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Well, first of all,
good evening, everyone.

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Hi, what's up?

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We have to...
Let's introduce yourselves, right?

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We've met you,
but they don't know you out there.

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I'm Joaquín and I play bass.

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I'm Juan and I play guitar.

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I'm Enrique and I sing.

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And I'm Pedro.

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We would like everybody
could enjoy listening to

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Héroes del Silencio.

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We would hate to become a teenage band
or a band for folks in their forties,

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for the underground or
avant-garde culture, or whatever.

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We would love to reach
all kind of audiences.

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We would definitely hate
to be a stereotype.

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Which genre best
describes your music?

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We haven't decided
which style we're playing yet.

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Anyway, it's kind of soon, right?

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When we release six or seven albums,
we'll know our style...

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Maybe we don't have a clear idea
of what we are, right?

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What kind of band we are.

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Maybe there's a lack
of national awareness about us.

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How were Héroes del Silencio formed?

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Just like many other bands,

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we joined and started recording
our own demos, sending videos to...

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record labels, hoping
to secure a contract in Madrid,

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as Zaragoza is a little difficult.

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Do you think...

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do you think you are "Héroes"?

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ZARAGOZA 1984
SPRING

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Dust or fog, wind and sun,

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a city surrounded by a desert,

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unaware of the cultural explosion
in the main cities of Spain.

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In principle, not the best place
to be a rock star,

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but something is changing in Zaragoza,

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where more than 50 local
Aragon bands have registered

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for an unprecedented event in the city.

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The first Pop, Rock and other styles
Fair of Zaragoza is finally open.

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Over 25 000 youngsters
have enjoyed, for three days,

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of the so-called "zaragoza's movida".

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A real cultural catharsis
in a hostile land for rock,

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where young dreamers seek...

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One of the highlights of the Fair
was the demos and independent

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records sales.

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Young companies
challenge multinational labels...

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Of course I remember.
In the 1984 Fair I presented

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Proceso Entrópico.

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There were posters all over the city
and we read "Zumo de Vidrio".

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Each of us was performing
in different bands.

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For a couple of days,
I played with Edición Fría

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and Tres de ellos.

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And Pedro, with Los Modos.

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No, I wasn't there,
I was too young.

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This can help to create
quite an interesting scene

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here in Zaragoza,
not just in Madrid and Barcelona.

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Time will tell who are the best,

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but there is will and enthusiasm,
there's something for everyone.

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For the first time, Zaragoza shows
that something powerful is happening.

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Everybody thinks that
the Fair has been a positive experience,

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definitely.

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MUSIC CRITIC

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Matías Uribe writes in his newspaper
that Zumo de Vidrio were good.

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Well, that was...

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ZUMO DE VIDRIO,
IN OUR VIEW, WERE THE BEST

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That's amazing.

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He said "good", but we were shit.

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I was first introduced to Juan

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in a bar in Zaragoza
which was called Los Navarros.

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Someone in there told me:

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Juan plays in a band
called Zumo de Vidrio.

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They were looking for a bassist,
and I said I'd go to a rehearsal.

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So there I was,
with my amp and my bass.

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After a few days,

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the band's singer, who was
Juan's cousin, didn't show up.

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So... while we were waiting,

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I started playing a song
by David Bowie.

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I stared at him and thought
"this guy can sing."

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I saw it so clearly.

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Then I told him,

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we have to start a real band, seriously.

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We were so young
and had so many projects,

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as we thought we had
to shoot at many targets, right?

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To get both the musicians
and the music.

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One day, we got this cassette player,

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a radio cassette player,
we put a tape in, and directly...

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HÉROE DE LEYENDA
FIRST DEMO 1984

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We gave the tape to Cachi,
from Radio Zaragoza.

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"We are a band from Zaragoza,"
and he gave me that look and goes...

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As if to say "Maybe I'll listen."

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But one or two days later,

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I tune in to El Selector
at 3 o'clock and there he goes...

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With this song by Héroes del Silencio
we come to the end of the show.

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Greetings from Cachi.
Hugs and kisses, goodbye!

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And that's the happiest
day of my life.

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When we had to speak
on the radio for the first time

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we decided we would
be named after the song.

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So Héroe de Leyenda,

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you were saying it's kind
of a hymn for the band, isn't it?

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Do you talk about
what you really are?

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FIRST INTERVIEW, RADIO ZARAGOZA
BUNBURY'S VOICE

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Yes, Héroe de Leyenda
was first called Héroes del Silencio,

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and that's our name.

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The song talks about
what our name really means.

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Singing was a bit by chance, but...

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with this change,
from bassist to singer,

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I started enjoying writing
the lyrics of the songs.

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I discovered what being
the front man was like,

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but that was gradually.
At first I was just a bassist-singer

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and was kind of
tied to the mike stand.

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Eventually, we decided

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to look for a bass player so
I could be freer in the stage.

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We rehearsed
in the studio next door.

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We saw each other
after rehearsal or in the bar,

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having a coffee or whatever.

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They already had some work, a repertoire.

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Their songs sounded
better than what we did...

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Edición Fría played
many covers of The Cure and...

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we had some good songs,
but I was the singer.

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Nothing special...

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I realised I could make it,
recording an album,

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touring and giving bigger concerts.

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Pedro, Juan's brother,
was focused on his studies

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of Medicine and wanted
to fully commit to it,

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so we needed a drummer.

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I started listening to them
on Cachi's radio show, El Selector.

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And soon after that,
they needed a drummer.

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I was around, amazed
at how they practiced,

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while I played with Modos.

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"So you play the drums?
Come, sit and play."

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I sat and thought:
"Oh my goodness! My God!"

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So I played, I played.

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They were really committed, and soon
they dropped school to focus

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solely on their music.
They worked hard.

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RADIOCADENA FESTIVAL
SALAMANCA 1986

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Salamanca is currently
the capital of pop.

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The 26th edition
of Radiocadena takes now place.

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This year, it is dedicated
to pop music for the first time.

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There was a band contest
at a national level in Spain.

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We got there, we got a hotel,
TV journalists all around us...

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And when we were
about to play, I told Cachi:

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"Hey, man, give me your clothes,
you look like an alien."

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So I went out dressed as...
Who knows.

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It's been a highly
competitive Festival,

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with 429 participants.

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Then, there was a vote
from people from every city.

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We got to the semi-final,
and we finished in second place.

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According to Matías,
the contest was rigged.

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Matías wrote an article
for El Heraldo sounding off

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about us not winning.

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Man, I was pissed off...

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It's been fixed!
It's been fixed!

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They were not watching the bands,
they were eating and drinking.

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MUSIC JOURNALIST

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They were at a restaurant,
in a balcony facing the stage,

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far away, on the opposite side.

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That's where the judges were.

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They couldn't care less.

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At that moment,
we saw it as a defeat,

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but we were second best!

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That was better than most
of Spanish artists at Eurovision.

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As we didn't win, we came back home
and said "let's win the next edition."

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That didn't happen, either,
but we made every effort...

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to be there.

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We were stronger
cause we wanted more.

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1.- ENRIQUE BUNBURY
(SINGER, BASS, CHORUS)

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JUAN VALDIVIA (GUITARS, SYNTHS)
PEDRO VALDIVIA (DRUMS)

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Was it hard to get this far?
Was it difficult?

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For a band like yours,
coming from Aragon, right?

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Yes, it's kind of difficult,
as we are not from Madrid.

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It's hard because
there are no talent scouts

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or spotters, right?

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No one looks for
new demos in other cities,

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no one wants to look for
new bands outside Madrid.

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Spanish pop was very soft,
the lyrics...

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MUSIC PRODUCER

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I was part of it.
I was in Olé Olé...

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I wanted to diversify my career,

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so I suggested
collaborating with Roberto.

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MUSIC PRODUCER

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"Let's produce something together."

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"I've never been a producer."
"Me neither, but I'm a lucky guy."

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"I found this band from Zaragoza
that you will probably like."

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I listened to a record with four
or five songs at home.

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But I wasn't impressed.

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"They must have something,
I don't know."

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"Let's listen to them again."

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So we listened again,
cause they told us

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that this band
from Zaragoza was real good.

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I got many calls
from Enrique and Juan.

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They invited me to a concert
in Zaragoza, at Sala en Bruto.

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So we went to Zaragoza.

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And I was first impressed...

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ZARAGOZA, 1987
SALA EN BRUTO

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...seeing people
fighting over a ticket.

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A Zaragoza band?
How's this possible?

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Roberto and I liked them very much.

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We went to the dressing rooms...

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...to talk to them
and tell them a huge whopper.

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"I'll try to get you a contract,"
he told us this and that.

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He made us drool.

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I had quite an experience
as an artist so I knew

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the steps you must follow
to become an artist.

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They wanted to be there.

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It took us so long.

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Different record labels
than mine wouldn't care about us.

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They said:
"What's this? This is not..."

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At that time,
the trend was techno-pop.

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They told me that
guitar bands were outdated.

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Poligram said at that time:
"They're too soft, too weird."

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Warner:
"They're just like La Unión."

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The CBS wouldn't care about us,
other companies...

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Not even small companies.

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Actually, no one cared about us.
No one.

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Finally, a year later, I went to EMI,
to the president of my company.

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And said: "Rafa, help me out,
you have to record this."

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"You first record a single, a maxi.
Record a maxi-single if you want."

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"If you sell over 5000 copies,
I'll give you a decent contract."

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The budget I got was way too low.
Just imagine!

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We were allowed to record
for one or two evenings

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after that band
working for Hispavox at the time.

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"OK, go to the studio."
And there I found Cantores de Híspalis.

