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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (THEME MUSIC PLAYS) ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis Morissette was one
of the biggest musical stars</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}of her generation.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Making this movie gave me a look</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}at these personal moments
behind the scenes,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}getting to see what she was
up against at the time.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And there was still so much
that I didn't know about her.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHANTS)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is all I want to say to you ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}We ready?</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Let's get together.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}God, time's flying,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}so let's just seize as many
of the moments as we can</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and enjoy the shows
for what they are,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}enjoy the cover team tonight,
the vibe...</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}So have a good show, sweets.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Cheers.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Tank, don't fuck up.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Oh, you're asking
for karma right there.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I'm gonna be watching.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Jay, don't blow that last note.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}-♪ (ROCK MUSIC PLAYS) ♪
-(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("ALL I REALLY WANT"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Do I stress you out? ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ My sweater is on backwards
And inside out ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And you say
How appropriate ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I don't want to dissect
Everything today ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I don't mean to pick you
Apart you see ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ But I can't help it... ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}GUY OSEARY: The album opens
with the question,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}"Do I stress you out?"</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And then spends
the rest of its time</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}trying to live up
to that question.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And it would knock me
To the floor ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ If I wasn't there already ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ If only I could hunt
The hunter ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: At the time, almost
one out of every ten people</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}in America had the album.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Wherever you went, everyone
knew Jagged Little Pill.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}LORRAINE ALI: It's so rare
for an artist</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}who's totally unknown</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}to come out with a debut album,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}have one hit after another</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}to the point
where they're not only, like,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}a national phenomenon,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}they're, like,
a world-wide phenomenon.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ A way to get my hands untied ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And all I really want... ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}LISA WORDEN: Her brutal honesty
is what empowered women.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}It just gave you a chance
to let out your own feelings.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}It's like, "I've got a voice.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I'm 19 years old,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and I'm gonna fucking well
tell you how I feel about that."</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}A lot of people would say,
"Wow, you're so brave.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}"You're so empowered.
You're so strong," you know?</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And I'm like, "Sometimes."</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I can't write all these songs</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}without obviously having
been disempowered.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, half these songs
are about attempting</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}to become empowered.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis interview, take one.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}A mark.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}-ALISON KLAYMAN: So Canada, eh?
-(LAUGHS)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}ALISON: Tell us about where
you grew up.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Ottawa is a sweet
hometown of mine.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Capital of Canada.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Every woman from Ottawa
that I know</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}is hyper-capable and competent,
outspoken,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}slightly androgynous, and fun,
and knows how to party.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I lived in Ottawa for the first
three years of my life...</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and then we moved to Germany
for a few years.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}But I consider myself to have
grown up in Ottawa, primarily,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and then influenced
by the three-some-odd years</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}that we were in Europe.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And my parents
were both teachers.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I have an older brother
named Chad</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and a twin brother named Wade.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}My cousins used to say
that they were coming over</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}to see the three boys.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}"Come on, boys."</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And I'd be like, "Okay,
I guess that includes me."</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I was eight and nine,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and I used to just sing songs
into a cassette tape.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I wanted to be a dancer, actor,
teacher, writer, nurse.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Archetypes.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Meet the parents. It's us!
(CHUCKLES)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}-Dysfunctional.
-(CHUCKLES)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}My mom is just breathtaking.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Anytime I feel beautiful,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I feel as though
I look like her.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And when I don't
feel so beautiful,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I don't look like her at all.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}My dad always wanted to be
in the entertainment industry.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}He loves music.
He loves film.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}My dad definitely
had his eye out all the time.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}He was pretty excited
to share anything</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}that would open those
doors for me.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Touch my brother, would ya?</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}-Hey, Stephanie?
-Yes, Alanis?</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: I auditioned for
You Can't Do That on Television.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}It was a big cattle call.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}It's a kids' show
that also winks to the parents.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis, you must
have a good idea.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I don't know.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}If you say "I don't know,"
you get slimed.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Alasdair, you did that
on purpose.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Now I will hate you.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}It was too much
like a full-time job,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, we were on a TV show.
So it was like, okay,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}you're ten or you're 11
or you're 12,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and here are your hours.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I loved singing in church.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Basically a room every Sunday</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}where we're all singing
at the top of our lungs,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}these songs of rapture
and gratitude and exaltation.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Yes!</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I was singing,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and a woman tapped me
on the shoulder really quietly,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and she said,
"You have a beautiful voice."</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And I remember thinking,
"I do? Thanks!"</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And I just remember sitting
for the rest of Mass</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}just being, like... (GASPS)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}RADIO HOST: My guest tonight
is Alanis Morissette.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And I welcome you in, Alanis,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}because I think
you are the youngest guest</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}who I've ever had
on this program.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}(ALANIS CHUCKLES)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}RADIO HOST: Twelve years old,
and you actually sing and write</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}-your own music, right?
-ALANIS: Yes, I do.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}When I was ten, I just thought,
"Hey, why don't I write a song?"</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And I did.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ What did you think
I'd be doing now? ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ While you left me
I was thinking aloud ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Will there be no end
To my sorrow? ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Will I make it
Through tomorrow? ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}SHOW HOST: Ladies and gentlemen,
the 1987 CJOH</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Youth Talent Search '87
grand prize winner</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}is Alanis Morissette!</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}This was when all the vision
for what was possible</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}for the rest of my life, like,
started getting flashes</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}of photos of me
traveling and touring,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and it all started
to feel possible.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Fate, fate, fate
Stay with me ♪</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I'd get on airplanes
when I was ten,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and my mom would tap
the gentleman's shoulder</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and say,
"Could you just kind of</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}keep an eye
on my daughter on this flight?"</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}So I'd fly to Toronto
and do photoshoots</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and music sessions
and interviews.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}It was just a different era.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}We're really enjoying kind of
the ride, if you wish, along.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And our basic purpose
is to try to make sure</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}that the right people
are surrounding Alanis.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: My dad met Leslie Howe
at a restaurant.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}He was pretty much the only
person in Canada who made music,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}whom we knew of,
who lived in Ottawa.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}So the thought
on my dad's part was,</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}"Well, this would be the perfect
person to speak with."</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}LESLIE HOWE: They came over
one day with some tapes</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and approached me
on seeing if I would</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}be interested in producing her.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}And they dropped off a tape,
and I said I'd listen to it.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I thought, you know, it's pretty
damn good for somebody her age.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}I'm working with Leslie Howe
right now from One to One.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}He's producing my album.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}INTERVIEWER: And all of that
having just turned 15.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}-Yeah.
-(INTERVIEWER LAUGHS)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: Working with Leslie,
just singing and singing
and singing</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}and just cut my teeth
on vocal aerobics, basically.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}His style of production
was much more... (IMITATES WHIP)</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Forty-two tracks of harmonies.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}Sing it again, sing it again,
sing it again, sing it again.</font>

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<font size="41">{\an1}So there was some element later
where I compensatorily was like,</font>

180
00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,261
<font size="41">{\an1}"I'm not doing fucking 50 takes.
I'm doing one... or two."</font>

181
00:12:01,387 --> 00:12:02,888
<font size="41">{\an1}That's when I started
writing songs</font>

182
00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,599
<font size="41">{\an1}for what became
my self-titled record</font>

183
00:12:05,683 --> 00:12:09,437
<font size="41">{\an1}with the song "Too Hot" on it,
that I released when I was 16.</font>

184
00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,896
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("TOO HOT"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

185
00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:13,441
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Always too hot
Never too cold ♪</font>

186
00:12:13,524 --> 00:12:16,110
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You make your best shot
Too hot to hold... ♪</font>

187
00:12:16,193 --> 00:12:18,237
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
We did a video for "Too Hot".</font>

188
00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,574
<font size="41">{\an1}It was one of the most
fun parts of life.</font>

189
00:12:21,657 --> 00:12:25,035
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Hey, boy
You wanted all or nothin'... ♪</font>

190
00:12:25,119 --> 00:12:27,872
<font size="41">{\an1}There was an element
of lack of hyper-protection,</font>

191
00:12:27,955 --> 00:12:29,206
<font size="41">{\an1}no question.</font>

192
00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:32,334
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, I was shooting
music videos in Paris.</font>

193
00:12:35,087 --> 00:12:36,505
<font size="41">{\an1}I put a bathing suit
on at one point</font>

194
00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:38,424
<font size="41">{\an1}and jumped into the fountain.</font>

195
00:12:38,507 --> 00:12:41,010
<font size="41">{\an1}Just as the police were coming
to boot us out, we... (WHOOSHES)</font>

196
00:12:41,093 --> 00:12:42,094
<font size="41">{\an1}We bolted.</font>

197
00:12:42,178 --> 00:12:44,138
<font size="41">{\an1}LESLIE: And I guess
she's just got this...</font>

198
00:12:44,221 --> 00:12:45,347
<font size="41">{\an1}charisma that people like.</font>

199
00:12:45,431 --> 00:12:47,850
<font size="41">{\an1}And they want to hear her,
and they want to see her.</font>

200
00:12:47,933 --> 00:12:49,894
<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis' summer has been spent</font>

201
00:12:49,977 --> 00:12:52,271
<font size="41">{\an1}traveling with me
across the country.</font>

202
00:12:52,354 --> 00:12:54,774
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm going to Florida
for Christmas.</font>

203
00:12:55,232 --> 00:12:57,026
<font size="41">{\an1}(BOTH CHUCKLE)</font>

204
00:12:57,109 --> 00:13:00,738
<font size="41">{\an1}On one level, I just thought,
"This is dream-come-true stuff.</font>

205
00:13:00,821 --> 00:13:02,656
<font size="41">{\an1}"This is, like,
catalyst beginning</font>

206
00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:04,783
<font size="41">{\an1}of a life of my dreams,"
you know?</font>

207
00:13:04,867 --> 00:13:06,452
<font size="41">{\an1}And then on another hand,
it was like,</font>

208
00:13:06,535 --> 00:13:09,914
<font size="41">{\an1}"Where is my protection?
Where is everybody?"</font>

209
00:13:09,997 --> 00:13:13,626
<font size="41">{\an1}I lived to dance, so we'd go to
these huge, huge clubs in Paris</font>

210
00:13:13,709 --> 00:13:15,127
<font size="41">{\an1}and dance.</font>

211
00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:19,089
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, hit on a bunch
of times by people way too old.</font>

212
00:13:19,173 --> 00:13:21,675
<font size="41">{\an1}Guys asking me to give them
blowjobs in the bathroom.</font>

213
00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:22,885
<font size="41">{\an1}And I'm just like...</font>

214
00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,976
<font size="41">{\an1}Everyone was just so excited</font>

215
00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:32,895
<font size="41">{\an1}about what was going on
with music</font>

216
00:13:32,978 --> 00:13:36,649
<font size="41">{\an1}and with the taking-off
of my career, I think,</font>

217
00:13:36,732 --> 00:13:38,734
<font size="41">{\an1}that it became really enticing.</font>

218
00:13:38,817 --> 00:13:40,736
<font size="41">{\an1}ANNOUNCER: A gold record!</font>

219
00:13:40,819 --> 00:13:44,740
<font size="41">{\an1}Representing sales
of over 50,000 copies</font>

220
00:13:44,823 --> 00:13:47,743
<font size="41">{\an1}of her MCA debut album, Alanis.</font>

221
00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:54,667
<font size="41">{\an1}I remember when I was, like,
15 or 16,</font>

222
00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:58,003
<font size="41">{\an1}I started gaining weight because
I was going through puberty.</font>

223
00:13:58,087 --> 00:14:02,132
<font size="41">{\an1}And I was called in to
the studio to "redo my vocals",</font>

224
00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:03,759
<font size="41">{\an1}and when I got there...</font>

225
00:14:04,802 --> 00:14:06,178
<font size="41">{\an1}the producer said...</font>

226
00:14:08,222 --> 00:14:09,515
<font size="41">{\an1}"We're not doing vocals.</font>

227
00:14:09,598 --> 00:14:11,392
<font size="41">{\an1}We're here to talk
about your weight."</font>

228
00:14:19,483 --> 00:14:21,819
<font size="41">{\an1}Whenever I would go
to a video shoot,</font>

229
00:14:21,902 --> 00:14:24,738
<font size="41">{\an1}I remember sneaking
Velveeta slice-- cheese slices</font>

230
00:14:24,822 --> 00:14:27,575
<font size="41">{\an1}from the fridge
at 3:00 in the morning.</font>

231
00:14:27,658 --> 00:14:30,578
<font size="41">{\an1}And then the next morning
would come, and...</font>

232
00:14:30,661 --> 00:14:32,705
<font size="41">{\an1}he would walk in and count them</font>

233
00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:37,334
<font size="41">{\an1}and say, "Did you eat two slices
of cheese during the night?"</font>

234
00:14:37,418 --> 00:14:40,254
<font size="41">{\an1}We'd go out to eat, he'd have
a whole-size large pizza,</font>

235
00:14:40,337 --> 00:14:42,798
<font size="41">{\an1}and I was allowed to buy
a black coffee,</font>

236
00:14:42,881 --> 00:14:44,258
<font size="41">{\an1}but I couldn't put milk in it.</font>

237
00:14:46,510 --> 00:14:48,262
<font size="41">{\an1}So, yeah, that kick-started</font>

238
00:14:48,345 --> 00:14:50,764
<font size="41">{\an1}a massive eating disorder
journey for me.</font>

239
00:14:54,226 --> 00:14:57,730
<font size="41">{\an1}I've been in active recovery
for this eating disorder</font>

240
00:14:57,813 --> 00:14:58,981
<font size="41">{\an1}my whole life.</font>

241
00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,823
<font size="41">{\an1}My two best friends were
Steph Gibson and Cynthia Smith.</font>

242
00:15:07,906 --> 00:15:10,868
<font size="41">{\an1}Cynthia's a good singer too.
She's underestimating herself.</font>

243
00:15:10,951 --> 00:15:12,578
<font size="41">{\an1}-(ALL GIGGLE)
-Nah.</font>

244
00:15:12,661 --> 00:15:14,955
<font size="41">{\an1}-STEPH GIBSON: Sure. (LAUGHS)
-Steph's coming on the road
with me for sure.</font>

245
00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:16,248
<font size="41">{\an1}Yeah, right.</font>

246
00:15:17,958 --> 00:15:19,877
<font size="41">{\an1}STEPH: I don't know
that she opened up</font>

247
00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:25,507
<font size="41">{\an1}even to us 100 percent with what
she was going through in life.</font>

248
00:15:25,591 --> 00:15:29,178
<font size="41">{\an1}She probably struggled a lot,
but, you know,</font>

249
00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:30,554
<font size="41">{\an1}not a lot of people knew.</font>

250
00:15:31,889 --> 00:15:34,725
<font size="41">{\an1}And Steph was the one
that basically</font>

251
00:15:34,808 --> 00:15:38,062
<font size="41">{\an1}caught me sticking my finger
down my throat.</font>

252
00:15:38,145 --> 00:15:40,147
<font size="41">{\an1}I just wrapped
my arms around her</font>

253
00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:42,691
<font size="41">{\an1}and gave her a big hug,
and, you know,</font>

254
00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:46,278
<font size="41">{\an1}I think she knew at that point
that I was there for her,</font>

255
00:15:46,362 --> 00:15:49,823
<font size="41">{\an1}and I would help
in any way I could.</font>

256
00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:52,660
<font size="41">{\an1}It was the first time that
anyone said a word about it.</font>

257
00:15:54,411 --> 00:15:57,122
<font size="41">{\an1}I'll be grateful to her
forever for that,</font>

258
00:15:57,206 --> 00:15:58,582
<font size="41">{\an1}because there was no shame.</font>

259
00:15:58,665 --> 00:16:00,626
<font size="41">{\an1}It wasn't like, "What are
you doing?"</font>

260
00:16:00,709 --> 00:16:03,545
<font size="41">{\an1}It was like, "Should we
talk about this?"</font>

261
00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:04,755
<font size="41">{\an1}So sweet.</font>

262
00:16:06,298 --> 00:16:09,093
<font size="41">{\an1}I could see why somebody would
pick you out from the crowd.</font>

263
00:16:09,176 --> 00:16:11,887
<font size="41">{\an1}-The camera does like you.
-Well, thanks.</font>

264
00:16:11,970 --> 00:16:15,641
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Why is true love
Just so hard to find? ♪</font>

265
00:16:15,724 --> 00:16:17,726
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
Something about me being 15,</font>

266
00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:20,104
<font size="41">{\an1}that's when I really
started to be hit on.</font>

267
00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:23,315
<font size="41">{\an1}Twelve, they were
a little scared.</font>

268
00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:25,150
<font size="41">{\an1}Thirteen, they were
a little scared,</font>

269
00:16:25,234 --> 00:16:26,860
<font size="41">{\an1}but they'd still, you know...</font>

270
00:16:26,944 --> 00:16:29,613
<font size="41">{\an1}Fourteen, less scary,
but still scary.</font>

271
00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:31,365
<font size="41">{\an1}Fifteen, all bets were off.</font>

272
00:16:31,448 --> 00:16:34,576
<font size="41">{\an1}Somehow that seemed
like a safer number for people.</font>

273
00:16:36,954 --> 00:16:39,164
<font size="41">{\an1}I was a young girl in a studio</font>

274
00:16:39,248 --> 00:16:41,792
<font size="41">{\an1}from 3:30 or 4:00 p.m. every day</font>

275
00:16:41,875 --> 00:16:43,627
<font size="41">{\an1}till 3:00 in the morning.</font>

276
00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:46,755
<font size="41">{\an1}You know,
you don't leave her alone.</font>

277
00:16:47,881 --> 00:16:49,383
<font size="41">{\an1}I just thought it was...</font>

278
00:16:50,592 --> 00:16:54,304
<font size="41">{\an1}my fault, because almost
every single person</font>

279
00:16:54,388 --> 00:16:57,141
<font size="41">{\an1}that I would work with,</font>

280
00:16:57,224 --> 00:16:58,851
<font size="41">{\an1}there would be some
turning point</font>

281
00:16:58,934 --> 00:17:01,103
<font size="41">{\an1}where the camera would
go Dutch angle.</font>

282
00:17:01,186 --> 00:17:03,105
<font size="41">{\an1}And I would just wait for it.
I was like,</font>

283
00:17:03,188 --> 00:17:05,941
<font size="41">{\an1}"Okay, this won't happen in
the first week for this one,</font>

284
00:17:06,023 --> 00:17:08,694
<font size="41">{\an1}but it'll happen," you know?
And then sure enough, it would,</font>

285
00:17:08,777 --> 00:17:11,238
<font size="41">{\an1}and it would either
end the relationship,</font>

286
00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,240
<font size="41">{\an1}or then there would be
just some big secret</font>

287
00:17:13,323 --> 00:17:15,242
<font size="41">{\an1}that we'd keep forever.</font>

288
00:17:15,325 --> 00:17:17,869
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("REAL WORLD"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

289
00:17:17,953 --> 00:17:19,788
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's not a game ♪</font>

290
00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:23,333
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: We went to shoot a video
for a song called "Real World".</font>

291
00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:26,377
<font size="41">{\an1}The snake video. (CHUCKLES)</font>

292
00:17:27,628 --> 00:17:31,467
<font size="41">{\an1}MCA Records did not know
what category I would fit in</font>

293
00:17:31,550 --> 00:17:35,929
<font size="41">{\an1}as I was evolving
from performer, pop princess.</font>

294
00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:37,890
<font size="41">{\an1}You know,
they could handle that.</font>

295
00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:42,144
<font size="41">{\an1}I was really starting
to write my own material,</font>

296
00:17:42,227 --> 00:17:44,188
<font size="41">{\an1}and it was just going
in way too different</font>

297
00:17:44,271 --> 00:17:45,606
<font size="41">{\an1}of a direction for them.</font>

298
00:17:45,689 --> 00:17:47,733
<font size="41">{\an1}And a couple
of the head people there,</font>

299
00:17:47,816 --> 00:17:49,026
<font size="41">{\an1}I remember they pulled me aside,</font>

300
00:17:49,109 --> 00:17:52,279
<font size="41">{\an1}and they said, "What are you
doing with these new songs?</font>

301
00:17:52,362 --> 00:17:55,073
<font size="41">{\an1}You should just keep doing
what you've been doing,</font>

302
00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:56,283
<font size="41">{\an1}what people know you as</font>

303
00:17:56,366 --> 00:17:58,869
<font size="41">{\an1}and what Uncle John Alexander
wants you to do."</font>

304
00:18:03,707 --> 00:18:06,710
<font size="41">{\an1}I was in my apartment
in Toronto...</font>

305
00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:10,464
<font size="41">{\an1}and I got a phone call.
"MCA's dropping you."</font>

306
00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:14,009
<font size="41">{\an1}It was really terrifying
and painful</font>

307
00:18:14,092 --> 00:18:16,053
<font size="41">{\an1}because I was standing up
to all these people</font>

308
00:18:16,136 --> 00:18:19,598
<font size="41">{\an1}who had a very clear way
of doing it the way they wanted.</font>

309
00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:22,267
<font size="41">{\an1}You know,
I had that people-please-y,</font>

310
00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:23,477
<font size="41">{\an1}smiling-all-the-time thing,</font>

311
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,562
<font size="41">{\an1}but underneath it was
this churning</font>

312
00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:28,273
<font size="41">{\an1}of how out-of-integrity
so much felt.</font>

313
00:18:34,321 --> 00:18:37,115
<font size="41">{\an1}This is a song called
"Right Through You".</font>

314
00:18:37,199 --> 00:18:42,454
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("RIGHT THROUGH YOU"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

315
00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:46,458
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Wait a minute, man ♪</font>

316
00:18:47,459 --> 00:18:50,504
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You mispronounced my name ♪</font>

317
00:18:50,587 --> 00:18:53,715
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You didn't wait for
All the information ♪</font>

318
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,635
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Before you turned me away ♪</font>

319
00:18:56,718 --> 00:18:58,762
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Wait a minute, sir ♪</font>

320
00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:02,599
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You kind of hurt my feelings ♪</font>

321
00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,602
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You see me as a sweet
Back-loaded puppet ♪</font>

322
00:19:05,686 --> 00:19:08,480
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And you've got
Meal-ticket taste ♪</font>

