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The old phrase,
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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,"
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is false. That is not true.
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There is, no doubt,
a correct-shaped human face,
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like there is with every other animal.
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You know, cows all look the same.
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Sheep all look the same.
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Humans should all look the same,
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but they don't.
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They vary hugely.
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And sometimes
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the shape of the face is appealing,
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and sometimes, shall we say, less so.
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What worries me is the fact
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that most people are severely deformed.
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It's a terrible thing to say,
but it's really true.
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Everybody is programmed
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to have the same type of face.
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Have you ever
taken a boat ride or a raft?
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Yeah.
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But the development
of our face has gone wrong.
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Pump, pump, pump.
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We are no longer very beautiful.
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What was the worst part of the treatment?
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My job is to create
beautiful faces.
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And anything you can do
to make the face better
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is the right thing.
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Was it as bad as you thought it would be?
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I thought the treatment
would be a lot worse.
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People say, "John,
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you create the best faces in the world."
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- Seashells on the...
- Seashore.
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- Brother.
- Brother.
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The problem is,
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I'm too far ahead of everybody else.
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Okay, now get the head back.
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Open nice and wide.
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Open a bit wider.
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Okay, cool. And then bite together.
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I actually stopped talking
about what I did
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at dinner parties,
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because I'd go to a dinner party.
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The normal thing happens.
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Everyone says, "Oh, what do you do?"
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And I go, "I'm--I'm-- I'm an orthodontist,
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but one of the most controversial."
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I spent my entire life
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with this knowledge in my brain
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that no one else seems to see.
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You know, look at the car crash,
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the slow motion car crash
that's happened to you.
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Do you not see it?
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Modern orthodontics,
particularly fixed braces,
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you're not affecting
the cause of the problem.
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Actually, often,
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you're making the underlying
situation worse.
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People don't like to change.
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We're comfortable in the skin we're in.
And I need to get people to change.
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At this point,
if you remember from last time,
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I always make them
look a little bit jaw-y.
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So the jaw, physically,
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should be slightly
further ahead of the top jaw.
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'Cause this area here,
as he starts building his muscles up,
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he's gonna lift this jaw up,
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and this area is gonna go...
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Out like that. Kay?
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So if we get him here, up like that,
and we achieve that
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in a sort of more harmonious structure,
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well, he'll have had,
I believe, to my knowledge,
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one of the best facial
outcomes yet achieved.
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I've got this ability, I know,
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to transform lives immensely,
beyond reason.
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Children that look like this
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don't have the same lives,
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either health-wise
or integrating with society
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and their peers, as people like this.
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It has been really, really hard work.
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But we've only just got going.
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- Monday.
- Monday.
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- Tuesday.
- Tuesday.
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- Wednesday.
- Wednesday.
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Now I start to need to change you.
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Now, we change you with an appliance
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that's got fangs on it like this, okay?
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If she drops her jaw down,
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the appliance engages
underneath the mandible,
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and that will remind her
to keep her mouth closed,
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building up this Pavlovian
feedback response.
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And that's what we want.
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Life is full of surprises.
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The fact that the internet got me famous
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is one of those things, I guess.
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This term mewing, the whole mewing thing
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has been an absolute gift to me.
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It's a godsend. It's named after me.
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My surname has become a verb now.
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It's a massively used term.
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Someone pointed out to me recently
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that the hashtag #mewing has been seen
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over a billion times on TikTok.
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That blows me away.
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I stagger. How am I in this place?
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I mean, how did I get here?
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Right.
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I'm gonna kind of stick
my legs out there a little.
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Well, get your feet in.
You could pull the chair.
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Well, I think they've now set up on us.
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- So the last--
- Are our heads close enough together?
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I have abs-- I'm sure they'll give us
some instructions.
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They will.
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You look to be
quite a way away, that's all.
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Yeah. Well, I'm waiting for instruction.
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- So...
- Right.
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I really think it's gonna be
a nice, sunny day today.
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Excuse me.
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Don't feel shy about--
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- May we begin?
- Yes.
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So what's it like
to be a father/son team?
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I'd never thought about it.
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- What do you--
- I don't see myself as a team.
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I see myself as a chap
who likes orthodontics
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with a son who's interested
in orthodontics.
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Yeah. Yes, you see, you are an individual.
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- Oh.
- Yeah.
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You're not the best
team player in the world.
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- Well, probably not.
- No, no.
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I don't think we work together.
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There we go.
I think that about sums it up.
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- Well, no.
- I've been trying for years
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to get him to work with me,
but he does his own thing.
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I've never-- Don't think
I've ever had a different thought.
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At the age of 16,
I had a little black book,
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only about that big.
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♪Whenever I had significant thoughts,
I would note them down.
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And so I spent most of my life puzzling
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on the reason for this or that or center.
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I was not a good student.
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I regularly failed my exams.
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And I really don't think
I'm at all clever.
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Quite stupid, in fact.
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But interestingly, I had this ability to--
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I think they call it lateral thinking.
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Therefore, I was always
coming up with ideas
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which were entirely different
than everyone else's.
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Traditional truths are not always correct.
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I think I see myself as a rebel.
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Once you've come up with the answer,
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you know it's right.
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And of course, that's my problem now.
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I know I'm right.
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The orthodontists are
absolutely sure I'm wrong.
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Could you sit up a little for me?
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Oh, so sorry, yes.
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- I keep slithering down.
- No, no, not at all.
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I'm-- Remember my age, son.
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A delicate subject
to talk about other people,
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particularly about their faces.
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So one does need to tread carefully.
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But if you walk down the street,
you'll find a huge number of people
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who just have flat faces.
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Now, most people think,
"Well, I've just got a flat face."
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But there's a reason for that.
There's a reason for everything.
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I spent most of my life
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studying faces.
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I decided I wanted to be a dentist
way back, before I was ten.
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My father, he was an orthodontist,
so obviously enjoyed it,
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that it seemed natural
for me to do the same thing.
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I started off
very much part of the establishment.
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But I was unhappy with the effect
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of orthodontic treatment on youngsters.
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They were purely mechanical cures.
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They would say, "Look,
these teeth are all there.
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We'll fix it."
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And the dentists found that if they fitted
a plate with bits of wire on it,
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they could line the teeth up.
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Fix the palate, see.
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See, my belief are
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they're doing more harm than good.
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The whole orthodontic scene is a scandal.
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Most orthodontic treatment flattens faces.
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In reality, it pulls them back,
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which is the exact opposite
of what you want.
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It's a bit like taking a cardboard box.
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If you push it in,
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it kinks and cracks and twists.
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Well, the face is just the same.
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If it's pushed back at one end,
it kinks like this.
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It's better to try and lodge the jaws
to take the whole lot forward,
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which also provides room for the teeth.
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My dear wife, Jo, and I
were treated traditionally.
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We both have narrow faces
and crowded teeth.
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I really wanted to bring my children up
without traditional orthodontic methods.
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And so I thought I'd design
an appliance to do that.
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I don't know if you've done much,
what they say, "DIY,"
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do it yourself, but it's very convenient
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to be able to experiment on your children.
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Most people do it socially,
but I also did it medically.
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William, my older one,
I was just forming these ideas.
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It wasn't effective, and as a result,
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has never had good facial development.
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But Michael was the next one in line.
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You can see that his face
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is totally different from mine.
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It was mainly that
I was just clever about him.
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-And Rosarie...
- Hey.
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His younger sister,
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I think even cleverer still, you know.
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You do get a bit better in life with luck.
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As the eldest, I was the first guinea pig.
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And therefore, some of
the contraptions I wore
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were possibly a little bit more crude.
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I remember Bill being
taped up to this headgear
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that an alarm used to go off
if his mouth fell open.
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Well, initially, they hadn't
got the alarm quite right,
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so before he reali--
there was something underneath
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with a sharp object there.
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If my jaw dropped, it would be--
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I would describe it as uncomfortable.
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Poor William.
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He wore that very well
and never complained.
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None of them complained.
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We were fair game for experimentation.
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Oh, I'm sure that he'd be done now,
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for the amount of experimenting
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that he did on us.
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One of his experiments was to see
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what would happen to facial development
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if someone didn't chew.
So if someone just swallowed
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and just did, like, baby food
for the first three years--
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two, maybe three years.
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Let's be generous.
There was only two and half years.
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Pretending it was breastfeeding,
as if you were breastfeeding.
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Yes.
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We used to breastfeed children
for two to three years.
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We now do it for less than six months.
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It is one of the biggest lifestyle changes
that we've made in the human race.
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And I'm sure it's the main reason
why there are so many ugly people around.
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Everyone would have their Sunday dinner,
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and mine would have gone
through the Magimix.
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And I'd be given this bottle,
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and I just thought
it was completely normal
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that I had, as Dad always talks about,
one of the largest malocclusions ever.
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- Yes.
- Because I had
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- It was a disaster.
- this tiny, tiny little jaw
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because I hadn't chewed.
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So he wrote lots of research papers.
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And I think my mother, I was about three,
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and sort of said,
"Right, we're going to start
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giving her ordinary food now.
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So then he was very excited.
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But then he started putting a brace in me.
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And he created the largest expansion
that he'd ever done on anyone before,
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because I went from this very,
very crowded malocclused...
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- Is that the right word?
- Malocclusion, yeah.
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...place to quite a big jaw,
as I have now, so...
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So he created the problem and--
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- Well, he didn't mean
- And then fixed it.
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to create the problem.
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My daughter, Rosarie,
has a very good-looking face.
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I mean, she's--
I hate to think how old now.
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She must be in her late 50s.
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No, she'd probably be horrified.
No, I think, late 40s, perhaps.
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Not very good on ages.
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Anyway, but she's got
lovely bone formation.
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I experimented on my children,
and it worked.
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I'm sure I should be put
in prison for that.
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The human, when brought up naturally,
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has no dental problems.
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If a parent asks me,
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"John, what's the best way I can do
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to look after my children
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and make sure
that they grow up correctly?"
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I will say this simply.
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"Sell your house,
buy a cave in the top of a mountain,
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and don't cook any of your food,"
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and I think that's
a very good prescription.
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John has created an island for himself.
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And in that island, I think I'm there.
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I think Mike's there.
282
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And it gets a bit hazy after that.
283
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My journey to orthotropics
has not been a straight line.
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I was studying conventional orthodontics,
285
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and I came across John's philosophy.
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I have been trained through John,
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and I follow John's technique
very closely.
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One of the things that he answered for me
was why there is malocclusion,
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which is when the teeth
end up out of alignment
290
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and they grow crooked.
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Human beings, we've always had jaws
and teeth that are fairly evenly balanced
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and fairly straight.
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In the last 300 years,
that has really shifted.
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We live in a world today
where no one has straight teeth.
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And so how do we go from
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tens and tens and tens
of thousands of years
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where everything was perfect
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to one where every kid needs
some form of braces
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to get the teeth straight?
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We're taught that genetics
plays the primary role
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in jaw development,
and John's thought was,
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it's not possible
for genetics to be so precise,
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for everything to line up perfectly
without any environmental influence.
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- Have you got fingerprint?
- No.
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I've just got the facial recognition.
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Look at the phone. Nothing's happening.
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Put it close to your face.
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Did it open?
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No, it doesn't recognize me.
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But I bet you get voice recognition.
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- See, it opened.
- Yeah, that's interesting.
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Yeah, see, he's altered her jaw,
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so I now can't get into her phone.
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Yeah.
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I didn't know it wasn't
traditional, you know, orthodontistry.
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I thought I was getting
orthodontic treatment.
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I had no idea that...
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that I was one of the first people
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that he was going to try
this procedure on.
320
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We grew up on a farm.
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His surgery was a long way,
and it was down country lanes.
322
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We had a working class background.
He was a private dentist.
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So he was a different strata to us.
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We were always the twinnies, the twins.
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She's twinny, I'm twinny.
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We're absolutely identical.
327
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Not so much now,
but we used to be totally identical,
328
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couldn't tell us apart.
329
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- I mean, we were just...
- Joined at the hip.
330
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- Yes.
- Apart from the teeth.
331
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I was really conscious of my teeth.
332
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We both sucked our finger and thumb
from when we were little girls
333
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until probably early teens.
334
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Like that.
335
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I had, you know, an overbite.
336
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I remember being teased on the bus,
337
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and, you know, I used to get called Lucky
338
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'cause I had this big gap
in the middle of my teeth.
339
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I used to be able to get a penny in.
340
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So I never used to smile much,
and I was very conscious of my mouth.
341
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- But you did smile, but you did this.
- All the time.
342
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Like, I would always be like this
in the photographs.
343
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We used to babysit for Dr. Mew,
344
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and I can't remember how it came up
345
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that he wanted to do
a treatment on my teeth.
346
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Well, he only took one look at you
and realized you needed something doing.
347
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Thank you. Yes, anyway.
348
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You would have been a perfect patient,
of course, 'cause you had a control.
349
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Exactly, you're my control,
350
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which is probably why
we got the free dentistry.
351
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- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
352
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That's exactly why.
353
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- That is why?
- Mm-hmm.
354
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- You owe it all to me, Moi.
- Ha, there you go.
355
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When you want to do good research,
356
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no doubt, twins is the best way.
357
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If you take a pair of twins and treat one
358
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with one method
and one with another method,
359
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you're going to get a very clear message,
360
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because when you're treating twins,
they're both the same.
361
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I had an appliance.
362
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And it was called the Biobloc.
363
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It was like a medieval torture instrument.
364
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And I had to sleep with my bottom teeth
365
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pulled out to almost
in front of my top teeth,
366
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which isn't pleasant.
But I had great confidence in him
367
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because he was so confident.
368
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And I would do whatever it took
to finish that treatment,
369
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which is what I did.
370
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My mouth did change.
371
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I mean, the gap in the front of my teeth
wasn't there anymore.
372
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I felt far more confident about smiling.
373
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So it was wonderful for me.
374
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You know, it was the best thing
I could ever have done.
375
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I'd probably still be living
at Heart Lake farm
376
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if I hadn't had it done,
married with five children.
377
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Okay, stop.
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They became the first
of a series of six twins
379
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who had had different treatment.
380
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Elise, the twin
on the right in this picture
381
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who does not need treatment,
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has a larger and more pragmatic face.
383
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Probably because of this,
384
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her face looks more mature
than that of her sister.
385
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Because I really wanted
to know the truth myself.
386
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I didn't know if orthotropics
was better or worse.
387
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I could then compare them,
388
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and I was flabbergasted.
389
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I said, "Eureka! That's obviously it."
390
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And that was when I really produced
391
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the label "orthotropics,"
which means correct growth.
392
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All plants are guided by tropisms,
393
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where they will grow towards the light.
394
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So growth is a tropism.
395
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Plants grow, and in a way, so do faces.
396
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What orthotropics is about
397
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is redirecting the course of growth.
398
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It's very easy to start,
terribly difficult to finish.
399
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Initially, you're making room for teeth.
400
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It's a very spectacular,
very appealing period.
401
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The next phase of orthotropics
402
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is where we develop the individual jaws
403
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to be the incorrect shape.
404
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And what tends to happen
is parents then say,
405
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"This doctor has no idea
what they're doing,
406
00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:55.665
and it is infinitely worse
than when we first started."
407
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And then they will take them
to find a second opinion.
408
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And they will say, "What has this man,
what has this woman done to your child?
409
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They've wrecked your child."
410
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The problem with orthotropics
is it looks good,
411
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then it looks terrible,
412
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and that lasts four years.
413
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And then finally at the end of it,
it looks great.
414
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Right, I let people know,
"This is a double black diamond."
415
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If we travel here, you have to trust,
416
00:23:28.949 --> 00:23:32.744
in the end, you'll end up
in a fantastic place.
417
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We are training children
418
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to work at a level
419
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which is beyond what
we would normally expect.
420
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Come take a seat.
421
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The level of physical discipline
422
00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:51.263 line:5%
requires a commitment
that is not common today.
423
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You have to train not only the children,
424
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but their guardians, the parents.
425
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Why was it you came
for treatment, actually?
426
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Because I felt that recently,
Lisa's lower jaw was receding more.
427
00:24:04.568 --> 00:24:07.529 line:5%
We are talking
specifically about posture.
428
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You cannot develop straight teeth
if you have bad oral posture.
429
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How much do you hope
that this can be improved?
430
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Well, I hope that her jawline
would look more normal
431
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and that cosmetically
432
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it would improve the outline
of her face and her jaw.
433
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In orthotropics, we have appliances
434
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that have a penalty nature to them.
435
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This is your stage three appliance, Lisa,
436
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and it's intended that it will be sore
if you drop the jaw down.
437
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When John developed orthotropics,
438
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he developed it in a world
439
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where there were physical penalties
and punishments
440
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when you didn't behave.
441
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You know, I was smacked as a child.
I was smacked at school.
442
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Six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
443
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That's very good, indeed. Well done.
444
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One of the things about human beings
445
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is physical reminders trump
verbal nagging.
446
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And that's how we change habits.
447
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Those years that I went through treatment,
448
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from the age, I think,
eight or nine through to 12.
449
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And my brother had to go down
the traditional route
450
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as a control.
451
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And obviously, for John Mew,
the ability then to do that comparison,
452
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compare and contrast.
453
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The experience I had, it was quite brutal.
454
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When I look back at it, I look back
and think it was just natural.
455
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It was just part
of what I was going through.
456
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And everybody else was going through it,
if they have orthodontistry.
457
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But I now know that wasn't the case.
458
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So...
459
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Yeah, we as children
didn't really question why.
460
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If he convinces the parent
that this is the right thing,
461
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then the parents can be the overseer
462
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and govern that the child does
what they're supposed to do,
463
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um, which is kind of what happened.
464
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- Your mom was overseeing?
- Yeah. Yeah.
465
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She was supervising,
wasn't she?
466
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Oh, you'd like to-- That's wonderful.
467
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We're talking about parents and children.
468
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Come on in. We'll figure it out.
469
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- Yeah.
- What do you want to say?
470
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Thank you for joining us.
471
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I know this may seem--
472
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Do you want to sit here?
473
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- I could sit on the--
- Is that okay?
474
00:26:22.539 --> 00:26:25.583 line:5%
Yeah, yeah. No, that's it. Just...
475
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- Why don't you sit here?
