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[disorienting music builds slowly]
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[cell phone vibrating]
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[music trails off]
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- [man grunts]
- [vibrating stops]
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[groans] Oh, it's Friday night.
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[woman on phone]
It's Saturday morning, honey.
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Mm?
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[grunting softly]
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[breathes deeply]
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Is it him?
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[disjointed music plays]
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[traffic noises overlap]
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[trunk opens]
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[siren wailing in distance]
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News desk in London says
he flew in from Heathrow last night.
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My guy at the British consulate
said he's not staying there, so...
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[Jae] Those two on the door,
they're Epstein's.
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Those three guys,
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I've seen them before.
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Royal protection officers.
If they're here--
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Jae, the door.
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[woman gasps] Guards.
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[Jae] It's like she wasn't even there.
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[camera clicks]
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She must have been coming for years.
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[woman] Christ.
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She can't be more than 20 now.
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Yeah.
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[unsettling music builds]
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[music trails off]
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[faint indistinct chatter]
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Here we go.
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- [camera clicking]
- It's Epstein.
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- [woman] That's him. That's Andrew.
- [Jae] Come on, turn around.
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- What?
- [woman groans]
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[sighs]
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- [grunts]
- Go, go, go!
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[tense music playing]
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[clears throat]
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[ambient bustling]
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What a lovely day.
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Oh, here we are.
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Okay.
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[camera clicking]
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[sighs]
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Uh... okay. Okay.
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- This isn't gonna work.
- [woman] What isn't?
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Change of plan.
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[music intensifies]
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[woman] Jae, talk to me.
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I'm improvising.
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Bear with me.
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Oh God.
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[breathing heavily]
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- Jae?
- Not now.
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[music settles]
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[camera clicking]
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[rapid camera clicks]
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[gasping]
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[disjointed music builds]
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Jae, are you there?
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[exhales, sighs]
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I'm here. [panting]
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["Don't Rain on my Parade"
by Barbara Streisand playing]
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♪ I gotta fly once ♪
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♪ I gotta try once ♪
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♪ Only can die once ♪
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♪ Right, sir? ♪
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♪ Ooh, life is juicy ♪
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♪ Juicy, and you see ♪
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♪ I gotta have my bite, sir ♪
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♪ Don't tell me not to fly
I simply got to ♪
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♪ If someone takes a spill, it's me... ♪
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[woman] Welcome, everybody.
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I want to thank you all
for taking the time out of your lunch.
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All of us at the BBC face
some incredible challenges.
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♪ Life's candy
And the sun's a ball of butter... ♪
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Morning, George.
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♪ Who told you
You're allowed to rain on my parade? ♪
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The world is changing.
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We need to change with it.
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Every year the BBC faces more
and more competition in the news space,
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and we must fight to remain relevant.
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♪ Eye on the target, and wham! ♪
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♪ One shot, one gunshot... ♪
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- Has someone got my Nando's?
- Oh, yeah.
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♪ Hey, world ♪
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Bloody dog!
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♪ Here I am ♪
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♪ I'll march my band out ♪
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♪ I'll beat my drum ♪
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Have we still got jobs, then?
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[men chuckling]
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Moody, stop begging! Come on.
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Come here. Moody!
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[newswoman] Never in my career
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have I felt BBC News
is under as much threat as it is today.
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It is our duty to respond.
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So it is with great sadness
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that I have to announce... some job losses.
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We currently estimate these job cuts
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to be in the region of 450.
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Here we go. Here we fucking go.
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I know it is an enormous number.
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How to improve your news-gathering.
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Sack all the journalists.
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[elevator dings]
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These cuts will be across
all news departments.
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And across all shows.
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Thank you very much.
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- Okay. Uh, focus.
- [song ends]
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We've heard what she had to say,
and unless I missed it,
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she didn't say anything
about not doing our show.
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- Well, that was bleak.
- Manage to catch it? Did you?
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Nine hours and 13 minutes from now,
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we're on air. With what?
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[woman] Follow-up on British arms
sold to the Saudis being used in Yemen.
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Yeah, we've covered that.
What's the hook? Why today?
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[man] Brexit. Fifteen rounds with Farage.
One-on-one with Emily.
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What would be our way in with Farage?
Something new.
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- [man] Frictionless borders.
- Gets my juices going every time.
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- I can get us Lupita for tonight.
- The actress? Has she got a film out?
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No. She wants to talk colorism.
She's got a lot to say.
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She's great. It's an exclusive.
I think we should open with it.
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Perfect for the second half.
Can't open with her.
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Agreed. They don't decide
our running order.
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We opened with Emma Thompson on Weinstein.
They saw that. That's why they want us.
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Weinstein was a news story that day.
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Lupita may well be great,
but it isn't news.
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Second half.
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So, Farage? Sam? Can you book him?
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If you want Farage, Freddy,
then it's simple.
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You call up his PR.
It's really not rocket science.
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He'll be straight over.
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[Freddy] That's your job.
You're our booker.
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And you do know we've just announced
a few hundred redundancies.
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Uh, okay, let's, uh--
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The way I keep my job... Freddy, is by
booking the people we can't just call up.
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The ones other people can't just get.
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The job where you waltz in late,
then spend the morning
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working out where to go
for lunch with Piers Morgan?
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Last in, first out.
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- You were here at 6:00. On the pips. Yeah?
- What?
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You know what that does? That puts us
16 hours behind the news cycle,
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while I go out and find stories
people actually care about.
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[pensive music plays]
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No, we love Lupita,
and we desperately want her.
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We'd like to close with her
and go huge on socials.
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You know,
that's where this really cuts through.
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Okay, that's great.
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Great!
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Thanks, you're a superstar. Okay, bye.
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[clears throat]
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[applause]
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[clears throat]
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It's not about me.
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[light scattered laughter]
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This is about
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putting you wonderful young entrepreneurs
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together with you
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eh... slightly more mature investors.
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[light laughter]
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So that together with Pitch@Palace,
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we can make magic happen.
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Now, I know you're all desperate
to get talking to them,
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and they're desperate
to listen to your ideas
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and make them into a reality.
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So the best thing for me to do
is to get out of the way
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and let you crack on.
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Before I do...
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[light laughter]
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Don't tell my mum.
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[laughter]
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[guests clapping]
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Maybe for the best no one came.
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[Andrew] Ah, there we are.
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All right, now say Pitch@Palace.
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[all] Pitch@Palace!
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Pitch@Palace!
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Uh... I'd like it to be fair.
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I mean, you don't mention Epstein
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every time there's a story
about Bill Clinton, do you?
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[man] Bill Clinton
isn't the Queen's favorite son.
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[sighs] And if you had been here,
then you would have seen for yourself
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the... the wonderful job that...
that he does with Pitch,
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encouraging young entrepreneurs.
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How young? These entrepreneurs?
How young is young?
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Piss off, Nick.
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How do they get away with this?
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That is why we have hired Jason.
To manage this.
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Time.
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- It takes time.
- Time? That photograph is nine years old.
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- Sir, just--
- No.
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- No quick fix to a story like this.
- So you people keep telling me.
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[Jason] And you are 100% right,
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Your Royal Highness.
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About what?
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You've been dealing with
this Epstein mess for nearly a decade.
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You haven't seen him
in that time, correct?
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Uh... No. No, um...
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No, absolutely. It was, um...
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Uh... December 2010.
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Then my instinct is...
you haven't had the right strategy.
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Epstein, and the whole...
Playboy Prince thing,
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should have been put to bed
a long time ago.
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And I can make it go away.
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But you have to let me control it.
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Amanda?
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Well, uh, Jason knows the press.
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That's why we hired him.
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Uh...
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I think he can help us.
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I've, uh, put together
a list of friendly journalists.
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That's a... contradiction in terms, innit?
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Invite them here, one by one, for tea.
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They feel special.
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You get to know each other,
all off the record,
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and slowly they realize
you're a decent human being,
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who is, by the way,
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prepared to acknowledge
errors of judgment.
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[grunts]
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Slowly.
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It's always slowly. Always time.
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I'm 60 next year.
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And my mother, well...
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none of us are getting any younger.
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Jason's list of journalists.
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[inhales deeply]
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Mm...
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What?
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[sighs] Well, this...
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This list. This... strategy.
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We've been down this road before.
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["Don't Rain On My Parade"
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- Hello?
- [Amanda] Hello, Sam.
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It's Amanda Thirsk
from the Duke of York's office.
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Hi.
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But we don't do red lines.
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No questions off the table.
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- Maybe just think on it.
- I'll get back to you.
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Great. Speak soon.
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- [woman] Anything good?
- Not sure. The Palace.
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- Right, what have we got?
- You know what I think?
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For intelligent analysis,
we're the only place in town.
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Brexit again.
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Sam, didn't you have something?
The Palace?
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Uh, not for tonight. But we have Lupita.
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Great. Which bit of the Palace?
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- Prince Andrew's private secretary.
- Okay, what do they want?
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Pitch@Palace. It's like The Apprentice,
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only you get Prince Andrew
instead of Donald Trump.
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- It's not on television--
- Not Newsnight, is it?
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00:17:54.291 --> 00:17:55.416
Do you know Andrew's PS?
256
00:17:56.250 --> 00:17:58.541
- No.
- Did she reach out to you first?
257
00:18:00.291 --> 00:18:01.125
[Sam] Yeah.
258
00:18:03.291 --> 00:18:04.166
Yeah.
259
00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.041
Okay, everyone, keep looking,
and let's talk again in an hour.
260
00:18:08.541 --> 00:18:11.041
[pensive music plays]
261
00:18:35.291 --> 00:18:36.666
[Sam] I need a connect.
262
00:18:36.666 --> 00:18:40.666
Uh, Jae Donnelly. A pap.
Based in New York. Do you know him?
263
00:18:43.666 --> 00:18:44.583
Great.
264
00:18:45.333 --> 00:18:47.125
God... For Christ's sake.
265
00:18:47.833 --> 00:18:51.166
Farage isn't available.
We need somebody else.
266
00:18:51.166 --> 00:18:53.875
Maybe even he's bored with it by now.
Give me a minute.
267
00:18:53.875 --> 00:18:55.500
- Who's on the phone?
- Photographer.
268
00:18:55.500 --> 00:18:57.791
Working for who? Paparazzi?
269
00:18:57.791 --> 00:19:00.958
All your favorites, Freddy.
The Sun. The Mail.
270
00:19:00.958 --> 00:19:02.125
For Christ's sake.
271
00:19:02.125 --> 00:19:04.291
[Sam] You know what?
If we had half the instincts
272
00:19:04.291 --> 00:19:07.666
and a quarter of the contacts
for the average tabloid pap,
273
00:19:07.666 --> 00:19:09.708
maybe we wouldn't be scrabbling around
274
00:19:09.708 --> 00:19:12.541
for new ways to have
the same argument every night.
275
00:19:12.541 --> 00:19:15.125
So just, you know, leave it with me, yeah?
276
00:19:15.125 --> 00:19:16.416
Coming right up.
277
00:19:16.416 --> 00:19:19.958
Someone... Someone
for Emily to really tell off.
278
00:19:19.958 --> 00:19:23.166
- All the dinner parties in North London...
- Sam.
279
00:19:23.166 --> 00:19:26.333
- ...say, "Did you see Newsnight last night?
- Sam.
280
00:19:26.333 --> 00:19:31.458
"Wasn't it amazing how Emily Maitlis said
all the great things we all agree with?"
281
00:19:31.458 --> 00:19:36.333
We're mistaking talking to ourselves
for news, Freddy, and it's killing us.
282
00:19:36.333 --> 00:19:37.625
[inhales deeply]
283
00:19:43.041 --> 00:19:44.541
- Stewart.
- Mm?
284
00:19:44.541 --> 00:19:46.250
I'm heading down to the studio.
285
00:19:48.041 --> 00:19:50.500
[pensive music plays]
286
00:19:52.375 --> 00:19:54.416
- Come! Moody!
- [dog whimpers]
287
00:19:57.041 --> 00:20:01.125
I behave like that... insulting people
in front of the entire office,
288
00:20:02.416 --> 00:20:04.750
I mean, am I still here?
Do I still have a job?
289
00:20:16.416 --> 00:20:18.416
We have an issue
290
00:20:19.416 --> 00:20:20.416
with Sam.
291
00:20:21.041 --> 00:20:22.208
We? Who's we?
292
00:20:22.208 --> 00:20:24.750
[scoffs] Well, I do,
293
00:20:24.750 --> 00:20:27.416
Freddy, and now possibly Emily.
294
00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.458
I'm not a snob, but she's very Daily Mail.
295
00:20:30.458 --> 00:20:33.166
I'm not saying
we can't cope with different opinions,
296
00:20:33.166 --> 00:20:34.208
but she is...
297
00:20:35.041 --> 00:20:36.958
she's too defensive.
298
00:20:45.125 --> 00:20:46.708
[woman] Put the lights up a touch.
299
00:20:47.708 --> 00:20:49.000
It's too cold.
300
00:20:50.625 --> 00:20:52.333
I didn't say "turn back down."
301
00:20:52.333 --> 00:20:55.416
[tech] Sure, but this is
the correct set level for broadcast.
302
00:20:55.416 --> 00:20:57.458
I'm aware of that. Back up.
303
00:20:58.041 --> 00:20:59.375
Thanks for coming, Sam.
304
00:21:00.041 --> 00:21:01.875
That level but warmer.
305
00:21:01.875 --> 00:21:03.416
[tech] All right, okay.
306
00:21:03.416 --> 00:21:05.541
I'll just have to switch
some things around.
307
00:21:07.125 --> 00:21:09.375
You understand the pressure we're under?
308
00:21:09.375 --> 00:21:12.041
All of us.
I've got enough fights on my hands
309
00:21:12.041 --> 00:21:13.750
without having them in my own team.
310
00:21:13.750 --> 00:21:15.166
Maybe you should speak with--
311
00:21:15.166 --> 00:21:18.958
I am speaking to them, and I'm saying
to them the same thing I'm saying to you.
