1 00:00:01,415 --> 00:00:04,038 [ominous music] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:09,492 --> 00:00:12,150 [glasses clinking] 5 00:00:12,184 --> 00:00:13,530 - [Gene Cernan] I put the binocu 6 00:00:13,565 --> 00:00:15,705 and I can see it spinning around 7 00:00:15,739 --> 00:00:18,777 and I wouldn't bet my life on it being the S4B, 8 00:00:18,811 --> 00:00:21,745 but it sure has gotta be something like it. 9 00:00:21,780 --> 00:00:24,714 - [Reporter] That was Gene Cernan reporting that sighting. 10 00:00:24,748 --> 00:00:25,577 Orbit 11 00:00:26,785 --> 00:00:28,442 - We were that first crew that was going to get a chance 12 00:00:28,476 --> 00:00:31,997 to fly this vehicle and test thi 13 00:00:32,032 --> 00:00:36,105 that was going to take human beings to the Moon. 14 00:00:36,139 --> 00:00:38,935 [dramatic music] 15 00:00:48,496 --> 00:00:50,843 - [Narrator] Mankind makes one g 16 00:00:50,878 --> 00:00:53,329 and lands the first man on the M 17 00:00:53,363 --> 00:00:55,883 a historic achievement for the h 18 00:00:57,298 --> 00:01:01,716 But that giant leap took many lunges, trips and falls 19 00:01:01,751 --> 00:01:04,892 in order for our astronauts to actually achieve this moment. 20 00:01:06,135 --> 00:01:10,035 And along the way, many space researchers have speculated 21 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:13,970 that our astronauts may have see 22 00:01:14,004 --> 00:01:17,042 and anomalous structures on the surface of the Moon. 23 00:01:22,496 --> 00:01:23,600 - You know, we have a, 24 00:01:23,635 --> 00:01:27,156 it's a very interesting little document from 1950, 25 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:28,881 there was a Canadian government 26 00:01:28,916 --> 00:01:29,917 named Wilbert Smith, 27 00:01:31,401 --> 00:01:33,955 and he was very interested in these flying saucers. 28 00:01:33,990 --> 00:01:35,923 Wilbert Smith was a real smart g 29 00:01:35,957 --> 00:01:37,649 He was an engineer, he was a sci 30 00:01:37,683 --> 00:01:40,548 and he had a kind of a mid-upper level position 31 00:01:40,583 --> 00:01:42,240 in the Canadian bureaucracy 32 00:01:42,274 --> 00:01:45,346 and he was able to go down to Washington DC 33 00:01:45,381 --> 00:01:47,831 in September, 1950 to the Canadian Embassy there. 34 00:01:47,866 --> 00:01:51,835 And while he was hanging around DC he goes and talks 35 00:01:51,870 --> 00:01:55,149 to some American scientists and one in particular. 36 00:01:55,184 --> 00:01:58,463 And this was a scientist who was very well plugged in, 37 00:01:59,498 --> 00:02:02,743 and this man, man whose name was Robert Sarbacher, 38 00:02:02,777 --> 00:02:04,158 we learned many years later. 39 00:02:05,055 --> 00:02:07,092 It was very, very powerful. 40 00:02:07,127 --> 00:02:10,647 Sarbacher says, yes, flying sauces do exist. 41 00:02:10,682 --> 00:02:12,856 I can confirm that for you. 42 00:02:12,891 --> 00:02:15,100 Their modus operandi is unknown, 43 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:16,860 but the United States government 44 00:02:16,895 --> 00:02:20,830 this the most classified subject 45 00:02:20,864 --> 00:02:24,489 of all two levels higher than the hydrogen bomb, 46 00:02:24,523 --> 00:02:28,078 which in 1950 was about as big as you could get, 47 00:02:28,113 --> 00:02:30,115 but flying saucers were higher t 48 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:32,428 So Smith types up this memo for his supervisors 49 00:02:32,462 --> 00:02:36,535 in the Canadian government, and, uh, that's that. 50 00:02:36,570 --> 00:02:37,881 But actually, that wasn't that, 51 00:02:37,916 --> 00:02:40,263 because years after he died, 52 00:02:40,298 --> 00:02:43,922 his private papers were analyzed 53 00:02:43,956 --> 00:02:48,616 and the exact name of that scientist was written there. 54 00:02:48,651 --> 00:02:52,206 And that scientist, Robert Sarbacher was still alive 55 00:02:52,241 --> 00:02:53,276 and researchers found him. 56 00:02:53,311 --> 00:02:55,899 Sarbacher confirmed the whole thing. 57 00:02:55,934 --> 00:02:58,385 He said, "Yeah, that actually did happen." 58 00:02:58,419 --> 00:03:00,697 So anyway, my point simply is, 59 00:03:00,732 --> 00:03:06,531 you've got very clear knowledge among the highest 60 00:03:07,497 --> 00:03:12,053 circles in Washington back in 1950, for example. 61 00:03:13,020 --> 00:03:17,473 And in the military back in 1950 that, yes, 62 00:03:17,507 --> 00:03:21,235 absolutely UFOs were the most sensitive subject out there. 63 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:23,410 Now, ask yourself, why would that be. 64 00:03:24,652 --> 00:03:27,241 You know, why would that be the most sensitive subject 65 00:03:27,276 --> 00:03:30,244 if it was all nonsense and hallucinations 66 00:03:30,279 --> 00:03:32,453 and hoaxes and things like this? You know? 67 00:03:33,282 --> 00:03:36,423 Well, obviously it's a lot more than that. 68 00:03:36,457 --> 00:03:38,908 And when you go through the declassified literature 69 00:03:38,942 --> 00:03:41,842 such that we have, there's still a lot we don't have, 70 00:03:41,876 --> 00:03:45,363 but we have enough to show very, very clearly 71 00:03:45,397 --> 00:03:48,676 you had countless violations of sensitive aerospace 72 00:03:48,711 --> 00:03:50,851 by objects that did not look normal, that were not, 73 00:03:50,885 --> 00:03:54,337 that were doing things that were not supposed to be possible 74 00:03:55,407 --> 00:03:58,238 over places that you were never supposed to go. 75 00:03:58,859 --> 00:04:01,517 Alright, whether that means over Los Alamos, you know, 76 00:04:01,551 --> 00:04:03,898 where the scientists developed the atomic bomb 77 00:04:03,933 --> 00:04:07,177 or the Hanford Nuclear Plant in the state of Washington, 78 00:04:07,212 --> 00:04:11,734 which was a major plutonium processing facility, 79 00:04:12,113 --> 00:04:14,288 a lot of toxic waste there to this day. 80 00:04:14,323 --> 00:04:18,775 Or over the Oak Ridge, uh, nuclear facility in Tennessee 81 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:20,950 where again, a great deal of science 82 00:04:20,984 --> 00:04:24,022 on the atomic bomb was developed. 83 00:04:24,056 --> 00:04:25,368 All of these very sensitive places, 84 00:04:25,403 --> 00:04:27,094 you don't just go hang out over them, 85 00:04:27,128 --> 00:04:28,889 but UFOs were hanging out over them 86 00:04:29,786 --> 00:04:32,444 and, you know, jets would be sent to intercept. 87 00:04:33,169 --> 00:04:34,929 In one case, we know of 88 00:04:34,964 --> 00:04:37,277 anti-aircraft battalions were alerted. 89 00:04:37,967 --> 00:04:39,209 You know, [laughs] 90 00:04:39,244 --> 00:04:41,764 Can you imagine if the public knew about this at the time? 91 00:04:42,523 --> 00:04:43,904 They didn't, they didn't find out 92 00:04:43,938 --> 00:04:45,181 until years and years later 93 00:04:45,215 --> 00:04:47,287 after these documents were declassified. 94 00:04:47,321 --> 00:04:48,253 By then, they were just sunk 95 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:50,738 into the black hole of the public memory 96 00:04:50,773 --> 00:04:53,327 and, you know, no one really seemed to care. 97 00:04:53,362 --> 00:04:56,744 But back in 1950, if these incidents had become known, 98 00:04:56,779 --> 00:04:59,160 I think people would've cared quite a bit. 99 00:04:59,195 --> 00:05:00,852 Uh, they were very important. 100 00:05:00,886 --> 00:05:03,337 My point here simply is this, 101 00:05:03,372 --> 00:05:08,342 the subject of UFOs has always been considered 102 00:05:08,687 --> 00:05:13,313 to be of the highest level of security classification 103 00:05:13,347 --> 00:05:14,693 that we know of. 104 00:05:14,728 --> 00:05:17,593 And so now, if you've got NASA 105 00:05:19,284 --> 00:05:24,462 engaged in any capacity with the United States military 106 00:05:24,496 --> 00:05:27,913 on any type of classified mission that it engages in, 107 00:05:27,948 --> 00:05:31,779 there is no way ever 108 00:05:31,814 --> 00:05:34,851 that they're just gonna tell the world, 109 00:05:34,886 --> 00:05:38,234 oh look, there are all these UFOs, people. 110 00:05:38,268 --> 00:05:39,373 How cool is that? 111 00:05:39,408 --> 00:05:41,479 Now, that will never happen. 112 00:05:41,513 --> 00:05:45,310 That will never happen until the laws change 113 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:47,381 and those laws haven't changed. 114 00:05:47,416 --> 00:05:49,556 This subject still remains highly classified 115 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:51,351 even well into the 21st century. 116 00:05:51,385 --> 00:05:52,179 It is... 117 00:05:53,353 --> 00:05:54,595 You know, we can talk a little bit more about it now 118 00:05:54,630 --> 00:05:56,079 than say a few years ago. 119 00:05:56,114 --> 00:05:57,978 That's interesting and that's true, 120 00:05:58,875 --> 00:06:01,878 but there's... you know, there's still a red line 121 00:06:01,913 --> 00:06:03,949 and thou shall not go over that red line. 122 00:06:15,892 --> 00:06:17,549 - It was one of these clear, clear days 123 00:06:17,584 --> 00:06:18,619 and that's why I was up, 124 00:06:18,654 --> 00:06:21,311 because you could see to infiniti, 125 00:06:21,346 --> 00:06:24,004 and it was an ideal day for aerial photography. 126 00:06:24,038 --> 00:06:26,903 And it appeared silver with a shadow underneath 127 00:06:26,938 --> 00:06:28,698 There's always metallic. 128 00:06:28,733 --> 00:06:30,355 And it was moving at a rate of speed, 129 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:34,394 I would say 150 miles an hour plus or minus. 130 00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:37,983 And appeared to be maybe 20 meters across. 131 00:06:38,018 --> 00:06:40,641 - [Speaker] We decided to analyze the Catalina film. 132 00:06:41,539 --> 00:06:43,506 - And there seems to be some holes 133 00:06:43,541 --> 00:06:46,302 or some kind of transparency underneath here. 134 00:06:46,336 --> 00:06:48,097 One takes a good look at this 135 00:06:48,131 --> 00:06:50,340 and considering that the speed of the object 136 00:06:52,066 --> 00:06:54,759 as reported by Lee Hansen, the photographer, 137 00:06:54,793 --> 00:06:58,003 is that this is moving at about 120 miles an hour. 138 00:06:58,038 --> 00:07:01,593 This begins to look like a small commercial airplane, 139 00:07:01,628 --> 00:07:03,250 and one can draw the comparison 140 00:07:03,284 --> 00:07:05,770 that you have the bright wing on the top, 141 00:07:05,804 --> 00:07:10,360 the windows and the flyer, the rudder structure, 142 00:07:10,395 --> 00:07:11,776 and that's it. 143 00:07:11,810 --> 00:07:13,605 The Catalina film, I'm afraid, 144 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,540 falls into the category of an identified flying airplane. 145 00:07:17,575 --> 00:07:20,232 [ominous music] 146 00:07:27,550 --> 00:07:30,346 [dramatic music] 147 00:07:42,496 --> 00:07:43,497 - [Narrator] The Lunar Orbiter missions 148 00:07:43,532 --> 00:07:46,638 were initiated in early 1964 149 00:07:46,673 --> 00:07:50,262 and consisted of five identical unmanned spacecraft 150 00:07:50,297 --> 00:07:52,851 to investigate the surface of the Moon. 151 00:07:52,886 --> 00:07:56,199 The main purpose of the program was to locate 152 00:07:56,234 --> 00:07:59,651 smooth level areas on the Moon's near side 153 00:07:59,686 --> 00:08:03,275 to confirm the areas as suitable for manned landing sites 154 00:08:03,310 --> 00:08:05,208 for the Apollo program. 155 00:08:05,243 --> 00:08:07,832 Other program objectives were to collect data 156 00:08:07,866 --> 00:08:09,661 on the Moon's gravitational field 157 00:08:09,696 --> 00:08:12,664 to provide precision trajectory information 158 00:08:12,699 --> 00:08:15,736 and study radiation and micrometeoroid flux 159 00:08:15,771 --> 00:08:17,324 in the vicinity of the Moon. 160 00:08:18,256 --> 00:08:21,259 The Orbiter took pictures of the Moon's surface, 161 00:08:21,293 --> 00:08:23,779 more than 90% of the pictures taken 162 00:08:23,813 --> 00:08:25,884 were transmitted successfully, 163 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:28,646 including the historic Earth rise, 164 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,305 taken from the Moon on August 23rd, 1966. 165 00:08:47,596 --> 00:08:50,668 The Orbiter also obtained environmental data 166 00:08:50,702 --> 00:08:52,773 during all periods of visibility 167 00:08:54,119 --> 00:08:56,950 Some photographs were not transmitted. 168 00:08:56,984 --> 00:08:59,262 However, when the transmitting equipment failed 169 00:08:59,297 --> 00:09:01,092 during the readout operation, 170 00:09:01,126 --> 00:09:03,888 only a small number of pictures were lost 171 00:09:03,922 --> 00:09:07,408 and other data collection was not affected. 172 00:09:07,443 --> 00:09:10,515 Lunar Orbiter 2 made significant additions 173 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:13,967 to the techniques and data required to land on the Moon. 174 00:09:14,001 --> 00:09:17,211 Mission 3 differed from the previous two missions 175 00:09:17,246 --> 00:09:19,869 in that it was a site-confirmation mission 176 00:09:19,904 --> 00:09:22,182 rather than a site-selection mission. 177 00:09:26,496 --> 00:09:30,397 Despite some operational problems during the mission, 178 00:09:30,431 --> 00:09:32,399 Orbiter 4 was highly successful 179 00:09:32,433 --> 00:09:33,987 in fulfilling its purpose. 180 00:09:35,264 --> 00:09:39,302 The photographs obtained, provided information and detail 181 00:09:39,337 --> 00:09:43,410 at least 10 times better than Earth-based observations. 182 00:09:43,444 --> 00:09:46,447 The photography captured during Mission 5 183 00:09:46,482 --> 00:09:50,728 was an incredible improvement in resolution from Mission 4. 184 00:09:50,762 --> 00:09:53,075 This allowed NASA to gain better insight 185 00:09:53,109 --> 00:09:56,423 into sites of interest on the near side of the Moon. 186 00:09:57,769 --> 00:10:00,600 The far side photography provided coverage 187 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:03,533 of essentially all areas not cov 188 00:10:03,568 --> 00:10:05,535 during the preceding four missions. 189 00:10:11,783 --> 00:10:15,580 In the early two thousands, a former Air Force technician 190 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:18,894 specializing in photographic printer repair, 191 00:10:18,928 --> 00:10:22,483 made a shocking statement to the public about his experience 192 00:10:22,518 --> 00:10:25,763 while working for the NSA during the 1960s. 193 00:10:25,797 --> 00:10:29,007 - I said, who's, what do you mean who's. 194 00:10:29,042 --> 00:10:31,009 He said, yes, there's, we've discovered 195 00:10:31,044 --> 00:10:32,632 a base on the backside of the Moon. 196 00:10:32,666 --> 00:10:36,739 And at that point I became frightened. 197 00:10:36,774 --> 00:10:40,847 - [Narrator] Another now famous unidentified lunar object 198 00:10:40,881 --> 00:10:45,610 was spotted by the Lunar Orbiter 3 in February of 1967, 199 00:10:46,542 --> 00:10:50,442 a total of 149 medium resolution 200 00:10:50,477 --> 00:10:54,205 and 477 high resolution frames 201 00:10:54,239 --> 00:10:56,586 were returned from this mission. 202 00:10:56,621 --> 00:10:58,692 And in one composite image, 203 00:10:58,727 --> 00:11:02,420 an object known as The Shard can be seen. 204 00:11:02,454 --> 00:11:06,355 This object was supposedly located between the Bruce Crater 205 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:09,599 and the Sinus midi mare plain area of the Moon. 206 00:11:10,531 --> 00:11:12,706 NASA has never acknowledged this phenomenon. 207 00:11:16,745 --> 00:11:19,471 [dramatic music] 208 00:11:28,066 --> 00:11:31,691 [dramatic music continues] 209 00:11:40,113 --> 00:11:42,425 - And then he pulled out one of these mosaics 210 00:11:42,460 --> 00:11:47,051 and showed this base which had geometric shapes. 211 00:11:47,085 --> 00:11:51,745 There were towers, there were spherical buildings. 212 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:54,506 There were very tall towers and things 213 00:11:54,541 --> 00:11:56,508 that looked somewhat like radar dishes, 214 00:11:56,543 --> 00:11:58,683 but they were large structures. 215 00:11:58,718 --> 00:12:02,307 [dramatic music continues] 216 00:12:09,176 --> 00:12:12,939 So it was rare that someone would do something like this, 217 00:12:12,973 --> 00:12:14,768 but this fellow and I were the same rank. 218 00:12:14,803 --> 00:12:18,082 I think he was very distressed. 219 00:12:18,116 --> 00:12:20,291 He had the same power and demeanor 220 00:12:20,325 --> 00:12:21,844 as the scientists outside the room. 221 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:24,329 They were just as concerned as he was 222 00:12:24,364 --> 00:12:27,885 and he needed to discuss it with somebody. 223 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:30,508 So, that was the end of it right there. 224 00:12:30,542 --> 00:12:33,097 I didn't take it any further than that. 225 00:12:33,131 --> 00:12:36,548 I just filed it away. 226 00:12:36,583 --> 00:12:40,414 But the interesting thing, every day that I went home, 227 00:12:40,449 --> 00:12:41,415 I would think to myself, 228 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:43,901 I can't wait to hear about this on the news. 229 00:12:45,626 --> 00:12:48,181 So I'd turn on the TV and I'd look at the news 230 00:12:48,215 --> 00:12:50,700 to see if they're gonna announce we've discovered a base 231 00:12:50,735 --> 00:12:53,703 on the back side of the Moon being really naive. 232 00:12:54,981 --> 00:12:57,535 And of course, here it is 30 some years later, 233 00:12:57,569 --> 00:12:59,433 and we still haven't heard about it. 234 00:13:00,641 --> 00:13:03,437 - Researcher and filmmaker, James Fox, 235 00:13:03,472 --> 00:13:05,267 started his journey into UFOs 236 00:13:06,164 --> 00:13:08,822 through Apollo astronaut testimony. 237 00:13:08,857 --> 00:13:13,275 - Basically, out of this whole UFO phenomenon, 238 00:13:14,172 --> 00:13:18,314 when did you become interested in the idea 239 00:13:18,349 --> 00:13:23,354 that NASA astronauts have seen UFOs in space 240 00:13:24,010 --> 00:13:26,978 and that possibly had been covered up? 241 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:31,017 - I never did, until I wasn't like 242 00:13:31,051 --> 00:13:35,573 actively looking for UFOs in space, NASA. 243 00:13:38,024 --> 00:13:42,511 I watched an interview in the early nineties 244 00:13:42,545 --> 00:13:44,789 with Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell, 245 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:46,687 sixth man to walk the Moon. 246 00:13:46,722 --> 00:13:50,657 And he talked about UFOs very openly, and I thought, 247 00:13:50,691 --> 00:13:52,417 here's a man who's got everything to lose 248 00:13:52,452 --> 00:13:54,903 and nothing to gain by what he's doing. 