WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:30.200 Oh, uh, I'd like to ask you, 4 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:33.880 how do you go about writing a life story? 5 00:00:35.480 --> 00:00:37.400 Because… 6 00:00:37.480 --> 00:00:40.280 …the true things rarely get into circulation. 7 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:42.600 It's usually the false things. 8 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:49.000 If you ever get any of those things you want to ask, I'll tell you. 9 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.200 All of those things come from the truth, you know? 10 00:00:54.800 --> 00:00:58.000 Because otherwise, it's hard to know where to start 11 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:00.600 if you don't start with the truth. 12 00:01:35.320 --> 00:01:38.160 After 20 years, it's time to clear up this case. 13 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:40.720 Monroe died from an overdose of sleeping pills. 14 00:01:40.800 --> 00:01:44.520 Speculation surrounding Monroe's death continues to this day. 15 00:01:47.520 --> 00:01:49.760 The charge is Marilyn Monroe was murdered. 16 00:01:52.600 --> 00:01:54.560 Someone in the CIA killed Monroe. 17 00:02:12.600 --> 00:02:13.880 She was very frightened. 18 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.440 There's a great myth around her. 19 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:28.360 I hope your phone is clean. 20 00:02:38.160 --> 00:02:40.240 Nobody ever knew everything. 21 00:04:35.880 --> 00:04:38.680 Marilyn Monroe, the Golden Girl of Hollywood. 22 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:42.120 The dazzling fame of Marilyn Monroe 23 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.800 delights the critics and attracts the public in swarms. 24 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.400 Marilyn Monroe was this era's sex symbol. 25 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.920 Marilyn Monroe trod the summit of her profession. 26 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:57.680 Something remarkable happened 27 00:04:57.760 --> 00:04:59.640 when she stepped before a camera. 28 00:05:21.840 --> 00:05:24.000 A queen in her own realm of entertainment. 29 00:05:24.080 --> 00:05:26.000 She was adored by millions. 30 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.240 A self-illuminating body, a star. 31 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.080 Tony, I have often said that I could put together 32 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:07.000 a scenario that would absolutely blow the minds of anybody who read it, 33 00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:11.280 but it would be terribly costly to government agencies, 34 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:13.600 friends of mine, to people I know. 35 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:15.680 - Yeah. -I don't think I want to do that. 36 00:06:17.320 --> 00:06:20.360 But I never talk to the press ever, ever, ever. 37 00:06:20.440 --> 00:06:22.880 But I can't say anything, and I knew it all. 38 00:06:25.520 --> 00:06:27.840 - Except it's a waste of your time. - Why? 39 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.400 I don't want to be the one who sets the record straight. 40 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.360 -But, I mean, I don't know you. - Fine. 41 00:06:35.440 --> 00:06:36.600 Let it be. 42 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.320 Hollywood, 43 00:07:08.400 --> 00:07:10.960 brilliant tinsel city of lights and fantasy. 44 00:07:12.080 --> 00:07:13.040 Hollywood, 45 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.560 glorified, glittering, fascinating, fabulous mythical kingdom. 46 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.120 Hollywood, the glamour capital of the world. 47 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:28.960 When I was a kid, and I remember at the movies on Saturday afternoon… 48 00:07:29.640 --> 00:07:32.760 Let's take a spin down the Boulevard and see what we can find! 49 00:07:32.840 --> 00:07:35.720 …I'd never come out of the movie. They'd have to come get me. 50 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.520 Ah, Garbo! 51 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.160 Bad, good, didn't matter. 52 00:07:41.880 --> 00:07:43.560 Hollywood's playground! 53 00:07:43.640 --> 00:07:45.800 Anything that would move on the screen. 54 00:07:45.880 --> 00:07:47.880 And here inside the gates, 55 00:07:47.960 --> 00:07:49.960 there's more stars than the Milky Way! 56 00:07:52.520 --> 00:07:54.840 If you don't believe it, just follow us! 57 00:07:56.200 --> 00:07:58.400 My favorite was Jean Harlow. 58 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.000 -She had white hair. - 59 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:02.960 The one and only Marlene Dietrich! 60 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:04.760 Cary Grant arrives with his best grin. 61 00:08:04.840 --> 00:08:07.520 As usual, Cary has a genial greeting for everybody! 62 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:08.600 And Clark Gable. 63 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:10.240 Clark walked into the forecourt… 64 00:08:10.320 --> 00:08:12.680 The crowd is still shouting for their favorite! 65 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.840 Although I was a kid and I didn't know anything about acting, 66 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:19.120 I… 67 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:23.440 I wanted to know. 68 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:39.080 Talking. 69 00:08:40.800 --> 00:08:41.680 Yup. 70 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.560 -Marilyn Monroe. I knew her very well. - You did? 71 00:08:49.640 --> 00:08:51.920 - I'm talking about in the beginning. - Yes. 72 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:53.960 - When she was a kid. - At that time-- 73 00:08:54.040 --> 00:08:58.480 Well, I was… Al Rosen Agency was one of the top agencies in the business. 74 00:08:58.560 --> 00:09:01.320 - Right. - I handled Cary Grant, Fredric March. 75 00:09:01.400 --> 00:09:03.760 -Jack Oakie, Judy Garland, you know. - Right. 76 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.480 But, you see, the history of this business is 77 00:09:06.560 --> 00:09:10.440 you got one thing, I'll guarantee it, which you didn't know about. 78 00:09:10.520 --> 00:09:13.360 -In this business, in the golden years… - Yeah. 79 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:17.760 …every casting director, every studio used to have a black book, 80 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:19.120 you know what I mean? 81 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:22.520 So, every girl, you know, I'm talking about kids that were breaking in, 82 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:25.680 like Marilyn Monroe, you know, when they get started, 83 00:09:25.760 --> 00:09:27.720 all the casting directors, 84 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:30.720 they would write in their black book who could be laid. 85 00:09:32.760 --> 00:09:35.320 You see, the business has changed since then. 86 00:09:35.400 --> 00:09:36.800 Today, it's the buck. 87 00:09:37.800 --> 00:09:40.440 It used to be sex. Remember that. 88 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.120 Calling all girls! Calling all girls! 89 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.160 And now, all those lovely hopefuls have their chance. 90 00:09:48.760 --> 00:09:52.200 The process of selecting just the right girls is a careful one. 91 00:09:52.280 --> 00:09:54.800 My, my, what a smart looking crowd. 92 00:09:54.880 --> 00:09:56.280 Isn't she a honey? 93 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:58.440 Isn't she sweet? 94 00:09:58.520 --> 00:10:00.040 Neck, 12 and a half. 95 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:01.760 Bust, 34 and a half. 96 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.160 Pride. Adventure. Ambition. 97 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:08.920 From the ends of the Earth they come, waiting for the magic call. 98 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:19.000 Hello? 99 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:20.800 How can I help you? 100 00:10:29.280 --> 00:10:32.960 Well, my husband knew her first, early '40s. 101 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:35.280 Oh, yes. 102 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:40.640 You know, a generous girl, warm girl, really rather lovable. 103 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:45.480 She was very much on the restaurant scene and the club scene. 104 00:10:45.560 --> 00:10:49.080 - But at Romanoff's. - Yeah. Enormous fun. 105 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:51.920 And it was quite exotic. 106 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:55.040 It had a real mélange of people, 107 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:59.800 and it was sort of the mecca for agents. 108 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.840 It had all of the film VIPs. 109 00:11:03.920 --> 00:11:06.720 -All the pretty girls hung out there. - Right. 110 00:11:06.800 --> 00:11:09.440 And Marilyn was among them, of course. 111 00:11:10.040 --> 00:11:11.400 So young is Hollywood 112 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.040 that many of its earliest pioneers are still active in the industry. 113 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.680 Men like Joseph Schenck, chairman of the board of 20th Century Fox. 114 00:11:18.760 --> 00:11:22.320 Mr. Schenck brought about an era of epic, dramatic screen stories. 115 00:11:25.880 --> 00:11:28.800 Oh, sure. Schenck was a human being. 116 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:30.520 -You know what I mean. - Yeah. 117 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.880 She had a bunch of 'em. He wasn't the only one. 118 00:11:33.760 --> 00:11:35.920 There were a group who gathered at Schenck's. 119 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.320 -She was always very much at his house. - Yeah. 120 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.360 And she was beginning to make a few strides. 121 00:11:55.560 --> 00:11:56.760 In 1948. 122 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:45.680 Johnny Hyde, 123 00:13:45.760 --> 00:13:48.720 who was a dear little man, wonderful little man… 124 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:51.240 -You know about him? - Yes. 125 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:54.040 - Johnny was in love with her. - Yeah. 126 00:14:01.880 --> 00:14:04.600 Johnny Hyde spoke to me about her first 127 00:14:04.680 --> 00:14:07.880 and then brought her over to Metro. 