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- [Interviewer] All right.

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Downloaded from
YTS.MX

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If you could just have a
seat right there, please.

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- Is that good?
- Yes.

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Can I get a mic check please?

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Official YIFY movies site:
YTS.MX

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- Check, check. Good?
- Perfect.

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- Bob, you ready?

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- [Bob] Yes.
- Okay.

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- [Interviewer] All
right, sit down interview.

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Take one. Marker.

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So, why don't we start by you telling us

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why you've chosen to do this interview.

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- Great question. I really
don't know. (chuckling)

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I think that I'm doing this interview

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mainly because so much
has happened recently

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and I really don't know the best way

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to divulge that information,

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so I figured why not
try a sit down interview

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and see how that goes?

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- [Interviewer] Well, how do
you think it's gonna work out?

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- Like I said, I don't know,

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but we'll find out soon enough, right?

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- [Interviewer] So it should
be known that you hired me

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to do this interview, correct?

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- Right.

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- [Interviewer] So where
would you choose to start?

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- I've thought about this.

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I think we should start
with the manifesto.

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- [Interviewer] And what is that?

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- Well, it's a tape.

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And it's kind of like

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the other tapes we received but it's...

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Am I allowed to talk
about the other tapes?

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- [Bob] Just make it pretty.

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- Well, it's like the other tapes,

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but it's an actual manifesto.

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And it goes into details

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as to why he created this
whole game where he is...

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How should I say this?

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You watch me on this, Bob.

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It goes into detail as to
why he created this game

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and how he's not just a killer,

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but he is like a chooser

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of those who live and those who die.

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- [Interviewer] So is it
some kind of God complex?

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Do you think that's what it is?

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- We don't know that yet,

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but it's become very evident

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that everything leading up to this point

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has been on purpose.

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That everything down
to the smallest detail

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has been meticulously
thought out well in advance,

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quite possibly years in advance.

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And it's become the most clear

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that the only way this
guy's ever gonna get caught

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is if he chooses to be.

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And based on his manifesto,

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I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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- [Interviewer] And why is that?

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Does he allude to something
like he's not finished?

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- Bob, am I allowed to answer that?

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- [Bob] Thinking about it real
quick. Just answer vaguely.

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- Can you ask that question again please?

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- [Interviewer] Are you insinuating

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his manifesto says that he's not finished?

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(ominous music)

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- He's not even close to being finished.

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(ominous music continues)

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- [Man On The Radio] I treasure
each day that I'm alive.

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I treasure the air that I breathe.

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While so many others take
that same air for granted.

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What would happen if I told someone

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that today would be their last,

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that I would be the one
taking their breath away.

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However, if I were to let them go

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their next day would
always stand as a reminder.

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A reminder to live each day
as though it was your last.

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A reminder of how
precious the great gift is

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that we were given.

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The gift of life.

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(Ominous music fading)

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- Stay there, stay. Oh.

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Clap slate.

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Well, I'm back, unfortunately.

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Turn the camera back
on because as you know,

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some (beeping) has gone down.

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So this is where he was
standing in my house,

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April 4th, 2022, right here.

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Watching me sleep on my bed over there.

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But that's not all that
happened, you know,

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when I saw him standing over
here on the security footage,

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I went to go and check
the security cameras.

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But unfortunately, nothing
recorded after that instant.

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So I was like, that's too coincidental.

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How is that possible that
all that footage disappeared?

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Well, I found out and it's
pretty (beeping) disturbing.

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So this is the email that I got

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from the manufacturer
of my security system

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a few weeks before this guy broke in.

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"Dear Value customer,

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due to recent security updates

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with our cloud-based recording system,

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we are requiring all users to log in.

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Failure to log in

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will result in possible
service interruption

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and/or termination of your
cloud-based subscription.

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We appreciate your cooperation

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and apologize for any inconvenience.

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Please follow the link provided

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to ensure no loss of service."

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Which I did.

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I did what they wanted

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because I paid for this service monthly

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and I didn't wanna lose it.

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So I did exactly what I was
instructed and I logged in.

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The only problem is they
never sent me this email,

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and I know that 'cause I
just checked with them.

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So he sent me this email
and this login link is fake.

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He phished for my username and password

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and I gave it to him.

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But why is that bad?
What can he do with that?

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Well, he can watch my camera
feeds at any given moment.

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He can actually lock and
unlock my front and back door.

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I gave him the keys to my house

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all because I'm a moron.

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Something most of you
already know right now.

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Now, if anybody's watching
this and asking, you know,

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"Why are you conveniently
filming all of a sudden?"

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And I'm like, well, there's a
reason I'm about to show you.

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I haven't said anything yet.

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This is what I found in my closet door.

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Keep in mind, he was standing
right here looking at me,

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and then all the footage
after that doesn't exist.

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However, I found this this morning, look.

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(suspenseful music)

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And at first I didn't know
what it was, obviously.

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And then I was like, there's words on it.

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"Wherever you go, there you are.

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Back on track, you're not that far.

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Away from your goal, don't be distraught.

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The remaining victims of
whom you have sought."

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And then it says, "As the crow flies."

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I'm taking it off.

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(suspenseful music)

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All right, let's open it up.

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Oh, there's a...

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Oh, (beeping) I just noticed this.

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I just turned it over. There's
something on the other side.

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So shortly after I opened the bag

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and pulled out whatever this thing is.

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And as you can see,

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it's made of wood and has a
red ring around the outside.

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Also on the front, it
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a bird and a compass direction.

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So that's when I decided to
take high resolution photos

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and 3D scans to send at
Ramey down in Florida.

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However, that's when I noticed something.

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You may remember in the previous film

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when I found this puzzle in a mailbox

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located in the woods
near the Lightfoot house.

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Well, what I realized

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is that the two clues
share the same shape.

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And not only do they share the same shape,

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they're in fact the exact same size.

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And not to mention

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that they both make a reference to a bird.

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But then there's a compass
direction at the bottom.

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And you can point in that
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but you don't know where to start.

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And that's what's missing
from this whole thing.

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So I'm hoping that
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where the starting point
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Hey, hold on. I'm getting into my car.

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Hold on one second.
- Okay.

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- Okay, so what is it?

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- [Ramey] We received a
suspicious package this morning

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and inside was an audio cassette tape.

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- Is it like the other one?

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- [Ramey] It looks very
similar to the other tape, yes.

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- Hey, let me call you
back when I get home, okay?

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- [Ramey] All right.

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- All right, I'll call you right back.

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- [Ramey] Bye.

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- So this won't make sense to anybody

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unless I back up for a second.

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What I'm about to disclose
wasn't disclosed to me

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until well after my last
documentary release,

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so I'm sorry if this is
confusing in any way.

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So we have to go back

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to when they found Susan
McAllister's body on April 3rd.

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One of the investigators
notice a cassette tape

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sitting in one of the victim's pockets.

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When they pulled it out,

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there was a label on it that
read "Tape number one," okay?

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Now I don't know what's on this tape

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because they never let me hear it.

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However, flash forward to today.

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Another cassette tape arrives
in the mail to the department,

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this time with a label that
reads "Tape number two."

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And now apparently

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they're just so confused
about these mysterious tapes

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that they've resorted to ask
it for my help. (chuckling)

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All right, I got you.

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Can you hear me?

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- [Ramey] Yeah.

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- So, you know, I never heard
what was on the first tape.

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The tape you found on
her. I never heard that.

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- [Ramey] Well, I just
sent it to your email.

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It should be in there.
- All right, I got it.

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I'm recording. Can I play it?

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- Sure, go ahead.
- Okay.

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- [Man On Recording] This is
a test to see your capability.

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If you pass this test,

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you'll be met with another
for further down the road.

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- What the hell was that?

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- [Ramey] I know, right?

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- I gotta play it again.
Hold on one second.

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- [Man On Recording] This is
a test to see your capability.

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If you pass this test,

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you'll be met with another
for further down the road.

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- I don't know. Is that it?

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- [Ramey] Yeah.

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- That's all that was on the first tape?

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- [Ramey] Yeah, that was everything.

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- So what was on the tape you got today?

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- [Ramey] It was the exact
same recording actually.

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- That can't be right, man.

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- [Ramey] Why?

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- You must be missing something.

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There has to be a difference
between the two tapes.

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Why would he present us
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and then label them differently, right?

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I have a question.

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How did you conclude

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that there's no difference
between the two tapes?

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- [Ramey] Well, I listened to them.