249 00:13:54,937 --> 00:13:57,595 - [Reporter] It's the sort of disclosure UFO investigators 250 00:13:57,629 --> 00:14:00,356 are demanding from the US government. 251 00:14:00,391 --> 00:14:01,771 How would people react? 252 00:14:03,290 --> 00:14:05,637 - That would be kind of good it's about time. 253 00:14:05,672 --> 00:14:07,018 - [Reporter] Former astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, 254 00:14:07,053 --> 00:14:09,572 is the sixth man to walk on the Moon 255 00:14:09,607 --> 00:14:11,643 and a firm believer that aliens 256 00:14:11,678 --> 00:14:14,405 have visited our planet repeatedly. 257 00:14:14,439 --> 00:14:15,889 So I had to ask, 258 00:14:15,924 --> 00:14:18,961 why are they coming in these little glancing visits 259 00:14:18,996 --> 00:14:22,137 and we haven't had a more meaningful dialogue 260 00:14:22,171 --> 00:14:24,656 or contact or attempt to communicate with these people? 261 00:14:24,691 --> 00:14:26,037 - Well, I think we have. 262 00:14:26,072 --> 00:14:27,211 - [Reporter] Really? 263 00:14:27,245 --> 00:14:30,248 - I think we have, but it is not common knowledge. 264 00:14:30,283 --> 00:14:31,318 - [Reporter] Mitchell told me after 265 00:14:31,353 --> 00:14:32,664 he returned from the Moon, 266 00:14:32,699 --> 00:14:35,944 he was briefed at the Pentagon by a high ranking officer, 267 00:14:35,978 --> 00:14:37,842 whose name he would not reveal, 268 00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:40,845 who said the US government does have evidence 269 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,745 of alien spacecraft and is keeping it a secret. 270 00:14:44,780 --> 00:14:45,815 - Well, I think the real reason 271 00:14:45,850 --> 00:14:48,370 it is still a secret is power and control, 272 00:14:48,404 --> 00:14:51,062 controlling whatever technology exists. 273 00:14:51,097 --> 00:14:53,030 - [Reporter] All of this is fascinating stuff, 274 00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:54,238 if it is true. 275 00:14:54,272 --> 00:14:57,344 - I mean, I've talked to government insiders 276 00:14:57,379 --> 00:14:58,483 and intelligence folks 277 00:14:58,518 --> 00:15:00,969 and they kinda laugh at it, 278 00:15:01,003 --> 00:15:02,936 but obviously, they have secret craft 279 00:15:02,971 --> 00:15:05,007 that we don't know about, that's obvious. 280 00:15:05,042 --> 00:15:07,285 But whether they have successfully reversed engineered 281 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,942 what they've recovered in Roswell, 282 00:15:08,977 --> 00:15:13,567 that's something that I have not seen the evidence for. 283 00:15:13,602 --> 00:15:15,949 I'm not saying definitively that it didn't happen, 284 00:15:15,984 --> 00:15:18,055 that they weren't successfully reverse engineered. 285 00:15:18,089 --> 00:15:20,229 I have seen zero evidence of it. 286 00:15:20,264 --> 00:15:22,335 That's just me and people can disagree 287 00:15:22,369 --> 00:15:23,888 all they want and that's fine. 288 00:15:25,338 --> 00:15:27,857 [eerie music] 289 00:15:33,794 --> 00:15:37,108 [eerie music continues] 290 00:15:42,872 --> 00:15:46,186 [eerie music continues] 291 00:15:53,124 --> 00:15:56,472 [eerie music continues] 292 00:16:02,064 --> 00:16:05,412 [eerie music continues] 293 00:16:10,141 --> 00:16:12,902 [dramatic music] 294 00:16:19,530 --> 00:16:23,085 [dramatic music continues] 295 00:16:34,062 --> 00:16:37,030 - [Narrator] The Apollo missions began in an irregular way 296 00:16:37,065 --> 00:16:40,033 compared to the previous man capsule missions. 297 00:16:40,068 --> 00:16:42,104 This turned out disastrous 298 00:16:42,139 --> 00:16:44,486 for the first Apollo 1 test pilots. 299 00:16:46,453 --> 00:16:50,043 Apollo 2 and 3, which were unmanned, 300 00:16:50,078 --> 00:16:54,944 were called AS-202 and AS-203 respectively, 301 00:16:54,979 --> 00:16:57,395 in which the newly designed Apollo capsule 302 00:16:57,430 --> 00:17:00,847 was married to the Saturn 1B rocket vehicle system. 303 00:17:02,952 --> 00:17:07,405 July 5th, 1966, an unmanned flight 304 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,890 of the Saturn 1B rocket, 305 00:17:09,925 --> 00:17:12,790 it carried no command and service module 306 00:17:12,824 --> 00:17:15,551 as its purpose was to verify the design 307 00:17:15,586 --> 00:17:19,383 of the S4B rocket stage restart capability. 308 00:17:19,417 --> 00:17:21,937 This would later be used in the Apollo program 309 00:17:21,971 --> 00:17:24,422 to boost astronauts from Earth orbit 310 00:17:24,457 --> 00:17:26,079 on a trajectory to the Moon. 311 00:17:26,114 --> 00:17:28,047 It achieved its goals, 312 00:17:28,081 --> 00:17:31,878 but the stage was inadvertently destroyed after four orbits. 313 00:17:33,983 --> 00:17:38,022 Launched unmanned on August 25th, 1966 314 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:42,164 by a Saturn 1B vector and suborbital flight, 315 00:17:42,199 --> 00:17:44,235 this flight was used to perform tests 316 00:17:44,270 --> 00:17:46,513 on the command and service module, 317 00:17:46,548 --> 00:17:48,998 which was later recovered destined 318 00:17:49,033 --> 00:17:51,311 to perform a man landing on the Moon. 319 00:17:58,870 --> 00:18:03,806 On January 27th, 1967 at Launchpad 34 320 00:18:03,841 --> 00:18:05,601 at the Kennedy Space Center, 321 00:18:05,636 --> 00:18:08,639 astronauts Grissom, White and Chaffee 322 00:18:08,673 --> 00:18:13,264 were sealed inside of their spacecraft for a plugs out test. 323 00:18:19,822 --> 00:18:23,102 The spacecraft was pressurized with pure oxygen. 324 00:18:23,136 --> 00:18:25,207 Numerous communication problems 325 00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:28,003 were encountered during the test 326 00:18:28,037 --> 00:18:29,108 [radio static crackling] 327 00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:37,150 [radio static crackling] 328 00:18:41,085 --> 00:18:43,018 - [Narrator] Suddenly a spark occurred 329 00:18:43,052 --> 00:18:44,606 in the wiring of the spacecraft 330 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,401 somewhere below Grissom's feet. 331 00:18:47,850 --> 00:18:50,439 In the pure oxygen atmosphere, the fire 332 00:18:50,474 --> 00:18:54,029 flashed through the spacecraft consuming anything flammable. 333 00:18:58,896 --> 00:19:02,520 The crews struggled to open the hatch of the command module. 334 00:19:02,555 --> 00:19:05,627 It was a complex task that required too much time. 335 00:19:09,596 --> 00:19:11,529 Before they could open the hatch, 336 00:19:11,564 --> 00:19:14,463 the fumes given off from the fire asphyxiated them. 337 00:19:17,501 --> 00:19:20,055 [ominous music] 338 00:19:20,089 --> 00:19:22,575 [radio static crackling] 339 00:19:22,609 --> 00:19:24,508 - [Gus Grissom] Fire! 340 00:19:27,304 --> 00:19:30,721 [radio static crackling] 341 00:19:36,278 --> 00:19:39,695 [radio static crackling] 342 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:44,562 - One thing to take note of about the Apollo 1 mission 343 00:19:44,597 --> 00:19:47,738 is that many of the astronauts were very nervous 344 00:19:47,772 --> 00:19:52,260 about this Apollo spacecraft and its rapid buildup. 345 00:19:52,294 --> 00:19:57,092 Concurrently with the Gemini mission still being finished. 346 00:19:58,266 --> 00:19:59,543 Many of the astronauts were being 347 00:19:59,577 --> 00:20:01,821 swapped over to the Apollo mission 348 00:20:01,855 --> 00:20:06,205 and this rapid buildup looked like 349 00:20:06,239 --> 00:20:08,621 it was going to cause malfunctions 350 00:20:08,655 --> 00:20:11,969 and errors to that spacecraft. 351 00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:16,456 Walter Schirra, he actually commented to Gus Grissom, 352 00:20:16,491 --> 00:20:20,805 one of the pilots of the early Gemini project 353 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,912 that had been swapped over to Apollo 1, 354 00:20:23,946 --> 00:20:25,810 that something didn't ring right 355 00:20:25,845 --> 00:20:27,640 about the Apollo 1 spacecraft 356 00:20:27,674 --> 00:20:31,368 and that if he saw any signs of trouble 357 00:20:31,402 --> 00:20:33,715 that he should get out quickly. 358 00:20:35,061 --> 00:20:36,683 - [Narrator] After this disastrous fire 359 00:20:36,718 --> 00:20:38,789 during the Apollo 1 test, 360 00:20:38,823 --> 00:20:41,930 NASA decided to run many successive test flights 361 00:20:41,964 --> 00:20:43,483 that were unmanned. 362 00:20:43,518 --> 00:20:46,106 Mike Bara famously co-authored the book 363 00:20:46,141 --> 00:20:48,937 "Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA" 364 00:20:48,971 --> 00:20:51,629 in which he speculates with photo evidence 365 00:20:51,664 --> 00:20:55,254 that NASA has been covering up anomalies on the Moon. 366 00:20:55,288 --> 00:20:57,152 - The other possibility is that 367 00:20:57,186 --> 00:20:59,637 we have had far more advanced technology 368 00:20:59,672 --> 00:21:02,847 than we will acknowledge for the last 60, 70 years. 369 00:21:02,882 --> 00:21:06,230 And it's some of our guys having a little fun 370 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,025 with the spam in a can. 371 00:21:08,059 --> 00:21:11,097 Dudes that are stuck in the Apollo program. 372 00:21:11,131 --> 00:21:13,237 That's what Gus Grissom once referred to Apollo as 373 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,929 is we're spam in a can, he was overheard to say, 374 00:21:15,964 --> 00:21:17,552 and they've been to the Moon already, 375 00:21:17,586 --> 00:21:18,587 they've been to Mars already. 376 00:21:18,622 --> 00:21:20,934 They got technology we can't even dream of here 377 00:21:20,969 --> 00:21:24,455 and they're sticking us up here in these rickety old rockets 378 00:21:24,490 --> 00:21:25,456 and risking our lives. 379 00:21:25,491 --> 00:21:27,562 And of course, he ended up losing his life 380 00:21:27,596 --> 00:21:30,185 and a lot of people have a lot of suspicions about that, 381 00:21:30,219 --> 00:21:33,533 that he was such a vocal advocate for the fact 382 00:21:33,568 --> 00:21:35,570 that they had better technology than they were using 383 00:21:35,604 --> 00:21:36,433 to go to the Moon 384 00:21:36,467 --> 00:21:38,814 and it really made him angry 385 00:21:38,849 --> 00:21:40,437 and could have made him a target. 386 00:21:44,924 --> 00:21:47,892 - [Narrator] November 9th, 1967 was the day 387 00:21:47,927 --> 00:21:51,620 in which the Saturn 5 launch vehicle was first tested. 388 00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:54,934 This was the rocket that would send astronauts to the Moon. 389 00:21:56,418 --> 00:21:59,110 [ominous music] 390 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:06,463 On April 4th, 1968, this unmanned flight 391 00:22:06,497 --> 00:22:09,189 tested the Saturn 5's ability to perform 392 00:22:09,224 --> 00:22:13,780 a trans lunar injection using 80% of the payload, 393 00:22:13,815 --> 00:22:17,405 which the later manned mission would perform again. 394 00:22:17,439 --> 00:22:21,823 Unfortunately, the phenomenon known as the Pogo Effect 395 00:22:21,857 --> 00:22:25,516 damaged the two Rocketdyne engines on the second stage 396 00:22:25,551 --> 00:22:28,381 when the internal fuel lines ruptured. 397 00:22:28,416 --> 00:22:32,558 The Rocketdyne J2 engine on the S4B third stage 398 00:22:32,592 --> 00:22:36,424 also failed to restart trans lunar injection. 399 00:22:36,458 --> 00:22:40,531 So the correct trans lunar velocity could not be achieved. 400 00:22:40,566 --> 00:22:44,224 Nevertheless, NASA considered the Saturn 5 401 00:22:44,259 --> 00:22:45,881 ready to receive its first crew. 402 00:22:52,578 --> 00:22:54,925 October 11th, 1968, Apollo 7 403 00:22:56,375 --> 00:23:00,171 was the first manned space flight of the Apollo program. 404 00:23:00,206 --> 00:23:03,623 Donn Eisele, Commander Walter M. Schirra 405 00:23:05,245 --> 00:23:10,250 and Walter Cunningham's crew spend almost 11 days in space 406 00:23:10,561 --> 00:23:12,977 testing a command module spacecraft 407 00:23:13,944 --> 00:23:15,428 designed to orbit the Earth 408 00:23:15,463 --> 00:23:19,398 and safely bring humans to the Moon and back again. 409 00:23:23,574 --> 00:23:27,371 The mission objective was to demonstrate crew performance 410 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,269 with the command service module. 411 00:23:33,204 --> 00:23:34,620 - [Reporter] Apollo 7 was also a go 412 00:23:34,654 --> 00:23:36,449 for an exhaustive series of tests 413 00:23:36,484 --> 00:23:38,451 of its worthiness in space. 414 00:23:38,486 --> 00:23:40,384 One of the first things which had to be learned 415 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:43,111 was whether the astronauts could control the spacecraft 416 00:23:43,145 --> 00:23:45,872 combined with the S4B Saturn stage. 417 00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:48,703 A very similar thing would have to be done 418 00:23:48,737 --> 00:23:51,153 during the early phases of a lunar mission. 419 00:23:51,188 --> 00:23:53,086 The answer was not long in coming. 420 00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:55,951 - [Astronaut] S4B test complete. 421 00:23:55,986 --> 00:23:56,780 - [Astronaut] Beautiful. 422 00:23:56,814 --> 00:23:57,677 - [Astronaut] It was outstanding 423 00:23:57,712 --> 00:24:00,128 - [Astronaut] Real, fine and ups 424 00:24:00,162 --> 00:24:01,474 - [Reporter] Next, the spacecraft 425 00:24:01,509 --> 00:24:03,994 and S4B stage were separated. 426 00:24:04,028 --> 00:24:06,065 The question now was whether the astronauts 427 00:24:06,099 --> 00:24:07,860 could turn their spacecraft around 428 00:24:07,894 --> 00:24:09,655 and control it to the degree required 429 00:24:09,689 --> 00:24:12,830 for future physical linkups with equipment in space. 430 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:15,626 For this too would have to be done in the lunar flight. 431 00:24:17,870 --> 00:24:19,837 And again, the answer was yes. 432 00:24:20,804 --> 00:24:23,013 - [Astronaut] A little flight is like Germany. 433 00:24:23,047 --> 00:24:24,463 - [Reporter] Something that will not be seen 434 00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,188 in the lunar flight or in any other 435 00:24:26,223 --> 00:24:27,673 forthcoming Apollo mission 436 00:24:27,707 --> 00:24:30,848 were the panels at the top of the S4B stage. 437 00:24:30,883 --> 00:24:32,781 They will simply be jettisoned in the future. 438 00:24:32,816 --> 00:24:34,714 But they drew comment in Apollo 7. 439 00:24:35,819 --> 00:24:37,199 - [Astronaut] And the slot panel 440 00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:40,996 at the top left and bottom opened. 441 00:24:41,031 --> 00:24:43,067 And I would about a 45 degree angle 442 00:24:43,102 --> 00:24:44,483 and the slot panel on the right, 443 00:24:44,517 --> 00:24:48,866 just opened though maybe 30 degrees at the very best. 444 00:24:49,902 --> 00:24:51,386 - [Control] All right, Roger. 445 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:54,320 looks like you're looking at a four jawed angry alligator. 446 00:24:55,424 --> 00:24:57,841 - [Narrator] During this mission, multiple tests 447 00:24:57,875 --> 00:24:59,428 for the Saturn rocket system 448 00:24:59,463 --> 00:25:02,535 and the astronaut crew interactions were successful. 449 00:25:03,432 --> 00:25:07,298 This was the first mission to use the Apollo flight suit 450 00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:08,990 and to successfully complete 451 00:25:09,024 --> 00:25:11,717 a live video transmission from space. 452 00:25:15,237 --> 00:25:16,515 - [Reporter] Always before we've had 453 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:18,171 to be content with merely listening 454 00:25:18,206 --> 00:25:20,484 to our astronauts during their flights. 455 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,900 In Apollo 7, through the medium of television, 456 00:25:22,935 --> 00:25:25,834 we could actually see them in space for the first time 457 00:25:25,869 --> 00:25:27,077 and become better acquainted 458 00:25:27,111 --> 00:25:29,286 with weightless life aboard a spacecraft. 459 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,287 - [Astronaut] You're picking up, 460 00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:32,531 I can read now just a minute. 461 00:25:32,565 --> 00:25:33,393 It says... 462 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,777 [ominous music] 463 00:25:44,197 --> 00:25:47,684 [ominous music continues] 464 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:57,245 [ominous music continues] 465 00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:06,461 [ominous music continues] 466 00:26:12,432 --> 00:26:15,919 [ominous music continues] 467 00:26:21,545 --> 00:26:25,031 [ominous music continues] 468 00:26:30,209 --> 00:26:32,142 [dramatic music] 469 00:26:32,176 --> 00:26:35,352 - [Narrator] December 21st, 1968, 470 00:26:35,386 --> 00:26:39,563 Apollo 8 was the second crude mission of the Apollo program 471 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:43,636 and the first mission to bring humans to the Moon's orbit. 472 00:26:43,671 --> 00:26:46,881 They were the first humans to leave low Earth orbit. 473 00:26:46,915 --> 00:26:49,262 The first to see the entire Earth, 474 00:26:49,297 --> 00:26:52,265 the first to see the dark side of the Moon 475 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:56,097 and the first to see the sunrise of the Earth from the Moon. 476 00:26:58,996 --> 00:27:04,001 - [Controller] T Minus 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9. 477 00:27:06,728 --> 00:27:09,006 So we have ignition sequence five, 478 00:27:09,041 --> 00:27:14,046 the engines are on 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. 479 00:27:15,219 --> 00:27:17,981 [dramatic music] 480 00:27:20,052 --> 00:27:23,193 I have commit, we have liftoff. 481 00:27:23,227 --> 00:27:27,611 Lift off at 7:51 am Eastern Standard Time. 482 00:27:29,475 --> 00:27:33,030 - [Narrator] Apollo 8 took three days to reach the Moon. 483 00:27:33,065 --> 00:27:36,620 It orbited 10 times over 20 hours. 484 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:39,209 [upbeat music] 485 00:27:54,569 --> 00:27:55,708 - [Astronaut] This transmission is coming to you 486 00:27:55,743 --> 00:27:58,642 approximately halfway between the Moon and the Earth. 487 00:27:59,608 --> 00:28:03,958 We've been 31 hours, about 20 minutes into the flight. 