1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,320 # Welcome to Jamie-Lee's documentary, documentary 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,040 # With Jamie-Lee on Derry # 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:14,960 Cheers. My name is Jamie-Lee O'Donnell. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,600 {\an2}# Do-da-da-do... And you might know me from the comedy series Derry Girls. 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,160 Motherfuckers! 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Motherfucker. It's my new thing. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,800 In the show, my character Michelle Mallon is a foul-mouthed schoolgirl 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,840 determined to live her best life, despite growing up in a war zone. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,760 Michelle, he's a soldier. Ach, some of them are rides. 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,520 You're a fucking embarrassment! 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,840 {\an1}LOUD BLAST 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,720 In real life, I'm nothing like Michelle, of course. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,480 Listen! I'm going up the fucking hill. 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,040 {\an4}I'm gonna ask him a couple of questions. SHE LAUGHS 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,960 {\an2}I'm an Irish woman, an Irish working-class woman, and I'm very proud of that. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,360 {\an2}I'm a Derry girl born and bred, and no matter where I am, Derry is home. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,960 {\an2}I've always wanted to show people how amazing it is. Just like a wee love letter to Derry. 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,800 But nearly 25 years after the Good Friday Agreement 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,160 marked the start of a new, more peaceful era for Northern Ireland, 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,760 {\an2}I wanna know if Derry is a better place to grow up in now than back then. 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,000 Nothing's really gonna change if everybody's still segregated. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,160 {\an2}There's still a massive division within Derry, within the two communities. 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,240 I'll be finding out new things about my own city. 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,640 {\an2}Mad about it. And visiting parts of it that I've never set foot in before. 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,480 I saw the Union Jack and couldn't think. 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,120 As well as coming to terms with some of my own demons. 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Shite-ing myself to be honest. 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,600 {\an2}Most of all, I'll be trying to understand what it's like to be a young person in Derry today. 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,840 No! We have our problems, but I wanna solve our problems. 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,520 {\an1}Let's get absolutely snattered. SHE LAUGHS 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,760 Saoirse's one of my best friends. She's just brilliant to work with. 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,880 I love all the tipples. 35 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:17,960 {\an2}We're like the wee terrible twins. "Do you want another one?" The other person's not gonna say no. 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,240 Thank you. Cheers. Thank you. Cheers. 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,120 So, I think Derry is a class night out, as we all know. 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,240 What is it? What do you miss really about Derry when you're away? 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,000 I miss, cos Derry's so small, it's walking distance to get a pint. 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,800 It is, and a night out here feels like a bigger event. 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Do you know, like a night out is out out. 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,800 {\an2}Even when people aren't talking about it, we throw in the facts about Derry, 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,000 where's the best place to go, when we signpost it. 44 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 And people say, "Do you work for the council?" 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,160 We we're like, "Should we work for the council?" 46 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Should we? I think we'd do a really good job. 47 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,000 We are also full of random facts about the town. 48 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,400 We know so many random facts about Derry. 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,280 Here's some information I know you didn't want, but here it is. 50 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,840 {\an4}Facts on Derry by Jamie-Lee and Saoirse.Facts on Derry. SHE LAUGHS 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040 I think it's the people of Derry that make it special for me. 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,600 {\an2}And it comes with all their sensibilities and their weird and wonderful ways. 53 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:15,280 {\an2}Like, everything's so intense. I don't know if that's from coming with the Troubles, 54 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,560 or the working-class background, maybe a combination of everything. 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,920 But brilliant craic. Brilliant craic. Brilliant craic. 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,440 It's like no matter what this town has ever went through, 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,920 I think it's bred this real lust for joy. 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,080 Like, there's no stopping us. Yeah. 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,360 There's no stopping us. There's no stopping us. Aye. 60 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,080 While you can probably hear just how much Saoirse and I love Derry, 61 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,120 we're not blind to its problems. 62 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,640 And obviously we're both very proud of where we're from, 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,200 and I think that we're so proud of the show, as well, 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,480 and I'm really proud of you doing this documentary. 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,440 {\an2}I don't think that there really is a better person that could be leading this than you. 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,000 I've always just really been passionate about it growing up, 67 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,080 {\an2}and some of the injustices that happened here, like a lot of other places, 68 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,600 {\an2}and I just think it was time to highlight stuff, just from my perspective, if I can. 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,920 My beautiful hometown is in the north-west of Northern Ireland, 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 close to the Irish border. 71 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,520 {\an1}KNOCKS ON GLASS 72 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Licence. 73 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,120 Where have you come from today? Derry. Londonderry. 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Derry. Londonderry. 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,840 Calm the fuck down, James! Are you English? Yeah. 76 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,400 He's fine. We didn't bring him up here to kill him or anything. 77 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,880 Yes, this city is so good, they named it twice. Well, kind of. 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Catholics call it Derry and Protestants call it Londonderry. 79 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,640 {\an2}Behind me here is the west side of the city, also known as the city side. 80 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Back in the day, that was mostly Catholic. 81 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,480 And then on the east here in front of me is the water side 82 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,800 and that was mostly Protestant. 83 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:03,320 But even today, not much has changed 84 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,480 and the two communities are still largely divided. 85 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,040 {\an2}This is the Peace Bridge in Derry, one of three bridges, cos we apparently love a bridge. 86 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,560 It was built in 2011 to literally bridge the gap 87 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,240 between the Catholic community and the Protestant community. 88 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:24,280 {\an2}Because for a wee while, I don't know if you've heard, we weren't really getting on the best. 89 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Have I ever dated a Protestant? Probably. Without realising. 90 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,200 {\an2}I definitely got a wee kiss in a nightclub off a Protestant, for defs. 91 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,320 {\an1}SHE LAUGHS 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,760 The way the bridge curves is meant to symbolise 93 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,240 that the path to peace is never straight. 