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- Wait a minute, man.

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Who analyzed the tapes?

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- [Ramey] Nobody.

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- You're telling me that your conclusion

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that these two tapes are the same

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is because you listened to
them and they sounded similar,

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so they must be the same tape?

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- [Ramey] I don't understand.

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How else would you determine

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if two tapes were different or the same?

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- Oh my gosh, man.

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- [Ramey] What?

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- Oh my gosh.

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- [Ramey] What is it?

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- So to explain this really fast,

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which is something a lot of
people never cared to realize

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is that audio cassette tapes though analog

255
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can still hold data,

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data that can be hidden
within the audio itself.

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And the easiest way to find this data

258
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is by converting the audio
into a digital waveform.

259
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One of these funny looking things,

260
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which allows a computer
to easily spot differences

261
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between two similar recordings.

262
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Listen...

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- [Ramey] Stop laughing at me right now.

264
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- We have to hang up right now,

265
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and you have to mail me those tapes.

266
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I'll sign whatever documents you need,

267
00:11:40.380 --> 00:11:42.680
but you have to send me
those tapes right now.

268
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- [Ramey] I don't understand.

269
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- Well, that's the problem.

270
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You don't understand how
to properly determine

271
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if these two tapes are different.

272
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And that is something I do
know how to do actually.

273
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- [Ramey] I just don't know.

274
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- I just, dude, you gotta trust me.

275
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- [Ramey] When do you want them?

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- Overnight them. I'll
be here to sign for it.

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So considering my deputy
privileges were still active,

278
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the only document that made me sign

279
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was one that held me legally responsible

280
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in the case that the
tapes were lost or stolen

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while in my possession.

282
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So I signed and returned that document.

283
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Then the following morning
was met by a courier

284
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who delivered the mysterious tapes.

285
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So here we are.

286
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I got the package, gotta open it up.

287
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All right.

288
00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:41.933
Wow.

289
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That is blood.

290
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Jesus (beeping) Christ.

291
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The tape on top

292
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is obviously the one
they found on the victim,

293
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judging by the blood on the tape.

294
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And tape number two

295
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is the one that arrived
to the Florida Department

296
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yesterday morning via the mail.

297
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Why are these two tapes in
my garage? Great question.

298
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It's because the Department of Dinosaurs

299
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claims that these two tapes are identical.

300
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And I say no way.

301
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So they were nice enough
to send me the tapes

302
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because I'm gonna try to prove 'em wrong.

303
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I'm gonna go take 'em into
my office, digitize 'em,

304
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and see if the computer
can't spot the difference

305
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between the two, which I think it will.

306
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So that's what we're
gonna go do right now.

307
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We need to cut these cameras. Cut.

308
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(suspenseful music)

309
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- [Man On Recording] This is
a test to see your capability.

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If you pass this test,

311
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you'll be met with another
for further down the road.

312
00:14:05.011 --> 00:14:07.616
This is a test to see your capability.

313
00:14:07.616 --> 00:14:08.988
If you pass this test,

314
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you'll be met with another
for further down the road.

315
00:14:18.033 --> 00:14:20.700
- Okay, so I got some good news.

316
00:14:23.100 --> 00:14:25.800
There is a difference between
these two tapes as I thought.

317
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And thanks to stereo headphones,

318
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I was able to find the
difference almost immediately.

319
00:14:29.970 --> 00:14:32.310
Didn't even need a computer to help me.

320
00:14:32.310 --> 00:14:34.290
So here are the two digitized tapes.

321
00:14:34.290 --> 00:14:37.320
Tape one is on top, tape
two is on the bottom.

322
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Some of you can probably
already see the difference,

323
00:14:39.630 --> 00:14:42.030
but for those who can't, I'll explain.

324
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So these tapes are stereo,

325
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which means each tape consists
of two separate channels,

326
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a left and a right, okay?

327
00:14:49.950 --> 00:14:52.200
Tape one as you can see has
a similar looking signal

328
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on both but stereo channels,

329
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which is typical with stereo audio.

330
00:14:56.790 --> 00:14:59.730
What's not typical is tape number two,

331
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which has two totally
different looking channels.

332
00:15:01.950 --> 00:15:03.690
So real quick before I get too far ahead,

333
00:15:03.690 --> 00:15:05.793
let's just play tape two normally.

334
00:15:06.757 --> 00:15:09.540
- [Man On Recording] This is
a test to see your capability.

335
00:15:09.540 --> 00:15:10.860
If you pass this test,

336
00:15:10.860 --> 00:15:14.013
you'll be met with another
for further down the road.

337
00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.390
- So it sounds fine, right?
Sounds like the first tape.

338
00:15:18.390 --> 00:15:20.160
Except now,

339
00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:22.863
listen what happens when I
turn off the left channel.

340
00:15:27.270 --> 00:15:29.250
Now, some of you might not
even be able to hear this,

341
00:15:29.250 --> 00:15:32.970
but there's a series of low
frequency beeps playing.

342
00:15:32.970 --> 00:15:34.110
So I asked myself what would happen

343
00:15:34.110 --> 00:15:35.790
if I raised that to a common frequency,

344
00:15:35.790 --> 00:15:38.193
something we can all hear, you get this.

345
00:15:39.230 --> 00:15:41.190
(beeping sound)

346
00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:44.640
So my first thought,
sounds like Morse code.

347
00:15:44.640 --> 00:15:45.630
So I thought what would happen

348
00:15:45.630 --> 00:15:48.210
if I dropped it into a free
online Morse translator?

349
00:15:48.210 --> 00:15:50.163
Well, you get this.

350
00:15:52.650 --> 00:15:56.280
Bartow, Florida, under
the Peace River Bridge.

351
00:15:56.280 --> 00:15:58.110
A message written in audio,

352
00:15:58.110 --> 00:16:00.510
hidden on the right
channel of tape number two,

353
00:16:00.510 --> 00:16:03.270
giving us none other than
what I was hoping for.

354
00:16:03.270 --> 00:16:05.583
A location. (sighs)

355
00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:11.560
Looks like I'm going to Florida.

356
00:16:14.180 --> 00:16:16.680
(light music)

357
00:17:19.055 --> 00:17:19.887
So here we are in the house

358
00:17:19.887 --> 00:17:21.660
and you can see it's
still under construction.

359
00:17:21.660 --> 00:17:23.339
That's why I'm gonna be
sleeping in that camper

360
00:17:23.339 --> 00:17:24.270
you saw me hauling in.

361
00:17:24.270 --> 00:17:26.040
But anyway, regardless, you might notice

362
00:17:26.040 --> 00:17:28.349
some of the usual ghost
hunting toys around here,

363
00:17:28.349 --> 00:17:31.830
like the block letters,
keyboard, speaking machines,

364
00:17:31.830 --> 00:17:33.630
it's 'cause they
permanently live here now.

365
00:17:33.630 --> 00:17:36.180
Because, honestly, not much
activity happens anymore

366
00:17:36.180 --> 00:17:37.890
either here or at my personal house.

367
00:17:37.890 --> 00:17:40.050
I figured what better place
for it to live than here.

368
00:17:40.050 --> 00:17:42.330
Just in case something does happen,

369
00:17:42.330 --> 00:17:45.000
the security cameras will
get it on tape and I'll know.

370
00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.540
But I always like to bring
something new when I come down.

371
00:17:48.540 --> 00:17:51.210
I brought a new toy with
me and it's pretty sick.

372
00:17:51.210 --> 00:17:55.080
So this is a still shot
camera with a flash on top.

373
00:17:55.080 --> 00:17:57.570
And over here is a motion sensor.

374
00:17:57.570 --> 00:17:59.220
And you might recognize this motion sensor

375
00:17:59.220 --> 00:18:01.170
from some of the previous movies I did.

376
00:18:01.170 --> 00:18:04.200
You might remember it was
actually set off a few times

377
00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:05.280
in my previous films,

378
00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:08.220
so I figured why not turn
this thing into a trigger?

379
00:18:08.220 --> 00:18:10.800
So I added a simple wireless
modification to the back,

380
00:18:10.800 --> 00:18:12.150
which connects it to the camera,

381
00:18:12.150 --> 00:18:14.178
so that means if anything trips it,

382
00:18:14.178 --> 00:18:16.920
it takes a picture and
sends it to my cloud

383
00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:18.810
and I'll know that something set it off.