488 00:28:03,992 --> 00:28:08,065 We have about less than 40 hours left to go to the Moon. 489 00:28:08,928 --> 00:28:11,759 - [Narrator] So Apollo 8 glided on silently 490 00:28:11,793 --> 00:28:15,245 farther from Earth than man had ever before been. 491 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,524 A microscopic dot of life in the cosmic void. 492 00:28:21,561 --> 00:28:23,287 - [Astronaut] Face of the waters. 493 00:28:23,322 --> 00:28:25,842 And God said, let there be light. 494 00:28:25,876 --> 00:28:26,774 - [Narrator] The crew also made 495 00:28:26,808 --> 00:28:29,777 a televised Christmas Eve broadcast 496 00:28:29,811 --> 00:28:31,779 in which they read the first 10 verses 497 00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:33,228 of the book of Genesis. 498 00:28:34,229 --> 00:28:37,716 This broadcast was the most watched in history at the time. 499 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:40,615 - [Astronaut] So the evening and the morning 500 00:28:40,649 --> 00:28:43,618 was the first day and God said. 501 00:28:43,652 --> 00:28:45,689 [indistinct] 502 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,622 - [Narrator] The choice to spend Christmas Eve 503 00:28:47,656 --> 00:28:50,832 in lunar orbit was made because that was the time 504 00:28:50,867 --> 00:28:53,317 of optimal lighting conditions for surveying 505 00:28:53,352 --> 00:28:55,078 the Apollo landing site 1. 506 00:28:56,044 --> 00:28:58,150 During the mission, astronauts 507 00:28:58,184 --> 00:29:00,359 took photos of the Earth from the Moon, 508 00:29:00,393 --> 00:29:03,396 including the second Earth rise picture, 509 00:29:03,431 --> 00:29:05,605 which was higher quality than the Earth rise 510 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,815 taken previously by the Lunar Orbiter. 511 00:29:12,612 --> 00:29:14,304 - [Controller] Apollo 8, Houston, 512 00:29:14,338 --> 00:29:17,100 what does the old Moon look like from 60 miles over? 513 00:29:18,135 --> 00:29:23,175 - [Astronaut] Okay, Houston, the Moon is essentially gray. 514 00:29:23,209 --> 00:29:25,798 No color, looks like plaster of 515 00:29:27,006 --> 00:29:30,078 Or sort of a grayish beach sand, 516 00:29:30,113 --> 00:29:32,011 because he planted a bit of detail. 517 00:29:33,116 --> 00:29:35,290 The craters are all round and off. 518 00:29:35,325 --> 00:29:36,567 There's quite a few of them, 519 00:29:36,602 --> 00:29:38,328 some are newer. 520 00:29:38,362 --> 00:29:40,399 Many of 'em look like, especially the round ones, 521 00:29:40,433 --> 00:29:44,403 look like hit by meteorites or projectiles of some sort. 522 00:29:48,683 --> 00:29:50,133 - [Controller] A level we have a picture. 523 00:29:50,167 --> 00:29:52,998 We see the Earth right in the center of the screen over. 524 00:29:53,032 --> 00:29:55,379 - [Narrator] During these TV transmissions, 525 00:29:55,414 --> 00:29:58,486 the astronauts also provided a verbal commentary 526 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,627 to accompany the footage being broadcast. 527 00:30:01,661 --> 00:30:05,286 Contrary to popular belief, these broadcasts 528 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,600 were not extemporaneous or improvised performances. 529 00:30:09,635 --> 00:30:12,914 Rather, both the footage and dialogue 530 00:30:12,949 --> 00:30:15,814 were entirely scripted out prior to the flight. 531 00:30:24,374 --> 00:30:27,135 The Apollo cover story was specifically designed 532 00:30:27,170 --> 00:30:31,277 to allow those missions to be conducted in the public eye, 533 00:30:31,312 --> 00:30:35,212 while at the same time actively concealing the fact 534 00:30:35,247 --> 00:30:38,284 that evidence of intelligent extraterrestrial life 535 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,149 might have been discovered in space and on the Moon. 536 00:30:42,323 --> 00:30:46,189 The scripting protocols followed during the Apollo program 537 00:30:46,223 --> 00:30:48,570 were for the most part highly effective 538 00:30:48,605 --> 00:30:50,952 at ensuring the astronauts did not divulge 539 00:30:50,987 --> 00:30:54,231 any sensitive information while they communicated 540 00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:57,372 over the public radio channel with Houston. 541 00:30:57,407 --> 00:30:59,892 However, when the astronauts were not 542 00:30:59,927 --> 00:31:02,791 in radio contact with Mission Control, 543 00:31:02,826 --> 00:31:05,587 they did on occasion make some unscripted 544 00:31:05,622 --> 00:31:08,418 and rather candid comments to each other 545 00:31:08,452 --> 00:31:11,731 about what they were observing outside their spacecraft. 546 00:31:13,354 --> 00:31:15,701 These comments were captured by a device 547 00:31:15,735 --> 00:31:19,532 mounted inside the Apollo command and service module 548 00:31:19,567 --> 00:31:21,741 that was known as the data storage 549 00:31:21,776 --> 00:31:24,986 equipment recorder or DSE. 550 00:31:25,021 --> 00:31:28,921 The Apollo DSE was essentially a black box cockpit 551 00:31:28,956 --> 00:31:31,855 voice and telemetry recording system. 552 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:36,101 In addition to recording a variety of spacecraft parameters 553 00:31:36,135 --> 00:31:39,518 the DSE's 14 track tape also recorded 554 00:31:39,552 --> 00:31:43,004 many internal crew conversations that took place 555 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:44,316 when the astronauts were not 556 00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:46,663 communicating with Mission Control. 557 00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:50,218 Although it is presumed that the recordings 558 00:31:50,253 --> 00:31:52,220 were destroyed or lost, 559 00:31:52,255 --> 00:31:54,533 the transcriptions were made at NASA 560 00:31:55,741 --> 00:31:59,331 by the woman shown in this image and others. 561 00:31:59,365 --> 00:32:02,023 And although they were originally classified, 562 00:32:02,058 --> 00:32:05,924 those transcripts can be found today in the NASA archives. 563 00:32:07,408 --> 00:32:10,514 Many of the comments captured by the DSE 564 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:12,758 were made when the spacecraft was behind 565 00:32:12,792 --> 00:32:14,415 the far side of the Moon 566 00:32:14,449 --> 00:32:16,900 with the astronauts describing various sites 567 00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,488 not visible from Earth. 568 00:32:20,145 --> 00:32:22,664 [eerie music] 569 00:32:28,739 --> 00:32:32,019 [eerie music continues] 570 00:32:37,714 --> 00:32:41,028 [eerie music continues] 571 00:32:47,137 --> 00:32:50,485 [eerie music continues] 572 00:32:56,215 --> 00:32:59,563 [eerie music continues] 573 00:33:05,569 --> 00:33:08,917 [eerie music continues] 574 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:18,306 [eerie music continues] 575 00:33:19,307 --> 00:33:22,034 [dramatic music] 576 00:33:27,522 --> 00:33:31,112 [dramatic music continues] 577 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,190 [dramatic music continues] 578 00:33:42,227 --> 00:33:44,919 [ominous music] 579 00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:53,790 [ominous music continues] 580 00:34:00,555 --> 00:34:01,763 - What's very interesting about 581 00:34:01,798 --> 00:34:05,802 the Apollo 8 manned mission to the Moon is that 582 00:34:05,836 --> 00:34:08,667 we would hear about all of these things 583 00:34:08,701 --> 00:34:13,258 that astronauts and UFO researchers would repeat 584 00:34:13,292 --> 00:34:16,744 being demonstrated in the communications, 585 00:34:16,778 --> 00:34:18,573 photos and footage 586 00:34:18,608 --> 00:34:21,852 throughout many other Apollo manned missions. 587 00:34:21,887 --> 00:34:26,236 That is structures on the far side of the Moon, 588 00:34:26,271 --> 00:34:29,412 UFOs, an anomalous activity in space, 589 00:34:29,446 --> 00:34:33,623 as well as this eerie music or strange sounds 590 00:34:33,657 --> 00:34:36,522 that the astronauts only heard 591 00:34:36,557 --> 00:34:38,697 when they were on the far side of the Moon. 592 00:34:39,939 --> 00:34:41,113 And what's interesting is that 593 00:34:41,148 --> 00:34:43,564 we will hear a more detailed account 594 00:34:43,598 --> 00:34:47,913 and more evidence of this strange music or sounds 595 00:34:47,947 --> 00:34:49,742 on the far side of the Moon 596 00:34:49,777 --> 00:34:52,331 in the later Apollo 10 manned mission. 597 00:34:53,436 --> 00:34:58,096 And one has to wonder, is this sound 598 00:34:58,130 --> 00:35:01,754 emanating from a base or maybe these structures 599 00:35:01,789 --> 00:35:05,620 that were observed on the far side of the lunar surface 600 00:35:05,655 --> 00:35:08,968 or was the sound actually coming from space? 601 00:35:09,003 --> 00:35:13,145 And does the Moon operate as some kind of insulator 602 00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:17,391 to feedback coming from space? 603 00:35:17,425 --> 00:35:20,773 - [Narrator] March 3rd, 1969, Apollo 9 604 00:35:20,808 --> 00:35:24,294 was the third man's space mission in the Apollo program 605 00:35:24,329 --> 00:35:27,366 and the first flight with the Apollo lunar module. 606 00:35:27,401 --> 00:35:30,507 The crew spent 10 days in low Earth orbit 607 00:35:30,542 --> 00:35:33,510 testing several critical aspects of landing on the Moon, 608 00:35:33,545 --> 00:35:35,547 including lunar module engines, 609 00:35:35,581 --> 00:35:39,309 spacesuit life support systems, navigation systems, 610 00:35:39,344 --> 00:35:40,862 and docking maneuvers. 611 00:35:40,897 --> 00:35:43,831 - We were that first crew that was gonna get a chance 612 00:35:43,865 --> 00:35:47,352 to fly this vehicle and test this vehicle 613 00:35:47,386 --> 00:35:50,941 that was going to take human beings to the Moon. 614 00:35:50,976 --> 00:35:55,567 We were very, very aware of the time pressure 615 00:35:55,601 --> 00:35:57,810 and everything has to go right 616 00:35:57,845 --> 00:36:00,606 if we're for sure gonna meet Kennedy's goal 617 00:36:00,641 --> 00:36:04,886 of getting to the Moon in that decade and back. 618 00:36:04,921 --> 00:36:08,200 We tested every possible thing that could be tested. 619 00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:12,480 The mission was completely dedicated to testing the systems 620 00:36:12,515 --> 00:36:15,207 the engines and the guidance and navigation, 621 00:36:15,242 --> 00:36:18,245 all kinds of things that we could do in Earth orbit. 622 00:36:18,279 --> 00:36:21,248 - Really very difficult to get 623 00:36:21,282 --> 00:36:23,560 the coordinate system in your head. 624 00:36:23,595 --> 00:36:27,461 Normally, we docked looking out this way 625 00:36:27,495 --> 00:36:30,118 and for the dock we went to Lunar module 626 00:36:30,153 --> 00:36:32,707 we had to look out this way. 627 00:36:32,742 --> 00:36:37,781 So, the control system didn't operate 628 00:36:37,816 --> 00:36:39,127 the way it normally would. 629 00:36:40,957 --> 00:36:43,546 - [Astronaut] How does that support car handle, Jim? 630 00:36:43,580 --> 00:36:44,581 - [Jim Lovell] Pretty nice. 631 00:36:44,616 --> 00:36:46,618 - [Narrator] This was the first manned flight 632 00:36:46,652 --> 00:36:47,895 of a lunar module, 633 00:36:47,929 --> 00:36:50,829 the first docking and extraction with the lunar module, 634 00:36:50,863 --> 00:36:53,659 the first completion of a two-man spacewalk 635 00:36:53,694 --> 00:36:57,076 and the second docking of a two-man spacecraft. 636 00:36:57,111 --> 00:36:58,285 - [Commander McDivitt] We depressurized 637 00:36:58,319 --> 00:37:01,909 both the lunar module and the command module 638 00:37:01,943 --> 00:37:03,945 and Rusty was going to get out 639 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:07,846 and transfer over to the command module. 640 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,126 And we were doing that to see that it could be done. 641 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,818 [ominous music] 642 00:37:20,962 --> 00:37:24,449 [ominous music continues] 643 00:37:31,076 --> 00:37:34,735 - [Narrator] Two telecasts were made to Earth from Apollo 9. 644 00:37:34,769 --> 00:37:38,601 The first, on March 5th, lasted for almost seven minutes. 645 00:37:38,635 --> 00:37:40,913 The second telecast on the following day 646 00:37:40,948 --> 00:37:42,915 lasted for about 13 minutes 647 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:46,298 and only showed interior views of the lunar module. 648 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,612 Photographs taken as part of the multi-spectral terrain 649 00:37:49,646 --> 00:37:52,270 photographic experiment were successful. 650 00:37:54,617 --> 00:37:56,274 - [Commander McDivitt] Now, Dave wanted to get it, 651 00:37:56,308 --> 00:37:57,171 get out of the spacecraft too. 652 00:37:58,448 --> 00:38:01,693 So we, part of the mission was for him to open up the hatch. 653 00:38:01,727 --> 00:38:04,730 So, we were all out there in the vacuum. 654 00:38:04,765 --> 00:38:07,388 - [Narrator] Here we are at this historic moment 655 00:38:07,423 --> 00:38:10,080 that we are all part of, not just the astronauts, 656 00:38:10,115 --> 00:38:12,255 but everybody who's alive today 657 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:14,292 and we're all on this small planet 658 00:38:14,326 --> 00:38:15,914 as representative of life, 659 00:38:15,948 --> 00:38:18,710 we're beginning to move out from this planet, 660 00:38:18,744 --> 00:38:21,954 which as far as we know, contains all of the life 661 00:38:21,989 --> 00:38:24,232 in our little corner of the universe. 662 00:38:29,168 --> 00:38:31,136 - [Astronaut] Annual attitude control is good. 663 00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:32,482 - [Controller] Roger, copy. 664 00:38:34,450 --> 00:38:37,522 - [Astronaut] I'm gonna pull your flag, 665 00:38:39,282 --> 00:38:40,352 oops, I bent that one. 666 00:38:41,249 --> 00:38:43,113 - [Astronaut] BTU expenditure for each crew 667 00:38:43,148 --> 00:38:45,633 and averaging 1,300 surgeon reports. 668 00:38:48,567 --> 00:38:49,672 - [Controller] Jack, this is Houston. 669 00:38:49,706 --> 00:38:50,673 - [indistinct] 670 00:38:50,707 --> 00:38:52,122 Looks like your water temperature 671 00:38:52,157 --> 00:38:53,089 is getting pretty high. 672 00:38:53,123 --> 00:38:54,366 You might wanna go to intermediate cooling 673 00:38:54,401 --> 00:38:55,333 or slow down or something. 674 00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:56,644 Looks like your getting a little warm. 675 00:39:01,822 --> 00:39:04,549 [dramatic music] 676 00:39:09,070 --> 00:39:11,452 - [Narrator] May 18th, 1969, 677 00:39:11,487 --> 00:39:15,283 the Apollo 10 mission was the fourth manned mission 678 00:39:15,318 --> 00:39:16,630 of the Apollo program. 679 00:39:21,566 --> 00:39:23,499 - [Astronaut] Roger, Houston, Apollo 10. 680 00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:26,640 You can tell the world that we have arrived. 681 00:39:26,674 --> 00:39:29,781 - [Narrator] This mission was a successful synthesis 682 00:39:29,815 --> 00:39:32,404 of the previous two completed missions. 683 00:39:32,439 --> 00:39:34,164 It resulted in the lunar module 684 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,202 being placed for the first time in lunar orbit. 685 00:39:39,963 --> 00:39:43,035 - And they give us a silver Snoopy for excellence warriors. 686 00:39:43,070 --> 00:39:46,660 I wanted to honor the people that had worked so hard. 687 00:39:46,694 --> 00:39:48,731 So we called it Snoopy, 688 00:39:48,765 --> 00:39:51,181 but you needed two names so naturally 689 00:39:51,216 --> 00:39:53,045 the other one was Charlie Brown. 690 00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:55,979 - [Narrator] Stafford and Cernan were placed 691 00:39:56,014 --> 00:39:58,223 in the lunar module, Snoopy, 692 00:39:58,257 --> 00:40:00,467 after leaving the command service module. 693 00:40:00,501 --> 00:40:02,054 They managed to place themselves 694 00:40:02,089 --> 00:40:04,263 in an elliptical lunar orbit 695 00:40:04,298 --> 00:40:07,853 about 14 kilometers above the lunar surface. 696 00:40:07,888 --> 00:40:09,855 - You're amazed at what you see. 697 00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:11,478 The one thing that always amazed me 698 00:40:11,512 --> 00:40:12,996 were the size of the boulders. 699 00:40:13,031 --> 00:40:17,104 There were these gigantic craters down on the bottom 700 00:40:17,138 --> 00:40:19,451 would be boulder and up on the rim would be boulders. 701 00:40:19,969 --> 00:40:22,937 - [Narrator] During the second and final return to the Moon, 702 00:40:22,972 --> 00:40:25,768 the lunar module lost control, 703 00:40:25,802 --> 00:40:27,942 which was regained shortly thereafter 704 00:40:27,977 --> 00:40:29,910 by its pilot, Thomas Stafford. 705 00:40:29,944 --> 00:40:30,980 - [Thomas Stafford] Yeah, okay. 706 00:40:31,014 --> 00:40:33,707 Something went wild there and we're all set. 707 00:40:33,741 --> 00:40:34,570 We didn't lock it. 708 00:40:34,604 --> 00:40:36,088 We're going ahead to the audible. 709 00:40:36,123 --> 00:40:38,781 - [Controller] Charlie Brown not Houston a guy saving it. 710 00:40:38,815 --> 00:40:41,473 They had a wild gyration though, 711 00:40:41,508 --> 00:40:43,061 but they got it under control. 712 00:40:43,095 --> 00:40:45,270 - One thing people always ask, 713 00:40:45,304 --> 00:40:47,652 were you frightened, were you scared? 714 00:40:47,686 --> 00:40:49,343 The answer is no. 715 00:40:49,377 --> 00:40:52,967 We were fighter pilots, test pilots. 716 00:40:53,002 --> 00:40:54,244 So we knew what risk were. 717 00:40:54,279 --> 00:40:56,937 You did everything you could to mitigate the risk, 718 00:40:56,971 --> 00:40:58,801 but there was a risk. 719 00:40:58,835 --> 00:41:00,941 So, we understood that. 720 00:41:00,975 --> 00:41:03,046 - [Narrator] After completing this maneuver, 721 00:41:03,081 --> 00:41:05,463 the lunar module was abandoned and launched 722 00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:07,913 into orbit around the Sun. 723 00:41:07,948 --> 00:41:11,848 As a final result, the mission was a success. 724 00:41:11,883 --> 00:41:14,506 Separation and docking tests in the lunar orbit 725 00:41:14,541 --> 00:41:15,887 between the command module 726 00:41:15,921 --> 00:41:18,959 and the lunar module were all successful. 727 00:41:18,993 --> 00:41:21,064 The lunar module descended to an altitude 728 00:41:21,099 --> 00:41:25,897 of approximately 15 kilometers above the lunar surface. 