1
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000
Downloaded from
YTS.MX

2
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000
Official YIFY movies site:
YTS.MX

3
00:00:25,734 --> 00:00:28,987
[commentator] And Wallace is fouled.
And Wallace is-- Oh! Wallace!

4
00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:30,196
Right on Artest!

5
00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,741
This has potentially serious…
[continues indistinctly]

6
00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:34,993
[droning music plays]

7
00:00:36,786 --> 00:00:38,621
[droning intensifies]

8
00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:42,876
[droning continues intensifying]

9
00:00:42,959 --> 00:00:44,127
[droning stops]

10
00:00:44,210 --> 00:00:45,962
[cold electronic music plays]

11
00:00:46,046 --> 00:00:48,256
[man over radio]
It's time for the NBA to stop pretending.

12
00:00:48,339 --> 00:00:51,176
Call it the TBA,
the Thug Basketball Association.

13
00:00:51,259 --> 00:00:55,346
These guys never had to follow the rules.
They are prima donna athletes.

14
00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:58,224
[disturbing droning music]

15
00:00:58,308 --> 00:01:00,185
I couldn't believe what was going on.

16
00:01:00,268 --> 00:01:01,853
It was an iconic brawl.

17
00:01:01,936 --> 00:01:03,063
Unprofessional.

18
00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:06,066
Absolutely unprofessional.

19
00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:08,276
[droning continues]

20
00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:12,155
It's hard to explain to people
from suburban America.

21
00:01:12,238 --> 00:01:13,573
Ron Artest just went nuts.

22
00:01:13,656 --> 00:01:15,825
He does have psychological problems.

23
00:01:16,785 --> 00:01:18,161
We ride together, fam!

24
00:01:18,244 --> 00:01:20,622
Stephen Jackson deserved
the most severe penalty.

25
00:01:20,705 --> 00:01:23,875
I'm never talking about this shit again.
Can you get that on camera?

26
00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:27,337
It was way too much pressure for me. Way--

27
00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:30,298
I felt I was trying to escape,
to find any way to escape.

28
00:01:30,381 --> 00:01:34,219
Pressure on the NBA to clean up its ranks,

29
00:01:34,302 --> 00:01:37,097
send a message
that these guys are not a bunch of thugs.

30
00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:38,681
If you actually knew what happened,

31
00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:41,643
you actually knew the effects
that it had on everybody…

32
00:01:41,726 --> 00:01:43,937
[tense music playing]

33
00:01:44,020 --> 00:01:45,897
…you wouldn't even be asking questions.

34
00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:49,526
I want the story out there.
What happened? Go frame by frame.

35
00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:50,944
[tense music continues]

36
00:01:53,571 --> 00:01:55,448
[O'Neal] Show people all the footage.

37
00:01:56,574 --> 00:01:59,911
Then when it's told, you make
your own conclusion on what it is.

38
00:02:01,621 --> 00:02:03,623
[cold electronic music playing]

39
00:02:12,215 --> 00:02:14,342
["Your Sweet Love" by Lee Hazlewood plays]

40
00:02:27,730 --> 00:02:34,320
♪ Stranger's arms reach out ♪

41
00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:36,656
♪ To me ♪

42
00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:41,494
♪ 'Cause they know ♪

43
00:02:41,578 --> 00:02:46,416
♪ I'm so lonely ♪

44
00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:53,381
♪ Then my mind goes back ♪

45
00:02:54,507 --> 00:02:56,301
♪ To you ♪

46
00:02:56,968 --> 00:03:01,181
♪ And your sweet love ♪

47
00:03:01,973 --> 00:03:05,476
♪ Sees me through ♪

48
00:03:08,396 --> 00:03:10,064
-[song fades]
-[insects chirping]

49
00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:13,568
[heavy breaths]

50
00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,740
[static crackling]

51
00:03:20,074 --> 00:03:23,036
[tense music playing]

52
00:03:30,501 --> 00:03:32,420
[crowd booing and yelling angrily]

53
00:03:37,425 --> 00:03:38,593
[indistinct yelling]

54
00:03:40,553 --> 00:03:44,140
All right, all right, all right, I'm good.
I can walk!

55
00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:45,725
-Okay, fine.
-I can walk!

56
00:03:45,808 --> 00:03:46,809
Okay, all right.

57
00:03:48,144 --> 00:03:49,479
We ride together, fam!

58
00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:53,274
[indistinct yelling]

59
00:03:59,572 --> 00:04:02,784
[indistinct]

60
00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,750
[O'Neal] Once we got to the locker room,
I remember just sitting down,

61
00:04:10,833 --> 00:04:12,835
and I sat there for a while, and I sat…

62
00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:15,338
I literally sat in my uniform.

63
00:04:15,421 --> 00:04:18,883
And my phone just vibrating.
Like, it's going off.

64
00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:22,178
My wife calling me, my mother,
my brother, friends calling me.

65
00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,681
I think I had
over a hundred text messages.

66
00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:26,349
My adrenaline's still pumping.

67
00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:29,227
I'm just sitting there
trying to calm down, man.

68
00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:31,354
Just trying to calm down.
I'm still in fight mode.

69
00:04:31,437 --> 00:04:34,065
In my head, I'm like, "You're done."

70
00:04:35,024 --> 00:04:37,443
"There's no way--
you might not ever play again."

71
00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:39,529
"Start thinking about something else."

72
00:04:39,612 --> 00:04:40,989
[siren wailing]

73
00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:42,282
Thanks, I appreciate it.

74
00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:44,575
[reporter]
A stretcher taking away an injured fan.

75
00:04:44,659 --> 00:04:48,621
An ambulance on the scene
with flashing lights and victims inside.

76
00:04:48,705 --> 00:04:50,957
This is what became
of the Pistons-Pacers game

77
00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,542
at the Palace of Auburn Hills.

78
00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:55,169
But everyone's saying
it's a black eye for Detroit

79
00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:58,881
and pointing the finger
at some particular Pacers players.

80
00:04:59,632 --> 00:05:00,883
[O'Neal] When I got home,

81
00:05:01,384 --> 00:05:04,554
I'm up all night looking at this.

82
00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:07,515
[newswoman] We think there have to be
special rules in these sports arenas,

83
00:05:07,598 --> 00:05:10,935
and we think we have to have kid gloves
and treat these zillion-dollar athletes

84
00:05:11,019 --> 00:05:12,437
as if they're different and special.

85
00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,147
Too many players in this league

86
00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:18,443
whose actions and attitudes
bespeak kind of a thug mentality.

87
00:05:18,526 --> 00:05:20,695
[O'Neal] I just remember watching TV,

88
00:05:20,778 --> 00:05:26,409
and now I'm thinking about
all the work that I put in as a pro player

89
00:05:26,492 --> 00:05:28,328
to get to the point I've gotten to.

90
00:05:38,254 --> 00:05:39,797
Everything you worked for,

91
00:05:40,965 --> 00:05:42,675
in a split moment. [snaps fingers]

92
00:05:46,971 --> 00:05:49,807
Getting out of my position
of how I grew up

93
00:05:49,891 --> 00:05:51,559
in Columbia, South Carolina

94
00:05:51,642 --> 00:05:54,062
put me in a position
to look at life differently.

95
00:05:54,937 --> 00:05:57,273
They flew the Confederate flag
on the state house

96
00:05:57,357 --> 00:05:59,609
until as recently
as three or four years ago.

97
00:05:59,692 --> 00:06:01,986
[somber music playing]

98
00:06:04,530 --> 00:06:07,408
You make decisions growing up
because your environment is that.

99
00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:10,286
Your environment states
that's what you should be doing,

100
00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,997
but basketball became
that safe haven for me

101
00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:16,334
to, you know,
not go down the road that many do.

102
00:06:16,417 --> 00:06:18,795
[somber music continues]

103
00:06:20,171 --> 00:06:24,884
The National Basketball Association draft
of new talent is coming up on Wednesday.

104
00:06:24,967 --> 00:06:27,387
This year's crop is younger than ever.

105
00:06:27,470 --> 00:06:29,639
[newsman] One high school senior,
Jermaine O'Neal,

106
00:06:29,722 --> 00:06:31,974
thinks he's ready to play in the NBA.

107
00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:33,976
[announcer] Jermaine O'Neal!

108
00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:36,729
[newsman] O'Neal,
an All-American from South Carolina,

109
00:06:36,813 --> 00:06:39,482
has decided to try his luck in the draft.

110
00:06:39,565 --> 00:06:43,069
[O'Neal] I knew it was time
to make the jump to the NBA.

111
00:06:43,152 --> 00:06:45,571
I'm the piece that can change
the bloodline of my family,

112
00:06:45,655 --> 00:06:47,740
that can break the chains of things

113
00:06:47,824 --> 00:06:51,077
that have been going on
over and over and over and over again.

114
00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:51,994
I'm that piece.

115
00:06:52,078 --> 00:06:53,663
[somber music continues]

116
00:06:53,746 --> 00:06:58,042
The Portland Trail Blazers
select Jermaine O'Neal

117
00:06:58,126 --> 00:07:01,671
from Eau Claire High School
in South Carolina.

118
00:07:01,754 --> 00:07:03,256
[crowd cheering]

119
00:07:03,339 --> 00:07:06,175
[O'Neal] I got drafted at 17,
picked to the Portland Trail Blazers.

120
00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:07,093
[cheering]

121
00:07:07,176 --> 00:07:09,387
[O'Neal]
You get an opportunity to play something

122
00:07:09,470 --> 00:07:13,099
that many people
just dream about doing at 17.

123
00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:15,393
Right? Just started driving.

124
00:07:16,060 --> 00:07:17,895
But I also remember the boos.

125
00:07:17,979 --> 00:07:20,648
[crowd booing]

126
00:07:20,731 --> 00:07:24,193
That was one of the things
that really motivated me.

127
00:07:24,735 --> 00:07:26,154
Because people were counting me out.

128
00:07:26,237 --> 00:07:28,281
[commentator] And now Jermaine O'Neal…

129
00:07:28,364 --> 00:07:30,741
[O'Neal] I remember the first time
I played in an NBA game.

130
00:07:30,825 --> 00:07:33,202
It's like living a dream.

131
00:07:34,912 --> 00:07:37,832
There ain't nothing
like walking into those NBA arenas.

132
00:07:37,915 --> 00:07:38,958
Feeling that energy.

133
00:07:39,041 --> 00:07:40,126
[crowd cheering]

134
00:07:40,209 --> 00:07:41,878
-That hate if you're opposing team.
-[boos]

135
00:07:41,961 --> 00:07:43,963
Or that incredible love
if you're home team.

136
00:07:44,046 --> 00:07:46,924
-[crowd cheering]
-[commentator] Jermaine O'Neal!

137
00:07:47,008 --> 00:07:50,178
I became the youngest player at the time
to play an NBA game.

138
00:07:51,012 --> 00:07:55,099
Now I'm going from being the best player
on the court in high school

139
00:07:55,183 --> 00:07:59,228
to being the fourth-best person
at my position on my own team.

140
00:08:00,229 --> 00:08:03,608
You never think about not playing.
You just don't think about that.

141
00:08:03,691 --> 00:08:05,401
Because if you do, you're a loser.

142
00:08:06,235 --> 00:08:09,780
But it was like, "Damn, how dare you
just not even give me a chance?"

143
00:08:11,657 --> 00:08:15,328
I remember sitting at the end of the bench
and tears in my eyes.

144
00:08:18,122 --> 00:08:21,125
I was like, "Something gotta change."

145
00:08:21,209 --> 00:08:22,960
[static crackling]

146
00:08:23,544 --> 00:08:27,131
Well, it was just a couple months ago
when the Pacers lost to an O'Neal,

147
00:08:27,215 --> 00:08:29,675
but this week,
they gained one in Jermaine O'Neal.

148
00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:33,179
When I got the call that I got traded
from Portland to Indiana,

149
00:08:33,262 --> 00:08:36,307
I was so excited. It was an opportunity
to play with Reggie Miller.

150
00:08:36,390 --> 00:08:39,352
[chanting] Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!

151
00:08:39,435 --> 00:08:41,062
I'm a die-hard Reggie fan.

152
00:08:41,145 --> 00:08:42,897
I'm here for Reggie. [laughs]

153
00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:45,441
I come to the games
because of Reggie. [chuckles]

154
00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:48,194
[O'Neal] I know he's a true competitor.
He's a legend.

155
00:08:48,277 --> 00:08:51,405
I told them,
"Look, put me right next to his locker.

156
00:08:51,989 --> 00:08:53,157
I need to talk to him."

157
00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:55,576
[commentator]
Here's Reggie. Here's the shot!

158
00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:57,537
Ah!

159
00:08:57,620 --> 00:08:59,872
[cheering]

160
00:08:59,956 --> 00:09:02,458
[Miller] I played 18 years
for the Indiana Pacers.

161
00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:04,752
Indiana breathes basketball.