94 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:47,640 Turns out, they were right. 95 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,920 {\an1}SIREN WAILS 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,720 In 1998, after 30 years of violence 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,040 and more than 3,500 deaths, 98 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,120 the Good Friday Agreement was signed. 99 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,000 Protestants and Catholics would now share power in Northern Ireland 100 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,320 to make things fairer for all. 101 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Nearly 25 years later, I want to see 102 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,000 what life is like for young girls growing up in Derry today. 103 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,520 So I've come back to my old school, St Cecilia's College. 104 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,840 Although the building has had a bit of an upgrade since my day, 105 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,240 it brings back lots of memories. 106 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:29,160 A French fella, that's what I wanna do. Nation of rides. 107 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,920 {\an2}My fanny's going funny just thinking about it! Could you not use that word, Michelle? 108 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,520 What, fanny? Why do you always have to be so coarse? 109 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,840 What's the big deal? We all have one. I don't. You are one. 110 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,600 {\an2}Nice to meet yous all, anyway. Nice to meet you. Aren't you supposed to be in class? Yeah. 111 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,400 {\an1}THEY LAUGH 112 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,800 I can't wait to get back to one of my favourite classes and teachers, 113 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:54,800 Miss McTague and drama. So good to see you. Thanks for having me back. 114 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:57,080 Thanks for having me in your class, everybody. 115 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,040 {\an4}It's been a while since you were here.It's been a tiny while, aye. THEY LAUGH 116 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,120 Do you wanna pick yourself out, cos I thought this was hilarious, 117 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,160 cos you're hiding behind a dog poo bin. Of course. 118 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,640 {\an1}And it's dog shit.OK, good. SHE LAUGHS 119 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,200 We'll say dog poo, and the cot, and the real cot. 120 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,040 {\an1}It's Channel 4. We can say... THEY LAUGH 121 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,480 {\an2}You're in your teacher's classroom now. I know. You'll mind your manners. 122 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Oh, I might just swear. 123 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,840 As punishment for my bad language... 124 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,000 Oh, that's not too bad. 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,640 ..I have to help tidy up the props cupboard. 126 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Look at this. I remember all this stuff. 127 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,840 But it gives me a chance to grill the girls. 128 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,200 {\an2}Hi. I'm just gonna give you bunches of stuff and then we can have a wee sort through. 129 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,200 # Do-do-do-do 130 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,920 Anyway, so what year are yous all? Upper sixth. Upper sixth. 131 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,400 And are yous all from Derry? 132 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,520 {\an2}Yes. This is still all girls Catholic school, is that right? Yeah. 133 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,720 {\an2}Yous don't have a wee random Protestant fella running about, a wee English fella? No. 134 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,000 That would be a good craic. 135 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,360 {\an2}It's hard to believe that more than 90 percent of children in Northern Ireland 136 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,960 are still educated in non-integrated schools. 137 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,600 That's schools that are effectively either Catholic or Protestant. 138 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,640 {\an2}Do yous mix with Protestants outside, people of different nationalities, anything like that? 139 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Or do you stick to your own? Everybody's different. 140 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,680 It's not voluntary. 141 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,720 {\an2}We just, like... Aye. We just so happen to be surrounded by our own people, I think. 142 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,320 {\an2}Seeking out Protestants. If you're a Protestant, do you wanna be my friend? 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,760 {\an1}SHE LAUGHS Do you wanna play netball? 144 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,960 {\an2}From hearing what your parents went through or older siblings in terms of living in Derry and segregation, 145 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,400 {\an2}do you think that's still as prominent now, or are you finding that it's not that big a deal? 146 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,280 I don't think it has really anything to do with religion at all. 147 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,640 It's more political views. Like, who cares if you're a Protestant? 148 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:55,920 Nobody cares about your actual religion. 149 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,920 Do you think it's more like cultural identity? Aye. 150 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,360 {\an2}So you think there's space to have a healthy debate with people of your generation 151 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,240 about the cultural differences in Derry? 152 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,920 I wouldn't say healthy. Not healthy. No. 153 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,520 {\an2}Everyone is so opinionated on it that you almost just don't wanna get into it, 154 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,360 if you're, like, friends with them or... I would disagree. 155 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,840 {\an2}Say I'm speaking to someone from Belfast and I find out they're a Protestant, 156 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,600 {\an2}we could speak very openly and honestly, as long as you're both willing to listen. 157 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,680 {\an2}But I think in Derry, we kind of politicise it more, kind of like standoffish. 158 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:33,160 {\an2}It's just nerves. Everybody's nervous. If you ignore it, hope it won't be brung up. Aye. 159 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,280 It seems it can still be hard to talk about these issues 160 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,120 and I wonder if it's because what happened in the past 161 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,680 is still such a big part of people's lives in Derry today. 162 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,120 Because obviously none of yous were around during the Troubles, 163 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,160 {\an2}do you think it's, even with your generation, it still feels a wee bit personal? 164 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,120 Northern Ireland as a whole, Catholics and Protestants, 165 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,240 have, like, a really high mental health rate, 166 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,600 {\an2}and we were saying that we think a lot of that does come from the Troubles. 167 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,200 So it's been, like, passed down through, like, trauma. 168 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,280 {\an2}So is it safe to say, in your generation, you still feel impacted by it 169 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,040 even though yous weren't there in person? Oh, definitely. Yeah. Aye. 170 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,000 God, that's really scary, isn't it? It's like our mummies and daddies. 171 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Of course. It's not that far back in history. 172 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,760 For yous to feel it's impacted your lives now is insane. 173 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,320 {\an2}There's a whole new generation of people still trying to figure it out and still discussing it. 174 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Like, it's a massive issue. 175 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:34,200 {\an2}I don't think I was surprised that they didn't have much cross-community 176 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,880 or much integration with the Protestant community. 177 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,960 {\an2}You just kind of wish that it wasn't happening still. You'd think we'd have moved on a wee bit. 178 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,720 {\an2}But it's made me think about the fact that I also lived a fairly segregated life 179 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,920 within my own Catholic community. 