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Sport is a reflection
of the world we live in.
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And there are a bunch
of nefarious characters.
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There's always something going on.
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Power, politics -
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- money, corruption.
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The darker recesses of the games.
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When you think of a hacker,
you think of someone -
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- who's in a basement
hacking into complex security systems.
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And what he did was pretty simple.
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He just found the weakest point.
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When I gave that click, I opened the
door. He just took everything he wanted.
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18 million documents, e-mails,
contracts, spreadsheets.
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Cristiano Ronaldo faces a conviction
for tax fraud.
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It opens a window in society
that was not supposed to be opened.
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We were facing a colossal fraud.
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What is Doyen? A company in London
which is owned by these Kazakh mafiosi.
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It was the Wolf of Wall Street
invading football.
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We were not dealing with
Mickey Mouse money but serious money.
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Constantly you're wondering who's the
puppet master behind these revelations.
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Of course it raises the alarms.
"Do we have a rat inside?"
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He said to me,
"Clean football and clear my name."
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Nobody knew who was doing it and what
would come next. It could be them.
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I don't like too much media exposure.
I preserve my privacy a lot.
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So I don't know how your
script for this thing is -
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- and I don't care in the end.
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Unless you're going to portrait me as
the big bandito in the world of football.
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But okay, let's go.
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In 2015, Nélio Lucas was doing great.
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He was doing business with every
Portuguese club.
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Nélio Lucas is heading one of the major
investment funds in football.
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He's having a nice time at the beach,
so thanks once again for being here.
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Nélio Lucas created a company
named Doyen Sports Investment.
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They were presented in the beginning
as someone there to help clubs.
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The biggest assets of the clubs
are the players.
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And you give them an alternative finance
for them to acquire those assets.
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What does soccer need? A better
and more fair distribution of the money.
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Fair competition, equal opportunities
and professionalism.
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If a club couldn't afford a player,
instead of going to the bank -
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- they would go to Doyen,
who would then buy part of that player.
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And then that same player would be sold
for 20-30 million euros -
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- and their margin of profit
would be huge.
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So they had a nice business model.
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From all the big clubs to the players to
the agencies. We worked with everybody.
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We became probably
the most prominent and powerful -
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- powerhouse in the industry.
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In only four years, they invested more
than 100 million euros in players -
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- and managed the interest
of very famous people -
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- like Xavi Hernández,
Neymar or David Beckham.
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So it was a remarkable success
in such a short time.
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He was dining in London's most
expensive restaurants, driving a Bentley.
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He owned a yacht worth more
than three million euros.
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Always on the phone, in a plane.
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I was a phone call away
from any president, manager, player.
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If I call a president and they see
my number, they'll know it's important.
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On my WhatsApp, I say that I'm always
available for a good deal.
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I understood the industry -
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- and I think it was successful.
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I remember exactly where I was
when it first emerged.
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I was walking back to my office.
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I got a text from a Brazilian lawyer.
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And he said,
"Have you seen Football Leaks?"
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I had no idea what he was talking
about, and he sent me this link.
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It was to this website.
It was called Football Leaks.
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And it had some player contracts on it.
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There was very confidential information
posted there.
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My immediate reaction was "Oh God!",
because I was writing a book -
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- about the player trading market, and
it was so hard to get player contracts.
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And someone's just put a website on
and is giving it away.
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We thought of it like some kind
of WikiLeaks, a website -
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- where someone was posting confidential
documents they somehow had obtained.
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We weren't used to reading
those kind of documents.
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They had details and little clauses.
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And they seemed legitimate.
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On their website, they had a statement...
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...saying they wanted to bring some light
into the darkness of the football world.
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They were sick of how dirty
the football industry was -
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- and owed it to supporters
to show the true face of football.
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I tried to e-mail the guys
from the website -
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- but they never answered my e-mails.
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"John" appeared when he decided to speak
to the New York Times.
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He presented himself as "John" -
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- and as a representative of a group
of people behind Football Leaks.
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When you read about John's interview
with New York Times, how did that feel?
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It sucked.
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Initially, people didn't get
the dimensions or the scale of this.
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And then it kind of exploded into life.
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It was very important to Real Madrid -
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- that they kept their biggest star happy,
and it wasn't Gareth Bale but Ronaldo -
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- who was bought years earlier
for a world-record fee.
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So, publicly they stated a fee -
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- in the 90 millions for Gareth Bale.
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It is a world-record deal, right?
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I don't want to get involved with that.
That's not for us to comment on.
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- But it's not a bad deal.
- Towards 90 million is a lot of money.
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I'm not gonna comment on the amount,
but he's worth every penny.
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Football Leaks showed -
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- this contract that says
Gareth Bale cost 101 million euros.
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It's quite funny.
You cannot upset Cristiano Ronaldo.
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When these leaks were published -
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- I was absolutely shocked and disgusted.
I just think it's so wrong.
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It's just nobody's business.
It's a private thing.
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It kind of blows you away
even now to think about.
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You have some of the biggest
figures in football, whether it's Neymar -
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- or Gareth Bale -
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- and the biggest transaction is just
being pushed out on a random website.
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It created a lot of fear because
nobody knew who was doing it -
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- and no one knew what would
come next. It could be them.
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If you talk about sports in Portugal,
you talk about football.
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People are glued to the screen -
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- and many people choose football
over family and work.
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Football is a lifestyle in Portugal.
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You have a huge passion
regarding three main clubs:
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Benfica, Porto and Sporting.
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I was born into football.
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My very first memory is of FC Porto -
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- and I made it my life,
both playing and being a fan.
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I always loved the magic -
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- the cheering, the fumes, the flags,
the chants. All those things.
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Daily, daily, daily...
I've done it my whole life -
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- and I'm still here.
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Benfica is the biggest club in Portugal
with the biggest amount of fans.
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And then you have Porto.
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They represent an anti-capital,
anti-power force from the north.
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Benfica is our biggest rival.
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To me, Benfica represents corruption
and the state.
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We're like Israel and Palestine,
like Ukraine and Russia.
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I clearly remember
the day of the first contact.
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I was having lunch nearby.
