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He always looked
for the good side of people.

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He didn't look for material things,
the economic side or for a nice tracksuit.

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He wouldn't criticize anybody,

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so I thought "you're as nice
as you are dumb." It makes me mad.

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The smell after playing football.

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He left his shirt and they grabbed it.
Poof.

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And he's like…
What does your mom use to wash this?

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And, ah, I was going home from work…
I heard the news on the radio…

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Mmm… I got really nervous.

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A huge overwhelming sensation and…

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seeing hours and more hours
go by and that…

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The only one no one
had heard from was Dani.

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The taxi driver… crying with us.

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I still believed
that Dani was helping the victims.

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I got home,
my father was crying.

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And I didn't understand, I told him, hey,
it's fine, everything's fine, dad, no…

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Everything's fine, and…

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And I got the call about them
not being able to find Dani. But…

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I had already talked to him, so…

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it couldn't be and I was saying that…

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He was going to show up
and that I'd give him a hug,

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I wanted him to show up so badly…

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And he never showed up.

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Up until March 10th, 2004,

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I was a normal person,
I think I was happy. I had a job.

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I was able to send both
my children to college.

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I was working on research
on new drugs to treat cancer.

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I was a commander in the terrestrial…
terrestrial army.

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I worked as an electrician and as plumber.

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I was a photojournalist at Agencia EFE.

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I was a regional dance teacher.

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She was in a dance group, too.

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I used to work at… the station.

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I'm a security guard.

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I was working as a train operator

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at the Madrid commuter trains network.

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Back then, I juggled

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working as a civil servant
and I drove a taxi.

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I had two jobs.

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I was a completely happy girl.

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I didn't have any kind of problem,
everything for me was… great.

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My life was… just like
any other 19, 20-year-old guy's.

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I found out I was pregnant. I was happy.

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There was nothing

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foreshadowing that something
would happen that day

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different from… any other day.

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A regular working day.

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He kissed me goodbye like every morning.

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You have some coffee, you take a shower.

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You get dressed and…
you leave in a hurry to catch the train.

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I remember I bought
the newspaper that day.

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Because Real Madrid
had won the day before.

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When he said goodbye,
his mother told him…

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Aren't you going to kiss me goodbye, son?

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As he was walking down the corridor…

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I had this feeling…

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And I thought, "Don't leave."

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I saw I was about to miss the train,
so I automatically ran to catch it.

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And I caught it.

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When the doors closed,
we heard a very loud noise.

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We all fell to the ground

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and smoke came out.
I managed to get out of the wagon.

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I looked right,

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and to my surprise
I saw a blown-up wagon.

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I was on the platform

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and the wagon to my left
and the one I'd just gotten off from…

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exploded.

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What crossed my mind was to get out.

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To get out of there no matter what.

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There is no cowardice
in a situation like that.

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It's survival.

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Through the security walkie-talkies

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we were told we all had to go…

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downstairs…

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to the platforms.

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I threw myself down to protect myself

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and jumped to the railway on the right.

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There a third bomb exploded,

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and everything went black.

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The third explosion hit us upfront.

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The blast threw us down.

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I was knocked unconscious.

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The first shards

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of glass hit me

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on the left side of my face.

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You see… horror

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Images that I think…
no one should see.

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I always sat in the same wagon.

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Usually on the same seat,
right next to the window.

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I remember the beeping sound
when the doors closed.

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I started the… train.

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I didn't hear any noise.
You see a flash…

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and smoke.

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A black cloud enveloped me
and everything started spinning.

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I was under a seat.

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I couldn't see anything.

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I started screaming, "What is this?"

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I-it's is a bomb. It's a bomb.

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And I remember nothing else.

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I saw through the rear-view mirror…

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how the second bomb…

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the second bomb exploded.

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That image… I have it…

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It's impossible to… to forget.

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Because of the huge noise
from the blast…

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it's almost like you're deaf.

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You hear like
when someone talks

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while your head is underwater.

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That's how I was hearing.

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I saw things that…

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that were really hard.

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The first sensation was a lot of light
spinning around me

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and that I had lost control of my body.

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I tried to sit up, but I wasn't able to.

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We were out and got back in
to help people out.

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While we were taking people out,

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the fifth wagon exploded.

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I don't remember anything
after that blast.

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Ah…

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Lord… protect me.

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Uh… me and my family.

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At that moment…

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everything… turned black.

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Once we got there we realized

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just how big the tragedy actually was.

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First, our colleagues,
we looked at each other

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and we told ourselves,
"Okay, well, what is this?"

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Where do we begin?

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Everything was quiet.

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It was dead silence.
You could only hear mobile phones.

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When I woke up, I knew I was on the train,

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but I couldn't see the train anywhere.

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I was suddenly on the seat
that the woman next to me was in.

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I realized,

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to my surprise,
I no longer had pants nor shoes.

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The people who were
in front of me, who were…

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who were right above the bomb
were completely torn apart.

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My legs were cut
up to my knees.

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I tried to get up.
That was when I realized that…

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my legs…
It was impossible to get up

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because they were completely torn apart.

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I was in so much pain.

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It was if my whole body had been torn…

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my whole body, so much pain.

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We began to…

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do something called triage.

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To determine which patients

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should receive medical attention first
depending on the injuries they have,

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how likely they are to… to survive.

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I was helping someone
and my partner, well…

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she asked, "What can I do?"

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And the SAMUR physician
who was attending that person…

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told her, "Help him die in peace."

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Help him die peacefully.

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My partner, well…

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she held his hand…

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and simply waited for him to die.

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A firetruck arrived and…

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we started asking them to cut the doors

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from the trains
so we could use them as stretchers.

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The windows
from nearby houses had shattered

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and through those broken windows
people were throwing blankets for us.

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A friend of hers called me…

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and she only said to me,
"Bomb at Atocha."

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I had my mobile here, I grabbed it…

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and I called my mother.

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He said, "Mom, there was an explosion."

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And… he said, "Mommy come,
come mommy."

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"Dad, dad!

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There was an explosion,
and my arm is destroyed."

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And then the call cut off.

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So I went…

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to the school to check
if she had arrived and they told me

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she hadn't.

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I woke up that morning and thought
I would call him to say "happy birthday",

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it's his birthday today
and I should be the first, I'm his mother.

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One of the answers to the calls was…

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"We can't find your sister."

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When I called, it went through, but…

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no one picked up.

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Since we were undocumented people,

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we didn't want the police to come
and start asking us questions.

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I held on to that lady
and was asking her to help me.

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I told her I had to leave
that place because…

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I didn't want to be deported,

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but she said, "How can you leave
if you can't even walk?"

