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<i>I think the house is alive.</i>

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<i>There's a consciousness here.</i>

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<i>You just know</i>
<i>you're being watched.</i>

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<i>I started seeing</i>
<i>light formations,</i>

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<i>bizarre light formations.</i>

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<i>It scared me so bad</i>

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<i>that when I close my eyes,</i>
<i>I still see it.</i>

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<i>I can't stay here</i>
<i>at night by myself.</i>

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♪

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♪

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<i>My name</i>
<i>is Alice Jackson.</i>

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<i>I've had this house--</i>
<i>I owned this house</i>

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<i>in Florence since 1990.</i>

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<i>In the last two years,</i>

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<i>there's been a lot of</i>
<i>interest in the house.</i>

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<i>For one thing, it just</i>
<i>makes it more comfortable a--</i>

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<i>around my neighborhood.</i>

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<i>I mean, now everybody</i>
<i>knows about the house</i>

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<i>and it's</i>
<i>very well accepted.</i>

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<i>People are very supportive.</i>

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<i>They'll tell you their</i>
<i>own stories about things.</i>

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<i>They understand</i>
<i>your experience</i>

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<i>and it's very positive.</i>

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<i>It resonates</i>
<i>with people because obviously</i>

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<i>it's a universal experience</i>
<i>to some degree.</i>

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<i>I mean, it's throughout--</i>
<i>you know, throughout history</i> ,

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<i>there's always been</i>
<i>ghost stories,</i>

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<i>always been</i>
<i>strange stories.</i>

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<i>People can relate</i>
<i>to the experience.</i>

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<i>I love my house.</i>

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<i>It feels peaceful</i>
<i>in the daytime.</i>

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<i>I like to come in</i>
<i>and read a book.</i>

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<i>I like to</i>
<i>have my friends over.</i>

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<i>But it's just</i>
<i>different at night.</i>

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<i>I mean,</i>
<i>it really is just different.</i>

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I think
a lot of people who

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think somebody deals
with a haunted house,

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especially nowadays,

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they think
it's kind of cool, you know?

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They're kind of like,
"It's awesome." You know?

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"Everybody wants
a haunted house."

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But when
you live in one,

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it's not quite that way,
you know?

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So, there must have been
a bit of a path of emotions

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that have happened
over the years.

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For-- for 20 years
we had things moving,

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ghost activity,
doors opening.

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And I accepted that.

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Okay, one more time.

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Loud enough
for everybody to hear.

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Can you please
whistle one more time?

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-That's upstairs.
-Yup. You hear that?

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It hasn't
happen again, though.

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-Ask again, can you...

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Can you
whistle one more time?

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Loud.

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That's bullshit.
That's upstairs.

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-It's in that, um--
-It's only at...

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It's in that room, um--

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It's in the crawlspace.

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Can you whistle
one more time for me?

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Come on, .

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One more time, loud.

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Oh, my God!

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In the last, uh,
11 years, 12 years,

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uh, I started seeing
light formations,

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bizarre light formation.

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I remember that
one primary time that th--

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I just said,
"That's it."

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And that was, uh,
an area of, um,

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a cylinder of daylight
in a pitch black room,

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light that didn't diffuse,
that was it.

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I didn't know
if it was just a fluke

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that it happened
when I was in that room

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or if it happened
because I was in that room.

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So uh--

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And then also
I did at the same time

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have a strong feeling
that I was being observed.

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So, I didn't know if
there was a conscious presence

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observing that room
for some reason

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or if, uh,
I was the target.

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It happened because
I was in that room.

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-So, uh-- And then also I did--

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Alice's house,

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I do feel like it's still
learning to communicate.

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I still feel like
we are teaching the spirits

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in a--
in a weird way.

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Do I think the house
is still learning?

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It-- it appears to be

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responding
to our requests.

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So, we have a baseball,

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I believe,
we have on the stairs--

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I'm gonna put
our sweet little doll

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here on the stairs.

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We put a doll in
a blue dress on the stairwell.

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We focus
solely on this object.

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I see the doll for sure.

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-That's fine. That's--
-Yeah, we're good.

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That's mainly
what I want right there.

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Yeah. That's good.

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All right,
so you have John, Alice,

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Brad in the house
investigating tonight.

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We would love some
kind of visual representation

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that you can
hear our voices

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and you can
communicate with us.

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And we continue
to ask over and over again

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that any
intelligent entity that's here,

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push that doll down.

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There's been objects
that have moved off the stairs.

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They've been pushed.

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Can you
do that again?

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Is that possible?

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Push that little doll.

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That little doll on the stairs,
just push it backwards for us.

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So, we are
verbally asking you

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to focus your energy
on that blue doll.

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And eventually...

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Amazingly,

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the doll fell.

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Every time I come,
I ask that doll to fall.

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-I do, too--
-I'd say that.

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And I was reinforcin' it
and I said,

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"John, we'd love
for you to have it fall

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even now or even ."

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Oh, my God. .

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Oh, wow.

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The ball's come down
the steps several times still.

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And more recently,
it's actually seems like

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the ball
has gotten more aggressive

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when it
comes off the stairs,

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even to the fact where
it will actually pivot almost

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before it actually
just falls straight off.

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-Oh, shit!

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Yeah, shit!
Oh, baby, oh, my God.

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Look at that--
Look at my arms.

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-So, which one?

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-So, it's- 57--

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Oh, look.
Let's come over here and look.

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Uh, the keyboards play
by itself on command.

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The organ, uh,
the piano playing on command,

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responding with deep burst.

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Uh, that-- that's been
something that's been new.

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So, if you wanna walk over here
and play that keyboard,

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or play that piano,
play it for us.

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Just give us some kind of
sign that you're here,

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you can hear our voice

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and, uh,
you want to communicate with us

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for a little bit of time.

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So, if you could light that up,
that'd be fantastic.

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Obviously, you know, you can
always turn the chandelier off

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to get our attention.

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Put a ball in this
little chair right here,

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by doll and you know--

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-Un-- Unbelievable.

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What the--

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Dude, tell me
what the odds are.

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It's clearly Sabrina.

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-Oh, shit.
-Holy shit. Yeah.

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My music box is playing

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-It is!
-Oh.

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-Did you hear music?
-Yes, certainly.

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It faded out.

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But what is it?

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Yeah.

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Oh, look at this,
look at this, look at this!

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Did you hear that?

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Dude, that frickin' piano
just played by itself!

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One of
the major differences

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with the chandelier
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does it turn off now,

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but we've actually captured

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the chandelier
turning on by itself.

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We've been asking the--

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the-- whatever's

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shutting that light off

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to turn back on.

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And that hasn't happened
ever until recently.

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All of a sudden
it starts happening.

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Hey, what'll be?

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Be back tomorrow.

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So, if you
want to do something,

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we-- we'll still be
able to see it.

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If you want to
turn that light on,

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we'll be
able to see it.

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I think that when we put
our energy into it

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and we can express
the emotions that we have

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and how important it is,
there's something

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in this house
and these four walls

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in this land
that's reacting to us,

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and it wants to
help tell its story.

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How does it make you feel
knowing that you have

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this beautiful house,

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um, but you literally

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have to
live somewhere else?

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Yeah, I remember thinking,
you know,

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before that I might
probably need to sell it

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because I'm doing
the upkeep and, you know,

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and, um...

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But I can't because I feel
emotionally attached to it.

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Actually, my daughter
died September of 2020.

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But I think
I've processed it pretty well

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because she was
very ill and I knew that,

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I knew that
she was dying.

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And, you know,
and we had time--

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We even
talked about it.

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We had time to express
ourselves and, you know,

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we had this-- she said,
"I'm-- I hope I die

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before you do because,"
she said,

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"I think you could handle it
better than I could."

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You are
the best mom ever.

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She had a lot of experiences,
and so did I,

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and I really kind of hate
that they're gone

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except just
in my own memory.

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Oh, look.
We really have this thing.

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-Looks good!
-All right.

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This is roll
A02 clip four,

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this is
Ashley Pevey's interview.

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-On marker.

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I'm Ashley Pevey.

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I grew up in this house

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and my mom
is Alice Jackson.

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Do you believe in ghosts?

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Oh, yeah,
I do believe in ghosts.

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But I'm--
I'm real conflicted.

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I can't decide
if I am

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wanting
to embrace this,

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or wanting to totally
reject it 'cause it's scary.

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You know,
it is scary.

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All these things
are .

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They're just not normal.

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I'm not really scared
because I grew up here.

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I mean,
I'm not really scared.

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But if something happens,

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then I get scared.

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What's my mom's name?

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00:16:05.271 --> 00:16:06.468
Oh!

254
00:16:07.768 --> 00:16:09.471
Oh, my God.

255
00:16:09.506 --> 00:16:10.670
It's okay.

256
00:16:10.705 --> 00:16:12.771
When I had
John Joseph, my child,

257
00:16:12.806 --> 00:16:14.311
he was six months old

258
00:16:14.346 --> 00:16:17.776
and we were sleeping
in that bed by ourselves.

259
00:16:17.811 --> 00:16:19.481
This is
the weirdest thing.

260
00:16:19.516 --> 00:16:21.153
Then he started crying.

261
00:16:21.188 --> 00:16:23.254
And so I came in this kitchen
to get him some milk.

262
00:16:23.652 --> 00:16:26.323
And when I got to the kitchen
to get him some milk,

263
00:16:26.358 --> 00:16:29.656
I heard this ballroom music
in this living room.

264
00:16:29.691 --> 00:16:32.164
And it was like,
very loud

265
00:16:32.199 --> 00:16:34.364
and it was
just playin' and playin'.

266
00:16:34.762 --> 00:16:36.795
And my mother-in-law
had come here

267
00:16:36.830 --> 00:16:38.269
and she was upstairs.

268
00:16:38.304 --> 00:16:40.106
And I thought,
"When she wakes up,

269
00:16:40.141 --> 00:16:43.208
I'm goin' fuss at her
for having that ringtone

270
00:16:43.243 --> 00:16:45.606
that plays
all night long."

271
00:16:46.180 --> 00:16:49.148
But the whole time
I was down here getting milk,

272
00:16:49.183 --> 00:16:51.150
there was ballroom music.

273
00:16:51.185 --> 00:16:52.415
When I got up
in the morning,

274
00:16:52.450 --> 00:16:54.780
she'd not left
her phone down here.

275
00:16:54.815 --> 00:16:56.353
Her phone was upstairs.

276
00:16:56.718 --> 00:16:58.751
But I heard that music.

277
00:16:58.786 --> 00:17:00.357
I mean.

278
00:17:00.392 --> 00:17:03.162
I wish somebody
could find an answer

279
00:17:03.197 --> 00:17:07.364
but, um, I'm afraid of
what that answer might be.

280
00:17:07.399 --> 00:17:08.464
You know?

281
00:17:09.764 --> 00:17:11.467
Ashley's passing.

282
00:17:11.898 --> 00:17:14.437
We lost her quickly.

283
00:17:14.769 --> 00:17:17.275
And Alice
is so unique.

284
00:17:17.310 --> 00:17:19.706
She processes some things

285
00:17:19.741 --> 00:17:21.609
differently than
anybody that I know.

286
00:17:22.183 --> 00:17:25.250
I'm actually fine
because I think

287
00:17:25.285 --> 00:17:27.252
I've processed
all that ahead of time.

288
00:17:27.287 --> 00:17:29.452
But I still think
that life continues.

289
00:17:29.487 --> 00:17:31.850
And I really--
when I visualize her,

290
00:17:31.885 --> 00:17:36.195
my natural sense
is that, um,

291
00:17:36.230 --> 00:17:38.659
she's perfectly fine,
she's perfectly happy.

292
00:17:41.202 --> 00:17:42.894
One of the reasons
why we decided

293
00:17:42.929 --> 00:17:46.865
to start
calling out Ashley's name

294
00:17:46.900 --> 00:17:49.736
is because she knows
what we do here

295
00:17:49.771 --> 00:17:51.210
as far as investigating.

296
00:17:51.245 --> 00:17:54.411
Ashley did grow up here.
She loved Alice.

297
00:17:54.776 --> 00:17:57.414
And, I mean, it makes sense.
She knows what we did.

298
00:17:57.449 --> 00:17:59.218
-She liked what we did.
-And of course,

299
00:17:59.253 --> 00:18:01.748
we did this
with Alice's consent,

300
00:18:01.783 --> 00:18:02.881
which is very important.

301
00:18:02.916 --> 00:18:04.850
And the night
we did that,

302
00:18:04.885 --> 00:18:08.524
we did get some strange,
direct responses

303
00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:10.559
from the organ
over in the corner.

304
00:18:10.594 --> 00:18:12.264
We were respectful, obviously.

305
00:18:12.299 --> 00:18:14.563
And we said,
"Ashley, are you here?"

306
00:18:14.598 --> 00:18:16.301
You know,
"Can you give us a sign?"

307
00:18:16.336 --> 00:18:18.270
You know, "We would love
to communicate with you,

308
00:18:18.305 --> 00:18:20.536
talk to you, let you know
Alice misses you."

309
00:18:21.275 --> 00:18:23.803
And all of a sudden,

310
00:18:23.838 --> 00:18:26.641
the organ piano
started booming

311
00:18:26.676 --> 00:18:28.379
a deep bass hit.

312
00:18:29.712 --> 00:18:31.151
Ashley?

313
00:18:31.648 --> 00:18:32.944
This is John.

314
00:18:35.916 --> 00:18:37.850
-Oh my-- Oh my--

315
00:18:37.885 --> 00:18:39.456
Sounds like a heartbeat.

316
00:18:41.955 --> 00:18:43.757
'Cause every
time we say Ashley.

317
00:18:43.792 --> 00:18:45.297
Every time.

318
00:18:46.696 --> 00:18:49.664
Ashley, is--
is this you?

319
00:18:55.441 --> 00:18:57.870
This is an ab--
absolute direct responses,

320
00:18:57.905 --> 00:19:00.279
I mean,
it's unbelievable.

321
00:19:01.282 --> 00:19:02.677
It wasn't a keystroke.

322
00:19:02.712 --> 00:19:05.383
It was a thumping sound
coming from the organ.

323
00:19:08.982 --> 00:19:11.257
Thank you.
Keep doing that for us.

324
00:19:18.530 --> 00:19:21.465
That's a direct response.
Thank you.

325
00:19:29.376 --> 00:19:30.837
Turn it off. Or like--

326
00:19:34.040 --> 00:19:35.611
power off.

327
00:19:35.646 --> 00:19:38.482
Yeah.
Yeah. There's only...

328
00:19:42.015 --> 00:19:43.487
I'm just curious
because whenever

329
00:19:43.522 --> 00:19:45.522
we all go back there,
it stops.

330
00:19:46.558 --> 00:19:48.789
It's off.
My phone's down. Off.

331
00:19:50.364 --> 00:19:52.364
-Lights off--
-Chandelier shut off.

332
00:19:52.399 --> 00:19:54.564
Later on we found out,
or I found out,

333
00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:57.963
that Ashley
is who gave Alice

334
00:19:57.998 --> 00:20:00.438
that piano, organ.

335
00:20:00.473 --> 00:20:02.407
We got
an organ in the house.

336
00:20:02.442 --> 00:20:04.002
And, uh,
we had heard, you know,

337
00:20:04.037 --> 00:20:05.674
my daughter
gave it to me

338
00:20:05.709 --> 00:20:08.006
because she had heard of
a lady in town was selling it

339
00:20:08.041 --> 00:20:09.744
because
she said it was haunted.

340
00:20:09.779 --> 00:20:11.812
And she was trying to
sell it for $150.

341
00:20:11.847 --> 00:20:13.352
Well,
nobody bought it.

342
00:20:13.387 --> 00:20:15.783
And so then she said
she'd sell it for $75.

343
00:20:16.390 --> 00:20:17.983
I told Ashley
I would take it, you know.

344
00:20:18.018 --> 00:20:19.457
And so, uh,
I went up there

345
00:20:19.492 --> 00:20:21.492
and got it
and it didn't do anything.

346
00:20:21.527 --> 00:20:24.858
But when John and Brad tried
to get the organ to play,

347
00:20:24.893 --> 00:20:27.630
they called her name
and that's when it played.

348
00:20:30.437 --> 00:20:31.700
There was two right there.

349
00:20:31.735 --> 00:20:34.703
It did, "Dum-dum."
You-- 'Cause you went...

350
00:20:36.344 --> 00:20:38.311
Do I think it's Ashley?

351
00:20:38.709 --> 00:20:39.742
Again, it's speculation.

352
00:20:39.777 --> 00:20:41.974
But I think it's possible
because of the amount

353
00:20:42.009 --> 00:20:43.646
of direct responses
that I got.

354
00:20:43.681 --> 00:20:45.978
It's not crazy to think
that this would be a place

355
00:20:46.013 --> 00:20:47.650
if Ashley was
to come and visit.

356
00:20:47.685 --> 00:20:50.081
Now, I'm not saying
that I necessarily

357
00:20:50.116 --> 00:20:51.720
think that was her.

358
00:20:51.755 --> 00:20:53.821
But I know that
she would do that if she could.

359
00:20:55.858 --> 00:21:00.894
♪

360
00:21:14.074 --> 00:21:16.778
Obviously, we know that
the land is probably

361
00:21:16.813 --> 00:21:19.484
the heartbeat
of the supernatural things

362
00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:20.782
that are happening here.

363
00:21:21.389 --> 00:21:22.685
Say hello, John Bullard.

364
00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:23.752
What's happenin'?

365
00:21:23.787 --> 00:21:25.490
John Bullard's in the house.

366
00:21:25.525 --> 00:21:26.821
Sabrina, all you need
is a beach and this.

367
00:21:27.692 --> 00:21:28.856
Amy Bullard's in the house.

368
00:21:29.760 --> 00:21:32.530
Seeing the research tent
pop up is cool

369
00:21:32.565 --> 00:21:34.466
because it's nice
to have a base camp.

370
00:21:36.404 --> 00:21:37.667
It makes it
easier for us

371
00:21:37.702 --> 00:21:39.438
to help document things
in the house.

372
00:21:39.473 --> 00:21:42.540
So to see this tent,
that's things we dream

373
00:21:42.575 --> 00:21:44.135
of being able
to have access to

374
00:21:44.170 --> 00:21:45.576
as paranormal investigators.

375
00:21:45.611 --> 00:21:46.874
-In here.
-This is awesome.

376
00:21:46.909 --> 00:21:48.348
This is awesome.

377
00:21:49.483 --> 00:21:50.977
One of
the most exciting things

378
00:21:51.012 --> 00:21:52.649
is the
ground-penetrating radar.

379
00:21:52.684 --> 00:21:54.387
Alice has been wanting
to do that for forever.

380
00:21:54.422 --> 00:21:56.719
I'm Benton Smith
with Century Mapping.

381
00:21:56.754 --> 00:21:59.722
We combine ground-penetrating
radar with GPS.

382
00:22:00.527 --> 00:22:02.725
We map
underground infrastructure

383
00:22:02.760 --> 00:22:05.860
from cemeteries
to municipalities,

384
00:22:05.895 --> 00:22:07.433
anything that's underground.

385
00:22:07.468 --> 00:22:08.698
If there was
a burial, like,

386
00:22:08.733 --> 00:22:10.766
let's say a body
was buried in a shroud.