312
00:21:20.291 --> 00:21:22.375
- Help me out.
- What about something like that?
313
00:21:22.375 --> 00:21:24.458
Warmer, much warmer.
314
00:21:25.916 --> 00:21:28.416
I'm trying to make changes.
I want a broader audience.
315
00:21:28.416 --> 00:21:32.000
That's how we survive.
I've no interest in echo chambers.
316
00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:34.416
I want different voices. I want tension.
317
00:21:34.416 --> 00:21:35.583
And passion.
318
00:21:41.875 --> 00:21:43.958
- Look, Emily, I'm sorry.
- No, you're not.
319
00:21:45.416 --> 00:21:46.666
You meant every word.
320
00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:48.541
Not every word.
321
00:21:49.166 --> 00:21:51.583
Don't think I don't know
what people think about me.
322
00:21:51.583 --> 00:21:53.958
The point is,
if we're at each other's throats,
323
00:21:53.958 --> 00:21:55.833
then none of this is going to work.
324
00:21:56.875 --> 00:21:58.333
[tech] So what are we saying?
325
00:21:58.958 --> 00:22:00.166
No, warmer.
326
00:22:00.833 --> 00:22:02.083
Okay, stop there.
327
00:22:02.833 --> 00:22:04.500
- I like it.
- [tech] Great.
328
00:22:05.500 --> 00:22:07.333
Okay, understood. Anything else?
329
00:22:08.375 --> 00:22:10.166
- I--
- [Emily] Three women and a whippet.
330
00:22:10.666 --> 00:22:13.625
You wouldn't have seen that
in a BBC studio when I started.
331
00:22:13.625 --> 00:22:15.166
[woman laughs]
332
00:22:26.666 --> 00:22:29.375
- [girl] Oh my God, n--
- Oh my God, that is--
333
00:22:29.375 --> 00:22:31.541
- No, no, no, no, no!
- No, no, no, no!
334
00:22:32.583 --> 00:22:34.375
- [exclaiming]
- I told you!
335
00:22:34.375 --> 00:22:36.458
[overlapping excited chatter]
336
00:22:36.458 --> 00:22:37.958
[musical ringtone playing]
337
00:22:37.958 --> 00:22:38.916
Oh.
338
00:22:41.833 --> 00:22:45.750
Sorry about the noise. I'm working.
I might have to go without saying goodbye.
339
00:22:45.750 --> 00:22:48.375
Thanks for calling me back. Anything good?
340
00:22:49.416 --> 00:22:52.208
A Kardashian launching
a new pair of knickers.
341
00:22:53.208 --> 00:22:54.208
Gotta pay the bills.
342
00:22:54.208 --> 00:22:56.208
- [chuckles]
- All right, check your messages.
343
00:22:57.708 --> 00:23:00.833
Some photos of girls
I've taken over the years at Epstein's.
344
00:23:01.541 --> 00:23:04.333
They are in there about an hour each.
345
00:23:04.333 --> 00:23:05.708
They look very young.
346
00:23:05.708 --> 00:23:07.250
[girls laughing]
347
00:23:15.833 --> 00:23:18.500
[Jae] They come from
an apartment block on 66th Street
348
00:23:18.500 --> 00:23:21.000
owned by Epstein's brother,
rented by Jeffrey.
349
00:23:22.166 --> 00:23:25.791
It's a warehouse of girls.
350
00:23:26.833 --> 00:23:28.541
He calls them his "nubiles."
351
00:23:28.541 --> 00:23:29.458
[scoffs]
352
00:23:29.958 --> 00:23:31.250
This is still happening?
353
00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:32.416
It's industrial, Sam.
354
00:23:33.958 --> 00:23:35.708
I've been in New York for years.
355
00:23:35.708 --> 00:23:39.166
All I have to do is spend
24 hours outside of that place,
356
00:23:39.166 --> 00:23:40.750
and you see them come and go.
357
00:23:40.750 --> 00:23:42.458
How do we not know about this?
358
00:23:42.458 --> 00:23:44.791
Because it's young girls
no one cares about
359
00:23:44.791 --> 00:23:46.333
going in and out of a house.
360
00:23:47.375 --> 00:23:48.375
And he's rich.
361
00:23:49.541 --> 00:23:53.375
You know, he went to jail. Now he's out.
Frankly, hardly anyone gives a shit.
362
00:23:53.875 --> 00:23:56.541
And Andrew, is he in there often?
363
00:23:56.541 --> 00:23:58.791
- Oh, back in the day, sure.
- Any proof?
364
00:23:58.791 --> 00:24:01.083
Of Andrew actually at Epstein's?
365
00:24:01.083 --> 00:24:02.833
Other than the park picture?
366
00:24:02.833 --> 00:24:04.041
Uh... no.
367
00:24:05.125 --> 00:24:06.083
No, they're careful.
368
00:24:07.375 --> 00:24:09.083
But I can promise you he was there.
369
00:24:09.583 --> 00:24:12.250
- You know about Ghislaine Maxwell, right?
- [clamoring]
370
00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:14.166
- Andrew's friend?
- No.
371
00:24:14.166 --> 00:24:17.666
Well, you should. I've gotta go.
Ghislaine. Look her up. I'll be in touch.
372
00:24:17.666 --> 00:24:18.625
Thanks.
373
00:24:25.333 --> 00:24:26.875
- [girl 1] Guys.
- [girl 2] What?
374
00:24:26.875 --> 00:24:29.291
- [girl 1] Look at this.
- [girl 3] Let me see.
375
00:24:30.375 --> 00:24:32.375
[all exclaiming]
376
00:24:40.416 --> 00:24:42.416
[pensive music fades slowly]
377
00:25:01.708 --> 00:25:03.208
[woman] Sam. Leave him a minute.
378
00:25:03.208 --> 00:25:05.166
[mouthing]
379
00:25:06.083 --> 00:25:07.791
- A what?
- [softly] Writing a poem.
380
00:25:07.791 --> 00:25:09.083
Lucas?
381
00:25:10.750 --> 00:25:12.750
[horns honking]
382
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.000
[woman speaking indistinctly on TV]
383
00:25:24.250 --> 00:25:25.083
So who is she?
384
00:25:26.958 --> 00:25:28.333
I'm not in her class.
385
00:25:30.541 --> 00:25:35.083
Listen, I... I know I'm your mum,
and I'm biased and everything,
386
00:25:35.083 --> 00:25:37.958
but you're very handsome,
so you shouldn't--
387
00:25:37.958 --> 00:25:40.791
No. Oh my. I mean my actual class.
388
00:25:40.791 --> 00:25:42.875
- She's in the year above.
- Oh.
389
00:25:42.875 --> 00:25:44.875
Well, I like your ambition. [laughs]
390
00:25:44.875 --> 00:25:47.500
- [man] Chili sauce, yeah? The usual?
- Yes, please.
391
00:25:48.125 --> 00:25:50.333
You want a tip? How to talk to girls?
392
00:25:50.333 --> 00:25:52.291
- Do I have a choice?
- Not really, no.
393
00:25:52.291 --> 00:25:54.833
You listen. Most people want to talk.
394
00:25:54.833 --> 00:25:57.583
But most people are terrible at listening.
395
00:25:57.583 --> 00:25:58.583
Mm.
396
00:25:58.583 --> 00:26:01.041
[news jingle playing]
397
00:26:01.041 --> 00:26:05.666
But you promised the British people
there wouldn't be an issue.
398
00:26:05.666 --> 00:26:07.916 line:5%
And at the time, I followed that through--
399
00:26:07.916 --> 00:26:10.291 line:5%
- Were you wrong at the time?
- I don't accept that.
400
00:26:10.291 --> 00:26:13.958
Well, you were either wrong
or making a promise you couldn't keep.
401
00:26:13.958 --> 00:26:14.875
Which is it?
402
00:26:15.916 --> 00:26:19.708
You described yourself
as a man of principle.
403
00:26:20.208 --> 00:26:25.000
You also guaranteed voters
that border checks between the UK and EU
404
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.791
would be unaffected by Brex--
405
00:26:26.791 --> 00:26:27.916
[TV mutes]
406
00:26:27.916 --> 00:26:30.583
[pensive music playing]
407
00:27:07.541 --> 00:27:09.750
[Jae] Hi, this is Jae Donnelly.
Leave a message.
408
00:27:10.458 --> 00:27:13.041
Hi, Jae. It's Sam.
409
00:27:13.041 --> 00:27:16.541
Uh... this photo of... Andrew
410
00:27:16.541 --> 00:27:18.958
with Ghislaine Maxwell in London
411
00:27:18.958 --> 00:27:22.375
and a girl, 17 at the time...
412
00:27:22.875 --> 00:27:26.875
Uh, 2001. Virginia Roberts.
Do you know anything about it?
413
00:27:26.875 --> 00:27:30.541
Um... Give me a call
when you get this. Thanks.
414
00:27:35.333 --> 00:27:36.500
[phone buzzes]
415
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.125
[alert whooshes]
416
00:28:00.125 --> 00:28:01.541
Bloody hell.
417
00:28:02.041 --> 00:28:03.333
[woman] I want a selfie.
418
00:28:03.333 --> 00:28:04.791
[chuckles] Okay. Okay.
419
00:28:04.791 --> 00:28:05.916
And a spoon.
420
00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:07.666
[chuckles]
421
00:28:07.666 --> 00:28:09.083
Okay, bye.
422
00:28:09.083 --> 00:28:11.083
- [driver] Don't tell me.
- What?
423
00:28:11.958 --> 00:28:13.208
Is it Phil the Greek?
424
00:28:14.458 --> 00:28:15.500
Jugface?
425
00:28:15.500 --> 00:28:16.625
I can't say.
426
00:28:16.625 --> 00:28:19.083
It can't be Her Majesty.
Her flag's not up.
427
00:28:21.125 --> 00:28:24.041
Well, just as long as
it's not that Randy fucking Andy.
428
00:28:24.041 --> 00:28:25.375
[chuckles]
429
00:28:30.375 --> 00:28:31.208
Here we go.
430
00:28:31.916 --> 00:28:33.541
[pensive music playing]
431
00:28:33.541 --> 00:28:34.666
Whew!
432
00:28:35.583 --> 00:28:36.416
Thanks.
433
00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:38.333
[sighs]
434
00:28:40.458 --> 00:28:42.000
- Hello. Morning.
- Morning.
435
00:28:42.791 --> 00:28:43.625
Yeah.
436
00:28:44.708 --> 00:28:46.041
- Okay.
- Thank you.
437
00:28:48.208 --> 00:28:50.291
Follow the path.
They'll let you in at the top.
438
00:28:50.291 --> 00:28:51.666
Okay, great. Thanks.
439
00:28:51.666 --> 00:28:53.750
[pensive music builds slowly]
440
00:29:12.875 --> 00:29:14.125
[man] Good afternoon.
441
00:29:44.708 --> 00:29:46.791
[Amanda] Earl Grey or chamomile?
442
00:29:46.791 --> 00:29:48.125
[chuckles, sighs]
443
00:29:52.708 --> 00:29:54.333
[Amanda] We lose a fair few.
444
00:29:55.416 --> 00:29:56.750
- Teaspoons.
- [both chuckle]
445
00:29:56.750 --> 00:29:58.041
They just seem to
446
00:29:59.333 --> 00:30:00.250
go.
447
00:30:02.083 --> 00:30:04.125
It's seen as a good thing.
448
00:30:04.125 --> 00:30:07.583
- It means everybody wants a part of us.
- Us?
449
00:30:08.166 --> 00:30:11.583
[inhales] Well,
I've been here for a long time.
450
00:30:11.583 --> 00:30:16.500
It's like family. The day we don't need
to budget for extra teaspoons...
451
00:30:17.333 --> 00:30:20.041
And... would he be
prepared to talk about that?
452
00:30:21.208 --> 00:30:24.291
The theft of teaspoons
from Buckingham Palace?
453
00:30:24.291 --> 00:30:28.375
The future of the monarchy.
What it will mean when the Queen dies.
454
00:30:29.333 --> 00:30:31.166
[quietly] We don't talk about that.
455
00:30:31.166 --> 00:30:34.000
Too painful? For a favorite son?
456
00:30:35.791 --> 00:30:37.708
[inhales sharply, exhales]
457
00:30:37.708 --> 00:30:40.000
One thing about Her Majesty,
458
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:43.500
she is a very good judge of character.
459
00:30:45.375 --> 00:30:46.291
Mm.
460
00:30:47.916 --> 00:30:49.791
So... what's she like?
461
00:30:50.541 --> 00:30:51.708
- Who?
- Emily.
462
00:30:51.708 --> 00:30:54.875
Oh, well, she runs... [chuckles]
463
00:30:54.875 --> 00:30:57.458
She swims, she interviews.
464
00:30:57.458 --> 00:31:00.625
Nobody's ever seen her eat.
She's Superwoman.
465
00:31:01.583 --> 00:31:04.125
- And the Bic.
- Harry Potter has his wand.
466
00:31:04.125 --> 00:31:06.458
Emily Maitlis has her Bic.
467
00:31:06.458 --> 00:31:07.750
[Amanda chuckles softly]
468
00:31:08.708 --> 00:31:11.875
And Andrew? How's his judge of character?
469
00:31:14.791 --> 00:31:18.625
He's a... a very loyal friend.
470
00:31:19.583 --> 00:31:22.000
Too loyal for his own good sometimes.
471
00:31:23.416 --> 00:31:24.583
Ghislaine Maxwell.
472
00:31:24.583 --> 00:31:25.833
[elevator dings]
473
00:31:26.583 --> 00:31:28.750
- She was a good friend, yes.
- Mm-hmm.
474
00:31:31.833 --> 00:31:33.166
Straight to the point.
475
00:31:33.166 --> 00:31:34.791
There was some small talk,
476
00:31:35.458 --> 00:31:39.583
but we're both busy women,
and we both know why we're here, Amanda.
