1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,560 MALE VOICE 1: If he does come at you, then you simply do not have a chance. 4 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,120 MALE VOICE 2: What we are dealing with here 5 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,920 is a perfect engine, an eating machine. 6 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,200 MALE VOICE 3: Monsters like these came to dominate the seas, 7 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,840 some 350 million years ago. 8 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,960 MALE VOICE 4: Never was an animal like that. Never! 9 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,680 The power and the aggressiveness of the thing is beyond belief. 10 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,760 MALE VOICE 5: Ancient Indians prized his teeth for arrowheads. 11 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,800 MALE VOICE 6: Of the man eater that is still at large. 12 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,080 And I know what a shark looks like because I've seen one up close. 13 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,240 MALE VOICE 7: You got a job. We got a panic on our hands. 14 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:17,600 (CROWD SCREAMING) 15 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,320 MALE VOICE 8: The shark is always the winner. 16 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:25,480 VALERIE: Pyjamies. 17 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,080 Change of shirt. 18 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,400 And I'm good to go for Fiji. 19 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,320 And I'm going to be wearing a pink wetsuit for the bull sharks, 20 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,160 and I used to in the early days, and then I was asked 21 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 not to wear it anymore because it made me stand out, 22 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,560 and the bull sharks noticed. 23 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:49,440 Well, I thought that was good, but apparently it's not. 24 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,400 I'm looking forward to it because I'll be seeing a lot 25 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,720 of good friends. 26 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,560 I haven't seen them for more than a year. 27 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,000 I usually get out of the water screaming my head off with joy, 28 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,760 jumping around, "I love it. I love it." And I do, I love it. 29 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,480 And maybe... 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,280 maybe I'm a bit funny... Actually, but I do, 31 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,160 I just love going down there. 32 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,040 I love seeing that big bull shark, here. Going, "Ha!" 33 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,840 (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) 34 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,200 MALE TV HOST: Now the spearfishing, were you successful? 35 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,560 VALERIE: Well, I was pretty good at it. 36 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,240 I was about as good as a girl can get. 37 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,440 One day I was down there, 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,560 a shark came along and frightened us out of the water. 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,920 It's quite exciting. 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,440 VALERIE: They don't have hands. 41 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,120 They feel with their nose or in very few cases, 42 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,280 they feel with their teeth. 43 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,720 MALE VOICE: Val has a little bump on the bottom of her chin. 44 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,280 She said it's a shark's tooth. 45 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,280 I can feel it in there. It's very painful. 46 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,840 MALE TV HOST: Valerie, thanks for coming in. 47 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,200 You've been telling us for so many years that sharks are really nice fellows. 48 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Well, I haven't changed my opinion. 49 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,360 FEMALE VOICE: Are you serious when you compare sharks to dogs? 50 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,160 VALERIE: Yes, because it's like any animal. 51 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Once you get to know it and understand it, 52 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,920 you have a different attitude towards it altogether. 53 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,480 And there are all sorts of dogs. 54 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,800 And there are all sorts of sharks. 55 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,560 And the dangerous dogs probably bite more people, and kill more people 56 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,920 than the dangerous sharks in the world. 57 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,320 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 58 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,480 JEAN-MICHEL: We know so very little about what's in the ocean. 59 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,680 And Valerie was one of the pioneers. 60 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,560 Now, of course, her name was connected to sharks, sharks, sharks. 61 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,720 But she was doing many other things. 62 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,080 JEREMIAH: Most of us were afraid of... 63 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,720 Well, not afraid, but we were always cautious and concerned 64 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,320 when we saw a bunch of sharks around. 65 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,360 With the exception of Valerie, 66 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,640 who thought that was going to be a good time. 67 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,720 People were making a lot of bold claims about sharks and so on, 68 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,280 and how dangerous they were. 69 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,640 Valerie was the only one that I had met... (CHUCKLES) 70 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,040 ...at that stage that felt 71 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,920 they weren't that dangerous, and you could actually 72 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,840 play around with them. 73 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,440 Long before anybody else. 74 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,920 VALERIE: The first time I ever could see underwater, 75 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,440 I was 14 years old... 76 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,680 and I saw a piece of kelp. 77 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,640 I thought it was amazing. 78 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,720 It was going to and fro and to and fro. 79 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,160 And I knew I had to see more. 80 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,680 I would slide into the water... 81 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,880 from the world we all know... 82 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,840 into another world. 83 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,240 A different world, alien. 84 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,960 I was not part of that world, I was just a visitor. 85 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,800 And I think that was the start. 86 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,120 My father had stomach ulcers, and he found it very easy to eat fish. 87 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,400 And you want to please your parents and I used to go out and spear him fish. 88 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,440 And I was very good at it. 89 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Back in the '50s, there was so much marine life, 90 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,760 you learnt how to hunt. 91 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:01,920 How to stalk a fish while holding your breath. 92 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,680 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 93 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,640 The first shark I saw... 94 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,160 was a grey nurse. 95 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,560 I was just terrified, expecting to be attacked at any minute. 96 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,320 We got out and we were all right. 97 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,920 I just knew that they were killers. 98 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,160 MALE REPORTER 1: The main holiday hazard in Britain is the weather, 99 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,440 but in Australia, it's sharks. 100 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,520 WENDY: No one wants to be bitten by a monster. 101 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,120 When you think back to the '50s and '60s, the saying was, 102 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,640 "Good shark is a dead shark." 103 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,680 That was it. 104 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 MALE REPORTER 2: Outside the harbor, sharks are caught every day 105 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,960 by big game fishermen. 106 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,360 JEREMIAH: In those days, we didn't have the information that we have today. 107 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Nature was considered a dark, evil, you know, space, 108 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,360 something to do with the dark side. 109 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,080 VALERIE: Spearfishing was nerve-racking, but every single step 110 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,000 of the way was an adventure, a step into the unknown. 111 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,120 And every time you did it, you came out with a little more knowledge. 112 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:35,520 I understood my prey. 113 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,240 I eventually joined a club. It was very exciting. 114 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,400 There were dozens of clubs through Sydney. 115 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Spearfishing was very much a macho man's sport. 116 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,440 When they had the first lady spearfishing championships, 117 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,920 there were seven women. 118 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,560 There was about 700 men. There were just so many men. 119 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:15,480 MALE VOICE: (CHUCKLES) There we go. 120 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,520 WENDY: In the '50s, diving was a completely male culture. 121 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,360 I've talked with Valerie, about what it was like 122 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,080 to be a woman in this male-dominated culture. 123 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Because it was that way, she had to be stronger and sharper, 124 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:41,840 better than everybody, to make it. 125 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,240 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 126 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,400 JEREMIAH: She was quite lethal. 127 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:50,240 She would've been the lady slayer back then. 128 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,160 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 129 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:58,960 JEREMIAH: And interestingly, 130 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,560 most of the great environmentalists and conservationists, 131 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,960 they all started with hunting. 