But I mean I also think
we have the right

1449
01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:22,164
to at least some information

1450
01:03:22,198 --> 01:03:24,699
and, like, at least
more than we have now

1451
01:03:24,734 --> 01:03:26,868
and then what he...
When he donated,

1452
01:03:26,903 --> 01:03:30,138
he, like, should have
considered the future

1453
01:03:30,173 --> 01:03:32,140
and what he was gonna
be like in 20 years.

1454
01:03:32,175 --> 01:03:33,542
I'm not saying that
it's not right to ask

1455
01:03:33,576 --> 01:03:35,243
or it's not ask right to...

1456
01:03:35,278 --> 01:03:39,314
I mean, I would like to know
some things too, you know.

1457
01:03:39,348 --> 01:03:43,151
It's just, you know,
sometimes what we feel like

1458
01:03:43,186 --> 01:03:45,187
he needs to do,
he may not think that.

1459
01:03:45,221 --> 01:03:48,690
He may not even have this
as a priority.

1460
01:03:48,724 --> 01:03:51,326
[Lily] I feel like I'd want a
mystery

1461
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,930
more than I'd want
an unfulfilled,

1462
01:03:54,964 --> 01:03:57,532
- like void in my...
- Yeah. Me too.

1463
01:03:57,567 --> 01:04:00,969
And I'm like more interested
in, like, sibling stuff

1464
01:04:01,003 --> 01:04:05,207
than like dad stuff,
like I don't...

1465
01:04:05,241 --> 01:04:08,210
I've never, like, wanted
to really meet him.

1466
01:04:08,244 --> 01:04:10,212
I just wanna, like,
know what he looks like.

1467
01:04:10,246 --> 01:04:12,814
[Johnny] For me, at least,
I'm in it for you guys.

1468
01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:16,318
I've talked hours on end
with you guys

1469
01:04:16,352 --> 01:04:18,787
and I see myself
in you guys, you know?

1470
01:04:18,821 --> 01:04:22,224
[Danny] The most main reason
that we are here

1471
01:04:22,258 --> 01:04:25,393
every year meeting each other
is not to find the donor

1472
01:04:25,428 --> 01:04:26,661
but it's to be with each other,

1473
01:04:26,696 --> 01:04:28,763
because the connection
we've grown

1474
01:04:28,798 --> 01:04:31,132
is probably stronger than any
connection you could find,

1475
01:04:31,167 --> 01:04:34,814
so I'm satisfied
with having what we have here

1476
01:04:34,838 --> 01:04:36,605
because what we have here
is amazing.

1477
01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:38,607
[Alexis] And I'm realizing
that more and more

1478
01:04:38,641 --> 01:04:41,076
as time passes by, like I...

1479
01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:43,245
Even though it's kind of hard
to picture my life

1480
01:04:43,279 --> 01:04:45,614
without ever knowing
who the donor is, I can do it

1481
01:04:45,648 --> 01:04:47,883
but I cannot picture my life

1482
01:04:47,917 --> 01:04:51,319
without any of my siblings,
like, it's impossible.

1483
01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:54,356
[whimsical music playing]

1484
01:04:57,026 --> 01:04:59,227
[Danny] The trip was really,
really fun.

1485
01:04:59,262 --> 01:05:01,496
I definitely feel like
I've, like, connected

1486
01:05:01,530 --> 01:05:03,665
with the siblings
on like a whole new level

1487
01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:06,201
and we've all opened up
about more things

1488
01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:11,039
and more experiences
that we can all relate to.

1489
01:05:11,073 --> 01:05:13,541
[Mattie]<i> This trip, I learned</i>
<i>we all, like, struggle</i>

1490
01:05:13,576 --> 01:05:15,377
<i>with the same stuff emotionally,</i>

1491
01:05:15,411 --> 01:05:17,679
and that's, like, really cool
to know that we're, like,

1492
01:05:17,713 --> 01:05:19,614
all going through
the same stuff.

1493
01:05:19,649 --> 01:05:21,149
<i>It's gonna, like, suck,
like, leaving,</i>

1494
01:05:21,183 --> 01:05:22,884
<i>like I've already cried,</i>

1495
01:05:22,919 --> 01:05:25,387
I'm just gonna miss
everyone so much.

1496
01:05:29,892 --> 01:05:32,327
[Danny]<i> It never gets easier</i>
<i>to pack up and leave</i>

1497
01:05:32,361 --> 01:05:34,195
<i>just because with each meet-up,</i>

1498
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:36,865
<i>you get closer and closer
with every sibling</i>

1499
01:05:36,899 --> 01:05:38,934
<i>and it's just harder to go.</i>

1500
01:05:38,968 --> 01:05:40,335
<i>Almost feels like</i>

1501
01:05:40,369 --> 01:05:43,471
it's just, like,
our right to be together,

1502
01:05:43,506 --> 01:05:45,173
I don't know.

1503
01:05:45,207 --> 01:05:48,209
[whimsical music playing]

1504
01:05:53,716 --> 01:05:55,150
[Brandy]<i> On the way home</i>
<i>from Breckenridge,</i>

1505
01:05:55,184 --> 01:05:57,352
<i>we had a hard time because</i>

1506
01:05:57,386 --> 01:05:59,854
Daniel just had a meltdown
and cried a lot

1507
01:05:59,889 --> 01:06:03,458
and he was yelling a lot
and we were yelling a lot

1508
01:06:03,492 --> 01:06:06,094
and just...
I think there was just this

1509
01:06:06,128 --> 01:06:08,797
sense of disconnect

1510
01:06:08,831 --> 01:06:11,866
and, you know, he was saying
that, you know,

1511
01:06:11,901 --> 01:06:15,737
he just doesn't think
that we'll ever understand

1512
01:06:15,771 --> 01:06:20,108
how he feels and how important
everybody is to him

1513
01:06:20,142 --> 01:06:22,277
to the point of making us

1514
01:06:22,311 --> 01:06:25,580
feel kind of like we didn't
matter as much to him.

1515
01:06:25,614 --> 01:06:29,751
When we came back
from Breckenridge,

1516
01:06:29,785 --> 01:06:32,187
Daniel decided to go see
his grandparents

1517
01:06:32,221 --> 01:06:34,122
and my ex in Clovis.

1518
01:06:34,156 --> 01:06:39,127
And...

1519
01:06:39,161 --> 01:06:41,496
he just went to go spend
some time with her.

1520
01:06:47,036 --> 01:06:48,536
[Danny]<i> After Breckenridge,</i>

1521
01:06:48,571 --> 01:06:50,538
<i>I definitely felt like
I found a lot of myself</i>

1522
01:06:50,573 --> 01:06:52,674
<i>during that meet-up
and I just came home</i>

1523
01:06:52,708 --> 01:06:55,276
<i>and I kind of felt like
that Albuquerque,</i>

1524
01:06:55,311 --> 01:06:56,845
I was more focused
on being the person

1525
01:06:56,879 --> 01:06:58,046
that people wanted me to be

1526
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,748
and not being the person
I wanted to be.

1527
01:06:59,782 --> 01:07:01,983
<i>And so I decided to go ahead</i>

1528
01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:06,621
<i>and move down to Clovis
with my other mom.</i>

1529
01:07:06,655 --> 01:07:09,824
[Brandy]<i> She's not been</i>
<i>a really big part of his life</i>

1530
01:07:09,859 --> 01:07:11,659
and it's not something
I'm excited about

1531
01:07:11,694 --> 01:07:13,428
or that I want.

1532
01:07:13,462 --> 01:07:15,363
<i>But he wants to get to know her</i>

1533
01:07:15,398 --> 01:07:17,265
<i>and I didn't fight it.</i>

1534
01:07:17,333 --> 01:07:19,734
<i>Legally, I could fight it
and he could be here with me,</i>

1535
01:07:19,769 --> 01:07:22,604
but there's just
this disconnect with him.

1536
01:07:22,638 --> 01:07:24,406
And so I don't wanna push it

1537
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,274
because I don't wanna
push him away.

1538
01:07:29,011 --> 01:07:31,079
[Danny]<i> I kind of feel like</i>
<i>my moms took this whole move</i>

1539
01:07:31,113 --> 01:07:32,847
<i>a little too personal</i>

1540
01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:35,250
<i>and made it more about them
than they should have</i>

1541
01:07:35,284 --> 01:07:37,652
because it wasn't necessarily

1542
01:07:37,686 --> 01:07:39,354
about them at all,
with this whole move.

1543
01:07:39,388 --> 01:07:40,955
It was more about me

1544
01:07:40,990 --> 01:07:42,190
and ever since the time
I was five,

1545
01:07:42,224 --> 01:07:43,858
I had always been the older one

1546
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,427
looking after all the kids.

1547
01:07:45,461 --> 01:07:46,995
So it's nice to only, like,

1548
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:49,798
be responsible
for myself for once.