477
00:31:44.208 --> 00:31:46.333
[whispers] Do you want
to get a real drink?
478
00:31:46.333 --> 00:31:47.333
[chuckles]
479
00:31:47.333 --> 00:31:49.416
- [elevator dings]
- [pensive music plays]
480
00:31:52.666 --> 00:31:53.541
Amanda?
481
00:31:58.833 --> 00:31:59.666
Amanda?
482
00:32:00.250 --> 00:32:01.583
Uh... she's out.
483
00:32:02.083 --> 00:32:03.791
With Sam McAlister.
484
00:32:06.333 --> 00:32:07.166
Who?
485
00:32:10.291 --> 00:32:12.833
What do you think you know about me, Sam?
486
00:32:13.416 --> 00:32:14.708
[inhales deeply]
487
00:32:15.375 --> 00:32:16.833
I know you come from banking.
488
00:32:17.666 --> 00:32:18.708
A single mum.
489
00:32:20.083 --> 00:32:23.833
I know that you've been
doing this job for seven years,
490
00:32:23.833 --> 00:32:26.416
and you have a problem that won't go away.
491
00:32:27.125 --> 00:32:28.791
And I know that you're here
492
00:32:29.375 --> 00:32:31.791
and Jason Stein isn't.
493
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:33.833
So?
494
00:32:33.833 --> 00:32:37.208
So maybe it's you
who wants to do things differently.
495
00:32:38.458 --> 00:32:40.833
Or we're just looking at options.
496
00:32:41.625 --> 00:32:44.000
- Or that.
- [both laugh]
497
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.125
- [phone buzzing]
- [Amanda] Oh...
498
00:32:46.125 --> 00:32:47.583
Uh...
499
00:32:47.583 --> 00:32:49.500
Sorry, it's Andrew. He needs me.
500
00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:52.833
Um, I'm only trying
to be honest with you, Amanda.
501
00:32:52.833 --> 00:32:53.875
I always am.
502
00:32:53.875 --> 00:32:57.083
And you know it can't just be Pitch.
503
00:32:57.083 --> 00:33:02.000
And like I said before,
you wouldn't be here talking to Newsnight
504
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.916
if you didn't already know that.
505
00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:07.541
[inhales sharply] But I'm not talking
to Newsnight, Sam.
506
00:33:08.208 --> 00:33:09.375
I'm talking to you.
507
00:33:10.250 --> 00:33:11.916
And there is a red line.
508
00:33:12.958 --> 00:33:14.500
[melancholy music playing]
509
00:33:14.500 --> 00:33:15.916
Thank you for meeting.
510
00:33:22.250 --> 00:33:25.750
[Andrew] You'll like this too.
This is moments
511
00:33:25.750 --> 00:33:29.625
after I've just narrowly been missed
by inches by an Exocet missile.
512
00:33:29.625 --> 00:33:31.000
And as soon as it came, I'd...
513
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.125
Out of the way, and I'd come down.
I'd do that two times a day.
514
00:33:34.125 --> 00:33:36.416
[woman] Must have been terrifying moments.
515
00:33:36.416 --> 00:33:37.791
Oh, some of the worst.
516
00:33:38.958 --> 00:33:40.208
And some of the best.
517
00:33:41.375 --> 00:33:43.125
Those... Those... Those men,
518
00:33:43.125 --> 00:33:45.625
they... they-they really knew me, you know?
519
00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:48.208
Well, there's no hiding in war.
520
00:33:48.708 --> 00:33:50.500
From your shipmates. Um...
521
00:33:51.708 --> 00:33:52.708
From yourself.
522
00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:54.541
Do you ever miss it?
523
00:33:54.541 --> 00:33:55.583
What, war?
524
00:33:56.500 --> 00:33:58.666
The Argies were
a lot less trouble than your lot.
525
00:33:58.666 --> 00:33:59.583
[laughter]
526
00:33:59.583 --> 00:34:02.375
Come on. Let's go for it.
Let's do the tour.
527
00:34:04.958 --> 00:34:07.375
[Jason] Newsnight? Newsnight?!
528
00:34:08.041 --> 00:34:09.291
You saw that.
529
00:34:09.291 --> 00:34:12.791
Can't... Can't you see
how good he is with people?
530
00:34:12.791 --> 00:34:15.208
How they like him
when they spend time with him?
531
00:34:15.208 --> 00:34:18.041
- That's the plan, Amanda.
- Look, it's called charm.
532
00:34:18.041 --> 00:34:20.958
Jason, you have to be
in the room with it to feel it.
533
00:34:21.875 --> 00:34:22.708
Television?
534
00:34:22.708 --> 00:34:24.833
Look, it was just a meeting.
535
00:34:24.833 --> 00:34:27.291
A meeting you shouldn't have taken.
536
00:34:27.291 --> 00:34:28.750
Especially without me.
537
00:34:29.666 --> 00:34:30.708
This is my job.
538
00:34:33.833 --> 00:34:35.375
No, not now, Freddy.
539
00:34:35.375 --> 00:34:39.333
- Did the liquid lunch go on the BBC tab?
- [sighs] I was so close.
540
00:34:39.333 --> 00:34:44.125
Really? Think you have special powers over
a big beast like Buckingham Palace Comms?
541
00:34:44.125 --> 00:34:46.833
It was just the two of us. Nobody else.
542
00:34:46.833 --> 00:34:49.375
- And we were so close.
- To what?
543
00:34:49.375 --> 00:34:53.000
An interview.
This Epstein story isn't going away.
544
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:57.375
Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's girlfriend,
is one of Andrew's oldest friends.
545
00:34:57.375 --> 00:35:00.041
Then they're not gonna
talk to us about it, are they?
546
00:35:00.041 --> 00:35:02.625
Sam, it's celebrity fluff, not Newsnight.
547
00:35:02.625 --> 00:35:05.541
[Sam] It's not fluff.
It's exactly what we should be doing.
548
00:35:05.541 --> 00:35:07.875
I'm sorry, but we don't have time
for you to spend
549
00:35:07.875 --> 00:35:11.666
a whole day chasing a story that
we're never gonna get. Not anymore.
550
00:35:12.708 --> 00:35:16.000
We're meant to be a team.
Why do you think you're so special?
551
00:35:19.666 --> 00:35:20.833
This is the work.
552
00:35:21.333 --> 00:35:25.208
All right? Today was the work because
this story is only going to get bigger.
553
00:35:25.208 --> 00:35:28.500
And when it does, we don't wanna be
the first people making the call.
554
00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:30.833
We wanna be the first people they call.
And if I--
555
00:35:35.250 --> 00:35:37.458
If I can't do my job
the way it needs to be done,
556
00:35:38.875 --> 00:35:40.791
then I don't think I can do this anymore.
557
00:35:49.958 --> 00:35:51.666
[energetic music playing]
558
00:36:01.208 --> 00:36:02.541
Oh, Sammy.
559
00:36:03.958 --> 00:36:05.958
[breathes deeply]
560
00:36:11.375 --> 00:36:13.375
[pensive music playing]
561
00:36:36.291 --> 00:36:39.041
[automated voice]
Please leave a message after the tone.
562
00:36:40.875 --> 00:36:42.916
Hi, Esme. It's Sam.
563
00:36:42.916 --> 00:36:44.041
Um...
564
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.125
I was just calling...
565
00:36:48.250 --> 00:36:49.500
Uh, could you...
566
00:36:51.166 --> 00:36:55.500
Could you call me back when you get this?
It's important. Thanks, bye.
567
00:36:56.416 --> 00:36:57.291
You all right?
568
00:37:02.500 --> 00:37:05.291
D'you know, I spend half my time
569
00:37:05.291 --> 00:37:08.250
just absolutely terrified
of getting sacked,
570
00:37:08.250 --> 00:37:10.750
and the rest of it
wishing they'd get it over with.
571
00:37:11.791 --> 00:37:13.666
Why don't they see me as one of them?
572
00:37:14.833 --> 00:37:18.541
- Maybe there's somewhere easier.
- I don't want it to be easy, Mum. I just...
573
00:37:18.541 --> 00:37:20.625
[footsteps approaching]
574
00:37:21.416 --> 00:37:23.291
I just want it to matter.
575
00:37:23.291 --> 00:37:24.416
[door shuts]
576
00:37:24.416 --> 00:37:26.458
[inhales] Lucas!
577
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.000
- Mmm... Night-night.
- Night-night. Night-night. [kisses]
578
00:37:31.208 --> 00:37:32.583
- Night, you.
- Night.
579
00:37:33.083 --> 00:37:33.958
[kisses]
580
00:37:34.541 --> 00:37:35.416
Hello.
581
00:37:35.416 --> 00:37:38.125
I spoke to her. Freya. That's her name.
582
00:37:38.125 --> 00:37:41.458
Yeah. And what did she say?
What did you say?
583
00:37:41.458 --> 00:37:43.166
- Hello.
- [chuckles]
584
00:37:43.166 --> 00:37:44.208
What did she say?
585
00:37:44.208 --> 00:37:47.500
Well, I thought maybe she hadn't heard me.
But she did. And--
586
00:37:47.500 --> 00:37:50.958
- [musical ringtone playing]
- Yeah. Oh, one minute, darling. Wait.
587
00:37:50.958 --> 00:37:52.208
One second. Hang on.
588
00:37:54.875 --> 00:37:55.708
Jae?
589
00:37:55.708 --> 00:37:57.083
How was the Palace?
590
00:37:57.083 --> 00:37:59.291
I couldn't make it work.
Epstein's a no-go.
591
00:37:59.291 --> 00:38:00.541
Well, not anymore.
592
00:38:01.125 --> 00:38:04.458
- What do you mean?
- I'm at Teterboro. A private airfield.
593
00:38:04.458 --> 00:38:07.833
Our friend Jeffrey's plane
is due to land in the next hour.
594
00:38:08.666 --> 00:38:10.125
And the FBI are waiting.
595
00:38:10.791 --> 00:38:12.666
- Mum! Can you...
- [car alarm chirps]
596
00:38:13.666 --> 00:38:16.125
Can you stay one more hour with Lucas?
That all right?
597
00:38:16.125 --> 00:38:18.875
- Yeah, of course.
- I'll be back before he goes to bed.
598
00:38:19.375 --> 00:38:21.083
[Sam's mum] Take your time. See you later.
599
00:38:27.125 --> 00:38:29.125
[musical ringtone playing]
600
00:38:35.083 --> 00:38:35.916
Hello?
601
00:38:36.916 --> 00:38:38.041
You called me.
602
00:38:38.041 --> 00:38:39.666
You said it was important.
603
00:38:41.083 --> 00:38:44.541
Jeffrey Epstein is being arrested tonight.
Sex trafficking.
604
00:38:46.166 --> 00:38:47.708
Esme? Are you there?
605
00:38:47.708 --> 00:38:49.291
So it's a news story now.
606
00:38:49.791 --> 00:38:52.166
Right, let's start pushing the Palace.
607
00:38:57.083 --> 00:38:57.958
Thanks.
608
00:38:57.958 --> 00:39:00.041
[energetic music playing]
609
00:39:04.125 --> 00:39:05.166
Whew!
610
00:39:16.041 --> 00:39:17.083
All right.
611
00:39:17.083 --> 00:39:18.583
[door buzzes]
612
00:39:22.583 --> 00:39:24.458
Everything's changed.
613
00:39:25.041 --> 00:39:27.791
Any moment now,
you are going to get a phone call.
614
00:39:27.791 --> 00:39:29.208
After that, a hundred more.
615
00:39:29.208 --> 00:39:32.458
We have a few hours,
at best, before the tsunami hits.
616
00:39:32.458 --> 00:39:35.333
- I thought we could use it, both of us.
- What has changed?
617
00:39:35.333 --> 00:39:38.250
The FBI are raiding Jeffrey Epstein's home
any moment now.
618
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.916
This red line of yours
isn't going to hold, Amanda.
619
00:39:42.916 --> 00:39:46.708
You can't go "no comment"
on being friends with a pedophile
620
00:39:46.708 --> 00:39:49.208
and expect everyone to love you,
whoever you are.
621
00:39:51.750 --> 00:39:53.875
- How do I know I can trust you?
- You don't.
622
00:39:54.375 --> 00:39:57.458
And you don't have to
because I can give you an hour.
623
00:39:58.583 --> 00:40:01.416
Yeah? And then it's up to him. Not you.
624
00:40:01.416 --> 00:40:03.208
Not me. Him.
625
00:40:07.791 --> 00:40:09.000
[exhales]
626
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.666
An hour of television
can change everything.
627
00:40:15.583 --> 00:40:16.625
It's like magic.
628
00:40:19.208 --> 00:40:23.375
[newswoman] US financier Jeffrey Epstein
has been arrested today
629
00:40:23.375 --> 00:40:25.958
on federal sex trafficking charges.
630
00:40:26.541 --> 00:40:31.666
The disgraced billionaire has been accused
of trafficking dozens of underage girls.
631
00:40:32.291 --> 00:40:35.333
He was previously convicted in 2008
632
00:40:35.333 --> 00:40:38.958
after pleading guilty
to soliciting a minor for prostitution.
633
00:40:40.708 --> 00:40:41.916
How many times?
634
00:40:41.916 --> 00:40:44.541
...will no doubt focus
on Mr. Epstein's friendship...
635
00:40:44.541 --> 00:40:46.125
How many times?
636
00:40:46.125 --> 00:40:48.875
...the Duke of York,
who previously claimed to have cut...
637
00:40:48.875 --> 00:40:49.791
I'm sorry.
638
00:40:49.791 --> 00:40:51.875
...all ties with Epstein in 2010.
639
00:40:55.875 --> 00:40:56.875
[sighs]
640
00:40:56.875 --> 00:41:00.166
Where does he go?
Simple question, where does he go?
641
00:41:01.625 --> 00:41:02.625
[scoffs]
642
00:41:04.583 --> 00:41:05.500
A clue.
