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[Olivia Rodrigo] How would I describe
this chapter of my life?

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[screams]

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[on radio]
♪ I got my driver's license last week ♪

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♪ Just like we always talked about ♪

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Oh, my God.

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It's on the radio.

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It's on the radio.

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♪ To finally drive up to your house ♪

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[radio deejay] You're listening
to the most popular song on the planet.

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It's "drivers license" by Olivia Rodrigo.

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♪ You weren't around-- ♪

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It's been the absolute craziest week
of my life.

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Wait,
so you're second semester senior year,

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and you just released your first single?

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Yeah, first semester. Yep.
Not even second.

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I'm like dying over here.

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Oh! For those of you just joining, I just
put out a song called "drivers license."

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It's my first debut-- What do we call it?
Debut single?

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This is, like, the first song that I wrote
from my perspective that is coming out.

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It's number one in the world
on, like, all streaming platforms

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and, like, breaking all these records.

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My entire life just shifted in an instant.

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My life is just so weird. Like, I don't--

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Like, I moved out of my house.
I'm, like, not living with my parents.

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My album's done.
I'm almost done with high school.

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So weird.
It's all, like, happening at once.

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[audio rewinds]

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-[tape clicks]
-[audio stops]

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Hi, I'm Olivia Rodrigo…

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from California.

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I just want to sing a little song
to my friends and family out there.

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Starting now.

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[film projector whirring]

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[Rodrigo]
Being in Salt Lake makes me think so much

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about the early days
when I first started writing Sour.

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I've always loved writing
really emotional songs.

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Like, I remember just writing these, like,
super angsty songs

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about, like, how I didn't fit into society
or something. [chuckles]

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I've always been so attracted
to music like that,

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that, like, hits these, like, deep parts
of the human psyche.

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I think being a songwriter is actually,
like, the best job and the best craft.

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There's nothing that connects people

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and there's nothing that is a truer window
into human emotion than music.

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[keyboard playing]

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["happier" playing]

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♪ We broke up a month ago ♪

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♪ Your friends are mine ♪

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♪ You know I know
You've moved on ♪

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♪ Found someone new ♪

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♪ One more girl
Who brings out the better in you ♪

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♪ And I thought my heart was detached ♪

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♪ From all the sunlight of our past ♪

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♪ But she's so sweet
She's so pretty ♪

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♪ Does she mean you forgot about me? ♪

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♪ Oh, I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ Just not like how you were with me ♪

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♪ I'm selfish, I know
I can't let you go ♪

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♪ So find someone great
But don't find no one better ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy
But don't be happier ♪

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♪ Do you tell her ♪

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♪ She's the most beautiful girl
You've ever seen? ♪

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♪ An eternal love bullshit
You know you'll never mean ♪

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♪ Remember when I believed ♪

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♪ You meant it
When you said it first to me? ♪

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♪ And now I'm picking her apart ♪

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♪ Like cutting her down
Will make you miss my wretched heart ♪

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♪ She's beautiful
She looks kind ♪

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♪ She probably gives you butterflies ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ Just not like how you were with me ♪

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♪ I'm selfish, I know
I can't let you go ♪

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♪ So find someone great
But don't find no one better ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ I wish you all the best, really ♪

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♪ Say you love her, baby
Not like you loved me ♪

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♪ And think of me fondly
When your hands are on her ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy
But don't be happier ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ Just not like how you were with me ♪

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♪ I'm selfish, I know
I can't let you go ♪

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♪ So find someone great
But don't find no one better ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy
Just don't be happier ♪

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[song ends]

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[Rodrigo] So much of the album was written
between Salt Lake City and Los Angeles.

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And so I thought it would be fun
to do a road trip one last time.

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I wanna play the songs in these places
that meant so much to me,

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and revisit them with older eyes, I guess.

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I remember posting
the song "happier" online

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and looking back on it and being like,
"Oh, my God. This song is terrible.

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It got no likes. I sang it really badly.
Why did I do that?"

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But I had this, like,
gut feeling to keep it up.

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That feeling served me well, 'cause
that song changed everything for me.

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The fact that I posted it
was the reason that I met Dan

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'cause he found it and was like,

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"Oh, my God. I love this song.
We should work together."

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That was the first song that
we produced together, was-- was "happier."

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Then I made the rest of my album with Dan.

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There you go. It's on.
I just did it wrong.

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[Nigro] I don't think that one's on.

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[camera beeps]

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[vocalizing]

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[Nigro chuckles] Yes.

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-[Rodrigo] What's that?
-The very first song we wrote together.

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I don't wanna hear it.
I literally don't wanna hear it.

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What is it?

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[on speaker] ♪ Crying in the parking lot ♪

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-[Rodrigo screams]
-[chuckles]

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♪ You don't know what you want ♪

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[Rodrigo] Sad Olivia! I was so sad!

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♪ Gave you everything ♪

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-♪ I guess everything ain't enough ♪
-[Rodrigo] Aw!

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♪ You say you lost your best friend
How do you think I feel? ♪

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♪ You say it's over again
And this time it's real ♪

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-[song ends]
-[Nigro] Oh!

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[Rodrigo] Oh, my God. I was so sad.
You don't know--

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I was so sad when I wrote that song.

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-Oh, my God.
-You were sad.

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I remember that day. I was so **** sad.

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-Really?
-Yeah.

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-Wow. Interesting.
-It was a long time ago.

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It was a long-- It was almost a year ago.

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-I know.
-It's crazy.

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-And I'm still not over it. Geez.
-[Nigro laughs]

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[Rodrigo] This relationship was definitely
like the heartbreak that kept on giving.

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[laughs] It was like I was
in the situation where I had to see him.

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He was with someone else, which was…
[scoffs] …like, devastating to me.

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Felt like my world was ending
almost every day.

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Nobody understood how I was feeling
or related to it.

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And so I think by writing songs
about exactly how I felt,

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I was creating, like, a friend for me.

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"jealousy, jealousy" was
the second song I wrote for the album.

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And I remember writing it in a time

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where I was just so obsessed
with social media in a very negative way,

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and I hated the way it made me feel.

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And I always felt misrepresented.

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It's hard because it's, like--

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Definitely will make you think about
how you wanna be perceived all the time.

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You want people to look at you
for your talent and skill,

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and you're also, you know, 18.

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I want people to think I'm, like, pretty
and cool… [chuckles]

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…and funny or whatever.

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If you find yourself thinking
about that too much,

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I think you get so disillusioned
from real life

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and nothing good can come of that.

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["jealousy, jealousy" playing]

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♪ I kinda wanna throw my phone
Across the room ♪

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♪ 'Cause all I see are girls
Too good to be true ♪

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♪ With paper-white teeth
And perfect bodies ♪

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♪ Wish I didn't care ♪

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♪ I know their beauty's not my lack ♪

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♪ But it feels like that weight
Is on my back ♪

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♪ And I can't let it go ♪

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♪ Co-comparison
Is killing me slowly ♪

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♪ I think I think too much ♪

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♪ 'Bout kids who don't know me ♪

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♪ I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ I'd rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ My jealousy, jealousy
Started following me ♪

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♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

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-♪ Started following me ♪
-♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

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♪ And I see everyone
Getting all the things I want ♪

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♪ And I'm happy for them
But then again I'm not ♪

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♪ Just cool vintage clothes
And vacation photos ♪

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♪ I can't stand it
God, I sound crazy ♪

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♪ Their win is not my loss ♪

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♪ Yeah, I know it's true
But I can't help getting caught ♪

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♪ Up in it all, yeah ♪

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♪ Co-comparison
Is killing me slowly ♪

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♪ I think I think too much ♪

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♪ 'Bout kids who don't know me ♪

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♪ And I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ I'd rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ My jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ All your friends are so cool ♪

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♪ You go out every night
In your daddy's nice car ♪

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♪ Yeah, you're living the life ♪

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♪ Got a pretty face
A pretty boyfriend too ♪

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♪ I wanna be you so bad
And I don't even know you ♪

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♪ All I see is what I should be ♪

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♪ Happier, prettier, jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ All I see is what I should be ♪

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♪ I'm losing it
All I get's jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ Co-comparison
Is killing me slowly ♪

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♪ I think I think too much ♪

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♪ 'Bout kids who don't know me ♪

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♪ And I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ Rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ Jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ Oh, I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ I'd rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ Jealousy, jealousy
Started following me ♪

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[song ends]

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["1 step forward, 3 steps back" playing]

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♪ I called you on the phone today ♪

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♪ Just to ask you how you were ♪

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♪ All I did was speak normally ♪

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♪ Somehow I still struck a nerve ♪

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♪ You got me **** up in the head, boy ♪

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♪ Never doubted myself so much ♪

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♪ Am I pretty, am I fun, boy? ♪

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♪ I hate that I give you power
Over that stuff ♪

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♪ 'Cause it's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ I'm the love of your life
Until I make you mad ♪

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♪ Yeah, it's one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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I'm hitting all the wrong keys.

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[on phone] ♪ I'm an angel and the devil
But you're always a good man ♪

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♪ Yeah, you're always the good man ♪

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Those old lyrics. [laughs]

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I-- I just wrote this song actually
the day before this guy broke up with me.

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[laughs] So I remember, like--

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I remember not being able to listen
to it for a while. [laughs]

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[Rodrigo] "1 step forward, 3 steps back"
I wrote it in the car

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on my way to Salt Lake City
with my mom. [chuckles]

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I think loving someone
who is so inconsistent is so challenging

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and just really anxiety-inducing
and makes you feel so insecure.

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And it's a really tough thing to feel like
you're walking on eggshells around someone

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who you just want, you know,
validation and love and support from.

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You feel like you can never really settle
into that feeling

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of being, like, loved and accepted.

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[guitar plays]

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♪ 'Cause it's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ I'm the love of your life
Until I make you mad ♪

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♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ Do you love me, want me, hate me
Boy, I don't understand ♪

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♪ No, I don't understand ♪

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♪ And maybe in some masochistic way ♪

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♪ I kind of find it all exciting ♪

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♪ Like, which lover will I get today? ♪

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♪ Will you walk me to the door
Or send me home crying? ♪

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♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ I'm the love of your life
Until I make you mad ♪

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♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ Do you love me, want me, hate me
Boy, I don't understand ♪

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00:17:02,564 --> 00:17:08,778
♪ No, it's back and forth
Did I say something wrong? ♪

237
00:17:08,862 --> 00:17:14,617
♪ It's back and forth
Going over everything I said ♪

238
00:17:14,701 --> 00:17:19,914
♪ It's back and forth
Did I do something wrong? ♪

239
00:17:19,998 --> 00:17:25,962
♪ It's back and forth
Maybe this is all your fault instead ♪

240
00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:30,967
♪ It's one step forward
And three steps back ♪

241
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,345
♪ And I'd leave you ♪

242
00:17:33,428 --> 00:17:37,807
♪ But the roller coaster's
All I've ever had ♪

243
00:17:37,891 --> 00:17:44,356
♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

244
00:17:44,439 --> 00:17:50,111
♪ Do you love me, want me, hate me
Boy, I don't understand ♪

245
00:17:50,195 --> 00:17:53,114
♪ No, I don't understand ♪

246
00:17:53,198 --> 00:17:54,282
[song ends]

247
00:18:01,831 --> 00:18:04,501
July 13th, 2020.