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Once that band finished recording...
Los Marismeños.

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We had to rush into the studio,
get the equipment ready,

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record at full speed...

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Fortunately, I hired...

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I was lucky to hire
an English engineer

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called Steve Taylor,
who came from London.

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He worked there.

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The first thing Steve said was...

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And I said...

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I told him:
"Steve, do your job and shut up."

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But what if it didn't work...

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If we didn't reach that amount,
they would send us back home.

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We actually went on
a long support tour.

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We played in clubs in Valencia...

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We toured all over Spain
visiting radio studios,

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local and regional TVs...

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Héroes del Silencio is one of the most
promising bands of Zaragoza's pop.

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They participated in
several regional contests

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and finally they had their
own album with their songs.

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We went to TV studios,
to some shit shows,

243
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and some decent shows,
but we were there.

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They are fresh and young.

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They are Héroes del Silencio!

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We played here and there.
In some shit venues, but we were there.

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This new band
has an English pop-rock style...

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Héroe de Leyenda sounded
in every station in Spain.

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The company said:

250
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"Change the cover photo immediately,

251
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it's too dark,
they need to look handsome."

252
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On one side,
that raised the sales even more

253
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and on the other side, the critics...

254
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were more protected.

255
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They said we were a hoax,
that we would fade away,

256
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that we were a summer hit.

257
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Thinking about
what would happen later

258
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was a gradual process.

259
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We were dealing with
what we faced at the time.

260
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I think that fate determined
that things went well.

261
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Of course we sold over 5000 copies.

262
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We sold 30 000 copies or so.

263
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The record label believed in us

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because we sold five times
what they demanded.

265
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And then, they looked at me
in a different way at EMI.

266
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They said:
"Hey, they were not so bad."

267
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Montesanos and all of us,

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Cachi, too, of course,

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we knew that they had
an enormous talent

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to leave Zaragoza as a band.

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It was our bet,
a bet on rock & roll.

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MADRID 1988
SPRING

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How are we doing this morning?

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Perfect.

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-You?
-Hell yeah.

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You?

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The record label said:

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"Let's offer these guys
a real contract."

279
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They asked if we were willing
to move to Madrid,

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and we said no.

281
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They had strong roots in Zaragoza.
They wouldn't move.

282
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Maybe it was our natural pigheadedness.
We wanted to do things our way.

283
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Zaragoza.

284
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Next station: Calatayud.

285
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"Let's find them a manager.
We can't deal with this."

286
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So I took them to Pito.

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-Pito.
-Pito.

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-Pito...
-Pito.

289
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-Pito.
-Pito...

290
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Some call me Pito Planes
and others call me Pito Dreams.

291
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I remember I was in Gijón
listening to "Autosuficiencia"

292
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in a car, at a beach,
on a mountain...

293
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Drinking cider, probably.

294
00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:10.040
While listening to that song, I said:
"What are we doing here?"

295
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I established an office
with Alaska y los Pegamoides.

296
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Thanks to them, I got to know
what would be later called,

297
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don't know why, movida madrileña.

298
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Pito was the best at the time.

299
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He ran an agency called 10/Diez,
and it was the most important

300
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pop-rock artists
management agency at the time.

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Pito had Alaska...

302
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Gabinete...

303
00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:53.480
Loquillo...

304
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-Los Coyotes...
-Golpes Bajos...

305
00:22:55.760 --> 00:22:57.040
Lions in Love...

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Established artists.

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MUSIC JOURNALIST

308
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And he wanted to help
the band grow with the label,

309
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:05.640
with all the media around them.

310
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Did Pito have a good eye
when he signed Héroes?

311
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I don't know.

312
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I don't know why me,
why people love me.

313
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I think I come across things, really.

314
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Pito knew how to move
in the rock and pop underground,

315
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and he was respected.

316
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I don't know why, really.

317
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Maybe I look silly.

318
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Sometimes I think I'm very smart
and sometimes I think I'm stupid.

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Hope!

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MADRID JANUARY 1989
SALA YA'STA

321
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PRESENTATION TO EMI BOARD AND
MEDIA SOUND CHECK

322
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My first clear memory of Héroes

323
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was a performance
at 2 or 2.30 pm

324
00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:59.160
on a Tuesday...

325
00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:03.080
There was a lunch for the media,
and we played after dessert.

326
00:24:03.600 --> 00:24:06.280
Obviously, at that time
you don't get the best sound.

327
00:24:06.360 --> 00:24:09.120
Everybody's eating prawns
and drinking champagne...

328
00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.560
I guess this is not
the typical concert,

329
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:14.720
but we'd like
to introduce you to a band...

330
00:24:14.800 --> 00:24:18.080
Olvido and Loquillo came with me,

331
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.880
and they weren't sure if they liked
them or not, so they said:

332
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:27.200
"I don't quite know the band,
I'd need to listen to them again,

333
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.560
but I'm pretty sure there is
a rock star on that stage."

334
00:24:31.360 --> 00:24:35.400
So Pito called me and said:
"All right, I'll manage them."

335
00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.840
The next step was
to record an album, clearly.

336
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:43.280
We had the same problem
we had with the first maxi-single.

337
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.200
We recorded between Cantores
de Híspalis, Luz Casal, Mari Trini...

338
00:24:46.360 --> 00:24:48.760
We have a gap tonight,
can you come?

339
00:24:48.840 --> 00:24:49.720
Yes, right away!

340
00:24:59.280 --> 00:25:02.280
You're super nervous
in your first LP.

341
00:25:02.360 --> 00:25:04.520
Juan's hands were shaking.

342
00:25:05.040 --> 00:25:07.400
"Hey, Gustavo, wait a little longer."

343
00:25:07.800 --> 00:25:10.080
What Héroes think of their work is

344
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.280
"We could have done way better."

345
00:25:12.360 --> 00:25:15.880
We had mixed emotions
about the album.

346
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.440
The sound was too soft
for my liking.

347
00:25:18.600 --> 00:25:21.080
It didn't do justice
to the way we sounded live.

348
00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:27.560
There was a moment
when we woke up in the morning,

349
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:31.360
we went to the studio and checked
the arrangements they made that night.

350
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.760
Some trumpets in a song...

351
00:25:35.760 --> 00:25:38.160
Metal sounds by a synth.

352
00:25:38.520 --> 00:25:39.600
It was...

353
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:44.760
very tacky, no one in the group
really liked that.

354
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:46.920
It was kind of offensive.

355
00:25:47.280 --> 00:25:49.520
I can't remember. Trumpets...

356
00:25:50.120 --> 00:25:52.600
I went to the director's
office and said:

357
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:54.880
I'm off to Zaragoza,

358
00:25:55.040 --> 00:25:56.800
my recording career ends here.

359
00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.240
I'm not interested in this
if the trumpets don't go away.

360
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:02.320
He looked like a sea lion.

361
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:03.760
So they went away.

362
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:08.760
You need to sound pop.
A pop sound for radio format.

363
00:26:09.320 --> 00:26:12.360
That was the pressure
I was under: selling.

364
00:26:12.520 --> 00:26:15.480
I think that production,
so criticized back then,

365
00:26:15.560 --> 00:26:21.000
helped Héroes fit
in the national musical scene.

366
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.760
We might say it was appropriate

367
00:26:23.840 --> 00:26:27.960
because it got us on the radio
and helped us become known in Spain.

368
00:26:28.120 --> 00:26:32.040
You're a band with just one LP
but you have toured a lot.

369
00:26:32.120 --> 00:26:34.800
You've made some money!
Are you making a living with this?

370
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:36.840
FIRST NATIONAL INTERVIEW

371
00:26:37.280 --> 00:26:38.160
Scrape by...

372
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:42.000
Not yet, cause we are buying
the equipment

373
00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:43.880
for our tour next year.

374
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:48.120
Now we release the LP,
we'll give four times more concerts...

375
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.120
-Easy!
-The equipment...

376
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:51.640
Easy, boy!

377
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.840
Four times more is 130.

378
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.600
There are just two bands in Spain
that can do that, and that's crazy.

379
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.240
There's more than money.
There's your own life.

380
00:27:00.320 --> 00:27:02.000
Giving 130 concerts...

381
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.240
-Héroes del Silencio.
-That's this one.

382
00:27:04.320 --> 00:27:05.480
-Sure.
-This is...

383
00:27:05.560 --> 00:27:07.480
-That one.
-Cool.

384
00:27:07.560 --> 00:27:09.760
This one here is him.

385
00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:13.840
-This is Pedro.
-And who's he?

386
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.520
That's the singer, right?
You are the singer.

387
00:27:16.600 --> 00:27:18.720
Can we get an autograph?

388
00:27:18.800 --> 00:27:21.880
You had worked quite a lot before
being voted best new band of the year,

389
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.000
that's strange, right?

390
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.680
We had worked in Zaragoza,
in Aragon, mostly,

391
00:27:26.760 --> 00:27:28.560
for four or five years.

392
00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:33.360
So I think this has helped us
reach a national scale.

393
00:27:57.120 --> 00:28:00.520
Ladies and gentlemen, here they are:
Héroes del Silencio.

394
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.360
Yes, of course
it's lip sync on TV.

395
00:28:09.520 --> 00:28:11.080
All the shows were lip sync.

396
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.320
We had no choice.

397
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.920
Our constant fight was

398
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.400
not to have yellow drums...

399
00:28:17.560 --> 00:28:18.480
YOUNG BAND

400
00:28:18.560 --> 00:28:20.600
...not to have dancers
on the stage,

401
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.680
we had these fights every time.