643
00:41:07.916 --> 00:41:09.000
He's a marsupial.
644
00:41:12.041 --> 00:41:14.333
Roo. As in Kanga.
645
00:41:16.750 --> 00:41:19.250
Put them together. What do you get?
646
00:41:22.125 --> 00:41:24.208
- Rookanga.
- Oh, go away.
647
00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:27.541
Go away!
648
00:41:29.166 --> 00:41:31.375
[tense music playing]
649
00:41:37.541 --> 00:41:39.541
[indistinct shouting intensifies]
650
00:41:41.708 --> 00:41:46.083
They have acknowledged the duke's
friendship with Mr. Epstein in the past.
651
00:41:46.083 --> 00:41:47.166
They state that...
652
00:41:47.166 --> 00:41:50.291
[Sam] If the prime minister needs
to get this message across to voters,
653
00:41:50.291 --> 00:41:53.541
you're going to need to send us
someone people have actually heard of,
654
00:41:53.541 --> 00:41:57.958
who can form sentences using
more than just single-syllable... words...
655
00:41:57.958 --> 00:41:59.541
...now has the very latest news.
656
00:41:59.541 --> 00:42:02.208
The investigation
surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's arrest
657
00:42:02.208 --> 00:42:04.708 line:5%
three weeks ago for child sex offenses
658
00:42:04.708 --> 00:42:09.291 line:5%
has today widened to include his friend
Prince Andrew, the Duke of York,
659
00:42:09.291 --> 00:42:13.541
as previously suppressed documents
from a case in 2015 come to light.
660
00:42:15.333 --> 00:42:19.416
Virginia Giuffre,
17 at the time of the allegations,
661
00:42:19.416 --> 00:42:23.041
claims in newly released documents
that she had sex with the Duke of York
662
00:42:23.041 --> 00:42:24.791
on three separate occasions.
663
00:42:24.791 --> 00:42:28.250
Twice in London, and once
in Mr. Epstein's home in New York.
664
00:42:29.791 --> 00:42:32.666
[female reporter]
While Buckingham Palace continue to deny
665
00:42:32.666 --> 00:42:35.916 line:5%
these latest allegations
against the Duke of York,
666
00:42:35.916 --> 00:42:40.083 line:5%
Virginia Giuffre told reporters
outside a court in Manhattan...
667
00:42:40.083 --> 00:42:41.000
[scoffs]
668
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.125
It's not true.
669
00:42:42.833 --> 00:42:44.750
I mean, none of it is true.
670
00:42:44.750 --> 00:42:47.375
- ...the deepening crisis surrounding Andrew...
- [scoffs]
671
00:42:52.708 --> 00:42:55.000
The morning I went away
to boarding school...
672
00:42:57.625 --> 00:42:58.958
Mummy combed my hair.
673
00:43:03.166 --> 00:43:05.916
It was one of those tortoiseshell combs.
Remember those?
674
00:43:08.958 --> 00:43:11.666
I can feel it now,
scraping across my head.
675
00:43:15.083 --> 00:43:16.666
It hurt, but I... [sighs]
676
00:43:19.500 --> 00:43:21.250
But I didn't want it to stop.
677
00:43:26.250 --> 00:43:29.625
So Jason says... n-nothing changes.
678
00:43:29.625 --> 00:43:31.708
We... hold our nerve.
679
00:43:34.541 --> 00:43:35.958
Is that what you think?
680
00:43:38.791 --> 00:43:40.375
Let's see how it plays out.
681
00:43:46.416 --> 00:43:47.583
[exhales sharply]
682
00:43:56.625 --> 00:43:59.750
I'm supposed to be talking to Mummy
about my 60th birthday.
683
00:44:03.625 --> 00:44:04.833
She's got big plans.
684
00:44:04.833 --> 00:44:06.916
[tense warbling music builds slowly]
685
00:44:26.125 --> 00:44:28.458
[anchor 1] Mr. Epstein,
arrested just over a month ago,
686
00:44:28.458 --> 00:44:29.916
was found dead this morning
687
00:44:29.916 --> 00:44:31.916
in his cell at the Metropolitan...
688
00:44:31.916 --> 00:44:34.833
[anchor 2] He once counted among
his friends Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew...
689
00:44:34.833 --> 00:44:37.041
[anchor 3] He was in cardiac arrest
and pronounced dead...
690
00:44:37.041 --> 00:44:39.666
[anchor 4] ...charged on trafficking
dozens of girls for sex...
691
00:44:39.666 --> 00:44:42.541
- [anchor 5] ...six underage victims...
- [anchor 6] ...involving underage girls...
692
00:44:42.541 --> 00:44:45.208
[anchor 7] ...including Donald Trump,
liked beautiful women...
693
00:44:45.208 --> 00:44:47.833
[anchor 8] ...categorically denied
by the royal family.
694
00:44:47.833 --> 00:44:52.458
[Esme] All across the world, every paper,
every show on every news channel,
695
00:44:52.458 --> 00:44:54.875
this is the story. The only story.
696
00:44:54.875 --> 00:44:56.125
- Morning.
- Morning.
697
00:44:56.125 --> 00:44:57.791
Sam, I want it for us.
698
00:44:58.791 --> 00:44:59.875
For Newsnight.
699
00:44:59.875 --> 00:45:02.583
You got your foot in the door
before anyone else.
700
00:45:04.750 --> 00:45:06.375
[phone buzzing]
701
00:45:09.583 --> 00:45:11.958
[Sam] Amanda. Hi, it's Sam McAlister.
702
00:45:12.583 --> 00:45:13.625
Please call me.
703
00:45:14.916 --> 00:45:16.958
When you're ready to talk, we're here.
704
00:45:25.375 --> 00:45:26.541
[Amanda sighs]
705
00:45:37.750 --> 00:45:43.000
Her Majesty combing your hair
on your last morning at home...
706
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:46.833
Yes?
707
00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:53.000
[Amanda] You remembering it
and talking about it...
708
00:45:55.500 --> 00:45:56.333
Yes?
709
00:45:58.041 --> 00:46:00.041
[Amanda]
I think there's a reason for that.
710
00:46:03.625 --> 00:46:05.625
I think you want your future back.
711
00:46:07.833 --> 00:46:08.708
We both do.
712
00:46:13.416 --> 00:46:14.416
Let me help you.
713
00:46:17.166 --> 00:46:20.458
[man on TV] ...relationship
with Epstein will persist.
714
00:46:21.041 --> 00:46:26.625
Now, of course, the duke, the Palace
are desperate to move on from this issue,
715
00:46:26.625 --> 00:46:28.333
but with today's news,
716
00:46:28.333 --> 00:46:32.500
the prospect of that
seems further away than ever.
717
00:46:33.375 --> 00:46:35.916
No commitments, no promises.
718
00:46:35.916 --> 00:46:38.166
- [Esme] But?
- They've agreed to meet.
719
00:46:39.625 --> 00:46:43.375
Right. This stays in this room,
just the four of us.
720
00:46:43.375 --> 00:46:46.541
If it leaks that we're even meeting,
they could get spooked.
721
00:46:46.541 --> 00:46:49.333
Sam, whatever you need, it's yours.
722
00:46:49.333 --> 00:46:52.500
Actually, there was one thing.
I think it will help a lot.
723
00:46:52.500 --> 00:46:53.416
[Esme] Name it.
724
00:46:54.041 --> 00:46:55.208
Emily.
725
00:46:55.208 --> 00:46:57.166
[upbeat music plays]
726
00:47:03.666 --> 00:47:06.500
I've never been
smuggled into a palace before.
727
00:47:12.666 --> 00:47:14.666
[overlapping chatter]
728
00:47:15.875 --> 00:47:17.166
[Stewart] Keep it light.
729
00:47:17.875 --> 00:47:19.791
- [Sam] Mm.
- We don't scare him off.
730
00:47:20.958 --> 00:47:22.125
We, uh... we play nice.
731
00:47:23.291 --> 00:47:24.125
Be respectful.
732
00:47:25.375 --> 00:47:26.916
Relax, I've got this.
733
00:47:28.125 --> 00:47:30.416
How difficult can it be
talking to the Queen's son
734
00:47:30.416 --> 00:47:33.000
about his friendship
with a convicted sex offender?
735
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:34.083
[sighs]
736
00:47:34.083 --> 00:47:35.083
Good morning.
737
00:47:35.708 --> 00:47:36.833
[Andrew] Hello, everyone.
738
00:47:37.833 --> 00:47:40.250
I hope you don't mind,
I brought someone along.
739
00:47:40.750 --> 00:47:42.916
- Hello.
- You know my daughter Beatrice.
740
00:47:43.833 --> 00:47:44.666
Hello.
741
00:47:46.583 --> 00:47:50.125
[Emily] I can't tell you
what the questions will be
742
00:47:50.125 --> 00:47:53.125
because I don't know myself yet.
743
00:47:54.250 --> 00:47:55.916
But when I do know...
744
00:47:57.500 --> 00:47:58.583
I still won't tell you.
745
00:47:58.583 --> 00:47:59.791
[light chuckling]
746
00:48:02.583 --> 00:48:04.791
But... they will be fair.
747
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.500
And no "gotchas," I promise.
748
00:48:11.041 --> 00:48:12.000
"Will be"?
749
00:48:13.958 --> 00:48:16.666
"Would be," I think you mean.
750
00:48:16.666 --> 00:48:18.583
Were we to agree to do this.
751
00:48:19.208 --> 00:48:20.541
And Pitch@Palace?
752
00:48:22.166 --> 00:48:24.875
We'll discuss that, of course.
753
00:48:25.583 --> 00:48:29.416
But... you know as well as I do,
754
00:48:29.416 --> 00:48:31.083
that's not why we're here.
755
00:48:33.250 --> 00:48:34.083
Epstein.
756
00:48:36.291 --> 00:48:37.875
This is about honesty.
757
00:48:39.458 --> 00:48:40.458
On both sides.
758
00:48:47.625 --> 00:48:51.333
If I do an interview, it will only be one.
759
00:48:52.208 --> 00:48:54.125
Uh, the question is, why you?
760
00:48:57.125 --> 00:49:00.625
- [Emily] Stewart?
- Well, um, Newsnight is forensic.
761
00:49:01.416 --> 00:49:04.375
Um, it's tough, but never sensational.
And so is Emily.
762
00:49:04.958 --> 00:49:07.041
- And she's a woman.
- And she's a woman.
763
00:49:07.875 --> 00:49:09.083
And she's here.
764
00:49:09.083 --> 00:49:10.583
[light chuckling]
765
00:49:12.791 --> 00:49:14.375
Um... [sighs deeply]
766
00:49:15.833 --> 00:49:19.708
Look, in my position,
767
00:49:21.250 --> 00:49:24.416
with everything that's been, um... said,
768
00:49:24.416 --> 00:49:27.125
and with the world as it is now, I...
769
00:49:28.416 --> 00:49:31.958
It's hard to imagine how
I can turn it around. Frankly. I mean...
770
00:49:31.958 --> 00:49:36.125
I... I have a lot of people telling me
it's a mistake even being in this room.
771
00:49:36.958 --> 00:49:38.583
[Sam] And yet here you are.
772
00:49:39.666 --> 00:49:41.416
And I can promise you one thing.
773
00:49:41.416 --> 00:49:44.833
You can't turn it around
by staying silent.
774
00:49:46.750 --> 00:49:49.208
You know how people see you, don't you?
775
00:49:52.208 --> 00:49:55.208
Why don't you... spell it out?
776
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.125
Randy Andy.
777
00:50:04.625 --> 00:50:06.291
Air Miles Andy.
778
00:50:06.291 --> 00:50:08.833
This is sex, and girls,
779
00:50:08.833 --> 00:50:12.500
and planes and private islands and money.
780
00:50:12.500 --> 00:50:15.666
And, with respect,
the public see these stories,
781
00:50:15.666 --> 00:50:18.000
and they think, "Yep, I can believe that."
782
00:50:19.666 --> 00:50:22.333
This isn't bad for your brand.
783
00:50:23.291 --> 00:50:25.750
This is your brand.
784
00:50:30.666 --> 00:50:31.708
"With respect"?
785
00:50:36.083 --> 00:50:38.166
[laughing]
786
00:50:38.166 --> 00:50:39.125
Well...
787
00:50:39.625 --> 00:50:41.791
Sort of got a point. [laughs]
788
00:50:41.791 --> 00:50:43.125
[Sam] Listen, I get it.
789
00:50:43.125 --> 00:50:47.750
"Never complain, never explain."
But I'm afraid those days are over.
790
00:50:47.750 --> 00:50:50.375
Yes, everyone has a voice now.
791
00:50:50.375 --> 00:50:52.458
Social media. Facebook.
792
00:50:52.458 --> 00:50:54.750
Twitter. Everyone's having their say,
793
00:50:55.625 --> 00:50:57.291
and what they're saying about you
794
00:50:58.208 --> 00:51:03.166
is a lot... stronger
than anything I just said.
795
00:51:06.166 --> 00:51:09.833
- Have you seen Twitter?
- No, I don't, uh, pay attention to that.
796
00:51:09.833 --> 00:51:10.916
[Beatrice] I do.
797
00:51:12.208 --> 00:51:13.958
A lot worse than what she said.
798
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.125
[pensive music builds slowly]
799
00:51:18.125 --> 00:51:20.708
So I'm just saying that's the story,
800
00:51:21.625 --> 00:51:23.208
and it doesn't change
801
00:51:23.208 --> 00:51:25.166
unless you change it,
802
00:51:25.166 --> 00:51:27.541
unless you tell us a different story.
803
00:51:30.666 --> 00:51:32.958
Your story.
804
00:51:33.958 --> 00:51:35.166
In your voice.
805
00:51:44.833 --> 00:51:45.750
[Emily] Sam's right.
806
00:51:47.625 --> 00:51:48.458
I mean,
807
00:51:49.500 --> 00:51:52.208
I might not have said it
quite so bluntly, but...
