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A NETFLIX ORIGINAL DOCUMENTARY

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BLOOD

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BATHROOM

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BLOOD

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ACT 1
THE MANHUNT

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The night of July 8, 1995,

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I slept really badly.

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I woke up around 5:30 a.m.

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with a knot of anxiety.

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I'm not sure how to describe it,
but the feeling

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was very intense and violent.

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I looked at my watch

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and I waited until 8:30 a.m.

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before I called Hélène.

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And then,
something extraordinary happened.

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A man answered.

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I thought I'd dialed wrong.

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I hung up.

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I called back and got a man again.

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I asked, "What's going on?"
He was a fireman.

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At that point,

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I remember saying, "Put my daughter on.

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What's going on?"

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And the man said…

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I can still hear his voice…

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"No ma'am, I can't put her on."

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-It's over?
-"Yes, it's over."

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PARIS-EAST-BOBIGNY

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On our way to Paris, we stopped frequently

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at every rest stop to call back.

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There was no answer.

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We drove all those miles

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without knowing.

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There was just that man who'd said,

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"Yes, it's over." Period.

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We followed the police car

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to the famous police headquarters
at 36 Quai des Orfèvres.

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Obviously I asked them what had happened.

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1ST FLOOR LANDING
FACING THE VICTIM'S FRONT DOOR

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I felt the stab in my heart.

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Right there.

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THE KNIFE

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BLOOD, TABLE, KNIFE

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ENTRANCE, BEDROOM

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PILLOW, EXHIBIT N°1, BED

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27 YEARS OLD
PSYCHOLOGY STUDENT

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JULY 8, 1995

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I DON'T WANT TO LIE TO YOU,

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I DIDN'T SLEEP EITHER
THE NIGHT OF JULY 7-8.

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PARIS CRIMINAL POLICE HEADQUARTERS

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NATIONAL POLICE
THE POLICE, A MAN'S JOB

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THE POLICE, A MAN'S JOB

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My father and grandfather were policemen.

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But I'll admit

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I've always been drawn
to active lines of work.

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OFFICER IN SKIRT CATCHES THE STRANGLER

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I've never dressed up as a guy.

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"WOMAN-COP"

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I was the first woman
to head the Crime Brigade.

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It's an elite unit, France's best

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in terms of criminal investigation.

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THE LADY AT POLICE HEADQUARTERS

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I began running the Crime Brigade
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CRIME BRIGADE

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The Crime Brigade immediately told me

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about the murders of young women.

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They dumped a stack of files on my desk
and told me to get on with it.

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Two cases immediately stood out,

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Agnès Nijkamp.

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AGNÈS NIJKAMP
12.10.1994

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BEDROOM
BODY OF AGNÈS NIJKAMP

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32 YEARS OLD
INTERIOR DESIGNER

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The other case was Hélène Frinking.

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She had been murdered
in similar conditions

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to the Nijkamp case.

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Her body displayed
roughly the same wounds.

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We had to get the scumbag who did this.

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We wanted to avenge them.

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Let's not mince words.

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That's your motivation.
We all have it, not just me.

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It becomes a personal quest.

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In other words,

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it was down to him or us.
We had to win. We had to get him.

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VICTIM: HÉLÈNE FRINKING
BORN 02/12/67 IN HOLLAND

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Hélène was the fourth of six children.

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I was highly influenced by the sun.

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Hélène is for Helios, the sun.

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In 1995, she was almost 27.

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She wanted to go to Paris
to study psychology

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TWO WHITE MARKS

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In the Frinking case,

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we were lucky to have DNA.

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The same was true for Nijkamp.

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Semen had been found on her body.

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CRIME BRIGADE

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Then a witness statement
was delivered to me.

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Elisabeth was a victim

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who escaped from her assailant.

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BUTCHER’S KNIFE
NECK

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He bound and gagged her.

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When he went to turn out the light,

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which was upstairs
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she got out, since the bedroom

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was on the ground floor.

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She managed to wriggle free and escape.

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She was an important witness
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23 YEARS OLD
OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST

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We also had DNA,

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because he smoked and we found
a Winston cigarette butt.

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We were able to link the three cases

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since the DNA matched.

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MALE DNA

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The DNA was labeled "SK"
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because the three crime scenes
were linked.

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But unfortunately, unlike the British
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we didn't have one.

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If we'd had a database,

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maybe we'd already be
arresting him and identifying him.

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But we didn't.

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UNKNOWN MALE DNA

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I learned that there was a survivor.

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A girl called Elisabeth.

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Before Hélène's murder,

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she'd managed to escape
from the same attacker.

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The DNA was the same. It was amazing.

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Her testimony was a great help.

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She was able to establish

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a police sketch.

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She described a North African man.

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She was quite pleased with this sketch.

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That's how she truly saw him.

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He had a buzz cut
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prisons, the Foreign Legion,
firemen, police. He was athletic.

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You get the idea.

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The muscular type.

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We also noted that the women were attacked

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in the evening or at night.

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So we looked into night workers.

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We checked cab drivers and so on.

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Anything that corresponded
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and the young woman's testimony.

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She was very brave, in fact.

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She went out into Paris with the unit.

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Particularly the 11th arrondissement,

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to see if they might run into the guy.

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FOOTPRINT IN BLOOD

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I learned early on

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that he'd left a footprint

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in blood near the bed.

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It turned out his second toe

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was longer than his big toe.

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WANTED INDIVIDUAL

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Apparently that's quite common,

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a lot of people have this.
It's called an Egyptian foot.

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We had all our suspects
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to check their feet.

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We were looking at tiny clues,

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because we didn't have much to go on.

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I saw the guy everywhere.

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I saw him as a bus driver.

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I saw him pretty much everywhere.

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My daughter's apartment
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This is it.

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My daughter was here
and the young man was there.

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The guard could see him from there.

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I had to find him.

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I absolutely had to find him!

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I went to Hélène's street

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and asked all the shopkeepers

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if they'd heard about it.

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People didn't know.

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The police had not checked out
Hélène's street or neighborhood.

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That was a shock.

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She was very, very involved.
She followed it closely.

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She wanted to investigate with us.

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It was hard to turn her away.

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You can't really do that.

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All this relates to the case.

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I was the pain-in-the-ass resident,
but I'm not sorry.

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I wanted to carry out a co-investigation.

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That's a good thing, right?

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You did this and this,
but have you done that?

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Obviously, they got tired of it.

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But I didn't let up.

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I kept at them from the start.

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The thing is, she needed to realize

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we weren't twiddling our thumbs.

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We lived and breathed those case files.

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They were with us 24/7.

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The work was massive!

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Granted, we couldn't find him.

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A woman, a mother,

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she falls and suffers.

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Then she gets back up and fights.

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That's the truth.

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WITNESS STATEMENT
ELISABETH O.

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"CALL ME FLO"

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She learned, no doubt through Elisabeth,

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that he'd mentioned the name Flo,
Florian or something.

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You'd see "Flo" on trucks.

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It was a truck company.

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ON THE BACK OF MANY TRUCKS?

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I passed so many trucks
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I'd stop at rest areas

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to check out the drivers.

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Later I learned that "Flo" was also

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the name of a restaurant.

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So I thought it might be someone

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who worked in a Flo restaurant.

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It was a popular chain in Paris.

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There was one on the boulevard

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where she walked home that night.

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I made sure they went and checked

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the lists of employees, etc.

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I pressured them a bit.

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She told the judge

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that maybe we should…

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follow that lead,

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so we questioned…

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a bunch of employees

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from the Flo restaurants.

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595 CASE FILES

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Nothing came of it. Nothing at all.

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AUGUST 31, 1997

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The Princess of Wales died last night

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in a car crash in Paris under Alma bridge.

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She was with her boyfriend
Dodi Al-Fayed, who was also killed.

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The Crime Brigade,
headed by a woman, Martine Monteil,

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will lead the investigation.
She was on site immediately.

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It was very difficult and stressful.

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We were already
overwhelmed at the Crime Brigade.

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We didn't need a traffic accident!

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But when it's the Princess of Wales,
you can't ignore it.

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That's impossible. There's pressure

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from the highest level of government.

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We had to move heaven and earth,
if I can put it that way. So we did.

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I told the guys it was our job.

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That's just how it is.

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I put a team on it right away.

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But as soon as we could,
we returned to their cases.

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Because although this accident
involved deaths,

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the circumstances weren't disturbing.

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Whereas here we had dead girls,

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and above all, a guy on the loose!

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And we still hadn't found him.

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HALLWAY
FRONT DOOR

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On September 23, 1997, we got a call.

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A young man had discovered

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his fiancée at her home

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in the 19th arrondissement.

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We went immediately.

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BLOOD MARKS
DINING ROOM

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CURTAIN, BLOOD
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FILE CABINET
TELEPHONE

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When I walked in, I literally froze.

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I thought, "No way, he's back at it."

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19 YEARS OLD
STUDENT

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Magali Sirotti's parents
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It was a horror show.

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When you wake up
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and see her face in her coffin,

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all you can think about
is how she must have suffered.

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What else can you say?

266
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How she must have suffered!

267
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Magali was such a terrible blow.

268
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I knew right away it was him.
It was so obvious to me.

269
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So obvious.

270
00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:06.720
It was too late for my daughter.
But there mustn't be others.

271
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Close friends were telling me,

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"Look, you're not a cop or a lawyer.
You're not this or that.

273
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You're a mother, so go see the mother."

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I went to see the mother.

275
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And it was…

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an extraordinary meeting.