402
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.560
We wanted to make clear
that our thing

403
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.840
was darkness and rock.

404
00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:38.880
So you go to some
TV shows and bang!

405
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.600
We were on the covers,
we started to be famous.

406
00:28:48.760 --> 00:28:52.000
Well, our band
quickly became famous.

407
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.240
Fame came all at once.

408
00:28:54.320 --> 00:28:56.760
Even the company was surprised.

409
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.360
Sure! The company was amazed.
They asked: "How?"

410
00:29:00.520 --> 00:29:04.680
They hit hard in Los 40,
and that changed everything.

411
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.880
Attention, please!
This week's number 1 goes to

412
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.240
these guys from Zaragoza.

413
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:13.520
Here you have Héroes del Silencio
and their "Flor Venenosa".

414
00:29:17.600 --> 00:29:22.760
The clean sound of the album
and the live concerts we gave

415
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.560
showed two faces of the band
that worked really well.

416
00:29:35.120 --> 00:29:39.440
No one can tell whether
something will success or not.

417
00:29:39.600 --> 00:29:40.960
There's no formula, right?

418
00:29:41.360 --> 00:29:43.840
People listened to it,
liked it and bought it.

419
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.240
And bought it, and bought it...

420
00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:50.400
Word of mouth
is very difficult to stop.

421
00:29:57.280 --> 00:30:00.680
They made something
completely different.

422
00:30:00.760 --> 00:30:03.680
In Spain, there wasn't...
anyone to compare them with, right?

423
00:30:03.840 --> 00:30:06.680
In Spain, when someone is doing well,

424
00:30:06.760 --> 00:30:09.320
draws attention
and is in the spotlight,

425
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:11.800
there are people who don't like it.

426
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.320
They faced a big disadvantage:

427
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.920
people said that
Enrique was handsome.

428
00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:21.480
It seemed wrong that we were
a serious band with 15-year-old fans.

429
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.360
So this was kind of...

430
00:30:23.520 --> 00:30:26.240
There was this kind
of trust from Madrid,

431
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.640
and if they didn't like it,

432
00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:30.280
namely Diego Manrique...

433
00:30:30.360 --> 00:30:31.520
MUSIC JOURNALIST

434
00:30:31.600 --> 00:30:33.560
...and I don't care
if he listens to this,

435
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.760
if they didn't give you
their blessing,

436
00:30:36.840 --> 00:30:38.400
you had nothing to do.

437
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:39.640
Let's see...

438
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:41.280
MUSIC JOURNALIST

439
00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:47.000
Critics, and that's part of their job,

440
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:54.120
are like those hermits
in the desert saying:

441
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.960
"you are all burning," and so on...

442
00:30:57.520 --> 00:30:59.840
So critics have the feeling,

443
00:31:00.320 --> 00:31:04.040
which is somehow real,
that they speak and no one listens.

444
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.040
So the fact that Héroes del Silencio
countered my criticisms

445
00:31:08.120 --> 00:31:12.480
was a way to justify
what they did, right?

446
00:31:12.800 --> 00:31:16.560
You've just played at a venue,
you travel 600 km,

447
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.760
and then you read the comments
that this guy had written.

448
00:31:19.840 --> 00:31:23.640
So you can't come back and respond to him.
How can I respond?

449
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:25.480
Saying it on the record.

450
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.160
The thing with Héroes del Silencio,
when you first listen to them,

451
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.040
the feeling,

452
00:31:30.120 --> 00:31:34.360
the first thing you think
is that they were a farce

453
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.800
or at least a band manipulated
by the record label.

454
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:42.120
Also, Gustavo
from Olé Olé was behind, etc.

455
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.880
If you came out from
a multinational, you were crap.

456
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.040
MUSIC PRODUCER

457
00:31:46.120 --> 00:31:49.480
Just for coming from...
Just for that, we were criticized.

458
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.600
And then, their image
in the first albums

459
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.920
gave the idea of what we'd call
a hairdresser's band, right?

460
00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:00.560
It was all very staged, a trick.

461
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.200
On top of that, the handsome singer
for teenage girls.

462
00:32:03.280 --> 00:32:06.120
They didn't even listen to them.

463
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.360
This is the question:

464
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:13.000
Over which side of the face
does the blonde hair of the singer

465
00:32:13.280 --> 00:32:15.280
of Héroes del Silencio fall?

466
00:32:18.280 --> 00:32:21.440
Some people were upset at
Enrique having blonde long hair...

467
00:32:22.600 --> 00:32:24.360
Well, what can I say?

468
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.040
If he had three legs,
I'd understand.

469
00:32:27.520 --> 00:32:31.480
Bunbury was like
a long-haired angel, right?

470
00:32:31.560 --> 00:32:36.320
He had the charisma
and the power to transform himself

471
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:41.440
when he was on stage,
arousing girls' passion.

472
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.080
Enrique's attitude on stage
was the target.

473
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:49.600
"We would love to flambé
the hair of Héroes singer with rum."

474
00:32:49.760 --> 00:32:51.720
Some people crossed a line with us.

475
00:32:51.800 --> 00:32:54.920
Yes, it annoyed us.
And it keeps annoying us.

476
00:32:55.560 --> 00:32:58.040
We were giving our lives.

477
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.920
They were sick of being called
soft, cheesy guys...

478
00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:07.920
At a certain point,

479
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.680
I remember Enrique
told me he wanted to quit.

480
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.200
Facing the second album
was a little scary,

481
00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:29.000
so we worked hard to overcome it.

482
00:33:29.080 --> 00:33:31.760
We were super ready
for the second album.

483
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:36.640
We're so excited at the possibilities
we had after meeting Phil Manzanera.

484
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:40.360
I had always been a Roxy Music fan,
so when he showed up

485
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.440
at one of our concerts,
it was like meeting a king.

486
00:33:44.600 --> 00:33:51.400
Pito talked to me about Héroes
and asked me to go see them

487
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:52.760
to Calatayud.

488
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:56.520
ZARAGOZA
CALATAYUD 1988

489
00:33:56.600 --> 00:33:57.920
So I went to see them.

490
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.400
I thought
"these guys are rock stars."

491
00:34:00.560 --> 00:34:02.360
MUSIC PRODUCER

492
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:06.480
They were all dressed in black,
even the audience dressed in black.

493
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.360
I looked at them,
looked at the audience,

494
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.480
and I felt they sounded amazing,

495
00:34:14.640 --> 00:34:16.680
So I knew they had a chance.

496
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:27.240
At the concert, we talked
and he said the magic words:

497
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.520
"I want to make you sound
like you do in a live show."

498
00:34:31.600 --> 00:34:36.160
It was the night
the First Gulf War started.

499
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.000
So I remember it.

500
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:41.360
And also...

501
00:34:42.640 --> 00:34:48.200
It was an important night for me.
When I got back to the hotel,

502
00:34:48.720 --> 00:34:51.280
I got a call saying
that my mother was dying.

503
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.520
So they asked me
if I could quickly come back.

504
00:34:54.600 --> 00:34:58.520
So I went to Barajas Airport

505
00:34:58.600 --> 00:35:01.920
and it was closed
because of the war,

506
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.440
as the Americans
had their planes there.

507
00:35:07.200 --> 00:35:11.440
So I arrived late and she died
when I got back to London.

508
00:35:11.520 --> 00:35:13.160
So that night...

509
00:35:16.160 --> 00:35:17.560
was an important one.

510
00:35:19.520 --> 00:35:22.160
Unfortunately,
you will never forget

511
00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:24.720
the night you met Héroes.

512
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:25.640
Héroes.

513
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.680
So it is a memory...

514
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.000
We were so happy,
because the studio...

515
00:35:46.080 --> 00:35:49.560
The studio had a console
from Abbey Road, an old one.

516
00:35:49.640 --> 00:35:51.960
There were only
six of those in the world.

517
00:35:52.120 --> 00:35:53.280
Fantastic.

518
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.520
If they played together,

519
00:35:55.600 --> 00:35:58.760
just as things were done
at the time, we could capture

520
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.400
their energy in the studio.

521
00:36:01.560 --> 00:36:05.720
They were able to give us
a sound that really represented us.

522
00:36:15.240 --> 00:36:16.920
The album was the real Héroes.

523
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.880
Basically, from my point of view,
cause there were little production,

524
00:36:20.040 --> 00:36:22.440
which is the best thing
a producer or a manager can do,

525
00:36:22.600 --> 00:36:24.240
don't do anything, I mean,

526
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.960
let the band do their stuff
and make them sound good,

527
00:36:28.120 --> 00:36:30.120
but not writing the songs
for the band.

528
00:36:30.560 --> 00:36:33.120
When we were recording,

529
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.560
they stopped for lunch and dinner.

530
00:36:35.640 --> 00:36:39.360
Here in England,
if you can have a sandwich

531
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.400
during the 12 hours
you're in the studio, you're lucky.

532
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.280
But they were like:
"Let's have dinner, or lunch."

533
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.560
And I thought:
"We're wasting so much time..."

534
00:36:50.720 --> 00:36:53.320
"This is very sociable, though."

535
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.040
It was completely different
to what I had done before.

536
00:36:57.720 --> 00:36:58.720
And I liked it.

537
00:36:59.120 --> 00:37:01.760
There was magic in there.

538
00:37:02.120 --> 00:37:04.640
Sometimes everything goes right.
Sometimes.

539
00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:08.840
Everything was right with that album,
then it didn't happen again...

540
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:10.840
Basically...

541
00:37:11.240 --> 00:37:14.920
It had something so simple,
which is this...

542
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:30.600
Then, this.