162
00:09:04,835 --> 00:09:05,711
They live it.

163
00:09:05,795 --> 00:09:08,923
So, me being a basketball junkie,

164
00:09:09,423 --> 00:09:10,341
I was in heaven.

165
00:09:10,424 --> 00:09:12,927
And I was fortunate that Donnie Walsh,

166
00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:15,596
the president/general manager,
took a chance on me.

167
00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:21,227
Reggie was the guy
that really put the Indiana Pacers

168
00:09:22,144 --> 00:09:24,689
on a trajectory
they had not been on before.

169
00:09:26,065 --> 00:09:27,525
He really wanted to win

170
00:09:27,608 --> 00:09:33,114
and did more than anybody anywhere
in attempting to get the championship.

171
00:09:33,197 --> 00:09:35,241
Reggie Miller
of the Indiana Pacers is here.

172
00:09:35,324 --> 00:09:39,203
He is one of the great basketball players
in the NBA.

173
00:09:39,287 --> 00:09:41,956
-Great to have you. Thanks for coming.
-Thank you. My pleasure.

174
00:09:42,039 --> 00:09:46,544
Is there more pressure on you this season
because of the success of last season?

175
00:09:46,627 --> 00:09:48,212
[Miller] I think so. Um…

176
00:09:49,130 --> 00:09:50,923
I-I wanna win the championship.

177
00:09:51,007 --> 00:09:54,927
That is… That is my big goal.
We came very close last year.

178
00:09:56,512 --> 00:09:59,724
[Miller] We got to the finals in 2000,
and we lost to the Lakers.

179
00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:02,018
[commentator] Jackson looking
to throw it in against Shaq.

180
00:10:02,101 --> 00:10:03,811
Reggie turns and puts it up.

181
00:10:03,894 --> 00:10:07,148
Off the rim,
and the Lakers are the NBA champions.

182
00:10:07,231 --> 00:10:09,775
[newsman] We can't help but wonder,
how many more chances

183
00:10:09,859 --> 00:10:11,902
for the magnificent Reggie Miller?

184
00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:15,698
[Miller] That was my 14th year,
and we had never won a championship.

185
00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:20,453
Looking at all the contracts and the age,
it was time for us to get younger,

186
00:10:21,203 --> 00:10:24,040
and they made and pulled the plug
in getting Jermaine.

187
00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:27,752
[O'Neal] The first day when I got traded,

188
00:10:27,835 --> 00:10:30,254
I was at Champps, downtown Indianapolis.

189
00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:33,799
And I walked in, I heard,
"That's the guy we traded Dale Davis for."

190
00:10:34,884 --> 00:10:36,052
People were pissed.

191
00:10:36,969 --> 00:10:38,638
They gutted the team.

192
00:10:39,388 --> 00:10:40,973
I was 20 years old.

193
00:10:41,932 --> 00:10:44,143
I've never been in a position
to be a starter

194
00:10:44,727 --> 00:10:46,062
every single night,

195
00:10:46,145 --> 00:10:48,856
but I'm willing to sacrifice
every single thing I got

196
00:10:48,939 --> 00:10:49,899
for this opportunity.

197
00:10:49,982 --> 00:10:52,777
100% certain that you guys
won't be disappointed at all.

198
00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:55,321
I think you'll be very, very happy
the trade was made.

199
00:10:55,404 --> 00:10:57,156
I can bring a lot to the table.

200
00:10:57,239 --> 00:11:00,660
I think Jermaine was really dedicated

201
00:11:00,743 --> 00:11:03,454
to trying to prove he was
one of the best players in the league.

202
00:11:03,537 --> 00:11:08,209
And he handled himself off the court
with that kind of confidence.

203
00:11:08,292 --> 00:11:12,088
You know,
he was kinda what the NBA wanted.

204
00:11:12,171 --> 00:11:16,050
I was kinda thinking,
not right away, but down the road,

205
00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:18,010
maybe he could replace Reggie.

206
00:11:18,094 --> 00:11:20,930
[Miller] He's definitely showing signs
he'd carry this franchise,

207
00:11:21,013 --> 00:11:23,432
and what I mean by that
is not the numbers he does,

208
00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:27,186
but I think the leadership he brings
to a lot of the younger guys in here.

209
00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:30,564
You have to outwork people.
Like, you just gotta be a savage.

210
00:11:32,149 --> 00:11:35,903
[Walsh] Jermaine, to me,
was a very unusual player for then.

211
00:11:36,737 --> 00:11:39,365
He can do a lot of big man things,

212
00:11:39,448 --> 00:11:41,867
but he can also
take people off the dribble,

213
00:11:42,451 --> 00:11:44,245
and he was very athletic.

214
00:11:44,328 --> 00:11:47,873
[commentator] O'Neal with a gorgeous
360 spin on Vlade Divac. Wow!

215
00:11:48,457 --> 00:11:50,042
-[crowd cheers]
-[whistle blows]

216
00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:54,213
[Miller] Jermaine was on the verge
of becoming a superstar in our game.

217
00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:57,883
And he was becoming
the face of the Indiana Pacers.

218
00:11:58,884 --> 00:12:04,807
[announcer] First-time NBA All-Star center
Jermaine O'Neal.

219
00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:07,268
[crowd cheering]

220
00:12:07,351 --> 00:12:09,311
Then I'm like, "Okay, I like it."

221
00:12:09,895 --> 00:12:12,356
I didn't care about minutes or points.

222
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,484
I wanted all these young guys
to do the bulk of the work.

223
00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:18,237
I wanted to win
a championship for Indiana.

224
00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,156
That's what it was all about for me.

225
00:12:22,992 --> 00:12:24,577
[buzzer sounds]

226
00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:26,704
[crowd cheering]

227
00:12:27,955 --> 00:12:29,331
My main focus,

228
00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:32,918
and it doesn't always take place
in one year,

229
00:12:33,002 --> 00:12:36,005
is get players that fit with each other.

230
00:12:36,088 --> 00:12:39,258
[inaudible]

231
00:12:46,807 --> 00:12:50,311
[Artest] When I got traded to Indiana,
I was on the bus going to the Miami game.

232
00:12:50,394 --> 00:12:52,396
They said, "Don't get off the bus."

233
00:12:53,647 --> 00:12:55,065
Uh, "You're traded."

234
00:12:56,484 --> 00:12:57,318
And I remember…

235
00:12:57,401 --> 00:13:00,321
You know, I never listen.
So, I got off the bus.

236
00:13:00,404 --> 00:13:02,406
And they said, "Don't get on the court."

237
00:13:02,907 --> 00:13:04,283
And I went on the court.

238
00:13:04,366 --> 00:13:05,201
[chuckles]

239
00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:07,036
And they said, "Get off the court."

240
00:13:07,578 --> 00:13:09,747
I said, "No,"
and I practiced for an hour.

241
00:13:10,831 --> 00:13:13,375
[newsman] In their first meeting
with the Indianapolis media today,

242
00:13:13,459 --> 00:13:15,211
the newest members of the Indiana Pacers

243
00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:17,922
expressed relief
over getting out of Chicago.

244
00:13:18,005 --> 00:13:21,425
[Artest] It feels good to be here
after a couple of years in Chicago losing,

245
00:13:22,134 --> 00:13:26,263
and, uh, it just was hard, you know.
I just wanna bring that winning effort.

246
00:13:26,847 --> 00:13:28,974
I didn't have a lot of trust with people

247
00:13:29,058 --> 00:13:33,145
just because of things
that I was going through and stuff.

248
00:13:34,104 --> 00:13:37,233
For me, it's enemies.
Everybody's an enemy to me, all the time.

249
00:13:39,193 --> 00:13:41,529
But once we step on the court,
I trust that.

250
00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:45,991
[Miller] I remember
the very first practice after the trade.

251
00:13:46,075 --> 00:13:48,494
That practice, which was three hours,

252
00:13:49,245 --> 00:13:51,497
I remember Jermaine coming up to me
and was like,

253
00:13:52,164 --> 00:13:54,083
"I don't know
if we've ever practiced this hard."

254
00:13:54,166 --> 00:13:57,169
And I'm like, "You're right.
I think this is gonna be good."

255
00:13:58,462 --> 00:14:00,756
[O'Neal] Ron was probably
the hardest worker

256
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,424
that I've ever seen in my life.

257
00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:06,679
I think he was probably
the most talented defensive player

258
00:14:06,762 --> 00:14:10,474
that we saw in an entire decade.

259
00:14:12,476 --> 00:14:14,478
Ron is different.

260
00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:16,689
But different isn't bad.

261
00:14:16,772 --> 00:14:19,733
Different is just sometimes unique.

262
00:14:20,985 --> 00:14:23,654
And Ron was unique in his talents.

263
00:14:24,905 --> 00:14:27,324
[crowd cheering]

264
00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:33,247
[Walsh] I'd never seen anybody
play as hard as he did.

265
00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:35,708
He was a force out there.

266
00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:39,587
-[whistle blows]
-[crowd] Oh!

267
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:42,756
When I step onto the court,
I'm just 100% in.

268
00:14:44,091 --> 00:14:46,719
Bring it to this.
Bring it to this. Bring it to this.

269
00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:52,641
Test me right here, it don't matter who.
You could be the biggest gangster.

270
00:14:52,725 --> 00:14:54,935
This is where we go. I'll die here.

271
00:14:55,019 --> 00:14:56,896
[inaudible]

272
00:14:58,355 --> 00:15:01,525
[Miller] Every team needs a Ron Artest.

273
00:15:02,276 --> 00:15:06,697
You need a guy
that everyone's a little bit afraid of.

274
00:15:07,239 --> 00:15:09,408
[commentator]
Hammered out of bounds by Artest.

275
00:15:09,491 --> 00:15:12,369
Now having words
with Heat assistant coach Keith Askins.

276
00:15:12,453 --> 00:15:13,579
[whistle blows]

277
00:15:13,662 --> 00:15:15,956
Wrong guy to pick with is Artest.

278
00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000
You know, that's, uh, that's who he is.

279
00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:20,377
Hell of a player,
but he's gotta get that under control.

280
00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:21,754
He would say to me,

281
00:15:21,837 --> 00:15:25,591
"Well, that's not fair.
They shouldn't be able to do that."

282
00:15:25,674 --> 00:15:29,136
I realized he's got
an exaggerated idea of justice.

283
00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:33,557
I just didn't like people.
I always had a chip.

284
00:15:36,018 --> 00:15:40,522
At the time, we had
the best interior defender in Jermaine,

285
00:15:41,649 --> 00:15:45,069
and we had
the best perimeter defender in Ron.

286
00:15:45,152 --> 00:15:47,112
[propulsive music playing]

287
00:15:47,196 --> 00:15:48,989
[crowd cheering]

288
00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:54,328
It was poetry in motion
at times when they were on the court.

289
00:15:54,411 --> 00:15:58,123
After I shut you down, if you do beat me,
then Jermaine will shut you down.

290
00:16:00,876 --> 00:16:03,963
We were also loose cannons mentally.
Yeah, me and Jermaine.

291
00:16:04,046 --> 00:16:07,091
Jermaine's a loose cannon,
but he kept it really tight.

292
00:16:07,174 --> 00:16:10,052
[whistle blowing]

293
00:16:10,135 --> 00:16:13,013
[O'Neal]
We had a lot of the same mentalities.

294
00:16:13,097 --> 00:16:16,558
Dog, hard-nosed, we gonna go get you.

295
00:16:17,893 --> 00:16:21,021
[crowd cheering]

296
00:16:21,105 --> 00:16:22,022
[whistle blows]

297
00:16:22,106 --> 00:16:24,650
And we just kinda started
blazing through teams.

298
00:16:29,071 --> 00:16:31,281
The Indiana Pacers, they are rolling.

299
00:16:31,365 --> 00:16:34,994
The Indiana Pacers
have the best record in the NBA.

300
00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:37,621
[newsman] Indiana Pacers,
best team in the league.

301
00:16:37,705 --> 00:16:41,125
[newsman 2] Indiana Pacers,
the team to beat in the East right now.

302
00:16:41,208 --> 00:16:43,836
You guys don't understand
how good we were.

303
00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:47,381
[crowd cheering]

304
00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:50,592
[O'Neal] We had the best record
in the league the whole year.

305
00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:52,302
Made it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

306
00:16:55,264 --> 00:16:58,308
I look back at it now,
and that was the series that ignited…

307
00:17:00,602 --> 00:17:01,729
everything.

308
00:17:03,063 --> 00:17:04,982
Detroit had incredible talent,

309
00:17:05,065 --> 00:17:07,276
and we knew
it was gonna be a tough scenario.

310
00:17:09,403 --> 00:17:13,323
[Miller] We were the two best teams,
defensively and offensively.

311
00:17:15,325 --> 00:17:18,787
So I knew whoever won this
was gonna win a championship.