323
00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:12,943
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I see right through you ♪</font>

324
00:19:14,611 --> 00:19:20,200
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I know right through you ♪</font>

325
00:19:20,284 --> 00:19:24,621
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I feel right through you ♪</font>

326
00:19:26,748 --> 00:19:31,336
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I walk right through you ♪</font>

327
00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:33,505
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

328
00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:47,769
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You took me for a joke, yeah ♪</font>

329
00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:49,897
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You took me for a child ♪</font>

330
00:19:50,981 --> 00:19:53,942
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You took a long hard look
At my ass ♪</font>

331
00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:56,737
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And then played golf
For a while ♪</font>

332
00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:58,572
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Your shake is like a fish ♪</font>

333
00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,409
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You pat me on the head ♪</font>

334
00:20:02,492 --> 00:20:05,746
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You took me out
To wine, dine, 69 me ♪</font>

335
00:20:05,829 --> 00:20:08,749
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ But didn't hear
A damn word I said ♪</font>

336
00:20:08,832 --> 00:20:12,461
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I see right through you ♪</font>

337
00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:14,463
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: The early part
of my songwriting,</font>

338
00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:17,341
<font size="41">{\an1}I was working with people
who said I couldn't write.</font>

339
00:20:19,343 --> 00:20:23,597
<font size="41">{\an1}One of the liberating factors
to being dropped by MCA Records</font>

340
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,557
<font size="41">{\an1}was that I promised myself</font>

341
00:20:25,641 --> 00:20:28,018
<font size="41">{\an1}that I would not stop
until I was in a room</font>

342
00:20:28,101 --> 00:20:29,978
<font size="41">{\an1}with someone who saw me
as a writer,</font>

343
00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:32,606
<font size="41">{\an1}saw me as a human being
expressing herself.</font>

344
00:20:32,689 --> 00:20:33,815
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You ♪</font>

345
00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:37,027
<font size="41">{\an1}-♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
-(APPLAUSE)</font>

346
00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:48,163
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
Ooh, that smells like travel.</font>

347
00:20:48,246 --> 00:20:51,375
<font size="41">{\an1}-EJ DEVONKAITIS:
I knew it wasn't just luggage.
-(ALANIS LAUGHS)</font>

348
00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:53,919
<font size="41">{\an1}-There are some boxes mixed in.
-(GASPS) How exciting.</font>

349
00:20:56,964 --> 00:20:59,675
<font size="41">{\an1}This is my record
from when I was, um...</font>

350
00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:01,176
<font size="41">{\an1}ten and 11.</font>

351
00:21:02,427 --> 00:21:05,430
<font size="41">{\an1}That's how I wrote it.
On that thing.</font>

352
00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:07,140
<font size="41">{\an1}It's a Fostex 4-track,</font>

353
00:21:07,224 --> 00:21:09,059
<font size="41">{\an1}and you literally record it
on a cassette tape</font>

354
00:21:09,142 --> 00:21:12,187
<font size="41">{\an1}that would go backwards
and forwards,
like a reel-to-reel.</font>

355
00:21:12,896 --> 00:21:14,106
<font size="41">{\an1}(LAUGHS)</font>

356
00:21:14,189 --> 00:21:16,441
<font size="41">{\an1}It's the only thing I could...
(CHUCKLES)</font>

357
00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:19,152
<font size="41">{\an1}It was simple enough
for me to engineer.</font>

358
00:21:27,244 --> 00:21:28,662
<font size="41">{\an1}It's such a fucking good movie.</font>

359
00:21:28,745 --> 00:21:31,164
<font size="41">{\an1}When I read the script,
I was like, "Are you joking?</font>

360
00:21:31,248 --> 00:21:32,582
<font size="41">{\an1}This is the greatest script."</font>

361
00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:36,211
<font size="41">{\an1}Post-Catholic stress disorder
was very validated.</font>

362
00:21:41,925 --> 00:21:44,678
<font size="41">{\an1}When I first moved
to Los Angeles.</font>

363
00:21:44,761 --> 00:21:47,347
<font size="41">{\an1}Oh, this is just before
the mayhem.</font>

364
00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:51,935
<font size="41">{\an1}Aw.</font>

365
00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:58,025
<font size="41">{\an1}Letters to and from
all my ex-boyfriends.</font>

366
00:22:00,902 --> 00:22:03,780
<font size="41">{\an1}(CHUCKLES) "Dear Alanis..."</font>

367
00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:07,826
<font size="41">{\an1}Ooh! I need to sage myself
tonight. (LAUGHS)</font>

368
00:22:08,368 --> 00:22:09,786
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay, let's see.</font>

369
00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:12,789
<font size="41">{\an1}Oh yeah, this is all writing
Jagged Little Pill.</font>

370
00:22:15,083 --> 00:22:17,669
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, there's gonna be
some gems in here.</font>

371
00:22:18,837 --> 00:22:21,298
<font size="41">{\an1}This is the first version
of "Ironic" right here.</font>

372
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,635
<font size="41">{\an1}And the first version
of "Perfect".</font>

373
00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:28,972
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, it's basically what's on
the record, is the truth.</font>

374
00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:32,350
<font size="41">{\an1}May 27, 1994.</font>

375
00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:39,066
<font size="41">{\an1}I was dying to go to Los Angeles</font>

376
00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:42,110
<font size="41">{\an1}because I felt as though I could
start with a clean slate.</font>

377
00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:45,238
<font size="41">{\an1}People wouldn't have
any preconceived notions of,</font>

378
00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:47,282
<font size="41">{\an1}"Oh, you can't be anything other
than who you were</font>

379
00:22:47,365 --> 00:22:49,367
<font size="41">{\an1}when you were 15.
What are you, crazy?"</font>

380
00:22:56,708 --> 00:22:59,586
<font size="41">{\an1}I think the cultural difference
between Canada and America</font>

381
00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:02,380
<font size="41">{\an1}was severely underestimated.</font>

382
00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:06,009
<font size="41">{\an1}The old saying, "LA can make you
or break you" is very true.</font>

383
00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:08,553
<font size="41">{\an1}I think that I've learned a lot
from that city.</font>

384
00:23:08,637 --> 00:23:09,763
<font size="41">{\an1}I've learned how
to be assertive,</font>

385
00:23:09,846 --> 00:23:11,765
<font size="41">{\an1}I've learned to stand up
for what I believe in.</font>

386
00:23:11,848 --> 00:23:13,475
<font size="41">{\an1}I've learned to walk away
from environments</font>

387
00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:15,852
<font size="41">{\an1}that are just not happening.</font>

388
00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:17,354
<font size="41">{\an1}I used to spend time
with anyone,</font>

389
00:23:17,437 --> 00:23:19,564
<font size="41">{\an1}regardless of how
I felt with them.</font>

390
00:23:19,648 --> 00:23:21,525
<font size="41">{\an1}And... I don't know.</font>

391
00:23:21,608 --> 00:23:23,985
<font size="41">{\an1}It's helped me to be able
to spend time with people</font>

392
00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:26,738
<font size="41">{\an1}that it's a mutually gratifying
kind of relationship.</font>

393
00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:32,744
<font size="41">{\an1}I co-wrote with...</font>

394
00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:38,250
<font size="41">{\an1}maybe four people in LA.
And then I met Glen.</font>

395
00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:41,878
<font size="41">{\an1}When I met Alanis,
and she was 19 years old...</font>

396
00:23:41,962 --> 00:23:44,214
<font size="41">{\an1}not knowing exactly
what she wanted to do,</font>

397
00:23:44,297 --> 00:23:47,050
<font size="41">{\an1}but she knew damn well
what she did not want to do.</font>

398
00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:49,970
<font size="41">{\an1}And she didn't want
to be stuck into a machine...</font>

399
00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:53,181
<font size="41">{\an1}Big hair and dance moves.</font>

400
00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:55,767
<font size="41">{\an1}She was looking for somebody
to be an artist with.</font>

401
00:23:55,851 --> 00:23:58,353
<font size="41">{\an1}We talked very briefly, and then
went straight to the studio</font>

402
00:23:58,436 --> 00:24:00,772
<font size="41">{\an1}and wrote "The Bottom Line".</font>

403
00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:05,318
<font size="41">{\an1}(LAUGHING)
It's verse and chorus.</font>

404
00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:08,780
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("THE BOTTOM LINE"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

405
00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:17,622
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ If somebody asked you
To surrender ♪</font>

406
00:24:17,706 --> 00:24:24,004
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And that was the only way
To win ♪</font>

407
00:24:24,087 --> 00:24:30,635
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ If somebody offered you
The freedom to ♪</font>

408
00:24:31,469 --> 00:24:36,933
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Open your mind again ♪</font>

409
00:24:37,017 --> 00:24:43,190
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Would you take that flight?
Would you walk right in? ♪</font>

410
00:24:43,273 --> 00:24:49,613
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ So meet me down
At the bottom line ♪</font>

411
00:24:49,696 --> 00:24:55,202
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And open my heart
With your hands ♪</font>

412
00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:58,371
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And we'll hear the sound ♪</font>

413
00:24:58,455 --> 00:25:02,250
<font size="41">{\an1}-♪ Of pretenses falling ♪
-♪ Of pretenses falling ♪</font>

414
00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:05,086
<font size="41">{\an1}Oh, what a line.
Oh shit.</font>

415
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:07,047
<font size="41">{\an1}I want to work with you.
(LAUGHS)</font>

416
00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:11,885
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Down at the bottom... ♪</font>

417
00:25:11,968 --> 00:25:13,845
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: The way she was able
to turn phrases just, like,</font>

418
00:25:13,929 --> 00:25:16,890
<font size="41">{\an1}right out of her psyche.
She's just a gifted writer.</font>

419
00:25:18,141 --> 00:25:21,394
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: His begged question was,
"Who are you?</font>

420
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:22,687
<font size="41">{\an1}What do you want
to write about?</font>

421
00:25:22,771 --> 00:25:27,025
<font size="41">{\an1}What's going on for you?"
And what a lovely prompt.</font>

422
00:25:27,108 --> 00:25:29,236
<font size="41">{\an1}No one's ever
asked me that ever.</font>

423
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:32,405
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: I didn't have a budget,
so I just recorded it myself.</font>

424
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:34,157
<font size="41">{\an1}We did the demo
right on the spot.</font>

425
00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:36,826
<font size="41">{\an1}She went in and sang it.
That was our first day.</font>

426
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:46,211
<font size="41">{\an1}Between February of 1994
and February of 1995,</font>

427
00:25:46,294 --> 00:25:48,964
<font size="41">{\an1}twenty separate occasions,
that's it.</font>

428
00:25:49,047 --> 00:25:51,466
<font size="41">{\an1}Twenty sessions, twenty songs.</font>

429
00:25:51,549 --> 00:25:54,886
<font size="41">{\an1}-ALANIS: (LAUGHS) Ready?
-GLEN: "You Learn".</font>

430
00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:56,888
<font size="41">{\an1}Yeah, let's do it.</font>

431
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,229
<font size="41">{\an1}In every way, it was like
a secret, handmade project</font>

432
00:26:04,312 --> 00:26:07,065
<font size="41">{\an1}that we just kind of
amused ourselves with.</font>

433
00:26:09,192 --> 00:26:10,443
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm just sitting down,</font>

434
00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:13,321
<font size="41">{\an1}dialing up a beat,
playing something on guitar.</font>

435
00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:14,781
<font size="41">{\an1}She starts singing.</font>

436
00:26:14,864 --> 00:26:16,783
<font size="41">{\an1}Eight hours later,
I would have the music right,</font>

437
00:26:16,866 --> 00:26:18,618
<font size="41">{\an1}she would have the lyrics right.</font>

438
00:26:18,702 --> 00:26:20,120
<font size="41">{\an1}She'd be ready to sing it.</font>

439
00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:23,498
<font size="41">{\an1}That was the track.</font>

440
00:26:26,209 --> 00:26:27,836
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: Sometimes the song
would start</font>

441
00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:29,045
<font size="41">{\an1}before we were even ready.</font>

442
00:26:29,129 --> 00:26:32,007
<font size="41">{\an1}Like, he'd hit a chord,
and I'd be like... (STUTTERS)</font>

443
00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:33,466
<font size="41">{\an1}You know?</font>

444
00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:35,176
<font size="41">{\an1}And then I'd start recording.</font>

445
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:38,305
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It feels so good ♪</font>

446
00:26:38,388 --> 00:26:40,974
<font size="41">{\an1}Once a song is written,</font>

447
00:26:41,057 --> 00:26:44,352
<font size="41">{\an1}I think I maybe changed lyrics
after the fact</font>

448
00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:45,854
<font size="41">{\an1}maybe twice in my whole career.</font>

449
00:26:45,937 --> 00:26:48,565
<font size="41">{\an1}So they're pretty locked in
once it's written.</font>

450
00:26:48,648 --> 00:26:51,192
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You love, you learn ♪</font>

451
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:52,360
<font size="41">{\an1}When I would drive home,</font>

452
00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:53,987
<font size="41">{\an1}I would listen to the song
we worked on that day,</font>

453
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:55,363
<font size="41">{\an1}and I wouldn't remember
having written it.</font>

454
00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:56,740
<font size="41">{\an1}So it was almost like
it would be</font>

455
00:26:56,823 --> 00:26:59,534
<font size="41">{\an1}wiped out of my memory
the second it was finished.</font>

456
00:26:59,617 --> 00:27:00,827
<font size="41">{\an1}And I loved that process,</font>

457
00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:03,204
<font size="41">{\an1}because I could actually
listen to these songs</font>

458
00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:06,875
<font size="41">{\an1}with objectivity at the time.
Like, almost directly after.</font>

459
00:27:11,671 --> 00:27:13,465
<font size="41">{\an1}Without even knowing
I was doing it,</font>

460
00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:16,885
<font size="41">{\an1}I was carving out my voice.</font>

461
00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:19,888
<font size="41">{\an1}I love going inside,
so that's not dangerous to me.</font>

462
00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:23,183
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm not terrified of going in.
In fact, the scarier it is,</font>

463
00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:25,268
<font size="41">{\an1}the more I know that
I've hit pay dirt.</font>

464
00:27:29,773 --> 00:27:31,358
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: We couldn't get signed.</font>

465
00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:34,778
<font size="41">{\an1}Every major record company,
and all the secondary ones,</font>

466
00:27:34,861 --> 00:27:37,113
<font size="41">{\an1}everybody rejected us.</font>

467
00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:38,698
<font size="41">{\an1}In November, we wrote,
"You Oughta Know",</font>

468
00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:40,950
<font size="41">{\an1}"Head Over Feet",
"Hand in My Pocket".</font>

469
00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:42,702
<font size="41">{\an1}We were on this,
like, major roll.</font>

470
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,830
<font size="41">{\an1}Everybody was kind of like,
"Yeah, it's, like...
(MIMICKING)</font>

471
00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:47,957
<font size="41">{\an1}I don't know. What's her look?"</font>

472
00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:53,088
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
After multiple rejections,</font>

473
00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:55,799
<font size="41">{\an1}I just said, "Hey, could we...</font>

474
00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:58,551
<font size="41">{\an1}Can you just leave us alone?
And we're just gonna write."</font>

475
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:02,722
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: When she went back
to Canada for Christmas,</font>

476
00:28:02,806 --> 00:28:05,600
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't think I would actually
ever see her again.</font>

477
00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:09,270
<font size="41">{\an1}Somehow, they arranged
one more trip back for her.</font>

478
00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:13,483
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("ALL I REALLY WANT"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

479
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:21,908
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: When she came back
from Canada, she was pale...</font>

480
00:28:21,991 --> 00:28:24,994
<font size="41">{\an1}rail-thin, and she walked
in my studio,</font>

481
00:28:25,078 --> 00:28:27,080
<font size="41">{\an1}and she had her sweater on
backwards...</font>

482
00:28:27,163 --> 00:28:28,498
<font size="41">{\an1}and inside out.</font>

483
00:28:29,290 --> 00:28:31,793
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Do I stress you out? ♪</font>

484
00:28:31,876 --> 00:28:34,879
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ My sweater is on backwards
And inside out ♪</font>

485
00:28:34,963 --> 00:28:38,550
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And you say
How appropriate ♪</font>

486
00:28:40,093 --> 00:28:43,471
<font size="41">{\an1}Oh shit, she's still on it.
Even though she's suffering,</font>

487
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:45,723
<font size="41">{\an1}like, she's still got
this thing, you know?</font>

488
00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:47,308
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And all I really want ♪</font>

489
00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:49,686
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is some patience ♪</font>

490
00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:53,898
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ A way to calm
The angry voice ♪</font>

491
00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:57,360
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And all I really want ♪</font>

492
00:28:58,319 --> 00:28:59,946
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is deliverance ♪</font>

493
00:29:00,947 --> 00:29:04,617
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

494
00:29:05,994 --> 00:29:07,620
<font size="41">{\an1}I remember when I first
played the record</font>

495
00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:08,663
<font size="41">{\an1}and it was done to some people,</font>

496
00:29:08,746 --> 00:29:11,291
<font size="41">{\an1}they were like,
"This record is too--</font>

497
00:29:11,374 --> 00:29:13,793
<font size="41">{\an1}It's too in-your-face.
It's too urgent.</font>

498
00:29:13,877 --> 00:29:15,837
<font size="41">{\an1}It's too emotional," you know?</font>

499
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,132
<font size="41">{\an1}And I'm just like,
"Well, I am that right now.</font>

500
00:29:19,215 --> 00:29:20,800
<font size="41">{\an1}And when I'm 34, I won't be,</font>

501
00:29:20,884 --> 00:29:22,677
<font size="41">{\an1}and you won't get
a record like that."</font>

502
00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:34,522
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY OSEARY:
Hi, can I order some sushi?</font>

503
00:29:35,648 --> 00:29:39,277
<font size="41">{\an1}I started at Maverick
at the age of 18.</font>

504
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,156
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't really know much
about the music business.</font>

505
00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:45,783
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay, hold on.
I'll call right back.</font>

506
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:48,912
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay, stop filming.</font>

507
00:29:48,995 --> 00:29:51,206
<font size="41">{\an1}-I got some serious news.
-(ALANIS LAUGHING)</font>

508
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:53,416
<font size="41">{\an1}-What?
-I can't tell you on film.</font>

509
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:54,667
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't even know
what I was doing.</font>

510
00:29:54,751 --> 00:29:57,795
<font size="41">{\an1}I had a briefcase
that said "Wise Guy Records".</font>

511
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,214
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't even know
what that meant.</font>

512
00:29:59,297 --> 00:30:00,882
<font size="41">{\an1}I just thought, "Wise guy..."</font>

513
00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:04,552
<font size="41">{\an1}My job was to find talent
and then develop it.</font>

514
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:08,389
<font size="41">{\an1}And then help that talent, um,
reach an audience.</font>

515
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:11,684
<font size="41">{\an1}We get a call from the lawyers,</font>

516
00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:15,605
<font size="41">{\an1}and they said, "We have a young
executive at Maverick,</font>

517
00:30:15,688 --> 00:30:19,317
<font size="41">{\an1}Madonna's label. Just go play
this shit for them."</font>

518
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,444
<font size="41">{\an1}And I said, "We can't come."</font>

519
00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:26,115
<font size="41">{\an1}"We're writing a song right now,
and I am not presentable."</font>

520
00:30:26,199 --> 00:30:28,952
<font size="41">{\an1}And he said,
"No, you got to go."</font>

521
00:30:30,411 --> 00:30:31,913
<font size="41">{\an1}I think she was in workouts.</font>

522
00:30:31,996 --> 00:30:34,207
<font size="41">{\an1}I just picked up the acoustic
guitar, threw it in the car,</font>

523
00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:36,459
<font size="41">{\an1}and we drove over
to Maverick Records.</font>

524
00:30:36,543 --> 00:30:42,715
<font size="41">{\an1}I go up to grab Alanis,
and she was there with Glen.</font>

525
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,927
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm like, "Oh, okay, that's--"
I thought they were a band.</font>

526
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:48,096
<font size="41">{\an1}It looked very, like,
could be hippie-ish.</font>

527
00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:49,847
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm not even sure
what's going on here.</font>

528
00:30:49,931 --> 00:30:52,183
<font size="41">{\an1}Like-- But, okay.</font>

529
00:30:52,267 --> 00:30:54,936
<font size="41">{\an1}And then we just walked into
Guy's office right at the end.</font>

530
00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:58,064
<font size="41">{\an1}He's like a guy that
I went to high school with.</font>

531
00:30:58,147 --> 00:31:00,400
<font size="41">{\an1}But, you know, he went to
Beverly High School,</font>

532
00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:02,068
<font size="41">{\an1}so he's got a little
more experience.</font>

533
00:31:02,151 --> 00:31:03,611
<font size="41">{\an1}He's hanging out with Madonna.</font>

534
00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:08,032
<font size="41">{\an1}They put in a cassette tape.</font>

535
00:31:08,116 --> 00:31:10,660
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("PERFECT"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

536
00:31:10,743 --> 00:31:13,204
<font size="41">{\an1}First song I heard
was "Perfect".</font>

537
00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:16,291
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Sometimes ♪</font>

538
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:21,629
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is never quite enough ♪</font>

539
00:31:24,424 --> 00:31:26,426
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ If you're flawless ♪</font>

540
00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:34,100
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Then you'll win my love ♪</font>

541
00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:40,273
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Don't forget to win
First place ♪</font>

542
00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:43,526
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Don't forget to keep... ♪</font>

543
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:46,404
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY: Within 30 seconds,
everything changed.</font>

544
00:31:47,155 --> 00:31:49,991
<font size="41">{\an1}I was already floored.</font>

545
00:31:50,074 --> 00:31:51,784
<font size="41">{\an1}I had not heard
anything like it.</font>

546
00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:57,165
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Try a little harder... ♪</font>

547
00:31:57,248 --> 00:32:05,006
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY: The simplicity of the way
she was able to narrate...</font>

548
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:09,677
<font size="41">{\an1}yet how complex it was
at the same time.</font>

549
00:32:13,389 --> 00:32:16,017
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ How long ♪</font>

