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Basically, our forte is harmonics,

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'cause there's a certain family blend.

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Three brothers: Brian, Dennis and Carl,

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a cousin, Mike Love,
and our good friend Al Jardine.

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That's family to me.

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Ladies and gentlemen,

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would you please welcome,
from Southern California,

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America's band, The Beach Boys!

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I like it. I like it.

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<i>There is no other. There is only one.</i>

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<i>They've broken records everywhere.</i>

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<i>Ladies and gentlemen, The Beach Boys!</i>

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<i>♪ Well, she got her daddy's car ♪</i>

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<i>♪ and she cruised through
the hamburger stand, now ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Seems she forgot all about the library
like she told her old man, now ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And with the radio blasting ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Goes cruising
Just as fast as she can, now ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And she'll have fun, fun, fun ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Now that Daddy took the T-bird away ♪</i>

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The Beach Boys
just represented some sort of fantasy.

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It was a pure California phenomenon.

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We've known each other
for a really long time.

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And there really is a great deal
of fellowship in the group.

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And we've been through an awful lot.

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<i>♪ Wouldn't it be nice if we were older? ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Then we wouldn't have to wait so long ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And wouldn't it be nice
to live together ♪</i>

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<i>♪ In the kind of world where we belong? ♪</i>

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It's kinda miraculous that
it's lasted for 60 years now.

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But the fact that it was a family,
that's where the success came from.

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{\an8}<i>♪ You know it seems
the more we talk about it ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ It only makes it worse
to live without it ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ But let's talk about it ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Oh, wouldn't it be nice? ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Good night, my baby ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Sleep tight, my baby ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Good night, my baby ♪</i>

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<i>Here we go.
Play hard and strong all the way.</i>

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<i>And watch me on that part now.</i>

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<i>Twenty-eight.</i>

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When I assess the totality of it all,

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The Beach Boys are a family story.

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There has definitely been ups and downs.

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We've probably been counted out
as a group, um, half a dozen times.

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When I was young,
I learned to sing harmony with my family.

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That was a long time ago.

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I remember the songs,
the lyrics, and a lot of fun.

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I'm very proud of my brothers.

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Let's try it
one more time from the top.

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One, two, one, two...

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<i>♪ M ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I say M-O ♪</i>

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I had two things
I wanted to do in my life.

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One, I wanted to be a psychologist,
you know?

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{\an8}And two, I wanted to be a baseball player.

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<i>♪ Mop, mop, mop, mop ♪</i>

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But I never really set music as my goal.

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My dad and my mom always put on records.

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And I said,
"What's that? I love that sound!"

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My dad was a songwriter,

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and he had a minor R & B hit.

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But, you know,
my mom was actually the musician,

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{\an8}so she would play and my dad would write.

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{\an8}So there was a lot of music in the house.

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My mom and dad
both really loved older tunes.

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But I was more interested
with rock and roll.

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<i>♪ In the heat of the day
down in Mobile, Alabama ♪</i>

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And I'll never forget
the feeling in my body.

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It was like electricity.

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I'd never experienced
that kind of excitement.

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Chuck Berry was the reason
I started playing the guitar.

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<i>♪ Payday coming when my work is all done ♪</i>

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On a social level,
I never really spent any time with Brian.

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I spent more time with Carl.
Because I could beat Carl up.

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<i>♪ Everybody's scrambling
and jumping around ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Picking up their money
Tearing the teepee down ♪</i>

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Brian's influence on me
was his love for the music.

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<i>♪ You have to let it roll on ♪</i>

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First time I realized it was--

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We used to sing three-part harmony
in the back seat of a car.

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And that's the birth
of the three brothers singing together.

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When I was about seven,

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we moved into a house on the borderline
between Inglewood and Hawthorne.

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{\an8}And across the street from our house
was the Wilson house.

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As we were moving in, Carl and Dennis
were throwing garbage and old car parts

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across the street.

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And saying,
"Inglewood sucks. Hawthorne rules!"

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That was our introduction.

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And I didn't like my parents very much,
so I hung out at the Wilsons'.

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The Wilson household
was a tract home in Hawthorne.

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{\an8}And the garage was converted
into a music room.

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And we would spend hours
listening to music and singing.

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And the big event of the year
for us would be to go over to Mike Love's

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at Christmastime because the Loves
would have a big Christmas caroling party.

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Growing up as the first cousin
of the Wilsons,

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it was such a family hobby
harmonizing together.

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And we had a grand piano,
an organ and a harp in our living room.

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Brian and I hit it off
because we were about a year apart in age,

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and we liked a lot of the same music.

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A lot of the doo-wop. The Everly Brothers.

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The Four Freshmen.

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The Four Freshmen were probably
the greatest four-part harmony group

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{\an8}that ever lived.

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The notes were close together,
which gave it a warmth and a vibration.

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It was a lot of fun singing together.

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But Brian somehow figured out the chords
the Four Freshmen were doing just by ear.

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That was--
That was a whole different world.

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Brian was spending hours every day
at the piano

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just going over and over
these Four Freshmen arrangements.

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<i>♪ It's a blue world ♪</i>

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I never quit.

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{\an8}To where I knew that what was on
my piano was exactly on their record.

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<i>♪ It's a blue world ♪</i>

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I went and did that on, like,
20 different songs,

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which was my entire harmonic education.

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Later on, he started making up
his own arrangements.

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He would ask me to sing a harmony part
that he'd make up.

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And I remember wanting to go out and play,
and he'd say, "Mom, make Carl sing."

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Brian and I
were on the football team in high school.

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And I'd heard his band
at the high school assembly,

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and that's really
what got my brain going, "Wow!"

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I was a guitar player, and I was
very impressed with his little quartet.

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Including his brother Carl,

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with Brian taking the falsetto.

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And I thought we should hook up.

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We bumped into each other
after graduation.

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Brian said, "You know, I think
I should introduce you to my brothers

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and my cousin,
because we need more voices."

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So he invited me over to the house,
and we all just clicked.

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We were like notes on a keyboard.

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<i>Now, this time
let's sing it out naturally.</i>

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- <i>Don't hold back.</i>
<i>All right.</i>

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Al Jardine, actually, was

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the one person who could maintain
perfect pitch and changing harmonies

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that were derivative of the Four Freshmen.

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<i>Forget time and beat
and everything.</i>

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<i>No! We don't want to forget beat.</i>

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We assembled around the piano
as Brian and his brothers.

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{\an8}Plus me and his cousin Mike.
That was our band.

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{\an8}Our first thing we ever learned

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was a tune called,
"Their Hearts Were Full of Spring."

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<i>♪ There's a story told ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Of a very gentle boy ♪</i>

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Brian would sing
the high part beautifully.

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And I would sing the bass part.

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And then Carl and Al Jardine
could sing really well and blend.

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See, it wasn't only about the note.
It was about the blend.

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You sublimate your individuality
to create this group harmony sound.

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<i>♪ Their hearts were full of spring ♪</i>

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After that, we'd go,
"Hey, look out for us.

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{\an8}We really harmonize here."

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Then we kind of went the other way.

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Carl and I would hang out
every day after school.

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And we were listening
to a lot of current surf stuff.

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The Ventures.

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The Marketts.

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{\an8}Dick Dale.

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Kids would go to the high-school
auditorium to watch surfing movies.

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And that's what they were using
as background music.

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Surfing was a big deal
in Southern California.

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You dressed a certain way.
You talked a certain way.

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They had a certain attitude.

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We all tried to surf,

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but we could just
never really get the hang of it.

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I went surfing down
on Manhattan Beach Pier.

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It was a big day on the pier, man.
There were great big waves!

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And the first thing I did
was lose my board.

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And I almost drowned.
Brian was the same way.

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I tried the one time, and the board missed
my head by that far.

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I never tried again.

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We were landlubbers,
but Dennis was the guy.

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I was into surfing.

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{\an8}I was into cutting class,

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sneaking off to the beach.

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I love the ocean.

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Dennis and I went
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{\an8}and we came back to the Wilson house,
and Dennis brought it up to Brian,

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he said, "Why don't we do something
lyrically about surfing?"

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At the time,
surf music was primarily instrumental.

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The bands were instrumental bands.

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So, I just got with Brian
and came up with...

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<i>♪ Surfin' is the only life
The only way for me ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Now surf
Surf ♪</i>

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The first time The Beach Boys
got together as a band to rehearse...

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{\an8}my folks went to Mexico City on business.

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They left us 200 bucks for food.

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The money ran out immediately.

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I said, "Brian,
we can't just sit around and sing.

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We gotta rent some instruments."

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{\an8}So I said, "Well, I think my mother,
Virginia, would probably help us out

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{\an8}if we audition for her."

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{\an8}We sang
"Their Hearts Were Full of Spring."

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That was our go-to song.

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And she was spellbound.

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She gave us the $300
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and she said, "Go for it."

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Gives me chills just thinking about it.

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<i>Put the monitor on.</i>

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<i>♪ Surfin', surfin' ♪</i>

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<i>Hey, you're wasting tape.</i>

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<i>Keep your heads up,</i>
and stay on it.

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<i>♪ Surfin', surfin' ♪</i>

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Murry and Audree were only gone
for about two or three weeks,

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but we-- we were a band by then.

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He goes, "I thought that money
was supposed to be for food.

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What are you guys doing?"

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So we played him a song and he goes,
"Hey, I like that."

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My uncle Murry was actually the one
who got us in the studio.

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<i>♪ So come along, baby, and surf ♪</i>

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<i>Okay, boys. Slating.
This will be take one, "Surfin'."</i>

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<i>♪ Surfin' is the only life
The only way for me ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Now surf ♪</i>

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The first session,
Al played acoustic bass.

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I played an acoustic guitar.

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Brian played a drum with a pencil.

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And Michael was on vocals.

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<i>♪ I got up this morning
Turned on my radio ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I was checking out the surfin' scene
To see if I would go ♪</i>

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We were calling ourselves
The Pendletones.

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Those were shirts that all the surfers
were wearing at the time.

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And then somebody from the label
said, "The song is called 'Surfin'.'

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What about The Beach Boys?"

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None of us really liked it.

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And we got stuck with it.

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We put out "Surfin'"
on a small, independent label.

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A month later, we heard it on the radio.

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There was a radio station
that premiered, like, four songs a week.

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And the one that got the most call-ins
won the contest.

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Well, we had a big family.

232
00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:06,424
And they go, "The pick
of the week, 'Surfin'' by The Beach Boys!"

233
00:16:06,424 --> 00:16:08,593
And we were out of our minds.

234
00:16:08,593 --> 00:16:11,846
<i>♪ It's the latest dance craze ♪</i>

235
00:16:11,846 --> 00:16:12,931
<i>♪ We're going surfin' ♪</i>

236
00:16:12,931 --> 00:16:17,310
"Surfin'" went to number two in LA,
and then we started getting gigs.

237
00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:20,230
Played our first show on New Year's Eve.

238
00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:21,940
In the midst of it all,

239
00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:24,275
Dennis was learning the drums
quite proficiently.

240
00:16:24,275 --> 00:16:25,527
I was really impressed.

241
00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:27,612
The way it started out real fast,

242
00:16:27,612 --> 00:16:30,240
{\an8}we didn't have a chance to sit around
and think, "Hey, what happened?"

243
00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,742
{\an8}We were already heading towards something
without really knowing it.

244
00:16:32,742 --> 00:16:34,577
<i>♪ Surfin' is the only life ♪</i>

245
00:16:34,577 --> 00:16:36,454
<i>♪ The only way for me ♪</i>

246
00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,710
We had a hit record. Went to top 10 in LA,
and we were excited as hell.

247
00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:44,295
But I felt like I-- I don't know.

248
00:16:44,295 --> 00:16:46,798
I had to finish my education.
That's what I thought.

249
00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:48,216
My brother is a lawyer.

250
00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:50,927
My father has a business master's degree,
and my mother is--

251
00:16:50,927 --> 00:16:52,470
You know, they all had degrees.

252
00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:54,889
Just felt like I was out of place
for a while.

253
00:16:55,598 --> 00:16:57,600
So I left the band to finish college.

254
00:16:59,102 --> 00:17:01,187
It's the only time Brian
ever got upset with me.

255
00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:09,404
I wasn't in the band,
but I'd been hanging around.

256
00:17:12,073 --> 00:17:13,450
I was, like, 12.

257
00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:16,703
And Carl and I would play guitars
every day after school.

258
00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:20,582
We were developing our own style.

259
00:17:21,875 --> 00:17:25,837
And Brian, his ear picked up on that.

260
00:17:26,588 --> 00:17:28,340
So, all of a sudden...

261
00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:31,593
{\an8}I was a Beach Boy.

262
00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:40,643
After "Surfin'" was a hit,
Brian really wanted a career in music.

263
00:17:40,643 --> 00:17:45,732
So my dad sold his business
and cleared the deck,

264
00:17:46,483 --> 00:17:49,486
and then went about getting us
a record label.

265
00:17:54,657 --> 00:17:57,494
He went around all the record labels
in Hollywood.

266
00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:00,288
Every one of them turned us down.

267
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:05,543
Eventually, a man named Nick Venet,
who worked at Capitol Records,

268
00:18:05,543 --> 00:18:07,629
heard the tape of our stuff.

269
00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:11,383
They had a demo
of "Surfin' Safari."

270
00:18:11,383 --> 00:18:17,013
And every once in a while, you know
that the record is a number one record.

271
00:18:17,806 --> 00:18:22,143
And he goes, "Oh, God.
These records are goddamn smashes."

272
00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:27,774
We were able to sign with
Capitol Records, which was a big deal.

273
00:18:27,774 --> 00:18:28,858
Some great artists on it.

274
00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:33,613
The Four Freshmen were on, and
Frank Sinatra and Nat King Cole, you know?

275
00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,240
I said, "I quit college."

276
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,534
And my brothers said,
"We quit high school."

277
00:18:37,534 --> 00:18:38,702
You know, we quit!

278
00:18:39,536 --> 00:18:42,914
I was the only person
who didn't need the court approval.

279
00:18:42,914 --> 00:18:46,626
{\an8}I was 21 and everybody else
was quite a bit younger.

280
00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:53,216
{\an8}And Capitol Records got us
in the studio immediately.

281
00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:59,097
<i>Yeah. Hey, Dennis.
Don't forget that last verse, okay?</i>

282
00:18:59,597 --> 00:19:02,976
That first recording session
was in the basement of Capitol Records.

283
00:19:04,894 --> 00:19:07,355
<i>Here we go, 38221.</i>

284
00:19:07,355 --> 00:19:10,525
At first, it was really
quite overwhelming, you know?

285
00:19:10,525 --> 00:19:12,902
{\an8}Just to watch the recording process.

286
00:19:12,902 --> 00:19:14,070
<i>We're speeding it a bit.</i>

287
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:16,072
<i>We're rushing it.
Slow it down a little bit.</i>

288
00:19:16,072 --> 00:19:18,867
<i>Get the feel on the bass guitar.
Get that groove going.</i>

289
00:19:18,867 --> 00:19:20,326
<i>There we go. 38221.</i>

290
00:19:22,078 --> 00:19:27,500
Brian's brilliant harmonies, and me
and Carl playing garage grunge guitars.

291
00:19:28,251 --> 00:19:29,794
People never heard anything like that.

292
00:19:29,794 --> 00:19:32,047
<i>All right. This will be take one.</i>

293
00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:35,175
<i>♪ Let's go surfin' now
Everybody's learning how ♪</i>

294
00:19:35,175 --> 00:19:38,470
<i>♪ Come on and safari with me ♪</i>

295
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:39,596
<i>♪ Come on and safari with ♪</i>

296
00:19:39,596 --> 00:19:42,640
<i>♪ Early in the mornin'
We'll be starting out ♪</i>

297
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,226
<i>♪ Some honeys will be coming along ♪</i>

298
00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:48,772
Murry was our manager,
and he was good at promotion.

299
00:19:48,772 --> 00:19:52,192
He would be handing out
pictures to kids in the parking lot.

300
00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:54,277
<i>♪ Come on, baby
Wait and see ♪</i>

301
00:19:54,277 --> 00:19:57,447
I mean,
he was promoting the shit out of us.

302
00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:02,035
<i>Here they are with a big new
hit, The Beach Boys with "Surfin' Safari."</i>

303
00:20:03,745 --> 00:20:06,831
<i>♪ Let's go surfin' now
Everybody's learning how ♪</i>

304
00:20:06,831 --> 00:20:09,918
<i>♪ Come on and safari with me ♪</i>

305
00:20:09,918 --> 00:20:11,252
<i>♪ Come on and safari with ♪</i>

306
00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:19,094
I grew up in Los Angeles,
but I never identified with beach culture.

307
00:20:19,803 --> 00:20:22,847
{\an8}And when I first heard
The Beach Boys' music,

308
00:20:22,847 --> 00:20:26,059
{\an8}my response was to reject it.

309
00:20:26,851 --> 00:20:29,562
They were part of a marketing blitz

310
00:20:29,562 --> 00:20:31,731
for a culture that
I wanted nothing to do with.

311
00:20:32,941 --> 00:20:36,528
The song selection.
The way the album covers were shot.

312
00:20:37,195 --> 00:20:38,780
It was a concocted image.

313
00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:41,616
<i>♪ Let's go surfin' now
Everybody's learning how ♪</i>

314
00:20:41,616 --> 00:20:48,206
And that image of the white,
blond Southern California teenager

315
00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:49,165
took off.

316
00:20:51,001 --> 00:20:56,089
{\an8}<i>♪ If everybody had an ocean
Across the USA ♪</i>

317
00:20:56,756 --> 00:21:02,053
{\an8}<i>♪ Then everybody'd be surfin'
Like Californ-I-A ♪</i>

318
00:21:02,053 --> 00:21:05,056
But the more you listen
to the records they made,

319
00:21:05,056 --> 00:21:06,307
it wasn't about that.

320
00:21:06,975 --> 00:21:08,810
They went beyond surfing.

321
00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:14,524
They were participating in the creation
of a California dream.

322
00:21:14,524 --> 00:21:18,445
- <i>♪ You'll catch 'em surfin' at Del Mar ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Inside, outside USA ♪</i>

323
00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:22,365
I grew up in Detroit.
I had a paper route in the wintertime.

324
00:21:22,365 --> 00:21:24,784
I walked to school in the wintertime.

325
00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:27,579
And then on weekends,
I'd go see <i>Beach Blanket Bingo</i>,

326
00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:28,663
or one of those movies.

327
00:21:28,663 --> 00:21:33,335
{\an8}So, I was aware that there were places
that were warmer.

328
00:21:35,337 --> 00:21:37,589
<i>♪ Surfin' USA ♪</i>

329
00:21:37,589 --> 00:21:42,469
But the most articulate spokespeople
for the California dream

330
00:21:42,469 --> 00:21:43,678
were The Beach Boys.

331
00:21:44,304 --> 00:21:49,267
Man, they made me wanna go
to that place where they had cars

332
00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:52,520
and girls in bikinis and surf boards.

333
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,023
And sun and warmth.

334
00:21:55,023 --> 00:21:56,941
I really wanted to be a part of that.

335
00:21:56,941 --> 00:22:00,820
- <i>♪ Haggerties and Swami's ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Inside, outside USA ♪</i>

336
00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:03,156
I grew up
in a very religious home,

337
00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:06,493
so I was predominantly only allowed
to listen to gospel music.

338
00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:10,455
{\an8}But my mom was okay with me
playing The Beach Boys

339
00:22:10,455 --> 00:22:13,583
{\an8}because she thought
they're positive, they're uplifting.

340
00:22:13,583 --> 00:22:17,879
That was huge for me, um,
because I was obsessed at an early age

341
00:22:17,879 --> 00:22:20,256
with getting out of Oklahoma.

342
00:22:25,595 --> 00:22:29,099
I think particularly landlocked states
dead center of the country,

343
00:22:29,099 --> 00:22:32,394
the appeal was even greater
because it was, like, foreign.

344
00:22:32,394 --> 00:22:33,687
It's a foreign sound.

345
00:22:39,442 --> 00:22:40,610
<i>♪ Everybody's gone surfin' ♪</i>

346
00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:43,196
Their music takes you someplace.

347
00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:45,573
You can listen to "Surfin' U.S.A.,"

348
00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:50,412
and geographically your brain
goes to sunny Southern California.

349
00:22:51,538 --> 00:22:54,666
<i>♪ Everybody's gone surfin' ♪</i>

350
00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:56,668
<i>♪ Surfin' USA ♪</i>

351
00:22:56,668 --> 00:22:58,503
It just hit America
like a big wave.

352
00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:05,719
They were selling an image, and the music
was alive and vibrant and exciting.