132 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Because they were the only ones who were out, involved in these things. 133 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,680 MALE REPORTER 3: Valerie is responsible for the boy's safety. 134 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,400 She will demonstrate how to deal with dangerous sharks. 135 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,720 This dangerous shark is the largest ever killed 136 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,600 by a lady skin diver anywhere in the world. 137 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,200 VALERIE: I've only ever killed one shark. 138 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,160 I wish I hadn't. 139 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,080 But at the time, there was no one to say, "This is a bad thing." 140 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Only say, "Oh, very good." 141 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,200 Killed a lot of fish. 142 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,720 The attitude was there was so much life in the ocean. 143 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,120 You could take what you wanted, and never make a difference. 144 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,080 MALE REPORTER: A girl like Valerie Heighes knows that once she gets ready to dive, 145 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,880 she must also be ready to defend herself from the dangers 146 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,120 that are always there below the surface. 147 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,080 VALERIE: I think all mothers wanted their daughters 148 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,920 to get married and have children. 149 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,080 It's not that I didn't want children. I wanted to do other things. 150 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,400 I wanted to have my own special life. 151 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,560 -(MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) -(CHILDREN CHUCKLING) 152 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,840 VALERIE: Well, when I was 12, I was diagnosed with polio, 153 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,280 infantile paralysis. 154 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,840 (BABY CRYING) 155 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,720 VALERIE: They told me until I could walk I could not go home. 156 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,480 I hated it in there. 157 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,680 They started sending me books. 158 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,440 They sent me the great classics, 159 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,200 Lorna Doone, Treasure Island, Tom Sawyer, and Huckleberry Finn. 160 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:49,440 I just loved those books, I read them over and over. 161 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:55,840 I read Huckleberry Finn so many times. It took me on a mental adventure. 162 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,560 I'd made up my mind I was going home. 163 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,360 I struggled and struggled every day. 164 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,760 And in nine weeks... 165 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,520 I walked out and my mother came and got me. 166 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,480 They said I couldn't and I did it. 167 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:26,160 (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) 168 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,240 VALERIE: I'm grateful that it didn't paralyze me for life. 169 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:42,920 I'd read those books and it made me see of all the possibilities in the planet. 170 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,520 I didn't know how to achieve any of them, but I knew they existed. 171 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,120 MALE REPORTER 4: But no one's anxious to be slaving over a hot stove, 172 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,280 least of all mermaid Valerie Heighes. 173 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,720 Anyone who's interested in having their picture taken by a mermaid, 174 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,320 just line up, please. 175 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,320 When someone like Valerie comes down here with a camera, 176 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,800 you can bet all the best-looking fellows will offer to pose for her. 177 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,720 VALERIE: The club used to have these trips, you know. 178 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,560 Ron was there, I noticed him because I used to see him spearfishing. 179 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,240 He was different from the other guys. 180 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,520 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 181 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,880 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 182 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,000 VALERIE: Ron had won four Australian National titles, 183 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,920 and the World Title at this stage. 184 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,720 He was the best. 185 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,200 I was looking for adventure in the underwater world, 186 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,840 and I used to take my 16-millimeter camera out with the team of spearfishermen 187 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,720 that I was with in those days. Just experimenting. 188 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,640 VALERIE: I used to be there, and he would ask me if I'd model for him. 189 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,320 And I was extremely flattered. Of course I'd model for him! 190 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,160 RON: I clearly remember the first time that I filmed Valerie underwater. 191 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,080 I was very interested in Valerie because she was very attractive. 192 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,240 VALERIE: I had fun. Just flirting away, I guess. 193 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,600 I made my own bikinis. 194 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,320 And then one day, Ron said, "I'm going to buy you a bathing costume." 195 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,680 It was yellow. 196 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,880 RON: She was interested in the underwater world like I was. 197 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,760 She was aggressive, she wasn't one of these wimpish women. 198 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,400 VALERIE: And then we decided to get married. 199 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,440 I was the woman spearfishing champion, 200 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Ron was the world spearfishing champion. 201 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,320 We were at the top of the trade. 202 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Ron and I discovered spearing a fish often attracted sharks. 203 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,320 RODNEY: During that period of time, divers were dragging 204 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,680 four or five fish through the water. 205 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,440 And of course we know now that if you want to attract sharks 206 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,040 you get fish blood, and you drag it through the water, 207 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,880 and so we were just bringing bait basically for a shark. 208 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,240 VALERIE: We heard about Rodney's shark attack with horror. 209 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,640 He was a friend! 210 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,320 RODNEY: There was 485 stitches in my chest, 211 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,480 and 94 in my hand here, 212 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,520 and every tendon except this one was broken. 213 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,280 They had to stitch them back again. 214 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,960 MALE REPORTER: Do you hope to continue skin diving one day? 215 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Oh, I'll get in the water somewhere, sometime, but I don't know. 216 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,320 VALERIE: We knew it was a great white shark that bit him. 217 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,480 We were excited about the possibility of getting footage of this beast. 218 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Rodney had the idea of doing a great white shark trip. 219 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:12,920 Of course I wanted to go at the time, but I couldn't go. 220 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,400 The owner and captain did not want a woman on board. 221 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,560 RON: Rodney arranged an expedition with Alf Dean. 222 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Alf Dean held the world record for big game fishing 223 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,560 for great white sharks. 224 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,240 DOUGLAS: At the time, other people had photographed other sharks. 225 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,440 But there were no images of great white sharks alive, underwater. 226 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,600 RON: I'd never, ever seen it before on other people's documentaries, 227 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,840 so I could see the potential. 228 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,560 RODNEY: After a couple of days we pulled up at Memory Cove and Alf said, 229 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,640 "I've caught and seen quite a few sharks here." 230 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:05,600 So, he started his whale oil drip. 231 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,440 We got up in the morning, and saw great, big sharks. 232 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,960 DOUGLAS: The very first time I saw it, the hair stood up on the back of my neck 233 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,800 because it was such a big shark. 234 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:30,760 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 235 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,080 DOUGLAS: Holy cow! That's a mean-looking shark. 236 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,440 RODNEY: Ron actually sat on the duckboard at the back, filming some footage... 237 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:05,400 and saw submarines with teeth. 238 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,000 RON: I thought this was a very impressive animal. 239 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,000 I thought I had something unique there. 240 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,960 VALERIE: It's like liking a lion, I guess. 241 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,320 It's a special beast. 242 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:58,600 After that, I hate to say it, it was just kill, kill, kill. 243 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,360 RODNEY: On that trip, Alf thought it was his duty 244 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,400 to catch and kill as many sharks as he could, and we ended up on the boat, 245 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,240 five ten-to fourteen-foot great white sharks spread out. 246 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,480 And that was actually the first time I started to realize 247 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,440 we've got these great big, incredible animals, 248 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,600 just killed and lost forever. 