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I had blood all over me.

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I didn't have papers back then

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and I was just hoping the police wouldn't
catch me because I had no pa--

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I remember… a boy next to me…

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He was dead… very young.

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One man came onto the train and saw…

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a finger… that was moving.

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He had a wound in his chest.

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When I saw the wound,
what I did was put my hand in.

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I put my hand inside him.

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With his hand he…

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he lessened the blood loss.

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In Spain, we felt

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the permanent threat of local terrorism.

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The terrorism carried out by ETA.

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Two weeks before
some ETA members had been caught.

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They had come to Madrid
with a truck full of explosives

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and they were targeting something big,
but it wasn't known what.

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It's clear.

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ETA has tried to wreck democracy.

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It was a Thursday.

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And the general elections
would take place on Sunday.

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Thus, there was
a chance this would directly

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impact the election.

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Terrorists must know
that any government

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will give them the same answer.

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And that it will pursue them

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until they answer
for their atrocious crimes.

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This is not the time
to talk about anything

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but the anger we feel
because of this savagery

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and the support
for the families of the victims.

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Once the people that need

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medical attention
are removed from the area,

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the areas are secured.

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An inspection of the scene begins,

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and all the objects are observed
and then orderly removed.

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Suddenly, we can hear people's voices
and screams saying there's another bomb.

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And a personal
and emotional struggle begins.

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The guys from TEDAX told us
we had to leave the place immediately.

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We had to make sure
there were no remaining living victims.

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The firefighters didn't know…

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And we all stayed there.

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Because
some people were still alive.

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A colleague heard a noise, heard a moan

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and the guy said,
"we need to search here."

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There was a… a girl…

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who was screaming inside,
but what we heard was so low.

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And indeed, there was a person

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underneath… several people.

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They saw me, they saw that I…

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that I was breathing and…

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I remember that they said,
"This one's alive, she's alive!"

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Our first instinct was to grab her hand.

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And when she grabbed my hand, I remember
she held it very very tight, like saying

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"I don't know where I am or what happened,

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but I know this
is what's going to save me."

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In the end,

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two bags
with explosive devices were found.

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One at El Pozo station,

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which had to be neutralized.

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The other at Atocha,

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and despite TEDAX's
efforts to deactivate it,

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they realized that
it wasn't safe enough to do it manually,

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so it was neutralized
by allowing it to explode.

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The firefighters
had to carry out the hardest job.

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We were recovering the bodies,
and in some cases it was really hard.

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I was obsessed with looking
at every spot, at every corner

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so we wouldn't miss anything.

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We looked underneath the rails

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and by tracing the blast wave

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I told one firefighter,
"Let's get up on the roof

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in case there's anything there."
Indeed, there was a dead body

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on the roof…

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An incident infinitely more painful…

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considering how many feelings
we experienced.

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The wounds were different.

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It wasn't a war, and these
were not soldiers and there were so many.

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I'd never seen a clinical chart
written on an abdomen with a marker.

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The patients arrived
completely out of themselves.

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Most of them were deaf.

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I had a burst vertebra.

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I was missing a piece of…
of my forehead and my nose.

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I had tubes coming out of everywhere.

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The only thing I was thinking of
was that I had lost my baby.

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It felt… impossible, like a nightmare,

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but no, it was real.

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I didn't care that I had burns,
I didn't care that I had broken bones,

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I didn't care that one of my legs
had been amputated.

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I didn't care about any of that.
I was alive.

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The blast wave had cut my elbow.

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The doctor recommended cutting
his arm off, to amputate his left arm.

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My husband showed me
a picture of my children,

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because I couldn't remember
I had children.

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When I woke up…

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My husband,
my parents, my family was there.

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I was trying to tell them
how my daughter was dressed.

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That same morning
I talked to Baltasar Garzón

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and told him,
"Those ETA people are bastards."

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And Garzón told me,
"Alberto, it wasn't ETA."

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I told Alberto Ruiz Gallardón,
he asked me,

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and I told him it wasn't ETA.

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And I remember he said,
"What are you saying?"

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I said, "No, it wasn't them."

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He told me it wasn't ETA's modus operandi.

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I can tell you at this moment ETA

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doesn't have enough operating forces
to carry out an attack this big.

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The abertzale left is not even considering

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as a hypothesis that ETA

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is behind what happened today in Madrid.

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The Government convened a crisis cabinet,

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and to our surprise, we discovered

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that the people who were called
to participate in the crisis cabinet

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were people who had little to do

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with any police or security department

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and had more to do with the Popular Party.

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And furthermore, the Director
of the National Intelligence Service

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hadn't been asked to join.

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That was the first time I had a feeling

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that things were starting
to become delicate

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and might end up becoming dangerous.

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There were two meetings that morning.

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One took place at the Moncloa and was
presided by the president,

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and another one
at the Ministry of Interior,

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which was presided
by the Minister Acebes.

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I wasn't invited to either of them.

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There was a meeting
of the police higherups

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between 12:00 and 1:00 PM
at the Ministry of Interior.

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One of the police commanders called

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the police commander in charge
of the TEDAX, who was working

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in one of the attack sites, to ask him
if he knew anything about the explosives.

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And he said it could be dynamite
with a detonating cord,

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that's what Santiago Cuadro Jaén says.

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And Pedro Díaz Pintado
says he heard him say

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it might be Titadine
with a detonating cord.

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Both have sworn to death that it was
the other that made the mistake.

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Santiago Cuadro says
he never said Titadine

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and Díaz Pintado says he heard Titadine.

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That's what he reported
to the rest of the police commanders

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and what he later reported
to the minister.

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That morning we were told
that what had blown was Titadine,

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not goma-2 ECO,
which is what actually blew up.

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Titadine was ETA's usual weapon.

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The Titadine issue is a rumor

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that started spreading in the first hours
immediately after the attacks

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when we still weren't able
to determine the type of explosive.

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First, because
there was no expert analysis

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and second, because the expert
analysis that was done later

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could only determine the type of explosive

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used for the explosion, not the brand.

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And Titadine is a brand.

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The President of the Government
José María Aznar called

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all the main newspapers'
directors to tell them

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the government was certain ETA
was behind the attacks.

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We received a direct phone call
from the President.

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He told us then that

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the most likely hypothesis
they were going with

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was that the terrorist organization ETA
was behind the attack.

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The President of the Government considered

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ETA directly responsible for the attack
without any doubt whatsoever.

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We had just closed
the edition of the newspaper

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with the front page headline

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"Terrorist Massacre in Madrid."

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And after Aznar's call,

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I changed the headline

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to "ETA Massacre in Madrid."