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The victim, Magali…

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She was engaged, about to get married.

279
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When we reached the crime scene

280
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of Magali Sirotti,

281
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it wasn't a slap in the face,
it was a sledgehammer.

282
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She was dead
because we hadn't arrested him.

283
00:22:16.040 --> 00:22:19.320
Good God, what did we miss?

284
00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.640
We've been busting our butts on this case!

285
00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:26.640
Where's the clue to unravel?
What can it be?

286
00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.840
Why is this girl dead?

287
00:22:30.560 --> 00:22:32.760
The guy is still on the loose.

288
00:22:32.840 --> 00:22:36.240
We need to move fast
and be more on our toes.

289
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If he's still out there,
he might do it again soon.

290
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Period.

291
00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:59.960
I'm a journalist, I deal with cops,

292
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police, criminals, bandits.

293
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:09.560
Back then, women journalists
who wrote about crime didn't exist.

294
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I was the first.

295
00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:17.480
The cops at the Bureau
saw me as this little gal,

296
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a nosy reporter, a snoop.

297
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I had a certain style.

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Miniskirt, biker jacket, high heels.

299
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The cops at the Bureau
couldn't figure me out.

300
00:23:35.840 --> 00:23:38.320
At first, I played naive.

301
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:42.360
They quickly realized
I wasn't actually that naive.

302
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Late September 1997,

303
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I met a cop from the Crime Brigade.

304
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He told me,

305
00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.760
"On September 23rd we got the case

306
00:23:55.840 --> 00:23:58.840
of a young woman named Magali Sirotti.

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The perp tied her up and raped her.

308
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It was a heinous crime.

309
00:24:03.520 --> 00:24:05.560
And this crime

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00:24:06.280 --> 00:24:09.360
may be linked to other rape-murders."

311
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I said, "Really?"

312
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.280
"How can you be sure it's the same guy?"

313
00:24:13.360 --> 00:24:16.160
He said, "For Magali, we're not sure.

314
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Same modus operandi.
We're waiting for DNA.

315
00:24:20.600 --> 00:24:23.080
But for two other murder victims

316
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and one survivor, we have DNA.

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We're sure it's the same guy."

318
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UNKNOWN MALE DNA (SK)

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(SK) BLOOD TYPE B

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00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.800
BLEND OF MALE DNA AND VICTIM'S DNA

321
00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:36.280
UNKNOWN MALE DNA

322
00:24:36.360 --> 00:24:37.920
"We must break the story."

323
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.320
I said, "I want to tell it."

324
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:41.840
He said, "Not yet!

325
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You could ruin the investigation.

326
00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:46.880
This guy's extremely dangerous.

327
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:50.800
I hope you never have to see
a crime scene like these.

328
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.280
Please, this guy is on the loose,

329
00:24:54.360 --> 00:24:58.520
I beg you, don't break the story yet."

330
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I respected the deal.

331
00:25:00.360 --> 00:25:04.280
I may be a reporter,
but I'm a citizen above all.

332
00:25:04.360 --> 00:25:07.800
I didn't want a rapist and woman-killer

333
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.000
roaming free and evading arrest

334
00:25:11.080 --> 00:25:12.720
because of what I wrote.

335
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:20.560
There we were. He was at it again.

336
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:27.840
We had to act fast.
It was a race against time.

337
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:29.480
CRIME LABORATORY

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00:25:29.560 --> 00:25:32.760
At the time, the forensics department

339
00:25:32.840 --> 00:25:34.480
was in the dark ages.

340
00:25:34.560 --> 00:25:36.520
I mean, seriously.

341
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.680
The crime scene analysts
who took samples at the scenes

342
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:46.600
were a bunch of drunks and losers

343
00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:48.840
who'd been put out to pasture.

344
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.400
It should have been cutting-edge,
but it wasn't.

345
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.360
LABORATORY OF MOLECULAR GENETICS

346
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:56.040
To make up for these shortcomings,

347
00:25:56.120 --> 00:26:00.720
the Crime Brigade turned to Dr. Pascal,

348
00:26:00.800 --> 00:26:02.920
who pioneered DNA research in France.

349
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.240
PASCAL O.
HOSPITAL DOCTOR

350
00:26:08.120 --> 00:26:12.640
Ms. Monteil and the Crime Brigade
completely trusted Dr. Pascal.

351
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.280
He analyzed, case by case,

352
00:26:16.360 --> 00:26:19.080
samples taken from crime scenes.

353
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.880
Traces of sperm, blood and hair.

354
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:27.400
He compared those with the unknown DNA

355
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.760
which Dr. Pascal named "SK"…

356
00:26:29.840 --> 00:26:30.680
MALE DNA (SK)

357
00:26:30.760 --> 00:26:33.920
…because it was the first
serial killer DNA in France.

358
00:26:35.120 --> 00:26:38.120
He fought alongside the Crime Brigade

359
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.920
to establish a DNA database.

360
00:26:41.520 --> 00:26:44.280
Many French people opposed it.

361
00:26:44.360 --> 00:26:46.640
The idea of it frightened them.

362
00:26:47.320 --> 00:26:49.440
This DNA database

363
00:26:49.520 --> 00:26:51.640
is a dangerous precedent.

364
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.320
It could lead to a national DNA database.

365
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.240
-A slippery slope.
-Your DNA, your history…

366
00:26:58.320 --> 00:27:00.800
I completely agree with you.

367
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:02.760
I oppose that database!

368
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.080
OUTSIDE 12 RUE DE LA FORGE ROYALE
PARIS 11TH ARRONDISSEMENT

369
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POLICE STATEMENT

370
00:27:26.520 --> 00:27:28.720
On November 16, 1997,

371
00:27:28.800 --> 00:27:33.040
another victim was discovered
in the 11th arrondissement.

372
00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:38.080
25 YEARS OLD
SECRETARY

373
00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:43.440
Look how beautiful she was.

374
00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:47.160
The others too. They were all so pretty.

375
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:48.840
It's truly…

376
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:50.760
My God.

377
00:27:51.800 --> 00:27:53.400
A life torn apart.

378
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:55.520
It's horrible.

379
00:28:07.360 --> 00:28:09.240
Her name was Estelle Magd.

380
00:28:09.320 --> 00:28:12.160
Her parents had a key to her apartment.

381
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.920
When she didn't answer, they went over

382
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.400
and found their daughter

383
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.000
naked and bloody.

384
00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:24.680
She had the same neck wounds
and punctures.

385
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:39.760
We found the same lacerated clothing.

386
00:28:39.840 --> 00:28:41.200
It was…

387
00:28:41.280 --> 00:28:44.960
For me, it was a signature. Very clearly.

388
00:28:45.560 --> 00:28:48.120
DISCOVERY OF BAG WITH GREY T-SHIRT

389
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.200
We found a sweatshirt.

390
00:28:50.280 --> 00:28:55.280
A size large sweatshirt,
splattered with blood.

391
00:28:55.360 --> 00:28:57.840
We were sure to find DNA.

392
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:01.520
The sweatshirt was covered
with blood and sweat.

393
00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:06.240
We matched it with the other cases
where we'd found DNA.

394
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.680
I couldn't say anything.

395
00:29:18.760 --> 00:29:21.720
I understand perfectly well

396
00:29:21.800 --> 00:29:25.000
that it was the police's duty

397
00:29:25.080 --> 00:29:28.240
to preserve secrecy. I respected that.

398
00:29:28.320 --> 00:29:29.920
One hundred percent.

399
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.680
But when you have two girls

400
00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:35.840
murdered the same way

401
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.680
as my own daughter,

402
00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:40.440
then I said,

403
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.720
"The media."

404
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.920
I can confirm that by late July '95,

405
00:29:46.560 --> 00:29:51.240
the authorities knew
they were up against a serial killer.

406
00:29:51.320 --> 00:29:54.480
An extremely dangerous man

407
00:29:54.560 --> 00:29:57.640
who, like any serial killer,

408
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.040
could kill again.

409
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.840
There's a serial killer in Paris.

410
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.480
-…serial killer.
-…serial killer…

411
00:30:05.560 --> 00:30:07.440
The East Paris serial killer…

412
00:30:07.520 --> 00:30:10.200
The police sketch based on the statement

413
00:30:10.280 --> 00:30:13.080
of another woman who escaped
the same sort of attack.

414
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:17.160
Anne Gautier, a mother and her family,
meet with the judge.

415
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:20.960
They want to know if police
will finally arrest

416
00:30:21.040 --> 00:30:23.680
the serial killer who murdered Hélène.

417
00:30:23.760 --> 00:30:26.120
Will they catch him? I hope so.

418
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.280
We continue to hope.

419
00:30:28.360 --> 00:30:30.160
You can't fully grieve

420
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:31.840
until justice is done.

421
00:30:33.040 --> 00:30:36.280
Anne Gautier is very angry. She says,

422
00:30:36.360 --> 00:30:37.720
"These two last deaths,

423
00:30:37.800 --> 00:30:42.280
Magali Sirotti and Estelle Magd
should never have happened.

424
00:30:42.360 --> 00:30:45.120
It's a scandal and I'm speaking out now

425
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.800
to warn the women of Paris
to protect themselves

426
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.960
not to fall prey to this predator."

427
00:30:53.040 --> 00:30:55.160
A serial killer can't stop.

428
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:58.600
He won't stop until he is arrested.

429
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:00.760
FEAR IN THE CITY

430
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.320
People are talking, they're scared.

431
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.280
They're buying the paper
to see the police sketch.