550
00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:20,647
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Before you screw it up? ♪</font>

551
00:32:22,315 --> 00:32:23,900
<font size="41">{\an1}Wow, we started with...</font>

552
00:32:23,983 --> 00:32:25,985
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Sometimes ♪</font>

553
00:32:26,069 --> 00:32:29,322
<font size="41">{\an1}And then we get into...
♪ Before you screw it up ♪</font>

554
00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:30,907
<font size="41">{\an1}And you're like,
"Wait, what?"</font>

555
00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:34,035
<font size="41">{\an1}She goes a little edgy there.</font>

556
00:32:34,118 --> 00:32:37,497
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

557
00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:39,082
<font size="41">{\an1}And then comes back down again.</font>

558
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:43,252
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That wasn't fast enough ♪</font>

559
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:46,589
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: The song "Perfect"
is the plight
of the overachiever.</font>

560
00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:51,052
<font size="41">{\an1}Having to be perfect according
to some odd, random standard</font>

561
00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:53,012
<font size="41">{\an1}and that you're innately bad.</font>

562
00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:55,973
<font size="41">{\an1}I had to comment on it.</font>

563
00:32:58,351 --> 00:32:59,852
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY: I said, "I'm in."</font>

564
00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:02,397
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't have to hear any more.
"I love it. I'm all-in."</font>

565
00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:06,234
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ If you're perfect ♪</font>

566
00:33:08,778 --> 00:33:11,239
<font size="41">{\an1}I knew it was Madonna's
boutique label,</font>

567
00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:12,365
<font size="41">{\an1}so I was just, you know,</font>

568
00:33:12,448 --> 00:33:13,700
<font size="41">{\an1}"How's this place
gonna be decorated?"</font>

569
00:33:13,783 --> 00:33:15,702
<font size="41">{\an1}And, you know, it was super hip.</font>

570
00:33:15,785 --> 00:33:17,453
<font size="41">{\an1}Although I do remember her
coming in at one point</font>

571
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:19,038
<font size="41">{\an1}and turning the light on.</font>

572
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:20,707
<font size="41">{\an1}And the whole thing fell,
and she's like,</font>

573
00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:23,418
<font size="41">{\an1}"Fucking cheap place." (LAUGHS)</font>

574
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:25,294
<font size="41">{\an1}And I had been held up
at gunpoint</font>

575
00:33:25,378 --> 00:33:27,463
<font size="41">{\an1}just before this meeting
with her.</font>

576
00:33:29,132 --> 00:33:31,259
<font size="41">{\an1}And when I walked in, you know,
they were kind of whispery,</font>

577
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,094
<font size="41">{\an1}like, "Hey, she just got held up
at gunpoint.</font>

578
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:34,887
<font size="41">{\an1}She's a little PTSD, you know?"</font>

579
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:36,723
<font size="41">{\an1}And she was like,
"I want to-- (SCOFFS)</font>

580
00:33:36,806 --> 00:33:38,433
<font size="41">{\an1}"I want to get held up
at gunpoint.</font>

581
00:33:38,516 --> 00:33:40,143
<font size="41">{\an1}That's just such a cool story.</font>

582
00:33:40,226 --> 00:33:42,228
<font size="41">{\an1}I want to be held up
at gunpoint."</font>

583
00:33:45,356 --> 00:33:47,066
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY: And I remember sending
a fax going,</font>

584
00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:49,277
<font size="41">{\an1}"Please, let's get this done."</font>

585
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,946
<font size="41">{\an1}This is--
I was so excited about it.</font>

586
00:33:53,823 --> 00:33:56,576
<font size="41">{\an1}I couldn't wait to have
people hear it.</font>

587
00:33:59,328 --> 00:34:00,830
<font size="41">{\an1}LISA: In the '90s,</font>

588
00:34:00,913 --> 00:34:04,375
<font size="41">{\an1}the way most listeners
found their new music</font>

589
00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:07,587
<font size="41">{\an1}and their new favorite bands
was the radio.</font>

590
00:34:10,630 --> 00:34:12,467
<font size="41">{\an1}For an artist to get their music
on KROQ,</font>

591
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:15,386
<font size="41">{\an1}it didn't just mean they could
get heard in Los Angeles.</font>

592
00:34:15,469 --> 00:34:18,598
<font size="41">{\an1}They knew it could mean,
"Oh, wow. If I get on there,</font>

593
00:34:18,681 --> 00:34:20,850
<font size="41">{\an1}I might be able to get on
all these other radio stations</font>

594
00:34:20,933 --> 00:34:23,518
<font size="41">{\an1}in the United States, possibly
stations outside of the US."</font>

595
00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:30,443
<font size="41">{\an1}Guy Oseary called and said,</font>

596
00:34:30,525 --> 00:34:32,904
<font size="41">{\an1}"We have got to play you
this new artist.</font>

597
00:34:32,987 --> 00:34:34,739
<font size="41">{\an1}She's incredible. We want
to play the music."</font>

598
00:34:34,822 --> 00:34:37,283
<font size="41">{\an1}And we're like, "Okay.
Yeah, sure, come on in."</font>

599
00:34:41,454 --> 00:34:43,331
<font size="41">{\an1}We always listen to music
at a ten.</font>

600
00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:44,498
<font size="41">{\an1}It was on full blast.</font>

601
00:34:44,581 --> 00:34:47,126
<font size="41">{\an1}And they played us
"You Oughta Know".</font>

602
00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:49,504
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("YOU OUGHTA KNOW"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

603
00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:52,005
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I want you to know ♪</font>

604
00:34:52,089 --> 00:34:55,927
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That I'm happy for you ♪</font>

605
00:34:56,803 --> 00:35:00,181
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I wish nothing but ♪</font>

606
00:35:01,015 --> 00:35:03,893
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ The best for you both ♪</font>

607
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,355
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ An older version of me ♪</font>

608
00:35:07,438 --> 00:35:09,315
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is she perverted like me? ♪</font>

609
00:35:09,398 --> 00:35:14,153
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Would she go down on you
In a theater? ♪</font>

610
00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:16,405
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Does she speak eloquently? ♪</font>

611
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:18,407
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And would she have
Your baby? ♪</font>

612
00:35:18,491 --> 00:35:23,621
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm sure she'd make a really
Excellent mother ♪</font>

613
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:25,706
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause the love that you gave
that we made ♪</font>

614
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:27,333
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Wasn't able
To make it enough ♪</font>

615
00:35:27,416 --> 00:35:29,836
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ For you to be open wide ♪</font>

616
00:35:30,837 --> 00:35:32,797
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ No ♪</font>

617
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,424
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And every time you speak
Her name ♪</font>

618
00:35:35,508 --> 00:35:38,886
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Does she know how you told me
You'd hold me until you died? ♪</font>

619
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:41,806
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Till you died
But you're still alive ♪</font>

620
00:35:41,889 --> 00:35:43,391
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And I'm here ♪</font>

621
00:35:44,350 --> 00:35:45,935
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To remind you ♪</font>

622
00:35:46,018 --> 00:35:50,690
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Of the mess you left
When you went away ♪</font>

623
00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:53,150
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's not fair ♪</font>

624
00:35:53,234 --> 00:35:55,278
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To deny me ♪</font>

625
00:35:55,361 --> 00:35:59,365
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Of the cross I bear
That you gave to me ♪</font>

626
00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:02,743
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You, you, you oughta know ♪</font>

627
00:36:03,452 --> 00:36:04,871
<font size="41">{\an1}LISA: The room is, like,</font>

628
00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:09,083
<font size="41">{\an1}eyes popping out of our heads,
going, "Holy crap.</font>

629
00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:11,586
<font size="41">{\an1}We got to hear that
on the radio."</font>

630
00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:13,921
<font size="41">{\an1}We walked the CD down the hall,</font>

631
00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:16,215
<font size="41">{\an1}basically interrupted
the whole hour,</font>

632
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:17,383
<font size="41">{\an1}handed it to the DJ and said,</font>

633
00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:19,468
<font size="41">{\an1}"Brand-new artist,
her name is Alanis,</font>

634
00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:20,720
<font size="41">{\an1}you're gonna play this
right now."</font>

635
00:36:20,803 --> 00:36:24,932
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Did you forget about me
Mr. Duplicity? ♪</font>

636
00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:28,853
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I hate to bug you
In the middle of dinner ♪</font>

637
00:36:29,687 --> 00:36:31,898
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It was a slap in the face ♪</font>

638
00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:34,025
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ How quickly I was replaced ♪</font>

639
00:36:34,108 --> 00:36:38,779
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And are you thinking of me
When you fuck her? ♪</font>

640
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:42,241
<font size="41">{\an1}LISA: And the phone lines
blazed.</font>

641
00:36:42,325 --> 00:36:44,285
<font size="41">{\an1}"Who is that? Who is that?
What song is that?</font>

642
00:36:44,368 --> 00:36:46,871
<font size="41">{\an1}"Who was that?" I mean,
just boom, boom, boom,</font>

643
00:36:46,954 --> 00:36:48,331
<font size="41">{\an1}wanting to know what
they had just heard.</font>

644
00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:50,499
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And every time you speak
Her name ♪</font>

645
00:36:50,583 --> 00:36:53,961
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Does she know how you told me
You'd hold me until you died? ♪</font>

646
00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:57,006
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Till you died
But you're still alive ♪</font>

647
00:36:57,089 --> 00:36:58,174
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And I'm here ♪</font>

648
00:36:58,257 --> 00:37:00,426
<font size="41">{\an1}It was immediately our
number-one requested record</font>

649
00:37:00,509 --> 00:37:02,511
<font size="41">{\an1}for many weeks.</font>

650
00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:03,804
<font size="41">{\an1}HOWARD STERN: "You Oughta Know",</font>

651
00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:06,807
<font size="41">{\an1}this is the song
that really broke on KROQ radio.</font>

652
00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:09,894
<font size="41">{\an1}-And suddenly, overnight...
-ROBIN QUIVERS: Life changes.</font>

653
00:37:09,977 --> 00:37:11,938
<font size="41">{\an1}HOWARD: ...people are singing
this song with you,</font>

654
00:37:12,021 --> 00:37:14,982
<font size="41">{\an1}and your audiences are around
the block waiting for you.</font>

655
00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:19,153
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You, you, you oughta know ♪</font>

656
00:37:19,236 --> 00:37:20,488
<font size="41">{\an1}STEVE BALTIN: You're not
gonna write</font>

657
00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:23,074
<font size="41">{\an1}a better "fuck off" song
than "You Oughta Know".</font>

658
00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:24,325
<font size="41">{\an1}Who hasn't been dumped?</font>

659
00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:27,662
<font size="41">{\an1}Who hasn't wanted to tell
an ex-lover to fuck off?</font>

660
00:37:27,745 --> 00:37:30,539
<font size="41">{\an1}And who hasn't wanted to do it
in that way,</font>

661
00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:33,417
<font size="41">{\an1}so openly and so angrily?</font>

662
00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:35,378
<font size="41">{\an1}It's like when you dream
of walking up</font>

663
00:37:35,461 --> 00:37:37,296
<font size="41">{\an1}and throwing the drink
in someone's face,</font>

664
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,173
<font size="41">{\an1}or just smacking them, whatever.</font>

665
00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:40,424
<font size="41">{\an1}She did it in song.</font>

666
00:37:41,884 --> 00:37:44,804
<font size="41">{\an1}JOHANNA STEIN: We're all used
to the stereotype of the girl</font>

667
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,015
<font size="41">{\an1}who gets broken up with
and calls her friends crying.</font>

668
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:50,393
<font size="41">{\an1}And she sits on the couch,
and she eats ice cream.</font>

669
00:37:51,268 --> 00:37:52,603
<font size="41">{\an1}She wasn't that.</font>

670
00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:54,814
<font size="41">{\an1}KEVIN SMITH: Back in the '90s,</font>

671
00:37:54,897 --> 00:37:56,524
<font size="41">{\an1}I cannot tell you
how many people were like,</font>

672
00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,985
<font size="41">{\an1}"I identify with that song,
'You Oughta Know'."</font>

673
00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:01,445
<font size="41">{\an1}And I'm like, "Who did you
blow in a movie theater?"</font>

674
00:38:02,863 --> 00:38:05,866
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF ABDURRAQIB: When that song
came out, I was, like, 12 or 13.</font>

675
00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:08,369
<font size="41">{\an1}I... (CHUCKLES)</font>

676
00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:10,997
<font size="41">{\an1}I don't know what going down
on someone in a theater is,</font>

677
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,499
<font size="41">{\an1}you know? But I also knew
that it was something--</font>

678
00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:15,751
<font size="41">{\an1}Like, my not knowing
made me feel like,</font>

679
00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:17,336
<font size="41">{\an1}"Okay, this is dangerous
or different</font>

680
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,715
<font size="41">{\an1}or something far outside
my understanding."</font>

681
00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:23,426
<font size="41">{\an1}LORRAINE: Alanis comes along</font>

682
00:38:23,509 --> 00:38:26,846
<font size="41">{\an1}and sings about going down
on someone in a theater,</font>

683
00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:30,057
<font size="41">{\an1}and it's like,
"Oh, wow, that's crazy."</font>

684
00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:32,727
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, "This is really
sexually explicit."</font>

685
00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:35,688
<font size="41">{\an1}Really? 'Cause that's not
what I'm picking up from it.</font>

686
00:38:35,771 --> 00:38:37,982
<font size="41">{\an1}Yeah, that's in there,
but that's not...</font>

687
00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:39,859
<font size="41">{\an1}you know, what's speaking
to me about it.</font>

688
00:38:39,942 --> 00:38:41,402
<font size="41">{\an1}And how about the individual</font>

689
00:38:41,485 --> 00:38:42,862
<font size="41">{\an1}that "You Oughta Know"
is all about?</font>

690
00:38:42,945 --> 00:38:45,197
<font size="41">{\an1}Is there a feeling that
this is almost your revenge,</font>

691
00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:47,158
<font size="41">{\an1}-the success of your single?
-You know what?</font>

692
00:38:47,241 --> 00:38:48,951
<font size="41">{\an1}The ironic thing is
I don't even think</font>

693
00:38:49,035 --> 00:38:50,411
<font size="41">{\an1}he knows that the song
is about him.</font>

694
00:38:50,494 --> 00:38:52,496
<font size="41">{\an1}-Maybe it's better he doesn't.
-You know what? I think it is.</font>

695
00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:55,624
<font size="41">{\an1}'Cause the last thing I want
to do is to be that vindictive.</font>

696
00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,252
<font size="41">{\an1}I don't think that I will be
hurt in the way that I was hurt</font>

697
00:38:58,335 --> 00:39:00,588
<font size="41">{\an1}by the person that I wrote
"You Oughta Know" about</font>

698
00:39:00,671 --> 00:39:02,006
<font size="41">{\an1}ever again, no.</font>

699
00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:03,549
<font size="41">{\an1}This person,
I don't even really know</font>

700
00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:04,633
<font size="41">{\an1}whether he knows it's about him.</font>

701
00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:07,136
<font size="41">{\an1}And I didn't write it to get
back at him.</font>

702
00:39:07,219 --> 00:39:08,596
<font size="41">{\an1}If I had, I think that
I'd be plastering</font>

703
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,515
<font size="41">{\an1}his picture everywhere and
telling everyone his name.</font>

704
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,226
<font size="41">{\an1}But I just really wrote it
for the sake of my own release.</font>

705
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:17,438
<font size="41">{\an1}Well, clearly, somebody
upset this girl.</font>

706
00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:18,439
<font size="41">{\an1}Who is it?</font>

707
00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:21,400
<font size="41">{\an1}And, you know, for years,
no confirmation.</font>

708
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,652
<font size="41">{\an1}She's classy. She didn't
talk about it and shit.</font>

709
00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:25,071
<font size="41">{\an1}Everyone thinks it's...</font>

710
00:39:25,821 --> 00:39:27,656
<font size="41">{\an1}the guy from some TV show.</font>

711
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:29,408
<font size="41">{\an1}(CHUCKLES)</font>

712
00:39:29,492 --> 00:39:30,868
<font size="41">{\an1}It's funny, though,
because I was dating</font>

713
00:39:30,951 --> 00:39:32,912
<font size="41">{\an1}so many more people
than just him.</font>

714
00:39:32,995 --> 00:39:34,914
<font size="41">{\an1}But because of
"You Oughta Know",</font>

715
00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:36,791
<font size="41">{\an1}and people saying it was
about Dave Coulier,</font>

716
00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:39,877
<font size="41">{\an1}all this attention was like,
"She dated one person."</font>

717
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,797
<font size="41">{\an1}Who's the person?
Who gives a fuck?</font>

718
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,215
<font size="41">{\an1}It's the experience.</font>

719
00:39:44,298 --> 00:39:46,384
<font size="41">{\an1}All I know is I wouldn't want to
be him, you know what I mean?</font>

720
00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:49,178
<font size="41">{\an1}Like, (LAUGHS)
I don't care who he is.</font>

721
00:39:49,261 --> 00:39:51,430
<font size="41">{\an1}But I hope whoever he is,</font>

722
00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:53,390
<font size="41">{\an1}he went to therapy.</font>

723
00:39:53,474 --> 00:39:54,767
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: There's been about
eight people</font>

724
00:39:54,850 --> 00:39:56,435
<font size="41">{\an1}who've claimed the song has
been about them.</font>

725
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:58,479
<font size="41">{\an1}So I'm always just like,
"Who said?"</font>

726
00:39:58,562 --> 00:40:01,273
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, "Who said?"
(LAUGHS)</font>

727
00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:03,943
<font size="41">{\an1}Interesting that you think
that song is about you. Huh?</font>

728
00:40:04,026 --> 00:40:07,738
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Nails down someone else's back
I hope you feel it ♪</font>

729
00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:09,782
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Well, can you feel it? ♪</font>

730
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:11,700
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Well, I'm here... ♪</font>

731
00:40:11,784 --> 00:40:13,452
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY MANSON: She'd come in
at the right time</font>

732
00:40:13,536 --> 00:40:14,620
<font size="41">{\an1}with the right attitude.</font>

733
00:40:14,703 --> 00:40:17,373
<font size="41">{\an1}And it was very different
to what women were doing</font>

734
00:40:17,456 --> 00:40:19,875
<font size="41">{\an1}at that time.
She really stood out.</font>

735
00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:22,086
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's not fair... ♪</font>

736
00:40:22,169 --> 00:40:24,004
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY: It was one of those
kind of songs</font>

737
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:25,131
<font size="41">{\an1}where you just pull over the car</font>

738
00:40:25,214 --> 00:40:26,340
<font size="41">{\an1}and you remember, like,
"Wait, what is that?"</font>

739
00:40:26,423 --> 00:40:29,593
<font size="41">{\an1}It doesn't sound
like anything else out there.</font>

740
00:40:29,677 --> 00:40:32,471
<font size="41">{\an1}During that time,
it was regarded as a no-no</font>

741
00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:34,682
<font size="41">{\an1}to play female artists
back to back.</font>

742
00:40:34,765 --> 00:40:38,352
<font size="41">{\an1}I was not allowed to play
No Doubt into Alanis.</font>

743
00:40:38,435 --> 00:40:41,313
<font size="41">{\an1}It was just the way things were.</font>

744
00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:44,400
<font size="41">{\an1}STEVE: Was there room
for Alanis in rock? No.</font>

745
00:40:44,483 --> 00:40:47,111
<font size="41">{\an1}But it was simply, "You try
and ignore the song."</font>

746
00:40:47,194 --> 00:40:48,988
<font size="41">{\an1}"You see what's gonna happen."</font>

747
00:40:49,071 --> 00:40:52,575
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You, you, you oughta know ♪</font>

748
00:40:56,912 --> 00:40:58,497
<font size="41">{\an1}(INDISTINCT CHATTER)</font>

749
00:40:58,581 --> 00:41:00,291
<font size="41">{\an1}(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)</font>

750
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:05,504
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY: It happened very quickly.</font>

751
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:08,174
<font size="41">{\an1}As soon as that song
hit the radio,</font>

752
00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:10,009
<font size="41">{\an1}it just picked up.</font>

753
00:41:11,343 --> 00:41:12,887
<font size="41">{\an1}JOCELYN RHEAUME:
Who was this person?</font>

754
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:14,013
<font size="41">{\an1}And there was all the mystery,</font>

755
00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:16,140
<font size="41">{\an1}because her first video,
her hair was in her face</font>

756
00:41:16,223 --> 00:41:19,268
<font size="41">{\an1}and she was in the desert and
screaming, "You oughta know!"</font>

757
00:41:21,353 --> 00:41:24,481
<font size="41">{\an1}STEVE: I was sent an advance
of Jagged Little Pill.</font>

758
00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:25,900
<font size="41">{\an1}There were no photos
that came with it,</font>

759
00:41:25,983 --> 00:41:28,444
<font size="41">{\an1}or all the photos,
her hair was blurring her face.</font>

760
00:41:29,945 --> 00:41:32,072
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: My hair would cover me.</font>

761
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:34,408
<font size="41">{\an1}It's very convenient
having all that hair.</font>

762
00:41:35,576 --> 00:41:36,869
<font size="41">{\an1}MICHELE LAURITA:
In the beginning,</font>

763
00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:38,704
<font size="41">{\an1}there was definitely a style.</font>

764
00:41:38,787 --> 00:41:40,623
<font size="41">{\an1}She kind of showed up like,</font>

765
00:41:40,706 --> 00:41:42,791
<font size="41">{\an1}"This just came out
of my hamper."</font>

766
00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:45,628
<font size="41">{\an1}We did a full cover
of Rolling Stone photoshoot</font>

767
00:41:45,711 --> 00:41:47,963
<font size="41">{\an1}that had to be scrapped
because I couldn't speak up</font>

768
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:51,425
<font size="41">{\an1}about the fact that the clothes
that I was put in by the stylist</font>

769
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:53,719
<font size="41">{\an1}were not me! (LAUGHS)</font>

770
00:41:53,802 --> 00:41:55,721
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, and then we reshot
the whole thing</font>

771
00:41:55,804 --> 00:41:57,723
<font size="41">{\an1}with me wearing what I was
comfortable in,</font>