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How could we not trust the word
of the President?

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The police, due to the M.O., discarded ETA

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almost from the beginning.

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I felt pretty uncomfortable…

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because an attack of such magnitude

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was something that ETA,
unless it was a faction

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that was trying to split from them,

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wasn't interested in.

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At this moment, security forces and corps

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as well as the Ministry of Interior,
have no doubt

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that the terrorist organization ETA
is behind the attack.

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There is no possible nor desirable
negotiation with these murderers

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who have so many times
brought death throughout all of Spain.

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Spanish television is providing you
information on the series of attacks

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in Madrid through which
ETA has tried to plant

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the seeds of chaos and panic
at the end of the electoral campaign.

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The government called
the United Nations to demand

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a statement condemning the attacks.

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They asked and insisted
that the Security Council

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condemn the attacks.

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The government insisted,

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that as statement of condemnation
was not enough,

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00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,120
it had to say that the attacks
had been perpetrated by ETA.

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00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,520
The Renault Kangoo was found around noon

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and people from the Provincial
Information Brigade showed up.

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They said that the Renault didn't match

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the information that a vehicle
manipulated by ETA should provide.

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When we found the van,
there were some remaining

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explosive devices and it was determine
they were made of goma-2 ECO.

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The policemen in charge managed
the information correctly,

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but it is obvious that there was

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a discrepancy
between the information provided

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and the information the public had.

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A van was found

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in Alcalá de Henares

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and in the front seat we found

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seven detonating devices
and also among others tapes,

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we found one in Arabic containing

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Quran verses regarding teaching.

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This made me instruct

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our police forces and corps not to dismiss
any line of investigation.

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I insisted that our main line
of investigation, the one the police

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00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,760
and the national guard was considering
as essential, same as this morning,

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was that of the terrorist group ETA.

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00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,800
Spain is still in shock of this tragedy

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caused by the series
of attacks that happened

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00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
today that,
according to most of the hypotheses,

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00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,880
ETA carried out in Madrid.

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00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,840
A letter supposedly
from the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda

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00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,520
was sent to an Arabic newspaper in London

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00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,280
and in it the group claims to be behind

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00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,080
this morning's attacks in Madrid.

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00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,920
Al-Qaeda justifies the attacks as part

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00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320
of old unsettled debts
in what they call the Spanish crusade.

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00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,320
It was very painful to see how the issue

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00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,840
of the people who died
was slowly fading away.

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The dead bodies were taken
to pavilion 6 at IFEMA.

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00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920
Then the autopsies began.

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00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960
There were many families
who didn't know yet

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00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,960
that their relative was dead.

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00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,640
They were holding on to the hope that they

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00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,880
might find them at the hospital among
the unidentified wounded.

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00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960
To everyone that approached and asked me

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00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,440
if I needed something,
I would answer, "Look for my boy."

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I believed my son
would show up any minute.

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00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,200
It was past 11.

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00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,640
It was past 12.

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00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280
All night without knowing anything.

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00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,960
They explained the same thing, as always.
Dad had gone to heaven because…

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00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,080
some evil people wanted to take him.

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00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200
That feeling of not wanting to be called.

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00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Of not wanting

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00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520
to hear your family's name,
your daughter's name.

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00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200
We told a family that…

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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640
their relative was dead.

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00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,960
And we would accompany them

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00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,560
immediately to identify the body.

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00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,040
It seemed that they had found…

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00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,920
Daniel's body.

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00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,240
They had to make a DNA test
to identify him properly.

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00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,240
I only remember that I said one phrase.

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00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,040
Please, even if it's a lie…

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00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120
swear to me…
that my son died without any suffering.

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00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,560
The police told me
we needed to see a picture.

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00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,960
And I told them it was my daughter.

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00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,160
My husband went in

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to identify a person,
thinking it was his daughter.

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00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,600
But he said it wasn't.

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00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,880
And it was his daughter.

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00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360
It's the hardest thing

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00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,760
any father could go through,

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00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,520
or any mother.

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00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,640
I was so stubborn about being
one of the persons going in.

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00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,840
And I went in.

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00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,320
And there she was.

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00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,120
And then…

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that was it.

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All of us were wondering,
"How can I help?"

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All the wounded had someone

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00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,800
next to them holding their hand.

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People from the streets.

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00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,000
He held my hand
and told me all along,

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00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400
"Don't worry,
we're going to help you."

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00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,320
There were people
who were still alive but… no…

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00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,440
They didn't have any chance.

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00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,640
I never imagined someone who wasn't
a health worker could do such thing.

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00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,400
In that moment,
some people did things that…

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00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,200
that under normal circumstances
they wouldn't do.

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00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880
I thought they were going to leave,
but when I said "Let's go look inside",

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00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200
eight or ten people went in and those
eight or ten stayed until the end.

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The lines to donate blood

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had no end.

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00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,840
The taxi driver told me I didn't have
to pay him anything and wished me luck.

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00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400
Everyone showed up. Everyone.

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00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,600
"We're not afraid."

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00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,920
While writing an article…

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,120
It was so hard to convey

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00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,600
the great pain we were seeing.

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00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Whenever an ambulance
passed through, people would clap.

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00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,240
I really wanted to thank the people

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for helping us and what they did.

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00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,200
We did everything we could
and if I couldn't do better

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00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280
I apologize, obviously. Right?

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00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,280
To anyone that at that time

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00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040
cried for us, know that

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00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
I will be eternally grateful to you.

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00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,640
I'd never seen my country
as united like that day. Never.

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00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,440
Two days later,

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00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,120
Spain was divided
like I'd never seen before.

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00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,840
We are committed to fight new threats

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00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,400
like terrorism, weapons of mass
destruction and tyrannical regimes.

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00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,920
The role of Spain
in the Iraq occupation was very polemical,

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00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000
it was very controversial,

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00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,600
and it produced
large protests in the streets.

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00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,280
It brought to the forefront matters
of international politics

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for the general public, something
that had never happened before.

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00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000
The interest of the general public
in foreign affairs

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00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,720
was very limited.

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Instructions were given to pick up
and store bag the evidence found

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00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,720
and to send it to IFEMA.

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00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,440
The judge in charge stated in the report

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00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,960
that the evidence was going to be held
at the Puente de Vallecas precinct,

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00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160
we had to go to IFEMA

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00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000
and bring everything
to the Puente de Vallecas precinct.

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00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400
While doing an inspection and writing

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00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640
a report of everything
that was inside the bag,

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00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,240
a police officer found the device.

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00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,280
I got a call and they told me
they had found a bomb

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00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,480
and that they had already called
the TEDAX team,

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00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,120
that they had evacuated the precinct.