- I just wanted to mention
476
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when you were talking about
the responsibility with the parents,
477
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um, it came to the stage
where Quentin's teeth
478
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were so far out and his jaw so far back,
479
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he couldn't possibly
have been left like that.
480
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I had horrors that John Mew
would drop down dead
481
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and he'd be like, "Ah, ah, ah."
482
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Yeah, so I couldn't really say,
483
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you know, "This is too much,"
because we were in it too deep.
484
00:26:58.700 --> 00:27:01.995
But it was quite scary. It really was.
485
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Ooh. Yeah.
486
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So really, you're very lucky.
487
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Well, it could have all gone
horribly wrong.
488
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- Yeah.
- Yeah, true.
489
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Could have been left with just the top.
490
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What's happened to their faces?
491
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Well, you can see that Ben's face
492
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is slightly flatter and slightly longer,
493
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whereas Quentin has more forward growth,
494
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which I think perhaps gives
him a slightly better profile.
495
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Twin studies, does that ring a bell?
496
00:27:28.730 --> 00:27:34.235 line:5%
John Mew actually doing a study on twins
doesn't exist.
497
00:27:34.235 --> 00:27:36.571 line:5%
He worked with six sets of twins.
498
00:27:36.571 --> 00:27:40.283
Yes? Six sets of twins or six--
499
00:27:40.283 --> 00:27:41.826
Yes, that's 12 people.
500
00:27:41.826 --> 00:27:47.415
Twelve patients does not
a study make, ever.
501
00:27:49.751 --> 00:27:54.589
I used to be an academic orthodontist,
and I started my career in London,
502
00:27:54.589 --> 00:27:56.674
which is actually where I met John Mew.
503
00:27:56.674 --> 00:28:00.136
I've known John Mew since the '60s.
504
00:28:00.136 --> 00:28:02.806
My first interaction with Dr. Mew--
505
00:28:02.806 --> 00:28:05.725
why do I call him Dr. Mew? Mr. Mew--
506
00:28:05.725 --> 00:28:09.229
was when I was at the London
Hospital Medical School.
507
00:28:09.229 --> 00:28:11.398
I was in charge
of the orthodontic department.
508
00:28:14.442 --> 00:28:17.362
And one of my jobs
was to evaluate submissions
509
00:28:17.362 --> 00:28:19.989
for an essay competition.
510
00:28:19.989 --> 00:28:22.617
Mew put in his submission.
511
00:28:22.617 --> 00:28:27.163
It was just as bad as everything else
he's written since.
512
00:28:27.163 --> 00:28:30.291
Uh, fanciful, no science, no nothing.
513
00:28:33.420 --> 00:28:36.047
I remember it
because it was a curious submission.
514
00:28:36.047 --> 00:28:40.552
It had two illustrations,
and there were two fish tanks
515
00:28:40.552 --> 00:28:43.471
with a bunch of trout in one of them
516
00:28:43.471 --> 00:28:46.558
and no trout in the other, okay?
517
00:28:46.558 --> 00:28:50.728
And the caption had something
to do with the fact that,
518
00:28:50.728 --> 00:28:56.359
please observe how the trout's
snout anatomy changed
519
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.779
because they were pressing
their face against the glass
520
00:28:59.779 --> 00:29:01.406
of the fish tank.
521
00:29:01.406 --> 00:29:03.867
And so that was his argument,
522
00:29:03.867 --> 00:29:08.288
which I had to reject,
because it had no science in it.
523
00:29:08.288 --> 00:29:10.290
So the next thing I know
is he telephoned me
524
00:29:10.290 --> 00:29:13.418
and wanted to come and see me
at the London Hospital.
525
00:29:13.418 --> 00:29:19.215
And he accused me
of suppressing his reality and his truth
526
00:29:19.215 --> 00:29:23.011
because I disagreed with his premises.
527
00:29:23.011 --> 00:29:26.139
I said, I don't disagree
with your premise.
528
00:29:26.139 --> 00:29:28.850
I just disagree with crappy science.
529
00:29:28.850 --> 00:29:34.189
I don't care who you are, you know?
He didn't like to hear that either.
530
00:29:42.530 --> 00:29:47.535
It's never easy to change
people's ideas, so I tried.
531
00:29:47.535 --> 00:29:50.038
I wrote papers. I gave meetings.
532
00:29:50.038 --> 00:29:53.583
I gave lectures.
I had long chats with people.
533
00:29:53.583 --> 00:29:56.961
I'd pull people into a corner
and browbeat them.
534
00:29:56.961 --> 00:29:59.339
You know, the usual things.
535
00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:02.509
I was just hoping to reason with people
536
00:30:02.509 --> 00:30:05.845
and they'd see the truth
or the light, as I might say.
537
00:30:10.809 --> 00:30:12.685
It's what every parent
wants for their child,
538
00:30:12.685 --> 00:30:14.812
a perfect smile.
539
00:30:14.812 --> 00:30:17.690
But does that smile mask a hidden danger?
540
00:30:21.152 --> 00:30:22.821
I didn't push it
541
00:30:22.821 --> 00:30:26.407
until a program called Dispatches.
542
00:30:29.702 --> 00:30:31.955
If my views were accepted,
543
00:30:31.955 --> 00:30:34.958
orthodontics would
have to change dramatically.
544
00:30:34.958 --> 00:30:39.254
And indeed, many people would either
have to change the way they worked
545
00:30:39.254 --> 00:30:41.589
or give up doing orthodontics.
546
00:30:43.925 --> 00:30:48.263
But there's a clear comparison between us
as twins in favor
547
00:30:48.263 --> 00:30:50.431
of the orthodontistry method
of Dr. Mew's, right?
548
00:30:50.431 --> 00:30:51.808
And how do you feel about that?
549
00:30:51.808 --> 00:30:55.395
In hindsight, I would have preferred
to gone with Mr. Mew's method.
550
00:30:55.395 --> 00:30:58.439
That was on national television.
551
00:30:58.439 --> 00:31:01.693
And the next day, every single one
552
00:31:01.693 --> 00:31:04.946
of the English national dailies
553
00:31:04.946 --> 00:31:09.909
had half or full-page articles
on what I'd said.
554
00:31:09.909 --> 00:31:15.748
The orthodontists all thought
that I behaved absolutely appallingly.
555
00:31:15.748 --> 00:31:19.377
Essentially, I had been
a traitor to the cause.
556
00:31:20.628 --> 00:31:23.256
And they said,
"You'll shatter people's faith
557
00:31:23.256 --> 00:31:26.134
and make them think
orthodontics is no good,"
558
00:31:26.134 --> 00:31:29.262
which, in a way, was what I was trying
to tell them anyway.
559
00:31:29.262 --> 00:31:30.972
From then on,
560
00:31:30.972 --> 00:31:34.434
I was always in conflict
with orthodontics.
561
00:31:34.434 --> 00:31:37.604
There was really no option, was there?
562
00:31:41.399 --> 00:31:44.861
A leading London dentist claims
current orthodontic methods
563
00:31:44.861 --> 00:31:47.906
sometimes straighten the teeth,
but they then ruin the face.
564
00:31:47.906 --> 00:31:51.284
That's at the center of a bitter row
in the world of orthodontics.
565
00:31:51.284 --> 00:31:54.287
Can you see the two
sharp spikes on that plate?
566
00:31:54.287 --> 00:31:56.581
Well, I got very angry. I looked at it.
567
00:31:56.581 --> 00:32:00.126
I could not believe someone
could put that in a child's mouth.
568
00:32:00.126 --> 00:32:03.046
I'm accusing all the people
who treat your way
569
00:32:03.046 --> 00:32:06.424
of ripping off the parents.
And it's child abuse.
570
00:32:06.424 --> 00:32:10.720
I provide them appliance
which is designed to hurt
571
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.472
if the child drops their jaw.
572
00:32:12.472 --> 00:32:16.267
You might call that child abuse.
I would call it training.
573
00:32:16.267 --> 00:32:17.226
That's crap.
574
00:32:19.354 --> 00:32:23.566
The establishment were initially hoping
that when he reached
575
00:32:23.566 --> 00:32:28.321
sort of the age of 60 or something,
he would either retire or sort of mellow.
576
00:32:28.321 --> 00:32:30.782
Um, if anything,
the opposite has happened.
577
00:32:30.782 --> 00:32:34.869
He was still poking the beast
year after year after year.
578
00:32:34.869 --> 00:32:37.830
I've even been threatened
with assault at meetings.
579
00:32:37.830 --> 00:32:41.626
People hate me with a depth
that's really quite surprising.
580
00:32:42.460 --> 00:32:45.964
I even went to the length
of marching up and down
581
00:32:45.964 --> 00:32:52.595
the principal medical area in London
with a big sandwich board
582
00:32:52.595 --> 00:32:56.391
saying what I thought about orthodontics.
583
00:32:56.391 --> 00:32:58.434
It was words to the effect
584
00:32:58.434 --> 00:33:03.314
that orthodontics damages faces,
which is true.
585
00:33:07.402 --> 00:33:12.782
On the cover of your book,
you have the Galileo quote.
586
00:33:12.782 --> 00:33:15.660
Oh, yeah, "Eppur si muove."
587
00:33:15.660 --> 00:33:19.414
Galileo said that in a loud whisper...
588
00:33:22.166 --> 00:33:24.794
...as he turned his back on the Pope.
589
00:33:24.794 --> 00:33:27.338
And he very nearly lost his life for that.
590
00:33:27.338 --> 00:33:31.467
Essentially, he was talking
about the world and the sun.
591
00:33:31.467 --> 00:33:33.845
He was saying the world moves.
592
00:33:33.845 --> 00:33:37.598
And I put the same phrase
in relation to the jaws.
593
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:45.523
Of course, the orthodontists
didn't quite see that.
594
00:33:45.523 --> 00:33:50.945
They saw it that I was treating patients
in an improper way.
595
00:33:50.945 --> 00:33:55.366
So the orthodontists approached
the General Dental Council,
596
00:33:55.366 --> 00:34:00.371
the authority which grants
licenses in England,
597
00:34:00.371 --> 00:34:02.874
and said, "Look, this man's
doing the wrong thing.
598
00:34:02.874 --> 00:34:04.667
We've got to stop him."
599
00:34:04.667 --> 00:34:06.502
So three years ago,
600
00:34:06.502 --> 00:34:10.423
I had my license
to practice dentistry removed.
601
00:34:12.216 --> 00:34:14.427
They really felt
they needed to strike him off
602
00:34:14.427 --> 00:34:17.013
in order to try and besmirch him.
603
00:34:17.013 --> 00:34:20.099
But I think possibly
the biggest shock in store
604
00:34:20.099 --> 00:34:22.852
was that there simply wasn't just one Mew.
605
00:34:22.852 --> 00:34:25.396
There's--there's another one
following in his footsteps.
606
00:34:32.737 --> 00:34:33.905
Mike, specifically,
607
00:34:33.905 --> 00:34:36.741
has taken over the family business.
608
00:34:36.741 --> 00:34:38.326
- The mantle.
- The mantle.
609
00:34:38.326 --> 00:34:39.368
The mantle, as Mom would say.
610
00:34:39.368 --> 00:34:41.954
I would say--I would say
the sort of noose around the neck.
611
00:34:44.457 --> 00:34:46.959
- I love that.
- He's taken on that big challenge.
612
00:34:50.797 --> 00:34:54.759
You know, you used to have,
the plowman would do what his father did.
613
00:34:54.759 --> 00:34:57.136
You know, the plowman's son
would become a plowman.
614
00:34:57.136 --> 00:34:59.305
And that became your universe.
615
00:34:59.305 --> 00:35:03.101
And in a way, what my father
did became my universe.
616
00:35:03.101 --> 00:35:05.228
And it was at a very young age,
617
00:35:05.228 --> 00:35:06.979
I decided I was gonna do this.
618
00:35:08.856 --> 00:35:11.901
Michael turned to me and said, "Rosie,
619
00:35:11.901 --> 00:35:14.487
I think I might slowly
be turning into Dad."
620
00:35:14.487 --> 00:35:17.782
And I said, "What do you mean,
'turning into'?
621
00:35:17.782 --> 00:35:20.159
You've been there
for about ten years already."
622
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:21.577
- There's been a Mini-Me.
- Mini-Me.
623
00:35:21.577 --> 00:35:23.955
There's been a Mini-Me
following in Dad's footsteps.
624
00:35:26.207 --> 00:35:29.585
He's not your average father.
625
00:35:32.463 --> 00:35:34.882
Few people have fathers like I do.
626
00:35:34.882 --> 00:35:39.470
You know, he is just a--
you know, he's an inspiration.
627
00:35:44.517 --> 00:35:45.601
Bye.
628
00:35:48.688 --> 00:35:52.483
Seeing my father being
attacked and criticized
629
00:35:52.483 --> 00:35:56.863
has been one of the things
that's driven me forwards.
630
00:35:56.863 --> 00:36:00.825
It just makes your blood boil...
631
00:36:02.994 --> 00:36:07.123
'cause I've seen my father
just be destroyed.
632
00:36:07.123 --> 00:36:10.543
Reverse, reverse, reverse.
Full throttle. Full throttle.
633
00:36:15.047 --> 00:36:18.509
I didn't think that
I could study orthodontics
634
00:36:18.509 --> 00:36:20.469
in the UK because
635
00:36:20.469 --> 00:36:23.139
everyone so vehemently disagrees
with my father.
636
00:36:23.139 --> 00:36:25.808
And that's one of the reasons
I went to Denmark.
637
00:36:25.808 --> 00:36:29.312
I chose Denmark, being, you know,
one of the top orthodontic programs
638
00:36:29.312 --> 00:36:30.354
on the planet.
639
00:36:30.354 --> 00:36:34.859
But I just, you know, I shudder
at what they were teaching me at times.
640
00:36:34.859 --> 00:36:36.319
Just lift the chair up for you.
641
00:36:36.319 --> 00:36:37.862
- That feel okay?
- That's fine.
642
00:36:37.862 --> 00:36:39.989
For about 20 years,
643
00:36:39.989 --> 00:36:43.743
I worked side by side with my father
at least one day a week.
644
00:36:43.743 --> 00:36:47.914
The timer has now failed
on the stage four.
645
00:36:47.914 --> 00:36:50.333
We want Thea wearing it 12 hours a day.
646
00:36:50.333 --> 00:36:52.084
She forgot her appliance.
647
00:36:52.084 --> 00:36:54.545
And it's quite apparent
she's only wearing it at night.
648
00:36:54.545 --> 00:36:57.632
We have two chairs
literally in the same room,
649
00:36:57.632 --> 00:37:00.760
chatting with him about life,
the times, and everything.
650
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.805
And I just have nothing
but happy memories of that.
651
00:37:04.805 --> 00:37:07.183
Then I took over
and it sort of became my clinic.
652
00:37:08.017 --> 00:37:10.603
I literally thought
this would never go anywhere,
653
00:37:10.603 --> 00:37:13.606
but I couldn't bear to do
conventional orthodontics
654
00:37:13.606 --> 00:37:17.818
where I felt I was damaging
people's faces and health.
655
00:37:17.818 --> 00:37:22.240
Orthotropics is what I was born to do.
656
00:37:39.423 --> 00:37:42.051
Very good for you, yogurt.
657
00:37:42.051 --> 00:37:45.137
Well, this is what everyone says--
Or what they were saying.
658
00:37:45.137 --> 00:37:47.640
And all of a sudden, apparently
yogurt is not good for you anymore,
659
00:37:47.640 --> 00:37:51.227
and it's full of sugar.
660
00:37:51.227 --> 00:37:52.270
Yes, I...
661
00:37:54.981 --> 00:38:01.028
I swallow the description
that it's full of the right bacteria.
662
00:38:01.028 --> 00:38:04.156
When you consider
the state of our knowledge,
663
00:38:04.156 --> 00:38:05.783
I think it's abysmal.
664
00:38:06.492 --> 00:38:08.035
How are we getting on with the omelet?
665
00:38:08.035 --> 00:38:10.830
I'm wondering whether to have
some shredded wheat or not.
666
00:38:10.830 --> 00:38:13.499
Well, I think--
I think we are almost omelet-ready.
667
00:38:15.793 --> 00:38:17.837
There we go, sir.
668
00:38:17.837 --> 00:38:20.006
- Fantastic.
- Your omelet.
669
00:38:21.048 --> 00:38:23.092
You're very good with omelets.
670
00:38:23.092 --> 00:38:26.887
Whenever I do them,
they're either too wet or too dry.
671
00:38:30.141 --> 00:38:33.477
There's a very odd smell
coming from your fridge.
672
00:38:33.477 --> 00:38:37.815
Some milk has drained
into your smoked haddock, Dad.
673
00:38:42.153 --> 00:38:43.904
You put cheese in it, didn't you?
674
00:38:43.904 --> 00:38:46.532
- I know.
- Which is lovely, but of course,
675
00:38:46.532 --> 00:38:48.492
it's become very stringy.
676
00:38:51.078 --> 00:38:55.666
Dad's done all of this great stuff,
come up with all these great ideas.
677
00:38:55.666 --> 00:38:58.878
But no one knew about it.
And I knew in orthotropics
678
00:38:58.878 --> 00:39:00.171
there was something interesting.
679
00:39:00.171 --> 00:39:03.841
Almost anyone I have a conversation with
is fascinated with this.
680
00:39:03.841 --> 00:39:09.305
And yet here we have this really dry topic
that I couldn't get out there.
681
00:39:09.305 --> 00:39:12.892
But my father's been trying
for 30, 40 years, if not more,
682
00:39:12.892 --> 00:39:15.311
and he's not made-- got this idea out.
683
00:39:15.311 --> 00:39:16.729
And now we've got social media.
684
00:39:16.729 --> 00:39:22.693
And my bet here is that social media
is going to somehow give us wings.
685
00:39:22.693 --> 00:39:25.196 line:5%
If you can't breathe out of your nose,
686
00:39:26.655 --> 00:39:32.495 line:5%
you're forced to either die
or breathe out of your mouth.
687
00:39:33.704 --> 00:39:36.582
We were just throwing things out there,
688
00:39:36.582 --> 00:39:37.917
throwing anything we could.
689
00:39:37.917 --> 00:39:43.839
Did Brad Pitt have
a stronger jawline in the past?
690
00:39:43.839 --> 00:39:45.091
This way.