387
00:22:11.197 --> 00:22:14.473
Um, body decomposes
really quickly...

388
00:22:15.509 --> 00:22:18.543
leaving basically
a pocket of air.

389
00:22:21.647 --> 00:22:23.647
Yeah, so. All right.
So you see this?

390
00:22:24.012 --> 00:22:26.914
This could be just
a change in the type of soil.

391
00:22:26.949 --> 00:22:28.520
I mean,
it could be from--

392
00:22:29.116 --> 00:22:30.885
obviously we have
a lot of clay here.

393
00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:32.953
But in your estimation,
it would probably

394
00:22:32.988 --> 00:22:35.153
just be soil related

395
00:22:35.188 --> 00:22:37.023
and not like
a man-made structure

396
00:22:37.058 --> 00:22:38.629
or burial,
that sort of thing?

397
00:22:38.664 --> 00:22:40.191
-Not a burial.
-Okay.

398
00:22:40.226 --> 00:22:42.028
Not a burial,
but I mean, could it be

399
00:22:42.063 --> 00:22:43.502
something that
was man-made, yeah.

400
00:23:05.922 --> 00:23:10.958
♪

401
00:23:22.840 --> 00:23:23.971
So these are--

402
00:23:25.271 --> 00:23:26.974
These are potential burials.

403
00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:29.482
It's not
a lot to see.

404
00:23:29.517 --> 00:23:31.176
But you can see here

405
00:23:31.211 --> 00:23:33.112
there's a beginning
and an end.

406
00:23:33.147 --> 00:23:34.817
-Yes.
-This is about

407
00:23:34.852 --> 00:23:36.016
four to five feet.

408
00:23:36.557 --> 00:23:39.921
And so everywhere
that I have a red flag,

409
00:23:39.956 --> 00:23:41.054
it's very similar.

410
00:23:41.089 --> 00:23:42.594
There's something there.

411
00:23:43.597 --> 00:23:45.729
Is that typically
what you would see

412
00:23:45.764 --> 00:23:47.632
if you were doing
that sort of work--

413
00:23:47.667 --> 00:23:49.832
Yeah, in a--
For an unmarked grave? Yeah.

414
00:23:49.867 --> 00:23:52.505
-Okay.
-There's certainly...

415
00:23:54.003 --> 00:23:55.871
I mean,
so far I've found

416
00:23:55.906 --> 00:23:58.071
10 areas that...

417
00:24:00.174 --> 00:24:03.241
some of them
could be unmarked graves.

418
00:24:03.276 --> 00:24:04.715
-Wow.
-Yeah.

419
00:24:04.750 --> 00:24:06.112
-Oh, my gosh.
-Could be.

420
00:24:06.147 --> 00:24:07.718
Ten, huh? Whoo.

421
00:24:17.290 --> 00:24:18.861
-Alice? Hey.
-Hey.

422
00:24:19.897 --> 00:24:21.963
Alice, this is Carolyn.
Uh, Carolyn. Uh, Alice.

423
00:24:21.998 --> 00:24:23.998
-How are you?
-Nice to meet you.

424
00:24:24.033 --> 00:24:27.606
So I brought in a geophysicist
named Carolyn

425
00:24:27.641 --> 00:24:30.070
with background
in astrophysics to really

426
00:24:30.105 --> 00:24:33.843
look into what could be
creating that light phenomena.

427
00:24:33.878 --> 00:24:36.274
Because a lot of things
can be explained

428
00:24:36.309 --> 00:24:38.848
by what's happening
environmentally

429
00:24:38.883 --> 00:24:41.048
and not something paranormal.

430
00:24:41.083 --> 00:24:44.315
I'm delighted to have
somebody to tell that story to

431
00:24:44.350 --> 00:24:46.119
who would
understand possibly.

432
00:24:46.154 --> 00:24:48.253
My name
is Carolyn Streiff

433
00:24:48.288 --> 00:24:51.091
and I am
a geophysicist

434
00:24:51.126 --> 00:24:53.698
that specializes
in near-surface

435
00:24:53.733 --> 00:24:56.767
geophysics acquisition
and analysis.

436
00:24:58.705 --> 00:25:01.299
The ERI
is a very useful tool

437
00:25:01.334 --> 00:25:03.939
because
we already have known

438
00:25:03.974 --> 00:25:05.611
value ranges

439
00:25:05.646 --> 00:25:08.614
for different
sediment and rock units.

440
00:25:08.649 --> 00:25:11.815
I could give some
information now for Alice

441
00:25:11.850 --> 00:25:14.983
to hopefully be able
to start coming to some sort of

442
00:25:15.018 --> 00:25:17.656
resolution
of what is happening here.

443
00:25:18.054 --> 00:25:19.790
She gave us
a lot of theories

444
00:25:19.825 --> 00:25:22.122
as to what
could be creating the phenomena

445
00:25:22.157 --> 00:25:23.255
Alice is experiencing.

446
00:25:23.290 --> 00:25:25.224
It has to do
with earthquakes

447
00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:27.292
and maybe even volcanoes

448
00:25:27.327 --> 00:25:29.602
and fault lines
and blue shale

449
00:25:29.637 --> 00:25:31.934
that's underneath
the ground here.

450
00:25:31.969 --> 00:25:34.673
There are
different types of rocks

451
00:25:34.708 --> 00:25:36.807
that when
you heat them or cool them,

452
00:25:36.842 --> 00:25:38.677
they will
have a voltage.

453
00:25:38.712 --> 00:25:41.746
If you compress them,
if you get a charge on to them.

454
00:25:41.781 --> 00:25:45.178
Also, when you do different
mechanical processes,

455
00:25:45.213 --> 00:25:46.850
they will illuminate.

456
00:25:47.215 --> 00:25:48.687
There is

457
00:25:48.722 --> 00:25:51.382
an actual
scientific effect

458
00:25:51.417 --> 00:25:54.352
that creates light
from rubbing quartz.

459
00:25:54.387 --> 00:25:55.991
And because we know

460
00:25:56.026 --> 00:25:58.862
that Alice has sand
and shale underneath her home,

461
00:25:58.897 --> 00:26:01.062
there is quartz
in sand and shale.

462
00:26:01.394 --> 00:26:03.933
So, could
something be causing

463
00:26:03.968 --> 00:26:07.607
some of these light effects
that Alice is seeing?

464
00:26:08.038 --> 00:26:11.105
What if something
is affecting Alice's house

465
00:26:11.140 --> 00:26:14.339
momentarily because of
charges in the ground

466
00:26:14.374 --> 00:26:15.879
that could be occurring?

467
00:26:17.982 --> 00:26:20.345
Having a geophysicist
come do research here

468
00:26:20.380 --> 00:26:22.017
on the land is--
is huge.

469
00:26:22.756 --> 00:26:24.283
I think it's very
exciting anytime you have

470
00:26:24.318 --> 00:26:28.419
a person of science background
that's willing to reach out

471
00:26:28.454 --> 00:26:30.388
to the paranormal
side of things.

472
00:26:30.423 --> 00:26:31.895
You don't see that.

473
00:26:32.227 --> 00:26:33.864
I--
At least I haven't.

474
00:26:33.899 --> 00:26:35.932
I haven't seen much of that
at all in this field.

475
00:26:35.967 --> 00:26:40.673
♪

476
00:26:41.269 --> 00:26:42.807
-Hey, Carolyn.
-Hey.

477
00:26:42.842 --> 00:26:46.206
You said you had
some information to share.

478
00:26:46.714 --> 00:26:48.747
This line we did

479
00:26:48.782 --> 00:26:52.146
that passed by the tree
that the dog hit at.

480
00:26:52.181 --> 00:26:54.082
So, there's something else
in the ground there.

481
00:26:54.117 --> 00:26:55.787
That is not soil,
that is something.

482
00:26:55.822 --> 00:26:56.986
And it's not
a tree root.

483
00:26:57.021 --> 00:26:58.790
It's too big
to be a tree root.

484
00:26:58.825 --> 00:27:01.353
So, what you're saying
basically is the electricity

485
00:27:01.388 --> 00:27:02.761
goes through the soil.

486
00:27:02.796 --> 00:27:04.290
-Mm-hmm.
-And here

487
00:27:04.325 --> 00:27:06.292
it is not conducting

488
00:27:06.327 --> 00:27:08.294
because
there is a void there.

489
00:27:08.901 --> 00:27:11.869
Yeah, it's having a hard--
it's having a harder time

490
00:27:11.904 --> 00:27:13.772
going through the soil.

491
00:27:13.807 --> 00:27:16.269
-Wow.
-I'll tell you something.

492
00:27:16.304 --> 00:27:19.943
This is
extremely similar

493
00:27:19.978 --> 00:27:23.947
to when I did
an old section of a cemetery

494
00:27:23.982 --> 00:27:26.477
and the body
was no longer decomposing

495
00:27:26.512 --> 00:27:28.446
so there was no longer
any signature of the body.

496
00:27:28.481 --> 00:27:31.889
But the fill
that was above the body

497
00:27:31.924 --> 00:27:34.760
was still
resistive enough to be shown,

498
00:27:34.795 --> 00:27:36.762
which is what
we're exactly seeing here.

499
00:27:36.797 --> 00:27:39.765
And there's
now fresh soil on top.

500
00:27:39.800 --> 00:27:41.833
So, that's
a loose sort of fill,

501
00:27:41.868 --> 00:27:44.737
as if somebody
had a shovel or something.

502
00:27:44.772 --> 00:27:46.134
It would be.

503
00:27:46.169 --> 00:27:48.466
It would be, yeah,
where somebody dug something

504
00:27:48.501 --> 00:27:49.874
and then filled
the hole back up.

505
00:27:49.909 --> 00:27:51.744
There's something
going on there.

506
00:27:51.779 --> 00:27:52.943
This is great.

507
00:27:52.978 --> 00:27:54.373
Thank you
for all this hard work.

508
00:27:55.013 --> 00:27:57.211
I think we may
have to dig there

509
00:27:57.246 --> 00:27:58.751
and just see what--

510
00:27:58.786 --> 00:28:00.148
what is there.

511
00:28:20.808 --> 00:28:22.269
Somebody what?

512
00:28:22.304 --> 00:28:27.340
♪

513
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.545
Copy that. Copy that.
Can you get your camera up?

514
00:28:34.580 --> 00:28:36.151
-Yeah.
-Thank you.

515
00:28:39.860 --> 00:28:41.387
Can you po--
Can you start rolling?

516
00:28:41.422 --> 00:28:43.521
-Yeah.
-Hey, Steve?

517
00:28:43.556 --> 00:28:48.559
♪

518
00:28:48.594 --> 00:28:50.935
Yeah, we're comin' out front.

519
00:28:50.970 --> 00:28:56.006
♪

520
00:29:01.310 --> 00:29:03.244
Well-- wha-- what happened?
Why-- why are you--

521
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.344
Okay.

522
00:29:05.281 --> 00:29:06.819
So.

523
00:29:07.921 --> 00:29:10.922
I was like, kind of looking
over here the entire time.

524
00:29:11.452 --> 00:29:13.551
All of a sudden,

525
00:29:13.586 --> 00:29:16.257
out of--
out of nowhere, I just saw

526
00:29:16.292 --> 00:29:17.489
somebody.

527
00:29:17.524 --> 00:29:19.029
So if I'm
standing over here.

528
00:29:19.064 --> 00:29:21.933
I'll show you exactly
where the person walked.

529
00:29:23.629 --> 00:29:25.431
But they were definitely
not heading into the tent.

530
00:29:25.466 --> 00:29:29.842
So, I expected to see somebody
walk out the other side.

531
00:29:30.438 --> 00:29:32.273
And there
is nobody over here.

532
00:29:32.308 --> 00:29:35.573
There's nobody here,
nobody turned around.

533
00:29:35.608 --> 00:29:37.245
-Okay.
-So, you were--

534
00:29:37.280 --> 00:29:39.984
I'm just having a--
This is just too wild.

535
00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:41.282
Sorry. Yes. Okay.

536
00:29:41.317 --> 00:29:44.120
So, during your, just research

537
00:29:44.155 --> 00:29:46.221
on your lines,

538
00:29:46.256 --> 00:29:49.191
you thought you saw
somebody walking over here?

539
00:29:49.226 --> 00:29:50.995
And you came over
and there's nobody here?

540
00:29:51.030 --> 00:29:53.294
And I just
happened to see

541
00:29:53.329 --> 00:29:55.329
as I'm facing towards

542
00:29:55.364 --> 00:29:57.936
this area of the yard,

543
00:29:57.971 --> 00:30:00.301
I saw somebody walking,

544
00:30:00.336 --> 00:30:03.634
uh, toward-- I saw somebody
walking towards the tent.

545
00:30:03.669 --> 00:30:06.637
I mean, I don't want to
put any more sort of--

546
00:30:06.672 --> 00:30:09.541
not fear,
but I guess maybe anxiety

547
00:30:09.576 --> 00:30:12.016
into the situation
for you.

548
00:30:12.051 --> 00:30:14.887
But there are many,
many reports

549
00:30:14.922 --> 00:30:18.484
of an apparition
being seen back here.

550
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.090
Uh,
the neighbor has claimed

551
00:30:20.125 --> 00:30:21.861
to see
an apparition back here.

552
00:30:22.292 --> 00:30:25.227
We did have a psychic named,
uh, Jill come here

553
00:30:25.262 --> 00:30:29.099
and she drew
the image of a gentleman

554
00:30:29.134 --> 00:30:32.003
that she saw
in the backyard here.

555
00:30:32.665 --> 00:30:36.238
Uh, so,
the gentleman I saw,

556
00:30:36.273 --> 00:30:38.504
without like-- I--
the thing that drew me

557
00:30:38.539 --> 00:30:41.342
to seeing this person walking
for just a brief second

558
00:30:41.377 --> 00:30:44.642
was the fact that
he was wearing white.

559
00:30:44.677 --> 00:30:46.248
-But--
-Carolyn came here

560
00:30:46.283 --> 00:30:48.954
as a total nonbeliever
of the paranormal

561
00:30:48.989 --> 00:30:51.990
and had an experience
that changed her mind.

562
00:30:52.025 --> 00:30:54.124
And she's honestly
a little bit concerned

563
00:30:54.159 --> 00:30:55.961
that the science community

564
00:30:55.996 --> 00:30:58.128
is going to
look down on her.

565
00:30:58.163 --> 00:30:59.690
They're going to
raise their eyebrow.

566
00:30:59.725 --> 00:31:01.395
But, you know,
that's scary for me

567
00:31:01.430 --> 00:31:04.937
because I wanted to
completely explain

568
00:31:04.972 --> 00:31:07.203
a lot of the phenomena
so I could tell Alice, like,

569
00:31:07.238 --> 00:31:09.700
what you're experiencing
is actually A, B, C and D.

570
00:31:09.735 --> 00:31:12.670
But the geophysicist
had an experience.

571
00:31:12.705 --> 00:31:16.080
Uh, we've had
another person, Erin,

572
00:31:16.115 --> 00:31:19.215
who lived next door,
grew up next door,

573
00:31:19.250 --> 00:31:21.349
who said she saw
a full body apparition

574
00:31:21.384 --> 00:31:24.022
not only in the same location
as the geophysicist

575
00:31:24.057 --> 00:31:28.026
but also the description
was pretty close.

576
00:31:28.061 --> 00:31:30.259
A male
in a white shirt.

577
00:31:30.294 --> 00:31:35.099
♪

578
00:31:35.134 --> 00:31:37.101
The man
I saw at the door,

579
00:31:37.136 --> 00:31:39.070
he seemed
to be about my height.

580
00:31:39.105 --> 00:31:42.337
Very young.
Early twenties. Late teens.

581
00:31:42.768 --> 00:31:45.274
He was wearing a white shirt
and he had dark hair

582
00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:48.013
and it was slicked back
and real strong eyes.

583
00:31:49.148 --> 00:31:53.018
I didn't feel like a presence
or anything when I was here,

584
00:31:53.053 --> 00:31:56.219
cutting grass, it was
completely sprung up on me.

585
00:31:57.750 --> 00:32:00.718
And he looked
so real.

586
00:32:00.753 --> 00:32:02.390
He was looking
this direction.

587
00:32:02.425 --> 00:32:05.096
And I came around the corner
and he turned his head

588
00:32:05.131 --> 00:32:07.494
and looked right at me,
and I looked at him.

589
00:32:08.101 --> 00:32:11.630
And his--
his eyes were so intense.

590
00:32:11.665 --> 00:32:14.534
It wasn't anything li--
the ghostly,

591
00:32:14.569 --> 00:32:18.505
fuzzy, foggy look that you
think you see in movies and TV.

592
00:32:18.540 --> 00:32:22.113
He was completely solid.

593
00:32:24.084 --> 00:32:25.545
Erin told us
the story about

594
00:32:25.580 --> 00:32:28.152
seeing the full body apparition
on the back land.

595
00:32:28.517 --> 00:32:30.616
Yes, I remember that
because I was at work

596
00:32:30.651 --> 00:32:32.783
and she called me and I mean,
you could tell she was--

597
00:32:32.818 --> 00:32:35.225
she was
so nervous, excited.

598
00:32:35.260 --> 00:32:37.326
And she told me,
you know, such detail.

599
00:32:37.361 --> 00:32:38.723
I mean,
there's things that I think

600
00:32:38.758 --> 00:32:40.098
draw us
out there a lot, you know?

601
00:32:40.133 --> 00:32:42.034
Whether
it's the door opening

602
00:32:42.069 --> 00:32:43.497
or the EVP,
we got one time that said,

603
00:32:43.532 --> 00:32:45.235
"I'm in the woods."

604
00:32:48.273 --> 00:32:50.240
I think that
we really should focus a lot

605
00:32:50.275 --> 00:32:52.077
on the uh--
on the backyard.

606
00:32:52.112 --> 00:32:53.672
And I think that's the
heartbeat of what's going on.

607
00:33:12.627 --> 00:33:14.132
-Hello.
-Jill.

608
00:33:14.167 --> 00:33:15.496
-It's good to see you.
-Hey,

609
00:33:15.531 --> 00:33:16.695
good to see you too.

610
00:33:16.730 --> 00:33:19.071
I'm excited that,
uh, Jill Morris,

611
00:33:19.106 --> 00:33:20.435
who came last time,

612
00:33:20.470 --> 00:33:23.405
is coming back
because she did have a lot of

613
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.178
accurate statements
and intuitive things

614
00:33:27.213 --> 00:33:29.312
that were borne out
by things that happened.

615
00:33:30.381 --> 00:33:34.119
There is a female
that I'm not familiar with

616
00:33:34.154 --> 00:33:36.187
that has been
coming here

617
00:33:36.222 --> 00:33:39.355
and she brings
with her a lot of music.

618
00:33:39.390 --> 00:33:42.292
Does that
mean anything to you?

619
00:33:42.327 --> 00:33:43.623
It does.

620
00:33:43.658 --> 00:33:46.857
And I kept
hearing music

621
00:33:46.892 --> 00:33:49.266
that almost
sounded like a music box.

622
00:33:49.301 --> 00:33:52.566
That's exactly what we hear.