772
00:41:57,806 --> 00:41:58,933
<font size="41">{\an1}and then it was great.</font>

773
00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:02,186
<font size="41">{\an1}MICHELE: It definitely came up.</font>

774
00:42:02,269 --> 00:42:04,647
<font size="41">{\an1}"Do we want to make Alanis
more beautiful?"</font>

775
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:06,732
<font size="41">{\an1}"Do we want to make Alanis
more grungey?"</font>

776
00:42:06,815 --> 00:42:09,401
<font size="41">{\an1}"What's acceptable right now?"</font>

777
00:42:09,485 --> 00:42:11,779
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (ROCK MUSIC PLAYS) ♪</font>

778
00:42:13,572 --> 00:42:15,908
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: For the first time
in the history of music,</font>

779
00:42:15,991 --> 00:42:18,786
<font size="41">{\an1}there was a moment
where alternative artists</font>

780
00:42:18,869 --> 00:42:23,165
<font size="41">{\an1}ruled the airwaves, ruled media,
ruled TV.</font>

781
00:42:26,043 --> 00:42:29,296
<font size="41">{\an1}It was the thing that everybody
was buzzing on.</font>

782
00:42:30,714 --> 00:42:34,927
<font size="41">{\an1}Alt music was your ticket
to the fair.</font>

783
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:38,180
<font size="41">{\an1}SCOTT WELCH: Whoa, one moment.</font>

784
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:41,642
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: Scott Welch, the manager,</font>

785
00:42:41,725 --> 00:42:45,688
<font size="41">{\an1}was really intent on it being
a rock band.</font>

786
00:42:45,771 --> 00:42:48,941
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: When it came time
to go on tour, we auditioned.</font>

787
00:42:49,024 --> 00:42:51,777
<font size="41">{\an1}We auditioned tons of people.</font>

788
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:54,780
<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis put the band together
from tryouts.</font>

789
00:42:54,863 --> 00:42:57,116
<font size="41">{\an1}And we'd play.
And I could play really loud,</font>

790
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:58,576
<font size="41">{\an1}and she didn't give a shit,
so...</font>

791
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:01,870
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR HAWKINS: I couldn't
remember her fucking name.</font>

792
00:43:01,954 --> 00:43:03,706
<font size="41">{\an1}"Atlantis." I just--</font>

793
00:43:03,789 --> 00:43:06,500
<font size="41">{\an1}"Alanis. I've never even heard
that word. That's not--"</font>

794
00:43:06,583 --> 00:43:08,669
<font size="41">{\an1}"I don't know anyone else
named Alanis,"</font>

795
00:43:08,752 --> 00:43:11,005
<font size="41">{\an1}so I couldn't remember the name.</font>

796
00:43:11,088 --> 00:43:13,590
<font size="41">{\an1}In the mail, I get a cassette
of the three songs</font>

797
00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:14,925
<font size="41">{\an1}you need to know.</font>

798
00:43:15,009 --> 00:43:17,094
<font size="41">{\an1}The first song is
"You Oughta Know".</font>

799
00:43:17,177 --> 00:43:18,679
<font size="41">{\an1}And that's all you
needed to hear.</font>

800
00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:20,180
<font size="41">{\an1}That's gonna be fucking huge.</font>

801
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:23,058
<font size="41">{\an1}-So, Nick, where are you from?
-I'm very English.</font>

802
00:43:23,142 --> 00:43:24,268
<font size="41">{\an1}(LAUGHS)</font>

803
00:43:24,351 --> 00:43:26,312
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: Nick Lashley
was the guitar player,</font>

804
00:43:26,395 --> 00:43:27,563
<font size="41">{\an1}an English cat.</font>

805
00:43:29,898 --> 00:43:32,735
<font size="41">{\an1}And he can do
all the cool noise effects,</font>

806
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:36,405
<font size="41">{\an1}and he's really
a great lead guitar player.</font>

807
00:43:36,488 --> 00:43:39,325
<font size="41">{\an1}So, Jesse, where are you from,
dude? (LAUGHS)</font>

808
00:43:39,408 --> 00:43:41,535
<font size="41">{\an1}-From Austin, Texas.
-Yeah?</font>

809
00:43:41,618 --> 00:43:43,329
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: The guitar player,
Jesse,</font>

810
00:43:43,412 --> 00:43:46,248
<font size="41">{\an1}played with the Chili Peppers
very briefly.</font>

811
00:43:46,332 --> 00:43:48,792
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: Jesse Tobias
and Nick Lashley</font>

812
00:43:48,876 --> 00:43:50,169
<font size="41">{\an1}had a wonderful kind
of interplay</font>

813
00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:51,962
<font size="41">{\an1}where they were able
to cover all the parts</font>

814
00:43:52,046 --> 00:43:53,172
<font size="41">{\an1}that we had on the record</font>

815
00:43:53,255 --> 00:43:56,050
<font size="41">{\an1}and add a huge amount
of power to it.</font>

816
00:43:56,133 --> 00:43:58,135
<font size="41">{\an1}Chris, do you like to practice?</font>

817
00:43:58,218 --> 00:43:59,845
<font size="41">{\an1}-Ah!
-(LAUGHTER)</font>

818
00:43:59,928 --> 00:44:02,014
<font size="41">{\an1}I hate practicing.</font>

819
00:44:02,097 --> 00:44:05,100
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: The bass player,
Chris Chaney, was an accident.</font>

820
00:44:05,184 --> 00:44:07,227
<font size="41">{\an1}She called the wrong
person back.</font>

821
00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:08,854
<font size="41">{\an1}And we tried him out,
and she's like...</font>

822
00:44:08,937 --> 00:44:10,814
<font size="41">{\an1}"I didn't mean to call
this guy."</font>

823
00:44:10,898 --> 00:44:12,775
<font size="41">{\an1}"I didn't mean to call
this guy."</font>

824
00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:14,818
<font size="41">{\an1}I swear.</font>

825
00:44:14,902 --> 00:44:16,445
<font size="41">{\an1}-You ready?
-CHRIS CHANEY: I just was me.</font>

826
00:44:16,528 --> 00:44:18,614
<font size="41">{\an1}I just showed up
in what I was wearing.</font>

827
00:44:18,697 --> 00:44:21,575
<font size="41">{\an1}No fashion sense.
No true "style," right?</font>

828
00:44:22,618 --> 00:44:24,661
<font size="41">{\an1}I felt a little intimidated.</font>

829
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:26,872
<font size="41">{\an1}'Cause he was a jazz guy,
so he's like,</font>

830
00:44:26,955 --> 00:44:28,165
<font size="41">{\an1}"I don't know."</font>

831
00:44:28,248 --> 00:44:31,043
<font size="41">{\an1}He didn't even understand
if it was good music, really.</font>

832
00:44:31,126 --> 00:44:32,294
<font size="41">{\an1}And I was like, "Well, you know,</font>

833
00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:33,754
<font size="41">{\an1}you've missed
the last five years,</font>

834
00:44:33,837 --> 00:44:37,257
<font size="41">{\an1}so here's fucking Soundgarden,
and here's Jane's Addiction."</font>

835
00:44:37,341 --> 00:44:40,344
<font size="41">{\an1}Learn it, live it, love it.</font>

836
00:44:40,427 --> 00:44:41,470
<font size="41">{\an1}And he gets it now.</font>

837
00:44:41,553 --> 00:44:43,347
<font size="41">{\an1}He's in Jane's Addiction now,
which is...</font>

838
00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:46,058
<font size="41">{\an1}"ironic." (CHUCKLES)</font>

839
00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:49,937
<font size="41">{\an1}ALISON:</font>

840
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:55,526
<font size="41">{\an1}In the '90s? I mean, yes.</font>

841
00:44:56,402 --> 00:44:58,237
<font size="41">{\an1}But, no.</font>

842
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,740
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, I'd had my challenges
with women...</font>

843
00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:05,744
<font size="41">{\an1}you know, women who wanted
to be in my seat or...</font>

844
00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:07,996
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, there was always
such a scarcity mindset,</font>

845
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,665
<font size="41">{\an1}like there was only
room for one.</font>

846
00:45:09,748 --> 00:45:13,877
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, for me, hanging out
with the guys was just easier.</font>

847
00:45:13,961 --> 00:45:17,089
<font size="41">{\an1}Once we all knew none of us
were gonna be romantic,</font>

848
00:45:17,172 --> 00:45:19,466
<font size="41">{\an1}it was like, "Oh, cool, let's
just make some shows."</font>

849
00:45:24,638 --> 00:45:26,640
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: And the first show
that we did,</font>

850
00:45:26,723 --> 00:45:30,102
<font size="41">{\an1}we did a showcase
for sort of friends and family.</font>

851
00:45:30,185 --> 00:45:32,104
<font size="41">{\an1}Literally,
it was our girlfriends</font>

852
00:45:32,187 --> 00:45:34,106
<font size="41">{\an1}and people from
the record company...</font>

853
00:45:34,731 --> 00:45:35,941
<font size="41">{\an1}Madonna's over there.</font>

854
00:45:36,024 --> 00:45:37,401
<font size="41">{\an1}-Where?
-Right there.</font>

855
00:45:39,194 --> 00:45:40,821
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: ...and Madonna.</font>

856
00:45:40,904 --> 00:45:42,865
<font size="41">{\an1}It was like, "Fuck,
Madonna's right there."</font>

857
00:45:42,948 --> 00:45:44,491
<font size="41">{\an1}EXECUTIVE: For the last
few months,</font>

858
00:45:44,575 --> 00:45:46,034
<font size="41">{\an1}since we signed Alanis,</font>

859
00:45:46,118 --> 00:45:48,912
<font size="41">{\an1}everybody's been saying to me,
"What's she look like?"</font>

860
00:45:48,996 --> 00:45:50,289
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, "What does she do?"</font>

861
00:45:50,372 --> 00:45:52,124
<font size="41">{\an1}Anyway, I just want
to introduce someone</font>

862
00:45:52,207 --> 00:45:54,501
<font size="41">{\an1}who we're real crazy about,
Alanis Morissette.</font>

863
00:45:55,752 --> 00:45:58,964
<font size="41">{\an1}(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)</font>

864
00:45:59,047 --> 00:46:02,134
<font size="41">{\an1}LISA: Maverick did a showcase
with her.</font>

865
00:46:02,217 --> 00:46:04,928
<font size="41">{\an1}It was the first time
we saw her live.</font>

866
00:46:05,012 --> 00:46:07,306
<font size="41">{\an1}She was amazing.
She was absolutely amazing.</font>

867
00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:11,685
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And I'm here to remind you ♪</font>

868
00:46:11,768 --> 00:46:16,148
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Of the mess you left
when you went away ♪</font>

869
00:46:16,231 --> 00:46:18,233
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's not fair ♪</font>

870
00:46:18,317 --> 00:46:20,611
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To deny me ♪</font>

871
00:46:20,694 --> 00:46:24,364
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Of the cross I bear
that you gave to me ♪</font>

872
00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:27,826
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You, you, you oughta know ♪</font>

873
00:46:28,577 --> 00:46:33,582
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

874
00:46:38,295 --> 00:46:41,465
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

875
00:46:41,548 --> 00:46:44,218
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("WAKE UP"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

876
00:46:53,227 --> 00:46:55,062
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You like snow ♪</font>

877
00:46:55,145 --> 00:46:58,148
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ But only if it's warm ♪</font>

878
00:46:58,232 --> 00:47:00,943
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: The next night, she played
at a place called Dragonfly.</font>

879
00:47:03,946 --> 00:47:05,280
<font size="41">{\an1}We got to this little club,</font>

880
00:47:05,364 --> 00:47:08,200
<font size="41">{\an1}and there were people lined up
around the block.</font>

881
00:47:09,701 --> 00:47:13,372
<font size="41">{\an1}It was like in one day,
you couldn't get in the room.</font>

882
00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:16,959
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ There's no sentimental value
to the rose ♪</font>

883
00:47:17,042 --> 00:47:19,169
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: The single had been out
for a week by then,</font>

884
00:47:19,253 --> 00:47:22,089
<font size="41">{\an1}and there was literally 5,000
people trying to get in.</font>

885
00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:26,635
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause it's easy not to ♪</font>

886
00:47:26,718 --> 00:47:29,179
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ So much easier ♪</font>

887
00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:32,182
<font size="41">{\an1}STEVE: This was the show
that everyone had to be at.</font>

888
00:47:33,308 --> 00:47:35,602
<font size="41">{\an1}This was before she was massive,</font>

889
00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:37,771
<font size="41">{\an1}but everyone knew
she was gonna be massive.</font>

890
00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:43,569
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

891
00:47:58,667 --> 00:48:00,460
<font size="41">{\an1}So, yeah, I was just 21.</font>

892
00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:02,170
<font size="41">{\an1}-Yeah.
-ALANIS: Cheers, Glen.</font>

893
00:48:02,254 --> 00:48:04,131
<font size="41">{\an1}-Cheers, queers, stairs, and--
-ALANIS: Cheers, queers.</font>

894
00:48:04,214 --> 00:48:05,465
<font size="41">{\an1}-Cheers, Nicky.
-NICKY: Cheers.</font>

895
00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:07,634
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
Whoo-hoo! Party on, Garth.</font>

896
00:48:07,718 --> 00:48:08,802
<font size="41">{\an1}(LAUGHTER)</font>

897
00:48:08,885 --> 00:48:10,637
<font size="41">{\an1}He went like this...</font>

898
00:48:10,721 --> 00:48:13,640
<font size="41">{\an1}That's a big dick. This guy's
got the fuckin' rock...</font>

899
00:48:13,724 --> 00:48:16,059
<font size="41">{\an1}(INDISTINCT CHATTER
AND LAUGHTER)</font>

900
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:19,688
<font size="41">{\an1}It's me.</font>

901
00:48:19,771 --> 00:48:22,107
<font size="41">{\an1}-Say hello.
-Hello.</font>

902
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:24,067
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: I remember Scott Welch
pulled me aside</font>

903
00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:27,738
<font size="41">{\an1}just after the auditions when
we hired our bandmates.</font>

904
00:48:29,156 --> 00:48:31,658
<font size="41">{\an1}He just kind of yanked me in,
and he goes,</font>

905
00:48:31,742 --> 00:48:34,161
<font size="41">{\an1}"You got to start being
a boss, Alanis."</font>

906
00:48:34,244 --> 00:48:37,497
<font size="41">{\an1}And I said, "I'm 20.
I don't know how to be a boss."</font>

907
00:48:37,581 --> 00:48:40,292
<font size="41">{\an1}He's like, "Well, you better
figure it out fast."</font>

908
00:48:42,461 --> 00:48:44,171
<font size="41">{\an1}This is Alanis' room.</font>

909
00:48:45,172 --> 00:48:46,965
<font size="41">{\an1}And it's a fucking mess.</font>

910
00:48:48,258 --> 00:48:50,302
<font size="41">{\an1}She's got no clue.
Where are we going tomorrow?</font>

911
00:48:50,385 --> 00:48:52,095
<font size="41">{\an1}-Where are we going tomorrow?
-We're here tomorrow.</font>

912
00:48:52,179 --> 00:48:53,305
<font size="41">{\an1}-We're staying here tomorrow.
-Yes.</font>

913
00:48:53,388 --> 00:48:55,432
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay, but we have no clue
where we're going.</font>

914
00:48:55,515 --> 00:48:56,850
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: We did a van tour.</font>

915
00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:59,686
<font size="41">{\an1}The first two to three months
was in a van.</font>

916
00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:02,022
<font size="41">{\an1}No messing around for John John.</font>

917
00:49:02,105 --> 00:49:03,315
<font size="41">{\an1}This is a private moment.</font>

918
00:49:04,274 --> 00:49:07,486
<font size="41">{\an1}White tablecloths
and silver linens,</font>

919
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:08,779
<font size="41">{\an1}that's all he uses.</font>

920
00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:16,995
<font size="41">{\an1}What the hell is going on here?</font>

921
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,331
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: And we fucking literally
went from the West Coast</font>

922
00:49:19,414 --> 00:49:20,457
<font size="41">{\an1}all the way to New York.</font>

923
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:22,292
<font size="41">{\an1}At least get monitors together
to start with.</font>

924
00:49:22,376 --> 00:49:23,752
<font size="41">{\an1}-You want me up?
-Yeah.</font>

925
00:49:23,835 --> 00:49:24,878
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay.</font>

926
00:49:25,837 --> 00:49:28,465
<font size="41">{\an1}At least get some
stage line together</font>

927
00:49:28,548 --> 00:49:30,759
<font size="41">{\an1}-and monitor level together.
-Okay.</font>

928
00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:33,053
<font size="41">{\an1}It's my perspective.</font>

929
00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:36,515
<font size="41">{\an1}And it just fucking
went nuclear, man.</font>

930
00:49:36,598 --> 00:49:39,059
<font size="41">{\an1}It was, like, it went
fucking nuclear.</font>

931
00:49:39,142 --> 00:49:42,229
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

932
00:49:42,312 --> 00:49:43,480
<font size="41">{\an1}Thank you.</font>

933
00:49:43,563 --> 00:49:47,526
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("HAND IN MY POCKET"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

934
00:49:47,609 --> 00:49:50,445
<font size="41">{\an1}This song's called
"Hand in My Pocket".</font>

935
00:50:16,179 --> 00:50:18,598
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm broke but I'm happy ♪</font>

936
00:50:18,682 --> 00:50:21,268
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm poor but I'm kind ♪</font>

937
00:50:21,351 --> 00:50:24,563
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm short but I'm healthy ♪</font>

938
00:50:24,646 --> 00:50:26,231
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Yeah ♪</font>

939
00:50:27,357 --> 00:50:30,235
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm high but I'm grounded ♪</font>

940
00:50:30,318 --> 00:50:32,988
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm sane but I'm overwhelmed ♪</font>

941
00:50:33,071 --> 00:50:37,617
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm lost but I'm hopeful,
baby ♪</font>

942
00:50:37,701 --> 00:50:40,912
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And what it all
comes down to ♪</font>

943
00:50:43,123 --> 00:50:47,711
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is that everything's gonna be
fine, fine, fine ♪</font>

944
00:50:50,005 --> 00:50:53,300
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause I've got one hand
in my pocket ♪</font>

945
00:50:53,383 --> 00:50:57,596
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And the other one is giving
a high-five ♪</font>

946
00:51:00,557 --> 00:51:04,603
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Well, I feel drunk
but I'm sober ♪</font>

947
00:51:04,686 --> 00:51:06,104
<font size="41">{\an1}I have the towel.</font>

948
00:51:06,188 --> 00:51:08,315
<font size="41">{\an1}I have the towel she sweated on!</font>

949
00:51:08,398 --> 00:51:09,941
<font size="41">{\an1}REPORTER: What did you think
of Alanis' show?</font>

950
00:51:10,025 --> 00:51:12,944
<font size="41">{\an1}-I thought it was pretty wicked,
-She's the best.</font>

951
00:51:13,028 --> 00:51:14,821
<font size="41">{\an1}I thought it was great.
I thought Alanis was great.</font>

952
00:51:14,905 --> 00:51:15,947
<font size="41">{\an1}It was awesome.</font>

953
00:51:16,031 --> 00:51:18,158
<font size="41">{\an1}Her show was, like, wicked.
It was really good.</font>

954
00:51:19,618 --> 00:51:25,081
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm wrong, and I'm sorry,
baby ♪</font>

955
00:51:25,165 --> 00:51:27,292
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF: "Hand in My Pocket"
was the jam.</font>

956
00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:29,628
<font size="41">{\an1}It's mulling over
all these contradictions,</font>

957
00:51:29,711 --> 00:51:32,005
<font size="41">{\an1}and it's not exactly seeking
an answer,</font>

958
00:51:32,088 --> 00:51:34,758
<font size="41">{\an1}as much it is seeking
an affirmation</font>

959
00:51:34,841 --> 00:51:36,510
<font size="41">{\an1}that the contradictions
are okay to live with.</font>

960
00:51:36,593 --> 00:51:40,013
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause I've got one hand
in my pocket ♪</font>

961
00:51:40,096 --> 00:51:43,475
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And the other one is flicking
a cigarette ♪</font>

962
00:51:46,353 --> 00:51:48,855
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: Women historically
have always just been allowed</font>

963
00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:53,568
<font size="41">{\an1}to have one approach,
one face, one message.</font>

964
00:51:54,861 --> 00:51:57,239
<font size="41">{\an1}And here was this artist saying,</font>

965
00:51:57,322 --> 00:51:59,241
<font size="41">{\an1}"Well, I'm this, but I'm
also that."</font>

966
00:51:59,324 --> 00:52:02,994
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause I've got one hand
in my pocket ♪</font>

967
00:52:03,078 --> 00:52:06,414
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And the other one is giving
a peace sign ♪</font>

968
00:52:12,128 --> 00:52:13,755
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm free, but I'm focused... ♪</font>

969
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:16,258
<font size="41">{\an1}STEVE MARGO: Alanis Morissette
was one of those people</font>

970
00:52:16,341 --> 00:52:19,094
<font size="41">{\an1}that came along
that I thought, "This girl</font>

971
00:52:19,177 --> 00:52:20,971
<font size="41">{\an1}could do incredibly
well internationally."</font>

972
00:52:23,181 --> 00:52:24,850
<font size="41">{\an1}They did launch her, obviously,
in America</font>

973
00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:28,395
<font size="41">{\an1}with "You Oughta Know".
But the real hit,</font>

974
00:52:28,478 --> 00:52:30,730
<font size="41">{\an1}the record that kind of
blew it all up,</font>

975
00:52:30,814 --> 00:52:32,232
<font size="41">{\an1}was "Hand in My Pocket".</font>

976
00:52:32,315 --> 00:52:33,900
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Baby ♪</font>

977
00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:37,195
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And what it all
comes down to ♪</font>

978
00:52:39,406 --> 00:52:43,451
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is that everything's gonna be
fine, fine, fine ♪</font>

979
00:52:46,037 --> 00:52:49,040
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause I've got one hand
in my pocket ♪</font>

980
00:52:49,124 --> 00:52:56,423
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And the other one is
playing the piano ♪</font>

981
00:52:56,506 --> 00:53:00,427
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And what it all comes down to
my dear friend ♪</font>