729 00:41:25,931 --> 00:41:29,832 - Well, we had a series of debriefings to them about, 730 00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:32,593 because we had all the procedures worked out. 731 00:41:32,628 --> 00:41:35,044 Actually, I went to Neil says, buddy, here you are. 732 00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:36,873 Here's all the techniques, 733 00:41:36,908 --> 00:41:40,843 all the procedures down to the last 50,000 feet. 734 00:41:40,877 --> 00:41:43,915 And you take it there hard decent on the surface, 735 00:41:43,949 --> 00:41:46,952 50,000 feet up, it's all done. 736 00:41:46,987 --> 00:41:49,852 So they just followed all the procedures we had. 737 00:41:49,886 --> 00:41:52,544 [ominous music] 738 00:41:55,305 --> 00:41:57,273 We were using has some live cameras 739 00:41:57,307 --> 00:41:59,586 to get the highest resolution. 740 00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:02,554 Well, then and radar was going. 741 00:42:02,589 --> 00:42:06,316 So radar map, photo maps and visually maps. 742 00:42:06,351 --> 00:42:08,077 - But I'll tell you one thing, when we went over, 743 00:42:08,111 --> 00:42:10,251 we made two passes over the landing site 744 00:42:10,286 --> 00:42:12,702 and I tell you what, 745 00:42:13,945 --> 00:42:16,775 I think I said things that boy we are down among, 746 00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:18,881 I felt like I had to pick up my feet 747 00:42:18,915 --> 00:42:20,676 to keep from dragging on top of the mountains. 748 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:23,955 I mean we were close and we're going over those hills 749 00:42:23,989 --> 00:42:25,612 at 3,000 miles an hour. 750 00:42:25,646 --> 00:42:28,166 So, you can just imagine what that was like. 751 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,066 And it was one of those quick touch and goes. 752 00:42:32,101 --> 00:42:35,553 We didn't have a chance to put our tail hook down to stay. 753 00:42:37,002 --> 00:42:42,007 And that would've been the big part of the challenge. 754 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,320 Nonetheless, we were only the second flight 755 00:42:44,354 --> 00:42:45,183 to go to the Moon, 756 00:42:45,217 --> 00:42:47,219 the first to take the lunar module. 757 00:42:47,254 --> 00:42:49,567 And it was the right decision to be made 758 00:42:49,601 --> 00:42:50,775 to get everything done. 759 00:42:50,809 --> 00:42:55,469 And we found some problems that had we attempted to land 760 00:42:55,503 --> 00:42:56,746 might have kept us from landing 761 00:42:56,781 --> 00:42:59,715 and then paved a way for Apollo 762 00:42:59,749 --> 00:43:01,613 to go hand and successfully land 763 00:43:01,648 --> 00:43:04,236 So, it was the right decision at the right time. 764 00:43:04,271 --> 00:43:05,755 - I have, I've looked at a lot of transcripts. 765 00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:08,482 The Apollo lunar surface journal was great for that. 766 00:43:08,516 --> 00:43:10,518 On Apollo 10, which is where we have 767 00:43:10,553 --> 00:43:13,280 the images of Sinus Medii, it's really fascinating, 768 00:43:13,314 --> 00:43:15,972 because Gene Cernan was on that mission 769 00:43:16,007 --> 00:43:17,525 as well as Apollo 17. 770 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,598 And they're at 50,000 feet 771 00:43:20,632 --> 00:43:24,222 and he says, wow, we are really down among them now. 772 00:43:24,256 --> 00:43:27,190 I'm like there's nothing at 50,000 feet. 773 00:43:27,225 --> 00:43:28,675 If the Moon is what they tell us is, 774 00:43:28,709 --> 00:43:31,712 unless it's this artificial glass structure. 775 00:43:31,747 --> 00:43:33,265 at 50,000 feet. 776 00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:34,577 - [Interviewer] If they're scared of hitting it. 777 00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:39,202 - Yeah, meaning he's in amongst towering stuff. 778 00:43:39,237 --> 00:43:40,272 Well, it isn't the mountains, 779 00:43:40,307 --> 00:43:41,964 'cause the mountains aren't that high for sure. 780 00:43:41,998 --> 00:43:44,311 - [Narrator] In addition to recording telemetry related 781 00:43:44,345 --> 00:43:47,417 to the performance of the lunar module spacecraft itself 782 00:43:47,452 --> 00:43:50,213 the DSEA also made audio recordings 783 00:43:50,248 --> 00:43:52,975 of any crew conversation throughout the mission. 784 00:43:53,009 --> 00:43:54,632 - [Astronaut] Apollo can Houston, two minutes, 785 00:43:54,666 --> 00:43:59,637 the LOS, everybody here says God speed. 786 00:44:00,672 --> 00:44:01,846 - [Controller] Okay. and we'll see you right 787 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,261 on the other side in orbit. 788 00:44:05,953 --> 00:44:07,058 - [Astronaut] Okay, this has got be 789 00:44:07,092 --> 00:44:09,716 the greatest site ever here. 790 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:12,650 - [Astronaut] Try to stand up here. 791 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:16,308 [ominous music] 792 00:44:21,797 --> 00:44:25,317 [ominous music continues] 793 00:44:30,978 --> 00:44:34,499 [ominous music continues] 794 00:44:40,229 --> 00:44:43,715 [ominous music continues] 795 00:44:49,238 --> 00:44:52,690 [ominous music continues] 796 00:44:58,523 --> 00:45:02,009 [ominous music continues] 797 00:45:07,946 --> 00:45:11,467 [ominous music continues] 798 00:45:17,784 --> 00:45:21,270 [ominous music continues] 799 00:45:27,276 --> 00:45:30,762 [ominous music continues] 800 00:45:39,737 --> 00:45:43,050 - [Reporter] Noises reportedly were heard in May, 1969 801 00:45:43,085 --> 00:45:46,605 by the Apollo 10 astronauts as they circled the Moon. 802 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,884 The sounds which lasted about an hour 803 00:45:48,918 --> 00:45:52,680 were recorded and transmitted to Mission Control in Houston. 804 00:45:53,509 --> 00:45:56,029 - The music even sounds outer space doesn't it? 805 00:45:56,063 --> 00:45:56,857 You hear that? 806 00:45:56,892 --> 00:45:57,755 That whistling sound? 807 00:45:58,652 --> 00:45:59,584 Whoooooooo. 808 00:46:09,628 --> 00:46:10,629 - [Controller] We are getting data. 809 00:46:10,664 --> 00:46:12,770 We don't have any voice communication yet. 810 00:46:13,909 --> 00:46:15,703 - [Astronaut] Roger Houston, Apollo 10. 811 00:46:15,738 --> 00:46:18,983 You can tell the world that we have arrived. 812 00:46:19,017 --> 00:46:20,363 - [Controller] Roger 10, it's good to hear from you. 813 00:46:20,398 --> 00:46:22,780 - [Gene Cernan] You wouldn't believe this thing. 814 00:46:25,506 --> 00:46:27,094 - [Astronaut] Roger 10, we're still 815 00:46:27,129 --> 00:46:29,303 having problems popping up. 816 00:46:29,338 --> 00:46:31,858 Oh, we'd like you to go to white beam for 30 seconds 817 00:46:31,892 --> 00:46:33,480 and then back to narrow over. 818 00:46:33,514 --> 00:46:35,171 - [Gene Cernan] No, I can see it with the naked eye 819 00:46:35,206 --> 00:46:37,104 and I put the binocular on it 820 00:46:37,139 --> 00:46:38,968 and I can it spinning around 821 00:46:39,003 --> 00:46:42,040 and I wouldn't bet my life on it being the S4B 822 00:46:42,075 --> 00:46:45,492 but it's sure gotta be something like it. 823 00:46:47,770 --> 00:46:50,566 - [Reporter] That was Gene Cernan reporting that sighting. 824 00:46:56,675 --> 00:46:58,781 - [Gene Cernan] You know, it's a beautiful sight. 825 00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:00,921 We're sitting here, it's almost like science fiction. 826 00:47:00,956 --> 00:47:02,612 Looking back at it, Bruce. 827 00:47:07,583 --> 00:47:10,897 This is the peacock of Apollo 10, Roger. 828 00:47:12,726 --> 00:47:15,763 And we'd like to say hello from the five of us if we may. 829 00:47:16,764 --> 00:47:17,593 Roger. 830 00:47:18,766 --> 00:47:21,424 [ominous music] 831 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,197 Charlie this is it. 832 00:47:36,163 --> 00:47:37,509 It's so hard to describe. 833 00:47:37,544 --> 00:47:39,201 You can go right up. 834 00:47:41,444 --> 00:47:42,135 Uh, 835 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,757 It is incredible. 836 00:47:50,005 --> 00:47:51,316 - [Controller] Okay, this has got to be 837 00:47:51,351 --> 00:47:52,559 the greatest sight ever. 838 00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:55,079 - [Astronaut] You gotta see it up here. 839 00:48:06,366 --> 00:48:10,749 The land masses don't seem to stand out quite as clearly 840 00:48:10,784 --> 00:48:12,682 today as they did yesterday. 841 00:48:12,717 --> 00:48:15,375 [ominous music] 842 00:48:20,311 --> 00:48:21,968 - [Controller] How's the view 10? 843 00:48:24,384 --> 00:48:26,317 - [Astronaut] We have our student geologist here 844 00:48:26,351 --> 00:48:29,389 overlook at the surface that they reported admitted. 845 00:48:30,252 --> 00:48:32,081 - [Controller] Roger, standing by over. 846 00:48:32,116 --> 00:48:33,703 - [Astronaut] Okay, we're just passing from the highlands 847 00:48:33,738 --> 00:48:38,708 over into the Mari area and you can pass on to Jack. 848 00:48:38,743 --> 00:48:41,159 We caught a couple of real pretty little volcanoes, 849 00:48:41,194 --> 00:48:42,264 there's no doubt about 'em. 850 00:48:42,298 --> 00:48:45,784 And we got a couple of good high resolution photos 851 00:48:45,819 --> 00:48:49,961 and it still looks kind of brownish crater to us here over. 852 00:48:51,549 --> 00:48:53,275 - [Controller] Roger, we copy, we hear that. 853 00:48:53,309 --> 00:48:56,519 - [Astronaut] There was place back there where there's that. 854 00:48:56,554 --> 00:48:59,315 There was one volcano or whatever it was 855 00:49:00,454 --> 00:49:02,077 that it was all white on the outside, 856 00:49:02,111 --> 00:49:04,286 but definitely black around the top of it. 857 00:49:06,771 --> 00:49:07,841 - [Controller] Roger. 858 00:49:11,810 --> 00:49:13,157 Charlie, it might sound corny, 859 00:49:13,191 --> 00:49:15,228 but the view is really out of this world. 860 00:49:19,128 --> 00:49:20,612 We had a couple of comments. 861 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:23,167 The back row that I won't repeat. 862 00:49:27,067 --> 00:49:30,001 Apollo 10, Houston, two minutes to LOS. 863 00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:32,555 Everybody here says God speed. 864 00:49:35,489 --> 00:49:36,870 - [Astronaut] Okay, And we'll see you 865 00:49:36,904 --> 00:49:38,596 on the other side in orbit. 866 00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:41,702 - [Controller] Oh Roger, 76 22 55. 867 00:49:57,511 --> 00:49:59,720 - Many skeptics and debunkers 868 00:49:59,755 --> 00:50:02,585 will remark on the fact that 869 00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:06,796 mainstream media was not reporting on UFOs, anomalies 870 00:50:06,831 --> 00:50:10,455 and structures being witnessed by astronauts 871 00:50:10,490 --> 00:50:12,388 during the Apollo manned missions. 872 00:50:12,423 --> 00:50:15,426 And the simple reason why mainstream media 873 00:50:15,460 --> 00:50:19,430 wasn't exposed to this back in the 1960s and seventies 874 00:50:19,464 --> 00:50:22,226 during the Apollo missions is because 875 00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:25,746 that information was deeply classified. 876 00:50:25,781 --> 00:50:30,441 In fact, the DSEA tapes weren't actually declassified 877 00:50:30,475 --> 00:50:33,892 till 12 years after these Apollo manned missions. 878 00:50:34,962 --> 00:50:39,933 And additionally, we didn't have photography and film 879 00:50:40,934 --> 00:50:45,007 fully examined by many of the UFO researchers 880 00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:48,321 and independent researchers like Luna Cognita 881 00:50:48,355 --> 00:50:50,840 until many years after. 882 00:50:50,875 --> 00:50:52,049 - How can they keep the secret? 883 00:50:52,083 --> 00:50:55,431 Some of these SETI people like really just make me laugh. 884 00:50:55,466 --> 00:50:58,055 I've heard some pretty stupid comments 885 00:50:58,089 --> 00:50:59,711 coming out of these mouths. 886 00:50:59,746 --> 00:51:02,611 Like this assumption that, oh yeah, the press, 887 00:51:02,645 --> 00:51:05,545 the media wants this scoop. 888 00:51:05,579 --> 00:51:08,548 Well, the media doesn't want that scoop, 889 00:51:08,582 --> 00:51:10,343 because they're not authorized to give it 890 00:51:10,377 --> 00:51:11,792 and they won't give it, 891 00:51:11,827 --> 00:51:13,311 'cause the intelligence community will tell them 892 00:51:13,346 --> 00:51:14,416 what they can give. 893 00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:18,903 And NASA doesn't want this scoop. 894 00:51:20,007 --> 00:51:22,458 And I don't care what these SETI people 895 00:51:22,493 --> 00:51:25,979 like to tell the public they don't want that scoop. 896 00:51:26,013 --> 00:51:27,877 - So another case like this, which is really interesting, 897 00:51:27,912 --> 00:51:31,122 is the case of NASA frame AS10-32-4822. 898 00:51:33,814 --> 00:51:36,541 This is a photograph or a series of photographs 899 00:51:36,576 --> 00:51:39,613 that was taken over the lunar surface 900 00:51:39,648 --> 00:51:42,133 right in the middle Sinus Medii the sea in the middle. 901 00:51:42,168 --> 00:51:45,930 The sea in the middle where the Apollo 10 spacecraft 902 00:51:45,964 --> 00:51:49,175 was flying by and took photographs of this area. 903 00:51:49,209 --> 00:51:51,280 This is dead center on the lunar disk. 904 00:51:51,315 --> 00:51:53,179 If you were to look at the lunar disk, 905 00:51:53,213 --> 00:51:55,319 you'd see a triangular shaped crater called you Kurt. 906 00:51:55,353 --> 00:51:58,115 And then right next to it is the Sinus Medii area. 907 00:51:58,149 --> 00:52:03,223 It's also an area where surveyor four disappeared in mid-air 908 00:52:03,258 --> 00:52:04,914 while descending to a landing there 909 00:52:04,949 --> 00:52:08,401 just like a bug went splat on a windshield. 910 00:52:08,435 --> 00:52:09,609 So this is the photograph. 911 00:52:09,643 --> 00:52:13,751 This is an original analog image that's been scanned in 912 00:52:13,785 --> 00:52:18,790 by researchers back in the 1990s. 913 00:52:18,997 --> 00:52:20,275 And it looks pretty straightforward. 914 00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:23,692 This is actually AS10-32-4810. 915 00:52:23,726 --> 00:52:25,590 So it's a couple images earlier. 916 00:52:25,625 --> 00:52:27,178 It's 12 images earlier than that 917 00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:28,869 over the Sinus Medii region. 918 00:52:28,904 --> 00:52:30,733 And you notice in the background that 919 00:52:30,768 --> 00:52:33,495 there's all this weird sort of stuff. 920 00:52:33,529 --> 00:52:36,222 You see all this light sources, 921 00:52:36,256 --> 00:52:38,051 now that can't be stars, 922 00:52:38,085 --> 00:52:41,227 because the frame exposure is one 250th of a second. 923 00:52:41,261 --> 00:52:42,849 If you go much longer than that, 924 00:52:42,883 --> 00:52:45,714 the whole foreground is gonna be washed out with light. 925 00:52:45,748 --> 00:52:47,233 So it has to be really, really rapid. 926 00:52:47,267 --> 00:52:49,787 So it can't possibly be far distance stars 927 00:52:49,821 --> 00:52:51,996 and galaxies and planets. 928 00:52:52,030 --> 00:52:54,999 But if you enhance this image, 929 00:52:55,033 --> 00:52:57,967 if you brighten up the background, it gets even weirder 930 00:52:58,002 --> 00:52:59,728 because this is what the background is. 931 00:52:59,762 --> 00:53:02,696 So what you see is that these light points 932 00:53:02,731 --> 00:53:07,011 are actually just points of... structure 933 00:53:07,045 --> 00:53:09,945 that is in this massive miles high... 934 00:53:11,878 --> 00:53:15,192 geometric structure above the lunar surface over the sea 935 00:53:15,226 --> 00:53:16,434 in the middle of Sinus Medii. 936 00:53:16,469 --> 00:53:21,474 Now, if you notice, there are these crisscrossing lines 937 00:53:21,715 --> 00:53:22,716 and people are like, oh, 938 00:53:22,751 --> 00:53:24,442 those are just scratches on the negative. 939 00:53:24,477 --> 00:53:25,754 Well, but that doesn't make any sense, 940 00:53:25,788 --> 00:53:28,481 because when do scratches on the negative 941 00:53:28,515 --> 00:53:32,416 follow the curvature of the lunar surface? 942 00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:36,799 And when do they intersect at 90 degree angles, 943 00:53:36,834 --> 00:53:37,800 like these do. 944 00:53:38,629 --> 00:53:40,838 And again, as an engineer, I look at this, 945 00:53:40,872 --> 00:53:41,977 I look at the spacing. 946 00:53:42,011 --> 00:53:44,704 I say this is exactly how I would construct 947 00:53:44,738 --> 00:53:48,259 a grid-like structure over the surface of the Moon. 948 00:53:48,294 --> 00:53:53,264 If you zoom in on it, there's this sort of box-like shape. 949 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,268 And here's spars coming this way and spars coming that way. 950 00:53:57,303 --> 00:53:58,718 And here's one crossing. 951 00:53:58,752 --> 00:54:01,410 And these are all not scratches. 952 00:54:01,445 --> 00:54:03,309 These all have structure to them. 953 00:54:03,343 --> 00:54:06,829 They all have, if you look at them really, really closely, 954 00:54:06,864 --> 00:54:10,695 they all have segments, they all have aspects to them 955 00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:12,732 that make them appear to be engineering. 956 00:54:13,836 --> 00:54:15,976 And when you enhance it, put a color into it, 957 00:54:16,011 --> 00:54:17,357 it looks even weirder. 958 00:54:19,808 --> 00:54:23,156 Here's another version with a slightly darker background. 959 00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:25,469 So then you get a couple of pictures later 960 00:54:25,503 --> 00:54:29,266 and you go to AS10-32-4816. 961 00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:33,718 So four photographs later, over the surface of Sinus Medii. 962 00:54:33,753 --> 00:54:34,995 Here you have the same phenomenon. 963 00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:36,859 You have these little points of light, 964 00:54:36,894 --> 00:54:39,862 which should not be there at all. 965 00:54:39,897 --> 00:54:43,659 And then when you enhance that background, you see this. 966 00:54:45,005 --> 00:54:49,631 This looks like, I don't know, skyscrapers on the Moon, 967 00:54:49,665 --> 00:54:50,735 The Twin Towers. 968 00:54:50,770 --> 00:54:52,392 I mean when you look and zoom up on this 969 00:54:52,427 --> 00:54:53,945 and also notice this isn't 970 00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:56,327 some sort of like digital artifact, 971 00:54:56,362 --> 00:54:57,949 because if it was, it would be over the whole thing. 