623
00:33:52.601 --> 00:33:53.831
She was standing--

624
00:33:53.866 --> 00:33:55.866
like I was here
and she was standing

625
00:33:55.901 --> 00:33:58.638
more towards the door,
so whatever this area

626
00:33:58.673 --> 00:34:00.409
where the table
is over there--

627
00:34:00.444 --> 00:34:02.312
And she was just
twirling around,

628
00:34:02.347 --> 00:34:04.446
pulling all of these
beautiful lights in

629
00:34:04.481 --> 00:34:07.185
with this beautiful music
playing in the background.

630
00:34:07.583 --> 00:34:10.254
What I did
is the name Rich came up,

631
00:34:10.289 --> 00:34:12.784
then Richardson, and I'm like,
"What does this mean?"

632
00:34:12.819 --> 00:34:16.392
There is a waltz that goes back
to the state of South Carolina.

633
00:34:16.856 --> 00:34:18.460
Does--
do you have any community--

634
00:34:18.495 --> 00:34:20.231
Anything to do
with South Carolina?

635
00:34:20.497 --> 00:34:22.365
Yes,
that's where they're from.

636
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.467
We have a genealogy book
that traces the family back--

637
00:34:25.502 --> 00:34:28.107
This, for crying out loud.

638
00:34:30.309 --> 00:34:33.640
Then we have
this spirit.

639
00:34:34.742 --> 00:34:37.281
And I call him
the Reverend.

640
00:34:37.316 --> 00:34:40.185
I wouldn't say
he was evil by any means.

641
00:34:40.220 --> 00:34:41.912
He's just
a dark person.

642
00:34:41.947 --> 00:34:45.850
He just seemed to be
when he was alive,

643
00:34:45.885 --> 00:34:47.621
which carries over...

644
00:34:49.493 --> 00:34:50.558
angry.

645
00:34:52.265 --> 00:34:55.266
They were-- this area,
this land may have been his

646
00:34:55.301 --> 00:34:58.632
or he had something to do
with this land at one time.

647
00:34:58.667 --> 00:34:59.897
I'm just
going to say it.

648
00:34:59.932 --> 00:35:01.503
It's almost like,
don't find out about me.

649
00:35:01.538 --> 00:35:03.802
Like, it's because
it's an exposure.

650
00:35:04.343 --> 00:35:06.178
He was not a nice person
and I do think

651
00:35:06.213 --> 00:35:09.742
he had a hand in
what happened in the backyard.

652
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:11.843
Okay.

653
00:35:17.422 --> 00:35:20.423
So, this
is the general area.

654
00:35:21.690 --> 00:35:23.162
Just going to be honest.

655
00:35:24.264 --> 00:35:26.561
He was taken here.
I think he was hung here.

656
00:35:28.433 --> 00:35:30.730
There was
a debt to be paid

657
00:35:30.765 --> 00:35:33.799
and he--
he was killed.

658
00:35:33.834 --> 00:35:35.702
It's not that
he stole something.

659
00:35:36.309 --> 00:35:39.673
And that's kind of
what his message is right now

660
00:35:39.708 --> 00:35:41.510
speaking with you,

661
00:35:41.545 --> 00:35:44.414
is to know he's not
going to disrespect you.

662
00:35:44.449 --> 00:35:47.615
It's-- he wants people to
understand he was a good man.

663
00:35:48.585 --> 00:35:50.486
But I think the reason
he is really strong here

664
00:35:50.521 --> 00:35:52.983
is because
this is where he passed.

665
00:35:53.018 --> 00:35:54.457
That's my opinion.

666
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.592
But he tends
to hang out here.

667
00:35:58.727 --> 00:36:01.299
You know,
I don't work with psychics,

668
00:36:01.334 --> 00:36:02.729
you know, that much.

669
00:36:02.764 --> 00:36:05.765
But my job here is
to service the investigation,

670
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.702
to service what Alice wants,
to facilitate that.

671
00:36:08.737 --> 00:36:11.705
So if the team
wants another psychic here,

672
00:36:11.740 --> 00:36:13.740
you know, we're going to
bring one in for them.

673
00:36:13.775 --> 00:36:15.577
And I thought
it was important to make sure

674
00:36:15.612 --> 00:36:17.645
that is a psychic
who has never been

675
00:36:17.680 --> 00:36:19.218
to the house before.

676
00:36:27.954 --> 00:36:29.360
-Oh. Hello.
-Hello.

677
00:36:29.395 --> 00:36:30.724
-How are you? I'm Alice.
-Hey, I'm Sam.

678
00:36:30.759 --> 00:36:32.528
-Nice to meet you.
-Hey, nice to meet you.

679
00:36:32.563 --> 00:36:33.628
Come in.

680
00:36:33.663 --> 00:36:37.863
♪

681
00:36:37.898 --> 00:36:40.404
So, here we are.

682
00:36:40.439 --> 00:36:41.933
Yeah,
so, I'll tell you, like, I--

683
00:36:41.968 --> 00:36:43.473
Like, as soon as
I came on the property,

684
00:36:43.508 --> 00:36:47.378
I definitely started
having anxiety issues.

685
00:36:47.413 --> 00:36:49.479
So when it comes
to my abilities

686
00:36:49.514 --> 00:36:52.383
as a clairvoyant and as
a light of trance medium,

687
00:36:52.418 --> 00:36:55.452
I've learned to kind of
separate my emotions

688
00:36:55.487 --> 00:36:56.915
from the emotions
of the spirits

689
00:36:56.950 --> 00:36:58.455
that I'm communicating with.

690
00:36:59.359 --> 00:37:00.853
So, I came in
with my guard up.

691
00:37:00.888 --> 00:37:03.592
I-- I did feel
not welcomed

692
00:37:03.627 --> 00:37:05.495
when I first walked up
to the property.

693
00:37:05.530 --> 00:37:07.431
So, I was feeling
sort of the--

694
00:37:07.466 --> 00:37:09.565
the energy, the chaos.

695
00:37:09.600 --> 00:37:12.568
So, what I've been picking up
on for the past few days

696
00:37:12.603 --> 00:37:14.636
is there's
an older gentleman,

697
00:37:14.671 --> 00:37:17.474
uh,
who wants to communicate.

698
00:37:17.509 --> 00:37:20.873
And he definitely
is the type of person that,

699
00:37:20.908 --> 00:37:23.315
uh, very cranky.

700
00:37:23.350 --> 00:37:26.912
So when I was coming in,
he was like,

701
00:37:26.947 --> 00:37:28.881
basically telling me
to get out.

702
00:37:28.916 --> 00:37:30.355
Uh, and-- like,

703
00:37:30.390 --> 00:37:31.653
"This is my land.

704
00:37:31.688 --> 00:37:33.083
This is my land!"

705
00:37:33.118 --> 00:37:34.722
And, um,

706
00:37:34.757 --> 00:37:36.856
I think that we're going to
see on the property

707
00:37:36.891 --> 00:37:39.056
that there
is definitely, uh,

708
00:37:39.091 --> 00:37:41.663
signs that
he was on the property.

709
00:37:41.698 --> 00:37:44.435
This was not his house.
His house was out back.

710
00:37:44.470 --> 00:37:47.537
Now he has stuff
in the back there--

711
00:37:47.572 --> 00:37:48.967
He has secrets
in the back.

712
00:37:49.541 --> 00:37:51.673
Um,
and I hope that we can

713
00:37:51.708 --> 00:37:53.576
maybe uncover
those secrets.

714
00:37:53.908 --> 00:37:55.710
But he's hiding something.

715
00:37:55.745 --> 00:37:56.909
Whoa.

716
00:37:59.716 --> 00:38:01.419
Well, I can see if--
if anybody

717
00:38:01.454 --> 00:38:03.080
has tried to stay
in this room,

718
00:38:03.115 --> 00:38:04.719
like, why they wouldn't
want to stay here.

719
00:38:04.754 --> 00:38:06.820
All right.
I'm going to go there.

720
00:38:08.120 --> 00:38:09.559
Okay.

721
00:38:11.959 --> 00:38:13.728
Okay.

722
00:38:16.799 --> 00:38:18.865
All right.
What do you want from Alice?

723
00:38:26.644 --> 00:38:28.776
All right,
I'm seeing, um--

724
00:38:32.815 --> 00:38:36.883
He wants you to dig.
Uh, dig out in the back.

725
00:38:37.655 --> 00:38:40.755
Okay, um, he's showing me
that he wants you to dig.

726
00:38:41.153 --> 00:38:42.988
Um, you-- there's something
hidden down there.

727
00:38:43.023 --> 00:38:44.088
I'm getting chills.

728
00:38:44.123 --> 00:38:45.463
My back and my neck

729
00:38:45.498 --> 00:38:47.696
is being touched right now.

730
00:38:48.061 --> 00:38:49.500
Um.

731
00:38:50.129 --> 00:38:52.536
Well, when I was connecting
with the spirit

732
00:38:52.571 --> 00:38:54.439
of the older man,
he kept saying,

733
00:38:54.474 --> 00:38:56.441
"Dig, dig, dig."

734
00:38:59.479 --> 00:39:01.809
All right, sir, so I want you
to tell me where to dig.

735
00:39:02.515 --> 00:39:03.844
Give me a sign.

736
00:39:07.784 --> 00:39:10.048
All right,
can you show me where--

737
00:39:10.083 --> 00:39:11.753
Uh,
where you want to dig?

738
00:39:11.788 --> 00:39:13.788
I guess give me
some animal indication

739
00:39:13.823 --> 00:39:15.526
or some sort.

740
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:18.661
All right.
So I'm going to keep walking.

741
00:39:18.696 --> 00:39:20.531
Okay, that's interesting.

742
00:39:20.566 --> 00:39:25.602
♪

743
00:39:27.936 --> 00:39:29.903
All right, so I'm gett--
I'm getting--

744
00:39:29.938 --> 00:39:32.906
I'm getting a flashback
to someone getting,

745
00:39:32.941 --> 00:39:34.446
like,
an attack over here.

746
00:39:34.481 --> 00:39:35.909
So there was
some kind of--

747
00:39:39.046 --> 00:39:44.082
♪

748
00:39:44.557 --> 00:39:46.150
All right,
so just so you-- I mean,

749
00:39:46.185 --> 00:39:47.558
I'm going--
I'm just going to go there.

750
00:39:47.593 --> 00:39:48.922
-Yeah.
-Okay.

751
00:39:48.957 --> 00:39:52.761
Um, so there was
definitely tensions going on.

752
00:39:52.796 --> 00:39:54.631
Um,
I think that there was--

753
00:39:54.666 --> 00:39:58.129
there was an attack,
maybe even, uh, something

754
00:39:58.164 --> 00:39:59.801
like a lynching
of some sort

755
00:39:59.836 --> 00:40:01.638
that could have
happened back here too.

756
00:40:03.708 --> 00:40:05.202
The animals
responding to me is--

757
00:40:05.237 --> 00:40:06.577
means that
that's the truth.

758
00:40:16.886 --> 00:40:18.754
-Jill.
-Nice to meet you, Sam.

759
00:40:18.789 --> 00:40:20.591
It's nice to meet you, Sam.

760
00:40:22.628 --> 00:40:24.254
So, you've had
a chance to kind of

761
00:40:24.289 --> 00:40:26.091
get your own vibe,
what's going on?

762
00:40:26.126 --> 00:40:28.698
I feel like that the land
is stained with blood.

763
00:40:28.733 --> 00:40:30.095
There's something out there

764
00:40:30.130 --> 00:40:31.767
that we should
probably investigate.

765
00:40:32.198 --> 00:40:33.835
I am hearing

766
00:40:33.870 --> 00:40:36.574
a really
super pitch high frequency.

767
00:40:36.609 --> 00:40:38.609
-Oh, me too. Yeah.
-Okay.

768
00:40:38.644 --> 00:40:40.644
So, have you
ever heard that before?

769
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.614
I know you said static and
I've heard that here before.

770
00:40:43.649 --> 00:40:45.110
Yeah, I heard--
when you said you heard it

771
00:40:45.145 --> 00:40:47.178
in that back room,
I did, too.

772
00:40:47.213 --> 00:40:48.784
You want to go check it out?

773
00:40:48.819 --> 00:40:50.280
-Yeah.
-Be careful

774
00:40:50.315 --> 00:40:52.755
because
this is new for me.

775
00:40:53.758 --> 00:40:56.154
And see,
it picks up in here.

776
00:40:56.189 --> 00:40:57.254
Yep.

777
00:40:57.289 --> 00:40:59.531
Okay.
So, this is new.

778
00:41:01.161 --> 00:41:03.634
And I was trying to
get my bearings.

779
00:41:04.868 --> 00:41:06.604
It does seem
over the bed.

780
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.540
-Yeah, it's over here.
-It's over the be--

781
00:41:08.575 --> 00:41:10.234
It's like super loud
over here.

782
00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:11.301
Over there. Yeah.

783
00:41:11.336 --> 00:41:12.610
I will say this thing

784
00:41:12.645 --> 00:41:14.007
wants to attach to one of us.

785
00:41:14.042 --> 00:41:15.580
There is a male

786
00:41:15.615 --> 00:41:16.878
and that's
what he is trying to do.

787
00:41:16.913 --> 00:41:19.551
And it's odd you say that
because I get it

788
00:41:19.586 --> 00:41:21.619
right outside the house,

789
00:41:21.654 --> 00:41:23.753
whereas
the last time I was here,

790
00:41:23.788 --> 00:41:26.624
he was in the house
and he was very unpleasant.

791
00:41:26.659 --> 00:41:28.318
Right.
Was he the murderer?

792
00:41:28.353 --> 00:41:29.891
Do you think
that he's the one--

793
00:41:29.926 --> 00:41:31.728
I think he had
something to do with it.

794
00:41:31.763 --> 00:41:34.060
And it's spending, what,
a couple hours out in the back.

795
00:41:35.294 --> 00:41:37.195
It really gave me

796
00:41:37.230 --> 00:41:39.703
a good chance
to pick up on--

797
00:41:39.738 --> 00:41:43.300
there is a spirit
of an enslaved person.

798
00:41:43.335 --> 00:41:44.873
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, you're right.

799
00:41:44.908 --> 00:41:46.644
That's what
I was picking up too.

800
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:47.909
So it is something--

801
00:41:47.944 --> 00:41:49.174
You actually said lynching.

802
00:41:49.209 --> 00:41:50.714
-Yeah.
-Yeah.

803
00:41:50.749 --> 00:41:52.342
And that's--
that's what I picked up on.

804
00:41:52.377 --> 00:41:54.113
And there's a--
I'll show you that.

805
00:41:54.148 --> 00:41:55.653
You got-- You did?

806
00:41:55.688 --> 00:41:57.182
Okay,
this is giving me chills.

807
00:41:57.217 --> 00:41:58.689
Yeah.

808
00:41:59.791 --> 00:42:01.021
-Are you okay?
-Yeah.

809
00:42:03.058 --> 00:42:04.123
Yeah.

810
00:42:08.228 --> 00:42:09.634
Do you want to take a moment?

811
00:42:09.669 --> 00:42:11.834
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.

812
00:42:13.772 --> 00:42:15.904
I just--
I sort of trusted myself

813
00:42:15.939 --> 00:42:17.807
because I did see that,
but I was just like,

814
00:42:17.842 --> 00:42:20.073
I didn't
want to go there, you know?

815
00:42:20.108 --> 00:42:21.173
Because it's so horrific.

816
00:42:21.208 --> 00:42:22.207
Like, who would do that

817
00:42:22.242 --> 00:42:23.648
to somebody else, you know?

818
00:42:24.915 --> 00:42:28.950
Working with Jill
on this collaboration

819
00:42:28.985 --> 00:42:30.688
was awesome for me

820
00:42:30.723 --> 00:42:33.625
because I was able to
get a confirmation

821
00:42:33.660 --> 00:42:34.989
for the things
that I was picking up.

822
00:42:35.794 --> 00:42:38.993
He-- he is--
his spirit is very grateful.

823
00:42:39.666 --> 00:42:41.094
So just know that.

824
00:42:41.129 --> 00:42:44.328
And I--
I want him to know and I want--

825
00:42:44.363 --> 00:42:46.836
I want you
to know that

826
00:42:46.871 --> 00:42:49.839
his story
has been heard

827
00:42:49.874 --> 00:42:53.304
and he's no longer
a man without a voice.

828
00:42:53.339 --> 00:42:55.812
He now has a voice
and he can speak freely

829
00:42:55.847 --> 00:42:58.749
and hopefully
he can move on to Heaven.

830
00:43:01.754 --> 00:43:03.347
-This is good, Alice.
-Yeah, yeah,

831
00:43:03.382 --> 00:43:06.658
it feels so whole...
wholesome.

832
00:43:08.123 --> 00:43:10.387
-Healing?
-Healing, that's it.

833
00:43:24.304 --> 00:43:25.842
I wanna do the full spectrum.

834
00:43:25.877 --> 00:43:27.910
-Yup.
-I'm gonna go in there?

835
00:43:28.781 --> 00:43:30.011
Oh, my God.

836
00:43:30.046 --> 00:43:32.178
-Where?
-Just on that chair.

837
00:43:33.313 --> 00:43:34.752
And then
just do some--

838
00:43:34.787 --> 00:43:35.918
just ask a question,
see if you can

839
00:43:35.953 --> 00:43:37.315
get the
to go off.

840
00:43:37.922 --> 00:43:40.824
So, my name's Amy.
And you know me.

841
00:43:40.859 --> 00:43:42.991
I've been coming
to this house for years.

842
00:43:47.228 --> 00:43:49.261
Hi.

843
00:43:49.296 --> 00:43:50.735
Oh, my God.

844
00:43:52.332 --> 00:43:53.870
Can you
do that again?

845
00:43:56.435 --> 00:43:58.006
You know
I don't like this room.

846
00:43:59.812 --> 00:44:00.943
What's that noise?

847
00:44:00.978 --> 00:44:02.439
Sounds like .

848
00:44:02.474 --> 00:44:03.979
Which one?

849
00:44:05.510 --> 00:44:06.784
It's this one.

850
00:44:13.419 --> 00:44:17.058
Are you the spirit who made

851
00:44:17.093 --> 00:44:19.192
all that light

852
00:44:19.227 --> 00:44:21.898
happen with Alice

853
00:44:21.933 --> 00:44:23.801
when she was
in this room?

854
00:44:26.465 --> 00:44:28.938
-Put this one there.

855
00:44:30.205 --> 00:44:33.239
I know it's a lot
we're asking of you

856
00:44:33.274 --> 00:44:35.472
and it takes
a lot of energy

857
00:44:35.507 --> 00:44:37.078
to be able
to communicate.

858
00:44:37.784 --> 00:44:40.114
But I really want you
to try really hard.

859
00:44:45.858 --> 00:44:47.385
All right.
We're going to walk out.

860
00:44:47.420 --> 00:44:52.830
♪

861
00:44:55.395 --> 00:45:00.772
♪

862
00:45:04.140 --> 00:45:06.811
So, Alice
is here with us tonight.

863
00:45:06.846 --> 00:45:10.210
And I know y'all really
like having Alice come in.

864
00:45:14.887 --> 00:45:16.920
Can you all
do something to show

865
00:45:16.955 --> 00:45:18.823
that you're happy
Alice is here?