248
00:18:05,543 --> 00:18:09,422
"I got my driver's license today.
A very highly anticipated achievement.

249
00:18:09,506 --> 00:18:11,966
All my relatives called
to congratulate me.

250
00:18:12,050 --> 00:18:15,220
I realized part of the reason
I wanted to get my license so bad

251
00:18:15,303 --> 00:18:17,931
was because of this boy.

252
00:18:18,014 --> 00:18:20,809
I always felt bad about being too young
to drive over to see him,

253
00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:22,644
too young to have any real freedom.

254
00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:25,063
I thought he should be
with a girl who had those liberties.

255
00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:28,692
I feel his hold on me loosen more
and more lately. That's a lovely feeling.

256
00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:32,195
I'm still very much not able to fall
for anyone else though.

257
00:18:32,278 --> 00:18:34,280
I can't even fathom it at the moment."

258
00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,870
I remember knowing
that it might be something special,

259
00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:42,622
if not to anyone else, just to me,

260
00:18:42,706 --> 00:18:47,669
'cause I felt like that song
just really captured devastation

261
00:18:47,752 --> 00:18:50,088
in a way
that I hadn't been able to capture before.

262
00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:52,882
Second verse, it's the--

263
00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:57,512
♪ Today I drove through the suburbs
And pictured I was driving home to you ♪

264
00:18:58,013 --> 00:19:00,807
And that line can very literally be, like,

265
00:19:00,890 --> 00:19:03,309
I was driving home, like,
to your house or whatever.

266
00:19:03,393 --> 00:19:06,563
But I remember at that time I was really,
like, reconciling with the fact

267
00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:08,732
that sometimes,
when you love a person so much

268
00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:11,151
and you spend so much time with them,

269
00:19:11,234 --> 00:19:13,570
like, that's who you feel the most
at home with.

270
00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:17,073
And I remember listening to that song,
even when I hadn't put it out,

271
00:19:17,157 --> 00:19:20,618
when I just had the demo on my phone,
and I'd drive around and listen to it.

272
00:19:20,702 --> 00:19:22,579
Every time it came on,
my stomach would drop

273
00:19:22,662 --> 00:19:24,164
just 'cause I felt like it was so…

274
00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:29,044
like, so acutely, like, how I was feeling.

275
00:19:32,714 --> 00:19:38,386
I think the worst part of being in love
is having something to lose.

276
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:39,721
Oh, that's a great answer.

277
00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:42,474
-I-- I feel that way all the time.
-That's a great answer.

278
00:19:42,557 --> 00:19:45,977
Even just in all aspects of my life,
like, even with my career, I'm like,

279
00:19:46,061 --> 00:19:48,521
"Oh, my God, I'm so grateful
for all of these things happening."

280
00:19:48,605 --> 00:19:50,774
But, like, when you have something
that's so amazing,

281
00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:52,984
like, it just feels kind of scary
'cause it's like,

282
00:19:53,068 --> 00:19:54,778
"What happens if-- if that goes away?"

283
00:19:54,861 --> 00:19:57,238
[Collier] How do you take something
that happens in your life--

284
00:19:57,322 --> 00:19:59,532
It could be really good or really intense.

285
00:19:59,616 --> 00:20:02,160
And how do you transform that
into something like a song?

286
00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:06,456
I don't know. For me and, like,
my style of songwriting and music is

287
00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:10,210
sometimes it gets a little overwhelming.

288
00:20:10,293 --> 00:20:13,046
I think that sometimes storytelling
doesn't necessarily have to come

289
00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:14,964
-from a place of devastation.
-Yes.

290
00:20:15,048 --> 00:20:17,300
Which is what I'm trying to tell myself
for the rest of my career.

291
00:20:17,384 --> 00:20:19,928
I'm terrified that since I'm not gonna be
devastated for the rest of my life,

292
00:20:20,011 --> 00:20:22,180
-I'm no longer gonna make a good album.
-What's your inspiration?

293
00:20:22,263 --> 00:20:23,515
-Yeah, exactly.
-Yeah, yeah.

294
00:20:23,598 --> 00:20:28,311
[Collier] I don't know if I've ever heard
a song that really encapsulates that more

295
00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:29,646
than "drivers license."

296
00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,898
And it just feels like
you're living that out.

297
00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:33,483
[Rodrigo] Mmm. Thank you.

298
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,402
[Collier] In a good and painful way.

299
00:20:36,027 --> 00:20:36,945
[keyboard playing]

300
00:20:37,028 --> 00:20:43,410
♪ I got my driver's license last week
Something we always talked about ♪

301
00:20:43,493 --> 00:20:49,916
♪ 'Cause you were so excited for me
To finally drive up to your house ♪

302
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:56,965
♪ But today I drove through the suburbs
Crying 'cause you weren't around ♪

303
00:20:57,048 --> 00:21:00,719
["drivers license" continues playing]

304
00:21:00,802 --> 00:21:03,930
[Rodrigo] I think I'm still as innocent
as I was when "drivers license" came out.

305
00:21:04,014 --> 00:21:06,474
♪ Probably with that brunette girl ♪

306
00:21:06,558 --> 00:21:08,393
♪ The one I always thought about ♪

307
00:21:08,476 --> 00:21:11,229
I don't know. Maybe I--
Maybe I am, like, a little hardened now.

308
00:21:11,312 --> 00:21:15,859
♪ She's so much older than me
She's everything I'm insecure about ♪

309
00:21:15,942 --> 00:21:19,612
I don't know. I think, like, to my core
I'm still the same person.

310
00:21:19,696 --> 00:21:25,035
I'm still sensitive and emotional
and caring, hopefully.

311
00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:28,872
So much has happened,
making life completely different now.

312
00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:30,415
It's, like, weird to think about.

313
00:21:30,498 --> 00:21:34,002
♪ But I've never felt this way
For no one ♪

314
00:21:38,673 --> 00:21:40,258
But I think I'll always write songs.

315
00:21:40,342 --> 00:21:43,053
I think it's, like, my form of expression

316
00:21:43,136 --> 00:21:47,766
and my way of, you know,
making sense of the world.

317
00:21:52,812 --> 00:21:56,107
♪ Just tell me that you really meant ♪

318
00:21:56,191 --> 00:22:01,654
♪ The words you wrote about me
In that song ♪

319
00:22:09,537 --> 00:22:10,538
[song ends]

320
00:22:11,122 --> 00:22:13,208
-["drivers license" playing]
-[Rodrigo] Okay. Here it is.

321
00:22:13,792 --> 00:22:19,923
♪ And all my friends are tired
Of hearing how much I miss you ♪

322
00:22:20,006 --> 00:22:22,884
♪ I kinda feel sorry for them ♪

323
00:22:22,967 --> 00:22:26,054
♪ 'Cause they'll never know you
The way that I do ♪

324
00:22:26,137 --> 00:22:29,724
♪ Yeah
Today I drove through the suburbs ♪

325
00:22:29,808 --> 00:22:34,813
♪ And pictured I was driving home to you ♪

326
00:22:36,481 --> 00:22:42,779
♪ And I know we weren't perfect
But I've never felt this way ♪

327
00:22:42,862 --> 00:22:44,531
♪ For no one ♪

328
00:22:46,074 --> 00:22:52,414
♪ And I just can't imagine
How you could be so okay ♪

329
00:22:52,497 --> 00:22:55,500
♪ Now that I'm gone ♪

330
00:22:56,292 --> 00:23:02,424
♪ I guess you didn't mean
What you wrote in that song about me ♪

331
00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:08,096
♪ 'Cause you said forever
Now I drive alone past your street ♪

332
00:23:09,514 --> 00:23:13,101
♪ Red lights
Stop signs ♪

333
00:23:13,184 --> 00:23:15,687
♪ I still see your face ♪

334
00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:18,106
♪ In the white cars ♪

335
00:23:18,189 --> 00:23:19,816
♪ Front yards ♪

336
00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:22,777
♪ Can't drive past the places ♪

337
00:23:22,861 --> 00:23:26,322
♪ We used to
Go to ♪

338
00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:30,869
♪ 'Cause I still **** love you, babe ♪

339
00:23:30,952 --> 00:23:36,332
♪ Ooh, ooh ♪

340
00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:39,377
♪ Sidewalks
We crossed ♪

341
00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:42,422
♪ I still hear your voice ♪

342
00:23:42,505 --> 00:23:46,509
♪ In the traffic
We're laughing ♪

343
00:23:46,593 --> 00:23:49,095
♪ Over all the noise ♪

344
00:23:49,179 --> 00:23:53,141
♪ God, I'm so blue
Know we're through ♪

345
00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:57,729
♪ But I still **** love you, babe ♪

346
00:23:57,812 --> 00:24:02,776
♪ Ooh, ooh ♪

347
00:24:02,859 --> 00:24:06,321
[Rodrigo, crowd]
♪ And I know we weren't perfect ♪

348
00:24:06,404 --> 00:24:09,574
♪ But I've never felt this way ♪

349
00:24:09,657 --> 00:24:11,242
♪ For no one ♪

350
00:24:11,326 --> 00:24:13,370
-[crowd cheers]
-[Rodrigo] Sing it!

351
00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:19,584
[crowd] ♪ And I just can't imagine
How you could be so okay ♪

352
00:24:19,668 --> 00:24:22,170
♪ Now that I'm gone ♪

353
00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:24,964
[Rodrigo, crowd]
♪ I guess you didn't mean ♪

354
00:24:25,048 --> 00:24:29,386
♪ What you wrote in that song about me ♪

355
00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:36,559
♪ 'Cause you said forever
Now I drive alone past your street ♪

356
00:24:36,643 --> 00:24:38,311
[crowd cheers]

357
00:24:38,395 --> 00:24:40,397
[Rodrigo, crowd]
♪ Yeah, you said forever ♪

358
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,902
♪ Now I drive alone past your street ♪

359
00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:47,737
-[song ends]
-[crowd cheers]

360
00:24:51,282 --> 00:24:52,992
-[tape clicks]
-[cheering fades]

361
00:24:55,453 --> 00:24:58,498
[Rodrigo] The success of "drivers license"
changed everything.