353
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,306
All around the world,
people were listening to Beach Boy music.

354
00:23:11,808 --> 00:23:14,394
I was having this, like,
"Gosh, maybe I shouldn't have quit."

355
00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:15,520
Then I got a call.

356
00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:19,524
Brian was frantic.
Says, "I can't do this."

357
00:23:19,524 --> 00:23:22,235
He says, "You gotta come.
You gotta come back to the band."

358
00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:24,612
Brian didn't like touring,

359
00:23:25,655 --> 00:23:29,075
'cause all he wanted to do was stay home
and produce records and write songs.

360
00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:33,371
I was the only one Brian could
reach out to because I knew all the parts.

361
00:23:34,289 --> 00:23:37,042
I thought, you know,
the guys really need me.

362
00:23:37,042 --> 00:23:38,293
I miss the music.

363
00:23:39,085 --> 00:23:40,211
{\an8}So I said, "Okay, Brian.

364
00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:43,715
{\an8}I'm back."

365
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,261
<i>♪ Little deuce coupe
You don't know what I got ♪</i>

366
00:23:48,261 --> 00:23:50,889
The next day,
we were on the road touring.

367
00:23:50,889 --> 00:23:54,517
<i>♪ Well, I'm not bragging, babe
So don't put me down ♪</i>

368
00:23:54,517 --> 00:23:56,519
I can remember
getting to Lake Minnetonka.

369
00:23:56,519 --> 00:24:00,065
People were breaking the windows
trying to get into the place.

370
00:24:00,065 --> 00:24:04,194
And there's still a line of cars
about a mile or two down the road.

371
00:24:08,031 --> 00:24:10,241
I remember the first time
we heard girls screaming.

372
00:24:10,241 --> 00:24:12,369
We thought there was a fire.

373
00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:13,661
We looked around.

374
00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:18,833
We were all just,
you know, having a ball.

375
00:24:19,376 --> 00:24:22,796
And, meanwhile, Brian was able
to stay home and do his thing.

376
00:24:24,255 --> 00:24:26,758
He was writing a ton of songs.

377
00:24:26,758 --> 00:24:28,635
And because we were on tour,

378
00:24:28,635 --> 00:24:31,596
I wasn't the only person writing with him
at that time.

379
00:24:31,596 --> 00:24:33,640
So he co-wrote things with others.

380
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,310
<i>♪ She's got a competition clutch
with the four on the floor ♪</i>

381
00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:40,897
<i>♪ And she purrs like a kitten
'til the lake pipes roar ♪</i>

382
00:24:40,897 --> 00:24:43,650
I enjoyed the road.
I thought it was fun.

383
00:24:43,650 --> 00:24:46,403
But Murry wasn't a very fun road manager.

384
00:24:46,403 --> 00:24:49,030
<i>♪ I got the pink slip, Daddy ♪</i>

385
00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:52,033
On many levels, Murry had a lot to do
with our success.

386
00:24:52,701 --> 00:24:55,453
But Murry started to infringe
on the music.

387
00:24:55,453 --> 00:24:56,913
Oh, he would critique, all right.

388
00:24:56,913 --> 00:24:59,165
He said we didn't know what we were doing.

389
00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:01,459
And we would have a certain sound in mind,

390
00:25:01,459 --> 00:25:03,294
and he'd want it to be different.

391
00:25:03,878 --> 00:25:06,798
He would actually come onstage
and adjust my amp.

392
00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:09,384
Of course I'd go back
and put it the way I wanted it.

393
00:25:09,384 --> 00:25:13,221
And he'd call me over, and he ripped me
a new one for not smiling onstage,

394
00:25:13,221 --> 00:25:15,181
or not having enough treble on my guitar.

395
00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:20,020
Eventually, I just got mad at him
because he was yelling at me,

396
00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,605
so I said, "I quit the band."

397
00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:26,192
And Murry goes, "Everybody hear that?
He quits the band."

398
00:25:27,694 --> 00:25:31,197
I loved Murry a lot,
but that wasn't really fair.

399
00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:35,744
I was some arrogant 15-year-old.
What the hell do you expect?

400
00:25:36,745 --> 00:25:40,832
And so, after four albums as a Beach Boy,
that was over.

401
00:25:42,167 --> 00:25:45,587
Brian was totally upset, 'cause he knew
what the consequences were gonna be.

402
00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:49,090
He would have to be on the road more
if I left.

403
00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:00,268
When I was in high school,

404
00:26:00,268 --> 00:26:03,355
{\an8}my friend says,
"I know these guys called The Beach Boys."

405
00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:05,899
{\an8}"Would you like to see their show?"

406
00:26:05,899 --> 00:26:12,489
<i>♪ Little surfer
Little one ♪</i>

407
00:26:12,489 --> 00:26:14,616
I grew up in West Hollywood,

408
00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:17,786
and there was this coffee house
called Pandora's Box.

409
00:26:18,661 --> 00:26:20,246
We were sitting in the first row,

410
00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:22,415
and I remember Brian looked at me
and he went,

411
00:26:22,415 --> 00:26:24,834
"Hey, can I have a sip
of your hot chocolate?"

412
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,671
I gave him a sip of it.
When he gave it back to me,

413
00:26:27,671 --> 00:26:29,923
it spilled on me.

414
00:26:29,923 --> 00:26:32,759
It was funny.

415
00:26:36,388 --> 00:26:39,057
You know, before long, I was dating Brian.

416
00:26:39,849 --> 00:26:43,061
<i>♪ I will make your dreams come true ♪</i>

417
00:26:43,061 --> 00:26:44,479
He had a great personality.

418
00:26:44,479 --> 00:26:46,064
I mean, he was so much fun.

419
00:26:46,898 --> 00:26:49,693
But he was very cerebral
when it came to music.

420
00:26:50,402 --> 00:26:51,444
And, at the time,

421
00:26:51,444 --> 00:26:55,365
I was singing with my cousin Ginger
and my sister Diane.

422
00:26:55,365 --> 00:26:58,326
So we started making records with Brian
and for Capitol.

423
00:26:58,326 --> 00:27:03,331
<i>♪ Girl, surfer girl
My little surfer girl ♪</i>

424
00:27:03,331 --> 00:27:05,417
Music was our whole life.

425
00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:06,668
It was everything.

426
00:27:06,668 --> 00:27:11,006
<i>♪ Girl, surfer girl
My little surfer girl ♪</i>

427
00:27:11,006 --> 00:27:13,967
Brian would tell me that he just wanted
to be home and make records,

428
00:27:13,967 --> 00:27:15,301
you know, and write and all that.

429
00:27:16,011 --> 00:27:18,179
And the guys had a hard time
understanding that,

430
00:27:18,179 --> 00:27:20,432
because, you know,
going out on the road was fun.

431
00:27:20,974 --> 00:27:23,226
But it wasn't fun for Brian.

432
00:27:25,812 --> 00:27:28,606
I mean, I've tried to work
around people, and I can do it.

433
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,026
It's a little hard, you know?

434
00:27:31,026 --> 00:27:33,445
But when I go alone, I can think.

435
00:27:33,445 --> 00:27:35,280
You know,
and I can get some stuff together.

436
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:45,957
<i>♪ There's a world where I can go ♪</i>

437
00:27:45,957 --> 00:27:51,713
<i>♪ Tell my secrets to ♪</i>

438
00:27:51,713 --> 00:27:57,802
<i>♪ In my room ♪</i>

439
00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:01,514
<i>♪ In my room ♪</i>

440
00:28:01,514 --> 00:28:03,516
I think that music
is very healing.

441
00:28:04,142 --> 00:28:05,810
It puts me into a quiet place

442
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:08,063
to create or to do
what I'm supposed to do.

443
00:28:09,481 --> 00:28:11,358
I've worked with Brian,

444
00:28:11,358 --> 00:28:15,111
and the way to talk with him
is through the language of music.

445
00:28:15,779 --> 00:28:17,280
You can get close to him that way.

446
00:28:18,990 --> 00:28:20,408
That's a secret language.

447
00:28:21,368 --> 00:28:25,038
And I think Mike understood
the complexity of Brian.

448
00:28:26,247 --> 00:28:29,334
<i>♪ In my room ♪</i>

449
00:28:29,334 --> 00:28:32,754
Whereas Brian
was innately gifted musically,

450
00:28:33,296 --> 00:28:35,632
I was more into the lyrics
and the concepts.

451
00:28:36,299 --> 00:28:38,385
And so it was a good partnership there.

452
00:28:39,511 --> 00:28:43,932
Some people maybe denigrate them
for those early songs being simple.

453
00:28:44,557 --> 00:28:45,975
But I think that's a virtue.

454
00:28:46,518 --> 00:28:50,313
Songs about having fun and love
and unrequited love.

455
00:28:50,313 --> 00:28:53,191
It was perfect music for a teenager, man.

456
00:28:53,191 --> 00:28:55,735
They could understand that.
They could relate to it.

457
00:28:55,735 --> 00:28:56,820
They could feel it.

458
00:28:57,362 --> 00:28:59,823
Simplicity is what got us going.

459
00:29:05,954 --> 00:29:09,207
With Brian's wonderful ability
to write melodies

460
00:29:09,207 --> 00:29:11,960
and Mike's very clever way
of writing lyrics,

461
00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:13,962
we found a perfect formula.

462
00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:17,215
But when it got to the point
of going onstage,

463
00:29:18,216 --> 00:29:19,634
Mike was lead singer.

464
00:29:19,634 --> 00:29:20,802
<i>♪ Giddy up ♪</i>

465
00:29:22,178 --> 00:29:24,014
He developed that persona quite early.

466
00:29:24,014 --> 00:29:27,100
<i>♪ Well, I'm a long, tall Texan ♪</i>

467
00:29:27,851 --> 00:29:30,186
<i>♪ I ride a big, white horse ♪</i>

468
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:34,190
<i>♪ He rides from Texas
on a big, white horse ♪</i>

469
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:37,277
<i>♪ Well, I'm a long, tall Texan ♪</i>

470
00:29:38,028 --> 00:29:40,363
<i>♪ I ride a big, white horse ♪</i>

471
00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:43,033
Ultimately,
I think Brian was melancholy.

472
00:29:43,033 --> 00:29:47,120
{\an8}So I complemented Brian's melancholy
with my upbeatness.

473
00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:50,832
<i>♪ Hurrah, hurrah
Is that your hat? ♪</i>

474
00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:52,959
<i>♪ He rides from Texas
with a ten-gallon hat ♪</i>

475
00:29:52,959 --> 00:29:54,169
<i>♪ Yeah ♪</i>

476
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:56,921
All the guys
loved that Mike was so funny.

477
00:29:56,921 --> 00:29:59,549
You know, I mean, they would really
give off of each other.

478
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:03,053
And Brian thought
that Mike was the greatest front man.

479
00:30:03,803 --> 00:30:08,266
I, personally, always preferred live music
to the studio.

480
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,019
There's no feedback in the studio.

481
00:30:11,019 --> 00:30:16,566
But in live music, you see the effect that
the music has on the people immediately.

482
00:30:17,233 --> 00:30:20,403
It's so positive. So much joy.

483
00:30:20,403 --> 00:30:23,656
<i>♪ My spurs jinglin' down at my feet ♪</i>

484
00:30:25,033 --> 00:30:29,454
<i>♪ I seen a man a-comin'
Comin' with a gun and ♪</i>

485
00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:33,583
<i>♪ I just can't be beat ♪</i>

486
00:30:46,721 --> 00:30:50,558
<i>♪ Now here we are together ♪</i>

487
00:30:50,558 --> 00:30:54,062
<i>♪ This would've been
worth waiting forever ♪</i>

488
00:30:54,771 --> 00:30:59,776
<i>♪ I always knew it'd feel this way ♪</i>

489
00:31:03,863 --> 00:31:07,200
The Beach Boys
came into the popular consciousness

490
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,454
with the mythology of surfing
and the California lifestyle.

491
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:15,917
{\an8}That fueled a lot
of young people's imaginations.

492
00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:21,464
<i>♪ Baby, please let me wonder ♪</i>

493
00:31:21,464 --> 00:31:24,217
Those of us who lived up
in Northern California

494
00:31:24,217 --> 00:31:29,222
tended to be somewhat opinionated
about Los Angeles.

495
00:31:29,222 --> 00:31:34,644
But what made the group transcend that
was they had this guy Brian Wilson.

496
00:31:35,812 --> 00:31:41,109
I was quite taken with him as a craftsman,
as a producer.

497
00:31:41,985 --> 00:31:44,821
And as much as I've been influenced
by Brian's music,

498
00:31:45,530 --> 00:31:51,119
Brian was equally influenced by
the amazing songs coming on the radio

499
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:52,287
at that time.

500
00:31:52,287 --> 00:31:55,040
<i>♪ For so long I thought about it ♪</i>

501
00:31:55,832 --> 00:31:59,044
<i>Phil Spector is 25 years old.</i>

502
00:31:59,044 --> 00:32:03,048
{\an8}<i>He owns record and publishing companies
valued in the millions.</i>

503
00:32:03,048 --> 00:32:04,883
<i>Dozens of hit records since</i>

504
00:32:04,883 --> 00:32:09,387
<i>indicate that Spector's beat
is closely tuned to teen desire.</i>

505
00:32:10,972 --> 00:32:13,475
Was Spector a big inspiration to you?

506
00:32:13,475 --> 00:32:15,560
Are you kidding? Are you kidding?

507
00:32:16,186 --> 00:32:19,189
He was like a-- He was it.

508
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:24,819
I was in my car with my girlfriend.
All of a sudden, this radio station goes,

509
00:32:24,819 --> 00:32:27,906
"Here we go with
'Be My Baby' by the Ronettes."

510
00:32:27,906 --> 00:32:34,037
{\an8}<i>♪ The night we met
I knew I needed you so ♪</i>

511
00:32:34,037 --> 00:32:40,377
After he heard "Be My Baby,"
he played that record every single day.

512
00:32:40,377 --> 00:32:42,837
Drove me absolutely nuts.

513
00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:46,216
<i>♪ So won't you say you love me? ♪</i>

514
00:32:46,216 --> 00:32:48,760
Phil Spector's music
was intangible.

515
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,097
He knew how to mix,
who knows, probably 25 instruments?

516
00:32:52,722 --> 00:32:56,935
He mixes 'em all into one sound, and
that was what he called the Wall of Sound.

517
00:32:56,935 --> 00:32:59,396
<i>♪ Be my, be my baby ♪</i>

518
00:32:59,396 --> 00:33:02,315
- <i>♪ Be my little baby ♪</i>
- <i>♪ My one and only baby ♪</i>

519
00:33:02,315 --> 00:33:03,692
It got to my soul.

520
00:33:03,692 --> 00:33:05,944
<i>♪ Say you'll be my darling ♪</i>

521
00:33:05,944 --> 00:33:09,781
- <i>♪ Be my, be my baby ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Be my baby now ♪</i>

522
00:33:09,781 --> 00:33:12,367
<i>♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh ♪</i>

523
00:33:12,367 --> 00:33:14,953
When Brian heard "Be My Baby,"

524
00:33:14,953 --> 00:33:17,914
{\an8}he says, "I gotta have that band.
Those are the guys."

525
00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:20,750
I played on "Be My Baby"

526
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:23,920
{\an8}with a group of session musicians
called the Wrecking Crew.

527
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,007
{\an8}We were the band
that was making those hit records.

528
00:33:27,007 --> 00:33:31,344
Before that, most of the studio musicians
were all in the suits,

529
00:33:31,344 --> 00:33:32,303
and nobody smoked.

530
00:33:33,096 --> 00:33:36,933
Here we came
and everybody was making jokes, relaxed.

531
00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:39,561
The story goes like, "These guys
are gonna wreck the business."

532
00:33:40,687 --> 00:33:45,650
Phil Spector had three keyboard
players all playing the same part.

533
00:33:45,650 --> 00:33:49,362
Five guitar players. Three bass players.

534
00:33:49,362 --> 00:33:51,906
Everyone's bleeding
into all the microphones.

535
00:33:51,906 --> 00:33:54,617
And he built this monolith of music.

536
00:33:54,617 --> 00:33:57,370
<i>♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪</i>

537
00:33:58,371 --> 00:34:00,790
I was unable
to really think as a producer

538
00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:04,044
up until the time I really got familiar
with Phil Spector's work.

539
00:34:04,044 --> 00:34:06,796
Then I started to see the point
of the whole game.

540
00:34:06,796 --> 00:34:08,673
It's the overall sound.

541
00:34:08,673 --> 00:34:10,675
It's what they're going to hear
and experience

542
00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:12,427
in the two and a half minutes that counts.

543
00:34:12,427 --> 00:34:15,805
- <i>♪ Be my, be my baby ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Be my little baby ♪</i>

544
00:34:15,805 --> 00:34:18,391
Brian really wanted
to produce his own records,

545
00:34:18,391 --> 00:34:20,101
{\an8}and that was a big step at that time.

546
00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:22,479
{\an8}Capitol Records really resisted it.

547
00:34:22,479 --> 00:34:26,149
They weren't certain that
he'd be able to really deliver.

548
00:34:30,653 --> 00:34:34,908
When you're 21, especially in that era,
you needed to have an adult in the room.

549
00:34:34,908 --> 00:34:36,201
There was a method to things.

550
00:34:38,244 --> 00:34:40,997
Capitol wanted
to have their person in there,

551
00:34:40,997 --> 00:34:44,668
{\an8}and so Nick Venet
was assigned as our producer.

552
00:34:44,668 --> 00:34:47,045
{\an8}But that was very unsatisfactory.

553
00:34:47,545 --> 00:34:48,546
Especially to Brian.

554
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:51,549
He didn't really do much except just,

555
00:34:51,549 --> 00:34:53,718
"Okay, fellas. Take one and take"--
You know?

556
00:34:53,718 --> 00:34:56,262
{\an8}<i>The tower's three recording studios</i>

557
00:34:56,262 --> 00:34:58,098
{\an8}<i>are the most modern in the world.</i>

558
00:34:58,098 --> 00:34:59,891
They want us to use
their recording studio,

559
00:34:59,891 --> 00:35:02,394
and we didn't care too much for the sound
at the tower.

560
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,191
I preferred a studio called
Western Recorders on Sunset Boulevard.

561
00:35:08,191 --> 00:35:12,237
So my dad told Capitol that we're leaving.

562
00:35:12,237 --> 00:35:16,658
<i>I remember Murry argued
with Capitol for five straight months.</i>

563
00:35:16,658 --> 00:35:21,496
<i>I could hear his voice just screaming,
but Murry got his way.</i>

564
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:24,332
Had he been unrelated
to the group,

565
00:35:24,332 --> 00:35:27,168
{\an8}I could've probably seen
my way through the arguments.

566
00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,337
{\an8}But because he was blood related,

567
00:35:29,337 --> 00:35:32,090
whenever I told him
he was wrong or foolish,

568
00:35:32,090 --> 00:35:36,011
the entire band took it
as a slander against the family.

569
00:35:38,638 --> 00:35:41,391
And from then on,
we produced our own records.

570
00:35:51,735 --> 00:35:53,570
Growing up in Kansas City, Kansas,

571
00:35:53,570 --> 00:35:57,991
{\an8}my grandmother would go to thrift stores
and get all these dusty vinyls.

572
00:36:00,035 --> 00:36:06,291
And I just remember seeing The Beach Boys,
and I'm like, "What the hell is that?"

573
00:36:06,291 --> 00:36:09,544
<i>♪ Well, it's been building up
inside of me ♪</i>

574
00:36:09,544 --> 00:36:14,215
<i>♪ For, oh, I don't know how long ♪</i>

575
00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:15,592
When I got into songwriting,

576
00:36:15,592 --> 00:36:18,636
that's when I really started
to listen to The Beach Boys,

577
00:36:19,637 --> 00:36:21,598
'cause I was so obsessed
with the harmonies.

578
00:36:21,598 --> 00:36:24,684
- <i>♪ Ooh ♪</i>
- <i>♪ But she looks in my eyes ♪</i>

579
00:36:24,684 --> 00:36:27,354
They really show what it's like

580
00:36:27,354 --> 00:36:29,939
when everybody understands the part
they have to play.

581
00:36:29,939 --> 00:36:35,779
<i>♪ Don't worry, baby ♪</i>

582
00:36:35,779 --> 00:36:40,116
- <i>♪ Everything will turn out all right ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Don't worry, baby ♪</i>

583
00:36:40,116 --> 00:36:45,205
<i>♪ Don't worry, baby ♪</i>

584
00:36:48,124 --> 00:36:55,048
<i>♪ I guess I should've kept my mouth shut
When I started to brag about my car ♪</i>

585
00:36:56,257 --> 00:37:00,762
There's something about those individuals
and the way they blended together.