249 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,440 VALERIE: I thought it was sad. 250 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Really changed the way I looked at the world and spearfishing. 251 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,160 After that, Ron said, "Actually, killing fish upsets me. 252 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,440 "I'm not doing this anymore." 253 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,360 We put our spears down, and never did another competition again. 254 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,160 We said, "From now on, I'm shooting them with my camera." 255 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,560 SYLVIA: It was a personal revelation that made that transition, 256 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,360 experience that convinced them. 257 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,920 It wasn't somebody telling them, they could see for themselves. 258 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,400 And I admire that. 259 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:02,080 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 260 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,440 VALERIE: We were selling more and more footage for television. 261 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,000 They wouldn't just buy any underwater film... 262 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,280 they wanted dangerous marine animals. Or what they thought were dangerous. 263 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,800 They wanted drama. 264 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,640 And if I could be in the film fluttering around 265 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,440 amongst all these creatures, 266 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,400 that was even better. 267 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Valerie would go down and just pick up anything 268 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,040 and bring it up and play with it and just... It was remarkable. 269 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,760 Here's this beautiful Australian gal doing all these crazy things 270 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,840 that nobody's supposed to be able to do. 271 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,400 VALERIE: Ron often asked me to do very dangerous things. 272 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,840 He used to call me sometimes "Give-it-a-go-Valerie," 273 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,080 whether I was cooking a new food or... 274 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,960 diving with sharks. (CHUCKLES) 275 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,680 I wouldn't say I thought I was a Bond girl. 276 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,000 Everything thing I did was to make money. 277 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,960 Ron was always wanting new camera equipment. 278 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,640 He made all his own housings. 279 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,680 He was a genius. 280 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,120 I'd say the cleverest man I've ever met. 281 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,360 We did whatever we could to make a living 282 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,120 out of what we loved to do. 283 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,840 Do you want me to feed those little tiny fish, 284 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,920 or do you want me to save it up for the big trout? 285 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:16,680 There's not many of those little fish around. 286 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,360 We'll look for the tiny yellow shells in the dendrophilia. 287 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,600 (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) 288 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,320 DOUGLAS: Back in the 1960s, 289 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960 there were a handful of people in the world 290 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,520 that were shooting film underwater. There was Hans Hass in Germany. 291 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,480 There was Stan Waterman in the United States. 292 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,200 There was Cousteau in the South of France. 293 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,280 VALERIE: We saw Jacques Cousteau on television. 294 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,760 He had a lot of money from the French government... 295 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,640 and he had a lot of people to help him. 296 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,440 Whereas, we didn't have any of that. 297 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,280 One thing we did copy a little bit from Captain Jacques, 298 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,480 he always wore a red beret. 299 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:13,520 So, I always wore a bright hair ribbon. 300 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,680 That was my trademark. 301 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,520 JEREMIAH: The Taylors were out there doing their thing. 302 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,920 They were owning and exploring, you know, the marine environment by themselves. 303 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,560 I mean, it was just Ron and Valerie. 304 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,480 This was the golden age of new underwater information. 305 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320 VALERIE: Very little was known around the world about sharks 306 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,480 in those days. 307 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,600 You can watch it from the boat all you want. 308 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,160 You can cut it up and study everything about it. 309 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,480 It was like, "Oh, it will do this." And be a great scientist. 310 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,720 But you still haven't seen it underwater in action. 311 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,520 The first great white shark I saw 312 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,360 was like a freight train coming out of the mist. 313 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:35,880 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 314 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,440 VALERIE: It was magnificent. 315 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,120 After that, I never missed a trip to go out and see sharks. 316 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,400 I found them very exciting 317 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,880 and this little tin boat 318 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,880 is sort of freedom when you get on the ocean. 319 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,240 The whole world is yours. 320 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,320 We were both always thinking of ways to find an area where there's good sharks. 321 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,320 Marion Reef is in the middle of the Coral Sea. 322 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,000 A fisherman knew about it. 323 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,240 And he said, "There's a lot of sharks out there." 324 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,160 So we baited up and we realized this was a good spot to film. 325 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,640 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 326 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,680 VALERIE: So we got to know them better than most other animals. 327 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Next year we went back, 328 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,160 and before we even dropped anchor, 329 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920 the sharks came up to our tinny. 330 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,800 They knew the sound of our boat. 331 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,160 They knew there'd be food, and we realized a shark can learn. 332 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,800 And you can teach one a very simple trick very quickly if you want to. 333 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,880 I knew what would make a good image, I was a photographer. 334 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,200 There was a nice pink coral and I knew where the sun was going to set. 335 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,200 I started waving a bit of food around in front of the coral 336 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,560 and a whitetip came in straight away, and I bopped him on the nose, 337 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,760 and wouldn't give it to him. 338 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,640 Eventually, he came over to the pink coral and I gave him the food. 339 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,960 I did that twice and he knew if he swam over to the pink coral, 340 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,800 in a certain direction, he'd get a piece of food, just a small piece of fish. 341 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,880 And it worked. It worked. 342 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000 The shot was exactly what I had planned. 343 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,120 They learn. Faster than you can teach a dog. 344 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,680 JEAN-MICHEL: (CHUCKLES) She had the courage to face up to a species 345 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,080 which we didn't know very much about in those days, connecting with nature, 346 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,040 and she was able to share her experience, 347 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,600 and adventures with the public. 348 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,200 She helped everybody, including us, 349 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,400 because she would show us what she was doing, 350 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,120 when historically we were staying away from them. 351 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Well, she didn't. 352 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,480 She was the one getting close to it, 353 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,800 and she would follow it and she was fascinated 354 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,480 to learn not just about the way it looks, but the behavior of that fish. 355 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,680 VALERIE: And then we got our very big chance. 356 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,600 Blue Water, White Death was a film, 357 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,320 was dreamt up by Peter Gimbel, an American. 358 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,840 And he had a fascination with sharks. 359 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,640 And he wanted to make a feature film. 360 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Peter had seen two of Ron's documentaries 361 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920 and he knew we could work with sharks. 362 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,720 We're looking for the animal that I think is considered to be 363 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,520 the most dangerous predator still living in the world. 364 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,000 VALERIE: Peter Gimbel had us along to guarantee someone there 365 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280 who knew how to handle these beasts. 366 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,440 And he gave us, Ron and I, the adventure of our lives. 367 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,000 We set off in search out of South Africa... 368 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,720 and we followed the whaling fleet 369 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,240 because they told us that huge great white sharks came in 370 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,160 to feed on the harpooned whales. 371 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,080 STAN: How far ahead of us are the other ships now? 372 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,240 Oh, now about... 