384
00:18:18.810 --> 00:18:20.070
Well, anyway, I got a long trip

385
00:18:20.070 --> 00:18:22.890
because I'm still gonna try to
make it down to Bartow today,

386
00:18:22.890 --> 00:18:25.440
which is like a hundred miles.

387
00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.080
So I better get going right now.

388
00:18:28.080 --> 00:18:30.120
So as I made the long trip down to Bartow

389
00:18:30.120 --> 00:18:31.770
to find the Peace River Bridge,

390
00:18:31.770 --> 00:18:34.230
I found myself getting more
and more nervous closer I got

391
00:18:34.230 --> 00:18:36.420
because you have to remember
that up to this point

392
00:18:36.420 --> 00:18:38.400
I hadn't told any authorities
about my discovery

393
00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.110
and I was the only
person besides the killer

394
00:18:40.110 --> 00:18:41.460
who knew about this bridge.

395
00:18:41.460 --> 00:18:43.500
So I'm here at the Peace River Bridge

396
00:18:43.500 --> 00:18:45.540
and at first glance it
looks like a normal bridge,

397
00:18:45.540 --> 00:18:47.460
but apparently there's something abnormal

398
00:18:47.460 --> 00:18:49.113
waiting to be found below it.

399
00:18:50.700 --> 00:18:52.860
So I'm a little scared,
but I drove all this way,

400
00:18:52.860 --> 00:18:55.620
so I'm not about to go home
without looking underneath it.

401
00:18:55.620 --> 00:18:56.453
The only problem is

402
00:18:56.453 --> 00:18:57.960
it looks like the only
way to get down there

403
00:18:57.960 --> 00:18:59.931
is I see a trail over there

404
00:18:59.931 --> 00:19:00.990
and I think that's what
leads down to the bottom.

405
00:19:00.990 --> 00:19:04.833
So I'm gonna take this trail
and see where it leads. Cut.

406
00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:06.960
- [Interviewer] When you went down there,

407
00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:09.363
what did you think you'd
find below the bridge?

408
00:19:10.830 --> 00:19:14.133
- Honestly, I had no idea
what I was gonna find.

409
00:19:15.330 --> 00:19:17.280
If I was even gonna find
anything at all, to be honest.

410
00:19:17.280 --> 00:19:20.580
I just knew that it was
my job to keep filming

411
00:19:20.580 --> 00:19:23.280
in the case that I did find something.

412
00:19:23.280 --> 00:19:26.130
So I followed the trail
down to below the bridge,

413
00:19:26.130 --> 00:19:27.180
and when I got there,

414
00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:29.640
I immediately started
looking around for, you know,

415
00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.400
anything that might be
outta place or abnormal.

416
00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:33.233
But the problem was

417
00:19:33.233 --> 00:19:36.630
that it was just actually
such a large area to search.

418
00:19:36.630 --> 00:19:38.190
I never expected that whatever it was

419
00:19:38.190 --> 00:19:39.540
that I was supposed to be looking for

420
00:19:39.540 --> 00:19:42.210
would be so hard to find.

421
00:19:42.210 --> 00:19:44.400
And I was down there for over an hour

422
00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:46.590
before I decided to finally give up.

423
00:19:46.590 --> 00:19:47.700
You know, it just became clear

424
00:19:47.700 --> 00:19:49.410
that I wasn't gonna find anything.

425
00:19:49.410 --> 00:19:51.510
So I started looking for the trail

426
00:19:51.510 --> 00:19:53.490
that would lead me back to my truck,

427
00:19:53.490 --> 00:19:55.109
and as fate would have it,

428
00:19:55.109 --> 00:19:59.403
just as I was starting to
quit, that's when I saw it.

429
00:20:04.539 --> 00:20:06.872
So I just spotted something.

430
00:20:17.696 --> 00:20:18.930
I think I know what this is, actually.

431
00:20:18.930 --> 00:20:19.763
This...

432
00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:27.663
I gotta go back to my car and get it,

433
00:20:28.620 --> 00:20:30.220
but I think I know what this is.

434
00:20:33.090 --> 00:20:33.923
Yep.

435
00:20:35.460 --> 00:20:40.460
So I got this outta my car
and I'm gonna see if it fits.

436
00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:43.080
So as you can see,
there's an arrow on this.

437
00:20:43.080 --> 00:20:45.900
There's an arrow on
this thing I just found.

438
00:20:45.900 --> 00:20:48.030
So when I align the arrows,

439
00:20:48.030 --> 00:20:50.160
they sink up and point in that direction,

440
00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:51.960
which according to my compass on my phone

441
00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.020
is exactly 359 degrees,

442
00:20:55.020 --> 00:20:59.523
so there's something
off in that direction.

443
00:21:01.072 --> 00:21:04.072
(suspenseful music)

444
00:21:14.910 --> 00:21:18.690
Well, I just found
something quite interesting.

445
00:21:18.690 --> 00:21:20.160
Yeah, let me explain.

446
00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:23.013
So I'm looking at a digital
map here on my computer.

447
00:21:24.060 --> 00:21:25.800
And when I plotted a line

448
00:21:25.800 --> 00:21:28.500
from the location under the bridge today

449
00:21:28.500 --> 00:21:32.880
in the direction of
359.31, when I draw a line,

450
00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:37.880
it goes right through this
house, right through it.

451
00:21:38.310 --> 00:21:41.910
That's too coincidental,
so it means something.

452
00:21:41.910 --> 00:21:44.450
What? I have no idea, but...

453
00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:52.383
I have no idea what I was about to say.

454
00:21:56.910 --> 00:21:58.170
I can't think anymore,

455
00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:01.140
so I am gonna start drinking some beer,

456
00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:03.947
go to bed. (laughing)

457
00:22:06.899 --> 00:22:09.899
(suspenseful music)

458
00:22:19.225 --> 00:22:21.892
(ominous music)

459
00:22:38.460 --> 00:22:47.703
(camera shutters)

460
00:22:51.592 --> 00:22:54.425
(phone vibrating)

461
00:23:13.677 --> 00:23:18.150
So something just
tripped the camera inside

462
00:23:18.150 --> 00:23:19.650
and it snapped a picture in my phone.

463
00:23:19.650 --> 00:23:21.453
Just woke me up to let me know.

464
00:23:24.090 --> 00:23:25.790
Could be a false alarm, but...

465
00:23:33.990 --> 00:23:35.450
I don't see any...

466
00:23:36.390 --> 00:23:41.270
I don't see any lights on
in there but I'm gonna...

467
00:23:43.800 --> 00:23:45.817
I'm gonna go in and check it out.

468
00:23:48.402 --> 00:23:50.985
Oh, (beeping).

469
00:23:55.744 --> 00:24:00.744
(cicadas buzzing)
(suspenseful music)

470
00:24:20.211 --> 00:24:23.044
(door screeching)

471
00:24:34.491 --> 00:24:37.491
(suspenseful music)

472
00:25:10.069 --> 00:25:12.902
(camera shutters)

473
00:25:21.555 --> 00:25:24.388
(camera shutters)

474
00:25:31.891 --> 00:25:34.724
(camera shutters)

475
00:25:43.222 --> 00:25:46.055
(camera shutters)

476
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:50.099
- [Jordan] So in regards to the clue

477
00:25:50.099 --> 00:25:52.108
we're trying to help you with,

478
00:25:52.108 --> 00:25:52.941
we're kind of at a standstill.

479
00:25:52.941 --> 00:25:56.040
And everyone on the forum has
kind of either lost interest

480
00:25:56.040 --> 00:25:57.590
or just given up at this point.

481
00:26:01.290 --> 00:26:03.540
- I can't say I didn't see that coming.

482
00:26:03.540 --> 00:26:06.420
So this guy Jordan, who I
met a while back on a forum,

483
00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:08.250
has been trying to help
me solve this riddle

484
00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:09.090
for some time now.

485
00:26:09.090 --> 00:26:09.930
And as you can imagine,

486
00:26:09.930 --> 00:26:13.170
things aren't going so hot right now.

487
00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:15.660
- [Jordan] Regarding
"Where birds like to stay,"

488
00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:17.190
I think that's the real puzzle here.

489
00:26:17.190 --> 00:26:18.630
- I agree. I totally agree.

490
00:26:18.630 --> 00:26:22.530
I think that without it we
can't figure out anything else.

491
00:26:22.530 --> 00:26:23.739
- [Jordan] You know, I just wanted to call

492
00:26:23.739 --> 00:26:24.572
and tell you that even
though everyone else

493
00:26:24.572 --> 00:26:26.887
has kind of given up,
I'm still here for you.