808
00:51:54.958 --> 00:51:56.291
[Andrew] Well... [sighs]
809
00:51:56.291 --> 00:52:00.250
I don't understand why everyone's obsessed
with my friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.
810
00:52:00.750 --> 00:52:02.583
I knew Jimmy Savile so much better.
811
00:52:03.166 --> 00:52:05.625
[laughs] Um...
812
00:52:06.458 --> 00:52:08.750
Thank you very much.
Very nice to meet you.
813
00:52:08.750 --> 00:52:13.333
Um, should we pop up and say hello
to Mummy before the Commonwealth banquet?
814
00:52:13.833 --> 00:52:14.875
Never ends, does it?
815
00:52:14.875 --> 00:52:17.583
Um, Amanda will be in touch,
one way or another.
816
00:52:21.458 --> 00:52:24.333
- [Emily] Her mummy or his mummy?
- [Sam] Fergie's not here.
817
00:52:24.333 --> 00:52:25.333
She's abroad.
818
00:52:26.583 --> 00:52:29.208
- So his mummy.
- Okay, wow. Bloody hell.
819
00:52:30.416 --> 00:52:31.666
Mummy might block it.
820
00:52:32.291 --> 00:52:33.125
Yeah.
821
00:52:34.125 --> 00:52:35.208
Christ, I'm tired.
822
00:52:35.708 --> 00:52:37.500
Pretty punchy in there, Sammy.
823
00:52:38.166 --> 00:52:39.125
Nice work.
824
00:52:41.666 --> 00:52:43.041
[Jason] Conditions, Amanda?
825
00:52:44.333 --> 00:52:46.375
You... You discussed conditions.
826
00:52:48.333 --> 00:52:51.333
I... I didn't agree to anything.
827
00:52:51.333 --> 00:52:53.625
It... It's not like that.
828
00:52:53.625 --> 00:52:54.833
Amanda.
829
00:52:55.833 --> 00:52:57.416
What conditions?
830
00:52:58.041 --> 00:53:04.041
The only thing that matters is
that he is given the space to talk to us.
831
00:53:06.083 --> 00:53:07.166
"Us"?
832
00:53:08.416 --> 00:53:09.250
The nation.
833
00:53:09.250 --> 00:53:10.500
Oh my God.
834
00:53:11.916 --> 00:53:14.000
[chuckles, sighs]
835
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:15.125
I can't do this.
836
00:53:17.458 --> 00:53:18.916
- Mm.
- No.
837
00:53:20.541 --> 00:53:21.750
I'm out.
838
00:53:26.166 --> 00:53:27.041
I understand.
839
00:53:30.458 --> 00:53:31.500
[scoffs]
840
00:53:40.375 --> 00:53:42.958
If they agree, and if it happens,
841
00:53:42.958 --> 00:53:44.291
it's 60 minutes.
842
00:53:44.291 --> 00:53:46.875
"If it happens"? What could stop us?
843
00:53:46.875 --> 00:53:49.500
Something high up.
This is the royal family and the BBC.
844
00:53:49.500 --> 00:53:52.750
People start talking about
the national interest and make no mistake,
845
00:53:53.291 --> 00:53:57.583
if we get this, and we pull it off,
it will be front page of every paper.
846
00:53:57.583 --> 00:53:59.958
But if we get it wrong,
if we make mistakes,
847
00:53:59.958 --> 00:54:01.708
if we don't get the tone right,
848
00:54:02.208 --> 00:54:04.791
the story won't be him. It'll be us.
849
00:54:05.500 --> 00:54:06.458
No, it won't.
850
00:54:07.583 --> 00:54:08.625
It'll be me.
851
00:54:08.625 --> 00:54:10.458
[pensive music plays]
852
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.500
[footsteps approaching]
853
00:54:26.166 --> 00:54:27.458
[sighs deeply]
854
00:54:30.916 --> 00:54:32.541
She's always right, isn't she?
855
00:54:33.833 --> 00:54:34.666
Always.
856
00:54:38.250 --> 00:54:39.250
What did she say?
857
00:54:43.166 --> 00:54:44.750
She trusts my judgment.
858
00:54:52.791 --> 00:54:54.625
[musical ringtone playing]
859
00:55:01.750 --> 00:55:02.791
[Sam] Great.
860
00:55:12.375 --> 00:55:13.875
Amanda Thirsk called.
861
00:55:14.666 --> 00:55:16.125
Thursday, 2:00 p.m. The Palace.
862
00:55:16.125 --> 00:55:18.125
[all breathing deeply]
863
00:55:18.125 --> 00:55:19.125
We're on.
864
00:55:20.416 --> 00:55:23.333
Got 70 hours.
Emily, you're spending them with me.
865
00:55:23.333 --> 00:55:26.791
Stewart, you're producing.
Sam, anyone who needs you, gets you.
866
00:55:26.791 --> 00:55:28.041
Yes, is Fran there?
867
00:55:28.958 --> 00:55:30.500
Yes, extremely urgent.
868
00:55:32.500 --> 00:55:35.166
With the director-general? Which opera?
869
00:55:35.166 --> 00:55:37.583
[woman singing opera in distance]
870
00:55:37.583 --> 00:55:38.791
[Fran] When it's done,
871
00:55:38.791 --> 00:55:42.083
nobody sees the cut
until the DG and I have seen it.
872
00:55:42.750 --> 00:55:44.583
[opera singing continues]
873
00:55:44.583 --> 00:55:46.166
Lovely to see you both.
874
00:55:52.083 --> 00:55:54.083
Tony's keeping his options open.
875
00:55:54.583 --> 00:55:57.166
Well, it's not over
till the fat lady sings.
876
00:55:59.375 --> 00:56:01.416
[Esme] So the question is,
877
00:56:01.916 --> 00:56:04.083
what are we looking for?
878
00:56:04.583 --> 00:56:06.708
A confession?
879
00:56:06.708 --> 00:56:08.916
String of denials?
880
00:56:08.916 --> 00:56:10.166
An apology?
881
00:56:10.166 --> 00:56:13.041
No way he's confessing
unless he wants to go to jail,
882
00:56:13.041 --> 00:56:17.541
and we're not settling for an apology,
so we go after him hard with the facts.
883
00:56:17.541 --> 00:56:20.458
- Fine. So where do we start?
- [Freddy] Mm.
884
00:56:20.458 --> 00:56:24.916
July 15th, 2006. Jeffrey Epstein,
Ghislaine Maxwell, and Harvey Weinstein
885
00:56:24.916 --> 00:56:27.750
are at Beatrice's
Victorian-themed 18th birthday party.
886
00:56:27.750 --> 00:56:31.000
Epstein wore white with gold buttons
and a chestful of medals.
887
00:56:31.500 --> 00:56:33.708
His Florida home
had just been raided by police.
888
00:56:33.708 --> 00:56:36.041
Sorry, that's a lot to take in, in one go.
889
00:56:36.041 --> 00:56:37.875
July 15th, 2006,
890
00:56:37.875 --> 00:56:40.416
Epstein, Maxwell, and Harvey Weinstein
891
00:56:40.416 --> 00:56:43.791
are all at Beatrice's
Victorian-themed 18th birthday party.
892
00:56:44.291 --> 00:56:47.833
Epstein wore white with gold buttons
and a chestful of medals.
893
00:56:48.333 --> 00:56:50.500
His Florida home
had just been raided by police.
894
00:56:50.500 --> 00:56:52.625
Sorry, that's a lot to take in, in one go.
895
00:56:52.625 --> 00:56:54.708
[all laughing]
896
00:56:54.708 --> 00:56:57.416
That is fantastic. Nowhere to hide.
897
00:56:58.416 --> 00:57:01.041
[Freddy] Andrew's tried to make it seem
his friendship with Ghislaine
898
00:57:01.041 --> 00:57:03.625
was the main reason
he spent time with Epstein.
899
00:57:04.125 --> 00:57:07.375
Problem is, it looks like
she was absolutely complicit
900
00:57:07.375 --> 00:57:09.583
in so much of what Epstein was doing.
901
00:57:15.208 --> 00:57:18.750
This painting of Clinton...
That's the Lewinsky dress.
902
00:57:18.750 --> 00:57:21.041
[Freddy] Yep. Epstein had it on his wall.
903
00:57:24.541 --> 00:57:28.458
There was a life-sized naked doll
hanging from a chandelier.
904
00:57:29.166 --> 00:57:30.291
A massage room.
905
00:57:30.916 --> 00:57:32.583
Soap shaped like genitalia.
906
00:57:33.875 --> 00:57:36.625
You couldn't be anywhere near Epstein
and not know.
907
00:57:40.208 --> 00:57:43.708
[Sam's mum] You know Lucas can
stay here tonight if you have to work.
908
00:57:43.708 --> 00:57:46.166
No, it's fine. They don't need me anyway.
909
00:57:47.375 --> 00:57:48.958
I don't believe that for a second.
910
00:57:50.916 --> 00:57:52.708
Then why didn't they ask me to stay, Mum?
911
00:57:52.708 --> 00:57:56.166
I bring in the interview,
and they still don't want me in the room.
912
00:57:56.166 --> 00:57:58.958
Sam, you know how this works.
913
00:57:59.875 --> 00:58:02.000
People like us, we don't wait to be asked.
914
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:03.750
We do what we have to do.
915
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.125
Did they ask you
to go after Prince Andrew?
916
00:58:08.125 --> 00:58:10.583
- No.
- No, they didn't.
917
00:58:10.583 --> 00:58:11.500
But you did.
918
00:58:12.250 --> 00:58:13.208
Remember that.
919
00:58:14.583 --> 00:58:16.333
And this interview,
920
00:58:17.708 --> 00:58:18.625
does it matter?
921
00:58:21.458 --> 00:58:22.750
Yeah, it matters.
922
00:58:23.833 --> 00:58:25.208
Well, there you go, then.
923
00:58:25.208 --> 00:58:27.291
[footsteps in lobby]
924
00:58:31.208 --> 00:58:32.833
Love you, Mum. [chuckles softly]
925
00:58:32.833 --> 00:58:34.583
I love you too, sweetheart.
926
00:58:36.375 --> 00:58:37.291
[sniffs]
927
00:58:40.500 --> 00:58:42.500
[gentle music builds slowly]
928
00:59:13.375 --> 00:59:14.875
[sighs deeply]
929
00:59:19.041 --> 00:59:21.041
[musical ringtone playing]
930
00:59:24.875 --> 00:59:25.708
Hello.
931
00:59:26.500 --> 00:59:27.833
[Amanda] Sam. Uh...
932
00:59:29.666 --> 00:59:31.125
I hope it's not too early.
933
00:59:32.583 --> 00:59:36.916
[Esme] And the 29th. And you've got,
what, everything from the 17th of June?
934
00:59:36.916 --> 00:59:38.000
[Freddy] That's right.
935
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.208
- Can you put those on a memory stick?
- Yeah.
936
00:59:40.208 --> 00:59:41.291
[Sam] Amanda called.
937
00:59:44.083 --> 00:59:45.500
Is she pulling the plug?
938
00:59:47.708 --> 00:59:48.875
South Drawing Room.
939
00:59:49.666 --> 00:59:52.291
Two chairs in the middle of the floor.
Six feet apart.
940
00:59:53.500 --> 00:59:54.708
It's like a western.
941
00:59:55.500 --> 00:59:57.791
Like a gunfight in a western.
942
00:59:57.791 --> 01:00:00.250
[tense music builds slowly]
943
01:00:06.583 --> 01:00:07.958
- Right.
- Huh.
944
01:00:08.708 --> 01:00:09.875
All set?
945
01:00:11.083 --> 01:00:11.916
[Esme] Emily.
946
01:00:12.666 --> 01:00:13.541
What's wrong?
947
01:00:15.166 --> 01:00:17.625
What if he just apologizes?
948
01:00:17.625 --> 01:00:21.166
What if I lay out all the facts,
949
01:00:21.166 --> 01:00:25.625
he doesn't admit to anything,
but he does say sorry?
950
01:00:28.291 --> 01:00:30.125
What if he's good, Esme?
951
01:00:30.125 --> 01:00:31.958
Then it'll be great television.
952
01:00:32.625 --> 01:00:34.333
Well, that's not why I'm doing it.
953
01:00:34.833 --> 01:00:36.208
Well, why are you doing it?
954
01:00:40.208 --> 01:00:41.208
Monica Lewinsky.
955
01:00:42.541 --> 01:00:46.125
I feel like I let women down
by not asking Clinton about her.
956
01:00:46.125 --> 01:00:49.541
Sex with that woman
was actually consensual.
957
01:00:49.541 --> 01:00:52.958
She was 21.
He was the president of the United States.
958
01:00:53.666 --> 01:00:57.291
He got his life back.
She got decades of vicious misogyny.
959
01:00:59.166 --> 01:01:00.000
You push.
960
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.000
What?
961
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:04.500
If he's good, if he's saying sorry
for what these girls went through,
962
01:01:04.500 --> 01:01:08.458
then... lean in and ask him
if he feels responsible as well as sorry.
963
01:01:08.458 --> 01:01:09.583
[Emily] What if he says no?
964
01:01:09.583 --> 01:01:12.583
Push again, with the photograph.
Show him the picture. Here.
965
01:01:15.041 --> 01:01:15.958
Here.
966
01:01:19.958 --> 01:01:22.916
But this photograph... is you.
967
01:01:22.916 --> 01:01:25.583
I don't believe I was ever there,
968
01:01:26.458 --> 01:01:29.458
that I ever even went upstairs
in that house.
969
01:01:29.458 --> 01:01:32.833
Um... You don't recollect,
Your Royal Highness.
970
01:01:33.583 --> 01:01:34.583
Yes, of course.
971
01:01:34.583 --> 01:01:36.750
So... it's a fake?
972
01:01:36.750 --> 01:01:38.208
[Andrew] As I say,
973
01:01:38.208 --> 01:01:41.958
I have no recollection
of ever having been there
974
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:44.625
or even meeting that woman.