362
00:24:59,416 --> 00:25:03,211
I went from performing it alone
in my bedroom or in the studio with Dan

363
00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:07,382
to performing it live in these super high-
stakes environments for the first time.

364
00:25:08,216 --> 00:25:09,426
It was very intense.

365
00:25:18,977 --> 00:25:21,438
Having a big song like that,
you put it out and you're also like,

366
00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:22,647
"Oh, my God, this is amazing."

367
00:25:22,731 --> 00:25:26,109
And then everyone's like, "What's next?
Can you follow it up? What's coming next?"

368
00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:29,320
And you're like,
"Jesus, like… [chuckles] …I just did this.

369
00:25:29,404 --> 00:25:31,489
Like, can-- can't this be enough?"

370
00:25:32,157 --> 00:25:35,368
Did we talk about making an album?
Did I run that by you?

371
00:25:35,452 --> 00:25:36,870
-No. No, you didn't.
-No?

372
00:25:36,953 --> 00:25:39,039
You didn't talk to me about it.
You just, like, literally--

373
00:25:39,122 --> 00:25:41,332
I just was like, "I'm making an album.
You wanna do it, Dan?"

374
00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:43,585
It was just like, "Hey, we're going.
We're making an album."

375
00:25:43,668 --> 00:25:48,048
I remember you called me stressed out
in Salt Lake City one day.

376
00:25:48,131 --> 00:25:50,258
And you were just like,
"You gotta come here now."

377
00:25:50,342 --> 00:25:53,303
And I was like, "Oh, okay.
All right. Let's go. Let's do it."

378
00:25:53,386 --> 00:25:56,890
I probably made the call to my label
that I wanted to make an album

379
00:25:56,973 --> 00:25:58,683
like a week
after "drivers license" came out.

380
00:25:58,767 --> 00:26:02,771
I was like, "Oh, shoot. Like,
there are gonna be so many more people

381
00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:05,815
that are listening to this music
than I initially thought.

382
00:26:05,899 --> 00:26:07,650
And I really wanna put
my best foot forward."

383
00:26:07,734 --> 00:26:09,944
Made the call, and they were all,
"I don't know about that."

384
00:26:10,028 --> 00:26:12,947
But I was, like,
so dead set and determined.

385
00:26:13,031 --> 00:26:19,746
♪ So, when you gonna tell her
That we did that too? ♪

386
00:26:19,829 --> 00:26:23,583
♪ She thinks it's special ♪

387
00:26:24,084 --> 00:26:26,086
♪ But it's all reused ♪

388
00:26:26,169 --> 00:26:29,255
♪ That was our place
I found it first ♪

389
00:26:29,339 --> 00:26:32,384
♪ I made the jokes
You tell to her ♪

390
00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:38,306
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

391
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:44,104
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

392
00:26:44,187 --> 00:26:47,190
In this album,
and in "deja vu" in particular,

393
00:26:47,273 --> 00:26:50,402
I'm, like, very obsessed
and, like, weirded out

394
00:26:50,485 --> 00:26:53,571
with the idea of all relationships
just being so recycled.

395
00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:56,991
'Cause I think I was just learning about
relationships and love for the first time.

396
00:26:57,075 --> 00:26:59,202
And I was, "Wait, none of it is special.

397
00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:00,954
Like, it happens over and over and over."

398
00:27:02,622 --> 00:27:04,874
When Dan and I wrote "deja vu" together,

399
00:27:04,958 --> 00:27:09,546
we really wanted to write a song
that was really vivid and specific.

400
00:27:09,629 --> 00:27:11,506
And I think
"deja vu" really accomplishes that.

401
00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,384
Especially in the verses.
Really paints a picture.

402
00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:17,512
And I think specificity
and also authenticity

403
00:27:17,595 --> 00:27:20,098
are my two favorite things
that a song can have.

404
00:27:20,181 --> 00:27:22,392
And I learned that
from country music, I think.

405
00:27:22,475 --> 00:27:25,020
I think country music songs are always
very specific and authentic,

406
00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:27,689
and I think that's why they're
so heartbreaking sometimes.

407
00:27:27,772 --> 00:27:29,983
If I write a song
and it doesn't have those things,

408
00:27:30,066 --> 00:27:31,860
I generally don't really love it.

409
00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:41,619
I, to be completely honest,

410
00:27:41,703 --> 00:27:43,913
did not wanna put this song out
after "drivers license."

411
00:27:43,997 --> 00:27:46,332
I remember thinking it was a bad song,

412
00:27:46,416 --> 00:27:49,044
and I didn't like it,
and no one's going to like it.

413
00:27:49,544 --> 00:27:53,965
And I remember, like, calling my manager
like three, four days

414
00:27:54,049 --> 00:27:57,010
before we announced "deja vu"
was coming out and being like,

415
00:27:57,093 --> 00:27:59,929
"Pull the plug. I don't want to do it.
I can't do it. I hate it."

416
00:28:00,013 --> 00:28:01,306
I like the song now,

417
00:28:01,389 --> 00:28:04,642
but "drivers license" was obviously
so well received.

418
00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:08,438
The thought of coming out
with another song, that was fairly scary.

419
00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:11,191
"deja vu" was a completely different song
than "drivers license" too,

420
00:28:11,274 --> 00:28:12,525
in every single way.

421
00:28:13,068 --> 00:28:17,697
There was so much drama that was
around "drivers license" and so much hate.

422
00:28:17,781 --> 00:28:19,741
I, like, thought if I put this song out,

423
00:28:19,824 --> 00:28:25,080
then I was also, like, playing into this,
like, drama, love triangle,

424
00:28:25,163 --> 00:28:28,333
like, "let's hate on other girls" thing,
and I just did not wanna do that.

425
00:28:28,416 --> 00:28:31,878
And that was-- I never write any
of my songs from that point of view

426
00:28:31,961 --> 00:28:33,588
'cause that's not something that I feel.

427
00:28:33,672 --> 00:28:36,299
I feel like I've given so many notes.
It's just the same notes.

428
00:28:36,383 --> 00:28:38,718
Just in my head about it.
I'm just always gonna find things.

429
00:28:38,802 --> 00:28:40,595
I need to pull the trigger and do it.

430
00:28:40,679 --> 00:28:43,390
[Morris on phone] If it makes you
feel any better, I am the same way.

431
00:28:43,473 --> 00:28:45,308
-Yeah.
-Every time I listen to "drivers license,"

432
00:28:45,392 --> 00:28:48,561
-I'm like, "No, I should have done this!"
-[Rodrigo chuckles]

433
00:28:48,645 --> 00:28:51,356
Blah, blah, blah. But it's
the biggest **** song in the world.

434
00:28:51,439 --> 00:28:52,482
-Yeah.
-Everybody loves it,

435
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,192
and nobody hears anything wrong with it.

436
00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:55,443
-Yeah.
-So…

437
00:28:55,527 --> 00:28:56,569
Yes.

438
00:29:02,992 --> 00:29:04,994
["deja vu" playing]

439
00:29:13,461 --> 00:29:17,590
♪ Car rides to Malibu ♪

440
00:29:17,674 --> 00:29:21,177
♪ Strawberry ice cream ♪

441
00:29:21,261 --> 00:29:23,138
♪ One spoon for two ♪

442
00:29:23,221 --> 00:29:26,725
♪ And trading jackets ♪

443
00:29:26,808 --> 00:29:30,437
♪ Laughing 'bout
How small it looks on you ♪

444
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,691
[backing singers] ♪ Ha-ha-ha-ha
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha ♪

445
00:29:34,774 --> 00:29:39,029
♪ Watching reruns of Glee ♪

446
00:29:39,112 --> 00:29:41,990
♪ Being annoying ♪

447
00:29:42,073 --> 00:29:44,242
♪ Singing in harmony ♪

448
00:29:44,325 --> 00:29:47,829
♪ I bet she's bragging ♪

449
00:29:47,912 --> 00:29:51,166
♪ To all her friends
Saying you're so unique ♪

450
00:29:54,336 --> 00:30:00,091
♪ So when you gonna tell her
That we did that too? ♪

451
00:30:00,175 --> 00:30:05,597
♪ She thinks it's special
But it's all reused ♪

452
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,266
♪ That was our place
I found it first ♪

453
00:30:08,350 --> 00:30:10,810
♪ I made the jokes
You tell to her ♪

454
00:30:10,894 --> 00:30:16,232
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

455
00:30:16,316 --> 00:30:21,780
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

456
00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:22,947
♪ Oh ♪

457
00:30:24,949 --> 00:30:28,078
♪ Do you get déjà vu?
Oh ♪

458
00:30:37,545 --> 00:30:42,592
♪ Do you call her
And almost say my name ♪

459
00:30:42,676 --> 00:30:47,847
♪ 'Cause let's be honest
We kinda do sound the same ♪

460
00:30:47,931 --> 00:30:51,184
♪ Another actress ♪

461
00:30:51,267 --> 00:30:54,854
♪ Well, I hate to think
That I was just your type ♪

462
00:30:58,149 --> 00:31:04,364
♪ And I'll bet that she knows Billy Joel
'Cause you played her "Uptown Girl" ♪

463
00:31:04,447 --> 00:31:07,033
♪ You're singing it together now ♪

464
00:31:07,117 --> 00:31:12,622
♪ I bet you even tell her how
You love her ♪

465
00:31:12,706 --> 00:31:16,126
♪ In between the chorus and the verse ♪

466
00:31:19,004 --> 00:31:24,676
♪ So when you gonna tell her
That we did that too? ♪

467
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:30,140
♪ She thinks it's special
But it's all reused ♪

468
00:31:30,223 --> 00:31:32,559
♪ That was the show
We talked about ♪

469
00:31:32,642 --> 00:31:35,437
♪ Played you the song
She's singing now ♪

470
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,817
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

471
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:46,322
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

472
00:31:46,406 --> 00:31:47,490
♪ Oh ♪

473
00:31:49,576 --> 00:31:51,619
♪ Do you get déjà vu? ♪

474
00:31:51,703 --> 00:31:54,914
[on radio]
♪ Strawberry ice cream in Malibu ♪

475
00:31:54,998 --> 00:31:57,667
♪ Don't act like
We didn't do that shit too ♪

476
00:31:57,751 --> 00:32:00,211
♪ You're trading jackets
Like we used to do ♪

477
00:32:00,295 --> 00:32:02,922
♪ Yeah, everything is all reused ♪

478
00:32:03,006 --> 00:32:05,467
♪ Play her piano, but she doesn't know ♪

479
00:32:05,550 --> 00:32:08,136
♪ That I was the one
Who taught you Billy Joel ♪

480
00:32:08,219 --> 00:32:10,764
♪ It's a different girl now
But there's nothing new ♪

481
00:32:10,847 --> 00:32:13,516
♪ I know you get déjà vu ♪

482
00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:24,361
♪ I know you get déjà vu ♪

483
00:32:24,444 --> 00:32:25,904
-[car turns off]
-[song ends]

484
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,793
I was thinking a lot about this idea of,
in order to get over a heartbreak,

485
00:32:39,876 --> 00:32:42,462
I think you have to forgive
that person who caused you pain,

486
00:32:42,545 --> 00:32:45,674
but I think also a big part of it
is forgiving yourself.