494
00:26:27.870 --> 00:26:29.460
- Well, man, that means
a lot. I appreciate it.

495
00:26:29.460 --> 00:26:31.410
I mean, it's just me and you now, so...

496
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.700
Hey, Jordan, I'm sorry I have to do this,

497
00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:40.170
but do you mind if I call you right back?

498
00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:41.070
- [Jordan] No, not at all.

499
00:26:41.070 --> 00:26:42.630
- Alright, cool man.
- All right.

500
00:26:42.630 --> 00:26:43.823
- All right, see you.
- See you.

501
00:26:44.904 --> 00:26:46.089
(phone ringing)

502
00:26:46.089 --> 00:26:47.011
- [Ramey] Yeah.

503
00:26:47.011 --> 00:26:48.743
- Hey, Ramey, can you hear me?

504
00:26:48.743 --> 00:26:49.576
- [Ramey] Yeah.

505
00:26:49.576 --> 00:26:50.919
- So what happened?

506
00:26:50.919 --> 00:26:52.587
- [Ramey] Are you still
in Florida by chance?

507
00:26:52.587 --> 00:26:55.998
- No, I had to come back home
for something. What's up?

508
00:26:55.998 --> 00:26:57.803
- [Ramey] So we got another
clue in the mail this morning.

509
00:26:59.524 --> 00:27:00.511
- Okay.

510
00:27:00.511 --> 00:27:01.720
- [Ramey] It's an index card,

511
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:05.467
and at the top it says
"Cipher is now numbers."

512
00:27:05.467 --> 00:27:07.784
- "Cipher is now numbers?"

513
00:27:07.784 --> 00:27:11.796
- [Ramey] Yeah. You got
any idea what that means?

514
00:27:11.796 --> 00:27:13.650
- I mean, I can't be for
certain without seeing it.

515
00:27:13.650 --> 00:27:15.674
Could you send me a copy of the note?

516
00:27:15.674 --> 00:27:17.816
- [Ramey] I already sent it to your inbox.

517
00:27:17.816 --> 00:27:19.350
- All right. I'll call you
back once I take a look at it.

518
00:27:19.350 --> 00:27:20.183
- [Ramey] Cool.

519
00:27:20.183 --> 00:27:21.440
- All right, see ya.
- Bye.

520
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.500
- So here we are in front
of my computer again,

521
00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:27.990
and here's the new note
they got this morning.

522
00:27:27.990 --> 00:27:30.360
And it says "Cipher is now numbers."

523
00:27:30.360 --> 00:27:31.193
And as you can see

524
00:27:31.193 --> 00:27:33.240
there are a bunch of
numbers at the bottom here.

525
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.820
Now, I'm no genius, but up to this point,

526
00:27:35.820 --> 00:27:38.730
we've only been presented
with one kind of cipher.

527
00:27:38.730 --> 00:27:41.760
And that was this thing
that I got a long time ago

528
00:27:41.760 --> 00:27:43.230
that ultimately led to the discovery

529
00:27:43.230 --> 00:27:44.340
of Susan Forrester's body.

530
00:27:44.340 --> 00:27:47.400
So I figured simply outta curiosity,

531
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.290
what would happen if I
plugged these numbers

532
00:27:49.290 --> 00:27:50.463
into that cipher?

533
00:27:51.360 --> 00:27:56.360
Well, you get the following
message, "You have mail."

534
00:27:57.120 --> 00:27:59.790
So my immediate reaction was
to go out and check my mailbox

535
00:27:59.790 --> 00:28:00.900
because this guy's been known

536
00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:02.760
to leave me gifts from time to time.

537
00:28:02.760 --> 00:28:04.470
However, my mailbox was empty,

538
00:28:04.470 --> 00:28:06.090
so I started to wrap my head around it.

539
00:28:06.090 --> 00:28:09.453
What else do I know of
that's mail related?

540
00:28:10.350 --> 00:28:11.403
And then it hit me.

541
00:28:13.770 --> 00:28:14.820
Hey, can you hear me?

542
00:28:15.840 --> 00:28:17.993
So I have a theory as to what this means.

543
00:28:20.224 --> 00:28:23.224
(suspenseful music)

544
00:29:16.747 --> 00:29:18.210
Hey, so I found something.

545
00:29:18.210 --> 00:29:19.770
- [Ramey] What?

546
00:29:19.770 --> 00:29:22.260
- It's another block of wood,
kinda like the other one.

547
00:29:22.260 --> 00:29:24.480
It's got a bird arrow
and a compass direction,

548
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.183
except for the outside edge
is green instead of red.

549
00:29:28.205 --> 00:29:30.020
- [Ramey] Okay. Is that it?

550
00:29:30.020 --> 00:29:33.330
- No, on the back, there are coordinates

551
00:29:33.330 --> 00:29:34.647
and it says "Go alone."

552
00:29:35.784 --> 00:29:36.850
- [Ramey] Do you know
where the coordinates lead?

553
00:29:36.850 --> 00:29:38.675
- Yeah, I looked it up.

554
00:29:38.675 --> 00:29:39.508
It's some abandoned development

555
00:29:39.508 --> 00:29:40.440
outside of Palm Bay, Florida.

556
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.480
It's like 120 miles away from here.

557
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.180
It's out in the middle of nowhere.

558
00:29:45.100 --> 00:29:45.983
- [Ramey] That sounds kind of dangerous.

559
00:29:47.068 --> 00:29:48.205
Please tell me you're not thinking

560
00:29:48.205 --> 00:29:49.260
of going out there by yourself.

561
00:29:49.260 --> 00:29:51.570
- That's why I'm calling, man.
I need you to do me a favor.

562
00:29:51.570 --> 00:29:55.050
Listen, if I don't call
you by 9:00 tonight,

563
00:29:55.050 --> 00:29:56.760
can you send somebody
out there looking for me?

564
00:29:56.760 --> 00:29:58.479
- [Ramey] I don't like this.

565
00:29:58.479 --> 00:30:00.440
You shouldn't be going out there
by yourself man, I'm sorry.

566
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.990
- Listen, please just do
what I ask. Can you do it?

567
00:30:04.747 --> 00:30:07.747
(suspenseful music)

568
00:30:24.870 --> 00:30:26.520
So here, I'm in Palm Bay,

569
00:30:26.520 --> 00:30:29.310
and I'm following the
coordinates on the GPS

570
00:30:29.310 --> 00:30:32.370
which as you can see is taking
me in the middle of nowhere.

571
00:30:32.370 --> 00:30:35.790
A little scary because the
further I go, the deeper I get.

572
00:30:35.790 --> 00:30:39.240
And it's a little
disconcerting, a little scary.

573
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.610
I don't know what's waiting
for me at this spot,

574
00:30:41.610 --> 00:30:44.580
but I ain't gonna dilly
dally as soon as I find,

575
00:30:44.580 --> 00:30:46.440
I'm getting (beeping) the outta here.

576
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:49.380
But anyway, GPS says I'm
coming up on it soon,

577
00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:51.280
so I gotta get the cameras ready. Cut.

578
00:30:54.516 --> 00:30:57.516
(suspenseful music)

579
00:31:24.521 --> 00:31:27.354
All right, we're pulling up on it.

580
00:31:29.009 --> 00:31:32.842
(suspenseful music continues)

581
00:32:08.634 --> 00:32:11.301
(keys clanking)

582
00:32:16.588 --> 00:32:18.565
I see something.

583
00:32:18.565 --> 00:32:22.398
(suspenseful music continues)

584
00:32:53.790 --> 00:32:57.060
So I found what he wanted me
to find on the ground here

585
00:32:57.060 --> 00:32:59.820
and the little placard fit right inside

586
00:32:59.820 --> 00:33:03.570
and it points right in that
direction through my truck.

587
00:33:03.570 --> 00:33:06.423
Don't know what that means,
but it means something.

588
00:33:07.560 --> 00:33:09.840
And I'm so far out here, I'm
starting to get the jitters

589
00:33:09.840 --> 00:33:12.150
because I feel like somebody's
watching me right now

590
00:33:12.150 --> 00:33:15.060
and it is unsettling.

591
00:33:15.060 --> 00:33:17.280
'Cause if I were to yell or do anything,

592
00:33:17.280 --> 00:33:18.780
nobody would even know it.

593
00:33:18.780 --> 00:33:21.933
So I'm gonna get in my truck
right now and I'm gonna go.