543
00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:42.920
It's very simple,
but I used an echo...

544
00:37:44.600 --> 00:37:49.400
I played this and it echoed.
So I let it sound...

545
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:50.560
Wow.

546
00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:53.720
Starting with the guitar,
with the echo...

547
00:37:54.240 --> 00:37:57.480
I said:
"Why didn't I think of that before?"

548
00:37:58.160 --> 00:37:59.720
It was so good.

549
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:01.760
We were making a song...

550
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:04.920
that got us fired up and...
was fucking great!

551
00:38:11.240 --> 00:38:14.560
"Entre dos Tierras" is the first single
by Héroes del Silencio!

552
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.960
In the first week after
the release of "Senderos de Traición",

553
00:38:21.040 --> 00:38:23.680
Héroes del Silencio have sold
over 100 000 records.

554
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.040
This is the biggest rise up by Héroes
del Silencio with "Senderos de Traición".

555
00:38:28.160 --> 00:38:31.640
The best-selling music band
in the national pop rock scene.

556
00:38:31.720 --> 00:38:36.000
Their LP "Senderos de Traición"
has beaten records in Spain.

557
00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:39.040
"Senderos de Traición"
is now a platinum album

558
00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:40.920
thanks to its unprecedented sales.

559
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.400
Maybe they are Héroes del Silencio,
but they do sound great!

560
00:38:59.560 --> 00:39:02.680
Best 1990 song,
"Entre dos Tierras".

561
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.640
I knew, for sure, that this song
would open every door.

562
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:10.360
What's up?

563
00:39:11.080 --> 00:39:12.240
I've slept until 7.30

564
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.400
I woke up and
I've been rushing all morning.

565
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.280
I haven't even opened my suitcase.

566
00:39:38.560 --> 00:39:40.760
You do look sleepy, mister!

567
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:42.680
We didn't live like the celebrities.

568
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.480
We lived in Zaragoza
and went to the same bars

569
00:39:45.560 --> 00:39:47.160
we went two years ago.

570
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.880
I told my mom:
"I will buy you a fur coat

571
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:51.920
when I'm famous."

572
00:39:52.560 --> 00:39:54.800
-Did you buy it?
-Sure!

573
00:39:55.160 --> 00:39:59.480
I also bought a Toledo steel sword
that I brought with me on the tours.

574
00:39:59.640 --> 00:40:01.000
Let's see your sword.

575
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.840
I don't know how many concerts
we gave in Spain.

576
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.760
I don't know, 130 concerts.

577
00:40:06.600 --> 00:40:09.160
When we reached 80,
we started thinking:

578
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:12.400
"Maybe we should tour
outside Spain."

579
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.080
That sounded crazy to our manager

580
00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:17.560
and the record company.

581
00:40:17.720 --> 00:40:19.040
But we didn't care.

582
00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:21.080
CENTRAL EUROPE 1991

583
00:40:25.720 --> 00:40:29.960
They had a wider view than I had
and a greater ambition than I had.

584
00:40:30.040 --> 00:40:31.680
And I'm very thankful.

585
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:33.920
I remember the first time
we toured over Europe.

586
00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:37.480
Switzerland for a couple of gigs,
Belgium for some other gigs...

587
00:40:37.560 --> 00:40:41.160
You get in the van and show up
in Belgium, play and then come back.

588
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:44.440
If you go to Cádiz,
why not Brussels?

589
00:40:55.600 --> 00:40:57.480
It was a little bar.

590
00:40:58.120 --> 00:41:01.320
It had a small stage on a corner
for singer-songwriters

591
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.280
with a chair and a guitar,
but we had lots of stuff...

592
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.080
When they saw our Marshall
and the equipment,

593
00:41:13.240 --> 00:41:14.800
they thought we were crazy, right?

594
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.160
The stage was barely
off the ground.

595
00:41:17.240 --> 00:41:21.320
We got the drums set and said:
"OK, what about the rest?"

596
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:28.960
They were wonderful shows,

597
00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:33.960
cause people enjoyed so much
in such tiny venues.

598
00:41:34.120 --> 00:41:37.400
Héroes del Silencio, from Zaragoza!

599
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.440
Being huge stars in Spain,

600
00:41:41.680 --> 00:41:45.160
you can go to Germany
to play in a shitty pub

601
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:46.680
or in a small bar...

602
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:47.840
We were little prepared,

603
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.720
we slept in hostels,
we did many kilometers, it was fun.

604
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.440
We were all together
and we enjoyed writing.

605
00:41:56.520 --> 00:41:57.920
Good old times.

606
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.760
We spent six or seven hours
in the van, every day.

607
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:03.080
We were together all day.

608
00:42:03.240 --> 00:42:04.920
It was like a marriage of four.

609
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:08.640
We were a pack
and spent all day together.

610
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.080
We were happy and excited
about our common project.

611
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.760
We always toured with the same people,

612
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:33.960
the same staff,
both in sound and lighting.

613
00:42:34.120 --> 00:42:38.120
People who perfectly understood
the way we wanted to show our music

614
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:39.640
and what we wanted to do.

615
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:42.760
We made a good team, right?
Supporting us.

616
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:44.320
You are fired.

617
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.240
Martín was the road manager,
the guy traveling with us in the van,

618
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.360
managing day-to-day affairs,
arranging hotels and so on.

619
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.680
He called us saying:
"Come on, there's a sound check."

620
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.520
He was like a father
while we toured.

621
00:43:02.680 --> 00:43:05.640
Martín, I wanna live...
Won't you let me live, Martín!

622
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.200
He really knew
what he was doing,

623
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.720
he had been the road manager
to other Spanish stars.

624
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:15.160
I got him for Héroes,
I thought he was the right person

625
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.400
and I always liked him.

626
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:20.040
He was like a brother
for all of us.

627
00:43:20.120 --> 00:43:22.120
He always was a support to us.

628
00:43:22.200 --> 00:43:25.080
Martín was a very important
person for the band,

629
00:43:25.160 --> 00:43:26.440
because, in a way,

630
00:43:26.520 --> 00:43:29.920
he was one of those people
who help you find balance.

631
00:43:41.600 --> 00:43:44.000
If you had taken the turn right!

632
00:43:44.080 --> 00:43:45.960
It was a straight line, you fucker!

633
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:56.440
One year later,
we toured over Germany again.

634
00:43:56.600 --> 00:43:59.520
We were invited
to play abroad, in Berlin.

635
00:43:59.600 --> 00:44:02.640
And that absolutely changed things.

636
00:44:03.080 --> 00:44:07.680
FESTIVAL AGAINST RACISM
FALL

637
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.800
BERLIN 1991
I’M AN OUTSIDER

638
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:44.240
We played...

639
00:44:44.680 --> 00:44:45.440
Thanks!

640
00:44:45.520 --> 00:44:48.400
...and when we got to the backstage,
we couldn't get in.

641
00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:54.640
It was like the Marx Brothers
in A Night at the Opera.

642
00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:57.440
A lot of people
came out of nowhere.

643
00:44:57.520 --> 00:44:59.720
All of them offered us
contracts to sign.

644
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:01.800
That festival made a huge difference.

645
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.680
It was broadcasted
and seen all over Germany.

646
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:06.840
So then it was...

647
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.320
Héroes del Silencio.

648
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.120
Héroes del Silencio.

649
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.880
Héroes del Silencio.

650
00:45:15.040 --> 00:45:16.680
Good evening, Frankfurt!

651
00:45:24.560 --> 00:45:26.760
Héroes del Silencio.

652
00:45:32.040 --> 00:45:33.720
Héroes del Silencio.

653
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.320
"Entre dos Tierras" was the trigger
of the Spanish hit, in the first place.

654
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:43.760
Then, it became a hit in Europe.

655
00:45:53.120 --> 00:45:56.720
In Berlin,
I was at a concert with Enrique,

656
00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:02.200
naked from the waist up, and 3000
Germans singing "Entre dos Tierras".

657
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:08.200
It gave me goosebumps!

658
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:09.240
Seeing people...

659
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:10.800
Entre dos Tierras

660
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.600
They didn't even know what it meant.

661
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.600
It was something nobody understood.

662
00:46:15.680 --> 00:46:18.360
The record label didn't understand.

663
00:46:18.520 --> 00:46:22.360
Pito didn't understand,
and maybe they didn't understand.

664
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.720
But something magical happened.

665
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:57.800
One of the most amazing things
of being in the music world is that

666
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:01.600
there are bands that
think outside the box

667
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.760
and go beyond the expectations.

668
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.320
How did the critics
treat you back in Spain?

669
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.200
It was the same, they just cared
about fucking Hombres G.

670
00:47:12.080 --> 00:47:14.160
What could we do, anyway?

671
00:47:47.680 --> 00:47:53.120
When the tour was over,
we decided to stop for a while...

672
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:54.960
for a short period.

673
00:47:55.040 --> 00:47:59.880
It was the normal holidays
for working people, right?

674
00:48:00.640 --> 00:48:03.840
Joaquín, Copi and I
went to India and Nepal.

675
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.120
And we got into the culture
and some books,

676
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:11.080
into the music...

677
00:48:11.160 --> 00:48:14.280
We started reading books
about spirituality,

678
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:15.560
Buddhism, Hinduism...

679
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.040
We found about the spiritual
world in India and Nepal.

680
00:48:24.040 --> 00:48:26.440
In a way, it was
an initiatory journey.

681
00:48:26.600 --> 00:48:28.680
And all of this reflected
in the songs lyrics,

682
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.440
at an instrumental level.