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I got a weird e-mail.
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So I reply, "How can I verify
the authenticity of this material?"
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A few minutes later,
I receive another e-mail.
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It was screenshots of Benfica's
e-mail inbox.
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So I reply, "Okay, looks real.
Do you have more?"
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That is how I got 20 gigabytes
of information.
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It was an exchange of e-mails between
a highly respected referee -
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- and someone from Benfica's management -
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- in which they assumed that the referees
were being controlled by Benfica.
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Most shocking was a list of phone numbers,
addresses -
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- and things about
the private lives of referees.
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Their lovers, girlfriends,
ex-girlfriends.
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This referee's girlfriend,
the daughter of that guy and so on.
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It was absolutely shameful.
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This is very serious.
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It can be used
to manipulate the referees.
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This was absolutely shocking.
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We were facing colossal fraud.
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I knew that the material we had
was explosive.
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Should I go to the police?
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Or make it public?
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...those were referees who were
at the service of Benfica.
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This is a referee corruption scheme
in favour of Benfica.
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Over the course of six months,
we revealed e-mails -
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- showing Benfica's fraud.
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Benfica wanted me arrested live on tv,
while I was reading the material on air.
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These are phone numbers I've blocked -
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- because Benfica fans were calling
and sending me death threats.
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Eventually, my family and I had to move
because of that.
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I thought, "Who's sending me this?
A hacker?"
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A very good hacker, apparently.
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I never learned who was sending me this.
I asked, but the person didn't reply.
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This person was highly critical
of the football world.
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This Doyen Group were clearly -
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- the biggest investors in third-party
ownership and they came out of nowhere.
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We wanted to know more about them.
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I got 20 minutes with Nélio, who I was
really looking forward to talking to.
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He was the front man for this business.
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This slick agent.
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Sharp-suited, shiny shoes, good teeth.
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I asked him at the time,
"Who are your investors?"
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"They're very rich. They're private."
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"They're so rich
that this is just a plaything for them."
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It was very hard to get any information.
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Someone called me and pointed me
to this website. It came out of nowhere.
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It was strange.
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Once Football Leaks happened,
one of the stories -
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- had the schematic organisation chart
and the company structure.
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There was a holding company in Malta -
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- and a split of assets
with this Nélio Lucas.
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For me it was like, "God,
we've been looking for this for years!"
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Of course it raised the alarms. "Where is
this coming from? Who's doing it?"
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"Do we have a rat? Is this my shadow?
Is this my right hand?"
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"My lawyer? My IT guy? Who is it?"
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I went to my lawyers, and we pressed
charges against whatever was behind this.
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And we did it in Portugal
because the website was in Portuguese.
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The day they filed it to the authorities -
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- was the day
I received the first e-mail -
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- from the person behind Football Leaks.
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At a certain point in time,
the people behind Football Leaks stopped -
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- publishing documents on the website.
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And they gave the exclusive
to Der Spiegel.
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We got a call from Der Spiegel
who told us:
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"Look. We've contacted one of the guys
behind the Football Leaks website."
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"He accepted to give us a lot of data."
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There were more
than 18 million documents.
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Everything from e-mails, contracts,
pictures, video, spreadsheets.
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Nobody knew how many documents
there were -
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- and which documents
would be published next.
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So it created quite a sense of fear
in the football world.
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These stories showed
the structures built -
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- in order for these guys to be paid.
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They suggested that there was
an element of potential tax evasion -
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- linked to some of the world's
biggest players.
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Coaches, players and agents
used fiscal planning -
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- in an extreme way
with the clear goal of paying less taxes.
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There was Lionel Messi's tax affairs.
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José Mourinho at the time.
Cristiano Ronaldo was involved.
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It attracted the attention
of tax authorities across Europe.
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Cristiano Ronaldo
had to go to court in Madrid -
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- to plead guilty to the charges
against him of tax fraud.
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I was in Madrid to watch this trial.
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It was a very intense day
with a lot of information.
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There was a lot of confusion
and excitement.
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The world's best player was in court,
not knowing what could happen.
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Cristiano Ronaldo faces
a conviction for tax fraud.
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He will pay 19 million euros -
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- to clear his criminal record
and avoid a prison sentence.
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I can imagine the fear that gripped world
football as these leaks were coming out.
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Who's gonna be next?
Because this did have consequences.
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I was in my house in London.
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It was very early in the morning -
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- and I received an e-mail
from this person, Artem Lobuzov.
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Would you mind reading out the e-mails?
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The first e-mail...
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"The leak is much bigger
than you can imagine ..."
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"The entire operation of Doyen is known.
The loans coming from the investors -
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- the business model in Brazil,
Turkey and Central Asia." Bla, bla...
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"All this and much more can appear online.
Surely you shouldn't want that, right?"
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"But we can talk."
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This was serious, of course it was.
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You don't want a guy inside your house,
removing your things in your bedroom -
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- taking out your underwear, opening
your safe and trying to get access to it.
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He continued, "I have no interest
in harming you or your collaborators."
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"I have nothing against you,
even respect for the way -
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- you rose to the top
of the football world."
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And then my reply, "I don't know
who you are, but what do you want?"
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I was trying to understand
who was behind this.
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And his immediate reply was very short
as well. "A generous donation -
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- and you can be sure that all the
information will be deleted right away."
241
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Then I asked, "What do you mean
by generous donation?"
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"Somewhere between
500 thousand and 1 million -
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- will be a good donation
for this material."
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Actually, I was surprised.
I thought it would be much more.
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You start to think,
"What information does he have?"
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"What is he going to publish?"
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I thought, "Okay,
we are dealing with a guy -
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- in Russia, China or North Korea."
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But to make this even more bizarre,
he said to us:
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"We can resolve this easily
and in the greatest possible secrecy -
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- between preferred lawyers."
I thought this was a joke.
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How can lawyers be involved
in extortion -
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- or in this kind of operation?
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Artem Lobuzov presented his own lawyer.
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And a meeting was arranged -
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- at a gas station on a highway -
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- on the outskirts of Lisbon.
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The term "super agent" is made up by the
press. I'm not quite sure what it means.