866
00:45:23.291 --> 00:45:25.863
What we want to do tonight
is engage with you

867
00:45:25.898 --> 00:45:28.294
and understand who you are,
what your name is

868
00:45:28.329 --> 00:45:30.934
and why you're attached
to the house and the property.

869
00:45:30.969 --> 00:45:33.838
♪

870
00:45:37.943 --> 00:45:41.879
Is anyone here
a victim of the fire?

871
00:45:47.315 --> 00:45:49.788
Are you buried
on this property?

872
00:45:50.923 --> 00:45:53.121
Do you remember
the fire in this town?

873
00:45:55.895 --> 00:45:57.488
Do you understand
that this house,

874
00:45:57.523 --> 00:45:58.929
this-- this property,

875
00:45:58.964 --> 00:46:00.425
where we're
standing at right now,

876
00:46:00.460 --> 00:46:02.262
this is Alice's home.

877
00:46:03.969 --> 00:46:05.837
You're not supposed
to be here.

878
00:46:12.604 --> 00:46:14.373
-What was that?
-Did-- What happened?

879
00:46:14.408 --> 00:46:15.572
Did the light dim?

880
00:46:15.607 --> 00:46:17.211
I mean, something dimmed.

881
00:46:18.148 --> 00:46:21.050
Oh, I just thought
something dimmed.

882
00:46:21.085 --> 00:46:22.480
I thought
the room dimmed.

883
00:46:29.093 --> 00:46:31.159
Alice, they know
your voice better than anybody.

884
00:46:31.194 --> 00:46:33.524
So, any--
any, anything you have.

885
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:35.064
Ask. Just--

886
00:46:36.232 --> 00:46:38.331
Okay,
is there anybody here

887
00:46:38.366 --> 00:46:40.168
who's never been
here before?

888
00:46:42.568 --> 00:46:44.975
Can you speak
so that we can hear you?

889
00:46:47.947 --> 00:46:50.343
-There you go. Ooh!

890
00:46:53.986 --> 00:46:55.447
That's pretty interesting.

891
00:46:56.252 --> 00:46:57.482
Yeah?

892
00:46:57.517 --> 00:46:58.890
That was a pretty big hit, too.

893
00:46:58.925 --> 00:47:00.892
Three
of the lights lit up.

894
00:47:02.621 --> 00:47:04.962
We appreciate
any form of communication

895
00:47:04.997 --> 00:47:06.590
-that you do.
-.

896
00:47:06.625 --> 00:47:08.163
-Like that.
-That's crazy.

897
00:47:11.234 --> 00:47:14.169
We're trying
to uncover who you are...

898
00:47:15.469 --> 00:47:17.007
and how
we can help you.

899
00:47:17.669 --> 00:47:18.943
So weird.

900
00:47:25.017 --> 00:47:26.511
Should probably all sit down.

901
00:47:26.546 --> 00:47:28.018
Alice.

902
00:47:29.450 --> 00:47:32.121
And it's interesting
that it's not going off

903
00:47:32.156 --> 00:47:33.892
now with Amy
right next to it.

904
00:47:35.962 --> 00:47:37.225
Walk over there again.

905
00:47:43.101 --> 00:47:44.595
Walk towards
the back door, Amy.

906
00:47:44.630 --> 00:47:46.201
Okay.

907
00:47:47.006 --> 00:47:48.269
You want her to go outside?

908
00:47:48.304 --> 00:47:49.699
-If you want her to go outsi--

909
00:47:49.734 --> 00:47:51.008
-Oh, look.
-Look how

910
00:47:51.043 --> 00:47:52.273
far away she is.

911
00:47:53.507 --> 00:47:55.210
Look how
far away she is.

912
00:47:55.245 --> 00:47:56.508
'Kay, that's weird.

913
00:48:07.125 --> 00:48:08.685
All right, let's--
let's-- let's transition.

914
00:48:08.720 --> 00:48:10.225
Let's leave this here.

915
00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:11.655
Let's leave this room pot
here in this chair,

916
00:48:11.690 --> 00:48:13.096
and we'll take
the full spectrum camera.

917
00:48:13.131 --> 00:48:15.065
And we'll sit out
in the backyard.

918
00:48:24.604 --> 00:48:29.981
♪

919
00:48:34.548 --> 00:48:37.351
That's a very old tree.

920
00:48:40.356 --> 00:48:42.092
It is.
I thought I was...

921
00:48:45.361 --> 00:48:46.426
Right there.

922
00:48:51.136 --> 00:48:52.432
We're trying to figure out

923
00:48:52.467 --> 00:48:56.370
if there is a body
buried in the ground--

924
00:49:11.783 --> 00:49:14.091
If you're buried here
on the property,

925
00:49:14.126 --> 00:49:16.489
can you come up
to this device

926
00:49:16.524 --> 00:49:18.029
and make it
light up?

927
00:49:19.725 --> 00:49:21.395
Why is that cat digging?

928
00:49:26.501 --> 00:49:27.533
It's interesting.

929
00:49:31.077 --> 00:49:33.374
All right, y'all,
let's wrap it up

930
00:49:33.409 --> 00:49:35.442
and let's head back
into the house.

931
00:49:38.777 --> 00:49:40.579
That does not include
the kitty cat.

932
00:49:41.549 --> 00:49:43.318
No, cats stay here.

933
00:49:45.817 --> 00:49:47.421
Sure that cat's not hungry.

934
00:49:47.456 --> 00:49:48.653
Yeah.

935
00:49:48.688 --> 00:49:53.559
♪

936
00:49:54.628 --> 00:49:58.399
So, guys,
all of these red flags, right?

937
00:49:58.434 --> 00:50:01.369
That red flag,
the red flags, see 'em?

938
00:50:02.669 --> 00:50:04.669
Those are all
spots that

939
00:50:04.704 --> 00:50:06.770
the ground-penetrating radar

940
00:50:06.805 --> 00:50:08.640
detected that
there could be

941
00:50:08.675 --> 00:50:11.280
individual bodies
or burials.

942
00:50:11.315 --> 00:50:13.150
-Really?
-Yeah. Yep.

943
00:50:13.185 --> 00:50:16.813
Um, and even there,
that red flag right there.

944
00:50:16.848 --> 00:50:18.716
Now, the geophysicist

945
00:50:18.751 --> 00:50:21.158
found spots right here.

946
00:50:21.193 --> 00:50:24.095
She said that
there could be a body.

947
00:50:24.130 --> 00:50:26.328
-Oh, my goodness.
-Right here.

948
00:50:26.363 --> 00:50:27.461
So--

949
00:50:28.530 --> 00:50:30.101
Just when it hits me,

950
00:50:30.136 --> 00:50:31.465
the bodies is the most
intriguing thing to me.

951
00:50:31.500 --> 00:50:33.797
But it's-- so it's crazy,
so you're telling me that

952
00:50:33.832 --> 00:50:36.569
each red flag
is a potential body?

953
00:50:36.604 --> 00:50:38.175
Yeah. Yeah.

954
00:50:38.474 --> 00:50:41.145
We had
a geophysicist come here

955
00:50:41.180 --> 00:50:43.114
and she marked
some places that she thought

956
00:50:43.149 --> 00:50:45.248
were possible burial sites.

957
00:50:45.283 --> 00:50:47.250
We had ground-penetrating
radar come

958
00:50:47.285 --> 00:50:49.318
and he marked places
that he thought

959
00:50:49.353 --> 00:50:52.222
were possible unmarked graves.

960
00:50:52.257 --> 00:50:54.422
You know, doing research
with Mary Alice,

961
00:50:54.457 --> 00:50:57.557
it does seem that
this property could have been

962
00:50:57.592 --> 00:50:59.856
part of all
of these properties, honestly,

963
00:50:59.891 --> 00:51:02.793
part of
the original graveyard.

964
00:51:02.828 --> 00:51:05.730
And that everything
else was moved

965
00:51:05.765 --> 00:51:08.271
but they just
left the bodies.

966
00:51:08.306 --> 00:51:10.405
You know, that--
that is a possible scenario.

967
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.671
So I wanted to see
if Alice and the team

968
00:51:12.706 --> 00:51:14.211
wanted to dig there.

969
00:51:14.246 --> 00:51:15.707
And that,
ethically, you know,

970
00:51:15.742 --> 00:51:17.544
that's a bit of a gray area.

971
00:51:17.579 --> 00:51:19.183
You know,
should you shouldn't you?

972
00:51:19.218 --> 00:51:20.844
But I thought
it would be important

973
00:51:20.879 --> 00:51:22.615
for a few different reasons.

974
00:51:22.650 --> 00:51:25.321
One, if we found something,
we could offer proper burial.

975
00:51:25.356 --> 00:51:28.687
We could do things
that could possibly get Alice

976
00:51:28.722 --> 00:51:31.525
to feel better in terms of
the phenomena happening here.

977
00:51:31.560 --> 00:51:33.890
And maybe show Alice
that it is something

978
00:51:33.925 --> 00:51:36.695
that is human in nature,
that it could have been

979
00:51:36.730 --> 00:51:38.268
a person that was once alive.

980
00:51:38.303 --> 00:51:40.501
And it's not
as scary as it could be

981
00:51:40.536 --> 00:51:43.273
if it was something that
she couldn't put a face to.

982
00:51:43.308 --> 00:51:45.539
If we did find any bodies

983
00:51:45.574 --> 00:51:48.245
or any remnants of
an old foundation or anything,

984
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.577
that there was
a structure there at one point,

985
00:51:50.612 --> 00:51:53.283
it would make her
feel a little bit better.

986
00:51:53.318 --> 00:51:55.615
If it's bodies
that's more modern.

987
00:51:55.650 --> 00:51:58.816
There's a chance there may be
buried with personal items...

988
00:51:59.654 --> 00:52:01.951
and a metal detector
could possibly pick up

989
00:52:01.986 --> 00:52:04.294
buttons or rings.

990
00:52:04.329 --> 00:52:06.230
-It's just an idea.
-No, it's a good idea.

991
00:52:06.265 --> 00:52:07.495
Actually, that's a great idea.

992
00:52:07.530 --> 00:52:10.795
Because if you
do find artifacts, right?

993
00:52:10.830 --> 00:52:12.830
Like anything that looks like
it belonged to a family...

994
00:52:13.437 --> 00:52:16.471
we can use those items
as trigger objects.

995
00:52:16.836 --> 00:52:19.243
Here's what we need to do
is get the excavator over here

996
00:52:19.278 --> 00:52:21.542
so we can start
getting it into the ground.

997
00:52:21.577 --> 00:52:23.709
And Alice, I can probably
use your metal detector.

998
00:52:23.744 --> 00:52:25.249
Yeah, you can.
I still have it.

999
00:52:25.284 --> 00:52:26.514
Okay. Beautiful.

1000
00:52:26.549 --> 00:52:28.582
Brad, we'll get you
metal detecting

1001
00:52:28.617 --> 00:52:31.420
and I'll go
get shovels and gloves.

1002
00:52:31.455 --> 00:52:33.587
-Let's get it!
-Yeah. Let-- let's get started.

1003
00:52:39.925 --> 00:52:42.464
I Just think there's
no other location in the world

1004
00:52:42.499 --> 00:52:44.466
that investigates
this hard, man.

1005
00:52:44.501 --> 00:52:49.537
♪

1006
00:52:56.876 --> 00:52:58.216
Ah.

1007
00:52:58.482 --> 00:53:00.548
Hold on tight. All right.

1008
00:53:00.583 --> 00:53:05.619
♪

1009
00:53:17.732 --> 00:53:22.768
♪

1010
00:53:29.909 --> 00:53:35.319
♪

1011
00:53:38.390 --> 00:53:41.952
Even though I've lost
the house to my personal use,

1012
00:53:41.987 --> 00:53:43.591
I do feel like
I've done the right thing

1013
00:53:43.626 --> 00:53:45.890
by just
opening it up to investigators.

1014
00:53:45.925 --> 00:53:47.661
I feel like at least,
you know, someone's getting

1015
00:53:47.696 --> 00:53:50.334
some benefit out of it,
which will be justified

1016
00:53:50.369 --> 00:53:52.028
in that something
really will be found.

1017
00:54:03.580 --> 00:54:08.616
♪

1018
00:54:09.850 --> 00:54:11.289
Hey, buddy.

1019
00:54:11.819 --> 00:54:13.720
-What's up, man?
-Hey, man.

1020
00:54:13.755 --> 00:54:14.985
How's it going?

1021
00:54:15.020 --> 00:54:16.921
I've known Dustin
for many, many years.

1022
00:54:16.956 --> 00:54:20.364
And he's a great investigator.
He's a good friend.

1023
00:54:20.399 --> 00:54:22.894
He's one
of the most kind people

1024
00:54:22.929 --> 00:54:25.534
I've ever met
and worked with.

1025
00:54:25.569 --> 00:54:27.668
I'm Dustin Perry.
I'm a paranormal researcher.

1026
00:54:27.703 --> 00:54:30.605
I've been investigating
for about 24 years.

1027
00:54:30.640 --> 00:54:32.002
I've traveled internationally.

1028
00:54:32.037 --> 00:54:33.872
I've had opportunity
to investigate

1029
00:54:33.907 --> 00:54:35.676
in 27 different countries.

1030
00:54:35.711 --> 00:54:38.877
The first impression
of arriving at Alice's house

1031
00:54:38.912 --> 00:54:41.011
is it's very unassuming.

1032
00:54:41.046 --> 00:54:42.617
But I've learned
over the years,

1033
00:54:42.652 --> 00:54:45.521
the places that look
very unassuming often have

1034
00:54:45.556 --> 00:54:47.083
some interesting
activity going on.

1035
00:54:47.118 --> 00:54:48.623
-Dustin Perry.
-Hey Alice.

1036
00:54:48.658 --> 00:54:50.394
-How are you?
-Hey! How are you?

1037
00:54:50.429 --> 00:54:51.758
I'm very well.
I like to hug people.

1038
00:54:51.793 --> 00:54:53.694
Yeah, well this--
yeah this is Mississippi.

1039
00:54:53.729 --> 00:54:55.124
-We do too.
-Alice's house

1040
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:56.928
is very unique
in the fact that

1041
00:54:56.963 --> 00:54:58.567
there's no
other place like it

1042
00:54:58.602 --> 00:55:01.097
in terms of
the amount of time

1043
00:55:01.132 --> 00:55:03.000
it's been allowed
to be investigated.

1044
00:55:03.035 --> 00:55:05.772
For me, the paranormal
is really a spiritual journey.

1045
00:55:05.807 --> 00:55:07.708
However, I try to look
at things scientifically

1046
00:55:07.743 --> 00:55:10.513
to disprove
and also to offer evidence

1047
00:55:10.548 --> 00:55:11.976
so people can understand.

1048
00:55:12.011 --> 00:55:17.388
♪

1049
00:55:24.892 --> 00:55:26.496
My name is Elizabeth Saint.

1050
00:55:26.531 --> 00:55:28.729
I have a background
in electrical engineering.

1051
00:55:28.764 --> 00:55:31.699
I've been investigating
the paranormal 10 years?

1052
00:55:31.734 --> 00:55:33.503
But it's always been
a part of my life.

1053
00:55:33.538 --> 00:55:35.032
-Hey, how's it going?
-Good. How are you?

1054
00:55:35.067 --> 00:55:36.836
-Good. I'm good.
-Oh, man! Thank you.

1055
00:55:36.871 --> 00:55:39.102
Elizabeth,
I've known for quite some time.

1056
00:55:39.137 --> 00:55:40.741
I've actually
never worked with her

1057
00:55:40.776 --> 00:55:43.744
but I know her background
in electrical engineering.

1058
00:55:43.779 --> 00:55:46.483
I know that she
likes to build equipment.

1059
00:55:46.518 --> 00:55:48.144
So, I thought it was
really important to have

1060
00:55:48.179 --> 00:55:50.619
somebody come in
that can build equipment

1061
00:55:50.654 --> 00:55:52.984
and tailor it
to certain experiences,

1062
00:55:53.019 --> 00:55:54.788
to certain types of phenomena.

1063
00:55:55.560 --> 00:55:57.626
Having a background
in electrical engineering

1064
00:55:57.661 --> 00:55:59.727
has actually been
really advantageous

1065
00:55:59.762 --> 00:56:01.190
when I go
on my investigations.

1066
00:56:01.225 --> 00:56:02.895
-Hi!
-I'm Alice.

1067
00:56:02.930 --> 00:56:04.765
-I'm Elizabeth.
-It's nice to meet you.

1068
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:06.734
-It's great to meet you, too.
-Yeah, come on in.

1069
00:56:06.769 --> 00:56:08.670
You know, I look
at things a little differently.

1070
00:56:08.705 --> 00:56:11.607
Like, it's exciting
when you have an experience

1071
00:56:11.642 --> 00:56:14.610
but there's
always this side of me

1072
00:56:14.645 --> 00:56:16.711
that is looking
for another explanation.

1073
00:56:16.746 --> 00:56:18.647
I don't know a lot about you,
of your equipment

1074
00:56:18.682 --> 00:56:19.747
and electrical stuff
and all that.

1075
00:56:19.782 --> 00:56:21.144
But I think it's fascinating.

1076
00:56:21.179 --> 00:56:22.750
I would like to see

1077
00:56:22.785 --> 00:56:24.180
how it works
and see what you get.

1078
00:56:24.215 --> 00:56:26.919
I think it's great
that Alice is open

1079
00:56:26.954 --> 00:56:29.955
to the possibilities here
of what could be going on.

1080
00:56:29.990 --> 00:56:33.662
You know, a lot of times you go
to a residential location

1081
00:56:33.697 --> 00:56:35.499
and they already
have it in their mind

1082
00:56:35.534 --> 00:56:37.061
what they think is going on.

1083
00:56:37.096 --> 00:56:39.899
It doesn't leave a lot of room
for finding out real answers.

1084
00:56:40.704 --> 00:56:42.198
They're so
wrapped up in the idea

1085
00:56:42.233 --> 00:56:44.002
that this is the haunted place
and this happens

1086
00:56:44.037 --> 00:56:45.542
and that happens.

1087
00:56:45.577 --> 00:56:47.841
And you can't possibly
show them anything else.

1088
00:56:47.876 --> 00:56:51.075
Where here, Miss Alice
and the team just want to know

1089
00:56:51.110 --> 00:56:52.142
what's causing these things.

1090
00:56:52.177 --> 00:56:53.550
Is it natural?

1091
00:56:53.585 --> 00:56:54.947
Is it some
supernatural phenomenon?

1092
00:56:54.982 --> 00:56:57.015
Or-- It's nice
that it's not like, "This is--

1093
00:56:57.050 --> 00:56:59.215
There's a portal,
there's a demon," and like,

1094
00:56:59.250 --> 00:57:01.118
you know,
it goes down that-- that road.

1095
00:57:01.153 --> 00:57:02.724
Here, it's not like that.

1096
00:57:02.759 --> 00:57:04.561
People are just so excited
to get the evidence.

1097
00:57:04.596 --> 00:57:06.563
And I am with you
100% on that.

1098
00:57:06.598 --> 00:57:08.026
Like,
I am also very excited

1099
00:57:08.061 --> 00:57:10.765
but let's have it be real

1100
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:12.602
so that we feel
better about the work

1101
00:57:12.637 --> 00:57:13.900
that we're doing
in this field.