312
00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:25,627
[crowd cheers]

313
00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:28,088
[whistle blows]

314
00:17:33,677 --> 00:17:34,553
[whistle blows]

315
00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:37,181
[crowd cheering]

316
00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:42,728
That series, they pushed us to the limit.

317
00:17:42,811 --> 00:17:44,605
[tense music plays]

318
00:17:45,606 --> 00:17:47,232
[whistle blows]

319
00:17:47,316 --> 00:17:48,734
In playoff basketball,

320
00:17:49,818 --> 00:17:51,904
the margin of error is this small.

321
00:17:51,987 --> 00:17:55,282
Everyone has
the physical capabilities. It's…

322
00:17:55,365 --> 00:17:57,451
[tense music continues]

323
00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:02,247
[commentator 1] Whoa!
Hamilton is fouled this time.

324
00:18:02,331 --> 00:18:04,083
[crowd booing]

325
00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,460
[commentator 2]
Artest may be thrown out of the game,

326
00:18:06,543 --> 00:18:08,712
but it's definitely gonna be a flagrant.

327
00:18:08,796 --> 00:18:10,547
[commentator 1]
That's just not a good move.

328
00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:13,175
[commentator 2]
This is a huge play for them.

329
00:18:13,258 --> 00:18:16,303
At this time in the game,
you can't lose your cool.

330
00:18:16,845 --> 00:18:18,347
It's just too crucial.

331
00:18:21,683 --> 00:18:23,685
You can't foul at the wrong time

332
00:18:23,769 --> 00:18:26,563
-and give your opponent an advantage.
-[buzzer sounds]

333
00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:28,941
[commentator]
And for the first time in 14 years,

334
00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:31,443
the Pistons go to the NBA Finals!

335
00:18:31,527 --> 00:18:34,780
They're the 2004
Eastern Conference champions!

336
00:18:34,863 --> 00:18:36,698
We lost game six in Detroit.

337
00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:38,033
[somber music plays]

338
00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:40,327
It's like somebody
sticking a knife into you.

339
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,204
The flagrant foul

340
00:18:42,704 --> 00:18:46,500
that took place with Ron Artest,
was that the difference in this game?

341
00:18:46,583 --> 00:18:48,752
Well, it certainly had an impact.

342
00:18:49,545 --> 00:18:51,922
You know, it was a tough call.

343
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,053
Yeah, I just put my forearm up,
you know what I'm saying? And, um…

344
00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,347
I think, uh…

345
00:19:00,430 --> 00:19:01,473
But the ref saw it.

346
00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:02,891
You know, he was, uh…

347
00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:05,352
Losing to Detroit in the Conference,
I remember.

348
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,356
Yeah. We should've went to the finals.
We should've definitely won.

349
00:19:09,439 --> 00:19:11,024
[somber music playing]

350
00:19:18,407 --> 00:19:21,201
When we lose that series,
who wins the championship?

351
00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:25,581
[commentator] The Detroit Pistons
have just shocked the Los Angeles Lakers.

352
00:19:25,664 --> 00:19:26,790
[crowd cheering]

353
00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:31,753
They were mentally tougher than we were.

354
00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:34,423
I'm like, "You guys!"

355
00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:36,425
[tense droning builds]

356
00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:37,968
It was just frustrating.

357
00:19:38,051 --> 00:19:40,012
-[droning fades]
-[birds chirping]

358
00:19:41,263 --> 00:19:43,473
[Artest] See you later. Love you.

359
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,561
Get out the garbage!

360
00:19:52,065 --> 00:19:54,818
The next year,
I knew something was wrong, like…

361
00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:59,615
I knew something was definitely wrong
and that I just needed to step back.

362
00:20:00,574 --> 00:20:02,576
I said, "I want my retirement papers,"

363
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:07,206
and the Pacers said,
"No, you gotta play." [chuckles]

364
00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,083
"You're under contract six more years."
[chuckles]

365
00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:13,629
I felt like Ronnie was coming out
with something like that every day.

366
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:15,255
One day he'd say,

367
00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:18,217
"I can't come to practice tomorrow.
I gotta do my music."

368
00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:20,260
As a man,
you gotta be able to do what you want.

369
00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:25,349
So if I decide to wanna leave the game
or take a month off, I'm a grown man.

370
00:20:25,432 --> 00:20:28,894
It doesn't make me crazy, you know,
to wanna do something I wanna do.

371
00:20:28,977 --> 00:20:31,480
If you're asking for time off
at the beginning of the year…

372
00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:34,524
I mean, dude,
we got six and a half months left,

373
00:20:34,608 --> 00:20:36,735
and you're asking for a timeout now?

374
00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:40,280
I still got my album coming out
November 23rd,

375
00:20:40,822 --> 00:20:43,659
and after the album comes out,
I'm gonna, uh,

376
00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:47,246
you know, make sure all my time
is focused on winning the championship.

377
00:20:47,329 --> 00:20:49,456
I had so much anxiety all the time.

378
00:20:49,539 --> 00:20:52,000
[tense music playing]

379
00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:53,710
You get that heart pumping.

380
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:58,465
It was something I couldn't control
at that time. It was every day. Every day.

381
00:20:58,548 --> 00:21:01,260
[tense music continues]

382
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:05,180
So, I was like, "I really do need
to try to figure out what's wrong."

383
00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:08,308
"Why are you not happy
around basketball and your teammates?"

384
00:21:08,809 --> 00:21:12,020
"Why are you not happy?
Figure it out, figure it out."

385
00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:16,358
I was already in therapy,
but you don't get better overnight.

386
00:21:17,442 --> 00:21:21,697
You know, we knew he had a psychiatrist
that… that traveled everywhere we went.

387
00:21:22,781 --> 00:21:25,784
We knew he had sessions
that he had to have with her.

388
00:21:25,867 --> 00:21:26,994
We knew that much,

389
00:21:27,577 --> 00:21:33,166
but we were never, ever, you know,
told that he had a certain issue,

390
00:21:33,250 --> 00:21:34,251
medical issue.

391
00:21:34,334 --> 00:21:36,420
I had depression and anxiety.

392
00:21:36,503 --> 00:21:40,465
I would be depressed about certain things
and have anxiety about future things.

393
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:43,635
Some people have control
over their emotions. I don't.

394
00:21:44,386 --> 00:21:47,973
If really I'm excited, happy,
I've just dunked on somebody, game-winner,

395
00:21:49,016 --> 00:21:51,393
that emotional level
is not a good place for me.

396
00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:54,479
Positively or negatively,
you have no control of that.

397
00:21:54,563 --> 00:21:56,606
Come on! The fuck you all doing?

398
00:21:57,899 --> 00:22:00,235
I'm not gonna do this with you!
Come on, my nigga!

399
00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:02,446
Get your motherfucking security right!

400
00:22:02,529 --> 00:22:03,989
[man] We got a fight back here.

401
00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:06,366
[man 2] You gotta chill.

402
00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:10,162
At times, Ron could be a little edgy.

403
00:22:10,245 --> 00:22:15,125
And the dynamic
between Jermaine and Ron was unsettling.

404
00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:18,211
I think the final straw for us

405
00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:20,505
was when he said
he had a death in his family

406
00:22:20,589 --> 00:22:22,007
and went to the Source Awards.

407
00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:24,885
[announcer] Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome the Tru Warier

408
00:22:24,968 --> 00:22:28,680
Ron Artest and Petey Pablo!

409
00:22:30,098 --> 00:22:32,017
You were saying
you were going away for a funeral,

410
00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,019
then three or four days later,

411
00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:38,065
we turn the TV on and you're presenting
an award at an award show,

412
00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:40,067
and we ain't seen you
in three or four days.

413
00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,276
And the winner is…

414
00:22:41,943 --> 00:22:44,279
I don't know what I'm doing up here.
It's all good though.

415
00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:46,782
I felt I was trying to escape.

416
00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:50,077
I was trying to find any way to escape.
Definitely.

417
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,829
I'm not gonna answer
any more questions about Ron.

418
00:22:52,913 --> 00:22:55,624
Ron doesn't wanna be here.
Ron doesn't matter anymore.

419
00:22:55,707 --> 00:22:58,502
It's about the Pacers,
the players that suit up every single day.

420
00:22:58,585 --> 00:23:01,546
I'm tired of answering questions
about Ron.

421
00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:03,548
I'm pleading with these guys.

422
00:23:03,632 --> 00:23:05,425
"Get on the same page!"

423
00:23:06,968 --> 00:23:10,138
I could not get them
to understand the opportunity.

424
00:23:12,307 --> 00:23:14,017
[Artest] I never listened to Reggie.

425
00:23:14,101 --> 00:23:18,230
So any time he's, like,
giving me leadership and mentorship,

426
00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:21,274
I'm thinking, "Bust his ass in practice."

427
00:23:23,735 --> 00:23:26,029
I know that we're putting together

428
00:23:26,613 --> 00:23:31,243
young guys who could rub each other wrong,

429
00:23:31,326 --> 00:23:33,995
but, you know, I really wanted to win,

430
00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,998
and I was looking
for one final piece of the team.

431
00:23:38,667 --> 00:23:40,919
And that's why
I made the trade for Stephen.

432
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,598
[Jackson] I remember getting that call
from Donnie Walsh and Larry Bird.

433
00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:56,518
I had to put 'em on speakerphone
'cause I'm on the block.

434
00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:58,937
I'm on 3200 with all my homeboys.

435
00:23:59,688 --> 00:24:00,522
[indistinct]

436
00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,816
"Welcome to the Indiana Pacers,"
duh-duh-duh.

437
00:24:02,899 --> 00:24:04,818
You know, it was a great moment.

438
00:24:04,901 --> 00:24:07,279
When he said, "Welcome to…"
all my homeboys get to running.

439
00:24:07,362 --> 00:24:08,196
Just, "Oh!"

440
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,283
And I knew the opportunity was…
was priceless.

441
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:12,868
[Miller] When Stephen came,

442
00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:17,038
it was the best thing for us,
because now we got Jermaine, Ron,

443
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:21,168
and now you're bringing in another tough,
somewhat crazy dude in Stephen Jackson.

444
00:24:21,251 --> 00:24:23,837
Everything has to come through Indiana.
There's no secret.

445
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,465
They gotta come through us
to get to where they wanna be.

446
00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:28,758
And I-I-I think we're the team to beat.

447
00:24:28,842 --> 00:24:31,178
We have all the pieces.
We gotta put 'em together.

448
00:24:31,261 --> 00:24:32,679
[reporter] A challenge you relish.

449
00:24:32,762 --> 00:24:35,557
Yeah. I'm ready for a challenge.
That's what I live for.

450
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,975
-I make love to pressure.
-[laughs]

451
00:24:37,058 --> 00:24:37,934
That's what I do.

452
00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:41,104
Me and him was, like,
we both kinda street.

453
00:24:41,188 --> 00:24:44,274
So we're arguing
about who's gonna guard the best guy,

454
00:24:44,357 --> 00:24:46,026
like, almost come to blows.

455
00:24:46,776 --> 00:24:48,945
Then I'm like,
"All right, Steve, you got it."

456
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:50,989
So I'm like, "This guy is crazy!" [laughs]

457
00:24:51,072 --> 00:24:54,534
We got a lot of similarities,
but we're totally different.

458
00:24:54,618 --> 00:24:57,037
I knew he was a little off.
You know what I mean?

459
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,873
But he was a hell of a basketball player.

460
00:24:59,956 --> 00:25:02,626
And that's all…
I didn't judge nothing else but that.

461
00:25:02,709 --> 00:25:05,921
I didn't care. I was weird.
I did my own thing. I smoked weed all day.

462
00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:08,590
Guys like me and Ron,
we look at basketball as our life.

463
00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:11,218
This is all we can do.
God gave me this gift to help my family,

464
00:25:11,301 --> 00:25:12,886
to get out of the situation I was in.

465
00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:18,934
[O'Neal] Jack is a very aggressive person.
We have a lot of similar traits.

466
00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:22,604
He would turn that volume up very quickly
and tell you about it.

467
00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:25,106
He's down for the cause.

468
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:29,486
I'm a loyal guy. Like, one thing about it.
If I'm with you, I'm with you, you know.

469
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:33,156
We shoot this, and we go to a bar
afterwards, somebody say something,

470
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,534
I'll be the first one to stand up.
That's how I am.

471
00:25:35,617 --> 00:25:36,952
If I'm with you, I'm with you.

472
00:25:37,577 --> 00:25:38,828
I was the missing piece.

473
00:25:39,579 --> 00:25:41,164
That's basically what they were saying.

474
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:43,708
I was the missing piece
to the championship team.

475
00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:46,795
[Miller] There's only a handful of teams
that can say,

476
00:25:47,754 --> 00:25:49,464
"We have a shot to win the championship."

477
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,508
Out of my 18 years,

478
00:25:51,591 --> 00:25:53,843
that season, we were loaded for bear.

479
00:25:53,927 --> 00:25:55,136
This was our year.

480
00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:58,682
[commentator] This is the Showdown
of the East we've been waiting for.