504
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,680
We took it to a park
to be able to deactivate it

505
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,760
more securely and without putting
other people at risk,

506
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,520
there we could go slowly,

507
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,440
and we were able to deactivate it.

508
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560
In the X-ray we could perfectly see

509
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440
a very long wire
that hadn't been properly fitted.

510
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640
It was like this,
which is why it didn't explode.

511
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,960
The backpack contained a phone,

512
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,360
a card and an explosive device.

513
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,120
With this, the police started working

514
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,680
backwards to figure out where
the explosive devices came from,

515
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,520
where the phone was bought

516
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,400
and where the card was bought.

517
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,240
Does anyone believe
that any sensible government

518
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080
in Spain after 30 years

519
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080
of terrorism and after facing
an attack like yesterday's

520
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,720
wouldn't logically,

521
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,240
reasonably, believe

522
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000
that that gang might be behind it?

523
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,040
For some, if it had been ETA,

524
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,920
this would be a victory
for the Popular Party,

525
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,600
however, for others
if the Islamists had done it,

526
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,800
Islamic terrorists, this would give

527
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,840
the south an advantage in the elections
that would take place in three days.

528
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600
The main line
of investigation is still ETA.

529
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Yes, it's still the main
line of investigation,

530
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,680
this is what I've been told moments ago

531
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,520
by the security forces and corps,
who are in charge of the investigation.

532
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,760
An anonymous call on behalf of ETA

533
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,160
assures that the terrorist organization
was not responsible

534
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,720
and it was published
by the newspaper Gara.

535
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,560
The White House offered

536
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:44,560
an interview with the President
and the First Lady

537
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,280
at ambassador Javier Rupérez's residence.

538
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400
The offer was a surprise

539
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,240
due to the nature of the interview,

540
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,640
but it was normal
that the White House press called

541
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,120
the Spanish Television correspondents.

542
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,040
I always believed it was

543
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,160
because of the connection, the friendship

544
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:03,760
between Bush and Aznar.

545
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,480
It was the first time
an American president

546
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,000
visited a foreign ambassador
in Washington.

547
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,480
Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice were there.

548
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,800
We knew Colin Powell,
who had a very high position

549
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,600
in Bush's administration, was coming.

550
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,840
Bush did the interview next to his wife

551
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,000
and afterwards

552
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,000
Lorenzo called me to tell me
that Spanish Television

553
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,600
would not broadcast the interview.

554
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,040
At that time, I supposed,

555
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,120
and I still believe it now,

556
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,680
that Spanish Television's director

557
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,520
believed it wasn't timely

558
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,520
to link…

559
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,800
what had happened in Madrid
with President Bush

560
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,640
because that led to Iraq.

561
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,600
And what I understood

562
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,760
was that Spanish Television's
directors were…

563
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,520
trying to keep going
with the government's version,

564
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,440
which was ETA.

565
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,520
Bush held me back and asked
if we could talk privately.

566
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080
He asked me, "Who do you think

567
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,800
is behind this?" And I said,
"Well, we believe it's ETA."

568
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,400
Then he told me,

569
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,360
"My intelligence services say

570
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,680
there's a chance it wasn't ETA."

571
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,280
When the President of the United States

572
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,920
says his intelligence services

573
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,840
are finding out
that it was someone else, well…

574
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,120
I called Aznar to told him and…

575
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Aznar, I imagine Aznar knew

576
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,400
much more than I did
at that moment, right?

577
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,520
He was already aware
of the issue since he…

578
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,840
Let's say the rumor mill

579
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
had already started in Madrid.

580
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:19,480
It began with the usual
shouts of "No to terrorism…"

581
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,240
but then something starts to come out…

582
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,480
a voice in a…

583
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,440
very spontaneous manner
asking who was it.

584
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,120
That question, at that demonstration,

585
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,360
that day, already…

586
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,080
told us that the people didn't believe

587
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,040
the government's version.

588
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,960
It seems like some people

589
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,680
want to dismiss the possibility

590
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,600
that the criminal and murderous
organization ETA is behind this.

591
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,400
As the investigation continues,

592
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,560
there is more evidence
pointing to Arabs, not ETA.

593
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,880
Specially when they find phone numbers

594
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,760
through one of the phone cards
found next to the bombs.

595
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,200
Those numbers were tracked

596
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,280
and it turned out that the phone card

597
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,360
was sold in Lavapies in a store

598
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,200
of an Arab named Jamal Zougam.

599
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880
Jamal Zougam was a person
with a jihadist background.

600
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,240
He was someone who had already been
flagged by French intelligence services

601
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,000
for his ties to jihadism.

602
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,280
No Spaniard can be surprised
that the priority

603
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,680
is the terrorist organization
that's spent 30 years

604
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,120
attacking Spain,
and that's caused nearly 900 deaths.

605
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,920
That is the priority.

606
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,960
I haven't heard it's Al-Qaeda from anyone
at the security forces and corps

607
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,680
or that the favor an investigative line

608
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,400
regarding that terrorist organization.

609
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,560
The first detentions
were of citizens from Maghreb.

610
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,960
Where's ETA?

611
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,560
The head of the NIC had been

612
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,000
excluded from both political
and investigative meetings,

613
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,040
and suddenly the government
asks him to make a statement

614
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,040
blaming ETA for the attacks,

615
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,040
when the police already had
by noon on Saturday the information

616
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,000
of the stores where the phones

617
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,200
used in the attacks had been sold.

618
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,760
I met with Minister Acebes in his office

619
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,040
on Saturday at 4:00 PM
and I wasn't told anything.

620
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,920
From Moncloa,
I'm being asked to say something

621
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,840
that is obviously going nowhere,

622
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440
and they already know that the ETA trail
has no validity whatsoever

623
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,440
and that the Islamist trail
is the valid one.

624
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,440
I felt very bad that day.

625
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,960
I felt very manipulated
and that day I wanted…

626
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:30,920
I wanted to quit.
But imagine, if that night,

627
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,720
the day before the elections,
I had presented my resignation,

628
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,080
I would've directly caused him
to lose the elections,

629
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,800
and that was a burden
I didn't want to carry either.

630
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,360
Before the ballots open,

631
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,760
the local cell records a video

632
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,080
with the intent of being able to intervene

633
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,000
in the discussion that had already started

634
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,080
in the media and among Spain's society

635
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,200
regarding who was behind the attacks.

636
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,520
The video was made by one
of the terrorists dressed as a woman

637
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,440
because that was what he had nearby.
Imagine how desperate

638
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,480
they were feeling,
the need they had to say,

639
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,880
"Hey, it was us who killed them, not ETA.

