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[birds chirping]
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[ominous piano music]
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[static whirring]
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[beeping]
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[Alice]
I think the house is alive.
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There's a consciousness here.
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You just know
you're being watched.
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I started seeing
light formations,
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bizarre light formations.
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It scared me so bad
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that when I close my eyes,
I still see it.
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I can't stay here
at night by myself.
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[eerie piano instrumental]
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♪
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♪
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[music ends abruptly]
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[ominous instrumental]
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My name
is Alice Jackson.
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I've had this house--
I owned this house
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in Florence since 1990.
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In the last two years,
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there's been a lot of
interest in the house.
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For one thing, it just
makes it more comfortable a--
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around my neighborhood.
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I mean, now everybody
knows about the house
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and it's
very well accepted.
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People are very supportive.
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They'll tell you their
own stories about things.
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They understand
your experience
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and it's very positive.
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It resonates
with people because obviously
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it's a universal experience
to some degree.
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I mean, it's throughout--
you know, throughout history ,
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there's always been
ghost stories,
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always been
strange stories.
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People can relate
to the experience.
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I love my house.
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It feels peaceful
in the daytime.
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I like to come in
and read a book.
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I like to
have my friends over.
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But it's just
different at night.
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I mean,
it really is just different.
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[eerie instrumental]
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[clacks]
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[Steve] I think
a lot of people who
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think somebody deals
with a haunted house,
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especially nowadays,
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they think
it's kind of cool, you know?
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They're kind of like,
"It's awesome." You know?
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"Everybody wants
a haunted house."
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But when
you live in one,
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it's not quite that way,
you know?
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So, there must have been
a bit of a path of emotions
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that have happened
over the years.
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For-- for 20 years
we had things moving,
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ghost activity,
doors opening.
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And I accepted that.
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♪
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[thudding]
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♪
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[woman 1]
Okay, one more time.
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Loud enough
for everybody to hear.
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Can you please
whistle one more time?
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[eerie whistle]
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-[man 1] That's upstairs.
-[woman 2] Yup. You hear that?
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[man 2] It hasn't
happen again, though.
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-[man 1] Ask again, can you...
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[woman] Can you
whistle one more time?
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Loud.
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[eerie whistle]
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[indistinct speaking]
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[man 1] That's bullshit.
That's upstairs.
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-[woman 1] It's in that, um--
-[woman 2] It's only at...
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[woman 1]
It's in that room, um--
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It's in the crawlspace.
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Can you whistle
one more time for me?
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[silence]
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[woman 1]
Come on, [indistinct].
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One more time, loud.
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[eerie instrumental]
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[ball thudding]
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[people exclaim]
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[woman] Oh, my God!
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In the last, uh,
11 years, 12 years,
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uh, I started seeing
light formations,
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bizarre light formation.
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♪
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I remember that
one primary time that th--
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I just said,
"That's it."
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And that was, uh,
an area of, um,
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a cylinder of daylight
in a pitch black room,
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light that didn't diffuse,
that was it.
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I didn't know
if it was just a fluke
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that it happened
when I was in that room
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or if it happened
because I was in that room.
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So uh--
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And then also
I did at the same time
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have a strong feeling
that I was being observed.
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So, I didn't know if
there was a conscious presence
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observing that room
for some reason
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or if, uh,
I was the target.
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♪
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It happened because
I was in that room.
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-So, uh-- And then also I did--
-[disembodied voice]
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♪
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[John] Alice's house,
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I do feel like it's still
learning to communicate.
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I still feel like
we are teaching the spirits
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in a--
in a weird way.
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Do I think the house
is still learning?
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It-- it appears to be
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responding
to our requests.
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[John]
So, we have a baseball,
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I believe,
we have on the stairs--
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I'm gonna put
our sweet little doll
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here on the stairs.
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We put a doll in
a blue dress on the stairwell.
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We focus
solely on this object.
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[patting on the carpet]
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[Brad]
I see the doll for sure.
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-[John] That's fine. That's--
-[Brad] Yeah, we're good.
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That's mainly
what I want right there.
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Yeah. That's good.
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[John] All right,
so you have John, Alice,
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Brad in the house
investigating tonight.
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We would love some
kind of visual representation
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that you can
hear our voices
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and you can
communicate with us.
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And we continue
to ask over and over again
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that any
intelligent entity that's here,
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push that doll down.
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There's been objects
that have moved off the stairs.
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They've been pushed.
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Can you
do that again?
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Is that possible?
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Push that little doll.
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That little doll on the stairs,
just push it backwards for us.
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[John] So, we are
verbally asking you
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to focus your energy
on that blue doll.
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And eventually...
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Amazingly,
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the doll fell.
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[Alice] Every time I come,
I ask that doll to fall.
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-I do, too--
-I'd say that.
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And I was reinforcin' it
and I said,
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"John, we'd love
for you to have it fall
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even now or even [indistinct]."
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♪
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[thudding]
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♪
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Oh, my God. [indistinct].
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♪
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[Alice] Oh, wow.
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[ball thudding several times]
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The ball's come down
the steps several times still.
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And more recently,
it's actually seems like
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the ball
has gotten more aggressive
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when it
comes off the stairs,
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even to the fact where
it will actually pivot almost
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before it actually
just falls straight off.
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♪
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[ball bouncing]
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[ball bouncing]
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[ball bouncing]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[clattering]
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-Oh, shit!
-[indistinct]
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[Alice] Yeah, shit!
Oh, baby, oh, my God.
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Look at that--
Look at my arms.
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-[indistinct]
-So, which one?
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-So, it's 12:57--
-[overlapping chatter]
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Oh, look.
Let's come over here and look.
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Uh, the keyboards play
by itself on command.
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The organ, uh,
the piano playing on command,
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responding with deep burst.
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Uh, that-- that's been
something that's been new.
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So, if you wanna walk over here
and play that keyboard,
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or play that piano,
play it for us.
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Just give us some kind of
sign that you're here,
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you can hear our voice
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and, uh,
you want to communicate with us
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for a little bit of time.
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So, if you could light that up,
that'd be fantastic.
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Obviously, you know, you can
always turn the chandelier off
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to get our attention.
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Put a ball in this
little chair right here,
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by doll and you know--
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-[music playing]
-[Brad] Un-- Unbelievable.
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What the--
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Dude, tell me
what the odds are.
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-[distant instrumental noises]
-[background chatter]
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[man]
It's clearly Sabrina.
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[John] That was [indistinct].
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-[Brad] Oh, shit.
-[Alice] Holy shit. Yeah.
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[John]
My music box is playing
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-[woman] It is!
-[Alice] Oh.
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-[woman] Did you hear music?
-[man] Yes, certainly.
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It faded out.
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[Alice] But what is it?
[indistinct]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Brad] Yeah.
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[indistinct]
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Oh, look at this,
look at this, look at this!
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Did you hear that?
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Dude, that frickin' piano
just played by itself!
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[John] One of
the major differences
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with the chandelier
is not only
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does it turn off now,
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but we've actually captured
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the chandelier
turning on by itself.
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♪
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We've been asking the--
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the-- whatever's
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shutting that light off
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to turn back on.
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And that hasn't happened
ever until recently.
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All of a sudden
it starts happening.
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[Alice] Hey, what'll be?
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[indistinct]
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Be back tomorrow.
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So, if you
want to do something,
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we-- we'll still be
able to see it.
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If you want to
turn that light on,
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we'll be
able to see it.
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♪
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I think that when we put
our energy into it
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and we can express
the emotions that we have
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and how important it is,
there's something
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in this house
and these four walls
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in this land
that's reacting to us,
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and it wants to
help tell its story.
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[bird chirps]
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How does it make you feel
knowing that you have
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this beautiful house,
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um, but you literally
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have to
live somewhere else?
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Yeah, I remember thinking,
you know,
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before that I might
probably need to sell it
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because I'm doing
the upkeep and, you know,
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and, um...
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But I can't because I feel
emotionally attached to it.
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Actually, my daughter
died September of 2020.
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But I think
I've processed it pretty well
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because she was
very ill and I knew that,
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I knew that
she was dying.
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And, you know,
and we had time--
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We even
talked about it.
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We had time to express
ourselves and, you know,
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we had this-- she said,
"I'm-- I hope I die
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before you do because,"
she said,
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"I think you could handle it
better than I could."
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[low background chatter]
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You are
the best mom ever.
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[laughing]
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She had a lot of experiences,
and so did I,
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and I really kind of hate
that they're gone
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except just
in my own memory.
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♪
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Oh, look.
We really have this thing.
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-[Steve] Looks good!
-[man] All right.
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This is roll
A02 clip four,
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this is
Ashley Pevey's interview.
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-On marker.
-[click]
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I'm Ashley Pevey.
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I grew up in this house
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and my mom
is Alice Jackson.
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[Steve]
Do you believe in ghosts?
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Oh, yeah,
I do believe in ghosts.
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But I'm--
I'm real conflicted.
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I can't decide
if I am
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wanting
to embrace this,
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or wanting to totally
reject it 'cause it's scary.
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You know,
it is scary.
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All these things
are [laughs].
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They're just not normal.
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I'm not really scared
because I grew up here.
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I mean,
I'm not really scared.
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But if something happens,
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then I get scared.
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What's my mom's name?
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Oh!
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[man]
Oh, my God. [laughing]
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It's okay.
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When I had
John Joseph, my child,
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he was six months old
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and we were sleeping
in that bed by ourselves.
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This is
the weirdest thing.
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Then he started crying.
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And so I came in this kitchen
to get him some milk.
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And when I got to the kitchen
to get him some milk,
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I heard this ballroom music
in this living room.
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And it was like,
very loud
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and it was
just playin' and playin'.
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And my mother-in-law
had come here
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and she was upstairs.
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And I thought,
"When she wakes up,
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I'm goin' fuss at her
for having that ringtone
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that plays
all night long."
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But the whole time
I was down here getting milk,
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there was ballroom music.
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When I got up
in the morning,
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she'd not left
her phone down here.
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Her phone was upstairs.
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But I heard that music.
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I mean.
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I wish somebody
could find an answer
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but, um, I'm afraid of
what that answer might be.
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You know?
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Ashley's passing.
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We lost her quickly.
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And Alice
is so unique.
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She processes some things
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differently than
anybody that I know.
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I'm actually fine
because I think
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I've processed
all that ahead of time.
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But I still think
that life continues.
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And I really--
when I visualize her,
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my natural sense
is that, um,
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she's perfectly fine,
she's perfectly happy.
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[Brad] One of the reasons
why we decided
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to start
calling out Ashley's name
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is because she knows
what we do here
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as far as investigating.
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Ashley did grow up here.
She loved Alice.
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And, I mean, it makes sense.
She knows what we did.
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-She liked what we did.
-[Brad] And of course,
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we did this
with Alice's consent,
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which is very important.
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And the night
we did that,
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we did get some strange,
direct responses
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from the organ
over in the corner.
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[John]
We were respectful, obviously.
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And we said,
"Ashley, are you here?"
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You know,
"Can you give us a sign?"
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You know, "We would love
to communicate with you,
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talk to you, let you know
Alice misses you."
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And all of a sudden,
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the organ piano
started booming
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a deep bass hit.
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Ashley?
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This is John.
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-[deep thumping]
-[Brad gasps]
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-Oh my-- Oh my--
-[thumping continues]
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[woman]
Sounds like a heartbeat.
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[Brad] 'Cause every
time we say Ashley.
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Every time. [chuckling]
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Ashley, is--
is this you?
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[faint thumping]
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[Brad] This is an ab--
absolute direct responses,
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I mean,
it's unbelievable.
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It wasn't a keystroke.
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It was a thumping sound
coming from the organ.
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[thumping continues]
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00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,257
Thank you.
Keep doing that for us.
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That's a direct response.
Thank you.
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[deep thumping]
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[Alice]
Turn it off. Or like--
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[thumping continues]
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[Brad]
[indistinct] power off.
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[Olivia] Yeah.
Yeah. There's only...
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I'm just curious
because whenever
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we all go back there,
it stops.
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00:19:46,558 --> 00:19:48,789
[Brad] It's off.
My phone's down. Off.
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-[Olivia] Lights off--
-[Brad] Chandelier shut off.
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Later on we found out,
or I found out,
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that Ashley
is who gave Alice
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that piano, organ.
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We got
an organ in the house.
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And, uh,
we had heard, you know,
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my daughter
gave it to me
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00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:08,006
because she had heard of
a lady in town was selling it
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because
she said it was haunted.
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And she was trying to
sell it for $150.
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00:20:11,847 --> 00:20:13,352
Well,
nobody bought it.
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And so then she said
she'd sell it for $75.
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I told Ashley
I would take it, you know.
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And so, uh,
I went up there
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and got it
and it didn't do anything.
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But when John and Brad tried
to get the organ to play,
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they called her name
and that's when it played.
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[faint thumping]
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[Brad]
There was two right there.
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It did, "Dum-dum."
You-- 'Cause you went...
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[Brad]
Do I think it's Ashley?
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Again, it's speculation.
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But I think it's possible
because of the amount
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of direct responses
that I got.
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00:20:43,681 --> 00:20:45,978
It's not crazy to think
that this would be a place
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if Ashley was
to come and visit.
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Now, I'm not saying
that I necessarily
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think that was her.
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But I know that
she would do that if she could.
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♪
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00:21:09,971 --> 00:21:11,707
[indistinct chatter]
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00:21:14,074 --> 00:21:16,778
Obviously, we know that
the land is probably
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00:21:16,813 --> 00:21:19,484
the heartbeat
of the supernatural things
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00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:20,782
that are happening here.
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00:21:21,389 --> 00:21:22,685
[Brad]
Say hello, John Bullard.
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00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,752
What's happenin'?
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00:21:23,787 --> 00:21:25,490
[Brad]
John Bullard's in the house.
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00:21:25,525 --> 00:21:26,821
[John] Sabrina, all you need
is a beach and this.
407
00:21:27,692 --> 00:21:28,856
[Brad]
Amy Bullard's in the house.
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00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,530
Seeing the research tent
pop up is cool
409
00:21:32,565 --> 00:21:34,466
because it's nice
to have a base camp.
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00:21:36,404 --> 00:21:37,667
It makes it
easier for us
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00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:39,438
to help document things
in the house.
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00:21:39,473 --> 00:21:42,540
So to see this tent,
that's things we dream
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00:21:42,575 --> 00:21:44,135
of being able
to have access to
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00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:45,576
as paranormal investigators.
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00:21:45,611 --> 00:21:46,874
-[John] In here.
-[Brad] This is awesome.
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00:21:46,909 --> 00:21:48,348
[John] This is awesome.
417
00:21:49,483 --> 00:21:50,977
One of
the most exciting things
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00:21:51,012 --> 00:21:52,649
is the
ground-penetrating radar.
419
00:21:52,684 --> 00:21:54,387
Alice has been wanting
to do that for forever.
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00:21:54,422 --> 00:21:56,719
[Benton] I'm Benton Smith
with Century Mapping.
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00:21:56,754 --> 00:21:59,722
We combine ground-penetrating
radar with GPS.
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00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:02,725
We map
underground infrastructure
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00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,860
from cemeteries
to municipalities,
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00:22:05,895 --> 00:22:07,433
anything that's underground.
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00:22:07,468 --> 00:22:08,698
If there was
a burial, like,
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00:22:08,733 --> 00:22:10,766
let's say a body
was buried in a shroud.
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00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:14,473
Um, body decomposes
really quickly...
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00:22:15,509 --> 00:22:18,543
leaving basically
a pocket of air.
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00:22:21,647 --> 00:22:23,647
Yeah, so. All right.
So you see this?
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00:22:24,012 --> 00:22:26,914
This could be just
a change in the type of soil.
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00:22:26,949 --> 00:22:28,520
I mean,
it could be from--
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00:22:29,116 --> 00:22:30,885
obviously we have
a lot of clay here.
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00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,953
But in your estimation,
it would probably
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00:22:32,988 --> 00:22:35,153
just be soil related
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00:22:35,188 --> 00:22:37,023
and not like
a man-made structure
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00:22:37,058 --> 00:22:38,629
or burial,
that sort of thing?
437
00:22:38,664 --> 00:22:40,191
-Not a burial.
-Okay.
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00:22:40,226 --> 00:22:42,028
Not a burial,
but I mean, could it be
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00:22:42,063 --> 00:22:43,502
something that
was man-made, yeah.
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00:22:43,537 --> 00:22:47,099
[ominous instrumental]
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00:22:47,134 --> 00:22:50,806
[machinery rattling]
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00:23:05,922 --> 00:23:10,958
♪
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00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,971
So these are--
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These are potential burials.
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00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,482
It's not
a lot to see.
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00:23:29,517 --> 00:23:31,176
But you can see here
447
00:23:31,211 --> 00:23:33,112
there's a beginning
and an end.
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00:23:33,147 --> 00:23:34,817
-Yes.
-[Benton] This is about
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00:23:34,852 --> 00:23:36,016
four to five feet.
450
00:23:36,557 --> 00:23:39,921
And so everywhere
that I have a red flag,
451
00:23:39,956 --> 00:23:41,054
it's very similar.
452
00:23:41,089 --> 00:23:42,594
There's something there.
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00:23:43,597 --> 00:23:45,729
Is that typically
what you would see
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00:23:45,764 --> 00:23:47,632
if you were doing
that sort of work--
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00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:49,832
[Benton] Yeah, in a--
For an unmarked grave? Yeah.
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00:23:49,867 --> 00:23:52,505
-Okay.
-There's certainly...
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00:23:54,003 --> 00:23:55,871
I mean,
so far I've found
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10 areas that...
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00:24:00,174 --> 00:24:03,241
some of them
could be unmarked graves.
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00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:04,715
-Wow.
-Yeah.
461
00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:06,112
-Oh, my gosh.
-[Benton] Could be.
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00:24:06,147 --> 00:24:07,718
Ten, huh? Whoo.
463
00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:12,888
[pensive instrumental]
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00:24:17,290 --> 00:24:18,861
-[Steve] Alice? Hey.
-[Alice] Hey.
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Alice, this is Carolyn.
Uh, Carolyn. Uh, Alice.
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00:24:21,998 --> 00:24:23,998
-How are you?
-[Alice] Nice to meet you.
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00:24:24,033 --> 00:24:27,606
So I brought in a geophysicist
named Carolyn
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00:24:27,641 --> 00:24:30,070
with background
in astrophysics to really
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00:24:30,105 --> 00:24:33,843
look into what could be
creating that light phenomena.
470
00:24:33,878 --> 00:24:36,274
Because a lot of things
can be explained
471
00:24:36,309 --> 00:24:38,848
by what's happening
environmentally
472
00:24:38,883 --> 00:24:41,048
and not something paranormal.
473
00:24:41,083 --> 00:24:44,315
I'm delighted to have
somebody to tell that story to
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00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:46,119
who would
understand possibly.
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00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:48,253
My name
is Carolyn Streiff
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00:24:48,288 --> 00:24:51,091
and I am
a geophysicist
477
00:24:51,126 --> 00:24:53,698
that specializes
in near-surface
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00:24:53,733 --> 00:24:56,767
geophysics acquisition
and analysis.
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00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:01,299
The ERI
is a very useful tool
480
00:25:01,334 --> 00:25:03,939
because
we already have known
481
00:25:03,974 --> 00:25:05,611
value ranges
482
00:25:05,646 --> 00:25:08,614
for different
sediment and rock units.
483
00:25:08,649 --> 00:25:11,815
I could give some
information now for Alice
484
00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:14,983
to hopefully be able
to start coming to some sort of
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00:25:15,018 --> 00:25:17,656
resolution
of what is happening here.