373 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:46,000 As an underwater shooter, I just saw in it a wonderful adventure. 374 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560 A search taking us to the Indian Ocean, 375 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,640 searching for the great white shark. 376 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,920 I think that Peter, and Ron, and myself, and Valerie gradually found our courses 377 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,120 narrowing down onto sharks. 378 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560 This charisma that they have. 379 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,560 JAYNE: Blue Water, White Death was probably the first 380 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,240 of its type ever made. 381 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:16,880 And to have a female in there, 382 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,800 and a pretty blonde female in it with all those males. 383 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,880 Well, you're gonna use the far cylinder first. 384 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,200 We turn this one off and this one on, 385 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,240 -so I... -Yeah. 386 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,280 JAYNE: She had to earn her way on that boat. 387 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,360 I've got both. 388 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,400 -Which camera's going, Ron? -This one here. 389 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,240 MALE VOICE: There's a shark right under the bow! 390 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,320 RON: Hold it, there, there's the other one. 391 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:41,520 There's another one! There's another one. There are four down here now. 392 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,920 Four sharks. Now I've lost the other. 393 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,840 -MALE VOICE: There you go. -It's like trying to count chickens. 394 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,320 GIMBEL: With this amount of food in the water, we expect the great white... 395 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,360 but he doesn't come. 396 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,000 VALERIE: But other sharks came up from the great depths. 397 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,760 We never saw the bottom, there was no land. 398 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:10,000 We'd never encountered oceanic whitetips before. 399 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,720 The species of shark responsible for more human deaths 400 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840 than all the other sharks in the world put together. 401 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,680 STAN: The idea of getting into the water, outside of the cage 402 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,480 in the middle of all of those sharks and everything was pretty mind-blowing, 403 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480 but we thought we might get away with it. 404 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,400 VALERIE: When it was decided that we would leave the cage, I thought, 405 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,240 "Yeah, we'll die. Now we die." 406 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,720 Never for a second did I think of not going. 407 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,200 Carcharhinus longimanus, he's the one 408 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,640 that will take 200 people in the water after a ship sinks. They come in packs. 409 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:46,320 We had noticed that before they bit the whale, 410 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,720 even though it was dead, 411 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,720 the shark would bump it two or three times, then bite it. 412 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,920 And we figured that the shark would bump us before it bit, 413 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,040 and if we bumped them back hard 414 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,880 we could make ourselves a place in the pack. 415 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,920 The cameramen, they all had these giant housings 416 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,840 made out of metal. 417 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,560 I had a stick. 418 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,000 We went into another world. 419 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,520 A world that existed 20 million years ago. 420 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,400 We were accepted as other marine animals come to feed on the whale... 421 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,720 but only after we had made a place for ourselves with the pack. 422 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,480 It seemed, to some... 423 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,040 just plain foolhardy, what they were doing. 424 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:17,600 But what they did in the end was to provide the evidence 425 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,080 that if we mind our business, they mind theirs. 426 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,320 It's mutual respect. 427 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,080 You wouldn't believe! You couldn't believe! 428 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,240 It was fantastic! 429 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,400 Everything happened! 430 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,440 They hit the whale and blood went everywhere, 431 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,440 and Stan and Peter were miles away, they were just surrounded by sharks, 432 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480 and look, there must've been a dozen sharks, 433 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,480 charging in on them all at once, and then 434 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,480 as Peter said, he just kept his finger on the button and spun in circles, 435 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,600 that's all he could do. 436 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,760 Well, certainly they were exhilarated when they came up from those dives 437 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,040 because they didn't know that they could survive it. 438 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,200 In those days, people didn't dive with sharks. 439 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,720 But, when you look at those images... 440 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,320 a hundred huge oceanic whitetip sharks, 441 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,280 that can't happen today. 442 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,320 There aren't enough sharks. 443 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,920 And those images, I think, represent a historical record 444 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,600 of what there was at one time, and that's incredibly valuable. 445 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,920 VALERIE: We were still looking for the great white shark. 446 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,280 PETER: I'm sorry and I won't... I'm not going to accept these predictions. 447 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,320 I still think we can attract a great white shark to this rig. 448 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,600 VALERIE: Ron and I tried to tell him where to go? 449 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,880 We knew we were in the wrong place. 450 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,840 Hello, darling. Hello, sweetie. Come on. 451 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,320 Eventually, Peter did listen. 452 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,480 We all went to South Australia. 453 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,600 MALE VOICE 1: Here he comes in now! There it is! The great white! 454 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,560 -(MALE VOICE CHUCKLING) -(PETER CHEERING) 455 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,200 -MALE VOICE 2: Oh, he's gotta be 12. -PETER: Oh, yeah. 456 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,080 (CROWD CHEERING, EXCLAIMING) 457 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,840 PETER: That is a great white! 458 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160 STAN: The public loves, of course, danger. 459 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,840 Yeah, I said you'd get it. I knew you'd get it. 460 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,160 STAN: Add to that a beautiful woman. 461 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,680 You have a successful documentary in the makeup of it. 462 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,880 MALE VOICE 1: Tear it up! Hey! Hey! 463 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,000 VALERIE: I really didn't realize what a big film it was going to be. 464 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,880 MALE VOICE 2: Here he comes now, right up! 465 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,720 I bet Gimbel's elated with joy in there! 466 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,600 MALE VOICE: Right up towards the cage! 467 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,040 CARL: There was a genius in the making of the movie. 468 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:14,240 Valerie set the standard by being the first glamourous female 469 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,360 to go out and have these dangerous adventures, 470 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,800 and I was hooked. 471 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,720 Get back in, Ron! Silly fool. 472 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,320 I don't know what he's doing out of the cage. 473 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,080 -There, look at him! -MALE VOICE: Where is he? Where is he? 474 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,200 VALERIE: Sitting on top of the cage. 475 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,520 JAYNE: I'm from a little village in Wales, and our local policeman, 476 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,440 he had posters of her up on his wall as a child. (CHUCKLES) 477 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,160 It's worldwide! She was really, really out there. 478 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,480 MALE VOICE: Get in, Valerie. Get your hands inside that cage. 479 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,520 Valerie in Blue Water, White Death, she was a revelation to me. 480 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,120 She was strong. 481 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,320 VALERIE: There were no divers anywhere who hadn't seen Blue Water, White Death. 482 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:19,240 And among them was a diver called Peter Benchley. 483 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,040 WENDY: Valerie and Ron were definitely Peter's idols. 484 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,840 He was aware of the excitement of sharks. 485 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,000 Peter had an idea for a novel about a fish, 486 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,080 and I said, "Peter, I just don't think that's gonna work." 487 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,440 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 488 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,240 (FEMALE VOICE SCREAMS) 489 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,000 RON: Universal Pictures got us a book from Peter Benchley called Jaws. 490 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,560 VALERIE: They sent us the galley proofs and a letter saying, 491 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,800 "Do you think this story would make a good feature film?" 492 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,480 We both read it and Ron wrote back and said, "Yes." 493 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,360 (SCREAMS) 494 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,600 Please help me! Help! 495 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:46,360 Now this is not a boat accident, and it wasn't Jack the Ripper. 