432
00:31:07.360 --> 00:31:11.800
They want to help move things forward
and catch him.

433
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.560
Paris was hysterical.

434
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:19.360
The revelation of a serial killer
in East Paris

435
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.840
along with the press coverage
of Anne Gautier

436
00:31:25.040 --> 00:31:28.840
meant that the women of Paris were scared.

437
00:31:31.080 --> 00:31:32.320
I'm pretty worried.

438
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.840
When I enter my building,

439
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.320
I make sure I close the door behind me.

440
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.840
The electronic message boards in Paris

441
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:47.000
warned women, "Don't go home alone.

442
00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:50.400
Get someone to take you,
a taxi or a friend…"

443
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.560
A detective told me,
"Patricia, be careful.

444
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.800
If your door takes 15 seconds to close

445
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.120
a guy can slip in."

446
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:02.960
FEAR IN BASTILLE

447
00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:05.120
I'll admit

448
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.360
I wasn't pleased about it getting out.

449
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.200
It was hysteria.

450
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.320
It is what it is.

451
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.360
France doesn't have
very many serial killers.

452
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.000
This isn't the United States.

453
00:32:23.080 --> 00:32:27.560
It got a lot of press, people ate it up.
The ball was rolling.

454
00:32:30.320 --> 00:32:34.720
The police have a sketch
of a 30-year-old man with dark hair.

455
00:32:35.320 --> 00:32:39.000
Several details link past cases
to those of today.

456
00:32:39.080 --> 00:32:41.200
Police are wary,

457
00:32:41.280 --> 00:32:44.240
sex crimes and murder are rare in Paris,

458
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:45.960
until now.

459
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.840
The term "serial killer" itself

460
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.440
was taboo for them at the time.

461
00:32:56.520 --> 00:32:59.720
Dr. Pascal named the DNA "SK"

462
00:32:59.800 --> 00:33:02.400
but the cops didn't use that term.

463
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.360
This + this + this = serial killer.

464
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.840
But in France we think we're smart

465
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:11.640
so it simply can't be a serial killer.

466
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:13.400
We don't have those here.

467
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.360
It was too reminiscent

468
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.600
of American serial killers
who are very different

469
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.680
with much longer series.

470
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.480
They didn't fully grasp

471
00:33:27.560 --> 00:33:30.920
in terms of psychology
or the investigation

472
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.600
what a serial killer actually is.

473
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.400
So we had no DNA database,

474
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.760
we had no notion of the psychology
of a serial killer.

475
00:33:43.560 --> 00:33:45.080
On top of that,

476
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.840
there was no cross-referencing in France.

477
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.480
The files were scattered
throughout every city and courthouse.

478
00:33:52.560 --> 00:33:56.120
Some things weren't working,
some were a total mess.

479
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.080
In January '98,

480
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.360
the Crime Brigade released a photo

481
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:10.560
of an XXL grey sweatshirt.

482
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.040
That sweatshirt was shown everywhere.

483
00:34:16.120 --> 00:34:20.560
"If you know anyone with a sweatshirt
like this, call us."

484
00:34:20.640 --> 00:34:26.680
When you're reduced to showing
a sweatshirt that could be anyone's,

485
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.960
you're grasping at straws.

486
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.440
I was under pressure

487
00:34:35.520 --> 00:34:40.320
and rightly so,
as head of the Crime Brigade.

488
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.800
I kept saying over and over,

489
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:48.640
I also wanted to press
for the creation of a DNA database.

490
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.520
MALE DNA (SK)

491
00:34:52.600 --> 00:34:55.160
OFFICE OF JUDGE THIEL
FIRST EXAMINING MAGISTRATE

492
00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:00.080
Judge Thiel and I saw each other often.

493
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:03.720
He said,

494
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.640
"We need to hit all the labs,

495
00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:08.440
take everything we can,

496
00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:10.120
then run matches.

497
00:35:10.200 --> 00:35:12.640
Force them to run matches

498
00:35:12.720 --> 00:35:15.080
with the serial killer's DNA."

499
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.000
The central authorities were shocked.

500
00:35:19.080 --> 00:35:21.600
They said we weren't allowed
to look for matches.

501
00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:26.120
They had no database.
I gave them a piece of my mind.

502
00:35:26.200 --> 00:35:27.640
It was such a disgrace.

503
00:35:27.720 --> 00:35:31.560
I said, "You'd rather have
deaths on your conscience?"

504
00:35:31.640 --> 00:35:35.280
Because if we were quick and efficient,

505
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.480
we could look for matches

506
00:35:37.560 --> 00:35:41.360
and maybe even get a name.

507
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.880
Yes, we skirted the law.
We were all fine with that.

508
00:35:48.080 --> 00:35:49.600
The ends justified the means.

509
00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:53.720
We weren't violating
French people's identity.

510
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.520
We weren't doing evil things.

511
00:35:56.600 --> 00:36:00.320
We were after a serial killer
targeting young women.

512
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.960
We already had too many of these cases.

513
00:36:05.200 --> 00:36:08.680
We had to do everything we could
to stop him.

514
00:36:12.040 --> 00:36:14.160
We open up a file,

515
00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:16.480
we read the genetic code

516
00:36:16.560 --> 00:36:18.680
and compare it to the unknown DNA.

517
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:20.200
VOICE OF DR. PASCAL

518
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:23.280
If the numbers are different,
we put it back,

519
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.840
take another one and start over.

520
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.600
Is there a way to cross-check the files?

521
00:36:28.680 --> 00:36:32.360
No, unfortunately without a database

522
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.960
each file is stored individually
and must be checked one by one

523
00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:38.840
in order to find the genetic code.

524
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.360
JANUARY 1998
FEBRUARY 1998

525
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.040
MARCH 1998

526
00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:50.400
It was March 24, 1998.

527
00:36:51.200 --> 00:36:54.800
I got a call from Dr. Pascal.

528
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.480
My heart jumped. I thought, "Oh my God!"

529
00:36:57.560 --> 00:37:01.840
It's not like we never saw each other
around headquarters.

530
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.800
But I could tell something was up.

531
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:09.360
He said, "I have good and bad news."

532
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.400
I said, "Give me the good news!"

533
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.480
He said, "We've identified him."

534
00:37:13.560 --> 00:37:15.440
IDENTIFICATION OF UNKNOWN MALE DNA

535
00:37:15.520 --> 00:37:17.760
DNA OF GUY GEORGES

536
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.720
FROM THE CIGARETTE BUTT

537
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:23.160
VAGINAL SWABS

538
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.320
MALE DNA: GUY GEORGES

539
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.560
It was…

540
00:37:30.680 --> 00:37:33.840
a deliverance. Such a sense of relief.

541
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.840
An indescribable deliverance.

542
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.320
DNA OF GUY GEORGES

543
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.440
DOCTOR O. PASCAL
HOSPITAL OF NANTES

544
00:37:42.520 --> 00:37:43.800
"And," he said,

545
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.840
"the bad news is…

546
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.560
the killer had already been brought in
back in 1995."

547
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:54.480
And that…

548
00:37:55.160 --> 00:37:57.880
that was a shock indeed.

549
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:03.520
At the time, he'd been questioned mainly

550
00:38:03.600 --> 00:38:06.080
by a team handling cases

551
00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:09.240
of girls murdered in parking lots.

552
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.560
If you dig a little you can find

553
00:38:21.640 --> 00:38:23.320
a few similarities,

554
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:27.280
but why were some in garages
and others in apartments?

555
00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:34.320
There were clues,
the wounds and slashed clothes.

556
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:40.800
27 YEARS OLD
MARKETING ASSISTANT

557
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.000
There was no sperm,
but he could have used a condom.

558
00:38:50.520 --> 00:38:54.880
22 YEARS OLD
PRESS SECRETARY

559
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.080
We had the firm conviction it was him,

560
00:38:58.160 --> 00:39:00.440
the investigators were pretty sure.

561
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:12.920
And there was a much older case,
from 1991.

562
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:14.760
Pascale Escarfail.

563
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.560
CLOTHES, WOUNDS, BLOOD

564
00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:23.760
BODY OF PASCALE ESCARFAIL

565
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:30.760
19 YEARS OLD
STUDENT

566
00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:52.480
I said, "We'll deal with that later.
We'll debrief later.

567
00:39:52.560 --> 00:39:56.320
Right now the important thing
is hunting down this beast."

568
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.080
I distributed his photo
throughout the country.

569
00:40:11.200 --> 00:40:12.480
We had to act fast.

570
00:40:12.560 --> 00:40:16.320
The predator was prowling the city.

571
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.760
My obsession was to arrest him
in a matter of hours.

572
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.840
I asked for extra manpower
and we drew up a list

573
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.400
of addresses and places
where we were likely

574
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.720
to encounter Guy Georges.

575
00:40:46.120 --> 00:40:48.520
I had another urgent mission.

576
00:40:48.600 --> 00:40:52.440
I told the unit leader

577
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.960
we had to call the victims' families.

578
00:41:01.200 --> 00:41:03.000
I got a call from Ms. Monteil.

579
00:41:03.640 --> 00:41:06.200
"Mrs. Gautier, we've got a name.

580
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.240
But don't tell anyone,

581
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.840
not your children or anyone else."

582
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:14.640
I got that.

583
00:41:14.720 --> 00:41:18.800
They were out looking for him.

584
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:21.200
Let's hope he doesn't kill again.

585
00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:31.600
There was such media hype
surrounding the case.

586
00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:34.600
The press could obviously sense

587
00:41:35.600 --> 00:41:40.040
a certain energy and commotion.