683
00:48:30.520 --> 00:48:33.560
They are clear
in "El Espíritu del Vino",

684
00:48:33.640 --> 00:48:37.520
which is a more complex,
intricate album.

685
00:48:50.160 --> 00:48:52.280
When they told us that...

686
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.240
we had to record a new album,
we had very little material.

687
00:48:57.560 --> 00:49:00.480
They came back
a day after Christmas

688
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.280
and we had rented
a huge house for them.

689
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:05.520
CHRISTMAS
LONDON 1992

690
00:49:05.600 --> 00:49:07.320
It was in the outskirts of London.

691
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:08.960
That's our house!

692
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.440
They had toured for so long

693
00:49:12.600 --> 00:49:16.280
so I didn't know
if they had written many songs.

694
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:19.400
They told me,
"Oh, it's gonna be a double album."

695
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:20.960
MUSIC PRODUCER

696
00:49:21.040 --> 00:49:24.360
And I said:
"No, it can't be. Are you sure?"

697
00:49:24.520 --> 00:49:28.080
Well, it was the way we saw things:

698
00:49:28.520 --> 00:49:31.600
So we don't have enough songs?
Let's do a double album.

699
00:49:33.720 --> 00:49:37.760
At that time,
Phil had infinite patience with us.

700
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.120
We stayed there for New Year's Eve.

701
00:49:40.200 --> 00:49:42.720
Phil was having Christmas
with his family.

702
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.480
We kept going
to the studio on our own,

703
00:49:45.560 --> 00:49:46.960
recording songs.

704
00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:49.240
I said:
"Well, there's the studio."

705
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:53.160
It was in a separate building
from my home, you know.

706
00:49:53.600 --> 00:49:59.680
I told them: "It's December 26th.
We'll start recording on January 7th."

707
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:03.800
"There's the studio,
you can practice, compose..."

708
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:05.160
"I don't want to see you."

709
00:50:06.680 --> 00:50:07.800
"Nor hear you!"

710
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.600
So, many years later,
I found out that...

711
00:50:13.160 --> 00:50:16.920
I don't know...
They had so many drugs...

712
00:50:17.080 --> 00:50:20.280
They were day and night...
I don't know what happened,

713
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.080
but they had no songs.

714
00:50:22.160 --> 00:50:23.720
Juan told me:

715
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.160
"I play guitar at my best at 3 am."

716
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.440
And I said: "Well, that's fantastic,
but I won't be here."

717
00:50:31.600 --> 00:50:36.480
Apple juice to start the day
with some energy.

718
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:41.880
Sometimes they went out
in London while we were mixing.

719
00:50:42.040 --> 00:50:44.160
And I often received a call:

720
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.280
"We were stopped by the police."

721
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.120
"Yes, send someone
to get us out of here."

722
00:50:50.200 --> 00:50:55.840
What I remember from that time
is working all-out 24 hours a day.

723
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:59.080
I can't play it now.

724
00:50:59.160 --> 00:51:01.320
We did spend
New Year's Eve in the studio,

725
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:03.800
celebrating with our instruments.

726
00:51:04.600 --> 00:51:07.640
And we wrote some songs.

727
00:51:08.200 --> 00:51:11.200
What's true about the myth
of you writing "Sirena Varada"

728
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:12.640
while you were high?

729
00:51:13.080 --> 00:51:15.040
That's no myth. That's real.

730
00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:16.680
NEW YEAR'S EVE 1992
FIRST RECORDING: "SIRENA VARADA"

731
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:18.240
-It's recording.
-When we're ready...

732
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:20.200
-Is it recording?
-Yes.

733
00:51:20.680 --> 00:51:22.120
-Now?
-No!

734
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.480
-What?
-Can you see me?

735
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.440
-Can you see him?
-No, no, no, no.

736
00:51:27.520 --> 00:51:31.880
THEY LEFT THE LENS COVER ON

737
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:33.280
What's going on, Joaquín?

738
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.280
Well, we may have taken something
one of those nights.

739
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:44.440
...THE LENS COVER IS STILL ON

740
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.920
-We were fucking nailing it.
-Let's do it right.

741
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:52.280
This is dead.

742
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:53.800
Should we repeat it?

743
00:51:54.160 --> 00:51:58.440
I mean, this is great!
There are so many mistakes...

744
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:06.560
Is it recording?

745
00:52:06.720 --> 00:52:09.720
-We need to turn this off.
-No, don't do it.

746
00:52:10.080 --> 00:52:11.080
And how was it?

747
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:12.440
It was beautiful.

748
00:52:12.680 --> 00:52:15.360
What seems beautiful
and fantastic at night,

749
00:52:15.680 --> 00:52:19.840
then tends to fade away, leaving...

750
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.400
In the field of creation,

751
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:33.680
everybody is curious about
knowing where are the limits,

752
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:36.560
and you raise them
as much as you can.

753
00:52:36.640 --> 00:52:38.800
That's what we did

754
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.520
and I think it's absolutely
logical and reasonable.

755
00:52:52.120 --> 00:52:54.360
It's the drugs that
made me more stupid,

756
00:52:54.520 --> 00:52:56.880
that damaged my relationships

757
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.200
with almost every person I know,

758
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.920
Drugs are to blame for...
lots of things.

759
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.520
Hangover means bad humor,
less tolerance towards others,

760
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.760
less patience, more stress.

761
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:18.520
You fear that the album is not
as good as you expected.

762
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:21.560
What drugs did to Héroes...

763
00:53:22.160 --> 00:53:25.400
Rather than helping with some things,
drugs ruined everything.

764
00:53:25.720 --> 00:53:27.520
I'm gonna change what we have.

765
00:53:27.600 --> 00:53:28.560
OK.

766
00:54:02.560 --> 00:54:03.640
We changed our sound.

767
00:54:03.720 --> 00:54:05.760
The demands were greater,

768
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.240
and so the tension was higher.

769
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:11.640
Maybe we punched
above our weight.

770
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:17.720
Having many targets and being
musically more ambitious

771
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:23.240
made us face our first clashes;

772
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:27.640
different opinions within the band
on where we should head to.

773
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:32.320
We didn't want to, or
we didn't know how to agree

774
00:54:32.680 --> 00:54:35.120
how to make things clear between us.

775
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:40.800
That album,
somehow, had all the ideas

776
00:54:41.200 --> 00:54:42.560
but without the final touch.

777
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:44.680
Phil Manzanera did his best there.

778
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:48.440
And his best was... spectacular, right?

779
00:54:48.720 --> 00:54:52.000
He recorded an album out of chaos.

780
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:03.880
PRESENTATION OF THE EXCESS TOUR
SUMMER 1992

781
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.880
They are Héroes del Silencio and
this is how they presented, in Berlin,

782
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:55.840
their new album:
"El Espíritu del Vino".

783
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:59.480
The band earned a gold record
in Germany for selling their album

784
00:55:59.560 --> 00:56:00.680
"Entre Dos Tierras".

785
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:06.160
The company decided to make clear
what was going on in Europa.

786
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.920
But still, everything
that happened to us was viewed

787
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.600
with much skepticism,
as if we were making things up.

788
00:56:15.680 --> 00:56:18.000
Despite the controversy caused

789
00:56:18.080 --> 00:56:21.720
by Héroes del Silencio comments
against the King,

790
00:56:22.120 --> 00:56:25.760
the band's rock made its way
into the Zarzuela royal palace.

791
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.880
Yes, there was controversy because...

792
00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:33.960
Spanish press loves controversy
like a fat kid loves cake.

793
00:56:34.120 --> 00:56:37.960
So if you are rock & roll,
punk, anarchist stars,

794
00:56:38.040 --> 00:56:40.960
why didn't you spit
on the King's face?

795
00:56:41.040 --> 00:56:42.920
And we're kind of fucking tired of that.

796
00:56:43.080 --> 00:56:47.760
There was a reason
to criticize Héroes del Silencio.

797
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:48.600
Shit!

798
00:56:48.680 --> 00:56:53.440
We had a very aggressive
attitude towards the press.

799
00:56:53.600 --> 00:56:55.360
Throw your television
out the window.

800
00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.320
They didn't make any effort
to please the national press.

801
00:57:00.720 --> 00:57:06.280
There are some dickheads
who think we are old-fashioned.

802
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.360
Maybe I was wrong
when I thought

803
00:57:12.520 --> 00:57:16.160
that giving bad answers
to the journalists

804
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:18.040
was supported by our audience.

805
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.360
I'll show you some real
70's rock & roll.

806
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.000
Let me talk, please.

807
00:57:22.160 --> 00:57:24.920
He was known for being,
let's say, a bit unbearable.

808
00:57:25.160 --> 00:57:28.640
I defended him by saying
he was just as unbearable

809
00:57:28.720 --> 00:57:30.400
as the first day I met him.

810
00:57:30.560 --> 00:57:32.400
It wasn't because he was a star.

811
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.080
He was very self-confident.

812
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:38.960
They have always said
we are arrogant and whiny.

813
00:57:39.120 --> 00:57:43.240
Maybe it's because
we have always had clear ideas

814
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.280
about what our career should be.

815
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.120
Besides, they were very shy.

816
00:57:47.560 --> 00:57:51.440
Under the guise of rock stars
they could cope with their shyness.

817
00:57:51.600 --> 00:57:54.600
Do you think that the rage
you show helps you sell more?

818
00:57:55.240 --> 00:57:57.720
I do understand
the need for promotion.

819
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.960
But what do you want me to say?
I'd rather not do it.

820
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:02.520
Let's see.

821
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:04.800
You're miles away, young man.

822
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:08.840
What are Héroes del Silencio's fears?

823
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:10.480
Fears?