496 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,760 (SIGHS) It was a shark. 497 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,480 VALERIE: Jaws was our first big Hollywood deal. 498 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,480 Ron said, "I've got to do a good job here, it could be important." 499 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:08,440 They had already decided that Steven Spielberg 500 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,320 was going to be the director. 501 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:15,120 He said, "Get the live white shark footage first." 502 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,080 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 503 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520 VALERIE: We had done this sort of thing so often, 504 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,960 going out and trying to get a performance out of a shark. 505 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,480 I was pretty proud to get a call asking me if I could organize a major expedition. 506 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,760 And at that time quite young and I was pretty excited. 507 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:06,640 Peter postulated in Jaws that the shark was a big one, a 16-footer. 508 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:11,760 And, of course, Spielberg decided to make it into a 25-foot shark. 509 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,720 And this caused a lot of toing and froing between Universal and Ron, 510 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,320 backwards and forwards. 511 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,960 Steven Spielberg was very young. 512 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,880 It was his second major film. He looked, to me, like a teenager. 513 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,080 RON: I said, "Steven, there is a problem here. 514 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,400 "Our white sharks are only about 13-feet long." 515 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,880 He said, "No problem. We'll send down a half-size man and half-size cages." 516 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,080 VALERIE: Everything we filmed was half-size 517 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:02,680 to make our sharks look bigger. 518 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,360 RODNEY: Skippy was my abalone dive boat. 519 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,160 We used my little boat as the stand-in for the boat in the Jaws movie. 520 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,560 You're gonna need a bigger boat. 521 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,320 VALERIE: They sent out this little man called Carl Rizzo. 522 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,200 He was a half-sized man, perfectly formed. 523 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,200 RODNEY: Who used to actually be a stand-in for children 524 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,360 on horseback riding and stuff. 525 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,560 The little guy comes up to me, and he says to me, 526 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,200 "When they pump oxygen into you, 527 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,880 "do you have to suck it in or is it pushed in?" 528 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,760 Which, I knew straight away, he had no idea how to dive. 529 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,520 VALERIE: He was allergic to the sun, he was allergic to salt water, 530 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,080 and he was very allergic to sharks. 531 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,000 And I remember when he saw his first great white, 532 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,200 he was very nervous. 533 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,000 He looked at this big thing swimming out behind the boat, 534 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,720 and he said, "I should've asked for more money." 535 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,160 SHAW: If I can get him close enough to this cage, 536 00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:34,000 -I think I can get him in the mouth... -That shark will rip that cage to pieces! 537 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,680 You got any better suggestions? 538 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,640 RODNEY: I'm in the small half-size boat looking after him, 539 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,360 and I wound him down in the winch. 540 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:56,200 When Carl saw those great white sharks swimming around, he was terrified. 541 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,680 The director yelled out, "Quick, pull up Carl. 542 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,040 He's drowning, he's drowning!" 543 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,480 So, I wound him to the top, and I was saying, 544 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,120 "What's the matter? What's the matter?" 545 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,400 And he said, "My mask. My mask, it was filling up with water." 546 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,240 VALERIE: It was his reluctance that saved his life. 547 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,080 RODNEY: I was about ten meters down, filming up. 548 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,680 There's a shark there and I'm thinking, "Why isn't Carl getting in the cage?" 549 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,440 VALERIE: Rodney was about to pick him up and pop him in. 550 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,360 And the shark came in, and it bumped into the cage, 551 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,160 and got its head stuck in the bridle. 552 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,640 MARTIN: Pull him up. Pull it! 553 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,560 VALERIE: And I picked up the 16-millimeter camera, 554 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,800 and I shot it on film. 555 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,960 When we were shooting the Australian sequences 556 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,720 of the great white sharks. 557 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,520 One of the great white sharks jumped into the cage boat. 558 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,200 There was a horrible cracking sound, the bit of the decking 559 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,560 where the winch was attached to the boat broke off. 560 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,760 MALE VOICE: It's getting away! 561 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,600 VALERIE: I saw Rodney pull Carl back. 562 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:49,240 The shark grabbed between its jaws, which can close and squeeze 563 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,200 at 21 tons per square inch, grabbed and twisted the cage, 564 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,760 and then sounded with the cage. 565 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,840 RODNEY: And everything broke off and came tumbling down past me. 566 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,920 VALERIE: The shark got out of it and swam away. 567 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,240 We had what we call a good performer. 568 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,960 It wasn't in the script... 569 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,240 but they put it in because it was good. 570 00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:28,480 Well, how'd you get sharks to do that? 571 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,000 How did they get a shark to do all those things on cue? 572 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,840 VALERIE: Well, we better not tell her the secret. 573 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,720 Well you have to... You put them in training 574 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,880 -at least three weeks before the film. -VALERIE: Yes, training. 575 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,360 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING, APPLAUDING) 576 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,760 MALE VOICE: The 1975 release of Jaws is considered 577 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,360 the first Hollywood blockbuster. 578 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,120 FEMALE VOICE: Have you seen Jaws? 579 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,840 Who hasn't seen Jaws by now? 580 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,200 Tale of a murderous white shark on the loose. 581 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:58,440 RODNEY: We just absolutely had no idea 582 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,640 that people would be queuing up for miles to see it. 583 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,440 FEMALE VOICE: The line is about 12 people 584 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,520 -abreast around the block. -MALE VOICE: Yeah. 585 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,400 -Wonderful. Just wonderful. -FEMALE VOICE: Yeah. 586 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,040 Ron and Valerie Taylor! Yeah! 587 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,480 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 588 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,120 VALERIE: It was very well done. 589 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,320 And we never expected this to happen, the reaction. 590 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,520 RODNEY: We thought it would just be a third-rate Hollywood B-grade movie 591 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,400 that hardly anybody would ever see. 592 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,440 MALE REPORTER 5: It has already made more money than any motion picture in history. 593 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,360 And, of course, I jumped out of my seat just like everyone else, 594 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,600 'cause the whole theater explodes with terror. 595 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,960 MALE REPORTER 5: And some people are now seeing phantom sharks 596 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,040 every time they go near the water. 597 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,880 People always come up to us and ask us on the tower, 598 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,200 -"Is that Jaws?" Or whatever. -I'm too young to die. 599 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,760 CARL: I can't tell you how many people said, 600 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,920 "You go diving in the ocean? It's full of sharks!" 601 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:01,320 (CROWD CLAMORS) 602 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,480 When I saw Jaws, I was very devastated because I said, 603 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,600 "Nobody's gonna want to go in the ocean." 604 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,920 VALERIE: Jaws is a fictitious story. 605 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,760 And it not only astounded Ron and I, but it astounded Universal, 606 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,480 and Richard Zanuck, and David Brown. 607 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,200 But the public believed it. 608 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:32,080 Shark! 609 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,920 VALERIE: We were amazed. 610 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,920 You don't walk around New York worrying about King Kong. 611 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,680 It must be an instinctive subconscious fear of being eaten alive. 612 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,840 (SCREAMS) 613 00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:52,480 Smile, you son of a... 614 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,720 Ha! (LAUGHS) 615 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,800 VALERIE: But Jaws did... It did set things back. 616 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,320 The thing that I regret is that people went out and killed sharks everywhere. 