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If you ask me personally,
I'm a super person, so...
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The role of agents in football
is a controversial one.
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They are the oil of the transfer industry
that has grown to seven billion dollars.
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As far as I can tell, you are
the most successful agent in the world?
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I haven't counted other people's money,
but numbers-wise -
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- and business-wise, I think
we are the most successful in the world.
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There are a handful of these people -
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- at the centre of world football.
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They will start with Pini Zahavi,
Mino Raiola -
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- Jorge Mendes and Jonathan Barnett.
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They determine where some
of the best talent ends up.
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Gareth Bale is the one I'm best known
for being associated with -
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- because we broke the world record.
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It just propelled us to the very top.
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For the agents who have spent decades
earning huge amounts of money -
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- there was no great transparency about
how they earned it -
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- and exactly how much.
That suited them just fine.
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Football Leaks showed -
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- this huge commission they could make
and how they made it -
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- the mechanisms inside the contracts.
And some of it was quite ugly.
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One of the most significant stories
in Football Leaks -
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- was the story of Paul Pogba's transfer
back to Manchester United -
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- from Juventus...
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...and the amount of money
that went to Paul Pogba's agent.
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It showed that he was paid tens of
millions of euros for his role in this -
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- just to be the man
who could get this thing done.
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That just seems absolutely insane.
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Mino made quite a lot of money.
Does that make him greedy?
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I don't think so.
It makes him quite clever.
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Every fan in the world wants their team
to have the best players.
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They should be thankful to the agent
for getting them.
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I think it's people being jealous.
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Would you go as far as to say that you
don't care about what fans think of you?
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About me? I don't give a damn.
293
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:37.275
Nélio Lucas was communicating
with this Artem Lobuzov for several weeks.
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He actually sent a contact of a lawyer who
was ready to sit with us. Very bizarre.
295
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The police said, "Find a public place
you're comfortable with."
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"And I'm sure someone will protect you
in case something goes wrong."
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I set the place,
which was in a gas station in Oeiras.
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I wanted a place with other people.
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I didn't know if the lawyer was coming.
"Is he coming alone or with someone else?"
300
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:19.515
Imagine you go to a place, there
is a truck, and they push you inside it.
301
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Of course it's scary.
302
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The judiciary police was on the outside
of the gas station.
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00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:36.076
And they had two police officers
inside, at a table nearby -
304
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- so they could listen in on the
conversation and act if necessary.
305
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.076
The emotions as you can imagine
were quite powerful -
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- because you don't know what to expect.
307
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Fortunately, it was just a meeting
between us and this lawyer.
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It started like normal people.
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"Hello, good afternoon, how are you?
My name is this, my name is that."
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They tried to propose a way
to transform this thing -
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- into a document.
312
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They were trying to find a way
that it wasn't blackmail.
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00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:23.435
Then I interrupted and said,
"Look, actually I would like to speak."
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"First thing I don't understand is how you
are going to transform extortion -
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- into a contract?
It sounds very bizarre."
316
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.995
Nélio Lucas' goal was to make
Aníbal Pinto speak -
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- so they could get more leads -
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00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:45.316
- in order to discover
who was really behind the attack.
319
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.995
During my conversation with him,
I was trying to portray the fact -
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- that if this guy is really talented -
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- instead of paying him for the silence
I would like him to work for me.
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I created a way to try
to push more from him -
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- and it actually worked.
324
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:11.356
Aníbal Pinto gave me some idea
of his qualifications.
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First of all he said: "This guy is
very talented with computers."
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"And he never gets caught. I helped him
in a case with a bank in the Caymans."
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"He took money, and in the end
I managed to save him."
328
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.715
That was interesting
for the police investigators.
329
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.755
They started to see
a lot of coincidences -
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- with a case that happened
two years before.
331
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:48.400
They were wondering, "I wonder
if it's the same person behind this."
332
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John in 2018 got in touch with me -
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00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.236
- by encrypted mail.
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00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.320
He was looking for a lawyer, because
he was quite scared to be arrested.
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00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:43.635
I've been a lawyer for 40 years, dedicated
to defend main whistleblowers.
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00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.876
I'm still the lawyer of Edward Snowden -
337
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.595
- and Antoine Deltour,
who is at the origin of LuxLeaks.
338
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.480
And Hervé Falciani, Swiss Leaks.
339
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.719
So, of course I was interested
in Football Leaks.
340
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:09.760
I flew to Budapest in August 2018...
341
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...just to explore how I could help him.
342
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:21.756
We had a drink and dinner -
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- and we talked extensively
about his case.
344
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It was important to obtain
his confidence.
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And he said to me, as a roadmap -
346
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- as a clear frontier:
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"I want to clean football
and clear my name."
348
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:44.880
"Clean football and clear my name."
349
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.035
Football Leaks presented Doyen
as an evil organisation.
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They started exhibiting contracts
between us and the clubs.
351
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:14.119
And they would really portray us
very bad. Very unfairly bad.
352
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:24.196
The only goal of Doyen Sports
was to make money.
353
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:29.000
It was the Wolf of Wall Street
invading football.
354
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:44.836
They were very strict
and very detailed contracts.
355
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:49.995
If there was an offer above a certain
amount for a player -
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00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.515
- the clubs were forced to sell.
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00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.356
If the player is sold for this amount -
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- Doyen will get 10-50% of the money
that they have invested.
359
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.400
We haven't seen any contract
like this before.
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00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.356
Towards the end of 2018, there were
revelations that really shook the game.
361
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.916
Thousands and thousands of documents...
362
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.995
It was the whole panorama of football -
363
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.995
- exposed in different ways.
364
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.360
How is this all likely to rock
the global game?
365
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:36.676
Manchester City, this team that is owned
by the brother of the ruler of Abu Dhabi -
366
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.480
- had allegedly inflated its revenues -
367
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:49.075
- in a way that, what the revelation
showed, was an illegal way.
368
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:53.276
Massive breaking news. UEFA
has decided that Manchester City -
369
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.360
- are to be hit hard
for breaking financial rules.
370
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:11.876
Also around that time, this story
that is still having disastrous effects -
371
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.995
- for the FIFA president
Gianni Infantino appeared.