487
00:32:48,385 --> 00:32:53,515
I found this little poem
that I wrote in my Notes app on my phone.

488
00:32:53,598 --> 00:32:56,643
"I know that I loved you so bad,
I let you treat me like that."

489
00:32:57,894 --> 00:32:59,813
I really liked that.
I thought it grabbed you.

490
00:32:59,896 --> 00:33:01,898
So we made it the first line of the song.

491
00:33:02,482 --> 00:33:03,817
[Nigro] I think you need to try that.

492
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:04,901
♪ Oh, look-- ♪

493
00:33:04,984 --> 00:33:06,194
♪ Look what we be-- ♪

494
00:33:06,277 --> 00:33:08,196
♪ Look what we be--
Oh, look what we be-- ♪

495
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,115
Okay. Let's do it. Okay.

496
00:33:10,198 --> 00:33:11,533
[Nigro] A little more angsty!

497
00:33:11,616 --> 00:33:13,410
-I can do that.
-Get mad!

498
00:33:13,493 --> 00:33:15,245
You're angry right now.

499
00:33:15,328 --> 00:33:17,622
-There is a crime that has been committed…
-[Rodrigo chuckles]

500
00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:19,249
…and you're happy and you're sad about it.

501
00:33:19,332 --> 00:33:20,750
There's so many confusing feelings.

502
00:33:24,546 --> 00:33:28,550
I really like the lyric
"One heart broke, four hands bloody."

503
00:33:28,633 --> 00:33:30,885
Having the blame be on two people.

504
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,265
You know, heartbreak is a two-way street.
You couldn't have gotten your heart broken

505
00:33:35,348 --> 00:33:37,976
if you didn't put yourself
in the position to be hurt.

506
00:33:41,396 --> 00:33:46,234
I think writing this song
sort of helped me forgive myself.

507
00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:53,533
[a cappella]
♪ Know that I loved you so bad ♪

508
00:33:56,703 --> 00:34:00,915
♪ I let you treat me like that ♪

509
00:34:02,667 --> 00:34:06,963
♪ I was your willing accomplice, honey ♪

510
00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:12,802
♪ I watched as you fled the scene ♪

511
00:34:14,471 --> 00:34:18,767
♪ Doe-eyed as you buried me ♪

512
00:34:20,143 --> 00:34:25,440
♪ One heart broke, four hands bloody ♪

513
00:34:28,568 --> 00:34:31,613
-♪ Oh, the things I did ♪
-[electric guitar plays]

514
00:34:32,781 --> 00:34:38,119
♪ Just so I could call you mine ♪

515
00:34:40,372 --> 00:34:43,750
♪ The things you did ♪

516
00:34:43,833 --> 00:34:50,799
♪ Well, I hope I was your favorite crime ♪

517
00:34:52,759 --> 00:34:55,470
♪ Used me as an alibi ♪

518
00:34:55,553 --> 00:34:58,473
♪ I crossed my heart
As you crossed the line ♪

519
00:34:58,556 --> 00:35:02,727
♪ And I defended you to all my friends ♪

520
00:35:03,853 --> 00:35:07,107
♪ And now every time a siren sounds ♪

521
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:09,567
♪ I wonder if you're around ♪

522
00:35:09,651 --> 00:35:13,363
♪ 'Cause you know
That I'd do it all again ♪

523
00:35:14,322 --> 00:35:17,367
♪ Oh, the things I did ♪

524
00:35:18,535 --> 00:35:22,997
♪ Just so I could call you mine ♪

525
00:35:26,126 --> 00:35:29,462
♪ The things you did ♪

526
00:35:29,546 --> 00:35:36,511
♪ Well, I hope I was your favorite crime ♪

527
00:35:37,887 --> 00:35:41,224
♪ And it's bittersweet
To think about the damage that we'd do ♪

528
00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:44,060
♪ 'Cause I was going down
But I was doing it with you ♪

529
00:35:44,144 --> 00:35:46,980
♪ Yeah, everything we broke
And all the trouble that we made ♪

530
00:35:47,063 --> 00:35:53,945
♪ But I say that I hate you
With a smile on my face ♪

531
00:35:54,863 --> 00:36:00,076
♪ Oh, look what we became ♪

532
00:36:02,787 --> 00:36:05,915
♪ Oh, the things I did ♪

533
00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:11,963
♪ Just so I could call you mine ♪

534
00:36:12,047 --> 00:36:13,548
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

535
00:36:14,299 --> 00:36:17,969
♪ Oh, the things you did ♪

536
00:36:18,053 --> 00:36:25,018
♪ Well, I hope I was your favorite crime ♪

537
00:36:26,144 --> 00:36:31,107
♪ Your favorite crime ♪

538
00:36:31,775 --> 00:36:36,654
♪ Your favorite crime ♪

539
00:36:37,322 --> 00:36:39,115
♪ 'Cause baby you were mine ♪

540
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,201
[guitar fades]

541
00:36:44,954 --> 00:36:46,247
[car approaching]

542
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,778
[Rodrigo] "good 4 u" is another song
that I wrote sort of on a whim.

543
00:37:16,861 --> 00:37:19,614
I love how this song expresses
anger and pettiness

544
00:37:19,698 --> 00:37:22,826
in a way that's more funny
and tongue-in-cheek

545
00:37:22,909 --> 00:37:25,036
rather than, like, aggressive and mean.

546
00:37:25,787 --> 00:37:28,289
I actually think it's more impactful
without the stuff on that.

547
00:37:28,373 --> 00:37:29,374
[Nigro] So take it out?

548
00:37:29,457 --> 00:37:31,292
♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

549
00:37:31,376 --> 00:37:33,503
-I think it's better without.
-Can you do that again?

550
00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:34,754
♪ Way you know that I do ♪

551
00:37:34,838 --> 00:37:36,006
-[Nigro chuckles]
-That one.

552
00:37:36,089 --> 00:37:38,049
-[Rodrigo] Did that help?
-[Nigro] Yes, it helped.

553
00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:41,302
[Rodrigo] Um, I think it's more impactful
without that stuff on there.

554
00:37:42,095 --> 00:37:44,973
[on speaker] ♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

555
00:37:45,056 --> 00:37:47,517
[Nigro] Even the lower one in there?
The little demon that I have going.

556
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,728
-I don't like it. Take the demon out.
-You don't like the demon?

557
00:37:49,811 --> 00:37:51,312
[distorted]
♪ Well, screw that and screw you ♪

558
00:37:51,396 --> 00:37:54,149
♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

559
00:37:54,232 --> 00:37:56,401
-[chuckles] Need to have it.
-I love that. That's the song.

560
00:37:56,484 --> 00:37:58,653
-We have Satan in the song, you know?
-Just take it out.

561
00:37:58,737 --> 00:38:00,363
At least let me hear it.

562
00:38:13,293 --> 00:38:15,170
["good 4 u" playing]

563
00:38:19,799 --> 00:38:22,510
[Rodrigo] ♪ Well, good for you
I guess you moved on really easily ♪

564
00:38:22,594 --> 00:38:25,847
♪ You found a new girl
And it only took a couple weeks ♪

565
00:38:25,930 --> 00:38:30,727
♪ Remember when you said
That you wanted to give me the world ♪

566
00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:34,898
♪ And good for you, I guess
That you've been working on yourself ♪

567
00:38:34,981 --> 00:38:37,859
♪ I guess that therapist
I found for you, she really helped ♪

568
00:38:37,942 --> 00:38:43,114
♪ Now you can be a better man
For your brand-new girl ♪

569
00:38:44,407 --> 00:38:48,119
♪ Good for you
You look happy and healthy, not me ♪

570
00:38:48,203 --> 00:38:50,288
♪ If you ever cared to ask ♪

571
00:38:50,372 --> 00:38:51,373
♪ Good for you ♪

572
00:38:51,456 --> 00:38:54,250
♪ You're doing great out there
Without me, baby ♪

573
00:38:54,334 --> 00:38:56,211
♪ God, I wish that I could do that ♪

574
00:38:56,294 --> 00:38:59,172
♪ I've lost my mind
I've spent the night ♪

575
00:38:59,255 --> 00:39:02,300
♪ Crying on the floor of my bathroom ♪

576
00:39:02,384 --> 00:39:05,512
♪ You're so unaffected
I really don't get it ♪

577
00:39:05,595 --> 00:39:08,682
♪ But I guess good for you ♪

578
00:39:10,558 --> 00:39:12,102
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

579
00:39:13,853 --> 00:39:14,979
♪ And good for you ♪

580
00:39:15,063 --> 00:39:16,940
♪ I guess you're getting
Everything you want ♪

581
00:39:17,023 --> 00:39:20,235
♪ You bought a new car
And your career's really taking off ♪

582
00:39:20,318 --> 00:39:22,195
♪ It's like we never even happened, baby ♪

583
00:39:22,278 --> 00:39:25,532
♪ What the **** is up with that? ♪

584
00:39:26,116 --> 00:39:29,369
♪ And good for you
It's like you never even met me ♪

585
00:39:29,452 --> 00:39:31,830
♪ Remember when you swore to God
I was the only ♪

586
00:39:31,913 --> 00:39:33,248
♪ Person who ever got you? ♪

587
00:39:33,331 --> 00:39:35,083
♪ Well, screw that and screw you ♪

588
00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:38,336
♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

589
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:42,507
♪ Well, good for you
You look happy and healthy, not me ♪

590
00:39:42,590 --> 00:39:44,884
♪ If you ever cared to ask ♪

591
00:39:44,968 --> 00:39:45,969
♪ Good for you ♪

592
00:39:46,052 --> 00:39:48,680
♪ You're doing great out there
Without me, baby ♪