982
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:01,595
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Yeah, yeah ♪</font>

983
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:03,555
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is that everything is just ♪</font>

984
00:53:03,638 --> 00:53:07,726
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Fine, fine, fine ♪</font>

985
00:53:07,809 --> 00:53:10,937
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause I've got one hand
in my pocket ♪</font>

986
00:53:11,021 --> 00:53:15,108
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And the other one
is hailing a taxi cab ♪</font>

987
00:53:15,191 --> 00:53:17,360
<font size="41">{\an1}CHRIS: We played
The Prince's Trust.</font>

988
00:53:17,444 --> 00:53:20,488
<font size="41">{\an1}That show was the biggest show
we did on the entire tour.</font>

989
00:53:21,823 --> 00:53:24,576
<font size="41">{\an1}Bob Dylan was on that,
Eric Clapton.</font>

990
00:53:24,659 --> 00:53:26,119
<font size="41">{\an1}And then Alanis Morissette.</font>

991
00:53:27,662 --> 00:53:30,123
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: All I know is I couldn't
hear anything.</font>

992
00:53:30,206 --> 00:53:32,417
<font size="41">{\an1}I literally could not
hear me sing</font>

993
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:34,878
<font size="41">{\an1}because everyone was
singing so loudly.</font>

994
00:53:42,802 --> 00:53:47,849
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

995
00:53:50,143 --> 00:53:52,395
<font size="41">{\an1}Thank you very much.</font>

996
00:53:52,479 --> 00:53:56,900
<font size="41">{\an1}LISA: You can go from being
unknown to known by everybody.</font>

997
00:53:56,983 --> 00:53:58,902
<font size="41">{\an1}It was that one word.
It was "Alanis".</font>

998
00:53:58,985 --> 00:54:01,947
<font size="41">{\an1}And you knew exactly
who you're talking about.</font>

999
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:04,532
<font size="41">{\an1}Radio made superstars back then.</font>

1000
00:54:04,616 --> 00:54:06,952
<font size="41">{\an1}And then you got the MTV
component</font>

1001
00:54:07,035 --> 00:54:08,912
<font size="41">{\an1}and it's mega-stardom.</font>

1002
00:54:08,995 --> 00:54:10,413
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: When "You Oughta Know"
came out,</font>

1003
00:54:10,497 --> 00:54:12,958
<font size="41">{\an1}because it was blurry, I wasn't
being recognized on the street.</font>

1004
00:54:13,041 --> 00:54:14,751
<font size="41">{\an1}So I could still
walk everywhere.</font>

1005
00:54:14,834 --> 00:54:18,046
<font size="41">{\an1}Once "Hand in My Pocket" came
out, that was super clear.</font>

1006
00:54:18,129 --> 00:54:20,340
<font size="41">{\an1}And I remember walking
down a street in New York,</font>

1007
00:54:20,423 --> 00:54:22,425
<font size="41">{\an1}and all of a sudden,
people were...</font>

1008
00:54:23,051 --> 00:54:24,219
<font size="41">{\an1}running up to me.</font>

1009
00:54:26,763 --> 00:54:31,851
<font size="41">{\an1}KEVIN: Music videos in the '90s
were at their absolute apex.</font>

1010
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:33,353
<font size="41">{\an1}ANNOUNCER: MTV.</font>

1011
00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:36,815
<font size="41">{\an1}KEVIN: MTV was the path by which</font>

1012
00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:39,651
<font size="41">{\an1}any mainstream artist
had to travel.</font>

1013
00:54:39,734 --> 00:54:41,987
<font size="41">{\an1}LORRAINE: There was so much
happening.</font>

1014
00:54:42,070 --> 00:54:44,489
<font size="41">{\an1}It was really an exciting
time in music.</font>

1015
00:54:44,572 --> 00:54:49,160
<font size="41">{\an1}That just speaks to how much
Alanis was up against</font>

1016
00:54:49,244 --> 00:54:51,162
<font size="41">{\an1}when Jagged Little Pill
dropped.</font>

1017
00:54:51,246 --> 00:54:53,915
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, for it to dominate
the way it did,</font>

1018
00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:57,210
<font size="41">{\an1}when you look at what else was
out there, that is really...</font>

1019
00:54:58,253 --> 00:54:59,212
<font size="41">{\an1}phenomenal.</font>

1020
00:54:59,295 --> 00:55:00,588
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("YOU LEARN"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

1021
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:04,134
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I recommend getting your
heart trampled on ♪</font>

1022
00:55:04,217 --> 00:55:05,677
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To anyone ♪</font>

1023
00:55:06,803 --> 00:55:08,138
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Yeah ♪</font>

1024
00:55:08,221 --> 00:55:10,557
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Oh, yeah ♪</font>

1025
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,394
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I recommend walking around ♪</font>

1026
00:55:14,477 --> 00:55:18,606
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Naked in your living room ♪</font>

1027
00:55:19,482 --> 00:55:21,943
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Yeah ♪</font>

1028
00:55:22,027 --> 00:55:25,363
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Swallow it down ♪</font>

1029
00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:26,698
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ What a jagged little pill... ♪</font>

1030
00:55:26,781 --> 00:55:29,075
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: We've been to many
different countries.</font>

1031
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:31,244
<font size="41">{\an1}-Where are we?
-Sydney, Australia.</font>

1032
00:55:31,327 --> 00:55:33,538
<font size="41">{\an1}We've been to Australia,
all over North America,</font>

1033
00:55:33,621 --> 00:55:37,375
<font size="41">{\an1}all over Europe,
Southeast Asia, Japan...</font>

1034
00:55:37,459 --> 00:55:39,419
<font size="41">{\an1}Mount Fuji.</font>

1035
00:55:39,502 --> 00:55:42,213
<font size="41">{\an1}I love being on a tour bus
at 3:00 in the morning,</font>

1036
00:55:42,297 --> 00:55:44,299
<font size="41">{\an1}going through the mountains
in Europe.</font>

1037
00:55:45,383 --> 00:55:46,926
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, there's so
many moments</font>

1038
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:50,138
<font size="41">{\an1}where we'd look at each other,
bandmates, and just be like...</font>

1039
00:55:50,221 --> 00:55:52,140
<font size="41">{\an1}"Oh, my God!"</font>

1040
00:55:52,974 --> 00:55:54,350
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You scream ♪</font>

1041
00:55:54,434 --> 00:56:00,065
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You learn ♪</font>

1042
00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:04,402
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I recommend biting off
more than you can chew ♪</font>

1043
00:56:04,486 --> 00:56:05,737
<font size="41">{\an1}Stop it, man.</font>

1044
00:56:10,366 --> 00:56:12,077
<font size="41">{\an1}DAVID LETTERMAN: Our next guest
is one of the year's</font>

1045
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,079
<font size="41">{\an1}most provocative
and talked-about singers.</font>

1046
00:56:14,162 --> 00:56:16,498
<font size="41">{\an1}Her CD is called
Jagged Little Pill.</font>

1047
00:56:16,581 --> 00:56:18,416
<font size="41">{\an1}Please welcome
Alanis Morissette.</font>

1048
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:20,085
<font size="41">{\an1}The best new artist,
Alanis Morissette.</font>

1049
00:56:20,168 --> 00:56:22,587
<font size="41">{\an1}-Alanis Morissette.
-Alanis Morissette.</font>

1050
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:23,880
<font size="41">{\an1}(SPEAKING JAPANESE)</font>

1051
00:56:23,963 --> 00:56:30,720
<font size="41">{\an1}-(SPEAKING FRENCH)
-(SPEAKING FRENCH)</font>

1052
00:56:30,804 --> 00:56:34,140
<font size="41">{\an1}Hi, I'm David Bowie,
but this is Alanis Morissette.</font>

1053
00:56:34,224 --> 00:56:37,060
<font size="41">{\an1}And the album of the year
is Jagged Little Pill.</font>

1054
00:56:37,143 --> 00:56:40,355
<font size="41">{\an1}And the winner is Jagged
Little Pill, Alanis Morissette.</font>

1055
00:56:40,438 --> 00:56:41,314
<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis Morissette.</font>

1056
00:56:41,397 --> 00:56:43,566
<font size="41">{\an1}-Alanis Morissette.
-Thank you.</font>

1057
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:44,818
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: It was so huge.</font>

1058
00:56:44,901 --> 00:56:48,321
<font size="41">{\an1}The biggest debut album
of any female artist ever.</font>

1059
00:56:48,404 --> 00:56:51,324
<font size="41">{\an1}LORRAINE: Jagged Little Pill was
the second-best selling album</font>

1060
00:56:51,407 --> 00:56:53,618
<font size="41">{\an1}in the '90s and sold</font>

1061
00:56:53,701 --> 00:56:56,788
<font size="41">{\an1}33 million worldwide
up until now.</font>

1062
00:56:56,871 --> 00:57:00,083
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You learn ♪</font>

1063
00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:10,343
<font size="41">{\an1}LORRAINE: The industry
discovers, "Wait a minute."</font>

1064
00:57:10,426 --> 00:57:11,970
<font size="41">{\an1}"This is actually lucrative."</font>

1065
00:57:13,221 --> 00:57:14,764
<font size="41">{\an1}"Look, there's
a whole demographic</font>

1066
00:57:14,848 --> 00:57:16,391
<font size="41">{\an1}that we haven't tapped."</font>

1067
00:57:16,474 --> 00:57:18,810
<font size="41">{\an1}"You know, women who
actually, like,</font>

1068
00:57:18,893 --> 00:57:21,980
<font size="41">{\an1}want to hear from themselves."
(CHUCKLES)</font>

1069
00:57:22,939 --> 00:57:25,066
<font size="41">{\an1}"So let's do that.
Let's push that."</font>

1070
00:57:26,359 --> 00:57:29,028
<font size="41">{\an1}LISA: Lilith Fair became
a thing,</font>

1071
00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:34,284
<font size="41">{\an1}and I think Alanis played a huge
part in opening that door.</font>

1072
00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:37,537
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: There was a lot
of women at that time,</font>

1073
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:39,831
<font size="41">{\an1}whether it was Fiona Apple,
whether it was Missy Elliot,</font>

1074
00:57:39,914 --> 00:57:41,457
<font size="41">{\an1}whether it was Courtney Love.</font>

1075
00:57:41,541 --> 00:57:43,459
<font size="41">{\an1}There were so many of us,</font>

1076
00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:46,880
<font size="41">{\an1}but Alanis proved to the world</font>

1077
00:57:46,963 --> 00:57:50,884
<font size="41">{\an1}and to the music business
that all of us were viable.</font>

1078
00:57:50,967 --> 00:57:56,014
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1079
00:58:04,063 --> 00:58:05,607
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: So much energy.</font>

1080
00:58:07,317 --> 00:58:09,777
<font size="41">{\an1}It's like, the whole room is
like... (IMITATES CROWD ROAR)</font>

1081
00:58:09,861 --> 00:58:11,905
<font size="41">{\an1}And I'm like...
(IMITATES CROWD ROAR)</font>

1082
00:58:15,783 --> 00:58:20,246
<font size="41">{\an1}It's like the perfect, perfect
poetic tantrum.</font>

1083
00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:33,593
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: We would do
all the songs</font>

1084
00:58:33,676 --> 00:58:35,094
<font size="41">{\an1}from the record, no question.</font>

1085
00:58:36,554 --> 00:58:39,766
<font size="41">{\an1}We had all these segues
to just fill space.</font>

1086
00:58:42,101 --> 00:58:45,188
<font size="41">{\an1}We would do "We Will Rock You"
by Queen.</font>

1087
00:58:45,271 --> 00:58:47,649
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Buddy, you're a boy
Make a big noise ♪</font>

1088
00:58:47,732 --> 00:58:51,277
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Playing in the street
Gonna be a big man someday ♪</font>

1089
00:58:51,361 --> 00:58:55,240
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You got mud on your face
You big disgrace ♪</font>

1090
00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:58,493
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Kicking your can
All over the place ♪</font>

1091
00:58:58,576 --> 00:58:59,494
<font size="41">{\an1}Sing it!</font>

1092
00:58:59,577 --> 00:59:03,373
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ We will, we will
rock you ♪</font>

1093
00:59:03,456 --> 00:59:05,667
<font size="41">{\an1}One more time!
Come on, sing it!</font>

1094
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:10,046
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ We will, we will
rock you ♪</font>

1095
00:59:10,129 --> 00:59:11,798
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: We would do
an ABBA song.</font>

1096
00:59:11,881 --> 00:59:13,967
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ If you change your mind ♪</font>

1097
00:59:14,050 --> 00:59:16,469
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm the first in line ♪</font>

1098
00:59:16,552 --> 00:59:18,805
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Honey, I'm still free ♪</font>

1099
00:59:18,888 --> 00:59:21,808
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Take a chance on me ♪</font>

1100
00:59:21,891 --> 00:59:23,643
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: Or a Radiohead song.</font>

1101
00:59:23,726 --> 00:59:25,937
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ In the fake plastic earth ♪</font>

1102
00:59:26,020 --> 00:59:28,731
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That she bought from
a rubber man ♪</font>

1103
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:31,359
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To get rid of itself ♪</font>

1104
00:59:32,318 --> 00:59:34,070
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It wears her out ♪</font>

1105
00:59:34,779 --> 00:59:39,826
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It wears her out ♪</font>

1106
00:59:46,416 --> 00:59:50,044
<font size="41">{\an1}GUY: She was in a position now
where it's like,</font>

1107
00:59:50,128 --> 00:59:52,380
<font size="41">{\an1}"Who do you want to open
for you?"</font>

1108
00:59:52,463 --> 00:59:54,924
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: Radiohead opened up
for us on tour.</font>

1109
00:59:55,008 --> 00:59:56,801
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ But I'm a creep ♪</font>

1110
00:59:58,136 --> 01:00:00,179
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: I like to think
and tell myself</font>

1111
01:00:00,263 --> 01:00:04,142
<font size="41">{\an1}that I basically influenced
them heavily.</font>

1112
01:00:05,977 --> 01:00:08,688
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: We would do our
sound check and then watch them.</font>

1113
01:00:08,771 --> 01:00:11,482
<font size="41">{\an1}Radiohead would take two hours
to sound check.</font>

1114
01:00:11,566 --> 01:00:13,985
<font size="41">{\an1}They were writing OK Computer.</font>

1115
01:00:16,195 --> 01:00:17,488
<font size="41">{\an1}I got along with the band
really good.</font>

1116
01:00:17,572 --> 01:00:20,992
<font size="41">{\an1}I got along with Thom good too.
"Thom." I call him "Thom."</font>

1117
01:00:21,075 --> 01:00:23,202
<font size="41">{\an1}Taylor was more hanging out
with them.</font>

1118
01:00:23,286 --> 01:00:24,704
<font size="41">{\an1}I tried at first.</font>

1119
01:00:24,787 --> 01:00:26,831
<font size="41">{\an1}Like, "I could be your friend,
and I'll come to your--"</font>

1120
01:00:26,914 --> 01:00:28,458
<font size="41">{\an1}"No, okay, bye."</font>

1121
01:00:28,541 --> 01:00:32,545
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, the fucking aloofness
killed me dead.</font>

1122
01:00:32,628 --> 01:00:34,630
<font size="41">{\an1}Fuck, Hollywood is ennui.</font>

1123
01:00:35,465 --> 01:00:37,884
<font size="41">{\an1}I was dying from the aloofness.</font>

1124
01:00:37,967 --> 01:00:39,385
<font size="41">{\an1}We were playing with Neil Young
in Europe,</font>

1125
01:00:39,469 --> 01:00:40,887
<font size="41">{\an1}a whole bunch of dates,
so I'm listening</font>

1126
01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:43,306
<font size="41">{\an1}to all his catalogue right now.</font>

1127
01:00:43,389 --> 01:00:44,891
<font size="41">{\an1}Everyone loves Neil Young.</font>

1128
01:00:46,059 --> 01:00:47,685
<font size="41">{\an1}It's good to play with him,
yeah.</font>

1129
01:00:47,769 --> 01:00:50,730
<font size="41">{\an1}He's Canadian,
and he's a great artist.</font>

1130
01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:53,941
<font size="41">{\an1}And he's got a lot
of sort of musical history,</font>

1131
01:00:54,025 --> 01:00:55,777
<font size="41">{\an1}and he's very sage.</font>

1132
01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:58,696
<font size="41">{\an1}So it'll be good to be around
that kind of a vibe for a while.</font>

1133
01:01:01,282 --> 01:01:04,369
<font size="41">{\an1}There were so many people
that came to her show.</font>

1134
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:08,706
<font size="41">{\an1}Beck rode with us on the bus,
Dave Grohl rode with us.</font>

1135
01:01:08,790 --> 01:01:09,791
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: We were with</font>

1136
01:01:09,874 --> 01:01:11,376
<font size="41">{\an1}the Foo Fighters
a lot of the time.</font>

1137
01:01:11,459 --> 01:01:13,252
<font size="41">{\an1}And the Foo Fighters rock.</font>

1138
01:01:13,336 --> 01:01:15,171
<font size="41">{\an1}Dave would leave notes sometimes</font>

1139
01:01:15,254 --> 01:01:16,923
<font size="41">{\an1}'cause they knew we'd
be playing the club</font>

1140
01:01:17,006 --> 01:01:18,216
<font size="41">{\an1}a week later or something.</font>

1141
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:22,178
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Ob-la-di, ob-la-da ♪</font>

1142
01:01:22,261 --> 01:01:23,971
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Life goes on, wah ♪</font>

1143
01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:26,516
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ La, la, how the life goes on ♪</font>

1144
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,226
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Ob-la-di, ob-la-da ♪</font>

1145
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:29,977
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Life goes on, wah ♪</font>

1146
01:01:30,061 --> 01:01:32,563
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ La, la, how the life goes on ♪</font>

1147
01:01:32,647 --> 01:01:34,232
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Ob-la-di, ob-la-da ♪</font>

1148
01:01:34,315 --> 01:01:36,067
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Life goes on, wah ♪</font>

1149
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:38,653
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ La, la, how the life goes on ♪</font>

1150
01:01:38,736 --> 01:01:40,279
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Ob-la-di, ob-la-da ♪</font>

1151
01:01:40,363 --> 01:01:41,948
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Life goes on, wah ♪</font>

1152
01:01:42,031 --> 01:01:44,450
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ La, la, how the life goes on ♪</font>

1153
01:01:51,207 --> 01:01:52,708
<font size="41">{\an1}Whoo!</font>

1154
01:01:52,792 --> 01:01:54,460
<font size="41">{\an1}Thank you, God bless you.</font>

1155
01:01:54,544 --> 01:01:59,590
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1156
01:02:02,677 --> 01:02:05,513
<font size="41">{\an1}-ALANIS: Where? Did we miss it?
-BAND MEMBER: Come back around.</font>

1157
01:02:07,723 --> 01:02:09,976
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: I remember
being protective of her.</font>

1158
01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:11,144
<font size="41">{\an1}I remember playing clubs</font>

1159
01:02:11,227 --> 01:02:13,187
<font size="41">{\an1}and guys trying to sneak
backstage and stuff,</font>

1160
01:02:13,271 --> 01:02:14,439
<font size="41">{\an1}just a little bit.</font>

1161
01:02:14,522 --> 01:02:16,983
<font size="41">{\an1}But I just remember us being,
like, protective of her.</font>

1162
01:02:17,066 --> 01:02:20,278
<font size="41">{\an1}And her being sort of
protective of us</font>

1163
01:02:20,361 --> 01:02:22,655
<font size="41">{\an1}and also being like, you know,</font>

1164
01:02:22,738 --> 01:02:24,407
<font size="41">{\an1}"You guys being good boys
out here?"</font>

1165
01:02:24,490 --> 01:02:27,076
<font size="41">{\an1}Which, of course,
we were fucking not at all.</font>

1166
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,372
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, the most debaucherous
tour I've ever done in my life</font>

1167
01:02:31,456 --> 01:02:32,748
<font size="41">{\an1}was with Alanis Morissette.</font>

1168
01:02:33,833 --> 01:02:34,792
<font size="41">{\an1}BAND MEMBER: Aloha.</font>

1169
01:02:34,876 --> 01:02:36,210
<font size="41">{\an1}CHRIS: We were just partying.</font>

1170
01:02:36,294 --> 01:02:37,837
<font size="41">{\an1}Like, that's what
our heroes did.</font>

1171
01:02:38,629 --> 01:02:40,047
<font size="41">{\an1}I remember Slash saying,</font>

1172
01:02:40,131 --> 01:02:43,217
<font size="41">{\an1}"God, I remember hearing about
how you guys were on that tour."</font>

1173
01:02:43,301 --> 01:02:46,053
<font size="41">{\an1}"I mean, I heard you guys were
partying harder than we were."</font>

1174
01:02:47,472 --> 01:02:50,683
<font size="41">{\an1}These, like, 24,
25-year-old guys.</font>

1175
01:02:50,766 --> 01:02:52,477
<font size="41">{\an1}We have, like, hormones on fire.</font>

1176
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,853
<font size="41">{\an1}Now we're rock stars playing</font>

1177
01:02:53,936 --> 01:02:55,771
<font size="41">{\an1}with the biggest pop star
on the planet.</font>

1178
01:02:59,817 --> 01:03:00,985
<font size="41">{\an1}CHRIS: Chicago!</font>

1179
01:03:03,571 --> 01:03:04,822
<font size="41">{\an1}Hey, Taylor!</font>

1180
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:07,283
<font size="41">{\an1}''Hey, there's the man.</font>

1181
01:03:07,366 --> 01:03:09,911
<font size="41">{\an1}-I started this. I started--
-Good job.</font>

1182
01:03:09,994 --> 01:03:12,038
<font size="41">{\an1}-That's her pen.
-He's so hot, isn't he?</font>

1183
01:03:12,121 --> 01:03:13,122
<font size="41">{\an1}-Yeah!
-Yeah.</font>

1184
01:03:13,206 --> 01:03:14,749
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: As Alanis is rising,</font>

1185
01:03:14,832 --> 01:03:17,585
<font size="41">{\an1}strong woman,
standing up for, you know...</font>