588
00:41:40.120 --> 00:41:42.840
Police Headquarters
were buzzing with activity.

589
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:45.280
They sensed it.

590
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.920
The boss said, "The press knows."

591
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.880
And I said, "Please!
Please keep them quiet!

592
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.280
Please, no leaks!"

593
00:41:56.520 --> 00:41:59.440
MARCH 26, 1998
7:01 AM

594
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:03.040
The East Paris serial killer
now has a face.

595
00:42:03.120 --> 00:42:06.360
A manhunt is underway. Stay tuned.

596
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.800
The East Paris Serial Killer
had been identified.

597
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.720
The Crime Brigade knew his name:
Guy Georges.

598
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.080
Then, the shock!

599
00:42:16.160 --> 00:42:18.800
A crime reporter, like me,

600
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.560
revealed the killer's name
before he was arrested.

601
00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:25.560
You simply don't do that.

602
00:42:25.640 --> 00:42:29.520
Imagine if Guy Georges had heard that.

603
00:42:29.600 --> 00:42:32.880
On TV or the radio or wherever.

604
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.920
He could flee and jeopardize the manhunt.

605
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.000
But we kept at it.

606
00:42:39.080 --> 00:42:43.960
You have to realize,
Police Headquarters is a war machine.

607
00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:47.000
Evading us is not that easy.

608
00:42:47.080 --> 00:42:50.000
I was optimistic we'd find him.

609
00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:56.400
I knew we would.

610
00:42:58.080 --> 00:42:59.840
THE SAME DAY
12:44 PM

611
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.320
There were two officers on a stakeout

612
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.320
that morning at the Blanche metro stop.

613
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.560
They were already there in place.

614
00:43:14.640 --> 00:43:19.200
They see this guy leave the metro.

615
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.440
One says to the other,

616
00:43:21.520 --> 00:43:23.120
"Look! Look!

617
00:43:23.200 --> 00:43:25.480
It's the guy from the photo."

618
00:43:25.560 --> 00:43:29.600
They take it out.
"Gosh, it's him! Let's go!"

619
00:43:29.680 --> 00:43:32.400
They grabbed him and made an arrest.

620
00:43:34.200 --> 00:43:37.680
GROCERY STORE
WHERE GUY GEORGES WAS ARRESTED

621
00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:41.560
SECURITY GUARD
WHO WITNESSED THE ARREST

622
00:43:41.640 --> 00:43:43.880
POINTING TO WHERE IT HAPPENED

623
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.880
He came in this morning.

624
00:43:47.520 --> 00:43:50.400
The police followed him in
and asked for his name.

625
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.600
They leapt on him.

626
00:43:52.680 --> 00:43:56.080
They brought him here
and forced him to his knees.

627
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:58.960
Then they took him away.

628
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.280
DNA tests are conclusive,

629
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.320
implicating him in three murders
and one murder attempt.

630
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:30.120
Yet Guy Georges looks nothing
like the police sketch

631
00:44:30.200 --> 00:44:32.480
widely published for months.

632
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:37.120
There have been enough deaths
and suffering.

633
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:39.360
This is good.

634
00:44:42.520 --> 00:44:44.400
Now he'll be judged.

635
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:48.360
And we, the families,

636
00:44:49.200 --> 00:44:51.840
we can truly begin grieving.

637
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:19.600
This man had caused so much pain.

638
00:45:20.240 --> 00:45:21.320
My God.

639
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.400
You had to take a deep breath.

640
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.960
I thought,
"he's the monster who killed them."

641
00:45:29.040 --> 00:45:31.800
I kept seeing the photos of the girls.

642
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:33.720
All those photos.

643
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:36.920
For me, it was a monster

644
00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:40.160
who climbed the stairs that day.

645
00:45:40.240 --> 00:45:41.680
A true monster.

646
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:43.040
It's all I could think.

647
00:46:05.040 --> 00:46:06.800
Behold the new portrait of Guy Georges,

648
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.960
arrested yesterday for the murder
of three women in East Paris.

649
00:46:11.040 --> 00:46:13.520
Today, he admitted to two others.

650
00:46:13.600 --> 00:46:18.280
Police suspect his involvement
in two additional murders.

651
00:46:21.240 --> 00:46:24.960
We'd done our job.
We had him, he couldn't kill anymore.

652
00:46:25.040 --> 00:46:29.000
For the cases with DNA,
we could rest easy.

653
00:46:29.080 --> 00:46:31.080
When it came down to it,

654
00:46:31.160 --> 00:46:32.480
he'd left evidence.

655
00:46:32.560 --> 00:46:35.320
All we needed was a confession

656
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.920
for the cases with no DNA.

657
00:46:40.160 --> 00:46:41.920
We had this guy.

658
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.800
I wondered what lawyer, however talented,

659
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.440
could debunk the case.
We went to court confident.

660
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:59.960
ACT 2
JUDGMENT

661
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.280
I REALIZE I'M SPEAKING TO YOU OPENLY,

662
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.840
AS IF YOU WERE MY FRIEND.

663
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.320
MARCH 19, 2001

664
00:47:22.040 --> 00:47:25.200
A sexual criminal is innocent
until proven guilty.

665
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.400
For me it's about personality.

666
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.800
Either I want to defend someone
or I don't.

667
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.080
It's a matter of chemistry.

668
00:47:35.160 --> 00:47:37.600
There's no rhyme or reason to it.

669
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.320
We've all been in the situation

670
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:48.960
where we meet someone new

671
00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:51.840
and they make a bad impression on us.

672
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.040
We think how we would never want

673
00:47:55.120 --> 00:47:57.720
to find ourselves alone with them.

674
00:47:58.600 --> 00:48:00.240
That wasn't the case.

675
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.560
When you meet Guy Georges,
he doesn't come across as manipulative.

676
00:48:09.640 --> 00:48:12.720
You think he's an open book.

677
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.120
He has no hidden agenda, he's not devious.

678
00:48:16.200 --> 00:48:17.440
And not violent.

679
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.040
DAY 1 OF THE TRIAL

680
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.760
-You can take your sweater off.
-Okay.

681
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:47.800
-Look at me though.
-What?

682
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.040
-Look at me.
-Yes, but it's hard.

683
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.160
-May I sit down?
-Yes, go ahead.

684
00:49:09.120 --> 00:49:12.160
Guy Georges' trusted lawyer

685
00:49:12.240 --> 00:49:13.480
was Alex Ursulet.

686
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.200
Alex Ursulet,

687
00:49:17.600 --> 00:49:19.280
who is my ex-husband,

688
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:24.440
asked me to join him on the case
a few weeks before the trial.

689
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:29.160
Putting a woman on the case

690
00:49:30.720 --> 00:49:33.720
was no doubt part of the defense strategy

691
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:36.960
devised by Alex Ursulet

692
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.360
or any male lawyer
when it comes to rape cases.

693
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.200
It's just elementary.

694
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.200
He presented the case

695
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.880
as a man who was unjustly accused.

696
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.840
Evidence had been found
at each crime scene.

697
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.720
Some of this evidence cleared Guy Georges.

698
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.360
For instance,

699
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:06.240
his handprints were never found.

700
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.720
At one crime scene there was a print

701
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:12.040
from an Egyptian foot,
which he does not have.

702
00:50:12.120 --> 00:50:14.840
The police sketch distributed for months

703
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.520
looked nothing like Guy Georges.

704
00:50:17.600 --> 00:50:20.000
POLICE SKETCH 97/225

705
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:22.120
On principle,

706
00:50:23.080 --> 00:50:24.960
what I think is of no interest.

707
00:50:25.680 --> 00:50:27.880
I consider it strictly irrelevant.

708
00:50:29.240 --> 00:50:31.600
What matters is what's in the file.

709
00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:36.240
My gut feeling
of whether I believe he's guilty or not,

710
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.080
my personal conviction is of no interest.

711
00:51:00.040 --> 00:51:02.560
Guy Georges isn't a monster, he's a man.

712
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:04.440
That's the problem.

713
00:51:08.640 --> 00:51:11.040
Inside Guy Georges

714
00:51:11.120 --> 00:51:15.000
there's the same humanity
I have inside me.

715
00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:18.760
Inside you. Inside all of us.

716
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:21.120
That's the terrifying part.

717
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:26.000
A monster would be easier.

718
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.120
The problem is
we're cut from the same cloth.

719
00:51:36.560 --> 00:51:39.640
And that's what is so painful.

720
00:51:40.240 --> 00:51:42.360
That's the great mystery.

721
00:51:43.080 --> 00:51:44.400
And the real tragedy.

722
00:51:46.200 --> 00:51:48.200
He's not a monster, but a man.

723
00:51:53.200 --> 00:51:54.600
I was 30.

724
00:51:54.680 --> 00:51:57.800
It was my 2nd major trial

725
00:51:57.880 --> 00:51:58.960
as a lawyer.

726
00:51:59.640 --> 00:52:03.440
But this time I was defending the victims.

727
00:52:19.640 --> 00:52:21.640
He must stop doing harm.

728
00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:25.880
Justice must be served, period.

729
00:52:29.600 --> 00:52:32.600
We know it's him
because there is evidence.

730
00:52:32.680 --> 00:52:35.920
It's not a crazy hunch or suspicion.
We know it's him.

731
00:52:36.600 --> 00:52:39.320
We also know juries are easily swayed.

732
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.800
If he'd admitted in court,

733
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.040
"Where they found my DNA, that was me.
But not the others."

734
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:55.280
I worried the jury would sentence him
for the cases with DNA,

735
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:58.320
but acquit him for those without.

