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[narrator] It is the first and
most highly documented alien
abduction story ever told.

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Betty and Barney Hill,

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a couple in love were driving
back from their honeymoon...

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when they were kidnapped
by a UFO.

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Now clasp your hands
in front of you.

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As they get tighter,
you're going to sleep.

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You're going to a deep,
deep sleep. Your eyes...

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[narrator] Rare interviews
under hypnosis,

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detail how alien beings
subjected the couple

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to disturbing experiments.

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[narrator]
Newly uncovered evidence

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and declassified government
documents confirm

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what happened to Betty
and Barney was real.

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[narrator] We are not alone.

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Extraterrestrials do exist.

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But what do they want from us?

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It was just an ordinary day
in America.

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Betty, a social worker and
Barney, a US postal employee

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were driving home after their
honeymoon in Niagara Falls.

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A trip as their niece
Kathleen explains,

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they would never forget.

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Betty and Barney had
a wonderful time
in Niagara Falls.

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They spent the following
afternoon in Montreal.

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They thought about spending
the night downtown.

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But they heard that there
was a hurricane
whirling up the coast.

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And they wanted to drive
through the night
if they could.

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I was 13 years old
and I had arrived home
from school in the afternoon.

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My mother was on the phone
with my aunt, Betty.

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And I heard my mother's side
of the conversation.

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When my mother hung up
the phone,

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she told me
that Betty and Barney

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had seen a flying saucer
up close the night before,

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they were concerned that they
might have been contaminated.

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I was in shock.

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I thought this was
very, very strange.

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[narrator]
This is a 1966 radio interview

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with Betty and Barney
in their own words.

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Now, as I understand it,

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we have to go back to 1961
to start this,

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this whole incident, don't we?

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Yes, that's right.
September 19th, 1961.

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[narrator] The night that
changed their lives forever.

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Betty had never seen
a satellite before.

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She knew that her father was
very interested in satellites.

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And so, Betty wondered
could this be a satellite?

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But then, she thought,
no, it's not behaving
like a satellite.

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[Barney speaking]

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It's clear at this point,
this was not a satellite.

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It does a circle.

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It seems to fly away to the
west and then come back
directly towards them.

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Barney is coming up
with the other explanations.

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Maybe it's a passenger jet.

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Maybe it's a military
helicopter.

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He's got all these
explanations because
that's how he thinks.

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Privately, he knew
that this was unusual.

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But he said to Betty,
"Oh, it's just a piper cub
or a commercial airliner.

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Don't even think about that
and let's get home.

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[narrator] But then, as they
continue driving south,

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Betty notices the aircraft
appears to be stalking them.

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Betty said to Barney,
"It's coming closer, Barney."

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As they looked at it,
it flew in a zigzag pattern

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and then it appeared to bounce
back and forth in the sky
like a ping-pong ball.

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[narrator]
Barney starts to panic.

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Up until now, the sighting
had been at quite a distance.

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But now that they've driven
down the road, several miles
and they look up.

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And it's still there.

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Fear starts to settle in.

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It knows that we're here.

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They're thinking this has
a particular interest in us.

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There's no other cars
on the highway.

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And this light is getting
brighter and it's getting
closer.

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[narrator]
The object, the metallic disc,

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the width and length
of a commercial airliner

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and as flat as a pancake
is now hovering over the road.

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Stunned and with nowhere
to go, Barney stops the car.

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Barney is now determined,
he's boiled over
not just with curiosity,

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but almost a sense of duty.

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I can't continue this trip

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until we get rid of this thing
or find out what it wants.

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So he gets out of the car

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and he starts walking
in the field to approach it.

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[Kathleen] Barney is
a confirmed skeptic.

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Barney does not believe

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that this planet could
possibly be visited by space
aliens from elsewhere.

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[narrator]
And then he sees them.

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Gray uniform
beings looking down.

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He sees occupants inside
of the craft, which is now
tilted towards him.

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[Kathleen] They're dressed
in shiny black uniforms.

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They were gray in complexion.

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They were completely hairless.

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They had eyes
that wrapped around

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to the sides of their faces
larger than human eyes.

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[Ben] We would describe
this as a Close Encounters
of the Third Kind.

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The witness is not just
seeing it at a distance,

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but they're actually seeing
occupants within the,
or outside of the craft.

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And windows are now visible

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with the occupants
looking at Barney

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who's staring at them
through binoculars.

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There's a direct,

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it seems, communication
as if to say we came for you

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and we're not going to be
satisfied until we get
what we want.

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Little red lights started
to slide out from the craft
on fin-like structures.

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And something started to drop
down from the bottom
of the craft.

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[Ben] Suddenly, Barney sees
what appears to be a ramp
or a ladder.

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And now, it seems like
the craft is transforming

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as someone is planning
to come out.

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[narrator] Sensing danger,
Barney rushes back to the car.

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Barney somehow knew
that there was a plan

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and that that plan
was to capture him
like, "a bug in a net."

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They had to get out of there
or they were going
to be captured.

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[narrator]
But it's already too late.

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[narrator] A close encounter
with a UFO sends Barney Hill

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and his wife, Betty,
into a panic.

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[Bryce] Betty and Barney
are now on the run.

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They know that something
is there that's not supposed
to be there.

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They know it's some kind
of flying saucer.

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They know that there are
creatures inside it.

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[narrator]
The beeps are unlike anything
they have ever heard.

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[narrator] Suddenly,
a tingling sensation comes
over both Betty and Barney.

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Then silence.

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As if suspended in a dream.

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[Kathleen] As if only a moment
had passed,

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Betty and Barney heard another
series of buzzing sounds.

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This time,
they didn't see the craft.

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But it returned them
to full consciousness.

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And they realized that they
were 35 miles down the highway

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with very little memory
of what had occurred
in the interim.

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When people see extraordinary
things, they can often be
in denial.

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You'd have to say that that
is possibly the case
with Barney Hill.

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He's still not believing it,
even though he's seen it
with his own eyes.

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[narrator]
After arriving home,
the Hills remain puzzled.

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They're both feeling
a little creeped out.

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You know how you feel grimy
after a long trip?

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They feel that,
but it's a little different.

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[Ben] Betty notices that her
dress has been ripped.

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She only bought this dress
just before and this is the
first time she's ever worn it.

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She takes it off.

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She feels like she doesn't
want to be associated with it

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and she puts it in her closet,
and never wears it again.

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He's just trying to figure out
what happened to him.

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And Barney doesn't
really know.

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And it's got him
deeply disturbed.

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[Kathleen] Betty was very
curious. She wanted
to learn more.

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But Barney said, Betty,
don't tell anyone.

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No good can ever come of this.

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And she disagreed.

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She walked to the phone
and she called my mother.

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We had a neighbor
who was a physicist.

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Betty was concerned
about the contamination.

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And so, she asked my mother
to call our neighbor

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to find out what she
and Barney should do.

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He told, Betty,
if she had a compass

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that she should take it out
to the car

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to see how the needle reacts.

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That's not going to measure
radiation,

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that's going to measure
a magnetic field.

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So apparently,
he knew something about UFOs

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that Betty and Barney
didn't know.

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Betty called my mother again.

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And the former Chief of Police
of Newton, New Hampshire

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was at the house
having a cup of coffee.

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He was my father's
best friend.

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And he said to tell Betty

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that she and Barney
need to make a report
to Pease Air Force Base.

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Because they had notified
all of the police departments

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that if anyone had a UFO
sighting, they should
report it.

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[Bryce] Peace Air Force Base
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in Portsmouth, New Hampshire
in 1961.

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Betty and Barney know people
that are involved
in the military there.

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She gets hold of somebody
at Peace Air Force Base

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who takes their story in
isn't that interested in it.

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Until they start talking
about the extension wings

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and red lights coming out,

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then he's very interested
in it.

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The next day, they actually
hear from a captain
Paul Henderson at Peace

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who wants to know
the whole story in detail.

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So suddenly, they've told this
story that is now being
taken very seriously.

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[narrator] Incredibly,
the Hills are told of another
sighting reported that night.

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The officer said that
the controller at the tower
had reported

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there was an unusual craft
seen on radar at 2:14 a.m.

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on the night that Betty and
Barney had their experience.

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[indistinct chatter]

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[narrator]
Could the two be related?

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[Kathleen] The following day,
my parents and my two brothers

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and I drove to Portsmouth
to Betty's and Barney's home.

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I was excited in anticipation
of hearing their story
for myself.

