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[bleating]

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[children shouting]

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[whistle blows]

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[man] Football is the most popular
cultural phenomena in the world.

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Nothing comes close.

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Nothing attracts audiences on the scale,

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nothing ignites the emotions
that football does.

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[cheering]

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[dramatic organ music]

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No country owns football.

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This is a common, collective,
human piece of cultural capital.

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This is the place that we celebrate
our collective humanity

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more intensely
and on a larger scale than anything.

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The World Cup is simply the most unifying
universal thing that humanity does.

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And it really matters
that the people who run it

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actually represent a collective humanity.

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And if it is full of self-serving
and corrupt individuals,

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and self-serving and malign states,
there is a problem.

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2018 FIFA World Cup
will be organised in Russia.

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[cheering]

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[groaning]

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The winner to organise
the 2022 FIFA World Cup

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is Qatar.

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FIFA has been rocked by more allegations
of corruption and fraud.

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The organisation that oversees
professional soccer around the world

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may be facing
the biggest scandal in its history.

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[newsreader] Nine top officials
accused of taking $150 million

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in bribes and kickbacks.

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Several top officials of soccer's
world governing body were arrested.

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They corrupted the business
of worldwide soccer

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to serve their interests
and to enrich themselves.

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[newsreader] Five of FIFA's
seven vice presidents

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have asked Blatter to step down,
but he has refused to do so.

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For what? Next question.

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[man] Sports have always been a way

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in which the dominant ideologies
of the day did battle with each other.

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Right now, the dominant ideologies
are democracy and autocracy.

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And somewhere in that giant divide
between the grassroots of something

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and how it is packaged
and sold around the world

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lies all the answers we're looking for.

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Does this work? It works.
We haven't sound-tested. Good morning.

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Well, how do you get inside
monolithic organisations

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that don't want you to know
what they're doing,

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are frightened what you would find out,

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how do you get in?

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Well, here's how I acquired
a huge collection

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of FIFA's most carefully guarded
confidential documents.

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[clears throat]
Let's find the microphones. Yeah? OK?

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It's taken 15 years to get
from my first cautious investigation

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through to where we are now, with
prison doors slamming all over the world.

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In 2002, I went to one of President
Blatter's press conferences in Zurich.

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I thought,
"It's time to stir things up a bit."

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I grabbed the roving hand mic and said,

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"Herr Blatter,
have you ever taken a bribe?"

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Oh! Absolute pandemonium.
Nobody ever asked that question.

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[in German] No. Not like that.
Not me. Certainly not me.

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[Jennings]
Next day in the London newspapers

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was the headline,
"Blatter Denies Taking Bribes".

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I'd got bribes onto the media agenda.

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I'm coming for you, Herr Blatter.
I know you're a crook.

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Because his reputation is appalling.

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But he has not to validate me.

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He has not to validate me.

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[man]
Andrew had established quite a reputation

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as a passionate, obsessed

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and relentless hard-hitting
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[Jennings] The robbers on that team
aren't nice people.

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They're people who are quite prepared to
put both barrels of a sawn-off through you

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if you stand between them and the prize.

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He started investigating organised crime,
which is where he'd sort of made his name.

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On its way to Britain was then the biggest
ever load of cocaine, 400 kilos,

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a fantastic amount of cocaine.

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And it was only later
that he got interested

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and moved his attention
to the world of international sport.

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Are you the right person
to lead the Olympic movement?

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[Oliver] And then he had moved on to FIFA.

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He was constantly telling stories,
constantly talking about FIFA.

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If you didn't want to know about FIFA,

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you shouldn't be sitting
anywhere near Andrew Jennings.

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I then started looking
at the definitions of organised crime

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as written by police officers,
by criminologists,

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and I realised that…

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Sepp Blatter's tight ruling group
tick all the boxes.

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The loyalty comes up
from the 209 national associations,

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and the rewards come down
in millions and millions of dollars.

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And then I thought, "Yeah, but where
did it start? Where does it come from?"

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Let's wind back.
It's 1974. The gangsters arrive.

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When you hear about
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it's actually the Havelange family.

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João Havelange, for all his faults,
was an extraordinary innovator,

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a man who saw the future.

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He enters the world of football
in the mid-1950s

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when he becomes president
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and it is under Havelange that Brazil
wins its first World Cup in 1958.

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At some point in the early 1970s,

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João Havelange decides to run
to be the president of FIFA.

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[announcer] The new president of FIFA
is Mr de Havelange.

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[applause]

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And this happens just at the moment
when television broadcasting rights

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start to bring vast fortunes
into FIFA's coffer.

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[in French] You can't ignore what
television represents in the modern world

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in the world of communications.

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Before it was only seen
by those who were in the stadium

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or those who had a small radio,
but now everything has changed.

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[man] TV sets came to every little village
in the Colombian mountains,

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the desert of Sahara.

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The big consumer good industry realised
there was a big potential

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in reaching audiences globally
through their banners around the stadium,

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through their logos
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FIFA was in a very favourable position
because they had monopoly rights

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over their very attractive
live TV product.

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[Jennings] You may have heard of FIFA,

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but you probably
haven't heard of the company

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whose activities threaten to bring down

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some of the most powerful men
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It's called
International Sports and Leisure, or ISL.

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[Szymanski] FIFA made the decision

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to manage the marketing
of the rights in-house.

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They decided to create their own
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[Goldblatt]
ISL, International Sport and Leisure,

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was a creation of João Havelange
and his ally Horst Dassler.

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Horst Dassler made Adidas
the most successful sportswear company

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because he understood the power
of advertising and marketing.

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And he also pioneered the micropolitics
of sport and sponsorship.

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He created, in effect,
a sports intelligence unit inside Adidas,

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masses of information
on every important figure

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in the world of global and national
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And that, of course, became the instrument

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for cutting the kind of deals
that you needed to do

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to get the Adidas stripes
on the team's boots.

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[Havelange, in French] When I took over,
I went to see Mr Horst Dassler.

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We concluded
a very important contract for FIFA

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which was the basic element

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for the development of soccer
in the world.

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When you go
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it's really the house that Adidas built,

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and the linking between FIFA and Adidas
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The model that they chose
was that ISL buys the media rights

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for the World Cup from FIFA for a set fee,

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FIFA's backed that guarantee,

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and then ISL goes off and sells the rights
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and they can make a profit.

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[Oliver] Now, in order to ensure
that ISL stayed the intermediary,

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secret payments, kickbacks,
were given to senior officials at FIFA.

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[interviewer] Was it Horst Dassler's
ambition to control the president of FIFA?

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Whether it's his ambition,
I think it is certainly his desire,

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and has always been his desire
since I've known him,

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to have a very strong influence

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on the president
and all the senior people of FIFA.

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[interviewer] A desire to influence, isn't
that diplomatic language in your world

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for control and manipulate?

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Probably.

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[African music and singing]

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[player shouts]

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[man, in German]
Arrival of FIFA instructors

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at the municipal youth centre,

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including the Swiss Werner Hersi,
Anton Bucheli and Sepp Blatter.

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[in Walser German] The development
of the foot must have a repetitive,

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even a permanent character,
to achieve efficient results.

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[Goldblatt] Sepp Blatter is brought
into FIFA first as a technical advisor.

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Havelange recognises something in Blatter.

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And Havelange sends him out to Adidas
to work with Horst Dassler for a few years

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and to learn the dark arts of politics
in the world of international sport.

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And then he's ready, in the early 1980s,
to take over as general secretary.

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And at that point, Blatter is both
trusty, unquestioning servant

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and also the magician's apprentice.

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Sepp Blatter
is an extraordinary character.

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On the one hand, you know,
he's the hard-bitten, no-nonsense,

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realpolitik of FIFA,

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who knows where all the bodies are buried
and knows how power works.

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But there's another side to Blatter.

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In his youth, he was the wedding singer.
He liked to croon.

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Now, he earned,
paid his way through university

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with a mixture of singing
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And he modelled himself, by his own
admission, on Eddie Constantine…

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♪ I used to be like
all those other guys… ♪

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[Goldblatt] …who was
an American B-movie actor

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playing a kind of 99-cent-shop James Bond.

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- Everyone has his own gimmick, you know?
- I understand.

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- Whisky?
- Yeah, but make it a big one.

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[Goldblatt]
That's kind of Blatter's model.

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♪ Someday you'll feel like
you're the king of the hill ♪

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Mr Blatter, so nice to meet you
after feeling you for so many years.

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- Nice to have you here.
- Thank you very much.

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Funny, I met you just in the men's room
a minute ago.

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- [laughter]
- You're full, I guess. Good.

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Blatter loved the stage
more than everything else.

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It was for him very important.

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The worst for him
is if they don't speak about him.

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He had two visions:
to strengthen his personal power in FIFA

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and to develop the game.

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[applause]

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[Goldblatt] Always the way with autocrats
is when you leave,

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how do you secure your legacy?

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How do you make sure the next folks in

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don't go looking too deeply
into what's been happening in the past?

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[in French] For the presidency of FIFA,

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I am going to recommend
Mr Joseph Sepp Blatter,

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to whom I give the floor.

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FIFA has a very pyramid-like structure.
At the top of it is the president.

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There is six regional vice presidents

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from the six regions around the world.

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Beyond that, there is what was called
an executive committee

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who were drawn from each of those regions.

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But when it came to the election
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it was all of the member associations
who got a vote.

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Like in the United Nations,
it's one country, one vote.

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[Goldblatt] This is very useful to know
if you're in the business of buying votes.

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It's very difficult to buy votes from
people who are already really wealthy.

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But many of those countries are extremely
small and poor and easily influenced,

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and that's where you start.

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[Togoni] Blatter, he had not
the personal power as much as Havelange,

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and he didn't have the respect of all.

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All of us, not one or two,
all of us must try very hard

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to restore the respect for football
and for the FIFA family.

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[Togoni] Blatter hated to have
a counter-candidate.

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[in Swedish] What is the difference
between you and Blatter?

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[in Swedish] He stands for continuity,

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which means dictatorial behaviour

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and disregard for democratic rules.

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[Goldblatt]
If you've already been doing well

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out of the system
of patronage and clientelism

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that has been established under Havelange

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and you want that to carry on,
stick with the devil you know.

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Blatter's your man.

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And that's basically, the same coalition
that voted Havelange into power

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is held together,

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It is Africa, it's Latin America,
and the new kids on the block, Concacaf.

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[Togoni]
Chuck was probably the smartest guy

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who was sitting
in the executive committee.

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[Oliver] Chuck Blazer was the man
running football in North America,

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together with his friend, Jack Warner,

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the man running football
in Trinidad and Tobago.

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[Togoni]
They played a very perfect paso doble.

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Jack Warner was the front man,

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and Chuck Blazer was the man
who introduced the deals.

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[man] Blazer, of course, would ensure,
whatever he was involved in,

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there was a commission for himself.

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He earned himself the nickname
within Concacaf as Mr 10%.

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[Goldblatt]
Blazer and Jack Warner, they're shameless.

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They are taking money on the side
on every single media deal.

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Chuck Blazer has got a duplex
in Trump Tower.

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But wait. He's not just got one duplex.

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He's got two cats. The cats
can't live with them. They need a duplex.

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[cat meows]

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He also has a phenomenal taste
for all the very finest restaurants

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that New York City can supply.

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Both of them have got
a Concacaf credit card

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and they are spending it
on whatever they damn well want.

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[Togoni] And then Bin Hammam
is an entrepreneur in Qatar.

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He came to FIFA via Asia.
He was president of Asia.

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[Goldblatt] Bin Hammam's a billionaire.

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He's interested in power.
He's not interested in money.

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[Togoni] Bin Hammam supported Blatter
for his election in 1998.

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Blatter promised Bin Hammam
probably to become his successor.

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He promised this to many people.

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[man] It was crucial to get 20 votes
to move from Johansson to Blatter.

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Would Hammam procure votes for Blatter?

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Part of the procurement
was $50,000 per vote.

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[interviewer, in German] What was in
the envelopes which the lady handed out?

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[in German] That's rubbish.
It's all a load of nonsense.

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If it's all nonsense,
then why do you react so strongly to it?

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We see a change in FIFA during the '90s.

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Really, I think,
that's a function of two things:

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the growing sums of money
that are coming into the game,

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and, two, the growing realisation
that something's not quite right here.

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And it's only then
that people start to say,

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"Well, where is all this money going?"

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[interviewer]
You absolutely reject allegations,

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whether they are connected
to the Blatter campaign arranging bribes,

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you absolutely reject?

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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Mr Blatter is not… "competable".

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I mean, nobody can compete with him.

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[announcer, in French]
Mr Joseph Blatter: 111.

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- [applause]
- Mr Lennart Johansson: 80.

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[Blatter, in French] Thank you for having
elected me as the president of FIFA.

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[Jennings]
That, my friends, is soccer democracy.

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Voters from 18 African nations
had been bribed to support Blatter.

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Those votes were enough
to defeat Lennart Johansson from Sweden.

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The election of Sepp Blatter
as president of FIFA was fraudulent.

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He is not the legitimate president
of world soccer.

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[Yallop] I don't know what deal was done,
but I would say to you

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just watch for the next couple of years

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for a meaningless FIFA tournament
to be staged in Qatar.

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[Blatter] They would have you believe that
I sit in my office with a sinister grin,

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gently stroking the chin
of an expensive white Persian cat

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as my terrible sidekick.

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But that is not what we are.
That's not FIFA. That's not me.

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I have dedicated my life
for the good of football around the world

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in the belief that football
has the power to build a better future.

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One is very near vomit sometimes
when Blatter starts talking about,

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"My mission to the world is…"

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His mission to the world is one thing:
stay in power.

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He resembles
the lowest lowlife, pond life,

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of particularly American politics
as we get to see more of it,

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that you get elected today,

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and tomorrow you start raising money
for the next election.

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You're out there
doing whatever has to be done

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because you don't care about ideology.

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Democrat, socialist, trade union, Nazi,
they just wanna stay in power.

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Blatter does not like being investigated.

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What are your expenses?
What are your bonuses?

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How much do you earn?

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[interviewer]
Why don't we know your salary?

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But why you should…
I don't know your salary.

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But you're an elected official.
I'm an employee. You're elected.

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[Jennings] And it's a reporter's job
to say, "I'm asking you again:

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how much does FIFA pay you?"

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Andrew Jennings would stand up and say,
"Have you taken a bribe?

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Where is this money?
Where are these documents?"

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That was absolutely his genius,

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because he knows that corrupt men of power
always have people in their organisations

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who they have annoyed, upset, humiliated,

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and it is those people
to whom he was speaking.

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It's like putting up a great big sign,
"You wanna get back at the boss?

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You wanna clear out the stables?

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I'm the man to send the documents to."

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[Jennings]
You remember your mother told you,

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"If you do bad things,
you will get caught one day."

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In the spring of last year,
ISL declared bankruptcy

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solely through mismanagement
of other contracts.

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[Blatter]
So I would like to give you an update

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of the collapse
of our marketing partner, ISL.

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[Oliver] It went bankrupt
because Horst Dassler died.

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And under Horst Dassler,
it was a very well-managed operation,

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whether it was corrupt or not.

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Under the subsequent management,
they basically ran it into the ground,

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paying too much for rights
they shouldn't have been buying

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rather than concentrating on
the really good things they already had.

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This situation is certainly
one of the biggest challenges

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in the history of the 97 years of FIFA.

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[Goldblatt] So when ISL goes bankrupt,
an awful lot of documentation

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falls into the possession
of the Swiss court and judicial system.

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The most important document
that the Swiss authorities get hold of,

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it's just the list of names and numbers,

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the names of people
who were getting a kickback,

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the amount of money that they're getting.

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[Jennings] Folks have been named.

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Don't get excited.
This is transparency Swiss and FIFA style.

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After secret negotiations,

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the Swiss federal court has agreed
that the names can be kept secret.

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So it was clear by then
that there had been bribes paid.

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That was a starting point.

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The second question became:
who had been bribed?

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The television Andrew worked in,

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there was a strong tradition
of what we call the doorstep,

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which is, effectively, if they won't
speak, if they won't answer questions,

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you go and knock on their door

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or find them in the street
and ask them a question.

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What we came up with was,
well, OK, let's make the film

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about Andrew trying to find out
who got the bribes.

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Andrew had a reputation for being somewhat
aggressive in his approach to people.

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So the first Panorama we made,

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what our editor wanted
was a slightly more questioning approach.

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And he said, "Have you ever seen
that TV detective in America, Columbo?"

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Oh, Mr Devlin, just one more thing, sir.

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- Yes, Lieutenant.
- I hate to bother you.

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[Oliver] You know, just one more question.

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"President Blatter,
can I just ask you one more question?"

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00:24:33,055 --> 00:24:36,184
And Andrew really liked this idea.
"Oh, yeah. I can do that."

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00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:38,227
And as it turned out, I had a mackintosh

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which was very like the one
worn by Columbo,

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so I took that along, gave it to Andrew,

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and that's how he sort of adopted the
Columbo image that he had in the films.

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Please, can I come
into your press conference?

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I said, please,
may I come into your press conference?

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When? Now?

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00:24:58,039 --> 00:24:59,040
- Yeah, now.
- OK.

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- May I come in?
- Yes, OK.

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00:25:00,458 --> 00:25:02,335
Some of your press people
won't always let me in.

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But I will take care of it, OK?

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00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:05,796
Let me just ask you.

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Do you know which football officials took
bribes from the ISL marketing company?

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I'm sorry. I don't speak about that.

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00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:16,682
[Oliver] Once he worked out
who he should be targeting,

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he would relentlessly pursue whatever
the subject was to the ends of the earth.

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00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:24,148
Can you explain why they paid you in cash?

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00:25:24,232 --> 00:25:25,983
Did you never take bribes from ISL?

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00:25:26,067 --> 00:25:30,613
Mr Teixeira! Did you take your bribes
through the Sanud company?

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00:25:30,696 --> 00:25:31,822
Mr Bedoya!

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[Spanish accent]

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[Jennings] You speak English. That's good
English. It's good English. OK, right.

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00:25:38,371 --> 00:25:40,164
Geoff, can we talk to you?

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00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:42,792
[whispers] You were saying
on the BBC interview this morning

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there's no corruption problem at FIFA,
and I was a bit puzzled.

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[Oliver]
And we started driving around Switzerland,

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knocking on various doors
to see if anyone would talk to us.

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Usually met with a polite,
"No, thank you."

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And then it was on to the next door.

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00:26:01,269 --> 00:26:05,982
Occasionally you might go for a coffee
and they'd say politely,

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"Well, yes,
but we're not gonna tell you anything,

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and even if we did,
we're not going on the record."

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00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:14,949
You've gotta remember
that when I started working with Andrew,

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he's already been banned by FIFA.

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00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:19,328
Why am I banned from FIFA House?

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- What have I done?
- No comment.

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[Oliver] So he's persona non grata.

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[Jennings] I was banished, but I kept on
publishing embarrassing stories.

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I disclosed this
in the London "Daily Mail".

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00:26:30,464 --> 00:26:33,134
Within hours, FIFA's website announced,

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00:26:33,217 --> 00:26:36,846
"President Blatter has instructed
their lawyers to file lawsuits

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00:26:36,929 --> 00:26:39,348
against Andrew Jennings
and the "Daily Mail"."

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00:26:39,432 --> 00:26:45,104
There are legal actions running against
this newspaper, against a journalist,

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00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:48,607
which have put the game in disrepute.

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00:26:48,691 --> 00:26:51,569
[Jennings] The number of legal threats
I've had from that lot,

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a few days to retract
or there's gonna be massive penalties,

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00:26:55,323 --> 00:26:57,700
you know,
and you wallpaper the walls with them.

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What they don't do
is they don't use violence,

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because they're just
white-collar criminals… I hope.

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00:27:09,337 --> 00:27:13,007
FIFA sent people without FIFA name tags,

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spies like Peter Hargitay,

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00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:18,846
to observe what Andrew said in the bar.

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Then people around him
that were not his friends.

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[Goldblatt]
You could see it got under their skins.

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Most sports journalists are dependent
on the people in power.

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00:27:40,910 --> 00:27:42,244
…like this in my whole life,

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00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:45,790
covering matches
in the World Cup, Champions League…

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00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:50,211
[Goldblatt] Is there any industry in which
so many people spend so much time

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00:27:50,294 --> 00:27:52,171
saying absolutely nothing?

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00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:55,508
An easy enough question for George Karl
is look where we are…

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[Goldblatt]
I mean, it makes mainstream politics

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00:27:57,635 --> 00:28:00,805
look lucid and transparent by comparison.

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…a blanket on top of him.

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00:28:03,349 --> 00:28:06,644
[Goldblatt]
Andrew was so bold in that way,

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00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:11,065
And he wasn't just gonna rock the boat.
He was gonna blow it up and sink it.

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00:28:12,066 --> 00:28:17,738
In the beginning, it was only two,
three critical journalists, maybe five.

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00:28:17,822 --> 00:28:19,907
Nobody was interested in this.

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00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:24,120
You would be crazy
to send me to report the game.

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00:28:24,203 --> 00:28:25,830
- I might get the score wrong.
- [laughter]

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00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:28,791
[man] At the time he was seen
as the eccentric guy, you know,

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00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:33,879
bit of an oddball in some ways,
but a prolific journalist,

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00:28:33,963 --> 00:28:37,925
someone who had a story,
would go after it.

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00:28:38,008 --> 00:28:40,845
In those days,
you'd get interviewed every week or so,

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00:28:40,928 --> 00:28:44,056
but it was always about football,
always about the game,

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not about the politics around football.

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00:28:46,809 --> 00:28:48,769
[applause]

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[Jennings] Thank you very much.
Do we have sound?

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00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,946
In the 1990s,
they started the Play the Game conference.

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00:28:59,029 --> 00:29:01,073
…systematic use of drugs
in Italian track…

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00:29:01,157 --> 00:29:04,910
[Andersen] I wanted to improve
sports journalism through this conference.

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00:29:04,994 --> 00:29:09,999
And what triggered me was Andrew,
because he was a pioneer.

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00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:14,420
As Dick Pound said the other night,
doping and corruption is so intertwined.

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00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,423
[Liburd]
I attended Play the Game conference.

447
00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:19,842
When I look at the schedule,
it's just amazing.

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00:29:19,925 --> 00:29:24,013
Everything, doping in cycling
to match fixing.

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00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,849
The people who are there presenting

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00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:29,685
are all at the top of their field,
the top of their game.

451
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:32,813
Andrew had created a network.

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00:29:32,897 --> 00:29:35,399
Major League Baseball
is back in the news tonight.

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00:29:35,483 --> 00:29:38,319
[newsreader] The allegation from
the Association of Tennis Professionals…

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00:29:38,402 --> 00:29:41,280
[newsreader 2] …wants authorities
to look into how he was not suspended.

455
00:29:41,363 --> 00:29:44,825
The immediate future of sumo wrestling
hangs in the balance tonight.

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00:29:45,743 --> 00:29:49,288
I would say
that eight out of ten of the stories

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00:29:49,371 --> 00:29:51,874
that have marked
the international sports agenda,

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00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:54,919
those journalists have been around
Play the Game.

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00:29:55,002 --> 00:29:57,213
There's a kind of nervousness
I see in Blatter these days.

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00:29:57,296 --> 00:29:59,798
Is he there? Is he there?
Is he under there?

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00:29:59,882 --> 00:30:02,468
Again, it was that excellent reporter,
Jean-François Tanda,

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who got hold of crucial evidence.

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00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:07,681
[Andersen]
And Andrew used all the days to chat

464
00:30:07,765 --> 00:30:11,185
and showed the way
to many of the younger journalists.

465
00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:13,187
He gave them the recipe.

466
00:30:13,270 --> 00:30:15,397
He said,
"Don't build on anonymous sources.

467
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:19,109
Don't build on slandering.
Don't build on gossip.

468
00:30:19,193 --> 00:30:20,361
Get the documents."

469
00:30:21,111 --> 00:30:25,366
You've got to get your brilliant stories
out to the wider world,

470
00:30:25,449 --> 00:30:28,244
because that way
the pressure will come back,

471
00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:30,496
so that something has to be done.

472
00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:34,458
[Goldblatt] It was so fantastic

473
00:30:34,542 --> 00:30:40,548
to see the very small number of
sports journalists begin to probe around.

474
00:30:40,631 --> 00:30:43,509
Lasana Liburd, probably
the most experienced football reporter

475
00:30:43,592 --> 00:30:46,011
we have in Trinidad and Tobago.

476
00:30:46,095 --> 00:30:48,681
[Goldblatt] So this journalist
from Trinidad and Tobago

477
00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,766
did a bit of investigation.

478
00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:55,312
And he discovered that 5,000 tickets
for the game against England

479
00:30:55,396 --> 00:30:58,190
suddenly are being sold online

480
00:30:58,274 --> 00:31:02,278
as part of a package with a travel agency.

481
00:31:02,361 --> 00:31:05,489
Straightaway, you know,
something kind of flashes in my head.

482
00:31:05,573 --> 00:31:07,533
Maybe I should check this out.

483
00:31:07,616 --> 00:31:13,872
So I do some research and found out that
Simpaul, it's really run by Jack Warner.

484
00:31:14,582 --> 00:31:17,376
And there was this company, Renraw,

485
00:31:17,459 --> 00:31:19,378
which is actually Warner
spelled backwards.

486
00:31:19,461 --> 00:31:23,173
His wife, Maureen,
and his sons, Daryan and Daryll,

487
00:31:23,257 --> 00:31:25,676
were all part of the company as well.

488
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,137
[Goldblatt]
He then gets delusions of grandeur.

489
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:31,849
He runs for parliament,
he becomes an MP in Trinidad,

490
00:31:31,932 --> 00:31:35,102
and he actually, for a short time,
becomes a cabinet minister,

491
00:31:35,185 --> 00:31:39,273
while still doing
all of his FIFA and Concacaf jobs.

492
00:31:39,356 --> 00:31:44,278
He's taking money from FIFA that should be
going into building training facilities.

493
00:31:44,361 --> 00:31:48,782
When it comes to finding ways
of making a buck, he's impressive.

494
00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:51,660
[reporter] It was an earthquake
that devastated Haiti,

495
00:31:51,744 --> 00:31:53,996
killing thousands of people,

496
00:31:54,079 --> 00:32:00,502
and Jack Warner, one of football's most
powerful men, promised help, FIFA money.

497
00:32:00,586 --> 00:32:03,380
But investigators have claimed
it was transferred to accounts

498
00:32:03,464 --> 00:32:07,134
controlled by Warner for his personal use.

499
00:32:07,217 --> 00:32:11,805
Warner has been accused
of embezzling $750,000 of aid funds.

500
00:32:11,889 --> 00:32:14,266
[Jennings]
How does Warner get away with this?

501
00:32:14,350 --> 00:32:16,018
Blatter may be the president,

502
00:32:16,101 --> 00:32:20,648
but Warner is at present
the most powerful man in world soccer.

503
00:32:20,731 --> 00:32:23,192
All right, no problem.
We talk again later. All right.

504
00:32:24,485 --> 00:32:26,862
[Oliver]
We wanted to interview Jack Warner.

505
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:29,657
Obviously he didn't want
to be interviewed.

506
00:32:30,574 --> 00:32:33,911
[Jennings] One of his lawyers in Trinidad
emailed me and said if I asked questions,

507
00:32:33,994 --> 00:32:36,038
appropriate action would be taken,

508
00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:38,499
and I can't imagine
what they were talking about.

509
00:32:38,582 --> 00:32:39,958
I'm a journalist, like you.

510
00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:44,171
I ask questions politely, fairly,
firmly if necessary.

511
00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:50,094
[Oliver] And then we got tipped that
he was going to be landing with the team.

512
00:32:50,177 --> 00:32:55,224
So we thought, brilliant, we know where
he's gonna be, and we waited for him.

513
00:32:57,726 --> 00:33:01,939
And I remember Andrew
kind of leaning forward,

514
00:33:02,022 --> 00:33:04,692
and everybody leaning in
to hear what he had to say.

515
00:33:07,528 --> 00:33:12,574
And Andrew said, um,
"Let's get these corrupt fuckers."

516
00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:15,786
- Mr Warner, hello again.
- Leave me alone.

517
00:33:15,869 --> 00:33:17,871
- Can I ask you how much…
- Leave me alone.

518
00:33:17,955 --> 00:33:21,208
Please don't do that. Can I ask you
how much money you're making?

519
00:33:21,291 --> 00:33:23,460
- Leave me alone.
- [man] Please do something for us now.

520
00:33:23,544 --> 00:33:24,837
[Jennings] Please don't do that.

521
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,880
I'm trying to ask you
how much profit you're making

522
00:33:26,964 --> 00:33:28,549
from World Cup tickets this year.

523
00:33:28,632 --> 00:33:32,553
Why is it your family always gets
the juiciest fee for contracts?

524
00:33:32,636 --> 00:33:35,806
Mister, leave me alone, please.
Leave me alone, please. Leave me alone.

525
00:33:35,889 --> 00:33:37,725
- Leave me alone.
- [Jennings] …this year.

526
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,020
Hello? Mr Warner? I know… Please.

527
00:33:42,104 --> 00:33:45,190
Why won't you talk about
these football issues?

528
00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:49,903
Good evening, Mr Warner.
Andrew Jennings, BBC Panorama programme.

529
00:33:49,987 --> 00:33:52,948
- Would you give me an interview?
- Excuse, excuse.

530
00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:54,867
- Would you…?
- Excuse us, please.

531
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:57,453
We're on the public highway.
Please don't interrupt.

532
00:34:04,334 --> 00:34:08,088
"Mr Jennings went as far as attempting
to physically obstruct me

533
00:34:08,172 --> 00:34:09,840
from taking the podium."

534
00:34:09,923 --> 00:34:13,469
[Oliver] We found out afterwards,
Jack Warner issued a press release,

535
00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:17,181
which was hilariously headlined
"Operation Get Jack Warner".

536
00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:19,725
[Jennings]
"His actions provoked a crowd of onlookers

537
00:34:19,808 --> 00:34:23,228
who sought to keep Mr Jennings
from my path.

538
00:34:23,312 --> 00:34:27,941
I caution him
to be less irresponsible in the future."

539
00:34:28,025 --> 00:34:32,237
[Oliver] I think he found being questioned
by Andrew deeply offensive.

540
00:34:32,321 --> 00:34:37,659
How dare this scruffy journalist ask me
questions about my business affairs?

541
00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:42,164
Here I am arriving with the Soca Warriors.
Andrew Jennings is there.

542
00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:44,541
Here I am going to speak to my people.

543
00:34:44,625 --> 00:34:47,169
Andrew Jennings there
asking me annoying questions.

544
00:34:47,252 --> 00:34:49,713
Here I am arriving in Zurich.

545
00:34:49,797 --> 00:34:52,925
It's Andrew Jennings
asking annoying questions.

546
00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:55,219
Mr Warner, good morning.
Welcome to Zurich.

547
00:34:55,302 --> 00:34:58,514
How much profit did you make
selling World Cup tickets this year?

548
00:34:58,597 --> 00:35:01,058
It's only a very polite inquiry,
Mr Warner.

549
00:35:03,685 --> 00:35:05,521
If you could spit on me,
you would spit on me?

550
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,566
Why would you spit on me?

551
00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:14,363
[Oliver] It was surprising.
I think Andrew was actually delighted.

552
00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:17,282
For us, it is really good television,
because it demonstrates

553
00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:20,953
here's a guy not willing to respond
to even reasonable questions,

554
00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:22,162
and that says something.

555
00:35:22,246 --> 00:35:25,332
How much money did you make
selling World Cup tickets this year?

556
00:35:25,415 --> 00:35:26,625
Ask your mother.

557
00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:27,709
- Ask…?
- Your mother.

558
00:35:27,793 --> 00:35:29,461
Ask my mother?
My mother's dead, actually.

559
00:35:29,545 --> 00:35:32,923
- But nice of you to remind me of that.
- Go to find her. Find her.

560
00:35:33,006 --> 00:35:36,260
Thank you so much, Mr Warner. Thank you.

561
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:42,099
[Liburd] So often in our line of work,

562
00:35:42,182 --> 00:35:46,478
we do stories
hoping that we can create change.

563
00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:53,110
And, you know, a story's done,
but people kept it in a blind eye.

564
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:58,282
Jack Warner was involved
in the black market ticket trade again.

565
00:35:58,365 --> 00:36:01,201
Why hasn't this been investigated by FIFA?

566
00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:07,374
The Jack Warner case
is not a case that we have dealt with.

567
00:36:08,125 --> 00:36:11,211
Should it be knowledgeable to us

568
00:36:11,295 --> 00:36:17,175
by official means or by official channels,

569
00:36:17,259 --> 00:36:20,470
then naturally
then we would have a look on that.

570
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:27,227
[Oliver] There were no consequences.
Jack Warner stayed on.

571
00:36:30,772 --> 00:36:33,775
I remember my editor at the time
sort of saying afterwards, you know,

572
00:36:33,859 --> 00:36:37,279
"Well… I don't know,
what's the point, you know?

573
00:36:37,362 --> 00:36:39,990
We show this corruption,
and nothing happens."

574
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,495
Andrew viewed it slightly differently.
He said there was a bright side to this.

575
00:36:45,579 --> 00:36:47,915
He said, "Well, you know,
we'll be able to do another story

576
00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:50,542
because they're still there."

577
00:36:54,046 --> 00:36:57,049
[cheering]

578
00:37:05,807 --> 00:37:09,770
The decision
of the Confederation of African Football

579
00:37:09,853 --> 00:37:14,316
to hold the 20th Nations Cup tournament
in South Africa

580
00:37:14,399 --> 00:37:21,573
is the best gift Africa could present
our sporting community

581
00:37:21,657 --> 00:37:25,786
and in particular
to the soccer fraternity.

582
00:37:25,869 --> 00:37:28,997
For this we thank you
from the bottom of our hearts.

583
00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:36,755
[Jennings]
South Africa is being looted by FIFA,

584
00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:41,259
and I knew that three years ago
when Blatter went to the African Union.

585
00:37:41,343 --> 00:37:43,387
And when he said,
"We're doing this for Africa",

586
00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:46,264
I knew Africa
was gonna get robbed blind.

587
00:37:46,348 --> 00:37:48,058
It brings tears to your eyes

588
00:37:48,141 --> 00:37:53,647
to see that it's bringing nothing
whatsoever to the ordinary folk.

589
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:55,774
[cheering]

590
00:37:59,486 --> 00:38:01,071
[Wright] I got sent to go write

591
00:38:01,154 --> 00:38:04,491
about the stadiums
they were building in South Africa,

592
00:38:04,574 --> 00:38:10,122
and it took about 30 seconds to figure out
that, like, this doesn't make sense.

593
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:16,837
You cannot separate the way people feel
about their sports teams

594
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,256
from the way that they feel
about their home.

595
00:38:19,339 --> 00:38:21,967
That's all politics is really,

596
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:26,221
is weaponising people's hopes and dreams
and fears about their home.

597
00:38:27,389 --> 00:38:31,059
[reporter] When South Africa won the bid
to host the 2010 FIFA World Cup,

598
00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:33,520
attention immediately turned
to whether the Rainbow Nation

599
00:38:33,603 --> 00:38:35,814
could provide FIFA-approved stadia.

600
00:38:35,897 --> 00:38:38,692
South Africa put ten world-class venues
across nine host cities.

601
00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:45,699
[Liburd] But FIFA doesn't actually
put money in constructing football stadia.

602
00:38:45,782 --> 00:38:49,578
Only governments, you know,
spend taxpayers' money in that way.

603
00:38:49,661 --> 00:38:52,664
[man] Our government is concerned
about developing spaces,

604
00:38:52,748 --> 00:38:54,833
not population development.

605
00:38:54,916 --> 00:38:59,337
By building these stadia,
they are moving people away

606
00:38:59,421 --> 00:39:02,799
from their original places,
even in rural areas.

607
00:39:02,883 --> 00:39:08,764
To us, this World Cup
is a mass eviction of poor people.

608
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:12,684
[man 2] South Africa's spent more than
three billion euros building stadiums.

609
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:17,606
[woman] It cost nearly $150 million
to build the stadium,

610
00:39:17,689 --> 00:39:21,026
and only four FIFA games
will be played here.

611
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:25,489
Some locals are asking, could the money
have been better spent on something else?

612
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,575
[man 3] You know, this has been
a gigantic pyramid scheme

613
00:39:28,658 --> 00:39:30,911
where we've hosted the tournament,
we've paid for it,

614
00:39:30,994 --> 00:39:32,662
but the profits go somewhere else.

615
00:39:32,746 --> 00:39:35,457
It just seems like
a new form of colonialism to me.

616
00:39:38,835 --> 00:39:43,465
[Wright Thompson] No country
that has voters ever wants a World Cup.

617
00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:46,551
The only people
who ever have to host a World Cup

618
00:39:46,635 --> 00:39:48,845
are people who have it
shoved down their throat

619
00:39:48,929 --> 00:39:52,182
by people in power
who have ulterior motives.

620
00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,481
Sasha. Sasha, wake up.

621
00:40:01,108 --> 00:40:04,694
[chanting] Sasha! Sasha! Sasha! Sasha!

622
00:40:14,788 --> 00:40:17,958
Hi, I'm Nicole Kidman,
and I'm gonna show you

623
00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:23,421
why Australia is ready to host
the FIFA World Cup in 2018 or 2022.

624
00:40:24,214 --> 00:40:29,344
What makes us want to host the World Cup
is our belief in football.

625
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,890
Bringing the World Cup to Qatar
will be bringing the World Cup

626
00:40:33,974 --> 00:40:35,600
to the Middle East for the first time.

627
00:40:35,684 --> 00:40:38,979
[man] It's obvious why we would like
to host the World Cup.

628
00:40:39,062 --> 00:40:41,439
So why should England be chosen?

629
00:40:41,523 --> 00:40:44,818
We have fantastic stadiums,
some of the best.

630
00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:48,029
[man 2] Would we love the World Cup
in the United States?

631
00:40:48,113 --> 00:40:52,159
In how many languages can you say,
"Oh, yeah"?

632
00:40:54,494 --> 00:40:57,080
Countries enter bidding contests
for a number of reasons,

633
00:40:57,164 --> 00:41:01,793
the key one of which is usually to
exercise influence through soft diplomacy.

634
00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:06,965
In 2009, it was understood
that the big rivals for 2022

635
00:41:07,048 --> 00:41:08,633
were Australia and the USA.

636
00:41:08,717 --> 00:41:12,012
Mr Obama is naturally advocating,

637
00:41:12,095 --> 00:41:18,310
please, President Blatter,
make another move towards United States.

638
00:41:18,393 --> 00:41:21,146
[Mersiades] And frankly
the US could host a World Cup tomorrow.

639
00:41:21,229 --> 00:41:24,316
That's just such a big country
with all the facilities you need.

640
00:41:25,525 --> 00:41:28,612
[Goldblatt] I think the English-speaking
nations that were bidding,

641
00:41:28,695 --> 00:41:30,822
there was extraordinary naivety.

642
00:41:30,906 --> 00:41:34,534
The Americans are handing out goody bags

643
00:41:34,618 --> 00:41:40,040
with a badge, a pencil
and a signed biography of Bill Clinton.

644
00:41:40,123 --> 00:41:44,669
I spoke to Lord Triesman, and I asked him,
you know, "How's the bid going?"

645
00:41:44,753 --> 00:41:48,882
And he said, "We're gonna play
absolutely straight, no bribery,

646
00:41:48,965 --> 00:41:50,508
absolutely on our merits."

647
00:41:50,592 --> 00:41:53,345
And I thought, "Bless you. I love you.

648
00:41:53,428 --> 00:41:58,141
You can never, ever, ever win
the World Cup."

649
00:41:58,225 --> 00:42:02,771
The 2018 World Cup, do you think
you have a good chance to host it?

650
00:42:02,854 --> 00:42:04,689
[speaks Russian]

651
00:42:04,773 --> 00:42:06,775
[interpreter]
I proceed from the assumption

652
00:42:06,858 --> 00:42:11,863
that the members of FIFA will adopt
the decision in favour of Russia's choice.

653
00:42:11,947 --> 00:42:15,408
[man] The Australian government
strongly supports Australia's bid

654
00:42:15,492 --> 00:42:17,035
to host the FIFA World Cup.

655
00:42:17,118 --> 00:42:21,665
I hope and pray
that we may be the lucky country.

656
00:42:22,999 --> 00:42:26,586
[Mersiades] And at the time,
I had a bit of a suspicion about Qatar.

657
00:42:28,421 --> 00:42:31,383
And in fact one of our consultants said,
you know, "Don't be stupid.

658
00:42:31,466 --> 00:42:35,637
Of course Qatar are not going to win it.
They can't possibly host it.

659
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:40,600
Qatar's hot, you know,
it's bloody hot in June,

660
00:42:40,684 --> 00:42:42,852
and not even Mohammed wants it."

661
00:42:42,936 --> 00:42:46,398
Referring to Mohammed bin Hammam,
who is on the FIFA executive committee.

662
00:42:47,357 --> 00:42:52,570
But what I found over the course
of digging a bit deeper into this was,

663
00:42:52,654 --> 00:42:56,366
it was absolutely clear,
nothing is based on merit.

664
00:42:57,158 --> 00:43:01,830
Australia paid $14.7 million
to three supposed consultants

665
00:43:01,913 --> 00:43:04,165
during the bidding for the World Cup.

666
00:43:04,249 --> 00:43:06,376
This is an established fact.

667
00:43:06,459 --> 00:43:10,130
The consultants they hired
were totally dirty.

668
00:43:11,006 --> 00:43:14,926
Peter Hargitay, he was locked up
for seven months in 1997

669
00:43:15,010 --> 00:43:17,387
for cocaine trafficking and bond fraud.

670
00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:22,017
Millions and millions of British pounds
went into those consultants,

671
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,687
and it was reasonable to suspect

672
00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:28,189
that most of that money
was black bag money.

673
00:43:30,066 --> 00:43:34,362
Consultants and bidding committees
have become very, very good

674
00:43:34,446 --> 00:43:38,533
over the last 20 years
of working out who's available,

675
00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:41,745
what do they want
and how do you get to them?

676
00:43:41,828 --> 00:43:46,333
The FIFA executive committee
was the body that made the decision

677
00:43:46,416 --> 00:43:48,585
on who gets to host the World Cup.

678
00:43:48,668 --> 00:43:55,008
So to win 2018 or 2022,
you had to please 13 of the 24 men.

679
00:43:55,091 --> 00:43:57,635
[Goldblatt]
So it's people like Chuck Blazer.

680
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,013
It's people like Jack Warner.

681
00:44:00,096 --> 00:44:03,641
These are the kinds of characters
who are making the decision.

682
00:44:03,725 --> 00:44:06,936
And we all know
that they have their price.

683
00:44:07,854 --> 00:44:10,774
[Mersiades] I had gone to my boss
and my boss's boss and said,

684
00:44:10,857 --> 00:44:12,859
"Look, I'm not comfortable
with what we're doing."

685
00:44:12,942 --> 00:44:16,488
There was no way
this was a merit-based assessment.

686
00:44:16,571 --> 00:44:19,908
And the result of that was
I was eventually sacked

687
00:44:19,991 --> 00:44:23,495
because it just became too annoying
for them to keep hearing it.

688
00:44:25,538 --> 00:44:30,960
But Andrew Jennings always used to say
to me, "Revenge is best served cold."

689
00:44:31,044 --> 00:44:34,798
And that was his understanding,
that in gathering evidence,

690
00:44:34,881 --> 00:44:37,926
putting together papers,
that can take time.

691
00:44:38,009 --> 00:44:40,887
He would always end every conversation
with, "Onwards and upwards."

692
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:43,973
And I found that really quite inspiring.

693
00:44:44,057 --> 00:44:47,143
[Jennings] Thank you for doing this.
I'm sorry we're not being more hospitable.

694
00:44:47,227 --> 00:44:48,978
[Oliver] Not at all.

695
00:44:49,062 --> 00:44:53,358
[Jennings] We're going flat out
on working out a one-hour film.

696
00:44:53,441 --> 00:44:55,985
- [Oliver] What's the next film about?
- Well, FIFA.

697
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:57,612
[laughter]

698
00:44:57,695 --> 00:45:00,615
I think, as a journalist, you're always
hoping to get hold of the document

699
00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,701
that will absolutely nail the story.

700
00:45:04,786 --> 00:45:06,371
And it doesn't happen very often.

701
00:45:06,454 --> 00:45:07,956
[Jennings] Stupid sports reporters.

702
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:10,667
[Oliver] We didn't have enough
to name names,

703
00:45:10,750 --> 00:45:12,836
and nobody in the sport
will go on the record.

704
00:45:12,919 --> 00:45:14,212
[phone rings]

705
00:45:14,295 --> 00:45:17,257
Until Andrew got a call from a source.

706
00:45:18,675 --> 00:45:20,677
James, are you there?

707
00:45:30,478 --> 00:45:32,981
[Oliver] We flew out to meet someone.

708
00:45:35,817 --> 00:45:38,361
We didn't know how much
they were gonna tell us.

709
00:45:41,406 --> 00:45:44,451
And Andrew's kind of doing the pitch.

710
00:45:44,534 --> 00:45:49,539
"You know that any information
you give me, absolutely in confidence."

711
00:45:50,957 --> 00:45:52,917
I can see the guy's got his hand down

712
00:45:53,001 --> 00:45:57,422
and he's sort of pulling out
a couple of leaves of paper,

713
00:45:57,505 --> 00:45:59,424
pulling it half out,
and then it goes down again

714
00:45:59,507 --> 00:46:01,593
as Andrew keeps talking,
and then it comes up again,

715
00:46:01,676 --> 00:46:03,178
there's a gap, and then it's down.

716
00:46:03,261 --> 00:46:07,223
And I'm going, "Andrew, Andrew,
I think he's got something for us."

717
00:46:08,099 --> 00:46:11,019
[Jennings] Eventually I looked at it.
He reached into his briefcase.

718
00:46:11,102 --> 00:46:13,730
He produced some sheets of paper
and he said,

719
00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:16,691
"I think this is what
you've been waiting for."

720
00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:20,612
[Oliver] "I think this is what
you've been waiting for."

721
00:46:22,989 --> 00:46:26,034
And that was the ISL bribe list.

722
00:46:26,117 --> 00:46:28,411
A trusted source delivered the goods.

723
00:46:28,995 --> 00:46:30,371
[commentator speaks Spanish]

724
00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:34,459
[in Spanish] Goal!

725
00:46:35,084 --> 00:46:41,132
Goal!

726
00:46:41,216 --> 00:46:46,429
[Oliver] This had been something Andrew
had been after for God knows how long.

727
00:46:47,514 --> 00:46:55,396
I got hold of a list of 106 bribes
totalling 100 million US dollars.

728
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,607
[Oliver] What made it so valuable to us

729
00:46:57,690 --> 00:47:01,861
was that in four cases,
names had been attached.

730
00:47:01,945 --> 00:47:05,949
We knew it, but we couldn't prove it,
and suddenly there was the proof.

731
00:47:06,032 --> 00:47:09,452
[Jennings] Havelange had
45 million US dollars, at least,

732
00:47:09,536 --> 00:47:14,415
for those fantastic really
non-tender contracts for the World Cup.

733
00:47:15,208 --> 00:47:17,335
[Oliver] "Holy grail" might sound
a bit over the top,

734
00:47:17,418 --> 00:47:21,422
but it was absolutely what we'd been
hoping for and wishing for

735
00:47:21,506 --> 00:47:24,551
and trying to find for a very long time.

736
00:47:25,426 --> 00:47:31,349
And then we had a few beers,
and I phoned my editor.

737
00:47:31,432 --> 00:47:34,060
We suddenly had evidence
against three of the people,

738
00:47:34,143 --> 00:47:36,479
the executive committee members,
who are about to vote

739
00:47:36,563 --> 00:47:40,024
on who should get
the 2018 and '22 World Cup.

740
00:47:42,694 --> 00:47:45,154
For a moment, that's triumph.

741
00:47:54,497 --> 00:47:57,500
- [bleep]
- [Panorama theme music]

742
00:47:57,584 --> 00:48:00,461
[reporter] Last night's "Panorama" claimed
that three of the men

743
00:48:00,545 --> 00:48:02,630
who will have a vote on Thursday

744
00:48:02,714 --> 00:48:05,425
took bribes
from a Swiss sports marketing firm.

745
00:48:05,508 --> 00:48:09,721
[interpreter] The FIFA members have been
slandered absolutely groundlessly.

746
00:48:09,804 --> 00:48:12,432
They want to compromise that organisation.

747
00:48:12,515 --> 00:48:15,101
The allegations were made
in a BBC television programme.

748
00:48:15,184 --> 00:48:16,644
Of course it has an impact.

749
00:48:16,728 --> 00:48:18,980
[reporter] The English bid team
is well aware of the damage

750
00:48:19,063 --> 00:48:21,816
that's likely to have been caused
to their campaign.

751
00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:26,738
There was this nationalist atmosphere:
don't rock the boat.

752
00:48:26,821 --> 00:48:29,115
[reporter]
There's no doubt that England 2018

753
00:48:29,198 --> 00:48:32,910
are worried about the possible fallout
from Monday's Panorama.

754
00:48:32,994 --> 00:48:38,082
The England Football Association
actually asking the BBC

755
00:48:38,166 --> 00:48:42,003
not to broadcast the programme,
which is just extraordinary.

756
00:48:42,086 --> 00:48:45,506
Is it frustrating that Panorama's doing
this programme a few days before?

757
00:48:45,590 --> 00:48:46,591
Of course it is.

758
00:48:46,674 --> 00:48:51,721
Just last week, the chief executive, Andy
Anson, described the BBC as unpatriotic.

759
00:48:51,804 --> 00:48:59,020
[Oliver] The Sun newspaper's headline
was "BBC Brainless Betraying Cretinous".

760
00:48:59,103 --> 00:49:00,605
And that was us.

761
00:49:01,356 --> 00:49:05,276
[reporter] England's bid team say all of
this is upsetting some of the key voters,

762
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,655
such as this man,
FIFA vice president Jack Warner,

763
00:49:08,738 --> 00:49:11,949
who claimed this week
the BBC had a death wish.

764
00:49:12,033 --> 00:49:16,079
[Oliver] I think the view was taken that
we were going to lose England the vote.

765
00:49:16,162 --> 00:49:18,790
I just would love the World Cup
to come to this country.

766
00:49:18,873 --> 00:49:21,501
I think it's long overdue.

767
00:49:21,584 --> 00:49:24,504
[Lineker] I was drafted in very late.

768
00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:27,298
When your country calls you,
you have to try and do your bit,

769
00:49:27,382 --> 00:49:30,301
although I thought
it was a bit of a late shout.

770
00:49:30,385 --> 00:49:32,512
[reporter] Footballers, prime ministers

771
00:49:32,595 --> 00:49:36,099
and even our future king
are descending on Zurich.

772
00:49:37,225 --> 00:49:41,354
The challenge for the English delegation
is to negate the impact of this.

773
00:49:42,021 --> 00:49:44,190
In the past few minutes,
FIFA has issued a statement

774
00:49:44,273 --> 00:49:46,734
saying that the allegations
made in the BBC programme

775
00:49:46,818 --> 00:49:49,779
refer to a case dating back many years

776
00:49:49,862 --> 00:49:53,950
and that the investigation and the case
are definitely closed.

777
00:49:54,826 --> 00:49:57,161
[Mersiades] Then they just did
the usual thing of saying,

778
00:49:57,245 --> 00:50:00,081
"Well, this is all old stuff.
We knew all this."

779
00:50:00,164 --> 00:50:03,042
Yet, in fact, they didn't,
because the list with the names

780
00:50:03,126 --> 00:50:05,795
and the amounts of money
and the dates on which it was transferred

781
00:50:05,878 --> 00:50:08,005
had not been previously known
or published.

782
00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:09,799
And yet the reception was,

783
00:50:09,882 --> 00:50:13,094
"Don't take any notice of him
cos he's a discredited moron.

784
00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:15,930
People should just ignore it."

785
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:18,725
And that's precisely what they did.

786
00:50:20,476 --> 00:50:24,647
[Lineker] It was the night
before the vote to decide.

787
00:50:24,731 --> 00:50:27,108
I thought it was extraordinarily odd,

788
00:50:28,401 --> 00:50:30,820
because when I looked around the room,

789
00:50:31,904 --> 00:50:36,033
all the other countries
that were bidding weren't there.

790
00:50:36,117 --> 00:50:38,369
And I thought to myself, I thought,

791
00:50:38,453 --> 00:50:41,080
"This is all decided.
Everybody knows what's happening here."

792
00:50:42,707 --> 00:50:45,877
Cos it was just
so obviously, obviously corrupt.

793
00:50:48,796 --> 00:50:51,257
[reporter] England has just finished,
and now Russia is making

794
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:53,801
its final presentation
in front of the FIFA executives.

795
00:50:53,885 --> 00:50:57,930
This is the last pitch
before the decision, the voting process.

796
00:50:58,014 --> 00:50:59,766
[newsreader]
We're less than two hours away.

797
00:50:59,849 --> 00:51:04,437
FIFA is set to reveal host countries
for the World Cup in 2018 and 2022.

798
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,441
It's the first time that they have ever
announced back-to-back bids.

799
00:51:08,524 --> 00:51:12,111
The US is a strong candidate for 2022.

800
00:51:12,195 --> 00:51:16,824
The FIFA executive committee has
undertaken the voting a few minutes ago.

801
00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:20,411
The president will announce the results
of the voting.

802
00:51:21,245 --> 00:51:23,831
[Blatter] It has been explained to you,

803
00:51:23,915 --> 00:51:27,960
we have to give two World Cups
on the same day.

804
00:51:29,253 --> 00:51:32,799
Big, big compliments to all the bidders,

805
00:51:32,882 --> 00:51:36,427
accompanied
by their political dignitaries.

806
00:51:36,511 --> 00:51:41,307
They have all delivered messages
saying that football is more than a game.

807
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:46,103
So, ladies and gentlemen,
everybody is now awaiting

808
00:51:46,187 --> 00:51:51,150
the 2018 FIFA World Cup.

809
00:51:51,234 --> 00:51:54,737
2018 FIFA World Cup, ladies and gentlemen,

810
00:51:54,821 --> 00:51:57,949
will be organised in Russia.

811
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,333
[Lineker]
When Russia won, that was a huge blow.

812
00:52:09,210 --> 00:52:12,296
They were shocked, absolutely shocked.

813
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:14,048
Congratulations to Russia.

814
00:52:14,966 --> 00:52:18,344
[Lineker] But the 2022 one
was… was gobsmacking.

815
00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:21,556
The winner to organise

816
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,351
the 2022 FIFA World Cup…

817
00:52:29,897 --> 00:52:31,107
is Qatar.

818
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:43,369
You just thought, "How?"

819
00:52:44,203 --> 00:52:45,872
And I remember
sitting in that auditorium,

820
00:52:45,955 --> 00:52:48,916
and I felt like I needed to get back
to the hotel and have a shower.

821
00:52:50,126 --> 00:52:51,210
It just felt dirty.

822
00:52:52,336 --> 00:52:54,422
And they won it easily.

823
00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:59,385
[Mersiades] Qatar in particular
was such a surprise to everybody.

824
00:52:59,468 --> 00:53:00,761
They won it so quickly.

825
00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:02,263
In four votes, it was over.

826
00:53:09,103 --> 00:53:12,064
Almost from that second,
FIFA knew that it was in trouble.

827
00:53:12,148 --> 00:53:14,984
There's stories of Jérôme Valcke,
the second in command,

828
00:53:15,067 --> 00:53:18,905
rocking and shaking his head
at the back of the communications bus

829
00:53:18,988 --> 00:53:21,616
as they go back to headquarters,
saying, "FIFA is over."

830
00:53:21,699 --> 00:53:24,911
This has been, you know…
This has been a step too far.

831
00:53:25,703 --> 00:53:29,540
The prime minister gave us support,
the way Prince William gave us support,

832
00:53:29,624 --> 00:53:32,251
the way, you know,
everyone performed up there with…

833
00:53:32,335 --> 00:53:36,422
I think it was a mixture of emotions
to be ridiculed in that way

834
00:53:36,505 --> 00:53:38,883
by losing out at the first stage,

835
00:53:38,966 --> 00:53:43,346
to not get any votes,
just one in the first round.

836
00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:46,849
There was a degree of panic
as to how this would be seen.

837
00:53:46,933 --> 00:53:49,685
I certainly know one thing, which is
when it comes to breaking promises,

838
00:53:49,769 --> 00:53:52,104
politicians have got nothing
on football management.

839
00:53:52,188 --> 00:53:55,149
- I… I, um…
- [laughter and cheering]

840
00:53:57,276 --> 00:54:01,030
[reporter] After pouring $45 million
into a World Cup campaign,

841
00:54:01,113 --> 00:54:03,574
Australia received just one vote.

842
00:54:03,658 --> 00:54:07,244
I'm bitterly disappointed,
disappointed for you.

843
00:54:07,328 --> 00:54:12,792
[man] Why decide to put a World Cup
in Qatar, which is vastly too hot,

844
00:54:12,875 --> 00:54:16,712
against the advice
of their own safety committee?

845
00:54:17,505 --> 00:54:21,842
50 degrees Celsius
is 122 degrees Fahrenheit.

846
00:54:21,926 --> 00:54:25,721
You are hosting the World Cup somewhere
where soccer cannot physically be played.

847
00:54:25,805 --> 00:54:28,599
They are not a football country.

848
00:54:28,683 --> 00:54:33,062
Uh, the level… football level
is very low in this country.

849
00:54:34,105 --> 00:54:36,148
[man] I think it's unusual,
to say the least,

850
00:54:36,232 --> 00:54:39,235
to hold an event
of this extraordinary magnitude

851
00:54:39,318 --> 00:54:41,404
in a country, in effect, of one city.

852
00:54:42,405 --> 00:54:46,367
The silver lining of those two countries
winning it, and particularly Qatar,

853
00:54:46,450 --> 00:54:50,162
because it seemed such
a nonsensical decision on the face of it,

854
00:54:50,246 --> 00:54:54,291
was that it started to make people
ask questions about FIFA.

855
00:54:54,959 --> 00:54:59,672
Russia gets the bid in '18
and Qatar gets it in 2022.

856
00:54:59,755 --> 00:55:01,799
Is it possible
that they just wanna give it to places

857
00:55:01,882 --> 00:55:03,759
that have never had the World Cup before?

858
00:55:03,843 --> 00:55:05,845
It's possible that they wanna grow
those markets,

859
00:55:05,928 --> 00:55:08,597
although I don't know
what the market in Qatar is exactly.

860
00:55:09,807 --> 00:55:12,268
[reporter] Now, you may not know much
about Qatar's soccer team.

861
00:55:12,351 --> 00:55:15,604
They've never qualified for the World Cup.
Now automatically they're gonna get in.

862
00:55:15,688 --> 00:55:20,526
Pretty big coup, to say the least, for
a country that only existed since 1971.

863
00:55:26,574 --> 00:55:28,200
The most interesting thing about Qatar

864
00:55:28,284 --> 00:55:31,287
is the huge differences
inside the country.

865
00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:35,374
They are really rich,
they live in fancy buildings,

866
00:55:35,458 --> 00:55:38,919
and then you have the migrant workers
who are building all this.

867
00:55:39,003 --> 00:55:41,088
They are definitely not from Qatar.

868
00:55:41,172 --> 00:55:43,174
They come from all around the world.

869
00:55:44,425 --> 00:55:46,385
[Hill] The issue for Qatar has always been

870
00:55:46,469 --> 00:55:49,930
that it's a small,
extraordinary rich country

871
00:55:50,014 --> 00:55:52,475
and almost indefensible by hard power.

872
00:55:55,394 --> 00:55:58,022
Their nightmare,
their collective nightmare,

873
00:55:58,105 --> 00:56:01,692
was what had happened
to the Kuwaitis in 1989.

874
00:56:01,776 --> 00:56:05,071
This conflict started
when the dictator of Iraq

875
00:56:05,154 --> 00:56:07,698
invaded a small and helpless neighbour.

876
00:56:09,158 --> 00:56:11,035
[Hill] The Qataris looked at this, said,

877
00:56:11,118 --> 00:56:13,329
"We've gotta figure out
a way of defending ourselves

878
00:56:13,412 --> 00:56:15,456
by building soft power."

879
00:56:16,207 --> 00:56:19,043
That's why we see Qatar
going on a massive spending spree

880
00:56:19,126 --> 00:56:21,837
over the past few years, you know,
buying banks in the region,

881
00:56:21,921 --> 00:56:24,173
buying trophy assets,
buying Paris Saint-Germain.

882
00:56:24,256 --> 00:56:27,468
[Hill]
Which was the French establishment team.

883
00:56:27,551 --> 00:56:32,056
They spent 220 million euro
on just one player.

884
00:56:32,139 --> 00:56:34,934
[reporter] This absolutely shatters
the previous world record fee,

885
00:56:35,017 --> 00:56:38,521
which was around the $115 million mark.

886
00:56:38,604 --> 00:56:40,356
This is all part of the strategy, Richard.

887
00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:47,988
[Hill] This was a few weeks after Saudi
Arabia had surrounded Qatar in a blockade.

888
00:56:49,573 --> 00:56:52,701
The President of France,
Emmanuel Macron, that time,

889
00:56:52,785 --> 00:56:57,873
flies to Saudi Arabia to help,
quote, "negotiate" on behalf of Qatar

890
00:56:57,957 --> 00:57:01,752
and end the blockade with Saudi Arabia.

891
00:57:01,836 --> 00:57:04,130
[newsreader] Saudi Arabia announced
the kingdom is ending

892
00:57:04,213 --> 00:57:06,882
its embargo of the Arab state.

893
00:57:06,966 --> 00:57:11,512
[Hill] That is an extraordinarily
effective tactic of soft power,

894
00:57:11,595 --> 00:57:14,849
when you consider the expense
and the resources needed for hard power,

895
00:57:14,932 --> 00:57:17,017
relatively cheap.

896
00:57:17,101 --> 00:57:18,644
If they had bought a fighter jet,

897
00:57:18,727 --> 00:57:21,188
it would have cost them 500 million euro

898
00:57:21,272 --> 00:57:26,026
and it wouldn't have stopped a Saudi
invasion by more than 15, 20 minutes,

899
00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:28,279
but by buying one football player,

900
00:57:28,362 --> 00:57:31,991
they were able to help
bring an end to this blockade.

901
00:57:33,993 --> 00:57:37,538
[newsreader] Allegations that Qatar
bought its way to hosting the World Cup

902
00:57:37,621 --> 00:57:41,333
have been vigorously denied
by the chief executive of Qatar's bid.

903
00:57:41,417 --> 00:57:43,669
Speaking for the first time
since their victory,

904
00:57:43,752 --> 00:57:46,130
Hassan Al Thawadi told the BBC

905
00:57:46,213 --> 00:57:49,383
that claims of corruption
were based on prejudice.

906
00:57:49,466 --> 00:57:51,135
Absolute outrage. Why?

907
00:57:51,218 --> 00:57:53,137
If there's evidence,
investigate the evidence.

908
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:57,057
I agree with that completely, and
we've always said that. Please go ahead.

909
00:57:57,141 --> 00:57:59,727
But there's no evidence,
there's nothing there,

910
00:57:59,810 --> 00:58:01,812
and it's based on rumours.

911
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:07,985
I witnessed 1.5 million dollars
being offered to three Exco members

912
00:58:08,068 --> 00:58:12,823
in exchange for them
to vote for the Qatar 2022 bid.

913
00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:17,328
[Jennings] Nobody wants to go to Qatar.

914
00:58:18,495 --> 00:58:21,498
The fans don't wanna go.
The footballers don't wanna go.

915
00:58:21,582 --> 00:58:23,626
The clubs don't wanna let them go.

916
00:58:25,002 --> 00:58:27,588
What has Qatar done
to deserve this honour?

917
00:58:27,671 --> 00:58:29,715
Forced labour of migrant workers,

918
00:58:29,798 --> 00:58:32,843
death penalty for same-sex relations
and blasphemy,

919
00:58:32,927 --> 00:58:35,179
flogging for alcohol consumption,

920
00:58:35,262 --> 00:58:37,097
a ban on all political parties,

921
00:58:37,181 --> 00:58:39,266
the guardianship system for women,

922
00:58:39,350 --> 00:58:42,978
and major restrictions
on freedom of expression.

923
00:58:43,062 --> 00:58:44,855
This is Qatar's track record.

924
00:58:44,939 --> 00:58:48,651
[reporter] Fans, knowing that there are
designated spots where you can drink,

925
00:58:48,734 --> 00:58:51,278
will overconsume alcohol
to make up for it.

926
00:58:51,362 --> 00:58:54,156
This is turning into
a Fyre Festival sort of deal.

927
00:58:55,241 --> 00:58:59,203
Qatar is a huge, huge problem
for the sport.

928
00:58:59,286 --> 00:59:00,287
In fact, Beckham himself,

929
00:59:00,371 --> 00:59:02,957
I don't really understand
why he's getting involved with this.

930
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,375
He's extremely rich already.

931
00:59:04,458 --> 00:59:05,459
I'll be there.

932
00:59:05,542 --> 00:59:07,419
[man] I mean, he's worth
about 400 million pounds.

933
00:59:07,503 --> 00:59:09,797
Is it gonna make a big difference to him?

934
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,841
[man 2] Critics of Qatar will say,
"They're buying their way into the books,

935
00:59:12,925 --> 00:59:15,970
into the favours of governments
and organisations."

936
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:19,265
Protests have been building up,
and I think they will go on building up.

937
00:59:22,059 --> 00:59:24,561
And that's why journalists
named the people

938
00:59:24,645 --> 00:59:29,149
who really gave it
to the Gulf and to Putin.

939
00:59:30,067 --> 00:59:31,902
[bell rings]

940
00:59:31,986 --> 00:59:34,363
[piano intro plays]

941
00:59:39,243 --> 00:59:43,247
♪ I found my thrill ♪

942
00:59:43,998 --> 00:59:47,501
♪ On Blueberry Hill… ♪

943
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:51,714
[Goldblatt] I think we should remember
that the Qatar World Cup

944
00:59:51,797 --> 00:59:57,886
was awarded at the same time that Russia
was awarded the 2018 World Cup.

945
00:59:57,970 --> 01:00:00,931
And it always strikes me as odd
that Russia,

946
01:00:01,015 --> 01:00:04,059
who was an authoritarian society,

947
01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:07,563
is sort of waved through.

948
01:00:07,646 --> 01:00:12,318
[reporter] More allegations of bribery
emerged in the British press on Sunday.

949
01:00:12,401 --> 01:00:17,364
The most sensational allegation of all
was that Russian President Vladimir Putin

950
01:00:17,448 --> 01:00:23,287
allegedly bought European football chief
Michel Platini a rare Picasso painting.

951
01:00:24,413 --> 01:00:28,876
- [interviewer, in French] In English?
- I don't speak English.

952
01:00:28,959 --> 01:00:31,003
[applause]

953
01:00:32,755 --> 01:00:39,136
Ladies and gentlemen, we are honoured
to win in this tough and fair fight.

954
01:00:40,179 --> 01:00:42,181
You can take my word for it,

955
01:00:42,264 --> 01:00:48,937
the 2018 World Cup in Russia
will be up to the highest standards.

956
01:00:49,021 --> 01:00:53,859
Now, here's the thing. Putin has already
won this World Cup just by getting it.

957
01:00:56,779 --> 01:01:00,616
Russia as a whole, tourists now see it
as this, like, open, fun place.

958
01:01:00,699 --> 01:01:03,702
- Russia's the best!
- Russia forever! Russia!

959
01:01:03,786 --> 01:01:07,039
We believe that politics
should be independent from football.

960
01:01:07,122 --> 01:01:09,958
Russia's operations
in the world of football

961
01:01:10,042 --> 01:01:14,296
have been very smart, very slick
and very organised.

962
01:01:14,380 --> 01:01:17,216
I mean, when you've got
a world-class intelligence agency

963
01:01:17,299 --> 01:01:19,051
that you're prepared to use,

964
01:01:19,134 --> 01:01:21,553
who wants to go and investigate Russia?

965
01:01:22,554 --> 01:01:25,933
[reporter] Russia's human rights record
is poor, to say the least.

966
01:01:26,016 --> 01:01:27,518
And Putin wants to break out of that.

967
01:01:27,601 --> 01:01:29,603
He wants to say,
"Russia's not what you think.

968
01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:34,316
Russia is not the evil empire,
even though there's problems between us."

969
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,487
[Goldblatt] And the Garcia Report, which
was FIFA's response to these allegations,

970
01:01:38,570 --> 01:01:42,241
you know, they went to the Russians
and said, "We wanna see your emails."

971
01:01:42,324 --> 01:01:44,493
And they said, "You can't see our emails."

972
01:01:44,576 --> 01:01:47,871
"Why can't we see your emails?
They're all on your server."

973
01:01:47,955 --> 01:01:51,333
And they said,
"Oh, yes, the server… burnt in a fire."

974
01:01:54,962 --> 01:01:56,839
[Mersiades] So what did they do?

975
01:01:56,922 --> 01:01:59,007
Garcia, after this very expensive report,

976
01:01:59,091 --> 01:02:03,303
in which he travelled around the world
in typical FIFA luxury,

977
01:02:03,387 --> 01:02:06,932
he came out with a report which said
there was nothing to see with Russia,

978
01:02:07,015 --> 01:02:08,934
there was nothing to see with Qatar.

979
01:02:09,017 --> 01:02:10,894
[reporter]
Qatar and Russia were cleared today,

980
01:02:10,978 --> 01:02:13,730
even though the Russians said, basically,
"The dog ate my homework",

981
01:02:13,814 --> 01:02:16,483
and FIFA just accepted this
and cleared them.

982
01:02:18,235 --> 01:02:20,863
This just makes a mockery
of the organisation, doesn't it?

983
01:02:20,946 --> 01:02:24,908
Well, it's very Kafkaesque, I guess,
is the best way to put it, and very FIFA.

984
01:02:25,868 --> 01:02:28,579
[Szymanski] This is not the first time
we've seen FIFA

985
01:02:28,662 --> 01:02:30,956
turning its back on political issues

986
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:35,043
and turning a blind eye
to unsavoury regimes

987
01:02:35,127 --> 01:02:37,671
with which they were doing business.

988
01:02:37,754 --> 01:02:40,674
The 1978 World Cup happened
in the middle of the Dirty War,

989
01:02:40,757 --> 01:02:43,177
a period of time in Argentina

990
01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:47,514
when a military dictatorship took over
for the democratically elected government

991
01:02:47,598 --> 01:02:50,476
and started going around

992
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,562
and they started disappearing people.

993
01:02:54,605 --> 01:02:56,690
They would take them
to these concentration camps.

994
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,443
They would basically torture them
till they named names.

995
01:02:59,526 --> 01:03:00,527
[cheering]

996
01:03:00,611 --> 01:03:06,158
People in a concentration camp
could hear the cheers from the stadium,

997
01:03:07,743 --> 01:03:11,038
which is not that far away
from where they were being tortured.

998
01:03:13,332 --> 01:03:16,001
And then the people they tortured,

999
01:03:16,084 --> 01:03:18,712
they would take them up in airplanes

1000
01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:21,924
and throw them out alive.

1001
01:03:25,761 --> 01:03:29,056
[in Spanish] They're not here,
neither dead or alive. They are missing.

1002
01:03:30,682 --> 01:03:34,520
[Wright Thompson] The night
that Argentina won the 1978 World Cup,

1003
01:03:34,603 --> 01:03:38,982
they drove prisoners
through the celebration, as if to say,

1004
01:03:39,066 --> 01:03:43,445
"They don't care about you.
They don't even know that you're missing.

1005
01:03:43,529 --> 01:03:47,699
The joy of this has washed
even your existence away."

1006
01:03:50,077 --> 01:03:52,663
Sportswashing,
it's existed for a very long time.

1007
01:03:54,748 --> 01:03:58,710
But in modern times, unfortunately,
we're seeing that getting worse.

1008
01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:01,547
We've seen it in motor racing.

1009
01:04:01,630 --> 01:04:05,133
We've seen it in…
We've seen cricket playing out there.

1010
01:04:05,217 --> 01:04:07,094
There's been obviously golf now,

1011
01:04:07,177 --> 01:04:11,807
with the whole LIV tour
and how that's torn golf apart.

1012
01:04:11,890 --> 01:04:14,768
Sportswashing makes you forget
a country's crimes,

1013
01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:16,186
the human rights abuses.

1014
01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:18,647
Instead you see
the wonderful opening ceremonies,

1015
01:04:18,730 --> 01:04:21,024
you see hundreds of athletes
enjoying themselves.

1016
01:04:21,108 --> 01:04:25,487
As viewers, we cannot make a difference
here, but the sporting bodies can.

1017
01:04:25,571 --> 01:04:27,906
So can the sponsors and governments.

1018
01:04:30,867 --> 01:04:34,830
[newsreader] The title of your article,
"Soccer Needs To Kick Out Its Dictator".

1019
01:04:34,913 --> 01:04:39,042
Explain why Sepp Blatter,
in your words, is a dictator.

1020
01:04:39,126 --> 01:04:43,672
Well, Sepp Blatter has been at…
with FIFA since 1975.

1021
01:04:43,755 --> 01:04:48,760
There's nobody else inside FIFA
who could stand up to him.

1022
01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:54,349
[Togoni] Bin Hammam was upset.

1023
01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:57,686
He supported Blatter
for his election in 1998.

1024
01:04:57,769 --> 01:05:00,022
Blatter said he will not stay
like Havelange forever.

1025
01:05:00,105 --> 01:05:03,275
He promised to step down after two terms.

1026
01:05:03,358 --> 01:05:05,569
But Blatter then, he cancelled this.

1027
01:05:05,652 --> 01:05:10,282
Blatter went for a third term
and he was trying to go for a fourth term.

1028
01:05:11,992 --> 01:05:15,203
[Goldblatt]
In 2011, Bin Hammam, he's manoeuvring

1029
01:05:15,287 --> 01:05:19,625
and thinking Blatter's upset enough
people, now is the moment to strike.

1030
01:05:21,335 --> 01:05:24,421
So Mo, as I like to call him,
calls Jack and says,

1031
01:05:24,504 --> 01:05:28,300
"Concacaf has 35 votes.
Jack, get your people together."

1032
01:05:28,383 --> 01:05:32,721
Jack calls a special meeting
of the Caribbean Football Union

1033
01:05:32,804 --> 01:05:36,975
and they all meet in the Royal Hyatt
in Port-of-Spain in Trinidad.

1034
01:05:37,059 --> 01:05:40,479
And Jack gives a speech, which is actually
recorded, where he basically says,

1035
01:05:40,562 --> 01:05:45,484
"This is a gift from Qatar.
Just think of this as a goodwill gift."

1036
01:05:45,567 --> 01:05:49,237
$40,000 in cash in brown envelopes,

1037
01:05:49,321 --> 01:05:52,574
an actual brown Manila envelope

1038
01:05:52,658 --> 01:05:57,829
for every single president
of every single Caribbean federation.

1039
01:05:57,913 --> 01:06:03,293
[Warner] The gift you get is for you
to determine how best you want to use it,

1040
01:06:03,377 --> 01:06:07,839
and if there is anybody here
who has a conscience

1041
01:06:07,923 --> 01:06:10,300
and wishes to send back the money,

1042
01:06:10,384 --> 01:06:14,054
I am willing to take it and give it back
to him at the end of the month.

1043
01:06:15,722 --> 01:06:18,308
The new exploitation
is a new form of colonialism.

1044
01:06:18,392 --> 01:06:20,185
Give the buggers money
and they'll vote for us.

1045
01:06:20,268 --> 01:06:22,396
That's how Blatter won the last election.

1046
01:06:23,230 --> 01:06:26,608
Cos what would you do
if you were penniless in Rwanda

1047
01:06:26,692 --> 01:06:31,113
and a guy from the Gulf turned up
and offered you 10,000 US dollars to vote?

1048
01:06:31,196 --> 01:06:35,117
What do you say to your wife and kids?
What do you say to them?

1049
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,954
[Warner] There are some people here
who believe they are more pious than thou.

1050
01:06:39,037 --> 01:06:42,624
If you are pious,
open a church, friends, right?

1051
01:06:42,708 --> 01:06:46,211
But the fact is
our business is our business.

1052
01:06:46,294 --> 01:06:50,799
[Goldblatt] This is our business.
Business doesn't go out of this room.

1053
01:06:50,882 --> 01:06:53,635
But some people
have a moment of conscience,

1054
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:56,680
and a couple of them
actually phone Chuck Blazer,

1055
01:06:56,763 --> 01:06:58,765
Chuck Blazer, back in New York.

1056
01:06:58,849 --> 01:07:03,353
Blazer can't believe this. It's so brazen.
Even for Chuck Blazer.

1057
01:07:03,437 --> 01:07:06,440
And Chuck panics.
And is this gonna get out?

1058
01:07:06,523 --> 01:07:08,191
And are they gonna call FIFA?

1059
01:07:08,275 --> 01:07:11,445
And how is this gonna look?
And am I gonna get caught?

1060
01:07:11,528 --> 01:07:15,282
And he calls FIFA. He calls Blatter
that weekend and spills the beans.

1061
01:07:18,452 --> 01:07:23,039
And of course Blatter is delighted
that his upstart competitor, Bin Hammam,

1062
01:07:23,123 --> 01:07:24,791
has been caught red-handed.

1063
01:07:25,876 --> 01:07:28,086
[reporter] According to sources
I've spoken to tonight,

1064
01:07:28,170 --> 01:07:30,380
Bin Hammam and Warner are accused

1065
01:07:30,464 --> 01:07:34,509
of trying to bribe Caribbean
football officials with bundles of cash

1066
01:07:34,593 --> 01:07:38,847
in return for supporting Bin Hammam
in next week's FIFA vote.

1067
01:07:38,930 --> 01:07:40,515
[Goldblatt] Blatter put the news out:

1068
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:44,895
Chuck Blazer is the honest whistleblower
in all of this.

1069
01:07:44,978 --> 01:07:48,607
[reporter] And here's the whistleblower,
American official Chuck Blazer.

1070
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:51,067
His dossier of evidence
will now be considered

1071
01:07:51,151 --> 01:07:54,321
by FIFA's ethics committee
on Sunday.

1072
01:07:54,404 --> 01:07:59,326
Crisis? What is the crisis?
We are not in a crisis.

1073
01:07:59,409 --> 01:08:01,912
We are only in some difficulties,

1074
01:08:01,995 --> 01:08:06,416
and these difficulties will be solved,
will be solved inside our family.

1075
01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:08,502
[applause]

1076
01:08:25,602 --> 01:08:27,270
[applause]

1077
01:08:30,649 --> 01:08:33,109
[reporter]
FIFA did its best to keep up the pretence,

1078
01:08:33,193 --> 01:08:37,948
taking trouble to count all 186 votes
which Blatter polled today.

1079
01:08:38,031 --> 01:08:40,158
But it didn't take too long,
and here's why.

1080
01:08:41,201 --> 01:08:43,036
And they should at least
have added a second box

1081
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:46,623
so that your options weren't
vote Blatter or go [bleep] yourself.

1082
01:08:47,541 --> 01:08:49,626
Given that the re-election of Sepp Blatter

1083
01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:52,629
has brought FIFA
even further into disrepute,

1084
01:08:52,712 --> 01:08:54,798
will he take this opportunity
to voice his support

1085
01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:56,800
for those who are calling
for the reforms we need

1086
01:08:56,883 --> 01:08:58,927
to finally show Mr Blatter the red card?

1087
01:08:59,010 --> 01:09:00,178
Hear! Hear!

1088
01:09:00,262 --> 01:09:04,891
They're furious in America,
you guys are furious in Australia,

1089
01:09:04,975 --> 01:09:08,186
the Dutch are also angry,
and slowly the temperature is going up.

1090
01:09:08,270 --> 01:09:10,397
At last it's going up in England

1091
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:16,736
over the way these people have made
fools of us and fools of you as well.

1092
01:09:16,820 --> 01:09:19,489
The election with just one candidate
was something of a farce,

1093
01:09:19,573 --> 01:09:22,367
but ultimately change
has got to come from within football.

1094
01:09:22,450 --> 01:09:26,413
[Oliver] Football itself
seemed incapable of dealing with it.

1095
01:09:26,496 --> 01:09:28,540
Still I hear sports reporters going,

1096
01:09:28,623 --> 01:09:31,418
"Well, I think President Blatter
wants to reform."

1097
01:09:31,501 --> 01:09:33,920
And you just think,
"What are they smoking?

1098
01:09:34,004 --> 01:09:37,424
Was Mr Capone gonna close down
the mafia in Chicago?

1099
01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:38,758
Can we get real about this?"

1100
01:09:38,842 --> 01:09:41,344
I think we should really do something,

1101
01:09:41,428 --> 01:09:46,099
but you should keep in mind
we are not so powerful.

1102
01:09:46,182 --> 01:09:49,144
[Andersen] I'm sorry to say this,
because I know that the US

1103
01:09:49,227 --> 01:09:53,481
is sometimes a little overeager
imposing its order in this world,

1104
01:09:53,565 --> 01:09:57,861
but the Europeans talk and discuss

1105
01:09:57,944 --> 01:10:01,615
and make recommendations
and resolutions, then guidelines.

1106
01:10:03,408 --> 01:10:10,040
But nothing in international sport
really changes until the cavalry comes.

1107
01:10:17,172 --> 01:10:19,507
[Jennings] The FBI came looking for me.

1108
01:10:20,759 --> 01:10:23,011
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
the G-men,

1109
01:10:23,094 --> 01:10:24,804
the one with the curly bits in their ears.

1110
01:10:24,888 --> 01:10:27,807
I saw all their business cards.
They were the real thing.

1111
01:10:29,184 --> 01:10:32,270
But they weren't coming to take me away.
They wanted to talk to me.

1112
01:10:32,354 --> 01:10:36,149
They wanted to know what I knew,
having spent years investigating FIFA.

1113
01:10:36,733 --> 01:10:40,362
I got hold of Chuck Blazer's reports
at Concacaf,

1114
01:10:40,445 --> 01:10:44,115
and it showed
that he was stealing so much money

1115
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,576
and he wasn't paying tax on it,
the naughty boy.

1116
01:10:48,161 --> 01:10:49,746
And I actually spoke to the feds and said,

1117
01:10:49,829 --> 01:10:53,375
"Look, I think I should maybe give these
to the Internal Revenue Service,

1118
01:10:53,458 --> 01:10:56,086
because here's tax evasion,
or I could give them to you."

1119
01:10:56,169 --> 01:10:59,798
And the fella said, "Mr Jennings,
I can't tell you what to do,

1120
01:10:59,881 --> 01:11:01,716
but I'd really like to see them."

1121
01:11:02,801 --> 01:11:05,053
So I emailed them over. They read them.

1122
01:11:05,136 --> 01:11:08,807
Within a few days, I think,
Chuck Blazer was lifted,

1123
01:11:08,890 --> 01:11:11,685
and he rolled over, as we say.

1124
01:11:11,768 --> 01:11:15,605
This is what they did. They went to him
and said, "Chuck, you are fired.

1125
01:11:15,689 --> 01:11:19,693
Either you work with us or you go to jail
for the rest of your life,

1126
01:11:19,776 --> 01:11:22,737
and you will be sentenced
and we will take away everything."

1127
01:11:26,282 --> 01:11:29,744
They gave him a recording device
in a key fob.

1128
01:11:31,663 --> 01:11:37,460
He also recorded a lot of telephone calls
to his apartment and offices.

1129
01:11:38,962 --> 01:11:43,216
He recorded a bunch of people
for several years.

1130
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,680
[Andersen]
He brings his key to the London Olympics.

1131
01:11:48,763 --> 01:11:51,975
He put it on the table,
talks to his friends.

1132
01:11:53,226 --> 01:11:57,230
"Do you remember the good old days
when we made this TV deal?

1133
01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:59,315
You got way too much out of it."

1134
01:12:00,233 --> 01:12:02,694
"No, I only got 10 million."

1135
01:12:13,955 --> 01:12:15,749
Chuck Blazer was the glue.

1136
01:12:18,334 --> 01:12:21,129
It was not what we would call a hard flip.

1137
01:12:21,212 --> 01:12:23,757
There really is no other option for him.

1138
01:12:24,716 --> 01:12:28,470
I feel betrayed. This shouldn't be…
This shouldn't happen.

1139
01:12:28,553 --> 01:12:31,598
But, I mean, decisions are taken to…

1140
01:12:31,681 --> 01:12:34,100
ultimately to punish those
who've transgressed.

1141
01:12:34,184 --> 01:12:36,144
[siren wails]

1142
01:12:36,227 --> 01:12:38,688
[Frankel] He's the one who gives us,

1143
01:12:38,772 --> 01:12:43,359
"That guy's dirty,
that guy's dirty, that guy's dirty."

1144
01:12:44,152 --> 01:12:46,738
In other words, a home run.

1145
01:12:46,821 --> 01:12:49,532
[cheering]

1146
01:12:49,616 --> 01:12:52,494
[newsreader] As FIFA officials gathered
for their annual meeting

1147
01:12:52,577 --> 01:12:56,164
at a luxury hotel in Zurich,
Swiss authorities made their move.

1148
01:12:56,247 --> 01:13:00,210
Shortly after breakfast,
they entered individual hotel rooms.

1149
01:13:01,211 --> 01:13:04,672
[newsreader 2] The biggest scandal ever
in the world's biggest sport

1150
01:13:04,756 --> 01:13:06,758
unfolded in dramatic fashion this morning

1151
01:13:06,841 --> 01:13:08,802
with arrests in Zurich, Switzerland.

1152
01:13:08,885 --> 01:13:10,678
[newsreader 3]
Swiss authorities were acting

1153
01:13:10,762 --> 01:13:12,931
at the request
of the US Attorney General's office.

1154
01:13:13,014 --> 01:13:16,518
[newsreader 4] Interpol issues red notices
for six FIFA executives

1155
01:13:16,601 --> 01:13:18,853
wanted by the US Attorney General.

1156
01:13:18,937 --> 01:13:20,730
I've been waiting for this
because, of course,

1157
01:13:20,814 --> 01:13:24,192
I've been talking to the FBI
for six years now,

1158
01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:27,195
and I gave them
a lot of the documentation.

1159
01:13:27,278 --> 01:13:30,990
[Oliver] It turned out a lot of the
bribery had gone through banks in the US,

1160
01:13:31,074 --> 01:13:33,868
the United States claiming jurisdiction.

1161
01:13:33,952 --> 01:13:37,747
[newsreader] Just hours after the arrest
of FIFA officials in Switzerland,

1162
01:13:37,831 --> 01:13:41,751
US prosecutors in New York
were laying out the case against them.

1163
01:13:41,835 --> 01:13:44,838
The 47-count indictment
against these individuals

1164
01:13:44,921 --> 01:13:48,133
includes charges
of racketeering, wire fraud

1165
01:13:48,216 --> 01:13:51,761
and money laundering conspiracies
spanning two decades.

1166
01:13:51,845 --> 01:13:54,556
What took so long? What the [bleep]?

1167
01:13:54,639 --> 01:14:00,353
[Frankel] What has been revealed so far
is a mafia-style crime syndicate.

1168
01:14:00,436 --> 01:14:02,021
[Oliver] When he read that indictment,

1169
01:14:02,105 --> 01:14:05,024
not only vindicated
the journalism we had done

1170
01:14:05,108 --> 01:14:07,610
in that there was a corruption problem,

1171
01:14:07,694 --> 01:14:13,700
but, beyond that, clearly the FBI agreed
that this was organised crime,

1172
01:14:13,783 --> 01:14:15,368
and that's what it was.

1173
01:14:15,451 --> 01:14:18,913
US prosecutors say
briefcases full of cash

1174
01:14:18,997 --> 01:14:23,418
decided media and marketing rights,
even the site of the World Cup.

1175
01:14:24,669 --> 01:14:29,674
What the American investigators found
was a system of corruption

1176
01:14:29,757 --> 01:14:33,595
that tainted almost everything
inside that organisation.

1177
01:14:33,678 --> 01:14:37,765
And as you go through the dozens of pages
around the FIFA indictments

1178
01:14:37,849 --> 01:14:40,351
and the eventual convictions
and the plea bargains,

1179
01:14:40,435 --> 01:14:42,770
you see that there was corruption
in the broadcast rights,

1180
01:14:42,854 --> 01:14:46,274
corruption in the ticketing rights,
corruption in the sponsorship,

1181
01:14:46,357 --> 01:14:48,985
there was corruption
in the venue hostings.

1182
01:14:49,068 --> 01:14:53,698
Almost everything that FIFA
could touch in a business way

1183
01:14:53,781 --> 01:14:55,575
had in some way been corrupted.

1184
01:14:55,658 --> 01:14:58,077
[newsreader]
The former vice president of FIFA

1185
01:14:58,161 --> 01:15:01,956
spent nearly seven million in bribes
to secure the World Cup for Qatar.

1186
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,794
Andrew Jennings, Thomas Kistner,
and Jens Weinreich were ecstatic.

1187
01:15:07,754 --> 01:15:12,884
For seven, eight, ten, fifteen years,
they had been told they were obsessed,

1188
01:15:12,967 --> 01:15:18,014
that they were negative, that they were
only out to make harm to sport.

1189
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,809
You can imagine
that having these facts confirmed,

1190
01:15:21,893 --> 01:15:24,187
it was way beyond their imagination.

1191
01:15:24,270 --> 01:15:26,814
I rang Andrew straightaway
and he was already packing

1192
01:15:26,898 --> 01:15:30,443
to get on a train to Zurich,
to enjoy the moment.

1193
01:15:30,526 --> 01:15:32,820
And he thoroughly deserved to.

1194
01:15:32,904 --> 01:15:35,323
That's what we do.
We're not here to be loved.

1195
01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:37,700
We're here to get the bloody story.

1196
01:15:38,618 --> 01:15:41,955
We are talking about
hundreds of millions of dollars.

1197
01:15:42,038 --> 01:15:46,209
So when you see pictures from around
the world of kids barefoot playing soccer,

1198
01:15:46,292 --> 01:15:48,169
know that they could have had boots,

1199
01:15:48,253 --> 01:15:51,714
they could have had good uniforms,
they could have had good pitches,

1200
01:15:51,798 --> 01:15:55,468
but the thieves running FIFA
took the money for themselves.

1201
01:15:57,053 --> 01:16:00,223
[Lynch] I want to make clear
that the defendants arrested this morning

1202
01:16:00,306 --> 01:16:03,601
will receive a fair trial
if they are brought to this country.

1203
01:16:03,685 --> 01:16:06,396
If you listen very carefully,
if you hold that microphone up,

1204
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,481
you might hear the sobbing.

1205
01:16:15,655 --> 01:16:19,993
When they sent me to prison yesterday,
they thought they would have broken me.

1206
01:16:20,076 --> 01:16:21,995
On the other hand,
they have made me stronger.

1207
01:16:22,078 --> 01:16:25,665
The Americans are trying
to put the hurt on FIFA

1208
01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:27,333
since they did not get the World Cup.

1209
01:16:28,626 --> 01:16:32,338
[reporter] A source close
to the US investigation has told the BBC

1210
01:16:32,422 --> 01:16:36,676
they're working through 75 bank accounts
connected to Jack Warner

1211
01:16:36,759 --> 01:16:40,888
but admit some of FIFA's missing millions
may never be found.

1212
01:16:40,972 --> 01:16:47,812
And we still do not know today
where 70% of the bribes ended up.

1213
01:16:53,568 --> 01:16:55,611
[woman]
One citizen brings us into disrepute,

1214
01:16:55,695 --> 01:16:58,072
has brought us into shame and humiliation.

1215
01:16:58,156 --> 01:16:59,490
One citizen.

1216
01:16:59,574 --> 01:17:04,495
He should do all that he can
to cooperate with the US authorities.

1217
01:17:04,579 --> 01:17:07,248
[Warner] The member asked me to cooperate
with the US authorities,

1218
01:17:07,332 --> 01:17:10,001
but, Mr Speaker,
I tell this house and this country,

1219
01:17:10,084 --> 01:17:13,671
I tell you today
that I will have the last laugh.

1220
01:17:13,755 --> 01:17:16,966
[newsreader] Of the 24 members
on the executive committee,

1221
01:17:17,050 --> 01:17:21,971
14 have been indicted or implicated
in the corruption scandal.

1222
01:17:22,055 --> 01:17:24,223
Another three have retired,

1223
01:17:24,307 --> 01:17:28,686
leaving just seven of the original group
on the current executive committee.

1224
01:17:30,355 --> 01:17:33,816
The other part of the focus obviously
is Sepp Blatter himself, the president.

1225
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:36,736
Now, he's up for re-election on Friday.

1226
01:17:36,819 --> 01:17:40,615
It seems inconceivable
that he could possibly be re-elected.

1227
01:17:40,698 --> 01:17:41,741
Do you think he could be?

1228
01:17:41,824 --> 01:17:47,246
If it was a normal organisation,
I would say no, but FIFA's not normal.

1229
01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:49,082
FIFA is not corrupt.

1230
01:17:49,165 --> 01:17:50,833
- Definitely not.
- [applause]

1231
01:17:53,461 --> 01:17:54,587
[man] It's a disgrace!

1232
01:17:59,384 --> 01:18:01,803
You should be banned
from football for years!

1233
01:18:01,886 --> 01:18:04,514
Not a lot of good things have happened
with Sepp Blatter as president.

1234
01:18:04,597 --> 01:18:06,933
[in Portuguese]
They all need to go to prison!

1235
01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:11,479
As a football fan and loving the game,
it's kind of a slap in the face.

1236
01:18:11,562 --> 01:18:13,731
Sepp Blatter definitely needs
to step down.

1237
01:18:15,733 --> 01:18:20,863
What really broke the straw
was when he said, "I'm not leaving."

1238
01:18:20,947 --> 01:18:23,491
[newsreader] Blatter has not been indicted
and is favoured to win

1239
01:18:23,574 --> 01:18:25,326
an unprecedented fifth term tomorrow,

1240
01:18:25,410 --> 01:18:29,122
extending his 17-year reign
and his reputation as a survivor.

1241
01:18:29,205 --> 01:18:31,416
In the past,
when there's been controversies,

1242
01:18:31,499 --> 01:18:34,419
when there's been investigations,
many in FIFA have fallen.

1243
01:18:34,502 --> 01:18:36,712
Those that have fallen
conveniently are his enemies.

1244
01:18:36,796 --> 01:18:38,464
It's like a Stalinist purge.

1245
01:18:38,548 --> 01:18:41,843
[newsreader] Coming to Blatter's defence
today, Russian President Vladimir Putin.

1246
01:18:41,926 --> 01:18:43,928
[Putin speaks Russian]

1247
01:18:44,011 --> 01:18:46,013
[newsreader]
Accusing US authorities of meddling

1248
01:18:46,097 --> 01:18:50,101
and trying to wrestle away
Russia's hosting the 2018 World Cup.

1249
01:18:50,184 --> 01:18:52,979
[interpreter] It's just another attempt
to extend their jurisdiction

1250
01:18:53,062 --> 01:18:54,063
to other countries.

1251
01:18:55,815 --> 01:19:00,027
It's apparent from recent news reports
that they'd benefit

1252
01:19:00,111 --> 01:19:01,237
from some new leadership,

1253
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,282
but obviously those kinds of decisions
will have to be made

1254
01:19:04,365 --> 01:19:06,200
by the members of the organisation.

1255
01:19:06,284 --> 01:19:12,874
I am still the president until Friday,
let's say six o'clock in the afternoon.

1256
01:19:12,957 --> 01:19:18,796
[Goldblatt] Blatter's performance in the
face of this is absolutely extraordinary.

1257
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,216
He is able to get up
in front of the congress and say,

1258
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:26,971
"I am the man to clean out the stables.
I'm the man to vote for."

1259
01:19:27,054 --> 01:19:32,935
I will be in command
of this boat called FIFA,

1260
01:19:33,019 --> 01:19:35,354
and we will bring it back.

1261
01:19:35,438 --> 01:19:38,357
We will bring it back offshore.

1262
01:19:39,192 --> 01:19:44,363
[Andersen]
You would think that the revelation,

1263
01:19:44,447 --> 01:19:50,244
the biggest systemic corruption scandal
ever in international sport,

1264
01:19:50,328 --> 01:19:52,079
would put an end to Sepp Blatter.

1265
01:19:53,748 --> 01:19:55,625
But, no, not at all.

1266
01:19:55,708 --> 01:19:58,711
Let's go, FIFA. Let's go, FIFA. Thank you.

1267
01:19:58,794 --> 01:20:01,881
Sepp Blatter has won a fifth term
as president.

1268
01:20:01,964 --> 01:20:06,552
Come on! Under FIFA system,
leadership never changes.

1269
01:20:06,636 --> 01:20:08,763
Their elections are such a joke.

1270
01:20:10,181 --> 01:20:14,018
[Goldblatt] There are lots of people that
Blatter had done a lot of favours for,

1271
01:20:14,101 --> 01:20:19,815
and that was repaid many times over
at the 2015 congress.

1272
01:20:19,899 --> 01:20:23,361
The majority of this congress
don't want a change,

1273
01:20:23,444 --> 01:20:28,449
so that says a lot about the people
who voted this way.

1274
01:20:29,450 --> 01:20:32,703
[man] Are you concerned at some stage
you might be arrested?

1275
01:20:32,787 --> 01:20:35,289
Arrested for what?

1276
01:20:36,249 --> 01:20:37,875
Next question.

1277
01:20:39,252 --> 01:20:42,129
[Goldblatt] I am sure over that weekend

1278
01:20:42,213 --> 01:20:47,343
that Blatter mentally went through
the filing cabinet in his head.

1279
01:20:47,426 --> 01:20:51,764
If the FBI and the American legal system
are this deep,

1280
01:20:51,847 --> 01:20:54,183
what are the documents they're gonna see?

1281
01:20:54,267 --> 01:20:55,810
Where is my name on it,

1282
01:20:55,893 --> 01:20:59,438
and if my name's not on it,
can it be traced back to me?

1283
01:20:59,522 --> 01:21:01,732
[woman] Blatter, Blatter, have some shame!

1284
01:21:01,816 --> 01:21:04,360
[protestors]
Blatter, Blatter, have some shame.

1285
01:21:04,443 --> 01:21:06,237
Sepp Blatter, step down!

1286
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,864
[woman] Sepp Blatter, step down!

1287
01:21:08,948 --> 01:21:14,996
I am doing my job, and I will do it
until the last day of my mandate.

1288
01:21:15,079 --> 01:21:16,914
[reporter] He's in denial, isn't he?

1289
01:21:16,998 --> 01:21:19,584
He can't accept that the whole world
don't want him there.

1290
01:21:19,667 --> 01:21:24,088
Frankly what we've seen is the ugly side
of the beautiful game, and he should go.

1291
01:21:24,171 --> 01:21:27,216
All the arrests in the world
are gonna change nothing

1292
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:29,093
as long as Blatter is still there.

1293
01:21:29,176 --> 01:21:34,390
We have a situation where Sepp Blatter,
is a bit like Monty Python's Black Knight.

1294
01:21:34,473 --> 01:21:38,519
There's blood spurting everywhere
and he just thinks it's a flesh wound.

1295
01:21:38,603 --> 01:21:40,479
[protestor] Fuck off, Blatter!

1296
01:21:40,563 --> 01:21:44,525
I cannot monitor everyone all of the time.

1297
01:21:44,609 --> 01:21:47,069
He believes he is FIFA, still.

1298
01:21:47,153 --> 01:21:50,239
He can't believe
that his creature has turned upon him.

1299
01:21:50,323 --> 01:21:54,035
It's like Dr Frankenstein
being beaten to death by his own monster.

1300
01:21:55,369 --> 01:22:00,875
[Blatter] I'm now 40 years in FIFA,
17 years the president of FIFA.

1301
01:22:01,834 --> 01:22:03,878
This is my manifesto.

1302
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:07,673
- [Black Knight] I'm invincible!
- Right!

1303
01:22:15,556 --> 01:22:19,101
[newsreader] The shock announcement came
just days after Blatter was re-elected

1304
01:22:19,185 --> 01:22:20,269
as FIFA president.

1305
01:22:20,353 --> 01:22:26,025
The man who ruled FIFA with an iron grip
for 17 years, Sepp Blatter, has resigned.

1306
01:22:26,859 --> 01:22:30,571
[in French] This is why I will call
an extraordinary congress

1307
01:22:30,655 --> 01:22:34,533
and dispose of my function.

1308
01:22:38,829 --> 01:22:40,247
[Goldblatt] It was extraordinary.

1309
01:22:40,331 --> 01:22:44,293
On the Monday morning, in one of
the most low-key press conferences,

1310
01:22:44,377 --> 01:22:46,671
he said, "I'm gonna resign."

1311
01:22:52,551 --> 01:22:55,888
It's not very hard to clean up football.
It's very easy, actually.

1312
01:22:55,971 --> 01:22:59,266
You just sack 'em all. You're gone. Bye!

1313
01:22:59,350 --> 01:23:01,227
This is just the beginning.

1314
01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:03,688
Have you got it, boys?
It's just the beginning!

1315
01:23:03,771 --> 01:23:07,108
[echoes] Beginning, beginning,
beginning, beginning…

1316
01:23:07,191 --> 01:23:12,113
[man] With the announcement that
FIFA President Blatter plans to step down,

1317
01:23:12,196 --> 01:23:14,532
now is the time
for the United States to engage

1318
01:23:14,615 --> 01:23:18,202
and determine how we can encourage
meaningful reforms.

1319
01:23:18,285 --> 01:23:20,913
You're our witness
from outside the United States.

1320
01:23:20,996 --> 01:23:26,794
What influence do you think that
America has in regard to reforming FIFA?

1321
01:23:26,877 --> 01:23:29,630
What America can do is engage

1322
01:23:29,714 --> 01:23:32,967
with clean, decent football associations
around the world,

1323
01:23:33,050 --> 01:23:36,303
create a new organisation
based in another land

1324
01:23:36,387 --> 01:23:39,181
and invite sponsors and TV networks
to go with them.

1325
01:23:39,265 --> 01:23:43,519
Mr Jennings, would you agree
that American corporate sponsors

1326
01:23:43,602 --> 01:23:50,568
like Nike, McDonald's, Visa and Coca-Cola
have been enablers?

1327
01:23:50,651 --> 01:23:52,987
Oh, yes, the sponsors have said,

1328
01:23:53,070 --> 01:23:56,115
"Oh, well, we only support the World Cup.
We don't support FIFA."

1329
01:23:56,198 --> 01:23:58,159
Well, isn't that tough and brave of them?

1330
01:23:58,242 --> 01:24:01,203
It only took the FBI and the IRS
a few weeks

1331
01:24:01,287 --> 01:24:03,372
to check out the information
that I gave them.

1332
01:24:03,456 --> 01:24:05,124
They arrested Chuck Blazer,

1333
01:24:05,207 --> 01:24:09,670
he immediately turned informant,
and FIFA has imploded.

1334
01:24:09,754 --> 01:24:12,548
You know, once upon a time,
FIFA officials walked down the street

1335
01:24:12,631 --> 01:24:17,178
with the FIFA blazer, the logo,
"I'm from FIFA, I'm important."

1336
01:24:17,261 --> 01:24:21,098
Who would do that now?
Who would dare do that now?

1337
01:24:21,182 --> 01:24:22,183
None of them.

1338
01:24:23,559 --> 01:24:26,645
- [man] This hearing is now adjourned.
- Where can we all sit and make jokes?

1339
01:24:26,729 --> 01:24:29,398
- For the serious stuff.
- Let's do that in the back.

1340
01:24:29,482 --> 01:24:33,986
- And, uh, I'd love a glass of water.
- Yeah, absolutely, of course.

1341
01:24:34,069 --> 01:24:36,071
[hums]

1342
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:40,367
[Oliver] As I understand it,
they were getting up to go in the morning,

1343
01:24:40,451 --> 01:24:41,952
start filming.

1344
01:24:42,036 --> 01:24:44,663
I get a call from my colleague.
Andrew's in hospital.

1345
01:24:44,747 --> 01:24:46,040
And I said, "What's happened?"

1346
01:24:46,123 --> 01:24:50,836
And he said, "Well, we got up
this morning, I was waiting in the lobby,

1347
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,923
Andrew walked in
and he collapsed in the hotel lobby."

1348
01:25:06,727 --> 01:25:08,729
We were still making the film.

1349
01:25:10,356 --> 01:25:14,902
And when he was well enough,
we got him flown back to the UK.

1350
01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:24,745
Then it became a question of
what are we gonna do with the film?

1351
01:25:25,788 --> 01:25:28,165
As soon as I could speak to him,
it was clear he wanted…

1352
01:25:28,249 --> 01:25:30,626
"Yes, I want the film done.
I want it finished."

1353
01:25:33,629 --> 01:25:38,133
[Jennings] Sepp Blatter declined
to respond to our questions,

1354
01:25:38,217 --> 01:25:41,345
as did most of his officials.

1355
01:25:41,428 --> 01:25:46,600
Jack Warner told us
he rejected all our allegations

1356
01:25:46,684 --> 01:25:49,478
and is fighting extradition to the US.

1357
01:25:50,729 --> 01:25:55,025
But Jack's already been banned
from the game for life.

1358
01:25:55,693 --> 01:25:59,572
[Oliver] As with most stroke victims,
it affected his ability to talk.

1359
01:25:59,655 --> 01:26:02,783
Unfortunately one letter
he had a real problem with was F,

1360
01:26:02,867 --> 01:26:06,370
which apparently led
to a lot of other words beginning with F.

1361
01:26:06,453 --> 01:26:10,916
But he did it, which was an amazing
tribute to his dedication to his job.

1362
01:26:12,418 --> 01:26:14,503
What's been driving you all these years,

1363
01:26:14,587 --> 01:26:18,090
despite the number of…
of encounters you've had

1364
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:20,134
and been ignored or told to go away?

1365
01:26:20,217 --> 01:26:22,303
What's kept you going?

1366
01:26:22,386 --> 01:26:24,179
It's a good story.

1367
01:26:24,263 --> 01:26:27,641
I shall be very interested
to see in February,

1368
01:26:27,725 --> 01:26:30,519
when apparently they claim

1369
01:26:30,603 --> 01:26:33,647
they're going to hold an election
for the next president,

1370
01:26:33,731 --> 01:26:35,441
who is turning up.

1371
01:26:35,524 --> 01:26:37,526
[interviewer]
You see this as a cathartic moment?

1372
01:26:37,610 --> 01:26:40,404
Or is that still yet to come
from your perspective?

1373
01:26:40,487 --> 01:26:42,448
[Jennings] Oh, it's still yet to come.

1374
01:26:42,531 --> 01:26:47,077
Listen, FIFA's got a long way to fall
before it picks up.

1375
01:26:47,161 --> 01:26:50,456
So, no, it's been fun.
We'll get to the end.

1376
01:26:59,757 --> 01:27:01,675
[Mersiades]
I'm a fairly optimistic person,

1377
01:27:01,759 --> 01:27:05,137
so I always like to think
that something can change.

1378
01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:09,934
[announcer] Total number of valid votes
for Gianni Infantino: 115.

1379
01:27:12,019 --> 01:27:15,648
The point I always return to is
when it comes to culture versus process,

1380
01:27:15,731 --> 01:27:17,274
culture wins every time.

1381
01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:21,695
And in the changes we've seen in FIFA
since 2016,

1382
01:27:21,779 --> 01:27:23,280
I don't see the culture changing.

1383
01:27:23,364 --> 01:27:27,409
And we will restore the image of FIFA
and the respect of FIFA,

1384
01:27:27,493 --> 01:27:30,663
and everyone in the world will applaud us
and will applaud all of you.

1385
01:27:32,790 --> 01:27:35,000
[Mersiades]
If you look at Andrew Jenning's words,

1386
01:27:35,084 --> 01:27:37,336
that this is a mafia-style organisation,

1387
01:27:37,419 --> 01:27:40,214
you can just take people
out of the positions

1388
01:27:40,297 --> 01:27:44,176
and someone else will drop in
and basically undertake the same role.

1389
01:27:44,259 --> 01:27:49,723
The reforms need to be implemented now.
They need to be implemented from day one.

1390
01:27:49,807 --> 01:27:54,228
In my opinion, what has happened at FIFA
is a creation of a lie machine,

1391
01:27:54,311 --> 01:27:56,981
a creation of a media manipulation scene.

1392
01:27:57,064 --> 01:28:00,734
Very similar to the tobacco industry
strategy in the 1980s.

1393
01:28:01,485 --> 01:28:06,782
We created recently FIFA+, which is
a great streaming platform as well.

1394
01:28:06,865 --> 01:28:09,118
The scary thought here is that FIFA

1395
01:28:09,201 --> 01:28:13,956
will actually be putting out
its own brand of fake news

1396
01:28:14,039 --> 01:28:16,375
and not try to get reforms done.

1397
01:28:16,458 --> 01:28:21,130
[Goldblatt] FIFA had the movie made,
"United Passions", about its own history.

1398
01:28:21,213 --> 01:28:24,091
- All right, Sophie?
- Morning, Mr Blatter.

1399
01:28:24,174 --> 01:28:28,137
- We are asking you to resign.
- I refuse.

1400
01:28:29,596 --> 01:28:34,059
This was commissioned by Sepp Blatter
about Sepp Blatter, United Passions.

1401
01:28:34,143 --> 01:28:36,854
[Hill] That media manufacturer,

1402
01:28:36,937 --> 01:28:40,482
that campaign
where you're creating quote machines,

1403
01:28:40,566 --> 01:28:45,446
you're creating sources and institutions
that can divert the attention,

1404
01:28:46,905 --> 01:28:51,160
the denial machine was built in that way.

1405
01:28:51,243 --> 01:28:54,371
[Infantino] When it comes to the situation
in Qatar in particular,

1406
01:28:54,455 --> 01:28:55,998
I think we need to be fair there as well

1407
01:28:56,081 --> 01:29:01,879
and admit that a lot of progress
has happened.

1408
01:29:04,089 --> 01:29:06,633
[Szymanski] It's really, really hard
to separate out in many cases

1409
01:29:06,717 --> 01:29:07,926
what's true from what's false.

1410
01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:11,263
It's really very easy
to be seeing things online,

1411
01:29:11,346 --> 01:29:13,515
share them without checking
that they are true,

1412
01:29:13,599 --> 01:29:16,769
and then, you know, you may have ended up
sharing something false.

1413
01:29:18,353 --> 01:29:20,481
But there are also outfits
that are working very hard

1414
01:29:20,564 --> 01:29:24,234
to separate out the false information
from what is true.

1415
01:29:24,860 --> 01:29:26,570
The ability of FIFA

1416
01:29:26,653 --> 01:29:31,075
to turn its back on political issues
may be changing

1417
01:29:31,158 --> 01:29:36,747
in the light of changes in technology
and the emergence of social media.

1418
01:29:38,582 --> 01:29:41,543
So it seems to me that smartphones
in many ways

1419
01:29:41,627 --> 01:29:45,589
opened up the political
Pandora's box, as it were,

1420
01:29:45,672 --> 01:29:50,719
and I think it's going to prove very hard
for them to close that in the future.

1421
01:29:50,803 --> 01:29:54,515
It's hard to hide wrongness now, isn't it?

1422
01:29:54,598 --> 01:29:59,853
It's really difficult, because people
will find you and people will expose you.

1423
01:30:05,067 --> 01:30:09,238
Some are referring to the conflict
in Ukraine as the first TikTok war.

1424
01:30:09,321 --> 01:30:11,865
[Szymanski]
With Ukraine, because of social media,

1425
01:30:11,949 --> 01:30:14,243
we saw immediately
what the Russians were doing.

1426
01:30:14,326 --> 01:30:17,663
Their lies were immediately exposed
for what they were

1427
01:30:17,746 --> 01:30:19,998
and the rest of the world was outraged.

1428
01:30:20,958 --> 01:30:25,379
As in all wars on all continents,
innocent people are being killed

1429
01:30:25,462 --> 01:30:27,506
in meaningless fights for power.

1430
01:30:28,465 --> 01:30:34,138
Initially, FIFA hesitated.
International pressure forced real action.

1431
01:30:34,221 --> 01:30:37,141
FIFA and UEFA have suspended
all Russian teams

1432
01:30:37,224 --> 01:30:41,061
from global competitions
until further notice.

1433
01:30:41,145 --> 01:30:44,648
[woman] I fear our stadiums
will be empty in the future

1434
01:30:44,731 --> 01:30:49,319
if we overlook the urgency
of the current moment.

1435
01:30:49,403 --> 01:30:52,447
[Goldblatt] This notion
of sport and politics not mixing

1436
01:30:52,531 --> 01:30:56,201
has just worn precariously thin.

1437
01:30:57,744 --> 01:30:59,997
[Jennings]
All you can do in these circumstances

1438
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,916
is stand up for what you think is right.

1439
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,210
But you have to do it.
Democracy is of the people.

1440
01:31:05,294 --> 01:31:07,588
[reporter] They say if you wanna help,
don't just send food,

1441
01:31:07,671 --> 01:31:08,964
because they have a lot of things.

1442
01:31:09,047 --> 01:31:12,926
This is one of our friends we've been
playing soccer with all morning.

1443
01:31:13,010 --> 01:31:17,806
[Wright Thompson] Soccer, the game,
is the most democratic thing in the world.

1444
01:31:18,974 --> 01:31:22,477
And FIFA more and more

1445
01:31:22,561 --> 01:31:27,191
seems to only appeal
to countries run by autocrats.

1446
01:31:29,693 --> 01:31:31,778
[Szymanski]
The way FIFA is run is in some ways

1447
01:31:31,862 --> 01:31:34,531
a reflection of the way we run our planet.

1448
01:31:34,615 --> 01:31:40,162
If we could do that well, if we could do
it in a way that would set a good example,

1449
01:31:40,245 --> 01:31:44,666
that might actually give people more
optimism more than any other world leader.

1450
01:31:45,542 --> 01:31:48,045
[Wright Thompson] Andrew did this
for 20 years with these people.

1451
01:31:48,128 --> 01:31:53,967
The fact that this fight goes on
without him is beautiful

1452
01:31:54,051 --> 01:31:56,553
and a giant "fuck you" to people in power

1453
01:31:56,637 --> 01:32:00,015
who think
that they don't answer to anyone,

1454
01:32:00,098 --> 01:32:05,687
because there's always an Andrew Jennings
out there stacking up paper

1455
01:32:05,771 --> 01:32:08,982
that one day will be your epitaph.

1456
01:32:11,485 --> 01:32:14,488
[upbeat music]

1457
01:32:20,535 --> 01:32:23,538
[singing in Portuguese]

1458
01:32:59,157 --> 01:33:01,868
[newsreader]
Today Blatter insisted that he is clean.

1459
01:33:03,036 --> 01:33:08,292
I am not speaking about FIFA.
I am not speaking about corruption.

1460
01:33:08,375 --> 01:33:12,170
I am speaking about me.
Voilà. That's it.

1461
01:33:12,254 --> 01:33:14,256
And I have done nothing wrong.

1462
01:33:14,339 --> 01:33:16,842
[♪ The Black Keys:
"For The Love Of Money"]

1463
01:33:16,925 --> 01:33:20,262
♪ For the love of money ♪

1464
01:33:20,345 --> 01:33:24,474
♪ We would do most anything ♪

1465
01:33:25,017 --> 01:33:26,768
♪ Anything ♪

1466
01:33:26,852 --> 01:33:30,188
♪ For a taste of honey ♪

1467
01:33:30,272 --> 01:33:34,901
♪ We would do it all again ♪

1468
01:33:34,985 --> 01:33:37,571
♪ All again, yeah ♪

1469
01:33:38,822 --> 01:33:41,491
♪ We got tall, tall buildings ♪

1470
01:33:41,575 --> 01:33:44,536
♪ We got streets of gold ♪

1471
01:33:45,037 --> 01:33:49,291
♪ Cheats and liars
Our friends get old ♪

1472
01:33:50,083 --> 01:33:54,588
♪ Bright, bright diamonds
that shine like shame ♪

1473
01:33:55,005 --> 01:33:58,967
♪ Green, green acres
and God's good name ♪

1474
01:33:59,051 --> 01:34:02,346
♪ For the love of money ♪

1475
01:34:02,429 --> 01:34:07,017
♪ We would sell our very souls ♪

1476
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:09,019
♪ Goodness knows ♪

1477
01:34:09,102 --> 01:34:12,064
♪ Start acting funny ♪

1478
01:34:12,147 --> 01:34:16,651
♪ Do anything that we're told ♪

1479
01:34:16,735 --> 01:34:19,446
♪ That we're told, yeah ♪

1480
01:34:20,739 --> 01:34:26,536
♪ We got fools with britches
getting fat on lies ♪

1481
01:34:27,037 --> 01:34:31,625
♪ Nothing but trouble here in paradise ♪

1482
01:34:32,167 --> 01:34:36,088
♪ Deal's in the making
You just name your price ♪

1483
01:34:36,171 --> 01:34:41,760
♪ If your soul's for sale
You just name your vice ♪

1484
01:34:41,843 --> 01:34:47,641
♪ Don't need to tell you
that money can buy you love ♪

1485
01:34:49,393 --> 01:34:50,477
♪ Love ♪

1486
01:34:51,895 --> 01:34:59,486
♪ Once you get money
Then you'll never have enough ♪

1487
01:34:59,569 --> 01:35:01,696
♪ No ♪

1488
01:35:06,284 --> 01:35:09,663
♪ For the love of money ♪

1489
01:35:09,746 --> 01:35:13,834
♪ We will climb the highest hill ♪

1490
01:35:14,501 --> 01:35:16,128
♪ Yes, we will ♪

1491
01:35:16,211 --> 01:35:19,506
♪ Turn your back on Buddy ♪

1492
01:35:19,589 --> 01:35:24,261
♪ For a greenback dollar bill ♪

1493
01:35:24,344 --> 01:35:26,972
♪ Dollar bill, yeah ♪

1494
01:35:36,898 --> 01:35:39,359
♪ Love of money ♪

1495
01:35:39,443 --> 01:35:42,404
♪ Love of money, yeah ♪

1496
01:35:46,825 --> 01:35:49,202
♪ Love of money ♪

1497
01:35:49,286 --> 01:35:52,372
♪ Love of money, yeah ♪

1498
01:35:56,710 --> 01:35:59,129
♪ Love of money ♪

1499
01:35:59,212 --> 01:36:02,257
♪ Love of money, yeah ♪

1500
01:36:06,595 --> 01:36:09,055
♪ Love of money ♪

1501
01:36:09,139 --> 01:36:12,142
♪ Love of money, yeah ♪

1502
01:36:12,225 --> 01:36:14,019
SUBTITLING: Dubbing Brothers

1503
01:36:16,521 --> 01:36:19,024
♪ Love of money ♪

1504
01:36:19,107 --> 01:36:22,235
♪ Love of money, yeah ♪