180 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,520 {\an8}Maybe it's time I experienced parts of this city 181 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:57,800 {\an8}I've spent my entire life scared to visit. 182 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,360 When I set out to discover what it's like 183 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,400 to be a young person in Derry today, 184 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,000 I didn't expect to be talking about the Troubles quite so soon. 185 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,880 But I've realised that to understand Derry, 186 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,680 you have to go back to the 30th of January 1972. 187 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,200 Hello, Ciara. Hello, Jamie-Lee, how are you? 188 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Great. Thanks for having me. Not at all. Thank you for coming. 189 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,080 Ciara O'Connor Pozo is showing me around the Museum Of Free Derry, 190 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,520 {\an2}where the main exhibition remembers a day the people of Derry will never forget. 191 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:46,880 This is the Derry Civil Rights Association banner. 192 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,840 And it was actually carried on Bloody Sunday. 193 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,480 You might see that it's kind of a bit stained, 194 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,880 and that's actually because it was lain over the body of Hugh Gilmour, 195 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,200 who was shot just outside the Rossville flats. 196 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,120 17-year-old Hugh Gilmour was shot dead on Bloody Sunday. 197 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:09,320 He was one of 13 people killed by British Army paratroopers that day. 198 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,400 A 14th man died from his injuries five months later. 199 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,120 It's quite a sad exhibition, as well. It's quite powerful. 200 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,000 It is. It's really overwhelming, isn't it... Mm-hm. ..to see it? 201 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,960 The Troubles in Northern Ireland started in the late 1960s, 202 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,200 fuelled by historical events and social injustices. 203 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,680 After more than 700 years of British rule, 204 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Ireland had been partitioned in 1921. 205 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:46,600 Six of the island's 32 counties became Northern Ireland 206 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,800 and remained under British rule. 207 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,920 {\an2}After partition, many Catholics in Northern Ireland faced discrimination, 208 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,480 particularly in housing, jobs, voting and political representation. 209 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,840 {\an2}By the 1960s, people here were taking to the streets in civil rights protests. 210 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,880 {\an2}It was against this backdrop that one of Northern Ireland's darkest days unfolded 211 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,120 right here in Derry. 212 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,480 {\an1}GUNFIRE 213 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,560 I would describe Bloody Sunday as... 214 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,040 a day in Derry history, Irish history, 215 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,200 that changed the course of history. 216 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,920 {\an4}EXPLOSION Three hours after the procession began, 217 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,480 this has ended up, as dusk comes onto the Bogside, 218 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,480 as the worst ever confrontation between the Army 219 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,040 and the Catholic people of the Creggan and Bogside. 220 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,000 It was a civil rights march. 221 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,920 The Derry people were marching for the rights that they deserved. 222 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,120 {\an1}EXPLOSION 223 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,560 And the British paratroopers opened fire 224 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,800 and murdered 13 people on the day, 14 total. 225 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:59,040 Innocent, defenceless people. 226 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,840 {\an2}There are three in that Saracen car. There are two men laying at the end of this block of flats. 227 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,880 {\an2}There's another man at least very close to being dead. There are two others up there. 228 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,920 {\an1}SIREN WAILS 229 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,920 {\an2}This exhibit actually contains personal effects that would have belonged to the victims. 230 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,400 One of the ones that I think is really powerful is this baby grow, 231 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,640 that was used to stem the blood of Michael Kelly. 232 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,960 {\an2}And he was brought in injured to a house and this woman obviously just found a baby grow 233 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,520 and used it to stop the blood. But he unfortunately died. 234 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,440 {\an2}There was quite a few 17-year-olds that died on the day, and he was one of them. 235 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,800 How prominent do you think those stories are? 236 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Do you think they would resonate with 17-year-olds now? 237 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,080 {\an2}There's young people here in Derry that would go on climate marches and... Yeah. 238 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,560 ..we kind of take that, that right to go out and make our views heard, 239 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,920 we kind of take that nearly for granted. 240 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,240 And this was just 50 years ago. 241 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,280 {\an2}The Bloody Sunday families spent decades fighting to clear the names of their loved ones. 242 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,320 An initial inquiry had endorsed claims that the soldiers opened fire 243 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,000 only after they came under attack from the crowd. 244 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,040 In 2010, the Saville Inquiry made it clear 245 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,360 that soldiers had lied in these claims 246 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,880 and concluded that the killings were unjustifiable. 247 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Now, Saville uses the term "unjustifiable." 248 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,880 But to me, and most people I know, 249 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,880 an unjustifiable killing is the same as murder. 250 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,880 It took 38 years for the British government to apologise. 251 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,240 What happened on Bloody Sunday 252 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,960 was both unjustified and unjustifiable. 253 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,480 {\an1}CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 254 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,920 {\an2}The trauma of the violence doesn't just affect those who lived through it. 255 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,920 {\an2}The stories of the Troubles and the soldiers and all that, we all know that. 256 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,120 It's not that far back in the past. My parents had lessons in school 257 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,920 how to listen out for gunfire and what material to hide behind. 258 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,160 Was it under a car or behind a wall? 259 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,160 To understand about bombs and things like that. 260 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,960 {\an1}GUNSHOT 261 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 {\an2}But growing up in Derry, it was just... you just always had to be aware, 262 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,320 {\an2}and I didn't really fully know why because I didn't grow up through the 70s. 263 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,760 {\an2}But there was just this sort of panicked energy around the adults of just fear. 264 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,880 It's been 50 years since Bloody Sunday, 265 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,120 and I've been asked to do a reading at a special commemoration event. 266 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,360 Thanks for inviting me. It's an honour. 267 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,200 {\an2}But I always get really nervous with stuff like this, cos it's such a huge responsibility, isn't it? 268 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,800 {\an2}We wanted to put together a massive public event that everyone could attend. 