586
00:37:00,762 --> 00:37:02,847
They're all part of it.

587
00:37:02,847 --> 00:37:05,016
You take any one of those guys out,

588
00:37:05,016 --> 00:37:07,894
and you don't have
that sound or that feel.

589
00:37:07,894 --> 00:37:11,898
<i>♪ And makes me wanna drive when she says ♪</i>

590
00:37:11,898 --> 00:37:14,150
<i>♪ Don't worry, baby ♪</i>

591
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:17,654
- <i>♪ Don't worry, baby ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Don't worry, baby ♪</i>

592
00:37:17,654 --> 00:37:19,489
<i>♪ Everything will turn out all right ♪</i>

593
00:37:19,489 --> 00:37:21,783
I remember the recording session
for "Don't Worry Baby."

594
00:37:21,783 --> 00:37:23,702
I go, "Holy shit. This is beautiful."

595
00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:25,787
Definitely a turning point for us.

596
00:37:26,871 --> 00:37:27,956
And for Brian.

597
00:37:30,125 --> 00:37:31,543
He knew exactly what he wanted.

598
00:37:32,127 --> 00:37:34,379
He was really learning to be a producer.

599
00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:36,673
But his dad began to be an obstacle.

600
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:41,636
<i>Sit up straight, Carl,</i>
and you can play.

601
00:37:41,636 --> 00:37:43,179
- <i>You're laying down.</i>
<i>That thing's on.</i>

602
00:37:43,179 --> 00:37:45,849
It's tough to manage your sons,
so I don't know how you can...

603
00:37:46,433 --> 00:37:49,352
...travel with them
and be their road manager.

604
00:37:49,352 --> 00:37:52,939
And their manager manager.
It just-- It just was very difficult.

605
00:37:54,774 --> 00:37:56,609
He would come to a concert,

606
00:37:56,609 --> 00:38:01,322
then told Brian to not use the sound
on the bass that he wanted to use.

607
00:38:01,322 --> 00:38:03,491
He'd give us these signals
from the back of the hall.

608
00:38:03,491 --> 00:38:04,743
He'd have his flashlight too.

609
00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:08,830
But the flashlight under his face,
and he looked like Boris Karloff.

610
00:38:10,749 --> 00:38:15,086
We're young guys in a rock band
who wanna have a certain sound onstage.

611
00:38:15,086 --> 00:38:17,839
And here's the dad over there.

612
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:21,092
<i>♪ The sunset at night ♪</i>

613
00:38:21,092 --> 00:38:24,429
He would literally go like this,
it means T for treble.

614
00:38:24,429 --> 00:38:25,513
Treble up.

615
00:38:25,513 --> 00:38:29,768
Treble up, and also we had to humble up.
That was another one of his big sayings.

616
00:38:29,768 --> 00:38:32,645
<i>What's the matter?
You made too much money, buddy?</i>

617
00:38:33,146 --> 00:38:35,607
{\an8}- <i>Let's sing from your hearts. Let's go.</i>
<i>All right.</i>

618
00:38:35,607 --> 00:38:38,318
If they didn't do something right,
he would fine them.

619
00:38:38,318 --> 00:38:40,362
Or if someone swore, he would fine them.

620
00:38:40,362 --> 00:38:41,488
It was so stupid.

621
00:38:42,947 --> 00:38:45,116
Brian did always
want his father's approval.

622
00:38:45,617 --> 00:38:49,204
But it got to the point where he really
didn't want Murry to tell him what to do,

623
00:38:49,204 --> 00:38:53,625
because, you know, Murry's making music
from the '30s and '40s.

624
00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:57,545
Brian said, "Oh, he's so corny
all the time. I can't. He's corny."

625
00:38:58,338 --> 00:39:00,298
{\an8}<i>The boys just really weren't happy.</i>

626
00:39:01,049 --> 00:39:04,052
{\an8}<i>And Murry wasn't happy either.
He was miserable most of the time.</i>

627
00:39:07,138 --> 00:39:08,973
We went to Australia for a tour.

628
00:39:10,642 --> 00:39:12,394
That might have been the turning point.

629
00:39:13,645 --> 00:39:16,731
Just a lot of arguing.
A lot of arguments that we had with him.

630
00:39:16,731 --> 00:39:19,109
We finally said,
"Look, we can't deal with you anymore.

631
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:21,861
We gotta let you go
and get a new-- get a new manager."

632
00:39:22,862 --> 00:39:27,575
Brian and I made that decision,
and Murry took over the publishing.

633
00:39:29,077 --> 00:39:30,745
But he was no longer our manager.

634
00:39:32,497 --> 00:39:34,582
Murry protected them from day one.

635
00:39:34,582 --> 00:39:38,211
You know, if Murry wasn't there
and wasn't protecting them,

636
00:39:38,211 --> 00:39:40,839
I don't think they would be anywhere
where they are right now.

637
00:39:40,839 --> 00:39:42,007
In fact, I know they wouldn't.

638
00:39:43,383 --> 00:39:46,302
And so he was real, real hurt.

639
00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:49,180
That was traumatic for him.
- It was terrible.

640
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:50,932
It hurt his feelings very much.

641
00:39:52,767 --> 00:39:55,186
The firing was very hard on Audree,

642
00:39:55,186 --> 00:39:58,732
because Murry would, you know,
come down on her all the time.

643
00:39:58,732 --> 00:40:01,526
You know,
"Because you were too soft with them."

644
00:40:02,777 --> 00:40:04,779
<i>I just wanted them
always to be better.</i>

645
00:40:05,321 --> 00:40:07,073
{\an8}<i>Always to be stronger.</i>

646
00:40:07,073 --> 00:40:08,742
{\an8}<i>Always be honest.</i>

647
00:40:09,701 --> 00:40:11,119
<i>God, they heard that enough.</i>

648
00:40:12,954 --> 00:40:14,414
I was never scared of my brothers.

649
00:40:14,414 --> 00:40:16,249
{\an8}I was scared of my dad though.
I'll tell you that.

650
00:40:16,875 --> 00:40:19,878
{\an8}He'd clobber me right in the face
for not getting the dishes done.

651
00:40:22,589 --> 00:40:25,425
{\an8}- At times, he was extremely--
- Depending on what he was hitting you with

652
00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:26,760
at the time, you know?

653
00:40:27,385 --> 00:40:31,139
He used a little thin board on Carl,
and he used a big one on me.

654
00:40:32,182 --> 00:40:33,767
Carl was the baby.

655
00:40:33,767 --> 00:40:36,978
And Brian.
"Well, Brian is different, Dennis."

656
00:40:36,978 --> 00:40:39,064
You know, and he said,
"You can take it." Boom!

657
00:40:40,315 --> 00:40:41,524
He was very abusive,

658
00:40:41,524 --> 00:40:46,237
{\an8}and I think that dealt some
severe self-worth issues to his sons.

659
00:40:46,946 --> 00:40:50,325
Showed up in Brian in one way,
and showed up in Carl another way.

660
00:40:50,325 --> 00:40:53,244
He developed a real guarded personality.

661
00:40:53,953 --> 00:40:56,122
And then Dennis was a rebel.

662
00:40:58,083 --> 00:41:00,543
When he grew up
into The Beach Boys,

663
00:41:00,543 --> 00:41:03,463
man, let me tell you,
he was really a spark plug.

664
00:41:03,963 --> 00:41:05,173
A real spark plug.

665
00:41:10,053 --> 00:41:12,472
In a sense,
the spotlight was on Dennis.

666
00:41:12,472 --> 00:41:14,391
He was the sex symbol of the group.

667
00:41:14,391 --> 00:41:16,685
So a lot of us had to take it
right where it hurt.

668
00:41:16,685 --> 00:41:19,646
It's like, "Mob the stage. Look out!
Get out of the way. We want Dennis.

669
00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:22,691
- Will you please move that bass, Brian?"

670
00:41:22,691 --> 00:41:26,111
<i>♪ Do you wanna dance
Under the moonlight? ♪</i>

671
00:41:26,111 --> 00:41:28,780
<i>♪ Hold me, baby, all through the night ♪</i>

672
00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:34,786
<i>♪ Oh, baby, do you wanna dance? ♪</i>

673
00:41:35,704 --> 00:41:38,540
The way Dennis played
the drums, it was Dennis's drums.

674
00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:40,917
I think that made a lot
of the records too.

675
00:41:41,710 --> 00:41:44,713
He was energetic, boy.
A lot of power.

676
00:41:44,713 --> 00:41:45,714
Whoo!

677
00:41:47,132 --> 00:41:49,592
He was a real beach boy.
He really surfed.

678
00:41:49,592 --> 00:41:51,720
He really did what we were singing about.

679
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:55,223
But that issue was that he'd rather be
in the water than in the studio.

680
00:41:55,223 --> 00:41:58,476
<i>♪ Do you wanna dance
Under the moonlight? ♪</i>

681
00:41:58,476 --> 00:42:01,312
<i>♪ Kiss me, baby, all through the night ♪</i>

682
00:42:01,312 --> 00:42:07,819
<i>♪ Oh, baby, do you wanna dance? ♪</i>

683
00:42:12,574 --> 00:42:15,869
Dennis had all the cars and all the girls.
You know, the whole thing.

684
00:42:21,666 --> 00:42:23,376
He enjoyed being a beach boy.

685
00:42:27,088 --> 00:42:30,258
<i>We're The Beach Boys,
and we'd like to thank all the guys at...</i>

686
00:42:30,967 --> 00:42:32,969
We were in New Zealand for a tour.

687
00:42:32,969 --> 00:42:35,388
We were doing some spots
for the station there,

688
00:42:35,388 --> 00:42:38,600
and the deejay said,
"Hey, there's a new band from England

689
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,393
taking over America."

690
00:42:40,393 --> 00:42:42,520
We go, "Well, it's okay."

691
00:42:48,068 --> 00:42:51,488
<i>3,000 screaming teenagers
are at New York's Kennedy airport</i>

692
00:42:51,488 --> 00:42:53,156
<i>to meet The Beatles.</i>

693
00:42:53,156 --> 00:42:54,949
<i>This rock-and-roll group has taken over</i>

694
00:42:54,949 --> 00:42:58,703
<i>as the kingpins of musical appreciation
among the younger element.</i>

695
00:43:00,789 --> 00:43:02,874
I first heard 'em on <i>The Ed Sullivan Show</i>.

696
00:43:03,792 --> 00:43:04,959
And I was flippin' out.

697
00:43:06,503 --> 00:43:08,004
Pretty jealous. I remember that.

698
00:43:08,797 --> 00:43:11,549
{\an8}Ladies and gentlemen, The Beatles.
Bring 'em on!

699
00:43:14,511 --> 00:43:16,721
Here we are
in this remote part of the world,

700
00:43:16,721 --> 00:43:18,473
and they're on <i>The Ed Sullivan Show</i>.

701
00:43:19,224 --> 00:43:20,975
We were completely caught off guard.

702
00:43:22,644 --> 00:43:28,066
It was very humbling, because we had been
on top there for that year or so before.

703
00:43:28,775 --> 00:43:30,527
Think I was just as amazed as anyone.

704
00:43:32,028 --> 00:43:34,447
Couldn't understand
how something like that could happen.

705
00:43:35,365 --> 00:43:36,449
The Beatles.

706
00:43:40,954 --> 00:43:42,372
The music they made--

707
00:43:42,372 --> 00:43:45,625
"I Wanna Hold Your Hand," for example,
wasn't really that great a record.

708
00:43:46,251 --> 00:43:48,503
But they-- But they got screamed at.

709
00:43:50,338 --> 00:43:54,259
They were selling an image like
we were, but we had different approaches.

710
00:43:55,176 --> 00:43:58,763
They were a little crude,
because we were so, you know, refined.

711
00:43:58,763 --> 00:44:02,017
Everything with us was pitch-perfect.
You know?

712
00:44:02,892 --> 00:44:05,311
We were singers. They were players.
That's what it felt like.

713
00:44:06,396 --> 00:44:08,398
It was just
a different level of energy.

714
00:44:10,525 --> 00:44:11,776
It got us off our asses.

715
00:44:12,986 --> 00:44:15,155
It got us right off our asses
and in the studio.

716
00:44:15,822 --> 00:44:16,823
We started cuttin',

717
00:44:16,823 --> 00:44:18,908
and said,
"Look, don't worry about The Beatles.

718
00:44:18,908 --> 00:44:20,785
We'll cut our own stuff.
Don't worry about it."

719
00:44:21,327 --> 00:44:23,663
<i>Let's hear it for The Beach Boys!</i>

720
00:44:28,752 --> 00:44:30,503
<i>♪ Well, she got her daddy's car ♪</i>

721
00:44:30,503 --> 00:44:33,214
<i>♪ And she cruised through
the hamburger stand, now ♪</i>

722
00:44:34,924 --> 00:44:39,012
<i>♪ Seems she forgot all about the library
like she told her old man, now ♪</i>

723
00:44:39,971 --> 00:44:42,223
The music business
is so competitive.

724
00:44:42,223 --> 00:44:44,726
Always has been. Always will be.

725
00:44:45,894 --> 00:44:48,730
And you always hope
the song is gonna be number one,

726
00:44:48,730 --> 00:44:50,440
but there's too much competition.

727
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,275
<i>♪ Fun, fun, fun, 'til her daddy takes... ♪</i>

728
00:44:53,777 --> 00:44:59,324
<i>♪ She loves you
Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪</i>

729
00:44:59,324 --> 00:45:02,285
<i>The four lads from Liverpool
are off again</i>

730
00:45:02,285 --> 00:45:04,704
<i>against the background
of thousands of screaming fans.</i>

731
00:45:05,789 --> 00:45:08,708
<i>♪ You think you've lost your love ♪</i>

732
00:45:08,708 --> 00:45:11,878
<i>♪ Well, I saw her yesterday ♪</i>

733
00:45:12,504 --> 00:45:16,091
We'd put a song out.
Brian would hear it, then he'd do one.

734
00:45:16,091 --> 00:45:18,885
And we ended up--
It was kind of like a rivalry.

735
00:45:18,885 --> 00:45:21,429
You know, you kind of try
and top each other all the time.

736
00:45:22,389 --> 00:45:25,225
{\an8}- Here are The Beach Boys!

737
00:45:25,225 --> 00:45:28,978
{\an8}<i>♪ Round, round, get around
I get around, yeah ♪</i>

738
00:45:28,978 --> 00:45:31,481
- <i>♪ Round, round, round, I get around ♪</i>

739
00:45:31,481 --> 00:45:34,234
- <i>♪ I get around ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Round, round, round, I get around ♪</i>

740
00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:36,277
- <i>♪ From town to town ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Get around, round, round ♪</i>

741
00:45:36,277 --> 00:45:37,362
<i>♪ I get around ♪</i>

742
00:45:37,362 --> 00:45:40,865
<i>♪ I'm a real cool head
I'm making real good bread ♪</i>

743
00:45:40,865 --> 00:45:44,285
On the West Coast
of America, a new sound was born.

744
00:45:44,285 --> 00:45:47,330
The surfing sound.
A tremendous rage over there.

745
00:45:47,330 --> 00:45:49,374
And it's been
quite a big success here too.

746
00:45:49,374 --> 00:45:50,959
{\an8}Here they are with their big hit number,

747
00:45:50,959 --> 00:45:53,837
{\an8}"I Get Around," The Beach Boys!

748
00:45:53,837 --> 00:45:56,631
<i>♪ My buddies and me
are getting real well-known ♪</i>

749
00:45:56,631 --> 00:45:59,926
<i>♪ Yeah, the bad guys know us
and they leave us alone ♪</i>

750
00:46:00,427 --> 00:46:02,470
- Mike Love.
- Brian Wilson.

751
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:04,556
- Paul, Ringo.

752
00:46:05,807 --> 00:46:08,893
- <i>♪ I'm a real cool head ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Get around, round, round ♪</i>

753
00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:10,228
{\an8}<i>♪ I'm making real good bread ♪</i>

754
00:46:10,228 --> 00:46:13,898
{\an8}There's a lot of groups competing with us,
and I feel that competition.

755
00:46:29,247 --> 00:46:31,958
<i>♪ We always take my car
'Cause it's never been beat ♪</i>

756
00:46:31,958 --> 00:46:34,878
<i>♪ And we've never missed yet
With the girls we meet ♪</i>

757
00:46:37,881 --> 00:46:40,884
{\an8}<i>♪ None of the guys go steady
'Cause it wouldn't be right ♪</i>

758
00:46:40,884 --> 00:46:44,220
<i>♪ To leave their best girl home
Now on Saturday night ♪</i>

759
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:47,140
- <i>♪ I get around ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Get around, round, I get around ♪</i>

760
00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:49,476
- <i>♪ From town to town ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Get around, round, I get around ♪</i>

761
00:46:49,476 --> 00:46:52,270
- <i>♪ I'm a real cool head ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Get around, round, I get around ♪</i>

762
00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:56,316
- <i>♪ I'm making real good bread ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Get around, round, I get around ♪</i>

763
00:46:57,233 --> 00:46:58,234
<i>♪ Round ♪</i>

764
00:47:05,617 --> 00:47:07,118
Sure, most everybody knows,

765
00:47:07,118 --> 00:47:10,330
{\an8}but for anybody who might not,
may we introduce you by name?

766
00:47:10,330 --> 00:47:12,040
{\an8}- Al Jardine.
- Thank you, Al.

767
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,291
{\an8}- Dennis Wilson.
- Thank you.

768
00:47:13,291 --> 00:47:14,668
Brian Wilson.

769
00:47:14,668 --> 00:47:16,586
- Carl Wilson.
- Mike Love.

770
00:47:16,586 --> 00:47:18,838
- Now, I think, uh-- Whoop. What happened?

771
00:47:18,838 --> 00:47:19,839
There you are.

772
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:22,550
You know it's an amazing thing
because you have hit after hit.

773
00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:25,637
Who determines, Brian,
what will be done next?

774
00:47:26,429 --> 00:47:28,598
- Well, I guess I do. I don't know.

775
00:47:28,598 --> 00:47:31,768
I write the songs and produce them,
so I have a lot to say about it.

776
00:47:31,768 --> 00:47:33,019
Do you have a...

777
00:47:33,019 --> 00:47:36,690
There was so much
on him all the time as he got older.

778
00:47:36,690 --> 00:47:38,525
Because Brian could write.

779
00:47:38,525 --> 00:47:40,568
He could arrange.

780
00:47:40,568 --> 00:47:41,903
He could sing.

781
00:47:41,903 --> 00:47:44,322
He could play instruments.

782
00:47:44,322 --> 00:47:45,615
He could do everything.

783
00:47:46,533 --> 00:47:49,119
But the other parts of life
were hard for him.

784
00:47:54,624 --> 00:47:57,794
Being on the road,
it's ever-changing.

785
00:47:59,713 --> 00:48:01,339
He just wasn't cut out for that.

786
00:48:02,632 --> 00:48:03,925
He was more of a homebody.

787
00:48:06,428 --> 00:48:11,182
The toll that it takes on your body,
your family, your mental health,

788
00:48:11,182 --> 00:48:12,767
your physical health,

789
00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:14,561
it's not natural.

790
00:48:15,145 --> 00:48:18,314
And if you're a homebody whatsoever,
it will destroy you.

791
00:48:19,274 --> 00:48:21,443
I remember him crying one morning.

792
00:48:21,443 --> 00:48:24,029
And he said, "I can't take it anymore."

793
00:48:25,447 --> 00:48:28,950
December of '64,
we were taking a flight to Houston,

794
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,495
and he had
a nervous breakdown on the flight.

795
00:48:33,788 --> 00:48:35,707
We were sitting next to each other.

796
00:48:37,751 --> 00:48:39,502
I was terrified for my brother.

797
00:48:39,502 --> 00:48:43,840
To see my brother in a position
where... [sighs] ...he was frightened.

798
00:48:45,008 --> 00:48:47,677
By the time we landed,
he wanted to go home.

799
00:48:50,555 --> 00:48:53,975
We were already
married, but it's funny he didn't call me.

800
00:48:53,975 --> 00:48:55,143
He called his mom.

801
00:48:55,769 --> 00:48:57,520
You know, and he went to their house.

802
00:48:58,646 --> 00:49:00,482
By the next day, he was fine again.

803
00:49:01,107 --> 00:49:03,360
He just went, you know,
"I just can't do it anymore, Mar.

804
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,444
I just can't do it."

805
00:49:05,195 --> 00:49:07,447
When we got home
from the 1964 tour, I quit.

806
00:49:07,447 --> 00:49:10,075
I told them I was gonna stay home
and write music for them,

807
00:49:10,075 --> 00:49:12,160
and they can go out and tour.
And they didn't agree.