1102
00:57:16.201 --> 00:57:18.971
So this has
an accelerometer inside

1103
00:57:19.006 --> 00:57:22.139
that pretty much is a center
that monitors any movement.

1104
00:57:29.214 --> 00:57:30.719
Do any of these
balls ever move?

1105
00:57:30.754 --> 00:57:32.116
The ones that are back here?
Yeah?

1106
00:57:32.151 --> 00:57:33.689
Not from back there.
Just--

1107
00:57:33.724 --> 00:57:34.921
Yeah, when they're--
Just the stairwell?

1108
00:57:34.956 --> 00:57:36.252
Yeah.

1109
00:57:36.287 --> 00:57:37.858
Other balls
have moved, too?

1110
00:57:37.893 --> 00:57:39.629
Well, if-- if-- Whatever
we asked, those--

1111
00:57:39.664 --> 00:57:41.125
-Hello!
-Hey, man!

1112
00:57:41.160 --> 00:57:42.533
-How's it going?
-Hey, hey!

1113
00:57:42.568 --> 00:57:43.734
-How you doing? Dustin.
-Man.

1114
00:57:43.769 --> 00:57:45.602
-Good to see you.
-Good to see you, man.

1115
00:57:45.637 --> 00:57:46.867
-What's up?
-Nice to meet you.

1116
00:57:46.902 --> 00:57:48.198
-Nice to meet you as well--
-Hey!

1117
00:57:48.233 --> 00:57:49.771
-Hey!
-How are you?

1118
00:57:49.806 --> 00:57:51.267
-Elizabeth.
-I know who you are.

1119
00:57:51.302 --> 00:57:52.807
-So nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you, too.

1120
00:57:52.842 --> 00:57:54.611
Great to see you guys.

1121
00:57:54.646 --> 00:57:55.876
Something I love
about Brad and John

1122
00:57:55.911 --> 00:57:57.240
is, honestly,
they're so compelled

1123
00:57:57.275 --> 00:57:58.978
to find Alice answers.

1124
00:57:59.310 --> 00:58:02.146
When it comes to the equipment
in the paranormal community,

1125
00:58:02.181 --> 00:58:03.917
it's very, very limited.

1126
00:58:04.623 --> 00:58:06.018
You have to understand, like,

1127
00:58:06.053 --> 00:58:09.659
these are items that are
being mass produced for sale.

1128
00:58:09.991 --> 00:58:11.628
You know?

1129
00:58:11.663 --> 00:58:13.861
They're not sent data sheets
on what kind of sensors

1130
00:58:13.896 --> 00:58:15.830
are involved
inside the equipment.

1131
00:58:16.195 --> 00:58:18.030
You know, I kind of feel
one of the biggest problems

1132
00:58:18.065 --> 00:58:20.901
with paranormal research
is that everyone's always,

1133
00:58:20.936 --> 00:58:23.167
as I say,
singing from the same hymnal.

1134
00:58:23.202 --> 00:58:24.707
You know,
we get all these devices

1135
00:58:24.742 --> 00:58:26.203
and what do we do
to make new ones?

1136
00:58:26.238 --> 00:58:28.040
We just put
a new light on it.

1137
00:58:28.075 --> 00:58:30.911
You see some lights go off,
you hear an alarm go off.

1138
00:58:30.946 --> 00:58:34.277
And you're like, "Ooh, ah,"
like, "There's something here."

1139
00:58:34.312 --> 00:58:35.883
But that's not the case.

1140
00:58:35.918 --> 00:58:37.247
You know, like,
there's so many other factors

1141
00:58:37.282 --> 00:58:39.051
to take
into consideration.

1142
00:58:39.086 --> 00:58:40.316
Or we combined, you know--

1143
00:58:40.351 --> 00:58:41.790
"Now it has
two features in one."

1144
00:58:41.825 --> 00:58:43.088
It's like,
but it's really nothing new.

1145
00:58:43.123 --> 00:58:44.595
It's the same thing.

1146
00:58:44.630 --> 00:58:46.091
And I think that...

1147
00:58:47.292 --> 00:58:48.797
there has to be expansion

1148
00:58:48.832 --> 00:58:51.129
outside of the community
to kind of understand

1149
00:58:51.164 --> 00:58:52.834
the tools that they're using.

1150
00:58:53.166 --> 00:58:55.133
And to also understand

1151
00:58:55.168 --> 00:58:56.640
all the false positives

1152
00:58:56.675 --> 00:58:58.268
that they are getting
in the process.

1153
00:58:58.809 --> 00:59:00.809
Coming to the house,
I did want to create

1154
00:59:00.844 --> 00:59:03.647
and-- and kind of customize
things that made sense

1155
00:59:03.682 --> 00:59:05.913
to what you guys
experience here, you know?

1156
00:59:05.948 --> 00:59:07.981
And everything
that you documented before.

1157
00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:10.687
And, you know, I--

1158
00:59:10.722 --> 00:59:13.382
I like to
sometimes do things

1159
00:59:13.417 --> 00:59:15.791
that other people
wouldn't necessarily do

1160
00:59:15.826 --> 00:59:17.254
just because
if we don't try it,

1161
00:59:17.289 --> 00:59:18.860
we won't know
what's going to work.

1162
00:59:19.357 --> 00:59:21.357
I have great respect
for Elizabeth Saint,

1163
00:59:21.392 --> 00:59:22.897
having known her
over the years,

1164
00:59:22.932 --> 00:59:24.393
having traveled from,
you know,

1165
00:59:24.428 --> 00:59:26.098
conventions
and things together

1166
00:59:26.133 --> 00:59:28.298
and knowing that Elizabeth
goes out of her way

1167
00:59:28.333 --> 00:59:30.036
to make specific equipment

1168
00:59:30.071 --> 00:59:32.203
like the light anomaly
that's here.

1169
00:59:32.238 --> 00:59:35.976
This is the-- the light sensor
I told you about.

1170
00:59:36.011 --> 00:59:38.814
So maybe if we do see
any light anomalies,

1171
00:59:38.849 --> 00:59:40.882
we might be able to--
It'll let us know

1172
00:59:40.917 --> 00:59:43.753
by the color
that it shines, essentially.

1173
00:59:43.788 --> 00:59:45.854
She developed something
to look for those lights

1174
00:59:45.889 --> 00:59:47.856
and then to try to figure out
which color lights it is.

1175
00:59:47.891 --> 00:59:49.726
And it lights up responsively.

1176
00:59:49.761 --> 00:59:50.892
And the most famous thing,

1177
00:59:50.927 --> 00:59:52.256
the ball moving
down the stairs.

1178
00:59:52.291 --> 00:59:54.225
So she makes
a ball that she can

1179
00:59:54.260 --> 00:59:55.831
measure any slight movement.

1180
00:59:55.866 --> 00:59:58.196
So, what's
unique about this is, um,

1181
00:59:58.231 --> 00:59:59.362
I call it
the comm sphere.

1182
00:59:59.936 --> 01:00:02.838
And it actually
communicates with my phone.

1183
01:00:02.873 --> 01:00:06.237
The Y x or Z axis and it
goes right to her software.

1184
01:00:06.272 --> 01:00:07.304
And it sends her an alert.

1185
01:00:07.339 --> 01:00:09.075
So it'll show me values

1186
01:00:09.110 --> 01:00:12.782
in the X, Y, Z direction,
if it moves.

1187
01:00:12.817 --> 01:00:15.884
To have the passion to say,

1188
01:00:15.919 --> 01:00:17.380
"I'm doing this case.

1189
01:00:17.415 --> 01:00:19.085
What's the type of activity?

1190
01:00:19.120 --> 01:00:21.054
What can I make
specifically that will speak

1191
01:00:21.089 --> 01:00:24.024
to trying to measure
that type of activity?"

1192
01:00:24.059 --> 01:00:25.762
I mean, that's--
I have trouble

1193
01:00:25.797 --> 01:00:27.324
getting on the Wi-Fi sometimes.

1194
01:00:27.359 --> 01:00:29.062
She's like,
light years above that.

1195
01:00:29.097 --> 01:00:32.032
So, I've known Dustin Perry
for a few years now.

1196
01:00:32.067 --> 01:00:34.771
And we've
always seen each other like,

1197
01:00:34.806 --> 01:00:36.267
on the road or,
you know,

1198
01:00:36.302 --> 01:00:37.939
the--
the paranormal community

1199
01:00:37.974 --> 01:00:39.743
is very, like,
tight knit community,

1200
01:00:39.778 --> 01:00:40.975
so we've always
run into each other.

1201
01:00:41.010 --> 01:00:42.911
But I've never
had the opportunity

1202
01:00:42.946 --> 01:00:45.441
to actually work with him,
so I'm really excited

1203
01:00:45.476 --> 01:00:47.245
that I'll be
able to do that here.

1204
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:48.917
Um, Alice.

1205
01:00:48.952 --> 01:00:50.380
She seems to really
embrace what's going on here,

1206
01:00:50.415 --> 01:00:53.119
which is odd because she also
seems to be afraid of it.

1207
01:00:53.154 --> 01:00:55.858
And all I want to do
is go upstairs and to the left.

1208
01:00:55.893 --> 01:00:57.156
Ever since
I've walked in the house.

1209
01:00:57.191 --> 01:00:58.388
-Really?
-Yeah.

1210
01:00:58.423 --> 01:00:59.422
When I first
walked into the house,

1211
01:00:59.457 --> 01:01:00.489
I even told her that.

1212
01:01:00.524 --> 01:01:01.963
When I first walked in,

1213
01:01:01.998 --> 01:01:04.328
I was immediately
drawn to that door frame.

1214
01:01:04.363 --> 01:01:05.802
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1215
01:01:05.837 --> 01:01:07.232
Just based on
years of experience

1216
01:01:07.267 --> 01:01:08.398
and feeling
drawn to places

1217
01:01:08.433 --> 01:01:10.103
like that seems
to be the place.

1218
01:01:10.138 --> 01:01:11.973
-Me too. Yeah.
-So.

1219
01:01:14.109 --> 01:01:16.076
Just a couple
of trip hazards here.

1220
01:01:16.111 --> 01:01:17.176
Yeah.

1221
01:01:17.211 --> 01:01:21.785
♪

1222
01:01:21.820 --> 01:01:23.017
It's interesting too,
because we have

1223
01:01:23.052 --> 01:01:24.414
the three mirrors
like you said here.

1224
01:01:24.449 --> 01:01:26.053
And then,
there's another right there.

1225
01:01:26.088 --> 01:01:28.253
I was just trying to think
for light purposes too

1226
01:01:28.288 --> 01:01:29.518
but if the door's closed,

1227
01:01:29.553 --> 01:01:30.860
she does have this-- What?

1228
01:01:30.895 --> 01:01:32.191
Is this is a balcony area?

1229
01:01:32.523 --> 01:01:33.863
I--

1230
01:01:33.898 --> 01:01:35.095
But there's no road there.

1231
01:01:35.130 --> 01:01:36.360
So, you're
not getting any, like,

1232
01:01:36.395 --> 01:01:37.295
car light
coming in through there?

1233
01:01:37.330 --> 01:01:38.395
No.

1234
01:01:39.564 --> 01:01:41.937
Because I was just trying
to think for bouncing light.

1235
01:01:41.972 --> 01:01:44.104
We are close
to the road in the front.

1236
01:01:47.010 --> 01:01:48.207
Watch that wire.

1237
01:01:51.575 --> 01:01:53.278
It's just
a-- a walk-in?

1238
01:01:56.514 --> 01:01:57.986
What's with all the mirrors?

1239
01:01:58.021 --> 01:01:59.416
There's one on the floor.

1240
01:02:00.155 --> 01:02:03.123
I don't know.
There is a crawlspace.

1241
01:02:04.929 --> 01:02:06.159
-Oh, is there?
-Yeah.

1242
01:02:09.296 --> 01:02:12.033
I-- I can't really open it.
Stay right there.

1243
01:02:12.431 --> 01:02:13.969
Do you know
if anyone's ever been?

1244
01:02:14.466 --> 01:02:16.169
No one's gone
in the crawlspace?

1245
01:02:16.468 --> 01:02:18.204
We have to go
in the crawlspace.

1246
01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:20.173
Yeah, we definitely
have to go in the crawlspace.

1247
01:02:20.208 --> 01:02:21.911
-Is there asbestos?
-Uh, no. That's uh--

1248
01:02:21.946 --> 01:02:23.275
It was put in the 90s.
That's pink.

1249
01:02:23.310 --> 01:02:25.046
-Oh, yeah.
-Yeah. Oh.

1250
01:02:25.884 --> 01:02:27.246
What is it?

1251
01:02:27.281 --> 01:02:28.918
All my hair's
just standing up there.

1252
01:02:28.953 --> 01:02:30.183
It is.

1253
01:02:30.889 --> 01:02:32.548
Like, it just felt like
something, like, grazed me

1254
01:02:32.583 --> 01:02:34.352
and I just
looked down and everything...

1255
01:02:35.025 --> 01:02:36.255
That's so weird.

1256
01:02:36.290 --> 01:02:37.828
It still
feels like more is going.

1257
01:02:38.589 --> 01:02:40.226
It's like you're about
to get electrocuted.

1258
01:02:40.261 --> 01:02:41.832
-Right.
-But right before,

1259
01:02:41.867 --> 01:02:43.064
you know,
you get struck by lightning

1260
01:02:43.099 --> 01:02:44.527
-a lot of times your--
-Yeah.

1261
01:02:44.562 --> 01:02:45.836
-Hair will--
-Yeah, it all did.

1262
01:02:46.168 --> 01:02:47.365
Hair will stand up.

1263
01:02:48.071 --> 01:02:49.367
-That's odd.
-It's weird

1264
01:02:49.402 --> 01:02:50.566
that no one's
been in there.

1265
01:02:50.601 --> 01:02:52.007
I know, right?
For sure.

1266
01:02:52.339 --> 01:02:53.943
Jeez. I'm breaking things.

1267
01:02:56.046 --> 01:02:57.573
It doesn't go
too far back but I mean,

1268
01:02:57.608 --> 01:02:59.047
we could definitely
sit in there and do,

1269
01:02:59.082 --> 01:03:00.312
like an EVP session
or something.

1270
01:03:00.347 --> 01:03:03.051
-Yeah, I think we should.
-Yeah.

1271
01:03:06.892 --> 01:03:09.156
If there's anybody here
that could hear our voice,

1272
01:03:09.191 --> 01:03:12.225
are you able to communicate
by just knocking for us?

1273
01:03:13.459 --> 01:03:14.865
Can you do
something like that?

1274
01:03:26.538 --> 01:03:27.603
How 'bout in here?

1275
01:03:30.641 --> 01:03:32.245
Well,
you heard that, right?

1276
01:03:33.281 --> 01:03:34.885
It sounded
like it was in this--

1277
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:36.546
-It sounded inside.
-Yeah.

1278
01:03:38.649 --> 01:03:39.890
Is that a woman's voice?

1279
01:03:40.926 --> 01:03:41.992
-I-- I heard a--
-I heard a knock.

1280
01:03:42.027 --> 01:03:44.158
It sounded like it was
maybe like, a woman's voice

1281
01:03:44.193 --> 01:03:45.390
or something
right before it.

1282
01:03:48.362 --> 01:03:50.263
This happens quick.

1283
01:03:52.003 --> 01:03:54.201
I think we get some good
starting points of ideas

1284
01:03:54.236 --> 01:03:56.368
in terms of trying to do
a focused investigation.

1285
01:03:56.403 --> 01:03:58.238
This area
has already been pretty hot.

1286
01:03:58.273 --> 01:03:59.943
-Yeah.
-We've had knocks and response.

1287
01:03:59.978 --> 01:04:02.506
So, if we do
a session in the crawlspace.

1288
01:04:02.541 --> 01:04:05.377
-Uh-huh.
-Use your ion charger,

1289
01:04:05.412 --> 01:04:07.984
throw that in there for a while
and then repeat the session.

1290
01:04:08.019 --> 01:04:09.546
Right.
And see if there's a change.

1291
01:04:09.581 --> 01:04:11.383
-Yeah.
-I think that's smart.

1292
01:04:11.418 --> 01:04:14.287
I used to have an ion generator
in my bedroom when I was a kid.

1293
01:04:14.322 --> 01:04:16.388
It was like an air purifier
and ion generator.

1294
01:04:16.687 --> 01:04:18.258
I don't know.
My mom bought it on QVC.

1295
01:04:18.293 --> 01:04:20.359
-Okay.
-But it was-- it was nice.

1296
01:04:21.329 --> 01:04:23.395
With ion motors,
it's very interesting.

1297
01:04:23.430 --> 01:04:24.968
Like the one I have,

1298
01:04:25.003 --> 01:04:27.069
you can make it
so it's producing positive

1299
01:04:27.104 --> 01:04:29.434
but you can also make it so
it's producing negative ions.

1300
01:04:29.469 --> 01:04:31.073
And it's going to have
a different feeling

1301
01:04:31.108 --> 01:04:32.173
and a different effect.

1302
01:04:32.208 --> 01:04:34.175
I did bring an ion motor,

1303
01:04:34.210 --> 01:04:37.013
but, um, the one I have
is pretty serious.

1304
01:04:37.048 --> 01:04:38.443
Yeah? I love it!

1305
01:04:38.478 --> 01:04:41.083
"I don't want to brag
but the ion motor I have--"

1306
01:04:41.118 --> 01:04:43.283
It's little
but it packs a punch.

1307
01:04:44.022 --> 01:04:45.615
You're going to
go out that way?

1308
01:04:45.650 --> 01:04:47.023
-Yes.
-Or not.

1309
01:04:48.752 --> 01:04:50.961
Which one
will go to the garage?

1310
01:04:50.996 --> 01:04:52.457
I don't know
which door's which.

1311
01:04:52.492 --> 01:04:53.689
It's like a labyrinth.

1312
01:04:53.724 --> 01:04:55.064
show already.

1313
01:04:55.099 --> 01:04:56.032
Yeah.
I go here, there.

1314
01:05:04.636 --> 01:05:06.075
What's all this?

1315
01:05:07.210 --> 01:05:08.407
You guys
digging out here?

1316
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.382
Wait, stop for a second.

1317
01:05:17.220 --> 01:05:19.220
-Do you hear that?

1318
01:05:19.255 --> 01:05:21.189
-What was it?
-Someone's whistling.

1319
01:05:21.521 --> 01:05:23.191
Oh, whistling? Yeah.

1320
01:05:23.721 --> 01:05:25.127
Hello?

1321
01:05:31.531 --> 01:05:32.564
That's what I heard.

1322
01:05:35.337 --> 01:05:37.007
-Well, let me get--
-There, there, there.

1323
01:05:37.042 --> 01:05:38.371
-You don't hear that?

1324
01:05:38.406 --> 01:05:39.702
-I heard it.
-You did?

1325
01:05:39.737 --> 01:05:41.143
Yeah.

1326
01:05:41.673 --> 01:05:43.475
-It was the same tune.
-Yeah.

1327
01:05:46.777 --> 01:05:48.315
That's so weird.

1328
01:05:54.125 --> 01:05:56.059
-Why that tune?
-I know, right?

1329
01:05:56.094 --> 01:05:58.391
-Frère Jacques.
-It is Frère Jacques.