972 00:54:57,984 --> 00:55:01,884 Yet, there's this big hole through which you can see 973 00:55:01,919 --> 00:55:05,302 stuff in the background, more big towering stuff. 974 00:55:05,336 --> 00:55:07,580 And when you zoom up on the edges of that, 975 00:55:07,614 --> 00:55:09,823 you can see just how weird they are. 976 00:55:09,858 --> 00:55:12,930 They look like big glass skyscrapers. 977 00:55:12,964 --> 00:55:15,001 So having found this stuff, 978 00:55:15,035 --> 00:55:17,969 Hoagland was really interested in finding more. 979 00:55:18,004 --> 00:55:19,764 So he went and he got himself 980 00:55:19,799 --> 00:55:22,940 an old North American photographic catalog 981 00:55:22,974 --> 00:55:24,424 from the time period. 982 00:55:24,459 --> 00:55:28,670 And as he looked at these images, he went and he said, 983 00:55:28,704 --> 00:55:30,430 oh, well, look at some of these other ones. 984 00:55:30,465 --> 00:55:34,814 These other catalog images don't look like much at all. 985 00:55:34,848 --> 00:55:38,852 They look really over underexposed, including this one 986 00:55:38,887 --> 00:55:40,440 which is completely blacked out. 987 00:55:40,475 --> 00:55:43,616 It's like they left the lens cap on the camera or something. 988 00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:45,238 So what did he do? 989 00:55:45,272 --> 00:55:47,136 He ordered the blacked out photograph. 990 00:55:47,171 --> 00:55:50,588 And when he got AS10-32-4822, 991 00:55:50,623 --> 00:55:53,039 again, taken just what, six frames later, 992 00:55:54,937 --> 00:55:59,425 he got this area of Sinus Medii, 993 00:55:59,459 --> 00:56:02,876 which is about the size of the Los Angeles Basin, 994 00:56:02,911 --> 00:56:05,051 and has been analyzed by geologists who said, 995 00:56:05,085 --> 00:56:07,847 this is a completely non-natural pattern. 996 00:56:07,881 --> 00:56:11,195 Again, 90 degrees, crisscrossing streets, 997 00:56:11,229 --> 00:56:15,958 that kind of thing, as if you were looking at Los Angeles. 998 00:56:15,993 --> 00:56:19,548 And as you zoom up on it, it gets even weirder. 999 00:56:19,583 --> 00:56:23,276 And then there are objects that appeared 1000 00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:24,795 that then seemed to disappear. 1001 00:56:25,658 --> 00:56:28,074 What they did is they ordered 4822 1002 00:56:28,108 --> 00:56:29,489 once they thought they had something. 1003 00:56:29,524 --> 00:56:33,286 They ordered 4822 from nine different NASA archives 1004 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,321 that existed at the time where 1005 00:56:34,356 --> 00:56:36,565 you could get photographic prints, 1006 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,604 Hawaii, Maryland, Washington DC. 1007 00:56:40,638 --> 00:56:45,091 And what they found is that all nine of the versions 1008 00:56:45,125 --> 00:56:49,647 of AS10-32-4822 were different. 1009 00:56:51,131 --> 00:56:54,134 So what they realized was that what they were looking at 1010 00:56:54,169 --> 00:56:56,689 was probably a power winder sequence. 1011 00:56:56,723 --> 00:56:59,312 The spacecraft is moving left to right, 1012 00:56:59,346 --> 00:57:00,796 the astronauts looking out the window, 1013 00:57:00,831 --> 00:57:03,074 he's got a power winder on his Hasselblad. 1014 00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:04,938 He pushes down his finger and takes 1015 00:57:04,973 --> 00:57:09,046 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. 1016 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,979 And so, objects would appear 1017 00:57:11,013 --> 00:57:14,189 in some versions of 4822 and disappear in others. 1018 00:57:14,223 --> 00:57:16,398 Here's an example of one of those. 1019 00:57:17,503 --> 00:57:20,471 It looks like a giant paper clip near Los Angeles. 1020 00:57:20,506 --> 00:57:23,336 If you go back to Los Angeles, if you go back. 1021 00:57:24,648 --> 00:57:26,857 That object should be right here, it's not there. 1022 00:57:26,891 --> 00:57:28,755 But then the next frame, it is there, 1023 00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:31,137 because the light changes. 1024 00:57:31,171 --> 00:57:32,379 So this is a huge antenna. 1025 00:57:32,414 --> 00:57:35,382 This tower is a couple hundred feet tall 1026 00:57:35,417 --> 00:57:39,939 and whatever this thing is, it's an antenna or something. 1027 00:57:39,973 --> 00:57:41,803 It does not belong on the Moon. 1028 00:57:41,837 --> 00:57:44,288 If the Moon is what NASA tells us it is. 1029 00:57:44,322 --> 00:57:49,327 And there are other frames through the area of 4822 1030 00:57:49,673 --> 00:57:52,089 that show weird light reflection 1031 00:57:52,123 --> 00:57:54,505 like there's lights on down there. 1032 00:57:54,540 --> 00:57:55,782 And then there's this object, 1033 00:57:55,817 --> 00:57:58,889 which is my favorite one on the various versions of 4822. 1034 00:57:58,923 --> 00:57:59,717 It's pretty famous. 1035 00:57:59,752 --> 00:58:01,788 It's called The Castle. 1036 00:58:01,823 --> 00:58:05,378 And it appears to be hanging amidst all this stuff. 1037 00:58:05,412 --> 00:58:09,762 Just hanging there in space miles above the lunar surface. 1038 00:58:09,796 --> 00:58:13,904 It has segments that clearly look to me to be structural. 1039 00:58:13,938 --> 00:58:16,251 There's even a indication of a, 1040 00:58:16,285 --> 00:58:18,978 like a sagging line. - [Interviewer] Scaffolding? 1041 00:58:19,012 --> 00:58:21,532 - Yeah, scaffolding or a sagging like line 1042 00:58:21,567 --> 00:58:22,568 that it's hanging from. 1043 00:58:22,602 --> 00:58:24,293 You can see that this, the weight of this thing 1044 00:58:24,328 --> 00:58:28,539 is pulling on this wire that it's hanging from. 1045 00:58:28,574 --> 00:58:29,885 And it does appear in a couple 1046 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,922 different versions of the frame. 1047 00:58:31,956 --> 00:58:34,165 Here's the one with the wire and then this one 1048 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,514 is obviously the next one over and another step over 1049 00:58:37,548 --> 00:58:39,895 where the thing has not reflected the light, 1050 00:58:39,930 --> 00:58:41,310 because now the spacecraft has moved. 1051 00:58:41,345 --> 00:58:44,521 So, it's changed direction just a little bit. 1052 00:58:44,555 --> 00:58:47,006 The wire disappears that it's hanging from 1053 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,214 and it's narrower. 1054 00:58:48,248 --> 00:58:51,389 See how it's narrower than it is here, 1055 00:58:51,424 --> 00:58:52,632 - [Interviewer] It's under exposed. 1056 00:58:52,667 --> 00:58:53,840 - Right, and basically, 1057 00:58:53,875 --> 00:58:55,877 because the light geometry is fading, 1058 00:58:55,911 --> 00:58:58,120 the light is not now bouncing directly into the camera 1059 00:58:58,155 --> 00:59:00,675 like it was a split second before that, 1060 00:59:00,709 --> 00:59:01,848 because the spacecraft is moving 1061 00:59:01,883 --> 00:59:03,850 at thousands of miles an hour. 1062 00:59:03,885 --> 00:59:05,369 And again, you go up to the edge of it 1063 00:59:05,403 --> 00:59:06,577 and you can see that there's sort of 1064 00:59:06,612 --> 00:59:08,234 an internal geometry to it. 1065 00:59:08,268 --> 00:59:10,719 There's a lot of cells and structures. 1066 00:59:10,754 --> 00:59:12,963 It is absolutely fascinating. 1067 00:59:12,997 --> 00:59:15,586 And they hid, they knew what was on these, 1068 00:59:15,621 --> 00:59:19,176 because they hid all nine of these photographs 1069 00:59:19,210 --> 00:59:20,315 under one frame number. 1070 00:59:20,349 --> 00:59:24,181 It should be 4822, 4823, 4824, 1071 00:59:24,215 --> 00:59:25,769 all the way up to 4832. 1072 00:59:25,803 --> 00:59:28,081 But it's not, it's all buried under one frame number, 1073 00:59:28,116 --> 00:59:29,807 which they, I will remind you, 1074 00:59:29,842 --> 00:59:31,153 blacked out in the catalog, 1075 00:59:31,188 --> 00:59:32,948 'cause they didn't want anybody to look at it. 1076 00:59:32,983 --> 00:59:35,295 But because of the religious aspects of this, 1077 00:59:35,330 --> 00:59:39,265 the weird, strange symbolism and stuff, 1078 00:59:39,299 --> 00:59:42,233 they couldn't just completely erase them from history. 1079 00:59:42,268 --> 00:59:45,961 They had to give you some access to the originals. 1080 00:59:46,997 --> 00:59:48,792 If it wasn't for Hoagland being super clever, 1081 00:59:48,826 --> 00:59:50,656 we would never have found this stuff. 1082 00:59:50,690 --> 00:59:53,451 [dramatic music] 1083 00:59:58,387 --> 01:00:01,701 [high pace music] 1084 01:00:01,736 --> 01:00:03,496 - For the first time, man is about 1085 01:00:03,530 --> 01:00:05,567 to set foot on the Moon surface. 1086 01:00:07,293 --> 01:00:09,709 This is the television camera that 1087 01:00:09,744 --> 01:00:12,194 will record that historic event. 1088 01:00:13,886 --> 01:00:16,854 You'll see it live on your home television set. 1089 01:00:17,821 --> 01:00:21,203 I'm Stan Lebar Westinghouse program manager 1090 01:00:21,238 --> 01:00:23,102 for Apollo television cameras. 1091 01:00:24,103 --> 01:00:26,761 The public is probably most familiar 1092 01:00:26,795 --> 01:00:29,522 with this color television camera 1093 01:00:29,556 --> 01:00:34,561 that was used by astronaut Tom Stafford on Apollo 10. 1094 01:00:35,252 --> 01:00:37,150 And this is a camera that took those 1095 01:00:37,185 --> 01:00:41,430 extraordinary color pictures of both the Earth and the Moon. 1096 01:00:41,465 --> 01:00:44,399 Incidentally, this color camera will be used 1097 01:00:44,433 --> 01:00:46,884 in the command module on Apollo 11. 1098 01:00:48,092 --> 01:00:50,647 But the world attention will be focused 1099 01:00:50,681 --> 01:00:53,304 on this small black and white camera 1100 01:00:53,339 --> 01:00:55,444 that will be located in the lens 1101 01:00:55,479 --> 01:00:57,688 and it will record the astronaut 1102 01:00:57,723 --> 01:01:00,553 as he descends to the lunar surface 1103 01:01:00,587 --> 01:01:03,245 and takes those first monumental steps. 1104 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,316 - [Controller] This is Apollo Saturn launch control. 1105 01:01:05,351 --> 01:01:06,939 We passed the six minute mark 1106 01:01:06,973 --> 01:01:08,699 in our countdown for Apollo 11. 1107 01:01:08,734 --> 01:01:12,530 The flight to land the first men on the Moon. 1108 01:01:12,565 --> 01:01:13,946 The vehicle's starting to pressu 1109 01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:16,638 as far as the propellant tanks are concerned 1110 01:01:16,673 --> 01:01:20,435 and all is still go as we monitor our status for it. 1111 01:01:20,469 --> 01:01:22,644 Firing command coming in now. 1112 01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:24,163 They're on an automatic sequence 1113 01:01:24,197 --> 01:01:26,993 as the master computer supervises hundreds of events 1114 01:01:27,028 --> 01:01:29,375 occurring over these last few minutes. 1115 01:01:30,479 --> 01:01:31,860 Neil Armstrong reported back 1116 01:01:31,895 --> 01:01:33,241 when he received the good wishes 1117 01:01:33,275 --> 01:01:34,311 Thank you very much. 1118 01:01:34,345 --> 01:01:36,002 We know it will be a good flight. 1119 01:01:37,072 --> 01:01:38,764 Good luck and God speed. 1120 01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:43,907 40 seconds away from the Apollo 11 lift off. 1121 01:01:43,941 --> 01:01:46,081 All the second stage tanks now pressurized, 1122 01:01:46,116 --> 01:01:47,807 35 seconds and counting. 1123 01:01:47,842 --> 01:01:52,018 We are still go with Apollo 11, T minus 15 seconds. 1124 01:01:52,053 --> 01:01:53,710 Guidance is internal. 1125 01:01:53,744 --> 01:01:58,715 12, 11, 10, 9, ignition sequence start, 6. 1126 01:02:01,441 --> 01:02:04,375 [rockets blasting] 1127 01:02:07,413 --> 01:02:10,450 - [Narrator] July 16th, 1969, 1128 01:02:10,485 --> 01:02:12,970 Apollo 11 was the fifth manned mission 1129 01:02:13,005 --> 01:02:14,765 of the US Apollo program 1130 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,527 and the first in history to land a human being on the Moon. 1131 01:02:19,494 --> 01:02:22,497 [suspenseful music] 1132 01:02:30,436 --> 01:02:33,370 [rockets blasting] 1133 01:02:45,485 --> 01:02:46,970 - [Gary Martynuik] Today, I wanted to give you a closer look 1134 01:02:47,004 --> 01:02:50,214 at a very brief segment of 16 mm "DAC" Motion Picture 1135 01:02:50,249 --> 01:02:52,285 footage from the NASA archives 1136 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,254 that was originally shot back in July in 1969 1137 01:02:55,288 --> 01:02:57,359 during the flight of Apollo 11. 1138 01:02:57,394 --> 01:02:58,809 And the footage was taken throug 1139 01:02:58,844 --> 01:03:00,846 one of the windows of the command service module 1140 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,193 during what was called the Trans-Lunar Coast 1141 01:03:03,227 --> 01:03:05,402 or TLC phase of the mission. 1142 01:03:05,436 --> 01:03:07,922 And this was the three-day period when the astronauts 1143 01:03:07,956 --> 01:03:10,752 were crossing the almost 400,000 kilometer 1144 01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:13,997 cislunar void that separates our Earth from the Moon. 1145 01:03:14,031 --> 01:03:15,170 And at some point during 1146 01:03:15,205 --> 01:03:17,586 this outbound journey through cislunar space, 1147 01:03:17,621 --> 01:03:19,381 one of the Apollo 11 astronauts 1148 01:03:19,416 --> 01:03:20,900 did some unscheduled shooting 1149 01:03:20,935 --> 01:03:23,696 with the 16 mm "DAC" Motion Picture Camera. 1150 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:25,422 And in the process managed to film 1151 01:03:25,456 --> 01:03:28,839 several unidentified objects outside their spacecraft. 1152 01:03:28,874 --> 01:03:30,807 And to show you what I mean, 1153 01:03:37,227 --> 01:03:38,642 While this particular clip has been 1154 01:03:38,676 --> 01:03:41,196 digitally archived by NASA, so that when played back, 1155 01:03:41,231 --> 01:03:43,889 it appears to be about one second in duration, 1156 01:03:43,923 --> 01:03:45,545 it is not actually showing us 1157 01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:48,134 a one second period of time caught on film. 1158 01:03:48,169 --> 01:03:49,998 This clip we're examining here is actually 1159 01:03:50,033 --> 01:03:52,345 time compressed stop motion footage. 1160 01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:54,451 And in this case, the sequence is comprised 1161 01:03:54,485 --> 01:03:58,489 of 11 individual distinct frames of 16 millimeter film 1162 01:03:58,524 --> 01:04:01,285 that were originally exposed at one frame per second 1163 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,185 intervals over a period of 11 seconds. 1164 01:04:04,219 --> 01:04:06,532 And this type of stop motion filming was possible, 1165 01:04:06,566 --> 01:04:09,569 because the Mauer 16 mm DAC that was used 1166 01:04:09,604 --> 01:04:11,848 throughout the Apollo program was in fact 1167 01:04:11,882 --> 01:04:13,919 a variable frame rate motion picture camera 1168 01:04:13,953 --> 01:04:15,575 that was capable of shooting 1169 01:04:15,610 --> 01:04:17,957 at four different preset exposure speeds 1170 01:04:17,992 --> 01:04:21,443 either 1, 6, 12, or 24 frames per second. 1171 01:04:21,478 --> 01:04:24,584 And in the case of this footage, rather than archiving it 1172 01:04:24,619 --> 01:04:27,518 at the correct one frame per second playback speed, 1173 01:04:27,553 --> 01:04:29,831 they instead incorrectly archived the sequence 1174 01:04:29,866 --> 01:04:33,041 as if it had been shot at 12 frames per second instead. 1175 01:04:33,076 --> 01:04:34,663 So this means that NASA actually 1176 01:04:34,698 --> 01:04:36,907 present this stop motion sequence in such a way 1177 01:04:36,942 --> 01:04:38,736 that it is being shown at a playback rate 1178 01:04:38,771 --> 01:04:40,428 that's 12 times faster than 1179 01:04:40,462 --> 01:04:42,602 what the frames were actually exposed at. 1180 01:04:42,637 --> 01:04:43,914 Whatever these objects are, 1181 01:04:43,949 --> 01:04:45,743 they are clearly flying free in space. 1182 01:04:45,778 --> 01:04:48,539 And we can say with certainty that they are definitely 1183 01:04:48,574 --> 01:04:51,473 not any declared satellites or known debris. 1184 01:04:51,508 --> 01:04:53,544 We don't know what they are, where they came from, 1185 01:04:53,579 --> 01:04:55,063 how they got there, where they're going, 1186 01:04:55,098 --> 01:04:56,202 or what they're doing there. 1187 01:04:56,237 --> 01:04:58,204 And that by definition puts them 1188 01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:00,448 into the category of being unidentified. 1189 01:05:01,449 --> 01:05:05,832 - So if somebody's gonna say UFOs are just our craft 1190 01:05:05,867 --> 01:05:10,251 from a very top secret aerospace project, 1191 01:05:10,285 --> 01:05:14,945 and for example, some people will say the Phoenix Lights, 1192 01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:18,776 that might have been what's called a TR3B. 1193 01:05:18,811 --> 01:05:23,816 It's supposed to be this massive black budget craft 1194 01:05:24,058 --> 01:05:29,063 that was a crew and heavy equipment carrier 1195 01:05:30,443 --> 01:05:33,136 that would take stuff to space in sort of 1196 01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:36,380 what people label a secret space program. 1197 01:05:37,450 --> 01:05:38,969 What do you think about that? 1198 01:05:39,004 --> 01:05:39,832 - I don't believe it. 1199 01:05:39,866 --> 01:05:40,660 - You don't believe it? 1200 01:05:40,695 --> 01:05:42,041 - Nope, don't believe it. 1201 01:05:42,076 --> 01:05:44,078 - Would you say that the Phoenix- 1202 01:05:44,112 --> 01:05:45,010 - I think that the Phoenix Lights, 1203 01:05:45,044 --> 01:05:46,287 I mean that was like two miles across 1204 01:05:46,321 --> 01:05:47,391 from the eyewitness testimony, 1205 01:05:47,426 --> 01:05:49,186 including the Governor of Arizona. 1206 01:05:49,221 --> 01:05:52,258 And it could hover very, very slowly. 1207 01:05:53,432 --> 01:05:55,710 And when it took off, it took off 1208 01:05:55,744 --> 01:05:57,263 like at the speed of light. 1209 01:05:57,298 --> 01:05:58,506 I mean, it would change its shape 1210 01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:00,542 a little bit and just gone. 1211 01:06:00,577 --> 01:06:03,166 And then you have the telepathic aspect of it too, 1212 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,064 from the witnesses that I spoke to. 1213 01:06:05,099 --> 01:06:07,618 So, I'm not gonna sit there and say that 1214 01:06:07,653 --> 01:06:09,206 I definitively can make a statement 1215 01:06:09,241 --> 01:06:12,002 that there's no such thing as a secret space program. 