1186
01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:21,214
<font size="41">{\an1}just, like, feminism,
you know, essentially.</font>

1187
01:03:21,297 --> 01:03:22,340
<font size="41">{\an1}And...</font>

1188
01:03:23,799 --> 01:03:26,969
<font size="41">{\an1}And we were all just,
the whole band was just...</font>

1189
01:03:27,053 --> 01:03:30,598
<font size="41">{\an1}trying to fuck as many chicks
as we possibly could</font>

1190
01:03:30,681 --> 01:03:31,724
<font size="41">{\an1}the whole time.</font>

1191
01:03:31,807 --> 01:03:33,059
<font size="41">{\an1}Here we have Jesse Tobias</font>

1192
01:03:33,142 --> 01:03:34,435
<font size="41">{\an1}getting in on
the autograph scam.</font>

1193
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,021
<font size="41">{\an1}Got a lot of young ladies
that want to meet him.</font>

1194
01:03:37,104 --> 01:03:40,191
<font size="41">{\an1}Can we be your groupies and tag
along on the road with you?</font>

1195
01:03:40,274 --> 01:03:41,359
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: These young women</font>

1196
01:03:41,442 --> 01:03:43,402
<font size="41">{\an1}are coming just to hear
what I have to say,</font>

1197
01:03:43,486 --> 01:03:46,072
<font size="41">{\an1}and then you're manipulating
the groupie conversation?</font>

1198
01:03:46,155 --> 01:03:48,032
<font size="41">{\an1}Even the word "groupie",
I'm like, "No."</font>

1199
01:03:48,115 --> 01:03:51,160
<font size="41">{\an1}You mean a human fucking being
coming to a show.</font>

1200
01:03:51,244 --> 01:03:54,121
<font size="41">{\an1}Agenda-d or not.
Doesn't fucking matter.</font>

1201
01:03:55,331 --> 01:03:57,875
<font size="41">{\an1}We had a stack of
after-show passes.</font>

1202
01:03:59,293 --> 01:04:01,045
<font size="41">{\an1}I can't believe I'm gonna
tell you this.</font>

1203
01:04:01,128 --> 01:04:03,714
<font size="41">{\an1}We literally had a room</font>

1204
01:04:03,798 --> 01:04:05,383
<font size="41">{\an1}on the other side of the arena,</font>

1205
01:04:05,466 --> 01:04:07,885
<font size="41">{\an1}and our guitar tech would
give out passes.</font>

1206
01:04:07,969 --> 01:04:10,846
<font size="41">{\an1}To bring women backstage
who just are dying.</font>

1207
01:04:10,930 --> 01:04:13,683
<font size="41">{\an1}They want to meet Alanis.
Maybe they want to meet us,</font>

1208
01:04:13,766 --> 01:04:16,102
<font size="41">{\an1}but we know they want
to meet Alanis.</font>

1209
01:04:16,185 --> 01:04:20,439
<font size="41">{\an1}The hypocrisy of what her music
and message was,</font>

1210
01:04:20,523 --> 01:04:23,526
<font size="41">{\an1}then here you have us,
like, scoundrels.</font>

1211
01:04:23,609 --> 01:04:24,902
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, trying to get laid.</font>

1212
01:04:24,986 --> 01:04:26,612
<font size="41">{\an1}You know what?
Taylor's out there stealing all</font>

1213
01:04:26,696 --> 01:04:27,655
<font size="41">{\an1}the young girls, Alanis.</font>

1214
01:04:27,738 --> 01:04:29,073
<font size="41">{\an1}-He's right there, hon.
-He's in here.</font>

1215
01:04:29,156 --> 01:04:30,408
<font size="41">{\an1}You fucking liar!</font>

1216
01:04:30,491 --> 01:04:32,118
<font size="41">{\an1}What are you talking about,
you turkey?</font>

1217
01:04:34,495 --> 01:04:35,746
<font size="41">{\an1}And then Alanis found out
about that,</font>

1218
01:04:35,830 --> 01:04:37,790
<font size="41">{\an1}and she got so fucking
pissed at us.</font>

1219
01:04:39,333 --> 01:04:41,919
<font size="41">{\an1}It did feel disrespectful to me.</font>

1220
01:04:42,003 --> 01:04:44,589
<font size="41">{\an1}Some of the behavior
just didn't match</font>

1221
01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:47,758
<font size="41">{\an1}my mission or my value system
at all.</font>

1222
01:04:47,842 --> 01:04:51,637
<font size="41">{\an1}But I'd only grown up
around men.</font>

1223
01:04:51,721 --> 01:04:53,306
<font size="41">{\an1}So I just thought, "Okay, well,</font>

1224
01:04:53,389 --> 01:04:55,182
<font size="41">{\an1}you gonna replace them
with five other men</font>

1225
01:04:55,266 --> 01:04:58,060
<font size="41">{\an1}that are gonna do the exact same
thing and won't sound as great?"</font>

1226
01:04:58,144 --> 01:04:59,937
<font size="41">{\an1}(LAUGHS)</font>

1227
01:05:02,982 --> 01:05:05,443
<font size="41">{\an1}All those years of sitting in my
bedroom practicing my guitar,</font>

1228
01:05:05,526 --> 01:05:07,445
<font size="41">{\an1}how did they get me
to right now?</font>

1229
01:05:09,322 --> 01:05:11,032
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: What can I ask you?</font>

1230
01:05:11,115 --> 01:05:16,579
<font size="41">{\an1}What's it like being a male
playing in a band with a woman?</font>

1231
01:05:17,330 --> 01:05:18,247
<font size="41">{\an1}NICK: I think, in a sense,</font>

1232
01:05:18,331 --> 01:05:20,291
<font size="41">{\an1}lead singers are
their own breed.</font>

1233
01:05:20,374 --> 01:05:21,417
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: A dime a dozen? (LAUGHS)</font>

1234
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:22,668
<font size="41">{\an1}NICK: No, they're
their own breed,</font>

1235
01:05:22,752 --> 01:05:24,128
<font size="41">{\an1}whether you're male or female.</font>

1236
01:05:24,211 --> 01:05:27,089
<font size="41">{\an1}You guys, this looks so amazing.
I'm dying.</font>

1237
01:05:28,507 --> 01:05:30,509
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: When you are
the only woman</font>

1238
01:05:30,593 --> 01:05:33,596
<font size="41">{\an1}in a male-dominated environment,</font>

1239
01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:37,558
<font size="41">{\an1}no matter what the relationship
is with your peers</font>

1240
01:05:37,642 --> 01:05:39,185
<font size="41">{\an1}or your employees,</font>

1241
01:05:39,268 --> 01:05:42,146
<font size="41">{\an1}it's still, I think, very
complicated and complex.</font>

1242
01:05:42,229 --> 01:05:44,649
<font size="41">{\an1}Men have not been raised
to believe</font>

1243
01:05:44,732 --> 01:05:45,983
<font size="41">{\an1}that women should have</font>

1244
01:05:46,067 --> 01:05:49,070
<font size="41">{\an1}as much social and economic
power as they do.</font>

1245
01:05:50,237 --> 01:05:53,491
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't pay attention to
who her band was. But...</font>

1246
01:05:55,117 --> 01:05:58,162
<font size="41">{\an1}were we supposed to?
(CHUCKLES)</font>

1247
01:05:58,245 --> 01:06:00,164
<font size="41">{\an1}-ALANIS: Michelle. There she is.
-Hi.</font>

1248
01:06:00,247 --> 01:06:02,375
<font size="41">{\an1}-ALANIS: Hi, cutie.
-Hi.</font>

1249
01:06:02,458 --> 01:06:04,251
<font size="41">{\an1}MICHELE: The fact
that the band wasn't</font>

1250
01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:06,837
<font size="41">{\an1}"Alanis Morissette
and the Heartbreakers",</font>

1251
01:06:07,672 --> 01:06:09,548
<font size="41">{\an1}the fact that they weren't</font>

1252
01:06:09,632 --> 01:06:13,177
<font size="41">{\an1}headlining with their names
and Alanis,</font>

1253
01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:15,680
<font size="41">{\an1}it might have been
hard for them.</font>

1254
01:06:18,224 --> 01:06:21,060
<font size="41">{\an1}It was what it was.
I mean, it's my record.</font>

1255
01:06:21,143 --> 01:06:22,144
<font size="41">{\an1}This is Jagged Little Pill.</font>

1256
01:06:22,228 --> 01:06:25,064
<font size="41">{\an1}And you're all knocking it
out of the park</font>

1257
01:06:25,147 --> 01:06:28,901
<font size="41">{\an1}and taking it to a whole
other level.</font>

1258
01:06:28,984 --> 01:06:33,656
<font size="41">{\an1}But there was no way around
the fact that it was me.</font>

1259
01:06:35,282 --> 01:06:36,534
<font size="41">{\an1}You auditioned for--</font>

1260
01:06:36,617 --> 01:06:40,788
<font size="41">{\an1}You auditioned to be
in the band for a solo artist.</font>

1261
01:06:40,871 --> 01:06:42,915
<font size="41">{\an1}So, if that's not what
you're okay with...</font>

1262
01:06:44,208 --> 01:06:45,459
<font size="41">{\an1}you don't have to be here.</font>

1263
01:06:45,543 --> 01:06:48,546
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("YOU OUGHTA KNOW" BY SCALA
& KOLACNY BROTHERS PLAYS) ♪</font>

1264
01:06:48,629 --> 01:06:51,841
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I want you to know ♪</font>

1265
01:06:51,924 --> 01:06:55,428
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That I'm happy for you ♪</font>

1266
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:59,890
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I wish nothing but ♪</font>

1267
01:06:59,974 --> 01:07:03,185
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ The best for you both ♪</font>

1268
01:07:03,269 --> 01:07:07,148
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ An older version of me
Is she perverted like me? ♪</font>

1269
01:07:07,231 --> 01:07:10,943
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Will she go down on you
in a theatre? ♪</font>

1270
01:07:11,026 --> 01:07:13,154
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Does she speak eloquently? ♪</font>

1271
01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:15,114
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And would she have your baby ♪</font>

1272
01:07:15,197 --> 01:07:19,118
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I'm sure she'd make
a really excellent mother ♪</font>

1273
01:07:19,201 --> 01:07:21,036
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ 'Cause the love that you gave
that we made ♪</font>

1274
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,832
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Wasn't able to make it enough
for you to be open wide ♪</font>

1275
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:27,585
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ No ♪</font>

1276
01:07:27,668 --> 01:07:29,295
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And every time
you speak her name ♪</font>

1277
01:07:29,378 --> 01:07:32,465
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Does she know how you told me
you'd hold me until you died ♪</font>

1278
01:07:32,548 --> 01:07:34,967
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Till you died
But you're still alive ♪</font>

1279
01:07:35,050 --> 01:07:38,804
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ But I'm here to remind you ♪</font>

1280
01:07:38,888 --> 01:07:40,806
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Of the mess you left... ♪</font>

1281
01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:44,018
<font size="41">{\an1}LISA: As soon as Alanis'
started becoming a thing,</font>

1282
01:07:44,101 --> 01:07:46,812
<font size="41">{\an1}of course came the idea
that she was Svengali'd</font>

1283
01:07:46,896 --> 01:07:49,148
<font size="41">{\an1}because she wrote the record
with Glen Ballard.</font>

1284
01:07:49,231 --> 01:07:52,693
<font size="41">{\an1}Therefore, clearly, it's good,
so it had to come from a man.</font>

1285
01:07:54,737 --> 01:07:57,782
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: It's still an instinct
to diminish any woman</font>

1286
01:07:57,865 --> 01:08:01,202
<font size="41">{\an1}who isn't willing to participate</font>

1287
01:08:01,285 --> 01:08:05,414
<font size="41">{\an1}in the little box that has been
carved out for her in society.</font>

1288
01:08:05,498 --> 01:08:08,042
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF: All the
Jagged Little Pill
reviews that I read</font>

1289
01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:09,251
<font size="41">{\an1}were written by men</font>

1290
01:08:09,335 --> 01:08:13,839
<font size="41">{\an1}who could not move
beyond this binary of,</font>

1291
01:08:13,923 --> 01:08:16,675
<font size="41">{\an1}"Well, she's angrier
than we'd like her to be."</font>

1292
01:08:16,759 --> 01:08:19,512
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: When I write really
angry songs about someone,</font>

1293
01:08:19,594 --> 01:08:21,721
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm not writing
to get back at that person,</font>

1294
01:08:21,806 --> 01:08:23,349
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm writing because
it's the only environment</font>

1295
01:08:23,432 --> 01:08:26,393
<font size="41">{\an1}where I can get angry and not
have it be destructive.</font>

1296
01:08:26,477 --> 01:08:31,232
<font size="41">{\an1}It's just an expression,
unjudged, uncensored.</font>

1297
01:08:31,315 --> 01:08:34,193
<font size="41">{\an1}It's a very pure, sacred place
to me.</font>

1298
01:08:35,443 --> 01:08:38,863
<font size="41">{\an1}JOHANNA: "You Oughta Know"
created this perception</font>

1299
01:08:38,948 --> 01:08:43,702
<font size="41">{\an1}that Alanis was this
rageful, vengeful,</font>

1300
01:08:43,786 --> 01:08:45,996
<font size="41">{\an1}angry young woman.</font>

1301
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,997
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF: And of course,
that's gendered, right?</font>

1302
01:08:48,082 --> 01:08:50,209
<font size="41">{\an1}Of course, so much of it was,
at its core,</font>

1303
01:08:50,291 --> 01:08:52,920
<font size="41">{\an1}"Well, why is this woman
so angry?"</font>

1304
01:08:53,003 --> 01:08:55,548
<font size="41">{\an1}Even in the reviews that praised
Jagged Little Pill,</font>

1305
01:08:55,630 --> 01:08:57,383
<font size="41">{\an1}there are people who were
just, like, "Well, gosh,</font>

1306
01:08:57,466 --> 01:08:58,925
<font size="41">{\an1}she's just so angry."</font>

1307
01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:02,304
<font size="41">{\an1}They were bearing witness
to someone who was</font>

1308
01:09:02,388 --> 01:09:04,849
<font size="41">{\an1}an immensely gifted writer.</font>

1309
01:09:04,932 --> 01:09:07,268
<font size="41">{\an1}It was easier to kind of, like,
backhandedly compliment</font>

1310
01:09:07,351 --> 01:09:10,353
<font size="41">{\an1}the writing while couching
it in, "But she's so angry."</font>

1311
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,943
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: Empowerment
as a young woman in the '90s</font>

1312
01:09:16,026 --> 01:09:18,487
<font size="41">{\an1}was exciting for a lot
of people.</font>

1313
01:09:18,571 --> 01:09:23,367
<font size="41">{\an1}But it was also not good news
for the patriarchy.</font>

1314
01:09:23,450 --> 01:09:27,705
<font size="41">{\an1}All of a sudden, I started
naming it or singing about it.</font>

1315
01:09:27,788 --> 01:09:29,915
<font size="41">{\an1}That was not welcome.</font>

1316
01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:33,210
<font size="41">{\an1}If you spoke up, you were just
immediately shut down...</font>

1317
01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:35,587
<font size="41">{\an1}and shamed.</font>

1318
01:09:35,671 --> 01:09:36,797
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That you gave to me ♪</font>

1319
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,842
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You, you, you oughta know ♪</font>

1320
01:09:43,219 --> 01:09:46,348
<font size="41">{\an1}The point in my writing
these songs...</font>

1321
01:09:46,432 --> 01:09:47,933
<font size="41">{\an1}I was not writing to punish.</font>

1322
01:09:48,017 --> 01:09:50,644
<font size="41">{\an1}I was writing to express
and get it out of my body</font>

1323
01:09:50,728 --> 01:09:52,646
<font size="41">{\an1}because I didn't want
to get sick.</font>

1324
01:09:54,523 --> 01:09:57,067
<font size="41">{\an1}When I was younger, I spent
a lot of time with adults.</font>

1325
01:09:57,151 --> 01:10:00,487
<font size="41">{\an1}And I immersed myself in
an industry that, you know,</font>

1326
01:10:00,571 --> 01:10:02,781
<font size="41">{\an1}forces you to have an
accelerated growth.</font>

1327
01:10:02,865 --> 01:10:04,950
<font size="41">{\an1}So you have to grow up
in order to control</font>

1328
01:10:05,034 --> 01:10:06,410
<font size="41">{\an1}what's happening to you,
I suppose.</font>

1329
01:10:06,493 --> 01:10:08,704
<font size="41">{\an1}Yeah, self-protection,
self-preservation.</font>

1330
01:10:09,914 --> 01:10:11,373
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, I had no idea what
the concept</font>

1331
01:10:11,457 --> 01:10:13,291
<font size="41">{\an1}of "professional boundary"
meant.</font>

1332
01:10:13,375 --> 01:10:15,127
<font size="41">{\an1}But it was me getting
a sense of...</font>

1333
01:10:16,962 --> 01:10:18,964
<font size="41">{\an1}boundaries, or lack thereof.</font>

1334
01:10:19,048 --> 01:10:20,633
<font size="41">{\an1}INTERVIEWER: Have you had
some bad loves?</font>

1335
01:10:20,716 --> 01:10:21,800
<font size="41">{\an1}Yes, definitely.</font>

1336
01:10:21,884 --> 01:10:24,011
<font size="41">{\an1}I've had a lot of sort of
negative relationships,</font>

1337
01:10:24,094 --> 01:10:25,888
<font size="41">{\an1}definitely. Um...</font>

1338
01:10:25,971 --> 01:10:29,141
<font size="41">{\an1}partly-- you know, partly my
responsibility, really.</font>

1339
01:10:29,224 --> 01:10:32,269
<font size="41">{\an1}I take-- You know,
I take responsibility for those.</font>

1340
01:10:32,353 --> 01:10:34,188
<font size="41">{\an1}No, no, no, you don't have
to blame yourself.</font>

1341
01:10:34,271 --> 01:10:37,273
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm not blaming myself.
I'm taking part responsibility.</font>

1342
01:10:40,861 --> 01:10:43,447
<font size="41">{\an1}Me not telling specific
information about</font>

1343
01:10:43,530 --> 01:10:45,282
<font size="41">{\an1}my experience as a teenager</font>

1344
01:10:45,366 --> 01:10:50,371
<font size="41">{\an1}was almost solely around
wanting to protect.</font>

1345
01:10:51,538 --> 01:10:54,166
<font size="41">{\an1}Protect my parents, protect...</font>

1346
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:58,045
<font size="41">{\an1}my brothers,
protect future partners,</font>

1347
01:10:58,128 --> 01:11:00,880
<font size="41">{\an1}protect myself,
protect my physical safety.</font>

1348
01:11:02,549 --> 01:11:03,550
<font size="41">{\an1}Yeah.</font>

1349
01:11:05,344 --> 01:11:06,344
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm gonna need some help,</font>

1350
01:11:06,428 --> 01:11:08,055
<font size="41">{\an1}'cause I never talk
about this shit.</font>

1351
01:11:09,682 --> 01:11:10,975
<font size="41">{\an1}There was a lot of shame</font>

1352
01:11:11,058 --> 01:11:15,103
<font size="41">{\an1}around having any kind of
victimization of any kind.</font>

1353
01:11:15,187 --> 01:11:17,523
<font size="41">{\an1}And it took me years in therapy
to even admit</font>

1354
01:11:17,606 --> 01:11:19,984
<font size="41">{\an1}that there had been any kind
of victimization on my part.</font>

1355
01:11:20,067 --> 01:11:21,860
<font size="41">{\an1}I would always say, you know,</font>

1356
01:11:21,943 --> 01:11:23,320
<font size="41">{\an1}"I was consenting."
You know?</font>

1357
01:11:23,404 --> 01:11:26,156
<font size="41">{\an1}And then I'd be reminded, like,
"Hey, you were 15."</font>

1358
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:27,825
<font size="41">{\an1}"You're not consenting at 15."</font>

1359
01:11:27,907 --> 01:11:30,160
<font size="41">{\an1}Now I'm like, "Oh yeah,
they're all pedophiles."</font>

1360
01:11:30,244 --> 01:11:31,704
<font size="41">{\an1}"It's all statutory rape."</font>

1361
01:11:35,499 --> 01:11:38,377
<font size="41">{\an1}I did tell a few people
and they--</font>

1362
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:41,964
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, it kind of fell
on deaf ears a little bit.</font>

1363
01:11:42,047 --> 01:11:46,135
<font size="41">{\an1}It would usually be a "stand up,
walk out of the room" moment.</font>

1364
01:11:46,218 --> 01:11:49,221
<font size="41">{\an1}So a lot of people say, "Why did
that woman wait 30 years?"</font>

1365
01:11:49,304 --> 01:11:51,639
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm like, "Fuck off, they didn't
wait 30 years."</font>

1366
01:11:51,724 --> 01:11:54,393
<font size="41">{\an1}"No one was listening, or their
livelihood was threatened,</font>

1367
01:11:54,476 --> 01:11:56,895
<font size="41">{\an1}or their family was threatened."</font>

1368
01:11:56,978 --> 01:11:59,982
<font size="41">{\an1}So, yeah, the whole
"why do women wait" thing,</font>

1369
01:12:00,065 --> 01:12:01,900
<font size="41">{\an1}women don't wait.</font>

1370
01:12:01,984 --> 01:12:03,318
<font size="41">{\an1}A culture doesn't listen.</font>

1371
01:12:03,943 --> 01:12:06,071
<font size="41">{\an1}(PROJECTOR WHIRRING)</font>

1372
01:12:26,341 --> 01:12:28,761
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF: Whenever people talk
about the album,</font>

1373
01:12:28,844 --> 01:12:32,973
<font size="41">{\an1}they are often quick to talk
about the anger in it,</font>

1374
01:12:33,057 --> 01:12:37,978
<font size="41">{\an1}but not about the release or
the joy or the pleasure in it.</font>

1375
01:12:38,062 --> 01:12:41,857
<font size="41">{\an1}Because Jagged Little Pill
is also a humorous album.</font>

1376
01:12:41,940 --> 01:12:45,110
<font size="41">{\an1}And it's also playful,
and it's also layered.</font>

