1 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:39,121 BETTY: Did the accident with the, the trial and everything 2 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:42,040 don't you think that strengthened your family feeling too? 3 00:09:42,124 --> 00:09:46,378 LUCY: Yes probably. I was too young then to step out and take care of them. 4 00:09:46,461 --> 00:09:50,674 I always, as their fortunes waned during those years 5 00:09:50,757 --> 00:09:55,595 I was very eager to make enough to take the burden off their shoulders. 6 00:14:58,940 --> 00:15:01,735 He was the king of the rhumba. 7 00:15:01,818 --> 00:15:04,613 The king of Latin music. 8 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:07,616 Now he saw me when I was 16 years old. 9 00:15:07,949 --> 00:15:11,494 And that's how I ended up in the United States of America. 10 00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:13,204 And people liked me. Thank God! 11 00:15:14,205 --> 00:15:18,168 Cugat discovered a lot of excellent talented people, 12 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:20,503 and I am one of them. 13 00:15:26,259 --> 00:15:28,053 Cugat discovered Desi. 14 00:15:28,136 --> 00:15:30,764 And he could see that he was a real dreamer. 15 00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:38,813 I met Desi because I knew Xavier Cugat. 16 00:15:38,897 --> 00:15:40,231 They have a lot in common, 17 00:15:40,315 --> 00:15:41,816 although Cugat was older. 18 00:15:42,192 --> 00:15:44,944 Because Cugat grew up also in Cuba. 19 00:15:45,028 --> 00:15:48,239 So they were, like they say in America, two peas in a pod. 20 00:15:48,323 --> 00:15:52,035 Cugat the maestro, and the student Desi. 21 00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:02,785 1... 2... 3... Kick! 22 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:04,829 1... 2... 3... Kick! 23 00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:07,457 When you have that rhythm so heavy, 24 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,585 all percussion. It goes to your bones. 25 00:24:07,321 --> 00:24:08,781 BETTY: You felt right from the beginning 26 00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:11,367 that this was going to be difficult didn't you? 27 00:24:58,331 --> 00:25:02,460 BETTY: Did she come out to Hollywood as soon as you two moved out here? 28 00:26:40,641 --> 00:26:42,977 DESI: They called her "The Queen of the B's". 29 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:46,731 In those days remember they were called the B pictures. Smaller budgets. 30 00:26:48,691 --> 00:26:50,568 REPORTER: Were you envious of her success? 31 00:26:50,651 --> 00:26:57,325 No not at all. But I couldn't stay out here and just, don't do anything. 32 00:34:06,086 --> 00:34:07,755 BETTY: How did you feel? 33 00:35:12,319 --> 00:35:13,737 BETTY: Do you think being in vaudeville 34 00:35:13,821 --> 00:35:16,865 had anything to do with you losing the baby? 35 00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:21,745 LUCY: I don't know. 36 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,488 BETTY: Did you enjoy changing the baby and bathing it? 37 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,450 DESI: In 48 hours we lost everything we had. Everything. 38 00:56:51,534 --> 00:56:55,621 They put all the congressmen in jail. All the mayors. All the governors. 39 00:56:55,704 --> 00:56:57,665 Everybody was in the can. 40 00:56:57,748 --> 00:57:00,251 And my dad was there for 6 months. 41 01:05:12,367 --> 01:05:15,704 BETTY: And what happened after you sold the reruns for 5 million? 42 01:05:15,787 --> 01:05:18,457 Why didn't he retire right then and there? 43 01:05:27,633 --> 01:05:29,217 DESI: She didn't want to quit. 44 01:05:29,301 --> 01:05:31,178 She'll never want to quit. 45 01:05:31,511 --> 01:05:34,264 Why doesn't Bob Hope quit? Or Jack Benny? 46 01:05:34,348 --> 01:05:36,892 Like Hope says, he gets bored fishing 47 01:05:36,975 --> 01:05:39,728 because he can't get a laugh from the fish. 48 01:05:39,811 --> 01:05:42,856 That's... I'm not judging. 49 01:05:42,939 --> 01:05:45,525 Because that's their life and they enjoy that. 50 01:05:45,609 --> 01:05:51,239 I happen to like other things, besides being in front of an audience. 51 01:07:25,167 --> 01:07:27,836 DESI: When the opportunity came to buy RKO, I bought RKO. 52 01:07:27,919 --> 01:07:29,504 Not because I wanted RKO. 53 01:07:29,588 --> 01:07:32,799 But I had only two choices. Either quit or get bigger. 54 01:07:32,883 --> 01:07:35,844 That is the way business is in the United States. 55 01:07:35,927 --> 01:07:38,472 You cannot be half-assed successful. 56 01:08:16,927 --> 01:08:19,262 DESI: I was at that place at 8 o'clock in the morning, 57 01:08:19,346 --> 01:08:21,598 and I had all my calls to New York, 58 01:08:21,681 --> 01:08:25,977 and I don't think I ever left the place before 10 or 11 o'clock at night. 59 01:09:26,413 --> 01:09:28,582 DESI: I got a one track mind. 60 01:09:28,665 --> 01:09:33,044 The biggest fault in my life is that I never learned moderation. 61 01:09:34,796 --> 01:09:37,924 I either work too hard or I play too hard. 62 01:09:38,008 --> 01:09:40,719 If I drank, I drank too much. If I worked, I worked too much. 63 01:09:40,802 --> 01:09:44,848 I don't know. One of the greatest virtues in the world is moderation. 64 01:09:44,931 --> 01:09:47,976 That's the one I could never learn. 65 01:09:56,401 --> 01:09:58,987 BETTY: This was the New York psychiatrist? 66 01:10:07,704 --> 01:10:10,832 Did you feel like you got anything out of it yourself? 67 01:10:10,916 --> 01:10:12,918 Did you get any insight into yourself? 68 01:10:18,298 --> 01:10:20,175 You decided it wasn't your fault? 69 01:11:13,019 --> 01:11:14,854 DESI: I was the one who wanted out. 70 01:11:14,938 --> 01:11:17,440 I brought it up and I, and I laid it. 71 01:11:17,524 --> 01:11:22,028 And I laid the plan for months ahead of time so it would work. 72 01:11:22,779 --> 01:11:24,823 Because I didn't want any part of it anymore. 73 01:11:24,906 --> 01:11:28,702 I just made up my mind I couldn't live anymore, that way. 74 01:12:06,114 --> 01:12:08,450 BETTY: Well weren't you rather weepy on that last show? 75 01:12:18,877 --> 01:12:22,505 You probably thought there would never by any more didn't you? 76 01:15:56,386 --> 01:15:58,388 DESI: I hated every minute of it... 77 01:15:58,471 --> 01:15:59,847 ...after a while. 78 01:20:35,540 --> 01:20:39,377 DESI: Oh goddamn! We're giving the minorities a break this week huh? 79 01:20:40,211 --> 01:20:41,546 Jesus Christ! 80 01:20:42,129 --> 01:20:44,382 The minorities are working this week huh? 81 01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:49,715 BETTY: Now isn't your job unique in the whole world right now? 82 01:22:49,799 --> 01:22:54,512 Aren't you the only woman who's the head of a corporation as big as Desilu? 83 01:23:51,277 --> 01:23:53,237 We're bringing it in to the very limit. 84 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,572 And there is no- 85 01:23:54,655 --> 01:23:57,825 I don't know how to light a scene without lights. 86 01:23:57,908 --> 01:23:59,326 Period.