640
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,280
It was us, damn it!"

641
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,360
I think nothing should be dismissed.

642
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,400
The police will continue to work

643
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,280
investigating every possibility.

644
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,120
The Minister of Interior subjected himself

645
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,320
to a dramatic sequence
of public appearances

646
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,400
in which the information he provided

647
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,840
was very volatile,
and at the same time very contradictory.

648
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,000
It was extremely surprising
that someone like Aznar

649
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,080
wasn't capable of stopping that version,

650
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,680
because it was obvious that the opposition

651
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,680
was going to use the ammunition
they were giving them.

652
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,080
On the day of reflection,

653
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:25,440
the Spanish left went out to the streets
and criticized the government

654
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,280
harshly and disproportionately.

655
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,280
In Spain,
on the 24 hours before an election,

656
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680
it is forbidden to make
any political propaganda.

657
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,880
Many of the meetings taking place
in the streets and in front

658
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960
of the Popular Party headquarters
were organized through social media,

659
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,680
which, on top of that,

660
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,800
were still unknown or, at least,
their use was very rare.

661
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,520
The complaints started very strong.

662
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,640
There was a demonstration in front
of the Popular Party's headquarters,

663
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,840
berating the government despite the fact

664
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,080
that there had been no evidence
of culpability from the government.

665
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,200
There is an illegal demonstration

666
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,800
that is also blaming the Popular Party
for terrible crimes.

667
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,800
The government was in trouble,
the opposition had seen blood

668
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,360
and the chance to change
the election outcome unexpectedly.

669
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,200
Spanish citizens deserve a government
that doesn't lie to them.

670
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,360
They deserve a government
that always speaks the truth.

671
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,600
The government,
since the beginning has acted

672
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,880
and continues to act
with full transparency.

673
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,280
On Sunday 14th, I went
down to vote with my husband and daughter.

674
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,440
Miriam was going to London on Thursday,

675
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,480
so she sent her vote through mail.
I asked to be present

676
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,840
to make sure Miriam's vote was counted.

677
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,040
I went to vote.

678
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,560
I went because my boy

679
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,720
wanted to vote, but they didn't let him.

680
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,880
The day of the elections gave the victory,
surprisingly, to the opposition party.

681
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,280
I've given orders
to have the Spanish troops

682
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,080
posted in Iraq

683
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:58,080
come home as soon
and as safely as possible.

684
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Condoleezza Rice
called me to express

685
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,880
her surprise, her shock.

686
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,800
Because they hadn't warned the Americans,
they hadn't said anything.

687
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,040
There was this sense that Zapatero

688
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,160
is kind of doing
what the terrorists have asked.

689
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,920
He should have waited
long enough so that no one

690
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,320
would think that there was
a cause-and-effect relationship

691
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,040
between the attacks and the withdrawal.

692
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,760
Choosing March 11
as the day of the attacks in Madrid

693
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,360
had nothing to do with the elections.

694
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,480
It was rather a matter of strategy
for the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda.

695
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,080
The first evidence of March 11

696
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,720
having been chosen
as the day to attack Madrid

697
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,640
dates back

698
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:57,000
to October 19, 2003.

699
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,960
An on October 19, 2003,

700
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,400
the general elections
hadn't been called yet

701
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,280
in Spain.

702
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,400
There's objective data indicating

703
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,640
that the attacks were fully planned
in Belgium, in Brussels.

704
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:14,320
It's a document to be able
to acquire a mobile telephone chip

705
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,160
that would be used
by the March 11 network.

706
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,280
In those documents,
they put two false dates of birth.

707
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,680
One is replaced by May 16,

708
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,360
the date of the attacks in Casablanca,

709
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,720
and the other one
is replaced by March 11,

710
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,280
the day the attacks in Madrid would occur.

711
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,080
Both pieces of information date back
to before the elections were called.

712
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,600
Therefore, it's hard to believe
that someone was heading

713
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,520
the presidency and knew he would call
for an election on March 14.

714
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,800
With all the data
that the national police had gathered,

715
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,600
we started to draw the first conclusions

716
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,640
on all the devices that hadn't exploded.

717
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:26,080
Once we found out where the mobile
phones' chips had been bought,

718
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,720
we were able to locate the phones

719
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,720
through the radioelectric network.

720
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,760
And they were near a house
we already knew of

721
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,480
which is where the explosives were made,
in they are of Morata de Tajuña.

722
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,960
That type of explosive came from mines,
especially those located in Asturias.

723
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,520
Conchita Mine is a very rural place,

724
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,280
it was relatively easy to hide
big amounts of explosive materials there.

725
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,120
There were explosive cartridges,

726
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,760
which were not at the munitions dump,
as they should have been.

727
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,920
All the explosive devices,
as well as the rest of the detonators,

728
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,720
and there were many different types,
had all come from the same mine.

729
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,080
The other part of the investigation
was now to identify

730
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,400
all the people who might have had a role

731
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,280
in allowing the terrorists to have
this amount of explosives.

732
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,040
The linking piece was

733
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,480
an individual called Rafa Zouhier,

734
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,000
who knew the perpetrators

735
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,000
and also the people
at the mine in Asturias.

736
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,120
And both groups arranged it.

737
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,840
The jihadist cell
got their explosives in Asturias

738
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680
by trading them for hashish,
as simple as that.

739
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,240
They took them to Madrid
and planned the attacks.

740
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,320
The operation leader of the cell,

741
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,800
when he was driving from Asturias
with 200 kg of explosives,

742
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,000
was stopped by the Civil Guard.

743
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:58,040
They were stopped, identified,
and there was nothing against them.

744
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,680
He was fined and he paid in cash.

745
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,200
They didn't search the trunk
where all the explosives were.

746
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,040
The car had duplicated plates.

747
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,000
If instead of a traffic patrol car

748
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,840
an antiterrorist control patrol car
had been there, he'd been arrested.

749
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,880
There were serious coordination failures

750
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,480
between the Civil Guard,
the National Police Corps,

751
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,120
and also of international cooperation.

752
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,120
There were many lines of investigation,

753
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,560
but none of them were concrete.

754
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,560
We knew they had a lot of explosives

755
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,960
and that they would go on killing

756
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,560
while the could.

757
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,760
Some security guards
who were patrolling near the AVE rails saw

758
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,800
a suspicious vehicle,
with two individuals acting suspiciously

759
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,200
and they called the Civil Guard.
The people who were there

760
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,400
noticed the movement
and that they had been found out and left.

761
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,560
They cut some of the wire
to access the rails

762
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,960
and they tried to plant
some explosives there.