594
00:33:24.360 --> 00:33:26.133
Boy, it's scary out here, man.

595
00:33:30.630 --> 00:33:33.570
This is creepy. Get outta here.

596
00:33:57.643 --> 00:34:00.643
(suspenseful music)

597
00:35:25.190 --> 00:35:27.857
(phone ringing)

598
00:35:35.643 --> 00:35:38.643
(suspenseful music)

599
00:37:22.896 --> 00:37:27.313
- [System] Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.

600
00:37:34.935 --> 00:37:38.435
Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.

601
00:37:45.115 --> 00:37:48.615
Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.

602
00:37:59.023 --> 00:38:01.856
(camera shutters)

603
00:38:19.128 --> 00:38:21.961
(camera shutters)

604
00:38:25.604 --> 00:38:29.104
Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.

605
00:38:44.097 --> 00:38:47.097
(suspenseful music)

606
00:39:27.389 --> 00:39:29.045
(phone ringing)

607
00:39:29.045 --> 00:39:30.120
- [Joe's Gun Range Staff] Joe's Gun Range.

608
00:39:30.120 --> 00:39:31.560
- Hi, good evening.

609
00:39:31.560 --> 00:39:33.983
I just wanna see how late
you guys are open today?

610
00:39:38.327 --> 00:39:40.744
(gun firing)

611
00:40:05.151 --> 00:40:07.568
(gun firing)

612
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.222
- [Man] Cease fire.

613
00:40:12.444 --> 00:40:14.444
Cease fire on the range.

614
00:40:15.415 --> 00:40:18.165
Everyone, put your weapons down.

615
00:40:21.764 --> 00:40:22.847
Who did that?

616
00:40:24.210 --> 00:40:25.043
- That was me.

617
00:40:29.010 --> 00:40:31.350
So something recently crossed my mind

618
00:40:31.350 --> 00:40:33.360
and that's that a lot of
people are gonna think,

619
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:34.770
unless I address it,

620
00:40:34.770 --> 00:40:37.440
that the guy standing
behind me in this picture

621
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.090
is Joseph William Lightfoot.

622
00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:41.460
And if you don't remember who
Joseph William Lightfoot is,

623
00:40:41.460 --> 00:40:43.230
he's the guy I interviewed a long time ago

624
00:40:43.230 --> 00:40:45.030
who's the son of James Lightfoot.

625
00:40:45.030 --> 00:40:47.130
What I never told anybody
is that me and Joe

626
00:40:47.130 --> 00:40:49.110
actually became friends
after that interview

627
00:40:49.110 --> 00:40:50.460
and we've stayed in touch over the years.

628
00:40:50.460 --> 00:40:52.770
So I can assure you, and
you're just gonna trust me,

629
00:40:52.770 --> 00:40:54.210
it's not him.

630
00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:56.550
However, I did recently
decide to give him a call

631
00:40:56.550 --> 00:40:59.100
just to see if there was maybe
some family members of his

632
00:40:59.100 --> 00:41:00.000
that I wasn't aware of.

633
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.133
So this is the conversation that happened.

634
00:41:03.339 --> 00:41:05.316
- [Joseph] You know, I
don't known what family

635
00:41:05.316 --> 00:41:08.715
my dad had before.

636
00:41:08.715 --> 00:41:09.752
- Right.

637
00:41:09.752 --> 00:41:11.628
- [Joseph] Yeah, I remember trying to find

638
00:41:11.628 --> 00:41:14.367
what family my dad, the history.

639
00:41:14.367 --> 00:41:15.435
I mean, it's...

640
00:41:15.435 --> 00:41:16.268
But I couldn't find it.

641
00:41:16.268 --> 00:41:17.490
- Well, I remember you saying once

642
00:41:17.490 --> 00:41:19.620
that your father was in a
previous marriage, correct?

643
00:41:19.620 --> 00:41:22.230
- [Joseph] I think that's right. Yeah.

644
00:41:22.230 --> 00:41:25.320
- Well, do you know if he had
any children in that marriage?

645
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:28.560
So unfortunately, the
crappy audio recorder

646
00:41:28.560 --> 00:41:29.910
that I was using during this interview

647
00:41:29.910 --> 00:41:32.970
decided to cut out right
before he mentioned

648
00:41:32.970 --> 00:41:34.740
a very important detail.

649
00:41:34.740 --> 00:41:37.200
And it was that when he was a kid,

650
00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:40.260
he briefly heard his
mother say that his father,

651
00:41:40.260 --> 00:41:42.420
James Lightfoot or the Lightfoot Killer,

652
00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:45.990
had an adopted son from
a previous marriage.

653
00:41:45.990 --> 00:41:47.040
Now, Joe went on to say

654
00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:48.960
that he wasn't even sure if this is true,

655
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.650
but he did remember hearing it.

656
00:41:51.650 --> 00:41:52.860
And I was like,

657
00:41:52.860 --> 00:41:56.673
well that's a big detail
because of one thing,

658
00:41:58.057 --> 00:42:00.870
"A father can be a
father regardless of law,

659
00:42:00.870 --> 00:42:04.077
regardless of genetics,
regardless of all."

660
00:42:05.310 --> 00:42:08.550
And it just so happens
that an adopted son,

661
00:42:08.550 --> 00:42:13.550
if one exists, fits that
description perfectly.

662
00:42:14.070 --> 00:42:17.433
So I'm definitely interested
to find out more about this.

663
00:42:25.667 --> 00:42:28.620
(phone ringing)
(sighs)

664
00:42:28.620 --> 00:42:29.760
Hey Jordan, I just got your text.

665
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:31.320
So what is it that you want me to look at?

666
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:32.910
- [Jordan] So I sent you a map.

667
00:42:32.910 --> 00:42:34.290
Can you pull it up on
the computer real quick?

668
00:42:34.290 --> 00:42:36.480
- Yeah, I got it open. I'm
looking at it right now.

669
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.928
- [Jordan] Okay, so when you
went to the Peace River Bridge

670
00:42:38.928 --> 00:42:40.568
and placed the engraving in the stone,

671
00:42:40.568 --> 00:42:42.783
when you draw a line in
the direction it indicates

672
00:42:42.783 --> 00:42:45.418
it goes right through the
Lightfoot house, correct?

673
00:42:45.418 --> 00:42:46.882
- That is correct.

674
00:42:46.882 --> 00:42:48.240
- [Jordan] So when you went to Palm Bay

675
00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:49.290
and placed the second engraving,

676
00:42:49.290 --> 00:42:51.574
were you also aware
that if you draw a line

677
00:42:51.574 --> 00:42:53.481
in the direction it indicates,

678
00:42:53.481 --> 00:42:56.960
it too goes right through the house?

679
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:58.524
- Huh?

680
00:42:58.524 --> 00:43:00.150
You know, I kind of suspected
it, but I never confirmed it.

681
00:43:00.150 --> 00:43:03.630
So you're sure the second one
goes through the house too?

682
00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:04.780
- [Jordan] Yes.
- Wow.

683
00:43:05.703 --> 00:43:06.838
- [Jordan] That is correct.

684
00:43:06.838 --> 00:43:08.642
- Any idea what that means?

685
00:43:08.642 --> 00:43:09.744
- [Jordan] Nah, not at the moment,

686
00:43:09.744 --> 00:43:11.782
but I'm not gonna give up on this.

687
00:43:11.782 --> 00:43:14.580
- Well, hey man, just
keep doing your thing.

688
00:43:14.580 --> 00:43:16.020
Just know that I appreciate your help.

689
00:43:16.020 --> 00:43:17.100
- [Jordan] You got it, man.

690
00:43:17.100 --> 00:43:18.722
I'll talk to you soon, all right?

691
00:43:18.722 --> 00:43:20.335
- All right, thanks a lot Jordan.

692
00:43:20.335 --> 00:43:21.420
- [Jordan] No problem.
- All right, same.

693
00:43:21.420 --> 00:43:22.253
- [Jordan] Bye.

694
00:43:26.269 --> 00:43:31.269
- Hmm.

695
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:35.130
- [Ramey] So, what's the plan?

696
00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:36.210
You staying up there for a while longer?

697
00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:37.230
- Yeah, I'm in no hurry

698
00:43:37.230 --> 00:43:38.443
to get back down to Florida right now.

699
00:43:38.443 --> 00:43:40.170
I just can't get it outta my head

700
00:43:40.170 --> 00:43:41.760
how he was standing right behind me.

701
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:45.333
How he somehow knows
everything before I do.

702
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.350
Any luck? Find anything
regarding adoption records?

703
00:43:49.350 --> 00:43:50.633
- [Ramey] Not yet, but I'll keep digging.

704
00:43:51.613 --> 00:43:53.537
You know the orphanage records
from those dates you gave me

705
00:43:54.428 --> 00:43:56.375
still aren't digitized so
it's slowing things down.

706
00:43:56.375 --> 00:43:57.270
- Well, keep me posted if you don't mind.

707
00:43:57.270 --> 00:43:58.560
I really think there's something there.

708
00:43:58.560 --> 00:43:59.970
- [Ramey] All right.

709
00:43:59.970 --> 00:44:01.110
- Well, hey, I'm pulling into my house.

710
00:44:01.110 --> 00:44:02.957
You mind if I call you back later?

711
00:44:02.957 --> 00:44:04.920
- [Ramey] No, go for it.
- All right, cool man.

712
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.360
- All right.
- I'll see you.

713
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:07.503
- See you.
- Bye.

714
00:44:10.437 --> 00:44:13.437
(suspenseful music)

715
00:44:41.580 --> 00:44:44.280
Okay, so this is why I'm
acting weird all of a sudden.

716
00:44:45.180 --> 00:44:46.440
For the past few weeks,

717
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:48.000
I've noticed that every time I come home

718
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.010
my phone gives me this notification.

719
00:44:50.010 --> 00:44:53.520
It says "Unknown device detected," right?

720
00:44:53.520 --> 00:44:55.380
So I just thought it was my phone

721
00:44:55.380 --> 00:44:56.760
getting back on the local network

722
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:58.320
as I pulled into my driveway.

723
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.840
Wrong, because I just
pulled into my driveway

724
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.130
a few minutes ago,

725
00:45:02.130 --> 00:45:03.270
got the same notification

726
00:45:03.270 --> 00:45:05.250
except for this time it
showed the device's name

727
00:45:05.250 --> 00:45:07.530
that's trying to connect my home network.

728
00:45:07.530 --> 00:45:08.880
Are you ready for this?

729
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.033
The device's name is Vehicle Tracker.

730
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.883
So, yeah.

731
00:45:21.373 --> 00:45:24.373
(suspenseful music)

732
00:46:36.348 --> 00:46:39.015
(phone ringing)

733
00:46:40.019 --> 00:46:40.852
- [Ramey] Yeah?

734
00:46:40.852 --> 00:46:42.780
- So I found out how he is
always one step ahead of me.

735
00:46:42.780 --> 00:46:43.613
- [Ramey] How?

736
00:46:44.504 --> 00:46:47.292
- He put a tracking device on my truck.

737
00:46:47.292 --> 00:46:50.400
- [Ramey] Well, how do you
know it's a tracking device?

738
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.618
- Because it literally says
tracking device right on it.

739
00:46:53.618 --> 00:46:55.384
- [Ramey] Wait, he's probably paying

740
00:46:55.384 --> 00:46:57.057
for some service to track you.

741
00:46:57.057 --> 00:46:58.881
Maybe we could trace the credit
card he's using for payment.

742
00:46:58.881 --> 00:46:59.850
- Well, I thought about that, but then,

743
00:46:59.850 --> 00:47:00.900
you know, bear with me.

744
00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:02.490
So he doesn't know I
found this thing, right?

745
00:47:02.490 --> 00:47:04.170
- [Ramey] Okay.
- Okay.

746
00:47:04.170 --> 00:47:06.840
I put it back on my truck,
pretend I never found it,

747
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.150
come back to Florida,
he sees I'm in Florida,

748
00:47:09.150 --> 00:47:11.458
he will make his way
back out to the house.

749
00:47:11.458 --> 00:47:13.110
- [Ramey] Okay, then what?

750
00:47:13.110 --> 00:47:14.360
- Well, then we trap him.

751
00:47:17.368 --> 00:47:18.342
What?

752
00:47:18.342 --> 00:47:20.148
- [Ramey] Listen, you're not a cop, okay?

753
00:47:20.148 --> 00:47:22.050
You shouldn't be planning anything.

754
00:47:22.050 --> 00:47:25.802
You, the civilian, provide us,
the authorities information.

755
00:47:25.802 --> 00:47:27.776
And we, the authorities take proper action

756
00:47:27.776 --> 00:47:28.609
with the investigation.

757
00:47:28.609 --> 00:47:29.550
- Please don't treat me like that.

758
00:47:29.550 --> 00:47:30.450
That hurts coming from you.

759
00:47:30.450 --> 00:47:32.213
- [Ramey] That's not what I'm saying.

760
00:47:32.213 --> 00:47:34.800
I'm saying it's our job and not yours.

761
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.193
- I got news for you. Your
investigation team sucks.

762
00:47:39.237 --> 00:47:40.377
- [Ramey] Are you done?

763
00:47:40.377 --> 00:47:43.268
- No. Are you gonna help
me with this idea or not?

764
00:47:43.268 --> 00:47:45.084
- [Ramey] No. And you
shouldn't be putting yourself

765
00:47:45.084 --> 00:47:46.988
in a dangerous situation like this.

766
00:47:46.988 --> 00:47:48.150
- You know, I should've figured as much.

767
00:47:48.150 --> 00:47:49.110
It makes perfect sense

768
00:47:49.110 --> 00:47:51.300
as to why this case has
been open for over 50 years

769
00:47:51.300 --> 00:47:53.040
because I just handed you
the perfect opportunity

770
00:47:53.040 --> 00:47:54.720
to catch this guy and
you're saying no, right?

771
00:47:54.720 --> 00:47:57.090
So let me put this as kindly as I can.

772
00:47:57.090 --> 00:47:58.680
I don't need your (beeping) help.

773
00:47:58.680 --> 00:48:00.450
So pretend I didn't even ask.

774
00:48:00.450 --> 00:48:01.680
And when I do catch him,

775
00:48:01.680 --> 00:48:03.150
I will let you, the authorities know.

776
00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:03.983
How about that?

777
00:48:03.983 --> 00:48:05.850
So why don't you go (beeping) yourself.

778
00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:09.173
Hello?

779
00:48:11.625 --> 00:48:13.288
Ramey?

780
00:48:13.288 --> 00:48:15.955
(phone beeping)

781
00:48:20.954 --> 00:48:23.954
(suspenseful music)

782
00:49:55.290 --> 00:49:56.550
Check.

783
00:49:56.550 --> 00:49:57.813
All right, audio slate.

784
00:49:58.749 --> 00:50:00.390
(clapping) Clap slate.

785
00:50:00.390 --> 00:50:01.290
All right, this is in case

786
00:50:01.290 --> 00:50:03.490
anybody finds me out
here at the house dead.

787
00:50:05.250 --> 00:50:06.863
Maybe then you'll know what happened.

788
00:50:08.340 --> 00:50:09.750
So anybody who may be wondering

789
00:50:09.750 --> 00:50:11.490
why I've chosen to use myself as bait

790
00:50:11.490 --> 00:50:13.020
to lure an active serial killer

791
00:50:13.020 --> 00:50:16.920
all the way out to the
house, great question.

792
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.070
One, it's 'cause I'm stupid. (chuckling)

793
00:50:20.070 --> 00:50:23.670
And two, it's because up to
this point nobody will help me,

794
00:50:23.670 --> 00:50:25.270
so I'm doing all this by myself.

795
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:28.020
Now I don't know much,

796
00:50:28.020 --> 00:50:30.000
but I do know that this
guy most likely knows

797
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:30.833
I'm here right now

798
00:50:30.833 --> 00:50:33.630
because of the tracking
device he put on my truck.

799
00:50:33.630 --> 00:50:34.770
Which is why I've taken the liberty

800
00:50:34.770 --> 00:50:36.810
of place in motion sensors
all around the property

801
00:50:36.810 --> 00:50:38.460
just in case he does show up,

802
00:50:38.460 --> 00:50:40.590
which will most likely happen at night,

803
00:50:40.590 --> 00:50:42.093
maybe tonight, I don't know.

804
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:44.340
And if he trips one of these sensors,

805
00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:45.840
at least I'll know he is here.

806
00:50:47.010 --> 00:50:48.360
So why would I come all the way down here

807
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.970
and put myself in such
a dangerous situation?

808
00:50:50.970 --> 00:50:52.860
Another great question.

809
00:50:52.860 --> 00:50:54.930
It's because I don't think I have,

810
00:50:54.930 --> 00:50:56.580
I've never mentioned
this before to anybody,

811
00:50:56.580 --> 00:50:59.733
but I don't think he wants to hurt me.

812
00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:02.070
And the reason I think that

813
00:51:02.070 --> 00:51:04.290
is why would you go outta your
way to provide me puzzles,

814
00:51:04.290 --> 00:51:07.683
clues and riddles and just to kill me?

815
00:51:09.330 --> 00:51:10.530
It's 'cause he wouldn't.

816
00:51:11.940 --> 00:51:14.250
I mean, he certainly had
multiple opportunities to do so,

817
00:51:14.250 --> 00:51:16.110
but he chose not to.

818
00:51:16.110 --> 00:51:16.943
Why?

819
00:51:18.300 --> 00:51:20.130
It's because fear can be a useful tool

820
00:51:20.130 --> 00:51:22.730
when you want something
accomplished on your behalf.

821
00:51:23.910 --> 00:51:25.740
Like in this situation,

822
00:51:25.740 --> 00:51:27.890
having me finish what
he started years ago.

823
00:51:31.530 --> 00:51:34.373
And he knows that I'm the best
chance of accomplishing that.

824
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.260
So no, I don't think I've put myself

825
00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:38.510
in a dangerous situation.

826
00:51:42.780 --> 00:51:44.333
I hope I haven't, at least.

827
00:51:46.552 --> 00:51:49.552
(suspenseful music)

828
00:53:28.015 --> 00:53:33.015
So, here I am sitting in
the darkness like an idiot,

829
00:53:36.090 --> 00:53:39.720
waiting for I don't even
know what at this point.

830
00:53:39.720 --> 00:53:40.553
It's so late.

831
00:53:44.097 --> 00:53:46.204
And I've had all this time sitting here

832
00:53:46.204 --> 00:53:48.160
to realize finally

833
00:53:49.980 --> 00:53:51.963
how stupid this whole plan really was.

834
00:53:54.210 --> 00:53:55.773
Oh, my gosh.

835
00:53:56.910 --> 00:53:59.343
I've been sitting here
asking myself, you know,

836
00:54:00.780 --> 00:54:03.120
what was it that I
realistically hoped to achieve

837
00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:04.203
by coming out here?

838
00:54:05.694 --> 00:54:10.694
And the sad truth is I
don't have an answer.

839
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:14.203
And not to mention that, you know,

840
00:54:14.203 --> 00:54:15.630
I can't stop thinking of my kids

841
00:54:15.630 --> 00:54:18.270
who are back home right now with my mom,

842
00:54:18.270 --> 00:54:20.120
and I'm sitting down here doing this.

843
00:54:23.985 --> 00:54:25.837
And I think that's what
makes me feel so stupid.

844
00:54:30.510 --> 00:54:32.210
You know, I've just been really...

845
00:54:33.990 --> 00:54:35.250
You ever get so mad at yourself?

846
00:54:35.250 --> 00:54:36.270
Frustrated with yourself

847
00:54:36.270 --> 00:54:38.213
'cause you just question
your judgment so much.

848
00:54:38.213 --> 00:54:42.330
I've been questioning my
judgment on a daily basis.

849
00:54:42.330 --> 00:54:45.090
I mean, I enticed a serial killer

850
00:54:45.090 --> 00:54:48.630
to come all the way out here
into the middle of nowhere

851
00:54:48.630 --> 00:54:50.963
and thought that could
actually be a good thing.

852
00:54:54.600 --> 00:54:55.593
Stupid.

853
00:54:59.295 --> 00:55:01.128
God, you're so stupid.

854
00:55:02.798 --> 00:55:03.631
Oh, God.

855
00:55:14.561 --> 00:55:18.333
You know, when you make a mistake,

856
00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:22.620
it makes it so much worse when you realize

857
00:55:22.620 --> 00:55:24.720
the only person you can blame is yourself.

858
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:28.639
I made the mistake

859
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.939
of thinking this could
somehow be a good idea.

860
00:55:32.325 --> 00:55:34.440
And as usual, I proved to myself

861
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.563
that I have absolutely
no idea what I'm doing.

862
00:55:39.030 --> 00:55:41.132
And the real fact of the matter is...

863
00:55:41.132 --> 00:55:43.799
(piano playing)

864
00:56:06.189 --> 00:56:10.106
(motion sensor device beeping)

865
00:56:17.823 --> 00:56:21.740
(motion sensor device beeping)

866
00:56:24.282 --> 00:56:28.699
- [System] Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.

867
00:56:41.419 --> 00:56:44.002
(door banging)

868
00:56:51.598 --> 00:56:52.431
- Hello?

869
00:56:59.369 --> 00:57:02.202
(door screeching)

870
00:57:38.860 --> 00:57:39.693
Hello?

871
00:57:46.764 --> 00:57:49.431
(phone ringing)

872
00:58:06.750 --> 00:58:07.583
Hello?

873
00:58:11.460 --> 00:58:12.720
Listen, I know it's you

874
00:58:12.720 --> 00:58:14.573
and I know that you're here right now.

875
00:58:19.170 --> 00:58:20.003
Look, I...

876
00:58:22.183 --> 00:58:24.897
I don't know what it is you want from me

877
00:58:24.897 --> 00:58:27.750
and I don't know why you
keep on following me around,

878
00:58:27.750 --> 00:58:29.340
but if you just tell me what it is

879
00:58:29.340 --> 00:58:32.873
that you want me to do, I would do it.

880
00:58:36.270 --> 00:58:37.103
Hello?

881
00:58:41.340 --> 00:58:43.413
Listen, just say something.

882
00:58:48.005 --> 00:58:48.838
Hello?

883
00:58:51.350 --> 00:58:55.110
(man speaks indistinctly)

884
00:58:55.110 --> 00:58:58.934
What?
(phone drops)

885
00:58:58.934 --> 00:58:59.767
Hello?

886
00:59:01.091 --> 00:59:01.924
Hello?

887
00:59:02.827 --> 00:59:05.494
(phone beeping)

888
00:59:07.929 --> 00:59:10.596
(ominous music)

889
01:01:01.624 --> 01:01:04.054
(phone ringing)

890
01:01:04.054 --> 01:01:04.970
- [Ramey] Yeah.

891
01:01:04.970 --> 01:01:05.803
- Hey, so it's me.

892
01:01:06.736 --> 01:01:08.490
- [Ramey] What's up?
- Just calling to let you know

893
01:01:08.490 --> 01:01:11.013
that he made his way out
to the house last night.

894
01:01:13.315 --> 01:01:14.670
- [Ramey] What happened?

895
01:01:14.670 --> 01:01:17.430
- Well, you missed the perfect opportunity

896
01:01:17.430 --> 01:01:18.430
and you let me down.

897
01:01:19.740 --> 01:01:21.053
I'll talk to you later.
- Hey.

898
01:01:24.150 --> 01:01:24.983
- Bye.

899
01:01:32.366 --> 01:01:35.366
(suspenseful music)

900
01:01:40.157 --> 01:01:42.990
(phone vibrating)

901
01:01:46.714 --> 01:01:47.885
Hello?

902
01:01:47.885 --> 01:01:49.200
- [Jordan] Hey, it's Jordan.

903
01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:50.790
- Hey, man, what's going on?

904
01:01:50.790 --> 01:01:51.623
- [Jordan] Where are you right now?

905
01:01:51.623 --> 01:01:54.090
Are you still in Florida by chance?

906
01:01:54.090 --> 01:01:55.500
- No, I got home a couple days ago.

907
01:01:55.500 --> 01:01:56.333
Wow. What's up?

908
01:01:57.345 --> 01:01:58.290
- [Jordan] Listen, I
don't know how to say this

909
01:01:58.290 --> 01:01:59.460
without getting overly excited,

910
01:01:59.460 --> 01:02:01.810
but I may have just
figured out something huge.

911
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:06.090
- Okay, tell me what it is.

912
01:02:06.090 --> 01:02:08.190
- [Jordan] Are you in front
of your computer by chance?

913
01:02:08.190 --> 01:02:09.540
- No, but I'm heading home right now.

914
01:02:09.540 --> 01:02:11.430
I can be there in five minutes.

915
01:02:11.430 --> 01:02:12.930
Just tell me what's going on.

916
01:02:12.930 --> 01:02:13.980
- [Jordan] Alright, hurry up and get home.

917
01:02:13.980 --> 01:02:15.822
Call me when you're front the computer.