617 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,120 We became very upset by this. 618 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,720 MALE VOICE: Wow! What a ripper! Million-dollar film! 619 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,600 Ho! Ho! Ho! 620 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,480 PETER: Valerie and Ron Taylor, the great Australian cinematographers 621 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,200 and divers, called me and said, 622 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,640 "People are going out on these slaughter trips 623 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,520 "to prove some sort of macho nonsense about themselves. 624 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:55,880 "And sharks are being killed left and right, and we are worried 625 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,360 "that there may be actually an endangerment of some of the species." 626 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,480 VALERIE: Peter Benchley said he'd have never written the book 627 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:08,760 if he had known what the aftermath would have been. 628 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,920 HOST: People who saw the movie Jaws are afraid of sharks. 629 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,560 Have we reason to be afraid of them? 630 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,160 You should treat them with caution, 631 00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:19,720 but you don't go around being afraid of motor cars. 632 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:25,560 Universal took Ron and I to America, and we toured the States, 633 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,640 doing every talk show, telling people 634 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,520 that sharks were not like the shark in Jaws. 635 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,560 RON: But there's an interesting point that not all sharks are dangerous. 636 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,360 You say that sharks are not dangerous, and yet both of you took part 637 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,760 in two movies that portray sharks as being very dangerous. 638 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,560 How do you justify something like that? 639 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,120 We have been criticized for promoting sharks 640 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:50,840 as being man-eaters and dangerous. 641 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,120 But Jaws is actually a fictional film, but it's such a realistic film 642 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,920 that people tend to believe sharks are dangerous. 643 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,360 I don't think that people should stay off the beaches 644 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,720 because they're afraid of being attacked by a shark. 645 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,280 They're much more likely to fall over and break a leg on the way to the beach 646 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,520 than they are of being attacked once they're in the water. 647 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,400 Ron, Valerie Taylor, thank you very much. We'll be right back after this message. 648 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,320 Take the whole jaw out, teeth fall out, you put 'em on a gold chain 649 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,760 and then go to the movie and see Jaws, everybody thinks you're the best. 650 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,480 VALERIE: I feel if there's a shark in the area 651 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,760 and the swimmer stays relatively calm, 652 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,960 there's a very good chance the shark will look at him, say, 653 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,720 "Well, I don't want that," and go away. 654 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,200 When they start panicking, 655 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,000 there's a very good chance they'll get bitten. 656 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,800 HOST: Once a shark bites, what does it do to the rest of you? 657 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,880 Most sharks just let go. They test with their teeth. 658 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,040 FEMALE VOICE: We have the fresh teeth that have been pulled out 659 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,000 of a shark recently. 660 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,880 MALE VOICE 1: We ran out of shark's teeth, out of shark's jaws. 661 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,160 MALE VOICE 2: It's just a killing machine. 662 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,120 It's more dangerous to have a backyard pool. Did you know that? 663 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,680 MALE VOICE: Just wish we had more of it to sell. 664 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,760 FEMALE VOICE: I find them very frightening, as a matter of fact. 665 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,520 They didn't listen to me. Frankly, they didn't care. 666 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,200 The killing still went on. 667 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,040 Yes, what, what? Oh, well, that's it, isn't it? 668 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,000 What about you? What are you up to? 669 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,640 Jaws gave all sharks a bad name. 670 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,720 You know, there are over 400 species of shark in the ocean. 671 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,760 -Come on. -Maybe five or six 672 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,440 are potentially dangerous. 673 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,040 Most sharks are totally harmless, like the grey nurse shark. 674 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,200 DOUGLAS: Here you have a grey nurse shark that looks like this fierce animal. 675 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,360 Because their teeth are hanging out of their face, 676 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,680 people think, "We've gotta kill that shark." 677 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,840 I mean, they were completely exterminated off the coast of Florida. 678 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,680 And that same thing could've happened in Australia. 679 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,240 They were being slaughtered. 680 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,560 So I started writing letters. 681 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,880 And I pleaded with the politicians. 682 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,960 And I wanted the grey nurse to be totally protected. 683 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,960 As a spearo, I had killed one grey nurse... 684 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,800 and now I wanted to save them. 685 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,760 I needed to save them. 686 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,400 Once I get my teeth stuck into an idea, I don't let go. 687 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,920 There's nothing like having a good piece of underwater film 688 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,560 and saying, "See, it's harmless. It's like a dog." 689 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,440 I kept at them, and at them, and at them. 690 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,240 It worked. It's now legally protected. 691 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,000 You know, it was the first shark in the world to be protected. 692 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,640 JEREMIAH: Valerie led the way. 693 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,080 A huge piece of what conservation has become today 694 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,120 all began, you know, with those little grey nurse sharks. 695 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,880 CARL: Valerie tried to explain and soften the ignorance 696 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,720 to create an audience of... 697 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,120 shark lovers. 698 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,760 There was that occasion where they actually had a shark 699 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,560 that was tangled in a wire and they cut it loose. 700 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,640 VALERIE: When you see a great white struggling for life, you want to save it. 701 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:33,760 CARL: Towing a shark tail first is something you or I might hesitate. 702 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,240 They did not hesitate. 703 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,240 Yes, there was risk, they put that aside. They instinctively helped the animal. 704 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,320 VALERIE: Pretty dangerous thing to do. 705 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,040 But that shark knew exactly what we were doing. 706 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:22,040 CARL: Wow, not a sign of aggression. Remarkable moment. 707 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,080 VALERIE: It swam out to sea... 708 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,960 and was caught by a fisherman five months later. 709 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,880 Conservation? There is no such thing on killer sharks, 710 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,400 because the general public realizes they're killer sharks 711 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,600 and that's all there is to it. 712 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,520 VALERIE: Great white sharks are in big trouble. 713 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,520 They're a very big animal, they live a long time, 714 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,040 and they breed very slowly. 715 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,040 I have a file that must be half an inch thick of letters I've written 716 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,560 to have the great white shark protected before it's too late. 717 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,520 You know what they're doing? They're actually feeding that garbage 718 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,600 to the government. 719 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,920 Telling them that they're an endangered species and all that. 720 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,280 They ought to be in jail. 721 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,760 VALERIE: The only sharks he knows, the only sharks he works with, 722 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,000 and he does it from the safety of the back of his boat I might add, 723 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,240 are sharks that are fighting to survive. 724 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,960 Those sharks he catches are trying to escape. 725 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,400 They want to live, just as you or I would try to escape, 726 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,800 and want to live if someone hooked us in the mouth. 727 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,360 MALE VOICE 1: This is the stuff nightmares are made of. 728 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,640 MALE VOICE 2: Shark. The very word 729 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,400 is enough to scare most people out of their wits. 730 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,440 MALE VOICE 3: Great white sharks have no peer when it comes to terror. 731 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:56,280 VALERIE: Anti-conservationists call sharks "God's mistakes." 732 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,120 It's just a heap of rubbish. 733 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,760 They have been around unchanged for millions of years. 734 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,600 That's not a mistake. 735 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,600 RON: Twenty-four hours a day, they're on the prowl. 