736
00:53:04.120 --> 00:53:06.120
That would have been intolerable.

737
00:53:06.720 --> 00:53:08.520
Because it wasn't the truth.

738
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:11.200
There was that tension.

739
00:53:14.200 --> 00:53:15.400
It was really tough.

740
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.280
I sat here in the first row.

741
00:53:22.560 --> 00:53:26.040
I wanted Guy Georges in my line of sight.

742
00:53:26.720 --> 00:53:31.000
I wanted to see his reactions
and write it all down.

743
00:53:31.640 --> 00:53:33.800
Everything that happened.

744
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:36.240
Names, attitudes…

745
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.480
I didn't want to miss a thing.

746
00:53:42.560 --> 00:53:45.640
It was going to be a war
between the two sides.

747
00:53:47.200 --> 00:53:51.600
Alex Ursulet swore to me
right before the trial

748
00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:53.520
that Guy Georges was innocent.

749
00:53:54.080 --> 00:53:56.000
There'd been a judicial error.

750
00:53:56.600 --> 00:54:00.800
He said,
"Patricia, I'll prove it in court.

751
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.320
I swear to God
that Guy Georges is innocent."

752
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:14.360
I never wanted to go to the trial.

753
00:54:15.040 --> 00:54:16.720
That wasn't for me.

754
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:21.560
My goal was to get him arrested
and sent to trial.

755
00:54:21.640 --> 00:54:23.920
But it wasn't for me.

756
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:27.600
DAY 2

757
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.720
Outside the courthouse,
the crowd gets bigger each day.

758
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.600
Inside the courtroom, the tension rises.

759
00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:39.800
In the dock, Guy Georges,
alleged rapist-killer of seven women,

760
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:41.760
angers the victims' families.

761
00:54:42.560 --> 00:54:45.680
All week, he's replied to the judge
with the same insolence,

762
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:46.920
"I did not kill."

763
00:54:48.040 --> 00:54:50.760
I see that there is no limit
to Guy Georges' perversion.

764
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.120
CATHY'S MOTHER

765
00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:54.400
Through his attitude, he continues

766
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:56.920
to do harm and cause damage.

767
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.080
To the victims and their families

768
00:54:59.160 --> 00:55:02.160
who are extremely vulnerable and in pain.

769
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:06.960
To think he denied it.

770
00:55:07.040 --> 00:55:09.880
It was absolutely shocking.

771
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:11.000
You wondered…

772
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.480
Was it bad advice or was he crazy?

773
00:55:14.560 --> 00:55:17.520
We simply didn't get it.

774
00:55:17.600 --> 00:55:20.520
We were surprised, but serene.

775
00:55:21.160 --> 00:55:24.720
After all, he'd confessed to everything.

776
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:26.600
VICTIM: MAGALI SIROTTI

777
00:55:26.680 --> 00:55:29.040
I WANT TO EASE MY CONSCIENCE

778
00:55:29.120 --> 00:55:30.840
VICTIM: CATHERINE ROCHER

779
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.000
I AM THE ATTACKER

780
00:55:33.080 --> 00:55:35.800
THE WHOLE TRUTH OF THIS CASE

781
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:39.240
Even in the cases with no evidence:
Escarfail,

782
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.360
Magali Sirotti…

783
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:43.720
He confessed to everything.

784
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:45.840
GUY GEORGES' STATEMENT

785
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.960
FRANCIS BECHET
POLICE CAPTAIN

786
00:55:48.040 --> 00:55:50.200
Officer Francis Bechet,

787
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:51.880
a.k.a. Sidney,

788
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.160
was the first
to get Guy Georges to confess.

789
00:55:55.240 --> 00:55:57.920
Sidney was up at the stand.

790
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:02.440
He'd already told me the story
of how he got Guy Georges to confess.

791
00:56:02.520 --> 00:56:06.960
He didn't say this in court,
but to get Guy Georges to talk,

792
00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:09.640
Sidney knew he mustn't be made to feel,

793
00:56:09.720 --> 00:56:12.080
right after his arrest,

794
00:56:12.160 --> 00:56:14.360
like Public Enemy No.1.

795
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.440
So Sidney

796
00:56:16.520 --> 00:56:19.240
created an atmosphere

797
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.720
in his office at headquarters.

798
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.920
He put on some jazz music.

799
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:27.880
He offered him some whiskey.

800
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:32.360
Then he started chatting with Guy Georges

801
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.960
in a very informal way.

802
00:56:35.040 --> 00:56:36.680
A BLOND GIRL…

803
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:38.640
CAUGHT MY EYE…

804
00:56:38.720 --> 00:56:42.040
Guy Georges gave him a confession

805
00:56:42.720 --> 00:56:46.680
bursting with details.
He told him everything.

806
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:47.760
Like…

807
00:56:49.120 --> 00:56:50.760
like a confidant.

808
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.680
He bought an Opinel 12 knife

809
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:56.280
and some duct tape.

810
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:59.160
He was finishing a beer

811
00:56:59.960 --> 00:57:03.520
when a young woman walked by
all dressed in black.

812
00:57:03.600 --> 00:57:07.840
Blond, 19 years old, pretty as a picture.

813
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.360
Guy Georges tells Sidney

814
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.440
he was attracted to the pretty girl.

815
00:57:13.520 --> 00:57:18.000
He left right away and followed the girl.

816
00:57:18.080 --> 00:57:20.080
He went upstairs behind her,

817
00:57:20.160 --> 00:57:24.080
held her at knife-point
and spent hours with her.

818
00:57:32.120 --> 00:57:35.880
Pascale was a heroine.

819
00:57:36.520 --> 00:57:37.840
She kicked him.

820
00:57:38.560 --> 00:57:40.080
She was five foot three.

821
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.360
19 years old, tied up, naked

822
00:57:46.200 --> 00:57:48.080
and she kicked him.

823
00:57:48.680 --> 00:57:49.520
And…

824
00:57:51.040 --> 00:57:52.960
it made Guy Georges mad.

825
00:57:53.040 --> 00:57:54.000
And…

826
00:57:54.520 --> 00:57:57.480
her mouth, when they found her,

827
00:57:57.560 --> 00:58:00.000
when the police found her,

828
00:58:00.080 --> 00:58:04.320
wasn't gagged,
but the tape had left marks.

829
00:58:05.040 --> 00:58:08.040
Her mouth was open.

830
00:58:08.120 --> 00:58:10.840
Sidney, the cop,

831
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:14.360
had asked himself repeatedly
during the seven-year manhunt,

832
00:58:15.120 --> 00:58:16.400
"What was she saying?

833
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.920
What were Pascale's last words
as she died?"

834
00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:22.320
And Guy Georges says,

835
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.760
"The tape came loose.

836
00:58:25.640 --> 00:58:29.200
She looked at me and asked,
'What are you doing?

837
00:58:29.720 --> 00:58:31.040
Are you killing me?'"

838
00:58:31.720 --> 00:58:33.080
And that…

839
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:37.520
Sidney was blown to bits
by what he'd heard.

840
00:58:37.600 --> 00:58:42.640
A victim's final words
in the mouth of her killer.

841
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.320
Sidney asked what he did after that.

842
00:58:47.080 --> 00:58:49.560
"I washed my hands in the kitchen sink.

843
00:58:49.640 --> 00:58:53.200
I saw some beers so I drank one.

844
00:58:54.240 --> 00:58:56.360
I took another and left."

845
00:59:05.160 --> 00:59:09.160
DAY 3

846
00:59:12.720 --> 00:59:15.640
Sometimes innocent men confess in custody.

847
00:59:15.720 --> 00:59:18.760
You think people never confess
then retract?

848
00:59:19.720 --> 00:59:23.360
You'll see, when we examine it

849
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:25.320
case by case,

850
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.080
how they created a culprit.

851
00:59:28.640 --> 00:59:32.040
They exaggerated and blamed him

852
00:59:32.120 --> 00:59:36.520
for nearly all the crimes
that took place at a time

853
00:59:36.600 --> 00:59:40.040
when he could have committed them
because he wasn't in jail.

854
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:46.480
He'd always maintained
that his arrest had been violent.

855
00:59:46.560 --> 00:59:49.240
When he was brought in
to police headquarters,

856
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.240
he was made to climb the stairs.

857
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.160
He said he was beaten then.

858
00:59:55.240 --> 00:59:57.480
And later, in custody.

859
00:59:57.560 --> 01:00:02.040
Don't forget,
back then, no lawyers were present

860
01:00:02.120 --> 01:00:03.480
and it wasn't filmed.

861
01:00:03.560 --> 01:00:07.960
He said he was pressured into confessing.

862
01:00:09.160 --> 01:00:10.600
To things he didn't do.

863
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:12.680
He was never beaten!

864
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:16.840
He had one very minor head injury,

865
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:18.640
sustained during arrest.

866
01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:22.920
End of story. The rest of the time,

867
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:26.360
it was a psychological "game."

868
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:30.280
A psychological game
between the investigators and him

869
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.120
to get a confession.

870
01:00:32.200 --> 01:00:33.600
That's all.

871
01:00:33.680 --> 01:00:36.800
You don't need to beat a man
to get a confession.

872
01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:45.560
He's taunting us.

873
01:00:45.640 --> 01:00:48.040
Taunting the court, everyone.

874
01:00:48.120 --> 01:00:52.320
We see him sitting there.
It's unbelievable.

875
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:56.240
The victims' families

876
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:59.280
were expecting
Guy Georges to be sentenced.