486
00:25:18,054 --> 00:25:19,790
[Steve] She gave us
a lot of theories
487
00:25:19,825 --> 00:25:22,122
as to what
could be creating the phenomena
488
00:25:22,157 --> 00:25:23,255
Alice is experiencing.
489
00:25:23,290 --> 00:25:25,224
It has to do
with earthquakes
490
00:25:25,259 --> 00:25:27,292
and maybe even volcanoes
491
00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:29,602
and fault lines
and blue shale
492
00:25:29,637 --> 00:25:31,934
that's underneath
the ground here.
493
00:25:31,969 --> 00:25:34,673
There are
different types of rocks
494
00:25:34,708 --> 00:25:36,807
that when
you heat them or cool them,
495
00:25:36,842 --> 00:25:38,677
they will
have a voltage.
496
00:25:38,712 --> 00:25:41,746
If you compress them,
if you get a charge on to them.
497
00:25:41,781 --> 00:25:45,178
Also, when you do different
mechanical processes,
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00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:46,850
they will illuminate.
499
00:25:47,215 --> 00:25:48,687
There is
500
00:25:48,722 --> 00:25:51,382
an actual
scientific effect
501
00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:54,352
that creates light
from rubbing quartz.
502
00:25:54,387 --> 00:25:55,991
And because we know
503
00:25:56,026 --> 00:25:58,862
that Alice has sand
and shale underneath her home,
504
00:25:58,897 --> 00:26:01,062
there is quartz
in sand and shale.
505
00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:03,933
So, could
something be causing
506
00:26:03,968 --> 00:26:07,607
some of these light effects
that Alice is seeing?
507
00:26:08,038 --> 00:26:11,105
What if something
is affecting Alice's house
508
00:26:11,140 --> 00:26:14,339
momentarily because of
charges in the ground
509
00:26:14,374 --> 00:26:15,879
that could be occurring?
510
00:26:17,982 --> 00:26:20,345
Having a geophysicist
come do research here
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00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:22,017
on the land is--
is huge.
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00:26:22,756 --> 00:26:24,283
[Brad] I think it's very
exciting anytime you have
513
00:26:24,318 --> 00:26:28,419
a person of science background
that's willing to reach out
514
00:26:28,454 --> 00:26:30,388
to the paranormal
side of things.
515
00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:31,895
You don't see that.
516
00:26:32,227 --> 00:26:33,864
I--
At least I haven't.
517
00:26:33,899 --> 00:26:35,932
I haven't seen much of that
at all in this field.
518
00:26:35,967 --> 00:26:40,673
♪
519
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:42,807
-Hey, Carolyn.
-Hey.
520
00:26:42,842 --> 00:26:46,206
You said you had
some information to share.
521
00:26:46,714 --> 00:26:48,747
This line we did
522
00:26:48,782 --> 00:26:52,146
that passed by the tree
that the dog hit at.
523
00:26:52,181 --> 00:26:54,082
So, there's something else
in the ground there.
524
00:26:54,117 --> 00:26:55,787
That is not soil,
that is something.
525
00:26:55,822 --> 00:26:56,986
And it's not
a tree root.
526
00:26:57,021 --> 00:26:58,790
It's too big
to be a tree root.
527
00:26:58,825 --> 00:27:01,353
So, what you're saying
basically is the electricity
528
00:27:01,388 --> 00:27:02,761
goes through the soil.
529
00:27:02,796 --> 00:27:04,290
-[Carolyn] Mm-hmm.
-[Steve] And here
530
00:27:04,325 --> 00:27:06,292
it is not conducting
531
00:27:06,327 --> 00:27:08,294
because
there is a void there.
532
00:27:08,901 --> 00:27:11,869
Yeah, it's having a hard--
it's having a harder time
533
00:27:11,904 --> 00:27:13,772
going through the soil.
534
00:27:13,807 --> 00:27:16,269
-[Steve] Wow.
-I'll tell you something.
535
00:27:16,304 --> 00:27:19,943
This is
extremely similar
536
00:27:19,978 --> 00:27:23,947
to when I did
an old section of a cemetery
537
00:27:23,982 --> 00:27:26,477
and the body
was no longer decomposing
538
00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:28,446
so there was no longer
any signature of the body.
539
00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:31,889
But the fill
that was above the body
540
00:27:31,924 --> 00:27:34,760
was still
resistive enough to be shown,
541
00:27:34,795 --> 00:27:36,762
which is what
we're exactly seeing here.
542
00:27:36,797 --> 00:27:39,765
And there's
now fresh soil on top.
543
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,833
So, that's
a loose sort of fill,
544
00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,737
as if somebody
had a shovel or something.
545
00:27:44,772 --> 00:27:46,134
[Carolyn]
It would be.
546
00:27:46,169 --> 00:27:48,466
It would be, yeah,
where somebody dug something
547
00:27:48,501 --> 00:27:49,874
and then filled
the hole back up.
548
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:51,744
There's something
going on there.
549
00:27:51,779 --> 00:27:52,943
This is great.
550
00:27:52,978 --> 00:27:54,373
Thank you
for all this hard work.
551
00:27:55,013 --> 00:27:57,211
I think we may
have to dig there
552
00:27:57,246 --> 00:27:58,751
and just see what--
553
00:27:58,786 --> 00:28:00,148
what is there.
554
00:28:00,183 --> 00:28:02,887
[wind whooshing]
555
00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:08,321
[night din]
556
00:28:13,262 --> 00:28:15,933
[owl hooting]
557
00:28:17,398 --> 00:28:19,805
[indistinct chatter]
558
00:28:20,808 --> 00:28:22,269
[Benton]
Somebody what?
559
00:28:22,304 --> 00:28:27,340
♪
560
00:28:30,246 --> 00:28:31,377
[door slamming]
561
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,545
Copy that. Copy that.
Can you get your camera up?
562
00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:36,151
-Yeah.
-[Benton] Thank you.
563
00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:41,387
Can you po--
Can you start rolling?
564
00:28:41,422 --> 00:28:43,521
-[man] Yeah.
-[Benton] Hey, Steve?
565
00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:48,559
♪
566
00:28:48,594 --> 00:28:50,935
[Benton]
Yeah, we're comin' out front.
567
00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:56,006
♪
568
00:28:56,877 --> 00:28:59,779
[night din]
569
00:29:01,310 --> 00:29:03,244
Well-- wha-- what happened?
Why-- why are you--
570
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:04,344
Okay.
571
00:29:05,281 --> 00:29:06,819
So.
572
00:29:07,921 --> 00:29:10,922
I was like, kind of looking
over here the entire time.
573
00:29:11,452 --> 00:29:13,551
All of a sudden,
574
00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:16,257
out of--
out of nowhere, I just saw
575
00:29:16,292 --> 00:29:17,489
somebody.
576
00:29:17,524 --> 00:29:19,029
So if I'm
standing over here.
577
00:29:19,064 --> 00:29:21,933
I'll show you exactly
where the person walked.
578
00:29:23,629 --> 00:29:25,431
But they were definitely
not heading into the tent.
579
00:29:25,466 --> 00:29:29,842
So, I expected to see somebody
walk out the other side.
580
00:29:30,438 --> 00:29:32,273
And there
is nobody over here.
581
00:29:32,308 --> 00:29:35,573
There's nobody here,
nobody turned around.
582
00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:37,245
-Okay.
-So, you were--
583
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,984
I'm just having a--
This is just too wild.
584
00:29:40,019 --> 00:29:41,282
Sorry. Yes. Okay.
585
00:29:41,317 --> 00:29:44,120
[Steve]
So, during your, just research
586
00:29:44,155 --> 00:29:46,221
on your lines,
587
00:29:46,256 --> 00:29:49,191
you thought you saw
somebody walking over here?
588
00:29:49,226 --> 00:29:50,995
And you came over
and there's nobody here?
589
00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:53,294
And I just
happened to see
590
00:29:53,329 --> 00:29:55,329
as I'm facing towards
591
00:29:55,364 --> 00:29:57,936
this area of the yard,
592
00:29:57,971 --> 00:30:00,301
I saw somebody walking,
593
00:30:00,336 --> 00:30:03,634
uh, toward-- I saw somebody
walking towards the tent.
594
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:06,637
I mean, I don't want to
put any more sort of--
595
00:30:06,672 --> 00:30:09,541
not fear,
but I guess maybe anxiety
596
00:30:09,576 --> 00:30:12,016
into the situation
for you.
597
00:30:12,051 --> 00:30:14,887
But there are many,
many reports
598
00:30:14,922 --> 00:30:18,484
of an apparition
being seen back here.
599
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,090
Uh,
the neighbor has claimed
600
00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:21,861
to see
an apparition back here.
601
00:30:22,292 --> 00:30:25,227
We did have a psychic named,
uh, Jill come here
602
00:30:25,262 --> 00:30:29,099
and she drew
the image of a gentleman
603
00:30:29,134 --> 00:30:32,003
that she saw
in the backyard here.
604
00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:36,238
Uh, so,
the gentleman I saw,
605
00:30:36,273 --> 00:30:38,504
without like-- I--
the thing that drew me
606
00:30:38,539 --> 00:30:41,342
to seeing this person walking
for just a brief second
607
00:30:41,377 --> 00:30:44,642
was the fact that
he was wearing white.
608
00:30:44,677 --> 00:30:46,248
-But--
-[Steve] Carolyn came here
609
00:30:46,283 --> 00:30:48,954
as a total nonbeliever
of the paranormal
610
00:30:48,989 --> 00:30:51,990
and had an experience
that changed her mind.
611
00:30:52,025 --> 00:30:54,124
And she's honestly
a little bit concerned
612
00:30:54,159 --> 00:30:55,961
that the science community
613
00:30:55,996 --> 00:30:58,128
is going to
look down on her.
614
00:30:58,163 --> 00:30:59,690
They're going to
raise their eyebrow.
615
00:30:59,725 --> 00:31:01,395
But, you know,
that's scary for me
616
00:31:01,430 --> 00:31:04,937
because I wanted to
completely explain
617
00:31:04,972 --> 00:31:07,203
a lot of the phenomena
so I could tell Alice, like,
618
00:31:07,238 --> 00:31:09,700
what you're experiencing
is actually A, B, C and D.
619
00:31:09,735 --> 00:31:12,670
But the geophysicist
had an experience.
620
00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:16,080
Uh, we've had
another person, Erin,
621
00:31:16,115 --> 00:31:19,215
who lived next door,
grew up next door,
622
00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:21,349
who said she saw
a full body apparition
623
00:31:21,384 --> 00:31:24,022
not only in the same location
as the geophysicist
624
00:31:24,057 --> 00:31:28,026
but also the description
was pretty close.
625
00:31:28,061 --> 00:31:30,259
A male
in a white shirt.
626
00:31:30,294 --> 00:31:35,099
♪
627
00:31:35,134 --> 00:31:37,101
[Erin] The man
I saw at the door,
628
00:31:37,136 --> 00:31:39,070
he seemed
to be about my height.
629
00:31:39,105 --> 00:31:42,337
Very young.
Early twenties. Late teens.
630
00:31:42,768 --> 00:31:45,274
He was wearing a white shirt
and he had dark hair
631
00:31:45,309 --> 00:31:48,013
and it was slicked back
and real strong eyes.
632
00:31:49,148 --> 00:31:53,018
I didn't feel like a presence
or anything when I was here,
633
00:31:53,053 --> 00:31:56,219
cutting grass, it was
completely sprung up on me.
634
00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:00,718
And he looked
so real.
635
00:32:00,753 --> 00:32:02,390
He was looking
this direction.
636
00:32:02,425 --> 00:32:05,096
And I came around the corner
and he turned his head
637
00:32:05,131 --> 00:32:07,494
and looked right at me,
and I looked at him.
638
00:32:08,101 --> 00:32:11,630
And his--
his eyes were so intense.
639
00:32:11,665 --> 00:32:14,534
It wasn't anything li--
the ghostly,
640
00:32:14,569 --> 00:32:18,505
fuzzy, foggy look that you
think you see in movies and TV.
641
00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:22,113
He was completely solid.
642
00:32:24,084 --> 00:32:25,545
[John] Erin told us
the story about
643
00:32:25,580 --> 00:32:28,152
seeing the full body apparition
on the back land.
644
00:32:28,517 --> 00:32:30,616
Yes, I remember that
because I was at work
645
00:32:30,651 --> 00:32:32,783
and she called me and I mean,
you could tell she was--
646
00:32:32,818 --> 00:32:35,225
she was
so nervous, excited.
647
00:32:35,260 --> 00:32:37,326
And she told me,
you know, such detail.
648
00:32:37,361 --> 00:32:38,723
I mean,
there's things that I think
649
00:32:38,758 --> 00:32:40,098
draw us
out there a lot, you know?
650
00:32:40,133 --> 00:32:42,034
Whether
it's the door opening
651
00:32:42,069 --> 00:32:43,497
or the EVP,
we got one time that said,
652
00:32:43,532 --> 00:32:45,235
"I'm in the woods."
653
00:32:48,273 --> 00:32:50,240
I think that
we really should focus a lot
654
00:32:50,275 --> 00:32:52,077
on the uh--
on the backyard.
655
00:32:52,112 --> 00:32:53,672
And I think that's the
heartbeat of what's going on.
656
00:32:53,707 --> 00:32:57,181
[wind whooshes]
657
00:33:07,424 --> 00:33:09,127
[knocking]
658
00:33:12,627 --> 00:33:14,132
-[Jill] Hello.
-[Alice] Jill.
659
00:33:14,167 --> 00:33:15,496
-It's good to see you.
-[Jill] Hey,
660
00:33:15,531 --> 00:33:16,695
good to see you too.
661
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:19,071
I'm excited that,
uh, Jill Morris,
662
00:33:19,106 --> 00:33:20,435
who came last time,
663
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:23,405
is coming back
because she did have a lot of
664
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,178
accurate statements
and intuitive things
665
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:29,312
that were borne out
by things that happened.
666
00:33:30,381 --> 00:33:34,119
There is a female
that I'm not familiar with
667
00:33:34,154 --> 00:33:36,187
that has been
coming here
668
00:33:36,222 --> 00:33:39,355
and she brings
with her a lot of music.
669
00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:42,292
Does that
mean anything to you?
670
00:33:42,327 --> 00:33:43,623
It does.
671
00:33:43,658 --> 00:33:46,857
And I kept
hearing music
672
00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:49,266
that almost
sounded like a music box.
673
00:33:49,301 --> 00:33:52,566
[chuckles]
That's exactly what we hear.
674
00:33:52,601 --> 00:33:53,831
[Jill]
She was standing--
675
00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:55,866
like I was here
and she was standing
676
00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:58,638
more towards the door,
so whatever this area
677
00:33:58,673 --> 00:34:00,409
where the table
is over there--
678
00:34:00,444 --> 00:34:02,312
And she was just
twirling around,
679
00:34:02,347 --> 00:34:04,446
pulling all of these
beautiful lights in
680
00:34:04,481 --> 00:34:07,185
with this beautiful music
playing in the background.
681
00:34:07,583 --> 00:34:10,254
What I did
is the name Rich came up,
682
00:34:10,289 --> 00:34:12,784
then Richardson, and I'm like,
"What does this mean?"
683
00:34:12,819 --> 00:34:16,392
There is a waltz that goes back
to the state of South Carolina.
684
00:34:16,856 --> 00:34:18,460
Does--
do you have any community--
685
00:34:18,495 --> 00:34:20,231
Anything to do
with South Carolina?
686
00:34:20,497 --> 00:34:22,365
Yes,
that's where they're from.
687
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,467
We have a genealogy book
that traces the family back--
688
00:34:25,502 --> 00:34:28,107
[Jill]
This, for crying out loud.
689
00:34:30,309 --> 00:34:33,640
Then we have
this spirit.
690
00:34:34,742 --> 00:34:37,281
And I call him
the Reverend.
691
00:34:37,316 --> 00:34:40,185
I wouldn't say
he was evil by any means.
692
00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:41,912
He's just
a dark person.
693
00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:45,850
He just seemed to be
when he was alive,
694
00:34:45,885 --> 00:34:47,621
which carries over...
695
00:34:49,493 --> 00:34:50,558
angry.
696
00:34:52,265 --> 00:34:55,266
They were-- this area,
this land may have been his
697
00:34:55,301 --> 00:34:58,632
or he had something to do
with this land at one time.
698
00:34:58,667 --> 00:34:59,897
I'm just
going to say it.
699
00:34:59,932 --> 00:35:01,503
It's almost like,
don't find out about me.
700
00:35:01,538 --> 00:35:03,802
Like, it's because
it's an exposure.
701
00:35:04,343 --> 00:35:06,178
He was not a nice person
and I do think
702
00:35:06,213 --> 00:35:09,742
he had a hand in
what happened in the backyard.
703
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:11,843
Okay.
704
00:35:11,878 --> 00:35:14,186
[birds chirping]
705
00:35:17,422 --> 00:35:20,423
So, this
is the general area.
706
00:35:21,690 --> 00:35:23,162
Just going to be honest.
707
00:35:24,264 --> 00:35:26,561
He was taken here.
I think he was hung here.
708
00:35:28,433 --> 00:35:30,730
There was
a debt to be paid
709
00:35:30,765 --> 00:35:33,799
and he--
he was killed.
710
00:35:33,834 --> 00:35:35,702
It's not that
he stole something.
711
00:35:36,309 --> 00:35:39,673
And that's kind of
what his message is right now
712
00:35:39,708 --> 00:35:41,510
speaking with you,
713
00:35:41,545 --> 00:35:44,414
is to know he's not
going to disrespect you.
714
00:35:44,449 --> 00:35:47,615
It's-- he wants people to
understand he was a good man.
715
00:35:48,585 --> 00:35:50,486
But I think the reason
he is really strong here
716
00:35:50,521 --> 00:35:52,983
is because
this is where he passed.
717
00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:54,457
That's my opinion.
718
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:57,592
But he tends
to hang out here.
719
00:35:58,727 --> 00:36:01,299
[Steve] You know,
I don't work with psychics,
720
00:36:01,334 --> 00:36:02,729
you know, that much.
721
00:36:02,764 --> 00:36:05,765
But my job here is
to service the investigation,
722
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,702
to service what Alice wants,
to facilitate that.
723
00:36:08,737 --> 00:36:11,705
So if the team
wants another psychic here,
724
00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:13,740
you know, we're going to
bring one in for them.
725
00:36:13,775 --> 00:36:15,577
And I thought
it was important to make sure
726
00:36:15,612 --> 00:36:17,645
that is a psychic
who has never been
727
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,218
to the house before.
728
00:36:19,748 --> 00:36:21,352
[knocking]
729
00:36:27,954 --> 00:36:29,360
-[Alice] Oh. Hello.
-[Sam] Hello.
730
00:36:29,395 --> 00:36:30,724
-How are you? I'm Alice.
-Hey, I'm Sam.
731
00:36:30,759 --> 00:36:32,528
-Nice to meet you.
-Hey, nice to meet you.
732
00:36:32,563 --> 00:36:33,628
Come in.
733
00:36:33,663 --> 00:36:37,863
♪
734
00:36:37,898 --> 00:36:40,404
So, here we are.
735
00:36:40,439 --> 00:36:41,933
Yeah,
so, I'll tell you, like, I--
736
00:36:41,968 --> 00:36:43,473
Like, as soon as
I came on the property,
737
00:36:43,508 --> 00:36:47,378
I definitely started
having anxiety issues.
738
00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:49,479
So when it comes
to my abilities
739
00:36:49,514 --> 00:36:52,383
as a clairvoyant and as
a light of trance medium,
740
00:36:52,418 --> 00:36:55,452
I've learned to kind of
separate my emotions
741
00:36:55,487 --> 00:36:56,915
from the emotions
of the spirits
742
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:58,455
that I'm communicating with.
743
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:00,853
So, I came in
with my guard up.
744
00:37:00,888 --> 00:37:03,592
I-- I did feel
not welcomed
745
00:37:03,627 --> 00:37:05,495
when I first walked up
to the property.
746
00:37:05,530 --> 00:37:07,431
So, I was feeling
sort of the--
747
00:37:07,466 --> 00:37:09,565
the energy, the chaos.
748
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,568
So, what I've been picking up
on for the past few days
749
00:37:12,603 --> 00:37:14,636
is there's
an older gentleman,
750
00:37:14,671 --> 00:37:17,474
uh,
who wants to communicate.
751
00:37:17,509 --> 00:37:20,873
And he definitely
is the type of person that,
752
00:37:20,908 --> 00:37:23,315
uh, very cranky.
753
00:37:23,350 --> 00:37:26,912
So when I was coming in,
he was like,
754
00:37:26,947 --> 00:37:28,881
basically telling me
to get out.
755
00:37:28,916 --> 00:37:30,355
[Sam] Uh, and-- like,
756
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:31,653
[Southern accent]
"This is my land.
757
00:37:31,688 --> 00:37:33,083
This is my land!"
758
00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:34,722
And, um,
759
00:37:34,757 --> 00:37:36,856
I think that we're going to
see on the property
760
00:37:36,891 --> 00:37:39,056
that there
is definitely, uh,
761
00:37:39,091 --> 00:37:41,663
signs that
he was on the property.
762
00:37:41,698 --> 00:37:44,435
This was not his house.
His house was out back.
763
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:47,537
Now he has stuff
in the back there--
764
00:37:47,572 --> 00:37:48,967
He has secrets
in the back.
765
00:37:49,541 --> 00:37:51,673
Um,
and I hope that we can
766
00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:53,576
maybe uncover
those secrets.
767
00:37:53,908 --> 00:37:55,710
But he's hiding something.
768
00:37:55,745 --> 00:37:56,909
Whoa.
769
00:37:59,716 --> 00:38:01,419
Well, I can see if--
if anybody
770
00:38:01,454 --> 00:38:03,080
has tried to stay
in this room,
771
00:38:03,115 --> 00:38:04,719
like, why they wouldn't
want to stay here.
772
00:38:04,754 --> 00:38:06,820
All right.
I'm going to go there.
773
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,559
Okay.
774
00:38:11,959 --> 00:38:13,728
Okay. [sighs]
775
00:38:16,799 --> 00:38:18,865
All right.
What do you want from Alice?
776
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:23,936
[tense music]
777
00:38:26,644 --> 00:38:28,776
All right,
I'm seeing, um--
778
00:38:32,815 --> 00:38:36,883
He wants you to dig.
Uh, dig out in the back.
779
00:38:37,655 --> 00:38:40,755
Okay, um, he's showing me
that he wants you to dig.
780
00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:42,988
Um, you-- there's something
hidden down there.
781
00:38:43,023 --> 00:38:44,088
I'm getting chills.
782
00:38:44,123 --> 00:38:45,463
My back and my neck
783
00:38:45,498 --> 00:38:47,696
is being touched right now.
784
00:38:48,061 --> 00:38:49,500
Um.
785
00:38:50,129 --> 00:38:52,536
Well, when I was connecting
with the spirit
786
00:38:52,571 --> 00:38:54,439
of the older man,
he kept saying,
787
00:38:54,474 --> 00:38:56,441
"Dig, dig, dig."
788
00:38:59,479 --> 00:39:01,809
All right, sir, so I want you
to tell me where to dig.
789
00:39:02,515 --> 00:39:03,844
Give me a sign.
790
00:39:07,784 --> 00:39:10,048
All right,
can you show me where--
791
00:39:10,083 --> 00:39:11,753
Uh,
where you want to dig?
792
00:39:11,788 --> 00:39:13,788
I guess give me
some animal indication
793
00:39:13,823 --> 00:39:15,526
or some sort.
794
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,661
All right.
So I'm going to keep walking.
795
00:39:18,696 --> 00:39:20,531
[Alice]
Okay, that's interesting.
796
00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:25,602
♪
797
00:39:27,936 --> 00:39:29,903
All right, so I'm gett--
I'm getting-- [chuckles]
798
00:39:29,938 --> 00:39:32,906
I'm getting a flashback
to someone getting,
799
00:39:32,941 --> 00:39:34,446
like,
an attack over here.
800
00:39:34,481 --> 00:39:35,909
So there was
some kind of--
801
00:39:35,944 --> 00:39:39,011
[birds chirping]
802
00:39:39,046 --> 00:39:44,082
♪
803
00:39:44,557 --> 00:39:46,150
All right,
so just so you-- I mean,
804
00:39:46,185 --> 00:39:47,558
I'm going--
I'm just going to go there.
805
00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:48,922
-[Alice] Yeah.
-Okay.
806
00:39:48,957 --> 00:39:52,761
Um, so there was
definitely tensions going on.
807
00:39:52,796 --> 00:39:54,631
Um,
I think that there was--
808
00:39:54,666 --> 00:39:58,129
there was an attack,
maybe even, uh, something
809
00:39:58,164 --> 00:39:59,801
like a lynching
of some sort
810
00:39:59,836 --> 00:40:01,638
that could have
happened back here too.
811
00:40:01,673 --> 00:40:03,673
[animals
screeching in distance]
812
00:40:03,708 --> 00:40:05,202
The animals
responding to me is--
813
00:40:05,237 --> 00:40:06,577
means that
that's the truth.
814
00:40:06,612 --> 00:40:09,712
[screeching continues]
815
00:40:16,886 --> 00:40:18,754
-[Jill] Jill.
-[Sam] Nice to meet you, Sam.
816
00:40:18,789 --> 00:40:20,591
[Jill]
It's nice to meet you, Sam.
817
00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:24,254
So, you've had
a chance to kind of
818
00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:26,091
get your own vibe,
what's going on?
819
00:40:26,126 --> 00:40:28,698
I feel like that the land
is stained with blood.
820
00:40:28,733 --> 00:40:30,095
There's something out there
821
00:40:30,130 --> 00:40:31,767
that we should
probably investigate.
822
00:40:32,198 --> 00:40:33,835
I am hearing
823
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:36,574
a really
super pitch high frequency.
824
00:40:36,609 --> 00:40:38,609
-Oh, me too. Yeah.
-[Jill] Okay.
825
00:40:38,644 --> 00:40:40,644
[Jill] So, have you
ever heard that before?
826
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,614
I know you said static and
I've heard that here before.
827
00:40:43,649 --> 00:40:45,110
Yeah, I heard--
when you said you heard it
828
00:40:45,145 --> 00:40:47,178
in that back room,
I did, too.
829
00:40:47,213 --> 00:40:48,784
[Jill]
You want to go check it out?
830
00:40:48,819 --> 00:40:50,280
-Yeah.
-[Jill] Be careful
831
00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:52,755
because
this is new for me.
832
00:40:53,758 --> 00:40:56,154
And see,
it picks up in here.
833
00:40:56,189 --> 00:40:57,254
[Sam] Yep.
834
00:40:57,289 --> 00:40:59,531
[Jill] Okay.
So, this is new.
835
00:41:01,161 --> 00:41:03,634
And I was trying to
get my bearings.
836
00:41:04,868 --> 00:41:06,604
It does seem
over the bed.
837
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:08,540
-Yeah, it's over here.
-[Jill] It's over the be--
838
00:41:08,575 --> 00:41:10,234
It's like super loud
over here.
839
00:41:10,269 --> 00:41:11,301
Over there. Yeah.
840
00:41:11,336 --> 00:41:12,610
I will say this thing
841
00:41:12,645 --> 00:41:14,007
wants to attach to one of us.
842
00:41:14,042 --> 00:41:15,580
There is a male
843
00:41:15,615 --> 00:41:16,878
and that's
what he is trying to do.
844
00:41:16,913 --> 00:41:19,551
And it's odd you say that
because I get it
845
00:41:19,586 --> 00:41:21,619
right outside the house,
846
00:41:21,654 --> 00:41:23,753
whereas
the last time I was here,
847
00:41:23,788 --> 00:41:26,624
he was in the house
and he was very unpleasant.
848
00:41:26,659 --> 00:41:28,318
[Sam] Right.
Was he the murderer?
849
00:41:28,353 --> 00:41:29,891
Do you think
that he's the one--
850
00:41:29,926 --> 00:41:31,728
[Jill] I think he had
something to do with it.
851
00:41:31,763 --> 00:41:34,060
And it's spending, what,
a couple hours out in the back.
852
00:41:35,294 --> 00:41:37,195
It really gave me
853
00:41:37,230 --> 00:41:39,703
a good chance
to pick up on--
854
00:41:39,738 --> 00:41:43,300
there is a spirit
of an enslaved person.
855
00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:44,873
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, you're right.
856
00:41:44,908 --> 00:41:46,644
That's what
I was picking up too.
857
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:47,909
[Jill] So it is something--
858
00:41:47,944 --> 00:41:49,174
[Steve]
You actually said lynching.
859
00:41:49,209 --> 00:41:50,714
-[Sam] Yeah.
-Yeah.
860
00:41:50,749 --> 00:41:52,342
And that's--
that's what I picked up on.
861
00:41:52,377 --> 00:41:54,113
And there's a--
I'll show you that.
862
00:41:54,148 --> 00:41:55,653
You got-- You did?
[gasps]
863
00:41:55,688 --> 00:41:57,182
Okay,
this is giving me chills.
864
00:41:57,217 --> 00:41:58,689
[Jill] Yeah.
865
00:41:59,791 --> 00:42:01,021
-Are you okay?
-Yeah.
866
00:42:03,058 --> 00:42:04,123
Yeah.
867
00:42:08,228 --> 00:42:09,634
[Jill]
Do you want to take a moment?
868
00:42:09,669 --> 00:42:11,834
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.
869
00:42:13,772 --> 00:42:15,904
I just--
I sort of trusted myself
870
00:42:15,939 --> 00:42:17,807
because I did see that,
but I was just like,
871
00:42:17,842 --> 00:42:20,073
I didn't
want to go there, you know?
872
00:42:20,108 --> 00:42:21,173
Because it's so horrific.
873
00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:22,207
Like, who would do that
874
00:42:22,242 --> 00:42:23,648
to somebody else, you know?
875
00:42:24,915 --> 00:42:28,950
Working with Jill
on this collaboration
876
00:42:28,985 --> 00:42:30,688
was awesome for me
877
00:42:30,723 --> 00:42:33,625
because I was able to
get a confirmation
878
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:34,989
for the things
that I was picking up.
879
00:42:35,794 --> 00:42:38,993
He-- he is--
his spirit is very grateful.
880
00:42:39,666 --> 00:42:41,094
So just know that.
881
00:42:41,129 --> 00:42:44,328
[Sam] And I--
I want him to know and I want--
882
00:42:44,363 --> 00:42:46,836
I want you
to know that
883
00:42:46,871 --> 00:42:49,839
his story
has been heard
884
00:42:49,874 --> 00:42:53,304
and he's no longer
a man without a voice.
885
00:42:53,339 --> 00:42:55,812
He now has a voice
and he can speak freely
886
00:42:55,847 --> 00:42:58,749
and hopefully
he can move on to Heaven.
887
00:43:01,754 --> 00:43:03,347
-This is good, Alice.
-[Jill] Yeah, yeah,
888
00:43:03,382 --> 00:43:06,658
it feels so whole...
wholesome.
889
00:43:08,123 --> 00:43:10,387
-Healing?
-[Sam] Healing, that's it.
890
00:43:10,422 --> 00:43:13,896
[night din]
891
00:43:17,231 --> 00:43:20,067
[digital whining]
892
00:43:24,304 --> 00:43:25,842
[Amy]
I wanna do the full spectrum.
893
00:43:25,877 --> 00:43:27,910
-[John] Yup.
-[Amy] I'm gonna go in there?
894
00:43:28,781 --> 00:43:30,011
Oh, my God.
895
00:43:30,046 --> 00:43:32,178
-Where?
-[John] Just on that chair.
896
00:43:33,313 --> 00:43:34,752
And then
just do some--
897
00:43:34,787 --> 00:43:35,918
just ask a question,
see if you can
898
00:43:35,953 --> 00:43:37,315
get the [indistinct]
to go off.
899
00:43:37,922 --> 00:43:40,824
[Amy] So, my name's Amy.
And you know me.
900
00:43:40,859 --> 00:43:42,991
I've been coming
to this house for years.
901
00:43:43,026 --> 00:43:44,993
[beeping]
902
00:43:47,228 --> 00:43:49,261
Hi. [sighs]
903
00:43:49,296 --> 00:43:50,735
[under breath]
Oh, my God.
904
00:43:52,332 --> 00:43:53,870
Can you
do that again?
905
00:43:56,435 --> 00:43:58,006
You know
I don't like this room.
906
00:43:59,812 --> 00:44:00,943
[Brad] What's that noise?
907
00:44:00,978 --> 00:44:02,439
[John]
Sounds like [indistinct].
908
00:44:02,474 --> 00:44:03,979
[Brad] Which one?
909
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:06,784
It's this one.
910
00:44:06,819 --> 00:44:10,150
[faint beeping]
911
00:44:13,419 --> 00:44:17,058
[Amy]
Are you the spirit who made
912
00:44:17,093 --> 00:44:19,192
all that light
913
00:44:19,227 --> 00:44:21,898
happen with Alice
914
00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:23,801
when she was
in this room?
915
00:44:26,465 --> 00:44:28,938
-[beeping]
-[John] Put this one there.
916
00:44:30,205 --> 00:44:33,239
I know it's a lot
we're asking of you
917
00:44:33,274 --> 00:44:35,472
and it takes
a lot of energy
918
00:44:35,507 --> 00:44:37,078
to be able
to communicate.
919
00:44:37,784 --> 00:44:40,114
But I really want you
to try really hard.
920
00:44:40,149 --> 00:44:43,722
[low tense music]
921
00:44:45,858 --> 00:44:47,385
All right.
We're going to walk out.
922
00:44:47,420 --> 00:44:52,830
♪
923
00:44:54,064 --> 00:44:55,360
[beeping]
924
00:44:55,395 --> 00:45:00,772
♪
925
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:06,811
So, Alice
is here with us tonight.
926
00:45:06,846 --> 00:45:10,210
And I know y'all really
like having Alice come in.
927
00:45:14,887 --> 00:45:16,920
Can you all
do something to show
928
00:45:16,955 --> 00:45:18,823
that you're happy
Alice is here?
929
00:45:23,291 --> 00:45:25,863
What we want to do tonight
is engage with you
930
00:45:25,898 --> 00:45:28,294
and understand who you are,
what your name is
931
00:45:28,329 --> 00:45:30,934
and why you're attached
to the house and the property.
932
00:45:30,969 --> 00:45:33,838
♪
933
00:45:33,873 --> 00:45:37,908
[metallic rustling]
934
00:45:37,943 --> 00:45:41,879
Is anyone here
a victim of the fire?
935
00:45:47,315 --> 00:45:49,788
[Sabrina] Are you buried
on this property?
936
00:45:50,923 --> 00:45:53,121
[Brad] Do you remember
the fire in this town?
937
00:45:55,895 --> 00:45:57,488
Do you understand
that this house,
938
00:45:57,523 --> 00:45:58,929
this-- this property,
939
00:45:58,964 --> 00:46:00,425
where we're
standing at right now,
940
00:46:00,460 --> 00:46:02,262
this is Alice's home.
941
00:46:03,969 --> 00:46:05,837
You're not supposed
to be here.
942
00:46:05,872 --> 00:46:08,301
[quiet rattling]
943
00:46:08,908 --> 00:46:10,237
[blipping]
944
00:46:12,604 --> 00:46:14,373
-What was that?
-Did-- What happened?
945
00:46:14,408 --> 00:46:15,572
Did the light dim?
946
00:46:15,607 --> 00:46:17,211
I mean, something dimmed.
947
00:46:18,148 --> 00:46:21,050
Oh, I just thought
something dimmed.
948
00:46:21,085 --> 00:46:22,480
I thought
the room dimmed.
949
00:46:22,515 --> 00:46:27,892
[tense music]
950
00:46:29,093 --> 00:46:31,159
[John] Alice, they know
your voice better than anybody.
951
00:46:31,194 --> 00:46:33,524
So, any--
any, anything you have.
952
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:35,064
Ask. Just--
953
00:46:36,232 --> 00:46:38,331
Okay,
is there anybody here
954
00:46:38,366 --> 00:46:40,168
who's never been
here before?
955
00:46:42,568 --> 00:46:44,975
Can you speak
so that we can hear you?
956
00:46:47,947 --> 00:46:50,343
-[strong blipping]
-[Brad] There you go. Ooh!
957
00:46:53,986 --> 00:46:55,447
[Brad]
That's pretty interesting.
958
00:46:56,252 --> 00:46:57,482
[John] Yeah?
959
00:46:57,517 --> 00:46:58,890
[Brad]
That was a pretty big hit, too.
960
00:46:58,925 --> 00:47:00,892
Three
of the lights lit up.
961
00:47:02,621 --> 00:47:04,962
We appreciate
any form of communication
962
00:47:04,997 --> 00:47:06,590
-that you do.
-[strong blipping].
963
00:47:06,625 --> 00:47:08,163
-Like that.
-[Brad] That's crazy.
964
00:47:11,234 --> 00:47:14,169
We're trying
to uncover who you are...
965
00:47:15,469 --> 00:47:17,007
and how
we can help you.
966
00:47:17,669 --> 00:47:18,943
[Sabrina] So weird.
967
00:47:18,978 --> 00:47:22,408
[eerie instrumental]
968
00:47:25,017 --> 00:47:26,511
[Amy]
Should probably all sit down.
969
00:47:26,546 --> 00:47:28,018
[John] Alice.
970
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:32,121
[Brad] And it's interesting
that it's not going off
971
00:47:32,156 --> 00:47:33,892
now with Amy
right next to it.
972
00:47:35,962 --> 00:47:37,225
[John]
Walk over there again.
973
00:47:43,101 --> 00:47:44,595
Walk towards
the back door, Amy.
974
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:46,201
[Amy quietly] Okay.
975
00:47:47,006 --> 00:47:48,269
[John]
You want her to go outside?
976
00:47:48,304 --> 00:47:49,699
-If you want her to go outsi--
-[beeping]
977
00:47:49,734 --> 00:47:51,008
-[Sabrina] Oh, look.
-[Brad] Look how
978
00:47:51,043 --> 00:47:52,273
far away she is.
979
00:47:53,507 --> 00:47:55,210
Look how
far away she is.
980
00:47:55,245 --> 00:47:56,508
[Sabrina] 'Kay, that's weird.
981
00:47:58,281 --> 00:48:01,315
[door creaking]
982
00:48:03,385 --> 00:48:07,090
[night din]
983
00:48:07,125 --> 00:48:08,685
All right, let's--
let's-- let's transition.
984
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,225
Let's leave this here.
985
00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:11,655
Let's leave this room pot
here in this chair,
986
00:48:11,690 --> 00:48:13,096
and we'll take
the full spectrum camera.
987
00:48:13,131 --> 00:48:15,065
And we'll sit out
in the backyard.
988
00:48:21,601 --> 00:48:24,569
[night din]
989
00:48:24,604 --> 00:48:29,981
♪
990
00:48:34,548 --> 00:48:37,351
[Brad]
That's a very old tree.
991
00:48:40,356 --> 00:48:42,092
[Alice] It is.
I thought I was...
992
00:48:43,458 --> 00:48:45,326
[indistinct]
993
00:48:45,361 --> 00:48:46,426
Right there.