1330
01:06:04.135 --> 01:06:05.530
Is there
something moving back there?

1331
01:06:06.170 --> 01:06:07.532
Totally
noise to my right--

1332
01:06:07.567 --> 01:06:09.237
It sounds
like someone's walking.

1333
01:06:09.272 --> 01:06:10.205
There's something
just ran across there.

1334
01:06:14.409 --> 01:06:17.113
I-- I saw something go
like straight across.

1335
01:06:20.085 --> 01:06:22.019
It's a real
person or what?

1336
01:06:22.846 --> 01:06:24.582
Oh, man.

1337
01:06:24.617 --> 01:06:26.617
I heard a woman's voice
over there a couple times.

1338
01:06:26.652 --> 01:06:28.487
You know, Alice,
one thing I will say, though,

1339
01:06:28.522 --> 01:06:31.655
despite all the kind of
touch and go, little bits of,

1340
01:06:31.690 --> 01:06:33.756
of activity even inside.

1341
01:06:33.791 --> 01:06:35.692
Like, I don't know,
for me personally,

1342
01:06:35.727 --> 01:06:37.265
I don't feel
anything that feels like,

1343
01:06:37.300 --> 01:06:39.498
threatening or-- or--
or angry in any way.

1344
01:06:39.533 --> 01:06:41.302
My neighbor said--
she said all these

1345
01:06:41.337 --> 01:06:42.798
they like thinking
she sees people.

1346
01:06:42.833 --> 01:06:44.371
She gets out there,
there's nobody there.

1347
01:06:44.406 --> 01:06:46.505
There's no reading's,
like, out here,

1348
01:06:46.540 --> 01:06:49.508
but out here
we had this strange whistling.

1349
01:06:49.543 --> 01:06:51.246
-Yeah.
-Sounded like people were

1350
01:06:51.281 --> 01:06:53.149
having conversation back there.

1351
01:06:53.646 --> 01:06:54.711
Also a female voice.

1352
01:06:55.914 --> 01:06:59.419
Um, we heard,
like, footsteps, it seems like.

1353
01:06:59.454 --> 01:07:01.520
You know,
coming back tomorrow

1354
01:07:01.555 --> 01:07:03.456
with more equipment,

1355
01:07:03.491 --> 01:07:05.293
I will be curious to see

1356
01:07:05.328 --> 01:07:07.526
if it responds the same.

1357
01:07:07.561 --> 01:07:09.330
I'm thrilled that you came,
both of you.

1358
01:07:09.365 --> 01:07:10.859
Yeah.
Thank you for having us.

1359
01:07:10.894 --> 01:07:12.300
Thank you very much.
We appreciate it.

1360
01:07:12.335 --> 01:07:15.336
Oh, yeah.
It was our-- our pleasure.

1361
01:07:16.735 --> 01:07:18.108
And we
get to meet Jacques.

1362
01:07:18.143 --> 01:07:19.439
We have a new person
on the team.

1363
01:07:19.474 --> 01:07:21.177
Yeah.
Your little mascot.

1364
01:07:21.212 --> 01:07:22.475
Helps us
dig holes and stuff.

1365
01:07:22.906 --> 01:07:24.708
That's right.
Dig and fill them.

1366
01:07:24.743 --> 01:07:27.381
Yes. Yes.
At least he's courteous.

1367
01:07:27.416 --> 01:07:29.086
Yeah,
that's very nice.

1368
01:07:32.388 --> 01:07:37.424
♪

1369
01:07:45.236 --> 01:07:46.466
Florence,

1370
01:07:46.501 --> 01:07:48.633
a small town
in central Mississippi.

1371
01:07:49.768 --> 01:07:51.207
Maybe you've
never heard of it.

1372
01:07:52.771 --> 01:07:54.243
It has history.

1373
01:07:54.674 --> 01:07:56.410
Some dark history as well.

1374
01:07:56.907 --> 01:07:58.643
There were outlaws here.

1375
01:07:59.316 --> 01:08:02.350
Bad men, charlatans,

1376
01:08:02.385 --> 01:08:04.319
those who would
steal your money.

1377
01:08:04.783 --> 01:08:06.156
Those who would
take your life.

1378
01:08:06.521 --> 01:08:09.225
And like most good stories,
this story happens

1379
01:08:09.260 --> 01:08:11.227
long ago in a place
far away.

1380
01:08:11.262 --> 01:08:12.690
Western South Carolina.

1381
01:08:13.264 --> 01:08:15.594
A ma'am named Nancy Lusk.

1382
01:08:15.926 --> 01:08:17.464
Her middle name was Agnes.

1383
01:08:17.499 --> 01:08:19.169
And I believe
she actually went by Agnes.

1384
01:08:19.204 --> 01:08:21.468
She was born
in a time of war.

1385
01:08:21.503 --> 01:08:23.470
She came of age
in the events

1386
01:08:23.505 --> 01:08:25.637
leading up
to the American Revolution.

1387
01:08:26.409 --> 01:08:27.903
She was 19 years old.

1388
01:08:27.938 --> 01:08:29.806
She warred-- married
a man named William Steen.

1389
01:08:30.512 --> 01:08:31.907
William Steen
will actually fight

1390
01:08:31.942 --> 01:08:33.315
in the American Revolution

1391
01:08:33.350 --> 01:08:34.811
at the Battle
of Kings Mountain.

1392
01:08:34.846 --> 01:08:38.254
So about 1810, William decides
to take his family West

1393
01:08:38.289 --> 01:08:40.388
into the new
Mississippi territory,

1394
01:08:40.423 --> 01:08:42.357
where the land
is rich and fertile.

1395
01:08:42.755 --> 01:08:43.919
During this interval,

1396
01:08:43.954 --> 01:08:45.525
one of these mules
comes up missing.

1397
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:47.626
So he goes out
looking for his mule

1398
01:08:47.661 --> 01:08:48.726
and he never returns.

1399
01:08:50.598 --> 01:08:52.796
It was believed
that he might have been killed

1400
01:08:52.831 --> 01:08:54.303
by the Native Americans

1401
01:08:54.338 --> 01:08:55.898
who still claim
this land as their own.

1402
01:08:55.933 --> 01:08:57.834
But nobody
really knows for certain.

1403
01:08:57.869 --> 01:08:59.572
But nonetheless,
he never returns.

1404
01:08:59.607 --> 01:09:02.410
And so Agnes is now
the matriarch of the family

1405
01:09:02.445 --> 01:09:04.775
and she and the rest
for grown children

1406
01:09:04.810 --> 01:09:06.777
push on
and complete the journey.

1407
01:09:07.450 --> 01:09:08.845
And they settle here.

1408
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:10.484
And since they settle,
first settlers,

1409
01:09:10.519 --> 01:09:12.321
it becomes known
as Steen's Creek.

1410
01:09:12.653 --> 01:09:15.390
Uh, by the turn
of the 20th century,

1411
01:09:15.425 --> 01:09:17.590
this area has been known
as Steen Creek for a while.

1412
01:09:18.263 --> 01:09:20.461
And there's
a new rail line coming through.

1413
01:09:21.431 --> 01:09:22.925
They're going
to build a railroad track

1414
01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:25.499
from the Gulf Coast up into
the capital city of Jackson,

1415
01:09:25.534 --> 01:09:26.830
a few miles
north of here.

1416
01:09:26.865 --> 01:09:28.964
Uh, one gentleman,
Mr. Ellis,

1417
01:09:28.999 --> 01:09:31.571
will donate
the land for the depot

1418
01:09:31.606 --> 01:09:32.539
on one condition.

1419
01:09:32.574 --> 01:09:35.245
He wants that depot
named after his wife.

1420
01:09:35.775 --> 01:09:38.413
Willing to take the free land,
whatever they can,

1421
01:09:38.448 --> 01:09:41.317
the depot is actually named
Florence Depot

1422
01:09:41.352 --> 01:09:43.319
rather than Steen's Creek.

1423
01:09:46.390 --> 01:09:47.983
Most of American
history and again,

1424
01:09:48.018 --> 01:09:49.457
the history
of the world is made--

1425
01:09:49.492 --> 01:09:50.788
It's been a man's world.

1426
01:09:51.362 --> 01:09:53.329
The men take the credit
and are the kings.

1427
01:09:53.364 --> 01:09:55.023
They're the soldiers,
they're the ones that go off

1428
01:09:55.058 --> 01:09:57.564
and everybody
raves about them.

1429
01:09:57.599 --> 01:10:00.468
But back there in--
Behind them in the shadows

1430
01:10:00.503 --> 01:10:01.997
have always been the women

1431
01:10:02.032 --> 01:10:04.538
making sure
the farm is still running,

1432
01:10:04.573 --> 01:10:07.541
making sure there's food
still heading out to the front,

1433
01:10:07.576 --> 01:10:10.412
making sure the hard
decisions are being made.

1434
01:10:10.876 --> 01:10:13.679
The hand that rocks
the cradle rules the world.

1435
01:10:16.321 --> 01:10:18.783
And now it's 1905.

1436
01:10:19.324 --> 01:10:20.488
We're going
to build a city.

1437
01:10:20.523 --> 01:10:21.753
What are we going to call it?

1438
01:10:21.788 --> 01:10:24.327
And I suspect,
I don't know for certain,

1439
01:10:24.362 --> 01:10:25.889
but I suspect
by this time a lot of people

1440
01:10:25.924 --> 01:10:27.561
had started referring to it

1441
01:10:27.596 --> 01:10:29.497
by the name of the Depot,
Florence.

1442
01:10:29.532 --> 01:10:31.697
And the City
of Florence was born.

1443
01:10:31.732 --> 01:10:35.030
Founded by a woman
and named for a woman.

1444
01:10:35.065 --> 01:10:40.442
♪

1445
01:10:42.809 --> 01:10:45.040
Mary Alice? Hi.

1446
01:10:47.110 --> 01:10:49.418
I, uh-- I have
these for you.

1447
01:10:49.849 --> 01:10:52.520
Um, thank you for making time

1448
01:10:52.555 --> 01:10:54.588
to meet with us again.

1449
01:10:54.623 --> 01:10:56.656
We've had
really incredible researchers

1450
01:10:56.691 --> 01:10:58.790
do a deep dive
with some of the Steen history.

1451
01:10:58.825 --> 01:11:01.859
Florence husband, C Ellis...

1452
01:11:01.894 --> 01:11:04.631
And, um, they found
some old photographs.

1453
01:11:04.666 --> 01:11:07.535
Gave the land
to the railroad company.

1454
01:11:07.570 --> 01:11:11.033
The Steen family is a very--
Well, the Steen name

1455
01:11:11.068 --> 01:11:14.003
is a very,
very well known name

1456
01:11:14.038 --> 01:11:15.444
in the Florence area.

1457
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:16.874
In fact,
there's a lot of streets named

1458
01:11:16.909 --> 01:11:18.645
Steen this, Steen that,

1459
01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:19.976
Steen Creek.

1460
01:11:20.011 --> 01:11:23.386
Do you think Mr. Steen

1461
01:11:23.421 --> 01:11:25.586
or Mrs. Steen

1462
01:11:25.621 --> 01:11:28.391
has anything to do
with the haunting here?

1463
01:11:29.955 --> 01:11:33.825
I don't know if the Steens
have anything to do

1464
01:11:33.860 --> 01:11:35.431
with the haunting here.

1465
01:11:35.466 --> 01:11:38.830
We have had
some EVP's with Henry.

1466
01:11:38.865 --> 01:11:41.932
Henry Steen is somebody
that I've called out,

1467
01:11:41.967 --> 01:11:43.406
uh, to several times.

1468
01:11:43.441 --> 01:11:45.969
We've captured
an EVP voice recording

1469
01:11:46.004 --> 01:11:48.103
that did say Henry,
obviously.

1470
01:11:48.138 --> 01:11:51.645
And Henry Steen
is one Steen families.

1471
01:11:52.483 --> 01:11:54.417
Can you tell us
what your name is?

1472
01:11:55.486 --> 01:11:56.848
<i> Henry.</i>

1473
01:11:57.521 --> 01:11:59.389
You know,
there is definitely a--

1474
01:11:59.424 --> 01:12:02.590
a pattern of the male,
whether it's the apparition,

1475
01:12:02.625 --> 01:12:03.888
whether it's the voice.

1476
01:12:03.923 --> 01:12:08.959
♪

1477
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.572
Hearing Henry
kind of validates

1478
01:12:17.607 --> 01:12:19.772
and kind of puts
things in perspective.

1479
01:12:20.203 --> 01:12:22.577
So that's possible.

1480
01:12:22.975 --> 01:12:25.745
There is a lot of Henrys
in the world, though.

1481
01:12:42.533 --> 01:12:43.763
That's interesting.

1482
01:12:44.667 --> 01:12:47.437
It's not metal
but it's fabric of some kind.

1483
01:12:48.671 --> 01:12:49.571
So...

1484
01:12:50.674 --> 01:12:53.641
I found this while the detector
picked up the metal.

1485
01:12:53.676 --> 01:12:55.709
What's interesting
even more to me,

1486
01:12:55.744 --> 01:12:57.513
this looks like
it's some kind of fabric.

1487
01:13:00.815 --> 01:13:03.486
It's really kind--
It's really sensitive.

1488
01:13:03.521 --> 01:13:06.082
Oh. Oh, yeah.

1489
01:13:06.117 --> 01:13:07.622
It's hard to tell.

1490
01:13:11.122 --> 01:13:12.594
Be very gentle.

1491
01:13:24.069 --> 01:13:26.443
Oh! Oh!

1492
01:13:27.710 --> 01:13:30.579
But what's intriguing about,
about what this object is

1493
01:13:30.614 --> 01:13:32.779
is the fact
that it was so deep.

1494
01:13:32.814 --> 01:13:35.111
Well,
does it feel like ?

1495
01:13:36.015 --> 01:13:37.883
Oh, it's even got a--
Oh, my goodness. What's it say?

1496
01:13:37.918 --> 01:13:39.247
Oh, it's got
something fancy on it.

1497
01:13:39.282 --> 01:13:40.721
Oh, it's got letters on it.

1498
01:13:41.152 --> 01:13:42.624
Because it is .

1499
01:13:47.125 --> 01:13:48.597
Right there underneath.

1500
01:13:51.261 --> 01:13:52.568
There you go, Sabrina.

1501
01:14:01.909 --> 01:14:04.140
It's almost
like a fake.

1502
01:14:06.243 --> 01:14:11.884
♪

1503
01:14:25.031 --> 01:14:26.063
That's weird.

1504
01:14:26.901 --> 01:14:28.901
-It's definitely metal.
-Yeah.

1505
01:14:34.172 --> 01:14:35.875
Oh, boy.
Is that jewelry?

1506
01:14:35.910 --> 01:14:39.043
I think so,
it might be a ring.

1507
01:14:45.183 --> 01:14:46.589
68.

1508
01:14:47.152 --> 01:14:49.185
Silver usually
rings around 70.

1509
01:14:49.220 --> 01:14:50.659
I'm not saying
it's silver, but--

1510
01:14:57.668 --> 01:14:58.865
It's an odd shape.

1511
01:15:04.367 --> 01:15:06.675
We didn't find
any evidence of bodies

1512
01:15:06.710 --> 01:15:08.644
in the ground
or old structures.

1513
01:15:08.679 --> 01:15:11.207
So, that makes sense
that at one time

1514
01:15:11.242 --> 01:15:13.176
there were
graves back there

1515
01:15:13.211 --> 01:15:15.178
but the bodies
have been removed.

1516
01:15:15.213 --> 01:15:16.916
And that's
what the ERI survey said,

1517
01:15:16.951 --> 01:15:19.589
that there are
unmarked graves there

1518
01:15:19.624 --> 01:15:22.559
but the bodies
just aren't there anymore.

1519
01:15:24.992 --> 01:15:29.665
♪

1520
01:15:31.361 --> 01:15:34.065
I-- I set up some
environmental sensors for us.

1521
01:15:34.100 --> 01:15:35.231
Uh-huh.

1522
01:15:36.367 --> 01:15:38.938
And I'm going to be monitoring
temperature, pressure.

1523
01:15:38.973 --> 01:15:41.644
And also, I--
I do have a magnetic coil

1524
01:15:41.679 --> 01:15:43.778
that I've wired up
to an amplifier,

1525
01:15:43.813 --> 01:15:46.242
and I just
put it on the walking stick.

1526
01:15:46.277 --> 01:15:47.584
I felt like there was...

1527
01:15:48.787 --> 01:15:50.785
Atmospheric data has always
been really important to me

1528
01:15:50.820 --> 01:15:52.215
on any investigation I do

1529
01:15:52.250 --> 01:15:54.217
because I have
found correlations

1530
01:15:54.252 --> 01:15:56.285
between a change
in the environment

1531
01:15:56.320 --> 01:15:58.991
with paranormal
activity happening.

1532
01:15:59.026 --> 01:16:00.696
I'm not saying that
that's a ghost.

1533
01:16:00.731 --> 01:16:03.666
But what I am saying
is that there are weird,

1534
01:16:03.701 --> 01:16:05.965
interesting things
that sometimes take place

1535
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:07.868
when you see
a dip in the data.

1536
01:16:07.903 --> 01:16:10.068
And I always find
that to be fascinating.

1537
01:16:12.303 --> 01:16:14.138
-Nice.
-Ta-da.

1538
01:16:14.173 --> 01:16:15.744
We look great.

1539
01:16:16.142 --> 01:16:17.405
Oh, my gosh.

1540
01:16:17.440 --> 01:16:19.143
-I look crazed.

1541
01:16:20.784 --> 01:16:22.685
All right,
so I brought a Theremin,

1542
01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:25.688
um, which is
an old school instrument.

1543
01:16:25.723 --> 01:16:27.250
So, if we could
wire the door.

1544
01:16:27.285 --> 01:16:29.989
But we're going to extend
the range of it, right?

1545
01:16:30.024 --> 01:16:31.727
Yeah,
so I think by, like,

1546
01:16:31.762 --> 01:16:33.355
extending the antenna out.

1547
01:16:33.390 --> 01:16:34.994
-Uh-huh.
-And since the--

1548
01:16:35.029 --> 01:16:37.359
We both
when we first arrived here,

1549
01:16:37.394 --> 01:16:38.998
we were drawn
to this door frame.

1550
01:16:39.033 --> 01:16:40.670
-Yeah.
-So I think that

1551
01:16:40.705 --> 01:16:42.331
by creating a threshold.

1552
01:16:42.366 --> 01:16:45.433
So, if any, like,
subtle energy comes in,

1553
01:16:45.468 --> 01:16:47.072
the hope is that
it sets off the Theremin.

1554
01:16:47.107 --> 01:16:49.008
Right.
That would be great.

1555
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:53.782
So, we're just
wrapping the copper wire

1556
01:16:53.817 --> 01:16:56.444
around the, uh, pitch antenna
of the Theremin, here.

1557
01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:58.886
So, this would be
normally how you control

1558
01:16:58.921 --> 01:17:01.383
the, uh-- the pitch sound
by moving your hand closer.

1559
01:17:01.418 --> 01:17:02.857
Completely experimental.

1560
01:17:02.892 --> 01:17:04.287
Not sure
if it's going to work.