691
00:39:45.091 --> 00:39:48.260
And it was really a scattergun approach
692
00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:51.639
to see if we could get people interested
in what we were doing.
693
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:55.101
I now have 14 sticks
of chewing gum in my mouth
694
00:39:55.101 --> 00:39:56.394
all at one time.
695
00:39:56.394 --> 00:39:58.938 line:5%
As this occurs, it narrows,
696
00:39:58.938 --> 00:40:03.776 line:5%
and asymmetries automatically accumulate.
697
00:40:03.776 --> 00:40:05.027
Is that comfortable, Tasha?
698
00:40:07.279 --> 00:40:11.617
It was my objective
to get something to go viral.
699
00:40:11.617 --> 00:40:13.702
You just hold that eye contact,
700
00:40:13.702 --> 00:40:16.288
you know, with a cheeky smile
on your face.
701
00:40:16.288 --> 00:40:20.417
Eye contact with a cheeky smile,
that's magical for a girl.
702
00:40:22.086 --> 00:40:25.214
Someone saw one of my videos,
thought that was interesting,
703
00:40:25.214 --> 00:40:27.466
and I was just asked to give a lecture
704
00:40:27.466 --> 00:40:33.139
at a conference called the 21 Conference,
I think, something like that.
705
00:40:33.139 --> 00:40:34.849
We're in good hands. Let's welcome Mike.
706
00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:40.479
It was the type of thing
that if I'd done proper research,
707
00:40:40.479 --> 00:40:41.689
I'd have never done.
708
00:40:42.481 --> 00:40:44.275
I teach seduction for life.
709
00:40:44.275 --> 00:40:47.945
I am so bored and sick of teaching people
how to walk up and stare at girls
710
00:40:47.945 --> 00:40:49.822
and stop them and go, "Hello."
711
00:40:49.822 --> 00:40:52.241
If you like women and you want to have
sex with women and date them--
712
00:40:52.241 --> 00:40:53.742
Who likes girls?
Put your hands up real quick,
713
00:40:53.742 --> 00:40:55.077
all the people who like women. All right.
714
00:40:55.077 --> 00:40:57.830
Of course, a lot of them,
I showed how to have their first orgasm.
715
00:40:57.830 --> 00:40:59.373
It was great, you know.
716
00:40:59.373 --> 00:41:01.167
They'll--they'll be
real thankful for that.
717
00:41:01.167 --> 00:41:03.461
What gives you a good face?
718
00:41:04.253 --> 00:41:10.551
I know that I look better now
than I did ten years ago.
719
00:41:12.720 --> 00:41:14.555
Because I've made a concerted effort
720
00:41:14.555 --> 00:41:16.724
to get my tongue on the roof
of my mouth...
721
00:41:18.017 --> 00:41:20.436
and chew more, a bit more chewing gum.
722
00:41:20.436 --> 00:41:21.604
That really is the thing.
723
00:41:22.521 --> 00:41:26.400
After that, we noticed
people talking about me
724
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.861
and talking about
these exercises I presented.
725
00:41:28.861 --> 00:41:32.531
If I could plug you in
like they do in Matrix
726
00:41:32.531 --> 00:41:35.159
and upload a good tongue function pattern,
727
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.996
I think I could get you all
to grow fantastically.
728
00:41:40.664 --> 00:41:44.126
We were monitoring my name
on the internet.
729
00:41:44.126 --> 00:41:46.837
We then found a few alerts went out
730
00:41:46.837 --> 00:41:49.924
on a forum called SlutHate.
731
00:41:52.301 --> 00:41:55.638
And it was this world of incels
that I really didn't know much about.
732
00:42:10.569 --> 00:42:13.948
People were talking
about that lecture I'd given
733
00:42:13.948 --> 00:42:17.952
and what they could do
to improve themselves.
734
00:42:17.952 --> 00:42:21.622
So I gave some responses.
735
00:42:21.622 --> 00:42:22.790
Hi.
736
00:42:23.791 --> 00:42:27.378
Thank you for quite a lot of interest
from a number of forums,
737
00:42:27.378 --> 00:42:32.466
in particular,
a forum I'm responding to here
738
00:42:32.466 --> 00:42:35.844
called "SlutHate," as it happens.
739
00:42:37.930 --> 00:42:42.935
The first response came
from IncelExecutioner.
740
00:42:42.935 --> 00:42:45.354
I do love some of the names
you've got here.
741
00:42:45.354 --> 00:42:50.025
BetaGayFace, you asked about face pulling.
742
00:42:50.025 --> 00:42:52.778
A question from Kushmaster.
743
00:42:52.778 --> 00:42:56.574
And then final one, um, Yul Brynner.
744
00:42:58.701 --> 00:43:01.620
Why did I engage with them,
and why did I respond to that?
745
00:43:01.620 --> 00:43:03.747
I guess it's an instinctive thing
746
00:43:03.747 --> 00:43:05.541
to get the information
out there to help people.
747
00:43:06.542 --> 00:43:07.960
Most people go through
this period of time.
748
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.336
I went through this period of time
749
00:43:09.336 --> 00:43:13.632
when I was a young teenager
and I felt gawky and awkward
750
00:43:13.632 --> 00:43:15.009
and I couldn't chat a girl up.
751
00:43:15.009 --> 00:43:16.635
I couldn't-- you know,
it was quite difficult.
752
00:43:21.974 --> 00:43:25.811
I can understand this group of people
753
00:43:25.811 --> 00:43:29.440
gravitated to orthotropics
because, in essence,
754
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.734
this was a sort of secret
755
00:43:31.734 --> 00:43:33.819
that had never been divulged
to them before
756
00:43:33.819 --> 00:43:36.739
that was the answer
to all of their problems.
757
00:43:36.739 --> 00:43:39.742
I'm literally turning--
yes, I'm turning the dweeb to a Chad.
758
00:43:41.118 --> 00:43:43.203
Yes, we engaged-- I engaged on SlutHate,
759
00:43:44.413 --> 00:43:47.374
which is one of those things,
again, if anyone asks you,
760
00:43:47.374 --> 00:43:49.877
never go and engage with people
on this sort of thing.
761
00:43:49.877 --> 00:43:53.255
But science isn't PC.
762
00:43:53.255 --> 00:43:55.341
Science is as you find it.
763
00:43:55.341 --> 00:43:57.718
But, you know, I'd have done a deal
with the devil to get this across.
764
00:43:57.718 --> 00:43:59.636
We've been overwhelmed in response
765
00:43:59.636 --> 00:44:01.430
and interest from people.
766
00:44:03.307 --> 00:44:05.309
It was just--it was a revelation to me.
767
00:44:05.309 --> 00:44:07.478
It was really just nice.
768
00:44:07.478 --> 00:44:09.730
It was nice to actually have an audience
769
00:44:09.730 --> 00:44:11.315
who wanted to listen to you
770
00:44:11.315 --> 00:44:14.526
rather than the door being closed
at every opportunity.
771
00:44:15.402 --> 00:44:20.240
I didn't really cognitively think ahead
of what was happening.
772
00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:22.701
But I could see this thing growing.
773
00:44:22.701 --> 00:44:27.122
All of a sudden, it was like
Pandora's box had been opened.
774
00:44:31.168 --> 00:44:33.337
That exercise is called mewing,
775
00:44:33.337 --> 00:44:36.840
and it's supposed to give you
more defined and sculpted jawline.
776
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.510
Here is an example
of a before and an after.
777
00:44:39.510 --> 00:44:42.930
You can see that her jawline
is more defined.
778
00:44:42.930 --> 00:44:45.974
All you have to do is place your tongue
on the roof of your mouth,
779
00:44:45.974 --> 00:44:47.559
and then you just close your lips.
780
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:49.186
In this video,
I will be telling you
781
00:44:49.186 --> 00:44:52.064
how long it takes to see results
from mewing.
782
00:44:52.064 --> 00:44:53.440
This is Joey.
783
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:55.442
He heard about a technique called mewing,
784
00:44:55.442 --> 00:44:57.528
which is the proper posture of the tongue.
785
00:44:57.528 --> 00:45:02.116
Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm.
786
00:45:02.116 --> 00:45:05.035 line:5%
In the long run, it's actually shown
to improve your face bone structure.
787
00:45:05.869 --> 00:45:07.830
I was not expecting the mewing thing.
788
00:45:07.830 --> 00:45:10.124 line:5%
That's not what I expected to happen.
789
00:45:10.124 --> 00:45:14.753 line:5%
This really sort of academic, medical,
790
00:45:14.753 --> 00:45:18.340 line:5%
dry, difficult to understand
complex of orthotropics
791
00:45:18.340 --> 00:45:20.008 line:5%
that we'd struggled to get out there
792
00:45:20.008 --> 00:45:22.344 line:5%
suddenly became sexy.
793
00:45:22.344 --> 00:45:26.265 line:5%
In yoga, just imagining,
like, the cat's back rounded,
794
00:45:26.265 --> 00:45:27.558
that's your tongue, like, rounded out.
795
00:45:27.558 --> 00:45:28.600
Ah.
796
00:45:28.600 --> 00:45:32.312
I've been amazed
at what's been occurring recently.
797
00:45:32.312 --> 00:45:36.066
I'm wondering when my surname
became a verb.
798
00:45:36.066 --> 00:45:39.653
M-E-W-I-N-G, mewing.
799
00:45:39.653 --> 00:45:40.612
Mewing has changed my life.
800
00:45:41.613 --> 00:45:43.240
What's up, guys? It's Tomazzo here.
801
00:45:43.240 --> 00:45:46.952 line:5%
I look better. I'm healthier. I'm fitter.
802
00:45:46.952 --> 00:45:48.954
But having strong jaw muscles
is also important
803
00:45:48.954 --> 00:45:51.123
because it makes your face
look much better,
804
00:45:51.123 --> 00:45:52.541
even for girls too.
805
00:45:52.541 --> 00:45:55.461
It kind of fixed everything.
It just didn't fix one or two things.
806
00:45:55.461 --> 00:45:58.088
It's revolutionary.
It's gonna transform the world,
807
00:45:58.088 --> 00:45:59.548
like, maybe, probably.
808
00:46:00.924 --> 00:46:05.762
If you want to develop a healthier face,
809
00:46:05.762 --> 00:46:09.475
if you want to fulfill
your genetic potential,
810
00:46:09.475 --> 00:46:11.643
identify it, work on it,
811
00:46:11.643 --> 00:46:14.646
feel that posture a third of the time.
812
00:46:14.646 --> 00:46:18.275
I've got so many kids who are being forced
through orthodontics by their parents.
813
00:46:18.275 --> 00:46:20.027
Mm.
814
00:46:20.027 --> 00:46:22.488
All of a sudden, the idea of mewing
815
00:46:22.488 --> 00:46:26.867
was just this antidote to all of that.
816
00:46:26.867 --> 00:46:30.621
And also, it resonated with "good looks."
817
00:46:36.251 --> 00:46:38.420 line:5%
Mewing is not cat.
818
00:46:38.420 --> 00:46:40.130 line:5%
Mew. It's not cat.
819
00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:42.549 line:5%
It's the correct tongue posture.
820
00:46:42.549 --> 00:46:45.594
Tongue is up and flat.
821
00:46:45.594 --> 00:46:48.222
On the soft palate like a trampoline.
822
00:46:48.222 --> 00:46:49.556
- Hi.
- Hi. Excited to meet you.
823
00:46:49.556 --> 00:46:50.641 line:5%
- How are you?
- My name's Koko.
824
00:46:50.641 --> 00:46:51.600 line:5%
I'm Kim.
825
00:46:51.600 --> 00:46:52.768 line:5%
Thank you so much for coming.
826
00:46:52.768 --> 00:46:54.269
- Scott.
- It's good to meet you. Koko.
827
00:46:54.269 --> 00:46:56.063
- Hi, how are you?
- Thank you.
828
00:46:56.063 --> 00:46:58.440
Have you done any face exercise
829
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.442
- or face yoga or anything like that?
- No.
830
00:47:00.442 --> 00:47:03.070
Mm.
831
00:47:08.367 --> 00:47:11.787
Mewing is a huge part of our method,
face yoga.
832
00:47:11.787 --> 00:47:14.414
Mike Mew is like a legendary doctor
833
00:47:14.414 --> 00:47:15.666
in our community.
834
00:47:15.666 --> 00:47:17.501
He's like our god.
835
00:47:18.168 --> 00:47:19.378
If you want to get freaked out,
836
00:47:19.378 --> 00:47:22.172
type "Mike Mew is God"
into the internet and hashtags.
837
00:47:22.172 --> 00:47:23.632 line:5%
Oh, gosh, it freaks me out.
838
00:47:23.632 --> 00:47:26.552 line:5%
Like, I mean, yes,
I've become a messiah to people.
839
00:47:26.552 --> 00:47:28.345 line:5%
You do have a very good jawline.
840
00:47:28.345 --> 00:47:29.596
I tell you what.
841
00:47:29.596 --> 00:47:30.847
Yeah, you see?
842
00:47:30.847 --> 00:47:32.516
My goodness, me.
843
00:47:34.810 --> 00:47:36.228
And there came a point
844
00:47:36.228 --> 00:47:38.021
when I actually thought to myself,
845
00:47:38.021 --> 00:47:42.359
"Look, we've got the chance
of going around the system."
846
00:47:44.111 --> 00:47:45.320
I believe Mike Mew,
847
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.906
- who I actually had on my podcast--
- Mewing.
848
00:47:47.906 --> 00:47:49.074
Yeah, mewing, exactly.
849
00:47:49.074 --> 00:47:51.368
Mike Mew, I think has cracked the case.
850
00:47:51.368 --> 00:47:52.786 line:5%
That is crazy. Is that real?
851
00:47:52.786 --> 00:47:54.079 line:5%
- Yes.
- Yeah, yeah.
852
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.373 line:5%
- She has like this little tiny ass jaw,
- That is real.
853
00:47:56.373 --> 00:47:57.916 line:5%
and then she developed a real normal one.
854
00:47:57.916 --> 00:47:59.293 line:5%
Yeah.
855
00:47:59.293 --> 00:48:00.752 line:5%
Victor Hugo said,
856
00:48:00.752 --> 00:48:05.716
"No army can stop an idea
whose time has come."
857
00:48:05.716 --> 00:48:08.051
You can't put the genie
back in the bottle.
858
00:48:08.051 --> 00:48:10.178
And I don't care
whether this came out of SlutHate.
859
00:48:10.178 --> 00:48:13.223
I don't care whether this came
through the British Orthodontic Society.
860
00:48:14.725 --> 00:48:16.977
It came, and it became popular.
861
00:48:16.977 --> 00:48:19.187
And now we can be
on to the proper challenge
862
00:48:19.187 --> 00:48:21.940
of scientific engagement, the next step.
863
00:48:28.155 --> 00:48:31.658 line:5%
For me, the ancestral movement
is this return
864
00:48:31.658 --> 00:48:34.911 line:5%
to how our Paleolithic ancestors lived,
865
00:48:34.911 --> 00:48:37.205
moved, and ate, and just understanding
866
00:48:37.205 --> 00:48:39.833
that the more we emulate how they sat
867
00:48:39.833 --> 00:48:41.835
and squatted and kind of moved,
868
00:48:41.835 --> 00:48:43.712
the healthier we became.
869
00:48:43.712 --> 00:48:45.631
And that's what
this whole symposium is about.
870
00:48:45.631 --> 00:48:46.923
It's the ancestral health movement.
871
00:48:46.923 --> 00:48:50.594 line:5%
Next movement is the crawl,
just like a baby would crawl
872
00:48:50.594 --> 00:48:51.887 line:5%
except the knees don't touch.
873
00:48:52.763 --> 00:48:54.181
I've been on a personal journey
874
00:48:54.181 --> 00:48:56.600
in trying to reverse
what's happened to me.
875
00:48:56.600 --> 00:48:58.935
My journey was a little bit more invasive.
876
00:49:01.521 --> 00:49:04.816
It's called a transpalatal distractor,
877
00:49:04.816 --> 00:49:06.234
and it was surgically installed.
878
00:49:06.234 --> 00:49:08.987
And I turn that device every other day
879
00:49:08.987 --> 00:49:10.656
to widen my upper arch.
880
00:49:11.823 --> 00:49:14.910
Doctor's goal is to make
my nasal cavity wider
881
00:49:14.910 --> 00:49:16.495
so I can breathe at night.
882
00:49:16.495 --> 00:49:20.082
Before this, I could not breathe
through my nose at all.
883
00:49:20.082 --> 00:49:21.625
I didn't have any idea why.
884
00:49:21.625 --> 00:49:25.045
I was just, like,
going into research wormholes, confused.
885
00:49:25.045 --> 00:49:28.715
I had no idea what was happening to me
until I discovered mewing.
886
00:49:32.678 --> 00:49:34.554
So understanding craniofacial dystrophy,
887
00:49:34.554 --> 00:49:36.973
as Mike Mew calls it, helped me understand
888
00:49:36.973 --> 00:49:38.934
what happened to me.
889
00:49:38.934 --> 00:49:43.146
Incorporating his philosophy
is curing my sleep apnea.
890
00:49:43.146 --> 00:49:46.358
It's literally, like, saving my life.
891
00:49:46.358 --> 00:49:49.736
Personally, I find him to be like an idol,
like someone who's championing the truth
892
00:49:49.736 --> 00:49:51.863
right now in the scientific world
893
00:49:51.863 --> 00:49:53.907
where it's really hard
to come up with new ideas.
894
00:49:55.826 --> 00:49:58.370
All right, this is starting
to feel a bit like the Oscars.
895
00:49:58.370 --> 00:50:01.206
We've got a superstar coming up right now,
896
00:50:01.206 --> 00:50:04.876 line:5%
none other than Dr. Mike Mew.
He's an orthodontist from London
897
00:50:04.876 --> 00:50:09.172 line:5%
and an expert in oral posture
and rehabilitation.
898
00:50:09.172 --> 00:50:11.717
He's here to discuss how the way in which
899
00:50:11.717 --> 00:50:15.804
we hold our mouths
affects how our faces will grow,
900
00:50:15.804 --> 00:50:18.140
how we'll breathe, and more.
901
00:50:19.349 --> 00:50:21.893
What I'm trying to do is I'm trying
to start pulling everyone together
902
00:50:21.893 --> 00:50:26.815
to make this movement.