481
00:25:58,765 --> 00:26:02,352
A rivalry that's been brewing
long before this season ever started.

482
00:26:02,435 --> 00:26:05,480
Two teams, similar styles,
only one survivor.

483
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:08,149
[uneasy music playing]

484
00:26:12,153 --> 00:26:15,156
[Artest] Going into the Palace,
we was already seven and two.

485
00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:18,618
I knew that was the game I wanted
more than any game.

486
00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:21,788
But I didn't know
what was gonna actually happen.

487
00:26:21,871 --> 00:26:23,832
We were coming in there
to make a statement.

488
00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:27,335
"Yeah, y'all got the chip,
but we're letting y'all know

489
00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:30,171
y'all gonna be seeing us this year."

490
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:31,923
-Where we from?
-[all] Detroit!

491
00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:33,967
-Where we from?
-[all] Detroit!

492
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:36,177
Detroit was one
of the hardest places to play.

493
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:37,929
They don't make it easy for you.

494
00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:40,390
[crowd cheering]

495
00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:42,350
Whoo! Yeah!

496
00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:43,977
Yeah!

497
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:47,272
Obviously, um, you know,
we're facing a tough challenge

498
00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:49,858
going into a… uh, going into the Palace.

499
00:26:50,650 --> 00:26:53,028
They have a rabid fan base.

500
00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:56,948
Very faithful and admiring fans.

501
00:26:57,949 --> 00:26:59,909
Um, and very boisterous at times.

502
00:26:59,993 --> 00:27:04,247
Yeah! Number one, baby! Number one!

503
00:27:04,331 --> 00:27:06,166
Yeah! That's what I'm talking about!

504
00:27:06,249 --> 00:27:09,210
The fans were a huge part
of a lot of the success,

505
00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:13,214
because even though you're on the court,
you can hear those fans going crazy.

506
00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:16,343
When we would come into the gym,
we knew the Pistons were gonna win.

507
00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:18,178
We just didn't know by how much.

508
00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:19,929
[tense music playing]

509
00:27:23,683 --> 00:27:26,811
Any time you put 20,000 people together
for four or five hours,

510
00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:27,979
and they're drinking,

511
00:27:29,272 --> 00:27:30,231
the stage is set.

512
00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:32,442
Somewhere, somebody's gonna have an issue.

513
00:27:32,525 --> 00:27:35,820
There was a couple of guys that
we were gonna remove their season tickets.

514
00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:38,239
We kinda had enough
of their, uh, shenanigans.

515
00:27:39,115 --> 00:27:42,285
It was a Friday night.
We didn't have to work Saturday,

516
00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:45,455
so it was kinda like, you know,
you kind of enjoyed it more.

517
00:27:45,538 --> 00:27:49,584
Have a few drinks, hang out with friends.
Kinda like treating myself.

518
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,129
Charlie's a fan.
Uh, he was a season ticket holder.

519
00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:56,216
And he had issues that night.
And so, we were…

520
00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:01,262
going to address it with him that we were
taking away his season tickets that night.

521
00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:03,848
We would normally probably work
the Pistons games

522
00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:05,392
two, three times a month.

523
00:28:05,475 --> 00:28:08,019
On that day,
we were assigned on the east side.

524
00:28:08,103 --> 00:28:11,314
I think we had some rivalry
with Indiana, I think, as well,

525
00:28:11,398 --> 00:28:13,733
and the crowds were pretty charged up.

526
00:28:13,817 --> 00:28:16,486
Everybody in the NBA wants one of these.

527
00:28:16,569 --> 00:28:18,697
This is what they play for,
a championship ring.

528
00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:20,824
[Gray] I was there
to broadcast the game for ESPN.

529
00:28:20,907 --> 00:28:22,367
Indiana was a terrific team.

530
00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:24,285
They were championship contenders

531
00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:27,330
and may have, at that time,
been the best team in the NBA.

532
00:28:28,873 --> 00:28:30,583
But Detroit was a good team.

533
00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:31,918
[tense music playing]

534
00:28:32,001 --> 00:28:33,461
They were a really good team.

535
00:28:34,629 --> 00:28:36,172
[tense music continues]

536
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:39,050
[Miller] I had broke my finger,
so I was in a cast.

537
00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:41,261
Stephen was moved to the shooting guard.

538
00:28:41,761 --> 00:28:45,265
I didn't know the magnitude of the rivalry
that I was walking into.

539
00:28:45,348 --> 00:28:48,351
You gotta thing, they was wrestling
with this team all last year

540
00:28:48,435 --> 00:28:51,396
in the Eastern Conference Finals,
about to go to blows.

541
00:28:51,479 --> 00:28:53,648
It was absolutely a statement game for us.

542
00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:55,942
This is our moment,
and let's leave no doubt.

543
00:28:57,652 --> 00:28:59,279
[Wallace] They felt that was their year,

544
00:28:59,362 --> 00:29:01,531
and we felt like
we had to defend our title.

545
00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:04,909
I remember that night.
The Palace was electrifying.

546
00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:05,827
Man, it was…

547
00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:09,164
It was almost like having
an out-of-body experience.

548
00:29:09,247 --> 00:29:11,875
You could feel the hair stand up
on the back of your neck.

549
00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:13,543
[tense music continues]

550
00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:20,341
[Donaghy] Whenever you go
into a nationally televised game,

551
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,427
there's a different roar in the arena.

552
00:29:22,510 --> 00:29:24,846
There's more lights. There's more cameras.

553
00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:28,099
You know, they're real careful
who gets assigned games like that

554
00:29:28,183 --> 00:29:30,769
because they want
not to be embarrassed as a league.

555
00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:33,313
Nobody liked refereeing the Pistons
back then.

556
00:29:33,396 --> 00:29:35,356
You knew you were in for a rough night.

557
00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:40,528
When you have Ben Wallace,
Stephen Jackson, Ron Artest,

558
00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:43,281
I mean, that's just
a recipe for disaster right there.

559
00:29:44,532 --> 00:29:45,867
[crowd cheering]

560
00:29:47,285 --> 00:29:51,998
Basketball fans from around
the great state of Michigan,

561
00:29:52,081 --> 00:29:55,794
and those of you here at the Palace
from across the world,

562
00:29:55,877 --> 00:29:57,837
stay on your feet.

563
00:29:57,921 --> 00:30:02,592
-["The Final Countdown" playing]
-Time to meet and greet the ballers

564
00:30:02,675 --> 00:30:06,805
representing the D… troit Pistons!

565
00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:09,599
[O'Neal] They had
the most dynamic announcer. Right?

566
00:30:09,682 --> 00:30:14,354
And it gasses you, where you saying,
"Look, I'm at your ass today, Detroit."

567
00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:22,320
[announcer] At 6'9", the center,
wearing the big red three,

568
00:30:22,403 --> 00:30:27,909
B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-Ben
[trills lips] Wallace!

569
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,162
I remember they did the Ben Wallace
introduction. That got me hyped.

570
00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:34,082
That got me hyped.
Like, "Let's bust they ass. Fuck that."

571
00:30:35,458 --> 00:30:36,835
[crowd cheering]

572
00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:41,297
At the time, I didn't know
Ben Wallace lost his brother.

573
00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:45,093
Having that energy, you know, it was…

574
00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:46,594
[inhales]

575
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:51,933
I knew I couldn't put that energy
nowhere else but into basketball.

576
00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:54,352
It was like a powder keg.

577
00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:58,273
[commentator 1] A fun matchup to watch
during the regular season.

578
00:30:58,356 --> 00:31:00,942
We can only hope
they'll meet again in the playoffs.

579
00:31:01,609 --> 00:31:04,863
Pistons so far perfect at home.
Another packed house at the Palace.

580
00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:08,116
Going into that game,
I thought we could beat Detroit,

581
00:31:08,199 --> 00:31:10,785
and I wanted to see
if this type of team would work.

582
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:12,912
[commentator 1 continues indistinctly]

583
00:31:12,996 --> 00:31:14,247
[tense music playing]

584
00:31:14,831 --> 00:31:15,748
[commentator 2] O'Neal.

585
00:31:16,457 --> 00:31:20,587
[commentator 1] Artest steps back…
Oh, what a quarter for Ron Artest.

586
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:21,880
Four-tenths of a…

587
00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:25,091
Even though at that time I was struggling,
I was playing great.

588
00:31:26,801 --> 00:31:30,054
The game was a beatdown.
We dominated from beginning to end.

589
00:31:30,138 --> 00:31:33,141
-Ron dominated. Nobody couldn't stop him.
-[whistle blows]

590
00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:36,019
Two, three, four guards
couldn't guard Ron at the time.

591
00:31:36,102 --> 00:31:39,939
He was too agile. He was definitely
the best player on the court.

592
00:31:40,023 --> 00:31:43,443
We were up double digits,
and my young boys were jawing.

593
00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:46,070
They were clicking.

594
00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:47,947
Ron and Jermaine.

595
00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:50,116
It's good Ron, and it's good Jermaine.

596
00:31:51,242 --> 00:31:52,619
It was fantastic.

597
00:31:52,702 --> 00:31:54,913
[tense music continues]

598
00:31:57,206 --> 00:31:59,751
This is our moment.
It's our coming-out party.

599
00:31:59,834 --> 00:32:01,920
We came in with a different type of swag.

600
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:05,882
Stephen's like… he's so clutch.

601
00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:10,887
I'm like,
"Wow, this guy makes every big shot."

602
00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:12,221
"Wow."

603
00:32:12,305 --> 00:32:14,349
[commentator speaking indistinctly]

604
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,478
We knew right away we was the best team.

605
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:21,940
We were kicking their ass.

606
00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:25,985
They put a championship team together.
It was obvious.

607
00:32:26,069 --> 00:32:28,112
[tense music continues]

608
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:37,830
'Cause we were beating them down,

609
00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:41,209
the normal ticket holders were gone.

610
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:42,251
They had left.

611
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:47,799
So it was the people
that were trickling their way down

612
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:53,513
that were probably already liquored up,
coming on down to fill those seats.

613
00:32:55,098 --> 00:32:58,226
Oh, man, very disrespectful,
like, the way they did it.

614
00:32:58,309 --> 00:33:01,270
The game was almost over.
They had starters out there playing.

615
00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:03,272
They were up by 15, 20 points.

616
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:06,067
[commentator]
Oh! Wallace with a terrific block!

617
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:07,360
That's not a foul.

618
00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:12,365
At the end of the game, we're up by 15.
In my mind, the game's over.

619
00:33:13,282 --> 00:33:14,867
Jamaal Tinsley tells Ron,

620
00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:18,246
"You can get your foul now."
Ron looked at him like, "Huh?"

621
00:33:18,329 --> 00:33:19,914
"You can get your foul now."

622
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:23,001
You got your foul. You can go now, right?
All right?

623
00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:24,836
Why are you even telling him that?

624
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:28,506
Ron doesn't need a battery in his back
to do something crazy.

625
00:33:28,589 --> 00:33:30,925
[commentator]
Artest with 24, O'Neal at 20,

626
00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:33,594
Croshere 15, Tinsley 13.

627
00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:36,055
[Jackson]
As we're running back, I guard Ben.

628
00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:39,183
When they throw him the ball,
I'm not gonna try to play defense on him.

629
00:33:39,267 --> 00:33:41,019
I'm not even gonna try to foul him.

630
00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:44,230
-[Artest] He was going for a layup.
-[commentator] Oh!

631
00:33:44,313 --> 00:33:46,899
I didn't want him to get the layup,
so I pushed him.

632
00:33:46,983 --> 00:33:51,029
It was too hard of a foul
at that point in time during the game.

633
00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:53,239
-[whistle blowing]
-[crowd cheers]

634
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:57,201
[commentator]
Oh, Wallace! Right at Artest!

635
00:33:57,285 --> 00:34:00,580
This has potential to be serious
if they don't get between them.

636
00:34:00,663 --> 00:34:04,125
Wallace upset.
Players trying to hold each other off.

637
00:34:04,959 --> 00:34:07,795
Stephen Jackson, and we see Wallace
trying to be peacemaker.

638
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,047
Now Jackson yelling…

639
00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:12,175
[Miller] The dust-up
I have no problem with.

640
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,678
That happens all the time.
The pushing, the shoving…

641
00:34:15,762 --> 00:34:17,430
You know, that's all fake.

642
00:34:17,513 --> 00:34:19,891
Most of the time,
nobody in the NBA wanna fight.

643
00:34:19,974 --> 00:34:22,935
It has to be real disrespectful shit
for somebody to throw punches.

644
00:34:23,019 --> 00:34:24,729
[commentator] …in here to get him away.

645
00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:26,272
[indistinct yelling]

646
00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:27,815
Where it all turned

647
00:34:28,983 --> 00:34:32,737
is when Ron went
and laid on the scorer's table.

648
00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:34,530
[indistinct yelling]

649
00:34:34,614 --> 00:34:36,365
[tense music playing]

650
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:39,952
Went over and laid down,
which is not normal.