593
00:39:48,763 --> 00:39:50,390
♪ God, I wish that I could do that ♪

594
00:39:50,473 --> 00:39:53,685
♪ I've lost my mind
I've spent the night ♪

595
00:39:53,768 --> 00:39:56,813
♪ Crying on the floor of my bathroom ♪

596
00:39:56,896 --> 00:39:59,983
♪ You're so unaffected
I really don't get it ♪

597
00:40:00,066 --> 00:40:03,611
♪ But I guess good for you ♪

598
00:40:20,628 --> 00:40:23,506
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

599
00:40:23,590 --> 00:40:26,718
♪ Your apathy's like a wound in salt ♪

600
00:40:26,801 --> 00:40:29,512
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

601
00:40:29,596 --> 00:40:32,474
♪ Or maybe you never cared at all ♪

602
00:40:32,557 --> 00:40:35,518
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

603
00:40:35,602 --> 00:40:38,813
♪ Your apathy's like a wound in salt ♪

604
00:40:38,897 --> 00:40:41,649
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

605
00:40:41,733 --> 00:40:45,987
♪ Or maybe you never cared at all ♪

606
00:40:46,654 --> 00:40:48,156
♪ Well, good for you ♪

607
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,950
♪ You look happy and healthy, not me ♪

608
00:40:51,034 --> 00:40:53,203
♪ If you ever cared to ask ♪

609
00:40:53,286 --> 00:40:54,287
♪ Good for you ♪

610
00:40:54,371 --> 00:40:56,915
♪ You're doing great out there
Without me ♪

611
00:40:56,998 --> 00:40:58,875
♪ Like a damn sociopath ♪

612
00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:01,961
♪ I've lost my mind
I've spent the night ♪

613
00:41:02,045 --> 00:41:05,090
♪ Crying on the floor of my bathroom ♪

614
00:41:05,173 --> 00:41:08,301
♪ You're so unaffected
I really don't get it ♪

615
00:41:08,385 --> 00:41:11,596
♪ But I guess good for you ♪

616
00:41:16,810 --> 00:41:20,355
♪ Well, good for you
I guess you moved on really easily ♪

617
00:41:20,438 --> 00:41:21,439
[song ends]

618
00:41:31,741 --> 00:41:34,494
[Rodrigo] I was thinking
about how I wrote "enough for you,"

619
00:41:34,994 --> 00:41:39,666
and I actually wrote it
on my bedroom floor in Salt Lake City,

620
00:41:39,749 --> 00:41:41,459
looking into a full-length mirror.

621
00:41:41,543 --> 00:41:44,421
Like, I was on my guitar,
playing to myself in the mirror,

622
00:41:44,504 --> 00:41:48,675
which I think is really funny considering,
like, the themes of the song.

623
00:41:48,758 --> 00:41:50,510
I just think, at the time,

624
00:41:50,593 --> 00:41:54,514
I was just feeling
this soul-crushing inferiority.

625
00:41:56,182 --> 00:41:58,393
An inferiority that I think only occurs

626
00:41:58,476 --> 00:42:01,187
when you, like, are really deeply in love
with someone.

627
00:42:01,271 --> 00:42:04,024
And, you know, feeling like
you aren't good enough for someone

628
00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:08,486
who is your absolute world
is, like, so, so crushing.

629
00:42:09,362 --> 00:42:12,115
But I really like
how the song sort of starts

630
00:42:12,824 --> 00:42:14,409
in this really self-deprecating place,

631
00:42:14,492 --> 00:42:16,828
and sort of becomes a little more hopeful
at the end.

632
00:42:20,290 --> 00:42:25,545
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough ♪

633
00:42:25,628 --> 00:42:31,176
♪ But I don't think anything
Could ever be enough ♪

634
00:42:31,259 --> 00:42:35,513
♪ For you ♪

635
00:42:36,389 --> 00:42:38,099
♪ Enough for you ♪

636
00:42:38,183 --> 00:42:41,061
[vocalizes]

637
00:42:41,144 --> 00:42:43,688
♪ No, nothing's enough for you ♪

638
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:48,902
-[whimpers]
-What's wrong?

639
00:42:48,985 --> 00:42:50,862
I'm so sad about it. I don't know.

640
00:42:51,404 --> 00:42:53,156
[clears throat]
You don't like this either?

641
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,617
-I don't know.
-What don't you like about it?

642
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:58,745
'Cause it's just like every other song
I have on the record,

643
00:42:58,828 --> 00:43:00,121
just different words.

644
00:43:02,165 --> 00:43:04,584
Okay. You want it to be electric guitar?

645
00:43:05,669 --> 00:43:06,753
[Rodrigo chuckles]

646
00:43:08,463 --> 00:43:09,673
Is that gonna help?

647
00:43:10,382 --> 00:43:11,383
I don't know.

648
00:43:12,008 --> 00:43:13,009
Okay.

649
00:43:14,969 --> 00:43:18,098
That was, like, towards, like, the end
of the album making process.

650
00:43:18,181 --> 00:43:20,809
And I just remember listening
to that song and being like,

651
00:43:20,892 --> 00:43:22,477
"Everything's wrong with this song."

652
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,729
And I love the song
and the lyrics and the melody,

653
00:43:24,813 --> 00:43:26,356
but I just remember like,

654
00:43:26,439 --> 00:43:28,650
"The guitar is not right.
It's out of tempo.

655
00:43:28,733 --> 00:43:31,194
I don't like it. I can't sing it well.
Like, dah, dah, dah."

656
00:43:31,277 --> 00:43:33,029
There's so many issues with it in my head.

657
00:43:33,113 --> 00:43:36,199
[Rodrigo] I don't know. I just wish some
of the bits were more emotional.

658
00:43:36,282 --> 00:43:38,993
I feel like if you're not
closely paying attention to the lyrics,

659
00:43:39,077 --> 00:43:42,080
you, like, wouldn't understand,
like, what was going on.

660
00:43:42,163 --> 00:43:45,375
[Nigro] I think you're overthinking that
like crazy.

661
00:43:45,458 --> 00:43:47,794
-[Morris] I agree. It's so emotional.
-[Nigro] Like crazy.

662
00:43:47,877 --> 00:43:48,878
[person] It really is.

663
00:43:48,962 --> 00:43:52,215
[Morris] It's so emotional. It literally,
like, breaks me every time I hear it.

664
00:43:52,298 --> 00:43:53,133
[Rodrigo chuckles]

665
00:43:59,764 --> 00:44:00,765
Being a child actor,

666
00:44:00,849 --> 00:44:03,351
where you're constantly told
everything you do is amazing,

667
00:44:03,435 --> 00:44:06,354
you did the bare minimum and they're like,
"Oh, you're a star."

668
00:44:08,064 --> 00:44:10,442
And I was always, like,
really disillusioned by that

669
00:44:10,525 --> 00:44:11,526
from a very young age.

670
00:44:11,609 --> 00:44:13,778
I was like,
"They're just gonna tell me whatever."

671
00:44:13,862 --> 00:44:17,032
And so, I kind of, like,
went to the other side of the spectrum,

672
00:44:17,115 --> 00:44:19,826
and started thinking
that everything that I did was really bad.

673
00:44:19,909 --> 00:44:22,245
And started being, like, my own critic
and being like,

674
00:44:22,328 --> 00:44:24,456
"No, you can always do better.
Always do better."

675
00:44:24,539 --> 00:44:27,042
Never accepted when anyone told me
that I did a good job.

676
00:44:27,959 --> 00:44:31,796
I remember really gravitating
towards my dad in that time

677
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,216
'cause he was the only person
who I felt, like, would tell me the truth,

678
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:38,219
and that was really hard
for me to grapple with at a young age,

679
00:44:38,303 --> 00:44:39,763
feeling like you couldn't trust anyone

680
00:44:39,846 --> 00:44:42,349
and no one was gonna tell you
if you were messing up.

681
00:44:44,601 --> 00:44:46,603
I also think Dan is like that for me too.

682
00:44:46,686 --> 00:44:49,105
Dan's very much someone in my life

683
00:44:49,189 --> 00:44:52,067
who will be, like, unabashedly like,

684
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:54,819
"No, you shouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that if I were you."

685
00:44:54,903 --> 00:44:56,404
Which I, like, really appreciate,

686
00:44:56,488 --> 00:44:59,657
'cause not a lot of people care enough
to be honest with people.

687
00:44:59,741 --> 00:45:00,742
You know what I mean?

688
00:45:00,825 --> 00:45:03,411
I think there's a certain level of care
and kindness

689
00:45:03,495 --> 00:45:06,623
that goes with having the courage
to, like, help someone like that.

690
00:45:06,706 --> 00:45:08,708
["enough for you" playing]

691
00:45:20,178 --> 00:45:26,059
♪ I wore makeup when we dated
'Cause I thought you'd like me more ♪

692
00:45:26,142 --> 00:45:32,440
♪ If I looked like the other prom queens
I know that you loved before ♪

693
00:45:32,524 --> 00:45:37,028
♪ Tried so hard to be
Everything that you liked ♪

694
00:45:37,696 --> 00:45:43,284
♪ Just for you to say
You're not the compliment type ♪

695
00:45:44,911 --> 00:45:50,959
♪ And I knew how you took your coffee
And your favorite songs by heart ♪

696
00:45:51,042 --> 00:45:56,506
♪ I read all of your self-help books
So you'd think that I was smart ♪

697
00:45:56,589 --> 00:46:01,344
♪ Stupid, emotional, obsessive little me ♪

698
00:46:02,804 --> 00:46:07,642
♪ I knew from the start
This is exactly how you'd leave ♪

699
00:46:08,143 --> 00:46:13,690
♪ You found someone more exciting
The next second you were gone ♪

700
00:46:14,691 --> 00:46:19,863
♪ And you left me there crying
Wondering what I did wrong ♪

701
00:46:19,946 --> 00:46:26,161
♪ And you always say I'm never satisfied
But I don't think that's true ♪

702
00:46:27,078 --> 00:46:32,083
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough for you ♪

703
00:46:33,168 --> 00:46:38,173
♪ Yeah, all I ever wanted
Was to be enough for you ♪

704
00:46:41,551 --> 00:46:47,640
♪ And maybe I'm just not as interesting
As the girls you had before ♪

705
00:46:47,724 --> 00:46:53,813
♪ But God, you couldn't have cared less
About someone who loved you more ♪

706
00:46:53,897 --> 00:46:58,109
♪ I'd say you broke my heart
But you broke much more than that ♪

707
00:46:58,985 --> 00:47:04,157
♪ Now I don't want your sympathy
I just want myself back ♪

708
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:10,372
♪ Before you found someone more exciting
The next second you were gone ♪