And I've never done that before.
903
00:50:26.815 --> 00:50:28.400
I don't quite know what to do.
904
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.737
This is the biggest disease you've all got
that you don't know about.
905
00:50:31.737 --> 00:50:34.823
Because it's in your face.
It is your face.
906
00:50:34.823 --> 00:50:39.077
You know, you don't want to admit this.
It's uncomfortable to admit it.
907
00:50:39.077 --> 00:50:41.496
You're all affected. You're all deformed.
908
00:50:43.248 --> 00:50:45.250
You know, we've never really had this,
909
00:50:45.250 --> 00:50:48.420
where a group of people come together,
910
00:50:49.796 --> 00:50:50.839
fomented on the internet.
911
00:50:50.839 --> 00:50:52.758
You know, we had
the Arab Spring where people--
912
00:50:52.758 --> 00:50:54.760
the social media helped
get people together
913
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.304
as a cohesive group to gain change.
914
00:50:57.304 --> 00:50:58.388
Um...
915
00:50:59.723 --> 00:51:02.517
now I want to try and do
the same thing in medicine,
916
00:51:02.517 --> 00:51:05.896
you know, by the people,
for the people type of thing.
917
00:51:05.896 --> 00:51:08.732
And what we really need is a revolution.
918
00:51:08.732 --> 00:51:12.152
Many of you here will be
affected by the problems I'm saying,
919
00:51:12.152 --> 00:51:16.198
you know, forward head posture,
snoring, sleep apnea.
920
00:51:17.616 --> 00:51:21.411
My father's focus on facial beauty
921
00:51:21.411 --> 00:51:24.539
has definitely held
this whole science back,
922
00:51:24.539 --> 00:51:28.376
and there is no real way around that.
923
00:51:28.376 --> 00:51:31.588
He goes full on, full throttle to beauty.
924
00:51:31.588 --> 00:51:34.925
And I think that harms his message.
925
00:51:35.884 --> 00:51:38.804
People seem to care so much
more about how they look
926
00:51:38.804 --> 00:51:39.930
than how healthy they are.
927
00:51:41.181 --> 00:51:43.517
But if I can use that
to get people to be healthier,
928
00:51:43.517 --> 00:51:45.352
then great. I'll do what I want.
929
00:51:45.352 --> 00:51:47.813
If your face didn't grow well,
930
00:51:48.522 --> 00:51:51.733
you may be looking ugly.
931
00:51:52.651 --> 00:51:56.154
That is your fault, and that may well have
932
00:51:56.154 --> 00:51:58.240
significant health implications.
933
00:51:58.240 --> 00:51:59.407
You know?
934
00:51:59.407 --> 00:52:01.451
I'm saying don't be happy
with where you are.
935
00:52:02.536 --> 00:52:04.704
Get off your ass and change.
936
00:52:04.704 --> 00:52:08.208
And, Mike, how about
for craniofacial dystrophy,
937
00:52:08.208 --> 00:52:09.459
what can we do right now?
938
00:52:09.459 --> 00:52:11.711
What can everyone
in this room do right now
939
00:52:11.711 --> 00:52:12.838
to help reverse this?
940
00:52:12.838 --> 00:52:15.340
Stand up straight and shut your mouth.
941
00:52:16.424 --> 00:52:19.052
Speaking of chewing,
it's lunchtime, everybody.
942
00:52:19.052 --> 00:52:24.474
So thank you very much for coming.
Thank you to the entire panel.
943
00:52:42.450 --> 00:52:47.163
Michael gets upset with me
because I talk a lot
944
00:52:47.163 --> 00:52:50.458
about facial appearance
and attractiveness.
945
00:52:50.458 --> 00:52:53.628
He says that that is counterproductive
946
00:52:53.628 --> 00:52:57.090
to the idea of promoting orthotropics.
947
00:52:57.090 --> 00:52:58.884
I say nonsense.
948
00:52:58.884 --> 00:53:03.013
Anybody can make themselves
really good-looking
949
00:53:03.013 --> 00:53:07.392
if they try, well,
certainly by the age of ten.
950
00:53:11.229 --> 00:53:13.273
As a five-year-old,
951
00:53:13.273 --> 00:53:15.317
I had a beautifully shaped face.
952
00:53:15.317 --> 00:53:18.737
Lovely, round, a bit square.
Very attractive.
953
00:53:18.737 --> 00:53:21.448
But at the age of nine,
954
00:53:21.448 --> 00:53:24.075
I started to leave my mouth open.
955
00:53:24.659 --> 00:53:29.664
And the whole shape of my face
changed really quite dramatically.
956
00:53:29.664 --> 00:53:34.920
And I can remember going from being
a square-faced boy to a long-faced boy.
957
00:53:37.881 --> 00:53:41.551
I do remember one girl
I rather fancied saying,
958
00:53:41.551 --> 00:53:45.221
"You know, the boy with the long face,"
referring to me.
959
00:53:45.221 --> 00:53:48.016
So yes, people did notice.
960
00:53:48.016 --> 00:53:51.144
But I've always been
a fairly lively individual.
961
00:53:51.144 --> 00:53:55.357
Therefore, I don't think
that it handicapped me that much.
962
00:53:55.357 --> 00:53:58.485
But it did mean
I didn't get the pretty girls.
963
00:54:02.906 --> 00:54:06.618
Your face is your fortune,
without the slightest doubt.
964
00:54:08.244 --> 00:54:11.623
Good-looking people
have all the advantages.
965
00:54:12.916 --> 00:54:15.627 line:5%
This was a drawing
966
00:54:15.627 --> 00:54:19.297 line:5%
that I asked a professional artist
967
00:54:19.297 --> 00:54:25.470 line:5%
to make for me to represent
what I thought was a truly beautiful face.
968
00:54:25.470 --> 00:54:28.223
I sent it back to the painter,
969
00:54:28.223 --> 00:54:31.393
I would think, ten times, saying,
970
00:54:31.393 --> 00:54:33.603
"Please alter this, please alter that."
971
00:54:33.603 --> 00:54:36.314 line:5%
And I'm still not really happy with it.
972
00:54:36.314 --> 00:54:39.109
I really believe that in our mind,
973
00:54:39.109 --> 00:54:42.821
imprinted in our subconscious,
974
00:54:42.821 --> 00:54:45.073
we know exactly
975
00:54:45.073 --> 00:54:47.325
what the perfect face looks like.
976
00:54:47.325 --> 00:54:51.371
And we know within one or two millimeters.
977
00:54:52.163 --> 00:54:54.124
And we actually measure that.
978
00:54:54.124 --> 00:54:56.292
We have an instrument
979
00:54:56.292 --> 00:54:59.671
which we call an indicator ruler.
980
00:54:59.671 --> 00:55:01.131
Very simple.
981
00:55:01.131 --> 00:55:04.801
And you put this bit there
under your teeth like that.
982
00:55:05.969 --> 00:55:08.763
And then you touch your nose.
983
00:55:08.763 --> 00:55:11.599
I would say this part of my face
984
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:14.936
is probably that much too far back.
985
00:55:14.936 --> 00:55:16.813
Twenty, twenty-five millimeters.
986
00:55:16.813 --> 00:55:19.024
That's a huge measurement.
987
00:55:19.024 --> 00:55:22.110
- These 20 millimeters...
- Yes.
988
00:55:22.110 --> 00:55:24.112
What difference
have they made in your life?
989
00:55:24.612 --> 00:55:27.407
Um, I-- I would have been good-looking.
990
00:55:41.629 --> 00:55:45.133 line:5%
Don't underestimate
the long-term effects
991
00:55:45.133 --> 00:55:46.968 line:5%
of gaining habits.
992
00:55:46.968 --> 00:55:51.222 line:5%
And it's very difficult
to enthuse children--
993
00:55:51.222 --> 00:55:54.976
Elbows off the table, Jessica.
Elbows off. Elbows off.
994
00:55:54.976 --> 00:55:55.935
Good girl.
995
00:55:57.062 --> 00:56:01.858
Enthuse children at an older age
to change deeply ingrained habits.
996
00:56:01.858 --> 00:56:05.153
And a habit learned at this age
997
00:56:05.153 --> 00:56:08.865
can become a lifetime's change.
998
00:56:09.949 --> 00:56:11.034
Elbows off the table.
999
00:56:11.910 --> 00:56:14.829
There. There we go. Lips together.
1000
00:56:15.663 --> 00:56:17.290
Michael is a little bit--
1001
00:56:18.333 --> 00:56:19.542 line:5%
he's a little bit strange.
1002
00:56:19.542 --> 00:56:22.003 line:5%
And we're all strange in some ways.
1003
00:56:22.003 --> 00:56:26.174 line:5%
But, um, I do take him as he is.
1004
00:56:26.174 --> 00:56:28.676
And I'm fine with it, you know?
1005
00:56:28.676 --> 00:56:30.637
Yeah, it's perfect, Milla.
1006
00:56:30.637 --> 00:56:33.640
I couldn't have met someone
more perfect than you,
1007
00:56:33.640 --> 00:56:34.891
- you know, honestly.
- No way.
1008
00:56:34.891 --> 00:56:36.643
- Yeah, no, honestly.
- No one better than me?
1009
00:56:36.643 --> 00:56:38.103
No, no, no, no, you're right.
1010
00:56:40.271 --> 00:56:44.776
He said to me straightaway, um,
"You have nice teeth."
1011
00:56:47.779 --> 00:56:49.697
- That's okay.
- Yeah.
1012
00:56:50.365 --> 00:56:51.407
Yeah, it's a good line.
1013
00:56:52.659 --> 00:56:53.535
Mm.
1014
00:56:54.202 --> 00:56:55.120
Oh, you're both chewing.
1015
00:56:56.579 --> 00:56:59.124
- Yeah. For later.
- You're a gum-chewing family.
1016
00:56:59.124 --> 00:57:00.583
- Yes, we try and force it
- Yeah.
1017
00:57:00.583 --> 00:57:01.709
on the kids, as well.
1018
00:57:04.254 --> 00:57:05.505
Okay, here's a gravy.
1019
00:57:05.505 --> 00:57:07.340
Don't lean on the table, just serve it.
1020
00:57:07.340 --> 00:57:12.053
Daddy, today I had
a chocolate pudding for lunch.
1021
00:57:12.053 --> 00:57:15.223
You had a chocolate pancake
for pudding for lunch today?
1022
00:57:15.223 --> 00:57:16.766
- Dear me.
- Chocolate inside.
1023
00:57:16.766 --> 00:57:19.060
- Lucky girl, eh?
- Lucky girl.
1024
00:57:19.060 --> 00:57:21.521
Yeah, what is that school feeding you, eh?
1025
00:57:21.521 --> 00:57:23.898
- No, not school.
- No, it's Mummy, actually.
1026
00:57:23.898 --> 00:57:25.859
- It was Mummy, was it?
- It's the lunch box, yeah.
1027
00:57:25.859 --> 00:57:27.193
Oh, yeah, right, the lunch box.
1028
00:57:36.703 --> 00:57:38.830
- Lips closed.
- Don't speak with your mouth full.
1029
00:57:40.206 --> 00:57:41.457
Lips together, Zarina.
1030
00:57:42.709 --> 00:57:44.836
Lips together. I can see the kale
sticking out your mouth.
1031
00:57:51.468 --> 00:57:56.598
Personal vlog, September the 25th, 2018.
1032
00:57:57.932 --> 00:58:01.436 line:5%
I have been expelled
from the British Orthodontic Society.
1033
00:58:03.354 --> 00:58:05.648 line:5%
The decision was unanimous.
1034
00:58:05.648 --> 00:58:09.360
And to quote
a paragraph from the decision,
1035
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.280
"Having listened to what you had to say
1036
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:15.658
and having considered the matter in full,
1037
00:58:15.658 --> 00:58:20.580
the unanimous decision of the board
is that, in our opinion,
1038
00:58:20.580 --> 00:58:24.167
your conduct is contrary
to the interests of the society."
1039
00:58:25.168 --> 00:58:28.421
Now, they all went on to say
1040
00:58:28.421 --> 00:58:30.215
that they felt the social media campaign
1041
00:58:30.215 --> 00:58:35.595
that I've run seems to demonstrate
an unhealthy obsession with publicity
1042
00:58:35.595 --> 00:58:37.513
to the detriment of patients.
1043
00:58:37.513 --> 00:58:41.184
Um, now, I don't want to be taken
into a dark corner
1044
00:58:41.184 --> 00:58:43.353
and mugged quietly.
1045
00:58:50.610 --> 00:58:54.447
What I would really like to do
is just get someone to engage in debate.
1046
00:58:54.447 --> 00:58:55.865
So I want to go along
1047
00:58:55.865 --> 00:58:58.952
to the British Orthodontic
Society Conference.
1048
00:58:58.952 --> 00:59:01.621
It's the big conference of orthodontics.
1049
00:59:05.583 --> 00:59:06.793
If I had to give you
1050
00:59:06.793 --> 00:59:09.504
one word about how I feel just now
about being at conference again
1051
00:59:09.504 --> 00:59:11.464
in Manchester and seeing everybody,
1052
00:59:11.464 --> 00:59:14.050
I think that it's summed up
in the word "giddy."
1053
00:59:19.597 --> 00:59:22.600
I think one of the biggest problems
1054
00:59:22.600 --> 00:59:26.479
is that lots and lots of patients
1055
00:59:26.479 --> 00:59:29.607
who have heard about me
or seen my videos online
1056
00:59:29.607 --> 00:59:31.442
are asking difficult questions
1057
00:59:31.442 --> 00:59:33.569
the orthodontists can't answer.
1058
00:59:34.946 --> 00:59:36.864
The closer we get to Manchester,
1059
00:59:36.864 --> 00:59:39.492
the closer we get
to the British Orthodontic Society,
1060
00:59:39.492 --> 00:59:42.912
the more scared I get.
1061
00:59:42.912 --> 00:59:44.414
You know, there's no other word.
1062
00:59:44.414 --> 00:59:47.083
You know, it's just--
1063
00:59:47.083 --> 00:59:49.252
It's really hard to do this.
1064
00:59:49.252 --> 00:59:50.878
It's really, really hard.
1065
01:00:04.267 --> 01:00:08.771
You know, I've never had
a full scientific discussion
1066
01:00:08.771 --> 01:00:11.274
or engagement with any orthodontist,
1067
01:00:11.274 --> 01:00:14.944
probably ever in my life, never.
You know, and I think that's a shame.
1068
01:00:15.945 --> 01:00:18.406
I would imagine that most people
at this conference
1069
01:00:18.406 --> 01:00:21.868
would describe me as a charlatan.
1070
01:00:21.868 --> 01:00:23.244
I think they probably think
1071
01:00:23.244 --> 01:00:25.622
I'm a bit stupid and a bit mad.
1072
01:00:27.332 --> 01:00:32.670
I mean, just wake up.
You know, actually read a bloody paper.
1073
01:00:32.670 --> 01:00:34.714
Actually ask yourself the question.
1074
01:00:34.714 --> 01:00:38.676
You did blindly follow the orthodontist
'cause they're your mates.
1075
01:00:38.676 --> 01:00:41.512
Yeah, actually do
what you were trained to do
1076
01:00:41.512 --> 01:00:43.222
and look at the basic evidence.
1077
01:00:44.098 --> 01:00:45.516
You know, you go into the lion's den.
1078
01:00:45.516 --> 01:00:46.517
That's where I'm going now.
1079
01:01:04.786 --> 01:01:09.248
I, un, I got a sense,
and by a sense, I mean a number of emails
1080
01:01:09.248 --> 01:01:11.334
from Nigel Harradine,
1081
01:01:11.334 --> 01:01:14.212
- Yeah.
- who was the head of the BSSO.
1082
01:01:14.212 --> 01:01:15.588
- Now the BOS.
- Yeah.
1083
01:01:15.588 --> 01:01:19.801
And he-- What came across
was a real Mew fatigue.
1084
01:01:19.801 --> 01:01:22.387 line:5%
The vast body of orthodontists
in this country
1085
01:01:22.387 --> 01:01:25.556 line:5%
who are well trained who go on courses
1086
01:01:25.556 --> 01:01:27.517 line:5%
who read the literature and keep up,
1087
01:01:27.517 --> 01:01:30.353
they're basing their practice
on the best available evidence.
1088
01:01:30.353 --> 01:01:33.481
And some people just like to perhaps feel
1089
01:01:33.481 --> 01:01:35.191
that they are slightly crying
in the wilderness.
1090
01:01:35.191 --> 01:01:36.901
He used a few terms.
1091
01:01:36.901 --> 01:01:40.029
"The science falls
on their completely deaf ears,"
1092
01:01:40.029 --> 01:01:43.032
and, "They are an ancient fossil
with no adherents,"
1093
01:01:43.032 --> 01:01:46.035
and, "Irrelevant noisy fringe,"
1094
01:01:46.035 --> 01:01:47.578
and, "What they're selling is a scam."
1095
01:01:47.578 --> 01:01:48.538
Right.
1096
01:01:48.538 --> 01:01:52.291
I totally agree with every word
you've just cited.
1097
01:01:52.291 --> 01:01:55.503
What I disagree with is that somebody
as important
1098
01:01:55.503 --> 01:01:59.173
as a former head of the British Society
for Orthodontics,
1099
01:01:59.173 --> 01:02:05.221
it's not enough to say,
"I'm sick of hearing Mewisms."
1100
01:02:05.221 --> 01:02:07.682
What he should be doing
is use the scientific method
1101
01:02:07.682 --> 01:02:10.143
and say why it's rubbish.
1102
01:02:10.143 --> 01:02:12.270
Point out what's wrong with the Mews
1103
01:02:12.270 --> 01:02:15.523
and how the Mews have the responsibility
1104
01:02:15.523 --> 01:02:20.069
to prove that what they're saying
has some merit, scientific merit.
1105
01:02:20.069 --> 01:02:23.239
The Orthodontic Society is not doing it.
1106
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.950
And I suspect the reason
that they're not doing it
1107
01:02:25.950 --> 01:02:29.537
is because some of the things
that orthodontists do
1108
01:02:29.537 --> 01:02:35.251
are equally culpable,
equally without foundation.