651
00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:42,246
It's not normal
to lay down on the scorer's table.

652
00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:44,290
That's crazy, too, you know?

653
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:48,461
That's… That's…
That's almost worse than the foul.

654
00:34:48,544 --> 00:34:50,254
[indistinct yelling and commotion]

655
00:34:51,297 --> 00:34:54,675
[Artest] I was already in therapy.
So I was practicing in real time.

656
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:57,011
One thing was take five, right?

657
00:34:57,095 --> 00:34:59,972
So if something happens,
you're like, "One, two, three…"

658
00:35:00,056 --> 00:35:03,518
Before you do anything, just count,
'cause then you get more time to think.

659
00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:07,313
[indistinct yelling]

660
00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:09,524
[Artest] My team was all around me.

661
00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:14,487
It was funny
'cause I felt like I was a big dog, like…

662
00:35:15,404 --> 00:35:17,448
I did feel like my team got…

663
00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:18,658
I know my team,

664
00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:24,580
so I know, like, Jermaine's not gonna
just let Ben come over and touch me.

665
00:35:24,664 --> 00:35:28,126
I know that for a fact.
Like, I got Steve Jackson.

666
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:32,755
I'm like, "All right, Cool.
I don't need to do nothing. I'm fine."

667
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:34,382
[indistinct yelling]

668
00:35:35,508 --> 00:35:37,218
[commentator] Wallace is still charged up.

669
00:35:37,301 --> 00:35:40,179
Now, Wallace, I would assume,
has been ejected.

670
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:44,851
Ben wore, like, 10,000 armbands
and headbands and wrist bands,

671
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936
and he started throwing things.

672
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,440
[crowd clamoring]

673
00:35:56,571 --> 00:35:58,906
[Donaghy] Saw him throwing
the headband and the wristbands.

674
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:00,992
He definitely was losing his temper.

675
00:36:02,118 --> 00:36:02,994
[inaudible]

676
00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:09,500
The fans don't know
the majority of us are actually friends,

677
00:36:09,584 --> 00:36:12,753
so they think
that this is a real street brawl scenario.

678
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:18,759
So however you react, they're gonna react.

679
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:21,220
If you do this,
what do you think they gonna do?

680
00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:24,182
If you do this,
what do you think they gonna do?

681
00:36:25,474 --> 00:36:27,393
The crowd feeds off the players.

682
00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:30,146
Out of the corner of my eye,

683
00:36:31,898 --> 00:36:32,940
I see it coming.

684
00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:38,571
Super slo-mo. Like, it just…

685
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:43,284
It just… Everybody was supposed to see it.
That's how slow it went.

686
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:45,161
[disturbing droning]

687
00:36:48,372 --> 00:36:49,207
[Miller] Bam!

688
00:36:50,499 --> 00:36:53,211
[commentator] Now Artest
has jumped over the scorer's table

689
00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:55,379
and is trying to get down to the bench!

690
00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:57,965
Artest is in the stands!

691
00:36:58,633 --> 00:37:00,801
Oh, this is awful.
Fans are getting involved.

692
00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:02,678
Once I saw him go, I went.

693
00:37:02,762 --> 00:37:04,222
He needed aid.

694
00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:08,100
As I get to him, another beer is thrown
in his face. And that's the guy I…

695
00:37:08,684 --> 00:37:10,728
[commentator]
Stephen Jackson's in the fans.

696
00:37:11,479 --> 00:37:14,649
The security trying
to somehow restore order.

697
00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:18,903
Fans and players are going at it!
The players trying to help each other out!

698
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:21,280
Rasheed Wallace going into the stands!

699
00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,532
[crowd clamoring]

700
00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:26,410
[commentator] This is a disgrace.

701
00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:28,120
[disturbing droning continues]

702
00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:32,875
All the players, they're jumping in there
to try and get the other players out

703
00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:34,877
because the fans have become involved.

704
00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:36,420
[all yelling]

705
00:37:40,967 --> 00:37:43,886
[commentator]
Oh, what a sad scene here at the Palace.

706
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:46,681
[Artest] Walking down the stands,
I'm thinking, "It's good."

707
00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:49,475
I didn't think anything else
was gonna happen at all.

708
00:37:49,558 --> 00:37:51,143
I thought it was gonna be over.

709
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:55,564
[O'Neal] I just stopped and paused,
and I just started looking.

710
00:37:56,357 --> 00:37:57,900
"Where is the security at?"

711
00:37:59,777 --> 00:38:02,613
There was no police.
I didn't see a policeman in the building.

712
00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:05,866
I didn't see any security.
There was nobody there to stop this.

713
00:38:06,492 --> 00:38:10,246
Everybody was everywhere.
I mean, it was just like a melee.

714
00:38:10,329 --> 00:38:12,540
And then,
they were pushing us towards the exit.

715
00:38:12,623 --> 00:38:14,583
Somehow, I got on the court.

716
00:38:17,211 --> 00:38:20,047
I remember being shocked,
like I'd seen an alien, like…

717
00:38:21,007 --> 00:38:24,218
"This guy, uh,
coming to the court to fight?"

718
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:26,387
'Cause at that point, I'm fed up.

719
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,348
I'm trying not to fight,
but these guys are giving me a reason…

720
00:38:29,432 --> 00:38:30,433
This is my comfort zone.

721
00:38:30,516 --> 00:38:33,728
You wouldn't in your right mind walk down
on the court and think it's a good idea

722
00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:35,980
to take on Ron Artest
after he's been in the stands.

723
00:38:36,063 --> 00:38:37,398
[crowd yelling]

724
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:40,151
[commentator]
Oh, what a sad scene here at the Palace.

725
00:38:40,234 --> 00:38:41,110
[crowd yelling]

726
00:38:41,193 --> 00:38:42,945
[commentator]
Now another fight's breaking out

727
00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:44,530
in front of the Pistons bench.

728
00:38:45,489 --> 00:38:46,532
It's a fan.

729
00:38:46,615 --> 00:38:48,951
This is very, very dangerous.

730
00:38:50,578 --> 00:38:51,704
Fans are throwing…

731
00:38:51,787 --> 00:38:53,080
[crowd yelling]

732
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:54,957
[tense music playing]

733
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:57,501
I didn't see him coming at all.
Sucker punched me.

734
00:38:58,044 --> 00:38:59,837
You know, quite a…

735
00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:03,215
bitch move, tell you the truth.

736
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:06,969
I just all-out sprint over there
to try to help him.

737
00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:09,096
[crowd yelling]

738
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,973
[Miller] He slipped. Thank God.

739
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:15,644
It was the best miss of Jermaine's career.

740
00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:17,271
[tense music continues]

741
00:39:20,983 --> 00:39:23,527
'Cause if Jemaine would've connected
on that punch…

742
00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,029
[crowd yelling]

743
00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:28,741
…that fan would have been dead.

744
00:39:28,824 --> 00:39:30,701
[commentator] …now onto the court.

745
00:39:30,785 --> 00:39:31,952
[crowd yelling]

746
00:39:32,036 --> 00:39:35,498
Ron Artest has a look in his eye
that's very scary right now.

747
00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:40,419
The scariest moment was once I realized
how out of control this got

748
00:39:40,503 --> 00:39:41,962
and how much further it's gonna go.

749
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:55,434
[distant siren wails]

750
00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:03,150
At the time,
we had three officers on the court.

751
00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:05,653
Not the best odds against 20,000 people.

752
00:40:06,445 --> 00:40:07,613
It was out of control.

753
00:40:07,696 --> 00:40:11,117
That's why the decision was
we need to get the players off the court.

754
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,120
If we get them off the court,
the fans will calm down.

755
00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:15,663
[tense music continues]

756
00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:18,457
[Miller] An officer runs up
from behind me,

757
00:40:18,541 --> 00:40:20,876
and he has his mace thing out,

758
00:40:21,877 --> 00:40:25,005
and he's getting ready to mace Ron.

759
00:40:25,798 --> 00:40:27,758
[all yelling]

760
00:40:31,178 --> 00:40:34,807
I had no intention of spraying Ron Artest.
He was already down on the floor.

761
00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:36,475
He had… He looked wore out.

762
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,353
At some point,
I ran across Reggie Miller in a suit.

763
00:40:39,437 --> 00:40:42,690
And I… At the time, I didn't know
he was Reggie Miller or a player

764
00:40:42,773 --> 00:40:45,234
'cause he was in a suit.
I'm asking him what is he doing.

765
00:40:45,317 --> 00:40:47,903
How you not know
Reggie Miller's on the Indiana Pacers?

766
00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:50,448
[tense music continues]

767
00:40:50,531 --> 00:40:52,074
[inaudible]

768
00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:55,286
[Miller] I grabbed the officer.
Like, "What are you doing?"

769
00:40:55,369 --> 00:40:59,582
I was like, "Go get all these people
off the court. Don't be macing him."

770
00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:02,168
[yelling indistinctly]

771
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:05,379
That's when I really got pissed off.

772
00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:09,467
Like, y'all are not trying to help us.
It's really 15 against 30,000.

773
00:41:10,259 --> 00:41:13,429
[commentator] They're trying to get
the Pacers to go back to the locker room.

774
00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:15,055
[crowd yelling]

775
00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:17,933
[Miller] We all grab Ron,
and we start to run.

776
00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:23,147
[O'Neal] You see everybody merge
to one area.

777
00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:26,859
And they throwing everything
they can get their hands on.

778
00:41:26,942 --> 00:41:28,402
[crowd yelling]

779
00:41:30,237 --> 00:41:31,739
[tense music continues]

780
00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:37,703
[music intensifies]

781
00:41:37,786 --> 00:41:41,999
[commentator] Now these ridiculous fans
trying to go at the players and throwing…

782
00:41:42,082 --> 00:41:43,083
[crowd yelling]

783
00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:45,252
[commentator]
Somebody could really get hurt.

784
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,379
[angry yelling]

785
00:41:47,463 --> 00:41:50,341
[commentator] This is a bad showing
from the Pistons fans.

786
00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:54,094
Just firing bottles from the stairs.

787
00:41:54,178 --> 00:41:55,554
All right, I'm good.

788
00:41:57,014 --> 00:41:59,934
-I can walk! I can walk!
-Okay!

789
00:42:01,727 --> 00:42:02,978
We ride together, fam!

790
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:06,357
[indistinct yelling]

791
00:42:06,857 --> 00:42:09,068
I remember saying to the camera,
"We ride together."

792
00:42:09,151 --> 00:42:11,737
We gonna always ride together.
That was my attitude.

793
00:42:11,820 --> 00:42:14,240
I was happy that I helped my brother down.

794
00:42:14,323 --> 00:42:16,659
I was happy
I was able to come to my brother's aid.

795
00:42:16,742 --> 00:42:18,911
You can see that in my face
in the locker room.

796
00:42:18,994 --> 00:42:22,206
I was happy with what we did.
I was there for my brother. Yes!

797
00:42:22,289 --> 00:42:24,875
-[reporter] Tell me your name, sir.
-Charlie Haddad.

798
00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:28,754
He hit me in the face. I'm still hurt.
I need X-rays on my whole face.

799
00:42:28,837 --> 00:42:30,381
I don't even know what's going on.

800
00:42:30,464 --> 00:42:32,174
You gotta stop, you gotta stop.

801
00:42:32,258 --> 00:42:34,426
[man] Take it outside.
You can't be in here.

802
00:42:35,761 --> 00:42:38,931
After I get hit, we left
and went through a different room,

803
00:42:39,014 --> 00:42:40,683
like they were protecting me.

804
00:42:40,766 --> 00:42:43,102
They started bringing people
into my office.

805
00:42:43,185 --> 00:42:45,062
A couple of them were like,
"This would be funny

806
00:42:45,145 --> 00:42:48,232
if one of us, you know,
hurt ourselves and we can sue."

807
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:49,942
[sirens wailing]

808
00:42:52,194 --> 00:42:54,029
[tense music continues]

809
00:42:58,117 --> 00:43:01,704
I remember looking. I see people rocking
chairs, trying to get the chairs loose.

810
00:43:01,787 --> 00:43:03,247
[crowd yelling indistinctly]

811
00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:08,794
The arena closed in on us very quick.

812
00:43:08,877 --> 00:43:11,630
The crowd was getting
a little bit, um, out of control.

813
00:43:11,714 --> 00:43:13,799
Somebody easily could grab your weapon.

814
00:43:13,882 --> 00:43:15,676
[crowd yelling]

815
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:21,181
[O'Neal] Then, all of a sudden,
I saw the chair up in the air.

816
00:43:21,682 --> 00:43:23,976
[crowd yelling]

817
00:43:24,059 --> 00:43:27,438
People were trying to hurt me and others.

818
00:43:27,521 --> 00:43:30,107
It was just a horrible, horrible scene.