975
01:01:44.625 --> 01:01:48.208
Ms. Roberts.
Please don't ever say "that woman."
976
01:01:48.208 --> 01:01:49.125
Ever.
977
01:01:49.125 --> 01:01:51.750
- Oh, for heaven's sake.
- I understand this is difficult.
978
01:01:51.750 --> 01:01:53.250
And, of course,
979
01:01:53.250 --> 01:01:56.583
you couldn't have been there
on that date, correct?
980
01:01:58.291 --> 01:01:59.166
Hm.
981
01:01:59.833 --> 01:02:03.708
You have denied, many times,
982
01:02:03.708 --> 01:02:07.583
having even met Virginia Giuffre.
983
01:02:07.583 --> 01:02:12.625
You have denied
her extremely serious allegations
984
01:02:12.625 --> 01:02:16.041
that she was forced to have sex with you
985
01:02:16.041 --> 01:02:19.833
when she was just 17 years old.
986
01:02:19.833 --> 01:02:22.250
Now, either this happened
987
01:02:23.625 --> 01:02:25.125
or she's lying.
988
01:02:25.125 --> 01:02:26.333
Which is it?
989
01:02:27.833 --> 01:02:28.750
[exhales]
990
01:02:30.500 --> 01:02:31.958
Bingo. Brilliant.
991
01:02:32.958 --> 01:02:33.791
We got him.
992
01:02:45.375 --> 01:02:46.208
Sam.
993
01:02:48.083 --> 01:02:48.916
Tell me.
994
01:02:50.875 --> 01:02:51.750
Nothing.
995
01:02:52.416 --> 01:02:53.291
Tell me.
996
01:02:54.875 --> 01:02:56.583
I'm going in there. You're not.
997
01:02:56.583 --> 01:02:59.041
If you have something to say,
I want to hear it.
998
01:02:59.625 --> 01:03:01.375
[inhales deeply, sighs]
999
01:03:01.375 --> 01:03:05.666
It's just we offered him... space and time.
1000
01:03:06.625 --> 01:03:08.666
We offered him an interview.
1001
01:03:10.416 --> 01:03:13.583
Men like that hate it
when they're not heard.
1002
01:03:13.583 --> 01:03:15.125
He'll want to be heard.
1003
01:03:25.708 --> 01:03:29.750
So the really big question...
is what do I wear?
1004
01:03:29.750 --> 01:03:30.708
[laughter]
1005
01:03:30.708 --> 01:03:31.958
Black dress.
1006
01:03:32.750 --> 01:03:34.541
Simple, elegant.
1007
01:03:34.541 --> 01:03:35.750
Hepburn/Maitlis.
1008
01:03:36.625 --> 01:03:37.666
My knees.
1009
01:03:38.416 --> 01:03:39.958
You've got the best knees on TV.
1010
01:03:39.958 --> 01:03:42.083
I don't want people looking at my knees.
1011
01:03:42.083 --> 01:03:45.416
You don't want him looking at your knees.
Actually, we do want him looking.
1012
01:03:45.416 --> 01:03:47.458
- That would be good TV.
- [chuckling]
1013
01:03:47.458 --> 01:03:49.166
[exhales deeply]
1014
01:03:52.250 --> 01:03:53.125
[Esme] Emily?
1015
01:03:55.875 --> 01:03:56.833
Go home.
1016
01:03:57.500 --> 01:03:59.500
I want you raring to go in the morning.
1017
01:04:07.458 --> 01:04:08.750
[Emily] 2006.
1018
01:04:09.250 --> 01:04:13.125
Epstein was convicted of trafficking girls
as young as 14.
1019
01:04:13.750 --> 01:04:18.250
Yet you continued relations with him
for another four years.
1020
01:04:18.958 --> 01:04:20.333
And yet you...
1021
01:04:20.333 --> 01:04:25.625
and yet you continued
your friendship with him until 2010.
1022
01:04:25.625 --> 01:04:27.708
[tense music plays softly]
1023
01:04:29.500 --> 01:04:31.833
[panting] And yet you continued...
1024
01:04:32.333 --> 01:04:33.333
- [dog barks]
- Moody!
1025
01:04:38.541 --> 01:04:40.541
[tense music builds slowly]
1026
01:04:54.166 --> 01:04:58.500
That's great. Yeah, just in this room.
All right. Through there.
1027
01:04:59.416 --> 01:05:00.958
Moody!
1028
01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:05.375
- ID, please, miss.
- Yeah, um...
1029
01:05:07.750 --> 01:05:09.000
She's with me.
1030
01:05:09.500 --> 01:05:10.375
Thanks!
1031
01:05:12.625 --> 01:05:13.458
Thanks.
1032
01:05:20.375 --> 01:05:21.208
[sighs]
1033
01:05:26.500 --> 01:05:28.833
You chase them, you'll never catch them.
1034
01:05:29.458 --> 01:05:32.208
And then when they're ready to come,
you won't be there.
1035
01:05:39.125 --> 01:05:42.750
He might walk out. If Emily's doing to him
what I think, it's a strong possibility.
1036
01:05:42.750 --> 01:05:44.458
If he does, film it.
1037
01:05:44.458 --> 01:05:47.750
- Whatever he does, do not stop filming.
- Stewart.
1038
01:05:49.208 --> 01:05:50.458
- Right.
- Um...
1039
01:05:54.458 --> 01:05:55.666
Your Royal Highness.
1040
01:06:23.708 --> 01:06:25.000
[Andrew] Sure about this?
1041
01:06:26.208 --> 01:06:27.250
Little bit, um...
1042
01:06:28.125 --> 01:06:30.250
[woman] A bit of powder,
Your Royal Highness?
1043
01:06:30.250 --> 01:06:31.875
- Sure. What's your name?
- Cat.
1044
01:06:31.875 --> 01:06:33.375
- Okay? First question.
- Yeah.
1045
01:06:33.375 --> 01:06:37.000
I want it to set the tone. Straight in.
"Jeffrey Epstein was a child abuser."
1046
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.041
"You knew that when you went
to stay with him, didn't you?"
1047
01:06:40.041 --> 01:06:42.875
Only one answer to that.
Already he's got nowhere to go.
1048
01:06:42.875 --> 01:06:45.625
[Andrew] No, this needs
to be on the other side.
1049
01:06:45.625 --> 01:06:48.625
It's going through
the opposite edge of the chair.
1050
01:06:48.625 --> 01:06:50.458
That way, it won't stick out.
1051
01:06:51.208 --> 01:06:52.375
- Oh God.
- No, wait.
1052
01:06:53.791 --> 01:06:56.458
Let him be. We want him to be comfortable.
1053
01:07:00.750 --> 01:07:01.583
Trousers.
1054
01:07:05.833 --> 01:07:06.791
[chuckles]
1055
01:07:10.625 --> 01:07:12.625
[bell ringing]
1056
01:07:12.625 --> 01:07:13.916
[Andrew grunts]
1057
01:07:13.916 --> 01:07:16.000
[stark, pensive music plays]
1058
01:07:24.375 --> 01:07:25.666
Just, uh...
1059
01:07:27.541 --> 01:07:30.083
Just... be yourself.
1060
01:07:37.208 --> 01:07:38.250
[Sam clears throat]
1061
01:07:41.166 --> 01:07:42.458
[Sam] That's not great.
1062
01:07:42.958 --> 01:07:46.333
Donal McCabe.
He's from the Queen's press office.
1063
01:07:46.333 --> 01:07:48.416
[Stewart] We didn't agree to that, did we?
1064
01:07:48.916 --> 01:07:50.041
[Sam] With the Queen?
1065
01:07:50.833 --> 01:07:53.166
No. But by all means, take it up with her.
1066
01:07:53.166 --> 01:07:54.375
[chuckles lightly]
1067
01:07:59.416 --> 01:08:00.500
[woman] Sound speed.
1068
01:08:03.250 --> 01:08:05.250
[clock ticking]
1069
01:08:07.833 --> 01:08:08.833
[man] Set.
1070
01:08:10.125 --> 01:08:11.625
Your Royal Highness.
1071
01:08:12.666 --> 01:08:15.583
We've come to Buckingham Palace
1072
01:08:15.583 --> 01:08:19.416
in highly unusual circumstances.
1073
01:08:20.291 --> 01:08:22.250
Normally, we'd be discussing your work...
1074
01:08:22.250 --> 01:08:23.583
- [Andrew] Mm.
- ...your duty.
1075
01:08:23.583 --> 01:08:24.833
We'll come on to that.
1076
01:08:25.375 --> 01:08:26.375
But today,
1077
01:08:27.125 --> 01:08:30.250
you've chosen to speak out
for the first time.
1078
01:08:31.125 --> 01:08:34.375
Why have you decided to talk now?
1079
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.375
Because there is no good time
1080
01:08:41.958 --> 01:08:45.541
to talk about, um... Mr. Epstein
1081
01:08:45.541 --> 01:08:48.125
and all things associated.
1082
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:52.250
And we've been talking
to Newsnight for some time
1083
01:08:52.250 --> 01:08:56.500
about, um, doing something
around the work that I was doing.
1084
01:08:56.500 --> 01:08:58.750
And unfortunately,
we've just not been able
1085
01:08:58.750 --> 01:09:03.333
to fit into either your schedule
or my schedule until now... now.
1086
01:09:03.333 --> 01:09:08.583
Actually, it's a very good opportunity.
I'm delighted to be able to see you today.
1087
01:09:09.541 --> 01:09:10.583
As you say,
1088
01:09:11.875 --> 01:09:15.500
it all goes back to your friendship
with Jeffrey Epstein.
1089
01:09:15.500 --> 01:09:16.625
Hmm.
1090
01:09:17.583 --> 01:09:20.333
How did you first become friends?
1091
01:09:20.333 --> 01:09:21.750
How did you meet?
1092
01:09:21.750 --> 01:09:25.500
Well, I met through his girlfriend.
1093
01:09:25.500 --> 01:09:26.416
Um...
1094
01:09:26.416 --> 01:09:27.958
Back in 1999.
1095
01:09:27.958 --> 01:09:30.666
[whispers] It's too open. It's too easy.
1096
01:09:30.666 --> 01:09:33.375
[Andrew] I'd known Ghislaine
since university. In the UK.
1097
01:09:34.041 --> 01:09:37.500
And, um, I didn't spend much time...
1098
01:09:38.916 --> 01:09:43.958
I suppose I saw him once or twice a year,
perhaps maximum three times a year,
1099
01:09:43.958 --> 01:09:50.083
and... quite often, um, if I was
in the United States and doing things,
1100
01:09:50.083 --> 01:09:52.541
and he wasn't there, he'd say,
1101
01:09:53.041 --> 01:09:56.000
"Why don't you come and use my houses?"
1102
01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:58.166
And I said, "Thank you very much indeed."
1103
01:09:58.166 --> 01:10:04.250
But it would be... a considerable stretch
to say that we were very close friends.
1104
01:10:04.250 --> 01:10:06.833
But he had the most extraordinary ability
1105
01:10:06.833 --> 01:10:11.583
to, um... to bring...
extraordinary people together.
1106
01:10:11.583 --> 01:10:14.041
And that's the bit that I remember.
1107
01:10:14.041 --> 01:10:17.541
It's going to dinner parties
where you would meet...
1108
01:10:17.541 --> 01:10:18.500
What's she doing?
1109
01:10:18.500 --> 01:10:20.833
...academics, politicians...
1110
01:10:20.833 --> 01:10:22.625
She's letting him talk.
1111
01:10:22.625 --> 01:10:26.000
[Andrew] It was a cosmopolitan group
of what I would call--
1112
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.416
Did you trust him?
1113
01:10:30.375 --> 01:10:31.416
[hesitates] Um...
1114
01:10:31.416 --> 01:10:33.125
Yes, I think I probably did,
1115
01:10:33.125 --> 01:10:34.750
but, um...
1116
01:10:36.250 --> 01:10:40.625
Obviously, I don't go into...
um, a friendship
1117
01:10:41.166 --> 01:10:45.375
looking for the... the wrong thing,
if you understand what I mean.
1118
01:10:45.375 --> 01:10:47.458
I... I'm an engaging person.
1119
01:10:47.458 --> 01:10:50.000
I want to be able to engage.
1120
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.916
Am I right in thinking
you threw a birthday party
1121
01:10:53.916 --> 01:10:58.916
for Epstein's girlfriend,
Ghislaine Maxwell, at Sandringham?
1122
01:10:59.583 --> 01:11:02.500
No, it was a shooting weekend.
1123
01:11:02.500 --> 01:11:03.583
A shooting weekend?
1124
01:11:03.583 --> 01:11:06.916
Yes, just a straightforward...
straightforward shooting weekend.
1125
01:11:08.708 --> 01:11:14.166
But during these times
that he was a guest at Windsor Castle,
1126
01:11:14.166 --> 01:11:16.666
at Sandringham, this shooting weekend...
1127
01:11:16.666 --> 01:11:17.750
Yep.
1128
01:11:17.750 --> 01:11:21.583
We now know... that he had been
1129
01:11:22.125 --> 01:11:26.416
procuring young girls...
for sex trafficking.
1130
01:11:32.250 --> 01:11:34.541
We now know that.
1131
01:11:36.041 --> 01:11:37.208
At the time,
1132
01:11:38.125 --> 01:11:40.125
there was no indication,
1133
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.583
to me... or anybody else,
1134
01:11:44.583 --> 01:11:47.833
that that's what he was doing.
1135
01:11:48.708 --> 01:11:50.958
Absolutely no indication.
1136
01:11:50.958 --> 01:11:52.333
- [knocking]
- [inhales]
1137
01:11:52.333 --> 01:11:54.125
Flight logs for Epstein's jet.
1138
01:11:54.125 --> 01:11:56.541
The, uh, quote "Lolita Express."
1139
01:11:57.458 --> 01:12:00.333
PA, Prince Andrew, is a frequent flyer.