128 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.160 Just, uh, very fresh. 129 00:14:11.680 --> 00:14:13.920 Very attractive. 130 00:14:14.800 --> 00:14:16.160 Rather timid. 131 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:17.200 Shy. 132 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:22.080 And, um we talked to her and gave her a script. 133 00:14:23.520 --> 00:14:27.000 She went away and came back a day or two later, 134 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:29.720 and, well, Marilyn read her lines, 135 00:14:29.800 --> 00:14:33.600 and she read them very beautifully, very well. 136 00:14:33.680 --> 00:14:35.040 And there was no question. 137 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.480 She was ideal for the part. 138 00:14:36.560 --> 00:14:39.000 - In The Asphalt Jungle? -Yes, indeed. 139 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:40.080 That was that. 140 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:43.680 Only once in a decade does the screen come up with 141 00:14:43.760 --> 00:14:45.400 such absorbing characters. 142 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:49.680 Marilyn Monroe as Angela, the easy-living, green-eyed blonde. 143 00:14:51.880 --> 00:14:57.720 Marilyn went right down into her own personal experience 144 00:14:58.760 --> 00:14:59.960 for everything. 145 00:15:00.560 --> 00:15:03.880 She would reach down and pull something out of herself 146 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:07.160 that was unique and extraordinary. 147 00:15:08.040 --> 00:15:12.600 She found things about womankind in herself. 148 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.040 She had no technique. 149 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:17.520 It was all the truth. 150 00:15:19.560 --> 00:15:24.280 It was only Marilyn, but she was Marilyn plus. 151 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.520 An award to the popular new star. 152 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.560 And as best young box office personality, Miss Marilyn Monroe. 153 00:15:33.640 --> 00:15:34.760 Thank you, Mr. Nichols. 154 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:40.240 It's Marilyn Monroe, skyrocketing to new dramatic heights. 155 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:47.960 Marilyn Monroe, all the moviegoers of America voted you 156 00:15:48.040 --> 00:15:51.480 the most popular actress of the year. My congratulations. 157 00:15:52.280 --> 00:15:53.520 Thank you, Mr. Sammis. 158 00:15:54.640 --> 00:15:57.320 -Congratulations! -Thank you, Lauren. 159 00:15:57.400 --> 00:15:59.280 And my thanks to Look magazine. 160 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.480 A Hollywood incident that marks another salute 161 00:16:03.560 --> 00:16:04.560 to Marilyn Monroe. 162 00:16:04.640 --> 00:16:06.560 Thank you. I thank you very much. 163 00:16:09.800 --> 00:16:11.560 And now here comes a young lady who has 164 00:16:11.640 --> 00:16:13.800 created a real sensation in the picture business, 165 00:16:13.880 --> 00:16:17.720 having won all kinds of awards as the number one newcomer of the year. 166 00:16:17.800 --> 00:16:19.760 And believe me, a swell gal with a… 167 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:22.880 Take it from me, I've known her a long time, Miss Marilyn Monroe! 168 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.200 Let's hear it! Come on out here, Marilyn! 169 00:16:31.680 --> 00:16:34.200 With Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell. 170 00:16:41.680 --> 00:16:42.880 Yes. 171 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.200 She was very bright, and she wanted to learn 172 00:16:52.280 --> 00:16:55.200 and was interested in everything to, 173 00:16:55.280 --> 00:16:59.320 -you know, help her control her career. - Right. 174 00:16:59.400 --> 00:17:02.680 And every night after work, she would go to the coach. 175 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.200 - Yes. - We were going home exhausted. 176 00:17:06.280 --> 00:17:07.760 She'd go to the coach. 177 00:17:07.840 --> 00:17:09.680 But she wanted to be good. 178 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:11.520 Then when… 179 00:17:12.560 --> 00:17:18.080 …the camera went on, it was like a whole electric light went on in the, you know… 180 00:17:19.080 --> 00:17:20.800 They just came to life. 181 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.480 I just felt like I was on the outside of the world, 182 00:17:44.560 --> 00:17:46.760 and suddenly everything opened up. 183 00:17:48.520 --> 00:17:51.680 The world became friendly. It opened up to me. 184 00:17:57.080 --> 00:17:59.440 I said, "Gee, what happened?" 185 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:05.000 If I am a star, the people made me a star. 186 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.320 But I do want to be wonderful, you know. 187 00:18:25.600 --> 00:18:28.760 I want to do the best that I can do in that moment. 188 00:18:30.840 --> 00:18:33.200 When the camera starts until it stops. 189 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.120 That moment I want to be… perfect. 190 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:56.480 I'll tell you, 191 00:18:57.080 --> 00:18:58.680 I'm terribly grateful 192 00:18:59.960 --> 00:19:01.280 because I remember when… 193 00:19:03.280 --> 00:19:04.920 things weren't like this at all. 194 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.080 I saw her a time or two. 195 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:15.400 -Years had gone by. - Yeah. 196 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.880 By now she was dressed to the T's, and she'd become the… 197 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:26.920 The sex symbol of this country. 198 00:19:28.040 --> 00:19:31.960 And it wasn't… It wasn't just a sex thing at all. 199 00:19:32.040 --> 00:19:33.920 Women felt just the same as men. 200 00:19:35.840 --> 00:19:39.600 There was something deeply moving about Marilyn, always. 201 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.880 We were close during the picture, 202 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:47.560 and then we were… we, you know, considered ourselves friends, 203 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:50.800 but Marilyn kind of went from one group to another. 204 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.680 She would take off, and it would be another group. 205 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.240 That would become the shell for a time. 206 00:19:59.320 --> 00:20:02.800 She didn't go back and seek out any of the people 207 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:05.680 that had become close to her. 208 00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:12.280 There was something so vulnerable, so… 209 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:15.360 Something you felt 210 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:18.400 could be easily destroyed. 211 00:21:57.720 --> 00:21:59.240 - Hello? - Hi. 212 00:22:08.320 --> 00:22:11.920 Well, I hated Hollywood. My family knew enough Hollywood people. 213 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.960 You know, I had, at times, met movie stars at parties 214 00:22:16.040 --> 00:22:18.720 and found the whole thing to be obnoxious. 215 00:22:18.800 --> 00:22:23.400 My notion was these people were… were phoneys and narcissistic characters. 216 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:24.440 I hated 'em. 217 00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:26.560 So when I heard that Dad was seeing Marilyn, 218 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:29.280 I was not jumping up and down and cheering. 219 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:32.600 He couldn't see her at the office. She was too goddamn famous. 220 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:35.720 He was seeing her at home. I thought, "What a bunch of bullshit." 221 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.520 I mean, here's the sex symbol of the world. 222 00:22:38.600 --> 00:22:41.560 Here is, you know, what womanhood should be in a nutshell. 223 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:51.160 I mean, there was something about Marilyn 224 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.400 -that put her apart from everybody else. - Yeah. 225 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:57.280 But there were times, you know, that I would pick her up in my Hillman Minx, 226 00:22:57.360 --> 00:22:59.600 -you know, and… - Yeah. 227 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:04.800 Marilyn without makeup and a scarf over her hair and just sitting there, 228 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.880 you know, you wouldn't think would attract any kind of attention, 229 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:12.640 and yet, you know, I would suddenly have five people washing my windows. 230 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:14.720 -But there was just something. - Yeah. 231 00:23:14.800 --> 00:23:15.960 It happened to me too. 232 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:18.760 No! No! 233 00:23:18.840 --> 00:23:22.360 There was an at-homeness with her body 234 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:26.240 that very… I have never seen anybody else have. 235 00:23:26.320 --> 00:23:29.240 To be sort of almost animallike 236 00:23:29.320 --> 00:23:32.320 in their feel and their movement and… 237 00:23:33.560 --> 00:23:36.600 You know, beautiful and very, in a sense, poetic. 238 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.280 And I'm not calling myself an orphan. 239 00:24:46.360 --> 00:24:47.960 I was brought up a waif. 240 00:24:50.600 --> 00:24:53.080 Yeah, I was never used to being happy. 241 00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.320 So that wasn't something I was sort of counting on. 242 00:25:09.800 --> 00:25:11.600 In all the years he'd been doing that, 243 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.000 my father had never had a patient commit suicide. 244 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:17.360 He never treated anybody as unorthodoxly as he was treating her. 245 00:25:18.120 --> 00:25:22.040 His feeling was that because of who she was, she could never be hospitalized. 246 00:25:22.120 --> 00:25:24.520 So given that he couldn't do that, 247 00:25:24.600 --> 00:25:26.320 his feeling was the best shot he had 248 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.320 was to try to treat her in this highly unusual, 249 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:31.440 unorthodox kind of way that he did. 250 00:25:31.520 --> 00:25:33.080 She starts hanging out with the family. 251 00:25:33.600 --> 00:25:38.720 That's how a sort of more of a friendliness then came about. 252 00:25:39.560 --> 00:25:41.520 Before dinner, they would have cocktails. 