824
00:58:10.560 --> 00:58:12.360
Juan didn't want to,
I didn't want to.

825
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:16.600
Things got weird with the media,
as they looked for the singer.

826
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:20.680
Enrique has always taken a role
he really didn't want.

827
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.320
If you answer all the questions,

828
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:27.160
it's normal that you're more famous
than the guitarist, who never speaks.

829
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.720
I don't teach anything to anyone.
Everyone is to do what they want.

830
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.400
-That's all.
-Alright.

831
00:58:34.560 --> 00:58:36.960
Juan was a rock star
in his own way.

832
00:58:37.040 --> 00:58:43.720
An artist who expresses himself
instrumentally, and not verbally.

833
00:58:44.040 --> 00:58:45.400
There was jealousy...

834
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.720
Maybe one got more attention
than the other...

835
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:53.960
Juan probably needed
greater recognition from...

836
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.880
Not from the band,
as he always got it, but externally,

837
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:01.360
which he deserved as an important
part, even more than Enrique,

838
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.640
in terms of how
Héroes del Silencio sounded.

839
00:59:36.520 --> 00:59:39.480
I thought that song was very punk.

840
00:59:39.560 --> 00:59:41.240
"What are these guys doing?"

841
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:42.800
"Now they want to play punk?"

842
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:44.080
MUSIC PRODUCER

843
00:59:44.160 --> 00:59:46.000
They told me:
Wait until they play "La herida".

844
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:48.280
OK, let's see what they got.

845
00:59:48.680 --> 00:59:50.160
So they play "La herida".

846
00:59:50.640 --> 00:59:51.800
Siempre

847
01:00:00.720 --> 01:00:02.920
I thought:
"This is a beautiful ballad."

848
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:07.720
And then, at the end, boom!
They go crazy as hell.

849
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:18.480
I thought it was kind of weird...

850
01:00:18.640 --> 01:00:22.000
We are a difficult band
to classify, I know,

851
01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:23.880
cause we were soft
at the beginning.

852
01:00:24.040 --> 01:00:26.920
What we've done,
be it right or wrong,

853
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.240
it's an evolutionary step
in our career.

854
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:37.360
We were talking about
how to bring that to live shows,

855
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.040
I thought it would be nice
to have an extra guitarist

856
01:00:40.120 --> 01:00:41.840
during the new tour.

857
01:00:42.080 --> 01:00:46.160
I met Alan Boguslavsky
at a party hosted by Pito.

858
01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:49.680
And he came to take
a guitarist test with Juan.

859
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:55.720
We got wasted after some shots,
and I thought: "This is the best one."

860
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:59.200
GUITARIST OF HÉROES DEL SILENCIO

861
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:03.160
No, no, don't say that!

862
01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:08.080
I chose him because he got drunk,
not because he played well...

863
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:12.080
They told me
"You passed these tests, so now...

864
01:01:12.520 --> 01:01:14.600
let's see if you can play the guitar."

865
01:01:18.640 --> 01:01:23.280
He had some influences,
a different way to see things,

866
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:27.880
which connected
with me immediately.

867
01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:31.480
I totally understood
my role at Héroes del Silencio.

868
01:01:31.560 --> 01:01:35.120
I've always liked
the rhythm elements of guitar.

869
01:01:37.720 --> 01:01:41.200
So I realized that the role
I was about to take when I joined

870
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:45.080
Héroes del Silencio
was to bring a new energy.

871
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:48.640
What for?
For good and for what's not so good.

872
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.000
Act as an exhaust valve
for some stuff, right?

873
01:01:52.080 --> 01:01:57.320
He was a self-help recruit,
rather than a musical one.

874
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.920
At that time, I was homeless,

875
01:02:11.080 --> 01:02:14.920
so I had a suitcase with clothes
in the trunk of my car.

876
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:19.680
I slept at a friend's for some days,
then a few days with another friend...

877
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.960
So imagine you're living
in your car or at a friend's,

878
01:02:24.040 --> 01:02:26.680
and suddenly you're in Spain
going to your first concert

879
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:30.760
in a private airplane
from the Zaragoza airport...

880
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:33.160
That totally changes your life, right?

881
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:41.840
Any musician who plays rock & roll...
wants to live that experience.

882
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:45.800
Live life in a tour, playing
from one place to another...

883
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.960
And you do want the attention
and, somehow, the fame.

884
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:55.760
LIVE AT ROCK AM RING 1993

885
01:03:07.160 --> 01:03:10.080
Everything was new to me,
the fun things,

886
01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:11.960
the generated tension...

887
01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:15.760
After three shows you get
a free day, which you spend traveling.

888
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.760
Then you do three
or four more shows,

889
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:19.720
and then again,
again and again...

890
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.600
MEXICO 1993

891
01:03:51.560 --> 01:03:53.760
A great band that came
from Spain last week.

892
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:57.760
They are considered the leaders
of the Spanish-speaking rock in Europe.

893
01:03:58.160 --> 01:03:59.920
America was way more difficult.

894
01:04:00.520 --> 01:04:02.400
We did an important
tour in Mexico,

895
01:04:02.560 --> 01:04:06.480
in modest stages,
trying to do our project.

896
01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:16.960
The band was working hard,
trying to win over the audience.

897
01:04:17.120 --> 01:04:19.640
Congratulations from Mexico
to Spain and to you.

898
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:23.360
We're so happy to have
this super band with us.

899
01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:26.120
Straight from Spain,
Héroes del Silencio!

900
01:04:31.160 --> 01:04:34.960
Baja California border!
That proves where we are.

901
01:04:35.040 --> 01:04:38.400
We're on a tour in which
today you play before 100 people

902
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:39.640
and tomorrow for 100 000.

903
01:04:39.720 --> 01:04:43.280
So we were playing
at the Sports Palace in Madrid

904
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:46.240
and then in a pub in Vienna,

905
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:48.720
and we played
at a festival in Germany,

906
01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:52.280
and then we went to Argentina.

907
01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:56.560
We were flying and touring
in a chaotic, hectic way.

908
01:05:01.680 --> 01:05:04.360
Hello, good morning.
We are in Germany.

909
01:05:04.520 --> 01:05:07.960
Our journey over
the mountains continues.

910
01:05:37.560 --> 01:05:41.760
Those tours we did
were ginormous, eternal,

911
01:05:42.040 --> 01:05:43.520
very, very long.

912
01:05:43.600 --> 01:05:45.400
That was taking a terrible toll.

913
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.720
It weakened coexistence every day.

914
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:52.600
Certain parts of our personality
were more and more accentuated

915
01:05:52.680 --> 01:05:55.880
every day, every week,
every kilometer.

916
01:05:56.040 --> 01:05:58.920
So we got to the hotel
and everyone...

917
01:05:59.160 --> 01:06:01.880
Everyone starts to think
of themselves rather than the band,

918
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:03.680
amps are bigger every time,

919
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.840
everyone wants
their volume to be higher,

920
01:06:06.200 --> 01:06:10.320
and maybe we stopped listening
to each other as we did before.

921
01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:26.920
I think we should have stopped
there for a year, at least.

922
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:07.520
I read some German critics
saying that we looked tired

923
01:07:07.600 --> 01:07:09.520
and we weren't fresh anymore.

924
01:07:09.680 --> 01:07:12.400
Deep inside of me,
I knew it was true.

925
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.520
We were nervous, in the end.

926
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:46.160
Enrique had forced
his voice so, so much,

927
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:51.600
it was damaged, and then we played
in Paris, at Elysee Montmartre.

928
01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:53.720
Sellout show, 2000 people.

929
01:07:54.520 --> 01:07:58.040
After the third or fourth song,
Enrique says he can't keep singing,

930
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.360
he left the microphone
on the floor and left the stage.

931
01:08:01.600 --> 01:08:06.000
We went to the backstage
and Enrique said: "I can't go on."

932
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:09.040
We were all shocked, we thought
our singer was indefatigable,

933
01:08:09.120 --> 01:08:11.560
TWO THOUSAND PARISIAN FANS
COULD NOT TASTE THE BAND'S WINE

934
01:08:11.640 --> 01:08:13.920
that he was atomic
and his voice would never fail him.

935
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.360
So he suddenly says:
"I can't go on."

936
01:08:18.280 --> 01:08:19.760
So Héroes del Silencio...

937
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:24.320
became many hours of silence.
That was fucked up.

938
01:08:25.400 --> 01:08:31.640
Trips were so long,
eight or nine hours with no communication.

939
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:33.960
Dangerous.

940
01:08:35.040 --> 01:08:38.320
Héroes del Silencio
tour manager, Martín Druille,

941
01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:40.600
has died in a car crash.

942
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:44.320
Also in the accident, the stage
manager was seriously injured,

943
01:08:44.400 --> 01:08:46.520
but fortunately he is out of danger.

944
01:08:47.440 --> 01:08:49.840
Can you remember
the night of the accident?

945
01:08:52.400 --> 01:08:53.440
Well...

946
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:57.680
We were back from...
Well, it was New Year's Eve...

947
01:09:05.240 --> 01:09:08.720
You were on a tour,
but it was about to finish, right?

948
01:09:09.240 --> 01:09:11.120
We're coming home for Christmas.

949
01:09:12.440 --> 01:09:14.000
For New Year's Eve.

950
01:09:18.480 --> 01:09:20.480
Were you with Martín that night?

951
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:22.000
We were together,

952
01:09:22.080 --> 01:09:26.320
they came back later,
they went to buy seafood for the family.

953
01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:32.440
He always played with fire,
he used to drive at full speed.