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00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.716
This is about these meetings
between the FIFA president -
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00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.880
- and the then prosecutor general
of Switzerland.
374
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:31.599
And that investigation into Infantino
and those meetings remains ongoing.
375
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:39.515
Another very significant one was a story
about some of Europe's biggest clubs -
376
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.115
- hatching a plot to create
a breakaway super league.
377
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.876
It would affect
every single fan in Europe -
378
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:50.155
- and fundamentally rock
the football business.
379
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.515
This super league project
did materialise -
380
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.716
- albeit in such a poor fashion
that it collapsed in 48 hours.
381
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:04.239
But it's the closest football has come
to a seismic breakaway of its kind.
382
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.756
There was a general revulsion
from a lot of the public.
383
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:17.000
You had a sense that there was
a decay in football.
384
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.635
But these leaks confirmed it.
385
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:26.756
That the game had lost its bearings -
386
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.995
- had become unmoored from
what football was -
387
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.876
- which was these football teams
in their local community -
388
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:39.239
- giving a few hours of distraction
to people.
389
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.635
Instead it's this often vulgar business -
390
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:53.115
- where power and money are colliding -
391
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:58.960
- and a few actors are able to take
what they can from the people's game.
392
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.995
Constantly you're wondering,
"Who is the puppet master -
393
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.280
- behind these revelations?"
394
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:33.035
At that point in time,
the football atmosphere -
395
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.276
- in Portugal was completely toxic.
396
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:40.440
This is a referee corruption scheme
in favour of Benfica.
397
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:47.760
We were trying to find out more about
who was behind the Benfica leaks case.
398
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.840
And we were calling people,
calling sources.
399
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.276
We started to hear some rumours -
400
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.400
- but no one was telling his name.
401
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:09.440
But in early September 2018, a case
that involved Benfica got to its end.
402
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.876
And when it ended, a source told us:
403
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:18.475
"Go there and have a look
into the appendices of the process."
404
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.876
"Okay. Why?"
405
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:25.716
"Because the guy you're looking for,
his name is there."
406
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.639
And we went,
"Wow! Okay. Let's have a look."
407
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:49.115
In the morning, I went to the court.
408
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.955
I had asked for permission to see -
409
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.800
- the files about the investigation.
410
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:10.475
There was a folder
which had the case about Benfica.
411
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.035
I was looking, looking, looking -
412
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.480
- until I got to a page.
413
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:23.796
There was a written note
by the public attorney.
414
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:27.995
It described part of the investigation -
415
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:33.199
- and part of the meeting
at the gas station on the highway.
416
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.635
"This investigation originated
in a complaint by Doyen Sports -
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00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:46.115
- against unknown. The complaint is from
Nélio Lucas against Artem Lobuzov."
418
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:50.475
"There's an identified suspect."
419
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.356
And there it was.
420
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.719
Rui Pinto.
421
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:03.276
That's how I found the name of Rui Pinto.
422
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.119
It was in the public documents.
423
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:19.635
- Do you have the magazine with you?
- Yes.
424
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.800
- Can we see it?
- Sure. You haven't seen it before?
425
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.035
The headline says, "The hacker
who stole the Benfica secrets."
426
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.196
Then it has a small text saying
he's an IT genius -
427
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:39.435
- and that he created Football Leaks
with information from Doyen -
428
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.276
- Real Madrid, Porto and Sporting -
429
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:47.115
- and he's being investigated
in Portugal and in Spain.
430
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.035
We found out that he was a young guy
from Porto -
431
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.435
- and that he was living abroad.
432
00:43:54.519 --> 00:44:00.356
And that he was like a self-made man
in terms of IT knowledge.
433
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.196
On Sábado magazine's front page -
434
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:08.316
- the man suspected of stealing secrets
from Benfica is a Portuguese hacker...
435
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.756
When we published that story, it was
all over the news for weeks and weeks.
436
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.276
Rui Pinto created Football Leaks.
437
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.760
In 2015, he started getting into football,
the mess with companies and clubs.
438
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:26.995
For months, Rui Pinto's father
and sister were the targets of wiretaps.
439
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:32.196
But one day, they intercepted a message
on the telephone of Rui Pinto's father -
440
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:36.880
- about the purchase of flight tickets
to Budapest, Hungary.
441
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.475
Rui Pinto's father and stepmother
were followed from the airport -
442
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:55.599
- to his apartment in Budapest.
443
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.276
Then Rui Pinto was surprised at home
early in the morning -
444
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.196
- by the Hungarian police,
who served a European arrest warrant -
445
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:17.920
- with Rui Pinto's name on it,
issued by the Portuguese authorities.
446
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.836
The arrest of the mastermind
of Football Leaks -
447
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:35.280
- was a global headline
because of the years of crazy stories.
448
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.995
Hi. This is Rui Pinto. I am John -
449
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.159
- the whistleblower from Football Leaks.
450
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:18.920
John, Rui Pinto, Artem,
it is all the same person.
451
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:26.316
There he was with this hair.
This is the guy behind Football Leaks.
452
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.716
Your face drops.
453
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:35.356
It was quite funny in a way
that this small kid -
454
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.955
- had unleashed what he had.
455
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:44.035
This spiky-haired university student -
456
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:48.800
- with a backpack
and a cherubic, childlike face.
457
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:54.435
It just did not fit the mould -
458
00:46:54.519 --> 00:47:00.159
- of a man who has brought so
much chaos into the world of football.
459
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:05.595
That's the fascinating part of it.
Because when you think of a hacker -
460
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:10.316
- you think of someone who's in
a basement doing very complicated stuff -
461
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.995
- hacking into complex security systems.
462
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:19.199
And what he did was pretty simple.
He just did some phishing.
463
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:27.075
He just sent e-mails to people. And people
don't know how to use computers.
464
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:34.159
I received an e-mail, apparently from the
sports director of FC Porto at that time -
465
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:40.396
- who wanted to share a file
with information on players.
466
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.435
Someone sends an e-mail
with an attachment or a link -
467
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:48.276
- that seems credible,
and people will click.