253 00:25:41.600 --> 00:25:45.760 And that would be where the sort of predinner conversation would go on. 254 00:25:45.840 --> 00:25:49.240 She had a… a mind that searched 255 00:25:49.320 --> 00:25:54.920 and an honest mind that tried to find whatever her truths were. 256 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.200 It must have been somewhere along the line 257 00:25:58.280 --> 00:26:00.000 that I began to talk to her. 258 00:26:00.080 --> 00:26:04.520 And it was in that particular setting that I slowly but surely got to know her, 259 00:26:04.600 --> 00:26:07.360 because I certainly know that my opinion changes. 260 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.960 Within that family, I was the new arrived left-winger. 261 00:26:11.040 --> 00:26:13.720 So, but we'd get into these conversations, 262 00:26:13.800 --> 00:26:16.360 and lo and behold, you know, Marilyn would end up on my side. 263 00:26:17.040 --> 00:26:19.080 - Right. - So a friendship developed. 264 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.680 I began to like her and to recognize that there was more to this person 265 00:26:22.760 --> 00:26:25.200 than, uh… than met the eye. 266 00:26:26.120 --> 00:26:30.200 Well, Marilyn told me that there was a new man in her life. 267 00:26:32.760 --> 00:26:35.640 No, that he was just, you know… you know, really terrific. 268 00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:37.960 -Neat. -And he was really neat 269 00:26:38.040 --> 00:26:39.520 and, you know, cute and… 270 00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:41.960 I mean, it was that kind of… I mean, I remember-- 271 00:26:42.040 --> 00:26:43.840 -It was girly talk. - It was girly talk. 272 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.160 I mean, the… 273 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:49.240 She said that this person was so important that she wouldn't tell me who it was. 274 00:26:50.320 --> 00:26:51.840 Calling him "the general." 275 00:26:54.360 --> 00:26:56.000 She was calling him "the general." 276 00:26:58.200 --> 00:26:59.920 -The general. - 277 00:27:11.320 --> 00:27:13.840 And I remember feeling that it was real… 278 00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:17.880 You know, it was real peculiar that here I'm sitting with Marilyn Monroe. 279 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.680 We're talking about boyfriends, and I'm meeting some schlub at art school. 280 00:27:21.760 --> 00:27:25.800 I know that she's talking about somebody that's very big in the government. 281 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.200 And… and it sort of struck me as… 282 00:27:28.280 --> 00:27:31.160 - Somehow this is bizarre. - You mean, you knew already-- 283 00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.520 So I didn't know whether it was Bobby or the president. 284 00:27:34.600 --> 00:27:36.720 - Yeah. - It was simply titillating. 285 00:27:36.800 --> 00:27:39.920 I mean, I don't even remember the guy I had a crush on back then, 286 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.440 but it was certainly somebody that wasn't gonna hold a candle to that. 287 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:48.520 Yeah. 288 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.960 There was more to this person than met the eye. 289 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:08.640 Family. 290 00:28:12.760 --> 00:28:14.120 The general. 291 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.600 This person was so important. 292 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.560 Joe DiMaggio! Smacked one out of the park! 293 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.000 What a hit! Into the upper deck in left center field! 294 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.520 He was a wonderful athlete. 295 00:28:52.120 --> 00:28:53.800 DiMaggio connects. 296 00:28:56.600 --> 00:28:59.320 I met him… he had already retired. 297 00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:11.640 I had very few friends. 298 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:15.840 It's just that 299 00:29:16.760 --> 00:29:18.920 I like people, 300 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.800 but for friends, I like few people. 301 00:29:28.080 --> 00:29:31.560 But I think she was quite taken with DiMaggio. 302 00:29:32.520 --> 00:29:37.040 I saw him for around a year and a half, two years, and we married. 303 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.360 Romance that thrills the world! 304 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.360 The marriage of Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio. 305 00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:48.840 The girl who starred in How to Marry a Millionaire, 306 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.520 giving another starring performance in How to Marry a Baseball Hero, 307 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.600 and now the pair are off for their happy honeymoon. 308 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.840 He understood some things about me, and… 309 00:30:06.280 --> 00:30:08.520 I understood some things about him. 310 00:30:12.600 --> 00:30:14.520 We based our marriage on it. 311 00:30:16.800 --> 00:30:18.360 And I say some things. 312 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.880 How have you and Mrs. DiMaggio enjoyed your trip to Japan? 313 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.800 Everything has been fine. We've enjoyed our trip. 314 00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:34.000 The only thing that I have to complain about is I haven't seen much of Marilyn. 315 00:30:35.520 --> 00:30:37.520 She is making a trip to Korea, 316 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.720 touring through the camps and so, 317 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.680 maybe after that we'll be able to spend a little time together. 318 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.440 I mean, I really don't think they had a lot in common. 319 00:30:58.040 --> 00:31:03.200 I think she was very touched by his genuine concern for her. 320 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.440 But then quite soon bored… 321 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.080 with his over-possessiveness. 322 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.560 Well, we're here to make The Seven Year Itch. 323 00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:15.360 - That's your latest picture? -Yes. 324 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.600 I'm looking forward to working in it very much. 325 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.120 I hear that you're getting to be quite a cook too. 326 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.400 Joe says you can really broil a mean steak. 327 00:31:23.080 --> 00:31:24.320 Well, I'm learning. 328 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.960 A little slow, but… 329 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:28.520 Okay. 330 00:31:49.760 --> 00:31:52.560 We were shooting Seven Year Itch with Marilyn Monroe. 331 00:31:58.840 --> 00:32:00.760 And do you remember that famous shot? 332 00:32:01.280 --> 00:32:03.960 Do you remember the wind that is lifting her skirt? 333 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.520 Do you feel the breeze from the subway? 334 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.880 Isn't it delicious? 335 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.360 Oh! Here comes another one! 336 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.200 Well, we were all set up to shoot that scene, you know. 337 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.760 There were five and ultimately 10,000 people. 338 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.680 They were like, uh… and look up Marilyn's skirt. 339 00:32:31.840 --> 00:32:32.880 And… 340 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.280 people were heckling from the sidelines, 341 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.560 and people were running up for autographs. 342 00:32:44.560 --> 00:32:46.480 I did Seven Year Itch. 343 00:32:55.360 --> 00:32:57.320 Yeah. Joe got very upset about it. 344 00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.720 - Did he really or was that-- - Really! 345 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.840 Joe DiMaggio, you know, he was watching it, 346 00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:05.440 and he didn't like it very much, 347 00:33:05.520 --> 00:33:08.480 his wife making a spectacle of herself. 348 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.440 They had a suite in a real old, beautiful hotel. 349 00:33:16.760 --> 00:33:20.600 -And he… beat her up a little bit. - Huh. 350 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.440 Marilyn said that she screamed and yelled for us. 351 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.200 But we couldn't hear her through those thick walls, you know. 352 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.960 - It was more on her shoulders. - Yeah. 353 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.440 But with a little makeup and everything, she went ahead and worked. 354 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.040 Our marriage wasn't a happy one. It ended in, 355 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.040 uh, nine months, 356 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:48.480 unfortunately. 357 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.400 I don't know what else to say. 358 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.640 All I can say as her attorney is that 359 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.720 this is what we would say was a conflict of careers. 360 00:34:04.800 --> 00:34:06.880 Has Joe moved out finally? 361 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.480 - Okay, Jerry! -I'm sorry. I have to go. 362 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:24.360 My dad had told me… 363 00:34:26.120 --> 00:34:28.240 that she got depressed at times. 364 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.920 About how terrible she felt about herself. 365 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.680 "Nothing would ever turn out right." 366 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.160 "Nothing would go my way." 367 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.360 How do you feel about coming back to Hollywood? 368 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.120 A happy time for you-- 369 00:34:47.200 --> 00:34:50.000 Yes, it is. It's a very happy time. I'm happy to be back. 370 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.000 -In my hometown. - Yes. 371 00:34:53.080 --> 00:34:54.840 Well, you're a happy girl now? 372 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.160 And she talked about this whole litany of depressive thought. 