1377
01:12:45,193 --> 01:12:48,489
<font size="41">{\an1}It's also heartbreaking,
but promising.</font>

1378
01:12:49,823 --> 01:12:52,659
<font size="41">{\an1}None of the rest of that album
is that angry.</font>

1379
01:12:54,327 --> 01:12:56,580
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: What about songs like
"Head Over Feet"?</font>

1380
01:12:56,663 --> 01:12:58,957
<font size="41">{\an1}What about songs like
"You Learn"?</font>

1381
01:12:59,041 --> 01:13:00,959
<font size="41">{\an1}KEVIN: I mean, come on,
you throw</font>

1382
01:13:01,043 --> 01:13:02,294
<font size="41">{\an1}a fucking rock at that album,</font>

1383
01:13:02,377 --> 01:13:05,755
<font size="41">{\an1}you hit a song that somebody
sang, anthem-like,</font>

1384
01:13:05,839 --> 01:13:07,508
<font size="41">{\an1}over and over and over again.</font>

1385
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:12,262
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: There's only one song that
I wanted on the record</font>

1386
01:13:12,346 --> 01:13:14,181
<font size="41">{\an1}that nobody really wanted
on the record.</font>

1387
01:13:14,264 --> 01:13:15,974
<font size="41">{\an1}It was called "Ironic".</font>

1388
01:13:16,058 --> 01:13:20,938
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("IRONIC"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

1389
01:13:21,021 --> 01:13:24,358
<font size="41">{\an1}I begged. And we put it
way down the list.</font>

1390
01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:29,737
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ An old man ♪</font>

1391
01:13:30,614 --> 01:13:32,449
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Turned 98 ♪</font>

1392
01:13:33,157 --> 01:13:36,411
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ He won the lottery ♪</font>

1393
01:13:36,495 --> 01:13:38,831
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And died the next day ♪</font>

1394
01:13:39,998 --> 01:13:42,459
<font size="41">{\an1}The idea of something that's
almost perfect</font>

1395
01:13:42,543 --> 01:13:43,877
<font size="41">{\an1}and then something ruins it.</font>

1396
01:13:45,754 --> 01:13:48,674
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's a death row pardon ♪</font>

1397
01:13:48,757 --> 01:13:51,468
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Two minutes too late ♪</font>

1398
01:13:51,552 --> 01:13:53,594
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Isn't it ironic? ♪</font>

1399
01:13:54,513 --> 01:13:56,473
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Don't you think? ♪</font>

1400
01:13:56,557 --> 01:13:59,559
<font size="41">{\an1}For her to write, "It's like
rain on your wedding day..."</font>

1401
01:14:00,309 --> 01:14:01,395
<font size="41">{\an1}It's like...</font>

1402
01:14:02,228 --> 01:14:03,063
<font size="41">{\an1}What a hook.</font>

1403
01:14:03,147 --> 01:14:05,816
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm sorry, she just
fucking nailed it.</font>

1404
01:14:05,898 --> 01:14:09,570
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's like rain ♪</font>

1405
01:14:09,653 --> 01:14:11,612
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ On your wedding day ♪</font>

1406
01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:15,159
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's a free ride ♪</font>

1407
01:14:15,242 --> 01:14:17,327
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ When you've already paid ♪</font>

1408
01:14:17,411 --> 01:14:20,831
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's the good advice ♪</font>

1409
01:14:20,914 --> 01:14:23,333
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That you just didn't take ♪</font>

1410
01:14:23,416 --> 01:14:26,378
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And who would've thought? ♪</font>

1411
01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:29,339
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It figures ♪</font>

1412
01:14:29,423 --> 01:14:34,344
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Mr. Play-It-Safe
was afraid to fly ♪</font>

1413
01:14:34,428 --> 01:14:40,475
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ He packed his suitcase
and kissed his kids goodbye ♪</font>

1414
01:14:40,559 --> 01:14:47,023
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ He waited his whole damn life
to take that flight ♪</font>

1415
01:14:47,107 --> 01:14:51,153
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF: She almost writes
with communal gathering in mind.</font>

1416
01:14:52,654 --> 01:14:55,449
<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis is one of those artists
who has mastered</font>

1417
01:14:55,532 --> 01:14:58,160
<font size="41">{\an1}the shout-along crescendo.</font>

1418
01:14:58,243 --> 01:15:03,874
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's like rain
on your wedding day ♪</font>

1419
01:15:03,957 --> 01:15:09,838
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's a free ride
when you've already paid ♪</font>

1420
01:15:09,922 --> 01:15:16,261
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's the good advice
that you just didn't take ♪</font>

1421
01:15:16,344 --> 01:15:23,434
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And who would have thought?
It figures ♪</font>

1422
01:15:25,353 --> 01:15:29,566
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1423
01:15:29,650 --> 01:15:32,818
<font size="41">{\an1}A-one, and a-two,
and a-one, two, three.</font>

1424
01:15:32,903 --> 01:15:37,324
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Well, life has a funny way
of sneaking up on you ♪</font>

1425
01:15:37,407 --> 01:15:40,285
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ When you think
everything's okay ♪</font>

1426
01:15:40,369 --> 01:15:44,748
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And everything's going right ♪</font>

1427
01:15:46,166 --> 01:15:47,291
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And yeah, well ♪</font>

1428
01:15:47,376 --> 01:15:50,712
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Life has a funnier way
of helping you out ♪</font>

1429
01:15:50,796 --> 01:15:53,882
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ When you think
everything's gone very wrong ♪</font>

1430
01:15:53,966 --> 01:15:57,594
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And everything blows up
in your face ♪</font>

1431
01:16:00,806 --> 01:16:03,308
<font size="41">{\an1}KEVIN: It's a female artist
singing about</font>

1432
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:05,394
<font size="41">{\an1}a female life and identity</font>

1433
01:16:05,477 --> 01:16:07,521
<font size="41">{\an1}that transcended gender,</font>

1434
01:16:07,603 --> 01:16:09,898
<font size="41">{\an1}where dudes could be like,
"I feel the same way."</font>

1435
01:16:11,692 --> 01:16:14,778
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF: She's also great
with imagery.</font>

1436
01:16:14,861 --> 01:16:19,616
<font size="41">{\an1}While people were arguing over
the linguistic use of irony,</font>

1437
01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:23,120
<font size="41">{\an1}I think they missed out
on the imagery.</font>

1438
01:16:23,202 --> 01:16:25,455
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's like 10,000 spoons ♪</font>

1439
01:16:25,539 --> 01:16:28,291
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ When all you need is a knife ♪</font>

1440
01:16:28,375 --> 01:16:30,794
<font size="41">{\an1}GLEN: Ten thousand spoons
when all you need is a knife.</font>

1441
01:16:30,877 --> 01:16:33,922
<font size="41">{\an1}Who comes up with that shit?
Alanis, you know?</font>

1442
01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:37,217
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Isn't it ironic? ♪</font>

1443
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:39,094
<font size="41">{\an1}HANIF: When you talk about rain
on your wedding day,</font>

1444
01:16:39,177 --> 01:16:41,972
<font size="41">{\an1}I can see and feel
the disappointment</font>

1445
01:16:42,055 --> 01:16:43,139
<font size="41">{\an1}that comes with that.</font>

1446
01:16:43,223 --> 01:16:45,642
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't know what that was
when I was 13, 14.</font>

1447
01:16:45,726 --> 01:16:49,103
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's like rain ♪</font>

1448
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:51,982
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ On your wedding day ♪</font>

1449
01:16:52,065 --> 01:16:54,818
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's a free ride ♪</font>

1450
01:16:54,901 --> 01:16:57,237
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ When you've already paid ♪</font>

1451
01:16:57,321 --> 01:17:00,490
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's the good advice ♪</font>

1452
01:17:00,574 --> 01:17:03,535
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That you just didn't take ♪</font>

1453
01:17:03,618 --> 01:17:06,371
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And who would have thought? ♪</font>

1454
01:17:06,455 --> 01:17:10,834
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It figures ♪</font>

1455
01:17:12,127 --> 01:17:13,378
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

1456
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:15,880
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Yeah, yeah, well ♪</font>

1457
01:17:15,964 --> 01:17:19,800
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Life has a funny way
of sneaking up on you ♪</font>

1458
01:17:19,885 --> 01:17:26,892
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

1459
01:17:34,523 --> 01:17:38,236
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1460
01:17:55,879 --> 01:17:57,380
<font size="41">{\an1}DRIVER: Hey, do you want me
to go straight</font>

1461
01:17:57,464 --> 01:17:59,216
<font size="41">{\an1}-and we'll come back around?
-Want to get down?</font>

1462
01:18:01,718 --> 01:18:03,011
<font size="41">{\an1}Here you go.</font>

1463
01:18:03,428 --> 01:18:04,554
<font size="41">{\an1}God.</font>

1464
01:18:09,934 --> 01:18:12,062
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: I couldn't leave
my hotel room.</font>

1465
01:18:13,397 --> 01:18:16,023
<font size="41">{\an1}We'd land somewhere, and there'd
be 10,000, 20,000 people.</font>

1466
01:18:16,108 --> 01:18:19,611
<font size="41">{\an1}And I'd walk through, and people
would snip pieces of my hair</font>

1467
01:18:19,693 --> 01:18:20,904
<font size="41">{\an1}or just punch me.</font>

1468
01:18:22,656 --> 01:18:25,075
<font size="41">{\an1}That's where I was like,
"This can't be personal."</font>

1469
01:18:25,157 --> 01:18:27,244
<font size="41">{\an1}"This isn't personal."</font>

1470
01:18:27,327 --> 01:18:30,330
<font size="41">{\an1}"This is just... a thing...</font>

1471
01:18:31,623 --> 01:18:33,959
<font size="41">{\an1}that has almost nothing
to do with me."</font>

1472
01:18:36,503 --> 01:18:39,923
<font size="41">{\an1}Being in the public eye is not
a normal social construct.</font>

1473
01:18:41,591 --> 01:18:43,802
<font size="41">{\an1}I used to will myself to go
back to sleep,</font>

1474
01:18:43,885 --> 01:18:46,847
<font size="41">{\an1}because my waking life
felt like such a dream.</font>

1475
01:18:46,930 --> 01:18:49,891
<font size="41">{\an1}And when I would sleep,
it felt like a normal life.</font>

1476
01:18:49,975 --> 01:18:51,518
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And all I really want ♪</font>

1477
01:18:52,602 --> 01:18:54,228
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is some comfort ♪</font>

1478
01:18:55,730 --> 01:18:59,109
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ A way to get my hands untied ♪</font>

1479
01:19:00,818 --> 01:19:02,320
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And all I really want ♪</font>

1480
01:19:03,237 --> 01:19:05,031
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is some justice ♪</font>

1481
01:19:05,657 --> 01:19:10,412
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

1482
01:19:12,706 --> 01:19:19,504
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ All I really want ♪</font>

1483
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:26,219
<font size="41">{\an1}(SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE)</font>

1484
01:19:26,303 --> 01:19:28,388
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1485
01:19:30,307 --> 01:19:31,683
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: You're in a lot
of positions</font>

1486
01:19:31,766 --> 01:19:33,809
<font size="41">{\an1}where you want
to connect with people.</font>

1487
01:19:33,894 --> 01:19:35,520
<font size="41">{\an1}There was less of a sense
of community</font>

1488
01:19:35,603 --> 01:19:36,897
<font size="41">{\an1}than I thought there would be.</font>

1489
01:19:36,980 --> 01:19:40,108
<font size="41">{\an1}And there's a lot of illusion
within all of what I do.</font>

1490
01:19:40,192 --> 01:19:43,195
<font size="41">{\an1}There's a lot of mystery
surrounding it.</font>

1491
01:19:43,278 --> 01:19:45,655
<font size="41">{\an1}And when you really get inside
of it and you realize</font>

1492
01:19:45,739 --> 01:19:48,492
<font size="41">{\an1}that success as such may not
give you what it has</font>

1493
01:19:48,575 --> 01:19:50,243
<font size="41">{\an1}promised it would give you,</font>

1494
01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:52,537
<font size="41">{\an1}it can be very disheartening
but equally exciting</font>

1495
01:19:52,621 --> 01:19:54,831
<font size="41">{\an1}because it allows you
to question everything.</font>

1496
01:19:55,832 --> 01:19:58,376
<font size="41">{\an1}So how are you?
How was this tour for you?</font>

1497
01:19:58,460 --> 01:20:02,339
<font size="41">{\an1}The most intense thing
probably in my entire life.</font>

1498
01:20:02,422 --> 01:20:03,380
<font size="41">{\an1}Really?</font>

1499
01:20:03,465 --> 01:20:05,175
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: We toured hard.</font>

1500
01:20:05,258 --> 01:20:09,346
<font size="41">{\an1}Eighteen months
of hard-core touring.</font>

1501
01:20:09,429 --> 01:20:12,349
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, it was literally 18
months of just fucking,</font>

1502
01:20:12,432 --> 01:20:13,767
<font size="41">{\an1}"Where are we?"</font>

1503
01:20:13,850 --> 01:20:16,269
<font size="41">{\an1}"Here's your hotel key."
(SCOFFS)</font>

1504
01:20:18,271 --> 01:20:20,148
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: My work addiction
wasn't really addressed.</font>

1505
01:20:20,232 --> 01:20:22,359
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't even know there
was such thing.</font>

1506
01:20:22,442 --> 01:20:24,611
<font size="41">{\an1}If we say we work
till 5:00 in the morning,</font>

1507
01:20:24,693 --> 01:20:26,029
<font size="41">{\an1}someone would go,
"Oh, that's great."</font>

1508
01:20:26,112 --> 01:20:27,364
<font size="41">{\an1}"You must have gotten so
much done," you know?</font>

1509
01:20:27,447 --> 01:20:30,032
<font size="41">{\an1}But if I said I did heroin
till 5:00 in the morning,</font>

1510
01:20:30,116 --> 01:20:32,369
<font size="41">{\an1}people would be concerned,
understandably.</font>

1511
01:20:34,162 --> 01:20:38,458
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: Life changing, good
or bad, is still traumatic.</font>

1512
01:20:39,501 --> 01:20:44,047
<font size="41">{\an1}And all of our lives changed
on that tour.</font>

1513
01:20:46,675 --> 01:20:48,844
<font size="41">{\an1}CHRIS: Thank God our last show's
in Hawaii.</font>

1514
01:20:48,927 --> 01:20:51,596
<font size="41">{\an1}What a beautiful place
to finish it out.</font>

1515
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,932
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: Yeah, in Hawaii,
I just thought, "Oh my God...</font>

1516
01:20:55,016 --> 01:20:57,018
<font size="41">{\an1}this is over for now," you know?</font>

1517
01:20:58,019 --> 01:21:00,230
<font size="41">{\an1}And I hadn't lived anywhere.</font>

1518
01:21:00,313 --> 01:21:02,273
<font size="41">{\an1}I didn't have a home
for the whole tour.</font>

1519
01:21:02,357 --> 01:21:05,986
<font size="41">{\an1}And, you know, friendship-wise,
it was a very tenuous time</font>

1520
01:21:06,068 --> 01:21:09,489
<font size="41">{\an1}in terms of, who do I trust?
Who's a real friend?</font>

1521
01:21:09,573 --> 01:21:11,407
<font size="41">{\an1}Who's here for opportunistic
reasons?</font>

1522
01:21:11,491 --> 01:21:13,827
<font size="41">{\an1}Who's here for exploitation
reasons?</font>

1523
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:16,454
<font size="41">{\an1}Who's here because they
actually love me?</font>

1524
01:21:17,664 --> 01:21:18,707
<font size="41">{\an1}You know?</font>

1525
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:23,335
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (ROCK MUSIC PLAYS) ♪</font>

1526
01:21:31,261 --> 01:21:34,598
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1527
01:21:55,911 --> 01:21:58,455
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1528
01:21:58,538 --> 01:22:00,332
<font size="41">{\an1}Thank you very much, everyone.</font>

1529
01:22:00,415 --> 01:22:02,291
<font size="41">{\an1}Thank you so much,
it's been great.</font>

1530
01:22:03,209 --> 01:22:04,335
<font size="41">{\an1}Bye.</font>

1531
01:22:09,424 --> 01:22:11,635
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: We finished
that last show in Hawaii.</font>

1532
01:22:12,969 --> 01:22:14,679
<font size="41">{\an1}Yeah, I wasn't sure what was
gonna happen.</font>

1533
01:22:18,642 --> 01:22:20,977
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: What are you gonna do
when you're done for a while?</font>

1534
01:22:22,437 --> 01:22:24,773
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: (SHARP EXHALE)
God, I don't know.</font>

1535
01:22:24,856 --> 01:22:26,775
<font size="41">{\an1}-Go crazy for a little while.
-ALANIS: Yeah?</font>

1536
01:22:26,858 --> 01:22:29,903
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, just play drums, surf.</font>

1537
01:22:29,986 --> 01:22:30,987
<font size="41">{\an1}Surf?</font>

1538
01:22:31,071 --> 01:22:32,489
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: And that's when I heard
on the radio</font>

1539
01:22:32,572 --> 01:22:34,491
<font size="41">{\an1}that Foo Fighters
were looking for a drummer.</font>

1540
01:22:34,574 --> 01:22:38,286
<font size="41">{\an1}And I knew I'd better
figure out my next move.</font>

1541
01:22:39,245 --> 01:22:41,081
<font size="41">{\an1}(BOTH CHUCKLE)</font>

1542
01:22:41,164 --> 01:22:42,832
<font size="41">{\an1}-Okay, we won't use that.
-Okay.</font>

1543
01:22:42,916 --> 01:22:45,085
<font size="41">{\an1}TAYLOR: I went on to join
the Foo Fighters.</font>

1544
01:22:46,335 --> 01:22:51,341
<font size="41">{\an1}I remember calling her,
and she cried. And I felt...</font>

1545
01:22:53,093 --> 01:22:55,261
<font size="41">{\an1}Like I was leaving her,
you know?</font>

1546
01:22:56,179 --> 01:22:58,431
<font size="41">{\an1}But I also knew she didn't
need me.</font>

1547
01:23:00,058 --> 01:23:02,727
<font size="41">{\an1}It was definitely kind of
a "breaking up of a family"</font>

1548
01:23:02,811 --> 01:23:05,730
<font size="41">{\an1}sort of thing.
After 18 months of that,</font>

1549
01:23:05,814 --> 01:23:08,858
<font size="41">{\an1}I think that was hurtful to her.</font>

1550
01:23:08,942 --> 01:23:11,277
<font size="41">{\an1}And I think she felt
a little bit like I,</font>

1551
01:23:11,361 --> 01:23:12,404
<font size="41">{\an1}you know, betrayed her.</font>

1552
01:23:12,487 --> 01:23:14,072
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay, Taylor.</font>

1553
01:23:14,155 --> 01:23:17,157
<font size="41">{\an1}-Simple messages. Little things.
-All right.</font>

1554
01:23:17,242 --> 01:23:19,869
<font size="41">{\an1}I was full devastated.</font>

1555
01:23:19,952 --> 01:23:22,038
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, you spend time
with these people,</font>

1556
01:23:22,121 --> 01:23:25,166
<font size="41">{\an1}and you witness each other
in these contexts</font>

1557
01:23:25,250 --> 01:23:26,710
<font size="41">{\an1}that are really unusual,</font>

1558
01:23:26,793 --> 01:23:30,004
<font size="41">{\an1}and then you go your
separate ways.</font>

1559
01:23:30,088 --> 01:23:31,339
<font size="41">{\an1}And it's almost like...</font>

1560
01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:36,219
<font size="41">{\an1}their view of what had happened</font>

1561
01:23:36,678 --> 01:23:38,930
<font size="41">{\an1}goes with them.</font>

1562
01:23:39,013 --> 01:23:42,934
<font size="41">{\an1}And so it's almost like certain
chapters and eras disappear</font>

1563
01:23:43,018 --> 01:23:44,936
<font size="41">{\an1}when the witnesses disappear.</font>

1564
01:23:45,019 --> 01:23:50,233
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("MARY JANE"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

1565
01:23:51,526 --> 01:23:54,737
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ What's the matter Mary Jane? ♪</font>

1566
01:23:54,821 --> 01:23:58,532
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Had a hard day? ♪</font>

1567
01:23:58,616 --> 01:24:04,371
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ As you place the don't disturb
sign on the door ♪</font>

1568
01:24:06,875 --> 01:24:10,503
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You lost your place
in line again ♪</font>

1569
01:24:10,587 --> 01:24:14,799
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ What a pity ♪</font>

1570
01:24:14,883 --> 01:24:19,971
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You never seem to want
to dance anymore ♪</font>

1571
01:24:22,348 --> 01:24:29,189
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's a long way down ♪</font>

1572
01:24:30,356 --> 01:24:37,405
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ On this rollercoaster ♪</font>

1573
01:24:38,948 --> 01:24:43,036
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ The last chance ♪</font>

1574
01:24:43,119 --> 01:24:46,831
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Streetcar ♪</font>

1575
01:24:46,915 --> 01:24:49,166
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Went off the track ♪</font>

1576
01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:52,378
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And you're on it ♪</font>

1577
01:24:56,257 --> 01:24:59,928
<font size="41">{\an1}This is the most peaceful I've
ever been in my whole life.</font>

1578
01:25:00,011 --> 01:25:04,224
<font size="41">{\an1}With what this last year
and a half has given me,</font>

1579
01:25:04,307 --> 01:25:06,643
<font size="41">{\an1}you'd think that I wouldn't be
peaceful right now.</font>

1580
01:25:06,726 --> 01:25:09,687
<font size="41">{\an1}But I think it's forced me to go</font>

1581
01:25:09,771 --> 01:25:12,357
<font size="41">{\an1}either to a peaceful place
or a crazy place.</font>

1582
01:25:13,483 --> 01:25:18,487
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ (VOCALIZING) ♪</font>

1583
01:25:27,914 --> 01:25:34,921
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You're the sweet crusader ♪</font>

1584
01:25:35,964 --> 01:25:42,512
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And you're on your way ♪</font>

1585
01:25:44,597 --> 01:25:49,227
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You're last great ♪</font>

1586
01:25:49,309 --> 01:25:53,064
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Innocent ♪</font>