269 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,880 {\an2}It's kind of about looking forward with hope, but still remembering what happened. 270 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:16,040 {\an2}It's shaped our culture in many ways. It has. I'm even more nervous now. 271 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,160 {\an2}Being in the museum and speaking to Ciara, I think it's really brought home the responsibility 272 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,560 that I have in that little section of the performance 273 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,240 {\an2}at making sure I do it justice and do Derry people proud and the people who've gone through it. 274 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,040 So it's nerve-racking, but I'm really honoured to be asked. 275 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,760 {\an2}Growing up in Derry, I spent most of my time with people brought up Catholic like me. 276 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,240 But around a quarter of the population here is Protestant. 277 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,520 And while I've had a few Protestant friends, 278 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,240 {\an2}I don't know much about their culture or traditions. Except for one. 279 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,360 To think, I could be staring at him right now. 280 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,640 You can't marry an Orange man, Michelle. It's a pity. 281 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,400 {\an2}Because I think there's something really sexy about the fact that they hate us so much. 282 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,360 {\an2}No. Have I ever been to a 12th of July March? No. It's just funny that you would ask that. 283 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,520 {\an4}BRASS BAND PLAYS Everyone in Northern Ireland knows about the 12th of July, 284 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,160 or the 12th as it's better known. 285 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,280 It's the anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne in 1690, 286 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,280 when a Protestant king defeated a Catholic king. 287 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,760 {\an2}Protestant marches and parades take place on this and other big anniversaries 288 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,800 throughout the year in Northern Ireland. 289 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,080 One of the organisations that celebrates Protestant culture 290 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:43,200 is based in this building right in the centre of Derry. 291 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,920 And needless to say, I've never set foot in this place before. 292 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,400 Something I never thought in a million years I would do, 293 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,200 {\an2}cos I thought I'd just walk in and catch flames or something, I don't know. 294 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Plot twist. I'm a Protestant. 295 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,400 I'm here to meet one of the oldest foot bands in the country, 296 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,360 {\an2}who take part in lots of different events and parades, including the 12th. 297 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,960 {\an1}BAND PLAYS It's my favourite. 298 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,480 As I walk in, their weekly practice is well underway. 299 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,400 Even hearing this music makes me feel a bit weird. 300 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:32,400 {\an2}Something you need to know about me is that when I'm nervous, I talk... a lot. 301 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,560 {\an4}Hello.How are you?Do you know any Wolfe Tones? No, I'm only joking. THEY LAUGH 302 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,240 {\an2}Thank yous for having me. And I just wanted to sort of get a wee chat to yous 303 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,520 and just ask yous what is all this about? 304 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,560 {\an1}What's the craic?What's the craic? THEY LAUGH 305 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,800 {\an2}It's a big surprise, I don't know anybody who plays in a marching band. 306 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560 And is it predominantly Protestant people that play in the bands? 307 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,000 {\an2}It is, yes. It's predominant Protestant. Is there any bands that you know of 308 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,880 that has a mix of different religions? 309 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,320 {\an2}Obviously, on parade, if it's an Orange parade, it usually technically would always be... 310 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:06,080 Just for safety reasons, it has to be all Protestants. 311 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:11,400 {\an2}But, I mean, we do cross-border things with Catholics bands, if you want to call them that. 312 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,640 You're brought up with it and you do join from an early age. 313 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,920 Younger people, again, a lot of them come from family members. 314 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,120 {\an2}And it can transpire into academia, as well. So a lot of the parents are very happy for them 315 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,480 to come and learn their instruments and become part of the band. 316 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,560 It's all going so well until I mention Bloody Sunday. 317 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,840 {\an2}I also wanted to ask yous, the 50th anniversary of Bloody Sunday is coming up, 318 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,440 and I just wanted to ask, again, you don't have to answer, 319 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,560 what's your perception of that? 320 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,840 {\an2}Would yous, I don't know, would yous be interesting in that at all? Or does it... 321 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,360 {\an2}Is it anything to do with yous, or how would yous feel about it? If anything. It might be nothing. 322 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,880 OK, Great. 323 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,160 There was just a radio silence. And I'll be honest, 324 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,520 I was really, really shocked, because I didn't anticipate... 325 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,040 a reaction about it different to mine. 326 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,320 And I know that's a wee bit ignorant to me, I suppose. 327 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,960 But I really didn't expect that level of silence at all. 328 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,800 I think I made people really uncomfortable. And I didn't mean to. 329 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,480 {\an2}So we just moved on with the conversation. I think I made a couple of awkward jokes 330 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,800 {\an2}cos I just do that whenever it's awkward. You just sort of have a couple of jokes. 331 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Well, we'll just put that aside. We'll put that aside. 332 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:28,560 Do yous know any Irish jigs? I don't think I even know any Irish jigs. 333 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,440 There's Irish jigs in the folder. Irish jigs, aye. 334 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,120 Guys, it's not in the folder. What's this wee guy called? 335 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,960 It looks like a wee hotdog. It's a baton. Baton! 336 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,440 {\an4}Hold the big end. There we go. THEY LAUGH I thought it was the wee hotdog end. 337 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,760 {\an1}THEY LAUGH 338 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,680 {\an1}One, two. THEY PLAY 339 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,240 This feels slightly surreal. 340 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,760 Here I am conducting a Protestant flute band, 341 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,480 surrounded by flags I'd usually run a mile from. 342 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,440 {\an8}Unlike me, many in the Protestant community 343 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,880 {\an8}see themselves as British and are loyal to the Crown. 344 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560 But even though we come from very different worlds, 345 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,960 everyone in the flute band has been really welcoming to me. 346 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,640 {\an2}That was really good. Yous are really, really good. That's brilliant. 347 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,840 {\an2}I want to find out more about what it's like to be a young person in the Protestant community here. 348 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,440 {\an2}Hi, Julie, how are you? How are you? I'm good. So I'm meeting Julie from the band for a drink. 349 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,800 {\an2}Was there any feedback after I left? Were they thinking, "She's a head case"? 