808
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,246
I remember Michael was very upset.
He had tears in his eyes.

809
00:49:15,747 --> 00:49:20,794
It was not fun to deal with,
but, as a cousin or friend,

810
00:49:20,794 --> 00:49:24,714
you don't want him to have to do something
if he doesn't want to,

811
00:49:24,714 --> 00:49:27,884
or if he's not capable of doing it
without harming himself.

812
00:49:28,718 --> 00:49:32,013
So we agreed he was gonna depart
from the touring group,

813
00:49:32,514 --> 00:49:35,266
and focus more on--
on the recording part of it.

814
00:49:35,266 --> 00:49:36,643
<i>Take six.</i>

815
00:49:36,643 --> 00:49:39,187
The idea was that Brian
would have the tracks

816
00:49:39,187 --> 00:49:41,272
- prepared for us all ready to sing.

817
00:49:41,272 --> 00:49:43,566
So that we could just come home
and do the vocals.

818
00:49:44,442 --> 00:49:47,028
We were pretty damn busy.
So he hired the Wrecking Crew.

819
00:49:48,113 --> 00:49:50,782
That's super intimidating as a producer.

820
00:49:50,782 --> 00:49:53,243
Especially if you're dealing
with the Wrecking Crew.

821
00:49:53,243 --> 00:49:57,872
It's like everyone in this room
is a better musician than me.

822
00:49:58,915 --> 00:50:02,961
But we were all maybe 12,
15 years older than Brian.

823
00:50:02,961 --> 00:50:06,881
{\an8}And we thought, uh, you know,
it's a great account. Capitol Records.

824
00:50:07,632 --> 00:50:10,385
Brian, though,
had something special from the start,

825
00:50:10,385 --> 00:50:13,471
{\an8}'cause we didn't have to make up
as much stuff

826
00:50:13,471 --> 00:50:15,140
{\an8}for him as we did the other groups.

827
00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:16,725
{\an8}And-- And he brought in parts.

828
00:50:16,725 --> 00:50:19,227
I mean,
they weren't written out very well,

829
00:50:19,227 --> 00:50:21,646
which made me believe that
he was not schooled or anything,

830
00:50:21,646 --> 00:50:23,440
but the other groups didn't do that.

831
00:50:24,566 --> 00:50:27,569
Brian, for some reason,
knew how to manage us.

832
00:50:28,153 --> 00:50:30,030
{\an8}How to get the message across.

833
00:50:30,030 --> 00:50:31,406
He just took over.

834
00:50:31,406 --> 00:50:32,741
That's all. He was the boss.

835
00:50:33,867 --> 00:50:37,412
I couldn't believe
how much greater making music was

836
00:50:37,412 --> 00:50:38,913
{\an8}when I did have the time.

837
00:50:38,913 --> 00:50:43,418
I didn't feel like I was being pressed
to make something in an unnatural way.

838
00:50:45,962 --> 00:50:48,465
But we still had to find
a replacement Beach Boy.

839
00:50:49,090 --> 00:50:51,509
And Glen Campbell was
in our Wrecking Crew band.

840
00:50:52,177 --> 00:50:54,596
Why don't we call Glen
and ask him to come out?

841
00:50:54,596 --> 00:50:58,350
{\an8}I said, "What you want me to do?"
He said, "Play bass. Sing the high part."

842
00:51:00,310 --> 00:51:03,438
{\an8}I didn't know all the words,
but it seemed to work out fine.

843
00:51:04,022 --> 00:51:06,232
He was a studio-trained musician.

844
00:51:06,232 --> 00:51:08,234
So he had no idea what fame was all about.

845
00:51:08,818 --> 00:51:10,737
As he steps outside
of the dressing room door,

846
00:51:10,737 --> 00:51:14,407
all of a sudden this gaggle of girls
scared the living crap out of him.

847
00:51:15,658 --> 00:51:18,036
I was just moseying back to the car,

848
00:51:18,036 --> 00:51:20,663
and, boy howdy, here come
a bunch of screaming teenagers.

849
00:51:20,663 --> 00:51:23,750
And they tore my shirt off
and got a few locks of hair.

850
00:51:24,626 --> 00:51:25,960
And it was really weird.

851
00:51:26,753 --> 00:51:29,756
From that day on, I was the first one
in the car. I can tell you that.

852
00:51:32,926 --> 00:51:34,928
We were happy
Brian had the Wrecking Crew.

853
00:51:34,928 --> 00:51:37,931
'Cause then if we'd come home
from a 30-day tour,

854
00:51:37,931 --> 00:51:39,599
I could at least get a little rest.

855
00:51:40,225 --> 00:51:41,851
We were exhausted.

856
00:51:41,851 --> 00:51:44,354
<i>I'm ready now. I'm sorry, Brian.</i>

857
00:51:44,354 --> 00:51:45,438
<i>Is that a good tone?</i>

858
00:51:46,606 --> 00:51:48,942
Carl used to come
and play with us quite often.

859
00:51:48,942 --> 00:51:51,027
<i>One, two, three.</i>
- But Carl was the only one.

860
00:51:51,027 --> 00:51:53,405
<i>♪ Hi, little girl
It's me ♪</i>

861
00:51:53,405 --> 00:51:56,324
<i>♪ Don't you know who I am? ♪</i>

862
00:51:58,910 --> 00:52:00,078
<i>♪ I met you last summer ♪</i>

863
00:52:00,078 --> 00:52:01,496
I was very in awe of them.

864
00:52:02,247 --> 00:52:03,748
{\an8}And it was a great thrill,

865
00:52:03,748 --> 00:52:07,252
because we rehearsed a lot more
in the early days.

866
00:52:07,252 --> 00:52:12,090
But by then, it became more of
an experimental type of recording,

867
00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:13,174
trial and error.

868
00:52:14,134 --> 00:52:16,803
Things would evolve in a
real organic sort of way.

869
00:52:17,595 --> 00:52:19,597
I just really loved being a part of that.

870
00:52:20,432 --> 00:52:22,976
Carl was very musically inclined.

871
00:52:23,601 --> 00:52:25,603
Of course, he was lead guitarist,

872
00:52:26,855 --> 00:52:29,274
in addition to having
the voice of an angel.

873
00:52:29,274 --> 00:52:31,651
<i>♪ Said I'm the guy ♪</i>

874
00:52:31,651 --> 00:52:36,823
<i>♪ Who left you with tears in his eyes ♪</i>

875
00:52:36,823 --> 00:52:38,408
<i>♪ You didn't answer my... ♪</i>

876
00:52:38,408 --> 00:52:42,412
Carl was the sweet one.
And, you know, shy.

877
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:44,748
But he had a heart of gold.

878
00:52:45,790 --> 00:52:48,001
And he became the glue in The Beach Boys.

879
00:52:49,169 --> 00:52:52,839
My role in the band
has always been a support role.

880
00:52:52,839 --> 00:52:54,549
{\an8}And it's changed
through the years because,

881
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:56,593
with our evolution
and Brian leaving the road,

882
00:52:56,593 --> 00:52:58,928
I kinda took over
as the leader of the band.

883
00:52:59,846 --> 00:53:03,933
The Beach Boys
effectively became two groups.

884
00:53:03,933 --> 00:53:06,478
{\an8}The recording group and the touring group.

885
00:53:09,439 --> 00:53:10,940
Brian was happy as a lark.

886
00:53:10,940 --> 00:53:13,526
He didn't have to be
under all that pressure anymore.

887
00:53:13,526 --> 00:53:17,405
The next call I got from him,
he couldn't wait for us to get home

888
00:53:17,405 --> 00:53:19,532
so he could go into the studio
and do the next album.

889
00:53:19,532 --> 00:53:23,995
<i>♪ Well, since she put me down
I've been out doin' in my head ♪</i>

890
00:53:23,995 --> 00:53:25,747
<i>What's the matter?</i>
- <i>We doing a sing-along?</i>

891
00:53:25,747 --> 00:53:26,831
<i>I don't know.</i>

892
00:53:27,749 --> 00:53:30,752
We went into the studio
to record "Help Me, Rhonda" vocals.

893
00:53:31,878 --> 00:53:34,005
Well, I was having trouble with--
with this one part.

894
00:53:34,005 --> 00:53:36,883
- <i>♪ Well, Rhonda, you look so fine ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Ooh ♪</i>

895
00:53:36,883 --> 00:53:38,593
- <i>♪ Look so fine ♪</i>
<i>♪ And I know I-- ♪</i>

896
00:53:38,593 --> 00:53:40,637
<i>Hey, Al.
You missed the synco pretty bad.</i>

897
00:53:40,637 --> 00:53:42,347
<i>Let's go.</i>
<i>Do it one more time.</i>

898
00:53:42,347 --> 00:53:43,723
<i>You've got it. Okay.</i>

899
00:53:43,723 --> 00:53:45,684
<i>Now loosen up and be happy.</i>

900
00:53:45,684 --> 00:53:49,312
Murry came in
and wanted to produce the band...

901
00:53:49,312 --> 00:53:50,397
<i>♪ Since you put me down ♪</i>

902
00:53:50,397 --> 00:53:51,898
...and, uh, it got real uncomfortable.

903
00:53:51,898 --> 00:53:53,692
<i>♪ Since you put me down, baby ♪</i>

904
00:53:56,152 --> 00:53:57,529
- <i>Got it?</i>
<i>I got it, Murry.</i>

905
00:53:57,529 --> 00:53:59,447
<i>You're laughing,
but you know what I mean.</i>

906
00:53:59,447 --> 00:54:01,157
<i>Syncopate it a little.</i>

907
00:54:01,157 --> 00:54:02,826
He was drunk, you know?

908
00:54:02,826 --> 00:54:05,620
And Brian was masterful
in the studio, okay?

909
00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:07,789
<i>Give him the track, Chuck.</i>

910
00:54:07,789 --> 00:54:09,582
<i>Don't sing with it.
Let him sing it once.</i>

911
00:54:09,582 --> 00:54:10,917
<i>You want me to leave, Brian?</i>

912
00:54:10,917 --> 00:54:12,544
<i>No, I just want you
to let him sing it.</i>

913
00:54:12,544 --> 00:54:15,088
<i>Your mother and I can leave.</i>
<i>Did you really get drunk?</i>

914
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:18,091
They were both trying
to produce me on the song.

915
00:54:18,091 --> 00:54:20,593
And that's when they
kind of went to loggerheads.

916
00:54:21,219 --> 00:54:23,930
Trying to get me to--
So I kind of feel responsible in a way,

917
00:54:23,930 --> 00:54:25,640
but what the hell. I don't know.

918
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,309
<i>Chuck, turn it down.</i>
<i>I'm a genius too.</i>

919
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:29,686
<i>Let's go, huh?</i>

920
00:54:31,521 --> 00:54:32,856
<i>Turn down his playback.</i>

921
00:54:32,856 --> 00:54:34,691
Murry was jealous of Brian.

922
00:54:35,525 --> 00:54:37,402
{\an8}I didn't realize that for a while.

923
00:54:37,402 --> 00:54:40,488
{\an8}And when I did, I thought--
I was kind of shocked.

924
00:54:41,072 --> 00:54:44,826
<i>Brian. Forget who you are,
will you? Let's go. Let's roll.</i>

925
00:54:44,826 --> 00:54:46,619
<i>I'm just thinking about
who you are.</i>

926
00:54:47,454 --> 00:54:52,334
Murry had such a great desire
to be a songwriter and to be recognized.

927
00:54:52,334 --> 00:54:54,502
<i>Can we run it?</i>
<i>You guys get too much money,</i>

928
00:54:54,502 --> 00:54:57,672
<i>you start thinking
you're gonna make everything a hit.</i>

929
00:54:57,672 --> 00:54:59,090
- <i>Brian--</i>
<i>Let me ask you this.</i>

930
00:54:59,090 --> 00:55:00,842
- <i>Uh...</i>
<i>Come on now.</i>

931
00:55:00,842 --> 00:55:03,345
<i>I don't wanna start...
I just wanna make sure this is on tape.</i>

932
00:55:03,345 --> 00:55:05,680
<i>No, I'll never help you guys
mix another song.</i>

933
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,058
<i>Why?</i>
<i>When you guys get so big</i>

934
00:55:08,058 --> 00:55:10,852
<i>that you can't sing from your hearts,
you're going downhill.</i>

935
00:55:10,852 --> 00:55:13,021
<i>Downhill?</i>
<i>Downhill!</i>

936
00:55:13,021 --> 00:55:15,523
- <i>Son. Son, I'm sorry.</i>

937
00:55:15,523 --> 00:55:18,109
<i>I've protected you for 22 years,
but I can't go on</i>

938
00:55:18,109 --> 00:55:20,445
<i>if you're not gonna listen
to an intelligent man.</i>

939
00:55:21,654 --> 00:55:22,822
<i>Are you going now?</i>

940
00:55:22,822 --> 00:55:25,158
<i>If you wanna fight for success,
I'll go all out.</i>

941
00:55:25,158 --> 00:55:27,369
<i>No. I don't--
We don't want to do that.</i>

942
00:55:27,369 --> 00:55:29,746
<i>You think you got it made?</i>
<i>No, we don't.</i>

943
00:55:29,746 --> 00:55:31,915
<i>Chuck and I used to make
one hit after another...</i>

944
00:55:31,915 --> 00:55:35,126
<i>...in 30 minutes.
You guys take five hours to do it.</i>

945
00:55:35,126 --> 00:55:36,920
<i>Times are changing.</i>
<i>You know why?</i>

946
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,172
- <i>Because you think you have an image.</i>
<i>Times are changing.</i>

947
00:55:39,172 --> 00:55:40,924
<i>Don't ever forget.</i>

948
00:55:40,924 --> 00:55:42,550
<i>Times are changing.</i>

949
00:55:51,226 --> 00:55:54,979
We have learned
at a terrible and brutal cost

950
00:55:54,979 --> 00:55:57,899
that weakness does not bring peace.

951
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:02,821
And it is this lesson
that has brought us to Vietnam.

952
00:56:02,821 --> 00:56:05,615
<i>♪ Baby, please don't go down
to New Orleans ♪</i>

953
00:56:05,615 --> 00:56:06,866
<i>♪ You know I love you so ♪</i>

954
00:56:07,492 --> 00:56:11,121
The culture was changing
in all kinds of ways.

955
00:56:11,121 --> 00:56:14,165
<i>The psychedelic experience
is a voyage</i>

956
00:56:14,165 --> 00:56:18,420
<i>into the countless galaxies
of your own nervous system.</i>

957
00:56:18,962 --> 00:56:20,422
<i>♪ He had his shackles on ♪</i>

958
00:56:20,422 --> 00:56:21,965
<i>♪ Baby, please don't go ♪</i>

959
00:56:21,965 --> 00:56:25,885
The repeated use of LSD may
permanently alter the brain's function.

960
00:56:25,885 --> 00:56:27,095
<i>Liftoff.</i>

961
00:56:27,095 --> 00:56:28,805
I feel like a million dollars!

962
00:56:28,805 --> 00:56:32,434
<i>Freedom march from Selma
to Montgomery finally gets underway.</i>

963
00:56:32,434 --> 00:56:35,395
<i>♪ I make you walk alone
Baby, please don't go ♪</i>

964
00:56:35,395 --> 00:56:38,815
The mid-'60s
was an incredibly rich time musically.

965
00:56:39,816 --> 00:56:41,317
Just really opened up.

966
00:56:41,943 --> 00:56:44,529
Also the awakening of consciousness.

967
00:56:44,529 --> 00:56:49,200
Society not wanting to let the status quo
go on just because it's the status quo.

968
00:56:50,994 --> 00:56:53,079
<i>♪ Baby, please don't go ♪</i>

969
00:56:53,580 --> 00:56:54,956
<i>♪ Baby, please don't go ♪</i>

970
00:56:57,042 --> 00:56:59,169
We were on tour
and got back home.

971
00:56:59,169 --> 00:57:03,381
{\an8}We started getting indications
that Brian was taking some hallucinogens.

972
00:57:03,381 --> 00:57:07,093
LSD and stuff like that, which a lot of
the writers were doing at the time.

973
00:57:08,303 --> 00:57:11,056
He drove me around the parking lot
about 20 times.

974
00:57:12,015 --> 00:57:14,476
Explaining about this great trip
he'd just taken, you know?

975
00:57:16,644 --> 00:57:20,023
Oh, yeah. I did LSD,
and it just totally tore my head off.

976
00:57:20,023 --> 00:57:24,027
You just come to grips with what you are
and what you can do and what you can't do.

977
00:57:24,027 --> 00:57:26,488
And you learn to face it,
you know?

978
00:57:28,239 --> 00:57:30,658
Pretty soon,
the music was changing. Evolving.

979
00:57:31,326 --> 00:57:33,995
<i>Here we go.
This is real good now. Take 43.</i>

980
00:57:40,335 --> 00:57:43,672
Brian was hearing
these arrangements in his head.

981
00:57:43,672 --> 00:57:45,507
Who knows where they come from?

982
00:57:45,507 --> 00:57:48,510
Who knows where any arranger hears?

983
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:52,472
But most arrangers are guys
who have studied, studied, studied.

984
00:57:52,472 --> 00:57:54,641
They know just how to put 'em on a score.

985
00:57:54,641 --> 00:57:57,977
Brian used to explain it to us.

986
00:57:57,977 --> 00:58:03,358
<i>Here's the whole secret of this
whole thing is if we can go...</i>

987
00:58:03,358 --> 00:58:05,276
<i>If we can have that emphasis there, okay?</i>

988
00:58:05,276 --> 00:58:10,198
It was a matter of us tuning in to what
he was saying and playing what he wanted.

989
00:58:10,907 --> 00:58:13,243
We felt
a little bit more at home with Brian.

990
00:58:13,243 --> 00:58:15,120
He knew that we were jazz players.

991
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:20,458
And took after Phil Spector, in the sense
that he'd use the three or the four hours.

992
00:58:20,458 --> 00:58:22,919
And he'd do, like, one whole tune.

993
00:58:22,919 --> 00:58:24,504
Whereas on the other record days,

994
00:58:24,504 --> 00:58:26,965
we would do three or four tunes
in the same time.

995
00:58:28,258 --> 00:58:32,887
The big difference between Phil and Brian
was Brian was still inventing.

996
00:58:32,887 --> 00:58:35,181
He was constantly rewriting himself.

997
00:58:35,849 --> 00:58:38,184
He knew where it was going, but we didn't.

998
00:58:38,184 --> 00:58:42,397
And if you're a creative person,
he'd let you have that freedom to create,

999
00:58:42,397 --> 00:58:43,898
and he knew how to use it.

1000
00:58:43,898 --> 00:58:45,900
It's great talent to be able to do that.

1001
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:48,486
<i>Sorry, but that drags.
I hate to say it, really.</i>

1002
00:58:49,070 --> 00:58:50,196
<i>That-- That drags, Carol.</i>

1003
00:58:50,196 --> 00:58:52,949
We appreciate your loyal support.
See you next week, I hope.

1004
00:58:52,949 --> 00:58:56,619
In the meantime, it's <i>Shindig!</i> finale time
with Glen Campbell. Right over there.

1005
00:58:56,619 --> 00:58:57,704
Thank you.

1006
00:58:57,704 --> 00:59:00,749
By that time,
Glen Campbell has his own hit records.

1007
00:59:01,291 --> 00:59:03,043
He can't come out on tour anymore.

1008
00:59:03,043 --> 00:59:06,671
<i>♪ Dream, dream, baby ♪</i>

1009
00:59:06,671 --> 00:59:09,382
{\an8}Mike called me up.
He said, "You're in the record business."

1010
00:59:09,883 --> 00:59:13,845
{\an8}"Who do you know that could come out
for the weekend to fill in for Glen?"

1011
00:59:13,845 --> 00:59:15,805
So, I called about ten people.

1012
00:59:15,805 --> 00:59:18,641
I called him back.
I said, "I can't find anybody.

1013
00:59:18,641 --> 00:59:20,226
But, honest to God, there's still time.

1014
00:59:20,226 --> 00:59:23,104
I can go to the airport,
and I'll bring a keyboard,

1015
00:59:23,104 --> 00:59:25,273
and I'll just fill in for the weekend."

1016
00:59:26,149 --> 00:59:27,317
And that's how it started.

1017
00:59:29,486 --> 00:59:31,321
One of my first memories of Bruce,

1018
00:59:31,321 --> 00:59:34,824
I went into his hotel room,
and he was learning the bass,

1019
00:59:34,824 --> 00:59:36,284
so he could play it onstage.

1020
00:59:36,284 --> 00:59:38,161
He'd only ever played keyboard.