709
00:47:11,498 --> 00:47:16,670
♪ And you left me there crying
Wondering what I did wrong ♪

710
00:47:16,753 --> 00:47:22,926
♪ And you always say I'm never satisfied
But I don't think that's true ♪

711
00:47:23,885 --> 00:47:29,140
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough ♪

712
00:47:29,224 --> 00:47:35,397
♪ And don't you think I loved you too much
To be used and discarded? ♪

713
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:42,112
♪ Don't you think I loved you too much
To think I deserve nothing? ♪

714
00:47:42,195 --> 00:47:47,534
♪ But don't tell me you're sorry, boy
Feel sorry for yourself ♪

715
00:47:48,326 --> 00:47:53,957
♪ 'Cause someday I'll be everything
To somebody else ♪

716
00:47:58,169 --> 00:48:01,589
♪ They'll think that I am so exciting ♪

717
00:48:05,176 --> 00:48:08,805
♪ Then you'll be the one who's crying ♪

718
00:48:09,931 --> 00:48:14,644
♪ Yeah
You always say I'm never satisfied ♪

719
00:48:14,728 --> 00:48:17,188
♪ But I don't think that's true ♪

720
00:48:17,897 --> 00:48:23,319
♪ You say I'm never satisfied
But that's not me, it's you ♪

721
00:48:24,154 --> 00:48:29,117
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough ♪

722
00:48:29,868 --> 00:48:35,999
♪ But I don't think anything
Could ever be enough ♪

723
00:48:36,082 --> 00:48:39,961
♪ For you ♪

724
00:48:41,755 --> 00:48:43,465
♪ Enough for you ♪

725
00:48:43,548 --> 00:48:46,426
[vocalizes]

726
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:50,388
♪ No, nothing's enough for you ♪

727
00:48:50,472 --> 00:48:52,474
[song ends]

728
00:48:58,104 --> 00:49:00,732
[gentle piano playing]

729
00:49:09,657 --> 00:49:10,658
[Nigro] What's that?

730
00:49:10,742 --> 00:49:11,743
[Rodrigo] No clue.

731
00:49:13,787 --> 00:49:15,622
-[Rodrigo] You ready?
-[Nigro] I think so.

732
00:49:16,456 --> 00:49:19,626
♪ You betrayed me ♪

733
00:49:19,709 --> 00:49:23,963
♪ And I know
That you'll never feel sorry ♪

734
00:49:24,047 --> 00:49:26,591
♪ For the way I hurt, yeah ♪

735
00:49:26,675 --> 00:49:28,635
[both]
♪ You talked to her ♪

736
00:49:28,718 --> 00:49:30,512
[Nigro]
I think you're right. I don't like--

737
00:49:30,595 --> 00:49:32,263
[Nigro sighs] There's gotta be…

738
00:49:32,347 --> 00:49:33,640
♪ The way I hurt, yeah ♪

739
00:49:33,723 --> 00:49:37,644
♪ You talked to her
When we were together ♪

740
00:49:37,727 --> 00:49:42,232
♪ Loved you at your worst
But that didn't matter ♪

741
00:49:42,315 --> 00:49:43,400
[laughs]

742
00:49:49,698 --> 00:49:53,201
[Rodrigo] "traitor" is one of my
favorite songs I've ever written, I think.

743
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:55,412
I really like the line,

744
00:49:55,495 --> 00:49:57,580
"I guess you didn't cheat,
but you're still a traitor."

745
00:49:57,664 --> 00:50:00,083
'Cause I think it's a really concise way
of expressing

746
00:50:00,166 --> 00:50:02,711
that super painful feeling of betrayal
that you get

747
00:50:02,794 --> 00:50:05,797
when someone you knew so well
moves on so quickly.

748
00:50:06,673 --> 00:50:10,343
And I think that's the hardest part
about being a songwriter sometimes,

749
00:50:10,427 --> 00:50:13,013
is diving into
those really painful emotions.

750
00:50:13,763 --> 00:50:16,641
I think you can never lie to yourself
when you're writing a song.

751
00:50:17,183 --> 00:50:18,643
At least, it's hard for me.

752
00:50:23,231 --> 00:50:24,524
[engine stops]

753
00:50:53,386 --> 00:50:54,596
[pedal clicks]

754
00:50:55,889 --> 00:50:58,558
-["traitor" playing]
-[piano plays]

755
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,567
-[pedal clicks]
-[piano loops]

756
00:51:11,196 --> 00:51:12,405
[clicks]

757
00:51:16,451 --> 00:51:19,037
-[beat thumps]
-[piano loops]

758
00:51:26,419 --> 00:51:29,381
-[clicks]
-[piano, beat loop]

759
00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:39,724
[guitar strums]

760
00:51:46,856 --> 00:51:49,984
-[pedal clicks]
-[piano, beat, guitar loop]

761
00:51:52,570 --> 00:51:53,905
[pedal clicks]

762
00:51:57,784 --> 00:52:00,286
[vocalizes]

763
00:52:07,794 --> 00:52:10,505
-[pedal clicks]
-[piano, beat, guitar, vocals loop]

764
00:52:12,716 --> 00:52:14,718
[clicks]

765
00:52:18,304 --> 00:52:20,890
[guitar melody plays]

766
00:52:29,441 --> 00:52:31,192
-[clicks]
-[all parts loop]

767
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:43,580
♪ Brown, guilty eyes
And little white lies, yeah ♪

768
00:52:43,663 --> 00:52:47,042
♪ I played dumb, but I always knew ♪

769
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,506
♪ That you talked to her maybe
Did even worse ♪

770
00:52:53,590 --> 00:52:57,469
♪ I kept quiet so I could keep you ♪

771
00:52:58,386 --> 00:53:00,347
♪ And ain't it funny ♪

772
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:08,063
♪ How you ran to her
The second that we called it quits? ♪

773
00:53:08,938 --> 00:53:10,607
♪ Ain't it funny ♪

774
00:53:11,358 --> 00:53:18,031
♪ How you said you were friends?
Now it sure as hell don't look like it ♪

775
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:21,951
♪ You betrayed me ♪

776
00:53:22,452 --> 00:53:27,082
♪ And I know that
You'll never feel sorry ♪

777
00:53:27,582 --> 00:53:30,293
♪ For the way I hurt, yeah ♪

778
00:53:30,377 --> 00:53:35,090
♪ You talked to her
When we were together ♪

779
00:53:35,173 --> 00:53:40,095
♪ Loved you at your worst
But that didn't matter ♪

780
00:53:40,178 --> 00:53:45,308
♪ It took you two weeks
To go off and date her ♪

781
00:53:45,392 --> 00:53:51,356
♪ Guess you didn't cheat
But you're still a traitor ♪

782
00:53:52,482 --> 00:53:54,984
[vocalizes]

783
00:53:56,111 --> 00:53:58,405
♪ God, I wish that you
Had thought this through ♪

784
00:53:58,488 --> 00:54:02,450
♪ Before I went and fell
In love with you ♪

785
00:54:03,076 --> 00:54:05,161
♪ Oh ♪

786
00:54:05,745 --> 00:54:08,248
♪ And when she's sleeping
In the bed we made ♪

787
00:54:08,331 --> 00:54:10,667
♪ Don't you dare forget about the way ♪

788
00:54:10,750 --> 00:54:13,837
♪ You betrayed me ♪

789
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:19,134
♪ 'Cause I know that
You'll never feel sorry ♪

790
00:54:19,217 --> 00:54:21,803
♪ For the way I hurt, yeah ♪

791
00:54:21,886 --> 00:54:26,433
♪ You talked to her
When we were together ♪

792
00:54:26,516 --> 00:54:31,688
♪ You gave me your word
But that didn't matter ♪

793
00:54:31,771 --> 00:54:36,735
♪ It took you two weeks
To go off and date her ♪

794
00:54:36,818 --> 00:54:41,031
♪ Guess you didn't cheat
But you're still ♪

795
00:54:41,114 --> 00:54:48,121
♪ You're still a traitor ♪

796
00:54:49,706 --> 00:54:52,500
♪ Yeah, you're still a traitor ♪

797
00:54:54,044 --> 00:54:57,213
[vocalizes]

798
00:54:57,881 --> 00:55:00,216
♪ God, I wish that you
Had thought this through ♪

799
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,220
♪ Before I went and fell
In love with you ♪

800
00:55:04,304 --> 00:55:05,597
[song ends]

801
00:55:39,255 --> 00:55:41,925
So Dan and I are just,
like, losing our minds. And…

802
00:55:42,008 --> 00:55:45,387
-[both laugh]
-[person on phone] About what?

803
00:55:45,470 --> 00:55:47,847
And we wanna put one more upbeat song
on the record.

804
00:55:47,931 --> 00:55:50,725
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
This is not a "we" conversation.

805
00:55:50,809 --> 00:55:52,102
I wanna put one more upbeat--

806
00:55:52,185 --> 00:55:54,562
Olivia wants one more upbeat song
on the record.

807
00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:56,815
And we can't choose which song.

808
00:55:57,607 --> 00:55:58,733
[person] What do you mean?

809
00:55:58,817 --> 00:56:01,861
Like, we've been just going through songs
that are on my Voice Memos.

810
00:56:01,945 --> 00:56:04,614
What's it like when you have five days
to choose a track listing,

811
00:56:04,698 --> 00:56:06,157
and you change your mind every day?

812
00:56:06,241 --> 00:56:09,160
I'm not changing my mind every day!
I've always wanted one more upbeat song!

813
00:56:09,244 --> 00:56:11,121
[piano playing]

814
00:56:13,289 --> 00:56:15,625
[Rodrigo singing]
♪ I got my driver's license ♪

815
00:56:15,709 --> 00:56:16,751
Is it B or is it…

816
00:56:17,377 --> 00:56:18,420
[piano plays lower key]

817
00:56:18,503 --> 00:56:20,088
-♪ Driver's license-- ♪
-No, it's B-flat.

818
00:56:20,171 --> 00:56:21,715
-[Rodrigo] Yeah, it's B-flat.
-Ah, Okay.

819
00:56:21,798 --> 00:56:24,676
Should we-- We should write a song.
We could write a song today.

820
00:56:24,759 --> 00:56:26,845
-[Nigro] In what? In…
-In G-sharp minor.

821
00:56:26,928 --> 00:56:29,514
-[guitar strumming]
-[Rodrigo sings indistinctly]

822
00:56:31,516 --> 00:56:33,143
-[Rodrigo] What's that?
-I don't know.

823
00:56:33,226 --> 00:56:34,227
It's cool.

824
00:56:36,813 --> 00:56:38,440
-[Rodrigo hums]
-[Nigro] Oh.