819
00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:31,942
[crowd yelling]

820
00:43:32,026 --> 00:43:33,736
[tense music continues]

821
00:44:03,766 --> 00:44:05,309
[booing]

822
00:44:12,274 --> 00:44:14,276
[indistinct yelling]

823
00:44:14,777 --> 00:44:17,446
[somber music playing]

824
00:44:17,529 --> 00:44:20,157
[indistinct yelling]

825
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,660
[Miller] We get to the locker room,
and slowly but surely,

826
00:44:22,743 --> 00:44:27,081
everyone was starting to filter in
with their own stories.

827
00:44:27,164 --> 00:44:30,084
The whole time, I'm like,
"Jermaine is gonna kick my butt."

828
00:44:30,167 --> 00:44:31,126
The whole time.

829
00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:33,087
I didn't wanna see him.

830
00:44:33,962 --> 00:44:37,716
I knew he was gonna be pissed.
It's all about winning for Jermaine.

831
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,180
Ron, uh, leans over to me and asks me,
"Are we gonna get in trouble?"

832
00:44:45,974 --> 00:44:47,101
Said, "What you mean?"

833
00:44:47,726 --> 00:44:48,852
I just lost it.

834
00:44:49,561 --> 00:44:51,855
He charged Ron,
and we end up breaking it up.

835
00:44:51,939 --> 00:44:53,691
[indistinct yelling]

836
00:44:53,774 --> 00:44:58,445
I just needed confirmation
that it was kinda, like, over.

837
00:44:59,947 --> 00:45:00,781
Yeah.

838
00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:05,744
Then the police comes in
and trying to grab me to take me to jail.

839
00:45:07,538 --> 00:45:09,998
And I'm still…
Again, I'm on survival mode.

840
00:45:10,082 --> 00:45:13,127
I'm like, "Look, I'm not going with you."

841
00:45:13,919 --> 00:45:17,172
"I am getting on this bus
and getting on that plane,

842
00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:18,674
and I'm going home."

843
00:45:18,757 --> 00:45:20,175
"Reach out to my lawyers."

844
00:45:22,302 --> 00:45:23,429
[static crackles]

845
00:45:23,512 --> 00:45:27,766
The NBA and some of its fans achieved
a new level of outrageousness last night.

846
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:32,062
A fight broke out between the Pacer team
and the fans in the stands.

847
00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:35,315
…disgraceful brawl
at the Pacers-Pistons game in Detroit

848
00:45:35,399 --> 00:45:39,653
may be the ugliest act of pure hooliganism
in US sports history.

849
00:45:39,737 --> 00:45:41,989
Everybody talked about it.
Every show talked about it.

850
00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:44,241
ESPN played it every five minutes.

851
00:45:44,783 --> 00:45:49,371
It wasn't a brawl in Detroit Friday night.
It was a full-scale riot

852
00:45:49,455 --> 00:45:52,166
and one of the ugliest incidents
of player-fan violence

853
00:45:52,249 --> 00:45:53,709
we've ever seen in this country.

854
00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:56,462
The players,
paid gazillions of dollars here,

855
00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:59,006
these are guys
who have never had to follow the rules.

856
00:45:59,089 --> 00:46:02,509
They violated the number-one rule
for any professional athlete,

857
00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:05,721
and that is no matter what is said,
no matter what is thrown at you,

858
00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:07,723
you don't go into the stands.

859
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:09,933
The narrative had changed.

860
00:46:10,476 --> 00:46:13,228
It was all about us, the players.

861
00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:18,233
Ron, Steve, JO, it's their fault.
They were being thugs, acting out of line.

862
00:46:18,901 --> 00:46:21,653
Like, all of a sudden, my character

863
00:46:22,571 --> 00:46:23,655
is in question.

864
00:46:24,865 --> 00:46:27,743
It wasn't just the amount of people
that were saying it.

865
00:46:27,826 --> 00:46:30,788
It was the stature of the people
who were saying it.

866
00:46:30,871 --> 00:46:34,875
And it's tough to argue the certain thug
mentality hasn't crept into basketball.

867
00:46:34,958 --> 00:46:39,338
The thug image is there
until somebody excises it from the league.

868
00:46:39,421 --> 00:46:42,466
"These are thugs."
Literally, that's the word that he used.

869
00:46:42,549 --> 00:46:45,385
Everybody else signing off.
"Yeah, it's rap music…"

870
00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:46,970
Well, they're not saying that

871
00:46:47,054 --> 00:46:51,266
when hockey is beating the hell
out of each other for decades.

872
00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:54,937
The NBA says
it's fighting a bad boy image.

873
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:56,855
The tattoos, the fights, the drug busts.

874
00:46:56,939 --> 00:47:01,443
Are the media helping the NBA market this
as a kind of in-your-face, hip-hop sport?

875
00:47:01,527 --> 00:47:03,612
The hip-hop generation of players

876
00:47:03,695 --> 00:47:06,031
seeming to some
more estranged from the fans

877
00:47:06,114 --> 00:47:08,700
than the Magics and the Michaels
that preceded them.

878
00:47:08,784 --> 00:47:10,452
The dress code was immediate.

879
00:47:14,206 --> 00:47:17,626
It's the old famous saying. "Should have
never gave them niggas no money."

880
00:47:17,709 --> 00:47:20,963
There is real resentment
against some of today's major players.

881
00:47:21,046 --> 00:47:23,590
Many of the fans
consider them to be overpaid,

882
00:47:23,674 --> 00:47:27,261
underperforming, overly coddled,
and immature.

883
00:47:27,344 --> 00:47:31,723
Players have not learned how to…
how to act, in many cases,

884
00:47:31,807 --> 00:47:34,142
within a civilized, normal society.

885
00:47:34,226 --> 00:47:36,979
Television was putting pressure
on our league to say, "Hey, look,

886
00:47:37,062 --> 00:47:40,148
these guys are… are hoodlums,
these guys are out of control,

887
00:47:40,232 --> 00:47:41,859
these guys are this and that."

888
00:47:41,942 --> 00:47:45,571
The visual of NBA players
going into the stands and fighting

889
00:47:46,864 --> 00:47:50,033
goes around the world.
You have to stop that immediately.

890
00:47:50,117 --> 00:47:52,870
The NBA has been under heat
for a number of years

891
00:47:52,953 --> 00:47:54,204
and clearly has been hurt

892
00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:56,623
by this impression
a lot of its players give

893
00:47:56,707 --> 00:47:59,167
that they are, uh, gangster wannabes

894
00:47:59,251 --> 00:48:01,795
or, in some few cases, actual felons.

895
00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:05,340
Pressure on the NBA to clean up its ranks,

896
00:48:05,424 --> 00:48:08,343
send a message
that these guys are not a bunch of thugs.

897
00:48:08,427 --> 00:48:11,346
It's going to be real interesting
to see what the league does.

898
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:14,016
This is the type of publicity
they can't afford.

899
00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:17,728
Don't you think it's important
the NBA has to send a message…

900
00:48:17,811 --> 00:48:20,022
-A message will be sent.
-…send the strongest…

901
00:48:20,105 --> 00:48:22,691
-…possible message…
-…to make sure it doesn't happen again.

902
00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:26,153
[indistinct chattering]

903
00:48:27,571 --> 00:48:30,824
Today, I announce
the, uh, following suspensions,

904
00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:33,285
uh, resulting from the actions

905
00:48:33,368 --> 00:48:36,038
at the Indiana Pacers
and Detroit Pistons game

906
00:48:36,121 --> 00:48:37,497
on November 19th.

907
00:48:37,581 --> 00:48:38,665
[inhales deeply]

908
00:48:38,749 --> 00:48:43,128
Uh, Indiana's Ron Artest has been
suspended for the remainder of the season.

909
00:48:43,211 --> 00:48:45,130
[somber music playing]

910
00:48:45,213 --> 00:48:48,634
Indiana's Stephen Jackson
has been suspended for 30 games.

911
00:48:50,093 --> 00:48:54,514
Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal
has been suspended for 25 games.

912
00:48:55,474 --> 00:48:58,143
The NBA has handed out
unprecedented punishments

913
00:48:58,226 --> 00:49:00,729
to the players involved
in Friday night's basketball game.

914
00:49:00,812 --> 00:49:03,774
John, this may be
unprecedented punishment.

915
00:49:03,857 --> 00:49:05,400
The NBA just announcing

916
00:49:05,484 --> 00:49:07,486
that Ron Artest has been suspended

917
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:08,946
for the rest of the season.

918
00:49:09,029 --> 00:49:11,531
David Stern
was basically telling everyone,

919
00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:12,866
players and fans alike,

920
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:16,411
"This will not be tolerated. An incident
like this will not be tolerated again."

921
00:49:16,495 --> 00:49:20,457
Not one time have I thought
that I shouldn't be punished.

922
00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:24,711
But to 25 games? I ain't okay with that,
because everything I did,

923
00:49:26,129 --> 00:49:27,631
I had to do in protection.

924
00:49:27,714 --> 00:49:30,467
I wish I could have been interviewed
right after,

925
00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:33,637
'cause then people could have been like,
"He's right," "He's wrong."

926
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:37,182
There could have been way more opinions,
but the opinion was only on the film

927
00:49:37,891 --> 00:49:40,227
and the suspension,
and we had to be quiet.

928
00:49:40,310 --> 00:49:43,689
[O'Neal] I never had a conversation
with David Stern about it.

929
00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:45,857
The narrative was based on an edited…

930
00:49:47,609 --> 00:49:49,027
conclusion on ESPN.

931
00:49:49,111 --> 00:49:50,904
[somber music continues]

932
00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:53,949
Not even a fair trial of what it was.

933
00:49:54,032 --> 00:49:59,955
Commissioner Stern has wide power
in this situation, you know.

934
00:50:00,038 --> 00:50:02,916
Usually, in light of situations
where something like that occurs,

935
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,794
you have a situation
where an independent arbitrator comes in

936
00:50:05,877 --> 00:50:08,046
and negotiates between the two sides

937
00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:11,258
to reach a… reach an agreement
on some kind of punishment.

938
00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:14,511
But since this was an on-court issue,

939
00:50:14,594 --> 00:50:18,306
the third arbitrator is…
There is no third arbitrator.

940
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:21,268
It is Commissioner David Stern.
It comes to his doorstep.

941
00:50:21,351 --> 00:50:22,352
He's the final word.

942
00:50:22,436 --> 00:50:24,896
-It'll be interesting to see…
-Such a deal. I like that deal.

943
00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:26,523
You get to call the shots.

944
00:50:26,606 --> 00:50:28,358
-You get to review the shots.
-Exactly.

945
00:50:28,442 --> 00:50:31,903
[reporter] The decision to suspend Artest
for the entire season, was that unanimous?

946
00:50:31,987 --> 00:50:33,363
-It was.
-[reporter] Why?

947
00:50:33,447 --> 00:50:34,656
It was unanimous.

948
00:50:37,409 --> 00:50:38,368
One-nothing.

949
00:50:40,996 --> 00:50:44,041
[interviewer] It seemed at first,
this was a complex situation,

950
00:50:44,124 --> 00:50:47,502
but then it suddenly became
very black-and-white.

951
00:50:47,586 --> 00:50:48,920
What do you think changed?

952
00:50:49,004 --> 00:50:51,673
-You know why it changed, right?
-[interviewer] Why did it change?

953
00:50:51,757 --> 00:50:53,592
-Do you know why it changed?
-[interviewer] No.

954
00:50:54,176 --> 00:50:55,927
-You don't know why?
-[interviewer] I don't.

955
00:50:56,553 --> 00:50:58,055
Who got the suspensions?

956
00:50:58,972 --> 00:51:01,266
-[interviewer] Players.
-Who took over this process?

957
00:51:01,349 --> 00:51:02,934
-[interviewer] Stern.
-There you go.

958
00:51:03,018 --> 00:51:07,064
The NBA is very cognizant of the fact
that you don't wanna alienate any fans

959
00:51:07,147 --> 00:51:09,066
because they're the ones
that pay your bills.

960
00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:11,693
They want to blame us to save the league.

961
00:51:11,777 --> 00:51:13,779
They didn't wanna put it on the fans.

962
00:51:13,862 --> 00:51:16,615
You're sitting,
watching people throw darts.

963
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:18,992
[whooshing sounds]

964
00:51:20,202 --> 00:51:21,828
And you can't say nothing.

965
00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:24,164
I think the narrative
is slightly different

966
00:51:24,247 --> 00:51:26,958
if they see all the footage.

967
00:51:28,251 --> 00:51:32,756
I don't mind taking blame,
but I also would like the story out there.

968
00:51:32,839 --> 00:51:34,800
Like, what happened? Go frame by frame.

969
00:51:36,134 --> 00:51:38,637
-[rewinding]
-[tense music playing]

970
00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:52,943
I'd like to introduce David Gorcyca,
the Oakland County prosecutor.

971
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:56,822
[Gorcyca] The NBA
was worried about their perception.