1561
01:17:04.322 --> 01:17:07.026
But if it does, that would be
really interesting.

1562
01:17:11.769 --> 01:17:14.198
It's just good
to continue to try new things.

1563
01:17:16.466 --> 01:17:17.872
So...

1564
01:17:20.206 --> 01:17:21.304
Now we'll see.

1565
01:17:21.944 --> 01:17:23.779
-Yeah?

1566
01:17:23.814 --> 01:17:25.341
So now it's working
because normally

1567
01:17:25.376 --> 01:17:27.145
you have to be
touching that.

1568
01:17:28.115 --> 01:17:29.180
Go, go in the door.

1569
01:17:30.755 --> 01:17:32.117
-Oh.
-Yeah.

1570
01:17:32.152 --> 01:17:33.822
That time it worked.
Yeah. That time it worked.

1571
01:17:33.857 --> 01:17:35.153
-That worked.
-So it is--

1572
01:17:35.188 --> 01:17:36.385
It's building up
and getting the whole thing.

1573
01:17:36.420 --> 01:17:37.925
-Yeah.
-Yeah--

1574
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:39.223
-Oh, see! Can you hear it?
-Yup.

1575
01:17:39.258 --> 01:17:40.730
-That's a lot of fun.

1576
01:17:40.765 --> 01:17:42.127
Oh, that's so fun.

1577
01:17:43.493 --> 01:17:45.031
I love science.

1578
01:17:46.771 --> 01:17:48.166
I like it.
That's great.

1579
01:17:48.971 --> 01:17:50.432
The science community
isn't open

1580
01:17:50.467 --> 01:17:52.500
to the idea
of the paranormal.

1581
01:17:52.535 --> 01:17:55.811
And unfortunately,
the paranormal community

1582
01:17:55.846 --> 01:17:58.506
isn't viewed as--

1583
01:17:58.541 --> 01:18:00.816
It's not taken seriously.
Like, that's a problem.

1584
01:18:00.851 --> 01:18:02.917
We're just
not taken seriously.

1585
01:18:04.118 --> 01:18:05.887
I've always thought
it was interesting

1586
01:18:05.922 --> 01:18:09.154
that for some reason
people think science

1587
01:18:09.189 --> 01:18:12.223
and spirituality
have to butt heads.

1588
01:18:12.797 --> 01:18:14.863
You know, the fact
that research scientists

1589
01:18:14.898 --> 01:18:16.964
would be afraid to speak
to somebody about something

1590
01:18:16.999 --> 01:18:19.802
of a spiritual nature
or paranormal nature,

1591
01:18:19.837 --> 01:18:21.463
I think shows that divide.

1592
01:18:21.498 --> 01:18:23.938
And that divide is--
is a problem.

1593
01:18:23.973 --> 01:18:25.973
I would love to get
to a place where the field's

1594
01:18:26.008 --> 01:18:28.536
taken more seriously,
because not only do I think

1595
01:18:28.571 --> 01:18:30.109
the paranormal community
is missing out

1596
01:18:30.144 --> 01:18:31.539
but I also feel
like the science community

1597
01:18:31.574 --> 01:18:32.980
is missing out.

1598
01:18:33.015 --> 01:18:34.509
Do the initial run in here.

1599
01:18:34.544 --> 01:18:36.852
Yeah, I think yesterday-- What?

1600
01:18:37.514 --> 01:18:38.854
I got too close to it.

1601
01:18:38.889 --> 01:18:40.251
-Okay.

1602
01:18:40.286 --> 01:18:42.858
But this is interesting
because if something--

1603
01:18:42.893 --> 01:18:44.860
This doorway
seems to be an active spot

1604
01:18:44.895 --> 01:18:46.422
so if something decides
to walk through here,

1605
01:18:46.457 --> 01:18:48.160
we should be
able to hear it.

1606
01:18:49.196 --> 01:18:50.525
So we're going
to do an experiment.

1607
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.131
All right.
Very good.

1608
01:18:52.166 --> 01:18:54.265
So first we're going
to do an initial session.

1609
01:18:56.335 --> 01:18:59.138
Everything's beeping.
Did you touch the door?

1610
01:18:59.173 --> 01:19:00.205
No.

1611
01:19:00.240 --> 01:19:05.375
♪

1612
01:19:05.410 --> 01:19:07.916
I have to keep an ear
out for both these things.

1613
01:19:14.485 --> 01:19:17.024
I'm just going
to baseline this meter.

1614
01:19:17.059 --> 01:19:18.223
Uh-huh.

1615
01:19:19.193 --> 01:19:21.864
Hello.
This is Elizabeth and Dustin.

1616
01:19:22.592 --> 01:19:24.427
If you're able
to communicate with us

1617
01:19:24.462 --> 01:19:26.231
or maybe
let us hear your voice.

1618
01:19:26.629 --> 01:19:28.904
Try to speak
into this device here.

1619
01:19:29.973 --> 01:19:31.269
We may be
able to hear you.

1620
01:19:31.304 --> 01:19:36.340
♪

1621
01:19:43.217 --> 01:19:45.987
Dustin to, uh,
the team out in the tech tent.

1622
01:19:46.517 --> 01:19:47.923
Can you see
if anybody is walking

1623
01:19:47.958 --> 01:19:50.288
in the DVR cameras downstairs?

1624
01:19:51.962 --> 01:19:53.995
-Nobody's walking.

1625
01:19:54.492 --> 01:19:57.933
Okay, so... timestamp.

1626
01:20:04.370 --> 01:20:05.501
You hear that?

1627
01:20:16.679 --> 01:20:20.120
Can you tell us
what road the house is on?

1628
01:20:22.487 --> 01:20:24.355
Is there a name
you like to go by?

1629
01:20:27.096 --> 01:20:29.899
What's the object
on the stairs that you move?

1630
01:20:35.665 --> 01:20:38.072
-out here.
-All right.

1631
01:20:43.673 --> 01:20:45.640
Pardon me, young lady.

1632
01:20:45.675 --> 01:20:46.982
<i>Is there a name</i>

1633
01:20:47.017 --> 01:20:48.214
<i>you like to go by?</i>

1634
01:20:50.152 --> 01:20:51.679
<i> What's</i>
<i>the object on the stairs</i>

1635
01:20:51.714 --> 01:20:52.988
<i>that you move?</i>

1636
01:20:54.959 --> 01:20:57.520
-Oh! Did you hear that?
-I did!

1637
01:20:57.555 --> 01:20:59.258
Oh, that's awesome!

1638
01:20:59.293 --> 01:21:01.260
Wow.

1639
01:21:01.295 --> 01:21:03.229
<i> What's</i>
<i>the object on the stairs</i>

1640
01:21:03.264 --> 01:21:03.963
<i>that you move?</i>

1641
01:21:03.998 --> 01:21:05.396
<i> Baseball.</i>

1642
01:21:05.431 --> 01:21:07.431
Oh! That's so good.

1643
01:21:08.269 --> 01:21:10.269
I think
he says "Baseball".

1644
01:21:10.304 --> 01:21:12.106
<i>Yeah, right?</i>

1645
01:21:12.504 --> 01:21:14.141
Crazy that
baseball was said.

1646
01:21:14.176 --> 01:21:15.670
Right. For sure.

1647
01:21:15.705 --> 01:21:18.475
How much is that
collectively us

1648
01:21:18.510 --> 01:21:19.575
-knowing?
-Right.

1649
01:21:20.149 --> 01:21:23.183
Maybe after
we charge it up,

1650
01:21:23.218 --> 01:21:25.020
we ask those
questions again.

1651
01:21:25.055 --> 01:21:26.681
-The same exact ones.
-Yeah.

1652
01:21:26.716 --> 01:21:28.221
And see
if there's a change.

1653
01:21:28.256 --> 01:21:29.651
And then maybe we should
throw in another question

1654
01:21:29.686 --> 01:21:31.323
that we don't know
the answer to.

1655
01:21:31.721 --> 01:21:34.997
I did bring an ion motor

1656
01:21:35.032 --> 01:21:36.559
that actually
creates and generates

1657
01:21:36.594 --> 01:21:38.132
its own
positive force field.

1658
01:21:38.167 --> 01:21:40.200
But it's a--
it's a pretty serious one.

1659
01:21:41.698 --> 01:21:43.500
Could be
potentially dangerous.

1660
01:21:43.535 --> 01:21:45.106
I don't know,

1661
01:21:45.141 --> 01:21:46.668
but I want to change
the environment.

1662
01:21:46.703 --> 01:21:48.208
I want to see
what it's like before.

1663
01:21:48.243 --> 01:21:50.408
And I want to see
if you induce anything else

1664
01:21:50.443 --> 01:21:53.642
in the environment,
if that also creates a change.

1665
01:21:53.677 --> 01:21:56.348
If activity increases.

1666
01:21:57.318 --> 01:21:58.251
I can smell it.

1667
01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:04.994
Can you tell me
what street this house is on?

1668
01:22:08.395 --> 01:22:10.626
Can you tell us the name
of the woman that lives here?

1669
01:22:10.661 --> 01:22:12.133
The woman
that built this house?

1670
01:22:15.270 --> 01:22:16.731
Can you
tell us what's going on

1671
01:22:16.766 --> 01:22:18.975
with the lights
inside this house?

1672
01:22:21.507 --> 01:22:24.376
What is the object
on the stairs that you move?

1673
01:22:26.776 --> 01:22:28.776
Two gentlemen
that have investigated here

1674
01:22:28.811 --> 01:22:31.350
for 12, 13, 14 years.

1675
01:22:32.221 --> 01:22:33.990
Do you know
either of their names?

1676
01:22:38.260 --> 01:22:40.491
<i>Can you tell me what street</i>

1677
01:22:40.526 --> 01:22:41.591
<i>this house is on?</i>

1678
01:22:45.135 --> 01:22:46.629
<i>Could you tell us the name--</i>

1679
01:22:46.664 --> 01:22:48.565
I think
he says "White Road."

1680
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.765
<i>Can you tell me what street</i>

1681
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:52.074
<i>this house is on?</i>

1682
01:22:55.409 --> 01:22:57.508
Yeah.
It says, "White Road."

1683
01:22:57.543 --> 01:22:58.773
<i>...what street</i>

1684
01:22:58.808 --> 01:23:00.049
<i>this house is on?</i>

1685
01:23:02.416 --> 01:23:03.646
-<i> White Road.</i>

1686
01:23:03.681 --> 01:23:04.779
<i> ...the name</i>

1687
01:23:04.814 --> 01:23:06.286
<i>of the woman that lives here?</i>

1688
01:23:06.321 --> 01:23:07.683
<i>-The woman that built house?</i>
-What?

1689
01:23:07.718 --> 01:23:09.157
<i> Can you tell us</i>
<i>the name of the</i>

1690
01:23:09.192 --> 01:23:10.323
<i>woman that lives here?</i>

1691
01:23:10.358 --> 01:23:11.724
<i>The woman</i>
<i>that built this house?</i>

1692
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:13.425
<i> Can</i>
<i>you tell us what's going on--</i>

1693
01:23:13.460 --> 01:23:14.393
Yikes.

1694
01:23:14.428 --> 01:23:15.790
<i>What is the object</i>

1695
01:23:15.825 --> 01:23:17.462
<i>on the stairs that you move?</i>

1696
01:23:19.301 --> 01:23:20.597
He just said,
"Ball" that time, yeah.

1697
01:23:20.632 --> 01:23:22.203
He just said, "Ball."

1698
01:23:22.238 --> 01:23:23.798
<i>Two gentlemen that have</i>

1699
01:23:23.833 --> 01:23:26.504
<i>investigated here</i>
<i>for 12, 13, 14 years.</i>

1700
01:23:26.539 --> 01:23:28.176
<i>Do you know</i>
<i>either of their names?</i>

1701
01:23:30.180 --> 01:23:31.443
Did he say, "Jack?"

1702
01:23:32.314 --> 01:23:33.577
So now we're going to do

1703
01:23:33.612 --> 01:23:35.117
something a little different

1704
01:23:35.152 --> 01:23:38.549
and we're going to
show you some cards.

1705
01:23:38.584 --> 01:23:40.155
Here is the first card.

1706
01:23:40.190 --> 01:23:41.486
Can you tell us
what you see?

1707
01:23:44.227 --> 01:23:46.425
We're going to show you
the second card.

1708
01:23:47.131 --> 01:23:48.526
Tell us what you see.

1709
01:23:51.135 --> 01:23:54.070
Is it a number
or is it a face card?

1710
01:23:57.207 --> 01:23:58.602
Here's the third card.

1711
01:24:01.607 --> 01:24:02.639
What color is it?

1712
01:24:04.874 --> 01:24:06.280
What number?

1713
01:24:09.714 --> 01:24:11.351
Putting down card three.

1714
01:24:13.751 --> 01:24:16.092
I'm going to show you
card four, now.

1715
01:24:18.492 --> 01:24:21.493
Can you tell me
what card Dustin is holding?

1716
01:24:27.897 --> 01:24:29.666
Putting down card four.

1717
01:24:29.701 --> 01:24:31.371
<i>Here is the first card.</i>

1718
01:24:31.406 --> 01:24:32.702
<i>Can you tell us</i>
<i>what you see?</i>

1719
01:24:35.443 --> 01:24:37.311
<i>We're going to show you</i>
<i>the second card.</i>

1720
01:24:37.346 --> 01:24:38.675
<i>Tell us what you see.</i>

1721
01:24:39.777 --> 01:24:41.645
I think he says it's four.

1722
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:43.746
<i>What color is it?</i>

1723
01:24:43.781 --> 01:24:45.550
<i>-What number?</i>

1724
01:24:45.585 --> 01:24:46.848
Six.

1725
01:24:46.883 --> 01:24:49.224
-It literally said, "Six."
-It's crazy.

1726
01:24:49.259 --> 01:24:50.621
<i>I'm going to show you</i>

1727
01:24:50.656 --> 01:24:52.227
<i>card four, now.</i>

1728
01:24:52.262 --> 01:24:54.229
<i>Can you tell me</i>
<i>what card Dustin is holding?</i>

1729
01:24:55.925 --> 01:24:57.496
Red ten?

1730
01:24:58.796 --> 01:25:01.236
But we got
to play this again because--

1731
01:25:01.271 --> 01:25:03.535
-This is ridiculous.
-Bizarre.

1732
01:25:04.868 --> 01:25:07.440
I've never had

1733
01:25:07.475 --> 01:25:09.178
a communication response like,

1734
01:25:09.213 --> 01:25:10.674
with this
blind study thing

1735
01:25:10.709 --> 01:25:12.346
that seemed
to go that well.

1736
01:25:12.381 --> 01:25:14.249
No, but let's
back off for a second

1737
01:25:14.284 --> 01:25:15.646
because
it wasn't just that.

1738
01:25:15.681 --> 01:25:17.285
Like at the end,

1739
01:25:17.320 --> 01:25:19.254
we re-asked
the same questions

1740
01:25:19.289 --> 01:25:21.619
-and we got clearer responses.
-Clearer answers.

1741
01:25:21.654 --> 01:25:22.686
Oh, crap.

1742
01:25:26.329 --> 01:25:28.164
Yeah.
White Road. Alice.

1743
01:25:28.496 --> 01:25:30.265
Said something
about their names.

1744
01:25:30.300 --> 01:25:31.596
I couldn't pick it up.
I thought it said, "Jack."

1745
01:25:32.500 --> 01:25:33.565
Jack.

1746
01:25:36.636 --> 01:25:38.471
Heard, "White Road."
I heard, "Alice."

1747
01:25:38.506 --> 01:25:39.934
-Oh, they did?
-I heard white--

1748
01:25:39.969 --> 01:25:41.606
They got "White Road,"
they got, "Alice."

1749
01:25:41.641 --> 01:25:43.509
White Road, damn.
That's where I live.

1750
01:25:43.544 --> 01:25:45.280
I mean, damn,
that's getting personal.

1751
01:25:46.580 --> 01:25:48.580
<i>Here's the third card.</i>

1752
01:25:48.615 --> 01:25:50.384
<i>What color is it?</i>

1753
01:25:50.419 --> 01:25:51.946
<i>-What number?</i>

1754
01:25:51.981 --> 01:25:54.520
Six.
That you hear very clearly.

1755
01:25:54.555 --> 01:25:57.325
-Six, six.
-Did he say, "Six?"

1756
01:25:57.360 --> 01:25:58.953
Getting direct
responses to the card--

1757
01:25:58.988 --> 01:26:00.021
.

1758
01:26:01.595 --> 01:26:03.529
<i>Here's the third card.</i>

1759
01:26:03.564 --> 01:26:05.432
<i>-What color is it?</i>

1760
01:26:05.467 --> 01:26:06.895
-<i> What number?</i>
-Red six.

1761
01:26:06.930 --> 01:26:08.600
Six.

1762
01:26:08.635 --> 01:26:09.964
<i>I'm going to show you</i>

1763
01:26:09.999 --> 01:26:11.306
<i>card four now.</i>

1764
01:26:11.341 --> 01:26:12.637
-That's so wild.
-This is insane.

1765
01:26:12.672 --> 01:26:14.309
<i>Can you tell me what card</i>

1766
01:26:14.344 --> 01:26:15.409
<i>-Dustin is holding?</i>

1767
01:26:15.444 --> 01:26:16.575
Red ten.

1768
01:26:16.610 --> 01:26:18.445
But you don't really
get the impact of it

1769
01:26:18.480 --> 01:26:21.481
because it's like-- you know,
there's a conscious being,

1770
01:26:21.516 --> 01:26:25.221
invisible-- invisible,
conscious being in your room.

1771
01:26:25.652 --> 01:26:27.322
I mean, really,
that's a little unnerving.

1772
01:26:27.357 --> 01:26:28.719
I mean, really,
you just go take a shower.

1773
01:26:28.754 --> 01:26:30.556
You think, "Who is
watching me take a shower?"

1774
01:26:30.591 --> 01:26:32.426
I mean, really, you do,
because something's there.

1775
01:26:32.461 --> 01:26:34.230
Some-- something's there.

1776
01:26:36.795 --> 01:26:37.959
Last time we got baseball,

1777
01:26:37.994 --> 01:26:39.433
which was great by itself.

1778
01:26:39.468 --> 01:26:40.929
-Right.
-But now it was

1779
01:26:40.964 --> 01:26:42.502
every question pretty much
had an answer, every card--

1780
01:26:42.537 --> 01:26:43.932
Even if we couldn't
make it out.

1781
01:26:43.967 --> 01:26:45.373
Yeah.

1782
01:26:45.408 --> 01:26:47.408
-The cards are wild, though.
-Yeah.

1783
01:26:47.443 --> 01:26:49.344
Yeah, like, it just--
it just blows my mind.

1784
01:26:49.379 --> 01:26:52.006
Of all the years doing this,
like I've never had--

1785
01:26:52.041 --> 01:26:53.975
I mean,
you're lucky if you get an EVP.

1786
01:26:54.010 --> 01:26:56.483
It's still pretty good.

1787
01:26:56.947 --> 01:26:59.915
So much more
could be found out,

1788
01:26:59.950 --> 01:27:01.785
explored,
experimented with.

1789
01:27:01.820 --> 01:27:04.887
You know, if we were
just open to the idea

1790
01:27:04.922 --> 01:27:07.428
of incorporating
science into the mix.