1021
00:59:40,580 --> 00:59:44,668
My dream was to make $250 a week.

1022
00:59:44,668 --> 00:59:46,002
I thought, "Wow."

1023
00:59:46,002 --> 00:59:48,797
And Carl calls me.
He said, "Could you come back out?"

1024
00:59:48,797 --> 00:59:50,382
So I came out for two weeks.

1025
00:59:51,341 --> 00:59:54,344
Carl says, "We can cut you a check.
What do you want?"

1026
00:59:55,762 --> 00:59:57,097
Two hundred and fifty dollars.

1027
00:59:57,097 --> 01:00:01,226
And so I get a check for $3,000,
'cause he thought I was asking per night.

1028
01:00:01,226 --> 01:00:02,310
I said, "Okay."

1029
01:00:02,894 --> 01:00:05,939
So,
that's how I got into the band.

1030
01:00:10,610 --> 01:00:12,320
{\an8}My best friend was Terry Melcher.

1031
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,115
{\an8}And so Terry calls me up, and he said,

1032
01:00:15,115 --> 01:00:18,743
{\an8}"My mom, Doris Day,
she's got the best stereo system."

1033
01:00:18,743 --> 01:00:21,663
{\an8}So we go over,
and there's John and Michelle Phillips,

1034
01:00:21,663 --> 01:00:24,791
Mike Love, Brian Wilson, me,
Doris, Terry Melcher.

1035
01:00:24,791 --> 01:00:27,252
And we listened to <i>Rubber Soul</i>.

1036
01:00:29,671 --> 01:00:32,173
Now, that was a turning point
in The Beatles' world.

1037
01:00:32,173 --> 01:00:34,300
It was also a turning point for Brian.

1038
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:36,636
<i>♪ I'm looking through you ♪</i>

1039
01:00:37,137 --> 01:00:39,139
<i>♪ Where did you go? ♪</i>

1040
01:00:39,139 --> 01:00:40,682
When I first heard that,
I flipped.

1041
01:00:40,682 --> 01:00:42,767
I said,
"I want to make an album like that."

1042
01:00:42,767 --> 01:00:46,021
Where all the songs seem to be
like a collection of folk songs, you know?

1043
01:00:47,313 --> 01:00:49,816
He saw <i>Rubber Soul</i>
as a thematic album.

1044
01:00:49,816 --> 01:00:52,110
A little light went on,
and he started dreaming up.

1045
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:55,363
Conceptual album. Front to back. Thematic.

1046
01:00:57,866 --> 01:01:00,618
They're competing
against The Beatles,

1047
01:01:00,618 --> 01:01:03,288
but these guys are still wearing
striped shirts?

1048
01:01:03,288 --> 01:01:05,415
<i>♪ I wish they all could be... ♪</i>

1049
01:01:05,415 --> 01:01:08,918
I think Brian saw the need
to grow out of that identity.

1050
01:01:10,003 --> 01:01:15,759
Not to be defined by the external labels,
which had been now placed on the band.

1051
01:01:20,013 --> 01:01:23,933
This is what you did last
time, and we want you to do that again.

1052
01:01:23,933 --> 01:01:27,020
I can hardly wait to get out there
and hang ten.

1053
01:01:29,189 --> 01:01:31,316
Hey, maybe you guys
would like to join our club.

1054
01:01:31,316 --> 01:01:33,818
Your surfing club, huh?
That sounds real cool.

1055
01:01:33,818 --> 01:01:35,737
Evolution is
absolutely necessary,

1056
01:01:35,737 --> 01:01:38,740
{\an8}but you have a hit
with a certain style of song.

1057
01:01:39,282 --> 01:01:42,118
{\an8}And you will have guys in the band
who will just be like,

1058
01:01:42,118 --> 01:01:45,372
"Guys, this is well-tread territory.
We know it works.

1059
01:01:45,372 --> 01:01:47,123
Let's do another one like this."

1060
01:01:48,166 --> 01:01:51,586
<i>♪ We wish they all could be
California Girls ♪</i>

1061
01:01:51,586 --> 01:01:53,129
A lot of artists,

1062
01:01:53,129 --> 01:01:55,632
when they have they have to make
these kind of choices,

1063
01:01:55,632 --> 01:01:58,468
don't often make the choice for art.

1064
01:02:02,555 --> 01:02:05,934
Al Jardine had this great idea
for The Beach Boys

1065
01:02:05,934 --> 01:02:09,938
to record a version of this
folk song called "Sloop John B."

1066
01:02:09,938 --> 01:02:13,441
<i>♪ We come on the sloop John B ♪</i>

1067
01:02:13,441 --> 01:02:16,903
<i>♪ My grandfather and me ♪</i>

1068
01:02:17,862 --> 01:02:20,115
It was recorded
by The Kingston Trio.

1069
01:02:20,115 --> 01:02:23,034
{\an8}Basically a template
from my own musical upbringing.

1070
01:02:23,868 --> 01:02:25,704
I was in a folk group in high school.

1071
01:02:26,496 --> 01:02:29,332
We replicated The Kingston Trio
note-for-note.

1072
01:02:29,332 --> 01:02:32,085
But when The Beach Boys formed,
I left my folk group behind.

1073
01:02:32,085 --> 01:02:34,170
I feel kinda guilty about it,
to be honest with you.

1074
01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:37,882
Anyway, I played Brian a song
called "Sloop John B."

1075
01:02:37,882 --> 01:02:39,926
<i>♪ Hoist up the John B's sail ♪</i>

1076
01:02:39,926 --> 01:02:42,387
Growing up,
he didn't like folk music really.

1077
01:02:42,387 --> 01:02:44,639
He was more music-driven
than story-driven.

1078
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:47,559
<i>♪ Call for the captain ashore
Let me go home ♪</i>

1079
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:49,060
But we sat down at the piano,

1080
01:02:49,060 --> 01:02:52,480
and I suggested we add a few chords
to give it that Beach Boy influence.

1081
01:02:53,231 --> 01:02:56,234
And he liked it. It fit our vocal style.

1082
01:02:57,527 --> 01:03:02,032
And then Brian went into the studio when
we were away touring to finish the song.

1083
01:03:03,324 --> 01:03:07,078
I remember being in Japan,
and Brian sent a mix of "Sloop John B."

1084
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:11,875
- <i>♪ Hoist up the John B's sail ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Hoist up the John B's ♪</i>

1085
01:03:11,875 --> 01:03:15,337
- <i>♪ See how the mainsail sets ♪</i>
- <i>♪ See how the mainsail ♪</i>

1086
01:03:15,337 --> 01:03:18,214
<i>♪ Call for the captain ashore ♪</i>

1087
01:03:18,214 --> 01:03:21,718
<i>♪ Let me go home ♪</i>

1088
01:03:21,718 --> 01:03:26,097
- <i>♪ I wanna go home ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Oh, let me go home ♪</i>

1089
01:03:26,097 --> 01:03:28,975
- <i>♪ Let me go ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Hoist up the John B's sail ♪</i>

1090
01:03:28,975 --> 01:03:30,685
<i>♪ Hoist up the John B's ♪</i>

1091
01:03:30,685 --> 01:03:33,021
<i>♪ I feel so broke up ♪</i>

1092
01:03:33,021 --> 01:03:35,899
<i>♪ I wanna go home ♪</i>

1093
01:03:35,899 --> 01:03:37,901
He produced a masterpiece.

1094
01:03:37,901 --> 01:03:40,403
If I'd produced it,
it would still be a folk song.

1095
01:03:40,403 --> 01:03:41,905
But now-- now it's a classic.

1096
01:03:44,282 --> 01:03:46,201
Brian was really growing

1097
01:03:46,201 --> 01:03:50,622
way beyond the three-,
four-chord format of doing pop tunes.

1098
01:03:50,622 --> 01:03:52,123
It just wasn't gonna do.

1099
01:03:52,707 --> 01:03:54,167
<i>♪ Let me go home ♪</i>

1100
01:03:54,167 --> 01:03:55,919
All of a sudden,

1101
01:03:55,919 --> 01:03:58,630
{\an8}I began to realize
that I had a lot of music to make.

1102
01:04:06,846 --> 01:04:09,182
<i>Here we go.
"Wouldn't It Be Nice." Take one.</i>

1103
01:04:12,435 --> 01:04:15,814
I wanted to write some songs
that reflected how I really felt,

1104
01:04:15,814 --> 01:04:20,235
rather than just car songs, surf songs,
something more introspective.

1105
01:04:21,069 --> 01:04:23,488
So I said, "Mike,
I'm writing with another collaborator."

1106
01:04:23,488 --> 01:04:26,074
And he goes, "What?
But I thought I was your collaborator."

1107
01:04:26,074 --> 01:04:29,327
I said, "Well, for this one album,
Tony Asher is my collaborator."

1108
01:04:30,954 --> 01:04:33,540
I was so overwhelmed
by what Brian was playing

1109
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:35,291
and coming up with and singing,

1110
01:04:35,917 --> 01:04:37,752
{\an8}I didn't think that much about the fact

1111
01:04:37,752 --> 01:04:41,798
{\an8}that lyrics were quite different than
the majority of the songs they'd done.

1112
01:04:41,798 --> 01:04:47,012
<i>♪ I keep lookin' for a place to fit in ♪</i>

1113
01:04:47,012 --> 01:04:51,850
<i>♪ where I can speak my mind ♪</i>

1114
01:04:54,185 --> 01:04:56,479
I knew there were lots of things
that he heard in his head

1115
01:04:56,479 --> 01:04:57,856
that I had no idea of.

1116
01:04:57,856 --> 01:05:00,275
<i>"I Just Wasn't Made
For These Times." Take one.</i>

1117
01:05:02,277 --> 01:05:05,530
That's when we started realizing
there's some genius here.

1118
01:05:05,530 --> 01:05:10,285
<i>You got one, two, three-- boom.
No. It's one, two, three... boop!</i>

1119
01:05:10,285 --> 01:05:12,704
They kept getting better
and better and better.

1120
01:05:12,704 --> 01:05:14,539
<i>Take two. "Let Go of Your Ego."</i>

1121
01:05:15,790 --> 01:05:19,544
I think not being schooled, like he was,
was a great thing.

1122
01:05:19,544 --> 01:05:21,629
You know,
because he didn't know the limits.

1123
01:05:21,629 --> 01:05:23,965
He didn't know
he was not supposed to do things.

1124
01:05:27,302 --> 01:05:28,553
<i>Let's make it real tight, okay?</i>

1125
01:05:28,553 --> 01:05:31,222
Phil Spector records,
marvels that they are,

1126
01:05:31,222 --> 01:05:33,850
they're kinda--
They're still like in black and white.

1127
01:05:33,850 --> 01:05:39,939
{\an8}Brian got the same guys
but wrote songs and arrangements

1128
01:05:39,939 --> 01:05:41,941
that put the thing in Technicolor.

1129
01:05:43,777 --> 01:05:44,778
<i>Nice.</i>

1130
01:05:45,695 --> 01:05:47,072
We were still in Japan

1131
01:05:47,072 --> 01:05:50,742
while he was recording a lot of the tracks
for <i>Pet Sounds</i>.

1132
01:05:51,868 --> 01:05:55,455
Then when they got back, the
tracks were ready for 'em, ready to go.

1133
01:05:55,455 --> 01:05:58,375
All they had to do was go
and learn their parts, sing.

1134
01:05:59,376 --> 01:06:01,127
A lot of the lyrics were strange.

1135
01:06:01,127 --> 01:06:03,380
Especially to Mike,
who's more sensitive to lyrics.

1136
01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:04,923
<i>Here we go. Take 11.</i>

1137
01:06:04,923 --> 01:06:06,341
<i>Take 19, please.</i>

1138
01:06:06,341 --> 01:06:08,134
<i>Okay. Take 27, please.</i>

1139
01:06:08,677 --> 01:06:13,765
Brian had an obsession
with getting things absolutely perfect.

1140
01:06:14,432 --> 01:06:15,850
Like on "Wouldn't It Be Nice,"

1141
01:06:15,850 --> 01:06:18,728
we must have done the backgrounds
30 times.

1142
01:06:19,854 --> 01:06:23,692
<i>♪ You know it's gonna make it
that much better ♪</i>

1143
01:06:23,692 --> 01:06:29,906
<i>♪ When we can say good night
and stay together ♪</i>

1144
01:06:29,906 --> 01:06:33,993
I started calling him "dog ears,"
because it was perfect vocally,

1145
01:06:33,993 --> 01:06:37,664
but Brian could hear something
that most human beings cannot.

1146
01:06:37,664 --> 01:06:41,584
<i>♪ And after having spent
the day together ♪</i>

1147
01:06:42,711 --> 01:06:45,380
You listen to the vocals
on <i>Pet Sounds</i>,

1148
01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:47,382
they're some of the best ever recorded.

1149
01:06:47,382 --> 01:06:50,468
<i>♪ Happy times together
we'd be spending ♪</i>

1150
01:06:50,468 --> 01:06:57,308
<i>♪ I wish that every kiss
was never-ending ♪</i>

1151
01:06:57,308 --> 01:07:00,228
<i>♪ Oh, wouldn't it be nice? ♪</i>

1152
01:07:02,397 --> 01:07:04,482
To us it was more than a record.

1153
01:07:04,482 --> 01:07:06,484
{\an8}It was a new place.

1154
01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:10,321
It was popular music
coming to a new level.

1155
01:07:10,321 --> 01:07:16,286
<i>♪ Baby, then there wouldn't be
a single thing we couldn't do ♪</i>

1156
01:07:16,286 --> 01:07:20,540
- <i>♪ Oh, we could be married ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Oh, we could be married ♪</i>

1157
01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:24,586
- <i>♪ And then we'd be happy ♪</i>
- <i>♪ And then we'd be happy ♪</i>

1158
01:07:24,586 --> 01:07:27,672
<i>♪ Oh, wouldn't it be nice! ♪</i>

1159
01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:32,969
But when we played it
for Capitol Records,

1160
01:07:32,969 --> 01:07:35,138
and they said, "Geez. This is great, guys.

1161
01:07:35,138 --> 01:07:36,723
But couldn't you do something more like

1162
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:40,060
'Surfin' U.S.A.'
or 'California Girls' or 'I Get Around'?"

1163
01:07:47,817 --> 01:07:49,903
Capitol Records
didn't really understand,

1164
01:07:49,903 --> 01:07:55,575
they were concerned about selling
albums and having commercial success.

1165
01:07:56,576 --> 01:08:00,080
And, uh, we were growing up.

1166
01:08:02,082 --> 01:08:06,461
We'd allowed Capitol Records to do our PR
and public relations and stuff.

1167
01:08:07,253 --> 01:08:09,339
And they didn't know how to treat it.

1168
01:08:09,964 --> 01:08:14,969
So, we needed somebody who got the idea
of <i>Pet Sounds</i> being an evolution.

1169
01:08:17,555 --> 01:08:21,142
{\an8}Derek Taylor was brilliant.
He was The Beatles' publicist for a while.

1170
01:08:21,142 --> 01:08:24,562
Then he moved to America,
and he became our publicist.

1171
01:08:25,605 --> 01:08:30,610
Derek Taylor is the one that came up with
the "Brian Wilson is a genius" moniker.

1172
01:08:31,778 --> 01:08:33,697
If you look
in The Beach Boys' history,

1173
01:08:33,697 --> 01:08:37,534
there is that constant struggle
between Brian and everybody else.

1174
01:08:38,201 --> 01:08:43,039
And, I think, perhaps the genius label,
in a way, gets linked to him

1175
01:08:43,748 --> 01:08:46,835
in part
because of his psychological struggles.

1176
01:08:50,255 --> 01:08:51,589
The solitude of Brian.

1177
01:08:52,215 --> 01:08:53,466
The loneliness of Brian.

1178
01:08:54,217 --> 01:08:59,639
I think that's gone a long way
to fleshing out his musical genius

1179
01:08:59,639 --> 01:09:01,474
as part of a larger sense of,

1180
01:09:01,474 --> 01:09:06,396
"Well, he's a lone-- a lone figure
separate from the group."

1181
01:09:07,397 --> 01:09:08,815
And that's not fair to them.

1182
01:09:10,734 --> 01:09:13,486
I'm president
of the Brian Wilson fan club.

1183
01:09:13,486 --> 01:09:17,907
But the musicality of every Beach Boy
is essential.

1184
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:24,039
If we didn't have the ability, we wouldn't
have been able to sing these parts.

1185
01:09:28,251 --> 01:09:31,671
Brian was lucky to have our voices
to sing his dreams.

1186
01:09:36,134 --> 01:09:39,721
When we were done with the album,
I'm talking to Derek Taylor,

1187
01:09:39,721 --> 01:09:43,224
and he said, "Why don't you come
to England to promote <i>Pet Sounds</i>?"

1188
01:09:44,225 --> 01:09:45,727
I said, "But it's not out there."

1189
01:09:45,727 --> 01:09:47,062
"Bring it anyway."

1190
01:09:48,104 --> 01:09:49,856
There's a guy who was getting famous

1191
01:09:49,856 --> 01:09:52,692
and dying to become one of The Beach Boys.
Keith Moon.

1192
01:09:53,568 --> 01:09:55,737
So he shows up at my suite.

1193
01:09:57,072 --> 01:09:59,532
{\an8}He says,
"I'm gonna guide you through England,

1194
01:09:59,532 --> 01:10:01,451
and you're going to meet everybody."

1195
01:10:01,993 --> 01:10:03,745
And I probably did 20 interviews.

1196
01:10:04,454 --> 01:10:05,914
I was a hero.

1197
01:10:05,914 --> 01:10:08,625
"Hey, I've got the new Beach Boys' album.
It's <i>Pet Sounds</i>."

1198
01:10:10,418 --> 01:10:13,505
And then, at the end of the week,
I come back to the hotel.

1199
01:10:13,505 --> 01:10:15,840
"Hey, man.
You better get up to the suite."

1200
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,092
"Why?"

1201
01:10:17,092 --> 01:10:20,679
"Lennon and McCartney are waiting
for you. They wanna hear <i>Pet Sounds</i>."

1202
01:10:20,679 --> 01:10:23,807
"What? I-- I haven't been
in the band that long."

1203
01:10:26,017 --> 01:10:29,104
So, they're dressed in Edwardian suits.

1204
01:10:29,104 --> 01:10:31,356
And they play the album a couple of times.

1205
01:10:32,315 --> 01:10:35,110
I just thought, "Oh, dear me.
This is the album of all time.

1206
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:37,028
{\an8}What the hell are we gonna do?"

1207
01:10:37,028 --> 01:10:39,864
Just 'cause the musical invention
on that is, like, wow.

1208
01:10:41,408 --> 01:10:44,703
<i>♪ I may not always love you ♪</i>

1209
01:10:45,286 --> 01:10:48,623
<i>♪ But long as there are stars above you ♪</i>

1210
01:10:49,541 --> 01:10:52,794
<i>♪ You never need to doubt it ♪</i>

1211
01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:57,048
<i>♪ I'll make you so sure about it ♪</i>

1212
01:10:57,549 --> 01:11:00,552
When I first heard "God Only Knows,"
I remember crying.

1213
01:11:01,386 --> 01:11:04,889
I remember tearing up
thinking about those lyrics.

1214
01:11:06,182 --> 01:11:09,436
<i>♪ If you should ever leave me ♪</i>

1215
01:11:10,020 --> 01:11:13,440
<i>♪ Though life would still go on
Believe me ♪</i>

1216
01:11:14,065 --> 01:11:17,819
<i>♪ The world could show nothing to me ♪</i>

1217
01:11:17,819 --> 01:11:21,406
<i>♪ So what good would living do me? ♪</i>

1218
01:11:22,490 --> 01:11:26,911
<i>♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪</i>

1219
01:11:28,496 --> 01:11:30,999
When we listen to something
like <i>Pet Sounds</i> now,

1220
01:11:30,999 --> 01:11:34,044
and the orchestration on that,
people go, "Yeah, cool."

1221
01:11:34,044 --> 01:11:36,629
{\an8}What they forget is, he did it first.

1222
01:11:38,214 --> 01:11:43,762
Brian put together textures that no one
had ever put into popular songs before.

1223
01:11:52,562 --> 01:11:56,149
<i>♪ God only knows
what I'd be without you ♪</i>

1224
01:11:56,149 --> 01:12:00,737
Brian made that decision
to thwart the listeners' expectations

1225
01:12:00,737 --> 01:12:04,574
for the sake of his art,
and it did not go unnoticed.

1226
01:12:05,492 --> 01:12:09,079
Paul McCartney said
"God Only Knows" is like the perfect song.

1227
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:11,373
And then they got busy
on their next album.