954
01:09:34.400 --> 01:09:35.760
And he burned.

955
01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:42.080
It's fucking hard.

956
01:09:43.400 --> 01:09:44.760
Martín hurt us.

957
01:09:47.040 --> 01:09:48.840
He was just a road manager,

958
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.840
I mean, he wasn't
the most important member.

959
01:09:53.160 --> 01:09:56.240
But sometimes, the most
important people are not those

960
01:09:56.360 --> 01:09:58.600
who hold the top position.

961
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.680
When Martín was gone,

962
01:10:03.120 --> 01:10:06.000
we lost a parental figure to the band,

963
01:10:06.080 --> 01:10:10.280
who also contributed
to have a good relationship.

964
01:10:12.440 --> 01:10:14.760
It was a very painful loss,

965
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:19.440
he was so close to us, both
professionally and personally.

966
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:23.360
It was painful because I created
a beautiful bond with Martín.

967
01:10:24.400 --> 01:10:26.280
I felt cared for by him.

968
01:10:27.400 --> 01:10:29.720
I do remember him

969
01:10:30.320 --> 01:10:32.840
with all my gratitude
and all my affection.

970
01:10:34.040 --> 01:10:39.920
And if I think of him,
of course it brings me sadness.

971
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:43.280
He left quite a mark on the band.

972
01:10:44.240 --> 01:10:46.880
The first concert we gave,
in Zaragoza,

973
01:10:47.040 --> 01:10:48.560
after Martín's death,

974
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:53.320
was a very emotional show,
very hard for us to give.

975
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:59.560
We would like the show
to be a sort of tribute...

976
01:11:00.360 --> 01:11:05.520
to our road manager
and beloved friend, Martín.

977
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:13.960
In his memory,
we really appreciated him...

978
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.880
This one is for you, Martín.

979
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:52.280
BENASQUE HOSPITAL
WINTER 1994

980
01:11:57.360 --> 01:11:58.160
Benasque...

981
01:11:58.240 --> 01:12:03.240
We needed powerful places
to stimulate the band, I think.

982
01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:08.600
Practicing in Zaragoza would
have been worse, as we were fed up.

983
01:12:09.320 --> 01:12:12.000
Coming back to that basement...

984
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:15.240
We wanted to be far
from the madding crowd.

985
01:12:15.400 --> 01:12:18.440
We were somehow
looking for ourselves.

986
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:24.360
Should we go on and climb it? Where?

987
01:12:24.440 --> 01:12:25.200
There.

988
01:12:25.280 --> 01:12:28.520
-There.
-We need to come closer...

989
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:33.360
Well, we liked the concept of a
personal relationship between us,

990
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.360
similar to the beginning, right?

991
01:12:36.440 --> 01:12:38.760
Being together.

992
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:42.920
The thing of being isolated
brought calm to the band.

993
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:50.480
It was about coexisting,

994
01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:54.840
but not coexisting
in a small rehearsal room,

995
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:57.720
but in this majestic landscape,
where you can do you want,

996
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:01.040
be it going out for a walk or not.

997
01:13:01.120 --> 01:13:03.960
The mountain-type guys
woke up early and went for a walk.

998
01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:09.080
Those who were not climbers
woke up for lunch and practice.

999
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:29.080
This is Juan trying to fish...

1000
01:13:30.240 --> 01:13:34.080
some fish in the lake, cause maybe
we will never leave this place.

1001
01:13:35.360 --> 01:13:39.840
As you can see,
we are under a cloud.

1002
01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:44.760
Enrique is smoking the last pipe.

1003
01:13:45.280 --> 01:13:47.360
A self-manufactured pipe.

1004
01:13:48.120 --> 01:13:51.160
At that time, our manager
was a little confused.

1005
01:13:51.440 --> 01:13:54.880
He showed up sometimes
in a poor condition,

1006
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:58.760
and he kind of had forgotten
about his job as a manager

1007
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:01.920
and about managing the band's affairs.

1008
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:08.240
Well, the thing with Pito
was the escalation of drugs

1009
01:14:09.080 --> 01:14:10.640
in which...

1010
01:14:11.280 --> 01:14:14.480
in which all
of Spain was involved...

1011
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:17.360
some of us did better
and could work...

1012
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:21.000
and a certain point,
Pito didn't work as a manager.

1013
01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:26.520
Yes, at that time,
I didn't really know what happened.

1014
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:30.520
Now I know what was going on,
back then I didn't.

1015
01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:35.000
I mean, I was totally
way over the limit.

1016
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:40.080
Then we went to a house in England.

1017
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:42.720
We're angry.

1018
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:44.760
We're angry in London

1019
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:48.160
because Quique phoned Madrid's
office and he wouldn't answer.

1020
01:14:48.440 --> 01:14:52.280
I remember we were practicing
in that cottage in London suburbs,

1021
01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:54.680
trying to find Pito for some days.

1022
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:56.560
There was no way to find him.

1023
01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:59.680
Eventually,
I found out he was at a hotel,

1024
01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:05.200
with the guys from Suede,
who also were drugged to the hills.

1025
01:15:05.280 --> 01:15:09.120
As he didn't pick up the phone,
I went to the hotel,

1026
01:15:09.480 --> 01:15:12.000
I got into his room
and tried to talk to him.

1027
01:15:12.080 --> 01:15:17.600
And... within the chaos
and haze of those conversations,

1028
01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:24.560
I managed to tell him that
he needed to take some time

1029
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:26.800
to recover,
and that, in the meantime,

1030
01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:29.840
we had to record an album
and continue the tour,

1031
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:32.760
so when he felt better,
he could give us a call.

1032
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.840
The funny thing is that
he called me two days later,

1033
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:39.080
saying he was OK.

1034
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:43.200
He needed to stop that
and then we had no manager.

1035
01:15:43.280 --> 01:15:44.960
There was a shift in focus.

1036
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.320
We also wanted
to try a new producer.

1037
01:16:01.400 --> 01:16:03.600
I guess the figure
of Bob Ezrin is impressive,

1038
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:09.560
the fact that he recorded Pink Floyd,
Alice Cooper, being with Aerosmith,

1039
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:11.640
going to Los Angeles to record...

1040
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.000
Well, that's a new level, right?

1041
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:33.040
I had a hard time
recording Avalancha

1042
01:16:33.120 --> 01:16:36.520
cause working
with Pink Floyd's producer

1043
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:38.440
is such a great standard...

1044
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:42.240
you even think you don't deserve
these people, right?

1045
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:45.720
That pressure made me freeze.

1046
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:49.800
Juan started to have a serious
problem with his hands.

1047
01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:53.880
At the beginning,
it was not discussed enough,

1048
01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:57.160
the problem was not seriously handled.

1049
01:16:57.240 --> 01:17:02.960
My left hand was totally fucked up,
so I was in pain when I played the guitar.

1050
01:17:04.280 --> 01:17:07.680
I was so afraid, because
the guitar plucking I had in Avalancha

1051
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:12.160
was very difficult to perform
and I wanted to play well.

1052
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.840
I gave around 60 concerts
without being able to...

1053
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.920
I put my finger here
and it went there.

1054
01:17:23.040 --> 01:17:25.680
They didn't understand
what happened to me,

1055
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:29.480
plus I was drinking
a huge amount

1056
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.680
of alcohol at parties and so on...

1057
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:36.560
I think it was at the beginning
of the last American tour.

1058
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:40.160
There's a discrepancy regarding...

1059
01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:43.560
Enrique wanted to innovate,
and try new things.

1060
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:48.880
He wanted to take a new musical
direction and use new instruments,

1061
01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:51.480
to change Juan's sound,

1062
01:17:52.160 --> 01:17:55.160
and then we started to disagree.

1063
01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:58.120
Why "Avalancha",
an avalanche of what?

1064
01:17:58.480 --> 01:18:00.480
An avalanche of motivation.

1065
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:05.280
There's a moment in which
the four or five band members

1066
01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:09.360
need to talk and restore...

1067
01:18:09.440 --> 01:18:13.080
our friendship and our music,
which is what really united us.

1068
01:18:13.320 --> 01:18:14.760
That's why we are here.

1069
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:17.520
I realized that, musically,

1070
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:21.080
the gap between Enrique and Juan
was getting bigger, it was a rift.

1071
01:18:21.480 --> 01:18:24.440
One pulled in one direction,
the other pulled in the opposite.

1072
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:29.600
And, caught in the crossfire,
Joaquín, Pedro and myself.

1073
01:18:30.240 --> 01:18:34.680
At some point, Pedro got sick
and he had an operation.

1074
01:18:35.200 --> 01:18:37.880
Pedro had a heart surgery
and he stayed here in Zaragoza

1075
01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:40.960
recovering while we go
to Mexico with a new drummer.

1076
01:18:41.040 --> 01:18:42.480
It was all chaos.

1077
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:48.720
And the conversation came up, we said:
"well, we need to stop."

1078
01:19:07.080 --> 01:19:08.560
When you have a problem,

1079
01:19:09.040 --> 01:19:12.680
if someone puts
his finger in the wound

1080
01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:19.320
by saying: "this is the problem,"
your first reaction is to turn on.

1081
01:19:19.400 --> 01:19:24.000
He gathered us and said that
he didn't like Héroes music anymore,

1082
01:19:24.080 --> 01:19:30.960
that the band was over,
he wanted to stop and he was done.

1083
01:19:31.480 --> 01:19:34.800
When I recovered,
I went to Mexico and told Anye Bao:

1084
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:39.320
"Take a plane and get out of here,
this is my place."

1085
01:19:39.400 --> 01:19:43.640
When he arrives, the first thing
we say is we want to break up.