1587
01:25:53,147 --> 01:25:58,903
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And that's why I love you ♪</font>

1588
01:26:03,867 --> 01:26:08,871
<font size="41">{\an1}(CROWD CHEERS)</font>

1589
01:26:14,710 --> 01:26:19,257
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm really happy right now,
happy for my own reasons.</font>

1590
01:26:19,340 --> 01:26:21,968
<font size="41">{\an1}Not happy because
I've sold millions of records,</font>

1591
01:26:22,050 --> 01:26:23,803
<font size="41">{\an1}not happy because--</font>

1592
01:26:23,887 --> 01:26:26,806
<font size="41">{\an1}Not happy because I am
playing stadiums,</font>

1593
01:26:26,889 --> 01:26:29,559
<font size="41">{\an1}not happy because I'm touring
the world necessarily,</font>

1594
01:26:29,642 --> 01:26:33,271
<font size="41">{\an1}not happy because I'm "winning
awards", quote, unquote.</font>

1595
01:26:33,353 --> 01:26:35,523
<font size="41">{\an1}But I'm happy because I've
finally reached a place</font>

1596
01:26:35,607 --> 01:26:36,983
<font size="41">{\an1}where I can create what I want</font>

1597
01:26:37,066 --> 01:26:39,861
<font size="41">{\an1}and where I don't have to worry
about putting food on my plate.</font>

1598
01:26:42,362 --> 01:26:47,827
<font size="41">{\an1}LORRAINE: For an artist
who comes into it as themselves,</font>

1599
01:26:47,911 --> 01:26:50,371
<font size="41">{\an1}with messy hair,</font>

1600
01:26:50,455 --> 01:26:51,748
<font size="41">{\an1}with the clothes from
their closet</font>

1601
01:26:51,831 --> 01:26:54,918
<font size="41">{\an1}rather than what the record
company dressed them in,</font>

1602
01:26:55,001 --> 01:27:00,632
<font size="41">{\an1}somebody whose image
wasn't concocted and fabricated,</font>

1603
01:27:00,715 --> 01:27:04,636
<font size="41">{\an1}it's pretty phenomenal that she
broke through as big as she did</font>

1604
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:07,472
<font size="41">{\an1}and has had the longevity
that she has had,</font>

1605
01:27:07,555 --> 01:27:09,307
<font size="41">{\an1}because none of that
should have ever happened</font>

1606
01:27:09,389 --> 01:27:12,936
<font size="41">{\an1}if you went along with
what the rules are</font>

1607
01:27:13,019 --> 01:27:14,938
<font size="41">{\an1}in rock and pop fame.</font>

1608
01:27:15,021 --> 01:27:17,106
<font size="41">{\an1}But nobody told her that,
apparently.</font>

1609
01:27:18,441 --> 01:27:20,610
<font size="41">{\an1}Alanis opened a bunch
of different doors</font>

1610
01:27:20,693 --> 01:27:22,654
<font size="41">{\an1}for artists that came after her.</font>

1611
01:27:24,322 --> 01:27:29,202
<font size="41">{\an1}She inspired a generation</font>

1612
01:27:29,285 --> 01:27:33,706
<font size="41">{\an1}of confessional female
singer-songwriters.</font>

1613
01:27:33,790 --> 01:27:35,791
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And I'm here ♪</font>

1614
01:27:35,875 --> 01:27:38,962
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To remind you ♪</font>

1615
01:27:39,045 --> 01:27:42,590
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: Only in hindsight
am I aware of what Alanis did</font>

1616
01:27:42,674 --> 01:27:45,343
<font size="41">{\an1}for every woman that's
come up behind her.</font>

1617
01:27:45,425 --> 01:27:47,594
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To deny me ♪</font>

1618
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:50,181
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Of the cross you bear ♪</font>

1619
01:27:50,264 --> 01:27:53,893
<font size="41">{\an1}SHIRLEY: When you're battering
down 30 million doors,</font>

1620
01:27:53,977 --> 01:27:57,814
<font size="41">{\an1}that's helping everyone.
That's helping every woman</font>

1621
01:27:57,897 --> 01:28:03,111
<font size="41">{\an1}have just that little more
chance of being successful.</font>

1622
01:28:05,530 --> 01:28:07,407
<font size="41">{\an1}LORRAINE: After
Jagged Little Pill,</font>

1623
01:28:07,490 --> 01:28:10,785
<font size="41">{\an1}her two next albums debuted
at number one on Billboard.</font>

1624
01:28:12,412 --> 01:28:14,956
<font size="41">{\an1}And even as music is changing,</font>

1625
01:28:15,039 --> 01:28:16,874
<font size="41">{\an1}even as, you know, the names
of the artists</font>

1626
01:28:16,958 --> 01:28:19,210
<font size="41">{\an1}at the top of those charts
are changing,</font>

1627
01:28:19,293 --> 01:28:22,547
<font size="41">{\an1}she's dropping in at the top.</font>

1628
01:28:22,630 --> 01:28:26,884
<font size="41">{\an1}From Jagged Little Pill
all the way up to Broadway,</font>

1629
01:28:26,968 --> 01:28:30,096
<font size="41">{\an1}what is the core thing
that pulled her through</font>

1630
01:28:30,179 --> 01:28:31,806
<font size="41">{\an1}and kept her sane</font>

1631
01:28:31,889 --> 01:28:33,391
<font size="41">{\an1}and made it so she
didn't implode</font>

1632
01:28:33,474 --> 01:28:35,559
<font size="41">{\an1}like a billion other artists
was the music.</font>

1633
01:28:37,395 --> 01:28:39,981
<font size="41">{\an1}JOHANNA: To get shot out of
a fame rocket,</font>

1634
01:28:40,064 --> 01:28:43,568
<font size="41">{\an1}it's a very isolating
experience.</font>

1635
01:28:43,651 --> 01:28:47,487
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm so thankful that
she survived it...</font>

1636
01:28:48,740 --> 01:28:50,157
<font size="41">{\an1}that she is surviving it,</font>

1637
01:28:50,241 --> 01:28:52,869
<font size="41">{\an1}because, you know,
it's a one-way street.</font>

1638
01:28:52,952 --> 01:28:56,205
<font size="41">{\an1}And that she just has done it
with such grace</font>

1639
01:28:56,289 --> 01:28:58,666
<font size="41">{\an1}and constant self-preservation.</font>

1640
01:29:00,585 --> 01:29:01,960
<font size="41">{\an1}I take it really seriously.</font>

1641
01:29:02,045 --> 01:29:06,883
<font size="41">{\an1}I take my healing and recovery
work really, really seriously.</font>

1642
01:29:06,966 --> 01:29:10,928
<font size="41">{\an1}And I've done a lot of therapy,
copious amounts of therapy.</font>

1643
01:29:12,055 --> 01:29:13,889
<font size="41">{\an1}I feel very open.</font>

1644
01:29:13,973 --> 01:29:17,101
<font size="41">{\an1}I feel like the future
is limitless.</font>

1645
01:29:17,184 --> 01:29:18,770
<font size="41">{\an1}All of this has just begun.</font>

1646
01:29:18,853 --> 01:29:21,898
<font size="41">{\an1}All of this exploration
has just begun.</font>

1647
01:29:23,566 --> 01:29:26,861
<font size="41">{\an1}I knew pretty intuitively that
there was no way to re-create</font>

1648
01:29:26,943 --> 01:29:30,740
<font size="41">{\an1}something that ineffable
and magical.</font>

1649
01:29:31,949 --> 01:29:34,410
<font size="41">{\an1}And I thought the idea
of chasing some kind</font>

1650
01:29:34,494 --> 01:29:36,913
<font size="41">{\an1}of repetition was ridiculous.</font>

1651
01:29:36,996 --> 01:29:40,958
<font size="41">{\an1}But I also trusted
the ebbs and flows</font>

1652
01:29:41,041 --> 01:29:43,669
<font size="41">{\an1}of fame, under a rock,
fame, under a rock,</font>

1653
01:29:43,753 --> 01:29:47,548
<font size="41">{\an1}fame, loved, hated,
hated, hated, loved, loved,</font>

1654
01:29:47,632 --> 01:29:48,758
<font size="41">{\an1}fame, under the rock.</font>

1655
01:29:48,841 --> 01:29:51,385
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, that's just how
my whole life has been</font>

1656
01:29:51,886 --> 01:29:53,054
<font size="41">{\an1}to this day.</font>

1657
01:29:53,137 --> 01:29:56,808
<font size="41">{\an1}You know, I'm either super
public, or I'm in my sweatpants,</font>

1658
01:29:56,891 --> 01:29:59,227
<font size="41">{\an1}writing, creating, generating,</font>

1659
01:29:59,309 --> 01:30:02,146
<font size="41">{\an1}stepping out, public,
and then hiding again.</font>

1660
01:30:02,230 --> 01:30:04,357
<font size="41">{\an1}I mean, that's just how it is.</font>

1661
01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:05,817
<font size="41">{\an1}That's how I survive it.</font>

1662
01:30:05,900 --> 01:30:07,276
<font size="41">{\an1}(WATER BUBBLING)</font>

1663
01:30:42,186 --> 01:30:43,312
<font size="41">{\an1}MALE VOICE: Work it.</font>

1664
01:30:51,654 --> 01:30:52,612
<font size="41">{\an1}Yeah.</font>

1665
01:30:52,697 --> 01:30:54,240
<font size="41">{\an1}All right, I'm gonna see
what I can get done.</font>

1666
01:30:54,323 --> 01:30:56,325
<font size="41">{\an1}I got a bunch of stuff here,
but--</font>

1667
01:30:56,409 --> 01:30:58,161
<font size="41">{\an1}No, and the thing is, is like...</font>

1668
01:30:58,870 --> 01:31:00,746
<font size="41">{\an1}she could also sign them</font>

1669
01:31:00,830 --> 01:31:02,832
<font size="41">{\an1}tomorrow, like,
when you and I have</font>

1670
01:31:02,915 --> 01:31:05,376
<font size="41">{\an1}our call with her
at 3:00, you know what I mean?</font>

1671
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:07,753
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
Hello, it smells good in here.</font>

1672
01:31:08,212 --> 01:31:09,213
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay.</font>

1673
01:31:09,964 --> 01:31:10,923
<font size="41">{\an1}ONYX: Hi, Mommy.</font>

1674
01:31:11,007 --> 01:31:12,383
<font size="41">{\an1}-Hi, gorgeous.
-What are you doing?</font>

1675
01:31:12,466 --> 01:31:15,928
<font size="41">{\an1}I'm singing the song
about you and Winter and Ever.</font>

1676
01:31:16,012 --> 01:31:18,055
<font size="41">{\an1}Would you like to sit on a chair
next to me,</font>

1677
01:31:18,139 --> 01:31:19,599
<font size="41">{\an1}or would you like me
to hold you?</font>

1678
01:31:19,682 --> 01:31:22,393
<font size="41">{\an1}-I want you to hold me!
-(TOY PIANO PLAYING)</font>

1679
01:31:25,103 --> 01:31:26,105
<font size="41">{\an1}Ready?</font>

1680
01:31:26,856 --> 01:31:28,316
<font size="41">{\an1}Ready, ready, ready, ready.</font>

1681
01:31:28,398 --> 01:31:29,942
<font size="41">{\an1}(INDISTINCT CHATTER)</font>

1682
01:31:30,026 --> 01:31:31,360
<font size="41">{\an1}Why do we need that?</font>

1683
01:31:31,443 --> 01:31:32,737
<font size="41">{\an1}'Cause if I go... (POPS)</font>

1684
01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:35,865
<font size="41">{\an1}...and some spit goes on there,
it sounds like "poof",</font>

1685
01:31:35,948 --> 01:31:37,950
<font size="41">{\an1}as opposed to... (POPS)</font>

1686
01:31:40,786 --> 01:31:42,621
<font size="41">{\an1}-WOMAN: Here we go.
-Okay.</font>

1687
01:31:42,705 --> 01:31:44,457
<font size="41">{\an1}JIMMY FALLON: Performing
the song "Ablaze"</font>

1688
01:31:44,540 --> 01:31:46,334
<font size="41">{\an1}from her first album
in eight years,</font>

1689
01:31:46,416 --> 01:31:49,003
<font size="41">{\an1}here's the one and only
Alanis Morissette.</font>

1690
01:31:50,671 --> 01:31:52,924
<font size="41">{\an1}The music's playing, Mommy.</font>

1691
01:31:53,007 --> 01:31:54,634
<font size="41">{\an1}It is. It's an intro.</font>

1692
01:31:54,717 --> 01:31:55,927
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay, then sing it.</font>

1693
01:31:56,010 --> 01:31:57,887
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ First thing
that you'll notice ♪</font>

1694
01:31:57,969 --> 01:32:01,098
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Is some separation
from each other ♪</font>

1695
01:32:01,182 --> 01:32:02,642
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Yes, it's a lie ♪</font>

1696
01:32:02,725 --> 01:32:06,437
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ We've been believing
since time immemorial ♪</font>

1697
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,482
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ There was an apple
There was a snake ♪</font>

1698
01:32:09,565 --> 01:32:11,567
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ There was division ♪</font>

1699
01:32:11,651 --> 01:32:12,777
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ There was a split ♪</font>

1700
01:32:12,860 --> 01:32:16,614
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ There was a conflict
in the fabric of life ♪</font>

1701
01:32:16,697 --> 01:32:18,782
<font size="41">{\an1}Sorry, but that's not
the same time as...</font>

1702
01:32:18,866 --> 01:32:19,951
<font size="41">{\an1}Okay, sorry.</font>

1703
01:32:20,034 --> 01:32:21,744
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To my boy ♪</font>

1704
01:32:21,827 --> 01:32:23,246
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("ABLAZE"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

1705
01:32:23,329 --> 01:32:25,039
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ All that energy, so vital ♪</font>

1706
01:32:25,121 --> 01:32:27,375
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Love your hues ♪</font>

1707
01:32:27,458 --> 01:32:30,585
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And your blues
in equal measure ♪</font>

1708
01:32:30,670 --> 01:32:35,549
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Your comings
And your goings-away ♪</font>

1709
01:32:35,633 --> 01:32:42,431
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ My mission is to keep
the light in your eyes ablaze ♪</font>

1710
01:32:42,514 --> 01:32:44,267
<font size="41">{\an1}-Hi, Mom.
-Hi, baby.</font>

1711
01:32:44,350 --> 01:32:46,434
<font size="41">{\an1}I really like that, and that.</font>

1712
01:32:46,519 --> 01:32:48,145
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ To my girl ♪</font>

1713
01:32:49,063 --> 01:32:51,523
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ All your innocence and fire ♪</font>

1714
01:32:51,607 --> 01:32:53,943
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ When you reach out ♪</font>

1715
01:32:54,026 --> 01:32:57,154
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I am here hell or high water ♪</font>

1716
01:32:57,237 --> 01:33:00,449
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ This nest is never
going away ♪</font>

1717
01:33:00,532 --> 01:33:02,451
<font size="41">{\an1}-Did you say "nest"?
-Nest.</font>

1718
01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:03,661
<font size="41">{\an1}My mission is to keep...</font>

1719
01:33:03,744 --> 01:33:06,289
<font size="41">{\an1}-Well, why did you say "nest"?
-'Cause it's a nest.</font>

1720
01:33:06,371 --> 01:33:07,540
<font size="41">{\an1}Oh.</font>

1721
01:33:07,623 --> 01:33:09,625
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Ablaze ♪</font>

1722
01:33:11,669 --> 01:33:14,088
<font size="41">{\an1}So, are you gonna sing soon?</font>

1723
01:33:14,171 --> 01:33:16,841
<font size="41">{\an1}-Sure.
-Okay.</font>

1724
01:33:35,401 --> 01:33:36,402
<font size="41">{\an1}Five one way,
five the other way.</font>

1725
01:33:36,485 --> 01:33:37,903
<font size="41">{\an1}-Five one way.
-The whole stack?</font>

1726
01:33:37,987 --> 01:33:39,155
<font size="41">{\an1}And then while she's
doing the stack,</font>

1727
01:33:39,237 --> 01:33:40,698
<font size="41">{\an1}you can make
the next stack...</font>

1728
01:33:41,365 --> 01:33:42,657
<font size="41">{\an1}-Tidy.
-Homogenous.</font>

1729
01:33:42,742 --> 01:33:44,577
<font size="41">{\an1}-Facing the same way.
-Okay.</font>

1730
01:33:45,619 --> 01:33:46,787
<font size="41">{\an1}There's one.</font>

1731
01:33:48,706 --> 01:33:50,958
<font size="41">{\an1}MAN: This is huge to have...</font>

1732
01:33:51,041 --> 01:33:52,585
<font size="41">{\an1}-Huge.
-MAN: Manpower.</font>

1733
01:33:54,462 --> 01:33:55,546
<font size="41">{\an1}That one's good.</font>

1734
01:33:55,629 --> 01:33:58,174
<font size="41">{\an1}I love these signatures.
It's like, every time--</font>

1735
01:33:58,257 --> 01:33:59,508
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
You're the only one, believe me.</font>

1736
01:33:59,592 --> 01:34:01,469
<font size="41">{\an1}-People are like, "Oh."
-MAN: Yeah.</font>

1737
01:34:01,552 --> 01:34:03,262
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS: I'm like, "What?"</font>

1738
01:34:03,346 --> 01:34:05,014
<font size="41">{\an1}-They're like, "Oh."
-MAN: All right, you want--</font>

1739
01:34:05,097 --> 01:34:06,932
<font size="41">{\an1}Fine, you want a nice,
neat fake-ass one?</font>

1740
01:34:07,016 --> 01:34:08,726
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
You want me to just print it?</font>

1741
01:34:08,809 --> 01:34:09,809
<font size="41">{\an1}MAN: Yeah.</font>

1742
01:34:10,811 --> 01:34:12,563
<font size="41">{\an1}ALANIS:
Strangely satisfying.</font>

1743
01:34:18,318 --> 01:34:19,695
<font size="41">{\an1}When I hear Jagged Little Pill,</font>

1744
01:34:19,779 --> 01:34:21,237
<font size="41">{\an1}whether it's through
the beautiful voices</font>

1745
01:34:21,322 --> 01:34:23,157
<font size="41">{\an1}of the Jagged Little Pill
musical,</font>

1746
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,368
<font size="41">{\an1}or whether it's while
I'm singing it,</font>

1747
01:34:25,451 --> 01:34:27,119
<font size="41">{\an1}or hearing it on the radio...</font>

1748
01:34:28,954 --> 01:34:30,623
<font size="41">{\an1}There's a kindness.</font>

1749
01:34:31,957 --> 01:34:34,335
<font size="41">{\an1}It's like this velvet kindness.</font>

1750
01:34:34,418 --> 01:34:37,088
<font size="41">{\an1}No matter how pissed off
she is...</font>

1751
01:34:37,171 --> 01:34:40,341
<font size="41">{\an1}It's like there's mercy in it.</font>

1752
01:34:40,424 --> 01:34:41,925
<font size="41">{\an1}There's empathy in it.</font>

1753
01:34:42,009 --> 01:34:45,763
<font size="41">{\an1}There's hope,
even when the song is hopeless.</font>

1754
01:34:45,846 --> 01:34:47,639
<font size="41">{\an1}There's a little dreg of...</font>

1755
01:34:49,850 --> 01:34:54,146
<font size="41">{\an1}Of "everything's gonna be okay,
no matter how horrible it gets."</font>

1756
01:34:57,066 --> 01:35:02,237
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ ("HEAD OVER FEET"
BY ALANIS MORISSETTE PLAYS) ♪</font>

1757
01:35:14,875 --> 01:35:17,962
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I couldn't help it ♪</font>

1758
01:35:18,045 --> 01:35:20,130
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's all your fault ♪</font>

1759
01:35:20,214 --> 01:35:23,800
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You've already won me over ♪</font>

1760
01:35:23,884 --> 01:35:25,803
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ In spite of me ♪</font>

1761
01:35:25,886 --> 01:35:29,764
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Don't be alarmed if I fall ♪</font>

1762
01:35:29,849 --> 01:35:31,642
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Head over feet ♪</font>

1763
01:35:31,725 --> 01:35:35,563
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And don't be surprised
if I love you ♪</font>

1764
01:35:35,646 --> 01:35:38,607
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ For all that you are ♪</font>

1765
01:35:38,691 --> 01:35:41,777
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I couldn't help it ♪</font>

1766
01:35:41,861 --> 01:35:44,321
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's all your fault ♪</font>

1767
01:35:45,364 --> 01:35:48,784
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Your love is thick ♪</font>

1768
01:35:48,868 --> 01:35:51,412
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And it swallowed me whole ♪</font>

1769
01:35:51,495 --> 01:35:54,832
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You're so much braver ♪</font>

1770
01:35:54,915 --> 01:35:57,334
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Than I gave you credit for ♪</font>

1771
01:35:57,418 --> 01:36:01,547
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ That's not lip service ♪</font>

1772
01:36:01,630 --> 01:36:05,675
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You've already won me over ♪</font>

1773
01:36:05,759 --> 01:36:07,719
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ In spite of me ♪</font>

1774
01:36:07,803 --> 01:36:11,639
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And don't be alarmed
if I fall ♪</font>

1775
01:36:11,724 --> 01:36:13,517
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Head over feet ♪</font>

1776
01:36:13,601 --> 01:36:17,605
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And don't be surprised
if I love you ♪</font>

1777
01:36:17,688 --> 01:36:20,523
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ For all that you are ♪</font>

1778
01:36:20,608 --> 01:36:23,652
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ I couldn't help it ♪</font>

1779
01:36:23,736 --> 01:36:26,155
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ It's all your fault ♪</font>

1780
01:36:27,281 --> 01:36:30,784
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You are the bearer ♪</font>

1781
01:36:30,868 --> 01:36:33,454
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Of unconditional things ♪</font>

1782
01:36:33,537 --> 01:36:36,832
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ You held your breath ♪</font>

1783
01:36:36,916 --> 01:36:39,043
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ And the door for me ♪</font>

1784
01:36:39,126 --> 01:36:43,088
<font size="41">{\an1}♪ Thanks for your patience ♪</font>