1228
01:12:14,167 --> 01:12:17,337
I think it's more interesting
to think less of the competition,

1229
01:12:17,962 --> 01:12:20,131
and more of it as a collaboration.

1230
01:12:23,968 --> 01:12:26,805
{\an8}Together, that healthy collaboration
was advancing the music.

1231
01:12:26,805 --> 01:12:28,098
{\an8}It was advancing the culture.

1232
01:12:28,098 --> 01:12:31,518
{\an8}It was advancing
what rock music meant and could be.

1233
01:12:32,435 --> 01:12:35,814
And I always wondered,
if one of them didn't have the other,

1234
01:12:36,564 --> 01:12:38,942
would their music
actually be what it became?

1235
01:12:41,361 --> 01:12:45,198
But <i>Sgt. Pepper's</i> was more
of a commercial success than <i>Pet Sounds</i>.

1236
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:49,494
{\an8}This is one of the great accomplishments
of The Beatles

1237
01:12:49,494 --> 01:12:52,914
{\an8}was they evolved
and thwarted over and over again.

1238
01:12:53,581 --> 01:12:55,750
But they did it gradually.

1239
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:59,421
They did it as a group
who all wanted the same thing.

1240
01:12:59,421 --> 01:13:03,591
But with <i>Pet Sounds</i>,
there was kind of a jump from here,

1241
01:13:03,591 --> 01:13:05,051
all of a sudden they're, you know,

1242
01:13:05,051 --> 01:13:07,929
something snapped, and you are over here,
unlike The Beatles.

1243
01:13:16,646 --> 01:13:19,107
<i>Pet Sounds</i> was so radical

1244
01:13:19,107 --> 01:13:22,277
{\an8}compared to the really
nice commercial albums

1245
01:13:22,277 --> 01:13:23,319
that we'd been making,

1246
01:13:23,319 --> 01:13:27,699
that Capitol had been so successful
in selling that they just wanted more.

1247
01:13:28,283 --> 01:13:31,619
So, instead of promoting <i>Pet Sounds</i>
here in America,

1248
01:13:31,619 --> 01:13:34,497
Capitol put out
the first <i>Best of The Beach Boys</i>

1249
01:13:34,497 --> 01:13:35,874
and promoted that.

1250
01:13:35,874 --> 01:13:37,417
And it went gold quickly.

1251
01:13:37,417 --> 01:13:41,504
{\an8}And they didn't promote <i>Pet Sounds</i> because
they said that it wasn't commercial,

1252
01:13:41,504 --> 01:13:43,089
{\an8}and the people wouldn't understand it.

1253
01:13:46,968 --> 01:13:49,429
They called us "the number one
surfing group in the USA,"

1254
01:13:49,429 --> 01:13:51,765
it was completely ridiculous,

1255
01:13:51,765 --> 01:13:54,893
in light of the fact that there was things
like the Vietnam War,

1256
01:13:54,893 --> 01:13:58,563
and student demonstrations,
and the Civil Rights Movement,

1257
01:13:58,563 --> 01:14:02,150
and all these things that the youth
of society was completely caught up in.

1258
01:14:02,650 --> 01:14:07,739
It certainly wasn't the idyllic culture
that we sang about in the early '60s.

1259
01:14:15,538 --> 01:14:17,374
He couldn't understand it.

1260
01:14:17,374 --> 01:14:21,795
The thing that he put his heart and soul
into more than any record he'd ever done,

1261
01:14:22,504 --> 01:14:25,340
and people didn't think it was that great.

1262
01:14:27,342 --> 01:14:31,930
<i>Pet Sounds</i> was not commercially
received as it was critically,

1263
01:14:31,930 --> 01:14:33,765
and I think it hurt Brian.

1264
01:14:34,432 --> 01:14:37,644
I think he was at a very vulnerable stage
in his life.

1265
01:14:40,939 --> 01:14:44,109
My whole life depended
on the success of The Beach Boys,

1266
01:14:44,109 --> 01:14:46,528
and I'm very deeply affected
by what people think.

1267
01:14:48,613 --> 01:14:51,533
I said, "Look, I want to do something
that people will respect.

1268
01:14:51,533 --> 01:14:53,868
And not just industry people,
but the public."

1269
01:14:55,870 --> 01:14:56,955
<i>Let me hear the organ.</i>

1270
01:14:58,748 --> 01:15:01,209
"Good Vibrations"
was very schizophrenic.

1271
01:15:01,209 --> 01:15:04,379
It was recorded in many different studios.
Uh, three to be exact.

1272
01:15:04,379 --> 01:15:05,547
<i>Stop, please.</i>

1273
01:15:06,631 --> 01:15:10,176
I'd bet you it'd be a half million bucks
just for the track now. Just the track.

1274
01:15:11,594 --> 01:15:14,514
He really was going after
what he was going after.

1275
01:15:15,098 --> 01:15:18,351
I mean, who in their right mind
ever thought of putting a theremin

1276
01:15:19,185 --> 01:15:21,688
on a-- on a pop record?

1277
01:15:24,607 --> 01:15:26,985
Let's go from the top.
You got that. Okay.

1278
01:15:26,985 --> 01:15:29,029
All right. This will be take 25.

1279
01:15:30,155 --> 01:15:32,824
"Good Vibrations."
We were in for three months.

1280
01:15:32,824 --> 01:15:34,451
Nobody does that.

1281
01:15:35,702 --> 01:15:37,829
A lot of guys would say,
"He's out of his mind."

1282
01:15:37,829 --> 01:15:38,913
I never said that.

1283
01:15:38,913 --> 01:15:41,666
I always respected
the genius of Brian Wilson.

1284
01:15:43,126 --> 01:15:47,630
Eventually, Brian made it studio worthy
for us to sing on.

1285
01:15:48,298 --> 01:15:51,885
But Mike's driving to the session,
but he hasn't written the words.

1286
01:15:51,885 --> 01:15:54,846
So his wife, Suzanne,
in the passenger seat.

1287
01:15:54,846 --> 01:15:58,600
Mike's driving, dictating words to her
as he goes to the studio.

1288
01:15:59,809 --> 01:16:03,021
<i>♪ I'm pickin' up good vibrations ♪</i>

1289
01:16:03,021 --> 01:16:06,358
<i>♪ She's giving me the excitations ♪</i>

1290
01:16:06,358 --> 01:16:09,611
- <i>♪ I'm pickin' up good vibrations ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Oom-bop-bop, good vibrations ♪</i>

1291
01:16:09,611 --> 01:16:12,947
- <i>♪ She's giving me the excitations ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Bop-pop, excitations ♪</i>

1292
01:16:12,947 --> 01:16:15,742
- <i>♪ Good, good, good, good vibrations ♪</i>

1293
01:16:15,742 --> 01:16:18,578
- <i>♪ She's giving me the excitations ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Bop-pop, excitations ♪</i>

1294
01:16:18,578 --> 01:16:22,665
- <i>♪ Good, good, good, good vibrations ♪</i>

1295
01:16:22,665 --> 01:16:25,085
- <i>♪ She's giving me the excitations ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Bop-pop, excitation ♪</i>

1296
01:16:25,085 --> 01:16:26,461
<i>♪ Close my eyes ♪</i>

1297
01:16:26,461 --> 01:16:28,380
It only took us
two nights to sing.

1298
01:16:28,380 --> 01:16:31,049
It took Brian several months
to put it together.

1299
01:16:31,633 --> 01:16:35,595
He spent a lot of time on that,
and I couldn't figure out why, you know?

1300
01:16:35,595 --> 01:16:37,681
But that was Brian.

1301
01:16:37,681 --> 01:16:43,186
<i>♪ When I look in her eyes ♪</i>

1302
01:16:44,771 --> 01:16:47,899
When I heard the thing, I said,
"Whoa! That's it, man.

1303
01:16:47,899 --> 01:16:49,150
That's the monster hit."

1304
01:16:49,150 --> 01:16:50,568
And it was the monster hit.

1305
01:16:50,568 --> 01:16:53,697
{\an8}<i>♪ I'm picking up good vibrations ♪</i>

1306
01:16:53,697 --> 01:16:56,825
<i>♪ She's giving me excitations ♪</i>

1307
01:16:56,825 --> 01:16:58,076
Once again,

1308
01:16:58,076 --> 01:17:02,706
our writing relationship proved out
to be extremely successful.

1309
01:17:06,584 --> 01:17:10,463
The problem was,
Brian was being hailed as a genius,

1310
01:17:10,463 --> 01:17:13,133
but there was no credit
for the rest of the band,

1311
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,552
or Mike Love for writing songs.

1312
01:17:16,594 --> 01:17:21,725
It would've been nice
had that reality been put forward.

1313
01:17:21,725 --> 01:17:26,771
It might have been a little bit easier
for Brian to handle the "genius" label.

1314
01:17:34,696 --> 01:17:37,532
In 1966, we were on tour.

1315
01:17:38,199 --> 01:17:41,369
And even though
<i>Pet Sounds</i> didn't do that well in the US,

1316
01:17:42,162 --> 01:17:44,497
England really came through for us.

1317
01:17:45,832 --> 01:17:49,836
We were voted the number one group.
Number two being The Beatles.

1318
01:17:56,259 --> 01:17:57,677
They just loved us,

1319
01:17:57,677 --> 01:18:00,472
and "Good Vibrations" broke in
at number one over there.

1320
01:18:00,472 --> 01:18:03,475
So there was this pressure
to deliver something great

1321
01:18:03,475 --> 01:18:06,061
with the next album, <i>Smile</i>.

1322
01:18:10,398 --> 01:18:14,986
We were busy touring and stuff,
so I wasn't writing with him at that time.

1323
01:18:15,612 --> 01:18:17,864
It was Van Dyke Parks.

1324
01:18:18,448 --> 01:18:20,700
Twenty-one. Take 250. Marker.

1325
01:18:21,826 --> 01:18:23,161
All music passes with me

1326
01:18:23,161 --> 01:18:27,415
{\an8}but The Beach Boys, I like
because of their essential modesty.

1327
01:18:28,541 --> 01:18:30,210
So, I wrote some lyrics for Brian,

1328
01:18:30,210 --> 01:18:32,587
and I think that that's been my best shot
in town yet.

1329
01:18:32,587 --> 01:18:36,466
<i>♪ Well you're well
You're welcome ♪</i>

1330
01:18:36,466 --> 01:18:39,594
I met him on the lawn
of Terry Melcher's house.

1331
01:18:40,512 --> 01:18:43,598
I thought, "Wow. That guy has
a great style of talking." You know?

1332
01:18:43,598 --> 01:18:46,726
{\an8}And I said, "Hey. Would you like
to write some lyrics with me?"

1333
01:18:46,726 --> 01:18:48,687
He goes, "Sure. I'll give it a try."

1334
01:18:50,605 --> 01:18:53,942
Those were the days
of considerable drug abuse.

1335
01:18:55,151 --> 01:18:58,321
<i>♪ Well you're well
You're welcome ♪</i>

1336
01:18:58,321 --> 01:19:00,907
I was into
taking a lot of stimulant pills,

1337
01:19:00,907 --> 01:19:03,535
{\an8}'cause I didn't think I had any energy
of my own, you know?

1338
01:19:03,535 --> 01:19:06,246
So I would take these pills,
and they would--

1339
01:19:06,246 --> 01:19:08,164
You know... [exclaims] ...there it is.

1340
01:19:08,164 --> 01:19:09,207
I took the pill.

1341
01:19:09,207 --> 01:19:10,417
I feel great.

1342
01:19:11,251 --> 01:19:14,713
And Van Dyke Parks and I used to take
uppers and write songs together.

1343
01:19:14,713 --> 01:19:16,339
We'd write our heads off.

1344
01:19:18,091 --> 01:19:19,759
This was way ahead of our time.

1345
01:19:19,759 --> 01:19:23,013
This was the most advanced
musical experimentation

1346
01:19:23,013 --> 01:19:24,806
in the popular music industry.

1347
01:19:24,806 --> 01:19:30,562
<i>♪ Well, you're welcome to come ♪</i>

1348
01:19:39,863 --> 01:19:41,865
He started
to get into deep water then.

1349
01:19:42,449 --> 01:19:46,244
I should say he started
to get into difficulty inside of himself,

1350
01:19:46,244 --> 01:19:48,413
and, yet, the music was fantastic.

1351
01:19:50,290 --> 01:19:52,500
I was getting pretty far out
by that time.

1352
01:19:52,500 --> 01:19:54,544
{\an8}I had the musicians wearing fire helmets.

1353
01:19:54,544 --> 01:19:56,838
I had a guy bring in a bucket
with burning wood

1354
01:19:56,838 --> 01:19:58,882
to smell of smoke in the studio.

1355
01:19:58,882 --> 01:20:00,050
I mean, I was crazy.

1356
01:20:02,344 --> 01:20:04,429
It so happens that a building burned down

1357
01:20:04,429 --> 01:20:06,848
the same day
we were doing that down the street.

1358
01:20:07,932 --> 01:20:11,102
I began to think that we started that fire
somehow mystically.

1359
01:20:12,771 --> 01:20:14,689
I had a lot of money, of course.
I'm a millionaire.

1360
01:20:14,689 --> 01:20:18,026
And I was able
to get ahold of all these drugs, you know?

1361
01:20:18,026 --> 01:20:20,487
And they fucked--

1362
01:20:20,487 --> 01:20:23,490
I was able to get ahold
of all these drugs and they messed me up.

1363
01:20:23,490 --> 01:20:26,493
They, uh-- They messed my mind up.

1364
01:20:28,453 --> 01:20:31,956
He was pretty paranoid
and ultra sensitive.

1365
01:20:32,499 --> 01:20:35,960
But I was there as one of the troops
to go in and do backgrounds.

1366
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,630
I sang on many of those songs.

1367
01:20:42,717 --> 01:20:45,220
It's been said
that Michael was not supportive.

1368
01:20:45,220 --> 01:20:49,057
And there were certain things
that he was not supportive of.

1369
01:20:49,724 --> 01:20:51,726
The heavy drug taking

1370
01:20:51,726 --> 01:20:55,730
and the acid alliteration,
I used to call it, of Van Dyke Parks.

1371
01:20:56,773 --> 01:20:58,858
I wasn't close enough
to the other guys.

1372
01:20:58,858 --> 01:21:01,403
I was in a position
of defending my lyrics.

1373
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:05,365
Mike Love said to me one day--
He said, "Explain this.

1374
01:21:05,907 --> 01:21:09,202
'Over and over,
the crow cries, "Uncover the cornfield."'

1375
01:21:09,202 --> 01:21:11,538
"Van Dyke, what does that lyric mean?"

1376
01:21:11,538 --> 01:21:13,623
He says, "I don't know. I haven't a clue."

1377
01:21:13,623 --> 01:21:14,791
I said, "Exactly."

1378
01:21:15,792 --> 01:21:18,461
He thought
the lyrics were not relatable.

1379
01:21:19,295 --> 01:21:20,672
Personally, I loved it.

1380
01:21:20,672 --> 01:21:23,258
So artistic and abstract.

1381
01:21:23,925 --> 01:21:26,678
<i>♪ Hung velvet overtaken me ♪</i>

1382
01:21:26,678 --> 01:21:29,597
<i>♪ Dim chandelier awaken me ♪</i>

1383
01:21:29,597 --> 01:21:34,561
<i>♪ To a song dissolved in the dawn ♪</i>

1384
01:21:34,561 --> 01:21:38,815
I realized that Brian and Van Dyke
were expressing a new poetry.

1385
01:21:39,441 --> 01:21:44,612
But it could be that it was not
an appropriate project for The Beach Boys.

1386
01:21:44,612 --> 01:21:48,033
Maybe that would have been most fitting
as Brian's album.

1387
01:21:48,033 --> 01:21:55,123
<i>♪ Columnated ruins domino ♪</i>

1388
01:21:57,167 --> 01:22:01,254
I wanted to do my kind of music,
and they wanted to do their kind of music.

1389
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,631
So, it was a tug-of-war.

1390
01:22:04,466 --> 01:22:06,384
I felt like I was getting pulled
to pieces.

1391
01:22:06,885 --> 01:22:08,053
<i>♪ Surf's up ♪</i>

1392
01:22:12,015 --> 01:22:15,769
<i>♪ Aboard a tidal wave ♪</i>

1393
01:22:16,603 --> 01:22:19,356
Very chaotic,
very turbulent time for him,

1394
01:22:20,857 --> 01:22:23,860
and he was just not able to finish
<i>the Smile</i> project.

1395
01:22:25,695 --> 01:22:28,698
He took <i>the Smile</i> tapes
and shelved them.

1396
01:22:30,992 --> 01:22:32,744
It was too much for him to finish.

1397
01:22:33,328 --> 01:22:35,246
He just put it away.

1398
01:22:41,086 --> 01:22:46,758
It was, primarily, he had this fear,
I think, that the music would be rejected.

1399
01:22:48,009 --> 01:22:50,553
I thought that it was inappropriate music
for us to make.

1400
01:22:50,553 --> 01:22:52,931
Inappropriate for you,
Brian Wilson, or for The Beach Boys?

1401
01:22:52,931 --> 01:22:54,474
For The Beach Boys, yeah.

1402
01:22:54,474 --> 01:22:56,101
What was inappropriate
about it?

1403
01:22:56,101 --> 01:22:59,020
Well, it was just the ideas
behind the songs were too weird.

1404
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:01,356
It was like fire and elements and,
you know?

1405
01:23:01,356 --> 01:23:03,024
I just threw it away. I junked it.

1406
01:23:06,277 --> 01:23:07,946
We were pretty exhausted by then.

1407
01:23:07,946 --> 01:23:11,282
And so, we decided to build a studio
inside Brian's home.

1408
01:23:12,117 --> 01:23:14,119
And we were able
to come back together socially,

1409
01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:16,538
and actually enjoy doing
what we were doing again.

1410
01:23:17,580 --> 01:23:18,915
It's almost like starting over.

1411
01:23:19,624 --> 01:23:22,544
And so we made this little album
called <i>Smiley Smile</i>.

1412
01:23:22,544 --> 01:23:25,588
<i>♪ I'm gonna be around my vegetables ♪</i>

1413
01:23:25,588 --> 01:23:27,382
<i>♪ I'm gonna chow down my vegetables ♪</i>

1414
01:23:27,382 --> 01:23:29,342
There's crazy stuff
on that album.

1415
01:23:29,342 --> 01:23:32,095
We had a song
about your favorite vegetable.

1416
01:23:32,929 --> 01:23:34,389
I know it sounds crazy.

1417
01:23:34,389 --> 01:23:36,266
<i>♪ My favorite vegetable ♪</i>

1418
01:23:38,018 --> 01:23:41,730
<i>Smiley Smile</i> shows a lot
of psychological cracking,

1419
01:23:41,730 --> 01:23:43,523
and strangeness and oddballness.

1420
01:23:43,523 --> 01:23:46,067
That's when I was like,
"Whoa! This is quite different."

1421
01:23:46,067 --> 01:23:49,195
For someone who's hungry
for experimental sounds,

1422
01:23:49,195 --> 01:23:51,698
or unpredictable musical experiences,

1423
01:23:51,698 --> 01:23:54,200
that whole album
is an unpredictable musical experience.

1424
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,662
<i>♪ I'm gonna keep well, my vegetables ♪</i>

1425
01:23:57,662 --> 01:24:00,498
<i>♪ Cart off and sell my vegetables ♪</i>

1426
01:24:00,498 --> 01:24:04,461
Brian's innovation and obsession
with pushing the envelope musically

1427
01:24:04,461 --> 01:24:07,297
is what helped take them to another level.

1428
01:24:08,006 --> 01:24:11,968
But there is an inherent risk
when you take those big swings:

1429
01:24:11,968 --> 01:24:16,806
To swing and completely overshoot
your fan base because you went too far.

1430
01:24:24,898 --> 01:24:26,900
I created my head off.
I made a lot of records.

1431
01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:28,568
And sang my face off.

1432
01:24:29,194 --> 01:24:33,823
{\an8}I reached the point of exhaustion,
and, uh, I did retreat.

1433
01:24:33,823 --> 01:24:38,328
<i>♪ Your favorite vegetable ♪</i>

1434
01:24:41,581 --> 01:24:44,167
He was at this point
with The Beach Boys

1435
01:24:44,167 --> 01:24:48,755
where they weren't as happy
with the music he wanted to create.

1436
01:24:48,755 --> 01:24:52,175
You know, there was a lot
of squabbling going on all the time.

1437
01:24:52,175 --> 01:24:55,095
And Brian just said,
"You know what? Let them do it.

1438
01:24:55,095 --> 01:24:57,597
Let them do it.
Let them see how easy it is."

1439
01:25:02,477 --> 01:25:04,813
Even though
he was the mastermind,

1440
01:25:04,813 --> 01:25:08,066
he, suddenly,
did not have their full support.

1441
01:25:09,484 --> 01:25:14,656
And, I think, because it was his family,
it made that much more difficult

1442
01:25:14,656 --> 01:25:19,911
and, perhaps,
much more demanding on his psyche.

1443
01:25:21,162 --> 01:25:26,751
So many artists who have very,
very significant commercial success

1444
01:25:26,751 --> 01:25:30,505
forget why they got into the business
in the first place.

1445
01:25:30,505 --> 01:25:32,132
Why they do music.

1446
01:25:32,132 --> 01:25:38,096
And now, you are judging your validity
through commerce

1447
01:25:39,180 --> 01:25:40,473
more than anything else.

1448
01:25:44,894 --> 01:25:48,815
At that time
the Monterey Pop Festival was going on.

1449
01:25:49,733 --> 01:25:53,111
They were supposed to headline
Saturday night, but they dropped out.

1450
01:25:53,820 --> 01:25:56,156
{\an8}I couldn't believe it.
Nobody could believe it.

1451
01:25:56,698 --> 01:25:58,199
This was such a turning point.

1452
01:25:58,700 --> 01:26:00,076
Who knows what would've happened?

1453
01:26:00,660 --> 01:26:03,997
{\an8}<i>♪ Why don't you all fade away ♪</i>

1454
01:26:04,664 --> 01:26:09,336
- <i>♪ Don't try to dig what we all say ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Talkin' about my generation ♪</i>

1455
01:26:09,336 --> 01:26:10,670
<i>♪ I'm not trying to cause ♪</i>

1456
01:26:11,338 --> 01:26:13,173
- <i>♪ A big sensation ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Talkin' about my generation ♪</i>

1457
01:26:13,173 --> 01:26:17,218
- <i>♪ I'm just talking about my generation ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Talkin' about my generation ♪</i>

1458
01:26:18,136 --> 01:26:22,807
You know, that was The Who,
Janis Joplin, along with Hendrix.

1459
01:26:23,433 --> 01:26:26,102
Jefferson Airplane,
and, of course, The Dead.

1460
01:26:32,317 --> 01:26:36,321
Psychedelia had kicked in and, all
of a sudden, it was a whole different era.

1461
01:26:44,245 --> 01:26:48,166
Monterey Pop was seen
as a culture-changing moment,

1462
01:26:48,166 --> 01:26:49,167
and they weren't there.

1463
01:26:50,877 --> 01:26:55,840
Because we were in such disarray,
we missed that train, so to speak.

1464
01:27:00,887 --> 01:27:02,389
They weren't with the times,

1465
01:27:02,389 --> 01:27:05,183
and they weren't pushing
to where things were going.

1466
01:27:06,017 --> 01:27:10,897
In the early '60s, they became
the poster boys for the California dream.

1467
01:27:10,897 --> 01:27:14,734
But at the end of the '60s,
that dream changed,

1468
01:27:14,734 --> 01:27:19,823
and they never made enough
of a public-facing shift

1469
01:27:19,823 --> 01:27:22,283
to change with the times.

1470
01:27:22,283 --> 01:27:24,744
<i>♪ Well, East Coast girls are hip ♪</i>

1471
01:27:24,744 --> 01:27:29,958
{\an8}<i>♪ I really dig those styles they wear ♪</i>

1472
01:27:29,958 --> 01:27:33,962
<i>♪ And the Southern girls
With the way they talk ♪</i>

1473
01:27:33,962 --> 01:27:37,465
<i>♪ They knock me out when I'm down there ♪</i>

1474
01:27:38,299 --> 01:27:42,929
At that time, you have some
of the most culturally-relevant music

1475
01:27:42,929 --> 01:27:44,055
in American History.

1476
01:27:44,597 --> 01:27:48,268
Songs about the struggle for civil rights,
around identity,

1477
01:27:48,268 --> 01:27:49,936
around political freedoms.

1478
01:27:49,936 --> 01:27:54,774
And their image was as far as you could be
from the changes in the culture.

1479
01:27:54,774 --> 01:27:59,279
<i>♪ I wish
they all could be California girls ♪</i>

1480
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:03,116
<i>♪ Wish they all could be California ♪</i>

1481
01:28:03,116 --> 01:28:10,206
<i>♪ I wish
they all could be California girls ♪</i>

1482
01:28:11,958 --> 01:28:13,293
And then there's Dennis.

1483
01:28:14,336 --> 01:28:17,047
Hi. My name is Dennis Wilson.

1484
01:28:17,589 --> 01:28:19,174
I make rock-and-roll records.

1485
01:28:23,011 --> 01:28:26,097
He became more of
a quintessential '60s LA rock guy.

1486
01:28:26,097 --> 01:28:30,894
<i>♪ Oh, hello, Mr. Soul
I dropped by to pick up a reason ♪</i>

1487
01:28:30,894 --> 01:28:32,812
Dennis was part of the scene.

1488
01:28:32,812 --> 01:28:35,982
He was part of the Laurel Canyon world.

1489
01:28:35,982 --> 01:28:38,693
Part of the counter-cultural world
of the Sunset Strip.

1490
01:28:39,819 --> 01:28:41,488
He was just a wild person.

1491
01:28:42,405 --> 01:28:44,240
Interestingly enough, though,

1492
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:49,079
he is actually the one who got us
interested in things like meditation.

1493
01:28:49,704 --> 01:28:51,956
Even if he was drunk,
he'd say, "Let's meditate."

1494
01:28:56,002 --> 01:29:00,548
One afternoon, Dennis picked up a couple
of hitchhikers on Sunset Boulevard,

1495
01:29:01,091 --> 01:29:02,175
and he took them home.

1496
01:29:02,801 --> 01:29:07,263
{\an8}He told the girls he had a guru,
which was Maharishi,

1497
01:29:07,263 --> 01:29:09,849
{\an8}who had taught all of us how to meditate.

1498
01:29:10,684 --> 01:29:12,769
And then they said, "Well, we have a guru.

1499
01:29:15,772 --> 01:29:17,190
His name is Charlie Manson."

1500
01:29:20,151 --> 01:29:21,569
I only met the guy once,

1501
01:29:22,654 --> 01:29:23,905
and that was enough for me.

1502
01:29:26,282 --> 01:29:28,868
Manson was actually
an aspiring songwriter.

1503
01:29:29,494 --> 01:29:32,247
So, Dennis and Charlie
started to write together.

1504
01:29:33,123 --> 01:29:37,544
And at that time, The Beach Boys released
a Charles Manson song as a B-side,

1505
01:29:38,670 --> 01:29:39,921
"Never Learn Not To Love."

1506
01:29:41,589 --> 01:29:43,591
There's lots of ways to talk about Manson,

1507
01:29:43,591 --> 01:29:46,720
and one of them is that he's still part
of the California dream.

1508
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,722
He wanted the dream.
He wanted the Hollywood dream.

1509
01:29:48,722 --> 01:29:49,889
He wanted to be a rock star.

1510
01:29:49,889 --> 01:29:53,143
He wanted to go through Dennis
to get to Terry Melcher.

1511
01:29:54,477 --> 01:29:57,897
Dennis introduced Manson
to Terry Melcher.

1512
01:29:59,232 --> 01:30:01,317
But he was turned down by Terry.

1513
01:30:01,317 --> 01:30:04,404
And what happened next, happened next.

1514
01:30:04,404 --> 01:30:06,906
<i>In a scene described
by one investigator</i>

1515
01:30:06,906 --> 01:30:08,950
{\an8}<i>as reminiscent of a weird religious rite,</i>

1516
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:12,829
{\an8}<i>five persons, including actress
Sharon Tate, were found dead.</i>

1517
01:30:13,621 --> 01:30:18,001
Manson went to Terry's house
that he used to rent, but Terry had moved.

1518
01:30:19,169 --> 01:30:21,379
That's where he had those people killed.

1519
01:30:22,088 --> 01:30:23,340
It was just awful.

1520
01:30:24,632 --> 01:30:27,302
And I think it weighed
upon Dennis pretty heavily,

1521
01:30:28,303 --> 01:30:32,807
because he had a hand
in introducing him to our world.

1522
01:30:35,518 --> 01:30:37,520
He's always felt bad about it
ever since.

1523
01:30:38,063 --> 01:30:39,314
It wasn't his fault.

1524
01:30:42,275 --> 01:30:46,946
We were in a rough patch,
and Murry must have thought it was over.

1525
01:30:48,573 --> 01:30:50,575
Murry was the publisher, remember?

1526
01:30:50,575 --> 01:30:52,994
He actually took over
the publishing catalog.

1527
01:30:53,620 --> 01:30:58,458
He, at one time, told us
he was gonna sell us back the publishing,

1528
01:30:58,458 --> 01:31:01,378
but he didn't.

1529
01:31:04,172 --> 01:31:08,176
Brian got a call,
and his father said, "I sold the catalog."

1530
01:31:09,219 --> 01:31:14,224
And Brian went, "You sold my songs?
How could you do that to me?"

1531
01:31:15,392 --> 01:31:17,894
Brian was real, real hurt.

1532
01:31:18,478 --> 01:31:20,063
It was very hard for him.

1533
01:31:21,606 --> 01:31:25,443
Murry just thought,
"The guys are gonna go so far for so long,

1534
01:31:25,443 --> 01:31:28,488
and then they're gonna die off,
just like all these other artists.

1535
01:31:28,488 --> 01:31:30,031
So I might as well cash in."

1536
01:31:33,535 --> 01:31:38,123
I wrote the words to many songs
Murry did not credit me on.

1537
01:31:39,541 --> 01:31:42,043
So I got cheated by my uncle.

1538
01:31:42,544 --> 01:31:45,046
But my cousin was going
through mental issues,

1539
01:31:45,046 --> 01:31:47,632
and he had no control over his father.

1540
01:31:49,050 --> 01:31:52,220
And, so... [stammers] What can you do?

1541
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,682
Brian was a half owner with Murry.

1542
01:31:55,682 --> 01:31:58,476
And what are you gonna do?
Go sue your own father?

1543
01:31:58,476 --> 01:32:00,395
No. He wasn't gonna do that.

1544
01:32:01,187 --> 01:32:06,359
It really hurt him, and I don't think he
got out of bed for three days after that.

1545
01:32:11,239 --> 01:32:13,241
There were reflashes of LSD.

1546
01:32:13,241 --> 01:32:16,411
It was said I'm insecure.
I can't face this. I can't do this.

1547
01:32:16,411 --> 01:32:17,912
I'm gonna hide in my bedroom.

1548
01:32:18,705 --> 01:32:20,790
You know, Brian, he was troubled.

1549
01:32:22,751 --> 01:32:25,920
The guys would all be there,
and he says, "I'm just gonna stay in bed."

1550
01:32:27,297 --> 01:32:30,300
While we were recording
at his home in Beverly Hills,

1551
01:32:30,300 --> 01:32:34,346
he was reluctant
to come down and participate.

1552
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:42,562
I would go to his house daily
and beg, "What can I do to help you?"

1553
01:32:43,229 --> 01:32:44,564
For-- Forget recording.

1554
01:32:45,148 --> 01:32:48,318
I'd give up everything
just as long as my brother would be okay.

1555
01:32:50,278 --> 01:32:53,782
It was very painful at times
to see Brian go through that.

1556
01:32:54,991 --> 01:32:56,201
And it was at that point

1557
01:32:56,201 --> 01:32:59,746
that Brian asked me
to become more involved in the production.

1558
01:33:02,874 --> 01:33:04,793
Carl was Brian's protégée really.

1559
01:33:06,044 --> 01:33:09,089
And after all those years
attending the Wrecking Crew sessions,

1560
01:33:09,798 --> 01:33:10,965
Carl was ready for it.

1561
01:33:10,965 --> 01:33:14,135
<i>Two. One, two, three. Go.</i>
And I, of course, had led the band

1562
01:33:14,135 --> 01:33:16,137
from when he stopped touring back in '64.

1563
01:33:16,137 --> 01:33:18,098
So, I think it was kind of natural.

1564
01:33:18,765 --> 01:33:21,768
<i>♪ This is the way ♪</i>

1565
01:33:22,811 --> 01:33:25,063
<i>♪ I always dreamed it would be ♪</i>

1566
01:33:25,980 --> 01:33:28,316
<i>♪ The way that it is ♪</i>

1567
01:33:28,316 --> 01:33:32,112
<i>♪ Oh, when you are holding me ♪</i>

1568
01:33:33,196 --> 01:33:34,989
When Brian stopped producing,

1569
01:33:34,989 --> 01:33:40,078
it opened the door to more
of a democratic process in the studio.

1570
01:33:40,662 --> 01:33:47,544
<i>♪ I can hear music ♪</i>

1571
01:33:48,294 --> 01:33:50,088
You've got Dennis writing songs.

1572
01:33:50,088 --> 01:33:52,841
Bruce Johnston producing.
Al Jardine producing.

1573
01:33:52,841 --> 01:33:55,468
Of course,
I wrote many of those songs as well.

1574
01:33:55,468 --> 01:33:58,638
<i>♪ I can hear music ♪</i>

1575
01:33:59,222 --> 01:34:02,892
<i>♪ Sweet, sweet music ♪</i>

1576
01:34:02,892 --> 01:34:06,521
<i>♪ Whenever you touch me, baby ♪</i>

1577
01:34:07,022 --> 01:34:09,232
<i>♪ Whenever you're near ♪</i>

1578
01:34:11,943 --> 01:34:17,782
But, of all of us, Dennis's music
began to evolve really quite amazingly.

1579
01:34:21,828 --> 01:34:25,415
"Forever" was one of the great pieces
that Dennis created.

1580
01:34:26,082 --> 01:34:29,419
It just blew--
I mean, it just blew us away.

1581
01:34:30,712 --> 01:34:36,509
<i>♪ If every word I said
could make you laugh ♪</i>

1582
01:34:36,509 --> 01:34:42,307
- <i>♪ I'd talk forever ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Together, my love ♪</i>

1583
01:34:44,184 --> 01:34:47,604
<i>♪ I ask the sky just what we had ♪</i>

1584
01:34:48,146 --> 01:34:52,484
<i>♪ Mmm
It shone forever ♪</i>

1585
01:34:52,484 --> 01:34:54,986
Dennis had all this hidden talent.

1586
01:34:55,653 --> 01:34:56,696
I used to watch him and go,

1587
01:34:56,696 --> 01:34:59,074
"God. I didn't know
he could play the piano like that."

1588
01:34:59,741 --> 01:35:00,784
He kinda hid that.

1589
01:35:01,368 --> 01:35:03,787
I think it was very hard for him
growing up.

1590
01:35:03,787 --> 01:35:07,707
He would be behind Brian
and try to match up to him musically.

1591
01:35:08,333 --> 01:35:11,419
But as Dennis got older,
he felt comfortable enough

1592
01:35:11,419 --> 01:35:14,631
to start bringing out, you know,
who he was musically.

1593
01:35:17,509 --> 01:35:22,347
<i>♪ I've been so happy loving you ♪</i>

1594
01:35:26,476 --> 01:35:29,729
You listen
to those late-'60s records and early-'70s,

1595
01:35:29,729 --> 01:35:31,272
they sound like a different band.

1596
01:35:32,440 --> 01:35:35,443
And I do think maybe that's part of why
they weren't as popular,

1597
01:35:35,443 --> 01:35:37,153
is people didn't know
what to do with them.

1598
01:35:37,153 --> 01:35:43,952
<i>♪ So hard to answer future's riddle
when ahead is seeming so far behind ♪</i>

1599
01:35:43,952 --> 01:35:47,872
The Beach Boys as a sound
was so cemented on those early records.

1600
01:35:48,415 --> 01:35:50,709
It's almost like boy bands or kid actors

1601
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:54,295
who can't shake
that first period of success.

1602
01:35:55,296 --> 01:35:56,798
It haunted them,

1603
01:35:56,798 --> 01:36:00,760
because your sense of self
starts circulating with that artifice.

1604
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,806
<i>♪ But I hit hard at the battle
that's confronting me, yeah ♪</i>

1605
01:36:04,806 --> 01:36:07,684
My sense of their career
has always been,

1606
01:36:07,684 --> 01:36:11,771
"Well, we needed that to become
who we are, but who are we really?

1607
01:36:11,771 --> 01:36:13,231
Who are we as artists?"

1608
01:36:13,231 --> 01:36:15,400
And I don't think that struggle
ever left them.

1609
01:36:16,568 --> 01:36:19,571
<i>♪ Long promised road ♪</i>

1610
01:36:19,571 --> 01:36:21,906
We thought
the songs sounded great.

1611
01:36:22,490 --> 01:36:24,159
The public didn't think so.

1612
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:27,829
We were down like $5,000 a night
for a gig. Can you believe that?

1613
01:36:28,538 --> 01:36:29,998
We were just slugging it out.

1614
01:36:29,998 --> 01:36:32,375
Doing what he had to do to survive.

1615
01:36:32,375 --> 01:36:35,628
<i>♪ Long promised road ♪</i>

1616
01:36:36,463 --> 01:36:37,964
We were no longer Beach Boys.

1617
01:36:38,673 --> 01:36:39,841
We were beach men.

1618
01:36:40,425 --> 01:36:42,218
In fact, we even tried to change the name.

1619
01:36:42,218 --> 01:36:44,429
I said, "Let's call ourselves 'Beach.'"

1620
01:36:47,223 --> 01:36:49,642
That would never work,
but Al was right.

1621
01:36:50,393 --> 01:36:53,188
The Beach Boys became uncool to listen to.

1622
01:36:55,899 --> 01:36:58,401
We became determined
to reinvent ourselves.

1623
01:37:00,070 --> 01:37:02,322
Let's get out
of this Beach Boys thing, you know?

1624
01:37:03,198 --> 01:37:06,409
<i>♪ Don't go near the water ♪</i>

1625
01:37:07,327 --> 01:37:09,746
<i>♪ Don't you think it's sad? ♪</i>

1626
01:37:09,746 --> 01:37:11,873
That album has "surf" in the title,

1627
01:37:11,873 --> 01:37:15,293
but <i>Surf's Up</i> is not about the surf
being up and everything's being good.

1628
01:37:15,293 --> 01:37:18,880
The first song on that record is,
"Don't Go Near the Water."

1629
01:37:19,381 --> 01:37:23,259
<i>♪ Oceans, rivers, lakes and streams ♪</i>

1630
01:37:23,259 --> 01:37:25,637
{\an8}<i>♪ Have all been touched by man ♪</i>

1631
01:37:25,637 --> 01:37:28,056
We felt like
we were doing serious music, you know?

1632
01:37:28,056 --> 01:37:31,267
But, uh, it didn't help sell
the album particularly.

1633
01:37:33,812 --> 01:37:35,647
So we decided we needed a new sound.

1634
01:37:36,189 --> 01:37:40,151
In the past, Brian was the leader,
musically speaking.

1635
01:37:40,151 --> 01:37:43,571
But he didn't show up very much anymore
for the sessions.

1636
01:37:43,571 --> 01:37:47,909
In order to save the group,
sometimes things had to be done,

1637
01:37:47,909 --> 01:37:49,953
like more people getting involved.

1638
01:37:51,705 --> 01:37:56,710
Ricky Fataar and Blondie Chaplin
were in a group called The Flames,

1639
01:37:56,710 --> 01:37:58,420
and we met them in London.

1640
01:37:58,420 --> 01:38:00,505
<i>♪ Here she comes ♪</i>

1641
01:38:01,798 --> 01:38:04,676
<i>♪ Breathing life into my thoughts ♪</i>

1642
01:38:04,676 --> 01:38:07,303
They had this idea
to have me and Blonds join the group,

1643
01:38:07,303 --> 01:38:09,597
{\an8}and I just thought
it was just so ridiculous.

1644
01:38:09,597 --> 01:38:10,974
It just didn't seem possible

1645
01:38:10,974 --> 01:38:14,102
because it seemed
like such a tight-knit family thing.

1646
01:38:14,102 --> 01:38:17,272
And when we first joined the group,
it was weird adjusting.

1647
01:38:18,314 --> 01:38:21,276
<i>♪ Wherever she goes
You know the devil dances ♪</i>

1648
01:38:21,276 --> 01:38:23,778
<i>♪ And the gods lay down in defeat ♪</i>

1649
01:38:23,778 --> 01:38:26,156
Being around them,
when we were working and stuff,

1650
01:38:26,156 --> 01:38:28,324
that was just a lovely experience.

1651
01:38:28,908 --> 01:38:31,536
{\an8}Of course, it wasn't as funky
as what we were used to.