972
00:51:56,905 --> 00:51:59,116
Their image was… was tarnished,

973
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,619
and the severity of the sanctions
and suspensions was…

974
00:52:03,286 --> 00:52:04,371
was pretty harsh.

975
00:52:04,996 --> 00:52:09,167
I think they wanted me to send a message
to these millionaire-type bullies

976
00:52:09,251 --> 00:52:11,002
that, "Hey, you can't be doing that."

977
00:52:11,086 --> 00:52:13,213
But my job was to look at the facts

978
00:52:13,296 --> 00:52:15,882
and decide
what the appropriate charges are.

979
00:52:15,966 --> 00:52:20,971
Everyone involved in this altercation
will be held accountable,

980
00:52:21,054 --> 00:52:24,307
regardless of their status
as a player or a fan.

981
00:52:24,391 --> 00:52:27,978
The magnitude of this case
was like no other.

982
00:52:28,061 --> 00:52:30,188
It got bothersome
from a media perspective.

983
00:52:30,272 --> 00:52:32,732
They're just constantly on me daily.

984
00:52:32,816 --> 00:52:36,361
They wanted to pontificate
about what I should or shouldn't do.

985
00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:39,489
It was a lot of work,
uh, that went into this.

986
00:52:39,573 --> 00:52:41,950
Gonna be a very long investigation,

987
00:52:42,033 --> 00:52:46,246
probably more complicated than a murder
because we have so many witnesses.

988
00:52:46,872 --> 00:52:49,374
There was over a thousand pages
of police reports.

989
00:52:49,457 --> 00:52:53,795
Unlike most crimes, we had so much footage
from different angles.

990
00:52:54,963 --> 00:52:58,258
[intricate music playing]

991
00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:03,013
The Palace had a VHS tape for each
and every camera that was inside the arena

992
00:53:03,096 --> 00:53:05,473
and then all of the cameras
that are on the concourse

993
00:53:05,557 --> 00:53:07,017
as people were leaving.

994
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:09,394
We wanted to identify
every single person--

995
00:53:09,477 --> 00:53:12,355
player, fan, employee of the Palace.

996
00:53:12,439 --> 00:53:14,065
Anybody that did anything wrong.

997
00:53:14,149 --> 00:53:15,734
Eventually, we got to the point

998
00:53:15,817 --> 00:53:19,821
where we isolated images
of the people that we were looking for

999
00:53:19,905 --> 00:53:21,865
and we started broadcasting them out.

1000
00:53:21,948 --> 00:53:24,201
[newswoman] Breaking developments
in the Palace brawl.

1001
00:53:24,284 --> 00:53:26,870
Local Four has obtained exclusive video

1002
00:53:26,953 --> 00:53:29,789
of the man accused
of throwing a chair into the crowd

1003
00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:31,958
during Friday night's frantic melee.

1004
00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:33,585
The man who threw the chair

1005
00:53:33,668 --> 00:53:38,006
and struck the two individuals
was a clear-cut case of felonious assault.

1006
00:53:41,092 --> 00:53:44,596
When you look at some of the fans,
some of them relished it and got into it.

1007
00:53:45,972 --> 00:53:47,682
Charlie Haddad and AJ Shackleford,

1008
00:53:47,766 --> 00:53:50,685
they came down several rows
and walked on the court,

1009
00:53:50,769 --> 00:53:52,938
one of them coming on the court

1010
00:53:53,021 --> 00:53:56,024
face-to-face with Ron
with a clenched fist.

1011
00:53:56,107 --> 00:53:59,819
So Ron had every right
to defend himself at that point.

1012
00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:03,156
[Haddad] It was just crazy.
Made it look like it was my fault.

1013
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:07,953
They definitely did
a very, very loyal fan wrong.

1014
00:54:08,828 --> 00:54:13,291
[Gorcyca] One of the main people we wanted
to locate was the guy that threw the cup.

1015
00:54:13,375 --> 00:54:19,381
The main focus has to turn
to the person who started the riot.

1016
00:54:19,464 --> 00:54:21,299
The guy who threw a beer can.

1017
00:54:23,385 --> 00:54:27,222
[Gorcyca] The biggest issue was
we could not identify the cup thrower.

1018
00:54:28,223 --> 00:54:31,601
And I was watching,
and I went, "Play that back."

1019
00:54:33,144 --> 00:54:37,440
It took me ten, twelve takes of the video
to finally put it together.

1020
00:54:37,524 --> 00:54:40,110
And it dawned on me
where I recognized him from.

1021
00:54:40,193 --> 00:54:42,195
He used to date, uh, a neighbor.

1022
00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:46,199
So I knew who it was. So I ended up
identifying the cup thrower myself.

1023
00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:51,204
-[reporter] Can we talk to you?
-Can you leave our property, please?

1024
00:54:51,288 --> 00:54:53,748
-[reporter] Asking if I can talk to you.
-[man] No, man.

1025
00:54:53,832 --> 00:54:55,667
[newsman] The suspected cup-throwing fan,

1026
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:58,545
who the prosecution identified
as John Green,

1027
00:54:58,628 --> 00:55:00,255
tried to chase reporters away

1028
00:55:00,338 --> 00:55:03,383
from his suburban Detroit home
on Monday with his dog.

1029
00:55:03,466 --> 00:55:06,928
I was in my office and our dispatcher
called back to me and said,

1030
00:55:07,012 --> 00:55:09,597
"I have a guy on the phone
saying he's John Green,

1031
00:55:09,681 --> 00:55:10,765
the guy that threw the cup."

1032
00:55:12,434 --> 00:55:13,852
[Green] It was really wrong.

1033
00:55:13,935 --> 00:55:16,062
Those guys shouldn't come up
like that into the stands.

1034
00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:18,398
-Especially if you have the wrong guy.
-[Martin] Right.

1035
00:55:18,481 --> 00:55:20,025
-[Green] That's me.
-[Martin] That's you?

1036
00:55:20,108 --> 00:55:21,693
[Green] Yup. There, that's me.

1037
00:55:22,193 --> 00:55:25,113
-[Martin] Do you still have this jersey?
-[Green] I have it.

1038
00:55:25,196 --> 00:55:26,614
-[Martin] Can I see it?
-[Green] Why?

1039
00:55:26,698 --> 00:55:30,076
-[Martin] I gotta verify that--
-[Green] I have it. Am I in trouble?

1040
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:32,787
[Martin] No, no one's charged
at this point.

1041
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:36,624
[Green] Before--
Let me call my attorney real quick.

1042
00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:40,295
The man who started it all.

1043
00:55:40,378 --> 00:55:42,797
Boy, he became public enemy number one.

1044
00:55:42,881 --> 00:55:44,591
Now, for the first time, he speaks out.

1045
00:55:44,674 --> 00:55:46,343
[Green] It's apparent who threw the cup.

1046
00:55:46,426 --> 00:55:48,887
[interviewer] You were wearing…
I saw that Ben Wa--

1047
00:55:48,970 --> 00:55:51,681
Either that or you have an exact twin
who was standing up there.

1048
00:55:51,765 --> 00:55:53,266
I've been told that a few times.

1049
00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:57,687
[interviewer] Yeah. People have pointed
at you as the person who threw that cup.

1050
00:55:57,771 --> 00:56:00,231
-[Green] Right.
-[interviewer] When somebody says that,

1051
00:56:00,315 --> 00:56:03,276
"Were you the guy that threw the cup?"
how do you answer that?

1052
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,363
[Green] Uh, at this point, you know, I…
No hable.

1053
00:56:07,155 --> 00:56:10,241
You know, I mean,
the video pretty much speaks for itself.

1054
00:56:10,325 --> 00:56:13,370
[interviewer] Did you feel bad at all
when Ron Artest is flying up there

1055
00:56:13,453 --> 00:56:16,831
and goes right by you
and attacks the guy next to you?

1056
00:56:16,915 --> 00:56:18,041
[sighs] I felt relief.

1057
00:56:18,750 --> 00:56:20,335
No. [laughs] Jeez!

1058
00:56:20,418 --> 00:56:22,295
[laughs]

1059
00:56:22,379 --> 00:56:25,799
[interviewer] Do you have any, you know,
compassion within yourself

1060
00:56:25,882 --> 00:56:29,260
or some pity that he went after that guy,
and you were the guy who…

1061
00:56:29,344 --> 00:56:32,138
The only thing I regret
is not putting my foot out sooner.

1062
00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:33,890
-[interviewer] And tripping him over?
-Yeah.

1063
00:56:34,682 --> 00:56:39,020
I think John Green
precipitated this whole melee.

1064
00:56:39,854 --> 00:56:42,065
[reporter]
It seems that you're holding fans…

1065
00:56:42,148 --> 00:56:45,819
You're saying fans are more culpable here
than the players. Is that correct?

1066
00:56:45,902 --> 00:56:49,906
I would say one fan is more culpable,
and that being Mr. Green.

1067
00:56:49,989 --> 00:56:52,909
He doesn't throw that cup,
Artest doesn't go in the stands,

1068
00:56:52,992 --> 00:56:54,744
the players don't go in the stands,

1069
00:56:54,828 --> 00:56:57,705
fans don't react to the players
in the stands,

1070
00:56:57,789 --> 00:57:01,501
and probably the whole melee,
uh, dies on the court.

1071
00:57:01,584 --> 00:57:04,045
All of 'em,
except for, I think, John Green,

1072
00:57:04,129 --> 00:57:07,048
it was fines, costs,
probation, community service

1073
00:57:07,132 --> 00:57:10,135
that ultimately was the sentence
of each one of 'em.

1074
00:57:10,218 --> 00:57:12,887
John Green was charged
with one count of assault and battery

1075
00:57:12,971 --> 00:57:14,431
for throwing the beer,

1076
00:57:14,514 --> 00:57:16,891
as well as another count
of assault and battery

1077
00:57:16,975 --> 00:57:19,602
for coldcocking Ron Artest.

1078
00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:22,188
[indistinct courtroom chatter]

1079
00:57:22,272 --> 00:57:25,066
[O'Neal] It's important for people
to understand after the criminal part,

1080
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:27,777
I went through a process
to appeal my suspension.

1081
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:31,030
And once it finally got to federal court,

1082
00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:35,660
a federal judge,
who then saw every camera angle,

1083
00:57:35,743 --> 00:57:38,746
said I had the right to do what I did.

1084
00:57:39,247 --> 00:57:42,333
I'mma be honest with you.
I didn't go up there with no story.

1085
00:57:42,417 --> 00:57:43,501
I didn't give a fuck.

1086
00:57:43,585 --> 00:57:46,963
I was put in a situation where I either
help my brother or not help him.

1087
00:57:47,046 --> 00:57:48,047
I chose to help him.

1088
00:57:48,131 --> 00:57:52,385
I apologized for going in the stands.
I apologized for embarrassing the league.

1089
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:55,180
That's why I left it.
I wasn't going in there kissing no ass.

1090
00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:57,974
They didn't decrease mine.
They decreased JO's.

1091
00:57:58,057 --> 00:58:00,518
And, uh, Ron had
his full-year suspension as well.

1092
00:58:02,437 --> 00:58:04,230
It was… [sighs]

1093
00:58:04,314 --> 00:58:07,400
a significant amount of time
for what it was.

1094
00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:09,819
They were misdemeanor
assault and batteries.

1095
00:58:09,903 --> 00:58:13,364
Normally, you'd spend less than an hour
on that case, start to finish.

1096
00:58:13,948 --> 00:58:16,659
What the criminal justice system
did to them

1097
00:58:16,743 --> 00:58:19,204
paled in comparison
to what the NBA did to 'em.

1098
00:58:20,663 --> 00:58:22,540
That cup of beer changed everything.

1099
00:58:22,624 --> 00:58:24,083
Cost all of us…

1100
00:58:26,044 --> 00:58:27,879
a lot of money and time.

1101
00:58:28,463 --> 00:58:30,965
You know,
it cost a lot of people a lot of things.

1102
00:58:31,466 --> 00:58:32,926
[crowd cheering]

1103
00:58:33,009 --> 00:58:35,762
[commentator]
Reggie Miller with universal respect.

1104
00:58:35,845 --> 00:58:40,391
And the way he played this year,
there was talk about would he reconsider.

1105
00:58:40,475 --> 00:58:44,521
And Reggie's given no indication
that this is anything but final.

1106
00:58:44,604 --> 00:58:48,107
[crowd chanting]
Reggie! Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!

1107
00:58:48,191 --> 00:58:52,195
Reggie! Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!

1108
00:58:52,278 --> 00:58:55,490
Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!

1109
00:58:55,573 --> 00:58:56,824
[Miller] Once all this happened,

1110
00:58:57,784 --> 00:59:00,745
that's when I was like,
"It's time for me to hang it up."

1111
00:59:00,828 --> 00:59:02,497
[crowd cheering]

1112
00:59:06,376 --> 00:59:10,880
[Jackson] If the brawl hadn't happened,
we would have been champions. No question.