350 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,720 {\an2}We want you as our new conductor now. That was really good, wasn't it? 351 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,080 Yous are good banter, as well. It was a good craic. 352 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,240 I just sort of wanted to ask, do you think there's certain things 353 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:51,800 {\an2}that are really affecting the Protestant community in Derry at the moment? Any sort of social issues? 354 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,320 {\an2}A lot of working-class Protestant areas, there's problems with education, 355 00:22:56,360 --> 00:23:01,840 {\an2}under-achievement within education, particularly within working-class Protestant boys. 356 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,280 There's been an increase in the use of food banks. 357 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,720 So there is a lot of social issues going on, 358 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,720 particularly within the Protestant community at the minute, as well. 359 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,760 {\an2}When you look across the spectrum of the city, you see that everybody's facing the same thing. 360 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,000 {\an2}We're feeling people who are struggling with mental health issues across Northern Ireland. 361 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,120 And so something really needs to be done about it. 362 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,120 I don't know what it's like to grow up in the Protestant community 363 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,760 {\an2}or to be British over in this part of the world. I can't imagine the goal... was... 364 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,280 for the Protestant community to come down and face the problems we have. 365 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,800 It just feels like everybody's fucked now. 366 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,920 While the British government has said 367 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,200 its commitment to Northern Ireland and the union is unshakeable, 368 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,760 many people feel the problems here are being made worse by Brexit. 369 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,720 {\an2}And there's increased discussions about the possibility of a border pool 370 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,320 and a united Ireland. 371 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:57,440 How do you think that would make you feel, or your community feel? 372 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:03,160 {\an2}There is a wee bit of hurt in the community that sometimes we're just sort of still just seen as, 373 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,240 {\an2}"Oh, they're Irish over there." Whereas we see ourselves as British Northern Irish. 374 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,440 We would want to remain part of the UK. 375 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,360 So any issues that stem from our community, 376 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,120 {\an2}regardless, come from the fact that sometimes you can feel identity slipping away. 377 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,120 And identity is a very important thing to Protestant people 378 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,520 because it's part of who we are. 379 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,160 {\an2}And what would you say in the next ten years would you like to see, if anything? 380 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,160 I would just like to see the city thriving. Peaceful freedom, 381 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,480 peaceful celebration of culture for everybody. 382 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,200 {\an2}Thank you so much, Julie. I really appreciate it. And cheers to the wee drink. 383 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,800 {\an4}Thanks for coming. Let's get absolutely snattered. THEY LAUGH 384 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,640 I'm so pleased Derry is now a place 385 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,640 where I can go for a drink with someone like Julie. 386 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,200 But this is a city still held hostage by its complicated history. 387 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,040 {\an2}And I've realised that to move on, we need to tackle the trauma head-on. 388 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,080 Even if that means confronting my own demons. 389 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,200 ..that will live long in the memory of the people. 390 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,880 {\an8}What was supposed to be a simple civil rights march 391 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,000 {\an8}turned into a day of bloodshed and horror. 392 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,040 {\an2}I'm rehearsing my lines for the Bloody Sunday 50th anniversary event. 393 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,080 British men thumbing through history pages looking for solutions... 394 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,880 It's a huge part of Derry history. 395 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,120 Obviously it was a negative part for such a long time, 396 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,920 and I think this commemoration service that's happening 397 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,440 is maybe a way to look at how far we've come in this city, hopefully, 398 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,320 and that in itself is such a big responsibility. 399 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,160 What was supposed to be a simple civil rights march 400 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,840 turned into a day of bloodshed and horror 401 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,760 that will live long in the memory of the people. 402 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,600 Having to think about what happened is proving difficult for me 403 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,280 and is bringing a lot of my own childhood trauma to the surface. 404 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,240 If you grew up in a certain place where you're afraid of the police, 405 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,800 it definitely does something to your decisions 406 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800 and how you feel about yourself and how you value yourself. 407 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,920 {\an2}If the people who are supposed to protect you, look after you, you're brought up afraid of them, 408 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,480 and are distrusting of them... it leaves you a bit lost. 409 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,240 It's just fucking overwhelming. And I just think it's unfair for people, 410 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,440 especially my parents' generation. 411 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,080 {\an2}Looking back as an adult, it's really hard not to get really heartbroken by it, 412 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:41,960 and you feel, like, devastated for your family. 413 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,920 {\an2}Maybe it's no wonder many people think there's a mental health crisis in Derry, 414 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,840 something experts recognise as linked to Troubles-related trauma. 415 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:56,280 {\an2}These people still struggle with the devastation of it. We're still segregated. 416 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,400 And that's just not fixed within a generation. 417 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Despite everything this place has been through, 418 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,280 {\an2}there's a resilience in Derry people that I think is nothing short of incredible. 419 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,120 Hi, Serena. Oh, hey! How are you? 420 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,080 {\an2}Serena Terry is an amazingly-talented Derry woman turned online sensation. 421 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:32,000 Her character, Mammy Banter, has over 20 million likes on TikTok. 422 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,640 Don't judge me, right? Right. 423 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,400 I can do it. Jesus shit! 424 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,600 {\an4}I don't know where he's heard that. That's class! SHE LAUGHS 425 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,880 Serena has used this huge online platform 426 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720 to get people talking about mental health in Derry. 427 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,640 And she's brutally honest about her own experience. 428 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,680 {\an2}My name's Serena. I'm a mum of two, 35-year-old, and I am on medication for anxiety and depression 429 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760 and have been for six years. But that was enough then 430 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,560 {\an2}to start the conversation and the narrative around mental health, and the feedback I got 431 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,920 from thousands and thousands of people 432 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,800 to say that they, too, were either on medication for anxiety, 433 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800 or were suffering, feeling that they couldn't ask for help, 434 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,120 that this is just part and parcel of life. 435 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,240 {\an2}Serena's struggle with anxiety is something many people, including me, could relate to. 436 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,320 {\an2}When I got to the stage of asking for help, it took me about two years. 