1652
01:38:32,871 --> 01:38:34,414
{\an8}Well, in our way of funky.

1653
01:38:38,543 --> 01:38:42,339
When we got involved,
the music got a little harder.

1654
01:38:47,927 --> 01:38:52,640
For live, we pumped a whole lot more
than they used to.

1655
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,602
And I'm not knocking you guys,
but whatever.

1656
01:38:55,602 --> 01:39:00,732
<i>♪ Mama, I'm tellin' you
as sure as I am standing here ♪</i>

1657
01:39:02,233 --> 01:39:03,985
<i>♪ She's my girl ♪</i>

1658
01:39:03,985 --> 01:39:07,322
<i>♪ Now that's the way I'm keeping it
Now, Mama, dear ♪</i>

1659
01:39:08,156 --> 01:39:10,992
But things weren't going that great.

1660
01:39:11,868 --> 01:39:15,538
It wasn't at the big beach-- I mean,
things had calmed down quite a bit.

1661
01:39:17,540 --> 01:39:18,958
Beach Boys were hurting.

1662
01:39:22,462 --> 01:39:24,297
We were kinda on our last leg.

1663
01:39:25,131 --> 01:39:28,009
We all just felt we needed to get away
and reinvent ourselves.

1664
01:39:28,009 --> 01:39:32,013
And we had never been outside of
the United States in terms of recording.

1665
01:39:32,555 --> 01:39:34,432
And so, we went to Holland.

1666
01:39:35,684 --> 01:39:38,978
We were true to our music,
but we were on a downward spiral.

1667
01:39:40,063 --> 01:39:43,775
They go from being
one of the most globally-known pop artists

1668
01:39:43,775 --> 01:39:45,610
to, some degree, falling off the map.

1669
01:39:46,528 --> 01:39:50,573
There's no thought process
that was governing the group

1670
01:39:50,573 --> 01:39:51,950
that made any sense at all.

1671
01:39:52,867 --> 01:39:55,036
And then Capitol,
unbeknownst to us,

1672
01:39:55,036 --> 01:39:57,789
decides to release
kind of like a big "Best of."

1673
01:39:58,331 --> 01:40:01,334
<i>Twenty of your favorite
original Beach Boys hits are now together</i>

1674
01:40:01,334 --> 01:40:04,045
<i>in a fabulous two-record set,
called</i> Endless Summer<i>.</i>

1675
01:40:04,045 --> 01:40:10,135
<i>♪ Do you love me
Do you, surfer girl ♪</i>

1676
01:40:10,135 --> 01:40:12,679
The songs
were all from the early albums.

1677
01:40:13,471 --> 01:40:15,390
<i>♪ Get her out of my heart ♪</i>

1678
01:40:15,390 --> 01:40:18,143
It represented an era of positivity.

1679
01:40:18,143 --> 01:40:21,312
<i>♪ And she'll have fun, fun, fun
'til her daddy takes the T-bird away ♪</i>

1680
01:40:21,312 --> 01:40:25,025
And <i>Endless Summer</i>
became a number one smash album.

1681
01:40:26,026 --> 01:40:29,779
All of a sudden,
there's a new generation of record buyers.

1682
01:40:29,779 --> 01:40:32,073
So to them, it's all brand-new.

1683
01:40:32,073 --> 01:40:35,660
<i>♪ I wish they all could be
California girls ♪</i>

1684
01:40:35,660 --> 01:40:39,414
It was funny. That image we were
trying to get away from...

1685
01:40:39,414 --> 01:40:40,832
It's what saved us.

1686
01:40:42,625 --> 01:40:44,669
And that reenergized our career.

1687
01:40:45,503 --> 01:40:46,963
We got a second chance.

1688
01:40:46,963 --> 01:40:50,175
<i>♪ If everybody had an ocean... ♪</i>

1689
01:40:50,175 --> 01:40:54,054
You gotta remember,
they've been a touring band forever.

1690
01:40:54,054 --> 01:40:58,224
<i>♪ Then everybody'd be surfin'
Like Californ-I-A ♪</i>

1691
01:40:58,224 --> 01:41:01,644
They're one of the few bands
that could reproduce their sound.

1692
01:41:08,985 --> 01:41:10,820
The Beatles stopped touring,

1693
01:41:10,820 --> 01:41:13,114
largely, in part,
because they couldn't play the stuff live.

1694
01:41:13,114 --> 01:41:18,661
<i>♪ I hear the sound of a gentle word ♪</i>

1695
01:41:19,371 --> 01:41:23,041
I can't imagine pulling off half
the stuff that The Beach Boys recorded.

1696
01:41:25,085 --> 01:41:27,253
And then
we started doing stadiums.

1697
01:41:27,253 --> 01:41:30,090
<i>♪ And after having spent
The day together ♪</i>

1698
01:41:30,090 --> 01:41:33,843
<i>♪ Hold each other close
The whole night through ♪</i>

1699
01:41:35,804 --> 01:41:38,598
And that's when
the 8-to-80 thing started happening.

1700
01:41:39,099 --> 01:41:41,851
We had the eight-year-olds coming,
and the 80-year-olds were coming.

1701
01:41:48,900 --> 01:41:50,318
We benefited by the fact

1702
01:41:50,318 --> 01:41:54,948
that our songs resonate with young people
no matter what generation they're in.

1703
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,202
It's so great to be a part of that,

1704
01:41:59,202 --> 01:42:03,373
and the fact that my cousin Brian and I
got together and wrote some great songs

1705
01:42:03,373 --> 01:42:04,958
that people still like to hear.

1706
01:42:05,875 --> 01:42:10,130
However, because my uncle Murry
sold the publishing,

1707
01:42:10,130 --> 01:42:11,548
we didn't own the songs.

1708
01:42:12,966 --> 01:42:16,302
So he screwed his own sons
and grandchildren.

1709
01:42:22,350 --> 01:42:24,853
At the beginning,
they depended on Murry.

1710
01:42:24,853 --> 01:42:28,064
And if there was no Murry,
there would be no Beach Boys.

1711
01:42:28,815 --> 01:42:33,862
But Murry didn't have the vision to see
what the catalog would bring in.

1712
01:42:34,612 --> 01:42:36,614
The hundreds of millions of dollars.

1713
01:42:37,782 --> 01:42:40,201
You know, and he sold this thing
for, like, 700,000.

1714
01:42:44,205 --> 01:42:48,626
Because Murry did not credit me
on the songs I cowrote with Brian,

1715
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:54,049
the only avenue I thought that I had
to get credit was to file a lawsuit.

1716
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,803
I think that was kinda where we lost it.

1717
01:43:03,641 --> 01:43:07,937
I go, "Wait a minute, guys.
Hold on here. What's the deal?" You know?

1718
01:43:10,398 --> 01:43:15,070
After that,
we sort of got separated a little bit.

1719
01:43:22,827 --> 01:43:25,663
There have been ups and downs
in our relationship...

1720
01:43:30,126 --> 01:43:33,004
and, these days,
we don't really talk much.

1721
01:43:38,718 --> 01:43:42,305
But, you know, if I could,
I'd probably just tell him...

1722
01:43:48,061 --> 01:43:49,145
that I love him.

1723
01:43:52,023 --> 01:43:53,024
And nothing...

1724
01:43:55,151 --> 01:43:57,904
anybody could do could erase that.

1725
01:44:05,203 --> 01:44:10,291
<i>♪ Gotta keep
Those lovin' good vibrations ♪</i>

1726
01:44:10,291 --> 01:44:12,377
<i>♪ A-happenin' with you ♪</i>

1727
01:44:12,961 --> 01:44:17,966
<i>♪ Gotta keep
Those lovin' good vibrations ♪</i>

1728
01:44:17,966 --> 01:44:20,468
<i>♪ A-happenin' with you ♪</i>

1729
01:44:20,468 --> 01:44:25,557
<i>♪ Gotta keep
Those lovin' good vibrations ♪</i>

1730
01:44:25,557 --> 01:44:27,142
<i>♪ A-happenin' with you ♪</i>

1731
01:44:27,767 --> 01:44:31,855
I asked Brian one time,
"Why do you think we succeeded?"

1732
01:44:33,148 --> 01:44:36,651
He said, "Well, I think the music
celebrated the joy of life

1733
01:44:37,736 --> 01:44:39,863
in a real simple way.

1734
01:44:40,572 --> 01:44:43,158
Just a real direct experience
of joyfulness."

1735
01:44:50,665 --> 01:44:54,002
Their music was part
of a widespread desire

1736
01:44:54,002 --> 01:44:57,839
to believe in the possibility
of a California dream,

1737
01:44:58,506 --> 01:45:01,092
even if it doesn't seem to line up
in neat ways.

1738
01:45:09,976 --> 01:45:12,645
A band who's known for surfing
who didn't surf.

1739
01:45:14,022 --> 01:45:16,024
A band that's synonymous with the beach

1740
01:45:16,024 --> 01:45:18,943
that record songs
about staying in your room.

1741
01:45:23,114 --> 01:45:28,745
They represent much more complexity than,
I think, most people give them credit for.

1742
01:45:29,287 --> 01:45:31,289
There's someone with us tonight.

1743
01:45:31,289 --> 01:45:34,542
He's responsible for us being here, period.

1744
01:45:34,542 --> 01:45:36,961
Let's hear it for Brian! Come on!

1745
01:45:36,961 --> 01:45:40,173
They soundtrack
the best parts of life.

1746
01:45:40,757 --> 01:45:43,343
And their sound is one of one.

1747
01:45:44,928 --> 01:45:48,348
But I think none of them would have been
able to shine without each other.

1748
01:45:57,774 --> 01:46:01,569
A lot of people
have a favorite in the group, you know?

1749
01:46:01,569 --> 01:46:04,656
But a group is a group.

1750
01:46:09,953 --> 01:46:12,414
The Beach Boys are a family story,

1751
01:46:14,124 --> 01:46:16,292
not without its ups and downs,

1752
01:46:18,003 --> 01:46:21,006
but the positivity
far outweighs the negativity.

1753
01:46:46,448 --> 01:46:47,615
<i>Welcome!</i>

1754
01:46:47,615 --> 01:46:52,162
{\an8}<i>Welcome all 400,000 of you
on this beautiful day.</i>

1755
01:46:52,162 --> 01:46:57,834
{\an8}<i>We are proud to present
the one and only Beach Boys!</i>

1756
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,173
<i>♪ Oh, d-d-d-d-darlin' ♪</i>

1757
01:47:03,173 --> 01:47:07,552
<i>♪ Ooh, ooh, my darlin', you're so fine ♪</i>

1758
01:47:15,185 --> 01:47:17,187
{\an8}<i>♪ Don't know if words could say ♪</i>

1759
01:47:18,313 --> 01:47:20,565
{\an8}<i>♪ But, darlin', I'll find a way ♪</i>

1760
01:47:21,107 --> 01:47:24,277
{\an8}<i>♪ To let you know what you meant to me ♪</i>

1761
01:47:24,903 --> 01:47:27,906
{\an8}<i>♪ Guess it was meant to be ♪</i>

1762
01:47:27,906 --> 01:47:30,992
{\an8}<i>♪ I hold you in my heart ♪</i>

1763
01:47:31,659 --> 01:47:34,371
{\an8}<i>♪ As life's most precious part ♪</i>

1764
01:47:35,121 --> 01:47:38,208
{\an8}- <i>♪ Oh, darlin' ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Oh, keep dreamin' of darlin' ♪</i>

1765
01:47:38,208 --> 01:47:41,002
{\an8}- <i>♪ I dream about you often, my darlin' ♪</i>
- <i>♪ My darlin', you're so fine ♪</i>

1766
01:47:41,002 --> 01:47:43,880
{\an8}<i>♪ I love the way you soften my life
with your love ♪</i>

1767
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:48,051
{\an8}<i>♪ Your precious love, uh-huh, oh ♪</i>

1768
01:47:50,053 --> 01:47:52,389
<i>♪ I was feelin' like half a man ♪</i>

1769
01:47:53,306 --> 01:47:55,642
<i>♪ Then I couldn't love, but now I can ♪</i>

1770
01:47:56,309 --> 01:47:59,604
<i>♪ You pick me up when I'm feelin' sad ♪</i>

1771
01:47:59,604 --> 01:48:02,649
{\an8}<i>♪ More soul than I ever had ♪</i>

1772
01:48:03,191 --> 01:48:05,402
{\an8}<i>♪ Gonna love you every single night ♪</i>

1773
01:48:06,277 --> 01:48:08,571
<i>♪ 'Cause I think you're too outta sight ♪</i>

1774
01:48:09,864 --> 01:48:13,118
- <i>♪ Oh, oh, darlin' ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Oh, keep dreamin' of darlin' ♪</i>

1775
01:48:13,118 --> 01:48:15,620
<i>♪ I dream about you often
My pretty darlin' ♪</i>

1776
01:48:15,620 --> 01:48:18,748
<i>♪ I love the way you soften my life
With your love ♪</i>

1777
01:48:18,748 --> 01:48:21,835
<i>♪ Your precious love, oh, oh ♪</i>

1778
01:48:24,838 --> 01:48:28,258
{\an8}<i>♪ Every night, oh ♪</i>

1779
01:48:30,051 --> 01:48:33,471
<i>♪ Every night
Oh, darlin' ♪</i>

1780
01:48:34,514 --> 01:48:38,059
<i>♪ Gonna love you every single night
Yes, I will ♪</i>

1781
01:48:38,059 --> 01:48:41,396
<i>♪ 'Cause I think you're too doggone
Outta sight, outta sight ♪</i>

1782
01:48:41,396 --> 01:48:43,356
<i>♪ Yeah, yeah, my darlin' ♪</i>

1783
01:48:43,356 --> 01:48:46,776
{\an8}<i>♪ I dream about you often
My pretty darlin' ♪</i>

1784
01:48:46,776 --> 01:48:49,904
{\an8}<i>♪ I love the way you soften my life
With your love ♪</i>

1785
01:48:49,904 --> 01:48:52,782
<i>♪ Your precious love, oh ♪</i>

1786
01:48:53,324 --> 01:48:55,744
{\an8}<i>♪ Oh ♪</i>

1787
01:48:55,744 --> 01:48:58,830
{\an8}<i>♪ Every night, oh ♪</i>

1788
01:48:58,830 --> 01:49:01,124
{\an8}<i>♪ I keep dreamin' 'bout darlin' ♪</i>

1789
01:49:01,124 --> 01:49:04,336
{\an8}<i>♪ Every night
Oh, darlin' ♪</i>

1790
01:49:09,632 --> 01:49:11,051
Thank you very much.

1791
01:49:12,385 --> 01:49:14,095
Enjoy the fireworks!

1792
01:49:18,725 --> 01:49:19,976
Thank you again.

1793
01:49:28,401 --> 01:49:30,820
<i>♪ Aruba, Jamaica ♪</i>

1794
01:49:30,820 --> 01:49:34,866
<i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you
Bermuda, Bahama ♪</i>

1795
01:49:34,866 --> 01:49:36,951
<i>♪ Come on, pretty mama ♪</i>

1796
01:49:36,951 --> 01:49:41,081
<i>♪ Key Largo, Montego
Baby, why don't we go ♪</i>

1797
01:49:41,081 --> 01:49:47,003
<i>♪ Jamaica
Off the Florida Keys ♪</i>

1798
01:49:48,088 --> 01:49:51,591
<i>♪ There's a place called Kokomo ♪</i>

1799
01:49:52,217 --> 01:49:57,722
<i>♪ That's where you wanna go
To get away from it all ♪</i>

1800
01:50:00,642 --> 01:50:03,978
<i>♪ Bodies in the sand ♪</i>

1801
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:08,316
<i>♪ Tropical drink melting in your hand ♪</i>

1802
01:50:08,858 --> 01:50:15,031
<i>♪ We'll be falling in love
To the rhythm of a steel drum band ♪</i>

1803
01:50:15,031 --> 01:50:16,408
<i>♪ Down in Kokomo ♪</i>

1804
01:50:16,408 --> 01:50:18,493
<i>♪ Aruba, Jamaica ♪</i>

1805
01:50:18,493 --> 01:50:22,622
<i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you
To Bermuda, Bahama ♪</i>

1806
01:50:22,622 --> 01:50:24,666
<i>♪ Come on, pretty mama ♪</i>

1807
01:50:24,666 --> 01:50:26,793
<i>♪ Key Largo
Montego ♪</i>

1808
01:50:26,793 --> 01:50:30,922
- <i>♪ Baby, why don't we go ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you down to Kokomo ♪</i>

1809
01:50:30,922 --> 01:50:35,301
<i>♪ We'll get there fast
And then we'll take it slow ♪</i>

1810
01:50:35,301 --> 01:50:39,764
<i>♪ That's where we wanna go ♪</i>

1811
01:50:39,764 --> 01:50:41,558
<i>♪ Way down in Kokomo ♪</i>

1812
01:50:41,558 --> 01:50:45,562
<i>♪ Martinique
That Montserrat mystique ♪</i>

1813
01:50:46,187 --> 01:50:50,108
<i>♪ We'll put out to sea ♪</i>

1814
01:50:50,108 --> 01:50:53,778
<i>♪ And we'll perfect our chemistry ♪</i>

1815
01:50:54,529 --> 01:50:59,743
<i>♪ By and by we'll defy
A little bit of gravity ♪</i>

1816
01:51:02,829 --> 01:51:06,916
<i>♪ Afternoon delight ♪</i>

1817
01:51:06,916 --> 01:51:10,795
<i>♪ Cocktails and moonlight nights ♪</i>

1818
01:51:10,795 --> 01:51:12,922
<i>♪ That dreamy look in your eye ♪</i>

1819
01:51:12,922 --> 01:51:17,052
<i>♪ Give me a tropical contact high ♪</i>

1820
01:51:17,052 --> 01:51:18,720
<i>♪ Way down in Kokomo ♪</i>

1821
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,722
<i>♪ Aruba, Jamaica ♪</i>

1822
01:51:20,722 --> 01:51:24,851
<i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you
To Bermuda, Bahama ♪</i>

1823
01:51:24,851 --> 01:51:26,895
<i>♪ Come on, pretty mama ♪</i>

1824
01:51:26,895 --> 01:51:29,022
<i>♪ Key Largo
Montego ♪</i>

1825
01:51:29,022 --> 01:51:33,151
- <i>♪ Baby, why don't we go ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you down to Kokomo ♪</i>

1826
01:51:33,151 --> 01:51:37,530
<i>♪ We'll get there fast
And then we'll take it slow ♪</i>

1827
01:51:37,530 --> 01:51:41,951
<i>♪ That's where we wanna go ♪</i>

1828
01:51:41,951 --> 01:51:43,787
<i>♪ Way down in Kokomo ♪</i>

1829
01:51:43,787 --> 01:51:47,749
<i>♪ Port au Prince
I wanna catch a glimpse ♪</i>

1830
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:08,937
<i>♪ Everybody knows ♪</i>

1831
01:52:08,937 --> 01:52:12,691
<i>♪ A little place like Kokomo ♪</i>

1832
01:52:13,316 --> 01:52:18,738
<i>♪ Now if you wanna go
And get away from it all ♪</i>

1833
01:52:19,364 --> 01:52:20,990
<i>♪ Go down to Kokomo ♪</i>

1834
01:52:20,990 --> 01:52:22,951
<i>♪ Aruba, Jamaica ♪</i>

1835
01:52:22,951 --> 01:52:27,038
<i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you
To Bermuda, Bahama ♪</i>

1836
01:52:27,038 --> 01:52:29,124
<i>♪ Come on, pretty mama ♪</i>

1837
01:52:29,124 --> 01:52:31,251
<i>♪ Key Largo
Montego ♪</i>

1838
01:52:31,251 --> 01:52:35,380
- <i>♪ Baby, why don't we go ♪</i>
- <i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you down to Kokomo ♪</i>

1839
01:52:35,380 --> 01:52:39,467
<i>♪ We'll get there fast
And then we'll take it slow ♪</i>

1840
01:52:39,968 --> 01:52:44,222
<i>♪ That's where we wanna go ♪</i>

1841
01:52:44,222 --> 01:52:45,849
<i>♪ Way down in Kokomo ♪</i>

1842
01:52:45,849 --> 01:52:47,809
<i>♪ Aruba, Jamaica ♪</i>

1843
01:52:47,809 --> 01:52:51,938
<i>♪ Ooh, I wanna take you
To Bermuda, Bahama ♪</i>

1844
01:52:51,938 --> 01:52:54,024
<i>♪ Come on, pretty mama ♪</i>

1845
01:52:54,024 --> 01:52:56,276
<i>♪ Key Largo
Montego ♪</i>