468
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:53.356
I considered it legit.
I pressed to open the file.
469
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.115
In a very logical and very simple way -
470
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.840
- he just found the weakest point
in an IT system.
471
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:06.756
Basically, when I gave that click,
I opened the door.
472
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:11.595
He just went there
and took everything he wanted.
473
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.480
Until he was caught.
474
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.356
The Portuguese authorities
issued a European arrest warrant -
475
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.280
- for him to be extradited to Portugal.
476
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:42.840
We knew that he would be put
on a plane soon.
477
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.960
In March 2019,
he was extradited to Portugal.
478
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.320
He was questioned by a judge
and sent to pre-trial detention.
479
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.916
And then it was a new chapter -
480
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.079
- of this saga, this soap opera.
481
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.000
He was sent to jail.
482
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:48.075
William Bourdon, whom I had worked with
on other cases -
483
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:52.955
- came to see me in my office
in the EU Parliament and told me:
484
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:59.356
"I've been called to defend a young guy
who's been arrested in Hungary."
485
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:03.876
"He's supposed to be the source
of Football Leaks."
486
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:08.599
"He's going to jail
and he will be tried in Portugal."
487
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:14.115
I said, "Portugal did nothing about -
488
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:18.115
- the money laundering
and tax evasion activities -
489
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.196
- that we could see
thanks to Football Leaks."
490
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.916
"And now they're going to focus
on the guy who has exposed -
491
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.639
- the illicit activity?"
492
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:34.995
And William asked,
"I will need a good lawyer in Portugal -
493
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.356
- to help me with his case."
494
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.679
So I put William in touch with
Francisco Teixeira da Mota.
495
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.995
William Bourdon and I came
to the conclusion -
496
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.035
- that it would be good to work together.
497
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:58.356
When he was in jail, we went there
once or twice a week.
498
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.515
He was not happy with
what we saw in football.
499
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.075
These third-party ownerships that were,
for him, destroying football.
500
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:11.475
He thought it was wrong
and hidden from society.
501
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:15.356
And he decided to make it public.
502
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:20.316
In Portugal there was a lot of excitement.
Everybody called him "the hacker".
503
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.836
He was being portrayed
in a very negative way.
504
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:27.716
And I was asking all the time,
"How come the Portuguese authorities -
505
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:32.039
- take a complaint from Doyen
and then go after Rui Pinto?"
506
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.995
The second award goes to a person -
507
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.519
- who is now in custody in Portugal.
508
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:50.276
About that time, one of the political
groups of the European Parliament -
509
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:53.800
- was giving an award to whistleblowers.
510
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:59.079
He's the architect of the
Football Leaks whistleblowing case.
511
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.760
I went there because among the awardees
was Rui Pinto.
512
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:12.316
Some powerful people
would prefer to keep the truth -
513
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:16.635
- about corruption in the football world
in the shadows, and this is unacceptable.
514
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.356
All supporters who are more committed
to the value of sports than to money -
515
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.480
- should support Rui Pinto.
516
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.916
Since Rui Pinto wasn't able to be there -
517
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:32.515
- they asked me if I would be able
to deliver this to him.
518
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:38.000
So I decided to ask permission
from the authorities to see him in jail.
519
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:52.756
I think he was pleased and felt
this was indeed a recognition -
520
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:57.635
- that part of the society really
appreciated what he had done.
521
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:03.196
The first time we met, I was surprised.
He looked much younger than he was -
522
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:07.716
- with a funny hair shape.
523
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.955
He was very serious and very persuaded -
524
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.880
- of the importance of what he had done.
525
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:21.519
I had to participate in something bigger.
I had to...
526
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.595
...try to make a difference.
527
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:30.756
Fortunately, I had the chance -
528
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.356
- to gather a quantity of documents -
529
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.955
- related to football.
530
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.960
Well, the next steps were to...
531
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.916
...try to expose what was wrong.
532
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:51.515
I was... impressed with the kid.
533
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.679
I was genuinely impressed.
534
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.719
Public opinion little by little changed.
535
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.995
Remember what happened in some stadiums.
536
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.719
"Thank you, Rui Pinto!"
537
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:16.159
"Free Pinto!"
538
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.515
People shouting, "Free Pinto!"
539
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.356
Because a community of players -
540
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.916
- understood that what Pinto did -
541
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:32.199
- makes him a friend of football.
542
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.995
Rui Pinto was in preventive detention -
543
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:46.599
- and there were many demonstrations
demanding the young man's release.
544
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:11.756
I saw on Facebook that there was
a demonstration in support of Rui Pinto.
545
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:18.435
I contacted the organization and asked
if I could bring 200-300 Porto fans.
546
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:23.000
We also decided to join, not only
as citizens but as supporters.
547
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:28.760
Because a person who did good
was being penalised.
548
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:36.435
I think Rui Pinto should be decorated
as a national hero -
549
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.316
- for making this discovery -
550
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:42.679
- and for having exposed it.
551
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.635
He was more than a year in prison.
552
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.876
He was angry and outraged -
553
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:02.435
- that the authorities had followed
the complaints of the crooks -
554
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.475
- and going after the whistleblower
instead of the crooks.
555
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:11.595
What matters for me and for Football Leaks
is that the documents are authentic.
556
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:17.435
I don't care about the origin.
I'm a whistleblower so I have to expose.
557
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.000
That's the only thing that matters to me.
558
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:34.955
Once I learned that Doyen was -
559
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:41.960
- the main accuser of Rui Pinto,
I did my own investigation into Doyen.
560
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:49.716
What do I find out? That it is -
561
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:53.276
- this company who doesn't even
have headquarters in Portugal.
562
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:58.236
That it's based in Malta.
Already quite suspicious.
563
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:02.159
That this Portuguese guy,
Nélio Lucas, is a front man.
564
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:07.836
Malta is in the European Union
and it's not forbidden nor a crime -
565
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:14.916
- to use a tax-efficiency jurisdiction
to optimise the results of your business.
566
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.356
If I can pay five instead of ten,
why should I pay ten?
567
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.679
For some reason, these things exist.
I didn't create them.
568
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:29.075
What did they have against us? Nothing.