736 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,760 VALERIE: I don't really think that a shark swims around saying, 737 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,240 "A-ha! There's a human, I must swim up and eat him." 738 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,520 They don't think like that. 739 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,520 RON: There's gonna be a major problem. 740 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,080 VALERIE: Ron and I decided to prove to the general public 741 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,080 that sharks were not out to get us. 742 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,680 I first got the idea for a suit of mail in 1967 when I saw a commercial diver 743 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,760 protecting his hands with butcher's gloves. 744 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,360 VALERIE: Ron made a decision 745 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,520 that we would try ourselves out as shark bait. 746 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,000 Marine biologist Jeremiah Sullivan 747 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,640 has traveled from America to join the operation. 748 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,560 JEREMIAH: At the time, I was just a young student. 749 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,200 I was studying the sensory systems of sharks as a marine biologist. 750 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,160 The shark suit provided us an opportunity to do things 751 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,120 that have never been done before, to really learn something. 752 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,800 VALERIE: Everything you do in life is a calculated risk. 753 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,040 Even a cup of tea could burn you. 754 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,360 If only he would bite me instead of the fish, 755 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,040 it would be a good test of the suit's protective qualities. 756 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,560 SYLVIA: When I heard about Ron and Valerie's desire to test the theory 757 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,840 that it's really dangerous to go in the water, period, 758 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,240 because there's sharks, period, that they will eat you, period. 759 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,400 And Ron and Valerie wanting to show that, you know, it's not that way. 760 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,040 You can bait yourself. "Well, come and get me." 761 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,000 And the sharks had to be encouraged somehow. 762 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,720 JEREMIAH: We still didn't really know what would happen 763 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,560 with shark bite pressure. 764 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:20,840 I knew what probably would happen, but now, this was the real deal. 765 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,080 VALERIE: Scientific opinion had the crush power 766 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,560 of a shark's jaw as very serious indeed. 767 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,000 Eugenie Clark, the great shark expert, 768 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,440 said I would have the imprints of the mesh on my bones. 769 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,360 The sharks don't have crush power. 770 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,560 This is a misconception. 771 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,400 We knew how they would bite. 772 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,800 They rely on the cutting edge of their teeth. 773 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,440 They try to saw through the metal and nothing happens. 774 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:03,200 They can't get anything in. And we proved it with the mesh suit. 775 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,000 RON: The editors of National Geographic wanted to use the story, 776 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,800 and they sent our story to some American shark experts, 777 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,440 and they rejected it as a hoax. 778 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,720 But then we showed the editors our film. 779 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,720 And the editors realized that the experts were wrong. 780 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,480 The editors gave their referees a kick in the backside. 781 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,280 JEREMIAH: It's been 40 years that they've been manufacturing 782 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,200 these things on a commercial level. 783 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,240 Now, there's a global shark diving industry, about a billion dollars a year, 784 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,320 that, to a certain degree, has been built out of the information 785 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,480 that was gathered by use of the suits that Ron and Val and I 786 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,960 started playing with so long ago. 787 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,200 VALERIE: It used to be brilliant for blue sharks. 788 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,200 Back then, we saw them every day. 789 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,800 They're a nice shark. All the ones that bit me are all dead now. 790 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,840 They were finned. 791 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,960 They're gone, they didn't deserve that. 792 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,120 RON: There's a big market for sharks. 793 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,800 The shark fin is being taken in enormous numbers. 794 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:46,120 And you just can't continually take something unless you replace it. 795 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,040 In the last twenty years, with the increase 796 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,960 of the middle-class in China, 797 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,760 and the increase in shark fin soup consumption... 798 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:08,160 there were 100 million sharks killed every year for twenty years. 799 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:19,440 VALERIE: Sharks are part of a web of life. We've just interfered. 800 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:28,960 It's a terrible thing to kill a beautiful wild animal for its fin. 801 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:34,640 Just like killing an elephant for its tusk, and the tiger for its skin. 802 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,120 You can't expect a fisherman on a little island 803 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,720 to not catch sharks for their fins, 804 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,600 and sell them to the Chinese traders. 805 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,920 It means good money. 806 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,920 I used to climb on to the shark finning boats... 807 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,680 and take photographs. 808 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,280 And one day, there'll be very few sharks left. 809 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,560 And these photographs will be proof of where they went. 810 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:21,320 Shark pics. How many, many, many. Sharks, sharks, sharks. 811 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,560 SYLVIA: We only have ten percent of the sharks left. 812 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,000 And it really is all about knowing, that leads to caring. 813 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,080 Come on. These are magnificent creatures, 814 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,200 every one an individual. 815 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:38,760 VALERIE: Look at them. 816 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,920 SYLVIA: Every one deserving of our respect. 817 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,480 VALERIE: Here's one of my old shots that I really like. 818 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,120 SYLVIA: We just need to think differently. 819 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,200 VALERIE: See how he smiles. Big smile on his face. 820 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:06,360 The only way to halt the complete decimation 821 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,400 is to make enormous marine national parks 822 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,360 where you cannot take a thing. 823 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,000 For a long time, we could guarantee great white sharks 824 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,400 off Port Lincoln, South Australia. 825 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,240 Hello, sharkies! 826 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,360 RON: Right on top. 827 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,680 That's a different one! That's Maria, I'll bet you. 828 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,240 RON: Fins right out in the water. 829 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,160 Let me look. I bet it's Maria. 830 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,160 JAYNE: She'd love the whole world to be protected 831 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,360 if she had half a chance. 832 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:36,520 Sweetness. Come on. 833 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,120 RON: Shark. 834 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,760 JAYNE: But particularly in South Australia, you know, 835 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,240 it has been a huge part of her life. 836 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,440 -RON: Welcome back. -VALERIE: Hurry, hurry! She's coming back. 837 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,760 RON: Hurry. She's coming back. 838 01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:55,320 And great whites, I think Valerie would chain herself to a cage 839 01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:58,360 if she thought somebody was going to kill one unnecessarily. 840 01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,080 Just to show that, "Hey, it's not gonna hurt me." 841 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,680 VALERIE: I wanted to show all sharks have different personalities, 842 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,760 and I've never seen anybody hand-feeding a great white shark 843 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,080 off the back of a boat. 844 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:23,880 There were three sharks around. And one was very sweet. 845 01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:31,120 I wanted to give that nice shark, it was a boy shark, my fish. 846 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:54,480 Mark, my nephew, was so worried about it. He hung on to my shirt, and I thought, 847 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,320 "That's not going to do any good. 848 01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:00,200 "If this thing grabs me, all you'll have left is a handful of shirt." 849 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,240 Don't tell me they don't have personalities. They do. 850 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,640 JAYNE: We need people like Valerie out there to do that. 851 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,360 And she went through government to get that area protected. 852 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,120 Thankfully, it happened. 853 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,920 It was named Ron and Valerie Taylor Marine Park. 854 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,040 I think it's ironic that the same place where they filmed Jaws 855 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,640 is now a place where great white sharks are protected. 856 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,160 VALERIE: When we made our first shark film, Ron said, 857 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,120 "Well, we've done the shark film, now we'll go to something else." 858 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:30,920 We were still doing them. 859 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,640 And we couldn't make a living doing the same thing with a butterfly. 