1216 01:06:12,037 --> 01:06:13,590 I just haven't seen the evidence for it 1217 01:06:13,624 --> 01:06:16,006 and I haven't heard the test testimony for it. 1218 01:06:16,041 --> 01:06:22,806 And I'm highly dubious, even though here I am 1219 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,050 putting out a film on a UFO crash 1220 01:06:25,084 --> 01:06:26,913 with live aliens in the town, 1221 01:06:26,948 --> 01:06:31,953 but I haven't seen the evidence. 1222 01:06:32,781 --> 01:06:35,992 I mean, it makes sense that there would be, 1223 01:06:36,026 --> 01:06:37,338 there are sightings here. 1224 01:06:37,372 --> 01:06:39,478 Why wouldn't there be sightings out there? 1225 01:06:41,169 --> 01:06:42,895 It's not my area of expertise. 1226 01:06:42,929 --> 01:06:45,691 I don't dig into, I look into the phenomenon 1227 01:06:45,725 --> 01:06:48,245 and if it leads me to an astronaut, great. 1228 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,938 And if not, you know, so I just know 1229 01:06:51,973 --> 01:06:54,803 that what Fay Ann Potter told me 1230 01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:57,289 about her brother Buzz Aldrin, 1231 01:06:57,323 --> 01:06:59,843 that they saw something on the way to the Moon. 1232 01:06:59,877 --> 01:07:03,605 [rhythmic suspenseful music] 1233 01:07:09,508 --> 01:07:14,064 [rhythmic suspenseful music continues] 1234 01:07:21,106 --> 01:07:23,832 [dramatic music] 1235 01:07:34,188 --> 01:07:36,328 - [Narrator] The lunar landing was on July 20th 1236 01:07:36,362 --> 01:07:37,881 of that same year. 1237 01:07:37,915 --> 01:07:40,504 And the following day, two astronauts became 1238 01:07:40,539 --> 01:07:43,404 the first to walk on the lunar surface. 1239 01:07:43,438 --> 01:07:47,028 [dramatic music continues] 1240 01:08:02,457 --> 01:08:05,564 - [Astronaut] Okay, engine stop APA at a defense 1241 01:08:05,598 --> 01:08:09,050 or control both auto-dependent command override off. 1242 01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:10,603 Engine arm off. 1243 01:08:10,638 --> 01:08:12,157 For 13 is in. 1244 01:08:13,537 --> 01:08:15,401 - [Astronaut] We copy it down, Eagle. 1245 01:08:15,884 --> 01:08:17,196 Houston, uh... 1246 01:08:21,649 --> 01:08:24,824 - [Controller] Roger tranquility we copy you on the ground. 1247 01:08:24,859 --> 01:08:26,723 You got a bunch of guys about to turn blue, 1248 01:08:26,757 --> 01:08:28,552 we're breathing again, thanks a lot. 1249 01:08:29,933 --> 01:08:32,246 - When we did get close and we rolled out 1250 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,077 and saw it for the first time, it was a revelation. 1251 01:08:36,112 --> 01:08:40,046 It was gigantic, it filled our entire window. 1252 01:08:42,911 --> 01:08:44,327 - Flying through the Moon shadow 1253 01:08:44,361 --> 01:08:48,883 and seeing the Sun eclipsed by the Moon as we approached it, 1254 01:08:48,917 --> 01:08:50,609 that was a very spectacular sight. 1255 01:08:51,713 --> 01:08:53,784 - [Narrator] Commander Armstrong was the first human 1256 01:08:53,819 --> 01:08:56,649 to set foot on the surface of the Earth's satellite 1257 01:08:56,684 --> 01:09:01,689 on July 21st, 1969 at 02:56 UTC, international time 1258 01:09:03,104 --> 01:09:05,417 south of the Sea of Tranquility, 1259 01:09:05,451 --> 01:09:08,420 six and a half hours after landing on the Moon. 1260 01:09:08,454 --> 01:09:12,217 This historic milestone was broadcast to the entire planet 1261 01:09:12,251 --> 01:09:15,081 from the Parks Observatory in Australia. 1262 01:09:15,116 --> 01:09:17,256 - [Neil Armstrong] Here, men from the planet Earth, 1263 01:09:17,291 --> 01:09:20,156 first step foot upon the moon, July 1969. 1264 01:09:23,504 --> 01:09:26,265 We came in peace for all mankind. 1265 01:09:27,232 --> 01:09:29,958 [dramatic music] 1266 01:09:36,655 --> 01:09:40,210 [dramatic music continues] 1267 01:09:46,112 --> 01:09:49,668 [dramatic music continues] 1268 01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:58,815 [dramatic music continues] 1269 01:10:04,648 --> 01:10:08,204 [dramatic music continues] 1270 01:10:14,589 --> 01:10:18,214 [dramatic music continues] 1271 01:10:21,147 --> 01:10:22,045 - [Astronaut] It's beautiful. 1272 01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:23,943 - [Astronaut] Isn't that something? 1273 01:10:23,978 --> 01:10:28,051 Say here are you talking about a mysterious looking place. 1274 01:10:28,085 --> 01:10:30,743 They can cut some fresh some parts of those pictures up. 1275 01:10:30,778 --> 01:10:33,159 Make a nice photograph. 1276 01:10:33,194 --> 01:10:35,921 [dramatic music] 1277 01:10:41,651 --> 01:10:45,241 [dramatic music continues] 1278 01:10:51,523 --> 01:10:53,973 They can cut some fresh some parts of those pictures up. 1279 01:10:54,008 --> 01:10:56,113 Make a nice photograph. 1280 01:10:56,148 --> 01:10:59,703 [dramatic music continues] 1281 01:11:07,539 --> 01:11:10,196 - There's this thing that came out about 2014, 1282 01:11:10,231 --> 01:11:12,268 and it's an image that was found on the internet 1283 01:11:12,302 --> 01:11:13,579 that had actually been posted 1284 01:11:13,614 --> 01:11:16,479 back in the early days like 2002. 1285 01:11:16,513 --> 01:11:20,276 And it had a number as1120pyramid20small2.jpg, 1286 01:11:23,451 --> 01:11:25,246 that was the name of the image. 1287 01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:27,938 And it showed what clearly appears to be 1288 01:11:27,973 --> 01:11:30,286 an artificial structure on the surface of the Moon, 1289 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,909 but nobody really knew where it came from. 1290 01:11:32,943 --> 01:11:36,706 The AS11 indicated that it was an Apollo 11 shot, 1291 01:11:36,740 --> 01:11:39,225 and it took researchers quite a while 1292 01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:40,779 to actually find the image. 1293 01:11:40,813 --> 01:11:45,680 And it turned out the image was AS11-38-5564. 1294 01:11:45,715 --> 01:11:46,612 Now this is interesting, 1295 01:11:46,647 --> 01:11:48,752 because it was an image that was taken, 1296 01:11:48,787 --> 01:11:51,065 it was a photograph that was taken 1297 01:11:51,099 --> 01:11:52,929 by one of the Apollo 11 astronauts, 1298 01:11:52,963 --> 01:11:55,932 either Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin or Michael Collins 1299 01:11:55,966 --> 01:11:59,211 shooting out the window of the command module 1300 01:11:59,245 --> 01:12:02,352 as they were flying over the lunar surface 1301 01:12:02,387 --> 01:12:03,905 on trans Earth injection. 1302 01:12:03,940 --> 01:12:05,631 They had already fired the engine, 1303 01:12:05,666 --> 01:12:06,805 they were heading towards Earth 1304 01:12:06,839 --> 01:12:08,600 and they were just shooting the hell 1305 01:12:08,634 --> 01:12:10,671 out of the backside of the Moon. 1306 01:12:10,705 --> 01:12:12,983 Now, the interesting thing about this is that 1307 01:12:13,018 --> 01:12:14,951 they took these pictures just, again, 1308 01:12:14,985 --> 01:12:16,159 probably with a power winder, 1309 01:12:16,193 --> 01:12:17,402 one after the other, after the other. 1310 01:12:17,436 --> 01:12:21,337 But the film was so good that they could take 1311 01:12:22,614 --> 01:12:24,374 just lots and lots of photographs. 1312 01:12:24,409 --> 01:12:29,379 This is the image as it appeared in an a NASA archive. 1313 01:12:31,899 --> 01:12:35,247 And it's an image of a crater called Daedalus. 1314 01:12:35,281 --> 01:12:38,526 Now, this thing is very, very near the crater Daedalus, 1315 01:12:38,561 --> 01:12:40,804 it's actually Daedalus R, I believe. 1316 01:12:40,839 --> 01:12:45,844 And Daedalus is dead center on the back disc of the Moon. 1317 01:12:45,878 --> 01:12:48,225 In other words, it's the exact antipode, 1318 01:12:48,260 --> 01:12:52,195 the other side of Sinus Medii where we just saw The Castle. 1319 01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:54,611 So you might expect to find something there. 1320 01:12:54,646 --> 01:12:57,580 I have a feeling this is why they were photographing this. 1321 01:12:57,614 --> 01:13:00,583 So in that area, and again, 1322 01:13:00,617 --> 01:13:03,102 this is Sinus Medii with the triangular crater, 1323 01:13:03,137 --> 01:13:04,759 pretty interesting stuff. 1324 01:13:04,794 --> 01:13:07,141 And then on the back you have this Ziggurat. 1325 01:13:07,175 --> 01:13:09,039 So, as we looked at this thing, 1326 01:13:10,765 --> 01:13:13,216 it began to look more and more like something 1327 01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:16,184 that was completely artificial and did not belong there. 1328 01:13:16,219 --> 01:13:19,878 And again, I went through it, did some enhancement, 1329 01:13:21,224 --> 01:13:22,536 tried to get more detail out. 1330 01:13:22,570 --> 01:13:24,641 And what you see, or at least what I saw 1331 01:13:24,676 --> 01:13:27,610 is these four walls, this wall structure, 1332 01:13:28,956 --> 01:13:32,235 sort of a weird angled front end to it. 1333 01:13:32,269 --> 01:13:33,995 Kind of there's a triangle shape there, 1334 01:13:34,030 --> 01:13:38,448 and then there's like a central box with maybe windows. 1335 01:13:38,483 --> 01:13:40,588 There's a passageway to actually enter it 1336 01:13:40,623 --> 01:13:42,625 and like a little dome on top. 1337 01:13:42,659 --> 01:13:43,833 Pretty bizarre stuff. 1338 01:13:43,867 --> 01:13:46,249 Well, somebody pointed out this looks a lot like 1339 01:13:46,283 --> 01:13:51,288 the Ziggurat at Ur in Mesopotamia or modern day Iraq. 1340 01:13:51,496 --> 01:13:53,359 And yeah, here's this basic structure. 1341 01:13:53,394 --> 01:13:56,777 Here's these entrances, these walkways, 1342 01:13:56,811 --> 01:13:58,537 this is what it looked like when they first found it 1343 01:13:58,572 --> 01:14:02,472 in the 1930s and it's now been re-excavated. 1344 01:14:02,507 --> 01:14:04,336 And this is what the original structure looked like. 1345 01:14:04,370 --> 01:14:05,613 You have exterior walls, 1346 01:14:05,648 --> 01:14:07,995 you have an interior square structure, 1347 01:14:08,029 --> 01:14:09,686 you have a single entranceway, 1348 01:14:09,721 --> 01:14:12,240 which is how they were set up for defense. 1349 01:14:12,275 --> 01:14:15,934 And then you have these ramps leading up to it. 1350 01:14:15,968 --> 01:14:18,143 Now, if you were to take these ramps 1351 01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:22,147 and like fill them in, again, here's a little dome. 1352 01:14:22,181 --> 01:14:25,081 So, a little dome right here on top of the structure. 1353 01:14:25,115 --> 01:14:27,463 So, it looks basically like this 1354 01:14:27,497 --> 01:14:29,188 Like there's an exterior structure 1355 01:14:29,223 --> 01:14:32,468 and an interior structure like a Ziggurat. 1356 01:14:32,502 --> 01:14:34,055 And again, I'm gonna remind you, okay, 1357 01:14:34,090 --> 01:14:36,333 here's a dome, here's a little dome, 1358 01:14:36,368 --> 01:14:37,887 here's an interior square structure, 1359 01:14:37,921 --> 01:14:39,613 here's the interior square structure, 1360 01:14:39,647 --> 01:14:42,098 here's the exterior walls, there they are. 1361 01:14:42,132 --> 01:14:45,239 And then here's, if you took this area 1362 01:14:45,273 --> 01:14:48,173 and filled it in, it would look with dirt, 1363 01:14:48,207 --> 01:14:51,590 it would look probably just like this thing does. 1364 01:14:51,625 --> 01:14:56,250 The problem is when you go to AS11-38-5564, 1365 01:14:58,424 --> 01:15:00,219 it doesn't really look quite the same. 1366 01:15:00,254 --> 01:15:03,533 So we finally found the object near the crater Daedalus R. 1367 01:15:03,568 --> 01:15:05,362 This is the area involved. 1368 01:15:05,397 --> 01:15:07,917 This is the original image that was found 1369 01:15:07,951 --> 01:15:10,195 by a guy named KK Samurai, by the way. 1370 01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:11,748 That was what he called himself. 1371 01:15:11,783 --> 01:15:14,440 He's the one who found that he was given this image 1372 01:15:14,475 --> 01:15:17,236 by a very interesting character. 1373 01:15:17,271 --> 01:15:21,068 So here is the Daedalus Ziggurat, on today's image. 1374 01:15:21,102 --> 01:15:22,725 It's gone, right? Where is it? 1375 01:15:22,759 --> 01:15:25,106 Well, it's actually supposed to be right here, 1376 01:15:25,141 --> 01:15:26,107 right here in the middle. 1377 01:15:26,142 --> 01:15:28,109 But there's the front ramps, there's the, 1378 01:15:28,144 --> 01:15:29,317 but it's all gone. 1379 01:15:29,352 --> 01:15:32,700 It's just blank, it's nothing but a crater. 1380 01:15:33,425 --> 01:15:36,566 And again, I did the best I could with it, 1381 01:15:36,601 --> 01:15:38,464 with what they have on NASA's surface now. 1382 01:15:38,499 --> 01:15:41,364 It doesn't look like really anything. 1383 01:15:41,398 --> 01:15:43,297 They've blurred it out. They've... [inaudible] 1384 01:15:45,264 --> 01:15:46,196 They've added shadows. 1385 01:15:46,231 --> 01:15:47,439 And again, I'm gonna tell you again, 1386 01:15:47,473 --> 01:15:50,028 I went and analyzed the interior of this crater 1387 01:15:50,062 --> 01:15:51,685 and this area here. 1388 01:15:51,719 --> 01:15:55,412 And again, it's one color, pitch black, 1389 01:15:55,447 --> 01:15:56,482 over the entire thing. 1390 01:15:56,517 --> 01:15:59,865 That means they drew on this, they drew on this. 1391 01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:03,006 If they drew on this, they drew on other parts of it too. 1392 01:16:03,041 --> 01:16:07,183 So, again, from a distance, as you step back, 1393 01:16:07,217 --> 01:16:09,392 it kind of looks like the same thing, 1394 01:16:09,426 --> 01:16:11,774 but it actually really doesn't. 1395 01:16:11,808 --> 01:16:13,879 They're trying to convince you this is nothing, 1396 01:16:13,914 --> 01:16:15,156 but an optical illusion. 1397 01:16:16,364 --> 01:16:19,851 Now, I got into very strong conflict 1398 01:16:19,885 --> 01:16:21,507 with a couple of NASA guys over there. 1399 01:16:21,542 --> 01:16:23,475 They're like, oh, it's obviously nothing. 1400 01:16:23,509 --> 01:16:26,685 You know, you can't, yeah, you're crazy. 1401 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,929 You don't know what you're looking at. 1402 01:16:28,963 --> 01:16:31,000 But clearly what's happened here is that 1403 01:16:31,034 --> 01:16:34,003 the original image from which KK Samurai 1404 01:16:34,037 --> 01:16:37,385 drew his conclusions and his version 1405 01:16:37,420 --> 01:16:40,561 is completely different than 5564. 1406 01:16:40,596 --> 01:16:44,323 The problem is, is we didn't know at the time originally 1407 01:16:44,358 --> 01:16:48,707 where he got this interesting version. 1408 01:16:48,742 --> 01:16:51,468 Where did he get it from, and what was on it? 1409 01:16:51,503 --> 01:16:53,609 But here's the thing, this is supposed to be 1410 01:16:53,643 --> 01:16:54,955 the Ziggurat right here. 1411 01:16:54,989 --> 01:16:59,269 But as I looked at this image, I found that there was, 1412 01:16:59,304 --> 01:17:00,995 even though they had erased the Ziggurat, 1413 01:17:01,030 --> 01:17:02,583 there was a lot of other interesting stuff 1414 01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:03,653 on here they didn't erase. 1415 01:17:03,688 --> 01:17:05,379 A lot of interesting stuff. 1416 01:17:06,242 --> 01:17:07,864 These are some of the areas that are marked 1417 01:17:07,899 --> 01:17:09,970 as we go through them real quickly. 1418 01:17:10,004 --> 01:17:13,663 There's this particular, um, guy, 1419 01:17:13,698 --> 01:17:15,354 which is just a sort of a normal crater. 1420 01:17:15,389 --> 01:17:17,529 But then what is this thing up above here? 1421 01:17:17,563 --> 01:17:19,565 What is this one up here? 1422 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,190 Number five, up in the corner of the image. 1423 01:17:23,224 --> 01:17:25,054 And as we zoom up on that, 1424 01:17:25,088 --> 01:17:28,333 I see stuff that with my trained eye 1425 01:17:28,367 --> 01:17:29,679 looks really, really weird. 1426 01:17:29,714 --> 01:17:30,991 This is the area where they have 1427 01:17:31,025 --> 01:17:33,579 blacked out the sky behind this. 1428 01:17:33,614 --> 01:17:34,684 Well, what is this thing? 1429 01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:38,792 Well, if you look at it, it's pretty bizarre, 1430 01:17:38,826 --> 01:17:42,830 because what you've got here is this is a hangar 1431 01:17:44,004 --> 01:17:46,627 cut into the side of this mountain. 1432 01:17:47,524 --> 01:17:50,010 It's filled in with debris in the front. 1433 01:17:50,044 --> 01:17:51,218 And that would be the other side. 1434 01:17:51,252 --> 01:17:52,944 You're looking at it at an angle 1435 01:17:52,978 --> 01:17:57,051 and then this is some sort of disc shape 1436 01:17:57,086 --> 01:17:59,433 with something else going on. 1437 01:17:59,467 --> 01:18:02,470 Like what the hell are these things? 1438 01:18:02,505 --> 01:18:07,510 See, stone, spire, stone, spire, stone, what are they? 1439 01:18:07,786 --> 01:18:09,546 But it's right there and they're all in the same area. 1440 01:18:09,581 --> 01:18:12,929 Because if you have one anomaly, no matter how clear it is, 1441 01:18:12,964 --> 01:18:15,207 if there's nothing else around it, 1442 01:18:15,242 --> 01:18:16,726 you can't really say it's something. 1443 01:18:16,761 --> 01:18:20,005 It could just be, again, a really bizarre looking artifact. 1444 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:24,561 So let's go back and look, this is another, 1445 01:18:24,596 --> 01:18:26,771 there's like a tube that you can follow 1446 01:18:26,805 --> 01:18:29,877 that runs for miles and miles along the surface 1447 01:18:29,912 --> 01:18:33,122 and then seems to attach itself like a drill 1448 01:18:33,156 --> 01:18:36,297 underneath this overhanging ridge. 1449 01:18:36,332 --> 01:18:37,471 This thing is hanging there. 1450 01:18:37,505 --> 01:18:38,714 There's all kinds of structure. 1451 01:18:38,748 --> 01:18:39,853 It's just bizarre. 1452 01:18:41,786 --> 01:18:44,271 - People who come here to this museum 1453 01:18:44,305 --> 01:18:48,724 and look at our spacecraft, Columbia, 1454 01:18:48,758 --> 01:18:51,761 are most often struck by its small size, 1455 01:18:51,796 --> 01:18:54,695 which from their perspective is understandable. 