1549
01:07:52,201 --> 01:07:53,935
[Brandy]<i> He doesn't confide</i>
<i>in me anymore</i>

1550
01:07:53,969 --> 01:07:56,004
<i>and I know a lot of it
is the teenage stuff.</i>

1551
01:07:56,038 --> 01:07:59,407
<i>And I know he's growing
and he's becoming independent.</i>

1552
01:07:59,442 --> 01:08:02,677
But it really feels like
my heart's broken.

1553
01:08:02,711 --> 01:08:05,613
I just... I just want
some more time with him.

1554
01:08:07,416 --> 01:08:09,717
[Francesca]<i> Even though</i>
<i>we know we're good parents</i>

1555
01:08:09,752 --> 01:08:11,586
<i>and we know we're doing
all that we can,</i>

1556
01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:13,688
<i>it just makes you
question, like,</i>

1557
01:08:13,722 --> 01:08:15,390
<i>what did I do wrong?</i>

1558
01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:17,692
Maybe if he wouldn't have had

1559
01:08:17,726 --> 01:08:21,229
so much of the sibling
family unit,

1560
01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:23,932
you know, what he have pulled
away from us like he is.

1561
01:08:23,966 --> 01:08:27,001
<i>And I think that's what's
kind of making us</i>

1562
01:08:27,036 --> 01:08:28,636
<i>regret our decision a little bit</i>

1563
01:08:28,671 --> 01:08:30,805
<i>to foster the connections</i>

1564
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,575
between the siblings and Daniel.

1565
01:08:45,921 --> 01:08:47,722
[woman] Are you excited
about being 18?

1566
01:08:47,756 --> 01:08:49,491
[Mattie] Yes, I am.

1567
01:08:49,525 --> 01:08:51,259
Ever since I can remember,

1568
01:08:51,293 --> 01:08:54,863
like, whenever we, like, found
the siblings and everything,

1569
01:08:54,897 --> 01:08:57,465
I would always feel like,
"Oh, yeah, I'm the oldest."

1570
01:08:57,533 --> 01:08:59,667
It was always so, like,
distant in the future

1571
01:08:59,702 --> 01:09:01,536
and I wasn't, like, thinking,

1572
01:09:01,570 --> 01:09:04,405
"Oh, like, this will
actually happen someday."

1573
01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:07,575
[woman] So if you're thinking
that if you were the only one

1574
01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:09,944
and you might not really
have so much interest

1575
01:09:09,979 --> 01:09:12,380
in contacting the Cryobank,

1576
01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:15,550
are you feeling pressure
because people are coming?

1577
01:09:15,584 --> 01:09:18,486
Yeah, I know that they're all,
like, expecting it

1578
01:09:18,521 --> 01:09:23,158
and I'm like 95% sure
I'll probably call Latrice.

1579
01:09:23,192 --> 01:09:26,327
But you would be fine
with maybe just a picture?

1580
01:09:26,362 --> 01:09:28,897
- [Mattie] Yeah.
- That would be interesting.

1581
01:09:28,931 --> 01:09:30,732
- [Mattie] If he's ugly...
- What if you get it? Yeah.

1582
01:09:30,766 --> 01:09:32,901
What if you get it
and he's ugly,

1583
01:09:32,935 --> 01:09:36,437
- "how would that go?"
- That would be interesting.

1584
01:09:36,472 --> 01:09:39,941
[whimsical music playing]

1585
01:09:39,975 --> 01:09:41,342
- [Mattie] Hi.
- Hi.

1586
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,379
- [Mattie] Hi.
- [Julia] Hi.

1587
01:09:44,413 --> 01:09:45,980
[Mattie] How are you?

1588
01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,383
Hi, nice to meet you.

1589
01:09:48,417 --> 01:09:51,419
[upbeat music playing]

1590
01:10:06,802 --> 01:10:08,736
[laughs]

1591
01:10:08,771 --> 01:10:13,474
[all]<i> ♪ Happy birthday To you ♪</i>

1592
01:10:13,509 --> 01:10:18,079
<i>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪</i>

1593
01:10:18,113 --> 01:10:23,484
<i>♪ Happy birthday, Dear Mattie ♪</i>

1594
01:10:23,519 --> 01:10:28,289
<i>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪</i>

1595
01:10:28,324 --> 01:10:29,924
[cheering]

1596
01:10:29,959 --> 01:10:32,293
-[woman] Watch your hair,
-Watch your hair.

1597
01:10:32,328 --> 01:10:33,962
[cheering]

1598
01:10:33,996 --> 01:10:35,463
[laughter]

1599
01:10:35,497 --> 01:10:37,532
- [man] Go, go, go, go.
- [woman] Blow it out.

1600
01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:39,100
[screams]

1601
01:10:39,134 --> 01:10:41,269
[woman] What happened?

1602
01:10:41,303 --> 01:10:43,104
- [man] Oh my God.
- [woman] Oh my God.

1603
01:10:43,138 --> 01:10:46,541
[cheering]

1604
01:10:46,575 --> 01:10:49,577
[phone rings]

1605
01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:55,383
[Mattie]<i> Hello.</i>

1606
01:10:55,417 --> 01:10:56,784
[Latrice]<i> Hello,</i>
<i>this is Latrice.</i>

1607
01:10:56,819 --> 01:10:58,453
Hi, Latrice,
this is Mattie Overmeyer

1608
01:10:58,487 --> 01:11:00,288
from 5114.

1609
01:11:00,322 --> 01:11:02,857
I just turned 18
and I was just wondering,

1610
01:11:02,891 --> 01:11:04,692
like, about contacting the donor

1611
01:11:04,727 --> 01:11:08,040
and, like, the process I had
to go through and everything.

1612
01:11:08,064 --> 01:11:09,964
[Latrice]<i> Oh, okay.</i>
<i>Happy birthday.</i>

1613
01:11:09,999 --> 01:11:12,000
- Thank you.
- [Latrice]<i> Uh, so, basically</i>

1614
01:11:12,034 --> 01:11:14,636
<i>what I have to do
is that I have to put in</i>

1615
01:11:14,670 --> 01:11:17,005
<i>a request to locate the donor,</i>

1616
01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:19,707
<i>um, because the donor
is anonymous,</i>

1617
01:11:19,742 --> 01:11:21,276
<i>it's not guaranteed</i>

1618
01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:24,178
<i>that he will respond
to our enquiries.</i>

1619
01:11:24,213 --> 01:11:27,181
<i>But we will definitely do
our due diligence</i>

1620
01:11:27,216 --> 01:11:29,617
<i>and try to reach out
to him to find out</i>

1621
01:11:29,652 --> 01:11:32,620
<i>how he feels
about communicating.</i>

1622
01:11:32,655 --> 01:11:36,190
<i>So, um, from the time
I turn in the information,</i>

1623
01:11:36,225 --> 01:11:38,993
<i>it can take anywhere between
four to six weeks</i>

1624
01:11:39,028 --> 01:11:40,828
<i>before I get his whereabouts.</i>

1625
01:11:40,863 --> 01:11:44,599
<i>And we generally attempt
at least three times</i>

1626
01:11:44,633 --> 01:11:47,368
<i>and if he doesn't reply
within three attempts,</i>

1627
01:11:47,403 --> 01:11:49,537
<i>then we have to assume
that he doesn't want</i>

1628
01:11:49,571 --> 01:11:51,539
<i>to, um, communicate.</i>

1629
01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:53,007
<i>And at that point,</i>

1630
01:11:53,075 --> 01:11:56,010
<i>we will have to respect
his wishes.</i>

1631
01:11:56,045 --> 01:11:58,212
<i>If you have any additional
questions before I get back</i>

1632
01:11:58,247 --> 01:12:00,381
<i>in contact with you,
Just give me a call.</i>

1633
01:12:00,416 --> 01:12:02,684
<i>Have a wonderful birthday
and I'll talk to you soon.</i>

1634
01:12:02,718 --> 01:12:04,218
Thank you, thank you so much.

1635
01:12:04,253 --> 01:12:06,421
[Latrice]<i> Okay. Bye-bye.</i>

1636
01:12:06,455 --> 01:12:09,123
Kind of surprised me
like during the phone how,

1637
01:12:09,158 --> 01:12:11,793
like, emotional, like,
I kind of felt, like,

1638
01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:13,561
because, you know, like,
no matter what he says,

1639
01:12:13,595 --> 01:12:15,897
it's gonna probably
change our lives forever.

1640
01:12:15,931 --> 01:12:17,432
I don't know. Like we've
been waiting for this

1641
01:12:17,466 --> 01:12:19,233
for so long and like
it's just crazy

1642
01:12:19,268 --> 01:12:21,669
that actually... The time.

1643
01:12:21,737 --> 01:12:22,870
[Mattie] Yeah.