437 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,360 I was in complete denial. And I just broke down 438 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,920 in front of the doctors and that was enough for them to see... 439 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,240 Aye, it's a scary thing. That happened to myself, too, 440 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,520 and I was worried about my anxiety, even after Derry Girls took off. 441 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,640 {\an2}And you think all your Christmases came at once so you should be dead happy 442 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,680 and everything's supposed to be fine. Perfect. 443 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,200 And then it's like, "Well, what have you got to be sad about?" 444 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,560 {\an2}And you start to think about it, you're like "Fuck everything!" I wrote my will. Jesus! 445 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,800 {\an2}I wrote my will. I was going to bed every night thinking I'm not gonna wake up in the morning. 446 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,240 And it spiralled into anxiety and panic attacks and depression. 447 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,880 Serena's openness is helping me confront my own feelings. 448 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,600 Do you know what? Even doing this documentary, I'm struggling, 449 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080 cos I get so much anxiety when I'm going to film, 450 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680 in my stomach, and I feel like I physically want to run away, 451 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,760 {\an2}but I have to just get over it, and I've been doing that, and I'm glad I am, 452 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,160 {\an2}but even now, pulling apart all this stuff and having to think about my life... Your personal stuff. 453 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,960 {\an2}..it's freaking me out. Is it? But I'm glad I'm doing it. Have you ever been so open? No. 454 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,000 {\an2}This whole process has been dead nerve-racking and really uncomfortable, if I'm being honest. 455 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,840 I know it's something I want to do. I knew it would be uncomfortable 456 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,720 {\an2}because it's close to home and I don't like crying. I still have that sort of... 457 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,400 {\an2}that sort of closed-off-ness that you sort of get coming from here sometimes. 458 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,560 How would you view the mental health crisis within Derry? 459 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,560 I have seen first-hand, erm... 460 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360 the legacy of the conflict and the Troubles, 461 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680 from my daddy and him having paranoid schizophrenia. 462 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,080 The legacy of deprivation, poverty and... 463 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,000 most recently, I've seen the legacy of lack of funding. 464 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,880 We've less funding for mental health services than anywhere in the UK. 465 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,600 And it just frustrates me. It just doesn't make any sense. 466 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,120 So we walk further down the beach and we do a wee warm up, 467 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,320 just to get the blood going and heat up the body. 468 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:29,040 {\an2}Serena decided to try and improve her own mental health with some cold-water swimming. 469 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,160 Now hundreds of others in Derry are joining her. 470 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,720 The cold-water dipping. Yes. I think it sounds terrifying. 471 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,920 You look really nervous every time you say that. Because it's mental. 472 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,840 It doesn't make any sense. It's Ireland. What are you talking about? 473 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600 So I went and I tried it and... 474 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,080 {\an2}within a couple of days, my whole mood changed. I felt as if I could take on the world. 475 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,480 And I started documenting it on Instagram. 476 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,920 So many people were like, "Tell me more about this cold-water dipping." 477 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,360 {\an2}So I put an open invite, I set up a page on Instagram and I said, "Come along. I'll teach yous how to do it. 478 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,240 {\an2}"We'll go down every week." And here we are. We've over 200 people in the group. 479 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,960 {\an2}It's ranging from 17, 18-year-old girls who are suffering with anxiety and are using it as treatment, 480 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,480 and then we've got that older demographic, 481 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,800 who are grieving from suicide. 482 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,520 {\an2}The way I see it, if ten people are benefiting more now with their mental health 483 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,000 than they were before Christmas, 484 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,240 it's the proudest thing I've ever done in my life. 485 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360 I wanna help you. OK. Cos you've been feeling a wee bit anxious. 486 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,560 Yes, very much so. Are you gonna come down into the cold water? 487 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,840 Erm... You'll love it, I swear. 488 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,320 {\an2}You'll hit me. You'll probably punch me in the first 20 seconds, but you'll love it. 489 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,360 {\an2}Can I have a wee think and see the craic? Cos it is winter. Have a wee think. 490 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760 I would really, really love you to come down, though. OK. 491 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,960 And I think it'll just calm you. 492 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,360 {\an1}CLOCK CHIMES 493 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,680 {\an1}CLOCK CHIMES 494 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000 I don't remember ever finding out about Bloody Sunday. 495 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680 I think it was just always something that everybody knew about. 496 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,960 My grandpa marched in Bloody Sunday, like a lot of people's families did. 497 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920 My family knew some of the people who were murdered. 498 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,280 It's sewn into who we are as people. 499 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,560 It's 50 years today since Bloody Sunday 500 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,400 and preparations are underway for the commemoration event. 501 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,560 I'm really, really nervous, if I'm honest. 502 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,640 It's a huge thing, it's a huge deal to be here and to be part of it, 503 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,560 {\an2}and I'm just massively appreciative, and just hope I do it justice and do it well. 504 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,920 {\an2}I'm also nervous that I'm sharing the stage with Derry actress and Hollywood star Bronagh Gallagher. 505 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920 We have to remember the line we come in. 506 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,560 I think it goes name, then lights, they were saying last night, 507 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,200 so I'll say the name, cues the light. Is that right? 508 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,520 Our role is to read out the names of the people who died that day. 509 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,320 {\an2}So it's like a wee five seconds in between. Yeah. Yeah. We can try it now. 510 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,320 {\an2}As the audience take their seats, I'm trying to focus on what I have to do. 511 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,120 This is one of the most important performances of my life. 512 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680 Right. 513 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,680 {\an2}Oh, my God! I'm shite-ing myself. I just realised I have to go on stage. I always do this, 514 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,880 like, walking out. 515 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,440 {\an2}Until I have a drink of water, and then just sort of panic. And be like, "Oh! I have to go on stage!" 516 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,760 It's a technique, I suppose. 