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And we finally arrived there.

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We went into the kitchen
with Betty.

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And she told us
about the close encounter.

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She told us about
the buzzing sounds.

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We wanted to see the spots
on the trunk of the car.

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So she took us down
the hallway
and out to the vehicle.

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I could see
those very shiny spots.

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And I took my finger.

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And I attempted to rub
a spot off.

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My mother saw me and said,
"Don't touch it,
don't touch that spot.

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It might harm you."

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And very quickly,
I was taken back into Betty's
and Barney's house.

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It was sort of an epiphany
in the sense

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that here is something
that I had no idea existed.

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But suddenly, I was clued
into the fact
that it was real.

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[narrator]
That epiphany will lead
Kathleen on a lifelong mission

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to uncover what really
happened to her aunt
and uncle that night...

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outside...

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and then inside the UFO.

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[narrator] Several days
after her UFO encounter,

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Betty Hill visits
her local library

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where she checks out
The Flying Saucer Conspiracy

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by retired Marine Corps
major Donald Keyhoe.

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Widely regarded
as a leading UFO expert,

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major Keyhoe is a proponent
of various theories
explaining UFOs,

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government cover-ups,

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and the threat
of interplanetary war.

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Major Keyhoe as an authority
on flying saucers,

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do you yourself believe
that they exist?

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Well, I'm positive they exist.

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The weight of the evidence
makes it impossible to arrive
at any other conclusion.

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What tangible evidence
do you have?

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Well, at least 800 reports
from trained observers,

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veteran pilots, radar men,
guided missile trackers,

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weather bureau observers,
all people who are trained
to know things in the sky,

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who describe these objects
maneuvering under
intelligent control.

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There are hundreds
of those reports

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where the sightings
were confirmed visually
and by radar,

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and in some cases
by photograph.

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[Ben]
There's kind of an evolution

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that takes place with UFOs
in the United States.

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In the 40s and into the 50s,

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the government was primarily
concerned with the panic.

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They wanted to be able
to control the reaction
of the public.

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There was an official
government policy
to ridicule and debunk

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and really make
the witnesses feel

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as if they are the fringe,
they are the crazy ones.

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And they don't deserve any
merit because people really
aren't seeing these things.

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So when the, the Hill incident
happens,

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it's among all of this frenzy
of UFO activity.

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But yet, people don't know
how to feel about it.

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[narrator] Curious to know
more about her own experience,

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Betty writes to major Keyhoe.

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She has begun, what will
become a lifelong search
for the truth.

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What she finds
will shock the world.

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Located an hour
north of Boston,

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Portsmouth is New Hampshire's
oldest settlement

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and only seaport.

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In addition to its historic
importance,

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by the 1960s,
the city and surrounding area

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had become noted
for its fishing industry...

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strategic military
importance...

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and beautiful beaches.

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[Kathleen] Betty was a child
welfare worker for the state
of New Hampshire.

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She cared for other people.

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She cared for children
who were being abused

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by their parents or children
who were being neglected.

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And then she worked
in adoption.

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She was eventually promoted
to the position of supervisor.

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She had an opinion
on everything.

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She loved to express it.

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And if you took her on
and you battled her about it,
she was even happier.

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She wanted to be part
of the world.

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[Kathleen] Betty met Barney at
Hampton Beach, New Hampshire,

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which was very close
to her home in Portsmouth.

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And she was working
during the summers down there
sometimes.

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Betty had friends
in Portsmouth
and they knew Barney.

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So they met
and she said to Barney,

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well, I have an apartment
that I rent to tourists.

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And if you and your family
ever come up here again,

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I'd be happy to rent it
to you.

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So it was sort of
a congenial relationship.

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Barney was highly intelligent.
His IQ was 140.

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He wanted to go to college
to become an engineer.

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But he was told
that that was not something

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that he would ever be
able to do

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because of the color
of his skin.

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He ended up joining the army
before the outbreak
of World War II.

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He was a marksman.
He was a truck driver.

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And he ended up being wounded.

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He then was able to get a job
at the Post Office.

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And he worked for the US
Post Office for many years.

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He married. He had two sons.
But he and his wife divorced.

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So this is when he began
a relationship with Betty.

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[narrator] Barney eventually
moves to Portsmouth.

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And after dating for a few
years, he and Betty marry.

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They were one of the few mixed
marriages in Portsmouth.

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Although Portsmouth this time,

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there was fairly large
African-American population.

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But you don't want
to think of Portsmouth

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or pretty much
any New England town

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as being a northern town
without racism.

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I mean, systemic racism
is the name of the game

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as much through New England
really as the south.

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Barney was one of the people
fighting this with Betty.

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He was an activist
in the NAACP.

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He was doing what he could
to bring this to light.

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Always leading to the idea

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that to come out
as an abductee of aliens

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was a huge risk on his part.

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And he was very concerned
about his personality

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and how he was seen
by other people.

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So this was a massive risk
to him,

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which I think leads
to the idea

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of how much he and Betty's
story is actually,
a love story.

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[narrator]
But little do they know
the UFO incident is not over

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and will continue
to haunt them.

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Ten days after their encounter
in the White Mountains,

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Betty suffers a series
of vivid dreams
that last over five nights.

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[Kathleen] In her dreams,
there was an encounter

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with very human-like entities.

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They surrounded the car

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and then they took Betty
and Barney onto the craft

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where they did highly
unusual physical examination.

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[narrator] In this rare
interview from 1968,

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Betty describes what happened
on board the alien craft.

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First, they took Barney
into one room and I went
into a second room.

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In this room, they did what
I would call a fairly simple
physical examination.

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They seem to have mostly
interest in my skin.

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I had the idea they were
taking pictures of my skin.

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Also, interest in my hands
and my feet.

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They also did a test
which they call checking
my nervous system.

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Throughout
the whole examination,

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it would be like picking up
some kind of a strange animal

323
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and looking it over,
giving it a checkup
and putting it back down again

324
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without any intentions
of harming it.

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[narrator] The vivid nature
of the dreams along with
the strange buzzing sounds

326
00:30:05.034 --> 00:30:08.551
are too much for Betty
to simply dismiss.

327
00:30:08.586 --> 00:30:14.206
She was wondering
if, if this somehow
represented reality.

328
00:30:16.103 --> 00:30:20.517
Now, she was a social worker.
She had studied psychology.

329
00:30:20.551 --> 00:30:25.827
And dreams that you have
just before you wake up
in the morning

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when you're sort of
in a hypnotic state

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00:30:29.551 --> 00:30:33.689
can include information
that really occurred.

332
00:30:33.724 --> 00:30:37.172
Yet, there can be
fantasy added.

333
00:30:37.206 --> 00:30:41.655
Betty initially jotted her
dreams down on note paper.

334
00:30:41.689 --> 00:30:45.379
And she couldn't forget
about them.

335
00:30:45.413 --> 00:30:49.379
And she spoke to her
supervisor who said to her.

336
00:30:49.413 --> 00:30:53.655
Maybe this represents
what really happened to you

337
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between those buzzing sounds.

338
00:30:56.103 --> 00:31:01.344
And maybe this is what
happened during that period
that you can't remember.

339
00:31:01.379 --> 00:31:05.000
So Betty sat down and
she typed those dreams out.

340
00:31:09.310 --> 00:31:12.275
[narrator]
Betty knew she and Barney saw
something that night.

341
00:31:14.413 --> 00:31:16.137
But what?

342
00:31:16.172 --> 00:31:18.551
What about those
buzzing sounds?

343
00:31:18.586 --> 00:31:22.448
Why did the car have those
strange shiny spots?

344
00:31:23.482 --> 00:31:26.000
Could her nightmares be true?

345
00:31:41.275 --> 00:31:46.344
[narrator] Betty Hill's letter
to Major Donald Keyhoe
generates interest at NICAP,

346
00:31:46.379 --> 00:31:50.517
the National Investigations
Committee on Aerial Phenomena.

347
00:31:50.551 --> 00:31:52.206
According to their records,

348
00:31:52.241 --> 00:31:54.758
similar looking
unidentified craft

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had been reported flying
over California, Kentucky
and Indiana.

350
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NICAP in the '50s and '60s
is one of the only legitimate
and true organizations

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00:32:05.724 --> 00:32:09.517
dedicated to the scientific
study of UFOs.

352
00:32:09.551 --> 00:32:11.862
Now, Project Blue Book
is the government's arm

353
00:32:11.896 --> 00:32:14.241
of the air force officially
investigating.

354
00:32:14.275 --> 00:32:16.310
But as a citizen group,

355
00:32:16.344 --> 00:32:19.586
only NICAP and a few others
were those who brought in

356
00:32:19.620 --> 00:32:22.862
scientists,
medical professionals

357
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and had a very rigid way
of investigating these events.

358
00:32:32.965 --> 00:32:38.655
[narrator]
In October, 1961, Boston-based
NICAP investigator Walter Webb

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interviews the Hills
at their home in Portsmouth,
New Hampshire.

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00:32:42.275 --> 00:32:46.068
[Kathleen] Walter Webb was an
investigator for NICAP.

361
00:32:46.103 --> 00:32:50.068
He wanted to know,
in as much detail as possible,

362
00:32:50.103 --> 00:32:53.551
where the sighting
occurred initially.

363
00:32:55.275 --> 00:32:57.586
How the craft reacted.

364
00:32:58.724 --> 00:33:01.793
How this changed
as they observed it.

365
00:33:03.068 --> 00:33:06.827
What Barney saw
as he stood in that field.

366
00:33:13.034 --> 00:33:17.896
Walter Webb believed their
story because they didn't
enlarge on it.

367
00:33:17.931 --> 00:33:21.965
They were serious
in retelling what happened.

368
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.551
They were consistent
in their details.

369
00:33:25.586 --> 00:33:30.172
Because he interviewed them
separately before he
interviewed them together.

370
00:33:30.206 --> 00:33:32.965
And so, everything meshed.

371
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:39.137
He thought that they were
reliable, intelligent
individuals,

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with no reason to want to
make something like this up.

373
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The scientific community, at
least those who are interested
in the subject, took note

374
00:33:48.724 --> 00:33:51.172
that we have some very
credible witnesses here.

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00:33:51.206 --> 00:33:54.000
They're in high standing
in society.

376
00:33:54.034 --> 00:33:55.379
They have a lot to lose.

377
00:33:55.413 --> 00:33:57.724
And so,
given the credibility of it,

378
00:33:57.758 --> 00:34:02.000
it's kind of one of the first
times that many of them
had taken note

379
00:34:02.034 --> 00:34:05.655
that we should listen
to the alleged abductees.

380
00:34:12.758 --> 00:34:14.068
[narrator] A few weeks later,

381
00:34:14.103 --> 00:34:17.000
when another set
of investigators
question the Hills,

382
00:34:17.034 --> 00:34:19.034
they make a startling
revelation.

383
00:34:44.758 --> 00:34:48.862
[narrator]
What happened during those
two hours of missing time?

384
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[Barney speaking]

385
00:35:01.827 --> 00:35:03.517
[Bryce] Imagine you're
Betty and Barney,

386
00:35:03.551 --> 00:35:05.965
you've seen this UFO,
you've seen these creatures

387
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:10.137
and then you begin to realize
that there's a couple hours
that are unaccounted for.

388
00:35:10.172 --> 00:35:12.034
They started to get an inkling

389
00:35:12.068 --> 00:35:17.000
that maybe there was more
to that two-hour period
than it first met the eye.

390
00:35:22.275 --> 00:35:27.068
[narrator]
Could Betty's dreams be
nightmares of something real?

391
00:35:27.103 --> 00:35:32.344
Is it possible they
were abducted by aliens
during the missing time?

392
00:35:32.379 --> 00:35:35.034
Betty and Barney decide
to investigate further.

393
00:35:36.310 --> 00:35:40.793
Shortly after Betty and Barney
met with Homan & Jackson,

394
00:35:40.827 --> 00:35:45.310
they made trips
up to the White Mountains.

395
00:35:45.344 --> 00:35:51.758
They were attempting
to remember more to jog their
memories of what had occurred.

396
00:35:56.413 --> 00:36:01.172
In Betty's dreams, she
remembered a huge fiery orb

397
00:36:01.206 --> 00:36:05.310
that seemed to be sitting
on the ground of a roadblock.

398
00:36:05.344 --> 00:36:08.206
But she didn't know where
or when that occurred

399
00:36:08.241 --> 00:36:12.172
of a dirt road with tall trees
all around.

400
00:36:12.206 --> 00:36:14.275
And this was very perplexing.

401
00:36:20.827 --> 00:36:23.862
[Ben]
The whole experience from the
days, the months and the years

402
00:36:23.896 --> 00:36:28.413
after the event took a major
toll on their relationship.

403
00:36:30.551 --> 00:36:35.172
Betty wanted to understand
this and to unlock
the secrets,

404
00:36:35.206 --> 00:36:37.586
if you will, of everything
that happened.

405
00:36:37.620 --> 00:36:40.137
What were the events
that were haunting her?

406
00:36:41.517 --> 00:36:43.344
Barney wanted to keep quiet.

407
00:36:43.379 --> 00:36:45.379
He didn't want it to affect
their public life

408
00:36:45.413 --> 00:36:47.620
and his standing
in the civil rights movements

409
00:36:47.655 --> 00:36:51.068
and everything
that they were involved in.

410
00:36:51.103 --> 00:36:56.413
Barney was still attempting
to forget about it,
but he wouldn't.

411
00:36:56.448 --> 00:37:03.275
It was really eating away at
him and was deeply troubling.

412
00:37:04.448 --> 00:37:06.655
[narrator] Concerned over
a worsening ulcer,

413
00:37:06.689 --> 00:37:10.068
Barney visits a psychiatrist
hoping to find relief.

414
00:37:56.655 --> 00:37:59.655
[narrator] Barney prepares
to go under hypnosis.

415
00:37:59.689 --> 00:38:03.068
After years of blocking out
what happened,

416
00:38:03.103 --> 00:38:07.137
will Barney finally come
face-to-face with his demons?

417
00:38:24.034 --> 00:38:27.448
[narrator] Two years
after the UFO encounter,

418
00:38:27.482 --> 00:38:30.551
Betty and Barney Hill travel
to Boston

419
00:38:30.586 --> 00:38:33.655
for a visit with one of the
country's leading experts

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00:38:33.689 --> 00:38:37.827
in regressive hypnosis,
Dr. Benjamin Simon.

421
00:38:39.862 --> 00:38:44.344
Dr. Simon had earned a
reputation for himself when he
was a colonel in the army.

422
00:38:45.655 --> 00:38:47.758
He developed
a special technique

423
00:38:47.793 --> 00:38:52.793
using deep trance hypnosis
in order to resolve the trauma

424
00:38:52.827 --> 00:38:57.344
that soldiers who were
returning from the war
had experienced.

425
00:38:57.379 --> 00:39:00.103
That caused physiological
ailments.

426
00:39:00.137 --> 00:39:01.965
When I snapped my finger,
you'll be able to let go

427
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.379
and then you'll get sleepy and
your eyes are getting heavier.

428
00:39:07.413 --> 00:39:10.793
[narrator]
Is it possible that Betty and
Barney were experiencing

429
00:39:10.827 --> 00:39:14.103
post-traumatic stress
after their UFO encounter?

430
00:39:17.586 --> 00:39:19.931
And could Dr. Simon help them?

431
00:39:23.137 --> 00:39:27.827
In a rare interview, Dr. Simon
discusses his treatment
of the Hills.

432
00:40:01.448 --> 00:40:02.827
[narrator]
Over the next six months,

433
00:40:02.862 --> 00:40:06.724
both Betty and Barney undergo
a series of treatments.

434
00:40:06.758 --> 00:40:11.413
During these sessions,
Dr. Simon induces them
into a deep trance.

435
00:40:11.448 --> 00:40:15.586
Now, clasp your hands in front
of you tight, tight, tight,
tight, tight, tighter.

436
00:40:15.620 --> 00:40:17.172
As they get tighter,
you're going to sleep.

437
00:40:17.206 --> 00:40:19.034
You're going to a deep,
deep sleep.

438
00:40:19.068 --> 00:40:20.344
Your eyes are getting heavy.

439
00:40:20.379 --> 00:40:22.482
They're closing.
They're closing tight.

440
00:40:22.517 --> 00:40:25.724
Now, your hands are relaxed.
We're going back.

441
00:40:25.758 --> 00:40:30.310
We're going back to September
19th, 1961, when you were
returning from your vacation.

442
00:40:30.344 --> 00:40:33.275
We're going back to September
19th, 1961.

443
00:40:58.655 --> 00:41:00.103
[narrator]
While under hypnosis,

444
00:41:00.137 --> 00:41:03.724
Barney recalls everything
in his conscious memory,

445
00:41:03.758 --> 00:41:06.275
including the drive
through the White Mountains

446
00:41:06.310 --> 00:41:09.310
and seeing the strange light
up in the sky.

447
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:17.344
But when he gets to the part
about standing out in a field
and seeing a UFO,

448
00:41:17.379 --> 00:41:20.862
a mental block forms,
a panic sets in.

449
00:41:59.758 --> 00:42:05.206
When Dr. Simon pushes Barney
to go beyond

450
00:42:05.241 --> 00:42:08.172
that mental block
that he had developed,

451
00:42:08.206 --> 00:42:11.413
Barney says, "Please, doctor,
don't make me go there,

452
00:42:11.448 --> 00:42:13.379
please don't let me
remember that."

453
00:42:13.413 --> 00:42:16.827
And Dr. Simon said,
"You will remember that.

454
00:42:16.862 --> 00:42:18.344
It won't hurt you now."

455
00:42:49.034 --> 00:42:50.724
[Dr. Simon] Calm down.

456
00:42:50.758 --> 00:42:56.482
Barney had a very explosive
what's called an abreaction,

457
00:42:56.517 --> 00:43:00.896
where he released a great deal
of emotion.

458
00:43:04.551 --> 00:43:08.034
[narrator] Dr. Simon guides
Barney past his mental block,

459
00:43:08.068 --> 00:43:13.793
where he recalls for the first
time a powerful force
controlling him.

460
00:43:58.482 --> 00:44:01.034
[Bryce] Listening to Barney
is very difficult.

461
00:44:01.068 --> 00:44:03.103
He's hysterical.
He's screaming.

462
00:44:03.137 --> 00:44:07.724
He is reliving the most
terrifying moments
of his entire life.

463
00:44:07.758 --> 00:44:09.758
This is a man
that was in World War II.

464
00:44:13.137 --> 00:44:15.965
[narrator] Later, during
another hypnosis session,

465
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:22.275
Barney recalls hearing
the mysterious beeps
and what happens next.

466
00:44:22.310 --> 00:44:27.206
Suddenly, he's driving,
and he's driving,
and he's driving.

467
00:44:27.241 --> 00:44:29.896
And he makes a turn.

468
00:44:29.931 --> 00:44:36.379
And he says, "I don't know
why I had to make that turn."

469
00:44:36.413 --> 00:44:41.241
And then he finds himself
on a dirt road with tall trees
all around.

470
00:44:51.620 --> 00:44:54.758
There's a fiery orb
that he sees.

471
00:44:54.793 --> 00:45:01.241
And he sees these entities
standing in the road dressed
in shiny black uniforms.

472
00:45:01.275 --> 00:45:03.793
And then Barney says,
it's them.

473
00:45:07.931 --> 00:45:11.931
It's the ones I saw when
I was standing in the field

474
00:45:11.965 --> 00:45:14.586
looking through binoculars.

475
00:45:14.620 --> 00:45:19.689
[narrator] As the entities
close in on the car,
this time, there is no escape.

476
00:45:28.413 --> 00:45:34.068
[narrator] In early 1964,
two years
after her UFO encounter,

477
00:45:34.103 --> 00:45:39.034
Betty Hill also undergoes
hypnosis designed to recall
what happened that night.

478
00:45:45.862 --> 00:45:52.724
Under hypnosis, Betty
remembers everything that
she had conscious recall for.

479
00:45:52.758 --> 00:45:58.862
And then she remembers
Barney taking a sharp turn
in the road

480
00:45:58.896 --> 00:46:03.034
and they were then
on a dirt road with tall trees
all around.

481
00:46:32.793 --> 00:46:35.275
There were figures standing
in the road.

482
00:46:35.310 --> 00:46:38.413
And she observed
this huge fiery orb.

483
00:46:40.551 --> 00:46:44.586
And she's talking to Barney,
what is this?

484
00:46:44.620 --> 00:46:47.413
Are we being robbed?
Is there an accident ahead?

485
00:46:47.448 --> 00:46:50.241
Barney says to Betty,
"It's them."

486
00:46:54.068 --> 00:46:56.206
Betty becomes terrified.

487
00:46:56.241 --> 00:47:00.931
She has never been so
terrified in her entire life.

488
00:47:00.965 --> 00:47:02.758
She puts her hand on the door.

489
00:47:02.793 --> 00:47:05.517
She's going to run
into the woods to hide,

490
00:47:05.551 --> 00:47:09.482
but she's intercepted
and she loses consciousness.

491
00:47:12.413 --> 00:47:14.137
[narrator]
The next thing Betty remembers

492
00:47:14.172 --> 00:47:17.551
is the alien beings escorting
her through the woods

493
00:47:17.586 --> 00:47:19.689
and onto the spacecraft.

494
00:47:41.724 --> 00:47:46.413
[Kathleen] They're saying to
Betty, there's nothing to be
afraid of,

495
00:47:46.448 --> 00:47:49.034
we only need to do
a few simple tests,

496
00:47:49.068 --> 00:47:53.724
you won't be harmed
and then you'll very quickly
be on your way.

497
00:47:53.758 --> 00:47:55.103
She doesn't trust them.

498
00:47:57.275 --> 00:48:01.517
She kicks the one
who is beside her...

499
00:48:03.103 --> 00:48:05.586
and this tears the hem
on her dress down...

500
00:48:07.517 --> 00:48:11.724
and tears the lining of the
dress from waist to hemline.

501
00:48:11.758 --> 00:48:14.034
They've regained control
of her.

502
00:48:14.068 --> 00:48:18.137
And she is taken into an
examining room on the craft.

503
00:48:32.482 --> 00:48:36.275
[narrator] That's where Betty
meets someone she calls
the Examiner.

504
00:49:07.137 --> 00:49:13.827
They use some kind of stylus
pressing on the vertebrae
in her spine.

505
00:49:16.758 --> 00:49:18.931
They take skin samples.

506
00:50:07.827 --> 00:50:12.724
[sobbing]

507
00:51:26.862 --> 00:51:29.379
[narrator]
And then it was Barney's turn.

508
00:51:43.344 --> 00:51:46.551
[narrator] While under
hypnosis, Barney Hill recalls

509
00:51:46.586 --> 00:51:49.034
how after being abducted
by entities,

510
00:51:49.068 --> 00:51:51.896
he too was subjected
to a physical examination.

511
00:51:53.586 --> 00:51:57.413
Barney is placed on a table
and his clothes removed.

512
00:52:00.206 --> 00:52:05.206
They are interested in his
muscular structure as well.

513
00:52:05.241 --> 00:52:08.310
In his nervous system,
he's rolled over.

514
00:52:08.344 --> 00:52:14.310
He can feel what seems to be
something pushing along
the vertebrae in his spine.

515
00:52:51.172 --> 00:52:56.275
[Kathleen] Something slid
very easily
into Barney's rectum

516
00:52:56.310 --> 00:52:58.344
and then was removed
very rapidly.

517
00:52:58.379 --> 00:52:59.896
It wasn't painful.

518
00:52:59.931 --> 00:53:05.034
Then kind of a cup-like
device was placed
over his genitals.

519
00:53:05.068 --> 00:53:08.655
There was apparently
a sperm sample taken.

520
00:53:11.034 --> 00:53:12.655
[narrator]
And then it was over.

521
00:53:18.103 --> 00:53:20.482
After completing
their examinations,

522
00:53:20.517 --> 00:53:24.724
the entities escort
the Hills off the ship
and back to their car.

523
00:55:33.862 --> 00:55:38.344
[narrator] It is the most
extraordinary story
Dr. Simon has ever heard.

524
00:55:38.379 --> 00:55:40.862
[Betty] I've never been
so afraid in my life.

525
00:55:40.896 --> 00:55:43.241
[narrator]
Were these made-up memories?

526
00:55:43.275 --> 00:55:47.379
Or did Barney and Betty
really get abducted by aliens?

527
00:56:19.344 --> 00:56:22.241
[Bryce] Dr. Simon felt
that the best explanation

528
00:56:22.275 --> 00:56:24.344
might very well be
that the two of them

529
00:56:24.379 --> 00:56:27.000
had had some kind of
transference between them

530
00:56:27.034 --> 00:56:30.724
allowing them to sort of
create and build the story

531
00:56:30.758 --> 00:56:34.551
that Betty might have
had a stronger feeling
about this

532
00:56:34.586 --> 00:56:39.620
and her memories or dreams
contaminated Barney's memories
or dreams.

533
00:56:39.655 --> 00:56:41.655
But he wasn't accusing
them of hoaxing.

534
00:56:41.689 --> 00:56:45.034
He just felt that it was
a psychological condition.

535
00:56:47.344 --> 00:56:51.034
[narrator] While grateful
for the chance to tell their
stories through hypnosis,

536
00:56:51.068 --> 00:56:56.620
Betty and Barney disagree
with Dr. Simon's conclusions.

537
00:56:56.655 --> 00:57:00.793
They believe their independent
accounts or further
confirmation

538
00:57:00.827 --> 00:57:03.862
that what they experienced
was real.

539
00:57:06.344 --> 00:57:09.724
[Kathleen]
They couldn't go along
with Dr. Simon's suggestions

540
00:57:09.758 --> 00:57:15.000
that this had to be Barney's
absorbing Betty's dreams.

541
00:57:15.034 --> 00:57:19.758
And so, Barney just accepted
it as real.

542
00:57:19.793 --> 00:57:24.931
And he felt a lot better
because he had military
officers

543
00:57:24.965 --> 00:57:28.482
who were encouraging him,
who were telling him

544
00:57:28.517 --> 00:57:31.379
that, yes, all of these things
are true

545
00:57:31.413 --> 00:57:35.413
that we know there are
extraterrestrial craft coming
to visit our planet.

546
00:57:35.448 --> 00:57:37.172
And there's no reason
to believe

547
00:57:37.206 --> 00:57:39.448
that they're not
visiting humans.

548
00:57:39.482 --> 00:57:42.655
And so,
Barney felt much better.

549
00:57:45.413 --> 00:57:49.448
[narrator] While the Hills
are comforted that the truth
has come to light,

550
00:57:49.482 --> 00:57:51.448
they're determined
to keep it private.

551
00:57:54.689 --> 00:57:56.379
Little do they know,

552
00:57:56.413 --> 00:58:02.000
it's impossible to keep the
first and greatest abduction
story ever told,

553
00:58:02.034 --> 00:58:04.724
secret for long.

554
00:58:20.068 --> 00:58:25.862
By the fall of 1965,
four years have passed since
the Hill's UFO encounter.

555
00:58:26.965 --> 00:58:29.689
Their hypnosis sessions
too were in the past.

556
00:58:30.931 --> 00:58:32.758
Barney was now feeling better.

557
00:58:32.793 --> 00:58:36.793
And so, he and Betty had moved
on with their lives.

558
00:58:36.827 --> 00:58:41.551
[Kathleen] Barney was still
so involved
in the civil rights movement

559
00:58:41.586 --> 00:58:44.482
and his speaking engagements.

560
00:58:44.517 --> 00:58:49.655
Because that was what
he was really truly fighting
for, was civil rights.

561
00:58:51.965 --> 00:58:53.827
[narrator]
But then, in October...

562
00:58:55.137 --> 00:58:58.206
their lives turn upside down
once again

563
00:58:58.241 --> 00:59:02.068
when theBoston Traveler
prints a five-part series

564
00:59:02.103 --> 00:59:06.448
detailing the Hill's UFO
sighting and hypnosis
sessions.

565
00:59:08.793 --> 00:59:10.655
[Kathleen] It was
a huge story.

566
00:59:10.689 --> 00:59:13.655
It ran for five days
in the newspaper.

567
00:59:13.689 --> 00:59:17.137
Betty and Barney were
extremely distressed.

568
00:59:17.172 --> 00:59:19.827
The Boston Traveler
newspaper series,

569
00:59:19.862 --> 00:59:22.827
it blew the cover off
the story

570
00:59:22.862 --> 00:59:25.103
that they've been telling
a small group of people

571
00:59:25.137 --> 00:59:26.379
to a large group of people.

572
00:59:29.724 --> 00:59:31.344
When I first heard
about the story,

573
00:59:31.379 --> 00:59:36.758
I couldn't imagine that
somebody would either come up
with that or lie about it

574
00:59:36.793 --> 00:59:38.758
for several years,

575
00:59:38.793 --> 00:59:42.965
and meet with Air Force
officials and just make up
a story.

576
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:44.931
I mean, why would somebody
do that?

577
00:59:44.965 --> 00:59:50.034
And especially, two Portsmouth
people who were very
respectable and respected.

578
00:59:51.689 --> 00:59:56.448
There was a violation
of confidentiality in 1965.

579
00:59:58.034 --> 01:00:02.862
John Luttrell who was
a reporter for theBoston
Traveler in Boston

580
01:00:02.896 --> 01:00:08.758
had received
confidential information
from a friend of Betty's.

581
01:00:08.793 --> 01:00:11.896
And this woman had told him
everything that she knew

582
01:00:11.931 --> 01:00:14.862
about the encounter
and the hypnosis.

583
01:00:14.896 --> 01:00:18.482
He contacted Betty and Barney
and wanted to interview them.

584
01:00:18.517 --> 01:00:23.206
Betty and Barney said, no, we
do not want this story told.

585
01:00:30.482 --> 01:00:32.068
[narrator]
In this rare interview,

586
01:00:32.103 --> 01:00:35.241
award-winning investigative
reporter John Luttrell

587
01:00:35.275 --> 01:00:38.000
explains why he went ahead
with the story.

588
01:00:39.482 --> 01:00:42.862
These people deserved every
single consideration.

589
01:00:42.896 --> 01:00:46.137
But then, where do you draw
the line

590
01:00:46.172 --> 01:00:49.517
between maintaining a certain
degree of personal privacy

591
01:00:49.551 --> 01:00:52.344
or the public's right to know?

592
01:00:52.379 --> 01:00:54.586
And in making this decision,

593
01:00:54.620 --> 01:00:58.655
it had to be made abundantly
clear to all of the readers
that number one,

594
01:00:58.689 --> 01:01:02.655
the Hills themselves
did not initiate this
with theBoston Traveler.

595
01:01:02.689 --> 01:01:07.000
They have not chosen to talk
about any of the incidents
at all.

596
01:01:10.551 --> 01:01:13.137
[narrator] The sensational
tale of an alien abduction

597
01:01:13.172 --> 01:01:16.206
thrusts Betty and Barney
into the public spotlight.

598
01:01:18.172 --> 01:01:23.275
This had an impact
not only on Betty and Barney,
but on the entire family.

599
01:01:23.310 --> 01:01:29.241
We were a very respectable
family who had many
accomplishments.

600
01:01:29.275 --> 01:01:34.241
And we sat down and we talked
about how should we handle
this?

601
01:01:34.275 --> 01:01:37.034
Where will we go from here?

602
01:01:37.068 --> 01:01:42.793
And we decided as a family
that since it did
in fact happen

603
01:01:42.827 --> 01:01:49.103
and since the story had
been told that Betty and
Barney should tell the truth.

604
01:01:50.965 --> 01:01:54.000
[narrator] Unable to avoid
the intense media spotlight,

605
01:01:54.034 --> 01:01:57.862
the Hills cooperate
with author John Fuller
in the writing

606
01:01:57.896 --> 01:02:04.206
ofThe Interrupted Journey:
Two Lost Hours
Aboard a Flying Saucer.

607
01:02:04.241 --> 01:02:07.482
[Kathleen] The Interrupted
Journey
went worldwide.

608
01:02:07.517 --> 01:02:10.103
It was aNew York Times
bestseller.

609
01:02:10.137 --> 01:02:13.000
There was a tremendous
amount of public interest.

610
01:02:14.655 --> 01:02:18.206
[Bryce]
They literally shook the world
when their story came out.

611
01:02:26.965 --> 01:02:28.931
In today's terms,
The Interrupted Journey

612
01:02:28.965 --> 01:02:32.448
was like the final movie
in the AvengersSaga.

613
01:02:32.482 --> 01:02:33.793
I mean, it was huge.

614
01:02:33.827 --> 01:02:35.965
I mean, everybody
knew about it.

615
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:37.896
It was a book club selection.

616
01:02:37.931 --> 01:02:40.620
It was excerpted in newspapers
around the country.

617
01:02:40.655 --> 01:02:41.827
People couldn't get enough
of it.

618
01:02:41.862 --> 01:02:46.275
[screaming]

619
01:02:47.275 --> 01:02:51.310
Betty's story, which is
so dramatically told

620
01:02:51.344 --> 01:02:54.413
in which she's talking
to the aliens.

621
01:02:54.448 --> 01:02:56.620
There's all these things
that are going on.

622
01:02:56.655 --> 01:02:58.034
This story wrote itself.

623
01:02:59.689 --> 01:03:02.172
[Bryce] What makes
the Betty and
Barney case so extraordinary

624
01:03:02.206 --> 01:03:04.344
is it's just a case
about first.

625
01:03:04.379 --> 01:03:07.000
They were the first Americans
to claim to be abducted.

626
01:03:07.034 --> 01:03:10.862
It's the first time
that anyone had missing time.

627
01:03:11.551 --> 01:03:13.310
[indistinct]

628
01:03:13.344 --> 01:03:17.758
It's the first time that
hypnosis was used
to regress people

629
01:03:17.793 --> 01:03:19.172
to recover those memories.

630
01:03:19.206 --> 01:03:23.448
And it's also the first time
that anyone had described
the aliens

631
01:03:23.482 --> 01:03:27.000
as what is now popularly
known as the greys.

632
01:03:27.034 --> 01:03:31.068
So Betty and Barney
really just laid the template
out there.

633
01:03:36.103 --> 01:03:38.517
[narrator] The story explodes
into popular culture

634
01:03:38.551 --> 01:03:41.896
when book excerpts are
reprinted inLook Magazine.

635
01:03:43.034 --> 01:03:46.655
You got to remember that
if this is not like today,

636
01:03:46.689 --> 01:03:49.275
it's not like we each have
our own radio station

637
01:03:49.310 --> 01:03:52.655
and our own podcast and our
own TV channel that we watch
exclusively.

638
01:03:53.482 --> 01:03:55.482
There was minimum amount
of media.

639
01:03:55.517 --> 01:03:57.241
And so, they end up
inLook Magazine.

640
01:03:57.275 --> 01:03:58.379
That's huge.

641
01:04:03.275 --> 01:04:06.655
The book release changed
Betty's and Barney's lives,

642
01:04:06.689 --> 01:04:12.379
because Barney had been
appointed to the US Civil
Rights Commission.

643
01:04:12.413 --> 01:04:18.758
He also was very actively
involved in politics,
as was Betty.

644
01:04:18.793 --> 01:04:23.172
And they had to put
those activities aside
for the time being.

645
01:04:23.206 --> 01:04:29.689
And to publicize this book,
they took time off from work.

646
01:04:29.724 --> 01:04:32.655
So that they could travel
to do television shows.

647
01:04:32.689 --> 01:04:36.413
-What is your name, please?
-My name is Barney Hill.

648
01:04:36.448 --> 01:04:40.379
And they did many,
many radio shows as well.

649
01:04:41.517 --> 01:04:43.206
My name is Barney Hill.

650
01:04:45.241 --> 01:04:48.517
This was kind of exciting
to our family.

651
01:04:48.551 --> 01:04:51.068
Because at that point,

652
01:04:51.103 --> 01:04:56.068
we believed that finally
this was being acknowledged
as real.

653
01:04:56.103 --> 01:04:59.965
Which one of these
three gentlemen in truth
is Barney Hill?

654
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.827
Will the real Barney Hill
please stand up?

655
01:05:07.172 --> 01:05:10.344
[applauding]

656
01:05:15.655 --> 01:05:18.000
[narrator] The publicity
surrounding the abduction

657
01:05:18.034 --> 01:05:19.758
brings out a number
of skeptics

658
01:05:19.793 --> 01:05:25.793
who refuse to believe the
Hills, leaving many to wonder,
what really happened?

659
01:05:28.689 --> 01:05:33.931
It's a question Kathleen
has been trying to answer
since she was a teenager.

660
01:05:53.448 --> 01:05:57.931
For the past 40 years, Betty
and Barney's niece Kathleen

661
01:05:57.965 --> 01:06:01.517
has been investigating
the truth behind
the Hill abduction.

662
01:06:03.241 --> 01:06:05.758
[Kathleen] I decided
to investigate
this story

663
01:06:05.793 --> 01:06:11.551
because I was hearing
about it on television,

664
01:06:11.586 --> 01:06:17.034
I was reading about it
in magazine articles
and newspaper articles.

665
01:06:17.068 --> 01:06:22.034
But what I was reading was not
consistent with my memories
of what actually occurred.

666
01:06:24.379 --> 01:06:29.000
[narrator] In the process,
she has uncovered classified
documents kept secret

667
01:06:29.034 --> 01:06:32.206
and a government conspiracy
to hide the truth.

668
01:06:32.241 --> 01:06:37.034
I wanted to look at the
Project Blue Book documents

669
01:06:37.068 --> 01:06:41.137
that had been recorded
at Pease Air Force Base,

670
01:06:41.172 --> 01:06:44.379
but also the documents
that went to headquarters.

671
01:06:44.413 --> 01:06:49.034
I wanted to find any evidence
of further investigation

672
01:06:49.068 --> 01:06:52.344
that was done by the Air Force
and further documentation.

673
01:06:54.896 --> 01:07:00.931
I found that a false letter
was written in 1963

674
01:07:00.965 --> 01:07:05.862
that contradicted
the results of Betty's
and Barney's statements

675
01:07:05.896 --> 01:07:08.034
in the Project Blue Book
report.

676
01:07:09.896 --> 01:07:13.827
Betty and Barney talked about
the movement of the craft,

677
01:07:13.862 --> 01:07:20.379
how it moved erratically
in a zigzag fashion,
how it swooped down.

678
01:07:20.413 --> 01:07:25.965
So I wanted to compare that
to what was written in 1963.

679
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:32.551
In '63, it said that it was a
star-like object at all times

680
01:07:32.586 --> 01:07:35.724
and that there
was no movement.

681
01:07:36.517 --> 01:07:39.275
And so, that was just a lie.

682
01:07:39.310 --> 01:07:43.551
Over the years, there's
certainly been a lot of debate
back and forth

683
01:07:43.586 --> 01:07:46.068
about why doesn't
the government just tell us
what it knows.

684
01:07:46.103 --> 01:07:47.896
And the government has said,

685
01:07:47.931 --> 01:07:51.724
"Well, there's really nothing
to see here"
and tried to minimize it.

686
01:07:51.758 --> 01:07:54.000
And it's even worse
on the abduction phenomenon,

687
01:07:54.034 --> 01:07:58.965
which nobody seems to,
to want to talk about
on an official capacity.

688
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.896
And it's really not a surprise
because why would they,

689
01:08:01.931 --> 01:08:05.000
if what happened to Betty
and Barney has been repeated

690
01:08:05.034 --> 01:08:10.931
hundreds, thousands or tens of
thousands of times since 1961.

691
01:08:10.965 --> 01:08:15.068
What that says is we have
a really out of control
situation going on.

692
01:08:21.896 --> 01:08:25.689
One of the greatest pieces
of evidence that the Betty
and Barney Hill case

693
01:08:25.724 --> 01:08:31.551
could so desperately use would
be a bunch of witnesses
saying, I saw that thing too.

694
01:08:31.586 --> 01:08:34.137
And that is what
the original reporter

695
01:08:34.172 --> 01:08:37.137
for the Boston Traveler,
John Luttrell thought he had.

696
01:08:39.310 --> 01:08:44.241
[narrator] In 1976, John
Luttrell admitted to
interviewing these witnesses

697
01:08:44.275 --> 01:08:47.448
in a letter to nuclear
physicist
and UFO investigator,

698
01:08:47.482 --> 01:08:49.862
Stanton Friedman.

699
01:08:49.896 --> 01:08:55.586
Before Stanton Friedman passed
away, he gave me a letter
written by John Luttrell.

700
01:09:00.689 --> 01:09:07.793
And John Luttrell spoke
of 12 to 14 people
in the White Mountains

701
01:09:07.827 --> 01:09:11.551
who had observed a craft
by the same description

702
01:09:11.586 --> 01:09:14.689
on the same night
in the same time frame

703
01:09:14.724 --> 01:09:17.068
that Betty and Barney
saw this.

704
01:09:20.206 --> 01:09:22.896
His editors didn't feel that
that needed to be included

705
01:09:22.931 --> 01:09:26.517
in the five articles
that he wrote in 1965.

706
01:09:26.551 --> 01:09:29.655
Well, when Luttrell left
the Boston Traveler,

707
01:09:29.689 --> 01:09:34.827
he actually gave the file
to his editor with
all those witnesses in it.

708
01:09:34.862 --> 01:09:36.103
And guess what?

709
01:09:36.137 --> 01:09:38.482
That file has disappeared.

710
01:09:47.137 --> 01:09:49.241
[narrator] Perhaps the most
compelling clue

711
01:09:49.275 --> 01:09:53.172
is the dress Betty wore
the night of her abduction.

712
01:09:53.206 --> 01:09:55.620
[Kathleen] She had placed it
in her closet.

713
01:09:55.655 --> 01:10:00.862
And the next time she took it
out, she thought about
throwing the dress away.

714
01:10:00.896 --> 01:10:03.931
But on second thought,
she thought she would keep it

715
01:10:03.965 --> 01:10:07.206
because it might hold a clue
to what happened that night.

716
01:10:11.034 --> 01:10:14.482
[Ben] Over the years,
several tests
have been done on this dress,

717
01:10:14.517 --> 01:10:18.034
where there are areas where
it appears there are stains.

718
01:10:21.551 --> 01:10:27.724
Now, some of these results
indicate that there's an
organic material of some sort.

719
01:10:27.758 --> 01:10:31.586
But it wasn't until recently
when I re-examined the dress

720
01:10:31.620 --> 01:10:33.965
that I found something
very, very peculiar.

721
01:10:35.724 --> 01:10:39.620
Now, we knew about several
stains from the outside.

722
01:10:39.655 --> 01:10:42.413
But as I turn the dress
inside out,

723
01:10:42.448 --> 01:10:46.965
there's an inner lining to it,
where I found a series
of three spots.

724
01:10:49.068 --> 01:10:50.344
What's that from?

725
01:10:51.379 --> 01:10:53.896
The location of the stains
is important

726
01:10:53.931 --> 01:10:55.551
because some might say

727
01:10:55.586 --> 01:11:00.206
that it's, you know, residue
from female menstruation,
for example.

728
01:11:00.241 --> 01:11:03.275
But this area was higher up.

729
01:11:03.310 --> 01:11:07.827
It's higher in the abdomen
and pretty much
where I would expect

730
01:11:07.862 --> 01:11:11.517
if the story is true
that a needle was inserted.

731
01:11:11.551 --> 01:11:14.758
You've got different bodily
fluids that would have
leaked out.

732
01:11:14.793 --> 01:11:20.689
But from the inside,
staining the lining
of the dress on the inside

733
01:11:20.724 --> 01:11:23.137
and not going through
to the outside.

734
01:11:28.448 --> 01:11:32.344
We've confirmed that this
fluid does belong to Betty,

735
01:11:32.379 --> 01:11:35.551
and that she put this dress
away and never wore it again.

736
01:11:35.586 --> 01:11:41.137
To me, this is consistent with
the procedure of having put
the clothing back on

737
01:11:41.172 --> 01:11:46.310
or wearing it through
the procedure and indicating
it happened as she said.

738
01:11:49.793 --> 01:11:52.344
[Bryce] It seems pretty clear
what the aliens were doing

739
01:11:52.379 --> 01:11:57.586
based on the regression
tapes and the testimony
of Betty and Barney.

740
01:11:57.620 --> 01:12:00.310
They're taking a sperm sample
from Barney.

741
01:12:00.344 --> 01:12:03.551
They're testing Betty
to see if she's pregnant.

742
01:12:03.586 --> 01:12:08.034
Obviously, there's
a reproductive issue
that's being looked into.

743
01:12:08.068 --> 01:12:10.689
But they're also scraping
skin samples.

744
01:12:10.724 --> 01:12:12.965
It's clearly a medical exam.

745
01:12:23.206 --> 01:12:26.551
It seems like they want to
know more about our biology.

746
01:12:26.586 --> 01:12:29.241
Why else would they be
conducting medical
experiments?

747
01:12:35.206 --> 01:12:37.689
It seems like they don't
have all the answers.

748
01:12:37.724 --> 01:12:39.344
So, do they keep coming back?

749
01:12:39.379 --> 01:12:41.000
Have they gotten
what they want?

750
01:12:41.034 --> 01:12:42.586
Do they know everything
they need to know?

751
01:12:42.620 --> 01:12:44.310
Or is there a further motive?

752
01:12:48.551 --> 01:12:50.275
[narrator] In the 1970s,

753
01:12:50.310 --> 01:12:55.379
the controversy surrounding
the Hill abduction explodes
in the media once more.

754
01:12:55.413 --> 01:13:00.344
This time,
when a schoolteacher in Ohio
claims the Hill story is real

755
01:13:00.379 --> 01:13:04.137
and she knows
where the aliens came from.

756
01:13:14.448 --> 01:13:17.862
[narrator] One unanswered
question has always been,

757
01:13:17.896 --> 01:13:20.344
where did these entities
come from?

758
01:13:21.482 --> 01:13:24.068
[Bryce] During her dreams
and during hypnosis,

759
01:13:24.103 --> 01:13:27.275
Betty Hill described
seeing a star map

760
01:13:27.310 --> 01:13:30.413
that one of the alien
creatures had showed her
a map,

761
01:13:30.448 --> 01:13:34.517
a destination map of the
routes that had been traveled.

762
01:13:35.965 --> 01:13:39.896
She said to the Leader,
"I know you're not from
around here.

763
01:13:39.931 --> 01:13:42.241
Where's your home port?"

764
01:13:42.275 --> 01:13:47.724
And he produced this
three-dimensional star map.

765
01:15:01.206 --> 01:15:03.862
[narrator] Under instructions
from Dr. Simon,

766
01:15:03.896 --> 01:15:06.551
Betty later reproduced the map
from memory.

767
01:15:08.137 --> 01:15:15.103
Then in 1974, the school
teacher in Ohio claims to have
deciphered the map

768
01:15:15.137 --> 01:15:19.379
and located the star system
where the entities originated.

769
01:15:19.413 --> 01:15:23.482
Marjorie Fish was a brilliant
woman from Ohio.

770
01:15:23.517 --> 01:15:27.517
She had studied biology
in college.

771
01:15:27.551 --> 01:15:31.344
And she was an amateur
astronomer, a member of Mensa.

772
01:15:31.379 --> 01:15:33.586
Meaning that she had
a very high IQ.

773
01:15:33.620 --> 01:15:37.103
She saw Betty's star map
in the first book

774
01:15:37.137 --> 01:15:40.896
that was written
about the abduction.

775
01:15:40.931 --> 01:15:45.172
And she was interested in it.
She was skeptical.

776
01:15:45.206 --> 01:15:50.448
But she thought that
if this place really did exist
in our galaxy,

777
01:15:50.482 --> 01:15:52.206
that she'd be able to find it.

778
01:15:55.862 --> 01:16:00.655
[narrator] In order
to understand the perspective
from which the map was drawn,

779
01:16:00.689 --> 01:16:06.655
Fish constructed an elaborate
3D model using fishing line
and colored beads.

780
01:16:08.793 --> 01:16:12.862
[Marjorie] I set up
a number of criteria
when I started the search.

781
01:16:12.896 --> 01:16:15.551
One was that the sun
had to be in the pattern

782
01:16:15.586 --> 01:16:18.000
and it had be one of the stars
with a line to it.

783
01:16:18.034 --> 01:16:21.931
Because the one Betty called
the Leader had said,

784
01:16:21.965 --> 01:16:27.034
"Where are you in the map
and indicating that the sun
was in the map?"

785
01:16:27.068 --> 01:16:29.206
[Kathleen] And this
was difficult in those days.

786
01:16:29.241 --> 01:16:30.724
She didn't have a computer.

787
01:16:30.758 --> 01:16:34.620
She had to hand copy
all of the distance data

788
01:16:34.655 --> 01:16:39.517
that was available
on the stars in our local
galactic neighborhood.

789
01:16:39.551 --> 01:16:42.344
And the properties
of those stars

790
01:16:42.379 --> 01:16:46.862
out 54 light years from
our sun in every direction.

791
01:16:49.379 --> 01:16:52.965
In all,
she constructed 14 models.

792
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.655
She still didn't have a match.

793
01:16:55.689 --> 01:17:00.241
But there was a new catalog
that was released.

794
01:17:00.275 --> 01:17:02.862
She took the new distance
data back.

795
01:17:02.896 --> 01:17:06.482
She constructed a model.
She found a match.

796
01:17:08.862 --> 01:17:14.000
[Marjorie] I had all 12 points
plus three background stars.

797
01:17:14.034 --> 01:17:17.758
And at this point, I was very
elated and very happy.

798
01:17:17.793 --> 01:17:19.172
I didn't sleep at all
that night.

799
01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:24.034
[narrator]
According to her evidence,

800
01:17:24.068 --> 01:17:29.172
the beings that abducted the
Hills came from Zeta Reticuli,

801
01:17:29.206 --> 01:17:33.689
a binary star system located
39 light years from Earth.

802
01:17:36.241 --> 01:17:39.862
What we know about these stars
is that they're very similar
to our sun.

803
01:17:39.896 --> 01:17:41.896
They're called main
sequence stars.

804
01:17:41.931 --> 01:17:45.206
And so, they're the right age,
the right temperature.

805
01:17:45.241 --> 01:17:48.793
If there are planets revolving
around them,

806
01:17:48.827 --> 01:17:53.862
they could be at the perfect
what we call goldilocks,
you know, distance,

807
01:17:53.896 --> 01:17:55.482
where they could support life.

808
01:17:57.931 --> 01:18:01.482
[Kathleen]
We may never know for certain

809
01:18:01.517 --> 01:18:07.689
if there is indeed life on
planets around Zeta Reticuli
one and two.

810
01:18:07.724 --> 01:18:13.034
But there is a good
possibility that there is.

811
01:18:13.068 --> 01:18:19.620
We have discovered that
that area of space

812
01:18:19.655 --> 01:18:23.689
that these extraterrestrials
allegedly came from

813
01:18:23.724 --> 01:18:26.965
is rich in exoplanets.

814
01:18:30.241 --> 01:18:32.620
[Betty] For a long, long time,
I had the feeling

815
01:18:32.655 --> 01:18:36.344
that I had sort of lived
through a tragedy in some way.

816
01:18:36.379 --> 01:18:39.241
And sometimes, even now,
I still have this feeling.

817
01:18:39.275 --> 01:18:41.448
Because it's something
that's haunting.

818
01:18:42.655 --> 01:18:46.068
It's something
that's always on my mind.

819
01:18:46.103 --> 01:18:48.793
No matter where I go
or what I do.

820
01:18:48.827 --> 01:18:51.896
It's the last thing I think
of when I go to bed at night.

821
01:18:51.931 --> 01:18:56.655
And it's the first thing
I think of in the morning
when I wake up.

822
01:18:56.689 --> 01:19:01.310
And I expect
it'll probably be that way
for the rest of my life.

823
01:19:14.586 --> 01:19:18.068
Of course after this happened,
there's no doubt in my mind

824
01:19:18.103 --> 01:19:22.655
that these are real solid
crafts and they're astronauts
from another solar system

825
01:19:22.689 --> 01:19:24.379
because they told me
so themselves.

826
01:19:25.827 --> 01:19:29.275
[narrator] Today, six decades
after their UFO encounter...

827
01:19:30.620 --> 01:19:34.310
Betty Hill and her husband,
Barney are no longer with us.

828
01:19:39.172 --> 01:19:42.379
They are buried together
beside Betty's sister, Janet

829
01:19:42.413 --> 01:19:46.206
in a small picturesque
cemetery in Kingston,
New Hampshire.

830
01:19:49.793 --> 01:19:53.827
[Jim] These were
two people, long ago,
who lived in Portsmouth...

831
01:19:56.275 --> 01:19:58.862
who have now passed on.

832
01:19:58.896 --> 01:20:03.000
But they've left us
with a message of something
they experienced.

833
01:20:06.896 --> 01:20:11.517
There are aliens out there
who may be visiting us,

834
01:20:11.551 --> 01:20:15.551
might not be harmful,
might want to know about us,

835
01:20:15.586 --> 01:20:17.724
might want to examine us...

836
01:20:19.206 --> 01:20:23.241
and may just want to be
inquisitive about
what we're about.

837
01:20:23.275 --> 01:20:25.724
And maybe someday,
who knows when.

838
01:20:25.758 --> 01:20:28.413
But maybe someday,
they're going to say
hello.

839
01:21:00.103 --> 01:21:02.931
[Betty] The good question is,
why are they coming here?

840
01:21:02.965 --> 01:21:05.793
I don't think the government
knows any more than we do.

841
01:21:05.827 --> 01:21:07.620
They're just as puzzled
as we are.

842
01:21:09.310 --> 01:21:10.896
I mean, we know they're here.

843
01:21:10.931 --> 01:21:13.413
We know there are beings
on board.

844
01:21:13.448 --> 01:21:14.931
We don't know
why they're here.

845
01:21:16.172 --> 01:21:20.827
[conversation over PA]

846
01:21:23.310 --> 01:21:26.172
[narrator] This question of
why recently resurfaced

847
01:21:26.206 --> 01:21:31.172
following the 2017 release of
the so-called Tic-tac video.

848
01:21:31.206 --> 01:21:33.620
These images
of a purported UFO

849
01:21:33.655 --> 01:21:36.034
were captured
by a navy fighter jet

850
01:21:36.068 --> 01:21:40.793
and radar on board
the nuclear-powered aircraft
carrier, USS Nimitz.

851
01:21:40.827 --> 01:21:44.482
[conversation over PA]

852
01:21:47.241 --> 01:21:51.448
Peace Air Force Base located
in Portsmouth, New Hampshire,
in 1961,

853
01:21:51.482 --> 01:21:54.448
was the home
of the Strategic Air Command.

854
01:21:54.482 --> 01:21:58.344
And that's where the bombers
with the nuclear bombs
were housed.

855
01:21:58.379 --> 01:22:01.586
A few years earlier, in 1947,

856
01:22:01.620 --> 01:22:05.758
the Strategic Air Command
bombers were held at Roswell.

857
01:22:08.517 --> 01:22:12.793
So UFOs, aliens,
nuclear weapons

858
01:22:12.827 --> 01:22:14.931
kind of have this thing where
they're brought together,

859
01:22:14.965 --> 01:22:17.034
which would make me say,

860
01:22:17.068 --> 01:22:21.862
it's one reason to believe
that the Betty and Barney case
might not be random,

861
01:22:21.896 --> 01:22:24.137
but might be something
that's related to that

862
01:22:24.172 --> 01:22:27.551
since they lived very close
to this nuclear bomber base.

863
01:22:29.758 --> 01:22:34.206
[narrator]
Six decades after risking
their reputations and careers,

864
01:22:34.241 --> 01:22:39.931
many, no longer view Betty
and Barney Hill as frauds,
but as heroes.

865
01:22:41.068 --> 01:22:43.275
After UFOs are generally
acknowledged,

866
01:22:43.310 --> 01:22:45.793
you can call that disclosure
or whatever you want
to call it.

867
01:22:45.827 --> 01:22:49.034
But when the world is finally
saying, yeah, these things
are real,

868
01:22:49.068 --> 01:22:51.896
then the history books are
going to have to be rewritten.

869
01:22:51.931 --> 01:22:55.206
Betty and Barney Hill,
they're going to be in
history books.

870
01:22:55.241 --> 01:22:59.965
[Ben] I always remind people,
when I hear the skepticism of,

871
01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.275
well, there's no physical
evidence,

872
01:23:02.310 --> 01:23:04.344
you could have
a murder conviction

873
01:23:04.379 --> 01:23:10.241
from one or two very credible
witnesses of seeing an event.

874
01:23:10.275 --> 01:23:15.034
Imagine the implications
of that or someone goes
to prison or is put to death.

875
01:23:15.068 --> 01:23:17.413
Yet, we ridicule somebody
who says

876
01:23:17.448 --> 01:23:21.620
that they had a very
fantastical story
of a UFO report.

877
01:23:21.655 --> 01:23:26.068
But, yet, this same
credibility exists
with these witnesses.

878
01:23:26.103 --> 01:23:27.551
I think we should
start listening.

879
01:23:34.310 --> 01:23:38.137
[Kathleen] I think
that if Betty
and Barney were alive today,

880
01:23:38.172 --> 01:23:42.241
they would be satisfied that
they had been vindicated.

881
01:23:42.275 --> 01:23:47.517
We know so much more
scientifically than we knew
in that time frame.

882
01:23:47.551 --> 01:23:53.620
And Betty's and Barney's
knowledge was consistent
with what we understand today.

883
01:24:00.172 --> 01:24:02.344
I'm Betty Hill,

884
01:24:02.379 --> 01:24:08.551
and my husband, Barney
and I were the first persons
on this planet

885
01:24:08.586 --> 01:24:12.413
to be abducted by astronauts
from another solar system.