877
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.800
But they needed to hear it,

878
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:05.720
and hear Guy Georges explain.

879
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.840
Answer the questions they still had

880
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:13.200
about the final moments
of their daughters or sisters.

881
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.600
I don't know how to describe it.

882
01:01:17.680 --> 01:01:19.040
A monster.

883
01:01:19.120 --> 01:01:20.440
ELSA'S MOTHER

884
01:01:20.520 --> 01:01:21.480
Zero reaction.

885
01:01:21.560 --> 01:01:24.520
When he looked at the photos, nothing.

886
01:01:24.600 --> 01:01:25.680
It's crazy.

887
01:01:28.600 --> 01:01:31.960
I looked at the photos
from each crime scene.

888
01:01:32.040 --> 01:01:35.000
That was an unbearable part of the trial.

889
01:01:35.080 --> 01:01:38.240
Guy Georges
didn't flip through the photos.

890
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.320
Guy Georges looked at them

891
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:43.480
one by one.

892
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:47.880
He examined them attentively, calmly.

893
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:50.920
But very focused. Distant.

894
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:55.080
He looked at them all,
he studied each one.

895
01:01:58.640 --> 01:01:59.920
It was…

896
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.360
It was chilling.

897
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:07.440
We looked at them for maybe 20 seconds.

898
01:02:09.040 --> 01:02:11.720
But him? I timed it.

899
01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:13.320
I said, "Guy Georges,

900
01:02:15.680 --> 01:02:19.640
you looked at the photos for five minutes,
40 seconds. I timed it.

901
01:02:20.160 --> 01:02:23.200
If the question wasn't specific,
he wouldn't answer.

902
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.600
He'd say, "No, not at all.
How do you know that?"

903
01:02:26.680 --> 01:02:28.600
So my question was clear.

904
01:02:28.680 --> 01:02:31.480
"You looked at the photos for
five minutes, 40 seconds?"

905
01:02:31.560 --> 01:02:33.720
And he went…

906
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.560
"I dunno. It is what it is."

907
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:41.400
He didn't even say

908
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:45.720
that he was surprised,
or trying to analyze them.

909
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.000
He said it wasn't him,
but he couldn't say why he looked.

910
01:02:50.080 --> 01:02:51.960
I pressed the issue.

911
01:02:52.040 --> 01:02:56.720
I wasn't satisfied with his answer
and didn't sit down.

912
01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:58.480
Then he said…

913
01:03:00.040 --> 01:03:00.920
"It hurts."

914
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:05.760
I asked, "How do you hide it so well?"

915
01:03:06.680 --> 01:03:08.280
Obviously, he didn't reply.

916
01:03:12.520 --> 01:03:15.400
DAY 4

917
01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:22.080
CRIMINAL COURT
LAWYERS' ENTRANCE

918
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.400
We need to have people,

919
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:29.960
men or women, I'm not a feminist,

920
01:03:30.040 --> 01:03:35.120
who attempt to defend
what some might call indefensible.

921
01:03:35.200 --> 01:03:37.720
No. Nothing is indefensible.
This is proof.

922
01:03:41.080 --> 01:03:42.040
It's terrifying.

923
01:03:42.120 --> 01:03:43.680
It was a terrifying case.

924
01:03:44.680 --> 01:03:47.160
But he's a human being.

925
01:03:48.600 --> 01:03:51.720
WITHOUT REALIZING IT,

926
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:55.240
I CALLED YOU 'MOM' TWICE

927
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:01.840
I'm so struck by his childhood.

928
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.280
He was born out of wedlock

929
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:10.160
to a young woman and a passing soldier.

930
01:04:10.240 --> 01:04:13.440
…TO CONSIDER YOUR CHILD "ABANDONED"…

931
01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:18.440
DECLARATION OF ABANDONMENT

932
01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:20.160
CHILD PUT UP FOR ADOPTION

933
01:04:20.240 --> 01:04:23.480
WARD OF THE STATE

934
01:04:23.560 --> 01:04:27.640
He was rejected again and again.

935
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.280
Guy Georges quickly ended up

936
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:33.720
with Child Services.

937
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:37.400
He was placed with the Morin family.

938
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.320
And this family

939
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.560
was as loving and supportive
as can be expected

940
01:04:43.640 --> 01:04:47.280
when you have practically 20 children.

941
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.320
In other words, seven biological children

942
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:54.520
and 13 foster children.

943
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.280
What happened after the age of 16?

944
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:05.200
He…

945
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:09.960
He attacked a girl from behind.

946
01:05:10.040 --> 01:05:11.640
He tried to choke her.

947
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.960
Jeanne Morin
came through the witness door.

948
01:05:20.040 --> 01:05:21.520
WITNESSES FOR THE CRIMINAL COURT

949
01:05:21.600 --> 01:05:22.600
She went to the stand.

950
01:05:23.200 --> 01:05:24.560
She'd come to explain

951
01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:29.200
Guy Georges' childhood
and why she finally rejected him

952
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:33.840
after Guy Georges
assaulted his two foster sisters.

953
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:35.720
One when he was 14,

954
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:37.640
the other, Christiane,

955
01:05:37.720 --> 01:05:40.920
with a metal rod against her throat.

956
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:44.600
Guy Georges was 15 or 16.

957
01:05:44.680 --> 01:05:47.040
Mrs. Morin said it was a wake-up call.

958
01:05:47.640 --> 01:05:50.240
She called the social worker
and Child Services.

959
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:52.200
She sent Guy Georges away.

960
01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:56.320
He was sent to a group home.

961
01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.920
He became a runaway, a delinquent.

962
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.360
And it just went downhill from there.

963
01:06:07.680 --> 01:06:10.360
The amazing thing

964
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:15.320
was you could see Guy Georges was touched,

965
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:18.200
moved by this elderly woman.

966
01:06:19.240 --> 01:06:21.000
At one point he said to her,

967
01:06:21.080 --> 01:06:22.320
"Mom,

968
01:06:23.040 --> 01:06:25.800
I want to tell you, I love you."

969
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:29.720
And Mrs. Morin turned to him

970
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:34.560
and said, "I love you, too.

971
01:06:35.200 --> 01:06:38.120
But now my heart is drained."

972
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:39.920
And then…

973
01:06:40.640 --> 01:06:44.240
Guy Georges' face falls.
He sits back down.

974
01:06:45.160 --> 01:06:48.440
She didn't love him anymore.

975
01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:54.120
No way.

976
01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:59.560
Guy Georges doesn't move me at all
as a woman.

977
01:07:02.200 --> 01:07:03.080
Moved?

978
01:07:03.160 --> 01:07:06.000
You mean touched?

979
01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:07.360
No.

980
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:10.640
Of course he had a tragic life.
No question.

981
01:07:10.720 --> 01:07:13.360
But he was free, he acted freely.

982
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:17.040
What Guy Georges did was insane,
but he's not.

983
01:07:17.120 --> 01:07:19.720
He's free. Free not to do it.

984
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:22.400
He knew it was wrong. Evil.

985
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:25.880
So I'm not moved at all. Enough already.

986
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.360
I'm moved by the pain
of the victims I defend.

987
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.040
DAY 5

988
01:07:41.560 --> 01:07:44.720
I hope he has the guts to admit,

989
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:46.840
as he did during the investigation,

990
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:49.600
what happened, because it is the only way

991
01:07:49.680 --> 01:07:53.440
for us to understand these atrocious deeds

992
01:07:53.520 --> 01:07:56.520
and for him to be able
to look himself in the mirror.

993
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.440
By Day 5, we were overwhelmed.

994
01:08:05.520 --> 01:08:08.360
Overwhelmed by pain.

995
01:08:10.240 --> 01:08:11.680
What I wanted

996
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.960
was for Guy Georges to contradict himself

997
01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:18.360
so I could be positive

998
01:08:18.440 --> 01:08:22.680
he'd be convicted
for Pascale Escarfail's murder too,

999
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:27.400
even though no evidence tied him to it.

1000
01:08:27.480 --> 01:08:30.840
So from the start of the trial

1001
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:33.680
I would question him every time

1002
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:37.680
I saw him getting tripped up.

1003
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:39.320
Then I noticed something.

1004
01:08:40.440 --> 01:08:42.760
Something very unusual, at lunchtime.

1005
01:08:44.320 --> 01:08:46.920
I wanted to question Guy Georges about it

1006
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:48.520
before the end of the day.

1007
01:08:53.480 --> 01:08:55.120
It was about 6:00 p.m.

1008
01:08:59.920 --> 01:09:01.120
I decided to

1009
01:09:02.160 --> 01:09:03.320
cross-examine him.

1010
01:09:04.080 --> 01:09:05.440
I was given the floor.

1011
01:09:06.120 --> 01:09:07.000
I stood up.

1012
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:23.720
Guy Georges.

1013
01:09:27.040 --> 01:09:30.840
You heard the clothing expert earlier

1014
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:32.840
explain that

1015
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.280
the knife that slashed the clothes

1016
01:09:36.360 --> 01:09:39.320
was held by someone left-handed.

1017
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:43.480
You told us you were right-handed.

1018
01:09:44.280 --> 01:09:45.360
Isn't that right?

1019
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:48.800
Guy Georges says yes.

1020
01:09:52.200 --> 01:09:53.120
Guy Georges,

1021
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:56.120
are you sure you're right-handed?

1022
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.440
You never use your left hand?

1023
01:10:02.440 --> 01:10:03.320
He says no.

1024
01:10:06.040 --> 01:10:08.320
Guy Georges, I insist.