825
00:56:39,941 --> 00:56:42,986
-[Rodrigo] What? So good.
-I'm gonna record it so I don't forget it.

826
00:56:45,572 --> 00:56:46,573
So good.

827
00:56:50,493 --> 00:56:52,954
[Rodrigo singing indistinctly]

828
00:56:57,250 --> 00:57:02,297
♪ Well, I
I wanna cry now ♪

829
00:57:03,256 --> 00:57:04,841
So good, Dan. I love it.

830
00:57:05,508 --> 00:57:07,302
[singing indistinctly]

831
00:57:11,056 --> 00:57:15,560
♪ Na na, na na
Tell me so ♪

832
00:57:19,939 --> 00:57:21,941
[both sing]

833
00:57:22,025 --> 00:57:24,778
[Nigro] Then right here you got…
[sings falsetto]

834
00:57:25,403 --> 00:57:27,238
[both sing]

835
00:57:27,781 --> 00:57:29,699
[Rodrigo sings indistinctly]

836
00:57:35,663 --> 00:57:37,123
-[Nigro] Pretty fun.
-I love that.

837
00:57:37,207 --> 00:57:39,542
[Rodrigo] It'd be cool
to have a song called "brutal."

838
00:57:39,626 --> 00:57:41,503
And I was like,
"What if the hook is like--"

839
00:57:41,586 --> 00:57:44,714
Like the verses are like, [vocalizes]
"People are mean, world is cruel."

840
00:57:44,798 --> 00:57:46,049
And then, like, the hook--

841
00:57:46,132 --> 00:57:48,760
The thing is like,
"God, it's brutal out here."

842
00:57:48,843 --> 00:57:51,388
-I like that. "It's brutal out here."
-You like that? Yeah.

843
00:57:52,013 --> 00:57:53,181
It's, like, punky.

844
00:57:53,264 --> 00:57:55,433
Sure. I like that.
I actually do like that.

845
00:57:55,517 --> 00:57:57,435
-Okay.
-I like that. I like that.

846
00:57:57,519 --> 00:57:58,770
God, it's brutal out here.

847
00:58:01,481 --> 00:58:02,482
Um.

848
00:58:02,565 --> 00:58:07,487
"brutal," um, take 1. And the only take.

849
00:58:08,196 --> 00:58:10,198
We wrote this yesterday.

850
00:58:10,281 --> 00:58:12,575
[Nigro] All right.
Do you have latency or are you good?

851
00:58:12,659 --> 00:58:16,037
-I'm so-- I don't-- I can't hear it.
-You can't hear-- Oh, right, because…

852
00:58:16,663 --> 00:58:17,664
Try now.

853
00:58:17,747 --> 00:58:21,251
♪ I'm so insecure I think
That I'll die before I drink ♪

854
00:58:21,334 --> 00:58:22,377
-Good.
-Is that cool?

855
00:58:22,460 --> 00:58:24,337
I'm just gonna eat the shit
out of the mic.

856
00:58:24,421 --> 00:58:26,923
-Eat the shit out of it.
-[headphones: music plays]

857
00:58:27,007 --> 00:58:28,133
It's four, right?

858
00:58:28,216 --> 00:58:32,137
-Four times. Give it to me. Three. Nine!
-[laughs]

859
00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:35,932
♪ I'm so insecure I think
That I'll die before I drink ♪

860
00:58:36,016 --> 00:58:39,769
♪ I'm so caught up in the news
Of who likes me and who hates you ♪

861
00:58:39,853 --> 00:58:43,481
♪ I'm so tired that I might
Quit my job, start a new life ♪

862
00:58:43,565 --> 00:58:47,277
♪ And they'd all be so disappointed
'Cause I'm the girl that they exploited ♪

863
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,156
♪ And I'm so sick of 17
Where's my **** teenage dream? ♪

864
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:54,951
♪ If someone tells me one more time
Enjoy your youth, I'm gonna cry ♪

865
00:58:55,035 --> 00:58:58,747
♪ And I wish I was someone else
I'm anxious and no one can help ♪

866
00:58:58,830 --> 00:59:02,792
♪ And I wish I'd done this before
And I wish people liked me more ♪

867
00:59:04,002 --> 00:59:06,046
It's such a good song, Dan. I'm so glad--

868
00:59:06,129 --> 00:59:09,466
-I'm so glad we made this just on a whim.
-[laughs]

869
00:59:09,549 --> 00:59:10,884
Why not? Have fun, right?

870
00:59:10,967 --> 00:59:12,427
-Yeah.
-Is that what we're here for?

871
00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:14,763
-Yeah.
-No, there's no fun in making music ever.

872
00:59:14,846 --> 00:59:16,222
None. Especially our music.

873
00:59:16,306 --> 00:59:18,350
-It's very serious.
-[Rodrigo groans] Depressing.

874
00:59:40,914 --> 00:59:44,250
[Rodrigo]
I remember just feeling kind of trapped

875
00:59:45,085 --> 00:59:51,007
and kind of, like, flung into
this situation that I wasn't prepared for.

876
00:59:51,091 --> 00:59:53,134
It was very, like, overnight.

877
00:59:53,218 --> 00:59:55,220
Like, all of a sudden,
everyone's watching you,

878
00:59:55,303 --> 00:59:57,889
and I'm like, "Oh, my God.
Did I actually ever want this?"

879
00:59:57,972 --> 00:59:59,557
It's, like, the big question.

880
01:00:00,934 --> 01:00:03,853
And I remember, like, loving the
"Who am I if not exploited?" line.

881
01:00:03,937 --> 01:00:07,774
And I felt so-- I felt so angsty about it
when I, like, wrote it.

882
01:00:07,857 --> 01:00:10,527
And I was like,
"Yes, it's exactly what I want to say."

883
01:00:27,669 --> 01:00:30,088
That, like, period of my life
was very strange.

884
01:00:30,171 --> 01:00:32,924
And I remember feeling, like, lonely.

885
01:00:33,008 --> 01:00:35,385
And I remember
wanting a boyfriend very bad.

886
01:00:35,468 --> 01:00:38,555
And I remember that was, like,
during a time

887
01:00:38,638 --> 01:00:41,391
where I, like, kind of looked through,

888
01:00:41,474 --> 01:00:44,769
like, what people said about me,
like, online or in print.

889
01:00:45,311 --> 01:00:47,480
And I'm still reeling from this heartbreak

890
01:00:47,564 --> 01:00:50,775
and all of the drama
that went all around it.

891
01:00:50,859 --> 01:00:52,444
We were finishing up the album.

892
01:00:53,528 --> 01:00:54,946
So much stuff was happening.

893
01:00:55,697 --> 01:00:57,782
Just, like, everything
was coming to a head.

894
01:00:57,866 --> 01:01:01,745
-[instrumental music playing]
-[bells ding]

895
01:01:10,378 --> 01:01:12,589
["brutal" playing]

896
01:01:18,178 --> 01:01:22,223
♪ I'm so insecure I think
That I'll die before I drink ♪

897
01:01:22,307 --> 01:01:26,019
♪ I'm so caught up in the news
Of who likes me and who hates you ♪

898
01:01:26,102 --> 01:01:29,898
♪ And I'm so tired that I might
Quit my job, start a new life ♪

899
01:01:29,981 --> 01:01:33,818
♪ And they'd all be so disappointed
'Cause who am I if not exploited? ♪

900
01:01:33,902 --> 01:01:37,655
♪ I'm so sick of 17
Where's my **** teenage dream? ♪

901
01:01:37,739 --> 01:01:41,576
♪ If someone tells me one more time
Enjoy your youth, I'm gonna cry ♪

902
01:01:41,659 --> 01:01:45,413
♪ And I don't stick up for myself
I'm anxious and nothing can help ♪

903
01:01:45,497 --> 01:01:49,292
♪ And I wish I'd done this before
And I wish people liked me more ♪

904
01:01:49,376 --> 01:01:53,213
♪ All I did was try my best
This the kinda thanks I get ♪

905
01:01:53,296 --> 01:01:55,423
♪ Unrelentlessly upset ♪

906
01:01:55,507 --> 01:01:56,883
[backing singers] ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

907
01:01:56,966 --> 01:02:00,970
♪ They say these are the golden years
But I wish I could disappear ♪

908
01:02:01,054 --> 01:02:02,847
♪ Ego crush is so severe ♪

909
01:02:02,931 --> 01:02:04,933
♪ God, it's brutal out here ♪

910
01:02:12,607 --> 01:02:16,403
♪ I feel like no one wants me
And I hate the way I'm perceived ♪

911
01:02:16,486 --> 01:02:20,156
♪ I only have two real friends
And lately I'm a nervous wreck ♪

912
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,077
♪ 'Cause I love people I don't like
And I hate every song I write ♪

913
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,039
♪ And I'm not cool, and I'm not smart
And I can't even parallel park ♪

914
01:02:28,123 --> 01:02:31,876
♪ All I did was try my best
This the kinda thanks I get ♪

915
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,129
♪ Unrelentlessly upset ♪

916
01:02:34,212 --> 01:02:35,547
[backing singers] ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

917
01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:39,676
♪ They say these are the golden years
But I wish I could disappear ♪

918
01:02:39,759 --> 01:02:41,553
♪ Ego crush is so severe ♪

919
01:02:41,636 --> 01:02:43,722
♪ God, it's brutal out here ♪

920
01:02:51,146 --> 01:02:53,314
[guitar solo]

921
01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:14,169
♪ Got a broken ego, broken heart ♪

922
01:03:16,796 --> 01:03:22,010
♪ And God, I don't even know where ♪

923
01:03:23,053 --> 01:03:24,512
♪ To start ♪

924
01:03:31,019 --> 01:03:32,645
[song ends]

925
01:03:41,112 --> 01:03:43,615
[Rodrigo] "hope ur ok" was the last song
I finished on the album.

926
01:03:43,698 --> 01:03:48,703
I really wanted to write a folksy,
singer-songwritery, storytelling song

927
01:03:48,787 --> 01:03:50,747
that ended the album on a hopeful note.

928
01:03:51,247 --> 01:03:54,125
I think even in the midst
of all the heartbreak and pain

929
01:03:54,209 --> 01:03:55,794
that I was talking about in the album,

930
01:03:55,877 --> 01:03:58,421
there's so much hope that goes along
with ending a relationship

931
01:03:58,505 --> 01:04:00,382
and starting a new chapter.

932
01:04:08,223 --> 01:04:09,891
Some of my favorite lyrics are
in that song.

933
01:04:09,974 --> 01:04:13,061
I really like the, "I hope he took
his bad deal and made a royal flush."