1086
01:20:00.280 --> 01:20:03.280
I wrote some proposals,

1087
01:20:03.440 --> 01:20:08.000
what I thought we could do
to improve the situation

1088
01:20:08.280 --> 01:20:10.800
and how we could save the band.

1089
01:20:11.080 --> 01:20:13.880
One: "rock & roll is dead."

1090
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:18.840
"Rolling Stones are out of style,
and so are AC/DC. No more rock."

1091
01:20:19.200 --> 01:20:24.360
"Gibson and Marshall
are a thing of the past. Forget them."

1092
01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.360
Maybe he didn't explain well,
but these ten rules were...

1093
01:20:27.440 --> 01:20:30.200
"No Marshall."
What does that mean? No voice?

1094
01:20:31.280 --> 01:20:34.280
I remember that
my proposal was not welcomed.

1095
01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:37.440
I said:
"Someone is going crazy here,"

1096
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:40.160
I left the room and went to mine.

1097
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:45.600
One didn't know how to say
"Why don't we try this?"

1098
01:20:46.360 --> 01:20:50.000
And the other took
everything personally, so...

1099
01:20:50.240 --> 01:20:53.080
It was like: "I'm leaving the band!"
"Me too!", "And me!"

1100
01:20:53.160 --> 01:20:55.680
I mean, in 15 minutes...

1101
01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:59.000
all of us said we'd leave
the band except Pedro.

1102
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:01.800
I had been gifted a new heart.

1103
01:21:02.040 --> 01:21:04.640
So I was like:
"Come on, you're joking."

1104
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:09.520
I'd send you three months to hospital
so you know what it is like.

1105
01:21:10.400 --> 01:21:13.000
Did you publicly announce
that the group was breaking up?

1106
01:21:15.320 --> 01:21:16.240
No.

1107
01:21:16.320 --> 01:21:18.840
During that time,
we didn't tell anybody.

1108
01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.120
But still we stayed the course,

1109
01:21:21.280 --> 01:21:23.800
thinking that
we didn't have to fight anymore,

1110
01:21:24.360 --> 01:21:27.400
because the situation was clear,
somehow.

1111
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:30.280
These are our last shows.
Let's do them right.

1112
01:21:32.240 --> 01:21:38.240
LOS ANGELES
AUTUMN 1996

1113
01:21:39.240 --> 01:21:42.360
It was the last Héroes concert
in Los Angeles,

1114
01:21:42.440 --> 01:21:44.280
and Bob Ezrin came to see us.

1115
01:21:44.360 --> 01:21:48.360
He was in the backstage,
with his cigars and everything.

1116
01:21:48.440 --> 01:21:51.880
And he goes:
"Well, what are you playing in the show?"

1117
01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:55.400
I knew we were going
to cancel it, and told him:

1118
01:21:56.240 --> 01:21:58.920
"Good luck," that's what I said.

1119
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.040
Cause I thought:
"He won't see any concert."

1120
01:22:02.200 --> 01:22:04.960
That particular day,
which I'll always remember,

1121
01:22:05.040 --> 01:22:08.520
they came from Japan
to sign us for a tour there.

1122
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:13.920
It was a shitty concert,
maybe 20 minutes or half an hour.

1123
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:27.520
At that time, shows in the U.S.

1124
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:31.520
were kind of violent,
people threw things at the stage.

1125
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:36.040
Some people
who got tickets out of nowhere

1126
01:22:36.120 --> 01:22:38.600
started throwing coins at Enrique.

1127
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:48.800
They started throwing things
at the stage so I decided to leave.

1128
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.080
Juan told me...
He looked at me as if saying:

1129
01:22:51.240 --> 01:22:55.080
"If he leaves, I'm off, too. Fuck it!"
So they all left.

1130
01:23:00.280 --> 01:23:02.560
The Japanese delegation
was in the backstage.

1131
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:04.440
They came to see the concert.

1132
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:07.320
I would have loved
to be a star in Japan.

1133
01:23:07.400 --> 01:23:09.600
So when the Japanese delegation

1134
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.360
came to see us and offered
a release there, we broke up.

1135
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:15.080
In their fucking faces.

1136
01:23:15.440 --> 01:23:18.480
We said goodbye and came back
separately to Zaragoza,

1137
01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:21.200
And... it was over.

1138
01:23:35.080 --> 01:23:39.040
After the most ambitious tour
ever made by a Spanish rock band,

1139
01:23:39.120 --> 01:23:40.720
Héroes del Silencio are breaking up...

1140
01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:43.720
They leave after 12 years
and more than 1000 concerts...

1141
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:46.000
They have sold over six million
records in 40 countries.

1142
01:23:46.080 --> 01:23:49.440
Héroes del Silencio members
will start their solo careers,

1143
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:50.440
Enrique Bunbury...

1144
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.080
What seemed a break
in October 1996...

1145
01:23:53.160 --> 01:23:56.360
Years after the band breakup,
the legend goes on...

1146
01:23:56.440 --> 01:23:59.560
When Héroes are asked
about coming back to the stage,

1147
01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:03.400
the members of the band
keep completely silent.

1148
01:24:11.120 --> 01:24:16.800
TEN YEARS LATER

1149
01:24:18.080 --> 01:24:20.480
ZARAGOZA
FEBRUARY 2007

1150
01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:21.600
Whenever you want.

1151
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:23.400
Hi, we are Héroes del Silencio.

1152
01:24:23.480 --> 01:24:26.800
After ten years away
from the stages,

1153
01:24:27.080 --> 01:24:29.240
we are so excited
to announce that,

1154
01:24:29.400 --> 01:24:33.760
this year, after the 20th anniversary
of the release of our first recordings,

1155
01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:37.280
we will do a reunion tour
of just ten concerts.

1156
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:46.680
This is the non-silent return of one
of the most iconic bands in Spain.

1157
01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:49.040
They will play together
in a historic tour

1158
01:24:49.120 --> 01:24:51.760
over the U.S.,
Latin America and Spain.

1159
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:56.000
Héroes del Silencio are back
11 years after they split up.

1160
01:24:56.160 --> 01:24:58.720
Three, two, one...!

1161
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:00.880
At 12 o'clock tonight

1162
01:25:01.040 --> 01:25:03.680
the gates opened
to start selling tickets

1163
01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:06.000
for the Héroes del Silencio concert.

1164
01:25:12.280 --> 01:25:13.840
I think it was necessary.

1165
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:15.280
In a selfish way,

1166
01:25:15.360 --> 01:25:18.800
I think we needed
to come back to the stage,

1167
01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:20.400
to play these songs,

1168
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:23.960
to be united, as we were
at the band's origins.

1169
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:29.240
In public, in front of everybody,
we're recovering the good vibes

1170
01:25:29.320 --> 01:25:31.080
we have for one another.

1171
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:49.000
Héroes, Héroes, Héroes!

1172
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:55.560
Jota!

1173
01:25:57.080 --> 01:26:02.080
Héroes, Héroes, Héroes!

1174
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:11.600
Ready?

1175
01:26:20.480 --> 01:26:24.200
Héroes, Héroes, Héroes!

1176
01:26:28.400 --> 01:26:29.800
Hell yeah!

1177
01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:37.920
The time's come.
Well, the time's come.

1178
01:27:57.240 --> 01:27:58.960
When you go up
the stairs of the stage,

1179
01:27:59.040 --> 01:28:01.320
you need to forget
everything but music.

1180
01:28:01.480 --> 01:28:04.880
The only place where Héroes
fully understand each other

1181
01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:06.760
is on a stage, playing their songs.

1182
01:28:07.280 --> 01:28:09.440
Actually, the band's life
was very short,

1183
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:12.320
the band could have gone
so much further.

1184
01:28:12.480 --> 01:28:14.440
We could have done more things.

1185
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:17.840
I wish we were still together
and had 15 records.

1186
01:28:18.200 --> 01:28:21.280
Then, we would really
have made history.

1187
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:29.360
I guess no one played their role,

1188
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:33.400
and we must consider them
one of those big anomalies.

1189
01:28:33.480 --> 01:28:36.440
During the 10 years they stopped,

1190
01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:39.400
they grew even more than
when they were together.

1191
01:28:39.480 --> 01:28:41.720
That's not normal in the world of rock.

1192
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:45.640
Songs...
Music survives everything.

1193
01:28:53.320 --> 01:28:57.520
I had long dreamt of being
in a stadium, in a show,

1194
01:28:57.680 --> 01:28:58.960
like the Rolling Stones.

1195
01:28:59.240 --> 01:29:01.640
All our dreams came true,
sure they did.

1196
01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:13.360
It's emotional to reach
the end of something.

1197
01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:17.240
To properly complete a work
is better than extending it forever.

1198
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:21.160
Thank you so much!
Goodbye!

1199
01:29:32.200 --> 01:29:33.480
Thank you so much!

1200
01:29:57.240 --> 01:29:59.320
Goodbye forever! That's it!

1201
01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.920
THE LAST CONCERT BY HÉROES
DEL SILENCIO WAS HELD IN VALENCIA

1202
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:05.360
ON THE 27th OF OCTOBER, 2007

1203
01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:10.600
MORE THAN 80,000 PEOPLE
ATTENDED THE SHOW.

1204
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:15.600
THEY HAVE NEVER PLAYED TOGETHER
AGAIN

1205
01:30:22.320 --> 01:30:26.480
Héroes, Héroes, Héroes!

1206
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:31.080
Héroes, Héroes, Héroes!

1207
01:30:31.160 --> 01:30:34.800
Héroes, Héroes, Héroes!