1109
01:02:38.463 --> 01:02:43.426
One has to look back
at the last modern century
1110
01:02:43.426 --> 01:02:44.719
of orthodontic practice
1111
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.388
to fully understand the business.
1112
01:02:49.557 --> 01:02:55.021
Edward Angle probably
was one of the greatest tinkerers
1113
01:02:55.021 --> 01:02:57.774 line:5%
in all of health care history.
1114
01:02:57.774 --> 01:03:00.276 line:5%
He was almost like a Thomas Edison
1115
01:03:00.276 --> 01:03:02.320 line:5%
of orthodontia.
1116
01:03:04.906 --> 01:03:08.576
And in that time, the late 1890's,
1117
01:03:08.576 --> 01:03:11.496
there was a Victorian concept
1118
01:03:11.496 --> 01:03:15.708
that man needed to achieve nature's ideal.
1119
01:03:15.708 --> 01:03:19.253
And Angle was a subscriber
to this point of view.
1120
01:03:19.253 --> 01:03:22.423
He looked at how teeth come together,
1121
01:03:22.423 --> 01:03:24.592
which is called occlusion,
1122
01:03:24.592 --> 01:03:27.803
and he came up
with a classification system
1123
01:03:27.803 --> 01:03:31.766
of what he believed
was nature's intended ideal.
1124
01:03:33.810 --> 01:03:35.728
Edward Angle was the first one
1125
01:03:35.728 --> 01:03:39.023
to start a school of orthodontics,
1126
01:03:39.023 --> 01:03:42.860
and thereby, he had a monopoly
of orthodontic education.
1127
01:03:45.154 --> 01:03:47.657
He had this ancient skull,
1128
01:03:47.657 --> 01:03:50.618
which had 32 teeth in perfect alignment.
1129
01:03:50.618 --> 01:03:56.165
And that became--
by dictum, by Angle's rule,
1130
01:03:56.165 --> 01:03:57.625
this is the aim of treatment.
1131
01:03:57.625 --> 01:04:02.171
If God didn't want you to have 32 teeth,
he would have given you 28, right?
1132
01:04:04.131 --> 01:04:10.096
From that point forward,
that became the gold standard
1133
01:04:10.096 --> 01:04:13.057
that you were supposed to achieve
at the end of treatment.
1134
01:04:14.809 --> 01:04:16.852
And he concentrated,
1135
01:04:16.852 --> 01:04:18.771
over the course of his lifetime,
1136
01:04:18.771 --> 01:04:22.358
the best way to move those teeth.
1137
01:04:26.070 --> 01:04:28.406
With each step towards facility,
1138
01:04:28.406 --> 01:04:31.325
more people jumped on the bandwagon.
1139
01:04:33.536 --> 01:04:36.914
Angle defined it as a standard of beauty
1140
01:04:36.914 --> 01:04:38.499
because it was ideal.
1141
01:04:38.499 --> 01:04:43.588 line:5%
Ideal and normal and beauty
all became conflated
1142
01:04:43.588 --> 01:04:47.508
in one concept, the orthodontic ideal.
1143
01:04:48.342 --> 01:04:50.636
And therefore, come to me,
1144
01:04:50.636 --> 01:04:52.638
your lovely, friendly orthodontist,
1145
01:04:52.638 --> 01:04:54.056
and I'll make you look normal
1146
01:04:54.056 --> 01:04:56.434
by arranging your 32 teeth
1147
01:04:56.434 --> 01:04:59.520
exactly the same way as his and hers
1148
01:04:59.520 --> 01:05:01.439
and hers and his and then the other.
1149
01:05:01.439 --> 01:05:02.899
Everybody should look the same.
1150
01:05:02.899 --> 01:05:05.735
That's the goal of orthodontics.
1151
01:05:05.735 --> 01:05:08.863
I mean, just because you have
a Korean child here
1152
01:05:08.863 --> 01:05:11.991
and a Spanish child there,
to hell with it.
1153
01:05:11.991 --> 01:05:15.870
Just do everybody the same,
'cause everybody wants to look the same.
1154
01:05:15.870 --> 01:05:17.663
Everybody wants to look good.
1155
01:05:17.663 --> 01:05:21.626
Everybody wants to look
like an American model or a film star.
1156
01:05:22.543 --> 01:05:23.878
Is there anything wrong with that?
1157
01:05:28.549 --> 01:05:30.926 line:5%
The British Orthodontic Society
is just a club.
1158
01:05:30.926 --> 01:05:32.637 line:5%
You don't need to be a member
1159
01:05:32.637 --> 01:05:34.013 line:5%
of the British Orthodontic Society.
1160
01:05:36.849 --> 01:05:40.519
Now, the problem with this is that
they had already
1161
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:41.854
referred me to the General Dental Council.
1162
01:05:43.606 --> 01:05:46.817
The General Dental Council
holds my license to practice.
1163
01:05:46.817 --> 01:05:51.322
So, we will have a hearing
at the General Dental Council in November.
1164
01:05:51.322 --> 01:05:55.201
And in November, they're going to decide
whether or not to take my license away.
1165
01:05:55.201 --> 01:05:58.162
So, I tried to engage some people
in conversation,
1166
01:05:58.162 --> 01:06:01.207
and it is literally,
"No, I don't want to talk to you."
1167
01:06:01.207 --> 01:06:04.710
You know, it's really quite oppressive
for you to be in a place
1168
01:06:04.710 --> 01:06:07.713
where 50% of the people are blanking you.
1169
01:06:07.713 --> 01:06:10.549
And you know--you know,
you can see people touching
1170
01:06:10.549 --> 01:06:13.094
and talking about you
and pointing you out.
1171
01:06:13.094 --> 01:06:14.637
You know, this whole thing,
what I'm doing,
1172
01:06:14.637 --> 01:06:19.433
it really takes courage to do this.
1173
01:06:19.433 --> 01:06:21.185
You know, I'm impressed with my father.
1174
01:06:21.185 --> 01:06:23.312
He's got thicker skin than I've got.
1175
01:06:23.312 --> 01:06:27.733
Maybe he didn't at my age and he grew.
1176
01:06:30.111 --> 01:06:32.571
I'm slightly concerned
1177
01:06:32.571 --> 01:06:37.201
that this is going to be a story about you
1178
01:06:37.201 --> 01:06:40.079
rather than about orthotropics.
1179
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:44.959
I don't--I don't think you want that,
but I think they're gonna make it that.
1180
01:06:57.638 --> 01:06:58.556
Hi, Mike.
1181
01:07:10.026 --> 01:07:11.736
So the GDC now know
1182
01:07:11.736 --> 01:07:12.987
- you've taken the case.
- They do.
1183
01:07:12.987 --> 01:07:14.780
- So they've been informed of that. Okay.
- Yes, they've been informed.
1184
01:07:14.780 --> 01:07:16.866
- So they're waiting on you.
- They know that there'll be a time lag,
1185
01:07:16.866 --> 01:07:18.325
- obviously, for us to catch up.
- Yes. Yeah.
1186
01:07:18.325 --> 01:07:22.371 line:5%
I've been going
through the very interesting statement
1187
01:07:22.371 --> 01:07:24.415 line:5%
- of Stephen Powell.
- Mm.
1188
01:07:24.415 --> 01:07:25.458 line:5%
Now, you know that's...
1189
01:07:25.458 --> 01:07:27.209
- nearly 200 pages long.
- Good bedtime reading.
1190
01:07:27.209 --> 01:07:28.836
Yeah. Nearly 200 pages long
1191
01:07:28.836 --> 01:07:31.464
- with about 200 pages of appendices.
- Mm.
1192
01:07:31.464 --> 01:07:33.799
I'm working my way through that slowly.
1193
01:07:33.799 --> 01:07:38.888
But the accusation is fundamental.
1194
01:07:38.888 --> 01:07:40.014
It's root and branch.
1195
01:07:40.014 --> 01:07:41.057
- They say what you're saying
- Yeah.
1196
01:07:41.057 --> 01:07:42.558
- is total nonsense.
- A total nonsense, yes.
1197
01:07:42.558 --> 01:07:44.351
In essence, he's calling you a charlatan.
1198
01:07:44.351 --> 01:07:46.812
- Mm. One of us is a charlatan.
- But--
1199
01:07:46.812 --> 01:07:47.772
Okay.
1200
01:07:47.772 --> 01:07:51.358
Well, the trial, I think,
in the next few months
1201
01:07:51.358 --> 01:07:53.569
- is going to work out which one.
- Yes.
1202
01:07:53.569 --> 01:07:56.614
The allegations against him
are quite lengthy.
1203
01:07:56.614 --> 01:07:58.991
So, I'll just give you a flavor
of what they are.
1204
01:07:58.991 --> 01:08:01.243
Basically, what the GDC is saying
1205
01:08:01.243 --> 01:08:03.120
or what the prosecution is saying
1206
01:08:03.120 --> 01:08:08.709
is that he was making claims
about his procedures
1207
01:08:08.709 --> 01:08:11.087
which have no scientific basis,
1208
01:08:11.087 --> 01:08:15.049
so saying, "We can do X and Y."
1209
01:08:15.049 --> 01:08:19.678
In fact, he knew
that he could not achieve X and Y.
1210
01:08:19.678 --> 01:08:21.180
A second part of it
1211
01:08:21.180 --> 01:08:25.643
is that he was advocating
the need for treatment
1212
01:08:25.643 --> 01:08:27.394
where they are saying
1213
01:08:27.394 --> 01:08:29.313
actually there was no need
for treatment at all.
1214
01:08:29.313 --> 01:08:31.482
In terms of the expert evidence
against him,
1215
01:08:31.482 --> 01:08:35.820
they are saying that the whole thing
is basically snake oil.
1216
01:08:37.738 --> 01:08:41.200
Undoubtedly, orthotropics is on trial.
1217
01:08:41.826 --> 01:08:44.954
I mean, I'm concerned for Michael.
I'm his father.
1218
01:08:44.954 --> 01:08:48.374
But I've been through
the same battle myself,
1219
01:08:48.374 --> 01:08:50.376
and I know that Michael
1220
01:08:50.376 --> 01:08:52.670
- will not get a fair trial.
- I can--
1221
01:08:52.670 --> 01:08:54.338
What do you think about the new barrister?
1222
01:08:54.338 --> 01:08:57.133
He has asked for all the cash up front.
1223
01:08:57.133 --> 01:08:59.677
Now, that's very unusual with a barrister.
1224
01:08:59.677 --> 01:09:03.681
Not--not top barristers in London.
1225
01:09:03.681 --> 01:09:05.808
Well, I've not come across it yet.
1226
01:09:05.808 --> 01:09:08.811
Yeah, 'cause you've not been playing
in that game yet.
1227
01:09:08.811 --> 01:09:10.855
- Oh, I don't think you're right.
- Oh, maybe.
1228
01:09:10.855 --> 01:09:11.939
On one occasion,
1229
01:09:11.939 --> 01:09:14.483
- I took the minister of health to court.
- To the high court.
1230
01:09:14.483 --> 01:09:17.528
- Yes, you did, didn't you?
- I did not get much higher than that.
1231
01:09:17.528 --> 01:09:19.446
My case is different.
1232
01:09:19.446 --> 01:09:24.326
So tactically, as we start up
till my court case,
1233
01:09:24.326 --> 01:09:29.456
could maybe not be too critical
of the whole orthodontic profession.
1234
01:09:30.749 --> 01:09:34.086
Yes, I mean,
when talking to orthodontists,
1235
01:09:34.086 --> 01:09:36.046
I'm always very polite.
1236
01:09:36.964 --> 01:09:41.260
The ideal way and the way we've agreed...
1237
01:09:41.260 --> 01:09:44.722
- Right.
- We're trying not to be
1238
01:09:45.556 --> 01:09:49.560
too immediately insulting
about fixed braces.
1239
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.396
Um, you are. I'm not.
1240
01:09:52.396 --> 01:09:54.398
You won't separate me on that.
1241
01:09:54.398 --> 01:09:58.110
Fixed braces should never be used.
1242
01:09:58.110 --> 01:10:02.197
They damage the teeth,
the roots, and the face.
1243
01:10:02.197 --> 01:10:04.575
Then say fixed appliances
can damage faces,
1244
01:10:04.575 --> 01:10:06.702
not that they always do it.
1245
01:10:06.702 --> 01:10:09.163
No, Michael, I really can't.
1246
01:10:09.163 --> 01:10:10.581
- Okay. Okay.
- I'm sorry.
1247
01:10:10.581 --> 01:10:12.124
We won't agree on that.
1248
01:10:12.124 --> 01:10:16.378
- I am not good at changing people's minds.
- Yes.
1249
01:10:16.378 --> 01:10:19.340
- No.
- But I do speak the truth.
1250
01:10:19.340 --> 01:10:22.718
If Michael is going soft on that,
1251
01:10:22.718 --> 01:10:26.055
it's because he doesn't want
to rock the boat too much,
1252
01:10:26.055 --> 01:10:27.389
but it's true.
1253
01:10:27.389 --> 01:10:32.728
Dad, you were a property developer.
That's how you made your money.
1254
01:10:32.728 --> 01:10:34.730
- Yes.
- You could-- Later in your career,
1255
01:10:34.730 --> 01:10:36.106
you could afford to lose your license.
1256
01:10:36.106 --> 01:10:37.066
Yes.
1257
01:10:37.066 --> 01:10:40.361
You know, I've got a young--
I've got a young family.
1258
01:10:40.361 --> 01:10:43.322
You know, for me, I mean, I've--
1259
01:10:43.322 --> 01:10:45.407
I've sold my house for the proceeds.
1260
01:10:45.407 --> 01:10:47.159
Now I've just taken the deposit
1261
01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:48.577
for buying another house
1262
01:10:48.577 --> 01:10:50.621
and blown that as well.
1263
01:10:50.621 --> 01:10:54.458
So this is everything.
I've put everything into it.
1264
01:10:54.458 --> 01:10:57.002
This is everything of my life.
1265
01:10:57.002 --> 01:10:59.672
So, I think-- And also,
1266
01:10:59.672 --> 01:11:01.173
my father has already lost his license.
1267
01:11:01.173 --> 01:11:02.800
You know, we don't have a backup now.
1268
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:05.511
I'm plan B. Plan B's got to work.
1269
01:11:11.433 --> 01:11:15.521
Obviously, he paid
quite a big money for that barrister.
1270
01:11:15.521 --> 01:11:17.189
Michael said, "Do you think--
1271
01:11:17.189 --> 01:11:23.112
can I pay that money to the lawyer
instead of buying a house?"
1272
01:11:23.112 --> 01:11:27.074
And I said, "Well, if you think
it's the right thing to do, you do it."
1273
01:11:27.074 --> 01:11:30.160
So, when you have family,
1274
01:11:30.160 --> 01:11:33.872
you know, it's what you do.
1275
01:11:39.211 --> 01:11:43.590
Hundred percent I'm sure
that he gonna win that case.
1276
01:11:43.590 --> 01:11:48.762
Otherwise, I would be very--
it will be--I will be just...
1277
01:11:48.762 --> 01:11:50.973
How should I say?
1278
01:11:50.973 --> 01:11:53.017
I'm gonna invite the barrister for tea.
1279
01:11:56.061 --> 01:11:58.772
It's a familiar narrative
all the way through history.
1280
01:11:58.772 --> 01:12:00.316
David and Goliath,
1281
01:12:00.316 --> 01:12:02.860
big corporations, the small guy,
1282
01:12:02.860 --> 01:12:04.320
the whistleblower.
1283
01:12:07.948 --> 01:12:11.410
He has, I think,
the understandable difficulty
1284
01:12:11.410 --> 01:12:13.537
that he's very emotionally invested.
1285
01:12:13.537 --> 01:12:16.582
This is now two generations of individuals
1286
01:12:16.582 --> 01:12:21.295
that are protecting a theory
and a way of treatment,
1287
01:12:21.295 --> 01:12:22.963
whether that lives or dies.
1288
01:12:24.673 --> 01:12:29.261
I-- My life is layers and layers
and layers of stress at the moment.
1289
01:12:29.261 --> 01:12:32.723
It's worries about my career,
1290
01:12:32.723 --> 01:12:34.892
how that-- If I lose my license,
1291
01:12:34.892 --> 01:12:37.478
you know, how I will let
all my patients down.
1292
01:12:37.478 --> 01:12:40.814
You know, I'm worried about
moving the science I'm doing forwards.
1293
01:12:40.814 --> 01:12:43.650
You know, because I know
what I can achieve.
1294
01:12:43.650 --> 01:12:46.820
And I know that I'm not getting
the halfway there
1295
01:12:46.820 --> 01:12:48.989
with my patients at the moment.
1296
01:12:51.408 --> 01:12:54.078
What's been happening
since I saw you last time?
1297
01:12:54.078 --> 01:12:55.037
Not much.
1298
01:12:55.871 --> 01:12:56.747
Okay.
1299
01:12:56.747 --> 01:12:57.956
When you mean not much,
1300
01:12:57.956 --> 01:12:59.500
what do you mean by not much?
1301
01:12:59.500 --> 01:13:03.337
Uh, I mean nothing really major
or noticeable--
1302
01:13:03.337 --> 01:13:05.964
or noticeable
other than traveling happened.
1303
01:13:07.591 --> 01:13:10.094
All right, have you been wearing
your Myobrace much?
1304
01:13:10.094 --> 01:13:11.553
Uh, no.
1305
01:13:11.553 --> 01:13:13.222
What about the chewing gum?
1306
01:13:13.222 --> 01:13:15.432
I did a bit on some airplanes.
1307
01:13:15.432 --> 01:13:18.685
Have you been working on trying
to improve your posture?
1308
01:13:18.685 --> 01:13:19.728
A little bit.
1309
01:13:19.728 --> 01:13:21.355
But you've not really done anything?
1310
01:13:21.355 --> 01:13:23.065
- No.
- Okay.
1311
01:13:24.817 --> 01:13:26.527
Wider. Close a little bit.
1312
01:13:30.447 --> 01:13:31.990
You gave me the distinct impression
1313
01:13:31.990 --> 01:13:34.076
that you didn't want
to do any more treatment
1314
01:13:34.076 --> 01:13:35.369
the last time I talked to you.
1315
01:13:35.369 --> 01:13:36.662
I have no recollection
1316
01:13:36.662 --> 01:13:37.704
- of the last conversation.
- Yeah.
1317
01:13:37.704 --> 01:13:38.664
Well, I make notes.
1318
01:13:40.332 --> 01:13:41.875
Orthotropics is completely--
1319
01:13:41.875 --> 01:13:45.838
it's completely compliance-dependent.
1320
01:13:45.838 --> 01:13:49.133
And I'm treating most people
who have no real idea of the benefit
1321
01:13:49.133 --> 01:13:50.384
they're gonna gain from this.
1322
01:13:50.384 --> 01:13:52.761
They don't realize that this is probably
1323
01:13:52.761 --> 01:13:58.058
one of the most important things
they're ever, ever going to do.
1324
01:13:58.058 --> 01:14:00.477
And they can't be bothered
to wear the brace in the afternoons.
1325
01:14:02.646 --> 01:14:05.732
Adam, if you could commit
to chewing gum...
1326
01:14:07.067 --> 01:14:09.278
It's hard to find a steady supply
of certain gum
1327
01:14:09.278 --> 01:14:10.404
- No, no--
- at the moment.
1328
01:14:10.404 --> 01:14:12.489
- Just a minute, I will--
- Say what really you've been--
1329
01:14:12.489 --> 01:14:14.366
Don't worry about the logistics, Adam.
1330
01:14:14.366 --> 01:14:15.325
Okay.
1331
01:14:15.325 --> 01:14:17.744
Think about what would be
the desired outcome.
1332
01:14:17.744 --> 01:14:18.704
All right.
1333
01:14:20.914 --> 01:14:22.082
Thank you, sir.
1334
01:14:22.082 --> 01:14:23.709
Work hard.
1335
01:14:23.709 --> 01:14:24.710
Get back in the Myobrace.
1336
01:14:24.710 --> 01:14:26.211
- Let's talk in two weeks' time.
- Okay.
1337
01:14:26.211 --> 01:14:28.046
All right? Okay. Thank you very much.
1338
01:14:28.046 --> 01:14:29.173
For once, I found someone
1339
01:14:29.173 --> 01:14:32.050
that doesn't squeeze my hand too hard.
1340
01:14:32.050 --> 01:14:33.385
That wasn't too hard, was it?
1341
01:14:33.385 --> 01:14:34.678
No, he's saying that it's the first time--
1342
01:14:34.678 --> 01:14:36.180
For once I found someone.
1343
01:14:36.180 --> 01:14:37.681
- Okay.
- Yeah.
1344
01:14:37.681 --> 01:14:38.765
So thank you.
1345
01:14:38.765 --> 01:14:40.100
- Take care.
- Bye.
1346
01:14:49.776 --> 01:14:52.613
I have no musical training,
no musical background,
1347
01:14:52.613 --> 01:14:56.074
no ability to sing.
1348
01:14:56.074 --> 01:14:58.285
I picked up my child's ukulele,
1349
01:14:58.285 --> 01:15:01.413
and suddenly, music started
to flow into me.
1350
01:15:03.957 --> 01:15:06.293
And I wrote this song called "The Lies."
1351
01:15:06.293 --> 01:15:08.253
It's seven minutes long.
1352
01:15:30.400 --> 01:15:36.406
♪ Water isn't H20 ♪
1353
01:15:37.157 --> 01:15:42.162
♪ It's a story you've been told ♪
1354
01:15:42.162 --> 01:15:48.252
♪ What is truth and how do you know ♪
1355
01:15:48.252 --> 01:15:52.631
♪ Who's telling those lies ♪
1356
01:15:52.631 --> 01:15:58.136
♪ History, history ♪
1357
01:15:58.804 --> 01:16:03.267
♪ It's a trickster's symphony ♪
1358
01:16:03.267 --> 01:16:08.438
♪ Rockefeller, medicine
And orthodontics too ♪
1359
01:16:08.438 --> 01:16:13.360
♪ Carefully designed
To keep disease in you ♪
1360
01:16:13.360 --> 01:16:18.991
♪ If you won't see
When you're being fooled ♪
1361
01:16:18.991 --> 01:16:24.329
♪ Parasites over you will rule ♪
1362
01:16:24.329 --> 01:16:29.668
♪ Ooh, the lies we've been sold ♪
1363
01:16:29.668 --> 01:16:35.590
♪ Re-examine everything you're told ♪
1364
01:16:46.101 --> 01:16:47.769
Whoa, this trial. I mean, you know--
1365
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:50.314
You know, I should be
clinically depressed.
1366
01:16:50.314 --> 01:16:52.232
Whoa, whoa. Over the top.
1367
01:16:52.232 --> 01:16:54.026
The reason I'm not
is 'cause I'm on a mission.
1368
01:16:54.026 --> 01:16:55.611
We're now two months away.
1369
01:16:55.611 --> 01:16:57.571
And I'm agitated-- I go to bed agitated.
1370
01:16:57.571 --> 01:16:59.615
I wake up in the middle
of the night agitated.
1371
01:16:59.615 --> 01:17:01.950
And I've got so much to do
that I haven't done yet,
1372
01:17:01.950 --> 01:17:03.785
you know, just mountains of work.
1373
01:17:03.785 --> 01:17:05.537 line:5%
Let's break up tasks.
Then I can sit and get on.
1374
01:17:05.537 --> 01:17:06.955 line:5%
Yeah, so that's the one thing.
1375
01:17:06.955 --> 01:17:08.874 line:5%
Because I'll need some quiet time
for me to get on with.
1376
01:17:08.874 --> 01:17:11.126 line:5%
I would have liked to be
so much further ahead.
1377
01:17:11.126 --> 01:17:13.795
I would have liked to have
so much more media engagement.
1378
01:17:13.795 --> 01:17:15.964
I've gotta increase the web presence
as much as possible.
1379
01:17:15.964 --> 01:17:19.760
And I'm just so behind
where I wanted to be.
1380
01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:22.429
You know, having to phone Dianne up
and plan the video we're gonna do.
1381
01:17:22.429 --> 01:17:25.307
And it--it's really hard.
1382
01:17:25.307 --> 01:17:28.268
How's about, shall go see
if I can watch those two videos?
1383
01:17:28.268 --> 01:17:29.394
Yes.
1384
01:17:29.394 --> 01:17:30.687
That might be the best thing.
1385
01:17:30.687 --> 01:17:32.397
Okay, let me watch.
1386
01:17:32.397 --> 01:17:34.274
- Before tomorrow--
- I would have joined in
1387
01:17:34.274 --> 01:17:35.692
if I'd known there was a discussion.
1388
01:17:35.692 --> 01:17:37.444
- It doesn't matter.
- Yes.
1389
01:17:37.444 --> 01:17:40.238
Lots of points I would
have liked to have made.
1390
01:17:40.238 --> 01:17:41.615
But there's always a discussion.
1391
01:17:41.615 --> 01:17:43.492
- Always a discussion.
- Nobody tells me anything.
1392
01:17:43.492 --> 01:17:45.327
You've got the family you have
1393
01:17:45.327 --> 01:17:47.037
and then the family you choose.
1394
01:17:47.037 --> 01:17:50.624
And we kind of chose the Mews.
And I think that's mutual.
1395
01:17:50.624 --> 01:17:52.834
So yeah, that's a good feeling.
1396
01:17:52.834 --> 01:17:55.128 line:5%
I want a real glamour shot, yeah.
1397
01:17:55.128 --> 01:17:57.381 line:5%
Yeah, I'd like to have
a real glamour shot
1398
01:17:57.381 --> 01:17:59.007 line:5%
of the two of you,
and Bill in the background.
1399
01:17:59.007 --> 01:18:00.133 line:5%
- I'll lean forward.
- How's my jaw?
1400
01:18:00.133 --> 01:18:01.343
- Then it will be bigger.
- Yeah.
1401
01:18:01.343 --> 01:18:03.053
We live in Broek in Waterland,
1402
01:18:03.053 --> 01:18:05.722
which is a very small town near Amsterdam.
1403
01:18:05.722 --> 01:18:07.349
And I've got this receded chin.
1404
01:18:07.349 --> 01:18:08.809
And I always thought, "Well, you know,
1405
01:18:08.809 --> 01:18:10.727
that's just genetics
you don't know about."
1406
01:18:10.727 --> 01:18:14.231
But I think it was somewhere on Facebook
that somebody posted something like,
1407
01:18:14.231 --> 01:18:17.484
"You have to see this video
because it will change your life forever."
1408
01:18:17.484 --> 01:18:18.819
I was like, "Yeah, right."
1409
01:18:18.819 --> 01:18:21.071
But that was a video by Mike
1410
01:18:21.071 --> 01:18:23.615
doing the 21st Century Man convention.
1411
01:18:23.615 --> 01:18:26.576
And he was talking about all these things.
And then everything clicked.
1412
01:18:26.576 --> 01:18:28.412
It's like, "Oh, I've got this.
I've got this.
1413
01:18:28.412 --> 01:18:29.871
I've got this. I've got this."
1414
01:18:29.871 --> 01:18:33.291
And then one day, he asked for people
1415
01:18:33.291 --> 01:18:35.627
to come help with his YouTube channel.
1416
01:18:35.627 --> 01:18:38.171
And I thought,
"Why don't just drop this man
1417
01:18:38.171 --> 01:18:40.424
a letter or email?"
1418
01:18:40.424 --> 01:18:43.969
He said, "Yeah, well, I'm in a castle
next weekend with my family.
1419
01:18:43.969 --> 01:18:45.429
Do you want to come over?"
1420
01:18:45.429 --> 01:18:49.766
And we're like, "That's kind of weird,
but just let's-- let's go."
1421
01:18:49.766 --> 01:18:51.476
Let's-- You know, I've got twin boys.
1422
01:18:51.476 --> 01:18:55.313
Let's just go to England
and meet this YouTube guy
1423
01:18:55.313 --> 01:18:56.481
and see if we can help.
1424
01:19:00.485 --> 01:19:03.363
We were coming down here,
and we saw the castle,
1425
01:19:03.363 --> 01:19:05.449
and it just felt unreal.
1426
01:19:13.373 --> 01:19:16.293
It felt like we were welcomed
in some kind of Italian family.
1427
01:19:16.293 --> 01:19:18.795
And it clicked, just clicked.
1428
01:19:21.423 --> 01:19:26.720
I do think Mike
changes life for some, as he did mine.
1429
01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:30.932
To some of the Mews,
he's like the new god and messiah.
1430
01:19:30.932 --> 01:19:33.727
Well, maybe he is. Who knows?
1431
01:19:33.727 --> 01:19:38.190
For him, he's just
trying to do his best, like Jesus was.
1432
01:19:39.691 --> 01:19:41.359
We're gonna talk about--
the video we're gonna do now.
1433
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:42.861
- Oh, yeah, let's go upstairs.
- Okay?
1434
01:19:42.861 --> 01:19:45.530
Wait, wait, just a little bit of planning.
So we're gonna go upstairs
1435
01:19:45.530 --> 01:19:47.699
and we're gonna start
by saying that we need
1436
01:19:47.699 --> 01:19:50.535
more nuance to the idea of beauty.
1437
01:19:51.953 --> 01:19:54.790
Don't respond just yet.
Just wait until we're upstairs.
1438
01:19:54.790 --> 01:19:57.292
- I can do that, all right.
- Okay.
1439
01:19:57.292 --> 01:19:58.960
We should do.
1440
01:20:00.253 --> 01:20:02.422
No, no, no. That's just the way it is.
1441
01:20:02.422 --> 01:20:03.465
We're YouTubers.
1442
01:20:05.592 --> 01:20:08.678
I'm just trying to quickly
1443
01:20:08.678 --> 01:20:11.681
put together
a PowerPoint presentation as we speak.
1444
01:20:11.681 --> 01:20:14.434
- It sounds a bit late for all that.
- Well, yeah--
1445
01:20:14.434 --> 01:20:16.436
Don't we just want to chat?
1446
01:20:16.436 --> 01:20:18.855
Okay, we're ready to go.
1447
01:20:25.862 --> 01:20:27.239
Hi, and welcome.
1448
01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:28.532
I'm sitting with my father,
1449
01:20:28.532 --> 01:20:30.158 line:5%
and today we're gonna talk about
1450
01:20:30.158 --> 01:20:34.996 line:5%
some more nuances to facial attractiveness
than just a square face.
1451
01:20:34.996 --> 01:20:38.041
So, Dad, I've got an image here.
1452
01:20:38.041 --> 01:20:42.254
These people had physically
better facial form
1453
01:20:42.254 --> 01:20:43.839
from a health perspective.
1454
01:20:43.839 --> 01:20:46.049
I look at those faces,
1455
01:20:46.049 --> 01:20:48.176
and they don't terribly appeal to me.
1456
01:20:48.176 --> 01:20:51.471
I'm always attracted
to dimples in the cheeks
1457
01:20:51.471 --> 01:20:53.306
and there are very few there.
1458
01:20:53.306 --> 01:20:55.225
Remember-- Sorry--
1459
01:20:55.225 --> 01:20:56.434
Remember to look at the camera.
1460
01:20:56.434 --> 01:20:59.020
Well, I'm talking to the interviewer.
1461
01:20:59.020 --> 01:21:01.439
If I have to talk about anything,
1462
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:04.317
I find it very difficult
to be directed on this.
1463
01:21:04.317 --> 01:21:05.569
So we need to be--
1464
01:21:05.569 --> 01:21:07.779
And I can see all sorts
of difficulties already.
1465
01:21:07.779 --> 01:21:09.656
But that's what we want to discuss.
1466
01:21:09.656 --> 01:21:11.366
Yes, I've got very specific ideas.
1467
01:21:11.366 --> 01:21:12.951
- Fine, first of all, we--
- Absolutely.
1468
01:21:12.951 --> 01:21:15.203
First of all-- Wait.
1469
01:21:15.203 --> 01:21:16.413
This is Rubens.
1470
01:21:16.413 --> 01:21:17.664
Many times.
1471
01:21:17.664 --> 01:21:19.165
Many times, it's not a new one.
1472
01:21:19.165 --> 01:21:20.667
- Yes. No.
- At the time,
1473
01:21:20.667 --> 01:21:22.127
this is what was considered attractive.
1474
01:21:22.127 --> 01:21:24.087
That time, there's no doubt
1475
01:21:24.087 --> 01:21:26.256
that fat people were considered,
1476
01:21:27.549 --> 01:21:30.760
shall I say, more attractive,
more appealing,
1477
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:33.054
I think, would perhaps a better word.
1478
01:21:33.054 --> 01:21:34.431
And then, of course, we've moved on
1479
01:21:34.431 --> 01:21:36.975
to this era of these
incredibly thin models.
1480
01:21:36.975 --> 01:21:39.644
Yes. I have always preferred
1481
01:21:39.644 --> 01:21:44.566
the 38", 22", 36" shape myself.
1482
01:21:44.566 --> 01:21:48.320
And I actually think that's probably
a little bit more natural.
1483
01:21:48.320 --> 01:21:52.282
And looking at our ancestors
of 20,000 years ago,
1484
01:21:52.282 --> 01:21:54.826
they hardly had any such mouths.
1485
01:21:54.826 --> 01:21:56.870
Now they're relatively common.
1486
01:21:56.870 --> 01:21:58.538
I've not seen research on that.
1487
01:21:58.538 --> 01:22:02.417
No. No, nor have I.
1488
01:22:02.417 --> 01:22:04.836
So you've just--
1489
01:22:04.836 --> 01:22:08.465
Remember, I am someone
who is a lateral thinker.
1490
01:22:08.465 --> 01:22:09.758
Yeah, yeah, I--
1491
01:22:09.758 --> 01:22:11.718
And I have very little science.
1492
01:22:11.718 --> 01:22:13.803
- It's mostly logic.
- But--but--
1493
01:22:13.803 --> 01:22:17.515
I mean, my biggest problem
often is my father.
1494
01:22:18.516 --> 01:22:21.353
I'm certain that, to some extent,
1495
01:22:21.353 --> 01:22:24.147
my father stands in the way
of his own legacy
1496
01:22:24.147 --> 01:22:27.192
by being so pigheaded and obstinate.
1497
01:22:27.192 --> 01:22:28.443
- All right.
- Thank you for watching.
1498
01:22:28.443 --> 01:22:29.986
Thank you very much for watching.
1499
01:22:29.986 --> 01:22:31.780
- I'll see you next time.
- See you next time.
1500
01:22:32.656 --> 01:22:34.699
Thank you very much for watching.
See you next time.
1501
01:22:34.699 --> 01:22:36.534
Uh, something--
1502
01:22:36.534 --> 01:22:38.703
Yeah, you need editing.
But that's, uh-- Yeah.
1503
01:22:38.703 --> 01:22:40.330
You know, well,
they say you should never work
1504
01:22:40.330 --> 01:22:43.375
with animals and children or your father.
1505
01:22:47.629 --> 01:22:50.423
Okay, let's just get
a little bit more around your ears here.
1506
01:22:53.009 --> 01:22:55.387
Try not to cut your
hearing aid off, though, eh?
1507
01:23:04.396 --> 01:23:06.189
There you go, Popsies.
1508
01:23:07.023 --> 01:23:08.400
- Beautiful.
- Right, thank you.
1509
01:23:08.400 --> 01:23:10.527
Don't leave me over here.
1510
01:23:10.527 --> 01:23:12.904
Okay, hang on. I'm coming back.
I'm coming.
1511
01:23:14.781 --> 01:23:18.451
Well, unfortunately, the years count on.
1512
01:23:18.451 --> 01:23:22.706
And nowadays,
almost all my friends have died.
1513
01:23:22.706 --> 01:23:26.751
I must say that my friends
that died when they were young
1514
01:23:26.751 --> 01:23:29.337
had fantastic funerals.
1515
01:23:29.337 --> 01:23:33.091
But when I die, there's going--
Nobody's going to be there.
1516
01:23:33.091 --> 01:23:34.467
Don't worry about that, Dad. I--
1517
01:23:34.467 --> 01:23:35.927
I have--
1518
01:23:35.927 --> 01:23:38.847
- You'll make sure it's a good send-off.
- I'll make sure you get a good send-off.
1519
01:23:38.847 --> 01:23:41.975
Right, with lots of alcohol.
1520
01:23:41.975 --> 01:23:44.018
With lots of-- Yes, yes,
shame I don't drink anymore.