1025
01:10:08.400 --> 01:10:10.680
You do everything right-handed?

1026
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:14.320
You don't use both hands?
You're not ambidextrous?

1027
01:10:17.240 --> 01:10:18.200
He answers no.

1028
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:22.960
Guy Georges,

1029
01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:26.160
I'm surprised.

1030
01:10:26.240 --> 01:10:28.000
Because, here's the thing…

1031
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:30.000
I watched carefully.

1032
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:32.960
When you're handed photos,

1033
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.200
you take them with your right hand.

1034
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:39.800
But when you look through them,

1035
01:10:40.360 --> 01:10:43.120
you do it like this, with your left hand.

1036
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:47.360
And you move the microphone
with your left hand.

1037
01:10:49.160 --> 01:10:50.280
So…

1038
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:53.960
Suddenly,

1039
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:56.360
he looks at me and says,

1040
01:10:57.560 --> 01:10:59.000
"That's because…

1041
01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:00.840
"It's logical…

1042
01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:04.400
"The photos, the mic…

1043
01:11:05.200 --> 01:11:06.080
"But…"

1044
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:12.320
And he raises his hand: "But…"

1045
01:11:15.480 --> 01:11:17.680
But what, Guy Georges?

1046
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:20.640
You strike with your right hand?

1047
01:11:22.200 --> 01:11:23.080
He says yes.

1048
01:11:25.320 --> 01:11:28.400
And when you stab,
do you use your right hand?

1049
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:31.240
Guy Georges says yes.

1050
01:11:32.240 --> 01:11:35.120
He starts to realize what he's just done.

1051
01:11:36.240 --> 01:11:39.440
He completely changes.

1052
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:41.960
His smile turns into a sneer.

1053
01:11:42.040 --> 01:11:45.520
He's furious at himself
and at Solange Doumic.

1054
01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:47.880
He looks daggers at her.

1055
01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:51.360
He lowers his hand.

1056
01:11:51.440 --> 01:11:54.720
The courtroom is deathly quiet.

1057
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.840
He'd just confessed, he'd acted it out.

1058
01:11:58.480 --> 01:12:00.800
We saw him.

1059
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:04.200
We saw the true Guy Georges,
he wasn't the man from before.

1060
01:12:04.280 --> 01:12:06.200
At that moment, you really felt

1061
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.360
the violence. Guy Georges the killer.

1062
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:14.480
Thank you.

1063
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:28.200
So, at that moment,

1064
01:12:28.280 --> 01:12:31.880
I turned to Guy Georges

1065
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.080
and asked him,

1066
01:12:34.160 --> 01:12:37.240
"What were you talking about?
What did you mean?"

1067
01:12:37.320 --> 01:12:40.600
We all expected him to say,

1068
01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:42.720
"In street fights…"

1069
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.640
The regular old Guy Georges
from the last five days.

1070
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.160
From his chair,

1071
01:12:49.240 --> 01:12:53.120
he literally jumped to his feet
to answer. Like this.

1072
01:12:53.200 --> 01:12:56.280
And he shouts, pointing at me,

1073
01:12:56.360 --> 01:12:59.840
his face twisted by hatred.

1074
01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:01.080
He shouts,

1075
01:13:01.160 --> 01:13:04.840
"She's the one! She trapped me!
It's a game to her!"

1076
01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:06.080
And Doumic replies,

1077
01:13:06.160 --> 01:13:08.680
"No, it's not a game."

1078
01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:11.680
There's too much pain and suffering here.

1079
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.920
"But," she says,
"I consider it a confession

1080
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.160
when for 15 seconds
you seemed to say, I'll kill you.'"

1081
01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:25.040
I started to lose it.

1082
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:29.000
I burst into tears.

1083
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.760
Luckily I had my hair.

1084
01:13:32.440 --> 01:13:36.080
But it all came out. Court adjourned.

1085
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:46.120
So in a room in the back
we were able to see him,

1086
01:13:46.200 --> 01:13:50.800
obviously surrounded by guards,
but they stood back

1087
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:53.160
so we could talk in private.

1088
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:54.920
But…

1089
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:59.480
Guy Georges was in no state to talk.

1090
01:13:59.560 --> 01:14:03.400
It wasn't the same Guy Georges.

1091
01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:06.320
This wasn't the man
from earlier in the trial.

1092
01:14:06.400 --> 01:14:09.520
I felt like I was speaking

1093
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:12.280
to a twisted iron bar.

1094
01:14:16.440 --> 01:14:19.960
And I felt all this violence

1095
01:14:20.040 --> 01:14:22.360
was going to explode, possibly at me.

1096
01:14:22.440 --> 01:14:25.120
Because I think it was blind rage.

1097
01:14:27.200 --> 01:14:30.800
The guards must have felt the same thing.

1098
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:32.480
Because for the first time

1099
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:37.560
one of them sat
between me and Guy Georges.

1100
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:47.120
I felt I was meeting

1101
01:14:48.440 --> 01:14:51.960
the Guy Georges the victims saw.

1102
01:15:04.480 --> 01:15:06.280
The sense of ruin

1103
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:12.320
surrounding this case suddenly hit me.

1104
01:15:12.400 --> 01:15:14.600
All these ruined lives around me.

1105
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:19.320
Guy Georges' ruined life.
His life was ruined from the start.

1106
01:15:19.400 --> 01:15:22.080
That's undeniable.

1107
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:24.680
And…

1108
01:15:25.480 --> 01:15:28.680
It was nothing but pain and ruin.

1109
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:42.640
DAY 6

1110
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:46.600
When the trial resumed
Monday morning on Day 6,

1111
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.400
everyone was convinced
Guy Georges was going to talk.

1112
01:15:51.480 --> 01:15:55.680
We're all waiting and nothing happens.
The stand is empty.

1113
01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:57.920
He refused to leave jail that morning.

1114
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:00.120
So the judge

1115
01:16:00.200 --> 01:16:02.520
ordered him out by force

1116
01:16:03.200 --> 01:16:04.800
so he'd come to his trial.

1117
01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:06.920
He was in a foul mood.

1118
01:16:07.480 --> 01:16:10.960
He turned up unshaven,

1119
01:16:11.040 --> 01:16:13.520
unkempt, extremely angry.

1120
01:16:14.400 --> 01:16:18.680
The judge tried to resume the trial.

1121
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:21.760
"Guy Georges, when we left off
Friday evening,

1122
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:24.080
you had things to say to the families.

1123
01:16:24.160 --> 01:16:27.120
Are you ready to talk now?"

1124
01:16:28.400 --> 01:16:31.960
Guy Georges says, "No, not now.

1125
01:16:32.040 --> 01:16:34.600
I'll talk to the families,
but not like this.

1126
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:36.840
I piss on justice."

1127
01:16:37.360 --> 01:16:41.080
DAY 7

1128
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:46.680
It's him. No surprise there.

1129
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:48.120
ELSA'S MOTHER

1130
01:16:48.200 --> 01:16:50.600
You try to tell yourself that he's human,

1131
01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:52.240
but, in fact, he's not.

1132
01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:59.760
I didn't really know
if Guy Georges would talk,

1133
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:04.400
but I kept thinking…

1134
01:17:05.120 --> 01:17:08.520
I hope we don't have a repeat
of last week.

1135
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:13.160
At that point, the only thing

1136
01:17:14.240 --> 01:17:17.280
that Alex Ursulet and I hoped

1137
01:17:17.360 --> 01:17:20.200
was that he could truly explain himself,

1138
01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:24.240
so no one could tell us, "he's a monster."

1139
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:27.160
We needed to understand why he did it.

1140
01:17:27.240 --> 01:17:30.920
He had to do at least that.

1141
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:36.400
It was a matter of morality
with regard to his deeds.

1142
01:17:37.080 --> 01:17:40.720
At the very least,
he needed to find the fortitude

1143
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:44.480
before the court and families
to explain it.

1144
01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:46.120
He's on his feet.

1145
01:17:46.200 --> 01:17:50.320
If he's a human being,
then he's able to stand up and say,

1146
01:17:50.400 --> 01:17:52.000
"Yes, I did that."

1147
01:17:53.160 --> 01:17:54.320
Tuesday afternoon,

1148
01:17:55.040 --> 01:17:57.280
Guy Georges had changed.

1149
01:17:57.360 --> 01:17:59.600
He'd shaved his head.

1150
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.520
He traded his green tracksuit

1151
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.440
for an immaculate white sweater.

1152
01:18:06.080 --> 01:18:09.960
In comes Elisabeth,
who'd escaped him in '95.

1153
01:18:10.040 --> 01:18:12.200
Stunning, long red hair.

1154
01:18:12.280 --> 01:18:16.240
She's led straight before Guy Georges
and she waits.

1155
01:18:16.320 --> 01:18:19.880
Alex leaned close to Guy Georges
and told him,

1156
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:24.400
"If you have something to say,
now's the time.

1157
01:18:24.480 --> 01:18:27.240
Say it for your family.

1158
01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:31.800
Tell us, did you attack Elisabeth?"

1159
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.760
And Guy Georges says yes.

1160
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:36.400
He looks down and says yes.

1161
01:18:40.400 --> 01:18:42.680
We barely heard it. It was a whisper.

1162
01:18:44.120 --> 01:18:46.520
Ursulet continues. He says,

1163
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:51.360
"Are you the one
who killed Ms. Escarfail?"

1164
01:18:52.320 --> 01:18:53.320
"Yes."

1165
01:18:54.040 --> 01:18:56.480
"Did you kill Cathy Rocher?"