860 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,920 Gee, it'd have to be some butterfly. 861 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,960 Our marriage was a type of adventure. 862 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,880 Ron, he liked me to be in front of his camera. 863 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,600 He liked me to be diving with him. 864 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,800 And it's not just loving someone. You can love a lot of things. 865 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,360 There's all sorts of love. 866 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:17,800 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 867 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,840 VALERIE: He didn't feel very well. 868 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,960 And he went to our doctor. 869 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:31,880 And the doctor said he has acute myeloid leukemia. 870 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,400 He said it's always fatal. 871 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,600 Getting ready for a night dive. 872 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:41,840 I like night diving. 873 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,440 It's very interesting because you see critters at night 874 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,200 that you don't see during the day. 875 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,200 MALE VOICE: All right, guys! Good luck, guys! Learn lots! 876 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:51,840 Bye! 877 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,680 JAYNE: You'd never see Valerie afraid of anything. 878 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,120 She knew he was going to die. 879 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,960 But she didn't face it. 880 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,640 VALERIE: I didn't think Ron would ever die. 881 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:31,000 I'd look at that beautiful man and think that, "He can't die." 882 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,400 He was quite beautiful. 883 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:37,560 I thought. 884 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,480 FEMALE ANNOUNCER: Ron Taylor and his wife Valerie gave away hunting to become famous 885 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,000 for their dedication to marine conservation. 886 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,280 Mr. Taylor died peacefully at a private hospital 887 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,320 near his Sydney home this morning. 888 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,280 VALERIE: I do miss him. I miss him so much. 889 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,720 He was everything. 890 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,480 Mostly, I miss just cuddling up in bed, really. 891 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,240 I go to bed and there's no Ron. 892 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,640 It's a sort of lonely thing. I take a pillow. 893 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,600 I put it on my left side, my pillow. 894 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:57,480 Ron and I did our last dive together in Fiji with the bull sharks. 895 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:01,040 It was special. 896 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,560 -Hello. -FEMALE VOICE: Hi. Bula. 897 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,000 -Bula. -FEMALE VOICE: (CHUCKLES) Bula. 898 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,080 MICHELE: I know, personally, that it's been difficult at times 899 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,320 for her to dive places that she dived with Ron. 900 01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:18,960 I remember her saying that she thought she would never be back there again. 901 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,840 DOUGLAS: There's a lot of memories involved. 902 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,720 Ron and Valerie were instrumental at the beginning of getting 903 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,600 this great conservation success story started. 904 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,280 They became very, very involved with the local community. 905 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:47,640 Due to overfishing, you had a completely dead reef, no fish on it, nothing. 906 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:54,200 And over time, by feeding the sharks, now it's the only place I know of 907 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,400 where you're likely to see as many as 80 or 100 bull sharks. 908 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,480 -VALERIE: Ben! -Hi! 909 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,560 -(SPEAKS FOREIGN LANGUAGE) -VALERIE: Ah! 910 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,000 -How are you? -VALERIE: I'm good. 911 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,720 Welcome home. Welcome home. 912 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:10,960 -Thank you so much. -Thank you. 913 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,000 How was your trip? 914 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,720 -Okay. So, you're going to look after me? -I will. 915 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,840 You're going to find it hard. 916 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,200 -Why is that? -I'm so old. 917 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,400 -No. -And I hurt. 918 01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:24,480 I'm still young. 919 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,640 -Yeah! Good. I like that. -(CHUCKLES) 920 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,280 -And you're very strong, I can tell. -Thank you so much. 921 01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:35,440 I understand that you have a nice pale wetsuit, is that right? 922 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,440 I have a pink wetsuit, but I've... 923 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,360 -Wow. -...hurt my shoulder... 924 01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:41,720 -Mm-hmm. -...and I can't get it on. Anyway. 925 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,640 -BEN: Sad. -I better get myself organized. 926 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,280 VALERIE: Oh, my fingers. Poor old fingers. 927 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,600 Concentrate. Concentrate. 928 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,760 Ouch. Never mind. It's all right. 929 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,920 Every dive has the potential to be a great adventure. 930 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,600 People think you're mad, but you're not. 931 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:33,280 It's something that many people would love to do, but they're too afraid. 932 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,360 I guess there's always the chance a shark could make a mistake, 933 01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:43,960 and that's what it would be. A mistake. 934 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,480 BEN: Good morning, Valerie! 935 01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:57,520 -G'day! (LAUGHS) -Good morning! 936 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,760 -Good morning! -MICHAEL: Good morning, Valerie. 937 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,240 -Oh, Michael! -MICHAEL: Yes. 938 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,040 Oh, darling! 939 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,440 -How are you? -I missed you! 940 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,520 VALERIE: The village that owns the reef, protects sharks. 941 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,520 And they guard it like it's a rare jewel, 942 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,840 which it is. 943 01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:26,680 And it has made the village much richer and given work to the village people. 944 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,080 So we're probably gonna see bull sharks coming from here, 945 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,480 and grab the tuna heads just above us. 946 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,360 This is our favorite part. 947 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,120 -Gently go on there. -(GROANS) 948 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,480 I'm sorry. Sorry, darling. 949 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,680 There we go. We've got you all sealed up here. 950 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:54,840 VALERIE: Yeah. 951 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,840 I am ready, I can't believe it. Oh, no I'm not. 952 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,400 -(MALE VOICE CHUCKLES) -All right. There you go. 953 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:07,720 MALE VOICE: Thanks. 954 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,760 VALERIE: Someone is going to have to get me up. 955 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,240 MALE VOICE: There's three big Fijians here! 956 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:20,960 -VALERIE: I like that! -MALE VOICE: All right! 957 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,560 Good air. Plenty of air. 958 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,400 -I'll jump. -BOATHAND: Over here. 959 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,280 VALERIE: Nature made the perfect animal. 960 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,320 That wonder has never gone away. 961 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,800 It's a survivor from long ago. 962 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:16,200 VALERIE: Underwater is wonderful. 963 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:24,800 It's a great feeling, and so many people don't really understand it 964 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,520 because they feel it's full of dangers, which it isn't. 965 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,680 I will probably be diving when I'm in a wheelchair. 966 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,800 There's no gravity. I can fly. 967 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,320 -Hello. -MALE VOICE: Hello. 968 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:05,960 It's a fabulous area down there. 969 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:07,960 It certainly is. 970 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,240 Very rich. Terrific corals. 971 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,040 Well, a shark hit me. I hope they got it. 972 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,360 (CHUCKLES) 973 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,400 Did you see the shark hit me? 974 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:23,960 Yes. A nice display. 975 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,520 -It didn't mean it. -BEN: Yeah. 976 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:27,320 It was only his tail. 977 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,200 I think some of them probably recognized you. 978 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:30,640 -I think so. -BEN: You were so close. 979 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,080 -VALERIE: Yeah. They come in. -(CHUCKLES) 980 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,920 I do know them. Like, I've known them for a long time I think. 981 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,040 SYLVIA: No one can do everything. 982 01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:47,480 And Valerie has clearly done more than her share. 983 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:49,960 But there is cause for hope. 984 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,440 And all we have to do is look at Valerie and say, 985 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,240 "Look. Look what she's done, why not you?" 986 01:26:58,840 --> 01:26:59,720 Anyhow... 987 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,560 here's to the sharks! 988 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,640 (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING)