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Ten songs in a row
and a better mix of music

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on the official radio station
of summer.

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C'etait Soul II Soul, Keep on
Moving, en souvenir de CKMF.

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C'etait Soul II Soul, Keep on
Moving, en souvenir de CKMF.

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It is 24 degrees in Montreal.

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I'm John Moore and this is a 980
Hits information update.

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Twist and Shout from the Beatles,
97.7 FM in Montreal, Good Morning!

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Twist and Shout from the Beatles,
97.7 FM in Montreal, Good Morning!

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What a morning!

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Sidney Leithman died
early this morning

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in his luxury imported convertible
on his way to a health club

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in his luxury imported convertible
on his way to a health club

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in this middle-class
Montreal suburb.

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Police believe an accomplice in
another car blocked Leithman's path

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while the assassin, a professional,

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while the assassin, a professional,

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carefully fired six bullets
into the sitting target.

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Sidney Leithman was the most
successful criminal lawyer

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Sidney Leithman was the most
successful criminal lawyer

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in the city.

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He was really at the top
of his game.

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He loved what he did.
He loved to perform in court.

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He loved what he did.
He loved to perform in court.

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I'd rather be pleading,
than waiting for a verdict.

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Defence lawyers tended
to stick to one mob.

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He represented the Mafia,

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He represented the Mafia,

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the Columbians.
And he had the West End Gang.

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All of these organised crime
groups battled to control

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All of these organised crime
groups battled to control

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the cocaine industry in Montreal.

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By then, we should have,
hopefully,

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some idea of the nature of
the proof, if any.

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some idea of the nature of
the proof, if any.

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The killing of Sidney Leithman
was not just the death

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of Sidney Leithman, it gave life
to a whole new story.

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When the police start going through
Sidney's clothing,

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in one of his pockets they find
a hand-written phone number.

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in one of his pockets they find
a hand-written phone number.

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That phone number was the key that
opened the door to the power

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of the drug trade and the massive
corruption that it had created.

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of the drug trade and the massive
corruption that it had created.

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Montreal is a very sexy,
appealing, seductive city.

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It became perhaps the most
criminal city in North America.

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It became perhaps the most
criminal city in North America.

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A lot of us became acquainted with
the criminal element,

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the criminal character of Montreal
at a very early age.

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the criminal character of Montreal
at a very early age.

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You're a kid and you're going to
the candy store

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and up there is Allo Police,
a weekly crime tabloid.

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and up there is Allo Police,
a weekly crime tabloid.

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What other city has
a weekly crime tabloid?

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Well, in fact, Montreal had two
weekly crime tabloids!

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Well, in fact, Montreal had two
weekly crime tabloids!

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And in Montreal,
criminals can be heroes.

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And in Montreal,
criminals can be heroes.

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When I was a kid,
my father was a city columnist for

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The Montreal Star
and he covered the waterfront.

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The Montreal Star
and he covered the waterfront.

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I remember one time he had a desk at
home and there were all these

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mugshots of the West End Gang.

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So I was fascinated by
these mugshots.

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The West End Gang was legendary.

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Dunie Ryan was a very, very, very
sharp criminal operator.

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Dunie Ryan was a very, very, very
sharp criminal operator.

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Very intelligent guy.
He's at the top.

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Allan Ross was Dunie Ryan's
right hand man.

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He was considered
a nasty piece of work.

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He was considered
a nasty piece of work.

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Gerry Matticks was like a toll
booth through the Port.

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He could get your big shipment of
cocaine through

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He could get your big shipment of
cocaine through

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but that came with a price.

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The West End Gang is great because
it's actually not a gang,

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The West End Gang is great because
it's actually not a gang,

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it's a network of people.
It's very flexible.

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You also don't give the police
a structure to look at.

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...26 tonnes found at
the port of Montreal.

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On board 200 million
dollars of pure cocaine.

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On board 200 million
dollars of pure cocaine.

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The West End Gang was
an extraordinary surprise to us.

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You've got small time hoods that
rose up and had the initiative

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You've got small time hoods that
rose up and had the initiative

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to go down and meet personally with
Colombian Cartel guys

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- that's ambition,
that's gutsy too.

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- that's ambition,
that's gutsy too.

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Those are dangerous people.

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They became an organisation
with global power,

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an organisation that imports
tons and tons of cocaine

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an organisation that imports
tons and tons of cocaine

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into the United States
and into Canada.

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Montreal had pretty solid divides
with its various gangs.

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Montreal had pretty solid divides
with its various gangs.

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On the East end, you would have
the French Canadian Gangs.

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In the North End you had
the Italian Mafia.

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And in the West, you had
the West End Gang -

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the Irish neighbourhood gangsters.

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the Irish neighbourhood gangsters.

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When I was a kid, the West End
neighbourhood was a perfect

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breeding ground for that gang
to rise up there.

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breeding ground for that gang
to rise up there.

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Everybody knew someone,
a family member, a close friend,

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who was in some way absolutely
connected to the West End Gang.

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who was in some way absolutely
connected to the West End Gang.

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When my dad was in his early 30s
he went into the police department,

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but then he saw
a side that he didn't like,

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but then he saw
a side that he didn't like,

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that he realised they weren't
necessarily the good guys.

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And the gangs were the bad guys.

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So he was disillusioned
and he eventually left.

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Later on as a kid, I heard him being
referred to as "the enforcer"

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and I asked my mother about it and
said "Mom, what does that mean?"

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and she just pretended
she didn't hear me

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and she just pretended
she didn't hear me

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and never did answer the question.

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The members of the West End Gang,
they grew up poor. All of them.

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And it was a hardscrabble life.

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And it was a hardscrabble life.

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They were tough, Irish,
working-class kids

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who grew up with similar backgrounds

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who grew up with similar backgrounds

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and that made them
very tough criminals.

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How old were you when you
robbed your first bank?

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Fourteen.

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Fourteen?
Yeah.

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Fourteen?
Yeah.

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Pulling out the gun,
jumping up on the counter

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doing like they do in the movies,
you know,

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and wanting the money
and they could see it.

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and wanting the money
and they could see it.

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Welcome to Montreal!

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It's just another normal day in
the bank robbery capital

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It's just another normal day in
the bank robbery capital

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of North America.

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The West End Gang had
the best safe crackers,

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had the best armed robbery guys.

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had the best armed robbery guys.

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This is one of about 800 bank
holdups in the city every year.

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Montreal has more of these little
scenes than any other city

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on this continent,

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on this continent,

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more than Chicago,
more than Los Angeles,

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more even than New York.

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They got all the bases covered.

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They got locksmiths,
they got communications guys

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They got locksmiths,
they got communications guys

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and electricians and truck drivers,
inside guys to do a job.

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and electricians and truck drivers,
inside guys to do a job.

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Bank robberies
in the sixties and seventies,

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it was like going to bingo.
It was super popular.

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it was like going to bingo.
It was super popular.

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It was an easy, quick way
to get some money.

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One of my uncles, "Uncle Richard"
was a huge bank robber at the time

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One of my uncles, "Uncle Richard"
was a huge bank robber at the time

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and was considered a handsome,

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smiling guy because he was
always very polite.

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He used to say
there is no point in scaring them.

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He used to say
there is no point in scaring them.

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He would be very polite about it.

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Wells Fargo guards with revolvers
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the Sun life building.

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According to the Police,

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According to the Police,

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at a quarter to 12 Wells Fargo men
entered the building...

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We used to rob a minimum of three
banks a week, some twice.

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We used to rob a minimum of three
banks a week, some twice.

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That's how open they were.

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Everybody was robbing banks,
it was in and out,

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Everybody was robbing banks,
it was in and out,

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it was quick, it was easy.

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Like, one manager knew
it was me again!

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Back in those days,
things were really, really happening

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Back in those days,
things were really, really happening

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in Montreal. You say to yourself:
"Imagine this happening today?"

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It was a crazy, crazy time.
Everybody was a bank robber.

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It was a crazy, crazy time.
Everybody was a bank robber.

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Dunie Ryan was a kind of punk.

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By the time he was 19,

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By the time he was 19,

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he had already been in juvenile
detention homes a couple of times.

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He was well immersed in that life.
He was a thief.

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He was well immersed in that life.
He was a thief.

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He was robbing jewellery stores.

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If you opened at nine, they were
there with a gun to your head

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If you opened at nine, they were
there with a gun to your head

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to help you open up the store,
you know, and take what you had.

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to help you open up the store,
you know, and take what you had.

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In his 20's he's involved
in armed robberies.

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He goes on a trip to the U.S.
with some guys

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He goes on a trip to the U.S.
with some guys

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and they are going to do
a string of bank robberies

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and they get jacked.

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They get caught in
Lynn, Massachusetts, near Boston.

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They get caught in
Lynn, Massachusetts, near Boston.

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He was in a penitentiary for
five years in the U.S.

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Now 30 years old,
he comes back to Montreal

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Now 30 years old,
he comes back to Montreal

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and that's when he forms what would
be known as the West End Gang.

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In 1961, I was 22 years old

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and I decided to join
the police force.

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and I decided to join
the police force.

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You made yourself a reputation,
you know,

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and I was glad of my reputation.

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and I was glad of my reputation.

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You know,
don't fuck around with Savard.

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Andre Savard -

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Andre Savard -

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top of the cop list in Montreal.

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Would do anything to make an arrest
within the boundaries of the law.

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Would do anything to make an arrest
within the boundaries of the law.

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He took crap from no one.

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My first job, standing guard
at the Botanical Garden.

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My first job, standing guard
at the Botanical Garden.

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You know, I'm armed with a gun
and I'm a police officer

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and don't step on the flowers,
you know.

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and don't step on the flowers,
you know.

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If you do, well,
who knows what's going to happen.

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So I needed some action,
some real police work.

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The hold up squad was busier
than at any other time,

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The hold up squad was busier
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because the capital of robbery
was Montreal.

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That started the whole thing with me
working at the Holdup Squad.

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The West End Gang were considered
good 'bad guys' in the sense that

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The West End Gang were considered
good 'bad guys' in the sense that

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initially they were not dealing
drugs, they had not killed anybody.

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There was a guy John Slawvey,
that was part of the Gang.

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They called him Big John,
Big John Slawvey,

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because he weighed something
like 240 pounds

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and he also was really mean.

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and he also was really mean.

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He hated cops with a vengeance.

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Dunie was close to Slawvey
and he was a big guy.

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Dunie was close to Slawvey
and he was a big guy.

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Dunie liked him a lot.

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There was a cop that was doing
traffic, he was in front of Simpsons

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There was a cop that was doing
traffic, he was in front of Simpsons

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and he was writing a ticket

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and John Slawvey with two other guys
came out of the Simpsons Building

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and John Slawvey with two other guys
came out of the Simpsons Building

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because they just
committed an armed robbery.

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They could have left,

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They could have left,

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the cop was writing a ticket -
he wouldn't see this,

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they were in the back of him.
So he yelled at the cop, Slawvey,

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so the cop turned around...

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so the cop turned around...

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..almost cut him in half, you know,
with a machine gun.

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..almost cut him in half, you know,
with a machine gun.

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It didn't take long for police to
find out from their informants

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that John Slawvey was the killer,

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that John Slawvey was the killer,

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but they didn't have enough evidence
to arrest him.

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Later on we heard about him,
that he was glad at what he did,

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Later on we heard about him,
that he was glad at what he did,

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it was like a trophy for him.

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He used to go shoot at some target
and write" police" on top,

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you know, just shoot him.

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you know, just shoot him.

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For a long time, the West End Gang
was just a bunch of guys

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For a long time, the West End Gang
was just a bunch of guys

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from the Irish neighbourhood.

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It wasn't until they started killing
people that they became a threat.

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It wasn't until they started killing
people that they became a threat.

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They are frightening people.

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They would kill you as soon
as they looked at you.

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They would kill you as soon
as they looked at you.

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They just don't care.

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The eyes of the world were all
on Montreal in 1976

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The eyes of the world were all
on Montreal in 1976

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because of the arrival
of the Olympics.

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Law and order suddenly became
critical in presenting

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Law and order suddenly became
critical in presenting

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a clean image to the world.

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Unfortunately the reality basically
whacked them in the face.

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Unfortunately the reality basically
whacked them in the face.

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It was a crime that stunned
the Montreal police

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It was a crime that stunned
the Montreal police

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because of its audacity.

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The Brinks truck arrived
at the bank to pick up currency

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in all denominations.

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Gunmen in a white van backed up
behind the truck,

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Gunmen in a white van backed up
behind the truck,

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blocking the alley.

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And when the door was flung open,
the remaining guard faced this:

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a 50 calibre anti-aircraft gun.

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a 50 calibre anti-aircraft gun.

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The driver of the second vehicle got
out and went to the door

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of the Brinks truck.
'Open the truck.'

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Those were the only words said
during the whole affair

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Those were the only words said
during the whole affair

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and they were said in English.

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The gunmen escaped with the largest
holdup haul in Quebec history:

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$2.8 million dollars.

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$2.8 million dollars.

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SAVARD:
It was definitely the West End Gang.

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Because nobody else could be
involved in such a robbery.

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Because nobody else could be
involved in such a robbery.

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We knew that the Irish organised
crime in Boston and Montreal

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are connected.

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Who is gonna be able to get
a 50-calibre machine gun?

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Who is gonna be able to get
a 50-calibre machine gun?

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But of course it comes from
the States, you know,

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and who's got those contacts?

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and who's got those contacts?

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Police say they know who is
responsible, they just don't have

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enough evidence to make
the charges stick.

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I went to see my boss,
the inspector, at the time.

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I asked him,
"Why don't you let me do something."

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He told me "Yes you can do it,
Andre, but be careful.

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He told me "Yes you can do it,
Andre, but be careful.

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Don't overdo it."
I had a tendency of overdoing it.

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"Don't be a Dirty Harry,"
that's what he was telling me.

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"Don't be a Dirty Harry,"
that's what he was telling me.

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In order to shake
the organised crime,

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In order to shake
the organised crime,

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the best way we could, legally, was
to do some things that weren't done.

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the best way we could, legally, was
to do some things that weren't done.

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You were stepping out of the rule
book a little bit, you know.

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Police! Open the door.

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Police! Open the door.

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O'CONNOR: They went about rousting
people they thought might be members

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of the West End Gang.

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Hands up police. Come on. Open up.

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Hands up police. Come on. Open up.

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Night after night after night,
they would go to different places

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Night after night after night,
they would go to different places

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where they knew West End Gang
members would hang out

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and they would find guns,
they would find money

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but nothing directly connected to
the Brinks robbery.

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We hit all these places.

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Nittolo's, Peg's -
every motel we hit them, you know.

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We're bothering the West End Gang.

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We're bothering the West End Gang.

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Dunie Ryan did not take kindly to
the fact that they were being
rousted

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night after night by Andre Savard.

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night after night by Andre Savard.

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I'm patrolling near Motel Peg
with one of my men,

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I'm patrolling near Motel Peg
with one of my men,

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and that's what we did before
we're going to hit some place.

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I was driving the car and passing
Motel Peg's, we heard a loud bang.

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I was driving the car and passing
Motel Peg's, we heard a loud bang.

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I didn't know what it was,
so I swung and hit the fence.

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A couple of rifle bullets went
through the back window

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of their unmarked car.

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of their unmarked car.

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Within a week or so Savard found out
that Dunie's friend John Slawvey,

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who was the cop killer, was going
around boasting to the other guys

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who was the cop killer, was going
around boasting to the other guys

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how he had shot at Savard

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because of the problems he was
causing the West End Gang.

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I knew who the guy was so we went to
arrest him -

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there was no way we were going to
take any chances.

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And that's when they laid a trap
to arrest Slawvey

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at his apartment building.

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I got two cops with me, young cops.

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They were never involved
in any shootings.

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So they gonna be nervous, you know,
especially a guy like that.

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So they gonna be nervous, you know,
especially a guy like that.

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He killed a cop.
He doesn't mind killing cops.

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So we waited in the garage
till he got in, you know,

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So we waited in the garage
till he got in, you know,

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just like an old movie.

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You hear the car going in.

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It takes a long time, you don't hear
anything - what's going on,

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you know?

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you know?

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And then we start hearing steps.

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The guy is walking, I can hear him.

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The guy is walking, I can hear him.

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So when he comes I yell at him
"Police" and then he stops

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and looks at me and he said:
"I'm not armed, I'm not armed",

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and looks at me and he said:
"I'm not armed, I'm not armed",

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so I move forward, you know.

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Then all I can remember and I seen
something shiny in his coat,

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Then all I can remember and I seen
something shiny in his coat,

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right here and then he made a move.

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Well I had to make a decision and
it was a quick decision.

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Well I had to make a decision and
it was a quick decision.

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I don't know if it's a gun,
you know. I shot him.

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And then I heard...

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And then I heard...

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My two partners - they shot him,
so he fell down.

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They put something like 27 bullets
into John Slawvey.

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His girlfriend later said he was
reaching for his cigarettes.

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That he didn't have a gun with him.

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00:20:19.080 --> 00:20:24.000
The investigation found that there
was a gun lying beside Slawvey's
body

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The investigation found that there
was a gun lying beside Slawvey's
body

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but another cop told me "Of course
there would be a gun there.

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It probably was a throw away."

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But I know it was,
because I was there.

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But I know it was,
because I was there.

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There can be many different
suspicions, you know,

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There can be many different
suspicions, you know,

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maybe you shouldn't have shot him,

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00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:44.560
maybe a lot of things
I shouldn't have done

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00:20:44.600 --> 00:20:47.320
but I didn't take a chance.

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00:20:47.360 --> 00:20:48.000
I'm alive and he's dead.
I did what I had to do.

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00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.360
I'm alive and he's dead.
I did what I had to do.

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I would have been stupid to do
anything otherwise because

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I would have been killed if not
there somewhere else,

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00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:56.000
maybe another cop
would have been killed.

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00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:57.720
maybe another cop
would have been killed.

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00:20:59.080 --> 00:21:00.800
I've got no regrets.

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Dunie and Slawvey were great pals
and people in the West End Gang were

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really upset by the way he died,

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really upset by the way he died,

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they felt he was murdered by Savard.
That was a bad scene.

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Then there was a $50,000 contract
put out on Savard's life.

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00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.400
Dunie Ryan certainly
wanted our heads.

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And Savard himself
had to be protected.

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00:21:48.840 --> 00:21:52.000
I had a .44 Magnum
which Dirty Harry had.

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00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:53.080
I had a .44 Magnum
which Dirty Harry had.

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I always put my .44 Magnum
under the bed.

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We are not easy targets, you know.

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00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:01.480
We are not easy targets, you know.

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So we are not going to let ourselves
get killed

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without defending ourselves.

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Montreal had Allo Police -
a weekly crime tabloid.

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I was fascinated by it.

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The Head of the West End Gang.

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The Head of the West End Gang.

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00:22:50.360 --> 00:22:53.760
My father got me a job at
The Montreal Gazette as a copy boy.

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00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:56.000
As a journalist, I veered into crime

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00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.960
As a journalist, I veered into crime

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and became an investigative
crime reporter.

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00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.000
I did a magazine story
about Dunie Ryan.

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00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:04.920
I did a magazine story
about Dunie Ryan.

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00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:09.600
And this was a really interesting
figure because what he was doing

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was fairly sophisticated.

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00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:17.320
That story was important to
my career and it led to

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00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:19.040
other stories unfolding.

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00:23:20.360 --> 00:23:22.480
I have never seen these
photos before.

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00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:28.000
It took a long time to find small
pieces of information about Dunie.

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00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:32.720
It took a long time to find small
pieces of information about Dunie.

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00:23:32.760 --> 00:23:35.000
Because he was
a very evasive criminal.

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00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:38.120
That's what he needed to be.

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That was part of what made him great
at what he did.

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O'CONNOR: In the 1980's,

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the West End Gang was getting
involved in more serious crimes

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00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:00.760
the West End Gang was getting
involved in more serious crimes

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00:24:00.800 --> 00:24:04.960
that just robbing a bank
here and there.

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00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.000
Dunie Ryan realised the big money
to be made was in drugs.

447
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:08.640
Dunie Ryan realised the big money
to be made was in drugs.

448
00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:13.640
I think the secret of the
West End Gang is that an opportunity

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came and they saw it.

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They are the right people
at the right time in the right place

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and they realise this,
and that was the key.

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In the 80's it was like everybody
was suddenly selling

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In the 80's it was like everybody
was suddenly selling

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and doing cocaine.

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00:24:34.520 --> 00:24:36.600
There was, like, an explosion of it.

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Everybody loved coke. The dark side
of cocaine hadn't kicked in yet.

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00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.200
Everybody loved coke. The dark side
of cocaine hadn't kicked in yet.

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This very, very desired product
was coming in containers

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00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.760
and everyone had to get it through
that Port and they had to ask

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permission from the West End Gang.

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permission from the West End Gang.

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REPORTER: 26 tonnes found at
the port of Montreal.

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Quebec Police investigators
determined it belonged to a group

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Quebec Police investigators
determined it belonged to a group

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of suspected drug traffickers
known as the Matticks clan.

466
00:25:14.360 --> 00:25:18.120
Well, the Matticks family has been
interesting every police department

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00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:20.000
ever since we're police officers.

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00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:20.400
ever since we're police officers.

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00:25:22.320 --> 00:25:25.960
The Port of Montreal was controlled
by the Irish Mob

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and Gerald Matticks was in charge of
hiring people.

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00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.240
and Gerald Matticks was in charge of
hiring people.

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He was the lynchpin.

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00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:36.000
Everyone knew Gerry Matticks and
Dunie Ryan worked hand in hand
together.

474
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.400
Everyone knew Gerry Matticks and
Dunie Ryan worked hand in hand
together.

475
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:44.000
I've covered Hells Angels leaders in
trials, I've covered Mafia leaders.

476
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:45.280
I've covered Hells Angels leaders in
trials, I've covered Mafia leaders.

477
00:25:45.320 --> 00:25:49.720
Gerry Matticks was different,
Gerry Matticks had personality

478
00:25:49.760 --> 00:25:52.000
that I never saw in any of the other
criminals that I have covered.

479
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.440
that I never saw in any of the other
criminals that I have covered.

480
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.960
He had a sense of humour.
He had charisma.

481
00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:00.000
There was something about him that
made you smile even though

482
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.800
There was something about him that
made you smile even though

483
00:26:03.840 --> 00:26:08.000
you knew that he could stick a shiv
in your back as easily as not.

484
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:08.320
you knew that he could stick a shiv
in your back as easily as not.

485
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.120
What Matticks would later say is,
on any given day I could just touch

486
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.000
the side of my nose and a container
that was up on a crane could go on

487
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:18.480
the side of my nose and a container
that was up on a crane could go on

488
00:26:18.520 --> 00:26:22.440
the right truck that would get out
of the Port without being inspected.

489
00:26:24.360 --> 00:26:27.560
The port of Montreal was the first
choice for many drug traffickers

490
00:26:27.600 --> 00:26:30.600
because once it lands in Montreal,
it's a real launching point

491
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.000
to where you wanted
to distribute your cocaine.

492
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.280
to where you wanted
to distribute your cocaine.

493
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:39.000
The open door to the importation of
narcotics in Canada

494
00:26:39.040 --> 00:26:40.000
and in the United States.

495
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:40.840
and in the United States.

496
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.320
It passes through Montreal
to go to New York.

497
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.000
Cocaine changed what were
formally small gangs.

498
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:48.760
Cocaine changed what were
formally small gangs.

499
00:26:50.120 --> 00:26:53.600
And that's why the West End Gang
suddenly came to light

500
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.000
as a major player
in the Montreal underworld.

501
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:56.640
as a major player
in the Montreal underworld.

502
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.600
The battle amongst all of these
organised crime groups to control

503
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:04.000
the cocaine industry
exploded into gangland slayings

504
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.480
the cocaine industry
exploded into gangland slayings

505
00:27:08.520 --> 00:27:12.000
and corruption seemed to creep into
every aspect of the city.

506
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:12.760
and corruption seemed to creep into
every aspect of the city.

507
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:16.440
Montreal...

508
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.680
These days a city of many coffins.

509
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:20.000
By Victoria Day,
a hundred murders in Quebec.

510
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.240
By Victoria Day,
a hundred murders in Quebec.

511
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:32.280
Things got so bad that
the government was forced to set up

512
00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:35.120
a public inquiry
into organised crime

513
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:36.000
and suddenly the ugliness
just came to the surface.

514
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.000
and suddenly the ugliness
just came to the surface.

515
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.640
It's a frightening picture of
underworld operations

516
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:43.920
and the operators.

517
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.360
A nightly TV show in
Quebec featuring a police inquiry

518
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.760
and starring a host of lawyers
and gangsters.

519
00:27:50.800 --> 00:27:52.000
Underworld figures whose faces were
barely known are becoming as

520
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.680
Underworld figures whose faces were
barely known are becoming as

521
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:55.880
familiar as the Montreal Canadiens.

522
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:00.000
It was a big hit, you got
a Crime Commission that's filming

523
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:00.280
It was a big hit, you got
a Crime Commission that's filming

524
00:28:00.320 --> 00:28:03.760
testimonies of gangsters.
Yeah, it's a hell of a reality show.

525
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.000
They hauled Dunie Ryan and
Gerry Matticks

526
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:08.560
They hauled Dunie Ryan and
Gerry Matticks

527
00:28:08.600 --> 00:28:10.600
in front of the Commission

528
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.840
but they see them as
truck hijackers, bank robbers

529
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.000
and money launderers.

530
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:17.400
and money launderers.

531
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:22.440
They miss the fact that they have
now become the biggest drug dealers,

532
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.000
far out shining the Mafia
and the French Canadian gangs.

533
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.760
far out shining the Mafia
and the French Canadian gangs.

534
00:28:29.320 --> 00:28:31.760
When Dunie was called up to testify,

535
00:28:31.800 --> 00:28:32.000
he said, "I bury my money in
the ground," and in fact he did.

536
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.680
he said, "I bury my money in
the ground," and in fact he did.

537
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.560
So obviously they don't have enough
evidence to charge him with
anything.

538
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:48.000
So they slip away into their own
dark area without anybody

539
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.920
So they slip away into their own
dark area without anybody

540
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:56.000
really understanding that the status
of these gangs is now altered

541
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.240
really understanding that the status
of these gangs is now altered

542
00:28:57.280 --> 00:29:00.120
to a point where real power is
with The West End Gang.

543
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.880
The Italians and the biker gangs had
been the main distributors of
cocaine.

544
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:12.000
These upstart Irish guys started
muscling in on their territory.

545
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:17.720
These upstart Irish guys started
muscling in on their territory.

546
00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:20.000
There were threats made for them
to stay out of the business.

547
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:20.440
There were threats made for them
to stay out of the business.

548
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.560
The Irish wouldn't take that
lying down.

549
00:29:22.600 --> 00:29:25.280
They just continued to expand
the business.

550
00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:36.000
This flood of cocaine poured into
the Ports...

551
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:36.400
This flood of cocaine poured into
the Ports...

552
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.600
..a huge challenge for the RCMP
because we are dealing with

553
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.000
international drug smuggling
of a serious drug

554
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.120
international drug smuggling
of a serious drug

555
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:49.560
that is bringing unbelievable
amounts of money in

556
00:29:49.600 --> 00:29:51.400
and exiting out of the country.

557
00:29:53.800 --> 00:29:58.120
Half a ton of cocaine was
introduced as evidence at the trial.

558
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.000
500 kilos that came all the way from
South America destined for

559
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.440
500 kilos that came all the way from
South America destined for

560
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:03.960
the New York market.

561
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.000
The cocaine never got there -
the RCMP got their hands on it
first.

562
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:08.040
The cocaine never got there -
the RCMP got their hands on it
first.

563
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.800
And the man who was at the head
of this investigation

564
00:30:13.840 --> 00:30:15.680
was Claude Savoie.

565
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:16.000
We all have different theories on
things but until you see something.

566
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.640
We all have different theories on
things but until you see something.

567
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:21.640
This proves that large
quantities do come in -

568
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.000
500 kilos, again, is the largest
seizure ever made in Canada.

569
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.480
500 kilos, again, is the largest
seizure ever made in Canada.

570
00:30:25.520 --> 00:30:28.600
He was considered a good cop,
a clean cop

571
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.000
and he was respected by the people
who worked for him.

572
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:32.360
and he was respected by the people
who worked for him.

573
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:37.440
Everybody liked him, good guy,
backed you up, all the rest of it.

574
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:40.000
I met Savoie,
we started a joint project with

575
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.440
I met Savoie,
we started a joint project with

576
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:46.120
the Montreal Police Drug Squad
and the RCMP.

577
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.000
And I found Savoie to be a good guy,
a comfortable guy to be with.

578
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.480
And I found Savoie to be a good guy,
a comfortable guy to be with.

579
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.000
They've got this small little gang
that suddenly pops out

580
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:56.600
They've got this small little gang
that suddenly pops out

581
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:01.360
and becomes a major player in
cocaine and now Claude Savoie

582
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.000
has to be looking at Dunie Ryan.

583
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:04.040
has to be looking at Dunie Ryan.

584
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.000
The power and reach of the West End
Gang was growing quite significantly

585
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:12.920
The power and reach of the West End
Gang was growing quite significantly

586
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.800
so they made sure they
had the kind of lawyer

587
00:31:15.840 --> 00:31:17.720
with the brazen talent

588
00:31:17.760 --> 00:31:20.000
and connections within
the justice system

589
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:20.360
and connections within
the justice system

590
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.280
they needed to help protect
their criminal empire.

591
00:31:24.560 --> 00:31:26.320
And that man was Sidney Leithman

592
00:31:26.360 --> 00:31:27.800
I can't say that,

593
00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:28.000
it's not because a warrant is
issued that the man is guilty.

594
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.400
it's not because a warrant is
issued that the man is guilty.

595
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.640
The first time I saw
Sidney Leithman,

596
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.000
I was in a courtroom and he walked
in and suddenly the room was

597
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.720
I was in a courtroom and he walked
in and suddenly the room was

598
00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:39.680
full of Sidney Leithman.

599
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.200
I mean this guy was sort of
a pastiche of some kind of

600
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:44.000
Brooklyn mob Lawyer with
the aviator glasses.

601
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.000
Brooklyn mob Lawyer with
the aviator glasses.

602
00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:54.000
Sidney Leithman was my lawyer.

603
00:31:54.040 --> 00:31:57.320
I got found not guilty on
a few cases. Great lawyer.

604
00:31:57.360 --> 00:31:59.400
He was a fixer.

605
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:00.000
He had a lot of judges,
having judges makes cases a lot

606
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.920
He had a lot of judges,
having judges makes cases a lot

607
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:04.080
easier for you.

608
00:32:04.120 --> 00:32:05.840
You're saying he had
judges in his pocket?

609
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.000
Yup. Oh for sure,
for sure, for sure.

610
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.040
Yup. Oh for sure,
for sure, for sure.

611
00:32:11.560 --> 00:32:16.000
We knew at some point that Leithman
was very friendly with one judge.

612
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.000
We knew at some point that Leithman
was very friendly with one judge.

613
00:32:18.360 --> 00:32:21.720
He was renting apartments for him
every once in a while,

614
00:32:21.760 --> 00:32:24.000
he even had a girl,
ya know, a prostitute.

615
00:32:26.120 --> 00:32:31.920
And eventually, he became the lawyer
to a major Montreal crime boss,

616
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:32.000
Frank Cotroni.

617
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:33.760
Frank Cotroni.

618
00:32:33.800 --> 00:32:37.600
At the time, the Cotronis were
the most powerful Mafia family

619
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:38.840
in Montreal.

620
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.760
Whatever he has done in the past,
he has paid for that

621
00:32:44.800 --> 00:32:47.960
and it shouldn't affect him today.

622
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:52.040
If you were caught and you were a
member of the underworld of
Montreal,

623
00:32:52.080 --> 00:32:55.000
they cry would go out
"Get me Leithman".

624
00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:56.000
He represented the Italian mafia
guys, the Hell's Angels guys

625
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.640
He represented the Italian mafia
guys, the Hell's Angels guys

626
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.040
and the West End Gang.

627
00:33:01.320 --> 00:33:03.400
I don't know what
the right answer is?

628
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:04.000
Sidney became the corporate
lawyer for the West End Gang.

629
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.880
Sidney became the corporate
lawyer for the West End Gang.

630
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.520
He was always there for them,
any time, 24 hours a day,

631
00:33:10.560 --> 00:33:12.000
seven days a week.
That was Sidney Leithman.

632
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:13.000
seven days a week.
That was Sidney Leithman.

633
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.000
Dunie Ryan appreciated him so much
that he gave him an Irish Claddagh
ring.

634
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:20.320
Dunie Ryan appreciated him so much
that he gave him an Irish Claddagh
ring.

635
00:33:25.800 --> 00:33:28.000
Dunie Ryan really wanted to create
a bond among the people

636
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:28.440
Dunie Ryan really wanted to create
a bond among the people

637
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:33.000
who worked underneath him and he
made each of them a Claddagh ring.

638
00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:36.000
It's a symbol, it's a heart and it's
two hands pulling on either side

639
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:36.280
It's a symbol, it's a heart and it's
two hands pulling on either side

640
00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:37.480
of the heart.

641
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:42.360
Leithman said,

642
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.000
"I'm probably the only Jew in the
city that is wearing one of these
rings."

643
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.680
"I'm probably the only Jew in the
city that is wearing one of these
rings."

644
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.320
He was very proud of it and he used
to show it to everybody in court.

645
00:33:51.080 --> 00:33:52.000
He was like a made-man
with that ring.

646
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.920
He was like a made-man
with that ring.

647
00:33:56.800 --> 00:33:59.000
For him to give that ring to
Sidney Leithman,

648
00:33:59.040 --> 00:34:00.000
to me it's a sign that
a) I trust you,

649
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.640
to me it's a sign that
a) I trust you,

650
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:05.880
b) it's possible that Mr Leithman
was facilitating his crimes.

651
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:08.000
He got involved in levels of drug
dealing that he should have never

652
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.240
He got involved in levels of drug
dealing that he should have never

653
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.440
ever been a part of.

654
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.000
And once you do that,
you are caught by this group now.

655
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.800
And once you do that,
you are caught by this group now.

656
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.000
You are no longer their lawyer,
you're their slave.

657
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:24.280
You are no longer their lawyer,
you're their slave.

658
00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:32.000
The Brinks robbery was something
that ate at Andre Savard for years.

659
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.320
The Brinks robbery was something
that ate at Andre Savard for years.

660
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.240
Andre would not let go of it.

661
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.000
I'm mad at them like hell,

662
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:40.400
I'm mad at them like hell,

663
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:44.120
so I am going to put them in jail,
arrest them. That's my vengeance.

664
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.000
After the Brinks hold-up
police combed the city for clues.

665
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.760
After the Brinks hold-up
police combed the city for clues.

666
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.560
Police killed suspect
John Slawvey in a shootout.

667
00:34:54.600 --> 00:34:56.000
Four years later police raided
this house on Greene Avenue.

668
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.040
Four years later police raided
this house on Greene Avenue.

669
00:34:58.080 --> 00:35:02.520
Under these floorboards they found
almost $290,000,

670
00:35:02.560 --> 00:35:04.000
believed part of the Brinks loot.

671
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:04.320
believed part of the Brinks loot.

672
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.040
Slawvey lived at
the Greene avenue house.

673
00:35:08.640 --> 00:35:12.000
That was one crime that really got
under his skin.

674
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:13.160
That was one crime that really got
under his skin.

675
00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:14.440
Eight years later,

676
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:18.360
he finally caught most of the
perpetrators of the Brink robbery.

677
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:20.000
The indictment charges
five persons with conspiracy

678
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.080
The indictment charges
five persons with conspiracy

679
00:35:22.120 --> 00:35:25.000
and armed robbery about $3 million.

680
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:28.000
Only the small fry who were involved
in it get tried and sentenced.

681
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.800
Only the small fry who were involved
in it get tried and sentenced.

682
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.280
The leaders of the Brinks robbery,
the guys who put it together,

683
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.680
get off scot free.

684
00:35:38.240 --> 00:35:43.280
Not guilty? Tabarnac, not guilty?

685
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:44.000
That was worse than
the O.J. Simpson case.

686
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.960
That was worse than
the O.J. Simpson case.

687
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:48.320
This was unbelievable.

688
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.960
What the hell do you want, you know?

689
00:35:52.240 --> 00:35:53.560
So...

690
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.760
So in 1984,
after the Brink's investigation,

691
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:00.000
I decided that it was time for me
to go to the top job

692
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.280
I decided that it was time for me
to go to the top job

693
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.680
where I think being a homicide cop
was at the top.

694
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.960
Many years ago, my mother had to
send me to an orphanage.

695
00:36:16.120 --> 00:36:19.880
I always had a tendency
to stand up for the little guy.

696
00:36:21.040 --> 00:36:23.240
I had to defend them,
you know, somehow.

697
00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:28.000
Being a cop, the best way to do this
would be to stop people from

698
00:36:28.040 --> 00:36:29.760
killing each other.

699
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.880
And it became like an obsession.

700
00:36:42.640 --> 00:36:46.840
Dunie Tyan would operate and hold
court in various motels

701
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:48.000
in the West end of Montreal.

702
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:48.560
in the West end of Montreal.

703
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:54.800
He spends a lot of time hanging out
at Nitillo's on Upper Lachine Road.

704
00:36:56.520 --> 00:36:59.520
When I was 15 years old,
I got my first real job

705
00:36:59.560 --> 00:37:01.600
as a busboy at Nittolo's.

706
00:37:01.640 --> 00:37:03.760
And it was a very respected place

707
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:04.000
but there was also
a criminal element to it.

708
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.320
but there was also
a criminal element to it.

709
00:37:09.600 --> 00:37:12.000
That's where members of
the West End Gang,

710
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:12.880
That's where members of
the West End Gang,

711
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:17.360
most of them Irish guys, would come
and pay homage to Dunie Ryan.

712
00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:20.000
He was very generous
with his cohorts.

713
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:21.840
He was very generous
with his cohorts.

714
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.960
And if they got out of jail Dunie
right away would give the guy money

715
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.000
to buy new clothes,
a couple of grams of cocaine.

716
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:29.920
to buy new clothes,
a couple of grams of cocaine.

717
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:33.120
And he would keep their loyalty
that way.

718
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.000
What made him, Dunie,
a good crime boss?

719
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.360
What made him, Dunie,
a good crime boss?

720
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:38.960
He had a good gang.

721
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.400
He just had good people around him
that supported him.

722
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.720
Dunie is running
this powerful business.

723
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.920
He has a very nice home,

724
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.000
and a 30-foot power yacht
where he entertained his cronies.

725
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.840
and a 30-foot power yacht
where he entertained his cronies.

726
00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:58.720
The money had become almost
a joke to the guys.

727
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.000
It was that much money,
that was the legend.

728
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.040
It was that much money,
that was the legend.

729
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.400
I think there was always
the idea that

730
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.000
"Hey you could be living this dream,
you could be living this life."

731
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:08.240
"Hey you could be living this dream,
you could be living this life."

732
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:11.800
They sold that dream very well and
the younger people who were

733
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.960
at the bottom looked up to them
and thought they were so cool

734
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:16.000
and be like them one day
and they bought the lie.

735
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.040
and be like them one day
and they bought the lie.

736
00:38:20.120 --> 00:38:23.120
They lived the high life
in every way.

737
00:38:23.160 --> 00:38:24.000
And meanwhile none of that trickled
down back to the people

738
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.000
And meanwhile none of that trickled
down back to the people

739
00:38:26.040 --> 00:38:28.080
who were working for them.

740
00:38:28.120 --> 00:38:32.000
Wow, it hasn't changed.
My bedroom was right up there.

741
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:32.400
Wow, it hasn't changed.
My bedroom was right up there.

742
00:38:34.680 --> 00:38:36.440
They didn't share any of
that wealth.

743
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.160
They got to live this lifestyle that
the people in The Point

744
00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:40.000
could only dream of.

745
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:40.520
could only dream of.

746
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.000
Dunie Ryan might have been
an honest thief,

747
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:48.680
Dunie Ryan might have been
an honest thief,

748
00:38:48.720 --> 00:38:50.360
as a lot of people called him,

749
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.320
however if you crossed Dunie,
there could be hell to pay.

750
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.640
Patrick McGurnaghan was a mid-level
member of the West End Gang.

751
00:39:01.680 --> 00:39:04.000
He owed Dunie about 200,000 bucks
and every time Dunie tried to
collect,

752
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.400
He owed Dunie about 200,000 bucks
and every time Dunie tried to
collect,

753
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.720
McGurnaghan would blow him off.

754
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.000
Dunie hired Apache Trudeau
who is a Hells Angels guy

755
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:13.560
Dunie hired Apache Trudeau
who is a Hells Angels guy

756
00:39:13.600 --> 00:39:16.000
also known as the Mad Bomber.

757
00:39:16.040 --> 00:39:18.440
He was basically a psychopath.

758
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.000
But he was very handy to be hired
if you wanted somebody killed.

759
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.080
But he was very handy to be hired
if you wanted somebody killed.

760
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.000
Apache Trudeau planted a bomb
underneath McGurnaghan's car

761
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.880
Apache Trudeau planted a bomb
underneath McGurnaghan's car

762
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.720
with a radio device
that would detonate the bomb.

763
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.000
McGurnaghan gets in his car
and starts driving...

764
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.360
McGurnaghan gets in his car
and starts driving...

765
00:39:40.520 --> 00:39:43.360
..turns the corner near a park
and a school.

766
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.800
The white 1977 Mercedes
Benz was travelling south about

767
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:57.560
quarter to one this afternoon.

768
00:39:57.600 --> 00:40:00.000
Suddenly a loud explosion, the car
blew apart and came to stop

769
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.440
Suddenly a loud explosion, the car
blew apart and came to stop

770
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:03.840
off the side of the road
150 feet away.

771
00:40:07.080 --> 00:40:08.000
The man just fell out and his arms
and legs were blown off.

772
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.760
The man just fell out and his arms
and legs were blown off.

773
00:40:16.120 --> 00:40:18.480
And that was the end of McGurnaghan.

774
00:40:21.720 --> 00:40:24.000
Dunie had made an example of him.
And the word was out very quickly -

775
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.640
Dunie had made an example of him.
And the word was out very quickly -

776
00:40:26.680 --> 00:40:28.560
you do not fuck with Dunie.

777
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.200
In that period of time,
I was a homicide cop

778
00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:40.000
and I was involved with an informer
that the West End Gang

779
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.520
and I was involved with an informer
that the West End Gang

780
00:40:41.560 --> 00:40:42.960
was trying to kill.

781
00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:51.080
The West End Gang had a lot
of power, complete power,

782
00:41:51.120 --> 00:41:52.000
because people in The Point knew
there was no line

783
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.800
because people in The Point knew
there was no line

784
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.240
they wouldn't cross.

785
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.000
Because we were so close to the
tracks we could see them bringing

786
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.040
Because we were so close to the
tracks we could see them bringing

787
00:42:01.080 --> 00:42:04.680
a body that they would be able to
distribute along the train track

788
00:42:04.720 --> 00:42:07.160
because the train can do a lot of
damage to a body

789
00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:08.000
and get rid of the parts.

790
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:08.840
and get rid of the parts.

791
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.840
When I was a kid, I came to look
after the train had gone by

792
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:16.000
and lying on the dirt
not far from the track,

793
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.400
and lying on the dirt
not far from the track,

794
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.440
I wasn't sure at first what it was,

795
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.000
and then I realised it
was a hand and sort of kicked it

796
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:24.360
and then I realised it
was a hand and sort of kicked it

797
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.280
a bit with my foot and thought
"Wow".

798
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.560
I mean the fingertips were
still attached,

799
00:42:30.600 --> 00:42:32.000
it was a complete
hand that hadn't even been crushed.

800
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.040
it was a complete
hand that hadn't even been crushed.

801
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:43.160
Violence like that,
it breeds more violence.

802
00:42:59.520 --> 00:43:02.840
By 1984, Dunie Ryan
is looking over his shoulder,

803
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:04.000
wondering how safe
his perch might be,

804
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:05.560
wondering how safe
his perch might be,

805
00:43:05.600 --> 00:43:07.760
because he knows people
are jealous of him.

806
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.240
Dunie had worth
between 50 and 100 million

807
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:20.000
and he did express his concerns
about his own safety

808
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:20.800
and he did express his concerns
about his own safety

809
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.960
and he was worried about his kids
being possibly kidnapped.

810
00:43:27.240 --> 00:43:28.000
The West End Gang was splitting
in some ways, you know?

811
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.520
The West End Gang was splitting
in some ways, you know?

812
00:43:30.560 --> 00:43:33.280
Everybody wanted to take over.
That's the way criminals are,

813
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:35.680
you know. They want to take over.

814
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.880
In that world, it's a vicious world.
It can come from anywhere.

815
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.800
Dunie rides to meet up
with some members of his gang

816
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:52.000
in the bar at Nittolo's.

817
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:52.560
in the bar at Nittolo's.

818
00:43:54.160 --> 00:43:56.840
That was where he hung out,
did business,

819
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:00.000
he wouldn't think twice about
something happening to him there.

820
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:00.160
he wouldn't think twice about
something happening to him there.

821
00:44:00.200 --> 00:44:05.560
As Dunie is sitting there,
a fellow by the name of Paul April

822
00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:08.000
approaches his table.

823
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:08.560
approaches his table.

824
00:44:08.600 --> 00:44:12.680
And he owes Dunie Ryan $200,000

825
00:44:12.720 --> 00:44:14.560
and he's scared.

826
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.600
He invites Dunie to a room
at the motel

827
00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:23.480
where he says he's going to pay him,
give him the money.

828
00:44:23.520 --> 00:44:24.000
Dunie says "OK, let's go."
And off they go to Room 40.

829
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.200
Dunie says "OK, let's go."
And off they go to Room 40.

830
00:44:30.040 --> 00:44:32.000
They walk in there
and out of the bathroom

831
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:33.280
They walk in there
and out of the bathroom

832
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:38.920
steps a friend of Paul April's
with a shotgun in his hand.

833
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.000
Dunie knows he's doomed
unless he gets out of there.

834
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.000
Dunie knows he's doomed
unless he gets out of there.

835
00:44:43.040 --> 00:44:46.280
He's gotta fight his way
out of there or he's finished.

836
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.000
So he picked up the chair
and smashed it into the window

837
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.920
So he picked up the chair
and smashed it into the window

838
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.240
to make a break for it.

839
00:44:53.560 --> 00:44:55.000
He went down swinging.

840
00:45:00.640 --> 00:45:04.000
One of Paul April's henchmen
blasts Dunie Ryan in the chest,

841
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.840
One of Paul April's henchmen
blasts Dunie Ryan in the chest,

842
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:07.520
blows him away.

843
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.920
'Reputed West End
cocaine dealer Peter Dunie Ryan

844
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:19.560
was shot to death in a motel
on Upper Lachine Road.

845
00:45:19.600 --> 00:45:20.000
Who did it is anybody's guess,
but it had to be someone
Ryan trusted

846
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.280
Who did it is anybody's guess,
but it had to be someone
Ryan trusted

847
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:25.760
for a killer or killers
to get so close to him

848
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.000
with a 12-gauge shotgun
and a .45 calibre pistol.'

849
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:28.600
with a 12-gauge shotgun
and a .45 calibre pistol.'

850
00:45:32.120 --> 00:45:35.760
He died at 42.
It's a very young age.

851
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:36.000
Dunie wanted to "Live Fast,
Love Hard and Die Young."

852
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.480
Dunie wanted to "Live Fast,
Love Hard and Die Young."

853
00:45:41.040 --> 00:45:44.000
If that was his motto in life,
then all three wishes came true,

854
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.560
If that was his motto in life,
then all three wishes came true,

855
00:45:45.600 --> 00:45:47.000
unfortunately.

856
00:45:59.120 --> 00:46:00.000
Dunie's funeral was here.

857
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.280
Dunie's funeral was here.

858
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:07.120
Just not too far away
was where he was killed

859
00:46:07.160 --> 00:46:08.000
and where he did a lot of business.

860
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:09.040
and where he did a lot of business.

861
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.760
Dunie Ryan for me was close to home.

862
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.720
I worked at Nittolo's as a kid.

863
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.000
I shot pool as a teenager
at Smitty's, a big hangout of his.

864
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:25.760
I shot pool as a teenager
at Smitty's, a big hangout of his.

865
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.640
There's more of a familiarity,
a character

866
00:46:29.680 --> 00:46:32.000
that you're reporting on,
when they've covered the same turf
as you.

867
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.080
that you're reporting on,
when they've covered the same turf
as you.

868
00:46:37.160 --> 00:46:40.000
The loveable anti-hero.
Maybe he struck that chord in me.

869
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.600
The loveable anti-hero.
Maybe he struck that chord in me.

870
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:52.360
One of the things about the West End
Gang that I think is terrible

871
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.520
is how much
we want to romanticise them.

872
00:46:54.560 --> 00:46:56.000
I always thought
they were pieces of shit.

873
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:56.720
I always thought
they were pieces of shit.

874
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:59.400
I don't know why people
looked up to them. I would look
at them

875
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.200
and think, "Fuck you. You're not
the hero that you think you are,

876
00:47:02.240 --> 00:47:04.000
or that you want to pretend
you are."

877
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:04.480
or that you want to pretend
you are."

878
00:47:04.520 --> 00:47:07.240
They were bullies who were just
taking advantage of people

879
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:08.560
who were vulnerable.

880
00:47:08.600 --> 00:47:10.800
A lot of them are not nice people.

881
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:12.000
The criminal world is a fucked up
world, there is no doubt about it.

882
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.080
The criminal world is a fucked up
world, there is no doubt about it.

883
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.360
When Dunie Ryan was killed,

884
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:28.000
Allan Ross, just by the vacancy,

885
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.960
Allan Ross, just by the vacancy,

886
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.760
the vacuum of power, swung in.

887
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.000
'Allan Ross started out
running errands for Dunie Ryan.

888
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.920
'Allan Ross started out
running errands for Dunie Ryan.

889
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.600
He spent a lot of nights
at this West End motel

890
00:47:40.640 --> 00:47:43.200
watching Ryan collect millions
from drug-running.'

891
00:47:43.240 --> 00:47:44.000
You could stop Allan Ross
on the street and you could see

892
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.960
You could stop Allan Ross
on the street and you could see

893
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.640
the hate in his eyes for police,
you could see it

894
00:47:49.680 --> 00:47:52.000
while talking to him. You know,
that scar he had on his face

895
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.960
while talking to him. You know,
that scar he had on his face

896
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.240
and his beady eyes looking at you.

897
00:47:56.560 --> 00:48:00.000
He was a violent human being
and if he wanted something,

898
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:00.520
He was a violent human being
and if he wanted something,

899
00:48:00.560 --> 00:48:03.000
I believe he would have killed you
for it.

900
00:48:03.040 --> 00:48:05.640
Allan Ross would destroy you
if you're not careful.

901
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:08.000
He was considered
a nasty piece of work.

902
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:11.280
He was considered
a nasty piece of work.

903
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.680
His nickname was The Weasel.

904
00:48:13.720 --> 00:48:16.000
Some say it's because
he looked like a ferret.

905
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:16.760
Some say it's because
he looked like a ferret.

906
00:48:18.040 --> 00:48:21.080
He tried to get away
with everything, he tried not to be

907
00:48:21.120 --> 00:48:24.000
involved in things and if he was
involved he'd be in the back.

908
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:25.640
involved in things and if he was
involved he'd be in the back.

909
00:48:25.680 --> 00:48:28.120
They called him The Weasel
for a reason, you know.

910
00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:32.000
Paul April is out in the East End
at a bar bragging about it

911
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:32.800
Paul April is out in the East End
at a bar bragging about it

912
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.440
with his buddies,
saying, "The King is dead.

913
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:39.800
Dunie Ryan is dead
and now I'm the king."

914
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.000
I mean, it's laughable. Who are you?

915
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.200
I mean, it's laughable. Who are you?

916
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:48.000
Allan Ross knew who was involved
in Dunie Ryan's murder

917
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:49.440
Allan Ross knew who was involved
in Dunie Ryan's murder

918
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:51.840
and he set about getting them.

919
00:48:59.200 --> 00:49:04.000
Paul April was staying with his gang
in the apartment on De Maisonneuve.

920
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:04.440
Paul April was staying with his gang
in the apartment on De Maisonneuve.

921
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.440
They knew that the gang
was looking, especially Allan Ross

922
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:11.080
was looking for him
to avenge Dunie Ryan.

923
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.000
It's four in the morning.

924
00:49:20.040 --> 00:49:23.840
Paul April and three of his cronies
are holed up in this apartment.

925
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.640
They're doing coke,
they are having a good time.

926
00:49:27.680 --> 00:49:28.000
There's a knock on the door

927
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:29.360
There's a knock on the door

928
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.640
and who's at the door
but Apache Trudeau?

929
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.000
He's got a gift for Paul April.
It's a video recorder...

930
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.880
He's got a gift for Paul April.
It's a video recorder...

931
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.400
..with a tape called 'The History
of the Hell's Angels in Montreal.'

932
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:44.000
Aren't you a little suspicious
about this at four in the morning?

933
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.320
Aren't you a little suspicious
about this at four in the morning?

934
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:48.920
That it's Apache Trudeau,
for heaven's sake.

935
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.080
You know who this guy is...

936
00:49:51.560 --> 00:49:52.000
... this legendary mass bomber
for the Hell's Angels.

937
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.360
... this legendary mass bomber
for the Hell's Angels.

938
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.000
Paul April puts the VCR down
and Apache Trudeau leaves.

939
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.040
Paul April puts the VCR down
and Apache Trudeau leaves.

940
00:50:03.120 --> 00:50:06.880
A little while later
he turns on the VCR.

941
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:16.000
They put the tape inside.
It's been wired by Apache Trudeau

942
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:16.280
They put the tape inside.
It's been wired by Apache Trudeau

943
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.280
so that after it's played
for a couple of minutes...

944
00:50:27.640 --> 00:50:31.880
The windows come screaming out
onto the street.

945
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:32.000
Half the floor is gone.

946
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:34.360
Half the floor is gone.

947
00:50:37.640 --> 00:50:40.000
'There was
so much damage,
firemen had to use an aerial crane

948
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.560
'There was
so much damage,
firemen had to use an aerial crane

949
00:50:41.600 --> 00:50:43.040
to remove the four bodies.'

950
00:50:45.200 --> 00:50:48.000
'They are now saying
that a full-scale gang war

951
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:48.320
'They are now saying
that a full-scale gang war

952
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.400
may now be underway,
because two of the four men

953
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.120
in room 917 when the ten-pound
dynamite bomb exploded

954
00:50:53.160 --> 00:50:55.840
were believed to be
part of the Ryan organisation.'

955
00:50:58.160 --> 00:51:02.040
It's a huge bomb,
a lot of C4 packed into it

956
00:51:02.080 --> 00:51:04.000
and it blows the occupants
of the apartment to smithereens.

957
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.600
and it blows the occupants
of the apartment to smithereens.

958
00:51:10.080 --> 00:51:12.000
Paul April's face is gone,
most of his body is gone.

959
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.680
Paul April's face is gone,
most of his body is gone.

960
00:51:14.720 --> 00:51:19.400
At the time they didn't really know

961
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:20.000
what had happened and they thought

962
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:21.040
what had happened and they thought

963
00:51:21.080 --> 00:51:23.400
that because his chest
was blown away

964
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.920
he had been making a bomb that was
going to be strapped to his body.

965
00:51:58.680 --> 00:52:00.000
'Yves Apache Trudeau
took part in 43 murders

966
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:01.920
'Yves Apache Trudeau
took part in 43 murders

967
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:05.200
as a Hell's Angels hitman
in the '70s and '80s,

968
00:52:05.240 --> 00:52:08.000
sometimes with guns,
sometimes with bombs.

969
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:08.200
sometimes with guns,
sometimes with bombs.

970
00:52:08.240 --> 00:52:11.200
A violent man,
even by biker standards.'

971
00:52:20.200 --> 00:52:24.000
Police confirmed from Apache Trudeau
that he was hired by Allan Ross

972
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.120
Police confirmed from Apache Trudeau
that he was hired by Allan Ross

973
00:52:25.160 --> 00:52:27.760
to plant that bomb
in Paul April's apartment.

974
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:31.200
Luckily for Allan Ross, he was
never charged for that murder,

975
00:52:31.240 --> 00:52:32.000
because it was really
Apache Trudeau's word
against Allan Ross's word.

976
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.520
because it was really
Apache Trudeau's word
against Allan Ross's word.

977
00:52:39.240 --> 00:52:40.000
I got in touch with Allan Ross
to find out his take on the story

978
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:43.400
I got in touch with Allan Ross
to find out his take on the story

979
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:47.080
of what happened and whether
he was involved and so on.

980
00:52:47.120 --> 00:52:48.000
He wrote me back. "There was
only two things that could happen

981
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:51.880
He wrote me back. "There was
only two things that could happen

982
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.000
when Dunie got killed.
I was gonna get killed

983
00:52:55.040 --> 00:52:56.000
or the people responsible
for Dunie's death
were gonna get killed.

984
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:58.680
or the people responsible
for Dunie's death
were gonna get killed.

985
00:52:58.720 --> 00:53:04.000
Paul was in a tavern
bragging that he had killed the king

986
00:53:04.040 --> 00:53:06.960
and Paul was looking to see
which way the wind was blowing.

987
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.840
And 13 days later, it was
blowing him to hell. Ha-ha!!"

988
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:17.280
So one by one
in a very systematic way,

989
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.000
Allan Ross took out everybody
involved in Dunie Ryan's murder.

990
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:21.960
Allan Ross took out everybody
involved in Dunie Ryan's murder.

991
00:53:23.600 --> 00:53:25.160
Because as the saying goes,

992
00:53:25.200 --> 00:53:28.000
three people can keep a secret
only if two of them are dead.

993
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:29.680
three people can keep a secret
only if two of them are dead.

994
00:53:29.720 --> 00:53:33.360
This was bound to happen
because there was war

995
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:34.680
inside the gang itself.

996
00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:36.000
The organised crime groups,

997
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.560
The organised crime groups,

998
00:53:37.600 --> 00:53:39.240
they destroy themselves.

999
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.560
They don't care about anybody
but themselves.

1000
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.840
And at the end of it all,

1001
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.000
Allan Ross had finally secured
his own position

1002
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:52.640
Allan Ross had finally secured
his own position

1003
00:53:52.680 --> 00:53:55.280
as the new king of
the West End Gang,

1004
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:58.600
with his own people,
his own structure

1005
00:53:58.640 --> 00:54:00.000
and his own way of doing business.

1006
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:00.520
and his own way of doing business.

1007
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.040
'Ross went on to make more,
much more.

1008
00:54:07.080 --> 00:54:08.000
Under his command the West End Gang
forged a partnership

1009
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.560
Under his command the West End Gang
forged a partnership

1010
00:54:10.600 --> 00:54:14.320
with the Sicilian Mafia
and Colombia's cocaine cartels.'

1011
00:54:21.080 --> 00:54:24.000
I became the lead attorney
for the organised crime task force

1012
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:24.400
I became the lead attorney
for the organised crime task force

1013
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.680
in north Florida. At that time
every big criminal organisation

1014
00:54:27.720 --> 00:54:30.560
on Planet Earth was in drugs
coming out of Colombia.

1015
00:54:32.160 --> 00:54:35.320
We worked the Colombian cartels hard
and the cartel

1016
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.880
that I was primarily interested
in was better armed

1017
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.000
and in greater numbers
than the Colombian army.

1018
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:41.120
and in greater numbers
than the Colombian army.

1019
00:54:41.160 --> 00:54:44.080
So we're watching everything they do

1020
00:54:44.120 --> 00:54:47.120
and lo and behold there's this guy
from Montreal that shows up,

1021
00:54:47.160 --> 00:54:48.000
Allan Ross. It's like, "What the
heck is going on with that?"

1022
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.720
Allan Ross. It's like, "What the
heck is going on with that?"

1023
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:51.960
So we start digging.

1024
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.560
'By the mid 1980s,
Florida drug agents

1025
00:54:54.600 --> 00:54:56.000
began secretly investigating Ross.'

1026
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:56.880
began secretly investigating Ross.'

1027
00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:02.200
For a Canadian to go down
and make direct contact
with the Colombian Cartel guys,

1028
00:55:02.240 --> 00:55:03.680
I had never seen that before.

1029
00:55:03.720 --> 00:55:04.000
We indicted Allan Ross
for being the lead figure

1030
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.720
We indicted Allan Ross
for being the lead figure

1031
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:11.920
to traffic in illegal drugs
in the United States, Canada

1032
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:12.000
and elsewhere. You seal
the indictment

1033
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.480
and elsewhere. You seal
the indictment

1034
00:55:14.520 --> 00:55:16.360
so they don't know
you are coming for them.

1035
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:20.000
'Narcotics worth hundreds
of millions have been seized
in Montreal

1036
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:20.440
'Narcotics worth hundreds
of millions have been seized
in Montreal

1037
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.120
during the past 11 months,
but no-one has been arrested.

1038
00:55:23.160 --> 00:55:27.520
Inside the container, agents found
a fortune in narcotics,

1039
00:55:27.560 --> 00:55:28.000
but no-one claimed it,
perhaps because the dealers knew

1040
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:29.960
but no-one claimed it,
perhaps because the dealers knew

1041
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.560
or suspected that they were
under police surveillance.'

1042
00:55:32.600 --> 00:55:36.000
Ross knew how to play the system.

1043
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:36.360
Ross knew how to play the system.

1044
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:41.320
He was able to stay ahead
of the justice system in Canada.

1045
00:55:43.040 --> 00:55:44.000
It was embarrassing
and you had to ask yourself

1046
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.360
It was embarrassing
and you had to ask yourself

1047
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.520
what was wrong with the Canadians
that they couldn't get this guy?

1048
00:55:48.560 --> 00:55:51.760
He's been around for 20 years
doing drugs in Montreal.

1049
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:52.000
Nobody had the answer at the time.

1050
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.840
Nobody had the answer at the time.

1051
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.000
And nobody believed at the time
that it could possibly be

1052
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:00.040
And nobody believed at the time
that it could possibly be

1053
00:56:00.080 --> 00:56:01.760
who it ended up being.

1054
00:56:13.120 --> 00:56:16.000
'Sidney Leithman, lawyer,
and specialist in defending

1055
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:16.040
'Sidney Leithman, lawyer,
and specialist in defending

1056
00:56:16.080 --> 00:56:18.640
against major crime charges.'

1057
00:56:18.680 --> 00:56:23.920
'Does any one of you know of
a murder that hasn't happened yet?

1058
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:24.000
Somebody who is a victim that,
in your opinion,

1059
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.800
Somebody who is a victim that,
in your opinion,

1060
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:29.320
is going to be killed?'

1061
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:32.000
'I'm not going to answer that.'

1062
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:33.040
'I'm not going to answer that.'

1063
00:56:33.080 --> 00:56:35.840
'If you wanted a lawyer killed,
how much do you think

1064
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:37.800
you would have to have in the bank
to get it done?'

1065
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.000
'I wouldn't even think.
I wouldn't know.'

1066
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:40.040
'I wouldn't even think.
I wouldn't know.'

1067
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:45.120
There's a basic rule
for journalists and lawyers

1068
00:56:45.160 --> 00:56:48.000
when dealing with underworld guys,
you don't get too close.

1069
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:48.680
when dealing with underworld guys,
you don't get too close.

1070
00:56:48.720 --> 00:56:53.400
Nothing is personal here, you don't
go out and drink with them.

1071
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.000
You don't get involved
in anything they are involved with,

1072
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:57.560
You don't get involved
in anything they are involved with,

1073
00:56:57.600 --> 00:57:00.480
that sort of thing.
You keep your distance. You do it

1074
00:57:00.520 --> 00:57:04.000
for your own safety. And, uh,
Leithman didn't understand that.

1075
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:06.400
for your own safety. And, uh,
Leithman didn't understand that.

1076
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.160
We look for the crooked lawyers,
we look for the crooked cops

1077
00:57:11.200 --> 00:57:12.000
and Leithman was in our sights.

1078
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:12.880
and Leithman was in our sights.

1079
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:19.200
He was an important appendage
to Ross's organisation.

1080
00:57:19.240 --> 00:57:20.000
He's the guy that told witnesses
to keep their mouth shut,

1081
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:21.800
He's the guy that told witnesses
to keep their mouth shut,

1082
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:25.800
he's the one that made the deals
with witnesses,
that if you keep your mouth shut

1083
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.000
you'll get paid, the guy that
advised Ross, when he had a problem,
who was talking.

1084
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.760
you'll get paid, the guy that
advised Ross, when he had a problem,
who was talking.

1085
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.000
He is no longer a defence lawyer,
he is a felon

1086
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:36.440
He is no longer a defence lawyer,
he is a felon

1087
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.320
conspiring to obstruct justice.

1088
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:43.240
'He made headlines taking
on Colombian cartel characters

1089
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:44.000
as clients
and usually got them off.'

1090
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:45.840
as clients
and usually got them off.'

1091
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:50.920
He was very well liked
by the cartels down in Colombia.

1092
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.080
He liked the fact
that they would fly him down,

1093
00:57:55.120 --> 00:57:57.720
provide him with money, drugs

1094
00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:59.760
and women, whatever he wanted.

1095
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.480
I think that Leithman
got sucked into a couple of files

1096
00:58:04.520 --> 00:58:07.840
with the Colombians for the money,
then he got too deep.

1097
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:08.000
There were rumours that he was
doing coke himself

1098
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.000
There were rumours that he was
doing coke himself

1099
00:58:11.040 --> 00:58:14.680
and if you have an addiction
to any kind of drugs,
you become less trusted.

1100
00:58:18.200 --> 00:58:21.400
'Police intercepted a cargo plane
from Medellin, Colombia.

1101
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.320
It contained half a ton of cocaine.'

1102
00:58:24.640 --> 00:58:30.200
By 1989, the Colombians were
starting to lose faith on Leithman.

1103
00:58:32.640 --> 00:58:35.440
He was losing cases.

1104
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.120
They were blaming Leithman
for the fact

1105
00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:40.000
they had lost millions of dollars
in the cocaine being seized.

1106
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:41.400
they had lost millions of dollars
in the cocaine being seized.

1107
00:58:44.520 --> 00:58:47.120
His dealings
with those types of people,

1108
00:58:47.160 --> 00:58:48.000
I mean, if you're doing court cases,
you'd better win them.

1109
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.640
I mean, if you're doing court cases,
you'd better win them.

1110
00:58:49.680 --> 00:58:51.240
And he wasn't winning them.

1111
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:56.000
There was this sense with him
of making promises he can't keep

1112
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:56.800
There was this sense with him
of making promises he can't keep

1113
00:58:56.840 --> 00:59:00.760
and just a man
who you could no longer trust.

1114
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.000
And in that world,
if you can no longer trust somebody,

1115
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:05.040
And in that world,
if you can no longer trust somebody,

1116
00:59:05.080 --> 00:59:06.200
that's the end.

1117
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:12.000
'Sidney Leithman was just
five blocks from his house

1118
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.840
'Sidney Leithman was just
five blocks from his house

1119
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:18.640
when he was shot in the head
this morning. Family members
were on the scene quickly,

1120
00:59:18.680 --> 00:59:20.000
shocked, standing barefoot
in the street.

1121
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:21.440
shocked, standing barefoot
in the street.

1122
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:24.280
Investigators found some
shell casings on the ground

1123
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:26.680
and they found a bullet
in the grass opposite the car.

1124
00:59:26.720 --> 00:59:28.000
They say it went through
the passenger side car window,

1125
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:29.640
They say it went through
the passenger side car window,

1126
00:59:29.680 --> 00:59:32.040
hit Leithman, went through
the driver's side window

1127
00:59:32.080 --> 00:59:34.360
and then came to a scorching stop
in the grass.'

1128
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:41.400
To this day, we have no idea
who killed Sidney Leithman.

1129
00:59:44.240 --> 00:59:50.240
This was a man who was involved
with so many different
underworld figures in his life.

1130
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:52.000
You never know when or where
or from whom

1131
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.480
You never know when or where
or from whom

1132
00:59:54.520 --> 00:59:56.200
the bullet is going to come.

1133
00:59:58.080 --> 01:00:00.000
He'd been involved with
the Columbians, with the Mafia

1134
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.400
He'd been involved with
the Columbians, with the Mafia

1135
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.040
and with the Hell's Angels.

1136
01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:06.720
And of course he was also deeply
involved with the West End Gang

1137
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.000
and Allan Ross.

1138
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:09.040
and Allan Ross.

1139
01:00:12.720 --> 01:00:16.000
Did he offend somebody,
did he go too far?

1140
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:16.320
Did he offend somebody,
did he go too far?

1141
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:21.200
Was he working too much
with the competition?

1142
01:00:21.240 --> 01:00:24.000
You just never know,
that's why it's the underworld.

1143
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:24.880
You just never know,
that's why it's the underworld.

1144
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:32.000
So unless somebody
actually comes out and confesses,

1145
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:33.480
So unless somebody
actually comes out and confesses,

1146
01:00:33.520 --> 01:00:36.920
I'm not sure we will ever find out
what the real story is

1147
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.080
behind Sidney Leithman's death.

1148
01:00:52.200 --> 01:00:56.000
In the summer of '92 I was working
for the CBC TV programme

1149
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:56.040
In the summer of '92 I was working
for the CBC TV programme

1150
01:00:56.080 --> 01:00:57.400
'The Fifth Estate.'

1151
01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:01.320
It's the Canadian equivalent
to '60 Minutes,'

1152
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.000
it's a great investigative TV show.

1153
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:04.200
it's a great investigative TV show.

1154
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:10.440
My job was to develop stories
and there were some interesting
developments going on

1155
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.000
with the drug trade
and the West End Gang.

1156
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:12.760
with the drug trade
and the West End Gang.

1157
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.560
Dan has great contacts
with the police,

1158
01:01:16.600 --> 01:01:19.880
but he also has great contacts
with the crime community.

1159
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:20.000
So when Dan Burke comes to me
and says, "Hey, we should do

1160
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.280
So when Dan Burke comes to me
and says, "Hey, we should do

1161
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:26.640
the story on the West End Gang,
it was a natural

1162
01:01:26.680 --> 01:01:28.000
for us to work on it together.

1163
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:28.800
for us to work on it together.

1164
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:33.640
How is it that Allan Ross
gets away for so many years

1165
01:01:33.680 --> 01:01:36.000
being one of the most powerful
drug traffickers in North America?

1166
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:37.400
being one of the most powerful
drug traffickers in North America?

1167
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:42.760
It doesn't take Dan long
to begin to hear whispers.

1168
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:44.000
Everybody knew Allan Ross
was a criminal and a crime boss.

1169
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:48.600
Everybody knew Allan Ross
was a criminal and a crime boss.

1170
01:01:48.640 --> 01:01:52.000
The question was,
why wasn't he getting arrested?

1171
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:52.240
The question was,
why wasn't he getting arrested?

1172
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.000
And the key there
was Sidney Leithman.

1173
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.000
So then the question was,
who did Sidney Leithman have

1174
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:00.560
So then the question was,
who did Sidney Leithman have

1175
01:02:00.600 --> 01:02:03.320
in the police and the judiciary?

1176
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:06.280
When big boys don't get arrested,
it's because they have friends.

1177
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.000
It was standard fare for us.
It wasn't a big question mark.

1178
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:11.920
It was standard fare for us.
It wasn't a big question mark.

1179
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:14.840
The question mark was who, not if.

1180
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.600
You can probably investigate
Montreal for corruption

1181
01:02:21.640 --> 01:02:24.000
at any point in history
and have several stories.

1182
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.880
at any point in history
and have several stories.

1183
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:31.480
But I was left with the impression
that it was unusual

1184
01:02:31.520 --> 01:02:32.000
how they were operating at the RCMP
drug squad in Montreal under Savoie.

1185
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.680
how they were operating at the RCMP
drug squad in Montreal under Savoie.

1186
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:40.000
'So this confirmed to us,
because you have to have

1187
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.440
'So this confirmed to us,
because you have to have

1188
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.440
some evidence
to believe something...'
Claude Savoie for many years

1189
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:48.000
was the head of the RCMP drug squad.

1190
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:48.760
was the head of the RCMP drug squad.

1191
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:52.480
So we're journalists,
we go wherever the leads lead us.

1192
01:02:55.080 --> 01:02:56.000
Claude Savoie and I met
at an office

1193
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.040
Claude Savoie and I met
at an office

1194
01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:03.720
at the RCMP headquarters.
And I had a two-hour conversation
with him.

1195
01:03:06.600 --> 01:03:09.320
I got the sense that he was
a little nervous,

1196
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.080
a little exasperated.

1197
01:03:14.120 --> 01:03:15.320
Under pressure.

1198
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:36.000
Well, everybody in the world
knew Allan Ross was a problem.

1199
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.040
Well, everybody in the world
knew Allan Ross was a problem.

1200
01:03:38.080 --> 01:03:42.800
And this guy is telling me
"Well, Allan Ross isn't a problem."

1201
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:44.000
Jeez. You don't even
have to be a cop to know that.

1202
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.120
Jeez. You don't even
have to be a cop to know that.

1203
01:03:47.160 --> 01:03:51.480
So if Allan Ross isn't a problem,

1204
01:03:51.520 --> 01:03:52.000
then maybe Claude Savoie
is a problem, you know?

1205
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.560
then maybe Claude Savoie
is a problem, you know?

1206
01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:00.000
'This is RCMP Inspector
Claude Savoie in late 1990

1207
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:00.560
'This is RCMP Inspector
Claude Savoie in late 1990

1208
01:04:00.600 --> 01:04:04.400
when he was head of the RCMP
drug squad in Montreal.

1209
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:08.000
He's talking about why the police
were losing ground to drug dealers.'

1210
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:08.320
He's talking about why the police
were losing ground to drug dealers.'

1211
01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:11.640
'Well, I am not sure
I can answer that question.

1212
01:04:11.680 --> 01:04:14.960
Because if I could answer
that question, we could probably
solve the problem

1213
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:16.000
and unfortunately we're not doing
a good job at solving the problem
right now.'

1214
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.160
and unfortunately we're not doing
a good job at solving the problem
right now.'

1215
01:04:18.200 --> 01:04:24.000
Not a doubt in my mind
that Claude Savoie would do anything

1216
01:04:24.040 --> 01:04:28.360
illegal or hurt the RCMP
or hurt law enforcement, period.

1217
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:31.720
He had a family
and he was just a good guy.

1218
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:32.000
We start meeting
with police sources,

1219
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.800
We start meeting
with police sources,

1220
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:38.960
who are careful,
because they are police.

1221
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:40.000
But they encourage us
to keep digging.

1222
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.360
But they encourage us
to keep digging.

1223
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:47.040
I asked Savoie about his
relationship with Leithman.

1224
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:16.480
Well, he does acknowledge
the relationship

1225
01:05:16.520 --> 01:05:19.800
with Sidney Leithman,
because that was true.

1226
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:20.000
They were strange bedfellows.

1227
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.480
They were strange bedfellows.

1228
01:05:24.080 --> 01:05:28.000
We keep digging and we find out
that Claude Savoie

1229
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:28.320
We keep digging and we find out
that Claude Savoie

1230
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:33.760
meets in a downtown restaurant
with Allan Ross and Sidney Leithman.

1231
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.000
Then we find out from a source
that right above that restaurant

1232
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.120
Then we find out from a source
that right above that restaurant

1233
01:05:39.160 --> 01:05:44.000
is Sidney Leithman's office
and Claude Savoie meets alone

1234
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:44.200
is Sidney Leithman's office
and Claude Savoie meets alone

1235
01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:45.760
with Allan Ross.

1236
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:50.240
I know the guy is not going to
confess to me, there is no way.

1237
01:05:51.160 --> 01:05:52.000
So I try to find out if he's lying,

1238
01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:55.600
So I try to find out if he's lying,

1239
01:05:55.640 --> 01:05:58.000
if I can prove that he's lying
about something.

1240
01:05:58.040 --> 01:06:00.000
And I asked him, "How many times
did you meet with Allan Ross?"

1241
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.640
And I asked him, "How many times
did you meet with Allan Ross?"

1242
01:06:02.680 --> 01:06:05.360
and he told me once.

1243
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.000
And I said to him, "Just once?"
and he said, "Yeah, just once."

1244
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:08.880
And I said to him, "Just once?"
and he said, "Yeah, just once."

1245
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:11.720
I knew it was two times,

1246
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:13.720
so he's lying.

1247
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.000
Why is he lying?
It's a symptom of corruption.

1248
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:17.920
Why is he lying?
It's a symptom of corruption.

1249
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:20.440
The lie is a symptom of corruption.

1250
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:24.000
What access to information
that gave Allan Ross!

1251
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:26.800
What access to information
that gave Allan Ross!

1252
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:28.840
That was astounding.

1253
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:30.600
I mean, I've seen
lots of corrupt cops

1254
01:06:30.640 --> 01:06:32.000
in the United States, but I've never
seen anyone at that level.

1255
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:34.600
in the United States, but I've never
seen anyone at that level.

1256
01:06:34.640 --> 01:06:36.880
That was something.
That was extraordinary.

1257
01:06:40.080 --> 01:06:42.320
Allan Ross has a base in Florida.

1258
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.720
He's got a condo down there,
he's got a yacht.

1259
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:46.480
He conducts business
down in Florida.

1260
01:06:46.520 --> 01:06:48.000
He has to know what the Americans
have on him.

1261
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.840
He has to know what the Americans
have on him.

1262
01:06:51.720 --> 01:06:55.000
But by May 1991,
Sidney Leithman gets whacked,

1263
01:06:55.040 --> 01:06:56.000
so Allan Ross doesn't have a choice.
He's gotta deal directly

1264
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.440
so Allan Ross doesn't have a choice.
He's gotta deal directly

1265
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.000
with his man inside the RCMP,
Claude Savoie.

1266
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:04.000
He is Allan Ross's friend
inside law enforcement.

1267
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.240
He is Allan Ross's friend
inside law enforcement.

1268
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:10.880
And Savoie calls out of the blue
asking us all these questions,

1269
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:12.000
and he's asking questions
he should not be asking.

1270
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.120
and he's asking questions
he should not be asking.

1271
01:07:14.160 --> 01:07:17.720
He's trying to find out information
on a grand jury indictment

1272
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:19.880
which is secret. It is sealed
by a court.

1273
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:20.000
He was trying to use his status
as a Mountie to get information

1274
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:24.160
He was trying to use his status
as a Mountie to get information

1275
01:07:24.200 --> 01:07:26.360
from federal agents in Florida.

1276
01:07:28.160 --> 01:07:32.160
Claude Savoie tells Allan Ross
the Americans are looking for him.

1277
01:07:32.200 --> 01:07:36.000
Yet Ross still goes down to Florida.
Why would he do that?

1278
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:36.840
Yet Ross still goes down to Florida.
Why would he do that?

1279
01:07:38.040 --> 01:07:39.640
He was arrogant.

1280
01:07:39.680 --> 01:07:44.000
He thought he could get away with it
because he had gotten away with it
so many times.

1281
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:44.840
He thought he could get away with it
because he had gotten away with it
so many times.

1282
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:47.680
We got our guys in Montreal
watching him to alert us

1283
01:07:47.720 --> 01:07:49.800
when he actually does come down.

1284
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:52.000
And sure enough he came to Florida.
Huge mistake.

1285
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.640
And sure enough he came to Florida.
Huge mistake.

1286
01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:00.000
'This US Marshall shows us how
on October 7th 1991,

1287
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.760
'This US Marshall shows us how
on October 7th 1991,

1288
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.760
he arrested
Canada's biggest drug baron.'

1289
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:08.000
'I came behind him like this
with my gun out here, advising him,

1290
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:09.800
'I came behind him like this
with my gun out here, advising him,

1291
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.720
"Broward Sheriff Office,
put your hands on top of your head."

1292
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:15.640
As we were just about to
the Marshal's office
where I was taking him,

1293
01:08:15.680 --> 01:08:16.000
he told me or he said to me,
"Well, it would sure be nice

1294
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.400
he told me or he said to me,
"Well, it would sure be nice

1295
01:08:19.440 --> 01:08:21.800
if I could give you like
$200,000 and you'd let me go."

1296
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:24.000
Not that I would. He said it
in a way that I couldn't get him
with bribery,

1297
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:25.360
Not that I would. He said it
in a way that I couldn't get him
with bribery,

1298
01:08:25.400 --> 01:08:29.120
but I had no doubt if I had said OK,
I'd be $200,000 richer right now.'

1299
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:32.000
The trial is one of those
classic scenes.

1300
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:33.440
The trial is one of those
classic scenes.

1301
01:08:33.480 --> 01:08:35.880
We're trying him
in a small federal court

1302
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:40.000
in Gainesville, Florida. We had
looked at Allan Ross's history
of violence

1303
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:40.120
in Gainesville, Florida. We had
looked at Allan Ross's history
of violence

1304
01:08:40.160 --> 01:08:44.240
and we brought in a special team
from the U.S. Marshall service.

1305
01:08:44.280 --> 01:08:47.280
We've got dogs, dope dogs,
bomb dogs,

1306
01:08:47.320 --> 01:08:48.000
we've got snipers
on the roof of the courthouse

1307
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.120
we've got snipers
on the roof of the courthouse

1308
01:08:50.160 --> 01:08:55.560
to make sure that he does not
interrupt this trial.

1309
01:08:58.200 --> 01:09:02.120
When you're in the courthouse
seeing a guy who is responsible

1310
01:09:02.160 --> 01:09:04.000
for ordering numerous murders
over the years,

1311
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.760
for ordering numerous murders
over the years,

1312
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.240
you sort of go in there
and you're looking for something,

1313
01:09:09.280 --> 01:09:12.000
something in the man's face
in a way that will reveal

1314
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:13.760
something in the man's face
in a way that will reveal

1315
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:18.200
this person
in his full gangster glory

1316
01:09:18.240 --> 01:09:20.000
and you're always disappointed.

1317
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:20.200
and you're always disappointed.

1318
01:09:20.240 --> 01:09:23.280
There's nothing there,
there's just nothing there.

1319
01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:28.000
'Ross was found guilty of conspiring
to import and traffic

1320
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:28.400
'Ross was found guilty of conspiring
to import and traffic

1321
01:09:28.440 --> 01:09:33.360
over 10,000 kilos of cocaine
and 300 tons of marijuana.'

1322
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:50.000
It's Monday, December 21st, 1992,

1323
01:09:50.040 --> 01:09:52.000
just a few days before Christmas,
there is snow on the ground,

1324
01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:55.000
just a few days before Christmas,
there is snow on the ground,

1325
01:09:55.040 --> 01:09:58.680
you got Santa Claus
all over the streets,

1326
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:00.000
and the lights
and the Christmas trees,

1327
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:00.880
and the lights
and the Christmas trees,

1328
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:04.560
and two internal investigators
of the RCMP show up

1329
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.000
at Ottawa headquarters.
They want to speak to Claude Savoie.

1330
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:08.960
at Ottawa headquarters.
They want to speak to Claude Savoie.

1331
01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:14.320
The RCMP knows we're going to air
on Tuesday, they know

1332
01:10:14.360 --> 01:10:16.000
what we're investigating
and on Monday morning,
of all the days in the year,

1333
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.400
what we're investigating
and on Monday morning,
of all the days in the year,

1334
01:10:18.440 --> 01:10:21.280
of all the time
they are investigating Savoie,

1335
01:10:21.320 --> 01:10:24.000
they go meet Claude Savoie
on the Monday before we go to air.

1336
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:24.480
they go meet Claude Savoie
on the Monday before we go to air.

1337
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:31.160
They go into a room and they want
Savoie to come into that room.

1338
01:10:31.200 --> 01:10:32.000
You know, the room is ready to tape,
video, the whole thing,

1339
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.240
You know, the room is ready to tape,
video, the whole thing,

1340
01:10:34.280 --> 01:10:35.280
for this interview.

1341
01:10:38.120 --> 01:10:40.000
Savoie doesn't show up.
They get a little impatient,

1342
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:41.120
Savoie doesn't show up.
They get a little impatient,

1343
01:10:41.160 --> 01:10:44.760
they walk down to his office,

1344
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:46.800
they open the door...

1345
01:10:48.200 --> 01:10:52.240
.. and they find Savoie
sprawled across his desk
with a bullet in his head.

1346
01:10:52.280 --> 01:10:54.560
He had shot himself
with his service revolver

1347
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:56.000
which he had wrapped
in the sleeve of his jacket

1348
01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.160
which he had wrapped
in the sleeve of his jacket

1349
01:10:58.200 --> 01:11:00.440
to muffle the noise.

1350
01:11:00.480 --> 01:11:02.280
And that was the end of Savoie.

1351
01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:04.000
'Savoie killed himself
shortly before he was supposed
to meet with

1352
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.240
'Savoie killed himself
shortly before he was supposed
to meet with

1353
01:11:07.280 --> 01:11:10.920
internal affairs investigators
at RCMP headquarters in Ottawa.

1354
01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:12.000
The CBC's 'The Fifth Estate'
had been preparing

1355
01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:14.440
The CBC's 'The Fifth Estate'
had been preparing

1356
01:11:14.480 --> 01:11:18.040
an investigative report
on the failures
of the Montreal drug squad.'

1357
01:11:18.080 --> 01:11:20.000
Wow. That was big news to me,

1358
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:23.800
Wow. That was big news to me,

1359
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.080
you know.
It was a hell of a development.

1360
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:28.000
At The Fifth Estate we had
an expression, "the smoking gun."

1361
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:31.560
At The Fifth Estate we had
an expression, "the smoking gun."

1362
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:36.000
Well, that might have been
the first time ever
we had a literal smoking gun.

1363
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:36.320
Well, that might have been
the first time ever
we had a literal smoking gun.

1364
01:11:40.400 --> 01:11:44.000
For you, his suicide was proof
of Claude Savoie's guilt?

1365
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:45.680
For you, his suicide was proof
of Claude Savoie's guilt?

1366
01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:51.520
Yeah, without a question. I mean,

1367
01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:52.000
obviously the guy
couldn't face the music.

1368
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.840
obviously the guy
couldn't face the music.

1369
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:57.120
And that's how it ended for him.

1370
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:00.000
You don't feel any guilt in that?
We were doing our job

1371
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.680
You don't feel any guilt in that?
We were doing our job

1372
01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:07.440
as reporters, but if you and I
hadn't started the story,

1373
01:12:07.480 --> 01:12:08.000
hadn't investigated the story,
Claude Savoie would be alive.

1374
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.360
hadn't investigated the story,
Claude Savoie would be alive.

1375
01:12:11.400 --> 01:12:13.520
Do you ever feel any guilt
about that?

1376
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:16.000
No, not at all.

1377
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:17.440
No, not at all.

1378
01:12:17.480 --> 01:12:20.600
It may seem cold-blooded, but...

1379
01:12:23.480 --> 01:12:24.000
.. yeah, I'd be faking it
if I said I felt bad about it.

1380
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:28.400
.. yeah, I'd be faking it
if I said I felt bad about it.

1381
01:12:28.440 --> 01:12:32.000
He made his own bed and, you know...
and that's how he decided
to lie in it.

1382
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.280
He made his own bed and, you know...
and that's how he decided
to lie in it.

1383
01:12:36.080 --> 01:12:38.840
He couldn't face it.
He just couldn't face it, you know?

1384
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:40.000
I was shocked at what he did.
His guilt, his guilt.

1385
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:43.880
I was shocked at what he did.
His guilt, his guilt.

1386
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:45.200
Just too much.

1387
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:48.000
Did he get money off of Leithman,
did he put other cops' lives

1388
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.080
Did he get money off of Leithman,
did he put other cops' lives

1389
01:12:50.120 --> 01:12:52.560
in danger? Obviously he did.

1390
01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:56.000
He betrayed me, because I was
a cop and a friend of his.

1391
01:12:59.080 --> 01:13:02.920
'This is how the Mounties react
to allegations of corruption

1392
01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.000
within their Montreal drug squad
and the suicide
of its former commander,

1393
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.880
within their Montreal drug squad
and the suicide
of its former commander,

1394
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:09.560
a press release saying
they are looking into the matter.

1395
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:11.000
No questions accepted.'

1396
01:13:17.320 --> 01:13:20.000
They were investigating
Claude Savoie. We didn't know that.

1397
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:21.240
They were investigating
Claude Savoie. We didn't know that.

1398
01:13:21.280 --> 01:13:24.600
And they were closing in on him

1399
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:27.040
and they were worried
about our investigation.

1400
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:33.080
'Suspicion first fell
on Inspector Savoie

1401
01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:36.000
after the May, 1991 murder
of Sidney Leithman,

1402
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:36.200
after the May, 1991 murder
of Sidney Leithman,

1403
01:13:36.240 --> 01:13:41.120
a Montreal lawyer known for
defending and socialising with
Colombian drug barons.

1404
01:13:41.160 --> 01:13:44.000
When the police go through
his clothes, in his back pocket

1405
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:45.520
When the police go through
his clothes, in his back pocket

1406
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.600
they find
a handwritten phone number...

1407
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:52.000
.. to the guy who heads
the RCMP drug squad in Montreal,

1408
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:53.120
.. to the guy who heads
the RCMP drug squad in Montreal,

1409
01:13:53.160 --> 01:13:54.600
Claude Savoie.

1410
01:14:00.480 --> 01:14:05.680
So Savoie is dead, the RCMP
continue their investigation

1411
01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:08.000
for another year, they bust into
his bank accounts,

1412
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:09.720
for another year, they bust into
his bank accounts,

1413
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:13.280
his safety deposit boxes.
They find $200,000.

1414
01:14:15.360 --> 01:14:16.000
They concluded he had been paid off
over time by the West End Gang

1415
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.680
They concluded he had been paid off
over time by the West End Gang

1416
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:20.960
for information.

1417
01:14:24.160 --> 01:14:27.120
The West End Gang felt
they were above the law.

1418
01:14:27.160 --> 01:14:31.000
They were corrupting police,
corrupting lawyers.

1419
01:14:31.040 --> 01:14:32.000
And in the process they were
corrupting the whole system.

1420
01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.000
And in the process they were
corrupting the whole system.

1421
01:14:35.040 --> 01:14:38.560
The thing with drug organisations,
it's not just the drugs,

1422
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:40.000
the major problem is the power
they get from the money.

1423
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:41.360
the major problem is the power
they get from the money.

1424
01:14:41.400 --> 01:14:44.200
These people
produced enormous amounts of money.

1425
01:14:44.240 --> 01:14:47.800
Money on this planet is power
and power corrupts.

1426
01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:56.000
A lot of the guys
who worked for Dunie Ryan are dead.

1427
01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:56.240
A lot of the guys
who worked for Dunie Ryan are dead.

1428
01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:00.280
All the guys who killed Dunie Ryan
are dead.

1429
01:15:01.280 --> 01:15:04.000
Sidney Leithman is dead, Allan Ross
is in jail in the United States.

1430
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:07.280
Sidney Leithman is dead, Allan Ross
is in jail in the United States.

1431
01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:12.000
There's been a cleansing,
a pretty bloody cleansing

1432
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.440
There's been a cleansing,
a pretty bloody cleansing

1433
01:15:13.480 --> 01:15:19.360
of the West End Gang, and the man
who rises out of that pool

1434
01:15:19.400 --> 01:15:20.000
is Gerry Matticks.

1435
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:21.120
is Gerry Matticks.

1436
01:15:22.200 --> 01:15:25.520
Either he must have felt
really lucky or he felt invincible

1437
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:28.000
and he's operating now
at the highest levels,

1438
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:29.600
and he's operating now
at the highest levels,

1439
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:33.720
he is talking to the highest people
in the Hell's Angels
and that I think was his downfall.

1440
01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:43.880
'Police fanned out
across the province,

1441
01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:44.000
swooping down and arresting
120 bikers and their associates.'

1442
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:47.440
swooping down and arresting
120 bikers and their associates.'

1443
01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:52.000
'560 police officer involved
in 70 raids across the province

1444
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:54.080
'560 police officer involved
in 70 raids across the province

1445
01:15:54.120 --> 01:15:55.880
in 24 municipalities.'

1446
01:15:57.240 --> 01:15:59.920
The police arrested
Gerry Matticks in 2001.

1447
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:06.680
'We believe with these arrests,
the West End Gang

1448
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:08.000
is mainly out of order for a while.'

1449
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.720
is mainly out of order for a while.'

1450
01:16:15.040 --> 01:16:16.000
The guys still around
that I interviewed
from the West End Gang,

1451
01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.600
The guys still around
that I interviewed
from the West End Gang,

1452
01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:20.880
they were kinda sad.
They were kinda sad,

1453
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:24.000
because a large part of their life
had been spent in prison.

1454
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:24.440
because a large part of their life
had been spent in prison.

1455
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:28.240
They were not happy people.

1456
01:16:29.120 --> 01:16:32.000
They would say, "Yeah,
that was exciting at times,

1457
01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:32.280
They would say, "Yeah,
that was exciting at times,

1458
01:16:32.320 --> 01:16:35.320
but it wasn't worth it.
It was not worth it."

1459
01:16:42.080 --> 01:16:45.600
It was a world that I think a lot of
people got messed up with.

1460
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.000
Yeah, of course.
A lot of individuals.

1461
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:48.280
Yeah, of course.
A lot of individuals.

1462
01:16:48.320 --> 01:16:50.640
It's a sad story.
A lot of sad stories.

1463
01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.240
You know, it's sad, there are
no more old guys any more.

1464
01:16:54.280 --> 01:16:56.000
They are mostly all gone.
Most of the guys are gone.

1465
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:57.840
They are mostly all gone.
Most of the guys are gone.

1466
01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:00.320
I walked away and never went back.

1467
01:17:00.360 --> 01:17:03.560
I knew that if I ever went back
I would stay there.

1468
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:08.880
I became a drug addict.

1469
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.440
But I might have become
a drug addict anyway.

1470
01:17:11.480 --> 01:17:12.000
It's been a roller-coaster,
my life. But look at me now.

1471
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.920
It's been a roller-coaster,
my life. But look at me now.

1472
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.160
I could beat the devil.

1473
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:26.240
Yeah, I did my bit, and that was
being a responsible journalist.

1474
01:17:26.280 --> 01:17:28.000
And, uh...

1475
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:28.280
And, uh...

1476
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.560
Looking at it now, I realise
there was so much violence,

1477
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:52.000
but I wasn't thinking that
when I was growing up.

1478
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:53.920
but I wasn't thinking that
when I was growing up.

1479
01:17:58.720 --> 01:17:59.720
I'm OK.

1480
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:07.720
Pursuing education
became my ticket out of poverty

1481
01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:08.000
and then I became a writer
and ended up writing two books

1482
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.000
and then I became a writer
and ended up writing two books

1483
01:18:11.040 --> 01:18:12.760
about growing up
in the neighbourhood.

1484
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.160
Some of the gang members found out
about the book

1485
01:18:19.200 --> 01:18:22.000
and were really upset
and were sending me

1486
01:18:22.040 --> 01:18:24.000
all kinds of threatening emails.
I thought, "Kiss my ass."

1487
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:25.400
all kinds of threatening emails.
I thought, "Kiss my ass."

1488
01:18:41.320 --> 01:18:45.520
Was it worth it, what I did,
was it really worth it what I did?

1489
01:18:47.080 --> 01:18:48.000
I don't think so.

1490
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:48.520
I don't think so.

1491
01:18:50.040 --> 01:18:53.800
It's worth it for some people,
if I succeeded in helping
some people,

1492
01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.000
then that's what the worth
is all about. The rest,
you won't change the system.

1493
01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.560
then that's what the worth
is all about. The rest,
you won't change the system.

1494
01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:01.520
They don't want somebody like me.

1495
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:04.000
The system doesn't give a shit
about me, you know.

1496
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.920
The system doesn't give a shit
about me, you know.

1497
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.480
That's what I think.
It doesn't care.

1498
01:19:20.360 --> 01:19:23.840
When it comes to the underworld,
this is the way the story
always ends,

1499
01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:28.000
all the people are either dead
or in prison.

1500
01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:28.800
all the people are either dead
or in prison.

1501
01:19:30.360 --> 01:19:33.440
If there was anything special
about the West End Gang,

1502
01:19:33.480 --> 01:19:36.000
it is the speed at which they rose
and the speed at which they fell.

1503
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:36.960
it is the speed at which they rose
and the speed at which they fell.

1504
01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:40.720
Through their own hubris,
through their own violence,

1505
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:44.000
they fell just as fast as they rose.

1506
01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:44.320
they fell just as fast as they rose.

1507
01:19:44.360 --> 01:19:47.840
And it happened almost overnight
in the annals of crime history.

1508
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:52.000
The West End Gang thrived
because of powerful leaders

1509
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.400
The West End Gang thrived
because of powerful leaders

1510
01:19:55.440 --> 01:19:58.840
like Dunie Ryan, Allan Ross,
Gerry Matticks.

1511
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:00.000
They needed those kinds of leaders
who had the connections,

1512
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.360
They needed those kinds of leaders
who had the connections,

1513
01:20:02.400 --> 01:20:07.120
the violence, the willingness
to do anything to hold on to power.

1514
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.080
When those leaders were gone,
you still had some Irish gangsters

1515
01:20:12.120 --> 01:20:16.000
working at the port, but they could
never recapture that old glory.

1516
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:16.520
working at the port, but they could
never recapture that old glory.

1517
01:20:24.160 --> 01:20:26.840
When you have a city that has
a major port,

1518
01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:30.800
you're always going to have
one crime gang
that's gonna rise to the top.

1519
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.000
It's just a matter of
who's the king.

1520
01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:33.360
It's just a matter of
who's the king.

1521
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:37.920
Nobody wins a whole war
in organised crime.

1522
01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:40.000
There is no winner in that.
Nothing has changed.

1523
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:41.520
There is no winner in that.
Nothing has changed.

1524
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:44.040
Nothing has changed.

1525
01:20:45.440 --> 01:20:47.840
'Most illegal drugs
coming to Canada

1526
01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:48.000
flow through Quebec.'

1527
01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:48.960
flow through Quebec.'

1528
01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:52.560
'... ce qu'il fait du port,
l'endroit ou la crime organise
est le plus actif au Quebec.'

1529
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:55.600
'Former Montreal police officers
say they found evidence

1530
01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:56.000
of police corruption
within the force

1531
01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:57.240
of police corruption
within the force

1532
01:20:57.280 --> 01:20:59.840
and tried to report it.'
'The charges are very serious,

1533
01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:02.600
gangsterism, breach of trust
and obstruction of justice.'

1534
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:04.000
'This network allegedly
imported 1.4 tonnes of cocaine.'

1535
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:07.480
'This network allegedly
imported 1.4 tonnes of cocaine.'

1536
01:21:11.360 --> 01:21:12.000
# SHANE MURPHY: 'Dirty Work'

1537
01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:13.840
# SHANE MURPHY: 'Dirty Work'

1538
01:23:02.240 --> 01:23:03.760
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