1166
01:18:57.280 --> 01:18:58.120
"Yes."

1167
01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:00.480
It was like a litany.

1168
01:19:01.360 --> 01:19:05.560
Ursulet listed the names of each victim.

1169
01:19:06.240 --> 01:19:09.520
"Did you kill Ms. Sirotti, Ms. Bénady…"

1170
01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:10.880
"Yes, yes, yes."

1171
01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:12.920
Those yeses came from deep down.

1172
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:17.880
At that moment,
the courtroom was dead silent.

1173
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:22.560
Not so much as a fly buzzed
in that courtroom.

1174
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:25.120
The only thing

1175
01:19:26.480 --> 01:19:30.000
we heard after Guy Georges had spoken,

1176
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:34.280
were the words
of one of the victims' mothers

1177
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:36.080
who said thank you.

1178
01:19:41.120 --> 01:19:44.040
I spoke the words, "Thank you."

1179
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:45.880
And he nodded.

1180
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:47.600
CATHY'S MOTHER

1181
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:50.080
And right now I'm reeling

1182
01:19:51.160 --> 01:19:52.760
from this non-conversation

1183
01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:56.320
in which I thanked my daughter's killer.

1184
01:19:57.160 --> 01:19:59.600
But it just came out.

1185
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.440
There was no thought behind it.

1186
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:21.640
Judging by the victims,
Guy Georges targeted

1187
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:25.080
women between 19 and 32. A wide range.

1188
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:29.040
There was no special physical style.

1189
01:20:29.120 --> 01:20:32.200
Brunettes, blondes, redheads.

1190
01:20:32.280 --> 01:20:33.520
Tall and short.

1191
01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:38.880
Not one was depressed, unemployed, lonely…

1192
01:20:40.160 --> 01:20:41.320
or down.

1193
01:20:41.400 --> 01:20:45.240
They were grounded women
with ambitions, boyfriends…

1194
01:20:45.320 --> 01:20:49.560
He told us it was their energy
that triggered him.

1195
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.560
The more energetic they were,
the more he was drawn to them.

1196
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.040
He said that,

1197
01:20:57.120 --> 01:20:59.480
when he saw them in the street,

1198
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:03.040
it was the energy they gave off
that attracted him.

1199
01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:07.560
It was this energy he found magnetic,

1200
01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:09.840
that awoke him.

1201
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:16.320
DAY 13

1202
01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:17.680
It was unexpected.

1203
01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:22.600
It didn't go as planned.

1204
01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:25.040
We decided

1205
01:21:25.120 --> 01:21:28.120
we had to see him through until the end.

1206
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:32.120
If I hadn't stuck with it
and pleaded for him,

1207
01:21:32.200 --> 01:21:35.560
for Guy Georges it would've meant

1208
01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:38.440
I was abandoning him.

1209
01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:40.400
Yet another woman was abandoning him.

1210
01:21:41.040 --> 01:21:43.480
That was unbearable.

1211
01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:46.000
So obviously I pleaded.

1212
01:22:03.160 --> 01:22:04.280
Your Honor.

1213
01:22:06.120 --> 01:22:09.400
Ladies and gentlemen
of the court and jury.

1214
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:13.120
This afternoon,

1215
01:22:14.320 --> 01:22:16.360
I'm the first to stand before you,

1216
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:19.960
and plead in defense of Mr. Guy Georges.

1217
01:22:21.360 --> 01:22:23.720
To plead in defense of the indefensible.

1218
01:22:27.400 --> 01:22:30.040
I would like to address you, Guy Georges.

1219
01:22:32.360 --> 01:22:33.520
I'd like to say

1220
01:22:36.200 --> 01:22:38.000
that you may be a psychopath,

1221
01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:41.800
but you were not born that way.

1222
01:22:43.480 --> 01:22:46.400
One is not born a psychopath,
one becomes one.

1223
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:51.280
The verdict will be no surprise.

1224
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:55.000
And…

1225
01:22:55.080 --> 01:22:57.560
I don't know what your future holds.

1226
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.040
Your future will be different.

1227
01:23:01.040 --> 01:23:04.280
But inventing that future is up to you.

1228
01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:14.640
DAY 14
FINAL DAY OF THE TRIAL

1229
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:17.400
The trial resumed at 4:42 pm.

1230
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:22.360
The judge announced the verdict
of the Paris Criminal Court.

1231
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.320
"Mr. Guy Georges,

1232
01:23:27.160 --> 01:23:30.080
you are sentenced to life in prison

1233
01:23:31.200 --> 01:23:33.280
with a minimum of 22 years."

1234
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:37.960
There's hugging and kissing
in the courtroom.

1235
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.120
You could even hear laughter
among the defendants.

1236
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:47.000
And it's over.

1237
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:05.520
EPILOGUE

1238
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:11.040
I OWE YOU SO MUCH

1239
01:24:11.120 --> 01:24:15.720
BECAUSE I TOOK SO MUCH FROM YOU.

1240
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:28.400
DON'T FEEL SAD
WE ARE LISTENING TO THE BIRDS

1241
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:33.440
Since I wasn't at the trial,

1242
01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:36.640
I heard it afterwards.
It was very emotional for me.

1243
01:24:37.240 --> 01:24:40.320
He asked the victims for forgiveness.

1244
01:24:41.080 --> 01:24:43.720
And since I wasn't there,

1245
01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:46.840
I thought about forgiveness and all that.

1246
01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:50.840
And I realized that no,
I couldn't forgive him.

1247
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:53.800
He didn't attack me, he attacked Hélène.

1248
01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:55.960
And so…

1249
01:24:56.040 --> 01:24:58.040
I decided I'd write to him.

1250
01:25:01.160 --> 01:25:02.560
And he wrote back.

1251
01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:05.840
MY DEAR ANNE,

1252
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:07.600
I DON'T WANT TO LIE TO YOU,

1253
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:09.960
I DIDN'T SLEEP EITHER
ON THE NIGHT OF JULY 7-8.

1254
01:25:10.040 --> 01:25:11.960
I REALIZE I'M SPEAKING TO YOU OPENLY,

1255
01:25:12.040 --> 01:25:14.280
AS IF YOU WERE MY FRIEND.

1256
01:25:14.360 --> 01:25:16.120
I OWE YOU SO MUCH,

1257
01:25:16.200 --> 01:25:18.080
BECAUSE I TOOK SO MUCH FROM YOU.

1258
01:25:18.160 --> 01:25:21.120
She entrusted me with his letters,

1259
01:25:21.200 --> 01:25:22.840
like a legacy.

1260
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:25.600
She also asked me

1261
01:25:26.360 --> 01:25:30.200
to see if the letters might be used

1262
01:25:30.280 --> 01:25:33.520
by psychiatrists
to comprehend Guy Georges.

1263
01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:38.840
To see him as more than a killer,
as someone intelligent

1264
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:42.920
with an understanding of who he is
and where he came from.

1265
01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.520
I WON'T LOSE HOPE

1266
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:48.800
STRAIGHT TO JAIL

1267
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:50.840
TELL ME WHAT TO DO

1268
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:55.200
I think we can learn
from Guy Georges' letters

1269
01:25:55.280 --> 01:25:58.400
so that other Guy Georgeses,
and there are many,

1270
01:26:00.120 --> 01:26:04.520
don't actually take action.
That's what matters today.

1271
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:09.000
AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION

1272
01:26:09.080 --> 01:26:12.200
How to recognize and help them

1273
01:26:12.280 --> 01:26:16.320
handle their pain in other ways
than by committing horrors.

1274
01:26:16.400 --> 01:26:21.520
THAT'S KIND OF YOU, ANNE

1275
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:23.400
It's very unusual

1276
01:26:23.480 --> 01:26:26.600
for a mother to write
to her daughter's murderer.

1277
01:26:29.320 --> 01:26:31.840
Because she believes in redemption.

1278
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:36.640
Anne believes that Guy Georges

1279
01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:38.120
can still be saved.

1280
01:26:38.200 --> 01:26:40.040
That he can be treated,

1281
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:42.880
undergo therapy, work through it.

1282
01:26:43.400 --> 01:26:45.480
I think she believes in that.

1283
01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:10.160
This is a walnut tree.

1284
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:16.240
It has suffered too. It's been cut.

1285
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.440
It's beautiful. Hélène.

1286
01:27:29.080 --> 01:27:30.960
I want to share

1287
01:27:31.040 --> 01:27:35.400
knowledge, hard work,
generosity and all that.

1288
01:27:35.480 --> 01:27:38.960
I don't want to share hate.
Absolutely not.

1289
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:42.040
It's not my thing.

1290
01:27:44.240 --> 01:27:46.560
Here. A souvenir for you.

1291
01:27:50.080 --> 01:27:51.280
There aren't many.

1292
01:27:56.120 --> 01:27:57.080
This here…

1293
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:00.400
This is peace.

1294
01:28:00.480 --> 01:28:03.520
You take your sorrow
and make something with it.

1295
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:05.560
That's what I want to share.

1296
01:29:49.400 --> 01:29:52.600
THANKS TO THE PERSISTENCE
OF THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES,

1297
01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.400
FRANCE FINALLY ACQUIRED
A DNA DATABASE IN 1998,

1298
01:29:55.480 --> 01:30:01.480
ALLOWING FOR THE RESOLUTION
OF HUNDREDS OF CASES.

1299
01:31:36.040 --> 01:31:41.000
Subtitle translation by Michelle Noteboom,
Sionann O'Neill, and David Pickering