373 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:03.080 "Nobody likes me." 374 00:35:04.120 --> 00:35:06.200 "Everything I do turns to shit." 375 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:08.280 "I don't have anybody." 376 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:11.000 "I'm a waif." 377 00:35:11.720 --> 00:35:13.480 Marilyn, all we know in New York 378 00:35:13.560 --> 00:35:16.520 is that you and Joe DiMaggio are friends at a distance. 379 00:35:16.600 --> 00:35:17.960 How great a distance? 380 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.320 Well, we haven't seen each other. 381 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.360 Do you hear from each other? Do you write or talk? 382 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.800 -Um, I'd rather not answer. - All right, fine. 383 00:35:54.120 --> 00:35:56.680 Well, when I was put in the orphans' home, 384 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.480 they pulled me, and I kept crying and screaming, "I'm not an orphan." 385 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.040 I called every woman I would see, I'd say, "There's a mama." 386 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.880 If I would see a man, I'd say, "There's a daddy." 387 00:36:17.080 --> 00:36:19.800 I don't think I have really too much to say about it except 388 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.000 I… I liked her, and… 389 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:25.360 and we'd talk a lot. 390 00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:35.080 I was at the Strasbergs' parties with her a lot. 391 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.920 She… she seemed a little bit, um… 392 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.240 She seemed concerned about, uh, 393 00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.120 you know, like childhood memories of… 394 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.880 of being molested as a child, things like that. 395 00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.800 She talked about that, I remember. 396 00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.800 She felt that she had avoided… 397 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.280 That she knew people who were psychotic from such episodes, 398 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.360 and she felt that at least she'd survived that. 399 00:37:28.520 --> 00:37:32.600 - - I was a very, very close friend 400 00:37:33.520 --> 00:37:35.360 and was friends to the end. 401 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.840 She wanted to know her father so badly. 402 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.080 I remember a party and this game we'd play. 403 00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:56.000 Everybody said what they'd want most in the world. 404 00:37:57.160 --> 00:38:00.480 And she said she'd want to put on a black wig, 405 00:38:00.560 --> 00:38:02.480 pick up her father at a bar, 406 00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:05.400 have him make love to her, 407 00:38:06.520 --> 00:38:11.240 and then she'd say, "Well, how does it feel now to have a daughter 408 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:13.600 that you've made love to?" 409 00:38:15.600 --> 00:38:18.200 We all need to get out of childhood in one piece, 410 00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:22.000 but if nowhere along the line did you get that sort of reinforcement 411 00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:25.480 that you are worth love, you're lovable, that there's something in you, 412 00:38:25.560 --> 00:38:27.080 that we're a good person, 413 00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:29.720 what you end up with is a sort of emptiness. 414 00:38:54.680 --> 00:38:56.880 We were friends prior to the marriage. 415 00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.160 Many years before that. 416 00:39:04.680 --> 00:39:08.040 See, my father owned half of Republic Studios at one time. 417 00:39:08.120 --> 00:39:10.360 -So I grew up with these people. - Uh-huh. 418 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:14.280 But, uh, I think the greatest effect of all was Arthur Miller. 419 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:16.720 Yes. 420 00:39:18.080 --> 00:39:20.080 The Arthur Miller situation. 421 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.760 How long have you known Miss Monroe, Mr. Miller? 422 00:39:38.560 --> 00:39:42.000 I met her a long time ago, but I hadn't seen her in years. 423 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.440 But I think I've got the woman who is going to be my wife. 424 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.600 - You mean Marilyn Monroe? -That's correct. 425 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.800 When are you planning to have children? 426 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.920 Well, I'm not married yet, dear. 427 00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:57.960 This is a personal question. 428 00:39:58.040 --> 00:40:01.080 Is there anything in particular about Mr. Miller that attracted you? 429 00:40:01.160 --> 00:40:02.600 -Have you seen him? - Yes. 430 00:40:03.160 --> 00:40:04.160 -Yes! - 431 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.400 I think she was quite intrigued by people she thought to be bright. 432 00:40:29.520 --> 00:40:31.360 That would have been my impression. 433 00:40:38.680 --> 00:40:41.960 What I'd like to accomplish, I would like to be a good actress. 434 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.000 A true actress. An artist, with integrity. 435 00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:58.520 She had very strong goals for herself. 436 00:40:59.560 --> 00:41:01.400 She was so bright about acting. 437 00:41:03.680 --> 00:41:07.400 She'd come over, sit with me at the Studio and things like that. 438 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.880 She'd figure out what she wanted to do with the scene. 439 00:41:12.120 --> 00:41:14.040 She really… she really cared. 440 00:41:15.080 --> 00:41:19.400 I think love and work are the only things that really happen to us. 441 00:41:22.120 --> 00:41:24.840 Arthur Miller thought she was intelligent 442 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.200 and had a brain that was never cultivated. 443 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.760 And that's where he courted her. 444 00:41:35.720 --> 00:41:37.880 - That's correct. - 445 00:41:57.600 --> 00:42:01.120 Ms. Monroe, could you tell us what kind of a wedding you're gonna have? 446 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:03.480 Very quiet, I hope. 447 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.000 Studio. 448 00:43:55.080 --> 00:43:57.520 - Can I speak to Milton Greene? - Speaking. 449 00:44:11.560 --> 00:44:15.000 Close friend and associate. We loved each other, period. 450 00:44:23.040 --> 00:44:25.960 She was. She really was. She wanted a baby. 451 00:44:26.040 --> 00:44:28.480 In fact, during Prince and the Showgirl, 452 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:31.800 she said, when it's over, she's gonna go home and have a baby. 453 00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:33.600 And I said, "Well, great." 454 00:44:33.680 --> 00:44:36.400 "Get the white picket fence, and I think it's a good idea." 455 00:44:43.080 --> 00:44:45.840 If you gave her a choice between children and stardom, 456 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:47.320 it would have been children… 457 00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:49.920 without question. 458 00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.360 There were some photographs, 459 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.480 I think it was a picture of her and Miller's father. 460 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:03.320 And she said to me, 461 00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.400 "This is my happiest period." 462 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.000 And I asked her why. 463 00:45:07.080 --> 00:45:09.760 She showed me the picture and said, "I was pregnant then." 464 00:45:10.680 --> 00:45:16.840 Yes, she was pregnant by Miller during Some Like It Hot. 465 00:45:35.240 --> 00:45:36.760 If you watched her 466 00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.200 in the picture that I worked with her on called Some Like It Hot… 467 00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.280 - Right. One of my favorites. - She was so wonderful. 468 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:53.720 All the way through. 469 00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.040 - From the start? Gosh. -Yes. 470 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:04.160 She had a very naive quality about her, very soft, gentle quality. 471 00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:15.800 That's the way she could be, you see. 472 00:46:18.720 --> 00:46:22.960 That's the way she was, not could be. She was evanescent. 473 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:27.040 -♪ To anything higher… ♪ -And I… 474 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:32.480 Well, uh, she wasn't happy many times, Mr. Summers. 475 00:46:32.560 --> 00:46:34.080 I… I remember… 476 00:46:53.040 --> 00:46:56.920 Everything connects in a person's life, particularly hers, you know? 477 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:58.120 And it's sad. 478 00:47:00.240 --> 00:47:04.040 She was slightly discombobulated at all times. 479 00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.200 But by God, when you suffered through that scene, 480 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.760 through the 30, 40, 50 takes sometimes, 481 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:11.480 you had something there, you know. 482 00:47:11.560 --> 00:47:14.640 Something absolutely unique that cannot be duplicated. 483 00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:17.920 I had no problem with Monroe. Monroe had problems with Monroe. 484 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.000 She had problems with herself. 485 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.320 I can give you the reason for that one. 486 00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.120 But I can't say anything. And I knew it all. 487 00:47:27.080 --> 00:47:28.080 I'm awfully sorry. 488 00:47:28.160 --> 00:47:32.280 You sound very nice, but I really… It makes me unhappy to talk about it. 489 00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:33.480 It really does. 490 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.800 - You know you-- - She's been gone 20 years… 491 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.360 - Oh yes. -…Mr. Summers. 