1644
01:12:27,543 --> 01:12:30,244
[Ben] Julia, like, and me,
like, we've always like

1645
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:32,280
been curious about the dad

1646
01:12:32,314 --> 01:12:33,581
and like what it would be like

1647
01:12:33,615 --> 01:12:35,583
if we had a dad kind of thing.

1648
01:12:35,617 --> 01:12:37,218
We've always been like
lucky to have

1649
01:12:37,252 --> 01:12:38,686
like the moms that we do,

1650
01:12:38,721 --> 01:12:41,055
but like having a dad
would be like different,

1651
01:12:41,090 --> 01:12:44,258
like, we're not like asking
for one, we're just like...

1652
01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:46,427
We just like kind of
wanna know, yeah.

1653
01:12:46,462 --> 01:12:48,596
[Julia] And it's just like

1654
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:52,033
how you not wanna meet
people you gave life to,

1655
01:12:52,067 --> 01:12:55,370
like how could that not
mean something to you?

1656
01:12:55,404 --> 01:12:57,405
And also I just wonder
like if he has kids

1657
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,706
- because that's like...
- Yeah. Yeah.

1658
01:12:58,741 --> 01:13:00,408
...that could be like
two, three,

1659
01:13:00,442 --> 01:13:02,276
four more half-siblings
that we don't even know about.

1660
01:13:02,311 --> 01:13:04,779
[Julia] Yeah. Probably hard
for them now,

1661
01:13:04,813 --> 01:13:05,780
- because like...
- Yeah.

1662
01:13:05,814 --> 01:13:07,148
...they're his dad.

1663
01:13:07,182 --> 01:13:09,450
Some, like, 20-something
other half-kids

1664
01:13:09,485 --> 01:13:11,018
came in and started
to talk to my dad,

1665
01:13:11,053 --> 01:13:12,587
I'd be like, "Um,
get the hell out of here."

1666
01:13:12,621 --> 01:13:14,255
- I will not be...
- [woman] Yeah.

1667
01:13:14,289 --> 01:13:16,357
I would kind of look like,
I'd be like, "Errr."

1668
01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:18,960
Yeah. There's like
a lot of stuff that, like,

1669
01:13:18,994 --> 01:13:21,329
he has to like factor
and then like

1670
01:13:21,363 --> 01:13:23,208
so many things
that, like, saying yes

1671
01:13:23,232 --> 01:13:25,099
could affect in his life.

1672
01:13:25,134 --> 01:13:27,168
Maybe he's just
as nervous as we are.

1673
01:13:27,202 --> 01:13:30,171
Yeah. Because
I'd be more nervous

1674
01:13:30,205 --> 01:13:31,939
if I were in his situation.

1675
01:13:31,974 --> 01:13:33,908
It's like we have each other.

1676
01:13:33,942 --> 01:13:36,944
He has... Who knows who he has

1677
01:13:36,979 --> 01:13:40,248
to, like, go through
this with, I guess.

1678
01:13:40,282 --> 01:13:43,284
[dramatic music playing]

1679
01:13:50,459 --> 01:13:52,794
[Latrice] "This is
interesting. In 20 years",

1680
01:13:52,828 --> 01:13:54,595
I would like to be
happy with my family

1681
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:56,364
and free to live life together.

1682
01:13:56,398 --> 01:13:59,801
My goal is to be balanced
physically and mentally.

1683
01:13:59,835 --> 01:14:02,303
Ultimately he would
like to understand

1684
01:14:02,337 --> 01:14:03,971
"the truth of our existence."

1685
01:14:04,006 --> 01:14:05,740
Okay.

1686
01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:08,843
[dramatic music playing]

1687
01:14:10,913 --> 01:14:12,847
Hi, it's Latrice, how are you?

1688
01:14:12,881 --> 01:14:14,248
Good, thank you.

1689
01:14:14,283 --> 01:14:16,350
Wanna let you know
that I have a request

1690
01:14:16,418 --> 01:14:20,822
for a donor location
for a number 5114.

1691
01:14:20,856 --> 01:14:22,390
<i>If we're lucky</i>

1692
01:14:22,424 --> 01:14:24,692
<i>and a donor responds
to our enquiries,</i>

1693
01:14:24,726 --> 01:14:26,427
<i>it can go two ways.</i>

1694
01:14:26,462 --> 01:14:27,929
<i>The donor will either agree</i>

1695
01:14:27,963 --> 01:14:29,197
<i>or he won't agree.</i>

1696
01:14:29,231 --> 01:14:30,832
<i>The hard part for me</i>

1697
01:14:30,866 --> 01:14:32,811
<i>is contacting the offspring</i>

1698
01:14:32,835 --> 01:14:34,402
<i>to let them know
that he doesn't want</i>

1699
01:14:34,436 --> 01:14:36,537
<i>to participate in communicating.</i>

1700
01:14:36,572 --> 01:14:41,008
I try to deliver
the blow as passionately

1701
01:14:41,042 --> 01:14:43,244
and, you know, empathetic

1702
01:14:43,278 --> 01:14:46,247
and sympathetically
as I possibly can

1703
01:14:46,281 --> 01:14:49,250
because the offsprings
are anticipating

1704
01:14:49,284 --> 01:14:51,385
there's some hope that,
you know,

1705
01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:53,821
we've reached out to this guy,
he's responded,

1706
01:14:53,856 --> 01:14:56,224
but then he doesn't
wanna participate.

1707
01:14:56,258 --> 01:14:57,692
Once a donor says no,

1708
01:14:57,726 --> 01:14:59,594
we have to, you know,
accept that

1709
01:14:59,628 --> 01:15:01,662
and move on and it's just...

1710
01:15:01,697 --> 01:15:03,064
It's devastating to have

1711
01:15:03,098 --> 01:15:06,300
to make that phone call
to the offsprings.

1712
01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:09,337
[dramatic music playing]

1713
01:15:11,773 --> 01:15:14,275
[Mattie]<i> A lot of the siblings</i>
<i>once they found out</i>

1714
01:15:14,309 --> 01:15:18,246
that I was getting
the call today, um,

1715
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,715
like Danny started crying
at school and had to,

1716
01:15:20,749 --> 01:15:22,650
like, go home and a lot of them

1717
01:15:22,684 --> 01:15:25,052
were just like freaking out
and so was I.

1718
01:15:25,087 --> 01:15:26,888
It was like...

1719
01:15:26,922 --> 01:15:28,890
It's just like super anxious

1720
01:15:28,924 --> 01:15:31,792
and like...
And she's calling me.

1721
01:15:31,827 --> 01:15:33,327
Okay.

1722
01:15:36,965 --> 01:15:38,733
Hello.

1723
01:15:38,767 --> 01:15:40,568
[Latrice]<i> Hi,</i>
<i>may I speak to Mattie?</i>

1724
01:15:40,602 --> 01:15:42,770
Hi, how are you?

1725
01:15:42,804 --> 01:15:44,438
[Latrice]<i> Hi, Mattie,</i>
<i>it's Latrice Allen</i>

1726
01:15:44,473 --> 01:15:46,641
<i>from the Cryobank.
I'm good, how are you?</i>

1727
01:15:46,675 --> 01:15:49,110
- I'm good.
- [Latrice]<i> Good.</i>

1728
01:15:49,144 --> 01:15:50,578
<i>Well, I want to give you a call</i>

1729
01:15:50,646 --> 01:15:52,580
<i>to give you an update,</i>

1730
01:15:52,614 --> 01:15:55,883
<i>um, I did speak with the donor.</i>

1731
01:15:55,918 --> 01:16:01,722
<i>The bottom line is that
he is willing to communicate,</i>

1732
01:16:01,757 --> 01:16:05,126
<i>um, anonymously facilitated
through me.</i>

1733
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,730
<i>He needs a little bit
more time to iron out</i>

1734
01:16:09,765 --> 01:16:12,500
<i>whatever the thought process
needs to be.</i>

1735
01:16:12,534 --> 01:16:15,213
<i>So he says it's not a problem</i>

1736
01:16:15,237 --> 01:16:16,804
<i>if it's gonna happen,</i>

1737
01:16:16,838 --> 01:16:18,940
<i>but the issue is just
when it's gonna happen</i>

1738
01:16:18,974 --> 01:16:22,143
<i>because he needs to make sure
that he's 100% comfortable</i>

1739
01:16:22,177 --> 01:16:24,312
<i>that his family
will be protected</i>

1740
01:16:24,346 --> 01:16:26,547
<i>once he starts to communicate.</i>

1741
01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:29,317
Okay. Wow.

1742
01:16:29,351 --> 01:16:30,451
[Latrice] <i>And then if you have</i>

1743
01:16:30,485 --> 01:16:32,353
<i>specific questions for him,</i>

1744
01:16:32,387 --> 01:16:34,622
<i>depending on the confidentiality</i>

1745
01:16:34,656 --> 01:16:36,457
<i>of the questions, he will answer</i>

1746
01:16:36,491 --> 01:16:38,392
<i>whatever he's comfortable
with answering</i>

1747
01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:41,562
<i>and then, you know,
give you a bio of himself.</i>

1748
01:16:41,597 --> 01:16:43,364
I don't know if you're
allowed to tell me this,

1749
01:16:43,398 --> 01:16:45,499
but so he does like have

1750
01:16:45,534 --> 01:16:47,435
his own like family
and everything?

1751
01:16:47,469 --> 01:16:48,436
Like does he have his own kids?

1752
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:50,304
[Latrice]<i> Yes, he does.</i>

1753
01:16:50,339 --> 01:16:51,806
<i>Yes, he does.</i>

1754
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,941
Do you know how many there are?

1755
01:16:53,976 --> 01:16:55,042
[Latrice]<i> I do, but I'd have to</i>

1756
01:16:55,077 --> 01:16:56,210
<i>let him let you know that.</i>

1757
01:16:56,244 --> 01:16:57,712
Okay. Thank you so much,

1758
01:16:57,746 --> 01:16:59,880
I can't wait
to hear back from you.

1759
01:16:59,915 --> 01:17:01,682
[Latrice]<i> Okay. No problem,</i>
<i>you're welcome</i>

1760
01:17:01,717 --> 01:17:04,385
<i>- and have a great weekend.</i>
- You too, thank you.

1761
01:17:04,419 --> 01:17:06,954
[Latrice]<i> Okay. All righty.</i>
<i>Bye-bye.</i>

1762
01:17:08,323 --> 01:17:11,025
- What the heck?
- [woman] That's exciting.

1763
01:17:11,059 --> 01:17:12,960
How do you sit with that?

1764
01:17:12,995 --> 01:17:14,295
What did you expect?

1765
01:17:14,329 --> 01:17:16,030
- Is that what you thought?
- Not that.

1766
01:17:16,064 --> 01:17:17,632
[woman] What did you think?

1767
01:17:17,666 --> 01:17:19,100
Did you think he would say no?

1768
01:17:19,134 --> 01:17:20,901
- Yes.
- [woman] You did? Oh.

1769
01:17:20,936 --> 01:17:24,438
[laughs] You were hoping
the easy way out.

1770
01:17:26,241 --> 01:17:28,509
[Mattie] Hello.

1771
01:17:28,543 --> 01:17:29,877
<i>- Hello.
- Hi.</i>

1772
01:17:29,911 --> 01:17:32,079
- [Mattie] Can you hear me?
<i>- Yes.</i>

1773
01:17:32,114 --> 01:17:33,547
<i>- Yes.
- Mmm-hmm.</i>

1774
01:17:33,582 --> 01:17:37,551
[Mattie] Okay.
So, he's alive, good news.

1775
01:17:37,586 --> 01:17:40,421
And he said yes

1776
01:17:40,455 --> 01:17:43,557
to contacting me anonymously

1777
01:17:43,592 --> 01:17:46,527
through the Cryobank,
but he doesn't wanna contact

1778
01:17:46,561 --> 01:17:49,130
from anyone else
who is under the age of 18.

1779
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:51,699
And he has own family and kids.

1780
01:17:51,733 --> 01:17:54,669
And I'm gonna send him
like a bio of like stuff.

1781
01:17:54,703 --> 01:17:57,038
[woman]<i> So like if he gets</i>
<i>to know you better,</i>

1782
01:17:57,072 --> 01:17:59,040
<i>he might like reveal his name?</i>

1783
01:17:59,074 --> 01:18:00,541
Maybe, I don't know.

1784
01:18:00,575 --> 01:18:02,476
It's gonna be a step at a time.

1785
01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:04,111
[woman]<i> Well, that's good,</i>
<i>it's a good start</i>

1786
01:18:04,146 --> 01:18:06,747
<i>and like whatever
he's comfortable with.</i>

1787
01:18:06,782 --> 01:18:09,350
<i>This is good news though, guys.</i>

1788
01:18:09,384 --> 01:18:11,452
<i>Yeah, I'm excited.</i>

1789
01:18:11,486 --> 01:18:12,920
<i>I didn't have to cry.</i>

1790
01:18:12,954 --> 01:18:14,355
[laughs]

1791
01:18:16,158 --> 01:18:19,160
[dramatic music playing]

1792
01:18:21,396 --> 01:18:24,098
[Mattie] I've always
been telling myself

1793
01:18:24,132 --> 01:18:26,901
that I didn't necessarily care

1794
01:18:26,935 --> 01:18:28,335
<i>about the donor</i>

1795
01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:29,904
<i>and I didn't care about</i>

1796
01:18:29,938 --> 01:18:31,105
<i>what his answer was</i>

1797
01:18:31,139 --> 01:18:32,673
<i>and I didn't wanna meet him.</i>

1798
01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:37,144
<i>And now that I know
that his answer is yes,</i>

1799
01:18:37,179 --> 01:18:38,979
it's kind of scary

1800
01:18:39,014 --> 01:18:41,649
that I let my guard down now

1801
01:18:41,683 --> 01:18:43,451
that he said yes to contact

1802
01:18:43,485 --> 01:18:46,087
because now is the time
that I really,

1803
01:18:46,121 --> 01:18:49,356
like, could get rejected
like as a person,

1804
01:18:49,391 --> 01:18:50,958
like, with him reading my bio

1805
01:18:50,992 --> 01:18:53,160
and like actually
seeing who I am

1806
01:18:53,195 --> 01:18:55,329
and, like,
seeing a picture of me.

1807
01:18:55,363 --> 01:18:58,132
And then if he says like,

1808
01:18:58,166 --> 01:18:59,734
"Stop contacting me,"
or whatever,

1809
01:18:59,768 --> 01:19:02,336
then that would
really be rejection,

1810
01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:05,706
<i>so that's kind of scary.</i>

1811
01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:07,908
[woman]<i> Mattie, has that</i>
<i>protection mechanism in her</i>

1812
01:19:07,943 --> 01:19:10,711
<i>that if she doesn't know
what the answer is gonna be,</i>

1813
01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:13,180
<i>she's gonna protect herself
from that answer.</i>

1814
01:19:13,215 --> 01:19:15,382
<i>And now that she's found out
that he is willing</i>

1815
01:19:15,450 --> 01:19:17,985
<i>to have a connection to them,</i>

1816
01:19:18,019 --> 01:19:21,021
<i>I think she's cautiously
optimistic but excited</i>

1817
01:19:21,056 --> 01:19:23,524
and way more than she ever
dreamed she would be.

1818
01:19:23,558 --> 01:19:26,594
[dramatic music playing]

1819
01:19:34,169 --> 01:19:37,171
[birds chirping]

1820
01:19:42,878 --> 01:19:44,512
[Lorie] <i>I've been excited today,</i>

1821
01:19:44,546 --> 01:19:45,579
<i>I've been nervous,</i>

1822
01:19:45,614 --> 01:19:47,314
<i>I've been crying,</i>

1823
01:19:47,349 --> 01:19:49,150
<i>not sure why.</i>

1824
01:19:49,184 --> 01:19:51,986
<i>Just I guess the enormity
of the whole thing,</i>

1825
01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:53,854
<i>you know, that it's like
finally over,</i>

1826
01:19:53,889 --> 01:19:55,923
<i>that he's coming back.</i>

1827
01:19:55,957 --> 01:19:57,825
He hasn't lived here
in two and a half years

1828
01:19:57,859 --> 01:20:01,195
so that's gonna be kind of
a little nervous

1829
01:20:01,229 --> 01:20:03,931
<i>about just living with him again</i>

1830
01:20:03,965 --> 01:20:07,234
<i>and he's changed so much
and I think I have changed</i>

1831
01:20:07,269 --> 01:20:10,504
<i>and it'll be interesting
to see how that all plays out</i>

1832
01:20:10,539 --> 01:20:13,908
of coming back together again
after two and a half years

1833
01:20:13,942 --> 01:20:16,410
as two different people.

1834
01:20:16,444 --> 01:20:18,579
It's gonna be interesting.

1835
01:20:18,613 --> 01:20:21,615
[dramatic music playing]

1836
01:20:25,220 --> 01:20:27,388
[Lorie]<i> Having decided</i>
<i>that he's coming home,</i>

1837
01:20:27,422 --> 01:20:28,823
<i>I've been, you know,
an empty nester</i>

1838
01:20:28,857 --> 01:20:30,691
<i>for two and a half years,</i>

1839
01:20:30,725 --> 01:20:34,061
<i>and I look at the future,
it's awful nice.</i>

1840
01:20:34,095 --> 01:20:36,197
<i>Really hopeful, you know.</i>

1841
01:20:36,231 --> 01:20:38,699
<i>He's done a lot
of good hard work.</i>

1842
01:20:38,733 --> 01:20:40,801
<i>I wanna see him and know</i>

1843
01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:43,838
<i>that he's not getting back
on another airplane.</i>

1844
01:20:43,872 --> 01:20:45,639
<i>That's the best part.</i>

1845
01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:48,809
<i>Just knowing that he's not
going away again.</i>

1846
01:20:48,844 --> 01:20:50,578
There he is.

1847
01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:54,548
[dramatic music playing]

1848
01:20:54,583 --> 01:20:55,583
[Lorie] How are you doing?

1849
01:20:55,617 --> 01:20:57,518
Where is your stuff?

1850
01:20:57,552 --> 01:20:58,719
[indistinct]

1851
01:20:58,753 --> 01:21:01,121
Oh, how was your flight?

1852
01:21:01,156 --> 01:21:03,257
It's good.

1853
01:21:03,291 --> 01:21:05,259
Back home for good.

1854
01:21:06,661 --> 01:21:08,128
[Nathan]<i> Coming home,</i>

1855
01:21:08,163 --> 01:21:09,830
<i>it doesn't really feel real yet,</i>

1856
01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:11,966
<i>I came back with a lot
more self-confidence</i>

1857
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,400
<i>and definitely patience,</i>

1858
01:21:13,435 --> 01:21:15,135
<i>like, understanding for others.</i>

1859
01:21:15,170 --> 01:21:16,604
I guess it'll probably
hit me sooner

1860
01:21:16,638 --> 01:21:18,205
and when I start like school
and all that,

1861
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,040
that I'm here for good
and I'm really not,

1862
01:21:20,075 --> 01:21:22,576
<i>like, gonna go anywhere else.</i>

1863
01:21:22,611 --> 01:21:24,478
[Lorie] Ooh, what's this?

1864
01:21:24,512 --> 01:21:26,747
[Nathan] Oh, I, like,
put all the pictures in there.

1865
01:21:26,781 --> 01:21:29,583
You made this
out of surgical tape.

1866
01:21:29,618 --> 01:21:32,253
- Mmm-hmm.
- [Lorie] Physically, I mean,

1867
01:21:32,287 --> 01:21:34,221
I sent away a little boy,
you know,

1868
01:21:34,256 --> 01:21:37,057
I sent away
a little scrawny thing

1869
01:21:37,092 --> 01:21:40,995
<i>and they sent me back
this man, you know.</i>

1870
01:21:41,029 --> 01:21:42,930
That's cool to see, you know,

1871
01:21:42,964 --> 01:21:45,432
because I love
who he's becoming, uh, I do.

1872
01:21:45,467 --> 01:21:47,101
He's a good person.

1873
01:21:48,436 --> 01:21:50,437
Oh, how did you get
that picture?

1874
01:21:50,472 --> 01:21:51,872
They sent it to me.

1875
01:21:51,907 --> 01:21:53,307
- [Nathan] Cool.
- [Lorie] So sweet,

1876
01:21:53,341 --> 01:21:56,543
that was Fanny,
that was his dog in school.

1877
01:21:56,578 --> 01:21:57,978
[Nathan]<i> Coming back home,</i>

1878
01:21:58,013 --> 01:21:59,546
<i>I think it's gonna be
a lot easier</i>

1879
01:21:59,581 --> 01:22:02,283
<i>to like use the skills
that I got just to like</i>

1880
01:22:02,317 --> 01:22:04,685
get along with my mom
and like work things out,

1881
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:06,820
like use communication,
actually get things done.

1882
01:22:06,855 --> 01:22:09,189
<i>There's always gonna
be things in the beginning</i>

1883
01:22:09,224 --> 01:22:10,624
<i>that's still gonna, like,</i>

1884
01:22:10,659 --> 01:22:12,660
take getting used to
but it's just nice

1885
01:22:12,694 --> 01:22:15,496
to like have my freedom
and be able to like

1886
01:22:15,530 --> 01:22:17,731
kind of run my own life
and take some control

1887
01:22:17,766 --> 01:22:19,934
over that,
because it's been awhile.

1888
01:22:19,968 --> 01:22:21,302
[knocks on door]

1889
01:22:24,539 --> 01:22:26,340
- [Neylan] Hi.
- Hey, what's up?

1890
01:22:28,376 --> 01:22:29,810
Hi, Neylan.

1891
01:22:29,844 --> 01:22:31,345
Oh, my gosh,
look how tall you've got.

1892
01:22:31,379 --> 01:22:32,646
I haven't seen you in, like,

1893
01:22:32,681 --> 01:22:34,848
look at you, taller than he is.

1894
01:22:34,883 --> 01:22:35,983
Well, it's been a
long time, so...

1895
01:22:36,017 --> 01:22:36,984
[Lorie] It's been what?

1896
01:22:37,018 --> 01:22:37,985
You haven't seen her since,

1897
01:22:38,019 --> 01:22:39,553
uh, like California, right?

1898
01:22:39,587 --> 01:22:41,555
Mmm-hmm. Like two and a half,
three years.

1899
01:22:41,589 --> 01:22:43,324
[Lorie] Two and a half...
Almost three years. Yeah.

1900
01:22:43,358 --> 01:22:45,326
- Wow.
- [Neylan]<i> There were days</i>

1901
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,127
<i>whenever I'd be
sitting there thinking</i>

1902
01:22:47,162 --> 01:22:49,563
<i>about the siblings
and everything.</i>

1903
01:22:49,597 --> 01:22:51,465
And I just get really
emotional and I was like,

1904
01:22:51,533 --> 01:22:53,033
"I miss Nathan so much."

1905
01:22:53,068 --> 01:22:54,868
And like I'd tell my mom
and she was like,

1906
01:22:54,903 --> 01:22:56,503
"I know you do, Neylan."

1907
01:22:56,538 --> 01:22:58,839
And so I think it was like
really exciting

1908
01:22:58,873 --> 01:23:01,342
for us whenever we heard
that he was coming back.

1909
01:23:01,376 --> 01:23:02,910
<i>Because I think me and him</i>

1910
01:23:02,944 --> 01:23:05,179
<i>like really clicked
whenever we were 13.</i>

1911
01:23:05,213 --> 01:23:06,914
- [Nathan]<i> Yeah.</i>
- [Neylan]<i> So,</i>

1912
01:23:06,948 --> 01:23:09,016
<i>it kind of sucked
not being able to like grow</i>

1913
01:23:09,050 --> 01:23:11,251
<i>on that together
for a few years,</i>

1914
01:23:11,286 --> 01:23:13,754
but like now we can
because he's back

1915
01:23:13,788 --> 01:23:17,224
and we can talk all the time
if we wanted to.

1916
01:23:17,258 --> 01:23:18,625
You don't want a shot
of this one?

1917
01:23:18,660 --> 01:23:21,362
[Nathan] Nice.

1918
01:23:21,396 --> 01:23:22,463
[Neylan]
I'm not sure if everyone

1919
01:23:22,497 --> 01:23:23,731
is gonna get the tattoo,

1920
01:23:23,765 --> 01:23:25,199
I know some of them already have

1921
01:23:25,233 --> 01:23:26,900
but just with the number.

1922
01:23:26,935 --> 01:23:28,736
And they've gotten it
in place where, like,

1923
01:23:28,770 --> 01:23:30,604
it's not very noticeable.

1924
01:23:30,638 --> 01:23:32,239
I don't know, I'd like...
I'd get the tattoo,

1925
01:23:32,273 --> 01:23:34,575
I don't know how much
I'd want the sperm

1926
01:23:34,609 --> 01:23:36,210
floating around on my leg,

1927
01:23:36,244 --> 01:23:39,747
but I'd get the numbers,
it's cool.

1928
01:23:39,781 --> 01:23:41,882
[Neylan] So we found
a new sibling,

1929
01:23:41,916 --> 01:23:44,885
she's from Hawaii,
so that's pretty cool.

1930
01:23:44,919 --> 01:23:46,787
There she is.

1931
01:23:46,821 --> 01:23:51,025
That makes 22 siblings
counting all of us together.

1932
01:23:51,059 --> 01:23:52,559
[Nathan] And she's 17?

1933
01:23:52,594 --> 01:23:54,762
- [Neylan] Yeah.
- [Nathan] Nice.

1934
01:23:54,796 --> 01:23:57,197
[Neylan]<i> I was nervous</i>
<i>to see him again</i>

1935
01:23:57,232 --> 01:23:59,433
because I don't know,
I haven't seen him in forever.

1936
01:23:59,467 --> 01:24:00,968
So I was kind of scared
that it...

1937
01:24:01,002 --> 01:24:02,469
Like, things had changed so much

1938
01:24:02,504 --> 01:24:03,470
that we wouldn't get along

1939
01:24:03,505 --> 01:24:05,406
as well as we did before.

1940
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:07,408
[Nathan]<i> I was on</i>
<i>the same page as Neylan</i>

1941
01:24:07,442 --> 01:24:08,976
<i>just because it's
kind of weird, like,</i>

1942
01:24:09,010 --> 01:24:11,111
<i>not seeing someone
for such a long time</i>

1943
01:24:11,146 --> 01:24:12,479
<i>like two and a half years.</i>

1944
01:24:12,514 --> 01:24:14,459
But the connection
is still there,

1945
01:24:14,483 --> 01:24:16,784
which I'm, like, glad to see

1946
01:24:16,818 --> 01:24:18,986
so it's good to be back.

1947
01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:21,588
[birds chirping]

1948
01:24:21,623 --> 01:24:24,658
[dramatic music playing]

1949
01:24:26,895 --> 01:24:28,695
[Mattie] <i>After my 18th birthday,</i>

1950
01:24:28,730 --> 01:24:31,465
<i>I was waiting to hear
back from Latrice.</i>

1951
01:24:31,533 --> 01:24:34,435
<i>And I was just kind of
not really sure</i>

1952
01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:37,638
<i>how to proceed with everything.</i>

1953
01:24:37,672 --> 01:24:39,773
<i>I was always kind of
hesitant about it</i>

1954
01:24:39,808 --> 01:24:42,509
<i>and I was doing it
for the other siblings</i>

1955
01:24:42,544 --> 01:24:45,512
but also for myself.
And I don't know.

1956
01:24:45,547 --> 01:24:47,214
It's kind of one of those things

1957
01:24:47,248 --> 01:24:49,650
where you're putting yourself
so far out there

1958
01:24:49,684 --> 01:24:52,786
<i>and you're not sure what
the results are gonna be.</i>

1959
01:24:52,821 --> 01:24:55,823
<i>I got kind of very anxious
and nervous about it</i>

1960
01:24:55,857 --> 01:24:58,692
<i>just because I didn't
wanna have to be the one,</i>

1961
01:24:58,726 --> 01:25:02,496
<i>like, if he did reject
having contact with me.</i>

1962
01:25:02,530 --> 01:25:04,731
That for myself
would've been hard to handle,

1963
01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:08,669
but then also having to tell
all the other half-siblings,

1964
01:25:08,703 --> 01:25:10,871
<i>I didn't want to be
the one to, kind of,</i>

1965
01:25:10,905 --> 01:25:12,573
<i>break their hearts, in a sense,</i>

1966
01:25:12,607 --> 01:25:15,809
<i>especially those who
really do want to contact</i>

1967
01:25:15,877 --> 01:25:18,545
<i>the donor and end up
meeting him and everything.</i>

1968
01:25:18,580 --> 01:25:22,249
<i>And I don't know.
It was a lot of pressure.</i>

1969
01:25:22,283 --> 01:25:24,518
<i>It's not that I didn't want to</i>

1970
01:25:24,552 --> 01:25:27,354
<i>because I did,</i>

1971
01:25:27,388 --> 01:25:29,556
but I don't know,

1972
01:25:29,591 --> 01:25:31,525
I'm just comfortable
with my life.

1973
01:25:37,432 --> 01:25:40,901
[crickets chirping]

1974
01:25:40,935 --> 01:25:43,170
[Sadie]<i> All right.</i>
<i>So right now, I just got, um,</i>

1975
01:25:43,204 --> 01:25:44,838
an email from the Cryobank

1976
01:25:44,873 --> 01:25:47,908
that's forwarding
the information

1977
01:25:47,942 --> 01:25:49,510
my donor applied to, um,

1978
01:25:49,544 --> 01:25:51,545
because I wrote in
when I turned 18

1979
01:25:51,579 --> 01:25:53,080
about a month ago.

1980
01:25:53,114 --> 01:25:55,482
Um, to see if he wanted contact,

1981
01:25:55,517 --> 01:25:57,251
so, um, right now

1982
01:25:57,285 --> 01:26:00,254
I'm gonna go open the email.

1983
01:26:00,288 --> 01:26:02,789
It's almost 12:30 AM.

1984
01:26:04,025 --> 01:26:05,025
All right.

1985
01:26:07,295 --> 01:26:08,795
There's a photo.

1986
01:26:15,136 --> 01:26:17,404
He said he loves
my funky dreads.

1987
01:26:19,941 --> 01:26:21,875
He said, "There's not a day
that I do not think"

1988
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:23,944
about you and your siblings.

1989
01:26:23,978 --> 01:26:26,747
I have had many nights
with little sleep pondering

1990
01:26:26,781 --> 01:26:28,549
and considering your lives.

1991
01:26:28,583 --> 01:26:30,117
The answers I have found
have made me feel

1992
01:26:30,151 --> 01:26:32,252
incredibly touched,
thankful, and proud.

1993
01:26:32,287 --> 01:26:34,321
I'm grateful that
for whatever reason

1994
01:26:34,355 --> 01:26:36,056
and from whatever
I gather so far,

1995
01:26:36,090 --> 01:26:37,925
that people that chose
to have you appear

1996
01:26:37,959 --> 01:26:40,561
to have done a great job.

1997
01:26:40,595 --> 01:26:42,629
Right now, I feel deeply
appreciated for this

1998
01:26:42,664 --> 01:26:44,798
opportunity to learn of your...

1999
01:26:44,832 --> 01:26:46,934
Of you and your wanting
to know more about me.

2000
01:26:46,968 --> 01:26:48,635
Thank you for sharing
your picture, information,

2001
01:26:48,670 --> 01:26:49,937
"and questions."

2002
01:26:52,574 --> 01:26:55,075
He's so nice.

2003
01:26:55,109 --> 01:26:57,911
The response really has
exceeded my expectations.

2004
01:26:57,946 --> 01:26:59,379
He sent so much.

2005
01:26:59,414 --> 01:27:02,849
I sent maybe like
10 short questions

2006
01:27:02,884 --> 01:27:06,386
and he's responded with
in-depth paragraphs

2007
01:27:06,421 --> 01:27:08,522
that are really thoughtful

2008
01:27:08,556 --> 01:27:11,625
and just seems like

2009
01:27:11,659 --> 01:27:14,728
it comes from the heart
and he's truly interested

2010
01:27:14,762 --> 01:27:16,630
and wants to share
the information,

2011
01:27:16,664 --> 01:27:17,998
which is nice.

2012
01:27:18,032 --> 01:27:19,266
He's not just doing it

2013
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:22,469
to answer some questions
and please me.

2014
01:27:22,503 --> 01:27:26,240
He seems to want to share
and want to connect a bit.

2015
01:27:27,642 --> 01:27:30,677
All of a sudden, I get this
text from Sadie.

2016
01:27:30,712 --> 01:27:33,647
Do you want to see
pictures of the donor?

2017
01:27:33,681 --> 01:27:35,716
I was just, like, out
to dinner with my grandparents

2018
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:37,184
and then started to text me

2019
01:27:37,218 --> 01:27:38,619
and I was just, like,
"Oh, my gosh.

2020
01:27:38,653 --> 01:27:40,153
What's going on?"

2021
01:27:40,188 --> 01:27:41,855
And they're like,
"Mattie, get off the phone."

2022
01:27:41,889 --> 01:27:43,790
I'm like, "I can't,
I can't get off my phone,

2023
01:27:43,825 --> 01:27:45,225
you don't understand."

2024
01:27:45,260 --> 01:27:47,861
I screamed and shut the computer

2025
01:27:47,895 --> 01:27:49,796
and ran to my room.

2026
01:27:49,831 --> 01:27:51,965
That's my dad.

2027
01:27:52,033 --> 01:27:54,368
<i>My mom had just pulled out
of the driveway</i>

2028
01:27:54,402 --> 01:27:57,137
<i>and it was like,
"Mom, come back."</i>

2029
01:27:57,171 --> 01:27:59,006
But she got back
and I was, like, crying

2030
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,607
and holding my phone
and she was, like,

2031
01:28:00,642 --> 01:28:02,442
"What's wrong?" And I was like,

2032
01:28:02,477 --> 01:28:04,911
- "Here."
- Come on.

2033
01:28:04,946 --> 01:28:06,713
Oh, my God.

2034
01:28:06,748 --> 01:28:08,548
[Daniel] It's, like, so surreal,

2035
01:28:08,583 --> 01:28:11,885
like, it's hard to think that...

2036
01:28:11,919 --> 01:28:15,589
This is the person
that I have been hunting

2037
01:28:15,623 --> 01:28:18,091
and wondering about
for my whole life.

2038
01:28:18,126 --> 01:28:20,894
I had school today
and I didn't go. [laughs]

2039
01:28:20,928 --> 01:28:23,463
I was too, like, emotionally,
like, paralyzed

2040
01:28:23,498 --> 01:28:25,766
to do any
of my homework or study.

2041
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,068
I don't think it's still,
like, hit me yet,

2042
01:28:28,102 --> 01:28:30,937
but every single time
I say it, I start to cry.

2043
01:28:30,972 --> 01:28:33,240
It doesn't seem real.

2044
01:28:33,274 --> 01:28:35,842
Sadie, she sends them
and I couldn't look at them,

2045
01:28:35,877 --> 01:28:37,778
so I gave it
to my friends and they...

2046
01:28:37,812 --> 01:28:39,379
And I sat
on the other side of them

2047
01:28:39,414 --> 01:28:41,181
and, like, they were all
lined up on the couch

2048
01:28:41,215 --> 01:28:43,583
in this dorm and I was, like,

2049
01:28:43,618 --> 01:28:45,052
"Can you look at them?"

2050
01:28:45,086 --> 01:28:46,253
And they were like, "Yeah."

2051
01:28:46,287 --> 01:28:47,254
And so I gave them the phone

2052
01:28:47,288 --> 01:28:49,456
and they're, like,

2053
01:28:49,490 --> 01:28:52,125
"He's hot." [laughs]

2054
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,095
I showed my friends today
at basketball

2055
01:28:55,129 --> 01:28:56,930
and they're like,
"Wow. Like, that's you.

2056
01:28:56,964 --> 01:28:58,665
Like, you look
exactly like him."

2057
01:28:58,733 --> 01:29:00,667
I wished me and him
looked more alike

2058
01:29:00,702 --> 01:29:03,136
because I don't really see
any features that we share.

2059
01:29:03,171 --> 01:29:05,772
Some of the other boys
look a lot like him.

2060
01:29:05,807 --> 01:29:08,175
Our noses are, like,
exactly the same.

2061
01:29:08,209 --> 01:29:09,910
Literally, if you Photoshopped

2062
01:29:09,944 --> 01:29:12,179
all of our faces
into one person.

2063
01:29:12,213 --> 01:29:13,580
Like, it just makes sense,

2064
01:29:13,614 --> 01:29:15,282
like, everything
makes sense now.

2065
01:29:15,316 --> 01:29:17,984
I won't have to wonder anymore.

2066
01:29:18,019 --> 01:29:19,419
Like, I don't look
at a guy and be like,

2067
01:29:19,454 --> 01:29:20,654
"Oh, you could be my dad."

2068
01:29:20,688 --> 01:29:23,023
Like I know what he looks like.

2069
01:29:23,057 --> 01:29:26,326
[dramatic music playing]

2070
01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:28,962
[Alexis]<i> Turning 18 was like</i>
<i>the most anticipated birthday</i>

2071
01:29:28,996 --> 01:29:30,664
<i>of my entire life because I knew</i>

2072
01:29:30,698 --> 01:29:31,965
<i>I was able to possibly</i>

2073
01:29:32,033 --> 01:29:33,500
<i>come in contact with the donor.</i>

2074
01:29:33,534 --> 01:29:35,502
<i>When I got the email
from the Cryobank,</i>

2075
01:29:35,536 --> 01:29:38,271
<i>there was like an attachment,
and that attachment</i>

2076
01:29:38,306 --> 01:29:40,073
<i>was the letter
from the donor to me.</i>

2077
01:29:40,108 --> 01:29:42,509
What he had saved it as was,

2078
01:29:42,543 --> 01:29:44,411
"To Alexis."

2079
01:29:44,445 --> 01:29:47,748
And that already had me,
like, this.

2080
01:29:47,782 --> 01:29:50,517
<i>One of the most impactful
things that he said</i>

2081
01:29:50,551 --> 01:29:53,487
<i>in his letter was, "I think
about you every day."</i>

2082
01:29:53,521 --> 01:29:54,955
I don't know how to explain

2083
01:29:54,989 --> 01:29:58,191
how I felt about that in words.

2084
01:29:58,226 --> 01:30:01,161
It meant so much to me

2085
01:30:01,195 --> 01:30:02,829
that he said that.

2086
01:30:02,864 --> 01:30:04,598
<i>Three days later I was in class</i>

2087
01:30:04,632 --> 01:30:07,100
<i>and I just broke down
completely.</i>

2088
01:30:07,135 --> 01:30:08,769
And I think it was just this...

2089
01:30:08,803 --> 01:30:11,738
Like a realization
and processing of, like,

2090
01:30:11,773 --> 01:30:13,740
not just that
he had contacted me

2091
01:30:13,775 --> 01:30:15,242
but what that meant

2092
01:30:15,276 --> 01:30:18,845
and all of the emotions
behind that.

2093
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,115
I was really just blown away.

2094
01:30:22,150 --> 01:30:24,918
I mean, I could almost
feel like a physical,

2095
01:30:24,952 --> 01:30:27,020
uh, something, you know.

2096
01:30:27,054 --> 01:30:30,957
I mean, it was just
so incredible,

2097
01:30:30,992 --> 01:30:33,593
incredible to meet this person

2098
01:30:33,628 --> 01:30:36,163
because I felt,
like, I was meeting him

2099
01:30:36,197 --> 01:30:37,431
even though, you know,

2100
01:30:37,465 --> 01:30:39,399
there was no name
attached to it.

2101
01:30:39,467 --> 01:30:42,736
Um, and I still...
I still can't get over it.

2102
01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:44,571
I felt like Javier
was really happy for me

2103
01:30:44,605 --> 01:30:45,939
because he knew
that it was something

2104
01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:47,908
that I've wanted
for a really long time.

2105
01:30:47,942 --> 01:30:49,309
He's kind of shy
about expressing

2106
01:30:49,343 --> 01:30:51,778
his emotions
but he can be very sweet.

2107
01:30:51,813 --> 01:30:54,014
Um, so he just kind of
ruffled my head

2108
01:30:54,048 --> 01:30:56,450
and he's like [speaking Spanish]

2109
01:30:56,484 --> 01:30:58,418
which means, like, "Oh,
you found your dad, huh?"

2110
01:30:58,453 --> 01:31:00,520
This is something that is you...

2111
01:31:00,555 --> 01:31:03,824
As a human being,
you need to have this.

2112
01:31:03,858 --> 01:31:05,592
And I think I see Alexis
also, like,

2113
01:31:05,626 --> 01:31:08,495
before, she was more,
you know, anxious

2114
01:31:08,529 --> 01:31:10,497
to see what was gonna happen

2115
01:31:10,531 --> 01:31:12,165
because she had to be 18,
but now that...

2116
01:31:12,233 --> 01:31:14,901
like this, a lot of relief.

2117
01:31:14,936 --> 01:31:18,371
And if she's relieved
we are relieved for sure.

2118
01:31:18,406 --> 01:31:20,574
I think, uh, before I turned 18,

2119
01:31:20,608 --> 01:31:22,409
a lot of my frustration

2120
01:31:22,443 --> 01:31:25,378
lied in not necessarily
not knowing who the donor was

2121
01:31:25,413 --> 01:31:27,047
but not knowing whether
I would ever know

2122
01:31:27,081 --> 01:31:29,082
who the donor was,
so the uncertainty.

2123
01:31:29,116 --> 01:31:33,653
Honestly, I've always had
a little bit of self-doubt,

2124
01:31:33,688 --> 01:31:36,022
<i>"Did I make a selfish decision</i>

2125
01:31:36,057 --> 01:31:38,925
<i>by choosing to have her
by myself?"</i>

2126
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,430
<i>And I think that this
has brought her so much joy</i>

2127
01:31:43,464 --> 01:31:46,800
and also validation
that I don't think

2128
01:31:46,834 --> 01:31:50,403
<i>I'm gonna feel that
as frequently as I have.</i>

2129
01:31:52,406 --> 01:31:54,841
[Alexis]<i> So I wrote</i>
<i>the donor back and this is</i>

2130
01:31:54,876 --> 01:31:57,811
<i>how I ended my letter to him,</i>

2131
01:31:57,845 --> 01:32:00,213
"I'm also very happy
to be in contact with you."

2132
01:32:00,248 --> 01:32:02,282
It does feel very unreal
as it is something

2133
01:32:02,316 --> 01:32:03,984
that has always seemed
like a very far way

2134
01:32:04,018 --> 01:32:05,619
and uncertain thing.

2135
01:32:05,653 --> 01:32:07,454
I have of course wondered
and thought about you

2136
01:32:07,488 --> 01:32:09,122
and your family every day

2137
01:32:09,156 --> 01:32:10,457
for as long as I can remember.

2138
01:32:10,491 --> 01:32:12,392
So your response means a lot.

2139
01:32:12,426 --> 01:32:13,894
Like you've hoped,
your being a donor

2140
01:32:13,928 --> 01:32:16,229
has for sure resulted
many happy families.

2141
01:32:16,264 --> 01:32:18,164
Meeting these families,
and my brothers and sisters,

2142
01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:19,633
has brought
a whole lot of friendship,

2143
01:32:19,667 --> 01:32:22,435
love, and support
into all of our lives.

2144
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:26,473
I feel very grateful as do
my siblings and their parents.