918
01:02:15.822 --> 01:02:17.153
I need you to look at something, okay?

919
01:02:18.090 --> 01:02:20.940
- Okay, I'll be home in five
minutes. I'll call you back.

920
01:02:20.940 --> 01:02:22.293
- All right.
- See ya.

921
01:02:28.927 --> 01:02:30.510
All right, I'm here in
front of my computer,

922
01:02:30.510 --> 01:02:32.785
so what is it that you
wanted me to look at?

923
01:02:32.785 --> 01:02:33.842
- [Jordan] Okay, one of the first nights

924
01:02:33.842 --> 01:02:34.730
you were at the house

925
01:02:34.730 --> 01:02:36.434
and the camera snapped
the picture by itself.

926
01:02:36.434 --> 01:02:37.980
Can you pull up one of those pictures?

927
01:02:37.980 --> 01:02:40.130
- Okay, hold on one
second. Let me open it.

928
01:02:41.550 --> 01:02:42.510
Okay, so I got it open.

929
01:02:42.510 --> 01:02:45.202
What exactly am I looking for here?

930
01:02:45.202 --> 01:02:46.432
- [Jordan] Okay, did you by chance

931
01:02:46.432 --> 01:02:50.937
notice the word spell
down on the refrigerator?

932
01:02:50.937 --> 01:02:53.130
- No. Where is it?

933
01:02:53.130 --> 01:02:56.070
- [Jordan] At the top right
of the letters. Do you see it?

934
01:02:59.168 --> 01:03:00.598
- Okay.

935
01:03:00.598 --> 01:03:01.920
- [Jordan] So I'm assuming
you didn't do that.

936
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:03.120
- No, I didn't.

937
01:03:03.120 --> 01:03:04.561
- [Jordan] Okay, well that's good

938
01:03:04.561 --> 01:03:05.970
because this next part's
gonna blow your mind.

939
01:03:05.970 --> 01:03:08.092
So when you posted your notes on the form,

940
01:03:08.092 --> 01:03:09.643
you said you found
something in that mailbox

941
01:03:09.643 --> 01:03:11.409
that had a triangle in the back, correct?

942
01:03:11.409 --> 01:03:12.544
- Yes.

943
01:03:12.544 --> 01:03:14.367
- [Jordan] Well, look at
the map I sent you before,

944
01:03:14.367 --> 01:03:15.930
the one showing the lines drawn

945
01:03:15.930 --> 01:03:17.920
from this two spots you visited.

946
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:19.830
- Okay, I'm looking at it.

947
01:03:19.830 --> 01:03:21.180
- [Jordan] Well, if you
connect all the spots,

948
01:03:21.180 --> 01:03:22.530
you have a triangle, right?

949
01:03:24.270 --> 01:03:25.230
- All right, keep going.

950
01:03:25.230 --> 01:03:27.163
- [Jordan] Well, you can't
see it on the map I sent you,

951
01:03:27.163 --> 01:03:30.123
but if you zoom in, the line
passes over Lake Kissimmee.

952
01:03:31.058 --> 01:03:32.795
And after seeing the word island

953
01:03:32.795 --> 01:03:33.628
spelled on the refrigerator,

954
01:03:33.628 --> 01:03:35.160
I focus my attention to any islands

955
01:03:35.160 --> 01:03:36.480
that might be in the lake.

956
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:37.819
- Okay.

957
01:03:37.819 --> 01:03:38.652
- [Jordan] Just so happens that that line

958
01:03:38.652 --> 01:03:41.183
goes right through one of the
main islands of that lake.

959
01:03:43.170 --> 01:03:44.500
Would you care to guess
the name of that island?

960
01:03:45.687 --> 01:03:47.507
- What is it?

961
01:03:47.507 --> 01:03:50.720
- [Jordan] It is called Bird Island.

962
01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:52.803
Does that ring any bells?

963
01:03:56.737 --> 01:03:59.014
- "Where birds like to stay."

964
01:03:59.014 --> 01:04:00.067
- [Jordan] Exactly.

965
01:04:00.067 --> 01:04:04.053
"You can't get here by
walking, so find another way."

966
01:04:05.340 --> 01:04:07.230
It's an island.

967
01:04:07.230 --> 01:04:08.063
- Oh, my god.

968
01:04:10.080 --> 01:04:13.619
Listen, I'll call you right back, okay?

969
01:04:13.619 --> 01:04:14.497
- [Jordan] Please do.

970
01:04:14.497 --> 01:04:16.200
- Okay.
- All right.

971
01:04:16.200 --> 01:04:17.130
- Bye.
- Bye.

972
01:04:19.096 --> 01:04:21.763
(ominous music)

973
01:04:27.150 --> 01:04:27.983
Oh, my God.

974
01:04:32.089 --> 01:04:34.589
(light music)

975
01:04:47.730 --> 01:04:49.980
- [Man] If you're up
the creek with a paddle,

976
01:04:55.200 --> 01:04:56.943
then you'll have an easier time.

977
01:04:59.215 --> 01:05:01.715
(light music)

978
01:05:03.150 --> 01:05:05.910
Discovering where they are buried,

979
01:05:05.910 --> 01:05:07.923
otherwise, impossible to find.

980
01:05:13.680 --> 01:05:18.393
You can't get here by
walking, so find another way.

981
01:05:19.821 --> 01:05:22.321
(light music)

982
01:05:23.490 --> 01:05:28.143
Only so many of these nearby
where birds like to stay.

983
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.127
If you figure out the riddle,
you'll be on track to find.

984
01:05:37.910 --> 01:05:40.410
(light music)

985
01:05:41.714 --> 01:05:44.892
- [Lightfoot] My sins buried
around the concrete headstone

986
01:05:44.892 --> 01:05:46.809
which is one of a kind.

987
01:05:47.971 --> 01:05:52.964
♪ And I can't find myself ♪

988
01:05:52.964 --> 01:05:56.797
♪ And I can't find myself now ♪

989
01:06:01.860 --> 01:06:04.360
(light music)

990
01:07:04.131 --> 01:07:04.995
- [Man On The Radio] "By now,

991
01:07:04.995 --> 01:07:05.910
you know that the bodies of those

992
01:07:05.910 --> 01:07:08.910
who have patiently waited to
be found lie beneath your feet.

993
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:12.393
Put there by the evil that I am.

994
01:07:14.940 --> 01:07:16.620
Their discovery is way past due,

995
01:07:16.620 --> 01:07:18.693
but one that was made thanks to you.

996
01:07:19.830 --> 01:07:21.453
Thus, why I'm relieving you.

997
01:07:23.970 --> 01:07:28.353
However, where one game
ends, another may begin.

998
01:07:29.580 --> 01:07:31.773
Only your choice will decide if you play.

999
01:07:34.230 --> 01:07:38.757
Sincerely, Lightfoot."

1000
01:07:41.276 --> 01:07:44.276
(suspenseful music)

1001
01:08:00.504 --> 01:08:03.337
(phone vibrating)

1002
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:07.313
Hello?

1003
01:08:09.720 --> 01:08:10.980
- [Ramey] Hey, it's Ramey.

1004
01:08:10.980 --> 01:08:13.503
- Yeah, I know. How's it going man?

1005
01:08:15.120 --> 01:08:16.689
- [Ramey] I just wanted to check in,

1006
01:08:16.689 --> 01:08:19.229
see how you've been doing.

1007
01:08:19.229 --> 01:08:20.229
- I've been alright.

1008
01:08:21.120 --> 01:08:22.979
Spending time with the kids,

1009
01:08:22.979 --> 01:08:24.059
trying to figure out what I'm gonna do

1010
01:08:24.059 --> 01:08:26.760
with all this extra spare
time I didn't realize I had.

1011
01:08:27.660 --> 01:08:29.112
How you been?

1012
01:08:29.112 --> 01:08:30.750
- [Ramey] Not so good.

1013
01:08:30.750 --> 01:08:31.583
- Why is that?

1014
01:08:34.050 --> 01:08:37.000
- [Ramey] Because we just
got something in the mail.

1015
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:40.166
Something from him. It's another tape.

1016
01:08:42.483 --> 01:08:43.593
- Like the others?

1017
01:08:45.156 --> 01:08:48.032
- [Ramey] No. This one is different.

1018
01:08:48.032 --> 01:08:50.023
- Have you listened to it?

1019
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- [Ramey] Yes.
- And?

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Ramey?

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- [Ramey] He's not finished.

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(suspenseful music)