517 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,640 ALL: # Oh, Danny boy 518 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,360 # The pipes, the pipes are calling 519 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,520 # From glen to glen 520 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,760 # And down the mountain side 521 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,640 # The summer's gone 522 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,880 # And all the flowers are dying 523 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,240 # 'Tis you, 'tis you... 524 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,400 As Bronagh, Adrian Dunbar and I wait in the wings, 525 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,120 the emotion of the singing and the sombre atmosphere hits me. 526 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,680 {\an1}APPLAUSE 527 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,960 I'm trying not to cry. Just until I get through my bit, 528 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000 because you don't want, like... 529 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,520 {\an2}It was so hard to not let your emotions run away with you before I went on stage. 530 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,680 {\an1}APPLAUSE 531 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,520 On that fateful day in 1972, 532 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080 the world saw what happened. 533 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,880 The whole world knew of the 14 innocents stolen away. 534 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,240 The absence of justice 535 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,400 and the depth of grief 536 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,240 are scarred on the souls of the bereaved. 537 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,880 I think every family in Derry has experienced trauma. 538 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,560 Everybody in the north has. How could you not? 539 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,120 You talk about people who had lost their lives, who were murdered, 540 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,160 and who died in such an awful way. 541 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,160 And to be able to remember that and note it 50 years later, 542 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,320 {\an2}I mean, it felt like you could've heard a pin drop when we were talking, which was amazing. 543 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,600 Kevin McElhinney. 544 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,800 Bernard McGuigan. 545 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,720 For all the victims of the conflict. 546 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,880 {\an1}CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 547 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,400 {\an2}I was actually squeezing my hand so I wouldn't cry, especially when the music kicked in. 548 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,080 I feel like I've been holding this in for ages. 549 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,040 It sort of just brings it all home, doesn't it? 550 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,840 About what everybody in Derry went through. 551 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,800 And there's a lot of good, as well, obviously, to come from this, but... 552 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,920 aye, it's a lot. I knew this was gonna happen at some point. 553 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,880 I'm so glad we did it. So am I. And we didn't break down. 554 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,800 So hopefully I done everybody proud. Hopefully. 555 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,760 {\an2}Remembering the horror of Bloody Sunday reminds me how important it is to try and secure 556 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,440 a fair and peaceful future for everyone in Derry. 557 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,600 But we're not quite there yet, and I do sometimes wonder 558 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,240 has the violence really gone away for good? 559 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,960 I've been discovering just how much Derry's past 560 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,320 has influenced its people today, myself included. 561 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,440 {\an8}And I've learned there's no single solution to the challenges we face, 562 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,240 but that it's good to be open to new experiences. 563 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,320 This is gonna be a nightmare. Or brilliant, one of the two. 564 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080 So, it's January 565 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,240 and it's Ireland 566 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,520 and I'm not quite sure how it's come about, 567 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680 but I'm going for a swim. 568 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,440 I can't believe I'm gonna go do this. 569 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,480 Oh, it's freezing. 570 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,800 I'm joining Serena and dozens of locals for some cold-water swimming 571 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,920 to try and help my anxiety. 572 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Everybody, are you ready to get into the water? 573 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,360 Oh, my God! Oh, my God! 574 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,560 Jamie-Lee, come on down with me. 575 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,520 Ladies, I want yous to move over here. 576 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,920 Are yous ready? ALL: Yeah! 577 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,640 {\an2}I've never done this before, but now that I'm here, there's no turning back. 578 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,520 I'm just glad Serena's there to look after me in the water. 579 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,760 {\an2}It's quite overwhelming. It is. Quite emotional. It is. But it's really, really class. 580 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,720 It just... It's like mindfulness. It's forced mindfulness. 581 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,280 {\an2}Cos the only thing you can concentrate on is the cold in your body. 582 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,600 It just feels well euphoric. It does. Doesn't it? 583 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,360 It's all spiritual. It is. It is. It's overwhelming, but it's class. 584 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,920 {\an2}You've actually done it. Thank you. It was so brilliant. I'm so glad you invited me. Thank you. 585 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,360 I'm glad you did it. Well done. 586 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,360 I was really terrified at the start. 587 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120 It's kind of like there's literally nothing else to think about. 588 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,000 {\an2}And it's really, really, really hard to empty your brain of thoughts and worries. 589 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,280 I think I will do it again. I do. I think I'll do it again. 590 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,520 {\an8}Like lots of the people I met on the beach today, 591 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,200 {\an8}I'm working through my own experiences. 592 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,000 Serena and her amazing community 593 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,400 are doing their bit to support each other and stay positive. 594 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,840 And that's something Derry is very good at. 595 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,800 {\an2}But it's not always easy because there can still be outbreaks of violence here 596 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,880 that wouldn't be normal in other parts of the UK. 597 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,320 In 2019, Belfast-born journalist Lyra McKee was shot 598 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600 while observing rioting in Derry. 599 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960 She died later in hospital. 600 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,920 Obviously it was shocking that somebody had died, 601 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,880 and obviously it was heartbreaking and should never have happened. 602 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,840 The fact that there was unrest in that part of Derry wasn't shocking, 603 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,280 {\an2}in any part of Derry. I'm sure people in Belfast or whatever will tell you the same, 604 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,440 {\an2}it's not that it's overly shocking. There's still civil unrest here. There just is. 605 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,800 {\an2}Lyra was killed on the Creggan estate, not far from where I grew up. 606 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,600 Here tensions remain between some of the residents and the place. 607 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,480 {\an2}I've arranged to catch up with Jordan, one of the girls I met earlier in my old school, 608 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880 to find out what life's like here now. 609 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,880 Hey. What's the craic? Lovely to see you. Good to see you again. 610 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,080 Out of your uniform. I know. It's great. 