994
00:48:47,033 --> 00:48:49,165
[strong blipping]
995
00:48:51,136 --> 00:48:52,432
[John]
We're trying to figure out
996
00:48:52,467 --> 00:48:56,370
if there is a body
buried in the ground--
997
00:48:56,405 --> 00:48:57,668
[bird squawks]
998
00:48:57,703 --> 00:49:01,507
[night din]
999
00:49:11,783 --> 00:49:14,091
If you're buried here
on the property,
1000
00:49:14,126 --> 00:49:16,489
can you come up
to this device
1001
00:49:16,524 --> 00:49:18,029
and make it
light up?
1002
00:49:19,725 --> 00:49:21,395
[Sabrina]
Why is that cat digging?
1003
00:49:26,501 --> 00:49:27,533
It's interesting.
1004
00:49:31,077 --> 00:49:33,374
All right, y'all,
let's wrap it up
1005
00:49:33,409 --> 00:49:35,442
and let's head back
into the house.
1006
00:49:38,777 --> 00:49:40,579
That does not include
the kitty cat.
1007
00:49:41,549 --> 00:49:43,318
[Brad]
No, cats stay here.
1008
00:49:45,817 --> 00:49:47,421
[Alice]
Sure that cat's not hungry.
1009
00:49:47,456 --> 00:49:48,653
[Amy chuckles] Yeah.
1010
00:49:48,688 --> 00:49:53,559
♪
1011
00:49:54,628 --> 00:49:58,399
[Steve] So, guys,
all of these red flags, right?
1012
00:49:58,434 --> 00:50:01,369
That red flag,
the red flags, see 'em?
1013
00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:04,669
Those are all
spots that
1014
00:50:04,704 --> 00:50:06,770
the ground-penetrating radar
1015
00:50:06,805 --> 00:50:08,640
detected that
there could be
1016
00:50:08,675 --> 00:50:11,280
individual bodies
or burials.
1017
00:50:11,315 --> 00:50:13,150
-Really?
-Yeah. Yep.
1018
00:50:13,185 --> 00:50:16,813
Um, and even there,
that red flag right there.
1019
00:50:16,848 --> 00:50:18,716
Now, the geophysicist
1020
00:50:18,751 --> 00:50:21,158
found spots right here.
1021
00:50:21,193 --> 00:50:24,095
She said that
there could be a body.
1022
00:50:24,130 --> 00:50:26,328
-[Alice] Oh, my goodness.
-Right here.
1023
00:50:26,363 --> 00:50:27,461
So--
1024
00:50:28,530 --> 00:50:30,101
Just when it hits me,
1025
00:50:30,136 --> 00:50:31,465
the bodies is the most
intriguing thing to me.
1026
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,797
But it's-- so it's crazy,
so you're telling me that
1027
00:50:33,832 --> 00:50:36,569
each red flag
is a potential body?
1028
00:50:36,604 --> 00:50:38,175
Yeah. Yeah.
1029
00:50:38,474 --> 00:50:41,145
We had
a geophysicist come here
1030
00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:43,114
and she marked
some places that she thought
1031
00:50:43,149 --> 00:50:45,248
were possible burial sites.
1032
00:50:45,283 --> 00:50:47,250
We had ground-penetrating
radar come
1033
00:50:47,285 --> 00:50:49,318
and he marked places
that he thought
1034
00:50:49,353 --> 00:50:52,222
were possible unmarked graves.
1035
00:50:52,257 --> 00:50:54,422
You know, doing research
with Mary Alice,
1036
00:50:54,457 --> 00:50:57,557
it does seem that
this property could have been
1037
00:50:57,592 --> 00:50:59,856
part of all
of these properties, honestly,
1038
00:50:59,891 --> 00:51:02,793
part of
the original graveyard.
1039
00:51:02,828 --> 00:51:05,730
And that everything
else was moved
1040
00:51:05,765 --> 00:51:08,271
but they just
left the bodies.
1041
00:51:08,306 --> 00:51:10,405
You know, that--
that is a possible scenario.
1042
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,671
So I wanted to see
if Alice and the team
1043
00:51:12,706 --> 00:51:14,211
wanted to dig there.
1044
00:51:14,246 --> 00:51:15,707
And that,
ethically, you know,
1045
00:51:15,742 --> 00:51:17,544
that's a bit of a gray area.
1046
00:51:17,579 --> 00:51:19,183
You know,
should you shouldn't you?
1047
00:51:19,218 --> 00:51:20,844
But I thought
it would be important
1048
00:51:20,879 --> 00:51:22,615
for a few different reasons.
1049
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:25,321
One, if we found something,
we could offer proper burial.
1050
00:51:25,356 --> 00:51:28,687
We could do things
that could possibly get Alice
1051
00:51:28,722 --> 00:51:31,525
to feel better in terms of
the phenomena happening here.
1052
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,890
And maybe show Alice
that it is something
1053
00:51:33,925 --> 00:51:36,695
that is human in nature,
that it could have been
1054
00:51:36,730 --> 00:51:38,268
a person that was once alive.
1055
00:51:38,303 --> 00:51:40,501
And it's not
as scary as it could be
1056
00:51:40,536 --> 00:51:43,273
if it was something that
she couldn't put a face to.
1057
00:51:43,308 --> 00:51:45,539
If we did find any bodies
1058
00:51:45,574 --> 00:51:48,245
or any remnants of
an old foundation or anything,
1059
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,577
that there was
a structure there at one point,
1060
00:51:50,612 --> 00:51:53,283
it would make her
feel a little bit better.
1061
00:51:53,318 --> 00:51:55,615
If it's bodies
that's more modern.
1062
00:51:55,650 --> 00:51:58,816
There's a chance there may be
buried with personal items...
1063
00:51:59,654 --> 00:52:01,951
and a metal detector
could possibly pick up
1064
00:52:01,986 --> 00:52:04,294
buttons or rings.
1065
00:52:04,329 --> 00:52:06,230
-It's just an idea.
-[Steve] No, it's a good idea.
1066
00:52:06,265 --> 00:52:07,495
Actually, that's a great idea.
1067
00:52:07,530 --> 00:52:10,795
Because if you
do find artifacts, right?
1068
00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:12,830
Like anything that looks like
it belonged to a family...
1069
00:52:13,437 --> 00:52:16,471
we can use those items
as trigger objects.
1070
00:52:16,836 --> 00:52:19,243
Here's what we need to do
is get the excavator over here
1071
00:52:19,278 --> 00:52:21,542
so we can start
getting it into the ground.
1072
00:52:21,577 --> 00:52:23,709
And Alice, I can probably
use your metal detector.
1073
00:52:23,744 --> 00:52:25,249
Yeah, you can.
I still have it.
1074
00:52:25,284 --> 00:52:26,514
[Brad] Okay. Beautiful.
1075
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:28,582
Brad, we'll get you
metal detecting
1076
00:52:28,617 --> 00:52:31,420
and I'll go
get shovels and gloves.
1077
00:52:31,455 --> 00:52:33,587
-[Brad] Let's get it!
-Yeah. Let-- let's get started.
1078
00:52:33,622 --> 00:52:35,490
[whirring]
1079
00:52:35,525 --> 00:52:38,328
[upbeat strings & piano
instrumental]
1080
00:52:39,925 --> 00:52:42,464
[Brad] I Just think there's
no other location in the world
1081
00:52:42,499 --> 00:52:44,466
that investigates
this hard, man.
1082
00:52:44,501 --> 00:52:49,537
♪
1083
00:52:56,876 --> 00:52:58,216
[Alice] Ah.
1084
00:52:58,482 --> 00:53:00,548
Hold on tight. All right.
1085
00:53:00,583 --> 00:53:05,619
♪
1086
00:53:14,025 --> 00:53:17,697
[beeping]
1087
00:53:17,732 --> 00:53:22,768
♪
1088
00:53:26,378 --> 00:53:29,874
[Alice speaking indistinctly]
1089
00:53:29,909 --> 00:53:35,319
♪
1090
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:41,952
Even though I've lost
the house to my personal use,
1091
00:53:41,987 --> 00:53:43,591
I do feel like
I've done the right thing
1092
00:53:43,626 --> 00:53:45,890
by just
opening it up to investigators.
1093
00:53:45,925 --> 00:53:47,661
I feel like at least,
you know, someone's getting
1094
00:53:47,696 --> 00:53:50,334
some benefit out of it,
which will be justified
1095
00:53:50,369 --> 00:53:52,028
in that something
really will be found.
1096
00:53:52,063 --> 00:53:54,470
[street din]
1097
00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:03,545
[eerie music playing]
1098
00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:08,616
♪
1099
00:54:09,850 --> 00:54:11,289
Hey, buddy.
1100
00:54:11,819 --> 00:54:13,720
-What's up, man?
-Hey, man.
1101
00:54:13,755 --> 00:54:14,985
[Dustin] How's it going?
1102
00:54:15,020 --> 00:54:16,921
I've known Dustin
for many, many years.
1103
00:54:16,956 --> 00:54:20,364
And he's a great investigator.
He's a good friend.
1104
00:54:20,399 --> 00:54:22,894
He's one
of the most kind people
1105
00:54:22,929 --> 00:54:25,534
I've ever met
and worked with.
1106
00:54:25,569 --> 00:54:27,668
I'm Dustin Perry.
I'm a paranormal researcher.
1107
00:54:27,703 --> 00:54:30,605
I've been investigating
for about 24 years.
1108
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,002
I've traveled internationally.
1109
00:54:32,037 --> 00:54:33,872
I've had opportunity
to investigate
1110
00:54:33,907 --> 00:54:35,676
in 27 different countries.
1111
00:54:35,711 --> 00:54:38,877
The first impression
of arriving at Alice's house
1112
00:54:38,912 --> 00:54:41,011
is it's very unassuming.
1113
00:54:41,046 --> 00:54:42,617
But I've learned
over the years,
1114
00:54:42,652 --> 00:54:45,521
the places that look
very unassuming often have
1115
00:54:45,556 --> 00:54:47,083
some interesting
activity going on.
1116
00:54:47,118 --> 00:54:48,623
-[Steve] Dustin Perry.
-[Dustin] Hey Alice.
1117
00:54:48,658 --> 00:54:50,394
-How are you?
-[Alice] Hey! How are you?
1118
00:54:50,429 --> 00:54:51,758
[Dustin] I'm very well.
I like to hug people.
1119
00:54:51,793 --> 00:54:53,694
Yeah, well this--
yeah this is Mississippi.
1120
00:54:53,729 --> 00:54:55,124
-We do too.
-[Dustin] Alice's house
1121
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:56,928
is very unique
in the fact that
1122
00:54:56,963 --> 00:54:58,567
there's no
other place like it
1123
00:54:58,602 --> 00:55:01,097
in terms of
the amount of time
1124
00:55:01,132 --> 00:55:03,000
it's been allowed
to be investigated.
1125
00:55:03,035 --> 00:55:05,772
For me, the paranormal
is really a spiritual journey.
1126
00:55:05,807 --> 00:55:07,708
However, I try to look
at things scientifically
1127
00:55:07,743 --> 00:55:10,513
to disprove
and also to offer evidence
1128
00:55:10,548 --> 00:55:11,976
so people can understand.
1129
00:55:12,011 --> 00:55:17,388
♪
1130
00:55:24,892 --> 00:55:26,496
My name is Elizabeth Saint.
1131
00:55:26,531 --> 00:55:28,729
I have a background
in electrical engineering.
1132
00:55:28,764 --> 00:55:31,699
I've been investigating
the paranormal 10 years?
1133
00:55:31,734 --> 00:55:33,503
But it's always been
a part of my life.
1134
00:55:33,538 --> 00:55:35,032
-Hey, how's it going?
-Good. How are you?
1135
00:55:35,067 --> 00:55:36,836
-[Elizabeth] Good. I'm good.
-[Steve] Oh, man! Thank you.
1136
00:55:36,871 --> 00:55:39,102
Elizabeth,
I've known for quite some time.
1137
00:55:39,137 --> 00:55:40,741
I've actually
never worked with her
1138
00:55:40,776 --> 00:55:43,744
but I know her background
in electrical engineering.
1139
00:55:43,779 --> 00:55:46,483
I know that she
likes to build equipment.
1140
00:55:46,518 --> 00:55:48,144
So, I thought it was
really important to have
1141
00:55:48,179 --> 00:55:50,619
somebody come in
that can build equipment
1142
00:55:50,654 --> 00:55:52,984
and tailor it
to certain experiences,
1143
00:55:53,019 --> 00:55:54,788
to certain types of phenomena.
1144
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,626
Having a background
in electrical engineering
1145
00:55:57,661 --> 00:55:59,727
has actually been
really advantageous
1146
00:55:59,762 --> 00:56:01,190
when I go
on my investigations.
1147
00:56:01,225 --> 00:56:02,895
-Hi!
-[Alice] I'm Alice.
1148
00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:04,765
-I'm Elizabeth.
-[Alice] It's nice to meet you.
1149
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,734
-It's great to meet you, too.
-[Alice] Yeah, come on in.
1150
00:56:06,769 --> 00:56:08,670
[Elizabeth] You know, I look
at things a little differently.
1151
00:56:08,705 --> 00:56:11,607
Like, it's exciting
when you have an experience
1152
00:56:11,642 --> 00:56:14,610
but there's
always this side of me
1153
00:56:14,645 --> 00:56:16,711
that is looking
for another explanation.
1154
00:56:16,746 --> 00:56:18,647
I don't know a lot about you,
of your equipment
1155
00:56:18,682 --> 00:56:19,747
and electrical stuff
and all that.
1156
00:56:19,782 --> 00:56:21,144
But I think it's fascinating.
1157
00:56:21,179 --> 00:56:22,750
I would like to see
1158
00:56:22,785 --> 00:56:24,180
how it works
and see what you get.
1159
00:56:24,215 --> 00:56:26,919
I think it's great
that Alice is open
1160
00:56:26,954 --> 00:56:29,955
to the possibilities here
of what could be going on.
1161
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:33,662
You know, a lot of times you go
to a residential location
1162
00:56:33,697 --> 00:56:35,499
and they already
have it in their mind
1163
00:56:35,534 --> 00:56:37,061
what they think is going on.
1164
00:56:37,096 --> 00:56:39,899
It doesn't leave a lot of room
for finding out real answers.
1165
00:56:40,704 --> 00:56:42,198
They're so
wrapped up in the idea
1166
00:56:42,233 --> 00:56:44,002
that this is the haunted place
and this happens
1167
00:56:44,037 --> 00:56:45,542
and that happens.
1168
00:56:45,577 --> 00:56:47,841
And you can't possibly
show them anything else.
1169
00:56:47,876 --> 00:56:51,075
Where here, Miss Alice
and the team just want to know
1170
00:56:51,110 --> 00:56:52,142
what's causing these things.
1171
00:56:52,177 --> 00:56:53,550
Is it natural?
1172
00:56:53,585 --> 00:56:54,947
Is it some
supernatural phenomenon?
1173
00:56:54,982 --> 00:56:57,015
Or-- It's nice
that it's not like, "This is--
1174
00:56:57,050 --> 00:56:59,215
There's a portal,
there's a demon," and like,
1175
00:56:59,250 --> 00:57:01,118
you know,
it goes down that-- that road.
1176
00:57:01,153 --> 00:57:02,724
Here, it's not like that.
1177
00:57:02,759 --> 00:57:04,561
People are just so excited
to get the evidence.
1178
00:57:04,596 --> 00:57:06,563
And I am with you
100% on that.
1179
00:57:06,598 --> 00:57:08,026
Like,
I am also very excited
1180
00:57:08,061 --> 00:57:10,765
but let's have it be real
1181
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,602
so that we feel
better about the work
1182
00:57:12,637 --> 00:57:13,900
that we're doing
in this field.
1183
00:57:16,201 --> 00:57:18,971
So this has
an accelerometer inside
1184
00:57:19,006 --> 00:57:22,139
that pretty much is a center
that monitors any movement.
1185
00:57:22,174 --> 00:57:26,550
[long beeping]
1186
00:57:29,214 --> 00:57:30,719
Do any of these
balls ever move?
1187
00:57:30,754 --> 00:57:32,116
The ones that are back here?
Yeah?
1188
00:57:32,151 --> 00:57:33,689
[Alice] Not from back there.
Just--
1189
00:57:33,724 --> 00:57:34,921
Yeah, when they're--
Just the stairwell?
1190
00:57:34,956 --> 00:57:36,252
[Alice] Yeah.
1191
00:57:36,287 --> 00:57:37,858
[Elizabeth] Other balls
have moved, too?
1192
00:57:37,893 --> 00:57:39,629
Well, if-- if-- Whatever
we asked, those--
1193
00:57:39,664 --> 00:57:41,125
-Hello!
-[Dustin] Hey, man!
1194
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,533
-How's it going?
-[Brad] Hey, hey!
1195
00:57:42,568 --> 00:57:43,734
-How you doing? Dustin.
-Man.
1196
00:57:43,769 --> 00:57:45,602
-[Dustin] Good to see you.
-[Brad] Good to see you, man.
1197
00:57:45,637 --> 00:57:46,867
-What's up?
-Nice to meet you.
1198
00:57:46,902 --> 00:57:48,198
-Nice to meet you as well--
-Hey!
1199
00:57:48,233 --> 00:57:49,771
-[Elizabeth] Hey!
-How are you?
1200
00:57:49,806 --> 00:57:51,267
-[Elizabeth] Elizabeth.
-I know who you are.
1201
00:57:51,302 --> 00:57:52,807
-So nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you, too.
1202
00:57:52,842 --> 00:57:54,611
Great to see you guys.
1203
00:57:54,646 --> 00:57:55,876
[Elizabeth] Something I love
about Brad and John
1204
00:57:55,911 --> 00:57:57,240
is, honestly,
they're so compelled
1205
00:57:57,275 --> 00:57:58,978
to find Alice answers.
1206
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,146
When it comes to the equipment
in the paranormal community,
1207
00:58:02,181 --> 00:58:03,917
it's very, very limited.
1208
00:58:04,623 --> 00:58:06,018
You have to understand, like,
1209
00:58:06,053 --> 00:58:09,659
these are items that are
being mass produced for sale.
1210
00:58:09,991 --> 00:58:11,628
You know?
1211
00:58:11,663 --> 00:58:13,861
They're not sent data sheets
on what kind of sensors
1212
00:58:13,896 --> 00:58:15,830
are involved
inside the equipment.
1213
00:58:16,195 --> 00:58:18,030
You know, I kind of feel
one of the biggest problems
1214
00:58:18,065 --> 00:58:20,901
with paranormal research
is that everyone's always,
1215
00:58:20,936 --> 00:58:23,167
as I say,
singing from the same hymnal.
1216
00:58:23,202 --> 00:58:24,707
You know,
we get all these devices
1217
00:58:24,742 --> 00:58:26,203
and what do we do
to make new ones?
1218
00:58:26,238 --> 00:58:28,040
We just put
a new light on it.
1219
00:58:28,075 --> 00:58:30,911
You see some lights go off,
you hear an alarm go off.
1220
00:58:30,946 --> 00:58:34,277
And you're like, "Ooh, ah,"
like, "There's something here."
1221
00:58:34,312 --> 00:58:35,883
But that's not the case.
1222
00:58:35,918 --> 00:58:37,247
You know, like,
there's so many other factors
1223
00:58:37,282 --> 00:58:39,051
to take
into consideration.
1224
00:58:39,086 --> 00:58:40,316
Or we combined, you know--
1225
00:58:40,351 --> 00:58:41,790
"Now it has
two features in one."
1226
00:58:41,825 --> 00:58:43,088
It's like,
but it's really nothing new.
1227
00:58:43,123 --> 00:58:44,595
It's the same thing.
1228
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:46,091
And I think that...
1229
00:58:47,292 --> 00:58:48,797
there has to be expansion
1230
00:58:48,832 --> 00:58:51,129
outside of the community
to kind of understand
1231
00:58:51,164 --> 00:58:52,834
the tools that they're using.
1232
00:58:53,166 --> 00:58:55,133
And to also understand
1233
00:58:55,168 --> 00:58:56,640
all the false positives
1234
00:58:56,675 --> 00:58:58,268
that they are getting
in the process.
1235
00:58:58,809 --> 00:59:00,809
Coming to the house,
I did want to create
1236
00:59:00,844 --> 00:59:03,647
and-- and kind of customize
things that made sense
1237
00:59:03,682 --> 00:59:05,913
to what you guys
experience here, you know?
1238
00:59:05,948 --> 00:59:07,981
And everything
that you documented before.
1239
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,687
And, you know, I--
1240
00:59:10,722 --> 00:59:13,382
I like to
sometimes do things
1241
00:59:13,417 --> 00:59:15,791
that other people
wouldn't necessarily do
1242
00:59:15,826 --> 00:59:17,254
just because
if we don't try it,
1243
00:59:17,289 --> 00:59:18,860
we won't know
what's going to work.
1244
00:59:19,357 --> 00:59:21,357
I have great respect
for Elizabeth Saint,
1245
00:59:21,392 --> 00:59:22,897
having known her
over the years,
1246
00:59:22,932 --> 00:59:24,393
having traveled from,
you know,
1247
00:59:24,428 --> 00:59:26,098
conventions
and things together
1248
00:59:26,133 --> 00:59:28,298
and knowing that Elizabeth
goes out of her way
1249
00:59:28,333 --> 00:59:30,036
to make specific equipment
1250
00:59:30,071 --> 00:59:32,203
like the light anomaly
that's here.
1251
00:59:32,238 --> 00:59:35,976
This is the-- the light sensor
I told you about.
1252
00:59:36,011 --> 00:59:38,814
So maybe if we do see
any light anomalies,
1253
00:59:38,849 --> 00:59:40,882
we might be able to--
It'll let us know
1254
00:59:40,917 --> 00:59:43,753
by the color
that it shines, essentially.
1255
00:59:43,788 --> 00:59:45,854
She developed something
to look for those lights
1256
00:59:45,889 --> 00:59:47,856
and then to try to figure out
which color lights it is.
1257
00:59:47,891 --> 00:59:49,726
And it lights up responsively.
1258
00:59:49,761 --> 00:59:50,892
And the most famous thing,
1259
00:59:50,927 --> 00:59:52,256
the ball moving
down the stairs.
1260
00:59:52,291 --> 00:59:54,225
So she makes
a ball that she can
1261
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:55,831
measure any slight movement.
1262
00:59:55,866 --> 00:59:58,196
So, what's
unique about this is, um,
1263
00:59:58,231 --> 00:59:59,362
I call it
the comm sphere.
1264
00:59:59,936 --> 01:00:02,838
And it actually
communicates with my phone.
1265
01:00:02,873 --> 01:00:06,237
The Y x or Z axis and it
goes right to her software.
1266
01:00:06,272 --> 01:00:07,304
And it sends her an alert.
1267
01:00:07,339 --> 01:00:09,075
So it'll show me values
1268
01:00:09,110 --> 01:00:12,782
in the X, Y, Z direction,
if it moves.
1269
01:00:12,817 --> 01:00:15,884
To have the passion to say,
1270
01:00:15,919 --> 01:00:17,380
"I'm doing this case.
1271
01:00:17,415 --> 01:00:19,085
What's the type of activity?
1272
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,054
What can I make
specifically that will speak
1273
01:00:21,089 --> 01:00:24,024
to trying to measure
that type of activity?"
1274
01:00:24,059 --> 01:00:25,762
I mean, that's--
I have trouble
1275
01:00:25,797 --> 01:00:27,324
getting on the Wi-Fi sometimes.
1276
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:29,062
She's like,
light years above that.
1277
01:00:29,097 --> 01:00:32,032
So, I've known Dustin Perry
for a few years now.
1278
01:00:32,067 --> 01:00:34,771
And we've
always seen each other like,
1279
01:00:34,806 --> 01:00:36,267
on the road or,
you know,
1280
01:00:36,302 --> 01:00:37,939
the--
the paranormal community
1281
01:00:37,974 --> 01:00:39,743
is very, like,
tight knit community,
1282
01:00:39,778 --> 01:00:40,975
so we've always
run into each other.
1283
01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:42,911
But I've never
had the opportunity
1284
01:00:42,946 --> 01:00:45,441
to actually work with him,
so I'm really excited
1285
01:00:45,476 --> 01:00:47,245
that I'll be
able to do that here.
1286
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,917
[Dustin] Um, Alice.
1287
01:00:48,952 --> 01:00:50,380
She seems to really
embrace what's going on here,
1288
01:00:50,415 --> 01:00:53,119
which is odd because she also
seems to be afraid of it.
1289
01:00:53,154 --> 01:00:55,858
And all I want to do
is go upstairs and to the left.
1290
01:00:55,893 --> 01:00:57,156
Ever since
I've walked in the house.
1291
01:00:57,191 --> 01:00:58,388
-Really?
-[Dustin] Yeah.
1292
01:00:58,423 --> 01:00:59,422
When I first
walked into the house,
1293
01:00:59,457 --> 01:01:00,489
I even told her that.
1294
01:01:00,524 --> 01:01:01,963
When I first walked in,
1295
01:01:01,998 --> 01:01:04,328
I was immediately
drawn to that door frame.
1296
01:01:04,363 --> 01:01:05,802
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
1297
01:01:05,837 --> 01:01:07,232
Just based on
years of experience
1298
01:01:07,267 --> 01:01:08,398
and feeling
drawn to places
1299
01:01:08,433 --> 01:01:10,103
like that seems
to be the place.
1300
01:01:10,138 --> 01:01:11,973
-[Elizabeth] Me too. Yeah.
-[Dustin] So.
1301
01:01:14,109 --> 01:01:16,076
Just a couple
of trip hazards here.
1302
01:01:16,111 --> 01:01:17,176
[Elizabeth] Yeah.
1303
01:01:17,211 --> 01:01:21,785
♪
1304
01:01:21,820 --> 01:01:23,017
[Dustin] It's interesting too,
because we have
1305
01:01:23,052 --> 01:01:24,414
the three mirrors
like you said here.
1306
01:01:24,449 --> 01:01:26,053
And then,
there's another right there.
1307
01:01:26,088 --> 01:01:28,253
I was just trying to think
for light purposes too
1308
01:01:28,288 --> 01:01:29,518
but if the door's closed,
1309
01:01:29,553 --> 01:01:30,860
she does have this-- What?
1310
01:01:30,895 --> 01:01:32,191
Is this is a balcony area?
1311
01:01:32,523 --> 01:01:33,863
I--
1312
01:01:33,898 --> 01:01:35,095
[Dustin]
But there's no road there.
1313
01:01:35,130 --> 01:01:36,360
So, you're
not getting any, like,
1314
01:01:36,395 --> 01:01:37,295
car light
coming in through there?
1315
01:01:37,330 --> 01:01:38,395
[Elizabeth] No.
1316
01:01:39,564 --> 01:01:41,937
Because I was just trying
to think for bouncing light.
1317
01:01:41,972 --> 01:01:44,104
We are close
to the road in the front.
1318
01:01:47,010 --> 01:01:48,207
[Dustin] Watch that wire.
1319
01:01:51,575 --> 01:01:53,278
[Elizabeth] It's just
a-- a walk-in?
1320
01:01:56,514 --> 01:01:57,986
What's with all the mirrors?
1321
01:01:58,021 --> 01:01:59,416
There's one on the floor.
1322
01:02:00,155 --> 01:02:03,123
I don't know.
There is a crawlspace.
1323
01:02:04,929 --> 01:02:06,159
-[Elizabeth] Oh, is there?
-[Dustin] Yeah.
1324
01:02:09,296 --> 01:02:12,033
I-- I can't really open it.
Stay right there.
1325
01:02:12,431 --> 01:02:13,969
Do you know
if anyone's ever been?
1326
01:02:14,466 --> 01:02:16,169
No one's gone
in the crawlspace?
1327
01:02:16,468 --> 01:02:18,204
We have to go
in the crawlspace.
1328
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:20,173
[Dustin] Yeah, we definitely
have to go in the crawlspace.
1329
01:02:20,208 --> 01:02:21,911
-[Elizabeth] Is there asbestos?
-[Dustin] Uh, no. That's uh--
1330
01:02:21,946 --> 01:02:23,275
[Dustin] It was put in the 90s.
That's pink.
1331
01:02:23,310 --> 01:02:25,046
-[Elizabeth] Oh, yeah.
-[Dustin] Yeah. Oh.
1332
01:02:25,884 --> 01:02:27,246
[Elizabeth] What is it?
1333
01:02:27,281 --> 01:02:28,918
[Dustin] All my hair's
just standing up there.
1334
01:02:28,953 --> 01:02:30,183
[Elizabeth gasps] It is.
1335
01:02:30,889 --> 01:02:32,548
Like, it just felt like
something, like, grazed me
1336
01:02:32,583 --> 01:02:34,352
and I just
looked down and everything...
1337
01:02:35,025 --> 01:02:36,255
[Elizabeth] That's so weird.
1338
01:02:36,290 --> 01:02:37,828
[Dustin] It still
feels like more is going.
1339
01:02:38,589 --> 01:02:40,226
It's like you're about
to get electrocuted.
1340
01:02:40,261 --> 01:02:41,832
-[Dustin chuckles] Right.
-[Elizabeth] But right before,
1341
01:02:41,867 --> 01:02:43,064
you know,
you get struck by lightning
1342
01:02:43,099 --> 01:02:44,527
-a lot of times your--
-Yeah.
1343
01:02:44,562 --> 01:02:45,836
-[Elizabeth] Hair will--
-Yeah, it all did.
1344
01:02:46,168 --> 01:02:47,365
[Elizabeth] Hair will stand up.
1345
01:02:48,071 --> 01:02:49,367
-That's odd.
-[Elizabeth] It's weird
1346
01:02:49,402 --> 01:02:50,566
that no one's
been in there.
1347
01:02:50,601 --> 01:02:52,007
[Dustin] I know, right?
For sure.
1348
01:02:52,339 --> 01:02:53,943
Jeez. I'm breaking things.
1349
01:02:56,046 --> 01:02:57,573
It doesn't go
too far back but I mean,
1350
01:02:57,608 --> 01:02:59,047
we could definitely
sit in there and do,
1351
01:02:59,082 --> 01:03:00,312
like an EVP session
or something.
1352
01:03:00,347 --> 01:03:03,051
-Yeah, I think we should.
-[Dustin] Yeah.
1353
01:03:04,384 --> 01:03:05,823
[knocking]
1354
01:03:06,892 --> 01:03:09,156
If there's anybody here
that could hear our voice,
1355
01:03:09,191 --> 01:03:12,225
are you able to communicate
by just knocking for us?
1356
01:03:12,260 --> 01:03:13,424
[knock-knock-knock]
1357
01:03:13,459 --> 01:03:14,865
Can you do
something like that?
1358
01:03:26,538 --> 01:03:27,603
How 'bout in here?
1359
01:03:27,638 --> 01:03:28,879
[knock-knock-knock]
1360
01:03:28,914 --> 01:03:30,111
[faint knock]
1361
01:03:30,641 --> 01:03:32,245
[Elizabeth] Well,
you heard that, right?
1362
01:03:33,281 --> 01:03:34,885
It sounded
like it was in this--
1363
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,546
-It sounded inside.
-[Dustin] Yeah.
1364
01:03:36,581 --> 01:03:38,614
[ominous music]
1365
01:03:38,649 --> 01:03:39,890
Is that a woman's voice?
1366
01:03:40,926 --> 01:03:41,992
-[Elizabeth] I-- I heard a--
-I heard a knock.
1367
01:03:42,027 --> 01:03:44,158
It sounded like it was
maybe like, a woman's voice
1368
01:03:44,193 --> 01:03:45,390
or something
right before it.
1369
01:03:47,262 --> 01:03:48,327
[exhales]
1370
01:03:48,362 --> 01:03:50,263
This happens quick.
1371
01:03:52,003 --> 01:03:54,201
I think we get some good
starting points of ideas
1372
01:03:54,236 --> 01:03:56,368
in terms of trying to do
a focused investigation.
1373
01:03:56,403 --> 01:03:58,238
This area
has already been pretty hot.
1374
01:03:58,273 --> 01:03:59,943
-[Brad] Yeah.
-We've had knocks and response.
1375
01:03:59,978 --> 01:04:02,506
So, if we do
a session in the crawlspace.
1376
01:04:02,541 --> 01:04:05,377
-Uh-huh.
-Use your ion charger,
1377
01:04:05,412 --> 01:04:07,984
throw that in there for a while
and then repeat the session.
1378
01:04:08,019 --> 01:04:09,546
Right.
And see if there's a change.
1379
01:04:09,581 --> 01:04:11,383
-Yeah.
-I think that's smart.
1380
01:04:11,418 --> 01:04:14,287
I used to have an ion generator
in my bedroom when I was a kid.
1381
01:04:14,322 --> 01:04:16,388
It was like an air purifier
and ion generator.
1382
01:04:16,687 --> 01:04:18,258
I don't know.
My mom bought it on QVC.
1383
01:04:18,293 --> 01:04:20,359
-[Elizabeth] Okay.
-But it was-- it was nice.
1384
01:04:21,329 --> 01:04:23,395
With ion motors,
it's very interesting.
1385
01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:24,968
Like the one I have,
1386
01:04:25,003 --> 01:04:27,069
you can make it
so it's producing positive
1387
01:04:27,104 --> 01:04:29,434
but you can also make it so
it's producing negative ions.
1388
01:04:29,469 --> 01:04:31,073
And it's going to have
a different feeling
1389
01:04:31,108 --> 01:04:32,173
and a different effect.
1390
01:04:32,208 --> 01:04:34,175
I did bring an ion motor,
1391
01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:37,013
but, um, the one I have
is pretty serious.
1392
01:04:37,048 --> 01:04:38,443
Yeah? I love it!
1393
01:04:38,478 --> 01:04:41,083
"I don't want to brag
but the ion motor I have--"
1394
01:04:41,118 --> 01:04:43,283
It's little
but it packs a punch.
1395
01:04:44,022 --> 01:04:45,615
You're going to
go out that way?
1396
01:04:45,650 --> 01:04:47,023
-[Brad] Yes.
-[Dustin] Or not.
1397
01:04:47,058 --> 01:04:48,717
[Elizabeth laughs]
1398
01:04:48,752 --> 01:04:50,961
[Dustin] Which one
will go to the garage?
1399
01:04:50,996 --> 01:04:52,457
I don't know
which door's which.
1400
01:04:52,492 --> 01:04:53,689
It's like a labyrinth.
1401
01:04:53,724 --> 01:04:55,064
[Brad] [indistinct]
show already.
1402
01:04:55,099 --> 01:04:56,032
[Dustin] Yeah.
I go here, there.
1403
01:04:56,067 --> 01:04:57,330
[Brad chuckles]
1404
01:04:57,365 --> 01:04:59,398
[night din]
1405
01:05:04,636 --> 01:05:06,075
[Elizabeth] What's all this?
1406
01:05:07,210 --> 01:05:08,407
You guys
digging out here?
1407
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:16,382
Wait, stop for a second.
1408
01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:19,220
-Do you hear that?
-[faint whistling]
1409
01:05:19,255 --> 01:05:21,189
-[Alice] What was it?
-Someone's whistling.
1410
01:05:21,521 --> 01:05:23,191
[Alice] Oh, whistling? Yeah.
1411
01:05:23,721 --> 01:05:25,127
[Dustin] Hello?
1412
01:05:25,756 --> 01:05:28,130
[Dustin whistling]
1413
01:05:31,531 --> 01:05:32,564
That's what I heard.
1414
01:05:35,337 --> 01:05:37,007
-[Dustin] Well, let me get--
-There, there, there.
1415
01:05:37,042 --> 01:05:38,371
-[ghostly whistling]
-You don't hear that?
1416
01:05:38,406 --> 01:05:39,702
-[Dustin] I heard it.
-[Elizabeth] You did?
1417
01:05:39,737 --> 01:05:41,143
[Dustin] Yeah.
1418
01:05:41,673 --> 01:05:43,475
-It was the same tune.
-[Dustin] Yeah.
1419
01:05:46,777 --> 01:05:48,315
[Elizabeth] That's so weird.
1420
01:05:54,125 --> 01:05:56,059
-Why that tune?
-[Dustin] I know, right?
1421
01:05:56,094 --> 01:05:58,391
-Frère Jacques.
-It is Frère Jacques.
1422
01:06:04,135 --> 01:06:05,530
[Dustin] Is there
something moving back there?
1423
01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:07,532
[Brad] Totally
noise to my right--
1424
01:06:07,567 --> 01:06:09,237
[Elizabeth] It sounds
like someone's walking.
1425
01:06:09,272 --> 01:06:10,205
[Brad] There's something
just ran across there.
1426
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,536
[receding footsteps]
1427
01:06:14,409 --> 01:06:17,113
I-- I saw something go
like straight across.
1428
01:06:17,148 --> 01:06:20,050
[ominous music]
1429
01:06:20,085 --> 01:06:22,019
[Alice] It's a real
person or what?
1430
01:06:22,846 --> 01:06:24,582
[Dustin] Oh, man.
1431
01:06:24,617 --> 01:06:26,617
[Alice] I heard a woman's voice
over there a couple times.
1432
01:06:26,652 --> 01:06:28,487
[Dustin] You know, Alice,
one thing I will say, though,
1433
01:06:28,522 --> 01:06:31,655
despite all the kind of
touch and go, little bits of,
1434
01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:33,756
of activity even inside.
1435
01:06:33,791 --> 01:06:35,692
Like, I don't know,
for me personally,
1436
01:06:35,727 --> 01:06:37,265
I don't feel
anything that feels like,
1437
01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:39,498
threatening or-- or--
or angry in any way.
1438
01:06:39,533 --> 01:06:41,302
[Alice] My neighbor said--
she said all these [indistinct]
1439
01:06:41,337 --> 01:06:42,798
they like thinking
she sees people.
1440
01:06:42,833 --> 01:06:44,371
She gets out there,
there's nobody there.
1441
01:06:44,406 --> 01:06:46,505
There's no reading's,
like, out here,
1442
01:06:46,540 --> 01:06:49,508
but out here
we had this strange whistling.
1443
01:06:49,543 --> 01:06:51,246
-[Dustin] Yeah.
-Sounded like people were
1444
01:06:51,281 --> 01:06:53,149
having conversation back there.
1445
01:06:53,646 --> 01:06:54,711
[Brad]
Also a female voice.
1446
01:06:55,914 --> 01:06:59,419
[Elizabeth] Um, we heard,
like, footsteps, it seems like.
1447
01:06:59,454 --> 01:07:01,520
You know,
coming back tomorrow
1448
01:07:01,555 --> 01:07:03,456
with more equipment,
1449
01:07:03,491 --> 01:07:05,293
I will be curious to see
1450
01:07:05,328 --> 01:07:07,526
if it responds the same.
1451
01:07:07,561 --> 01:07:09,330
I'm thrilled that you came,
both of you.
1452
01:07:09,365 --> 01:07:10,859
[Elizabeth] Yeah.
Thank you for having us.
1453
01:07:10,894 --> 01:07:12,300
[Dustin] Thank you very much.
We appreciate it.
1454
01:07:12,335 --> 01:07:15,336
Oh, yeah.
It was our-- our pleasure.
1455
01:07:16,735 --> 01:07:18,108
[Brad] And we
get to meet Jacques.
1456
01:07:18,143 --> 01:07:19,439
We have a new person
on the team.
1457
01:07:19,474 --> 01:07:21,177
[Dustin] Yeah.
Your little mascot.
1458
01:07:21,212 --> 01:07:22,475
[Brad] Helps us
dig holes and stuff.
1459
01:07:22,906 --> 01:07:24,708
[Dustin] That's right.
Dig and fill them.
1460
01:07:24,743 --> 01:07:27,381
[Brad] Yes. Yes.
At least he's courteous.
1461
01:07:27,416 --> 01:07:29,086
[Dustin] Yeah,
that's very nice.
1462
01:07:29,748 --> 01:07:32,353
[purposeful piano instrumental]
1463
01:07:32,388 --> 01:07:37,424
♪
1464
01:07:45,236 --> 01:07:46,466
[Morgan] Florence,
1465
01:07:46,501 --> 01:07:48,633
a small town
in central Mississippi.
1466
01:07:49,768 --> 01:07:51,207
Maybe you've
never heard of it.
1467
01:07:52,771 --> 01:07:54,243
It has history.
1468
01:07:54,674 --> 01:07:56,410
Some dark history as well.
1469
01:07:56,907 --> 01:07:58,643
There were outlaws here.
1470
01:07:59,316 --> 01:08:02,350
Bad men, charlatans,
1471
01:08:02,385 --> 01:08:04,319
those who would
steal your money.
1472
01:08:04,783 --> 01:08:06,156
Those who would
take your life.
1473
01:08:06,521 --> 01:08:09,225
And like most good stories,
this story happens
1474
01:08:09,260 --> 01:08:11,227
long ago in a place
far away.
1475
01:08:11,262 --> 01:08:12,690
Western South Carolina.
1476
01:08:13,264 --> 01:08:15,594
A ma'am named Nancy Lusk.
1477
01:08:15,926 --> 01:08:17,464
Her middle name was Agnes.
1478
01:08:17,499 --> 01:08:19,169
And I believe
she actually went by Agnes.
1479
01:08:19,204 --> 01:08:21,468
She was born
in a time of war.
1480
01:08:21,503 --> 01:08:23,470
She came of age
in the events
1481
01:08:23,505 --> 01:08:25,637
leading up
to the American Revolution.
1482
01:08:26,409 --> 01:08:27,903
She was 19 years old.
1483
01:08:27,938 --> 01:08:29,806
She warred-- married
a man named William Steen.
1484
01:08:30,512 --> 01:08:31,907
William Steen
will actually fight
1485
01:08:31,942 --> 01:08:33,315
in the American Revolution
1486
01:08:33,350 --> 01:08:34,811
at the Battle
of Kings Mountain.
1487
01:08:34,846 --> 01:08:38,254
So about 1810, William decides
to take his family West
1488
01:08:38,289 --> 01:08:40,388
into the new
Mississippi territory,
1489
01:08:40,423 --> 01:08:42,357
where the land
is rich and fertile.
1490
01:08:42,755 --> 01:08:43,919
During this interval,
1491
01:08:43,954 --> 01:08:45,525
one of these mules
comes up missing.
1492
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,626
So he goes out
looking for his mule
1493
01:08:47,661 --> 01:08:48,726
and he never returns.
1494
01:08:50,598 --> 01:08:52,796
It was believed
that he might have been killed
1495
01:08:52,831 --> 01:08:54,303
by the Native Americans
1496
01:08:54,338 --> 01:08:55,898
who still claim
this land as their own.
1497
01:08:55,933 --> 01:08:57,834
But nobody
really knows for certain.
1498
01:08:57,869 --> 01:08:59,572
But nonetheless,
he never returns.
1499
01:08:59,607 --> 01:09:02,410
And so Agnes is now
the matriarch of the family
1500
01:09:02,445 --> 01:09:04,775
and she and the rest
for grown children
1501
01:09:04,810 --> 01:09:06,777
push on
and complete the journey.
1502
01:09:07,450 --> 01:09:08,845
And they settle here.
1503
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,484
And since they settle,
first settlers,
1504
01:09:10,519 --> 01:09:12,321
it becomes known
as Steen's Creek.
1505
01:09:12,653 --> 01:09:15,390
Uh, by the turn
of the 20th century,
1506
01:09:15,425 --> 01:09:17,590
this area has been known
as Steen Creek for a while.
1507
01:09:18,263 --> 01:09:20,461
And there's
a new rail line coming through.
1508
01:09:21,431 --> 01:09:22,925
They're going
to build a railroad track
1509
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,499
from the Gulf Coast up into
the capital city of Jackson,
1510
01:09:25,534 --> 01:09:26,830
a few miles
north of here.
1511
01:09:26,865 --> 01:09:28,964
Uh, one gentleman,
Mr. Ellis,
1512
01:09:28,999 --> 01:09:31,571
will donate
the land for the depot
1513
01:09:31,606 --> 01:09:32,539
on one condition.
1514
01:09:32,574 --> 01:09:35,245
He wants that depot
named after his wife.
1515
01:09:35,775 --> 01:09:38,413
Willing to take the free land,
whatever they can,
1516
01:09:38,448 --> 01:09:41,317
the depot is actually named
Florence Depot
1517
01:09:41,352 --> 01:09:43,319
rather than Steen's Creek.
1518
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:47,983
Most of American
history and again,
1519
01:09:48,018 --> 01:09:49,457
the history
of the world is made--
1520
01:09:49,492 --> 01:09:50,788
It's been a man's world.
1521
01:09:51,362 --> 01:09:53,329
The men take the credit
and are the kings.
1522
01:09:53,364 --> 01:09:55,023
They're the soldiers,
they're the ones that go off
1523
01:09:55,058 --> 01:09:57,564
and everybody
raves about them.
1524
01:09:57,599 --> 01:10:00,468
But back there in--
Behind them in the shadows
1525
01:10:00,503 --> 01:10:01,997
have always been the women
1526
01:10:02,032 --> 01:10:04,538
making sure
the farm is still running,
1527
01:10:04,573 --> 01:10:07,541
making sure there's food
still heading out to the front,
1528
01:10:07,576 --> 01:10:10,412
making sure the hard
decisions are being made.
1529
01:10:10,876 --> 01:10:13,679
The hand that rocks
the cradle rules the world.
1530
01:10:16,321 --> 01:10:18,783
And now it's 1905.
1531
01:10:19,324 --> 01:10:20,488
We're going
to build a city.
1532
01:10:20,523 --> 01:10:21,753
What are we going to call it?
1533
01:10:21,788 --> 01:10:24,327
And I suspect,
I don't know for certain,
1534
01:10:24,362 --> 01:10:25,889
but I suspect
by this time a lot of people
1535
01:10:25,924 --> 01:10:27,561
had started referring to it
1536
01:10:27,596 --> 01:10:29,497
by the name of the Depot,
Florence.
1537
01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,697
And the City
of Florence was born.
1538
01:10:31,732 --> 01:10:35,030
Founded by a woman
and named for a woman.
1539
01:10:35,065 --> 01:10:40,442
♪
1540
01:10:42,809 --> 01:10:45,040
[Steve] Mary Alice? Hi.
1541
01:10:45,075 --> 01:10:47,075
[both laughing]
1542
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:49,418
I, uh-- I have
these for you.
1543
01:10:49,849 --> 01:10:52,520
Um, thank you for making time
1544
01:10:52,555 --> 01:10:54,588
to meet with us again.
1545
01:10:54,623 --> 01:10:56,656
We've had
really incredible researchers
1546
01:10:56,691 --> 01:10:58,790
do a deep dive
with some of the Steen history.
1547
01:10:58,825 --> 01:11:01,859
Florence husband, C Ellis...
1548
01:11:01,894 --> 01:11:04,631
[John] And, um, they found
some old photographs.
1549
01:11:04,666 --> 01:11:07,535
[Mary Alice] Gave the land
to the railroad company.
1550
01:11:07,570 --> 01:11:11,033
The Steen family is a very--
Well, the Steen name
1551
01:11:11,068 --> 01:11:14,003
is a very,
very well known name
1552
01:11:14,038 --> 01:11:15,444
in the Florence area.
1553
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,874
In fact,
there's a lot of streets named
1554
01:11:16,909 --> 01:11:18,645
Steen this, Steen that,
1555
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:19,976
Steen Creek.
1556
01:11:20,011 --> 01:11:23,386
[Steve] Do you think Mr. Steen
1557
01:11:23,421 --> 01:11:25,586
or Mrs. Steen
1558
01:11:25,621 --> 01:11:28,391
has anything to do
with the haunting here?
1559
01:11:29,955 --> 01:11:33,825
I don't know if the Steens
have anything to do
1560
01:11:33,860 --> 01:11:35,431
with the haunting here.
1561
01:11:35,466 --> 01:11:38,830
We have had
some EVP's with Henry.
1562
01:11:38,865 --> 01:11:41,932
Henry Steen is somebody
that I've called out,
1563
01:11:41,967 --> 01:11:43,406
uh, to several times.
1564
01:11:43,441 --> 01:11:45,969
We've captured
an EVP voice recording
1565
01:11:46,004 --> 01:11:48,103
that did say Henry,
obviously.
1566
01:11:48,138 --> 01:11:51,645
And Henry Steen
is one Steen families.
1567
01:11:52,483 --> 01:11:54,417
[Brad] Can you tell us
what your name is?
1568
01:11:55,486 --> 01:11:56,848
[male voice] Henry.
1569
01:11:57,521 --> 01:11:59,389
You know,
there is definitely a--
1570
01:11:59,424 --> 01:12:02,590
a pattern of the male,
whether it's the apparition,
1571
01:12:02,625 --> 01:12:03,888
whether it's the voice.
1572
01:12:03,923 --> 01:12:08,959
♪
1573
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,572
Hearing Henry
kind of validates
1574
01:12:17,607 --> 01:12:19,772
and kind of puts
things in perspective.
1575
01:12:20,203 --> 01:12:22,577
So that's possible.
1576
01:12:22,975 --> 01:12:25,745
There is a lot of Henrys
in the world, though.
1577
01:12:26,209 --> 01:12:28,484
[birds tweeting]
1578
01:12:29,718 --> 01:12:31,388
[dog barks]
1579
01:12:38,463 --> 01:12:40,463
[beeping]
1580
01:12:42,533 --> 01:12:43,763
That's interesting.
1581
01:12:44,667 --> 01:12:47,437
It's not metal
but it's fabric of some kind.
1582
01:12:48,671 --> 01:12:49,571
So...
1583
01:12:50,674 --> 01:12:53,641
I found this while the detector
picked up the metal.
1584
01:12:53,676 --> 01:12:55,709
What's interesting
even more to me,
1585
01:12:55,744 --> 01:12:57,513
this looks like
it's some kind of fabric.
1586
01:12:57,548 --> 01:13:00,780
[determined music]
1587
01:13:00,815 --> 01:13:03,486
It's really kind--
It's really sensitive.
1588
01:13:03,521 --> 01:13:06,082
Oh. Oh, yeah.
1589
01:13:06,117 --> 01:13:07,622
[Alice] It's hard to tell.
1590
01:13:07,657 --> 01:13:11,087
[speaking over each other]
1591
01:13:11,122 --> 01:13:12,594
[Brad] Be very gentle.
1592
01:13:15,126 --> 01:13:18,028
[motor whirring]
1593
01:13:24,069 --> 01:13:26,443
[John] Oh! Oh!
1594
01:13:27,710 --> 01:13:30,579
But what's intriguing about,
about what this object is
1595
01:13:30,614 --> 01:13:32,779
is the fact
that it was so deep.
1596
01:13:32,814 --> 01:13:35,111
[Alice] Well,
does it feel like [indistinct]?
1597
01:13:36,015 --> 01:13:37,883
Oh, it's even got a--
Oh, my goodness. What's it say?
1598
01:13:37,918 --> 01:13:39,247
[Brad] Oh, it's got
something fancy on it.
1599
01:13:39,282 --> 01:13:40,721
Oh, it's got letters on it.
1600
01:13:41,152 --> 01:13:42,624
[Alice]
Because it is [indistinct].
1601
01:13:47,125 --> 01:13:48,597
Right there underneath.
1602
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,226
[beeping]
1603
01:13:51,261 --> 01:13:52,568
There you go, Sabrina.
1604
01:13:52,603 --> 01:13:55,637
[beeping continues]
1605
01:14:01,909 --> 01:14:04,140
[Sabrina] It's almost
like a fake.
1606
01:14:04,175 --> 01:14:06,208
[beeping]
1607
01:14:06,243 --> 01:14:11,884
♪
1608
01:14:25,031 --> 01:14:26,063
[Brad] That's weird.
1609
01:14:26,901 --> 01:14:28,901
-It's definitely metal.
-[Sabrina] Yeah.
1610
01:14:31,235 --> 01:14:32,641
[Brad clears throat]
1611
01:14:34,172 --> 01:14:35,875
Oh, boy.
Is that jewelry?
1612
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:39,043
[Steve] I think so,
it might be a ring.
1613
01:14:42,180 --> 01:14:43,718
[beeping]
1614
01:14:45,183 --> 01:14:46,589
68.
1615
01:14:47,152 --> 01:14:49,185
Silver usually
rings around 70.
1616
01:14:49,220 --> 01:14:50,659
I'm not saying
it's silver, but--
1617
01:14:50,694 --> 01:14:52,925
[indistinct talking]
1618
01:14:57,668 --> 01:14:58,865
[John] It's an odd shape.
1619
01:15:04,367 --> 01:15:06,675
[Steve] We didn't find
any evidence of bodies
1620
01:15:06,710 --> 01:15:08,644
in the ground
or old structures.
1621
01:15:08,679 --> 01:15:11,207
So, that makes sense
that at one time
1622
01:15:11,242 --> 01:15:13,176
there were
graves back there
1623
01:15:13,211 --> 01:15:15,178
but the bodies
have been removed.
1624
01:15:15,213 --> 01:15:16,916
And that's
what the ERI survey said,
1625
01:15:16,951 --> 01:15:19,589
that there are
unmarked graves there
1626
01:15:19,624 --> 01:15:22,559
but the bodies
just aren't there anymore.
1627
01:15:23,023 --> 01:15:24,957
[night din]
1628
01:15:24,992 --> 01:15:29,665
♪
1629
01:15:31,361 --> 01:15:34,065
[Elizabeth] I-- I set up some
environmental sensors for us.
1630
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,231
[Dustin] Uh-huh.
1631
01:15:36,367 --> 01:15:38,938
And I'm going to be monitoring
temperature, pressure.
1632
01:15:38,973 --> 01:15:41,644
And also, I--
I do have a magnetic coil
1633
01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:43,778
that I've wired up
to an amplifier,
1634
01:15:43,813 --> 01:15:46,242
and I just
put it on the walking stick.
1635
01:15:46,277 --> 01:15:47,584
I felt like there was...
1636
01:15:48,787 --> 01:15:50,785
Atmospheric data has always
been really important to me
1637
01:15:50,820 --> 01:15:52,215
on any investigation I do
1638
01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:54,217
because I have
found correlations
1639
01:15:54,252 --> 01:15:56,285
between a change
in the environment
1640
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,991
with paranormal
activity happening.
1641
01:15:59,026 --> 01:16:00,696
I'm not saying that
that's a ghost.
1642
01:16:00,731 --> 01:16:03,666
But what I am saying
is that there are weird,
1643
01:16:03,701 --> 01:16:05,965
interesting things
that sometimes take place
1644
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,868
when you see
a dip in the data.
1645
01:16:07,903 --> 01:16:10,068
And I always find
that to be fascinating.
1646
01:16:12,303 --> 01:16:14,138
-Nice.
-Ta-da.
1647
01:16:14,173 --> 01:16:15,744
We look great.
1648
01:16:16,142 --> 01:16:17,405
Oh, my gosh.
1649
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:19,143
-[Elizabeth] I look crazed.
-[Dustin laughs]
1650
01:16:20,784 --> 01:16:22,685
All right,
so I brought a Theremin,
1651
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,688
um, which is
an old school instrument.
1652
01:16:25,723 --> 01:16:27,250
So, if we could
wire the door.
1653
01:16:27,285 --> 01:16:29,989
But we're going to extend
the range of it, right?
1654
01:16:30,024 --> 01:16:31,727
[Elizabeth] Yeah,
so I think by, like,
1655
01:16:31,762 --> 01:16:33,355
extending the antenna out.
1656
01:16:33,390 --> 01:16:34,994
-[Dustin] Uh-huh.
-And since the--
1657
01:16:35,029 --> 01:16:37,359
We both
when we first arrived here,
1658
01:16:37,394 --> 01:16:38,998
we were drawn
to this door frame.
1659
01:16:39,033 --> 01:16:40,670
-[Dustin] Yeah.
-So I think that
1660
01:16:40,705 --> 01:16:42,331
by creating a threshold.
1661
01:16:42,366 --> 01:16:45,433
So, if any, like,
subtle energy comes in,
1662
01:16:45,468 --> 01:16:47,072
the hope is that
it sets off the Theremin.
1663
01:16:47,107 --> 01:16:49,008
[Dustin] Right.
That would be great.
1664
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,782
So, we're just
wrapping the copper wire
1665
01:16:53,817 --> 01:16:56,444
around the, uh, pitch antenna
of the Theremin, here.
1666
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,886
So, this would be
normally how you control
1667
01:16:58,921 --> 01:17:01,383
the, uh-- the pitch sound
by moving your hand closer.
1668
01:17:01,418 --> 01:17:02,857
Completely experimental.
1669
01:17:02,892 --> 01:17:04,287
Not sure
if it's going to work.
1670
01:17:04,322 --> 01:17:07,026
But if it does, that would be
really interesting.
1671
01:17:11,769 --> 01:17:14,198
[Dustin] It's just good
to continue to try new things.
1672
01:17:16,466 --> 01:17:17,872
[Elizabeth] So...
1673
01:17:20,206 --> 01:17:21,304
[quietly] Now we'll see.
1674
01:17:21,944 --> 01:17:23,779
-[Elizabeth gasps]
-Yeah?
1675
01:17:23,814 --> 01:17:25,341
So now it's working
because normally
1676
01:17:25,376 --> 01:17:27,145
you have to be
touching that.
1677
01:17:28,115 --> 01:17:29,180
Go, go in the door.
1678
01:17:30,755 --> 01:17:32,117
-[Elizabeth] Oh.
-[Dustin] Yeah.
1679
01:17:32,152 --> 01:17:33,822
That time it worked.
Yeah. That time it worked.
1680
01:17:33,857 --> 01:17:35,153
-[Elizabeth] That worked.
-[Dustin] So it is--
1681
01:17:35,188 --> 01:17:36,385
It's building up
and getting the whole thing.
1682
01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:37,925
-Yeah.
-[Dustin] Yeah--
1683
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,223
-Oh, see! Can you hear it?
-[Dustin] Yup.
1684
01:17:39,258 --> 01:17:40,730
-[gasps]
-That's a lot of fun.
1685
01:17:40,765 --> 01:17:42,127
[Elizabeth]
Oh, that's so fun.
1686
01:17:43,493 --> 01:17:45,031
I love science.
1687
01:17:45,066 --> 01:17:46,736
[both laughing]
1688
01:17:46,771 --> 01:17:48,166
I like it.
That's great.
1689
01:17:48,971 --> 01:17:50,432
The science community
isn't open
1690
01:17:50,467 --> 01:17:52,500
to the idea
of the paranormal.
1691
01:17:52,535 --> 01:17:55,811
And unfortunately,
the paranormal community
1692
01:17:55,846 --> 01:17:58,506
isn't viewed as--
1693
01:17:58,541 --> 01:18:00,816
It's not taken seriously.
Like, that's a problem.
1694
01:18:00,851 --> 01:18:02,917
We're just
not taken seriously.
1695
01:18:04,118 --> 01:18:05,887
I've always thought
it was interesting
1696
01:18:05,922 --> 01:18:09,154
that for some reason
people think science
1697
01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:12,223
and spirituality
have to butt heads.
1698
01:18:12,797 --> 01:18:14,863
You know, the fact
that research scientists
1699
01:18:14,898 --> 01:18:16,964
would be afraid to speak
to somebody about something
1700
01:18:16,999 --> 01:18:19,802
of a spiritual nature
or paranormal nature,
1701
01:18:19,837 --> 01:18:21,463
I think shows that divide.
1702
01:18:21,498 --> 01:18:23,938
And that divide is--
is a problem.
1703
01:18:23,973 --> 01:18:25,973
I would love to get
to a place where the field's
1704
01:18:26,008 --> 01:18:28,536
taken more seriously,
because not only do I think
1705
01:18:28,571 --> 01:18:30,109
the paranormal community
is missing out
1706
01:18:30,144 --> 01:18:31,539
but I also feel
like the science community
1707
01:18:31,574 --> 01:18:32,980
is missing out.
1708
01:18:33,015 --> 01:18:34,509
[Dustin]
Do the initial run in here.
1709
01:18:34,544 --> 01:18:36,852
Yeah, I think yesterday-- What?
1710
01:18:37,514 --> 01:18:38,854
[Dustin]
I got too close to it.
1711
01:18:38,889 --> 01:18:40,251
-[Elizabeth] Okay.
-[Dustin laughs]
1712
01:18:40,286 --> 01:18:42,858
But this is interesting
because if something--
1713
01:18:42,893 --> 01:18:44,860
This doorway
seems to be an active spot
1714
01:18:44,895 --> 01:18:46,422
so if something decides
to walk through here,
1715
01:18:46,457 --> 01:18:48,160
we should be
able to hear it.
1716
01:18:49,196 --> 01:18:50,525
So we're going
to do an experiment.
1717
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,131
[Dustin] All right.
Very good.
1718
01:18:52,166 --> 01:18:54,265
So first we're going
to do an initial session.
1719
01:18:55,103 --> 01:18:56,300
[rapid beeping]
1720
01:18:56,335 --> 01:18:59,138
Everything's beeping.
Did you touch the door?
1721
01:18:59,173 --> 01:19:00,205
[Elizabeth] No.
1722
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:05,375
♪
1723
01:19:05,410 --> 01:19:07,916
[Dustin] I have to keep an ear
out for both these things.
1724
01:19:09,513 --> 01:19:12,954
[rapid rattling]
1725
01:19:14,485 --> 01:19:17,024
I'm just going
to baseline this meter.
1726
01:19:17,059 --> 01:19:18,223
Uh-huh.
1727
01:19:19,193 --> 01:19:21,864
Hello.
This is Elizabeth and Dustin.
1728
01:19:22,592 --> 01:19:24,427
If you're able
to communicate with us
1729
01:19:24,462 --> 01:19:26,231
or maybe
let us hear your voice.
1730
01:19:26,629 --> 01:19:28,904
Try to speak
into this device here.
1731
01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:31,269
We may be
able to hear you.
1732
01:19:31,304 --> 01:19:36,340
♪
1733
01:19:43,217 --> 01:19:45,987
Dustin to, uh,
the team out in the tech tent.
1734
01:19:46,517 --> 01:19:47,923
Can you see
if anybody is walking
1735
01:19:47,958 --> 01:19:50,288
in the DVR cameras downstairs?
1736
01:19:51,962 --> 01:19:53,995
-[Brad] Nobody's walking.
-[radio static]
1737
01:19:54,492 --> 01:19:57,933
Okay, so... timestamp.
1738
01:20:00,564 --> 01:20:03,235
[distant muffled thumping]
1739
01:20:04,370 --> 01:20:05,501
You hear that?
1740
01:20:05,536 --> 01:20:10,946
[night din]
1741
01:20:16,679 --> 01:20:20,120
Can you tell us
what road the house is on?
1742
01:20:22,487 --> 01:20:24,355
Is there a name
you like to go by?
1743
01:20:27,096 --> 01:20:29,899
What's the object
on the stairs that you move?
1744
01:20:35,665 --> 01:20:38,072
-[indistinct] out here.
-[Dustin] All right.
1745
01:20:40,208 --> 01:20:42,307
[whirring]
1746
01:20:43,673 --> 01:20:45,640
Pardon me, young lady.
1747
01:20:45,675 --> 01:20:46,982
[Elizabeth over recorder]
Is there a name
1748
01:20:47,017 --> 01:20:48,214
you like to go by?
1749
01:20:50,152 --> 01:20:51,679
[Dustin on recorder] What's
the object on the stairs
1750
01:20:51,714 --> 01:20:52,988
that you move?
1751
01:20:53,023 --> 01:20:54,418
[faint voice]
1752
01:20:54,959 --> 01:20:57,520
-Oh! Did you hear that?
-[Elizabeth] I did!
1753
01:20:57,555 --> 01:20:59,258
[Dustin] Oh, that's awesome!
1754
01:20:59,293 --> 01:21:01,260
Wow.
1755
01:21:01,295 --> 01:21:03,229
[Dustin on recorder] What's
the object on the stairs
1756
01:21:03,264 --> 01:21:03,963
that you move?
1757
01:21:03,998 --> 01:21:05,396
[voice faintly] Baseball.
1758
01:21:05,431 --> 01:21:07,431
Oh! That's so good.
1759
01:21:08,269 --> 01:21:10,269
I think
he says "Baseball".
1760
01:21:10,304 --> 01:21:12,106
[Elizabeth over speaker]
Yeah, right?
1761
01:21:12,504 --> 01:21:14,141
Crazy that
baseball was said.
1762
01:21:14,176 --> 01:21:15,670
[Dustin] Right. For sure.
1763
01:21:15,705 --> 01:21:18,475
How much is that
collectively us
1764
01:21:18,510 --> 01:21:19,575
-knowing?
-[Dustin] Right.
1765
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:23,183
Maybe after
we charge it up,
1766
01:21:23,218 --> 01:21:25,020
we ask those
questions again.
1767
01:21:25,055 --> 01:21:26,681
-The same exact ones.
-[Dustin] Yeah.
1768
01:21:26,716 --> 01:21:28,221
[Elizabeth] And see
if there's a change.
1769
01:21:28,256 --> 01:21:29,651
And then maybe we should
throw in another question
1770
01:21:29,686 --> 01:21:31,323
that we don't know
the answer to.
1771
01:21:31,721 --> 01:21:34,997
[Elizabeth]
I did bring an ion motor
1772
01:21:35,032 --> 01:21:36,559
that actually
creates and generates
1773
01:21:36,594 --> 01:21:38,132
its own
positive force field.
1774
01:21:38,167 --> 01:21:40,200
But it's a--
it's a pretty serious one.
1775
01:21:41,698 --> 01:21:43,500
Could be
potentially dangerous.
1776
01:21:43,535 --> 01:21:45,106
[laughs] I don't know,
1777
01:21:45,141 --> 01:21:46,668
but I want to change
the environment.
1778
01:21:46,703 --> 01:21:48,208
I want to see
what it's like before.
1779
01:21:48,243 --> 01:21:50,408
And I want to see
if you induce anything else
1780
01:21:50,443 --> 01:21:53,642
in the environment,
if that also creates a change.
1781
01:21:53,677 --> 01:21:56,348
If activity increases.
1782
01:21:57,318 --> 01:21:58,251
I can smell it.
1783
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,994
Can you tell me
what street this house is on?
1784
01:22:08,395 --> 01:22:10,626
Can you tell us the name
of the woman that lives here?
1785
01:22:10,661 --> 01:22:12,133
The woman
that built this house?
1786
01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:16,731
[Elizabeth] Can you
tell us what's going on
1787
01:22:16,766 --> 01:22:18,975
with the lights
inside this house?
1788
01:22:21,507 --> 01:22:24,376
[Dustin] What is the object
on the stairs that you move?
1789
01:22:26,776 --> 01:22:28,776
Two gentlemen
that have investigated here
1790
01:22:28,811 --> 01:22:31,350
for 12, 13, 14 years.
1791
01:22:32,221 --> 01:22:33,990
Do you know
either of their names?
1792
01:22:38,260 --> 01:22:40,491
[Elizabeth over recorder]
Can you tell me what street
1793
01:22:40,526 --> 01:22:41,591
this house is on?
1794
01:22:41,626 --> 01:22:45,100
[faint crackling]
1795
01:22:45,135 --> 01:22:46,629
[Dustin over recorder]
Could you tell us the name--
1796
01:22:46,664 --> 01:22:48,565
I think
he says "White Road."
1797
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,765
[Elizabeth over recorder]
Can you tell me what street
1798
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,074
this house is on?
1799
01:22:52,109 --> 01:22:54,142
[faint crackling]
1800
01:22:54,177 --> 01:22:55,374
[distorted voice]
1801
01:22:55,409 --> 01:22:57,508
Yeah.
It says, "White Road."
1802
01:22:57,543 --> 01:22:58,773
[Elizabeth over recorder]
...what street
1803
01:22:58,808 --> 01:23:00,049
this house is on?
1804
01:23:00,084 --> 01:23:02,381
[faint cracking]
1805
01:23:02,416 --> 01:23:03,646
-[voice] White Road.
-[Dustin exhales]
1806
01:23:03,681 --> 01:23:04,779
[Dustin] ...the name
1807
01:23:04,814 --> 01:23:06,286
of the woman that lives here?
1808
01:23:06,321 --> 01:23:07,683
-The woman that built house?
-What?
1809
01:23:07,718 --> 01:23:09,157
[Dustin] Can you tell us
the name of the
1810
01:23:09,192 --> 01:23:10,323
woman that lives here?
1811
01:23:10,358 --> 01:23:11,724
The woman
that built this house?
1812
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,425
[Elizabeth over recorder] Can
you tell us what's going on--
1813
01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:14,393
Yikes.
1814
01:23:14,428 --> 01:23:15,790
[Dustin over recorder]
What is the object
1815
01:23:15,825 --> 01:23:17,462
on the stairs that you move?
1816
01:23:17,497 --> 01:23:18,562
[faint voice]
1817
01:23:19,301 --> 01:23:20,597
He just said,
"Ball" that time, yeah.
1818
01:23:20,632 --> 01:23:22,203
He just said, "Ball."
1819
01:23:22,238 --> 01:23:23,798
[Dustin over recorder]
Two gentlemen that have
1820
01:23:23,833 --> 01:23:26,504
investigated here
for 12, 13, 14 years.
1821
01:23:26,539 --> 01:23:28,176
Do you know
either of their names?
1822
01:23:28,871 --> 01:23:30,145
[faint voice]
1823
01:23:30,180 --> 01:23:31,443
Did he say, "Jack?"
1824
01:23:32,314 --> 01:23:33,577
[Elizabeth]
So now we're going to do
1825
01:23:33,612 --> 01:23:35,117
something a little different
1826
01:23:35,152 --> 01:23:38,549
and we're going to
show you some cards.
1827
01:23:38,584 --> 01:23:40,155
Here is the first card.
1828
01:23:40,190 --> 01:23:41,486
Can you tell us
what you see?
1829
01:23:41,521 --> 01:23:44,192
[eerie music]
1830
01:23:44,227 --> 01:23:46,425
We're going to show you
the second card.
1831
01:23:47,131 --> 01:23:48,526
Tell us what you see.
1832
01:23:51,135 --> 01:23:54,070
Is it a number
or is it a face card?
1833
01:23:57,207 --> 01:23:58,602
Here's the third card.
1834
01:24:01,607 --> 01:24:02,639
What color is it?
1835
01:24:04,874 --> 01:24:06,280
What number?
1836
01:24:09,714 --> 01:24:11,351
[Dustin]
Putting down card three.
1837
01:24:13,751 --> 01:24:16,092
I'm going to show you
card four, now.
1838
01:24:18,492 --> 01:24:21,493
Can you tell me
what card Dustin is holding?
1839
01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:29,666
[Dustin]
Putting down card four.
1840
01:24:29,701 --> 01:24:31,371
[Elizabeth over recorder]
Here is the first card.
1841
01:24:31,406 --> 01:24:32,702
Can you tell us
what you see?
1842
01:24:32,737 --> 01:24:35,408
[faint crackling]
1843
01:24:35,443 --> 01:24:37,311
We're going to show you
the second card.
1844
01:24:37,346 --> 01:24:38,675
Tell us what you see.
1845
01:24:39,777 --> 01:24:41,645
[Dustin]
I think he says it's four.
1846
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,746
[Elizabeth over recorder]
What color is it?
1847
01:24:43,781 --> 01:24:45,550
-What number?
-[faint voice]
1848
01:24:45,585 --> 01:24:46,848
[both] Six.
1849
01:24:46,883 --> 01:24:49,224
-It literally said, "Six."
-It's crazy.
1850
01:24:49,259 --> 01:24:50,621
[Elizabeth over recorder]
I'm going to show you
1851
01:24:50,656 --> 01:24:52,227
card four, now.
1852
01:24:52,262 --> 01:24:54,229
Can you tell me
what card Dustin is holding?
1853
01:24:54,264 --> 01:24:55,527
[faint voice]
1854
01:24:55,925 --> 01:24:57,496
[Dustin] Red ten?
1855
01:24:58,796 --> 01:25:01,236
[Elizabeth] But we got
to play this again because--
1856
01:25:01,271 --> 01:25:03,535
-[Dustin] This is ridiculous.
-[Elizabeth] Bizarre.
1857
01:25:04,868 --> 01:25:07,440
I've never had
1858
01:25:07,475 --> 01:25:09,178
a communication response like,
1859
01:25:09,213 --> 01:25:10,674
with this
blind study thing
1860
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:12,346
that seemed
to go that well.
1861
01:25:12,381 --> 01:25:14,249
No, but let's
back off for a second
1862
01:25:14,284 --> 01:25:15,646
because
it wasn't just that.
1863
01:25:15,681 --> 01:25:17,285
Like at the end,
1864
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,254
we re-asked
the same questions
1865
01:25:19,289 --> 01:25:21,619
-and we got clearer responses.
-Clearer answers.
1866
01:25:21,654 --> 01:25:22,686
Oh, crap.
1867
01:25:26,329 --> 01:25:28,164
[Dustin] Yeah.
White Road. Alice.
1868
01:25:28,496 --> 01:25:30,265
Said something
about their names.
1869
01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:31,596
I couldn't pick it up.
I thought it said, "Jack."
1870
01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:33,565
[Brad] Jack.
1871
01:25:36,636 --> 01:25:38,471
[John] Heard, "White Road."
I heard, "Alice."
1872
01:25:38,506 --> 01:25:39,934
-[Alice] Oh, they did?
-I heard white--
1873
01:25:39,969 --> 01:25:41,606
They got "White Road,"
they got, "Alice."
1874
01:25:41,641 --> 01:25:43,509
White Road, damn.
That's where I live.
1875
01:25:43,544 --> 01:25:45,280
I mean, damn,
that's getting personal.
1876
01:25:46,580 --> 01:25:48,580
[Elizabeth over recorder]
Here's the third card.
1877
01:25:48,615 --> 01:25:50,384
What color is it?
1878
01:25:50,419 --> 01:25:51,946
-What number?
-[faint voice]
1879
01:25:51,981 --> 01:25:54,520
[Elizabeth] Six.
That you hear very clearly.
1880
01:25:54,555 --> 01:25:57,325
-[Dustin] Six, six.
-[Alice] Did he say, "Six?"
1881
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,953
Getting direct
responses to the card--
1882
01:25:58,988 --> 01:26:00,021
[Alice] [indistinct].
1883
01:26:01,595 --> 01:26:03,529
[Elizabeth over recorder]
Here's the third card.
1884
01:26:03,564 --> 01:26:05,432
-What color is it?
-[faint voice]
1885
01:26:05,467 --> 01:26:06,895
-[Elizabeth] What number?
-[both] Red six.
1886
01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:08,600
[Elizabeth] Six.
1887
01:26:08,635 --> 01:26:09,964
[Elizabeth over recorder]
I'm going to show you
1888
01:26:09,999 --> 01:26:11,306
card four now.
1889
01:26:11,341 --> 01:26:12,637
-That's so wild.
-This is insane.
1890
01:26:12,672 --> 01:26:14,309
[Elizabeth]
Can you tell me what card
1891
01:26:14,344 --> 01:26:15,409
-Dustin is holding?
-[faint voice]
1892
01:26:15,444 --> 01:26:16,575
Red ten.
1893
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:18,445
But you don't really
get the impact of it
1894
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,481
because it's like-- you know,
there's a conscious being,
1895
01:26:21,516 --> 01:26:25,221
invisible-- invisible,
conscious being in your room.
1896
01:26:25,652 --> 01:26:27,322
I mean, really,
that's a little unnerving.
1897
01:26:27,357 --> 01:26:28,719
I mean, really,
you just go take a shower.
1898
01:26:28,754 --> 01:26:30,556
You think, "Who is
watching me take a shower?"
1899
01:26:30,591 --> 01:26:32,426
I mean, really, you do,
because something's there.
1900
01:26:32,461 --> 01:26:34,230
Some-- something's there.
1901
01:26:36,795 --> 01:26:37,959
Last time we got baseball,
1902
01:26:37,994 --> 01:26:39,433
which was great by itself.
1903
01:26:39,468 --> 01:26:40,929
-[Elizabeth] Right.
-But now it was
1904
01:26:40,964 --> 01:26:42,502
every question pretty much
had an answer, every card--
1905
01:26:42,537 --> 01:26:43,932
Even if we couldn't
make it out.
1906
01:26:43,967 --> 01:26:45,373
Yeah.
1907
01:26:45,408 --> 01:26:47,408
-The cards are wild, though.
-Yeah.
1908
01:26:47,443 --> 01:26:49,344
[Dustin] Yeah, like, it just--
it just blows my mind.
1909
01:26:49,379 --> 01:26:52,006
Of all the years doing this,
like I've never had--
1910
01:26:52,041 --> 01:26:53,975
I mean,
you're lucky if you get an EVP.
1911
01:26:54,010 --> 01:26:56,483
[laughs]
It's still pretty good.
1912
01:26:56,947 --> 01:26:59,915
So much more
could be found out,
1913
01:26:59,950 --> 01:27:01,785
explored,
experimented with.
1914
01:27:01,820 --> 01:27:04,887
You know, if we were
just open to the idea
1915
01:27:04,922 --> 01:27:07,428
of incorporating
science into the mix.
1916
01:27:07,463 --> 01:27:09,793
I think one of the nice things
about the Mississippi house
1917
01:27:09,828 --> 01:27:12,664
of Alice's house is
it allows for that to happen.
1918
01:27:13,095 --> 01:27:15,403
Because it's been
documented long enough
1919
01:27:15,438 --> 01:27:18,307
where it's not just
some crazy story.
1920
01:27:18,342 --> 01:27:20,507
I think that's the--
the nice thing about it.
1921
01:27:21,708 --> 01:27:23,741
[night din]
1922
01:27:25,580 --> 01:27:26,678
[knocking]
1923
01:27:29,551 --> 01:27:30,616
Hello.
1924
01:27:30,915 --> 01:27:32,387
[Laurie]
My name's Laurie McDonald.
1925
01:27:32,422 --> 01:27:34,389
I'm a certified
clinical hypnotherapist
1926
01:27:34,424 --> 01:27:37,953
at True You Hypnotherapy
in Sacramento, California.
1927
01:27:38,692 --> 01:27:41,462
So, you tell me
where you want me.
1928
01:27:41,497 --> 01:27:44,058
[Laurie] So my purpose
in coming here
1929
01:27:44,093 --> 01:27:46,863
is to facilitate a process
1930
01:27:46,898 --> 01:27:48,931
that will allow Alice
1931
01:27:48,966 --> 01:27:50,669
to feel that sense of ease
1932
01:27:50,704 --> 01:27:54,541
and to be able to take
possession of her own home.
1933
01:27:54,576 --> 01:27:59,579
♪
1934
01:28:01,451 --> 01:28:02,912
We'll begin
1935
01:28:02,947 --> 01:28:04,782
the way I always begin
1936
01:28:04,817 --> 01:28:07,554
by just having you
take some long, deep
1937
01:28:07,589 --> 01:28:09,985
rhythmic breaths
in through the nose
1938
01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:11,591
and out through the mouth.
1939
01:28:12,858 --> 01:28:14,121
And in a moment,
1940
01:28:14,156 --> 01:28:15,859
I'm going
to count backwards.
1941
01:28:16,697 --> 01:28:19,962
Ten, seven.
Twice as deep now.
1942
01:28:19,997 --> 01:28:23,471
On five, on three...
1943
01:28:24,606 --> 01:28:25,671
two...
1944
01:28:26,168 --> 01:28:27,607
and one.
1945
01:28:28,742 --> 01:28:30,709
We're going to go
back to a time
1946
01:28:30,744 --> 01:28:32,480
when you awoke
1947
01:28:32,515 --> 01:28:35,714
and saw
a very specific light.
1948
01:28:35,749 --> 01:28:36,946
See that now.
1949
01:28:38,488 --> 01:28:40,983
It-- it--
it came on with a--
1950
01:28:41,018 --> 01:28:43,557
With a flash
in an instant.
1951
01:28:44,021 --> 01:28:47,528
I just,
totally unexpected.
1952
01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:51,158
Everything else
in the room was black.
1953
01:28:51,193 --> 01:28:53,963
Total black.
Very black.
1954
01:28:55,769 --> 01:28:58,000
What if it turns toward me?
What happens?
1955
01:28:58,035 --> 01:28:59,804
I mean, it-- it--
1956
01:29:00,136 --> 01:29:01,674
And what is its purpose?
1957
01:29:04,107 --> 01:29:06,481
[stuttering]
1958
01:29:06,516 --> 01:29:08,747
That-- I just
happened to be there.
1959
01:29:08,782 --> 01:29:11,684
I don't think it--
its intent was to appear to me.
1960
01:29:11,719 --> 01:29:14,786
Do you sense
in this light...
1961
01:29:15,525 --> 01:29:16,887
-intelligence?
-[Alice] Uh-huh.
1962
01:29:18,220 --> 01:29:20,154
Not that
the light's conscious
1963
01:29:20,189 --> 01:29:21,628
but that the...
1964
01:29:22,664 --> 01:29:24,466
governing
of the light is.
1965
01:29:24,501 --> 01:29:25,995
So, the light's
coming from a source?
1966
01:29:26,030 --> 01:29:27,194
Yeah.
1967
01:29:27,229 --> 01:29:30,901
Just, uh--
just intelligence, like--
1968
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,673
like intelligent, um...
1969
01:29:36,007 --> 01:29:38,513
beings, maybe a group.
1970
01:29:39,648 --> 01:29:43,584
Or something they're--
they're intently interested in.
1971
01:29:45,951 --> 01:29:47,753
Sense into the light
1972
01:29:47,788 --> 01:29:50,085
and try to sense
1973
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,922
their intent.
1974
01:29:51,957 --> 01:29:56,993
♪
1975
01:30:02,770 --> 01:30:04,066
[Alice]
Whatever they were doing,
1976
01:30:04,101 --> 01:30:06,805
it seemed very important.
1977
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,808
It's like they were
all gathered around.
1978
01:30:13,176 --> 01:30:16,782
observing something
beneath the earth.
1979
01:30:17,521 --> 01:30:19,213
Who's the outcome
important to?
1980
01:30:19,248 --> 01:30:20,819
-[Alice] To them.
-To them.
1981
01:30:22,625 --> 01:30:25,219
And is there
anything else
1982
01:30:25,254 --> 01:30:27,826
about this
particular light
1983
01:30:27,861 --> 01:30:30,928
that we need
to know about or you're...
1984
01:30:33,097 --> 01:30:34,635
pretty comfortable?
1985
01:30:38,608 --> 01:30:40,003
[Alice] Yeah.
I'm-- I'm-- I'm--
1986
01:30:41,776 --> 01:30:44,942
Yeah, I think
the light was just a means,
1987
01:30:44,977 --> 01:30:47,813
that there was
no particular meaning.
1988
01:30:48,145 --> 01:30:50,112
I'm very,
very happy to hear that.
1989
01:30:50,147 --> 01:30:53,247
Because you are
removed from it
1990
01:30:53,282 --> 01:30:54,787
from this moment forward
1991
01:30:54,822 --> 01:30:56,723
and for the rest
of your life...
1992
01:30:57,286 --> 01:30:58,725
removed from it.
1993
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,859
Through eliminating fear,
1994
01:31:00,894 --> 01:31:04,258
we're opening up
other avenues of energy,
1995
01:31:04,293 --> 01:31:05,897
like curiosity.
1996
01:31:06,295 --> 01:31:07,833
And that's much
healthier
1997
01:31:07,868 --> 01:31:10,297
and puts her in a place
of personal empowerment.
1998
01:31:10,332 --> 01:31:12,805
So, I want you to take
a really deep breath now.
1999
01:31:14,336 --> 01:31:17,513
-Just really exhale.
-[exhales sharply]
2000
01:31:18,241 --> 01:31:20,175
And I want you
to really feel
2001
01:31:20,210 --> 01:31:22,617
how good it is to know
2002
01:31:22,652 --> 01:31:25,048
that you don't have to be
afraid of that anymore.
2003
01:31:27,118 --> 01:31:28,249
And let it all go.
2004
01:31:28,284 --> 01:31:31,318
[emotional piano instrumental]
2005
01:31:31,353 --> 01:31:32,990
And how does that feel?
2006
01:31:35,632 --> 01:31:37,599
I-- I do feel, um,
2007
01:31:37,634 --> 01:31:40,195
separated more from it.
2008
01:31:40,230 --> 01:31:43,264
So, coming back
now on one,
2009
01:31:43,299 --> 01:31:45,937
two, taking a deep
breath on three.
2010
01:31:46,808 --> 01:31:48,973
Wiggling the toes on four.
2011
01:31:49,008 --> 01:31:51,646
-[Alice] Uh-huh.
-[Laurie] Eyes open five.
2012
01:31:52,110 --> 01:31:54,616
-Okay.
-[Laurie] Very good.
2013
01:31:56,378 --> 01:31:58,246
[Steve] I mean,
the ultimate goal here
2014
01:31:58,281 --> 01:32:00,787
is to get Alice
comfortable in the house,
2015
01:32:00,822 --> 01:32:02,283
to get her to stay here.
2016
01:32:02,318 --> 01:32:03,691
It would be awesome
2017
01:32:03,726 --> 01:32:05,121
if she could
live here full time.
2018
01:32:05,156 --> 01:32:06,320
But right now,
2019
01:32:06,355 --> 01:32:07,992
she's not
living here full time.
2020
01:32:08,027 --> 01:32:10,665
Obviously, she won't even
sleep here alone at night.
2021
01:32:10,700 --> 01:32:12,931
But I want to take it
in steps, if I can.
2022
01:32:12,966 --> 01:32:15,670
If we can get her
in the house for a night
2023
01:32:15,705 --> 01:32:17,232
and then
maybe that one night
2024
01:32:17,267 --> 01:32:18,805
will turn
into a few nights.
2025
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,071
And maybe the few nights
will turn into a week.
2026
01:32:21,106 --> 01:32:22,369
That week
becomes a month
2027
01:32:22,404 --> 01:32:24,646
and now
she's in the house full time.
2028
01:32:24,681 --> 01:32:26,340
Tonight, anyway,
2029
01:32:26,375 --> 01:32:29,651
I wanted
to get your feeling...
2030
01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:33,215
uh, on-- on, uh--
on the house
2031
01:32:33,250 --> 01:32:35,382
and on
where we're sort of at.
2032
01:32:35,417 --> 01:32:37,351
Well,
we spoke to the team
2033
01:32:37,386 --> 01:32:40,189
and they're,
you know, on standby
2034
01:32:40,224 --> 01:32:42,290
in case
you're okay with this.
2035
01:32:42,325 --> 01:32:45,293
But we are wondering
if maybe tonight
2036
01:32:45,328 --> 01:32:46,833
might be
a night you might be
2037
01:32:46,868 --> 01:32:48,868
willing to sleep
in the house.
2038
01:32:48,903 --> 01:32:51,332
You know, I've actually
been thinking about that
2039
01:32:51,367 --> 01:32:53,169
since the hypnosis
2040
01:32:53,204 --> 01:32:54,973
because for some reason,
2041
01:32:55,008 --> 01:32:56,843
you know,
it wasn't what I expected.
2042
01:32:56,878 --> 01:32:59,340
I expected that I would
have to relive that experience
2043
01:32:59,375 --> 01:33:01,276
but it wasn't that at all.
2044
01:33:01,311 --> 01:33:03,377
You know,
it was actually
2045
01:33:03,412 --> 01:33:05,687
getting out
of that experience.
2046
01:33:05,722 --> 01:33:09,152
And so I feel like
I can watch it
2047
01:33:09,187 --> 01:33:10,384
from a distance.
2048
01:33:10,419 --> 01:33:11,924
-[Steve] That's interesting.
-Yeah.
2049
01:33:11,959 --> 01:33:13,695
You know,
I'll sleep with my flashlight
2050
01:33:13,730 --> 01:33:15,290
and, um, I'm good.
2051
01:33:15,325 --> 01:33:17,160
-I'll-- I'll try to do it.
-[Steve] You're thinking--
2052
01:33:17,195 --> 01:33:18,392
-Uh-huh.
-[Steve] Really?
2053
01:33:18,427 --> 01:33:19,734
I think that
she knows that this is
2054
01:33:19,769 --> 01:33:21,736
the first step for her
2055
01:33:21,771 --> 01:33:24,266
to be able
to live in the house
2056
01:33:24,301 --> 01:33:26,906
and be able
to be here full time.
2057
01:33:26,941 --> 01:33:28,809
I don't necessarily
think that, you know,
2058
01:33:28,844 --> 01:33:30,745
the activity
is going to fully stop.
2059
01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:33,407
And if we weren't
able to ever get her
2060
01:33:33,442 --> 01:33:35,013
back inside the house,
2061
01:33:35,048 --> 01:33:37,686
I wouldn't
consider that a failure.
2062
01:33:37,721 --> 01:33:39,149
She has
so much more confidence
2063
01:33:39,184 --> 01:33:41,822
and I think that
that's a major stepping stone.
2064
01:33:42,187 --> 01:33:44,191
[piano instrumental]
2065
01:33:48,061 --> 01:33:49,324
I'm on speed dial.
2066
01:33:49,359 --> 01:33:51,194
[Alice] Oh, you're so sweet.
Thank you.
2067
01:33:51,229 --> 01:33:56,232
♪
2068
01:33:56,267 --> 01:34:00,676
[crickets chirping]
2069
01:34:03,010 --> 01:34:04,372
[indistinct]
2070
01:34:04,407 --> 01:34:06,308
I'll see you all
hopefully in the morning.
2071
01:34:06,343 --> 01:34:07,375
[Kendall] Okay.
2072
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:12,846
♪
2073
01:34:16,925 --> 01:34:20,388
[indistinct chatter]
2074
01:34:20,423 --> 01:34:25,833
♪
2075
01:34:55,227 --> 01:35:00,263
♪
2076
01:35:11,243 --> 01:35:12,275
Oh, yeah.
2077
01:35:12,816 --> 01:35:15,047
[indistinct chatter]
2078
01:35:15,082 --> 01:35:20,118
♪
2079
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,894
[birds chirp]
2080
01:35:26,929 --> 01:35:31,965
♪
2081
01:35:42,571 --> 01:35:44,978
[John] You know,
she slept in the house.
2082
01:35:45,376 --> 01:35:46,474
She slept in the house.
2083
01:35:47,048 --> 01:35:48,916
In a decade,
she hadn't done that.
2084
01:35:48,951 --> 01:35:51,347
The thing I remember
is the next morning,
2085
01:35:51,382 --> 01:35:54,383
walking in the door
and just smelling coffee.
2086
01:35:55,122 --> 01:35:58,024
She was waking up,
making coffee in her house.
2087
01:35:58,059 --> 01:36:00,059
That just hit me
in a different way.
2088
01:36:00,094 --> 01:36:01,159
It was neat.
2089
01:36:07,233 --> 01:36:09,563
I think it's a natural
response sometimes
2090
01:36:09,598 --> 01:36:11,334
to be afraid
of what you can't explain.
2091
01:36:11,369 --> 01:36:13,600
You have a right to have
your feelings validated.
2092
01:36:13,635 --> 01:36:16,570
But you also,
if you truly want to
2093
01:36:16,605 --> 01:36:18,044
understand that fear,
2094
01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:19,573
you have to explore it.
2095
01:36:19,608 --> 01:36:21,883
You have to
walk through that fear.
2096
01:36:21,918 --> 01:36:23,885
You have to
confront your fear.
2097
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,117
Because something to remember
2098
01:36:25,152 --> 01:36:26,481
and I think
that's very important,
2099
01:36:26,516 --> 01:36:30,221
is sometimes
we don't acknowledge
2100
01:36:30,256 --> 01:36:31,585
our own personal power.
2101
01:36:31,620 --> 01:36:34,027
It's not easy
2102
01:36:34,062 --> 01:36:35,523
to change
the way we see things.
2103
01:36:35,558 --> 01:36:37,162
It's not easy
to change our perspective.
2104
01:36:37,197 --> 01:36:39,593
It takes practice,
it takes time, it takes work.
2105
01:36:40,101 --> 01:36:42,134
And this is our duty,
our responsibilities
2106
01:36:42,169 --> 01:36:44,103
and obligation
of being human.
2107
01:36:44,468 --> 01:36:46,072
This is what we do best.
2108
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:47,535
We learn.
2109
01:36:47,570 --> 01:36:51,011
♪
2110
01:36:51,046 --> 01:36:52,078
[Alice] Uh, you know,
Shakespeare said,
2111
01:36:52,113 --> 01:36:53,607
"To thine own self be true."
2112
01:36:53,642 --> 01:36:55,048
And then
that can't speak thoughts
2113
01:36:55,083 --> 01:36:57,347
to any man--
To your own self be true.
2114
01:36:57,382 --> 01:37:00,614
And it would have been
against my own truth
2115
01:37:00,649 --> 01:37:02,858
to have moved out
or to sell it.
2116
01:37:04,125 --> 01:37:06,620
[Steve] What Kendall
and I set out to do
2117
01:37:06,655 --> 01:37:09,623
was to get Alice
back into her house.
2118
01:37:09,658 --> 01:37:11,999
And that happened.
She spent a night here.
2119
01:37:12,034 --> 01:37:13,869
And she woke up happy.
2120
01:37:15,004 --> 01:37:17,433
And Alice has turned
this whole thing...
2121
01:37:18,469 --> 01:37:19,633
to work for her.
2122
01:37:19,668 --> 01:37:22,977
And I just think
that is remarkable.
2123
01:37:23,012 --> 01:37:25,045
I think
her attitude is perfect.
2124
01:37:25,575 --> 01:37:27,608
And the fact
that she's already
2125
01:37:27,643 --> 01:37:30,017
making steps
to staying back in her home.
2126
01:37:30,052 --> 01:37:32,283
She's taking that fear away
2127
01:37:32,318 --> 01:37:35,220
and she's
replacing it with courage
2128
01:37:35,255 --> 01:37:37,893
and dedication
to getting answers.
2129
01:37:38,555 --> 01:37:41,556
She says she wants to further
the field and I think she has.
2130
01:37:42,130 --> 01:37:44,658
And I don't think
that's ever been done before.
2131
01:37:44,693 --> 01:37:47,067
So I'm kind of feeling like
2132
01:37:47,102 --> 01:37:49,234
this is the most thorough,
2133
01:37:49,269 --> 01:37:51,533
in-depth,
paranormal investigation
2134
01:37:51,568 --> 01:37:54,371
that has
ever been documented.
2135
01:37:54,406 --> 01:37:59,442
♪
2136
01:38:03,712 --> 01:38:05,712
[night din]
2137
01:38:05,747 --> 01:38:09,056
[dramatic music]
2138
01:38:09,091 --> 01:38:11,355
And I say 'when," not "if,"
2139
01:38:11,390 --> 01:38:13,423
because that carriage
will come down.
2140
01:38:13,458 --> 01:38:14,523
You can mark my words.
2141
01:38:14,558 --> 01:38:15,557
I've been saying it before
2142
01:38:15,592 --> 01:38:16,965
you guys even got here
2143
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,296
and you're
going to hear it now.
2144
01:38:18,331 --> 01:38:20,133
I have no reason
to have the full confidence
2145
01:38:20,168 --> 01:38:21,662
but I do have
the full confidence.
2146
01:38:21,697 --> 01:38:23,334
The carriage
is coming down the stairs.
2147
01:38:25,734 --> 01:38:28,075
Any intelligent spirits
that are in the house.
2148
01:38:28,704 --> 01:38:30,737
Focus your energy
on that carriage
2149
01:38:30,772 --> 01:38:32,574
that I placed at the top
of the stairs and you have
2150
01:38:32,609 --> 01:38:35,951
our full permission
to push it down the stairs.
2151
01:38:36,745 --> 01:38:38,679
So, please
focus your energy.
2152
01:38:38,714 --> 01:38:41,088
I know you can
without a doubt,
2153
01:38:41,123 --> 01:38:43,156
and push that carriage
down the stairs.
2154
01:38:47,723 --> 01:38:49,063
[clatters]
2155
01:38:49,098 --> 01:38:50,328
-Good?
-[Kendall] Great job.
2156
01:38:50,363 --> 01:38:52,000
-All right.
-[Kendall] Wonderful job.
2157
01:38:52,035 --> 01:38:53,331
Carriage is coming down.
2158
01:38:53,366 --> 01:38:54,728
[Kendall] Let's, uh-- let's
just hold on,
2159
01:38:54,763 --> 01:38:56,268
uh, [indistinct].
2160
01:38:56,303 --> 01:38:58,468
[muffled, indistinct talking]
2161
01:39:04,113 --> 01:39:06,179
All right,
I'm going to arm it so...
2162
01:39:07,347 --> 01:39:08,379
30 on here.
2163
01:39:08,414 --> 01:39:10,216
[beeping]
2164
01:39:10,251 --> 01:39:11,448
-All right.
-[robotic voice] [indistinct]
2165
01:39:11,483 --> 01:39:13,153
away. Exit now.
2166
01:39:13,188 --> 01:39:18,257
[rhythmic beeping]
2167
01:39:27,631 --> 01:39:32,007
[rapid beeping]
2168
01:39:38,081 --> 01:39:39,509
[robotic voice] Far away.
2169
01:39:39,544 --> 01:39:41,544
[eerie instrumental]
2170
01:39:41,579 --> 01:39:46,615
♪
2171
01:40:16,647 --> 01:40:22,057
♪
2172
01:40:51,352 --> 01:40:56,520
[pleasant instrumental]
2173
01:41:31,557 --> 01:41:36,593
♪
2174
01:42:11,564 --> 01:42:16,600
♪
2175
01:42:18,472 --> 01:42:20,406
[music ends]