1791
01:27:07.463 --> 01:27:09.793
I think one of the nice things
about the Mississippi house

1792
01:27:09.828 --> 01:27:12.664
of Alice's house is
it allows for that to happen.

1793
01:27:13.095 --> 01:27:15.403
Because it's been
documented long enough

1794
01:27:15.438 --> 01:27:18.307
where it's not just
some crazy story.

1795
01:27:18.342 --> 01:27:20.507
I think that's the--
the nice thing about it.

1796
01:27:29.551 --> 01:27:30.616
Hello.

1797
01:27:30.915 --> 01:27:32.387
My name's Laurie McDonald.

1798
01:27:32.422 --> 01:27:34.389
I'm a certified
clinical hypnotherapist

1799
01:27:34.424 --> 01:27:37.953
at True You Hypnotherapy
in Sacramento, California.

1800
01:27:38.692 --> 01:27:41.462
So, you tell me
where you want me.

1801
01:27:41.497 --> 01:27:44.058
So my purpose
in coming here

1802
01:27:44.093 --> 01:27:46.863
is to facilitate a process

1803
01:27:46.898 --> 01:27:48.931
that will allow Alice

1804
01:27:48.966 --> 01:27:50.669
to feel that sense of ease

1805
01:27:50.704 --> 01:27:54.541
and to be able to take
possession of her own home.

1806
01:27:54.576 --> 01:27:59.579
♪

1807
01:28:01.451 --> 01:28:02.912
We'll begin

1808
01:28:02.947 --> 01:28:04.782
the way I always begin

1809
01:28:04.817 --> 01:28:07.554
by just having you
take some long, deep

1810
01:28:07.589 --> 01:28:09.985
rhythmic breaths
in through the nose

1811
01:28:10.020 --> 01:28:11.591
and out through the mouth.

1812
01:28:12.858 --> 01:28:14.121
And in a moment,

1813
01:28:14.156 --> 01:28:15.859
I'm going
to count backwards.

1814
01:28:16.697 --> 01:28:19.962
Ten, seven.
Twice as deep now.

1815
01:28:19.997 --> 01:28:23.471
On five, on three...

1816
01:28:24.606 --> 01:28:25.671
two...

1817
01:28:26.168 --> 01:28:27.607
and one.

1818
01:28:28.742 --> 01:28:30.709
We're going to go
back to a time

1819
01:28:30.744 --> 01:28:32.480
when you awoke

1820
01:28:32.515 --> 01:28:35.714
and saw
a very specific light.

1821
01:28:35.749 --> 01:28:36.946
See that now.

1822
01:28:38.488 --> 01:28:40.983
It-- it--
it came on with a--

1823
01:28:41.018 --> 01:28:43.557
With a flash
in an instant.

1824
01:28:44.021 --> 01:28:47.528
I just,
totally unexpected.

1825
01:28:48.630 --> 01:28:51.158
Everything else
in the room was black.

1826
01:28:51.193 --> 01:28:53.963
Total black.
Very black.

1827
01:28:55.769 --> 01:28:58.000
What if it turns toward me?
What happens?

1828
01:28:58.035 --> 01:28:59.804
I mean, it-- it--

1829
01:29:00.136 --> 01:29:01.674
And what is its purpose?

1830
01:29:06.516 --> 01:29:08.747
That-- I just
happened to be there.

1831
01:29:08.782 --> 01:29:11.684
I don't think it--
its intent was to appear to me.

1832
01:29:11.719 --> 01:29:14.786
Do you sense
in this light...

1833
01:29:15.525 --> 01:29:16.887
-intelligence?
-Uh-huh.

1834
01:29:18.220 --> 01:29:20.154
Not that
the light's conscious

1835
01:29:20.189 --> 01:29:21.628
but that the...

1836
01:29:22.664 --> 01:29:24.466
governing
of the light is.

1837
01:29:24.501 --> 01:29:25.995
So, the light's
coming from a source?

1838
01:29:26.030 --> 01:29:27.194
Yeah.

1839
01:29:27.229 --> 01:29:30.901
Just, uh--
just intelligence, like--

1840
01:29:31.200 --> 01:29:33.673
like intelligent, um...

1841
01:29:36.007 --> 01:29:38.513
beings, maybe a group.

1842
01:29:39.648 --> 01:29:43.584
Or something they're--
they're intently interested in.

1843
01:29:45.951 --> 01:29:47.753
Sense into the light

1844
01:29:47.788 --> 01:29:50.085
and try to sense

1845
01:29:50.120 --> 01:29:51.922
their intent.

1846
01:29:51.957 --> 01:29:56.993
♪

1847
01:30:02.770 --> 01:30:04.066
Whatever they were doing,

1848
01:30:04.101 --> 01:30:06.805
it seemed very important.

1849
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.808
It's like they were
all gathered around.

1850
01:30:13.176 --> 01:30:16.782
observing something
beneath the earth.

1851
01:30:17.521 --> 01:30:19.213
Who's the outcome
important to?

1852
01:30:19.248 --> 01:30:20.819
-To them.
-To them.

1853
01:30:22.625 --> 01:30:25.219
And is there
anything else

1854
01:30:25.254 --> 01:30:27.826
about this
particular light

1855
01:30:27.861 --> 01:30:30.928
that we need
to know about or you're...

1856
01:30:33.097 --> 01:30:34.635
pretty comfortable?

1857
01:30:38.608 --> 01:30:40.003
Yeah.
I'm-- I'm-- I'm--

1858
01:30:41.776 --> 01:30:44.942
Yeah, I think
the light was just a means,

1859
01:30:44.977 --> 01:30:47.813
that there was
no particular meaning.

1860
01:30:48.145 --> 01:30:50.112
I'm very,
very happy to hear that.

1861
01:30:50.147 --> 01:30:53.247
Because you are
removed from it

1862
01:30:53.282 --> 01:30:54.787
from this moment forward

1863
01:30:54.822 --> 01:30:56.723
and for the rest
of your life...

1864
01:30:57.286 --> 01:30:58.725
removed from it.

1865
01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:00.859
Through eliminating fear,

1866
01:31:00.894 --> 01:31:04.258
we're opening up
other avenues of energy,

1867
01:31:04.293 --> 01:31:05.897
like curiosity.

1868
01:31:06.295 --> 01:31:07.833
And that's much
healthier

1869
01:31:07.868 --> 01:31:10.297
and puts her in a place
of personal empowerment.

1870
01:31:10.332 --> 01:31:12.805
So, I want you to take
a really deep breath now.

1871
01:31:14.336 --> 01:31:17.513
-Just really exhale.

1872
01:31:18.241 --> 01:31:20.175
And I want you
to really feel

1873
01:31:20.210 --> 01:31:22.617
how good it is to know

1874
01:31:22.652 --> 01:31:25.048
that you don't have to be
afraid of that anymore.

1875
01:31:27.118 --> 01:31:28.249
And let it all go.

1876
01:31:31.353 --> 01:31:32.990
And how does that feel?

1877
01:31:35.632 --> 01:31:37.599
I-- I do feel, um,

1878
01:31:37.634 --> 01:31:40.195
separated more from it.

1879
01:31:40.230 --> 01:31:43.264
So, coming back
now on one,

1880
01:31:43.299 --> 01:31:45.937
two, taking a deep
breath on three.

1881
01:31:46.808 --> 01:31:48.973
Wiggling the toes on four.

1882
01:31:49.008 --> 01:31:51.646
-Uh-huh.
-Eyes open five.

1883
01:31:52.110 --> 01:31:54.616
-Okay.
-Very good.

1884
01:31:56.378 --> 01:31:58.246
I mean,
the ultimate goal here

1885
01:31:58.281 --> 01:32:00.787
is to get Alice
comfortable in the house,

1886
01:32:00.822 --> 01:32:02.283
to get her to stay here.

1887
01:32:02.318 --> 01:32:03.691
It would be awesome

1888
01:32:03.726 --> 01:32:05.121
if she could
live here full time.

1889
01:32:05.156 --> 01:32:06.320
But right now,

1890
01:32:06.355 --> 01:32:07.992
she's not
living here full time.

1891
01:32:08.027 --> 01:32:10.665
Obviously, she won't even
sleep here alone at night.

1892
01:32:10.700 --> 01:32:12.931
But I want to take it
in steps, if I can.

1893
01:32:12.966 --> 01:32:15.670
If we can get her
in the house for a night

1894
01:32:15.705 --> 01:32:17.232
and then
maybe that one night

1895
01:32:17.267 --> 01:32:18.805
will turn
into a few nights.

1896
01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:21.071
And maybe the few nights
will turn into a week.

1897
01:32:21.106 --> 01:32:22.369
That week
becomes a month

1898
01:32:22.404 --> 01:32:24.646
and now
she's in the house full time.

1899
01:32:24.681 --> 01:32:26.340
Tonight, anyway,

1900
01:32:26.375 --> 01:32:29.651
I wanted
to get your feeling...

1901
01:32:30.412 --> 01:32:33.215
uh, on-- on, uh--
on the house

1902
01:32:33.250 --> 01:32:35.382
and on
where we're sort of at.

1903
01:32:35.417 --> 01:32:37.351
Well,
we spoke to the team

1904
01:32:37.386 --> 01:32:40.189
and they're,
you know, on standby

1905
01:32:40.224 --> 01:32:42.290
in case
you're okay with this.

1906
01:32:42.325 --> 01:32:45.293
But we are wondering
if maybe tonight

1907
01:32:45.328 --> 01:32:46.833
might be
a night you might be

1908
01:32:46.868 --> 01:32:48.868
willing to sleep
in the house.

1909
01:32:48.903 --> 01:32:51.332
You know, I've actually
been thinking about that

1910
01:32:51.367 --> 01:32:53.169
since the hypnosis

1911
01:32:53.204 --> 01:32:54.973
because for some reason,

1912
01:32:55.008 --> 01:32:56.843
you know,
it wasn't what I expected.

1913
01:32:56.878 --> 01:32:59.340
I expected that I would
have to relive that experience

1914
01:32:59.375 --> 01:33:01.276
but it wasn't that at all.

1915
01:33:01.311 --> 01:33:03.377
You know,
it was actually

1916
01:33:03.412 --> 01:33:05.687
getting out
of that experience.

1917
01:33:05.722 --> 01:33:09.152
And so I feel like
I can watch it

1918
01:33:09.187 --> 01:33:10.384
from a distance.

1919
01:33:10.419 --> 01:33:11.924
-That's interesting.
-Yeah.

1920
01:33:11.959 --> 01:33:13.695
You know,
I'll sleep with my flashlight

1921
01:33:13.730 --> 01:33:15.290
and, um, I'm good.

1922
01:33:15.325 --> 01:33:17.160
-I'll-- I'll try to do it.
-You're thinking--

1923
01:33:17.195 --> 01:33:18.392
-Uh-huh.
-Really?

1924
01:33:18.427 --> 01:33:19.734
I think that
she knows that this is

1925
01:33:19.769 --> 01:33:21.736
the first step for her

1926
01:33:21.771 --> 01:33:24.266
to be able
to live in the house

1927
01:33:24.301 --> 01:33:26.906
and be able
to be here full time.

1928
01:33:26.941 --> 01:33:28.809
I don't necessarily
think that, you know,

1929
01:33:28.844 --> 01:33:30.745
the activity
is going to fully stop.

1930
01:33:30.780 --> 01:33:33.407
And if we weren't
able to ever get her

1931
01:33:33.442 --> 01:33:35.013
back inside the house,

1932
01:33:35.048 --> 01:33:37.686
I wouldn't
consider that a failure.

1933
01:33:37.721 --> 01:33:39.149
She has
so much more confidence

1934
01:33:39.184 --> 01:33:41.822
and I think that
that's a major stepping stone.

1935
01:33:48.061 --> 01:33:49.324
I'm on speed dial.

1936
01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:51.194
Oh, you're so sweet.
Thank you.

1937
01:33:51.229 --> 01:33:56.232
♪

1938
01:34:04.407 --> 01:34:06.308
I'll see you all
hopefully in the morning.

1939
01:34:06.343 --> 01:34:07.375
Okay.

1940
01:34:07.410 --> 01:34:12.846
♪

1941
01:34:20.423 --> 01:34:25.833
♪

1942
01:34:55.227 --> 01:35:00.263
♪

1943
01:35:11.243 --> 01:35:12.275
Oh, yeah.

1944
01:35:15.082 --> 01:35:20.118
♪

1945
01:35:26.929 --> 01:35:31.965
♪

1946
01:35:42.571 --> 01:35:44.978
You know,
she slept in the house.

1947
01:35:45.376 --> 01:35:46.474
She slept in the house.

1948
01:35:47.048 --> 01:35:48.916
In a decade,
she hadn't done that.

1949
01:35:48.951 --> 01:35:51.347
The thing I remember
is the next morning,

1950
01:35:51.382 --> 01:35:54.383
walking in the door
and just smelling coffee.

1951
01:35:55.122 --> 01:35:58.024
She was waking up,
making coffee in her house.

1952
01:35:58.059 --> 01:36:00.059
That just hit me
in a different way.

1953
01:36:00.094 --> 01:36:01.159
It was neat.

1954
01:36:07.233 --> 01:36:09.563
I think it's a natural
response sometimes

1955
01:36:09.598 --> 01:36:11.334
to be afraid
of what you can't explain.

1956
01:36:11.369 --> 01:36:13.600
You have a right to have
your feelings validated.

1957
01:36:13.635 --> 01:36:16.570
But you also,
if you truly want to

1958
01:36:16.605 --> 01:36:18.044
understand that fear,

1959
01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:19.573
you have to explore it.

1960
01:36:19.608 --> 01:36:21.883
You have to
walk through that fear.

1961
01:36:21.918 --> 01:36:23.885
You have to
confront your fear.

1962
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:25.117
Because something to remember

1963
01:36:25.152 --> 01:36:26.481
and I think
that's very important,

1964
01:36:26.516 --> 01:36:30.221
is sometimes
we don't acknowledge

1965
01:36:30.256 --> 01:36:31.585
our own personal power.

1966
01:36:31.620 --> 01:36:34.027
It's not easy

1967
01:36:34.062 --> 01:36:35.523
to change
the way we see things.

1968
01:36:35.558 --> 01:36:37.162
It's not easy
to change our perspective.

1969
01:36:37.197 --> 01:36:39.593
It takes practice,
it takes time, it takes work.

1970
01:36:40.101 --> 01:36:42.134
And this is our duty,
our responsibilities

1971
01:36:42.169 --> 01:36:44.103
and obligation
of being human.

1972
01:36:44.468 --> 01:36:46.072
This is what we do best.

1973
01:36:46.470 --> 01:36:47.535
We learn.

1974
01:36:47.570 --> 01:36:51.011
♪

1975
01:36:51.046 --> 01:36:52.078
Uh, you know,
Shakespeare said,

1976
01:36:52.113 --> 01:36:53.607
"To thine own self be true."

1977
01:36:53.642 --> 01:36:55.048
And then
that can't speak thoughts

1978
01:36:55.083 --> 01:36:57.347
to any man--
To your own self be true.

1979
01:36:57.382 --> 01:37:00.614
And it would have been
against my own truth

1980
01:37:00.649 --> 01:37:02.858
to have moved out
or to sell it.

1981
01:37:04.125 --> 01:37:06.620
What Kendall
and I set out to do

1982
01:37:06.655 --> 01:37:09.623
was to get Alice
back into her house.

1983
01:37:09.658 --> 01:37:11.999
And that happened.
She spent a night here.

1984
01:37:12.034 --> 01:37:13.869
And she woke up happy.

1985
01:37:15.004 --> 01:37:17.433
And Alice has turned
this whole thing...

1986
01:37:18.469 --> 01:37:19.633
to work for her.

1987
01:37:19.668 --> 01:37:22.977
And I just think
that is remarkable.

1988
01:37:23.012 --> 01:37:25.045
I think
her attitude is perfect.

1989
01:37:25.575 --> 01:37:27.608
And the fact
that she's already

1990
01:37:27.643 --> 01:37:30.017
making steps
to staying back in her home.

1991
01:37:30.052 --> 01:37:32.283
She's taking that fear away

1992
01:37:32.318 --> 01:37:35.220
and she's
replacing it with courage

1993
01:37:35.255 --> 01:37:37.893
and dedication
to getting answers.

1994
01:37:38.555 --> 01:37:41.556
She says she wants to further
the field and I think she has.

1995
01:37:42.130 --> 01:37:44.658
And I don't think
that's ever been done before.

1996
01:37:44.693 --> 01:37:47.067
So I'm kind of feeling like

1997
01:37:47.102 --> 01:37:49.234
this is the most thorough,

1998
01:37:49.269 --> 01:37:51.533
in-depth,
paranormal investigation

1999
01:37:51.568 --> 01:37:54.371
that has
ever been documented.

2000
01:37:54.406 --> 01:37:59.442
♪

2001
01:38:09.091 --> 01:38:11.355
And I say 'when," not "if,"

2002
01:38:11.390 --> 01:38:13.423
because that carriage
will come down.

2003
01:38:13.458 --> 01:38:14.523
You can mark my words.

2004
01:38:14.558 --> 01:38:15.557
I've been saying it before

2005
01:38:15.592 --> 01:38:16.965
you guys even got here

2006
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:18.296
and you're
going to hear it now.

2007
01:38:18.331 --> 01:38:20.133
I have no reason
to have the full confidence

2008
01:38:20.168 --> 01:38:21.662
but I do have
the full confidence.

2009
01:38:21.697 --> 01:38:23.334
The carriage
is coming down the stairs.

2010
01:38:25.734 --> 01:38:28.075
Any intelligent spirits
that are in the house.

2011
01:38:28.704 --> 01:38:30.737
Focus your energy
on that carriage

2012
01:38:30.772 --> 01:38:32.574
that I placed at the top
of the stairs and you have

2013
01:38:32.609 --> 01:38:35.951
our full permission
to push it down the stairs.

2014
01:38:36.745 --> 01:38:38.679
So, please
focus your energy.

2015
01:38:38.714 --> 01:38:41.088
I know you can
without a doubt,

2016
01:38:41.123 --> 01:38:43.156
and push that carriage
down the stairs.

2017
01:38:49.098 --> 01:38:50.328
-Good?
-Great job.

2018
01:38:50.363 --> 01:38:52.000
-All right.
-Wonderful job.

2019
01:38:52.035 --> 01:38:53.331
Carriage is coming down.

2020
01:38:53.366 --> 01:38:54.728
Let's, uh-- let's
just hold on,

2021
01:38:54.763 --> 01:38:56.268
uh, .

2022
01:39:04.113 --> 01:39:06.179
All right,
I'm going to arm it so...

2023
01:39:07.347 --> 01:39:08.379
30 on here.

2024
01:39:10.251 --> 01:39:11.448
-All right.

2025
01:39:11.483 --> 01:39:13.153
away. Exit now.

2026
01:39:38.081 --> 01:39:39.509
<i> Far away.</i>

2027
01:39:41.579 --> 01:39:46.615
♪

2028
01:40:16.647 --> 01:40:22.057
♪

2029
01:41:31.557 --> 01:41:36.593
♪

2030
01:42:11.564 --> 01:42:16.600
♪