1456 01:18:55,972 --> 01:18:58,630 From our point of view, the command module 1457 01:18:58,664 --> 01:19:03,083 was a wonderful improvement over our previous spacecraft, 1458 01:19:03,117 --> 01:19:05,050 which were really cramped. 1459 01:19:05,085 --> 01:19:09,192 And so, we enjoyed the luxury of a big volume machine. 1460 01:19:09,227 --> 01:19:12,092 - Yeah, I thought we had amazingly good accommodations. 1461 01:19:12,126 --> 01:19:13,610 We had hot and cold water. 1462 01:19:13,645 --> 01:19:15,578 The food was even edible. 1463 01:19:15,612 --> 01:19:20,617 All in all, it was a nicely packaged, small enclosure, 1464 01:19:22,688 --> 01:19:24,967 and we could comfortably have stayed there 1465 01:19:25,001 --> 01:19:27,383 far in excessive eight days. 1466 01:19:27,417 --> 01:19:29,730 - [Narrator] On July 24th, the three astronauts 1467 01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:32,526 achieved a perfect splash down in the waters 1468 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,873 of the Pacific Ocean ending the mission. 1469 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,705 [inspirational music] 1470 01:19:39,740 --> 01:19:43,261 - Well, it proved that the United States 1471 01:19:43,295 --> 01:19:46,540 could accomplish tremendous goals 1472 01:19:46,574 --> 01:19:48,714 if they worked together as a team. 1473 01:19:49,715 --> 01:19:52,339 - After the flight of Apollo 11, 1474 01:19:52,373 --> 01:19:54,824 Neil Armstrong, Buzz Alder and I 1475 01:19:54,859 --> 01:19:57,275 had an around the world tour. 1476 01:19:57,309 --> 01:20:00,519 And every place we went, I thought they'd 1477 01:20:01,658 --> 01:20:03,591 in some places have the attitude of, 1478 01:20:03,626 --> 01:20:06,077 oh, well you Americans finally did this. 1479 01:20:06,111 --> 01:20:09,839 Not at all, the attitude, every country, 1480 01:20:09,874 --> 01:20:12,877 regardless of their internal politics, 1481 01:20:12,911 --> 01:20:15,638 they all said, we did it, we humans. 1482 01:20:21,195 --> 01:20:24,371 [audience applauding] 1483 01:20:30,342 --> 01:20:34,346 [audience applauding continues] 1484 01:20:37,177 --> 01:20:38,695 - It was our pleasure to have 1485 01:20:38,730 --> 01:20:41,664 participated in one great adventure. 1486 01:20:43,666 --> 01:20:45,047 It's an adventure that took place 1487 01:20:45,081 --> 01:20:47,635 not just in the month of July, 1488 01:20:48,636 --> 01:20:51,674 but rather one that took place in the last decade. 1489 01:20:56,299 --> 01:21:00,821 We all here and the people listening in today 1490 01:21:00,856 --> 01:21:03,893 had the opportunity to share that adventure 1491 01:21:03,928 --> 01:21:06,102 over its developing and unfolding 1492 01:21:07,863 --> 01:21:09,934 in the past months and years. 1493 01:21:11,901 --> 01:21:16,009 It's our privilege today to share with you 1494 01:21:17,424 --> 01:21:22,429 some of the details of that final month of July. 1495 01:21:25,294 --> 01:21:29,781 That was certainly the highlight 1496 01:21:29,815 --> 01:21:33,578 for the three of us of that decade. 1497 01:21:35,028 --> 01:21:37,064 We're going to divert a little bit 1498 01:21:37,099 --> 01:21:41,689 from the format of past press conferences 1499 01:21:42,656 --> 01:21:47,661 and talk about the things that interested us most. 1500 01:21:48,696 --> 01:21:53,356 In particular, the things that occurred 1501 01:21:54,426 --> 01:21:56,152 on and about the Moon. 1502 01:21:56,187 --> 01:21:58,361 - [Reporter] Apollo 11 astronaut, Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin, 1503 01:21:58,396 --> 01:22:00,191 the second man to walk on the Moon, 1504 01:22:00,225 --> 01:22:02,745 has actually given an interview where he confirmed 1505 01:22:02,779 --> 01:22:04,712 that certain segments of his Apollo mission 1506 01:22:04,747 --> 01:22:06,266 were indeed carefully scripted 1507 01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:09,441 to control exactly what the public saw and heard. 1508 01:22:09,476 --> 01:22:11,788 Back in 2003, Aldrin was interviewed 1509 01:22:11,823 --> 01:22:14,619 for Neil Armstrong's only authorized biography. 1510 01:22:14,653 --> 01:22:16,862 And during that interview, he was asked about 1511 01:22:16,897 --> 01:22:19,003 whether some of the live television transmissions 1512 01:22:19,037 --> 01:22:21,143 that were made from the CSM during the flight 1513 01:22:21,177 --> 01:22:23,628 really were improvised and unscripted. 1514 01:22:23,662 --> 01:22:26,355 And in response, Aldrin first admits that NASA 1515 01:22:26,389 --> 01:22:29,047 quote went to great lengths unquote 1516 01:22:29,082 --> 01:22:31,498 to make sure that they appeared unscripted. 1517 01:22:31,532 --> 01:22:33,362 And he then goes on to say the following, 1518 01:22:33,396 --> 01:22:35,191 and I'll quote Aldrin directly here. 1519 01:22:48,756 --> 01:22:53,727 - We will use a number of films and slides, 1520 01:22:55,591 --> 01:22:58,076 which most of you have already seen, 1521 01:22:59,836 --> 01:23:04,186 and with the intent of pointing out 1522 01:23:04,220 --> 01:23:07,361 some of the things that we observed on the spot, 1523 01:23:07,396 --> 01:23:11,503 which may not be obvious to those of you 1524 01:23:11,538 --> 01:23:17,544 who are looking at them here from the surface of Earth. 1525 01:23:18,027 --> 01:23:20,788 - [Narrator] This motion picture DAC footage 1526 01:23:20,823 --> 01:23:24,723 was recorded during the Apollo 11 ascent back into orbit 1527 01:23:24,758 --> 01:23:28,003 and famously presents an orb-lik 1528 01:23:28,037 --> 01:23:30,108 flying along the lunar horizon. 1529 01:23:33,387 --> 01:23:36,011 [ominous music] 1530 01:23:42,017 --> 01:23:46,193 - What's very interesting about the Apollo 11 manned mission 1531 01:23:46,228 --> 01:23:51,233 is that this mission also would be very rife with rumors of 1532 01:23:52,096 --> 01:23:57,066 anomalous or UFO activity out there on the Moon. 1533 01:23:57,653 --> 01:24:00,138 In fact, one of the rumors that's quite prevalent 1534 01:24:00,173 --> 01:24:03,797 is that a craft was waiting. 1535 01:24:03,831 --> 01:24:07,525 A non-terrestrial craft was waiting on the lunar surface 1536 01:24:07,559 --> 01:24:09,665 for the Apollo 11 astronauts 1537 01:24:09,699 --> 01:24:12,771 when they did their first Moon walks. 1538 01:24:12,806 --> 01:24:17,155 Another rumor that actually came from Buzz Aldrin, 1539 01:24:17,190 --> 01:24:19,399 the Apollo 11 astronaut himself, 1540 01:24:19,433 --> 01:24:24,404 was that a UFO was following the Apollo spacecraft 1541 01:24:24,852 --> 01:24:29,236 on the way to the Moon in the middle of cislunar space. 1542 01:24:29,271 --> 01:24:31,928 And the astronauts had tracked it 1543 01:24:31,963 --> 01:24:34,828 while they were floating through space. 1544 01:24:34,862 --> 01:24:37,520 [ominous music] 1545 01:24:44,044 --> 01:24:48,324 [ominous music continues] 1546 01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:58,645 - Buzz Aldrin could have been one of these important figures 1547 01:24:58,679 --> 01:25:02,097 that actually proved there is UFO activity 1548 01:25:02,131 --> 01:25:04,029 happening in outer space. 1549 01:25:04,858 --> 01:25:07,999 But unfortunately, he became very contradictory 1550 01:25:08,033 --> 01:25:11,416 on his initial story in mainstream media. 1551 01:25:14,178 --> 01:25:19,183 - There was something out there that was close enough 1552 01:25:19,907 --> 01:25:23,635 to be observed and, uh, what could it be? 1553 01:25:27,846 --> 01:25:31,402 Mike decided he thought he could see it in the telescope 1554 01:25:31,436 --> 01:25:33,024 and he was able to do that. 1555 01:25:33,058 --> 01:25:35,613 And when it was in one position 1556 01:25:35,647 --> 01:25:37,925 that had a series of ellipses, 1557 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,479 but when you made it real sharp, 1558 01:25:39,513 --> 01:25:42,896 it was sort of L-shaped that didn't tell us very much. 1559 01:25:42,930 --> 01:25:47,901 Now obviously, the three of us were not gonna blurt out, 1560 01:25:47,935 --> 01:25:51,042 Hey Houston, we got something moving alongside of us 1561 01:25:51,076 --> 01:25:52,768 and we don't know what it is. 1562 01:25:52,802 --> 01:25:54,218 Can you tell us what it is? 1563 01:25:54,252 --> 01:25:56,081 We weren't about to do that, 1564 01:25:56,944 --> 01:25:59,637 'cause we know that those transmissions 1565 01:25:59,671 --> 01:26:01,363 would be heard by all sorts of people 1566 01:26:01,397 --> 01:26:04,366 and who knows what somebody would've demanded 1567 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,300 that we turned back because of aliens 1568 01:26:07,334 --> 01:26:09,750 or whatever the reason is. 1569 01:26:09,785 --> 01:26:13,892 So, we didn't do that, but we did decide, 1570 01:26:13,927 --> 01:26:18,518 we just cautiously ask Houston where, 1571 01:26:18,552 --> 01:26:21,037 how far away was the S4B. 1572 01:26:21,072 --> 01:26:23,971 And a few moments later why they came back 1573 01:26:24,006 --> 01:26:27,768 and said something like, it was 6,000 miles away, 1574 01:26:27,803 --> 01:26:29,322 because of the maneuver. 1575 01:26:29,356 --> 01:26:31,565 So, we really didn't think we were 1576 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,603 looking at something that far away. 1577 01:26:34,637 --> 01:26:38,296 So, we decided that after a while of watching it, 1578 01:26:38,331 --> 01:26:41,437 it was time to go to sleep and not to talk about it anymore 1579 01:26:41,472 --> 01:26:44,233 until we came back in debriefing. 1580 01:26:44,268 --> 01:26:47,409 I saw this illumination that was moving 1581 01:26:47,443 --> 01:26:49,859 with respect to the stars. 1582 01:26:49,894 --> 01:26:52,690 We were smart enough to not say, 1583 01:26:52,724 --> 01:26:55,693 Houston, there's a light out there that's following us. 1584 01:26:56,728 --> 01:27:01,595 So, technically becomes an unidentified flying object. 1585 01:27:01,630 --> 01:27:02,458 [Echo] Flying object. 1586 01:27:04,357 --> 01:27:05,185 [indistinct] 1587 01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:07,083 - All I can think about. 1588 01:27:07,118 --> 01:27:13,089 But in any case, I was on set and I was just a gopher 1589 01:27:13,124 --> 01:27:15,575 and I turned out I got a little role, 1590 01:27:15,609 --> 01:27:18,854 but Mickey Rooney was like, "Oh, what are you doing 1591 01:27:18,888 --> 01:27:20,614 when you're not here helping us out?" 1592 01:27:20,649 --> 01:27:23,548 And I said, "I'm making a UFO film." 1593 01:27:23,583 --> 01:27:26,448 He goes, "Oh, I'm friends with Buzz Aldrin 1594 01:27:26,482 --> 01:27:28,795 and you should talk to him sometime. 1595 01:27:28,829 --> 01:27:31,315 He's got some pretty interesting stories." 1596 01:27:31,349 --> 01:27:35,353 And so, that was my initial in with Buzz Aldrin. 1597 01:27:36,043 --> 01:27:36,768 Um, 1598 01:27:37,838 --> 01:27:43,465 And then I would say probably three years later 1599 01:27:44,707 --> 01:27:49,781 I met Fay Ann Potter, Buzz Aldrin's sister. 1600 01:27:49,816 --> 01:27:51,818 So I'm talking to Fay Ann Potter and I said, 1601 01:27:51,852 --> 01:27:56,926 I found out it was her brother was Buzz Aldrin. 1602 01:27:56,961 --> 01:28:01,103 And I'm like, I worked on this movie set 1603 01:28:01,137 --> 01:28:03,312 and I found out through Mickey Rooney 1604 01:28:03,347 --> 01:28:05,556 that your brother had a sighting, some... 1605 01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:07,937 but I didn't get any specifics. 1606 01:28:07,972 --> 01:28:12,977 She said, oh yeah, he had two encounters with UFOs 1607 01:28:13,011 --> 01:28:14,703 and one was when he was piloting, 1608 01:28:14,737 --> 01:28:15,807 this is what she told me, 1609 01:28:15,842 --> 01:28:18,983 this is what Buzz Aldrin's sister told me, okay? 1610 01:28:20,329 --> 01:28:23,815 She said that he had, and I don't know what year it was, 1611 01:28:23,850 --> 01:28:26,024 but I think it was before he went to the Moon. 1612 01:28:26,059 --> 01:28:31,064 He was flying a fighter jet and he chased a disc. 1613 01:28:31,582 --> 01:28:36,311 And she said that he was so moved by the experience 1614 01:28:36,345 --> 01:28:38,899 that he called her and he was still shaking from it. 1615 01:28:38,934 --> 01:28:41,419 He said he chased it till he couldn't go any higher, 1616 01:28:41,454 --> 01:28:42,903 didn't catch it. 1617 01:28:43,801 --> 01:28:44,940 That's what she told me. 1618 01:28:44,974 --> 01:28:48,323 Then she said he also told her 1619 01:28:48,357 --> 01:28:50,152 that they... 1620 01:28:51,464 --> 01:28:52,568 saw something, 1621 01:28:52,603 --> 01:28:55,295 or something followed them to the Moon. 1622 01:28:55,330 --> 01:28:56,814 But it was like not just a quick sighting. 1623 01:28:56,848 --> 01:28:58,988 I think it went on for like a day or two. 1624 01:28:59,023 --> 01:29:00,231 That's what she told me. 1625 01:29:01,405 --> 01:29:05,995 So, between Fay Ann Potter and Mickey Rooney 1626 01:29:07,618 --> 01:29:09,827 and his wife, Jan Rooney, 1627 01:29:10,759 --> 01:29:11,932 they said, 1628 01:29:11,967 --> 01:29:14,038 we think we can get you an interview with Buzz Aldrin. 1629 01:29:14,797 --> 01:29:18,732 So, they got my foot in the door, they contacted him. 1630 01:29:18,767 --> 01:29:20,665 Good kid, he's doing this documentary 1631 01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:23,703 and Buzz Aldrin agrees to meet with me. 1632 01:29:23,737 --> 01:29:25,498 - He's in Europe. 1633 01:29:25,532 --> 01:29:26,740 - That's the problem. 1634 01:29:26,775 --> 01:29:30,192 He was in France on tour for some book that he was doing. 1635 01:29:31,158 --> 01:29:34,092 Yes, I'll meet with James, but I'm on this book tour 1636 01:29:34,127 --> 01:29:36,543 and I'm gonna be in Monte Carlo on these dates. 1637 01:29:36,578 --> 01:29:38,683 If he wants to meet me in Monte Carlo 1638 01:29:38,718 --> 01:29:40,892 I'll meet with him and do an interview. 1639 01:29:41,203 --> 01:29:43,170 So of course, I'm gonna do that. 1640 01:29:43,205 --> 01:29:45,138 And I've got Buzz Aldrin, I think I've borrowed money 1641 01:29:45,172 --> 01:29:46,484 from somebody, I can't remember who. 1642 01:29:46,519 --> 01:29:51,765 And we get to his hotel and the concierge comes and says, 1643 01:29:52,179 --> 01:29:56,011 Mr. Fox? say, Yes? You have a telephone call. 1644 01:29:56,045 --> 01:29:57,564 And I, okay. 1645 01:29:57,599 --> 01:30:01,913 And he gives me the phone and it's Buzz Aldrin, 1646 01:30:03,156 --> 01:30:04,399 I can't do the interview. 1647 01:30:05,538 --> 01:30:07,885 I said, it's like, what do you mean 1648 01:30:07,919 --> 01:30:08,713 you can't do the interview? 1649 01:30:08,748 --> 01:30:09,507 I traveled all this way. 1650 01:30:09,542 --> 01:30:11,371 He said, I can't do it. 1651 01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:15,168 He said, it was Paul Allen. 1652 01:30:15,513 --> 01:30:16,238 - [Darcy Weir] Paul Allen? 1653 01:30:16,272 --> 01:30:17,929 - It was Paul Allen. 1654 01:30:17,964 --> 01:30:20,622 He said, Paul Allen just invested in SETI 1655 01:30:21,139 --> 01:30:23,935 and he was labeled a UFO quack, something like that. 1656 01:30:23,970 --> 01:30:25,558 - And he didn't wanna be labeled. 1657 01:30:25,592 --> 01:30:27,767 - And he said, I'm trying to get money from Congress 1658 01:30:27,801 --> 01:30:30,079 to develop a rocket that'll put citizens in space 1659 01:30:30,114 --> 01:30:32,875 and I will not jeopardize that initiative. 1660 01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:35,775 And how's my coming forward gonna change anything anyway. 1661 01:30:36,879 --> 01:30:40,296 And I responded how I felt and I said, 1662 01:30:40,331 --> 01:30:42,298 well, with all due respect, sir, 1663 01:30:42,333 --> 01:30:43,748 it takes people of your stature 1664 01:30:43,783 --> 01:30:46,510 to elevate this whole, you know, phenomenon 1665 01:30:46,544 --> 01:30:48,132 out of the rut that it's in. 1666 01:30:48,166 --> 01:30:50,686 And your contribution, your testimony, 1667 01:30:50,721 --> 01:30:52,516 would be of the utmost significance. 1668 01:30:52,826 --> 01:30:55,519 You know? He said, well, I'm not doing it. 1669 01:30:55,553 --> 01:30:58,176 And he was almost kind of angry or something 1670 01:30:58,211 --> 01:31:00,420 like, well, I did something wrong, you know? 1671 01:31:00,593 --> 01:31:01,386 And, um, 1672 01:31:02,491 --> 01:31:03,734 But he said, how's my story gonna change anything? 1673 01:31:03,768 --> 01:31:05,011 He didn't deny it at all. 1674 01:31:05,045 --> 01:31:06,909 And he was gonna go on camera and tell me about it. 1675 01:31:08,635 --> 01:31:11,500 - 12 men have ever walked on the Moon. 1676 01:31:11,535 --> 01:31:14,538 And the man who did it the second time 1677 01:31:14,572 --> 01:31:16,298 anyone walked on the Moon was Buzz Aldrin. 1678 01:31:16,332 --> 01:31:18,749 He was part of the first mission that got there, 1679 01:31:18,783 --> 01:31:20,647 The national astronaut on Apollo 11. 1680 01:31:20,682 --> 01:31:22,925 He's here with a model of Apollo 11. 1681 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,928 He was with the first pair with Neil Armstrong, of course. 1682 01:31:25,963 --> 01:31:27,551 And Buzz, the panel remains so that 1683 01:31:27,585 --> 01:31:29,138 they might wanna pop something at him. 1684 01:31:29,173 --> 01:31:31,831 But Buzz, what's your connection with this program? 1685 01:31:31,865 --> 01:31:32,866 What did you see? 1686 01:31:33,798 --> 01:31:34,868 - What did I see? 1687 01:31:36,456 --> 01:31:41,461 Well, the first day out, maybe six hours after launch, 1688 01:31:43,946 --> 01:31:46,017 we were scheduled to make a mid-course correction. 1689 01:31:46,052 --> 01:31:48,848 I'd like to show you a few things in this rocket 1690 01:31:48,882 --> 01:31:51,540 just to point out the condition that we were in. 1691 01:31:51,575 --> 01:31:56,683 We separate the command and service module 1692 01:31:56,718 --> 01:31:59,065 and it turns around like this 1693 01:31:59,099 --> 01:32:00,963 and it docks with the lunar module. 1694 01:32:00,998 --> 01:32:04,519 Now, notice these three and four panels, 1695 01:32:05,589 --> 01:32:08,661 whenever the command module separates and turns around, 1696 01:32:08,695 --> 01:32:12,561 those panels go off in four different directions. 1697 01:32:12,596 --> 01:32:14,563 And we can look out these windows 1698 01:32:14,598 --> 01:32:17,324 and see the Earth drift by and see the Moon drift by. 1699 01:32:17,359 --> 01:32:18,153 - [Larry King] And what did you see? 1700 01:32:18,187 --> 01:32:19,810 - And I saw a light out there. 