492 00:47:40.200 --> 00:47:43.000 I can't bring myself to talk about it. 493 00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:53.480 Just being able to be 494 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:55.960 another human being, 495 00:47:56.640 --> 00:47:58.520 to be someplace… 496 00:48:02.080 --> 00:48:04.920 Having certain kinds of secrets for yourself. 497 00:48:07.080 --> 00:48:11.960 There is a need for aloneness, you know? 498 00:48:25.680 --> 00:48:29.520 I was aware from the-- Yes, I was aware from the beginning. 499 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.240 And I saw there was something that she was… 500 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.760 She was not the fresh little girl that I'd known originally. 501 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.760 Very soon we were aware that she was a problem. 502 00:48:41.520 --> 00:48:45.240 She'd be late on the set always. 503 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:48.680 Sometimes the whole morning would go by. 504 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.880 Sometimes she'd be all right. 505 00:48:51.520 --> 00:48:55.480 Occasionally, she'd be practically non compos mentis. 506 00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.360 The narcotics were the problem. 507 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:23.120 I discovered this in the course of the picture. 508 00:49:24.720 --> 00:49:27.120 I remember saying to Miller one day… 509 00:49:28.560 --> 00:49:32.880 I said, you know, that if she went on at the rate that she was going, 510 00:49:33.560 --> 00:49:38.640 why, she'd be in an institution in two or three years, or dead! 511 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.640 And I said anyone who allows her to take a drug ought to be shot. 512 00:49:46.080 --> 00:49:48.960 It was almost an accusation against him. 513 00:49:49.040 --> 00:49:51.640 An indictment against Miller. 514 00:49:56.680 --> 00:49:58.600 At the end of the shooting of Misfits. 515 00:50:08.680 --> 00:50:09.880 Happiness… 516 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:16.680 Does one ever know that? 517 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:43.640 Marilyn! 518 00:50:52.040 --> 00:50:53.440 Marilyn! 519 00:50:58.120 --> 00:50:59.680 I feel wonderful. Thank you. 520 00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:49.560 Here she was now, again divorced and terribly lonely. 521 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.000 That's when the Kennedys came back in there. 522 00:52:02.680 --> 00:52:04.520 - Right. - 523 00:52:04.600 --> 00:52:07.000 - Were you aware of that? - Oh, yes. 524 00:52:07.080 --> 00:52:11.440 But Jack, that started in the early and mid '50s. 525 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:14.840 -Yes! - Uh-huh. 526 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.440 Oh, of course it did. 527 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.800 He'd been out here on and off all through the '50s. 528 00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.400 'Cause he had lots of friends here, you know, 529 00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.800 spending lots of time, you know. 530 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.240 - He used the Malibu Inn. - Yes. 531 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:35.080 - And drank at the Malibu Cottage. - Uh-huh. 532 00:52:35.160 --> 00:52:38.480 The raunchiest looking thing you've ever seen in your life. 533 00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:46.080 -Oh yeah, because Jack wasn't known… - Yeah. 534 00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:47.040 …here at all. 535 00:52:47.120 --> 00:52:49.960 He was a senator. He was totally unknown here. 536 00:52:50.040 --> 00:52:52.960 I, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, do solemnly swear… 537 00:52:53.040 --> 00:52:56.480 No one ever expected Jack to become the president or the nominee. 538 00:52:56.560 --> 00:53:00.120 …and I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States. 539 00:53:00.200 --> 00:53:02.000 And will to the best of your ability… 540 00:53:02.080 --> 00:53:06.080 He's just some smart-ass rich kid's son that became senator. 541 00:53:06.160 --> 00:53:10.280 Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. 542 00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:11.560 So help you God. 543 00:53:11.640 --> 00:53:12.920 So help me God. 544 00:53:19.080 --> 00:53:20.080 After Jack. 545 00:53:26.160 --> 00:53:27.400 Ah, yes. 546 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:29.240 Yes. 547 00:53:33.160 --> 00:53:34.600 But, in '61, 548 00:53:35.120 --> 00:53:41.640 the meeting headquarters was at Pete Lawford's house 549 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:43.520 in Malibu. 550 00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.320 Just the things that were going on in that beach house. 551 00:54:34.200 --> 00:54:36.280 Not discreet at all. 552 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:40.480 Of course, there was nothing discreet about any of the Kennedys either. 553 00:54:47.120 --> 00:54:50.360 Mm-hmm. I mean, it was just mind-boggling. 554 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:56.840 Peter would obviously be, you know, sort of pimping for both Kennedys. 555 00:54:57.560 --> 00:55:00.440 They would do it just as soon in front of anybody. 556 00:55:00.520 --> 00:55:02.920 Yeah, their wives could be in the other room, 557 00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:05.680 and many times were, you know. 558 00:55:08.040 --> 00:55:10.760 Yeah. I mean, I've had a hand up my breasts. 559 00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.920 The president owned it. 560 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:17.480 Yeah. 561 00:55:17.560 --> 00:55:20.040 Not in the terms that Jack was. 562 00:55:20.120 --> 00:55:23.840 They were tacky, they were corny, they were… you know, the father was. 563 00:55:25.040 --> 00:55:26.800 They were chips off the old block. 564 00:55:40.040 --> 00:55:43.160 You know, his father was a bigger wolf than he was! 565 00:55:47.600 --> 00:55:50.280 He came out here, and he had an office here, 566 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.000 which later became RKO. 567 00:55:54.080 --> 00:55:57.600 See, before, any con artist could come into the motion picture industry 568 00:55:57.680 --> 00:55:58.560 and make a buck. 569 00:55:59.640 --> 00:56:02.760 And he used to fuck up in his office. 570 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.520 I used to have to wait outside the door, for chrissakes, 571 00:56:05.600 --> 00:56:07.040 while he was getting laid. 572 00:56:07.120 --> 00:56:09.120 I mean, I'm talking about Joe. 573 00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:14.440 Yeah. 574 00:56:14.520 --> 00:56:15.800 Remember that. 575 00:56:22.040 --> 00:56:22.920 Both. 576 00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:27.040 I do. 577 00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:29.920 It was in the dining room one day, 578 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.280 and she was talking about going over to Lawford's house. 579 00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.240 "I want something to talk to him about." 580 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:35.760 - Robert Kennedy? -Right. 581 00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.360 We talked about some political questions. She actually ended up writing them down 582 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:42.560 and putting them in her purse, and then she went there. 583 00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:44.840 She was seated with Bobby 584 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.600 and had made some little notes, 585 00:56:47.680 --> 00:56:51.160 feeling that she really wasn't quite bright enough for the crowd. 586 00:56:51.240 --> 00:56:53.320 And, um, at one point, 587 00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:56.760 he got up and called his father long-distance 588 00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.120 to say that he was seated with Marilyn Monroe, 589 00:56:59.200 --> 00:57:01.680 and would his father like to say hello to Marilyn. 590 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.320 - Who? -This is Bobby. 591 00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.920 And I think he asked her to dance. 592 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.160 They did that. 593 00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.440 -That goes on… - Yes, that's what she said 594 00:57:13.520 --> 00:57:15.880 on numerous occasions. 595 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.280 Again, she just didn't lie. She just spoke quite openly. 596 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.400 Oh, nothing but love. 597 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.040 Nothing but admiration. 598 00:57:49.120 --> 00:57:51.720 Tonight, we go after the story of a private detective, 599 00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.840 who helps Confidential magazine pry into the lives of Hollywood stars. 600 00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.440 An ex-cop, now one of the highest-paid private detectives in the United States. 601 00:58:00.520 --> 00:58:01.920 He's Fred Otash. 602 00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:07.560 Now then, Fred Otash, you take any case that pays you money, is that not so? 603 00:58:07.640 --> 00:58:09.360 -Correct? -That's correct. 604 00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:10.480 Any case at all? 605 00:58:10.560 --> 00:58:16.520 I won't take a case for a member of the Communist Party or a communist. 606 00:58:16.600 --> 00:58:18.560 I sort of draw the line there. 607 00:58:19.200 --> 00:58:24.120 How do you justify invading people's privacy like that? 608 00:58:25.680 --> 00:58:28.400 Well, I feel this way, if you can see it or hear it, 609 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.560 you're not invading any privacy. 610 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.400 Being a private detective is a dirty job. There's no two ways about it. 611 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:38.840 But I do a certain job, 612 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.240 and I try to determine if the facts and the items are true. 613 00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.480 - You just want the facts? -That's right. The true facts. 614 00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:56.640 - Fred Otash? - Yeah. 615 00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:04.280 I worked for and against the Mafia. I worked for and against law enforcement. 