2145
01:32:26,507 --> 01:32:28,875
"Looking forward
to our next correspondence."

2146
01:32:28,910 --> 01:32:31,912
[dramatic music playing]

2147
01:32:33,748 --> 01:32:36,750
[birds chirping]

2148
01:32:50,798 --> 01:32:54,234
[man]<i> Today's date</i>
<i>is November 3rd, 2017.</i>

2149
01:32:54,268 --> 01:32:57,270
<i>This is Donor 5114.</i>

2150
01:32:57,305 --> 01:32:58,872
<i>My being a donor
has been on my mind</i>

2151
01:32:58,906 --> 01:33:00,574
<i>through the years.</i>

2152
01:33:00,608 --> 01:33:03,510
<i>As a donor, you have
an opportunity to ponder</i>

2153
01:33:03,544 --> 01:33:06,012
<i>and to care about something</i>

2154
01:33:06,047 --> 01:33:08,315
<i>that is going to exist</i>

2155
01:33:08,349 --> 01:33:11,718
<i>that is out of your control.</i>

2156
01:33:11,752 --> 01:33:14,554
<i>The decision for me
to become an anonymous donor</i>

2157
01:33:14,589 --> 01:33:17,057
<i>was out of respect
to the parents.</i>

2158
01:33:17,091 --> 01:33:19,993
<i>I felt, like,
removing me as a variable</i>

2159
01:33:20,027 --> 01:33:22,829
<i>would help parents
to create a nurturing</i>

2160
01:33:22,863 --> 01:33:26,433
<i>and stable environment
without any distractions.</i>

2161
01:33:26,467 --> 01:33:29,502
<i>But I certainly was hopeful</i>

2162
01:33:29,537 --> 01:33:31,605
<i>that I would get information</i>

2163
01:33:31,639 --> 01:33:33,607
<i>and learn as much as I could</i>

2164
01:33:33,641 --> 01:33:35,175
<i>about how they were all doing.</i>

2165
01:33:35,209 --> 01:33:36,776
<i>I think if I hadn't,</i>

2166
01:33:36,811 --> 01:33:39,412
<i>it would probably
start eating at me.</i>

2167
01:33:41,248 --> 01:33:44,317
<i>It's hard to imagine
being the genetic half</i>

2168
01:33:44,352 --> 01:33:46,019
<i>to so many people.</i>

2169
01:33:46,053 --> 01:33:47,954
<i>People that are related to you</i>

2170
01:33:47,989 --> 01:33:49,789
<i>in a significant way</i>

2171
01:33:49,824 --> 01:33:52,225
<i>after not knowing them ever</i>

2172
01:33:52,259 --> 01:33:54,995
<i>in person
for much of their life.</i>

2173
01:33:55,029 --> 01:33:58,331
<i>I've given some thought
to what it might be like</i>

2174
01:33:58,366 --> 01:34:01,434
<i>for some of the offspring
to have the curiosity</i>

2175
01:34:01,469 --> 01:34:05,005
<i>about who their
biological father might be.</i>

2176
01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:07,007
<i>That's really one big reason</i>

2177
01:34:07,041 --> 01:34:08,508
<i>why I'm participating in this,</i>

2178
01:34:08,542 --> 01:34:11,511
<i>is so that I can help them</i>

2179
01:34:11,545 --> 01:34:13,279
<i>finally deal
with those questions,</i>

2180
01:34:13,314 --> 01:34:16,883
<i>uh, and have answers
to those questions.</i>

2181
01:34:16,917 --> 01:34:19,185
<i>I would love to meet
each of the kids,</i>

2182
01:34:19,220 --> 01:34:21,588
<i>you know, I think it would be
a really neat experience.</i>

2183
01:34:21,622 --> 01:34:23,023
<i>I'm very curious to meet them</i>

2184
01:34:23,057 --> 01:34:26,226
<i>and to learn
from their experiences</i>

2185
01:34:26,260 --> 01:34:27,761
<i>and to see how things are going.</i>

2186
01:34:27,795 --> 01:34:32,165
<i>And the best part
of being a donor so far</i>

2187
01:34:32,233 --> 01:34:34,567
<i>is knowing that I helped people</i>

2188
01:34:34,602 --> 01:34:37,270
<i>and knowing that people
that really wanted</i>

2189
01:34:37,304 --> 01:34:40,340
<i>to have a family
were able to have a family.</i>

2190
01:34:40,374 --> 01:34:43,076
<i>So my wife and I are going
through this together.</i>

2191
01:34:43,110 --> 01:34:45,412
<i>I'm looking forward
to all of the experiences</i>

2192
01:34:45,446 --> 01:34:48,214
<i>that can be shared.
The answers I've found</i>

2193
01:34:48,249 --> 01:34:50,283
<i>have made me feel
incredibly touched,</i>

2194
01:34:50,317 --> 01:34:52,919
<i>thankful, and proud.</i>

2195
01:34:58,759 --> 01:35:01,828
[birds chirping]

2196
01:35:19,780 --> 01:35:23,183
[Nathan]<i> If I never connected</i>
<i>with any of the siblings,</i>

2197
01:35:23,217 --> 01:35:25,351
<i>I think my life
would be a lot different.</i>

2198
01:35:25,386 --> 01:35:26,920
<i>I think as a person,</i>

2199
01:35:26,954 --> 01:35:29,756
<i>I'd still be relatively the same</i>

2200
01:35:29,790 --> 01:35:31,691
<i>but I would definitely
be missing out</i>

2201
01:35:31,726 --> 01:35:34,260
<i>on some great relationships
and bonds with people</i>

2202
01:35:34,295 --> 01:35:36,529
<i>that you can't really
get any other way.</i>

2203
01:35:39,433 --> 01:35:41,101
[Danny]<i> Growing up like</i>
<i>when you're in middle school</i>

2204
01:35:41,135 --> 01:35:43,303
<i>and high school,
having people that</i>

2205
01:35:43,337 --> 01:35:45,238
<i>you can relate to
and fall back on,</i>

2206
01:35:45,272 --> 01:35:48,475
<i>it just really
has created such an amazing</i>

2207
01:35:48,509 --> 01:35:50,009
<i>support system for me.</i>

2208
01:35:50,044 --> 01:35:51,644
<i>And I don't know,</i>

2209
01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:53,646
<i>I just don't think
I question myself</i>

2210
01:35:53,681 --> 01:35:55,615
<i>as much as I used to.</i>

2211
01:35:57,485 --> 01:35:58,985
[Mattie]
<i>Through the whole process,</i>

2212
01:35:59,019 --> 01:36:01,421
<i>it was just mostly like
a self-discovery,</i>

2213
01:36:01,455 --> 01:36:04,357
<i>like, all of the things
that I went through</i>

2214
01:36:04,391 --> 01:36:05,825
<i>and the people that I met,</i>

2215
01:36:05,860 --> 01:36:08,595
<i>it helped lead me
to who I am now.</i>

2216
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:10,396
<i>I've learned to be more curious</i>

2217
01:36:10,431 --> 01:36:11,731
<i>and to not push the limits</i>

2218
01:36:11,766 --> 01:36:13,266
<i>but test it a little.</i>

2219
01:36:15,002 --> 01:36:17,737
[Neylan]<i> This experience</i>
<i>has thought me that</i>

2220
01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:19,739
<i>your family is more than like</i>

2221
01:36:19,774 --> 01:36:22,742
<i>who is right there with you
all the time.</i>

2222
01:36:22,777 --> 01:36:24,511
<i>And you can feel close
to somebody</i>

2223
01:36:24,545 --> 01:36:27,647
<i>that lives in Alaska or,
like, across the country</i>

2224
01:36:27,681 --> 01:36:29,716
<i>from you or wherever they are.</i>

2225
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:31,151
<i>It's just how you choose</i>

2226
01:36:31,185 --> 01:36:34,387
<i>to build that relationship.</i>

2227
01:36:34,421 --> 01:36:38,024
[Alexis]<i> To my younger self,</i>
<i>I would say</i>

2228
01:36:38,058 --> 01:36:39,926
<i>you can come into this world mad</i>

2229
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,228
<i>about how you were conceived</i>

2230
01:36:42,263 --> 01:36:44,664
<i>but you also have to realize</i>

2231
01:36:44,698 --> 01:36:47,200
<i>that you function
completely independently</i>

2232
01:36:47,234 --> 01:36:48,802
<i>from any of those other factors</i>

2233
01:36:48,836 --> 01:36:50,537
<i>and that you are your own person</i>

2234
01:36:50,571 --> 01:36:52,405
<i>and that it does not matter.</i>

2235
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,207
<i>At the end of the day,</i>

2236
01:36:54,241 --> 01:36:56,910
you're still you, and it's okay.

2237
01:36:56,944 --> 01:37:00,013
[dramatic music playing]

2238
01:37:12,426 --> 01:37:15,461
[dramatic music playing]