1140
01:12:00.333 --> 01:12:01.958
So is BC, Bill,
1141
01:12:01.958 --> 01:12:03.833
and GM, Ghislaine Maxwell.
1142
01:12:04.458 --> 01:12:07.375
Princes, presidents, and females.
1143
01:12:08.541 --> 01:12:09.875
The girls don't get named.
1144
01:12:11.125 --> 01:12:14.625
Just so our ducks are in a row
when all of Fleet Street comes knocking.
1145
01:12:16.125 --> 01:12:19.708
Just for the record,
you've been on his private plane.
1146
01:12:20.375 --> 01:12:21.208
Yes.
1147
01:12:21.708 --> 01:12:24.750
You've been to stay on his private island.
1148
01:12:25.250 --> 01:12:26.083
Yes.
1149
01:12:26.583 --> 01:12:29.750
You've stayed at his home in Palm Beach.
1150
01:12:30.291 --> 01:12:31.125
Yes.
1151
01:12:31.125 --> 01:12:34.708
So, in 2006, in May,
1152
01:12:35.500 --> 01:12:38.875
an arrest warrant was issued for Epstein
1153
01:12:38.875 --> 01:12:41.750
for sexual assault of a minor.
1154
01:12:41.750 --> 01:12:42.833
Yes.
1155
01:12:42.833 --> 01:12:47.458
He was released in July of 2010.
1156
01:12:47.458 --> 01:12:48.916
And within months,
1157
01:12:49.541 --> 01:12:52.541
you went to stay with him
at his New York mansion.
1158
01:12:56.041 --> 01:12:56.875
Why?
1159
01:12:57.708 --> 01:13:01.750
Why were you staying
with a convicted sex offender?
1160
01:13:04.791 --> 01:13:09.791
Now, I went to see him
with the sole purpose of saying to him
1161
01:13:09.791 --> 01:13:14.625
that because he had been convicted,
1162
01:13:15.416 --> 01:13:20.500
it was inappropriate
that we should be seen together.
1163
01:13:20.500 --> 01:13:25.125
I felt that doing it over the telephone
was the chicken's way of doing it.
1164
01:13:25.125 --> 01:13:27.625
I had to go and see him and talk to him.
1165
01:13:28.458 --> 01:13:31.708
I went to see him. We had an opportunity
to go for a walk in the park,
1166
01:13:31.708 --> 01:13:35.208
and that was the... uh, conversation,
1167
01:13:35.208 --> 01:13:36.750
coincidentally,
1168
01:13:36.750 --> 01:13:38.958
that was photographed.
1169
01:13:39.750 --> 01:13:45.958
When I... I said to him, I said,
"Look, because of what has... happened,
1170
01:13:47.208 --> 01:13:52.708
I don't think it is appropriate
for us to remain in contact."
1171
01:13:53.375 --> 01:13:54.916
And by mutual decision,
1172
01:13:55.416 --> 01:13:58.458
we agreed to part company, and I left.
1173
01:13:58.458 --> 01:14:02.958
He threw a party to celebrate his release,
1174
01:14:03.500 --> 01:14:06.458
and you were invited as a guest of honor.
1175
01:14:06.458 --> 01:14:07.625
No, I didn't go.
1176
01:14:11.125 --> 01:14:12.541
Oh, in 2010.
1177
01:14:13.333 --> 01:14:17.083
There... Well, there...
There certainly wasn't a... a party
1178
01:14:17.083 --> 01:14:23.708
to celebrate his release in... December,
because it was only a small dinner party.
1179
01:14:23.708 --> 01:14:26.208
There were only
eight or ten of us at the dinner.
1180
01:14:26.208 --> 01:14:28.250
If there was a... a party,
1181
01:14:28.250 --> 01:14:29.916
then I know nothing about that.
1182
01:14:29.916 --> 01:14:32.041
You were invited to that dinner
1183
01:14:32.791 --> 01:14:34.041
as a guest of honor.
1184
01:14:35.166 --> 01:14:39.166
I was there, so I was at the dinner.
I don't think it was as you might put it,
1185
01:14:39.166 --> 01:14:41.708
but, okay, I was there.
I was there at a dinner.
1186
01:14:41.708 --> 01:14:43.333
I'm just trying to work this out
1187
01:14:43.333 --> 01:14:46.666
because you said
you went to break up the relationship,
1188
01:14:46.666 --> 01:14:51.750
and yet you stayed
at that New York mansion several days.
1189
01:14:51.750 --> 01:14:53.166
I'm wondering how long--
1190
01:14:53.166 --> 01:14:55.583
I was doing a number
of other things while I was there.
1191
01:14:55.583 --> 01:14:58.583
But you were staying at the house
of a convicted sex offender.
1192
01:14:58.583 --> 01:15:00.708
It was a convenient place to stay.
1193
01:15:02.750 --> 01:15:04.750
[brooding music plays softly]
1194
01:15:12.708 --> 01:15:14.416
So I've spoken to Panorama.
1195
01:15:14.416 --> 01:15:17.625
Virginia Roberts says the original photo
was printed and date stamped
1196
01:15:17.625 --> 01:15:19.416
two days after it was taken,
1197
01:15:19.416 --> 01:15:22.500
and we have an affidavit
from a witness in 2001
1198
01:15:22.500 --> 01:15:24.375
who saw the photo at the time.
1199
01:15:25.916 --> 01:15:27.458
- Freddy?
- Yeah?
1200
01:15:27.458 --> 01:15:28.458
Thank you.
1201
01:15:28.458 --> 01:15:29.416
Yeah.
1202
01:15:30.916 --> 01:15:33.708
[Emily] One of Epstein's accusers,
1203
01:15:33.708 --> 01:15:35.000
Virginia Roberts,
1204
01:15:35.708 --> 01:15:39.125
made allegations against you.
1205
01:15:39.125 --> 01:15:41.916
In a legal deposition,
1206
01:15:42.833 --> 01:15:47.875
she said she had sex with you three times.
1207
01:15:48.750 --> 01:15:51.166
Once in a London house
1208
01:15:51.166 --> 01:15:55.333
when she was trafficked to you
in Maxwell's house.
1209
01:15:55.333 --> 01:15:56.250
[softly] Uh...
1210
01:15:56.250 --> 01:15:59.458
Once... in New York
1211
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:03.958
a month or so later in Epstein's mansion,
1212
01:16:03.958 --> 01:16:06.791
and once on his private island,
1213
01:16:07.500 --> 01:16:11.625
in a group of seven or eight other girls.
1214
01:16:14.875 --> 01:16:16.166
No. [scoffs]
1215
01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:19.375
No to all of it?
1216
01:16:19.375 --> 01:16:20.291
All of it.
1217
01:16:20.875 --> 01:16:25.250
Absolutely no to all of it.
1218
01:16:26.333 --> 01:16:30.125
Are you saying you don't believe her?
1219
01:16:30.666 --> 01:16:31.833
She's lying?
1220
01:16:36.041 --> 01:16:40.541
That's a difficult thing
for me to, um... answer
1221
01:16:40.541 --> 01:16:43.833
because I don't know
1222
01:16:44.666 --> 01:16:48.208
what she's, um, trying to achieve.
1223
01:16:48.208 --> 01:16:50.166
But I can tell you...
1224
01:16:51.208 --> 01:16:53.333
uh... categorically,
1225
01:16:54.458 --> 01:16:57.458
I don't remember meeting her at all.
1226
01:16:58.333 --> 01:17:01.750
I do not remember
a photograph being taken,
1227
01:17:02.250 --> 01:17:03.416
and I've said,
1228
01:17:04.041 --> 01:17:07.375
consistently and, um...
1229
01:17:08.291 --> 01:17:09.416
frequently,
1230
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:15.250
that we never had
any sort of sexual contact whatever.
1231
01:17:17.041 --> 01:17:21.791
She says she met you in 2001.
1232
01:17:23.041 --> 01:17:25.041
She says she dined with you,
1233
01:17:25.833 --> 01:17:27.458
danced with you.
1234
01:17:27.458 --> 01:17:29.125
You bought her drinks
1235
01:17:29.875 --> 01:17:32.250
at Tramp nightclub in London.
1236
01:17:32.250 --> 01:17:35.375
There's a number of things wrong
with that story. One of which is that...
1237
01:17:36.500 --> 01:17:42.833
I don't know where the bar is in Tramps.
1238
01:17:44.416 --> 01:17:45.291
Um...
1239
01:17:46.041 --> 01:17:47.666
Um, I don't drink.
1240
01:17:49.541 --> 01:17:56.125
Um, I... I don't think I've ever bought
a drink in Tramps whenever I was there.
1241
01:17:56.125 --> 01:17:58.416
Do you remember dancing with her?
1242
01:17:59.333 --> 01:18:03.291
No, that couldn't have happened
because on that particular date,
1243
01:18:03.291 --> 01:18:06.083
I was, um, at home.
I was with the children.
1244
01:18:06.083 --> 01:18:11.083
And I had taken Beatrice
to a Pizza Express in Woking
1245
01:18:11.666 --> 01:18:16.666
for a party, I think...
round about 4:00, 5:00 in the afternoon.
1246
01:18:16.666 --> 01:18:19.916
Why would you remember that
so specifically?
1247
01:18:21.416 --> 01:18:25.166
Because going to Pizza Express in Woking
1248
01:18:26.041 --> 01:18:28.625
is an unusual thing for me to do.
1249
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.083
A very unusual thing for me to do.
1250
01:18:35.875 --> 01:18:37.333
Uh, stop. Um...
1251
01:18:37.833 --> 01:18:38.708
Can... Can we?
1252
01:18:39.416 --> 01:18:41.958
Please, um, I would like to go back.
1253
01:18:41.958 --> 01:18:45.750
I would like to make a...
a specific reference to the date.
1254
01:18:45.750 --> 01:18:46.791
March the 10th.
1255
01:18:46.791 --> 01:18:49.125
I think it's perfectly clear.
Do we need that?
1256
01:18:49.125 --> 01:18:51.250
I think we're rolling well,
don't you, Emily?
1257
01:18:53.291 --> 01:18:54.208
- No?
- No.
1258
01:18:58.125 --> 01:18:59.083
[scoffs]
1259
01:19:03.208 --> 01:19:07.833
- She was very specific about that night.
- Mm-hmm.
1260
01:19:07.833 --> 01:19:10.583
She described dancing with you.
1261
01:19:10.583 --> 01:19:13.041
- No.
- And you profusely sweating.
1262
01:19:13.041 --> 01:19:14.083
[scoffs]
1263
01:19:15.541 --> 01:19:20.041
Um, there's a... there's a, um...
a slight problem with the sweating.
1264
01:19:20.041 --> 01:19:24.833
But... because I have, um,
a... peculiar condition,
1265
01:19:24.833 --> 01:19:28.250
which is that I don't sweat,
or rather I didn't sweat at the time.
1266
01:19:28.250 --> 01:19:30.500
And that would, um... Oh, actually...
1267
01:19:30.500 --> 01:19:33.083
Yes, I didn't sweat at the time,
1268
01:19:33.083 --> 01:19:34.916
and that's because I suffered
1269
01:19:34.916 --> 01:19:40.291
what I would describe as an overdose
of adrenaline in the Falklands War
1270
01:19:40.291 --> 01:19:42.666
when I was shot at, and I simply, um...
1271
01:19:42.666 --> 01:19:46.708
it... it... it was almost impossible
for me to... to... to sweat.
1272
01:19:53.458 --> 01:19:54.541
I wonder
1273
01:19:56.333 --> 01:19:59.041
if you have any sense of
1274
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.708
guilt, regret, or shame
1275
01:20:06.041 --> 01:20:08.625
about any of your behavior
1276
01:20:09.250 --> 01:20:11.500
in your friendship with Epstein.
1277
01:20:16.500 --> 01:20:17.500
On balance...
1278
01:20:19.875 --> 01:20:24.000
could I have avoided... ever meeting him?
1279
01:20:25.041 --> 01:20:25.875
Mm...
1280
01:20:26.750 --> 01:20:28.000
I don't think so,
1281
01:20:28.541 --> 01:20:32.000
and that's because of
my friendship with Ghislaine.
1282
01:20:34.833 --> 01:20:38.000
[sighs through lips] Do I regret the fact
1283
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:44.000
that he's quite obviously, uh,
conducted himself in a manner unbecoming...
1284
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.208
[Emily] "Unbecoming"?
He was a sex offender.
1285
01:20:47.208 --> 01:20:49.250
Yes, I'm sorry. I... I was being polite.
1286
01:20:49.250 --> 01:20:52.833
I mean, in the sense that
he was a sex offender. But, no, um...
1287
01:20:53.958 --> 01:20:57.583
Was I right in having him as a friend?
1288
01:20:58.583 --> 01:20:59.500
Um...
1289
01:21:00.833 --> 01:21:01.833
At the time,
1290
01:21:02.958 --> 01:21:08.583
bearing in mind this was some years before
he was accused of being a sex offender,
1291
01:21:10.708 --> 01:21:14.875
I don't think
there was anything wrong... then.
1292
01:21:16.333 --> 01:21:23.125
The problem was, after the fact,
that after he had been convicted...
1293
01:21:23.125 --> 01:21:25.041
- You stayed with him.
- I stayed with him.
1294
01:21:25.041 --> 01:21:28.083
And that's the bit that, um, as it were,
1295
01:21:28.083 --> 01:21:30.583
I kick myself for
on a daily basis. [chuckles]
1296
01:21:30.583 --> 01:21:34.833
Because that... it was... it was not, um,
becoming of a member of the royal family,
1297
01:21:34.833 --> 01:21:39.000
and we... we try to uphold
the highest standards and practices,
1298
01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:41.916
and I... I let the side down,
simple as that.
1299
01:21:53.541 --> 01:21:55.541
- [music fades]
- [clock ticking]
1300
01:21:59.250 --> 01:22:04.958
Is there anything
you feel has been left unsaid
1301
01:22:05.583 --> 01:22:07.541
that you would like to say now?