611 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,320 How long have you lived in Creggan? Oh, my whole life. 612 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,040 {\an2}It's a real sense of community. I used to hang around here when I was younger. I grew up beside here. 613 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,960 I know Creggan well. A lot of my family and friends are from there. 614 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080 I hung around there, grew up there. 615 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,440 {\an2}Had a couple of sneaky alcoholic beverages there when I was too young. 616 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,600 {\an2}We used to hang around sort of the youth clubs and stuff, like St Mary's and stuff. Aye. 617 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,480 Do you still do that? What's it like now for young people? 618 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,280 {\an2}Erm, St Mary's actually got done up. Oh, did it? Aye. It's massive looking now. 619 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,520 {\an2}They've put loads of new equipment in it. Obviously, you ran round here, as well. 620 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,640 I did. What was it that you would have done? 621 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,840 {\an4}I don't think we can say it on camera. THEY LAUGH 622 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,880 Obviously, like a lot of estates in a lot of places, 623 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,520 there's some negative as well as the positive. Yeah. 624 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,840 And obviously we know what's happened with Lyra McKee. 625 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,120 {\an2}Have you noticed, from younger to now, a difference in police presence? 626 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520 Obviously, there is a police presence, 627 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,360 but there's a police presence everywhere you go in Derry. Mm. 628 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,640 {\an2}It's never been, like, scary or, like, extra violent, except for obviously what happened. 629 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,920 {\an2}If anything, I think it kind of just brought the community closer together. Right. 630 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,720 {\an2}There was a vigil down there for her and I think the whole of Creggan had come out of their houses 631 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,280 and had come down and had stood and had prayed for her. 632 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,360 {\an2}Do you think that there's a fair representation of Creggan in the media at the moment? 633 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,040 {\an2}I think sometimes Creggan can get a wee bit of an unfair viewpoint from some people. 634 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,640 {\an2}It's not every single day something like that happens. That was really, really... random 635 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,760 {\an2}and out of the blue, and nothing like that has ever happened in my lifetime. 636 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,720 You feel quite safe. 637 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,440 There's a plane. That's what it is. Paps in Creggan. 638 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,640 I'm keen to know whether Jordan will stay in Derry after her A-levels. 639 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,080 {\an2}Both of us went to St Cecilia's, which is school on Creggan, I know there's more, 640 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,320 {\an2}but I feel like the schools, especially the girls schools in Derry, 641 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,920 they really set women up for hopefully a brighter future. 642 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680 What do you see for your future? What's the plans for Jordan? 643 00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:53,640 I have applied to uni in Leeds to do mental health and counselling, 644 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,520 cos I wanna go on to be a rehabilitation counsellor 645 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,600 and come back and work in Derry. Cos I feel like Derry needs it. 646 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,560 {\an2}Just experience something else and bring back all the experiences. Aye. Definitely. 647 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,600 {\an2}Obviously, you'll meet new friends from different backgrounds and different cultures. 648 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,760 {\an2}Would you be keen to bring them back to show them Derry? Oh, 100 percent. 649 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,800 I'm proud of Derry. They're gonna be told about all the great things. 650 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,320 They're gonna be told about Halloween and St Patrick's Day 651 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,280 and about how Derry has so many things to offer people. 652 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,680 Mad about it. Right, thank you so much. 653 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,560 I couldn't agree more. And with young women like Jordan 654 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,960 keen to make her city a better place, 655 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,120 I feel like Derry's future is looking bright. 656 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,680 ALL: Happy St Patrick's Day! 657 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:45,360 St Patrick's Day is a celebration of Irish culture for everybody. 658 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,680 Everybody wants to celebrate it and take part. It's all inclusive. 659 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,280 Hello! How are you? Hi, Julie, what's the craic? 660 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,800 Of all the people I've met during filming, 661 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,880 I'm most surprised to bump into Julie from the flute band. 662 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,760 Because not all Protestants celebrate Ireland's patron saint. 663 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,720 Love the green. Thank you. It's like a stylish Paddy's Day, isn't it? 664 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,560 How are yous guys? We're very good. 665 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,240 While she's been in the town on St Patrick's Day before, 666 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,880 this is the first time Julie has been to watch the parade. 667 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,600 Just with the whole, the fact that this is obviously tricolours, 668 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,880 {\an2}does that bother you at all, or is it something that you're really happy about? 669 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,320 {\an2}It doesn't bother me, cos when we're at the 12th of July, it's Union flags. 670 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:34,040 {\an2}When you're down here, it's tricolours everywhere. It doesn't really matter to me. 671 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,520 {\an2}In what way do you think Paddy's Day compares to the 12th? Or is it really similar? 672 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,680 {\an2}You know, it's packed, there's so many people about, you get to interact with people, 673 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,600 it's so similar what they actually are and what you do on the day. 674 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,560 It's just sort of different sides of one coin. 675 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,360 {\an2}It was genuinely lovely to see yous. I hope you have a great day and get your well-deserved pints. 676 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,440 Julie's positivity about our city is infectious. 677 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,080 And on a day like today, with the sun shining, 678 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,520 I'm proud to call myself a Derry girl. 679 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,680 Mind you, I'm still working through my own feelings 680 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,600 about growing up in this brilliant but complicated wee place. 681 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:18,600 {\an2}But I'm more convinced than ever that there will be a bright future for all of us. 682 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,920 I just feel like Derry's gonna be booming. 683 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,200 I've got so much positive expectations of Derry. 684 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,000 I think there does seem to be this thing of people are realising 685 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,560 you don't always have to leave Derry to become something. 686 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,960 And if you do, you can always come back and bring it back. 687 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,320 And that the older you get, again, from my own perspective, 688 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,560 {\an2}the more I realise that the Derry community is responsible, in a large way, to who I am and my success. 689 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,560 {\an2}But the fact that we're able to get where we are with the lack of resources, 690 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,800 can you imagine what we could do if we were fully resourced? 691 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,440 Can you imagine what Derry people could achieve? 692 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,560 Subtitles by Red Bee Media