569
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:32.635
They could claim, "These guys
are making a lot of money." Okay.
570
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:36.995
We were not dealing with
Mickey Mouse money but serious money.
571
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:42.119
So they tried to understand, "Who's
behind? Where is this money coming from?"
572
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.995
I was a witness in this court case
against Rui Pinto.
573
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.916
The day I was going to court to testify -
574
00:57:55.000 --> 00:58:00.836
- the judge asked, "Explain to me,
how did your partners make money?"
575
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.480
What a stupid question. I said,
"Look, I don't know how they make money."
576
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:13.995
Who's behind Nélio Lucas
is a very interesting question.
577
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:16.836
In the Football Leaks document
they write:
578
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:19.916
"Nélio Lucas must be
the only face of Doyen."
579
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:25.155
"Nobody must know who's behind it."
And who's behind -
580
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:31.396
- is a family of Kazakh-Turkish
oligarchs called the Arifs.
581
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:35.075
When the Berlin Wall
and the USSR collapsed -
582
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:38.356
- they made their fortunes
in mineral resources.
583
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.396
They built a huge and secret empire.
584
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:47.079
A maze of offshore companies in all
the worst tax havens on the planet.
585
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.276
There are four brothers -
586
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:59.595
- and Tevfik Arif is
the only public figure.
587
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:04.796
He was based first in Turkey.
Then he moved to the US -
588
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:11.119
- where he began to invest in real estate
in association with Donald Trump.
589
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.515
The US Congress has recently established
that they are an organisation -
590
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:24.075
- laundering money for the Russian mafia.
591
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.239
They thought that football
would be a good investment.
592
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:33.276
And at some point they decided
to create an office in London -
593
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.119
- that they called Doyen Sports.
594
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.396
In the beginning of the 2010s,
Tevfik Arif asks his son -
595
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.796
- Arif Efendi to go to London -
596
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.396
- to run Doyen Sports with Nélio Lucas.
597
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.955
Because of the past of the family,
their connections -
598
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:58.356
- in the heads of people,
this leads immediately -
599
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:02.995
- to something unknown
or strange or bizarre.
600
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:06.876
Immediately you see these people
with long beards, Kalashnikovs.
601
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:10.995
And no, these are people with suits,
big investments, international deals.
602
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:16.039
From there, you just invest your money
the best way possible.
603
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.435
The first thing that got the police
on the tail of Rui Pinto -
604
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:28.760
- was the meeting at the highway
between Nélio Lucas and Aníbal Pinto.
605
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:34.876
Aníbal Pinto mentioned,
that he had represented his client -
606
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:40.119
- in a previous investigation
where he had hacked into a bank.
607
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:49.396
A couple of years before Football Leaks,
someone was able to access the server -
608
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:54.960
- of the Caledonian Bank, an offshore
bank located on the Cayman Islands.
609
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:02.955
On September 18th, 2013, Rui Pinto
entered the Caledonian Bank servers -
610
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:07.276
- went to an account of a client
and transferred 46,000 dollars -
611
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.676
- to his own bank account
in Deutsche Bank in Lisbon.
612
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.639
That transfer went unnoticed.
613
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:19.955
But then in October, he went back
to the Caledonian Bank -
614
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.039
- and transferred 310,000 dollars.
615
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.995
That specific account was part
of a pensions fund -
616
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:34.196
- so they immediately noticed
that there was 300,000 dollars missing.
617
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:40.635
Initially Rui Pinto said, "No, I have
nothing to do with it. That's my money."
618
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:46.995
Then he recognised that the 310,000
dollars weren't his and gave it back -
619
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:51.679
- but he said
that the 46,000 dollars were his.
620
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:58.435
His lawyer, Aníbal Pinto, went to the
lawyers that represent Caledonian Bank -
621
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:02.756
- and said, "Okay, let's go to court.
I will call all your clients to testify -
622
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:06.716
- and the entire world will know
that the bank was hacked."
623
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:12.000
Immediately the lawyers from the bank
said, "No, let's find an agreement."
624
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:22.396
Rui Pinto would give back half
the money from those 46,000 dollars -
625
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:27.480
- and that's it. In judicial terms,
it's a closed case in Portugal.
626
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:31.800
Rui Pinto's record is clean.
627
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:39.035
But the Caledonian Bank tells us something
about Rui Pinto's past.
628
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:42.236
It doesn't fit with the story
he's telling about himself -
629
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:47.000
- as a whistleblower,
a Robin Hood of the football industry.
630
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:53.995
Correspondence violation,
hacking, IT fraud -
631
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:57.435
- illegitimate access, illegal tapping.
632
01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:02.276
The Caledonian Bank tells a story
of someone who went to a bank -
633
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:07.676
- in an offshore territory
looking for money.
634
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:10.995
Someone who was trying to enrich himself.
635
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:14.836
It's this dark side of his own story -
636
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:18.039
- that doesn't fit with the rest.
637
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:23.316
It's a contradiction. You see a guy -
638
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.716
- that actually should have some ability.
639
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.276
He did something
that you need to have knowledge to do.
640
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:35.236
Simultaneously, he's probably not
the brightest mind in the world.
641
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:40.075
A guy that takes money from a bank
and sends it to his bank account...
642
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:46.280
It's a little bit, "Come on. At a minimum
at least try to pass it somewhere."
643
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:58.796
We discovered that Doyen Sports
had absolutely no interest -
644
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:02.515
- in the careers of the football players
they invested in.
645
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:05.716
For them, football players
were like objects.
646
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:12.796
For instance, when Brazil qualified
for the World Cup semi-finals in 2014 -
647
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:17.199
- they wrote: "Neymar bitch.
Nigga making us money."
648
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:25.196
Another example is Radamel Falcao.
In 2013, he moved to Monaco.
649
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:30.236
They made a very good profit
with Falcao's sale, but they wanted more.
650
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:35.756
They published WhatsApp texts between
you and Arif. I'll just read them out.
651
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:38.995
They have you saying about Falcao:
652
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.796
"He went to Monaco, that fuck.
His career is finished."
653
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:45.396
This is a message between him and me.
654
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:49.276
If I go to your mobile phone
and start reading messages -
655
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:54.035
- I'm sure I'm going to find something
you don't want exposed.
656
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:59.356
It's like if I see a girl in a restaurant
and say, "Nice boobs. Nice ass."
657
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.920
Then you read that out of context and say,
"What kind of word has he selected?"
658
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:11.396
We can see from the documents that
Doyen has a regular use of prostitutes.
659
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:18.400
Nélio Lucas and Arif Efendi
often discuss prostitutes on WhatsApp.
660
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:24.515
In order to be discreet, Arif Efendi
calls the prostitutes "footballers".
661
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.155
"Organise footballers now.
Don't fucking waste time."
662
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:32.000
"We're gonna end up
like last night with nothing."
663
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:48.115
Definitely, me not involved in this.
For sure not. 100%.
664
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:51.920
Run your biggest, deepest investigation.
665
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:58.280
Got it. Can you tell me about your trip
to Miami in August 2013?
666
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:09.236
In August 2013, there is
a promotional tournament in Miami -
667
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.440
- with some big European teams.
668
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:18.635
It was a trip like any other. I went there
to see the pre-season games.
669
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:24.035
His main goal is not to watch football
but to try to sell one of the players -
670
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:28.796
- in which he has a stake,
a French player, Geoffrey Kondogbia.
671
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:34.515
There is a release clause
of 20 million euros in his contract.
672
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:40.356
So Nélio Lucas is doing everything he can
so that Kondogbia is sold.
673
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:45.159
And we know that because they are
discussing the matter on WhatsApp.
674
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:09.000
At some point Nélio Lucas
writes to Arif Efendi:
675
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:20.995
He says that even Florentino Pérez,
the president of Real Madrid -
676
01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:26.475
- removed his tie and danced,
partied on the dance floor.
677
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.635
We went to a club.
We had nice drinks and a lot of fun.
678
01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:34.079
Something normal between friends.
I'm happy he enjoyed it.
679
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:43.000
The most interesting is
what happens the day after.
680
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:51.115
The Arif family have a huge penthouse
on Fisher Island -
681
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:56.836
- which is basically a billionaire's
island, just off Miami Beach.
682
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:00.000
Nélio Lucas texts Arif Efendi
and tells him:
683
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:13.635
The messages are quite explicit
about the fact that this is a sex party -
684
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:17.355
- and that the girls he wants
to bring are prostitutes -
685
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:20.000
- and they want to invite
Florentino Pérez.
686
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:45.395
Arif Efendi's father, Tevfik Arif...
Arif Efendi calls him Skip.
687
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.315
And Nélio answers, "I will give
Skip's room to Florentino then."
688
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.840
Arif answers:
"For 20 million euros, for Kondogbia."
689
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:02.796
I don't recognise these texts.
It is definitely not from me.
690
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:07.039
If I want to do something like this,
I don't need to ask permission.
691
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:10.676
This is like, "The movie is nice -
692
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:15.195
- but if you add a nude sex scene,
it's much more interesting."
693
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:18.920
At least think and come up
with a better story.
694
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.155
Florentino Pérez strongly denied -
695
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.319
- having taken part in this party.
696
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:34.476
In another text a few days later,
Nélio Lucas says to Arif Efendi -
697
01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:40.235
- that Florentino Pérez was interested
in the player but would pay only 15.
698
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:47.000
So, finally AS Monaco accepted to pay
the 20 million and to buy Kondogbia.
699
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:05.075
September 2020.
It's the first day of Rui Pinto's trial -
700
01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:09.955
- in Lisbon's main court,
and the apparatus is enormous.
701
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:14.636
It was a full house. You had dozens
of reporters from around the world -
702
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:18.275
- waiting outside for the trial to start.
703
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:20.836
There were police all over the place.
704
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:25.955
And there were rubberneckers and the
public trying to understand the circus.
705
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:29.796
When will Rui Pinto make a statement?
706
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:35.000
I don't commit crimes. I'm an honourable
lawyer, and I'm here to clarify.
707
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.596
This was a major event for the country.
708
01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:42.756
Rui Pinto is accused of 90 crimes -
709
01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:46.876
- among them attempted extortion.
710
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.756
He faced years and years of detention.
711
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:55.355
Rui Pinto represents
a world free from corruption -
712
01:10:55.439 --> 01:11:00.995
- and doesn't act out of personal greed
or personal interest.
713
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:03.920
He stands up for a better society.
714
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:12.395
He doesn't enter through the main door,
he goes through the garage.
715
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:16.520
Wears a bulletproof vest in the courtroom.
716
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:25.836
Extreme security measures
never seen before in Portugal.
717
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:30.275
At the same point in time,
there was a trial for terrorism -
718
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:34.436
- in which some people were accused of
being a part of the Islamic State.
719
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:37.596
And security measures weren't that high.
720
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:42.756
People have lost a lot of money. People
have had their reputations shredded.
721
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:47.235
They are furious that their innermost
business secrets were leaked.
722
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:51.395
If you've upset that many people, there is
a chance that one or two of them -
723
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:53.600
- might want to do you harm.
724
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:00.275
Knowledge is power.
725
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:06.836
So people that have power try
to prevent others from having knowledge.
726
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:13.720
I think Rui opens a window in society
that was not supposed to be open.
727
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:18.436
He's been accused of 90 crimes
of improper access -
728
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:22.836
- correspondence violation,
illegitimate access.
729
01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:28.115
The hacker guaranteed before the court
that he didn't consider himself a hacker -
730
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:32.395
- but a whistleblower who revealed
a lot of information -
731
01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:36.195
- that made it possible
to open several inquiries -
732
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:41.395
- not only in Portugal
but also in other European countries.
733
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:45.195
Thank you for hearing me today.
My name is Edward Joseph Snowden.
734
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:49.275
The final accounting
of any act of whistleblowing -
735
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:52.079
- is found in its consequences.
736
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:57.995
Rui Pinto is the Edward Snowden
of the fight against corruption.
737
01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:01.436
In the case of Rui Pinto,
there is no question -
738
01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:04.275
- that the stories uncovered -
739
01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:08.436
- have advanced the public interest.