1521
01:23:44.018 --> 01:23:46.354
Yes, let's have a bloody good party.
1522
01:23:47.647 --> 01:23:50.608
- Mike, for your campaign website...
- Yes?
1523
01:23:50.608 --> 01:23:52.902
- When does it need to be live?
- Thursday.
1524
01:23:52.902 --> 01:23:54.654
What's happening on Thursday?
1525
01:23:54.654 --> 01:23:57.032
Thursday, I'm gonna dress up
as Martin Luther.
1526
01:23:57.032 --> 01:23:58.950
Are you? How wonderful.
1527
01:23:58.950 --> 01:24:01.870
So then I'm gonna go in.
I'm gonna hammer my ten principles
1528
01:24:01.870 --> 01:24:03.580
to the door of the GDC.
1529
01:24:03.580 --> 01:24:06.875
Can I just inquire, why--
why Martin Luther King?
1530
01:24:06.875 --> 01:24:08.877
It's not Martin Luther King.
It's Martin Luther.
1531
01:24:08.877 --> 01:24:11.963
Martin Luther was
a Protestant who nailed--
1532
01:24:11.963 --> 01:24:15.800
Rosie, there's no--
there's no flame under this chorizo.
1533
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:17.886
Yes, I just turned it off
'cause I'm not quite ready.
1534
01:24:17.886 --> 01:24:20.096
Okay. All right.
1535
01:24:20.096 --> 01:24:23.308
So he set out Protestant principles
1536
01:24:23.308 --> 01:24:25.143
against the Catholic Church.
1537
01:24:25.143 --> 01:24:26.102
Right.
1538
01:24:26.102 --> 01:24:27.812
But he started
the Protestant church, basically.
1539
01:24:27.812 --> 01:24:29.647
And how do you dress as Martin Luther?
1540
01:24:29.647 --> 01:24:30.732
- I don't know.
- What does that--
1541
01:24:30.732 --> 01:24:31.733
what does a Protestant look like?
1542
01:24:31.733 --> 01:24:33.735
- Have you sorted out a costume?
- Have you got a costume?
1543
01:24:33.735 --> 01:24:34.736
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1544
01:24:34.736 --> 01:24:36.905
Remember, the Germans
1545
01:24:36.905 --> 01:24:39.324
wore different clothes than the English.
1546
01:24:40.158 --> 01:24:42.285
I'm not sure about the--
1547
01:24:42.285 --> 01:24:44.662
I'm not sure about
the historical accuracy.
1548
01:24:44.662 --> 01:24:46.998
Are you very worried
1549
01:24:46.998 --> 01:24:48.792
that the orthodontic establishment
1550
01:24:48.792 --> 01:24:51.085
will have you up on inaccurate dress?
1551
01:24:51.085 --> 01:24:52.295
Yeah, I don't know.
1552
01:24:52.295 --> 01:24:55.173
I think damage to the door
might be top of their priority.
1553
01:24:56.633 --> 01:24:58.259
But you could just hammer--
1554
01:24:58.259 --> 01:25:00.220
How long has that asparagus been on?
1555
01:25:00.220 --> 01:25:02.305
It's got one minute, 18 to go.
1556
01:25:02.305 --> 01:25:03.973
Mike, I do mean this.
1557
01:25:03.973 --> 01:25:07.435
You need to have
a proper document drawn up
1558
01:25:07.435 --> 01:25:12.774
with the capital letters
in gold trimmed with red.
1559
01:25:12.774 --> 01:25:15.068
Right. Did you get that, Mike?
1560
01:25:15.068 --> 01:25:16.027
- It's very important.
- Way beyond
1561
01:25:16.027 --> 01:25:18.404
my calligraphy skills, so yes,
1562
01:25:18.404 --> 01:25:21.032
it'll be one of those days
where it'll all work out on the day.
1563
01:25:21.032 --> 01:25:22.617
Let's not worry too much about it.
1564
01:25:28.540 --> 01:25:31.042
Dr. Mew is obviously
a real character.
1565
01:25:31.042 --> 01:25:34.462
He's quite eccentric,
which I don't mind at all.
1566
01:25:34.462 --> 01:25:38.091
But we have to pull back
from being a bit crazy,
1567
01:25:38.091 --> 01:25:42.512
because there is a fine balance
between an eccentric professor type
1568
01:25:42.512 --> 01:25:44.305
and someone who's a bit crazy.
1569
01:25:44.305 --> 01:25:46.474
And to dress up as Martin Luther
1570
01:25:46.474 --> 01:25:50.061
would just be a sort of
a flippant thing to do.
1571
01:25:50.061 --> 01:25:55.191
And when you're going into
the GDC in a few months' time,
1572
01:25:55.191 --> 01:25:57.152
you don't want to walk past
their front door
1573
01:25:57.152 --> 01:26:01.281
with the nail marks in it
from where you pinned your request.
1574
01:26:01.281 --> 01:26:03.241
It just doesn't--
I can't see how it helps.
1575
01:26:03.241 --> 01:26:05.368
So I just said to him
I thought it was crazy
1576
01:26:05.368 --> 01:26:06.953
and not to do it,
1577
01:26:06.953 --> 01:26:08.872
and I would expect him
to follow my advice.
1578
01:26:38.026 --> 01:26:39.569
I got my...
1579
01:27:00.548 --> 01:27:05.303
Roughly a decade ago,
my father stood at this very spot
1580
01:27:05.303 --> 01:27:06.721
with a sandwich board
1581
01:27:07.472 --> 01:27:11.559
trying to raise awareness
of basically the same issues.
1582
01:27:12.810 --> 01:27:16.022
And, yeah, it didn't get anywhere.
1583
01:27:18.775 --> 01:27:21.194
And half of the reason I'm pushing so hard
1584
01:27:21.194 --> 01:27:24.113
is to gain him some recognition
1585
01:27:24.113 --> 01:27:28.159
while he's still capable
of appreciating it.
1586
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.754 line:5%
So here's my statement
to the world, to the GDC.
1587
01:27:39.754 --> 01:27:41.965
"For too long, our concerns
1588
01:27:41.965 --> 01:27:45.635
have not been heard or debated.
1589
01:27:45.635 --> 01:27:48.096
My speciality was becoming
1590
01:27:48.096 --> 01:27:50.473
more of a religion than a science.
1591
01:27:50.473 --> 01:27:53.434
We want the truth, the whole truth,
and no dogma."
1592
01:27:53.434 --> 01:27:57.772
I've signed this Martin Luther Mew.
1593
01:27:57.772 --> 01:28:00.358
And I was going to nail
1594
01:28:00.358 --> 01:28:03.695
one of these statements to the front door,
1595
01:28:03.695 --> 01:28:08.324
but I'm just cautious of imagery
that could be used to defame me.
1596
01:28:08.324 --> 01:28:11.035
Now I've gotta play the game, you know?
I've got to win this.
1597
01:28:11.035 --> 01:28:13.538
I've got to win this for everyone.
I've gotta win this.
1598
01:28:14.914 --> 01:28:16.582
I worry the slight pressure
1599
01:28:16.582 --> 01:28:18.710
that Dad's putting on Mike,
1600
01:28:18.710 --> 01:28:22.380
not in a nasty way, but just,
"We're almost there,
1601
01:28:22.380 --> 01:28:23.798
we're almost there, we're almost there.
1602
01:28:23.798 --> 01:28:25.633
If we just, if we just, if we just."
1603
01:28:25.633 --> 01:28:30.179
So it's like this
massive drive at the moment.
1604
01:28:30.179 --> 01:28:35.059
I think Michael is almost more driven
or more focused than Dad.
1605
01:28:35.059 --> 01:28:39.063
Dad-- I mean, Dad has done everything
1606
01:28:39.063 --> 01:28:41.190
and been everywhere.
1607
01:28:41.190 --> 01:28:43.318
If I was to die and be reincarnated
1608
01:28:43.318 --> 01:28:46.487
as anyone in the world,
I would come back as Dad.
1609
01:28:46.487 --> 01:28:47.572
Sorry.
1610
01:28:47.572 --> 01:28:49.032
'Cause he's done-- he's done--
1611
01:28:49.032 --> 01:28:51.909
- He has.
- I know you have. I know.
1612
01:28:51.909 --> 01:28:54.162
But his life, not your life, his life.
1613
01:28:54.162 --> 01:28:55.913
- Michael, I worry about him
- I'd just be
1614
01:28:55.913 --> 01:28:57.123
- slightly because he is...
- an absolute--
1615
01:28:57.123 --> 01:28:58.249
There's no point.
1616
01:28:58.249 --> 01:29:00.793
...totally insanely focused
on orthotropics
1617
01:29:00.793 --> 01:29:02.253
and has nothing outside of it.
1618
01:29:02.253 --> 01:29:03.755
- And I think part of it--
- Not nothing.
1619
01:29:03.755 --> 01:29:05.006
Not nothing, no, no, no. But you're--
1620
01:29:05.006 --> 01:29:06.049
Less than I should.
1621
01:29:06.049 --> 01:29:07.717
You're 80%.
1622
01:29:12.972 --> 01:29:15.850
- I mean, he's lived it to the full.
- You know, he was a racing car driver.
1623
01:29:15.850 --> 01:29:18.644
He holds records at Brands Hatch.
1624
01:29:18.644 --> 01:29:19.771
He happened to be--
1625
01:29:19.771 --> 01:29:21.522
He says-- He's, like,
the oldest person ever
1626
01:29:21.522 --> 01:29:22.857
- to get their Yachtmasters.
- Yeah.
1627
01:29:22.857 --> 01:29:24.817
- He's, you know--
- Skiing history.
1628
01:29:24.817 --> 01:29:26.277
Jousting.
1629
01:29:26.277 --> 01:29:29.697
On horseback with a large jousting lance.
1630
01:29:29.697 --> 01:29:30.782
Charging at someone else.
1631
01:29:30.782 --> 01:29:32.450
Charging to--
somewhat out of control.
1632
01:29:32.450 --> 01:29:34.118 line:5%
He doesn't ride horses.
1633
01:29:34.118 --> 01:29:36.746
And then he said, "Okay,
we're gonna build a castle.
1634
01:29:36.746 --> 01:29:39.040
Kids, we're gonna build
a castle on an island
1635
01:29:39.040 --> 01:29:40.249
in the middle of a lake."
1636
01:29:40.249 --> 01:29:41.959
And we all went, "Yeah, okay, Dad."
1637
01:29:41.959 --> 01:29:44.170
You know, all our friends
thought we were bonkers,
1638
01:29:44.170 --> 01:29:46.798
- more so, more so than they did before.
- Yeah, yeah.
1639
01:29:48.966 --> 01:29:51.594
But mind you, I sometimes
think him building the castle
1640
01:29:51.594 --> 01:29:53.846
was a little bit like Churchill's war.
1641
01:29:54.847 --> 01:29:55.723
- You know, when--
- Therapeutic.
1642
01:29:55.723 --> 01:29:57.642
Therapeutic, yes.
1643
01:29:57.642 --> 01:29:59.727
It took his mind off--
1644
01:29:59.727 --> 01:30:01.229
the wilderness, yeah, well, he may as well
1645
01:30:01.229 --> 01:30:02.688
- 'cause he has forever.
- Well, I know I think
1646
01:30:02.688 --> 01:30:05.274
he thought that Biobloc and orthotropics
1647
01:30:05.274 --> 01:30:06.818
was going to hit in quicker.
1648
01:30:06.818 --> 01:30:08.820
And he just got so frustrated.
1649
01:30:08.820 --> 01:30:11.364
He said, "I need
something else for a legacy."
1650
01:30:13.157 --> 01:30:17.286
You've learned enough about me
to know that I'm a busy boy.
1651
01:30:17.286 --> 01:30:20.748
I'm always wanting to do something.
1652
01:30:20.748 --> 01:30:22.542
Um...
1653
01:30:22.542 --> 01:30:24.627
it's in Word, I think.
1654
01:30:24.627 --> 01:30:26.295
Well, I'll get it here.
1655
01:30:26.295 --> 01:30:27.839
I'll find it quicker.
1656
01:30:29.590 --> 01:30:30.716
Ah.
1657
01:30:30.716 --> 01:30:33.219
"Thank you so much, Dr. Mew.
1658
01:30:33.219 --> 01:30:36.973
Your study is worth a Nobel Prize.
1659
01:30:36.973 --> 01:30:41.727
It feels so good that
there are still honorable men
1660
01:30:41.727 --> 01:30:46.023
like Dr. Mew and his son Dr. Mike Mew
1661
01:30:46.023 --> 01:30:49.777
in the evil world of dentistry."
That's a bit strong.
1662
01:30:53.114 --> 01:30:55.741
I'll tell you, John Mew's life
1663
01:30:55.741 --> 01:31:00.496
would be infinitely better
and more fulfilled
1664
01:31:00.496 --> 01:31:04.458
if he had the orthodontists of the world
1665
01:31:04.458 --> 01:31:07.628
beating a path to his door and saying,
1666
01:31:07.628 --> 01:31:12.008
"We admire you. We respect you.
You are our guru."
1667
01:31:13.509 --> 01:31:19.056 line:5%
He--he needs respect,
and he needs adulation.
1668
01:31:19.056 --> 01:31:23.227
And I don't think it matters to him
all that much where it comes from
1669
01:31:23.227 --> 01:31:24.896
as long as he gets the adulation.
1670
01:31:26.355 --> 01:31:29.692
However, I think John Mew has, uh...
1671
01:31:31.986 --> 01:31:35.907
Actually done something good,
at long last, in his life.
1672
01:31:35.907 --> 01:31:40.077
He's done something good
by making you interested
1673
01:31:40.077 --> 01:31:42.663
in making this documentary,
1674
01:31:42.663 --> 01:31:44.957
because it brings to the surface
1675
01:31:44.957 --> 01:31:47.376
a number of issues
1676
01:31:47.376 --> 01:31:50.296
which characterize orthodontics.
1677
01:31:52.173 --> 01:31:54.342
Whether it's John Mew doing it
1678
01:31:54.342 --> 01:31:58.429 line:5%
or whether it's the average
good guy orthodontist.
1679
01:31:58.429 --> 01:32:00.848 line:5%
Only those dentists
who successfully complete
1680
01:32:00.848 --> 01:32:02.725
specialist training are entitled
1681
01:32:02.725 --> 01:32:04.143
to call themselves orthodontists.
1682
01:32:05.061 --> 01:32:07.146
And orthodontists understand
tooth movement
1683
01:32:07.146 --> 01:32:09.482
and the guidance of facial development.
1684
01:32:09.482 --> 01:32:12.568
Orthodontists do one thing,
and we do it well.
1685
01:32:12.568 --> 01:32:14.612
Orthodontics has become a business.
1686
01:32:15.905 --> 01:32:18.824
And because orthodontists
have to sell something,
1687
01:32:18.824 --> 01:32:20.409
they fabricate things.
1688
01:32:22.370 --> 01:32:23.579
There are no diseases
1689
01:32:23.579 --> 01:32:27.124
associated with malocclusion
at all-- None.
1690
01:32:31.087 --> 01:32:34.048
But if there is no disease,
what are you measuring?
1691
01:32:34.048 --> 01:32:36.926
It's purely subjective.
It doesn't matter a damn.
1692
01:32:37.927 --> 01:32:41.097
How do the Mews convince people
1693
01:32:41.097 --> 01:32:43.933
that there is some merit in what they say?
1694
01:32:43.933 --> 01:32:48.813
They do it partly by terminology,
by medicalizing orthodontics.
1695
01:32:48.813 --> 01:32:53.567
How many adults are gonna die
ten or 20 years early
1696
01:32:53.567 --> 01:32:55.486
because of craniofacial dystrophy?
1697
01:32:55.486 --> 01:32:57.655
And you're made to feel guilty
1698
01:32:57.655 --> 01:32:59.824
if you don't save your child
1699
01:32:59.824 --> 01:33:02.576 line:5%
from this horrible thing
that they might have
1700
01:33:02.576 --> 01:33:04.245 line:5%
if they don't get the treatment.
1701
01:33:04.245 --> 01:33:06.163 line:5%
To me, you're doing a public service
1702
01:33:06.163 --> 01:33:09.166 line:5%
by exposing these fictions
1703
01:33:09.166 --> 01:33:11.877
which are dressed up as health needs.
1704
01:33:11.877 --> 01:33:14.422
Here we are.
Now put your jaw forward, can you?
1705
01:33:14.422 --> 01:33:15.923
That's right.
1706
01:33:15.923 --> 01:33:17.925
John Mew is not unique.
1707
01:33:17.925 --> 01:33:21.012
What he's doing is just a replication
1708
01:33:21.012 --> 01:33:23.347
of the same shoddy orthodontics.
1709
01:33:23.347 --> 01:33:26.183
I don't care whether he calls it
orthoptics or whatever.
1710
01:33:26.183 --> 01:33:28.394
He is just a continuation
1711
01:33:28.394 --> 01:33:31.063
of what's been going on for more years
1712
01:33:31.063 --> 01:33:33.649
than John Mew has been in orthodontics.
1713
01:33:33.649 --> 01:33:37.153
Orthodontists are simply there
to straighten your teeth,
1714
01:33:37.153 --> 01:33:39.613
make your face look as good as possible,
1715
01:33:39.613 --> 01:33:41.032
and that should be good enough.
1716
01:33:42.074 --> 01:33:44.035
It's just like being a hairdresser.
1717
01:33:44.035 --> 01:33:46.245
I'll hold the mirror.
Now you try that yourself.
1718
01:33:50.207 --> 01:33:51.417
That's right. Now...
1719
01:33:51.417 --> 01:33:53.794
And that's why I think, ultimately,
1720
01:33:53.794 --> 01:33:57.590
orthodontics,
including the Mew phenomenon,
1721
01:33:57.590 --> 01:33:59.675
is destined to die.
1722
01:33:59.675 --> 01:34:02.678
You can fool some
of the people all of the time,
1723
01:34:03.804 --> 01:34:07.224
but you're not going to succeed,
because people see through it.
1724
01:34:08.559 --> 01:34:11.520
It's extraordinary that someone can say
1725
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:14.148
people's face should look like this.
1726
01:34:14.148 --> 01:34:16.317
It's subjective, isn't it?
So how can you define it?