616 00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:06.760 I worked for and against the White House. 617 00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:09.600 And I worked for Hoffa. 618 00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.760 You can't be head of the Teamsters unless you're approved by the Mob. 619 00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:30.360 Hoffa was the Mob. 620 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.920 - Where'd you get the money? - What'd you say? 621 00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.760 Do you have any evidence of the $20,000 in cash? 622 00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.120 - No. -Did you receive any of this money? 623 00:59:46.200 --> 00:59:47.400 I don't believe that I did. 624 00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:50.240 Suggest anything to you? 625 00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:53.600 It doesn't suggest anything except the fact that you're trying again 626 00:59:53.680 --> 00:59:55.080 to embarrass Hoffa. That's all. 627 00:59:55.160 --> 00:59:59.280 Hoffa, he had a vendetta for Bobby. Kennedy had a vendetta for Hoffa. 628 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.880 Mr. Hoffa, did you say, "That SOB. I'll break his back." 629 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.040 Figure of speech. I don't know who I was talking about. 630 01:00:05.120 --> 01:00:06.640 I don't know what you're talking about. 631 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.360 Hoffa wanted to neutralize Kennedy. 632 01:00:17.600 --> 01:00:18.720 What Hoffa wanted 633 01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:23.480 was for me to develop a derogatory profile on Jack and Bobby Kennedy 634 01:00:23.560 --> 01:00:25.520 and their relationships with Marilyn Monroe. 635 01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:31.160 And the strategy that was agreed upon was to use electronic devices, 636 01:00:31.240 --> 01:00:33.800 and the most logical place to set those devices 637 01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:35.720 was Peter Lawford's home in Malibu. 638 01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:38.840 That was the Kennedy playground. 639 01:00:40.520 --> 01:00:42.400 And wire up Marilyn's home… 640 01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:44.800 in Brentwood. 641 01:00:49.080 --> 01:00:53.160 The house on the Helenas was the first piece of property that she 642 01:00:53.240 --> 01:00:55.080 ever had owned in her whole life. 643 01:00:55.160 --> 01:00:57.920 And my father encouraged the whole idea that 644 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:04.200 she alone as a person could own and put down roots and have her own place. 645 01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:06.400 It was something that hadn't occurred to her. 646 01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:12.280 And she was, you know, very excited about establishing her own sort of family. 647 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:17.640 What Pop wanted to do was to have her stand on her own two feet. 648 01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:24.080 But there is something in people, they want solitude for a while. 649 01:01:25.120 --> 01:01:27.880 That I'm quiet and to myself more. 650 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.840 Somewhere in there, my dad went away. 651 01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:33.360 - Yeah. - To Europe. 652 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.080 And he left with her in fairly decent shape. 653 01:01:37.040 --> 01:01:39.160 But I think she was starting that movie. 654 01:01:42.680 --> 01:01:46.680 In a sense, the less important we became in her life, the better off. 655 01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:49.760 That meant that she had her own life. 656 01:01:51.640 --> 01:01:54.200 - All right, camera! - It's 11. 657 01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:58.920 It takes me two seconds. It's taken… 658 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.400 You've… you've had two days. Sorry, George, but we can do it. 659 01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.160 Good, good, good. 660 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:06.160 All right, cameras! 661 01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:12.200 Yeah, one more. That was good though, right? 662 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.520 And she would become even more of a star. 663 01:02:24.640 --> 01:02:27.040 I'd have to look into my journal and see what he said, 664 01:02:27.120 --> 01:02:29.800 -if I wrote it down as a quote. - I'd be interested in that. 665 01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.080 This is a quote. "Marilyn will turn out to be 666 01:02:32.160 --> 01:02:35.400 the most popular actress of her generation, probably of this century." 667 01:02:36.640 --> 01:02:38.200 502. Speed. 668 01:02:39.240 --> 01:02:42.040 Mr. Cukor, on this film, has been 669 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.160 very wonderful to me. 670 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:51.880 Trying to be happy is almost as difficult as trying to be a good actress. 671 01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:54.240 You have to work at both of them. 672 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:56.880 "Her best films would have come late in her career." 673 01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:59.280 "She had a great untapped dramatic talent." 674 01:03:02.640 --> 01:03:07.720 But anyway, she was making that movie, and… my dad, when he left said, 675 01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:09.840 "You guys should try to pitch in." 676 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:14.200 He wanted to make sure that she wasn't running into some trouble. 677 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.600 There was always great danger that she might… 678 01:03:21.080 --> 01:03:23.760 get involved with somebody or something. 679 01:03:33.120 --> 01:03:36.320 The bugs were installed in the bedrooms and on the phones. 680 01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.400 And there were four bugs altogether installed out there. 681 01:03:43.720 --> 01:03:45.800 They were placed under carpets, 682 01:03:46.720 --> 01:03:49.360 in the chandeliers, and in ceiling fixtures. 683 01:03:50.680 --> 01:03:53.880 You could wire a telephone five miles from the location. 684 01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:57.200 I had sent Danoff out there. 685 01:03:57.280 --> 01:03:58.200 John Danoff. 686 01:04:05.120 --> 01:04:05.960 Yes. 687 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:14.640 The conversation that came across the receiver, 688 01:04:14.720 --> 01:04:16.880 it would fade in and fade out. 689 01:04:20.640 --> 01:04:23.280 Music, people talking, 690 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.960 and I'm then beginning to recognize the voices, 691 01:04:27.600 --> 01:04:30.320 the Bostonian accent and Marilyn Monroe. 692 01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:33.440 I heard the president call Marilyn "Marilyn," 693 01:04:33.520 --> 01:04:36.560 or Marilyn calling the president "Prez." 694 01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.240 Any conversations on the phone, 695 01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:41.160 some with Jack Kennedy, some with Bobby Kennedy, 696 01:04:41.240 --> 01:04:43.080 some with Monroe, some with other people. 697 01:04:43.160 --> 01:04:45.960 Arrangements for meetings, there were gonna be rendezvous 698 01:04:46.040 --> 01:04:50.160 with Jack Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, and Monroe. 699 01:04:51.040 --> 01:04:55.200 So there were numerous tapes made on Marilyn and Jack at the beach house 700 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:56.760 in the act of lovemaking. 701 01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:59.960 They went into the bedroom where there was another transmitter, 702 01:05:00.040 --> 01:05:03.680 which picked up cuddly talk and taking off her clothes, 703 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.640 the sex act in the bed. 704 01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:10.440 And someone wired up Marilyn's house 705 01:05:10.520 --> 01:05:11.880 on behalf of Hoffa. 706 01:05:12.720 --> 01:05:15.080 Bobby Kennedy was there many times. 707 01:05:16.080 --> 01:05:19.040 There were more tapes made out of Robert Kennedy and Monroe, 708 01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:21.800 as opposed to Jack Kennedy and Monroe. 709 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.280 This is in '62, shortly before her death. 710 01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:39.920 It must have been that summer. 711 01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:45.520 Whenever she called, 712 01:05:45.600 --> 01:05:49.600 and I would always answer the attorney general's personal calls, 713 01:05:49.680 --> 01:05:51.560 she would talk to me. 714 01:05:51.640 --> 01:05:53.760 It was as though she were reaching out. 715 01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.760 And Bob would call her back, and they'd talk. 716 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:37.920 The entire globe, 717 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.320 yesterday, the site of a momentous conflict. 718 01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.880 The conflict which has become known as the Cold War. 719 01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:51.640 The Communist Bloc would like to see the world 720 01:06:51.720 --> 01:06:53.160 under communist domination. 721 01:06:53.240 --> 01:06:56.200 Recently, we've seen it extend into turbulent Cuba. 722 01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:58.520 Does that disturb you? It should. 723 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.400 You are in the crosshairs of the bombsight. 724 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:06.280 A massive nuclear intercontinental capability. 725 01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:08.520 The communist plan for world domination. 726 01:07:08.600 --> 01:07:13.200 It is a contest unlike any we have ever faced in our history as a nation. 727 01:07:59.600 --> 01:08:02.120 I remember when she sang for the president. 728 01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:07.680 And she was so excited about it. 729 01:08:09.600 --> 01:08:12.920 'Cause, "Why, the president of the United States," you know. 730 01:08:14.200 --> 01:08:17.200 You know, it was one of the most exciting things of her life. 731 01:08:18.200 --> 01:08:21.960 President is winding up his New York day here at Madison Square Garden 732 01:08:22.040 --> 01:08:24.840 in a sort of pre-birthday celebration. 