And I hope you will agree.
740
01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:13.275
Such an exceptional whistleblower
as Pinto has to be protected.
741
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:17.075
Has to be recognised
by the judge as someone -
742
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:21.836
- who sacrificed himself
for public interest.
743
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:26.035
I think it's offensive to Edward Snowden
when you compare Rui Pinto to him.
744
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:29.676
You can't compare them. You just can't.
745
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.995
The whistleblower defence,
for me, is slightly worrying.
746
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:36.716
The idea that someone
can essentially walk into your house -
747
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.756
- see if you're not a good person
and then leave.
748
01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:45.000
It doesn't work that way.
The ends don't justify the means.
749
01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:01.596
Did you ever ask him where he got his
information from or did you not care?
750
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:03.955
I did ask him.
751
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:08.916
He was never clear to me, so I thought
that I should not insist too much.
752
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:12.355
Can you explain how Rui Pinto
got hold of the material?
753
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:16.355
I don't worry about it.
As a lawyer I don't need to know that.
754
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:22.596
The details of his adventure
are not a matter of interest for me.
755
01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:25.399
I don't give a damn.
756
01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:27.720
What does it change?
757
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:34.636
The first day he spoke in court, Rui Pinto
assured that he was a whistleblower -
758
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:39.395
- and that he had never asked for money
in exchange for not revealing information.
759
01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:43.275
In the background,
Doyen is the main complainant -
760
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:46.995
- that takes the pirate to court.
761
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:51.476
The important thing that's on trial
is the extortion attempt.
762
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:55.955
It doesn't fit with the story
Rui Pinto is telling about himself.
763
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:59.516
They tried to portray it
like David against Goliath.
764
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.636
These guys from Doyen are banditos,
full of cash -
765
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:08.800
- and this guy is in the middle of nowhere
trying to expose them.
766
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.960
You can't not talk about
the extortion case.
767
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:19.315
He has spoken about wanting to rid
football of all the murkiness.
768
01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:23.075
If this guy appeared at a point
to try and profit -
769
01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:27.275
- from his ability to access files
he shouldn't -
770
01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:30.476
- this is a little stain
across all of that.
771
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:35.239
It will be an original sin
for the Football Leaks project.
772
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:41.955
He never the intention
to receive any money.
773
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:45.239
It was just a game. It was just a game.
774
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:50.920
I decided to play with them.
I contacted Nélio Lucas.
775
01:15:55.279 --> 01:16:01.516
I basically said, "Yeah,
I have some documents about Doyen."
776
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:05.796
I wanted to see their reaction.
I wanted to know -
777
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:11.355
- how valuable
these documents were for them.
778
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:15.239
I wanted to know
how far they were ready to go.
779
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:30.319
He feigned to have the willingness
to receive money -
780
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:36.676
- to demonstrate their fear.
781
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:40.315
Because if you accept to pay some money -
782
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:45.800
- it's because you're obsessed to maintain
a law of silence.
783
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:52.159
If there is something that does not
interest Pinto it's money.
784
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:56.800
He doesn't give a damn.
785
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:05.636
It doesn't make any sense
that they're just trying to see -
786
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:09.880
- how much money
Doyen was available to pay.
787
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:16.920
There are some e-mails in which
Rui Pinto talks with Aníbal Pinto...
788
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:28.239
...about setting up
an account in Malta...
789
01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:34.960
...because he would have fiscal benefits.
790
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:50.840
It's highly ironic he's fighting fiscal
evasion and people paying less taxes...
791
01:17:54.239 --> 01:18:00.960
...but he himself saw that he would
pay less tax in Malta than in Hungary.
792
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:26.955
I think Rui Pinto did an excellent job.
793
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.476
He helped the Portuguese and the world -
794
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.439
- to understand everything
that is happening in football.
795
01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:39.476
He achieved all of that.
796
01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:44.399
The whole machine that was assembled
was dismantled.
797
01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:52.195
I will invite him to come
and see a game -
798
01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:58.079
- so that everyone can applaud him
and thank him for everything he has done.
799
01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:09.916
You may say that thanks to Rui Pinto
some illegal behaviour -
800
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:14.520
- of some actors in the football industry
is no longer possible.
801
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:22.676
I recall everything
that was written about me.
802
01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:25.476
These guys are calling you a criminal -
803
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:29.876
- like you're acting for these
bad organisations in the world.
804
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:34.035
You don't sleep. You get nervous.
805
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:37.359
You lose business opportunities.
806
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:42.955
The guy who ran Doyen...
I don't wanna mention the name, but...
807
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:49.720
What he was doing and how he lived his
life in the football world was terrible.
808
01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:55.476
There has been criminal investigations
opened in several countries.
809
01:19:55.560 --> 01:20:00.319
A real awareness of the dirty tricks
of the football world.
810
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:05.239
How are those stories received?
811
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.676
You want an honest answer?
People don't care.
812
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.796
That's on the news cycle
for a couple of days -
813
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:19.399
- but the next weekend, Cristiano scores
two goals and everything goes away.
814
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.676
The absolute paradox of this story is -
815
01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:40.195
- that when the trial started, on one hand
he appeared as a protected witness.
816
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:43.716
Simultaneously he's criminalised.
817
01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:48.395
He did a lot of harm to me,
to my company, to my family, a lot.
818
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:50.476
I hope he pays for what he did -
819
01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:55.395
- and I'm sure
that justice will make him pay.
820
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:59.876
In the beginning, there probably
was a financial motivation -
821
01:20:59.960 --> 01:21:02.916
- but I think that eventually he changed.
822
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:09.680
And I think his goal was really to try
to reveal stuff he thought was wrong.
823
01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:15.039
Those are two versions of him.
A hero and a villain.
824
01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:21.115
It puts your mind in a real dilemma.
825
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:24.676
It tells you
the world really functions in a grey area.
826
01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:28.195
There is nothing
that is completely pure -
827
01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:31.955
- and not this other end
which is pure evil.
828
01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:37.319
There is this kind of mess in the middle
that we all are operating in.
829
01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:57.359
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