1701 01:32:19,844 --> 01:32:22,571 Okay, this is after we had witnessed 1702 01:32:22,606 --> 01:32:25,643 the upper stage rocket next to us 1703 01:32:25,678 --> 01:32:29,095 make an evasive maneuver to miss the Moon. 1704 01:32:29,129 --> 01:32:30,890 And we thought, wonder what that is? 1705 01:32:30,924 --> 01:32:32,374 You know, there are a lot of lights out there 1706 01:32:32,408 --> 01:32:34,583 when you're not looking in the direction of the Sun. 1707 01:32:34,618 --> 01:32:37,448 There are a lot of stars and they're all fixed 1708 01:32:37,482 --> 01:32:38,587 relative to each other. 1709 01:32:38,622 --> 01:32:41,486 Now, one of 'em starts moving or it's moving 1710 01:32:41,521 --> 01:32:44,869 and we know that that's another object, it's not a star. 1711 01:32:44,904 --> 01:32:47,182 We started thinking a little bit more 1712 01:32:47,216 --> 01:32:50,461 about these four panels and I'd seen a graph 1713 01:32:50,495 --> 01:32:52,912 where it showed the separation distance 1714 01:32:52,946 --> 01:32:55,466 that was calculated before liftoff, 1715 01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:57,123 before the whole mission went 1716 01:32:57,157 --> 01:32:59,953 of where these panels would be 1717 01:33:01,161 --> 01:33:03,405 in case the spacecraft made some maneuver 1718 01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,510 and they guaranteed there'd be no. 1719 01:33:05,545 --> 01:33:07,512 - Hold it right there, you got me hooked. 1720 01:33:07,547 --> 01:33:08,755 - Fast forward... 1721 01:33:09,031 --> 01:33:10,239 - many years later, - Oh yeah, oh yeah, 1722 01:33:10,274 --> 01:33:12,345 - Oh my God. - you were on CNN. 1723 01:33:12,379 --> 01:33:13,588 - So I had no idea. 1724 01:33:14,416 --> 01:33:17,143 I get- I had broken a story with Fife Symington 1725 01:33:17,177 --> 01:33:20,353 who was the former Governor of Arizona, okay? 1726 01:33:20,629 --> 01:33:21,941 - And- - The Phoenix Lights. 1727 01:33:21,975 --> 01:33:24,702 - The Phoenix Lights case that he had not only 1728 01:33:24,737 --> 01:33:27,532 that he'd seen it, he did actually investigate it 1729 01:33:27,567 --> 01:33:29,327 and that he felt it was otherworld. 1730 01:33:29,362 --> 01:33:30,535 It was a big story. 1731 01:33:30,570 --> 01:33:35,575 And I was all over the news and we got invited on CNN. 1732 01:33:37,094 --> 01:33:39,614 I think it was the 60th anniversary of Roswell, 1733 01:33:39,648 --> 01:33:40,580 but I'm not positive. 1734 01:33:40,615 --> 01:33:41,408 - Larry King Live. 1735 01:33:41,443 --> 01:33:42,686 - Yeah, Larry King Live. 1736 01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,412 And I see Buzz Aldrin in the green room, 1737 01:33:45,447 --> 01:33:47,311 and I walked outta the green room 1738 01:33:47,345 --> 01:33:48,864 and I turned over to Fife Symington, 1739 01:33:48,899 --> 01:33:49,934 the former Governor of Arizona. 1740 01:33:49,969 --> 01:33:52,696 And I said, man, I can't wait to go. 1741 01:33:52,730 --> 01:33:54,421 This is the first time I've seen him 1742 01:33:54,456 --> 01:33:56,872 since he canceled this interview with me 10 years earlier, 1743 01:33:56,907 --> 01:33:57,942 or whatever it was. 1744 01:33:59,185 --> 01:34:01,912 And really no explanation given I borrowed all this money 1745 01:34:01,946 --> 01:34:04,328 and I know he's had these, 1746 01:34:04,362 --> 01:34:06,917 they're gonna get him out here just debunking everything. 1747 01:34:06,951 --> 01:34:08,988 And Fife says, you know, James, 1748 01:34:09,229 --> 01:34:12,232 that guy's an iconic figure in the United States history. 1749 01:34:12,267 --> 01:34:14,959 I mean, he landed on the Moon with Neil Armstrong. 1750 01:34:14,994 --> 01:34:16,858 You really can't be doing that 1751 01:34:16,892 --> 01:34:20,482 to him on a national live TV show. 1752 01:34:20,516 --> 01:34:22,518 - He might even punch you. 1753 01:34:22,553 --> 01:34:25,694 - But he is a big, he is a very famous, respected, 1754 01:34:25,729 --> 01:34:26,868 - He's a hero. - He's a hero. 1755 01:34:26,902 --> 01:34:28,524 - And so I toned it down 1756 01:34:28,559 --> 01:34:30,078 and then I just watched him, 1757 01:34:31,182 --> 01:34:33,840 basically lie on live television 1758 01:34:34,945 --> 01:34:36,601 - What did I see during the flight? 1759 01:34:36,636 --> 01:34:37,533 - [Larry King] Yeah, you saw- - We saw 1760 01:34:37,568 --> 01:34:41,054 - one of the four panels, the 99.999. 1761 01:34:41,089 --> 01:34:44,092 - Okay, I was told by a very close source of yours 1762 01:34:44,126 --> 01:34:48,406 that you actually saw something other than that. 1763 01:34:49,028 --> 01:34:51,582 - A lot of people have said things that I saw. 1764 01:34:51,616 --> 01:34:53,308 - I don't want to reveal the source. 1765 01:34:53,342 --> 01:34:54,619 - That doesn't mean that I saw. 1766 01:34:54,654 --> 01:34:57,692 [panelists speaking simultaneously] 1767 01:35:00,695 --> 01:35:03,352 [ominous music] 1768 01:35:05,182 --> 01:35:07,011 - In your years of flying, 1769 01:35:07,046 --> 01:35:07,805 - Oh. - As you said, 1770 01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:08,772 you've seen strange things. 1771 01:35:08,806 --> 01:35:12,120 - Well, yeah, I was flying a T33, I guess 1772 01:35:12,154 --> 01:35:14,985 and I looked out and saw a star out there, 1773 01:35:15,917 --> 01:35:17,712 but it wasn't a star, it was Venus. 1774 01:35:17,746 --> 01:35:19,541 But it kept following me all along. 1775 01:35:19,575 --> 01:35:23,614 And you would swear that it's another object out there 1776 01:35:23,648 --> 01:35:24,649 and you can turn. 1777 01:35:24,684 --> 01:35:27,791 And I wanna congratulate you on your magic show 1778 01:35:27,825 --> 01:35:29,689 last night with all the illusions, 1779 01:35:29,724 --> 01:35:33,451 because now we're getting a lot more illusions tonight. 1780 01:35:33,486 --> 01:35:36,006 And can you explain everything that happened 1781 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,698 with Chris Angel last night? - I cannot explain anything. 1782 01:35:38,733 --> 01:35:39,734 - No, you can't. 1783 01:35:39,768 --> 01:35:40,873 - Doesn't make it. 1784 01:35:40,907 --> 01:35:41,977 - [Buzz Aldrin] That's right. 1785 01:35:42,012 --> 01:35:42,875 - Here's what I'm gonna do, folk 1786 01:35:44,083 --> 01:35:44,877 I'm gonna take a break, come back and get the thought. 1787 01:35:44,911 --> 01:35:46,119 - One of my biggest regrets was 1788 01:35:46,154 --> 01:35:48,294 I didn't get Fay Ann Potter on camera to, 1789 01:35:48,328 --> 01:35:50,745 I never thought she would just die so quickly. 1790 01:35:50,779 --> 01:35:52,712 I didn't even know she was sick, you know? 1791 01:35:52,954 --> 01:35:55,370 But Fay Ann Potter told me 1792 01:35:55,404 --> 01:35:58,269 that he had a very dramatic encounter with a flying saucer 1793 01:35:58,304 --> 01:35:59,615 while he chased the disc, 1794 01:35:59,650 --> 01:36:01,583 'cause it is what she said. 1795 01:36:01,617 --> 01:36:03,274 While piloting in a fighter jet. 1796 01:36:03,309 --> 01:36:07,382 And that they were followed by something 1797 01:36:07,416 --> 01:36:09,833 that they were not able to explain to the Moon. 1798 01:36:09,867 --> 01:36:11,800 She did not say he had a sighting on the Moon. 1799 01:36:11,835 --> 01:36:12,836 She didn't tell me that. 1800 01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:14,147 She said on the way to the Moon. 1801 01:36:14,182 --> 01:36:15,010 - Right. 1802 01:36:15,045 --> 01:36:16,046 - Now, what happened on the Moon? 1803 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,979 I have no idea, but that's what she told me. 1804 01:36:18,013 --> 01:36:20,636 - Apollo 11 was purely symbolic. 1805 01:36:20,671 --> 01:36:23,950 It was land on the Moon in the middle of nowhere, 1806 01:36:23,985 --> 01:36:26,435 avoid all this stuff that we're concerned about, 1807 01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:28,541 because there's a whole theory. 1808 01:36:33,201 --> 01:36:34,823 That we can land on the Moon, 1809 01:36:34,858 --> 01:36:36,652 and it was out in the middle of nowhere 1810 01:36:36,687 --> 01:36:37,895 and it was where the stars 1811 01:36:37,930 --> 01:36:40,277 were aligned properly in the Sea of Tranquility 1812 01:36:40,311 --> 01:36:42,831 for Buzz Aldrin to perform his ceremony, 1813 01:36:42,866 --> 01:36:45,661 which consecrated the Moon itself as a Masonic temple, 1814 01:36:45,696 --> 01:36:48,078 and Apollo 11 tranquility base as a Masonic temple. 1815 01:36:48,112 --> 01:36:49,217 That was the purpose. 1816 01:36:49,251 --> 01:36:51,978 All the other missions were salvage missions. 1817 01:36:52,013 --> 01:36:56,051 Let's go land where we think interesting stuff is, 1818 01:36:56,086 --> 01:36:57,915 ancient alien technology, 1819 01:36:57,950 --> 01:37:00,815 call it an anarchy technology if you want to. 1820 01:37:00,849 --> 01:37:02,955 Left behind and bring it back 1821 01:37:02,989 --> 01:37:06,682 and do a Terminator to reverse engineering type thing. 1822 01:37:06,717 --> 01:37:07,994 And I mean, it's pretty clear 1823 01:37:08,029 --> 01:37:10,203 as you look at the photographic record. 1824 01:37:10,238 --> 01:37:11,170 Oh, did they see that? 1825 01:37:11,204 --> 01:37:12,102 Yeah, I'm sure they saw that. 1826 01:37:12,136 --> 01:37:12,930 Did they see this? 1827 01:37:12,965 --> 01:37:13,897 Yeah, I'm sure they saw that. 1828 01:37:13,931 --> 01:37:16,002 I'm sure they realized that's not a rock, 1829 01:37:16,037 --> 01:37:19,143 because they were very well trained in all this stuff. 1830 01:37:19,178 --> 01:37:21,766 [upbeat music] 1831 01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:25,356 - Welcome to Tucker Carlson. 1832 01:37:25,391 --> 01:37:27,393 Today, the crazy thing about the topic of UFOs 1833 01:37:27,427 --> 01:37:30,775 is how when you get into it, how really non-crazy, 1834 01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:32,467 a lot of the people who know a lot 1835 01:37:32,501 --> 01:37:35,056 about the topic turn out to be. 1836 01:37:35,090 --> 01:37:37,713 They're kind of the opposite of what you imagine. 1837 01:37:37,748 --> 01:37:39,474 They're not for conspiracy nuts. 1838 01:37:39,508 --> 01:37:42,442 A lot of them are just scientists. 1839 01:37:42,477 --> 01:37:44,582 Garry Nolan is definitely at the top of that list. 1840 01:37:44,617 --> 01:37:46,964 He's a Harvard, he's a Stanford rather, professor, 1841 01:37:46,999 --> 01:37:49,346 Stanford PhD, an immunologist. 1842 01:37:49,380 --> 01:37:53,177 And he has over the last decade or two, 1843 01:37:53,212 --> 01:37:56,663 spent a lot of time studying the harmful effects 1844 01:37:56,698 --> 01:38:00,909 that apparent encounters with UFOs have on the human brain. 1845 01:38:00,944 --> 01:38:04,464 - So my main job, my day job at Stanford 1846 01:38:04,499 --> 01:38:08,089 for the last 30 years has been 1847 01:38:08,123 --> 01:38:10,781 the development of technologies to look at cancer. 1848 01:38:10,815 --> 01:38:15,820 It was circa 2011 or so when some people from the CIA 1849 01:38:18,064 --> 01:38:20,618 and an aerospace company came to me 1850 01:38:20,653 --> 01:38:24,899 to ask me for their help on the analysis 1851 01:38:24,933 --> 01:38:27,832 of some individuals who had been, 1852 01:38:27,867 --> 01:38:31,181 had encountered some anomalous objects they said. 1853 01:38:31,215 --> 01:38:35,461 And I mean they came to my office unannounced 1854 01:38:35,495 --> 01:38:37,325 and then started laying out pictures 1855 01:38:37,359 --> 01:38:40,535 and data on the table in front of me. 1856 01:38:40,569 --> 01:38:43,331 Then that's a huge operation in the government 1857 01:38:43,365 --> 01:38:44,297 to deal with those. 1858 01:38:44,332 --> 01:38:46,058 In fact, the Senate Intelligence Committee 1859 01:38:46,092 --> 01:38:48,094 just came out with a report this morning 1860 01:38:48,129 --> 01:38:49,820 that has language specifically in it 1861 01:38:49,854 --> 01:38:52,512 to look at the Havana Syndrome cases 1862 01:38:52,547 --> 01:38:53,824 and to understand it. 1863 01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:56,723 Also has interesting, I don't know if you saw it, 1864 01:38:56,758 --> 01:38:58,967 it also has language about UAPs. 1865 01:38:59,002 --> 01:39:03,040 And basically, admonishing the defense department saying, 1866 01:39:03,075 --> 01:39:05,042 you guys have been dragging your feet. 1867 01:39:05,077 --> 01:39:08,494 No, no more, whistleblower language. 1868 01:39:08,528 --> 01:39:10,392 They actually, there was also a situation 1869 01:39:10,427 --> 01:39:13,844 where they wanna go all the way back to 1947, 1870 01:39:13,878 --> 01:39:15,708 collect, they want the, 1871 01:39:15,742 --> 01:39:18,021 all the Defense Department and the CIA, et cetera 1872 01:39:18,055 --> 01:39:20,230 to collect all the information 1873 01:39:20,264 --> 01:39:23,647 around events that have occurred. 1874 01:39:23,681 --> 01:39:25,338 They want all of, interestingly, 1875 01:39:25,373 --> 01:39:28,376 the NDAs, the non-disclosure agreements, 1876 01:39:28,410 --> 01:39:29,618 they want those all listed, 1877 01:39:29,653 --> 01:39:32,483 because the NDAs are associated to people. 1878 01:39:32,518 --> 01:39:33,588 And that means they can start 1879 01:39:33,622 --> 01:39:35,797 to name the people who have been involved. 1880 01:39:35,831 --> 01:39:38,834 They want all of the information on the disinformation 1881 01:39:38,869 --> 01:39:41,458 and the obfuscation that's been going on. 1882 01:39:41,492 --> 01:39:43,218 And they want information about 1883 01:39:43,253 --> 01:39:45,876 the medical harms that have occurred. 1884 01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:48,396 - If we look at this Tucker Carlson interview 1885 01:39:48,430 --> 01:39:52,055 that happened with the Stanford University professor, 1886 01:39:52,089 --> 01:39:56,473 it gives one hope about the disclosure and this movement 1887 01:39:56,507 --> 01:39:59,062 in which we might get in the mainstream media. 1888 01:39:59,096 --> 01:40:02,651 The fact that we're not alone sometime in the future. 1889 01:40:02,686 --> 01:40:06,172 These congressional hearings in which experiencers 1890 01:40:06,207 --> 01:40:10,038 are going to testify before Congress. 1891 01:40:10,073 --> 01:40:14,594 Experiencers being people that were witness to UFOs 1892 01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:17,114 and actually were physically affected 1893 01:40:17,149 --> 01:40:19,737 by their proximity to these UFOs. 1894 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,362 Now, these experiencers are important, 1895 01:40:23,396 --> 01:40:25,295 but it pains me to think that 1896 01:40:26,675 --> 01:40:30,300 important whistleblowers like Karl Wolfe 1897 01:40:31,853 --> 01:40:35,477 are no longer around to also take part 1898 01:40:35,512 --> 01:40:37,893 in these congressional hearings. 1899 01:40:37,928 --> 01:40:41,104 Karl Wolfe passed away in 2018. 1900 01:40:42,415 --> 01:40:45,246 Just like John Mack was hit by a car, 1901 01:40:46,143 --> 01:40:48,421 and this tragically ended his life. 1902 01:40:49,284 --> 01:40:53,392 In 2018, Karl Wolfe was also hit by a car 1903 01:40:53,426 --> 01:40:55,670 when he was on his bike. 1904 01:40:55,704 --> 01:40:59,915 And this is a very unfortunate loss. 1905 01:40:59,950 --> 01:41:02,159 His family mourns his loss, 1906 01:41:02,194 --> 01:41:05,956 as does the UFO research community. 1907 01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:09,270 - Well, let's say we know all of these implications, 1908 01:41:09,304 --> 01:41:14,033 and let's say it's 1960 1909 01:41:14,068 --> 01:41:18,106 and we know some of these things, right? 1910 01:41:18,141 --> 01:41:19,935 Well, you think of the world back then. 1911 01:41:19,970 --> 01:41:21,627 The world of 1960, 1912 01:41:21,661 --> 01:41:25,631 no way would that world be ready 1913 01:41:25,665 --> 01:41:28,772 for some of the intellectual realities 1914 01:41:28,806 --> 01:41:30,601 of what we think we know now. 1915 01:41:30,636 --> 01:41:32,638 Because actually our knowledge of this subject 1916 01:41:32,672 --> 01:41:37,643 has gone way deeper in our era than it ever was in the past. 1917 01:41:38,299 --> 01:41:40,370 In the past, they're thinking like 1918 01:41:40,404 --> 01:41:41,992 the day the Earth stood still, 1919 01:41:42,026 --> 01:41:45,720 you know, men, maybe some women in space suits 1920 01:41:45,754 --> 01:41:49,344 from another world in their metal spaceships 1921 01:41:49,379 --> 01:41:50,897 have just arrived. 1922 01:41:50,932 --> 01:41:52,968 And you know, that whole thing. 1923 01:41:53,003 --> 01:41:55,178 And that's how people were talking back in the fifties. 1924 01:41:55,212 --> 01:41:56,455 That's what they thought. 1925 01:41:56,489 --> 01:41:58,181 Or at least some of them were thinking along these lines. 1926 01:41:58,215 --> 01:42:03,186 And that's clearly not like we're well past that, 1927 01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:05,360 whatever the reality of this is, 1928 01:42:05,395 --> 01:42:09,571 this phenomenon signifies a reality that is mind bending. 1929 01:42:10,814 --> 01:42:12,436 That we're gonna have to make some adjustments. 1930 01:42:12,471 --> 01:42:17,165 So let's say back in 1960, we've got some inkling of this. 1931 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:18,960 And we have to ask ourselves, 1932 01:42:18,994 --> 01:42:21,859 what the hell do we do with this information? 1933 01:42:21,894 --> 01:42:26,899 And how could we ever get the public up to speed on this? 1934 01:42:28,142 --> 01:42:30,385 And if we were to really think seriously about that, 1935 01:42:30,420 --> 01:42:35,114 we would realize this will take generations. 1936 01:42:35,149 --> 01:42:36,529 This cannot happen right away. 1937 01:42:36,564 --> 01:42:38,013 There's no way. 1938 01:42:38,048 --> 01:42:39,222 No way. 1939 01:42:39,256 --> 01:42:42,190 - I don't think it's gonna come as a surprise to folks 1940 01:42:42,225 --> 01:42:44,882 that have been following us on this journey 1941 01:42:44,917 --> 01:42:49,784 that Apollo 12 has many of the examples of anomalies, 1942 01:42:49,818 --> 01:42:53,305 structures on the Moon and UFOs 1943 01:42:53,339 --> 01:42:56,480 that we will also see in later Moon missions. 1944 01:42:57,585 --> 01:43:00,243 [ominous music] 1945 01:43:12,151 --> 01:43:14,912 [dramatic music] 1946 01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,715 [dramatic music continues] 1947 01:43:31,343 --> 01:43:34,932 [dramatic music continues] 1948 01:43:41,387 --> 01:43:44,977 [dramatic music continues] 1949 01:43:51,466 --> 01:43:55,090 [dramatic music continues] 1950 01:44:01,614 --> 01:44:05,204 [dramatic music continues] 1951 01:44:11,521 --> 01:44:15,145 [dramatic music continues] 1952 01:44:21,531 --> 01:44:25,155 [dramatic music continues] 1953 01:44:31,334 --> 01:44:34,923 [dramatic music continues]