1113
00:59:10,964 --> 00:59:13,216
That's the most fucked-up thing about it.

1114
00:59:13,299 --> 00:59:16,844
That's the only thing I regret
about the whole situation,

1115
00:59:16,928 --> 00:59:21,140
is not being able to do
what we said we was gonna do for Reggie.

1116
00:59:21,224 --> 00:59:22,433
[somber music playing]

1117
00:59:22,517 --> 00:59:27,772
[Miller] It was bittersweet because
so many emotions run through your mind.

1118
00:59:28,565 --> 00:59:31,025
It was, like, fast forward 18 years.

1119
00:59:34,237 --> 00:59:39,325
That's your last NBA game ever.

1120
00:59:43,955 --> 00:59:47,333
[voice breaking] It's special, man.
It's pure and special.

1121
00:59:48,459 --> 00:59:49,377
It is.

1122
00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:51,546
[crowd cheering]

1123
00:59:51,629 --> 00:59:53,131
[voice breaking] For 18 years,

1124
00:59:54,173 --> 00:59:55,758
I've truly been blessed…

1125
00:59:55,842 --> 00:59:57,302
[crowd cheering]

1126
00:59:57,385 --> 01:00:00,305
…to be a Pacer and a Hoosier.

1127
01:00:00,388 --> 01:00:02,015
[crowd cheering]

1128
01:00:05,018 --> 01:00:06,603
Yeah, it's painful. Uh…

1129
01:00:06,686 --> 01:00:08,146
For me, it's painful.

1130
01:00:08,229 --> 01:00:10,106
He did about everything you could do.

1131
01:00:10,189 --> 01:00:13,484
[somber music continues]

1132
01:00:13,568 --> 01:00:15,278
[crowd cheering]

1133
01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:24,579
I apologize for that,

1134
01:00:24,662 --> 01:00:27,790
because there's no reason why, uh, Reggie,

1135
01:00:28,333 --> 01:00:30,585
uh, should be sitting home without a ring.

1136
01:00:38,676 --> 01:00:40,511
[crowd yelling angrily]

1137
01:00:47,477 --> 01:00:49,729
[yelling continues]

1138
01:00:53,524 --> 01:00:54,859
[sound cuts off]

1139
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,035
[Artest] The Indiana jersey I had on

1140
01:01:04,118 --> 01:01:08,456
was projected on television
at my worst moment.

1141
01:01:09,957 --> 01:01:12,794
So, wearing it, I wanna hide.

1142
01:01:12,877 --> 01:01:14,420
[crowd yelling]

1143
01:01:14,504 --> 01:01:18,091
I didn't wanna ever play
in an Indiana jersey. Too much pressure.

1144
01:01:18,675 --> 01:01:22,053
I asked to be traded, 'cause like I said,
I don't confront things head-on.

1145
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:26,474
But I think it'd be best if I move on,
and then, you know, they can move on.

1146
01:01:26,557 --> 01:01:29,102
You know,
everybody can move on with their careers.

1147
01:01:29,185 --> 01:01:30,645
[Jackson] That was a slap in my face.

1148
01:01:31,479 --> 01:01:34,732
After all we'd been through the last year,
now you wanna leave us?

1149
01:01:35,316 --> 01:01:38,820
That had a lasting effect with me and Ron.

1150
01:01:38,903 --> 01:01:42,573
You gotta be accountable
for the people that you pulled in.

1151
01:01:44,075 --> 01:01:46,661
And to me,
that was the most coward scenario

1152
01:01:46,744 --> 01:01:48,454
I've ever fucking seen in my life.

1153
01:01:49,580 --> 01:01:52,792
Sometimes you're a coward
and you gotta admit it. Boom. Simple.

1154
01:01:52,875 --> 01:01:55,002
You know, and, yeah, I didn't…
I should've…

1155
01:01:55,086 --> 01:01:57,839
What you do in a moment like that
is call your teammate,

1156
01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:00,758
even if it's really uncomfortable.

1157
01:02:00,842 --> 01:02:03,010
So, yeah, I wish that would have happened.

1158
01:02:03,094 --> 01:02:05,012
[somber music playing]

1159
01:02:05,763 --> 01:02:08,599
It took a long time
to figure out what's wrong.

1160
01:02:09,225 --> 01:02:13,813
At 23 years old, if I had more balance,
I probably would have been really great.

1161
01:02:13,896 --> 01:02:15,648
Ron Artest, by the way, uh…

1162
01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:18,818
Ron Artest of the Los Angeles Lakers
had some big news today.

1163
01:02:18,901 --> 01:02:25,450
Ron actually filed papers to have his name
legally changed to Metta World Peace.

1164
01:02:25,533 --> 01:02:27,702
-Ridiculous. It reminds me of Prince…
-So dumb.

1165
01:02:27,785 --> 01:02:30,204
…becoming
the Artist Formerly Known as Prince.

1166
01:02:30,288 --> 01:02:31,456
How long did that symbol last?

1167
01:02:31,539 --> 01:02:35,042
After the brawl, I told my therapist,
"All I wanna do is have balance."

1168
01:02:35,126 --> 01:02:36,836
"That's it.
I don't care about nothing else."

1169
01:02:39,005 --> 01:02:42,300
I tried not to have that much
emotional attachment to the game.

1170
01:02:42,884 --> 01:02:45,344
That's Buddhism, right?

1171
01:02:45,845 --> 01:02:47,764
You know, and Metta's a Buddhist name.

1172
01:02:48,473 --> 01:02:52,685
You wanna keep attaching yourself
to as many positive things as possible.

1173
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:55,938
When you look at my career,

1174
01:02:56,022 --> 01:02:58,733
not being a good teammate,
like, Metta's the opposite.

1175
01:02:58,816 --> 01:03:01,611
Be a good friend,
be love, and be kindness.

1176
01:03:01,694 --> 01:03:05,072
I wanna communicate,
I wanna be a better person. You know?

1177
01:03:05,156 --> 01:03:07,492
And that's pretty much what Metta means.

1178
01:03:07,575 --> 01:03:11,704
I had a real problem with Ron for years,

1179
01:03:11,788 --> 01:03:14,957
and it grew a dislike in my system.

1180
01:03:15,541 --> 01:03:18,294
I was probably even more angry
once he won the championship.

1181
01:03:18,377 --> 01:03:21,422
[commentator] Ron Artest has made
the most of his second chance.

1182
01:03:21,506 --> 01:03:23,716
And he's come all the way
from that Palace brawl

1183
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,553
to NBA championship
with the Los Angeles Lakers.

1184
01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:30,223
Ron, you're the only member
of this Laker team

1185
01:03:30,306 --> 01:03:32,016
to get that first championship.

1186
01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:34,185
You, my friend, are a champion.
How does it feel?

1187
01:03:34,268 --> 01:03:37,396
I was supposed to get one
with Jermaine and Donnie and Larry

1188
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,316
and Jamaal Tinsley and Jeff Foster
over there in Indiana,

1189
01:03:40,399 --> 01:03:42,360
and I bailed out on them.
I feel like a coward.

1190
01:03:42,443 --> 01:03:46,572
I don't even like being in their presence.
I feel like a coward in their presence,

1191
01:03:46,656 --> 01:03:49,575
you know, 'cause I bailed out on them
as a teammate.

1192
01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:52,745
And then I get to get a championship,
you know, so…

1193
01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:55,206
Let's talk about this game.
You looked in the first half…

1194
01:03:55,289 --> 01:03:57,792
I'm over the situation.
I lost a lot of money. Whatever.

1195
01:03:57,875 --> 01:04:01,295
I still feel like Jermaine's
being labeled by that.

1196
01:04:01,379 --> 01:04:03,297
Jermaine O'Neal. [small laugh]

1197
01:04:03,381 --> 01:04:07,093
He was on the verge of becoming one
of the greatest players ever. You know?

1198
01:04:08,386 --> 01:04:10,137
[Walsh] When I look at Jermaine today,

1199
01:04:10,221 --> 01:04:14,350
I think he probably suffered more
than all the players.

1200
01:04:14,433 --> 01:04:19,230
Because Ronnie Artest ended up
with the Lakers and won a championship.

1201
01:04:19,313 --> 01:04:23,526
Even Jack, who had played
on a championship team, San Antonio.

1202
01:04:23,609 --> 01:04:26,988
So Jermaine's career
kinda got short-circuited.

1203
01:04:27,071 --> 01:04:31,117
The responsibility of carrying that team
and being the leader was on him

1204
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,578
when all that happened,
and it wasn't his fault.

1205
01:04:33,661 --> 01:04:34,912
But he got blamed for it.

1206
01:04:34,996 --> 01:04:37,206
[somber music playing]

1207
01:04:41,669 --> 01:04:44,589
I've never really tried to use
the word "regret,"

1208
01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:46,215
um,

1209
01:04:46,924 --> 01:04:47,758
but…

1210
01:04:49,844 --> 01:04:51,053
it's a part of me

1211
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:53,723
that, uh,

1212
01:04:55,057 --> 01:04:56,851
has always bothered me.

1213
01:04:56,934 --> 01:05:00,062
[somber music continues]

1214
01:05:00,146 --> 01:05:03,065
Sky 4 was over the Palace of Auburn Hills
earlier today,

1215
01:05:03,149 --> 01:05:05,693
where crews were beginning
to demolish the place.

1216
01:05:05,776 --> 01:05:07,945
[newswoman] The Palace was home
to the Detroit Pistons

1217
01:05:08,029 --> 01:05:09,864
and saw three NBA championships

1218
01:05:09,947 --> 01:05:14,035
before it closed for good
after the 2017 season.

1219
01:05:14,118 --> 01:05:16,454
[O'Neal]
This thing was drawn out for years.

1220
01:05:16,537 --> 01:05:19,123
[echoing commentator chatter]

1221
01:05:20,625 --> 01:05:23,461
[O'Neal] I didn't wanna talk to anybody.
I wanted to move on with my life.

1222
01:05:24,754 --> 01:05:27,506
I've never been able
to get away from it though.

1223
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:29,675
[uneasy music plays]

1224
01:05:32,511 --> 01:05:36,182
People thought that ticket guaranteed them
to do whatever they wanted to do.

1225
01:05:36,265 --> 01:05:38,768
They can act and treat people
any way they wanted.

1226
01:05:38,851 --> 01:05:40,227
[siren wails]

1227
01:05:40,311 --> 01:05:41,354
[crowd yelling]

1228
01:05:41,437 --> 01:05:44,315
I'm not saying much of it was correct,

1229
01:05:45,358 --> 01:05:49,153
but they had a personal investment
in-in those ballplayers.

1230
01:05:50,404 --> 01:05:52,156
[O'Neal] Pops up every single year.

1231
01:05:52,865 --> 01:05:54,992
Kids that wasn't even born
asking me about that.

1232
01:05:55,785 --> 01:05:57,078
[crowd yelling]

1233
01:05:57,161 --> 01:05:59,705
[Smith] Fans have
such an emotional investment in it.

1234
01:06:00,957 --> 01:06:02,500
There is a darkness there.

1235
01:06:02,583 --> 01:06:06,796
[commentator] If you're a professional
athlete, you may not go into the stands.

1236
01:06:06,879 --> 01:06:10,383
Boy, what a waste
of a lot of time and resources

1237
01:06:10,466 --> 01:06:13,427
when crimes and murders were taking place.

1238
01:06:14,845 --> 01:06:18,265
Nobody cared about
who won the criminal cases,

1239
01:06:18,349 --> 01:06:19,809
who won the appeal case.

1240
01:06:21,227 --> 01:06:23,813
I wasn't able to speak for years.

1241
01:06:23,896 --> 01:06:26,524
This is the last fucking time
you can ask me about this shit.

1242
01:06:26,607 --> 01:06:29,694
I don't wanna talk about that piece
of shit motherfucker who threw that beer.

1243
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:32,530
Okay? I don't wanna talk
about losing all that money no more.

1244
01:06:32,613 --> 01:06:34,365
[commentator] This is a disgrace.

1245
01:06:34,448 --> 01:06:37,618
If there's any fault, it's on me.
I thought it would work.

1246
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:39,203
I wasn't right.

1247
01:06:39,286 --> 01:06:41,914
[commentator] Fans and players
are going at it. The players…

1248
01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,708
Some things just never leave.

1249
01:06:44,291 --> 01:06:45,418
They never leave.

1250
01:06:46,002 --> 01:06:49,005
Malice in the Palace is…
is one of those events.

1251
01:06:49,630 --> 01:06:52,091
There's a bit of me
that probably to this very day

1252
01:06:52,174 --> 01:06:56,053
is still in the Palace
until they knock it down.

1253
01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:58,305
[somber music playing]

1254
01:06:58,389 --> 01:07:00,391
[explosion blasting]

1255
01:07:06,814 --> 01:07:08,691
[loud droning]

1256
01:07:17,491 --> 01:07:21,120
[somber droning plays]

1257
01:07:40,222 --> 01:07:41,682
[music fades]