1727
01:34:16.317 --> 01:34:18.319
- Well, it's appalling, really.
- How can you define it?
1728
01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:20.988
- Isn't it? When I think about it.
- The nose to teeth is 38 millimeters.
1729
01:34:20.988 --> 01:34:23.240
Yeah, I mean, how--
1730
01:34:23.240 --> 01:34:27.244
I mean, if he thought that Quentin's face
1731
01:34:27.244 --> 01:34:29.955
could be perfect, and yet he'd be--
1732
01:34:30.956 --> 01:34:33.459
and let Ben go
and have any old treatment--
1733
01:34:33.459 --> 01:34:37.421
But mine was already perfect,
so I didn't need...
1734
01:34:37.421 --> 01:34:38.381
Yeah, but--
1735
01:34:38.381 --> 01:34:40.091
Well, actually,
that's not a bad thing for us,
1736
01:34:40.091 --> 01:34:43.928
'cause we wanted to get to that point
where we had our own identity,
1737
01:34:43.928 --> 01:34:45.930
to get to a point where,
if that is the case
1738
01:34:45.930 --> 01:34:48.432
that John Mew thinks everyone should have
1739
01:34:48.432 --> 01:34:53.187
a set distance between nose line and chin,
1740
01:34:53.187 --> 01:34:55.147
then that eradicates that identity,
1741
01:34:55.147 --> 01:34:59.235
individualism, and-- which is--
1742
01:34:59.235 --> 01:35:01.195
that's gotta be questionable.
1743
01:35:21.799 --> 01:35:23.300
So it's almost time.
1744
01:35:23.300 --> 01:35:26.262
I've gotta head up
to this case at the GDC.
1745
01:35:26.262 --> 01:35:27.721
This is the first day.
1746
01:35:27.721 --> 01:35:31.976
I've already been warned that they want
to consider delaying it.
1747
01:35:31.976 --> 01:35:33.477
What you call it?
Adjourning it for a while.
1748
01:35:33.477 --> 01:35:37.022
It's a disaster for me.
I mean, however, into London we go.
1749
01:35:38.983 --> 01:35:42.153 line:5%
Some orthodontists
are calling Mewing a scam
1750
01:35:42.153 --> 01:35:46.031 line:5%
and trying to revoke his dental license.
1751
01:35:46.031 --> 01:35:49.577 line:5%
So go sign the petition in the link below
1752
01:35:49.577 --> 01:35:52.371 line:5%
to help save Mike Mew's
orthodontic license.
1753
01:35:52.371 --> 01:35:57.668
The buildup to this day
has been at least five years.
1754
01:35:58.502 --> 01:36:02.506
Zarina was one year old when this started.
1755
01:36:02.506 --> 01:36:06.177
She's now six, so most of her life.
1756
01:36:15.394 --> 01:36:18.898 line:5%
Dr. Mew, thank you for agreeing
to join me on JawHacks
1757
01:36:18.898 --> 01:36:21.317 line:5%
to discuss your situation.
1758
01:36:21.317 --> 01:36:22.985 line:5%
You are going up against what seems to be
1759
01:36:22.985 --> 01:36:24.778 line:5%
this tidal wave of orthodontists.
1760
01:36:24.778 --> 01:36:26.947
It's almost like a kind
of information warfare
1761
01:36:26.947 --> 01:36:27.907
that they're levying against you,
1762
01:36:27.907 --> 01:36:31.160
and I can see that it's put you
1763
01:36:31.160 --> 01:36:32.953
at a great amount of distress.
1764
01:36:32.953 --> 01:36:37.166
Now, do you think if you had
never become a YouTube legend
1765
01:36:37.166 --> 01:36:39.251
with your ideas that have, quite frankly,
1766
01:36:39.251 --> 01:36:42.004
lifted so many young people
up out of despair,
1767
01:36:42.004 --> 01:36:44.381
would you have been spared the gauntlet?
1768
01:36:44.381 --> 01:36:45.674
Uh, with no question.
1769
01:36:49.970 --> 01:36:52.973
I'm really surprised
how much it's affected my wife.
1770
01:36:52.973 --> 01:36:54.725
This morning, she didn't want
to get out of bed.
1771
01:36:54.725 --> 01:36:56.101
She didn't want to come downstairs.
1772
01:36:56.101 --> 01:37:00.147
She was... depressed.
1773
01:37:00.147 --> 01:37:01.690
How else do I say it?
1774
01:37:02.900 --> 01:37:04.777
Well, you've started
the revolution already.
1775
01:37:04.777 --> 01:37:07.279
There's already a whole
generation of young people
1776
01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:09.990
out there who are looking
to take the candle,
1777
01:37:09.990 --> 01:37:11.700
- take the torch and run with it.
- Yeah.
1778
01:37:11.700 --> 01:37:14.370
When's this whole legal mess
gonna be over, Mike?
1779
01:37:14.370 --> 01:37:16.622
It runs for four weeks.
1780
01:37:16.622 --> 01:37:18.749
Murder cases are only usually two weeks.
1781
01:37:22.836 --> 01:37:24.213 line:5%
It's nice to see you in the light.
1782
01:37:24.213 --> 01:37:26.340 line:5%
You feel real.
1783
01:37:26.340 --> 01:37:28.717 line:5%
- We met, though?
- No.
1784
01:37:28.717 --> 01:37:31.512
Three people are going
to decide my fate.
1785
01:37:34.557 --> 01:37:37.142
And I feel they're gonna decide
1786
01:37:37.142 --> 01:37:42.106
the fate of the health
of the people of the planet.
1787
01:37:42.106 --> 01:37:45.109
- I'm here for the case of Mew.
- Yes.
1788
01:38:31.572 --> 01:38:33.365
John Mew speaking.
1789
01:38:33.365 --> 01:38:36.160
- Dad, it's Mike.
- Yes, Mike.
1790
01:38:36.160 --> 01:38:38.579
So what's happening is
1791
01:38:38.579 --> 01:38:40.164
that they're gonna delay it.
1792
01:38:43.167 --> 01:38:45.502
You know, I wish we could be
further along the line.
1793
01:38:45.502 --> 01:38:47.671
I wish we could have got this further,
1794
01:38:47.671 --> 01:38:53.218
but... it is what it is.
1795
01:38:53.218 --> 01:38:56.055
And I'm in this place.
And there's no closure.
1796
01:38:56.055 --> 01:39:00.392
And... it's not an ideal scenario.
1797
01:39:05.689 --> 01:39:11.195
As you know, the GDC made
an application to adjourn.
1798
01:39:11.195 --> 01:39:13.864
But so look, Mike. That's where we are.
1799
01:39:13.864 --> 01:39:15.032
What's going to happen
1800
01:39:15.032 --> 01:39:17.368
throughout the rest
of the year, unfortunately,
1801
01:39:17.368 --> 01:39:18.911
is I suspect that when they're done
1802
01:39:18.911 --> 01:39:22.665
going back for two,
maybe even three tranches
1803
01:39:22.665 --> 01:39:25.834
of two or three weeks spread out
1804
01:39:25.834 --> 01:39:29.421
over probably a few months in the year.
1805
01:39:29.421 --> 01:39:32.841
How long-- What's the worst-case scenario?
Spread out of six months?
1806
01:39:32.841 --> 01:39:36.887
Um, no, worst case scenario,
maybe spread out over 12 months.
1807
01:39:41.517 --> 01:39:43.477
Yeah. Yeah.
1808
01:39:43.477 --> 01:39:45.270
Yeah. Okay. [clears throat] Okay.
1809
01:39:46.188 --> 01:39:47.815
What today's been about is waiting,
1810
01:39:47.815 --> 01:39:50.234
waiting on other people
to make these decisions about your life.
1811
01:39:50.234 --> 01:39:52.319
And it's excruciating.
1812
01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:56.990
You know, it really-- It's painful.
1813
01:39:57.783 --> 01:39:59.952
At no point has my father ever had
1814
01:39:59.952 --> 01:40:02.830
any proper formal engagement
on his ideas and theories.
1815
01:40:04.915 --> 01:40:06.667
I mean, how much longer can he hang on?
1816
01:40:06.667 --> 01:40:08.877
He's still, you know--
I think the only reason
1817
01:40:08.877 --> 01:40:11.463
he's still mentally just there
1818
01:40:11.463 --> 01:40:13.257
is because this is going somewhere.
1819
01:40:14.591 --> 01:40:16.719
And if he doesn't get to see
the end of this court call,
1820
01:40:16.719 --> 01:40:18.345
I will lose my temper.
1821
01:40:18.345 --> 01:40:20.389
I will never forgive.
1822
01:40:21.557 --> 01:40:22.683
That would just...
1823
01:40:53.005 --> 01:40:54.506
- Hey, Mum.
- Hi, lovely.
1824
01:40:54.506 --> 01:40:55.716
- I'll take that.
- Hey, gorgeous.
1825
01:40:55.716 --> 01:40:57.259
Yeah, you can carry that for me.
1826
01:40:57.259 --> 01:41:00.053
Hello. Hello.
1827
01:41:00.053 --> 01:41:01.305
Hello, lovely.
1828
01:41:01.305 --> 01:41:03.599
- Oh, just put it here, darling.
- Lovely.
1829
01:41:03.599 --> 01:41:04.975
Thanks, darling, that's perfect.
1830
01:41:04.975 --> 01:41:06.852
Hello, birthday boy.
1831
01:41:06.852 --> 01:41:11.064
Hello, sweetheart.
Why is it that sound is working full on?
1832
01:41:11.064 --> 01:41:14.568
Oh. Hello. Hello, darling daughter.
1833
01:41:14.568 --> 01:41:15.778
I don't know, Dad.
1834
01:41:15.778 --> 01:41:17.488
Actually, that's quite a good video,
1835
01:41:17.488 --> 01:41:19.531
even if I say so myself.
1836
01:41:19.531 --> 01:41:21.617
The queen's going through
Edinburgh at the moment.
1837
01:41:21.617 --> 01:41:24.912
Coffin's now arrived in Holyrood.
1838
01:41:26.705 --> 01:41:28.457
I think Charles
will be an amazing king,
1839
01:41:28.457 --> 01:41:30.584
but unfortunately, he's not her.
1840
01:41:30.584 --> 01:41:32.920
His ears stick out
and his face has swung down.
1841
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:35.380
Oh, well, Michael, you can't
put it all down to facial form.
1842
01:41:35.380 --> 01:41:38.217
Sorry, Charles has a big problem.
His face didn't grow well.
1843
01:41:38.217 --> 01:41:40.344
Well, I don't think
you can blame it all on that.
1844
01:41:40.344 --> 01:41:44.223
I think he didn't choose well
in his marriage.
1845
01:41:44.223 --> 01:41:46.350
For love, I think Diana
was an amazing person,
1846
01:41:46.350 --> 01:41:47.935
but I think, unfortunately,
they weren't a good--
1847
01:41:47.935 --> 01:41:50.270
- But she was pretty, and he wasn't.
- They weren't a good match.
1848
01:41:50.270 --> 01:41:52.731
Yeah, I don't think--
You can't put it all down to aesthetics.
1849
01:41:52.731 --> 01:41:53.774
Dad. Dad.
1850
01:41:53.774 --> 01:41:56.985
Oh, my goodness, you're so fast.
1851
01:41:56.985 --> 01:42:00.614
Hey, Dad, Dad, have you been
watching Jessica's face?
1852
01:42:00.614 --> 01:42:02.324
- Have you noticed--
- Her face?
1853
01:42:02.324 --> 01:42:04.117
Have you noticed her face
has come along lots
1854
01:42:04.117 --> 01:42:05.285
in the last six months?
1855
01:42:05.285 --> 01:42:09.164
I notice her all the time.
And yes, I do think.
1856
01:42:09.164 --> 01:42:12.459
What has really helped
is lip taping at night
1857
01:42:12.459 --> 01:42:14.586
- and all the gum chewing.
- Yeah, I'm sure.
1858
01:42:14.586 --> 01:42:17.506
I'm still thinking,
what is her indicator line?
1859
01:42:17.506 --> 01:42:18.465
It'll be too high.
1860
01:42:18.465 --> 01:42:20.092
You know it'll be too high. But it's--
1861
01:42:20.092 --> 01:42:22.302
Yes, but that's why I'm thinking--
1862
01:42:22.302 --> 01:42:23.637
Yeah, I know. I know. I know.
1863
01:42:23.637 --> 01:42:27.850
I couldn't do-- I couldn't put Jessica
through a whole course of therapy.
1864
01:42:27.850 --> 01:42:31.019
But as you know, I'm always ambitious
1865
01:42:31.019 --> 01:42:33.605
and I'm always optimistic about it.
1866
01:42:33.605 --> 01:42:36.567
Oh, my goodness, Jesse,
that is a mega one.
1867
01:42:36.567 --> 01:42:38.360
- Okay, so all right, we need--
- Don't swear.
1868
01:42:38.360 --> 01:42:40.445
I need a couple of volunteers
to help me light this.
1869
01:42:40.445 --> 01:42:41.697
Totally. I'm in.
1870
01:42:47.661 --> 01:42:51.039
Yeah but
last year we had 93 candles
1871
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:54.793
and if you remember,
I've never seen such a bonfire.
1872
01:42:57.671 --> 01:42:59.256
- Ready, ready, ready.
- Cheers!
1873
01:43:01.216 --> 01:43:03.468
- Happy birthday, Poppa!
- Happy birthday.
1874
01:43:03.468 --> 01:43:06.471
Happy birthday!
1875
01:43:06.471 --> 01:43:08.932
Jessica, cheers!
1876
01:43:08.932 --> 01:43:10.642
Cheers.
1877
01:43:16.106 --> 01:43:17.441
Wish, wish, have a wish?
1878
01:43:17.441 --> 01:43:18.775
Have a wish?
1879
01:43:18.775 --> 01:43:19.818
- Blow! Blow!
- A wish?
1880
01:43:19.818 --> 01:43:21.153
All right, I wish that I--
1881
01:43:21.153 --> 01:43:22.362
Now blow.
1882
01:43:22.905 --> 01:43:25.782
Quick, before the whole place
goes up in flames.
1883
01:43:32.748 --> 01:43:35.208
- What was your wish, Dad?
- What was your wish for?
1884
01:43:35.208 --> 01:43:37.252
- I'm not allowed to say.
- Why?
1885
01:43:37.252 --> 01:43:39.546
- I'm gonna make--
- Because it won't come true.
1886
01:43:42.257 --> 01:43:44.134
It is very hard to change
1887
01:43:44.134 --> 01:43:46.929
the opinion of the entire world.
1888
01:43:46.929 --> 01:43:51.808
But I'm amazed how many people now Mew
1889
01:43:51.808 --> 01:43:55.896
or adopt Mewing, which bears my name.
1890
01:43:55.896 --> 01:44:00.651
And it shows that the public
have actually accepted this--
1891
01:44:00.651 --> 01:44:03.278
I should call this in advance--
1892
01:44:03.278 --> 01:44:05.697
much more than the orthodontists.
1893
01:44:07.616 --> 01:44:10.285
I'm sure Michael will inherit my legacy.
1894
01:44:11.411 --> 01:44:17.167
In a way, I feel guilty
because I led him into it
1895
01:44:17.167 --> 01:44:19.920
and he willingly followed.
1896
01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:22.381
But should I have done?
1897
01:44:22.381 --> 01:44:26.218
Should I have ever attempted
to change the world at all?
1898
01:44:27.219 --> 01:44:30.889
Dad, you were
the first by a long, long way
1899
01:44:30.889 --> 01:44:32.015
of putting it all together,
1900
01:44:32.015 --> 01:44:34.643
understanding what was really happening.
1901
01:44:34.643 --> 01:44:36.478
What were the terms it goes, you know,
1902
01:44:36.478 --> 01:44:39.147
they say it doesn't exist,
then they fight you,
1903
01:44:39.147 --> 01:44:41.233
then eventually they say,
"Oh, but it's obvious."
1904
01:44:41.233 --> 01:44:42.192
It's acceptance.
1905
01:44:42.192 --> 01:44:44.486
They say, "It's obvious.
We always knew that. It was obvious."
1906
01:44:44.486 --> 01:44:47.280
Yeah, I'm a dreamer. And hopefully--
I know, and I've put my life
1907
01:44:47.280 --> 01:44:49.825
on the line for a dream. I have.
1908
01:44:49.825 --> 01:44:51.118
Your father's dream.
1909
01:44:51.118 --> 01:44:52.744
Yes, it was my father's dream.
1910
01:44:52.744 --> 01:44:54.079
God, what the odds are--
1911
01:44:57.708 --> 01:45:01.336
People who aren't aesthetic
sometimes just don't see it.
1912
01:45:01.336 --> 01:45:02.713
They don't--
1913
01:45:02.713 --> 01:45:04.589
Well, I'm amazed how orthodontists
1914
01:45:04.589 --> 01:45:06.925
don't see facial change.
1915
01:45:06.925 --> 01:45:09.636
No, a lot of people
are just immune to art.
1916
01:45:09.636 --> 01:45:11.763
It's interesting.
I guess you're right, though.
1917
01:45:11.763 --> 01:45:14.975
They're immune.
They just, you know, they don't see art.
1918
01:45:14.975 --> 01:45:18.186
They don't see art in the same way
and they don't get the same appreciation.
1919
01:45:18.186 --> 01:45:21.273
And in a way, I would say
this is an element of art.
1920
01:45:21.273 --> 01:45:23.650
To appreciate beauty
is to appreciate art.
1921
01:45:23.650 --> 01:45:24.693
Yeah.
1922
01:46:06.818 --> 01:46:11.364
I-- I do think because
what I've said is different,
1923
01:46:11.364 --> 01:46:13.241
it will be recorded.
1924
01:46:13.241 --> 01:46:16.995
And ultimately,
I don't have the slightest doubt
1925
01:46:16.995 --> 01:46:21.333
that orthotropics
will displace orthodontics.
1926
01:46:21.333 --> 01:46:23.919
That, in a way,
is quite an important thing,
1927
01:46:23.919 --> 01:46:28.090
and I suppose that in future,
people will write that down and say,
1928
01:46:28.090 --> 01:46:30.092
"This guy John Mew thought it up."
1929
01:46:30.092 --> 01:46:33.804
But, you know,
I'm gonna be dead, so it won't affect me.