733 01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:28.320 Mr. Kennedy has the best seat in the house at the function, 734 01:08:28.400 --> 01:08:32.520 and it will be starting just about now, the finale for this affair. 735 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:35.840 Mr. President, 736 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:41.600 on this occasion of your birthday, this lovely lady, Marilyn Monroe. 737 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:18.520 Everybody! Happy birthday! 738 01:09:20.360 --> 01:09:23.240 Just being the one to sing. 739 01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:26.800 She was picked. 740 01:09:31.120 --> 01:09:33.360 - - She was picked. 741 01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:35.800 The one. 742 01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:47.280 We met in Laguna. 743 01:11:51.480 --> 01:11:53.680 A month before she died. 744 01:11:57.600 --> 01:11:58.960 She came down for the weekend. 745 01:11:59.040 --> 01:12:02.760 And… she told us the… 746 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:05.520 What had really taken place with the Kennedys. 747 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:09.240 I can… You know, I can go into the dirt, 748 01:12:09.320 --> 01:12:11.920 or I can go into lots of other things, 749 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.240 but she… She was… 750 01:12:15.320 --> 01:12:17.480 She was, uh, hurt. 751 01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:22.960 Terribly hurt when… …she was told directly 752 01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:25.920 never to call or contact again. 753 01:12:28.040 --> 01:12:29.720 -Robert or John. - Right. 754 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:35.440 Well, no, that was an order. 755 01:12:39.080 --> 01:12:41.600 - No, Jack didn't contact her. - Yeah. 756 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:42.800 Bob did. 757 01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:45.600 And that's what killed her. 758 01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:50.920 I don't care what anyone else says. 759 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.080 It was the beginning of the last day, if you will. 760 01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:04.920 Prior to her death? 761 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:10.640 She had been mixing drink and sleeping pills. 762 01:13:14.200 --> 01:13:18.040 I thought she very definitely was on the downward path. 763 01:13:19.160 --> 01:13:23.360 And I just never could quite understand whether 764 01:13:24.040 --> 01:13:27.000 she understood there was help to be had 765 01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:29.200 and people did care about her. 766 01:13:30.400 --> 01:13:32.000 And whether she was just… 767 01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:35.280 letting go. 768 01:13:38.080 --> 01:13:40.400 I like to stay here and now. 769 01:13:41.360 --> 01:13:42.840 Fame is fickle. 770 01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.920 It had its compensation. 771 01:13:49.040 --> 01:13:52.200 But… it also has its drawbacks. 772 01:13:55.200 --> 01:13:56.400 And I know it. 773 01:13:59.280 --> 01:14:00.880 I've had you, fame. 774 01:14:03.320 --> 01:14:04.480 So long! 775 01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:16.600 One of the most famous stars in Hollywood history is dead at 36. 776 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:25.640 Her housekeeper, Eunice Murray, 777 01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:27.720 found the actress dead in bed, 778 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:32.000 holding in one hand a telephone, which was off its hook. 779 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.000 Bottle of sleeping pills near her bed. 780 01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:38.120 No notes were found. 781 01:14:39.280 --> 01:14:42.640 The coroner ruled the cause of death an overdose of drugs. 782 01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:46.000 It is our opinion, probable suicide. 783 01:14:47.480 --> 01:14:50.440 Well, the official finding will never tell the story 784 01:14:51.240 --> 01:14:53.200 of her life and end. 785 01:17:29.240 --> 01:17:31.240 I will never forget that night 786 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:33.720 because we were at the Hollywood Bowl, 787 01:17:34.480 --> 01:17:38.000 and someone, I don't know who it was, that came to us, 788 01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:40.800 and all I remember is that we were no longer 789 01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.000 at the Hollywood Bowl, if you know what I mean. 790 01:17:47.200 --> 01:17:48.680 About half past ten. 791 01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:53.320 -Exactly. - Right. 792 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:16.960 That's not true because my husband was there. 793 01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:20.680 That's correct. 794 01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.840 - Remember, the official story-- -My husband fudged everything off. 795 01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:29.000 I cannot tell you why because he's no longer with us, as you know. 796 01:18:29.080 --> 01:18:31.960 - He didn't tell you why-- -Don't forget, that was his business. 797 01:18:32.040 --> 01:18:35.600 To keep the press at bay. He kept everyone in abeyance. 798 01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:42.680 - What happened? - What do you mean? 799 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:44.280 Did you go into the house? 800 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.120 - Yeah. - Did you see Monroe's body? 801 01:19:48.200 --> 01:19:50.360 Yeah, she was on the bed. 802 01:19:50.440 --> 01:19:52.800 Do you recall whether she was on her back or stomach? 803 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:53.800 Side. 804 01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:55.720 - She was on her side. - Yes. 805 01:20:11.080 --> 01:20:11.920 Yeah? 806 01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:23.840 - Yeah. - Do you know where it took her? 807 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.000 Took her to Santa Monica emergency. 808 01:20:32.280 --> 01:20:33.360 No, she wasn't. 809 01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:37.920 Yes, that's right. 810 01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:41.720 Yeah. 811 01:20:44.360 --> 01:20:46.360 -comatose, to the hospital… - Right. 812 01:20:49.160 --> 01:20:50.160 It's the truth. 813 01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:09.080 - The other people involved. - Involved. 814 01:21:09.160 --> 01:21:10.880 I don't know who was involved. 815 01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.960 Greenson and I were both at a… at a lunch. 816 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:29.040 I was sitting next to him at the table. 817 01:21:29.120 --> 01:21:30.360 - Yes. - And… 818 01:21:30.440 --> 01:21:34.160 This is after she died. '64, somewhere like that. 819 01:21:34.240 --> 01:21:35.960 Quite closely related to her death. 820 01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:48.120 They took her to St. John's. 821 01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:52.320 And that she died in the ambulance. 822 01:21:52.400 --> 01:21:55.280 Then they took her back to the house. That was what he told me. 823 01:21:58.440 --> 01:21:59.280 Right… 824 01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.160 Yeah, he did! He told me that he was in the ambulance. 825 01:22:12.120 --> 01:22:15.280 Yeah, I just don't feel comfortable telling you what he told me. 826 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:23.160 This sort of thing was not talked about. 827 01:22:24.120 --> 01:22:25.920 -People of that magnitude. - Yeah. 828 01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:28.320 Also, he wouldn't want to burden me with 829 01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:32.320 a knowledge that I would then have to hide. 830 01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:45.840 Hello? 831 01:22:47.040 --> 01:22:47.880 Yes, Tony. 832 01:22:54.080 --> 01:22:57.640 I don't want to go through it with Marilyn again because, uh… 833 01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:12.160 Listen, I don't know really anything else that I feel that I ought to do. 834 01:23:13.480 --> 01:23:14.520 -Tony! - Yeah? 835 01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:18.280 This has not had any interest for me in a long time. 836 01:23:18.360 --> 01:23:21.840 I went in, did my number, took my money and got out of the business! 837 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:27.120 Find out where Bobby Kennedy was that weekend. 838 01:23:40.120 --> 01:23:41.920 Do you wanna ask me something or-- 839 01:23:55.480 --> 01:23:57.680 Yeah, I had heard, 840 01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:02.920 on good authority, that the Saturday that this happened, 841 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:04.400 Bobby had come into town. 842 01:24:04.480 --> 01:24:06.920 Bobby was in town and supposedly left. 843 01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:11.600 And when I say I heard it, I heard it from a federal agent. 844 01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:16.880 Yes. It was definitely from the FBI. 845 01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:25.280 I think he was at Peter's house at the beach. 846 01:24:26.280 --> 01:24:27.440 Yeah, that's what I… 847 01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:32.040 In fact, I… I must say, yes, I… I do remember that. 848 01:24:32.120 --> 01:24:33.440 -He was. - Right. 849 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:35.760 -He was at Peter's house at the beach. - Right. 850 01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:12.680 Well, I hope your phone is clean. 851 01:25:14.280 --> 01:25:16.680 - Which is a good question. - Yes. 852 01:25:22.040 --> 01:25:26.680 Did Freddy, uh, corroborate? And if you don't wanna tell me, okay. 853 01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:28.520 But I can call Fred. He'll tell me. 854 01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:37.600 Well, you're talking to a lot of people, and, you know, 855 01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:40.560 you're obviously really intent on getting into this thing. 856 01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:06.080 That Marilyn was murdered is baloney. 857 01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:09.800 - I'll put you straight on it. - Yeah. 858 01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:12.000 First of all, what did Freddy tell you? 859 01:26:13.480 --> 01:26:16.120 There were tapes recorded the day of her death. 