934
01:04:13,144 --> 01:04:15,522
I was writing that song in my bedroom
or living room or something.

935
01:04:15,605 --> 01:04:18,149
I remember going into the other room
where my dad was, and I was like,

936
01:04:18,233 --> 01:04:21,069
"Hey, Dad. What's the best card hand
that you can have?"

937
01:04:21,152 --> 01:04:23,697
He goes, "Royal flush." I'm like,
"Perfect. That rhymes with something."

938
01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:26,241
I go back in and, like,
put it in the song.

939
01:04:29,786 --> 01:04:31,913
[Rodrigo]
What do you think about the track listing?

940
01:04:31,996 --> 01:04:34,582
[Nigro laughs] Let's get this in.
We'll talk about it later.

941
01:04:34,666 --> 01:04:35,959
-I have lots of thoughts.
-Okay.

942
01:04:36,459 --> 01:04:39,629
[Nigro] But let's make some,
let's make some steps.

943
01:04:39,713 --> 01:04:43,258
I just-- I just want, um, "brutal"
to be the first track.

944
01:04:43,341 --> 01:04:45,301
-You really do?
-I really do.

945
01:04:46,636 --> 01:04:48,930
[Nigro sighs] Then I have
my work cut out for me this weekend.

946
01:04:49,014 --> 01:04:50,015
I know.

947
01:04:50,098 --> 01:04:51,516
[Nigro coughs]

948
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:55,020
Wait. Sorry. I wasn't ready.
I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready.

949
01:04:55,103 --> 01:04:56,104
Okay. I'm ready.

950
01:04:57,022 --> 01:05:03,403
♪ And when the clouds won't iron out
And the monsters creep into your house ♪

951
01:05:03,486 --> 01:05:07,115
♪ And every door is hard to close ♪

952
01:05:07,782 --> 01:05:09,743
♪ Well, I hope you know ♪

953
01:05:11,828 --> 01:05:13,121
[recording plays]

954
01:05:13,204 --> 01:05:16,875
[Nigro] Cool. I think-- Cool.
That's good. That's great.

955
01:05:16,958 --> 01:05:19,878
I have a co-- Do like two takes,
and then I have some thoughts.

956
01:05:19,961 --> 01:05:20,962
All right.

957
01:05:21,046 --> 01:05:22,964
I want you to get used to singing it
on the mic.

958
01:05:23,048 --> 01:05:25,216
Do you want the click louder?
Are you fine with--

959
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:28,011
-Can I have my voice louder?
-Your voice louder?

960
01:05:28,094 --> 01:05:29,512
Yeah. I'm a narcissist.

961
01:05:30,013 --> 01:05:31,139
Hold on.

962
01:05:31,222 --> 01:05:33,224
[speakers: "hope ur ok"
instrumentals playing]

963
01:05:46,571 --> 01:05:48,156
[song ends]

964
01:05:49,866 --> 01:05:52,202
-I think we might have done it, Dan!
-Yeah?

965
01:05:52,285 --> 01:05:53,328
Should I print it?

966
01:05:53,411 --> 01:05:54,996
-Yeah.
-Yeah. You feel good about it?

967
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,915
I'm gonna cry!

968
01:05:56,998 --> 01:05:58,291
[Nigro laughs]

969
01:05:59,042 --> 01:06:01,795
-I'm gonna cry.
-What-- What a sad time. What a sad time.

970
01:06:01,878 --> 01:06:04,255
-It's so weird.
-[Nigro chuckles]

971
01:06:04,339 --> 01:06:08,677
It's so weird. Literally a year of my life
spent in this studio.

972
01:06:10,428 --> 01:06:13,473
[Nigro] I know.
Nothing will ever be the same.

973
01:06:13,973 --> 01:06:16,101
No. Hopefully not.

974
01:06:16,184 --> 01:06:19,062
Hopefully it won't be so sad
in the next **** record.

975
01:06:19,145 --> 01:06:22,857
[Nigro chuckling] It's like--
it's a bittersweet feeling.

976
01:06:22,941 --> 01:06:25,110
[Rodrigo chuckles] I know. So bittersweet.

977
01:06:25,193 --> 01:06:28,363
It's definitely, like,
the-last-day-of-school feeling.

978
01:06:35,245 --> 01:06:38,873
Coming from this place of hurt
and devastation,

979
01:06:38,957 --> 01:06:42,711
and you manage to turn it into something
that you're proud of

980
01:06:42,794 --> 01:06:44,629
and something that other people can enjoy,

981
01:06:44,713 --> 01:06:51,678
and something that brings acceptance
and, like, light and joy into the world,

982
01:06:51,761 --> 01:06:53,471
there's, like, nothing better than that.

983
01:06:53,555 --> 01:06:55,807
And there's, like, not a day
that, like, goes by

984
01:06:55,890 --> 01:06:58,143
that I'm not grateful for that opportunity

985
01:06:58,226 --> 01:07:01,563
and so proud of myself
that I, like, did that too.

986
01:07:07,402 --> 01:07:10,947
I've grown, like, five years' worth…
[chuckles] …in, like, one year.

987
01:07:11,031 --> 01:07:14,367
I think I'm so much of a different person
in a good way.

988
01:07:14,451 --> 01:07:18,621
I think I had to learn how to have, like,
thick skin and how to stand up for myself.

989
01:07:18,705 --> 01:07:21,499
And I think I just wanted to tell people
what was going on

990
01:07:21,583 --> 01:07:25,045
in the depths of my heart
and in the back of my head

991
01:07:25,128 --> 01:07:27,464
in a way that was proud.

992
01:07:30,633 --> 01:07:34,763
I think there's something so powerful
about that, especially as a young woman.

993
01:07:55,909 --> 01:07:57,243
[engine stops]

994
01:08:04,709 --> 01:08:07,087
["hope ur ok" playing]

995
01:08:17,972 --> 01:08:23,937
♪ I knew a boy once when I was small
A towhead blond with eyes of salt ♪

996
01:08:24,020 --> 01:08:26,815
♪ He played the drum
In the marching band ♪

997
01:08:30,026 --> 01:08:36,282
♪ His parents cared more about the Bible
Than being good to their own child ♪

998
01:08:36,366 --> 01:08:39,160
♪ He wore long sleeves 'cause of his dad ♪

999
01:08:41,496 --> 01:08:45,792
♪ And somehow we fell out of touch ♪

1000
01:08:47,210 --> 01:08:52,048
♪ Hope he took his bad deal
And made a royal flush ♪

1001
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:58,013
♪ Don't know if I'll see
You again someday ♪

1002
01:08:59,389 --> 01:09:01,433
♪ But if you're out there ♪

1003
01:09:04,519 --> 01:09:06,813
♪ I hope that you're okay ♪

1004
01:09:19,409 --> 01:09:25,540
♪ My middle school friend grew up alone
She raised her brothers on her own ♪

1005
01:09:25,623 --> 01:09:28,376
♪ Her parents hated who she loved ♪

1006
01:09:31,588 --> 01:09:34,841
♪ She couldn't wait to go to college ♪

1007
01:09:34,924 --> 01:09:38,261
♪ She was tired
'Cause she was brought into ♪

1008
01:09:38,345 --> 01:09:42,015
♪ A world where family was merely blood ♪

1009
01:09:42,807 --> 01:09:47,645
♪ Does she know how proud I am
She was created ♪

1010
01:09:49,022 --> 01:09:54,277
♪ With the courage to unlearn
All of their hatred? ♪

1011
01:09:55,362 --> 01:09:59,366
♪ We don't talk much
But I just gotta say ♪

1012
01:10:01,451 --> 01:10:02,660
♪ I miss you ♪

1013
01:10:05,997 --> 01:10:08,291
♪ And I hope that you're okay ♪

1014
01:10:08,375 --> 01:10:14,464
♪ Address the letters
To the holes in my butterfly wings ♪

1015
01:10:14,547 --> 01:10:20,762
♪ Nothing's forever
Nothing's as good as it seems ♪

1016
01:10:20,845 --> 01:10:26,935
♪ And when the clouds won't iron out
And the monsters creep into your house ♪

1017
01:10:27,018 --> 01:10:29,854
♪ And every door is hard to close ♪

1018
01:10:31,398 --> 01:10:36,820
♪ Well I hope you know how proud I am
You were created ♪

1019
01:10:38,154 --> 01:10:43,243
♪ With the courage to unlearn
All of their hatred ♪

1020
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,581
♪ And God, I hope
That you're happier today ♪

1021
01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:52,127
♪ 'Cause I love you ♪

1022
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:57,424
♪ And I hope that you're okay ♪

1023
01:10:57,507 --> 01:10:59,634
[music continuing]

1024
01:11:07,642 --> 01:11:09,978
♪ I hope that you're okay ♪

1025
01:11:10,061 --> 01:11:11,980
[music continues]

1026
01:11:47,349 --> 01:11:49,642
[music continues]

1027
01:12:07,660 --> 01:12:08,995
[song ends]

1028
01:12:10,997 --> 01:12:14,459
[Rodrigo]
♪ I know you're with somebody new ♪

1029
01:12:14,542 --> 01:12:18,213
♪ But I can't write a song
That's not all about you ♪

1030
01:12:18,296 --> 01:12:21,174
♪ It's not fair, baby ♪

1031
01:12:21,675 --> 01:12:24,678
♪ How come it's so easy ♪

1032
01:12:25,512 --> 01:12:28,848
♪ For you to forget everything you said? ♪

1033
01:12:29,683 --> 01:12:33,186
♪ Like how I was the best girl
That you'd ever met ♪

1034
01:12:33,269 --> 01:12:36,773
♪ Guess you take it back ♪

1035
01:12:36,856 --> 01:12:40,485
♪ Should've expected that ♪

1036
01:12:42,946 --> 01:12:48,034
♪ But when I say I'm fine
I'm lying really well ♪

1037
01:12:48,118 --> 01:12:51,996
♪ 'Cause I can't love anyone else ♪

1038
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,166
♪ And I'm so jealous that you can ♪

1039
01:12:55,667 --> 01:12:58,878
♪ Scared I'll never feel that again ♪

1040
01:12:58,962 --> 01:13:03,800
♪ 'Cause I still can't
Call anyone "baby" ♪

1041
01:13:03,883 --> 01:13:07,303
♪ 'Cause "baby" is still you to me ♪

1042
01:13:07,387 --> 01:13:10,724
♪ Don't you think I wanna move on too? ♪

1043
01:13:11,474 --> 01:13:17,689
♪ But I can't love anyone the way
The way I loved you ♪

1044
01:13:19,399 --> 01:13:20,775
[song ends]