763
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,400
12 kilograms of explosives
with their detonators had been placed

764
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,200
under the rail and hidden with rocks.
As the train passed,

765
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,520
they would've simply had
to detonate them manually.

766
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,040
They placed it a few meters
away from a bridge.

767
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,960
Had it exploded, it would've been
a similar carnage to that of March 11th.

768
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,320
Because of the way the explosive
device had been placed,

769
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,360
all the people on the train
would have died.

770
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,720
The General Information Precinct
already had information

771
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,920
about the possible perpetrators

772
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,280
of the attacks, and they were all
from a jihadist cell

773
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,840
that was mainly composed
of individuals from Morocco.

774
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,200
At that time the only one
that had been to Afghanistan

775
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,240
and had returned to Spain was Said Berraj.

776
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Said Berraj had to have been the one

777
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,560
to teach them how to make the explosives.

778
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,960
We were investigating mainly

779
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,440
all the phone numbers
that had been in touch

780
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,640
or had had anything to do with the phones
that were used for the bombs.

781
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,080
A point came

782
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,320
when we had a map

783
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,040
that looked like a star
with hundreds of points,

784
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,120
here we placed the different phone numbers

785
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,240
owned by people who could
have been involved in the attacks.

786
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,360
One of the numbers really caught my eye

787
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,480
because it looked really similar
to the batch related to Said Berraj.

788
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,840
I decided to investigate the phone number

789
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,560
and we saw that the last incoming call

790
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,080
was from a Spaniard

791
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,000
that had rented an apartment
to some Arabs.

792
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,720
They had given him their foreign number

793
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,680
and the name of Mohamed Belhadj

794
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,200
and… at 3:00 PM…

795
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,880
I called my then boss, my superior…

796
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,080
and told him "I've found the security
apartment of the terrorists."

797
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,920
I asked, "Is there someone inside?"

798
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,480
And Rafa says,
"Yes, there are people inside."

799
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Abdelmajid Bouchar was one
of the people inside the apartment

800
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,160
and he went down to take out the trash.

801
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,360
This person notices
the presence of members

802
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,760
of the Central Unit
of Foreign Intelligence.

803
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,840
The units are dressed as civilians

804
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,800
and then he leaves
the bag in the container.

805
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,560
And he starts running.

806
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,760
The police couldn't stop him
at that time because

807
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,560
what we didn't know was that Abdelmajid
Bouchar was actually an athlete.

808
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,520
The guys up in the apartment

809
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,120
started shooting from the windows

810
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,920
and for us that was confirmation

811
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,640
that they were the terrorists.

812
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,440
The amount of explosives
that they may still have

813
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,320
could be high, very high.

814
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,480
It was likely they had it
in the apartment.

815
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,160
One of Morocco's State
security forces called me

816
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,040
since they already had the names
of the people we were looking for

817
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,000
and obviously the phones had been bugged.

818
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,320
They told me that they
had called their families in Morocco

819
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,840
to say goodbye.

820
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,640
He told me they believed
they were going to kill themselves.

821
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,360
The area is sealed off

822
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,960
and all the citizen security units
are mobilized,

823
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,800
and GEO is sent,

824
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,520
the Special Ops Group,

825
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,320
to carry out the assault
or to negotiate the terrorists' surrender.

826
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,760
We proceeded
and went up to the first floor

827
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,200
where the place they were living in was.

828
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,080
We put a controlled
explosive device on the door.

829
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,160
They started shooting from the inside

830
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,960
and we could hear chanting in Arabic.

831
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,440
The chief of the operation
ordered us to throw tear gas inside,

832
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,480
and a short while later we saw Javier,

833
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,320
who was the only one that could see inside
through the shield window,

834
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,680
signaled he could see someone

835
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,400
and he was talking to someone inside,
and he told him,

836
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,080
"Get out slowly, undress, undress."

837
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,320
The blast wave threw me into the air,

838
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,480
my eardrums were gone,
I could barely hear.

839
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,960
When the explosion's movement stopped

840
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,160
and I saw I was fine, I looked up
at the building, the assault was over,

841
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,080
everything was about, well, to collapse.

842
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,240
Then we all got to work

843
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,720
to rescue our teammates
who had been buried under the rubble.

844
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,400
We also took Javier out,

845
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,120
who was very injured at that moment.

846
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,680
An object cut his leg
and he didn't make it.

847
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,200
We found the remains of seven bodies,

848
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,080
completely destroyed.

849
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,800
The leaders of the cell
killed themselves there.

850
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,520
They were the ones
who put the backpacks in the train

851
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,160
getting on at Alcalá de Henares.

852
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,720
They got on different trains,
left the backpacks and got off

853
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,280
at intermediate stations.

854
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,920
The terrorists had started
but hadn't finished

855
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,880
a series of attacks they had planned.

856
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,160
They had a house

857
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,440
they had rented very close to Granada.

858
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,680
One of them left a will.

859
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,080
They were counting on the fact

860
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,680
if they weren't detained,
their goal was to…

861
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,720
their ultimate goal was to become
what they understand as…

862
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,160
a martyr.

863
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,880
The grave of GEO member Torronteras,

864
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,960
who died during the explosion,
was desecrated.

865
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,640
The coffin was pulled out,
the body was taken out and…

866
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,840
and burnt.

867
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,840
The ones who planned that out…

868
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,680
The ones I asked before…

869
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,240
when, who, and why…

870
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,200
They decided that day,
precisely that day…

871
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,320
Well, I don't think they are
in far away deserts.

872
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,960
Or that they're in far away mountains.

873
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,480
What do you mean by that?

874
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,480
Your honor, I'm saying what I said,

875
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,440
and if you want to know,

876
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,840
investigate it, your honor.

877
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,960
Don't ask me
to take responsibility on that.

878
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,320
I didn't have much information because
we weren't part of the investigation.

879
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,080
There were no meetings
in which we participated

880
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,240
and in which investigation tasks
were assigned or distributed to us.

881
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,640
That's after the 16th.

882
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,800
It doesn't make sense
that some common criminals

883
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,720
were able to plan and carry out

884
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,920
the largest terrorist attack
in the history of Europe,

885
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,680
and which even toppled a government.

886
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,000
You…

887
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,800
insist time and again
in pulling an esoteric link

888
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,080
between ETA and Al-Qaeda
not because you care about the truth,

889
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,080
because you care that the people--

890
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,200
what you care about is that the people
keep thinking that there is a link,

891
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,000
because that, somehow,

892
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,840
will allow you to keep defending the lies
you told between the 11th and the 14th.

893
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,560
You are the ones who cannot
live with the circumstances

894
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,760
in which you won.

895
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,840
You don't care about what's
on the reports, or the judicial process,

896
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,640
or the data, you don't care about that.

897
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,720
You have the irresistible need,

898
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,120
irresistible, to say the investigation
is not being carried out.

899
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,240
Today instead of the president
showing up, an agitator has shown up.

900
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,600
What were you laughing about,
your honors?

901
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,040
What we're talking about, your honors…

902
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,040
is of the death and permanent injuries

903
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,880
suffered by human beings.

904
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,200
Of losses that have filled us
with grief and bitterness.

905
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,920
What happened? What madness took over

906
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,560
this country in that moment?
Politics cannot steep that low. It can't.

907
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,440
The 11M commission was only there

908
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,080
so that politicians
could throw insults at each other

909
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,880
at the expense of the victims of the 11M.
It didn't serve any purpose.

910
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,600
Everything fell apart.

911
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,320
Why? Because there was a change,
and a new government came in.

912
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,800
That's the answer.

913
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,680
There was a smearing campaign
against the investigative judge,

914
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,760
against the prosecutor.

915
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,040
They wanted, at any cost,

916
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,120
the perpetrators
to be the terrorist organization ETA.

917
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,000
A conspiracy theory was created.

918
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,120
Pedro J. Ramírez,
from the newspaper El Mundo

919
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,320
along with Federico Jiménez Losantos,

920
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,640
who at that time worked at the COPE,

921
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:40,960
starts spreading stories

922
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,760
to hoist a flag

923
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,960
saying that it wasn't clear
who the perpetrators were.

924
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,560
We ended up turning coincidences

925
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,840
into evidence and putting them
on the front page

926
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,520
with a great reach.

927
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:02,320
Several theories start circulating
and they always include

928
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,920
a link with ETA,

929
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,000
with the Spanish secret service

930
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,520
working for the socialist party…

931
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,440
The conservation of the trains

932
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,200
has also been the target of many theories.

933
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,040
The contention point here
is to understand either that the trains

934
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,720
are the scene of a crime
or that they are evidence for convictions.

935
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,680
The trains are a crime scene that,

936
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,240
after the police has inspected it

937
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:28,240
and has gathered samples and evidence,

938
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,600
goes back to normal.

939
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,840
They talked a lot about links
between ETA members

940
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,240
that had gone to Morocco.
Where did they find this information?

941
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:43,200
Morocco never provided
that information to us.

942
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,720
The intelligence services didn't either.

943
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,800
We are in a commercial war.
El Mundo has to leave

944
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,920
its right-wing newspaper competition,
Diario ABC, on the curbside.

945
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,680
Each time El Mundo
published a story like this,

946
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,200
with the support of the COPE,

947
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,640
the sales of El Mundo would go up,

948
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,319
and the sales of ABC would go down.

949
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,800
The efforts to mislead the discussion
of who was behind the 11M

950
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,800
is the most transcendental
and dirtiest journalistic deceit operation

951
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,000
in the history of Spanish journalism
since the transition to democracy.

952
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,439
There isn't even a reasonable margin,

953
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,600
not even to cast doubt…

954
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,680
that some people keep casting
with a good intention

955
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,000
that there was possible
cooperation between ETA and jihadists.

956
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,000
That cooperation has never existed.

957
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,960
There is absolutely no evidence
pointing to any kind of cooperation.

958
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,000
Neither direct nor indirect.

959
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,680
Every attempt at linking the attacks

960
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,640
with the terrorist organization
ETA was absolutely fraudulent.

961
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,800
There was nothing.

962
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,480
Since the beginning, everything pointed
to a jihadist cell.

963
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,400
A damage was done,

964
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,200
unnecessary, gratuitous, and unfair,

965
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,960
to the people who were
just doing their job.

966
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,560
Some journalists,

967
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,200
including Jiménez Losantos,
accused me directly

968
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,640
of being responsible
for a police scheme…

969
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,320
that had planned the attacks.

970
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,320
That I had been an accomplice
of a criminal massacre

971
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,000
and had filled the 11M report
with false evidence.

972
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,840
My wife, my children…

973
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,080
tried to act normal around me, but…

974
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,240
They were carrying
their suffering deep inside

975
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,680
and, in fact, unfortunately, well…

976
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,400
The consequences were lethal.

977
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:48,640
To understand what happened
on March 11th, 2004 in Madrid,

978
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,120
we have to go back ten years…

979
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,200
to 1994.

980
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,080
That was the year when an Al-Qaeda cell

981
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,560
was formed in Spain.

982
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,760
The Al-Qaeda cell in Spain was formed
by people who had military experience

983
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,760
with the Muslim Brotherhood
that had fled Syria.

984
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,480
They left an influential leader
in their place,

985
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,200
and it was Abu Dahdah.

986
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,160
A real cell begins to form
around Abu Dahdah.

987
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,760
They get married to Spanish women

988
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,920
so they can get the citizenship quickly
and their only way of life

989
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,600
is to prepare for the jihad.

990
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,200
This cell carried out

991
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,040
financing, radicalization, and recruiting.

992
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,360
Abu Dahdah travelled

993
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,920
at least 10 or 12 times
a year with the money

994
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,680
they had collected in mosques in Madrid

995
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,800
to give it directly to Abu Qutada
in London.

996
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,480
Two months before September 11,

997
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,000
someone, possibly from Afghanistan,

998
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,920
told Abu Dahdah
that they had entered the aviation field.

999
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,160
The call was in Arabic,
so we asked the translator,

1000
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,800
"What do they mean by aviation field?

1001
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,600
Do they mean they're in an airfield?"

1002
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,760
But the translator would say,

1003
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,400
"No, it means that they have started
to work in the field of aviation."

1004
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,640
The Hamburg cell, led by Mohamed Atta,

1005
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,960
had been in touch
with the Spanish Al-Qaeda cell

1006
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,360
led by Abu Dahdah.

1007
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,440
We went to see a judge,
we said, "We believe

1008
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,240
that the cell has somehow participated
or knew about it beforehand.

1009
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,680
And… I think we should stop them."

1010
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,200
The Dátil operation

1011
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,360
that dismantled the Spanish Al-Qaeda
cell was the most important operation

1012
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,640
against Al-Qaeda carried out
in Western Europe

1013
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,000
since the 9/11 attacks.

1014
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:12,320
Most of Abu Dahdah's
cell members are detained,

1015
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,760
including their leader.

1016
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,080
However, not all the members
of the cell are detained.

1017
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,200
Amer Azizi, originally from Morocco

1018
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,520
and a resident from Madrid,

1019
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:28,520
was Abu Dahdah's right hand man
in the Spanish Al-Qaeda cell.