1302
01:22:10.916 --> 01:22:12.041
No, I don't think so.
1303
01:22:13.166 --> 01:22:17.875
You probably dragged out of me
most of what's required.
1304
01:22:17.875 --> 01:22:19.958
[breathes deeply]
1305
01:22:21.333 --> 01:22:22.958
[tense music playing]
1306
01:22:22.958 --> 01:22:25.125
[camera whirring]
1307
01:22:25.125 --> 01:22:26.250
[exhales deeply]
1308
01:22:26.916 --> 01:22:27.833
I'm gonna go.
1309
01:22:29.625 --> 01:22:32.458
I have a biker downstairs.
The memory cards. Both copies...
1310
01:22:32.458 --> 01:22:34.583
Now, would you all like a tour?
1311
01:22:34.583 --> 01:22:35.583
Some stills?
1312
01:22:36.208 --> 01:22:39.666
Ah. Yes, of course. Um...
Tell you what, two birds, one stone.
1313
01:22:39.666 --> 01:22:42.041
You take your snaps
while I show Emily around.
1314
01:22:42.041 --> 01:22:44.125
[unsettling music intensifies]
1315
01:22:46.083 --> 01:22:48.083
[soundscape distorts eerily]
1316
01:23:00.875 --> 01:23:02.541
[distorted] Wasn't he wonderful?
1317
01:23:04.458 --> 01:23:05.583
[softly] Wonderful.
1318
01:23:09.041 --> 01:23:10.375
[music fades]
1319
01:23:10.375 --> 01:23:11.833
[sighs]
1320
01:23:11.833 --> 01:23:13.791
[tense music builds]
1321
01:23:24.208 --> 01:23:26.333
- [chattering indistinctly]
- [camera clicks]
1322
01:23:35.666 --> 01:23:37.250
[music fades out]
1323
01:23:37.250 --> 01:23:39.500
You know, I thought
that all went very well.
1324
01:23:41.458 --> 01:23:43.083
Like a walk in the park.
1325
01:23:49.916 --> 01:23:51.916
[pensive music plays]
1326
01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:56.041
[clattering]
1327
01:23:59.250 --> 01:24:00.791
Expecting a car, madam?
1328
01:24:00.791 --> 01:24:03.250
Uh... Uh, no. Thank you.
1329
01:24:03.250 --> 01:24:05.750
Um... I think I'm going to walk.
1330
01:24:05.750 --> 01:24:06.791
But thank you.
1331
01:24:18.666 --> 01:24:20.750
- I think I might be sick.
- [both chuckle]
1332
01:24:45.708 --> 01:24:46.958
Emily. That was...
1333
01:24:46.958 --> 01:24:49.041
[breathes deeply]
1334
01:24:49.041 --> 01:24:52.041
That was him... right there. You did it.
1335
01:24:54.041 --> 01:24:54.875
We did it.
1336
01:24:57.250 --> 01:24:58.458
Thanks, Sammy.
1337
01:25:01.333 --> 01:25:03.875
[pensive music continues]
1338
01:25:09.166 --> 01:25:10.458
[Stewart] How are we doing?
1339
01:25:10.458 --> 01:25:12.791
Twitter teasers are nearly ready.
When do we go live?
1340
01:25:12.791 --> 01:25:15.125
[Stewart] I'm gonna talk
to the DG about that now.
1341
01:25:22.208 --> 01:25:23.083
[chuckles softly]
1342
01:25:24.625 --> 01:25:28.500
She had her man in the room when you shot
the interview. He recorded it. Yes?
1343
01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:30.916
Could she stop it going out, Tony?
1344
01:25:30.916 --> 01:25:34.875
Well, she is the Queen.
I mean, I'd have to take the call.
1345
01:25:34.875 --> 01:25:37.541
We want to trail it on Friday night
after the show, live.
1346
01:25:37.541 --> 01:25:38.875
With Emily?
1347
01:25:38.875 --> 01:25:41.208
Of course.
With teasers on socials afterwards.
1348
01:25:41.208 --> 01:25:44.083
[Tony] I'll tell the Palace
we're broadcasting on Saturday night.
1349
01:25:44.083 --> 01:25:45.666
Wait for me to get back to you.
1350
01:25:51.458 --> 01:25:52.875
[doors opening]
1351
01:26:00.333 --> 01:26:01.166
How long?
1352
01:26:01.666 --> 01:26:02.500
Fifteen minutes.
1353
01:26:03.375 --> 01:26:05.708
[Emily] I guess no news is good news.
1354
01:26:06.291 --> 01:26:07.125
Oh...
1355
01:26:11.416 --> 01:26:12.416
- Tony?
- Esme, hi.
1356
01:26:16.791 --> 01:26:18.958
Pull the trigger. We're on.
1357
01:26:20.041 --> 01:26:23.208
Tomorrow night,
in a Newsnight special program,
1358
01:26:23.750 --> 01:26:29.250
we will hear for the first time
from the duke himself.
1359
01:26:29.833 --> 01:26:31.666
In an unprecedented interview,
1360
01:26:31.666 --> 01:26:35.958
he speaks to us at length
about his friendship with Epstein
1361
01:26:36.500 --> 01:26:38.625
and the claims made against him.
1362
01:26:39.333 --> 01:26:42.666
Prince Andrew, the Duke of York,
1363
01:26:43.333 --> 01:26:48.333
has long faced questions about his ties
to the financier Jeffrey Epstein,
1364
01:26:48.958 --> 01:26:51.166
who took his life earlier this year
1365
01:26:51.166 --> 01:26:53.333
while awaiting trial on sex...
1366
01:26:53.333 --> 01:26:55.375
[gentle anticipative music builds slowly]
1367
01:26:55.375 --> 01:26:57.458
[notification alerts chime faintly]
1368
01:27:07.583 --> 01:27:09.500
[phone buzzes]
1369
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:37.708
[music trails off]
1370
01:27:47.416 --> 01:27:50.375
- Where does this bloody dust come from?
- I know, sir.
1371
01:27:53.625 --> 01:27:55.083
[elevator dings]
1372
01:27:55.083 --> 01:27:59.083
[Amanda] "For the prince, the whole
nerve-shredding exercise is designed
1373
01:27:59.083 --> 01:28:01.541
to show that he has nothing to hide."
1374
01:28:02.875 --> 01:28:06.250
"It will show that he has been
wholly honest and truthful."
1375
01:28:07.333 --> 01:28:11.416
"'In a way,' says a friend,
'he is saying, "Judge me.""
1376
01:28:15.416 --> 01:28:17.083
It's... It's excellent, isn't it?
1377
01:28:17.916 --> 01:28:19.000
Huh.
1378
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:21.041
It's... It's exactly the right tone.
1379
01:28:21.041 --> 01:28:22.666
- [sighs]
- Very good.
1380
01:28:24.541 --> 01:28:26.875
Would you...
Would you like me to be here tonight
1381
01:28:27.375 --> 01:28:29.375
when it... goes out?
1382
01:28:30.666 --> 01:28:31.916
Oh, no, I don't think so.
1383
01:28:32.666 --> 01:28:35.875
No, I really don't think that's necessary.
1384
01:28:39.208 --> 01:28:40.541
[positive music playing]
1385
01:28:40.541 --> 01:28:42.291
- [door opens]
- [Sam's mum] Hello!
1386
01:28:42.291 --> 01:28:43.666
Nana, this is Freya.
1387
01:28:43.666 --> 01:28:46.291
- Hello. Come in. Come in.
- Freya, this is Netta.
1388
01:28:46.291 --> 01:28:47.250
Hello.
1389
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:49.291
[kissing]
1390
01:28:54.166 --> 01:28:55.791
[jingle playing on TV]
1391
01:29:06.958 --> 01:29:07.916
[grunts softly]
1392
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:11.333
Um, in... In fact, I'm convinced
1393
01:29:12.041 --> 01:29:16.333
that I was never in Tramps with her.
1394
01:29:16.333 --> 01:29:19.625
There's a number of things wrong
with that story. One of which is that...
1395
01:29:19.625 --> 01:29:22.791
I don't know where the bar is.
1396
01:29:27.208 --> 01:29:29.208
[notifications whirring rapidly]
1397
01:29:31.625 --> 01:29:37.125
I have a, um... a peculiar condition,
which is that I don't sweat,
1398
01:29:37.125 --> 01:29:40.208
or rather I didn't sweat at the time.
And that would...
1399
01:29:40.208 --> 01:29:42.875
and that is because I had suffered
1400
01:29:42.875 --> 01:29:47.791
what I would describe as an overdose
of adrenaline in the Falklands War.
1401
01:29:47.791 --> 01:29:51.291
Because going to Pizza Express in Woking
1402
01:29:52.291 --> 01:29:54.791
is an unusual thing for me to do.
1403
01:29:55.375 --> 01:29:58.583
A very unusual thing for me to do.
1404
01:30:03.500 --> 01:30:08.041
[Emily] So, if Virginia Roberts
is watching this interview,
1405
01:30:08.666 --> 01:30:10.416
what's your message to her?
1406
01:30:14.791 --> 01:30:16.666
I don't have a message for her
1407
01:30:16.666 --> 01:30:19.375
because I have to have...
1408
01:30:19.375 --> 01:30:21.416
She gives him every chance.
1409
01:30:21.416 --> 01:30:24.750
And if somebody's going to make
these sorts of allegations...
1410
01:30:24.750 --> 01:30:27.750
[notification alerts chiming]
1411
01:30:27.750 --> 01:30:32.208
[Andrew] We try and uphold
the highest standards and practices,
1412
01:30:32.208 --> 01:30:35.625
and, um, I let the side down,
simple as that.
1413
01:30:36.333 --> 01:30:37.166
Christ's sake.
1414
01:30:42.041 --> 01:30:43.208 line:5%
[phone chiming, vibrating]
1415
01:30:43.208 --> 01:30:45.458 line:5%
[Emily] ...you feel you'd like to say...
1416
01:30:46.208 --> 01:30:47.500
that has been left unsaid?
1417
01:30:48.833 --> 01:30:50.833
[notification alerts chiming]
1418
01:30:51.458 --> 01:30:53.333
[Andrew] No, I don't think so.
1419
01:30:53.333 --> 01:30:58.625
You probably dragged out of me
most of what's required.
1420
01:31:01.250 --> 01:31:03.250
[pensive music builds slowly]
1421
01:31:08.875 --> 01:31:10.500
[Lucas] We're gonna sit up front, Mum.
1422
01:31:59.583 --> 01:32:01.416
[music fades out]
1423
01:32:01.416 --> 01:32:03.500
[clock ticking]
1424
01:32:12.041 --> 01:32:14.041
[footsteps approaching]
1425
01:32:15.041 --> 01:32:16.333
Your Royal Highness.
1426
01:32:19.958 --> 01:32:21.125
[Andrew] Mm.
1427
01:32:26.166 --> 01:32:28.166
[gentle music plays softly]
1428
01:32:30.583 --> 01:32:32.500
[clicking, whirring]
1429
01:32:35.041 --> 01:32:36.666
- [cameras clicking]
- [man 1] Amanda!
1430
01:32:36.666 --> 01:32:38.333
[man 2] Amanda, a quick statement.
1431
01:32:38.333 --> 01:32:39.958
[all clamoring]
1432
01:32:39.958 --> 01:32:42.041
[indistinct overlapping shouting]
1433
01:32:46.583 --> 01:32:47.958
Would you like to comment?
1434
01:32:47.958 --> 01:32:49.625
[clicking, whirring]
1435
01:33:04.166 --> 01:33:07.333
The Palace have just released
a statement from the Duke of York.
1436
01:33:08.958 --> 01:33:11.625
"I have asked Her Majesty
if I may step back
1437
01:33:12.416 --> 01:33:14.666
from public duties
for the foreseeable future,
1438
01:33:14.666 --> 01:33:16.458
and she has given me her permission."
1439
01:33:19.208 --> 01:33:21.041
"I continue to unequivocally regret
1440
01:33:21.041 --> 01:33:23.916
my ill-judged association
with Jeffrey Epstein."
1441
01:33:24.541 --> 01:33:27.958
"His suicide has left
many unanswered questions,
1442
01:33:27.958 --> 01:33:29.791
particularly for his victims."
1443
01:33:31.958 --> 01:33:35.583
"I can only hope that in time,
they will be able to rebuild their lives."
1444
01:33:41.291 --> 01:33:42.833
This is what Newsnight is.
1445
01:33:43.750 --> 01:33:47.375
We put the time in...
to get the stories other shows won't.
1446
01:33:49.875 --> 01:33:51.583
Stories that need to be told,
1447
01:33:52.708 --> 01:33:53.875
that people care about,
1448
01:33:54.708 --> 01:33:56.416
hold the powerful to account
1449
01:33:56.416 --> 01:33:58.666
and give victims a voice.
1450
01:33:58.666 --> 01:34:01.083
[all clapping]
1451
01:34:02.083 --> 01:34:03.208
Thank you.
1452
01:34:03.208 --> 01:34:04.208
[chuckles softly]
1453
01:34:10.458 --> 01:34:12.458
[indistinct overlapping chatter]
1454
01:34:46.083 --> 01:34:47.500
Two lamb shawarma.
1455
01:34:47.500 --> 01:34:48.458
The usual.
1456
01:34:48.458 --> 01:34:49.375
Thanks. [chuckles]
1457
01:34:49.375 --> 01:34:52.666
You seen this?
Love to be there when they filmed that!
1458
01:34:57.166 --> 01:34:58.541
Yeah, I did. I saw it.
1459
01:35:01.166 --> 01:35:02.291
- Thanks.
- Bye.
1460
01:35:05.541 --> 01:35:07.541
[energetic pensive music playing]
1461
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:05.000 line:5%
[pulsing pensive music builds]
1462
01:39:57.166 --> 01:39:59.166
[energetic music plays]
1463
01:40:32.041 --> 01:40:34.250
[music trails off]