860 01:26:17.160 --> 01:26:20.600 Bobby Kennedy called her the night of her death from Lawford's house. 861 01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:25.120 And she said, you know, "Don't bother me. Leave me alone. Stay out of my life." 862 01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:29.320 A very violent argument, that, you know, "I feel passed around, I feel used, 863 01:26:29.400 --> 01:26:31.760 I feel like a piece of meat." 864 01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:39.240 Now, that's true. 865 01:26:39.320 --> 01:26:41.360 -What you just said is true. - Right. 866 01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:44.440 She was raising a stink, 867 01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:47.880 calling the broth… Calling John and the White House 868 01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:50.040 and complaining about the situation. 869 01:26:50.120 --> 01:26:53.320 - Because of the brother. - Yes. The picture that I remember 870 01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:57.960 is that she'd been hot and heavy for… for Bob. 871 01:26:58.040 --> 01:26:59.600 - Yes. - At first. 872 01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:05.600 And then, she'd gotten the cold shoulder, or somehow or other, it had turned. 873 01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:08.240 -Now the details of that, I don't know. - Right. 874 01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:11.440 But she had come to the point where she felt like 875 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:13.480 -she was just being used. - Yes. 876 01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:17.880 And that's where it was at about the time the end came. 877 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:20.800 - Right. - She was upset and heartbro… 878 01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:23.800 I don't know whether-- I don't think she was heartbroken. 879 01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:26.480 I don't think that it was a thing of being heartbroken. 880 01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.760 It was a thing of feeling taken advantage of and feeling 881 01:27:31.480 --> 01:27:34.200 a lot of lies and feeling that she was just being… 882 01:27:34.280 --> 01:27:38.040 Had come to where she said, you know, "I don't even want to see you." 883 01:27:38.120 --> 01:27:40.840 You know, and, "Why did you come here?" 884 01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:43.600 You know, "If you want to see me, you come to see me." 885 01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:46.680 -You know, "I'm not coming down there." - Right. 886 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:48.360 The call to the White House thing, 887 01:27:48.440 --> 01:27:52.960 I understood it to mean that, like she was calling to say, you know, 888 01:27:53.040 --> 01:27:55.680 "Get your brother away from me. I hate all of you." 889 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:57.320 -That type of thing. - Right. 890 01:27:57.400 --> 01:27:59.680 There was a turning point in her feelings. 891 01:28:07.040 --> 01:28:10.480 Like a piece of meat, used, passed around. 892 01:28:14.160 --> 01:28:15.880 I don't think she was heartbroken. 893 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:17.480 Feeling used. 894 01:28:19.160 --> 01:28:20.800 - "I hate all of you." - 895 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:38.080 I appreciate very much your calling. 896 01:28:38.160 --> 01:28:40.400 I think about you once in a while. 897 01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:52.800 The Kennedys were a very important part of Marilyn's life. 898 01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:57.120 I wasn't included in this information, but I was a witness to what was happening. 899 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:01.840 Yes. 900 01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:04.440 And it became so sticky 901 01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:07.720 that the protectors of Robert Kennedy, you know, 902 01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:10.600 had to step in there and protect him. 903 01:29:17.040 --> 01:29:21.040 Not an investigation, but rather a "hush-hush." 904 01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:27.280 Because the man that really was involved was the boss. 905 01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:30.680 He was the attorney general, so he could have the FBI do anything. 906 01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:31.640 People that knew, 907 01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:34.920 they knew that they didn't want Bobby Kennedy's name brought into this, 908 01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:36.960 again, because his brother was president. 909 01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:40.800 They had done everything to hush this up. 910 01:29:53.200 --> 01:29:57.560 We sort of started to piece together what happened. 911 01:29:58.320 --> 01:30:02.200 Press accounts were coming out, and they didn't make a lot of sense to us. 912 01:30:02.280 --> 01:30:04.720 And so we started playing detective. 913 01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:07.880 I pieced together the notion that a helicopter was used 914 01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:10.920 and went out to see the helicopter pilot. 915 01:30:12.480 --> 01:30:15.480 And I said, "Can I look at your log? Have you got a log?" 916 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:16.400 And he said, "Sure!" 917 01:30:16.480 --> 01:30:19.480 And he produced his log, and I started thumbing through it. 918 01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:21.240 And I saw an entry that said 919 01:30:21.320 --> 01:30:25.800 that he took Kennedy to meet a flight en route to San Francisco. 920 01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:28.960 Two or three in the morning. 921 01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:35.080 - Yeah. - Yeah. 922 01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:45.520 Well, also a call was made to Bobby Kennedy's people. 923 01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:53.320 That's right, and that he had been at the beach house and that he had flown out. 924 01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:56.200 That that was one reason for the delay. 925 01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:00.360 The message we got back was that Kennedy 926 01:31:00.440 --> 01:31:03.080 would appreciate it if we didn't do the story. 927 01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:07.760 We decided that we would not go with the story. 928 01:31:16.080 --> 01:31:19.960 Uh… What did Freddy tell you about that? 929 01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.080 But I mean, the only people that would know about that 930 01:31:28.160 --> 01:31:30.120 would be the people at the meeting. 931 01:31:44.280 --> 01:31:47.920 Lawford showed up completely disorientated 932 01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:51.360 and in a state of shock, saying that Marilyn Monroe was dead, 933 01:31:51.440 --> 01:31:53.440 that Bobby Kennedy was there, 934 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:55.800 that they had gotten in a big fight, 935 01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:59.000 that he was spirited out of town back up north, 936 01:31:59.080 --> 01:32:02.760 and that he'd like to have me make arrangements 937 01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:05.160 to have someone go out to the house 938 01:32:05.240 --> 01:32:07.400 and pick up any and all information 939 01:32:07.480 --> 01:32:09.840 that was possible regarding any involvement 940 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.200 between Marilyn Monroe and the Kennedys. 941 01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:17.480 He was convinced there was diaries around and maybe a note. 942 01:32:58.160 --> 01:33:00.240 - One moment, please. -Doyle. 943 01:33:09.400 --> 01:33:11.080 - Yes. - This had occurred? 944 01:33:11.160 --> 01:33:13.840 - Oh yeah. It did happen. - Right. 945 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:16.560 I was there at the time when she died. 946 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:19.720 There were some people there that normally wouldn't have been there. 947 01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:21.280 - Bureau people? - Yes. 948 01:33:24.080 --> 01:33:27.480 Immediately. Before anybody even realized what had happened. 949 01:33:28.240 --> 01:33:33.800 It had to be instructions from someone high up, higher than Hoover. 950 01:33:36.080 --> 01:33:38.320 - The general or the president. - Yes. 951 01:33:38.400 --> 01:33:39.320 The only two. 952 01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:07.400 She was raising a stink. 953 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:11.040 She was… 954 01:35:14.360 --> 01:35:15.320 She… 955 01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.680 Well, as far as the Los Angeles District Attorney is concerned, 956 01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:54.680 she killed herself, either on purpose or accidentally. 957 01:35:55.480 --> 01:35:57.800 The Marilyn Monroe case is closed. 958 01:36:03.400 --> 01:36:06.880 The true things rarely get into circulation. 959 01:36:09.200 --> 01:36:11.000 It's usually the false things. 960 01:36:12.840 --> 01:36:16.840 It's hard to know where to start if you don't start with the truth. 961 01:36:38.080 --> 01:36:40.160 I checked the operator for… 962 01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:43.240 -Out of order. - Hmm. 963 01:36:43.320 --> 01:36:47.440 The operator said the phone's off the hook. 964 01:36:57.080 --> 01:36:58.560 She was dead… 965 01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:01.960 I've had to live with it… 966 01:37:02.040 --> 01:37:04.440 I should have got in my car and gone up there. 967 01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:06.640 I should have known better. 968 01:37:17.480 --> 01:37:18.840 When I was a kid, 969 01:37:20.200 --> 01:37:22.160 sitting in the front row… 970 01:37:24.480 --> 01:37:26.840 at the movies on Saturday afternoon… 971 01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.680 and I'd think how wonderful it would be to be an actress. 972 01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:38.280 Everything that I would see. 973 01:37:41.320 --> 01:37:42.240 And… 974 01:37:45.480 --> 01:37:46.440 I… 975 01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:50.800 I wanted to know. 976 01:37:55.080 --> 01:37:57.080 I would like to be a good actress.