1020
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,440
He was going to be detained that day
when Operation Dátil happened.

1021
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,640
But what we didn't know
is that he wasn't there.

1022
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,400
Later on, we found out
he had left to Afghanistan.

1023
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:47,120
He decided to plot revenge against Spain

1024
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,600
because of the operation
that had dismantled

1025
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,560
Abu Dahdah's cell

1026
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,240
that he had belonged to
until November 2001.

1027
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,440
Amer Azizi, from Pakistan, started

1028
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,600
to give orders so that the remaining
members of Abu Dahdah's cell

1029
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,440
that hadn't been detained
would start to meet and create a new cell.

1030
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,800
Amer Azizi takes that decision
in December 2001

1031
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,120
accompanied by a well-known operative

1032
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:28,280
of the Islamic group fighting in Libya.

1033
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,360
Throughout this process…

1034
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,680
of planification… Amer Azizi

1035
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,520
becomes part of central Al-Qaeda.

1036
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,760
He begins to climb the ranks

1037
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,440
inside the Al-Qaeda organization.

1038
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:03,240
He's appointed by Osama Bin Laden himself

1039
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,360
as Al-Qaeda's external operations
deputy chief.

1040
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,040
Amer Azizi manages

1041
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,960
to have his plans to carry out
a terrorist attack in Spain

1042
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:30,560
approved by Al-Qaeda's leaders themselves

1043
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,720
through their external operations command.

1044
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:18,080
In the 11M terrorist network,
there are three main components.

1045
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,840
First, what was left of Abu Dahdah's cell.

1046
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,640
The second component is provided
by the Islamic fighting group from Morocco

1047
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,280
through their Western Europe network.

1048
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,520
And the third component

1049
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,200
is formed by the common criminals
turned jihadists

1050
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,200
that joined in the summer of 2003.

1051
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,640
Thus it would be a great mistake

1052
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,280
to reduce the March 11 network

1053
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,520
to a small group of criminals
radicalized by the Iraq War.

1054
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,640
The trial lasted over six months,
it had over 600 witnesses,

1055
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,440
over 90 expert witnesses, 52 lawyers.

1056
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,640
It was a sentence
that was studying in depth

1057
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,600
every allegation of each of the parties.

1058
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,320
The defendants were not all accused
of the same thing.

1059
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,480
We had a main group that was being accused
of having strictly committed the attacks.

1060
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,400
Others were accused
of belonging to one of the cells.

1061
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:33,160
Others were accused of collaborating,
others of falsifying documents,

1062
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,520
and others
of having provided the explosives.

1063
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,560
In the end, it ended up being
a technically complicated trial.

1064
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,160
The big question was
who was the mastermind

1065
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,880
and why were the attacks
in Madrid planned?

1066
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,320
What was the reason?

1067
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,600
At the trial,
they weren't able to determine

1068
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,760
why there wasn't a clear mastermind

1069
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,200
behind the attacks on March 11.

1070
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,600
We had a warrant for his search and arrest

1071
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,960
regarding his ties to the Madrid cell.

1072
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,400
We weren't able to figure out
where he was.

1073
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:54,320
Of course we couldn't locate him,

1074
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,840
and thus we weren't able
to prosecute him at that time.

1075
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,720
We got information
that an American drone had struck

1076
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,760
a meeting attended
by high-ranking leaders of Al-Qaeda

1077
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,280
and that when they checked the rubble,

1078
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,440
they found Amer Azizi.

1079
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:08,800
When Amer Azizi died,

1080
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,640
the missing piece to figure out

1081
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:17,040
how the 2004 attacks
in Madrid were planned

1082
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:21,040
was given by a document
from US authorities,

1083
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,920
where they detailed how Azizi had died
and whom he was with.

1084
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:33,280
This information was provided
by the United Sates intelligence services

1085
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,840
to Spanish authorities

1086
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,880
in September 2006.

1087
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:45,480
And again, a more detailed briefing
on Amer Azizi

1088
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,800
and his role in jihadist activities

1089
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,040
in Spain on March 11th

1090
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,400
was again provided in September 2007.

1091
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,520
Azizi's relevance was not understood

1092
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,600
until he was killed,
along with his boss Hamza Rabia,

1093
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,400
discrediting the theory that the 11M cell

1094
01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:32,320
was composed of radicals inspired

1095
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,200
by the words of Osama Bin Laden

1096
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,120
that wanted to contribute to his fight
without having any connection to him.

1097
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,040
If this had been known
at the time the trial took place,

1098
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,840
the final conclusion
would have been different.

1099
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,520
Azizi is the key piece of the puzzle

1100
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,120
that allows us to understand
everything that has happened

1101
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,080
and understand the reason
and meaning of the attacks.

1102
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:14,280
The government
didn't have enough empathy

1103
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,920
for the shock Spain's society
was going through.

1104
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,720
If I had been the president
of the government at that time,

1105
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,480
the first thing I would've done
is go to Atocha.

1106
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,680
If Aznar had summoned

1107
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,840
the leaders
of each political party to Moncloa…

1108
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,640
Maybe in an act
of condemnation and solidarity…

1109
01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:40,360
Spain is being attacked.

1110
01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:41,800
We are all together,

1111
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,600
and we're going to face this together.

1112
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,160
Whomever the perpetrator is,

1113
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:51,520
they're not confronting the government.
They're confronting the country

1114
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,320
and all its political forces.

1115
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,840
This picture didn't come about.

1116
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,840
We would've all understood,

1117
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:02,000
and we wouldn't feel like

1118
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,560
we were deceived.

1119
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,840
If at that time the president had asked
all the citizens to remain calm

1120
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,480
that democracy shall remain victorious,

1121
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,200
and that in two days there's an electoral
date, and that they can vote as they like

1122
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,000
as long as everyone goes to vote,
he would've crushingly won the election.

1123
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:55,520
It's a sad date, it's a date that
had a very negative impact

1124
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,280
on the political
and social evolution of Spain, no doubt.

1125
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,520
When we talk about 11M…

1126
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,480
we almost forget
that we're talking about the dead.

1127
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,600
The victims have shown me
the best part of human beings.

1128
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:27,680
Gratefulness.

1129
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,680
Respect and understanding.

1130
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,720
It's something that you learn
to live with. But you never forget.

1131
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,760
When someone dies,

1132
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,960
they keep on living in other
people's memories, but it's very hard.

1133
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,960
We really miss them.

1134
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,280
I don't want to…

1135
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,920
revictimize myself, I am a survivor
and that's how I see myself.

1136
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,320
I'd like to believe something like this
won't ever happen again,

1137
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,320
but of course
what we must not do is forget.